Door Bumper Clear - 239 – L.A. Clash: Uncharted Territory

Episode Date: February 8, 2022

On the Season 7 premiere of Door Bumper Clear, T.J. Majors, Brett Griffin, and Freddie Kraft are fresh out of Los Angeles after NASCAR went stadium racing with the Clash at the L.A. Coliseum. Along with co-host Casey Boat and producer Jason Schultz, the gang reacts to one of the boldest and most innovative event concepts that NASCAR has ever tried. They share what it was like at the stadium, the event’s atmosphere and why it made Brett compare it to a sold-out Talladega back in the day.In Spot On, Spot Off, the crew begins by addressing Kurt Busch missing the main event. Hear what Freddie had to say about the contact that involved his driver Bubba Wallace, who is also Busch’s new teammate, and what the mentality in the last chance qualifying race was like.Brad Keselowski’s debut race with the team he now co-owns didn’t go very well. His spotter T.J. fills us in on their weekend. Hear how Keselowski is approaching this new opportunity and the organization’s reaction to missing the main event.The long-anticipated debut of the Next Gen car in a race took place on Sunday. The guys share their overall impressions to the style of racing, durability of the cars to withstand fender banging, and mechanical issues teams faced.Contact between Kyle Larson and Justin Haley ended Haley’s promising performance. His spotter, Brett, fills us in on what exactly happened. Hear what choice words he uses to describe the move that Larson made.Joey Logano won the race after facing pressure from Kyle Busch in the closing laps. Find out who was disappointed that Busch didn’t attempt to knock the No. 22 car out of the way for the win.Will there now be a more forceful push for additional short track races? What’s the future of this stadium racing model? Could it work as a point paying event? The crew analyzes the decisions the sport must address moving forward.Heading to Daytona International Speedway for the Daytona 500 on Feb. 20, learn why a parts shortage is concerning all race teams. The guys discuss whether it will impact the aggressiveness in the season opening race and what it means for heading out west afterwards.Later in the show, Reaction Theatre returns, find out which spotter is having a fondue party for the Super Bowl, who wins the first What an Idiot awards of the season, and a new twist on DBC Picks in 2022.Thank you to our presenting sponsor Offerpad and partner RacingUSA.com for making this show possible Want more DBC? Check out and subscribe to the new DBC YouTube channel! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Door. Hello. Hello. Here we go. Brett Griffin, Spotter for Colleg Racing in 2022. What's up, Freddie Crafts, Spotter for Bubba Wallace. Hey, everybody. I'm T.J. Majors.

Spotter the Six Cup car. A wise man once told me you can't be hung over and drunk at the same time. I think that was me. Yeah, I'm sure somebody smarter than you told you. Yeah, he said, wise man. So let's just get the party. back started again, I guess. TJ and Freddie, you went a whole week without getting

called to the NASCAR hauler because of this podcast. You cut this out. You make it sound like just me and TJ got called to the hauler. Calling from the guy that if I start talking, kick me, the guy that never shut up. My, uh, what an idiot is going to be my convenience driver. Dale Jr.?

Yeah, he's an idiot this week. T.J has officially grown a set of balls and called out Dale Jr. on the door bumper clear podcast. This is an epic moment, Freddy. I'm proud of them, finally. Nobody's listening, but I don't care. I'm on an episode of Door Bumper Clear. Hey, everybody.

I'm T.J. Major. Spotter to the Sixth Cup car, the one truck this year, and 68 Xfinity car, full-time Xfinity. So, and welcome to the Bojangles studio back in action. Out of bell, fresh out of jail, California dreaming. Soon as I'll step on the stage, I hear the Hootie screaming, screaming for money and alcohol. and life for the west side.

Brett Griffin, fresh out of L.A. Coliseum, I'm feeling the West Coast vibes. Got to give a shout out to our presenting sponsor, OfferPad. They're back this year. Show them love and our buddies at Racing USA. Freddie, what's up? Do you survive? Yeah, who you spot for this year?

I mean, do you want to mention that? Oh, I'm spot for Colleg Racing. Justin Haley in the Cup series and Daniel Hemrick, the champ in the Exfinity Series. What truck are you doing? A truck. What's up, for? Ready Crafts, potter for Bubba Wallace, Landon Castle in the Xfinity series,

and Derek Krause in the Truck Series. I, too. Back for more. Back for more for Kraus. Yeah, he's going to... Kraus' whole season looks like yesterday's Concees did. I'm kind of surprised he asked you to come back. He doesn't have a choice.

Surprised he asked him to come back. But, yeah, that was a hell of a show yesterday. Casey, what's going on? Hello, everyone. Casey Boat here, marketing professional in NASCAR. still have a job, thankfully. And we can't forget our amazing producer. Hey, Jason Schultz here,

director of content, Jurydimo Media. Is that a new title? No, that's self-proclaimed. I'm just going to keep saying it until it comes true. That's hilarious. Get your own business cards and maybe you get a raise. Why, director?

Just go up to VP at this point. I'm just the content guy. I did that once, too, at a company called Spot On. I just invented a title from my story. A VP of Entertainment. Next week, I'm going to have my own self-proclaimed title as well. Just make sure you send HR the email notifying them so you get the raise to the director level. Does that mean you're coming two weeks in a row?

Well, next week, I don't have a show. But the week after, I'm going to be marketing professional and VP of babysitting for DORBAB reclaim. That's a full-time job. Yep. Tell me about it. Anyways, back from California, probably on maybe two hours of sleep. I'm assuming the official start of the season unofficially. The official, unofficial start of the season.

I mean, I don't know what to call the class these days. Here we go. I bet it all winter to get ready for this show and that's what you come up with. Gosh, what a fing start of this show. No, the inaugural Bushlight Clash at the Coliseum, I'm going to ask you guys to give this a rating. A through F, off track, meaning T.J. I know what you'll give you're on track.

My personal race was an app. TJ, what did you think of the experience overall? I mean, I thought the experience overall was good. I thought the vibe around the track was good. I thought I was optimistic going in. I thought it would actually be a pretty good race, and I think it was actually a pretty good race. I don't.

I mean, I'm. It's a home run. I mean, I thought it was home run. With as many plus signs next to as you can fit, because the atmosphere alone, I didn't care. Are you sick? No, I'm just like... You never rate that high, I don't think.

Yeah, I know. And I was pessimistic about it going in. Like, I just, you know, I could not, I could not picture it going as well as it did. I knew the venue was going to be amazing. I knew the area, all the marketing, you know, it was a marketing dream from day one. But the product on the racetrack was way better than I expected it to be. And then just like, there's multiple times, me and Brett were sitting next to each other. We just looked at each other like, this is insane.

Like a random pass in a heat race and half the stadium stood up and went nuts. Like you could tell that and I saw a lot of people not believing that, you know, it was actual ticket sales or if the numbers they were thrown out about 70% new NASCAR fans in the crowd. It looked like a crowd of new NASCAR fans like they had never seen a pass before. They had never seen a guy put a bumper to somebody before because anytime it happened, the place went eight and I hope that translated well to the people that were watching on TV. But, I mean, I thought just from atmosphere alone before the race, even started, I'm like, this is a home run no matter what this race looks like.

NASCAR spent a lot of money. I don't know the last time that I've looked down from the spotter stand and been in all of how much money that we as a sport would spend because we typically are in the check cashing business, not the check riding business. But when you go into a venue that is literally a Coliseum and is not even remotely a racetrack and turn it into one, that's holy cow. Like that's hard to do just from the permits alone. Like you're in a very tight, tough political market to be able to do that.

To be able to create that much sound and all the things that we bring to the table, like I can't imagine what the permits cost, right? Build a racetrack, get Ice Cube, get Pitbull, get all the celebrities that were there. I saw Ashton Couture was there. Like, man, it's just freaking awesome. It was 100% a 10 out of 10. We finally figured out how to make the heat race is excited. because we went through a year of that in Xfinity series where that didn't work at all.

It was epic fail. And this was an A-plus this past weekend, how we did the four. How we did qualifying to set the heats. The length of the heats, I thought was perfect. There were people b***ed before we even started a race car up in L.A. That they were too long. Look, listen, they were awesome. If you weren't entertained in heat four, then you simply need to go watch curling or something on TV.

Hey, curl is good, man. Because it was epic. But Casey, to your question, A-plus, plus. plus plus killer. I think this might be the first time you've complimented NASCAR. Let me ask you guys, and this is for you and Jason if he wants to chime in too. Like, we were getting texts from people that were watching on TV that they felt, and I know why it was.

We can talk about it here in a minute. But, you know, what was the broadcast like for you? Could you feel the excitement of, like we were, the crowd was hyped the whole time, concerts, while the race was going on. I don't know if you could feel that on TV. But, I mean, we had got some texts about some people that kind of said that wasn't coming across the same? I think they did a great job for what was given to them.

This is not a normal speedway. Victory Lane was non-existent. Like driver interstage was up in the grandstands. And I think that is like knowing what it takes on the back end. It is very hard to have things portrayed as it was, like as they normally would be at a track where everything's back to back to back. I think that's hard. So it was definitely hard to feel the excitement

and to see everything that's going on. But I think they did a great job for what was given to them. Jason, what do you think? They could probably have captured the atmosphere better because it's like you knew it was there but you don't really get to see it much or experience it much.

But when they would show crowd shots of like really young people in the crowds, like having fun, I'm like, how that looks like a cool time. Yeah, you bring up a good point. So they interviewed a kid over the PA system, Monica did and she said, are you having a good time? He said, this is

the greatest day of my life. And the kid was about 13 years old, made my heart just totally full. Here's where That was during the race. Are you sure it wasn't the four naked blondes that were sitting behind him? I didn't see them. Oh, they were. I needed my binoculars up, I guess. To your point,

here's where TV had a huge miss. They kept showing the area where Pitbull, Ice Cube, and Driver Intros took place at the top of those columns. that part of the Coliseum, they should have been full of fans. Because you kept showing the most empty part of the whole Coliseum. We sold over 55,000 tickets in a place that holds about 70,000. It normally holds more than that.

But the way they had to configure everything to make sure fans were safe in the lower levels of the stadium. We could have sold about 70,000 tickets. But tell me this, when's the last time we sold 55,000 tickets to a clash? It's been a long damn time. Or the West Coast. I mean, I think, One of the biggest arguments in the industry was the fact that the West Coast typically doesn't have a ton of NASCAR fans.

Yeah, Fontana sold out last time we were there. Phoenix sells out in the fall. I think you look at it in general. The clash isn't really that I have a prestigious race. Here's how I knew we had a lot of new fans. And I told Freddie this. I looked down through the stands and I'm like, nobody's got a headset on. Nobody's got a scanner on. These people are just, they're free ear in it, like meaning they have nothing on.

They're just out here drinking beer, having a good time. Because they probably didn't know they were doing it. Because they didn't know anything about scanning rentals, right? And they probably can't hear anything today. Because it was freaking loud. But like when you just look at that, the whole thing, I'm telling you, it was amazing. But TV, you know, if the place was 80% full, the place where they were showing on TV was 40% full. Like, they just should have reconfigured that.

