Door Bumper Clear - 224 - Watkins Glen: Balls to the Wall

Episode Date: August 9, 2021

Summer vacation has concluded and Door Bumper Clear returns after race weekend at Watkins Glen International. Brett Griffin joined Freddie Kraft as co-spotters at the road course and they share their experience, including the story of Freddie’s new nickname. T.J. Majors and Joey Logano found themselves on the wrong end of teammate Brad Keselowski’s spin yesterday, hear what happened and how it impacted the No. 22 team’s day. After vacationing in the same place, Casey Boat and Brett ended up on a flight home together. You won’t want to miss their story on what went down.The gang then gets into what happened in New York over the weekend, starting with their overall reaction to the quality of the racing and what type of track The Glen is turning into. While battling up front midway through the race, Kyle Larson spun Christopher Bell entering Turn 1. Find out how the guys reacted and what they thought should have happened.On a quest for a Watkins Glen three-peat, Chase Elliott faced adversity from the start after failing pre-race inspection. Hear what concerning trend is developing in NASCAR regarding cheating and what the spotters think needs to happen to correct it.With three races remaining in the regular season, Denny Hamlin and Larson are now tied for the points lead. Who has the upper hand? The crew debates this, plus whether Jimmie Johnson could have won seven titles with a different organization.Ty Gibbs claimed another Xfinity Series road course victory on Saturday, giving the No. 54 team a fourth consecutive win. Is it the fast car or talented driver making the difference for this group? The guys weigh in with big differences of opinion.Trackhouse Racing has tabbed Ross Chastain as its second driver for 2022. Was that the right play? Should they have targeted an A-level driver? Why is Justin Marks happy Chastain didn’t bring funding? These questions are posed by the panel as silly season continues to take shape.After seeing a photo of Kyle Larson signing autographs post-race on Sunday, it spurred the question of what driver and fan interaction should look like heading into the playoffs. Hear what the spotters think about the risk competitors might be taking as they prepare for a championship run.The Cup Series will compete on the Indianapolis Motor Speedway road course for the first time this weekend. Hear what problem the gang thinks this race highlights and whether they believe NASCAR still belongs at the famed track.In Reaction Theatre, the fans bring the weird after the off-weekends and another song gets knocked out of the park. In What an Idiot, hear about the day of an intern turned driver in the Xfinity Series race. Want more DBC? Check out and subscribe to the new DBC YouTube channel! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Are you doing a TikTok? Yes. Tick-Tock. Freddy, we're going to need you to dance after the show today. There's not a fucking chance in the hell I'm dancing. All right. T.J., you can start the show by introducing yourself. It's been a while.

Do you think I forgot my fucking name? Yeah. This might be a long show. Door bumper clear presented by Offa Pat is back. Did you miss us? Well, here we are again after Waukins. Today we'll cover Kyle Larson spinning Christopher Bell, winning and tying Denny Hamlet for the points lead. Chase Elliott, failing pre-race inspection and falling short of a three-peat, a car

flying through the air and winning the IndyCar race in Nashville, and the Cup Series racing on the Indianapolis Road course instead of the Oval. Let's get started. Nobody's listening, but I don't care. I'm on an episode of Door Bumper Clear. Hey, everybody. I am T.J. Major is part of the 22 cup car, one truck. We've already kicked this show off. Jason's got his hands full. Hey, what's up? Brett Griffin. I'm back. I feel like it's been forever since I've been in the studio.

I spotted for, actually, I was Freddie's bitty all weekend. I spotted for Jeff Burton on Saturday. How was that any different than any other? And I spotted for Bubba Wallace on Sunday. And I brought Freddie a bottle of Colonel Fannin's whiskey for his birthday. It's Freddy's birthday week. Happy fucking birthday Oh no, no, no, no. You're not getting a birthday week, too. I didn't tell him to bring me a bottle. That is what this one does.

You are on the same page. I don't know. Nah, you always say it's my birthday week. If you say it's your birthday. You can't do that and hand me the bottle. Anyways, as Freddie takes a shot, what, uh, who are you? You forgot some of the plastic.

Alex, you want to drink? Where's Dillner's coffee? No kidding. What's up, Freddy Crafts? spotter for Bubba Wallace, Jeb Burton. I do a battering ram in the truck series named Derek Krause. Oh, my gosh. It's just an eventful week.

Thank God for Jeb. Save my weekend. Who would have thought that'd be the case? And anyways, hey guys, Casey Boat here. Of course, have to give a shout out to Jason because he's already sick of us. First race, first week. Yes, thank you very much. This show would be even better of Jason.

let it run how it should sometimes. You can't say that. He always rushes us because he's going to be, he's got to go up there and sort donors post it notes or something. For everybody who tweets us, I think we get like at least one or two tweets a week that says, hey, can we see an unedited version of the show?

If we were to do an unedited version of the show, I think everyone would be fired and it would be eight hours long. Freddie, I'm curious why your boss was at the race yesterday. Was he evaluating the spot? options with Brett there as well. I just want to bring this. Jason, that is a great idea. So everybody since, I don't know, last two years,

every time a DBC fan sees me, they say, T.J. sucks. Well, I have a new saying, Fri-Freddie. That's what I want you guys to say, because here's the text that I get from Freddie fucking Kraft. In the middle of driver intros,

he texts me. It's not that way. And he says, you should have came to the truck. Michael Jordan was there. That was. Who does that? That was after the fact.

Who does that? It wasn't after the fact. It was during the fact. Text me now and say, get to the truck. Michael Jordan is here. Oh, you should have came by the truck. You never even been in the garage.

You should have came by the truck. Michael Jordan was here. He wanted to meet you. He specifically asked to meet me and Freddie didn't do anything about it. Why does he want to meet you? He doesn't want to meet this any of the... That was it. You didn't...

I know. I know. I know. I'm going to forget about that. No, you don't know. Okay. I don't know. How this played out was I was, I was...

I was in the hauler talking to wheels, and it was probably quarter to two-ish. Michael Jordan doesn't just randomly show up. You know he's coming. I had no idea he was coming. So I go to leave the hauler. Neither did I. And as I leave the hauler, I was outside getting water and standing outside. I see this big entourage coming.

I'm like, what the hell's going on here? And then there was one dude that was like three feet tall and everybody else in the group. And I was like, oh, hi, how are you? So then he walked in. And, of course, I had to go back in and just make sure I need to sit in my wheels. Wheels introduced me to Michael Jordan, so I got to shake the goats in here. So you don't get starstruck much, but when it's Michael Jordan, it's... In your boss.

Michael called me after a race and basically told me I did a great job and that you're a prick. So I'm going to pass that along. FF. Yep. Yeah. Well, the first time we've had two weekends in a row off since 1991. what did you guys think of that? Loved it.

Hashtag FF. It was nice. It was weird. It's long. It's good, though, because you could take a... It seemed like it was like a month. We just said we have 14 straight weeks left. I know, but it seemed like by the time you get to the second week, you're like, are we going racing yet?

Are we going, right? I mean... I mean, Freddie, for you, the point was to take a week a few weeks off, not go to every possible series you could go to. Well, I did I took That's like Chad He leaves to go racing Because he hates him

I took a week I took a vacation We went to Nashville For four or five days That was fun Came back I had to go to my sister's wedding So that was fun

That was in New York So Meg got to enjoy those two And then I went Midget racing for Three days with Chad and Chris So There's two people I made your fetishes on the sheet

I don't have a fetish Was John in a wedding dress? So, yeah, John, they did a first look, obviously my sister and first look, and they put John in the dress so that when my brother-in-law Billy turned around, it was John standing there in a dress instead of my sister. And poor guy, I think he was regretting his decision at that point, but he was too late for him. But it was fun. Congratulations to Aaron and Billy. They're miserable for the rest of their lives now. You had a laugh at this, Freddy.

So I flew all the way to Turks and K. Kos and running to Casey and Chad Bowie. we get on the plane and they are literally sitting right behind me. So, typical me. Typical me. You serious? Literally. No, it was great.

It was like the same road. That's so funny. Right behind, no, right behind me the first flight. So I look at my kids who are sitting beside me. No, it wasn't. I said, listen, if this kid behind us starts crying, you can't say anything because I know them. It wasn't two seconds.

And Chloe, are you serious? You sure with Chloe and I case you. So let me fast forward. That was the first leg. She was a great baby after that. The second leg, the second leg, we get, we get off the plane. I have to get off last.

My sister's in a wheelchair. So, you know, it's a process. So I'm telling you, Freddie, it was a complete yard sale in their aisle. They couldn't have made a bigger mess. You know how you go to a restaurant and you see people leave a table and you're like, man, I hope they tip well because, holy cow. It looked like they took, like, rich crackers. Are you serious?

It just stepped on them and opened a wrap or threw them up in the fucking air like confetti. It was like one of them restaurants that serves peanuts as in the beginning. I should have took a picture, yes. Okay. First off, let's get the story straight here. Were you sure? Did you turn around a check and make sure it was Chloe crying? It could have been Casey.

That is so, I mean. It could have been Casey. Might have been Chad stuck with Casey for a week. First off, it was the flight home from Turks and Kiko. So after a week, we got to spend a week to Casey. We sat in the same row. and I like to point out for everybody, Brett was so much nicer on the plane

than he is on the show. That's because we all had the shins. We'd had the sh**s for a week. Chloe did not cry whatsoever because I just watched Moana the whole time and I cleaned up the mess. So... Oh my God.

Are you serious? I am so mad at myself right now for not taking a picture. Are you serious? I totally cleaned up because I used to be a server and I know what that's like. Your idea of cleaning up and my wife's idea of cleaning up are the exact same.

Brett is just trying to be a dick and find something to talk about. I made a deal with you. I made a deal with Casey before this show. If she did a good job hosting today, I would unblock her and here we are. Honestly, honestly, I should suck so that you don't unblocking. You don't want to be bad. I don't want to know. Did you really make a mess?

I did not. I swear. I brought those white things. I cleaned it up. That was before the flag. Brett, you know Brett. He just has to find something. to complain about.

Hey, I know the place, I know the house that you stayed at was really nice. Yeah, it was nice. All right, we need to stop talking because I'm already pissed off of bread and we've only, we've only just started the show.

