Door Bumper Clear - 210 – Jon Wood: Good Stories Start with Bad Decisions

Episode Date: April 19, 2021

Richmond Raceway is in the books and the spotters return to break down the weekend of racing. T.J. Majors shares insight into Joey Logano’s late lead and near win on Sunday. Freddie Kraft talks about a difficult day for Bubba Wallace. And Brett Griffin addresses Casey for the first time in-person since blocking her on Twitter. Plus, Wood Brothers Racing’s Jon Wood joins the show to share some epic tales.Denny Hamlin said that he’d rather be in his current position than in race winner Alex Bowman’s after the race. What did he mean by that and does the spotting trio agree with his comments? They discuss.Only two natural cautions have occurred in the last 885 laps at Richmond Raceway. Why is this short track not producing the action it was once known for? The gang weighs in and explains why the cars aren’t hard to drive. Plus, hear why they believe Kevin Harvick saved the day.Chase Elliott remains the only Hendrick Motorsports car without a victory in 2021. After a dominant finish to last season and a tendency to come alive later in the year, is the No. 9 team holding back right now? The spotters debate.T.J. shares about Hailie Deegan’s learning curve in the Truck Series after a rough Saturday at Richmond Raceway and explains comments he made on channel two after a crash that Deegan narrowly avoided.Who are the worst drivers the guys have ever spotted for? They engage in a lively conversation reliving some of their most memorable moments spotting for slower cars.Next, Wood Brothers Racing’s Jon Wood joins the show to clear things up after Brett shared some stories that lacked the entire truth. He tells on himself, sharing tales of catching a team van’s brakes on fire, flying an airplane out of the sunroof, and driving a van through the woods.Plus, he provides insight into the unique perspective and style he brings to the Wood Brothers social media account during races. Hear why he says some of the things he says, even if NASCAR may not always be happy about it. In Reaction Theatre, fans are snoozing and choking. T.J. gets blasted, Brett gets compared to a foreign leader and Freddie is told to suck it.Lastly, the gang prepares for the upcoming race weekend at Talladega Superspeedway. Want more DBC? Check out and subscribe to the new DBC YouTube channel! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

I'm T.J. Majors, you're listening to Door Bumper Clear. Today, Brett, Freddie, and I will cover what Denny Hamlin said about Alex Bowman after the race. The lack of cautions in Richmond races and NASCAR and IndyCar race starting at the same time. Not to mention, John Wood is coming on. Here we go. Nobody's listening, but I don't care. I'm on an episode of Door Bumper Clear. Hey, everybody. I'm T.J. Majors.

Spotter the 22 Cup car. the one truck, and we are starting the show two minutes later than scheduled, and we are not full. Brett Griffin, Spotter for Collegers Racing this weekend at Tallade. I got Jeff Burton on Saturday, Kaz Graala on Sunday. And to TJ's point, not only are we starting the show two minutes late, we were all here early and ready to start the show on time. So she's not even here yet, Freddie. Yeah, what's up, Freddie Craft, Spotter for Bubba Wallace, Derek Krause, part-time Jeff Burton. on vacation this week.

We got our lovely host, Casey. Hey, guys. Casey boat. Our lovely host, Casey, is late for the 37th week in a row. Just for the show, we think. She's late every week. She's late. Every time we call her out on it, she has some lame excuse.

So we're just going to start without us. Maybe she's late. Jason said, hey, fire the mics up. So what's up, Jason? We'll talk to you instead of her. What's up? I didn't know. That was good, Jason.

That was really a way to bring the energy. right there. You got an archa car this weekend, Brett? I do not. Arka. Arka. Yeah, I was curious. I mean, if you're going to Talladega, didn't know.

Let's don't go that far. Well, Freddy's doing one. I always do one. I haven't done an Arka car and probably... A hundred years. When was Tim Georgia thing? When did he start? Tim George?

He was about 1987. 1987? Kevin Hamman won a race with him. That's hands down the last Harker race today. Casey, welcome to the show. I've got a breaking news. Kind of having to join us. year.

You're only three and a half minutes late this week as opposed to your typical seven. Anything else you want to say? You want to get your headphones on and maybe join us? I thought you had her blocked. Yeah, she is. She is blocked. I'm sorry, what did she say, Freddy? I can't hear her.

Do you want to tweet it so that I can't read it? No, we got on video. It's been all videoed, so. Oh, boy. Welcome to the show. Hey, Case. How are? Good morning.

Thanks, guys. Good morning. Good morning to everybody except for. What's your experience? excuse for being late this time. She said good morning to everybody except for you, Brett. Oh, hey, Casey. I tell her that I said good morning.

Casey, just so you know, we got specific directions to not wear fluorescent stuff to shows. We did. Green, actually. I mean. This isn't green, is it? This is more of a human highlight or yellow. That sure makes your face red. Did you take a boat to the show?

I did. I took a boat. You look like it. Oh, you can still see me on Instagram. I've got to fix that. Hold on. I would like to know, first off, did we actually, like, do the intros and stuff?

Oh, yeah. I would like to know. The show's live. This is live right now. What do you want to know? Well, we were supposed to start at 1030. Is that what you want to know? Just kidding.

Sorry, you teed that right up. I had to do. By the way, that's... TJ actually went a step further, and he said... Maybe it, I don't know. Yeah. What did you say? I said, you're beautiful today.

Listen, what did you want to know, Case? Why was I blocked? There's 700 and... 80, 80 or something. There's probably at least 600 people that had that same question. I mean, I don't know what I did because first off, I tweeted what we said. That's pretty common, too. That's right on par with the rest of them.

That's what everybody said. So everybody that gets blocked almost has these same things in common. they say I tweet too much what's Casey been saying you tweet too much oh so there's the rest of the people here she gripes about what my tweets are about so guess what I don't make people follow me so the way that I get rid of these people that have a problem following me is I just block them I did not say anything negative about what your tweets were about in fact I've given you a few compliments over the past few weeks you should change that so I'm not really sure what I did here and Casey's upset Casey no I'm perfectly fine being blocked because Like the rest of the people who tweeted at me saying they're not sure why they were blocked, it's fine. It's fine. It's fine. I'm not mad. What she said was she doesn't understand why she won't. You are more sensitive than a high school girl. I had so many people after I'm not mad that were going crazy that it was obviously. It was so entertaining. It was awesome. I know. I don't know what you tweeted yesterday because I got tagged saying something about more. wedding photos and not calling not naming my daughter motor uh you can easily get a burner account i got a few

i'm hot i mean honestly like everybody who said something good thank you you made my day yesterday so here's what i tweeted yesterday i said should i unblock casey yes or no and if if so why all wrong answers only please so that's that's why you got i tagged you so your phone would blow up so you're welcome well thanks they were a great compliment so thank you to everybody you said something I said wrong answers only. Remember? You know what? There's no need for you to be a d-a-d-d-I. I'm kidding.

Don't take it so serious. It's just social media. You are more sensitive than a girl. I'm not sensitive at all. I think you're actually both very sensitive if you want to know the truth. I think this is awesome. I do, too. I'm glad you're finding enjoyment.

We can hug it out after this show. We're okay. It's against COVID policy. It is. I'm fully vaccinated, by the way, now. Yeah. Got my second shot last week. And I had, I had, I mean, I kind of felt hung over.

That was because you were drunk. Well, I mean, I figured a couple of vodka waters wouldn't hurt. Did it make the shot hurt less? Let's put it this way. So I'll say this, the first shot, as far as like muscle pain in my arm, the first shot, my arm hurt more. The second shot, my arm did not hurt hardly any at all. It's like backwards. But I just kind of felt like my brain was swollen.

Well, they said. It said, like, research showed that if you haven't had it, if you haven't had it, one shot hurts more than the other, and I don't remember which one. So I was told by a medical professional that as soon as you get the second shot, take a Zyrtec D and two Tylenol. And I literally, before I even rolled up the hill, I popped a Zyrtec D and two Tylenol. And, I mean, I wouldn't say I really had any side effects, so, or any symptoms of, quote, COVID. So, Freddie, you got your first one, right?

Yeah, my first one last week. So that was fine. Megan's arm hurt. Megan me and Megan did it together. Her arm hurt a lot more than mine did, but it's probably something to do with the fact that her arm's a tenth of the size of mine. So it's probably not, probably some kind of correlation there. But yeah, it was fine.

No issues. I read where like 30 to 40% of Americans are fully vaccinated, which I think is good thing. That's all we need is about 50, right? Yeah. As long as half of us got it. I think it's going to be a lot more here in another month or so. I think that are probably, I think you're probably, have 60.

Yeah, I'm going to get it? Yeah, I've already got the first one. Oh, yeah? Yeah. I got it mainly because of my mom. Yeah, I mean, as much me and Megan go and do travel all the time and go to events, whatever, and I think the way that the world is trending is your travel or your events are going to be either, you know, proof of vaccination or negative tests.

And I don't feel like getting a cotton swab jammed up my nose every time I want to do something. And I don't have a problem with that. I don't have a problem with the negative test. or be fully vaccinated. I don't think so. To each their own. You have your choice. You don't get anything,

but you're getting tested to make sure everyone else is safe. What's wrong with that? Yeah. I don't think. I don't have a problem with that. No. No.

I mean, if we want to all get back to normal, we've got to do something, right? Yeah. I mean, I think we are on the way there. I mean, you obviously can't, minus masks. Mask mandates at some places. And, you know, when you go in places,

it's still probably safe to wear a mask for a little while. But, hey, we're just taking care of each other still, and it's not, you know, know, it's what we need to do for a little bit to help get all the way back to normal. So speaking back to normal, Richmond last year would not let us come race there. They were one of the tracks that said, you're not coming. Even with no attendance, you're not coming. So what was it like going back to Richmond?

