Door Bumper Clear - 238 – Tyler Reddick: Santa Brought Fireball

Episode Date: December 21, 2021

It’s the Door Bumper Clear Christmas Spectacular! T.J. Majors, Brett Griffin and Freddie Kraft return to the Bojangles Studio to bring the listeners the best gift of all this holiday season – a special edition episode. Fresh off Next Gen Car testing, Tyler Reddick joins the show and participates in the Christmas fun and Fireball shots. Plus, hear what exciting opportunity Dirty Mo Media fans will have in 2022.Reddick currently holds the record for most spins in the Next Gen Car after three last week at Charlotte Motor Speedway. He’s here to tell us exactly what it’s like driving the new car, his thoughts on the major horsepower change and his expectations for what the racing will look like next season.The spotters ask him numerous questions about what they have heard about the new car and all the changes currently being implemented. Plus, they share their observations from what they have seen out of the tests over the last month.What has the crew been up to so far this off-season? Find out why Freddie hasn’t stopped spotting, T.J.’s adventures at a windy Buffalo Bills game and why Amazon is ruining Brett’s Christmas surprises.In Spot On/Spot Off, the table reacts to NASCAR’s decision to increase the horsepower in the NASCAR Cup Series cars at intermediate tracks from 550 to 670, after being adamant that change wouldn’t occur. Hear how it will impact speeds, why Reddick prefers 550 on some tracks and whether or not he’s been asked for input.Denny Hamlin and Kyle Busch raised concerns about the Next Gen Car supply chain last month and NASCAR’s Steve O’Donnell said all teams should have five cars ready by the start of the season. The gang shares what they have heard and why having five cars may not be possible. Plus, get their thoughts about the supply chain concerns and how speedy repairs may change the game.Spotter silly season is well underway and a lot of changes have occurred since the conclusion of the season. Hear what’s happening for 2022 and T.J. reveals which Xfinity Series driver he will spot for.Anticipation is building for the Clash at the L.A. Coliseum. The crew reacts to the report about the cost of building the track, Reddick shares details about the track surface that he helped design and what to expect come February.A new practice and qualifying format was revealed last month. Hear the spotters’ take on the changes and the condensed system, and what Reddick believes teams will be capable of changing in shortened allotted on-track times.Then, it’s time for Christmas fun as everyone plays DBC White Elephant and reveal why each host has ended up on the naughty list this Christmas.A special edition of Reaction Theatre includes the best songs fans submitted throughout the year as the gang reflects on the very memorable 2021 NASCAR season. Want more DBC? Check out and subscribe to the new DBC YouTube channel! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Ho, ho, ho. I'm a terrible Santa Claus. This is Brett Griffin, and you're listening to Door Bumper Clear's Christmas Spectacular, presented by our buddies at Offerpad. Christmas has come early as we're back in the studio to discuss the off-season news and next-gen car testing. We even brought an elf on the show. Man, I can't believe we just called Tyler Redick, an elf, who joins us. Plus, we'll have some Christmas games, share some exciting 2022 news,

and premiered Doorbar Clear's 2021 reaction. theater album. Let's go, Rudolph. Nobody's listening, but I don't care. I'm on an episode of Door Bumper Clear. Hey, everybody, I'm T.J. Majors. Spotted the six cup car,

the one truck and Xfinity. Maybe I'll tell you today. I heard it. I think I heard of you. Who's he doing? I can't tell you. I can't tell you, but you've heard of them a lot lately. Brett Griffin Spotter for

Colleg Racing in 2022. Just all Colleg Racing? What truck are you doing? Are you doing all cars? A truck. What's up? Freddie Crafts? Spotter for Bubba Wallace.

Spotter for Derek Krauss, I think. I'm pretty sure he's got his deal done. And I will be spotting for Landon Castle in the Colleg Racing Ten car again next year. So that would be fun. Work with Landing a lot in the past. So looking forward to that. And we got a guest in the house, I think.

He won't stop spinning in his chair for some reason, but what's up, Mr. Reddick? Hey, it's Tyler Redick here. I'm still a little bit dizzy, not going to lie. Driver of the number eight, Chevrolet for Richard Schultes racing, you know, paid for some sand barrels, went to the beach Wednesday, came back Friday, didn't have enough, went for a couple more. I've never seen anybody embrace spinning out, Tyler, like you have. Well, when you do it so much. No other way to take it. When you do that, but he did it do that.

many times, you just got to have to, like, you can't act like, you can't let it really, let people see, like, you're actually traumatized. Like, you just got to like, all right, well, this isn't going to happen again, and then it does. It's like, all right, that was cute, like, two times, like, all right, let's cut this out. So Freddie texts me and he goes, have you got Tyler Reddick's number? And I'm like, well, surely God, Freddie ain't going to offer this guy advice, right? And the next thing I know, Freddie texts me back, he goes, hey, Tyler's coming on the show. And I'm like, does he realize what he's getting into?

Like, this isn't even a normal show. This is a holiday show. Oh, he listens. So he knows. You know, it's been funny because I've always talked to Tyler, and I went to text him the other night, and I'm like, how do I not have Tyler's number? Like, we always talk on Instagram or some DM.

I was like, well, I guess I got to get his number. So you slid into the DMs, slid into Tyler's DMs, see if you wanted to hang out on me today. I just, I mean, what, it looked like a fun day. I mean, just. I mean, it honestly was a fun. It was fun until the last one. Here's the question I had for you.

And listen, I think, in my opinion, you came out of that test, knowing the limits of that race car, way more than anybody else. Now the question is, was that a conscious effort on your part to go in there to do that? And no? Because honestly, it's beneficial to you going forward that you literally know the limits of that car and how far you can push it, how hard you could push it, more so than anybody else that was out there with you. Especially getting up at pit road.

I don't know. I spun out three times on Friday, so maybe I don't know at all, right? Well, I mean, you're closer to knowing them than most people. And let me just tell you three times, but the scary one was the fourth one that didn't happen that I like, I almost closed my eyes because he was coming out of four one time and somebody was right behind him. Kyle. Yeah.

And you got loose and that thing was broadside. Like I could see the complete door number like off turn forward, Dover. And I'm like, oh, no, but he's getting, and somehow got it straightened out. But we were all like, whoa, like, holy cow. Speaking of spinning out, Casey, is that why you were late for work? Because you spun out on the way here. Okay. I just have to say this is supposed to be a Christmas episode.

so there's no need to be a to start. You can't say on the Christmas show. Find a Grinch to start. He said, I'm not going to say it. See?

It's a happy show. It's a happy show. Everybody's happy. I was late because I was getting you guys Santa hats. TJ said you were going to be late on Twitter before you even late. Yeah.

And he never tweets about our show. Did he really? He's got a new boss. I didn't realize. Seriously? And then you filmed me walking in but when Brett is late because he decided to be late for no

reason or Freddy's late because he's drunk. You guys don't give him. Well, Brett showed up. Brett was in a hurry because Brett had to go to the potty. Yes. He parts in Dale Jr. spot. Yes. So. Whatever. And Jason, thank you for being here on this office.

I had no idea you were late until Tyler was the one that pointed out. He said, oh, wow, it is true. You are always late. I'll take one minute for Santa hats every day. Tyler, you are. I'll tell you what about these Santa hats. It's hot as hell in here. I don't know if I could wear this thing the whole time. I will say Casey was nice enough.

You'll be fine. You'll cool me down. Casey was nice enough to buy Santa hats for the episode. But little, I think, what? I said that was, oh, okay. Does she say thank you? I thought she said something else. I thought she said something.

I did too. I was like, excuse me? But the only problem is you got Tyler like a two T. That's a toddler size. Just so you know you probably don't buy clothes. I just grabbed what I saw. They were a few. different ones. So you might have...

Casey, you're the best. Thanks. Thank you, Casey. I don't know what's going on with your hat. Jason, thanks for letting us do a Christmas show. You're going to kick this thing off. Thanks for letting us use the Bo Jangle Studio. Yeah. You know, I can tell Tyler likes Bo Jangles.

He named his son after him. In Tyler fashion, he spelled it wrong. French, you know, I got to be fancy. If he races, you need to use the Bojangles font. You'd be like, Bo, you know what I mean? It's Boat time. It's bow time.

When he goes crazy in the house, The cars start crashing everywhere. It's bow time, yeah. So, Tyler, we don't want to waste this whole show talking about the new car, because that could go but be an hour deal. But I've got to ask you real quick. So I've been told this thing drives 30% tighter when you're in traffic. Is that accurate?

I think, well, I don't know if it actually, I think in a way, yes. But that doesn't mean that's necessarily something that's worse. the first run that we got to do on Wednesday with the 550 package, instead of having a full-blown, like, arrow push, it to me felt more like the car got tighter, and you kind of had the option. It was within your hands to decide, am I going to turn the wheel a little bit more for my front tires up

to run with this guy and put myself in position to hopefully pass him? In my case, I was able to eventually get around Kurt Busch, but I definitely paid a penalty for pushing. I'll pass my teammate. Oh, sorry. Hey, I mean, I was having, it was fun. But I burned my front tires off trying to get around him, and I paid that penalty, you know, for that on the backside.

So I think to a degree it is. So when you get out front, are you too free? Then if you're trying to get your car to handle in traffic? You know, well, somebody kept spinning out. So they got far enough. He might not be the guy. Don't call him by name. They wanted to do 25, 30-lap runs,

and some ass kept spinning out on the race track. Never. We never saw any of that. Kept cutting it short, but I don't know. I don't, maybe at some places that could have been a possibility, but I mean, I didn't feel like with where we had our car, even though I was spinning out. We had it too loose by ourselves to be, you know, traffic. More horsepower. I'm a fan. Drivers are fans of that across the board, or do you think it's split?

Because I know we've had some talks about, do we have more motor or not have more motor? Where are you at in that whole equation? And I know we're going to talk about it in depth later, but you personally, do you love more horsepower? For most, I mean, what really drew me to NASCAR as a kid growing up was the high speeds, you know, the crazy acceleration down straightaway. Yeah, we didn't always have the crazy high corner speeds, but, I mean, a lot of off-throttle time, a lot of throttle control on corner at the corner apex

and then to corner exit, you know, you see people haven't hang on to those things. So I was always a fan of horsepower, but I've definitely, through this, experience last couple days at the Charlotte test kind of tried to look at it more of what's going to be the best race and for once you know I was actually

kind of thinking that maybe you know low horsepower isn't terrible or the worst thing for racing at some places or certain situations but definitely the more as a driver when you just can feel the car accelerating faster down the straightaway

whether we change the the tapered baser or continue to take spoiler off. You know, it's quite a thrill to all feel like you got that. For me, it separates a man from the boys. Like having the ability to have that all throttle time and be able to have that talent. I mean, that's when the driver element kind of comes into play. My last thing about this new car before we dive into this show is I've heard that there are certain situations where like the steering locks up. And you almost like go right.

You don't really mean to go right. Like, is that a thing? never that explains it blame it on that no no no I don't think there's been an issue with like the steering locked up

but they've worked through some things to make the steering better okay on the on the I guess the more mile and a half the bigger tracks there's been you know some things I've worked through

to just I guess knock out some of the in my opinion I guess just road noise or white noise if you want to call it that just you're feeling things that

that's happening inside the steering rack or between the tires and steering wheel, but they're not necessarily relative information as to what the driver needs to know to feel the front tires. So there's been some of that, but like at the Roval test where we kind of had to have our steering to be good in the infield and all that. It made a little weird on the big oval, but I mean, we had that with the old car too. Yeah. I mean, so obviously two of the biggest questions coming about this car were safety, one for one. And unfortunately, you hit some shit the other day. I mean, does it feel any different than hitting anything in the current car or the old car, I guess you could say now?

You know, did you notice, wow, that hurt a lot more or less or the same? I mean, he hit a bunch of sand. Yeah. I mean, I can't remember the last time I've hit, I really came to remember the last time I hit driver's side. that. Yeah. Every race you run against the wall. Yeah. Oh, nice driver side. That's passenger side. There's no passenger side. I don't like hitting the wall. That's why I run right next to it. You don't take off and hit it really hard when you're running an inch off of it. You just scrape it. And heat issues. I mean, I know that was a big deal. Are we still burning you guys up in there?

No, no. I could feel my toes Wednesday. I was, my feet were freezing. But I mean, it's, it was winter. We're in December, right? I think once it's in the summer, the things that they they've done. I wasn't like a big fan of it first, to be honest, but that's because, you know, about a year and a half ago when I saw this car coming, I heard, you know, maybe a little bit hotter, you know, the way that's designed with the exhaust and everything, I kind of was like, I better, I better get together and like getting better shape and be ready for this car. So to see it on the backside, like, we're going to cool it off. We're going to do this. We're going to make it easier to steer. And it's like, dang, I trained really hard for nothing, maybe. Like, what was I

thinking, you know. So I was kind of a little bit bummed to see it, you know, not be as hot as I thought it was going to be. I kind of looked at as like a good thing. You thought it was going to be great to cook in there. That'd be awesome. Yeah. Like hot races don't bother me too bad for the most part. So I was kind of all right with it. 10.4. Well, we won't need to. I'm sure we have 47 more questions for you throughout the day about that. But what about offseason, Brett? What the hell have you been doing? Working. This is really my first week, not traveling, man. I've been been busting my butt and you've been in the keys so i know you haven't been working i've been working and this is my first week off tj who who signs up for all these stupid races yeah i don't

really that's like it's like community service man you're not really doing you're not really some of us have to work for our money he's like the kyle larson spotters he's all over the place i am not like the kyle larses spot he seems to win quite a bit more than i do you want something though you want a turkey i did win the turkey derby yet with jimmy blew it so that was fun uh i went to the Derby with Derek Krause, so I had no shot there. We almost won the last chance race. I don't know why that guy keeps you around. Because I'm good.

I know that I've renamed the last chance race to Snowball Derby, the Derek Krause Classic, because he's in it every year. He normally wins it. It's like the Clint Boyer All-Star Open. Yeah, like Boyer won the All-Star Open, like 75 years in a row. Snowball was pretty interesting. It seemed like that. Snowball was great.

It's a controversial race. Derek Thorne. Derek Thorne put on the most dominant display ever at Snowball Derby and did not win the race because old Chandler put it to him. But, I mean, I don't really blame Chandler because that's the only shot he had. You know, Derek was kidding. Listen, did you see the end? Do you see any of that?

The kid didn't, like, it wasn't like a wiggle him a little bit and pass him. I mean, he, like, shifted him. He had to get rid of him. He had to get him back. But, I mean, it was. He did what he had to do. Yeah. And I told Thorner, I did another.

podcast with Thorne after that. And I said, I said, if you don't get out and beat the shit out of the guy, like, they're just going to keep doing it because he got moved a little bit last year to win the race, too. So, I mean, if you don't give him a reason not to move you, then they're going to continue to move you. But, but I mean, he, I've never seen a car. He sat on a pole for both races, the snowflake and the snowball. He led every lap of the snowflake and was going to lead every lap of the snowball and got moved. When you spotting that race where the guy got hooked in turn one and like, the truck race? The truck race? No. Oh, my. I was on the car.

