Door Bumper Clear - 182 - Bernard Pollard: Becoming a NASCAR Fan

Episode Date: July 13, 2020

It’s a big episode as Brett Griffin, T.J. Majors and Freddie Kraft return from Kentucky Speedway to break down the weekend of racing and talk to Super Bowl champion and new NASCAR fan Bernard Pollard. First, the spotting trio discusses Noah Gragson’s right hook on Harrison Burton, Brad Keselowski turning Jimmie Johnson on a late restart and how Cole Custer triumphed in a wild finish. Plus, they explain why Kentucky put on a terrible race, how the traction compound impacted the competition and NASCAR’s inconsistent caution calls. Then, Pollard joins the show and discusses how he became a NASCAR fan, what he has learned so far and how racing can compare to football. Plus, the crew asks him if he’s ready to try a pit stop and take a ride along in a stock car. We also get his reaction to the racing he has witnessed so far, hear stories from his college and professional football playing days and learn more about his life after the NFL. Lastly, the All-Star Race will take place on Wednesday night at Bristol and the guys preview it. They debate whether or not Chase Elliott’s move from June would be legal now with a million dollars on the line, the underglow lights and the new number placement on the cars. Want more DBC? Check out and subscribe to the new DBC YouTube channel! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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app or go to anchor.fm.fm. to get started. That's an C-H-O-R.fm to get started. Hey, what's up, guys? Welcome to Door Bumper Clear presented by Offerpad. I'm Freddie Kraft, and today's Super Bowl champion, a new NASCAR fan, Bernard Pollard joins us.

Plus, we talk Cole Custer winning in a wild finish, Brad Keselowski turning Jimmy Johnson, and Noah Gregson, right-hook, and Harrison Burton. Let's roll. That's TV majors. This is Fred Rittman. Hey, me too now. This is Freddie Kraft.

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Hello. Hello. Clear. All right. Coming to the line. George Bumper. Clear. Hey, everybody. I'm T.J. Majors. Spotter the 22 cup car, did a 9-9 truck, solid P2,

and just making it on time today. Hey, what's up, Brett Griffin, Spotter, Clint Boyer. I've got breaking news. Everybody listen up. We are officially looking for a new producer. Jason Schultz is soon to be relieved of his duties. We had a bourbon gift box. sent to us and Jason managed to lose it only to finally find it today. And somehow another, it ended up on this big-ass table that we got here at Doorbumper Clear.

So to all you listeners out there, if you have, actually, you don't need need experience producing because Jason didn't have any either when he got here. Yes, they did. We're looking for a producer, guys. I mean, what's up, Freddie Craft here, Sputter Bubba Wallace, Derek Krause. What I want to know is we've got, so we've got, I don't know what the hell that is. I guess that's part of the package that got lost. Looks like my dog ate it. Yeah, the guy saying this is 2019 E.H. Taylor, which is, oh, by the way, my favorite bourbon made by Buffalo Trace.

It's barrelproof, 129.7. What do we think happened to whatever was attached to that cork? Because we've got a little mini bottle of Blantons. I don't know. Is that E.H. Taylor? So here's the thing about Blantons. They spell out the word Blanton with these particular horses, right? So if you take the horse, the first one is the horse coming out of the gate. Like, and the horse runs as you get each letter of the collection.

So this is actually a different bourbon. This is E.H. Taylor. Yeah. So you got Blanton's here and E.H. Taylor here. Okay. Where do you think the bottle? In Jason's defense. Jason doesn't have defense.

No defense for Jason. I'm the jury, the prosecutor. Aren't you glad at least found it? Death penalty. You also complained because the show sheet wasn't stapled. So you're a little bit high maintenance for all of our case. So whoever is wanting to be a producer, honestly, you guys should give Jay and props because they have to deal with all of them

every high maintenance host whatever like so high maintenance you complain because they weren't stapled seriously Casey you have to be here to have this rent well I might lose them now I might get out of order and then Jason will be yelling at me because we're out of oh look at this DBC Picks page that looks good see this is the Owen

see this is the Owen Blanton where the guys I guess whipping the horse I took me an hour to figure out that's an O TJ I can't see good anymore up close can you see the O where's your reading glass finger is down here oh yeah see the O you need your reading glasses. What are we going to have? Watercling gets hooked. Yeah.

All right. Casey, Casey, how are you? What's up, Case? I am great. How are you guys? She's so angry already. You can hear in her voice. Casey, how was your shower? I'm not angry. How was your shower? It was nice. Is it weird shower with so many people? You know what my favorite part about Kentucky was?

Leaving. I was going to say, well, I mean, you barely had any time there. What are you talking about? You were there for six hours. I was there for six hours, and it was, I swear, if T. If TJ says that was a good race, I'm going to tweet his phone number out. DJ, was that a good race? Oh, no. It was terrible.

It really was terrible. TJ, was that a good tire? What? No, you could run. They're still running on today. There's nothing good about that race yesterday, except for the finish. T.J. has had a good package at Kentucky.

T.J. Is Kentucky a good race track? I don't know. TJ, do you ever want to go back to Kentucky? The package could be fun there, but you need to have. Listen, if you have tire fall off, it could be good. I ran my fastest lap of the race on like lap 250 of the race, and I had 47 laps on my tires.

Exactly. So there was no tire strategy at all. Like zero, that might have been the least amount of tire strategy that you. You can't get a more exciting finish. But set that finish aside, you can't get a... Let me tell you something. And I hate to say this. It wasn't tires.

I really do hate to say this, and I shouldn't say this, but I'm going to say it anyway. The only people that won yesterday are the people that didn't pay to watch that. Thank God nobody had to pay to come and sit and watch that. Yeah, because, I mean, that whole race, 264 laps of that. 267 for the rest of us. Yeah, 260 maybe, 255 was awful. Like, it was terrible. The most exciting part was turn one and two on restarts, and after that it was...

I wasn't even sure Freddie was in a race. I didn't see you all day yesterday. Yeah, I was busy. We were just kind of keeping eye on everybody. in the back making sure that nobody got away from us. We passed him once. Yeah. I mean, we did not have a good day yesterday.

But, I mean, eventually that was going to happen. Brett blew by me one time because the 15 had the handbrake on the second in the grip in the grip. 15. Yeah. So I'm looking down to the timing and scoring. And I'm like, okay, you know, you expect guys to kind of to kind of give a little. We're, uh, he is, uh, let's see here, left 196. We're on 201.

He's five laps down and head of the only other car in his lap. He's five lucky dogs away from my chance to win. He's got that thing. Why are you right in the groove, like on exit, like, and not moving one bit? Like, I get it. You have your own race to run. But at a track like that, when you know, when everybody, we are fighting, I mean, you're fighting hard for one spot.

And that guy gets caught up a littlest bit. You don't, you race so hard to get that. You don't deserve that. If you get loose and slip up and somebody gets right. run you'd earn you deserve to that you don't deserve to get bold out of the way you know like just parked like i get it if you're racing a guy trying to get a lap back but once you get about three four down the odds of you making that back up are probably not going to happen we you know we there was multiple times yesterday even as bad as we were you know you're still lapping them 51 53 all

them guys multiple times a lap it seems like but you know obviously the top was the preferred groove of that middle so you wanted to be there so now you've got to run on a guy guy down the front stretch and he's kind of run in the middle and numerous times this happened yesterday but we'd get around to the guy and pull and we'd run the wall like all right here this is where we want to go and they pull up in front of us and you're like yeah get out of the groove my god Joey started forcing to the outside of the 51 or 53 one was one of the five he started swerving up on the front stretch and that guy I guess he was watching him he'd swerved down low but like the bottom was wasn't fastest but it wasn't terrible it wasn't like you were going to wreck if you

you were down there yeah so I'm going to assume we all got access to the same effort So Bob Pockris, I think, was the guy who broke that the track decided to just go out there and spray four feet of the racetrack with this compound on their own, right? So I get this picture from our brainiacs on our team, and it is the original treatment in blue, and it shows how much they sprayed. And then it's another overlay of red of how much, you know, new stuff they sprayed. And it was basically four-ish feet of spray. but that four-ish feet of spray had 17% more grip than the rest of the racetrack. So where the hell do they think we're going to run? Well, they did drag the tire dragons on the bottom.

That helped a lot. Where do they honestly think we're going to run? We're going to run in that four feet of grip. It's got 17% more grip, which means we're all going to ride around in line and a parade at 180 miles an hour, wide open. I felt like, did you do, you didn't do any of the Xfinity races, right? I felt like my, oh, my guy, he's never been there before, so I don't know how to, had a, take his information, but he felt like it was starting to wear out in the truck race. He's like that bottom's changing colors to where it's getting closer to the color of the racetrack

versus the color of the rest of the grip. And then we come back Sunday morning and it's all as black as dark as it can be again. I'm like, wow. I told Joey Saturday night it was wearing out. Who manages this racetrack? Who lets you start a race on Thursday night with a racetrack that dirty? They owe JRM a freaking race car. And Gibbs.

And Gibbs is a race car. Did you see the guy almost spinning? out in the tri-oval simply because he was in the tri-oval? Yeah, out of the groove. Because it was a gravel parking lot up there. When they drove down into turn one, I thought I was watching the truck race at El Dorah. They had UPS or Amazon or whoever's paying all that rent to put all them trailers out there. They could have used some of that money to watch the freaking racetrack.

Yeah. So I guess for fans that, for those who might not be us familiar, hi. How can you explain like how it typically works how they decide, you know, to make the changes that they try to make? Is it the track? Is it NASCAR? Is it both? We don't know. Yeah, we don't know here.

I think they... Typically, they get with the driver council or drivers, whatever, driver group me there, and they kind of make a plan. Like, you've seen it this year. I think Phoenix, they adjusted where they applied it from last year. So they get together and decide with the drivers where they think it's going to be best for. But it didn't sound to me like any of the drivers were on board with what happened on Sunday. The driver I was with said the track went rogue and went out on their own and put this four feet of grip down.

NASCAR didn't know about it. The cars didn't know about it. Teams didn't know about it. So Casey, to answer your question. question. I'm of the belief that after the racetrack is built, the racetrack is then the promoter business. They're not in the competition business. That's on NASCAR. That's on the teams. That's on the drivers. And boy, Kentucky sure did it. Man, they gave us a dirty track on Thursday and they gave us a track with four feet of grip on Sunday. Yeah. I mean, I don't know if it's, you can ask,

every driver is going to have a different opinion. I heard Kurt say they should have spread the bottom. Well, that would have been terrible. We, I mean, we wouldn't know. Just wherever you're spraying is going to be the groove. That's where we're running. So if you're going to spray a lane and the bottom's already the preferred groove, like Kentucky, the bottom, without being sprayed, the bottom is the preferred groove. If you spray a lane and a half up, it's probably going to still become the preferred groove. You need to go, like, to make it, you need to move it up even further.

Yes. In my opinion. I think if you're going to do something different there, I agree with you. You leave the bottom alone and spray like the third groove. I think they should science this out more. Maybe they have, because I've seen the grip numbers, why can't you, if you're going to spray it, why can't you, like you said,

it had 17% more grip, why can't you figure out the amount to put on? How do they know it had 17% more grip? They do that friction test thing? Awesome. So do you guys know it had 17% more grip too? I thought I didn't know that then. But I've seen grip numbers.

I had a top secret info on you guys. But they have seen how well the teams know it. But yeah. Like we didn't know it. I mean, we, I'm glad I did. tell you after the race. I'm pretty sure the driver's ready.

Yeah, I would have, you know what I would have done if you told me that? I would have just ran in the grip like everybody else on the race track. Like everybody Thursday, Friday, Saturday and Sunday.

But I mean, if you're going to, they need to, if you're going to use this stuff, let's figure out more of it, you know, figure out what percentage needs to, you know,

to make the grue is more accessible. Like, do you put a light, do you put a tiny light code on the bottom to give it 5% more grip to equal it out a little bit? You know what I mean? So they told me at Phoenix.

the same another brainiac on my team thank god we got a lot smart people uh a brainiac on the plane sitting beside of me who's one of my dearest friends i love his god death he said at phoenix in order to make the lanes run the same speed they needed to have 2% more grip on the top 2% we added 17% yeah what do they think was going to happen surprise i can't help you there i'm not a mathematician talking about the end of the race though great finish right You're changing the subject? Yeah, I'm changing the subject. I'm tired of talking about that.