But that is what it is. It was the atmosphere was as good as any racetrack I've seen since Del Earnhardt Jr. would take the lead at Talladega with a sold-out crowd. If you, if you go ahead and tell me that any class, at Daytona that we've run for the last, God knows how many years was any better than what we saw yesterday. I will call you a liar. I talked about this, Regan Smith,

and the pits before the race was started. The clash finally is at an event. It was an event all in its own now, as opposed to just being a small part of Speed Weeks where we went out there one day and ran 50 laps. Now this was its own event. And I don't want to sound like a crazy, Darth, when I say this. Good luck.

But when you look at the clash, When we run it at Daytona and we run it on the Oval, a handful of guys get a lot of extra experience going into the Daytona 500 and going into the duels. And you're at a disadvantage if you don't get to run any laps with that particular race car leading into the duels and the 500. I don't care how you look at it. Experience is still experience.

Yesterday, even if you did not make the main, you still got to run over 75 laps around this racetrack. So you got to take back. T.J. unfortunately, didn't make the main. mean, but guess what? They're able to evaluate their short track program, evaluate this new car, and learn things from it. Had we been in Daytona, and had he not qualified for the clash, or I not qualified, and I wouldn't qualify with Justin Haley, then we would have been at a

disadvantage. So I take this as a level playing field, and holy hell, I mean, dude, that's a home run. If you didn't like that event, then get the fuck off my Twitter. I'm okay. They're probably blocked already. I'm okay with a clash at Daytona, no matter, because to me, like, whenever, only, if you if there's a way to earn yourself into it like the clash used to be but there's not i know but i'm saying like if it was 15 car all poll winners or stage winners or whatever it was you know to me that that's a benefit of hey you want a stage like whatever they're but you still don't have a last chance qualifier to give a guy or the way to race their way and so you're still the disadvantage on the competition side especially with the new car i'm okay having the clash with all the red guys

i could keep arguing with you and we both be wrong what you guys think they're going to change it's going be whatever anyway. What do you guys think of the format that they had with heat races? I don't know how else they could have done it any better, really. You know, you qualified to earn your spot in heat race, and then you had to race your way in, and you had to be aggressive. Them concedes were atrocious. I mean, honestly, it was kind of embarrassing to be part of it.

But, I mean, it's what it was what you had to do, and I'm sure we'll talk about it. Can't work. Can't work in a points event. You can't work in a full-time regular season event, but it absolutely can work the way they did it. And when I look at, I mean, man, even the All-Star weekend, like, guys who win races deserve to be in. But we got to the point of where we just kept giving everybody more and more and more ways to get an All-Star race. And it was like, oh, we don't have enough cars.

Let's make up a way to get Danica Patrick and. Let's make up a way to get this guy or gal in. Race your way in. Yeah. That was epic. You're in. Top five. You got a top five.

You're in. Yeah. Yeah. We talked about that on the show. Just the requirements for that. just got kind of outrageous really but i don't i don't like sending people home though i don't like i don't like well i'm just saying in general i that's too that's a long way to go to yeah to have uh you know with a new car say you broke a train's actual you know in qualifying just a random

part failure you're you're pretty you're in trouble you know and i don't i don't like sending people home i don't know if maybe you can i don't know i think that's what we're talking like I think, like, Brett brought up a good point that, like, even though you went home, you still ran a ton of lots. A ton of lots. 75 laps of race competition and then probably another 100 of practice. You know, obviously, if you break something, that's kind of out of everybody's control. But it wasn't like you went out there, like ran the 20 lap open and then got turned around

and had to go home. So you got track time. You got ample track time. Because I was thinking about it, like, I was looking at the LCQ. I'm like, well, I guess that makes sense. Like, that gives everybody ample time on the racetrack. Do you think the heat race is? would have been better switching the laps, making the heat race 50 laps.

Because that way you give guys that might not have had a good qualifying draw, because the track got better as someone was going down a little bit as well. You give the guys that might not as good of a qualifying draw time to make it up in the race with a poor draw. I think, I mean, and the last chance qualifying. It definitely would have helped them. And I assume you're saying, like, flip them. You have 50 laps of heat.

That way. So, you know, I think. You have an easier chance to race away. and if you're supposed to be in the race. I think that if, say, like, take Kurt, for example, I think you leave it the same because you run the heat race, you're 25 laps, you've got a shitty draw, whatever. You drive up there.

You might not get to fourth where you needed to get to, but you did drive the fifth, and now you've got 50 laps to, you know, you're starting on the front row of your LCQ or whatever. You know, I think the 75 laps doesn't really matter, as long as it's 75 laps. Looking at the last chance qualifier race, the way that one went, it took forever.

I'm aware. And yeah. Oh, yeah, trust me. I was in yours. Oh, yeah. I almost made it in because all you idiots. But yeah, I don't know. I think 50 lapses.

I didn't see a lot of teams make it in that I thought didn't deserve it. And I didn't really see any teams that didn't deserve it. I mean, look, Ty Dillon definitely took out a few people. He looked like he was driving on the I-10 or the 101 because they drive like complete idiots in California. They drive like they have spotters. And they're all T. I'm blocking like when he was a Legano.

But I don't honestly like, Keselowski wasn't fast enough to make it yesterday. Yeah, I'm not saying off of us. And a shout out to what I'm about to say. Rick Ware racing, they showed up. I don't know what Cody wears, but whatever he was wearing this weekend, it was working. Ryan Priest made the freaking race.

And Ryan Priest was faster than Keselowski pretty much all weekend. So, like, I can't look back at this and go, well, if we'd have done this heat race this way or this guy was more deserving. I mean, other than Alex Bowman, and boy, he was in a pissing match. Like, I don't see a lot of guys that I saw didn't deserve to make it. I mean, Freddie at one point was at the front of his heat, didn't have a lot of speed, fell back, ended up being the first guy not in, which came a good start for the last chance qualifier,

which that ended up being a crazy powwow too. But, like, I mean, I don't know how you change this format to make any better. I love it. I'm just saying the only reason I say is because he gives the true guys with speed, no matter who it was. But I think they all got in. Yeah, but they, but like in my, like, I don't think Kurt should have been, I mean, to me, he should have been in through the heat race. You know, it should have been long enough for him to come from the back of that. Yeah, but he wasn't good enough in the years.

He wasn't good enough. I mean, he might have gone through there. He was, he was a straightaway behind fourth. But a 50 lap last chance qua for race when really they just beat each other. I mean, that doesn't need to be 50 laps in my opinion. I mean, it was ridiculous. I think, I would be fine with it either way if they flipped it and the heats were 50 and the last chance was 25. You need that 70, you need one of them to be long enough.

The race that's going to have more. more carnage, it probably needs to be the short run. Now you're talking about a 200-lap heat race event. Dude, I'd have ran 300 laps in the main event. I was enjoying it. 200-lap heat race event, but, I mean, you've already complaining of people complaining as, oh, heat races are too long. I mean, look, we said, I didn't argue this all day, but it ain't going to matter.

They're going to do what they want to do. It was a home run. Yep. So, on that note, I know they haven't announced where the clash is. Have you heard rumors of where the 2023 clash will be? I think we found out yesterday probably. You've obviously heard something. What did you hear, Casey, since you're asking us.

means you've heard something. I've heard nothing. You guys are on the ground. We talked to me and Brett talked about it all weekend and I you know it'd be interesting to see when we go back if the crowd's the same for one or if we take this to if we just follow the Super Bowl every year. I saw a headline through 24 really. So I mean that's what I mean it makes sense. I mean there'd be no reason not to go back to see that. Yeah I didn't see it either. I was looking. There'd be no reason not to go back there. It'd be just interesting to see if we got these same. crowd, the same atmosphere. Yeah, what was interesting is, like, I know it had to do a lot with the Super Bowl.

So if they follow the Super Bowl, I mean, I think Bob said this on Twitter. This leaves a ton of opportunity for them to go to other venues that aren't speedways or, like, aren't tracks in general. So next year, the Super Bowl is in Phoenix. You would go to Arizona State, like these big Cobble Stadium. You got to, you can't go. You cannot go, in my opinion. you cannot go to like an NFL stadium because of the construction. The fans are too much over the field, I think, and too close.

The idea of these football stadiums now is to get these people right on the field. Like, I think the Coliseum, the way these old stadiums are built, a lot of the old college football stadiums are kind of built with that slope where it just kind of runs straight back. You think like the Big House. Yeah, you're saying we can run an all-star race at Michigan in the Big House? Yeah, I mean, that would be unbelievable. Like, I mean, they showed that they can do this just about anywhere.

Yeah. That's one of the tighter stadiums. But, you know, I feel like the Super Bowl never goes to, like, Columbus, Ohio. You know, like, it's always a major city, and all these major cities are going to have big college football stadiums. You know, they're going to have places we can do this every year. Yeah, I don't think you've got to limit it to football stadiums either. I mean, we're building some really big soccer complex. Hockey arena.

We should do the hockey arena. Me and Herschman were talking about yesterday. Like, I mean, you can get really creative. Here's the challenge, right? NASCAR fans are tough on our sport. You created something really awesome, really cool, and you nailed it. And then if you keep doing it, it's going to get stale. Like now you've kind of set this bar of we can do anything.

And they literally did. I mean, talk about moving a mountain. They moved a mountain. So it would be interesting to see what happens. I mean, there's still plenty of short tracks out. Irwindale's not too far from there either. You beat your chest at L.A. is your biggest market, right? And if that's the case, you're in L.A.

You're right, square, smack dab in the middle of it. I hope they go back because I think they learned a lot from this place. Well, here's where, TJ, I think Irwindale is top five best short track in the country. You'll never get that atmosphere. The racing will be better there. When you say Coliseum, man, did you see like, so when you watch that video they played of all the historic stuff that happened there, that's pretty incredible. Yeah, I mean, it was, it was, like, I love Irwindale. I love the racetrack.

I think that every race that I watch is amazing. The event would be half as, not even half as good. It would be a C for me today because the racing would be fine. The racing would be great, but you just wouldn't have the same. I don't care who you run out there. That wouldn't have that effect. No, I agree. You watch the pre-race stuff, and it's John F. Kennedy received the presidency here.

Billy Graham had 130,000 people here. The Olympics from 32, the Olympics from 84. I mean, obviously the Trojan football legacy, like you just keep watching this, and you're like, man, this is why. And it's why I said this on a show. That's why I wanted to go do that event. It was killer. I thought it was awesome.

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As always, when asked where you heard about OfferPad, it's like the NASCAR option, so they know we sent you and keep this show going. Spot on, spot on. It goes like this. Spot on means you agree. I'm spot on. Are you joking me? He's lost his mind. Oh, and by the way,

No one ever seems to agree. And then spot off means you disagree. Spot off. Here we fucking go. This is the dumbest thing I've ever heard. But if you're T.J. Um, uh, uh, uh. There's only one correct answer.

