Door Bumper Clear - 193 - Tired of Being Blocked

Episode Date: September 28, 2020

Fresh off a flight back from Las Vegas and a few hours of sleep, T.J. Majors and Brett Griffin cover all that went down at the track and during a big week of NASCAR news. Along with co-host Hannah Newhouse and producer Jason Schultz, the gang discusses the noise Joey Logano made in Sunday’s race. T.J. explains the block the No. 22 made on Chase Elliott early in the event and responds to Alan Gustafson’s comments. Then T.J. walks us through how Logano cut a tire down after making contact with Kyle Busch when Denny Hamlin took them three-wide for the lead. A debris caution changed everything on Sunday and the spotters react to how it impacted their race and the winning opportunity it presented Kurt Busch. Denny Hamlin officially announced his new Cup Series team with Michael Jordan last week. The guys analyze the news and ponder challenges this new organization is up against. The 2021 NASCAR schedule is anticipated this week. Our industry insiders drop some hints about more road courses and current tracks losing races. Door Bumper Clear meets Chloe Boat for the first time and checks in on Casey Boat to see how new life as a mom is treating her. We learn about Chloe’s first few weeks and the breastfeeding advice Brett gave Casey. In #AskDBC, Brett tells a story about how a shredded tire injured Elliott Sadler in the car. Plus, find out how many times these guys have spotted the wrong car during a race. NASCAR is off to Talladega Superspeedway this weekend and the crew explains why nobody is safe in this critical playoff race.  Want more DBC? Check out and subscribe to the new DBC YouTube channel! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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app or go to anchor.fm. To get started. That's an C-H-O-R.fm. To get started. Hey, I'm Freddie Crabb. I decided to sleep in this morning and miss door bumper clear, which, oh, by the way, is presented by All for Pat. Today we'll break down the race at Vegas,

including Joy Lagano, blocking yet again, a debris caution that changed everything, and my new contract. I'm going to be the highest paid spotter in NASCAR history now that the goat, Michael Jordan, is coming into NASCAR. Hey, Bubba Wallace, new team. Let's get ready. Set, go.

Nobody's listening, but I don't care. I'm on an episode of Door Bumper. I'm T.J. Majors. This is Brett Griffin. Get ready. Be ready. Be ready. Give me what you got here. New leader.

I'll watch out for this guy. White flag. Recognize. Hello. Clear. Bring home. Three lives. Coming to the line.

George. Bumper. Clear. Hey, everybody. I'm T.J. Majors. Part of the 22 cup car, the 99 truck. And it's like a halfway full house today. Yeah, Brett Griffin.

Spotter for a Clint Boyer. in the Old Cup series. It's like the old times, man. It's just me and TJ here kicking it. We're not sitting on a couch, and Kristen Mingle.com is not the hostess with the Mostis anymore. She's now taken by some dude named Alan, but we do have our sub hostess with the Mostis,

who also yesterday over consumed herself in gin. What kind of gin were drinking? What was the flavor? I don't even know what the flavor was. Beef feeder. It didn't matter. It didn't matter. It hurt.

That's all I got to say. It was my cousin's wedding, and I was drinking gin and seven up, and I was like, oh, I'll have one. And the next thing you know, I'm bad, way more than one. And flying, especially commercial, home when you are hungover, is not fun. You're supposed to drink gin and juice. That's what the song says. You can't go to a wedding and say, lay back with my mind on my money and my money on my mind. You don't go to it on a major event like that and say, I'll just have one.

That doesn't happen. Oh, no, I know. It was bad. You knew what you were getting into, Hannah. I'm disappointed in your wording here. Sipping on gin and seven up. So you fuck the whole song up right there. You can't even say that and make the lyrics work.

I thought I was still young enough that I could like rebound back of it, but apparently not. How many hours do you drink gin? This does not get easier as you get older. I think gin tastes like pine straw. You're really young to be a gin drinker. I don't picture you to be a gin drink at all. I started drinking mimosa at like probably like nine or 10 a.m. Because you're getting ready.

And because that's part of the bridal party. And then I started drinking. drinking gin as soon as the wedding, like the actual ceremony was over. So 4.30. Are you kidding me? You just said here that I said I would go and only have one. But oh, we started off with memosis at 8 o'clock in the morning. Meimosis. Whatever. Meimosis.

What's in there, gin? Hair of the dog. No, it's juice. And gin. Mimosas are, you got to be careful with mimosis. They'll sneak up on you. Yeah, they do. Like one second, you're like, this tastes fine.

It just tastes like champagne and juice. And the next thing you know, you do. Champagne and juice. And that would change the lyrics again. I'm glad you're a warrior and you made it today because unlike someone else. It's a lot tougher than your co-host, apparently. Yeah, unlike someone else who needs his beauty sleep and there's not enough of that to go around for him. He's not here.

Freddie Kraft is missing in action. He actually avoided Brett's FaceTime call, which actually woke him up. I think they woke him up. I landed at about 4.45 a.m. Made it to bed about 5.30 a.m. slept for maybe three or four hours. You know how it is, T.J. You just can't sleep. No. I went to bed about six, and family was out of town last week, so I didn't see my kids from the early part of the week. So, of course, they're in there first thing in the morning.

You know, hey, daddy, blah, blah. Oh, hey. So it's daylight out. Can't really go back to sleep. Maybe Freddie needs kids. Maybe Freddy needs kids because kids don't know what time it is. They don't know if you didn't care what time it is. They don't care if you took a red eye flight home. They don't care if you had too much gin, Hannah. They don't care.

It's time to get up and eat and all they want to know is get up and feed me. Yeah, and will you play with me? Want to play a Play-Doh? Yeah. We'll play Barbie dolls? Yep. Yep. Well, that being said, you guys had clearly a rough flight home, but how is Vegas as a whole?

You've never seen Las Vegas like this. I mean, clearly we've been to a lot of markets and a lot of cities. And I'm a Vegas guy. Like I love to go out to eat there. I love to gamble. I love everything about Vegas. But I have never been somewhere. And listen, I'm a mask guy.

I'm pro mask. I wear my mask everywhere that I'm required to wear it because I think it's the responsible thing to do. But they would have the weirdest mask rules. For example, Hannah, if you went to the pool, the hotel pool, which was open, you could sit by yourself on the pool deck, and you had to wear your mask. And if you got a drink, such as a Pena Colada, which I did manage to get, you had to take your mask down, drink your Pena Colada, and put your mask right back up in between sips. Like you couldn't just sit around the pool

with your mask down, even though you're sitting by yourself. But if you want to take your mask off, you just get in the pool. So apparently the coronavirus can't live in the pool. If your feet are in the pool, no mask required. And then you sit down at Blackjack, which is typically six people playing the game, right? They've changed that. It's now three people playing the game, and they have Plexiglass up all the way around the table. So you're sitting there, just like T.J.R. sitting here six feet apart, but you're sitting there with a piece of glass between you and your player beside you, and there's a piece of glass like a bank teller in front of you between you and the dealer, and you're required to wear your mask at all times, even if you have a beer. So you can pull your

mask down, take a sip of beer, put your mask back up. It's crazy, but then I can leave. I can that area right there where I'm literally by myself. And if Freddie was hanging out with me and when I was gambling, he had to stand six feet behind me. Even though we're buddies and everything, he couldn't stand up there and, you know, us shoot the shit while we were gambling. But if we left there and walked to a restaurant, we could sit down. He could literally sit in my lap and we could eat dinner together with no mask on. It's just the lawmakers in that state. I mean, look, to me, when I hear the word Nevada, I hear, I think about Las Vegas, Reno, Carson City.

And I think about obviously the tourist industry and the gambling industry. And look, I think they're trying to be safe, but they're ruining the culture of what that town's about. And look, flights are cheap, man. Rooms are cheap. And that's why. Because it's not the same Las Vegas that we all knew to grow in love. But it'll be back.

But it was, I mean, look, it's like everything else we've done this summer, TJ. It's just, it's earth shattering. You get there and you're like, wow, we're not in the same America we've been in. Yeah, definitely it looked different. I didn't gamble or anything, but just walking through the casino, you could see it was a little bit different. But nonetheless, I'm glad we got to go there. And, you know, I think there was a question whether we were going to be able to go and race there. I mean, yeah, for sure.

And no fans were there. So we could have fans gambling in the casino and at the sportsbook, but you couldn't have fans outside of the racetrack. Just super consistent. I just get confused by these lawmakers. Yeah. And, yeah. So, anyway. You should have printed off a really big picture of his head so we could pull the mic up to it.