Just leave it at home. We don't need it anymore. But who saw the caution that brought up this green-white checker with Kenzie? Oh, the guy in Pitt Road? Like, he spins out. Okay, like, if you want to throw the caution while he's spinning, hey, I'm all the four. You know, that's a legit caution. He spins out, spins on pit road, backs into the grass, half in the grass, half on pit road.

No caution. No caution. No caution. He starts rolling down pit road. Oh, put it out. Put it out. Put it out. We need a damn. We need a green white checker right here. I mean, we've harped on NASCAR a bunch of times about bourbon's coming out. Well, I brought a red solo cup today and I had water in it, but Jason, I found the bourbon, so why not?

Save me a little bit. Oh, that's enough. This is a part-time producer over here that takes full-time benefits of the gifts here. T.J., I assume you don't want any bourbon this morning. I mean, I like to smell a bourbon. Do you? If you go to a bourbon place in Kentucky, man, sitting in them barns, it's, you know, it's a And he went. Ah, all right.

So, I mean, I mean, obviously we've, and just, I mean, just be consistent. That's all we want. Like, if you want to throw the caution, that's fine. But throw it. I mean, if they didn't see it, maybe, I can understand. But they've got spotters in every corner. Hey, Freddie. Desperation, right?

I'd have thrown it, too. Desperation. We need an excitement. You need caution. So, but my problem is, just throw them all the time. Like, we've seen, how many times you see a guy pound the fence, no caution? We had guys fist fighting after the Xfinity race that didn't even warn a caution. So I drove two laps or a lap and a half at Bristol with a destroyed race car against the fence.

Yeah, I mean. In the groove. In the groove at Bristol. Listen, you want to talk about this package and not being very good? I spotted it. This package is only good on restarts. So throw as many damn cautions as you want. But be consistent with it.

Like TJ said, you can't have the 22 and the nine rolling around killed at Bristol for two laps. And then a guy's rolling down pit road on Sunday and we throw a caution flag for it. Like just a little bit of consistency goes a long way. that he was well down out of the way. Nothing was coming. He was on pit road. When I looked, he was rolling down towards pit road.

He literally just started rolling. I was calling it to Bubba because we were last. I didn't have anything to do. So we spun, and then I'm like, they must not see it. I guess we're staying green. Just stay green, stay green.

Now I was like, he's rolling. We're going to stay. Oh, never mind. Yellow's out. Yeah. We had a very early pit stall down there. So I'm spot in the middle, three wide, two inside, one outside.

Watch out in the pit stall guys, because he was sliding down towards that way. This may be a good show We're all pissed off All three of us And we're drinking And we got bourbon We had inside lane

Resourced the entire race Until the last two And the second to the last one When the outside lane All stacked up off a turn two And the inside lane rolled The only time it happened all day So we went from like eighth

To like 12th or something like that On that one And then We failed on the next one too I've seen somebody tweeted at me last night They said, well, your opinion of the cone rules wrong because Lugano started third and went to 10th or something. You think he wouldn't have done, you know, whatever, something different. I said, oh, Harvick started third and went to the lead just saying.

I would have taken third over 10th. I can tell you that. But, I mean, I think you would have took third over sixth. You know what I mean? I don't know. Do you take the second row inside over the third row outside? No, I'd probably take six there. But I mean, I'd like to have the decision.

Yeah. Oh yeah, for sure. I would love to have the option. We're getting ready to find out two days. This race was a prime example of where you were at a severe disadvantage. Third place was way getting destroyed by fourth, no matter what. I said that on Thursday or Friday with the Xfinity race when Noah's dominate and leading the whole race, they have a pit cycle and two guys either took two. I think it was Justin Haley and Jeremy Clements.

And that's how the 22 won the race because he got the fourth lane and the nine was stuck on the bottom behind Jeremy Clements. And I'm like, that's where the choose rule is going to be interesting because the 51 might even take the top, you know, behind the 11. So then you're giving the 9 in the bottom or the 9 gets sex. The 9 gets to choose his route, his groove over the 22. And maybe the 22 don't get around them right there. It'd just be nice to have the decision.

I would like to know that I lost race because of a decision I made rather than one it was forced to me. Yeah. So. All right. Let's get this rolling. Before we do, send your resumes to Hey, Jason Schultz 18. He sports out number 18 because he's a cobblished fan at gmail.com.

False. We'll let the resumes go to him. You want me to pick the... You pick your replacement. All right, next time there's bourbon. I'm not giving it to Brett. I'll only give it to Freddie. How many bourbon?

How many bottles of bourbon do I have at home? No, I'm talking to Jason. Yeah. Oh, that's a good point. How many took half a lot of home? That's what I'm saying. He didn't bring us the whole package, by the way. He's like, we got a cut out of the package and two little bottles.

From now on, the gifts go to me and Jason because you guys aren't appreciative. You want some bourbon right out? First of all, you don't even make the effort to come. weeks, I'll be in the clear. Don't worry. Your effort for this show is a little to none nowadays. We'll mail them to your house. I mean, last time I had to watch a makeout session during the show with you and Chad. Yeah. Yeah. I actually, I'm going to stop talking. Yeah. Uh-huh. Stop talking. Between Chad and that dog barking, we can barely get a show in. Okay. Well, anyways, you guys are just in great mood, so we'll just keep going. Let's hear more about our presenting sponsor Offerpad before we get started.

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com today. Spot on, spot off. He's spot off on. He's spot off. That's false. Spot on you like it. Spot off. You don't like it.

And you say why either way. First topic. Harrison Byrne. and Noah Gregson fight following Friday's Xfinity series race. Freddie, how about you? Spot on, spot off. Spot on. I mean, yeah, it's always good to see some excitement.

So I haven't really been a big fan of Noah's this year. Just the way he races, I've kind of been, it's a little agitating to watch because I feel like he doesn't really give about anybody else on the racetrack, including his teammates at times. But, you know, the way this fight goes down, me and Brett have talked about this a lot, and don't let yourself get punched. Like obviously Harrison had the right to be mad. Noah kind of ran in there and ran them over.

But don't walk over there with his hands, you know, pushing, shove, and Noah hit him with a right hook. I mean, that's it. I mean, don't let yourself get hit. I give credit to Noah because, I mean, we're not going to sit here and jab and talk and just shove each other. I'm going to hit you. So, I mean, and I think that's the way fighting should be.

If you're going to fight, fight, fight. I'm not condoning starting a fight, but if you're that mad, you're not, don't have a conversation about it. already had conversations about it. If you're going to do something, just do it. I mean, it was obviously Noah had had enough and look, I get it, man. The guy pushed him twice and he had enough. So don't go to talk. Just handle business, man. I mean, now, look, it was entertaining. It was entertaining to watch. I think my favorite part was Michael Annette kind of walking over. He's just like, eh, well, just let him go here.

Timmy Hill in the back time. He'll is better just taking a drink of water. He didn't even phase him. Like, oh. No, look, Mama said, if you think you're going to get in a fight, you better hit him first or you might not get to hit him at all. Guess what, Harrison, you missed your chance. You got popped, and you didn't get to pop him.

So if you're going to put your hands on another man, there's a solid chance he's going to hit you in the mouth. Well, first of all, let's be straight here. These are probably still kids. They're not kids. They're adults. They can vote. they can join a war.

If you can join a war, you're not a kid. They could go off right now and fight in a war. So I'm not making excuses that you're a kid. Bottom line is, don't go over there with your hands down and shoving somebody. This is what's going to happen. This is, you had an, you had a, and I agree with Freddie, though. You know, Noah's been driving aggressive, man, and he, like, there's a difference, I had a conversation with another guy about it.

There's a difference in aggressive driving. You know, you can be really aggravating, you know, but really, you can be really good aggressive but the point where you start making contact with a bunch of cars and you're washing them up the racetrack and it's pretty much a weekly thing now to you know it is becoming a weekly thing it's becoming a weekly thing it's it's a and you know the spotters talk we all we all be like who know who use up this you know you can't there's going to come a time like people are going to get tired of this you can only do this for so long that i have zero problem with aggressive racing but you can't the moment you make contact start sending people to walls and up the

racetracking stuff is, you know, like, trust me, I work with an aggressive driver, but he rarely does he send somebody to the fence. You know, we've talked about that Xfinity series and not having, you know, the experience and maybe the right temperament sometimes. We've seen this all year of that deal, you know, and you saw it a lot on Saturday and Friday with, you know, Ross. Ross makes a mistake on pit road, trying to make, you know, trying to make up for it compounds a mistake by going in there and wrecking Brett Moffitt, tearing his car up, the same car he's got to race the next day. Yeah.

Justin Haley, Brandon Brown. That Brandon Brown kid, man, he does not give you an inch. And it don't matter if it's for eighth or 18th. You know, somebody, I don't know who spots for him anymore or who's helping that kid. But, you know, there's a reason why his car gets tore up a lot is because he's overaggressive in places where he shouldn't be. And, you know, Justin Haley obviously got loose and chased it up into him. But I'm sure there was more that led up to that before that, you know, caused that to happen. But you just see a lot of these guys in the X-Finity series feel like they're maybe out to prove something.

and they make mistakes, and they compound mistakes on top of that. So, you know, we just, you know, obviously you got to be patient with him, but you got to be smart at the same time. But, you know, that Brandon Brown's been running better. He runs solidly from 13th to 20th, maybe, and if he gets up near that 13th,

he's been fast at times, like, for what they got, you know. For sure. It's, the problem is he ends up wrecked most of the time because he, you know, I saw him, Alfredo, I think as Alfredo had a big run on down the front stretch, and he just chopped the hell out of him into turn one. Yeah. It's like, are you really going to, are you willing to wreck your race car to finish,

the difference when he's finishing 12th and 13th is not that great to where you should be willing to tear up your race car. Yeah, I mean, but he doesn't, just because the guy, right, and I'm not saying he should swear down to cut him off, but, you know, once that it's Justin's job to pass him without destroying his race car as well, you know, and that guy, Brandon has every right to race him hard. Just because he races you hard doesn't mean Ryan Newman races. Everybody extremely hard every week doesn't mean they need to. I don't think anybody should lay over. But at the same time, what you're going to do is you know this as well as anybody does.

You can't control. If you're going to hold a guy tight, be ready to get wrecked because it's going to happen. You know, these guys, especially that place. Especially that place. So, you know. Or that series in fact, really. Trucks and Exfinity cars. That series is one guy that can't apply for Jason's job.

It's a guy over the surface at Kentucky because he sucked at that. He's not going to come suck at the podcast. All right. Jimmy Johnson tweets, I look forward to my next. restart behind Keselowski. Spot on, spot off, TJ. Spot off, man. I mean, people get runs. If there's a car there, there's a car there. He didn't just run into the back you and turn you. There's a car there. That's, I mean, restarts were crazy. You had to take what you can get. And if you had to run on the bottom

and you lifted, you're losing multiple spots and probably, it could be possibly up to about 10 if you lift into one. So, you know, Brad had a run. You got to, a better restart, he got position, and, you know, Jimmy Crowdered him. And, I mean, I watched back on the broadcast, when Jeff Gordon says that's what happened with one of his own guys, basically. Jeff threw Jimmy under the bus? He definitely blended on Jimmy. Wow.

So, but I mean, congratulations, Jeff Gordon. Jimmy, Jimmy was doing what he needed to do, and it's just tight racing with this. Is anybody else surprised that Jimmy Johnson is in this race other than me? Yeah, I'm pretty It was a I'm going to have all the details I don't know what the hell's going on there This guy's got more false up

Is anybody surprised that Jimmy Johnson is even in this race When I heard the news I thought two races for sure I thought everybody that Tested positive was quarantine 14 days I mean I guess that's not the norm I guess there's another rule out there that we didn't know that exists I don't think anybody knows anymore honestly But good for him good for him he's in the race

I think when Jimmy takes the time to go back and watch the replay he's going to realize. Well, good for Jimmy and his family are safe, you know. Yeah, yeah. I'm not saying that. That was a tough situation. And every other situation. Like, I mean, you know, Claudia's a nurse.

