Door Bumper Clear - 221 – Road America: Shock the World

Episode Date: July 5, 2021

The NASCAR Cup Series raced at Road America in Elkhart Lake, WI, for the first time since 1956 this Fourth of July weekend and the spotters are back, full of cheese curds, and ready to react to the road course action. Hear first how Brett Griffin, Freddie Kraft and T.J. Majors celebrated the holiday upon arriving home last night and who may not be completely sober yet.What was the culture like at the Wisconsin race track? The gang describes everything firsthand, from the people to the food, that makes Road America special. Then they talk about NASCAR’s Fourth of July traditions and whether or not the race should still be in Daytona Beach.Sunday’s race started off with group qualifying controversy as not every driver posted a lap time due to Bubba Wallace stopping on course. The crew debates what the best qualifying format should be at road courses and the dangers of spotting at a place with blind spots.The four-mile course often creates lengthy caution periods and it did so again on Sunday. Should every yellow flag last the length of a typical NFL halftime? The spotters weigh in and propose alternative ideas to prevent such long breaks in the action next time around.Matt DiBenedetto and Austin Cindric raced hard for the lead in Stage 2, a notable battle given the fact that Cindric is set to replace DiBenedetto in the No. 21 seat next season. Hear the crew’s take on the battle and whether Cindric may be a candidate for another open ride in 2022.A silly season bombshell dropped last week as Trackhouse Racing announced its purchase of the “not for sale” Chip Ganassi Racing NASCAR program. The table reacts to the major news and discusses Justin Marks’ business savvy, who may be losing their seat and which free agent is the most sought after for these new teams. Plus, thoughts on Dale Jr. saying that it may cost more to race in the Xfinity Series compared to the Cup Series next season.In Reaction Theatre, Brett bonds with a fellow South Carolinian, the guys discuss the salute Natalie Decker received in the Xfinity Series race, an upcoming foot race is established and the spotters recall the time a fan made a notable gesture to them at Talladega.Then, it’s off to Atlanta Motor Speedway. The gang talks expected hot temperatures, slick racing and what special opportunities Offerpad has planned for fans in attendance. Want more DBC? Check out and subscribe to the new DBC YouTube channel! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Bumper Clear. Welcome to Door Bumper Clear presented by OfferPad. I'm T.J. Majors, and we're back from Road America to react to the weekend of Road Course Racing. We'll talk Austin Sandrick and Matt D. Minnetto's battle, long-ass cautions, and trackhouse buying Chip Canassie Racing. Let's get started. Nobody's listening, but I don't care. I'm on an episode of Door Bumper Clear. Hey, everybody, I'm T.J. Majors.

It's part of the 22 Cup car. No truck this week. No truck. No truck last week. Got a truck this week. Brett Griffin Spotter for Jeff Burton last weekend, AJ Amundinger. Shout out to Joseph Hornick,

who sent me a bottle of Whistlepig 12-year-old World Rye. Send everyone. He sent everyone? I was going to say my name's on there, too. You guys got to tell my house to have it. I'm not going back to your house every again. By the time we get there.

I'm not. Your house is off limits. What's up? Freddie Craft. Spotter for Bubba Wallace. Jeff Burton this weekend. I don't think I do a truck race again until September, so

that'd be awesome. And maybe slightly intoxicated. I couldn't tell, considering how long it took for you to do that intro. Hey guys, Casey Boat here, and I'm sober,

so of course we can't forget our amazing producer, Jason. Thank you. Happy birthday, America. What is Casey Boat, Jason Shultz do on July 4th yesterday? Well, I was in Florida with my family and flew back early specifically to hang out with you guys. Dang. Dedication.

We've never seen that out of you before. Congratulations. Jason, how many white claws did you drink? Zero. Zero. I don't. Hayden's here. I know, I'm sorry.

Our buddy Kyle Rush from Offer Pat and his son Hayden are here, and Casey's the first one to curse. Way to go. Brett just brings out of me. so sorry guys I will do better Jason what do you do on July 4th? We're running the tab How many white claws did Freddie drink on 4th of July?

I did not drink any white claws but I might have drank I think you wouldn't even know if you did. An entire bottle. No. How many people were drinking that Casanobley last night? Me and you? Probably.

And we just got a picture of the empty bottle. So that was a lot. The problem is we went to Dog Treat Day Dave's last night. And the second I walk in, it was his son Christopher's birthday, who's obviously just turned 21. Just turned 21. Oh, gosh. And it was, I walk in to Dave says, Freddy, and then 30 college kids start chanting Freddy. And I'm like, oh, God, this is not going to go well. So you all remember that movie where Frank the Tank? That's who Freddie was last night. Was that old school? That's old school, yeah. Yeah. That was me yesterday.

And so the Dave's problem is Dave at all times has 47 bottles of fireball in his pocket and just pulls them out every three to four seconds. And you have to do one. You have to do one. You have to do one. So I enjoyed the Fourth of July last night. Did you streak? We're going streaking. You go to KFC.

They're coming. Everybody's doing it. Anyway. We wrote America. We know that Chase Elliott, Dommer. they did yesterday and Hendrick is once again back on top but do you think this was a win for NASCAR July 4th packed house I sent Chase of text last night and just congratulated him on taking Lewis Hamilton's job at F1 because obviously he's the best road racer in the world tj

i mean a guy can't be beat or road course rain shine whatever you want wins no matter what uh I don't know if I've seen road course domination like this you know you go back and look at you know road course ringers to us back in the day where like rickie rudd mark martin and them guys and they only won like they only won like three four races like it's but not as many and this sure not six out of eight this dude wins like four a year and i don't know if like the entire sport has gotten better at this but you remember like back in the day the ringers boris said and ronfellos can jump in the biggest box they had and run top ten you know like then they run good Boris said didn't qualify for the Xfinity race.

I don't know what he was driving, but he didn't make the race. I don't know if they're getting worse or everybody in our sport just got a whole lot better at this. I think the cars back then, though, I think they were a lot harder to drive as well. Because I was thinking about this, you see guys come in that don't have a lot of road course experience. And I'm, you know, a young guy like William Byron doesn't have a lot of road course experience. Do as fast as can be. any i don't know i just think the cars are easier to drive now than they were back then obviously with the with the amount of downforce they have and they had as much horsepower back

then and way less down force so you know the things are going to be on top of the racetrack more sliding around but um it's still pretty impressive to see guys like william byron and them come in there and be as competitive but again those you could tell the fast cars rose to the I mean, that's what I, the fast car has found the way to the front. So, like, you, I was looking back and look at, look at Ross. Look at, look at Tyler Redick. You can see what we've talked about for months now. There's common denominator with all the names you're mentioning as well.

Let me tell you something that I've noticed. I'm going to tell you what I noticed, lap 10, all the fords were in the back. Every one of them except the 21. I mean, all the big name Ford drivers. Yeah. I'm talking the two, the 12, the 22, the four, like, guys, you don't expect to see run a 20th or run a 20th or on back. But Casey, to your point, Wisconsin, man, beer drinking, cheese loving, gun-totting, God-loving, fearing American badasses up there.

Like, these guys are my people. I'm telling you, I could leave right now, move to Wisconsin and never come back here. It was a fun, it was a cool area. Yeah. Like I packed the house. Would you say fond du lac or? Yeah. Next to the mercury boat plant that was like three miles long. We were in Shaboigen, and I would get in a lot of trouble if I lived in Shaboogun. Shaboyan. Shout out to Dave. What was the guy named Dave? Dave.

Dave's Barre? Dave's Barre. Dave's in. Dave's who's in. A nice little place to go eat and hang out. There wasn't a lot in fondue or whatever you want to. Fondu lock. Fondu lock.

There's big, I did end up going by the Johnsonville. We, I go into the airport I passed. I passed. That's what I saw. You saw that? I am a high. Hot Italian eating Johnsonville Loving some bitch

So let me tell you on something When I went by that plan The wheel was jerking out of my hand I rolled the windows down I had my head out my window like a dog I was like just let me smell a damn Johnsonville brought right now They've got an interesting sign

They have a huge sign out front That technically says brat I mean if you think about it It says brat It does But it's obviously brought That's true Same same

So you like spicy brats. Yeah. That is awkward. Okay. And on that note. Hey, it's a great area. I enjoyed the atmosphere there. You could not, I mean, how many, I think it was like 1,600 campsites were, it's completely sold out.

So I don't know about you guys, but I saw a lot of tweets on Twitter, some pictures, some fans. We had, I don't know what day it was, but some kid walks up and he's got his own airbrushed. Door buff for clear t-shirt. It was pretty nice. So he's like, Freddie, we sign my shirt? So I said, yeah, hell yeah. So I signed his shirt. I said, if you want, T.J's right over here.

He'll sign it. And he said, well, no. He said, T.J sucks. And I'm like, oh. That's how you should have signed it. Then he asked me to sign it. The new universal call for DBC fans is T.J. sucks. Like, I was walking up the steps on Sunday, and they just start screaming, T.J. sucks.

