Door Bumper Clear - 226 – Michigan: Fired & Hired

Episode Date: August 23, 2021

Michigan International Speedway race weekend is in the books and T.J. Majors, Freddie Kraft and Brett Griffin are back with lots to share after a newsy week. A spotter swap at Team Penske shifted TJ from the No. 22 team of Joey Logano to his longtime friend Brad Keselowski’s No. 2 team. T.J. tells all about why the decision was made and how it impacts his future.The gang fills in the listeners about a meeting with NASCAR that took place at Indianapolis Motor Speedway. Hear how the show made history and what impact it has moving forward. Before jumping into the Cup Series race, the guys talk the lights going out for the Truck Series race at Gateway and A.J. Allmendinger’s career progression and his reconciliation with Brett.Corey LaJoie was forced to sit out Michigan after a close contact tested positive for COVID. Hear what made his situation unique and what it says about NASCAR’s health and safety protocols moving forward. How should teams and playoff drivers react? Should NASCAR follow other major sports leagues with weekly testing? The table weighs in.Glimpses of the old Michigan delighted the spotters over the weekend as the resin traction compound allowed for multi-groove racing. Hear how the spotters felt about the track conditions and the quality of racing the surface produced.Contact between Brad Keselowski and Austin Dillon crossing the finish line for Stage 2 sent the No. 3 car into the wall, ending his promising day. T.J. tells us what happened from Keselowski’s perspective.With drafting in full effect on Sunday, Hendrick Motorsports teammates Kyle Larson and William Byron were in assist mode up front. However, did their instance on working together cost them the race? The crew debates on what the best strategy was for those trying to make passes for the lead and how Ryan Blaney ultimately outdid them all.Heading into the regular season finale at Daytona International Speedway, its anyone’s game to win and secure a playoff berth from outside the top-16 in points. Hear what the spotters think is the best approach to take heading into Saturday night and which drivers to watch out for.In Reaction Theatre, fans overwhelm T.J. with so many congratulations, inquire about his blocking teachings and ask Freddie how the No. 23 got upside down. Want more DBC? Check out and subscribe to the new DBC YouTube channel! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Bumper Clear I'm Tj Majors and you're listening to Door Bumper Clear presented by Offerpad. Quiet week for everyone right. Not much to cover. I don't say everyone. Not us. I guess we'll talk my new job.

Driver COVID protocols, Brad Keselowski and Austin Dillon's Crash, Daytona playoff, cutoff expectations and much more. Ready, set, go. Nobody's listening, but I don't care. I'm on an episode of Doorbump. Upper clear. Hey, everybody. I'm PJ Majors.

Spotter of the two cup car. The what? What? Yeah, I did the one truck and the two car. I mean, I try to do an order. They try to make it as easy as possible for it.

I try to do an order. But full house again. I got to give you a big congratulations. Thanks. I appreciate it. Next subject. We are hands down

the record-breaking spotter for a guy to get fired and hired that fast. I don't know what you're talking about. Jason, cut that. I've never seen anybody get fired and hired within the same one-hour time frame. Brett Griffin's spotter for this weekend. I got Jeff Burton on Saturday.

Kaz Grala on Sunday with Colleg Racing. It's going to be a fun show today, Freddie. Yeah, hold on. It's a blast. I mean, I can't wait. I wish that was alcohol. What's up, Freddie Crafts? Spotter for the upside-down 23.

I need to do. What car did I do this week? The 10, Jab Burton. I didn't have a trip race. But yeah. Well, hello, everyone. Except Bojangles I brought you for breakfast. Yeah, that is the one time you will ever be nice this whole season.

So I guess we'll have to get. It's because I got up at 7 o'clock in the morning. I actually got up at 6.30 is Jovi's first day of high school. And I was semi-emotional driving her to school. And I had her and her one of her best friends of Luke Pannebacher. And I'm in the car. And I drop them off. And I just see all these long-haired horny boys walking around.

and I just am about to vomit. So I figured to try to compensate for my shittity start to my day that I would try to do something nice for you guys and bring you breakfast for the first time. So I hope you enjoyed your biscuits from Bojangles this morning. Well, I'll have to say, well, first off, Jason, how are you? Thank you for breakfast, Brett. Yes. You're welcome. His one and only time.

But you are in serious trouble because Joby looked amazing in that picture you posted. So I am so sorry for what you're not to deal with. I've seen all these long. Do you know what it's like to sit down with your breakfast for everybody? 14-year-old daughter and talk to her about how boys are asses. I hope that wasn't you. It was a 40-minute conversation where I'm essentially telling her to... Avoid you?

Yes. Yes. Yes. That's exactly right. It's really, really, honest to God, stressful day. I don't like my kids having to go back to school because it means I don't get as much time with them. I don't like them going back to school because it means... They're now a year older, right?

And her going into high school, obviously, is a big, big chapter. More freedom, all the things that you don't want to have happened to your daughter start happening. So, yeah, it's a great day to be me. Yes, well. So I try to get in a better mood. I'll put on all my Gamecock gear. I brought you guys breakfast.

Brett looks like he's on his way to tailgate as soon as he has. I'll post a picture because you have some, you need some style. Whatever you're picturing, it's worse. Yeah, it is honestly worse. It's not totally bad because he doesn't have the draw. shorts on. Usually he's got jorts on where you can see hanging out of the bottom of it. Shoes socks and I promise you if he has underwear on the underwear

matching. I'm surprised you don't have your like mask, a helmet. Well. Well, let's address. I wouldn't even be surprised if he tattooed his do funny. I don't want to know and move on to the next topic. Let's address the elephant in the room, TJ. All of our listeners are mad because you didn't tell him about this last week. So break it down.

What happened? When did you find out? Been solid if I knew. Yeah. But, no, I didn't know until, you know, the meetings were Tuesday and, you know, just had a meeting. And Joey said he would like to work with Coleman. He says they feel like they had that best friend connection. He said he felt like Coleman was at my level.

And that he felt like. Is Coleman at your level? I don't. I don't know. I mean, I really don't know. The drivers are the ones. that need to make that choice, you know, and, you know, everybody has a different style of spotting and blends with different drivers, you know, differently, you know, like, it just needs, you know,

some work, some don't. But, you know, he expressed that he and Coleman wanted to work with each other, and, you know, I was all for it because I text you after and I'm like, look, it's very rare that this happens that you get the chance to work with your best friend. And, you know, Freddy's, Freddy's in a similar boat with Bubba, but it's not very often you get to go to work with some of your best friends. You know, you got to work with Elliot. I got to work with Dale Jr. You know, for 10 years. And there is a different connection there.

You know, when you do that, your family's vacation together, you do things together, you're out, you know, you hang out together a lot. And those guys get the chance to do that. So, you know, I'm really, I'm happy for them to get that opportunity. You know, kind of disappointed. you know, a little bit because I went there thinking it was going to be a long-term, long-term thing with Joey and, you know, and he wasn't sure, he told me when we started that he didn't really wasn't sure he wanted a chance that friendship, because if it doesn't work, it could really hurt the friendship, but, you know, he thinks Coleman has gotten good enough now to where he can

do it, so, you know, I'm happy for them guys to get the opportunity to do that. One to ten meter of you were surprised when you walked in the meeting and they told you, weren't going to stay on the 22 next year initially? Probably a 10. Yeah, I mean, I've probably a 10 because I've had, me and Joey have had zero issues as far as I. I mean, we've never had to go over things. Everything we've came up, we've always been on the same page about. I think we, his driving style and my spotting style worked really well with each other.

No real issues. He understood what I was explaining, you know, in the time when it was happening, light and could adjust accordingly quickly. So there was no problems there anything, but yeah, probably a 10. I've seen two spotters, two driver spotter scenarios in my career here. Maybe there's more. Maybe I just didn't pay attention. But I recall Paul Menard getting rid of a spotter and then eventually taking him back.

I recall Austin Dillon getting rid of a spotter and then taking him back. What happened? I mean, Joy got wrecked yesterday. I'm not saying it was Coleman's fault, but he got wrecked. What happens if he? goes to Daytona this weekend and decides he screwed up and changes his mind. Do you go back? No, there's not going to be a, I mean, I don't, I don't feel, that doesn't make me comfortable to be able to do that because who knows if he, you know, I just don't feel comfortable. And I, you know,

I feel like I have other opportunities that I will feel comfortable in, you know, and not have to worry because that's going to be in the back of your mind. Now, this is, this has always been in the back of my mind from the beginning, you know, it's always kind of there. And it's, you know, it's, You know, it's not that I was overly... Sorry. There's an ice cream truck. There's no way in hell you would fit in that thing. Don't say that little truck.

Do me favor. Don't say look at that little thing where nobody can see what we're looking at, please. Damn, Freddie? It ain't big, but it's cute, T.J. But no, I think that, for me personally right now, maybe down the road, way down the road or something, I can't say it'll never happen again,

but you never know the sport throws curve balls at times. You never know people end up where you don't expect a lot of times. So you got the news about Joey. Where did the Brad opportunity come from? Within like an hour. No, I mean, I brought it up in the meeting. I'm like, well, if this is what you want, you know, why don't we to switch now? You know, why wait? Because not that it would, I still want to run for a championship, but Brad's in there, you know, and Joey's in there. And if, it just to me would make sense to make the switch. You know, if that's what you want, then go. I mean, it doesn't make sense to, you know, prolong it.

If that's what's going to happen, why not just do it? Is this the best thing that could happen to TJ Majors long-term for you? Honestly. Probably. Yeah, I don't, like, I'm not, I have no hard feelings about it. Like, really, I mean, it's, like you said, though, it's probably going to open doors that are better for me long-term. You know, not that I wasn't in a great spot already, but as far as getting our, the roof eventually, things like that.

You know, there's probably more opportunity for that now down the road. So I'm looking forward to it, you know. I don't know what I'm doing yet. No, no. Shut up. You talk about, you know, the fact that, like you said, I work with Bubba. I've known Bubba forever. Brett got to work with Elliot Clint.

