Door Bumper Clear - 177 - I Don't Know!

Episode Date: June 8, 2020

After a trio of races at Atlanta Motor Speedway, T.J. Majors, Brett Griffin and Xfinity Series race winning spotter Freddie Kraft are back together to breakdown the weekend of racing. They cover whether a 500-mile race is necessary at Atlanta, the games being played at the end of pit road to manipulate restart lineups and the lackluster racing created by this aero package at intermediate tracks. Plus, Kyle Busch made harsh comments to NASCAR on the radio during Saturday’s Truck Series race and the guys wonder why he hasn’t been fined. A new race track attendance policy may be coming and the gang explains why tracks aren’t doing enough to promote the sport. On a 10-year anniversary of a famous angry driver quote, the guys share their all-time favorite lines from mad racers. Now it’s off to Martinsville Speedway and Homestead-Miami Speedway, and the spotters explain what to expect in both events.  Want more DBC? Check out and subscribe to the new DBC YouTube channel! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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app or go to anchor.fm. to get started. That's an C-H-O-R.fm. to get started. This is Doorbox. bumper clear and I'm Jason Schultz. Our spotters are back from Atlanta where Freddie Kraft picked up

the Xfinity Series win. We'll talk about that, cover the games being played at the end of Pitt Road, debate the length of the Atlanta race, and hear which driver the guys believe should be fined. It all starts right now on DBC. I'm TJ Majors. This is Brent Ripman. Hey, me too now. This is Freddie Craft. Get ready. Be ready. Be ready.

Be ready. Be ready. Give me what you got out here. New leader. Watch out for this guy. White flag. Recognize. Hello. Clear.

Bring all. Three light. Coming to the line. Door. Bumper. Clear. Hey, everybody. I'm T.J. Majors.

Spater of the 22 cup car. And joining me is not feeling well today. I feel great. I'm just sleep deprived. And maybe I need a bloody merry. Brett Riffin's spotter for a Clint Boyer who had a ending to a good day. yesterday in Atlanta. Hot Landa.

Hot Landa. It was hot. I told y'all. What's up? Freddie Crafts, spotted for Bubba Wallace. He was hot. And I had old AJ on Saturday.

That was a good day. Derek Kraus had a good day, too, in the truck. So Saturday was a good day, Sunday. We had a decent day going and had a loose wheel and kind of ruined our day. But Saturday was pretty good. Casey, brings some excitement of this show because so far we're not having a very good intro here. And you haven't said a word since you got on this Zoom. So I don't have to because y'all will not stop talking. You're so grumpy this morning, Brett. It's kind of annoying.

You were grumpy when we told you the light was too white. Oh, I don't know what to do. I literally paid for light. That's not even working. I mean, last week it worked great. Yeah, I think it's a little bit better. You look a little bit better right now for sure than what you didn't. The solution is we actually get back in the studio and act like we can be normal around here again. Has anybody else down with that? I don't know if Casey's down with that.

I'd be down if we're still social distancing. We do have a pretty big table, so. We definitely have a table built for social distancing. As long as we just have to put Brett and Freddie next to each other, since they're with each other a lot anyway. Yeah. They don't need to social distance as much.

No. I love how we get on these airplanes and like we sit on each other's lap and then when you get off the plane they're like everybody's social distance. I'm like, who we were just on a plane. Like you can't social. I don't know if you guys know this, but you can't social distance on a plane. I thought that they were trying to social distance up on the plane too, so I guess not. We were. We were a distance on the plane pretty well.

So you were one person per row? We're at one person per plane? Almost one person per row. There might have been one row that had two or something like that, but everyone's pretty spread out. You're staggered and stuff. I mean, it's good if you can get an airplane. This is so, this whole, if you're old, if you're at risk, you need to be careful. But this, beyond that, this is so ridiculous.

And look, I know we have state guidelines we got to obey. I know NASCAR's doing everything the right way. But I'm so over this crap. Like, you go one place and it's normal. You go to the next place and it's like you're in a different country. I'm over it. I want to go back to normal. Immediately.

It's kind of funny. I'm realizing now that whether you're tired and grumpy or you're as happy as a clam, you still complain equally as much. I'm not complaining. I'm saying that this is stupid. Let's go back to normal. Immediately. Press the button.

Reset. And I'd like to shout out our lovely producer, Jason, who is also on the call. Not really our producer anymore. He's more of the Dodger, darling. Our part-time producer, Jason Chal. Thank you, Casey. I'd like to congratulate Freddie Craft on his victory. on Saturday.

His first ever Xfinity series win, Mr. Freddie Craft. Oh, wow. That's your first Xfinity win ever? Yeah. Nice. That's awesome. I lost that.

I spotted for William in that race that he lost by the Denny by a bumper and it's been driving me crazy for about four years and I didn't have one. What was that? Michigan or something? Yeah, Michigan. Yeah, it's filling in for Earl.

Earl had some kind of family problem. And had to fill in. Almost won that one. It drove me crazy. I know it drives Bubba crazy. Hopefully we can get Bubba. one before he's done. You lost to Denny Hamlin in an extended race.

And he was cheating. We lost by the length of a splitter, and he had any illegal splitter. So, I mean, I was kind of a kick in the balls. Back then, you got to keep your win when you cheated. Now you can't keep your win anymore. Yeah. How did you celebrate? Same way as always, waited for Brett to get there and went to a bar and drank as much as I possibly

good for a couple hours. You can't celebrate the night before a race. Did you guys see that Twitter picture that I put out after Freddie won that race, though? I was like, hey, Freddie won the race. Good thing he's off tomorrow, which obviously you weren't off the next day. The picture was taking at Hello Sailor, which is a restaurant here on Lake Norman, for those of you who knew, and it was a fun place who was called the Rusty Rutter. And this boat, I got a friend that works there, and this boat rolls up with these three guys on it,

and they're slamming into a boat dock, like it's a complete disaster, and he leaves these two guys passed out on this boat. and the medics had to come and tend to these people. Like, what an idiot. Was Freddie okay? I was okay. I made it to work. I mean, jeez, you got to see this picture. It looks like a movie scene.

But, yeah, no, we just went out and had a couple beers and got some food and hung out with our buddy Justice from S.H.R. Ran into my pick crew, which was a really cool part about the win on Saturday was it was also my pick crew from the 43. So, you know, and they actually. We had the, I mean, it was, couldn't play it out any better. We had a great pit stop. We were running about fifth all race. Had a great pit stop. Came out third.

And then the two leaders got caught speeding on the last pit stop. So just handed us the lead of the race and we checked out from there. But I was like, I don't know what AJ was thinking. We come off every third and that backstretch. I'm like, hey, guess what? You're leading now. Both guys in front of you and the 22, actually, who was right behind us, who was also pretty good.

They all got busted on the last stop. But 23 didn't have tires, so we weren't worried about him anymore. So the synergy around the race is weird, right? Obviously, no fans are there. Obviously, you know, we get there, we park, we walk to wherever the hell they put us. But you win the race and you cannot go inside of the racetrack. We physically, spotters are not allowed on the infield. So what's going through your mind after you win?

Are you like, I just stand here and watch this guy to do a burnout? You go to your car. Like, I mean, obviously you can't go. You can't even go take a picture with this guy. Yeah, it was like, you know, we're pretty pumped up on the radio, obviously, AJ, I didn't even realize this beforehand, but that was his first oval win and something that, I mean, I guess it's been like his number one goal in the sport. So he was going on the radio, like just screaming, thanking colleague and everybody. And then got, you know, got him around front and just said, you know, good job or whatever. So then, like you said, like he's over there doing a burnout. I just start taking my stuff off. And I was like, okay, I guess I'll go back to the hotel now. Like, it's the end of it. So, yeah, it was, it was. It was. It was. It was. definitely different, but, you know, still pretty cool at the same time. So last night, Tim Fidoa wins a race with Harvick, and it's the same thing. Like, I get to the airport, I get on the airplane. Five steps later, here's Tim Fido, and I'm like, this isn't, this isn't supposed to be this

way, man. You just won the race and you're kidding on the air. What a weird, weird deal, man, but congrats. That's cool to win your first Xfinity Series race. Always fun to win races. I mean, dude, that's what we do this for. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, winning doesn't suck. never has never will a little bit different than what it used to look like but hopefully winning is definitely fun it is different not being able to go to victory lane but at least we're back at the racetrack competing

and getting you know it seems like we're taking small steps every week to getting somewhat normal you know I don't know it's going to take time and stuff like that but hey I think it's still been a huge success for NASCAR to go through all the work they went through to get us all back at the racetrack. And so far, everything they've done has been

seamless and great. No practice. The tech's working great. They're doing the procedures before the race, I think, giving us pit road run and stuff. Everything's going really good. So, you know, great for them. Hopefully we can just keep taking small steps

at getting back to more of a normal race weekend. So, Freddie, you obviously, in Xfinity Series, have I had an opportunity to spot for a lot of fast cars on a regular basis, right? So last year you were full-time Johnny Davis. This year you had to pick, do a part-time car with AJ Amundinger or do another full-time deal where you probably aren't going to win. How do you go about making the decision of shifting from that car that couldn't win

where you can have a job and work every week and get paid every week versus working for a deal where you know you're only going to race eight, ten times a year? Yeah, I mean, just something we talked about because you're kind of one brought this deal to me. And, you know, it's just what we talked about. Winning is everything, man. You want to win races. And not that I love Johnny Davis.

