Door Bumper Clear - 180 - I Shift My Pants!

Episode Date: June 29, 2020

T.J. Majors, Brett Griffin and Freddie Kraft have returned to the studio after a packed weekend of racing at Pocono Raceway. Along with co-host Casey Boat and producer Jason Schultz, they cover Ryan Blaney wrecking Kyle Busch, Bubba Wallace’s near miss avoiding Ryan Preece’s spin and Clint Bowyer and Alex Bowman’s door-banging sprint to the finish. Sunday’s Xfinity Series race produced heated tempers and multiple intentional wrecks. The guys breakdown Justin Haley’s aggressive driving penalty and Myatt Snider turning Noah Gragson, triggering a wreck in front of the entire field. A crash-filled Truck Series race included a scary impact for one driver and the gang explains who it was and what happened. Rick Hendrick drove 115 mph in a boat with Denny Hamlin and Jeff Gordon, would our spotters go along for the ride too? They answer. NASCAR returns to Indianapolis this weekend and stock cars will use the road course for the very first time. The guys explain what to expect and if it’s in the Cup Series’ future too. Plus, Casey gets more parenting advice and find out which spotter painted his toenails for good luck.  Want more DBC? Check out and subscribe to the new DBC YouTube channel! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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My kids love strawberries. Welcome to the door bumper clear. I'm T.J. Majors, and we're back from a busy weekend of racing of Pocono. Today we'll cover Ryan Blaney wrecking Kyle Busch, Bubba Wallace getting airtime, avoiding a wreck, and Boyer in Bowman's battle to the finish. Here we go. I'm Tjay Majors. This is Frank Rittman. Hey, me too now.

This is Freddie Cratch. Get ready. Be ready. Be ready. Be ready. Give me what you got here. New leader. I'll watch out for this guy.

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Hey, everybody. I'm T.J. Majors. Spired of the 22 cup car. I had the 99 truck this weekend for the first time in a long time. And a full house plus a half. Yo, what's up? Brett Griffin is in the studio. He's not the half.

I'm not the half. He might be the half. I feel like a half. Homeboy Freddy Crafts back with us, too. Yeah, what's up? Freddie Crafts, spotted for Bubba Wallace. Kind of a slow week for me, not much going on last week. So it's just a nice quiet week, get ready to go racing.

And then our 1.5 guest over here. Yeah. Casey, not quite in the studio, but she's sitting next to me, it seems like. We tried to get her in the door, but we couldn't. Okay, guys, that is rude. I'm not that large right now yet. But, yes, I am from afar at home eating cereal. still stuck dealing with you guys.

Can't get away from it. So hi. You're lucky. Your lighting's better right now. It's not bad. I'm sitting in my kitchen, actually. Yeah, you did a good job. Why do you have a ladder in your kitchen?

Or is that a shelf? Okay, my bad. It's like a blanket. No, it's a ladder. It's a blanket thing that holds blankets. I just don't have any blankets on there. It's a blanket thing that holds blankets. In my kitchen, because we use blankets in my kitchen.

I'm in my... What do you call them? Pigs in a blanket? What do people do with all these blankets they get when they have babies? What are these? Do you get blankets when you have babies? Oh, when you have babies, bro. You get blankets from the air.

But don't get any ideas. They're all way too small to cover you. Well, if you get enough of them, if I get 30 or 40 of them. They're all just big enough to cover the baby. They're going to sew them together. I'm a comforter. My grandmother made a really cool deal. like, like t-shirt.

She did a t-shirt. Like all my racing t-shirts. She, like, cut them in half and sewed them together. So I have a really cool, like, racing blanket. Like, obviously, you're not going to use it, but it's, like, hung up on one of my chairs or something like that. You normally get a lot. Yeah, you get a lot. Madeline, or Estella still has some in her closet that are just stacked up folded that we never, never used.

But you do have a lot of them. You're going to have so many blankets, like, laying on the outside of the crib. You're going to have nothing to do with them. So, well, actually, you can just put them on your ladder. My right. I probably will. My registry is filled with blankets right now. Blankets, bottles, passies. Are you doing anything? Are you going to do passies or no passies for your baby? Yes, passies. Why? Just be careful. Make them have buck teeth. I'm assuming. Yeah. Stop crying.

You don't know, you don't like, you don't know if they're going to take it or not. They might not even use it. No, my kids never did passies. I also never played an uh-oh game. My pet peeve as a parent is when I would go out to eat. You would watch a kid drop something on the floor and all the adults at the table go, uh-oh, and they pick it up and they hand it back to the kid. Now the kid throws it even further. I'm like, you're playing fetch with humans, you dumb asses. So literally at my house, it was a no, you were not allowed to say the word uh-oh around my kid. Because you're training this kid to play fetch with you.

I'm not playing fetch with a six-month-old kid. You know damn well he picked it up. I promise you. And handed it back. No, I never said, uh-oh, and handed it back. They threw it. It was gone. You're throwing it by one time.

You don't know if the baby's going to take the pacifier or not just so you know. One of mine did and one of mine didn't. So you don't ever really know. If it doesn't, it's not a big deal. It's really not. It's actually easier. I think that a great episode would be parenting classes from you three. So maybe we can make a segment out of it.

Oh, really? I got great parenting. Chad is the only one I need to talk to. Yeah, we need to talk to Chad. Go ahead and send him in next time. After this meeting. That's who our guest is going to be. Yeah.

Why don't you get up and let Chad sit down. We'll have a conversation next week. Chad has great parenting plans. He's going away midget racing for the last half of the years. What is up with him and this midget fetish you keep talking about? Oh, my God. Chad sounds like he's a very smart planner. I'll be there for the birth,

and I'm going to be racing for the next month and a half. Well, the first year for dudes is kind of a wash. I mean, it's hard to get into all that, man. All they do is cry and poop and pee and spit up. I'm going to tell you what, man. When they spit up, I'm out. That's some nasty shit. Yeah, it's not.

But it stinks. Ah, it's so bad. And then if you, oh, it's really bad. There's nothing like that smell. You're going to see projectile vomiting for the first time in person, Casey, and it's disgusting. And it is going to land on you at times. Freddy's over here turn red. Like, man, I don't know if I want to make a baby or not.

I just feel like, I projectile vomit enough for everybody at my house. I don't think we need to add anybody else to that. I think there's all about it. I think I fed malon, like some sweet potato or something out of them. You know, them little cups they feed them from. while I fed her that one time and I was playing with her and I was laying back on the couch

and I was holding her above my head you know playing. I have my eyes closed the next day I'm like that tastes like sweet potatoes I don't do well with that stuff man it was bad I'm like what do you do man

it's like something stinks I'm out well that it wasn't like that was just sweet potatoes thankfully but yeah I'll tell you the diaper one some other time yeah I'm good

yeah it's my diaper I only got one good diaper one we were at a fish camp in Boone, North Carolina. And Joe... It's starting that on. Joeby was in a high chair, man. And we're all sitting there eating fried fish. Uh-oh.

And the waitress had walked behind Jovie. And I was like, well, damn, this lady has spilled honey mustard all over my kid. So I'm looking at Jovey, and I look at Claudia, and I'm like, I can't believe this. Where did this honey mustard come from? Oh, no. It wasn't honey mustard. No. Straight up her back.

Gravity does not work in these situations. No, it doesn't. It does. So I pick her up with both arms. I ain't about to hold this kid close to me because there, she's literally everywhere. So I'm walking through the restaurant. I'm walking through the restaurant where my arms fully extended.

Dude, I roll straight into the women's bathroom. Claude's like, where are you going? I was like, I ain't doing this. Uh-uh. I ain't got it in me. Dude, when they start teasing. When they start teething, their stomachs tear up like you have never imagined in your life. He's right, though.

It's weird. Whenever they go, it doesn't go down. It goes up the back. Like, it's got arms and it climbs. It's really weird. I was changing Malin one time on the change table, and I'm like, you layer down, you look at it. Oh, my gosh, you know, so you go down to get some wipes in a diaper or whatever? Power washer.

Pretty much. From the time, I had have been better with the garden hose here. I reached down to get a diaper and some wipes, and I look up, and she had reached down and grabbed the diaper and went, I look up there, and there's all over the wall. Her hair looked like it was spiked with gel in it and stuff, but it was not, I was like, oh, my God. Yeah.

