Door Bumper Clear - 245 - COTA: Moved or Wrecked?

Episode Date: March 28, 2022

The first road course racing weekend of the year is in the books as Door Bumper Clear returns from Circuit of the Americas. Brett Griffin, T.J. Majors and Freddie Kraft share concerns about spotting from Turn 1 at the Austin, Texas course. Freddie explains Bubba Wallace's loose wheel issue that ultimately ended his day. And the guys announce exciting news about the next Dirty Mo Media Ultimate Suite Experience at Charlotte Motor Speedway for the 600.To begin Spot On, Spot Off, the table discuss NASCAR’s inconsistent enforcement of track limits in certain parts of the course. Hear NASCAR's response to the missed calls and the crew debates alternatives to fix the problem moving forward.Next, the gang analyzes the last lap fireworks between Ross Chastain and A.J. Allmendinger. They discuss whether Chastain moved or wrecked Allmendinger as they battled on the final lap. Hear their thoughts on the proper “bump and run” etiquette and Allmendinger’s post-race comments.When Ricky Stenhouse Jr. crawled to a stop on the track, NASCAR ultimately threw a caution after some drivers elected to pit. What is the right call for the officials and teams when they see an impending caution? The guys discuss the situation and whether the correct decisions were made.“The Hack” Alex Bowman made contact with Kyle Busch and Stewart Friesen at the end of the Truck Series race costing them all the win. Find out what the guys have to say about Busch making a mistake and how he responds to losing post-race.NASCAR handed out its first major penalty to Roush Fenway Keselowski Racing for modifying a single source supplied part last week. TJ shares his thoughts on how his driver, Keselowski, will have to overcome the penalty and what it will take to salvage their season.Later, the guys respond to Twitter debate from last week about whether NASCAR is more entertainment or sport. Then, hear their thoughts heading into the first true short track race of the year at Richmond Raceway. Find out why there may be some cause for concern racing with the Next Gen car at the raceway.Thank you to our presenting sponsor Offerpad and partner RacingUSA.com for making this show possible. Want more DBC? Check out and subscribe to the new DBC YouTube channel! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

What's up, everybody? This is Door Bumper Clear, presented by Offerpad. I am Brett Griffin, spotted for college racing. Guess what, man? We're back from the first road course race of the season. We were in Cota, and there's plenty to talk about. We'll cover Ross Chastain, AJ Amandinger, last lap moves, NASCAR enforcing track limits and old Brad Keselowski's big penalty and tons more. Let's get started. Nobody's listening, but I don't care. I'm on an episode of Door Bumper. clear. Hey everybody. I'm T.J. Major's

Spotter, the six cup car, the one truck and the six-day affinity car. What a quiet week has been. Quiet? Is that what you would call that? Quiet? Been quiet. Greg Riff and Spotter Colleg Racing had Justin Haley yesterday

and Daniel Hemet the day before. And I got to say, it's good to be home from Cota. Yes, it is. Freddie feels the same. Yeah, I'm good with not going back there for a while. What's up? Freddie Crafts, Potter for Bubba Wallace,

Derek Kraus and Lannett Castle this weekend. And yeah, I was riding around on three wheels again yesterday. Well, not again. That's the first time this year. Shout out to whoever brought me that Cajun Filet biscuit from Bojangus.

Shout out. Whoever didn't feel the cooler. Shout out to Jason for no waters to wash it down. I know. You are literally walking the studio. 30 seconds later. You have a sandwich in your hand and you're like, where's the water.

We all get here. Jason, the Alex and the kid over there. And Ben over there. They've already got empty sweet tea glasses, empty biscuit wrappers and stuff. You like the driver that doesn't know his pit crew guys name.

And there's a bunch of those drivers out there. Coming to you. Coming to you, producer. Coming to you, spotter. Coming to you, producer. And drinks are only for people in the top 30 in points. Ooh.

Yikes. DJ, is it true that you were all great today? Yes. Because you're working in the gray area. Yes. Jason brought that up before the show. I didn't want to be sure got on here. Yes, I'm trying to get away with some stuff here.

