Door Bumper Clear - 232 – Talladega II: A Dream Come True

Episode Date: October 6, 2021

The celebration is on as Bubba Wallace and Freddie Kraft won their first career NASCAR Cup Series race on Monday afternoon at Talladega Superspeedway! Freddie has survived the ongoing celebrations and... is coherent enough to talk us through one of the biggest days in his career. Plus, Brett Griffin and T.J. Majors are back from Alabama too and share their takes on the tripleheader of racing.After a special entrance into the Bojangles Studio, Freddie is surprised by his friends and family leaving heartfelt congratulations messages for him to celebrate the big win. After shedding a few tears, the guys breakdown how the No. 23 team won that race. With rain approaching in Monday’s postponed Cup Series race, every lap could have been the last one. T.J. explains what he was telling Brad Keselowski as he battled up front and Freddie shares the details behind the information he relayed to Wallace. Find out how each of them felt about the winning block that the No. 23 car made to seal the deal. Then, we hear about some of the shenanigans from the party that ensued afterwards.History was made at Talladega all weekend long, including each race producing a first-time winner. Hear how the guys felt about the Truck Series finish. Plus, find out what Talladega track president Brian Circhton said to the fans about what a winning vehicle at Talladega should look like.Saturday’s Xfinity Series race was called early due to darkness. How did that happen? Who was responsible for the deciding the start time? What can be done differently to avoid that in the future? And who was technically leading at the time of caution? Get these answers from the crew.Despite a break in weather late Sunday afternoon at Talladega, no attempt was made to run the race due to NASCAR’s policy of only starting a race if the full distance can be run. Is it time to revisit that policy? Hear the guys explain their ideas on what can be done to get as much of the race in as possible on Sunday.The Charlotte Motor Speedway ROVAL is next on the schedule and playoff eliminations loom. The gang dives into the points drama heading into the Round of 12 finale. Find out what drivers fighting for their championship hopes might have to do on Sunday to stay alive and why it could be chaos.Jimmie Johnson is completing a rookie test as he eyes an Indianapolis 500 start next season. Should the seven-time NASCAR champion attempt to compete in such a dangerous race this late into his career? The guys weigh in.A race winning edition of Reaction Theatre did not disappoint this week. Calls include one from Brett’s fan club, another Cup spotter giving Freddie’s babysitters advice, and a new song from our friend Jeb. Plus, the fans are pumped up after seeing Freddie and Bubba win. Lastly, a rap blows the gang away.Stay tuned for later in the show when Brett makes a big announcement. Want more DBC? Check out and subscribe to the new DBC YouTube channel! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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Starting point is 00:00:20 Hey, what's up everybody? Welcome to Door Bumper Clear presented by the best sponsor in NASCAR OfferPad. We've got a big show today. We're celebrating Bubba Wallace and Freddie Craft's first cup series victory. Plus, we'll discuss Bubba blocking Brad Keselowski. Three first-time winners at Talladega.
Starting point is 00:00:37 What a truck should look like after a Talladega race and plenty, plenty more. Jason, Blake, let's get this thing started. Nobody's listening, but I don't care. I'm on an episode of Door Bumper Clear. Dillner's like what? Way to blow your wad, Jason. Dillner, what's wrong with yours?
Starting point is 00:01:10 Dillner, yours won't shoot off. Dillers can't get his gun to go on. Oh, there we go. And Dillner join the party. Congratulations. The P.D.A. is really for me because I'm hoping you sober up during the show. Freddie, it's all over you.
Starting point is 00:01:26 I know. Who's going to clean that mess up? We know Casey ain't good at that. Nope. Did you guys start without me? We haven't really started yet. You are covered in confetti. We were waiting on your Uber to get here.
Starting point is 00:01:38 Look at this cool ass hat I got you for winning. I appreciate it. Number one. Yeah, you have to work for those beads, right? I need to get my mic a little higher. Hey, everybody. I'm T.J. Majors. Spotter of the two-cup car, the one truck.
Starting point is 00:01:58 And welcome to the Bojang. studio with this winner. What's up everybody, Brett Griffin, spotter for Colleg Racing and for the first time in history. I'm the third most popular spotter on this show. The guy who this time doesn't even need to introduce himself. I introduce him as race-winning cup spotter. I'm loving it.
Starting point is 00:02:20 McDonald's. Mr. Freddie Crave next on stage. That's funny you said that because I got a funny video. I got to show you by being on stage. But, yeah, so a wise man once told me you can't be hung over and drunk at the same time. I think that was me. Yeah, I'm sure somebody's smarter than you told you. Yeah, he said, wise man.
Starting point is 00:02:42 So let's just get the party back started again, I guess. Party hasn't stopped. This is first time I've seen Freddy. I called him as soon as they call the race. I know. It's the first time I've actually seen it. Brett's got me crying. I almost ran over like six pedestrians trying to get to the infield.
Starting point is 00:02:56 But, yeah, I mean, obviously unbelievable. We'll talk about it all show. but, you know, what's up, Casey? Hello, everyone. This is Casey Boat, your DBC marketing professional. And, of course, we can't forget confetti popper, Jason. Yes, congratulations, Freddie, Jason Schultz, Dirtymo, producer. And we have a special intro to celebrate your big victory.
Starting point is 00:03:16 So, everybody, turn it up loud. Sit back and relax and let's celebrate. I said it's raining like you. Yep, I like you. Definitely picking up over here. We'll see. Right now, the race would be official if this race didn't continue. Rain, it, raining, raining.
Starting point is 00:03:37 I better be shaking all y'all's at down there for this rain dance. Bubble Wallace, when the caution came out was in front of the field, the rain started then right away. Say every prayer, you know? It's official. Bubba Wallace gets his first career win. Michael Freddy, it's Bobby. Freddie, it's your favorite sister here. My man, Freddy.
Starting point is 00:04:06 Can't believe it, dude. I'm so proudy. Congratulations, Freddie, Bubba, and the entire team. Freddy, you cheater. Hi, Freddy. Congratulations. Hell yeah. Winner, winner, McDonald's dinner.
Starting point is 00:04:17 My good friend, F and Freddie, is finally. And I do mean finally a winner at the cup level. Congratulations, Freddie. I think all those hours you directing me to close restaurants in Pennsylvania led you up to this moment. Congrats, man. What's up, guys? It's John Kraft.
Starting point is 00:04:32 Just wanted to say congrats to my brother, Freddie, Bubba, the entire 2311 team. We all knew this day would come. It was only a matter of time. Fred, it's dad. Just calling and congratulate you guys on that big win. Team villain. Team Hero here. Just sending you a message to congratulate you and your team on your first win in the cup series. Hey, Freddie. Congrats on your first cup win. It's a pretty big deal.
Starting point is 00:04:54 Congratulations, Freddie and Bubba on your win at Talladega. I can't explain how proud of you I am. And I know this is a dream come true for you, but it's also a dream from true for all of us who love you. Hey, babe, Moses and I just wanted to say congratulations on your win. Congratulations. Come a long way from a Red Raceway. Congratulations, buddy. You did a hell of a job wheeling that thing from the spotter staying yesterday.
Starting point is 00:05:15 Just want to congratulate you and Bubba and the 2311 team on the win. I'm so happy for you guys and for all of the fans to finally get that win. Hey, a... Remember back in 2004 at least Speedway? Who knew way back then that one day you would be a winning spotter in the Cup series? Certainly not the 8X team. I mean, all it took was having me on DBC. last week to make it happen.
Starting point is 00:05:39 I think now we can get Brett to realize that you are not the liability that we all know, I mean, that we all thought you were, and actually let you work this. Finney races next year, too? It's about time you want to race. I was pooling for you. We are so very proud of you. A job, very well done. We would say we can't wait to celebrate with you, but I think we're a little too late for that.
Starting point is 00:06:00 But to get that first win at Talladega and right in front of T. That's pretty much a dream. It doesn't get much sweeter than that. I'm super proud of you guys. Congrats on your first win. I know what this means to you. Freddie, congratulations. Isn't it wonderful? If you open your eyes while you're spotting, look what happens. You win a race. Congratulations. Grandpa, I blew it. Say you're not sober enough and you can't make it there or to Martinsville.
Starting point is 00:06:26 You can let your good-looking wife stop from me at Martinsville. I'm sure she'd yell at me less and be a lot nicer to me. I'm just happy now that my Sundays are going to be a little bit more freed up. since you're never going to let me watch another cup race again. Well, seriously, though, I'm extremely happy for everyone at 2311 racing, but I'm especially happy for my good friend, F and Freddie. Also, shout out to me, making it to work this morning. That's pretty impressive in its own right. It was impressive.
Starting point is 00:06:55 And on to the roval. Good chance at back-to-back wins, I think. Lava really excels at road courses, so let's get it done. We love you and we are so proud of you. Congratulations. Well-earned, well-deserved. Congrats, my friend. Holla.
Starting point is 00:07:10 Can't wait to celebrate when we get to see you. Thanks for solidifying that I will always read Freddie Crafts Little Suspick. Love you. But we love you and we're so proud of you. I'm so proud of you and you have showed me that dreams really do come true. Once again, I must say, mom doesn't always know best. Love you. Congratulations.
Starting point is 00:07:32 And I'm so proud of you, Fred. What excitement when that announcement came that brother won this club break. I can imagine how you both felt a dream come true. History was made. Love you and proud of you, Grandma. That's awesome. You guys are all that. Everyone is.
Starting point is 00:07:52 Did I see a few tears? Yeah, probably. I think John stole the show on that. Oh, yeah. If John knew the wind was coming, why didn't he tell the rest of us? Yeah. John did a good job right there. I'm telling you what.
Starting point is 00:08:03 When he got, we might have got home a little late Monday night, Sunday, or Tuesday morning, I guess it was. And when I heard him get up and go to work, I was like, this is a miracle today. He went 10 years not working. He should be rested up. That is true. Pretty cool to hear from all those people, man.
Starting point is 00:08:23 How awesome is that? Yeah, there's a lot of guys in there. I know family, obviously, guys I used to work with. My mom's talking about. So when I was 17 or 18 years old, like the Long Island Real Real estate, road is like one of like everybody almost works there you know what I mean I'm like if it's like one of them jobs where you know you're going to work 30 years retire pension all this deal and
Starting point is 00:08:46 I had an opportunity to go work there when I was like 17 and my mom's like oh you got to do it and I was like well no they want me to work on Saturday and I can't because we got to go to the track on Saturday and she's like what you're no you don't you're not throwing this opportunity away to to go to the racetrack like that's not going to happen well I was like well guess what I am And I said, this is what I want to do. So I'm going to chase it as long as I can. And I'm sure that real, road job might be there in 10 years. It just don't work out.
Starting point is 00:09:12 But if I don't make this change now, I'm going to, I'll regret it. And so I get to throw in her face every once in a while when big things like this happen that moms don't always know best. But, yeah, thanks to everybody that called in there, obviously. Big weekend, big day. This celebration continues on. I hope I maybe never went again. And didn't you say Bubba's birthdays this week, too? Yeah, Bubba's birthday's coming up, so that'll be another party.
Starting point is 00:09:38 Might as well just keep it going. Yeah. We've got to be ready for Saturday. That's it. Once I'll get back on track for Saturday. How late you stay up? Because I know how late you stay up on a normal night. How late you stay up after a big win like that?