And I saw some fans were there. They did have a fall race last year. Yeah, we had a fall race. Oh, did we? But we didn't have a, we were up in the grandstand. Oh, yeah. I remember that. Yeah.

Man, honestly, it felt more like a normal race weekend. I mean, the guy and the loudspeaker, we're sitting there in a car. You could hear him talking like. And behind us was all like kind of souvenir row. Like the trailers are back. And there's people walking through there. They're carrying bags, you know, getting stuff. It felt normal a little bit.

Great parking. Yes. That's the trend of COVID. So what are spotters going to do when you guys lose your good parking? I don't know. We're going to be back to rant on here. Once we get back to the track, we'll probably still be having to take a bus over. They towed my car from Richmond about five years ago.

And it costs me $300 to get my car back. I don't know how, but we got even closer than we were. We were decent at Richmond already, but now we're even closer. I don't know what we're doing, but we're doing something right. Someone put a door bumper clear sign on your spotter parking. Somebody stole it, I think, because it was gone when I got there. I don't blame them for stealing it. I mean, it's good.

I think with the COVID stuff, NASCAR was able to trim a lot of things in a lot of areas and figure out where they could really cut things and where they could manure things. to make things more efficient and stuff like that. And honestly, I think they've done a great job. I mean, everything, we were all worried about going to Darlington for that first race back, the line for getting in, you know, for checking in,

doing all our, you know, checks and everything was going to be ridiculous. We all rolled right in there. We all parked right there. It's been, I will have to say, I think they took this as, like, a learning experience to figure out what might work moving forward. because even from like meetings that I'm a part of and what they have planned for the future, like we were the first sport to come back last year. And I think even, you know, TJ, to your point, like things that they, adjustments that they've changed, they're almost for the better. So they're able to try some new things.

And I don't know. Once we get back to normal, I can't wait to see what they have coming up because I know some things that are going on and it's pretty great. That's awesome. That's what we need. I mean, they've been great. I did get to see one of the biggest DBC fans that I know this weekend. He was hanging out around the elevator to say hi is Kevin from Virginia. Yeah.

Yeah. So he texts me earlier, sent me a DM earlier in the week that he was going to a sprint car race. So I sent him over to see Sunshine and a couple of other my buddies. So he got a couple pictures with them. And he's like, man, I loved it. Virginia Motor Speedway, which I'm not sure where the hell that is. That's the first time I've ever heard of it. I think it's the only sprint car race in Virginia all year.

But so he's talking about how much he loved that. And then I knew he was at the track Sunday, so I said, hey, stop by here and say, hey, so it's good to see him. Hey, he's, like I said, one of our biggest fans. He retweets every week and enjoys the show. So it's good to catch up with him a little bit. And in the race, I could have done without. Yeah, Kevin's a great guy. He and his wife, I was able to get them garage passes a couple years back.

And we've not had the chance to meet in person yet, but like you said, great dude on social. I enjoy his tweet. So huge DBC listener. Appreciate you. sharing the love man and I know he loves that Richmond racetrack. We have some gifts if you want those right now. Gifts or gifts?

Yeah, I mean, why not? How about some fiend gifts? Do we got liquor? If we have liquor, I'm pouring it right in my drink because after yesterday I need it. You need a fiend clock, Casey. I know, I'm sorry to disappoint everybody. Holy smokes.

Shut up. Nice. Oh, my. Was this directed at? Was this directed at us? Wow. I don't know who sent me Blanton's, but I need their address. That is insane.

You know how hard this stuff is to get? I mean. Holla. This is easily. I don't know what Freddy's bottle is. Freddy's got a blanket. I'm going to force me to drink it. As do I.

This is probably worth $300. So nice. Yes. Man, I'm going to drink bourbon. So here's the car. Jason, do we know who this is from? No, I didn't see a name anywhere. Okay, well, DM us or tweet us if this is from you.

The card says, I feel like you guys haven't gotten enough alcohol this year. You have not spent any time with us. Did you not listen to Freddie last week? I feel like you guys haven't gotten enough alcohol this year. Love the show and look forward to it every week. So thank you, whoever you are, and let us know who you are. Yeah. So we can say thanks properly.

What Josh Barry wins do to Freddy's liver? I was only a Josh's for about 20 minutes, but... Yeah, that's awesome. It was labeled to Brett, TJ, and Freddie with the Y. Oh, my God. Never mind. Take this shit back. TJ, if you don't want yours, I'll take it.

I'll try it, man. What date? What date was yours? Mine was 72220. This is made at Buffalo Trace Distillery, which is just in Kentucky. It's about an hour from the racetrack that we no longer go to. And it's a beautiful, beautiful bourbon facility. But no, this is.

We talked about that when I went up there. That place, the one I went in, meld like it was good inside like it just had that aroma of bourbon it was uh woodford yeah probably woodford reserve maybe this is not made it the same place as woodford but this is uh i'm gonna google it all right now 3759 and 99 cent freddies is worth 188 $0.89. But here's the thing about these bourbons. You can't find them to buy them.

Yeah, like you couldn't buy it somewhere. You can't go into a liquor store and buy this. You actually have to go in there and get it. You've got to... In this distillery, probably. You've got to get lucky. I mean, you got to, you got to, you got to, you got to buy this in the distillery even. You got to know Rob.

Yeah. You got to know Rob. Our buddy Rob and George Jones restaurant, he's able to get some of these. Yeah. They're super hard to get. So whoever did this, you're amazing. They've got to be super hooked up. Maybe that's why they don't want us to know who it is.

That's possible. Yeah. Maybe it was Casey. DMS, though. We'll send you some stuff. I wouldn't include one person. Maybe it was Casey. But there would only be two bottles.

Yeah. I think Mike Davis probably sent this to us. Right. I can guarantee that that's not the case. Yeah, me too. I think he would maybe give you guys that before pinning one of our shows, though, according to Brett. Oh, boy.

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First topic, Denny Hamlin says I'd rather be where I'm at than Alex Bowman. We're smashing everyone after finishing P2 on Sunday. Spot on, spot off, Freddie. Spot on. I mean, I don't know. I get it. I know what he's saying. I don't know if he believes what he's saying, but he has been the dominant car this

year and just hasn't been able to close the deal out. I mean, if you look at the stats, Denny has led. almost 700 laps this year and Alex has led 11. So who would you rather be in that scenario? But Alex is locked in the playoffs right now with a win. So obviously Denny's win's coming. You can only put yourself in position this many times before you finally get one. But it's got to be eating at him a little bit, Brett, that he hasn't closed a deal yet.

I mean, you lose to a guy that led 10 laps all day. He led the last 10. He led the right one, though. The last one that counts. And I mean, I was happy for Alex. There were points of the race where lap time. wise he was really, really fast. But again, that race was weird in terms of how it played out with the cautions and the

strategies. And fast cars ended up a lap down, two laps down. I mean, at the very end, we only had seven or eight guys on the lead lap there. So the cards fell his way. They played everything correctly. And good for Alex. I think I would love to know what question made Denny have this answer. Because it's kind of a strange answer because, yeah, I mean, he's stating obvious.

I would rather be Denny Hamlin right now, too, than Alex Bowman. because Denny has what, top fours in damn near every race. I mean, he's led a ton of laps, and he's obviously the contender right now to beat in terms of his championship. I mean, he's in the conversation to me. Joy Legano's in the conversation. Martin Truex is in the conversation. I don't know who my fourth guy is right now,

but all these winners keep popping off these races, and now Michael McDowell is out of top 16 of points, which means that the person who is 16th in points is also out of the playoffs. and we're going to continue to see that pressure. We saw Eric Amaroli yesterday have a really good run, still way down in the points almost with no chance to make this playoff unless he wins a race.

We're going to see those guys start throwing hellmeries. TJ. I mean, dude just beat us all on a restart, man. I mean, they took us all to school. Everyone thought, and including me, I thought it was a race between us and Denny. And it had been, and Alex just got up on it, man, Greg and them. Made the right of job. He was fast on short runs all day, but that was really fast.

So whatever Greg and them did to that car, it looked like at the end of the race, he was just, he had already used it up and it was starting to fade a little bit. Another three, four laps probably, maybe you have a different outcome. But hey, man, great execution there at the end. And I mean, yeah, Denny's got speed every week, but, you know, speed's fun. Fast race cars are great. to have, but you never know when your next win's going to be. It might be, you might win two, three in a row, and then you might go two years without a

win. You just never know. You never know. What I was kind of wondering, as this thing played out, Alex won the race, I'm like, wow, this essentially, in my mind, puts all 400 cars in the playoff, right? Because you got three locked in and Chase Elliott sitting there who he's going to make it. Then you look at Gibbs and you're like, all right, those four guys should all make it. right then you look at Penske and you're like those three guys should make it

Matt Devin and Detto is essentially in a Penske car he there certainly doesn't look like he's going to make it and then you got Michael McDowell so if that's the way it's playing out there's really only four spots right now up in the air to make the playoffs for a lot of good teams you got to assume Harvick's going to make it now there's three left right so looking at this championship battle I think it's heating up a lot earlier than what I thought it would in terms of the conversation and the way it's going to play out Who would have thought that Kyle Bush would be the biggest question mark to make the playoff at Gibbs? You know, Bell's locked in, Truex is locked in, Denny's dominating.

Those three are virtually locked. You know, Kyle is your question mark all of a sudden. And to bring in that conversation, Ty Gibbs is setting the world on fire. And everybody keeps saying whose job is he going to take? Wow. Who would have thought a year and a half ago that we would have said, well, Ty Gibbs may be taking Kyle Bush's job. And I'm not saying that he is now, but I'm telling you, like if you, you said what's going to happen, that would have to be what makes the most sense.