That just means the show is going to be good. Anyways, okay. Watkins Glenn. Thoughts. Good race, bad race. I saw Jeff's poll so far, like 83% said it was a good race. TJ, watch out for Brad.

They're high now. Yeah. What a, did any conversation happen? How is that a good race? These poles are They're skewed now. And I love, like, I love the glen. And I always, it's usually, it's been good, they've had good race there.

But with the way the stages are and stuff now, most of the time you've got the people that just, the people that are, that short pit the stage, everyone does it now, except for if you're the stage, if you're leading, you're probably not going to give up that point. Like that's what, that's a position we were in. Never ever would you ever. That's position we were in.

So that kind of, it caused. us a little bit, but with the way the stages are, everyone just pits. I forget, I think it was the truck race, literally the whole field short pit the stage, the last stage. Like, the guy that was leading, Austin Hill was leading,

he short pit with two to go. Well, you don't remember, like usually it's like split 50-50, because some guys want points. Every, he won the stage. He short-pit the stage and won the stage. Yeah, that's not like now everyone, it was okay for a while, but now everyone's on the same page. So we're basically right

back to where we were with no stages. Everyone's running in the same exact order. Basically, that you were before you pit it, before the state. You know what I'm? Like it doesn't, I don't know. We've talked about getting rid of... Stages? Yeah, don't get rid of them.

Just throw the green checker and leave it green. Yeah, okay, that's stage one. Yeah, because then the strategies can still play out naturally. Stage one screwed anyway because of the comp caution. Yeah. I think we're, I mean, just from watching as a spectator, I think where people thought it was a good race was just the action. the constant back and forth.

You know the... Once again, the Xfinity series put on a wonderful show. The truck race was actually pretty exciting. The Cup series? I'm sorry. I don't know what these people are voting for. There must be voting for that horsepower package.

They're voting... I'm telling you. The Sunnayette race was a snooze fest. It wasn't great. The first race I ever spotted in my life was at Watkins Glen at the bus stop in 2000. And they were wrecking. There was dirt.

dirt flying. It was a complete disaster. Yeah. And this race, they come through there, freaking wide-ass open. It looks like driving straight through the bus stop, like it's not a hard corner. And I'm literally sitting there going 20 years ago,

this was amazing to sit back here. And now it's like... You know what I miss? They've made that track. I mean, TJ says it all the time. You say slot cars. And it's like I was watching a slot car race. And sometimes,

the only time they reg is when it pops off once in a while, which is like, which is now usually only wheel hopping. That's really the only wrecks we have is when they wheel hopping. cars wrecked back there. Blaney. Yeah. And Lugano. And both them look like they wheel hopped it. Yeah. We spun out back here? Yeah.

We did? No one told you? Nobody told T.J. No idea. Was Brad behind us? Brad was definitely behind everybody. I mean, that guy looked like he went to big owls with us before the race. Like,

I mean, he spun out, coming to the comp, then he blows through the corner and backs into T. Yeah. So did you have a chance? He did. Yeah. Did you have a chance to tell, like, Joey, that, hey, you know, watch out for your. I didn't think he was going to get there.

I saw him start smelling like, ah, he's pretty far back. Got it. Oh, crumb. Get it straight. I don't think you can, even if you tell your driver when they're turning through that corner, like give room, get, they're only going to move up a, like, we were going to, Joey actually moved a little bit before Brad got there and still got us. I mean, there's just no way.

It's a 90-degree corner. The same thing happened to us. I don't know. It was like the first or second lap. we go Balanoff in there and Newman blows the corner. I saw it. And I'm like, check up, check up. He probably had no idea why I was telling him to check up

until Newman went flying by him backwards in the grass and came across racetrack in front of him. Yeah, I don't think we were just a little too far in front. Like it was just lined up perfect. We probably couldn't do it again if we tried. Here's what I've got to say about Walker's Glen. It is a beautiful part of the country. And at 23, I didn't care, right?

I didn't notice it. At 45, I'm like, this place is gorgeous. But people don't care. keep the yards up. There is everywhere. There is long mores. See, but I think it's the opposite. Well, you're like, what I see there is

everyone's got these huge yards. The grass is mowed, but there's so much random stuff in their yards. Random. It's like there's a yard sale, but nobody's selling anything. Exactly. That's, that's, I've often noticed that. It looks like Casey's freaking airplane road. But all the, I will say all the grass is usually mowed.

You know, like, all the grass was mowed, but like, God, you don't know what you're going to see. I mean, you'll be like dirt modified. And then you'll see so much random stuff like I mean I need like bicycle this I saw that dirt modify leaving yesterday yeah you know what I'm talking about yeah the thing that drove me crazy and I kept seeing videos of this y'all clean your damn yard and talking about that clean your mess up like I saw multiple videos of like people standing on the fences and the bus stop and the carousel

and just throwing their beer cans over the fence into the grass well I'm assuming you're not jumping the fence after the race to go get that so like what the hell are you doing put bring a trash bag throw your damn cans away. What are you doing? That's crazy because I think they used to pay for recycling in New York. Used to be five cents. It used to be five cents. There probably still is, I think.

Some kids probably over there grabbing on him. If he was smart, he was. I thought I saw John. No, I could get over the fence. He was a church. He's still in the dress. You know what they've done to the glen that I don't really like? If you look at the curbs, like when you get to the bus stop,

back like when, like, he used to watch Robbie Gordon, literally the right sides would be in the air, like Sonoma kind of turn four or five, whatever it was down there, the right hander, you know how they hit that curb there? Like, that's why Robbie Gordon looked through the bus stop every single time. Now, they've got flat curbs. Them guys are,

they're all four over the first right-handed, they're all four as far as they can go to the left and right. And there's no penalty for it at all. Like, yeah, like the re, I think that's part of the reason. We need those things that the roe has. What do they call them? Turtle shells or something. But even leaving the bus stop.

Ninja turtles. leaving the bus stop. They got that camera that's like head on out of the bus stop. And there's a curb. It's like as wide as this table flat. Like where is the penalty for missing? There's no penalty for missing any of the corners.

We used to have leaving the carousel. We used to have that grass over there where, hey, if you get over there, it's going to be big. Now they pave and everybody runs over there and it's easy as can be. So I feel like they've really made the track a lot easier, which makes the drivers not have to be as good. You don't have to be as precise through the bus stop, things like that. The biggest thing that they're fighting is wheel hot.

I mean, what do most spinouts come from the road course now? When they wheel hop. And that's like... But look, I mean, look, Watkins Glen, man, my whole life. I say turn one at Watkins Glen is the hardest corner in the freaking on the on the circuit. How many people wrecked yesterday in turn one? Three? Yeah, maybe.

Nobody wrecked, really, just a couple spins. I mean, Newman. He died into one. It was Newman, Brad. Usually 18 laps into a run, you see somebody bust their butt. You don't see that anymore. Yeah, you don't. I don't know.

You just don't. We can't keep making these cars easier to drive. We got to make them harder to drive. I'm sorry. The harder you push the tires down in another racetrack, the more grip they're going to have. I saw guys come into that bus stop. They'd hit that jump y'all talking about, the right-hander. Boom, they'd hit it.

They'd turn left. They bust loose sideways. When you say hit it, though, that thing's only coming like. But they'd gather it right up. Yeah, they're not. Gather it. Got it. You could throw, like you could put, I mean, you could throw a big bucket under Robbie Gordon's car when he'd go over that thing.

You can't, when they hit it now, it's like, bloop right back down. Yeah. Yeah. And I, I don't know. I've missed them days where they come in there and you see him skating a little bit, barely making it, you know, hitting that curb, upset in the car. Now there's none of that, really. Well, before we head into spot-on, spot off, let's hear a little bit more about our amazing presenting sponsor, Offer Pat. Danny and Harrison, welcome to the Offer Pat family.

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And I have to give a shout out to Waukepeedia because he had a great point. The Chili Bowl rivalry continues on Sunday. spot on spot off Casey, what do you think? Spot on, spot off, Freddie. Yeah, I mean, I'm all about it. These guys race against each other across many different platforms.

So, you know, they've done, and they've done it forever. They ran to the same team, Keith Coons, forever. They ran, they both ran for Chad last year. So, you know, it's a rivalry for sure. You know, I forget, where was it? I think it was Bristol. Bristle dirt. That was a Bristol dirt where Christopher

spun out and Kyle ran into him. Yeah, I think so. And Kyle was pissed off at Christopher there. But, you know, this deal happened in one. It's just, I almost, I don't want to blame Christopher, but it's, he spent way too much time being way too nice to his teammate leading and kind of put himself in this position, in my opinion, because I felt like he was way better than the 19,

and obviously wasn't going to really force the issue because of a teammate. But now you've allowed Larson to get there. And then when Larson gets there, he gets a little running away. and you know you don't give them you know you're racing so you're not going to give him a ton of room and larsen kind of gets in there we saw it all weekend i think we did it to the damn 51 in the race the guy gets in the bottom he gets in there hot trying to get a position on the guy locks the tire up just a little bit slides up a quarter of a lane and and now you're turning the guy around i could hear case he's heartbreaking all the way in new york from this happening

to christopher bell you know i mean i know they go way back and the weird thing for me though i think there, I think it goes back to, remember when Christopher had a decent run on Martin and he didn't do anything with it? And then Kyle Larson got a really nice run on Christopher. And Christopher made a huge block going down that front stretch. You got me by the inside wall. Remember that? Oh yeah. So when I look at this thing happening and playing out. Just saying if we would have done that, it'd have been like, TJ's, we are terrible. Yeah, you're a blocking the idiot. Yeah, Christopher. But Christopher made a huge block there. huge block. And he ran him all the way down, and I still think it comes back to, okay, if you're going to race me like that, I'm going to race you hard. I don't think Kyle meant to wreck him, but he certainly

meant to pass him. He did apologize. And he got in too deep. Dude, that five got down the front trash and he drives so deep. Apologizing doesn't do anything for me. No. If you wrecked, like Carl's, oh, so I didn't mean to wreck you, and I'm a smile. F*** off. Like, you wrecked me, I'm going to kick your out. I think they're in the same weight class. They should fight it out. You know what? It's funny about that. You say, Carl's because I washed something was, something was I don't know how it came up, but like, he did an interview after winning Gateway when he wrecked Brad really bad on the front stretch there. And were you at that race? No.