Well, some guy from when I said that, then offered me a beer. Like, yeah. Like, a little early for that, buddy. We're getting ready to race. But I, like, it was. The area I thought was great. But I do, to what you mentioned, Casey, I still miss Fourth of July in Daytona. I miss that weekend there.

To me, that was. It felt weird. That was a tradition to me was Daytona, Fourth of July weekend. There's just something about being on the roof, and you can see fireworks down. on the beach the whole way down and I've just always liked I've just always liked Dayton on 4th of July I just think it fit

I don't know I just think it fit good not that there was anything wrong with that place but the tona 4th July was tradition to me yeah I grew up my whole life going to myrtle Beach 4th of July and then obviously my professional life going to Daytona Beach it didn't feel like July 4th last week because we didn't go to Daytona yeah

but hey man it's or last year as well but I'm gonna tell something like when you go to a new place I mean a cup race of Wisconsin. Obviously, congratulations to Road America. Congratulations to the state of Wisconsin. I hope the NASCAR brass got out and walked around that racetrack on race day and saw the culture, right? Because to me, the best culture we have in sports, Watkins Glen, Rhode America, Talladega and Michigan. And when you look at those four experiences, nothing else duplicates that. So we need more of that. We need more of that synergy, that energy, the way those fans brought

it man. It was a good atmosphere. I thought that was a great fan experience because you've seen that, I don't know who rented these golf cars, but somebody made a gazillion dollars. There was two million golf carts there. But like they were all

decorated with red, white, and blue tinsel and American flags and everything. Like it was awesome just to see the crowd. Bob had a great point to her good friend Bob. He mentioned, you know, July 4th in Daytona, super hot, sitting on bleachers.

Like, I feel like Road America was more of an experience, I think, you know, a great test run for NASCAR because you can camp out, you can barbecue. It was just different. It's a night race, Casey. What? Daytona was a night race. I know, but like, you guys are always going to shut me down.

I know what you're saying. I think that it was just something that was a good test for NASCAR. I think it was different. And I thought from the broadcast standpoint, it looked really cool, just how full that entire track was. It was nuts. The best part about the July weekend in Daytona back in the day was, is we had an off week leading up to it.

That was the, and then I think maybe they figured out that that was a really bad idea. One of my best memories was Dale Jr. rent an 11-bedroom house down there by that lighthouse. What was that, Ponce Inlet? Yeah, that was a fun week. That was a week before we went. Well, we were in Daytona, obviously. We used to go that week.

Like, we used to leave. We'd race wherever we did, and then would leave like that Monday or Tuesday. And then Kelly would get the bill for the damages. Oh, yeah, I don't even want to know, man. We've had glass tabletops made. I actually had a number in my phone of a guy that did that because we needed to call him so much. His name was T.J. too. And he was also the limo driver.

If you wanted McDonald's at 3 in the morning, T.J. would go get you McDonald's. Yeah, did you have that? Yeah. T.J. had a limo guy. I literally went outside. I woke up and I had a headache. Couldn't find any ask for. I walked out and this dude's in the drive. ride with a limo. He took me to a 7-11 gas station. In a limo. In a limo. But the same guy

would turn around and come and get you at night in a 40 passenger bus, a trailway's bus. And I'm like, how many people's going on nights? He literally only left for, like, I don't even know. I don't think he left. I don't know if he did, man. Yeah, it was a. He was a long-haired ponytail guy. I wonder if he's still alive. I don't know. He was, he saved us plenty of times. No matter what you wanted, he went out of it. Yeah. need some of that in my life. But what you don't need is the check for 25,000 miles and damages that we did everywhere. Just give it to somebody else.

Yeah. I don't know what you're talking about. So, yeah. I had a few questions submitted by fans. I think last week you mentioned there was a cheese curd stand right below you. Wait a minute. How many? What is the between a cheese curd and like a cheese stick or whatever?

Monserrella. It's the way they do the cheese. The cheese curd is superior. Cheese curds are usually cheddar. Like cheddar cheese. Okay, so it's cheddar cheese and it's just like balled up. When you eat it is squeaky. Not when you fry it, but when you eat it raw.

It squeaks when you eat. What was your question, Casey? It's a lie. I'm on a diet. Brett's on a diet. He ate five. He ate five cheese. Brett, he did have five cheese because we counted.

Did you eat enough for him? Brett picked a holiday weekend to start a diet, which is really smart on his part. You look great, Brett. Thanks. I thought you looked skinnier, do they? Yeah, dehydrated. I actually didn't eat many cheese curds myself. I don't know why, but...

Well, the first place we went, they had garlic ones, which those weren't good. No. But then at the racetrack, I'm telling you right now, the racetrack has the best cheese curds in America. Clayton Hughes brought down a whatever, a container of cheese curds, and they were pretty good. But I had, like, two. Yeah, we didn't, I didn't eat any track food at all. But I heard the... I smelt it, though.

It smelled amazing. I was told that all the vendors, all the different... places at the track are operated by different local places. Nonprofits. So they all. And they all. I don't know what. Like they give the track 10% and the rest is theirs. It's their fundraising.

Yeah. A lot of tracks do that, which is great. So that's really cool for it. I had a laugh. So like all weekend, us included, everybody was how awesome the atmosphere is, how awesome Rhode America is, the surrounding area. And then I read, I think it was Saturday. I was leaving the track and I read Jeff Green says,

Hey, Road America. $8 cheeseburger sucks. And I'm like, well, it's not, it's one standy you went to. Why do you get a cheeseburger? You're not supposed to get a cheeseburger. Dude, I saw people eating corn on the cob. Oh, that corn.

There was two things I regret not getting. No, I didn't. I thought you were. I was gonna, but I never got a chance to go up there. The line was always super long. Yeah. But it was a good problem. Corn on the cob, like fresh corn on the cob grilled.

And then, what was you? A root beer float. They had the most, Joe. Campbell had six of them. Stevie Rees came down there with one. I don't know what he said. He said something.

Oh, it looked amazing. Freddie, the way you talk about food from America, I hope I hope you talk about Megan that way. Find you a man that talks about you like Freddy talks about that root beer float. Your eyes just lit up. I always talk about Megan that way.

As good as the food was, the qualifying format was. Yeah. And we'll definitely talk about that one. Not as good. We will definitely be talking about that one. Let's go spot on, spot off. So before we get started...

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Chase Briscoe's radio says, I don't get it after not being allowed to finish the cup qualifying lap when others were allowed to, after the 23 stopped. Spot on, spot off. I get it, right? So a 25-minute session that you had 23 minutes to go out there and run your lap. The way the cautions fell was untimely, obviously, for this bunch. But here's what I didn't understand. Go as soon as the track goes green, and you don't have a problem, right?

So I will say this spot off for this qualifying format. I'm anti-40 cars being able to go out there at the same time because the odds of something happening are very high. I'm a huge fan of single car qualifying. I'm a huge fan of European group style qualifying, which is five cars on the racetrack at a time. You can't put 40 cars out there at the same time and expect nothing to happen. And maybe they won't drama. Maybe they want things to happen. But the qualifying format was an epic fail.

We have got, why would we go back and do this again? Like you've got guys out there coming up to speed. You've got guys at speed. And they have fixed the problem of guys being on the cool down lap, right? But still, there's too many dynamics out there that, and I mean, to Chase Briscoe's point, who was out there, Briscoe or Elliott? Chase Briscoe. So he's out there.

Caution comes out. He's screwed. Okay? People say, well, you can go again. No, well, you've got to come back in. You've got to cool your motor down. Unfortunately, you've knocked the goodies off your tires. It's a long track.

You've knocked the goodies off your tires. It's a freaking four-mile racetracks. So you come back in, you do that, you go back out again, the yellow comes out again. But here's the biggest epic fell of the weekend on the qualifying side. The fastest lap time around Road America and qualifying was two minutes, 11 seconds. After the caution flew at the end of the session, there was a minute and 50 seconds left, which means when NASCAR says the track is back green, you have to take the green flag in order to be able to complete your lap. You can't complete a two minute and 11 second lap.

a minute and 50 seconds to be able to even get the green. So huge fail on NASCAR's part to even restart the session. There's no way in hell anybody can make it. Who's the bigger idiot in this situation? NASCAR for throwing the green with a minute and 50 to go, or the four guys that hauled ass off pit road and put a lap on their tires knowing that they can't get back. Here's why the four guys are idiots that tried, Freddie, to your point.

Number one, the way that pit road ends and the way the timing line was started, Maybe they thought there was a way to get there. Okay, maybe they thought that. It was close. They were 10 seconds short, right? But regardless, when we come to the green and qualifying at a four-mile racetrack, what do we do? We go very, very slow to drag our, to keep the goodies on our tires. So what those guys didn't think about is when you're going that fast for the four miles,

even if you took the green, your tires are going to be shot. But no, to your point, Freddie, the bigger idiot is whoever said, let's go back green in a qualifying session that nobody has. It was a complete waste of time effort TV. But if you're Chase Elliott, you have to do that, though. You have to try. I'm not saying you don't try it. He didn't have a lap at all.