That would be one of the worst wrecks I've ever seen. That guys all got suspended, like kicked out of the sport suspended forever because they had their, all, like, the guy that wrecked had two trucks. Those two truck, or the owner of those two trucks is thrown out. The guy that wrecked or the guy that caused the wreck? All of them, because they had their cages chopped and lowered, and then the thickness of the tubing was smaller to keep, you know, to try to make the car lighter. They don't tech there?

They, I guess not. don't, you know, they don't drill a hole in the roll cage to see how thick the wall is. But, yeah, so them guys all got, and they're, I mean, the kid, the one guy's lucky to be alive. That's what I was crazy. I saw the pictures of it. Oh, my gosh. Like, he hit his head on the wall. I mean, I don't know how he's alive.

He's just extremely lucky. But man, that was, we were home, we had it on. We have a spotter house at a bunch of us go stay together and we were watching it at the house. I think that's where this man came from. There's a whole bunch of fireball. You want a shot a fireball? Yeah. Yeah.

Might as well. I can't reach a house. Neither wants one. Freddie, are you going to do any more off-season races? Like, Chili Bowl, are you going to spot for Chili Bowl, too? I mean, I don't think they allow spotters at the Chili Bowl. It's Christmas. Take a shot of Fireball.

But I'm going to go. You don't wear for Penske anymore. You can take one. Oh, yeah. He's back. This is a monumental moment. I mean, if you're going to wear your Bill's Santa Claus hat. This is for the Bills fans.

You've got to drown their sorrows because they suck so much. Shut up, Jason. He talks a lot of talk right now. Merry Christmas. When I told Tyler that we were doing this, he acts about doing a shop. Cheers, TJ's Fireball virginity going away right here. Oh, no, no, no. That's gone a long time.

Cheers. It's going to take a second to get out of this little hole. That's what she said. I don't think you could say that. Oh, boy. Cheers. That's a spot right there. That'll warm me up.

Refreshing. The last time I did Fireball, I ended up on stage at a Dale Jr.'s birthday party. Naked? Well, this table is big enough. Now? So it's hard to try. Actually, it wasn't stage. It was a piano.

I think I saw a video. Yeah, you might have. You might have. So, TJ, does that mean that, you know, you no longer shave? You can say whatever you want. Can have opinions. You don't shave? What that?

Like your beard. Have you been at TJ's house? No, look, he has a beard. Oh, oh, a beard. Gotcha. It's Christmas. Okay. Okay.

I don't know. Like, really, it's just the off season right now. We'll get to that. You know your boss. You'll be fine. I do know. I mean, I mean, I'm, might.

Did you see John Daly yesterday on that golf thing? No, huh. Holy cow. I saw a Tiger's kid out there though. Dude,

John Daly, he literally is like a real life Santa Claus. Yeah, he's got a big old white beard. Did you see him smoking a cigarette on the 18th fairway? They're up by,

like they're battling Tiger and his kid to win and they're up by like a stroke on the last hole and he's just burning a cigarette down in the middle of the fairway. Like, he's the best. I saw them, they were wearing like razor back hog stuff on the day before.

Like him and his kid, they were matching. But, I mean, that was, that's a, that, I would go to that tournament. That's so awesome. That was fun to watch, like, everybody playing with their family. It looked fun. Yeah. Tiger's kid looks like he might be pretty good. TJ, what the hell you've been doing?

Babysitting. No. Well, I, uh, took a trip to New York, went to the, um, like, Monday night. Hold on, wait a minute. Well, the real New York. That's not a fucking New York up there. That is Western New York. That sucks.

That's like a different country from New York. Listen. Where the normal people in New York are at. The Western New York's normal people. Yes, I agree. 100%. Listen. You can't say, you can't say,

because they don't even let your teams play in New York. They put the stadium in New Jersey because New York is in New York. So really, I went and watched the only New York football team play, which is the Buffalo Bills. And it was a towgating was fun. You guys would have had a blast. Go through a table? No, because they would all blow away because it was like 50-9-hour wins. Oh, you went to snow game?

Yeah, that was a... Yeah, that was a... Yeah. That was fun. It was awesome. The people's fires were literally, there was like fire blowing through the parking lot. And went to the game. It quit stone before the game, but game was awesome.

I mean... Why don't you invite me to this? I would have went to that. You had to like this game. Yeah. Yeah. And the only, like, normally you go and you tailgate, you cook a little bit. We had trouble keeping the grill lit, even a little one on the back of a tailgate or something.

Oh, you don't eat food. Well... No, just just beer. You missed that on some media content here. This was a night game. Don't forget. Don't forget this is a night game. But no, the game was awesome.

They knew the Patriots know their quarterback so terrible. They let them throw the ball three times that game. Yeah, so terrible is won nine games. I was really hoping he was just going to only throw it that one time, and they were going to like. Me too. I said we were, we may or may not. I have money on the game. So I text Brett.

Like the rule of thumb is if it's raining, you bet the under. If it's snowing, you bet the over. So I said to Brett, I said it's, uh, weather in Buffalo or something. He's like, oh, it's snow and bet the over. I said, no. I said it's also like a 60-mile-an-hour wind. I don't think we're going to bet the over. And so we played the game, and then I forget what the hell.

Mac completed a pass in the fourth quarter. I'm like, well, that's his second throw. And Brett's like, of the game? Yeah, that's it. Two for three, 19 yards total. Yeah. Dude, the kickers before the game, like that was the most fun part of the getting ready for the game

was going in there watching the kickers try to kick. I think I sent you like a video with a punter, right? I saw some of them. I took a live video. It literally just lines dried for like 20 yards and rolled on the ground. Like I feel like I could have done that. But it was a fun trip. Went back and saw a few high school friends.

Did you see that hot girl from Instagram? Leslie? What? How do you remember her name? We don't talk about that. Oh, I stalked her on Instagram. Yeah. No, I didn't.

I only saw a few. I was only there for a few days, so it was hard to. It's hard to see all the girls. With the Niagara Falls. Luckily, did you all see the news? I saw that. That was the next day. Really?

That was literally. Have you ever seen Niagara Falls? I know, not really. Have you ever been Niagara Falls? Yes, twice. Yeah, you know how powerful? Like, when you're standing next to that? I love Niagara Falls.

It's awesome. Have you heard of what happened? Uh-uh. Dude, you know how powerful Niagara Falls is when you're staying next to it, right? Yeah. Like, just tons of water fast. Right. Dude, a lady got off somewhere.

I don't even know where she got off. I didn't see. It wasn't close, I don't think. Dude, like a, like, what was it? Three hundred feet from the fall. Like, a lady got her car. into the river that leads over the falls. A car.

A car. And she was like, what? It was me. It was me. It was a reddick. So they had to block the water to lower the water level. They'd take a helicopter over the falls. I can't believe you didn't see it.

But be careful. She did not make it. She had? I think so. Oh. No, they said she was dead before they took her out. They spent all this time. in effort and trying to, she was dead the whole time, I think.

Or, that's a great story. Jason's starting to show. Yeah, this is ridiculous. Oh, we haven't started yet, my bad. Oh, I mean, we're kind of started. Is that all the fireball we've got for this whole show? Well, I can only bring what I had. That's all you had left?

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What more could I ask for this Christmas? Thank you to our presenting sponsor Offerpad. Now all our listeners can go sell their homes to. When I ask where you heard about Offerpad, please select the NASCAR option so they know we said check. Hey, nice to make it. NASCAR decides to abandon the 550 horsepower and go with 670 horsepower for all tracks, but Daytona, Talladega, and Atlanta, or next year after NASCAR president, Steve Phelps said in November that those against the 550 horsepower are a.

vocal minority. Tyler, I'm throwing you into the fires. He doesn't want a secret. Do you remember the question? That's tough for me to say spot on. You don't like fines, right? I was not there at the meeting. Somebody crashed their car Wednesday.

I was supposed to stick around for the meeting that they had after the test, and I wasn't there for it. So I should have been there a part of those conversations, and I missed all of it. You can just go to our next meeting. On Tuesday. I don't know. I guess me personally, I have to say spot off just because I think there are some mile and a half tracks that we have. Kentucky was one of them. Texas is one of them where I think the 550 package, I mean, I'd say it, but I think it's probably the better package than low down force. Who the fucking invited this guy? I know. I know. Well, look, hey, I'm always been the high horsepower guy. And I mean, it's kind of weird after going through this and doing this test to actually kind of feel like, man, there might be a couple tracks where, 550 might be the best, best race for the fans.

And why is that just because you feel like we can stay packed up more? Yeah, honestly. I mean, there's a couple situations where, you know, a couple of the packages that we did go through on Friday, where I truly felt like what we ran on Wednesday was closer together. It's crazy for me to even think and say, because I've always been a proponent of high horsepower, no down force. So you want the FI's ARCA cars to be faster than the Cub cars?

as some of these racetracks. Honestly, no, but... That's what you're telling me. You're driving me bananas right now. I don't want that. I honestly don't, but I want to put on a good show for the fans, and I think there's a couple tracks that we have that high down force is going to be better.

We were just talking about chesticles. I know. You've got to have big chesticles to drive high horsepower cars. So you tell me, Freddie, would be fast? There's a lot of tracks. There's a lot of tracks where more horsepower and less downforce is exactly what we need. I don't know. I think there's a couple that...

that maybe 550 could have worked out. Should have never gave him a shot. He's drunk. Judging from the last week's test, Tyler probably wants 350, okay? I mean, when we were Atlanta this year, I mean, what? No, no, we were Atlanta this year and last year

when I got in the 550 car. It was the most frustrating thing in the world. When I've always been just, I've just known when you exit turn four at Atlanta and you just miss the line, you're just, I mean, you're on ice, you're just praying you don't hit the wall. You're just like, oh, nice.

No rear. grip, nothing. And we got in the 550 cars, you'd miss the line, you'd shimmy up. But you're still in the gas because the things almost... Glued to the ground. When it would yaw out too far, you know, it would almost bog itself down. And also, there's guys off of Ford Atlanta that chase it to the wall and just burn her stuff up, too. Me. TJ, what do you think?

Or they run the fourth lane? Spot off, spot off. I mean, we've... I don't think there's ever been a show or I've ever haven't wanted... I want 900 horsepower. I mean, I want 900 horsepower with half the spoiler they got right now, because I want to watch, like, I want to watch Tyler go out there and them guys drive that stuff.

So I think it's, I like seeing them turn the car to throttle. I like seeing things like that. So, I don't know. I'm a big, big advocate of more horsepower or the better. I mean, I feel like this is the first time in the history of the world that anybody's preferred four inches over six. but I mean and you might be even looking for two it's the motion of the ocean

it's not the size of the boat I'm talking about spoilers what the fuck are you talking about Santa Claus hats you know I spot on for the fact that they listen to our show I mean I'm sorry that the fact that they listen to the competitors over the fan council with the stupid questions that are on the fan council Freddie it's not the size of the spaces

it's how you wiggle the spoiler okay hey I don't know I I hate to stop the show right now. But what is Roush Racing now called? It's Roush Fenway-Kezlowski. Okay, Roush Fenway-Kislausky-T-J is a hell of a lot better than Pinsky-T-J. Oh, 100% percent.

I'm not sure. Keep going. I'm sorry. We knew this was coming. You guys are going to get the cost of back on me. Brett, what do you think? Spot on. I want to see, man, these people in the media that say lap times don't matter and speed doesn't matter, they're idiots.

That's why you race. The point of racing is to go faster. He just called Dell Jr. An idiot. He doesn't think lap times matter. He lost his mind. I mean, as a kid growing up watching this. He lost his mind, all right.

I understand what you're saying, but when you think about dirty air and the effects that it has, it just, the faster and faster you go, that effect gets way, way, way worse. It does. And the slower we go, as much as it sucks. But if the tire wears out and you can't go wide ass open all the time, that's where I'm a fan. I mean, I am a true believer that the Goodyear monopoly that we see in the sport. And look, I love Good Year. I have good year tires on the majority of my cars.

But you cannot have. I don't know. You cannot have. I just bought another one. Jesus. My baby girl, I can't say it on the show because it's Christmas week. She might listen to the show. She knows now.

But I'm telling you right now, you cannot have Arca Cars going faster than Cup cars. You cannot have a track record at Charlotte Motor Speedway be a 28-6. second lap and then you're coming back to put on a 32 second lap show like i i'm sorry man as growing up a fan of i i came up in dirt track racing which was all about all the dirt track things but when you migrate into the nascar space like you talked about earlier time it's about speed it's about putting that power down it's about spinning your tires when you get on a throttle so for me i but look man this is i said this on the show it should be the hardest to drive it should be the hardest to drive right now the infinity series is am i wrong up until this car i was good

I say this car is pretty hard to drive up there. This car is insane. But we need this car to be hard to drive. We need it to put on a good show. But we also don't need it to come off a turn four at these mile and a halfs looking like it's dead. We got to be able to see the speed, right? So I don't want it to be, though.

I'll go back to Tyler's point about less horsepower. I don't want it to be at the point to where it's not safe because I don't know if we have enough data on this car or data, depending on if you're T. If you're T.J. or Freddie Hay said that word. To where it's not safe. And I don't know if it's safe, right? Everything that I've seen, you're happy?

You're happy? You're happy? Good. Yeah. So if that's the case, I'm all in on 670. I'm all in on Steve Phelps coming out and saying the vocal minority was right and we deserve more horsepower. Well, honestly, you know, I've heard you mention, you know, I'd rather the cars have less horsepower because that's safer it. Hearing that, honestly, I feel almost the opposite, you know.

