Door Bumper Clear - 181 - Worst Place to Spot a Race

Episode Date: July 6, 2020

After a unique weekend of racing at the famed Indianapolis Motor Speedway, T.J. Majors, Brett Griffin and Freddie Kraft cover everything that went down. Along with co-host Casey Boat and producer Jason Schultz, the gang talks Jimmie Johnson sitting out after testing positive for COVID-19, blown tires and sickening hits in Sunday’s NASCAR Cup Series race and the scary pit road pileup. Social distancing requirements relocated the spotters at Indy and the views were not ideal. The guys explain where they spotted from and the obstructed views they experienced. After an exciting Xfinity Series race on the IMS road course, the crew debates whether it’s time for the Cup cars to abandon the oval or if the Brickyard 400 is fixable for the premiere series. The Bristol All-Star Race will utilize the choose cone and the guys talk through how it will impact the event. After last week’s episode of the Dale Jr. Download with Australian Paul Morris, T.J. sets the record straight on his test in a V8 Supercar during a trip to Australia. Plus, Casey’s dog Susan steals the show and offers Casey a glimpse into the future.  Want more DBC? Check out and subscribe to the new DBC YouTube channel! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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Hello. Clear. Bring home. Three lights. Coming to the line. George Bumper, clear. Hey, everybody. I'm T.J. Majors, Spotter, the 22 cup car, and another full house.

And that's not a big joke, Freddie. Or Casey. Brett Griffin's spotter for Clint Boyer, fresh out of Indy. Yeah, what's up? Freddie Crafts, Spotter for Bubba Wallace off a top 10. Whoop these guys' asses just today. And I had a good day Saturday, too, at the Dinger. Almost pulled that one off.

But old Chase Briscoe made a lot. a hell of damn moving the one that I didn't I didn't think he could pull off but he did um but what's up case baby bump and all on all social media hello everyone yes that's not a baby bump anymore whatever you call it's like a baby mountain now well what are you expecting nothing that's what happens I'm excited exactly I'm excited for you maybe one last baby moon or something well I think Freddie should um oh boy enact the picture too which which where did you guys decided to go on that baby moon that you were texting me about which beach did you hit um we haven't gone yet i think we're going to go to helton head though okay take your advice yeah you'll like

yeah yeah it should be relaxing i don't think we'll be able to do a ton obviously just trying to obviously if you just kind of check the map maybe that's probably a hot spot might want to go to like you know alaska or something like that okay well if you can figure out a place in north or south Carolina that is not a hot spot right now, then you let me know. Pageland. Yeah, what about going north? Yeah, go check out. Pageland's a hot spot.

I had 11 cases last week. See? Sounds nice. That's half the population. Yes. Do you have a hotel? Yes. Yeah, it's called his mom's house.

Did you only imagine what it looks like? Talk about a roach motel. Norman Bates. Is it really a motel in Pager? Yeah, there's a mother's a motel or hotel. It's a motel, right? It's a motel. It's a motel.

It's a motel. It's a motel. It's a motel. You got to go to the front desk and get a real key to get in. Y'all know the difference in a motel and a hotel, right? The difference is... I'm sure you've got some crazy page. No, I don't know.

No, the difference is a hotel you enter your room from the inside of a building. You have come through a building. A motel, you enter your room from the outside of the building. You pull up to the door. You drive up to your door. You're right, yes. That's the difference between a motel and a hotel for all you young people out there. Here's the difference between a motel and a hotel.

The motel rents by the hour. Like, let me put it this way. I started watching Tiger King last night on the way home, and all those people, they would stay at motels. Yes. And whereas, you know, us four. I don't know. I don't know. Matthew Dillner and Jason may be motel material, too.

But if you stayed in a motel, man, you are flat-ass rough. The last motel I stayed in, junior motorsports put me up at Bristol, Tennessee, at a red roof inn. That was my last motel. I stayed at a motel. Not that long ago, actually. It was for an hourly rate or? Yeah, an hourly? hourly,

Gibbs stayed at a motel in Watkins Glen. It was pretty nice, though, because it was like overlooking the lake there and stuff. So it wasn't bad. There's a little teaky bar, but, I mean, it was still a motel. It was a shish hole. Why do motels have an hourly race?

Your red roof in is where I was supposed to stay and in Bristol, Tennessee, and I quickly said no and changed it because I didn't want to get kidnapped. So thanks for letting me know. It's super sketch. Yeah, that Tiger King show, I thought we were a weird industry. I can't believe it's just now watching this.

Well, you know, I don't watch TV at home. I haven't watched it. So I turned it on and I'm like, I really have no – I think this whole thing is about this one guy, Joe, exotic. It's not. It's about three or four different tiger breeders. And I'm sitting there and I'm like, man, our industry just keeps looking more and more normal. These people are straight out weirdos. Like they're in the sex cults.

I mean, how far have you gotten into this? I'm probably three quarters of the way in. It's only going to get worse. Like, these people are flat out crazy. It ends on a bet on the worst note, don't it? No, no. I mean, there's some stuff that goes on at the end, but no, it's not too bad. But, I mean, forget all that.

These people are weird. Like, I'm telling you straight up weird. Which I guess you've got to be to want to get in the cage with a tiger anyway. How about the one person that, like, she, I'm pretty sure it's a girl. This is a hard show to tell who's what gender. Karen? But she takes care of the tigers. And then one of them just, you know, like, what not a big deal, just ate her arm off, you know, like a bit her arm off and she's got no arm now.

But good news is she still works there. Like, that's, you know, that's what I would do. She came back five days. After a tiger eats, bites my arm off, I'm probably just going to, I might just find, like, some. She came right back, started right by working. Some chickens to work with or something. These people are crazy. They're not scared to die.

No. How would you get in a cage with a tiger? Like, so they didn't get in. I mean, these people were, but she was like feeding it through a cage and the thing grabbed her arm and ripped it off, apparently. But no, they're in there. They're in there. This guy Joe Exotic, like, he's in there. The thing gets mad.

He's, like, hitting it with a stick. He's like, damn it, stop. The thing's trying to bite the hell out of him. Like, it's, you have to watch. You have to watch it. Shear entertainment. Part of Joe kind of reminds me of Brett in, like, some of his, the way he, like, mannerisms. Like, he wants the camera on him all the time.

I thought he was going to reference my hair. I kind of started. From the pictures I've seen, Joe Exotic, it's got. Way more going on. He's got better tattoos than I got. He's inked up. He's a hell of a singer. Kentucky waterfall out back too, honey.

My God, how did we talk about Joe Exotic? So Indianapolis. Yeah, how did we get here? Yeah, so, guys, how was Indy? So I was thinking for a little minute that we were going to get rained out without seeing a range drop. I did too. I was going to say, without seeing a raindrop, I thought we were going to get rained out. Because we were about two or three lightning strikes away from going home without racing.

Because the race was, it was done. dark one would end it. So, I mean, if we went another hour, we weren't going to be able to run. I was trying to figure out where I was going to get a set of clothes and some toothbrush and stuff, because I looked at the weather and I saw 20% chance of rain. I guess that's starting to look for lightning now, chances, because that's what's killing us is the lightning. I mean, honestly, again, we said it last week. We got lucky again. I mean, there was a storm had us center punched again and just dissipated as it got there. We have yet to start, we haven't started a race on time, I don't think.

It's been like eight out of 11 or something like that. Yeah. And I mean, how much longer do we have to do it? You know, like, man, I don't know. Hey, this week's start is 230. A little bit better. Which is, oh, dude, it's way better. I mean, you're still definitely going to run the threat of thunderstorms.

It doesn't matter. But, I mean, if you get a thunderstorm at 430, you at least got your race in. You didn't end your day. And I think yesterday what we were looking at is, man, it's, you know, it's 430. and this rain is on top of us. I don't know how it didn't rain. It's like we've been lucky as crap two weeks in a row. That's the problem is all of the start times are during afternoon thunderstorms.

And so it's obviously pertaining to because of the network, but like in their availability. But I mean, the way the races are, I feel like no matter where we go, it's always going to have a threat for some sort of. There's some races I feel like you can that are okay to start later. What, in like Phoenix? Yeah. But like, I don't know, man. I feel like we got, I feel like this is a trend that people just haven't really bought into yet. Like, you know, we're trying to move races back.

Everyone always, you know, everyone just used to the 1 o'clock or 1230 or 1 o'clock NASCAR start. I'm fully convinced, TJ, that NASCAR and the TV networks are smarter than we are in terms of knowing when to run the race to maximize viewership. But I'm also thinking that we are smarter than they are in the sense of we know the probability of not running the race at all are being super delayed. because of the inevitable in the middle of the summer in these particular regions that we're in. We're not in Phoenix. We're not in Fontana. We are in thunderstorm freaking hell, literally. Yeah, I don't.

Well, they know the prior, like, they know what's most important, though. Like, if they know the right time to run a race for ratings, then they're going to run it, no matter what. Well, when it's delayed two hours or it goes to Monday, you're hedged your bed on nothing. Eight out of 11 times your race is not going off at the time to have the best ratings. Maybe you should just move it up so you actually get the race in. some I don't know I mean two things that drive me crazy about it are you know the tracks without light I don't care about three o'clock started or two 30 start at Kentucky because we got lights we can we have all day whatever you know whatever happens we can get that race in but so just you know obviously you don't want to put yourself in a box of these places without lights but then not only that but okay we're going to have a four o'clock start yesterday but the green flag is until 430 or 425 whatever it was like I mean if we're going to have a 4 o'clock start let's get out there do the pre-race stuff at 3.30. 30 and throw the green at four. Like, I mean, at least, I mean, I know you got to probably have some time for TV to get

their stuff in, but I mean, now you're pushing yourself back even further by starting to race 25 minutes after the advertised start. You're not leaving yourself much room for anything to happen. Yeah. So we were probably, we were one quick rain shower away from being done for the day, not doing a thing all day long. If that track got wet yesterday at 4.30, the art, we were going home. They were going home because.

