Door Bumper Clear - 194 - Let 'Em Race!

Episode Date: October 5, 2020

Talladega Superspeedway produced a wild playoff race on Sunday and T.J. Majors, Brett Griffin and Freddie Kraft are back from their spotter perch high above the track to talk all about it. After NASCAR made numerous yellow line rule related decisions in the Cup race, the guys analyze the penalized moves. Should Denny Hamlin have won the race? Was Matt DiBenedetto’s penalty fair? Why did Chase Elliott’s penalty get rescinded? The crew debates all these, plus more. Joey Logano raced aggressively all day long and received two penalties for forcing another car below the yellow line. T.J. walks us through what happened and how it impacted the No. 22 team’s day. Bubba Wallace found himself up front for much of the race before two late race accidents. Freddie breaks down the strong day and what ended it. Jimmie Johnson said Clint Bowyer’s move that caused a big one was “the stupidest thing I’ve seen in my career.” Brett responds and explains what took Bowyer out of the race and put him in playoff bubble trouble. The 2021 NASCAR schedule includes major changes including the addition of road courses and a Bristol dirt race. The gang weighs in on what NASCAR got right, wrong and which races they are most looking forward to. It’s Charlotte Motor Speedway ROVAL race week and with more playoff eliminations ahead, our spotters discuss who’s safe and in danger, plus what to expect this Sunday. Want more DBC? Check out and subscribe to the new DBC YouTube channel! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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Good news. I woke up on time today after a wild Sunday at Talladega. We'll cover the controversial yellow line rulings at the finish, all of us wrecking and blocking throughout the race, and the 2021 Cupskin. We've got a lot to talk about, so let's get started. Nobody's listening, but I don't care. I'm on an episode of Door Bumper Clear.

I'm PJ Majors. Fred Ripman. Hey, me too now. This is Freddie Kraft. Get ready. Be ready. Be ready. Hey, be ready.

Give me what you got here. New leader. I'll watch out for this guy. White flag. Recognize. Hello. Clear. Bring home.

Three light. Coming to the line. Door. Bumper. Clear. Woo!! Hey, everybody. I am TJ Majors.

It's part of the 22 cup car and 99 truck. Fool house today. Speaking of truck, go truck yourself. Brett Griffin's spotter for Clint Boyer We drove an amazing race yesterday Like a truck Talk about a dump truck Yeah no kidding

No point I'm sorry not a dump truck It was a bulldozer And fortunately Freddy's alarm went off today Freddy Kraft is in the house And he was actually my Uber driver this morning So shout out for picking me up

I needed to get my oil changed I know You got my bottle of water I thought you did D is figuratively or literally Because I thought that just happened I was gonna say I'm glad you were on pace with that

Yeah, he had a free bottle of water and everything. What's up, Freddy Craft? I am awake. Good news. For some, bad news for others. Spotted for Bubba Wallace, Derek Krauss and A.J. Almonddinger this week led every race. Had nothing to show for it.

It was fun. You wrecked a lot of stuff this weekend, didn't you? Two out of three. AJ, yeah, we wrecked at the end of the, we wrecked at the end of both races. Derek didn't wrecked it? Derek didn't wrecked it? He almost, he tried to wrecked, but. We didn't.

But in studio, we have our lovely substitute co-host, Hannah Newhouse. Yeah, and I'm Hannah Newhouse filling in again for Casey Boat, and I never thought I'd say it, but it's actually kind of nice to see you guys. You know what's funny? Say that again. Yeah, nope. I'm sure that's on tape now, so. So this is the first time since we suspended the show for the pandemic in person.

We went remote. It's the first time we've had a host with the most back. So welcome. Yeah. Yeah. I know. I'm glad I'm on the other side of the table from you guys now. This is great.

to just keep this post-pandemic. See, you'll be here. You'll be here until you get pregnant and then we'll have enough. You're pregnant? No. Not yet. Let's not start that. Last time we started this, it happened.

I'm just saying, did we not? I mean, it happened. I need a ring first. I mean, that chair has a history of getting people pregnant. It does. It's contagious. It's one for one. Are you sure Freddy's not sitting in that one?

I've been pregnant for 12 years now. Freddy's looks pregnant. Oh my God. Freddie, Casey was pissed. You never reached out to her in the last few months or so. I texted her after what she had a baby. Yeah. She don't forget that she has baby brain now, dude.

She's dumb and hell. Well, you wouldn't answer the group face time for the delivery. Every kid that a woman has makes them, makes their brain just a part of their brain goes away forever. I was going to text Chad yesterday because he did some, he did Dylan's podcast and I've seen a video of it and my man's got some hair. We got to talk about. Chad does? Yes. Like, it's, we got to talk about it.

I'm telling you, Hannah, like when you have kids, like you could. walk into your favorite fast food restaurant. Let's just say it's Bojangles. And you walk in and they'll be like, hey, welcome to Bojangles. Can't take your order? And you'll be like, man, I don't know what I eat here. I don't know what I want. And it's like you've been coming here.

Your whole life, lady, you want a freaking sausage biscuit in a sweet tea. Order it. So Casey's going to come back and be like, what's the show again? Who are you people? Yeah. I mean, TJ, have you lived through that? I think I've been living through that even before kids. Oh my gosh.

Wait, speaking of Bojangles, was it you that tweeted the picture that you guys went there for breakfast? He gets breakfast sandwiches and then goes, oh, by the way, I want a chicken leg too. So we order, I go, I walk up. I walk up, I said, I need a Caj and Flee biscuit. What do you want, Brett? Brett goes, I'll take a Caj and Filet sandwich and a chicken leg. And I said, I just looked at him.

I didn't even know what to say. I was like, what is that a side item? Did you say a chicken leg? Like, like. Freddy goes, did you just order a chicken leg? I'm like, yeah, bro, it's good breakfast food. All right. Why are you blinging up?

Yeah, what are you doing? Well, I just remember, so my little boy, uh, eight years old, they won another tournament for, uh, eight you baseball. And, and so he asked me if I'd wear the bling on the show. So I brought all my champion. I didn't win the championship race yesterday. Damn sure it didn't. But, but I'm celebrating a baseball championship.

That rings biggest his hand. Another baseball championship. I mean, is it plastic? supposed to be for you or Bodie because that would fit around. This thing's heavy. It's awesome. American flag on the side. Show your ring off.

Yeah, hold your ring up, man. It's heavy. I mean, look at the bling here. I can't win a ring race in NASCAR, but I can wear it. I can wear an eight-year-old baseball ring. Do you know that? All you haters out there kiss my ass. That team went from, like, not able to win a game to, like, being the champions.

Twice now, yeah. So they were like, you said they were terrible in the beginning, right? The spring season. And you switched to coaches, right? Yeah, we got new coaches. We got real coaches now. We got rid of the fake coaches. The problem with the last coaches, he played ball at Clemson.

Wasn't that you guys? Didn't they coach basketball? No, you coach basketball, right? I coach basketball. I'm not good to be in basketball if we just got some coaches. You'd have a hand four rings. Yeah, so a big baseball weekend. Weather at Talladega was like baseball weather, man.

It was perfect. This is a perfect fat guy weather. I mean, it was 75 sunny. Beautiful. Shame our commerce weather. I went down to Tyler during the Xfinity race because we were trying to work together with Ross and E.J. I didn't see y'all work together, any. And I noticed.

And he's like, it's freezing up here. I'm like, well, you need a cheeseburger. I mean, if you had a cheeseburger, you'd be fine. But he's 12 pounds now, and that's why you're cold. This is fat guy weather. I suffer through the summer, and now you can suffer now. Yeah, Talladega. It was awesome.

Do you watch all the races, Hannah, what do you have going on? I know you're busy. Yeah, I actually did. I covered for, Jacqueline at the bar that she works at Hoppen Vine and Davidson, so I bartend it all weekend. Wow. Yeah, so I got the races on. I didn't know you could barton.

See, you race, bartend, do podcast, do MRN. I mean, you're just... I paint cars. Renaissance woman. You fix cars, that's right. Oh, speaking of that, I got to talk to you about something. Yeah, I know. Your wife already texts me.

This sounds like a good story. What happened? She checks me well before. No, we're not telling that story on here. She would have been in truck race at Talladega, too? She might have been in the race. She was in front of Clint, actually. Yeah, she was following Clint through the field the other day.