Fish camps don't have honey mustard. I learned that the hard way. Yeah. They don't even have it. That's awful. It's very bad. That was straight to the bathtub. It was bad.

The kid comes out purple. That's rule number one. Nobody ever told me that. It looks like Barney. It looks like a miniature Barney has been born. And, yeah, if they end up having to do a C-section thingy, there's a lot of smoke that rolls off your belly. I wasn't aware of that.

They didn't know that was going to happen. Smoke? Yeah, yeah, there's smoke involved. Wait, what? What are you talking about? If you end up having to have a C-section, they need fire? There's smoke involved.

They start a small fire. I don't think I want to know anything of that. When you try to cut the cord, that damn thing will get away from you. Watch it. Like, make sure, make sure you can. Got a good hold on it? grip on it. Yeah, there's a lot of things.

I just wasn't prepared for anything. I walked in there, I think honestly, truly just ignorant about what was go down. And then all hell broke loose. Yeah. I don't want to tell you. Didn't they hand me the baby? Like the baby comes out, Jovey comes out. She's 30 seconds old.

And I'm like, man, look at this cute little baby. They hand it to me. I'm like, what am I going to do with this thing? And they got this sort of round sucker thing. Yeah, they're sucking all the fluids out and stuff. Yeah. And this lady literally walks me out. of the delivery room into the other room and she says, all right, I'll be back a minute.

I said, you can't leave me in here by myself with this kid. She said, yo, it's going to be fine. Just take this thing and suck this mucous out and do this to it. I was like, I don't know how to operate on people. It doesn't make the baby happy when you're doing that either. I can't do this. This is too much. I can't wait to see her like take that sucker thing and when they're kind of cold or something

sucking that snod out. The sleepless nights. Not for Chad. He's going to be racing. The best thing that can happen to a man is a fertile woman to breastfeed is you don't have to wake up. Yeah. You just sleep.

Yeah, I didn't. You've told me that multiple times. Yeah, if you can... It will sound like a dairy farm if they have to pump, though. Yeah. Well, Chad planned ahead either way, so... Did you get a pump? No, I still have...

You don't know what's going on, Casey. You better... You better study. You need to go ahead and get a pump, like, right now. Yeah. If you don't want to get up every night, if you want Chad to help, you need to go ahead and get a pump right now. Sorry, Chad.

I need to start, like, doing classes and... Class. No class prepares you for what you're getting ready to go through. You open your refrigerator to look at a dairy farm. Yeah, it is. So, Pocono. Yeah, anyways. Jason, you want to make some babies?

Pocono. It's not about Pocono. Pocono. Weird. I feel like it was, I don't know if we've ever talked about this on the show or not, but around 3 o'clock, it starts raining, believe it or not. I don't know. Both days, a little delay on. Saturday and a little longer delay on Sunday.

But just like other tracks that get really hot in the afternoon. It's weird how that works. I feel like we haven't never talked about that, but I feel like we should have brought it up maybe. My God. Weren't we somewhere like last week or the week before that? Yes, yes. Miami.

The week before. We're seven out of ten, right? Yeah. Are we really? I mean, honestly, like delayed starts. Right now is horrible. Yeah, it's not going well. We got, I'll tell you what, though, as much as we can complain about it, we got

looking. Lucky yesterday. Super lucky. I thought we were getting soaked right there at 6 o'clock. There was a decent-sized storm heading right for the racetrack, and it had lightning and red and everything. And it somehow miraculously... Just disappeared. Disipated.

Like, as we got a little bit... We were getting ready. One to go, and I'm like, it's raining, but I'm like, ha. That was like blue in that movie. Just throw the green. Just throw the green. We were back far enough. Don't you feel like these tracks?

This is going to be far-fetched. That's odd. Yeah. Don't you feel like these tracks, especially these big tracks, should be required to set up some sort of lighting system in the corner and let our cars actually have real headlights for the straightaways. Because we can't keep doing this as a sport. We can't keep not racing because of weather.

I don't know if we have an oval rain tire and tell you guys, hey, good luck. Don't Rick. Right? We got to do something. I think we should definitely have some kind of rain tire, especially a place like Pocono or something. that race runs. I mean, obviously the track doesn't drive like a road course,

but the race runs like a road course, you know, when you back up your race and pit before they end of the stage and stuff because you can't lose a lap. But, you know, for sure, I think we should have some kind of... I mean, I'd hate to see a rain tire at Bristol. That wouldn't work out very well. But a place like Pocono, I think you could do it. I just...

I know, like, I think it'd be so hard. You wouldn't see any passing at all. I don't know. You wouldn't see any. With the roocher tail of these cars, well, you might throw. I mean, only when there's wrecks. Yeah.

Yeah, like, I think it'd be fun to race in the rain, but realistically, if you think, like, the rooster tail on how many cars we got, how close together that we have. If we're going to be dumb enough to keep starting these races, at 4 o'clock in the afternoon at places with no lights to take two and a half hours to dry, we got to have a plan B we talked about last week. We don't have a way to hedge our bet.

We got to hedge it with something. I thought it was a really good call to run the truck race at 9.30 that morning. Like, that was almost perfect. It wouldn't cost that much money to just light the corners up. Slide them up. We got to do something. We saw what they make in these TV revenues.

I mean, they've got the cash on hand to spend. If you have a cup race, if you have a cup race, you're required to have lights. If I were to build a racetrack, whether I wanted night race or not, I would plan it to have lights to start with. You have to. You have to. You're not stuck in such a box. Look at Martinsville for our longest time. Now we got all night to run there.

I definitely think. I mean, you're looking at Sunday. You know, you're sitting there and it's sunny out or, you know, there's like a sunshy, shower. There's a rainbow over turn one. And then you're looking and going, if it rains, now it's 4 o'clock, 435 o'clock, and you're going, if it rains one more time, we're going home. Even though there's no, we have no, even though there's how many more hours in the day, you're going home, it's range at 4 o'clock. Michigan is going to be a struggle. Yeah, Michigan, this week, you know, if we get, this week's race starts at 4 o'clock. If there is

one rain shower at 3 o'clock, you're going to be in trouble for getting that race in. We're starting these races when they used to end. I'll tell you what they did, what they did smart on Sunday also was, and I think they were trying to do it on Saturday, was get out there. The rain's coming. We see the rain coming. Get out there and get a lap in. Get the race started. Because what that does is takes away the, we need to start the race with the expectation

of finishing it. You know, now you've started the race with the expectation of finishing it. You've got a delay. Now you can run, we can restart and run until dark, which I thought we were, I was surprised we got the whole racing yesterday. Me too. We ran green, obviously, to the end there, which helped. But we were doing a math.

I'm like, man, we've got like, like, 60 minutes to run 80 laps. I don't think this is going to work, you know. But it's really, if they can obviously get a lap in, that's why you kind of see that. And people go, what the hell you're starting for because the rain's coming? That's why they're doing it. You know, they get these races started so that then they can restart without having to have the expectation of fans. They could start, though. There was no reason they shouldn't start.

Yeah, no, yeah. It's not like they're changing anything, but I'm glad they got it underway, though. What do you think about from, I mean, obviously there weren't any fans there, but what you think about running two cup races on back-to-to-back days as far as, as far as us. I mean, the more racing, the better for me, I don't mind working if I'm there. I mean, I thought it was good. I thought it was good for the, we knocked two races out.

Lauda, and no race, I mean, to me, nobody dominated each one. We had different guys leading both races, different strategies playing out the whole time. I thought it was good. I think you, I mean, I don't know, man, but I mean, from just a fan perspective, I thought it would be, obviously the fans weren't there, but I think it would have been phenomenal, because you could have bought one infield camping spot, and you're there for four or five races, man. You watch a race, eat, watch another one.

We keep talking about our season is too long, and I keep hearing it's going to be equally as long next year. But when you look at us pulling that off at Pocono, like I look at a Michigan, I look at a Dover. Obviously Dover's one race next year, but I look at some of those places, and I'm like, man, there's no reason we shouldn't be doing this. Yeah, I think so.