Starting point is 00:09:51 I think we got pretty close to see in the sunrise, from what I recall. Bubba didn't quite make it as long. I want to say he was probably in bed about 3 o'clock. He needed to go to bed at about 3 o'clock. I got home. So the funny part is I go home. Megan drives me home and my phone rings and it's my dad at like 3.30 in the morning and now I'm on the phone with him for God knows how long. And Megan's yelling at me from downstairs from upstairs to shut up because she's trying to go to sleep. It's it was a night that won't soon be forgotten for sure. Well, I think everybody should tweet Megan and make sure she's okay because I think she's the real MVP on this one. for a long week. She's had a rough one.
Starting point is 00:10:34 We went to, we went, obviously, Bubba's when we landed. We were at Tyler Young's party last night. Them guys, he had told me before our race. He's like, hey, man, I'm having a party on Tuesday come by, you know, because actually Tyler Young and Brandon Brown are out of the same shop. So they were having one big party over there. So I was like, yeah, I'll come by. And then after we won, I was like, well, this is we just added it to the celebration,
Starting point is 00:10:54 I guess. But it was, it's been a crazy week so far. And I've got a feeling today's not going to get a whole lot better. Not today's going to get worse. I mean, you literally Ubered here. So I Ubered here because I know what the post event show is going to be like today. I witnessed it. He definitely got Ivan and Uber.
Starting point is 00:11:13 Judging by the shirt, I thought it was bright at first. Responsible driving right there. That's it. Big, big win, man, big popular win on social media, big buzz for the industry. I have to admit one thing, and I'll say it with TJ sitting here. I'm watching the race. So let me clear one thing up for all you clowns out there that think you know. everything about how racing works. When a rain shower is headed toward the racetrack or is popping up at
Starting point is 00:11:42 the racetrack and we're past halfway, our crew chiefs and engineers alert us that, hey, you could be racing for the win. It's probably going to rain and we don't know when. So literally, every lap is treated like the last lap. Every corner is treated like. like the last corner. Now listen, if we're at Pocono and this is playing out and you're running fourth, there's not a whole hell of a lot you can do about it because it's hard to pass at Pocono. We're not at Pocono. We're at Taledega. You can be running 12th and two laps later lead the race. So you're basically saying, hey, you 20 plus guys that are left in this race, you're on a timer and we don't know when the bomb is going to go off, but this could be it. So at that point in time,
Starting point is 00:12:28 every single one of us are literally balls to the wall racing, A, to get the lead, and if we can get the lead, to stay in the lead. So as all of this is happening, you have to realize, man, these crew chiefs come over the radio and they say, it's going to rain. Well, your heart rate is a spotter. It goes up. And then guess what you have to do? You deliver the message to the driver. Hey, guys, it's going to rain. We got to go right here.
Starting point is 00:12:52 Their heart rate goes up. And you go from running at 100% to 110%. Literally, you're giving it everything you've got. But I'm watching this play out, and I'm watch Bubba get the lead. And look, man, the 11 and 20 were super aggressive on the bottom pushing. And when I say pushing, TJ, I don't mean like pushing each other. I mean they are hitting each other so hard. It's just boom.
Starting point is 00:13:13 And then they shoot out, right? They get these major runs. But I'm watching Bubba get the lead. And coming through 3 and 4, I see the Penske cars get hooked up tandem. And I'm literally saying to myself, better watch the top, better watch the top. And I'm watching Bubba stay low. And I'm like, uh-oh, he's getting ready to give us race up. then they start coming, start coming.
Starting point is 00:13:31 I'm screaming out loud. I'm not even near for any, thank God. I'm seven people down from, block the top! Block the top! And I finally see a move up at the last minute. He blocks the tops, picks the lead up. I thought that was personally probably the move that won the race. Because at that point, T.J.
Starting point is 00:13:45 I'll kick this thing to you. We don't know when the race is going to end. We get a run. We're trying to take it. We're trying to all get to the lead. And then obviously when they wreck, boom, that stops the race. Then it starts raining. But to all you people out there, and I feel like our,
Starting point is 00:13:58 fan base and our people who listen to this podcast are fairly educated. We are racing with everything we've got at that moment in time. Yeah, I think to me, we were still, we were, the wrecks were ultimately so to race a little, and I thought it was a little early for us. Brack probably, Brad could have taken his run to the bottom. The tracks too wide. You can't block. Brad could It went to the bottom, but, I mean, with Joey behind, Joey would have been behind Bubb at that point because Joey wasn't clear. And I think the best move for us at that point is to be patient and wait for the right move to get Joey clear with us because that's our help.
Starting point is 00:14:40 You know, that's our guaranteed help to, you know, we split up and we've been working good together. And, you know, it wasn't raining. I mean, it wasn't, we were going to probably, without the wreck, we run what, another couple laps? We only had three more to the stage But we would have probably ran two more laps Before the rain because it started raining after the yellow came out So and that's to me that's a little early To be making an aggressive move if it don't work
Starting point is 00:15:05 And we you know obviously you want to win But we need points And we needed to bank a lot of points And I think that was that cutting to the bottom And taking that run inside above right there Probably if it don't work We go to 10th or 12th that really hurts our point points right now. Big time. Big time. It doubles it up too because you get the second stage where
Starting point is 00:15:29 you finish that's also what you get at the end. So we doubled up on second place points and it skyrocketed us to fourth into points. So it had been great to win, but I think that was the smart play and Bubba covered it well and it was a little early with a couple laps probably left under green to make a move at that point and possibly not, possibly not complete it and not have your help behind you. So great race for Bubba to control that and get up there and, you know, a win's a win, man. He didn't get up there by default. He got up there because he earned it. So I, you know, you got to give it to them guys for getting up there and making the moves at the right time right there to keep the lead. And ultimately, the, you know, you got to give it to,
Starting point is 00:16:19 Things fell just right for time. We've all been in, we've all been in position. We've all won races because of right time before. I've won a few races because of rain. And look, I mean, it's still part of it. You still got there. You still earned it. You still earned it. So anybody who doesn't think, you know, that's, you know, anybody who doesn't think Bubba earned that is wrong. Because he, they're an idiot. He 100% got the lead, earned it. He didn't just, we didn't just let him drive by for the lead. Bubba got the lead because he earned it. And it wasn't. like there was a strategy, like there wasn't a strategy. You guys knew rain was coming. The intensity was high. At the end of that race, it was, I knew we probably only had a lap. I kind of thought we could get to the end of the stage, but when that, when that wreck happened, the wreck, to me, is what saved everything. I mean, because we're, but the wreck happens because we're all going for it, too.
Starting point is 00:17:08 I mean, when you look at that last restart, and Freddie probably remembers this, I was right in front of Freddie with Justin, first race I've ever spotted with Justin, thought he did a good job. Freddy comes down there and he says, are you, racing and I said man I'm not I don't have a reason to like I've led some laps I've been up front you guys are getting ready to race for points in stage two the playoff guys are I don't have a reason to be in the middle of this right now and literally when Freddie and I are having this conversation the radar is clear we have no idea that rain's coming so I said Freddie I'm going to go like hell to get you and everybody up to speed then I'm going to get out of here and that's exactly what we did
Starting point is 00:17:43 we ran two hard laps we get out of the pack and we start fading to the back now you're talking about from the time Freddie and I had this conversation until right now is about four minutes. Crew Chief Keys up. Rain shower just popped up. We got to go. And I'm like, we just went to the back. They're three wide all the way to the front. And you don't just drive through the feet.
Starting point is 00:18:02 We're not going to go anywhere, right? It's just not going to happen. And then you still are sitting there as a spotter and watching a driver who is a non-full-time cup guy going, I don't know that we want to bust up through the middle of here and cause havoc and cause a wreck and screw everybody's day up and then be that part of the storyline. So there's so many weird things that go through your brain, but literally from the time Freddie and I took the green together until we knew that rain was coming was less than three or four minutes. Yeah. And honestly, like, nobody told me rain was coming. Uh, you know,
Starting point is 00:18:33 we had just talked about, we were all kind of, maybe 20, 30 minutes before that, we were getting a lot of word that it's going to rain. It's going to rain. It's going to rain probably right around halfway or sometime between halfway and the end of the second stage. And then I got the message, well, that cells cleared up. I think we're good to the end of the stage. So now we're all planning a pitch strategy. And then, I don't know, maybe two or three laps before that wreck, I started feeling raindrops.
Starting point is 00:18:58 Like, light, you know, that wasn't bad. But that's kind of when we picked it up, you know, and. I was waiting in my position. I'm, like, I'm waiting until I hear, hey, like, towers, raining in one. If I hear that, I'm, Brad, we got to go. It's raining in one. we need to get to leave. You know, that's, but we never, with the rec, we never got an opportunity to do that.
Starting point is 00:19:22 But, you know, I mean, dude, like, being up front is not a bad things a lot of times. I don't think there's anybody in this room as a spotter that doesn't want the lead and doesn't want the ability to try to control the lines because that's where it's at. I mean, look, if it's one to go and you're on an island, like you said, T.J. would no help, and they're going to back up and get a run on you, a different scenario. But given what's going on at that moment in time, I mean, I fought the same kind of thing with Jeb in the spring in the Xfinity race. We knew rain was coming.
Starting point is 00:19:51 We didn't know when it was going to get there. So you race as hard as you can race to try to keep the lead. And you just hope the timing works out. But I can tell you people, we know the race is going to end, potentially in very, very soon. But shout out to NASCAR, because once the rain got there, I thought it was going to soak the racetrack and we'd be done. And I actually made my way to my car and started making my way to the airport, which is literally right next door to the racetrack.
Starting point is 00:20:14 and we all sat there and it stopped raining and you're sitting there doing the math, right? And you're like, well, we could go back green at about 5.30. That gives us 45 to 50 minutes of racing based on kind of what with what happened yesterday in the Xfinity Series race. So what did NASCAR do? They dispatch the jet drivers.
Starting point is 00:20:30 They were going to make an attempt to get us back out there. So I come back to the racetrack. And this whole time I'm texting Freddie. And I'm like, I'm coming back to track. I was like, you might want to move where you're at, change your luck a little bit. But he sat there and, wrong story short. We sit there about 20 minutes.
Starting point is 00:20:44 and we're starting all get our stuff out, go back to the roof. Next thing you know, big rain drop. I'm talking, big drop. Big drops we've seen all weekend. They started hitting my windshield. I'm like, oh. As soon as the first two drafts, I look over and I was sitting with Josh Williams, I'm like, I'm like, uh, it's over and out. It's over.
Starting point is 00:21:03 Because they did have a window there, and it looked like it was going to be gone. Yeah. And I honestly didn't think it was going to rain again. And for everybody who tweeted that NASCAR rigged day, all that stuff, I mean, it rains. Like, you cannot deny it. And they had, they had to think about the broadcast. There's a ton of conflicts. I think like football was coming up.
Starting point is 00:21:22 Yeah, but that was, honestly, Casey, I hear what you're saying, but it doesn't matter because you're not going to get the track dry in time to even go back green. So when we hit the window, I actually tweeted windows closing and literally, you're not going to have time to dry the track and go back green before dark. The people really think. People are that stupid. I'll tell you what, you know, that deal, that rain, you know, their whole rain situation, and it really took away from the celebration.
Starting point is 00:21:46 I mean, I told you. It's really, it's really broke my heart. I saw some emails come through with the Victory Lane photos, and no lie, you are standing there in the corner, just drinking the beer, like, you had already started before even the Victory Lane photos kicked off. So there was the craze, obviously, I've never been to Cup Victory Lane, but I assume it's not like this very often.