From the sounds of it, it might be more than my hope that you need on that. No, no, I don't think so. No, that's not that bad. So, anyhow, Taladayor. The Roval, guys. We should all be good there. I don't know. My race was really good right up until I missed a huge block at five to go,

and then my race took a real big turn for the worst. Man, it's so hard. And, you know, the weird thing is I, I mean, I've been done doing this, obviously, a long time. and I've raced a lot of various different packages at that particular track. And this package, you seem gridlock, gridlock, gridlock, and all of a sudden, all hell breaks loose. And then it's like you're back to two by two or three by three or whatever it is, and your gridlock, gridlock, gridlock, all hell breaks loose. Like it's just the accordion effect is bad, you know, and that kind of creates that mess that leads opportunity.

And I don't know, man. And it's probably as hard as ever to control your own fate in terms of being able to actually go up through there, make moves. Track position freaking matters at Talladega of all places. Yeah, and Taledega is a lot wider than Daytona. You know what I mean? Like, you can, there's, I feel like Daytona's a little bit easier to control runs and stuff because there's only so far they can go. You know, I screwed up. I haven't told Bob on the radio we were under red for one of them wrecks.

I said, man, I should have seen that coming because it was the Penske cars lined up on the bottom. I should have known. I didn't know as soon as they were get there. They were going to go there, but we just reacted to it too late. But still, I mean, even if we reacted, I'm not sure we were going to beat Joey to the bottom. And then even if we did get to the bottom, we got three Penske cars lined up on our bumper with five to go. So we're probably a sitting duck anyway. But, you know, like you said, it's hard.

Like you get out front and you see a lot of times, like two, three years ago, Joey could get out front or Danny or whoever. And they could control both lines at the race. You know, I mean, you can't do that no more. I don't think. I mean, the runs come, the runs form faster. There's no, like, it used to be a run comes. You could stall it, then come back to the next line, stall that. But now, like, you stall one run.

By the time you get back to the next one, that top line's got another run coming. So it's just a lot harder, I feel like, to block runs. And I think you're, I talked to Bubba about it, like, especially in the middle of the race when we were leading. And I'm like, you're better off just running one lane because if you go, try to block and you get stuck in the middle, now you're going backwards. So, you know, if you stay on the bottom, yeah, you might lose the lead, but you're still going to be in the top five. But if you go to miss a block. block you end up in the middle your last car in line, your 20th.

So, I mean, I'm sure you guys, I'm assuming you guys seem the same thing I've seen, but it was tough. Yeah, it's definitely a lot harder now for sure. You can't, it's really hard, like you said, if you throw a block and miss, you're getting split. And split is a bad thing. So you are, if they do get a run, they're going to,

like, we had it happen a few times. Like, let them have, their bottom ends come. We just stayed in our lane. And, you know, three quarters of a lap later, we were back in a lead again. We could have went down and try to block it, but man, you're really asking for, you're really asking to get shipped back.

As soon as somebody gets an opportunity, they're going to ship somebody good up front if they can. Like, you don't, like, if somebody's good up there, if the opportunity comes up to send them to the back, they're going to do it. So definitely way harder to control. I really like the Xunity drafting package. You can get runs, but you can also, you can also manipulate the runs a little bit more from what I could tell,

watching the race. I watched that whole Xfinney race him. I feel like you could manipulate a lot more with the package. But, man, this is, you just can't, you just can't, like, control it, man. We controlled it a little bit from the top side near the end there. I thought we had pretty good, we had decent control of the race because we had teammates behind us and you feel that's the only way, that's the only way I really felt safe there is we had teammates behind us.

At least I knew we would probably race to the checker flag with them if it came down to it. You know, I wasn't really worried about them slipping us or something like. that but man what a I mean just look at the look at the top ten it's just one of them races man like oh whoa and there's nobody left exactly so uh and you know I'm sure we'll get to it but all the you know you went here you're out so I got blew up on Twitter last night like I'm sure you guys did it I think it was in response to the BBC post that we have to give credit to Quinn Huff because he beat all our asses yesterday dude DBC fans went after you guys last night on Twitter. For many people that listen all the time, the moment that checkered flag flew

went after you guys. Wasn't just TJ this week. It doesn't matter. I mean, you can, we're all racing. This package puts everybody so tight and you have to try to help the guy. If you can break the plane, if you can break the bubble with the guy in front of you, you can get there and push him, it is a huge advantage to your lane. And you're trying to do that constantly, but you're also trying, if you're third, fourth, in line, you're trying to help that guy get to the next guy so it can pull your lane a little faster. This is not this style of race, and you're going to have accidents. You're going to have accidents like Clint trying to push.

It's just how it is. I mean, if he doesn't help Jimmy right there, that lane's falling back. And we don't want to go that way. We want to go forward. So he's doing everything he can do to get there and help that lane just like off a turn too. You know, we're pushing Bowman. And I don't know. I don't know.

Are we talking about that later, Jason? Yeah, we're talking about all your days. Okay, well, you know, we're spotting out the front wind show more than we are at the back half the time now because you're trying to get that guy to the next guy to try to help. And that's what this package creates at. Yeah, I get a lot of joy out of blocking people on Twitter, especially after a shit day. You have a field day yesterday. See, I don't block on Twitter.

I just block on race track. We're aware of that. NASCAR's now aware of that. Congratulations for alarming them and alerting them to your ways. But so Jimmy after the race, he sent out a tweet that said, sure, it's place rate. Damn, you blocked him now? No. Let me tell my story.

This is my story. We're not going to let the truth get in a good way of it. He sent out of a tweet and he said, sure, this is plate racing, dot, dot, dot, but that was stupid. So I click on it. And everybody that's bashing Clint, I just block them. And half, I mean, like most of them follow. On Jimmy's tweet. On Jimmy's tweet.

He's a serial blocker. He'll find anything. I mean, like, you'll find somebody. Yeah, Clint's, Clint shouldn't even be out there. Clint's wrecked you three times this year. Or go wrecked Clint next week. I'm like, block. Block.

Block. And then people, I don't know. Well, I got blocked. You got blocked because you were talking about my driver. That's why he got blocked. There's people still blocked to this day from that Ryan Priest, Elliot Sadler deal, I think. Oh, yeah.

Those are my people. You don't, I'm from Paisal and we stick together. Fred, you get to talk about Ryan Priest on a little bit. So, Brad, I just, uh, my boy, priest. I just Googled social. immediate anger issues and there's some decent websites it looks like where you can get you some help

free therapy I think there's some decent websites here actually I don't even I don't block people because I don't want them to even have the sad ex fashion that I even acknowledge their presence so I just let them go and they can talk all they want I just ignore them I just don't even stroll it anymore because then when you block them they say it's a post a screenshot oh Freddy blocked me I'm like no I don't really give

what you got going on we could get pushed by the nine across the start finish line to the wind and we still did something wrong. You backed into them. We did something wrong. So I quit reading it because people here's a reply. Boyer's interview was the biggest crock of I've heard in a long time. Block. Block. Here's another one. Clint's just mad that he's not the goat that you are. Get him back before the season is over, champ. Block. Block. He's gone. And you're gone. Look, just that quick. Never see anything that this guy tweets again. See, I feel good about that. You guys don't feel good when you do something like that. I don't even take the time to click block. I don't even take the time to

read it, be honest. And then here's another fan. Jimmy, that reg was your fault. Brett's follow. What's their name? Does Brett just follow them? I just clicked the little heart button. Heart, heart, heart, heart.

Retweet. But like, I love going on threads, no matter whose it is. You know, Donald Trump, hey, I tested positive coronavirus. One of them is get well soon and next one is, I hope he died. And it's like, what's wrong with you people? See, but I'll block them people too. I saw you. I'm like, they're mean.

They get off my time on. I saw you have now created a. A Reddit account. I did. I went on Reddit one night. I was bored. Look, I'm living in a hotel right now, people. And I was laying in my hotel room.

Everybody's sleeping. I'm bored of death. And I saw something where T.J. and I were joking around last week about how many road courses were on the schedule, which we got right, by the way, at six. Hats off to us. We teased that there was a street course in Nashville, which was a tease on purpose.

We didn't say it was going to happen. And Tijay said, where would you spot from at this sixth road course? And I was like, well, I wish Tutsis. And so next thing you know, I've got people saying that Titties is a strip club in Miami. So the next thing, you know, I'm on Reddit. I'm like, man, I like this community. They're talking about things I like.

Yeah, they don't like you so much sometimes. I'll just let you know that. You weren't talking about it. I thought you were talking about the Miami Street course. I mean, I don't know if you can block people on Reddit. I got you, we'll have to figure that out for you. Look, I already forgot how to get on Reddit. You know me at technology.

