Door Bumper Clear - 22 - The Return of KB, Plane Rides Home from Sonoma, and the Jack Rabbit

Episode Date: June 28, 2016

KB, TJ, and Brett discuss Sonoma weekend, Daytona, and answer some good #askDBC questions. Want more DBC? Check out and subscribe to the new DBC YouTube channel! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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You will not be able to repeat it to your kids, but you will learn and you will laugh. Door, bumper, clear is on. Hey, everybody. It's T.J. Majors. Spotter the 88 cup car, 7XFinity and the 29 truck. And joining me today. Brett Griffin, spotted for Clint Boyer, Elliot Sadler, and guess who's back? Hey, guys, it's KB. I'm back from the dead.

Gluten free. Gluten free, dairy. Tell us what happened. Tell us something, because you keep missing these shows and you keep telling me you're in the emergency room, but you're still tweeting. So I'm trying to figure out what the balance is here. So in Iowa on Thursday night, I had an allergic reaction because I was really stupid and I drank two beers. and I guess they were, I don't know. Wheat beers.

People I was going to say they looked super cloudy anyway so they could tell that it was bad. Anyway, my throat closed up. I had a severe allergic reaction. I got over that. And then, so my immune system was down. And then Monday night, I had a massive reaction and I got rushed to the ER.

What was that too? Something, there was trace because my immune system was so down, there was trace amounts of wheat and something and it closed my throat up and I was covered in rushed. so they had to take me to the ER and open my throat. You're the only person I know that can still live tweet and be on a ventilator. I've never seen that before. I went to the hospital at like 10 p.m.

and I got out at like 4 a.m. Did you have to go into the actual ER? Isn't that a shit show? And you lay there, you just want to be dead, and it's so loud. They keep coming in and sticking you with more things, taking more tests, taking you to places. It's like the least amount of rest I've ever gotten. You leave there and you're like, you're in a coma.

The waiting room. at the ER is the best, though, because everybody with a cold and the flu. And it's like, y'all don't have an emergency. Go to CVS, buy some drugs and go home. Right. Right. Emergency should stand for emergency. The good thing is, though, I couldn't breathe. So they take you first.

So you were gone. Yeah. You don't have to sit out there with that. They're like wheelchair. You got a big cut in your arm. You're like, she comes walking by you're like, oh, really? Yeah. Front of the line.

I'm just going to say, I can't breathe if I ever have to go back. I can't breathe. Yeah. That's a good idea. There you go. You're welcome. Are you having trouble breathing? Yes. Yes.

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Hey, so you guys are back from Sonoma, wine country. Some of us stayed the entire trip. Some took an early plane ride. Yeah. Yeah. I don't like Sonoma anymore. I don't want to go back. It was worse than Vegas for me.

We had a really easy schedule. Very easy. It's always like that there, kind of. We had an awesome sprint dinner, which T.J. completely bailed on because he had to drive Dale Jr. I got back to his room. Like the car was supposed to pick me up at 630. I got back at 645.

It was a sprint dinner? Yeah, industry dinner. Where was it? They did a low country bowl is what I would call it. I don't know what they call it out there, but instead of doing some of the things that we would normally put in there, they put lobster. So Amy Dell Jr.'s got across from me.

I've ate a ton of lobster, but I've never been given a whole lobster. And I was like, I don't know how to get the meat out of the tail. Like, I'm going to cut myself. And so she tutored me on how to get the meat out of the tail. And she rode TJ's ass, even though he wasn't there, the entire dinner. That's fine. Nothing that I'm not used to, yes.

Couldn't even tell she did, so it doesn't matter. But it was great, a lot of wine, and Clint's car catches on fire lap four, and we leave and come home. I actually have run less than that in two years there. It was thoroughly marlin one time. We ran a lap and a half in two years. We blew up. He missed a shift the first lap one year, and the next year we hit Kenny Trader in the S's after a lap. So I don't even think we ran a whole lap the first year.

He blew it up on the first lap. And then the next year we hit Schrader a lap in. What do you say? I blew it up. Pretty much, yeah. Oh, yeah. So I did see this. So TJ, I noticed, was on the team plane going out to Sonoma.

Our planes were pretty much in sync getting fuel and going to the next place. And then I get there and I see Dale Jr.'s plane is actually there. So I'm like, man, why didn't TJ on Dell Jr.'s plane? Dale Jr. did something really cool, and I've never heard of anybody doing this. Dale Jr. literally gave his plane to the crew and said, you guys take it. What? And he flew with somebody else. Really?

Yeah, he does things like that once in a while. It's nice to get them guys back, and they never get a chance to do stuff like that. And honestly, I don't know if any other drivers that have ever done that either. Not for the whole team. They've always been on the plane with the team. What is that an eight-seater? Nine. Yeah.

Yeah. That's really cool. With the toilet seat? Yeah. But that toilet seat's big as his couch. Yeah. Literally. It's not too bad.

No, any bad gig. But the good news for those guys is it probably got them six to seven more hours at home with their family, you know. Which is cool. Yeah. I mean, honestly, man, just the experience of it and stuff is probably enough for, you know, it's cool for them guys to do stuff and get to experience stuff like that. Even though, you know, they probably beat us back by an hour, maybe, a couple hour, maybe if that. Yeah. It's got a sound system on it that'll blow your mind.

It does have a good sound system in it. Cranks. Turn. Let's get turn. I'm sure they had a good time on it. Yeah. Wi-Fi and everything. What is Wi-Fi? Yeah.

I'm pretty sure they enjoyed it. I don't think Conair has Wi-Fi. The old Concierre. Yeah. Some of the planes have screens, though. Great landings. So Junior Motorsports flies on Concierge. We do.

To explain what we're talking about. And it's not the best. It's a chartered plane with a bunch of teams going out every. it's a 737 landing at Concord regional and it's like landing on an aircraft carrier you will get a shock up your ass every time they land you're like oh not again so one of our one of my co-workers she does the PR on the 88

she had two kidney stones and they weren't moving oh they fixed that and one of the landings was so hard coming into Concord that it dislodged her kidney stone and she screamed and the doctor's like yep you probably shouldn't be flying on that fly commercials But he's like, I wouldn't. Have you ever fallen on it?

Oh, yeah. We took off. We left here. I forget where we were going. Maybe Sonoma years ago. They said, we're going to New Orleans for fuel, which isn't a problem. Like, whatever. So you go to New Orleans, you get fuel.

We're going down the runway. We take off. And then we land. And we take off again. And the wings are going side to side. I'm like, we're getting ready. Cartwheel all the way down this runway. Catch on fire.

And I don't like flying anyway. I was like, we're dead. The oxygen mask are coming out. You know, people are picking up their seat cushions and found them through their ass. It's not good. Yeah, that doesn't sound. There's been a few hard landings on them things. Yeah.

When they touch down at Concord, I mean, it's a. You know you land. They don't touch down. There's no touching in them. That's when you wear your seatbelt. I forgot to when we were coming back from. I don't know where we were. I was sitting next to one of our guys on the seven Honda.

Or big country. I don't know, one of them. And I was dead asleep and we landed so hard he had to do the mom arm. Yeah, the mom arm. Because I went flying into the seat in front of me. Yeah. Oh. I was awake then.

Not good. Anyway, so you guys want to go into some spot on, spot off? Yeah, I don't know we have a lot of talk about today. Yeah, is there much to talk about? No, so how about old chicken man versus Gallagher at Gateway, the Hugfest 2016? That was the best fight and worst fight that I've ever seen. It was the best fight because it never happens, and it went for about a minute, and... Nobody else carried around it. That's the best part.