You get a full weekend of racing for people to go to the racetracking camp when you do that. I think it's a great idea. I saw a lot of people on social media talking about how great Sunday was, you know, having the three races, you get up in the morning, you're eating your breakfast, you're watching the truck race, then you're, you know, you hang out, you're watching the Xfinity race. Then obviously, you know, you're hanging out and probably hopefully drunk by the time the

cup race rolls off. It reminds me a Memorial Day. You wake up in the morning, you watch your F1. Grab lunch, you watch the NDy 500. Dinner time is to Coke 600. Like, I felt like we did our own little triple right there. And, I mean, hey, like we said, we got lucky on the weather, but what a great day to be a race fan.

I don't know if it was good or not, but that. I'm telling you that 930 truck race Sunday morning, I thought was awesome. Dude, I woke up and turned on sports. Woke up and turned on sports. My only issue, I mean, I love the truck race. I love the length of the truck race, but there is no way we should have stage breaks in that race. It's a 60 lap race. If you want to, okay, I understand you kind of kind of keep things uniform.

If you want to have stage points, just give them out at lap 15. Stay green. Top 10 is the top 10 at lap 15 and keep digging because you take pretty much all. a lot of the strategy away from these races having 15. And then we have all these wrecks. I think the first, by the time, I had a rookie driver, Derek Krauss, and by the time we were through the second stage, I think he had made maybe 10 laps of competitive racing in 30 laps of, you know,

being under green or yellow. So, I mean, like, there's just too short. I think you just run the race. Maybe you just have a stage break at the end of the second one, just where you run it to the end of the first one. Or just one. You know, if you want to have a stage break, have one maybe. But I think you could still award points at lap 15 without stopping,

just award points of your top 10. Then if you want to stop at 30, which is halfway, give everybody a chance to reset or whatever. But, I mean, just it seemed like it was, you know, even when you stop, even if it was not a bunch of cautions, you're going to have a stage break at 15. Okay. So now we're going to run our two or three laps like we always do,

you know, wait for a lap to open pit road. So now you're coming to green with 10 to go in the second stage. So it's just, I don't know, it just. There's no reason for the Xfinity series or truck series to have two stages anywhere, two stage break. It should be a halftime in those races, and that's it. We should never stop. twice for those races. They're too short.

Yeah. The guys don't get a chance to pit under green. They get the cup. They're the deficit. They haven't had to do that. I don't like it. I never liked it. And I like I like the short. I think the short race, you know, the 60 lap race was good. You know, I think that's great. Thank goodness it wasn't more than 60. Yeah. I didn't have time. I, you know, only had 10 hours for the cup race. You want to make it more interesting? Make a smaller fuel cell. Yeah. I'll tell you. And one thing I don't understand, and I guess was just, I don't know how this merge as well, but, you know, you've got ARCA and trucks. So now, In my mind, ARCA is your single A, truck is your AA,

obviously, it's a NACA's the AA. Why is the ARCA race 20 laps longer than the truck race? The ARCA race is 80 laps with half the truck, half the cars, and probably a quarter of the competition, and now your truck race is 60 laps. Like, why is one longer than the other? I'm glad it was. Jesus.

That race took, it literally took us an hour and run the first stage. Yeah, it was forever long. Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, I think you could probably get away with one stage, like a halfway deal or even like a even like a one-third you know I don't know something something something something kind of in a little bit before

middle or something I don't know Arka has no place once again I mean I said it about Talladega they don't need to be a polka no man I don't see it I don't get it I think Daytona in the beginning of the year is okay that usually gets a pretty good amount of cars I agree I think that's a

They need to be short track racing so do the trucks but Arca really does because Arco is kind of in place to let kids run on a big track to get approved for a big track. Now we have cup guys showing up that we've never heard of, and where do they debut? Yeah. Michigan, Daytona 500.

It used to be the old ABC program, Arca Bush Cup. Well, the Davis and kid, the Talladega guy ran Pocono, right? Yeah. Yeah. But you know what I'm saying? Like, it's kind of run its course in terms of what it was meant to do, which was give you an opportunity to get experience on a big track before you got into the Bush series at a big track.

Now it's just like, approved. Everybody can come. Tell Chad, we want to go cup racing, Casey. Yeah, Daytona 500. We're working our way there. TJ's driving. You work on sponsorship. I got so.

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First topic, Ryan Blaney, Rex Kyle Busch, spot on, spot off, TJ. I didn't see what, there's something happened before that, I'm guessing. I didn't see it happen, and when I looked up there, Kyle was already wrecking. I did see a replay and it looked like Ryan got into him. I'm not sure, I'm not sure if something happened before that or not. I haven't went back and looked or anything, but I don't know if he, it definitely wasn't Ryan's fault. If he had enough, he's had enough. I didn't see it. I don't know. Same thing as T.J. I saw

your replay of it. Did you see this replay? I mean, Kyle runs up on a lap car, and Blaney runs him over. I mean, runs him over. And I don't know if, and these cup cars, especially at Pocono, like, it was hard to pass, obviously. So if you have the opportunity when you run, you know, you've got big momentum on a guy, you almost have to take a risk to try and get around him, but you also probably should not drive straight and it was left rear quarter panel.

And I mean, goodness. It looked to me like Blaney ran up on a guy that ran up on a lap car. Yeah, I mean, that's exactly what it was. But I don't know if there was, I don't know if like some, you know, we've heard rumors there was something maybe before that where Kyle raced Ryan hard. But I mean, goodness, he's run them over. I am 1,000% spot off because when I see a wreck, the last thing I want to see is some cartoon.

version of a replay. Did you see that crap? We literally are looking at a television in 2020, and it is a cartoon version of the wreck, and it shows Kyle's car overlaying with Blaney's car, and Blaney's car is like a third of the way into Kyle's car. Blaney's in his back seat. Let me explain something to you.

That can't happen, people. Ryan's car would have been a little more damage. The law of physics does not allow this cartoon portrayal that you're trying to get us to watch. They did it, and I don't know if you guys caught this. We were watching the Xfinity rates, and they did it like during their crank it up segment. They're out there, you know, and it was like a shot of this, shot of that. Then there was like a shot off of the corner, like a speed shot on the wall. And it was cartoon cars going by.

And I'm like, what in the hell is that? Like I'm assuming that's similar to the SMT stuff that we have, you know, that the teams are watching, because that's all cartoons also. Which I don't understand how SMT even exists. How do you take my IP, which is my talent and give it away to the world? Just give it to everybody. Give it to everybody. Hey, Kyle Busch is driving into one with this much more break than us, 200 feet deeper.

Do you think that Steph Curry is going to let you put sensors all over his body and let you see exactly how he shoots and they give it to every single player in the NBA? I'm not talking about via a video game outlet. I'm talking about truly, this is the art, this is his craft, he's perfected, and here's how he does this. We're going to distribute all the players so you guys can shoot like Kirby. That's crazy. Anyway, the cartoon thing, get it, get it out of here. It doesn't belong. The replay that I saw.

So I'm standing beside Josh Williams, who spots for Blaney, and he's like, man, Kyle kept chopping us. And I mean, look, we know what that's like. You get frustrated. I thought that Kyle was up the racetrack just a little bit. Clearly, there was a lap car and plague into the tunnel. And clearly, Ryan Blaney came in and then just ran over the guy. But take this cartoon crap away. You can see, though, you can catch somebody there really fast, especially if Kyle had to get out of it right there.

Like that's a, I can see where, you know, Blaney didn't do anything wrong either. It'd be easy to misjudge right there. Next topic. Bubba Wallace's move to avoid the spinning Ryan Priest. Freddie, spot on, spot off. I mean, spot off, best spotter in the world next. You couldn't even see where he went. So he started spinning, I see him spinning and I immediately called.

I immediately called down. And that was wrong. But you can't. So you guys will know, you guys can tell everybody too, but it's super flat back there. So you see a guy's spinning, he's in the middle of racetrack. You don't know if he's going up. He's coming down. There's no banking back there.

So I see cars scattering. And I'm like, I immediately called down. Bubba commits down. And thank God. Like he throttled up. And at just as, I'm like, I called him a coming across racetrack when I finally could tell the way other cars are scattering that Ryan was coming back across. And I was just like, coming across.