Like, I'd rather be going through the corner going slower if I'm going to lose control and crash then going wide open at like a hundred two o eight hundred eight hundred hundred eight hundred eighty just going into turn one and then lose control i think that we saw that the other day too when they talked about you know they took the the six inch spoiler off and put a four inch on and bob put out a tweet that was like oh the lap times are the same and i'm like yeah they're the same because they're a little harder to drive now like you you're spending more time off throttle and and now and you saw that and i think it was brad can you tell the difference between the spoilers yeah i'm just saying like can you well end the straightaway oh yeah no we put the

corner like I'm talking like whenever you get to the corner can you feel the less downforce on the rear of the car yeah it was you know it was kind of an interesting you might not be the right one night no I may not be but for me it was an interesting sensation because I kind of felt like the six inch spoiler the the couple of the packages we had the two that we had with six inch spoiler I just felt like there's just percentage wise a little bit too much rear down force still and when we went to the four inch spoiler it felt like running by itself like okay arrow wise we got enough spoiler I off this thing where it feels like it's pretty it's getting close to even so then mechanically we can tighten it up and to me even though we had the least amount of down force on the car to me it felt

like it was the one I could well maybe this well led to my downfall in our run but I thought I could be most aggressive with feel in kind of a tack slide that's what fans want to see though that's what yeah well I mean they all felt like cars what I don't like to see is guys be able to turn from the top to the bottom and the middle of the corner and I feel like with the slower package you can do that. And to me, it's not up to the driver at that point. To me, it's more car. Like, you put you in one of the cars that can do that. Bye. You know what I mean? Like, I like to see guys going there, and like you said, like, whoa, oh, you know what I mean? Like, have to work it. And the guys that are better at prevail, because that's what we kind of grew up watching that stuff. Like, back in the day, when the

cars, like, even at Daytona, man, you see them guys out of turn for, Daytona, man. They were, yeah. One of the things I noticed about, I think it was Brad. that put out the video today where obviously a couple of guys, no matter what package you're running, we're either cracking the throttle a little bit or backing out to 50% or whatever they were doing. But like, once they committed back to it, you were

committed to it. You know, you were never lifting again. There was a couple times in that video where you can't really see what's going on in front of Brad, but in traffic, it sounded like, all right, I'm committed, you know, I feather a little bit of entry, whatever, commit back to throttle, and then he has to crack it again because either, you know, somebody crossed his nose and probably got tied or, you know,

whatever. But once he, you know, you know, I think the problem is you still got to drive the car. You know what I mean? That's what the thing is now. And if you're just able to commit back to throttle and drive it off anyway, you know, no matter what's going on. It's a slot car. So it was good to hear that, you know, people look for off throttle time.

And I'm a big proponent of that, obviously. Brad was. That's what he said. Yeah, if you're just going to drive in, lift a little bit and go right back to it and be wide open, then you're not really accomplishing anything. But if you have to, I'm committed to it, oh, this ain't going to work, whatever, for whatever reason, and have to read it again, I think that's where you're going to see your best thing.

Who at NASCAR asks you? what you think? Well. Freddie? Freddie, yeah. No, I wasn't there Wednesday. Shame on me. I should have been there.

I mean, literally, like, leading into this past week of test, like, does anybody ever come to you and say, Tyler, what do you think? Me personally, probably. So we need to get you on the fan cancel. They didn't, but, I mean, let's be honest, I've, I wasn't there a couple weeks ago at that Charlotte test where they already went through a couple of these things. Austin was driving that car. We had our accident. We got it back. Which was amazing to fix that car and get it back. Unbelievable. A big, big, big deal for teams, right? Yeah. First thing Austin said to me when I,

when I crashed my car Wednesday, he's like, well, you make me feel, you sure made me feel a lot better. I was like, thanks. Appreciate it. Yeah. That was my goal. Yeah. The guys at the shop, we're going to think the same thing. But I will say, Tyler, you're probably communicating feedback to your team who's in turn talking to NASCAR. I highly doubt the they're making decisions off of these tests blindsided. Oh, yeah, no. They're like, like, you know, they had the test a couple weeks ago, like I said, and that that brought them to their decision or the conclusion to that we need to come back

and bring three cars, which I think were, you know, Penske, Gibbs, and Hendrick and run through a couple things, which included the four-inch spoiler. So they're definitely talking to the teams about this because, you know, they do believe that the teams have the best engineers, the smartest brains. like instead of trying to fix this on our own, let's get them involved because, you know, genuinely, you know, I'm as a driver, you know, I want to, you know, I want to put myself in the car that I might be the fastest in, right? But when it comes to deciding this package that we came up with, I think a lot of the drivers were pretty selfless and were pretty up front with what they think was going to be the best race. So if you're there, they're testing safety. Yes.

You ran. Yeah. you ran all the packages from the last week, right? I assume $5.50. So from where you started, scale 1 to 10, whatever, you know, one being the worst car you've ever driven or least fun, so 10 being the most fun, like from where we started was what to where you ended up was what? Yeah, I'd say the last one was my number one of the four packages that we did.

This is what's weird, but the 550, in my opinion, was number two. And that's just because where we were kind of, in the weird middle ground it felt like with the six six inch spoiler um whether it was um well i think we we had a six inch spoiler with with with a taller fin maybe with the spoiler offset and then we had one that was just six and spoiler none of that stuff the one that had more you know the taller shark fin it kind of reminded me of somewhat of like truck racing or that the old cup racing would be to where um the car's just going to get you you don't have enough down force to I guess run wide open for a very long time

so bounce matters from lap one but the cars just seemingly get tighter and tighter and tighter because there's just too much on the rear of the cars and that was the run I think where I got to second and then crashed behind you guys it was just a game of chasing the track to the top of the top of the speedway and then from there it was just going to be

I felt like it was going to turn into a single file you know just rodeo around the top because cars got too tight with where they were at so for me the 550 was best because, or second best because you could run really close, get really good runs. The runs down the straightaways, to me, are way bigger than what we had with the old car.

Oh, they don't, you don't push a car away. With the square or without. There's no bubble. I didn't notice a bubble at all. Like the run carried all the way to the car. I saw one video. I don't know who it was. It was out front.

And then you and somebody else were second and third. And you guys could, they look like you guys could work together and just hawk that first car down, like, very easily. I think it. I forget who it was leading, but it was you, I think you were third and just pushing the guy.

On Wednesday or, Friday. I don't know what day it was. I was on vacation. I mean, I pushed Brad, I think he was I pushed Austin. I was weird to even say Austin in the two and then Brad in the six. I think in the same run there. I thought we had a pretty good little run there a couple times on Friday. I thought it was, I think the last package to me looked the best, but they looked like they had their hands full the most in that last run. I did. I know I saw. Casey, go. We're an hour in this thing. We ain't even moved yet. Spot on, spot off. Steve O'Donnell says he expects everyone to have five cars for the start of the season,

while Denny Hamlin said the panic meter is moving regarding the next gen car supply chain. And Kyle Bush said the parts and pieces are bought at Target during NASCAR Champions Week. Freddie, spot on, spot off. Well, spot off. Kurt Bush, too fast entering. I saw it was, yeah, Blame Kurt. I saw, I think it was Brad that said that they think that they're going to have five cars for both of the RFK teams. So him and Busher for the first five races.

You know what a bit cool if it would have been FKR. Freddie Craft racing? Is that per team or all together? No. Like FKR like, fuck. Oh, just This is a Christmas episode Way to be late

It's going to go a lot more along It's like Effin Kislauski racing Now this isn't just Brad Kislausklazzi racing This is Effin Kislauski racing I thought of what you'd have From what I understand Five for the team So like five total for him and Boucher

And I mean that's gonna be a pretty tough ask So three after California If you go to We're gonna go to a quarter of a quarter of quarter mile track here. And I'm sure we won't get any damage there. But then we're going to follow it up. But how fast are we going to fix those cars?

Well, like I was going to say, gosh, the car, I mean, thanks to Tyler and his teammate, we know that you can fix them fast. If you wreck, just take it to RCR. They know how to fix them fast. I will say, you can't wreck harder than what Austin did that test. That was a hard hit. And it was back in, what, 10 hours? Yeah, it was back that afternoon.

So that was pretty amazing. Those guys got that thing turned around. problem. Here's the difference. What's the problem? We were in Charlotte. Yeah. We ran there.

We run there twice a year. You can't run back to the shop and fix what you. You don't go to the shop. You need to go to Target. We got, we got. We're stealing, though, that these teams have to put the bodies on them at the shop. There's a way to come up with a plan to take that stuff on the road and have a designated space. They're smart enough.

They'll be able to do that. My two biggest concerns are. I agree with that. Daytona and the West Coast swing, especially as early as the West Coast swing is in the season because I mean we've seen guys in the past go through two or three cars themselves at Daytona so if you've got five for a whole team that's you know and obviously you've got to be smart about how hard you want to race in practice how hard do you want to race in the duel but then you talk about the west coast swing I mean you can't wreck one out there and

fix it in a day because it's going to take you a day and I have to get it to the house I think though I think they'll get to the point where they fix them in they'll fix them in the park or whatever I guess it's south pot the south point the south park I South Park. We're going to be like sprint cars out there putting them together, man. It'll be interesting to see if they can do that. But the West Coast swing would be my only concern when you have a limited number of cars like this. Because like I said, you can't just run back to the shop and have one ready to go.

Plus we go to the different tracks we go to. You go to a two mile track, a mile track, and then a mile and a half, or I think it's two mile and a half than a mile. So I don't know how different the setups are going to be. See, I'm on the other. Brennan, if you're listening, just put a hawk out together right now. you're going to make a lot of money off it. I'm on the other end of this spectrum. I think it's getting easier because most of the time

when you wrecked a car, it was going back regardless to get a clip or whatever. Now, I believe these guys are going to fix these things if they want to on the road. I think they can't be able to. I mean, they're going to have to. If they only got five of them, they better figure out how to. Don't wreck. I mean, our car, if we were

You're talking to wrong. Look at him when you say that. If we were in a rush, I mean, we had the car. We could have probably, if we were in a mad dad, rush, you know. I was with driving it back to the shop by 5 o'clock. I mean, if we absolutely had to, we could have sent it right at 5 o'clock after crashing it. Brett, spot on. I'm spot on. Look, for me, here's the big question. How many cars are you going to tear up in Daytona? Because I don't know that those cars are going to be easily repaired

because you're going to be wrecking them at 200 miles an hour and potentially destroying them a total loss, right? But when I saw Austin Dillon's wreck and I see these other wrecks and I see how quickly they can repair the cars, I don't have a fear factor. But if you're a team and you go to Daytona and you crash one in the duel and you crash one in practice and you crash one in the 500 and you're in trouble. And you total two of the three. Because to me, those cars may not be able to be fixed and brought back as quickly as these other ones. I think you're going to be okay. And I think this makes it part of the story at this point in the season, honestly. But the West Coast thing is going to be a challenge. But guess what?

These brainiacs on these teams, they'll figure it out. There's zero doubt in my mind. They'll have it figured out. Yeah. One of the things that I think would be interesting to see going through the year is, Kyle talking about the fact that they make the parts at Target. I mean, who's going to be the first one to get caught with something they made in their shop versus bought from a vendor? Walmart? I mean, yeah.

You know, it's not going to surprise me when somebody does get busted. But I think we heard rumors this week of, you know, NASCAR's talking about it. super stiff penalties if that's the case. And what kind of penalties you look at? Teams would never do that. Yeah. So are they changing, you know, inspection now, realizing that that's something that's probably a concern?

Who knows? I find out. Nobody really knows, I don't think. But I just, you know, what do you think? I mean, obviously you can't, I heard playoff bands are talking about if you get caught with unapproved parts. I mean, it has to be a stiff penalty. It can't be, it can't be a $100,000 fine,

and you lose your crew chief. He's got to go sit in his motor home for three days. You know, it's got to be something. Easy. That's what I got us in the last meeting. Jesus, Freddie. Penalties aren't stiff enough. People be, you know, just like with the last car, people leave a lug amount or two loose. I mean, you got to come out pretty serious.

You're not going to do that anymore. Yeah, you're leaving a lugger on or two. You're losing a wheel or two. But it would be interesting to see that part of it. Spot on, spot off. 2311 racing paid $13.5 million for the Starcom Charter and Denny. and Lynn said we're placing a bet and hopefully our chips don't get taken off the table. Brett.

I mean, based on what he said, he's got two charters. And if he tried to sell him, that's $26 million because he paid $4 million for the last one. So law of averages, he's actually in a pretty good spot. Now, if I'm a startup business and I'm coming in here and my first charter costs me $13 million, I'm probably going to be in a bit of a panic because that startup capital is a lot of money, you know. But here's the thing, man, you got to pay a lot of money. play. I mean, there's this, there's this freaking old rule that there's nothing worse than being poor and running out of something that you really need, you know, but that you can't afford.

But also, there's nothing more frustrating than having money and needing something you can't have, right? And if I'm an owner in this sport right now, and I need a charter and I can't get it, I'm in a world of crap, because this guy, if maybe I'm wrong, I thought they announced Kurt Busch, monster, and a charter. And then guess what happened? He didn't have a charter. So he was in a world of crap. And this is a guy with a lot of money, a lot of backing, Michael Jordan involved.

So you've got to be able to make all those things whole to be able to afford to pay Kurt Bush. He's not cheap. There's no chance Kurt Busch is driving. Oh, hell, they didn't get Freddie for nothing. No. I mean, I got to be able to afford Air Freddy over here. Look at all the firebally brought in. I know.

Stickers. But for me, man, like I look at the sport, and Tyler may not agree with this, I was a big fan. Oh, and all the drivers were making a pile of money. And right now, there's a lot of them. There's a lot of them that aren't. But when I look at other sports, we know what these athletes are making. We know our sport. We used to know exactly what the purse was.

And we knew on paper the driver was getting 40 to 50 percent of that, right? And he deserved it. He's putting his life on the line. He's out there being the spokesperson and then brand ambassador for all these companies. It's a joke what some of these drivers are making in our sport right now. And that's a whole other freaking argument. But Casey, I'm actually spot on for Denny's comments here. And look, man, the charter system, when it came in, I was like, well, it's now a race to 36 cars.

And that's exactly what this is doing. It's still a race to 36 car field. Tyler, spot on, spot off. Well. Spot off for money. I get spot off if it takes away from his New Year's Eve party. I mean, the biggest thing to me is, obviously like Brett talked about, you know, they paid four million. million last year for a charter and now they've paid nine and a half more this year the the the the biggest two

risks one is unrealistic I think the risk you know the I think the charter agreement is up in 2024 yeah I don't think NASCAR is going to pull away the charter agreement so you know that would just the amount of money these teams are spending on charters they did that that would be bad um but two is this new car like the reason why these charter values are going up is because so many people are trying to get into the sport. You look at Colleg Racing buying two charters. Spire, I don't know, they're wheeling and dealing with charters one after another over there. Brilliant. Yeah, I mean, you know, so there's people trying to get in, GMS, you know, all these teams are trying to get in right now. But if this new car is unsuccessful and kind of ruins the product we put on the racetrack,

that's going to devalue your charter way back to where we were maybe last year or even worse. So, you know, the big thing I'm keyed up on is making sure this new car is, you know, exciting to watch continue to drive the price of these charters up really and make this sport more valuable, more appealing to more people and hopefully we want to attract new owners not

have the guys that are in there now trying to give out. T.J. That's a lot for a charter in my opinion. That's kind of market value now. I know. It's crazy how it's going up. It's like they were in a shipping container off the coast or something and didn't he lives in a 34,000

square foot house. Is that big? okay um yeah i don't know what costs more money his charter or his house i would have charged him more i don't know i'm i think somebody tried to i think denny was going to do whatever it took to get a charter this year and it honestly i mean everything denny's kind of done business-wise has been pretty smart um you know denny denny knows what he's doing he had to do this he's got curt in that car he's complimenting denny well i mean he's got Listen, getting... Big, Tyler.