You could see the officials just looking... You know, I watched it again, and I could hear the sound real good, and you could hear the crowd. Like, the gateway crowd was cheering. Yeah. It was pretty entertaining. I mean... I saw Casey Caney had breakfast Sunday morning, and he said, man, what did you think about that fight? And I said, I'm not real sure what to think yet.

He said, I've never been in a fight, but I could beat both those guys up at the same time. I mean, literally, the whole NASCAR garage has looked at that now and said, if I'm going to have to get in a fight, I hope it's one of those guys, because I cannot lose. It's like, I mean, I'm not real sure what the leg hook was. That was the best part. That was at least trying. The rest was like, and we're dancing, and we're dancing. I'm not really sure why you back yourself, you slam yourself into the racetrack with another guy on top of you.

He body slammed himself. Yes. I don't understand that. But I did hear that, uh, spent, who got on the plane and had two black eyes. Wow. Yeah. From himself?

And actually, if you watch it again, you watch it slow, he actually does get hit. Yeah, chicken man hit him a couple of times, but, I mean, they didn't look very hard on TV. Well, Chicken Man is now Tony Stewart's hero. One of the toughest guys in the sport now likes a guy that likes to hug other guys and try to leg hook them and whatever else that was. I don't know what it was. Yeah, do you hear that? Yeah, it's in the show.

What is it? I don't know. Maybe draining the old out of a car or something. I don't know. Yeah, the leg hook, I'm not really sure about the leg hook. I'm not either. And they, yeah, I don't know. It's an awkward fight all around.

Like, there wasn't. Super awkward. It was like a hockey fight. Yeah. Nah. I mean, he had a hold of his arm, kind of, and they couldn't really swing real hard. Yeah, they're not from Pagel of South Carolina.

Either one of them. Spencer Gallagher, like, it's like he didn't want a fight, and John West just didn't know how to fight. but now he's Tony Stewart's hero. It's the perfect spot-on, spot-off question, or not question, but statement. Spot-off for me. Yeah. I mean, it's it's, I like spot on for the emotion to show a little bit of emotion that you're, you know, apparently these guys have a past.

Yeah. Apparently they have been in some marker wrecks together and stuff and aren't real, real, real happy with each other. But I did read Spencer's, did you read his apology yesterday? No. He apologized to you. basically everybody track fans yeah

John West was it like a PR written apology or I mean I don't know I'm gonna go with the PR yeah I mean it included everybody because he's like he's embarrassed about it and stuff which I probably would be too

if I had a fight like that on national TV well I don't think he wanted to fight did he? I don't know he got pushed first yeah he did I mean they came after him I know that would end I'm not even sure he threw a punch. I don't think he didn't.

He didn't. He didn't. He was obviously he didn't want to fight. Yeah. So today, who do you think, do you think who gets to find? I would not find anybody, but that's me. I mean, you know what's going to happen. If they come down, they'll probably find both of them and they'll find John

West a little more. Yeah. And then they'll use that for every clip from here on out to sell tickets. Spot on, spot off. The 78 owner says, in order to keep Martin Truex Jr., a sponsor is needed. I don't know. I really don't know. You've got to keep him.

You can't let that guy walk now. I don't understand. I'm very much spot off on this one because I don't understand how one of the top performing drivers in the sport is in this scenario. Well, let me tell you how he's in the spot because somebody else is coming. It's Eric Jones, it's Daniel Sores. Somebody, Matt Kenseth maybe gets moved over there from JGR. Somebody is coming in to take Martin Truex's seat because there's an alliance. Now with Toyota and alliance with JGR and clearly things are out of your control to retain a guy like Martin when you have to say well a sponsor is needed right now you're the sponsor and the owner so what's changing well something's changing that we just don't know all the facts to yet and it sucks.

Yeah I don't I don't that's weird that at this situation will even be brought up or even into the the light you know I'm surprised even hear about it. You know I don't know spot off for sure Martin needs that he's finding a good. He's finding a good. good home there. I feel that's a great fit for him. And I don't, you know, honestly, I don't know. I feel like he's taking that team to the very next level where they need to be. And, and, uh, it's a good fit. Martin's an exfinity series champion. He goes to DEI on the cup side. Does well, but not great. Then he went it twice. Yeah. Yeah. Does well, but not great. Goes to M.W.R. Wends race is, does well, not great. Gets here, he's killing it. If you just told T.J. and I 10 years ago, when Kenny Wallace was driving his furniture row car, hey, 10 years from now, Martin Truex is going to get in that car and he's

to be a championship contender. We'd have both said, no way. He is. So how is a guy that's a championship contender even being considered to be fired? Come on. I mean, Kurt Bush was there. And couldn't do nothing but wreck trying to run. Yeah. I mean, he would try to run 8th and wreck. Rec. Yep. And Martin, we're chasing him half the time. Yeah. Yeah. He's fast this weekend again in Sonoma. I mean, he's fast everywhere you go. Mm-hmm. Spot on, spot off. Brad Kowalski is considering an Indy 500 run. Spot on. I like guys going to do another things. I mean, I personally would not go run that race. It's way too dangerous.

And I don't think our guys are, not that they can't do it, but there's just a whole, it's not like backing a cup car into the wall. It's a big difference wrecking an indie car at places like that. So spot on for branching out, but personally a championship driver that's still running for championships, probably shouldn't be going and doing it. Yeah, and I say spot off, just to TJ's point. It's dangerous, no experience. I know our guys can go drive their cars and do well.

We've seen it, you know, even as recently as Kurt Busch. Their guys usually can't come get in our cars and do well. So I like what he's thinking, but somebody needs to tell him to think differently. Spot on, spot off. Eight different winners in the last eight races. Spot on, man. You know, NASCAR screams parity and multiple winners. Well, we're doing it.

Doing it well. Yeah, it's pretty cool. Spot on. At least you all, everyone, you know, you never know who could. It could be anybody this weekend, too. So we might have nine next week. Spot on, spot off. Brett's plane ride home in which he live tweeted it,

which was very entertaining. That's because of Wi-Fi. My plane ride was definitely spot on. It was four hours and a half of a lot of fun. Maybe one shot, six bottles of wine, couple mixed drinks. We were drowning our sorrows. And it worked to the point that I had to call a car server. us halfway across the state of Utah and say, hey, when I land, I can't drive.

So when I got home, my wife was ecstatic with my decision to be responsible. She was like, oh, it's still bad at home. She's not speaking to me yet. What time did you get home? I don't know. It had to be a decent time. I tweeted, I guess. Probably 11-ish.

Ask Claudia. I don't know, man. I got nothing. Spot off, man. Performance like you had. Performance like you gave, man. You don't deserve Wi-Fi. on the way home.

You don't deserve that Wi-Fi and all that. You should be punished. Alcohol is good for celebrating, and it's also good for just having a tear in your beer. Well, we had a lot of tears in our beers. Stunning. Yes. All right, you guys want to do some Fastlane? Only if you're going to say the word rebuttal.

All right. If you don't know what Fastlane is, I'm going to give TJ and Brett a topic to debate, and we're going to alternate who responds first, and then the person who went first gets the rebuttal. So four are going to be racing to non-racing, and here we go. Brett, you're going to start, okay? Okay. Tony Stewart takes home the victory at Sonoma over Denny Hamlin. Can Smoke pull off another win in his last year of full-time competition? We got asked a similar question when Tony came back and we said, or I said, Tony Stewart can win and here's why. Not because he's one of the greatest drivers to ever live, but because the 14 team was fast.