I love Brian Berry, the GM over there. Them guys treat you better than most car owners in the sport will. I mean, you get a text from them every race saying, thanks for taking care of my race car, keeping it clean. And that's after a 23rd place finish. You know what I mean? They don't, they know what they're there for. They appreciate it.

Obviously, the higher you go up on a team, the pay scales a little bit better also. And that's just what they can afford. It's not that they don't appreciate the spotter, but they just can't afford to have the same budget as a team like colleague. So, you know, it kind of, between the money and the ability to win races, I'd rather do 10 races and have a shot at winning every 10, all of them, than hoping to run 20th for the whole season. You know what I mean?

It's just, in my brand, it was a no-brainer. Obviously, I paid off, won a race. I think we're going to probably win some more here. So it really was. It was a no-brainer for me, but that was just a thought process going into. You know, you're there to win races. You want to win races. You know, it helps your notoriety.

It helps you, you know, you can say next time you're looking for a gig, yeah, you know, I got extended to win on my resume now. Fred is confident now. I mean, I've always been confident. I won a lot of races back in the day, but, you know, it's been a struggle the last few years. I mean, we won a bunch of truck races and won one last year at Talladega with Spencer Boyd. But, you know, when you grow up short tracks, winning, races every week and then you get to this level and you're you're hoping to run 20th it it wears on you

it wears on you a lot you know and and if you go through that for three or four years you know it starts to start to make this stuff not fun so that's what made moments like Saturday a lot better for me there's a handful of guys that can win races and I mean I'm talking about guys that are sitting in the seat so it's important as spotters to try to get with those handful of guys I mean you want it's no fun look man I was having a blast yesterday spotty when we were leading the race when we got back there running seventh and eighth. I was like, this is the worst, most boring race I've ever seen in my life. Give me off the roof.

I got to do something different. I'm going crazy up here. I'm bored to death. Like, it's crazy how the same race leading is fun. And running seventh, you're like, oh, I need a five-hour energy. I'm bored of death back here. You should have came back there with me and Freddie. Jesus.

What the hell are you doing back there by me? I finished behind both you guys because I couldn't stop blowing freaking tires. You passed me on the last lap. Well, that's because your guy was passing out. Man, he is fine, by the way. I see a bunch of posts. I think I saw one on Reddit last night asking if he was going to run Martinsville because he's so beat up yesterday.

He's fine. Just dehydrated. Not the first time. Won't be the last, probably. It's important to eat good kids, drink your water, and have a workout regiment. Extremely important in racing. Yeah. Maybe some goldfish in there, too.

The goldfish ain't the problem. It's the damn Coca-Cola and Sprite, I think. I mean, he just hates water. And he's finally gotten into it a little bit the last couple of years. But he's had a lot, you know, he's had a lot going on. He's put a lot on his shoulders last week. And he also, I've seen this happen before when he's super mad. We got, they called NASCAR took a race away from us, basically, at Iowa one day.

And, you know, he got out of the car fuming mad or a truck. It was a truck race. And the same thing happened. Eyes rolled back in his head and went down. And I think it's just that. You know, he gets himself so angry. The high, you know, the blood pressure gets up and the adrenaline's crashing at the same time. And that's, I mean, on top of being super hot and super dehydrated yesterday,

I'm sure some of that played as a part of the two where he's had a super emotional week and it's coming down off of that after the race is over. It just didn't mix well. But he's fine. I talked to him last night. He's all good, ready to go for Martinsville Wednesday. All right. Well, before we get started, let's hear more about our presenting sponsor, Offerpad.

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First topic, spot on, spot off, drivers jockeying for position at the end of pit road for specific restart lanes. How about Freddie? Spot off just for the jockeying part at the end of pit road. You know, you don't,

this is how cars get tore up. The one time to look ridiculous was was I think it was the 19 and the four I think Kyle came off of the lead, and neither one of them wanted to be second, so they basically slowed to a stop at the end of Pitt Road trying to let one beat the other, and the line of traffic was coming behind them. Could have been big. But obviously, it's going to lead to the choose rule, the choose cone rule again.

Questions. I saw it all day yesterday. I seen Joey said he said he wants the cone. Brad said he wants single file restarts. So obviously it's a pretty polarizing topic. I think, I mean, I'm for the choose cone. I have nothing against it. Obviously, I don't think it's going to have the desired effect that people.

people think. You're not going to get a guy. We're not going to a choose cone. You lost your mind. We're not going to a choose cone. Can I talk? No, you can't talk. There's no way we do that. So I just don't think it's going to have the desired effect of what they think. You know what I mean? People think that you're going to have a guy lined up that's starting 12 that's going to line up on the inside because everybody likes the top. It's not going to happen. At the most, the guy's going to move up a row, maybe. A lot of times these guys are just going to double up. You know, you see a place like Bristol. The guy in second might take the top on a restart.

start behind the leader, but everybody else is going to go to the bottom and line up normal. I still like the idea what the world outlaws do with, you know, the leaders, wherever the leader lines up in, the odd number cars line up in that line. And that won't help jockey in the position at the end of Pitt Road, but I think it's a more fair way to do. And I don't think the third, the fourth place car should have an advantage over the second and third place cars. So, I don't know.

I just, I feel like there's got to be something done because you can't put them guys to disadvantage when they're running in a higher position, but I don't know that the choose cone is the rule. T.J. Go ahead, Brett, since you already started. Well, we already know his stance on this. My stance on this is a- Two weeks ago, he's going to choose cone.

Now you're not going to know. My stance on this is if you're a driver, spot on because you're trying to put yourself in the best position for you and your team. Spot off to NASCAR for allowing this circus to play out this way. You should be, it should be a rule that you have to maintain close to our at pit road speed

as you exit. Then we don't have these guys playing these games. We almost tore up some cars in the front of the field because to Freddy's point, guys were slamming on brakes trying to manipulate where they were going to line up. It's very, very easy. We have all the telemetry in the world now that we can see. I've got my crew chief lap 20 telling me how deep Joy LaGano is driving in the corner with the throttle because we can see all that. You know when these guys are in the gas. You know when they're on the break. Make a freaking rule. Make these guys stop playing these games. This is not on the drivers because the drivers are trying to do what's best for them and their team. Of all the rules that we have in the sport, and we have two down many,

it's very easy to go in here, make a rule and make these guys stop playing these games. That's my opinion. TJ? I mean, it's just part of it. It's not the, we've been doing it for years and years now. Four years probably? How long? I would say more than that, if you knew of the preferred lane and you could count it right.

I'd say I mean especially where I really think it's going to matter if we do go to like a like a choose cone and we get to like tailladega or something. We're not going to a choose cone. I'm just telling you a problem with it is when we get to a place like Talladega

you're going to try to line, you're going to try to manipulate starts even more there or you know what I mean? Or like Freddie says, I don't know if there's a really good way around it. I do agree with the fourth place guy having a better line than the second place. guy but I mean maybe he should have slowed down more I don't know um just part of it I think uh I

think everybody we you don't have it happen that often where they slam on their brakes that bad but a couple times every once in a lot you get guys that'll there's two or three guys that are really bad at it and um I would say those are two of them and there's one more guy that'll do it almost every week um Denny Hamlet's worse at it Denny Hamlet doesn't more than anybody I think Chase does it a lot. Chase does it a lot. I think Chase does it a lot. And it's going to take, you know what?