Spot on, spot off. Joey Lugano loses the lead on pit road during the final caution and finishes third. TJ. I mean, I'm not going to be spot on for it, but hey, we had a good pit stop. Just Levin had a little bit better pit stop. That's just how it goes. We've beat plenty of people off pit road and been in position to win races in the same boat. That's just how it goes.

our pit crew is awesome. They gain us spots almost every time we come down pit road. But that's one of the good, that's one of the fun parts of yellows and stuff. You just don't know. It's not, nothing's guaranteed. So I don't know what Denny Hamlin's pit crew gets for bonuses. But yesterday, holy bonus time. Those guys came off pit road on fire every single stop.

I was personally wanting Denny to win the race and T.J. to finish second. So I could have Offer Pad Mitch in Victory Lane and have T.J. win me DBC pick. So that didn't happen. but I still beat you guys. His pit stall was making it up, too. I mean, he was pitted. That's what I was going to say. He had second selection, and that's a lot, you know, he puts a lot of emphasis.

You know, he comes to some, in our Tuesday morning debrief sometimes at 23, and he puts a lot of emphasis on qualifying position, you know, because you're kind of in control that about, you know, running up front, staying up there in the points. And then he puts a lot of emphasis on running your fastest lap, you know, trying to get the fast lap because that's another 50. percent of it. And a big part of that is your pit stall selection. And I noticed, I went back and looked, and I don't know if you got held up at all or not, but Danny was second pit stall.

So obviously the first stall, the first guy is going to take stall one. The next best pit stall is like saw five with a big opening out front where you can drive through the corner. And then you guys were back in like the 30 somewhere. So I would pick like fifth or something like that. So I mean, just that little bit of difference could make the difference in the race right there. We only beat us off by like, yeah, by a half a car length or something. So. But yeah, spot on. I don't know what it is. Ever since I've become full-time on this show,

I find myself actively cheering against the 22 at the end of the races. So spot-on for that. I was happy to see that. I'm sad the boss man didn't get a win, but it is what it is. Spot on, spot off. There were only two natural cautions

in the last 885 laps of cup racing at Richmond. Brett. The word natural cautions, the first thing that comes to mind. What's a natural caution? Not like a non-state accident. an accident.

Non-planned. Non-planned caution? Yeah. So should stage breaks even be cautions? Should they be yellows? Those are natural. They put it out. They put it out.

Man, I'm a huge spot off on this one. How do you go to a short track where we're supposed to have this amazing product where the tire fall off is crazy? And we are wreck and race cars. Both cautions yesterday. One was from probably an inexperienced driver, Austin Cendrick, who turned Ryan Newman around. the other one, somehow or another, Kevin Harvick's tire went flat, which saved the race.

I fell asleep twice during this race, and I didn't need to. I disagree. And I didn't mean to. I was dozing off and watching the race, you know. So I don't know what needs to happen here. I was telling Freddie on the way here, you know, I'm watching this race, and I don't see the cars really doing a whole lot. It just seems like some guys are faster than others. You know, everybody was hustling it in the corner, hustling through the center, and hammering the throttle up off.

And I just didn't see anything that the cars were doing to make them hard to drive. And you're not going to see guys of this caliber, a race car driver's wrecking when the cars are stuck and planted to the earth like they are. Yeah, I mean, we've gone over this for some reason, this package. And the thing is, we've harped on this for years, TJ on here, is tire wear. And we had plenty of tire wear yesterday. But the race still suffered. And I don't know if it's just a product of that same. type of racetrack like Phoenix where it's that flat three-quarter mile mile

racetrack where this package just doesn't work like Brett said there was no you like just guys could just run up on you and turn underneath you and go by you like it was just speed differential in the car not so much guys that were you know that you weren't making mistakes your car wasn't loose your car wasn't super tight but then there was you know there was just a guy that could roll up on you drive by you just seemed like they were way easy to drive I don't we struggled a lot but you know that's we were on one end of the spectrum completely.

But it just, I don't know, I don't know, just make them hard to drive. The two cautions in the last two races there is unacceptable. And especially when one is, none of them are driver error. One's a blown tire and one's a Austin syndrome coming off pit road on a green flag stop, not realizing I'm probably going to drive in here hard get on the splitter. He does and gets into Newman. So, I mean, what, I don't know how you fix it, but we've got to do something. Yeah, I don't, these, like our cars, like we've talked about it before,

they are just, they're too stuck to the track. Like they're, we used to go to Richmond, all these places. Backing it in was a thing because you didn't have all that stability in the back and, and the guys were fighting, they're fighting the cars. And you don't see anybody, we cut a tire and somebody back it in. But that, like, there's no, they're still going to complain about, I'm tight in, loose in, loose in, tight in, tight in, loose off. No matter how fast you're going, unless you're holding a thing wide open,

you're going to have something stopping you from going faster. So to me, we're still just, we're still just stuck. Like, you can see it when they're going through the corners, just how much grip they have and how much they're carrying it. Even though on older tires, they're sliding around and stuff, they're still gripped up compared to what we used to be back in the day there. And I just think, I just think we're stuck. You know, and that makes it the cars,

not that they're not hard to drive still, because these guys got their hands full at times, but they're just gripped up. Alex Bowman got out of the car without a single drip of sweat on his body. He looked like he'd been riding around in the air conditioning all day. He got that cool suit, man, that you plug in. I know what you mean, though. Yeah, I mean, these guys are athletes.

They're in great shape. I'm not saying they're not. But, man, I want to see a guy that looks like he's whipped after winning a race. And he didn't look whipped at all. He looked like he could run 10 more of those things. the three other Hendrik mother sports cars of Byron, Larsen, and Bowman all win a race before defending champion Chase Elliott in 2021. Freddie, spot on, spot off. I mean, spot on.

I don't think it's really a surprise. I think they all had good speed. T.J. was the only one surprise to see Larson win this year so far. Very. But I mean, Byron was fast the end of the last year. He fired off fast. Bowman was fast last year. The Chevys were fast at the end of the year.

And like Brett said earlier, Chase is going to get in. He's going to get a win. I feel like he's naturally been a slow starter. I don't remember him really setting a world on fire to begin a season always, ever. And then, you know, he kind of comes on at the end. So it be interesting to see. But, I mean, the only race you're probably surprised he didn't win was maybe the road course at Daytona. But other than that, it's not really a big surprise.

They've been fast, all four cars and all four are going to be in the playoffs. Brett. I don't know what Chase Ellis. Elliot and his team are doing it the second half of last year, but they're not doing it this year. And I think there's a reason for that. I think they don't want people, competitors, NASCAR, to figure out what they're doing to be so fast. I think they're holding that. You know, I hate to say the word sandbagging, because when I was growing up in the sport,

you would literally watch teams and you would say, oh, he's sandbagging right here in practice. And then I became a part of the sport, and I went to test with Todd Parrott at Daytona. and we sandbagged at the Daytona test. We would not go out there and run a lap full out for any reason at the test. We would come back to Daytona 500 for qualifying, real-life qualifying practice. We still wouldn't run full out. He would have Elliott halfway down the back stretch to crack the throttle and get back in it. Back then there wasn't all this SMT for anybody to see what we were doing.

So when Elliott Sadler went out and sat on the front row with Greg Biffle at the Daytona 500 that year, we didn't know how fast we were going to run until Elliott, actually went out there and did. I feel like this nine team is kind of doing this same thing right here, TJ. Maybe they're not showing their full hand. Maybe they're keeping some of those things that made them dominant at Phoenix. I'm talking full-blown lights out dominant. We just went to Phoenix two or three races after he won that championship there,

and he was not nowhere near that fast. So I feel like they're sandbagging on us a little bit. Yeah, I don't. I mean, to me, sometimes the teams that start the season super strong and dominate, Nate, it's hard to carry that through. How many months is our season go? Oh, 10 months. Tough. I mean, you're almost a year.

Things evolve in a year, you know, and I think sometimes starting off that strong, you know, look at Harvick. It gets knocked out, you know, and Denny didn't quite have that dominating speed at the end of the year, the playoffs that he had, you know, after we, from Darlington on, we started up again.

But also, don't forget, they change the way we go through tech as well. You're not allowed to fail. three to you're not allowed to fail a bunch of different stations or whatever and get and then go back and you know fail different when they go back again now everyone counts so if you fail this one and fail the next one you're going to the back so I think there are some things they're they're feeling it out I'm sure they're not I mean I'm not worried about chase is quietly sitting there and can any point fine I mean any it wouldn't surprise me if we go to the Neladega be different but it

wouldn't surprise me if we go to Kansas and he's lights out fast. Let me ask you this, though. You brought up a good point. So you just said we didn't practice at all in Richmond, right? So you went through tech and you went and raced. And the race was not a great race from my couch. Maybe it was. Maybe it was if you were in a stands.

Maybe it was if you were an Alex Bowman fan. I don't know, right? But for me, it wasn't a great. So if we had had practice at Richmond, what does that do for the race? I think it makes the race worse. Yeah, we'd probably dial our cars in a little bit more. that probably does make the race a little worse. I definitely think it makes it worse.

Yeah. Me too. The one thing that I know, like talking to my guys, they did make a fairly substantial change to the way they maybe interpreted one rule and sent a, you know, after Phoenix last year, because we had been talking about a lot in the beginning of year, especially in talking to Daddy about it too, just, you know, body changes that they made. So maybe that, you know, that might have been something that they caught on,

because remember if you remember, right, the nine did fail tech at Phoenix when he dominated. Obviously, that we could talk about how that spring 10 things to the track and hope three of them get through. So, you know, but they do make a big change in the off season tell guys not to bring something back. That could be affecting them more than others also. But like Brett said, you don't really show all your cards until it counts, but a lot of these teams, you know, they kind of, they show them once. You know, all right, just all going to work. Can we get all this through tech? Okay, good, we got it.