I don't know. It's time for spot on, spot off. I don't know if I want to do this segment. Solid job on the intro. Shut up, Casey. Thank you, Casey. I'm just kidding. I'm just playing. Whatever. Were you, though?

First topic, Kurt Busch wrecks out of the second last chance qualifying race after restart contact with teammate Bubba Wallace shuffled him out of the lead, followed by chain reaction contact when Ty Dillon shoved Austin Zendrick into the corner, up into the 23 and 45. Wow, that was a long one. Wrong sentence. There's a lot. Lord. Ready, spot on, spot off. Let's let me recap now. for you, Freddy. All hell broke loose and you screwed your teammate.

Spot on spot. That's pretty much sums it up. Yeah. Unfortunately, we were not in control of our car when we screwed our teammate multiple times. So this was a special shout out to Harry B and Ty Dillon. We want to appreciate the two of them. Start finish line. Restart, Kurt's in front of us. We were second, we were first and second pretty much that whole second, that whole second concy, or half of it, I guess. Had it figured out. And we were just kind of riding around there, and then every restart was getting a little more aggressive, a little more aggressive. and that one Harrison got on our bumper shoved us through Kurt.

Kurt went out to left field. He got shipped back to, I don't know, fourth or fifth. Then Harrison kind of moved us up to racetrack again. He got away, and we came back down the racetrack with no speed off a four, really, and kind of just were trying to protect the bottom, but the two got underneath us, and Kurt went to the top because he had to run off a four. And Ty Dillon, I guess, I don't know where he was going, but he just got on the two. Austin tweeted that he drove a tremendous race.

that Ty did or Austin did? No, Austin tweeted that Ty deserved to be in the final because he drove an amazing race. Don't worry, we'll talk about this. So he, he literally just drove us. He drove the two wide open.

He's spot on or spot off. Good Lord. Jesus. The poor boss is in the infield. The poor boss man's in the infield from the first LSUQ. They had the camera. Watching all his shit get wrecked.

But the tweet says from Austin. I thought you're talking about Austin Cindrick. Austin Dillon says, Ty Dillon has driven his tail off. I can't believe that. He drove everybody's tail off. I know.

That's exactly what I was going to say. He knocked everybody's tail off. It's really easy to go into the corner is knocked the hell of somebody. Literally, I mean, him and him and Cindrick were like, they'd get to you and you'd have no shot. Like, they'd just drive, like, through the corner. And I'm like, what the fuck is going on? But that's the type of race in the... Yeah, but that's what they wanted and that's what they got.

Like, once that, and once that happened, it was, that race, like, all out of their race. races were clean. And then like once all that shit went down. They were all clean until that. It was like kill or be killed. Like everybody the only wreck to that point was Al Marolla. Yeah. And that was like a, Todd just misjudged it. He just misjudged it. Yeah. But yeah, that was that was, that was, I was learning.

I was like, give a break. Yeah, so we did, I mean, if you watch close enough, we definitely drove right over Kurt three times, but we got a little bit of help in the process. But yeah, that was, that was, that was interesting. TJ, what do you think? I mean, spot off. You don't ever like to see. You don't ever want to.

If you're going to wreck, you don't want to take your teammate with you unless it's Freddie, because I enjoy that. Because then we get to talk about it and stuff. But spot off because I like Kurt's, I mean, phenomenal race driver, fun to watch race. And, I mean, it's just a wrong spot, wrong time. Yeah, twice. Yeah. the trucks aligned behind him, the bumper's aligned behind him and had it in for him.

I just, we restarted and like just literally maybe one car length past start finish line. I was like, 21 is going to shove you right through him. Oh, yeah. Like he was pushing already. I was like, this is not going to go. That became the thing. The fifth place car. Can I just bring up one thing?

Freddie looks at me under one of these cautions and Bubba is third in line on the bottom. And you remember what you said to me? Watch this. He says, watch this. We went green and holy shit. So for me personally, had I been in this heat, I would have been frustrated beyond belief, but I was not. I was spot on.

I was sitting on the top row in tears, crying, laughing out of entertainment. Me and Colma Presley, I mean, I felt like I was at Myrtle Beach at a go-car track where we had 12 beers each and they had baby powder on the surface. This was the most entertaining thing I've seen us do it a long time. I was literally sitting here watching this thing going, if the promoter at Martinsville is not jumping all over this, he's crazy because if this is how we're going to race when we're we get there. Holy cow. Like our comp meeting to start, you know, like we go in a meeting and I had a meeting

like before the race. I wish it was, I wish this show was after your post one. And you know how, like, you know, normally your comp meeting is like going over pitch strategy or going over whatever, you know, the data that we're going to go through the race. Ours was like, okay, so when you move a guy, try not to let him get right back in behind because it's like a foregone conclusion that you're going to have to wreck somebody and how are you going to do it?

Like, okay, if you're running fifth and you've seen the white flag, just dump the guy in fourth because the race is over and you're transferring, he won't. Like, it's just the expectations going into the day. I learned a new move just by watching down the front stretch there. I learned how to block somebody into the wall. I'm turning me into the wall. I mean, that was kind of cool. No comment. We'll talk about that, I'm sure.

Can't we? Oh, boy. Oh, we touched on this a little bit. Ty Dillon penalized for jumping the restart with 18 laps to go in the second element. LCQ gets back to the lead and wins, but it's again penalized for jumping the final restart, missing the main event. Brett, how do you feel? Well, I got to tell you this. He jumped the restart before the restart that he got penalized. So he already should have been Blackflake. What I could not figure out, Casey, is how the fuck does this guy keep getting back on the front row?

I mean, I said, but then I figured out how he just knocks everybody out of the way and then he's back on the front row. Tad Dylan deserves a bonus for how hard he drove in this race and entertainment factor that he brought to him. Or how hard the front bumper is. The reality. The reality is three times he beat the leader to the gas. So I don't know who. Well, no. He was the leader the third time. Oh, he was the leader to the third time.

Oh, yeah. Oh, well, then he beat the leader off. Or he was a leader to third time. But he literally, the first restart of that race when he was on the front row, I was really looking at the guy beside of me going, he should have been black flagged. He can't do that. The next time he did it, they popped him. And then, yeah, we all thought.

So we were, so, yeah, I was, I think the first time was me, no, maybe it was Kurt. we were right there though for either first or second or second in line on the bottom and he was on the outside and i saw him him lunge and then he kind of came back but i was like that's a penalty like he fired first that's a penalty but maybe if he gives it back whatever but then the second time he did it again and i was like jesus how many times they let this guy do this they black flagged him and then we were the front row we were the outside car and i don't know how you guys do restarts but i usually count like the leaders are 10 away 10 away yeah yeah when you kind of mark you know and what i said five away from the mark he took off and i was like okay I guess we're going. You know what sucked when they gave him the black flag? Like you got dropped to the back or whatever. Damn, man, the first car he got to hit back out of the way was us. I'll tell you what sucked for one of the guys. When he got black flagged the first time,

the official pointed at the wrong spotter in the spotter stand and told him to go to the back. It was the two car. And I guess, I don't know if some, it'll be 42 to the two, some kind of... They repeated it, but you never do it on the third. You don't do it on the first time. That's why people, when you get a penalty, you wait for NASCAR, I'll tell you two or three times before you do it to make sure, because I've heard them call penalties and be like, take it back.

Was it the 10 car? 40% of the time they change something about the penalty, whether it be the car number or it gets waived off or whatever. Or they change what the deliverable is. Yes, it's severity. I'm telling you, the percentage from when they first announce it to when they actually finish with their verdict, it changes a lot. And in a regular track.

Could be better. Could be worse. At a regular track, you want to run it until. the end because if the caution comes out instead of your penalties now the end of the longest line instead of possibly going a lap down if you pit under green to serve your penalty. At one

time I was spotting for Landon Castle and we were at Martinsville and we got black flag for I don't know speed not pit road or something and no it wasn't it had to be something I don't know maybe it was a green flag pit stop but we were under green the whole time and they're post of 34 so I'm like all right we're going to run three laps I'll let you know when they bring out the black flag with the white cross

better come in. They never did So it was like 40 laps. We're out there. And I'm like, and after the two or three laps, they never said it again. So I was like, just keep digging. And eventually I was like, we weren't doing nothing. We were, I was like, they quit scoring your car, 38 laps ago. I was like, we better just pit just in case.

And so the next week was the meeting. We were at Talladega, so we had a spotter meeting. And David Hoots was like, let me ask you a question. Why did you not pit? I was like, because you never stopped scoring my car. he's like well we expect you to help us out there i said you ain't gonna find nobody in this room that willingly pits you know like until you make me pit i'm not coming if you pit under green and martins i'll probably losing two laps yeah so but i'm uh for the question kisi i'll be uh spot on

because we all saw it it was it's a it's a rule yeah you can't do it so well tj this next one's for you spot on spot off both roush fenwick kuzlowski cars miss the main event before the race, Brad Kislauski tweeted, I'm ready to go fully recognizing some moments are going to suck and brave enough to believe we will succeed. Solid quote. Spot on, spot off. I mean, I'm spot off. Obviously, you want to be in the race, but this is a, this race is absolutely like nothing else we will run the entire year. And not even a Martinsville that drive, like, you don't drive it anywhere near what Martinsville is. There's nothing else we run. We run. And so if there's anything that is the positive is you're not, you're not missing out on, I don't think, I mean, you're not missing out anything.

I don't think data wise, whatever. But, I mean, it did suck. Obviously, it sucks not to be in it for sure. But, you know, I would, I don't know. I mean, it's not ideal. It sucked. There's no way to really sugarcoat it. It sucked.

But we'll go to the next one. I mean, we get to redeem ourselves here in a week and a half. I think how his perspective of it. though like i mean it's not going to be easy no this is not changing teams a new car i mean freddy's been through this a little bit to see what a this is like a new company now so it's it's you're you're almost starting from ground zero um you know you got a you got to build and and you know that's the process is going on right now so um i think we did learn a lot that from this weekend and you know it was good to go to the racetrack and do a kind of a dry run before you get to

Daytona, you know, get there and tacking everything with the new car, so we kind of know what to expect when you get the Daytona. But, yeah, I mean, it sucked, but there's some, why did you know the tunnel still? It's just a product of, like TJ said, new teams, new car, nobody knows what to expect. Some guys are going to hit it. Some guys are going to miss it.

They missed it. Colleg nailed it. You know, Rick Ware was, if anybody has benefited from this new car, it's Rick Ware, because they literally had the three or four slowest race cars at the racetrack last year. And yesterday I watched Cody Ware run down AJ Almondinger for the last transfer spot in the, in the second LCQ. I watched Ryan Priest win the second LCQ, you know, and have speed all weekend. I looked at the first practice went out or, you know, the first group of three went out. And I looked at Brett and said, just so, you know, Preece is third right now and Cody

Ware is like eighth or ninth or something like that. I'm like, tell me this car didn't level the playing field for those guys. But you just see Colleg Racing. You know, I don't think anybody's expected them to go out there and just have Justin winning heat race and run up top five all day. You know, so it's just, you know, you go there with something you think's going to work and sometimes it don't work. Obviously, it wasn't like Brad was any good and then Chris wasn't good. They were both kind of off. So it's just something that they missed somewhere. And like TJ said, we're not going to, we won't be back at a quarter mile for a while.