He still didn't have a lap. I know, but I'm saying, I'd still rather have that lap back. You're not going to make it. You're not going to make it. Stop. Don't try. Well, I know that. I'm just saying. It ruined Chase's day, too, by the way.

Yeah, I mean, poor guy had no. I think, I think you're allowed, and I'm not sure on this. I think if you're not in the final group, you can put tires on. I don't think so. I think you can. No, we started the race on the tires we qualified on when we didn't make a lap. Cup got to change tires after qualifying. Exfinity did not.

Yeah, I think you do. And I don't think the top 10 do or top whatever it is. I don't think they do. I think it's, I think you can if you're after that. That's news to me. I'm pretty sure because I ask. I'm just telling you, to go green at a racetrack with a minute, 50 seconds left when it takes over two minutes to get back around was stupid. My biggest thing with this qualifying.

Qualifying is completed. You all had an opportunity. going on the next round. So say you, Sonoma, for an example, we can see the cars 90% of the time. At least. And then if we have a second spotter or a third spotter, we have the whole racetrack covered. We had four spotters here, and there was multiple corners that we didn't have anybody. So if we have blind spots like that, especially during qualifying, we don't need to be out there in groups like Brett said of all different plans.

You know, guys leaving, guys on a hot lap, guys not on a hot lap, you know, dragging feet to 12 to go for green. Yeah. You know, we don't, if either single car qualifying or the ARCA, K&N style of we've got five cars, we tell you when to go. We get released off in whatever, five second increments or whatever it is. And you do that based on practice speeds. Yeah, and you go. Like, but you have to go. So that eliminates at least you would think.

And if somebody wrecks, you know, if say or. not wrecks, but like say our problem, we broke a transmission. So now we get off the racetrack. At least you know who's on the track. You know who's coming back to check or flag. You can let them guys fit. We're, you know, obviously you don't want to leave a car sitting there, but we're off the race track.

We're in the grass. You can let that entire group come, finish their lap, and then say, okay, now we're going to put it out. You know, 23 is broke on race track. What I would do is, you know, I would do the group deal, but when you complete your lap, you're going to go down the hill into five and you're going to loop right back up to pit road. You're not going to run the road.

rest of the track that would cut off a couple minutes of every group and then as soon as the last guy turns off down there send the next group it's just you know we don't need knockout qualifying at a road course we need one session go out there whoever's fastest wins poll yeah spot on spot off stage one caution in sunday's cup race lasted 22 minutes freddie so listen i love to give nascar crap at all times but This was the worst possible situation for them. The caution coming out with three to go in the stage, because I think the 78 drove off into a sandpit or something.

But now they don't have a choice. They can't open pit road because pit road is technically closed for the stage break. So they have to run three caution laps around the racetrack. And it just obviously the place is 12 miles long, so it takes forever to do that. I thought they did a good job aside from this one time of opening pit road as much as possible, you know, often as possible. They were pretty quick with it. Everything.

The one time that drove me insane was we had a, it was a stage break. And we're coming up 13, 14. They go, we're not going to open pit road because everybody hasn't caught up yet. Well, guess what? That's their problem. You know, if you didn't catch up. So I saw that and those guys were the guys, the guys that weren't caught up, weren't going to pit. were the guys that weren't going to pit

and I don't know here's what I want to know is and I don't know the answer to this is if you've got guys that are way back creeping around I make my pit stop if I get to the end of Pitt Road and I blend out before them

do I you're not supposed to you'd be behind them but what if they're not maintaining remember that Brad Kesslowski thing at Bristol where they f***ed that up so bad yes same thing but I'm saying like you can't leave pit road and come out of here guys you're supposed to maintain caution car

if they're just creeping around of saving it and not i mean they're they're honestly hurting the whole situation because naskar can't roll safety trucks at certain points and things like that we we make up a lot of rules in this sport in my opinion on the fly like jeff gordon getting in the chase as a 13th car in a 12-man field that was on the fly whether you agree with or not your fault whether you agree with or not that was on a fly why didn't you stop the minute this happened and you saw the scenario was playing out why didn't you say hey the stage is concluded this is it we're not going to have a chance to go back green pits are o'clock

open, boom, boom, boom, we're doing all these things. Because to Casey's point, 22 minutes is more than an NFL halftime. What was the shortest caution period? 15 minutes? 12 minutes. It had to be over 10. You can't have an NFL halftime at every single caution at this big-ass racetrack. They got to fix that before we go back.

Because you know what I do during halftime? I changed channel. That was my point of you cannot consciously delay your pit road opening a lap because of what other people are doing. That's their problem. If we're coming around and you open pit road every time. We did run a lap extra because they weren't caught up. And they weren't trying. Guess what that is?

That's five minutes. I gave them credit because they said on the radio, oh, guys, the field's too spread out. We can't pick this time. One, those guys that are dragging ass aren't coming to pits. They just short pit the stage to stay out here to stage break. So they're not coming to pit road. So for one, we shouldn't even worry about them.

And two, if you're not caught up, that's your problem. They've already ran two laps on their tires. And that was huge, too, by the way. You could tell the difference. but I don't understand why why not just look when that guy is stuck okay guys we got two laps we're going to red flag it here and then you go green and you double up

red flag it down the hill and the five and then go green the next lap soon as that guy's out of the way speed it up some way somehow I don't care if the pace car runs 120 miles an hour we cannot have 20 minute cautions pit road's close so you don't have to worry about somebody pin you get that car off the track as soon as he clears or soon he's about to clear you start rolling him and go green that lap

you got to do something And look, it's the first time there. Yeah, absolutely. I'm learning things. But in general, we cannot do this. I mean, we've talked about it road courses before. We need short-cutting. I mean, when you look at turn five, you can get from turn five directly to turn 13.

Build a fucking bridge and let the cars go over the bridge under cautious. You've got to do something to show these out. So I look at something like the Chili Bowl. I notice they do this type thing there. When there's a wreck in one end, they cut the infield. Yeah. And let the people. Got to do something.

Yeah, they just cut the track. I mean, it depends on the track. You can't do it for everything. But it does keep things more consistent. I saw this week Larry Max on board with us. Do you see that? The video of he's on board now with no stage break cautions. You know, just throw a green checker at lap 14, but keep digging.

So it's good to see Larry Max on board. Well, we went to see Larry Mack last night, but he was in bed. He was sleeping. You remember that? That's what I said we went to Larry's. That's Larry. That's Larry. That's Larry.

But you didn't know you were at Lairies No, I knew I was there I didn't know we were there together You started this off with saying Did I go? Was that at Lary's? You're like, I don't know I said was he at Lary's? I said was he at Lary's?

You're saying this to somebody Who is still not so close? I knew I went to Larry I said I went from your house to Lairies And he said I went to Laries too So that part was a little foggy Then you questioned if you were Lairri's Freddy left my house

to go to Larry Mack's house And he doesn't even remember being in my house So we already got a problem I remember all this I don't know what you guys are talking about Your poor wife. Spot on, spot off to Austin Cindrick and Matt DeBenadez. Who?

I'm you. I'm you. I'm right. Spot on, spot off to Austin Cindrick and Matt DeB Benedetto's hard battle for the lead in stage two before Cindrick suffers a mechanical problem that forces him to the garage. TJ. Spot on. It was exciting. I thought it was cool to see two cars up there, and especially with a young guy.

it's a young guy like Austin up there leading a cup race. And, you know, Matt, and it's kind of, it's ironic because, you know, Matt picks up a couple of tents when he's around that 33 cars. You know, Austin's supposed to be getting in that car. Supposed to be. And, you know, they're battling it out. But I was great to watch. It's exciting.

I mean, I don't know how you, if you're a racing fan, I don't know how you weren't enjoying the battle. Let me ask you this, T.J. You're obviously a Penske. I don't answer this question. There's a zero percent chance. I know what you're going to ask. He's going to answer it. all right

you're Austin Cendrick and you're going to be a cup driver next year and you're a pretty damn good road racer do you agree with that why are you running him

at all these road courses why don't you run him at Oval's where he actually is going to need to get better I mean to me if you're switching to a new car next year I mean a road courses are probably going to be

Austin strong suit so I don't I think it's get his confidence up as well let him get out there and get some you know if he gets out there runs in the top five, top ten with guys

and gets some respect with them guys to start with. That's going to be, to me, that's a, you put him at these ovals right now, and I mean, he's ran a couple. Where do he run? He ran, he was running good at Daytona. He was running good in the 500. I mean, that's, that's an oval, but. It's not really, I know, it's not my half.

Why is he not at Martinsville? Why is he not at Bristol? Because you and I both know, that's the places he's going to get his ass kicked. But if we're going with a new car and it's going to be completely different. He's going to get his ass kicked. Either way.

Did Del Jr. get his ass kicked as a rookie? get Martinsville. Everybody gets their assk of Martin'sville. Exactly. And people go there. Even short track guys go to Martinsville thinking... I'm going to be good here. I can't wait to get there. I was running late models here. I'm a late model champion. When you get to Martinsville... Get your ass kicked. When you get to Martinsville, well, except for Josh Barry.