I was going to say I'm trying to see what picture that is of him. It's a great picture of Freddie. He's got on a Hannah Newhouse shirt. He does. In the picture. So that picture was from last week. That's from last week or the week before. Last week.

Yeah. Yeah. We need a Freddie fathead. Can we get one of those made? Well, if he was here, we'd have one. Oh, he's going to get you for that one. No, he knows. Anyway, Freddie overslept.

And I believe that, because I could have overslept. this morning. And he blamed it on the fact that his phone died, which I don't believe, because everybody plugs their phone in. And didn't he send it to voicemail when you FaceTime him? Yeah, we tried to FaceTime him. He wouldn't answer. Then he texts Jason and I and said he... It actually rang, though,

for FaceTime. Like, it rang. Yeah, if it was dead, you probably want to rank. Exactly. So, Freddie, we're going to need to work on your excuse book as well. So he told the truth that he overslept, but he lied. And he's the only one in our group deal was like, oh, solid, I'll sleep for four hours. That'll be all right. He's the only one that commented on the sleep amount.

Hey, Brett, you got a gift next year. Did you check that out yet? Uh-uh. What is it? It was a special delivery from someone you know well. It's huge. Oh. Oh, it's got my name on it.

Here's the bad news. It doesn't say Brett and T.J. It just says. Yeah, that's, I just hope it's not from, like, was it from the double zero truck driver? He was here. Oh, he was here last week. Yeah. Yeah.

He was welcoming in a parking lot. I'm not good at opening gifts. I'm one of those people that just tears it up. You just ruin that. All right. I got a son. Oh, there's like a book in that. There got a nice little note from our friends at Offerpad, Kyle Rush, for appreciating all that we do,

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I think this is probably expensive. Don't want me to look it up? Let's guess the over-under on this. Oh, I have no idea. I don't buy alcohol like that. I don't either. I can't afford it. You're going to be way closer than I would be.

Let's go with $200. Did you have a bottle of bourbon like two weeks ago? Yeah, the one sitting on the table? Hmm. Oh, look at that. It's pretty. That's big. Yeah, show the camera.

Johnny Walker, blue label. Look at that. How many ounces is it? I think one and a half at the time will do it for you. It's a lot. It's a fifth. Johnny Walker Blue Label. Over under $200, Hannah.

What do you got? Over under? I don't. It's a fifth. I'm going to go under, but just slightly. Well, no, there's a $300 bar right there, and that's bigger than that. Oh. Yeah.

It says why the first Google search is, why is Blue Label so expensive? It recreates early whiskey blends, and we'll go, anywhere between $174 and $450 based on the size. That might be $199. I can't even open something that costs that much money. This just goes in my bar for decoration. Is that it? That's it.

That's $199. That's it. Did I not just say, just barely? You got it by a penny. What did you say, Hannah? I said, just barely under $200. Thanks to Kyle Rush, our friends at Offerpad, I can't drink it, but it's going to look great in my bar. The box is phenomenal looking.

I heard there was a little, there was some good tweets going out last night. Did I miss? I didn't go back and look yet, but. Oh, Kyle Busch. Yeah. Are we talking about that later? Oh yeah, he was on one last night.

I saw a couple of those when I landed. He's usually pretty good when he gets on a little Twitter rant. Yeah, he's pretty good at that. He responded to one guy, said, You sir are a, holy cow, my face hurts. I just like his responses. you sir are it's pretty good that's classic Kyle though that's the Kyle you like to see come out you know what I mean like that's you know most of his interviews he's very he doesn't hold back

so and I can appreciate that he's been pretty good though this year as far as like pretty mellow in the interview aspect all things considered like with the year he's had I feel like I would have expected him to probably, you know, come unleashed a couple times. But I feel like for the most part, honestly, he was been pretty tame. Maybe I've just missed it, but...

For the year he's having, I think he's being pretty good. That's, yeah, that's what I'm saying. Hi, we're Offerpad. The new way homes are sold. Go to Offerpad.com, tell us about your home, and we'll send you a great purchase offer. Or, if that's not your style, we can also

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Elliot says, make sure the nose is okay from that bitch up there, followed by Alan saying he just needs to get sent sooner or later. You want to start that one, TJ? I'm not. I mean, that's two comments from crew chiefs on from there this year that, I don't know. I mean, look, man, we're racing. Chase blocks people. Everyone, that's this type of racing now.

You're defending positions. you know we went to the bottom off of turn two because we saw chase had a big run and we knew where he was going to go you take that away drive through the middle you know what I mean drive through the middle like it's a wide straightaway but um there's blocking on resource there's blocking your the biggest weapon on offense and the biggest weapon for defense is track position and air right yeah I mean it's not really my car is better than yours anymore it's I have track position on you and I have the air advantage. So you're defending that.

It's not, it's not, it's not, it's not, it's hard to describe. This type of racing is what this is. I mean, you're, we go to Talladega next week. There's going to be blocking there by everybody. You're going to, you're going to want to protect your position and you want to get the momentum behind you. It's just, just racing. Like, it's going to happen.

Every single driver on that track ran a lane at some point to put their car in front of the other, in front of another car, whether you like it or not, it's going to happen. I mean, don't threaten me with a good time. Like, if you're going to send a guy, just send him. But the guy that's capable of sending him is sitting on a pit box. He's not in the race car. So I do think that people are tired of being blocked by Joy Lagano. I do think they're tired of the storyline.

I didn't see the block. I think some blocks are warranted, and I think some blocks are not. I mean, prime example yesterday. We were on the front stretch and, you know, we shot the bottom and we were in the middle of crazy traffic on some of those insane restarts. Insane restarts, man. Three wide, four wide, looking five wide. Your second from the top, like just spotting like you've never spotted before it at Las Vegas.

And we cleared two guys coming out of four. And I cleared Clint up in front of the 32 car. And I was like, he's coming back. One half quarter. and just as I say that, Clint scoots up in front of him. It wasn't to block him because it was the 32 car, right? I mean, we're not worried about those guys, quote, passing us back, but we had to get up to pick the momentum up,

getting into one to get the car wound back up, to get through one or two, and LaJoy, you know, hit us in the butt, and he hit us in the butt because we essentially pulled up in front of him, but we had already cleared him. It was not like he had a run coming to us to pass us, but nonetheless, we... You have to do that. We threw a block.

If you don't, he gets back out there at your quarter panel, and the guy behind him has a run. You have to do it. Like, that's just how this racing is. It's not like your car is better than you're just better to me. Now you get me, you go on. It is, it's more racy now than it's ever been. And honestly, the 32 car is not.

Like, those guys are fairly competitive. Yeah. I mean, obviously not winning cars, but they're fairly competitive. And they can, you put a guy like. They can have speed on restarts. Yeah. And the only reason, you know, the part of the body, there's people blocking every single, every single lap. You know, we caught Danny a couple times to the league.

Guess what? Danny blocked us. But it just happens. It happens. I think people look. I think people look for the 22 to block somebody. And it just gets called out every single time. If you think Joey is the only guy that ever throws a block on that race track, you don't watch a race.

We look at the gentleman's agreement that used to be in place around here. and it's out the window. I mean, it just is flat out out the window. Like, you truly have to race like a butthole, especially on restarts. And as a spotter, it's a lot. I mean, it used to be you helped manage the restart. You help get settled in. You help find your rhythm.

You manage your tires, and then you try to go past cars. And now, if you don't get it on a restart and you don't get it in all that traffic, there's a solid chance you may not get it to the air that T.J. Way harder to get back. back now. You know, if you come out of a restart 6th, there's a chance you're going to run 6th until you pit. 100%. And if you restart 6th and you come out 12th, there's a solid chance you're going to run 11th to 13th, you know, until you pit. Like where you come out is where you run, so it makes those restarts be even more wild. You have to protect, man. You have to. That's, that

these stage points, those stage points that we got in the first stage made our race. Because we got, obviously, we'll talk about it a little bit, we had to pit for a tire. But those stage points matter. And if Chase gets around us there and, you know what, Chase gets that inside down the backstretch and we wash up the racetrack a little bit because it's hard to get through three and four a little bit. Yeah. Two cars get biased.

That's two points. That's two stage points right there because you're, like Brett said, I saw Chase run guys down and couldn't get around him. Had a faster car. We caught Denny. Couldn't get around him. Maybe we were a little fast time. Maybe we weren't.