Put it away until November. you know, but yeah, it'll be interesting to see, like you said, though, they're going to be fine, they're going to make the chase. I think they had a system of knowing what they could adjust and what they could fail with. I think many teams do. They know, like what Cole Pern told us, like you said, you go with 10, hope you get it. I think they figured out what to push here to get away with something here in the next station,

but now that now with each one counting is a fail and you go to the back after two, you know, like that's way, that's cutting in half basically. so you can't do that stuff now. But I think there was a system that people started to figure out because the cars that went to the back, what do they do? When they went to the back, what do they do? Coming to the front. Drove right to the front.

So it didn't even, it almost got to the point where it was like, it was worth it. Yeah, I mean, I'm going to do it because it's worth it. So that's just my opinion on it. T.J. tells Haley Deegan, low, low, low, low, low. Then on Channel 2 says low means go low. not stay in the groove during Saturday's truck.

I'm spot off. We didn't. You know, Haley's doing, I think for no practice, I mean, this is the hardest year to come into a series like the truck series and start with basically no experience at all and try to learn. No practice, no qualifying. Your first left with this tracks when you get the green flag down into one and you ran O'C, decent to last race, so you're starting 14th, which in the truck series is right in the middle of what's it like around 12th to 20?

It's a bees nest. Yeah, so your first lap on this track is in a turn one in the bees nest. So, you know, she's in Richmond's not, I mean, it can be a tough place. I mean, it's not these short tracks like Martinsville, oh, it's a short track, I'll go there and be really fast. Martin'sville is one of the toughest race tracks we go to. And you can't, like, she's up against. I mean, she's quietly running good. We just get caught up in a, we're just in that area and we always get kind of caught.

up and stuff and she's not familiar with these tracks a lot and how to get out of the when things happen in front of her she's not familiar with like you know when wrecks happen at short tracks sometimes you got to speed up to get by the wreck before it comes to you yeah and that was kind of an instance here where the wreck i saw the wreck happen in front of us i saw it coming and you know i'm saying go low well she kind of kind of hesitated a little bit and wasn't at richmond you're kind of you're going slow enough in the middle of the corner after you've got your breaking done that you don't really slide to the wall you just do that slow slow slow slow. slide in the middle of the track and I don't think she was fully sure where the guy was going to go but

you know there's a bunch of racetrack down here and it's not a mile and a half where you're going to rip the nose off or something so and you know you're right by the restart zone there's enough room to go down go down there and I just you know she's still kind of learning where to maneuver for wrecks and what to do like short tracks you kind of got you do got to speed up to get by it sometimes Bristol you know if they reckon funny they're coming down yeah so you need to get you need to get by it so you just have like I've been there before with especially working with all the young drivers. It's a moment of, it's the, is this thing on?

You know, is this thing working? Are you listening to me? You know, and like, and it's a rookie, so they don't want to wreck. They're trying to process everything, and then maybe not fully focused on what you're saying. But yeah, it's one of them deals. She's done fine, I think. Did you watch the truck race? I did not, but when I read this tweet, the first thing that came to mind for me was

get low, get low, get low, get low, get low, get low, get low, get low, get low, get low front of windows to the walls. Stop there. I was like the next line. So I was like, man, TJ has gone into full-blown rap mode right here. I am spot on for this. I was definitely wrapping. I was definitely rapping there.

She goes out of her way. I don't know if you saw the accident we had in turn three where the, was it the 12? Yeah, the 12 got mad. But we're literally, we're inside the 9 truck going into 3. The 9's coming down like she's not there. Instead of hitting the 9, letting him wreck himself, she slams on the brakes, locks the tires up a little bit. We go up the track, Elaine.

and the 12 is trying to go around the outside, we hit him. But she, like, that's an instance, like, and somebody that's experience, you're going to let that guy come down and get himself back. So, you know, doing, and she's. And that's the problem. Like, and not, I don't want to say it's a problem because she's had,

she's been aggressive in the past in other series. She's been firing the trucks. But you can't let that guy chop you because once you let a couple of guys chop you, then they're like, oh, we can just take advantage of this one, you know, she's also, chill back out when we come down on. That's the guy that went into turn three. at the road course as well and decided to send us three lanes deeper into the...

He got... I don't know. That's the Robar kid, right? Oh, yeah. Did you see him get wrecked? I didn't see it. Apparently, Austin Wayne shipped him down on a turn one about as hard as you could. I saw Timmy was a little fired up about that. Feederer spots for the nine. But, yeah,

that was an interesting truck race. I promise you she wasn't the most interesting female in that one. Are we talking about any of that later on? He didn't get to see the truck race. Oh, yeah. Jennifer Joe and Norm were 47 Laps down at lap 12. I had numerous people texting me that are friends of mine. One of them is my baseball coach, Bodie's baseball coach.

How on earth is this lady allowed to make a cup series start next year at Talladega? So I wasn't watching live. But nonetheless, what did she do? So I did not catch the first part of it. This started before this race, I guess. I guess there's a past. Yeah, I talked to Clayton. And Clayton said that it was years of races.

But something happened. I didn't see what happened off of. two, but six turns the pan off of two. Like gets up under the left rear quarter panel, turns down the inside. And then she waits on the six and wrecks them. Yellow comes out. Everyone pits, everything cycles. We're all racing back up front again.

Middle of the pack. We're all racing hard. The field goes by and then you're like, you hear this, wow. You look back here. Here's a six spinning out. And the tank. Half a track behind everybody else. You're like, what is going on?

There are two seconds off the pace and wrecking each other. What do you think came next? driver, crew chief, spotter of the 10 to the hauler after the race. Why would they call the spotter to the hauler? What did he do? Well, it's just because... Well, there's some spotters that would tell him. Maybe he did something.

There are spotters that would say, wreck him. Like, there are spotters that would... Maybe they assumed that. Yeah, I don't know. Not me, because I don't want to go to the truck. I'm thinking wrecking him. And the best thing is they call us to the hall and they're not allowed to go to. We're not allowed in the infield.

How do you do that? They didn't do it. They take, I guess, I guess, came over and told Clayton, he was excused, and I guess they talked to him in a deal. different point. But, yeah, like, they caught, spotted to the hauler. I don't know. What do you think it's like? How am I going to get the infield? And look, I've never been in the situation, but what do you think it's like to put your headset on every single fucking week knowing that you're going to spot for a vehicle that is two seconds off the pace?

I hope to never know. What do you think it's like? Because I would never in my life do that. There's no chance. Yeah, I've never, uh, yeah. I mean, honestly, when we first started spotting, you didn't have a lot of cars that were like that. Like, you had to qualify in, and then you race, like, it wasn't, you know, there wasn't the, just trying to finish the race here. I mean, you got, not to the extent they are now. Like, it was a, if you were in, you were racing. And not that these guys aren't racing, but they got to take that car next week, you know, and a lot of these are on. There are people who need jobs.

I guess that. Yeah, there are people who need to earn a living. It's a business for them, yeah. I'm telling you Brett Griffin has not and will never do that. Who is the worst car or driver you've ever spotted for? No comment. Don't be scared. Who is it?

That you would never do again. Yeah, I don't want to say. He's still racist. I think. I've had a couple in the ARCA series that were... Mine was ARCA. Oh, mine was ARCA for sure. I got a freaking phone call from Eddie.

Oh, what was his last thing? Sharp? Sharp, yeah. Eddie Sharp. Yes, Eddie Sharp, who I adore. And he says, Brett, I need your help. And I said, okay. And I'm all about helping friends out, whether you believe out or not, it's true.

And I'm like, all right, man, what do you need? He's like, I need you to spot for this kid. He's coming in. He's got big sponsorship from Ruby Tuesdays. I know. I know. He just, I need a veteran like you to get up there and help him. I said, Eddie, man, I'm not doing a full schedule.

He said, Brett, it's not a full schedule. It's like eight arc of races that you can do. It's Michigan. It's Pocono. Of course, it's Daytona. We're going to give you $50 grand. I'm like, all. All right, Eddie, man.

I'm going to do this to help you out. But, you know, that's kind of this. That's the end of it. We're coming to the green at Daytona. Hey, uh, hey, Brett. Yeah, go ahead, Tim. Hey, uh, what geared I need to be in right here? I was like, oh, what, what have I got myself into right here?

And needless to say, that guy went on to win a Arka race when I was not spotting for him. He won a race where literally the spotter Kevin Hamlet at the time could not even see the car. I think they were poking out. It was foggy. It was so foggy. It was so foggy. Nobody could see the car to the guy won a race.

but a great guy. But I am too competitive to spot for a box. I had my, now that I think about it, when you go back to ARCA, for sure, I got to do like half a season with Milka Duno. And that was fun. Exciting. Mine was that kid.

He still runs some exfini now. We would, uh, coming off a turn four at Michigan. Just bleep his name out, Jason. We're coming off turn four in Michigan, and literally we look like we're pitting, and I'm like, yo, what are you doing? Usually when you need to throttle up so it carries you out to the wall, because that's like what your moment, you just do that. If you throttle up and you not carry it up there, do it a little earlier next time. You throw it up and you have to lift. You did it too early.

No, we look like we're pitt. Finally, after about the fifth lap, I come on channel two. I'm good on two if you didn't know. I come on channel two, and I'm like, all right, look, I can't tell them. anymore. Like, I'm done with it. This isn't going to happen. I'm just going to make sure we don't die. You should have been like, this is a really long straightaway, wide open now. If you don't come off the corner at a place like Michigan and you're not going to the wall and you don't naturally know how to do that, you probably shouldn't be in a race car.