So, you know, it's something you just write off and go through the motions. A lot of stuff yesterday was just about communication. Like we're Jason Jarrett was spotting for Kurt and a lot of it was just about, you know, how are we going to call the choose cone today? You know, like getting that communication stuff down and the communication with new crew chiefs. We've got a lot of, we've got a lot of really good people to start. Manukal is super smart, too, so we'll figure it out.

Here's what I'm spot off for. I think Brad knew it was going to suck. I think that's why he tweeted this. And good news for him is it says some moments are going to suck. It doesn't say they're all going to suck. But I think he, for whatever reason, I think he knew this was going to be a challenge this particular weekend. And it was.

I mean, he outran BJ McLeod, but I don't think he would have outrun many other guys out there. And I mean, if you take Collie Racing, Freddie brought this up, Justin Haley against Chris Busher, who would you have picked a finish higher yesterday? A.J. Amaddinger against Brad Keselowski, who would you have picked to finish higher? Neither one of the Roush Fenway-Kislausky guys even made it to the final. I was shocked by that because I know how good of a race car driver Brad Kuzlowski is. he's one of the most talented in the field. So to see him have to embrace potentially sucking before even getting there, very mature, but also, ugh, that's got to be tough to swallow.

It's not fun. I just can't imagine the, like, stress he has between being a team owner, a driver, having a new car, you have sponsors to deal with, have a whole team that is essentially new or changing. Like, you have to give him props. Roush has always been very divided. on the business side and the competition side. And they didn't, and maybe it's different now that Brad's over there,

but they didn't run those as one business unit. It was run as marketing and sales, which obviously has a lot of different facets, and competition, right? So now you have to wonder what they're going to do, because at the end of the day, performance in this business comes down to two things. People and resources. I have to think that Rouse Racing has the resources. because we've all got access to about the same stuff in terms of what we can buy.

And I don't mean literally buy like a lug nut. I mean like buy the things that make you go fast. So then it comes down to people. So I think if you continue to see these guys not have speed, you see people changes. And I don't think it takes long because we got a brand new car. This shows up quick. Colleg Racing is a brand new cup team. They ran seven races last year, right?

They leased everything out from RCR. This year they're their own deal. standing on their own two feet, they're going to have for sure some moments that suck, for sure, some growing pains. But I don't think that we expect Brad Keselowski to struggle for six, seven, eight weeks and not see major changes over there. Yeah, I mean, like he said, though, there's going to be weeks that are growing pains, you know, but there's also going to be weeks. I think that, okay, we are making progress and you got stuff to build off of. So you just got to Brad Kizzozowski has a good chance as anybody to go win the Daytona 500. I hope.

I mean, so does the rest of us to some degree. But when you leave there and you get to Fontana, you're going to find out real fast who's got fast cars. Oh, yeah. Real season starts after that day. I mean, Freddie just talked about Rick Ware, how slow they were last year. Guess who else was real slow last year that was charter team? B.J. McLeod.

What was he yesterday? Real slow. Yeah. He's going to get lapped in a freaking 25-lap heat race. I think that, you know, at the same time, I think a guy, and I think BJ might have said this somewhere, he couldn't race yesterday just for the fact of he doesn't have the parts and pieces to you know do what he need to do for the season but rick ware does yeah oh 100 percent but somebody

didn't do their job i'm just saying like that he put out there yesterday he really essentially wasn't racing yesterday like he just couldn't put couldn't do it so i hope rick ware continues to do what they're doing because that's what i want to see the small teams the underfunded teams do yeah 100 this is this is this is a this is the opportunity. This is it. That was the most expensive race NASCAR has probably ever run for the teams yesterday. Because you can't imagine the amount of inventory that was obsolete last year, coming out of last year, which they did make some changes there and some considerations to make some of that stuff work for us. But I mean, that car is brand new for everybody. Your upfront starting capital to produce that brand new car,

top to bottom, is very expensive. And Rick Ware made a huge statement by coming out competitive as they were. Sure. Moving on, spot on, spot off, the debut of the next-gen car, when, under the first caution of the main event, Denny Hamlin's power steering, Chase Briscoe, Jenny Hamlin's power steering, Chase Briscoe's transmission, and leader Tyler Reddick's drive shaft all broke. She's like, a lot of words, okay?

Drive words, shaft. Drive the shaft. And that is why I'm not a mechanic. So, spot off. Obviously. Two of these deals, Reddick and Briscoe were actually the same thing. They both had the same problem. It was kind of caused by driver error.

But at the same time, it's just unfamiliarity with unfamiliar. Unfamiliar. Oh, there you. Oh, really? I didn't say shit. They did. So these guys just don't know what they could do with these cars. And I think Kurt had a similar.

issue with Charlotte Test. But, you know, I noticed the first practice we rolled out there for, Reddick was doing very aggressive launches to try to get heat and rear tires as we rolled around the racetrack. And I had not seen, I actually text Chase this morning to see what happened to them. And he told me the same thing as Redick essentially. He's just, you know, shifting at the wrong time with, you know, and broke the drive shaft. But they were coming out of neutral when they did it. Yeah.

So they're, like, that's what he said. He was clutching it. And like you would, you know, cause, you know. If you were saving fuel, why would you save fuel out there? You were trying to keep your engine cool. There was a lot of issues with engine heat yesterday. So they're just shutting it off, trying to keep the temps down. But yeah, so same thing.

Just trying to come from neutral and then doing hard launches, they broke the prop shaft that goes to the trans axle. But I don't know what happened to any. They were confused by that. They just said they had a big power steering issue. They came in and the power steering belt was gone, so they don't know what happened there. That was something car-related versus, you know, maybe a driver error.

But, you know, it's just, well, I mean, what a heartbreaker for Redick. I mean, I thought that he was the best car all weekend. He was, he was a missile. I had texted him after qualifying and just said, good job, you know. And he said, man, he said, my car. He said, I thought I screwed my lap up so bad. I can't believe it was that fast. He said, I'm going to be a bullet tomorrow.

So, like, just to see that. And he had the race kind of in control. And then that just happens under restart. while we're just rolling around there. So heartbreaker for him, I think he's going to have a stellar year. So I'm sure he'll bounce back. Same with Priscoe. Obviously, Danny's great.

But yeah, just a lot of the issues, obviously, all people are, oh, look at these cars, are breaking already, but a lot of it was caused by the driver. I am spot off because this restart turned into a complete cluster, because both those guys had already chose their lanes, and we were coming back to the green when they both broke, and I would have liked to have an opportunity to reach pick where I was going to start, and I got the short end of the stick on that restart, and I don't know if NASCAR gives two flying f***,

if these lineups are a cluster after that kind of thing happens. But all too often we have people pick, and then after start-finished, they decide either, A, they don't want to double up or, B, they have a problem, and it's to everybody else's detriment that's behind them. So I am not a fan of when that happens with this choose-cone deal that it screws anybody. I wonder if there's a rule.

Bob, just Bob, Bob text us when you get this. Is there a rule for that? You know what I mean? Or are they just winging it? I think they're winging it. I mean, me and T.J. talked about it, Phoenix two, three years ago on a call with this looped out of crap.

And it just so happened that particular day. I was not ahead of him at the time of caution. Allegedly. And he'd come down there and he's like, well, he's screaming. I said, TJ, we just talked about this on the podcast. I just got screwed on this same thing. He's like, well, that ain't right. I said, no, it's not right.

But it's what they do. So, like, I think when you look at this. It's just, let's figure out when this happens, what are we going to do? So the A, spotters, no, B, drivers, no, because Haley's just as upset as I am, if not more upset. Because we would have made a different decision had we known. And at the time, the 14 was the fastest car in the race. He was absolutely flying. Him and the 8 were going to have a good race.

Yes, it was going to be awesome. But to the point of the parts, look, we're all learning these things. They're going to happen. This was, they found the weak link in the system. And these transaxals are $40,000 a piece. I promise you we don't want to go around popping these things. And I mean, most teams have probably $500 to $700,000, you know, per car tied up in these things. $350,000 or $500,000 per car tied up in these parts.

So we need these things to be durable. We need them to last. TJ. I mean, I'm spot off. I don't like to see, you know, things happen like that. But I do like the randomness, you know, it was kind of driver-inflicted. But, like, Freddie was right that we don't know about, we don't. know they're that vulnerable until they start breaking. Nobody knows until they break. So it's going

to be a learning curve. There's going to be other parts and things on the car that we're going to have to, this is a new car. We're going to have to learn it. Let me tell you something about this new car, by the way. I'm sorry. I'll get back. Well, I was just going to say it thoughts overall on the car in generally. The only thing that I took away from yesterday's race about this new car that I thought, not the only thing that was a positive, but one of the biggest positives I took away from that race yesterday was we beat the ever-loving hell out of each other door to door bumper to bumper and i don't i don't did you see any tire rubbed yesterday i didn't see one tire up i didn't see one guy get a flat because they rub wheels with somebody i mean that that bodes well for the future especially yesterday because

we were literally beating the shit out of each other and and never had an issue all day long across all the races i took three things away number one you can slide your left front tire every single lap like Bubba Wallace did for 50 feet. For 150 laps. And it still won't flat spot and blow out. I know why. You can just keep on racing. And there were a lot of them,

but Bubba, Bubba in my hands. I mean, he would just hit that left front. He'd carried it all the way down to the corner. And I literally saw his left front not even moving on exit when he was on the gas pedal. So the left front tires, holy durable. Front bumper, rear bumper, beat the living piss out of each other and not mess the cars up. There are some concerns moving forward when we get to these faster tracks. Oh, yeah.

We're going slow to you, though. When the right front hits the wall and some of those aluminum pieces that are up and under there, are they going to break these uppers and lowers and cram it back into the clips and all this stuff? Are they going to be durable? I don't know the answer to that, but for a short track. And this was a short track. This is as short as you're ever going to get for NASCAR. Holy, durable.

Yeah. It was fun. Yeah. Spot on, spot off. Kyle Larson's move on Justin Haley that sent Haley into the inside wall after he bumped Larson up the track in the previous corner. I'm going to go to the bathroom. This will be wild. Yep. Brett. What an idiot. Which one? So, huge restart. Obviously, a lot's on the line. We have an opportunity to get down. It's a small hole. We get down. You anticipate getting hit an ass. We did. When we got

hitting ass, we hit Kyle in the ass. And Kyle threw a temper tantrum and wrecked us. Pretty simple. I was very surprised that literally the guy who just won a championship did that. I'm still surprised. Did you say it again? Did you say it again? What? That's a real act of a champion. Did you get to say that again? No, because I think I just call it a punk-ass chicken. You were yelling. Is what I called it. But, I mean, having watched those races play out, I think you have to understand how that accordion effect thing is going to work. And unfortunately, you know, we caught the bitter end of it, and Kyle lost his temper and he wrecked us. So I don't know.