But that's not a cup car. That ain't a cup car. Yeah, it's different. I think the road course guys or the short track guys can go in a truck and exfitting a car and be okay. But man, the cup series there. It's... It's a learning curve, man. It's probably one of the toughest places we go to, but I'm not against, I think it's a good plan to keep his confidence up.

And if we're going to a new car, I wouldn't want to, I feel like he can adapt the new car to a road course pretty easily as well, like pretty easily, but I don't know if I'd want to teach him any bad traits or habits that you might not carry over to the new car. So, and, you know, I don't know what other maybe sponsorship behind him says, hey, we want to run him. I think Roger dictates what sponsors do over there in that scenario, because you know why? I think Roger dictates everything. Because he literally dictates everything.

So, T.J. can't answer this question, Brett, so I'll ask you. Austin Cendrick, two or 21 next year. I'll put him in the two. Same. I'll put him in a two. But, I mean, there's no. One thing that Penske's good about is keeping stuff like that extremely quiet. Brad Dr.

When they got Kurt Busch from Rouse. Literally, when they got Kurt Busch from Rouse. Not next year. Literally, when they got Kurt Busch from, from Rouse, there was not one single rumor out there that that was happening. And then boom, the bomb dropped. And it's like, Kurt Busch-Tepensky, and you're like, what? Wow.

They keep stuff under wraps. So what bomb's going to drop? I think it dropped this week. I think it's our next topic, Casey. You're right. Spot on, spot off. Trackhouse buys the not-for-sale Chip Canassie Racing NASCAR program. Brett.

To me, to me, the colleague. news was like, if we look at this from a global perspective, it's like, man, that shocked America. To me, this shocked the world. Like, I did not hear about this until the day before. And even when I heard about it, I was like, well, Ganesi ain't for sale. Now, RCR, we had heard they were for sale when colleague was shopping their charter deal, right? So, man, you didn't hear that they were for sale. So I was like, nah, this ain't going to happen. And the day of, it's like, boom, here it comes. Holy cow. I mean, you literally, here's the biggest shock to me. And TJ reached out to Justin today.

We wanted to try to get him on the show or he reached out to him over the weekend. And Justin, Justin may have been our first guest ever on this show. He won an Xfinity Series race in the rain. And we brought him in mid-Ohio. Way back in the day. Justin, I'm a huge fan of Justin Marks,

huge fan of Tynars. But they just completely shifted lanes here. They were in the business of subleasing a Cup Series team from a big team like RCR. They were a marketing arm. were a sales arm, they were sponsorship services. Now they dove into, hey, we want to own top to bottom, a race team.

We're going to have to assemble. They went from renters to homebuyers. That's exactly what they did. They went from renters to homebuyers. So, holy cow, they should have used offer pad. I don't know how this thing plays out, right? Because they bought everything Gannasi has, but what's really worth anything? The charters, we know there were something.

The haulers, we know there were something. There's people on payroll over there that are worth something. They didn't get the building because Rob Kaufman owns a building. Do they keep leasing that building? I'd be surprised if they do, you know, because they're a Nashville-based race team is the hope to move this team to Nashville, which I think is awesome if they can. But they got a pony up and move people. Like, there's a lot to play out in this scenario for us to really know all the things that are going to happen.

But I'm excited because we had this age problem, and we talked about this year's goal on the show. You had this age problem with Roger Penske and Rick Hendrick and Jack Rous and how old these guys are getting. Well, guess what's happened? Brett Kesslowski to Roush, part owner. Jeff Gordon's stepping up at Hendrick, part owner. Now you got Justin Marks bought out Chip Canassi. And Chip Canassi, in my mind, never did a lot in this sport as an owner in terms of

winning a ton of races competing for championships. And he had some all-star drivers. I mean, he had freaking Juan Pablo Montoya, a world-class talent. You know, he's got Kurt Busch right now, who T.J, I think, agrees with me. This guy's a world-class talent. Kurt Busch is one of the best to ever hold a steering wheel. Yeah. But he had Kyle Larson.

Guess what that guy is? World-class talent. He won four races in one year while he's at Ganesi. But he never really stepped up and competed every single week for wins like the super teams do or competed for championships like the super teams do. So Justin Mark's coming in and paid a pretty penny for this team. I mean, numbers are all over the map as far as what he paid. Let me ask you this.

I mean, Sterling there for Sterling, that was there, wasn't it? He was there. Yeah, that's around $2,000. Yeah, that was probably their most competitive. I had traction control with Lee. McCall. Yeah, yeah. But that was probably their most competitive time.

McMurray gets in that equipment. Remember he got hurt and McMurray went out and won the race. McMurray wins his first race ever. Charlotte, fall race. Yes. What, 600? Fall race. Yeah.

McMurray goes from driving the 27 Bush car back then to a cup race winner. Yes. I mean, out of nowhere. Yeah. So we have people on here all the time that are gamblers that are talking about how much money they've won gambling. I'm going to give you over under, Justin Marks paid $35 million for this deal. I'm going to tell you under, but the rumors are over. You know, just like Dale Jr., his, what he said, collie paid for charters.

I don't know where he came up some of them. 10 million each he said. Yeah. Well, look, we know his numbers can be skewed. They can't even go in on our boat with us. Because, again, what are you really buying here? You're buying absolute inventory. Absolute inventory.

I don't know what. Absolute vodka. Absolute last night. That's a new word. Absolute. So in terms of value, you're buying charters, you're buying haulers, you're buying some people. You didn't get anything else. All those race cars are, they're done.

They're going to, so they're going to Exfinity Series, right? Yeah. Spot off of this happening, though, Casey. I think it's great for the sport. I think, I mean, Chip Canassie is a racer. They got races in every freaking series in the world, it seems like. outside of F1. He likes winners. He likes winners. And you know what? I mean, he escorted some of the prettiest young ladies around the racetrack I've ever seen in my life. I'm going to miss the guy.

So who I want everyone to tell me who is the rumor to take that second spot? I know we had Dinosaurus. That's the thing is who got screwed. Who got screwed again assy? Somebody's losing a seat. Yeah, well, that's the biggest thing you got to take away from this is for the sport, you know, sport-wide, we're technically losing a car. We're kind of gaining one. We're losing but gaining. I mean, you're going to gain some other ones, but I'm saying this is, it's a net loss. It's a net loss for overall.

I think that if they're smart, they're going to make a huge push for Kurt Busch. And that's the guy that you would have a circle to go get. I think they shocked the world. They've done it once. I don't think it's Kurt Busch, or Ross Chastain. I don't know. I don't think it's either one of. Who else?

I mean, look, Ross Chastain was, way up on Justin Marks list last year to be this 99 driver. How do I know? Because I talked to somebody about it. They call me, what's Ross's status? What's he doing? I said, he's a colleague. He's going to stay at college.

Guess what he didn't do? He didn't stay a colleague. He went Chip Canassie racing because he was under contract with Chip Canassie racing. And nobody knew, right? So I think right here, I don't think Justin Marks is going for either one of those guys. I think he's got bigger plans. But will they happen? I don't know.

I mean, he made huge things happen right here. Dude, as far as like getting people. I mean, Pitbull. I never saw that coming either. Everything Justin kind of does is like... Big. Yeah, like out of nowhere. And he's always kind of been like this. He's always been an innovator kind of businessman, like Ward of Outlaw team, GoPro here, the motorplex. He's always doing big things. So I think it's kind of, I think he's doing great things. Back to what we were talking about, Casey, to your point, there were four drivers at Chip

Gannasi racing and track house come by. You got Daniel Suarez, who appears to be locked in. I'd say his right. He's safe. Yeah, he's locked. Freddie has said 100 times on here. Zane Smith was going to Chip Ganassie racing. Okay.

Now you got Kurt Busch. Now you got Ross Chastain. So you have four big names or three big names and a fourth guy. Cross off Zane. So you got four guys, but you got two cars. Somebody's fucked. I'll tell you who the, the Zane is the guy. Zane's off the list.

But still, he really wasn't. in order to get screwed on it, you got to kind of have the seat in my, you know, I already got to be there. He was pretty close. I know, but like, but didn't have it, though. So there'll be other opportunities for Zane. Same, Zane, you know. The biggest question is, what's Kurt do?

Kurt's the biggest name here. I've said this all since the last two months that Kurt is the guy. Like if you're, like every sport you look at, there's always the one premier free agent that's coming up. and this year that's Kurt, in my opinion. It was Brad. It was Brad. I still, talent-wise, if you had to make me choose, I'm taking Kurt over Brad. I think Kurt Bush's top five talent in our sport probably.

Driver, driver ability. Overall driver ability. He's solid, but here's my question. Daniel Suarez is not a great Cup Series driver. He was a great Xfinity Series driver in Joe Gibbs Racing Equipment. When you pick that teammate, if Daniel Souris is your long-term project here, you have to pick that teammate that's going to help make Daniel Souris better.

You need a Kevin Harvick, a Brad Caslowski, a Kurt Busch. Nothing against Ross Chastain. He doesn't make Daniel Souris better because Ross is still learning these cars. Now, it's a new car next year. Give me all that crap, whatever you want to give me. You got it, you got, if you're looking at the stability of your program. You need an A. You need an A.