That shot of fireball has him... He's going to loopy over here. It's crazy. I mean, getting Kurt's huge, man. Getting Kurt over there. Huge. Big addition. You know, they're making the right decisions.

I mean, heck, to get a winning your first years, whether or not, no matter how you get, it's pretty cool. You know what I mean? We're going off on a tangent. No more fireball. Kurt Busch to 2311 Motorsports. Racing. Racing.

Sorry. Racing. racing. God of my. It's huge, right? It's huge. Big. But I want to ask Tyler this question.

Bubba is sidelined right now. Okay, he's not in these cars at all. Freddie, when can he get back in the car? January, February? Man, Kurt Busch is a champion. Kurt Busch is a stud. I mean, obviously, we're stating now. We say on here all the time how great you are, Tyler, how great Kurt Busch is.

Is this going to hurt Bubba to be out of the car during this transition for what you see, what you've learned over the past few months, because he's going to get the fire lit up under his butt, in my opinion. And he's either going to get better because of Kurt or he's going to get in the unemployment line because of Kurt. Like, is this, and I'm not asking you to comment on that statement, but is him being out of the car right now hurting or is it evolving so fast that it's not going to hurt him?

Well, there's, I mean, I guess I'm not really answering your question, but I think truly, though, there's pros and cons to this. The pros are you got a guy like Kurt Busch who really understands the race car really well and does how to break it down. A little bit I've talked to him about race cars. It's kind of insane how far he can really break it down and think about what's happening. So there's a lot of pros with that, but certainly the cons that come with it is being in the car, whether it's through these transitions or not, you start to get an understanding for what the car feels

like, the tendencies of it are. Bubba did drive it at Richmond, I believe. I don't know if he had another test. So he has some sort of an idea of what the car drives. like what its tendencies are. But yeah, if you had the opportunity, it was, it was an advantage for sure to be able to be at that test, get a feel for the car, try and understand where the limit is. I don't know where it is.

I tried, though, but that certainly will help because of those things we talked about earlier. You know, if there's truly like a strain or a limit on how many cars do you have at the racetrack and you're going into a race, and you're like, okay, there's a car I don't really know, and we only have a couple cars back of the shop or. or clips in the hauler, like, I can't afford to go out here and crash for three weeks. That can put you in a weird spot as a driver when you need to learn if you're holding yourself back. Yeah. I think that it would be more of a deterrent to us if we knew, all right, this is what we've been running.

You know, if we had the package that we're going to go back to Charlotte with in May, if that's what they ran. But as of right now, they don't really know what they're going to run. You know what I mean? They're still working on that. They're still putting together what these cars are. Obviously, it can't hurt to get in there and make time. And Bubba's going to test.

Bubba will probably test. There's a Phoenix test at the end of January that I think he'll be cleared for. So we will have test time in there. And hopefully by then we'll know exactly what package we're going to be at Phoenix with. And that's what I want to see for Bubba happening, right? I want to see Bubba and Kurt at a test together because I know Kurt can help Bubba Wallace. And I want to see Bubba succeed. I just hope it's not to his detriment right now that he can't be in a race car.

And obviously he had to repair his body. I mean, that's part of being an athlete, right? Fast cars go fast, and they got the right guy to get to help that percentage right now. But help that part of the. I, man, Denny's got to be. Yeah, one still stinks a little bit. Denny's got to be thrill. I mean, he's, when you talk about $13.5 million, that is a pile of cash.

But you had to invest in your company and in your future and in Kurt Bush. And you couldn't do that with some open freaking charter where some crazy formula or a rain plan at qualifying sends you home with Monster Energy and Kurt Bush, you cannot take that risk. Not only that, but I know, I can't remember the numbers right now, and I should have wrote them down when we talked about it. But if you qualify for every race, what was the different? It was like, it was millions of dollars, right, versus, you know, what the charter team makes versus what the open team makes. The least a charter team can make is four and a half a million dollars, isish. Yeah. Right. So they covered Freddie.

They covered Freddie salary and his big ass couch. Almost. No bonuses. No bonuses. We have some very exciting news to share for 2022. Brett, what are we doing? As part of our own Dirty Mo Media Christmas offering for the fans, we're doing something that we've never done before. We're going to actually open a suite up at Las Vegas Motor Speedway, and it's going to be the most extravagant, all-inclusive VVIP, no gimmick NASCAR Cup Series experience, tailored for the Dell Jr. Download fans,

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parking pass and this parking is better parking than the spotters get by the way you get pre-race access to the neon garage neon garage the neon garage is my favorite freaking thing in all of NASCAR as far as fans see every car you see everything you can see all the drivers uh you privately catered all you can eat beverage and beer do you say beer beer beer all you can drink beer if if my guy has a problem during this race i will be coming back to the suite i'm going to wreck my guy during this race and i bet you you there's a way we figure out how to get fireball inlaught in this whole experience too so don't be surprised if you get fireball it does say a beverage um you actually get pre-race access not only to the neon garage but you also get to go to pit road you get to go to driver intros and pit road is really cool you get to meet all the crew members that are out there uh you get access to the restrooms as part

of the sweet experience you don't have to stand in line so you get free beer beer beer included beverage you'll probably see t j in the bathroom because he spends half the race in there anyway uh you get your own scanner and headset you don't have to bring anything with you all you got to do is show up you have to listen to freddie and bubago at it all day long uh you're going to get a swag bag with cool dirty moody media stuff there's going to be a lot of raffles we're going to give away some really cool stuff this is stuff you can't buy i don't know who will or won't sign it but it's going to be stuff you can't get obviously tj is going to be there pre-race hanging out signing autographs taking pictures freddie we'll swing by for the beverage i'll be happy to pop in i'll be really

happy to pop in post-race probably for the beverage or very I will personally be there from the time you get there until the race starts or at least driver intro starts I can commit to that as well we will do obviously a big Q&A and and we've actually called our good friend Dato sloppy yellow as many of you guys know him on Twitter because Dato's a guy he goes to a lot of different races and we were kicking this idea around and Mike and I were like man we need to really bounce this off a race fan and say hey if we're going to be able to do something really cool and offer fans and experience like they've never had before to racetrack.

Let's see what Daddo thinks about it. So we've got Dad on light. Daddo, man, what is your initial thoughts on all of this cool stuff we're doing for the fans? Well, number one, to go see the new car, I'm dying to see how this new car performs. There's going to be changes up until the last possible minute here. So just seeing a new car was exciting to me. So I've never been to Vegas. And so to be able to go to Vegas and to be able to do all the things,

just described, number one, is that's, if I've been to enough races now where I know the value at the racetrack, going and seeing a race is fun, but the driver intro, you know, one, about 10 years ago, I saw Elliott Sadler and, uh, Clint is my boyer walked through the driver intro line. And I made a big lie to them and I told them, hey, boys, uh, this morning I just woke, uh, before I got here, I shot a 14 point buck. I thought Clint Boyer might have shit his pants. And Elliot Sadler turned around and said some unsavory things with a big smile on his face. And it made everybody around me laugh.

It was fantastic. When you get to do the things that you have in this package, it is unlike any other NASCAR experience. The race is great. You're going to have fun at the race. But to be able to do the on-track, the on-site things near the track, it's just you can't put into words if you've never done it. And this is no shit. I'm the last one to anybody about this, but to have

access to people like you and Freddie and TJ, that's where all the information comes from. You go these driver things and you meet a driver. They're all boring and shit. Nobody wants, I mean, they're going to ask the same damn questions. Hey, junior,

how's your dogs? You guys are going to sit down and give the actual real answer to how stuff happens behind the scenes. when you sit down and you talk to people like yourselves on something like this, is you get the actual real story, the value. You can ask a follow-up question. Everybody's going to be paying attention.

I believe it's a small group. I couldn't be more excited to come out there. I'm buying a ticket. I'm going out there for sure. I've met all these people that always go to the Vegas race. I've never been. I'm dying to go. And what a better way for me to get out there.

and go to the Dirty Moe Media Suite where I can sit in, relax, have some food, some drink. I mean, there's nothing bad about it. I'm excited to go. And I was actually pretty glad that something like this was rolling around here after the pandemic and all that stuff. We only consulted with two people. We consulted with you. And I called my buddy Chris Rice. And I was like, man, what do you think?

And he's like, well, I want to come up there. I want to come hang out. I want to come have a beer with the guys. And I'm not lying to you, Chris Rice will literally, the president of Colleg Racing, he'll come up. he will have a beer with these guys before the race and he will answer questions and he said hey I'm going to bring a bunch of cool swag to give away too so that's the only two people we consulted a fan

we consulted an industry member we've not asked anybody else to come right but we probably will so you don't ever know who might or might not pop in there but man I'm excited that you're excited and like you said we have a limited number of tickets man so if you want to come do this you need to buy them and buy them fast because it's it's not often that fans get this type of access

and experience at a cup race I've always stood on pit road and looked up in suites You know when I was a fan going man How do I get up in the suite? Well now this is your chance Yeah I've seen a lot of packages put together over the years Just like you have as well And this in Vegas too

Plenty of places to stay easy to get to the track You got a parking spot when you get there You know a lot of entertainment Especially if Mike Davis is going to be there Because that itself He's entertaining That itself is a win So I mean it's going to be awesome

I can't wait for it I can't believe that this thing is being put together I've been to close to 200 NASCAR races I've never heard of anything like this with the kind of access to the information that you're going to have as a fan and I'm looking forward to it boys how can you turn down a chance to get a picture

with Freddie Kraft I mean that's got to be the biggest draw Freddie will be in the house like you said I will be there I mean I'm essentially committed to being there for hours you know what I mean we're going to be we'll probably get there a couple hours before the race. We'll go straight up to the suite and hang out. But like you said, the on-track stuff is some of the cool stuff that you can't get that anywhere else,

except for a package that somebody puts together like this. So driver intro is going to be up close and personal with these guys. Pit Road. The neon garage is awesome. Not only can you see the cars, it's got a cool walkway when you look down in the garages, but there's a lot of entertainment. I mean, we're talking show girls, boys and girls here. Show girls in the neon garage.

There's bands playing. There's bars. There's beer stands in there, too. There's a fake Elvis dude. There's a fake Elvis. Always. But I mean, you had me at beer here and food. So I can't wait, man.

This is going to be exciting. Like you said, Brett. Limited number you guys aren't going to want to miss this. Las Vegas, food, beer, fireball, a sweet. If it's hot, guess what? You don't care. You want the full experience topped off with a lot of fun. This is it.

This is it. To be able to go there and know I'm going to eat, I'm going to have something to drink and a place to sit. I'll be in good shape. So it's a win-win all the way around for us. us fans. Hopefully you won't be in good shape for long because there's still free beer. Dad, we will see you out there, man.

Have a great Christmas. And, hey, tell your friends about this. Not your will. Y'all'll take care. So here's the deal. There's not many tickets available for this. This is an exclusive opportunity for you race fans. Please visit dirtymomedia.com to learn more about this experience.

And hey, we'll see you in Vegas. And they can buy their tickets right now. It would make for an awesome. some last minute Christmas gift. Viva Las Vegas. Spot on, spot off. Spotter changes for 2022. TJ, do you have something to share? I don't have much

to share at all. There's just a lot of changes. Hey, let's go, TJ. Tell us who you're spotting. Yeah. I'm still, obviously, I'm going to go with Brad. Really? Yeah, you didn't see that. Are you shrieg me? No kidding. Surprise guy. I want him to tell everybody who you spotting for

in Xfinity. Well, yeah. And I'm not going to work with Haley and then, Freddie what are you doing? Why are you not telling us? No, who the Who is his experience? I decided to go work with Brandon. Let's go T.J. With Brandon Brown.

That's awesome. Nice. You and Doug getting. I know. Me, I've worked with Doug Randolph as crew chief a lot. Doug's a great guy and he's a really good crew chief too. So, I mean, you've worked with Doug.

Yeah. I'll tell you, Brandon called me last year about this time, man. And we talked through a lot of stuff. I like that guy. I really do like that guy. He's very marketable, too. So I think there's a lot of changes going on there as well. As far as wanting to make him up.

You haven't done Exfinali full time in how long? Since I've been at Penske. Wow, welcome back. Yeah, I know. We'll be there together, hand in hand. The big question comes is, does Dale Jr. call Brandon and ask him if I can go spot a race for him? That's going to be the question. What's Dale Jr.'s next year?

Martin's do. Mm-hmm. Oh. So, but there's big change to going over there. I'm looking forward to the project. Maybe he gives Brandon a boat. Brinnell. Buy me a boat.

Yeah. Spotter changes. There's tons, man. There's a lot of big drivers, obviously, with a lot of new ones. William Byron? Late. Late spotter change. Very late spotter change.

William Byron, Ricky Stenhouse. Yeah, they swap. Tab Boyd's going Ricky Stenhouse. Yeah, I got them all this. Frank Danny's going. Colleg. Frank Denny, yeah. Tyler Green going from Kurt Busch to Harrison.

Some people could look at that as maybe a step back. I don't know. It's hard to say because of the team, you know, it's a good spot to go. But, I mean, this is a great question, right? Tyler Green's young. Tyler Green's not my age. He's not 40 plus. I don't even know how old I am at this point.

How old is Harrison Burton? Would you rather be with a guy that the window is closing? Because Kurt Busch, look, he ain't going to be around in six years. Harrison Burton, if he does well, he will. I mean, what I would rather, if I'm going to. You said it, though. But if he does. If he does well.

What if he doesn't do well in two years? Well, but let's look at, I mean, we just saw a spotter, Campbell survive at Penske because Penske liked him. They kept him in house, right? I personally, if I were Tyler Green, I would pick Tyler Redick hands down over Denny Hamlin because Tyler Redick is a good race car driver who I think is going to be around in six years. I hope you are, Tyler.

I hope I don't think Denny Hamlin is going to be driving in six years, right? So if I'm Tyler Green at this point in his career, I'm going to go with a young guy that I think has talent and obviously has some backing, has a legacy in the sport. I mean, we watched the Tiger Woods thing yesterday. How excited were you watching Tiger Woods with his son play golf? No different for me watching these kids come up that they had a famous dad that raised. To counter this, though, if, like you said, with Doug, okay, he goes to with Kurt, they like him over there. They bring another young guy in, oh, we're going to keep Tyler with this guy.

Then you got longevity at the place with a young guy. So it could go the other way as well. Which is what Doug ended up with at Penske, because they kept him in house to bring the young guy Syngrick in to hopefully mentor him. Here's what you don't want to see happen. You don't want to see, and I'm going to call these guys out. You don't want to see Chase Briscoe, a rookie with Joe. I don't know Joe's last name. White.