I'm not Justin Haley. I can't tell you what. Justin Haley's going to do. But I think that the big takeaway from me, then this was just, this was Kyle wrecked the wrong guy. Byron shoved Haley into Kyle and Kyle retaliated on Haley. But like here's the thing that I would ask in this situation is like, does Larson do this if that's anybody else?

It's a new guy up front and they don't like when new guys get up front. That's what I, that's where I, like Justin's going to have to take a couple lumps like this, unfortunately to earn some of the respect. But he took a big step in that direction yesterday, I think just by running up there all day and mind his own business,

not really being involved until he got shoved into somebody. But you're going to have to, like, this is an unfortunate deal. And now what a lot of these guys are going to be looking for is how Justin responds to this. And if he just goes about racing Kyle and moving over and getting out of Kyle's way, everybody's going to know that they can take advantage of Justin.

He's got to stand up for himself with next opportunity. Don't roll over for these guys. because if you want to get respect, that's the only way you're going to do it. T.J. I don't like to see him get wrecked. I thought that was a little aggressive, but I'm not 100% sure that Larissa meant to turn him to inside wall. I think he was trying to chop him, but I don't know.

I don't think he meant to destroy him. Yeah, he did. It happened. You can't take it back. So now, like Freddie said, it's now we see what happens. Tony Stewart, Carl Edwards, Ricky Rudd, Matt Kenseth. What would they have done? done. They won't put up with that.

That's how they had their reputation of you don't mess with me. They'll learn hard. What year are we talking about? Like 10 years ago? Doesn't matter. They ran their careers. I mean, and I could go through a long list of guys that race way too nice. Johnny Benson comes to mind who was a very talented guy, but he raced way too nice.

I saw him get taken advantage of them or any other guy on the racetrack. If you're going to be that guy, if you don't have that killer mentality, you won't make it here. And you know, like, you know those guys. Like, that's part of our job. Like, I've said many times to Bubbo or whoever, like, you can crowd this guy. Guy, he's going to give you room. Like, he's going to back out. Like, you can force this guy to slow down for you, or give you the spot.

You know those guys that are out there that you can take advantage of. There are ways to race with respect and still get your point across without making it a full-blown war. And I don't know. I mean, you look at, you look at, you know, that deal at Watkins gun a few years ago. You know, Kyle dumped us and Bubba come around and turn them right back. Like, if you have to stand up and say that, listen, I'm not going to let you push me around. And if this is what you want to do, that's fine, and I will wreck you as soon as I see you again. And hopefully you think that the next time they're behind you, they'll think twice about shipping you.

So it is what it is. And that's all Justin's got to do now moving forward. I mean, he doesn't have to go out, and obviously not Daytona. You're not going to do this or, you know, wherever. But I don't need him to go out there and wreck Kyle Larson the next time he sees him. But don't move over for him. You know, crowd him. Make his life a little bit difficult the next time he's trying to pass you.

This sport is so much about momentum. I mean, we just watched the freaking football game where the chief screwed up the whole second half because they screwed up the last play in the end of the first half. Like you're coming, you've come out of this with a third place qualifying run. You sat on the pole for your heat. You won your heat. You're running top three, top five all day with these guys. That's a momentum loser.

Now, Justin sat on a plane, had an awesome attitude about it. I would much rather have done that than to run around 20th all day in the back. Well, of course you would, right? But at the end of the day, now your reputation's on the line because you're new here. You've been in the cup series before, never in a competitive situation. situation, now they're going to challenge you. Now you're going to see what you made up, because these guys are piranhas. You're going to see a piranus.

He alluded to it in his interview, too, after the Infield Cash Center. He did mention the fact that he's a rookie, like, he needs to prove himself. Yeah. Props. Kyle Bush doesn't move Joey Lugano out of the way for the win in the closing laps. T.J. Spot off. That's why I picked him.

I think he would have, but he couldn't. He caught him. He got close, and then, just couldn't, I don't think he could get close enough to really take that shot at him. I think it was like short track racing 101. I think at the time, I think he called him. I think he thought he was better. And you don't, like short track racing 101 is if you're going to move a guy,

you don't want to do it with three or four to go and give him the opportunity to move you right back. You're going to want to wait. And I think he realized, you know, okay, I don't need to move him right away. And then as soon as he realized, you know, I'm going to wait a minute. All of a sudden, he just faded those last three or four laps and Joey drove back away. but yeah you don't ever want to moot like if you're a short track racer out there don't punt the guy with five to go and let him get right back by look i mean you can't catch you again but you got to get rid of him pretty good and i mean joey's one of the ones it's probably he would have probably got a turn pretty quick and come back after him and here's my question million dollar question you're ready for this one did you text joey legano congratulations i did not i thought you talked of me I did not

No, because he was mad He was still sitting on a plane So long waiting for Victor Lane to end It's waiting for Coleman and Spotter Get to the plane They're having I think he's having a baby today today Yeah

Joey? Yeah At least text him after that I will You're a liar Easy I can't tell whose face is more red right now I'm so too simple

They are both of them Do you believe in sunscreen? Let me tell you who's got the reddest face in the planet today is Joe Campbell, spotter for Chase Briscoe. He had this red Mahindra shirt on yesterday, and his face was the same color as the shirt. Did you see him at all yesterday?

He was cooked, and this was like before the race even started, so I don't know how we meant. You look like you have cat eyes with your eyes are all white, and then everything else is red. I don't know why that would be my... I wasn't wearing sunglasses. How hot it gets. Bright-ass light on us. You don't have that.

Yeah, that's what the problem is. That and that sun, it was hot. It was hot. Brett looked to me at one time. He goes, this is the hot. hottest 70 degrees has ever been. No, it was above 80. Especially where we were in the sun.

Bacon right there. It's 15 degrees cooler in the shade on the other side. Where I watched the race from, oh, me, your jacket. We were unfortunately on the visitor's sideline. Yeah, that's what I saw. I mean, we're on the visitors. Brett.

What? I've already asked T.J. my question as it pertains to that. Just go to the next one. Oh, fine. We all want to move him. Spot on. Spot off. Steve O'Donnell says it's unlikely we'll see a points race with an event like the clash on a shorter track with a smaller field. Ready. Yeah, spot on. That cannot be a point race. There's just too many variables. You know, you can't, we saw it all day yesterday. You could get wrecked by the guy three rows behind you or, you know, you could get junked for something that you didn't even do.

So you know, each race of the regular season carries so much weight for the whole season that you'd hate to see something like that happened where, you know, Justin Haley gets wrecked because somebody shoved him into Kyle Larson and now he misses the chase by 10 points because he gave up 30 in one race over something that he had none to do with. So, you know, you can't, I mean, event-wise, it was amazing, but yeah, you can't make that a points race. I thought Steve O'Donnell quit Twitter. Well, for a little bit.

Oh, that's good. He's back. Welcome back, Steve. Is he blocked too? No, someone tweeted that. Oh, he said Steve O'Donnell says. He did in a press conference and someone tweeted that. Okay. Well, is he back on Twitter or not back on? I don't think so. I don't think so. He's going to say this. I just saw something that was unbelievable happen.

So if we need more short tracks and we have the ability to run more short tracks, why don't we take and run one short track a year and pick it, you know, obviously with some strategy to it. Like there's so many awesome short tracks in America. If we can build one from the ground up, I know good and damn well, we can make Irwindale raceable, we can make Hickory raceable, we can make some of these other ones raceable, and make it a freaking points event. Like, I get this can't be one.

But if it was awesome, like I think the racing, this car proved to me yesterday, it can put on a good short track race. Now, to me, that means Martinsville and Bristol and what we saw. I don't know that that means Phoenix and Richmond. No. Because they're not short tracks. Phoenix isn't a short track. I mean, they call Richmond a short track, but man, it races fast.

It's on the edge. It's on the edge of not being a true short track anymore. But South Boston would be nice. Yeah, I mean, we just don't have any short track dates. We've got three on the schedule the rest of the year. You're skipping over to the next one. You got two Martinsville and one Bristol. Sorry.

Go ahead. Reed. Okay. Spot on, spot off. Dale Jr. tweeted, wonder if this is what actually ushers in the long-awaited short-track revival. Brett, you've already covered it. Yeah, Jason just hit rewind.

When Jason sent this, I read the word usher, and I thought he was talking about the ushers at the stadium, so I quit reading the thing. That's one of my ADD kicks in, Jason. I was good. I was like, why are we talking about ushers? What an idiot. He was going to perform, but we can't know.

Oh, I like usher. Dale's using big words like, Brett used the big word on Twitter, and Dale was confused by it. All these fan surveys they keep sending out, keep saying we want more short tracks, and we don't give it to them. Here's where I get, we have a tendency to find something that works and ruin it. A couple years ago, it was these road course races are amazing. So instead of just going from two to three or four, we went from two to seven.

And it's like, okay, this is a little bit much now. That's because Lewis Hamilton's coming. Oh, my gosh, that would be amazing. But, you know, listen, I personally would love to see 36 races like we saw yesterday, or, you know, maybe a truer short track where they're not running each other over all day. But I'm a short track fan, so I would love to see every race in the short track. But there's, I'm sure, half the crowd out there that likes to see them run down the straightaway at California running 200 mile an hour.

That would like to see that, too. 1.70. Well, I'm just saying what we used to. Last time we went down to straightaway California was pretty good. But, you know, I don't want them to say, okay, yeah, we need more short tracks and run 100 of them. You know, I think that ideally I want to just see like one new event every year. Like one, something different. You know, we saw last, we saw this weekend how that place was wild.

You know, we saw last year Bristol dirt was a different atmosphere than what Bristol's been in the past. You know, go like find ways to go to these new venues, whether it's in the stadium or an arena or a street course are talking about going. to maybe soon. Hell, I mean, let's have a figure eight race. I mean, let's do something new. I was just kidding about figure eight racing. But like let's just every year like figure it out. Like Brett said, if even it's just, all right, we're going to have a rotating short track every year, you know, and it's going to be, there's going to be one short track point race and it's going to be at Irwindale or it's going to be South Boston or it's going to be Pensacola, wherever, Stafford Speedway. You know, it's going to be one point

race. And when we have a new event, the people flock to it at least once. And then it kind of tapers off. So let's just keep doing that once a year, have one new vent that we can really let the people get behind. But I don't want to just say, yeah, well, let's usher in 12 more short tracks and change the schedule again. But I would love it, but I don't know if everybody else would. T.J.

I definitely like more short tracks. I definitely, and when I say short track, I don't mean the Coliseum. Yeah, I mean, I'm a true short track. I mean, if you say we're going to go run Haker, I'm going to say fine. If you tell me we're going to go run South Boston, I'm going to say that's all. Awesome. Let's go. So more short tracks like that, I definitely think would be a positive. Yeah, I mean, there's so many short tracks that you can go to, and they're all different.

You know, like Stafford Motor Speedway is a flat half mile. You can go to damn Salem, Indiana, and it's banked higher than Daytona, it seems like, and they run around the top of that place since a half mile. Yeah, Jason Jarretted. Yeah, I'm sure. Me and Jason Jarrett, we almost had a hell of a wreck yesterday. Tell this story. Oh, boy.