And Bubba Duke's a hazard style down through the infield there, jumping. grades and whatever else was back there. But yeah, I mean, when I seen him commit to the bottom and I saw Ryan coming across, you know how it is, like, you're just waiting to see, and Bubba's so far down that I really couldn't even see Bubba's car anymore. So I was just waiting to see like Ryan's car jerk from hitting us. And then Ryan, you know, we got by and Ryan didn't move. I was like, huh, wow.

Bubba was screaming, laughing. You should have been like, Bubba, what I meant was he's coming down. Stay up, you idiot. I told him on the plane, I said, man, you should have went high. What were you doing? Yeah, exciting, exciting move. Slow Mo is pretty funny. It was, it was, I told him we were pit road open.

I said, all right, pit four to clean pair of draws this time, please. I said, I'll be back. Spot on, spot off. Clint Boyer and Alex Bowman rubbenders battling to the line for eighth. This one was awesome. Brett, what's your take? Spot off, because it was for eight. If it was for the win, man, I'd be all about it.

But I don't know what Clint was doing. I think he got mad or something. I don't know if Alex packed. First of all, we were running seventh, and then we start racing Alex. Then here goes William Byron. Once you get too wide, he just drives by both of us, right? So then you lose that spot. Now you're looking at potentially losing two spots on the last lap.

I don't know if Alex barely got into our left for here or if he packed air. But he certainly slowed down our momentum. And I think Clint was just beating and banging. But then I got on the plane. I was like, you know what? That car drove like for two days. So there's a solid chance. Clint wanted to tear the left side off of it,

just so he didn't have to drive it again for a while. I mean, we've seen it. I mean, obviously, I thought watching them just door slam each other, pretty much just Clint door slamming him across the line was a little excessive for what happened off at three. But we've seen this before. Every point matters. You know what I mean?

You need every point. So that one point could be the difference in, you know, you guys, I don't know where you're, I'm sure you're, what, just 10th, 12th to points, something like that. I mean, I mean, you're a couple bad races away from being putting yourself right in the bubble, so you need to get all the points you can get. Yeah, I was excited. I didn't watch.

I looked off the corner and I'm like, what is going on here? I just want to hear Clint's audio from that part. He didn't say anything. I just want to hear Clint's audio. Kevin Hamlin, I was on the spotter stand at the end. He spots for Alex Bowman and I walked down there on my way out of the building. And I was like, how about that photo finish? I don't think he thought it was funny.

He didn't really talk to me. I guess he's mad. He gets mad sometimes. Kevin can get butt hurt. Remember he punched her? Yeah. He punched her in New Hampshire, ribs. Canaan race.

Came a rib shot. I think he's mad about the next topic. I think he's mad about the next. I thought Kevin was going to... Not a bad day. I thought he was going to kick TJ in the Cahunas one time at Talladega during a bush race. Oh, yeah. He got really mad.

It was absolutely nothing that I could control either. Yeah, you were spotting for Al-Gy. I had Elliot. Who did he have? Casey. Oh, yeah. Casey Kane was in it. Yeah, he got mad at you, dude.

We were coming to pit road, and Justin drove... I guess Justin got to pit road a little bit better and drove down the inside. I have zero to do with any of that. I'm sorry. Stop. TJ only ever has anything to do with it if it's positive. If it's negative, TJ's hands off. You don't control where your guy slots in on pit road.

And someone slows down earlier when he thinks. I mean, your guy, look at Kyle. Does Kyle ever follow anybody to pit road? No, absolutely not. But, you know, you don't really, you just hope your guy doesn't speed on the pit road is all you're hoping at that point. I was watching that race play out. And, you know, a lot of times back in the day, you hate to say that. but you would see guys go into the tunnel and you'd see them lift early and you'd see them set their exit up,

drive underneath the guy. Like you used to be able to outsmart the guys that you were racing. Now you have to out-h-h-h-them. Like you have to race like a complete butthole in order to maintain your position on restarts. And in order to advance, I truly think that's why Blaney ended up wrecking Kyle because he knew he had to race like a butthole. He had a gap and he shot the gap and then Kyle kind of crowded him and boom, you're wrecking, right? It's a whole new world of racing out here. like Pocono, if you can do something to hold a guy off for two laps, eventually, like,

we were not great yesterday. You held the leader off for a handful last for a while. We were not great. We were behind you too. We were probably a 20th place car all day, all weekend, really. But if we got track position, we could run fourth for 20 laps. And then we could, the leader caught us, and we were, you know, we were holding them up, you know, obviously.

But he couldn't get around us until, like, if the second place car started getting closer, we'd let him go, obviously. But, I mean, like, unless we moved over for them, they, it was going to take them three or four laps to get around us. I mean, it was, it was so hard to pass. So you've got to race these people. And if you can outrun them, get a good restart, outrun them, and get in front of them, it's going to be a while before they can get around you. Yeah, for sure. Spot on, spot off. NASCAR penalizes Justin Haley for aggressive driving after he turned Riley Herbs in the Xfinity race, but doesn't penalize Mike Snyder for turning Noah Grexon.

spot on spot off tj spot on for the penalty i mean it's pretty obvious but they're i don't know it's hard to like when this happened blatantly in Vegas was there a penalty involved nope no penalty i don't remember the last time we had a penalty it's been years remember boys have at it came about and the last penalty that i remember after that was when matt kinseth got kicked out of the sport for two weeks for rough driving

outside of that i don't remember anybody being held on pit road. Now, before that, you know, back in the 80s, 90s, I remember guys being held five laps. I remember guys being parked during the race. We got parked in a truck race. Yeah. With Tyler Reddick. Legitimately parked. But the regime change kind of changed all that. You know, and here we are. Look, did he wreck him on purpose? Yes. Yes. Is NASCAR consistent with parking people? No. That's what I have a problem with. I'm pretty sure I was at the Roval last year and watched somebody do the exact same thing to my guy. and had zero penalty.

Yeah. So did Kyle Busch wrecked Bubba Wallace on purpose last year at Watkins Glen? Oh, no. I don't know about that. Did Bubba was, Bubba turned him back? Did Bubba wrecked Kyle on purpose? Bubba turned him back. Then Bowman wrecked us at, you know,

Bowman did the exact same thing at the roval. We did the exact same thing at Watkins Glen. And Haley, I mean, I don't know. I really don't know what the hell Haley was thinking about. I understand. I understand you've had a run in with this guy before Bristol. He probably, he might have cost you a race at Bristol. he loosened you up.

I didn't think that Riley touched him off of three. I thought he just packed down the loose and above. And then you go down the front straightaway and throw away your chance at $100,000 so you can hook this guy in the fence. Like, for one, you either got to be way better about wrecking somebody so you don't tear your car up or two, just have the mental fortitude to say,

all right, I'm racing for something bigger here. You know, this is not the day where I need to pay this guy back. Like, it just didn't seem smart. and obviously I think you have to have a penalty. And you can say they're not consistent, but eventually they've got to draw the line somewhere, and maybe this is where they draw the line so where now this is going to be a consistent call going forward.

On the Noah and Snyder thing, I mean, Miet hooked Noah. But Miat did it in a position where he could blame it on other people. You know, he could say that 22 had him pushed and jacking him up. And the nine ran him up too a little bit. The nine squeezed him, the nine got loose, and then nine move back down and give him room, it seemed like, and then that's when the 21 turned down into him.

I can't defend a guy who wrecks the entire field. You're defending a guy. I'm not defending. I'm just saying he wrecked everyone. And then that one car wrecked 20 other cars. Like, I can't defend that guy. It's not a man versus man at that point. It's a man screwing every man in the field.

Like, I can't let that go. Like, I know my head. I work with Wyatt. Myatt's usually not that guy. both of these guys had severe brain farts. Justin Haley had a brain fart in the sense of he wrecked him on purpose. I don't have a problem of that. He tore up his own car wrecking him.