I woke up this morning. Went to bed at one-ish something. I don't know. Finally I fell asleep on something. I get up at 6.30. And I get ready. And I don't even look. I grab a jacket.

And I look down, I'm like, my jacket's gray. My shorts are gray. And my shoes are whiteish, whatever. So, you know. 50 shades of gray. Yeah, I am. At least you got the black hat rolling. Yeah, I described that.

Six shades of gray. That's dark gray. If you were colorblind, if you were colorblind, it's gray. So, yeah, it's been a long morning. So did anybody get Smith slapped over this whole penalty thing? I did just morning. You did? Morgan, Overstreet, our new PR.

She Smith slapped you? Yeah, her social media director came and Smith slapped me. Rightfully so. So now I've got to unblocked Dirty Moe before I get slapped again. It's because you're being sensitive. Well. Okay, Brett. I figured Brett gets to block people all the time.

I wanted to try it. But Dirty Moe was pissing me off. So I had to go. Maybe Chris Rock needs to talk to you about throwing a block. We've been trying to get that damn pinned tweet for everything. Brett started kissing our ass about something else. You had it for a few hours. Speaking of tweeting,

I noticed, you know, Hannah does the Deltjuring download a little bit now. And if her head gets any bigger, it's going to start fitting into Dillner's Fadoras. Who? Hannah does. Oh, yeah, she's cocky now. Who's, she first of all, she wouldn't have been even on the show without Freddie

because Freddie was like, you should consider Hannah Newhouse. I'm like, okay. Technically me, because I had another job. So I go, look through her stuff, listen to her. I'm like, man, she'd be good. Let me call and talk to her. I call and talk to her. I'm like, yeah, I think you'd be good.

And now she acts like her shit don't stink. She, I'm telling you, if her hair gets any bigger, she's going to be able to wear Dillanors Fedoras over there. Like, she just, she just, she just tries to stir stuff up on Twitter. Like, who is she? Gilles. Oh, man.

Good Lord. We're, I mean, we get you on here a little bit. Then you just, you slap us. It's okay. What do you call that? The funny part of my Twitter exchange with her was, she was like, oh, you don't sign my contracts. No, but we do send out the invitations on who's coming on our show.

And then it got nothing to do with a contract. Not one thing. Yeah, I don't know if. I don't think she knows how this works. That's obvious. I don't know how you lost your last job, but I tell you how you're going to lose this one. Tweeting like that.

Okay, so we all thought the same thing. Yes. Oh, yeah. We're in agreement. Perfect. Ask Jr., hashtag. Boy, that takes a lot of work. As donor gives her the evil eye because he wants to be doing it.

Yeah. 100%. Oh, well. Coda. How about Coda? Freddie, did you, uh, Bring that tire to the studio that you guys missed. I did not.

It's still rolling around in Austin, Texas, somewhere, I think. I think I was a down down. Oh my goodness. Yeah, I guess. So first stage, we had the plan to short pit the stage, which means obviously you come in a couple of laps for the stage ends. You and 30 others. Yeah, and flipped the stage.

And so we did that. And in them two laps or three laps that we were running, Bubba said, I've got a vibration, which we joked on here before that said, that said, Break it all red. know, you could, you couldn't leave these wheels loose. Well, this is the second time this year.

Bubba's caught a loose wheel early enough to where it didn't fall off on the racetrack at the time it was loose. But I think it would have happened was I think it damaged the pins on the, on the backside of the tire of the plate there. And it just got worse as we went. And he actually thought he broke a rear end or something on that restart. They had just told me to tell him, we do have something wrong with the left rear, but it's just chewing the wheel up a little bit.