White, I like Joe White. A rookie. You don't want to see a rookie spotter with a rookie driver. You also don't want to see a rookie driver with a rookie crew chief. Those two things are a recipe for disaster. Prove me wrong. Well, there was, they did make a change. I mean, we saw, where was it, Kansas or whatever, they put a different guy on the roof for Ricky,

and that lasted one race. Actually, it lasted about half a lap. And that guy wasn't a spotter. Exactly. That's what I'm saying, though. That guy was a crew chief. He was a car chief who you thought could spot. That's not my point.

My point is tell me a rookie cup driver and a rookie spotter that has gotten together and done well. No, it's not. I'm waiting. Especially in this package. I'll wait. I'll sit here. Like, obviously you said, you know, you used Tyler as an example. Say you pick Tyler over Denny.

Hamelin. It's easy to pick Tyler over Danny Hamlet or pretty much anybody when he comes in as a two-time Xfinity champion multiple-time winner, you know, okay, that's great. Harrison's won four races, right? I mean, it's not, you know, and it's not nothing wrong with that. Nothing to, you know, shake a stick at. But, you know, at the same time, you've got Kurt Busch. And Kurt Busch, yes, the window is closing on Kurt. But is it closing next year? I don't think so. It's probably not closing in two years. You know, it could. He's still very competitive. But, you know, I don't think he's, I think he would like to stay around a few more years. And now if you go over there and win with Kurt, like TJ said,

and Kurt says, all, I'm going to retire now. They're going to bring somebody in over there. They're going to have probably more than two cars in the near future. So now you've got a home at 23 where, oh, this is Tyler's come over here in one races with Kurt. You know, it's a decision. And we talked about, I sat down with you two years ago when I was a Johnny Davis doing Garrett Smithley.

And I said, you know, I had an opportunity to go to colleague for at the time it was like seven races. Is that why you didn't clear him? Yeah, I was trying to get fired. But and the thing that I said was, you know, one of things that we talked about was, where can you win? If you want to make a name for yourself as a spotter, you need to win races. Well, if that's the case, where's your best chance to win races next year? With Harrison Burton in the 22 car or 21 car or Kurt Busch in the 45? I look at it differently, man. I look at it as Tyler is an established spotter. He's not a guy that's trying to get somewhere fast, right? I mean, it's no different, man. Tyler Mon

got the break of a lifetime last year. He got to go spot for, in my opinion, the greatest race car driver in the world. And I said on this podcast, all he needs to do is not this up. Guess what Tyler Mon came up to me on the roof and said. I heard what you said on the podcast. I was like, yeah, don't fuck this up. Guess what else I told him, stop spotting for all the boxes that running the back and wreck every week because your name is going to be affiliated with that. It's going to be associated with that. And if this Kyle Arson thing doesn't work out, Nobody else is going to touch you. Get off those bad cars and start driving, start spotting for guys that can actually drive.

So what if Harrison goes and struggles is Tyler Stocklow? No, I don't think so. Yeah, I think Tyler's been around long enough. Yeah, he should be fine. It's just, you know, it's an interesting, and I don't think Tyler made the wrong decision. I just think that it's an interesting debate. I think Tyler Mon changed the game, better or worse for the spotters, right? He came off a Rick Ware racing, and he just won nine or ten races and a championship.

So now, Stuart Haas is kind of rolling the dice, and they're going with a young guy. Joe Campbell, they're going to try it out from Rick Ware Racing, right? Is it the right thing? I don't know. We'll know in 10 weeks. It won't take that long to figure it out. But, I mean, look, fast cars go fast. It's harder to spot, just like for you, Tyler.

It's harder to drive a car that's not competitive than it is. Same thing for us. If the car's fast, it's easy to spot. If you're back there in that hornet's nest from 12th to 20 second, holy cow, talking your brain's out, trying to help them, trying to get. give you information. But I mean, that's not, I'm going to go out on another limb. There's 10 or 12 of us that really know everything about what's going on.

There's 10 or 12 up there that have no idea what's going on. Am I wrong? That's true. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I have spotters walking out all the time asking me a question. I look at them, I'm like, are you kidding me right now? Are you seriously asking me?

You're a cup spotter and you don't know the answer to this question. And some of those guys just made moves to big rides. So I hope they did her homework over the winter. So here's the rundown. Tyler Green, Harrison Burton, Tad Boyd, Stenhouse. Some guy named T.J. Sucks is going to Keslowski. I like T.J. is a lot better. TJ's getting better.

We'll see how it comes. He's drunk. He's a f***er racing. It's crazy to how that shit. It changed in Michigan last year when it just went from like, I don't know what. What happened? We talked about Joe Campbell. That's another one that's going to be interesting.

He'd come off Rick Ware car going to Briscoe. Who has a lot of people who think he's a great spotter and lower series. I'm expecting big things. does a really good job as long as he can break out of his shell a little bit. Joe, he's the quietest guy on the planet. Doug Campbell-Sindrick, B-Lions is a big deal to go to Byron there. It's a kind of reunion for them from late model days. Kurt has hired Jason Jarrett to be my teammate next year, which I love Jason Jarrett.

Probably the nicest guy anywhere. Should we talk about that one? Which one? Monet's a Tide, I don't know. That's awesome. Chris Monez, Tide, Elyleon. That's a good thing. I wouldn't tweet it.

Front row, I don't know who they've got. I know Clayton, Clayton's been kind of under the weather. They were both at tests recently. And Crazy? Crazy was there. Crazy. So I wasn't sure if Crazy was going to do. I'm pretty sure.

Well, he was there on Friday. Yeah, so that's fine. That's great. And who's driving that car? Todd Gilliland, yeah. That's a big upgrade. Nothing against Alfredo. But Todd Gilliland has a lot of experience.

Todd grew a lot last year in the trucks. Yeah. I mean, he figured it out. Yeah. Alfredo was in over his head. because he needs experience. You take a guy that didn't very experienced, Tyler, and go to a team that's not fast.

That's hard. It's tough. And I think John Hunter did a good job in that car the year before. I thought he did. He did. First half of season, he definitely did. He did really good. He only lost his speed.

I know. That was. Yeah. You got a win because I've got trophies. These two are like twins in a way. I feel like either one of them, like the same thing's going to happen.

Going to have a lot of fun. Probably going to get in a lot of trouble with our significant others. I don't know. No offense, Brad. I think I go with Freddie. I don't like me. I recently,

somebody, I forget where I was. I recently told somebody if I wasn't spot for Bub, I was going to spot for Tyler. I think it was like I did like a Q&A on my way to snowball or something like that. Sorry, Derek.

You're fired next year. Oh, Derek's good. Me and Derek are real close. Does he make you call him Daddy too? No, I'd do it on my own. I heard about that from way, way back, and I just, I think it's funny. That's so creepy. That is creepy.

It is creepy, but who cares? People that don't know are, like, weirded out, and that's half the fun for me. I love it. NASCAR is reportedly spending just over $1 million to build the LA Coliseum track for the February 6th clash. That's about what I got for that. You think bad, you know? Brett. You think they got a loan for a million dollars enough?

That's my question. Well, I think it depends what it said. It's probably just building materials. Yeah. I mean, my fear is this. Wood. My fear is this. We have racetracks that have been around forever.

And I have sat in the Kentucky Speedway parking lot for three days because of the weepers. And it would not stop, right? So I've also sat at Pocono where turn three, I guess we call it turn three, started coming apart on the bottom of the racetrack. so can we spend a million dollars is that enough money to make a racetrack that doesn't exist hold up for the amount of practice and qualifying and racing that we're about to go do and if the answer is yes then i'm i'm all for it to me a million dollars for nascar didn't a lot of money it's only a quarter mile i mean we think about it that way yeah hell he covered that sideways of charlie have you seen how long it takes to fix a quarter mile of i 77 out here you couldn't

fix it between now and january to save your life are we pretending like a million dollars is a lot of money to NASCAR. I mean, that's like in Ben Kennedy's couch. It's not even a lot of money. Tyler Redding. I mean, I mean,

it's a billion dollar company. I mean, I think if you were to look at the line items of everything that includes, there are a lot of things such as sponsorship money, such as other things that NASCAR is doing that is not included in this $1 million. And they probably have support from the city as well. Denny Hamlet just paid $13 million for a charter. We're going to pay a million bucks.

to go build a surface. You want a short track. Just be happy, man. It's Christmas. I mean, ask me a question. Jesus. You should have wore all green today. I told him to wear a Grinch costume.

Ready. My biggest thing with this Bowman Gray race here that we're getting ready to do is I see all these people on social media that are saying, if we're going to do that, why are we going all the way to California? Let's run Bowman Gray. No. I don't know. maybe math wasn't in your strong suit, but Bowman Gray holds roughly 20,000 people.

Wow, that's more than I thought. And the Coliseum holds roughly 80,000 people. Now, if you cut the corner out where I think they're going to put a stage, we saw some, you know, we were on Ticketmaster today looking at some of the available seating. Tickets was low as 65 bucks. Which is a lot. No, 65 is not a lot. There's a lot of open seating, I should say.

But, I mean, we're talking about three times the size of Bowman Gray Stadium. We're talking about Los Angeles, which is slightly bigger market than Winston-Salem. Barely. And we're talking about Super Bowl Week, maybe one of the first events of Super Bowl Week. I love that we're running before Super Bowl. From a marketing standpoint. Especially the bills are in it. You know, that's not.

It's called the Patriots. Easy. Jesus. Every angle. A marketing standpoint, this is a can't miss. You know what I mean? And the show that we're going to put on is more than likely going to be a shisho. I mean, and that's awesome for the fans.

The fans are going to love it. Now, does that offset the fact that we're taking brand new, very expensive race cars to be part of this show? Like, the line that I'm worried about is entertainment for the fans. The line you're worried about is the want to pee. And what it's going to cost these teams in, first of all, getting to Los Angeles to run this race logistically. and then what we're going to do, now we've got to fix these cars before we can go,

which Tyler and them have already proved that we can fix them. That's just be a body or two. No problem. You know, so, but I'm just saying, like, monetarily, it's, you know,

it's not going to be cheap. So, I mean, where's that line? I don't know. Let's go to the next question. Fred, just ruin this one. It's got to be a good show.

That's what we got to do. I'm looking forward to it. I think it's going to be great. I think it's going to be great. I think it's going to be great for the fans. It's just, what are you hearing about this surface though honestly well um actually i had um some involvement um in kind of trying to come up with the size the banking um you know of what the track was

going to kind of look like with with high racing and nascar i'm just kidding no and you know we went through a couple things and um where they landed kind of makes sense from the the fans experience side you know we i think there was a desire to have a little bit more banking kind of to help the speed a little bit. But as we increase the degree of the ramp in the corner, you were starting to lose a good amount of seats around the stadium. So they kind of got it in a pretty good spot, I think. You know, it's important to, you know, have it wide enough,

where if something happens, you don't just stop, and the whole field has to stop or go piling into it. But it's just be interested to see how those cars race at, I guess, that speed. Where do the haulers park? Do we know? I couldn't tell you, I do this. I'm sure in the park. Those details.

I got to say, all over. races we're going to run this year, and this is going to sound crazy, I am the most excited to say that I'm going to work a race at the L.A. Coliseum. Because I am a sports fan, and I know the history of the place. And first of all, man, when I heard, you know, the L.A. thing, I was like, I don't know. As time has changed, I am literally the most excited about this race and this flight of anything I'm going to do. This flight? All year. I can't. I'm literally, I can't. You are not excited by the flight. You are not driving. You are full of if you love me. I hate. I hate it. I hate it. He must have first class.

He always has first class, but he's still. Now, Chris Rice is going to bring me Chris Rice's. He's going to bring him fireball on my airplane, on his airplane, on the team plane. Sorry, I don't have my own plane. But literally, I can't wait to say that I've worked a freaking race, a NASCAR race at the L.A. Coliseum. Like, how bad ass is the atmosphere is going to be great. And with the new car and everything, I mean, there's a lot of potential on the horizon.

I mean, it was said by Patrick Rogers that 60% of fans in attendance, it could potentially be their first race. That's huge for us. And it could be awesome. Huge. I'm excited. Tyler, what do you think the track is going to drive like, though, honestly? Like, you being involved as you have been. Yeah.

What do you compare it to? I mean, well, I didn't do a lot of short track racing on asphalt growing up. But when I think of what I see it at Bowman Gray, other real, real bowl rings, I mean, even along the lines like, indoor. Is it like a Salem, Virginia? I don't know how much you know about Salem. I don't either. What the hell is Salem, Virginia?

Maybe it's not Virginia. I mean, it's Salem. What the hell is he? Jason Jarrett. Salem, like Indiana? Indiana, yes, sorry.

No, it's got no banking. So the shit is, to me, like, when you think of Roman Gray, you know, really wide corners, really short straightaways, to me this kind of, from what I felt on iriscing reminds me of like a Martinsville just in half, or just, shrunk down. But the one thing that was just a little odd is the straightaways are a little bit

round. So that's the one thing that almost gives it that somewhat, I guess, sort of shape. Is there an inside wall? All the way, like way, way inside. That's where, like, cars will be staged, I believe, for, I could be wrong on that. But I think there's going to be something in the infill. I think some cars staged in between the heat races. You can't just hook the left at the 50-yard line and drive across the track and wipe somebody out. Yeah, you can't have a, like, chili bowl, you can't cut out half the track. Yeah, they don't have that. Spot on, spot off, the 2022 practice and qualifying format.

Jason. What a great segue. What a good idea. Brilliant topic. So two groups of 15-minute practice at ovals, 20 minutes at road courses, 50 minutes of Daytona 500 in select ovals, 100-minute Bristol dirt, none at Talladega or August Daytona. Then qualifying is two groups, a single car for ovals,

group for road courses, and the top five in each group advance to the second round. Boy, I'm lost. Hallelujah on no group qualifying. Somebody text me when I got a bit of track. Could you start over? Do we need to write this down? For me, the biggest thing when I look at this is

I got to say spot on because I think it'll be a good show for the fans. It's going to be condensed down. You know, you're going to be able to see some practice and then they're going to go out and qualify. I guess the biggest thing that is concerned for me is what's going to happen when we got this tight show

and someone in the exf-well, I guess mainly for the cup side, maybe we'll see Xfinity and truck fall suit in some way. But what happens when a car five minutes into your 50-minute practice session blows a tire, spins out, and you have to red flag it. Do you let everyone come back down pit road and go back out and finish their 10-minute warm-up? Are you going to have to roll it into the next one? And then you fall in this place of, especially a lot of these tracks, if we have less downforce and handling matters, that's your only,

idea to figure out, am I going to be dog, am I going to be screwed in 20 laps? I think that this is kind of built around a television window, obviously. And to your point, like, what are you willing to do here? You know, if we wreck, are you going to throw the red? I think, I mean, I think,

hopefully, obviously you have to throw the red and give everybody equal time. My question is, like, say, you know, where teams I think are going to get involved and maybe get upset are, all right, this first group goes out, and now they're sitting there, cooling their stuff down before they go out for qualifying while the next, you know, is there going to be, I'm assuming

there's going to be equal time allotted for each group to cool down the same. You know, one group's not going to be sitting there for an hour cooling down while the next group comes back out. But that's the only thing I can see where teams are going to be like, well, damn, that first group sat there and cooled their car down for, you know, 45 minutes and we only got 20, you know, our hotter to go back out there. So I can see, you know, there's going to be obviously bugs to work out like there's anything else we've done for the first time. But my biggest thing was, you know, we heard rumors about potential group quality And I was like, that is going to be a disaster.

