Door Bumper Clear - 183 - Full of Excuses

Episode Date: July 20, 2020

An action-packed week of racing at the Bristol All-Star Race and Texas Motor Speedway left plenty for T.J. Majors, Freddie Kraft and Brett Griffin to cover. The spotting trio responds to Michael McDowell turning Bubba Wallace in the All-Star Open and the ensuing crowd reaction, how the choose cone rule played out and where the race should head next. On Sunday at Texas, Austin Dillon pulled off the upset victory and the gang discusses the winning call coming from Richard Childress Racing’s command center and how no one could pass the No. 3 and 8 cars in the closing laps. Rookie Quin Houff made a gigantic mistake on Sunday by trying to pit from the middle of the track and triggered a violent crash. Freddie shares what he told Houff before the race and the guys reiterate the danger his lack of experience is posing on the track. Plus, thoughts on Denny Hamlin saying Speedway Motorsports Inc. has gone ‘rouge,’ Brad Keselowski’s graduation and demotion idea and another run-in for Noah Gragson in Saturday’s Xfinity Series race. Want more DBC? Check out and subscribe to the new DBC YouTube channel! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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Yo, Brett Griffin here. You're listening to Door Bumper Clear, presented by OfferPad. We're back from Texas and the All-Star Race with plenty of. cover. Michael McDowell turned Bobba Wallace at Bristol. Quint Huff's dumbass move and Austin Dillon winning are just a few of the topics we'll hit. Jason, let's hit the intro. Hey, me too now. This is Freddie Cratt. Get ready. Be ready. Be ready. Be ready.

New leader. I'll watch out for this guy. White flag. Recognize. Hello. Clear. Bring home. Three lines. Coming to the line. Door. Bumper. Bumper. Clear. Hey, everybody.

I'm TJ Majors. Spotted the 22 Cup Car, the 99 truck. Supposed to be starter of the show, and it took you an hour to get us going. Brett Griffin, Spotter, Clint Boyer. See, Jason's still in the house. Wonder how those resumes are coming in. Yeah. None.

Nobody wants to deal with us. That's not true. I saw some tweets. I saw some tweets. I saw some tweets, Jason. I'm going to hire a Chase Elliott fan. Your job isn't high demand still. I'm going to hire Chase Ellie.

You know he's filtering everything that comes in with a man. too. Oh, resume, nope. I don't know. I don't know what's the head of a Chase Elliott fan or a Kyle Bush fan back there in that room. So what's up? Freddie Kraft, Spotter Bubba Wallace, Derek Krauss, had old Jeffrey Earnhard again this week. Pretty decent runs for everybody.

I heard the rumor we got some gifts, Jason. What do you got back there? Got more gifts? I heard this is for Brett. I don't know what it is. They're probably on the counter in his house. Got more gifts? They came in March, but we're getting them now.

Of course. Casey, what's up? What do we get? Hello, I want to know what these gifts are. I'm kind of sad I'm not there. What we got here? It's not chicken filet. Did you not open them just to prove that you didn't steal anything?

It literally says to Brett Griffin, not Jason, on the label. And it's open. I'd imagine that's a bottle of something. Look at the special delivery instructions. Uh-oh. Huh. Spirited shipper. I'll tell you what this is going to be.

It's going to be H. Taylor. Look at that packaging. What is that? It's upside down. It's upside down. I'll probably be upside down later myself. Dang.

This is a bottle of E.H. Taylor's straight rye. And I've never had the straight rye. So who said this? Who said it? Does it say? Man, you know I got my ring glasses on. Old people promise. Straight from the bourbon distributor.

So I don't know who said it. You seriously can't see anything. You can't see that box. When you turn 45, Casey, you'll get it. I didn't under. They told me at 40 my vision was going to go out and it didn't. But at 45, boom. One morning you wake up and you can't see you up close.

Look at this. We got game. cock stuff come out. It was a doorbubber clear shirt. Oh, my God. Somebody made it with Gamecox stuff on. No, man. That is not your size. Those are masks? Oh. Who is creating all this? Look, we all get one. I was going to say, there's no way he's going to fit in that. There's a mask for everybody.

Casey, this is your shirt. I thought the one. Once after you had the baby, this is a shirt for you. Casey, it's a tube top for after you have the baby. Oh, my gosh. My teacher child's shirt is that small. I can't see. You pulled it up. So, oh my gosh. We got Gamecocks in the house. You know you.

You're definitely going to wear that. Why are you guys getting gifts for Brett, though? I don't, I'm not a huge bourbon drinker, but I would, you know, I would drink some bourbon if it was sent to me. I've got, I've had season wood from E. H. Taylor, small batch, single barrel. I've never had straight ride. So, man, that's awesome. Thank you. Thanks a lot. Thanks a lot.

Brett already has a big enough head. What do we got? What's in that card? What's in that card? How about the door bumper clear logo with the, uh, do you see that on Twitter? With the trees on it with a cell car. Somebody made on Twitter? Yeah.

I like that logo. Yeah. That was pretty good. Yeah, that was awesome. This is only 100 proof. Braddard will keep you. You'll be good. The name of the company is Costs Creative.

He's a fellow game cock and alum. Rusty Coss. Tell Freddy I can do a new batch when he finally gets added to the logo. Don't worry. Rusty, what's his name? Rusty sometime in late March we'll probably get that logo, I think. Yeah. Yeah.

He says he loves to listen to the show. So thanks, Rusty. Appreciate it. Yeah, Rousy. Actually, ironically, last week I brought a Red Solo Cup, not knowing we had bourbon here. This week, I wore a Gamecox shirt, not knowing we were getting Gamecock gear. See, that's why Gamecox are the best. TJ, there was a gift for you, but it was a Chase Elliott fan package, so I decided to keep that.

Go ahead and have that. You know what, Jason, I'd like that because I want to auction it off. I'm going to auctioned off with MRO. I'm trying to steal my bourbon. I was just moving it out of the way. It's blocking my Daytona 500 wing car. So that's cool. I don't understand why everybody likes Brett so much and keeps giving him gifts.

Just that guy. Just that one guy. It's just bourbon drinkers and Gamecock fans. Just drunks. You know why they like them because they're drunk when they listen to the show. They're like, that guy's right. It's all the cool people. I get it now.

So, All Star Race. All Star Race. I mean, we don't want to talk about certain things about the All Star Race yet, but I want to talk about something where I will admit that my opinion changed drastically during the race. When I got there, I was absolutely kind of pissed off at where the car numbers were going to be located. But I got there and saw it live. There were three paint schemes I thought were absolutely hideous in the All-Star race.

The 41 was bad. You couldn't see the one in the number. Didn't really see a lot of branding. The 19, which is one of my favorite paint schemes on the cars, normally. It was terrible. You couldn't read the door numbers. I didn't think the logos popped. Hands down, the worst one was a 77 car that the Haley, you know, Haley drove.

You couldn't see anything on that one. But outside of that, I saw a lot of branding opportunity for sponsors. Like when, and for some reason, some door numbers look bigger than others, but I think when we look at this moving forward in 2021, and look, I don't like, you know, changing things midseason. But 2021, man, I think we should do that. Like, I really saw a ton of sponsorship placement that could be a good thing for the sport. I mean, when you look at some of the quarter panels, even looking at the sixth car yesterday, Wyndham Resort was on there, you could barely, barely read it. We were 20 rows up. So if I'm 40 rows up and I'm a fan there, I'm not going to be able to see it.

but the way they were able to manipulate those schemes in an all-star race, T.J. I became a fan of it. I liked some of the schemes, but, man, the number needs to be the biggest thing on the door, in my opinion. You can't have the number smaller than the sponsor. The number needs to be, needs to be bigger than a sponsor, in my opinion. Because it's the first, some of them cars I looked at, and the first thing I saw was a sponsor, not the number. I don't know. I think, I didn't, I didn't hate it. I hated the lights. that didn't match the cars. They needed to, if you're going to do neon lights, like it, the color didn't matter at all.

Like, it needed to match to your car. Like, if you had a yellow car, we should be running a yellow light so it matched. I didn't understand why they were just in the back, Freddie. Like, I felt like the cars were farting. Yeah, I was about to say. I just felt like they were farting the color of the rainbow. Yeah, I get it.

I thought it was going to be like Kurtz in the out. That's what they advertised. Yeah. Which, I mean, maybe they will, but I will say on the side of the sponsor on the sides, from a TV perspective, like I saw, I could see every sponsor. So I know at track, it's obviously challenging, but I thought, I thought it looked pretty good for what it was.

I think if you're going to do that, I mean, why not do what like EMSA does there? And in the back window there, not the back glass, but behind the C post or B post, behind the, they never do it again. Behind the B post, run, you know, run the number where your position is or something like that. If you're going to, I don't know, I don't hate that at EMSA because you can, you least you know where you're running. You know what if you're, I don't know, that might be helpful for the fans at some point. As far as the, I liked most of the pain schemes, like you said, I didn't like, it was weird because a lot of them, I didn't like them on a render.