He ended up driving back away. But whoever Chase caught I saw a couple times, they drove back away from him. but Chase was faster at the time, but just couldn't do anything. You know, and that's, you have to get everything you can. And like you said, there's, there's times where, you know, that you really just can't do it. But if the guy sees it coming and the guys and you have a guy like this talented enough to Joey to put his car where he knows he can be, you can't cross the nose. If you try to block a guy and he's got, if he's got, you know, six inches there, you're going to get spun out. Yeah.

But you give a guy like Joey good enough info. He can place his car where it's damn near. impossible to get around him sometimes. You have to do that now. In my opinion, that's how we have to race. Yeah. I don't know. I mean, I think you have to be a little careful of the run and when you do it.

Like I said, you can't get turned. You're ruining your race. Yeah. But you tell, you know, Joey's really good at knowing what runs he can block and what runs he can't. And dissecting that info and making the decision on it. He ultimately, the drivers all make the decisions on it, whether they want to block that run or not.

But, you know, that's just like Brett said, you can't, you get line in sixth place after two laps. That's probably where you're going to run. Yeah. One or maybe a give or take a spot, depending on if you catch a lap car at the wrong time and get checked up or something like that. There's few cars that can pass. It was very hard to pass. Very hard to pass.

So, and I mean, we saw the race winner last night. Not really competitive a shot to win all day. It's a race. Got out front. T.J. Add it. See them in the top 10. Exactly. Much at all. Yep.

Well, and you talked about it there, T.J. as far as coming down pit road and having to get a tire. So we'll just start that one off with Joey Lugano develops a tire rub after contact with Kyle Bush when Denny Hamlin goes three wide for the lead in stage two. And you can start that one off as well. I mean, I think that's, I think it's just a racing deal. We all, it was kind of, you can see it coming, but, you know, we were turning off the wall already and the 11 wasn't inside of us. And I think it, I'll get Brett's pin in it, but I think it kind of. I spooked Kyle a little bit, and Kyle opened the wheel up. You could see the car jerk a little bit and go to the right, and that's not a normal move for a guy that's already turned off into the corner.

If you know that guy is going to be there, you kind of leave the lane and you don't go up the racetrack on that abruptly like you did. Danny got clear halfway down the backstretch, was able to get a big run because two cars are side by side in front of him, and that's just what happens in this package. They punch a huge hole in the air. Danny gets a big run, and at the last second, you know, he cuts to the bottom, the dive to the bottom, and, you know, the 18, we're driving off the 18, the 18th is trying to side draft us to shoot down to the bottom and the corner. And I really think it just surprised them.

I think it surprised the 18. And as soon as I saw Danny turn off the wall, I started calling two inside, but we're already turned in. Joey can't, like Kyle, like Kyle had no choice either, but to turn the wheel to the right a little bit. And, you know, it's just, everything closes up in a hurry like that. Like, we saw it kind of coming, but we didn't really, when you turn off the wall, you're kind of already picked your lane for the corner.

Your trajectory is already decided for where you're going to be when you get to the, get into the corner. And I think it just spooked them a little bit, which kind of spooked us. And we all just kind of brushed it. It wasn't bad, but it was enough to where we hit at the right spot in it. We had a tire going down. I'd be curious to know how Tony Hirschman spots this package now that it's changed so much, because the old Kyle Busch, and I've only spotted one race for Kyle Busch in my life,

and it was a truck series race at Talladega. and Kyle didn't like a lot of information on runs that were coming and on looking inside. He only wanted to know if they were inside or outside in a lot of scenarios, and he said it, quote, distracted him to hear that extra information. And I'd be curious because Tony's a good spotter, and Tony's one of the guys up there with a lot of racing knowledge. And, I mean, look, there's 40 guys up there, ish. I'd say Tony's a top 10 guy. Do you agree with that?

I mean, his track record can't really argue it. Well, he sucked until he got to Kyle Busch. I mean, I'm pretty sure Jason could spot for Kyle Busch. But back to the thing. Tony Hirschman, I would imagine with the way this package is allowed that Tony had to change the way he spots, that Kyle had to let him change the way he spots. So if he got surprised on that, clearly there's some dialogue between the spotter and driver that can get lost or confused.

Hey, I'm not going to lie to you guys. Sometimes these runs are so freaking big. When you key up to say it, you're like, holy cow, where did that run even come from? And I saw a tweet yesterday from Kelly Crandall, who I personally think a lot of. I think our work ethics, greatest journalist in the sport. And she mentioned that Joey had said to you over the radio that he didn't know he was three wide in time. Yeah. How did you guys come back from that?

And was this the same incident? Like to your point about what Kyle was doing, Kyle was at our left rear tire. So Kyle was staring at our car trying to side draft us because Kyle, and we're like, we're turning off the wall. like we're turning into the corner so Kyle's trying to turn off of us and shoot to the bottom and he's probably not even looking it I mean he's driving off of us like trying to side draft us you can't be looking in the mirror staring at that guy if you're side drafting a guy and you know Joey's sitting there watching his left front well I tell Joey look 11's clear three back you know inside two inside two inside like it was so late into like I didn't

expect any to make that mood to be honest with you but you know you try to give a lot of info as quick and like you said some of them runs are so big and um i don't know man it's just uh it can happen i guess there's that was a very an super aggressive move by denny but and obviously worked great for him um it's it's hard when you see Clint boyer and then Kevin harvey right behind him you and your brain as a spotter go his teammate ain't going to do anything to screw him right here and then when he kamikazis him and dive bombs of getting in the corner it takes us soft guard and takes us a second to communicate that. I saw the run coming in.

I mean, it's just, it's so laid into the corner like I was, even if I would have, Joey still got to drive off Kyle almost. You're not just going to, oh, Danny's got a big run. Let me just get up out of the way here. You know, to me, the move was forced and it was kind of like you knew there was probably going to be contact as late as it was into the corner. You almost, it's almost inevitable. But Kyle did not make an attempt to block him.

No, that's, you have to take that away early. Like if that was us, I wouldn't really have been worried about the guy on the outside because you don't want a guy to put you in the middle, in the three. You don't want to be in the middle going into three. So to me, you take the bottom away before the 11 gets there, and you don't give them a choice. You don't give the 11 a choice to get to your inside and do that. And honestly, if Kyle takes it away a little bit and acts like he's going to cover it,

then he probably just lifts, falls him in the corner. So this is the second week in a row you and Kyle have kind of had a tift. I don't really call this. I mean, it's just racing there. Kyle was just, I mean, we were race for the lead. That was actually pretty fun racing with Kyle for the lead. Well, I thought you did it on purpose because I picked Joy in DBC and you were tired of me winning this thing every year.

Yeah. Because I looked pretty damn good there until you screwed it up. Don't even look at a TJ. You didn't win. Well, I know I didn't win because T.J. screwed it up. I had it. Can I pick for Freddie this week? Yep.

He sent me his picks, but. No, he don't get the pick. Freddy just woke up in his out. He gets a DNQ. Freddy's like a hairy teletubby right now. now. He just woke up in his draws on his big-ass couch. No, Freddy's back asleep. With his dog mow laying beside of him. And I'm going to tell you something. Freddy bought a new truck. And I opened a door to look at this new truck.

I was like, man, I like your truck. Dude, you ain't ever seen so much dog hair in the backseat. It's a brand new truck. Do you know they make backseat covers and stuff that are super cheating? I have. I have like the sling that goes across my back seat that like when it hangs out in, it's perfect. Probably like 30, 40 bucks too. Yeah. I mean, they're awesome. That's really. That's really. I mean, we started this show. Freddie ignored us. If Freddie would have got up. Freddie lives semi-close to here.

Five minutes. Freddy could have got up, brushed his teeth, and... That's all? Yeah, and put some clothes on. He could have wore the... No, he could have came like that.

I wouldn't mind it. Okay, so a shirtless Freddy, which is what you will get if you use... Yeah, if you use offer pad and you move, Fred, that's what you'll get. Yeah, so Freddie could have been here, but his care level was too. low.

Jason, can we pull out of the archives, Freddie doing that move from the Goosephal. Yeah, can we pull that out, put it out there on social this week just to get him back for oversleeping? We can antagonize them all week. We got that. Yeah. Oh, we're going to. What an idiot.

Who misses their own show? That's impressive. Yeah. His care levels down. Brett got up argue with somebody. I got up and played Barbies. I mean. Oh.