So we leave out of the racetrack and you couldn't go left like we needed to go. So we had to go right and go down a couple blocks and make a left. So we're coming up Slosson Avenue, which was not the greatest part of town. And it was sketchy, to say the least. But it was fine. We were driving. But anyway, we stopped with a red light just before the highway. And I see a car go like an expedition.

I think expedition, excursion, something, older one, like mid-90s maybe, goes through the traffic light. We are in the right lane. There's a four-lane highway, so two lanes going each way, and we're in the right lane. There's a car next to us, and then there's two lanes on the other side going the other way. The guy makes the left, and I just see the car hit a curb, jump up in the air, and then I look, and it's coming straight at us with no driver. And I'm like, I said, Jason, look out. And, like, he moved up a little bit. It didn't matter.

But this car just missed us, probably running 30, 40 mile an hour, and hit the guy behind us and destroyed his car. Oh. Like, and I looked, I don't know where the guy went. Where, what happened? There was no driver in the car. I mean, he maybe was on the ground somewhere in there. Did he have a 42 on?

But I was like, like, I was dumbfounded for the rest of the 30-minute drive to the airport. I'm like, could you imagine if our day, Jason's already had a bad day. He got wrecked 75 times in the, in the concy. My day was awful. Bubba locked the bricks up every corner. 911, what's your emergency? Yeah, we just got hit by this car with no driver. I was like, what do you do at that point?

Like, like, I mean, I felt bad. The guy's car behind us was destroyed. The only thing it could have made that story better is to have been a white brocco. Yeah. I thought you could say if it hit us. I mean, like I was dumb like, Jason, poor Jason, you know, he was like, just, what just happened? Because, like, he's just sitting there looking at the light. And I'm like, Jason, look out.

And he finally looks out the window and he's like, there's this extortion coming at us with nobody driving it. Life in California, man. I don't know if the guy bailed out if he, I don't know what happened, but. I mean, the only way to get that fast then it would be to bail. I mean, it's not going to go 40 Miner by itself. It's a new self-driving, 1985 expedition.

You heard about that one? Well, I'm saying he might have been in there, but like slumped over or something, but I couldn't. When his car was coming at us, there was nobody behind the wheel. And I'm like, oh, my God, what is happening? Interesting. Oh, last one. Spot on, spot off.

Rodney Childers tweeted that the team will only bring one car to Daytona because we can't get parts to build the backup car. T.J. Spot off, that's not a good scenario to be in. And I don't think there's a lot of teams that are struggling for parts. We kind of had some concerns about if you weren't in a good transfer spot to do you go into a little bit of a okay? you're not going to make it in.

Let's not knock all these fenters off for no reason. There was talks like that because I don't think anybody has a ton of cars. I heard multiple teams saying that they were just there to race and make sure their car came about. I mean, I had pieces on my car yesterday that are going on my Daytona 500 primary car. Yeah, and that's, I think you're, I think that's what a lot of people were in that position. Stuart Haas has been very vocal about this for a while. because they skipped the Daytona test too, right? Because they didn't want a chance tearing up a car.

I mean, I would be willing to bet, I don't know this for sure. I know of a few teams, but I'd be willing to bet there's not a multi-car team that has a backup car for every one of their cars. You know what I mean? Like, you don't, I'm not going with two backup cars. If you're in contention for the win, then it's a different thing. Go for it. But if you're not, I mean, it doesn't make any sense to knock.

I'm just saying, like, even when we get to Daytona, I doubt that they're like, Stuart Hass. think I can have four backup cars. I don't think 2311 is going to have two of them. You know, I don't know any of the major teams that are going to have enough backup cars that if they wipe out their whole fleet, they could just all get backup cars. And I hate to say this, but we could wipe out a fleet. Easily.

And I think that, you know. The duels? I mean, the duels are, I don't think we see a lot of, you know, pack racing. I think we may see some single file alignment to go out there and check speeds and whatnot, but I don't see a lot of pack racing and practice. I think we only see the duels in the five. Yeah, I think you see some manufacturers get their guys together. Okay, let's just go out there.

Yeah. You lead for two, three laps, switch it over, let somebody else lead. Maybe make some conservative moves, but nothing like crazy. So like NASCAR picked the vendors to supply all of these parts. So for example, RCR is building all the lug nuts, right? Barney Visser is building a lot of the suspension parts, right? I'm hearing those kind of things are now more readily available. I think where the struggle is, is like with the body parts.

the five star. And what it's doing is it's not only putting us behind in the Cup Series. That same vendor supplies the Xfinity Series bodies. So now the Xfinity Series bodies are also hard to get. So what we saw early on, and if my source is correct, is that the distribution was even. In other words, if we had 40 people needing something, they made 40, they gave them out. Well, now they're going off of points. Well, if that's the case, now those slower, lower budget teams, and smaller teams, like colleague racing, like Rick Ware.

We just talked about how impressive they were out west. Well, if they're not getting the same opportunity to get the same parts as everybody else in the front, well, they're going to be in trouble, right? So from a pure inventory management perspective, if NASCAR handpicked these vendors, NASCAR's got to be very careful that the distribution is fair. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, I think Daytona is going to look a lot different than Daytona has in the past. I think that, I think practice is going to look different.

I think the races are going to look different. I mean, you know, it's going to be, you got to remember, like when we ran Daytona 500 last year, if you went out there and destroyed your race car, you had whatever, two months to fix it to go to Talladega. You're bringing this thing to the West Coast. I don't know where you're running it, whether it's Vegas, California, Phoenix, but you need it in a week and a half to go to the West Coast again. So, you know, whether that, there's two things I think play into this Daytona 500 that is going to be interesting to see. How much guys are willing to get in that pack and risk.

destroying a race car that they might need in a couple weeks. And listen, NASCAR has done a lot, whether it's behind the scenes or not, to alleviate the concerns of these drivers about how safe this car is. But with that being said, I don't think anybody wants to be the first one to really find out. You know,

and I think that the level of aggression, we've seen some guys are willing to be aggressive at these tests. They're pushing and doing what they want. And NASCAR announced the rule that they're not going to have, announced that they're not going to have a rule about pushing. So, I mean, it can get very aggressive. out there.

But I think you're going to see a lot of guys maybe ease back on the aggression level just for the fact that they don't want to be the first guy that wrecks this thing and risk something happening. Well, let me ask you this, though. Didn't I see a rule that NASCAR has said they don't care where you get your backup car from? I don't know. Like if Colleg runs out of cars, they can go to RCR.

If RCR runs out, they can go to REL. I mean, I saw some weird things saying. Well, if the car is certified, yeah, I mean, if the car is certified, it shouldn't matter. Are you saying if in Daytona, they run into an issue and one team has a spare I don't want to talk about stuff. I don't know what I'm talking about on here because I do that enough. But when I don't know what I'm talking about, I'll admit it. And like, I just heard something along lines of we're not limiting where you get your backup

cars from. Yeah. So in other words, Stuart Haas doesn't wreck any cars and another 14. Front row or somebody. Yeah, wrecks, you know, a couple of them. They can go to them and be a lot. Well, what's going to happen if we say, hey, we ain't got enough? You just don't start.

You just through your sponsors? You're out. Yeah. Wow. Right? I mean, what's chartered territory. I mean, it is a risk for sure. That's what I'm saying.

I think that that's why it's just going to race a lot different than we have in the past because you literally need this car in two weeks. You don't have enough cars to, it's not like we have five primary cars ready to go for the next four or five races. Have they provided any background on timing such as like the West Coast? A lot of these guys stay out there for or have haulers meet halfway. Like if those cars would be ready after. They're not coming home. Right.

I heard what did I hear today? Like Xfinity series. they're going to make you have to run the same car I think at Vegas and Fontana so I mean assuming the lot of guys are just stay out there and work on the car now

but you like I really don't understand what that does I guess just cost savings well it's definitely saving because a lot of teams send cars out there on trailers don't let the big truck come back I had to I think it was Herm told me that the other day and I haven't looked into it any since but

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Engine engine number nine I'll tell you if they don't hurry up and pick this track I'm gonna run out of beer and cigarettes Okay so TJ look at the f***ate all the time Why we tell you this fucking date? Hey Freddy just letting you know we got the beige GMC out in the parking lot

In case you want to have Bubba come out and hit us Like you said everything out on the track so Hey now Jason got a message for you Get out of Downers ass Reaction theater starts now Clash at the Coliseum, best thing I think I've ever freaking seen done. The only crime about today is the fact that I just had to pay $52 for three beers. But other than that, I'll do this every year they want to do it.

Brett did tell me it was $15 a beer. They were some tall ones, but that's still a lot of money. I think I saw a Martin's So Hot Dog. They called it Martin'so Hot Talk cost like $9. And at Martin'sville, I think it's a dollar. Yeah. Listen, I did see, during the race, since I was spectating, I did see a girl come by. She had their footlong hot dogs.

Just stop. She holding one of the big turkey legs, too. No words needed here. Typically, my opinions aren't too far off from NASCAR Twitter, but they are way off from nearly what felt like the majority of people who hated the race. I can't understand why people hated the race. It wasn't like this was settling a championship in Homestead or Phoenix. This was just for fun. There's no reason anyone should have hated this race.

And I guarantee you 50,000 people weren't showing up to the clash in Daytona. That guy is absolutely right. Anybody that hated that race had their mind made up that they were going to hate it long before we got there. What's better? The clash or the pro ball? The clash. You're talking about yesterday's clash, I assume, right? Yeah.

I mean, really, any clash. Because they're full out, at least. Listen, the Pro Bowl pisses me off. I mean, I used to like it as a kid. I used to like it a lot as a kid with the competitions they would do before. And then... That's all that you do now is the competition. Yeah, the fun, like, accuracy things, like, whatever, for fun events.

Now it's like a handful of years ago, and they even stopped tackling us off. I'm like, this is ridiculous. I mean, Brett hates everything for him to compliment NASCAR. I don't know if it's like a New Year, New You thing or what, but... I love everything. I knew the Pro Bowl was screwed up. Stupid.

When Josh Allen didn't get invited to it. Yeah, Mac Jones got invited over Josh. He's an alternate. He's an alternate, buddy. It's okay. Freddie, good job making the main. TJ, I bet you're glad you left Lugano now, dumb ass. I think I won, though.

Yeah, I beat your ass, right? What? Hold on. Something bothered me about yesterday. So, I said I beat you in the race, but because I was the only one left. So Blaney gets out of his car, right? Oh, they didn't show it.

For one, they didn't even show it. he got out through his Hans at somebody Eric Jones and so he's in like he pulls in the infield tore up whatever he gets out throws his Hans device at him so he's in there for I don't know 20 30 minutes we're out there riding around

go have you know a couple restarts so I was two laps down and I forget who I think Ricky was the last car a lap down so he gets lucky dog and the next caution I'm like okay we're the now we're the dog you know it's two down Ryan fixes his gets back on the racetrack

and I'm like, okay, so I'm looking at my timing and scoring. I'm like, wait a minute. Blaney's only a lap. How was he one lap down? We only got one green flag lap in the whole time he was in the infield. So now he's still, he was in the infield for 30 minutes. He comes on a racetrack and he's still ahead of me. And he was going to get the next lucky dog if we had a caution instead of me.