You don't go great sometimes. I mean, I'm the idiot that still keeps a checkbook in their car. And then when their car gets broken, into, they take your checkbook. Yeah, that's me. That happened last week. So, yeah. Chris Rice was like, you still have a checkbook? I'm like, yeah, in my car like I have. I told somebody that story. They're like, dude, I don't know if these checkbooks anymore. I don't, I don't have any idea where my checkbook is. Oh, here's one for you, T.J. It makes you feel any better. I've never been issued a checkbook. On Jimmy Johnson's thread, bing about Clint, it says the 22 needs to

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Now you're getting MJ money, though, so you can buy wherever else you want. Once we get that deal finalized, we'll be fine. Oh, wait. I heard Danny's cutting his house in half and you're getting one half. I'm actually getting a wing, yeah. Yeah. The game, when Denny built that place, the game E and Mega wanted to play was we were going to move in and see how long it took them to find us.

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Sell your way to do. at offerpad.com. Spot on, spot off. He's spot off. He's spot off. Spot on you like it. Spot off, you don't like it, and you say one either way. All right, there's a lot to talk about when it comes to spot on, spot off. And according to Twitter, everyone was very excited about this segment this week. So to start off the spot on spot off segment, NASCAR does not penalize race winner

Denny Hamlin for going below the yellow line intern for on the final lap. Brett, you get to start that one. you know I don't know how we manage this situation any differently because for every rule that we make up is a rule that we have to enforce

and the rules are abundant these days across the board in terms of what can happen before the cars even get on the track and then obviously the officiating of the race and this particular one NASCAR decided not to penalize Danny Hamlin for going below the yellow line on the last lap because they said it was him missing a wreck. But there was another tweet that was sent out a couple years ago that said you cannot go below the

yellow line to improve your position. Did Denny go below the yellow line and improve his position? Exponentially. So for me, this is an easy fix. when you take the white flag, I don't care if you go through the grass to make a pass, it counts. Come back how you come back. Now look, they're trying to put this yellow line thing in place, not so that they have to get involved. It's for safety reasons.

They're trying to make it where we're not wrecking. Well, guess what? We're still going to wreck. I don't care if it's the last lap or the, look, the first lap we saw a freaking wreck with a couple, three cars in it, right? So, I mean, I get what you're trying to do here. So do it for 187 laps. but once we take the white, all bets are off, come back however you so choose. These guys are grown-ass men who get paid, well, most of them get paid a lot of money.

They don't all get paid a lot of money, but they got a job to do. And the yellow line thing, it's just, I want the conversation today to be about who won the race. I want the conversation today to be about who finished second, because that was a photo finish, and it's not. It's about a stupid yellow line rule with one to go. It's not a stupid yellow line rule until it's one to go. but because of that rule that's all we're hearing about today and and that's that shouldn't be what we're talking about t j oh man i saw way um i don't know i saw a move very similar to this

with regan smith i bet regan smith is still angry to this day about the call that day um because to me he really was already there um i don't think denny had position on him i think danny had a good run but he didn't want to lift he wanted to win the race and he went down there to advance this position. This is my opinion. Looking at a replay. I watched it kind of as it happened, but you have to go back. There's so much, there was so much stuff going on in that corner right then. It was hard to focus on one thing. I don't know, man. You know, a guy, we're raised in position. You know, Chase gets big. I don't really blame the Matt thing on the back stretch. I think we just made a mistake. I don't, I think Joey got crossed up a little bit and came down and forced Matt. And, you know,

I get that. Not too upset at that. Whatever it is what it is. But the last deal there when Chase jumped inside of us, he might have went, I mean, half a tire was on the line. I mean, you can't really go below the line, exit of four years banking. I mean, you'll start spinning out. And as soon as he got there, we basically moved back up.

But, I mean, we're just trying to slow his momentum down. It's not like we knocked him three car lengths down there, like where Denny did or something like that. but I don't know there I kind of agree with the last lap mean you got to let them race um... Dany finished first Matt Dibandetto finished second

Matt Dibbitt... Matt Dibb's gonna be disappointed D. Benadetto Speaking of that, I just wonder before we congratulations Kip Childer's leading the most laps yesterday. I'm not sure what the bonus was for that but just he did.

Congrats to him. Congrats to Chip. Chip. Chip. You are not kidding. I've had a rough two weeks, Freddie. But, but, but TJ like, who finished first. Denny Hamlin. Did he go below the yellow line? Yep. Matt Dimendetto, he finished

second. Did he force somebody below the yellow line? Yep. Okay. Just take away the yellow line rule one to go. Look, I want the yellow line rule in place until then for one reason, because I want to see as many cars finish as we possibly can have finished. And Freddie, if we take that line and rule away, this is happening on lap five potentially. And then we're tearing up 30 cars and there's only eight people riding around out there. Yeah, I mean, I'm spot on. I thought it was a great move by Danny. I think everything Denny does is perfect. You shut up. You're bought off. He's bought off, T.J. I think there was a great move. Whatever he does, I believe, is I agree with this week. I don't know. Once I signed a contract, I might be able to start arguing with him a little bit, but no. I mean,

so do you think he had position before the 17 came down? Not to mention the 17 was being forced by the 20 as well. No, like Brett said, and like he's got to run, and he's got nothing to lose. is what you got to remember about Denny. He's proud, you know, I mean, if he wrecks at that point, there's not enough cards left to really hurt him. He's got enough bonus points where he's going to get in the next round, you know. So he's got done to lose. So you know what?

If I'm him, why not go down there? That's my only shot to win the race. If I stop behind the 17, I'm not, I got no shot. I just give up my whole chance to win the race. So you know what? I'm going to go down there. I'm going to force NASCAR to make a call. And, you know, the one thing I maybe don't, I mean, I didn't,

I only saw one replay on Doug's phone last night. but I mean I didn't notice a very big rush by him to get back on the racetrack once he got down there. Yeah, he stayed down there for a long time. Like he got forced down there and just kept going. And they just kept going. Like there was no attempt to get back onto the racetrack. There was an attempt later, but it wasn't like, oh, I'm not supposed to be down here. I need to get back up.

It was like, he just wrote it out. How do you force somebody below the line that's not there? Well, you know, same thing with, you know, Chase kind of, we had a big run on Chase down the run. I forget he got split off to the middle. And we weren't there yet, but we were coming with the head of steam. And he started to move down. And we went below the line. We got back in line behind them. Or we ended up, I forget how it worked out. But like, we weren't there yet, but we moved down below the line because if not, we were going to run them over. So I'm assuming it's kind of a similar situation. So why wasn't, why wasn't any black flag? I don't know. They were probably busy watching

because it was right after you did. So I was probably busy watching you. I mean, I'm just, that's similar. That had to be the same thing to us in turn four there. Yeah. I mean, I thought he should have got. I was worried we were going to get a penalty. And I thought if I was like, they literally, it was like two laps after you got the one with the 21. It was at the end of the stage. It was the coming to the end of the second stage. Gotcha. And, and I was like, ooh, like, I hope we don't get a penalty for that because we dip, left side to under the line, got back. And we were underneath chase then. And we went by and past them. But we like, we didn't, we were completing the pass, you know, as we go through one and two. But like, I don't know, I don't know what to do. You know, like, like you said, the rule has to be in effect because it's a safety measure.

So now I think, in my opinion, the judgment call should be on the block. If you go below the yellow line, that's as low as he gets. If you go below the yellow line, I think it's a penalty. You know, if you're going to call the penalty, you got a call. That's as low as they got. Yeah. I saw that one live. Was that bad?

I mean, it's below the line. But, TJ's- They penalize you based on history, T.J. TJ's walking around. T.J.'s walking around showing data. With the screenshot. Look at my data. See, Joey's turning right right there.

I don't know. You know, what do you do? Like, I think if you want to enforce this penalty, if you go below the line, you're penalized. No matter what, you're penalized. And then we're going to make a judgment call on the other guy if he gets penalized because he forced you. I think if you're going to enforce this rule all the time, I think that's the only way you do it. Like if you're down there because now it's going to stop. If you know, no matter what that guy does, if I go below this line, I'm penalized, you're not going to go down there.

You know what I mean? You're actually going to go to the yellow line, and then when you're forced below it, you're not going to turn. You're not going to wreck. You're going to wreck. Yeah. But I'm just saying if we're going to enforce this rule, I think the way to enforce it is if you're below the line, you're penalized. No matter if you got forced down there, not whatever. It's out of bounds.

