Door Bumper Clear - 215 – When No One Can See

Episode Date: May 24, 2021

After a wet and wild inaugural NASCAR race weekend at Circuit of the Americas, Freddie Kraft, TJ Majors, and Brett Griffin are dried off and fired up to talk about this weekend’s action from Austin, Texas.But first, hear about the spotters’ adventures in Austin and how some critters got the best of Brett and his rain pants. The combination of visiting a new facility and rainy conditions made spotting challenging. Hear where the spotters were placed around the course, what they could and couldn’t see, and what they hope to do differently next time.After NASCAR’s decision to end the race 14 laps early due to weather conditions, find out what the competitors thought of the timing of the decision and whether the race could have continued.Visibility was at an all-time low for drivers during the race and led to massive hits for Kevin Harvick and Martin Truex Jr. Both drivers expressed their frustration after the near rollover crashes ended their days early. Hear what the spotters thought after seeing those vicious impacts and what it says about safety in the sport today.Silly Season rumors have ramped up, as reports have Brad Keselowski accepting an owner/driver role with Roush-Fenway Racing for next season. The guys react to the news and what it means for Keselowski, Team Penske, and the future ownership model of the Cup Series.As car number placement continues to be a topic of discussion, the guys weigh in on the latest development and what they ultimately think should happen. Plus, find out why a decision is needed soon as teams hunt for sponsors.Ever seen a racecar driving down the highway? Well, if you live in Denver, N.C., you might have last week. Find out which team was pulled over for driving their car down the road and where the crew thinks they were headed.In Reaction Theatre, fans let Brett know he’s the greatest thing to walk the Earth, one fan gives NASCAR a tip, and someone gets creative with a sound effect.Plus, some incredible moments are discussed in the Xfinity xFi More Than Fast Moment segment, this week’s What an Idiot winners are announced and the guys look ahead to racing at Charlotte Motor Speedway. Want more DBC? Check out and subscribe to the new DBC YouTube channel! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Hey, what's up everybody? I'm Brett Griffin. You're listening to Door Bumper Clear. We're all back from spotting at Circuit of the Americas. And I'm all dried out. Today, we'll discuss NASCAR's decision to call the Cup Race early, veteran driver comments after the big hits and more talk about moving the damn car number.

Let's roll. Nobody's listening, but I don't care. I'm on an episode of Door Bumper Clear. Hey, everybody. I'm Tj Majors. It's part of the 22 cup of car, the one truck. And absent today. Brett Griffin is in the house.

Not Brett. Casey is actually Casey. We thought Casey was coming because we started to show five minutes late. Thanks to Super Sub-Hanna Newhouse. Congratulations on filling the f***ing shoes of being late. Yeah, I got to live up to the standards. You know, I hear that she's late every day. And so I just feel like if I shut up on time, it'd really just throw your routine off.

Yeah, that's fine. Spotted for Colleg Racing this weekend, finished 10th, with Get Ready Freddy over here, Jeff Burton, and I finished, I think, a fifth yesterday with Mr. A.J. Amaddinger in the pouring down rain. That's a good job, good job. Freddie Crafts, spotter for whatever's left of the 23 car. I had Jeb Burton on Saturday.

We had a pretty good day. I think we went into it thinking a top 10 was going to be a good day, and it was. Like I told Jeb, I said, there's six or seven guys ahead of you in this race that are either in the cup race or have one cup races before. So a top 10 with that crowd is a good day. and Krauss, man, we just can't, cannot figure out how to get through a race without a problem.

Apparently, it wasn't the crew chief. Well, I got to ask you this, because I actually went back to my hotel room and watched a little bit of stage one, took a nap, woke up. I was like, I got to get back to the racetrack, and you were running like third. And the truck race? Yeah. It must have been cycling or something. Okay. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

We stayed out at the end of a stage. You got some points. Okay. I saw you third, and then I saw you not third. Yeah. It was eventful. And it's still... What fell off this week?

I don't remember. The antenna? The radio antenna, maybe? I can't remember. Well, that's probably just never got put back on. The panic didn't fall off. It's just, it's just can't get through a race clean. And like we always talk about,

all you got to do is get... We harp on this with Bubba, and it just trickles down to any other series. But if you cannot get through a race clean, you're not going to run on the top ten. It's just not going to happen. So... Yeah.

I mean, it's pretty much how that goes. It is what it is, you know. Hannah, is that dirt in your eyes and hair? Yeah. Probably. Dirt? Yeah.

Did you go dirt racing this week? Yeah, I was in Port Royal all weekend. Yeah. It was fun. It was a lot of fun. And then came home just in time to watch the lovely race that you guys had yesterday that we will get into a little later. But yeah, anyways, I'm Hannah Newhouse filling in Fort Casey.

And good old Jason sent me the 9 o'clock text last night. What are you doing? Yeah. You come in the morning? Wait, Jason said you're what are you doing, Texas? 9 o'clock in the morning? What are you where? A nine o'clock at night?

Do you follow it up with what are you wearing? Do we need to tell Dylan about this? Way to go, Shultz. Yeah. Hey, you want a white claw? I do want to just let Freddie and T.J. know if you have a bad race on Sunday and the 600, we're having a small get-together party during the race,

so you can come right over and enjoy some white-cloth. I'll be there. A small get-together party. Well, you can say come right over. Where's that at? It's like five minutes from the Speedway. Who's we? Me and my friends.

You guys aren't going to the race? No. 600? Yeah. 10 hours long? I mean, $100. It's not that long. Mark Truax will make it like three and a half hours.

I know. Yeah. It's a crown jewel event, Jason. Okay. So Austin, Texas, TJ, you ever been Austin, Texas before? I have now. What did you think? Austin, Texas, the town, Austin, Texas.

Or did you see the town? No, by the time we got out, my, for something, like, from the time we got out of the racetrack, It was like eat dinner because I was there for Friday. We were there all day. And I waited for head to wait for Coleman. So we basically got out, got back, showered. We ate at some little Mexican place near the hotel airport area, which was really good, actually.

There's thousands of those. Oh, my. I love it. I love it. Because I love Mexican food. It looks sketchy when we got there. And Coleman's like, well, it has all these great reviews on Yelp. So it must be good.

We got things like, I don't think it, this doesn't look as good as I thought. You go? We went in and enjoyed it. But Austin, I don't know. I did not see down to Austin. So Freddie and I had to make a quick stop over in Nashville, and it was a quick stop. We were in and out. We got to hang out with our buddy Tim Dugger.

Sorry. Yeah. He's actually playing here this week. Yeah, on Thursday. And I'm telling you guys, you know, Boat Yates is where he's at. It's an old marina that they turned into a bar. And it's right off of exit 28 in Cornelius off 77, probably 20 minutes from the racetrack. 20 minutes from downtown.

Is that the old... You never been? I never been to the boatyard. It's badass. It's cool. It's got a big indoor area, big outdoor area, a big playground area for kids.

Right off things, 28. You know where Tenders is? The chicken place? Yeah. Right across the street. Oh, okay. Yeah. So he's playing Thursday night

7 to 11, and there will be a ton of people there because he's got a lot of friends in this area. And he's a country music star. I said Cole Custer's car is going to be out there with Dixie vodka. I think that he's putting it on too. Yeah.

Dougger's good, too. The last time we went to a vodka-sponsored concert run pretty well. Yeah, Doug threw up in the back of my sister's van. And your sister was supposed to be the DD, and she was the drunkest person there. Talking about the hack, Doug, Doug, the hack. His guy's slide job, somebody from 25 back. Oh, it's good. Somebody doesn't, you hack.

So also Texas, man, I saw everything from gated trailer parks to $3,000 bottles of bourbon. Like, you talk about a diverse crowd. You forget all the tents? Tent City. They had a tent city underneath the bridge. People of Tent City, though, they had cars. Tons of parking underneath around their tent. So you drive a car to your tents. Yeah. Like a legit home. Legit home. Really nice restaurants. I mean, we went to a cool burger bar called Hop Dotties. It was awesome. We went to a former brothel. Yeah. Speak easy. It was called Midnight Cowboy. Oh my gosh. I got to tell you this, though. The most entertaining part of my race is apparently, when I was putting my rain pants on, and I had a full-blown plan of not to get my radios wet.

I personally don't care if I get wet, but I didn't want my radios to get wet. So I've got all this stuff put together. Apparently when I put my pants on, there's a mosquito in them. And I'm going to tell you something. At the end of stage one, my ass started itching, and I thought I was breaking out in like a rash.

And so I'm praying that this stage is going to hurry up and be over, just so I can scratch my ass and figure out what's going on. Did you put them on over anything? Did you put, I mean, I had shorts on. I had shorts on. And underwear and then these rain pants, right? So it got up under all that? I mean, it was obviously in my rain pants when I put my rain pants on.

You got some bugs. So I have got mosquito bites on my inner thigh, out of thigh, all my, I'm, I'll tell you one of my ass as big as a 50 cent piece. Still got them? Oh, yeah, you want to sit. Yeah. You're talking about itching? Oh, that would have ruined my morning.