It was fast with Brian Vickers in the car. It was fast with Ty Dillon in the car. Fast cars go fast. have chances to win. Tony pulled off a win. Can he get another win this season? Absolutely. Yeah, Tony, he's type of guy too that once he gets rolling, he gets hot. So there's no doubt in my mind that Tony can, you know, find victory lane again. It might be at Martinsville. It might be at Watkins Glen. It might be at Talladega or Daytona. Who knows? I mean, he's won at all them tracks before. So there's no doubt in my mind that if, you know, things play out right, he can, And you know, you give Tony the lead with 20 to go, and he's one of them guys that are going to be hard to get around.

Yeah. I honestly think he can go back this weekend to Daytona and go back to back. I really do, because he's really good at plate tracks. It's hotter during the summer. When we go back, it's really slick to TJ's point. During the summer, Tony usually catches on fire anyway. The slicker it is, the better he runs. So I would not be surprised to see him win back-to-back races this weekend.

T.J. Fox finished their last race of 2016 in Sonoma. Furthermore, they bestowed the Bernsey Award to Spotter Chris Osborne. How happy was the spotter community to have one of your own honored with this award? I think it was really cool to see somebody like crazy. If you would have saw him in the off season after that accident, you would understand what all he's went through. I saw him a day after he was in an accident in the hospital and he was in an enormous mind of pain. I can't even imagine what his wife was going through and even his son. So for them to fight through everything they fought through and come back and to have him back at the track

and his wife's recovering and his son's perfectly fine now, they've been through a lot. It was a rough period. So I'm, you know, I think I was, it's awesome for them to give it to one of us and look at somebody like him and give it to them. Yeah, I mean, when you look at our sport, it, from the outside in, it looks like it's about racing. From the inside in, it's about people, partnerships, relationships. And I think that, you know, Chris's injury probably brought our position and our peers closer together because, yes, we compete against each other, but we also all came together to support him and his family. Very, very happy to see him win this award. Yeah, if you knew Chris, we call him crazy.

If you knew crazy, you would under, I mean, he's been a straight-up guy his whole career. Brett's right, it's a big family, so it's awesome to see a family member get an award like that. Brian France mentioned the possibility of changing the location of the All-Star Race from Charlotte. Where would you like to see that race go if it does change, Brett? Well, we change everything else around here. We may as well change that too, I guess. I'm not a big fan of seeing it leave Charlotte because it's an opportunity for us to kind of have a chill weekend at home and be close to our families and bring our kids out to the track. And, you know, it's an easy two-day show for us.

If we're going to move it, let's go to Bristol, let's go to Richmond, let's go to Martinsville. Let's go somewhere small. Let's go somewhere close by. We don't need to be venturing way the hell out there to do this deal. Yeah, I definitely think I want it to be away from a mile and a half. And I don't think we need to go to a plate track. that's going to be, we'll have two bigger wrecks to do that. So we can't really go to Dayton or Talladeg,

even though it'd be exciting, but we can't risk all the drivers' health like that for an all-star race. But I think it would be awesome if we ran it at a Martinsville or something like that. They can't really get away from each other and they don't really get aerotight. I was talking to a good buddy of mine named Mike Herman,

spots for Stenhouse, and he said, you know what we need to do for the All-Star races? We need to go back to the 1980 package and let these guys, these teams build a car. just like that same exact bodies they ran in the 80s and let them do it so I'd rather see us do something like that than to start moving this thing all around road courses have always displayed some exciting racing in NASCAR should NASCAR consider adding a road course to the chase yeah I'm all for it I think um I think it splits it up and it's another aspect you need to be

good at all year I'm and they're mostly they're exciting races and honestly it doesn't uh the fastest car doesn't always win. Tony wasn't the fastest car all weekend. But if you play the, you get the dishrag right, if you get the dishrag caution right, you can be put up front. But it's just exciting. It's good races and stuff.

So I definitely think we could use one in the chase. I think the championship is about diversity and the ability to run well on all sorts of tracks. I think we may have one mile and a half too many in the chase. So I'd love to see us extract one of those, put in a road course. I would actually like to see the check. kick off in Montreal, you know, take our international audience, go up there before it gets

too cold. Yeah, I'm down for a road race being in the chase for sure. The off-the-wall topic, several top golfers, including Jason Day, who is the world number one, and Roy McElroy have pulled out of the Rio Olympic Games through the Zika virus. Do you agree with athletes pulling out of the games to health concerns in the host country? Brett. For one, why are we playing golf in the Olympics? For two, I don't know a lot about this. Zika virus, but if I didn't want to get it, yeah, man.

I mean, it's your personal choice not to put you and your family at risk. I mean, you know, the Olympics is a big deal. And I like really to see the Olympics focus on non-professional athletes. These guys are professional golfers. I would rather see college players playing in the basketball side. And, man, I'm not even down with this whole golfer thing happening. Well, being how there's an Olympic sport for everything almost. Yeah.

You know, I understand. Curling made it. Shuffleboard. Shuffleboard curling. It's all in there. Sim racing's probably in there somewhere. But I don't blame them for not wanting to go and do that. Who knows?

Maybe they're trying to have a kid. I don't know. I mean, I wouldn't if I was trying to. Yeah. Especially for, you know, nothing against the Olympics, but it's just, you know, part of it there. I went to the Olympics in 1996. They're really, really fun. Yes, in Atlanta.

Did you compete? I was in college and beer drinking. I won several awards during that week. Man, such a great time for the whole world to come together and compete together. It's unfortunate we've got this Zika thing going on. It looks like Zima on this piece of paper. So I was a little bit confused when I first read this question. Did you see the commercial for the new Zimas?

Uh-uh. We got new Zimas coming out. Was it Zimas or they were flavored differently, I think. I don't know. Yeah, I'm pretty sure. It was on TV. I haven't seen a Zima since like high school. That's what I almost said, but I didn't want to.

I was like, man, we drank those in high school. Like Mike's Hard Lemonade. We put Jolly Ranchers in them. That's what these look like. Really? Yeah, I'm not kidding. Zima's coming back. Maybe it wasn't a Zima.

I don't know. I swear it said Zima because I was like, dang, look at that. Zima's got colored drinks now. My sister named her Golden Retriever Zima. Nice. Class. Was that in her drinking days? Yes.

Okay. Okay. All right. Hey, let's talk about one thing before we dive in this thing. Did you see, okay, I was watching the last lap of the race from the plane. And when Denny made a move on Tony going into turn seven. You had Wi-Fi and cable? Going in, you watch it on Wi-Fi.

Denny made a move on Tony going into turn seven on the last lap, and our freaking Wi-Fi froze up. So Clint, who was pulling for Tony as hard as he can, obviously going into that car next year, he is screaming before it freezes up, when it freezes up. When it freezes up, I thought he was going to crash the plane. So have you seen the last lap? I watched it. You did? Yeah, I watched it.

Did you see how wide open Denny left the door getting into the last corner? Yeah, and I know why I did it. You know why I did. I saw it. We all saw it coming. Yeah. You got a guy that's basically going to refuse to lose back here. Yeah.