Have you guys heard what the, schedule looks like potentially. I know they're supposed to release it soon, like the rest, at least some of the next few races. Have you guys heard in the game? I think we see the remainder of the Cup schedule come out this week. I think the big question marks are on a couple places like Watkinsville, New York, like Brooklyn, Michigan. Look, man, Brooklyn, Michigan, I doubt seriously that's a hot spot for the coronavirus. But that governor is, she's something else as it pertains to policing her people and telling them what to do. And then obviously, you know, Watkins Glen, New York, do I think it's a hot spot?

No, but the entire state of New York has said, if you come to the state of New York from North Carolina, you have to quarantine for 14 days. So that governor, Cuomo, is going to have to sign an order that would allow, what, 1,500 people probably to come in and do their jobs. And, you know, I don't know that that's probable either, you know, so I think those two markets. Maybe there's others. You know, Texas obviously backed up to phase two. but I mean I think Texas we're fine to go out of their race hopefully the fans still get to come yeah I see we seen also yesterday there I think it was Adam Stern kind of tweeted that you know if if we do move Watkins Glen it's going to be to a roval in the southeast which I think

you're only there's only two options there right I mean you're talking Charlotte or Daytona Daytona I think it'd be interesting to see if we go to Daytona because I'm pretty sure the Walkins Glen race is scheduled for the week before go back to Indy Daytona hey I don't Got date on now. That race on Saturday was incredible. I only got to watch the first stage and I got to watch the very end. Holy cow, what a great race. Yeah.

And, you know, I say it's incredible because of the finish. And you kind of fall into that trap a lot of times. But it wasn't that great in the middle part. You know, you had guys kind of got strung out. But like we always see this at a road course. You know, you always get that late caution and sets up drama. And then the guys between AJ, Chase and Cindrick, them guys drove their asses off for about five laps there.

And you can tell that blowing corners coming back, the Chase blows a corner, loses the lead, comes back, it takes it back with a hell of a move into one. So, you know, but, yeah, I mean, anywhere. But I would be interested to see if we'd run, like, I'd like to see us run. I'm pretty sure that Walker's gun race is the week before the Daytona

playoff cutoff race. And it'd be interesting to see if we go down there, run the road course and then go back to next week and run, you know, the oval. I think Dover might be in between them. Is there Dover? I know it's like the end of August. Yeah, within three weeks.

Yeah. But, yeah, it's Casey, we should see more cup scheduling. coming out this week. Yeah, I agree. Maybe they're learning with all the rain delays that maybe they'll be a little bit earlier. I was interested to see. I was watching the flow racing the other night,

and I don't even know what I was watching. What is a flow racing? Flow racing is... It's the network for Sprint Car and Midger Racing. It's an app. It's like, I don't even know. I think I want to say it's like $100 a year. But it's like you can channel surf

and watch any kind of racing you want. It's actually pretty good. It's really good. Yeah. And it's simple to do. You know, you just click a button on your phone and it's on your TV. I was thinking about going to Millbridge this Wednesday.

You guys ever been there? I was thinking about going to night because my buddy Cropps is racing. Crops is racing? Yeah. He's running a TNQ race. Yeah. I got a friend racing Wednesday or kids race on Wednesday. So where's they might go on?

But yeah, so I'm watching that. And the guy, the announcer for this sprint car race that I'm watching is buddies with a guy that owns or runs Gateway, WWT Raceway. And he's like, I don't know if they've announced this yet, but the trucks are running Gateway with the Indie cars. And I'm like, ooh, they have not announced that. I don't know if you're supposed to say that or not. But it's interesting to hear that because we've heard a lot of rumors that all the non-companions are going to go away.

So that's obviously, I mean, obviously you're going to be with IndyCar, so it's something. But, you know, a little leak there on the truck schedule. So maybe we'll see some of these non-company races. We hope so. So before we start on spot on, spot off, what did you guys think of the news that came out last week with Jimmy testing positive for COVID? Surprised. I guess, surprised, but, you know, this was going to be the, this could happen. And I think we were all kind of prepared for it to happen.

We didn't know, you know, who it would get first or whatever, but I think everything was handled quickly and hopefully it's the last of it. I got a text about 15 minutes probably before this broke that a big name cup driver had it. and you're sitting there and you're like, all right, there's what, six of those, seven of those right now? And so then I start asking questions. And the response I got was he has the most rings of anybody. And I was like, well, that's pretty obvious who that is. And so I actually started texting with his PR person.

And I was like, wow, it sounds like your phone's about to blow up. And it's Amy Walsh. He used to work alongside of me for many years. when she actually got in the industry, I helped train her. But I started texting her, and I was like, hey, sounds like your phone's about to blow up. She's like, oh, my gosh, like this is insane. And so you're watching this whole thing. I think I text Freddie and told him, hey, you ain't going to believe what's getting ready to happen.

And so obviously it drops, boom, it blows up. Well, then I'm reaching out to a few driver friends about it. And they're like, man, he tested positive for the antibodies months ago. He went and had the blood test done because he thought he had it while he was in Phoenix. And so then you're like, uh-oh, this is super confusing. He tested positive for an antibody, so he's already had it theoretically. So now he's got it again, but he's asymptomatic. So can we just keep getting this and carry this?

So I got a friend in Virginia, Dr. Mike Anderson, and I text him. I'm like, how does this happen? He said, actually, it happens very easily because the test early on weren't extremely accurate, very, very possible that antibody test was a false positive. You actually need to take two or three in a row and they get. get two positives out of three tests for you to for sure have those antibodies. So I mean, I would hate to be in a position, Freddie, where I thought I had already had it and I hadn't already had it because obviously when his wife shows up with it first,

you know, he has to go get tested again. He does. Now he knows that he has it. And the last thing I want to say is I give huge props to Jimmy Johnson for doing the right thing being responsible, which is, A, he went and got tested, you know, it sucks. It was positive, but B, after it was a positive test, he came out publicly and said, I have the coronavirus. This guy could have taken two Tylenol, showed up at the racetrack, tried to skate the system, put other people at risk. And that's what I'm most proud of because he said a good example.

He set a great example, man, because there's a lot of pressure on us to not get it. We all feel it. You know, I mean, who would have spotted yesterday if I get to the racetrack? And unfortunately, I don't pass the temperature check. There's a lot of pressure on all of us to not get it and to still show up and do our job. So huge props to him in the way that they've handled this entire situation. Yeah, I mean, you're obviously you're social distancing, but then if you're told, all right, you've already had this and you can't get it again, you're obviously not going to be as diligent on the social distancing because you know, I know what, I mean, I know I would.

And I'd be like, hey, well, you know, I'm good. I'm never going to get it again. So I can kind of do whatever hell I want now. but, you know, like you said, props to him, and, man, I'm not 100% sure if we don't throw a bunch of tests around that garage, we wouldn't be pretty surprised with the results. But like you said, one, you're asymptomatic. You have no idea that you have it. You know what I mean? It's just we see this across all these sports right now, what it was, 70-something baseball players or something like that the other day.

All these basketball players, again, the guys are bailing out of their seasons. Like, it was only a matter of time before it got to us. It's just amazing that, of course, it has to happen probably to the biggest name in our sport. but you know this is a strand of the flu and and look tons of people millions of millions of people get the flu every year and a small percentage don't make it this is the statistically this is turning out to be very similar to what any other major bad flu would do i uh you know i got to be racing as long as we've been back racing and to have as few problems or people you know um that to me that goes credit to nascar and the people involved in it the people that are traveling the people that

doing their part. We've had very few issues. And we've been racing for what? How many months we've been race for? Two months more. More than that, right? Yeah. And this is the first driver.

We've obviously had a couple little outbreaks in the shop or whatever, but there's hundreds of people in these shops. You know, that just, to me, that shows that NASCAR did. What a great job from the start to not have any issues for a long time. What scares me about this thing isn't the things. that we know. It's the things that we don't know because flu season lasts for a few months. This thing's been going on for seven months. I mean, that's when it, you know. And we don't know when it got here because we didn't even have tests for it when it got here.

Imagine going to the doctor and you've already got it. And they check you for everything. And they're like, oh, we don't know what you got. Go back home and rest for a week. You know, I don't know. The unknown is what's a scary part. I have friends that thought they had it had it late last year. Yeah. Thought they had the flu or whatever, but now they think they had that. I mean, you never know. but yeah but you know you know credit to jimmy and nascar for everybody for handling it really well and

and uh quickly swiftly it's just it's a it's a you know hard situation to stomach because if jimmy johnson has any other disease or any other sickness right now and he's up to racing guess what he's allowed to race this is the only thing that could keep him out of a race car and it kept him out of a race car. So now his points are going to go, bloop, blup, he's going to be out of the playoff, most likely after the end of this race this weekend. I guess if he comes up with two or three negative tests, he gets to get back in the car. But if he doesn't, he's going to potentially and probably be completely out of the playoffs. And I mean, when you look at a seven-time champion, when you look at all the wins,

I think he's got 84 wins, all the accomplishments, all the rings to that point. Like, what a terrible way to end this guy's last season. He has to sit out for two months for a pandemic. Now he's sitting out for two weeks because he actually has the, the virus. I just hate that for him because he's such a great guy, such a great ambassador for the sport. And he's, and he's so accomplished. Like, what a shit way to go out. I mean, and if it's the, and if it's the 14 days, say that, you know, like, if this is just starting, he's got this 14 day period, he's going to miss the All-Star race.