Appreciate it. So if you see me over here, like scratching my leg and kicking like a dog, did you look like I did that night when that bug flew down my shirt? Yeah, that praying man, it got a hold of you. Charlotte that time looked like that time heard that one went after Herm at Bristol I didn't know Herm can move that fast like I did not know he could get at like he was fist fighting a praying man I started restart I started breakdancing in the middle of Coke 600 one year because some gigantic bug flew down my shirt and Brits just staring at me not even watching the race he's like

what's wrong with you there's a few of these night races that you go to that some of the bugs are way bigger than what you think and there are millions of them and they're all over and they hit you and once in a while one will get like right at your collar and get in your shirt and there's nothing you got to freak out for a second it's happened to all of us so everybody anybody had a good day at code it i finished fifth all as i i can't talk two top fives can't get this i was first out i think Brett went to a brothel and now it's just that's exactly how the story is that's a coincidence we left out the karaoke bar name egos, there's no way in hell.

Brett. I've been all over this country. I love dive bars. Sixth Street for me in Austin, Texas was not my jam. It's not for me. It has not one thing that Brett Griffin ever wants to go and do again. But we found this karaoke bar. You found this karaoke bar inside of an apartment complex.

Brett text me and says, Is this the one you posted a picture of that looked a little sketchy? Probably. Listen. From people that don't live here, from people that don't live here, Saeed's probably looks really sketchy too. Saeed is nice now. This place was exactly like Saeeds.

I'm just saying locals think Saeeds, oh, it's great, but people from out of time be like, yeah, we don't probably need to go there. We kind of gas. Brett text me. With a tree in the parking lot. Brett text me and said, Meet me at Egos.

And I had no idea Brett had a bar named after him in Austin, Texas. But then I shot over there, and then it was nothing like I had expected. I'm walking down the street, me and Tony Hirschman, and Drew Herring, and we're walking down the street. And it says I'm here, and I'm like, this is a condo. I don't know what the hell is going on.

So I'm like, does anybody see signs for egos? And there's this one little sign of like an arrow and you got to go into the parking garage. Then there's just a door with a guy he's like, hey, make sure you sit at the table. Okay. I walk in and I'm like, he's sitting there with a beer. He's like, hey.

I'm like, what the hell have you got this into now? Is that where Dylan and I were? That's where, yeah, Dillner. So this one guy walks in, he's like 6-5, looks exactly like Schultz. Should have took a picture. I know. And then there's another guy to walk to Then he was like 5-10 and looked exactly like Dillner, the hat, everything.

So they were opposites. They were opposites. And I really want to take a picture, but we just couldn't bring ourselves. We used to call those hats, go to hell hats and page-lo. I don't know what. I don't even know what the real term is. Like that hat donor wears? You know, the one that he's always not like a baseball cap.

Like a fedora or whatever? I don't think it's a fedora. No, the fedoras have like the. Yeah. I don't know what he's got, what that thing's called. Maybe he can chime in. But, yeah, so that was an interrupt. That place had some of the best.

people watching. Look, go to Hell Hats. When you Google it, it's the first thing that comes up. Let's see it. See, I didn't make it up. I mean, top left, go to Hellhat. Yeah, yeah, I see it. Just because... It's called a Stetson leather, ivy cap, something. I wish, if I had known how my day was going to go on Sunday, I probably could have stayed at egos a little bit longer, or at least drank a little bit more, because I should have known I was going to need it. It's a road course, which... We were killing it there when everybody else put on them slick tires. Yeah. That was a mistake.

I threw all the hints that I could possibly throw on my radio. Do not start this race on slicks. Yeah. Well, just run it long as you need to, and then we'll put them, you know, the rain tires on. I'm like, I have told you all 40 times it is too wet over here to start this race on slicks. Can't be any nicer. I don't know, though. The only thing I thought the same thing, and I was like, over my shoulder here, it's coming.

Like, it's almost here. But Austin Cendrick was running the same lap. times on slicks as we were on wets there for a while and he's also a road course specialist i'm just saying like that that was like so i think was i the only one that left the wets on like no there was like four or five of you that had wets on yes yeah it was you the 19 there was like 34 i think did too 34 all of y'all were up front yeah yeah like we like then it was no conversation about it like you didn't pass anybody we passed everybody we passed everybody I don't care what tires they're at.

No, we passed them all. Everybody's on Pier Road. Why did you guys take the spotter stand where you can't see? I don't understand that. We didn't have a choice. Well, you didn't get moved to the other place over there until that day, until Sunday morning. But, like, I guess wherever you were, the spotter stand in. I was in 6 through 12.

I was standing in a spotter stand at 7 and 8. I didn't know. And I could see them. And I didn't know it was a spotter stand there. He was at 10. Okay. I was in like 7, 8, 9. But there really wasn't much passing in the S's that there really wasn't a lot of passing there.

And 10's terrible because the biggest corner there is 11. And when you're going to 11, they're going to yards. Yeah, it's like turn 1 in Talladex. You can spot it easy, though, with binoculars. Let me ask you this. I'm going to tell you why. Because the elevation change. It wasn't flat going away from you.

Most of the people that we had over there, especially in the truck race, something like that. I mean, can that guy spot it easy going away from you? My guy was doing his first race. Exactly. That's what I'm saying. That's one thing I didn't understand that. I don't mean anything. The main spotters could probably have done it.

On my spotter stand, there were probably three guys that I have ever seen on my life. That's what I'm saying. On a spotter stand. And I'm going to tell you something. It was sketch kind of coming at you into seven because that car coming out of six, he could peek like it was sketch coming out of seven. It was sketch coming off a 10 because they were so freaking loose. A lot of them were using a full skin pad.

A lot of them weren't used. using even getting close to the rumple strips, but then going up that hill, like you said, under braking, I mean, I could spot it fine, but if I'd never spotted a race before, probably not. But here's the hard part. When they come off of 11 and they went what looked like a freaking mild out of 12 after it started raining hard, there were guys that were going 50 miles an hour it looked like and guys that were going 150 miles an hour. And that's what caused those big wrecks on that backstretch. They weren't wrecking on the straightaway because they were hydrop plan. And they were wrecking because of visibility. And because of the,

that visibility. Some guys were like, I don't want to get wrecked. I'm going to go easy. And then the guy that was coming on to the inside, the guy that was coming hard, boom, he'd run all over him. I mean, if you watch the video of Cole Custer climbing out of his car, he almost gets hit. His car almost gets hit. And he's already finished wrecking. He almost got hit by the safety truck, too. They couldn't even see him. And then you turn around and you watch, obviously, saw all those replays. Like, it was insane. But to have a guy where I was at that had never spotted before, if you made that decision as a manager or a crew chief, you're a fucking idiot. A lot of them don't have choices, man.

I mean, three, you know how we say there's only, how many people, main spotters, are there really, like, Brady, you know, like, A guys, how many are them, not many? I don't know, but let me ask you this, how many drivers raced on Saturday that didn't have anything to do on Sunday? Give me Justin Algar, give me Noah Grax, and give me a, racer. Maybe not know. Give me Dylan Welch.

Give me Hannah Newhouse. Give me a racer. And I don't mean any discount to anybody back there. But if you've never spotted before, holy hard time. Yeah. I mean, I, yeah. It's just the thing I don't understand is, like, allow us to, for one, so three guys went to the test.

They report back to NASCAR. One of them says he can do it with two people. The other two say you need at least. Two people. There's 20 turns. You need probably four, you know. So, like, if you got two spotters telling you, we need to, you need four. And it's two like prolific spotters, you know, winning race card spotters,

uh, that tell you you need four. Why are we going back with three? What is the, what is the hurt? Why are we losing a guy when there's two guys telling you we need four? Like if, if they say we need four, well, all right, we'll give you three. Why? What's that one extra rossus spot for another guy to be in turn 12 to call those corners a little bit easier? Those, the first thing Brett got on the radio on Saturday, we did Xfinity practice or Friday. He's like, holy shit. They are hauling ass back You know, just those two long straightaways. He's like, this is way fast than I was expecting. And now we've got one guy to cover that whole section.

Like, I don't understand what the thought process is into, like, if we say we need four, we're not just, hey, we want to bring one of our buddies to the racetrack. You know, we need four people there. And then on top of that, you put the primary guys and tell them they have to be in turn one where we were useless. I mean, just restart. And that's it. Resarts and that's kind of. But you couldn't, I don't know about you. I couldn't see a restart.

They come straight up the hill at me. TJ was in the front when it was raining hard. Where? Yeah. I'm not even talking about it. It could have been sunny out. Really? Like they're coming straight up a hill.

They're coming straight up a hill at you. So you see the nose of the front couple of cars. And then you're trying to peek your guy out in the middle of the pack somewhere. Okay, now you're fine. Now he turns in front of you. You see him, Sam, Sam, Sam. Then they go down the hill. Now you're looking at the back of the cars behind you.