You're out of bounds. You're penalized. Now we could also penalize this other guy for forcing you down there if it's in our judgment if he did or not. But no matter what, you go below the line, you're out. So what about one to go? I mean, I'm all for taking away with one to go, but you're going to have the same thing. it's going to be big wreck, you know, because you're racing down and driving anyway. We're going to wreck anyway.

We're going to block into the grass. I mean, it's going to be a wreck, no matter what. But this just takes out the gray area. Yeah, I mean, all you're looking to do is get consistency. You don't want, you do not, the last thing you want to do is, you want it to be black and white. You don't want a judgment call. I mean, it changed. I was in the car getting ready to leave.

I get to my car, 21 and 9 are disqualified for blocking. I get on the plane, the 9's back in, the 17 is disqualified now. Like, it's got to be black and white. He got disqualified, right? No, he got it back. He got, they protested after the race and he got his spot back. And I don't recall that ever happening. Never.

I don't recall that ever happening. We lost a race with Elliot Sadler. I was texting him last night about it and exfinity race at Indy because the guy leading, Sam Hornish, spun his tires, the guy behind him hit him, picked his rear tires up, and they black flagged Elliot for jumping the restart, which he did not do. We protested it. They basically told us to piss off. And that was a legitimate we got screwed.

And then yesterday, it's, you're out, you're in. Oh, wait a minute, we're flipping it. Like, now we're using instant replay after races. So if that's the case, I didn't see that memo come across. And look, that's an important memo, right? Or if they're going to take all that to discretion. So just with one to go, I don't care where we're at. I don't care for racing at Martinsville.

At one to go, there's no freaking rules. Wherever you get back to start finish is where you finish. I am good with it. I didn't know they gave it back. Yeah. I just... How do you do that? I guess, I don't know. Wait, they gave what back?

They gave Chase his spot back and penalized the 17. Well, I don't say it. Why give it to him in the first place? Obviously, you thought it was bad enough in the first place to give it to him. I don't know. That's okay. Where was Chase at? Was he outside the 17? I would have to go look again. I don't remember where he was, because I literally watched one replay last night at a bar.

I'm going to try to find a replay in front of me, so I wasn't paying a lot of attention. when you when you go back though and watch the footage the 21 car wholly had his hands full look i heard numerous drivers yesterday talking about the Toyota's roof flaps and the 20 was a rocket ship and that was who was behind the 21 and he was making moves and all kind of stuff's going on and like you watch the 21 run them guys high here comes byron on the bottom he runs he gets back late on that block unfortunately but man that's a long ways he's got to come across five freaking lanes to get back to the bottom and make that block on Byron.

That obviously triggered Byron being forced below the yellow line and Denny driving by and just all hell broke loose. But man, the 21 had his hands full in that last stop. So when did Chase get Black Flight for? I don't know. Was that the last green-white checker? I think it was the 11. Actually, you see, like, keep watching that as they go on the tri-oval,

Chase dips below the line under the 17. Jason was out. Jason was riding with Chase. Jason was on in-car, yeah. So it's coming to the checker flag here. All right. So we're into three. There's Denny just making the track really short.

Then watch Chase going into the trial. All right. 17. Oh, no, dude. He wasn't there. How? You black. I don't know.

Did the nine choose to go below the yellow line T.J. Or was he forced? Make a call right here. I mean, I honestly feel like he was forced right there. I do. that was really similar to Regan Smith, and I feel like Regan, he saved from spinning the 17, in my opinion.

So then the penalty was, maybe the original penalty, I guess, was he went below the line, not that he forced somebody, and then they changed it to say the 17 forced him. Yeah, I definitely think this, I definitely think he turns the 17 if 17 comes down anymore.

So let me ask you this. But again, we're having to talk about this because we all line rule. Yeah, I mean, there's room there, and they're both kind of going for it, and I think he hooks the 17 if they keep going. So the, So the 17 got a penalty for running the 9 below the line, right?

Yep. Yeah, he's going to hook him. And the 21 got a penalty for run in the 24 below the line, right? Who ran the 11 below the line? They said he went below the line to miss a crash. To miss a wreck? That was the reasoning for allowing that to continue. Gotcha.

And then he was about a car length and a half behind the 24 when the 21 and 24 made contact. But here's where racing gets complicated. The 21 coming out of four is disqualified. Forget the fact that he's going to go on to finish second. He's disqualified, but his car is still there. It's still in the race. It's still impacting the draft. He is going to do everything he can to do as well as he can.

He's going to have somebody behind him pushing him. They're going to be three wide trying to pass him. It's not like he just disappears from the track, even though he's disqualified. So like that's where I'm saying, just let him race, man. Get back where you get back. All right. Well, we covered a lot of that there. The next one, though.

Matt de Benedetto, that's how you say that, by the way. Brett, de Benedetto. Just recorded in my voice. Yeah. Play it back. Just drop the voice levels a little while. Penalized for forcing the 24 down below the yellow line. On the last lap goes from P2 to P21.

Freddie, we can start off where you left off. I mean, spot on for the penalty, obviously. I mean, the guy's doing what he's got to do. Like Brett talked about, you know, he went up. He had a block to top. He had a lot of shit going on in three and four. there. He's got to pull all the way to the wall to block the top. Then the 24's got to run to the bottom. So now he's got to, you know, Doug's trying to block everything he can up there, telling

him where they're at. So they go to the bottom. But, I mean, the 24's there. And but to Matt, it doesn't matter because second might as well be 50th to Matt. You know what I mean? Your only shot to win the race is try to go down there and block the shit out of the 24, stall them out as hard you can, force them below the line. Again, make NASCAR make a call. You know, if they don't make a call on 24 there. I mean, 21, he missed by a bumper to Danny, he was under the line. So, you know, I don't know. You got to make that block. You got to do

everything you can because you're racing for a win. Second place doesn't mean anything to Matt de Benedetto right there. You know, you're doing every possible thing you can do to win that race and, you know, he run the 24 below the line and deserved a penalty for it. Damn it. I almost had it right there. Matt

D. Benedetto. If I look at it, I can say it. I'm going to get you a little phonetics board. This guy's not racing. to win Talladega. This guy is racing for his livelihood. If he wins this race, there's a chance that John Menard makes a phone call that says, keep this guy in my car. And there's a chance that Ford rallies behind him and says, keep this guy in the car. Yes, we know his contract has expired. But that doesn't mean he can't still get a new contract. It happens all the time. I've been a part of those situations where it happens. We think that it's either Cendrick in that car or Matt. If Matt wins

that race, he makes it pretty dang hard for Penske to announce this week that he's been let go. And it also obviously helps his stock in the sport to win the race. So I don't know him personally. A good friend of mine spots for him. He thinks highly of him. A lot of people on Twitter seem to really rally behind this guy and the emotions that he shows. And again, I'm just spot on for everything that transpired there to create an entertaining finish. And that's what I want the story to be about. I want it to be about Matt D. Benedetto, almost winning his first ever cup race, finishing second. What a heartbreaking loss. And by the way, are you going to have a job next year? I mean, it could have been large. It could have won the race and then got the penalty. I mean,

that would have been even, that would have been a bigger, I feel bad for the guy. I mean, I don't know. You know, I've seen this outcry yesterday about, you know, how could they ever let him go? you know, he's done such a good job this year. And I like Matt a lot. Like, great guy. The guy genuinely loves racing. We talked about Doug spotting for him. There's been a couple times where we've landed on a plane and went and got breakfast

and Matt's come with us. And all the guy wants to do is talk about racing. You know, had Bubba do last week, had it go. I mean, generally a great guy. But when you look, aside from the plate race yesterday and pitch strategy a couple weeks ago, he's had a generally average season. I mean, he's got eight top tens in that 21 car, which is super. good equipment.

You know, like I said, I really liked the guy, and I want to see him do well. But you were given a year to perform, and I don't know that three top fives and eight top tens and 31 races is getting it done. Yeah, I think Matt drove the wheels off of it yesterday. He was a great teammate. He was right there. We all worked good together. He is a great dude, too.

I've been out, I've been to breakfast with him and stuff many times. Really good dude. He must like to eat breakfast. Dude, this kid. It's a big boy, man. Yeah, dude. He probably burns 7,000 calories a day. probably eats about 14.

