Door Bumper Clear - 230 – Bristol II: Let ‘Em Talk

Episode Date: September 20, 2021

Bristol Motor Speedway delivered a thrilling weekend of playoff racing and spotters TJ Majors, Brett Griffin and Freddie Kraft are in the Bojangles Studio to react to everything that went down under the lights.With tempers flaring and multiple heated arguments post-race, the crew has plenty to talk about after the first round of the NASCAR Cup Series Playoffs concluded. Shades of old Bristol showed throughout the tripleheader of races at the iconic short track and the guys discuss why that was and what to expect moving forward.Given the exciting racing on the concrete surface, many asked if it is still necessary to run the spring Bristol race weekend on dirt. Hear the spotters weigh in and what they wish to do instead of taking away a concrete surface Bristol race.As the intensity picked up late in the event on Saturday night, many playoff contenders suffered cut tires that jeopardized their chance at the championship. Hear how they recovered and what is expected to happen in similar situations with the Next Gen car.Chase Elliott was among those who suffered from a cut tire and he showed his frustration by taking a swipe at race leader Kevin Harvick later in the race. That then led to Elliott maintaining his line as a lapped car in front of Harvick for the remainder of the night as Elliott’s teammate Kyle Larson drove by to win. This then sparked their heated confrontation post-race.The spotters break down the situation from both sides, provide insight from Harvick’s manger Josh Jones who was in the middle of it all and share what they think might happen moving forward. They are also joined by Associated Press motorsports journalist Jenna Fryer to discuss what happened when Kevin Harvick and others told a media member to stop filming the conversation.Friday night’s Xfinity Series race delivered plenty of drama too, as leaders AJ Allmendinger and Austin Cindric crashed while crossing the finish line. The guys discuss the incident and how the regular season championship came to be decided in dramatic fashion.In the Truck Series race, Chandler Smith’s pass on Sheldon Creed for the win fueled a fiery debate. Hear what the gang thinks about Smith’s move and how he passed his teammate John Hunter Nemechek a few laps later.The 2022 Cup Series schedule was released last week and the spotters analyze the major changes coming next season. Hear their opinions on the Clash at the LA Coliseum, racing on Easter Sunday, one off-week the entire year, Pocono losing its doubleheader, Gateway’s Cup date, and Homestead returning to the playoffs.Then in Reaction Theatre, fans are fired up discussing Kevin Harvick leaving his helmet on, other people getting in the way of the drivers post-race, Chase Elliott’s repeat offenses, plus two new songs. Want more DBC? Check out and subscribe to the new DBC YouTube channel! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Door Bumper Hey what's up? Welcome to door bumper Presented by Offerpad. I'm Brett Griffin and we have a lot to cover after It's Bristol Baby. Today we'll talk about everything relating to Kevin Harvick versus Chase Elliott, A.J. Amadinger and Austin Cendrick 6thinity Series

Race Finish. The 2022 schedule finally came out and Jennifer Fryer will join us. There's also much, much more. Like, bring it home. Nobody's listening, but I don't care. I'm on an episode of Door Bumper Clear. Hey, everybody. I'm T.J. Major's spotter of the one truck, the two cup car, and welcome to the Bojangles

studio. How about those Caj and Filet biscuits I brought in this morning? I can't believe Hannah had never had a Cajun Filet biscuit before this morning. We're fixed up right. We're expanding the Bojangles menu for Hannah now. Yeah, I know. It was good. It was a good little treat.

Thanks, Brett. You're welcome. Brett Griffin spotted this past weekend. Jeff Burton. We're off to Las Vegas next weekend. I'm not spotting next weekend, Freddie. Unless you need me to sub again. Yeah, what's up?

Freddie Craft Spotter for Bubba Wallace and Derek Krauss this weekend. Got a big shout out to my buddy Brett for covering for me on Saturday so I could go to Eddie Partridge's funeral. Friday. Sorry, Friday. So that I can go to the funeral on Saturday morning. That's a tough deal, but made for a long day Saturday. But we actually had a pretty good race on Saturday night.

that was kind of made up for a little bit. What's up, Hannah? Welcome back. Hello, hello. Excited to be back. I feel like everyone at Bristol predicted this because the amount of people that I had to ask me when I'm coming back on here. I was like, I don't know. And then Jason hit me with the text yesterday. So excited to be back.

We missed you. We did? You know, I don't know if I can say the same about you guys. Be quiet, frank. Okay, get out. You're fine. Poor Hannah. She had to clean up the mess that was in her chair when she got here.

Yeah, we're going to need that biscuit back. Her whole side of the table over there was a mess for. I think maybe from Casey last week. Napkins, crumbs. You have been, Hannah, you have been probably the busiest you've ever been, right, this year? Oh, my goodness. Yeah, I think by the end of the year, I'm going to have covered like 62 races or something. Wow.

Yeah, the end of the season can hurry up if it wants. So what all series are you covering? Literally everything. If it's got wheels and a motor, I cover it. I did all three NASCAR National Series this year. I did the World of Outlaw, Late Models, Super Dirk Car Series, big block racing, cars tour. I'm doing some arena cross in the next couple weeks. So it has been a busy summer.

You know what's funny is Hanner does all these races and traveling and stuff, but yet... Whoa! T.J. almost had an epic crash. I almost had this water bottle, and I promise you, if you spill this on me, I'm spilling it on you. You are probably the most knowledgeable female that I personally know. You're way more knowledgeable than me as a guy. as far as all the different kinds of, let's quantify this statement. As far as knowing so much about so many forms of racing

and knowing so many drivers within so many disciplines and understanding the craft that it takes to go into each of those series. So with you being this busy, because you can be too busy to have fun, are you too busy to have fun or are you having a blast covering all this stuff? There was a couple weeks where I was too busy to have fun, where I was like, okay, I need a couple days off. And I still paint cars, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday. So I went about two and a half months with, like, no day off.

And that's when I was like, okay, I need to reevaluate how I'm doing things. So fortunately, the season's kind of starting to slow down. Like, this week, I'm not going to Vegas. I'm covering the big Martinsville late model stock race at, well, at Martinsville. That's fine. And, yeah. So the nice thing is, like, I'll have, like, kind of a Thursday, Friday off. But it's been really fun to diversify everything because it was kind of new every time I was going to the racetrack, which was exhausting.

But I got to go to some incredible places with the outlaws. I mean, I got to go to Lagunae a couple weeks ago. Beautiful facility. Super cool to get to go to Monterey. But yeah, it's definitely warm me out a little bit this year. My brain, I'm not sure how much more, like, random racing information it can take. I mean, you're still having fun. I saw you at Saeed's last night.

Yeah. Let's not make it seem like you're sitting on the couch doing nothing. Yeah, I know. I thought you were too old to go to Saiz now. Me? You're still young enough to go to Saeeds? Who you talking? mirror her. I was going to say he was there with me.

Freddie's a kid at heart of the rest of his life. I'm talking about you literally in ages. So my justification for Saeeds, okay, is we were out running around day drinking yesterday. And we looked at our clock and we were like, okay, it's 7.15, 7.30. If we go, no one will be there. We can have the karaoke machines to ourselves. We can be out of Saeeds by 10.30 and it's great. Like you day drink all day.

You're still in bed at a decent time. We're standing there and I hear a voice behind me and I'm like, you got to be being. and I turned around in walks Brandon McReynolds and I was like oh no and I go who's all with you and he goes everyone and not but five minutes later here comes Freddie Doug the whole group and I was like how does this happen like how do we all still end up to the same barge and I have kids and we weren't there and now the karaoke machine yourself is over because Brandon McReynolds has now taken it over

because that's all he does and it would be no music playing and he would just start singing another song until the next song came on. Here's the only thing. One more question I have to get to you before we start to show. This blew up on Twitter. Is your dad okay? My goodness, what a crash. Oh, my gosh.

Yeah. So during the Xfinity race in Daytona, during the rain delay, I ran out to the parking lot and he was racing a big super late model race back in Idaho at our home track of Marine Speedway. And I'm watching on a race monitor because I couldn't get the stream to load. And I see it's qualifying. and I see him go out because his name comes across the screen, and all of a sudden it goes red, like it does on a race monitor,

and you're like, oh, shit. I thought he blew up or something, so I was like, whatever. I get on Facebook, see the picture of him eight feet in the air with his super late model. Like, that just doesn't happen. He's good. Got a broken rib. You know, can't do anything for that, but car is destroyed. Like, there is nothing salvaged on that.

For as bad as that look wrecked for him to only have a broken rib is amazing. I called him, and he's like, I'm forced retirement now. I'm done. I'm done racing super. I'm just going to race the truck. I was like, probably a good idea. Like, you know, to be done. Two weeks later, he calls me,

hey, I traded the truck for another super late model, so I'm going to Hermeson in a couple weeks. I'm like, are you f*** me? Come on, dude. Speaking of racing, obviously Bristol this past weekend, you know, NASCAR worries about ratings. These tracks, TJ, they worry about selling tickets. If those races don't sell tickets and they don't get good ratings,

I don't know what will, because those races were absolutely insane. I thought the trucks were a little bit over the top with the crashes. I thought the Xfinity race was freaking epic and I thought the cup race was epic. Isn't that how I was supposed to go? Trucks were like the most inexperienced. Xfinity race was, I mean, how do you

racing across, wrecking across start finish line? I mean, it doesn't get much better than that as far as for a fan standpoint, in my opinion. You had a little bit of everything. So I thought it was a good racing. And I thought the track was in really good shape on Saturday night as well. That's probably one of the better,

Bristol races for some reason that I that I remember where both lanes were kind of usable You know, at certain points there were guys that were really fast on the bottom and you know you had to roll in there and kind of be really patient really slow around the bottom Then you had guys around on the top that were like Right on the edge, you know, they could jump the cushion and and brush the fence which I totally different driving style too Which I thought was fun to see Yeah, I thought the same thing about the bottom you know I don't know if it got for our race anyway we we were better on the bottom. So it would take 30 or 40 laps to get going.

But once we got going, everybody was on the top, and we could go to the bottom. And you could see guys that were struggling, they'd come up on a lab car, and all the lap cars were to the top for the most part. Like, they couldn't run the bottom. You know, it was almost like it had to be one or the other. Like your car was set up to run in the grip or at the grip.

The bottom, for us, kind of went away late. We faded a little bit. But yeah, the racing. Well, I saw you making ground up there one time, and you were kind of creeping in on us, and I'm like, look, man, I know you've been running the top, but Bubba's making up ground on the bottom

been three and four here. So Brad moves down and it kind of maintained that you encouraged a block imagine that. Oh, he didn't get to us. We weren't that close to block us. Yeah. Yeah. When you see a guy making speed up, I mean, you got to, you got to try it. So it, but it wasn't much. It was a little bit like a half car length every single lab, but he was definitely making it work. And I think you see a lot of times there, especially the way it trends is the bottom of one and two and the top of three and four kind of become the preferred grus. And you can't run them both obviously in traffic. But You know, if you can run the top of three and four and then the bottom of one and two, I think, was like some of the way to make the best lap time. But that's kind of why you see the side-by-side racing like you do, because the top lane's got a little advantage of three and four.

And then it evens out a little bit where the bottom's got the advantage of three one and two. So, you know, promote side-by-side racing. Off a two, the guy in the bottom almost clears him. And then off of four of the guy. And, I mean, it's just, it's good racing. Yeah. I mean, I didn't, unfortunately, I didn't get to see that any of the Xfinity race. I saw the finish, obviously, on Twitter when I got back to the hotel that night.

But it sounded like a heavy race. You didn't miss much, right? Typical crazy Bristol Xfinity race. You know, you only got a couple hundred lapsed to get it done. Guys are aggressive. There's lap cars in the way. Everybody's being super aggressive.