Now you've got a penalty. Now you're out of $100,000. I mean, we all know Justin Haley would have ran top four, which puts him in a position to win $100,000. Myatt Snyder, however, he wrecked that guy, and he turned him knowing you're on a restart, man. That is a plate-style wreck. And, man, I have a big.

problem with that and I would imagine junior motorsports has a problem with that it wiped out their whole fleet except for a net in one shot I mean the whole fleet and and you know we heard about some rumors maybe of Noah and Maya getting into it at the race and that I don't agree with because obviously myatt wasn't very bright for hooking him in front of the whole field but guess what Noah you wrecked my it blatantly in car camera hands turning right at Vegas was there a penalty there was no penalty and you could tell after the race that my it probably wasn't very happy with you so So now, listen, if he wrecks you, he wrecks you, that's it. And you kind of push the envelope when you use them up at that point in the race.

You know he's in the lane that you want to be in and you try to. And I'll tell you this, ma'am, Noah's getting good at pushing the envelope in spots like that. He's pushing guys to the edge, making them lift or making them. And he's getting away with it. You know what I mean? He's running good. I mean, but it's now he realized he pushed a guy too far and the guy's not going to take it. He's pushed the seven too far as own teammate a lot of times this year.

And I say that to back up what TJ is saying about how hard he's racing. He put himself on an island in terms of how he's going to race people. And now this is one time where... But we really didn't open a can of worms with these guys spending out on purpose until Bubba ran his mouth and then he got fined, what, 50 grand? 50,000. Now we've opened the can of worms of, oh, you're right cow on purpose. We might penalize you.

Look, we either are or we're not. When we go to short tracks, we know what the rules are. We know some short tracks are not going to take it. some are if Wayne Oughton's going to draw that line in the sand he needs to communicate that to his competitors the reason i say that you know i watched daniel hemmerick's interview after and he's like he's like well i was right you know in line there you know the nine started sliding up so he saw what was getting ready to happen and when you see another driver give their point of me he tells you i saw the nine sliding up you know i know i know what no it's trying to do he wanted that spot he wanted

that error he wanted that guy behind him that was his shot at getting up there winning the race but i get it man you go for it man but this is the repercussions of of putting yourself in that spot. You make your own luck. Make a guy mad. He's not going to put up with it. You can't emphasize enough the importance of getting up right there. That's so big.

It's three spots. I mean, if you can get up and not be hung on the bottom, if you get hung on that bottom right there, you're watching at least three or four guys drive by you before you get to the tunnel. There's a lot of, a lot of racers that listen to us. Let me give you racers some advice. If you're going to wreck a guy on purpose,

do it in the corner because it's obvious when you do it on straight away. And probably don't do it in front of the whole field. Yeah. spot on spot off record amount of cautions in the Pocono truck race how about freddie spot off i was trying to wake up because it was nine o'clock in the morning and we couldn't even make it to turn two uh i don't know i saw i don't it was right behind uh Derek was I was spot for Derek Krause so it was right behind us and crack it looked like crafting got wiped out and then we didn't went another green flagged that happened a four drove through the grass

and wiped the 22 out and he hit a ton I mean I mean I mean I mean I mean, these were big wrecks. You know what I mean? Like these, I don't know, there wasn't a spin. You know, we saw, I mean, backing in hard, nosing it in hard. I mean, Krafted hit a tonne, and the four came back hit a ton. Ty Majeski hit a ton. Did you guys see the video of Ty Majeski hitting that wall?

I know it's been circulating around our garage and a little bit on Twitter. But, I mean, man, he moved a lot in his truck. When I got to into the sport as an industry guy and not as a fan, I don't know why, But, you know, YouTube came out. You had the ability to go back and watch a lot of things that, some things you knew about, some things you didn't know about. I remember watching an in-car camera from Johnny Benson in a late model. And it was a very violent wreck.

And I remember just being in awe. And I remember Elliot telling me the rule of thumb, everything that you can touch with your hand in the truck, your head can hit it because of the way your body gives and the way seats give and the way seat belts give. the video of Ty Majeski hitting that inside wall at Pocono, his body looks like it moves a solid foot in that truck. And we know how hard these guys are supposed to strap in.

And I mean, every time Clint comes to one to go, which is a lot before we go by green, I say one to go, check your belts. And you do it out of redundancy. You do it sometimes probably not thinking they're really going to do it. A lot of times you'll see them down there. They'll reach up and grab their belts and tighten them down. I don't know that Ty Majesky's belts were good and tight after watching this thing.

Like, we watched some dumb things go down. Ryan Priest put an in-car camera in his car at Pocono a couple years ago, and it was that 360-degree camera had just come out. And this clown has got a freaking headrest that's at his neck. If he had blown a tire and hit the wall, he was going to probably decapitate himself. I called him, and I was like, Priest, what are you doing? Well, that's the only seat I had. I was like, dude, you're going to, and he didn't put it out there for that purpose.

But, I mean, there are things that we see that make us cringe and make us say, man these guys are going to get hurt and when you see how much tie majeski launches forward in that seat tj it's scary yeah that's pretty amazing i bet he's i bet his shoulders are purple his neck's probably stretched out i bet his shoulders right down here i bet there's purple right there and you know i mean this is not a rookie guy you know this is a guy that's been around forever this is not and i i'd like to think that his belts weren't loose or you know or they were as tight as it needed to be i don't know you know if this is maybe it could be a mounting issue you know where the where the belts aren't mounted properly but i mean that was that was scary to watch after the race you know you i saw it after

the race is over but yeah just the back on the truck race i mean like is this do you think this is a product so we've seen we saw arca have practice sessions before their races because of guys it's a lot of young kids a lot of inexperience i mean do you think that they need to revisit that in a truck series i mean we've gotten through all these other races fine but polkino is a whole other animal and I don't know that that was a product of no practice. I think Pocono is really, really slick, man. I think that bottom lane on restarts is really, really tough to throttle up and get the power down.

And look, it's a hard corner to judge with such a long straightaway. It is. But it's still entertaining. I mean, I had fun watching the truck race. I had fun watching the Xfinity Series race. The Cup race had its moments where it was good. I mean, but at the end of the day, it's hard for us to get in and out of that thing when we're having delays and stuff for us mentally.

But I thought Pocono for 11 hours of race and I thought it put on a good show. I say this, and I hate to say it again, but the Xfinity Series Arrow package is still king right now across NASCAR. It Pocono is just that you can pit without losing a lap, so it shuffles the pit strategies, and that makes things a lot more interesting. From a fan standpoint, honestly, again, I said it,

like Xfinity Series, even trucks, they were, it was very entertaining compared to cut. You got a bunch of guys out there for the first time. It's supposed to be what it was, you know, but I think it goes back to, man, us looking at Jimmy Johnson at Bristol and not having his, no, Phoenix, not having a steering wheel on out there and qualify. Remember that? It pops off. He nails the wall in turn one.

Could have injured himself. Like, it's really small things that can put you in a position to injure yourself. So all you young racers out there, man, don't skip those steps. I mean, that Majesky wreck is scary. Buying and selling a home is not an easy process, but we have friends who will make it easier than you have ever experienced before. That's right, Brad. Our friends at Offerpad.com have simplified the process. You can sell directly to OfferPad by completing these four easy steps.

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Casey had to leave. I think she had pressure on her bladder. Now we got homeboy Jason Schultz filling in for DBC. Here we go. Time for Xfinity Fast Lane. Time to hit a gas and take our Xfinity speed from the track to the studio. Let's jump into our weekly Xfinity Fastlane segment where each person will have 10 seconds to respond to six questions.

Jason, look how much better you've gotten there doing these reads since Freddie gave you that advice to stay away from Dillner's advice. I should probably listen to Freddie. All right, first question. Drivers reported that the traction compound wore off by the middle of the cup race on Sunday. Did the racing improve as the weekend went on in the traction compound wore off? T.J.

No, the racing did not improve. The trash compound actually gave people an opportunity to get a run off turn one and off turn three. You can move around a little bit. You need that with the cup cars. Freddie. There is a lot of factors, I think. For one, you could only use one lane of the traction compound. So everybody for three races or four races was using that one lane.

And two, they washed the racetrack in turn one. So I'm sure that did not help right before the cup race. The tires were awful in the cup race. The tires were awful in the cup race. You could run 40 laps and the guys behind you with tires couldn't pass you. We don't have a racetrack problem. We got a tire problem. Question number two.