We were at Michigan in the Arker car and Chase was running. This was years ago, obviously, like 12, 13, something like that. And Chase, we were so slow. Elliot? Yeah, Elliot. He went by us around the outside. and we spun right out. I'm talking like, instantly spun right out. And she's like, who hit me? I said, nobody. You remember what Chase's car, Arka cars used to look like?

They were like Jimmy's old Ford. I wish we had this. Go ahead. I'm sorry. I got some of my mind. We almost, and we had talked about it, and I don't know why. We should have tweeted about her,

did like a go-fund me, but them cars after Chase was done just sat in the shop. And they're probably, I don't think they've run since. Probably not. We talked about, Del Jr. had mentioned like, man, we should put you in that art, we should get that arc car and run you in one time.

I'm like, let's do it, man. One time. I wish we could get it. I wish we could like literally FaceTime Joel Edmunds right now. Oh, I was going to bring. Because my favorite spotter spotting for a sucky driver moment, hands down was at Richmond when Nur Ali rolled out there in the Bush series.

And oh, holy cow, this guy was like 19 seconds off. And we were lapping this guy and practice. That's how slow he was. And Joel has a personality worse than mine. And I look down there and his face, his fuming red, everybody's screaming at him to get the fuck out of the way. That was hands down. Remember he had pitting? He hit pit road from like the third group and just cut right down. We're all like, whoa, whoa, whoa, wow, you could hear the whole group. NASCAR finally pulled him out and said, you got to, you got to go, bud. You can't, you can't compete here. Joel, that's a you remember that? I remember the, I think it was the archo

fish where something went up to Joel one time. And his guy wasn't. He was in Michigan. It was Michigan Archer Race. Joel had a guy, and the guy did the opposite of what Joel said. I don't think the guy could hear him, first of all. And we were blowing by him like 19-mile an hour faster as well. And finally, the archivist goes out and he was like, hey, and he pulls Joel's like, don't you ever done?

Like flipped out. Joel's the best. Yeah, yeah, he's awesome. Spot on, spot off. Indy car runs its season opener at the same time as the Cup race at Richmond, which is why my husband decided to have his phone and TV going on at the same time. Congratulations. Freddie.

I mean, this, I don't know who. We start a 3 o'clock every week now, so I would assume I would put this more on IndyCar than NASCAR, but this was real dumb, like real dumb on IndyCar's part because you got a, you got an opportunity to steal some NASCAR fans, Jimmy Johnson's first race, you know. Your first race of the year? Your first race of the year. You've got an opportunity. I'm going to, oh, great, you know, we got Jimmy Johnson.

We can steal a part of this NASCAR audience and maybe retain them if we put on a good show. You have some of our NASCAR media covering the IndyCar race like the Jennifer Fryer. And you have it laid out perfect with the Formula One race out. It was in the morning. It was 9, 10 o'clock. Ends it at noonish. You can run your race between 1 and 3 when we run and then go right to NASCAR, make it a day of Monaco day where you've got a full day of NASCAR. But somebody definitely dropped the ball here on this one. I don't know what the thought process was there. Somebody should be fired for this. I mean, this is a huge miss on the Indy Cars part. I mean, I'm sorry, man.

Look, their average ratings, I think, are like 300,000, 400,000 viewers outside of the Indy 500 weekend. So this is an opportunity to go and really grow their brand and get some more interest. I think their cars look amazing. I think their races are fun to watch. I'm a huge IndyCar supporter. And I hated the fact that in my living room, I wasn't able to have both races on at one time. And it's unfortunate. I did flip over because I saw a tweet.

from Doug Rice, who president PRN, you guys hear him call the races a lot. I saw a tweet about, well, that didn't take long. So I was curious, I flipped over, and they had wrecked about 12 of cars. It basically looked like some of- I didn't see anything from it yet. They wrecked a lot of cars.

Oh, yeah. It looked like I wrecked at Richmond, where everybody wrecked and they just piled in. Like the first guy spun out. Look like Ner Ali made an indie car start. Yes, the first guy spun out, and he never changed lanes spinning out. So the guy that was coming at him just literally teebonning.

Once he hit him, boy, cars went everywhere. What that's like. What a huge miss? and just what an unfortunate situation to put yourselves in. I mean, I know there's a lot of smart people over there working on this program now because I personally know them. And it's frustrating to see that someone had the authority to screw this up this bad. I don't know what the logistics are behind it,

but I was super interested into the start of this indie car season as well, not only just because Penske has a lot of cars in it, but there's a lot of young guys that are, it's getting exciting. You got guys entering the series from all over the place, and I just think it's going to make it good, man. I was interested in seeing, and I couldn't really catch any of it, but definitely weird to have to start at the same time. They had a first-time winner, too.

I don't remember. Yeah, Pailu? Paylu. I don't know who he is, but. I spotted... I would have if I could watch race. So I spotted virtual windy car races last year from McLaughlin when they did that, and some of these guys on I racing are...

I remember one of the broadcasts. They were wearing each other down. before we took the green one time. And I knew this IndyCar season would be great from that. Coming up next, one of the funniest, most crazy personalities in all of the sport. The kid literally grew up with legends. Mr. John Wood will be joining us here shortly. Two-time truck series winner, current social media manager.

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But welcome to the podcast, Mr. John Wood. So I have to clear up a couple of things. Oh, God. What was good? The part where you said that I burnt up a rental car coming home from Bristol, there's no truth to that. There is. None.

It was Memphis. It was Memphis. Like, I mean, you're sitting here defaming me. Get right. So that's why we brought you on here. And I don't want to bring you on here to completely telling yourself. But I was told the story goes. that you literally rode the brakes on this rental car to the point that it finally caught on fire.

Yeah, that's pretty accurate. Let me preface by saying, like today I'm pretty mellow. I don't ever cause trouble, but there was a period of time that things were bad. And that was during that era. And I don't know what got in my mind that I wanted to see what would happen. I just did it. And they, they caught them fire.

I don't, I don't remember if it was both the fronts and the rears, but I do remember a fire. And there was a kid on my, it was actually, I was racing Xfinity at the time, and we both got out and was like, what are we going to do?

I mean, this thing's on fire. Plus some more rear brake in it. But you know how the rental cars are. I mean, they got so much front that you, I mean, yeah,

they're about to a headstand. But the second thing that I have to clear up, So you said that I did a burnout at the shop and blew the rear tires out in the van. No truth to that one either. It was in my mom and dad's driveway. But that happened. And I have proof. Here's the rubber from the tire.

Brought that home with me last week just for proof's sake. But I terrorized Stewart, Virginia. It was lost. You know, most, you're a. pretty good example here. Most good stories start with bad decisions, right? Yeah, yeah. They're probably glad I'm gone. But the final one, and I don't want to talk too much about the bad stuff I did, but I told this one as terrible as it is at my grandpa's funeral. And this kind of just goes to the point of what a good guy he was and how awesome he was. So once upon a time, another van story. I got back up

to Stewart after a truck race or something, and my buddies would always wait, and I would get there late Saturday night or whatever it was, and then we just all hell would break loose. And it was always in a van. And I don't know why. There's no rhyme or reason. It just happened. So we get in the van, and I had the right idea to go on the four-wheeler trails behind my mom and dad's house. It's, I don't know, maybe a mile or something, but it's very narrow. It would just fit a four-wheeler, not a 15-passenger van, but I did it anyway. So we're cutting laps, ripping it up, and I got stuck. I don't remember how, but a van gets stuck.

We all have to walk back home next day. Brett, do you remember Jabbo? Oh, yeah. Oh, wow. Yeah, I got ripped more miles up and out of the road carrying race cars than anybody I knew. So Jabbo was, Jabbo owns a record conglomerate, and it's like an empire. I mean, this dude is like printing money with his record business. So back then, whenever I would wreck something or tear something up,

hey, Jabbo, what are you doing? And he'd just laugh. It's the funniest thing. I'll be up there in a minute. I wouldn't even have to tell him what had happened. It was always, I'll be there in a minute. And it was either a regular wrecker or a regular wrecker, or if it was bad, it'd be a rollback.

Well, in this case, it was a four-wheel drive army wrecker with a boom. It had a boom on the back that could, like, rotate around. So I call him up and I said, hey, I got the van stuff. well, I'm kind of dancing all around. Next morning I'll wake up. First off, wake up and I'm like, please tell me this was a dream. No, it wasn't a dream. It's called Jabbo.

Jabbo, come get the van. Meanwhile, my grandpa is on his gator, tending to the garden. He finds a license plate. And I don't even know, I don't even remember being in this part of the neighborhood. I don't know how it happened. And maybe it wasn't even me.

But he finds a license plate, takes it to the sheriff's, office and just being a nice guy to turn it in and they're like, Mr. Wood, we don't really know how to tell you this, but this license plate belongs to you. It goes on a van. So I catch wind of this and I'm like, oh, this is going to be bad. So I go up to my grandmas and my grandma and grandpas, they're there. Meanwhile, now keep in mind, Jabbo's bringing the Army four-wheel drive record to get the van out of the woods in their backyard. So I go in, I'm ready to take my beating, and he's like, I'm not even mad. I just want to know how you didn't turn over, flip upside down,

because I found this in a culvert. So end of the story, no idea how I straddled that culvert. He wasn't mad. Cool as could be about it. But don't even know if he ever knew that the van was in the woods, but neither here nor there. It was awful, man. man, I'm telling you. So we're going to be there in a couple hours in a van. You want to go for a ride? I'm done with vans. I'm done.