Buddies of his. You were at Dale, obviously, now T.J. and Coleman. But in the same aspect, I mean, you and Brad are good friends, you know, so it's, like you said, it's almost the same thing where now you're getting to work with one of your good friends again. Yeah, there was, I think me and Brad eventually would have worked with each other again at some point. It just never worked out timeline-wise for what he had going and what I had going. It was always off by a year. And this kind of lined everything up for an opportunity like that as well.

So it's kind of, I've been excited about it. Whenever we got the word that we could switch, because it wasn't just, well, let's switch now. Everyone kind of had to sign off on it. It had to be, you know, everyone had to be okay with it. otherwise it, you know, would make sense to do it. So once we got the okay, I think, I mean, I was excited. And it was, because I've worked with Brad before. And, you know, there was an opportunity, but I couldn't go with Brad,

but, you know, when he left to, I couldn't leave Del Jr. Then to work with him. But I've worked with Brad here. I mean, we lived right next to each other for a year. So it was really, it's a very logical switch, in my opinion. I mean, Coleman and Brad, Coleman and Joey. have that connection and me and Brad have that connection. So it just makes sense across the board. I mean, I don't, I think everyone, I think everyone's going to end up in a better spot.

So when you were hearing the news, because I've been, I've been there, right? I mean, RCR fired me on a Tuesday and Clint Boyer hired me on that Friday, right? So I know what you're, I know what it's kind of like, but when you're sitting there and they're telling you, you're not coming back to the 22 in 2022, is your heart sunk or is your brain already like, oh, I need to talk to Brad because you knew who your savior was. You know, I don't even know. Honestly, man, it's so weird

because I was really, and I told Joey a lot, I mean, I was very adamant that I was excited for them guys because I know that connection, you know, and I think probably inside I was thinking myself, like, okay, now I have a chance to achieve that as well. You know, that's why the switch made sense to me, and I was actually thinking about it then, but it made it a lot easier to be happy for them guys.

You know, it wasn't like, okay, I'm not going to walk out of here and be like, what am I going to do now? It was, you know, opportunity. Okay, well, maybe I'll be able to get back with Brad this weekend and have fun. You know, not that I wasn't having fun, but it's just different. It's different. It's different. So I think it was, it's hard to say I was excited at the same time because, I mean, I was, you know, it was, I mean, I like working with Joey.

Joey, we had a, it's fun to work with Joey. But going and working with your friend, it just, it was, it was exciting. Like I left and, you know, knew that I was going to have that opportunity this weekend, you know, a couple, a day later or whatever, I was going to have that opportunity. So, I don't know, it was good. Like, I can't say that I was, like, devastated. It's been three or four seasons since Lugano's only one, one race. And you guys right now, obviously there's more opportunity for him to win more as a year goes on.

But do you think that weighed in on the decision at all, all or do you think this was all like based on his relationship with coleman um both it's there's a there's a trend i mean i and i'm i'm one of the numbers but uh you know i think it's both i think it's hard to pass up the opportunity when it's there like that and honestly like you said it's a blessing it's the timing is perfect for me like it couldn't have been better you know because if we waited a year like i have another year on my contract if we waited another year who knows what i will wait opportunities would have been available then. You don't know.

Maybe there would have been something better, but I find that hard to believe right now. Brad seems happy about it. We saw an interview with Pocker this morning that Brad said he's got the number one spotter in the business, so this is now the second interview that he's done drunk that we know about. The first one was epic. The only thing that I want to get out of this conversation is, can we now admit that you wipe me out at Daytona Road Course last year? You've been waiting for that. A year later.

I will still say that he was there. That's all I'll say. Honestly, I think the thing I'm most excited about is to hear how many people say you don't suck. Yeah, that's amazing how many messages I've gotten that. I did a poll. I know, I voted. You know what I voted? Me too. I said yes, but not as much.

Yeah, I voted myself. So it's amazing that how you're. rank changes with the fans strictly by what car you're working with. Absolutely. Absolutely. Trust me, I'm well aware. On that topic, I can't tell you how many people came up to me at the BC 39 saying that you no longer suck and they love you and they hate Brett. So I think that this is a win- well that's just dumbass over here said the BC39 was going away last week. That seems logical. So are you willing to admit you're wrong? Is it not going away? I didn't say it was going away next year. Roger was there talking about how great it was and how he waits to build up.

I just don't see Rogers are a dirt guy, so that's great. I'm a dirt guy. He was very involved in the VC-39. I mean, he came up to us and Kyle in Victory Lane and talked about how great the race was and loved Chloe. So you guys won with Kyle Larson? We did. Wow. We saw the week.

I worked really hard on the wrenches, guys. Yeah, you were killing it. I was on it with tire set up. Did you get a shout out in Victory Lane yet? Sure subject. I could only imagine the mess she left in Victory Lane. I know. Did you see the picture?

Somebody took the picture of Victor Lane and, like, photoshopped all kind of rappers and sh**ry. And then somebody else said, like, look how dirty it is. Casey, I've got to tell you this. I text Freddie this week. So my sister always listens to our podcast, but she stays a few episodes behind. So she comes rolling into the kitchen.

She looks at me and she goes, I'll kiss your ass if Casey left that roll on that airplane clean. Oh, wow. Well, I should have taken a picture of the hotel and the toter and everywhere. I was this weekend. Congratulations on one of that race. That's awesome.

Thank you. I appreciate it. And yes, so many people came up to me saying how much you suck. So I'm just glad that we're all on the same page. TJ, congratulations on getting fired and hired. And Brad's comments certainly are. I don't know what you're talking about. They're certainly pointing to the direction that he intends for you.

you to stay with him for down the road. So I'm glad to know you're going to be okay, man. This is a crazy sport. We talk about it all the time. You never know when things are going to happen. And it's good to know you're going to be okay, man. And it's going to even be better for you personally. I know it will because I know how much you and Brad, how your relationship is,

and you get to go back to kind of what you have when you spot it for Dale Jr. Yeah. I mean, I don't know. Obviously, I can't speak on next year yet, but it's – I'm excited. I'm excited for the rest of this year. And, you know, it's fun to pick up. And actually still have a shot of running for a championship right now. You know what I mean?

Like we have way more to accomplish this year still and the opportunity to do it. The race is on Brad and T.J. versus Coleman and Joy, who can win first. I am not. I'm promoting it. I am promoting it. Wait until you see them race each other this week. I think it's going to be exciting. I almost posted this on Wednesday. So everybody having a good Wednesday?

Oh, you should have. I'd be funny. Good deal. All right. Well, on to Michigan. What did you guys think? I want to know, Freddie. How was your weekend? Why? It was fine. You didn't go to Gateway. I did not go to Gateway. Kid that did your truck did a decent job.

Yeah, he did good. I thought. You know, they were fast and just Krause cannot catch a break this year. He's running fifth with like, I don't know, 20, 30 to go, and they got a loose wheel and have to come in. He loses two laps. You know, he's had speed and just that truck. something like beginning of year, it wouldn't run. Then we had problems, and Derek showed up, and he wanted to run into shit. I texted him the other day.

He was doing an interview with Regan during the Red Flag, and I text him. And I quote, I said, yeah, Regan, I wish they'd just throw green, go back green now because I drive it like, I can't see anything anyways. He was laughing. But, yeah, they did good. Did you all watch truck race? Yeah, we did watch truck race. Yeah, it was okay.

and then when the power went out, I was like, oh, man. What made me come here? It's almost like every race I do this non-companion, which I haven't really done many, but with no Xfinity on Saturday, it makes it possible to do these. You can do Xfinity next year now. Yeah, I know. I know, probably.

So every time I go to one of these, something happens. Like, it was supposed to rain in Knoxville. Luckily, it didn't, but I, I was freaking out about the rain. And that's a long drive from Knoxville to Atlanta. Yeah. But this was only seven hours, I think. So I could have done this on Saturday if we ran.

But then the damn power goes out. So, and it wasn't even that bad. But I think we only threw the yellow because I think they lost timing and scoring. And they had to throw the yellow when they lost that. So, but it was fun to get Haley, her first top 10, get her a good race in. and she was really very aggressive. We pushed her a lot more of that race, and I saw her grow a lot.

Like, she can do it. You know what I mean? Like, she has that, she has another level there. Like, she's been very timid this year, trying to run all the laps, and she's done a great job at that. We haven't really been in any wrecks, really,

just when people, you know, wreck in front of her or something. But she's doing really good, and I thought she had a very good learning race and didn't take anything from anybody. If somebody went in there and got into her, she bumped him back up the track. and went back by him and she did a very good job yeah i mean truck race

thoughts from truck race for cheldon creed just pretty much put a stomping on everybody truck racing's hard we'll talk about that more about that truck race later uh dinger hell of a week for the dinger oh yeah two weeks yeah really cup race uh six days later goes out and wins an exfinity race so them guys are on it right now i sent a tweet out this morning they've won 11 of the last 73 Xfinity Series races. That's 15% of the races they've been in. They won one out of seven cup races they've been in. That's like a 14% win percentage.

For a new team to be doing what colleague racing is doing, and obviously I'm invested in them. Freddy's invested in them. But it's pretty damn impressive to see what they're doing to be so new around here. But you're kind of, that's kind of a skewed stat, though, because you're running your strong races. Still, a win's a win. I'm just saying, yeah.

I mean, it's impressive, though, for that organization to be competitive at that level. You know, AJ, AJ, they got the right guy there for the job when they run them races. That's my biggest thing that I take away from this is, I mean, could you imagine, like, what is it, three or four years ago, somebody wrote AJ Ombanager off like he's done. Somebody wrote Casey Kane off. I'm happy for him. AJ's out there now winning races, winning cup races. What is he got, three or four wins in Exfinity this year? Yeah, six total in two years.

Casey out the other night breaks a damn track record, no world outlaw car. He's running top 10 every night. He's back full time with the outlaws. And I got a question with this, with Casey. He gets in his own cars and runs, you know, runs okay. He gets in this other car and the dude's on fire. Like in Knoxville, he was super fast. This week.