And then you see it on the car and it looked a lot better. And Junior was talking about that on his show about, you know, a lot of them renders are like from a die cast company so it doesn't lay out right on the car. So I was fine with most of them. Like you said, I think number size number placement was the biggest thing. Like the Stewart Hoss cars for some reason, their numbers are really high. on the door, which I think if you lowered them down, their schemes are a lot better. It looked like the Gibbs cars had the numbers shrunk for some reason.

So, you know, obviously just number placement and one logo versus some cars had two or three different sponsors up there, which I thought looked terrible. But, yeah, and the lights, you know, obviously you get a false sense of, you know, false advertising there because Kurt's car looked great at that burnout competition. But you got to remember, Kurt's cars raised up off the ground. You can see in the wheel wells. You know, you put the light. I think you still put the lights on there and see what shining.

because it looks stupid just under the back, but you're not going to get that same effect that Kurt had because you're going to get a lot less light out of the front and the sides because we're so sealed off. But, you know, I mean, it was try something, and I think I would be okay with the paint schemes moving forward. I don't know about the lights. And, I mean, if you're going to have lights,

yeah, you want to have brand awareness. That's what they were doing it for. But, you know, like the, I thought the Toyota's and the Chevy's look too similar. I think the underglows a little much. Yeah, I don't. But, like, what if, what if for a night race, you were allowed to put a strip down the top where your roof rails are or something to match your car.

You know what I mean? Like what if you're going to Dayton or something like that? You know, night race Dayton or anywhere at night race. And you wanted to put, you know, and you can change those LED lights to any color that you want. They've got millions of colors you can put on. Imagine matching up the petty blue down the roof rails glowing coming off turn four, I mean, yeah.

I mean, I think if you want to have brand awareness, you know, I don't think you need to do the whole car. I mean, make yourself a damn light up, light up emblem on the hood you know all the Chevy emblems light up yellow all the Ford emblems light up blue all the all the Toyota's light up red you know just the damn little emblem on the hood yeah but then you're yeah but then like I mean yeah I mean it's not for it's not for us you know it's not for a spot it's more for the people on TV to identify with the brand I'm just saying no manufacturer on Twitter you you saw there were there were some tweets about like how there are kids never watched NASCAR and now they're like mesmerized because the cars looked so cool and things like I thought the feedback overall was good yeah I'm fine with I just thought it looked dumb just under the back the Chevroles looked like they were on fire yeah you know yeah I don't know it just it just didn't match the cars car numbers car number movement thumbs up do it whoever came up with that idea if I told you you were crazy I'd take it back you were

smart whoever came up with LEDs on the rear only you're still not smart so unfortunately we can't all win it feels the same guy the good news is you get to keep your job yeah you broke even yeah you broke even by hitting 500 about on track for All-Star. What do you guys think? We're going to talk about that. If you read the show sheet that you're supposed to lead, you know we're going to get there. I did. I really like that race. I'm sorry. You like that race?

I thought it was a great. I thought it was interesting. I had some tire troubles going up there. Didn't know if I had a flat tire or a caliber issue or whatever. It ended up in a service station right there. Downtown Bristol, the guy was awesome. Got me right back on the road. But there was a lot of traffic, man, in front of the racetrack. Like, I got there a few hours before. and it probably took me a good 30 minutes, thanks to Freddie. He's kind of spotting for me to tell me which lane to get in and not get in.

Yeah, a lot of fans, though. It was cool. Yeah. Y'all rode together? No. I thought I saw you driving separate. Did you see any issues with all the fans? I mean, obviously, it's been a while since we've had that many fans in the same.

That's a funny thing is, like, I see some of the comments on Twitter, and I've seen some of our media people. And clearly, we can't control what the broadcast puts on TV and when they put it on TV. but, you know, maybe it was one or two percent of the race where people weren't being responsible at the end or they were excited about a moment or something. But for what I've seen at Bristol and for what I've seen at Texas, everybody was social distancing. Everybody had masks on until they got to their seat and everybody was spread out, man. I mean, I can't say enough positive things about what I saw at those two racetracks. Clearly, there must have been moments that TV decided to show. But, hey, they showed us on TV and act like we weren't social distancing at Darlington and we 100% were.

Oh, absolutely. You know, as far as face masks go, you know, I'm not a doctor. I don't pretend to be one on Twitter. But if Freddie and I are eight or 10 feet apart, why do we have to wear a face mask? So if a fan is, you know, let's say it's a driver. If he gets out of the car and he won the race and they're not, you know, they're making him wear a face mask. And the person asking him questions is six to eight feet from him. Why?

Like, I mean, again, I think the optics of it is part of it. But, man, it's time to let these crew guys in Victory Lane. I saw some tweets about that last night. The crew guys are around the drivers and the haulers when they're changing. They're around the drivers when he's getting in the car. And it's too hard to win these damn races to not at least let us go in there and stand in the background for a picture. Yeah, I mean, you look at the one guy, the one guy was social distancing his ass off.

He climbed a fence to get away from some people at Bristol. I mean, Jesus. Listen, if you're a drunk fan, we fully support drunk fans. Do not climb the fence. God. Just begging to go to jail. Yeah, Richmond. Yeah.

Well, that guy, he got way up. Didn't we meet his daughter or something? Yeah. Like, she was at a hotel or something. Yeah, she was like... He was sitting on top of the fence. Yeah, he was... I'd have been scared.

He was Freddie drunk, like I said. He got 30 days in jail and banned for life. Yeah. He probably deserved it. I mean, he had the best seat in the house. The cars were driving underneath him. That guy. But I saw a boy climbing the fast.

He's like, what the hell's that? I'm like, that's right now. I was almost home when that race ended. But yeah, that's another story. So, Brett, you look like you had a great Texas race. Me? Yes. I finished 11th with a wrecked car, and we ran in the back for most of the day,

and I watched that tire put on a shit race for four hours, 500 miles of it. That is the worst tire that Good Year's ever made. I will go out on limb and say that. I completely disagree. I think that's one of the best tires Good Year's ever made. because I run 108 laps on my right side yesterday. So I think that's a, I thought that was a pretty great. You almost cost me at stage point.

T.J. and I ran around each other for a while. And, you know, we were probably running 10th to 12th at the time. And we made some changes there during a green flag stop. And at this point, T.J. has managed to get some track position. And he's running up there in the top three. I am in the 20s. and then let Blaney go. And we race Blaney hard too.

But TJ caught me. TJ was running second. I was running 24th. And for 20 laps, TJ could not pass me. And that's because of this tire. That's because of how good this tire is to Freddy's point or how bad it looks on TV racing to my point. We caught you and got stuck. And we tried to pass you a couple times.

Can't. And we couldn't. So here comes third, fourth, fifth. all lined up. So we had like a freight train building behind him, but you couldn't do anything. And you couldn't afford to try to pass anymore because when you went down there and tried to make a pass, the guy behind you just fills the top. Kevin Hamlin and I were texting about it last night. The only passing we saw all day for the most part was when guys caught a lap car and it bogged them down and the car behind them was able to get a run and drive by him. That's how we lost the lead.

It's the only thing that made the race somewhat exciting was the cars in the 50s and the guy driving the buckshot number. I saw a couple times your guy just was a Kenseth. He just drove into one and just shipped him up the track. Like, it's like, I can't, I see, we were like 20 cars in front of you guys, and I was watching that battle because I knew Clint was better, and I'm like, we're going to just ride here the whole race, I guess, unless Clint gets around the 42, and he'd get to the bottom, get to the bottom, and Matt would race him hard, and finally Clint just got on his buffer and shoved him up out of the groove in one and two.

It was probably the same thing, probably 15 to 20 laps of that. Kenseth had more damage than we had in terms of arrow-wise, and Clint just got tired of it. And literally, after he did it, he came out of ready, I was like, sorry I had to do that, but I'm tired of it. But unfortunately, that's what this tire and this package creates for a race. So you're saying I should have shipped you up to track? I'm not saying you shouldn't have. I mean, how many times you want me to say, hey, that's P2 behind you? He's cleared

by seven. And then we keep racing you. I mean, it's a decision. But I think Joey's raced everybody so aggressively over the past few years. I mean, even when there was one point in a race where we caught you, we actually ended up passing you for 10th or 11th at that point. But you were on our door, on our door, on our door. And I think like guys like Clinton are probably like, you, Joey, I'm done with you. I think that's probably what that was. I think, I think I think Clint was like that to everybody at that point. He was not having a good time. How about, oh, Clint got the leaf blower on him there.

What the hell was going on there? Was that a red, what, was that just a pit stop? Did you see it? I said the picture to you and Clint last night. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know what, when that was. I guess that was on TV. Maybe that's when we lost all our track position.