The caution comes out during Green Flag Pit Stop, which leaves only one playoff car of Kurt Busch on the lead. Of course it does. Why would it not? Spot off. This ruin my night. It ruined my chance to really be in a decent position. Look, we were making up a bunch of playoff points on a guy like Joey Legano, on a guy like Kyle Busch. We had four stage points throughout the night total, one in stage one, three in stage two, and then we roll in, and we're going to get a top dang six finish, and then all these cautions start coming,

and we just keep getting further and further back. And this particular caution, I think we came off pit road, like one lap down and 24th, and wave around eligible. And then you're back there behind guys that you literally haven't seen in six months. So it's extremely difficult to be able to go out there and make that up. We ended up with a 12th place finish and are still 20 points out. That's how much ground those guys made up. And look, you put a guy in.

That T.J. said was not capable of winning or continuing to win all night. So shout out to his crew chief, Matt McCall. Because to me, look, they've had some weird strategies this year, even going back to Richmond. And they did some things that none of us understood. And then you look at what Matt did. Matt McCall did here. Former Hickory late model racer. Yeah.

Had a couple of Xfinity Series starts. I spotted for him at Dover back in the day. Robert Yates racing. He and Stephen Light split that car, the number 9. Any Carr, if you guys remember that in the Bush series, Exfinity Series. And shout out to him, man. Big, big call. Won the race?

Yeah, that. And not really, you're praying at that point when you're him for the caution to come out. I mean, you're literally praying the entire time, and it worked for him. But more credit to Kurt for taking advantage of, you know, it was handed to Kurt, and Kurt made it happen. He got put in restart situations that were absolutely crazy. and he got up on the wheel and won it, man. Kurt, he did it to us at Kentucky last year, man. Kurt got up on the wheel and he got him a win.

And it's a big win. He probably, the only way this win would be better is if it happened after the road course race, if he was into the next round. This is a huge win for Kurt and his team there. But, you know, I got to be. He didn't have fans. Like, it is home track. Yeah, well, anyone, you know, I'm sure-

He could take his governor for that. Yeah. Yeah. But I got to be spot off for the caution at that point. I don't know if there was any, I didn't personally see any debris. I don't know if you, what the TV showed. Was there debris on the track or was that all on the apron? Where was it?

You know what I mean? But nonetheless, you know, there was, if there was debris out there, it's a legit caution, we can't be blowing tires. We can't be running our stuff on a racetrack. but spot off for the timing of the caution. It didn't benefit us at all either. But you just came off of last week where you benefited huge from the caution. We're 30 races in.

I finally get a caution. Next week I get a question. Well, you benefited huge last week. So now it's a wash with you. Yeah, it's a wash. It's 100 to 1. Anyways, next fun. Denny Hamlin announces that he's forming a new cup.

team with Michael Jordan and Bubba Wallace as the new driver. T.J. I mean, we've been, I'm really disappointed in Freddie and Bubba that they couldn't just use this to do the announcement. What a golden opportunity

to do it. Spot on for them. You know, a great opportunity for Bubba, like he said on the show. Betting on himself. Denny, you know, I know Denny fairly well from back in the day,

but I know one thing, when Denny does something, Denny usually does it pretty damn big. So I can see, you know, this being a great opportunity for Bubba. And the biggest thing, I mean, we have Michael Jordan involved in the sport now. So that's going to touch a lot of areas that would never get touched, you know, like fan base, you know, involved in NASCAR. So I think it's great all the way around. Yeah, I don't know how anybody could spot off this.

I mean, you look at Bubba and his career and the deficiencies that he suffered really since he left KBM. And now he's going to get in a situation that certainly looks like it's going to go out and compete. But startup teams, man, it's very rare we see them come in and be super, super competitive. And this team will be all over. Media is going to eat this team up. I think that it's a, it's a, it's a, the timing is a little weird because, because they're coming in and we're going to run an obsolete race car for one year. And then we're going to switch to the gen 7 car. So, so there's some challenges there because you're going to have to put a lot of resources on the table in order to fill these cars, which are, which are not going to be even useful a year from now.

That's, that's, that's a hard expense to swallow. But here's the thing. They got a lot of sponsorship to do that. When I look at this, this is what excites me the most about this whole opportunity. You tell me one company in America that would turn this phone call down. Hey, this is Michael Jordan, and I started a race team, me Danny Hamlin. I got my driver, Bubba Wallace. We'd love to fly out and have 20, 30 minutes of your time to tell you what we can do for your company.

You tell me one CEO in America that's not going to take that meeting. You tell me one CEO that's not going to say, hey, I want to be a part of this. They have more marketing prowess in this particular instance than anything we've ever seen. Here's the kicker, though, if Michael Jordan is truly as involved as we think he's going to be. And I don't know of any other outlet in NASCAR. If you people pay attention sometimes, we tell you what's going to happen without telling you what's going to happen. How many times have we said Michael Jordan on this show in the last month? I think you were in the first one to mention it.

I mean, we weren't trying to break anything. We sure got McGee last week, didn't we? Yeah. Hey, McGee, you think Michael Jordan's coming? No, 30 minutes later. Michael Jordan to enter NASCAR. I tried to set Ryan up to look extremely smart right there, and he just bowed out.

He didn't want anything to do with it. I mean, Ryan, if he would have listened to two or three shows before that, he would just went along with it. But now, what a great opportunity for sponsors and just the sport in general, man. My favorite part is when we have Bubba on here. And I'm going to say this without Freddie being here to defend himself. Okay.

His own fault. Freddy didn't tell me everything. He might have threw me. bits and pieces here and there when things would happen, but it would be typically after I'd already heard him. So we get Bubba on this show, and the first thing Freddie says is, I don't think we want Bubba on the show. I think we want to wait until he does his announcement.

And I said, I don't want to do that because he's going to go on every major media outlet in the country then. Like, I want him before the announcement. I want to know how did he quit Richard Petty Motorsports? I want to know certain things. Well, what Freddie didn't know is that I was going to ask him, have you talked to Michael Jordan? Freddie about his pants over there in that chair

because look at that point we'd heard rumbley that maybe Michael was out but Freddie and Bubba had just talked the day before so now Freddie thinks that Bubba thinks that he sold him out that he told me something which Freddie didn't so I just was curious if Bubba had talked to Michael Jordan and Freddie was sweating bullets

if you guys go back and listen to that show and listen to how quickly Freddie changed subjects it's because he thought Bubba was going to kick his ass because he thought he had ratted something out but honestly Would have been Freddie's first meeting in carpet land? No. But seriously, if I am the president of NASCAR, I am thrilled by this.

If I am the president of Toyota, I'm thrilled by this. There are a lot of people I think this can get excited. And listen, I would be remiss if I didn't say this. Germaine Motorsports has been in business a really long time. They have been a part of this sport. They've won truck championships. They've competed at the cup level. they put a lot of people in a position to make it in NASCAR.

And there's about 25 employees over there, which impacts hundreds of people because they have spouses, they have kids, they have grandkids. Those 25 people were probably not very excited to see this news. So when you see all these things that are so positive, there's still people with fallout, right? There's a lot of things coming. But there's also opportunity coming too. There is.

You know, for the, for the, it's going to, some of these people are probably going to get pretty good opportunities, and that's, that'll be great for them. But yeah, you hate to talk about the, you never want to talk about the, um, the turnover and stuff, you know, it happens. It's not just a NASCAR, it's in everything. It's in everything. Look, I mean, I may be impacted for them. But these are friends. A lot of these are friends and, and, uh, people we know. So you don't like to hear about it. It's easy to overlook that side of it. But we have a race team that's closing and, and welcome North Carolina. They're on the campus with RCR. They employed. Ty Dillon obviously is a driver, but they got people that worked there that read on the internet that officially their charter was gone. They were out of work. So I don't know. I just feel like it's so great for the sport, but for those 25 people, they were probably heartbroken. Yeah. Hey, Freddie, what do you think about the news? Freddie, how's your contract negotiations going? Have you talked to Michael Jordan? That's the exact face he would make if you said that now. That's a shi-and-green you got on there, It is.

I think something's up. What do you know? All right. Next one here. Kentucky and Chicago are rumored to lose cup dates on the 2821 race schedule could be changed out with Koda, Texas having the All-Star race, or maybe a Bristol dirt race. I'm not going first.