And he's already been bumped once. So he is not. He's going to pay you back. Danny either moves run. And everyone's like, oh, Danny missed the corner. Denny didn't really miss the corner. He couldn't miss it that bad. Denny goes in there on the bottom, he's

getting wrecked. Yeah, getting rooted. And Danny actually was very smart about it. The only Tony still had to use him up to win the race, because Danny was going to beat him off the corner. Of course he was. So Danny still made the good shot,

and if Tony didn't get a nose in front of him, he wasn't going to be able to do that to Danny. Yeah. So Danny actually made a very smart move. It was going to end up that way if he could get to him. Yeah. And Tony actually didn't get through the

S is very well at all. No. Way behind. Denny actually put some ground between him and Tony in the S's and, man, it got, I knew it was going to happen. I was wondering if we were going to get a spot out of it or not or two or something, maybe three if somebody else comes in there. Yeah.

And it was interesting, though, but Danny made a pretty bold move into seven, too. I'm not really sure he was, I'm not really sure. He had position, not. He would never have completed the pass. Right. Because Tony would have beat him. without contact with Tony right there. So he knew since he initiated that contact,

Tony was going to initiate the next contact no matter what. Yeah. I don't think Denny realized how much better he got through the S's than Tony. I don't think you would have left the door that open because it's going to be hard for Tony to get completely there and literally not just have to take him out to win the race. Yeah, but I think that would have happened. Yeah.

It may have happened. I think it would have been a fear. That's all I was telling Clint. I was like, Tony is not going to lose this race. He is going to win at all cost. He knows the importance of this win, Yeah, that's what I'm saying. He did, but he got a little bit of an assist from the 11.

Certainly these people saying, oh, Danny let him win, they're idiots, okay? You don't let somebody win a sprint cup race. You don't let somebody win a title fight. Like, this is a big deal. Denny didn't give this away. He just played it out in his mind of, here's what I think I need to do in this last corner, and it wasn't the right thing. He may not have been able to do it right thing.

Where Tony would have hit Denny, he would have spun. Yeah. If he would have ran the bottom. That's what he said he is. But it could have spun Tony, too, depending on how he hit him. Tony could have got caught up in it. For sure. comes Ligono around both of them and celebrates.

Yeah. So, but Tony, you can't hit in turn 11. After you, when you start breaking, you can hit a little bit, but that just shows a person up the track. And after that, if you hit in the middle of the corner, the guy in front of he was basically going to spin out. Yeah. So, and that's, I think Tony was going to, he was going to do whatever it took.

He was, it was really cool to watch the closing laps. And I don't know it was hard for TJ to see all of this, but Tony wheel hopped really bad getting in, I believe, turned forward. with about three to go. Like, these guys were trying so hard. They were making a ton of errors. Like in the spotters, you see that and you're like, man, just calm down and do what you've been doing all day.

But they're on edge and they're both screwing up and that was making the race great. And I'm sitting there going, man, like, I know those little new tires. We get a caution here. These dudes are going to both be in trouble, but fortunately it did end of the way it did. Yeah, even on the last lap into that corner, in the four with the right-hander there, Tony gave up a lot of ground. A lot of ground. Like, that's where the, that's where the, when I saw, I thought Tony had it.

Yeah. because Denny really wasn't close enough to make any moves. And then in the four there, I saw the gap close up, and it was like three car wings. It had been when Tony Wilhoffed is so bad because he missed it one time. Oh, that's where Danny got to him. And it was like, I was like, oh, okay, now we got a race. Yeah. So it was a heck of a show.

It's cool for Fox. It's always a good race there. He's done a lot for our sport to have a barn burner as their last cup race. You know, I mean, you got, let's talk about that for a minute. Fox has got champions on air. Whether you agree with what they say or not, they got Jeff Gordon, Darrell Waltrip, Michael Waltrip, who's won two Daytona 500s, that's a championship in our sport. So, I mean, they have a lot of enthusiasm and a lot of experience and a lot of championships.

So whatever you think about their broadcast, man, their credentials on those guys are amazing. So it's cool they had something of this caliber to finish their little run here before NBC gets here. Yeah. Your boy, the Tart's coming back to work. Yeah, we'll see him up there probably around the roof here the next couple weeks for sure. But hey, what about, Sonoma's like the tightest garage area you could be in. Yeah. And yet we park cars in there and do all this stuff and nobody ever has a problem.

No. You ever notice that? Yeah. Yeah, we go to a place that's huge and we can't even get into a lot that's even near the garage. No. Like, it's ridiculous. I was just thinking about that. Yeah, the logistics of some of our parking scenarios is really weird.

And you never have a run-in with, you never have a run-in with a work. Security guard. Yeah, never. Like they are just straight up doing their jobs And they don't like It's just a good place to go I don't know This speedway over here in Concord

This is pretty Pretty bad Got a humongous infield Camp parking Camp Park Yeah I don't know why either Lots of lots of room So hashtag AskDBC

We picked some questions Josh and I did yesterday Oh you helped this week Now we can blame you too If you hate them You can give all of your Blame Kristen To both of us

Kristen Bowers on here? She is. I asked a question. What? Text us next time. No kidding. At old swamp donkeys asks. Oh, swamp donkeys.

Why does NASCAR run with a rear deck fin on the cars at the road courses? Old swamp donkeys. What the heck is a swamp donkey? I figured someone from Page in South Carolina would know what they did. I really don't know what a swamp donkey. Sounds like a great. Great fantasy football team name, though. The old swamp donkeys.

I bet this guy's from Mississippi. North Florida. Either or. But the shark fin, or the deck fin, I call the shark fin, basically. Yeah, that's what you all call it, pretty much. I don't, you know, I don't know if there's any particular reasoning for it

other than we run it everywhere else, basically, as far as I know. Yeah, it seems like short-track stuff. You know, I know we've, play with it a lot on certain tracks too but man we're on the roof we can't see all these fins and stuff yeah honestly i didn't even notice they were on the cars believe it or not i think they just it's it's a it's a downforce thing that and you know you're used to have it or not there might as well keep running it yeah we'll text an engineer we'll get back to you yeah at dustin 2488 asks after your driver

falls out early have you ever wanted to stay at the track and watch the rest of the race or just get on a plane and get wasted face that's a good question question. Clint actually did this time. Clint fell out very early and he went to a buddy's campsite and I think drank a beer with him and ate what he said was the best sandwich of his life. His buddy was Guy Fierry. Nice. Yeah. He left that out earlier. He did have a good sandwich. A little spiky hair guy. Yeah, a little spiky blonde-headed dude. Diner's drive-ins and dives. But, you know, to watch a whole race, no. No. Yeah, I don't, usually you're so mad. or you're disappointed and you're finished already

that you don't really want to stick around. Yeah. So we watch 100 races a year between T.J. and I. And these guys do too. And they're not in the race car. They're still watching races. But no, you're ready to go home. Do you guys, have you ever flown charter back from like West Coast and fallen out early

and have to wait like on all the rest of the people? I don't. I mean, I've wrecked out of Sonoma and had to wait for the team playing before. Yeah, we've done that. If I hadn't fallen home with Clint, I'd have waited around seven hours. Those stories about Sterling? Yeah, we were at a bar by the airport by like lap 30. Yeah.

So, yeah. For five hours. Yeah. We had a lot of time. Yeah. Okay, got it. Yeah. But yeah, you don't want to stick around.

Michigan, we were out. I mean, when you're crashed, you're done. You're going home. Yeah, you want out of that area. Yeah. At Ready Mix Trick S. How can a driver get better at their restarts? You just skipped yourself.