You need an A. Daniel knows, I mean, Daniel's not an A right now. You need an A. that way if you bring in a guy that's equal to him they're going to compete against each other and it's going to be and most times that doesn't work out well we deal with it with with jeburt and every single week tj we tell him lean on a j amadinger text a j amadinger use a j amadinger you can't have this big ass ego in the sport anymore and think you're better and good enough like you got to you look how many people do you think denny hamlin made better at martin'sville he made everybody joe gibbon he said every car why do you think ross chastain is so good at road courses this year it's because he had

Amadinger's a teammate last year and he used him and they ran six of them. So you guys said a few weeks ago that Kurt was probably a contender for the second 2311 car. Does it become a battle for the two teams? I think that if given the opportunity, like I said, he's the marquee guy. 2311 probably wants Kurt Busch. Trackhouse probably wants Kurt Busch. Anybody with an available ride next year probably wants Kurt Busch. So it's going to be a competent.

between all these teams to make the best offer to Kurt. And that's what's going to come down to. There's been times as good as we all say Kurt is. We've seen him screw up two car funerals before. Like we literally have seen him just screw, like bad decision after bad decision. Like it's this. He normally owns it when he does too. He's at the, he will own it.

He's at the end of his career, right? This probably will be the last good deal. Look at Ryan Newman. When Ryan Newman leaves a six this year, is he going to get a really good deal somewhere else? Probably not. Unlikely. Probably not. But he is something that can be.

better an organization still, though. He can. In a different way, maybe. He can. Well, he's going to, he's going to, Ryan. But what organization needs Ryan Newman? I mean, NASCAR could use Ryan Newman. We talked about this.

Oh, 1,000% they could. Think about he has a degree. I mean. I would hire Ryan Newman. Yeah. I would. I think that's the biggest thing. So my hope is, whether it's Kurt Busch or not, the thing that's

going to help Bubba is a guy like Kurt or a guy like Ryan that have been around forever, know how to break down all. I mean, as long as they can, as long as that driver can go to the other guy and say, hey, man, you know, you help me hear a little bit. You can't have the ego and be like, no, I'm better. A lot of our sport. Go to that guy. Use his knowledge.

A lot of our sport is not seen, honestly. You know what I mean? Like the way you break down data, the way you go through, we have pages and pages of data that come from JGR every week. I'm glad you're joining the train. Just somebody that can even help you look at that and understand. understand it and comprehend it is big for that. So if you bring it,

you're not going to want to bring in, uh, like, I love Zane Smith, but Zane Smith going to the 23 doesn't do anything. Terrible idea. For Bubba. You know what I mean? Like you're trying,

if Bubba's are, you know, Bubba's the long term project there. Zane's not going to help Bubba. Like you talked about Ross at, you know, uh, track house.

But if you can bring somebody in that can break down the data and, and look stuff over and go over with Bubba and another person for Bubba to lean on for information. Obviously, my hope is that we would sign Kurt Busch to be the driver of whatever the number is going to be, the second team over there. Just text Danny. You need a charter. You have to.

I told you this last week. I found out something last week that I text Brett. I'm like, man, charters are even more valuable than I thought they were. Because, okay, we, parts, you know, just getting parts for the new cars. if you have a charter, you're guaranteed to get the parts on time. If you don't, you might not be. So you're low on the list for acquaintance.

You're not a franchise player. So, you know, it's just there's little things about these charters that are popping up now, especially with this new car that are making them even more valuable than we thought they were. If you're not a charter owner, you're not even in these meetings where they're talking about these things. It's a huge deficit. Yeah. So you've got to have a charter. I don't know.

Maybe Denny's going to go out and buy. A 12-car team. The way shit is going this week. I mean, you never know what's coming. This is a, I'm telling you, this is a shockwave that this guy went and bought Chip Ganassie racing. Oh, it's huge. Big time. Yeah.

Biggest thing I've seen in this sport on the business side in an extremely long time. Yeah. It's exciting. It is exciting. It's awesome. Youngblood, too. That's what I love. I think this leads perfectly into our next topic.

Dale Jr. says it's going to be more expensive to be in the Xfinity series than it would be to be in cup with the next-gen car in 2020. Because I'm going to start using the materials in the shop to build my pontoon boat. It's going to be costly. It's not on TJ. I don't know. I don't know. I think this should be a Brett question because he knows more about the Xfinity cars than I don't know what it costs to run them.

I've talked about this with some of the sponsors I'm affiliated with because some of the sponsors in the Xfinity series literally say, in case he's probably heard this before. I don't want to be in the Cup Series because of the perception that it's too expensive. They don't literally want their customers and their employees to think they're spending an abundant amount of money to be a Cup Series sponsor. Here's the problem with what Dale Jr. is talking about. And I mentioned it last week on Twitter when this tweet came out. If it costs $10 million to be in the Cup Series and $6 million to be in the Xfinity Series, which one do you want to play in? I'm going to tell you which one you want to play in the Cup Series.

You figure out the modeling to be able to do that. So when you look at what Dell Jr. is saying, we can't have Exfinity Series teams with a $6 million budget and cup teams like Trackhouse who want to go out here and do this for $8 million a team, because now you can't compete on the sell side and the marketing side of what you're about to offer on the racetrack. So he's absolutely right. I'm glad he raised this flag publicly.

Obviously, I think Dale Jr. is smart enough to have raised his flag privately and probably didn't get a response he liked. So what did he do? He said it publicly. Now guess what will happen? Somebody will pay attention to it. What about a charter, though? I mean, how do you go cup racing without spending whatever it is up front?

So when you look at the charter side of it, you've got to obviously, you know, upfront capital to get in business. But that capital seems to be at least 10. Now, it ain't 10. I think if you look at it, let's say a $6 million. TJ, you're buying something at $6 million that's worth $6 million plus, right? If we assume that it's going to go up in value every time. Look at what people bought NBA teams for. 10 years ago. What did it do? It went up over time, right? So if you're, if you're getting in,

you know, point is $6 million, and that's going to go up in equity, go up in value, you win. You're going to get that money back. We're not talking about you and I trying to form a charter. We're talking about people who are wealthy. I don't know what Dell Jr.'s net worth is, but I'm going to guess $150 million. What's $6 million of that guy? It ain't that much money. I don't know. He wouldn't even get on a boat with him. Yes. Yeah, he kind of, he wouldn't even, he wouldn't even split up. pontum boat three ways had to go and do something else

and that was with two poor people Freddie what do you think? You know like he was the first one to come out and say he wasn't paying 10 million for a charter. Dale Jr's net worth according to Google is 300 million. You think $6 million a lot of money in him? It ain't. I mean it's so. No it ain't

it ain't. It ain't no money. Not as you're going to make it back. You know like Yeah. Damn it I want a pontoonbo. It's like investing. Yeah. Tell him you want him to buy you a pontoonbo. Have they public? Have they public told a story where he screwed you and Mike Davis. They told it on his show. I don't know if they...

Supposedly, we're supposed to have a battle podcast to podcast. Like, we're supposed to talk about them on here now. So, Dale June's worth $300 million. We need a raise. No shit. I think more people come up to me and be like, man, I can't believe he did that. So I kind of feel like the right message must be getting out. Can you start a group chat right now and screenshot 300 million and circle it?

When does this boat get here? I'm going on a league today. I might take it. Go ahead because I don't know. Where's it at? I don't even know. I'm not. I want nothing to do with it.

Is it the house yet? It says Lakehouse. I know how to get there by boat. I don't know how to get there by land. Give me the keys, TJ. I'm taking that son-uh, today. I have the keys. I gave you the keys.

TJ wants you to go and set it on fire. Look, if I ask you, if I go to you and say, hey, I'm going to buy this, whatever. You know, you can use it or whatever. We're going to split it up, and then I go, we're going to split it three ways, me, you and Brett. We're talking to five ways. $40,000 a boat. No, not even. 30.

Let's say 30, 10 grand each. And I'm like, okay. And then you don't even tell anybody about it. I'm like, oh, by the way, I got a free one, but you guys can use it whenever you want. It's just not the same at that. It's not the same at that point. Oh, there's definitely animosity.

Yeah, some frustration. So what is... Davis is the same way. Does Dale need to just buy you a boat now? He's got $300 million. He should buy somebody's home. I'll take the boat. You don't, like,

And when you get, like, it's just not the same if you don't have an investment in it. No. When you have money into it or an investment in it, you just, you don't, like, I don't want to go use. It's yours. I don't want to go use a free boat. It also says Dell Jr.'s six foot tall. Oh, so maybe everything's a little overestimate. He ain't six foot.

The internet may lie. He's five, ten and a half at most. Yeah, and that's in shoes probably. So he's worth $200 million. Whatever. But you get my point about, like, yeah, I wouldn't. I would. Not even a phone call.

hey guys, I got this going on. What do you think? No, I just did it. I mean, that's something you probably get two free boats if he really wanted to. No, no chance. He's just Stale Jr. I hope he gets three. Well, that was the thing. I listened to the show last, their show last week, and he was like, was T.J. even involved? And Davis is like, yeah, you called him. No, I was sitting at the pool next to him when he goes, hey, would you be interested in this?