I mean, you had some big. It was more bottom. It was more bottom feeding. For sure, absolutely. The second lane, the only thing that came in a little bit higher was the second middle of the track in three and four. There was no high lane on both ends. And restarts, if you wanted to turn one in the second lane on a restart

or at any point, it was just, it would skate around a little. bit, which it reminded me of an old Bristol. It raced a lot like an old Bristol. And the Saturday race was just freaking epic. But, man, I was watching these races play out, and you can't help but fast forward the next year. And you're like, what does the next gen car do when we come back here? You know, is it going to be able to put on as good at a show?

Because here's the thing. Saturday, we're still going to have this epic infinity race. And Sunday, you know, is that new car going to be able to step up and be able to rival that? Because I'll be honest with you, man. I was worried on Saturday that the Cup cars wouldn't rival Friday night's race, but they did. They turned around and did, but with a new product, a lot of unknowns. And we won't know until we get to the Second Bristol.

That's the thing about it. I think we got fun with the Xfinity race, and I didn't have high expectations for the cup race. Like after that Xfinity race, I was like, well, that was the race for the weekend. Like, we topped it. Everyone's going to walk away from Saturday being like Xfinity is superior, which we hear all the time on Twitter. And, man, somehow they still ended up topping it. But did any of you spot the ARCA race? No one?

DJ wrecked it. I mean, spotted it. I don't know ARCA was there. Yeah, my guy wrecked. Were you spotting gray? No. No. I was spotting for Andy Jane Cowiac. Yeah, I don't understand why we have the ARCA cars running the same amount of laps as the trucks. 200 laps.

When I saw that, I was like, Arca, 200 laps, laps, 31 cars. Oh, boy. How long did that take? A long time. I think there was 11 cautions. He was one of those. of them. Yeah. Yeah, Thursday night was a long night with the trucks and the car cars.

I felt bad for my guy because they only have one car and he's a Western New York guy where I'm from and he pinched this guy and I'm like inside, still there, still there. And he's like trying to make the guy lift and the guy wasn't lifting and he got in a little bit off of two and he did that whole arm sideways and it hooked back to the right, then it hooked back to the left and he hit the inside wall. Yeah. He's primarily a modified racer, right? Oh, yeah.

Because I know he ran at Richmond. He finished top 10 at Riverhead on Saturday. He's been all over the place recently. Yeah, I've seen him run some stuff in Florida too. Shout out to Colleg Racing. Obviously, Freddie and I have ties with those guys. Regular season champions. So cool.

Quite the surprise for me. Not going to lie to you. If you had told me at the beginning of the season that they were going to beat Junior Motorsports, Penske racing, Joe Gibbs Racing, and they were going to be the outright regular season champion. and I would have told you that you're wrong. There's no chance. And holy cow, here they are.

All three drivers have won. AJ's obviously won a lot of races on a lot of different styles of racetracks. Seems to be having the most fun he's ever had in his life. And that's a big accomplishment for a young team to go out and beat the teams that I just mentioned. And I would say, and I could be wrong, but I would say the favorites going into this thing. And this is probably stating the obvious. Is Cendrick with Penske and AJ with collard racing. and that's against some big names at other big teams, Reddy.

Yeah. I mean, I had a feel. I really felt bad for Chris Rice when I went back and somebody had tagged me in the video of the finish. And, you know, here's AJ sideways across the line, hits the inside wall, comes back across and who's he get clobbered by the 11. So it's like Chris just won the race and just destroyed two perfectly good race cars. But, yeah, I mean, awesome for Chris. I will say that, you know, they were two or three laps from that. You know, he was going to trade that for the regular season championship at that point.

Because with what that whole last run, Cendrick was just kind of, they weren't going to catch him. And that late caution, you know, if you would have told him, hey, we're going to get a late caution, you're going to have two TOR up race cars, but you're going to win the regular season championship. I think he probably would have taken it. I'll take the deal. Yeah. Yeah, you know, and that was going to be my question, because I'm sure we're going to talk about it later in the show with the finish.

But, you know, at that moment, if you're A.J. Allmendinger and you know, you're going to finish in the top seven or eight there, whatever, you know, if you're going to finish top five, you're going to win the regular season championship. Are you, is it worth it to risk that regular season championship to win that race? Yeah. It's got to be. It's five more points.

Yeah, but I'm saying you're giving up five to go for five. or you're giving up potentially 10 to Cindric if you wreck. Okay, we're going to talk about that in a little bit, the move for all of that. Okay, all right. We're getting too excited over here. Yeah, we're getting fired up. All right, well, before we get things going, let's hear a little bit more about our presenting sponsor of OfferPad.

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Spot off. My voice is literally like cracking from karaoke last night. I sound rough. What songs did you sing? How many say you guys? 1985 bowling for soup. I think I sang a Winona Judd song. Bowling for soup.

Yeah. You've never heard of them. That's the band. That's not the song. Sing it. Sing something. I'm not singing anything right now. You're so old.

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Let's roll with this. Bristol only has one concrete surface race a year now. Obviously, they announced we're going to have dirt back next year. And only one of them is going to be concrete, both night races. We'll talk about the schedule later, though. Brett, spot on, spot off. Man, I'm going to be honest with you. The way the schedule got shook up this year, I'm just spot on.

We're going to Bristol concrete for one time because we saw a lot of big changes. Look, there's this big argument, do we dirt, do we not dirt? And I'm a no-dirt guy. And I think that at the end of the day, this is a TV decision, that this is out of NASCAR's hands. I think this is out of Bristol Motor Speedway's hands. I think this is something that TV wants to see happen. And they want to see it happen so freaking bad that we're going to do it on Easter Sunday in primetime TV.

Do you think that they want that thing to be a success? My answer is probably so. So I think we're all just stuck for this year with one Bristol concrete race. And I think everyone inside of the industry, I can't say everyone. I think most of the folks that I know inside of the industry, and most media members that I saw on Twitter are on my side. They want to see two concrete races and not just one, Freddie. Yeah, spot off.

I think we said it on here. Like, I'm all for a dirt race. Like, diversify the schedule, have a dirt race at a dirt track. It should not have cost us. It should not have cost us one of our best short track races of the year to go have a dirt race somewhere. You look at this weekend, every race, great finish. You know, every race, you know, Barnburner finishes, Barnburner battles. What a great idea to make this a cutoff race in the playoffs because, like we talked about, you know,

We'll talk about it here later, but the drama that Bristol brings, you know, it's just, it's just Bristol. You know, what's the quote, it's Bristol, baby. That's all it is. You know, that's what you expect. It's what you get every time we go there. No matter what configuration, what P.J.1's laid down. It produces a great short track race, and it just sucks that we have to give one of those up to have a dirt race. Yeah, I kind of agree.

I don't think Bristol's built for dirt. And, man, how do you get rid of one of them weekends? man, even the day race, normally it's day race in the spring, night race in the fall, but, you know, I still think as far as a cutoff race, great idea. Plate races and short tracks are going to make for great cutoff races, in my opinion. So this ain't going to happen because NASCAR owns Richmond and obviously SMI owns Bristol, but would you rather see Richmond sacrificed for a dirt race or Bristol's sacrifice for a dirt race? Richmond.

It's a Jason's favorite race. I thought Richmond was such a good race. Why are we sacrificing one? I would sacrifice one over the other. I would, I still wouldn't sacrifice. I would stop covering racetracks in dirt and go to a dirt track. We have plenty of dirt tracks we can go to. You know what I was thinking you mentioned the reason that we're putting dirt back on it.

It has a lot to do with the TV push. I think so. So I'm going to contradict you here and say that I think the reason we're keeping dirt on Bristol is Bristol and SMI's opportunity to rent that facility out for more events than just NASCAR. They're going to bring World of Outlaws back. They're going to bring that big short track. you know nationals whatever dirt car where they run 65 four bangers around that for two weeks they're basically opening up ristel for two to three more weekends opportunities to sell tickets

sell pit passes and that kind of stuff because the pavement short track racing world went away from that they were wrecking super late models it was really fast wasn't going well for him so they've scratched that event so i wonder if they you know saw pretty good return on that last year and thought, well, NASCAR's going to come anyways, and this gives SMI and Bristol an opportunity to rent that facility. I think they absolutely have to go bang for their buck on it. But at the end of the day, we could go concrete in March, and then they've got all summer to do that if they still wanted to do that, right? I think from a NASCAR perspective, as an insider, we've got three real short tracks. It's Richmond, Martinsville, Bristol, right? And I don't think we should be taking dates from any

of those three tracks to go do a dirt track race. I think if we're going to take a date, then that Pocono race that we just saw go away, make that be a dirt track. And I think there's enough tracks out there with two races that are not producing great races right now that if we're going to start pulling dates, pull it from one of those mile and a halfs and let's go. Texas. Texas is a great example. And I mean, as much as I hate to say this, Vegas is another great example. And I'm talking about specifically tracks that are SMI owned, you know, not the NASCAR guys owned because this date is going to have to come from SMI inventory. It's just unfortunate it comes from their best track to do so.

All right, next one here. Both Kyle Bush and Christopher Bell pit for flat tires under green late in the race, and both of them barely stay above the cutoff line to advance. Freddie. You know, kind of what we talked about. Just Bristol creates drama. You know, they both cut tires, Bell pounds the fence after he cut the tire. But you saw this a bunch of times through the race, the 18, the 20, the 10, the 9,

the 11. All these guys had issues, you know. The 11 and the 5 barely touch each other down. front stretch and immediately cuts the right front on the 11. The damn four and the nine get together immediately cuts the nine's tire. You know, it's just, you know, this is what Bristol brings. You know, this is, it's just drama. And the biggest thing I took away from it, especially on the 18 and 20 side, is we have

seen a lot of guys, we talk about this a lot in the negative side, talk about situational awareness and, you know, guys making mistakes and not knowing where the hell they are and making, you know, bad, bad runs to pit road. whatever, but the execution of the 18 and 20, this is not an easy pit road. This is a place that's easy to get lost. We've seen guys like Jeff Gordon get lost here and come down the wrong pit road, you know. So to know which side of the racetrack you're on, get right down pit road as soon as your tires down, blend up in the right spot, not speed. I mean, the execution there, if they make one mistake, they're out of the playoffs. So, you know, just situational awareness,

knowing where you're at, knowing which side you can enter, which side you can blend off of. their execution was perfect and it needed to be because they only both made it by, you know, less than five points. So, I mean, if they come down the wrong pit road and have to make a whole lap around the race track on pit road, you're going to lose multiple laps and now you're probably out of the playoffs. I mean, that's just short tracking, spot on for, that's what happens there. And you hate to see it, but that's just short track race. And there's guys get into each other, guys have problems. We get to mile and a half.

there's way less contact when you're going 190-mile-hour or 200-mile-hour. So you put all these guys, you put that many cars at a place like Bristol, there's going to be contact. So that's just why we like going there too, because things happen. You know, nobody, if nothing happened there, who would watch, you know? And I think when you got guys messing up, a guy like Christopher Bell, messing up, getting into the wall, which to me is an air. and like why why is he pushing that hard at that point?

Oh, he blew, he blew it right front. That's how he got the fence. But what caused the right? He just, he said it's just like a hit like it. Okay, yeah. I mean, that stinks. So, yeah. Tough luck there, but way to, way to execute you said.

I don't know what happened with Kyle because I don't think Kyle had any, I don't know, he might have a contact coming through the pack, but he didn't. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know, but he just comes right front. This analogy isn't going to be 100% accurate, but these bodies on these cars are fragile in the cup series. I mean, it's almost like their paper thin. The 11 and 5 didn't really. didn't really hit that hard.