I was going to put mine at the end. Save the best for last. I can I drive them to have their restart. There's a lot of ways they can get better at their restarts. You know, the biggest thing to do is watch people who are successful at being good at restarts, which right now is Kyle Busch. It's Chase Elliott. You know, back in the day it was Ron Hornaday's.

You know, you got to be. Literally watching. Watch film. Watch film. Watch what they're doing because your car is going to do different things in different air. And it always seems like those guys know how to find that grip. Now, when you get to these mile and a half, the reality is if you're on the bottom and you're on the fourth road, there's not much you can do unless you make it three while getting into one. But if you're on the top, there's a lot of things you can do to get a good runoff to.

Yeah, you can also, if you're around, if drivers are around other drivers they know and trust, they'll manipulate the restarts themselves. You'll see hand signals and stuff like that when, you know, if I'm, if I got a teammate behind me me and I'm getting ready to, we're coming down to the restart box and I'm leading, you know, I'm going to, I'm going to start waving my hand out the window and tell him to, I'm going, so he can come up there. and give me some pushing and try to clear the other lane. So you can manipulate the resource,

and that's totally legal, but there's nothing wrong with that. No. And you can also, being back four or five rows, you want to get a run at a place like Charlotte and Atlanta that have dog legs too, because there's lanes to pass, and you want to be on the offensive rather than defensive. So if you can work,

I think there's a certain communication you can add with a spot or two, and like I count the, I count the leader down to the box. And I call the green off the leader. Yeah. And you actually, once your driver starts getting to the point where he knows what you're talking about and you're around good cars up there, they're going to rerroll him pretty

good. So you can try to give him a little bit of a jump. If you anticipate it just a little bit, the further you get back, the harder it is to do. But if you're in, you know, second, third, fourth, fifth row, something like that, you can do it a little bit. It's fun for us to do restarts now because there are. all double file. They used to be single file.

And the only thing that would make it double file is when the lap cars were on the bottom. Well, now you've put the slower cars in the preferred lane. So it took a while for the racing to catch back up once you went green. Now when you go green, it's like, well, ah! And also, if you go to some of these places where it's like just long enough to maybe stretch it, and it's just long enough to maybe get tires, you've got some guys that stay out. And then you look at it and they're like, I'm not going to lie. When I saw Tony stay out, I was like, oh, man, I hope we're in the other row.

Yeah. You know, because normally tires take off pretty good there. Yeah. But like we talked about, he was going to do whatever it took to. Yeah, for sure. It's really cool when you get to the situation, TJ's talking about earlier where guys are around you that you trust to know and you see a guy up there that maybe shouldn't be there. You know, you see a guy that you're like, man, this guy shouldn't be here. No, you strategically know what to do to get rid of him.

And that's same things happen on restart. You're like, okay, I'm running sixth. In front of me is the 83 car who hasn't run top 20 all day. Like, we're going to check him back this dude quick. And you bump him, make him three wide in the middle, and he's gone. Well, you just know, like... He gone. He gone.

If you're a couple cars behind that guy, you know the car in front is going to be making a move on him. So you know, no matter what, you have to follow that guy in front of you, you can leave another lane open because that guy is going to be in it. The slow car is going to be coming back in it. So the guy behind you gets a run. drives it in there, he's going to get held up. Yeah. So there's an, and honestly, that's

become a big part of spotting, too. That's one way you can help your driver out, and that's become resorts, especially a mile and a ass and stuff, are really important. For sure. So Martinsville's huge. Good question, ready, mixed chick.

At Draft Tours 88S, what are your top three favorite paint schemes of all time? Wow. Mine are pretty easy. Del Earnhardt Rangler paint scheme, beautiful race car. Now that it's actually sitting behind me, the Dell Jr. version of it.

I forgot who spotted that one. Yeah. The David Pearson Chattanooga-choo paint scheme. The Chattanooga-chew? I'm going to have to go Google. I think you just like saying it. That was a beautiful race car. I mean, I was tiny back then watching races.

And then I'll have to say, and this one's kind of weird, but we ran a black and white M&M's paint scheme at Daytona years ago with Elliot. That was a pretty race car, too. Those are my top three favorite. That's cool. Yeah, I like the Rangelcar is definitely my top three. I don't know, man. There's been so many good retro schemes now.

Especially Darlington. Yeah, there's so many cool ones that come back. I'm trying to think of what my... I honestly feel like we should run more retro schemes. They should offer a bit of purse for doing it. If you run a retro scheme, you get... It's tough, man, because these sponsors have so much equity. and building their brand and building that consistency that the more you shake it up,

the harder it is to identify their marks and they're, you know, that's, that's, it's tough. It's cool, but it's tough. I got to go with the Wrangler car being my all-time favorite scheme, probably. Beautiful race car. Yeah. I really like a lot of cars from the late 80s and early, like really late 80s, mid-to-late 80s are probably my favorite cars. I think Bill Elliott's car always stands out. The Melling car, their Corr's car always stands out to me.

and the city Chevrolet, 46 car. Yeah. Cold trickle. Yep. That one always kind of stands out. Kristen has no idea what we're talking about. I have no idea. Midnight.

I go Google it. The Millet Junior draft car. I also, yeah, they all. I really like that one, too. The great ghost always stands out to me as well. That's always been one of my, but it's got to have the chrome numbers. Yeah. As well as a skull bandit.

Yeah. Handsome Harry. Yeah. Do you know who that is? I do. Yeah. Do you know why they call them, what is it, Mr. September or October? What is it?

I thought that was a baseball thing. No, not with this guy because he wanted five races in a row. Yeah, that's the answer to that question. I thought it was a baseball thing. And he was 50 years old when he did it. Really? Yeah. Yeah.

What are they doing then? You know someone was going on. But you know, it's kind of weird because, like, you know, you've seen all these different movements. Like, Dale Jarrett's career didn't take off until he was almost 40. And then, boom, he blows up and wins championships, 30 plus races, won all the majors, one the brickyard, one the Southern 500, one Daytona 500. I mean, just, and some guys, you know, I remember Michael Walter in 2000, 2001, like went through

this spad of saying, man, I'm, you know, I'm 37. I'm in my prime, and I'm thinking, dude, you're 37. You're old. I was 23. I'm thinking, dude, you're old. But, I mean, he literally, that's when he started winning races. And it's like, man, it's weird. And then you see some of these young guys coming here and do well.

You see some of them coming here and struggle. And it's like, hey, man, they're just not in their prime yet. when your butt and your brain catch up to one another. Yeah, I was just going to ask you in certain sports when you're younger, that's when your prime is, obviously, because your body is more. I think racing is a little bit different. You just get so more, you get smarter every race. Every race you run, you learn something, and that just goes in.

You might not even know what it is. You might not be able to pinpoint what you learn that race, but something is going to stick in your head and you're going to remember it down the road. It's going to help you win races, and every little bit, you know, helps. Do you think there's an age that? drivers should think about retiring or no? How old is Mike Harmon? So going back to the point that we're talking about, you look at Jeff Gordon.

He gets here, exceptional talent. He wrecks 13 times as a rookie. And like you see that guy and you're like, well, I don't know, man. Well, he obviously learned a lot from it because then he comes back and boom, he sets the world on fire. But I think there's that line between getting here and realizing the edge and realizing if I wreck it may hurt and then taking all that experience and putting it together. Some guys put it together quickly.