The Xfinity Series and Truck Series races on Sunday arguably produced better racing than both cup races at Pocono. What specifically makes the racing in both those series better than Cup at the bigger tracks right now? Brett. Inexperience makes it better. Those drivers in the lower series don't know exactly what they're doing. They don't know the tendencies of the track. They don't know the tendencies of the air, and therefore it's more entertaining. T.J.

Yeah, definitely a lot of, I mean, you can't send a guy to a track like Pocono with no laps for the first time, and where do you live for turn one? And then you're going to have that a handful of times just here when we do no practice stuff. Freddie. Yeah, obviously, I'd be a real record. It's the package. The Xfinity package is way better than the Cup package right now. You can put your car in places where you put other people in uncomfortable positions. But yeah, just an experience.

If you put the Cup guys in the Xenity package, the racing would not be as good. Question number three. wrecked while leading late in the truck race as he was trying to become just the second KBM truck regular to win a race in the last two plus years. What has changed for the once dominant truck stable, driver talent or equipment?

Freddie. KBM's still got a bunch of speed. They've got some guys over there this year that are going to win races. I think Christian Eckus is going to win a race. I think Chandler Smith's going to come in and win some races. So they've got plenty of speed.

There's nothing wrong with the KBM stuff. A common denominator for a lot of their wins is that guy named Rudy. What's trucks he on right now? 51. Yeah. No, I'm sorry. He's on the 18.

18. Which they were going to win the race Saturday and cut a tire. I mean, yeah, they're going to get back winning. Their stuff's too fast. I think it's a little bit of both. I think they still got speed. Maybe not, I think some other, I don't know, I think it's went away a little bit.

When Kyle can't run the full schedule, when Kyle can't run as many races, you lose that knowledge. Yeah. Which helps out a bunch, I think. Question number four. Rick Hendrick drove a boat 115 miles per hour on the lake with Jeff Gordon and Denny Hamlin along as passengers. Would you get into a boat with Mr. H going that fast?

T.J. Sure. That sounds fun. I have been on a boat with Brett going 30 miles an hour, and I thought about jumping off. I don't care who's driving. At 110 miles an hour, if you hit the wrong wave, it's over. No. No chance.

No. Answer's no. I got a quick stop. story myself. Me, Elliot, and Mitch Lash got on Elliot's brand new 38 foot fountain boat, which ran 96 miles an hour.

We got up to 60, and my cheeks were flapping. I looked over at Elliot and I said, if you don't sew down, I'm jumping off. He's like, what? And then he hits this little button and this thing pitches and I about to have a heart attack. And I said, if you don't sew the

f*** down, I am jumping off. I would feel safer jumping off of this. damn thing. Dude, 150 miles an hour is fast on land. It is absolutely flying on water. Rule number one, I'm breaking it. I'm done.

Yeah, I'm breaking every rule. Rule number one, don't be a wuss. I'm wussing up right here. That's not rule number one. I know, but it's Clay rhymes with it. All right, question number five. The Xfinity Series will race on the Indianapolis Road course for the first time in history on Saturday.

If the race is the success and the Cup Oval Race proves to be a snoozer, would you want the Cup Series to move to the road course in 2021? Brett. We're already there, so we may as well run two days. We're on a Saturday Road Course Sunday Cup race. Man, we've got some tracks going away like Chicago, potentially some others. So we're going to have to have new venues in 2021, no matter how you look at it. This could be one of them.

TJ. Yeah, road course racing, I'm all for adding a few more road courses. They're always really good races. And these guys, they're all good at road courses. So it's just a good race. Do you catch the caution at the right time? Things like that. And maybe you could run in the rain.

Yeah, I mean, obviously everybody and their brother wants to see us go back to IRP or something. I don't think you'll see Roger let go of this cup race for a while now that he's bought IMS. But yeah, I'm down. Whatever. That oval race is tough, so I'm down for the road course. Off the wall question. Would you rather sleep in a cold room with no heat all winter? or a hot room with no AC all summer.

Freddie. Cold room. My AC set at about 37 degrees. I freeze my wife out of the house. I'm fat. I can't be hot. It's no fun. Cold room.

Brett. You don't do. If you think I like being hot, you see what color. I turn real red when I got hot. And I'm, man, I'm hot in here.

No, I'll take me. I can put clothes on. I can get a sleeping bag. I got all sorts of tools to warm up. I can't cool. off, T.J. Yeah, I take in a cold room. You can't sleep. Who the hell want, do you know, I mean, who wants to sleep in a hot room? Like, if my AC, I can tell when my AC goes up a degree, you know what I mean?

Dave's wife, Christine, dog treat Dave, his wife would pick the other. Really? Dude, it'll be 90 degrees outside and she walks outside with a shawl and a blanket around her. I'm like, woman, what are you doing? It's hot. I am missing my heated blanket in the studio right now. Oh my God. Yeah, you're, you look so masculine with that electric blanket, Jason. It looks like a normal blanket unless you say it's a heated blanket. It's called an electric blanket. It's not called a heated blanket.

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to keep you connected with behind-the-scenes NASCAR content you don't get anywhere else. Ask DBC. Send in your question. questions 24-7 on Twitter using the hashtag AskDBC. First question from at JR Money underscore 28. On larger tracks like Daga and Pocono, how much of each lap are you spotting through binoculars and how hard is it to transition from binoculars to traditional line of sight?

T.J. It depends on what the situation is. You're looking at Teledega if you're always monitoring the gaps behind you, but if it's single filed by the wall, you're probably not going to have your binoculars up the entire time. But, you know, it depends that if you're leading it, you're probably not having binoculars up every time because you can see where they're side by side, how many rows they are back. But if you're the car that's fourth in line on their side by side behind, you got them up and you're watching runs and you're looking at things.

Pocono, same deal. If you're not racing anybody down to the corner, you're probably not putting your binoculars up every single time down there. You know, on restarts and everything, sure, almost every corner there for a few laps. but after that it kind of thins out and you don't use them. Yeah. Pocono, I mean, on a restart, I'll put them up just so that I can tell if we're two or three wide, three quarters of a mile down there to turn one, especially now. You guys are both in the turn one side, right, for the cup race?

Yeah. I was down there turn three, and you thought turn one was hard before. Like, you couldn't even tell if a guy pulled out without your binoculars looking down there this time. But yeah, I don't, it restarts for a couple laps of Pocono, and then once it gets strung out, you don't really need them. Taledega use them more obviously, but same thing. If it's not packed up racing, you're really not probably using them a whole lot. Talladega, we're using it for 90% of the lap. When they exit the tri-oval, we put binoculars up,

and we have them up all the way until they enter the tri-oval. Pocono completely different. We didn't used to use binoculars at all at Pocono, to be honest with you guys. But then as these rules have changed, I use my binoculars more yesterday than I've ever used them, but we ran in that tent to the 20th window. Restarts have gotten insane. Like you used to get single file really quickly at Pocono now, like four laps after. If you're back there 15th, man, you're still two, three wide.

You get one slow guy in front of you at bottlenecks the whole thing. But I don't love using binoculars at track other than plate races because it really screws up your peripheral vision and your ability to help those guys miss Rex. I mean, if Freddie's got his binoculars up and Priest Rex, solid chance Freddie can only see Bubba and he can't see Priest Rec. And now you're not able to help your driver. So very, very important for us not to use binoculars when it's not necessary. And I see a lot of guys on the roof that use binoculars too much.

And I literally have said it's even during practice. I look down. And I'm like, what are you looking at? I looked down. I'm not going to say who it was. I looked down and I saw a guy using binoculars at Martinsville. Wow. Martinsville.

I said Martinsville. There's a solid chance you need a new. line of work. I don't even know where my binoculars are when I'm at Marginzville. Yeah, mine are in my bag. I know that much. They don't come out. What number? Car?

I literally. Might have had a five in it. Oh, no. Oh, my gosh. So I'll just get this out of the way now before we get to our stupid rant. Luckily, he went around long enough on Saturday to do anything stupid, to double zero, just wiped out another one of their cars. No big deal.

But Friday, Sunday, I watch. I just happened to catch it because we were like, I don't know, 20, 30 cars behind it. Off of three, I see two cars just door each other and then split up. I was like, whoa, that was big. I look, double zero, 19, just drove straight to the side of the 19 off of three. Wow. This guy's lost. I don't even know how you.