It's PSD when he pulls in the garage and sees all the three-passenger van sitting there. Wow, that's awesome. So you now run, you do a lot of things at Webbrose, right? But you run their social media, right? Well, it depends. I think we can tell. Depends on who's asking. If it's somebody from NASCAR, I don't know who does it.

But if it's you, yeah, yeah, it's me. Don't say anything because they listen. We found that out. Yeah, we found it out that they listened. And they read social media too, let me tell you. Oh, I'm very well aware that they read social media, trust me. Well, you know, Brett's blocked him anyway. I can't block them all, TJ.

They keep coming at me. So, John, you've done some crazy stuff. You touched on some of it. How in the hell did you get pulled over that time for flying an airplane out your sunroof? You've been talking to my sister. I know you've been talking to somebody to get these stories. I've got insiders. Yeah.

Actually, I might have touched on that one last week anyway, because I'm into RC planes now, and I hit the roof of the museum last weekend, and that was not fun. But it reminded me of when I was younger again and decided, So the planes I had at the time were a little, like, you get kind of bored after a while. It just flying around. So I wanted to see if I could fly it.

So it was two different times. I wanted to see if I could land it on the hood of Kevin's car while we were driving down the road. Kevin being your cousin, Kevin. Kevin would, like an aircraft carrier. Well, we end up running over the plane. It didn't work out. And I ended up having to not only the plane up, but I had to buy him a new hood on his whatever car it was. at the time because it scratched the hood up.

But the other time, I was standing out of the sunroof of a Hummer. Kevin driving again on that time, and it's in Stewart. I'm just, I don't know what the end game was, but we were just trying to drive around town while I'm flying the plane. And, of course, we get pulled over. So the problem was it wasn't so much time standing out of the sunroof, that's bad enough. But what do I do with this plane now that's in the air while this trooper is coming up

wanting to know why I'm standing out of the sunroof? so I just guessed at it and it's like we're the ground is way over there somewhere so just crashed it and I don't even know if we had I guess I had to admit what I was doing but um don't think we got a ticket for that probably because there's no law I mean what are they going to say well see felt yeah but no I mean it's it I don't know yes I did all that stuff and uh live to tell the tail so you I I don't know how your dad has survived it. Eddie Wood is one of the funniest people in a garage.

And he's one of the reasons I've made it or I've made it. I don't know where the hell I've made it, John, but your dad certainly helped me get here. Is Riley going to pay you back your kid? Is he going to pay you back for all this crap you did, Eddie? He, it's already, I'm being paid back in spades. It's, uh, I, well, that TV behind me that you see. Yeah.

He had some kind of toy. I don't know, this is a couple years ago, but he, had a toy and threw it, hit the TV, and it just went black. Just black, $3,000 gone. So, yeah, it's, it's tough. So you're going to get paid back. At least you didn't find the remote out by the garden. Well, that's true too.

Yeah. Yeah. I don't know, but I'm good now, man. I'm good. I'm helping run the team. It's funny because before I would do. what I was told. And now that I own part of the team, it's like I do what I think needs to be done. And it's just a different kind of feel. So took some growing up, but if you haven't figured out

already, guys, just listen to these stories, this is an account you need to follow. The Woodbrothers Twitter account especially is one of my favorites. How many times, and I've been through this myself, I know Brett probably hasn't because he's an idiot, but how many times have you typed something out and you're like, I definitely should not be posted. I should not hit sin, but I'm going to go for it anyway. I usually don't have the self-control. Like yesterday, for instance, so I just can't help myself. So Newman is racing mad.

Newman's five laps down. And Ryan Newman's a great dude. Don't get me wrong. But passing Ryan Newman is like trying to pass a house. I mean, you just can't, you just can't do it. Like, that dude is 50 feet wide and fast. It's funny how. His car's wide too.

Yeah. Matt's actually for once on the lead lap at Richmond. I don't say Matt, I say us. We were for once in like thousands of years on the lead lap at the end of the race in Richmond. And Ryan's racing him like it's for the lead two to go and he's a bunch of laps down. So of course I have to tweet about it and throw off on Ryan. And then I'm like, God, why did I say that? And by that time it's too late. If I delete it, then I get owned and I'm like this horrible thing. person. So you're like, if you're going to tweet it, stick with it. You got to stick with it. Yeah. If you delete it, you're your spineless and then they get you twice because they take screenshots of what you posted. So it doesn't go anywhere. It's still not deleted. But then they, they beat you up for deleting it. What did you say? I didn't read it. Freddy's got it. I'm going back now to find it. Something. It wasn't even all that bad. But I mean, I've, I've had my, my meetings with, I'm not going to say who, but not my dad and not. not anybody with the team or anything, but certain people said, chill out.

And I just, I can't help it because it's like I'm, I'm emotionally, and I told this to Jeff Gluck, I'm emotionally invested, vested, whatever the word is in the team. It's not like I'm just an employee and like I don't care. So I get riled up and mad and if things don't go right, I probably say the things I shouldn't say, but I'm saying the things that you know that I'm thinking. And that's, I don't know. I think your perspective, though, for social media is a lot different than most social media accounts, right? Because obviously, you've grown up in the sport.

I mean, you're the grandson of a Hall of Famer. You're, you know, the nephew of a Hall of Famer. You have literally, you don't know anything but NASCAR. You've run truck series races. You've won. You've been in the Xfinity series. You've been in the Cup Series races. Like, your perspective should be, quite honestly, a privilege to your readers versus being judged by some of your critics, it sounds like.

it is and that that's a good point but most people don't even know that it's me and I don't that that's fine I don't care and it was just by by luck that I not really luck but unluck that I took over the account my sister was doing it and she had to go to a wedding I I had I wanted nothing to do with social media for years and years and years so she has to go to a wedding and I had to do it and I didn't know my asses him to hole in the ground when it came to social media so I just started saying what I was seeing. And people kind of liked it and got compliments. And so one race turned into two and two to four.

And then I just kept doing it. Yeah, I think I know a little bit about it and about the sport. But I just try to be honest and I try to be truthful. And a lot of times, 99 times out of 100 that works out good. But there's one time that I'll say something about it. There's that one time you're going to flip your mom's VW out through the woods that nobody's got to find out about. Right. See, why you got to be bringing up all those bad stuff?

You make you not to do like a heat dinner or something. Hey, before we let you jump out of here, I got to ask you, how many times a year does John Wood eat at Chick-fil-A? How many times does the sun come up? How many times does the wind blow? Hold on. This guy has a huge Chick-fil-A addiction. More than anybody I ever know, and I love Chick-fil-A. He needs to get a franchise in Moorsville. that's how many points I've got he's got 160,000 points

that's enough for like 500 chicken sandwiches or something I was gonna say you only get one point per chicken sandwich probably jeez oh man if I was gonna do a deal last year where I just made them make all 500 at once and then I was gonna give them to like homeless and hungry people and stuff during the pandemic and they wouldn't do it so yeah well 160,000 points that's that's insane well man we appreciate you jumping on. We won't, uh, well, next time before I tell John Wood story, I'll make sure I got it

fully right and said I have right. Yep, get your facts straight. Half right's pretty good too. I'd go with half. That's all right. Go follow the Wood brothers on Twitter right now. You imagine the stories that we can't tell? Oh, my dad was really nervous about me doing this. So I think I've lived up to his expectations and not made us look too terrible. No, not bad at all. I love you, man. I love your family. Like I said, I wouldn't be here without you guys. So best of luck to the Woodbrothers the rest of the year. We're pulling for Matt D.

And obviously you guys have a lot of big things coming in the future next year with Mr. Cendrick. So good stuff, John. Thanks for coming on, brother. Yeah. Good run yesterday too. Thank you. You guys have a good one.

All right, man. See you. Reaction theater. Call number one. I don't know about you, but what a fucking race to watch today. It was awesome watching a Chevy win at Toyota's race. Take that pretty guy. Suck it.

Yes, sir. It's always a good day whenever I'll tell you all to lose this. So tell you, freaking cry, baby, boss, Denny. Wee, we, we, we, we. Go home, buddy. Go home. Billy sounds like I did last week. Billy, call back next week.

I like you. Call number two. Hey, Quentin Huff. Get off the damn track. Get out of the damn way. This idiot ain't qualified to push a buggy at Walmart. Why the heck he thinks he can drive a race car? Two laps to go and you're in the friggin' way of the leader.

about wipe him out and Denny Hamill. What an idiot. It's Halve, apparently. Everybody keeps telling me we're saying it wrong, but I feel like everybody thinks his huff now is going to us. Dude, that guy, listen, Quinn doesn't get much of an opportunity to shine. And if he feels comfortable at Richmond and he wants to race hard, race hard, man. He didn't do anything.

He just raced hard. Go with it. He's drunker and I am. I was. I mean, I was aggravated at him, too, but how do you get mad at a guy for racing? Because he's not racing. Are you sure he's racing? He raced something?

Who do he beat? Where did he finish? Is he racing or riding? He's driving. He's driving. He's not racing. Yeah, he's doing. Whatever he's doing in there.

Finish 34th. Solid. Beat what? Three cars? How many started? Well, I don't think Justin Haley even took the green. I mean, as soon as I got turned to race on, he was out. He wasn't prepared.

He was what? He blew up on the initial start. Yeah. Like I said, I mean, so you didn't race that guy. That's not Quinn's fault. The other two guys behind. Quinn didn't get in there and shift that car. Quinn didn't shift that thing.

I want to know when he races somebody. I want somebody to send me a video of him racing. That's why I was really disappointed when he didn't get to start on the pole of Bristol. He too. I know. I told you we all got screwed by that. The two most disappointed people. We were getting a show about Bristol.