It's going to take a time where they get hit in the back and have to come in and fix their bumper that's hanging off or something for that for them to not do it. You know, is it worth getting hit from behind? That's what it's going to take. And it's going to suck for the guy that's behind who's innocent in the deal just trying to get off pit road. you know so but i don't know i don't know if there's a perfect restart answer um i mean it's i would i would like to see you know maybe the all-star race would be a good time to experiment with something like that maybe the all-star race is a good time to try the inside even's odds or or even the even the cone deal for the for the all-star race if you put harvick and true x at the rear yesterday for doing

that they would not do it again and either would anybody else all that i'll do it. day because we saw who did it and Freddy's point they even did it after the camera which makes it it look even dumber and more dangerous. But they know who's on it when it's blatant looking. We know who's doing this looking with a naked eye. Surely people looking at technology can prove they did it. Yeah. So you're going to penalize the guy that cracks it and loses two, three a mile an hour the last, you know, quarter of pit road or are you going to penalize the guy that hits the brake? That's not what they're doing. They're doing stuff way more far beyond that. They're slamming all breaks. But you have to have a lot. But you have to have a lot.

line and it has to be pretty clear what the line is. It's a freaking Judge McCall. We saw you do it. You're going to the back. You could have made the call yesterday. TJ, you weren't even spotting them cars. You could have looked and said,

this guy, this guy, this guy did this on purpose. You're out. I wouldn't need a computer. You just need common sense. You are a computer, Brett. You're just a wealth of knowledge. My hard drives.

Hey, I got to tell you, it's going to be bad this week again. You know, it's another place where we're going to be bad. One of the worst. It's not going to bother me. It's not going to bother me.

I'll roll off wherever. If you're on the inside, you're on the inside. If you get the outside, you're right, I'll roll out. No matter what happens. Like, we're, you know, we're always running 15th to 20th, and I'll give it some kind of half-ass attempt to count, like, if we're going to be decent. I'd be like, ah, are you? You're good right there.

Oh, never mind. Three guys in front of you got speeding penalties. Okay, never mind. Every time I nail it, it's like, oh, yeah, I nailed it. It's like, oh, yeah, nailed it. We're going to be a fourth at Bristol and then be like, oh, yeah, the 11, too fast. Oh, now we're third. Great. Awesome.

Yeah, it's like that every time. We almost just, that's why we don't really do it that much because it's like, I don't even know if it's 50-50. It's kind of productive a lot of times. I agree with you. Yeah, it can bite you just as easy as it can help you. Spot on, spot off, 500 mile length race at Atlanta. T.J.

Spot on for the race length. Spot off for the start time, I guess. I would have liked to see it start. a little earlier, but I know it was a one-day show, so probably, I don't know. You know, I think they're getting really good with the schedule stuff, and I think a lot of it can be condensed a little bit more, which I think they'll work on. But I don't know, I like Atlanta. A hot slick Atlanta is the best Atlanta we will ever see.

Yeah. I mean, I'm spot off on the 500 miles. I've said this before on here. You know, I think that they had these long races to test the machines and test the drivers. And obviously yesterday, some of the drivers fell out. But, I mean, we had two races that were great on Saturday that if you added them together still didn't add up to how long we race on Sunday. So, I don't know, the start, it's like TJ said, the start time, well, you know, things they don't take into account. You know, these guys, a lot of guys travel from out of state, you know, where you've got, what, four or five spotters that come in.

Now that three o'clock start time, that's an extra day they got to spend on the road because they can't catch a flight. They choose to live out of state. Okay. But you still can have a damn 12 o'clock race and they can go home that night. You know, now this is three o'clock start. We're done at whatever, six, seven o'clock. So you want to cater to five guys at this spot? That's not just five guys.

There's a lot of people that travel commercially. But, you know, I'm just saying, like, if, I don't know, there's a lot of things that go into it. But that, I've always hated that three o'clock start, and I probably always will. Spot off is too long. Unfortunately, this package still is not fun to race at a mile and a half track. I'm sure T.J. is going to try to come in here and kiss somebody's ass

and get the brown on his nose. But that package, once we, had run seven or eight laps. Nobody passed anybody. Sorry. Spot off. 500 miles is too long. We had an opportunity here to put on a race.

This should be a two and a half, three hours show. Man, 500 miles. How long did that race take? Four hours? It's about four hours. It felt like I was watching a thousand miles at Atlanta. Like, man, give me a three hour product. Put it on TV.

Let's get traction. Let's grow the sport. Oh, that was brutal yesterday. I don't mind. I really don't mind a lot. longer race. I do think if you shorten it, you got to shorten, you got to limit tires at some point to make some strategy calls in there. Did you watch it, Casey? Yes, I did. The whole thing. Very, very, very long. The whole thing. You watched the whole thing. I think I stepped away a

little bit to eat dinner. That's a no. What? No, I watched most of it. How many naps did you take? Honestly, I couldn't take a nap. I wish I could. But I was on my phone. a lot of it. Just because, like, you know, there were times where it just, the same thing over and over. It was too long. It was way too long. I do think that. I do think the package needs to be adjusted for the mile and a halfs now.

We should almost run the short track package at the mile and a halfs. Yeah. Cut the spoiler down and run a give a lot of horsepower. Let them go. Oh, my God. T.J. finally said something about this package. This is the truth.

I think T.J. had a good point about tire limit. You know, these guys can just come in and fire. tire tire. I think they had 13 sets of tires yesterday. Yeah. You can run 25 laps and then basically get a new set of tires. Yeah. So, I mean, obviously, I was a pretty big fan of the Xfinity race on Saturday, but there was strategy involved. You know, the 22

car was probably the fastest car on the racetrack, but didn't win the race because he ran out of tires at the end. He stopped on the competition caution and put a set on a 20 when nobody else did, and then we had a caution with 30 to go, and he had to put scuffs on, so his race is over at that point. So I think a tire

limit would be great, you know, to make a little play, you know, strategy play and change things up a little bit. I will say from a fan's perspective, though, watching, I watched all three races, and in my opinion, the truck and the externity races blew the cup race out of the water this weekend, just to be honest.

Hands down. Hands down. So. Spot on to that comment. Finally. Agree on something. But agreed. All right. Johnny Sother, disqualified from the Atlanta truck race

for altering tires. Brett, spot on and spot off. Freddie told me yesterday at lunch, we went to Taco Mac to have lunch. We had a tremendous chicken Philly right before the race. And then we both bolted for the restroom as we arrived on property at Atlanta Motor Speedway and we were questioning our lunch decision.

But nonetheless, Freddie told me, so all I have for a source on this, Casey, is Freddie, which in and of itself is a problem. That's scary. But I was told that he, failed the dunk test. Do you know what the dunk test is, Casey? I do not.

It's when they put his tire on a pedestal and everybody throws a baseball at it. If you hit the little button, the tire falls into the water like you do at the state fair. The fuck duck test is that they take this tire and they submerge it into water and they're looking to see if air is coming out of this tire. Because if your tire is slowly leaking air, it gives you a tremendous advantage because your tire, because your tire doesn't blow up. The radius of your tire doesn't get bigger. It doesn't wear like a cool tire would wear, right? Or like the air pressure builds in this thing.

So if he felt a dunk test because a crew guy stabbed his tire to make him, they call it bleeding the tires. There's all kind of ways to bleed the tire. You either pop a little bitty hole in the tire or you bleed the valve stem on the tire. But if he was truly cheating by doing this, which we thought an Xfinity series winner a few years ago, who only has one win to his credit to today. We thought he was bleeding tires back then.

If he's bleeding tires, I would suspend him for a month because that guy is a cheater. I don't like cheaters. Casey, you know anything about bleeding tires? How many times Chad talk about that? Oh, my gosh. That's all they do. It depends on the time of year.

I'm pretty sure dirt cars can run bleeders on there. Yeah, they can run. Chad's got them. like on his phone I think he can adjust the water out there racing I said I think he's got it on his phone there's an app for that he can control the bleeder valve from his phone

Yeah I don't yeah there's There's something called bleeders and We talk about you don't do in NASCAR You don't mess with the fuel Remember Michael Walshup did that And you don't mess with the tires Which means you don't soak them you don't bleed them Ah big time anyway

And you don't mess with the tongue stand either According to Duny Yeah I think the I think the telling part of this was that NASCAR came out and said that it was not a situation where somebody rated on the 13. So that means it was obviously a situation where somebody ratted on the 13 and knew they were doing this because they randomly took the 17th place truck and disqualified it from 17th place. So they had some kind of idea this was going on whether they knew. And then his teammate win the race?