So I was happy to see on the ovals that it's going to be single car qualifying. Yeah, I mean, that's another point is, you know, even though it's 10, 15 minutes, right? What, you know, the guys, the group that goes out after the first or the second group, you know, each group is going to be at a disadvantage if it's in the daytime. If it's cooling off, there's going to be an advantage to the group of cars that go out if the sun's going down. So those are little little things that they're working out. Short sessions for practice. Can you make changes to these cars that quickly?

You have a box that you'll be able to work in. I think you'll be kind of, I mean, we've made some changes in pretty quick time. We're getting faster at the turnaround time. I think you'll be able to make fairly significant changes. You're not going to be able to go back in the, you know, like a lot of crew chiefs and teams do on days that they practice terrible. You know, you're not going to be able to go back to the computer, come up with something different and throw the whole kitchen sink at it,

but you're able to make a pretty good effort. to put it in a better direction. For an example, you know, I was there. We tested that roval test, which you were at. And it was a fairly significant amount of time to change shocks and springs, say. You know, have we gotten better at that? I mean, obviously it was the first time anybody was doing it. So, you know, I mean, I'm talking.

It would have taken the entire practice time that they have a lot of to change a shock. You know what I mean? So what's the biggest part of the car you can change to get big results in a short time, like this practice one to man I think it'd be you know probably

if they allow it you know moving weight I don't know I don't know if that would be a thing you know we'll be able to go up scales and move the lead in the car you know

but I'd say besides that you know shock and spring adjustments you know just in the wedge yeah you might mock up you might mock more stuff up at the shop

now you know what I mean yeah I mean I think a lot of teams will be you know going at the shop. How long is it going to take? The only thing that we brought from the old car to the new car is the seat and the steering wheel, right? Yeah, and the drivers.

And the driver. Thank God we should have left some of them. We should vote on at least one guy going off the island. Spot on, spot off. Terry Bradshaw compares the NFL's COVID policy changes to NASCAR, saying because NASCAR is big at changing rules right in the middle of the season. TJ. You can't talk shit about Terry Bradshaw.

Terry Breschal said this on Fox yesterday in the middle of the NFL broadcast. I mean, everything, I don't, I mean, how do you not make changes in the middle of a pandemic, stuff like that? There's been a lot of things that have, you know, there's also been some questionable calls that were made with some changes. But, you know, for the, we have a very long season, you know, very, those guys, the NFL season is, what, half as long as ours? 16 weeks, yeah. Yeah, so it's like about half, it's about half as long as ours. So you've got more time to sit down and think about things like we just ended. It seemed like we just ended, what, like a month ago?

Yeah, like we're getting ready to go back again. So I don't know. I don't think there's – I get it. I think this – we see this a lot in our sport, especially around my team. There's just a lot of uninformed opinions out there in the world, and this is one of them. I don't – I'm spot off because I don't know what he's talking about. We change stuff in the middle of season. We change stuff in the middle of the race.

Well, I don't see him bashing Formula One. I was getting ready to say. I mean, we look like darling for the FAA. Right. Are you just making comments because you know that there won't be a hauler meeting this week? No, actually, I'm being funny because I think it, I mean, you look at Bristol and we did away with the double-file restarted right in the middle of race. I think Terry Brett Shaw makes a lot of sense. I mean, I'm not going to dispute what a legend says.

It ain't my place. Hall of Famer. I went to a Michael Waltrip and Darrell Wallach. Altrip charity function, and he was the MC. And I'm telling you what, it was two hours of unbelievable fun. Yeah, it was in Nashville. It seems energetic. Man, he was freaking awesome.

I didn't not get an opportunity to meet him, but holy cow, he was awesome. He can kiss my. Just like, just looked Michael that one time. Yeah. You didn't get the opportunity to see Michael that one time. Freddie screwed me on the Michael Jordan intro. Thanks, Freddie. They're talking about stickers.

You're welcome. I don't know. I'm spot off on this. I think he's had his reality TV show too long. He's starting to make stuff up. Yeah. I'm not about that. Spot on, spot off.

Mike Harmon penalized 75 points and 50,000 for violating testing rules by running an Xfinity Series car at a charity event in Rockingham. Freddie. Oh, boy. I was trying to get through a whole Christmas show without calling anybody an idiot. Yeah, right. And here we are, probably going straight to the Wooden Idiot Hall of Fame. I mean, nobody in the world is going to know about this happening

until Mike Harmon Racing tweets a picture of the boss man making laps at Rockingham. I mean, that's a nice picture. Both cars, good shop photo, cost 50 grand. I hope it was worth it. But, I mean, it's $50,000 a lot of money. Especially of Mike Harmon. You know what I mean?

And then on top of that, so you can find 50 grand. Listen, this, again, again, you had no reason to even take this picture, or at least post it. You can have all the reason in the world to take it. But $50,000, $75 points. Well, let me tell you something. They got 166 points last year. So at that rate, it's going to be 15 races before they're back to zero.

So that'll be exciting to watch. We can track that through the year. They lose their crew chief for six weeks, and we've kind of downplayed that on times on here about the crew chief don't matter. At a place like Mike Harmon racing, the crew chief matters a lot more. One less person. It's a body. But on top of that, it's probably colleague racing. They don't have a four fleet of guys.

Yeah, they don't have a group of high-level engineers that we can kind of plug in and go, all right, Mike, you know, we got another guy. You know, this crew chief probably meant a lot more to them than it does to, you know, some other teams. But, you know, this, obviously we saw that people, oh, my God, it's only Mike Harmon racing, and they shouldn't have done this. They weren't really racing. It's got to be black and white because the minute. Next thing you know, Tyler Reddick's going to rock an hour.

The minute you give these guys an inch, they're going to take five miles. You know what I mean? And there's no chance it was any advantage to Mike Harmon racing. Are you sure? But teams will figure out a way to make this an advantage. They'll be teams having charity events across the country next week or, you know, throwback Sunday at a racetrack. Because especially with this new car, any time on the, any testing time is invaluable.

So, you know, whether or not, however you feel, about the old, what is it called? Track attack. Track attack process over there at the Hendrick. You know, people are going to take advantage any way they can, and we have to be black and white about it no matter who it is. We see it right now with testing. We're testing.

You know, Rick Ware Racing and Starcom are out there testing, Stuart Haas and RCR cars. So why is that okay? Why is the track attack thing okay? Because they don't run the same motor as the cup car. Explain the track attack a little bit. I do that the same motor. I'm just saying it.

So track attack is Hendricks. Hendrick has a program in place where they take old cup cars and we'll sell them to type T.J. And it comes with the old style cup motor. So that's what they're out there running these cars at road courses. And people have accredited to their road course success to it. But they skirt the rule by not running the exact same package that we have in the cup series. So, you know, is it an advantage to them? Obviously, I think it shows that it probably is.

but, you know, they also do it the right way where we saw guys have taken, I forget where it was, Daytona Road course, I think somebody went and ran their car and ex-Findy car around there. So, you know, you have to be black and white with these rules because we've seen in the past across anything in NASCAR. If you give these guys a little bit of room, they're going to blow it wide open.

Always. All right, I think it's time to have some Christmas fun. We're going to play DBC's White Elephants. So it's time to play a DBC edition of White Elephant. We have five gifts on the table. I'll randomly draw someone to go first. They will open a gift. Then the second person I draw can either steal that first gift or open a new one.

So Freddie, you're up first. You pick a gift and open it from that pile right in front of you. And then they can steal my present, right? Yes. Well, I mean, you won the DBC pick, so can I open my before I still is? What? We're going in order of DBC success, right? Yeah.

Random draw. Random draw. That sucks. I'm worried about it. Why is this shaking? Oh, John. Hunter got you then. Those are reed glasses. They finally showed up.

Oh my gosh. They are corrective. Those are 2.7-5s, dude. I can't see. Look at your, look it up close to your paper. Look how zoomed in it is. I know.

Dude, imagine. I feel like you at that restaurant. Freddy. Freddy, sit down. You cannot go to the bathroom. Freddie, hand me that one that looks like an apple pie. Yeah, that one looks like an apple pie.

You not ever had that. The hell one looks like an apple pie. Oh, McDonald's. It looks like a McDonald's apple pie. apple pie. He's right. I'm telling you right now. Fred, take your glasses off. He can't see. All right. I have

some... It just fell apart. Lip lipstick appears. Yeah, yeah. I can't wait to steal that one. Is it used or... Casey you up? That's no good. TJ, you pick next. Pick a box or steal one of their gifts. You don't want my glasses? Oh, wow, you know, oh,

look at that. Well, now we can't change that. Easy. And now we've got... Easy. Well, at least it's pretty obvious you've never done it before. Oh, wow. I'm really hoping this is... It doesn't look like you put any on.

This could be... What do you think this is? It could be Dale Jr.'s checkbook. It looks peat. It is... Well, yeah, but, like, you got one spot where it was pretty heavy. Yeah, just leave it. It's okay.

You look great. Brett now's lip gloss on for the listeners at home. What if I wanted to take your present? You can still take it? What? No, it's not an iPhone. It's the lightest iPhone that I've ever seen my entire life. Straight from Apple.

I'm getting ready to say. Oh, hey, this is awesome. More fireball. Hey, look, hey. Whoa, hey. Whoa, hey, look at all. Damn it. You knew that it was there the whole time?

Tyler. Tyler can either steal something or pick a new gift. Oh, Tyler, steal that, split it. You b-b-e-ha-ha-ha-ha. Well, you can't do anything anyway. Casey, you're up. Can I drink it? You get to take.

I'm stealing it. Now I get to open another one. Yeah. Open another fireball. Who still goes, Casey? Yeah, she'll go last. Exactly. So I have like the best.

I get to pick whoever. I will hunt you down. TJ's opening the present. Rapped greatly by Jason. Oh, you're going to want it. What is it? You're going to need it. Geez.

It's a pregnancy test Oh my god Casey No it's not Whoa whoa You're still attached Too much fireball TJ opened a pregnancy test

It looks like And he's delivering it to Casey So Tj opens the last one too Yeah as you guess Casey had no choice Where's the fireball Because I want to prove that I am not Preating

Well It's gone Fireball's gone Wait does that mean Tyler gets a pregnancy test So, you want a model here. TJ, this is yours. Hit me the other one.

I want that other games. No, you get the pregnancy test. I don't want this. Just open it for. It won't be needed for a while. Open it for. Tell her what she's got. Tell her what she's won, Bob.

All right. This has been great. I mean, I've lost your fireball. Oh, this pregnancy test. I mean, Casey, you're much better off with that one because if you had this one, it's going to be a mess. I mean. What is it?

Lego! Some broken toes. You are actually not allowed to have these because they're just going to go everywhere. Well, I really don't want this. Nothing worse than stepping on a Lego. Where's the firebolt? You can't do it. There you go.

Yeah. Right here, Casey, you got screwed on this whole gift thing. Tyler, do you recognize that color block on the racetrack? I'm not sure if you've seen a car make blocks like that before. Contact with, like, round ones? Yeah. And they were filled with sand. I honestly don't know if we should send that pregnancy test home with Tyler.

I don't think that... Spied it under the seat in his car. No, that is how you get me killed. She'll get in the car and see one in the passenger. And that will be the end of me. That'll be the end of Tyler. Oh, my gosh. Where we at?

Next up, we're playing the DBC Naudy List game, so everyone has been assigned a person to explain why they're on the Nottie list. Okay, T.J, you're up first. Say who you're assigned to, and the reason for being on the Naudy List this year. Well, I was assigned with the awesome task of having Casey. She's so sweet, though.

How would you ever put it on a naughty list? I know this was a really hard. This time the first guy ever took notes. Did you really take notes? I wanted to tell how awesome you were. But this is for the naughty list, so I had to stray a little bit for Casey. You know, despite making flight attendants. and stewardess at restaurants

want to quit or double, you know, think about what they're doing for a living. You know, servers everywhere have just left restaurants because of you. That's good enough. I don't think that's why nobody's in the restaurants working anymore. It's Casey.

So, you know, you're always late, which... It's Christmas, T. It is, but this is why she's on the naughty list. You've single-handedly made Chad want a bigger house. just so he could be away from you. I said what reason, TJ? Oh, wait. I thought there was an S on that.

I don't know. I only had one. But at the end of the day, the biggest reason for being on the naughty list is going to be nice. Is basically taking Brett for so long

before you set up for him. And honestly, I have one other reason that this is honestly my main reason why you're not a list because you're by far the best looking host on the show. Wow. I'm offended.

I was going to say. It should be Freddie. I thought it was me. Wow. I don't know if I should be offended or... Well, at least you went first because now Casey gets... Casey, we'll give you 10 minutes of changers if you have TJ. Well, no, I was actually going to be nice.

I was nice. Don't be blinded by the nice thing he said. Yeah, like, he kind of beat up for it at the end. No, he didn't. That was pretty nice to you, right? At the end. Casey, he said you're the prettiest host. Out of me, him, you, and T.

I mean, I accept this. Jesus. Jason's cute I also had TJ And I will say the first half of the season So up until Michigan You were definitely on the nice list Because you just wouldn't have an opinion on anything

So you just stayed Switzerland or Sweden No, but you didn't want to get in trouble After Michigan I don't know what happened But um I mean, you kind of are almost getting to Brett's level. Yeah, he turned into a villain. Yeah. What's what he did to Austin Dylan?

I thought I was a villain. I went from getting cheered to boot. I thought that's what they did to villains. You literally filmed me walking in when I was only... You were late. I was 30 seconds late. Minute and a half, I checked. No, that's a lie.

I walked in the door when it was on the 30 mark. That clock's now, right? We go by iPhones. Tyler's got a video We have a video of Tyler looking at his phone for that It was 31 That's late

So I also was going to tweet this But Brett Brett does not follow instructions And it was supposed to be a surprise So I don't know why he tweeted Why I was on the Nautilus He was over there going like this with his hat I said he should be on TikTok

Not understanding the assignment T-J you're on the Nottie list Because well Look at you now Like, I don't know who you are. Who are you? Really? You've changed.

He's a bills fan that wouldn't go through the table. Yeah. Who's next? All right, Brett. I wonder who you had. I had Freddie. Why is he on the Nautilus? Let me tell you something.

Be careful. You gave me the worst one. Story. You need to hear the story. If he tells that story, Charleston, we'll have some stories. Oh, yeah. Are we talking about today?