Starting point is 00:22:08 No. So it rains, obviously. So they moved to the meeting room or something in the Infinity Garage. So I'm trying to find I don't even know where to go I see Larson Larson Like congratulations man He goes
Starting point is 00:22:18 Where's Bubba? I'm like I have no idea So now we're all walking To these garages trying to find where Bubba's at Where the car's at I can't find anybody So now somebody's like Oh they're around the corner
Starting point is 00:22:28 They're at the alternate victory lane Or whatever so I'm all right cool So I start heading that way I get in there And it's just Bubba and Our pit crew Like over the wall pit crew And I'm like
Starting point is 00:22:38 Where the hell's everybody else Like there's nobody here If Danny was there He's all pumped up So I go up there, say, see, hi, Bubba, you know, whatever, hug it out for a minute. Well, then we're like, well, where's the guys? Are they coming? Well, no, because there was a lightning hole.
Starting point is 00:22:53 The car's on pit road. They were waiting to move the car. We didn't do Victory Lane in Victory Lane until probably two, three hours after the race was over. I mean, it was, by then it stopped raining. And I credit to, like, Mike Wheeler and Bubba, because a lot of guys on this team have never won a race before. You know, there's a lot of guys, I would say more than half. And Wheels is like, no, no, we're doing Victory Lane. Like, if it's not raining, I want the car in Victory Lane.
Starting point is 00:23:18 I want these guys to get the experience Victory Lane, you know, even if it's simulated. He's like, these guys get deserved this, this is what they deserve. So we waited, the rain cleared up finally probably like 530 or so. And they pushed the car in the victory lane, and then we had a whole other party in there. But this is like, I'm like, is this how it is all the time? This is three hours of just hanging out. And NASCAR literally said the race is declared official. nobody can move their cars because we're still in a light and delight.
Starting point is 00:23:43 We waited at the airport for an hour on Justin Algar, and I think he drove home faster than we flew home. And he wrecked. Yeah, exactly. He wrecked and left. Justin, what are you doing? He didn't do anything wrong, but our airplane people, they were like, we're waiting on one. Who is it, Justin Algar? Well, he drove home.
Starting point is 00:23:59 He'd been gone. But congratulations, Freddie. You're nervous at the end there? Like waiting? No, I said, like, when you got the last. And you saw Brad and Joey lineup. You know what? Honestly, a situation like that, it helps you.
Starting point is 00:24:16 Because it's two guys that you know are committed to working together to get you. You know what I mean? And it helps you kind of expect things that are coming, see things that are coming. Like we, Bubba made a mistake. We were leading the top lane with Kurt. And he felt there was a hole behind Ricky in the middle. Ricky was leading the middle lane. We were leading the top.
Starting point is 00:24:40 I figured who's on the bottom. I think Danny and the 20. And there was a whole, like, we kind of got shoved out, but then Kurt, we kind of lost Kurt a little bit into three. Yeah. And there was a hole behind Ricky. And I didn't even clear him. He went in there himself because I didn't want to go in there.
Starting point is 00:24:54 So there was no point in me clearing him down there. Well, he saw the hole got in it. And I was like, oh, no, what are you doing? And here comes the top back around us. And I'm like, oh, no, now we've just screwed this up. So then they faded again. Well, then I saw you guys get hooked up on the top lane again. And we were behind Kurt, I think.
Starting point is 00:25:08 and I was fine, or Ricky, I can't remember who was. And I said, all right, the two in the 22 are coming. I'll count you down. We got to get up in front of them. So whatever, you guys got there, count it down. We pulled up in front of you. You guys shoved this out to the lead. And then you could just see.
Starting point is 00:25:20 You got way out there. Yeah, we got out there. And then we could see Brad, you know, I could see the game. Brad's, Brad would push us out, then lay back to Joey. So we're trying to lay back with you. I mean, but it's, like I said, it's not easy. But it's more predictable when you know there's two guys that are just 100% committed to helping each other at that point.
Starting point is 00:25:37 I wouldn't move because Joey wasn't clear and it was going to be, then we lost our help. There's no sweeter place to win a race as a spotter than Dayton and Talladega. I mean, and I don't care if it's a truck race, Xfinity Race, Cup race. Obviously, Cup is the elite of the elite, but there is no better place to get your first win as a spotter than one of those places. So it's going to hit you, man. It's going to take, I mean, once you sober up, it's going to take a few days. But it's literally, it's going to be years from now when you're, you're going to be years from now when you look back and you go, man, I got on this train with Bubba 11, 12 years ago. I was with him in
Starting point is 00:26:14 the truck series. I was with him in the Xfinity series. I've been loyal to this guy. I've stayed beside him no matter what happened. And as two great friends, we went in there and we kicked their freaking ass and won our first cup race together. And there's a lot of people out there, you know, saying, is Bubba ever going to win? Is Bubba ever going to win? Well, outside of John Kraft, I don't think anybody else knew if he was ever really going to win a cup race. So Robert Yates told Elliot Sadler after he won his first race with the Woodbrothers, we were standing in the Concord Airport, and we'd won at Bristol. And Robert walked up to Elliott, and he said, hey, congratulations last week.
Starting point is 00:26:47 Ellie said, thank you. He said, now that you won your first race, you'll win some more. That first one is the hardest one to get. So I truly hope that's case for you guys, man, because Bubba's great for the sport. Denny owning a car. I love seeing. I mean, look, that's a two-year team. That race team's so freaking new.
Starting point is 00:27:01 I mean, they broke ground, what, a year and a half? something crazy on it. Obviously, Michael Jordan's involvement there. But no matter what, the coolest part about it is you got Denny Hammond a car owner, you got Michael Jordan a car owner, you got this Joe Gibbs Racing Alliance. The biggest part of the story is Bubba Wallace won a cup race. Yeah, I was dying, laughing. Lambert was standing right next to me.
Starting point is 00:27:22 And, you know, we're doing those cool-down laps there with when the, you know, the rain's starting to pick up a little bit. And at this point, it really wasn't raining that hard. But it was hard enough to where they were probably going to start to lose the racetrack. and Chris is like Danny says it's raining like hell And they're all giving them grief about it Like you can't be like that
Starting point is 00:27:41 He's like the hell I can't That's my car up there leaning That's awesome Well I will say though When you look back at this whim There's a lot of plate races that end And chaos And there's a lot of attrition
Starting point is 00:27:53 When you look back At that top 10 You see guys that Have had very Decorative plate racing careers. I mean, you got right behind you, you got two of the best in the business already,
Starting point is 00:28:09 and behind them you still got Harvick, you got, I mean, Danny, yeah. All those guys that are the guys at plate races, you know, to me, that's, that's a big win. Yeah, I mean, I saw a stat the other day that was, you know, it's kind of, you know, we talk about plate races, obviously, are where we have the most influence, in my opinion.
Starting point is 00:28:29 I think it's pretty obvious. The best of the best, we're right behind you. And there's a stat the other day that Bubba has the most points at a plate track by like 10 this year. You know, it's like 147 points he's earned in the plate rate in the four plate races. And I think Harvick might have been next with like 136 or something like that. So that's a, you know, it's a. And the thing that me and Bubba talked about was we've been getting good finishes, but we really haven't been in contention.
Starting point is 00:28:56 There was one other one. I thought we might have a shot at winning. We kind of got tore up at the end there when I think you and Byron got together or something. But, you know, this race was one that we kind of circled as we're going to be more aggressive today. Where we get out front, we're going to try and stay out front. You know, we have moments where we get out front, but we kind of, you know, miss a
Starting point is 00:29:15 block or don't control the lanes right and we fade a little bit. And this was just one of them cases. Like, honestly, at the point, at that point, I was raising the end of the stage like you were, you know, it's like, okay, we're just going to try and win this stage. You know, we'll see, you know, we're going to make blocks, but we're not going to crazy. And then all of a sudden I felt the raindrops. And I was like, so much we're not going crazy.
Starting point is 00:29:31 It's going to be a hard car to get around now. It's hard being in that point position, though, because I know if we don't make, if we make a moving or don't work, man, we've got a 20-point gap right now, and there's- I'm glad you were in that point position. Well, that, like, that makes things, like, harder.
Starting point is 00:29:48 Like, yeah, you want to go for the wind, but if it don't work, you're, you go to the roval, and you're like, now you, like, we got to just have a nice, quiet race to the roval, we'll advance. One more thing for you, before we move on, booty. guys like, oh, for 484 as a crew chief, been around the sport a long time.
Starting point is 00:30:04 When I met Booty, he was building shocks. First of all, I don't understand how you two guys understand each other. His Virginia accent and your Yankee accent, or that couldn't be further from apart. What was he like down there? Man, so it's really hard to get a motion out of booty. And I could see it on the box. Again, I didn't see Booty until we did the Victory Lane because by the time I got down there, he was in tech, or they had him at the media center.
Starting point is 00:30:30 So it was like an hour and a half, two eyes before, I haven't seen Booty afterwards. But so I saw him and he still, you know, you can see he was kind of just sitting back and, like, just taking it all in. Like it's, I think he said like 480 something starts that, you know, didn't, I didn't realize. I assumed he had won already. You know, I just, he's been around so long. I just assumed somewhere he was where he had won. But you could just see him and the funniest thing was. So I don't know how much champagne they had at this party after the race was over.
Starting point is 00:30:59 but every person that was on that team got doused with two or three bottles of champagne, every one of us. Like no matter who it was, the highest guy or the lowest guy, we were all soaked in champagne. There must have been cases. Did you get a bottle? I don't know. I was so, I was drenched. I did not want to see any more champagne at that point.
Starting point is 00:31:18 But the funniest part was I was talking to Drew Blikinsdurfer. He was there. So me and him are just conversating about the race or whatever. And I hear this commotion. And I mean, Bubba's got a long. driveway that's got a little bit of a slope to it that leads into his shop. And I hear this commotion. And between me and Drew is probably two or three feet. And booty goes flying by me running about 45 mile an hour in his wheelchair with 15 guys chasing him with bottles of champagne.
Starting point is 00:31:47 And I'm like, holy shit. What the hell is that? But yeah, so that was funny. We got one poor guy, Matt Kimball. They said like a couple years ago, he looks like. me, like a saskwash when he takes a shirt off. So he's a good-looking man. He's a good-looking dude. He made a bet three years ago with these guys when they were all at LFR that if we ever won a race, he was going to go get his chest waxed. So now he's on the hook for this now.
Starting point is 00:32:14 And I guess they just talked about it while they were loading up. This might be our shot. This needs to be documented. They asked me if they could do it on here. I said, I might lay them on the table and just wax them up in here. I mean, they put a table in the corner over there. We could probably let it happen while we were just recording. We can hear him yell in the background.
Starting point is 00:32:30 I just want to hear him like the 40-year-old virgin. That's what I'm thinking. There's no way. I said I got to go. You let me know. I said, we're going to put a 23 in there or something. We should wax your chest. No, no, I didn't make that bad.
Starting point is 00:32:43 We need to do something for you to celebrate. No, trust me. We do not need to do anything else for me to celebrate. We're going to continue on this past. I think we should start a thing, a vote on Twitter. There's no chance. I'm doing anything. Should we wax Freddy's chest?
Starting point is 00:32:57 Yes. Or if there's anything else, we should. should be doing to help Freddie celebrate and commemorate this moment. Or we can wax his back. Nah, nah. We're not waxing shit around here. What if Twitter says you need to? All right, okay.
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Starting point is 00:35:17 Xfinity race, was it too dark to continue if you had on a tinted windshield or a tent advisor as a driver? Yes, it was. For us, the spotters, turn three was starting to get a little dark. Not something that we knew was coming like the rain. You never know what NASCAR is going to do in them scenarios. We've all been there, done that, right? Obviously, the Cup Series we saw a very popular win there. The only thing that sucked is I wish we could have done this on Sunday when all those fans were there because the stands were packed.