Luckily, he was doing a meet and greet, though. We got these strict guidelines where we don't, we're not supposed to be around anybody. And he's going out and doing a meeting greeting sign an autographs. I'm pretty sure. I'm assuming there was. I'm pretty sure there wasn't many people around. Solid chance of three of us could get more people at a bi-low grocery store to come see us. He was probably still social distancing.

Yeah, I'm pretty sure. I got to say two things to our buddy Kipp who listens. First of all, us being on two different spotter stands was phenomenal. We were not nowhere near as on top of each other. We weren't fighting for space. I could see better. We weren't fighting to see turn one. It was safer for all of us safer for our competitors.

Number two, Kip, when you're driving the pace car, and it's raining. And you say, Tower, we're not losing the racetrack, but it's changing colors. That doesn't make sense. Because if it's changing colors, TJ, what do you think's happening?

It's a dry rain. You're losing the racetrack, Kip. I couldn't tell why they kept asking Stan House, what the hell was going on with the racetrack? You catch that? 47, what are you got? 47, what are you got? I'm assuming Kipps, because all these guys have numbers.

They don't ever use their names on the NASCAR radio. And it's like 47, what do you? I'm assuming that was Kip. You don't have any idea how bad I wanted to go green that one time. He said, want to go with the line, and it was like a rain. And I'm like, I'm like 25th. I'm like, let's do it, boys. It wasn't Kip.

I don't know who, I don't know if you guys know, but I don't know who drives the chase truck. But there was one time. You could see it. It was raining, like, hard in turn three. And he's like, uh, it started for a second, but it's gone away. And I'm like, maybe I'm seeing something completely different. Or maybe it just stopped right where he's at. Yeah.

It was pouring. It felt like, and that's when they soaked the track. We're not losing the track. tower, but it's changing colors. I was 26 when that was going down. I'm like, throw the green, man, let's go. We're going to get half it on their front shot and be like, just lay off a little bit here. Just hang on. Yep, I love you. I'm just trying to help you. This is all out of love. You have a 40 geniuses listening to you. Don't ever forget that. Kip, turn it off because when I get to the rant, you're not going to want to hear it.

And I don't condone anything Freddie is going to say. I got to go. Last question from Mike Barbone, 191. Since we had a 930 a.m. start time. If I was in attendance, I'd be cracking open a beer before the green flag. What's the earliest you've ever started drinking? I haven't quit drinking. I mean, yeah, I was going to say, there's been many days where you don't, I mean, one o'clock in the morning, midnight. Dudjner built that western town and you get in there and we would go in the saloon there back in the day and you'd look outside me like, man, I wonder what time it is. And you see it like light outside. You're like, oh, well, I guess I know what time it is. So, and Dillner's probably done

this. The earliest, one of the biggest things I used to do every year after I turned, I don't know, probably 16. I mean, but what I mean is 21 is St. Patty's Day. You get on the damn train. You start drinking at, I don't know, 7 o'clock in the morning and you go into the city for the parade. You know, you go bar hop and you go to the parade a little bit. And that was just a day. I mean, you were drunk and blackout drunk by dinner time and you were back on the train going home. But yeah, we used to start damn. I mean, it was as early as you. you can get on the train and take that. And the train was just nonstop.

People with 12 packs. It was a complete shisho for hours on that train right in there. I think this guy's asking, like you've been to bed and you're waking. That's what I'm saying. What's your earliest start time? And we had noon kickoffs for college football. And I remember getting up at 6.37 in the morning, painting my toenails, wearing some sandals, cracking open a butt light,

Hold on. Hold on. Wait. Stop back the fuck up. What did you say? Did you say painting your toenails? Man, there was a Friday night. We'd all been at five points, which is a big hangout.

I've been there once. Yeah. You remember it? No. We went to five points. We came back to our apartment and these girls wanted to paint our toenails. Well, I was only one dumb enough to say, yeah. Well, we won the game the next day.

So I was like, man, this has got to be good luck for us. So I let them paint my toenails. So then every game day, I'd wake up, paint my own toenails and crack open a beer. Man, I miss college. You've stopped paying your toenails last few years, right? Yeah. Good luck.

He painted them in Martinsville a couple years ago when Clint won. Every morning he's got 14s on his big toe. Man, you know what? You guys want to paint my toenails? We did the Fathersdale in Michigan whenever Doe Jr. won. They did the Father's Day Olympics. I covered for Stevie. I covered for LaTarte with his kids in the bus lot.

And they painted my nails and then we won, so it was almost a thing. All right, time to rant. So, I'm out. TJ's leaving. It's where Freddie gets his hard card pulled. I don't understand how this screw-up happens, but this was a royal screw-up. Let me get a spotter stands. Nope.

The 47 car stalls on the front straightaway, and this probably didn't make it a TV, so nobody even knows about it. I don't know if it was talked about on Twitter at all. I didn't go back and look. I saw him pull over. The 47 stops on the racetrack, couldn't get his car refired. Whatever it was, I'm not sure. Still to this day, I don't know what happened. So he gets a tow truck to come back behind him and push him. So now the tow truck starts pushing him. So instead of going all the way around the racetrack like you're supposed to, he hangs the left at the end of pit wall and the tow truck pushes him the wrong way up pit road. So I'd get on my radio, I'm like, well, I feel like this probably shouldn't be legal. And my crew chief is like, what do you mean?

and he sees him go by. He's like, what the hell? So now what you've done is essentially save this guy because the field's coming back. We've already passed him one time. He stopped. We're coming back around. So now we're going to lap him.

And as you're pushing him, we're going to continue to lap him. So now he's going to lose a second lap. And the way it was going to time out, I believe, is he was going to be getting to pit road or close to pit road as we're getting ready to go green. So now if they're pushing him down pit road still, he's going to turn in wherever he turns in, turned out to be Victory Lane and probably lose another lap while we're racing under Green.

So you're looking at being at least two, maybe three laps down. But instead what happens is they push him back the wrong way, save him all that time and going all the way around the racetrack at 30 mile an hour. And now he fixes his car, backs out. They've got 12 people in Victory Lane working on it. I thought nobody's a lot in Victory Lane. But now you back out and he drives out. He doesn't lose another lap.

He's one down. He comes out, two laps the end of the stage. He gets a lucky dog at the stage, saves his whole. race finishes 17th and there's no there's no penalty there's I don't know is this legal I want to know this is legal now because if I if my guy gets a flat and it's off a four I'm gonna have him stop and come back the wrong way on pit road like you can't have this this is ridiculous how this happen I bet you don't why not why wouldn't you it's gonna save your damn race yeah I mean how does this happen if you have to turn up pit road and go backwards you're basically to me you're pulling up to

pit it's like pulling up to pit basically you're passing the field to pit. I mean, I'm fine with it if you want to, if you're going to be out of the race. If you know, if you're, you know, I just blew my motor up. You know, you're done. You're coming back. You know, I'm just trying to say. Even then, he was going head on into traffic. The cars that were lap down cars were driving head on toward Ricky Stenhouse. So, so Ricky turns down pit road, which is smart on his part. Absolutely. He's saving himself several minutes, which is saving himself several laps. Uh, so the guy pushing him, had he ever been to a lot? He's saving himself to a a racetrack before? Does he not know the rules?

I mean, I don't... Does the Tower not realize they have to say, hey, stop, we got to correct this? I mean, I don't understand. And to be honest with you, I don't even know what you can do. I guess you can give him a one-lap penalty for... That's what I was saying. That's the same thing you would get for pulling up the pit. You've got to hold him a lap at least. I mean, you've got to do something.

You just can't let the guy... I mean, his race was like... It costs it never happened. It cost us... It cost us a spot in the race, obviously. It cost us potentially a spot in the points, because we're within 10 or 12 points of Ricky. So now instead of finishing, he's finished the 17th instead of maybe like 28th or 29th. You know, obviously it's not, it's too early in the season, but, you know, it just, it has a lot of ripple effects to what happened right there. To me, it's the same. I mean,

you're literally pulling up to pit. You're passing, you're passing the field to hit pit road. So you're saving yourself a complete lap. Yeah, 100%. Yeah, you should, it should be a, it's pulling up to pit. If you go up pit road backwards, you're saving yourself a lap. So, and I'm, I mean, I just, I just don't understand. Like, like, I don't know. I just want to know if I can do it. No. What's going to happen to the next? We talked about consistency earlier. If I had that same problem Sunday, guess what I'm doing?