This is Brett's favorite racetrack. He's going to go first. All right. You don't like Kentucky either. I know, but you're very vocal about Kentucky. So tell me how much you are hurt right now. Well, here's what makes me excited. I was spot on two years ago when the NASCAR leadership came out and said,

we're going to have major schedule changes coming. And then last year, around this same time, they kind of backed way off of that and said, well, we may not have as major changes as we thought. And so people got mad. And they said, well, wait a minute. Like you. They've been wanting more roadcourses. They've been wanting more short tracks.

What are you going to do about it? Well, then they go at Nashville a mile and a half racetrack, right? And it's like, well, wait a minute. That's not what people said they wanted. And so now we're looking at places like Chicago land, never running a NASCAR race again in its current state, Kentucky Motor Speedway, never running a race again in its current state. That tells me those races are going somewhere.

And I know for fact-ish there's five road course races on the schedule next year. We know for fact? But it's rumored there's a sixth. And that sixth one will be the most exciting of all of them if it happens. So I'm spot on for NASCAR making these major changes. I'm spot off for it taking so long to get the schedule out. I know there's a lot of TV negotiations going on because there's realignments there. Obviously, they're working with tracks on who.

Some tracks are not going to get two dates next year. Some tracks are going to get a second day. Oh, where's Kentucky going, T.J. Right. That date has to go somewhere. What corner are we standing in that one that's going to be really good? What corner? Yeah.

What you mean? You said one's going to be really exciting. What corner the spotter is going to be in? Oh, I don't know. I want to be on top of tutsis. Does it come right by there? I can't wait for this schedule to come out. The word on the street is potentially it comes out on Wednesday.

I pray it's true because teams and drivers really need this thing to come out so we can go out and solidify sponsorship. but the only thing I'm not crazy about is this Bristol dirt race because we talked about last week I don't want to beat a dead horse but there's too many great dirt tracks in America for us to go I'm concerned about this I'm concerned about this because if we go to Bristol and we try to run a truck race and look we're going to have to practice we got no choice we're going to try to run practice for all three series we're going to run qualifying for all three series if we do typical dirt stuff

we're going to run heat races for all three series now we're going to run a race on off the way. Can that surface take all that? Yeah, I don't know. I'm spot on for the, for the schedule changes. I don't like seeing tracks lose dates, but I like seeing the schedule flex a little bit and know that we can do this. And, you know, if somebody builds a great racetrack, they know they might be able to get a date now, you know, if you, if you were interested in doing something like that, I think it's, I think it's great. I don't like, man, just something about covering Bristol and Dirt again. Like you said, I really, I really think, you know, when we watch a track like Eldora,

we're on our toes, the entire, that whole race, like, oh, is he getting brushed the wall? And they're not going super fast. I just think, I think a track like Knoxville might be just a little too big for our cars and just not enough banking. I know there, you know, you go to Eldora, you got guys that creep around the bottom. I know some guys can do that at Knoxville as well. But that really, that groove hasn't been there as much. And we've, we've proven the Adora shows. good. You catch lap traffic quick. You don't,

just good, man. It's an exciting event. I don't, one thing I don't really, I love the All-Star race at Bristol though. I love the short track All-Star race. Me too, and now it's going to Texas. And just, man, the short track,

I know Chase was really good there and he's fast and won the race, but man, just that stadium effect, man, All-Star race. When we can fill that place again, with fans and you know race for a million dollars or the short track could you imagine the spring bristle race there being ending like you know that be the all-star race with joey and and uh chase going on

and racing for a million dollars that's what short tracks can create we won't have that opportunity you're just not going to have that opportunity at texas i don't think what are you going to have a throw the yellow and have a green white checker finish and we're going to race for you know a lap and then we're going to string out. You're just not going to, I don't think you'll get that exciting finish with the way the package is right now. Just short tracks, you just can't get away from each other. Just, man, it's just, it had that, and there were any fans there.

The last race we went at Bristol was pretty awesome. I mean, it was energetic more than it has been that what we were used to the last couple months, two, three months. It's been, there was an atmosphere there that we really haven't felt lately. and it was kind of really good to feel that back. So really thought that was a good idea. But spot on to the schedule changes in a whole. I mean, I like that it's, I like that it's moved.

For years, we were stuck almost on the same thing. Like, you knew, you knew where we were going for, it was how many years in a row, we knew where, I could tell you what date I was going to be where. And now we, I like it that they move around. No one really has an advantage at some of these new places either. You know, we go to a new track. Nashville, who knows who's going to be fast air?

You look at NASCAR went and bought all the IAC stock up, and then you look at SMI bought all their stock up, it made them private entities again. They do whatever they want. So if they want to take a race from Michigan and throw it to another racetrack, boom, NASCAR can do that. They're going to do that. Then they want to close Chicago and sell it, boom, they're going to do it.

If we want to take a race from Kentucky and move it to Atlanta, boom, they can do that. the new track in California too. I mean, yeah, the new track, Fontana. Like, I mean, it allowed us for a big, I think, like, NASCAR almost said they were going to make changes. And they realized, wow, this is going to be a big undertaking. We don't really know if we want to do it. And then they were like, we have to do it. And the things that they've done to get them to this point and get us as a sport to this point, you've got to say hats off.

I'm excited. I'm excited. I'm excited. We got a new track coming, new tracks coming, apparently. I'm excited, man. I think the cool thing for the storylines to play out are looking. at it from next year's standpoint of, all right, we're talking about running these races with limited practice and or no qualifying, right? So if you look at these new tracks, clearly you

need to go there in practice because you don't have any of TJ's famous data, right? So you're going to have to practice, you're going to have to race. So if we go to CODA, boom, we've got to practice in a race. But they wouldn't let those full-time cup drivers run the lower series to practice for the cup race. That's interesting. Like, I think there's a lot of cool storylines that come out of this whole schedule. Which I think is pretty awesome. And they were strict on it too, man. That guy that ran that sports car or whatever was. Yeah, whatever.

I mean, they were strict on that stuff. So I think it's pretty good. It made for good races. I think it's awesome. Good stuff right here. Yep. Well, and that leads us into the final one here for spot-on, spot off, just with the concept of testing.

But NASCAR fined Hendrick Motorsports $100,000 for exceeding their allotted wind tunnel time this year. Didn't someone from Hendrick turned themselves in on that? Is that what I heard correctly? I don't know anything about it. What do you think, Freddie? Oh, yeah? Okay. He's an awful smiley over there.

I promise you, he's not smiling at that at home right now. I also do not have a lot of details on this. I can just tell you that a $100,000 fine in the grand scheme of things with what could potentially be gained with additional wind tunnel time or if you make a move to get additional horsepower, anything that you do to make your cargo faster, if they were going to charge Gene Haas, Roger Penske, $100,000 right now to go find a half a tenth.

Guess what they do, T.J. Pay it. Pay it. Yeah. Well, I'm pretty sure, too, they took 10 hours of their allotted wind tunnel time next year away. So next year they're supposed to have 80. Now they only have 70. So there was 100,000 and 10 hours of wind time.

Jason can probably correct me on this. So how many hours were they over this year? It was minutes. They were only over by minutes. Woo. Somebody better get a new watch. That's a $100,000 watch. We've got a nice watch for that.

Is that like, that's not, what do you call that? It's not the DVP clock. What kind of clock is that? The arrow, AVP clock, Arrow vehicle policy? I mean, what do we got? Hey, Siri, what kind of watch can I get for $100,000? So if it's minutes, like we talk in like 20 minutes, 30 minutes, $100,000 for 20 minutes, I mean, what are we going to pay to, what are we going to pay to, what are we going to pay to,

pay for a couple hours here. Yeah. That's pretty, if it's only minutes, I mean, I'm glad they're strict with it. I'm glad, you know, if it was, I don't know that, like you said, I don't know how many minutes it was, but I'm glad they recognized it and, you know, basically said, hey, this isn't okay. So I know it's not a ton like he said in the grand scheme of things, but at least they're recognizing it and, you know, wasn't a secret fine. Hey, we're headed down to the great state of Alabama to race at one of my favorite tracks, Talladega this weekend.

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And each time, we're going to see who can answer the fastest and how many you can get right. So, TJ, you are up first here. All right, first question here. Where did Joey Lagano start on Sunday? Fifth. Who led the second most laps in Sunday's race? Chase Elliott. Who was the highest finishing non-playoff driver in the Xfinity Series race?

Oh my gosh. Ryan Seek? No, he's in the playoffs. What is a baby kangaroo called? A baby? A pup. There's even pun in this one. Roo?

What is the name of the fairy in Peter Pan? Tinkerboe? I knew you knew that. And what is the total number of dots on a pair of dice? 25. All right. You got three out of six. I'll take it.