Starting point is 00:35:45 those people spent a ton of money to be there and unfortunately I saw a lot of them have to leave Sunday night Monday morning we were rolling back in but I don't know how anybody could go to Talladega Super Speedway and buy a ticket and sit there for those three races and not say that that was absolutely entertaining and fun and awesome racing I do think it's still dangerous and I think we'll cover some of that here in a little bit but but I mean that's this is Talladega I mean that's exactly why you you you're you You know what you get when you're going to Bristol. You know what you get when you go to Daytona. You know what you get when you go to Talladega. You know what you're going to get when you go to Martinsville. Those are places that are always going to be drama-filled, action-packed, anything and everything that you could want out of a race, and I thought all three races delivered, to be honest with you.
Starting point is 00:36:33 Yeah, I mean, spot on, obviously. I'm a pretty big spot on new winners this week, especially my buddy, Tyler Young, I say this a lot about a lot of people, and sometimes it's kind of, you know, redundant. But Tyler Young might be my favorite person in the garage. Like, I don't know that I've ever seen Tyler Young without a smile on his face. Like, if you have pissed Tyler Young off, I don't know what kind of, what you have done, but you're an idiot. So just to see him get another win, I was actually doing play-by-play for Derek because we were about 10 laps down,
Starting point is 00:37:04 riding around in the back, just trying to get to the end of the race. And they come back, they come back across the line for the white. And I see, I guess it was Gilin and John Hunter were out front and the 12 was third, which is kind of the same place we were sitting when I was spotting for Tyler and Spencer Boyd won. And I was like, man, they took the way. I said, man, Tyler might get him another one right here. And I'd call the last lap for him. And I'm like, damn sure did.
Starting point is 00:37:27 But yeah, crazy for them. I think if John Hunter had that last 100 yards back, he'd probably do it a lot different. The 12 had lost all his momentum. The 12 yanked to the bottom. What's he going to do different? Get away from him. The guy chased him. He was going to go as far as he had to.
Starting point is 00:37:43 If you go to the right, he's not going to get to you. Run on a racetrack eventually. Yeah, but by the time they get to the line, he wouldn't have got to him, I don't think. And I think, obviously, it's in the moment. But, you know, the 12 lost all the way sideways. He loses his momentum. And then John Hunter kind of comes down and gives him a free shot at his quarter panel. And you can't expect, I mean, people might knock Tate for doing it.
Starting point is 00:38:04 But you're going after your first career win. Not great equipment. So you don't know how many chances you're going to have. it winning. So he takes the free shot there and wins the race. And then just awesome, Brandon Brown. I seen both of those guys last night. Congratulations him. Big deal for him. I mean, he's kind of become a social media darling of the Xfinity series with his used car sales commercials and stuff. But yeah, so just really happy for them guys and obviously Bubba. So we'll get back after it this week, but that was pretty cool. T.J.
Starting point is 00:38:37 Spot on. That's great for all them guys. That's why we, that's why they circle. the plate races is wildcars because you never know and i think the unknown is attractive attractive attractive to race you know drivers you know every driver that goes into talladega honestly feels like they probably got a shot at winning and you keep at it long enough you're going to get a chance at it so i'm spot on it's great to see people get their first wins uh yeah i'm spot on talada track president Brian Crichton, and I apologize if I butcher his name, says that's the way a truck should look when it finishes a race at Talladega Super Speedway over the PA, referencing Tate Fogelman's wrecked winning truck. Spot on, spot off, Freddie. I mean, this is potential what an idiot
Starting point is 00:39:28 candidate right here. I mean, I'm sure all the team owners are happy to hear that the president attracts as he wants to look, all the trucks look destroyed when the race is over. I don't know. You know, if you want to have a demo derby, let's just block off the front straightaway and have a demolition derby and see who wins that. Obviously, this is a product of the racing we put on. We all know that. We all go into it. But I don't think anybody's hoping for it.
Starting point is 00:39:50 You know, it's just, I was there. Like I said last night, I was there. And the truck is destroyed. Like Tyler Young can't just, I mean, we talk about maybe not the greatest equipment on the racetrack. That was obviously a very good truck. And now it's destroyed. I mean, now he's got to replace that truck with something, you know, new or something. so I mean I'm spot off for this comment I don't I don't think that's the right the right
Starting point is 00:40:14 motive you're looking for I'm I'm spot off but I don't think it's I don't know that exactly what he meant you don't like to see trucks or any race cars come back on wreckers but you do like to see you know cars used up you know going for it now I don't think they meant to that I don't like to see it used up to that extent but you know it's Brett's been to about battle at Martinsville 4. When you come out of that race, you come, you know, you look down the side of your car, there's nothing. You can't even tell what the number is on your car. Because there's so many donuts and, you know, the bumpers cave the little bit in the back because you were at battle all day. And I think that's more of what he meant. I don't agree with the, I mean, when I saw
Starting point is 00:40:55 that 12 hit the end so while, I mean, I, oh, that was a shot. Yeah. And I, you see it, you have so much time from the time you see them spinning at Talladega at that point of the track until they hit you almost, you're like, and you see it's going to be flooded? And you're, and you see it's going to be flush and you see it's going to be driver's side. Well, you see it like slide and then you know right before it gets while it always seems to take that slide where it comes back. And it's like them funny videos you see on TikTok that guy in about, oh no, no, no, no, no. You just like know that it's coming. And so I really hate seeing them type of wrecks, but I don't, I don't mind seeing, you know, cars that were race. The guys were getting after it, you know,
Starting point is 00:41:30 they were battling. This is a mass car employee. This is a track president. this is embarrassing. I don't know if he's never raced. I don't know if he's never been around racing. I don't know if nobody in his family has ever raced. I don't know if he's ever had friends that never race. But I don't know of anybody in our industry
Starting point is 00:41:51 that wants to see a wreck. And I don't know of anybody in our industry that wants to see a guy hit the wall at 180 miles an hour because that's the way it's supposed to look at any given track. I mean, T.J.'s reference about Martinsville, we're running 80 miles an hour around there.
Starting point is 00:42:06 and it still can be dangerous. Talladega, I watch a single truck spin through the infield, and they did not throw a caution. The truck wasn't going to hit anything. The truck wasn't going to get hit by any more competitors. Everything was going to clear the scene. They threw a caution. The very last lap of the race, they go in a turn three, and five or six trucks get together. Some of them hit the wall extremely hard.
Starting point is 00:42:31 Matt Crafton's truck was destroyed, and they did not throw a caution. They continue to race for probably another mile. And when I watched that play out, I was so confused because to me, if the first car spinning, truck spinning by itself warranted a caution, how does multiple cars spinning and wrecking and hitting the wall at 180 miles an hour not warrant a caution? So to me, the yellow should have flown. John Hunter Nemechek should have been declared the winner. And we should have never been in this position where the leader of the race, the winner of the race, the winner. race, wrecked a guy on purpose, which we talk about on here all the time. Are you working for John Hunter next year?
Starting point is 00:43:10 He did that. No. When it all cost, he did that. But, man, he took a huge hit after the fact, and you're never going to hear me or anybody that I know in the sport excited about that scenario. And I don't mean anything. Maybe this guy's taken way out of context, but that's how the way a truck should look when it finishes a race at Talladega Super Speedway.
Starting point is 00:43:32 I bet if he saw the doorbars and I think, and he had to ride in it. wouldn't. Let me ask you this. Like we talk about it. So that spin with the 23, you know, he's racing, he's leading, trying to protect the lead. He comes down across Gildland's nose, gets himself turned. I don't think that should have been to caution. We should, I mean, we're coming to the white, coming to the end of the race, we're in the middle of the triovil and they throw a caution for that. I mean, I don't know who. Obviously, we'd have to go back and timestamp everything and look to see who is ahead of who, but I mean, that should, that should end of the race right there. Or at least, you know, if he spins through the grass and keeps going, we finish that, you know,
Starting point is 00:44:06 the white finish that lap he's by himself i mean it's it's just causing a fact like that shouldn't have been a caution then the other one 100 percent should have been a caution like i don't we always ask for consistency and it's just uh i hope that somebody called brian and i don't know his last name either i've never met brian i do know a few of the track presidents these days uh the ones that i know would have never said anything like this i think this guy needs a little bit of a pr 101 training about how to talk about racers and racetracks and safety and uh Man, don't make this mistake again, man. That's a bad look.
Starting point is 00:44:39 He's actually been in the sport for 20 years, looks like. He was senior director of PR at Chicago, then vice president of special events at Daytona, then he's been at Taldaiga for 10 years. Yeah, well, I love to have a beer with him and tell him, don't say this stupid shit like that again. Well, I'm sure he'll see this and know that. Spot on, spot off.
Starting point is 00:44:58 NASCAR calls Saturday's Xfinity Series race six laps early due to darkness. T.J. I had already left, so I don't know how dark. How dark was it, Brett, and I'm not saying this because your bumper cover was blown off. So I listened to Drew on the radio, and Drew, I was scanning radio, so Drew, who spots for Brandon Jones now, actually said, it's not, it's pretty dark, and if you weren't in a bright colored car, I'd probably have some trouble seeing you. So I knew at that point, I was like, eh, it's pretty dark. Here's what sucks. We're at a playoff race.
Starting point is 00:45:33 it's not the end of the race and we're stopping the race because it's too dark whose fault is that it didn't rain okay it did not rain so we didn't get to finish the race because it got dark so whose fault is that I mean you gotta go network right
Starting point is 00:45:49 I mean network start time of this race okay who doesn't realize that Talladega usually has wrecks it usually has red flags and it's probably going to get fucking dark okay who fucked that up is the first question you better hope it's not the guy that owns this place.
Starting point is 00:46:04 You started it like 3.45? 3.45-ish. It was late. Because they did a truck race first. So first of all, why are we even putting ourselves in position for this to happen? All you have to do is move everything up that day by an hour. Don't tell me it's hard. Yeah, 11 o'clock truck race would have been fine.
Starting point is 00:46:18 Don't tell me it's hard. Figure it out. This is absolutely assinine that a playoff race in a major touring series is ending because it got dark. That's all that happened. It got dark. So A, if we're going to put ourselves in this scenario with these start times, then B, give us lights.
Starting point is 00:46:35 Don't tell me we can't do lights. It's too big. We got lights at Daytona. It's two and a half miles, so I'm pretty sure for the other 0.1 mile, we can light that place up. It's simply, if we're going to go to a playoff race,
Starting point is 00:46:47 and I mean, look, I could carry this over into Sundays or Monday's conversation, too. Give us the best opportunity we can to be able to run the full event. Well, that's lights or at start times. And here we screwed up both of them. I honestly don't want lights at how to do that. I'm huge spot off on the fact that we had to finish this
Starting point is 00:47:03 at dark and then it's like we talked about. This is a variable that you don't know what's going to happen. It's too unpredictable. We had the lead on the final restart of the race with Jeff Burton. And I think we ran about three laps before the caution happened. And then the race gets called for darkness. We finished seventh. And it just freaking sucks as a competitor to, congratulations, Brandon Brown.
Starting point is 00:47:26 You did everything right. You had to lead. Actually, wait. No, he didn't have the lead. Brandon Jones had the lead when the caution. come out, but we didn't go to the caution. We went to the scoring loop. So did Brandon Jones win the race or Brandon Brown
Starting point is 00:47:41 win the race? What depends on how you enforce the rule, right? This is one big cluster, and it's one big cluster because we started this race, too freaking late, learn from your mistakes, don't repeat history, this should not happen. That was my biggest thing. My biggest issue was, listen, I wasn't there. I don't know how dark it was.