They give Brett. They give Braddle the good stuff over there. Casey Kane. He better talk to somebody. No kidding. But no, but it's just crazy to me. Yeah, it's just crazy to me that like somebody, you know, JTG, namely, just kind of rode off AJ Almendinger a few years ago to get, you know,

some younger guys maybe a little bit cheaper. And here he is now. He just jumps in somebody else's stuff. And it's obviously good equipment. He goes out, wins a cup race again. He's winning multiple races at year in the XFaddy series. Probably top three championship favorite now in the XVinity series. So it's just good for him.

I'm happy to see that because it's great dude. I got to work with him last year and a lot of fun to be around. And I just wish continued success for those guys. I told Chris this morning on the phone he called me at 8 o'clock. And we were going through stuff. And I was like, man, hiring A.J. Amadinger was the best thing you've ever done for this company. Like you were already doing well, but this guy elevates your program. And as we talked about for next year stuff that we're getting ready for, it's like, man, if we put Justin Haley out there in a cup race and he runs 25th, is it the car?

Is it the driver? If we put A.J. out there and we run 25th at some of these places, we know it's the car. We know we've got to get better. So when you look at how do you evaluate your equipment? I mean, we're talking about it going into the last few shows with Ross Chastain and Daniel Sauras being teammates last year. There's not an A guy there on that roster to evaluate your equipment. So when you start struggling, you're not going to know which department it necessarily falls on.

Is it the car department or the driver department? So I think Chris going out, and look, when he made the hire, man, I didn't know, I wasn't, I wasn't all about it. And I told AJ this. We had some beers one night at a shoe show, and we basically had to come to Jesus meeting about our past because we didn't have a great past. I mean, he damn near killed Ellie to Pocono when he wrecked him. He didn't mean to wreck him.

But nonetheless, damn there, he was a terrible teammate. And we sat there and we talked about it. Was he blocked on Twitter? Remember? He did. But AJ goes through and he starts telling me his story about why he was a shittie teammate. And I'm sitting there thinking, man, this is like we're having a Dell Jr. Download moment right here where we're both telling each other our stories and we're getting over some things, issues that we had in the past.

And now, honestly, like Freddie said, good dude to work with. easy as heck to spot for, and he's winning races. So it's awesome for him in that organization. The fun factor is way up there. And that's big. And a lot of people don't realize, like, AJ was running some part-time stuff, but he was there all the time. You know what I mean? Like working to make their program better, working with Justin, working with, you know, at the time, Ross. You know, he was, even though he was racing here and there, you know, what, five, six times a year, he was there every week, you know, trying to help make the program better behind the scenes. He's an amazing teammate. He's amazing. He's literally the company.

guy. The two most important people at Collegraising are Chris Rice and AJ Amundinger. As far as being company guys. I can't believe you didn't say yourself. Right now. Third. This makes me wonder about a guy like Scott Speed. Like, I feel like when Scott got booted out, he was actually just starting to turn the corner. Right. And, you know, I feel like he was actually starting to trend in the direction. Like, he was figuring it out. This is what scares me about Kyle Larson is these guys don't turn into awesome race car drivers. in my opinion, for the most part, until they're in their 30s. Kyle Larson is young and obviously growing older,

but this guy's already on fire, and he's not even there yet. Yeah, I mean, was he running tonight? Where is he win tonight? I mean, he's in the late model one. He might as, I mean, is he going to run for him with a one in a couple weeks or something? I think they were talking about IndyCar, ND 500, right? Rogers said he was scouting, scouting Indy 500 drivers for next year at the BC race. I promise you, Kyle Larson and Indy 500 drivers.

500 would be fun. Yeah. Anything else have been indie last weekend? Indy? Oh, yeah. You guys, another congratulations is an order. It's a big week.

T.J. and Freddie, you went a whole week without getting called to the NASCAR hauler because of this podcast. Cut this out. You make it sound like just me and T.J. got called to the hauler. Coming from the guy that if I start talking, kick me, the guy that never shut up. Yeah. If I start talking, you hit me. I'm like, well, okay.

I'm like, just ahead, Brett, whatever you need. Well, first of all, I didn't know. they were being serious when they called us to the hauler, and you both know that. So tell us a little bit about that part. What part? When you found out that there was a meeting, what was your... Well, obviously, we're very opinionated on this show. Well, two of us are.

We're very candid on this show. Two of us are. We like to have fun on this show. All four of us do. Five of us, Count Jason. Six, Count, Count, Alex. But so when I got this email that we were required to come to the NASCAR hauler for a meeting, and at the time that that meeting was being scheduled,

I thought it was like literally they listened to a segment on the show and they found some humor in it. Well, let me tell you something. They didn't think it was funny. He texts me. He's like, are they serious? I said, yeah, yeah, they're pretty serious. And I had already replied thinking they were kidding. So that probably made it worse.

And I don't think they weren't, I mean, they were probably a little angry. But I think it was just a good meeting for us to all sit down and, kind of hash out both sides of they think we're idiots and we are we questioned some of the stuff they do mainly just you guys i'm sorry they think me and breeder idiots yeah thank you uh now you don't they know tj's one um but you know and and and it a lot of good came from listen we talked about this on our show last week a little bit and kind of went back and we we didn't want to go into too much detail about it uh and so we cut it out last week that's what we're going to talk about this week. We didn't want to, we had heard that TJ was going to have a meeting that next day,

so we didn't want to have that play into it at all. So we wanted to make sure that we just cut it out and we could talk about this week now that we know that it had nothing to do with TJ's meeting. But yeah, I thought a lot of good came out of it. I have, we've got communications contacts now to where we can, we can present both sides of the argument like before. And I think that's all they really wanted. You know, they wanted the opportunity for us to just knock a on here and bash them and them not have an opportunity to respond. So last week, you guys heard me reference in the spot on, spot off section multiple times about this is what NASCAR said. And this is where, you know, this is where they were at on this. So, and that was just for me

texting directly back and forth of some of the NASCAR comms people on Sunday night. So like I said, they presented their side. We kind of presented our side. I would imagine that's probably not the last time we're going to get called in there. I think Davis was, Davis was wondering if that's maybe the first time any podcast has been invited to the principal's office. But I think a lot of good came out of it and it'll improve our show going forward. I think so too. And look, man, the irony of it is we're sitting in there having this meeting talking about our podcast and things we say on it as it relates to the NASCAR industry. And then, in my opinion, Sunday, which was a phenomenal race, by the way, the very next day,

it couldn't have been any crazier. We got safety trucks on the tractor and qualifying We got curbs blowing up. We got cars blowing up. Like it looks like we got grenades out there. We're dropping on cars. Like it just couldn't have been any crazier. So I think, you know, probably in hindsight as they go back and they debriefed to go over their races, which Kip came on here and told us they do every week. Like they had to go through that race thinking, holy cow, guys, we miss some things here, right?

But we have the freedoms, obviously, to come on here and be very candid with you guys and honest with you guys and give you our opinions. And at no point am I trying to make any of that personal as it pertains to NASCAR. or NASCAR officials or anybody that wears that bar because I know how hard all those guys work to make it to make the sport what it is. Now, there are some of things that I say about other people on this show outside of the NASCAR bar world that I do, I hope they do take it personal. But like Freddie said, I think it's a good thing.

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Oh, man. Corey LaJoy, this is a weird situation. If my facts are right, Corey was in close contact with someone last Monday, that could potentially have had COVID. And on that Monday, that person tested negative. And then on that Wednesday, the results must have been different or something. I don't know for sure what happened. But long story short, NASCAR ruled Corey ineligible because he's not vaccinated.

He didn't meet the requirement to be able to do the three-day quarantine, produce a negative test, and show up in race. And I saw a tweet yesterday from Sherry, Truex's girlfriend, and asking Bob Pocryce why he's asking drivers their vaccination status. Well, the rules vary based on if you're vaccinated or not vaccinated. If you are vaccinated, you get to race in three days. If you're not vaccinated, you have to wait a week and you have to produce a negative test. So that changes the game for all these drivers.

It puts, in my opinion, a lot of pressure on these drivers to become vaccinated, especially, man, especially these playoff drivers. because outside of Kyle Larson, I don't know that anybody can really afford to miss a race and still be able to go win a championship. As it pertains specifically to Corey, though, I guess my questions to NASCAR would be this. Could Corey produce a negative test on the day of the race? And according to Corey, and I can't speak for Corey, but according to Corey, I think he could have. Could Corey Lejoy have driven his rental car up there by himself?

himself and quarantined and went straight from his rental car in his fire suit with his helmet on to his race car with a mask on. And I think the answer to that is yes. Could Corey LaJoy have gotten into his race car and buckled in with minimal assistance from one crew guy who would also be wearing a mask? And I think the answer to that is yes. Would Corey LaJoy ride around for 400 miles by himself? Yes. When the race is over, as long as Corey LaJoy doesn't need medical assistance for anything that has happened as it pertains to the race, because again, he's already had a negative test produced. Could he then get out of the car and go back to his rental car and go home

and literally not be around anybody? And for me, the answer to all of those are yes. So I think this is a very methodical, well-thought-out plan for NASCAR. I think it screws a guy like Corey LaJoy. I mean, he had to miss a race, and it sucks, especially if he never had COVID to start with. The quarantine process are all different. You know, NASCAR can do, they can quarantine however they want because they're a privately owned company.

The way the school system is working in the state of North Carolina, that's state-owned. You know, your restaurant, your local restaurant, they can do whatever the hell they want because they're privately owned. So it's not a boat any of us want to be in, but I hated to see Corey LaJoy, I texted with him yesterday. You still negative? Yep. Like, dang, I just hate that there was an opportunity for him to be able to go do his job. If, A, he doesn't have COVID, and B, we could have done some safety measures to get. give him a chance to do that. So I am spot off for him as in this race. Yeah, I mean, it's almost

like, I don't know how, like you said, I don't know how if you're a playoff driver. And it's obviously, it's hard to say this because it's other people's bodies and you don't want to make decisions for them. But like, I don't understand how you could be a playoff driver and not get the vaccine because of this. I mean, this is, you know, it's hard because you don't, obviously, you don't know where everybody you've been with has been. I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, what do you, I mean, I don't know. I don't know what the right thing to do is. Obviously, we have to protect ourselves.