And man, the left rear of the five was just almost destroyed from it. Obviously, Danny got a flat tire. You watch Xfinity Series guys beat and bang with those composite bodies. They're a lot tougher. I think that is foreshadowing for what we should see with this next gen car, that the body is going to be a lot tougher. And the beating and banging that we all, you know, growing to love for NASCAR racing is going to be more prevalent without these guys

having this kind of danger. But at the end of the day, this was drama. And I was watching from home. And I was jumping up and down going, crazy because here we are two really of the top four contenders. I mean, let's face it, Kyle Busch, amazing guy. Christopher Bell, he's had a great season. And all of a sudden, these guys may be out because of a flat tire. So spot on for the drama, spot off for how weak the bodies are. But I think we're fixing that. The main concern that I, the counterpoint to your

point there with the bodies are, yeah, the bodies are going to be tougher next year. The problem might be the stuff that's underneath the body, not being as tough and not promoting wheel to wheel you know banging into each other. If you brush the wall in this new car. No, like the aluminum arms that we can connect our suspension. You know, like upper control lines and stuff. If you start brushing the wall, we're hearing these things don't, they're not very durable. Right.

Yeah, yeah. I mean, you're talking aluminum pieces that probably aren't going to hold up as well as what we have now. It'll be interesting to see. We don't know. You know, obviously that's what we're doing testing. We're not going to, I would assume we're not going to wreck anything. But that's kind of my point was what we were talking about the Coliseum last week was we're going to stress test this stuff right out of the gate. So we'll see.

But it'll be interesting. Speaking of drama, there was contact from Kevin Harvick as he cuts Chase Elliott's tire down. Chase Pitts and says that fucker does this shit every week to get a flat tire. Fuck him. Wow. That's aggressive. I think I need to hand that to actually to Jason. I'm going to come to TJ on this one.

No. Did this move remind you of anything? slightly but not nearly I mean not nearly as bad no but I know I've been on the receiving end of this before so Chase if you don't remember this was last year right 2020 the first race last year

chase Elliott throws it in the corner and turn three gets loose and stuffs Joey Lagano in the fence well this is after Joey passed him clean without touching him and then Chase hits him in one and then destroys him in front so and Chase got out of the car and said I was just going for the win you know I got screwed up, sorry about that, but I was going for the win. What's the difference?

It's okay for you to go for the win, but it wasn't okay for Harvick to go for the win here. Listen, I get it. Chase has every right to be mad, but have a little bit of, you know, memory here where you just did this to somebody else and times 10, because you took both of you is out of the race. Well, that's already forgotten for me. That doesn't matter anymore. I mean, you know, it's just I can't stand the fact that, you know, oh, it's okay for you to just go for the win, but nobody else. look I'm spot on because this is what we doesn't matter who the people are this is what short track and produces this is what happens

and it could have been for first it could have been for 10th or whatever but the race I mean we were racing our tails off for six or seventh around that time and I'm watching these leaders battle too and they are catching like it was all a timing game and it was honestly I didn't want it to end I didn't want I wanted that race to keep going because it was It was just fun to watch, man. You know, these guys are, does he run the bottom here? Does he get pinned? What's this guy do?

Where's this lapper go? What's going to happen? But this is, you know, they got together. I don't think Kevin Harvick's going to go in there and risk hitting his right front on a left rear and flattening his own right front front, just like Denny. Denny didn't go in there and expect to cut his right front tire. He's just racing. And that's what happens.

One guy, he stays six inches lower on the straightway and they did the last lap. they're going to hit, you know. I think, before I let you finally talk, I think it almost caught Harvick by surprise because there was a lap car there and I think Kevin thought he had Chase wedged behind the lap car and the lap car was the 52. I'm not sure who was driving.

It probably would be licky if I had to guess. He does a great job to get out of the way. He moves up and gives Chase that middle and I'm not 100% sure it just didn't catch Kevin off guard that Chase was back out there already. But, you know, this is Brett short track racing. I think it's pretty simple. I think Freddie summed it up well.

a spot on you for that. I'm going to say if you're the one doing the screwing, you're usually pretty happy. If you're the one getting screwed, you're usually not happy. Chase was screwing Legano and Chase was happy. Chase got screwed in the Harvick situation. Chase wasn't happy. I think when you come out on the short end of the stick, you're mad. When you're the guy who's taking advantage of the other guy, you're like, oh man, I'm sorry. And it just didn't play out that way. And obviously it led to the bigger drama that Hannah's about to cover now. Yeah, that leads us to our next with Chase Elliott holds his line while racing the leaders. Late as teammate Kyle Larson passed Harvick for the win.

Harvick said, I just told him it was kind of a chicken shit-and-mov move he did at the end. We want to start with you on that one there? I mean, I'm glad to start. Look, I think Chase brought up the fact that he was mad from Darlington, that he felt like this has happened multiple times with him and Kevin. I think he felt like he was slighted. And I think had Chase Elliott come off of Pit Road and his playoff bubble been on the line that he was,

would have hammered down and drove around as many race cars as he possibly could. But he come off pit road. He went up and he sidest wiped Kevin Harvick. And look, that alone could have cut Kevin's tire down. That alone could have ruined Kevin's race. And when it didn't, I think Chase chose to get up in front of Kevin Harvick and ride until the opportunity presented himself to return the screwing. And that's what he did.

And I think if you're NASCAR, if you're NASCAR, if you're NASCAR, car, you're in a pickle here because this is obviously changing the outcome of the race. And it's pretty obvious based on the dialogue between Kevin and Chase via radio and via post race that this was obvious. But here's what I'm going to say the positives are. Man, Chase Elliott is not chicken shit. That is a false claim by Kevin Harvick. He jumped out of his car with no helmet on and went straight to Harvick. And I said, saw crew guys from the four kind of lurking behind Chase and around Chase. I didn't see a lot of hooters guys there to protect their guy, and I didn't see one bit of chicken shit fear in Chase Elliott

throughout this whole process. We saw him tangle on the racetrack. We saw him tangle again on the racetrack. We saw him tangle on pit road. We saw him tangling again with the Jordan bionchi situation. And then we saw him t.J. go up in a hauler. And at no point did I see a scared Chase Elliott, despite the fact that Kevin had Josh Jones with him the whole time, Mike Arning with him the whole time, whoever this T-shirt guy was, that ultimately went after Jordan Biaki, it's pretty clear he had three or four guys in his corner the whole time. I pretty much saw Chase on an island with what looked like two female PR ladies, PR representatives kind of in the distance who are going to be of

zero help to that guy if all hell breaks loose. Yeah, I didn't see Chase wasn't backing down and he shouldn't back down. And I'd give it Chase for that, for sure. I think Chase handled it well other than you know i don't he's done his like i do think freddie has a point on the other deal there you know but i didn't like that he did he actually waited for him i feel like it didn't if it lines up naturally fine but i feel like he passed a lap car and kind of took off that would you see that he passed that one lap car and kind of took off from them guys a little bit and then he's like oh here they come back to him again so i don't know i know chase was mad and like everybody handle stuff differently and just what he chose to do.

Is there a more satisfying feeling than what Chase Elliott got to experience at the end of that race? Like this guy just cut my tire, cost me a shot to win the race. I'm going to run here and ruin his race. I'm going to cost him to win. And he did. And I don't know how if I was Chase Elliott, I would have the biggest smile on my face watching that five card take that checker flag knowing I just cost Kevin Harvick the race after what he did to me.

And, you know, now if I'm spotting for the first, four car? Yes, I'm going to be upset, but it should be expected. You just took this guy's chance to win the race away. Here he is. He can choose to drive off if he needs to, which he didn't need to. His playoff position was secure.

So yeah, he's going to do there. Now it's your turn to counterreact that. And go up there. If you can get to him, knock him out of the way. Wreck him again. I mean, that's your option. Because guess what? At that point, you know, he is doing, I think when he got in front of Kevin,

Kevin had over a second lead, and you could just watch it. I was watching the highlights back then, and you could just watch it dwindling and dwindling and dwindling. Carlling, until the five got there and beat him. So you know what's going on. You have to figure out a way to counteract that. He should have just shipped him, man. You should have just got there and wrecked him again.

Like if that's your only option, it's either wreck them again or sit there and take what's getting ready to happen to you because it's coming. I think the bigger drama was not what we were talking about on the track. I think the biggest drama of the whole freaking, weekend was after the wreck when those guys started going at it. And I actually loved every aspect of that right up until I saw Jordan Bianchi get confronted by Kevin Harvick for trying to do his job. But again, I don't know what the relationship is between those two guys. And then I saw Jordan Bianchi get confronted by a rando or a random person. T-shirt guy.

I'm trying to find that video because I haven't seen that. We call him T-shirt guy. Jason and I reached out yesterday to Jordan Bianchi and asked him to come on the show. He didn't want to come on show he didn't want to talk about it he doesn't want this story to be about him which i completely respect reached out to josh jones wanted him to come on the show he was he was busy this morning he couldn't come on the show because a lot of people on twitter we're up we're going after kevin saying oh this guy needs this big entourage i wanted josh to be able to explain why there was an i don't think kevin needs that with kevin but he always has one t jay he always has one josh couldn't come on but jason was good enough as producer of door bumper clear to go find

Jennifer Friar, who is somewhat of a huge name with Associated Press, to come on the show. So I think, Jason, you ready to bring her in? Yeah, let's get her on the phone. All right, cool. So speaking of Jordan Biaki, we've got one of my favorite media members who is on the West Coast this morning and got up at 6 a.m. to be able to look pretty on camera for us. Jennifer, welcome to Dorp. Upper Clear for your second appearance on your favorite podcast. Oh, it's my favorite?

Yes. You told me that. So Jenna, before we dive into all the things Bristol related, I've got to ask you this question, because you and I have been going on to these races a long time and watching them a long time. Round one of the playoffs, we had Darlington, we had Richmond, we had Bristol.

Have we ever seen a more exciting round of first round of playoffs, eliminating drivers than what we just watched? Oh, I don't know. I think that's hard to say. You know, yes, it's a good round, but I don't know that you can read them. You know, there's been a lot of playoffs where the guys that you think are supposed to drop out, drop out in the first round, and they're not so exciting. This one was pretty good.

There's been others, but you can't really rate them because the tracks change and the players change and the teams change. But it's been good, and then it was a little explosive the other night. But that was for a win, not to advance. Was there anybody that didn't advance that surprised you? Um, no, no. Um, so McDowell, Amarola, Reddick. Kurt Bush and Kurt. Oh, yeah, Kurt surprised me. Yes, correct. I wouldn't, I wouldn't have picked Kurt. Yes. Yeah, neither will be. All right. So we're going to dive into this thing. It is a reputable media member here in the garage. I have to ask you the question. And we're going, we're skipping the drama with Harvick and Chase. And we're going straight to the drama. with Jordan Bianchi, you put yourselves in his shoes, you put yourself in his shoes, and you're standing there and you're capturing content that you think is worthy in a public space.

How do you handle a driver, especially a driver like Kevin Harvick coming over to you asking you to stop? I probably politely move out of the way. But, you know, I don't know, I probably am a little bit nervous of Harvick's in my face the way it looked like. probably, you know, put the phone down and move away. But, you know, back up a little bit. I don't know if you guys have touched on this. There was actually two media members that I'm aware of that were filming. So there's two different angles. There could be more. You never saw the other person. You can find Nate Ryan's video is from a different angle than the Jordan's. And so I think

that there is a little bit of a difference in their approach, not even from the, television overheads that I ever see Nate in the scrum. So I think maybe if Jordan had not been right there in Harvick's line of vision, it's a little bit. It goes differently. Yeah. So if Harvick comes over says stop, you politely stop. Okay.

Jordan chose not to stop. And he acted like he was going to stop. And then he kind of, well, hold on. I stop in that moment that Harvick asks me. But I probably just move and reset. and resume it. Yeah. So go ahead.