No one has got all them muscles. Yeah, he'd whoop you. I wouldn't go that far. But, you know, oh, yeah. I'll say, though, Matt, like, man, it's the last lap, man. Just let us race.

You're going to give us this package where we can get these runs and do things. Let them race, man. Let's race it. I think Matt did a great job. But like you said, he's going for the win, man. He's doing everything he has.

Just like he's doing nothing different than what Clint would do or Bubba would do or Joey would do up front. You want to win the race. I don't want you to win, so I'm going to try. And I'm not saying it needs to wreck you. This is a similar situation that I can put like Ross in next year, where you had a year. And you had a year to make it happen. And Ross is going to have a year next year to make it happen.

And if you have an average season, you can't be shocked if you get replaced by somebody that maybe has more money. You got to look, I guarantee you, when this schedule came out, and there was six road courses on it, Austin Syngrick became a lot more attractive to put in that 21 car just for the fact of how good he is on road courses. That's now six opportunities he can go out and maybe win a cup race next year. Five of them were before the playoffs.

So now this could be an automatic bid to the playoffs if he can win a race in one of these five road courses. So, you know, I feel bad for Matt, but again, he had the opportunity to make it happen this year. And I'm not going to say he had a bad year, but he could have had a better year, I think. Yeah, I think it, to me there's more things that matter. Like, I've always saw a guy, and he's, two complete years of vicinity and good equipment.

Winning race is getting his confidence way before you go to the Cup Series. Because going to the Cup Series is very humbling, I would say, coming from the Xfinity Series. It can be a very humbling experience because those guys are pretty good, man. It's hard. The Cup Series is very difficult. We've seen guys from other series, stars from other series. We've had a Formula One Star coming on a truck race.

Could barely get around Charlotte, you know? So it's a, this is not an easy thing to do. But, you know, we've got a new car coming out after next year. So do you bring a rookie in, put him in this car for a year, or do you start him with a new car where he doesn't have to learn to bat, you know, if he learns bad habits in this car that transfer the other car, or do you let him run another year and win five, seven races in Exfinity, possibly another championship before he steps up.

I don't know what the answer is or what, you know, but to me, well, to me, I want that guy coming out of the Xvenile series with the most confidence he can have, And if it's a new car, I'd rather him come in and start from the beginning rather than... There's influencers in this decision-making process. And one of the main influencers is the president of Penske Racing, whose name is what, T.J.? I forgot. Tim Sindrick.

He has the same last name as his son, Austin Cendrick. But ultimately, the decision is made, in my opinion, Freddie, by two guys. Roger Penske and John Menard. With Paul Menard being a heavy influencer to John. who handpicked Matt to get this car to start with. Yeah. I think Austin's done a great job turning the corner this year and just he's grown. I think he's done a great job coming around in the Xenia series.

I agree with you 100% and I think next year that you could go out there and want to race in that car. Me? Yeah. Sweet. I think Hannah could probably go run fifth because. Thank you. Because she falls out of the seat. It's a long run.

race. I'll take it. I'll take it fifth. I'll be a side. That's a fast car. Yeah. I just think he's running he's running very smart. He's running very smart. He's improved. He's improved. He's doing what he's supposed to do in a very fast car, which is win races. Yeah. Well, to continue the penalty talk, TJ will start this one off. Joey Lagano was penalized twice for forcing another car below the the yellow line. Shucker. Weird. Don't really agree with the second one. I mean, Game is lane. He went on bias and kept digging. I mean, he went down six inches below the line and didn't even really have to. I mean, we could have been a lot. We could have been tighter, but the backstretched one, look, man, I get it. I'm not sure. I'm not sure if we just made a mistake. I'm not, you know, we knocked Matt down there a little bit. I don't know if we got hooked or hit a little bit or something. I haven't went back and looked at it. But, you know, if that's the case. If that's the case, then we got a penalty for it. We served it. Whatever. I mean, it is what it is. I mean, it is what it is. The second one, like, Like I said, I don't, we're racing to the white flag. We're coming, I mean, we're coming back around.

I mean, we're racing for the win. I don't want to go to this roval and have to point my way in. I want to win Talladega, you know, and, and just, I don't think it was a deal where we went, like, nope, you're not going down there. I mean, as soon as Joey knew he was there, for sure, he came. I mean, you saw the pitcher, but I don't really feel like that was a, you know, look, I'm knocking you below here. because obviously if we keep coming down we're going to wreck joey goes right back up but here's what it is so on to the roval i think this is our fault we'd talk about this every week and we might have painted a target on tj for naskar god lord the only and then like after it it was

like i heard you the first time that you said it and then they said it like seven times after that on radio what did they say i wasn't listening i was in my they just kept saying i text brad immediately did you not hear it like a bunch of times yeah like yeah like i I got you. I'm sitting next to the official. I told Bobba. I said 22 is getting a penalty, but he doesn't have to serve it because there was what, the first one was long of like a laparitude to go to stage.

We were getting ready to pit and then they're like, well, he'll start at the end of the next. I'm like, okay, we'll just stay out there then. What are we going to pit for? So just get out of the draft and to get back in case they wreck. But they, even after that, under yellow was like, 22, it was like four times under yellow. I'm like, I get it. So they told you to serve a penalty and then they didn't make you? No.

Well, it was a, yeah, they. Yeah. going a stage or something, two to go? Well, we were coming, we were coming a two to go. It was actually a three to go, three to go. And then we were going to pit, and they're like, they did give us a penalty. They said it's a drive-through penalty. So I'm like, hey, we got to do a drive-through.

I told them right away. And then they're like, 22 will also start at the tail at the end of that. So I'm like, well, do we have to pit or not at that point? If we've got a penalty at the end, why do we have to pit now? Which was wrong, I think. You know, I think it's one of the other, which, I think they were probably, like I was, I think they were anticipating the fact that you were just going to stay out there

because I was like, you got three laps of server penalty. The penalty happened before the pit road was closed and all that. The penalty happened before anything was locked down. I could have served my penalty, like they said, and been eligible to gain a few spots on pit road when we pit it with everybody. So, but instead we got, we got penalized twice, kind of. Yeah, I wasn't sure. I wasn't sure if the pit road was open.

I couldn't, I thought it was two to go in the street. stage, but I can be wrong. We got the penalty with three to go because we were going to pit the first time. Well, they told us to pit. Yeah, well, that should have been, yeah, they said, they said you drive through penalty. So, I mean, if the penalty happens, this might be something, I don't know if it's in the rule book or not, this might be something, if you, if you acquire a penalty before the pit road is closed, like if it's with three to go before pit road is locked, should you be allowed to serve it still before the, I think you should.

I mean, if you acquire the. penalty before the pit road's locked. Yeah. You should be able to drive through and that's your penalty. You should be able to drive through because that's what you would have got during that stage. I mean, I get it if you do it after pit road's closed, I get it. Then it's locked. But if you acquire the penalty before it's closed,

you should be able to serve your penalty and be on the same page there. I think that was a mistake on their part. Oh, well, it is what it is. Go to the next one. Well, on to the next one. Bubba Wallace wrecks twice after contact.

with Ryan Priest. Freddie. What happened? Your buddies? My buddy, Priest. Damn it. What happened off of two? Dude, Priest was up there.

So we missed a block on you guys when you went down to the bottom. So I told, as soon as I realized we were going to miss a block, I told we got to find 37. So we go back up. We get to 37. He squares up with us and starts pushing. But, you know, it just turned us off of two. Like he's pushing, I mean, which he's supposed to do.

Ryan Priest did nothing wrong. You know, he's squared us up and he's going to push the hell out of us, try to get us back up, because you guys had all the momentum on the bottom. We're just trying to kind of... You would have been okay. Yeah, we would have got to go. Yeah, and got the top rolling again. But, you know, Ryan had a lot of damage on his nose.

We had a bunch of damage on our bumper, so I don't know if that's what contributed to it. But he just got on our bumper and just, as soon as we got off of two, it just launched us to the right and turned Bubba sideways. But, you know, he didn't do nothing wrong there. Somebody sent me a picture of a tweet that was blaming, said, we wrecked you.

That's how bad it is. I agree with that. Yeah. We have somebody sent me a video of after the wreck on the front stretch when you wrecked to the 48. I didn't wreck him. Where somebody said something about, was that 22, like 22 did that or something like that? Did you hear that, Jason? Nah, I don't recall.