But still, if you, I don't know how if you're a playoff driver, you don't get the vaccine just to cover your ass because if you don't have it, you're out a week no matter what. It's a seven-day process for anybody that's not got it. So if you get it on a Monday, you're out to the following Monday. That's a race. And like Brett said, the only person that can afford to maybe miss one race in the playoffs is Kyle Larson.

So, you know, it's tough to tell people kind of what they have to do, but I don't know how if you're a playoff driver, you can not get the vaccine. And I saw today, I think, or yesterday, where Joey came out and said he just got it, you know, Lugano. So I don't know if this has ways in on that or not, but, you know, it's just, it's a hard spot to be in to tell people what they should do with their bodies. But, you know, I don't know how you don't get it. T.J. It's a very tough scenario. You hate that it actually comes up. it's kind of the world we live in now.

So, um, you know, I hate that Corey missed that race and, and, and, but I think NASCAR is trying to do everything they can to, uh,

to not have more missed the, you know, the, the object here is okay. To, in my opinion, it's one guy gets it, we don't want six more guys to miss.

You know what I mean? Like to get it and be out like, so, um, you know, I think they got those protocols in place to prevent. NASCAR has their protocols and the teams also have their protocols. And every team's protocols are completely different.

And look, man, I look at these things, these restaurants. And hey, I'm vaccinated, by the way. So I'm going to tell you this as a vaccinated person. I look at these restaurants and they go, you've got to be vaccinated to come in here. Well, I'm not going in there because can you assure me that I'm not going to sit by a thief? Can you assure me that there's nobody in the restaurant with a weapon? Can you assure me that nobody has hepatitis that's in your kitchen cooking? Can you assure me the person right beside him he doesn't have a lot of the person.

the normal flu. You can't do those things. So why are you literally pinpointing people that aren't vaccinated that are making a personal choice with their body can't come into your restaurant? So like, even though I made the personal choice to be vaccinated, I also am an American first and I believe we should have the right to do what we want to do with their body. And I don't come after people, you know, who are making that, that assumption. Now, look, I've got friends that work in hospitals. And when they have people come in with COVID that are sick and need care that aren't vaccinated, some of those health care workers that I know are frustrated because they're like, man, if you got vaccinated, a solid chance you wouldn't be in this hospital.

You know, so, so like it's a strain on us as a country right now. Obviously, it's back raging, you know, throughout the country. NASCAR changed their complete protocols last week on what drivers can and cannot do while at the track, which I am a huge fan of. Like, if I were a sponsor right now and I had a playoff driver, I would not want my playoff driver around anybody but his mama and his daddy and his wife. or his whatever. Don't come, don't be around anybody.

And I said this on the show a few weeks ago when we saw Larson signing autographs at a dirt track. I was like, man, that's chancy. That's risky because there's a lot of people of COVID right now. I promise you there's people of COVID that don't know they have it. I mean, our friend, Tony Herschman, he did not know he had COVID. He had to take a test, and he failed a test. And then he fell to another test.

And Tony, I mean, to text me and Freddie both. He was like, man, I feel great. But he had COVID. He was out running that day. He's been cut. as long. He's still, I talked to him yesterday. He's fine, but JGR put in mandatory testing for everybody that's not vaccinated. And Tony just so, he couldn't believe it. He said, I think he took three or four

tests. He said, I feel there's, I don't have a symptom. I just asymptomatic. He says, did that one time of pregnancy tests just kept buying them. Still positive. You know, it's just, you know, it's just. But I mean, it's, it's a good measure though, because who's to say he wasn't going to come to the roof and knock six of us out this next week. But it's still at the same time, you know, know what's he supposed to do if he if he feels fine why would he ever take a test if he can test it he's going to show up at a racetrack yeah that's what i'm saying it's good to have protocols and measures like that because the the effect that could have had could have really put people in a tough

spot yeah that leads into the next topic spot on spot off naskar should test all drivers for covid two days before every race freddie uh you know i don't know it's uh i would say i don't know if i can go spot on or spot off. You know, you look at other sports. The NFL has kind of adopted a hybrid plan where, you know, vaccinated players get tested every two weeks, unvaccinated players get tested every day. Wow.

So, you know, that's kind of their model. You know, that's how their model goes. I mean, you can find $50,000 if you miss a test. Wow. So, you know, that's how the NFL does it. They're obviously probably the most strict. But there's a lot of steak, man. Yeah, well, at the same time, you know, I mean, you're obviously in close contact with a lot of people playing football.

MLB has weekly testing for their players. We see probably once a week we see somebody a big name in the sport. It's in the COVID protocol for a week. It's just, you know, it's a slippery slope. You know, it's obviously you want to, I think NASCAR's biggest thing is they put a lot of it on us, the people in the sport, the drivers, the teams to almost police themselves and be honest. And if you don't feel right, make sure you get a test. And, you know, if you're positive, let everybody know you're positive, let people that you've been around know you're positive.

And then you've got to kind of just trickle down that contact tracing. I don't know. I don't know, you know, obviously it's a hard thing to say if they should test every week. I think that what we've had going on, I think we've, you know, the guys that have not felt good and tested. We saw it last year a couple drivers. We saw this year already now, Corey. you know, the contract, contact tracing stuff.

It's hard to say if they should do it every week. You know, if the driver, you know, football, the guy, you can, you can lose your wide receiver and not destroy your chances of winning a game or winning a playoff or whatever. You take the driver out of the car and it's going to be, it's not going to work out well. And the problem is not, I mean, are you talking about just the drivers here? Are you just testing the drivers? Are we testing the whole sport? because now, you know, where do you draw the line?

I'm going to tell you where you draw the line. If they're vaccinated or not vaccinated, based on where everything else is going. I can live in the middle here and say NASCAR's done everything they can to turn the lights back on for us to keep us all as safe as we can. I feel like the teams that I work with at the racetracker doing everything they can to keep us as safe as we can. I'm like Freddie, man. I mean, it sounds like a great idea right, until you open Pandora's Box and I'll hell break. loose. TJ, what do you think?

Yeah, I think there's, it's pretty easy to play both sides of this. But I think NASCAR, we gave them a lot of props last year for getting us back racing before anybody else was really back playing anything. And we went back and we had, as far as I'm concerned, we didn't have, we didn't take any steps back once we went back. Like there was no, they did everything right from the beginning to get us back and we finished our entire season with literally no hiccups or anything. So, you know, it's hard to, it's hard to say, you know, NASCAR is not making the right calls here to keep everybody back

racing and, you know, not have a mass deal where we have numerous people out, you know, and really feel the effects of that. So it's hard to, it's hard to say that, you know, they're not making the right calls on this thing. There might be some more efficient ways we can explore but hopefully um hopefully this wave kind of starts dying down again we kind of showed before we could it took a while but we got over the last one and we were everything was way down everything was you know getting almost normal you know and then this kind of started again so I think um you know I think they got some good procedures in place and it you know it's hard for me not to you know kind of go with their stuff because they kept us racing last year I think I think the biggest

thing you look at here is, you know, like you said, the protocols that we've had in place, and a lot of it is team-based, not so much, you know, obviously NASCAR has their protocols, teams have their protocols, and yeah, we, you know, we all knew people last year that had COVID and they were out or, you know, a couple guys here and there. I mean, you look at football games are getting canceled because the whole team had COVID, or, you know, baseball teams are having to take a week off, forfeit games because, you know, the whole team got COVID. I don't think we ever had a situation last year, except for maybe like a couple pit crews, you know, that would be like, all right, two or three guys in a pit crew are out this week because of it. But we never had a

situation like where holy shit, the whole 23 teams out this week. We know, they're just not going to be able to race because of, so obviously whatever protocols we have in place are working. You know, obviously you can lose people here and there. But, you know, I think everybody's doing a great job. And I think NASCAR protocol and the team protocols are working. Yeah. I mean, if you think about it, look at, Brett, you probably know all the sponsors. who've had to cancel appearances and activation at the track. Like, we all know it's for the good of the sport because we want to keep going. For sure.

I mean, and I don't want to be a data guy, data guy. I know y'all like to argue on data. But if you go and you actually research where we're at, like we're usually a month behind India and the United Kingdom. And like the way they had spikes, they went crazy for four to five weeks and they just completely fell off. Hopefully this is a four to five week run for us and not us as a sport, us as a country. and the COVID cases go down, and we can go back to what TJ said, where we were three, four weeks ago.

We were almost back to normal, it felt like. So, man, thoughts and prayers to people battling COVID, and hopefully we can all stay safe. Oh, my gosh. I just saw this tweet thing pop up, and it's Adam Schefter. He says, Josh Allen has been placed on the Reserve COVID-19 list,

and that I read the beginning of it. It says Jacksonville Jaguars have placed defensive Van House of Illinois to make Josh Allen. I'm like, Oh. Resin was used as the traction compound on Michigan surface instead of PJ1. Spot on, spot off, T.J. I didn't really see, I mean, I'm, I don't ever like having to apply stuff to the tracks,

but I didn't, I thought it was okay. So it's hard. Made, there was multiple grooves. You could use the edge of it. I don't know if there's really any need to go higher. But, I mean, I thought it did it. Yeah, I spot on. I think this stuff is two for two now.

You know, for whatever reason, I don't know what the difference is. God bless you again. Oh, she's got. Oh, everybody. But this stuff's two for two in my mind. I thought it worked really well in Nashville. I wasn't sure if that was only going to be like a concrete surface deal. But this obviously, I think this worked, this is probably one of the racier tracks

that we have seen at Michigan. in many years. But the biggest takeaway for me is the difference between this resin and the PJ1 is we can use the resin and it adds lanes to the racetrack and makes the racing better. That's what I've seen the two times we've used it. A lot of times the PJ1, like once we're running one lane, one lane, somebody moves up or another couple guys move up and get that PJ1 to where it's got some heat in and activated and then you have to run on the PJ1.