And then he sent Mike. Mike's like, yeah, I mean. It's why you don't do anything or rich people. do your own thing stay with the poor people that should be a shirt anyway speaking of shirts air freddy shirts are coming i'm a promise you jason if you put a fake pontoon bonoom on this table i'm going to punch you in the face that's a great idea you need that giant what's that boat what's that song buy me a boat no the pontoon doesn't sunny lefford have a pontoon boat song uh you could put a dale junior bobblehead with it and dale junior bobblehead in the boat yes driving the boat

Done. All right, next week. A headless bauble head. It's not going to bobble much. This was a funny video. Spot on, spot off, Bo Lomaster's first. Bill Hines' fight in stadium super trucks at Mid-Ohio.

Freddie. What happened, Frey, remember? I have no idea what happened. Leading into it. This looked like me and Freddie fighting. This looked like the most, like, was this the WWE? I mean, was this staged? Here's the best part of the whole thing.

So I was scrolling back to watch the video this morning. And so I don't know if you saw this. So we watched the video, and it's Bolamassus and some guy named Bill Hines I never heard of. And Bill Hines refused to take his helmet off, and this is, Bole of Mass is going nuts. But the best part of the video is, do you see the video of Robbie? Robbie drives up and parks next to the big screen so he can watch it. So he drives up on the front stretch and stops at the big screen so he can watch the fire. The camera pans over.

It's Robbie watching it. This is like a... This is like a Robbie type thing, though, man. I don't even know what... It had to be staged. The way it looked. It looked ridiculous. It got publicity.

I mean, it did the job. Bolamast is not hurting for money. He's probably up there on the $300 million range. But those helmets are like... I thought it was great when I saw the fire extinguisher come into play. And then I was like... Then he gave it back and I was like, no. No, you got it.

You got to do something with it now. I don't think that when that guy slapped him in the head out of don't think it phased him much because he'd start jumping around like a Mexican jumping bean. I don't. Dude, take your helmet off. I mean,

he was telling him. The whole time. He was telling him to take his helmet off. Like, and I'm like, oh, that dude's a big dude. Then that dude turns out. I went as like, oh,

that's a really big dude. Jason, do we have any idea what happened? I tried to look. So I got an update. Apparently, Bo was like skipping the jumps. and like,

skipping the jumps and like passing people doing it and stuff like screwing around that guy I guess got mad or whatever and I don't know if he hit him or wrecked it. Yeah, I did something to him

and that's where it all went wrong so but hey I mean that was like the icky wood shuffle spike or the end with the helmet too it was great all the cheek pads came out of it man

that was a good spike I mean that was a good spike What about the Frisbee steering wheel? That was my favorite part, honestly. What a disaster this whole fight was. I mean, I hope two cup guys and what I'm glad to see. Just reenaxed. You guys should.

Joey always takes his out of the car, so maybe he can be the one to throw a It might be. I don't know. I've never seen that before, but that's interesting. This door bumper clear podcast is brought to you by our friends at racing USA.com. America's online headquarters for NASCAR merchandise for more than 20 years. as Google's top-rated source for NASCAR merchandise, RacingUSA.com,

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can come to 539 St.T. Avenue, Columbia, South Carolina. And I show him what sorry fucking looks like? What's up, Brett? Go Cox. Hey. I hate to say this, but he sounded like South Carolina Redneck when he started talking. I'm not surprised by anything that guy just said. Mark Martin's not a sorry driver.

That guy that said Mark was sorry last week. I promise you he owns. That guy owns a lot of guns. Don't go to his house. Actually, I know, my. Go Cox player. I love you. I'm going to Columbia next week.

You want to go, Freddie? 5-7-19, whatever that way. Come on, Freddie. I think I'm still barred from that state. When can we tell that state? Never. Telling that story. Okay, you can't just say when can you tell that story,

and you have to tell it now. The last show that we ever record on here. Some stories aren't met for air. Freddie doesn't even know which way South Carolina is, but I know which way it is because I'm avoiding that something like the plate. Go ahead. Breaking news. Shultz he is drinking a real beer at a ballgame.

Not a white claw. A real beer. Where was this at, Shultz? Canapolis. Which one of your friends was that? No, it was a DBC fan named Alex that I met at the game. He's like, you're drinking a beer, not a white car. Andrew Curlin?

That does not sound like him. Andrew Collin for him. Maybe they look strong. July 15th, Canapalapolis Cannonballers. Meet me there. I'll be in Columbia. I got some tickets for you if you want to go. Thanks.

Yeah, you so. Actually, I might be home that night. I might be home that night. Come on. I don't know what the hell NASCAR's minimum speed is, but I sure hell know I can outrun Natalie Decker in a damn Toyota Rath 4. That was ridiculous. Get off the racetrack.

I looked up one time. More. During qualifying. She was nine seconds off of the person in front of her. Like, it was 18. I think 18 seconds from. It was. whatever place was there 40-something cars

I don't know where you got you guys didn't watch Exfinity race from where I watched it from I was in turn 6, 7, 7, and 8 met a lot of DBC fans, love you guys but let me tell you something every time she came by they stood up and waved I didn't know she was from there I did too, you didn't

stood up and wave? Yeah, I didn't wave but it was so cool because those people were so excited and when she come by with her car tore all to hell, they gave her standing ovation like she did the greatest thing ever I mean it's a hometown, you got to respect that TJ Bell, the new T.J., the one we like.

2.0. That's 2.0, by the way. He's got two wins, I don't. He was spotting for her. He said that she did a great job on Saturday. She picked up seven seconds in the race. That's awesome. That's ridiculous still. In five laps, could I run a faster time than her? In your rental car?

Maybe that, too. I think your rental car can run nine seconds. run a faster lap than that probably if you give me i i look i'm i'm not a professional race car driver i have been around go pro before and i've been to bonder rot driving school if you give me a ford saline mustang i can go faster than she went in that car i will say that we did a driving school in australia i'll bet you oh i heard this story no no hobes you know hovis i know david hovis oh me hovis ran del junior was fastest i was a tenth off del junior and hobbes was only like three four tense like off of like me like that's and you know hovis like yeah that's pretty impressive that's pretty

good yeah that's what i thought i mean there is hope tj you could out you could have easily out i think i could have easily outrun her i don't know i think mike harman could have outrun her maybe we need to do a road course not on foot yeah not on foot can we do like a road course driving school here to see imagine a mike harman foot race no i would pay i will up i will front the money, $1,000 $1,000. Freddie versus Mike Harmon

in a 100-yard dash. You really think I can't outrun him? I just said it'd be fun to watch. Sober? Did you hear the end? What's that? What's that?

It's not, dun, dun, dun. When you guys are getting to the end of slow motion, you guys running. And you got to be shirtless. Yeah.

And a thong. Thong racing. Now it's getting Are you going to do it for a thousand? I don't know on TV if it's a long race. We have a lot of segment ideas that we still need to make happen at some point this year. So I'm watching the race and the caution comes out, ends up ending the first stage. And honest to God, I got distracted by Twitter and everything and forgot why the caution had even come out.

And then I went ahead and watched an episode of Lost Speedways and still came back in time for the green flag. So I was just wondering how you guys as spotters at Road America, and I love road racing. Don't get me wrong. But how do you guys stay awake during these caution flags? That's ready yon. Talladega, it's easy. It's like 400 degrees, so it's really miserable. So you're not like sitting there.

Oh, this is nice and comfortable. I got to be honest, I was welcoming long cautions yesterday because I meant I can go back and sit in the shade for a second. At Talladega, you used to throw beads around. I looked down one time at Talladega. And this nice young... That could end in a few different ways. This nice young lady... Behind Casey.

Was flashing the racetrack. No, she flashed her racetrack first. And Billy O was the one that said... He said, yo! And next thing I know, the whole spotter stand got flashed. I was spotting for Tommy Baldwin on Channel 2. I said, hey, Tom, look down. He's like, is that what you son of...

do up here all the time. She had the prettiest pair of shoes I've ever seen in my life. I didn't even know she was wearing shoes. Okay, well, our goal of keeping this G-rated. I was looking at data. I was looking at data. Uh-huh. Engine, engine number nine took that car straight to the front of line.

That guy, Chase Elliott, took him to the woodshed today. Happy Fourth of July, America. God bless NASCAR. Brett, wish you guys would have finished second place. That would have been great for you. TJ, your driver sucks. And also, Freddie, your driver's bubble walrus. That's all I can say.

Football walrus. He started off pretty good there. I thought we were going to get like a poem engine, engine number nine. When he did that, I thought he was, because didn't Noah have an engine issue. Yeah, in practice. Yeah. Has he had engine issues like at the last handful of road courses or something, too? I thought that's what he was talking about.