I think we're going to be okay. and that lap it fell off down the back stretch there you never want to have a vibration that messes up your rear in no never want a vibration in the rear end you ever seen those memes where that that dude comes on

and is like emotional damage I just pictured that whenever you had that problem how many loose wheels is at this year already four or five it's one a week it seems like apparently that's three for him well one that came off though that's a bigger problem about booty's gone yeah booty's on vacation he's going kind of

he'll get four weeks with he can can't come in the garage. Yep. And a tire changer. Yeah. And tire changer too. Is it the Jackman? I don't think it's a Jackman.

It's potentially. I don't. I don't know. I know it's definitely crew chief. No, you don't get the crew. It's the crew chief and the tire changer if they could choose. Yeah.

I hope they suspend the spotter. I was asking Soco if they could possibly suspend me. But TJ's the only one in jeopardy getting suspended because he's got no crew members left. They got the crew chief out for a month. They threw the car chief out this week. I'm not going to lie when I saw Bob tweet to the 6th I'm like oh I'm waiting for the message I'm just waiting to get my running out of people

yeah I was getting ready to put my bat in my radio and my bag and be escorted out the crew chief has as much to do with that wheel falling off as the spotter does that is I'm sorry but that rule needs to be revisited and I don't know what the right penalty is for that but at this point in the game and given the fact that there is

only it's either on or it ain't and if it ain't on it's coming off like I don't agree with his crew chief being suspended for four weeks when he literally didn't do anything wrong. Yeah, but I mean, said, hey guys, let's leave the wheel loose and watch it, roll around the racetrack. Have you never been punished at home when you didn't do anything?

No, I never got in trouble. Yeah, you get in the time, I'm sure. I've never been in trouble. Ever, ever, ever, ever. You look up saint in the dictionary and it's my picture. Yeah, I'm going to go ahead and say that's probably not going to happen. Or true. Oh, yeah.

Yeah. So the big thing I told everybody last night was Bubba drove the wheels off of it yesterday, which my buddy Brian Hosford, he corrected me and said he just drove the wheel off of it, not the wheels. So it was just one wheel. The guy from Phoenix? Yeah. Oh, yeah. Motor home driver.

I saw him last year there. We went on vacation with them in January or December. I don't remember December. The Disney or whatever? No, we went to Key West or Isla Rana. Three good races this weekend, I thought. I disagree. I had a pretty shitty week.

With the exception of TJ and his drivers, it was a great weekend to watch racing. Did you see the amount of trucks that were tore up? How was that a good race? I'll tell you what I didn't see. I didn't see any of the people spinning at the top of turn one. I did not like the spotter stand that I was on. Wow. That's a tough location.

Where I was at last year, I could see a lot of the racetrack. Were we lower this year than we were last year? Well, my comment over the radio was, we're at a $200 million race track, and yet we're on a scaffold that. they used to put up sheet rock in a parma complex next door. It is absolutely ridiculous that there's not a better option because the grandstands right beside of us would be the perfect option. Put us in the grandstands.

There was room there. Oh, there's tons of room. Put us on the top row. Closest us to start, finish. A. Our angles are better. I'm telling you what, man, the first time they came up that hill, I literally said, I have no idea where my car's at because we're so freaking low.

Yeah. We were low. And I was like, I mean, there's times where I, I was like, how many are really over there? Was that two or three, four over there? Okay. Yeah. Just lean on that guy beside you.

Yeah, I mean, that's where one of them spotters. I was like, you feel them. That had been one of them times. You feel them. Like, yeah, I tweeted a video of it yesterday after I fell out of the restore. And you were more left than I was. Yeah, they were literally straight all the way to the right. Yeah.

I was left. I was about as far left as you can get. And just to get a little bit of better angle, but still, when they came up that hill, you were literally just about eye level with them. Like to where you're... I'm not going to lie. When that truck, um,

17 truck came spinning up there, you weren't there, I don't think. No. Me and, me and Herm had talked, I had asked somebody like, Herm,

what happens with one of these throttles hang? We're going to get killed. We are, I mean, jump and hit us. Noah did it last year. You guys run over there. You were over there last year when Noah did all.