So, like, our section was useless. I couldn't do pit road. I could barely do restarts. We need to be on the end of the grandstand, at least so you can see a crossway a turn one. But even then, like, that would have been where I would have put my least least experienced guy. You got to have a guy near one though somewhere, because if they spin out, like, I'll tell you what it made me nervous, and we were leading on that restart, and here comes Ross in there, and I see the nose set down in our car, and I see Ross is still up, then I see it

set down. I'm like, oh, God. Oh, boy. He's coming in, he's going to be there, so I start calling him inside, and then he misses the corner a little bit, and I'm like, I told Joey, I'm like, just let him go in the middle, cross him or something, because he was held in on getting the lead on that. I just feel like it should have been left up to us. The guys that do it every week to know where we needed to be, and then we can position our own guys. Don't tell us we have to be in this turn one stand when I didn't do anything yesterday.

It's like, all right, you're in the middle of five wide and one, middle, middle, all right, now two wide. All right. See you later. The best spot ended up being on the backside, I think, yesterday where the spotters ended up going, because they could see a lot of the racetrack. I'll tell you where the best spot was, and I know a couple people that snuck up there was on that tower. And they said they could see the whole racetrack. They could see a fine.

You're talking about that glass bottom thing? Yeah. Oh, that thing. They weren't even up that high. They just got on the stairs. Like, they went up and they came down and sat on the stairs. Yeah. And they said they could see the whole racetracks.

There's a lot of things. I wasn't going up there. That's the first thing you said when we got there. There's a lot of things about that place. They said, hey, that's where you're spot from. I'd say, hey, I'm going to the airport. I'm going back home. You know, I appreciate, like, what Watkins Glen and I'd never been to, you know,

Road America yet. But Sonoma, everything seems to be a lot more. organized parking wise and like they didn't like where we were in turn one there was like the original plan was for us to park in this some lot a mile away and well i don't even know how we were going to get inside there it was it was a 10 to 15 minute walk from the lot that we were supposed to be in ridiculous with a backpack and a rain gear and it's going to rain all day long thunder and lighting like that and you got to do mosquitoes and like and like But I mean with the threat of weather and stuff and the lightning delays that we have now.

That's the smallest one I got, Freddie. Look at this thing. Wow. Look how red it is. That is small. Freddie, look. Don't worry. His pants are on.

He just has his pant leg hiked. No higher on the way. That's not the first time Brett lifted his shorts and said, look how small is. It ain't big. It's cute. But anyway, there's things we definitely got to work on. That tracks huge, ma'am. There's lots.

right next to where we were spotted. This thing that really pissed me off, and I didn't know about this until Sunday. Somebody else pointed out to me. So they tell us we got to park 10 minutes away, whatever. Yeah. Then I look and there's a car there parked next to the spotter stand that says shelter for the Fox shelter car.

So the Fox guys get a shelter car over there, but we got to walk 50 minutes to get our shelter if it starts pouring. But they can park right there too. Yeah, they parked right next to the spotter stand. It was ridiculous. Like there's got to be. There was a lot. We should have been in that lot.

Right. That was right not the where we parked. On the other side of the fence, yeah. I was just impressed with the technology in the spotter stands. I mean, to have the ability to walk up those stable stairs like that, stand up there and not worry about falling off off the rail. Oh, you were in mine. That thing was as sketchy as against.

You were in the best part of it, at least you were right where the stairs were. I was in the top corner on the other end down there, man. It was sketchy as I could move it myself. I got up there. I was going up the stairs and it was suddenly being sarcastic. Stephen Light got up there and he looked at him. He was scared. Lenny,

Lenny comes up and I saved, I had Mark Brett a spot off and he decided he wanted to stay in turn 10 all weekend. So Lenny comes up and he's like, this thing ain't built for big boys, is it? I said, no, no,

it's not a fat guy friendly. So sketchy, man. Like the planks we were standing on and stuff. Like, if we're going to be a fixture there, there needs to be something. There needs to be something like Watkins Glen builds them wooden,

them wooden feet. Like, and they're great. This is not, and then it was so windy on Friday. Like the wind, like it was moving you and you're like, I was picking out where I was going to land. There's a couple of like, Megan said, how's the racetrack? I said, just make sure life insurance is paid up here.

I mean, we're going to make sure everything's coming. I had it figured out that right when we got to the ground, I was going to jump and I was going to land in the rocks. Well, you were a little lower. I think I had to went a lot further than you. Welcome to TJ Major Speedway. Yeah. We're closing down.

You were going to own that place. I don't know if he saw us, but we were. in that right in turn one there so that gravel trap you go if you overdrive turn one year in the gravel trap and Noah ended up right in front of me so me and Tyler Green are waving we're like hey he's looking right at it was a spotter stand they had you guys

in what kind of looked like a scaffold yeah it wasn't it didn't look like a scaffold they had a couple of camera shots when it was just raining on you guys and you guys all just looked like the miserable school kids waiting for the bus I definitely portrayed it well that was definitely how it felt you couldn't turn around though it was

like blowing it like hitting you in the face That's one thing. I think it was Tyler Green said he's like, thank God the wind is blowing that way. Because if it was the other way, we wouldn't have been able to do anything. Luckily, Tyler Green was right in front of me almost, so I blocked the rain from him majority of the time. It was miserable, though. All right. Let's hear a little bit more about our great presenting sponsor of OfferPad. Hi, we're OfferPad. The new way homes are sold. The one stop for every type of home seller.

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Buy or sell your home in Charlotte today when asked where you're going to be. You heard about offer pads, select the NASCAR option so they know we sent you. Spot on, spot off. First one here is NASCAR's decision to call the cup race with 14 laps remaining due to weather conditions. TJ, you can start. I'm spot off at that point. We had already been running in it for a while. We knew it we had.

The cars were all spread out. And I get it, there was, you know, it had been raining like that steady for a while. Like, I don't know if it was going to get worse than what it was. We'd already been racing in it. we had strategies playing out and I don't know to me I'm spot off because maybe if there was a crash where they had to throw put the pace car out there and let water really kind of subtle on the track but the cars were all spread out and I just wanted to see it finish at that point so I wasn't there I was flying at that point so you'll have to tell me obviously I read when I get we land I see all this stuff

I think you were the first one that I realized you said the race has been called or whatever. But then, of course, what do you get next is all the Chase Elliott conspiracy? This race is fixed tweets. So here's where I stand on this thing. These guys are out there running. Conditions are deteriorating down the backstretch from 11 to 12. The rooster tails, it looked like we were powerboat racing. It was unreal.

The rooster tails those cars were shooting off. AJ had a lot of complaints. And look, he just won a race in torrential rain at Charlotte last year. He was complaining about a lot of places where he was hydroplaining. And I personally, watching the race was fine with us to keep going. The second day through the caution, we were doomed. Because if you go back in those conditions, going up the hill into 11, you can't see. Going down the hill into 12, you can't see.

and when you can't see, racing becomes a game of chance instead of a game of skill, just like it did for spotters, man, when they drove up to top of that freaking hill on some of those restarts when they were rooster telling, I could not even see the blinking red light in the back window. So you lose the car. That's not safe. You got to try to find the car when it comes out the other side. That's hard to pick up.

And then you find your car all of a sudden now they're turning left and they're in traffic. So for me, I am very much spot off that we ever had to stop the race. But once we stopped it, we had to stop for good because conditions were too bad and too unsafe to restart the race. Now, I sent out a tweet the day I got there, that if this thing, that if it's raining, we should only throw cautions for cars on fire or cars upside down. We damn near saw both. I mean, wrecked. But once it starts raining, we don't typically see, you know, crazy hard wrecks at a lot of places we go.

there's a lot more room. This place down that backstretch didn't have a lot of room. It was a narrow backstretch, poor visibility, wall super close to the drivers. I was okay with it playing out organically until they threw that caution. Once they threw it, I started packing up my stuff, and I went to the car because I knew they didn't have the ability to restart this race for at least three hours. That's what I'm saying. You can't pack us up and go again, but we were all so spread out. at that point it's not about two guys racing each other it's basically the driver the machine versus the track and the conditions at that point and everything i don't agree with racing again and once like you said once you throw the other we can't go back like that it's just too those guys

can't go down that straight away and wonder if the other guy at the guy in front of him is breaking early or what we can't do that but i think too tj and and i won't freddie to weigh in on this because he stood out in it i obviously did not to me when people hear rain tires, it's confusing because it's insinuates, we can race in the rain no matter what. No matter what. Monsoon. I think that that particular racetrack was completely safe if it was wet but not raining. Okay.

So can we go out there with it wet? Yes. Can we go out there with it damp? Yes. Can we compete in it not be dangerous? In my opinion, yes. Once it's raining, and I don't mean a mist, I mean raining. Once it's raining at that particular racetrack, it's not safe.