So Jordan didn't move and he resets and he resumes again. And then here comes some random guy in a T-shirt who is credentialed. Freddie and I watched the video last night. We didn't recognize the guy. We saw that he was credentialed, which means that he registered with NASCAR and able to be able to get that credential. As a media member, how do you deal with a fan, what appears to be a race fan, squaring you off and now challenging you and basically,

Clay saying you're not going to video this guy, I'm going to stop you. Yeah, so that's a problem. You know, the media has the right to do their job. Jordan and NBC and Nate Ryan and whoever else was there, they were in a public space. And this person that we're talking about, I assume, is not an official with NASCAR, with SHR, with KHA. I'm assuming, right? And I thought it was pretty hard to get into the garage these days anyway. So now you've got this guy who has cleared, you know, all the protocols to earn access to the garage.

And he just randomly rolls up, you know, Jordan has as much of a right to be standing there as this guy does. And Jordan's doing his job and this guy's interfering. And I've always had a problem. I don't think crew guys should interfere. I don't think NASCAR officials should interfere. If guys want to talk it out and it leaves a shoving and punching or whatever, okay, that's what happens. And when you get that big scrum, I'm like, what are we doing?

Like step back, let them have their peace. So now you've added a random who has access to this. And like, name me one other sport that you can think of where just some random person can just enter into the scene and do. something. So that's my last question. On Tuesday, NASCAR looks over all this stuff from the weekend. They review all the stuff from the weekend. You're not a media member anymore. You're now a NASCAR official in this meeting on Tuesday. Should they identify who this person is and should they penalize, suspend this random fan who essentially squared off on a media member that is, again, like you said, trying to do their job? What would you do if you were in charge? That's a good question.

You know, I reached out to NASCAR yesterday, and I told them that I was alarmed by that aspect of the situation. And because I also don't think NASCAR, you know, there was a NASCAR official at one point in that scene who was kind of pointing at, you know, at media and trying to break it up. I don't think anyone should be doing that. So I sent them a note. I'm expected to hear something today. I haven't heard anything. their response yet today. I don't know.

You're stating my question. You sound like me. Do you identify that guy? I don't know. I mean, you know, you can probably find out. You can ask around and find out. It's clearly someone in the KHA world. You know, he was there with Josh Jones, who you guys haven't asked me about Josh

in that whole thing, but, you know, he was there as well. Yeah. Yeah. So I don't know if you need to identify him. If people really need to know who he is, you can probably find out. Should he be allowed back on an infield this year? No, probably not. Probably not.

But I don't think you do anything to the four team or to Kevin. Definitely not. This guy, this is, I mean, what I'm watching, Jenna, is one guy, no matter his affiliation, I'm watching one guy make the decision to interfere with a media member who is attempting. to do their job in a face-to-face confrontation, challenging that if you don't put the phone up, I'm going to punch you in the face. If I'm a guy. Is that what he said?

No, but if I'm a guy, that's how I take this. If I'm Jordan Bianchi and that guy squares me off, that's how I take this. I mean, that was a big guy. He was a big guy. Yeah. Yeah. Because Jordan's six foot. George's not a small guy.

That was, yes, that was a big guy. I think that I would, you know, it was unpleasant. If it was me and most anyone else, and that, large man, you know, the whole situation. From the minute Harvard comes up to Jordan, I think that you've got, you know, you're in a sticky sensitive situation and you probably should, you know, move or readjust or get out of Harvick's sightline at minimum and chase the sight line. But that doesn't mean you have to go away from the situation. And then that guy interfered and he had no right to interfere. And I believe that NASCAR truly knows that that's correct. I just don't know how they, really fix it aside from telling this guy he can't come back. So I don't know. What if he's a sponsor? So I actually disagree with you guys that I think if you find out, so listen, we reached

out to NASCAR comms last night. They don't know who this guy is. We reached out to Josh Jones. He claims he doesn't know who this guy is. But I think if it comes back that this is a KHA guy or if this is a sponsor, associate sponsor on the four car, there should be repercussions to the forecar for this. Now I'm not saying you've got to take away points. I'm not saying you got to do what, but I remember growing up NASCAR, you know, short track racing,

if your crew member went over and punched a guy in the face, guess what? The driver was getting suspended because he's responsible for the actions of his crew. So now maybe you're not taking points away. Maybe you're not going to do anything on the racetrack, but maybe you lose hot passes. So this happened. And that's a deterrent to teams now. If you can't all of a sudden bring your sponsors in, you know, that's going to make you vet this process more of these people. that you give these hot passes to.

Didn't that happen at Eldora with Bobby Pierce's crew guy? He had to withdraw the first night. Yeah, Bobby Pierce just got thrown out of the world 100 because his crew guy punched an official. Over a four-wheeler rule, but that's a whole other can of one-office. Well, you probably shouldn't punch officials. Yeah. But I'm just saying, I think there's still accountability.

I didn't know that. Yeah, don't do that. I think that if you can trace this back to a sponsor or a KHA, you know, somebody with KHA that was doing this to Jordan, there should be repercussions to that team or to Kevin's deal there, whatever. But I mean, there should be something. Somebody let the guy in, right? Yeah.

You know, somebody had to submit his paperwork. What's the big deal about video? And you're on the big screen, the jumbotron, the track in front of all. So I talked to Josh Jones last night, and now, I guess, is the perfect time to dive into this. We'll let Jenna be a big part of it. So, T.J., I talked to Josh Jones last night, and he essentially said, A, he did not know he was on TV. And B, B, he had a brand new sponsor with Subway there. first debut race.

They're trying to win the race. Obviously, Kevin, he said to me, Kevin was the most upset I've ever seen him, right? That's what he said. And he was, Josh Jones, on his account, said, Jenna, that he was simply trying to de-escalate the situation and keep Kevin from doing anything stupid. I don't know.

Kevin was pretty mad when him and Biffel had each other by the callers. I was going to say I've seen him slide across the hood of a car and try and kill someone before. Yeah, I mean, that's a big, you know, we're talking a big, you know, scale. That's the maddest he's ever seen, he did have those eyes where he was mad, but I don't know if that was the maddest I've ever seen him

in an instance. That dude jumped on Ricky Red's hood. Yes. Like, who messes with the rooster? I asked Josh to come on the show. He couldn't. He had a sales meeting this morning, but I said, hey, what do you want me to tell our listeners?

And that's what he wanted me to tell the listeners. So that's what I conveyed. Listen, for him to say he was trying to de-escalate the situation is absurd. Because the fact that he was standing there with his, you could see him chirping the whole time Chase was talking. You could see the reactions of his, you know, hair going, head going back and laughing every time Chase said something.

I don't know how Chase kept his cool as long as he did. But for him to say he was de-escalating the situation, couldn't be further from the truth. There's a moment where Chase says something to Kevin. And Josh was like, like, you can't even believe. You know, I think that's a little damning to Josh's argument. He was de-escalated. Like, it's not even your, it's not even your argument.

Just let them talk to each other. Like, I have been a business manager before the driver. I have obviously taken a lot of sponsors to the racetrack. And, yeah, I certainly support what Josh is saying he was trying to do. His antics may speak differently. Switching gears. How does Chase Elliott? Hold on, hold on.

Hold on. I don't think that, you know, Josh could have been there, but he also could have been backed up. You know, Mike Arning was there. In the red shirt. Yeah, Mike Arning was there, not his first rodeo with a driver losing his temper. And he's just standing off to the side. It's not his problem.

Josh could have been there. And if things escalated and he needed to step in and grab Kevin, great. But, you know, Josh was right there. You know, he was right in it. And I think that that's the difference. You know, yeah, you want to protect him. and you want to protect your client and your friend. But go back to 2015 was it when Jimmy went over to the bus at Chicago to apologize for whatever

it happened on track and Kevin came out, you know, swinging. Josh was there too. You know, Josh likes to be in the mix. And I think that Josh would admit that. You brought up a great point on Twitter about that on Saturday night. And you basically said, Chase Elliott, this is not over. Kevin Harvick is going to do something to you. Do you believe that still?

I mean, you know, the old Kevin Harvick for sure. I think that, you know, just from not having talked to Kevin much this year, but from, you know, from back at this level, Kevin seems to be a little bit more muted this year, maybe a little bit more calmer. And, you know, I don't know if that's performance related. I do know that something flipped in him when he became a father. He, you know, if you go back to Texas when he shoved Keselowski into that thing with Gordon

that escalated it and turned it into a fight. Yeah. The next week, Kevin, the next week was the Phoenix. And Kevin did not want to do media. He told NASCAR no, he was not going to come in and do the media. And NASCAR was going to let him get away with that. And everybody was like, you know, he can't do that. He's racing for a championship, blah, blah, blah. And Kevin ultimately came and he did the media, and he said that he did the media because he's a father now. And he realizes he needs to set a better example. And, you know, that his actions, you know, have consequences now that his child sees.

So old Kevin Arvick, the guy before who, you know, jumped on Ricky Rod's hood and grabbed biffle by the neck and all, you know, drove his truck up to the doors of the next. NASCAR hauler. You know, that guy, yeah, he's going to get you. He's not going to forget, and he's definitely going to make it hard on Chase every chance he gets, I suspect. Is he going to flat out wreck him? That seems kind of but, you know, who knows? Who knows? Kevin doesn't, he doesn't take things. No, where does Chase get the nickname Clyde from all of a sudden? Why are you guys calling him Clyde? Isn't that his name?

Yeah, that's his name? I don't think many people. people know that though. Or if it's not his name, it's part of his name or, you know, yeah. I think he's been clad for a long time. Yeah, his whole life. Well, thanks for getting up early out there on the West Coast. How was the Indycar out there? I love Laguna Seca.

Hannah was just talking about going there. Yeah, it's pretty nice. It's pretty nice. I think that it's a nice course. It's a really expensive area, so bring all your money. It's a nice course. It's a nice race. It would be cool if you could, you know, try the Xfinity cars out here or something. And it was not, you know, I don't know if you guys know anything about the track. The corkscrew, the famous corkscrew. Well, you had Ramon just like passing cars at will in the corkscrew, including Jimmy Johnson. And we ran off course. And that was Jimmy's best race. That was his best race out of, you know, I don't know, race 11 or whatever he's been in. He had his best most complete race. So. It was decent day. Didn't Grojean wreck the NBC pace car?

Did I say that? Yes. The base car for NBC footage. He did. Who does he drive for? Dale Coyne. Well, he drives for Dale Coyne. He'll be with Andretti next year.

He, yeah, they were doing something and it's not a, you know, it's not a race car. And it's my understanding that the brakes weren't up to what he was, the levels he was pushing it. and when he came in to pit in, he smashed into the tire barrier. And both airbags went off. Thanks for your perspective. Thanks for getting up so early. Get back to the best coast. On that note, you're out.

Safely. Thanks, John. Bye, guys. See you later. So awesome that Jenna jumped on. Hannah, obviously, you're a huge member of the motorsports community media. When you watch that whole thing play out, what was going through your mind? On behalf of Jordan Bianchi.

See, I feel like I get a different performance. perspective because I've been a driver and I've been pissed and I've been in that moment where you just do not want anyone around you to film it. You're in the moment. You're having a conversation with someone. But I always learn if you don't want anyone to film it, take it somewhere it can't be filmed. And they finally kind of obviously took that hint, went to the trailer, figured it out there. So I think Jordan did exactly what he's paid to do. I mean, you're paid there to get insider stories, to get content that no one else has. Everyone's trying to get that next thing. And Jordan did what he's paid to do.

And unfortunately, when you're a driver, you are at the discretion and the understanding if you're in a public space, whether it's race fans, media, whoever, what happens can be and will be recorded. Yeah, that was not cool for whoever got in his face. Let me just tell you this. If he composed himself better than I would have. If anybody gets in your face and Dylan's not around, you just text me and I'll come help you. Okay, great.

She put her phone out and said, what a, Brad will get, yeah, I return to the similar crime. Fred will get on my shoulders and punch that guy. Oh, that was the place. That was Bristol's where you... Seen of the crime. Oh, yeah. Seeing the crime. Moving on.