Yeah, Enfinger won the race, yeah. Wonder why they didn't duck his tires? So according to him, they do it all the time. From like one, I didn't think that that was true. I thought that was just like a special, I listened to Brad Moran's little press conference there, teleconference, what we want to call it? And he says this happens all the time where they take tires and dunk them. I had no idea that was the case. But, yeah, obviously something was going on there.

Didn't have a huge advantage for him in the race. He wasn't very good. But maybe that's why they started trying to do something late. But cock snagged, like Brett said. it should be a pretty stiff penalty. They did announce that this is it. They just disqualified him in this race and there was no further penalties.

So it's surprising to me. But obviously he got caught and he got busted. To me, you'd look at, okay, it failed the dunk test, but how did it fail the dump test? Was it not seated correctly on the wheel? That might be something different than, you know, okay, well, there's these little bubbles coming from this hole right here. Wonder how that hole got there.

You know, and this isn't anything new. This is an old short track trick that people do. you know most of the time it's short tracks that this happens we get a red flag at martinsville you look out there and you see somebody sitting there with four flat tires you're like oh huh something's going on there you know and that has happened before i feel i just say i feel like that happened maybe vickers or somebody like in the 55 it was uh it was uh it definitely happened to kacy meers one

time with with uh i think it was jimmy i don't know though but i remember uh yeah they were sitting there for flight time. Oh, you know, you're laughing about it. I don't know. I don't remember. I don't remember this last week. New drinking game for door bumper clear. Every time T.J. says, I don't know.

Take a shot. You do know. It might have been, it might have been Vickers. I don't remember who it was. So, yeah, it's mostly a short track thing. Yeah. It's like a short track trick. I don't know, mile and a half, I don't think,

because you run short track pressures on the left side, so low already. If you look at it, like, even when we roll off pit road you look at they look like they got flat tires already rolling off pit road um but yeah i don't this this isn't a new trick so this is something that's been around for a long time what i like freddie oh boy that could be a lot of things brett above everything else i like the word easy give me the easiest way to do something and i'm happy well then let me tell you about the easiest way to buy or sell a home it's with offerpad dot com offer pad is revolutionizing the home buying and selling

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Suck Tower after being For speeding twice in the drug race Oh, Freddie Wasn't there a tweet that posted his pit road speeds? I don't know I'm pretty sure Steve O'Donnell tweeted out a picture of the pit road speeds and there was two red blocks on Kyle's

So For one, what in the hell is up with Kyle Bush? This guy has been, he must have been, he must have been pit practicing with Denny Hamlin for the last month because he's, I swear to God, he's gotten a speeding penalty every race, truck, Xfinity, Cup, whatever it is. It seems like he's getting the penalty for every race. But, I mean, God, you can't let, I mean, how stupid does NASCAR look not doing anything to this guy after he says this to them?

Like, how, I mean, just make yourself look weak. Like, he's, it almost looks like he can say whatever the hell he wants. TJ? I mean, spot off. You, you committed the panel. You know, it happens every time we have a, you know, there's, every time there's pit stop, somebody speeds and they get the same penalty, you know, it's don't speed. Yeah, spot off. You committed, you did it.

So you go to the back. I think, I think that at that point in time, he's a competitor. I think if he had a podcast like we have and he wants to get on there and scream and have a rant, at that point he kind of is a media member. But at that point in time, he's a competitor. And he's saying F you to the sanctioning body on a platform where a lot of people can hear it and it becomes public knowledge. I would find the ever-living out of his little rich ass. And yeah, that'd be it. He wouldn't do that again.

You look at Kevin Harvick, right? Jason is one of the craziest most radical guys ever. Kevin Harvick stayed in trouble. And eventually Kevin Harvick realized, man, this is getting really. expensive. I'm going to stop. And Kevin Harvick now stays completely out of the way on controversial stuff. He is a well

behaved race car driver. And Kyle Busch should be a well-behaved race car driver. He's being smart. I would bust his ass over this. Bubba called them... I put a picture in the group me thing if you want to look at it. Bubba called the NASCAR officials Muppets

after a race. Puppets. It was Muppets. And he put the picture of the damn Muppets and got fined. and had to sit in the control tower for the race the next day. This guy says, you, you suck tower and nothing happens.

So, I mean, maybe something's going to happen tomorrow, tomorrow's penalty day. Maybe something's going to come out. But, I mean, one guy calls you a Muppet,

and you get mad and find him, and this guy says this, and nothing so far. So, I mean, I don't know, a little consistency would be nice. So I sent the pitcher.

There is like six, five, trucks on here that all have penalties. And they're all, it's kind of cool the picture because it blocks out in red who speeds. You can, it's real easy to see. And it's just, I mean, it's plain as day. You spayed. Don't speed.

Brett's opening a beer. That was not a beer I just opened, by the way. No, it's dog food. It's dog food, I swear. Look, I'm sure you guys on here. It always smells horrible. Here, buddy, get that way, me, I'm going to vomit. Yeah, I was going to say, what are you eating that?

I'm a vomit. You hungry? Angry. Spot on, spot off. NASCAR reportedly adding a minimum attendance clause of 70% to track agreements. T.J. Spot on. To me, they're pushing tracks to make sure they sell tickets and to make the tickets affordable or they could take the races somewhere else. But, I mean, that's just what I would think that this means is just trying to get people there,

trying to make the tracks do the, you know, the All Star Race, to me, should be free every year. The All Star Race should be free. But it led into the 600. Literally, literally free. Yeah, to me, it would lead into, normally it led into the 600, but if you came for the All Star, maybe, if you did come to the Allsaur Race, maybe you get a 10% coupon or something too. They're coming back for the 600. They never said 10% coupon and free now. What are we getting?

No, I mean, the All Star Race, the Allsar Race is free, but if you come to the Allsaur Race, you get a voucher for a 10% off for buying tickets to the 600. You know what I mean? So you're coming back. Because if you come to the racetrack, you're probably going to buy a drink. You're probably going to buy a hot dog. You're probably going to, you know, get a Philly Cheesesteak or something in there. Be careful. But, you know, if you come to the racetrack, your kid's going to want a hat. You're going to want, you know, a turkey leg, something. So get people there. Have you ever ate a turkey leg?

I have not. They look like dinosaur legs when I see people hold them, though. They're gigantic. I've never seen turkeys that big. I've never ate one either I always wanted to just carry one around because you kind of like a badass just carrying that big one I look like Fred Flintstone You look like a straight up caveman

carrying that thing around Like you should have a club in one hand And turkey leg in the other hand And they're gigantic There's no like right way of eating it too Like every time you eat it You look like a mess Yeah you look like you're a savage

You're like I mean it's gigantic I've got a beard and I'm gonna tell you What when you got a beard To eat you make a mess Who knew that you got food? Anyway, back to your thing. Casey, are we seriously going to say that you have to have 70% attendance? Like, could you imagine right now in a freaking pandemic saying, okay, the stands are open.

Let's go back to the races. Everybody tickets are for sale. We got 200,000 seats. We got to sell 140,000 of them or we're going to get in trouble. I don't see them doing it this year. I think if they're trying to get at, like going to the tracks where, you know, we're not going to have a race to have a race. race. Like as they evaluate the 2021 schedule, they're not going to go to a track where they never sell out. They never sell. They struggle with ticket sales. Like different markets are going to

struggle just because they're not necessarily NASCAR markets. I'll tell you what, we could have took all the cars yesterday and put them in the stands on how to sell out. There were 27,000 cars on property at Atlanta Motor Speedway. When I drove up, Freddie kept talking about all these cars everywhere. And I didn't really know what he was getting at when I rolled up on the track. Holy cow at the cars. Let me ask you guys this. This is kind of for Casey and Brett. Like how easily can this be fudged? I mean, if can you just start giving away blocks of tickets? So that was going to be my question is they do offer a lot of comp tickets to things like schools. Like they do a lot of, you know, donations to charities and even sponsors comp tickets. So I don't know what if it includes all of that

because I will tell you, you know, for truck and Xfinity too, like, I'm assuming. assuming this has to be just cut, right? Like, there's no way that it would be. I don't think it'll be implemented for a while, like, a little while still, because it's going to take some time to get that people. Yeah. But what this really comes down to is the revenue model. The track is making, let's just say, 85% of its money off a TV.