No. Twitter said that Freddy should be on an audience because he won't share his Columbia story. Oh, yeah. And I'm not at will to share it yet. Here's my text exchange with Freddie from two days ago. Hey, Freddie, what's your legal full name? He says, Frederick James Craft.

I said, awesome. Send me a signature so I can break the law. I need to forge your name. Let's read what it's. If you're going to do this, read what it says. I said, send me a signature so I can break the law off the bat and forge your name. And you said, like a picture of one, I'm hammered. And I said, yes, send a.

picture of your signature. It says SIG. His next reply is, you have to explain. I said, sign a fucking napkin and send me a picture of your signature. So that goes to show how Freddie and our relationship works. But I've got to say, T.J. It has to be the fact that Michael Jordan was at the racetrack,

and I didn't get an opportunity to meet him because Freddie didn't tell me to come to the trailer. When I volunteered my services to be a second spotter for Bubba, which it took me six months to send an invoice, which was my fault. I guess I literally was doing it out of goodness of my heart to help a friend, Tyler, and he didn't let me meet Michael Jordan. So I'm up off. Why did you need a signature? Because I'm forging his name for something.

That's what I want to know. I was signing a check. It's going in the Air Freddy logo. The next. Yeah, I had to pay for the Santa. Yeah. All right, Fred, who'd you have? I had Jason.

That's not true. So I had Brett, and I thought about it long. and hard and I realized that I can't tell any of the reasons why Brett's on the naughty list. Through the stories we tell, I'm not going to share many of our text. I've never been naughty. Text exchanges. But I can tell you one thing that's happened recently with the Griffin family that I can blame on Brett. What is it? I have known the Griffin family for a long time. So we had a party at Brett's house, not long ago. It was bourbon tasting. Two weeks ago. Can I tell this to it? I don't know what I did.

It wasn't you. Oh. So Brett's nephew is at this party. Oh. This is your fault. This is not my fault. So I'm going to blame this on Brett and put Brett on the naughty list because he, I've known Troy, his nephew for a long time. Said, don't treat Dave's kid?

No, it's Brett's nephew, Troy. And we drank a lot of bourbon and then a lot of vodka and a lot of vodka and a lot of. Fireball. So he ran out of bourbon and vodka and fireball. Oh, no. So then what we decided to do was, Troy had never been to Saeed's. Oh, God. Oh, no.

So we go to Saeed's. What did you're saying? Brett did not partake in the Saeed's trip. There was a couple of us, my wife included, my brother, Brett's nephew, his girlfriend. Their girlfriend are married? I don't even know. Oh, don't they get married. for those that don't know ice cream sites is an ice cream stand it's an ice cream stand

as karaoke as a gigantic tree in the parking lot so it's a karaoke bar you'd be careful there and troy proceeded to go to the front every time he didn't like what somebody was or how somebody was singing and take the microphone from them and just start singing and i was entertained by this the first 12 times he did it and then the next thing i know we're in the middle of a bar fight at Saeed's. And I think the person I hit the hardest was probably Troy. So my naughty list story is to Brad for introducing me to his nephew that proceeded to get me into a bar fight at Saeed's a couple weeks ago, which I have not been in a good bar fight in

probably 15 years. That was your first bar fight at Saeed's? Yeah, and Saeed's really. Tyler's like, oh, I'm all about it. Well, I've been in a couple there, one or two. I'm just surprised it's been taking this long for you. What song did he take the mic from McRen? All of, no, Mike Reynolds wasn't there.

I wish he was. He might have been there, actually. There was a lot of people there. But my God, I knew, my brother said to me, John's like, Troy's going to get us into a fight tonight. And he just, I mean, he was having fun. I told you that before you left my house. He was having a blast, but then eventually, like, we found some people that were not having

quite as much fun. So his girlfriend, Gracie can actually sing. Like, she's a really good singer, and she likes to sing country. And so she gets, you know, you know how sad. It's just self-automated. You go in and you sign up. Like, you don't have to go to. a DJ and they sign you up.

You go to this computer, so she signs up, she's a sweet little girl, she gets up there, she starts singing, and he comes up and takes the mic from her, and she's like, Troy, what are you doing? He says, I'm saving you, you suck. Oh, wow. And my nephew can't sing. That's crazy. I never knew that's how the karaoke system worked there in Saeed.

This question from Jason has so many avenues to take out. That's the only automated karaoke bar I've ever been in. Wow, that's crazy. So, it's Aides. I appreciate it. The bouncer at this time, so now there's like 10 people that want to kill Troy. So I grabbed Troy.

Eleven counting you. Throw him through a bathroom door. The indoor one or the outdoor one? The indoor one. Oh, that door's already broke. You didn't say you started the fight with Troy. I ended the fight with Troy. And the bouncer is trying to pull me off of Troy.

I'm like, get off of me. We're together, believe it or not. I'm going to kill him, but we are together. And then we proceeded to drive him home. Megan, no? Megan was there. She went into Beck. She was not impressed.

No, Troy was in the backseat on the radio. The funny part of the story is, so John, Freddie's brother, sees this whole thing break out. So John knows that they're going to get tossed. So he goes outside and nobody else comes outside in his party. But guess who's outside? All the guys, they just got in a fight with. So John's like, I guess I should go back inside. It was an inventful night.

But yeah, so Brett's on the naughty list because his nephew tried to get me killed. Sorry about that. So about Columbia. It's a hell of a country. Yeah. It's time for a special edition of Reaction Theater. We have compiled the best songs that we've been sent in all season long. We recorded this at the end of the last episode in November, but we're debuting it now.

So enjoy. Oh, T.J.'s cool. And Freddy kisses. Hamlin's ass. Every chance again. So, Brett, you're a . I forgot about that one. That's a good one.

That would be a re-tone. Oh, that was a good one. awesome. That had to be Jeb, I assume. Yep. Jab's going to dominate this list, I feel like. Jab is really good. Nobody's listening, but I don't care. I'm on an episode of Doevon Perclare. Well, T.J., he's going to block

and Freddy's going to suck Danny Hamlin off and Brett. He's always mad, but who cares? He's just a baseball dad. We can't keep donkey in line. Carl Stillner is on his mind. Casey's doing well Cause her husband's in love with Christopher Bell Well, you guys suck And so does this show

Soon I'm gonna listen to the Diljury down low I can't believe Jason picked the greatest hits Where the guy says at the end we suck It progresses throughout the season It got better That's pretty good too That was a good song, yeah I mean, people are talented

I mean, I couldn't do that They got more free time than me too Oh Freddy's unlucky man Bubba hits the wall Every chance he can Last week it cost a hundred grand Couldn't afford to pay the gas can Man

Looks like we should run good And Bella barely outrun John Wood And Michael's mad Because we run bad And it's one more week to kiss Denny's ass Oh Freddy's unlucky man Trevor Lawrence remake, ladies and gentlemen.

I'm still kissing Danny's ass. Probably will be for another year at least. He's all over the track, and he can't drive in his way off the pace. My great-grandma could outrun him, and she's 90-000-8. Car-high, car-high, he'll be there.

But he drives it in deep because he don't fucking care. Carity where? Oh, Jeb. We can confirm that's not Jeb Burton, by the way. Yes. Do people think that? Some idiot thought it on Twitter. We had busted curbs.

We had red flags. Speedy drive bags and briscoe was black flagged. We got pissed off drivers. Hard hits into the tires. A lost safety driver and even a fire. And the owners talk about their wrecked cars. Um, um, um, um, um, what the f*** NASCAR. I usually love NASCAR.

This was not my favorite race. Having to turn the channel to watch the end made me want to punch them in the face. they've gone too far Leave the road course For indie cars Um um um Um what the f*** nass car

That's what I sound like when I get drunk And sing karaoke Which has happened often It does All right thank you Toby Keith for that one Yeah thanks Toby Oh Casey's beautiful She glows

like a field of wheat in summer Casey's beautiful but she never ever picks her shit up I'd marry her today

if she just put her away she's got Cheetos on the floor 2004 Kate, not even here to defend yourself. That's pretty good. That was awesome. T.J. looked at the D.A. T.J. looked at the D.A. T.J. looked at the D.A.

If your car is too slow, don't know where else to go. You just call the spotter for BK. And he will look at the D. T-A-T-A-T-J looked at the D-A-T-A That's our friend Peyton I think is Peyton, I think. Hopefully they're doing well. I will look at the data.

He will. I guarantee it. Well, with Quinn Hough and Cody Ware being so legendary the past two weeks, I ain't really got to write about, so I thought I'd write y'all motherfuck as a theme song. Car high, car low, car in the wall. Car running slow Red T.J. Freddie, you're here.

Bumper Clay. I've never heard that one before. What does Jeb do for work? Do we know anything about Jeb? He has a band, Jeb. I never heard that one. Maybe it was an episode I wasn't here. Jeb in the Steel Young bands.

Jeb and the Steel Young Band. Where do they play? Is that on Twitter? Yes, that's his name. Also has a website. I've clicked up before. I have to go check them out. We'll want to save by Bushers.

What a thing. to watch, but Brisco forgot that he had breaks, now the pasta's getting high. Well, Brisco burnt the pasta facing him for a spin. Texas. Yeah.

Well, I guess, oh, Chase, Brisco won't be working at the olive garden. Shout out Johnny Cash, thank you. Appreciate you. Burned the pasta. And Briscoe burnt the pasta. bicycle

Grandma could beat him in her wheelchair I could drive a truck loaded down with hog nuts and I beat that mother fair and square You Cody Ware

Jeb Jeb was not a Cody Ware fan The acoustics are so drastic Is what makes his song His song's the best Jeff, do you do weddings? He does really good, man They call him fast

But that's a lie He runs in last Because he can't drive He couldn't even pass that mother Friken Derrick Co His cars held together with duct tape and home Poor Anthony Alfredo Should we tell the story?

Which one? Since he got fired? I don't know the story Anthony Alfredo's crew chief. No, it wasn't his crew chief. It was his team crew chief. Yeah. They were, what the hell did he?

So Drew Blickensdurfer was listening to our podcast. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. And he played that song to Alfredo's crew chief. Ceph, Seth Barber, who I used to work with me and Seth. I think it was funny. Seth did not think it was funny. But, yeah, Seth did not think it was as funny. But I've worked with both of them guys, so they were kind of calling me.

That's got to be the highlight of this guy's career now. I mean, he knows that the crew chief heard a song. Yeah. But he didn't like it. Oh, yeah, 100%. But he didn't like your song, by the way. I'm sure they've all heard it.

I'm sure they have. And they ran low on duct tape. Yeah. They play through the speakers of the shop. They do now, probably. With the holiday season right around the corner, a special Christmas carol out goes out to one, Kevin Harvick.

We wish you a merry-off season. We wish you a merry-off season. We wish you a merry off season And a happy Christmas Sincerely all us Chase Elliott fans Had to get a Christmas Carol in there Jason played that because he's a Chase Elliott fan I just like Christmas Carol

Let's be honest Don't tell Jason The car slaps a wall And it's sitting up high They say go low But when Half goes high And on impact

He says, oh, But it ain't my fault It's just my equipment The boy can't drive a damn car I could outrun him In a U-Haul When Half sucks

People call me a d'b What about this guy's writing this song? What does just make them? I don't know I had no idea Brett could write lyrics like that and send him to Jib. Exposed his secret. Yeah.

Somebody once told me that Jason's going to go work on the Dale Jr. download. Because Dillner's looking kind of dumb with a finger and a thumb pointing at a map of a lost track. Well, the pods start coming and they don't stop coming, spot it to the roof and hit the ground running. Didn't make sense just to work for one Jason's brain was smart but his head was dumb So much to do, so much to see So what's wrong with DBC You'll never know if you go

Woo, you'll always be a donkey Woo! Hey now, Jason Drink a white claw shultz Hey now Jason got a message for you Get out of Dillers ass Only DBC Breaks the most Oh.

That was the original, right? That's the one that started them all. Yeah. The OG. How about Jason of all people? Hope Peyton and her dad are doing good. Should have been patient. Should have just held his life.

Elliot's out of the car and he's starting to wine. Because he can't win without NASCAR. Who? Get going to have. I want you learn to drive like Oh, back someday. God damn head off. Can't believe Jason played that.

I know. Yeah, that was a difficult part. That's the best way to get canceled around here, hating old Chase Elliott. Yep. All right, last one. To be too. Best on the standing, the best in the booths,

stumbered the Monday that tell you the truth. Giving the Finians and breaking the rules. Good call to the hollor to bring it to you. Casey, you pretty, Freddie, you fat. DJ, you suck. Breaking so bad. Jason is facing got to play in this racing If someone don't crash and he's gonna go mad

Looking for Freddy he's killing the bottle Casey is making messers like a taut The tweet something stupid then don't even bother Brett's gonna block you like Tj is his spot I see them online though FF in the chat Tell Rick where to stay off the track All of the podcasts are living in fear This isn't the download

It's still bumper clear It's not hard to imagine why that's Don't get it twisted baby This isn't the download, nah This is door bumper Clear, clear, clear That's pretty good I never heard that one.

You never heard. So I guess you don't listen because it's our intro so for the last month. No wonder you've been yawning the whole time over there. What an idiot. Oh my gosh. There's my what an idiot right now. I don't know how you got fired from your last job, but I'll tell you how you're going to get fired from this one.

Matter of time. Have we given him a job yet, Jason? Has he responded to Mike. Mike has talked with Tyler, our rapper. So conversations are ongoing. Good. And if he needs representation, let me know. If he represents anything,

with the Dell Jr. Download, we're all going to punch you in the face. Yeah. Because that's not fair. Well, Mike's not hired him for our show. I can tell you that. I promise you. Yeah, okay, you're probably right.

So thank you, everyone, for sending your songs in all year. We hope to have a lot more come next year. Hard to top, but you guys can do it. Offerpad, question of the week. What is the Christmas celebration like at your home? Tyler, what do you think? For me, I'm not.

home for Christmas we're traveling this year going to Bloomington see Alexis family my girlfriend they all live in Bloomington Illinois we're out here also all all all all year long and she doesn't get to see her family but three or four times throughout the year so it's a real important to get back go there for a couple days see her family my son get to see see everyone on her side of the family they eat it up and then from there you know it's just traveling Christmas so we go from Tennessee to see my, my mom, my dad, and then back home. And then... So is Santa Claus putting together toys Christmas Eve in Illinois, or if Santa Claus already got the toys and he put them together on half of you?

The toys are hidden throughout the house right now. Okay. Dude, at that age, you know, he is it too. Ain't nothing. Yeah, but it's the assembly that sucks, because you can't get a two-year-old something that doesn't require a lot of assembly. I don't know. I think it's worse at about four or five when they can... Yeah, but it still sucks. So you don't have the Amazon guy deliver the presents to your kid in the driveway while he's

outside playing? No, no, basically. Brett? Freaking Boat. The Amazon guy walks up and he hands Boadie the box. And Boady opens the box and it's this freaking dartboard Christmas present. I'm like, oh, man. Both can't open all the boxes from Amazon yet.