It sounded like Kurt. You 1,000%. Oh, Kurt. Yes, Kurt did say, I bet the 22 started that. Thanks. And you started that one on the 10 car down the backstretched, too. That 10, if that 10s, he's a 22 in his mirror at a plate race again, he's pulling off the racetrack. Daytona, he got them.

Ten was the one in the middle last time. I don't know. You can't move. You can't switch lanes. I think the 88 switch lanes because he thought he was getting a good drive through the back of the Tens rear bumper. Yeah. No, the 10 started moving down.

Then the 88 went to go to the outside. I thought the 88 just took the right. You might want to look at the data on that one. I looked at the head-on shot, man. Well, they showed Eric Sincarn. He turns left. His hands were trying to get the hell out of the way because you were beginning to crammed 88 up his ass.

He should have went more. But priests, now, So he didn't do nothing wrong the first time. And then the second time we got a hell of a run. We went up. I pissed Josh off. Josh had a big run down the backstretch. And we moved up to get him to shove us out there.

And he's like, I was real late. I was like, yeah, well, I know that wasn't good for you, but it was pretty good for me. But then we come down on, we crowded. I think, like at the same time I told Bubba we were four, like somebody poked the bottom and made it four wide. And as I told Bubba we were four wide, he kind of came down a little bit. And we just turned across the nose of the 37 and got ourselves wreck. So what priest texts you at 6 o'clock this morning? Oh, I texted.

him a bunch of stuff last night because I was talking trash. I said, man, you better be careful. There's people on Twitter that are going to kick your ass. He's a guy, Scott Tapley, a buddy of mine, runs his social stuff. Yeah. And he said, he said, I know you get booed every week, but I promise you, you got a lot of fans. He said, I'm trying to, I'm trying to put the fires out over here. I feel bad for Ryan.

Yeah, I mean, I should call Ryan and get him on speaker phone. Hey, what's up, man? Why are you Rick? Bobba. I hope he's sleeping. I mean, he texts me at 6 o'clock this morning, I think he's working on his modified or something. Jeez. Oh, man.

Yeah, I mean, so, God. Ryan, you know, he didn't do nothing wrong to us yesterday. He was trying to get us rolling again up top, and then we wrecked ourselves at the end there. But it wasn't, yeah, nothing Ryan could do wrong. Geez, Freddy, you messed up. You really screwed up over there the last couple laps. I told him that on the radio.

I've got to tell you all this. Oh, man. And listen, we're going to have to do a full-blown logo unveil. Oh, no. Freddie Kraft. There's a few guys on the roof who put stickers on their radios to identify that it's their radios and have their own little brand. It's kind of cool how someone will do it right. So Freddie has designed a new logo for his 2021 situation.

Now, obviously the situation... Please hang on. Please tell me it's a picture of... I'm picturing the Air Jordan, but it being a chubby guy and it's Freddie. TJ, you're a genius. Is that right? It is a fat Air Jordan. Yes.

And it is quite the logo. Dude, that's awesome. Do you have a picture of this, Freddie? I can not, I don't want to jeeks him. I want to wait until his contract is signed. But look at this guy. Oh my gosh. We have a chubby, we have a pregnant-air Jordan.

We can't play that yet, Dillonerner. Dude, I knew it. That was the thought in my head. I'm like, I hope that's what it is. I told Bubba. I said that to Bubba. I said, listen, we're going to have the contract negotiate this into my contract. You know what you need to do?

We need to, like, print off like, 400. than things. Do you know how many people are going to go online and see any pregnant Air Jordans now? I'm going to save my spot. I told Bobby that's not a basketball. We got to chicken nugget. Can we get a card magnet? Can we get a car magnet?

Can we get a car magnet, decay, all that and stuff? We need to go through Target parking. I just stick little stickers on cars and stuff. See how many cars we can get in Mooresville. You'll pull up to a red light. Oh, what are you going to call it? I don't know. What do you can, because it's not really.

It can't be air. It's not really air, Freddie. What do you call? Heavy Jordan? Yeah. Heavy Jordan. Ground Freddy? I don't know.

I mean, ballet, ballerina Freddie. There's got to be a good term for that, and it's not Air Jordan. I thought y'all would get a kick out of this. And those of you listening, Freddie will hopefully one day share it with you publicly. It's going to be your profile picture on Twitter. Once we can work some deals out over there, we'll figure out. I mean, Michael's going to have to pay you a lot of money for that. Yeah, absolutely.

I mean, because that's going to sell big. Yeah, that'd be a T-shirts. As in if you could touch the rim. That's going to be in foot locker. Which I know that's not. I could touch the rim. You got a five-foot rim. Barbecue sauce.

Yeah. I'm telling you, that's not a basketball. I'm trying to explain to you that Oh, boy. Holy cow. Okay. I knew you'd like that. That's perfect, man.

That's the first image I had in my head was Freddie going through the air. Not really. Or lack thereof, yeah. Wow. I got a three-inch rope. Can you jump rope? Depends on how thick the rope is. I think that needs to be the next video.

We'd have Freddie try and jump rope over here. You know, when they went outside for gym class. When they saw the hurdles, Freddie said, nope, I don't feel good. I go to the nurse's office. I'm pretty athletic for a fat guy. I'll give myself a little bit of great. You ever do a hurdle? A hurdle?

Yeah. Yeah. I've hurtled some bar stools or something that they fell over or Brett when he tripped or something. Yeah. Oh, my gosh. Wow. Okay. We're racing at the Charlotte Roval this weekend.

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That's the stupidest thing I've seen in my career. Brett. Block. Block. I recall running second at Tallah. with Elliott Sadler in the Eminem's car, and we were in between turns one and two, and we got wrecked by a guy named Jimmy Johnson. This was in 1994.

I know. And Kelly Arbor won. You know, Clint was in a pretty good spot, and we were pulling the top line, and we had all Penske cars behind us. The 22 was actually the first car right behind us. us and we went into turn one and i don't know what happened but jimmy shot up the racetrack and i don't know what happened with clint but for some reason he shot up the racetrack with him and he left the middle open and tj filled the middle as did all the other penske cars and we went from

probably about fifth on the track again second in line on top to the freaking back and at that point it was obvious clint was in get points mode and he was racing and hard, you know, and you're trying to balance all these things. Before we came to that last restart, the green flag, the crew chief said, hey, we're 18 points out. And in Clint's mind, that was a lot. And so he's trying to make up points, and he's doing what we talked about earlier on this show. The way that you go somewhere is you push, push, push, push, push, push, you know, and if you get in front, the way that you keep going is to have somebody behind you, push, push, push, push, push. clearly there was no intent to wreck Jimmy Johnson.

That does none of us any good. Clint was trying his hardest, clearly made contact with Jimmy, and then people are like, well, he had them sideways wanting to get off of him. That's not really the way this works sometimes when you've got people up your butt pushing you too. You can't just lift because then you get run over. So obviously this whole situation is spot off for the 14 team because we're in a must-win situation at the Roval. So, you know, I understand why Jimmy's upset, dumbest thing he's ever seen his career.

He should come stand on the roof sometime. I'm going to need to see the data on this, Brett. I need to see your throttle trace here because if you don't come off that throttle, it's wide. You are a wrecker. Man. I talk trash about Brett on the radio during that red flag because I said, Brett was, Brett had his packed up.

I'm pretty sure before they stopped wrecking. And he was walking by me. I said, way to go. He starts bit, 48 guys. Dude. so we're in line on the top side this is pretty early in the race it's us the four and the 14 we're coming off turn forward i'm like the 14's peeking his nose out to the right of harvard like trying to get out i'm like oh he's like you don't do that unless you're thinking about it like

what is there all is a room is a room Clint wanted to get to the front win that race i mean we all do and we go down we couple laps go by and easton's noses are piquing out here and i'm you just know clint's kind of like yeah we get on into turn three and i see the bumpers cross and I'm like, oh, he's got him, he got him now. And he hung him out and the caution comes out. And I look down there and I see Brett going down to Timmy and I'm like, oh, this is going to be good. I couldn't wait to see what's going to happen there.

And I'm sitting there and I'm telling Joey, I'm like, yep, 14 and Forest Potter are having a conversation. I'll let you know if it gets a little animated here. Hold on caller. And, but yeah, no, I mean, we all want to win, man. I get it. You're racing. It's a racetrack.

I just, you know, we obviously hang out with Clint somewhat often, and he gives me a lot of shit because he says my guy does a lot of dumb stuff. And I felt like this was pretty dumb on Clint's part. You know, you've got three guys that you're racing for points already out of the race or at least got a bunch of damage. You know, Eric's out of the race, 18's got a bunch of damage, three's got a bunch of damage. You know. Dude, it's through the end of the race, man.