You were in the Xfinity race probably. Noah, you know, was raining, obviously, but Noah hit that tire barrier right in front of us. We were waving to him. Uh,

he was buried in the tires. in that gravel pit. But he was literally, you know how close he was. Yeah, he was 10 feet away from us. Oh yeah. Yeah.

But what if somebody straddle actually just hung? It'd be real bad. It'd be bad. So that's 17. 200 miles an hour coming right at you. That 17 came spinning up there. And I was like, ooh, do I need to,

I'm getting ready jump here. What's going to happen? Maybe I'm, well, actually, I know I'm an idiot, but maybe I'm a bigger idiot for saying this. I honestly thought the first time I went there, going to a place where F1 races,

it was going to be some illustrious experience. And it really is not. Like as far as... I mean, the track. The track itself, like where the driver's race is pretty incredible. It's pretty nice. I mean, I think it's very futuristic looking the way they got the tower with the thing. But like when you actually get into the fan experience that we could see, like it's nothing,

it's a dirt road going around the racetrack. The fans walk around. Like, I just didn't expect that. I expected as much money as those teams spent. It was dirty. Like, not, not like, it's just a lot of dirt. They hadn't been picked up trash from last year where I was at. Yeah.

I will say that I've noticed that with some other Formula One race. I've looked at like when some of them guys wrecked and they're walking down them rows to get back. You see the driver get out of his car and walk. He's walking on very similar things. But I do think the racing surface is incredible. I think the racing service is awesome. Yeah.

But definitely, you know, I. 20 turns is a lot. Yeah. And I would think with a place like that, if you're going to have NASCAR, you're going to have spotters and things like that that would be maybe a little bit better. Just a little consideration. The problem is nobody else uses a spot.

We're the only one. And it's a learning thing with them. Like now we like they had us parking at the top of this hill and walking down a hill half a mile then back up a hill with all of our equipment. Luckily we got that worked out. There's literally a lot right next to the spotter sand that is now a spotter parking

lot. So it's it's way better. I would have taken my own personal money and bought a ticket in the grandstand right beside the spotter stand in order to have a better view to do my job. I don't know what tickets cost, but I could afford it to do that to make. There was some guys who did that that moved over to the other stands in section

and turned 12 over there that bought tickets. Some of the JGR guys that just legit bought tickets to be a fan, you know, and sat over there and spotted. Yeah. Do you get to drink beer if they bought a ticket? I think so. Yeah. Especially because you only doing like two or three turns.

Did you reckon the truck race? that's a given. No, we didn't. Oh, well, we almost got wrecked. So that idiot lost Austin Wayne's self. The 16 wrecks him on the first lap of the race. And then he tried to hook us at the end of the race because he thought it was us. Like, we were going by him back there.

We put tires on late and we were going by him. And he just literally just hung a left and tried to right hook Derek out of the racetrack. And I was like, what the hell was that about? He said, oh, he thought I wrecked him on the first lap. Yeah. Which is like, I was nowhere near him. We ran into. one of them times when the Chris Wright

wrecked somebody there going up to hill. He was sideways, he was sideways and spun out front of us and turned one numerous times. Like when you get back there, like, and this is the frustrating part about the truck series,

is you're back there, you can't even learn anything because everyone's just driving. You're not even racing. Yeah, they're not even racing. Like they're just, oh, there's a hole there. I'm not going to complete the pass, but I might wreck you or do something.

And it's just to go for everything. Like you can't even really learn how to race there in that part. And, you know, unfortunately, they wreck in front of Haley. And she hits him with the right front and it breaks the suspension and we're done again. So I feel like if we go to Richmond and a kangaroo escapes from the zoo and crosses the track, we are going to hit it. So. Yeah, kangaroos in Richmond?

I don't know, maybe. I mean, it might She's just, I mean, just bad luck There's nothing you can really do But you're in that area And them guys drive like that Like that's just part of what can happen So can kangaroos

Escape from zoos? You probably jump over the fence You ever seen that? You ever been kicked by a kangaroo? No. I mean either, but I wouldn't want to be. The one thing that I Like, I don't know how this can happen

Because there's The yellows take forever Especially a place like that Especially plays like Road America I thought they were pretty efficient They were, NASCAR was doing a really good job of, like, hurrying it along. Yeah, and making them quickie yellows instead of a freaking full cycle. Because that extra lap is a long, it's 10 minutes.