You know, everybody has for some dang reason. They talk about this sophomore slump. You know, like you'll come in here and have a stellar rookie year and then you have a sophomore slump and then it's like you, and we saw Larson do it. It might even be, sometimes it's not even a sophomore slump. It's even a little bit later than it sometimes. But, you know, our sport is definitely different than like football and all that. By 37 in football, you are used up.

Yeah. To your point, is there a mandatory reason? retirement age. You know, I don't think any sport has that. I certainly think we have some guys out there now that aren't helping us any. I don't think age and racing matters that much. I mean, you could- If you suck, you know, and you're old.

I mean, you could have a, you might have a-look at William Byron. I mean, Morgan Shepherd. He didn't start race until four years ago. Morgan Shepherd was, yeah, Morgan Shepherd was pretty dang good back in the day. I mean, this guy won in the 90s with the Wood Brothers at Michigan. A lot. and very competitive. If you go back and watch his old races, man, Morgan Shepherd, Morgan Shepherd, Morgan

Shepherd. Well, now he's racing for Jesus, and he's not racing well. So, you know, maybe Jesus needs to send him a message, a text message or something. Jesus, take the wheel? And just be like, man, you know what, Morgan, it's time to get somebody else in your car. And let him go get a young guy and see if he can do a little better. I think Jeff did it right. He was competitive in his last year.

He knew it was time. Yeah. So even Tony's probably doing it right. Tom is probably doing it right. Yeah. It's hard for me to watch those guys that are doing it right, though, because I'm like, man, we're going to miss Jeff Gordon. Man, we're going to miss Tony Stewart.

He was competitive. He was in the chase last year, man. He could be in it this year. And now Tony's in it this year. I mean, so it's hard to see guys hang it up in their prime, but at the end of the day, man, if they can walk away that proud, good for them. Because we're watching some of these guys go out like heels. And then that sucks.

I don't like watching guys that were really, really good. Like, I'm not sure I'd like watching Jeff Gordon run 15th to 20th every race and struggle with it. It was hard to watch Darrell Walter up in the late 90s. early 2000s because he went from being an 83 race winner two-time champion missing the Coke 600, missing the Brickyard 400, buying Carl Long's ride just to be in the race and putting Kmart on the side of the car. So man, that was heartbreaking, you know, so I'm glad we don't have to see everybody do that. But no, I don't think there's an age limit though, man. I don't think so. If you can drive, you can drive. If you start at age 20, if you're tired, you quit at age 36, quit at 40,

quit at 50. Yeah. I mean, maybe. Maybe. there's an if you finished worse than 30th, 10 times in a row, you need to quit. It has nothing to do with your age. Without wrecking, too. You suck. Yeah. It's true. Do you think Mike Harmon sucks?

Listen. I think that's an established fact at this point. Yeah. I don't, as I've driven before it, I don't understand how you can go down to the corner knowing the leaders are coming or whoever's coming and not run the bottom. knowing that you're going to, how do you not lift early enough and get out of the way and roll it in and run the line? Because you're an idiot.

That's how. I don't, I mean, I've driven at Bristol, Charlotte and stuff. And I know, I mean, not that I got a lap, but I just know when they're coming or, you know, you just know how to get out of the way. Can't fix stupid. Cannot. All right. So I had a question.

I was with my nieces and nephews. And I was just curious if you guys would be cool with your kids getting involved in racing. and if not what sports you would prefer them to play. Golf. You guys are both athletic. You know, my thing for growing up racing is racing is expensive. Very. And I'm going to say this, baseball for boys right now, again, very expensive because travel ball costs a lot of money.

Girls with softball cost a lot of money. You know, there's certainly guys that can go up and pick up a basketball in a pair of $100 shoes and be very competitive and get to the sport. When it comes to getting your kids involved in racing, if they're going to drive, it costs. a lot of money because you got to buy the race car you got to buy the tires you got to buy the trailer you got to buy the truck to pull the trailer when you get to the track you got to buy $200 worth of food like it adds up to race tj raced he knows exactly what i'm talking about i've had a lot of friends obviously that raced i would love to see my kids get involved in the sport but not

necessarily as drivers yeah because daddy can't afford it when i started racing it was really really rough we didn't have a garage we rolled my car out in the yard and put it on four blocks that my dad made and we worked on my yard if it rained we didn't work on the car um i mean i had to talk i actually legitimately talked my mom into skipping car payments and stuff to you to buy tires that week otherwise i was it's rough when you start out like i would i would beg her uh you know look we're going to run good here this is one i'm a better track so you can have winning money and pay your car you know i was actually talking her into skipping car payments and stuff to to go race that weekend.

Yeah. And I went and sold my car. I don't know if I told you. I sold all the spots of my car for local stuff like nitrogen bottles. I went to a local place, put them on a car, got tired of Nitrogen Bottles Street. Body shop. If I got any damage to my car, I could take it over there and then fix the body up for free. And I didn't have much expense, but it's rough when you first start racing.

But I think I would keep Madeline. If she wanted to race, I would probably stand behind her, but I don't think she's going to. I put her on her full wheeler, and she knows. two speeds. Stop and full throttle. And it scared me to death already. And if I wasn't half, I was riding with my knee on the back and, you know, kind of helping her.

And I thought we were going to flip. So that's, racing's probably not going to. Speaking of flipping. Is you? I'll see Jay Leno's video? No. No. Oh my God.

You've got to watch it. It is, thank God he's okay. It is the funniest video I've ever seen. He's in that car that did all those wheelies back in the day. And they completely restore it. And the guy who originally drove it is now about 90, and they let him drive it. So he goes...

Should have retired. I think Clint told me this is like a 2,000 horsepower motor. Like they're pulling these wheelies on. So they go hauling ass doing a wheelie, doing a wheelie. They sit the car back down. This 90-year-old guy decides he's going to hang a left running about 190, and he barrel rolls with it. And Leno...

The old guy? Leno's windows down. So he's trying to keep his arm from flailing out and losing his wrist. Oh, my God. It is epic video. I'm sure it's viral by now with 77 million views or something crazy. Yeah, speaking of flipping, you don't want to do that. No.

We did a ride-along at Charlotte one time, and Deljuring took some people, some friends down there, and one of the guys, they had a camera in there. He went up by the wall, and as soon as he went down to match it by the wall, and then he went off into the corner and settled her off in there. He'd been running the bottom. That guy was grinning, and he always laughing, and all of a sudden he put her up by the wall, and he took his right arm and tucked it inside the armrest. He literally took his arm and tucked it in.

inside the armrest was like, no, I'm not having this. I'm not down. Yeah. So that, I can see why Jay would have done that. Yeah. But when this shows over, we got to watch it because it's hysterical. I would, uh, I'd pick any sport from Allen, though. If she liked golf, I'd softball, don't, please don't be softball, something like that. Anything.

I've already sat through enough dance classes that I feel like I've put my duty in. Yeah. So, yeah. But whatever they want. The hard thing for girls is girls as they're little, they want to play with Barbie dolls. And boys want to play with race cars. So boys want to race. Well, girls don't want to race.

Well, then girls decide they want to race. Well, a boy's already been racing for seven or eight years. And you hate to say it's to their detriment. But if you start something at seven and I start at 14, you got seven years experience on me. And then not only that, you're behind him vehicles because the little boy started in go-carts. And then he went to Bandoleros and he went to Legends cars and he went to late models. And he went to super late models. Like there's all these things. By the way, every step up costs more money.