I mean, how we're going to have an All-Star race without Jimmy Johnson in it, you know, in his last season, you know, all the pagery that comes with that, and now, you know, he's not going to be able to run maybe. That would, that would really suck. I mean, I felt bad for him the other day, man. The biggest all-star, arguably, in that. car history behind Richard Petty to learn hard. Sucks. Hope he gets better.

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if you're going to get a tire that's going to stay together or not. T.J. T.J. Casey just said she doesn't have any money to spend. I know. She drives a brand new Audi. I know. Chad boat racing is winning every race out there in Sprint Car World right now. But Casey's broke. She's having a baby. She goes on vacations at these elite resorts where you and I can't even,

We can't even get in. We can't even get there. We can't get through the gate at these places, but Casey doesn't have any money? You are. Jason, can you cut all of this out? Absolutely not. We're just going to bring it up again. We're going to bring it up so many more times.

It's not going to have time to cut it all out. Sorry, sorry I interrupted Casey. T.J. Denny Hamlet said tires on Sunday were like roulette. Or as Casey likes to say roule. Casey likes to call this the rouleigh. Yeah. Hey, guys, is this word roulette or roulette? Jesus.

I hate you. I'm sorry. I'm tired. What college did you go to again? I don't sleep. We're about to mess up there. It's not a word does I say very often in my meetings. I'm sorry.

Where do you? Where did you go to college? Okay. She's pissed. No matter what, I'm going to lose this argument. Spot on, spot off, TJ. Was taking tires like playing rouleague yesterday. I don't know, man.

I didn't see what the outcome of the tires were. I know they were wearing. I know they were wearing out. You know, we had a, I know we were told one time that we had a left front that was wore out pretty good. So I don't know if these were, I mean, they were fast, man. Like, I don't know. I mean, I don't know any data about the tires or whatever. I know they were hard and you could stay out, but they would also, you could run them down.

You know, it might have been, you might have had, just wore the tire out. You know, you get to the cords. What's under the cores? You're going to, you're air. Exactly. But we did have a lot of tire issues yesterday, and I don't know how many laps were on each of them when they blew or what those guys were doing with it, so I'm not 100% sure.

I mean, obviously you've seen last night, Good Year made a statement kind of putting it on the teams, but, you know, we had a left front, same thing. I think it was the first run of the race. We had a left front that was absolutely killed. Green racetrack now, too. Yeah, and a big thing, you know, normally we get there, the cup cars run after the Indie,

I mean, after the Xfinity race, where there's no Xfinity race, so there's no rubber on the racetrack whatsoever. But, you know, tough break for Danny. I mean, he's got the race won. But, I mean, man, them guys blowing tires. Those hits were sickening. You can hear him. I mean, and Goodyear's got a tough job, man.

We went out to dinner with Clint last year at Pocono. And, you know, he said this is like one of the first times he can remember being uncomfortable. Like, he's carrying so much speed through the tunnel turn wide open. that he's like if this tire blows out like there's a good chance i'm getting hurt you know what i mean and it takes a lot for a guy like clint to say that so you know the good year's got a tough job to manage these loads and and get everything right and if the teams are going to push the limits on air pressure or camber you know it's only going to make their job harder but you know i mean it is what is but you see so many issues yesterday and a tire that doesn't even wear out you know the tire didn't

wear out it just you know gave up blew out you know it didn't give up speed yeah it just wore out It just wore out. Yeah. Yeah. But it expired. Yeah. I mean, I think, you know, I'm spot on for Denny Hamlin and Eric Jones. And to me, to some extent, Alex Bowman, too, all these guys for walking away.

I think Dale Earnhardt saved all their lives. I tweeted that last night. I don't think that any of those guys survived that impact 20 years ago. And here's why this package were wide open. And you couldn't go any faster in this particular package and hit a wall head on than what those guys did yesterday. They're burping the throttle. They're back wide open. And the wall is 15 feet from where they're at.

So there's no opportunity to slow the car down between the time you have the tire failure and the time that you make contact with the wall. The angles of those hits were vicious. The sound when they hit was vicious. The aftermath of being on fire is scary. And you're praying. You see that window net drop. And thank you.

Thank you that we did. I think my struggle with this is not to put any weight of this on the team or a good year, but to ask the question of, why did I put on two sets of tires yesterday and have a vibration? Why did the 10 car have to pit under Green early in the race? Because he put on a set of tires and had a vibration. I don't know if you guys experienced that at all. But there's clearly some inconsistencies across this batch. If we're not making changes to the car, I mean, Clint said, hey, the car's fine.

You know, let's put tires on and see where this thing goes. I got a vibration. Well, we didn't do air pressure, we didn't do wedge, we didn't do track bar. And look, all those things also tell me that this tire is very sensitive. Because if we can go out there and you run 40 laps or 30 laps and you're fine, the next time you run 20 laps and you blow a tire, like your one change obviously could have impacted when that tire was going to expire. So I just have questions and we won't ever get answers.

But why am I vibrating and why does some of them expire on the sun? Like Denny Hamlin is clearly, you know, Freddie told me last night, he had been having some wear issues throughout the day and that Roddy Childers told Harvick, you know, push him, push him hard as you can. And it's unfortunate then he lost the race that way. But fortunately, he's okay because that could have went either way. It's the first thing you look for, though, is whenever these guys crash, we're always looking at the window net to see if them guys drop.

That's the first thing I was looking at when all these guys wrecked was to see when they would drop the window net. So, you know, that just goes a long way to how safe these cars really are, because those guys pound the defense, man. You could feel it. If you're looking down the front stretch when Denny hit, I was looking down the front stretch still, and I heard it hit, and I was like, oh, I knew what happened. Jamie McMurray and I chat a lot about the races over the course of the weekend,

and I love his perspective on TV. He called me this morning, and he said, could you hear the hit? I said, man, you can feel it almost. These cars are coming underneath us. They're a few stories beneath us. They're wide open, so they're super loud, and you can still hear him hit the wall. That's how hard he hit.

That spot we had yesterday, man what a great race what a great place to watch a race what a completely terrible place to spot a race oh my god that was when the field went underneath us for the first time i was like holy cow we're close right here tj my heart rate went like if it were the last lap of the Daytona 500 because i was so unsure of how i was going to be able to do my job all day i mean when they were coming around on the pace laps i was like man i'm in trouble here like i'm i'm not i wish i had a little like a little electric shocker thing that i could any guy that went 3 wide with your car down on turn one and you couldn't call on time i just wanted to zap that guy like get a don't do that to me right here get out of that spot and you couldn't tell

you can't tell like clint was trying to pass us and and i knew he'd poke out and it's annoying because you don't really know how close he is and i saw him swerving over i'm like ah he's like half a car length maybe not i but i would just tell bub like i told the beginning i'm like hey like until you get probably at least past start finish line or probably even further than that like i got no idea so there times like I'd see somebody pull out and I'm like I they're out of line I don't know he's like man he's he's too back I'm like I don't I'm telling you I have no idea the debt perception I have no idea where he's at like those guys have to spot the Indy 500 with that angle I don't know how they do it I'm gonna tell you how they do it they can't because those cars are going even faster yeah

like that is Freddy's point the best place to watch a race in indie we had it the best worst place to spot a race we had that too I think the indie car spotters are actually on the roof though yeah but I mean we were we and him were sitting I looked over and that that That spot was only maybe five or ten feet. Like, I told him last night, I said, if there was a wreck off a turn two, we all would have been. Oh, you wouldn't know where you're going. Because they'd been behind that building, whatever, the museum over there. Like, there's like a little blind spot there where there's a museum off in the infield in turn two.

And like the cars would drive behind it for, I don't know, 5, 10 car lengths. What a perfect segue for our next topic. Well, where exactly was it? Was it right off turn one? No, right in turn one. Like right when you lift or right as you turn off the long as you turn off the long as you turn off. wall and get to the like between the wall and get to the bottom yeah we were like yeah entry of one is where we were and you could see down the front stretch and it looked like it was 13 miles long and then you

could see turn one really well but they're right underneath you so if you're watching your car navigating your car through traffic and there's a wreck right in front of you you're going to have no warning to tell them because your eyes can only look at one your peripheral vision in that spot we were in was really limited and then coming off a two we had a good angle for a hot second and then we had a view of the museum. I had a hot, a good angle of you getting shipped up the hill. Yeah, Chase Elliott.

I don't know who, I don't know who was a fault, cleaner chase, but last lap, we got punting. Thanks, Chase. It was right behind me. I was like,

sweet. I'm about to be Team Team TJ on this whole Chase thing. Speaking of spotting. Spot on, spot off. Pit Road pile up. Freddy. Man,

what a shit show this was. Like, luckily, we were, We were decent. I don't know where we were running at the time, like 10th or 11th or so. So we were in front of it, but. Normally, you'd have been.

I would have been right there. Like, that was my, that's my normal running group right there, you know. Boys, man. So, I mean, it was hard to tell where it really started. Like, the video I watched, the 34 is pulling into his box. And it's, this, listen, this pit road is tough. Like, it's narrow. You got to slow way down to get in your box sometimes.

So that's what causes this. These guys slow down to get in their box. And the guy behind him doesn't realize, he's looking at his dashboard. You don't realize these guys, These guys aren't just staring out the window with the car in front of them. They're looking at the dash, making sure they're not speeding. So, I mean, 34 looked like he pulled up all over, you know, he pulled over or slowed down to pull over. And it was just a complete chain reaction.