So if no fans show up, the track is still a profit center. And why is it that way? Well, guess who owns a lot of tracks? NASCAR does, right? So when you look at the track partners, it's NASCAR, it's SMI, and then there's a couple independents that are still out there. And when you look at the team model, we only can show up to race competitively with sponsorship. The TV money doesn't, let me rephrase that, some TV money is funneled to the teams,

but it's like 25% and then it's split 40 ways. So it ends up not being a lot of money. And you look at the way the tracks make all their money, Guess what? It's off a freaking TV. So the track promoter doesn't live or die off of selling tickets like Humphie Wheeler used to do back in the day, like Eddie Gossage used to do back in the day. So I'm not saying they're not working hard, but man, I am literally at Charlotte Motor Speedway, at Twin Peaks.

You know, want to watch a race on TV, and they don't even have it on, and it's less than a mile from there to the racetrack. Like when we go to places and you walk in and they're going, what are you guys here for? Why are we working NASCAR? all the races in town. If bars and restaurants don't know that we're coming, then that means the track promoter did a terrible job in his community, buying radio ads, buying billboards. Everybody's depending on social because it's, quote, free.

You know, you got to hire a kid out of college and let him go tweet and do Instagrams, you know, guys like Jason Schultz, which is awesome because it's a real thing. But we're not doing enough to promote our sport from an advertising perspective in these markets. I mean, you tell me this weekend, which this weekend isn't fair because fans can't come. But when we can't go back racing, you three take pictures of billboards that says the race is in town. Tell me how many you see.

Tell me how many times you hear it on the radio. We're not doing enough to advertise our sport. Yeah, I mean, just to your point about, you know, the owners not needing the fans, did you see those numbers from the Nashville deal, which the Nashville deal is way longer than I expected? I didn't realize we were going to be locking contracts in four years. But, I mean, the revenue sharing was ridiculous. If I got, I don't have the numbers in front of me. But I think it was like $7 or $8 million for the sanctioning fees.

And then the revenue sharing was going to be $10, $11 million more than that. You know, so that's where they're making their money that, you know, ticket sales is gravy to them. But obviously, I mean, I knew that they were making money. I did not realize that they were making double, you know. Did you see where they're getting a half a million dollar increase every year? Not only knew they're making money from the junk. but every year they're getting $400,500,000 more revenue when we don't know, A, how many people are going to show up there, B, what the TV audience is going to look like.

Like, man, give me a freaking spotter deal where I can get that kind of pay increase every year. Yeah, I don't think everything's so based on TV nowadays, in my opinion, which is great. But I don't feel like we do enough concerts and stuff like after the race, you know, like So now you want to be in a concert business, not a racing business. I'm just saying like, I'm just saying like events, events to bring more than one event there. You know what I mean like. More of an experience. Yeah, like something you can, you know, a little bit shorter race followed by where were we leaving?

It was indie. We were leaving indie and there was tons of people there already, but walking in because of the concert after the race. You remember that? Yeah, it's after an exfinally race. They'll have like Florida Georgia Line or something. either. Yeah, but I mean, why not, why not have something like that where, okay, fans, we're going to do Victory Lane on the front stretch as soon as we move that, we're going to set

up the stage as the driver's doing his interview once we get that stage set up. And, you know, we're going to open the fence. We're going to put a barricade, you know, stage or whatever so you can't cross the deal there. And we're going to open it up and you guys come down and enjoy a concert afterwards, too, for a couple hours. You know, just, I don't know, just promoters, there's a lot of really good promoters out there. You know, I think it'd be cool if they had that.

Yeah, just they got a lot of great ideas and it'd be cool to see what they can come up with. I think three things sell tickets. I think number one, TJ's right, the experience, right? And that's what NASCAR has always been. Or been built around three, four day weekends, the party, the family, all kinds about just, man, being at the racetrack, right? It's fun. But we're going to, we're not going to see that anymore, I don't think, post-pandemic. I think we're going to see condensed schedules like we've been seeing, right?

So that's a big thing. Number two, what you put on the track. But here's the most important part. Number three, to personalities. I showed up as a kid to watch David Pearson, to watch Dale Earnhardt. And we have to have big personalities. We have to have people gravitate to our sport because of the drivers and the people. We got to have the people in place.

Let's see what's coming up this week on the Dale Jr. Download. This week on the Dale Jr. Download. It's late model drama and a lot of people. other things Dale Jr. wants to talk about in the world of racing. Listen to the Dale Jr. download on all major podcasting platforms and watch the TV show on NBC Sports Network. Time to hit the gas and take our Xfinity speed from the track to the studio. Let's jump into our weekly Xfinity Fast Lane segment where each person will have 10 seconds to answer six questions. Brett, that's 10. Got it? Ten seconds.

Question number one. After a third lackluster intermediate track race since racing returned, do you think NASCAR should begin considering an intermediate arrow package change for 2021? Brett. I want more horsepower. I don't know why the OEMs aren't cited with me on this thing. I know it's cheaper to build a 500 horsepower motor, but I want more horsepower. Thousand horsepower. How'd I do, T.J.

T. I think so. I think we need something to make these guys drive these cars a little harder. Just make them more of a handful. I know they got their hands full now moving around. You're fighting air most time. Let's make them handle. You know, let's make them not handle good.

Right. I'm in the minority. I didn't think yesterday's race was that bad as far as, I just thought it was too long. But slipping and sliding tire wear, you've seen like True X-Rone Harvick down at the end there. Just obviously need a package that will make them. The tires wear out. the car is harder to drive, but I didn't think yesterday's race was that bad. You drank more than I thought you did Saturday night.

Your turn is done. After Martinsville, the next nine races will take place at tracks one and a half miles in length and longer. Should NASCAR have built more variety into an updated 2020 schedule? Freddie. You would probably like to see more diversity, but I think they're kind of in a box. They didn't really have an option. here. You know what I mean? It's kind of fluid situation and how to take what state you can go to to whatever times you can go to them just the way it laid out this year. Brett.

We keep saying we want more short tracks and we just added a mile and a half to the next year's schedule. Man, NASCAR's in a box right now. We can't be critical of where we're racing and when we're racing and how many times we're racing. You know, we're seeing doubleheaders in Xfinity series at places like Miami, places like Kentucky. We got to make races up, people. TJ? Yeah, I think their hands were tied for this year. And especially with this pandemic, you had to go to events that were going to be closed and accessible. But I think the door's open next year.

So let's see what happens. Ten years ago this weekend, Joey Logano famously said Kevin Harvick's wife wears the fire suit in the family and tells him what to do after being turned by Harvick at Pocono. What's your all-time favorite angry driver quote? T.J. Ah, man, it's really hard to beat about 30 of Kurt Bush's quotes. He's got so many good ones. It's really, I think. None of them you can say on this show. I think the crew chief, I think when the crew chief asking crazy to look at the right side damage

when Kurt's on the backstretch at loud in the one time. And Kurt just key, you know, crew chief goes, okay, crazy, how's the damage? He's like, uh, I can't see it. the right side from here right now, and the Kurt just keys up and he's like, I'm on the back straightaway, Einstein. There's a lot of good ones from Kurt. Freddie.

I don't know that. It wasn't angry, obviously, but I think the best quote ever was old Tony in that press conference with Carl telling him he'd wreck his mom to win the championship. That's going to be one of my favorite quotes forever. Brett. Kurt was the only guy to ever say,

he's got to be the only athlete in American history. And I realize, us and thank God this is an adult podcast. We don't have a lot of kids listening. He literally said the words, premature ejaculation one time in an interview. Who even uses that word in normal conversation, much less than interview.

Like, what an idiot? What is he thinking? I think if you want to not, one of the ones that made me laugh that really wasn't an angry, angry comment was when it was one of those years better ones when Greg Ives asked him if the track bar, when they put the adjusters in there,

if the track bar was held, helping him and just out of nowhere it does you know he goes i don't know let me ask it keys up and goes track bar are you helping me and that was i think i quit spotting for a laughing i have because i was laughing we all know what the best interview was in in nascar history it was the guy that said you can kiss my do funny in the middle of his interview like that guy had the best question that wasn't escar though i don't care it's still the best but that was yeah it's modified Jack Hewitt. No, Sprint cars.