Clint's just trying to help. I mean, you're trying to get up there. It wasn't even the end of it. It was second stage. Stage points? Yeah, okay. That's a race for itself. So you're going to go up there and trade up.

You've given up, what did you finish? 34, 35th, probably something like that. I mean, there was 10 cars left for the end of this race. If you're just, if you're, if you're going to, you know, yeah, you can go up there race for stage points, but just shoving the 48 through the trial. I think Jimmy, I think Jimmy got, being in the middle right there. I think Jimmy got a little loose. And he about saved it once, then it wiggled even more.

And I think Clint was like trying to help, but trying to stay off. I mean, it's just a bad situation, man. If we'd have been able to get two more feet forward, we wouldn't have got wrecked. Like, we got clipped late. Like, once he turned him sideways and then obviously the 48 hit the one and the one blamed the 22. We almost got through it. And typically there, the guy who causes it, he does get through it. But that wasn't the case for us.

We got clipped by Kyle when the eight turned him. We weren't even a part of it. We don't talk about JTG a lot on this show. We do and we don't, right? We talk about Ryan Priest. But I got a lot of friends that work over there. can you imagine their fab department? They have torn up a lot of race cars this year.

And Brian Paddy's obviously a really smart guy, great, great crew chief. Ricky's a good plate racer. I mean, he's a couple wins there. But wow, like yesterday, the 47 wrecked, and I couldn't tell what caused it. I just saw him wrecked. And I was like, man, I hate that for all those guys.

You know what I noticed about, speaking about Priest again real quick, the dude finds his way to like near the front of the plate race, and then he gets up to the front, then he just doesn't know what to do, and then he gets back again. And it's like another 50 last. process again for him to get up there but he's he's good at finding his way into that top five you know

know it's all about experience really he struggles i've noticed yesterday he struggles to lead a line you know i mean it's not and he had damages he is a great yeah he's a great i'm gonna stay here i'm gonna stay right here and he slowly methodically works his way forward he finished shoot he finished top five in his first Daytona 500 yeah and he had a he had a run he was running good at this year's Daytona 500 i think him and ross got together and wrecked oh yeah got us too but you know But yeah, the 47, so we, the 47 had damaged that first freaking lap to 95 cuts of tire. We all get a little bit of a nose. 47, I saw Patty when we got to the airport yesterday, and he's like, I had a hole in the side of my nose.

The whole nose, he said. So he said, we were just trying to ride it out to the stage break. And then he said, I guess Ricky pulled to the top and was leading the top line, but wasn't going very fast because he had a hole in his nose. And 38 just jacked him up through the trial and wrecked them. But he did. I was like, ah. But yeah, lap three, that thing. And he's a damn.

We finished second there right by an inch, the first race there. So I hate to see that happening. Ricky there, as good as he is, a plate racing. But those are the brakes. All right. Next one here. NBC moved the race coverage from NBC to NBCSN with two laps to go for local news. But for context, though, we're in like what, our third or fourth overtime attempt.

I think this was the after the first one. Yeah, there was the second one. They were joking that any later, going to get bumped to Nickelodeon. So it was local news? Yeah, they bumped us for local news and put us on NBCSN. Which is obviously sponsored dollars. And we were, I mean, that race was long.

It was really long. I talked about Kip leading the most laps because I felt like he was out there all day driving around. What was it? So if we're losing races because of TV slot time. Should we start them earlier? Or just how about? Shorten the race.

Yeah. Shorten the race. I mean, the races on Saturday were great. And one was 95 laps, I think, and one was 113. Like, why do we need to run 188 laps? That truck race was perfect. I mean, I think them all 20 lapers. Let's be honest.

We could do a triple header in one day and only run one fuel run and put on a hell of a show. All right, green flag, 30 laps, go. Truck series. All right, after 45 minutes, you're done. See you later. All right, Exfinity Series. you start in 30 minutes. Boom, boom, boom.

It's like a Saturday night show. We could put on a hell of a show. We wouldn't have to bring pit crews. They could all just stay home. We wouldn't have to bring anybody, but two guys that pushed a car through tech, a crew chief, a spotter, and a driver, and let's just go put on a hell of a show.

I think you could run 150 laps there in the cup race, and it'd be plenty. I mean, you can run a hundred, I think. I mean, a hunter's only... I couldn't run a hundred yesterday. I could try. I'm to say, like, what is it? What is it?

What is it? What is it? Yeah, you probably do a little less than that. Daytona was 200 then 500 yeah it's a little shorter racetrack yeah I don't know you could definitely knock it's 2.5 miles instead of 2.66 we could knock off that segment

where we get up where we all ride by the wall for a little bit we have to run 12 more laps to make it 500 miles math wizard over there we'll see how he does in the questions good saying that's not one of your questions oh man he studied this week the thing is

let's let's say the obvious we want and need ratings. Where do we get those? The name main channel. We're on the main channel and we break for local news for them to talk about, you know. And we miss the most exciting part. A freaking hearties that caught on fire on the corner of Fifth and Maine. Like this is, this is how we all make a little.

Stranger orders biscuit and chicken leg. It's what makes this sport huge is being on network television. Like, I mean, the ratings are up. when we're on network. Did you still get your sides? Yeah. I'm sorry. I got a biscuit with my chicken.

Oh, you should just see how happy he was to get his extra biscuit. He's like, oh, there's a biscuit in here too. I was like, oh, my God. This is going to be a bad day. Do you like Bojangles a lot? I love Bojangis. I've never been to Bojangles. I've got some Bojangles rub stuff.

What? You can put it on your own. Where you get that at? The guy that owns this place? I need some of that. He was a Bojangles thing, wasn't he? Hannah, you've never had a. Cajun Filet sandwich

I've got some of it. Cajun Fis. Is that, it's fish? No. Filet, right? Fish filet? Oh. You can fillet a fish. Right, that's what I think of when you say a filet. That's because that's what McDonald's is.

McDonald's is a filet. Does Bojangles even have fish? Okay, well, Bojangles. I hope not. Bojangles. Do they have fish? Bojangles. Bojangles is a restaurant for all of you listening in the Southeast.

And it is primarily spicy chicken. And you've never been. And then you just asked me if they have fish if it was a fish sandwich. Have you not ever seen a Bojangles commercial on TV? That would probably require me to have cable and I don't have that.

Have you ever been to the Charlotte Motor Speedway where there's Bojangles all the... Yeah, Bojangles sponsors the summer shootout. Chicken and biscuits. That's what it says on the sign. Chicken and biscuits. Trying to watch my weight over here so you quit calling me pregnant.

Well, you're eating for two. TJ, I swear. You set it up. I'm sorry. I might need to open this Jack Daniels. That's what this is. Don't give her any sound allowed. Louisiana chicken. Do they have fish?

I don't think it's Louisiana. They do. He says that. I've just gotten introduced to Popeyes and I'm addicted. There is no way you go to Bojangles and get the fish. Thank you. That sounds concerning. I don't even know that I'm sitting on the menu.

I don't get fish from any fast food. Who? I didn't know they had fish. Leave it a donor to tell somebody That the chicken place has fish Who did? Oh, that's right Who?

Brad? Guy works on the land That's right That dude that works on the land Brad Burroughs, He's in a bojangles commercial He's in a lot of commercials He's in a movie

No more Bojangler Sorry He's in that movie with a Chris Who's that comedian Chris Rock? No, who's the actor? Chris Rock is a comedian No, it's the other guy

Kevin Hart Kevin Hart. He's in, dude He's in that movie where he's tolling Kevin Hart's car and he works on the land. Moe's grass all day. I've seen him. Yeah.

Funny dude, man. Got a Kentucky waterfall. So more road courses were announced than paved short tracks on the 2021 Cup schedule. TJ. I mean, I don't mind the schedule. I mean, they're shaking it up a little bit. I really, a couple that I don't understand is the Nashville deal, the Oval there. But overall, I really wanted to run the all-star race at Bristol again, and we've talked about that before.

But I get it. Man, they're trying stuff. So road courses are exciting. They've been some of our best races, rating-wise and stuff. People like some road courses, so I'm okay adding a couple more in there. Yeah, I mean, people I felt like cried out, we've heard the rally cry for how many years now, more short tracks, more short tracks, more short tracks. I feel like in my mind, we have two short tracks, Bristol, Martinsville. I mean, you're going to call Richmond a short track, maybe.