And then the chain reaction, two guys got offline with each other. And I think it was Ricky that actually hooked Ryan, his teammate, and turned the two of them. And he was getting pushed from behind two. So it wasn't Ricky's fault. But, you know, just chain reaction deal. And obviously, if we're on the pagoda, listen, we wrecked there last year. We wrecked big there last year. But I don't think you'd have the 48, the 15 piling in if we're up there.

You know what I mean? I think that wreck probably still happens because it happened last year. We had a huge wreck last year with Chase Elliott and Stenhouse again. Maybe it's Ricky. Maybe we've got to talk to Ricky about Ped Road there. But, you know, the initial wreck probably still happens no matter what. But them guys piling in late. And I'll give Justin Allgaier credit.

I mean, you watch the video and he's going. going way too fast. I don't know what the hell he was doing. But, you know, he gets to the left lane and he's just, he's hauling ass. But at the same time, he turns right into a car to avoid hitting one of Blaney's crew members, which unfortunately, Brennan Pool, I don't know if he was sliding tires or what. He, I mean, he could have cleaned. Luckily, that guy jumped on the roof of that car or else he'd been in bad shape today. But, but, you know, credit to Justin for, I mean, he screwed up and he was going way too fast at that point, but he did hang her right and drive into the side of Corey or Ryan or whoever it was to avoid hitting a crew member.

Yeah, I don't think the severity of it's as bad. You can get messages delayed. We can't. There's zero chance any spotter was able to tell anybody was checking up before the wreck was already done. No. I mean, you had cars sitting broadside with the, you know, water from the radiator spraying out before we could tell them,

hey, there's a wreck in front of you. I mean, it was already happening and there's nothing you could do. So from the pagoda, you could definitely, you're right above it. I mean, you know, you could have seen somebody checking But it only takes one person to check up. We leave this parking lot, you know, a nose of tail here, and I slam on the brakes real quick.

We're all going to hit. And pit road, they're running three feet off each other already. So it's only one little slip-up, and everybody's hitting each other. And it's one of the faster pit roads we have, too. I mean, they're running 55 miles an hour, which reads they're really running 60. So, you know, it's a faster, narrow pit road to where you have to, and the boxes are tight, man. They're not built for cup cars. You know, they're narrow.

Yeah, they're narrow. So it's just a, it's a tough. off pit road and we see it happen a lot. I'm spot on for the guy being okay because that's a very scary situation and and for us man when we hear red flag and we see ambulance is coming out we know it's because a person is injured and we don't know to what extent spot off once again for our spotter stand location because all we want to be the reason we are at the racetrack per NASCAR is to be a safety device and in that situation we were completely useless. We couldn't do anything to help that crew member. We couldn't do anything to help those race cars that got torn up.

And we just had to sit there and watch the aftermath playoff. But I'm going to tell you something else, people. Spot on to the balls that these tire changers and Jackman have because their backs are to all of this happening. And they're doing their job and doing it extremely well. And we now know or we did, we already knew, we are reminded of the risk that these guys take every single time they jump over the wall. And these guys go out there and they make a really good living. And when you see things like this play out, they deserve it. Because holy cow, that guy's whole, look, I mean, that could have been really, really bad.

That could have been a fatal accident. I mean, we're talking about a 3,000-pound race car going 50 miles an hour, colliding with an individual. You know, it's certainly exciting to watch, but it's also hats off to those guys for their balls, man. Because, wow, that's freaking scary. The guy that jumps on the car, he literally just glances up for a quick second. He must have heard the wreck start. He must have heard it.

He glances up real quick and then he just leaps on top of the car. And that's the other thing. I think as spotters we need to adjust or talk about, right? If we're spotting the 15 car or the 48 car as spotters, we're going to be saying, check up, check up, check up, check up, check up. We're going to tell them what's going on. We couldn't see what was going on. The second thing is, if I'm Ryan Blaney's spotter, I'm going to be screaming to my crew guys, get up and run, get up and run. Like you look back at that scenario and none of that information got relayed and it didn't get relayed because of where we were.

A checkup one and a half, two seconds before it actually happens, before the wreck happens is a huge difference in mile per hour wise. Typically in those situations on the racetrack, I'm not talking about on pit road, but on the racetrack, when the first car checks up in tight racing like Bristol like Martinsville, the fifth car in line takes the grunt of it. You know, if the spotter and if the drivers aren't informed. So if you got a spotter up there, they didn't say anything, which I'm telling you right now, it didn't look like they were getting any information. And I know why, because where we were at sucked. But that fourth and fifth guy in line is the guy who was going the fastest, because Justin and the 15 jump out of line instead of checking up to try to keep going.

And then they get there and it's like, uh-oh, pit road's block, we're in trouble. Yeah. I mean, I could not believe, one, how many cars were just torn up. And then how bad they were torn up. Like the 19 was destroyed, 47 was destroyed. I mean, the 17, I mean, there was a bunch of good cars that were, I mean, for going 60 miles an hour, they were destroyed. Yeah. Glad he's okay.

Yeah. Thank God. Agreed. Hopefully that was the last time that happened. I'm going to go outside. Let me just, let's tell you, let's tell you this. Like, go outside to your car and just practice jumping from the ground onto the roof if you want to be impressed with something. Because this guy was standing on the ground and just jumped on the roof of a car in a split second.

And, I mean, I'm telling you, it could have saved his life. But, I mean, it was incredible. Save mine because I can't jump the high. I would have jumped in the window. Hey, Ryan, I'm in. Solid chance I'm taking on the shin. I pretty much see Freddy as going like this. I would be like that cartoon where the guy hits the Marvel movie where the guy gets hit by a truck and the truck's destroyed.

Freddie would have better odds laying down. Yeah. Freddie would have destroyed that car. You want to see a direct race car. That would hit me on Good Road. That 15 would have bounced off Freddy so far. Probably shot him back on the racetrack. All right.

Next topic. Kevin Harvick says, I would never vote for the Cups cars to not run on the Indianapolis Oval. Spot on, spot off. If I just won, I'd say that too. No kidding. Just want a brickyard 400, climb the fence, kiss the bricks. Look, we all know the history of this particular racetrack.

I remember when NASCAR went there for the first time, I believe it was 94. you know, watching Jeff Gordon, Dale Earnhardt, Rick Masked, all those guys battle it out. I was actually in a hotel in High Point, North Carolina, going to my buddy Mark Tucker's wedding that particular weekend. And, man, it just, I don't know, it's hard to, it's hard to put into words what it meant to go there and what it used to mean to watch the cars come out through Gasoline Alley. And we would have 150,000 people there for qualifying. it would take two and a half hours to get out of the infield when qualifying was over. And now we go there.

And I mean, I hate to say this because this is me kind of, you know, being a d. But we've been social distancing at Indy. I mean, I'm not trying to be a d'I. I mean, I'm not trying to be. But we've been social distancing at Indy since 2008, since that Goodyear debacle where we had to throw a caution every 10 laps because our company car over there, Dale Jr. couldn't run but 10 laps. Yeah.

In 88 car. So down, you're going to bow a tie? We lost our. we lost our vibe at Indy when that particular year happened and we never got it back. So I don't know, man. I'd love to see us run that road course, but I also know every single kid in America that's growing up a race fan, they want to run on that racetrack. It still has that same meaning, even though it may or may not be as entertaining as it

once was or we may or may not have as many fans as we once did, it's still the brickyard and it's still special to know that in your life you got to compete there. I'll never forget, man. I mean, the first race I spotted there was 2001. Pregoda was pretty new. You climb up top of there, and there was 250,000,000 people there. And it was insane. And just like, man, I'm in a special point of my life and my career

where I get to experience and be a part of something this big. It's still the brickyard, T.J. Yeah, I like the brickyard. I think it's still the brickyard, like you say. I think it's fixable still. I think we just need to... I mean, I look, I was watching some of them races they were playing on the screens,

and I saw Mark Martin and them guys drive to each other's spoiler, and the guy couldn't hold the bottom in front of him, so we worked him up the racetrack, and man, they were having a great race. I mean, Dale Jarrett won that race. He got passed by Mark Martin, I think, and then he passed him back, but they're driving up to each other,

getting each other a little loose and passing each other. I still think we need to unglue these cars, man, make these guys have to wheel it. I mean, they're not in danger of wrecking right then. Like, I watch them guys, they just can't turn the wheel. They've got to go a little slower, which lets the guy behind you make a pass, which is what we need, I think.

I would love to see these guys be able to go work each other off the bottom in the corner. I caught Ty Dillon yesterday, and I lost six-tenths a second of last. Oh, yeah. And it took me a very long time to pass it. Late in that one run, when you guys were struggling, we were all bottlenecked behind you, but you couldn't do anything. Couldn't do anything about it. We could follow you, literally. We could follow you.

You caught me from a half straight away back. We could follow you four feet off your bumper, right on your bumper, all but hitting you, and it does not affect you one bit. Like, we just need to fix. That's the part I think when the air should be a tool to use, not a tool. I mean, it's the opposite of what it used to be. The error used to be something you used to pass a guy. Now is what you use to defend. Now it's a handicap.

Now you use it. We saw that last week and we'll go back to this probably 20,000 more times this year. But the Xfinity race at Pocono, the way that package is, Ross Chastain's out front trying to hold off Brisco. And you can tell he's free. You know, everything is there, he's free. And all Briscoe, Briscoe knew all he needed to do, he's trying to work him clean, work him clean. But he knew all he needed to do one time was running the corner hard and pack air on Ron Ross's back bumper and Ross was done and that's all he did.