Hey, listen, we can't go back. I'm not going back out there. Somebody cools me down a little bit. Speaking of Texas, I just seen something roll by the shop window here behind you guys, and it was the nine car all tore to pieces. He had another revengeful day on Saturday, didn't he? I bet it was on casters. It was on casters.

Because it was not going to roll. I mean, how do you do that? We talked about it last week on here. Just Noah being aggressive. Noah's kind of not giving a hell. Not coming to crap what anybody thinks about. And he goes out there lap five and just packs air all over the 18 and doesn't get off him until the 18 pounds of fence.

I mean, at some point, some kind of common sense has got to come in here. I mean, at this point right now, I don't care how fast no it is. He's almost got no shot of the championship because somebody is going to cost him his championship or a shot at the championship before the end of the year. We've talked about it. There's aggressive driving and then there's over-aggressive driving

where you actually make contact and you send people to the wall, man. You can't keep doing that. You can race hard. There's a difference. I mean, I think so, don't you? I mean, I only can say what I've read for stats and that was that he's been involved.

In 12 of 16 races, he's been involved in an incident or an accident. that's 75% of the time you buckle your seatbelts, you're hitting something. That's not okay. That's too much. That's too far. You have people in this same building that we're sitting in that are mad at you. Probably people on your same team, literally, that are mad at you because of how you're racing people.

So, you know, I mean, Dale Jr. now is in the booth, and he's having to address it. And from what I saw on Twitter, he was being very objective about it. But maybe Dale Jr. realizes at this point that he's got to sit down with him and go, hey, dumbass, stop. That's enough. Yeah. I mean, you put Junior in a spot where on TV, he has to say, yeah, that's on Noah. You know what I mean? I mean, it was like, what lap was that with the 18th?

Oh, it was early. I mean, you got a whole race to figure out. At one point, Clint was 24th. Thought it was going to be the end of his day. 50 laps later, he's unlapped, gets way, you know, weighs around Lucky Dog. I think you got a lucky dog. I was running 30th. I got to ask.

Exactly. I was in the top 10 with like 10 to go. Yeah. I mean, look, we all know what we, I got to ask you this about the thing. Maybe I wasn't on VDP, but. So the caution comes out. DVP. Whatever the f*** is called.

The caution comes out. All right. I'm the lucky dog. My crew chief tells me we're on the damage policy. Okay, well, the rule is you can't be involved in the wreck and get the lucky dog. So I'm sitting there wondering like, well, either I'm not the lucky dog and I got to fix my car or I am the lucky dog and I could take all day to fix my car. And so maybe my crew chief had it wrong on that one, but I was sitting there going, I'm kind of confused. But that, my friends, was a wreck.

on the front stretch that was a plate style wreck I thought we were done because the 19 came straight across the track in front of me and I thought he was going to T-bonous or we were going to hit him and we somehow missed him where we were at on the spotter stand

we're typically above that and see can see holes the wreck was coming Casey directly straight at us like when Martin got turned a hole head on to the wall the first thing I see is his car coming at me and I'm like oh they're wrecking good luck there was cars at angles that you normally don't see right there but for a fan like where

i was sitting for a fan like that would have been awesome i mean that was a great wreck for a fan sitting in that area i got an interesting stat from that wreck basically so ryan priest gets tore up in that wreck he was right behind us and it's last for the third week in a row three weeks in a row how do you how is that i mean this poor kid i mean in a lot of it you know indy's not him it's he's in the middle of that chain reaction dealing on pit road wrecks Last week, he breaks a transmission running decent, you know, last. This week, he's, like we said, you know, a wreck like that happened. I mean, he was right behind me.

I don't know, you know, just it's chain reaction. Maybe he needs to get back on the show to get some luck. He pal drove us into the wreck and killed his own car. So, I mean, but I feel so bad for this kid. I mean, he is a hell of a race car driver and cannot get any luck. And, I mean, I don't know when it's going to change for him. I hope it's soon. But, I mean.

This is a kid that proved he can win races in, in Gibbs equipment in their Xfinity cars. He's a kid that's proven himself. And, you know, he's a great race car driver. I met Forrest Mars, who obviously was CEO of him. Forrest, Mars? Faris. Mars?

As in Mars family. Mars. Yeah. And there was a guy named Mike Murphy that worked for him, who was the first non-Mars CEO in Mars history. And we were sitting down, and Elliot had made some things that gone not our way, not necessarily in our control, but not our way. And they looked at him and they said, I don't know how you lost your last job, but I'm going to tell you how you're going to lose this one.

Keep making these mistakes or keep being a part of this misfortune. I feel like that applies to Ryan Priest here, whether it's your doings or not. Ryan Priest has got to stop, and this is obvious. He's got to stop finishing last. You know, last year at this Texas race, he was running top 10. He ran top 10 and was actually pretty competitive. Yeah, I mean, he wasn't going to run top 10 yesterday, but he was solidly right around 20th. You never know.

You never know. I don't think you were going to run top 10 either. He was ahead of me and we ended up top 10, so he might have been in it. You know, you stay out late like them guys did. You never know what's going to happen. He could have got to feel only and won the race. Yeah. Who knows?

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Oh, my don't like it. Spot off, you don't like it, and you say why either way. First topic. Michael McDowell turns Bubba Wallace in the All-Star Open. Freddie, I know you have a lot to say about us. Freddie can just have all of our time. Yeah, go for it. I mean, this deal here with Michael wasn't even the worst part about the whole thing,

but, you know, it is what it is. He hooked us. I don't think there's any debate about that. I mean, it's the, I put up a chicken-ass emoji on there. And I wasn't called Michael a chick-chick. I just calling the move a chicken to hook a guy straight into the fence, especially with the pick gate back there. But, you know, I understand it from Michael's point.

He's frustrated. You got to, you know, you draw the pole. You got a 35 lap stage. You're thinking, you're going in the race thinking, man, I just got to get out front. And I could probably hang on when they weren't good enough. And the first place, the second. Eric caught him for the lead, booted him out of the way. Okay, now you're even more frustrated.

Ricky caught him for second. Booted him out of the way. Now you're more frustrated. We caught him for third. booted him out of the way, and he hooked us. And I get it. You're mad. So, I mean, I don't know.

I would rather you kind of, you know, that point in the race, I think it was lap 10 or 15. You've thrown both of our races away. Now, you took us out. You took yourself out. Now, neither one of us have a chance to race for a million dollars. So I don't know. I mean, I just thought it was pretty overaggressive for that point in the race. I was spot on for the whole thing because it made me look like a genius.

I said on last week's show that the fan vote winner should be announced before the show. but we didn't get the fan vote. Should have been forward. How do you know you didn't get the fan vote? Well, they said after the race you guys had it the whole time. They said that we were the overall fan vote winner. That could easily be spun. Do you think?

I mean, I've done PR before. That could easily be spun. Okay, so where are the fan vote results? Are they live online now that we need to be able to see them to trust people? Like, I'm not buying into the whole thing. I just go back to what I said last week. If people took their time to invest and vote and Clint was the true winner, announced them before the race.

If Bubba's a true winner, announced him before the race. It's crazy that we had all of that drama around that incident based solely on whether or not Bubba was going to win the fan vote. When we both know, we all three know that Bubba was racing, very aggressive to race his way in so that he didn't need the fan vote, but TJ really didn't matter at the end of the day. I think Bubba had a shot of racing his way in. I do.

I mean, he's pretty good at Bristol, and he had decent track position. So I think Bubba had a good shot at racing. We were ahead of William. We were passing him for third. William was fourth, and the way it shook out, William got the lead on the next stage and won the stage. And I don't think our car was really good. I don't think there's any reason why we couldn't have done that. But I was going to say this for the rant section, but I guess I'll just dive into it right now because I was pretty fired up about it.

Obviously, Bubba's put himself kind of on an island here and kind of polarize himself to where you either love him or you hate him right now. And that's, it is what it is. You know, you don't have to agree with what he says. I don't agree with a lot of stuff he says sometimes. but it is his opinion and he's always going to give it. And, you know, we had fans back at Bristol and they did the intros and I heard the boo birds come out and that's expected. That's fine.

That's your opinion. I'm used to. Yeah, bud. I mean, you could boo them all day if you want to. But when a guy gets right hooked into the fence head on and you cheer for that, I heard a bunch of, I mean, I heard a eruption of cheers going down. If you're cheering for that, you're a piece of shit. I mean, you're a full-blown piece of shit.

And you don't know what's going on in that car. You don't know if he's hurt. I mean, we hit the corner of a pit gate. So now you're going to cheer. I mean, if you want to get out when he gets out, all right, great. You want to then throw reins of booze at him and whatever. But, I mean, if you're a person that can cheer when somebody gets hit and hits a wall head on, that you have no place in this sport.

And, I mean, if you can debate it with me if you want, I'm not hard to find. You know where I'm at, Freddie Craft on Twitter, Freddie Craft on everything. I'm sure the people that will respond to me, I got dogs for profile pictures or 75 numbers in their name, but whatever. I mean, I just, I can't understand how you. you can sit there and cheer for some cheer when you see a guy hit the wall like that. But we've always seen that. That's not just above a specific thing.