We cannot go out there. and compete. So Freddie, was Charlotte any different because of the layout of the track in the runoff room or was it similar? I think that the biggest difference in Charlotte and, you know, and other road courses that we run on, you don't have the super long straightaways. You know, you don't have that excess of speed so where, you know, now like there's, you know, if you're going to go to a corner, a slow corner, the breaking zone discrepancy is not as big as it would be at the to turn, you know, going into turn 12. And I think that Bubba in that lap, I don't know, but in the first stage still probably,

said, listen, I'm going to get killed into turn 12 all day right now because I can't see. He's like, and I'm not going to overdrive and run somebody else's day. So now he was one of the guys that was backing his entry up. And we were trying to talk to him about it, you know, like pick a lateral marker out instead of the one you've been using. He's like, listen, I had a camper I was using. That disappeared five laps ago. He goes, it's just getting worse. He goes, I can't see anything.

I don't know. I mean, the rain was probably harder at Charlotte, I think. But there was no, I mean, we had visibility issues. We had problems, but there was no time when I said, I can't see you. I said that multiple times. Also, Charlotte, those guys have thousands of the last. Most of them have a lot of laughs. And they kind of know where they're out on the banking and stuff.

And there's banking that, you know, it's just, their spray was just ridiculous. So when I sent my tweet out yesterday, TJ, I said, all you fans that are complaining stop because here's why I saw how bad it was I'm telling you you right now when they left turn 10 and they went barreling off into 12 I couldn't even believe that they could get the car stopped if you've not physically sat in a race car from turn 6 to turn 12 or you've not physically stood where I stood or stood where a fan stood that where you could see this in person you don't understand how freaking dangerous it was TV doesn't show speed those tight shots don't show how dangerous it is. I'm telling you right now,

turn freaking 9 and 10, 11 and 12, we're freaking dangerous. Look how scary it is going down 77 in a hard rain behind a tractor trailer or something. And you've got good wipers. Yeah, and you've got... Some of those wipers, man. Imagine doing 175, 180 down a straightaway, whatever they were hitting back

there and having to break and racing. Like, you... I mean, it's just unsafe. It is unsafe, and I agree with once we... Once we, once we get packed back up. Once the other comes out, we can't go back. It was scary to watch as a fan, though. Like when you were watching it and you were watching people, they were taking the straightaway shot of them coming at you. I mean, you were watching some of them tiptoe and blow

past each other. And it was like, it was uncomfortable to like watch. It was like it looked like you were drag racing on ice with the visibility. The easiest way I can put it to you is, have you seen a replay of Bubba and Kevin Harvick's Rick yet? No. No, because the camera they had for that angle was pointed straight down from 10 to 11, and it's just spray. They tried to show a couple replays, but you just see spray and maybe some objects in the middle of the spray, but you can't see anything. And that's what happened with our guy that was back there. He's literally, I'm sure it's going to be all over radioactive this week. He says three times, I can't see you, I can't see you, I can't see you. Watch the four. Boom. It's over. You know, and it's, that's all that can happen

back there, you know? So it's just... Again, if we go back, race teams, I'm talking to you, you better figure out a way to have experienced spotters if it's going to rain because you can't have guys that have never spotted spotting in those conditions. It's not their fault, but holy cow. Still can't spotter can't see. I don't think my spotter did a great job all day long.

There's nothing. And he called me and he said, you know, was there something I could do different? I said, not unless you can see through walls, bro, because there's nothing to see there. It's just spray. You're looking at spray. And my guy, he didn't, he had, I don't know if he maybe spotted other stuff, but I know he hasn't done anything with me. And he did a great job all day long and just, just the victim of circumstances right there. It's crazy. All right, next one here.

Kevin Harvick and Martin Truex Jr.'s comments after their wrecks in the cup race at Coda and Jason has their comments. We don't have any business being out in the rain, period. So, you know, all I can say is this is the worst decision that we've ever made in our sport that I've been a part of. And I've never felt more unsafe in my whole racing career, period. And then Martin Truex Jr. said over the radio after the hiss wreck, fucking ridiculous, I about died right there. Swear jar. Brett, spot on, spot off.

I'm spot on for their candidness, right? I mean, they're giving you their true opinion. I mean, Martin Truex, Pile Drive, Michael McDowell. And after that, obviously, we saw Cole Custer, then Pile Drive Martin Truex and it goes back to what we were saying you can't see you know when they went to single file restarts

for visibility purposes it's like okay well now you took two people that could see on the front row and now you're only going to have one because I'm telling you from third on back it was a freaking disaster and then you've got these clowns on Twitter talking about well if one don't do this let me tell you something F1 doesn't race 40 cars spraying up like power boats like you can't

you can't compare our cars to F1 the visibility the fog the windshield wiper. I mean, I saw some teams of windshield wipers that went all the way from one side of the window to the other, and I saw some that looked like they wouldn't even turn on. So, I mean, back to these comments. It's just unfortunate we put our drivers in a situation, though, to have to make those. I'm not spot on or spot off. It just, it sucks because we've traveled, you know, what felt like 1,500 miles to get there. And it's our first time there. It's our first really race back with a bunch of fans there, which was awesome to see. NASCAR wants to put on a show. They got millions of people watching and we're

in a situation we've never thought or maybe we just, I don't know. Listen, I'm spot on for their comments because I feel like since, and we've talked about on here multiple times over different topics, since 2001, we have doubled down on safety. And this is our main priority is safety. and what they did yesterday took a giant step back in that direction. Like that was just not safe. And when you see at the same time two guys simultaneously rear-end somebody because they can't see talking about Christopher Bell running the back of the 12 and then causing Kevin Harvard to check up and we run him over,

you need to take a look and go, okay, hold on a second. These guys obviously have an issue here. Let's not, maybe that's when you put the jets out there, put whatever. but, you know, it's just that should have been the eye-opening, oh, man, like we just had two guys running the back of somebody for no reason whatsoever. On a straightaway. Now, let's go right back, and then this is that, like, two, five laps later, maybe not even. You had the issue with Custer and Truex and McDowell. So I just, you know, if we're all going to be about safety, safety has to trump the show every time. I'm spot on for their, you know, their initial, that's straight up, that's real. And that's them, you know, being as real as can be.

And I don't think we have the rain stuff quite figured out yet. There's a limit. It was fine in the rain a little while. Like, it wasn't terrible. There, you know, is that light rain? It wasn't that bad. But once you get that steady, hard rain, like, that spray starts shooting up and you lose a lot of visibility. So I don't know. I think there's, we just got to know when, we got to know when it gets

too dangerous for the guys. I feel like that used to be what we did, right? Wasn't that the way, I mean, I don't remember the, like the written rule, but I felt like it used to be like, because it was usually just the Xfinity series, right? I don't remember if Cup was doing it, but it would be, you know, we're going to race in the wet, but we're not going to race in the driving rain. Like it wasn't going to, if it's, if it's a hard rain, we're not going to run in that. You know, we'll put the wet tires on. We'll run in the wet, but we're not going to run in the hard rain. But Montreal was the first one that I can really remember that was, but that was bad. All I can tell you guys is I was genuinely surprised at how hard the drivers could push the cars in those terrible conditions.

They were driving the wheels off those things. Like from the dry to the rain on some of the exits of the corners I could see, you couldn't speedwise tell much difference because they were freaking getting after. The problem is the way our cars are built and the way the water comes out from under them, you can't see. Literally the guy behind, the second guy behind the leader can't see. You can't race like that. It doesn't make sense. And that decision, it's a hard decision to make, but at the point that when it's raining

that hard, you've got to make that call. It's just the way it is. The biggest thing I took away from these comments was that I'm just glad to see Kevin Harvick was worried about safety again because that day when he intentionally wrecked the whole field of Talladega, I was questioning how he felt about safety, but now I know he's behind it. Yikes. Okay, next one.

You guys kind of touched on this, but NASCAR changes to single-file restarts after a major crashes. Freddie, you can start on that. Which one? I wasn't paying it. He wasn't listening, Hannah. It wasn't going to matter. It wasn't going to matter. It wasn't going to matter. It wasn't going to matter because the front car can see and nobody else can.

And if we'd had another restart, you were going to find that out. If it was raining hard, which is why we didn't go back green. Definitely made it a little bit safer, but you still can't see. the lot the the the the it just makes the the lot like just makes it longer the whole the trail gets longer you know so i don't know yeah i think this you know they thought this would help like they did at bristol you know when they that was going to reduce the dust um and i would assume it would probably help a little bit but you still can't see like you said they're still going to fan out they're not going to stay single file it's a little bit like if you dust of bristol and yeah driving a mile an hour down a

straightaway well but when we hit the dynamic to where you can't put your product on the track with the intent that you showed up, you might want to just stop for a little bit. Stop at Bristol and fix the track. Stop here and let it dry. Let's put the product on the track that we came 1,500 miles to put on the track. Next one, no caution with two laps to go in the truck race at Cota when Timmy Hill was stopped in the middle of the track. T.J. I mean, spot off for stopping in the middle of the track, first of all.

Do you not? I think he spun. Haley almost killed him. Oh, yeah. Trust me. I've seen replay as of it. I'm pretty sure he spun, and that's where he ended up. Really?

I think so. Okay. I mean... Because he said he made a mistake and threw away a good finish. So I'm assuming he got in hot somewhere and spun out, and that's where he kind of landed. I think you would still try to get to an edge somewhere rather than be right in the exact racing groove. But that's road course race, and there's... This happens.