Starting point is 00:47:59 I know from past experience, it's way darker in person than it appears to be on TV. TV always makes it look way lighter than it is. So I'm watching this. I got a text going with Brett and Chris Rice, and they're talking about, and obviously the drivers are the ones that ultimately kind of make the decision. Like they're asking drivers.
Starting point is 00:48:20 Guess what the ones in the front are going to load? Yeah. It's too dark. So they show a replay, and they have a pause when they're calling on this. Obviously NASCAR goes back and timestamps everything and has different angles. So this could not be,
Starting point is 00:48:33 this might not be 100% accurate. But the replay that I saw, where they paused the cars, this is after the wreck, the yellow supposedly out, Brandon Jones has got a nose on the 68. And I'm like, I'm like,
Starting point is 00:48:45 I don't know if we want this thing to end because Brandon Jones is one of the guys we were racing for the, you know, in points to transfer the next round. I said, if he wins, that's not good for us. So I wouldn't be harping on the fact,
Starting point is 00:48:55 but we also had damage. So we knew we kind of needed that race to end right then. no matter who was in front. But so now, LaTartre comes on after they put the 68 to the lead, they announced it. So I'm thinking the whole time, I'm like, man, are they ever going to review this? Like, and go back and look. And I guess LaTart comes on there and says, oh, yeah, I talked to Steve O'Donnell. And because of the, it was just a caution flag, we go back to the loop.
Starting point is 00:49:21 And we use the loop data as opposed to the pictures because it's just a caution. And now because now the times run out, we're not going to adjust it or, you know, we're just using the loop data. And I'm like, that's just no good with me. Like, if this is going to decide the race, it should be the picture. You know, I mean, if, okay, you know, that they use the example of, you know, if the caution comes out for rain, we're going to use the loop data. And then if it rains out, we're still going off the loop. And I'm like, that's still not right.
Starting point is 00:49:50 You know, I feel like if this is going to decide the race, you should go back and see who is leading the race when you throw the yellow flag. I don't understand why you wouldn't do that. And in my opinion, it might have, like you said, congratulations Brandon Brown. Good story, great story. He's a guy I gave a lot of grief on here for a lot of years when he first come around because he liked to race real hard and tear some stuff up. Good thing he was racing hard then.
Starting point is 00:50:15 And he got, you know, I think he's been way better the last year and a half or so. But, you know, honestly, if I think if it's done right, I think Brandon Jones wins that race. but it'd be interesting to see what that exact timestamp and what the data would show there. This thing was done wrong for the minute it started at 3.45. I mean, I don't, I mean, what's that window? It's like three hours. Whoever is over this part of the world, I don't know who that is.
Starting point is 00:50:38 If it's the president, vice president, COO, I don't know who that is. This thing went wrong at 345. 100% agreed. Spot on, spot off. Brett, I'll let you continue this one. My blood pressure's up. I know, that's why I'm picking you again. NASCAR's policy of.
Starting point is 00:50:55 not starting a race until it can run the full distance after the weather cleared for a few hours following the postponement on Sunday. Man, listen, this is tough for me to swallow because we're-slip. Because we're sending race fans home at a time when realistically we could have green flag racing going on. I honestly wish we would have a way to revisit this policy and say, we're going to start the race and we're going to go to this point in time. And then we're going to stop and then we're going to resume the next day tomorrow.
Starting point is 00:51:28 A lot of people are going to hear that inside of this industry and get mad at me. But there's a lot of people that spend $120 a ticket with a family of four that spent two grand by the time they did hotels, food, and tickets and hot dogs and all the things that you need to come to a race that didn't get to see a single lap of Green Flag Racing because they had to go home. And that truly hurts my heart. I mean, I looked at Rick Corelli on Monday when we all got up there. And I was like, man, it sucks that all those people had to leave because when we got up there, on Sunday. Stans are full, campers are full. It breaks my heart that you're paying for something that you don't get to see start.
Starting point is 00:52:04 And so I think that conversation starts with the race fans. How do we fix their experience and yet still keep the integrity in our product? There's got to be a balance. Look, I love the rule from the standpoint of we should start with the intention of running the full race. We shouldn't start a football game and know we're only going to play three quarters. That's not cool, right? So we have to start with the intention of running the full race.
Starting point is 00:52:25 But who says we can't finish the full race the next day? So obviously, I play a little devil's advocate here. And like I said, I hate it for the fans. Obviously, I wish there was a lot more people there Monday to see that race because I thought it was a great race naturally. But here's the competition side of it. I understand. You know, you want to go racing.
Starting point is 00:52:47 But so say we waited out Sunday. And obviously, of course, this came up because people were saying it wasn't raining there for a while after they had called it. But what's the alternative? You know, what's the, what do you do? Okay, we're going to go green at 4 o'clock. We're going to run stage one. And we're going to run, but you have to have.
Starting point is 00:53:06 The thing is, we saw this this year at New Hampshire with the 10 and the 20. You need to have a set distance of the race. You know what I mean? Because you can't, you don't want to leave a judgment call to where it's going. You know, we're watching that race in New Hampshire. The 20's running them down. And all of a sudden they go, all right, there's three to go. what wait why now you're talking about doing this at talladega so so look here's a good thing you're you're making
Starting point is 00:53:33 valid points but here's a good thing tj we now have segments we have stage one stage two stage three we can we know at halfway or the end of stage two the race is official i know you're not going to quote advertised distance but let's fix that legality however you've got that sold in your ticket package and let's say hey due to darkness we're only going to run two stages today guys because we could have done that. I promise you the fans that were all there on Sunday would have said, great. Okay.
Starting point is 00:54:00 Guess what your TV audience would have been? Bigger than it was on Monday. That's, I agree. I'm kind of, I'm kind of, I kind of want to see it. You give me a problem and I give you a solution. But it's okay. So then where's that race official? At the end of the second stage.
Starting point is 00:54:13 But what did you get? But what if we get to the end of the first stage? Then it's over halfway. But it's all about strategy. It's not over halfway. So let me ask you this. It's a quarter of the way down. So we knew, we know they set a time.
Starting point is 00:54:26 Yeah. And at the track, if we're not racing by this time. We know. We know. Okay. So if you know that time and you get there, that point, from that point on, if it goes past that, you're going to the end of stage two. Like, everybody knows, like, okay, guys, this is our time right here. New window.
Starting point is 00:54:43 This is our window. If we start to race for you, we're going full distance. If not, we're going to the end of stage two from this, from right here. So scenarios based off of where they are at that certain point. I'm good with it. I'm telling you right now. There ain't one competitor in that garage. It's going to say they don't want to do that.
Starting point is 00:54:55 We want to race Sunday to stage too. There ain't one fan in the stands and go, I don't want to do that. I want to watch the whole 500 miles around this place. I'm pretty sure 300's enough. And then there ain't one person watching on TV on Sunday that's going to have to miss the race on Monday. He's going to say, I don't want to do that either. The truck race is damn near perfect link for that place. That's half the cup race.
Starting point is 00:55:15 I'm good with it. I mean, trust me, I'd much rather ran that race on Sunday with all those people there. Yeah, you let it be in the stage too. I'm supporting that decision, but I'm just saying if we go that route, it has to be a definitive end to the race, not, hey, we're going to call this on darkness or we're going to call this on rain. But I mean, they can set a time because they always get a time when it's raining. But the same thing happened at New Hampshire. They said, okay, the sun goes down at 806. Okay, great.
Starting point is 00:55:43 But was it too dark at 807? Not really. We only had, what, six or eight laps left that we could have ran? You know, it's just, it's got to be a lap. It's got to be, we're running to lap 120 today, guys, and then, you know, make a decision on what's... And I've been doing this for about seven, and I think I've only seen that situation come up probably twice. Oh, yeah, 100%. This podcast is brought to you by our friends at RacingUSA.com, Google's top-rated source for NASCAR merchandise.
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Starting point is 00:57:26 with cars that shouldn't be out there racing around. The clock does unfortunately kind of put you in a position where you might have to make some questionable decisions and you might have to send your car back out there knowing that it's not 100% knowing there's potential for more stuff to fall off or cut a tire because your goal is to get out there,
Starting point is 00:57:47 clear your minimum speed, and when you clear your minimum speed, now you have unlimited time to fix your car. My biggest issue with the fact is here, the minimum speed needs to be worked on. Like I saw some guys out. We were wrecked in the truck race and we were way, way off the pace.
Starting point is 00:58:03 I think the same thing with Lambert in the 18 truck. He was standing next to me. No chance to draft. Oh, no. I mean, we're talking seconds off the pace. And he's like, oh, we're probably going to be done here. We're going to be parked.
Starting point is 00:58:16 And then the draft went by him and was gone. And I said, man, I bet you're close to minimum speed right there. And he's like, no way. And they crossed the line. And they're, yep, 18s made minimum speed. he's off the clock. I was like, it's way, I remember this with Bubba a couple years ago,
Starting point is 00:58:29 like especially these plate races. Like, there's some places where you could hide at some of these places, but, you know, there's, like, when the minimum speed is that much disparity difference between the guys that are in the pack and the guy that's out there just riding around,
Starting point is 00:58:41 we need to close that gap because it's simply just too dangerous. TJ? Yeah. I like the clock. I think it keeps everything, you know, some things, everyone's in the same ballpark
Starting point is 00:58:56 so it's not an advance for anybody else but I like how you can fix mechanical issues but if you're in a crash you can't get the thing fixed up you don't need to be out there riding around I actually think it's made for better racing so Kyle Larson plus 22 going into the roble
Starting point is 00:59:12 if he doesn't get back out there in time who he could be in big trouble we thought this guy pretty much had one race he could not show up at well he damn near did it right here wrecked early ran like crap I saw Tyler Mon run and up and down spotter stand. I kept looking at him going,
Starting point is 00:59:27 boy, you sure want to log laps, huh? You want these guys to keep wrecking? That's the hardest. That's the hardest he's worked all year. Yeah, no crap. It builds drama, right? Bubba Wallace winning the race builds drama. Why?
Starting point is 00:59:39 Because nobody else is locked in. We've only got one guy locked in going into the two-thardoff race. That's another reason why I was okay being behind him because it didn't hurt points. I mean, at one point, you know, T.J. was talking earlier about how good he is in the points. There was one point I looked up, and he was eighth. He was the last guy in halfway through stage two. because of where they were running live, right?
Starting point is 00:59:56 So all these things guys are creating drama and storylines, and man, I'm here for it. It has been eight years since a non-playoff driver won a playoff race. Spot on, spot off Brett. That tells you how competitive these playoff cars are in the big picture here. I mean, you're talking eight years since Jamie McMurray won a playoff race as a non-playoff driver. And as you guys know, we're going into the final stretch right. here. We've got five races, six races left, whatever it is. You won't see another non-playoff driver win because those guys are at the top of their game. Their teams are at the top of their
Starting point is 01:00:34 game for Bubba to come in here and win a race. I'm spot on for it because the sport gets predictability a lot of times. I mean, last year we saw Harvick and Denny win every race. You go back to the years Jimmy Johnson was dominating, you knew he was going to win damn every race. And people get, they get mad about that. I appreciate it as a sports fan, but Some people get mad about it. They want stuff that's not predictable. Well, here you go. You got a weekend with three first-time winners.
Starting point is 01:00:59 You got a bubble Wallace winning as a non-playoff guy. Man, I'm here. Once again, I'm here for this. Spot on. Freddie, if you spot off this, we have some issues. I don't remember what we were talking about. On that note. I mean, obviously spot on.