Like it just makes that lane, it just takes whatever lane was the preferred lane and moves it to the bottom of the PJ1 lane. And I don't see the same reaction with the resin. I feel like the resin, some guys can use it. Other guys can't. Obviously, we could feel a balance change in our car with it. You know, it was tighter in the resin, looser off, you know, out of it, obviously. But, you know, it's just some guys work better up there. Some guys work better on the bottom.

But it didn't, the PJ1, I feel like, just takes a dominant lane and moves it to wherever the PJ1's at. and I don't see the same reaction with the resin. I think Michigan was the best it's been since the repave. We have more lanes available to run on than we have for a lot of years. The Xfinity race was freaking awesome. The Cup race, look, that package isn't awesome once they get spread out. It's awesome on restarts. It's awesome when they're two and three wide.

But once they get kind of in that single file deal, man, it's just extremely hard to pass. I think the track is a hell of a lot better than it's been. I think it's going in the right direction. And for the first time and a long time, I was excited to spot a race at Michigan, and I was excited to watch races at Michigan. And, I mean, I would have had fun spotting on Saturday. Sunday would have been fun doing restarts.

But the track, the good news is when the track shows you, the potential it shows you on Saturday, it puts more pressure on Goodyear to make a better tire for Sunday. It puts more pressure on the package to be better. That's obviously on, you know, the powers that, be in the teams that are building these things. But now the track is at least back showing potential because it wasn't for years.

And the biggest thing I noticed, and I don't know which way you went out of the racetrack, TJ, but you talk about the good years, you know, making a better tire. We drove it, did you drive around turn one? Driving around turn one on the apron, so we park in the infield and we drive out on the racetrack and use the apron to get to the back stretch to cross over and get out of there. The one thing I took away from doing that was leaving. I did not see a marble. that like, you know, normally you would see marbles built up against the wall from tire wear and whatnot.

It's just one thing that always stands out to me when we get out on the racetrack now. You don't see that anymore. I felt like there was, the track was clean. I mean, obviously up by the very wall where nobody was running, it was a little bit dirty, but it still wasn't the rubber buildup, the marbles that we used to see in years past. So I feel like now, like Brett said, now we got the race, you know, the tracks are a little bit racier, we're in better position. We need to have a tire that wears out more because we saw yesterday.

There was no falloff, really. Guys were staying out all day, you know, trying stuff. But we just need to get a tire that wears out, I feel like. LaTart said it in the booth. You know, once they pitted with that last fuel window, he said, I don't expect to see these guys pit again. And the reason why they don't is because the tires don't wear out. Simple math.

It was just crazy to me to why, you know, I mean, I feel like you used to go back out there after the race is over, and the track, just outside the preferred lane was just, we call them marbles, obviously these little balls of rubber everywhere. and there was nothing the other yesterday. It was just completely cleaned off. Contact between Brad Kislowski and Austin Dillon after crossing the finish line for stage two sends Dylan into the wall and out of the race.

T.J. This one's for you. T.J. You suck. I mean, what the Lord. First day on the job. I think, I mean, I spot off. Austin had a really good car. And I thought he had been mixing it up up there in the front. He was up there in the front racing with them guys in the top three.

every time I looked up there he was dicing it up so I hate it for him and you know to have a he needs to win too so you know that was probably a really good shot so spot off for that I think it was just bad timing I don't think you know there's two sides of it what caused the wreck I mean I watched the wreck and to me watching it live I was like man Brad hooked him but then it's like Austin maybe he was trying to come up but at the end of the day if if the stage was over why are they even all over each other like I mean I think they're I think we're racing back for the point and then you're just you know you're still i don't know i think you're just you're so zoned in right there for a quick second it only takes at that point if you move a foot you're they're on each other

i mean we were william byron and us i don't know if you saw it a couple times he ran us with the grass and i mean we were down that we were down there dust was flying and to pit road still down there and he's right against us like we're stuck like it was almost that was almost too aggressive in my opinion um we had just gotten the start of the start of time for william byron then it would have been fine. Obviously. I was nervous. I was nervous.

I was nervous in them situations. I'm like, okay, I mean, this is a little, like, we're going to have to move up at some point, you know. And I think, I think Austin just, I don't know if he thought it was clear or he just assumed that, you know, Brad wasn't right there or something. Just kind of a bat. I don't want to say it's a racing deal because Brad didn't, Brad feels terrible about it. I know he does.

and I don't think anybody wants to see that type of wreck happen right there. And I don't, it's not like Brad came down and just straight up hooked him. You know, they're racing hard and you have a misjudge it by six inches at that point. Someone's hooked. Yeah. It looked to me like, you know, they're obviously racing and you're coming to the end of the stage and they cross the line and the three's on the bottom. And I just think that he kind of, I don't want to say let his guard down,

But just kind of, okay, stage is over, I'm good. Just kind of cut it, because it gets pretty rough after the start, finish line down there on the apron. And I think he just kind of assumed that I were through the line. Brad really has no reason to be on my quarter. So I'm just, you know, even we're there, we're just going to come back up now. It was like right after it. Like right there. And it was just, you know, bad timing.

I didn't understand. I saw Brad's tweet and it made it seem like he thought there was another lap left maybe. So I didn't understand that. But, yeah, it just, you know, I don't think it was anything malicious on Brad's part. I think it was just... And I think Austin said something similar in his interview, too. I think he said he wasn't really...

I think he just didn't expect Brad to be there. You know, like at that point, you know, I felt like in his mind, he just felt like, all right, I passed him. You know, he was obviously 90% around. I'll tell you another 100 yards in the throttle. He would have been biased anyway. That thing was so fast. Yeah, I mean, that was the biggest thing I took away from it.

He could run the bottom like nobody else could. Oh, and the straightaway, too, just gone. Oh, the two of those two RC Hart cars, they were handling down the straightways. Richard Childress said, I'm an old man, but I'd kick his ass. Still got it. R.C. was not playing around. Uh-oh. He didn't take his watch off, did he?

He said he might. Hold my watch. Hold my watch. And he beat the piss out of Kyle Bush that time. He said that. What happened to start that? Was that at Michigan, too? No, it was like...

Darlington? No, it was Kansas or just something like that. It was Kansas. No, no, no, that was Darling. That was, was that one he wrecked Harvick at Darlington? On Pitt Road. On pit road? Remember, Harvard got out?

I don't know if, that definitely was part of it. That might not have been the final straw, but I remember that was a year. Remember that was a year? Yeah. Harvard got out and Kyle pushed the car and it fired itself up and drove into the wall. That was at Darlington for sure. That was Darlington, but that wasn't where. That's not where Richard took his watch off.

It was a day race. I think it was Chicago or Kansas. You see Richard, and Richard out on a cowboy hat, too. He's looking tough this weekend. If you see him walking towards you with no watch on. You're in trouble. You better get out of Dodge. It's like Del Eman trying to shake your ham.

You're in trouble. All right, this is a long one. Kyle Larson says, tell William, I'm not going to try to pass him for the lead with a faster Denny Hamlin closing in, and Hamlin was unable to pass the 200 cars before the rain caution. Got it? Spot on, spot off. Brett. Well, I'm going to jump ahead a little bit on this one.

I'm spot off for the way those two guys handled everything. everything. They screwed up the end of the race. They're sitting here with 200 guys, second, third, with another Chevrolet fourth, who wasn't really a loyal Chevrolet guy on that particular day. He was driving the one car. And I just kept watching them screw up runs that they could have been able to get at the leader. And I could not understand for the life of me why they didn't get it together. So this whole, I mean, if you're going to help each other, help each other. And I mean, I mean, they They played it over the TV when Kyle said, hey, tell him I'm not going to pass him. I'm just back here riding.

So this you're- It's like we watched three and a half. You're jumping ahead to something that they weren't talking about. Yeah, this is way different. Watching this whole race was like three hours of four play. We just never got the climax. That's what essentially this race was ready. So what they're obviously talking about was the fact that, I think we all know this,

you want to, when you go to Michigan, especially with this package now, race is almost similar to a truck package. You do not want to be side by side at any point. Like if you guys get side by side in front of somebody, it's almost like a push-to-pass button. That's what Shane Huffman called it back in the day when we were in truck racing. It's like a push-to-pass button for the guy in third. Like he's going to get a massive run on the two of you

and probably be able to go around both he is. So that's what they're talking about here. Larson was just with Byron leading and Denny closing, they're not going to race each other and give Danny the opportunity to pass them, which I think is smart on their part. I wish Danny would have got around him and won a race for a change. But, you know, it's just I think that that's how you have to play the game there. You know, like, I'm sure he was not committed to running behind him for the rest of the race like that.

They interviewed the crew chiefs, and the crew chief, one crew chief said, last lap, anything goes. The other crew chief said, with a few laps to go, anything goes. And I'm like, oh, what are you guys got? One of these confused here. You're not on the same page. There was just a lot going on leading up to the end of the race. It's just crazy. But, I mean, Fred is absolutely right.

Look, we live in Michigan right now takes us back with this particular rule package. It takes us back to the days of the good old shotgun. And some of you young folks, like Jason, might not know what the shotgun is. But Hendrik guys should have been able to do that to win the race, and they didn't pull it off. But that's exactly what they were trying to prevent yesterday

when William was first and Larson was second. He was basically saying Denny and I are not going to shotgun. Do you mean slingshot? Slingshot. Shotguns. I was thinking about shotgun and beers. I mean, we were shotgun of beers. Sorry.

I was thinking about shotgun and beer. A little off there. Shaggand bake. Shaggin bake. Hoister deck. But I mean, like, TJ, this is, I mean, you obviously, this is something that you would cook up. You know, like we're not going to race each other. That's that mean.

Oh. You know, we're going to work together until we don't have to. Yeah, I think it ultimately costs them the race. To me, well, that was a restart. Yeah. Yeah, to me, they lost that deal by not splitting on the front row. If you both take the front row, more than likely one of you is going to win, I think. When you single out, you're leaving that door open, and that door got kicked down.