And when she, if she test positive, not when, if she's out for two weeks immediately. Like, it just, I'm glad he's racing. I just, I just was asking a question. But I think Jimmy's a fault here. And look, I have a ton of respect for this guy. Probably the greatest stock car driver I ever put a helmet on. We'll never get enough credit for what he's accomplished. No, no, no, he definitely won't.

But Jimmy, man, I'm sorry. Even Jeff Gordon said it's on you, bro. So obviously, we all agree. It was Jimmy's fault. He tried to throw a block that wasn't there. He got some tough. Tight racing, man. He was doing what it could.

I saw Twitter, a bunch of Twitter questions came in last night about, you know, oh, Brad should get penalized for every time that guy walks through the shop, I think it's Joey Lugano. It's so weird. I'm getting ready to break news here. Joey Ligano is a JRM. But everybody was talking about Brad laying back on a restart. and I didn't see it. I couldn't tell you if he did or not.

But you know something? If he did and got away with it, good for him. We talked about this with the pit road deal. Should we be doing it? Is it stupid? Yes. But nobody's going to do anything until you start penalizing people. We're going to take every advantage you give us.

And like TJ said in our little group last night, the only way you could pass is on restart. So you had to do something different to try to get a run. So if you can lay back a carlinked to you and get a run to the guy and NASCAR's not going to do anything to you, hey, why wouldn't you? Yeah. Clint was three car links off us.

one time and I mean I don't know what you talk about yeah I bet you don't I'll show you the SMD bud um but hey man he's just trying to like you said he's trying to make something happen and that's what you had to do I mean you couldn't I we cannot stress enough that you could not pass yesterday could not at all pass it didn't you had to have a guy either go to the bottom in front of you and plug the top or have a make a mistake or get in the lab traffic we tried everything we tried the bottom middle like the only person I saw yesterday that was able to consistently use the bottom and past people was Blaney. And that was the only car on the racetrack.

When something sucks in our sport and people tell you how good it is, despite the fact that it actually sucks, we call it drinking the Kool-Aid. If you were drinking the Kool-Aid yesterday, I hope they ended up waterboarding you with it because that was awful. Did you do the, I saw multiple tweets of her drivers were saying it. Clint came on and said, this is such a piece of shit. And he wasn't talking about a person. He wasn't talking about his car.

He was talking about the track. Remember what I said to do last week? Concrete tunnels? Yeah. Fill it up. You know, in Kentucky, it's a beautiful state. Honestly, man, if it got to the point where, I mean, if it started wearing out the asphalt, we could move around and have some tire wear, that place could probably be pretty fun. I mean, something.

It used to be. If the frog had wings, he wouldn't bump his ass every time he jumped either. He'd be able to fly. Yeah. Wow. It'll be pretty. It'll be fun in about 25 years when the pavement wears out. But they'll repave it six times between now and then, so it don't matter.

Yeah. Elevators worked. Thank God for 20 of us. That's what you guys asked for. Yeah. Before the final restart, Martin Trix, Jr. tells his father, Clayton Hughes, to relax and that I'm not sure why you're more stressed than I am right now. Brett, if anybody tells you to relax,

What are your thoughts there? Please tell us. Obviously, and I don't know the context of this. Clayton's a great guy, a great sense of humor. Obviously, Freddy, was he fired up? Like, was he? What was the dialogue? So he come by me two or three times on them last couple restarts. Like, I think Fidoa was down in the, I was like just off of turn four.

There was about 20 guys to my left. And I think Fidoa was down there. So I think the first time he went down there and tell Fidoa, hey, you know, give me a good shove here, you know? And Fido would just pull that line drove by both of them. So that was first time. Then he comes down the next restart, and he's telling Josh, push me, push me. And I'm like, did he see what happened to last restart? Ain't nobody pushing him.

They're going to go to the bottom too. So, you know, but we know Clayton. Clayton's awesome guy, but you can tell he's got some nervous all the time, man. In 18, when we were running for the championship, and me and him were saying next to each other, he paced more laps and right behind him than anybody, man. I'm looking to look, man, it's a race. You're going to go and run the best you can. and if you win, you win.

If you don't, you try again. That's the one great thing about our sport is we got another race in two more days. I mean, sometimes when you're spotting, you literally, I mean, in Clinton, in my situation, it's like we're riding in a car together, you know, and we're talking to each other. It's not like I'm spotter and he's driver all the time. And I think in this situation, obviously, Clayton is letting his emotions get the best of him. And look, it happens. You know, I mean, there's some spotters that I've heard them flat out say,

I don't know that I've ever done it. I've heard that multiple times in the last few weeks. There's a solid chance I've done it over 20 years, but I don't recall ever saying wreck him. You know, I certainly would wreck him if I were driving is probably what I thought to myself. But it's important for us to stay as calm as we can. But sometimes if we vent and we say what the driver is thinking, maybe it helps the driver, you know, move on from it too. So, yeah, I think it's a really, really laid back dude. and all of a sudden,

this, kind of since he won his championship. Like, he's been fired up on the radio. Yeah, mine can get worked up, but he is usually, look,

sitting here at this table, Martin would be the most laid-back, quiet individual. He's probably, he is one of them quiet guys. He's laid-back, dude. Once you get him, you know,

like hanging out of the night, you go to hang out with him or something. You get, basically, yes. He's pretty good. I ran quite a bit of eye racing with him,

um, during that quarantine time we ran quite a bit of eye racing and man Martin he's pretty he's pretty chatty on there

and stuff you know like just but that's just Martin and if you get Martin in his comfort zone he's just normal as can be you know and there's other people that's their personalities

you know so but man you don't the last thing that the last thing that we need to do for our drivers is get them worked up more that you need to keep them focused and and

ready to attack man but not not to the point where they're like, whoa, but you need to, they don't need to calm you down. You're supposed to be the other way around. You know, there's many times where people have come up to you, and I'm sure y'all are the same way where how do you stay so calm on the radio? You know, there's things like that. And you got to be calm, Clayton. Cauten down, Clayton. Calm down, Clayton. Listen to Freddy on the radio, it's like he's falling asleep. He's like, oh, he's a, like, probably is. I am falling asleep. I'm talking about you. He usually stay out pretty late than I before.

He was doing a live Twitter Q&A yesterday during the race. Didn't you see that? Protect the top. I made Earl have to record a little video clip he was doing right before the race like a couple different times. You see Earl's rap that Jimmy posted? Was that right before? No, no.

During his pandemic. Every time Earl would start recording, I'd go over there and holler at him or do something. He'd look over me like all mad looking. I was doing the same thing at Bristol. Earl still reached that thing before the race. No, this is something. mouse. He's like, hey, you're getting ready for the what? I'm like, Earl. I didn't realize I was doing it one time. And you know me, I'm in the background talking to

Herm and Jason Jarrett. And I'm like, this guy, you know. Earl just looks at you. He's like, messed that one up. Yeah, that was that. You could use it. You could just put my name on it. Sorry, Earl. Oh, boy. Earl is a funny guy. That rap was funny. Did you see the rap? No. You didn't see it? No. It's, Jimmy posted it. It was like there. I guess I all sent the Jimmy videos last week where like, hope you get back. and Earls was, he was TikToking to his own rap. It was pretty impressive. Brett doesn't know what TikToking is.

Yeah, dude, I got TikTok. China's getting ready to take it down or something, I heard. Yeah, I heard. So I saw an article just for a second that there's a lot of mad people, kids out there because TikTok is their social influencers on TikTok. So now they're all mad because they're going to take it away. Oh. Like, listen, man, there's some.

crazy stuff on TikTok. There's a The TikTok king worked not that he does videos but the guy that scrolls it probably 80% of his day works out here in a shop his name's Jonathan Davis

So is he on TikTok He is all the time He sends me hilarious clips man But like I don't even have TikTok I have to click the little link thing I mean I'm being tracked anyway So I'm sure So China started the coronavirus

And now we're taking out TikTok Because of them Yeah China is bad bad bad Start eating bats. Got Trump elected? China did. No, that was Russia.

Oh, that was Russia. So Russia's good. Who knows? Who knows? Who knows? How are we even talking about this? It's your job to keep us on track. Yeah, way to go.

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Question number one. Cole Custer went from 6th to 1st on the final restart to win Sunday. What could Martin Turex Jr. Ryan Planey and Kevin Harvick each done differently to win? in. All right, Fredi, what about Martin Truix Jr.? 10 seconds? Trujerk's biggest mistake was missing a block on the 41 coming down the front stretch. If he could have got up blocked the 41, his 41 gives him the shove to the lead. He's got the preferred groove into one.

He wins there. Commerce, Potter. Brett, what about Harvick? Harvick had the lead. He went into three, and why did he run the bottom? He did. He got turned to the bottom. He did?

Martin Clipton So clearly he wasn't paying attention Well we were racing We were a little busy I was running for 20th 4 wide Casey I didn't really see that live Yeah we were back there in a battle You have got at all cost

To stay on top Tj, Harvick I mean sorry Blaney Blaney got really close to getting clear off of two If he didn't get clear If that's me I'm clearing myself At that point if you watch that guy up a little bit Blaney gets to the high side

He's got a really good shot at shooting around there He's the 41, he wins the round there he's the 41, he wins the race. He hit that bump in the infield and it was over for him. It always goes faster on top. Did you see him hit that bump at the great? Did you see the still the image of it? Yeah, like there's a gap between the left front tire and the fender.

When you can't see the good year writing on it most of the time. You guys were bashing Cole Custer all year. I look at him. I think this proves Cole Custer has been listening because I said two weeks ago he needs to step it up and he finished four. Listen. Hey, that's our second question. Listen, real quick.

Casey, take control of this. This kid ran 14th all day. Question number two. The greatest car I've ever had, you ran 14th all day, buddy. Question number two. Cole Custer shocked the Cup Series with his first career win on Sunday. Which driver has the best chance to win their first career race next this season? T.J.

Tyler Reddick. Freddie? Christopher Bell. This guy was five lucky dogs away yesterday. Brennan Pool. He's definitely racing like it He's figured out the side draft He knows how to hang on your door

He really makes his car work Late exit Better than he picks up at least 12 15 miles an hour on exit I got to go with the bull Brendan Poole Brennan no there's no D in there buddy Brendan Brendan Brinin Poole

He found that 17% Dude he found that 17% So quick dude it was He found that 17% I'm just glad he rolled around there for 15 laps with a tire rub and the whole end of the race up myself, but that's fine. He's the reason I've finished like, I was going to run top four right till then. He's the reason you pass me.

Dang it. Do you want to curse anymore? Oh, sorry. Oh, my blood pressure went up. It's a bad day, Jason. Drink another one. You pop the other bottle here. Not to Uber home.

Question number three, Tony Stewart and Ray Everton, Edwinham are forming a new racing series that will focus. on short tracks with star drivers and will launch in 2021. What's another element of racing different than NASCAR that you'd like to see the series adopt? Brett. I'll take my 10 seconds to say, we need a new tire. We need softer tires. T.J.

Man, this could be the truck series from when it started all over again. Put some guys that know how to race some things. We got a lot of great short trackers in America and all over the world. Really, let's bring them in, put them in close cars, take away, like, take away the pit crews, have a halfway break, let them go. I like to see this turn into like almost, like, you know, people talk about the legend series or a All-Star series. Like, bring Mark Martin back for six races. Bring Biffle. Call Ed. I want to watch Rick Corelli, Ron Hortaday. Yeah, like, bring some old school guys back. In Wednesday nights, Bristol All-Star Race, are you okay with a driver making a move similar to Chase Elliott's move on Joey Lugano from June?

for a chance to win a million dollars on the final lap. Am I on the outside again or not? If I'm on the outside, no, absolutely not. I'm not cool with that anymore. See how that story ends. I mean, it's a million bucks, all-star race, no points on the line. I think it's completely acceptable. Jason, are you paid per word in this section?