I was like, why the fuck does this work? So that'll be my rant for the only thing that I didn't like about the clash was that you could sit in the infield. They missed the guy throwing the Hans device on TV somehow. And then he comes out of the race. still ahead of me. Blaney's a very feisty individual. Very feisty. I will say I'm pretty disappointed, though,

in Fox. Blaney loses his mind for the first time ever in his life, throws his Hans device, and no one saw it. Not one camera. Way to ruin reaction to that, Freddy. Bravo, you f***ing idiots. It's like, who do you call an idiot?

Fox. Oh, I'm sorry, Jason, I can see the future. You're really good at that. So let me get this straight. Ty Dillon wrecks every single car in the field, jumps the restart twice, and then thinks he's the greatest thing ever because he won the heat race. Dude, a freaking monkey could do that, all right?

And I get it. Like, you've never let a race before, so you probably have no idea what goes on at the front of the field during a restart, but, like, freaking figure it out, dude. I mean... That wasn't even a heat race. Yeah, that was a concede. But I'll tell you one thing.

You're talking about the way Ty drove? I bet that that painted a pretty big target on his back for these restarts. I mean, he jumped the restarts by quite a bit, so they didn't really have a choice. But they probably had no hard feelings about putting them back the way he drove in that race. I ain't mad at Ty Dillon. Like, I honestly thought, I mean, I thought I saw really. It wasn't no different than anybody else, really. I mean, he was a little worse.

He was actually quite a bit worse. Him and Austin were both quite a bit worse. Mr. Watch this beside of me. I just did it the one guy. I think Ty realizes this is it, man. I don't mind him going for it. I mean, what was it? Somebody said the Geico sponsorship left him for NASCAR and now he gets kicked out of the race in the Geico restart zone.

Pay it forward, Geico. But honestly, like, I think Ty probably realizes, man, I got to show I want this and he showed it all weekend. But he's got to be careful. You can't, like, we don't have 30 these cars lined up to be used here. so it was just over the top him and Austin were over the top like you can't move guys without Hey Bowman and Burton are beating

and banging too though like it was You know when you were like when they were Cindrick would He would be five wide and the one It seemed like every time like you know if you go three wide If you go three wide If you dive to the bottom and force the three wide You're wrecking the guy on the outside

You've got to know and it's your fault Just because you can dive it in there Because anybody could Like that guy said Me and Freddy could have went out there and barrel it off in and knocked somebody out of the race. I was crying. I was literally in tears crying. Can we take some go carts or something there and Legends cars?

It looked like. It looked like the spotter race at GoPro. Oh, yeah. Brett broke Ford Martin's neck there. That's right. You would have been purf for this race because you did just. That's why you better be glad I'm not a driver. Leave it to you, Brett.

Literally, the kid's helmet almost fell off or did fall off when he hit. Did he come out of the seat or something? He shouldn't hit me. Not for page. Navarre's coverage on Fox is trash. From zoomed-in views of Bubba Wallace in 23rd rather than lead changes or not explaining how Kyle Bush magically took the lead after half-time,

man, that was trash. Also, Keselowski and TJ, you suck. You probably should have stayed at Penske. I'm kind of surprised that there's not better Fox reviews because I would have thought Tony Stewart being in the booth have been a home run. He was great. Him and Clint were awesome.

I think the problem, we saw this watching qualifying the night before, and I see this across a lot of the even flow, dirt vision, some of the streaming services now you see. Listen, like, and I had to say this to one of the guys that produces the show at Riverhead,

like, just because you've got these cameras doesn't mean you need to use them all. Like a lot of them are, you know, speed shot, flipped to this camera, every lap at the camera. Like,

there's nothing wrong with, just like a normal action shot of the track. I like the close-up camera at the football games and stuff. You know that one where they blur out? Yeah, it's like high-deaf, like super high-depth. That's awesome. But when it's like you want to see more. Yeah, like you can't just.

I watched Cala, LA Coliseum qualifying on a television that was about 30 inches. So by the time they broke it down into two cameras on one screen, I didn't have a whole lot to pull from. Like I wasn't at home on my 70-inch television sitting on Freddy's big-ass couch. I think they need to take into consideration that a lot of people are watching on mobile devices. And if you split the screen on a mobile device, holy cow, man. I was actually texting with Clint during qualifying and sending him a picture of what the TV looked like where I was and saying basically, and I don't like to listen to volume, no matter

what I'm watching. NFL, it doesn't matter. I want to watch the game. I want to watch the race. I don't need a whole lot of commentating to entertain me. So, yeah, I think that to y'all's point, like sometimes, sometimes let me. This is more. But there's a lot more, like the split screen thing, there's a lot more to it from a

sponsor standpoint. Like payment, sponsor exposure. I agree. But I do think also, like I said earlier, this track has to be challenging for them. It's not a speedway. I know, but it being smaller, you feel like you should be able to get, there was somebody hitting somebody on the entry every corner. And if you're just following the leaders around there when they're five, if you're

following the leaders around there and they're five crawling, apart, you're not catching these guys in the back who are trying to stand the lead lap, trying to get back up through there that are knocking each other out of the way. That's what I want to see. There's something... I would have followed Bubba every lap too. Every lap was very exciting for us.

There was breaks locked up, smoke coming off. We had a hell of a day. All right, next one. Brett, I hope you ripped the heads off of every mother-s that said it was not going to go well. That said it was going to be a disgrace to the sport. It gave us everything we

wanted everything we've been asking for and everything NASCAR needed raise hell praise Dale let's go boys can't wait for the whole season to roll out he's ready to go he is right out I'm pretty sure I was the most optimistic one last year I was gonna say you should you two you guys were like negative

well Brett changed his mind about halfway through I changed my once I knew more about it I saw once he got there and south of the race was optimistic leading up to it when they said Ice Cube Brett was like oh it was great I called and tried to buy a sweet, Casey. I think I was pretty excited if I was going to buy a suite.

I don't think I was down on it. They were sold out. Should have got a golf cart. I hope it was cheaper than one I just got in Daytona. Same price. You can rent a Ferrari cheaper than I'd run a go car. The suite of the Coliseum cost the same as the golf cart. I can't say a word about this topic right now.

All right. You want to talk about it? I know. You need to cut the out. Got her to cost the first episode. great season. To leave an audio message 24-7 goes into anchor.fm slash door bumper clear and click the message icon. We will keep playing the best

ones on the show each week. Keep the at track calls and the songs coming because I think we need another contest this year. Offer pad, question of the week. Since it's Super Bowl week, what's the Super Bowl watching setup look like at your home. Brett? I'm actually going to Colorado this week to go skiing. I leave on Wednesday morning and I'm not flying back until Monday because I didn't want to miss a Super Bowl. So my Super Bowl is going to be a condo and I've got fondue ordered in. Some fondue service is coming to the condo.

And I'm going to enjoy it. What the way? Like not barbecue or some wings. You're ordered fondue. That's my pick, honestly. I wanted to do something cool for the kids, TJ, and I mean, I can't taste still from COVID. So Freddie has unfortunately heard me by that for three days. I read Brussels sprouts and asparagus. I can eat anything because it tastes terrible. So I was like, hey, man, I want to do something really cool for the kids because it's not like they're going to be crazy into the Super Bowl because Bodie's a Jimmy G fan

and a Tom Brady fan. Well, neither one of them got in it. You know, so I'm like, man, what do I do? It's going to be awesome. So we're going to ski all day, come in. Then we've got this fondue that's going to come and get set up. Exactly it is that, though. Is it like liquid, is it?

Like the melting pot? Well, I don't know. I mean, I don't know. I mean, how are you going to have his head under the thing? I'm just trying to do something cool for the kids while I watch. You win. I gave you props. I would go.

So that's, I'm going to have hopefully a fire, some snow outside, some ponds and water. Can't see. How are we going to do? How are we going to beat that, Freddie? What's our new vodka? Oh, high rock vodka. What are we going to do? I'm going to be fondu.

You and Fred should go to fondue together. No, forget that. Melting pot or whatever it's called. We're going to the golden crown and taking the chocolate fountain, bringing it back to Freddy's living room. Freddie. Normally I have a big Super Bowl party. That is canceled this year. I think it actually got canceled last year, too.

But, yeah, we're going to, it's Megan's birthday of Super Bowl Sunday. That's why I got crazy. That was going to be hard to explain to Megan why we were having a Super Bowl party on her birthday. Where are you taking her? Backseat. I'm taking her a beautiful, beautiful sunny New Samarna Beach. Poor Megan. We're going down Friday.

I'm going to do a couple races at Newsomerner for Jimmy Blewett. And then we'll have some time Monday, Tuesday, to kind of slack off a little bit and maybe enjoy it. Sunday, we'll go somewhere. My buddy Rob's in town. He's got a house there, so we're going to stay with him and hang out and probably partaking some beverages. Go see Chad and Ocala. So you're just staying down there?

Are you staying? Yeah, I'm going Friday. I'll stay all week. TJ, what's it look like? It probably looks very boring since my favorite team did not make it. We're going to hear about 13 seconds forever. So I'll probably watch a little bit and just normal living room, wait for the kids to go to bed probably and hopefully who are we pulling for?

I mean, I hadn't decided yet. I called every freaking bar in Beaver Creek. Hey, are y'all having a Super Bowl party? Nope, nope. I'm like, well, this sucks. I mean, I'm glad the Bengals are a good story, but I also like Stafford. I'll tell you what, underdogs are covering against the spread like never before in these playoffs. Oh, big time.

So, Cincinnati may be a play. I mean, Green Bay, Tampa Bay is out, bills are out, chiefs are out, those are the. Underdogs are killing it against the spread. Yeah, so Casey, what are you doing for a Super Bowl? Anything fun? I'll be ruining it for Chad. I'm sure Chad's a huge football guy. thought about it.

Probably. What's a better story? Stafford or Borough? I think Stafford. Man, Stafford, he's been, he's a hell of a player, man. Like, he's been clobbered so many times and still gets back. He threw that one touchdown or whatever with his shoulder separated or whatever. He's a trooper, man.

And I'd like to see him, I'd like to see him get a Super Bowl. I'd like to see him win that last game by four instead of three. I'd like to go back and have 13 seconds back, too. Well, that was a disgrace. You know what's good, though? My home's through that interception to the bang. It was 13 seconds into overtime. Not that it changes any damn thing for me, but I mean, I feel a little bit better.

I love football. Great week for sports, for sure. I mean, what a great deal. You get to watch L.A. Coliseum, and you get to watch Super Bowl in the same market. You know what sucks even more is to feel on the fire a little bit here? Del Jr.'s got to go the Super Bowl. Wow. Bummer.