When Ross got around him on that green white checker, all he did was driving the tunnel, pack air on Ross and Ross is a sitting duck. We are so gripped up though that when our guys get loose now, it's not like a drive sideways drive out of a loose. It's a big wiggle lift all the way out and the guy's gone. Like you're so, like a slot car. When you jump off

the track, you're done. Yeah, I mean, you could see, like, we were kind of, I think we were catching a 34 at one point and Baxter's like, man, we're a half second better to him, go get it. You know, to me he's like, tell me he's a half second better. I'm like, it doesn't matter. Yeah, you better be a, you better like a second and a half better. We're going to get to the half a second.

Sure enough, the next lap, we, we found the same thing, like 20 back. We ran them down in a lap or two, and then we just rode behind them for the next 10 laps. Just couldn't get around them. You know, there was just no way to build a run. Like we talk about all the time, off throttle time is what makes racing great. And we're wide open yesterday or just burping the throttle. So the corner speeds are up so high that there's nowhere to, there's nowhere to make a move on a guy. You know, there's just nothing you can do.

So, I mean, obviously, you can't be offensive. No. I mean, I'd hate to see it come off the oval. even though the product isn't that great, but like you said, the prestige of these guys, you know, I think Chase Briscoe mentioned it in his interview on Saturday that, you know, I mean, I wish just, you know, it's not the same being on the road course, but it's still pretty big, you know, but just for him to mention that,

you know, that seed is in his head already, you know, that, that, that he wants to win that race. You know, yeah, I mean, obviously he wanted to win that race, but, but you want to, it takes a little bit away, I think, doing it on the road course versus the Oval. And I hate that for that, for them guys, but, like, something's got to be done. You know, whether it's, and obviously, I can't mess with tires a whole lot because we do. We have nothing but tire problems there throughout. Could you imagine the race we could have if we took all the cup guys and put them in the Xfany cars?

I mean, and honestly, I don't know that, I mean, obviously the package is better. But I think if you put the cup guys in the Xfinity cars, the racing is going to be pretty similar. Because a lot of things that make the Xfinity racing great is the fact that those guys don't have experience, don't know where to put themselves all the time. But I think if you load up, you see it. When them guys go run Xfinity racing, is Kyle and Brad and him, they're up front. They're still a hell of a race.

Yeah, but I mean, I've seen Kyle and Brad have some duels, man. Yeah, but they got weapons they can use. You know, hey, Kyle knows if he gets up to Brad's bumper, Brad's going to get loose. Brad knows the same thing. So like you said, though, that series is good because guys make mistakes. Yeah. Like Chase drives off, he throws the race away.

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We're not going to a choose cone. I like that audio, Jason. So is Brett, is Brett wrong? Can I spot on that? We were being sarcastic. I mean, we've said on this show, how many times on this show have we said we need something to happen? I don't know. You sounded pretty serious.

No, I was being serious. Because how many times in this show had we said we need something to happen? A bunch. And then what happened? Nothing. So that's why I was like, we're not going to a choose call. We're not ever going to see it because us, the drivers, everybody has said we're tired of seeing second and third put it at a disadvantage at all these tracks. I mean, you would rather come off pit road at Bristol 8th than 3rd.

That doesn't even make sense. Okay, let me ask you this now that you said that. If you're running 4th, are you going to line up 8th instead of 2nd? If I'm running 4th. Yeah. So you're saying if you say come off here, you'd have to be eighth, then third. Yeah. Are you going to give up?

So if the first four cars or whatever, say one guy's on the bottom and three guys line up top, are you going to line up behind the three up top or you're going to go to the bottom? I'm going to the bottom. I'm going to the bottom. I'm going on the front road every time. Yeah. Because if that guy stumbles or that guy gets loose in the one or whatever, I got a chance to take late. The lane change.

Hey, listen, I'm all for trying stuff. And I think the choose cone is not a bad idea by any means. but it's not going to have the desired effect that these people, I think people honestly think that, oh, the top lane is so much better, the first five guys are going to line up there. And if some guy from eighth is going to pull up and he's going to get the restart in the front row, that's not going to happen. You're not going to gain more than one row here.

I guarantee it. What's going to happen is the leader. Bristol now has even switched back a little bit where I think the leader almost wants to be on the bottom again with that VHT. But, you know, it's going to, the only thing you might see occasionally is the second place guy pick behind the leader. But then the third place guy is just going to go to the front row. The fourth place guy is probably going to go to fourth instead of going fifth and, you know,

being the third car in line. I just don't think track position means way too much to have to put yourself behind more than one row of cars. You know, I don't. But that one row is huge, though. Oh, I understand that. But I'm saying, like, you think a guy, how many positions do you think you're going to gain on a restart?

Maybe two? Yeah, but I mean, if you're for, historically. And I think it changed this year. I mean, Clint could run the bottom really well, as could Amarola. But I mean, historically, if you lined up fourth, you were going to go to second. Yes. If you lined up six, you were going to go to third or fourth. And when you got to fourth, you didn't even want to pass for third because in that next restart,

you'd have a chance to come out second and have a chance to take the lead. Like, I mean, we would manage these situations. I mean, I even remember doing it when Clint was driving that piece of a Harry Scott car. Like, we finished really well in a race because we kept getting that top line on restarts. It's not as dominant now. as it was then. But I think one thing, A, we're not talking about 40 cars making a decision here. We're talking about 16 guys.

And there's one big thing that I think NASCAR came out with last week that I think hurts this deal. And it's the fact that there's not going to be a cone or there's not going to be a something on the racetrack. So now this opens it up to way more. Like if there's a damn box drawn on the racetrack, that's not going to do it. Because there's going to be a guy that can't decide. He's going to drive straight over the box, right?

Now, what latency in? I agree. I agree they need to put something on the racetrack that needs to be whatever side tires, whatever you do, say, and if you don't pick, we're going to decide for you. You have to have some kind of marker out there that makes you go around it. Why would you do that?

We want this to be confusing as possible. I mean, I will say, though, back to the Cone deal, though, at least you get to choose your own fate. And you can't be mad at where you don't, now it doesn't really matter. You don't know you're not going to count cars off pit road as much anymore. Now, look, man, if that guy wants to go up to the third place and set a certain sixth, oh yeah, then do it. I'm all for it. I just, I want people to manage their expectations.

But like you said, the biggest thing that this cone rule, a cone, choose cone deal is going to affect is pit road, because you're going to want to be as far up forward as you can because that makes it your decision. But, you know, I just want people to temper their expectations because there's not going to be a guy that gains five rows on a restart or something like that. You know, This is, I don't see just a more fair system overall. It's a more fair system. It's not to create, it's going to create a few fireworks. So let me ask you this.

You might have a guy that goes in the front row. You're, you just watched, we just raced at Bristol. Okay. Yep, I know. All right. First place, first place he picks. Thanks for bringing that up. First place he picks.

Second place, he picks the front row. No matter which way first place goes. All right. So you got, the front row is now occupied. Your third. What are you taking? Oh, I'm going outside lane. So now fourth is screwed.

If he goes to the bottom, potentially. So now he's got a chance to stay up. Like, I think that's where you see third, fourth, and fifth to me are the guys that have to make. The big critical decision. The critical decision that's going to set them up to win the race. But those are also the guys that if you're on the bottom and your fifth, you're coming off there in ninth or tenth. It's a huge loss at that point. I bet if you go back to the second to fourth row, the inside cars, take a substantial loss compared to the outside cars.

Yeah. If that bottom row doesn't really get hooked up and anticipate the restart well, if the outside The guy never rolls on the bottom. Never. Never takes off good. Unless he's a leader and he gets a really good jump. But even then, it doesn't seem like they get the jump that they should. I don't disagree with you.

I just can't see anybody. Listen, I could be 100% wrong, but I can't see a guy willing to go from starting third or fourth to starting 10th. So let me ask you this. If you're third, if you're third, where are you picking? If I'm third, I'm picking probably whatever lane in a leader pick. All right, exactly, because you're going to get the timing of that potentially. All right, but let's just say the leader took the top, you took top. Now you're fourth.

Where are you picking? I'm taking the bottom. You're taking the bottom. Honestly, it's going to matter that too, though. You're going to look at what cars were really good. Like, we were really good on the bottom, and then we passed Chase on the bottom. If I'm Chase Elliott, I don't give Joey the bottom. There's just saying mama used to have, you made your own bed boy go lay in it.

Hey, we've taken this out of NASCAR's hands for this particular race. We put it in the hands of our drivers. Oh, by the way, mine hates to make decisions. I can't wait to be a part of this. And here we get, I mean, Chase made one for him yesterday. It's something to talk about, man. It's something to try.

And we'll see how it goes. And this is our race. This is our experimental race. You know what I mean? This is when we try stuff, this is where we do it at. So, hey. I mean, how cool was it going to be if the top three take the, take the outside, fourth place rolls up here and takes the bottom,

Doors first place up out of the way and wins the race. I mean, how cool with that. I mean, that would be awesome. I just don't think it's going to happen. Yeah, could just, what's say? I think old Bristol, where there was no VHT and that top lane was dominant, you'd see a lot more shakeup. But the lanes are too even now.

And there's going to be places. I mean, if this catches on and they take it to places, there's mile and a half. Last race was definitely more even. Yeah. I mean, oh, yeah, for sure. But, I mean, this could catch on bigger at some of these mile and a half. You know, a place like Texas.

I mean, the bottom is huge at Texas. You might see a place where a couple guys line up on the bottom there. But I still, you know, I just can't see a guy giving up more than two or three spots. I'll tell you the reason I like this. choose cone deal is because me and me and joel you'll talk he's he's very calculated guy and we'll talk and i feel like this gives we prepare so much for these races like that i feel like this helps give us an advantage you know somebody um to science this out man like what do you want to do here and it's going to it's going to take preparation to be prepared for these scenarios um look if you're

third where are you going to go if they go there like you're going to talk through these things and have a plan together because if you roll up there and well just roll with it i mean you could cost you the race. Let's think forward on this. All right, now you're at Talladega and you got to choose Cohn. I'm looking for the teammates. That's exactly right. If you do this, you can't do it at certain tracks.