But I know what you talking about. Do you could hear the hits. Like, guys weren't lifting. They were all coming in there. And you could like, you know how you can hear a car hit the wall? You kind of feel it. Yeah. There was like four or five of them in a row right in front of you.

And Carl's like, yeah, well, I don't, you know, I'm not going to be race like that and blah, blah, blah. Then I go back. I'm looking like he sent, he sent, he sent, um, he sent, um, Kyle at Richmond, like he's the, like you can't say you don't do that. You are exactly that. Yeah. Like exactly that. Carl was the worst.

He was pretty bad, but. Rec you smile, say, I'm sorry. Hey, Kyle Larson wins race. Christopher Bell doesn't. Yeah. And I will say that, that fight, like Kyle could get down the front stretch so good. He could drive so deep into one. But if he got offline, it's almost like he didn't have a very good judge of where to, like,

he's going so fast. So if he moved his line down a little bit, he's going a little faster than what he, then he can make the corner down there. But Larson has won two road courses this year. Sonoma and Watkins won the other one. He should have won Daytona. Yeah. He choked.

Guess who won that? Bell won it, right? But look at Hendrick Motorsports and Chase Elliott, how dominant they are. And Chase Elliott was a second faster than the field at the end of the race. How does that happen? So that Watkins Glenn has turned into like since the repave and they fixed like all them curbs that are widened out. It's turned into like a Super Speedway Road course now.

Like, kind of. Like, it's not the technical, it's not the technical, you know, hey, stay off this curb, stay off that curb. It is, I mean, it's hard to describe. It's all to the wall. Yeah, and there's plenty of room for, like. A lot of room. A lot of room.

There's not, hey, here's this little tight area. You know, it's hammered down, man. It's a high speed racetrack. Yeah. So if you're going fast and you can turn, you're going to be pretty successful there. Chase Elliott falls one spot short of a Walkins Glen three Pete after failing pre-race inspection for an issue with the rear window air deflector. Spot on spot off. So surprised and made up all that ground.

You know, I don't know how to be. Tell us how you really feel. I mean, we all know when a car like that, 19, 9, you know when those guys don't pass, they're going. to be a factor for the win. It's weird that it's like that. But I think we all know when you see, when you read that on social media or something before the race or you're in the garage ring, hey, the night,

yep, he's going to be super fast today. Yeah, especially when it's something like that. You know what I mean? So the rear air deflector is that little shark fin deal that runs down the seapost behind the driver's side of the car, and they got busted because it was too thin. And I talked to people in the garage. they're like, yeah, we could see that as the thing was rolling through the garage.

So it's pretty obvious. And we've talked about it on here a hundred times. Like you're going to bring things to the racetrack that are obvious for them to find, hoping that they find that and go, okay, yeah, we got them. That's it. Now we're not, you know. That thing's changed within like five screws maybe, five little bolts. Yeah.

And then they put another, it's a different one. So, you know, these teams are, they're not stupid. They know what they're doing. They're going to play the game just like they always have. And it's no coincidence that the two guys that got busted for this were the nine the 20 and I would say they were probably two of the three fastest cars yesterday. Yeah, the nine had the fastest car and he didn't win the race because he screwed up. He admitted it after the race.

One caution and he probably runs a race. Oh, yeah. But that's the thing too. We had no, we had no real, no real cautions, really, for no wrecks. Like we used to have, every once in a while you'd have some good wrecks at the glen, you know? Like, you used to be able to wreck and not get away with it. Now, no matter what corner you spin. off of unless you do something up through the S's, you've got a cornfield and a half to get it

straight and drive back keep going again. Not that it shouldn't be safe, but there's no, there's just no, it's like Talidae. It's wide, you know, it's huge. I'll tell you one thing that might be contributing to the fact that it's a 85% good race was the fact that it was only two and a half hours. So that was nice. Yeah, that was, yeah. A couple of yellows on that thing's 30 minutes longer. Oh yeah, but it was nice to get home. I mean, we got on. I landed. The sun was still up, Or you're on my plane. I'll tell you what, though, and this isn't in anything. NASCAR did a really good job all weekend of streamlining the cautions.

Like, we would, that opened pit road, and it was one to go of that lap in the bus stop most of the time, which took off. They must listen to our show. Well, it must. I mean, how many menaces that take off? Oh, they do. For a caution. You're talking what? Freddy got in trouble because they listened to our show.

I didn't get in trouble. Oh, do you share. I didn't get any trouble. Yeah, they didn't like something he said. They don't like anything. I say. So, you're good. I didn't get any trouble.

I think NASCAR's great. But yeah. Hey, Kip, call me this week. I got something I'll tell you. I'm going to say it on the show. Just say it here. What are you're waiting for? These spotters are like freaking little bitches.

They get to the roof and they tape. You can say that now that he's not spotting. J.J. just spotted it, spin his Celsius out. These freaking guys get to the roof and tape all these spots off. I show up and there is, I mean, there is, there is no room for me to stand on the spotter stand. And I'm like, fuck you guys. Get out of the way.

And I went up there and stood on the front row. Thanks to Hayden Roots. He helped me. What does Kip have to do with that? Kip needs to freaking make the rule go back to what it used to be. Pick your spot based on where you qualify. These guys like Tab Boyd getting a Talladega on Tuesday and taping off 20 spots and T-J having a friend that works at Talladega taping off the other 20.

That's got to stop. It's only two, three. It's got to stop. Maybe four. It's out of hand. Sounds like high school drama. It is. It's like a bunch of girls.

So I wanted to do a deal where new tracks, because we all kind of know where you go with these places, like, is-ish. Yeah. You just go back to your same spot that you've been going to. Bus stop. Second spot or stuff's always a fiasco. Like, anytime you go to somewhere back, you don't know who's going to be there or what.

Speaking of the second spotter, this one guy asked me after the race if I had a few minutes, he wanted to talk to me about something. Was he in your car? Because if that's the only chance he had. Bro, when the race is over, I'm leaving. I don't care. Jesus is standing there and won't talk to me.

I'm leaving right then. We're coming around on the cool down lap and the Xfinity race and Jeb's like, hey, Brett, I hear him. I'm going down the stairs as we speak. And I hear Jeff's going, hey Brett, thanks a lot, buddy. Appreciate your help back here. And I'm like, man, he's halfway to Ithaca already.

Clint that time when Ryan Newman wrecked Clint after a race at Charlotte, I don't have any idea what's happened. Clint calls me after race. He's like, what was that about? I said, I don't know what you're talking about. He said, I remember that. Freaking Newman wrecked me after race. I'm like, oh, I didn't see it.

I was calling. When I say checker flag, I'm leaving right then. I said, I don't know, do you hear me on Channel 2? You said, coming back to the checker, I said, later, Brett. No, because Channel 2 was already off. Channel 2 off, NASCAR off, listening to myself off. I only got one radio left. It is, it is kind of, you weren't, I mean, you haven't like.

You're going to have a fist fight on the spotter stand over these spots before it's over. I'm telling you. It's bad because you're right. And when we do, it's going to be NASCAR's fault because this is bullshit. It's kind of, we go to these. I was worried about the new tracks because you go to these new tracks. None of us ever been there. We don't really, like, I've been staying in the same spots for 17 years.

Like, just like you. I mean, you go to where you've been going. And we go to these new tracks. Well, if you're not there on Tuesday, it's ridiculous. You don't, and here we are. I'm six, seventh, whatever, and the points, whatever. And I'm behind, like, I get to pick behind. You don't need Rick Ware racing having the best spots on the spotter stand

because your truck driver got there on Monday night. I'm sorry. NASCAR needs to fix this problem. You're going to be pissed off when you come back full time next year, and your spot's gone. My phone has rang three times this year want me to come back full time. I basically just heard that Brett's going to be in a fist fight with somebody.

Yeah, basically it's Brett. He's laying the groundwork for when he beat somebody up next year. Maybe that's what it is. It's already laid out now. Yep, that pretty much sums it up. Let us know when you know what driver. My blood pressure. My blood pressure.

Kip, fix it's already. this problem. My blood pressure is going up. Back to your question. You are part time. You're really good. Casey, I'll go spot off because we know what's going to happen when a guy gets deep. When a guy gets put to the back, we know what's, there's, there's more to it. Brett, spot on, spot off. He forgot what he was talking about. Man, T.J. hit the nail on the head. When we see, I mean, look at Phoenix. Chase Elliott sent to the rear. Half second faster than the field. Game over. I mean, literally.

NASCAR, man, look at what's happening here. There's a trend. Guys that are sent to the rear are cheating or attempting to cheat. And they're going through tech two and three times. Like, tighten it up. Don't, don't. If they fell once, make the second time be they got to do a pass-through. Make the crew chief sit in a room during the race.

Like, make it tougher on these guys. We've said that on here before. We're being too easy on them. And you, you know, you see the headline is, oh, Adam Stevens and Alan Gus has been thrown out. They're not thrown out. They're sitting in a bus texting the guy on the pit box. Oh, they're on the digital. They're on the digital radio.

They're literally on the digital radio. So listen, if you want to penalize these guys, make the penalty stiffer so there's a reason why they don't do it, you know? Or let the crew chief sit in the NASCAR hauler for the entire race. Maybe they'll think about it twice before they do it again. I don't know. There's a lot of really smart people in the garage A. And they know, I mean, they know how to work. Okay.

Yep. Kyle Larson ties Denny Hamlin for the points lead with three races remaining for the regular season championship and 15 playoff points. He's just like, spot on teasing Denny right now. Yeah. Like, hey, here I am. I'm almost there. This is, it's over. Just trying to make it exciting.

This is terrible. What do you mean? Poor Denny. FF. Although I saw, he did say that it keeps him on his toes. So, maybe he likes it. So spot off. He didn't thank Kyle for winning Watkins Glen and it wasn't some oddball.

Really, though? I mean, if someone odd... Yeah, there wasn't going to be no oddball winning there, though. Just saying, what if? At... Let me see, I had this notes somewhere here. 146 point deficit 13 races ago. Eight races ago, it was a 76 point deficit.