I mean... I think we almost chaos, but, like, where we're at, and this is a... I can't believe you didn't call that. I mean, what was wrong with you? Yeah, I mean, what term was that again? 13, 12, 13. We only needed two spotters. I'm in turn one, and this goes to the brilliant orange cone guy

that decided to try to call me out on Twitter saying, little help from you, T.J. Majors, I'm in one, bud. So if you want to try to spot turn 12, you know, maybe you should have been here spotting instead of, you know, couch commentating a little bit. Sitting at the end of pit road? Yeah, I'm at the end of pit road on a, yeah, on a scaffolding. still see that clown's tweets i blocked him years ago well that like listen i don't know if you listen our radio but i help haley a ton and if it's in a corner on the other end of the track from where i'm at

not a lot i can do there spot off for them not throwing the caution but let me tell you something um these drivers they learn to look ahead on ovals they learn to look ahead while they're racing and i think on some of these road courses they get so caught up and making the first corner they don't realize they got to set themselves up for the next corner and they stopped looking ahead as far as they're supposed to because you got to look ahead and find those apexes. I don't know what Haley was looking at. Well, she had a truck in front of her that just barely missed. She damn sure had a truck in front of her.

It was parked. No, there was another one that swerved out of the way. And then when he moved, she was like, boom, there's this truck sitting there. There was one in front of her. She was right on somebody. Listen, I'm spot on for no caution. This is freaking road course racing. That's a local yellow.

Put the local yellow out of, I mean, if the guy sits there for a minute and a half or something, then yes, throw the yellow, but he spun, sat there for a couple of seconds, you know, a couple guys went by him, he got fired up, he rolled off. That's not a full course yellow. Yeah, I'm fine with no yellow. Especially as long as the caution's taking that place. But I agree with you there, but we have to have a communication that says there's a local yellow in 12. Yeah, yeah. No, I'm fine with that, yeah. But we don't get that. That's still, I'm going to, even if you say local yellow right there, we're still, if you're like Haley coming around that corner, you go into 12.

and you turn left out of there, you're following his truck, and he swerves, and all of a sudden there's a truck sitting there, it's still going to be the same. That's a dangerous spot. I don't even think local yellows are so, you have a local yellow until you see if the guy can get it fired up, because you can't send safety workers to where that truck is. Did you have a spotter with eyes on that part of the racetrack?

There was a spotter on that end of the track, yes. So what happens is with spotters, people, this is just like being on an airplane and having a pilot. You don't need a good pilot until all hell breaks loose. Anybody that's a pilot can go fly a plane. But when stuff starts going wrong, you better have a good one to get you out of it. Same thing for a spotter. If you got a spotter and all hell starts breaking loose, you better have a good one

because that's all hell breaking loose right there. All right. Brad Keselowski has reportedly been offered a driver and co-ownership role with a Rausch Fenway Racing for next season. Silly season begins. You can start that one off, T.J. Sure. Brad giving you a piece of the team.

He's going to make him a chief spotter. You don't exist, Jason. Look, I don't know if it's true or not, but... What? It's confirmed. Brad's always said he wanted to own a cup team. Like, he's made comments about owning a cup team. So it doesn't surprise me that Roush need, to me, they need a driver.

Like, they used to have, like, a... They don't really have a main guy. like Ryan Newman's really good but he's the I don't know like you don't have the I don't know what the word I'm looking for but flagship ace if like yeah like the guy I guess sure um I don't know and that to me it's a good move a good move on their part to make the offer in my opinion I mean why not I'm spot on I'm always spot on for the start of silly season um the thing that you know and obviously I think we've seen over the years that Roush Fenway had been trending in the wrong direction. And I don't know about you, but I always kind of assumed that this was going to be Doug Yates,

and maybe it still is at some point, that kind of buys into this team and kind of revitalizes a little bit. And they needed a shot in the arm. I think there's no question about that. But on the same time, I think Bushers having a very good season. You know, I think quietly, he's 13th in points. I think that's like the third or fourth highest guy without a win. So he's in the playoffs right now

And he's just super consistent Like he was back in the days when he was winning archa championships Like he didn't hear him He wasn't real flashy Wasn't winning races But he was super consistent and ran really good races So I think that could be a good combination If they go into next year with Brad and Chris

One next finish championship same way Yeah My favorite thing about this is man I was a huge fan of the sport In the air where Drivers were owning cars And it didn't necessarily have to be own car. I mean, look at what DEI did, right?

Dale Earnhardt on the car. I mean, had Alan Kowicki, you had Ricky Rudd, we could keep going for days. Like, I was a huge fan of that error. Now, I'm going to tell you after being in a sport for a couple decades, it also gets pretty confusing, because now you're asking Brad to do two things.

You're asking him to own the car, potentially, partially, and you're asking him to drive the car. Well, the owner's job is to have the budget to go racing and not lose money. The driver's job is to go there and get the absolute most that you can out of your equipment. And I think, I mean, look at Danny Hamillan right now.

I think this is an error that's coming back that I love. Danny Hamilton's car owner. Brett Kozowski's a car owner. I love it. But as a race car driver, if you're going to try to go get all, you can get at Talladega and you realize this is like, look, I'm telling you, this first car we put on the racetrack at Daytona, this new gen car, it's going to be a $500,000, $600,000 car. So now are you making a business decision out there?

Are you making a race car driver decision? And I think it has to go through your mind. You can't help it if you're part owner in this thing and you're managing sponsorship. And you know, man, we're two cars down in inventory. If I tear this car up, it's going to cost us another quarter million dollars. That's going to, that would be the question. I mean, he's going to tell you he's going to drive his ass off.

And he will. I'm not saying that he won't. But you can't tell me that the business side of it. That's why I loved any Hamlin's model, because he can be the boss and drive for somebody else. And if he wrecks, he doesn't necessarily care as much because it doesn't take a financial hit on it. But spot on for this, I think it's a huge move to set Brad up for the future in NASCAR. And we see so many guys come through here. Casey Kane just rings the biggest, loudest bell in my mind of a guy that we just let walk out of here.

And he hadn't even been back to the racetrack since. Hadn't been honored, hadn't been a freaking starter, hadn't given the command. He hadn't done a damn thing. We have far too often, you know, guys like Kim, guys like Mark Martin, Carl Edwards, they just walk away and you never hear from him again. But where do you go here, like trickle down? So now obviously Brad's leaving Penske to go to Rouse. What does that mean?

I would assume, I don't know what contract wise, but you'd assume it's Klazlowski and Busher at Roush next year. I don't think they're going to start a third team to keep Newman. So where's Newman go? Who goes into two? Like, is this a huge benefit for Matt de Benedetto? The key to silly season is Roger Penske. And he's the key to also the Exfintly Series silly season,

because what's that 22 car going to do? Pray to God it doesn't close down. That's the best car in the field every single week. So to me, the two in the 22 are what held the key to silly season. And I think you've got to say Matt D. He's a candidate. You know, the question becomes, what's a sponsorship scenario? And is Matt D. Benedetto performing well enough to be considered for the two.

Because maybe he's not. And maybe they make a complete change of plans here. And Austin Cedric is now in the two. And they leave Matt D. at the Woodbrothers. Yeah. There's a lot of moving parts and pieces that are going to come into this conversation now because this is a huge move. Next one here, NASCAR teams have been informed that moving the car number to cows from the center of the doors would result in added sponsor value.

Freddie. Let's go to Brett. He's this as his area. Well, I think, I mean, I put my thoughts on Twitter the other day that, you know, I hadn't really considered the fact of the maximum value for a sponsor. The most of the car they can get is moving the number forward and giving them that whole space. from behind the number all the way to the tail versus a piece in front of the number and then a piece behind the number. I hate the way sliding the number forward looks.

I don't know why. I know it's happened before, and if they do it, we'll all get used to it. And I think for some reason, I feel like in the last couple years, some teams have already slid their number forward a little bit because I feel like on our car, especially, like I feel like the number is forward. It might just be an optical illusion. But I think the biggest thing is it's going to move. So if it's not going to be on the Senate, it's got to be between the wheels, number one.

If we're going for maximum sponsor value, it's got to go forward. If you're going for more aesthetically pleasing, in my opinion, slide it back. But, you know, and then I've seen some people. What was that word you just used? Aesthetically? You know, okay, please spell it. I don't think Freddie can spell it. You know that the one thing, I've seen people say, just leave it up to them, like, put it wherever they want.

I don't think you should do that. No. I think that Landon Castle, I think, had a good tweet about you want everything to be uniform. You don't want cars to look different. Like the numbers here, the number's there. So just make a decision and we'll all get used to it. So this decision and conversation, I'm assuming, is coming from NASCAR, right? NASCAR teams have been informed moving the car number decals from the center of the doors.