Hemrick was the highest finishing non-playoff driver in the experience series race. Good for him. Yeah. A baby kangaroo is called a Joey. Oh, that's good. I actually did know that. And there's 42 dots on a paradise. Holy cow.

There's 42 dots on a... Oh, a paradise, not one. Okay, I still have been wrong anyway, but okay. All right, Brett, you're up. Ready? Okay, I'm ready. All right, how many stage points did Clint Boyer earn on Sunday? Four.

Who finished last in the cup race. Last. Timmy heel. Who led the most laps in the Xfinity series race? Second most. Second most. I know who won. Noah Glaxen.

You just know that we're done. I just know Noah's mad at us. I'm going to say his name as much as I can. Do what? What color is a polar bear's skin? Pink. Which princess lived with the seven dwarfs? Snowlight.

How many noses does a slug have? 12. Good job, 1-06 Brett. TJ's the champion. Yeah, say that again. Turned, TJ is the champion. I made Freddie get zero. All right, Freddie's turn?

I beat Freddy. Clint Boyer had three stage points on Sunday. Damn. Chad Finchum finished last in the experience, or in the cup race. I thought I finished eighth in stage two. That's three points, and I finished 10th in stage one. That's one point. I can double check

but I'm pretty sure you finish nine. It don't matter. All right. I still lost. Pullers bear's skin is black. Ross Chastain led the second most lap scene series race. And a slug has four noses. Wow, if he led the second most,

that couldn't have been many because he hit the wall at lap 30. I think it was like 15 or so. Yeah. All right. Self-induced. Yeah, that's right. Smarter than a fifth grader day. Things are looking up.

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exclusive behind-the-scenes NASCAR content. Shout out to Xfinity, premier partner of NASCAR and our podcast. Hey, there she is. Hi. Hello. Look at that little thing. Um, Chloe is already bigger than TJ. Yeah.

I know. Yeah. Getting tall. Probably already a better basketball than Jason. Look how pretty you look. New mama looking good. Oh, yeah. This is like the first time I put on makeup in a really long time.

So I figured out with a make an effort today. How's mom life? Uh, it's pretty good. Challenging, right? Three hours, three hours last night, is. And you're up. Freddie has zero excuses. right now. So Casey, you slept three hours. You made the show. You're not even supposed to be on the show.

Freddie got at least eight hours sleep, four on the plane, four at home, and he missed the show. Yeah. But he sent his picks in. Yeah, that works, Freddie. But Casey, as long as you've known, Freddie, does this surprise you about him that he didn't show? No. Honestly, is he drunk at the same time? No. You saw the group text. Freddy is the only one that said, I'll be good for four hours of sleep. He's the only one that said anything about that. So from now on, whenever you guys have a West Coast race. Just don't even ask him, tell him, like, sorry, you're, we know you can't commit to this. We're just cutting his pay. We're taking half of nothing. I mean, honestly, Brett, when you were, like, completely drunk out of your mind and Uber to the show, like,

that's dedication. Yes. So, if Freddie, if Freddie can't, like, Brett lives a lot further away than Freddie, too. Freddie could probably have walked here by now. Yeah. And he could probably stand or walk here. What kind of show are you running, Jason, where I'm not here? And now, people are just dropping off falling part so tell us chloe's been a good baby a crying baby fussy baby great baby talk to us i mean you've been thrown up on yet oh yeah all the time uh she's really good except she has like a ton of uh like congestion and gas so she doesn't sleep very often which means i don't sleep very often um so that's been fun but otherwise it's uh

where's chat i mean where's chat i mean where's chat He's working. He raced all this weekend, so he didn't sleep at all either, which was nice. He slept in the hotel rooms. He slept real good. Yeah, seriously. They won on Saturday night, and they came home and I was like, I hope you realize you're not sleeping at all tomorrow because I haven't slept, so you don't either. That's right. Shoot. Susan clearly hasn't changed either. But Susan clearly doesn't bother. She can hear Susan, and Janet's like, is that my friend.

Apparently, Chloe's used to Susan, or yeah, by now, because she didn't even flinch when the dog barked. Yeah, I thought that Susan, like, would wake her for everything. But I guess because they can hear when they're in your stomach, like, for months, she doesn't even flinch whatsoever. It drives us up the law. How do we know they can hear when they're in your stomach? Well, didn't. What? How do we know that she can hear when she's in your stomach?

I don't know. I just looked it up. When you would put your head on your wife's belly, wouldn't you get kicked? True. I guess you can, like, know, see light, too. It's very weird. I don't know.

But either way, I would know all that. Yeah, I don't know. She sleeps. Well, that's good. She's got this head full of black hair. Is it falling out or not? No, not yet.

No? She's got more hair than I do. It's pretty cute, though. I've had, mine were different. Malin was born, had a decent amount of hair. Then it all fell out. Then it grew back.

Stella was born with a full head of hair. And now she still has it. It's the hardest part of my day. So I call her the long hair dragon, which is mad. I want her to keep her hair, and she has blue eyes right now, bluish gray. So I want that too, even though that's not going to, like, that'll change you real soon. But she's pretty cute. I also want to thank you guys because, T.J, you gave me like a motivational pep talk via face time before I went into labor.

Brett, you helped me with breastfeeding. I mean, you're welcome. You guys were on it. Yeah. He's really on it. I try to text and keep up with you and make sure you're all right and stuff. Yeah, you guys have. I mean, you really have like.

So you haven't heard from Freddie at all? So you haven't heard from Freddie? See, we give you a lot of trouble. You know, if you were here right now, we'd probably give you a hard time still, but we do care about you. Thanks. I do. Yeah, you guys definitely care.

We're family. I mean, I felt your presence when I was, yes, I felt your presence. Don't worry. I took your advice, breastfeeding Brett. you you were really on it so what exactly advice did brett give you on this i'm curious too yeah what did you tell me you said like it was like the first few days and you're like make sure you pump like that's really important the first few days i said if chloe is super fussy it means she's freaking hungry and it means your milk can come in and you need to pump to supplement what you

need to make make her full that's what i say it. Look, I've never had to breastfeed myself. So I look like I can breastfeed. Okay, since you said it. I know pumping made it way easier, way less stress in our relationship at home to feed because then I could do it. You know, I could feed at times too and stuff, which I loved because there's, and you're going to, you're doing a lot of this right now.

There's a lot of two, three o'clock in the mornings when you're sitting there in that chair feeding the baby and they're just staring at you like, you know, thank you for feeding me. You know what I mean? You just wonder what they're just staring at you. Those are some of the best times I remember about my kids. It's true. I mean, that helped me. And then like with Chad, too, I'm hoping, although we're not at the point yet where

he'll wake up with her. I can't wait until he has that baby alone for the first time. He's going to be so scared. Yeah, I don't know. I think so. Oh, yeah. I like all like go take a shower and stuff because, I mean, with COVID, I haven't really done it a ton.

But take a shower and, like, let him hang. And he'll just watch, like, he was watching the race last night with her. And, like, I don't know. They don't do anything right now. It's really easy to watch him right now. No. You can even, like in a normal time, you could even take them out to eat and just put the blanket over the little thing. And they just sit there and sleep, you eat.

It gets, that gets a lot more difficult here in another, about another year. You'll be like, do you want to go out to eat? No, I don't want to deal with the fit or whatever. But will I sleep more? Because I would prefer that. sleep will go up here once they get into a schedule. The schedule is important. Ish.

It'll go up when like, I'm like a drill sergeant with my kids. Like when it's nap time, it's nap time. But I think you know when they're going to be fussy at that point. At least I liked that. I knew when they were going to be fussy. I knew when they were going to be hungry and stuff. But, uh, she looks awesome. So newborn moms.

Yeah. Some love help. Some don't like help. You're probably pretty limited in what help you can even have with COVID going on. Right. So are you having to do this pretty much by your or you got in-laws helping or what do you got i know your mom was here last week yeah i mean they're here and like that's the thing it's tough because every doctor has told us like you know you need the

help but no you you can't have anybody around here so how does that you know like that doesn't really tell us much um but we've had we're taking it really careful like the first month or so and they're wearing masks and um not many people are around here we've maybe we've just had chads uh like like our our family, like our parents, both of our parents have really been the ones to help. People want to kiss babies in the camp. Yeah, I feel bad that I hate that you can't enjoy a lot of that because, man, you got, you know, you have a baby and it's really exciting and stuff. And, um, I'm excited for you.