It was number one, Matt D. Benedetto, because it was dirt. Because he's actually good there on concrete. And then Quinn Hough, who missed his opportunity to start from the pole. We were robbed of a great heat race. We were. I'm sorry. I was just choking. Not who else choked.

Any Hamlin. At the end of every race. Sorry, Freddie. This didn't happen today. TJ, you suck. Damn. I thought she was vomiting. I didn't know what was going on there.

I think I was a guy. His name was Jonah. Oh. Well, I thought Jonah was gagging. You never know. Might be choking on something. Jonah. Next one.

Recorded me. Brett? This is definitely Brett. 100%. Just Skyrocketed me. Does it off. Can you do that? I want to hear you snore like that.

Is that the whole call? Yeah, that was it. That was definitely Britt. That was not me. I swear, I'm all my anything's life. That was not me. Richmond, I tell you, the race had its moments, but watching, I tell you when it was interesting is watching the cars.

It's moments the last three minutes of the race. Watching the two try to one-stop it. or not stop at all. You know what I mean? That was brilliant. But it was interesting to watch at the time. You weren't really sure how it was going to for him. Yeah.

Oh, it didn't. I was sure how it was going to turn out because I've done that before with somebody. And it turned out exactly like it turned out for the two and the 23. If it goes long. It didn't work. Oh, my gosh. He was so slow off the quarter. Yeah, Matthew, I think he broke into my house and recorded me during the race.

Hey, TJ, all these years, I thought it was your driver. I was incompetent behind the wheel. Nope, it turns out Sheardless and competent Spawning after what it looks like From seeing Haley Deegan After this damn truck race Wow, all these years

I thought I was Joey But it turns out it was you Good job destroying all these nice trucks, TJ You suck Really have no idea what he's talking about He must not watch the race He doesn't like rapper T.J I don't know

Why don't you come back with some facts Brent So is it just me or does Brett run his Twitter account like Vladimir Putin runs a country? You say one wrong word to the fearless leader and you're gone forever. Casey? Hey go. Casey, any comments on this?

What's your Twitter handle, Daniel? Brett just blocked every Daniel on Twitter. When I went to look last week, I was actually surprised because I didn't think it would be 700 or something. I knew it was 7.00. I knew. I guess 7.09. Did you look at the reason? I didn't know how to look.

could you see the people who commented on my tweet as to why you were you blocked? Probably not most of them. No, he can because he's got a block. You probably had a few people you blocked yesterday after you tweeted at me. Solid chance. You got to look and see. So in that number, 700 and whatever. I didn't know I could look at the number.

But you also got to look in there because it'll tell you how many you've blocked and then how many have actually blocked you. Oh, nice. So that's included in that number. Oh. Go ahead. While Brett looks that up, we'll listen to Jared. Hey Brett, TJ, Freddie, y'all inspired us to start betting on these races.

We just won $3,400 on Alex Bowman on this man's bachelor party. Let's get it. Halla, yeah, yeah. I want to party with that guy. We're going to turn into a gambling podcast in a sport. We're not allowed to gamble in. I want to party with that guy. Oh, these are good.

To leave an audio message 24-7. I told you all gamo was fun. You heard him. Not allowed. I wish I could. To leave an audio message 24-7, go to anchor.fm backslash door bumper clear and click the message icon. We'll keep playing the best ones each week. Offerpad question of the week.

Time for the offer-back question of the week. What's your backyard set up like? Do you have a grill, a pool, a swing set, back porch? Tell us, Brett. I think my lot's like acre and some change. My backyard has two porches, a screening porch, an open-air porch. Then it's got a concrete, like, stone patio. With a fireplace.

And then I got a lot of landmines in my grass from my three dogs that live there. And I just built a fire pit out back. So no pool. There's too many pine trees in my backyard. Everybody in my house wants a pool, but I keep saying no, because those pine trees are constantly dropping pine combs and pine straw, and there's no way I have enough time to keep that pool. They drop pine needles.

Pine needles. Long leaf pine needles are my favorite. We call it pine straw at South Carolina. Until I moved down here, I never saw anything like. They just, New York, Long Island anyway, like you do everything you can to get rid of pine straw. Down here, people use it to like decorate. I'm like, are you kidding me? Like get this out of my house. You got to pay for it too. Like my backyard, I got a smoker, a grill, a stone patio, and then the biggest hill you've ever seen that I got to try to get cleared out of weeds

because I can't walk up and down it. But, yeah, I'm told Megan I'm building a pool, but I'm making it like just big enough for me, like a four-by-four pool. You get that at Walmart. No, no, it's got to be in ground. I want to be nice. I bet your master bathroom has one of them.

I just want one that I can dive in myself. That's it. Nobody else needs to go over. Put a tub back there. Can you dive first time? Oh, yeah. I mean, look at me. I look like, I can do the triple Lindy.

You're Roddy Dangerfield? DJ. Back deck, grill. I'm going to get a smoker to put out there. A little nice grass area, back to some wooded area that's all cleaned out. Kids go back there and make forts and stuff. So pretty basic. Standard.

Yeah. I love being outside. I got to put a fence up. I know. I just want to sit in my backyard, honestly, all day. Last week I wouldn't go outside. It looked like a... Some reason, I had allergies.

super bad last year. My truck used to be silver. Now it's yellow. I got a fence, but my dogs are so little they can get between the railings. So now I have a mesh. Hold on. One of the first time, not the first time I went over there, but one of the first times I was over there, all Brett's dogs come in.

They look like they were in a severe car accident because they've all got, like, imagine the neck collar you wear when you get whiplash or something. All his dogs are wearing these neck collars because it prevented them from being able to get through the fence. Are you serious? Oh, my God. They were leaving. You're supposed to do something to the fence, not to the dogs. I look over it.

I'm like, there must have been a hell of a car wreck here. They can wear a bumper. They didn't hurt him to wear a bumper to wear out and pee. One of them so little, though it made her back legs come off the ground while she was walking. But I had to put this mesh up around the fence to keep them in the yard. So good times. I know. It's that time again where we discuss our favorite X-Finity X-Fi more than fast moments.

Whether you're on or off the track, speed isn't the only thing you need. So where did we see teams? be more than fast this week. Brett. Alex Bowman, man, that guy had speed. Clint Boyer called him out on TV with about 50 or 60 laps left in a race and said, man, I think this guy's one of the fastest cars out there. Obviously, when he came in, his crew made the right adjustments to give him the short run speed

that I thought Lugano had had all day. But Bowman trumped him, man, won the race. Yeah, I was unfortunate because my boss, man, Denny Hamlin, his pickery, man. What a unbelievable job they did. Two stage wins probably due to pit stops getting off pit road first. Put him in position with, I don't know, 10, 11 laps to go to win the race. And unfortunately, he couldn't close a deal, but awesome job by that pick crew all day. Yeah, I got to go with Truex serving his penalty and not going a lap down.

That's pretty hard to do at Richmond, and he was able to come back for a top five finish. Here on Doorbopper Clear, being more than fast is literally a way of life. Thankfully, there's plenty of weekly action for our X-Finity X-5, more than fast moments. You know what else is more than fast? Xfinity X-Fi. With the speed for all your devices, you also get the reliability and security that keeps your crew connected and protected.

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Thank you to Xfinity. Proud premier partner of NASCAR. It is time for Fast Lane. Our weekly segment where we expose the intelligence levels of our panel of spotters by having them compete in a speed trivia contest. Brett, you are up first. Which driver finished second in the first two stages on Sunday?

Martin Truex. How many lead changes occurred on Sunday? Nine. What app does Freddie use the most on his phone? You porn. I got an app? Twitter. Which is an island?

Lose it. Nope. Which is an island? Honduras, Nicaragua, or Jamaica? Island, Jamaica. If someone answers 20 of 25 questions right on the test, what percentage would they get? Damn, that's kind of tough. 20 out of 25.

So they miss 5 out of 25. What is 20? That is 80. Good job, Brett. You got 3 out of 6. Let's go. This is an island. Of course it's a freaking island.

There are 20 lead changes on Sunday, and Freddie uses Twitter. Green flag stops. I was sleeping during that. Brett probably like. We heard. Brett probably told Jason you to make it easier. Freddie uses Twitter the most. Ready, Freddy?

Sure. That rhymed. First time I've heard that. First question. How many laps has Bubba Wallace led in his cup career at Talladega? 30. How many? runner-up finishes does Denny Hamlin have in 2021?

Three. What app does TJ use the most on his phone? Instagram. Which measures less than 90 degrees, an acute, straight, or obtuse angle? Acute. How many U.S. dates start with the letter? Thanks, I've been working out. M.

M? Yeah. Four. So you got one right. Bubba's led 17 laps at Talladega. Denny's only finished running up once, which was on Sunday. T.J. uses Web Bowl. Is that he pronounced to T.J.?

Wee bowl. Yeah. What is that? What is that? What is trading. Stock stuff. Oh. You make any money lately?

Doge coin. You're damn right. I made some money on that. I bought that stuff at 06. It went to 40 almost. Ooh. Yeah. We're doing good.

TJ, you ready? There's eight states that started with the letter in. Damn. It's way more than I thought. Better sell it. I already made my money back. I was playing with profits now. How many points did Joey Logano score on Sunday?

18. Name one of two drivers that scored their first, their best finish of the season on Sunday. Alex Bowman. What app does Brett use the most on his phone? Twitter. Block. Yeah, I mean, his block list says otherwise.

Before reunification, what divided East Germany from West Germany. Mississippi? I'm just kidding. He's already wrong. What's the warmest temperature ever recorded in the U.S.? 120. All right, congratulations, Brett you won. Joey scored 50 points on Sunday.