Dude, Google Jack Hewitt. That is the funniest interview ever. If you haven't seen it, you're missing out. That's the best mad driver quote in history. He is mad. Real man. He's definitely mad. AJ Foyt's got some good ones too.

He didn't hold back. He slapped the shit out of somebody in Victory Lane. Who was that? I think it was like Ari Londike or somebody? It was. It was, yeah. And AJ's fingers looked like there about 10 inches in diameter.

You know what I mean? I don't want to piss that guy off. Last year's fall Martinsville race was described as one of the worst I've ever seen by fall Martinsville standards by Jeff Gluck. How do you expect Wednesday night's race to be different given the new short track arrow package? Brett. Oh, man, I hope a lot better.

You know, obviously we're used to Martinsville being a, a place where we see bump and banging tie wear lead changes. And this is one of the races where Keselowski, I think, went out and led, essentially the whole race. So we have to have a good short track product. We need tippers flaring. And man, we've seen a lot of good racing since we've come back to the racetrack. And this is a huge opportunity to do that again this weekend.

Did you not hear the ding? No. I didn't hear the ding either. I didn't hear it. I haven't heard it. Can you see this? I heard it. Does that show up on your screen?

All right, who's next? You are. T.J. You know, we called for changes last year. They made some changes. I noticed it at Bristol. Guys were fighting loose on entry. If you get close to somebody,

you can kind of see him catch the car a little bit. I don't know if you're going to have quite that effect at Martinsville, but with no practice and everything, I expect it to be a pretty good race. And a random draw, ish. I've seen a guy get loose in a three at Bristol, last lap or so. It's like, like, five to go.

I've seen him get loose. I also seen a guy get wrecked into three. obviously you're hoping the package helps i think it will be interesting to see how the track is at night cooler temperatures obviously um so we'll see but hopefully this package helps i think it should homes in miami will host a race that's not the season finale for the first time since 2001 on sunday will the race play out any differently now that it's not the race for the championship fredi yeah i think the biggest difference is the four chase cars won't be the fastest cars on the property for some reason that seemed to work out like that every year when we ran the homestead but uh race will be

that's weird how that works um race will be the same we'll be ripping the top by the end of it probably uh but you know it just hope be nice to open the field up to everybody this time Brett I don't understand this question it's still a race at homestead it's it's still a race like the fastest cars are going to go up there and they're going to run up front and we're going to rip the top and it's homestead it doesn't matter if it's the last race or not it's same Racetrack. T.J. It's a multi-grove racetrack with tire wear.

I'll take it any day of the week. Gonna miss Kyle Larson this week. Off the wall question. A West Virginia woman faked her disappearance by pretending she plummeted off an overlook to keep her out of having to go to prison. What's your go-to excuse when trying to get out of doing something you don't want to do? T.J. Shoot, man.

I mean, that sounds like a pretty good one. Here you go. Take a drink because I don't know. I don't have excuses, man. You shouldn't need excuses. Babysitting. Babysitting. I am not telling you what my greatest excuse is because then I wouldn't have

be able to use it anymore. So get lost. I'm not telling you. I'm sure your wife knows. I'm sure everybody knows. I have a terrible stomach. I have irritable bowel syndrome. So any time that I have to have an excuse, I just say I got a .

So if you run into bread in the streets and he tells you he's got a poop. What's yours, Casey? I don't know. I don't really have one. Is your stomach cup set? No. You can say you got to pee. I'm tired.

That's my excuse. I'm tired. Can you drink caffeine when you're pregnant? I can only have a cup a day. A cup of caffeine? That sounds like a lot. A cup of coffee a day. I mean, sorry.

So I only have coffee. I have to drink 20 million gallons. What are you putting your coffee? Two Splendos and a little bit of cream. Splendos are bad for you, right? Yeah, that's why she does it. I know, but I gotta give a little, take a little, can only do so much.

I need to function. But my excuse is that I'm tired all the time. So you don't, you're trying to do low carbs on your pregnancy thing? Is that why you're doing Splendin instead of sugar? No, it just. Or you're already sweet enough, you don't need the sugar. Splenda is healthier than regular sugar, I think. I don't know.

We, I got, I just heard it's good. No, I'm not. Casey did say, I don't know. Can't say that, Casey. Take a drink. So now you think a man-made substance is better than something that comes from nature. I don't know where it came from. I just know that a lot of people use it.

So I'm a follower. I'm not a leader. So you're a follower? I'm a follower. It's fine. I'm a follower. Yep, that's me. that was fast. We're already

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I knew everybody listened to this one. This first question is from J. McCann. main 1M with no practice are the setups between teammates that much different or does a small difference create that much difference in tireware between this is for really between the four and the 14 so how about you brett Kevin had a lot different setup I actually was talking with some guys on the plane about it I don't get involved in that aspect of the sport as a spotter but you certainly ask questions after the race I mean I was the only

car potentially in the field having as much right rear issues as we did. You know, I heard True X blistered a right rear tire on one of his longer runs. But the four car setup was different. Was our setup fast? Hell yeah, man. We ran top three in stage one. We let a lot of laps. Then we obviously started having issues.

And man, we didn't know if we were going to have issues on lap 35 or lap 50. So it was really tough to manage. But yes, with no practice, no qualifying, these guys can go in there. And look, if you're Kevin Harvick, obviously he's good at Atlanta, but he can take chances. He's already won a race. If you're Joy Legano, you can step out of the box and try some new things because what you're working toward at this point, your season is really only two things.

You won't playoff points, which you get by winning stages and winning races, and you want to go out there and try to win the race and run good in the chase or in the playoff now. We don't have a chase anymore. But if you're Joy Logano, you can go take chances, man. So, yeah, setups are certainly different amongst teammates. I'm surprised you didn't say that the teammates are all the same because the only guys are teammates are the ones wearing the same shirt as you.

So obviously, the 14. Well, that's this loose term, these idiots made up about our sport, our alliance partner, Kevin Harvick. Let me rephrase it, call him that. Yeah, I don't, every driver drives different too, though. You can take Kevin Harvick setup and put it in Clint's car. If it's not Clint's driving style, it's not going to work that well. You know, I think the only one where you could probably really get close on and be similar is a plate race.

But other than that, you can't take a certain driver because he knows the little tricks that he's doing. He knows the field that he's looking for already for that setup. So you can't really just take a setup and guarantee that it's going to work. It might be, you know, Clint might be able to run top five with Kevin's setup, but Kevin's going to win with it. You know what I mean? So Clint has to adjust it to Clint's field to what he wants. So even teammates. I mean, everybody, every driver is different.

They're not all the same. My favorite part is just a person in the sport is when you hear crew chief's engineers talking to drivers and the driver will say, is my car like Joy Luganos? And the crew chief engine says, well, it's the same except for the, you know, this, this, this and this. Just stop right there. Okay, brainiac. That's not the same. Yeah.

Oh, that guy led 400. certain something laps. We're going to go back with his setup, but we're going to make it a little bit better. Yeah. Yeah. So we're going to make it better. Watch this. Hold my beer. Oh, by the way, he's checked out leading.

We're 12. That's, I mean, you know as well that every crew chief has their own ideas and likes to do the certain things right away, which is, I mean, that's what makes the sport great, though. Everyone has their own ideas. Next question is from Cody Allison underscore 14 and refers to the teammates wrecking each other that happened yesterday. If you were a car owner, what direction would you give your drivers when racing each other? If they wrecked each other, how would you handle it?

And does it change the way you feel if it's for the lead versus 420th? This should be a question for the Dell Jr. download. This is a better question for Dale Jr. I agree. Like, go ask Dale Jr. what he did when his two cars wrecked each other. Robert Yates said one thing. Robert Yates had one thing that he always told us. I want you guys to race each other hard. I just don't want you to screw each other over.

And Dale Jarrett, who was one of the nicest people in the sporties, he mentored me, helped me a lot. We owned a business together for years. He would always tell Elliot at the end of the race, hey, you know, he would have a spotter. Bob Jeffrey come tell me to tell Elliot, tell Elliot to do what he's got to do for himself. Don't worry about me.