Is that your math or something else? And now this is tied. That's my math. Somebody should back check it. It's tied now. So you made up 146 points in 3. 13 races. So you're saying Quinn Hough can still make the chance. Clint Hough has got a shot next week. He's probably only 700 points out.

But, I mean, this is ridiculous with Larson. I mean, he's already got, like, if the playoffs ended today, if the playoffs started today without the next, whatever we got, three or four races left, he's already got almost more points than anybody's ever had in the play going in the playoffs. He's got 52 points if he wins a regular season championship with the bonus points he's got now. Harvick had the most last year with 57. But I mean, he's going to have, if nothing really changes and the guy's finished where they're at, like Danny Hamill, look, how many playoff points think Danny Hamill has? 15.

Five. Ooh. So, I mean. So he's won five stages. We might have more playoff points than him. He's, oh, yeah, you do. Almost everybody does. He's going to have probably like a 25 to 30 point cushion over second when he gets to the playoffs.

And then over third, I mean, over fourth where he's really only worried about because he only needs to be in the top four to make. Phoenix he's going to have a race where he can just skip the race and not go there and have and still be in the top foreign points so I mean it's pretty impressive what he's done we saw this kind of what Harvick last year and some guys True X a few years ago you know they basically have a buy to the playoffs as long as you know you don't you don't have what happened to Kevin last year where you just have one horrible round and and you're out but I mean this this is pretty ridiculous Kyle Larson's pretty good Turns out. Casey, there's some stat you've seen earlier.

A stat from Nick Bromberg. Larson has won six races in 223 races at Chip Canacity Racing, yet has won five races in 23 races. Kyle Larson had one good year there, won four races in one year, if my memory serves me correct. Otherwise, he wasn't really that big of a contender to win races. We knew. He wasn't consistent.

We knew how good he was. We knew how good he was. knew he wasn't in great stuff and now he's in great stuff. Those races that he won there, though, like, not that he's not getting up on the wheel now, but, like, those races that he won that year, he was, like, it was impressive to watch. Like, he would get up by the fans. Like, I think Michigan might have been won. But, like, when he won in that car, like, that kid was wheeling the hell out of it and that thing.

Yeah, people always say, man, look how many races he won when he got good stuff. How many championships does Jimmy Johnson win if he's at Chip Canassie Racing? racing. Indy car or cup? Jimmy Johnson? I don't know. I think he still won championships because he's Jimmy Johnson. I don't know. It's tough to say. Equipment. Cars You can't go, and you've said on here multiple times, I've said on here multiple times. Jimmy Johnson's the best race car driver of that error.

You're not going to be the best race car driver. Are we going back on that and saying that he was just in the best car now, or was he the best race car driver? I'm just asking you a question. I don't know. You didn't answer it. Jimmy Johnson going to win seven championships at Chip Canassie racing? I don't. I don't know. No.

No because. Hell no. Yeah, I don't think you win seven. The answer is he doesn't win two. He might win one. He ain't going to win two. He might win. Yeah, he might.

I think he could win. Like Freddie said, though. It's hard to. Ron Montoya. Kyle Larson. Tell me race car drivers better than them two guys. Jimmy Johnson. Yeah.

Okay. How much better than them two guys is he? I don't know. No chance. No chance. wins more in one championship, but Chip Canacity Race. I don't know. I think it's possible that he could.

I think he was, I think Jimmy, he's won seven championships. How can you not say it wouldn't? I know he's in good cars, but, um. When's the last time Richard Childress Racing won a championship? Harbord. Do you know, Bill and Hart? I mean, how many, I mean, yeah, you're exactly right. Kevin Harvick left there.

What do he do? Championship. Yeah. He's pretty good, too. Just saying. Interesting. Spot on, spot off. Ty Gibbs now has more Xfinity Series road course wins this season than A.J.

Almondinger and Austin Centric combined after his Watkins Glen victory. Spot on, spot off, Brett? I want to start a campaign. I want Mike Harmon to drive the 54 car before the end of the season. And I want to see how good he can do. And if you don't like Mike Harmon in it, then put B.J. McLeod in it. What are you trying to say? I think I could win in the 54 car right now.

They've won eight out of last 10 races. So you think it's the car, not the driver? I think Ty Gibbs is an amazing race car driver. I think Ty Gibbs in... He's done well. I mean, I've been very impressed with Ty. I think some of the moves he's made does not make him look like a rookie. I think he is more advanced than what you are saying.

That is just the car. I think Ty Gibbs is a great race car driver. I think Ty Gibbs in the... What's a playoff car? 18 wins. I mean, a race is a car. 18 won this year. That is one won.

How many is Ty Gibbs? Hemrick has never won a race. If Ty Gibbs is in 18, how many wins do you have? Yeah. I don't think he has any wins in 18 this year. I think 54's a rocket. To me, this is what happened, this is like an Austin Dillon situation.

There's a lot going into that car right now. Like, that's similar. Remember when Chase Elliott was at Junior Motorsports? And when William Byron was at Junior Motorsports? What happened, T.J.? A lot went into that car, didn't it? What are you? Apparently.

What? Okay. I mean, you could say it's the car, but I'm pretty sure Ty Dillon got in there and was non-factor multiple times this year. So is Ty Dillon Mike Harmon or is Ty Gibbs better than expected? Ty Gibbs is better than Ty Dillon. Oh, 100%. What tracks did he run, though? He ran Daytona, which isn't really. He run Vegas.

He run Daytona. He run. three or four times. Also, I think being out of the seat hurts a little bit too. Being out of the seat, Ty Gibbs just started. But if he's been running every weekend for years,

though. If Ty Dillon gets in that car at this weekend, Indy or Michigan, this car has peaked. It's the fastest car out there. So do you think if Ty Dillon got in there this week, he'd win? Michigan, he would.

Michigan, yeah. I'm not saying it would Indy. He wouldn't win Michigan. He wouldn't be in the top five of Michigan. I think he could run tough. I think he could run. around fifth. Nope.

But I don't know if you win. I think TJ could run fifth. Nope. I could probably run fifth. Nope. You can run. Listen, listen, we've talked, Ty Gibbs. Ty Gibbs going into this year.

You didn't really know what to expect. And, I mean, he'd come out of the gate firing at Daytona goes out and wins a race. The most impressive thing to me about this week was, you know, he gets two bad restarts in the last 10 laps. Send your kids in front of him. I mean. It passes him back. He passes him back.

he goes back, same thing with AJ with three or four to go, whatever it was. This son, was hauling ass through the bus stop. You should have seen him. I saw, when live, they had the bumper cam on Singer's car. And when Cingrick was leading and Ty was second, and it was probably like a three-car gap getting in there. And by the time they left the bus stop,

he was shoving him into the carers. AJ, I'm a dinger's a pretty good road course station. Yeah, I mean, Cendrick's pretty bad, too. And A. And A.J. came into the bus stop about a car linked off of him. And when they left the bus stop, he was four car links off of him. He drove it in deeper. He got the car to stick.

He got back to the gas. And he said, see ya. Well, that's driver. That's not car. No, not at all. It's just driver. AJ doesn't know what the hell he's doing in the bus stop. I mean, was he ever won at the Glenn?

Oh, just a cup race or two. I mean, fast cars go fast. So you think, so next year. And it's easier to groom a guy. It's easy to make a guy look good in a fast car, though, too. I think Ty is, I think he's going to be a cup driver one day. For sure. No, no chance.

What makes you say that? What team he thinks he'll race for? Who's he going to drive for? I think Ty's work ethic and what he's doing, the path that he's on. You know, he's learned he makes some aggressive young moves, but they're all going to do that. His name's on to build them. Is he, I mean, you assume he's full-time next year. Is he the instant championship favorite for next year?

I think he's, I think he's the instant, dude, I'm going to tell you something. Joe Gibbs is obviously smart. I wouldn't touch that team. Chris Gale is my guy through and through the 54 car. That's my guy. That's my spotter. Whoever spotter is, I've never met the guy. Like, I'm not touching anything on that team.

The only thing that I would change if I was Ty Gibbs this year is, is to stop getting in these stupid pissing matches with Corey Heim and these Arka races. It's fun to watch. It's fun to watch. But, I mean, you end up looking dumb. Like, one spins one out, then the next one spends the other one out next week, and then they're just back and forth little Twitter burbs. Without them doing that, though, the Arca series has no flare.

year. You can race each other without wrecking each other. I'm not saying you need to wreck each other. Well, that's what they're doing. They're just going in there and wrecking each other. Week in and week week out. Ty's got to be the bigger man in that. Yeah. I mean, you've got a lot more on the line than he does. You're literally skipping down to Yellowbrick Road. Yeah, literally. Like you're Dorothy and Toto and all the things. Yeah, your future's mapped out. Just keep skipping down to yellow brick road. Don't do nothing stupid. All right. We're getting off topic here. How are we off topic? We're talking about Ty Gibbs. Switching gears to Indy Car. Marcus Erickson. flies through the air on the lap floor restart and then comes back to win IndyCar's inaugural Nashville Street Race.

Spot on, spot off, TJ. I'm spot on, man. The dude, if he had a sponsor on the bottom of his car, I could have told you what it was. He comes back and wins the race. I didn't understand. So we were taking off right as the race was starting kind of. Lucky you. And we saw the, like I saw the video of this guy run.

I don't know who you ran. Who you run over, Bordeaux? Yes. Just drives over the back of him, like Grave Digger and takes off, flies through the air, and I'm like, wow, what an idiot. And then we're flying, we land like an hour and a half later. And Drew, Drew Herring looks at me and goes, hey, that guy's leading.

I'm like, what guy? He's like, the one that was flying through the air. I was like, no way. Like, I figured, I didn't even, I don't remember the end of the wreck. And then sure enough, we got to Big Al's last night, and Brett's like, look at this. Marcus Erickson won the race. Did he's driving around with his nose cone, all folded up.

and stuff, then he's leading to race and wins. So, hey. I guess they build the thing strong. Spot on, spot off there. Spot on for whatever strategy they pulled to come back from that, because that's impressive, man. What a genius. Yeah.