Brett uses the directions or maps out the most. The Berlin Wall separated East Germany and West Germany, and 134 degrees is the hottest. Damn, it's hot. I feel like we've had a couple races like that. Hey, what's up, DBC fans? If you haven't heard about Anchor, it's the easiest way to make a podcast. Let us explain.

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That's A-N-C-H-O-R-F-M to get started. Ready for What an Idiot. Better not be me this week. Oh, there goes mine. Just you gave it away. What did I do? Brett, who you got? I have whoever made the decision to run the Indy car against a NASCAR race.

I just will not ever understand who, when, where, why, how that happened. So what an idiot. Unfortunately, I had one picked out. love my one. But on the way here, I told you about another one. My one guy that I picked out for this weekend is something we talked about last week. My wood to eat for the week was going to be Ryan Reed. For whatever reason he thought that he should have gotten that 49 truck on Saturday and go 37 laps down just to be out there. I mean, Ryan Reed is a heck of a race car driver. One multiple races at Daytona. And like we talked about, like why do decent or good drivers

come back and just get in terrible cars or trucks. So I don't understand that. But then my new one idiot is whoever's running the NASCAR Roots account that just retweeted earlier this morning that Stafford Speedway is running a weekly program when the biggest news of the offseason was Stafford was leaving NASCAR. So I don't know. I'm sticking with Ryan Reed, but that was a good runner-rout for this morning.

I got to go. It's good. You're probably not going to know a lot about it with the guy that the second driver or the first driver, I don't know what he is, that the Stewart Hoss, Formula One stable that just keeps spinning out by himself that now they're putting,

they're labeling things on Google Maps, like his, Mazopin. Yeah, he's just like, he's got things on Google, like, Mazepin's spinning number one's over here, and then over here you got spit, like, I guess he's having a lot of issues. The way I look at it, like, I think that this guy, the way, I don't

understand a lot about Formula One racing, obviously, but it seems to me like, this is one of the guys now that is my dad's loaded so he bought me a Formula One ride like I don't feel like that happens a lot but I'm pretty sure that like Haas was kind of starving for money

and this guy's got tons of it so he's the man now he's the he's a Formula One driver he's definitely the man that was one of the an exciting Formula One race too though with Hamilton crashing he doesn't do that very often yeah I watched most of it

yeah more entertainment more entertainment in Richmond yeah that's for sure Time for DBC picks. Already? Yes, Brett, you won. Let's go. Joey Lugano picked paid off.

Now you're catching Freddy, you're only down to one. I tell you, man, I knew it was going to be a battle between me and Freddie because Martin was solid in the beginning of that race. And Joy was up there, and T.J. had picked Kyle Busch, who I originally was going to pick for last week, so I'm glad T.J. picked him first. So we're off Talladega where anything can happen, and it looks like T. TJ gets to go first. Yeah. You could just literally put your finger down and hope it's right. Shush up, Casey. That's enough out of you. You don't show up early enough to be able to say these comments. I am going to go with Ricky Stenhouse, Jr.

I'm sorry, going to lock you out here, Brett. You cannot take a JTG car because I'm going to take Ryan Priest. Solid picks, boys. I wasn't going to pick either one of those guys. I'm going with somebody that's not even on our sheet to pick from. He's making his debut in the Cup series this weekend. He's running an offer pad colors on Saturday. The Dex Imaging Colors on Sunday. I'm going with Harrison Burton. How do you pick somebody that's not on the list?

Because Jason doesn't update the list. Jason doesn't fix the list for the entry list. I don't think to put on. Harrison Burton is in the house. I'm happy for that kid, man. Maybe we should get him on show Monday, ask him what it's like. I still talk to his dad, Jeff, all the time.

obviously have been working with Harrison. We've got a photo shoot tomorrow with Harrison. Freddie, if you want to come to take some pictures with him. He's run a ton of races and a ton of cars. I think it's going to be a damn good weekend for him. All right. Well, what can fans look for at Talladega this weekend? A big one in the three at some point.

I'm excited to go back to the track. And this was always my favorite Talladega race is the first race because the second race we're competing with football and college football in that area is so big. I mean, you've got Alabama, Auburn, You know, Knoxville, they're all close to there. So I feel like when we go in the spring, we're the biggest thing there. And I'm excited, man.

I don't know where I'm staying. I don't know when I'm leaving. But I think fans can expect what you always get at Talladega, which is a hell of a good time. Are there camping restrictions in place, I'm assuming. I don't. I'm sure there's some restrictions. I don't know.

I mean, last year they could have, there was, you were able to have campers on Talladega Boulevard. The team just couldn't go down there. I'm fully vaccinated. Have I mentioned that? Yeah, I mentioned it. I think I'm good. I forgot about something I really wanted to ran about. And it was from Richmond, because there wasn't a lot to talk about it, Richmond.

But TJ, I think, will back me up on this. They butchered the Choose Cone a couple times in this race. Like, one time not moving penalty cars. The next time was they went one to go and didn't move the lap cars. We're in the middle of three and four, and there's a ton of lap cars mixed in, and they didn't move any of us. And so now we're trying to get slowed up, but the field's, We're in the middle. We're running like eighth across the line.

They're choosing outside of us. Now, we don't get to choose because we're all past the damn choose cone before we're at the back of where it need to be. It's just, it's, I get it's a learning process, but you cannot make mistakes. Last week they made up, they penalized the 12 in the middle of the choose process. Like, listen, I understand. You're going to make mistakes. But when you do make a mistake, let's just scrap it and try again. Don't try to correct it.

And now, like, we're coming to green down the backstretch and there's a couple of lead lab guys. They had a trap behind lap down guys, and it was a disaster a couple times yesterday. Who was calling race yesterday? Dousan. Yeah, and there's at Bristol, Martinsville, and Richmond, you have very little time to organize the lineup, especially with penalty cars, things like that. So we've talked about it before, which I don't know if it's going to be the right fix or not, but two to go.

All right, guys, we're going two to go this time. if you have a penalty or you're not a lead lap, start dropping back, get the lead lap cars that pitted up behind the lot ones that didn't pit. Give yourself a complete lap to do that. And I think they were doing a decent, like yesterday they were, they were waving the guys around down the front stretch, and then off of two when they were getting ready to say one to go or in the middle of one or two, or even a lap before sometimes in the truck race,

they were saying, okay, you know, this truck, this truck, this truck's a lap down, start working your way to the bottom, get to the back. But for whatever reason, I don't know if they were in some kind of rush, on some kind of TV window, but they never said anything to the lap cars, and we were all right, it was when we had that big wave around when we all got caught in the middle of that yellow flag stop.

So now everybody's staying out, and Truex had a big gap with a bunch of lap cars in between them, and now we just got into a mess where all the lap down, leave that guys are at the back because they pit. You can't choose when there's a line of cars that are half blocking the bottom lane a little bit

because you don't even know who's picking, like you don't know who's choosing. It's, yeah, you know, you can't choose if you don't have a single line of cars in the correct order. So how do you honestly think that they're comfortable black flagging drivers like they did at Martinsville when they're not getting the process right? Like once you get it perfected and once all the things are in place, I'm fine with you enforcing it. We were texting with Bob Pockers last week who sent Freddie and I rule that essentially said if you are impeding the choose process, you can be black flagged. However, it didn't say black flagged. It says you cannot impede the choose process.

But if they're screwing it up that bad at short tracks, you've got to stop the lap count, reset the cars, get everything back right, and fix it. We have enough technology now to do that. Yeah, and listen, it's going to take you one lap. You don't need to even stop the lap count. Just say, hold on, wait a minute. This isn't right.

Single file, here's your lineup. Get the lap ground cars behind the last guy in lead lap. All right, you're choosing this time. You know, but it's just like they get in a rush sometimes and they forget that it's, and they've said this, and it drives me insane when they say it. They make it sound like it's just a piece of cake. Like, oh, we just roll up here and choose pick a lane.

And there's way more time and effort that we put into it. Our teams put into it. I've got, I get pages of data every week that say, you know, the retention rate on this line at this time when you choose this lane. But, you know, so it's not as easy as just, hey, guys, get in order and we're going to pick this time. Like, there's a lot of stuff that goes into it. But like I said, if there's a mistake made or, or, or, or, You kind of rush it and things get screwed up.

Let's just bail out, redo it. I like choosing. I like picking your own failure. And I get it. It's not. It's not, trust me. I've been in that tower before at short tracks, and I see all the stuff that goes into it. There's so much going on there.

And it's not easy by any means. But when we do make a mistake, let's just stop, punt. Let's try again. You know, don't just try to rectify the mistake and end up screwing two or three guys. When you run a track like Martinsville and Richmond and Bristol, we're running almost 40 cars at short tracks across America where this where they do this they have 15 18 cars it's easier to do it's not an issue but when you're trying to line and not to mention I mean this is this is the top yeah this is it this is the top Saturday they they go quickie yellow so

now there's a handful of lead lab guys that pit well they're on pit road we're coming off of two they're like all right choose this time so now there's four or five guys that leave pit road on Saturday that are half a track behind everybody now they got to get caught up try to pass half the field that's a lap down and then choose. And you got guys that have penalties and they don't. Yeah, they don't lay all the way over. Well, that or they don't even, they don't even start doing it. They hope they forget about it.

You know what I mean? So they line up and then they catch it right at the end in a turn three. Oh, you got a penny mover. Well, that moves that whole lane up. That's not fair. You know, if that guy wasn't there, I might have taken his spot. Yeah. So, I don't know.

There's just, we can still. There's got to be mistakes, but there's better ways to fix them. All right. Well, thank you, as always, for listening. and to our presenting sponsor OfferPath. Don't forget to tweet us, like, comment, share, tell. Block. Tell Brett why you should not be blocked or should be blocked.

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