The more words you put in the question, the more money you make? I like to set it up well. Okay. All right. New producer, by the way, word questions. Less words. Lengthy. You get 10 second questions for 10 seconds.

A 10 cents a word. I don't even know what the question is. They're too long for my ADD. I have no idea what's going on. Chase Elliott. Chase has an acceptable move for a million bucks? For a million bucks? I mean, I'll tell you what.

Yeah. I'd wreck anybody for a million bucks. I'd have came from fifth to do that move from a million bucks. I would wreck Jesus for a million dollars. I am not letting. It's a million dollars. I mean, I don't know about y'all, but a million. dollars go a long ways of my life.

I mean, you get a new AC. My damn air conditioner went out. I've got no air conditioner in my house. It's one way to lose weight. Good thing it's not hot. So, yeah, I mean, as long as you win, I mean, don't do this and wreck yourself and let somebody else win a million dollars. You know, win the damn race if you're going to do it.

Off the wall question. In honor of National French Friday, which chain restaurants you believe serves the best French fries? McDonald's. Freddie? Checkers. T.J. The curly fries at Hooters.

That's not a fast food place. That's fast food. Fast girls don't count. We're talking about fast food. Yeah, I'll go to the curly fries at Arby's. It's been probably 10 years since I've had them, but I mean, they can get the cheese dip too with it. They got mozzarella sticks now. Oh, really?

Yeah. Yeah. Brett has their menu memorized. You probably do, too. Just like that. We're at the end of the show. That went by way too fast. almost as fast as Exfinity Internet.

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Former NFL safety and brand new NASCAR fan, Bernard Pollard, is joining the show. Let's get them on. All right, so what's up, everybody? We got Bernard Pollard-old Crush Boy in the house. Finally, everybody's been blowing us up on Twitter to get him on here. And Bernard's always got a lot of questions. And the only thing we felt was right was to get him on the most honest podcast in NASCAR.

What's up, man? Man, how y'all doing? We good, we good, just hanging out, just finished up talking a lot of trash about this week's race. And some other stuff will get to with you. But what's you've been up to? Man, I'm training like no other working these middle school. players out working my high school players and some pro players and college players so hey man i'm trying to i'm trying to stay young uh so it's going down what town are you in because freddie and i need a workout partner

hey hey y'all come on i'm in bruntwood tennessee so y'all come on out here we get it in all right how far is that from nashville because that might be a slight distraction i you know no no no see look you need to stay away from Nashville so we're about the minutes so at the end of the day when you get done with me you go ahead and have a beer too if you'll be good man what's with that i mean i mean i I have a buddy that retired, and he moved Tennessee too. David Acres lives in Nashville. He lives out there. Yeah.

Yeah, he, he, uh, D. Acres over at, he over at Lipschool, man. So yeah, me and he talked to his son playing. He's a big NASCAR fan too. Oh, that's what I didn't know that. So now I got, yeah, I got somebody to talk trash to. So, man, talk about that. Obviously, you've blown up on Twitter here the last couple weeks. Just, I mean, one of the biggest NASCAR fans I know right now.

What, what, I mean, what, what kicked that off? What, what got you into the sport? You know what? It's crazy. And I've told a lot of people, the biggest thing with me, my wife was watching CNN one day. And she, I guess Don Lemon was talking to Bubba Wallace. So I walked by and I heard him say, we want to have NASCAR driver Bubba Wallace on. And when he said Bubba, I was like, Bobba, I said, man, it's like a brother. So he gets to talk and I was doing something in the room. I walked through to go to the bathroom, to the calls or whatever. And I go, that sound like a brother, man. So I came out, I go, baby, is he black? She was like, yeah. So I'm like, NASCAR got black drivers? So that sparked the interest. So, I mean, from then on, I was just like, you know what?

Like, I want to learn about this sport. And I've been taking my time the last two months. And, man, it has been awesome. Yeah, I mean, I've been following along with you on Twitter. And it's crazy. And I mean, you can talk to this, the fan. So he just steady. And it's crazy to us.

Like, you go back and look and I look at some of his questions. And it's like, to us, that's so. so obvious. But to somebody that's never even watched the lap of racing, you're like, yeah, I can see why that doesn't make sense. And just talk about how much the fans have been helpful, because it's all usually fans or a couple of the writers maybe get in there, but a lot of times it's just fans answering questions one after another.

It's been a blessing because, you know, as you said, I don't know this sport. And so, you know, that'd be the same thing if I put football plays in front of your defensive schemes or offensive schemes, y'all be like, okay, what the crap is this? So, you know, for me, when I watch it, I didn't come up watching racing. I didn't, you know, even growing up in Indiana, racing was not, you know, we didn't know things like that happened.

I think we knew of NASCAR, but we just didn't know about NASCAR. So, you know, football, basketball, and track was always in front of me. So as I watch this sport and I see the strategy and I see, you know, how guys are, you know, making moves or maneuvering to do different things or, you know, hearing from their crews. And then you're seeing the pit crew changing out things and they're moving, everybody's moving. moving and sequence. And I'm just looking like, dude, like, their strategy. It's just not like, so many people told me racing boring. You just turn left.

You do this or this, do that. And it's like, nah, they're strategy to this. And it's truly been fun for me to learn from the fans, to learn from pit crews, from crewchees. It's been awesome, man. Yeah, I think it's great. You're taking it up like that and you see that side of it, man. I think it's awesome.

So one of the coolest racetracks in America is actually pretty close to you, Bristol, Tennessee. We're headed there Wednesday night. I realize we're giving you short notice. You're invited, but if you can't make this one, we've got another one later in the fall, man, and you've got to come see a race at Bristol because, number one, Bubba's a Tennessee guy. So he's kind of got a home track advantage thing going on there, right? But number two, I mean, these guys will tell you, you're in for it Wednesday night. These guys are racing for a million bucks, 33, 36 degree banking, half-mile racetrack.

Man, I can't wait, and I can't wait for you to watch this one. My guy got destroyed there last time, so we got a little, we got something to prove there. Oh, man. I'm definitely going to try to make it. I'm definitely trying to make it. So I'm excited about it. A lot of people told me about it. So I need to get there for the excitement.

So you've played in tons of college stadiums, tons of pro stadiums. This is to me, I mean, every time I get there, Bernard, like I could go 10, 20, 30 times a year. It is such an impressive facility. It holds 160,000 people. Obviously, in the pandemic, we're not going to sell this thing out. we're letting 30,000 in. But this is just one of a kind. Like, what is your favorite place you've ever played?

College, pro, whatever. Man, you know what? Probably the most memorable, I would have to say, playing at Ohio State. I think that was just that atmosphere. It's between Ohio State and Penn State. The atmosphere is just crazy. You know, that barbecue smell coming up to the stadium.

and then even too, when I played in Kansas City, coming up to Arrowhead, man, that's like a college atmosphere. They're crazy at Arrowhead. Exactly, man. So it's nuts. So that right there, man, has just been an experience for me. It's so much fun playing in, you know, playing games, period.

But I think the college atmosphere, they go a little bit above and beyond for the excitement outside. And then when you get in to the stadium, the student sections and things of that nature, man, it is off the charts. My guys like to break tables. my team likes to break folding tables. A bunch of drunk idiots flying around out there.

They suck at football, but they're good at telling you. They can't play a damn lick of football, but they can't break a table in our head. We didn't go to football. We came for a good time. Might not win a race. Never lose a party. No, no. I've never lost a party, man.

So obviously you're getting into it now more and more. I mean, you've got a favorite driver. I mean, you're just kind of viving with everybody. I see, I tend to start, I don't know if it's just because they've been winning a lot lately, but I see you viving with Stuart Haas a lot lately. Hey, we're now. You know what? Look, man, look, I talk to everybody.

I don't know enough. Like, so for me, when people, when I talk about football and I go on ESPN, go on different shows, and I communicate with people, I played this game. So it's hard for me to have a favorite team just because I've been, you know, I am, I'm deeply connected, right? So since I'm deeply connected, it's just like, I just love the game of football. So when I watch the game of football, I'm not rooting for a player. I'm not rooting for a team.

I just call out what it is. I'm seeing an offense, what I'm seeing on defense or special teams. So I think that's the approach I've taken with NASCAR is I don't want to really have a favorite driver because I just want to enjoy all the drivers. I want to be the root for everybody because I want to see the different strategies, you know, because I was paid a lot of money to watch film. So as I watched film, I picked up on players and picked up on tendencies, down in distance, you know, what they're doing in situational.

football. So that's kind of what I'm doing with NASCAR. I'm kind of looking at, okay, well, how is this crew attacking this? How is this driver attacking this? And it's been fun for me. And I think I kind of want to stay on the outside looking in, you know, not really having a specific driver because I just want to continue to just see how it works. I just don't know enough about NASCAR to say, oh, I'm rolling with, you know, Kevin Harvick or Bubba Wallace or, you know, I saw you in the Kevin Harvick stuff already. Josh Jones must have got that stuff out quick, That's my guess. I don't know who sent it to you,

but I'm guessing Josh Jones sent you stuff as quick as he could. So two things, man. Number one, we've actually got some guys in our industry that graduated from Purdue. Most of them are engineers. T.J.'s actually work with one. I'm on the 88 Carwooddale Jr. We called him rad. I think his name was Tim.

Great guy. Love to connect you with some of those guys. The other thing is, man, our pit crew guys, some of former NFL guys, some of them former college guys. Those guys are studs. They're doing four tire stops in 12 seconds. Have you tried a pit stop yet? You know what?

I've never tried to pit stop. Look, let me look. I'm scared because I'm seeing the way to get up. You can't say you're scared. No, I'm not. We've seen you on TV. I feel you. And that's a whole different animal.

But dude, you're talking about jumping over a wall with two tires in your hands, whatever those shooting guns, boat, whatever that's called. Look, man, hey, stop laughing at me, because I don't know. We're laughing with you, dog. We're laughing with you. You used to hit people. So, I mean, I'm going to cause a crash. I mean, you got to play safety, right?

Yeah. But you got to play safety when you could actually still, you didn't want to cross the middle of the field when you were playing safety. You could hit some people in it. I'd be more scared of being a slot receiver when he was saying, look at your Twitter handle. I get it. I get it, man. But you got to understand, like, for me seeing that, like every, like you said, 12 seconds, that is fast. If you mess around, because I just noticed something.

So I guess this, you know, y'all can answer this. Why, when they shoot those gun things to take those boat things off, y'all just let them fly. They don't pick them up. They hit people when the car takes off. They're laying on the ground. Sometimes a couple times a year they'll spit those out from underneath the tires and hit guys in the teeth and stuff like that.

Yeah, I mean, we've had issues where it'll fly off and it'll get hung up in the brakes or it'll give you a flat tire. It'll ruin your day too. I mean, they fly, but they don't have time to obviously. pick them up and do nothing with them. So that's why you'll see after a pit stop guys are out there with blowers or brooms and they're kind of cleaning them up for the next pit stop. Well, last year we had a, this is a quick story.

Great. The rear tire changeer on a truck was going around the back of the truck. And he's got his glove or his ring. His ring got caught on a spoiler. And he ripped his ring finger off. It was Joe Slinglinglinglinger last year. Well, the best part about it was I have a Madden League and he plays in it. And I was his next game.

So I was like, man, can you hold it? to remote, can we play our game, you know? And, but he literally ripped his ring finger off on the spoiler. The spoiler is the piece of the back of the car that sticks up in the air. When they run around the back, he put his hand on that and it ripped his finger off. I was waiting for you to get to mad, and I was figuring, I was trying to figure out how he was going to bring that into this. Well, Joe, I would, listen, I would beat Joe really bad. So I didn't, I felt bad playing him with nine fingers.

That's a bad ball. Obviously, Twitter, everybody follows you on Twitter. they know you got a lot of questions. What are you got? What are you got for us? What do you want to know? Look, man,

I think, okay, so, so if we go back to the, the bolt thing, lug nuts, so are they told them. We're going to call them a lugnuts from now all. Lugnuts.