What did you say, did you say Jimmy Johnson got disqualified or something? Yeah, DQed. He, uh, I guess his team did something under a red flag, kicked him out of the race. I was wondering what happened there. I didn't know. Huh. I had to give a shout out to Indy Carter, though, because that track was pretty cool. I was scared as they came over the bridge.

Well, they had boats on both sides. They were like a, do you see that? So they had two boats on both sides of the bridge and in the water. So if something did happen, they were, divers were equipped ready to go. Wow. How does NASCAR not do that first? Like, how are we not involved in that?

What, boats? No, going to make a Nashville street course. Like, how bad ass is this? What an epic event. Have you, I know there's been talk of doing street courses someday soon. Have you guys heard any more about it? it. Chicago's all we keep hearing.

Rumors. Yeah. We need the schedule to come out. It's freaking August. I mean, put the schedule out. This is always that we're right in the middle. This is where Brett, we're going to have two or three shows about the schedule. Yeah, Brett will just talk about it.

He's the schedule guy. What are we? I got three sponsors I'm working on. Give me the schedule. Why is it so hard? Do you think we don't know where we're going next year right now? I mean, I think they're. I think it's pretty much done.

Yeah. Then why don't we know where we're going? I don't know, though. Maybe they're putting Nashville on there. That's Bob. Bob, send us a response. Bob, pockgrass. Park grass.

Send us a Fing response, Bob. Fing. Spot on, spot off. Trackhouse racing selects Ross Chastain as a driver of its second car for 2022. Team owner, Justin Mark says, I love that Chastain didn't bring any funding to the team. Spot on, spot off.

Freddie. Spot on for Ross. I think he was the obvious. choice. Maybe after Kurt, you know, I think they're probably the best two free agents. So you're not going to get Kurt, who's great, by the way. If you're not going to get Kurt, you might as well get Ross. The money thing, you know, and Ross has shown speed. You know, he's been fast the last, I don't know what, maybe two months. Ever since, it was kind of ever since they blew up those motors at the Coke 600, them two Gannasi cars hauled ass after Hendrick came out and apologized for whatever

they were doing there. So he's shown speed the last month or two. So I think it's a good choice by Justin to get, Ross is a hard-nosed guy. He's going to race his ass off. And it's the money thing, though, you know, well, I guess that's a good reason. If you're a team owner, why would you say I like a guy not bringing me money? Wouldn't you want money? I don't know. Maybe I'm wrong. It takes money to run, doesn't it? Look, Ross can drive a race car. He's done better this year than I thought he would have done. He's been a top seven guy at road courses. So are you saying you're wrong? You were wrong? Wrong about what? he thought he was going to suck?

I didn't think he was going to suck. I thought he was going to wreck a lot because he wrecked a lot last year. He knocked the right side off the car at how many races? Freddy half? All of them, maybe. Seemed like all of them. And cup cars are, I mean, it's the cup series, right?

It's supposed to be harder. I mean, Ross came on this show and said the Exfinity cars were more fun to drive than a cup cars. He probably got in trouble for it, but he said it. Obviously, they're hard to drive. But anyway, I think that I'm surprised by this a little bit because I still think if I'm Justin Marks, and Justin Marks is new to the ownership side of the Cup Series,

and if I'm Justin Marks, I want an A driver, and I don't think he has an A driver and a stable. And I think long-term, I mean, we just talked about it. Chip Canassie Racing has how many championships? You're not going to win a championship with those guys right now. So if you say, so if Kurt clearly off the table for, I don't know where he's going, but, you know, Freddie likes them.

I don't know what you're doing. I mean, what other A drivers would Justin have as an option then? I don't know. But that's Justin's problem. It's not my problem. You can steal someone. You got to go get a guy, right? And nothing against Daniel Suarez, Xfinity Series champion.

Nothing against Ross Chastain. He's won in trucks. He's won in Xfinity Series. He can drive a race car. But you have to have an A guy in your stable. You have to have an A guy to give Ross the car to do, like, a guy that makes the car is better. Not that Ross can't, but, you know, Ross can get everything you can out of a car,

but, you know, like, you have, you need an A at some point, but I'm spot on for Justin saying this because it gives hope, you know, that he's getting sponsors to fund drivers that he wants to put in the car. You know, it's not, well, you know, we said we've had this problem with people just bringing money and getting in cars. Now he's saying, I don't care if for a guy, I'm going to put this guy on a car because I want to. You know, and I think that gives, you know, that's how it used to be, that's how it used to be back in the day, right?

I mean, early 2000, before that it was, it was, well, this guy's the champion here, this guy the champion here, this guy won this, he's got a room full of trophies, he's going to, we're going to put him in there. It gives hope for the guys out of the local track that are trying to get it. Well, the guy that's winning race is that, you know, like a Josh Berry, probably doesn't seem to have a ton of sponsorship following him, but when he gets in a race car, he goes fast in it. I would hire Ross Chastain.

I would hire Josh Barry, but I'm going to hire me an A guy first. Yeah, definitely an A, but I'm saying, like, I'm talking about this comment about, I think it's, you know, that, that's a product of him and his group going out there working and securing funding too, you know. Justin Marks is rich. Well, I'm just saying, it's nice for. He doesn't have to have money. Matt Colleg is rich. He doesn't have to have money. Like, at some point, though, you realize I don't want to spend my money.

I don't want to spend my money. I want to spend the sponsor's money. But it still takes money to do this. It's somebody's money. I mean, he's bringing people in. It seemed, you know, they've had some new sponsors and stuff, too. And I will say that Justin's usually really good at finding, he finds new sponsors. Justin's awesome.

Yeah. What he and Todd Norris are doing is awesome. I agree. I would hire Ross Chastain tomorrow, but at the end of the day, you got to have an A guy. That's an interesting dynamic over there because you're going to have two guys that race their asses off at all times, race hard, hard-nosed guys. and, you know, we've talked about it on here. Do you want a teammate that you're working with or one you're competing against? And I feel like those are two guys that could easily be buttoned heads

and racing each other more so than helping each other. But, you know, it'll be interesting to see how it plays out. Daniel Suarez, I mean, he's on a short lifeline if I'm the owner because he's year, what, six in the cup series right now? Will be next year? Yeah, we'll be next year. I mean, you didn't win at Gibbs. you didn't win at Stuart Haas.

You're not winning here. And look, this isn't the world that Michael Walter grew up in where if you don't win, you get to hang around 20 years. Michael, obviously, at the end of his career, won a lot of huge races. But people aren't that patient anymore. Seats are filling up.

Not a whole lot of seats left at the... I mean, Cole Custer's got to win. But what's his lifeline? How much times he got left? How patient are you going to be? Spending 15 million. I guess it depends on who who's replaced you know who do you got that can put in there but I will say back to Ross in the last couple months you know I've Ross's uh the second half this year

he's really turned the corner of my you know he's starting uh yeah we talk about cars too the those cars have yeah but he like he's making better decisions he's getting more out like you say he's not hitting there he's making just making better decisions in the car and it's showing and that's also a product. I know Brett, I know Brett tried to beat in his head last year. Like, you've got a good car. Like, if you don't, a lot of times these guys that wreck these things

or hit the fans or do it, they're trying to make up for something. You know, you're, you know, a couple tents off and you're trying to push harder to make up for it. When you've got a car that's as fast as the 42's been the last two months, you don't need that extra temperate. You can run 90% and run your top 10, top 12, whatever. You don't need to try that extra 10% and knock the right side off or get yourself in,

trouble. So, I mean, it just always goes back to the, especially the package we run now. The car is I feel like it's 75, 80% of the equation. It might even be more. It's more so now than it's ever been, in my opinion. Like, it's more so now than it has ever been. Spot on, spot off fan and driver engagement leading up to the playoffs as NASCAR reinstated its mask policies for indoor areas at tracks due to the Delta variant. Brett, since you had an opinion on this one. I saw the picture after the race where Kyle Larson was there, signed an autographs for 25 fans, and nobody had a mask on.

And I just thought, man, that's going to be really risky if you're a driver. If you're Austin Hill right now in the truck series, going into a race in what, two weeks? Gateway. Gateway. Man, I'm not going to be, I'm going to take the approach of I'm not going to be around a lot of people. You only have one chance to win the 2021 NASCAR championship in these three series. And I damn sure wouldn't ruin it by signing autographs. I wouldn't ruin it by going to a restaurant.

I wouldn't ruin it by being out in public a whole lot. I would literally isolate myself. And I'm Brett Griffin. I'm a guy who likes people. I like to have fun. But with the goal in mind of winning a championship, I would not risk it because if you get the flu, if you get a cold, if you get food poisoning, guess what?

You can still race. If you test positive for COVID, NASCAR is going to bench you. And if you're benched, unless you're Kyle Larson with a million point bonus lead, maybe he can sign all the autographs he wants all the way to Phoenix. You better keep your ass safe. For your sake, for your sponsor's sake, for your owner's sake, and for your team members' sake, it's literally not worth it. I feel like you saw this in other sports,

you know, hockey, football. When these guys got down to the playoffs, the Super Bowl, they basically went into a bubble. And it was to protect these guys, maybe from themselves, of just, you know, we need, you know, we're not going to be competitive without you. Obviously, these teams aren't going to win championships if the driver's sideline.

It goes for a lot of guys in their team, too, you know. You have to minimize the risk. I worry more about there's some big sprint car races coming up, and I don't know if Kyle's planning out running them or not, but I'll bet Rick Hendon, I'll squash that. I don't know. Maybe not right now, but when those playoffs start,

how can you let that happen if you're Rick Hendrick? That is your investment. Rick Hendrick is literally out of his pocket paying for this guy to race. I mean, that's, and that is, right now it's their best championship shot rate, like two. I mean, I would assume that he's going to run this week, which is the Knoxville Nationals, and then probably not much after that, I would assume. Because I think Saturday nights the Nationals, which is risky, because I'm pretty sure the big event they had in Knoxville last year was a disaster as far as COVID.

Freddie and I went to Cocktail Cove, what, three weeks ago? Something like that. We floated with how many drivers? How many drivers are out there? Four or five. Four or five drivers are out there. If it's the playoffs and Freddie and I go to Cocktail Cove and I see any of them guys, I'm going to tell them to their face, you're an idiot.