You're going to have to do it everywhere to make it fair. You can't just go, we're only going to do it here, which hell that means we'll probably only do it at one place. But if you get to Talladega, you get to Daytona, you get to something, Michigan. Like, you get to some of these places, you literally, all you're looking for is your teammates. Yeah. But just, okay, at least you get to make the decision. You're not being put at a disadvantage automatically, which is what I'm looking for.

Like I said, I'm good with that. I was fine with that. I'd like to see the world outlaw rule where it's just, you know, the odds line up in the same line as the leader. But that's still, that could still, you still play games on pit road. So what are we calling this? The choose zone? Well, that's my biggest thing. Like, I mean, I think it's going to be the choose zone.

I think it's going to be a big mistake if they don't put something on the race. track that you have to split around because guys are going to change like if there's you know if there's if there's if there's not something there these guys are going to manipulate this deal yeah yeah you need it needs to be like the commitment line and hey i hate to say this cone but this is bristol things happen really fast if we give one to go and they're not picking until start finish we run the odds of this getting real screwed up we need to give two to go and at two to go they choose that's what most so that we get the lineup right because there's all too often let me tell you guys something when we spotters here one to go when drivers here

one to go we're in go mode and then halfway down the back stretch coming back to the green they start barking out lineup rules you're like whoa I don't have time to do all this you have about six or seven seconds to get that completed so you got to tell your driver expect him to listen immediately and make a quick decision

when he may not agree with a call and that's pending the other guy here is the same thing and we'll let you get to where you need to go which is very doesn't happen that clip it's it can't make lineup changes after one ago we need to go We need to go to. We need to have a two to go, start your line-up deal. I mean, what are we talking? 40 seconds?

Yeah, especially at short track. Short track. Half the time they hold the one to go anyway, you run an extra lap. Just run the extra lap. Fix it. Yeah. It's not a huge track. Brett, I sent a tweet in the group meet. Can you please translate Clint Boyer's latest tweet? Oh, God. Clump Warriors' latest tweet? Why do I have 27?

Mu-Ha. J.J. Joan. What? Oh, boy. I don't think that's Clint. I thought Brett may be able to translate it. I'm pretty sure Cash has his phone. What the heck? He said, I'll be damn.

Not a bad tweet from mowing with my phone in my pocket. He said, I made some serious phone calls as well. He ass-diles me more than anybody else in America. Like, it is, if he calls you and you hang up in about three minutes later, he's going to call you again. And as you can imagine, you only know, you can't imagine what the background noise is going to be because it's Clint. but he is the king of Ask Dalyan. Time to hit the gas and take our Xfinity speed from the track to the studio. Let's jump into our weekly Xfinity Fast Lane segment where each person will have 10 seconds to answer six questions.

First question, Austin Cindrick was penalized for jumping a restart midway through Saturday's Xfinity Series race and called the penalty unjustified. Was NASCAR right or wrong for making this call, T.J. I wonder where T.J is going to go with this one. I mean, it's who fires first. Austin fired first. Wow. Holy. What the hell are he just saying?

He hit the throttle first, but... Jason, record this. He thought the 98 was going. Replay it back. He thought the 98 was going because the 98 got hit from behind and he went off of that. So there's, I mean, kind of a raw deal. So there was a lot of factors to this. The 18's pushing to 22, but 22 does fire first and the 98 does a very, very good job of

selling the fact that the 22, five. fired first on him because he sat there and waited and waited and made it look worse than it was. They got this call 100% right. Sendrick fired first. You're black flagged. Sorry, dude. Rodney Childers tweeted last week after the cup indie qualifying draw that I'm definitely over this draw BS. Should NASCAR continue drawing the lineup or determine it differently?

Brett? Shake it up, man. I mean, I'm 13th in points, so now I can't start any better than 13. The guy that's three points ahead of me can start on the pole. I don't know. I can't reason with that. I don't understand how that's possible. But stop this for a second.

Rodney Childers is building a Hall of Fame career. I mean, he and he and Kevin Harvick are the Chad Canals, Jimmy Johnson, and have been really since they got to Stuart Hoss together. I mean, you look at Harvick's career, he was already an accomplished guy. Rodney was already an accomplished crew chief. He had won the guys, even like David Ruderman in big races like a Coke 600. This guy's building a Hall of Fame career. Shout out to him for, I think, 30 wins as a crew chief for something.

I mean, dude, he've won like half the races we've done this. I think I would just be happy with it. What's he won? Five, Jason? He's won a ton, yeah. Four. Okay, I mean, that's four more than I've won, so, man, I chill, Rodney. Yeah, I mean, points have never mattered this much at this point in the year.

Like Brett said, the difference between 12th and 13th is huge. 24th and 25th is huge. I mean, you got guys that are starting 30th, you know, 35th that are 25th and points, you know, decent guys, but you can't be on the other side of that cut line. Can you ever listen to the dinger? You guys hear it now. You have no excuse. What dingers?

Definitely hear Jason's dinger. Question three. Now almost two months into racing without practice or qualifying. Hamlin and Harvick have won seven of 12 races. Is this format favoring veteran drivers and will it continue doing so until practice returns. Freddie. Well, I think me and T.J. both said that this was going to affect Harvick. He was going to be one of the ones that benefited from the most. But you see young guys like John Hunter, Bubba, Reddick, them guys are excelling too right now. So it's not just a veteran thing.

It's just people are hitting on it right. It's just strange watching Kyle Bush struggle a lot and Denny Hamlin not. I think the best teams are building the fastest cars right now with no practice. And I think that speaks to the team. Yeah. Fast cars go fast. They've hit on something and they're running it and it's working at these big tracks. You know, we go to another short track or a different type of track. These things are going to be a little bit different again. But fast cars go fast. Pocono, Indy, really similar race tracks. Guess who's fast? Two cars leading in the end of Pocono race. Two cars leading in any race. If you think Rodney Childers tweet back to the last thing, didn't have a... He did that for... He didn't do that to gripe about where he's starting. He did that to put NASCAR in a position. have to react. He made it public that he's got a problem with this for NASCAR. He didn't do that for

for for a to have a good tweet. It's not your turn anymore. I don't care. I want people to understand why Rodney Children did this. He didn't do this to have a tweet and to get fan engagement. This guy's not a company. He's a crew chief. He did that. He did that's what he wants. I don't know what he wants to start better. He wants to start by points. He's on a poll every week and really makes the races suck. I don't know why. That ain't going to happen. Question number four. Drivers including Michael McDowell, Bubba Wallace, Cole Custer, John Hennonimichek, among others, have been posting surprise top 10 finishes. Which driver has surprised you the most through 16 races in 2020? T.J.

I go with John Hunter. Ready? Yeah, I mean, John Hunter for me, them front row cars have had a little more speed this year. McDowell has been good. He's got a couple top tens of last week, so obviously I'd like to say my own guy, but I'll refrain from going full TJ here. I'll just pick John Hunter. Yeah, hands down, it's John Hunter. I mean, you know, Cole Custer got his first top five of the year yesterday.

We've not even seen him run in the top 10 very much. So a surprise there, but a bad surprise for Cole. So good to see him get some momentum. But John Hunter, man, wow. If he's not turning heads right now, I don't know that he ever will. In 2015, NASCAR successfully experimented with a low downforce package at Kentucky that ultimately set the 2016 cup arrow package. If you were to again make Kentucky an experiment on Sunday,

what rules package changes would you make? Brett. Same one we always talk about. Give them the horse power, take the downforce away. I'm going to fill that tunnel full of concrete if I'm making a rule change in Kentucky. That way we can't get in there. Which one?

Is it drive in or walk in? Both. All of them. T.J. I'd like the rolls package where the escalator works all weekend. And elevator. And elevator.

I mean, I think we need to go fast, but we need to go slow in the corners. The guys need to drive these things through the corners. Give them the horsepower. Take the downforce away. Soft tires. We beat a dead horse on this show about this every week. You bring a horse costume. Lay down and we'll kick you every week.

Take the down force away, make the tires wear out. And the racing will be way better. We want close racing according to the pole. Oh, yeah. Do you want to see a guy to get passed for the lead or not get past for the lead? I'll take option A, please.

A new car. I mean, reading them, I felt stupid of reading those questions. I was like, I don't even know how. Stupid or ain't a word. Yeah, Freda, that's not a word. You're making me stupid about this. You can both kiss my ass.

Freddy is one of the guys that doesn't put the apostrophe in your, for you are. Oh, no. Or ask. Ask. Axe. Frank was talking about axing on the radio. I got to ask you something.

I got to ask you a stupider question, Freddie. Oh, off-the-wall question. After the annual Nathan's hot dog eating contest on Saturday, if you were a competitive eater, what would be your food of choice? Freddie. Tito's vodka. I think I can win a couple competitions on that.

Remember, alcohol's not a food. You went over a little breath. There's grains in there, I think. I don't know. I have no idea. What's fair? The best, my favorite thing was watching Brett watches hotthog contest last night. I thought he was going to throw up.

I can't watch that. I got vomited. I was enjoying a nice ice cold beer at Big Al's here in Moresville, North Carolina, home of the Sunday night fun night. And Freddie's like, turn out and watch this guy. And I turn out looking. He's got sweating and tears and he's gagging. And I'm like, ugh, I almost vomited. If I'm going to eat something, it's going to be a chicken wing.

Let me tell you something. I'm a chicken wing eating machine. How many chicken wings do you think you could eat? In 10 minutes. No, just in general. Before you throw up. I want to enjoy them, Jason. I don't know.