No, no, I'm not saying. There was an error. I remember being a kid and seeing the same thing, man. When Earnhardt got right, everybody loved Earnhardt. And then all of a sudden, it flipped and everybody hated Earnhardt. And when he got crashed, people did the same thing. They erupted. You know, I mean, there were times at Bristol where, despite the fact that there were 43 cars out there,

screaming motors, you'd see Jeff Gordon get wrecked and you would hear the, the, the, the scream over the engines, you know, where people are erupting. And I don't know that they're cheering that Bubba got wrecked as much as they are just the excitement. But I certainly, it's definitely not just a Bubba thing. No, I'm not saying it. It's anybody, whether it's Kyle Bush, you know, I'm sure it's happened to Kyle Bush where, you know, I mean, we spun him out last year, Waukins Glen in the place went nuts. But, you know, when you see a guy pound the fence like that, I don't understand how you can cheer. I mean, this happens, like, what happened to Kentucky?

All the guy are wrecked in that he collected that other kid. And that other kid tweeted at him. Like, thanks, Justin. That's when, you know, it was coming out that Justin was going to the hospital. Even though it was unrelated to the wreck still, though, man. You don't know that at the time. None of us knew that at the time. And I'm sure he didn't know either.

You know, you don't ever want to see. At the end of the day after these races are over, man. Everyone, it's still a family. It's still, everyone knows everybody. And, you know, it's still a family. family, really competitive on the racetrack, which is how it should be. That's what I tweeted last week. After that deal, what McDowell on Wednesday, I was obviously, I was irate.

You know what I mean? To see that happen, take his way a shot to win the race. But then I go back and look that night, and everybody's, you know, Michael Dowell's a piece of crap. Michael McDowell's in the way. He's always in the way. He's trash. I'm like, no, he's not.

I mean, the guy's a nice guy. I mean, he's one of the nicest guys up there. I see him on the plane every week. And, and I don't know. I guess he just got reached, you know, the straw, the camel's back. I was really waiting for you to tweet him, want to meet him at Applebee's. To go off now? I mean, I don't, listen.

You know, that's for the drivers to, you know, duke it out. Yeah. I mean, if Rocky was a little bigger, I might have went down there and fought him, but I'm not, you know, he's, I wouldn't, he's, that's out of his weight class, I don't think. But, you know, I don't know. It's just, I don't understand why you got to take it to that level, but it is what it is. I mean, you kind of put yourself in that position. I mean, it's, it's kind of weird, you know, like if I'm sitting here and I act like I don't work in the sport and I'll listen to everything you just said.

If I'm in a boxing match and a dude gets knocked out, people cheer. You know what I mean? And you don't know if he's hurt or not. You don't know if he's got a concussion or not. And yet, you know, if Freddie and I were sitting above the wide wings and we had managed to have a little sidebed on a UFC fight, we see somebody get choked out. Like, we're going to cheer. I think it's just sports.

Like I know you're taking it personal because it's Bubba. I know that if it were Elliott or Clint or whoever, I would take it personal. I think it's just sports, man. I mean, when you see the dude come across the middle in a game and he gets nailed and he fumbles a ball up in the air and it's Steve Largent, he's laying there with his arms straight up in the air, concussed. Like, people are still cheering the play on even though they want the guy to be okay. I think it's a lot of what we've talked about. Like, 99% of people in this world are probably good. And it's a 1% of people that are complete idiots that are chicken crap in what you said.

But, like, I don't think they mean any harm by it at the time. You're not wrong in what you're saying. But I think if we put on our sports fan hats, like sometimes we probably cheered at things we shouldn't have cheered at too. The people that are cheering for the wrong reason right there are. You know, there's a... If they're cheering, if they're cheering earwill, they're 100% of p. If they're cheering for the excitement of the event,

but still hoping that he's okay. And that's the thing, man. Like we always now, we think they're okay. You know what I mean? Like, I mean, when we watch guys like Denny Hamill walk out of these wrecks and what was the Ryan Newman, I mean, we think they're okay. So it's, I don't disagree with. you said though i'm just trying to give another side of it devil's advocate devil's advocate yeah well i do like

how they turned it into uh it being for a good cause where there's a donation obviously involved now bubba has picked a lot of things to take a side on and i've sided with him on some things i've sided against him on some things the flag i want 100% sided with him on because the confederate flag doesn't have a spot in our sport or in any sport anymore um but but i think bubba caught a lot of PR crap for bringing Jesus and God into the argument. And, and hey, I'm not Bubba's PR guy. I'm certainly not his attorney. I'm not anybody's attorney because I'm not an attorney. But if I were his counsel, I would tell him to make it about the racing for a little while. And I think that's what he did yesterday. A top 10 finish, solid day, stayed out of trouble. If he can go start doing those things,

he can gain a lot of momentum as a race car driver. And I think that's where his brand needs to grow the most. Fox doesn't show the Choose Cone during the All-Star Night broadcast. Spot on, spot off, TJ. Spot off. Could be a part of our future down the road. I don't know. Not really. I'm sure there's a reason why, but I mean, that was a,

that's a big deal, man. You're picking your lane on a restart. You kind of pick your own, you pick your destiny at that point. And there was times where two guys, three guys line up on top and a guy shot to the bottom. That's a story. Hey, look at this guy. I mean, that's something to talk about.

I'd be wanting to talk about that. So I went from 12th to 9th. I think that warrants a mention, you know, because that's all about the choose cone. I want to ask Freddie this question because Freddie and I are sports nuts. The broadcast partners aren't at the racetrack right now. NBC at this point does not intend to send their broadcast team to the track at all. So you're talking about Dale Jr., Steve LaTart, Jeff Burton, Rick Allen. They're all doing this thing from a studio.

Do you think them not being able to look out the window at the racetrack can see these things come down the pipe is affecting their ability to do a good job in some of these situations. I 100%. Yeah, absolutely. You know, I think Dale even talked about it, like, you know, especially Lattart and Burton, you know, they like to have, they like, they're not watching. Like Dale said, I basically watched the monitor and call the race as people can see it. Lattart and Jeff kind of watched what's going on in the racetrack.

They like to see the guys come to pit road, how they got to pit road, like the battle between, did they mention, like, the battle between Danny and Harvick at Indy. You know, one of them got to pit road best. better, you know, switched to the, Denny got to the lead, you know. But yeah, 100%. I just don't, I just don't understand how you don't show this. I mean, the fans have been begging for it. NASCAR made a pretty big deal about it. We've got all this hype behind the cone, and then you just come back from commercial and they're already lined up. And you're like, wait a minute. Now you've got to, now the fan has to figure out themselves. I mean, they've mentioned

a couple times on the replay that I watched, but the fans got to figure out himself, okay, well, well, Harvick was leading. He's on the top. I think Chase was second. Now he's fourth. you know, Blaney was third. He's on the front row. So now, like, people don't even know what the hell just happened, you know. So I feel like that's got to be part of the broadcast. You know, all right, here we go. You know, just a shot down the front straightaway.

You know, a speed shot from the wall, down the front straightaway. Here they're coming to the cones. They're going to pick right here, you know. That one went top, this one went top, this one went bottom. There's plenty of cameras up top aiming down at that area that you could easily. Yeah. I mean, I don't understand the thought process behind not showing it on television. But I think it, I don't know what you guys think about.

I thought it worked pretty much. I was surprised at the amount of people. I figured a couple guys would take the top behind the leader, but I was surprised at how often that happened, but just giving up the front row. I mean, I was surprised as many people gave the front row, but it still didn't. I don't think I saw anybody gain more than two or three spots at a time.

You know, I don't remember three guys ever lining up in the same row. That's the best the bottom has been at Bristol in a very long time. It wasn't the old Bristol that people referenced, but it raced a lot like the old brisk, very similar. It was so weird because, I mean, I think you tweeted something. about this but it was like you wanted the top on the restart but after a lap you wanted to be on the bottom so it's like what if you don't get clear you know i mean so i thought that's why we're guys some guys are picked the bottom pinch the guy and then the guy wouldn't be able to be in the gas off the corner

him he'd have to lift a little bit and the guy and the outside have a run so yeah pinch you yeah pinch i don't have they reach across there and get them but it was tough i just pitch tj for those you watch or listening on tv i will tell you this though you were able to maintain your position easier than you were. At least you didn't line up knowing you were at a disadvantage automatically. You didn't start third knowing you were going to go to six. Yeah, so I did like that aspect of it. And it helped for sure the pit road stuff.

You know, there's no stomping on your brakes. I heard somebody, I saw a tweet on my way home that said like, you know, somebody was calling it counting cars off pit road, a spotter. Was counting cars off pit road? And he's like, I don't even know why I was doing that. You know, just forgot because you're so used to it. Choose cone. Choose cone rest of the year.