If they're in the playoffs. If they're in the playoffs. There wasn't many playoffs drivers. Well, there was a couple. There was a couple. Yeah. There was for sure one. There was for sure one, and there's for sure one Xfinity guy.

Yeah. But I'm going to tell them right now, you're an idiot. Get on your boat and go home. TJ, you agree with me or no? I wouldn't be there. If I'm a playoff guy right now, and I'm not chancing it. The problem isn't that you're going to get COVID. The problem is, and not be able to do your job.

The problem is NASCAR's not going to let you do your job. I didn't understand. One thing I looked at the picture I thought was weird, these weren't people with hot passes. These were, I don't know where this was. It was just random people. You don't need a hot pass. Victory Lane, where Victory Lane is there. Between the garage is there.

Yeah, but so, I mean, that's campers right there. They have, I don't, and after the race is probably. Yeah, they'll give, like, post-race access or they used to anyways. Because I don't remember now. Is there things in place to get a VIP pass or no? You can't through spot through teams, but it's limited. It's still not wide open. But even after the race, if he goes, Victory Lane, does his media, by that

time, there's probably nobody working them gates. You're talking an hour after the race at that point, everyone's pretty much gone, except for the, you know, as handful of fans. Listen, I love the fact that Kyle Larson has signed an autographs. Yeah, there's nothing wrong with that. I'm not, I'm not, this isn't about Kyle Arson. This is about the opportunity of a lifetime for every single guy this playoff eligible. Don't fuck it up.

You don't know when your last win is going to be. There might, you never know. Nor your last playoff appearance. Nor your last chance to be top five in points. You never know. Win the championship. You don't know. we've seen A guys win a race and then go a year and a half before the next win.

I mean, it's happened. Look at Denny. I mean, Michael Jordan in his freaking documentary, what did he say about the headache pill? He said, so they said, you know, he had a leg injury, and they told him that, you know, you could play on it, but there's a 10% chance that you, if you heard it again, you're going to end your career. And the owner said to him, if, you know, he's like, I want to play, obviously. He was a competitor. He wanted to play. So he said, well, if you, what if I told you, I'm going to give you the 10% chances.

I'm going to give you a bottle with 10 pills in it. And you got a headache. And these are aspirin. But one of them 10 could kill you. Would you take the aspirin? And he said, it depends on how bad my fucking head hurts. So, I mean, I don't, you know, but yeah, like, I don't know. It's just, I mean, you.

There's a difference in ending your career and killing you, though. It's the same analogy. You don't play a basketball game, but you still live a pretty. You retire well. You can say, well, not at that point because he was, this is only like a two years in. Yeah, it was like a second season. So it wasn't like he was at the end of his career. Area Jordan didn't exist yet.

Yeah, no. But, I mean, it's saying that you see the numbers and it's always like, you know, 1%. But I mean, if there's a hundred, there's 25 in that picture, there's no telling how many are not in that picture. And if one of those hundred people that are in that, you know, he sees after that race have it and transfer it, well, that's the risk you were taken with that 1%. People are idiots. People, you know, you sent out a tweet, man, if I were a playoff guy. I wouldn't do this when it gets supposed to play. You must have a block button out last.

Kyle Larson, I'm not talking about Kyle Larson, you idiots. People can not literally not read and comprehend writing anymore. It's unbelievable. Hey, real quick, do we have a pass for the lead? We didn't even have a pass for the lead. It was on Pitt Road, wasn't it? Larson passed Truex on the pit road, yeah. Yeah, so we didn't even have, like, the last pass.

Like, they didn't even got a chance to race each other. Okay. Like, how's that a good race? 83% of people disagree with you. 750 package, short race. I mean, I could see if those, and we've had... Jeff Klux said he's going to stop doing the poll because people vote yes on $750. That's all they do.

It's skewed. And the driver's skewed big time. Yeah. Like it... Yeah. And that was a big part of it because Chase made it exciting because Chase was the fastest car at the end of the race, so he's blowing through. So all the Chase fans thought it was a great race, I'm sure. Spot on, spot off.

The Cup series will run the Indianapolis Mother Speedway Road Course for the first time ever this weekend. instead of the oval. Spot on, spot off, TJ. I'm spot on. I'm ready to try something else there. And I think we need some adjusting on the formats for the road course stuff like we were talking about. But every time we go to a new road course, it's usually pretty exciting. And the first races are usually, I mean, I think they're okay. Most of the time, Daytona road course was pretty good.

I am 1,000% spot off. I hate to be the guy to say this. We are running too many road courses. I am, man, we people go, oh man, NASCAR to good old days. We made our living on ovals. Why in the hell are we running all these roadcourses? And now we're going to the second most famous racetrack, arguably the most famous racetrack in America. I personally love Daytona more.

We're going to one of the most famous racetracks in America. America and we're running the road course. This makes zero sense. I mean, you even look at a guy like, you know, I wish we should call Brisco on this because Briscoe is an Indiana guy. And, you know, he wins last year. I think it's probably like one of his first attempts at Indy. He wins and it's on the road course.

Yeah. And it's like, yeah, I dreamt about, you know, in his interviews, like I dreamt about winning here growing up. Yeah, but did you dream about winning on the road course? No. Like, there's no way. It's just definitely a different feel. It's just the allure of Indianapolis. And if we're going to, listen, I'm good with just taking Indianapolis off of the NASCAR schedule.

Because, listen, it's not a racetrack built for our kind of cars. It's not, it's just never going to be conducive to good racing. Now, the road course might be better, but it's not the same. And I was good with, you know, going to another, like go to IRP or figure something out. But, you know, if we're going to be running at Indianapolis Motor Speedway, we should just run the Oval. because that's the brickyard, that's the tradition. That's the, you know, like you said, one of the most famous ovals in the world.

We're literally not even running the brickyard. Because the brickyard is the oval that was made out of bricks. We're running the freaking grass in the infield. We're crossing the bricks. Yeah, freaking three foot of them. Backwards. Yeah. Backwards.

Yes. I'm sorry. I think that. I mean, I'm going to hear this and fans are going to love it or hate it. We're going to too many road courses. I think we need to go to road courses the same frequency we go to plate races. One every quarter of the season.

I agree. And you have four road courses and be done with it. I'm down with that. I don't know why you would go to, you know, are we going to go to eight? Six, seven, eight. What are we doing? I mean, we're at seven now and you're talking about a street course. Seven now and we're talking about a street course for next year.

So that's eight. So what do you remove? Indy, the only one. Indy. Um, I would go to either Cota or Road America. Daytona Road course. Daytona Road course. Yeah.

Bye. The Roval. See you. you know, if we're going to go to road courses, let's go to road courses. Let's not go to ovals that are kind of built into road courses. You know, it's just, that's three right there. If you take the three rovals out of the equation, that's your four road course races. Fire whoever keeps wanting to go to all these road courses.

I've got a question for you at first. If Indy, like it's not built for stock cars or whatever, how did it for 15 years put on such a big event? It still wasn't a great race. It was just a big event because it was Indianapolis. How did it sustain itself for those? It was 15 years. Jason, it would still be sustaining itself if we didn't have that tire debacle where we could only run eight laps at the time. Because look at Watkins Glen.

Tell me in the state of New York, it's a big state. Tell me in the state of New York where you would want to go this past weekend and have more fun than Watkins Glen, New York. Oh, nowhere. In the state of New York? I could think of a couple places on there. Dude, that place is, they're there lined up on Wednesday to get in that place. They do. And it don't matter.

It's the place to be, and it just so happens. They run some rocks. I saw people leaving Sunday morning. Indianapolis, man, was the same thing. It's a culture thing, Jason. I think, again, we should not be on a road course there. If we're going to run at Indianapolis, run at the brickyard, on the oval, or go to IRP. Don't.

Well, this is a stupid idea. I'm sorry. Tell us how you really feel. I am. And I was okay. I was fine last year with Xfinity Road. course and cup on the oval. Me too.

You know, that was, I'm okay with that because that's kind of similar to like your Indy 500 weekend where Indy cars go and run the road course the week before and then they run the Indy 500 or, you know, a couple weeks before, whatever. And then they run. So, you know, I'm good with if you want to have a race on the road course, sure. Run the Xfinity on the road, run the trucks, whatever on the road course and then have the cup cars on the oval. I will tell you guys this.

That racetrack is, I don't know how old it is. It's old. It's really old, yeah. It is pristine. Roger Penske has that. place absolutely immaculate. It is as clean as any racetrack we go to. And it looks like you're walking to Disney. There's not a, it's so clean. Other racetracks need to take note. The operations guys there, hats off to you guys. I don't know if any of you guys listen, but if you do,

hats off. That place is, I think that's part of why that place is able to sustain too, is because it's, it's, it's, you look at that place, you know, man, this place is terrifying going back here. The, the renovations they've done and how they keep it up, like, You don't mind going back to it because it's just like you walk into there. When we went last year and sat and turned one to spot, which by the way was the worst spot or location I've ever had in my career, I cannot believe how clean the bathrooms were. It's ridiculous.

How clean the asphalt was. How clean our seats were. Everything. I mean, unbelievable. Yeah, and that's, like, that's part of the reason I just think people want to go there. But I'm going to shift gears here a minute. If I'm a fan and I'm within three-hour driving distance to that racetrack, I'm going to go to this race because it's going to be a shit show.

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Glad he's okay though, but that was pretty freaky him getting out under green. TJ, there's not enough love for you around here. You don't suck. He sucks. What happened with other men? So I think the dash burned up or something. I guess it was on fire

or burning what I heard. This is all rumor. I don't know. But it was smoking or the dash was burning up for like two laps and then I guess maybe it caught fire. And he stopped. And I looked at the big street. I'm sure. I don't know where you were for the infinity rates at that point.

I was on top. But I mean, we're under green. And somebody said there's, like NASCAR come on the radio and said there's a car stopped in the S's somewhere. It was not, it wasn't, they weren't talking about Weatherman. And as they're talking about that, I see Weatherman just sitting on the door of his car under green on the backstretch. I'm like, oh, God. And then he gets out and runs away. And I was, I was writing him in as my one idiot until I found out maybe he was on fire.