Oh, okay, lugnuts. All right, so they, okay, where are the rest of the lug nuts when they put the new tires on? So they're already glued to the wheel. They glue them up before the race,

so they're glued to the wheel. So when they hang them, when they hang the tire on the hub, it, they hold, them over the you know the studs studs and and the guys are they're just sitting there ready for the guy to hit them the glue stretches out the glue kind of stretches out and it stays right on the end of the stud and then the guys hit them guns and those guns are spinning so fast they just they hit them

things so fast and that that that it's spinning that lug nut so fast it basically runs it up that's why you see some guys have a loose wheel that means that that thing that lug nut didn't spin all the way tight up against the wheel with that so he feels vibration that with a loose wheel that's because that lug nut is not all the way tight. So he'll feel that in the steering wheel, which is a scary sensation for a driver going into the corner at 200 miles an hour with a vibration, you know.

And if you don't fix that, those things will eventually work themselves free and the tire will come off eventually. So you got to fix the vibration. That's why when you guys pit for a loose wheel, they don't run it very long because it can really create a bad day. And the tire changer that you see hitting those lug nuts, he's responsible for gluing those on

because the last thing you would want to do is, you know, let your opponent go lace your cleats up for you, right? So he's the guy to glue them all. And they used to have a lot of problems, man, when it was cold to get that glue to work. Now they've got enough technology. I don't know where what's that glue them on, where most of the time, pretty good. But they do carry extra lug nuts on their belts in case one pops off. And their hand speed on those tire changes is unreal. So if you came to the shop, right, there's a few positions. You could try Jackman where you run out in front of the car. He's the first guy over the wall. So essentially, he's the quarterback saying,

hike. So he's the first guy. Everybody else goes off of him. You talk about language now. Yeah, there's limitations on when he can jump. If he jumps too early, he literally gets a false start from NASCAR. So he has to wait until his car is close before

he jumps. Well, we've seen Jackman get hit by cars because of various reasons, right? But then you've got the tire changer. So the guy on the rear, he has to be a little bit faster because the guy on the front is sitting there and the car comes to him and it stops. He starts hitting tires. The guy on the back actually has to go behind the car and catch up to the car

and then dive to the ground on his knees. All these guys have knee problems when they get older. They have back problems when they get older. But man, I'm telling you, you come to you. It wouldn't be a live pit stop in a race. You wouldn't have to worry about getting hit by another car. But if you make it to Charlotte, we'll make sure you get a chance of doing some of these things, man, because I'm telling you, it'll give you a lot of perspective. We won't put you in harm's way. You'll be fine. I promise. Jason might. Jason and I try to stick you out in front of a car back there. These cars are hard to jack up. They're hard.

They're not like, it's not like a regular floor jack either. These guys that are the jackman, man, it's impressive what they can do. They're definitely athletes, man. They're way more athletes than, that's why we're spotters. Brent and Freddie are both a little bigger than me, but you know. So, okay, so talking about the spotter. So when it comes, so I was hearing more about that. I really never knew about it.

So can you define or kind of our. articulate what is that? Like what is this butter? I mean, I would probably, if we're going to go football terms, you're looking like a coordinator. You know, you're kind of up in the press box. We're up in the highest point of the racetrack, usually on the roof of the press box,

or right now we're in the grandstands because there's nobody there. And you're kind of just overseeing what's going on. You're telling your driver what's going on around him. You know, if he's clear or not clear, if there's an accident, you try to help him get through that. And then you're also kind of playing psychologist where, you know, if he's getting pissed off about something, you're hey all right calm down we got to get back in this you know don't worry about it's not it's a long race

whatever but you know you got a lot of different you know a lot of different jobs at once but it's kind of I feel like if you're going to equate it to a football analogy you're kind of like a coordinator you're overseeing everything and feeding information to the coach aka the crew chief and the quarterback the driver you know so stuff like that but you're you're kind of overseeing everything from the top that's right I've always won't do you listen to us from the app there's a you can get the NASCAR app and you can listen to the and race control as well. Have you listened to some of that?

So I haven't. I've been trying to listen more to the analysts just so I can try to learn. Because I think if I listen to the spotter, I think I don't know if I'll get lost and maybe potentially try to skip levels of learning about the sport. But I definitely, you know, when they plug into the car audio or whatever, you know, I definitely hear the communication from the driver into the crew chief. or the spotter. And it's, I mean, for me, it's, it's crazy awesome because, you know, you get to see that

game plan, if I, if I will say, you see the game plan or hear the game plan, and it's, it's pretty cool. So there's three people that talk on a radio. There's the guy trying to fix the car. That's the crew chief. There's us who are saying what we see and trying to help these guys navigate traffic, the spotter. Then there's the other guy that will not stop complaining for 500 miles.

That's the driver. That's, that guy. But to Freddie's point, man, we're at the highest point. everything happens in slow motion for us because we're so high. If we get near the fence, these guys are coming by us at 200 miles an hour. It literally is scary to know what we do. But when we get up so high, it looks like they're running 55 miles an hour. We're clearing these guys by inches.

We're helping them navigate wrecks. We're helping them find fast lines on a racetrack. TJ's always trying to block somebody and cause a problem. He's notorious for that. That's probably been his MO all season. But I would equate it to certainly an offensive coordinator. But we've seen a lot of blocking this year, so maybe we're a defensive coordinator. too, T-J.

Exactly. Hey, I know I got two wins. I mean, you got none this year. Hey, if you see this table here, Bernard, there's two cars sitting here. I'm the only guy here that has wins cars on this table either, so. I just got suit. Not as this helmet right here.

I just got Super Bowls. Sue Bowls pay your bills. Sometimes, if you bet, it depends on how much you bet on it. That's hilarious. Hey, man, so we had us a little scrap on Saturday, Thursday, or Friday night. What did you think of them boys scrapping? that was that was amazing to me what was your impression when you saw what were you like we

like oh that okay i got to be honest that got me crumb because hey man i was hype because i'm looking like i'm one of them dudes where i'm passionate about football i'm passionate about coaching and teaching and it's just like you know when somebody stepped to you you better be ready to throw them bowls and them two jokers went at it it was awesome what i don't was crazy to me is when, you know, because I actually did it in football, when dudes pissed off and they're fighting, when you throw a mic in their face, it's going to, nothing good going to come out. I was shocked at that, and I was mad that I missed the interview, but I was excited about the fight,

and I did. I told the fans, I was like, look, man, y'all got me looking like a creep on YouTube, freaking going and Googling fights. And I'm just like, I was like, I looked like a creep, but I couldn't stop. So it was good. We've had a couple good ones. They fight because they're passionate, man. You know, they're angry.

They're fighting because they're passionate. And that when we get to, there might be some this weekend, man, racing for a million dollars on a short track. We can't get away from each other on a short track. These bigger mile and a half tracks, you fight for the air. You know, you get behind somebody, you don't, your car doesn't work as good and stuff like that. These short tracks, you can't really,

you don't fight for the air as much here. You can't get away from each other. So it's going to be really exciting Wednesday night. Yeah. So that takes me into another question, because I hear the analysts say clean, air. So clean air is just means you're in the lead. Clean air means a dude in front of you ain't vaping. It's nice and clean with your car to come through there. Yeah. Yeah. So basically, yeah. That's why we

block. That's why we block so you block so you keep that clean air. You basically, as long as there's nobody in front of it. You don't necessarily have to have the lead, but if there's nobody in front of you for, you know, a half a straight-away or straight-away or a straight-o air, so that's clean air. And it's very, very, very, very valuable. If you think about it, like the league car has all that air hitting his nose. Like if you get behind a semi on a highway, you know, you get rid of behind a semi, you don't, your car just kind of, it's real easy, you know, but now you're trying to turn a corner behind that, you know, in a race car, it's not going to, because there's no air pushing out in the front of your car. So you get out, you know, that's why clean air is king. Your car works

great out there. It's getting all that air. But it's also when we go to like Talladeg and Dayton, then you have a draft, you know, you're drafting behind a guy. That, that, the draft, the air, no air hitting the front of your car allows your car to go faster. That's why they can catch up to each other on the straightaways but when we get to the corners you just need that air to pin that nose down and turn the car um that's why you don't see guys follow each other through the corner at mile and a half track so much because they just need air the car won't turn as good yeah so the air creates downforce the down force on the car creates turn so if you're one of the lead cars you get more air on your car if you're in quote dirty air you're running 20th you're driving into no grip essentially because

there's no air to push more weight onto your tires yeah to help your car work. Okay. That makes sense. I still don't understand what y'all said. I was going to say, I'm going to break it down for you. Basically, you don't want to be behind nobody. So that's all there is too.

Whenever you're Googling stuff next time, just Google, like, just drafting, and it'll probably show you some aerodynamic diagrams of the air going up over the front car and the air doesn't hit the car behind it. So if there's nothing, if there's no air hitting the front of this nose right here pushing down on the car, then it can't turn as good. If you've got a bunch of air hitting the front of this guy's car, it's, pushing down on them front tires. When the front tires are down on the ground more, it's going to turn better. Well, this guy doesn't have any air pushing down on his tire,

so he can't turn as good and goes up the racetrack. I mean, it's the equivalent of having a free run of the quarterback or somebody blocking you. You know what I mean? Like, you come out of safety blitz and you've got a clean run, that's clean air. Somebody isn't your way, that's dirty air. Yeah, same thing. You get one of them, look out blocks. Look out. That's tight. Okay. I understand a little more. I understand a little more. The slower we go, like at short tracks, like Bristol on Wednesday night's a short track, you're not going as fast. It's not pushing down.

There is not pushing down on the car as much. So therefore, you know, you're not, is aerodependent, the guy behind so it can catch you and get to you, you know, without fighting air. So it makes it a little easier and we run Martinsville and Bristol and stuff. That's why this week it's going to be really exciting at Bristol. So, okay, so at Bristol, now, are there any limitations? Because I know at what Talladega, I don't know the correct, I don't remember it. Restrictor plate. Yeah, restrictor plate.

On the engine? Yeah, yeah, restricted plate. They put a plate on the carburetor that only allows, you know, them to produce so much horsepower. So we go to like Talladega. Our cars would run, shoot, man, 250? Probably. 260 mile an hour if they didn't put a restrictor plate on them. And the drivers don't care if they run 250 miles an hour.

We have to protect the fans. If our cars get over 200 miles an hour, they're more likely to go in the air, which obviously create safety concerns for the stands. I mean, our fences are built exceptionally well, but we don't want to be over 200 miles an hour. Yeah. To answer your question, we've got no restrictions this week. Actually, this week we've got more motor than we have anywhere else, right? It was a 750 motor this week. So we have more horsepower than we've had at the shorter tracks, and it just promotes better racing.

I mean, you tune in Wednesday or get there Wednesday. We'll hook you up. Maybe we can smuggle you up to the spotter stand for a little while for some of the race. But, you know, you're not going to want to miss this deal on Wednesday night. It's going to be a ball to the wall guys trying to kill each other for a million dollars. I hope we can all attend your first ride-along program. When you go ride along for, even in that school car or something where you're doing three-quarter speed of these guys. So you can see, you know, if you're doing 110 down the highway, you feel like you're flying.

Like, you're going fast. You're supposed to do 110 down the highway, DJ. You know what I mean. Exactly. But imagine, imagine doing 170. You know what I mean? Like, it's. I mean 170 don't feel fast

And everybody else doing it But when you're doing it by yourself Yes Yes I'm excited I can't wait for your first ride-alom deal man It's good How fast do they go in the ride-along?

About 160 Yeah about 1601-7 I'm good I'm good Come on now I don't need that in my life Hey we got we got Padden we got helmets

And stuff You'd be all right I'll drive I'll be that dude That piss myself That's all right Somebody's got Some of these guys piss themselves all the time.

Some of these guys do, don't worry about it. That's why they, if you look in the bottom of their seats, there's little holes drilled for a reason. That's so all of it can run out. I swear, that's always the number one question. That is always a question. What do you guys do for four hours when you got to go? I'm like, what do you think they do?

Yeah, they just got to go, right? You got pig. Like spotters, man. What do we got to go? Just go. Yeah. So y'all got bottles up there pissing in bottles? He just goes.