It got kicked storm down. Ryan Blaney said, thank you. For my guy who was picking from fourth. Yes. Well, the problem was not so much that they didn't pick the front row and help each other. They all hurt each other. You know, the 11 got to run on the 5. to five runs the 11 way up the hill.

So then the 24 is moving up the racetrack to try and block the five. But that's what's going to happen, though. And Blaney just goes driving by all of them. Like, hey, guys, thanks. Appreciate it. Denny Hamlin is not. Yeah, he's not going to work with. He's trying to win the race.

Yes, he's going to, and that's always like that, which is great. I don't, I mean, that's fine. But you got to remember, and, you know, I think Kyle, Kyle Bush is a very smart race car driver. He knew, no, he'd be, I mean, Kyle's smart. he knows what he's doing out there. Everybody knows that. And when Kyle lines up behind Blaney,

he knows going three wide and on the bottom right there, he's going to end up seventh because they're going to pin him down there. He knows the best shot he's got is pushing Blaney through and then seeing where he ends up to build a run, you know. He might end up third, might not up second, who knows. But when you've got a guy like Danny behind you, as soon as Danny cracks a quarter panel of the second guy in line,

they're done, in my opinion. Like that's your help. It's gone. I think you still, I think Denny's mindset is he's got to split. He just saw what happened. He's going to split them up. So he's going to try to do everything he can to get to, and we always talk about it on here, you've got to, this package with these cars,

you have to protect your right rear quarter. So that's what, I mean. This tracks way too wide to be thinking you can go down there and protect all them lanes because you can't. Yeah. It was interesting. I'm telling you right now, though, the shotgun. Slingshot.

Slingshot. They screwed that up. They should have backed up to each other. I'm watching this race. I'm like, there's no way Blaine he's going to win this race. And he freaking won the race. What a little jerk. Remember when I said Josh?

I was like, aw, because he's a Patriots fan. Yeah, that's karma. Cam Newton. Out. COVID. Five days due to COVID protocols. It's all right. He's the backup.

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out and there was really no harm coming there was he was at the back of the pack there wasn't anybody behind him or at least not many behind him and he was down on the apron he spun slid up the racetrack a little bit nobody coming got back on the apron, got rolling before we were probably ever through turn one and two. So, yeah, there's no reason to put the caution out. This is what we want. If you stop throwing the yellow for these guys intentionally spinning themselves out,

they'll stop intentionally spinning themselves out. So, you know, I thought that that's what should have happened there, and I'm glad it didn't affect the end of the race. T.J. I mean, he was rolling. I mean, he'd been sitting there. He would have eventually lost a lap. I mean, if he stayed there any longer,

the yellow was going to come out, and they would have went by him. He was going to lose a lap regardless. regardless at that point. If he didn't get the caution right when he started spinning, you're done. Like, anyway. So spot on for keeping, you know, the race green and for him getting off the racing surface as well. So you're saying that Tyler Reddick wrecked on purpose? I didn't see it. He didn't wreck. He just spun out. You're saying he spun out on purpose. That's the way it appeared. Did you see it? I didn't see it. When they showed him on TV spinning out,

there were cars coming by him on the outside running. and look like 185 miles an hour while he was reckoned. That was a little scary to watch, regardless of whether he spun out on purpose or not. But again, we have the data. If he spun out on purpose, we have the ability to make that call. I was surprised they didn't throw the yellow, just from what I saw on TV,

but again, I didn't see it live like you did. You guys did. But again, you know, if what's going to happen this week or what's going to happen at Bristol if he does that? Well, Yale's going to come out because the track's so little. So I don't know how you can be consistent. You have to, if you're going to do anything, you've got to start policing the own purpose part,

which Bubba said you can admit to doing it. Do not. Do not admit it. I mean, we saw, regardless of, you know, Randy Tolzman and I were texting back and forth last week after Indy, and he's like, man, I don't think Briscoe meant to wreck Denny. I think Denny was just slowing down way too much to make the corner, and Briscoe had too much momentum.

And I was like, Briscoe meant to wreck Denny. I mean, 1,000 percent. Then he tweeted that he would never, or he said something, like he would never race that way. And that was right after he just race that way. Anyway, that's on a tangent. I don't think he wrecked him on purpose. I just think it happened.

I think it was okay with it. Well, he said he would never do that. They did it. I don't think he did it on purpose. I really don't. The biggest thing that I took away from this race yesterday with Reddick was, I was not impressed with his level of aggression once Austin Dillon was wrecked. You know, I saw him die for him.

four wide into three that time. That's kind of what triggered that wreck. That was not smart. That trick that triggered that wreck with Lugano. I don't know if that contributed because he had some contact there. I don't know if that's what contributed to this left rear going down or what happened to cause this left rear to go down. But now, I mean, I feel like if he could, you know, obviously there's nowhere that's 100% safe out there. But you do not also need to go dive and four wide to the bottom and trying to slide across noses. At that point, Freddie, Tyler Reddick is the last guy in the playoffs on points. At that point, he was plus 50.

Yeah. That's a whole race. Guess what he left the race? 25. Plus 25. I mean, and even if he, so he was in the top 10 at that point, even if he just kind of rides around and takes care of just, if you finish 15th, you're 40 points up.

Got a whole race. I mean, that's, you can still kind of ride around the back of Daytona and finish, you know, even if Austin goes up there and wins both stages, that gives you the opportunity. you can finish 20 spots behind him, you know, and still win, you know, advance. Now, now you're looking at if Austin goes up there and wins both stages, you've got to finish within five spots of them just because of how aggressive you, you approach the race after your main competition was out. So we know that's Tyler's M.O.

That's, you know, you're really, he's going to be on the wheel, on the fence, everywhere he goes. So that's kind of what we love about him. But what we don't know is, and maybe, obviously, somebody knows. Did somebody convey to him, which is his crew chief and spotter's job, hey man, we got a 50-point cushion in this playoff. We don't need to do anything stupid here. Because if they didn't convey that to him,

then Tyler didn't have all the ammunition. He needed to make a good decision. I mean, obviously you would hope that that was relayed. And even Tyler should probably be able to drive by the front tracks and see that the three cars destroyed and know, okay, I just got to finish. Yeah, but you know how that guys are when they put their helmet on? They lose their mind. Someone told Tyler, do not put ourselves in a bad spot before that last restart.

Yeah, but that was after the four-wide deal was before the last restart. So if that was when they first told them, then that's a mistake on their part. Yeah. Spot on, spot off. The truck series playoffs kicked off with a standalone race with no live pit stops at Gateway. TJ. I thought it went fine until the power went out. So that's a short track, though.

I think that works, I think that works there because, I don't know, I mean it, I don't know why it wouldn't work at a mile and a half, I guess, either, but short track, I mean, I thought that was a great race. You had guys, Ty Majesky took off like a rocket in the beginning. I don't know if you guys noticed that. Oh, he did. He went, like, from the high teens to, like, top five in a heartbeat. I know he's got a lot of laps there, and, but I thought it was, it reminded me of a short

track Saturday night race and I thought it was good. We didn't, it was kind of nice to not, you know, know that you weren't going to come down and potentially lose. I'll tell you, I'll tell you where I noticed the biggest thing is a guy like Ryan Truex. Ryan Truex was running inside the top 10 and he was running competitively before the wreck, probably 13th to 16th, which is better than what that truck normally runs because they probably didn't come down and lose time on their pit stops. You know what I mean?

They don't have the best pit crew. So I thought it was cool that people, you could make up ground under green and you got to keep it. So I felt like that was a really good deal for the truck series. I'm spot off. This whole thing is to save money for teams. And if you can't afford to pay for a pit crew, then you don't need to be out there. I'm more spot off because I think they got six or seven races left. They're obviously going with us to Darlington, which is going to be awesome to have the trucks back there.

And then they're with us all the way through companion racing with us off and on all. the way through Phoenix. This was the first race in the playoff. So if we're not going to have live pit stops there, don't have them anywhere. It's either for me, do it or don't do it. I mean, we talk about consistency. To me, that if we have live pit crews, it changes the outcome of this race. And either do it or don't do it. And plus, I'm a huge fan of live pit stops anyway. I think that's a big part of being in the top three series. I understand why other lower series don't do it. And I'm against it at places like the Snowball Derby. But for us, this is the big times. do it. I think

I'm spot on. I think the truck series you can see the biggest disparity like TJ said from the teams that go ahead and get Cup Series crews to pit their truck versus guys that

don't essentially. And I mean even some of the teams that do have quote unquote JGR pickers or something they're more so development guys versus the 18 guys. Now maybe when Kyle drives,

he wants his pit crew or something. But you could see the cup team shine there where there's the same kind of guys that come off pit road up front there. My biggest thing would be, and like you said, this is a cost-saving measure for the teams. And if that's what you want to do,

if you want to save money for the teams, then, yeah, you've got to leave this because I'd much rather see the best truck win the race versus the best pick crew win the race. you know, and that's just for me. It's all started too. And I'm all four. Now, I think you have to leave this in place of these non-company races just because of the fact that travel and getting these teams everywhere.

And then you're going to see the even bigger disparity between the guys that can afford to bring their cup pick crews versus the teams that are maybe the back half of the top 10 that don't bring cup pick crews. So, you know, like I said, I'm all four. Maybe we don't need companion races, non-companion. racing is in the playoffs so that we don't get put in this spot but I think if it's going to be a companion race it has to have this format and and like I said I'd rather see yes live pit stops are great but I would rather see the better trucks win the race or run good versus somebody getting the top 10 just because they have a picker that they pay more money I'll tell you what I like Brett what you like during this race I'll tell you what I don't like I just do with dbc picks and I pick

Kurt Busch he finished fourth and this kid pick Ryan Blaney won dbc check out mine you so What do you like, T.J.? I'm sorry. I like the fact that the battles happened. You know, like it was like a short track battle the whole race with the same guys a lot. A driver outside of the current top 16 will win their way into the playoffs in the regular season finale at Daytona this weekend. Spot on, spot off, T.J. Here's who must win. Let me give them to you real quick.