You're going to call Phoenix. Phoenix. I don't really view them. We don't race them like they're short track. Maybe Richmond a little bit more than Phoenix, obviously. Phoenix is not a short track anymore. But now you've taken away 25% of our, quote-unquote, short tracks in my mind. Like, you've taken a really good short track race away and made it a dirt race, which is going to be interesting, to say the least.

Chaos. Yeah, I'm talking about this. Dude, you might win. Yeah, I got one. You want Eldora, man. You want El Dora. And, you know, six road courses. My guy's not exactly Boris said, so I'm not real thrilled about that.

But, you know, he's been getting better. We'll have a little more practice this week. But, yeah, I don't know. You know, I hopefully, and I saw somewhere where I think it was O'Donnell or somebody said they're not done, you know, 2020 or 2020 is going to be, you know, more bold changes. So hopefully they can find. some more ways to get some more short tracks. Nashville Fairgrounds, Nashville Fairgrounds, Nashville

Fairgrounds. We know that obviously they're building a new short track in Fontana. We know that one's coming soon. We know and have heard that Nashville is something that they're trying to do, right? But I think road courses are the new short tracks. We see guys wrecking each other. We see tempers flare. I mean, and I kind of think all this started when you go back

and watch Brian Vickers and Tony Stewart get into it out there in Sonoma. But we went from two road courses on the Cup Series to six. The Xfinity series has had four road courses. So in two years time, we went from two road courses to three road courses when we added the roval, which it got a lot of attention. The marketing hype behind the roval was huge. And then you know what? It lived up to it. Chase Elliott buries his car into tires, and it comes back and wins

the race. Jason, I know that day made you happy as a Chase Elliott fan. But I'm actually all for this because also not only are we adding road courses, we're adding new markets. We're going to Austin, Texas. We hear so many great things about Austin, Texas. And it's a young town. It's an opportunity for us to go down there, run on the F1 track, and get some new fans down there. Man, I'm excited about that. It's an opportunity to go to Road America, which I'm a huge fan of Wisconsin,

and it's obviously in Wisconsin. And, dude, that is a long racetrack. And a lot of opportunity for guys to go out there and really race hard and make mistakes and make it exciting. So I like to see us go to new places. We, you know, we shouldn't have to go to, I look, if you put me in charge an ass car, the first thing I would do is say,

we're going to Daytona twice, we're going to Charlotte twice, we're going everywhere else once. You know, let's not keep repeating these races. Let's go to these new places. Let's go to new parts of America. Let's go to places we've never been. And we could build on that.

So, I mean, California is getting ready to be, I think those fans are going to be super happy once they go to that short track out there. That's going to be exciting. So I think it's going to be cool. Have you, I heard that they did this on eye racing. Did you get any looks at this place? They didn't do it on eye racing.

They did it on... They did it on the NASCAR 2003 deal. Somebody built it and ran some laps there. You didn't see that? Yeah, they did some main car laps. I thought it was I racing. Well, it's the same. It's 2000, because you can't edit the eye racing stuff.

Somebody made the track, though. You have to go look at the video. It's on YouTube, I think. So some random dude created this track? Created the track, ran a race there, and the different cars and stuff. So you can kind of see what it was like. So it just looks like a Bristol with longer straightaway.

It's like a Martin'sville Bristol mix. Kind of. All right. So some more changes here, though, on that 2021 schedule. Bright start this off here with Atlanta gets two dates that replaces Kentucky. Spot on. The shit of fixed our elevator when we told them.

I love racing in Atlanta. Old War Out track. I love Old War Out tracks where you actually have to manage your tires. Spot on. Spot on. Kentucky was awful. I think, unfortunately, I think we got a repave coming in Atlanta, but hopefully it's also a reconfiguration

where we get back to maybe a true oval versus the tri-oval. And Darlington also gets two dates, replaces one of the Michigan dates, Brett. Spot on again, close to Myrtle Beach. Here's the funny thing, though. Darlington lost a race to Fontana. If you go back, if you have time, go to Nate Ryan's Twitter, who is a very intelligent journalist,

and it works extremely hard at NASCAR, read everything that he had to say because he said a lot of good things about and a lot of factual things about moving these races around but hey man I love Michigan I love going to Michigan I love the Michigan racetrack and I say loved in past tense after the repave the dang thing won't widen back out we got to figure out how to make that thing a five group track like it used to be I'd be all for that place but Darlington puts on a better race spot on yeah spot on definitely uh really miss the old Michigan it's just not I mean I love Michigan area still I love

I love the racetrack. I just wish we could get the groove a little wider there where we can sailor off in there against the wall and make up time when the tires wear out. Yeah, spot on. I mean, if we could ever figure out a way to get Michigan to race like California race, which are, you know, sister racetracks. Well, I ask if we could take the asphalt and put it there.

Pick it up and put it over there. That California race is one of my favorite races of the year. I mean, like you said, it was five grooves wide. You could run anywhere you wanted. Great for Darlington. Obviously, it's a big market for us, so it's going to be there. And IndyCar now going to be the only series that runs the Oval at IMS. So the IMS race now moves to the road course, Brett.

Spot off. I think it's unfortunate for all these kids that like Chase Briscoe that grow up and want to race at Indy. And we're clearly still going to be in Indy, but it's the Indy Roadcourse. It's not, I mean, Kevin Harvick potentially won the last ever Brickyard 400. And when you look at the history of that place and I think it was 26 years, 27. seven years in the running, whatever it was. It's a hard pill for me to swallow as a traditionalist to see. That's a drastic change.

I'm not saying it's a bad change, you know, in terms of entertainment and fun and all that. But just to see it, I mean, I just remember how big it was when we went to Indy for the first time. And I've been there with 300,000 fans and a little bit heartbreaking. Yeah, I think, I don't know, man. You want to win the break yard for it. It's on that list of races that you kind of want to win as a spotter. You think of like three races you want to win or probably Daytona, Darlington, and Indy, really.

I mean, in my opinion, those are the, those are crown jewel races. You want to win there. You know, every Martin's Vos on there. It's got a lot of history at the clock and stuff. But, you know, just the Brickyard 400 thing, it's big, man. You still have that, it just has that, it's the brickyard. May they run the Indy 500 and pack the place. When you drive into the place, it's like,

It's like walking out and seeing the football field for the first time in a stadium. When you see that field, you're like, wow, that's really cool. When you drive into indie, you still see them straightaway. And then, of course, just like, man, this place is pretty cool. So. Yeah, spot off. My guy was pretty decent on the Oval. It's not, you know, I don't anticipate him being winning the race on the road course anytime soon.

I'm in front of us. All right. Last one. Homestead now moved to the number two slot in the 2021 race schedule. I'm spot off because Brett is going to make a vacation out of this and I'm not sure he's going to make homestead. Brett doesn't even have a job for next year. You'll still go for the party.

Tutsies. I'm going to Tutsies. You guys can find me at Tutsies. That's right. We'll have time, you know. I heard they did this so race fans could make two weeks out of it and go see two races if they wanted to. That's a long stay down there. I think it would have been cool if they did a Wednesday, like did like a Saturday and then a Wednesday so people could do like

together, but two weeks. It is a long stay, but I mean, two weeks. I mean, if you're, I can tell you though, coming from like the north, there's a lot of race fans that might take their campers down there and make a trip out of it. I mean... Here's the winter. Yeah, I mean, you want to make a trip out of it or something.

I mean, I'm not totally against it. I think it's... Love Homestead as a racetrack. I wish they would have just kind of swapped the ends with Homestead and put it at the very end. Here's the magic play for this. you get to go to Daytona, the world's most famous beach. You get to watch the Daytona 500, my favorite race of the year.

You get to leave there, drive a couple hours to Orlando, do all the amusement parks, all the water parks, spend a few days there, leave there, drive down to Key Largo, get to enjoy the Keys. It's an hour. We clearly have different plans. It's an hour or less back to the racetrack. It is. And you're able to do this from a Saturday to a Tuesday. You could drive down, do Daytona, do Orlando, go do the keys, drive back and forth to the homestead, which is one of the best race tracks on the circuit for a mile and a half.

Spot on, man. I'm a big fan of the Miami area, but look, that's expensive, man. It's expensive to do anything in South Beach. But if you do Fort Lauderdale, it's kind of the same thing without the price punch. Yeah. And obviously, the keys are down there. And so, you know, T.J. spent a lot of times. I've seen a picture of him past...