He leaves every caution. He's gone. I don't know where hell he's at. T.J. needs the pins. I must. Either I have the smallest bladder known to man Or I just drink too much on race day

Because if there's a caution I'm going man One time at Texas I had to go so bad Ended up being like two green flag It was a 500 mile race We had like two or three green flag pit stops I thought I was gonna I didn't but I almost pissed myself So let me ask you this as a new fan coming into it

What do you think about how long our races are Like you know I mean how do you how do you When you're watching a race I mean can you stay invested the whole time Or you know you take a little break Come back for the end Where are you at on that?

So I'm going to be 100% honest with you. And I tell fans this all the time, because I know a lot of fans, it's like, yo, Bernard, DBR it, so you can come back and watch it. So for me, the way that I learned, I got to watch from start to finish. Now, there's been a couple of delays in the last few races

or before this last one or whatever. And that actually helped me out because our family was here from Florida and we were barbecuing and things in the nature. So I was getting a grill ready and put stuff out. But I watched the race from beginning. and end simply because I want to learn. I want to learn.

And I don't, I'm a tight word when I'm invested, man, I'm there and I got to watch it from start. Because I, you know, that's the way I get to learn the drivers and learn the strategy of it. So I don't know if I'll ever be that dude that can leave for a little bit and

come back because I miss is all the in-between. Yeah, what happens. That's good. Yeah. That's awesome. That's awesome. Yeah. I think that's great, man.

Do you wish they were shorter? No. I mean. Yes, Bernard. But I'd say yes, damn it. Yes, you wish they were sure. Okay, yeah. Do you all the peer pressure, man?

We ain't trying to be standing up there for four hours. It's hot. I mean, I think it's great. So with that, so I guess with that, like, are you guys, so we have a union. So with the NFL, you know, with sports or whatever or football, basketball, you got a union. Do you guys have a union to go out there and fight for that? Or how does that happen? We don't have anything as individuals.

So recently. About five years ago, they formed something called Race Team Alliance. And it's where essentially the top eight or ten owners got together. But I'll be honestly, Bernard, all I think it's done is drive down costs for them. Drivers don't have a union. If they say you're going to run backwards at 220 miles an hour, the driver's going to either get in there or he's going to get fired. Drivers don't have a union. Spotters don't have unions.

None of us are, we don't have a central effort that protects us. We don't have, like you guys, I'm assuming, have a pretty good 401K pension. retirement plan, we don't have anything like that. Our sport, Freddie and myself are complete independent contractors. So we own our own companies as spotters. That's all we do for that. TJ is an employee. So we work, our model is completely different.

I've got buddies that have played NFL, Tommy Maddox, friend of mine, buddies that have played MLB, and they're blown away when I tell them how ours works versus how those works. That's crazy. Yeah. So that means this is a little more cut-through. on y'all end, you know, as far as trying to, you know, do certain things. So, yeah.

So, man, our market value, and my home is what he just signed, like everybody in NFL and I'm a quarterback, I'm excited, right? And our deal, it's every man for himself. And right now with the market the way it is, guys are undercutting guys. You know what I mean? I mean, you may have a guy that's making a million bucks and maybe that's league minimum for the NFL. Well, all of a sudden, this kid walks in off the street and goes, hey, forget league minimum.

I'll do it for half a million bucks. Well, a lot of times they're going to end up with that guy. So, man, it's a completely different world economically than the way major sports work for other deals. But is that, but so if he comes in, so if someone agrees to that, so if you're, if you're worth a million and you're looking like, dude,

I know I'm damn good at what I do. And somebody come in at half a million, you're getting what you're paying for. So that guy might not be as good as you, but he's going to get the job anyway. Look, we have drivers right now that have taken the seats of other drivers that were good drivers because they brought money to the table.

We have spotters on the spotter stand that'll do it for half what TJ and I'll do it for. But you are going to get it. I've always said if you pay peanuts, you're going to get a bunch of monkeys working for you. And I truly believe that. I know I'm worth what I'm asking for when we get the plate tracks, when wrecks happen in front of us, we're navigating through it. I don't know what those other guys are going to tell you to protect your $150,000 race car. How many of them you want to tear up before you realize you made the wrong move? But I think it just comes down to, and I want to ask you this anyway. Like for us, everybody always says, how do you get into racing?

How do you make it as far as you did? Well, it's a never give up attitude. It's a never stop learning attitude. It's work seven days a week if that's what it takes to get the job done. Like for you, you're working with all these kids. They all want to be professional sports players in the back of their mind. I mean, I grew up in Pageland, South Carolina. I grew up to a whole 5 foot 8 inch in high school.

And I thought I was going to get a chance to play pro ball for some stupid-ass reason. I obviously didn't, but I aspired to. And I ended up making it in professional sports, which is NASCAR, not done. not another league, right? How do you mold these kids mind into getting them ready for that? Well, I think, you know, when I talk to the parents, for every athlete that comes to me, I ask them, you know, what are you looking for? And as you said, a lot of players or a lot of kids want to say, I want to make it to college or I want to make it to the big leagues. So for me, it's hard for me, and this is a God's sign of truth. Yesterday, I went, one of my players,

I've been noticing my kid has been regressing because he does a lot of one-on-one sessions with me. And so I've noticed he's regressing, and I'm looking like, okay, something's happening. And so his dad asked me to come see him work out. So I said, work out where? So he's working out with his other trainer. So this other trainer, this guy never played.

I think he played high school balls. Not good. It didn't play DB, but he's allowing his kid to work out at DB, and he's out there just doing all of this bull crap. So I look at the dad and I go look this is why he's regressing I go you have you've had it with me I've had to take him And so for every player that I take I have to break habits that they've been allowed to get away with for so many amount of years So when I get them, I have one kid where this kid is firing on all cylinders

He's awesome but we did the same thing for almost six weeks straight We got to stay the course and so that's where you break the habits And so learning and understanding where their mindset is I got to be I'm I'm a truth guy. I want to be honest with you. If you're D1 dude, if you're D1A, do if you're NIA or D2 dude, I got to be honest with the parent.

And then we got to, we have to get you ready accordingly. And so that's kind of my stance, my stance with a lot of parents and a lot of players. Because the parents sometimes think their kids are better than they are. The kids sometimes think, you know, they're better than they are. And I tell the kid, like, look, beat you. You know, I deal. And look, we real, right?

So I deal with a lot of white players. I deal with a lot of black players. So my black players come in and they just think they're talented, they're gifted. And they just think, okay, I can just come in here and show up and it's going to happen. And I'm looking like, no, you need to be, I got to tame you. I got to get you moving in the right place. Well, some of my white players might not be athletically gifted, but they're smarter and then they can go out there and do certain things.

Well, now I got to tell them, okay, we got to get your athletic ability up to a certain level. And so I tell my parents all the time, I'm real. I'm going to be 100% honest with you, and we've got to get this thing rolling so I can help you achieve the things that you want. What's the name of your facility that you're running there? So it's actually, I'm actually at us in Nolansville, so it's right next to Brentwood.

So I'm out here, man, doing this in Brentwood, Tennessee. And so it's B-Polor or BP training, and I'm having a blast with it. I'm actually thinking about opening a facility. We'll see about that. But yeah, man, we're getting it rolling. That's awesome, man. Bernard, I got a couple guys that are a little overweight, a little older.

Bearded. They got beards. Yeah, they got beards both sitting within six feet of me. You can take them in and be real with them, too. We can get it going, man. We're going to burn calories and we're going to get you rolling. I think I can be easy, Freddie. I think I could be a D1 holder.

Yeah. Hey, look, man, we're, I'll be as to side. We genuinely appreciate new fans. And I say that on not on behalf of myself or TJ or Freddie. Our sport genuinely appreciates new fans. And we genuinely appreciate people who come in here with an open mind and appreciate the science, the effort, the workload. I mean, my race team has 450 employees,

Stuart Haas Racing, that filled four race cars. And people looking at it on TV don't always get that, man. So I appreciate you investing your time to gain more knowledge, to be a true, genuine NASCAR fan. I can't wait to get you to a racetrack. Yeah, I'm super excited for you to get to the racetrack, man. witness these cars. There is nothing like going to the fence and watching one of these cars go by you, man. When you do that, you're going to turn around and you're going to be like, no matter what

track it is, Martinsville to Daytona, when you walk up next to that fence and one of these cars go by you, you are going to be like, wow. And then if you ever do, you get to do a ride along, you're going to ride around that car and you're going to be like, wow, these guys are, these guys are incredible what they really do. I'm so excited. The hair is going to stand up on your neck and on your arms. and listen, man, I've been doing this 20-plus years. I'm limited on top, so yeah, I've been doing this 20-plus years, and there's still a lot of times, man,

that national anthem and flyover gives me chills. So I can't wait to get you there and experience them in person. Hopefully we'll be sneaky in there this week. But before we let you go, we've got to do some questions here quick for our sponsor, just some rapid-fire stuff for offerpad.com. All right, it's time for Bernard to answer our offerpad.com

questions of the week and rapid-fire style. First question. When did you buy or build your home? Man, so I bought a home in 2006, a brand new house. I've never purchased anything really like that ever in my life. So get my first check, 2006 was the first home I built or first home I bought. First home I built was 2012. All right.

What is your favorite room or spot in your house? I would have to say my billion room. That's where I watch all my racing. I watch all my racing and then I dominate jokers on the pool table so yeah so it definitely be the billy your room

you got to tweet your seat next time you watch a race in there man we need to see this room yeah we need to see that room man all right if you were to build or buy a new home with a different feature than your current house

what would it be just a bigger NASCAR room get you get you some trophies you know what I'm actually so I'm converting my office where I'm sitting in right now I'm converting my office because I get my rig this Friday

So I'm in my office. Oh, man. TJ's our resident high racing. I'm big eye racing guy, so. Yeah. All right. What room besides your bedroom do you spend the most time in? Probably would be my billiard and then my theater because I play a lot.

I'm in a mat and league. So I'm in there a lot. Are you Xbox or PS4? I feel like you and TJ are best. Yeah, I'm Xbox. Oh, yeah. How was your player rating? How did you feel?

Was you on Stata or did they have you screwed up? somewhere. Well, they, so my player rating was cool when I, when I was in a game, but they definitely, my hitting ability was off the charts, but they somehow, they always gave me a 79 speed, so I was always pissed off at that. Yeah, you were a big hitter. You get the hit stick down across the middle. I remember asking, uh, the Dnomican Sioux came to Sonoma one time to a race, and he was in a holler because the guy that, one of our guys in a team played football with him. And I was like, man, what about your speed rigging? He looked at me, he was like, he's pretty mad about it. Like he, people get.

mad about them ratings, man. Oh, yeah. All right. Garage or no garage? Garage. Man, he got like a six-car garage. You're asking a former NFL player if you got a garage. I'm reading the questions.

That's all I can do here. Is your kitchen typically clean or messy? Oh, I'm a clean freak. I'm a germipold. So anytime I cook, I wash as I go. I don't like nothing on my counters. I'm a germapult bad. Do you make your bed in the morning?

No, that's bad. No, but who does? I still trying to find out who the hell makes their bed every day. I make mine. Well, you're an idiot. I can't help you. All right, when you come home and just need to sit down, where'd you go to spot? I probably would go to the theater.

I got a couple chairs in the theater that, well, I got my one chair that I sit in. If anybody in it, you got us to go. All right, if you were to sell your house, who would you do it with? There's only one right question of this. I won't tell the answer. It's off for pad.com. What's your go-to-car to drive? Oh, if I was to sell my house, I mean, I'm going to sell it to the highest bidder.

That's right. We'll make sure they get you the best offer. Hey, I got to ask you this for you leave. Hardest you've ever been hit because we know all your hard hits. It's like, what's the hardest you ever got hit? I won't know was it a full back? Was it a pulling guard? Like, what, tell me about it?

I'm being honest. I've never, you know what? I take that back. Peyton Hillis. He was in Cleveland. He's a running back out of Arkansas. He's a fullback at Arkansas, actually. And he came out.