Matt Dibandetto, Chris Buescher, Ricky Stenhouse, Ross Chastain. Bubba Wallace, Chase Briscoe, Eric Jones, Dan Swares, Ryan Newman, Ryan Priest, Cole Custer, Corey Lerjoy. Like of the guys that are out there that are competitive, they're in must-win scenarios. Yeah, that's why we're going to Daytona with this race. This is going to be exciting. And these guys are under pressure, and the excitement is building. If we were going to a mile and a half, this race wouldn't be nearly as the pressure wouldn't be. I mean, the pressure will still be there, but.

every single one of them guys you just mentioned feels like they have a shot of doing this and that's different when you're going to another track because it's more car than driver here the car matters but a driver can make up for it at a place like Daytona and Talladega. Matt Debenadetto has never won a cup race. He's like 0 for 300, 0.270.

He's got three races left in his cup career where he could be competitive. Daytona, Talladega, Bristol. I if I'm going to take a guy outside of the guys that are locked in in a must-win scenario I'm going to go with a 21 car to get the Wood Brothers their 100th win with Maddie D this weekend of Daytona. You look at this list of guys. I'm spot on. I think one of them is going to do it. Two Daytona 500 winners, Austin Dillon, Ryan Newman.

Two previous plate race winners, Stan House, Eric Jones, Matt D, Bubba, Priest. Bubba's got a second at that they're on. busher. Pusher to pusher. These guys have all been in contention to win plate races multiple times over the last few years. So, you know, I think one of them gets it done. But my question is, for these guys, points don't matter, right? They have to win the race.

What is your strategy going into it? You would be complete idiots to be up there racing for stage points, Freddie. So that's what I, that's obviously where I would lay. you don't want to be racing. And you think you'd go back and think, man, it's going to be crazy. You know, these guys got to win. Rex can happen anywhere. I promise you that.

Oh, yeah. They can happen for first and second real easily. You go back and look at, so you would say, like, I think last year a lot of guys went into this. Like, okay, I'm going to ride around the back. I need to win them, but I'm going to ride around the back. Take care of my race car. And I'll, you know, once the Rex weed everybody out. And last year we had 14 cars wrecked out of the race.

But the wrecks all happened within 20 laps to go. We didn't have not, we had no cautions. I mean, obviously we had the comp caution, stage breaks, but we didn't have any cautions for Rex until 20 to go. So can you afford to ride around the back and have no track position whatsoever until 20 to go? No. You have to be up there.

Once you're 15 to 20 laps from that last fuel stop, you better be working on your track position. It's a narrow, you know, Daytona at night. It's hard. It's so hard. Daytona at night becomes like a real narrow Talladega

because it's got way more grip and you can be super aggressive but Daytona tends to eat up your tires track position at this race will matter I don't think you can afford I don't think somebody is going to lay around and then magically come from the back

to the front and the last little bit of the race I don't think you can do it there's too many I've been in lines of cars that are digging way faster everybody else as soon as that spotter and that car that's eighth, tenth,

in line says, hey, there's a big run and come on up top three wide. As soon as one car pulls up and blocks that line, they're done. And then you're just stuck right there in that group. I think I like the strategy, and it's probably the safer route, but you're not guaranteed to get that big wreck. You know, you're not guaranteed to get it. I mean, it's more likely going to happen at some point.

But, I mean, to me, I would personally just go race. my tail off and see where I end up. You can't be upset at that. If you're Penskee racing, who do you want to win this race? Well, probably, I mean, the guy that's not in it. Do you want the 21 car to win? If you're Ford Motor Company, who do you want to win this race? Of all the guys, of all the Fords that are out there,

which guy would you want to win this race? I mean, I'm probably lining up. I mean, yeah. It's the 21. Hands down, the 21 is a sentimental favorite going into this race. and hey that's probably a lot of pressure on Matt. I mean, to me, they had the last plate race potentially won. They screwed up at the very end and blocked the wrong lane.

And I was sitting there going, wow, can't believe he just did that. I don't think TJ Majors and Joy like, I don't make that error. And I think you guys win that race. But guess what? You don't have any pressure on you. Matt's got a lot of pressure on him. Yeah, for sure. But I think if I'm Penske, if I'm Ford, then I get to pick a guy.

He's my guy. I almost just think we just let's line up 17th through whatever Let them race And let them have a race Yeah 25 lap race Yeah

Winner advances You get the 17th spot Why do we have to have Why do we need to- Brian France is now on our show Over here everybody Why do we have to worry about Like all these other guys involved

That are locked in Let's just let these guys race it out Well it'd be like what The last chance qualifier And Outlaws or something LCQ This is the LCQ This is the LCQ.

A winner moves on. Let's see who can do it. I want to see, could you imagine a race with Austin, Matt, Ricky, Ross, Bubba, Briscoe, Eric Jones, Daniel Suarez? Could you imagine that race? In Daytona? We're going to get to watch it. They're all in the race. I know, but, like, you got to mix others.

Like, I'm talking about just them guys on the track together at the same time. Should they all start in the top four rows? Just draw for the start. I don't care. They're going to be 12 positions different. They're in the lap one anyway. Think you've heard all the stories from racing's past? Think again, Dirty Mo Media's newest podcast,

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single-handedly calls it, I can't wait to hear what these people are going to. I turned the wheel myself. I heard you say hook him. I don't know why I heard that. No, I, that, you must not have the button pushed down. I will never say hook him. But I have heard that on Radioactive before. Oh, yeah.

That's been said. What a fucking reaction? How about that move by Josh Berry? If you don't love Josh Barry, fuck you. Jesus. Okay. I assume we talking about that move up,

around on the top of one and two. That AJ screwed up? Yeah. Yeah. I was texting Chris going, hey, might want to tell them guys protect the top, protect the right rear. So I just saw Bob Pockerass, Casey, tweet that T.J. Majors is going to spot for Brad

Kzlovsky. And T.J., I just want to put your mind at ease. Don't worry. We hate Brad as much as we hate Jerry. You still suck. I think I want to get engaged to that, lady. I enjoyed that race. T.J. got fired from Jilly, Gano's. DJ, you suck. Freddie, you guys are unbelievably horrible. I mean, just trash. Just straight up trash.

I love blah, blah, blah. God, you guys are trash. I mean, it's going to be a shame when, you know, you get like Kurt Bush in that second car and he just starts knocking off wins and you guys are just continuing being trash. Brett, thank you for being a good man. I like you. You're a stand-up gentleman.

Well, that guy's a great Judge Carrier. He's a bread fan. He must be an idiot. What a great message to start off with on Monday. And just like that, week number one. Yeah, Casualski needs a new spotter.

Maybe T.J. Majors should do it. Hmm, what do you think he tried to teach him there that didn't quite get? Try to teach him out of block. A little late there, Brad. Good job, T.J. You suck. That was definitely a late block. There was zero block.

We left the bottom lane open for him through three and four. There was zero blocking. It was late. It was real late. We blocked with the front bumper, I guess, now, I guess. Freddie, why the hell was the number 23 upside down? So they let me go do the lettering this week. I was going to say, it's like me and you went and took a bunch of picklebacks.

They said, hey, guys, this Wednesday. You guys want to wrap the car? Yeah, we'll wrap the car for you guys. What an idiot. it. They were messing with me before the race. They're like, there might be an issue with the car. Let's see if you notice it. See if our spotters were to them. So then one of the other guys

before I got a chance to go up there was like, hey, Freddy, did anybody tell you that the roof number's on upside down? And I'm like, did you guys really think I wasn't going to f***ing notice that the roof number was upside down? I would have fired myself at that point. I'll go ahead and tell you, like, we don't use the roof numbers at all.

I mean, the team literally, I mean, I don't know when they letter the car. But it's still pretty hard to be that. dumb to put it upside that. I don't know when they let it the car, but nobody knew about it until we were at the track. It was for the fans, right? Yeah. We turned it around to the face of the fans.

Whoever did it needs to come on Twitter and own it. Like, you need to own this. Yeah, I don't know who did it. Because this is an epic up. I don't know who did it. Well, I guess TJ's move to the two proves that bullying still works. Can't blame you for not wanting to be told you suck every day.

But the real reason I'm checking in is I would like someone to please explain to me how Alan Gustafson makes some of the calls he does. I mean, yes, I get he was a big reason Chase won a championship, but he also makes some of the dumbest calls I've ever seen. Unless I'm missing something, how in the world on a track that track position is king, do you make that call to pit twice within six laps and lose position with one of, if not the fastest car all day?

Guys upset has got it win. So is Jason. Sounds like a chase, Elliot. I think that was Jason. But I mean, I don't know the scenarios. To me, we pitted an extra time because we had a loose lug nuts. So, and you don't know in a situation like that, like, I almost said you pitted an extra time because your car was wrecked and I forgot you spotted for bed. Yeah.

Did not pit an extra time. We did actually take the nose up once, but. Shout Ron Joy yesterday. Did, yeah. That felt good. That felt good. Take that out, Jason. No, that's that.

I mean, I want them to finish second to you. Okay. Yeah, I just wanted to give a shout out to Matt Benedetto. It was a great sixth place finished this weekend, Michigan. You know, it's great to see him and the Wood Brothers 21 coming together these past few weeks. They're in the right direction, it seems like. But unfortunately, those Wood Brothers. They're in the wrong direction because they don't fire Matt for next season.

We won't see Matt in the 21, 2021, 22, because they're going to put some rich boy behind the wheel. That Harrison Burton kid. It's stupid. I don't think the Wood brothers got no idea what they're doing if they're going to fire a guy like Matt DeBadetto and keep him out of the ride. When he really, he's just needing that big chance to get that big win for the Wood brothers. It's just a damn shame. You know what I mean, fellas? This guy sounds like our buddy, Jason Brownlow,

who's an official doing a Lou Holtz impression. If Jason Brownlow, we're going to give a Notre Dame pregame speech, that's what he would sound like. Does that not sound like Lou Holtz to you? A little bit. You're a Notre Dame guy. Yeah, a little bit. He just wants Matt Bender will get his chance to win a race.