Short tracks only. Yes or no, Freddie? I would be fine with you. You take it anywhere. TJ. Yeah. I mean, I'm fine with it. But you're going to get to a point where you're still going to count cars at some point

because you're going to want that one extra spot. You never know. You don't ever want to be behind. Yeah, exactly. Choose cone rule. You'd never want to be behind. But, I mean, if you're one further spot up, you might get that shot at the front row. You might get that shot at, you know what I mean?

I never want to be behind. Yeah, you're not going to count cars. I mean, you're not going to be racing to the end of pit road. You want to pick sooner rather than later. Yeah, no, yeah, yeah. I see what you're saying, yes. If there's four doors, I want to be able to pick first door first. Yeah, you're never going to want to let a guy go, yeah.

So, yeah, hey, you got it from us. Anonymous, unanimous, and anonymous. Anonymous. That was none of us saying. We all three vote yes to short track cheescone rest of the year. I voted for Danny Burr. And for that, NASTA is going to say no choose cone because you guys are. Probably right.

No one passes one two finishers, Austin Dillon, and Tyler Redick after they took two and zero tires, with 26 to go at Texas. Spot on, spot off. Spot off for Childress, man. One-two finish is a big accomplishment. I read online they hadn't done it since 2011. Yeah, you spot off.

He said spot off. Well, let me finish fucking. Spot on for Childress and spot off for the fact that these tires suck. They are absolutely terrible. You have got these guys out here on no tires and people behind them on four tires and they cannot pass them. This reminds me of the era when. And Ryan Newman made a name for himself of Matt Borland because of pit strategy calls. And we're back to where, hey, hats off to Childress for having great big balls.

And their crew chiefs did a phenomenal job. They got every team in the field, these guys ran anywhere from eighth. At one point, Tyler Redick was two laps down. Tyler Reddick was raising with me most of the day. He was two laps down at one point. He finished his second. They outsmarted every single crew chief in this field. anybody could have stayed out there

some teams could have stayed out or some close on field but they could have stayed out anybody could have took fuel only if harbick takes fuel only right there who wins a race harvick I mean it's if legano takes fuel only legano like wow I saw where Joey said obviously spot on

RCR we're kind of one of RCR affiliates that's good for our deal I saw where Joey said somewhere like he came off pit road like behind them were you third or fourth off pit road he's like all right these guys are sitting ducks third yeah we start a third he's like I'm good I got these guys and they just I mean they didn't check out but you couldn't touch him.

Kyle got a great resort behind the eight in the outside lane, which sucked for us because he pushed him so far up there. And, I mean, I thought we could push to three, but we were shagling in turn four. It took us about six, eight laps to get off the splitter in turn four. And finally, by like, we needed about a six-lap run at the end there. And I think we could have got back up there, but man, it's just so hard. You're never going to be able to catch them guys when you race a guy.

like Kyle. Kyle knows what he's doing. He's really good. And he's not going to give up anything. Nobody should at that point. But that's just what awesome wanted to see. He wanted to see us back there racing with Kyle. And, but yeah, I mean, spot off. I'll tell you one thing. You talk about Crew Chees making a great call. Do you see Richard Childress's tweet last night or Richard Tritchell's comments? I saw a tweet with his comments in it. So he says, I mean, this kind of rubbed me the wrong way. I was wondering why Brett said the crewchees made the call. Yeah, because Chiljus comes out, puts on

in a post-r race interview. Yeah, so I was back in the RCR command center, and the command center made the call to not put tires on. So you just kicked your two crew chiefs square in the balls. Wow. Like, yeah, we were back in the command center, and the call to put no tires and two tires on came

from the command center. So it's either, I don't know if he's patting himself on the back, patting whoever's in that, Andy Petrie, or who is ever in there competition-wise, Eric Warren. There was only one call that was going to give you a chance to win the race, and they made call. I mean, I, listen, whoever made the call great, but you don't need to come out publicly and just say that was me or us that made that call, not the crew chiefs.

I wouldn't have put it past those crew chiefs to make that call themselves. So, I mean, so RCR has a, they have a program. We've talked about it on here that kind of tells you what to do. You know, and I don't know if they filed that this time or not, but they literally have a program that says, you know, in this situation with whatever 18 to go, you do two and this much fuel or none and this much fuel or no fuel and whatever, two tires. So, I mean, that might have been based off of that, maybe that's the command center the call came from. But, I mean, yeah, the tire yesterday was awful. Can you imagine Siri's voice telling you what to do over the radio?

In this situation, you are going to take fuel only. Thanks, Coochee, here's your quarter million odd bonus for that win. You talk about how ridiculous the tire was yesterday. So we come down pit road, I don't even know where we were. We were probably 10th or 11th. and uh hello freddie craft only take two tires on this restart press clear for one if it was my deal on Twitter if it was my

series we'd be coming down pit road you go I'm sorry can you repeat that we'd be drive through the box but uh so you know we're coming down pit road there at the end and Jerry says well the fastest we've been all day is just on left sides so I mean we're not even we can't put four on because we're faster with just left side tires I mean the tire was so screwed up yesterday like I said we ran DJ, that was a nice block you through. We're going to be listening to the the rest of the show now.

Brett cracks himself up with somebody doesn't stop saying it. I got tickled right there. Dear Casey, it is time to move on. Hey, Quinn Huff, Rex trying to pit from the middle of the track and tweets an apology video

from his account with the username P1 Huff. I don't know why we put the username in there. There's a very good reason we put the username in there because it says P1. Freddie, spot on, spot off. Oh, so anyway. Spot on. Spot on. For me, help me get great, help me maintain great track position. What's the, what's the, yeah, I mean, honestly, spot on for me. It helped me, too. It's tough with you out there, too. But, I mean, so listen to this. Here's, I don't know if I told you guys this yesterday or not. So I'm rolling in the morning, and we use Starcom Food Service is our cook in the

infield. Andy comes. Andy's a great chef. I mean, this guy, he's unbelievable. He makes great food best I've ever had in the infield anyway. So I'm rolling in yesterday. I stopped by Andy to see what he's got because he's there right outside the tunnel there. And Andy's like, I got pork chops, mac of cheese.

I'm like, ah, it's 100 degrees outside. I'm probably just not going to eat anything. That's really good for your body. Yeah. Well, I don't know if you can notice, but I'm working on pretty good reserves over here. So Andy goes, I don't know who's, everybody's got masks on over there, so I don't know who the hell's who. So Andy, as I'm talking to him, goes, hey, you need to stop making fun of my boy right here on your show every week. That's Quinn Huff.

It was Quinn Huff. And I'm like, he didn't listen. I said, well, your boy need to stop doing stupid B. And we won't make fun of him no more. And I don't think he got that advice. Because, my God. And listen, he, listen, he, I'll say it here, he put a lot of it on his spotter when I was, He said, oh, you know, sometimes I don't get information on a...

Oh. But yesterday, I don't care what information you had. If you're in the third lane and you... He said, oh, I don't have... He said, what happened last night was, what I heard last night, he told a couple different people, Tom and the drivers, Tom Ligman Spots for him, and Quinn Huff driver, both said that the crew chief called him to Pitt Road. He was into three already, and he just pit.

And the kid said, I don't have a left-side mirror, so I didn't see if there's anybody down there. Well, there's three cars in your mirror, in your rearview mirror, getting into three. So you should know that you can't come from the spotter stand and turn four out there where RMN is and just hang a left and come to Pitt Road. Like, you cannot be that unaware. It's not possible. And if NASCAR does not step in soon, this kid is going to hurt himself. He's going to hurt somebody else.

He pounded the fence yesterday after that deal. I mean, somebody with some kind of sense has to step in here and save this kid from himself. This is why communication, I don't know why they had to pit that quick or what the emergency was, but this is where a lot of teams, when the crew chief wants to drive her on pit road, he goes through Channel 2 into the spotter, and then it becomes a spotter's job to get that driver there. and obviously you see there's there is like strategy and safety to it at the same time like okay well you know to play race hey we're getting close to our we're getting close to guys start working to the bottom here because you can't pit from the second lane and this is where you know the the crew chief

probably needed to go to the the spotter and be like hey I need them I need them as soon as you can get them down here you know and then it becomes a spotter's job to get that guy safely to the bottom but sometimes on these other deals you've got crew chiefs that'll just, you know, key up. Hey, pit, now, now, I need you now. Like, what's the big emergency? Does he have a tire going down? What's the big emergency, you know? I mean, he knows if he has a loose wheel or a tire going down.