So the girl starts at, you know, 14. Well, she's way behind. So that's one thing. One reason I think, while we don't always see as many females coming up at the top level, because look, they're at the local level. They're doing good in open wheel. They're doing good in sprint car. But I think we see them struggle to get to the top because they start later.

That makes sense. Yeah. Yeah. I think once you get to a certain point, though, I think, like William Byron does start racing, until a few years ago. But there's a few guys that did that. Yeah. It ain't many.

When you're young like that, yeah, but you also might top out earlier, too, and you know you can't race at an earlier age too. Right. But, you know, if you can do it, you know, I don't think a, you know, it does, when you're younger like that, like, there's a huge difference between Malice going in the first grade. She's got kids in her grade that are a year older than her. That's a huge difference in kids.

Right. I mean, a six-year-old to a seven-year-old is huge. Yeah. So. You survey the drivers. They started anywhere between five, six, and seven, with the exception. of a Byron, that Ted Musk grave. Like, there's not many guys.

There's always few. If you can do it and you, normally, though, you don't get the opportunity to do it. No, no. If you don't start young. For sure. If you start young and put your life into it, you have an opportunity. Yeah. But normally you don't get to 16 and say, hey, I want to race, you know?

Normally you've already made up your mind. You're going to play baseball or something by then. And people don't realize the strength that it takes to drive these race cars. You know, they don't, this is a 3,400 pound, 200 horsepower car. Like, you're not going to just go get in that and be good. Like if you go to your local go-car track like we have here in Morseville, GoPro, in eight minutes, you're sweating, your hands hurt, your forearms hurt. Like, you've got to be strong to do this.

People don't realize that because it's not a street. It's not a Mercedes GL 450 right now on the highway at 45 miles an hour. Yeah. Yeah, definitely. And there's a finesse to it too. You've got to be able to understand and know what's fast. And you've got to have that feel. Kristen wants a free hat.

That's why she did this. It's true. I want Elliot to sign a hat. Yeah. he'll sign skin if you'll get a tattoo that's the only way he'll do it you'd look good with Elliot Sadler on your ankle I'll let him know

who's winning this week you pick first right I'm talking about who's winning the hat oh well who's picking Kristen I think Kristen should pick it's got to be between swamp donkey because that's a cool name old swamp donkey how can a driver get better

What if they're boys names Young Swamp Donkey? Young Swamp Donkey. Oh, I don't know. I got to look that guy. There's a lot of... I hope it's not a girl. That's a girl. This is going to get weird.

Oh, man. It's going to get real weird. We're going to have to look. Josh, anybody? Pick a winner. I mean, no, I'm saying we got to look that up. Josh, pick a winner. I guess we have old Swamp Dog.

Chris and Josh does a really good job in your absence. I don't know if you listen to last week's show. I haven't gotten a chance to that I used his falsetta voice. Yeah, he did. He told me he impersonated me. Oh, he did. He does a really good impression of our German IT director. You should do the impression of Kristen again.

Hey guys. That's not what I sound like. Yeah, he did. Hey guys. Oh, swamp donkey. All right, why y'all find that guy? Predictions. Daytona.

We're going to Daytona. Man, I almost beat TJ last week with Monard versus AJ Ammendinger. Like, it was almost fate. So again, we're ahead. Menards ahead of AJ and the TV freezes up and I don't know who's done what now. It takes me 30 minutes to finally get it figured out. Oh, it's a guy, young guy, Alabama fan. I thought he was an Ole Miss fan.

Oh, well. So who's winning to question? Old Swamp Donkey. Swamp Donkey wins. Bam. So I thought I was going to win last week and I didn't. So this week we're at Daytona. I'm going with my horse.

I'm riding Clint Boyer into the sunset and we're going to beat whoever T.J. Picks. Sweet. All right. See, that's a tough pick for T.J. No, that's not as hard. Because here's the thing. Clint's good at Daytona.

So you're not heading home early? You also said Saturday night that you could win Sunday. Well, I know my car was going to catch on fire. That's not my problem. Tell you why after. Are his feet okay? That was Harvick's feet. We didn't run fast enough for anything to get hot.

Clint ran four laps. I told Clint, I said, I wasted three ounces of sunscreen for no reason. I just put on three coats, man. I'm shining. I got on, fly landed on me and couldn't get off. And we don't even run the race. I'm like,

man, I just, I just didn't realize how hot their feet get, because Bowman, you know that list, do you. And his feet were so burnt that Kelsey had to drive to the airport.

I need to see who's, Harvick, Harvick Burnett's really bad. I need to see who's available on my side. They wear the hill. The booties. They wear the booties. And,

but you got to understand, it's a 1,200 degree exhaust under their butt. They run heat shields between the exhaust and the floorboard to try to help them. So, man, when those things aren't working, and, you know, the thing is, weight is a big deal. And they're trying to do all these things for low center gravity. And so they're always trying to get better at everything. So when they try to get better with the heat shield sometimes, I mean, it obviously didn't work.

I'll take the 10. Danica. Oh, yeah, I feel good about this week. That's a good pick. I mean, I'm not going to lie. I'm probably not going to pick her again. Yeah, no, that's... You can't.

It's the rules. You know what I mean. I don't see me using that car down the road. Right, right. Team 4, good buddy. Yeah. Thanks, Captain Obvious. Take a week off and you come back full of it.

Yeah. She's genius all of a sudden. Eat this gluten. All right. Who'd you take? I took Clint Boyer. Oh, your guy. Okay.

My guy. You're a guy. He's my guy. What do you think is going to happen? like we go Taladegh, and I'll just pick Clint. And he can't pick him. That's going to be, I mean. You want to stick with your pick?

Yeah. Okay. You know, it's done. You can't change your pick. Yeah. Last week I was going to. After I pick, you can't change it. Last week I should have got McMurray and I screwed that up.

But anyway. Yeah. Is there anything that you guys would like to take to the masses via a loud rant? T.J's doing one. DJ hadn't had a rant yet. Man, I don't ran a lot. You need to. I don't.

Just pick something during the week. You get excitedable? Excitable? Like angry? Like a lunchable? Yeah, I get angry during the race and stuff like that. Is that what you're talking about? Or like in real life.

Oh, you got to rant. Tell us about this whole Carl Edwards thing. You were ranting me on text messaging after. Man, I didn't rant about that. What? You told me you want to kick his ass. That's a rant. Kick his ass, see bath.

And I said you better bring two friends. I haven't seen a replay of what happened. But, you know, and honestly, it was probably going to have. It doesn't matter who it was when... Have you seen a replay of it? No. Basically, we were... We were in very good position.

We weren't like not where we felt like we should have been, but we were maybe top seven, six or seven, is when that happened? Yep, yep. Lugano misses turn four. Okay. Like big. He's out on the painted area, like not on the curb. He's out on the painted area.

Right. That's big. Right. going down the inside. Well, to make room to come back, because you know, they go out and then have to swear back. I'm not sure if Carl knew they got jammed up and they knew we would have a run and went to hang a hard right to block us. We were already there. It completely caved our left front fender in right in front of the tire and almost wrecked us. Jason DeLeskey. But I mean, at that point, that stuff happens so fast. The driver's making that decision before we can do anything. Yeah. Yeah. You

watch it go down. Yeah, well, you basically watch it. So, um, we hit and wreck, or almost wreck and almost have a tire going out.