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certainly back here to the Xfinity race. Austin Cendrix move on AJ Almendinger coming to the checkered flag in the Xfinity series race. Obviously wild. T.J., you can start it. I mean, that's just the guy that got had the race won and got used up and didn't appreciate it and was trying to, you know, I felt like he was pretty angry coming back to the line. And if he didn't have to clear a guy off of two, he probably would have gotten him in the middle of three and four. But he's just trying, whoever wins.

wins that race right there. It's pretty much going to, I think AJ needed to be one other spot back. Otherwise, if he did finish second, does he still win it? Yeah, he won by 10, so. He did? Yeah, but there's a gap. There's what, three bonus points. When he was third, he lost, he was losing, so I don't know if AJ had to win that or not, but. In his mind, he had to win it. Well, it showed. But look, man, that's, that's short tracking stuff. And AJ did what he had to do when he got, when his opportunity came up. When AJ had his opportunity, he took it. Austin felt like that was his opportunity to maybe and if he catches him at the right spot he might still win that race right there you never know so but exciting finish two guys those are the two guys that have

been battling all year and i don't feel like either one of them really left really mad that that mad at each other either i don't i mean i didn't i listened to austin's interview and i knew he was upset but i don't feel like he's carrying a severe grudge you know to the next race or not throughout the championship i go back to when a j amandinger and Austin Cendrick wreck to start the season. And it was a huge wreck with a stage win on the line. And for me, man, that set the tone for this year as to how hard these two guys are going to race each other

and leave it all on the track. And that's exactly what happened. I've got to give a shout out to Austin Cendrick because I watched him come on the scene as a guy who was recognized as a good road course racer and not a guy who was really an oval guy, not a guy that we thought could win an oval race. and here he is an Xfinity Series champion going to take Brad Kuzlowski's spot in the two car.

This guy has probably improved more as a race car driver than any driver I've ever watched in NASCAR history to go from where he was when he came on the scene to where he's at right now. and to go after it all right here coming to the checker. I promise you every crew guy on his team was proud to be on his team because that's the guy he want to go to work for every single day at the race shop, building fast race cars to have him go out there and leave it all in the line to try to win the race. And that's what he was doing. And the show that AJ and Austin and Justin Algear put on at the end of that race was freaking epic.

I mean, I remember like a Dover truck race back. This was when Bubba was racing. So it had to be, you know, 14, 50, Maybe Bubba wasn't racing. I can't remember. But it was like his first year, maybe his first oval start of any kind in that Dover truck for Brad. And he went out there and I was like, this guy is terrible. Like he was seconds off the pace. And I was like, really, they're just going to stick this kid in this stuff because, you know,

if Tim Sindrick, his dad is whatever, the president or something. That would be about 16 or 17. Yeah. So yeah, Bubba probably was gone. But that day alone, I saw him bridge that guy. cap by the end of practice to where he was, you know, the next practice out there, he was maybe a second off or whatever, and then he just continued to get better and better and better every time he ran.

So to your point, yeah, I mean, the marked improvement from where he started to where he's at is incredible. Going back to the race, it just seemed to me like nobody could hold the bottom, you know, AJ goes in there, kind of slides up off the bottom, slides into Austin, then the seven gets to the lead, he goes in there, slides up into Austin, then AJ comes to the checker, he misses the bottom of three and four, let's Austin back underneath them. Just guys going for it. But, you know, my biggest question I touched on earlier was, is it worth the risk?

You know, is it, are you trading five, are you, you're potentially giving Austin? We talked about it. Those are the two favorites. Austin Sanj. A.J. Almendinger, those are the guys that you got circled right now to race for the championship. If AJ goes in there, you know, door slams Austin and spins himself out. Austin goes on to win the race, you just handed him 10 playoff points versus. breaking even if Austin wins the race and you get five for the regular season championship,

you break even. And that could have potentially been a big gap. I just, I'm just not 100% sure it was worth the risk, but obviously it worked out for AJ. Great race either way. Yeah, of course it was Bristol. All right, and circling back to the truck race, Chandler Smith knocks Sheldon Creed out of the lead on the final truck race restart to win in advance to the next round of playoffs. Brett. That's what you're here for. I mean, you're here to win the race. We talk about it all the time, win the race at all cost and you're only going to get one chance to win that race and he did it and guess what she'll get him back somewhere we hope creates drama let me tell you something shelton creed was really

close to the top of my list for one idiot candidates because you come to a restart with i don't know how many to go it was less than five and you decide to take the top lane and give the inside to a guy that is not racing for the win he is racing for his entire season if he wins that race he wins that race his playoffs continue. If he doesn't, he's out. So I don't know how you can give that guy. Obviously, we know the top was preferred on a restart, but if you don't clear that guy before you get to turn one,

guess what's going to happen? Exactly what happened. That was the biggest thing I took away from it. You might not win the rate. We'll just put it back in my control. I was driving home at that point, so I didn't see it. And the other thing I took away from this. That was a hard hand.

hit. Oh, I know. I felt it up on the roof. Listen, if you think that John Hunter let the 18 win at the same token, you can join Sheldon Creed on the What an Idiot list because we talked about how valuable playoff points are. You are not trading five. Listen, he might not be the most popular guy in the KBM shop on Monday morning, but John

Hunter needs to win that race to get those five bonus points to get himself an advantage in the playoffs. Can I contradict you here? try. Because I was on the radio broadcast and we interviewed him post-race and we walked into the interview with John Hunter Nemechek and said basically what happened on those last couple laps. What do you need? I don't know what he said on TV, but on the radio broadcast, he literally said, all I know

is Chandler Smith better be writing me a thank you note and buying me lunch on Monday. And that's what he said. So granted, I wasn't listening to the radio communication. I don't know if he was just pissed. He was pissed because what he was mad about was that they doored each other down the back straight away. So if I'm pretty sure if you're letting the guy win the race, you're not going to race him so hard that you door each other going down to back. If you're letting a guy early, you're not mad. First of all. Yeah. There's no thank you note. You know, it's, Chandler's, he's saying

thank you to Chandler because he should have moved Chandler back and you're not going to do that. That's not something you're going to do to wreck a teammate. That's already leading the needs a win. But you're not, he got loose off a four and let him back by. If he doesn't get loose off a four, he's not pulling over and letting Chandler go by him. There's no way it's not possible. I think he pulled him over. No, I'm just... But that's what people made it. You know, people were like, oh, he just let him win the race.

I didn't see that at all. I mean, John Hunter raced him. He should. I mean, like I said, those bonus points are all you're racing for in that instance, and you cannot afford to just voluntarily give up five of them to go into the playoffs. I don't think we have this type of racing at a mile and a half at a cutoff. You can't. You can't race like, they're not going to be able to get to each other.

By the time you get to turn one, you're already spread out enough to... The Darf tweets. kind of sprinkle during the week. And when any race is over, boy, those Darf tweets just go crazy. You ever notice that? I don't read them. Just shows up exponentially. About three and a half years ago, four years ago, I quit reading Twitter that much.

I can't believe you see any Darfs as many people as you got blocked. I see a bunch of Darfs. I went from, man, you're awesome. You suck. Yeah, you're the worst ever. Listen, and if you don't know what Darf means, you are a Darf. Just letting you know. Oh, I wouldn't say that.

Does anybody in here, does anybody in here not know what it means? And ask that, ask Freddie if you are a Darth. Alex might not know what it means. You really not know what it means? It stands for a dumb-ass race fan. Oh, boy. It's like when you say, like, you know, whatever, like if you're not the, people say, you know, whatever. If you're not the one that thinks everybody doesn't like you or whatever, that's because you're the one.

We need to start a new one to call it Darham. a dumb-ass race industry member because we got some of those out there too. And those ones usually start as Darfs, though. Yeah, yeah. And then they like... There's a few show in their face last week. Keep rolling.

Oh, boy. Yeah, we still have more spot-on, spot off. Okay, we need to go through some 2022 schedule changes, obviously, that schedule. Finally announced a lot of big things. So we'll go through each one of them. Quickly chime in on those. The first one...

I'll just give Brett my time on this because he's the one. Oh, boy. It's like Congress. I give the rest of my time to breath. I give the rest of my time to break on this. I give the rest of my time to the gentleman from Pageland. Congressman from Pagelman, please stand up. Where's the gentleman at?

There's got to be one there. A representative from Pagel in South Carolina has the floor. Yikes. The clash moved to the L.A. Coliseum after 42 years in Daytona. Also sparks the conversation of, is Bristol now still known as the last great Coliseum? We're going to two. Brett, you have the floor.

Man, I was on the fence with this thing when I wasn't fully educated on it, and now I'm all in on it. And here's my number one reason I'm all in on it. Los Angeles is the top market for Hispanic NASCAR fans of the United States, and is the number one market for a fan that's 18 to 34 years old. That demographic alone has so much potential for growth, not only in L.A., but everywhere. So if we're going to go into their backyard and we're going to expand our fan base, what better market to do it in the L.A. L.A. is the largest media market for us in terms of where our total volume of NASCAR fans are at, number two media market in the country, no matter what media you're looking at. So Freddie, was Fontana really, I mean, I saw this debate a little bit on Twitter.

Was Fontana ever really a race in L.A.? No. Not even close. We called it Fonducky, T.J., for a reason. Because it was in the middle of fucking no. nowhere. Yeah, I didn't really, it was a drive away, but it wasn't like we were in L.A. But you needed a helicopter to drive it.

Yeah, because I've driven from L.A. to Fontana, and I don't even want to do that again. Miserable. Two hours. It's probably 35 miles, and it takes two freaking hours. It was not a race in L.A. We're finally in L.A. I want to be at the Mettelands. I want to be in New York. I want to be at Riverhead because of Sond Long Island. Take me to these major markets where all these people are. That's how you get more fans. You're saying we might have stadium racing for us. Could be down the road. I think Meadowlands is in play now. I've been wanting to go to the football stadiums. This is a good idea.

Listen, I'm this. Michigan, the big house. The opportunity that you have here a week in the Super Bowl City, the Sunday before the Super Bowl, a lot of eyes on you. I still wish it wasn't the clash. You know, I still think the clash belongs to Daytona. We can still have an exhibition race and, you know, it doesn't have to be the clash. Still going to be. You're adding a weekend, though.

interesting. Not really. You just run the clash on Tuesday or Wednesday like we did last year. But, you know, it's going to be interesting to see these guys if they can beat and bang. This race is going to be crazy. And super, super, super entertaining, I'm assuming. Yeah, I'm spot on for it, man. Why not?

Why not? What if it turns into be a great race and we want to do more of it? You know, just like, and I do like having the clash at Daytona, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I've always liked it the week before the Daytona 500. I always thought that was kind of a primer with, and it doesn't need to be 30 cars either. I don't care if it's 15 cars, 25 laps, let's go. The best of the best, like it kind of was. I think, though, T.J., given that it's a brand new car, you've got to let all of your franchisees in.

I get it that. If you're a charter member, if you're a charter team, you have to have the right to take your car out there. Here's my biggest question. That's why I'm okay with this year. If we go to Daytona with this brand new car and run it on the Oval, are we going to tear up a lot of cars? Yeah. Yeah, probably.

If we go to the L.A. Coliseum and run this thing on a short track that I've heard they may even try to pour the asphalt fresh. I don't know how that cures and sets up. They're boring right now. But okay, so if we're doing that. That was a picture from before. But if we're doing that, are we going to tear up a lot of cars? Yeah, probably.

But if we do it on a short track to start the season, does it give us the opportunity to make those other short tracks that are coming in the year better. And I think the answer to that is yes, because we've got some real race data, we've got real race examinations that we can do. And I think then when we get to Martinsville, we get to Bristol, we get to Richmond, we can kind of know what we need for these cars to put on a good show.

I also think racing the Coliseum, you're going to have more cosmetic damage than anything else as well. I think you're... And I think that's a good thing. Yeah. If we go to Daytona and tear up a lot of cars, it's not going to change how we run the Daytona 500. It's not going to change the dynamic of the car.