I mean, what couldn't have waited one extra lap right there? The crew chief should never be the one, especially if he can't see the car. Like, I'm fine with Jerry, if we're going out of front stretch and Jerry wants a key up and go, you know, if we're going by him and start finishing on, he wants a key up and say, all right, brother, come this time. That's fine. but like if you can't see if you have crew chief and you can't see your car so that's why just go through the spotter i'm kind of i'm not like defending him but like he was without you know that info

and if you're into three already and the crew chiefs you know in the guy the kid's just listening to the crew chief because that's what he i mean you listen to the crew chief but yeah that's what i'm saying like you can't like boy this guy's full of excuses you need to have more awareness he's blaming the spotter he's blaming his mirror he's blaming the late notice hate Huff. By the way, I didn't know what you looked like until last night when you put your video out. So, you're actually a pretty cute kid. So cute that we invited you on to the show today to tell your end of the story. You invited them on? We invited them on. I sent him a tweet and I said, hey, man, we'd love to have you on to tell your side of the story. But I want to tell you this.

In this situation, you have to be more aware. You have to know a car's inside of you. And if you don't know a car's inside of you, because you don't have a mirror, that's one thing. If you don't know a car's inside of you because your spotter's not telling you, that's another thing. You can fix that situation. If you're being told down the backstretched to pit, you wave your hand and you get to the bottom of the racetrack. It's like they opened a crossover gate and you were coming back from Chick-fil-A across the street and they told you to, hey, man, we got 40 cars out here running wide open. Try to shoot across the racetrack here and get in the infield.

You can't pit from the top lane, dumbass. It doesn't matter at what point of the race this is. You have to get to the bottom in order to pit. We fight for the bottom now in the back to run the bottom of three and four to pit. So your unawareness is on you. You're holding the steering wheel. You're holding the brake. Oh, by the way, you've got another huge mirror in your car that allows you to see a lot of what's going on.

So if you don't know what's going on, man, that's on you. You're wrecking every single week, that's still on you. Check fillet with clothes yesterday. I mean, you cannot, this cannot. So was this guy's brain. I mean, I really, really don't like to pile on the kid. Yeah, wish you guys go to the next question. He leaves you no choice.

Yeah, let's change the topic. By the way, Quinn, change your sweater handle. Casey, do you know what P1 stands for in racing? I'm asking you a serious question. You said you didn't understand why we said his Twitter handle. Yes. What does it stand for? Number one.

Number one position. It means position one is in. You're the leader. How many times you've seen Quinn Huff P1? That's why his Twitter handles in this question. Next question. I wanted to play. I forgot about this.

I wanted to play a little game here. Might have GoPro P1 once. So Quinn Huff, I looked it up last night. Kyle Larson ran four races. Quinn Huff has run all of them. Kyle Larson has 121 points. Quinn Huff has 88. Do we think before the playoffs start

that Quinn Huff can catch Kyle Larson? Oh. How many races we got eight? Eight. He's going to get four a race. He's going to get three or four. He got three yesterday. Ooh.

We're taking an over and over and over and that? We'll have to. I don't think so. I don't think so either. I don't think you. I don't think so. So you run 26 races. and this guy ran four

I don't think he gets there wow we'll have to track that we'll have to get our fantasy statistician there to track that for us but yeah it'll be fun to follow along all right I'll repeat the question spot on spot off Denny Ham one says I love the Smith family but they go rogue sometimes when it comes to thinking they're in the competition business spot on spot off

spot on I think these racetrack promoters have put themselves into the competition business more so than what they need to be. And I say that because when we got to Kentucky, they had put down PJ1 overnight and didn't tell a single soul. They need to be worried about selling tickets. They need to leave the surface that has already been laid and the tire that has already been built

and the car construction that has already been made. They need to leave it up to brighter people to be making these decisions. I'm not a fan of adding more grip. We've taken away the high groove at a lot of these racetracks like Texas yesterday. I mean, we used to see these guys run the wall at three and four as the runs went on. And you couldn't run anywhere yesterday, but right in the PJ1. I mean, it's a one group racetrack. The only thing making it exciting is lap cars and Quinn Huff reckoned at the end.

I mean, he saved the day for NASCAR in terms of making this exciting. So they normally don't put anything on Kansas, do they? That's an ISC track, NASCAR track now. I don't think they do. I don't think they do. This PJ1 is more of a Bruton-Smith track thing. Like, sometimes it's, you. Sometimes it's place, like, the racetracks can be good.

When racetracks get character, like Kentucky used to have a lot of character. It used to be really like Texas, the same exact way. I used to love going there and watching them guys sling around the top after the tires would wear out, and, you know, that's where they would find their grip. I remember watching McMurray run there, and I know, you know, everybody thinks about Dale Jr. and them guys being really good running the top back then, but, man, McMurray, McMurray was better at than what a lot of people gave him credit for as well. he was usually one of the first ones to really enter high,

not even leave the wall on entry. Like Chase at Homestead, Chase was not even turning off the wall at Homestead. I mean, I'd watch him going to the corner and be like, oh, gosh, is he going to hit it? And I'm wondering, how do they do that? How do they do that? Like, these racetracks have character. Michigan, same way.

We've had some great races back in the day. In Atlanta, Atlanta is one of the places that made a great decision. You know what? This place is really hard to drive, but we're going to leave it. It's a great racetrack. Atlanta's one of my favorite racetracks just because of, man, look at it. It wears out. It's rough.

It's hard to get grip. When these guys don't have any grip, we have great racing. Man, I hate it for them, you know, I mean, you look at the worst three races we've had this year. Charlotte, Kentucky, Texas. Indy. Well, Indy, but Indy's always pretty bad. And those are all, they've got something in common. They're all SMI tracks.

And I hate it for them, Marcus and them guys, because I feel like they do. the best they can to put, you know, enhance the fan experience and put on the best show. And right now their racetracks just don't jive with this package. And now you try to do something with this PJ1 to help it. And you really almost make it worse to where now you have to run in the PJ1. You can't move around at all. So I don't know what the answer is. You know, obviously it's pretty fresh pavement on Texas, pretty fresh pavement on Kentucky.

But Charlotte's worn out and we still, you know, this package doesn't work there for whatever reason. And so, I mean... There's got to be another way at these tracks to make the track have less grip in certain areas. Like, I don't remember when they... I think they've experienced that. You know, I heard when Marcus was on Dale's show, he talked about, you know, using different kinds of asphalt

and different, you know, different grit and stuff, trying to, trying to, or not, you know, when they pave the track, not polish it at the end, so it's not as smooth as it is, you know, maybe when they repave somewhere else, you know. Yeah. But I just, it's just not helping right now for whatever reason, you know, and you look at a place like Charlotte,

whatever, you know, for whatever reason, Charlott's as black as the ace of spades forever. You know what I mean? Like, I don't know what they did there, but it doesn't, you know, places we go, other places we go pave. It's like, it's fresh asphalt for a year. And then it's weather the next time you go back. You can see it lighting it up and turning gray. Yeah. Where Charlott's as black as ever was. I don't, so I don't know. I hate it for Marcus and them because I don't want to say they go rogue. I don't think they're trying to hurt the sport. Obviously, they want their racetracks to put on the best show.

But, I mean. I think Denny's saying going rogue is they go do it and they don't consult with NASCAR. They don't consult with any drivers. They don't consult with any owners. They don't consult with manufacturers. Saturday night, they decide, hey, let's go put some more traction compound. And that's 17% more grip to this one lane. That's kind of going rogue.

Oh, yeah. I mean, 100%. I mean, like we talked about last week, you said it last week. You know, at that point, it's your facility. You're putting on the show. You're not in charge of what goes on on the racetrack. I'm not sure you can ask the drivers either because every single driver is going to have a different opinion of what fits them the best. So I think, but the drivers obviously help, I think.

You know, you saw where they helped out Phoenix. They put the PJ1 a lot better, you know, drivers went to him and said that's, where you put it is useless. We need it down lower. I think we should ask Quinn Huff. Yeah. They want to do the whole track. He'll say we should make rights.

I want to turn around. But Del Earnhardt used to sit at the back of that NASCAR truck a lot of Saturday after a happy hour. Matthew Dillner's seen it happen. He'd go walk in that truck because he didn't like the way something was going. And he and Big Bill had a good enough relationship. to where they knew that they both wanted the same thing, which was the best for the sport,

not the best for an individual. And we missed that voice right now. We don't have that voice in a garage. We haven't had it in a very long time, probably since Jeff Gordon hung up his helmet. You know, we've had guys that can go out there and throw fits like Kyle Busch and try to use the media to get his point across,

but we don't have a big bill, Dale Earnhardt relationship in that garage right now. Old Kyle Busch, did you see that quote yesterday? What did he say? How does somebody drive through the grass like that? He said something, yeah. Just, you know, how'd you do that or something? Yeah.

KFB, buddy. Then took a drink. KFB. You know what that means? I don't know what that stands for. Yeah. Kyle F. Bush.

I actually liked that. He's finally doing something with his brand that I like. KFB. It's pretty funny. Hey, we got a hell of a battle for the playoffs right now. Yeah. Jimmy Jam is, I think Jimmy Jam is last one in and then. Oh, yeah.