Could result, would result in added sponsor value. Let me tell you what will result in added sponsorship value is taking us off of FS1 and NBC Sports. network and putting us back on the networks because our ratings are through the roof when we're on those channels. So if you want to really worry about sponsor return on investment from a brand awareness perspective, the number isn't going to be what changes this game. It's going to be putting us on the right channel. Now, as far as this number argument goes, I don't care where this thing lands, but to me this is just a big distraction. Figure out what you need to do. Say how you're going to do it because teams are currently trying to sell space. We're throwing out paint schemes.

I probably threw out three or four different paint schemes last week. to different companies that are not in the sport. And the last thing we want to do is have those guys buy into something, get excited about something. Then in October, we go back to them, we go, hey, bud, that paint scheme you love, we got to change it. We got to move a number here. It does this to your logo, this to your branding,

and it puts us in a bind. So if we're truly going down this path, if anybody is listening to me in the Charlotte Marketing Office, our Daytona Beach Marketing Office, make the freaking decision so people that are out here trying to sell this product, have something to sell. All right. Last one, Mike Harmon's team pulled over for driving an Xfinity car on the street with three people inside.

And there's a picture on Twitter out there if you want to find it. And it's quite hilarious. It's just a ride-along program. It's a ride-along program. I mean, this was my leading. Up until Friday, this was my leader for what an idiot. But one thing that I don't understand. Were they going to Applebee's?

Yeah. Apparently they were going to the diner or something. Yeah, they just loaded everyone in. Here's what I don't understand about this, and maybe I'm just looking into it too much. But does anybody in the world have more legal troubles than them backmark or T? Like, Norm Benning gets something stolen every other week. Jennifer Joe Cobb got a hauler stolen, I think one time, or Harmon stole horror. I don't know.

But I feel like the only time these guys are in the news is what something was going on, something got stolen or they're getting pulled over for driving down the road with three guys in a race car? Do you think she was watching him and be like... Yeah, she called the cops? I like to report. What's that video? game with hookers and drugs. Grand theft auto.

It's like Grand Theft Auto's going on back there in a lower part of the points. I don't know how far he was driving. Anybody know how far it was? I don't know where their shop is. This isn't. He's going to Applebee's, I'm telling you, Mooresville. Apparently they were driving from the shop to the dino or something at which I don't know how far it is.

So you think Mike Harmon's dino in cars now. No, that's where they were going. They don't know why. They dino their car. Yeah, I'm sure. So it says they're a race shop and this may not be correct is in Denver. It is in Dallas, South Carolina. Yeah.

So is there a dino in Denver? I'm sure there's a race shop out near that way that has something. Because there's no way you drive from Denver to Moresville in a race car. There's no way you do that. They're going over here down Bisseppe. What do you think the cops said, sir, I need to, I mean, hell, you don't have a registration for this thing. What do I need to see from you? Yes.

Oh, yeah, that's the main road in Denver. That's the main road. That's equivalent to 150 of Moresville. Right, yeah. I'm guessing he wasn't going more than a mile or two, but here's what we know he wasn't doing. He wasn't speeding. that's a safe bet but no that's not a safe bet because

there's nobody in our sport he don't drive anymore thank God but Mike Harmon could be 700 laps down and what's the next thing you're going to hear speed not be right 74 too fast down pit road well they don't have their equipment to get a good reading and you know you don't get a good reading back there with the pace car

he's got a him and Danny Hamler are tied for the lead in most speeding penalties in the sport I think oh my gosh hey I'd like to get the police officer on here that pulled him over and we could uh might keep fighting a good fight bud yeah keep these headlines coming keep staying in the news try 150 next week what's up guys this door bumper clear podcast is brought to you by our friends at racing

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been back. And it has been very entertaining to listen to. So Jason, with the first one. So as happy as I am for colleague racing, I'm also sad at the same time for the simple fact that Brett Griffin was a part of it because now this whole podcast we're going to have to listen to him talk like he's an ESPN insider like he's the greatest thing that's walked the earth for NASCAR but that's where I get confused because how can a guy act like he's the greatest thing ever and gives somebody like TJ Majors such a hard time when TJ Majors has a Daytona 500 which brett does not have a cup series championship which brett obviously does not have with that being said TJ I think you're a phenomenal spotter I just cut him off yeah this guy

does is research on me. The reason the reason colleague loves me is because I was a part of their first win, their last win, and their first cup series top five. So there's some more statistics for you there, Capnaubius. All right, next one. Why is it always

fucking Stenhouse? And that's wrong. I love this sport. I want it to be successful. So I'm going to give you a tip. The next time Kyle Larson is going to pass Chase Elliott in a passing zone on the circuit of America,

for second place. You don't need to show me Quinn Huff and Stenhouse wrecking in the back. They do that every week. I'm used to it. That's what they're doing back there. I know it.

Back then, it's turning each other around. I'd like to watch the lead, please. Somebody told me Ricky left pit road yesterday and like hit the rumpel strips and the whole car came off the ground. Yeah, we heard it. We all heard it.

I was walking. I didn't see it. I was walking back to the car. And I heard, well, why? And I'm like, what that was that? And I look in the 40s. You can hear it. When it landed, it sound, it went like, like the whole bottom of the car. It was a train wreck.

Dude, it was. Wow. I guess what I heard was true. It was very true. I don't know if they do this over by you. Was there a grandstand near you at all? Oh, that sucks kind of. Because the last car that would come by, whoever was running last all by himself, the whole crowd. Brandon Brown was the most popular driver in the ex-fitting race. He got a standing ovation every lap.

And the 15 in the cup race would come by, and the whole crowd just erupted. Relax. Shout out to the fans in turn one that tried to go up and down that mud hill. Because it was the only thing I had to watch during the race because I couldn't do one going on. I did see like four crafts. Fuck you. In these American flag over. So Joel Edmonds, I got on a plane last night and he's got videos of all these people trying to go up down this mudhill.

But my favorite was a guy that was trying to sell beer. He had a beer in a wagon. I saw him. Yeah, I saw him. He was moving his wagon like an inch of the time. I'm like, you dumbass. You're not ever going to get up that hill with that beer. This hill they had to go across.

Like, you couldn't get to the grassy area if you wanted where they were letting people watch the race from without going across this muddy slope. And I saw a couple people bite it pretty good. It was my entertainment because I couldn't see nothing else. There was one guy that literally froze up. Like he was froze completely up. They couldn't get him. One guy, you see one guy steps in. Like, he gets through, he steps in and he comes out and he's got no shoe on.

Like his shoes down there stuck in the mud somewhere. I saw a guy doing flip-flops, and I was actually pretty impressed with his skill in flip-flops and mud. Oh, all right, who's next? Hey, guys, this is Dave on the Chicago, and I'm watching FS1. Jesus. Jamie listeners of this podcast. We'll have to get with him.

What did he say? He never heard of Zizi time. There's no way, Jamie's never heard of Zizi time. Maybe he just doesn't know the song. I'm pretty sure that might have been what he was danced to in Cabo. I'd like to see Jamie with his Zizi. top beard one time. Oh, boy.

Those are good-looking beards. Yeah. All right. Next one. Brett, you call yourself a spotter. I think the only thing you could spot was Freddy up Hamlin's ass. Love you, T.J. That sound like the same guy.

He's a little different. Next one. Yep. Let me tell you what, boys and gals. I think you're going to hear a whole lot of NASCAR through the red flag because Chase was in front and he was running out of petrol. Well, let me tell you this. If NASCAR threw cautions and made it so their most popular driver could win,

well, then now Jr. to have 195 wins and seven championships. Hell, he'd still be winning right now, even though he ain't racing no more. So come on with your comparison theories. Bottom line is NASCAR realized what they had to do after seeing the earlier of the events in the race. you had to keep the driver safe. Who do you think his favorite driver is? He actually does have a hundred and nine five lucky dogs. How's the, how's the weather in Dawsonville, Richard?

I'd say he sounds like he's on a tractor if you listen real hard. Hey, that was right before the siren went off in the background. Jason, did they say like their name's Richard or how do you know it's Richard? They can type their name into when they leave a call. Oh, I got you. Didn't you call in? I don't remember. I was driving from the airport.

He was drunk. No, I wasn't exactly. I actually work that race. All right, next one. Brett, her birthday in the weekend, bud. Happy birthday. Here's the one more year.

Still sucking. Get a job, man. This is getting carried away. You're catching me. See, here's what I love about this guy. You're catching me in the hate-up. Send me your W-2 and I'll send you mine, Chase. We'll see who's got the better job.

He's getting mad now. I'm not getting mad. I think it's funny. This guy's telling me to get a job. I got more jobs than a week than this guy's probably had in the year. All the hate I get, and I don't get that mad at people. I'm not mad. I think it's funny.

Get a job. I don't know. I'm paying more in taxes than this fucking guy made. I guarantee you. He's getting mad. Swear a jar. He's not mad at all. I'll tell you.

I'm mad I paid that much in taxes. I bet. I'll tell you what. I hope your birthday don't come back for like five more years. It's a five-day celebration, Freddie. I'm aware. Oh, boy. I'm well aware.