Starting point is 01:01:16 Who was the last one? McMurray, I think. Yeah, so that's a big deal. Yeah, I mean, I don't know what else there is to say, really. it's good day. Your liver's going to be spot off. I mean, it's spot on. That's tough.
Starting point is 01:01:31 This is not an easy series to win in. Like, it's asking anybody who has ever went into racing and how hard it is to win in the Cup series. How hard is it even win the truck series? And then Xfinity and then Cup. I mean, it is not easy. The biggest year I ever celebrated a win is a year that I won was fortunate enough to win
Starting point is 01:01:52 a race in all three of the top series in one year. I mean, it's hard. Like, Freddie has a truck win. He has some Xfinity Series wins. He has a cup win. But Freddie, Freddie got his, really, his spotter career path kind of on track about, what,
Starting point is 01:02:08 three years ago, two years ago, in terms of putting yourself in position to win. Yeah. And when you do that, you become a winning spotter, and it's a big deal. I mean, there are guys on the roof right now, like a Tyler Mon.
Starting point is 01:02:19 I mean, he was a guy that was spotting for Rick Warecars, and potentially wasn't ever going to win a race in his life. He was driving trailers for Chad. And then here you go, man. He gets his break. And look, we all want our break. He gets his break. Now he's Kyle Larson spotter.
Starting point is 01:02:33 Well, guess what that got him? That got him, Noah Glaxen spotter. Now he went and races with both those guys. So it's just a hard career path. People ask all the time how you get to be a spotter. Don't ask me because it's all different for everybody. Go out, put the work in. Timey.
Starting point is 01:02:47 Meet the people. If you have to ask me how to be somebody, you probably ain't going to make it anyway. figured out on y'all. That's what we all did. People. It comes down to people relationships. Kevin Harvick, Christopher Bell, William Byron, and Alex Bowman are below the cutoff line
Starting point is 01:03:03 heading into the Charlotte Roval facing elimination. And I can say Harvick is behind by nine, Christopher behind by 28 points, William 44 and Alex 52. This is huge. TJ, spot on, spot off. I'm spot on because I am not in that. list right there.
Starting point is 01:03:23 And there's a bunch of guys between you and the bottom. That's the best news for you. That's why I was completely happy running second right there. I'm not saying that you can't have a problem in stage one and be out of this playoff, but the reality is you're 20 points to the good. Great starting spot. That's not a lot of points, but there's so many people between you and Harvick, there's a lot of people that's got a passion.
Starting point is 01:03:43 And we start second. We start second. So if we just maintain in that area. Don't see that happen. Here's a great thing about the drama of this. Kyle Bush is out. Chase Elliott, the best road racer in. the world if you watch cup racing is out.
Starting point is 01:03:56 Kevin Harvick. They're in. Kevin Harvick's the first guy out. These bottom three guys are screwed. Christopher Bell, Christopher Bell, William Byer, and Alex Bowman, they're done. They're done for.
Starting point is 01:04:06 Unless they win. Unless they win. This is a huge drama. I think the biggest thing. We talked about it on here going into it. I think we both, I think all three of us said we probably saw the 20 and the four kind of being in this position where they might not advance. We kind of picked one Penske,
Starting point is 01:04:22 car one Hendrick car and this is just a great round for Penske. You go to Vegas where they've been good forever, it seems like. Then you go to Daga, which they work together the best out of anybody at Dega. So this is a good round for them and you see it. They both vault up into the top five and they're pretty comfortable going into this. I think the biggest thing for you fans to watch for is the strategy splits here because you're going to have these guys, this group from even Larson, I mean, you know, Larson back to Kyle they're going to go for stage points.
Starting point is 01:04:53 So there's going to be short-pitting the stages to try and get track position. Some of these guys can afford to do that, and some of these guys can't. Like that bottom three there, Bowman, Byron, Bell, they're going to be short-pitting. They're going to be trying to get track position because the only thing they're worried about. They've got to be at front at the end. The only thing they're worried about is trying to win the race. They have to pit before they do stage too. And where these other guys are going to put themselves behind on the track position,
Starting point is 01:05:11 you know, the Brad's, the Joey, the Truex, Blaney, Chase, Kyle. They're going to be going to be going to be going to be going to actually stay out at these end of the stages, get their points, and then have to try to try. and battle back through, you know, behind on track position a little bit. And then you mix in the rest of us that are going to be doing probably the opposite of what the majority does here and there, you know. So it'll be an interesting strategy play to watch it all weekend or all race along. Here's what's interesting for me.
Starting point is 01:05:35 I watched Chase Elliott obviously dominate Cup Road courses for what seems like the last decade. I know this hasn't been that long, but it seems like forever. We watched him get into Michael Annette's car where at Watkins Glen, and he raced Jeff Burton all day. I mean, we were 8 to 12th. He ended up with some strategy at the end that got him up there. He finished fourth. and we didn't see him set the world on fire at Daytona. For whatever reason, that nine cup car at a road course is a flat out rocket.
Starting point is 01:06:00 But guess what? He's got to get points. He can't work and focus solely on trying to win that race because if something goes wrong, he's going to be in deep trouble. He's got to get points stage one, got to get point stage two. So when all those guys start peeling off, man, he's going to have to stay out there and make some magic happen and get some points, especially in stage one. If he goes out there and win stage one gets 10 points, maybe he feels good enough to go for that win.
Starting point is 01:06:25 But there's a lot of things, man. Strategy is always so important at road courses. There's a lot of scenarios right here. If you're a true race fan and understand road racing, this is going to be chaos. This is going to be chaos. Yes, sir. Love it. Spot on, spot off.
Starting point is 01:06:40 Jimmy Johnson will complete a rookie test for the Indy 500. Freddie. I mean, spot on. Who doesn't want to see one of the biggest names in our sport? We saw this with Kurt a couple years ago. You know, I think our whole sport was tuned in just to see how Kurt did. And he did unbelievable. You know, be great for Jimmy.
Starting point is 01:06:59 You know, what changed? You know, I mean, originally he said he wasn't going to do any of these ovals right now. I guess it's the Indy 500. You got to do it. How do you know. You know. Man, I'm so against what you're saying right now. Why?
Starting point is 01:07:12 I am so spot off for this. Why? Like, Jimmy Johnson is 40 plus years old. Jimmy Johnson is worth a lot of money. He's got a Gulfstream airplane. He's got a house in Aspen. He's got a condo in New York. He's got a freaking mansion here in Charlotte.
Starting point is 01:07:28 He's got kids. He's got a wife. I don't want to watch him strap in to one of these cars and go run the ND 500. I talk to his publicist this morning, Amy Walsh, and I called her. She's at this test. He's got to go out there and he's got to run 210 miles an hour. And then he's got to go out there and run 215 miles an hour. First of all, Jimmy Johnson could go out there and run 20 miles an hour.
Starting point is 01:07:46 First of all, Jimmy Johnson could go out there and run 227 right off the bat. You know why? Because he's Jimmy Johnson. I am so spot off of this. It hurts my heart. It gives me chills to know this guy's going to run this race. Why? Like if he were Kyle Larson, I'd be all for it.
Starting point is 01:08:01 I'd be no different if this were Casey Kane. Like you're done. Like you're at the end of your career. Why go out and run one of the most dangerous races in the world? If you're going to do that, come run the Daytona 500 again. It's safer than this freaking thing. Maybe you will. Amy also told me that Alex, the IndyCar champ, is coming to the Roval this weekend.
Starting point is 01:08:21 I'll be running around. I know that some other things might be happening right here, but I think it's awesome when IndyCar and NASCAR worlds coincide. I truly love it. But man, Jimmy. TJ, what do you think? I think he hung around them IndyCar guys, and that month of May there is pretty special, and it's the Indy 500.
Starting point is 01:08:45 So I don't. He's a racer. Why wouldn't he want to run one of the biggest races? I don't blame him for one. And he's probably been running so many road courses. He's probably like, just get me to an oval. Just somewhere I can, you know, something a little different for him. So, but it's $80,000, man.
Starting point is 01:09:03 I don't blame him for wanting to do it. And maybe he's considering it. Maybe he's not all the way on board. Yeah, I don't know. Maybe this test is. Dude, he's going to do it. I mean, if he goes to this test, how does he not get out of that car? He's going to wait to do this.
Starting point is 01:09:15 He's going to get. so excited. It's got to be so fun to have that thrill. I mean, he's still an adrenaline junkie, badass. I just, look, man, I'm 46. I want to watch a minute, so I kind of want to see him do it. I do too, but I don't. Like, I mean, I'm 46, and I mean, I'm like, man, if I were 26, I'd be all about this. I'm not. I've seen Jimmy, I've watched Jimmy race for so long. If Jimmy wants to run the 8,500, I don't care. I'm watching it. Last week, Goldfish casino slots gave fans a chance to win AJ Amadinger's race worn driver suit and helmet and got fans excited.
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Starting point is 01:10:49 Let's head into Reaction Theater. All right, here we go. Yeah, this is Andrew. I am the Brett Griffin fan club president of the Indiana chapter. Brett, one quick request. Can you never take a week off ever again? I mean, it's bad enough every week. We've got to listen to Freddy just slob on Denny's knob, you know, week after week.
Starting point is 01:11:11 And now last week we had to endure Freddie sucking off Chris Lambert's cock for two straight hours. Like, good night. Enough's enough. Freddie you suck. Brett, you're the goat. Not this week. Jeez, oh man. Freddy turned a little red right there.
Starting point is 01:11:32 I'm dying. Harsh. Indiana. Keeping it real. Indiana chapter. The what an idiot of a year award has to go to Derek Krauss. I mean, he can't even get out of the frigging garage without spinning out on pit road. Come on, Freddy. What's the deal? you gotta get your boy together
Starting point is 01:11:51 he goes from hitting everything on the track to now he can't even make it to the track come on man jay sucks so we're in the garage and he's pissed off because we had to change a brake rotor and he comes whipping out from the opening he changes the driver he comes whipping out of the opening
Starting point is 01:12:08 it spins right out of my good work try to get it turned around now dumb ass oh my god it's funny that was true tj wouldn't even be that bad no my want an idiot goes to nass for scheduling this Xfinity race at 3 o'clock in the afternoon when it gets dark at 6 o'clock. Yeah, are you kidding me? Like, what the hell? Nasscar can't get out of their own freaking way.
Starting point is 01:12:30 I ain't coming back till next year. He sat here for 10 minutes after the caution came out, and all of a sudden they say, well, it's over. This guy wins. He's under caution on the backstretched, baby. Oh, my God. And even that dark. Yeah, exactly. The lights are on, baby. Let's go. Oh, my gosh. The lights are on.
Starting point is 01:12:49 might have been the problem. I'm not going to spend much time on this message pumping you up. I have a more important announcement to make. It's a public service announcement for anyone and everyone who is going to be in charge of you this week during your celebrating time. I'm hoping Megan picks up like four shifts at work, so she doesn't have to deal with you. But the checklist that I have to use more often than not, first thing, get your actual address. because after you have a few drinks, you just like to throw out towns that you're staying in,
Starting point is 01:13:21 not so much an actual address where you need to get dropped off at. Two, when they get to the bar, they need to find out what last name is on the card that you're using, and then at the end of the night, make sure that they close out all of your tabs and get your credit card back in your possession. Third thing, as you're walking out of the bar, they need to make sure that you have your phone in your possession.