And I guess what's going to happen to you? I'm going to get a penalty. You know what I mean? I'm going to get a one-lap penalty. So, and I don't know, you know, I don't know that I'm sure they noticed it. I'm sure they were talking about it. But you know what's what? I wonder who was running second in the Lucky Dog spot at that point in time.

That's the person they got it. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. I didn't even realize it, you know, we run. It was right before the end of a stage, I think. It was like that three-lap stage run. Yeah, I saw him pull over. And I saw him go to Victory Lane.

And I was like, the yellow come out or the green checker. And they're like, 47, lucky. I was mad. When I saw it happen, I was mad. I'm like, this is ridiculous. But I'm like, yeah, he'd be fine, whatever. It's not really the end of the world. He's going to save a little bit of time.

So then we get the checkered and they're like, 47 lucky dog. And I'm like, are you doing me? Now this guy's back on a lead lap. I got to race him the rest of the day. He should be three laps down. Well, that's what I saw. I saw a car going down pit road backwards and I was like, well, this isn't legal. Then I saw a guy sitting and yawning me.

I'm a smart ass. I thought he was done. I did too. I saw him turning to Victory Lane. I'm like, well, this ain't allowed. Only the driver and one media person is allowed to Victory Lane. Like, we can't have the whole crew and the driver in Victory Lane here. Like, Ricky's celebrating something.

So then I'm like, well, he's gone. We won't see him rest today. I don't realize that he gets a lucky dog until after the race. Freddy and I are grabbing some dinner at Murphy's. And they're like, Freddy's like, man, you won't believe it. Ricky Stenhouse beat me today. And I'm like, what? And then you obviously know why immediately.

So, yeah, that's a pretty big screw up. All right, DBC picks. Brett won, race won at Pocono on Saturday with William Byron. And T.J. One yesterday. Oh, all, all, all, all,elujah. With race winner, Danny Hamlin. Now it's 8 to 5 to 2 with Brett leading Freddie in second, and T.J.

And third. Let's make some picks from Indy. We had really, really bad picks on Saturday to really, really good picks on Sunday. Brett won with a 14th place finish on Saturday. I let you, boy. And then TJ was first, I was third, Brett was ninth on Sunday. So we hit it right. I just, TJ, I need you to get some more races, man.

The only way I'm going to catch Brett is if you start winning. He can't win. It ain't happening, dude. Look at my finishes. Everybody I picks 30th. You got a one on there now. So how do we know who picks where? We go off the last race.

I just run the last race, I would say. All right, so TJ picks last. I pick first. First. Oh, stanky. Oh, man, how many races are left before we're done playoff, before we start the playoffs? What race number are we on? We just past halfway.

I think there's like 11 or 12 left. Yeah, we're in trouble. I'm in trouble. Oh, I'm in big trouble. I'm running out of people. Yep. This guy, we don't know the starting order yet, do we? No.

No. I know what you're going to pick. I'm just going to screw me. Me too. I love screwing you guys over. What are you guys leaning toward right here? Does it start with an A, N, N, What?

No, but you can have him. Who? Yeah, that was my pick. Go ahead and take him. I am going to go with a guy that I thought had a lot of speed. Ryan Blaney. I was going to take Ryan Blaney. Hala?

Then I will take Eric Amelrola. That's who I was on a fence about. We got a long way to go. Since you guys are taking ringers, I'm just going to go ahead and take Michael McDow. Hey, McDowell runs pretty good there. Solid pick. I mean, what else are you going to use him? And he ran, I mean, he was fast.

I mean, I feel like Indy and Pocono are pretty compared. You know, one of the turns at Pocono, I don't even know which turn it is, is designed after Indianapolis. Well, they say the tunnel turn is what Todd Parrott always said. Todd Parrott would say if you're fast across the tunnel, you're going to be fast at Indy. Yeah, and Michael was good. You know, they had the right pitch strategy. What do you finish?

Seventh or eighth on Saturday. I'd love to get Todd Parrott on this show. He's funny. Hey, I think. Todd Parrot belongs in the Hall of Fame. That's hard to argue that. Eventually at one point. I mean, he'll be in it at one point.

He's the man. I enjoyed working with Todd. You never had to wonder what he was thinking. Good news, too, man. I mean, we keep talking about seeing progress in society. The owners are back at the racetrack this weekend. They had their own little bus slot spread out out there outside of the racetrack. They had their own suites.

They were allowed to go in and social distance in. So we've had some stuff go on here where fans were allowed to come for a couple weeks. Now we're obviously taking a few weeks. off because the states we're going to. Owners are back at the track. We're going to get this thing back to normal eventually. So just hang in there with us, man. And listen to your, listen to the guidelines, man.

Yeah. I mean, I guess if I had a rant, just do what the government and stuff says. I don't know. I mean, people, there's a reason why they're telling us to do this stuff. And it's, you know, we can knock it out if we all work together with it quicker rather than all have our own ideas. Yeah. I agree with you.

That's my opinion. I agree with you. We're off to Indy. I am excited about going to Indy. I was just texting my travel lady, Jennifer Stimbaris, who is one of the best in the business. I'm trying to figure out when I'm supposed to be there, when I got to be there, because I want some St. Elmo's. Yeah, some shrimp cocktail. I got to go, I got to practice this week.

Practice. Practice. What the hell is that? Oh, we're going to a new track, so they got to let you practice. Got a couple hours or about an hour and 40 minutes of practice. He's got the old dinger on a road course. If he stays on the pavement, there's no way you beat him or Cendrick. They've got to be the top two favorites by a lot, right?

Cendrick's been fast lately. Yeah. Like, he's, he takes, like, you did a Sydney race, right? No, I didn't do it this week. No, you didn't either, do you? We were watching it. It seems like the last month, man, they dropped the green flag. He's taken off.

Like, he's three wide around the outside, like, just going, man. So, and this is his, I promise you he's been, he's ready for this road course. There's no doubt that the two best teams in Xfinity Series right now, Stuart Hoss and Penske. That would make sense. You know, and then you got, in my opinion, colleague and J.R.M. right there. What's weird is, we know those Gibbs cars are a lot faster than where they're running. Those drivers, obviously Harrison Burton's got to win. But those drivers are going to have to, they're going to have to step it up, man.

Harrison's doing good for his experience that he's gotten so far. He's got a little learning car still. But, I mean, this is his first year, one year of trucks, right? Well, one, I think one full and a bunch of starts before that. He's got a lot of starts and a lot of stuff. Yeah. Yeah. He's, I mean, I think he's doing okay.

I think he's, I think he's better than Brandon Jones. You know, I think he's better than Brandon Jones. It's ceiling's higher. Yeah, his ceiling's way higher. Riley, I'm still, I don't know about Riley. He's, he crashes a lot. I mean, obviously this week, he got rigged. But, you know, it's just he's got to clean that up.

He's got to put himself in better positions. Yeah. But he's fast, but just has that one moment. Yeah. Like Arca Reyes at Talladega, that one moment. Yeah. Thanks, everybody for listening. Help us out by sharing the show on social media.

Send us your thoughts. Leave some Apple reviews as well. Appreciate it. Only good reviews. We don't want to hear anything, Ben. Yeah. Somebody reviewed something about, like, I don't know, helping with our car insurance or something like that. Did you ask Bob if he shift his pants?

He said he shift his pants. I shift my pants. exactly when it happened. I said, good job. I'll be back. I'm going to need a minute. They were showing the ink car of Chase Sprisco, and he was doing all that shifting.

Oh, yeah. I just started loud and I was like, he shipped his car. Yeah. And then he probably did shift his pants, too. He shifted his seat. He'd down the backstretched, down that long pond. He started, I'm leading the race, and I saw just like, oh, oh, oh, that in car was hilarious when he started having to catch you.

I mean, one of the guy take the lead back, 10 laps later? I mean, it was like seven laps, wasn't it? I don't remember. I don't know. Or was it 15? It was either 7 or 15. Yeah, it was something. It was ridiculous either way.

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