Has to go. So sad. He's not staying for the Super Bowl. But then he goes, hey, if the bills would have made it, I would have went, we would have stayed. I'm like, thanks for rubbing it in. Yeah, all right, okay. Like, we isn't you and him, or we isn't him? I don't know.

He said he would. He said, I could have went with him and we would have stayed for the Super Bowl. So I'm like, sweet. Is it on NBC? Yeah. Yeah, my guess. Go get a cash offer on your home today with our presenting sponsor, Offerpad.com. The boldest, most transparent podcast series ever produced by Dirty Mo Media.

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came second. I have few regrets in my career, but I have some disappointments. Bright front tire. Jeff Burton. This is not good. No. Came in as the championship leader. Yeah, I mean, this pretty much does it for us, unfortunately.

And I cried that night. I did. I cried because it was, you know, I really believed we were going to win that championship. Most of my life was the tail end of his career. Those were kind of the years where he was struggling the most. And he always wanted to win and he wanted to go out on top and it just didn't happen. And that was why it was so sad. The Burton Continuum. The first four episodes are out now. on all major podcast platforms. What an idiot. Time for what an idiot. Freddie, who's first?

I mean, there was quite a bit of... That's why I said who's first. There's quite a bit of options here. I think you have to give it a tie Dylan. I think that... I mean, I'm not even talking about the way he drove. I just think the fact that he jumped three restarts in a row from the front row. And the second one, like the last one, I think I said it as it happened.

I was like, well, he jumped. You know, like, it's nothing you can do. But, like, it was clear and obvious. It wasn't close. I didn't think. And especially for being on the bottom, I don't know why you were jumping as the leader. Like, I guess maybe trying to get a gap on third place. So, the guy on the outside wasn't going to beat you unless he jumped.

So I don't really know. I can't think of anybody better to get it this week than Ty. T.J. Yeah, Ty's a good candidate. But he made it super interesting. But when you beat yourself, when you get to, I mean, he, had the damn thing won. Right?

I mean, he had it basically won. Just don't do something illegal. Yeah, I mean, just restart the damn. They're probably not even going to hit you because they know you're going to blast out if they get back if you get back behind them. So they're probably just going to be okay running behind you. So you can't beat yourself like that. So, yeah, Ty, I mean, I feel like maybe we need to, we need to, like, print an award

or something and actually mail these out because these might be like pretty good collector's items down the road for these guys, people that win it, you know? Yeah. Like an Emmy. Did you ever win a win an idiot award? People are proud when they win it. Sometimes I get text messages, Jason, and they're not proud. Yeah, I was going to say. Derek Krauss walks around.

Man, I grew up with an infatuation like the state of California. And I went out there for my first time in the sixth grade, and I went back when I was 18. Me and my best friend drove out there. We actually spent three months out there. Drove to California. From Paisland, South Carolina. Three-month deal. And I thought about going to Southern California.

What Chad does every year. Three months? Yeah, three months. Thought about going to Southern Cow. I came home. Obviously didn't go to Southern Cal, went to University of South Carolina. Anyway, long story short, I've been going to California literally every year since like 1998. And L.A. is like, in our minds, like, it should be this really awesome place.

I mean, like, when I hear Los Angeles, like, we should all want to go and take our kids. And I have never been in a city and seen more drugs on the street. and more filth and more lewd acts and more literally people relieving themselves on the sidewalk out of all the places I've ever traveled in my life. So the mayor of Los Angeles and whoever the city leaders are, they hands down win my, What an Idiot Award, because we're bringing a brand new sports and entertainment industry to your city.

The Super Bowl is there this week, and you should be absolutely embarrassed by what the downtown city of Los Angeles is letting happen. I have never, ever seen heroin in my life until this week. That's freaking awful. That's kind of scary. You're getting random next week. Yeah. Speaking of that.

I'm fine. I'll take piss test all day long. But I also will say this, I have never smelt more weed during a race than yesterday either. And I'll tell you what, there was campers lined up on Thursday when I got there. Did you see them do? You didn't see all the camera? They've been there a while, look like. So what did, like, literally there's motorhomes.

And I don't know, like, there's campers, like, motorhomes in them. I saw this in Burbank. Is that what you're talking about? No, this is right outside, like, between downtown L.A. and the racetrack. Really? I lived there for a few months every year, and Burbank has changed a ton. Is it, like, how do you? I love, I truly love the state of California.

I actually had a fun trip. This time of year, it's pretty. The weather was nice. No small. and then Freddie and I go walking out of the street and it's just a complete crime zone. So different. Just so heartbreaking because I love America. I love American cities.

And the leadership in that place is a joke. I thought it was nice around the... They don't deserve a Super Bowl or our race, to be honest with you. It's not the Staples Center. It's the Crypto Center. Yes, it used to be Staples Center. That area was nice. I went to dinner there one night and all the Super Bowl ad stuff was going up.

But that area was fairly nice. Just frustrating. Yeah. Anyway. Hey, what's up, DBC fans? If you haven't heard about Anchor, it's the easiest way to make a podcast. Let us explain. Well, first of all, Freddie, the best part is it's free.

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Hey, good news. Las Vegas event sold it out. We got people come and listen to this. Alabama, Wisconsin, North Dakota, Michigan, Georgia. We got people traveling from all over the country to this Vegas event. So I'm pushing Davis pretty hard for another one. I think we'll have at least one more coming up. Somewhere we can keep you nice and clean.

We'll see how smart some of y'all are. Yeah, it sounds like it's, It actually took off pretty quick, so I'm pretty excited about getting to Vegas. We got 60 of you party hail raising DBC, DJD, 30-mode fans coming to race hell. Of course they do. What else would they want to do? Alex and I are going to see our first time in Vegas. You pay every week to come see us on Mondays.

What's the different? Do you all hear that? Jocelyn is going to Vegas for the first time. Can you guys be my tour guides? Saturday. Oh, Jason, you have no idea. You do not. You just f*** up, Jason.

This needs to be like a whole vlog of the week. Lots of vlogging. Have you not seen that movie? I can see us making the call now. Mike, we have lost Jason. Yeah, he's on the root. What's that movie? The hangover?

Yeah, the hangover. Jason be up all their sunburnt and shit. Alex will show up with a face tattoo. Jason be the one that ends up having a baby or something. Oh, man. That's a kid's name. That's Brett. Carlos.

Carlos. You need to, that needs to be your look for Vegas. Yes. So it's going to be fun. I'm stoked for that. Jason, when are you coming? Saturday, early afternoon. So we only get it.

Like one day? One night. When do you fly back, Monday? Yeah. We're going to record a little later that day. Did they put you on the red-eye Sunday night or the Monday night? Oh, that sucks. That's so bad.

Mike's such a cheap ass. Why wouldn't he send you on Friday? Because it's only a hundred bucks more to sleep. No kidding. Like the flight's going to cost the same. Just go enjoy it. for a little bit. Change your flight to Friday. Yes.

You're not making it bad. Are you getting a car or two? He probably put you to high, probably put you to quality in there Vegas too. Oh, wait. Mike is going? Of course. He's the, what day is Mike going? He's the star for the sweet.

We're all going Saturday. See, but you need to go early. Forget Mike. They're probably flying private. You've got to go get content, Jason. You can't get all the content. Yeah, you got to go get content. Especially Saturday night.

Especially now that you're the director of content or whatever it is. You need to come to the racetrack on Saturday and get content from us and get NASCAR to let you do it because you got so many people that love, so many people on NASCAR love us and love our show. Where are you staying at, Jason? Big fans. That's a good question.

I'm not sure. We can talk about this after. Let's get DBC for something like that. These stratosphere or something like that. Circus, circus. Welcome to DBCPicks 2022. Beer mint rhino. Yes.

Yeah, you don't need a room. Literally just stay there. Jason, it's the most expensive room in Vegas. I can't promise you that. It's a shoe show. So from experience. Lots of shoe shows out there, Jason. I swipe my credit card.

He got declined it with so much money. Oh, I am so excited to share that we have some additional players and additional stakes on the line this season. So guess what? 2022 Casey and I are joining DBC picks. And the stakes are the loser, whoever finishes last, after the whole season is going to have to buy first place a really fancy dinner. And this is fancy. Like Golden Corral? No, like, no.

No. Casey, you don't have a song. You don't have a chance in hell on winning this. Let's make picks. Applebee's on a date night. Let's make some picks for Daytona. Freddie, you're at first. Great.

Daytona 500. I'll take Landon Castle. Oh. Brett. Whoa. Daniel Hammer. T.J. Hold on.

I'm not even prepared for this. I think it's behind it. There it is. It's nice to know they're all available again Oh man I'll go to the bulldozer Ty Dillon I'll go

Adrian Dengger He's not in it He's not racing You had all winter to come up with that You and Jason decided in November We're going to let you all into this And you pick the guy That's not even going to be in Daytona

I thought that he might Why tell her that he's not in it Let her have it Let her have it Those are so mean You should have let her You make it so easy I don't know

I don't know to tell you I didn't know Okay well there's 45 other names there Go ahead and just randomly pick another guy That might not be there Yeah That's rude Now I'm mad

I think honestly I think you should just take Rex And he'd be a good one Well he's in it If he'd qualify Oh that's right He's in the 62 Or whatever

Sorry Redick Redick Go on Reddick Reddick Yeah That's where I'd use Tyler. Great idea.

No. Drivers race track. So let's just start telling Casey down. Look at that. She's looking at me. So Casey, I want to go to the fondue place for dinner. Just so, you know. Can I get a table for two under a craft and boat?

It'll be a crafty boat fondue. Oh, my gosh. How is I supposed to know that? I'm sorry. I'll pick Corey LaJoy. That's a good one. I'll tell you what. Casey is loaded for bear at Daytona.

I almost took none. Noah because if he races, if he gets into the race, it's worth a shot. All right, no show next week. We'll be back after the Daytona 500. I would like to remind everybody that... You don't know who the hell is in the Daytona 500. Next weekend... Honestly, how am I supposed to know that?

I don't know. Next weekend is... Our next week is Valentine's Day. So I really like chocolates and flowers. Or any merchandise from racing USA.com. Yes, absolutely. I'll get you a bowberry biscuit. Or buy a house on Offerpad.

What are you expecting from Chad? A house on Offerpad, that's what I want. Great Valentine's gifts. What are you expecting from Chad? Nothing, because he races. Race at the start. I will sell my house on Offer Pad and you can buy it. Happy Valentine's Day.

He'll leave the couch, too. I will leave the couch. I love it. All right, well, thank you all for listening to the show. And as always, thanks to Offerpad for staying with us. We're excited for a new season. Fun season coming up this year. A lot of lot to talk about all year.

Don't forget to tweet us, like, share, post. Send in reaction theaters. Whenever. Send them in any time. Anytime. Have a few drinks. You all like my beard? Yeah, it's coming in quite well.

All right. Well, we will see everybody at the pub, I guess. Is it a playoff beard? I don't know what it is. It's just a beard that I don't have to shave off, so it's actually okay. It's all right. Oh, I love it. Thank you all for listening.

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