He's had like 300 chances. I like how he says D. Ben, he's almost better than you. He's like, instead of D. Benedetto, it's D. Bendetto. Right, take notes. Cut a couple, cut a couple syllables off. To leave an audio message 24-7, go to anchor.fm. slash dormuperclare and click the message icon. So glad to see so many people leave you a congratulatory message, T.J.

That's awesome. Yeah, they were super positive. I'll say this. My Twitter, I scrolled it a little bit. I've been staying off of it because it's bad. We saw you updated it already with your new car number. I did. I did one little thing.

I hit delete one thing. Delete one number? Just took one number off. but um you know out reading through it though there was actually a lot of positive messages so and your poll was really good we had those people blocked so we didn't see any of that offer pad question of the week when you first moved out of the home you grew up in what was the first place you lived in like tj uh all hand me down stuff from i went from living living with my parents straight to North Carolina with a buddy of mine, D. Neal.

Oh, D. Neal. How's he doing? Yeah, he's good. That's that guy. We had a very, he had a unique house. There was an extra bedroom in there that nobody stayed in. So I moved in with him, really tiny house, but it was, we never had any food in the refrigerator. It was the weekends.

It was top to bottom beer. The place mass at the table where Waffle House placed. mats. We had a pillow room, which was a room that I guess. What did you guys doing there? Well, we just took naps and stuff. Hello fights. Duh.

Okay. It was like a room with a bunch of windows that we put all the blackout stuff over it. And then we're like, man, we just threw all pillows in there and made it a pillow room. So. I would definitely need a face mask full in there. We had a rabbit. Asmat suit. We had a rabbit that lived in the garage that ate insulation.

and didn't make it. His name was Crouton. Wow. Weird he didn't make it. So, yeah, that was the first place I lived in. Put him on a salad? Is that what happened? I threw him a carrot once in a while.

What the name came from? First, you'll get a kick out of this, Brett, because the first place I lived after moving out of my parents' house was with my buddy Rob. Oh, God. Who I, yes. I'm actually wearing a Tribuzio Grill t-shirt today. I'm surprised you survived. Well, we barely did.

It was, it was. same situation. It was basically a frat house. I was, I want to say, I was 19, 20 years old, maybe, and it was what we like to call a shisho. And if you're ever in the Jekyll Island, Georgia area, go visit either Sunrise Grill or Tribusio's Grill, ask for Rob, and you will know exactly why I tell you we barely survived. Ballheaded crazy dude. I left Pageland, South Carolina, which I grew up in the same. I never had but one house, a little two-bedroom home right there on the Chesterfield side of town. Anyway, I left there.

I went to Columbia, South Carolina. I moved into a four-bedroom apartment. My rent was $236.50 per month. It included all utilities. We moved in. We had a big onky-o sound system that my roommate, Jason Evans brought. And very first day, man, we got this thing cranking. We got it cranking.

And the people above us started jumping up and down on what was their floor in our ceiling. So I took a broom handle and started hitting the ceiling back. Like, screw you. Screw you. Well, guess what? what showed up. Police. Four cheerleaders.

Oh. They were all guys. Guy cheerleaders. Okay, never mind. And I was like, and they had on their cheerleading stuff. And I was like, hey man, what's up? You guys got your music too loud. I was like, you guys should come down here.

It's fun down here. It ended up. We got to be buddies with them. But University Commons, which is no longer named that. Casey, South Carolina, right across the river from the best school. I think I walked past everyone on the planet, the University of South Carolina. Yeah, Freddie, you probably saw it on your tour of Columbia. Talk about it?

Yeah. Too sure. You're going to talk? Hands down, two of the best years of my life living right there. I had a really good time. I think I did. I don't remember much of mine. It's so funny because, like, we would go to the store to get adult beverages and we would

buy, you know, like, pop off. You know, like, you get a half gallon for $4 back then. Oh, yeah. I mean, and now, like, you wouldn't dare touch that cheap stuff. No. No. Upgraded. Go get a cash offer on your home today with our presenting sponsor offerpad.com.

It's that time again, where we discuss our favorite Exfinity X-Fi more than fast moments. Whether you're on or off the track, speed isn't the only thing you need. What were your favorite more than fast moments this week? Brett. I got to say the fastest thing I saw Casey on the racetrack was Josh Barry in that one car when he took the lead three wide, and then they keyed up and said, that's how it's done, boys.

So, I mean, if I'm going to think fast, it's going to be hard to beat how fast that happened. Freddie? My more than fast moment will probably have to go to Ryan Blaney for that last restart, getting out front, him and Josh controlling the race from that point on. Did a great job blocking lanes and taking air away from guys, which is what you've got to do now in Michigan. So my more than fast moment will probably go to Ryan Blaney and Josh Williams,

a spotter for the way they control that race at the end. I like it. TJ. I'm going to go with AJ. He took the top spot and hold off to hold up Brandon Jones for the win. He's got momentum, and momentum's hard to beat sometimes, so I'm going to roll with AJ Omminger. We like it fast here on Doorbubber Clear, but what we really like is being more than fast. Thankfully, there's always tons of action for our Xfinity X-Fi more than fast moments.

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Brett's favorite segment, what an idiot. Man, there's so many candidates. I mean, the 23 guys pretty bad, but it'd be easier to give that out if we actually knew who did it. You know, we don't know who did it. So I got to go with whomever started the truck race at 9 o'clock and the lights going out. How hard is it to know? We've had this problem here before. How hard is it to have a plan in place that if the lights go out, guys, we're probably going to need a backup plan. So whoever didn't think ahead on that deal.

I mean, this is a track that I think would be awesome for a cup race. This is a market that I think would be awesome for a cup race. I've heard we may be going cup racing there down the road. And we can't get there and have the biggest show in the world. going on at that particular moment in time because I can't think of a lot on Friday night at 9 o'clock that would be bigger than a NASCAR race for us to give people an opportunity to change channel

because we can't pay the light bill. I know that literally is not what happened, but whatever happened to cause that, what an idiot. My one idiot for the weekend, I had a couple candidates as well. One, Thadmoff intentionally reckoning a guy at two-mile hour. He took mine. I mean, you can have it, but my one idiot for the weekend

is the Lamont Flagler. Did you see this guy? You know, the- Oh, my, you almost got hit. So, I don't know. No. So 24-hour Lamont, the flagger that throws, I don't, I'm assuming maybe he throws the green from there, but I know he throws a checkered flag. He's out on the racetrack.

Like the old school days. He's like two lanes off the bottom of the racetrack out there, jumping up and down, waving the checker flag. Well, here they come, like, six in a row at them. And there's a hell of a race for, like, the LMP2 class or something like that. So they got to dart through this traffic that's slower that's kind of slowing down because of the checker flag. Yeah.

Well, here's the dude. in there and somebody darts out of the line to the right and I'm talking misses this flagman by two feet maybe three feet I don't know wow but I mean that I mean who never thought the good idea to stick the flag or out there while these guys are trying to race back to the line what an idiot hmm I'm I mean I read where the uh the guy that was collateral damage in the arker payback has a broke leg I heard he's real messed up like her what happened there Tell us a little bit more. I mean, I guess two guys had contact, and there was some retaliation,

and there was a third car involved, and the guy ended up getting his leg broke. So that's not a good scenario. Yeah, you cannot intentionally wreck a guy at a two-mile race track. I don't care what happened earlier in the race. That's something that can't happen. I mean, if you do, I mean, holy cow, that's a little bit more thing. Wow. Even if you do it, you can't take others with you.

Yeah, no doubt. Brett just watched the Lamont thing, and the guy actually hit the flag. That's how close he was to the flagman. The flagman, like, steps back a little bit. He's like, whoa. Yeah, if you haven't seen it, just search out a Lamont flagger, and you'll see the end of the race. It's pretty sketchy.

DBC picks. After Michigan, Freddie wins with Ryan Blaney. Still leads with a score of 13 to 8 to 5 with Brett in second and T.J. third. Ready for picks for Dayton? TJ. I got robbed. You guys are running out of weeks. How many races can I clinch with?

I guess once you're 10 up, or depend. It'll be less, yeah. Boy, this is going to be tough. I don't have a lot to pick from, but the best one in my group is probably definitely going to be Eric Jones. Solid pit. I mean, I've already talked about this guy here today and the scenario that would be a cool scenario.

0 for 237 in the Cup series. 0469 in the Xfinity series. Matt Dibandedetto, I need you to beat whoever Freddie is about to pick. And, TJ, you could win a race every now and then, you know? No, my guys are all, if I pick them. He jinxes them. Yeah. I'll take old AA, Eric Amarroo.

Who would have thought that Kevin Harvick would be 15th in points with no winning? wins if he doesn't win Daytona, obviously, going into this playoff. Like, who would have thought that would be what the championship standings reset to? So I'm not insane. It is insane. It will definitely be a great race to watch on Friday and Saturday. It'll be exciting. I mean, I was talking about this with somebody on the plane last night.

I feel like, which Brett, you didn't get a chance to do it yesterday, but it was, in my opinion, that restarts yesterday is probably. more wild than what we're going to do next week because there was going on everywhere. There was runs coming from every direction. You're four and five wide and trying to figure out what lane's going to get moving. And you don't want to be on the bottom. No, you do not want to be on the bottom of three wide, especially through one and two. So it was a good warm up for what we're going to ready to do this week.

So if fans want to meet you in Daytona, will you guys be living at the Oyster Pub? I will not be in Daytona. Freddie's a Sunday only guy. He's a big time. Saturday. Oh, Saturday. Well, yeah, I hope Saturday. Sunday, we got our first weekend of football, baseball tournaments around here.

So, yeah, I, man, I love Daytona. I love spotting there. Could be the last weekend I ever spot at Daytona, depending on what happens. You never know, right? So go take it all in, try to win one. All right. Well, as always, thank you so much for listening. And thank you to our amazing presenting sponsor, OfferPad.

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