I don't know. 40? 60? 40 wings. I mean, if there's no time limit, you can eat as many as you want. Yeah, I mean, during a whole football game, you could eat. I mean, I tell you what I ate a damn tray of is in chicken nuggets from chick filet. Like, you bring in a party platter? I'm like, huh?

Thanks. Thanks for bringing me this. Dylan, did you ever go to Spices? Yeah. Oh, like the Spicey's chicken, it's unbelievable. And it was on Long Island. There's two locations. And it just, you got like a 50-piece bucket.

And like, we used to do this for Sunday. Like me and John, we would get a bucket. And I'm like, one bucket's got 50 wings and that'd be plenty. Like half time, you're like, are them wings gone? I mean. No, man, I couldn't tell. Yeah. TJ, what are you eating?

I mean, Chicken wings are good, but I don't feel like that's something you can eat a whole bunch of, man. Yeah, my chicken wings. I like pasta, man. I mean, it's hard for me to stop eating, like, go to Portofino or something, get the chicken Alfredo or a spaghetti or something. It's hard to, like, not clean your plate. Like, they almost give you way too much because you sit there and eat until you can't, yeah. Full as a tick.

That's how we felt leaving San Diego's the other night. We just kept eating, eating and eating. Hey, I might have held us up a little bit, but Xfinity is always super fast. We're almost at the end of this show. That went by way, way, way too fast, DJ. Almost as fast as Xfinity Internet. Get reliably fast speeds for all your streaming needs. Shout out to Xfinity, premier partner of NASCAR, and a wonderful partner to our podcast.

And make sure you're following at Xfinity Racing on Twitter to keep you connected with behind-the-scenes NASCAR content. You don't get anywhere else. BBC. Send in your questions 24-7 on Twitter using the hashtag AskDBC. Ask away, Casey. First topic is from Beaville underscore 55. While watching the Xfinity Series race, they talked about having a second spotter. What goes into picking a second spotter, and is it someone the driver knows or someone you recommend? How about T.J?

Depends on the team you're with, whether or that you're with. they want to get somebody or they want to put a truck driver up there. We're in kind of a hard time right now, so it's hard to get people, you know, license and stuff and in on rosters and stuff like that. So you try to get somebody that has experience because at the end of the day, one bad corner can ruin your race and destroy your race car. And you're talking about hundreds of thousands of dollars being thrown down the drain here with a race car getting to the racetrack, might need that car again.

there's a lot that goes into it. So you try to get people, at least I do, to have experience. And I don't know, these are, it doesn't matter even at the back. Johnny Davis's cars,

they're still important to him. So you're better off getting people that understand and can see things happen before they happen. Like, we can see things coming that you can tell your driver

but like, hey, be careful up here, get ready to check up, you know, okay, they're spinning or funny, you go out, you know,

it's one quick decision that you know is getting ready to happy. can save $100,000 for an owner. I think it depends on where we're at and what the responsibility is going to be. When I look at Indy and the pagoda the way we used to spot it, the only thing that I did not spot at the racetrack based on where I was able to stand was turn one. And it really meant that you only had one responsibility, and that was the restart.

Because when they come back around after the restart, you know, it's a whole different race and a lot easier to spot. So I actually used Will Aldeburn, wheel, our friend Wheel, for years. And look, he knew how to spot turn one, because that's all he'd ever done. When we would go to Watkins Glen, I would put Will at the bus stop. We'll grow up around racing. And I think that's the key is you've got to have somebody that's grown up around racing. But when we go to places like yesterday, when we were in complete, I literally looked around and I said a spotter, this spotter location is going to affect the outcome of this race.

And the very first time they opened pit road, it did. And so yesterday, you needed a guy that had spotting experience that was confident that was able to clear them. And because if you don't get clear off turn four on those restarts, and Jay Gwarnary helped us did a great job. You can get freight trained. So it depends on where you're at and what response. I mean, look, the roval, if I get up there in turn one, I don't even need a second spotter.

That was your spotter? Your second one? Yeah, Jay. Jay, Gwernary. Yeah, yeah, Jay Gronary. But, I mean, look, it depends on where we're at as to what we need. Yeah, I mean, do you remember? I was laughing as you were talking about Will Spott and Watkins Glenn.

Do you remember the best job Will ever did spotting? No. You don't remember this? When he didn't? He spotted his ass off. He was doing a great job. Like, I spotted a couple races with Elliot and Brett and Will. And Will is calling everything perfect.

He's doing a great job. It was only one problem. He's on Channel 2. He was on Channel 2. What an idiot. I do remember that now you said. I love Will, man. I miss him being around the racetrack.

Channel 2 will get you, man. Especially, like, somebody like that does know to do it all the time. You know, like, but yeah, I don't know where it was. You either poking over the week. week before, my radio hit the fence or something and changed right before a restart. And I, he did, I had nothing on restart. And that's why we listen to ourselves so that we know that happens. And then that freaks you out because you start talking.

You're like, why can't I hear myself? Well, it hit a button and went to like, it went to a system scan. I couldn't even get a bad channel once. So I had to go to my other radio and flip it. I was like spotting from the second radio. It's scary. Will did some of the best spotting and nobody heard it. Maybe you heard it.

Will, I will vouch for him. It was unbelievable. It was so funny. I just remember, and as soon as he, because you can't, like, normally, like, a lot of times, if something's going on, I think you're talking on Channel 1 and something's going on, you can get on Channel 2 and start screaming, like, hey, shut the hell up, you know, drivers trying to talk or whatever. But when Will's spotting on Channel 2, we can't get on the main channel and start yelling at him to stop.

He's listening, Oby. Well, he's listening, but, like, you don't want to be yelling up by screaming. We try to take the same guys with us everywhere we go, though. So, like, Dirty always does the S is for Clint. You know, Will always did the bus stop for Elliott. Like, Chip always did turn 10 for me at Sonoma. Like, but with this pandemic, all those people aren't always there now. So it is different times for sure.

It is. Oh, hell. That's your stomach, ground on? Susan. No, there's so. Pissed off. Hey, Susan. Uh-oh.

Oh, yeah. Susan. Susan. Susan. There's nobody there. Shut up. Okay. I can't wait if you have a baby.

Babies listen just like that. This next question. I hope this all makes the show. Like 100%. Come. I think Chad's wrong. Shut that fuck dog up so we can finish this podcast. Okay, hold on.

Chad. What's up, Chad? Hey, hey, Chad. How are you? Good, brother. What are you doing? Hey, Chad, can you shut that dog up? Six months from now, we'll be going.

Casey, shut that kid. And Casey, your baby's crying. Love you, bye. Aw. Watch a soft porn now on door bumper clear. The hell is going on up there. I don't know. It's like ready for skinny max.

Wait, you got dogs barking. Dogs barking. This is pinkie kissing. Yeah. I know how you got pregnant. If somebody gets on that ladder, I'm leaving. Next question is from stubby 68. Wonder where the midgets are.

They can't see their head. Can't see the midgets. They're at the shop. Oh, what's TJ's version of the Australian trip at Paul Morris Driving School? So there's two separate things here. The Paul Morris Driving School was fine. We actually went to a test session with the real V8 supercars. And they, Australians, I took them to be very smart people, but they let me drive a V8 supercar.

So, TJ, I got to say, I didn't know who Paul Morris was until last week. So who is this guy and what does he do? Paul, there's no way all of our list is there. a retired V8 Supercar driver, I believe he's retired. He, and then he has own teams, him and his dad, um, owns a winery over there. I mean, a fun dude. He's won like all the big races of Bathurst.

He's won the Bathurst 1,000. Um, and if you want to go to Australia, I was told one thing. If you want class, you hang out of Marcus Ambrose. If you want to have a good time, you hang out of Paul Morris. You would hang out of Paul Morris. That's where I'm going. It sounds like, he's on team fun. Paul Morris is a team.

Fund and he's the leader of Team Fund. He's a very fun dude. Really glad we got to meet them. We went over there. He basically showed us the ropes of Australia. Like he took, I mean, took care of us. But he has a driving school that he, with Marcus there. And yeah, so they let us all go there. And we did a, we did a little competition at the driving school. The driving school, we all ran like five laps. And we just did a little competition who ran the best lap. I ran within two tenths of Dale Jr., which I I think it's pretty good for a 7-8-turn road course or something like that. But we go to this test session. We actually went to the test session first.

The test session isn't school cars. School cars, I think, were a little dumbed down a little bit. But we go to this test session, and there's real V8 supercars. There's other guys. It'd be going, like, I was going to a road course test here, and you have, you know, whoever's over there testing their car. Well, they let me get in this thing. And this is, uh, Del June's been out there driving.

And they're like, hey, you want to drive? So I'm like, you know, I can't even get the belts tied. I don't fit in the seat. But I'm like, yeah, I want to drive it. Why wouldn't I? And we go off and I take off pit road and everything's great. They said it was the fastest they ever seen anybody leave pit road. Yeah, I did.

I said a record. And I'm like, hey, this thing feels good. Well, I get the turn two. And turn two is a fourth year corner. And I was the second year. So I'm like, oh, yeah, this thing. This is easy corner. I'm like, whoa.

I'm like, okay, this thing's got, I spun it out right there. Had a lot of power. Get going down the straightaway. And I can't. They don't know this. I didn't tell. It was hard. It was hard to get to the brake pedal all the way out.

You've got to mash these brakes hard. And I couldn't push the brake pedal as hard as I needed to. So I drove in there and I'm like, and I missed a cornerabout. I mean, I had the left out in the grass. It wasn't like I was flipping in the tire barriers or whatever. Yeah. But so it did not go well. So then they're like, hey, you want a ride?