It's not going to change how the car is built. Now, it may change it for Talladega, you know, it's too much down the road, but it's not going to change it for the very race the very next week. I think this science project, and I'm not a freaking fan of our expensive science projects. And when we talk about expensive, guess what's expensive? Leaving freaking Charlotte going all the way to L.A.

That's expensive. It's a lot more expensive than going to Daytona. It's going to be extra days of travel. It's a lot more miles on trucks and all the things. But this science project, I am a fan of this science project. I am. It's a short track.

That's what you want to call. Is it a short, short track? What do you call this? I mean, a cheap science project is about an hour up the road at Bowman Gray Stadium if they really wanted some data. But that's pretty. Don't hold 70,000 people, though. Yeah, and it's going to be pretty cold. We can't race.

Guys, I hear you on Baumagrae. That's not going to worry. If you want to do the all-star race there, I'm all for it, but we can't keep going. Why do you think Rockingham closed? There's too many tracks around here. Why do you think Darlington lost a race the first time? There's too many tracks around here. I mean, it's just, why do you think North Woodsboro went away?

There's too many tracks around here. Where's Bowman Gray? It's right here. I'm not for data. Like, if they're trying to figure out how that stuff. They're going to have enough data after this race. They'll be plenty of good. All right, next one.

Bristol Dirt Race is ran on Easter Sunday at night. Freddie. I don't know. I saw an interview of Ben Kennedy where he was talking about, you know, NBA plays Christmas day. obviously football plays Thanksgiving Day. But the counterpointed, I feel like, is, yes, two of your teams go and play on Christmas Day

or, you know, three games, whatever it is, six of your teams, you know, I think what, there's three games on New Year, you know, you don't take your whole sport and go play on these holidays. Like it don't exist. Yeah, and it, you know, it rotates, so it's different teams a lot of times. But, you know, it's, you know, for me, it's really not, I don't have kids.

I don't have a, you know, just me and Megan, you know, in the dog. John, we got John. He's going to be distraught that we don't get the high Easter eggs this year. But, you know, I just think it sucks for guys with, you know, with kids, these guys, Brett and T.J. You know, you're taking away your day with your family there. So I don't know. I guess you could do a different day. It's just, I don't know.

I just, but not a fan of it. I am a fan that they're going to run it at night, and it's a dirt track versus us trying to run it in the middle of the day. I don't know who made that decision, but they clearly weren't of a high caliber understanding of what it takes to put on a good dirt race. I'm upset that, and this bleeds into the next topic, we might as well combine them. I'm upset that there's only one off weekend because we have built this sport from the ground up and called it a family sport. And that wasn't just for the families that are there tailgating and the families that are there camping all weekend. We treated each other in the garage like families. And when they brought Ben in, I really thought that, you know, him being a younger generation,

generation, him being a France legacy guy, that he would certainly keep down that path. And for us to only have one weekend off all year, it's tough on families because we like to do things with our kids during the summer. We're not a typical sport. You can't compare our sport and other sports in terms of the schedule because we go from February to November. Football is 16 weeks. And like Freddie said, not everybody plays on Thanksgiving. Not everybody plays on Christmas. That's part of kind of their offering for a very few teams. So running on Easter sucks. I'm not going out of you guys, but I have a job to do.

And if I'm got a job to do, if I'm a spotter, if I'm a driver, if I'm a crew guy, you don't have a choice. And guess what? You're going. Does it suck, TJ? Yeah, it sucks. But we don't have a say in what the schedule is. If we voted, I don't think any of us would want to work on Easter Sunday.

But guess what? If your boss tells you to come to work, what do you go to work? Nothing made me more mad than seeing all the fans, like not fans, but people on Twitter that we're like, well, you guys have these great jobs and you guys have an off season, so I don't understand why you guys complain. Like, there's so many people that would like to have your jobs. There is. And guess how many of them would make it? Yeah, and it's still a job. Like, at the end of the day, we're away from our families in homes for. And I'd like to know what they think the off season looks like around here. Yeah, what do they think we do? Because I don't have

an off season. Like, I don't know about you guys. Cup season ends. And I work all the way through Chili Bowl, Rolex. I'm doing arena cross. Like, it doesn't stop. Like, we don't just, That's not what Twitter says. That's not what the Darf's thing. I mean, the guys in the shop, what do they get? I mean, they get maybe a week off between Christmas and Thanksgiving and New Year's. Yeah, there's usually about a week I can't get a hold of anyone. Maybe.

But they're, as soon as we're done in Phoenix, they're thrashing to get ready for next year. You know, they don't, it's not like, maybe Brett does. But when we leave Phoenix, like we don't, I go, like saying this Hannah, I go to the Turkey Derby. I go to the Snowball Derby. We have a bunch of tests this off season for this next gen car. So, you know, it's not like with the season steps, we just all, great, we're done. The reality is the grueling schedule just got even more grueling. This year, we were kind of spoiled by the Olympics.

We had two weekends off back to back. We didn't have practice or qualifying. We're going to have that next year, which is going to add our days. That's coming back, right? And that's good. That's a good thing for the fans. But at the end of the day, it's a grueling schedule, and it just got even more grueling. And here's who I hate it for, the smaller teams, the ones that we give a hard time.

I'm on here a lot of times. Look, it's not the crew guys. It's not the drivers. It is just the model of that particular team. But those teams are understaffed. And now, if those guys go to the L.A. Coliseum, and they tear up some stuff, which is probably going to happen. If they go to Daytona and tear up some more stuff, two weeks later, which is probably

going to happen, when they get to the third race of the year, they're going to be way behind on this new car. And those guys are going to be the ones burning the midnight oil. And it just look, people who are listening to the show, we love our jobs, would quit. But the grueling schedule just got even more grueling. And we don't need your sympathy. We don't need your smart-ass tweets. We're just telling you how it is. I was kind of looking forward to possibly some midweek stuff, you know, race on a Saturday night. Then maybe we're going to have a Wednesday night race. Me too, man, but our ratings suck, T.J. And if the ratings tank, we can't do it.

We've got, I mean, look, man, look at how well SRX did on network television. They were freaking rolling on CBS, man. Their ratings were through the. the roof. We can't put our product on TV and it get 500,000 viewers when SRX is getting 2 million. Then we're not the number one form of motorsports in America and with the Cup series, which we are. We got to keep that title. Another one here, no double header at Pocono. Freddie. Hallelujah. Hallelujah. Pocono is close to my house growing up and we used to go there for the modified race of champions all the time. And so it means a lot of to me, but it would not hurt my...

It never fails, were there five days either. It would not hurt my feeling to see them maybe give up both of their races. Instead of saying hallelujah, we're singing kumbaya to Pocono. Yeah. Here's the thing, T.J., for me, man, I love the doubleheader. I think it's an awesome experience for fans. I think we should have picked another track to do a double header at, like a Richmond, to do a Saturday Sunday and went out there and knocked it out and opened up one of these

other weekends that we didn't open up. but this is part of the evolution of where NASCAR is heading. Pocono lost a race. That's big. We've not seen a company lose a race in a very long time, and Pocono lost a race to St. Louis. So that's where I'm wondering if they get to come back on the back end next year, maybe be the promoter over at the Meadowlands or something.

Yeah, I don't, for some reason, I don't, the Pocono race is just haven't really, they haven't had the same to me anyway. even with the stages there I don't know still kind of this car and the stages just don't really

yeah this package was yeah yeah I don't know like just something just doesn't blend right there I loved whenever you know a guy could pit

everyone does the same thing now we all pit at the same time so if everyone does the same thing nothing cycles yeah it's like a road course you know you can't lose a lap on pit roads so everybody does we all

short pits the stage we all do the same thing yeah you have a a couple guys, yeah, but then they cycle back. So, you know, I mean, it just cycles a couple laps later. So, I don't know. So we're going to segue that too. Then obviously with them losing their date, Gateway is now added to the Cup schedule. Need big generators.

I was to say you better hope that power grid. Where's Jason, when is this gateway race? It's like early June. That's going to be so hot. My biggest concern about this from, and this is my, I think the racetrack is a good racetrack. and but the spotter stand there is tiny. I've never spotted there. It is, it's worse than Darlington.

Awesome. I've never been to gateway. I'm a big fan of watching it on TV. I'm a big fan of that St. Louis Market. I don't think we ever should have left there. I did hear one crazy rumor they were going to put dirt on it. Fred, did you hear that? I heard the same thing.

I heard that when the schedule came out that does not mention the dirt. Same. Same. I was scared to that. That place does not need. to be dirt. I was scared of death it was going to be dirt. And it looked, it was just a rumor. If it was from a good source, a chance

we would have talked about it on here, but it wasn't. And I'm glad the source didn't know what they were talking about. I think we talked about it last week, Britt. I didn't. I did hear that. I mentioned it was like, but I found it hard to believe it. I was hoping to God it was wrong, and apparently it was. Richmond, removed from the playoffs,

moved to a day race in mid-August. We heard Jason was behind this. That's going to be a hot. I thought the race was such good strategy that we're going to keep in the playoffs. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, that'll be a freezing cold day in the middle of August. I mean, I'm okay. Like, I like, I'm hoping that this new car and a nice hot day race will bring back that

Ricky Stenhouse groove through three and four. Is the first race of day race? Yeah, both day race. So no more Richmond night race? I don't think so. That's interesting. So that means a Saturday, that's another Sunday we lost. How many, I wonder how many Saturday rate.

I think I only saw that three or four. I think there's only three Saturday races. That's awesome. Even more, even less time at home. Hey, Richmond, like, unfortunately, we talk about the races are interesting to watch, but they haven't added a lot to the playoff discussion. We saw Kurt cut a tire in wreck last week, but, you know, obviously Darlington played a big part in the playoff shakeup, Bristol this week. What's replacing it?

Homestead. Homestead. So, and Homestead's. later, I think, in the last round, which we love homes. Homestead has always been a great place for us in the playoffs. So it's good to see it back. Good to see Homestead back to playoffs. I know T.J's a fan of that racetrack.

I love that track. I'm spot on for it being in the playoffs. I'm spot on for us going later in the year, you know, by November, October, when it rolls around, it'll still be nice and peachy down there. We can still work on our suntans. It's going to really throw, still throw me off, though, if we go to Homestead and have to go two races after that, you know, like, even last year, like, you're leaving Homestead, like, all right, we're done. Nope, actually, it's the fifth race.

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I'm very curious to know what his drunk slurring sounds like. You should do it on air. I think it sounds the same, Matthew. We've not seen him drunk on fireball. I've seen him have a couple IPAs. And he does... Matthew, I'll brush my teeth with fireball. Actually, what happens to Ward when he gets drunk is he sounds like me.

So he just clears right up. He's got a hint of a long island accent. Now, Fuey. It's weird. Now, Fwetti. Oh, call number two. Marcus Smith. Hey, how are you? Big fan. Hey, listen, you still have time. Just put out the press release tomorrow that says, hey, guys, just an FYI.

There won't be any dirt at the spring race at Bristol. Marcus, you'll literally be the most popular guy in NASCAR. Do you think after tonight's race, somebody's going to be like, what? No dirt? Well, then I ain't coming. Do it, Marcus. You know you want. too.

Marcus, Marcus was there this weekend. I saw him a couple times. Hard to argue with that. I think plenty of people will come to Bristol. Plenty of people will come to Bristol. It's still Bristol. It's the experience.

Caller number three, Jadden. I'm so freaking tired of these idiot crew members getting in the way of damn good moments. I wanted to see if

Harvick was going to throw a punch. Chase found his fucking personality and decided to get all mad and pissy with somebody. And you've got this Hooters idiot. They're holding back Kevin Harvick. Keep them behind the wall. They're not needed anymore.

The race is over. This is bull. Wow. That's how I yell when I have a couple of years. I love the name. Jasmine's a great name, but I mean, that, whatever. I like Hooters. Yep.