Thanks, there, Chase. Is that Chase? Chase from the same place. Chase from the same place. Thanks. I bet this guy's going to be a genius. How about a big old F and spot off to brother. Freddie balls deep as

he barbecue as Bubba sticks his nose up Kevin's ass. Can't wait to read Bubba's Twitter later tonight where he gets all bud hurt over the situation. Well, that's all I got to say. He's got done taking me a T.J. About to wipe my bread.

Y'all have a good day now. That was funny. That's definitely somebody we know. Oh, my God. That was good. Taking a T.J. But he's wrong. We did have a really good. He's wiping his bread. The barbecue was unbelievable.

And yeah, Bubba, you know, he was the only one that ran in the back of anybody yesterday, I guess. It would be fun. Yikes. Did you guys actually have good barbecue? We did. Found a good place. Terry Blacks, right? Terry Blacks.

Amazing barbecue. I don't think I've ever had a better beef rib. Really? Everything we had. Where is that at downtown? Yeah. Well, if you guys want to leave an audio message, you can do that 24-7. You go to anchor.fm.

Backslash door bumper clear. You can click the message icon and we will play the best one each week here on the show. Offerpad, question of the week. Today's, or this week's question is, what's your favorite fun toy you have at your home? Wow, Jason. Okay, Jason. Your favorite toys, hands down, your computer. Yeah, does that count as a toy?

Yeah, it's not a necessity. It's a toy. I use it for work. Probably my sim racing computer. Probably my favorite toy. I got to go on my boat. I mean, it's not, it's close enough to my house to say my boat. But, I mean, I don't know, man.

I got a saltwater tank that's fun. I mean, I guess that's saltwater tank is not fun. Hell with you. Hobby more the toy, right? I mean, kids, bo-dy is obsessed right now with driving a golf cart. Every day is, Daddy, can we go drive a golf cart? I'm like, yeah, you get on a golf cart and here we go. Don't you get him a yard cart or something with a roll cage?

Tear the yard up. Who are you going to impress? My landscaper. Can me tear my yard up? I plead the fifth. Next question. You don't have no favorite toy. You got a picket pole, yeah?

I mean, I don't, what the hell do I? I don't know. Your beer pong table. Yeah. Yeah, maybe, I guess. I don't know. Those usually are good for parties. Your Trager?

My Trager's getting a little, I might need to switch the old pit boss. We got to work on that. Trager's getting a little long in the tooth. It's a little beat up. I've set it on fire too many times, I think. My pit boss is awesome. Man, I love it.

It's huge. My next smoker will be a pit boss. It gets hot. It gets hot a lot faster than the Trigger. It's got the searing option. Like if you guys are in the market for a new smoker, I think the pit boss is a way to go. That'll be the next one for sure.

All right, you guys can go get a cash offer on your home today with our presenting sponsor of Offerpad.com. It's that time again where we discuss our favorite Xfinity X-Fi more than fast moment. Whether you're on or off the track, speed isn't the only thing that you need. So what were some of your guys' favorite more than fast moments this week? I'll take Austin Stryk for my more than fast moment

running lap times faster than those guys on rain tires in the beginning and you know they were saying the spotters were telling Austin it's raining over here and he'd come back on the radio one time I was like it's not raining I'll let you know when it is I'm sitting there soaked so good job Austin for being that fast on slicks yeah I thought he was on weds for sure and then he come down pit road I was like wow those were slicks my more than fast moment and I didn't see it live because I was flying but I saw a replay of this morning.

Did you see this video of Kurt Busch driving? Like he pulls out of line, threads the needle between, I think it was his brother. His Kurt, I mean, Kyle, and Austin Dillon barely misses them. But, I mean, he's going 100 mile an hour faster than they are. So he darts out of line, they split. He goes through the middle of them, drives into the gravel. But the more than fast moment was he didn't get on the brakes. He kept the thing lit up and drove through the gravel, got on the dirt, got back, and saved.

I don't know. I don't think he had a very good finish. but kept themselves in the race instead of being stuck in the gravel. So that was my more than fast, quick thinking moment for Kurt Busch. Yeah, my experience of the X-5 more than fast moment was actually the entire race in the rain coming off turn 10. These guys were sideways, how fast they had to move their hands to catch it. Ross, Chase Briscoe, there were guys that I didn't expect to be going fast using that full skid pad. It was hands down the most entertaining thing I was able to see all day.

But the problem was as soon as they did that, I couldn't see them after that. So thanks to the rain. But now that was definitely a lot of more than fast moments this weekend. We like it fast here on door bumper clear, but what we really like is being more than fast. Thankfully, there's always tons of action for our XFinity X-Fi more than fast moments. You know what else is more than fast? X-FINITY X-Fi. With the speed for all your devices, you also get the reliability and security that keeps your crew connected and protected.

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Well, one of our other favorite segments, time for What an Idiot. Brett, who's your What an Idiot Award go-to? This one may surprise y'all a little bit. Fine, I'll take it. This guy's had a stellar career. He's done a lot of great things in NASCAR, but on his way out, he decided to take a jab at all the current drivers. So mine's Eddie Gossich.

I don't think he am taking that shot at the current drivers saying that the reason he's retiring is partly because the drivers don't do their part in helping to promote these races is disheartening. I hate to see a guy go out like that on a negative play against our superstars and against guys who have made him a lot of money over the years. So sorry, Eddie. What an idiot. My what an idiot is. So my day, Friday. You got one for every day? No, this was Friday.

You could. I could, yeah, for sure. No, it's actually Saturday. We get up. I got to do truck practice at like 8 o'clock in the morning. It's raining or truck qualifying. Then it was cup practice, still raining. Xfinity qualifying, still raining.

And as I get on there for Xfinity qualifying, I say something, and I can hear myself that my. microphone is waterlogged. So I go to clear it and my genius second spotter says, Freddie, I think your mic's wet. No, Brett. I've been standing in the fucking rain for three hours was my reply, I believe. So my one idiot goes to my buddy Brett Griffin.

On Channel 2 was Chris Rice going, tell Freddie he needs to text him and call him and call him. Tell Freddy he needs to do it in my headset. I said, I've told him 10 times. I don't have any more languages to tell him. It's weird that it only doesn't work on that call in car for some reason. I'll tell you what, it was awful. Well, it was raining. I'm just going to hand mine to the guy that thought I could see every corner of the track,

so I'll go with the orange cone. There was that we had an honorable mention that I also seen yesterday was Brett taking a picture of himself in the rain. Oh, yeah, this is true. And then liking it. You can't like your own stuff. Yeah. My phone is going crazy stuff. So the first.

Oh, he blames it on his phone. The first day I literally get in my car and I try to plug my phone in, and this big warning comes up on my phone and goes, you're about to blow your phone up, it's wet. And I'm like, what, what? I've never had this. That has a warning for that? Yes.

Oh, yeah. Self-destructing three, two. Yeah. I was like, please don't take this. Hey, did you see on whatever day it was that it got actually decent weather? It might have been, I don't even know what day it was. The end of Saturday was decent. So on the bank over there, I think it was actually, maybe it was.

and fry i don't remember what day it was but there was a guy and it was like a boyfriend girlfriend or something walked over to that bank as soon as they sat down she gets him her phone he goes up and kneels down she's lays back and they're just like on the hill over there yeah oh yeah getting the shots for the graham man do her for the graham influencers in the wild it was hilarious did you guys did you guys miss the all-star race kind of being the precursor to the 600 this weekend i'm starting to feel I just thought about that this week because normally when you say Charlotte Weeks, you think, okay, I'm two weeks at home here, got the All-Star Race, a little bit different schedule. And I've always thought the All-Ser race here would, I don't care if we run a ridiculously crazy package here.

Like we're supposed to run again. I don't care. Give them more drag. I mean, put a wing on, whatever you got to do, make them all run 150-mile hour and get big runs, you know, 10-hour runs or something. But I've always thought the All-Star Race here at Charlotte. It used to be fun. We, you know, we, you know, we had that week between the All-Star race and the 600.

Yeah. That's always super cool. We used to do the Little 600 over here at GoPro. Yeah, the GoPro. There was a lot of fan-friendly events and now I'm sitting there looking at the schedule. I'm like, man, there's nothing really happened. And now we're going to race right, doing another race. Is the All-Star in two weeks?

Three weeks. I miss the nostalgia of it, but I tell you what, I actually like the idea of, everybody getting a fair opportunity going into the 600 because it's not like 15 guys got a chance to go out there and run 60 extra laps going into the race to get their cars dialed in and get data. So I'm a fan of it from that perspective, but man, to your point, you know, growing up here in this area, I grew up an hour and a half from Charlotte, and we always went to 600 qualifying.

We always went to the All-Star qualifying because, my opinion, that's the most exciting qualifying of the year. So to miss those things, definitely missed it, but, I mean, I guess, it's, you know. I've always thought the awesome race is a great race to get kids there and, you know, show, like, it's just, there's, I mean, it's the fireworks, man, you know. It feels like a Saturday night short track race because you got kind of like. It has the energy for it.