He was with Denver, and I hit him. And I literally, I knocked him out the game, but he flipped me sideways when I hit him. Wow. And he left for the rest of the game. Oh, yeah, I've knocked up. Piss out of him. But, yeah, he hit me hard, too.

What, on the other side of that, what's your one go-to? If you're going to tell somebody a story about lighting somebody up, what is it? And please don't say Tom Brady because Jason's going to cry. So Tom Brady, look, Jay, I'm sorry, bro. Tom Brady wasn't even a hard, like, I don't know, man. I just ended up hitting him in the knee. But the heart saw a hit that I would tell a lot of people

about. I hit Justin Fargus. He went to SC, played for Oakland Raiders. I hit him so hard. He was sleep on contact. Ball flew up in the air. feet from under him. I literally ran through him. Didn't break stride. It was awesome. You're not allowed to do that nowadays, though, man. Oh, yeah, they can't do that now.

They've got no hitters now. So you're like in the, what was it, Atwater? You're like in the Atwater Club. Like, you didn't want to cross the middle when you got guys like you back here. Oh, I hit harder than Atwater, but yeah, yeah, something like that. I love it. Hey, thanks for jumping on with us, man.

We know you're a busy guy. It means a lot. Hey, appreciate you guys for having me. Yeah, man. Let them questions build up. We'll have you back on here in a little while. Yeah, we might have to have a Bernard segment on our show. Let's get it.

All right, y'all take it easy. Ask DBC. Send in your questions 24-7 on Twitter using the hashtag AskDBC. First question is from Maddox K, what do you think about the lights that will be under the cars for the All-Star race? Is it a silly gimmick? Is this going to be pretty cool? Can't wait.

Fasten to Furious Part 15. Why can we not make the lights match our cars? I don't understand. We have a bright yellow car and we will run. What lights color am I running? Wow, that's going to clash great. There's no other blue on the car. I got a petty blue car probably.

I don't even know what are our sponsor is. Amber. It just doesn't. Like, if you're going to do something cool, let's turn it loose to the teams. Go look at the sports car racing at Daytona. You know, those guys can put whatever. light strips they want on the cars and, you know, and it helps out. I mean, let's put them on the roof and stuff. Let's do it. Don't, I mean, don't put any lights on these. If you're going to, what the

hell are you doing? Yeah, at least let it match the car, though. You know what I mean? Like, your car would look good if it had, if it had, if it had blue lights, you know, the match. Yeah, something to match, like a petty blue light. I honestly have no idea what my car's going to look like. You can change them lights with, just like, just like your phone. Like, so you can flash them with, like, if you want to pass somebody, like, flash it red or something. Like, get the hell out of my way. Remember that video game, Spy Hunter? Yeah.

Where you used to be able to hit a button and you could do a smoke screen and you hit another button you could do oil slick. Is that next? I mean, is that what we're going to do next year? I hope so, because you're never past me. I mean, is that what we're coming to?

I was born in 1975 and around 1990, lowriders were a big thing. Mitsubishi lowriders. Toyota lowriders. Guess what they had on them. They had lights underneath them. That was 30 years ago. 30 years ago.

That's another edit. Hey, you've, yeah. I swear. You've got all you've had. years ago. That movie Fast and Fear has come out. If we're going to do something new, do something different. How about... So, okay, obviously the lights are dumb.

There's no reason for him. Who came up with this? I'll tell you who ruined this. Kurt Busch or somebody who can nasty ruined all this because they showed up at that burnout competition with him. And if somebody in NASCAR said, well, that looks cool. Yeah. So let's race them somewhere. Like Chip Wilde takes ownership of having the throwback idea to do that at Darlington.

Awesome idea. Whenever these people have these ideas, they should raise. their hand and say, hey, this is my idea. That way we can say, hey, you're smart or hey, you're not? Hey, you're not. I'll tell you one thing. I don't know about you guys. I have still yet to, we've seen a couple paint schemes come out. I have yet to find a number slid back paint scheme that looks even

remotely good. I've heard some rumors of some of them coming out that look, that don't look bad, but 32 look terrible. The number is so small. That's the problem. The number's tiny. The number needs to be the biggest thing on the door. The car, the car that Corey posted, it's got the number shrunk down, higher on the door,

And then there's like 74 sponsors in front of it. Every sponsor they've had on the car is on there. Like, if you're going to do this, the number needs to stay. Maybe we should sponsor it too. Who could we get? Do you guys realize you've complained about any single option? I'll sponsor that car. Then we'll tell them to, there, man.

But, I mean, if you're going to do this and it's going to look good, the number has to stay the same size. You could slide it back. I'm fine with the being on the door slid back, but it should be big number or normal sized number and one sponsor logo. Not three different things on there. I mean, I've heard some cars are going to look decent.

37 I heard it is a rumor is going to look okay but I still have yet to see it released I haven't seen any cars released that I think look even remotely good couple of them don't need you guys have literally complained about every question every single question nobody asked you couple of them cars need four ways instead of neon lights flashers

I want to complain about the all-star vote in general well we're not going to get into that you can do it in the rant you can do it in the rant I'm not waiting I'm mad about it why because here's listen to me listen to me Every year, every year during the All-Star vote, is it a surprise who wins the vote to some degree?

When do they tell you who's leading the vote? Who's winning the vote? They tell you after the race. Okay. So let me back up. All of a sudden this year, Bubba Wallace is leading a vote. Good for him, good for Freddie. Bubba's leading the vote.

They've announced it a week ahead of time Bubba's leading the vote. No, they announced in the past. So let me ask you this. Why even make him run the race? Why don't you announce the vote winner this week? why would you put these people have invested all their time to vote for bubble wallace or to vote for whoever why wouldn't you announce that guy gets into the all-star race on thursday of this week making it's on announcement make it a press conference have the driver there let's have a really fun positive event

Thursday would be the day after the race but you got you know I'm saying okay we'll do it tonight Monday night we typically run this thing on Saturday night obviously but why wouldn't you take and reward these fans who have invested all of their time and go ahead and announce Bubba Wallace, Clint Boyer, Eric Amarola, whoever's going to win this thing, you did all the work, you put this guy into the All-Star race, he's in. Why would we wait and let this guy potentially wreck and potentially do anything else, not finishing the lead lap because of a flat tire, and then he doesn't get to go into the All-Star. That's not fair to the fans.

If we're going to include the fans, include the fans, reward the driver, don't wait. There's no reason to wait. And if you don't know you're the winner of it, you're assuming you are, what if you're not? You know, then you go out there. And now you've released that we're the leader, so now you go into it and thinking, well, you know. Don't recall. We've got started.

We've got. They did it. They've done it in the past. Or at least. They might tell the driver ahead of time, like to be careful. That's not how that works. They do tell the driver. They do tell the driver.

They come to you and they go, your second and fan load. You're third in fan load. You, you know where we're at, but the public doesn't know where we're at. That's what I'm explaining to you now. They've now made it public. They've made it public. I'll let you talk. in a second. They've made it public, so why wouldn't you go ahead and say, this guy won,

he's in the All-Star race? Why would you hold it back? Your turn. Okay, Dale Beach, 55. No, I'm going to take. Anyways, next one is from Dale Beach 55 with the cup cars now going to run on the Daytona Road course. How much additional help will you need to spot? T.J., you are a much better talker today. I'll take about five extra motive here. That's about the only You don't need any help there. You can see the entire road course from, and I'm guessing Daytona roof. If, you just said it. You can see it from all the sweet levels and all of the roof easily,

and Daytona's got a huge roof, so I'm hoping. Yeah, we can spread out because we had all them TV stands. We should be able to get that there. I'm hoping we can utilize the roof there since it's so big. But you can see the entire road course from there. I just hope we run the big horsepower package and we don't run the 550. I heard an interesting rumor that the low downforce package was like two seconds faster, like over 200 miles an hour into turn one.

Do you realize, how do they know? Who tested? Like Sims and stuff. Yeah, turn one, you know what I was thinking about when they said this? You know who's going to be really good right in the beginning? Kyle Busch. He ran the 24-hour race down there. I'm sure there's got to be some other people in there, right?

have run that race? I mean, he's fresh off of it, though, this year. So Kyle's going to know the track. I mean, they're going to run the sim, but you know. We're going to run practice, too, I'm sure. Yeah, he's just, I mean, that's just an advantage now. Him running that race earlier this year is probably going to prove to be a little bit of an advantage. Well, he needs it.

God, where'd he go? Where's he adding points? I don't know. Probably near us. No, he's not here. You got to be one. I bet he's not a top ten. Fourth or fifth or something like that.

I guarantee he's not a top ten, right? I don't know. I didn't see Parker's his tweet, but. Jason, do you know? You probably usually do. Jason? This is going to be a good time. You probably mark it on your calendar every week, no?

He's 11th. You're right, Freddie, outside of top 10. That's probably the lowest he's been in a long time. And he's probably should have been worse yesterday. I think he caught that last caution right when Brennan Poole stayed out for an hour and a half. He got a shock broke or something. Oh, really? Yeah.

Although he hit the wall. He did hit the wall. Maybe that helped break it. But, I mean, you're talking about Kyle Bush starts on the pole at a track you can't pass and was a non-factor all day. Never. I don't remember being up there at all. Yeah. We caught the caution at the complete wrong time.

Every time. Yeah. All right. Well, I decided that Brett is excluded from the rant. So Freddie, T.J., what do you guys have the rants about? I don't really have a rant. I just know, I mean, dang, I want Brad's horseshoe, man. God, what a lucky son of a lot of you.

Harvich, too, yesterday. Brad had the one. Brad's sitting up in road and retains the lead. Yeah, from, like, because his pitts doll was Tor-turn, turn four. I mean, that's just luck. I mean, look, man, would all take it if it happened to us. Something out. Yeah.

Where do you cut that tire at? Charlotte or something like that? Oh, he's coming to pit road and the caution come out. And then yesterday, man, he went from like 10th of the lead. Because of where... And held it for most of the round of course. This is a deal where they probably... We should race to the end of pit road no matter what.

Everybody should be in the same boat if you're on pit road. Yeah. With the leader when you're coming around. You know, because this happened before where, you know, a guy was running to the start finish line on pit road beats the leader of the start finish line a guy pitting between stall one in the start the start finish line

doesn't beat the leader that guy that's behind now passes all of them and goes around that doesn't seem right so I mean and NASCAR's probably got to go nuts when this happens in the middle of a cycle because like it's so confusing it's got to be bad for them too like just the they nailed it

they nailed it this time they did a good job yesterday they nailed it but it's just it's just something that could be tweaked easily and, you know, caution is in the middle of pit cycles are always chaos. And that's what drove me crazy yesterday, about the 50. So we were two down, three down, I'm not even sure at this point.

We caught their caution wrong the first time, caught our, strapped ourselves an extra lap behind the guys we were racing. But then you look, so I'm telling Jerry on Channel 2, I'm like, 15's got a bad tire up. Like, we need to push just as long as we can. Jerry's like, yeah, 10, 4. This is the lap we can go to.

I forget what it was, 2, 50 something. he's like, this is how far we can go. So we're pushing it and pushing it and pushing it. Or 220 something, actually. And I'm like, Jerry's like, we got one more lap. And I'm like, it's still rubbing, but obviously we're running out a lap. Yeah, you're going to run out of the front stretch. I'm like, of course.

But like in that position, if you're that guy and you're 5, 10, whatever laps down you are, why the hell are you out there driving around with a tire rub like that? Like, I get it. You come off pit road, you got low air pressure or whatever. Give it a lap or two. But if it's still smoking for three or three. We had a tire rub, but run for about two laps and it kind of clearance itself. He's looking for that first win.

He was hoping to lay enough debris down and get the other 35 guys on a racetrack to Rick. Here's what people aren't talking about with Cole Custer. The restart, before the restart where he won the race, he restarted 12th. He went to the top of one and two. He made it four wide, and he made up a lot of ground. Another caution came out. That put him in position to do another amazing restart. Martin made the block the first lap.