They have the Hooters girls there this weekend. Are you talking about? Want some wings today? Chicken? Yeah. It's only place in the world. They advertise wings and sell breasts. That's weird.

Weird. Call number four, Don. Subway sponsorship is what you get when you are no longer freaky fast. Also, I understand that fireball is the mouthwash you use when you're trying to get any fuck out of your mouth. Don, I agree with you. I'm a Jimmy John's kind of guy. I give him the Fireball. I love the Jimmy John's bread.

I do agree that Jimmy Johns is freaky fast. I disagree with you on the second part. Yeah, Brett. It's a mouthwash. Yeah. I mean, that was pretty clever. We're all out. I think that's a bad sign.

That was pretty, thank God nobody to drop anything else off this week. That was pretty clever, though. He's no longer freaky fast, so he has to go to subway. That's pretty good. Call it number five. Oh, hey, Kevin Harvick. You think Dale Jr. Stunted the growth of NASCAR because he didn't win too much?

Let's think about that a little bit and just think about how you're stunting NASCAR just because you're a baby back. Grow a pair, you fucking moron. I think that guy's been in the fireball a little bit. I will say this. I don't think you got to worry about Kevin having a pair. I think he's got a pair. Yeah, man.

People are upset. He didn't take his helmet off. I mean, that's the big thing. He didn't take his helmet off. You ready to rip off some heads, but you won't take off your helmet so you can get fight-faird. Fair fight.

I didn't know that was coming, guys. I don't know, I'm drunk. I don't know. I'm drunk. I thought about, like, you know, him saying, calling. I was like, would it be weird to be called a chicken shit from a guy with his helmet on? Like, is that? But obviously, Kevin is not a chicken.

I wonder what these guys are thinking where, prime example, they're like hammer. And he's like, you know what? I'm going to get on anchor and I'm going to leave a message. Like, at what point does that thought stem? I don't think Kevin's thinking about that at all. I mean, I think he's just trying to get over the. It's the same situation as dumbass with Ryan Newman. He wasn't thinking, like, let me get over there.

Let me take myself off. He's mad. He's running over there to punch Ryan in the head. He wanted to get there. I've seen Harvick face to face with him and Biffle and stuff. And Ricky Rudd, I mean, the dude's not afraid to be three inches from your face and with no hell but eyes. You're in a hurry to get there. It's not the fact that you're scared.

Caller number seven. This message is intended for the parents of chase. Elliot, this is Dr. Travis in the whiny-bitt mental facility in Bristol, Tennessee. We have your son, Chase, here. We're having to give him some memory-lost drugs to bring his memory back, because he seems to have forgotten how he raced for the lead last year. If you could just give us a call back, he seems really out of control, and there's a guy from Bakersfield, California here that's ready to rip his head off,

so he needs some help. He's a d'b-b-and-so is David Starr. So is David Starr. Isn't? Did you guys see Tommy Joe retweet that and go, sorry, not sorry? Yeah. Tommy Joe. Oh, Tommy Joe.

Don't get me started on that again. Save it for one idiot. I can't wait for my one of you. Is this number eight or number nine? Yeah, I know who you're one and he is already. Oh, yeah. Okay. Harvick, I love you, buddy, but you got to take that helmet off when you go marching up there,

okay? It's kind of a bitch move. I'm just telling you. It's kind of a bitch move. Chase tried to take it off for you. And if you come in here, if anybody comes in here talking about that race was boring, because there was no cautions and long green twig runs, go get your sight check, go watch figure skating, okay?

Because that was excellent. My man was doing this during the race. Victory Lane was still going on, and he could not wait to let you guys know. I love it. Yeah. Hell yeah, Jared. I'm back. I was Peyton the girl.

This time was what my dad and Brett are calling the hashtag. DMTJ song What I do TJ looked at the D-A-T-A T-J looked at the D-A-T-A If your car is too slow

Don't know where else to go You just call the spotter for B-K And he will look at the D-A-T-A She's pretty good They looked at the D-A-T-A. I like it, Peyton. Good work, Peyton.

She always tweets at me about how cute my dog is, so I appreciate you, Peyton. She has arguably the best song that we've ever gotten because she tells Jason to get out of Dillner's ass, right? Yeah, Peyton's dad, Jim's been in the hospital with stroke, and he has recovered nicely in his back home, and he's a, he'd never heard of our show. Yeah. And then Peyton wrote the song, Jason made her famous, and now he listens. Yeah, he surprised her, right? Yeah. And I listens every week, so glad to hear Jim's doing better, Peyton.

And love the song. Yeah, that's a good one. Should have been patient, should have just held his line. Elliot's out of the car and he's starting to wine. Because he can't win without NASCAR to help. Elliot going to hell. Why don't you cry? Just go away

Don't you learn to drive like Oh back someday Pessing you If you're on fire I'll pull you out of day Chase Selly Did we ever actually figure out who this guy was? Jeb is going to have

We need to put out a record of Jeb's all Jeb's songs Peyton and Jeb Yeah, the DBC album There was a couple others there There was one or two others that were pretty good too I think Jeb comes in here to record it His quality is just amazing

The fact that this guy does this, usually in 12 hours is amazing. He had an extra day this week. Does he take bookings? Yeah. Hey, Jeb, will you please write a song? Casey does, there's no chance Casey listens to this show this week. Will you please write a song about Casey making a fucking mess? I will send you a check.

I will send you in advance on the song. Please. We need Jeb for parties. All right, guys, we are headed to Vegas this weekend to leave an audio message 24-7. you guys can go to anchor.fm box slash door bumper clear and click the message icon. And of course, Jason will pick the best ones each week to air on the show. Good job this week. Offerpad, question of the week. What do you guys miss most about the home you grew up in? Brett, we'll start with you. Good old Pagel in South Carolina. He misses the giant shed with 4,000 guns in it next door.

That was my neighbor's house. That was not my house. I would have to say probably the thing I missed the most would be we had a big old open air porch and it had a big ramp on it for my sister to be able to come and go in our wheelchair and using that ramp to ride skateboards and bicycles and all the fun things and obviously just being able to sit out there and watch the traffic go down old Cato Street. That's what I miss the most. My house was tiny. Two-bedroom, one bath.

You know, it was me, my mom when I grew up, my brother and my sister all living there. So I don't miss being cramped. But at the time, you didn't know any better. But definitely missed that open airports, which mom has actually enclosed as a sunroom now, and that's where she spends 90% of her time when she's awake. Yeah, I've moved around a lot as a kid, so I don't. What's your fair room, frame?

The fridge. The fridge, yeah. I always go to the fridge and, like, open it and then go back and open it again, like something's going to appear in there. Something new. Oh, wow, look at that. But so one house particular that I remember was a young kid. We had a huge hill next to our house.

So we used to like me, John, my cousins, we would all line up like a big wheel race down the hill and just destroy each other. So that was a lot of fun. I remember that. I'd probably have to just roll with my bedroom, man. I mean, there were so many bottle rockets and stuff lit off in that bedroom. Things lit on fire. It's like bottle rockets off in his bedroom.

That's a good idea. That was stupid. I know. I don't really wreck it. But it is that. That's exciting. Well, you guys can get a cash off. on your home today with our presenting sponsor of offerpad.com.

Time to get into our Xfinity X-Fi more than fast moments. You need more than just speed to compete in NASCAR. So where did we see teams need to be more than fast this week? I'm going to get my X-Finity X-Fi more than fast moment to Chandler Smith. Guy late restart, had to lay it on the line, needed a win to get in the playoffs, and he got it done. So congratulations, Chandler Smith. Here's what my guy had the time to do. in a very fast moment.

He had time to park his car, take his helmet off, get out, run over to a competitor he was upset with. And my X-Finity X-5 more than fast moment is how fast Chase Elliott got his finger in Kevin Harvick's face. I have never seen a person get a finger in somebody's face that fast and hold it there for that long. He definitely deserves this week's more than fast moment, T.J. Who you got? My X-Finity More Than Fast Moment, I liked that 22 car on Friday. Friday night, but I got to give it to the guy that got the opportunity and took the moment and won with it. A.J. Almondinger. Big win. Fun race. We like it fast here on door bumper clear, but what we really like is being more than fast.

Thankfully, man, there's always tons to talk about for the Xfinity X-Fi more than fast moment. Do you know what else is more than fast? X-Finity X-Fi. With the speed for all your devices, you also get reliable performance that you can depend on to keep your crew connected. On the track, being more than fast means you've got the teamwork and strategy that it takes to win. With Xfinity X-Fi, you can do more of what you love with faster internet and a powerful and secure connection. Follow at Xfinity Racing on Twitter for even more Xfinity X-Fi more than fast moments and don't forget to vote for your favorites. Thank you to Xfinity, a proud premier partner of NASCAR. Hey, what's up, DBC fans? If you haven't heard about Anchor, it's the easiest way to make a podcast. Let us explain.

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That's A.N.C.H.O.R.F.m.F.m.F.m.F.m.m. All right. Time for what an idiot. Also, I know a lot of people yell at me not at me, but make the reference of what an idiot this weekend at Bristol. So appreciate it all of me. by any chance? I did not hear TJ sucks, believe it or not. They're not going to... Somebody did yell Brett's and a shit at me though. Well, that's not a lot.

That probably happens often. I hear that all the time. Funny, we get the same thing. It's usually our wives that say that. Well, fair. So this week's What an Idiot Award goes to and Bright, you can start this. My What an Idiot Award.

And look, I almost gave it to the guy who doesn't even know how to throw a water bottle in the truck series race because he looked like an idiot on TV, and God bless him, right? Bless his heart, if we're going to say what we say in the South. But my what an idiot award has to go to the guy who ran across the gasoline on the racetrack and proceeded to bust his ass. I'm glad he's okay, but what an idiot.

Do we know he's okay? Because he probably got broke ass like you did. Wow. They literally said that he made some statement about how he was perfectly fine. His dignity was just hurt pretty bad. I can understand that. They should have just lit it on fire. Gas is slick.

But it burnt for a second. Yeah. go ahead t j i got a long one if you got to pop anybody in there real quick uh my what an idiot you know i really would like just to follow it up with del junior again but uh my wouldn't idiot is going to go great now we're going to have a headline next week dale tj majors calls dale junior an idiot my what an idiot is to all the people that really think there's a beef here because they obviously have not listened to us for 10 years on the radio because that was nothing and you know um honestly i know going into them races that he's

he's going to get fresh with that's just his personality in the car and it does it goes in one or out the other but you know if you uh decide that that's a headline article thanks for the um thanks for the popularity and stuff for it and uh yeah i really shut him up didn't i i showed him who the boss was so my one idiot has been probably what two weeks in the making now uh more than that i mean i mean this guy's been an idiot for a while but he he so he's been growing had a little And I normally, nobody in this world gives T.J. Majors more grief than me and Brett Griffin probably, I would say. Maybe Dale. But this is one time that I'm actually going to stick up for T.J. And he might have called somebody out on the radio and it turned into a little Twitter spat where this guy literally probably retweeted T.J. just in hopes that we were going to talk about him on the podcast. And guess what? Congratulations. You're going to make the podcast this week. because Dawson Cram is an idiot. Like, we're out there racing on Friday night

or Thursday night with the truck race. And he gets the Lucky Dog. And he proceeds to, as soon as the yellow comes out, we all know the situation. They call out, 41, you're the Lucky Dog. They don't send you until Pit Road opens. No, when Pitt Road opens, you know how that is.

When the pit road opens and the leaders are coming down Pit Road, they say, okay, now Lucky Dog, you can pass the pace car. Well, as soon as they say 21, you're the Lucky Dog, or 41-year Lucky Dog, he takes off. and passes the whole field, which is idiotic. And they are like, hey, stop the 41. You don't go to East End you. Stop the 41.