But yeah, I mean, don't deny on who won. No songs this week, Jace? I think people were partying for the 4th of July, so we did not get many. I don't blame what he calls. I mean, that would be the best song. I don't blame them. No. All right, well, to leave an audio message 24-7,

don't forget to go to anchor.fm backslash dorm proper clear and click the message icon. We'll continue playing the best ones each week on the show. Offerpad, question of the week Brett, I think this is a good one for you Oh, what is it? If you knew what you're getting ready to ask, Brett, this is not a good question for Brett. How would your wives describe your cleanliness at home?

Do you keep things clean or messy around the house? Oh, pass. I have an OCD, and so I like all of my shirts in my home are hung up. I don't have any shirts and drawers, and they're color-coded in my closet. And if you walk to the other side of closet, it looks like a bomb went off. So I have a hard. I like to keep things neat, and I can't stand when I go to get something. It's not where it's supposed to be.

Like even if it's something small, like my meat thermometer. If I go to get that thing and I go stick it in my meat and I can't figure out what temperature of my meat's at, I get mad. So the cleaning this of my home. Thank God for cleaning service. I got to agree with bread on this because I am a neat freak too, and I can't stand when I have this nice shoe rack, and I come in there, and there's three pair of shoes all just kicked all over the ground. Why?

There is a shoe rack directly in front of you that you stopped at. Okay. I have a bone to pick on this one because both of them. Both of you guys say that your wives are less OCDs. less clean. No, she's sloppy. Does it... I mean, you both have kids,

so she's obviously busy because I have the same issue where if you're busy chasing around your kids, how can you be OCD clean? Let me tell you where the issue is here. So maybe your wives are just very busy taking care of your kids. First of all, I take care of during the day.

Second of all, when she comes to me and says, I can't believe, you know, Malin doesn't put any yourself away, and I'm sitting there thinking, yeah, wonder where she gets that from. You know what I mean? That would not go well in my house. You can't.

You should see my laundry room. I want to take a picture of this. My house is the same way. Megan's a disaster. I keep trying to keep stuff clean. My saving grace is my sister because she's a neat freak, clean freak. She lives downstairs and she keeps everything great when you go upstairs. I live in two different houses.

But speaking of Offerpad, huge weekend for them in Atlanta. They got two primaries. Primary of Harrison. Primary on Denny. Offer pad booth's going to be out front. You're going to be able to go up to the Offerpad. for pad booth. You're going to be able to give them your information. They'll make you an offer on your home and they're going to give you a Denny Hamlin badass t-shirt that you can't get anywhere

else. And the three of us, Casey, you're going to be in Atlanta? Casey, right now, you want to go to Atlanta? Sunday. Sunday, me Casey and Freddie, me, T.J. and Freddie rather, Casey, you're invited. Are going to go by the offer pad booth. Jason, you in Atlanta? No. Jeff Gluck may come by with us too, depending on the timing. But we'll tweet out something later this week. But I'll offer a pad's going to be big in Atlanta. I want a shirt. Yeah.

Well, you're better playing your trip. I know. I need to try and go out there. Sounds like a fun time. They're really cool shirts, too. People are going to think they're funny and awesome. Awesome different is what they call it. Just for the record, my house is spotless because my wife is crazy.

That's not true. You've got a brother that lives there and he's a shit. Yeah, how is your brother? Any good John's stories lately? Is he still working? So John? Good John's story. He went to a party

With Megan on Saturday And I haven't seen him since So I don't know if he's alive, dead I hope he's at work He's supposed to work today, Casey's What color car is he drive? I'll look where I go by He's got a white Malibu

Okay But yeah I'm assuming he's there Because the car wasn't out front today He's got a furry steering wheel Yeah he's got fuzzy dice And a furry steering wheel So he got spinners on it

I don't know Upcat spinners I don't know. John's just John. I mean, it's never ending. Hopefully you're okay, John. I'll pray for your safety, right? If not, don't call.

He's not the first craft to go missing. I'll tell you that. We're not telling that story. Now I have to know the story. Does I have to do a South Carolina? Yes. We'll get that mega come on and tell the story. No, we're not.

That actually would be a good idea. Ah, it was bad. Next. Keep it moving, Case. No, this is why I slowed it down. You know it's bad because both their faces are red. I can tell if they were sunburn? It's gotten redder since we started talking about this.

Yeah, let's go. Keep moving. Keep going to California. Well, if you're going to Atlanta, I want to see pictures from the offer pad with your Offer Pad shirt, so don't forget to tune them out because I won't be there. I was really hoping to see some pictures of your wedding. I can send those too Don't forget

Go get a cash offer on your home today with our presenting sponsor Offerpad.com Let me divert for one second Because you talked about meat thermometer Guess what showed up at my house this week What? A gigantic pit boss grill

Did you get here? No, I'm waiting to cook on it I've got plenty of meat to put it on a no grill I got a I got a, it's a 1230 G I think it's like a navigator I think it's called?

I got a navigator. 1230G. I'm just trying to find a day where I can put the sun together. Marty Smith said he built his. He built it. He didn't assemble it. Did y'all think that was funny?

Or my sense of humor. Marty Smith, I built my pit boss grill today and I'm like, you didn't build it together. There's a difference between pit assembly and building. You didn't make it. You just follow the direction. Yeah.

I love all the tweets about the pit boss grills too, though. I love people that are used summertime. Every day. It's two or three tweets a day. It's that time. Again, where we discuss our favorite X-Finity X-Fi more than fast moments. Whether you're on or off the track, speed isn't the only thing you need. What were your favorite more than fast moments this week?

Freddie, yours first. So every once in a while, Jason will throw us some moments that we can pick from. And one of the ones this week that I laugh at is Alex Bowman getting to the pits with his tire rub to not mess up his teammates win, which is great. But we don't mention how he got his tire rub by driving through one of his other. teammates. So I don't know which Xfinity, which part of this you want to call Xfinity Fast, more than fast moment, but it's either driving

through Larson or getting off the race track to help Chase. I think the fact that they talked after and Bob says they're still friends. They were smiling. Yes. So I think we're good. Brett. More than fast moment. To me, Casey, there's no other answer here than Chase Elliott. I mean, a road course, another dominant effort. Guy comes from the back. more than fast.

Yeah, I don't know. I did like the, I did think Tyler Reddick did a good job yesterday. That was probably one of the more solid races that I've, that I've seen Tyler drive, especially to road course. We always think of Tyler being the wall rider, getting it done, finding a speed up by the wall. Well, there's no walls to ride here. So I'm going to give Tyler Redick my Xfinity more than fast moment this week.

More than fat. He was on the pole of Cota, too, if you remember. Yeah, that's right. He's been getting it done. We like it fast here on DoorBumper Clear, but what we really like is being more than fast. Thankfully, there's always tons of action for our Xfinity X-Fi more than fast moments. You know what's more than fast? X-Finity X-Fi.

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So download the free Anchor app or go to anchor.com to get started. That's A.N.C.H.O.R.com to F.M. to get started. Time for Brett's favorite segment. What an idiot. Who you got? Well, this guy is... A lot of them this week. I know. I think I'm going to surprise you guys with listening. He's the most underrated driver in the Cup series to me. I think he is going to be the next big thing when he gets an opportunity to getting crazy fast cars are going all the time. You should have said you're not trying to be a

first, I think. But I'm going to tell you something. Usually it's really hard to finish your qualifying lap and then fucking wreck like Tyler Reddick did. You want to give a guy a bunch of credit for being great. I got to call this guy out. He finished his qualifying lap and then he wrecked. What an idiot. That is extremely

difficult to do. But was there strategy there? Did he do it on purpose to keep others from being? What an idiot. I have to give a shout out to Dylan Thomas. who sent me this video this morning because I had a bunch of wooden idiots, but then this guy this morning takes the cake.

He's from Pikes County Speedway. It looked like a streetstock race, maybe. And there must have been some kind of wreck. And this guy gets out of his car, and he goes running the wrong way up the front straightaway and goes to kick the other guy. He kicks his car and dislocates his ankle, breaks his leg. Like he's laying under-

Yeah, I got a video of it. But, yeah, so he, My one idiot is if you're going to be an idiot and run up the front straightaway and try to go after, for one, I don't know if you guys know the physics of this, but if you're a human being running at a moving car, chances are it's not going to go well. Have you not watched Bobby the Bonnie kick the side of a race car? That didn't remember that when he bristle, when he crashed and he got out and kicked his door and he was like, oh. And that doesn't move. Yeah, that's not a very smart. Maya, I got to give it to the guy that wouldn't take his helmet off, man.

That fight could have been a lot more exciting if the guy took his helmet off. I agree, it could have been. I mean, that's what I was hoping would happen. Yeah, Fray's got to sweep that video out. Oh, hey, I'll tweet you know what? I got another issue for this award, and this guy is highly popular too. I was watching the SRX stuff. Did you guys watch that?

Yes. And these guys race for how many weeks straight, seven, six or seven? And they're two-thirds the way through it. They're four-in-old. They're four-eat. Okay. And these guys that work on these cars are having to fix these things quick. Like long hours.

They're probably... Can't imagine. Yeah. Especially after demolition. They don't have spotters as part of the problem. No, but so the yellow flag comes out and I see, you know, I'm watching this Indycar guy just piled by this other guy into the corner and just like for no, like, I mean, this is supposed to be a fun, a fun deal.