Don't screw himself trying to help me. This just goes to prove, you know, that when you're out there, you're not teammates. You're not riding in the same car. You're riding in two separate cars racing one another. But man, if I'm Joe Gibbs, like yesterday, it looked like it was a Joe Gibbs show plus Kevin Harvick. The Joe Gibbs show plus Clinton Boyer at one point. Like if I'm Joe Gibbs, I'm thinking sitting on my couch, I don't know if he's allowed to be at a racetrack yet, even though he owns a bunch of cars.

Like, do whatever you got to do to get these guys out of here. You know what I mean? That way I know for sure one of my cars is going to win. But, I mean, I don't know what Freddie and T.J. think about this comment that I'm about to make. But it seems like a lot of the great race car drivers are selfish people. and only care about themselves when they're in the race car. I'm not saying they're like that out of the race car,

but like I don't know that you can worry about other people and they go out there and kick their tails. Like I don't, I like the approach that Ross Chastain has said, I bring my friends with me to the racetrack, which is insinuating. He's not trying to make friends out there. Carl Edwards was that way.

Like I think Elliot, um, if he has one regret in racing, Elliot Sadler, it's that he's been retired for a couple years and, and, and his phone is. isn't ringing off the hook from guys he raced against.

And his texts aren't coming in off the hook against guys he raced against. I bet if he had a do-over, because we've talked about this a little bit, he'd have probably raced those guys a little bit harder. Because if you worry about what people think about you, you probably can't go out there and leave it all on the track. And I think that's what makes a nice car special. So now you're just saying what I said that you got Elliot all mad at me for a couple years ago. That's what you got. Remember?

Did you forget about that? Take a drink. You want to be a good teammate, but you can't, you have to look out for yourself. You're racing. You're paid to look out for yourself. You're paid to win races. But you race hard, but at the end of the day, if a situation comes up where you don't want to destroy each other, you never want to take each other out.

That's when it gets bad. But I have zero issues with racing hard. But you also want to look at things like you don't want to race each other so hard for the lead that third place blows by both you and wins the race. That's when you need to be smarter about situations like that. But look, man, Elliot Sather, I've raced a handful. He's gotten really good at our racing stuff. He's one of the funniest and nicest guys you'll come across in the racing industry.

If you know Elliot and Elliot's there, you're going to laugh. Elliot's a guaranteed funny time. Brett knows it. Brett knows him better than anybody here. Elliot is a hilarious guy, man. And he's very good on the racetrack too. He was, you know, Elliot's won a lot of, like, plate races and stuff because Elliot knows how to do it. But you have to look out for yourself at some plate.

You have to put yourself in position to win them races. And certain guys, you know, you know how to do that. You don't, but you want to be a good teammate as well. If you can help, that's why, you know, if you're leading the race and you've got a couple guys of your teammates in the top lane, you want to try to help the top lane as much as you can to get them up to you. Because you want the company to succeed as well. And if you can finish one, two, three, three, three, four, you want to try to make that happen. I think a guy that sticks out a lot with this and just watching from, you know, outer side perspective,

I'm sure Brett's going to be able to chime in on this is Kevin Harvick. Like, Kevin Harvick races like he's a lone wolf out there. You know what I mean? I've seen numerous times he could put Clinton in a bad spot or one of the other Stewart Hotscars. Yeah. I mean, we watched, Clint was up side by side with us in Charlotte a couple weeks ago. And I thought, you know, Harvick had a little bit of run on us. And I thought he was going to just push Clint by us.

And then, you know, he would go by us probably the next lap. Well, he now he split us three wide and went by both of us in one shot. And I kind of surprised me. But like you said, it's that killer instinct, man. You're out there to win races. You're not out there to help somebody else win a race. So, I mean, you've got to do what you've got to do. And when the time's right, you know, if you're lined up behind a teammate on a restart,

obviously you're going to push the hell out of them. You know, you're going to help when you can. But first and foremost, you're going to try to win. your stuff the race. I wish Pops was on here right now, Clint's dad, because I like get Pops roundup. You know, he would be, T.J., you think we should get him on this show? I think any show he goes on would be pretty funny. Jason would have to have the beep button ready for just.

Casey, do you know Clint's dad? Oh, my God. What? Do you know Clint's dad, Pops? No, I don't think so. Oh, he's the fun. He's one of my favorite humans on Earth. Yeah.

Well, we need to get Clint and. dad on the show. He's one of the funniest people to every between two feet. He makes me laugh my ass off. Like, he's the best. He is pretty funny. Well, I mean, Brett,

Brett always gets to work with the funniest people there is. Thank goodness. Elliot's hilarious. Clint, obviously. Clint's probably, if you're going to, Clint's, if you're going to go, if you're going to go party with somebody,

Clint's the guy, man, for sure. Yeah. If pops is there, it's just, it's just a cherry on top, because you can get pops rolling about something. It's his remarks, man. Oh, my God. No, he's the best.

I was exchanging some messages yesterday after the race with Cole Pern, who made fun of something that Larry McReynolds said during the podcast or during the broadcast. I think Cole Pern would be fun on his show, too, because if we get him on here unfiltered, like he could bring a lot. All right. Well, make it happen. If he's got so much to say, if he's got so much to say, why don't they have him come in and do a broadcast? Well, I think everybody listening to tweet Cole Pern and say, hey, come do door bumper clear

because he probably thinks for a small podcast. He probably doesn't realize how big we are, you know? Millions, millions of people listen. Millions. Even in Canada, Cole. Worldwide. Worldwide. Oh, all right, TJ, I haven't asked BBC question for you.

Are you spotting for Dale this weekend? I don't know. I don't know. Oh, my God, we've got a drink two. We're already out of booze. That's two drinks in a row right there. Signs say yes. So I should be there.

Is he going to bunch of you like old times? He better not, because I'll just turn my radio off. There ain't no consequences now. Which one is he running? Fire me. Is he running Saturday or Sunday? Saturday. So pending no travel hiccups there.

I should be there. But I don't know. No, I'm just kidding. I should be there. There's another drink. Thanks. I'm just trying to make everybody have a good night. Finish so strong. So social at this point. Anything we want to rant about as we had some Martinsville and Homestead?

I have a rant. Yes. So at Atlanta, you have a lot of lap cars most of the time because the field gets so spread out. If you have a couple long runs, there's 15 lap cars between, you know, know, maybe realistically about eight to 12 lap cars between, you know, the top six, seven cars, maybe probably more than that, really. But you're trying to, you know, to help these guys out coming to pit road. You always have the cars that are lap down that just don't catch up when pit road's open,

and they're 10 car lengths off the guy in front of you. And it's aggravating because, you know, you always get out there and, oh, he's talking. He's talking. Well, I had a guy lay back, and you're trying. You're supposed to be caught up, first of all. Was it the 15 by chance? No, I don't know what you're talking about. Well, the 15s who got me.

Exactly what you're talking about. The 15 was not closed up. It might have been the same car. But I go down there, I'm like, hey, you know, can you try to have your driver catch up under caution? We're trying to pit with the cars running the same lap as, you know, I would catch my guy up for you if you were pitting. You know, I'm not going to try to cost you 10 car lanes coming to pit road. and I'm not the driver probably isn't fully aware of what's going on that's where the spotter can come in and help the hey catch up even pull onto the outside of the guy in fronty a little bit so

they can get caught up you know that's what a lot of the the the all like a lot of the guys that know what they're doing try to help each other out coming to pit road you're not you're not racing that guy so help him out um so I go down there I'm like hey can you just try to you know have your guy catch up because we're losing a lot of ground right here and I just basically get the get, you know, get the heck out of here look like, you know, go, you know, get at it. Like not even, yeah, no, we should have caught up more. Hey, I'll talk to him next time. Nothing.

It was a, I don't even want to be here. You know, this sucks. I'm not doing anything. Get out of here. Type response to a, to that. And if you don't want to help your driver or help in that situation, then, you know, why, why be up there? If you're not, you're there to help. So help.

You know, it's nothing to get mad over. It's just, hey, he was talking or, yeah, I didn't see it. No problem. Just try to help him next time. It's not that I'm mad at you for doing. I'm just trying, you know, just reminding you to help your driver if you can in that situation. But when you get a new spotter or old spotter. It's guy's been around for a while.