Yeah, it's 10 minutes. Yeah. I have to go to the bathroom and then go back to me again before we go back green. I've seen Dale tweet something like he missed the end of the race because he fell asleep during the yellow flags at the end of the truck race. Yeah, life's hard for him, huh? So, you know, he's probably, he was probably 30, 40 beers in by the end. Yeah.

That's what we're going to ask him. Yeah, where are we? We should get on there tomorrow. You guys are ridiculous. Hi, Jason. How do we get on Ask Junior? YouTube Live. Watch the YouTube Live.

And Hannah will probably not read your comments. We're just going to see if y'all. Can we get on there? Can we get on there? Just show up on the record. If he had a good nap, he should be here this morning. We should just get in the background in the shop. Like while they're doing that, James Jr.

Live. We're just getting the shop and bang on the glass. Yeah. Ruin their segment. So I can be live live, live or it's just my voice live. No, nothing. Just you're typing. Yeah.

They're live. They're live. That's the next question. Why don't they let the fans on there in video form? I wonder why they just don't let fans on there on Phil Dern. You got an air warrant? Why wouldn't you do that? It is the same reason why we can't have a live show.

Hashtag Ask Junior. You know what the closest thing to a live show is? The Dirty Moe Media Ultimate Sweet Experience. Yeah. Charlotte Motor Speedway. We're having an amazing time. Without Hannah. And we're going to let Casey come.

I'm invited? I've decided Casey can come. Wow. You're coming? Apparently. She didn't know that. I had no idea. Casey, we'd love to have you.

Yeah. We just need somebody to clean the tables up and shit. I'll know. I'll bring Chloe. She can clean for me. Our listeners. Actually, that's what happened here. Chloe's the one we want to see the suite, but we know you've got a driver.

I'll just see her PRF. It's fine. Oh, my gosh. But we've literally got all the same amenities we had at the last one. We're going to have awesome food, awesome drinks. private restrooms and guests. Host on Coke 600. That's a big one.

Can you imagine? Can you imagine how much beer you can drink 600 miles? Fireball? I mean, we're going to have to put two fireball bottles in the end. Yeah, we may have put extra fireball in there. Everybody gets fireball. Why don't we, you know, we need, we need fireball to send a couple of those keg things they got.

Yeah. Just barrel. Yeah. Bring them in there. Yeah. Fireball sweet. That would be great before a race. Yeah.

My favorite thing about being. inside of Charlotte too is in May it can be hot here. And that's a 6 o'clock race. You know what I mean? So you'll get to come hang out. Be awesome. We had our pools, wouldn't it? Yeah.

It's, you know, and just the seating alone, you're sitting in a cushion seat up in a suite, air-condition suite versus sitting in a hard back chair for, I mean, that race is easily four hours every year. And you can't forget pre-races always. Oh, that's the best pre-race of the year. Yeah, they've done some really cool things.

You'll see, if you're in that suite, you'll see guys jump in, out of a helicopter right in front of laying stuff blowing up there. Yeah, that's pretty cool. My favorite part of the whole Vegas experience is that Mike Davis truly believe that everybody came to see him. He didn't realize we were the main attraction. Is Mike showing up again this year?

Did he get him twice? I'm sure. Wow. We were so humble to meet everybody. Mike Davis was just like, all these people are here to see me. Could you believe that? Yeah, I could believe me. I don't know a long time.

Of course I believe that. So you all do a Q&A before the race. If we started to go fund me, what are the odds would they let us put you in that cannon that shoots the guy? Just shoot me into the suite. No, I want to shoot. Would you ever do that? No, I would never do that.

Are you ready to f*** mine? Yeah, a little bit. What about? How fast would he fall? That would be the question. Like the geometry involved in planning out, Freddie. I might just go into orbit. Come fire.