So, but he got out. He reached back in there and put it in gear. Did he? Yeah. he got out then the car started rolling backwards on him so he reached back in there and just jam in gear then went over and hopped over the guardrail what a crazy turn of events that was he did look like ricky bobby for a minute y'all'll be careful around tj today anytime he hears a noise he's going to be looking over his shoulder hoping brad ain't about to hit him in the butt

and god forbid brett i'm proud of you because i thought when freddy said you were going to be spot in the bus stop of walking school and you were going to end up downtown lost somewhere so glad to see you made it safe and sound holly boys I kind of lost track of what he was saying in the middle there a little bit, but yeah. Freddy! Freddy! Woo! Man, I went through that tweeter box thing machine, and I saw a photo of your house with that couch in it.

And I just got one question. One single question. What the ever-loving fuck is that? I know, right? I heard it was big, but that thing's got its own weather system. You can leave it outside and just live in it. I mean, it's so damn big, light on fire, in the middle of a range and snow. storm at JFK and land of big birds.

Woo! That thing is huge. No wonder you hang around with another spotter. It takes two of you to move your family through the living room. Poor Megan must wake up in the middle of the night. I can hear the words echoing in her head. Cushin, corner, clear! What the fuck?

What was he described? I was worried he was talking about something else. Was that Dillner? It sounded like Dillard. I don't think so. It was that your couch. Dillner's not that creative like that. That guy was too witty.

Did you hear, speaking of Dillner, it's off topic, did you hear Dillner's call this Bowman Gray stadium stock race the other night? No. Hold on. Yeah, we've got to hear it. I mean, we've got to hear it. Jason, you've heard this, right? No.

What? Even better. Hold on. This was one of the, so there's a car that runs, I think they're called stadium stocks. They're like the four cylinders of Bowman Gray. And there's a car called the Pintang, right? Is that like the furry? car it. It's half

Mustang, half Pinto. And Dillner loves this thing. 69, nice. Wait, you're coming to checkers. He sounds like one of them announcers from overseas that they record and put on there. I mean, Dillner was excited about that.

Yeah, I mean, is there, can we like, like, do a, let's start a GoFundMe to rent, three of them one time on an off weekend. Have Dillner announce it. Yeah, we'll, Ostrillo race. How much is it to do it?

It can't be much. Why we got to start to go fund me? T.J., you make $200 grand a year. Just go to GoPro. No, no, we need to go to Bowman Gray. If Freddie sells his couch, we can afford a rip one of these things. If someone doesn't take that picture of Freddy's couch and put it on the other side of the garden

with a car weatherman sitting on her or something at Wuckusk's Glenn. I don't even know what... I don't remember posting a picture on my couch, but... Maybe Megan did. Megan might have. All right, DBC. Gotta give a shout out to a guy that introduced many people into your podcast. Listen to it for three or four years.

Passed away last week. Four one out for the great Caleb Johnson. Love you guys. Love to see what y'all do. Let's have one for him. All right. We'll have one for O'Kal. Me and Freddy's going to pop the top on this whiskey again.

Thanks for listening, Caleb. Love you, buddy. Hope you're RIP there. I did I'm Freddy, I still buy that shoes I did pass the guy and I didn't realize

it was him after the race I passed the guy that over slept for Atlanta Jimmy Wags I saw him I wanted to he went behind

I'm like damn that guy oh that's the guy that missed the Atlanta race or whatever I mean it yeah so that's kind of cool yeah he texts me

during the race I think he's coming Daytona he told him I get him a couple of hot passes because I'm that nice Casey. Hey, TJ, you're awesome. Freddie. Huh? Brad Griffin? I want a beer with you. Yes. Let's go. Have a beer with you.

All right. Collins are so weird this week. I think they're all Jason's buddies. That's not true. Was that Andrew? We give you guys. We give you two off weeks and you all go out and do some weird shit. Where are we at here? Last one. Oh, I know who this is. Hey, Penn Time wins. They call him fast, but that's a lie. He runs in last, because he can't drive. He couldn't even pass that mother-fripped Derek Co. His cars held together with duct tape and home.

Poor Anthony Alfreda. This guy's going to have to come on the show. He has earned the right to sit on in the show and have an opinion. for an hour with us. When did Jed Burton learn to play with the guitar? This guy's going to get a record deal off of this show. We need a music video. We need Mike Davis to front the money, and let's do a music video.

Alex will shoot it. Dillner will produce it or direct it. Jason can produce it. Commentate it? Casey can wear bikinis and post it all over Instagram like she does on vacation. And it'll be a hit. With her ritz crackers. Yeah.

Do that line? It's held together by duct tape and hope. I want to meet this guy. What does he look like? Does he look as good as he sales? Jeb, send us a picture. Come on the show. Do we know, Jason? Jeff, don't send me a picture.

I'm good on a picture, but you want to come in the studio. That's fine. I'm good on pictures. Jeb, what are you wearing? Cackies. Cackies. Timmy Hill walked into the we were leaving for the truck race on Friday. Timmy Hill walked in.

Like, hey, Timmy from State. Farm. Do you have khakis on? The idea is like short these khakis over short as I'm like, hey Timmy, State Farm. It's so funny. Jeb, that's good. Jeb's killing it. Solid job. As always. To leave

an audio message 24-7, go to anchor.fm. slash door bumper clear and click the message icon. We'll keep playing the best ones each week on the show. Or ask Jeb how to do it because he's got it down. Offer pad, question of the week. If you had to spend

a week in your home with just one other member of the DVC crew. Oh no. Who would you choose and why? Brett. I'm going to choose Casey. God. That's not true. There's no way.

Can she refuse? Do I want to know? I refuse. I'm used to living in a freaking mess and I saw how she left that airplane so I'd be right at home. It'd be awesome. Literally hate you. Freddie.

Process of elimination. It can't be Brett because we would die. uh t j would drive me crazy yeah i'm case is cuter than i am case he's got a babysit so i it's got to be jason i guess yeah jason all of a great week bring all the white claws and well i'll teach you how to do shots sounds good i uh my initial reaction was going to be casey but then i realize how neat i am and how messy casey is so you know i hope everybody realizes that this is a friend that Brett was on? Because he's actually really nice

when he's not on the show. You know that first time you let a kid feed themselves in their own high chair? The one you take a picture of and it's all over their face. That's what the plane look like. Look like, okay,

but I would still pick Casey anyway. Thank you. Thank you. And my dice and vacuum cleaner. So when are the three of us going away for a week? Maybe I would pick Casey

just to give Chad a bruce. break. Maybe. I just... Ted troubles! Are you kidding me? Poor Chad. He literally... He's never here. I don't know what happened this week, but I saw Chad for five days and he won like three races. We were in line at the TSA. He looked at me. He was like, save me. That's such a lie.

He held up for a sheet of paper. He slept the whole plane. Blink twice if you need help. He slept the whole plane ride. He did Morse code for SOS. Did he have headphones in? Yes, he had headphones in and he slept. Oh, my gosh. He was tapping Morse code on the back of your chair. Did you hear that? They said Chad had his headphones on while she had the screaming kid.

Yeah. Yeah, he slept. We had a stomach virus, so you were in better shape than us. If Keely had not been sick, Keely threw up all day Friday on vacation, which was amazing, by the way. Wake up at 6 a.m. to, wha. I'm like, oh, that's not, oh, that's not normal. Had Keely not been sick, she would have held Chloe the whole flight because she loves kids. Well, thank you.

And she wouldn't have made a mess like that. Thank you. We can move on, Casey. You're in charge. Thank you. Just keep moving. Go get a cash offer on your home today with our presenting sponsor, offerpad.com. Time for the X-Findity X-Fi more than fast moments.

It's that time again where we discuss our favorite X-Finity X-Fi more than fast moments. Whether you're on or off the track, speed isn't the only thing you need. What were your favorite more than fast moments this week? Freddie. I'll go to the Xfinity. race and Ty Gibbs coming back from two bad restarts to be probably the two best or worthy best road course racers in the Xfinity series in Austin Cindrick and AJ Almondinger and just the fact that how fast he got through the bus stop in the closing laps of that race will be a more than

fast moment for me. I hate to do this but my more than fast moment is going to be something that didn't happen. It's going to be something that's about to happen. I think the spotter stand is going to see major shakeups and we're going to see some guys moving more than fast. ever to get new jobs. I think Tyler Green holds the key to what happens because he could stay at Canassie. He could potentially try to go with his Xfinity Series driver. Or he could potentially try to go with his existing driver, Kurt Busch. And I think once that domino falls, we have a more than fast moment for spotters moving

around. T.J. I'm going to go with a guy that's won the last two truck races on completely different types of racetracks. I'm going to go with Austin Hill. Quietly won the disaster. He won the Derek Krauss 150 at Knoxville. Or whatever it was. And then he puts in another solid run at Waukes-Glan.

So that's pretty impressive to go and do that. He won everything at Waukes-Cland, right? Both stages and the race. He won the first stage. Yeah, I don't even won the first stage, but from there on out, he short-pitted. I was having a follow on Twitter. I was traveling. But I agree, man, more than fast, for sure.

Yeah, he's doing good. Man, we like it fast here on Doorbumper Clear, but what we really like is being more than fast. Thankfully, there's always a ton of action for our Xfinity X-Fi more than fast moments. You know what else is more than fast? X-FINITY X-5. With the speed for all your devices, you get the reliability and security that keeps your crew. My favorite part, connected and protected. On the track being more than fast means you've got the teamwork and strategy to win.

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create your account with anchor you can also utilize their feature and make your own podcast tj will be your first guest so download the free anchor app or go to anchor dot fm to get started that's a n c h oar dot fm to get started what an idiot and i'd like to nominate brett for being an idiot this week just this week you sure in general idiot's not the word you want to use yep i'm like you to p g brett who's your one idiot this week ah man there's so many candidates and there's literally thousands of them on Twitter. It's got to be the guy that got out of the car under green with a fake fire. It might not have been a fake fire.

You weren't in there. I'm an idiot. I've never seen that. I was literally watching this play out from the freaking second spotter stand where you had to fistfight to get a spot to be able to see the race. And I'm watching down this song straightaway and this car parks and this guy jumps out and takes off running. And I'm like, what just happens? You got fire ants in there? Like, it's what happened.