Starting point is 01:13:42 That's very high on Megan's list. It just needs to be in your possession, though, not actually on it, because we don't know who you're messaging or posting on social media. It usually doesn't work out so well when you're leaving the bar. Fourth thing,
Starting point is 01:13:55 as you're heading back to your place to drop you off, they need to make sure you have multiple alarms set for the following day. And again, more importantly, they need to make sure those alarms are set in the AM position,
Starting point is 01:14:06 not the PM position, which is something that you struggle with. Guilty. Last but not least, as you flopping your bed passed out, they need to make sure that your phone is also plugged in and so that it does have juice that those alarms will actually go off the following day
Starting point is 01:14:20 and wake you up at some point in time. So nice work again this weekend. Good job. Enjoy your celebrating. And we will see you in Charlotte. Tony Hirschman, ladies and gentlemen, the babysitting committee for Freddie Craft consists of Tony Hirschman, myself, and Steve Barkdall. And Tony Hirschman just shared with you guys the creed to which to keep Freddie safe.
Starting point is 01:14:41 All those remarks that Tony has said in there came from personal experience. We're not going to tell the story today, but we're going to tell the story about the town versus the address at some point. We can tell that one. Trophy Club, Texas. Yeah, we'll tell it later. Right after Columbia. No. That Columbia story is that ever going to stay?
Starting point is 01:15:02 This should be the day. I mean, four-year-old could outrun him in her bicycle. Grandma could beat him in her wheelchair. I could drive a truck loaded down with halls. Nuss, and I beat that mother f*** fair and square. Look you, Cody Wend. Was that Jeb? Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:15:44 Thanks, Jeb. There's Justin Allgaard who walked through the shop. He knows I waited him for an hour on an airplane other day. He looks like he's been here a while. How about that stupid fan that thought that this was Jeff Burton singing on Twitter? Oh, my gosh. Why are you guys so mean? People make mistakes.
Starting point is 01:16:01 That doesn't sound anything like Jeff Burton. Did you see what he said? Yes. He went after Jeb Burton's throat for, how about instead of singing songs about Chase Hill, you try to suck a little bit less. Well, guess what? You're a fucking idiot.
Starting point is 01:16:13 That is not Jeff Burton. That is not my son, man. My boy don't sing like that. All right, let's keep it going. And here's your latest news. Bubba Wallace gets his first NASCAR Cup went at Talladega Super Speedway, the first victory for Michael Jordan's 2311 racing.
Starting point is 01:16:30 In what Taladaica County officials were calling a completely unrelated incident, The local area's entire supply of fireball whiskey and peat was purchased by who witnesses are describing as a young Santa Claus with headset. If you or any of your friends know this man, please get into the nearest alcohol treatment facility immediately. Young Santa Claus with headset. I have a theory. Bubba Wallace and Freddie Kraft of this victory to none other than Brett Griffin and Justin Haley. Beginning of stage two after the rain delay, Justin Haley got out front and became a moving roadblock in front of the Penskeek cars.
Starting point is 01:17:03 and sent them both to the back of the lead pack. Only at the end of the stage, before the next rain came, did they both finally get back up there and didn't have enough time to get past Bubble Wallace? Way to go, Brett. And your car totally effed up the race on Saturday, too. So you really screwed up both races. So thanks. I really appreciate it.
Starting point is 01:17:29 Thank you. Freddie! I've, keep raided. Let it rain, let it pour, let it rain all day. I've never been so excited for rating in Talladega in my 20 years of watching NASCAR. TJ, you suck. Look who's in second. Joey Lagano, are you freaking kidding me?
Starting point is 01:17:56 Nope. Nope, sorry, buddy. I truly believe that I speak for every single DBC listener out there whenever I say this. Hell yeah, Freddie crap. If anybody sees a big guy streaking down Tallade. a boulevard and don't be alarmed. It's just Freddie. He's about two bottles of fireball deep. Congrats on the wind. Freddie, congrats, Bubba. Oh my goodness. Bubba won. Baba won. Baba won the race. Hell yeah. Winner, Freddy's buying us fucking dinner.
Starting point is 01:18:31 Congratulations, Freddie. Hell of a win. Congratulations, Bubba. And especially, congratulations, Booty fucking Barker. Amen. How do you get the nickname Booty? I want to be called Booty. I thought that's where you named your son. You just spelled it wrong. It's one that happens moments in my life, man. Like, I just... Sounds like Jimmy Wags. I'm speechless.
Starting point is 01:19:00 Bubba Wiles is a freaking winner in the NASCAR Cup series. I'm glad you made it this time, Jimmy. You didn't want to miss the flight the last time. Yeah. Too little. Best on the standing, the best in the booth. Stumbed the Monday to tell you the truth. Finians and breaking the rules
Starting point is 01:19:20 Good call to the holler to bring it to you Casey you pretty Freddie you fat DJ you suck Brett ain't so bad Jason is facing kind of play in this race And if someone don't crash and he's gonna go mad Looking for Freddy, he's killing the bottle Casey is making messers like a tauter
Starting point is 01:19:33 Tweet something stupid then don't even bother Brett's gonna block you like Tj as his spotter See them online though FF in the chat Tell Rick where to stay off the track All of the podcasts are living in fear This isn't the download, it's throw bumper clear Okay, it's strong I mean
Starting point is 01:19:47 That's probably Isn't the download. Nah. This is door, bumper, clear, clear. That might be the new leader. I mean,
Starting point is 01:19:56 that's the first, like, that's the first, like, rap version that we can. Jeb, you're fired. Jeb, Jeb might, yeah. Jeb still do, he's our one. Now we need, like,
Starting point is 01:20:07 the Nelly and the Florida Georgia line mix. We need a two of them. We got them together. I thought we were going to get a Casey's messy song. We got one last week. That was, you should show up.
Starting point is 01:20:16 Yeah, maybe if you were here. I never heard that. I didn't hear that part. The first part of the song was great. I listened to the show, but I didn't hear that part. I had Chad listen to the first part, the second part. I'll tell you what, that guy right there is talented. That was awesome.
Starting point is 01:20:29 That was really good. Yeah. That might be, I might. I mean, that's getting up there with displacing Blake. We're going to have to get these top 10 moments and capture them and pay these people a royalty and let's just sell them. Tyler did a really good job right there. That was pretty nice. 99 cent download for charity for all these deals.
Starting point is 01:20:46 I don't know why he's got to be a f***. I call me fat. I was not. He called me Freddy. It was P-H-A-T. He said it. Oh, yeah. I couldn't read the lyrics.
Starting point is 01:20:54 All right. To leave an audio message 24-7. You realize a few messages ago, somebody said it was Santa with a headset, right? Can we do a compilation video of everything said about Freddie? Because this could work out well. Ode to Freddy podcast today. To leave an audio message.
Starting point is 01:21:11 I'm not giving you a reach around after this. Four-seven. Get your head off my leg. Go to anchor. dot FM slash door bumper clear and click the message icon. We'll get playing the best ones on the show each week. Opera pad. Question of the week. What is the best home you've ever partied at?
Starting point is 01:21:31 Why was it a good party home? Freddie. He didn't remember. Does this have to go with the address and town thing? If it was that good. Yeah, I don't know. T.J. Dave's probably.
Starting point is 01:21:47 Dave's was up there, one of my better ones. Dave had a big bar downstairs. Just one. Dog treat Dave, just one. Now we don't even get invited to his house anymore. Now he don't even like us anymore. I think we tried to kill him. It'd be hard for me not to go with the owner of this place.
Starting point is 01:22:01 I mean, he's had some, we've had some fun parties. I mean, we talked about a couple weeks ago, though, Jimmy Johnson's old house was in a very good location back in the day, like early 2000s. And I don't remember a lot of the house. But we went over there a lot. Yeah. Man, so I got three. Three.
Starting point is 01:22:23 The first two are Elliot and Clint's house because they're both in the middle of nowhere. They both have a big barn. They both have a big stage in the barn. And they are capable of throwing massive parties. And you're all allowed to just sleep where you land. You know what I mean? And you can show. And you can shoot.
Starting point is 01:22:43 I've been in a hotel. There is no way. I am not sleeping in that hotel. That hotel is nasty. That hotel is not happening. But Clint's barn and Elliott's barn are phenomenal. A lot of people listening probably have heard of Elliot's Barn Party, which I was a part of back in the day. But, man, I went to Todd Braun's condo downtown Charlotte years ago, and he was part owner in which team was that, T.J. Was it Braun Motorsports?
Starting point is 01:23:06 Yeah, Bronn Racing right here. They had, Jason Leffler was one of their cars right here at the corner near where we're at now, Junior Motorsports. But I went to his condo downtown Charlotte. And it was the coolest freaking place I have ever been. Location was epic. You were close to, you know, where the Hornets play, close to the Panthers. But he had two floors. One floor, you lived like a normal house.
Starting point is 01:23:28 And the other floor was nothing but one big game room and bar and poker tables. And, I mean, it was freaking, it was awesome. I mean, I don't know. I'd say it's top, top three for sure. The western town, it's not a house, but that was probably the, that's probably the best place. Clint's is fun. I forgot about Clint's. That was an interesting night.
Starting point is 01:23:48 Got a jail across the street, too, so when you act up. I don't think Megan's ever going back to that one. I mean, that Western Town's got everything. We used to, I mean, I'd do Scotter events down there. Oh, yeah. People would go crazy. People got married down there. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:24:00 Yeah. And now it's just, now it's no more. It's still there. I know, but it's killed. Last time I win, it was killed. Well, I mean, it's not too bad. Because they don't use it. They just had an event there or something.
Starting point is 01:24:10 Yeah, they did the foundation event there. Oh, cool. Yeah. It's still abused. Yeah. I mean, it's just an old Western town. I thought I got seen a tagging something where like Luke Holmes might have been shooting a video down there or something. That might not be true.
Starting point is 01:24:22 I don't know. No. Yeah. Cream Brown was there a few months ago. I'm pretty sure Luke's doing, if he didn't, he is. I just saw him in Vegas a couple weeks ago. Really? Yeah, we were at Resorts World. Did he Drew?
Starting point is 01:24:33 Parker? Uh-uh. Drew wasn't playing there? No, he wasn't playing. He was just in Resorts World. He was walking around a buddy of mine. We shot. Dude, nobody bothered this guy.
Starting point is 01:24:41 Luke Bryan is literally hanging out. I mean, he's watching college football. in the sports book, not one person bothered him. Really? Really cool. Yeah, that's what you want. You want to see that. That's good. That's cool. Go get the cash offer on your home today with our presenting sponsor, offerpad.com. Time to get into our X-Fi more than fast moments.
Starting point is 01:25:07 You need more than just speed to compete in NASCAR. So where did we see teams need to be more than fast this week? I'll go with race winner, Freddie. I think I'll have to pick maybe that last block. from Bubba on the two car. Obviously kept us out front and then transitioned into the next lap. The yellow came out and we were still out front
Starting point is 01:25:30 and won the race. So I'll take that one. Mike Spindley, X-5, more than fast moment is his hands down. Once they put the caution out for the wreck and then once we started getting some rain, Freddie turned around and looked at this guy's and he screamed,
Starting point is 01:25:46 rain, motherfucker, rain. And I was exiting the roof at that point. and he was standing there screaming at the top of his lungs. And that was pretty, pretty fast for a big guy. I'm going to go, my X-Finity more than fast moment. It's going to be Brandon Brown for getting up there, getting his first win in the Xfinney series. He's gotten a lot of criticism over the last, you know, this year with strategy,
Starting point is 01:26:12 starting up front and stuff. Big win for that team and that shop in general. You know, Tyler, we talked about Tyler Young's deal there. That's two trophies sitting in that. shop today. I'm pretty sure they're going to have a good week. Here on Doorbrook Clear, being more than fast is a way of life. Thankfully, there's always tons to
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Starting point is 01:27:54 So download the free anchor app or go to anchor.fm to get started. That's A-N-C-H-O-R dot FM to get started. What an idiot. Brett, who's your pick for Talladega? Well, there's only one option this week. I could go with myself because I've decided I'm going to come back full-time next year and spot for Colleg Racing. I was going to ask you if we were making any announcements.