I can't wait until everything kind of clears up and it's safer and stuff and we can see her. I really want to be able to take her out and not have her in PJs every day. And I mean, we take walks and like, we'll do like a picnic or something. But gosh, it's, it's, it is. is honestly so tough not being able to take her around people that you want to and have like a normal life. I'm like waiting for the day that we can do something like that. Yeah. But. Kia is the love owner, man. There's no such thing as spoling a kid too much when you're just loving on them. Now, if you're holding her all the time, you're spilling her because she's going to want to be held all the time.

And you're going to wish you would have done that. Yep. I learned my lesson. She's already there. Good. She loves to sleep right on top of me like she is right now. Well, you held her for nine months already. Of course she's going to want to be hailed by you. Hey, how about the, how's the Mamaroo? A thumbs up or a thumbs down?

Oh, yeah, thumbs up for sure. Oh, really? She likes it. She'll sleep in it. So I started, like, you know how you, like they have those, like, things that you can put around you, like the carriers. So I started, I have to start using those because otherwise, like, I'll sit on the couch. and not do anything all day because I can't move because she wants to sleep on me. Oh, she's spoiled.

Already, yeah. You're going to be recording a podcast with her on your stuck to you. Well, in my defense, though, she's been, uh, she's also been very, like, congested. So she won't sleep laying down as well. So I've had to hold her for that and then she just kind of got used to it. That'll start clearing up, I think. It'll start clearing up here. And Dr. TJ Majors.

ladies and gentlemen. I was going to say, please do. You know, if you get a little dropper, we've got some medicine over here that will help her sleep through the night. All right, Casey, we got to keep this thing moving. We love you. We miss you. I actually have a meeting today, and I have to leave.

You're always the one who bails on our show. Freddie didn't show up today, and I got a bell. So we will have you back on here before the end of the year. And, well, actually, next week, I think you're starting back, right? Yeah, we're trying to work on that. We're working on. Come on, Chad. Come on, Chad.

We need Casey for about an hour, hour and a half. You can do it. I mean, please tell him. Everybody tweet him and say, Chad, can you watch Chloe while Casey does a podcast? Well, you just did, so there's your video clip, Jason. We'll see. We'll see. We'll see.

It's good to see you. Yeah. Yeah, she's awesome. Thanks. See you guys soon. See you later. Such a cute little nugget. Hitful liar.

I'm proud of Casey for finally having Chloe and. I mean, literally, you can't have help right now. Like, all the people used to help. Holy cow. And babies are fun. It's exciting when you, when someone has, especially if it's your first one, you want people to, you know, introduce her to people and stuff. So, yeah.

Tough time for Casey, but really excited and happy for. Your turn, Hannah. Where's Dylan? I'm right here. What kind of music? Is that Barry White we hear in the background? Oh, boy. You don't even know who Keith Sweat is, do you?

You never heard of Keith Sweat. By the facial expressions, that's not. No. Dang. No. Am I supposed to? Somewhere out there, there's a person listening to this show. They graduated high school between 1988 and 1995, and they love Keith Sweat.

Yeah, I was born in 97. Yeah. Sounds like you love Keith Sweat. You were probably made to Keith Sweat. I was going to say. I don't know if they had music in Idaho back then, though. Probably not. Transition radios.

while you were doing it. Key sweat. Wow. All right. Keep it rolling. Ask DBC. Send in your questions 24-7 on Twitter using the hashtag AskDBC. All right.

Back to those questions. Ask DBC. First one is from HR Topham. They said with the three losing a belt possibly from having ran over debris, what has been some of your? your most bizarre ways that have ended your day at the track, T.J. Oh, man. It didn't really end my day, but the time, uh, something bizarre that kind of happened

was when Del Jr. Steeringville came off and I was just looking at the car and next thing you know, the thing hangs the left and down there in turn three at Talladega, I think it was. It disappears out of my side. I'm like, what, we were under caution and he saved it. And I, yeah, and I'm like, what just happened? My car just disappeared and it's spun down to the inside what is he doing in there so that was that was uh that's scary it was it was scary and steve park almost lost his life because of that jimmy johnson wrecked at bristol because of that definitely definitely but that was probably uh the most bizarre thing that i can think of that happened to me the weirdest thing i remember elliot sadler texas 2000

actually had a really really really good car with the wood brothers and we'd been racing sterling marlin that day and something or somebody hit us in the left rear and when the they did, T.J., it cut the tire. And when it cut the tire, it shredded it the long ways. And the tire as it was making revolutions around the wheel, went through the crush panels, and managed to start hitting Elliott on his left shoulder blade. Ouch. So by the time he gets stopped. No. No, he stuck. He's strapped in. Five point harness back then, not six.

But he's strapped in, and all of a sudden he has this tire pounding him on his left shoulder. And so he's screaming on the radio. I haul butt to the care center. I was doing PR for him back then and Sitgo Patrol him. And I get to the care center and, dude, his uniform is destroyed and his tire, his shoulder is bruised. And Kyle Petty ended up getting in the car to finish the race for the Woodbrose. Back then, you could obviously put your car back on the track. But Elliot was not in any shape to go drive.

That was probably the most bizarre thing that I've ever personally seen put, put my guy out of a race. It's like one of those bad massage chairs. Pull, pull, pull, pull, pull, pull. Yeah. Yeah. Alarming, right? That would hurt. I mean, there's no way you can, you know, something.

It's not soft rubber. You can't do that. Yeah, you can't just move your shoulder over either. I mean, you literally have to sit there and take it until the car stops. Yeah, like a man. Yeah. Oh, boy. All right.

Next one from Lucas 521. Have any of you accidentally spotted the wrong car like Corey LaJoy's spotter admitted to tonight? Brett, didn't you do that during an experience? No, man. We'd never spot the wrong car. What an idiot. Who does that?

I don't know. You never admit to it. Yeah, I spot all the wrong car. We used to change paint schemes every day and week back in the day. Like, yeah, I spot the wrong car. Darlington one time, I started calling a guy on the outside of Dell Jr. In 3 and 4, and I looked down there. He's against the wall.

I had the wrong car, and there was anybody near him. And same thing at Richmond. I had been spotting for Algeyer for a couple of years, and I was used to spot in this bright orange car. Dell Jr. decides he wants to run that race, so I had a spot for Dale Jr. While I look off of turn four, we're about 8, 10 carlings in front of Allgaier,

but I look off of turn four and I see this orange car and there's a car on the outside of him. So I start calling outside. Well, I look at, and then I'm like, oh, wait a minute. So I look at the start finish line and Del Jr. is not racing anybody,

not near anybody, but he is swerving left on the straightaway thinking somebody was about to be outside of when he was already against the wall. So at least he listens. It happens. I mean, if you do enough races, it's going to happen. I did it probably the first time I ever did it

Elliot had run the M&M's car for three and a half years he got out of the M&M's car and into the Dodge car number 19 car and David Gilliland got into literally Elliot's paint scheme in the M&M's car and we were at Dover man I started spotting for David Gilliland yeah he never heard such good spotting he's never had a spotter as good as I was worried but too bad he couldn't hear me I was spotting wrong car I was worried about leaving the 88 because I had been spotting the 88 since it started

and that was 10 years worth of racing. I was worried about leaving the 88 and going to the 22 and then start spotting the 80, but I never had an issue with that. People get confused, man, so we don't just stare at our car the whole time. I have people ask me that, how do you stare at your car for four hours? We don't do that. I personally had a mile and a half track like what we were at yesterday once all that calamity of a restart is done. I scan what's coming by and Clint, look a quarter of the track in front of them,

because you want to know if there's runs you need to protect. you know, grooves that are working out to be faster. And then obviously in front of him, you don't want him to drive into a wreck. So, like, we have this routine that we go through. But then something will happen. I have to track ahead of him, and it'll catch your eye. And it could be that it's a wreck. It could be a pass for the lead.

It could be a lot of things, right? But when your attention shifts there, then you have to shift back. And if you have a car like the Menard's car that you could literally see from the moon, it's easy to go back to that car. But if you do have a car, like T.J. said, that changes paint schemes weekly, it's hard to go right back to that car. And a lot of times you'll associate it with who you're running around because maybe Joy Lugano's car is easy to see that weekend.

And you knew you were racing him for a position. But it's not like we're staring at the car and all of a sudden start spotting for a different car. And again, I've done it once this year. And we were at Darlington and I looked down in three and four. And I looked back in one and two, which is where we were. And I said, clear, I'll clear. Because I thought we had passed one of those cars that are 87 miles an hour off the pace.