He proceeds to continue on and drives right up by the face car. Okay, that's check one. Strike two, where he's on pit road, we're watching him. He's right in front of us. Just got the lucky dog. He had just gotten a lucky dog. Oh, I think the first time, this, yeah, maybe the first time. Didn't he pin on the wrong lap, too?

So he pits on the front stretch where he's right in front of us, and we see him, and the pace car is coming off a four, and he drops the hammer, Hall's ass off pit road, clearly speeding to beat the pace car of pit road. So, Brad, they dropped the jack and he's behind the pace car. He speeds up way faster down pit road to beat the pace car. You're not allowed to do that. So it's a one-lap penalty for doing that, which you should know already, but maybe he doesn't. You and your spotter should know.

Yeah. So he proceeds to dig on. So now we waste two laps trying to get him to serve his one-lap penalty. Fast forward to the next caution, where he does the exact. the exact same thing. Speeds off pit road, drives by the pace car, takes off, all right, 41,

once again, you're now going to get held a lap because you sped off pit road to beat the pace car. We waste another two or three laps. He's not done yet, boy. He is not done yet. I mean,

I mean, there more to it because I couldn't even remember it all. Oh, and the end. Yeah, I guess the very end. So he, they wreck. There's a wreck on the backstretch, and here he comes. He's now, after we have wasted at least six laps waiting for this guy to stop on the racetrack

to get the laps back that he has cost, you know, sped off pit road. He comes piling into a wreck on the back stretch when he was running last just after getting the lap penalty. Hey, guys, hold up. Don't unbuckle. Listen, small team, whatever. He tears up a lot of equipment for a guy that, you know, cries about little help in the shop and not a lot of money behind him.

We talk about this with Bodie. Brett's nine-year-old kid playing baseball. I can deal with any physical error in the world. If you make a mental error, that's on you. And the awareness of this guy had to commit the same penalty twice, not know when to pass the pace car and a lucky dog, not know how to serve your penalty after you get it. We've got to waste 10 laps around a short track waiting for you to serve your penalty.

Guess what? TJ was right, buddy. You're an idiot, and congratulations. Here's your award. I think you just won what an idiot for the year. Yeah, you've been saving that one up for a while. Oh, it happened on Thursday. Actually, I saved the Dell Dream one up for a while.

I stayed it up so long. I got headlines written about it. I just know he wanted to be on the show, so I want to congratulate him. He finally made it. Oh, boy. All right, we got to do our playoff picks. What four cup drivers you guys think are going to be eliminated after the round of 12, which we conclude at the Roval?

Who's going first? I got three. I didn't pick a fourth guy last up, but I got three of them. You can go first then. Better than T.J. T. Did you pick two last time? T.J. picked the two obvious ones.

I will say this week, this time I'll take, I'll take Bell to not make it. I'll take Brad to not make it. I will take one of those two hens your cars to not make it. 24, 48. I would say probably the 48. I'd say 48 to 20. And where are we going? All right, try here.

Let's just read the bottom. It'd be good. That's the thing, man. Vegas, who's been good there? Chevroletes and Toyotas puts the fords in a bind. Talladega, we know how good the forge are there. They work together exceptionally well, and then the Roval. So, I mean, we've got three really difficult racetracks here.

I'll go 48 to 24. I'm going to have to say Harvick doesn't make it. And look, he's good enough to make it, but they don't have speed on a mile and a halfs. Anything could happen at Talladega. If you have two bad races, you're out. Same thing for the two. I just feel like forger at a disadvantage, and I think this weekend may put them all in a hole.

Joy Lugano's won with T.J. majors, mind you, at Las Vegas, back in 2019, but I just don't know if Ford's have the speed. I'll throw him in there, the 22 as well. And then if Harvick's not going to make it, maybe Chase Silley won't either. You're not going to – did we win in 20 as well? You don't get credit for that one, sorry? Yeah, 20 and 19. Congratulations.

One of them you qualified, like, terrible in one. I remember that one. That was like 19. Yeah, we drove to the front from like 20th or something, 25th or something, maybe further. Still got fired. I know. Four, 20, 24. And someone up here is going to have an issue at some point.

They are. That's why I went with a nine. We're going to have a surprise not making guy. Yeah, and I feel like the nine is going to be good enough. The 48's just kind of been there, but I'm going to go 24 and 48. Wow. The reason why I left the nine out is he's going to win the roval, unless Harvick wrecks him. 48, 24, 20 in the four. All right, we've got to do this for Xfinity as well.

So you guys need to pick your four Xfinity series drivers who are also. This is not hard. It would be a little easy. This is not hard because, well, I'm a big fan of Jeremy Clements. I think he's a super good guy. I think he gets a lot out of what he races with. He's not going to make it unless there's a huge wreck of Taledega, which is very possible. and then the three guys in front of him

like to crash like let's just be honest they like it they enjoy it Brandon Jones is on his 47th spotter now hopefully they got that figured out Mayett Snyder has a lot of speed a lot of times he's had a lot of speed a lot of times

Hey what was Mayett and Jeb's deal I think Mayette was Mayer a way Jeb raised him in three and four and he hooked him getting into one purpose and I don't know that I think they spoke I don't know who admitted to what I watched it go down I've not seen a replay, but to me it looked like Maya was pissed. And he hit Jeb and kind of ruined, obviously ruined Jeb's night.

But man, if you're Mayatt, you don't want to go into this thing making enemies. I do think that two car has speed. The NASCAR Xfinity Series silly season is getting ramped up. I would expect, obviously, Neutronag Solutions announced this week. It was announced this week. They didn't announce it that they're not coming back. Next year, I think that's probably the first domino to fall to create a lot of driver dominoes. And I think you're going to see a lot of drivers moving.

and I think you're going to see some new drivers. Let me rephrase that. You're going to see some old drivers with new money getting into big-time rides. And I think the fans are going to like who that is. I think so, too. With some of those guys that are out there with pretty large wallets. And look, it's not Daddy's Money guys. These guys have gone out and found their sponsorship, and it's a good thing, right?

So, I mean, I think Freddie's right. I mean, Riley Herbst, he hasn't had speed, and he wrecks a lot. He's in last year's championship car or championship. contending car and man they just can't pull it together they can't put races together right now that makes it tough brandon jones does wreck a lot always has and and and look if we if we pick one that's not going to make it that's in the top 10 i'm not going to say jeb burton because we work with a guy so i'm going to go with daniel hemrick just because he can't ever get things to go his way so if if he's going to have his bad luck continue then he's not going to see round two i'm going

the 51 I'm going Clements, Riley, Maya and Daniel. But the reality is in this series, even more so in the Cup Series, is you cannot stump your toe at Vegas. If you go out and put yourself in a hole, you cannot go into Talladega expecting to dig yourself out.

Where Maya win at? Homestead. We don't, he won very early on a late race restart. But when we go with the Cup Series to Talladega, the race gets segregated by manufacturer once we start pitting under green and everybody just wants to survive till then the xfinity series doesn't really do that the collard cars obviously have a great history of working together

but we don't ever really break the race up so if there's a wreck at any point there's a strong chance you're going to be it if you stump your toe at vegas and your seventh or back in this exfinity series playoff you're in big trouble do you know who's 13th in points in the playoff standings in not in exfinity in exfinity man i don't know but i would guess Landon Castle. How about Ty Gibbs with 14 races? Wow. Did you just look that up? No, I mean, I saw it the other night after the race was over. Somebody had pointed it out to me. Yeah, that race, like they were showing the points and there wasn't a race for, you know. Well, and there was until Michael Annette started having his problems.

Yeah. And he obviously took himself out by default. I mean, there was a race for that top 12. Once that happened, once a couple of those other smaller teams started having trouble, it was pretty much over. All right, we still need to do our DBC picks. Brett wins at Bristol with his Kyle Larson pick. So that means the score is now 14, 10, 6 with Freddie leading, Brett and second. T.J. just sucking. I got two wins in the playoffs. We should have went with T.J.

System where you get bonus points if you picked a race winner. So it says T.J. Apparently, you have officially been eliminated contention from championship contention for the 47th straight year. He was eliminated. He was eliminated Dayton. I can still beat Brett. All right, so you get to pick first, TJ. You can still make me not beat Freddy is what you can do.

Wow. You're not going to beat me anyway. Yeah, what's it worth to you here? Was it worth anything? No. I mean, I can pick Quinn if you want. I mean, I can take Quinn. I mean, let me just tell you, man, Quinn's looking good.

Smithley's been a rocket lately. I'll take Larson. No, yeah, I'm taking Larson. Screw it. I'm next. I will take. You can't take who I want, so I'm not worried. Alex Bowman.

Mark Truex, Jr., Jr. MTJ. Yeah. Byron's been good there lately, so. In Vegas? Yeah, he was pretty decent. Larson was pretty good there. First race there, I would say.

With this package. Freddie would be good in that five car. Freddie was in the five. I can't get in the five. Well, maybe. The windows. We've got to put that SRX door on. We'll put the roof hatch in.

That is the, I mean, I love the, RX series. That is the dumbest thing in the entire world. That stupid two-inch little slot that like none of them can't not get in a race car. Like I get it, but like, come on. Shout out to Jenna Fryer for jumping on a day all the way from L.A. Shout out. Shout out to Jordan and Josh for declining to jump on. Man, you touched on a bow jangled, Brett. You touched on a little bit there. I'm excited for some of these Xfinity driver announcements. You know, what you talk about? Hey, you guys already got shit on last week for announcing people's stuff. So just don't.

did. I don't think that's all the was like this guy doesn't understand that I mean we could announce at least three deals right now if we really wanted to. I'm going to say it's like I like there's there was conversations happening in the media center of like we know where people are going that haven't been announced yet like it's just you're having fun with teasing people nobody announced anything. Get your panties out of a while. What guy? What guy you talking about? Sheldon Creed's going to have a great teammate. Let's start there. Yeah. Yeah. Right. I mean I mean people are going to be very happy to hear about that. I don't tell me.

I don't know. I couldn't tell you. I couldn't tell you. But I mean, just there's two guys. I don't know. I stay out of it. There's two guys in particular

that I can think of that if they get the rides they should get, people are going to be very happy about it. Hey, when's that Exfinity schedule coming out too? Do we know? Don't get him started, please.

I mean, I don't know. I got to go. We got to Rob Finlay. No, I would think it mostly mirrors this cup schedule, right, other than a road course or two. It's got a mirror a lot of it. Mostly does.

I mean, the rumor was they weren't going to go back to mid-Ohio. They were going to go to Canada. I mean, there were some rumors out there. CTMP is so much fun. That's one of my favorite trips. Yeah, I mean, the problem is, though, like, you... Canada? You start moving.

Here's the problem, people, with the schedule. Mossport. Mid-Ohio for Colleg Racing is their biggest market. Rocky Boots there, huge sponsor for Jed. Obviously, Matt Colleg's there with Leaf Filter. I mean, there's a lot of Ohio-based companies that do a lot of thing with Matt Colleg. So if you move that race, it has sponsorship implications with one of the hottest teams right now in the sport. But the challenge is if they don't know, they don't know. So, like, tell them

so they can make plans. And going back to Canada is awesome. I'm all for it, man. I wish we were racing in Canada several times a year. It's so bummed that trip got canceled the last few years with the trucks. I love the country. I love the racing. We used to go to Montreal. It was insane the amount of people that came out. That was a very fun event. Imagine if the Cup series went for that. It would be absolutely. Epic. But no, I mean, look, reality is, Realty is the cup schedule's out. I would imagine that it pretty much mirrors the cup schedule for the majority of it. But man, it's just really late in the year, guys.

Really late in the year. All right, guys. You want to announce anybody or should we skipping over you, Freddie? Just tune in next week, guys. All right, thanks, everyone, and our great presenting sponsor of Offerpad. Thanks for everyone for listening. If you enjoyed the show, you could tweet at us, tell us, leave us a rating, and review on Apple Podcasts.

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