Like, I mean, bumping and bang is okay. What really happened to, to, you know, I get it, you're mad at that guy, but you're doing... Tell my, Ilya. Yes, you're doing nothing but causing these guys that are already working long hours. To work more. To work more. And you didn't even get wrecked.

I mean, I like the guy, but, like, you can't race cars, you shouldn't be using them like that. I saw one cool, I don't know, was a tweet or Facebook post or something this week that, I think we even talked about it on here last week. Paul Tracy's been tearing these things up. Every week. Every week. But I saw one thing where they said Paul Tracy went and gave a gift card. gift card to every employee of race or Tony's, whoever you want to call it, for dinner or whatever.

But Paul's, Paul's actually from him racing and trying, you know, like, and I don't mind in there mixing it up and doing it like that, but like when you purposely go down there and not the rear end out of a car or hit a guy under the wall or and rip the front end of your car off by doing it, like, why? Like, just, I get it if you're racing. Paul's. He'll have had enough of Scott. I guess.

I mean, I don't even know what happened. So Scott jacked him up off of four, and then Iliol got in line off of two. And I think he, I don't think he, you know, I don't know if he meant, like, he was going to wreck him either way. Like, whether their caution was out or not. Like, you can see he lined him up into three, like, I'm going to drive in here. And then the yellow came out, so it looked a lot worse than the day, but he still tore both cars up pretty good. But, I mean, it's a short track, man. Aren't you supposed to be?

And not to mention, Scott kind of got used up to get to that point. I mean, but I thought the race was fun to watch. They're a guest crew chief for mechanic. I think that was pretty cool. I had Tim Klausen. I mean, maybe they'll add spotters, Brett. Maybe you'll be a guest spotter. No, they don't need to add them.

Just leave it. I think it's cool that they listen to what the fans want. I think it's cool. They interview the guys when they're racing. Yeah. Like talk to them when they're going around. Yep. Time for DBC picks.

After in America, Brett, you won with Chris Busher. Congrats. Finally. Although Freddie still leaves. with a score of 10 to 6-5. I can take three weeks off and still leave. Brett is in second and T.J., you really need to step it up. Your third.

I mean, everybody I pick. The guy is leading the race and the car breaks. Well, when you hit AJ Amadinger yesterday getting into 14, you've screwed up our crush panel. That's why AJ didn't run worth the shit the rest of the day. So you can thank T.J. for that, Freddie. Let's make picks for Atlanta. T.J., who you got?

make sure you don't drink some. Oh, man. This list is dwindling. Oh, my gosh. Man, I'm going to go with Tyler Reddick. Solid pick. I like Tyler Reddick pick. What a idiot.

I definitely would be good about that one. I will go with Kurt Busch. I'm going out of limb. I got Ricky Stenhouse. I think they've shown some speed. Brian Patty had that. car up front a couple weeks ago. I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna try them out we'll see. Ricky don't wreck don't be wrecking Ricky you've hit too much this year.

Stop wrecking. Tyler I'm sorry. Before we close up the show I want to give a shout out to SMI as they are allowing coolers in Atlanta they must have listened to you guys complain for the last month. They listen to us. They didn't listen to that other idiot. What's his name? I can't remember his name because he blocked. They blocked us all on Twitter. That dude not me. He didn't block me. went and looked. That's because you didn't... You know what? Here's something.

So, I hate to do this again. I don't want to do this again, but I'm going to do it anyway. Sit back and sit in my drink. So, okay, Randy the Plummer is an idiot, for one. But he goes out there and bashes NASCAR, right? Like, tears NASCAR to the ground. And then goes to the racetrack and is in the garage the following week. Who do you think gave Randy to Plummer hot passes?

I don't know. Rick Ware Racing That's how he got inside Yes You did a little research on this How do you If you're any kind of This guy just burned our sport to the ground

Obviously everybody that's in position of power in our sport Probably not a big fan of this guy And I think they found him when he was in the garage To have a little talk with him But why would you give him a hot pass Why would you be the team that gets him in the garage? What an idiot Who did that?

I don't know. Won't you call on a asker? I don't think they're talking to me still. I just, I don't want to call them out, but they do dumb shit a lot. A lot. They wrecked. I saw yesterday they tore a car up just intentionally wrecking a double zero and turned five. Yeah.

How can you be four seconds off and wrecked? How come we didn't get any calls about Quinn? I mean, he literally just went in there. They were about wrecking in front of him or whatever, and he overshot the corner a little bit. And here comes. Here comes. I got a tweet when I asked for questions for you guys.

I got a tweet about him. But we're going to be nice and not say anything. I got to give a shout out to whoever decided that it was time for ir racing to come off a TV. Because I love ir racing and I love what it was initially doing. But when you look at ir racing and what the product kind of went to, it went to eight-year-olds racing. It went to Jesse Owoji when a most popular driver,

which I'm pretty sure Freddie can beat in the most popular driver contest. Like, they screwed this thing up. They overthought it. And so I got to give a shout out to whoever at NBC or NASCAR or I racing or whoever decided, hey, this isn't working anymore. It was originally working, but then they screwed it up. Well, that's the other thing about it is when you look at that product is, and nothing against these guys. But the guys that run in the back were winning the races. They did it to help the sponsors get more time because we were losing.

We needed it. We were losing. So they were doing that. That's why. And then when they started doing these tracks, the drivers, heard less because they didn't why i mean they're not going to go spend hours like james davis did practice in chicago they want to they want to you should have done tracks that were good like you have have good races on there and they could have they could have ran some tracks that were

far more competitive as far as like easy to drive but they didn't do that but the thing is it did what i said it did it went from relevant to irrelevant because of a direction from somebody and i i personally hated to see it go away but at the same time the direction that it was going i got to be See you later. They started going downhill once we stopped doing our live broadcast. Ever since then it's been. For a small fee, we'll come back. I think it was great during the pandemic for sponsors when, I mean, cars, we weren't racing.

And I think it's still cool because you still have kids tweeting about, you know, Christopher Bell and other drivers who they get to race when they're ever on T.J.U.2. Casey Deerpoint, hands down, the most popular thing that I love about our sport right now is minors back in a garage. You know, we had it before the pandemic. It was new, though. I mean, when I was a kid, I got to go in the garage. I was very fortunate. But it went away.

You know, you had to be 18 to get in the garage. Now we came back a couple years ago with minors in the garage. That went away pandemic. Obviously, everything went away. But now kids are back. My friend Max Major, he got to go in garage this week, take picture with drivers. You want to develop new fans, let kids in the freaking garage. That's why I love this sport.

Kids drive NASCAR. I went to the garage. I went on pit road. I was in the infield, you know, camping, having fun. You want kids. You want to develop long-term fans. let kids have that access. Love NASCAR doing that.

I don't know if they're still doing it. I think they are, but if you look up the hashtag kids drive NASCAR, there's a ton of initiatives that teams and sponsors are doing to help give kids more access, the STEM initiatives, like things like that. I look down yesterday and old, I see, you know, what's Kevin's older boy's name? Do you know? He's got two. I don't know which ones we're with them.

I don't know who was with. I think Max was with him. I looked down in Kevin Major, who's Brett's Bowdy's baseball. football coach. I'm like, there's a guy walking in front of me. It looks just like Kevin. And he started waving. I'm like, that is Kevin. Apparently in Wisconsin. He's from Wisconsin. Going back to I race, the only thing that I am

glad for, Brett, is now that they've canceled it, at least they let it go long enough for TJ to get a win. Yeah. Congratulations on that, by the way. Yeah, I forget. Hey, thanks for listening. Atlanta is going to be hot. Atlanta. Hot. I mean, hot.

Come back over the summer. Actually, I looked at the weather. It didn't look like it was going to be. Really? If it's 1,000 degrees, I don't know that I'll be at the offer pad meetup. I looked at the weather, and it actually looked. I was expecting like 92 or something like that. What is that?

Hampton, Georgia or something like that. If it's over 300 degrees, my fat ass will be in the AC. But I think Kyle's going to make me go. It's going to be 90 degrees. Listen to me. It says 90 degrees. Oh, it does now. You're standing on an asphalt racetrack.

That makes it be 110. Add the human. humidity, add all the things. It's going to feel like 130 degrees that racetrack. It's going to be slick, which makes a hell of a lot better race for me. Damn, man. It was like mid-low 80s a couple days ago or whatever. Not anymore.

Hot Atlanta. We'll tweet out what time we're going to be over there by the off-pad booth. It'll be, I would... It won't be early. It will not be early. You're not going to Knoxville, right? No, I'm not going to Knoxville. You're not going to Knoxville? No. You're going to Knoxville? Oh, yeah.

Oh, yeah. Jealous. She finished second? Ex-I-R-No, was that I was Alder? No, I'm just going to turn my radio on. Apparently she runs second when she doesn't have a spotter, so I'm just going to turn my radio on.

You're on your own. You got it. You got it. All right, well, thank you guys so much for listening. If you are going to Atlanta, send us your pictures with your Offer Pad shirts and with these guys at the tweet up. Have a great week.

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