So I get in that car with Dale Jr. And I realized, I didn't know I couldn't press the brakes hard enough then because I get in the car with him. We go into that corner, and I'm like, oh, in the front of it. Like, he's hitting the brake so hard. I'm flying forward in the seat. Like, I'm strapped in, but you can see how hard he's braking in those cars. But those cars have a ridiculous amount of horsepower and not a lot of tire,

and I can vouch for that. But at least I got to go to the school a few days later and redeem myself and at least run somewhat close to it. I mean, J.D. drove it there, Ace. Hovis was the third quick. You know, Hovis. Wow. I know.

They shocked all of us. How was third quick? How much did it screw you up sitting on the other side of the car having a shift with your other hand? 100% you have no idea what you're doing because the pattern is first, top left, second bottom left. It's the same. It's the same. Are you going from it? So it's third, like you come to yourself for third or you go away from the same?

No, you're going to yourself. It's way different than what you're, and you're doing it with your left hand too. So you're like first, okay, what am I going here? I'm going here. Where am I going next? I'm going over here. Like it's not easy. They got, they're now.

sequential like they just have the but man it was uh but great trip um they they have exaggerated a little bit on it um and del junior is probably not ever going to admit to to me to almost me being at a road course deal so you never let the truth stand in the way of a good story no it never no listen Paul Morris is a good story the entire time uh you got listen so like just one of the things that laugh this guy would I mean this is our guy you know if we go to austral this is a guy we're going yeah 100% he said like you might not come back Junior said part of the one of the things that I laughed my ass off is like, hey, I'm taking you guys to a winery tomorrow.

You know, his family owns a winery there. Yeah. And so Jr's like, he's like, I'll fly over here. I'll pick you up in a helicopter. I'll take you over there. So Junior's like, all right, you know, whatever. And he goes to the casino. He's like, hey, I'm going to land my helicopter on your parking deck over there tomorrow,

just so you guys know you, I got to pick him up. Like, this guy is like, hey, by the way, I'm just going to land my helicopter over here in your parking day. And he did. He did. I mean, we're flying all over the, he. He made two trips leaving the winery, take us home. We're flying.

We leave the winery. He goes right to the coast. We're going right down to Surface Paradise in a helicopter, right? I mean, right over the casino of the hotel drops off in the parking neck. We get out. Yeah. I mean, it was almost like there were no rules or anything. But Paul's also like he'll take you to the north country, I guess, or whatever.

I mean, out crocodiles all sort of. I mean, Paul is a fun time. If you go to Australia, you might not come back. That's a good chance I won't. Both of you. You guys should go. Freddie rarely makes it out of Columbia when we go. No, Paul, fun guy.

I like to linger. Believe it or not, I don't have a rant. Hey, I was pretty surprised. I was very concerned when I seen that there were 37 cars piled up the end of the pit road that my boy in the double zero had something to do with it. But look like he'd come through clean. So I was very happy about that. Lap cars were pretty good yesterday.

I don't know. He raced somebody through one one time. And he was all, he was on the inside of him and he chased him. He missed the bottom with a car on the outside. and he ran that guy's door all the way to the wall between middle one and two. And I'm like, there's zero chance they make it off this corner without wrecking, but they did. He probably had a career finish. Yeah, I'm sure he did.

Everybody did. I mean, how about Ross? Ross yesterday run like 18th, 17th to 18th in that 77 car. Yeah. But, yeah, no, I don't think we had. I mean, the spotter stance sucked, but other than that, I don't think we had it. It was hard. We were all on the same boat, though, so I get it.

I will go to an Indy 500 after. that experience that I had yesterday. Would you sit where we were sitting for an indie car race? God, if they hit, they're going to be right where you're at. I mean, we were literally, I felt like I could reach out and high five bub as he drove by it. I mean, I could have thrown anything onto the racetrack that I wanted to right day. I've never been to a racetrack that was as clean as that racetrack is. And to be as old as it is, the seat, it's like every single inch of that place had been pressure-washed.

It was nice. I'm telling you, super nice. We've been to racetracks that are brand new in the second year. they aren't as nice as what indie is now. It is so pristine. That's the first time I've ever been outside of the infield on the property. I mean, obviously we drive through the infield. We do our thing in there. The golf course is beautiful. The garages are nice. That place is immaculate. I will when I stop spotting and cup full time. I will go to an Indy 500. I will not sit in turn one though, though, because I don't have the balls. Thank you for the screens though, too, man.

Yeah. Oh, makes it. Yeah. I was impressed. You guys probably, I went Friday. You guys probably didn't. Did you go Sunday morning? Oh, yeah. Yeah. So I went Friday, and it was impressive to me. We were kind of going around scouting out the spots for the Xfinity race spotters.

So I went up where we were yesterday and marked off a spot for myself on Sunday and Brett, and Roger was up there sitting next to us. And all he was doing was like checking out. They were playing the video screens, and he's just like looking at the angles, making sure everybody's got a good view. So then I shot down to turn four in the oval where I spotted the road course race from. And I'm down there, you know, we're kind of BS. for a little while.

And here comes Roger again. Now he's sitting over there, like, looking at the screens over there. Then you go down and you're hanging out in your car waiting for practice to start, and Roger's in and out of the bathrooms. Him and two guys driving around the golf cart. I mean, they're just looking at the whole facility. I mean, you don't ever see a track on. You might see a track president doing that.

But, I mean, this guy, you can just tell the pride he takes in this place. He genuinely cares about his stuff. Like you said before. The new Victory Lane looked really cool, too. Yeah, I think Victory Lane was pretty neat. Everything Roger does, he does right. so and indie is just another thing like him taking that place over it looks great man it looks and a nice facility goes a long way too yeah so we get we get a good package set up for there again

man it could be great the the road course i thought looks the road course looks phenomenal yeah um i mean first class everything's first yeah and maybe it's always been that way but i'm telling you i was blown away i was too when they when i went down to the bathroom i went down and I'm like, man, this is nice. There's nothing like seeing a clean trough in a men's bathroom. I mean, even the trough was impressive. I mean, everything. You know how hard it is to impress me while I have to go to the bathroom?

It's hard. I was blown away by this thing. Did you see the TV screens on the inside of the stalls? Yeah. I couldn't believe it. You press that button? It was like, whoa. I felt like I was in Vegas.

Well, you guys have high standards. My guy got, did my guy get wrecked yesterday? What happened to Blaney? But Bubba was right behind him and said that Bell got into Blaney and kind of shipped him a little bit. Yeah, I heard he shipped him into the corner. Oh, that was my rant. Did y'all see the 95 come off pit road about 15, 20 car links behind the pace car? That first caution?

No. Drove by the whole field, never even, never said a thing. It was right where the 48 and the 12 were really close to making it. Did you see that? I don't remember the 12. It was right after the wreck all that wreck happened on pit road, and they were coming off there with damage. They barely beat the pace car. pit road 95's way down pit road still comes off pit road

just keeps on going like you know what like i i i'm not attempting to defend nascar here but that's the hardest place to call a race for them oh they can't see because they're having to use they're sitting in a room calling it off of monitors yeah so if the person manning pit road or woman in womaning pit road uh depending on what sex obviously that person is then it could get missed because the tower typically calls that in and says, hey, was that, that's a big, that's a big penalty, though. Yeah. That's like last week, whenever you go backwards up pit road, that's saving yourself a lap. We just submitted two words today, womaning and stupider.

Stupider. Wow, but yeah, so, I mean, I got to miss that. Mother, I don't even know what to do at this point. I almost feel bad for T.J. TJ goes and picks Michael McDowell, the guy runs seventh and he still can't win it. I needed T.J. to win a couple of these damn things, and he just can't step up to the plate. I'm trying to get all the bad ones out of the way. Y'all should know what you're picking.

This is ridiculous. Y'all are taking forever. You're bored. You've all you own twice. Yeah, it would have been done if Susan wasn't ruining it. I'm going to go medium right here. Medium. With a guy.

You better go medium because you ain't got nobody left. He needs some mojo back after potentially wrecking somebody yesterday. Austin Dillon. He wrecked himself. So I go next? I'm going to go with. Eric Amarola. I am going to go with O YRB, Ryan Blaney.

Yeah, I didn't want to use him yet. I can't win, man. You need to win this week. Nah. Who did you pick? Look at my numbers, man. He picked AA. And I'm not even picking bad guys.

Hey, Amaroles have fast cars. I won with Danny Hamlin, and then, I mean, I had Michael McDowley finish his seventh. I picked John Henry finish his eighth, and he was going to win the race. You still can't win either way. I still can't win. matter. Like whatever happens, I feel bad I picked them guys in weeks because John Hunter, I mean, probably would have won Daga. Yeah, I mean, if you go into any race and I tell you, all right, Michael McDowell is going to finish seven today. That would be the race I'm going to

pick them at. And you just got outrun because, yeah, Elmerola is about to run. Well, we're off to Kentucky. Pray for us. Pray that the elevator works. Pray that it, pray that it doesn't rain or lightning. I feel bad. So the three of us are out of this boat, but I feel bad for some of our buddies that have got to be there. They're going Thursday afternoon for two Xfinity races. They've got to go Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday. Yeah, we're all going. I'd like to take a moment for TJ

because he didn't say, I don't know at all the show. I did a couple times. You might have been glitched out. You might have been frozen. Bummer. Let it go. We'll aim for next week. All right.

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So it's obviously fun. We love to see something. I know one thing. We just keep hammering ourselves. It eventually gets done. Yeah. So what does keep it? Just keep it up.

We need 10 o'clock start times. 10 a.m. Let's start the movement. You might not want 10. I don't need to sleep. That's good. I'm fine. If you're going to do that,

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