14th. Yeah. And, yeah, 14th or 15th. I think he's 15th. 15th. in. Austin's in. No, Austin's 14.

Speaking of Jimmy. He was fast yesterday, man. Jimmy had a good car. He was real fast right up until he wrecked it. Did he hit the wall by himself? Did he? I don't know. I don't either.

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Christopher Bell nail us from behind after we blocked him or stood up in front of him or got tight or whatever. It was really hard to wreck the car, so to see these guys wrecking, it had to be some pretty hard contact. I think the last time I saw a wreck like that at the second dog, was when Del Jr. drove through the grass. Oh, yeah. Yeah, and I finished watching the rest of that race on my couch at home. I think he tried to get out early that day. That was a rain out, too.

We did get out of early. Yeah, like, lap one. It was a rain out. It was early. Question number two, the All-Star race lasted a total of 44 minutes. Was it too short? T.J. I think some of the stages might have been a little short.

I think you can lengthen some of them up a little bit. There's a good race in there. I think it could still. sand to be a little bit longer because that lets guys cars come in, tires and stuff, play a little more. Ready? Yeah, I mean, for sure, the last stage needs to be longer. You need to have an option to pit there. There's no, it's a no-brainer to stay out with 15 laps if you're Chase Elliott.

So you need to have some kind of option to pit there. All-Star race started at 7 and was over at 10. So I'm not real sure. I started at 9. I'm not real sure what this. I was still there at 10 and I started at 7. And I was in the All-Star Open. That's not the All-Star race.

That's your own problem. Look, man, 45. four minutes is freaking awesome. Anytime you can turn on something and it'd be exciting for 45 minutes, that's, that's killer. That's perfect. Should the all-star race return to Bristol next year, or where should it go? Marksville. Good luck getting him to give that one up. T.J. Short track somewhere. Martinsville, Bristol, any short track. We can go to South Boston. I'd love it. SMI's not giving up the All-Star race for one. It's got to be local. You don't want these guys travel and run 20 laps in the open. So Charlotte, Bristol, Atlanta, Florida. Charlotte.

Quarter mile? There are. Any of them. Sonoma? We got a Sonoma. That might be the dumbest thing I've ever heard you say. What? You want to go somewhere? I mean, it doesn't matter for you because you're in it, but you want to go, you want these guys to travel somewhere, take all their shit to damn Atlanta or wherever. I want an exciting race. I'll be this side, T. T.J. Seriously, I got a question. If you're Rick Ware racing, Why did you go run the All-Star? You have to. You have to.

Every charter team has to run the All-Star race. You have to. What about them other guys that weren't All-Star? That aren't charter teams? They didn't go run them? No, they weren't there, I don't think. They didn't go. So if you're a charter team, you have to run the Open.

Wow. That dog out of the house. There you have it. Learned something every day on here. Even I learned something. I learned Freddie can make a dumb comment. I mean, I would love to go to Martinsville. How are you going to talk Marcus Smith?

to giving up the All-Star race. Give him something else. Yeah. Okay. Good luck. Let me know how that works out for you. I'll tell you what. If you own NASCAR and you're privately owned now, you can do whatever you want.

You tell Mark Smith, pound same. I would love it at Atlanta. I think Atlanta would be a great race to where it's, I mean, I think Atlanta would be better than Charlotte. That's like I watched Matt Weaver. Oh, yeah. It's fall off. Matt Weaver, Jason, that put that tweet out saying that Ray Evernham and Tony Stewart's series doesn't compete with NASCAR.

Matt, you're smarter than that, dude. If they put this race on CBS in the middle of a NASCAR race, they're competing with them. You have former NASCAR crew chief, former NASCAR driver. You're going to have former NASCAR drivers, All-Star Champions, Daytona 500 champions, in these cars racing.

That series 100% is going to compete with NASCAR if they keep it going. I think his point is they have said they're not trying to compete with NASCAR. Yeah, and I don't think they're going to make an I-Rock. I think it's going to have Cup guys in the races. Yeah. But I think this is a different, I don't know, we can talk about some other point, but this is just a different type. I would hope they wouldn't put them on the same time as a race and make a fan choose from that.

But I like the looks of the series. Well, but there's Xfinity and Truck Races on Friday and Saturday, so they've got to pick a day. That's right, Casey. That's right. You're going to have to race one of these seven days a week, aren't you? There's only seven to pick from. Right now we're racing on like five of them. How cool would it be to turn on the TV like on a Wednesday or Wednesday night or something

and watch them guys run, even Monday night. And I think that's key to this week for us going into Kansas, and I don't want to get off on a big tangent to know the show's taking forever. But this is the first Thursday night race we've ever run scheduled. And our Wednesday night ratings for Cup were not what I was hoping. But I've seen Monday night Xfinity Series racing do extremely well. And that's when the NFL plays, Sunday, Monday, Thursday. I got to think there's a reason for that.

This Thursday is a big, big sign for us in the future. If we have good ratings on Thursday, it opens up a lot of options. Great racetrack, too. All right, save it for the rant. Question number four, there are no plans for any series to practice before the Daytona Roadcourse race in August. Should NASCAR reconsider this decision? Freddie. Let me tell you some.

Let me tell you something. If you were at the Roval test, you would say we need practice. Brett. I think this is a logistics issue. There's so many series and so few days. I don't know how you have time. And I don't know that we have enough cars to practice, Freddie, because at the Roval, we tore up a lot of cars.

I think they're going to just save it and let it be exciting and tear them up that first lap of the race. I'm all for it, man. Facts here, most of these guys are going to have simulator time, which is really close to what the real track is going to be. It didn't matter. They had simulator time at the Roval, too. Honestly, though, this is...

There's five of them done in the first hour. This is just building the hype up for that, race, man. This is just building the hype, man. Which guy's going to sell it off down in there? I hope. It's great, man. I would love to know, and maybe Jason can pull stats on this, I would love to know what percentage of cup drivers have experience on that course. It's not many. No. It used to be a lot. And right now, in this field, it's probably gone. It might only be Kyle. Kyle just got done. Clinch running the 24 race. Kyle's run it. Clinch running. Jimmy's run it.

You're going to have guys in the field that have certainly run the 24-hour, but it'd be cool to see who they are. Gosh, Cindrick and AJ are going to have a battle. Yeah. Cendrick is going to be tough. Question number five. Will we see a third consecutive driver win their first race of the season Thursday night at Kansas?

T.J. Depends on the tire. Depends on, you know, the four is going to be fast. The 11's going to be fast. You're going to have your fast guys, but it depends on when the caution's fall. I hope so. this is what made the points so exciting a few years ago. You know, you literally had to be, I think, top 10 in points to make it into the

playoff because we had so many winners that were back in the standings. And we're right back there doing it now. You know, Custer clearly out of the top 16, Austin right on the fringe of the top 16. It's what makes the playoff discussion exciting. Yeah, I mean, you're looking at the guy, like 18 was pretty, he was fast again yesterday, so he could be another first-time winner. But it's just going to be the way the race plays out. These guys that have been winning are not dominant by any means.

Right place, right time. Off the wall question. A dog disappeared in Kansas and turned up at its old home 50 miles away. Have you ever slept somewhere and not remembered where you were when you woke up? Brett, please say. Oh, my gosh. From 1993 to 1997 in Columbia, South Carolina. Why is Dillner looking at me for?

T.J. Of course, yeah, but mine are, I could probably count mine on one hand, but I guarantee these two right here probably had that many. in one year. One week. Nah, it's never happened to me. Next. Hey, I woke up wondering where Freddy slept before.

So I know damn good well. He didn't know where he was. When Freddie retires, we'll tell you the real stories. I don't think I'll remember by then. I wish I could tell you the stories. I don't know what happened. The only thing faster than Fast Lane was Kevin Harbock, because he scored this week's Infinity Fast-Fifty.

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It's incredible to see the work being done in our sport by so many, Even seeing Joey being recognized in 2018, Comcast has been so supportive and invested over $600,000 in charities highlighted over the years. Can't wait to see who will be honored this year. If you know someone in NASCAR doing awesome things in the community, head over to comcastcommunitychampion.com and submit your nomination today. AskDBC. Send in your questions 24-7 on Twitter using the hashtag AskDBC. This question is from Team Money 10. What are your thoughts on Kislauski saying drivers should be able to graduate into this level

and also be removed for repeated issues? T.J. It's kind of hard to remove a guy once you get there. Because, I mean, if you get to the Cup series, you've obviously either got sponsorship or sold, you know. It should not be hard to remove a guy. Quinn Huff right now should be removed. And they've done this in the past where... Be honest, should he be there in the first place?