Brett, what is Christmas look like? Oh, man, it's changed. You know, obviously COVID has screwed it up some. My mom, she stays in Pagel and she always was coming to my house. It's been the full two, three days. But my brother comes up, my sister lives with me. It's a lot of fun. Eggnog is a thing.

We love eggnog. Spike eggnog. I'm not drinking eggnog. Spiked eggnog. There's only two things you got to bring when you come to my house, Freddy. You know what they are? I mean, I know what they are, but I don't know. It's a handle of Tito's and Fireball.

It's all you got to bring when you come to my house. Everybody's like, what do I bring? I'm like, Tito's a Fireball. So we had this party at Brett's the other day. So he sends a text out to me, Doug, and Troy, his nephew, somebody get Fireball. Well, I knew that I was not getting fireball Because if my wife saw me care

He said a bucket of fireball, by the way, not like a little bottle or anything Oh, yeah So I'm like, I'm not doing that Because Megan will kill me Well, the other two people in the group did Troy, Troy got a candy cane full of fireball Did you know? They make those?

And I think Doug got a bucket And Brett's wife, Claudia, is like What the, who brought this? What the hell is this for? I thought we were having a bourbon tasting And my brother, to his credit, was like, it was me. Because he knows he's got to be the fall guy for everything that goes wrong.

He's like, yeah, it was me. Sorry about that. You know, I just thought it'd be cool. Troy, like, I forget what the hell. Troy's like, Brett told me to bring it. I'm like, Troy, that's not what you say. Damn, he threw me right under the bus. I mean, right under the bus.

Christmas at my house looks a lot different because last year, we all, I got COVID. So my whole family was there. So now they're not coming back, I guess. Freddie had COVID didn't know it yet. Yeah. Had 13 people in the house. Yeah, you tried to feed everybody, too. I did.

I fed everybody the whole time. And nobody else got it. Nobody got it. And nobody was vaccinated, obviously. They weren't out yet. So they decided this year they're not coming. So it's just going to be me, Megan, and John. And then Megan's parents will come over on Christmas Day.

But I think Christmas Eve we might venture over to the Griswolds. My house is fun. TJ. My mom's coming down. So that'll be. That's awesome. That'd be good. Other than that, it's pretty quiet.

I mean, no real. We're not traveling. anything so be around might go to columbia or something um check it out here it's a nice place it's beautiful this time of here the streets amazing but no it's it's it's it's i think it's going to quiet down i don't think there's any testing or anything for the next what till early january now yeah yeah nothing better than traveling for christmas until you have kids once you have kids and multiple kids makes it even harder like you literally are like i'm not going anywhere y'all come to me yeah it's just it's a lot you're you're going to find out i mean bo's obviously

He's getting older. Bo knows. Bo knows. Bo nose. Yeah. Once you, you need a whole U-Haul to deliver Santa at some point. You need to get him, like, do you remember that black and white picture of Bo Jackson

where he's holding the baseball bat? Yeah. You need to take, get one of him, like it says Bo knows on it. Yeah. For his better. Put Bo's head. All right. We are getting way off topic.

Casey, where are you going? You on to Florida? Staying home. I'm. Dice and factory. Turchson Caicos and where are you going? I am going to Florida and then early Christmas. morning back here to celebrate Christmas with Chad's family. So we split it up.

Clean up the shit on the airplane, please. I'll send you a picture. Hey, what's up, DBC fans? If you haven't heard about Anchor, it's the easiest way to make a podcast. Let us explain. Well, first of all, Freddie, the best part is it's free. There's nothing better than using a free awesome service. To make the process simple and easy, there's creation tools that allow you to record and edit your podcast right from your phone or computer. Anchor helps people find your show by distributing the podcast for you so it can be heard on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and many more platforms. Also, you can make money from your podcast with no minimum listenership. I like money. It's everything you need to make a podcast in one place.

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Yeah, my first one. Driving down, Friday. He's waving at Bob. Yeah. I see Bob from sprinting up Pitt Road. I'm like, he just ran up pit road to get me coming in. So, I mean, I better wave at him, you know?

This was after I spun the first time. Like, the third time when the test was over, and I saw him come running, like, I can't wave it this time. Like, the whole garage wants to kill me. No. They're been fun. We're all waving to you after that. It's so funny because having been in the garage in those scenarios, you never know what drivers see it, don't see it because you guys are like stone face, eyes glued forward. You don't have any.

So the fact that you wave is, that's pretty heavy. He's had helmet off and everything. Well, you know, the car was, I spun it out. I completely locked it down. this time, not the time before when I hit the barriers. So I locked it down, blew all four tires out. So he had to go out there, recover it. By the way, he has single-handedly changed the game on how they fixed these.

Because when someone would spend out and get a flat, it was like, oh, man, the car's sitting there, what do we do? It took us like 15 minutes to get him off the track the first time. Second time, man, I think they had a pickup truck parked behind his garage saw where the jack and tires already in it. They put all the guys in the back and run them out there. So it took like five, seven minutes. cut it, wait.

Well, half the time was just figuring out which car spun out. Every time after the first time, they knew, okay, it's the eight again. Just go to his garage stall, grab his guys. Jason's going to kill me, but Jimmy Johnson running the full indie car schedule. What do you think about it? I think it's awesome. You know, I definitely, that's definitely, you know, it's definitely someone I guess, you know, personally. They mean to, like, just call him up and ask him about that, you know, what that experience has been like.

Well, you know, what drew you to do in the full-time schedule. Me personally, I really enjoy NASCAR, but when I was a kid growing up, I never really looked outside of racing. You know, I looked at NASCAR as my ceiling. I never thought that, you know, maybe it could go run an open wheel or indie cars or sports cars or, you know, do some of these other things. And the more and more time I spend racing, the more that we have more road courses, you know, the more I kind of fool myself and maybe thinking I'd be okay jumping in other cars and going out and experiencing it. So I think it's really cool. I think it opens up the doors for, we race plenty of times throughout the year on the cup side. But you never know what the, you know, you never know when it's all going to come to an end.

You never know when you're going to start looking in other directions. So I think it's really cool. And I'm happy for him. Do you think this was part of his plan? Like go get acclimated with the road courses. And then if I like it, I'll jump in. Because we know Jimmy Johnson can go out there and run ovals. Like I'm not, there's not a doubt in my mind that he can go out and win a race on an oval if he's in a good car.

right you agree with that i mean the the things you learn i mean the way you have to race the stock card an oval um and any car are a lot different but you know from the races i watched on the ovals there are some things that crossover you know that aggression like being able to understand the air um you know i don't i don't know how it'll go for him right but i'm i'm really hopeful that he will have success because that you know for for guys like me and others that that just love racing everything. If he can have success in it, you know, that might lead to me having a chance

to go hop in a Indy car and, you know, me personally, I'd rather go run a road course than an Oval, the N.500 is something. Like, that would be amazing. But, you know, seeing our guys go out and do good and other things is always really good for us because, you know, I love NASCAR. That's what my dream was, my goal was.

But that doesn't mean I don't want to go run other cars. I'm a competitive guy. A lot of us are. Well, I mean, watching him race, T.J., Like, I've always said, man, he wouldn't do IndyCar because it was something that he just wanted to do. Now to go see him run full time, I'm like, ooh, at his age, he must like it. He ain't scared. Like, you can't say he left NASCAR and hung up his helmet because he didn't want to, you know, endanger himself because holy dangerous.

You know, for sure. And something I want to ask you about was obviously, sorry, Jason, we're going to go for another three hours. You know, my first, the first time I ever saw you race was a Dirtley model, the 11 car. wherever, I don't know, multiple places. Is that something you would like to get back into? Dirt Late Model racing right now is unbelievable. I mean, they've got a million dollar race coming up. I know.

The payouts are ridiculous. They got a million dollar to win race at Eldora, I believe it is, right? It's insane. I mean, I think it's during the week. I mean, let's go blow the dust off something and get your ass back out there. I mean, is that something you want to do? I do, but I've tried to be pretty realistic about it. Like, I've realized coming over here and not a time and effort it takes to be

successful running in NASCAR that you're just talking about how steep the competition is how how tight the field is I can't just go hop in a car and knock all the rust off at Aldora and expect to run good I can't I tried that at the chili bowl twice and it went okay but I didn't do anything great so if I'm going to take the time to go back and do something there needs to be a plan like I need to figure out what it's going to look like and for me you know dirt racing is probably a harder transition I could be completely wrong but I think it'd be harder to hop back in into the dirt late model racing that maybe go around midgets or sprint cars or even look at, you know, some asphalt stuff on the sports car side, whatever, you know. So I don't know, I guess I'm

kind of caught up in the asphalt side of the racing more so right now, but I mean, I grew up dirt racing for the first, I don't know, 15 years of my life, you know, so I did a lot of it. I still love it. I want to go back and do it, but I feel like the asphalt opportunities will probably fade away faster than going back and running dirt years down the road. Speaking of Chili Bowl, how do you feel about these kids being able to sign up and go run? I mean, we got the Bouchel kid, the Cruz kid, two highly talented kids. Like, how do you feel about that? I'm not having to be 16.

Oh, that's finally changed. Yeah, they approved it. Well, you have to go through approval process. They have a submitted application. Their applications were approved. I mean, how do you feel about that? Man, um, are we ended up can of worms? No, no, not at all.

I mean, this is something that throughout most of my career that I had to fight so hard. I mean, it pretty much dictated where I lived, what I raced, where I raced. One of the most frustrating things in the world when I was running late models is that, you know, the rule at Eldora was 16 years old and Tony wasn't going to budge. I mean, I wasn't winning races in a late model, but I wasn't terrible, and I wanted to race at Aldora so bad, but he wouldn't budge on that. And, you know, there was opportunities to go USAC racing and midgets when I was young, sprint cars, but I mean, I was just flat out too young. I could be competitive, but the rule is the rule, right? And there was some ways and in some avenues of racing that there was some adjustments made. But I think, you know, guys like the drivers you just mentioned have shown more than,

showing their talent and their ability more than enough to get some flexibility there. A hundred percent. Like a guy like Tim's and Cruz and Gavin, like they're well more, they're way more qualified than some of the 40-year-olds. I mean, the Chili Bowles up to 300. 60 something entries probably now. I mean, there's guys out there that are 50 that don't belong on the racetrack. Look at these kids of Millbridge, man.

They get around there. No, exactly. For sure. If they can get around Milbridge, they can get around the Chili Boy. I just hope that the kids that are racing, which I don't know, they're there listening, their parents listening, like, be smart about it because they've opened the door up now for you. Be respectful.

But, yeah, don't go out there and give them a reason. Ah, not opposite. Go out and wreck a bunch of people. They can't hit you. They can't hit you. Good. Tawn them. On that, Tulip.

Bowl note we need to close the show because I still have Christmas shopping to do but Freddie I would like everyone please say a prayer for Freddie as he attempts to try chili bowl out again coming you want to go let's go chili bowl well I couldn't because of the test and then then they said all Austin's doing the test and then I just found out that we're both going to the test so I went from being like I'm not going to the chili bowl the test is over on Wednesday I know I know I'm going Thursday Thursday to Saturday or Thursday that's plenty of time let me clear it with my When is it? Tell Alexa to come.

She didn't hang out with Megan. When is it? January? January, January 11th, 12th, when we're day home. It's like 9th to the 15th or something. It's been two. You're not going to the test? He goes Thursday.

Bubba's not clear yet. I might go, but I'm not going to the chili bowl to Thursday. You're going to the test? Okay. Watch out everybody. I'm only driving one of the days. I'm going to note that to, I'm going to put that in my 2311 group text right now. Reddick's coming.

the Daytona, we might want to skip. All right. Well, before we close out this show, thank you all so much for listening. Hope you all have a happy holidays. Tyler, thanks for sure for coming all, man. Two-time Exfinity Series champion. Close to that first cup win.

So many times. We know it's coming. I think Tyler Redick's one of the biggest talents in this sport. And I'm not saying that because you're sitting here. I truly believe your big wins are coming. But honestly, all you listeners out there, love you guys, into the year's show. Thanks to Jason for putting this all. Merry Christmas to you and your family.

Stay safe. And I hope Santa Claus brings you everything you want because he damn sure didn't. I got a thing of lipstick right here. Santa brought us Fireball. He brought you Fireball. Yeah. Yeah, everybody appreciate it. Dillner hung out in here because they want any feels to look for stuff in.

And, you know, thanks for Tyler for coming on. And, you're putting up with us and keeping it directed for some of the time. 100%. You know, we talk about it all the time, obviously, and just thanks to all you people that listen. Again, Snowball Derby, Turkey Derby. I had dozens of people come up and thank us for doing it, and we're not the ones to thank.

The other ones are thanks for letting us do this, because if you guys didn't listen, I'd pretty sure that they'd tell us to not come back in here anymore. So thanks to them, Casey, you're the best. Jason, you're still the MVP of this whole deal. Offer Pad, love you guys. Offer Pad. But, yeah, we'll be looking for.

Tyler gave us two hours of his time. Yeah, yeah. Right here at Christmas. Hey, I mean, I might as well, you know, top it off with thinking Derek Neeland as always for daddy. Daddy. Daddy. Got it. Man. So, okay.

I got to thank him for putting up with my dumb ass for one. Two, my buddy, Ernie Morrison, he listens to you guys all the time. Also. T.J's actually the one time T.J. joined me on iRacing. And we ran pretty good. And Ernie took you out. Yeah. Oh, yeah.

Sorry, Ernie. But it was so fun. funny we were well you were a spotting for brad but i just about crashed off turn for right before i crashed in one and two he's like all right let's take it easy let's not crash this thing and i come over the radio and it's for going to be forever ingrained in my head it's like don't you worry i'm not going to crash this thing i promise oh you did one of them and i'm like i'm going to drive into turn one and two like it 60% now i drove into one and two it's like i'm good i pick up the gas and the next thing you know i'm faced backwards i've hit chase elliott all of dawsonville georgia wants to kill me

me. That car was hurt pretty good. I thought I crashed Ty Dylan. I mean it was... Which car got destroyed? Was it Ty? Uh, no, I think it would... Well, what I'm got? The nine, like, looked kind of tore up. Mine wasn't too bad.

Actually, where I got us was on sensors. We ripped some sensors off lines, but I'm not cheap. They're very cheap. Sorry, Richard. A lot more expensive than that sand. Can I have to cut back on some of the Christmas special line. Sorry, boss. I appreciate it. Man, as soon as I text you, you were all in, so I appreciate you here. Tell Lex, we said

Thanks for good. Yeah, yeah. You're welcome anytime. Thank you. 100%. Merry Christmas. Merry Christmas, everybody. Pala.

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