What about the skydivers with the American flag? Can you do that? No, why? I've got to really get, dude, I just, I've, I mean, I just see you coming. I can see you getting out of that can just like spanky spangler. Like just swan, you know what I mean? Like perfect form out of your arms out like a swan dived. Like a cheer jump?

This is a whole new version of Air Freddy right now we're talking about. We can name the can in Air Freddy. We can put it on the, this is going places. And if you have your pre-raced pit. road access before the race and you might be able to You can light the wick. Yeah, you could, if you have the pre-race pit pass, you can light the wick on my cannon and shoot me off down to front-strip.

Pull a little extra. Freddie Lane and turn one. And that's included with the, with the, yes, I mean, it definitely doesn't get much better than this. Could you hear the crowd going, oh.

Oh. Take out okay. Oh, no. Oh, no. Oh, my gosh. And so I saw in. Vegas. Everyone had their scanners on the whole race there and they were all listened to y'all and so I think

each one of you wrecked at some point in that race and so everyone was like listened to the scanner as it was happening and they were all making funny all so you'll get a scanner, you'll get your own sturdy multimedia swag bag with a lot of cool stuff. There'll be raffle prizes throughout the day. Private parking pass. Vegas was awesome. That was like the coolest race experience of

ever witness so if you want to do that for Charlotte you should do it. I remember the afternoon was a little more clear than the morning. You should have seen Jason in the beginning that morning. He was hurting. I walked up and he was literally just staring at his phone. And I'm like, Jason, you're right?

So then can we go? It's all your fault. Can we do, uh, can Jason go out the night before again? Like downtown, that's what I was going to say. Yeah, there's be a pre-race party in Charlotte the night before. Jason, where do you live? What town are you in? I'll be in Indy.

Oh, never mind. You're not going to this. You're not going? I can't say on the air because then people will be mad that. Nobody's going to, nobody's going to care. Are you for fun or? Between you and Mike. I don't know how it.

ever make it. Cool. What are you doing? Going to 500? Yeah. Jesus. We're going to get really drunk there, but what did he?

Go to the snake pit. If you don't take a picture in a snake pit, we're not friends anymore. All right. Sounds good. So buy your tickets now, jerrymodemone. They're going to sell out quick again

like they did for Vegas. So get them now. Yeah. Come to our home. Come to our home. Davis will be there. I'm sure Dillner's going to find a way to try and sneak in there.

Special guest announcement tomorrow on the download. special guest Why would we let Dillner in there? He's just going to go in there. I didn't say we're going to let him. I said he's going to try and sneak in there. He should not be...

It's for VIP. The dude's like 6-4 and he's like an offensively. He doesn't sneak in place. They would have to let him in. Do not let him in there. You guys are just being rude today towards Dale Jr. Yeah.

I got a chip in my shoulder about Dirty Moses. Yeah. We're waiting to him. Morgan slap me this morning. Waiting on Dells Jr. You're just up, right? Yeah. I'm still waiting for him.

And he should be rested up from that nap yesterday. I mean... All right, join the party in Charlotte. Come hang out. It's a good time. Tickets are going fast. Running out. Can't wait.

What about those diecasters? Are already sold out? DiCaster sold out. There's some t-shirts available now. So racingUSA.com slash DBC. Get your DBC Justin Ongy or car t-shirt. They will be ready before Dover. So if you'll want buy it now, you'll get it in time for the race.

Sweet. That's going to be a fun one. Freddy will be at the bottom of the elevator before the race is signing autographs. Go on a clear car wins and we all party at Fired Ice and celebrate. Oh my God? Speaking of a win in a party.

We go to victory lane if they win. Yeah. We're going to lay on the hood where our pictures are. Do we lay in the hood? We're going to go in there and we'll kiss our ass. If one of our cars finish a second, we're going to fuck that thing up in victory lane so we can win. Junior Motorsports has to brown nose their sponsors.