He missed it the second time and Cole won the race. I mean, whether or not his car was the best car he's ever driven, like T.J. Hended I don't know because I've never driven his cars he has, and he's been running 30th, so maybe it was the best car he's ever had. But when you look at him going, he took that win away from a bunch of veterans. He took that win away from a Ryan Blaney, a Kevin Harvick, a Martin Truex. If I'm going to win my first freaking race, you know who I want to beat? Two champions and Ryan Blaney.

That's a hell of a state. I mean, you can tell coming down the front stretch, those guys were all. only worried about each other and had no idea he was coming. I'm just getting ready to say that. The 19 pulls, you know, the 19's got the top. He's on the wall, come up a four, and he pulls down to kind of stall Harvick out thinking, I'm good. All I got to do is stall him out a little bit, and I got the lane into one. And the 41 just drove around. The 41 was clear into one. Like, he just drove around all three of them like they were parked. So, I mean, it's just, you know, you get to that position, you're thinking, I just got to beat these other two and kind of block out what's going on around you. Yeah. And he fell asleep there, and that 41 made him pay for it.

He took him to school. I mean, if Martin doesn't try to slow the four down and the four cuts the racetrack and clears him, it's over from Martin. So Martin's in a hard spot there. Do you come up in front of the 41? Because the 41, you don't know if he's actually going to push you. He might turn anything. He had a big run. Yeah.

I think you put him up against the wall. He's got to go to the top. You and I, TJ, I cannot believe you just said that. You know and I know you can't let anybody on your right rear in these cars. And if you do, you're fucking now. But I also know if the guy clears you on the bottom comes up in front of you. It doesn't matter. You and I both know you can't let a guy on your right rear.

You're the master of that at plate tracks. And you just said you got to give that guy at the top because you got to worry about harder. No, I didn't say you had to give him. I said it's a tough call to make because you got to chase the guy down and you got to block the top. Well, I'm going to tell you what you do if you let him get on your right rear. You get passed. Well, every time. We got passed in a truck race on the bottom basically by a guy that restarted third because he went all.

He cut the track in a one there. And it was proven effective on restarts. You saw it on whatever the expedited races were too. like what's their way down there Cynchrick was the fastest car but them got like Hamrick got clear but it's harder it's harder in Exfinity cars and trucks too

because they're their cup cars you're wide open through one and two so the shorter you make that deal the better you are hey Freddy you like what DBC picks looks like this week yeah reel them in boys reel in a man one more week Tj if you would just start winning I would be fine

you suck everybody I pick man I thought I was gonna give this one away yesterday because Blaney was about all day I'm like I'm good. Blaney's the best car out here. And then the last couple restarts, I'm like, oh, he's going to wreck. Freddie's got this easier. You realize that, right? Why do I have it easier?

You started late and you get a whole pool of drivers. I gave up four drivers. I gave up Kyle Busch, Joey Leggano. I didn't know that. Yeah. You should, yeah, I figured you were giving up. No, I gave up Kyle. He gave up three drivers. I gave up four.

Ross just don't count. He doesn't run. You guys used him. Because we have to. And he was running again, so I used it. We're at that point in the season. We got to use him. So I gave up Blaney.

I'm sorry. I gave up Reddick, Kyle Busch, Lugano, and Ross Chesting. I gave up Ross because Brett swung for the fence and I don't want to use a good guy. What do we do here? Do we pick Bristol and Texas or we let Bristol go? Normally we don't do All-Star. Well, if we do All-Star, it would be anything goes. Pick wherever you want.

All right, we'll skip that. We're going to Texas. So Texas. Who got Brett, you go first? I do? I think so. I'll take Amarola. Who's next?

Me? Man, I got a roll with Ryan Blaney. Huh Sores has been looking really good lately He's actually doing better That's not funny he beat me yesterday I didn't even know you ran yesterday I still hadn't seen you

I didn't even know you could run 27th What I reckon Ah Tehaus You guys got some pretty good picks Let's go Sugar Tj there's been 17 races

And you've won two Yeah, if you want to lose, like, Blaine, I'm sorry already. My guy, I mean, John Hunter was going to get. I'm going to take Christopher Bell. I figured that's what you can do. Solid choice. Hey, Ray Evanham, Tony Stewart. What's the other guy's name?

George Pine announced today, the short track series thing. I know we kind of touched on it, but you kind of have the best of both worlds here, right? You've got Tony Stewart, the driver, Tony Stewart, the team owner, Tony Stewart, the track owner. You've got Ray Everingham, former crew chief, former. Modified driver, former owner, George Pine. I don't know what you guys know about George Pine. I'm just going to tell you what I've heard about George Pine.

Brian Francis' college roommate obviously got into the sport, was a senior executive with NASCAR, left to go run IMG, one of the largest sports properties, is now with, I think, one of those big capital groups that raises money. This has the recipe to be special, because the racetracks that Ray Evanham mentioned were places like Stafford, places like El Dora, places like where we run the snowball derby. What's that place called?

Five flags down in Pensacola. Holy cow, this could be something fun. Did they let in on what kind of cars we're talking about here? They said they want the cars to top out at about 150 miles an hour. They obviously want them to be safe. They want to be a hybrid. Everything I read about it sounds really positive. This is not the first time Tony's done something like this.

Tony is the, I'm assuming, owner or whatever you want to call, promoter of the All-Star Circuit of Champions there where he branched off of World Outlaws and started his own series. And this is, you know, I don't think Tony's, I don't think these guys are looking to compete with NASCAR. You know what I mean? I think this is just something that they want to do for fun and get some, maybe some of the older guys or get, you know, get a guy like Bubba Pollard to race against Carl Edwards. You know what I mean? Stuff like that. This is the direction that the ARCA and K&N need to trend.

You need to, you should trend that way, man. Make it affordable for these guys to run these short tracks where people can run. Way more affordable, man. This is three NASCAR alumni that are starting something that ultimately could go up against NASCAR. Is there an age limit or track time limit? Can I run? They say star, so you're out. Hang it.

Queen Huff got my spot. Yeah, Quinn Huff's in there. I mean, obviously. Another solid effort yesterday. Oh, by the way, there's a guy that loves to tweet you about. Yeah, some truck driver guy. He's the double zero truck driver. I don't know why he's bad at me.

I hadn't done anything. I'm not the guy that keeps tearing up his race cars. He's bad because he's got to load that thing up on castors. I thought Freddie was the one gave him crap all the time. Now I'm going to start giving him crap because this guy is tweeting in me. I think Quinn Hoff has the most speeding penalties of any kind of this year. That's the fast he goes all days on pit road. Like this guy, I mean, if you're going to run 87th all day long,

how are you going to compound it with a speeding penalty? I think I heard his name twice. You know who's the king of that used to be Mike Harmon? Mike Harmon didn't have a attack in his car or something because this is a got a pit road penalty every time he came down pit road. How about Mike Harmon's race? getting there. Kyle Weatherman, man, he went top ten to it, right?

Eighth, yeah. And then he comes back on the next day and destroys it on the first one. Poor guy. But, yeah, Kyle's a great. I've known Kyle a while. I mean, I'm not personally, but I've seen a race a while. Do you think Mike Harmon was ever actually comfortable in a race car? Like, if he's got a six-point harness and he's strapped in. Probably that day when he blew the whole left side of it off. He's strapped. Like, I've not seen a race car where the door would open and let you in. But like, the fact that this guy could get in there is impressive. We used to have a guy. I'm telling you what, based on this, based on how much I've been

eating lately. I'm going to be that fire. What restaurant was that on he? It's probably not as comfortable than the race cars. He was an applebee's, but I mean, there was a guy, uh, who was it Charlie Pashtra? Not Charlie, Carl Pastriac, right? They had to cut out on the door. He's a big dude like modified. Obviously, you've seen him as well. They've got, they're pretty tight windows. So this guy just built like a flap into his door with a door flapped open. He climbed in and flapped their back closed. I was assuming Harmon was getting ready to go there, but I think he kind of retired. Is he done? I mean, I ain't seen him in a while. Now his cars are running good. So he probably needs. to be done. Damn, good for him. I like to see his

cars run good. I mean, I like that guy wasn't a kid, like I said, he's, he ran really well in ARCA and then really hasn't gotten anything good. Hey, you know that there for a while when y'all were having your little when you and you and Mike were having your little tickle fight. I like to see him lay on his back and somebody tickle him.

That'd be funny. Oh my God. I'd like to see you tickle him laying on his back. I'd be honest with you. I don't know where his tickle spotted been. We were going to have, we got really close to having Mike show up here during the podcast, just not telling you. Damn.

We were talking about doing it, but we weren't really sure it was going to stay. We weren't sure enough that it wouldn't turn into something, so we didn't do it. All right, guys. Well, thank you so much for listening. As always, please help us out by sharing the link to the show on social media and tons of comments,

all good ones, on Apple Podcast. Watch y'all star race. It's one of my favorite race in the year. Even when it was at Charlotte, I would have to say Bristol. man, probably not a better racetrack on our circuit to go race for a million bucks because at Charlotte, when we take the green and we start racing, the leader gets out there, it can be hard to reel him back in here.

You can overdrive a corner, catch guy on his left rear. There's a lot of scenarios that can play out here for a million dollars. And if these guys don't put on a show for this one, man, find a new job. I'm telling you right now, tune in early because that All-Star Open is usually a better show than the All-Star Race. This could be a home run right here. This could be a home run, man. We've got, I mean, we got neon lights.

No, I'm just kidding out with that. But, um, Jesus. We got, uh, I mean, Diesel's going to be there. We are, um, we're doing, NASCAR's doing a lot of things here, man. We're changing, the cars are going to look a little different, you know, it's just different, you know. And, and, uh, Chews cone. We got the choose cone coming out. You pick your own poison with this, which is great for short tracks.

This is, this is setting the stage for a phenomenal. The last, the last, the last, the last little bit of that race is going to be tense. And it's going to be good. and who's going to do what to win that race. These guys are going to have more opportunity to make something happen. This is what we need to do. We need to give these guys opportunity to make stuff happen because a lot of times your hands are tied.

Thank you, Tennessee government, because you are ultimately the reason this happened. The state of North Carolina was not going to let a single fan through the gate to watch the All-Star race at Charlotte. Marcus Smith, Bruton Smith, and their group reached out to Tennessee. Tennessee said, we'll let 30,000 people in the gate. The place holds 150,000 people. There's plenty of room to spread out, plenty of room to make it safe.

Be happy that the state let us go to our job in front of our fans again. I'm really happy that that happened. Ultimately, North Carolina governor costs this race to leave. I think it's for the better of the sport. If you're going, be smart about it. Follow whatever guidelines they give you. So we can do this again somewhere else. You don't want to be the one that costs us or a fan down the road.

We're going to Texas this week, and there's already questions about that place. So do the right thing Wednesday, you know, wear your mask, do whatever they tell you, and hopefully we can do this again. If you're sick, don't risk it, man. Like, just be smart about it. But this is an opportunity for our guys to put on a show and put the ball back in the driver's court right here. And this is a real all-star race. This is a real all-star event. The other all-star events and other sports aren't.

They don't want to get injured. Our guys will be full out for this million bucks. I'm excited about it, man. This is going to be circled. When I saw the Bristol, this is going to be an all-race. This was one circled that you want to. This is a must-see. The only thing can make it better is if they announce tomorrow, the fan vote, put them in, listen to our show.

Casey. Only thing that can make it better. Think about how smart you are just by being on our show. Do you imagine if this race goes good and we all work together and get rid of this coronavirus deal and what Bristol all-star race could be like next year? You imagine the lights and the crazy. Our Wednesday night ratings have been struggling. I think there's a lot of factors to that. Hopefully no weather delay.

Hopefully a good show and a good showing. I'm excited about it. Hopefully, man, it's going to be insane. That's just a reality of it. It's a million dollars on a short track. At a bull ring. Yeah. I mean, it's like having 30 people in this room and saying the last person that can, you know, stand here is going to win.

Like, it's going to be a melee. I don't even think they need to. I'm not even sure they need to do much prep to the track at all. Leave it how it was. Don't do anything. Don't even touch it. Don't touch it. It was perfect when we left there last time.

It was. All right. I guess we're out. We're done. Jason quit. I mean, Jason's fire. I don't remember what happened, Jason hit the stop recording button. He's done.

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