Starting point is 01:28:27 So I'm going to do Justin Haley on Sunday, Daniel Hemrick on Saturday. Pretty excited about that. You heard it here for... Chris Rice has been great to me over the last three years. we've done a lot of good things together, and it's been great to help them build winning programs, Exfindley and Ari the Cup side. So pretty stoked about that,
Starting point is 01:28:43 so I may win this week's, what an idiot for a comeback on the road full time. Change my pick. Man, I could go on and on and on on on on this one, but I think I'm going to go back a couple weeks because I still see people tweeting about it. Chase Elliott fans, stop tweeting about Kevin Harvick wearing his helmet
Starting point is 01:29:03 during the situation after Bristol because your driver did one of the most unethical things I've ever seen happen in the sport of NASCAR coming out, changing the outcome of the race, brand new tires running a 60% throttle, staying in the way of the leader, let a lay and dog lie, leave it alone, drop it, move on to the next one. You guys are, you're making yourselves look like idiots, so just stop. I have a comment on that one because I think it was great sponsor branding on his helmet for all of the sponsors on there. You're on my side too then.
Starting point is 01:29:34 Stop talking about it. Yep. He could have been really smart on that move. Freddie, who you got? I mean, it's, I would say, impossible not to go with, A, Jennifer Joe Cobb, or B, whoever was telling Jennifer Joe Cobb what to do in this moment, because you cannot pile into a wreck in a playoff race. 18 seconds later, like Parker Cliggerman says it was. You know, you watch the replay. I think everybody has seen it by now.
Starting point is 01:30:07 I don't know what happened. I don't know if there's a matter. Because this, listen, the reason why I don't want to just say, you know, Jennifer Joe Cobb, you're an idiot. She's been out here a long time. She's been running in the same place for a long time. And there has been a lot of gigantic wrecks in front of her for a long time. Every wrecks in front of her.
Starting point is 01:30:25 And this has never happened before. So I don't know if something happened to the truck. if a message wasn't relayed properly. I don't know what happened, but I know that it can't happen again. I mean, that was awful. She literally piled in there, looked like wide-ass open 20 seconds later,
Starting point is 01:30:44 and there's guys that had kind of missed the wreck and didn't have a lot of damage that she destroyed their truck by the time she got there and ran into them. So, I mean, it just wasn't idiot, because it just can't happen. T.J. There's a lot of candidates this week.
Starting point is 01:31:00 Lots. but I'm actually feeling kind of nice this week and you're nice every week I am nice every week but I really have to He's actually not nice No, just on here he is
Starting point is 01:31:15 He's scared He's not nice. I'm very nice. He's nice to me something See? I'm nice to you all the time All right, well who's your one idiot? You right now?
Starting point is 01:31:26 Man, I can't believe Brett's coming back full time I mean I can't either You can get me a job over there next year? It came with a private plane. You know, I got to go with the people on social media that say things. So, you know, anything that's like, oh, this is fixed, anything like that.
Starting point is 01:31:51 It's so hard to win these races. It's so hard. And to be honest, most of the guys on the roof, you know, and most of the drivers, a lot of them don't even get to experience winning. these levels. No. So, you know, to be so negative on someone getting their first win, no matter how it happens, you know, that's, you know, put yourself in their shoes.
Starting point is 01:32:12 Try to do what they're doing and see how well you do. So I got to go to any of them Twitter heroes that think they, Twitter trolls that, that, you know, put Bubba down or anybody that wins these races because they are very hard to win and most of us spend the majority of our life trying to get to that point. Yeah, I thought Mike had a great tweet. week Davis had a great suite yesterday. It was like, just imagine doing everything right. Imagine doing everything in your power to win a race. And then you still got all these morons that are just like, well, you know, you don't deserve it. You don't know, rain.
Starting point is 01:32:43 It's just that, the other thing. And the only thing I can tell you is, thank you. Because all you guys do is make us try that much harder. Um, you know, it's... Welcome to Darf Central. Presented by Bubba Craft. Like, it's just, I mean, it's a, it's comical at this point. You know, I laugh. Guys, all he still sucks. I'm like, okay, great. Speaking of it, speaking to comical. let's go Brandon
Starting point is 01:33:02 that wasn't what they were saying they were saying you don't Joe Biden so let me tell you people that are screaming that something you were the same idiots you were the exact same idiots screaming you don't want politics in sports and now you're standing
Starting point is 01:33:16 there at a sporting event chanting about politics you are all idiots every single one of y'all did I think it was funny absolutely but you are these same idiots that are hypocritical because I promise you every one of those people a year ago were saying we don't want politics sports, you're chanting freaking politics into sports.
Starting point is 01:33:36 Honorable Mitch and you a bunch of idiots. What a good place for us to win a race. I'm just upset that guy wasn't flying his flag over the race track this year so we could wave out of him for victory lane. Time for DBC picks. Brett, you won at Talladega with Brad Kislauski. T.J. is officially out of this thing. You think?
Starting point is 01:33:54 He was out in Daytona. He just kicked out. I was out before I made my first pick. You jinx everybody you pay. I do jinx him. The score is now. 14 to 12 to 6. No, it's 14 to 12. I'll take Denny again. With Freddie leading, Brett and second and T.J. 3rd.
Starting point is 01:34:10 Heading to Charlotte, let's make picks. Freddie, you're at first. I guess I better start picking some guys now. Let's go Chase Elliott. Why not? I figured you'd do that. And look, man, Chase is solid. Obviously won the last three races there. No, one of the last two races there. T.J., it's pointless for you to pick your lemonade. I don't care. Just like the playoff. I'm going to go. You don't get to pick yet. T. T. I race every lap. TJ gets to go. It don't matter.
Starting point is 01:34:36 That's like letting Rick wearing a playoffs. Brett, you always have something to complain about. Sorry, you suck. It's like a non-playoff. I am going to take. Do it, TJ. Do it. Do it.
Starting point is 01:34:47 The whole reason I need you in this thing. Oh, man. I'm going to go with it's one of the other. Chris Rebell. William Byron. That was my other. That was one of them too.
Starting point is 01:35:00 So Christopher Bell certainly makes a lot of sense. I'm going to William Byron because he's got to win the race. Chase Elliott needs points. All these guys got to win, really. And look, I think it comes down to, I don't know, man. What a, this, I mean, T.J. Senator, this will be chaos. This race will be freaking insane. I'm spotting this race for AJ Amundinger.
Starting point is 01:35:20 I'm going to have a really hard time focusing on my job because I'm going to be so caught up in this playoff battle and who's got how many points. And who, I'm just glad we could go out there and race. Bubba gets to go out there and race. But here's the thing. Like Bubba, if he can make up a couple spots in the points, that's a big payday for 2311 racing. It's a big payday for Bubba as a driver. So even though those guys are not in the playoffs,
Starting point is 01:35:41 finishing 17th and points, pays a hell a lot more than finishing 25th does. Yeah, I mean, we talk about it on here. You know, all year long, I've seen the comparisons to, like, oh, the 99's having a way better year than the 23. And I don't know if that was because the expectations were higher for us versus the 99. and he ran a little bit better.
Starting point is 01:36:00 But, I mean, first of all, we're way ahead of him in points. And then I've seen all the other idiots where, you know, he ain't running no better now than he did into 43. What's the, you know, that's all he is. We're going to end up with probably over 100 more points this year, probably 150 more points this year than we had last year. So, I mean, obviously there's marked improvement there. Now our standing is going to be similar,
Starting point is 01:36:22 but should be better as long as we don't, you know, fall on our face here the last couple laps. But it's just, you know, it's a big deal. deal. We're all racing for something out there. We're trying to advance our spot. You guys are all racing for the playoffs. My advice to you guys, and I'm old and decrepit these days. Man, you and Bubba need to go do what you do for the people who love you. Don't just ignore the haters, man.
Starting point is 01:36:48 There's no reason for them to even get one percent of your time. I love to make fun of people on Twitter. Those people that think they get under my skin, they don't. These people think they know me on Twitter, they don't. I think it's comical. I mean, I'm sending out tweets literally laughing about some of the things that these idiots send to me. Like, dude, just laugh at the idiots. Ignorance is bliss.
Starting point is 01:37:07 My favorite thing to do is when I get, like, a negative or a hateful tweet about Bubba or how much I suck or how much Bubba sucks, I like it. I like it. So that means I know I saw what you tweeted, and I don't really give a shit what you think. Do it for the lovers. Yeah. Do it for the lovers. Hey, it's fun to be home this week.
Starting point is 01:37:28 Charlotte, look, some rain in the forecast. Hopefully, Freddie doesn't have to stand out of the rain all day Saturday to win. It worked out good last year. But it's always good to come home, man. Races in Charlotte are fun. Definitely stop by a few shops. Race shops are open, there are a few. Most of them are open, yep.
Starting point is 01:37:45 If you're Millbridge, there'll be some racing going on to. What nights? Well, the show will probably air by the time it hits tonight, but I'll be out there with Chad's, micro his other girlfriends and um with chloe so i think there's saturday night racing too so definitely check that out yeah awesome i will be uh at every bar in the area this afternoon so we're going on a tour me and brett have i've never i've not seen brett since sunday so this is our this is our data to make up for lost time i guess victory lane bar crawl yeah i've got to be
Starting point is 01:38:23 somewhat coherent at two o'clock for a call good luck i got to do i got to do serious it it 132, so I guess we could... That's two and a half hours from now. So we'll try. We're on cruise control to then. Well, I think this show is long enough for poor Jason over here. It's not that long. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:38:39 He has a... He has a mess to clean up, too. He's got on his red socks hat after that big baseball win last night. There you go, Jason. Go red socks. They hit a lot of home runs last night. All right. Well, as always, thank you all for listening.
Starting point is 01:38:54 Thank you to our incredible sponsor Offer Pad for supporting us. And hopefully we'll see some of y'all, Charlotte. A lot of guys said hello in Talladega. A lot of folks were at the elevator, came out to say hello. Took a lot of pictures with folks. Always good to see you guys. Thanks for saying hello.
Starting point is 01:39:11 And we're ready for the roval. Be sure to like, comment, share. Tell us how much you love us. Send in some reaction theater messages. Until next year. Until next year. I'm going to drag this with you guys as long as possible. I'm just letting you know.
Starting point is 01:39:25 You should just skip the roval. The only thing better than winning... You just tell Jeff, you want a spot Saturday? Because I've seen that forecast. The only thing better than winning at plate race is winning on a weekend before and off weekend. Yeah. Or a home weekend. This is good.
Starting point is 01:39:38 Weekend before and off weekend is really nice. Robles kind of like being off for the 2311. The bus driver, so in Victory Lane, the bus driver, Tyler, right on. He said, let's make it two in a row next week. I said, Tyler, you are too drunk to drive the bus home. I can say you that much right now. You should stay here tonight. Oh, boy.
Starting point is 01:39:58 Y'all have a good week, man. Thanks for listening. I appreciate it. Thank you. Sighting off from the Bojangles studio. Hala. Check out Dirty Mo Media on YouTube, Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram. Dirty Mo.

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