But you get on there and you just get like, you don't get any type of, if you're so angry to be out there doing that, and I realize that car, you know, riding around with them cars there in that situation probably aren't the most fun. but you know there's all your day is going to come when you're in a position where you'd like a little bit of help like that and then to have somebody just not not care if you don't care then don't do it it's harder to spot for a slow car very hard than it is a fast car 100 and there's a reason for that the car isn't as good and the drivers look that guy in a double zero I don't even know what track he's at he has no idea there's a corner coming he has no idea what lane he's going to try to run he is I'm telling you, like Michael Walshop's commercial, I'm at the wrong track. This dude don't even know he's at a track, right? But to your point, if you learn how to be a really good spotter for a bad car

when you get an opportunity like Freddie got. Freddy's really good at spotting for bad cars. He did it for years. Look at him. We put him with a good car. What did he do? His freaking second or third race out with this guy, he goes and wins the freaking race. So yes, T.J., you're right.

These guys need to, you've got to stay, like Clint's a freaking veteran. He's won a races. He's an Xfinity Series champion. I have to stay on his butt about small things, and that's my job. So if you're a spotter, I don't care if you're doing a bad car for $200 a week, or if you're doing a good car making six figures a year, do your job. Yeah, I mean, that's, talk about me, you know, me doing some of the Johnny Davis stuff. Obviously, we find ourselves lapsed down every race.

And the pit road's open, stay closed up, stay up, you know, stay up, stay up, closed up. You know, that means just pull up the top of the racetrack and stay closed up to the car in front of you. And I say at every restart, you know, Garrett and even Bubba last year, you know, we lapsed down a bunch. You know, that's every reason, every reason, every cost of flag, pit roads open, stay closed up. You know, it's just

a reminder to them every time. But to your point about the double zero, he got warned again yesterday about, you know, I don't even know if it was minimum speed or just being in the way. You know, I heard, first time I've ever heard them say, like, hey, Spotter, let your driver know what the hell's going on. Like, so I didn't see

what's going on, but obviously... Oh, they said that yesterday? Oh, yeah, right on the radio. They were telling him to remind him to stay with minimum speed. Yeah, so they were... Good thing. Good thing they don't have Landing Castle driving that thing anymore. That wouldn't have went well.

Jeez. Money, money don't pay the... I don't know. I'm not... I saw, you know, it's funny. I saw Noah Gregson. I think he tweeted something about, you know, I'm a free agent next year and all this stuff.

And I'm like, let me tell you what it's like to be a real free agent. I'm a free agent. next year too. And my dad don't have a real estate company with a gazillion dollars coming into me. So some of these kids, man, they need a gut check. You know, Noah's obviously a talented race car driver

or not want to race. But a guy like that double zero, he comes in and buys a ride, sends land in the castle packing, which is fine. And then he's torn up over a million dollars worth of equipment in the first few races. Hey, that might have been a bad business decision for you guys. Did you see the guy that tweeted you and said

he... Probably not. I guess. Probably He saw a chance he's blocked. It was, he said something about the driver of that car where their company is and he said he got behind one of their trucks on the road and the thing was doing like 30-mile an hour the whole way. That's funny. It was pretty good. So we've been tearing this guy apart and I'll give him props.

I don't remember hearing Joey Gates' name at all yesterday. So I'll give him credit. He made it through a whole race without. Yeah, all the five. Spinning out. All the five, man. all those cards start with a five great job at Atlanta. I got to give the seven credit yesterday, him and the double zero were the two that I just couldn't

figure out what they were doing. Well, the double zero, you don't know where he's going. The seven is always there on exit when you need that extra car lane? Who is the seven? Who was that yesterday? I think I was blicky. Who? Yep.

I don't even know. Oh, that guy was hot after the race, too. I saw. Maybe that's what was wrong with him. He's too hot. Yeah. Yeah, the seven's always there. Outside, you know, your guys like, oh, it's a seven, I'm coming up.

Nope, still there. Still there. Still there. Stop. Yeah. Like, quit. No, that seven needed that car length. But whatever, it's his race too.

We all deal with it. Same for everybody. DBC picks. Casey's mad. Look at her. She's doing emails. No, I'm not. I was looking up the script to see who goes first.

Hey, who won this week? Freddie. Bye. picking Kevin Harvick, and now it's six to three to one with Brett leading over Freddie and T.J. in last. My guy was doomed from the beginning. Pass-through penalty on the start of the race. I mean, really? Who do I want to screw this week?

Pick Clint's, we don't have to listen to Brett. Yep, that's what I'm doing. I'm picking Clint Boyer. We've got to pick twice, don't we? Yeah. Boyer. Miami after. Okay.

I'm picking Clint. Right. Who you got? At Martinsville? I'm in the red, right? Yes. Your good guys are gone. You might as well take Quinn Huff.

I have a guy left by the name of Denny Hamlin. Guess who I'm taking to Martinsville? TJ's favorite, Denny Hamlin. That's going to come back to haunt you. Freddie? Huh. I don't know who the hell I want to pick. Sound like T.J.

That's a drink. I'm going to take guy won with here twice. I'll take old Bubble Wallace. All right. If you win with that pick, if you win with that pick, I'll kiss everybody's ass at Hardsville. Bend over, baby. Light them up.

All right. Now, Miami picks. TJ. Man, I got a roll with, this is good, this is going to sound really crazy, man, but I'm going with Jimmy Johnson. Who, Jimmy Jam, I am going to go with a two-time Xfinity Series champion who is a rookie in the NASCAR Cup Series, my guy who likes to ride the rim, Tyler the Ram Reddick. That's a good one.

I like that pick. I was going to pick him, but I was his new nickname, the Ram. Does that sound good? It's kind of sad because we're going to Miami and you guys, I can't pick Larson, and Larson has always picked at this race. Larson always knocks the right side off his car. He rarely finishes good at Miami.

He runs good down there. Yeah. But he's running a world of outlaws. So we'll catch him in 2021. You know why I was going to be against Tyler there? Because I know Tyler likes to hit the fence there, and that old exfinity body snaps out a lot better than the cup body. I know.

Them exfinity bodies are tough, man. That cut body hit and it's done. Tyler did good. He was actually very good in beginning of the ranks yesterday. He was noticeably good again, so good for Tyler. Freddie, who you got? Take a drink. I'll take.

I'll take Bowman. Bowman is a solid pick. Bowman wasn't as good yesterday as I thought he would be either. I thought he'd be better at Atlanta. Well, good luck over the next two races. Casey, what we need this week is good forecast for Wednesday because it is 50 to 60% chance of rain on Wednesday. We don't need a hiccup in the schedule.

We need to go to Martinsville, be able to run a cool race there. It's a night race, obviously, being that it's a midweek race. I love midweek races. Love them. But we need good weather. I think this is a golden opportunity for NASCAR on Wednesday nights right here. Short track at Martinsville under the lights. We need good weather for it for sure.

This could be a home. this could be a home run short track new package hopefully the guys got to got to drive it a little bit you know hopefully there's some bumping and banging and uh you know we we really you know we really get the audience as viewing locked in to nascar on it because it's going to be a golden opportunity perfect well as always can you be any more bored Casey what and you guys are just talking so monotone right now at the end tired oh We talk like you look. I just came up with a new nickname for Tyler Reddick.

You should be excited. What was it? She's thrilled. Look at her. Oh, my gosh. Oh, God. That's my big dog. That means she's got a...

We got to let her out. Let out the dog, booty. Cocky. Does that dog have got a bad sonny too? This dog's bless her heart, man. She's 14. She's seen her better day, man. She's got cataracts.

She's got ciss. She's got something called Cush disease, which means she's hungry all the time like me. Yeah. Man, she's seen her brighter day. She's deaf because she got a hold of some chewing gum. Man, I don't know if you guys know this, but there's something in a chewing gum called like Zizetal,

and I might have just made that word up. That might not be accurate. But it's some really weird spelled word with a bunch of X, Y, and Zs in it. And if a dog gets a hold of it, it shuts their liver down. So she got a hold of this gum, man. I had to take her to the emergency room,

and I spent about a gazillion dollars, and the stuff they had to give her to keep her alive and keep her liver functioning, it made her death. Man, bless her heart, love her to death. Cocky Jewel, that's her name. She's named after the mascot for the Gamecox. Even though she's a girl, her name's cocky. I think Kylo was born with something like that

because he hasn't listened since day one. All right, thank you guys for listening. Tune in this week, ma'am, Margeville, we need you guys. We need good ratings, good weather, and let's go racing again. I love all these racing. Yeah, have a great week, guys. Thanks as always for listening. Yeah, thanks for joining us. And hopefully it's a great race.

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