And nothing was. said about it because Clint was clear, thank goodness. But after the race, Clint's brother called me out and goes, hey, I think Brett spotted for the wrong car that one time. He just started screaming. And there wasn't any reason to tell you you were clear, all clear. And he was right. And so Clint called me, you spot for the wrong car. I was like, yeah, 100%. I think, I'll tell you what's the most challenging part of that is when you're not really spotting for your car, but you're spotting, when you're spotting your car, you're using other car numbers. You know, if a guy, if a guy changes the pain scheme, you're trying to let the driver know because every driver drives a little bit different,

has different tendencies and stuff. And you want to be accurate on the car numbers, you know, you'd be like outside the 14. Well, if I mess that up and I say outside the another car, you know, it's a whole different, it's a whole different ballgame on how you might, how you might drive that, how you might race that corner against that guy. So let's talk about this. There's no team worse than doing this than the two, the 12, and the 21. Those three guys At what? That's swapping around paint schemes and looks, and you don't know who's who. Yesterday I called Blaney the two, and it was a 12, and they've all got that similar scheme,

you know, where they all have the same flow, obviously different colors. The 21 of the 12, I can see because sometimes Blaney run the Menards car, and it's like, wait a minute, okay. So it's hard. Definitely. It's challenging. We ran a, I believe we ran the last Vegas race with two cars that were yellow. like I was having to call pit stops on which car was which which nose we were coming in because ours and Blaney's car looked just like each other and uh but you definitely spot it's hard for

spotters like knowing what cars are what you know if you're in a battle and you're in a like some of them restarts you it's hard to tell when a guy changes a paint scheme where you got four or five different paint schemes it's um it can be challenging I think man you look fans are fans are going to be shocked this week when this schedule comes out and and and if you live near Kentucky Speedway, you're going to be upset. I remind you guys that a lot of thought and effort has gone into putting this schedule together, and I think it's truly going to be for the betterment of the sport. Not only for next year, but moving forward, it's key, like TJ said, to shake it up.

I would think we still see Phoenix as the end race. What do you think? Oh, yeah, probably. I think so. And I hope it's the last year we see it as the end race for a while, because I like that shaking up, man. I like for us to make it special. I still like Homestead is the end result deal. It's just been, we don't have repeat winners, man.

I want to move it around every year, and then I want to take a week off, and then I want to have the banquet and the All-Star race the same weekend in Nashville, race at the fairgrounds, let those guys go out there and race for a million bucks, all the chase guys. I mean, that's ultimately your All-Stars, because if you want to race, guess what? I thought the field was – I thought the field for that was set correctly. Go go to a short track. let's do the banquet and all-star race all in one weekend.

And anyway, I'm not the president of NASCAR, so that doesn't matter what I want to do. But as a fan, don't get on Twitter and start about the schedule and how you're mad that this track lost a race. Just use it as opportunity to go to one of these places, you know. We've all been saying we need to shake it up. If you're close to Kentucky, and I know, I mean, I love the Kentucky area, man. I love the driving it. You take some of them side roads into the racetrack and stuff. That's some of the prettiest countryside that you can see.

We can't take away Chicago and abandon the Midwest. We still have to race somewhere in that area. So be supportive, man. I think a lot of people are going to be happy when this new schedule comes out. But if you're not happy, take a day and you'll be happy. And go somewhere new, man. Go to a, go to a Martinsville. Just go somewhere new.

And I'm sure Brett will be and Freddie will be more than willing to do a meet and greet when things open up with them track. So it'd be a great opportunity for you. I'm going to, I think if you're not happy. You like how it was Brett and Freddie would be more than happy to do a meet and greet. Not, hey, I'll go too because I'm part of this time. I just assumed they would already know I would be there. But Fred and Freddy will go and meet you.

Of course I would go. Freddy won the DBC pick at Vegas. Freddie D&Q's this one. Right. So you're just going to D&Q him here? He got so lucky. I was going to wear him out until T.J. screwed up three wide thing up. Dang it.

I did screw it up. So who picks first? T.J's first. Oh, yeah. My guy got in an accident. Oh, boy. everybody I pick has bad luck so I will go

with I already pick Kyle I can't pick him again I'm going to go Danny Hamlin solid choice I have a hard choice to make Keselowski or Blaney and I think because it's a wild car race Blaney's been good there here in the spotter Josh Williams obviously been clicking on all eight cylinders

so to speak Ryan Blaney who's afraid I got he has got Brad Kislovsky. Oh, I should have picked Brad then. Screwed him. Well, we can cut that out. I actually picked Brad. Freddie don't know.

No, Fredi don't know. We'll give him Quinn Hoff. Perfect. Yes, there we go. Producer makes the call. That's actually a... That actually should be a good punishment for Freddie. He needs to learn a lesson from this, right?

If you miss football practice... Let's just tell him the entire time that we've decided that since he skipped out and could have made the show in time to make his pick, that Jason has made the pick for him as punishment. And what does, he can still have Brad, but we're going to make him think the entire time that he has, Quinn. P1. I like it.

And look, Talladega is always wild. But these stage-ins right now are going to be as wild. And I know we said this, the last plate race we had. It was an elimination race. We had two guys vying for four spots. This one may be the wildest one ever because we're going to have Joy Lugano has got to get stage points. Guess what? We need stage points.

So does Austin Dillon and he's dead last. He's P12 out of the playoff drivers. So the three, the 10, the 14, the 18, nobody is safe because if we have a guy like Austin Dillon go and win this race, that puts out another guy on points. Then we go to the roval and we have another guy like Clint Boyer that may be out. He goes and wins the Roval. Boom. Now there's only one person. I'm sorry, five people going on points.

So, like, winning these, I've never, to me, winning a race at Talladega starts today. It doesn't start when we buckle in the car, doesn't start when we get to the racetrack. There's some things that we do to prepare for the weekend. To me, winning the race Talladega starts today. And winning every stage starts today. And that's what we have got, including people like Joy Lagano, that has two wins this year. I don't think he's in really a lot better boat than Clint Boyers. Yeah, the best thing that's coming about this race is we're all going for it.

And it's going to be, you're probably going to see less, you know, less, it's just so the field now that has to make it so diverse. It's going to be hard for, it's hard for them to say, well, everyone needs to help this guy because now everyone has about two or three guys, three guys or so that they need help. You know, we all want to be up there. And even the guys that are safe that are in, you don't, you got to protect it. You got to protect it. You got to protect it. So I'm looking forward to that because I feel like that plays into, I feel like that plays into the aggressive guy that, you know, if it's everyone for themselves, I feel really

confident about that. So we'll go to work this week and work real hard at fine-tuning things that we need to do and go and try to just run the best we can. No-chews lane, which means we can align with our teammates. This week or next week. You can work with a guy on the front row, which we've seen happen a lot since the tandem racing came about. But outside of that, I think it truly is – the manufacturers are going to have some deals, I guess. But to me, at the end of these stages –

But if you look at the field, it's going to be hard to say that everyone pushes this car right now. He needs a win. Yeah. I mean, Chevy's got three guys, four guys that could need wins now. Yeah. And, you know, the same thing. we're in right now, but like you said, if one of them guys wins that's behind us, I mean, that changes everything.

Changes it all. So we need stage points. We need the win. Go for it. With that, I think they're letting some fans come to the cup race at Talladega, Alabama. I don't think there's any fans in the stands on Saturday, but there are fans there for Sunday. And I think it's the most exciting race, potentially of the year. Yeah, shoot, man.

This is going to be a big one. It's going to be exciting. It's going to be sighting. It's going to be sighting. It's like a Wild West, man. Everybody going for it. Gloves are off. Gloves are off.

Hopefully we see you guys down to Talladega. I hope you guys can tune in and watch. One of the places that I certainly miss fans truly being at is Talladega, because I know how hard they party on that infield, and I know how hard they get after them grandstands. And we usually spot. We used to spot right where the top of the row of the grandstands was at. Sure, we'll be there again.

Yeah, good chance we'll be there again. So Talladega, tune in. Can't, I can't hype this one up enough. It's going to be awesome. Yeah, same here. I'm excited. Hannah, thanks for coming on. Jason, thanks for producing, Dildner.

Thanks for sitting behind the camera. We out. Holla. See ya. Check out Dirty Mo Media on YouTube, Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram. Dirty Mo.