We're coming up to Hill the next lap, the left front smoke, and we're running 10th or 11th, and we ended up ultimately 11th. But, you know, I'm not really sure.

He made some comments after the race, too. I don't know if you saw them. He said, you know, he wanted to thank Doug Jr. For giving him plenty of room. And I don't know if he meant,

like, nobody knows whether he was serious or being a smart ass about it because we don't really know. Right. Because he didn't give you any room. No, I mean, you turned into us. Yeah.

So there's really only one way that can be. Yeah. So unless we go up there and hit him, that's what, yeah, I don't know. I really don't know how he interpreter or whatever, but, you know, it's just short track racing. It's like short track racing at the end. Somebody, you almost have to be,

you have to be, you're almost better wrecking somebody at the end because if you don't, you're going to get wrecked. So you just got to be very aggressive at the end. But yeah, I felt like he was trying to block because he's Carl Smart. He's a smart race car driver. He knows when you get jammed up, guys are going to have runs behind you. And he knows he knew how much he had to lift off that corner and what was probably getting ready to happen. We were probably going to go into seven, three wide on the bottom.

And we probably would have taken what we need on half of the corner and cleared them both and went on with it. So he was probably trying to prevent. that and avoid Lugano at the same time. It's just a bad situation. That's not a spot you really want to be three wide anyway or any more than two wide. So, yeah, I mean, if you want to meet me in the parking lot

a little bit, Carl. I'll hide in the bush just in case it goes bad. I got Brett and Josh here. Here we go. I'm bringing Kristen. Actually, I watched the first 20 laps of race before I left, and I felt like the 88 and the 19 looked the best on

the long run. I didn't have stopwatches out all that crap, but it just looked like those were the two fastest cars. Yeah, we were definitely, actually, I feel like we were, we might have had the best car because we never really had the best track position. We had good track position, but we never got out front. I feel like if we would have got out front, we could have inched away because we slowly, it wasn't abrupt, but we slowly caught the lead pack. Even, you know, every run we would catch them.

So, you know, when you get the discreet caution. Yeah, I saw that in your tweet about that. That thing, my problem with that is, is that this would be my rant. That thing laid there. It was a shop towel, a rag. And my problem is, do you know when you're going to hit that rag? Did you see where it was? No.

It was on, from our spotter standpoint of view, it was on the very left side of the track, right where the bridge is. Okay. So if you're over there. Coming up the heel. The last time somebody went across that was when Jerry Nadeu missed the corner when he started from the front row about 12 years ago. Yeah. That's the last time somebody drove over there.

Yeah. If you're, if you are going to hit that shop rag, shop rag, whatever it is, you are already wrecking, basically. Yeah. So O'Donnell tweeted because people were giving him a hard time on Twitter. Steve O'Donnell, the marketing guru for NASCAR, tweeted that there was multiple debris in multiple locations. It wasn't for that rag.

Well, that's, I don't know. I'm just telling you what he said. I hate, I hate the fact. that it takes the eighth place, 10th place car, and puts them in the front. And not that they don't, I mean,

that caution is what won Tony Stewart the race. It's what put him in position. Well, that started right there. And also, that's how Kyle won that race last year. He's on the backside of the track. All the leaders go by pit road. Well, there's something over here. It's not moving.

Kyle hits pit road. He assumes the lead, and you're never going to pass a guy. Like Kyle, even without the fastest car, there's only three spots to pass. And if you can hold him off, in them three spots. I just don't, you know, it's, I feel like there should, I don't know, it is what it is with that.

You know, if it's a piece they need to get off and it can eventually, you know, call somebody some damage or something, then I agree with it. But that caution there, from our point of view when they talked about on the radio, was for that piece right there. Yeah. And he said, it looks like a shop towel, but it's, but I can't tell. Oh, so they were calling out that piece. It lasted about two.

Oh, yeah, absolutely. And then after that they picked up a couple more. Of course. But that's what the initial caution was for. But, you know, but it is what it is with it. And so when you're at home and you're listening to us on the scanner and you hear us say, we're probably going to get a yellow. We're going to get a yellow.

We're basing that off two things. Number one, what we can see. And number two, if we can't see it, how aggressive NASCAR is talking about it. Yeah. Got it. If they're coming on radio on, Towers or something low in one, is it in the groove, we're out of the groove. It's out of the groove.

You're not, you're waiting. You know, you're not getting. If you, if you, if you, if you, if you hear them say, you know, something in turn one. Something in turn one down low. Is it moving? Nah. Put it out. You know, like.

Basically, if you hear, can't tell what it is and it's not moving. Yeah. You're going to get it. But it when, when you hear a guy come on there and say, hey, tower, there's something up by the wall, you know, in turn three. And then they'll be like, where is it at again? They'll be asking that you're not worried about that one. But when they call it. They react.

You know, again, rightfully so. I mean, if the guys, those guys are calling in potential pieces of danger. So it's good to have that. But, you know. And NASCAR, so the guy in the booth and NASCAR booth,

he's looking at 10 different TV shots on his big screen, and he's looking out his window. So TV's also picking that up and putting it on one of their, you know, things. So it, there's a lot of things, but we can tell by the tone of the voice that NASCAR responds in as to the likelihood of the yellow.

Wouldn't you agree with that? Yeah. Yeah. That's interesting. I mean, that piece I saw, too, was right in front of us. We could see it clear as day. And I would have gladly loaned the official by binoculars at that point. He could have called.

You know, I wish they would have waited, you know, get more of a, okay, well, that's just a shop towel. You know, that's not a problem. You know, I don't know. But it is what it is. I mean, if you can't tell what it is, you almost have to have it. But where that piece was, there's nothing around there. There was, I mean, it was out of the way. Road courses are different to me than other places.

If it's way down... Well, there's the racing groove and the non-racing thing. Yeah. Yeah. But a mile and a half, if there's something out there, you need to get it off almost. Because if the car picks it up and flings it over the fence somewhere, the gopher was moving.

Oh, you should have seen Kyle Busch at that rabbit. I know. That's what I thought. Kyle Busch hit a rabbit run. Clint said it's the nastiest thing he's ever seen. We had just made a qualifying run, so we're laying over to the inside, let Kyle have the preferred line.

Where was this? This was in Sonoma this weekend. He goes into turn 7 and he creams a jackrabbit. Clint said it is the nastiest thing he's ever seen in his life. I'll show you a picture of the remnants. It's bad. Yeah, it's really bad. He said it disintegrated that animal.

We went through it not right after, not long, like seconds after it happened, not like five seconds, but within 15 seconds. And we actually had some remnants underneath our car, some stuff hanging. Yeah, rest in peace, bugs bunny. Yeah. Apparently Kyle had eye contact with it right before they hit too. Yeah. What? I guess it stopped. Like it ran out, stopped, and thought about moving.

Yeah, and then they kind of had this moment and then it was gone. Yeah. All right, we got to wrap this thing up. Thanks, One Main for having us. Yeah, guys. Yeah, thanks for one main and the Exalt the studio here. That's it. Thanks for Chris.

Oh, oh. Oh, it looks like a massive tongue. That's disgusting. I saw it already. We can fry that up, girl. Yeah, Paige, let it eat that. Heck yeah. Some house-altry chicken breader, a little salt and pepper.

Hi, you actually. Does you help people right there? Listen, that thing's proper. I guarantee. You make some gravy. I guarantee that rabbit's gluten-free. You could eat that. Shut up.

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