The B main, you know, the A main, like it's just kind of what it feels like. So, I don't know. If I mean, what do you do next year? Do you put it back if you're running a sport, T.J? I either run it. I thought Bristol was okay, but I almost bring it back. I bring it back local, man. It brings the buzz in the area for two weeks here.

There's people that would take vacations to spend two weeks here and go to the races. The shops had, there was shop thing. Every shop had a kind of a day. They were doing certain things for fans. They had a fan day here. Did a show. Yeah, we did a live show. That was fun.

Dude, there was packed. I even remember back in the early 2000s, during the Charlotte Weeks. I mean, in front of DEI was ridiculous. Like the people there, the, just the atmosphere, it carried over. And it just, I think that built up to the All-Star Race, too. Like, it just kind of just built up to it and made it even bigger. Yeah.

So. We definitely don't need to do the All-Star Race in Texas again. I don't like this idea. Sorry. We're not even there yet. I hate to shoot it down. I love going to Texas. I like Texas Motor Speedway.

But to take us all the way down there to run 50 laps with all those cautions and all that crap, man, I'm not a fan of that. Yeah, I'll be there for it, but wow. So with DBC picks after CODA, Freddie wins with Chase Elliott. Two weeks in a row, he wins off with sheer luck. Gimme. Extends his lead. Score of 8 to 4 to 2 over Breton, T.J.

Time for your Charlotte Picks, T.J. You are up first. Oh, man. Can't pick him. Can I just reuse somebody again? I'm thinking the same thing. I'm out of people. I want to reuse the 19.

Can I have him again? No. Or hang on a minute here. If they're gray, you've already used them? Yeah, this is ridiculous. This kind of sucks. By the way, Chris Rice, Austin Cendrick, it was in that race. You told me it wasn't.

I mean, it wouldn't have mattered. I was okay. It was still having the other one, but I was going to definitely let them hear it. Man, I guess I'm just going to roll with. Damn, man, this is hard bell. You, that's literally the only guy I liked that I was going to pick that I hadn't picked already. Man, this was going to be tough. You just put me in a bind.

You wouldn't take Bowman at Charlotte? I'll take Bowman at Charlotte, yeah. He was good there last time. Freddie looks at me like. What are you doing over there? Freddie's already picked Bowman. At this point, Hannah, I despise my throw a grenade in the hole and hope it hits. I'll take old Bill Byron.

Because Hendrick boys are looking good I agree They are stout They're looking hot I don't know about hot Yeah Can we go with stout? Are you watching really these workout videos again?

Yikes Well, hey, it's good to be home Come see Tim Dugger if you're here in town Thursday night. Freddie will be there Are you insinuating that you're not going to be there? I don't know if I'm going to be there It's kind of gets my bedtime Ducker's in Key West.

On Thursday? You guys should go. We're going to go. Are you? Still in Key West. I'll be there. Wonder if Doug's going. Hey, I went to Big Al's last Sunday.

None of you guys were there. You did it yesterday or last Sunday? No, last week. I was off last week. Where were we at? I almost went last night. I don't know. I was there with Campbell and all them.

I almost went last night. Dover? And Tyler Mon and all them, they were all there. But it was like 1130. Sounds like a blast. A bunch of hacks. All right, well, hopefully you guys, enjoy the festivities here in Charlotte, and we will holl at y'all next week.

But we're not, hey, we will not be released. I love when people, you guys tweet when the shows are going to drop. People tweet, why aren't your show drop? Yeah. We're not recording on Monday. It's Memorial Day. And we're not recording on Tuesday. Del Junior Day.

Because, yeah, Del Junior Day over here in the glass. I got to do Del Jr. You got to do Dillner's job. Fifty-two weeks a year, Tuesdays are Dale Jr. days. So that day, our day got pushed to Wednesday. Yeah. See you Wednesday. See you Wednesday.

Make sure you hurry up and get the Dale Jr. Show done, Jason. Do it right. Oh, wait. Who's your shirt? My shirt's Kyle Frame. Just short track, right. So he sent me one to give Dale Jr.

I see your supporting old Carson over there. Yeah, I got a raceline shirt on. I see race line. I wore my raceline shirt. They're so comfy. They are super soft. I appreciated your cinema photography that you did with your little video. Yeah, with the girls.

Did you make that in your RPG room? No, we did it all outside, man. We did it all outside. Talking about short track racing. I don't know. Did you guys see... Oh, Berlin? We can't bash the guy

because I heard there might have been a medical situation. I heard... I mean, if you didn't... If look up Boris Yerkovick's wreck, I mean, it's a big wreck, and then a guy comes piling in, I'm talking 10 seconds later. It's on NBC track pass, too.

I think there's a replay of it. It's brutal. And those guys are pretty banged up. Just want to, you know, hope... They get well soon, but man, what a wreck. I mean, wow. I mean, literally, like, five seconds later, there's a camera shot. There's the NBC one that's on the front stretch, right?

Where they wreck. Then there's someone standing in three and four, and the wreck happens on the front stretch. Yeah, right in the video. The wreck happens on the front stretch, and everyone just kind of wrecks. You're like, oh, oh, no, like big car pile up. And this guy's coming down the back stretch, still through three and four and just driver's side door pile drives. Are you going to show them this? Yeah.

It makes you cringe It's one of those ones where like You could see it coming Oh I guess they both had to get cut out of the cars Yeah they like covered Yeah I don't know who the second guy was Boris Yerick's one of the

David Fretz maybe I never heard of that guy I should say I don't know who he was But yeah so Bad deal Shout out to short track racing again I mean we've been getting a lot of Hey send short track videos to us too

We love seeing him The wrench brawl Did you go see the fire from Anderson? two weeks ago also of that hobby stock guy oh that's crazy yeah any short track race and anything exciting happens i think i'm gonna go do i'm gonna go do an episode of windshield deep i think are you with huffman and them and dylan wilson yeah dylan so we'll see they we're working it out sponsored by truly talk about another show we'll see what happens there but jason why don't you have us a sponsor like that i'll work on we don't need any more liquor at this show i mean god the fans are enough of a

Oh, I have a guy, a buddy of mine that's sending in some bourbon. Oh, good. Yeah. More bourbon coming. Hopefully it's not a $500 bottle so I can open it. Have you not opened that other one? This is actually becoming kind of good because we should just have like a bourbon off where we just. Brett's been talking.

I want to have a bourbon tasting in my house. Yeah, I mean, we just have some bourbon tasting. If you got a great bourbon, I mean. And after two, you love it. Hannah, is like, I don't like, remember the last time Hannah was over? Well, she don't. I drink bourbon, but I don't remember it. And then you blew a motor.

She's like, how did I throw up? I'm like, well, all that bourbon, she's like, I don't even like bourbon. She's like, I don't even like bourbon. That was so funny. That was so bad. So we're out having beers, TJ, and I was like, hey, you guys want to? Hey, wait, it was for Doug and I's birthday. Okay. And the curfew was still 9.30 p.m.

So we started on the gas at like 6 o'clock. Yeah, like when the 930 curfew hit. Who's curfew was it? No, like the North Carolina State curfew. Oh, gosh. This was in February. So I'm like, hey, you guys just want to come back to the house, have a couple cocktails. And so, um, yeah.

Dylan proceeds to tell Hannah. He's like, you can go. I'm going home. And I'm like, okay, well, Dylan's a D.D. So Hannah's going to come back to my house and she's not going to have a driver. So I guess I said, I said, good news is my kids have met her before. It's not going to be some random blonde layout on the couch when she wakes up, right? So we get her back to the house.

Dylan came, by the way. Dylan came. I said, Dylan, you go on Brits? But Hannah rode with me. She went right with him. I said, Dylan, you go on a bread to you said, I guess. Hannah's on her way there now. I guess I got to go.

So Hannah's like, when I'm riding with you, she's mad. I was in trouble. Oh my gosh. So anyway, Hannah blew a motor. Yeah, nice. All over the side of Dylan's truck. Freddy and I got pictures the next morning. I didn't bring that up on the show, by the way, until now.

Yeah, I was waiting for it the next week. I was like, my ass is so roasting next week. You puked in Dylan's truck? Yeah. Oh, that'll be clean that off. You'd be fixing the pain on that one, too. Yeah, my excuse for you. too is this is a windling when we still lived in Harrisburg. So we went from Brett's house to Harrisburg.

45 minutes, right. And I made it till we were already off 85, Concord Parkway. Like, I was five minutes from the house before I blew a motor. Doug Campbell, on the other hand, went about drink for a drink for me, and he barely made it home, and he lived six minutes from Brett. So I like, I tried, man. I tried. Well, whatever his reasoning was, it was legit. Yours wasn't. Yeah. Just ask him. That was bad. After that, who's, who's, oh no, it was Super Bowl.

Because remember I didn't drink? Then we went to your house for the Super Bowl party and I didn't drink. I still hurt so bad after that. And you're young. Just wait. It's only going to get worse. Yeah, that's for sure. Big yikes.

All right. Thanks, everybody for listening. We love you guys. Enjoy the Charlotte races and we'll catch off after. We out, holler. Check out Dirty Mo Media on YouTube, Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram. Dirty Moe