No, he should not be there in the first place. No, he should not be there first. That's what I'm saying. She'd have graduated there in the first place. Obviously, he should not have been approved. He must be tough today. Now, we've seen this in the past. If you, I think it was, I can't remember if it was Canaan or it was Xfinity,

guy wrecked, like twice in practice. They went to him and said, hey, but guess what? You're not racing today. And that's, unfortunately, for Quinn, that's what they need to do right here. This kid cannot be on the race. You should not be out on the racetrack learning how to race in a cup race. If you're not aware enough to know that you shouldn't pit from the third lane, You have no position on the race.

He just hasn't put his time in in the other series and the truck series in the Xfinity series. I mean, he's made very minimum starts. But to Brad's other point, you can't just graduate a guy. All right. Brett, you've run top five every Xfinity race. You're in a cup car now. What am I driving? I don't know.

Where's the money coming from? So obviously you can't just graduate a guy to the Cup series. But you can 100%. If a guy is going to wreck every week, there's a couple of them out there that I could say you should take and go, all right, you are not ready for this. You're going back to Xfinity or you're going back to Xfinity. or you're going back to truck or you're going back to a late model at a short track. Learn how to race.

So, Freddie, this is your son. And I'm just speaking hypothetical. I'm not speaking directly to this guy's situation because I don't know it. But this is your son. And you paid a million dollars for him to get this ride. And then they tell you your son can't drive it anymore. Then what are we going to do? It's too bad.

You have to have the approval process to graduate them up to start with, which we used to have. We used to have an approval process where you had to run a big archa track in order to get to run a big truck track. Then you had to run a big truck track to get qualified for a big Xfinity series track. And you had to go run Bristol to get approved for Phoenix. And you had to run, you know, Phoenix to get approved for Charlotte. Charlotte to get approved for Michigan. Michigan to get approved for Daytona.

Now we don't have those credentials in place for these guys to pass these tests. So therefore, when they get in these tests in these high-level series, they're failing these tests. And it's putting a mockery around the show that we're trying to put on for the other guys that are out there that deserve to be there and the other sponsors that deserve to be there. They still have this approval process. But the problem is the approval process is only this. I'm spotting some of the back marker teams that I've done in the past, you know,

the 20 truck last year, you know, lower budget stuff. They get some of these guys that need to get approved for certain tracks. All they tell them is don't crash. If you go out there and don't crash, you can get through this Phoenix truck race. Now you're approved for this homestead truck race. If you can get through this homestead truck race without wrecking, you're approved for everything. going to Daytona next year. So you have to have, it can't just be, go out there and don't crash, because you can just

ride around there after, I mean, some of these guys can't. I don't know how he did before, but you know, you can't just have an approval process where it says, all right, just go out here and ride around and don't crash and we're going to approve you for the next race or the bigger track. It has to be, you have to be competitive at some level. Juan Montoya was a first driver that I recall showing up and being approved to run the Daytona 500 with zero cup starts. And let me tell you something.

He deserved that. He's an Indy 500 champion. He's a, you know, IRL champion. He's a Formula One eight-time winner at this point in his career, I believe. Maybe he didn't win that many races, but I think that's right. Nonetheless, he warranted an approval. But we're giving these other guys approval without that, man. You used to be able to run up to seven races the year before your rookie year.

And that was to qualify you to make it into the Cup Series. And for you to be eligible to run the Daytona 500, you had to show up and check the boxes off. Now the boxes are you approved? Check yes or not. No. Yeah. I mean, it used to be the ABC program. You know, you used to run ARCA to get the Bush to Cup.

You know, and you had to be, they didn't just take a guy out of ARCA and stick him in a Bush car. You know, it was somebody that had to run good in ARCA, and then he would get to the Bush car. You know, then a Bush guy would go to a cup. But. Seven wins for my toy. But, I mean, I don't know. Like people were talking about yesterday about how these guys shouldn't be out there.

And listen, they should be out there 100% because there's people that make a living working for these race teams and getting the race teams. and getting the race cars ready, and these team owners are making money. This is a profitable business for them, even though it looks ridiculous. Some of them are way off the pace, but they're making money, and they're supporting a lot of employees that make a living on these cars. So these guys should be out there, and most of them do a pretty good job. We talked about BJ McLeod, you know, Garrett's pretty good about getting out of the way.

You know, there's guys out there that can manage to be on the racetrack. J.J. Yaley, Reed Sorensen's kind of a headache sometimes, but he doesn't wreck you. But, you know, these guys can be on the racetrack and not tear equipment up. But when you have a guy that does this every week, whether it's running into Iowa on Pit Road, pile it into a wreck, turning left from the third lane to come to Pitt Road, you know, at some point somebody's got to step in and say, okay, bud, you're not ready for this. He proved you unready to Talladega when it kept blocking everybody and you got turned head on in the wall. You just don't do that with a car that's 20 miles an hour off pace.

That'll happen. I think we've ran it enough. Yeah, I think we've talked our ears off today. We do need one thing, though. I'm telling you guys on the business side. we need this 2021 schedule out for all three series because I'm working with drivers and working with sponsors and we're trying to put the pieces together. We don't know what we're selling.

We don't know what fan experience we're selling. We don't know what VIP experience, what VVIP experience, what VVIP experience, what mobile marketing, while hospitality. We don't even know the schedule. So if you're listening to this show and you have influence the 2021 schedule, it would be great to be able to get our hands on it because there's a lot of us that are pushing inventory. And, man, it would be nice. I don't really care about my travel schedule, but I do care about how I'm going to make a living next year,

and that schedule will certainly help me do that. Well, you're not spot? I didn't say that. I just said it would be nice to know I've got something to sell here. It's hard, man. Just imagine you don't know what the schedule is for next year, and you're trying to sell inventory and trying to pick all that. I'm looking forward to the schedule, though. I'm looking forward to it.

Can you make it come out? Nah. Bye. Okay. Hey, Siri, we need a new schedule. We've got breaking news and DVC picks. Yeah, it's breaking news. TJ, you won something.

For the third time this season, trying to reflect how the Buffalo Bills will perform this fall. I was cheering for you. I need you to win. You know what, Jason, your time is coming. If I'm Jason, I'm not talking a lot of trash about the bills because at least the bills have a quarterback. Cam Newton is a quarterback.

Cam Nukin is not even going to start. Jason, you're a normal Patriots fan that just thinks everything is actually going to be okay. Well, here's the news flag. Everything works out for the Patriots. It's not going to be okay. It's going to come to an end. So anyway, yeah, I mean... Freddy, you're up.

Jinks Blaney. Sorry. Still won. Ha. Kansas. I'm going to take... Since I got first pick, I'll go Chase Elliott. Oh, jerk.

I got second pick. I'm a winner. You ain't picking last. I've been burning through a lot of these guys here. Chase Elliott's a big swing there. That's a big bat. I'm going to go conservative this week and hope for a miracle. Quinn Huff.

I don't know if he's back from Chick-fil-A yet. Cole Custer. That miracle was two weeks ago, bro. Man, he's swinging pretty hard over there, so I might. You need to swing hard. You got three wins. You suck. I got eight races left, man, to start redoing this here.

going to go with. Ain't going to matter if he wins all eight. Did I pick him? What was he at? Who? He ain't got a by left either. You're picked so. I picked the guy I wanted already.

I didn't know that. Damn it. You know, he has been running that great. He's been getting caught up in a lot of trouble recently, but he's had good fast cars. I'm going to go with Eric Jones. 8-8. All right.

Well, thank you guys so much for listening. As always, I apologize, Eric Jones. I'm excited. Sorry, Eric. Hope you all have a great week and be sure to send us tons of comments and likes and stop sending Brett gifts because honestly, his head is staying left.

I love you guys. Thank y'all. Keep them coming. Tito's vodka, tequila. There are three people here in case you don't count, neither is Jason. I count.

No, you don't. Brett won't have the gift. Send Jason to truly. Jason does not count because he's part-time on the Dell Jr. Download, too. Speaking of the Dell Jr. Download, listen this week,

Ray Abraham's going to be on. It's going to be a great show. Wow. I heard. So I listened last week to the end of the Dale Jr. Download, and Dale said he wants us to come on there and debate with him. So we have to get on Dillner to make that happen. It's three on two. I'll take our odds. Well, two and a half. I don't want T.Js. I'm going to have to zoom in next week. Next week? Yeah. Where are you going? With him, yeah. He's shaking. Oh, you're going on vacation. Good for you.

Actually, I think I got to zoom in, too. I might have to. Yeah, you're not going to where you're waking up, though. No, I can probably do it in the morning. We can all just Zoom, man. I'm not coming here by myself. Casey's already on Zoom. No, I could do it in the morning. I don't think we're going to leave that either.

I can do it whenever, but I'm going to go out and set up on the beach, you guys. All right. Well, thanks, everybody. Have a great week. Thank you. If you're a race fan, this has got to be the most exciting time to be alive because we are racing our butts off out here. It's great, too, though, man. These four races in like four days, five race.

It's awesome. I love it. Watch Thursday night. Thanks for listening. We're seeing. I'll. Check out Dirty Mo Media on YouTube, Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram. Dirty Mo.