So I'm going to go same race, different car. The six? The six. Yeah. Jason, can you look up it? I don't even know what this guy's name was. It was like two Ems, like Mike Murrell. This guy, first he can't even get his car off pit road to start the race.

Like they're sitting there trying to get him off. We're coming around. They're trying to push him out of the way so we can do our pit road speed. So now he's floundering around way behind everybody and just goes and buries the this thing by me in the in the carousel wall yeah i don't know how he wasn't going fast enough i didn't think to wreck that hard and then i see i look up and this is all this is only the moments i saw there's no telling what happened at the times i didn't see but uh they're lapping him and he just drives he's all over the place to the bus stop sliding through the grass comes out all

over the place like let me tell you the dumbest thing that's some of these guys didn't see Remember when the five car went firewall deep into the tires and the bus stop? There are 17 safety trucks and 42 people on a racetrack. He came by there running 130 miles an hour. Had we been at an oval and had David Hoots been in the booth, he would have left the booth and went down there and kicked that guy's ass. You've never seen anybody be so stupid around safety equipment. The five?

He is, the six. He was one part breaking away from literally putting three people's lives in jeopardy. This guy, first of all, I don't know his name. Second of all, I don't know how he gets qualified to run a race of this caliber. Exfinity Series should be extremely difficult to be qualified to come and do. And this guy runs dead last, a half a lap down in Rex, which is stupid. But then he comes by here, and clearly NASCAR didn't know it or they would have went nuts on this guy. He was running.

They don't like that at all. They shouldn't either. He was running entirely too fast to be around this equipment at a part of the racetrack where if something does go wrong, you're literally going to be pointed right at them. So you're absolutely right. What do you got for a name, Jason? Michael Munley.

Michael Munley, congratulations. You're an idiot. First of all, that guy, when the camera on the front stretch goes to where the sixth wrecked, you looked at that wreck and you were like, whoa, that dude hit hard. And then he backs it out and drives back to pit road, and then they fix it and he keeps going.

I mean, here's... Me and Hayden Reeves were literally in tears laughing at how a bunch of an idiot that guy was. Maybe I should change my what an idiot. because if it was me, what an idiot, I would have, maybe it was the crew, because the crew should have just let the six minute clock run out. Like, yeah, we're cutting stuff here. We're good.

Hold on. Give it a minute. Oh, yeah. We're out of time. We're done. Yeah. Like, how much that guy pay to run that rush? I don't know, but it ain't enough.

And I've worked for Johnny Davis. You know Johnny Davis. All Johnny Davis wants to do is not wreck his equipment. Finish. He don't care if it's 35th or third. As long as the car don't get scratched, he's happy. And that thing was scratched. Killed.

According to his Twitter, he's a JD Motorsports intern. That was what it looked like. Probably social media. Or parts washer. TJ, who you got? Ah, well, I've got a... I think we're kind of forgetting what happened in the beginning of the truck race

when you're going to turn one at a guy goes from the far left of the track to the far right of the track. And it's a championship contender. Which, but that... Who? Who was it? That was John Hunter. Yeah.

Oh, I didn't see that. Comes all the way from, goes from the left to the right, clips, maybe the 99 on the left rear quarter panel sends him off. Like, it was chaos in turn one, which was kind of fun. It was interesting. I lost like 13 spots because we had to go way out wide. But that's up there. The six is up there.

I had another good one from the truck race, but I can't remember it. And then I started thinking about football. and I started thinking about the idiots and the Panthers that let Sean McDermott and Brandon Been go to Buffalo. So I don't know. Maybe I need to give John Hunter those glasses. I never got him.

Oh, by the way. I did run into him at Knoxville, and he said he asked for you to gotten your glasses yet. I saw him at Pocono, and I said, where's those glasses at? He said, you ain't send me this prescription yet. I said, well, it's got to be the strongest one they make, whatever it is.

You might want to let your driver try him. Jesus. Yeah. Is he far-sight or near-sighted? I don't know. Whatever it costs, whichever one makes you run to the back of people is what he is. Think you've heard all the stories from racing's past? Think again, Dirty Mo Media's newest podcast, glorious, white-knuckle, God-Ferring, spun out and half-turned-over racing stories

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I don't know if I saw Chris Busher all day. Like I don't even know if I saw. Where he finished is pretty much where he was all day. By the way, you were on my idiot list too. I was. Yeah. Well, your guy's last corner was. Oh, my God.

Bubba? Dude. He deserves it for that last corner. We're three, four crawling's about not even close enough to even attempt to pass. And Bubba goes into the last corner in the right front's smoke and misses the corner. corner, we beat him at the line by like a foot. Like, what happened in my section? Well, you were in the car already at that point.

T.J., you are at first for Indy. Is Ammendinger running? No. Is Cendrick running or he's done? Yes, he's running. Cendrick is running, but I think I already used him up. I did. And he finished 38th at Cota, or not Cota, Road America.

Solid work by me. man, I got on to go with a guy that's been running decent lately, especially at road courses. Chase Briscoe. He did have a good run yesterday. He's won this place. He's won here before. He's got some experience.

I like that pick. I'm going to go with Austin Cendrick. Christopher Bell. Bell's been on fire. Road courses. Freddy got lucky because when we picked good guys, our good guys had luck, and Freddie took advantage of that.

He did. All right, well, heading into Indie, If you guys are in the area, make sure you go to the BC 39, too. That should be a fun one. Freddie will tell you how much you love me. I love Indy. Hey, listen to this.

Ryan Newman, 38th. Chase Elliott 21st. Kurt Bush, 39th. Brad Keselowski, 33rd. Those are solid. Chris Rbell, 24th. Sounds like you suck at picking. It sounds like I am...

I've only got one... Chase Briscoe. I am sorry if you have bad luck. Sorry. The races I've won, I think I only had one guy out of the top ten. Hey, it's Freddy's birthday week. We mentioned that? Probably.

What day is your birthday are actually on? Friday, Friday the 13th. I was born on Friday the 13th. Probably explains a lot. How old are you going to be? 39. You're not going to be that old. Yeah, 39.

No wonder you got so much gray in your beard. 39? I don't know if it's, I don't know if it's Megan or Bubba, but one of them has been Yeah, you got a lot of gray in beer. I've got a lot of gray lately. Yeah. Wow. But I didn't shave from the race morning of the last race,

and I shaved Friday, Thursday night before we left for the Glam. And I had like one or two tiny, like, small gray hairs. So, I mean, you, I started with one or two about five years ago. Now look at me. I feel like it's grown just in the last few months. It looks like you got Stevie Reeves going off your chin. It's going to be all white soon, I guess. What are we going to do for your 40th if you make it that long?

I know. I was going to say first of what you got to get there. Megan says to me, she says, I've already got your 40th birthday plan planned out. Damn. I was like, all right, cool. She's like, I just got to enlist the help of, like, Brett and Rob, and I was like, I'm not interested. Rob's my best friend from back home, and Brett's an idiot. So I'm like, maybe I don't think I want to go to that party.

How does my phone know it's your birthday? Look, Freddie birthday, Friday. It's on your calendar. All right. Well, Jason's probably going to hate this as we continue talking. He's looking at me. He missed us. I hadn't seen Jason in a month.

And he's literally had nothing to do for two weeks. Brett, next week, you can do it Outer Banks Review after you watch the show. Dude! I love that show. It's my favorite show. I'm almost done with it. Don't talk about it. Wait till next week.

I'm not almost done with it. Take your headset off because he's going to say something. The episode that I'm watching, the guy just fell off the top of the pagoda. You're only on. You just started, right? I'm like episode five. Is that the show I walked about? My wife was watching.

Is it the one? Like, I saw some. They're all really hot. Some kids were... The girls? Yeah, TJ's definitely... The guys. I was going to say the girls were not the hot.

They were video in some dude and the gun went down a drain or something? Yeah. Okay, that was that show? Yeah. I don't watch one minute. She's watched it. Yeah. All right, next week.

Have you watched Ted Lasso? Jason, let's have a... Dude, it's hilarious. Break some white claws over. We'll watch it. Well, thank you all, as always, for listening. Let's drag the show out a little bit more for Jake. So, Knoxville Nationals this week.

You got to put everybody... If you're not an indie, go to Knoxville, that's probably, that's on my, that's on my bucket list of races I want to go to. Chad last night tried to say, oh, hey, like, what if I went on Friday? And I said, oh, hey, no. Go for the truck race. It's the Knoxville Nationals. Like Casey said, BC39's next week.

Midge racing's fun. It is fun. And if you do go there, take a trip through the Sprint Car Hall of Fame. Oh, yeah. The only thing I can tell you, if you ever go midger racing, do not let Chris Windham do your travel. That's the only thing I can tell you. Why, didn't you ride with him? Yes, I did.

Okay, well, how much did you? pay him to say your name in Victory Lane. I didn't pay him anything. You did nothing. You literally sat. He probably had a beer. I'll spot my ass off. But no, I mean, I don't know what he planned, but we had,

I think we drove seven hours to the hotel every night after the races. So, we need to find a happy medium because that schedule, I'm just doing his piss Jason off at this point. But the NASCAR schedule is we start a little too early, And we end early so we can enjoy our night. And that schedule, like, starts too late because then you get out, it's like 11.

So I need to find some kind of happy medium because you don't start until 6 o'clock. The dirt races? Yeah, like the midget races, we didn't start until like 6 o'clock. Especially when they're on. So then you're done by. And the one drive me crazy. I feel like the outlaw races are done quick. Yeah, they're quick.

But like the one midget race we went to like they were going to be out of there like 8 o'clock and they took an hour long intermission to work the track. I'm like, you sons of I'm like, you sons of shit. Like, this is my dad. Welcome to my life. Hey, can we go to that bar Friday night, that beaver bar? You want to go to the beaver bar?

We should clarify, it's the wild beaver. It's a cariopee. Okay, Jason is literally. So, the crew kept going on and on for 45 more minutes, talking about every little thing that came to mind. So we decided to end this week's story here. The end. Check out Dirty Mo Media on YouTube, Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram.

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