We'll be the, we'll be the sponsor, T.J. Oh, they'll make an exception. We get the hand holding. We'll be. We'll be. next to Justin right in the front getting pictures. Woo! Yeah, that's exactly right.

Probably forgot what that looks like, right? Speaking of the sponsor wins, Neutrax Solutions has got their first win of the year this weekend with AJ. We had some Neutralax Solutions people there. It was fun. We went to Egos, a karaoke bar in Austin. It's a beautiful place.

Fun, fun night. Yes. I told Chris during a race, he was crew chiefing. He wasn't really crew chiefing for Justin Haley. He was more so just calling the race, you know, because Chris is out of touch with these. setups to some degree. But I told him already, I said, I'm telling you right now, if AHA wins this race again

today, I'm believing. I'm not going any more victory parties. No kidding. I'm out. Speaking of victory parties, another first-time spotter winner, Brandon McReynolds. Oh, is that his first cup win? That is his first cup win that I'm aware of. Unless he might have a second spotter.

Yeah, he's spotter playoffs. And the fireball sales in the state of North Carolina is getting ready to triple for this week, because that's all Brandon ever does. Yeah, go ahead and change the batteries and the microphone at Saeeds. Yeah, and he will be on stage singing somewhere or something. Six races, six winners. Yeah. Wow.

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When asked for you, heard about OfferPad, select the NASCAR so they know we sent you. Spot on, spot off. It goes like this. Spot on. means you agree. I'm spot on. Are you joking me? He's lost his mind.

Oh, and by the way, no one ever seems to agree. And then spot off means you disagree. Spot off. Here we fucking go. This is the dumbest thing I've ever heard. But if you're T.J. Um, uh, uh, there's only one correct answer. I don't know.

It's time for spot on, spot off. First topic, NASCAR's enforcement of track limit rules in turn 3 to 6, spot on, spot off Brett. Man, this is a tough one. You know, I saw a photo of literally the 9 car and the 07 car shortcutting an area of the track. And in that same areas where they black flagged the 27 and the 51, and those two guys were going to have good runs, lower budget teams with top six runs going. and then yesterday I heard my driver complain about the nine shortcutting. I heard Denny complain about Larson's shortcutting.

I actually saw. Heard more than one. Larson's shortcutting. And I don't understand why it's so difficult in today's world with the amount of technology that we have to be consistent with these discretionary calls. And that's the first problem. Okay. If we go through there and we put the turtles down like we have at the roval,

does it fix this problem? My gut sells me probably. I think the bad news is if you were to wreck through there, you would ruin your day. It wasn't a problem last year. You didn't a problem last year. So I have to say that I am spot off for the fact that T.J. could do it and get away with it. You damn, right?

Freddie could do it and get penalized. And I heard them penalizing guys yesterday, but it was all backmarker teams. It wasn't any superstars. So I don't know what they're using to judge this area, but whatever they're using is inconsistent and they have to fix it. If you need to put a camera over there, an overhead camera, and one official looking at just that one corner, then do it. You cannot have guys that are getting to take advantage of the system,

essentially run out of bounds, right? If we're going to set all these boundaries, because that's what they're doing, which we said last week was dumb, don't have the freaking line rule. but if they're going to set all these boundaries and we're going to have an out of bounds, you have to have a surefire efficient black and white means to judge it. And we don't have that. So I am 100% spot off on the way this was handled all weekend. So I reached out last night to the NASCAR comms folks and they simply said they missed it.

And obviously, you know, I had sent him the picture of Noah and whoever was behind Noah. 07. O7 off the track. and they said, was that in the S's? I said, yep, and they said, well, we missed it. And I, you know, we talked about the process, and they have a stationary camera over there, and they have officials in that area. But you got to remember one thing in their defense is it's not one corner.

I mean, they were, for the most part, cutting one corner, but it's a set of corners, three, you know, three through six that is where the, where the rules are in place. So, inevitably, you're going to miss some. No, you wouldn't. Not if you had one camera and one person at every corner. At every corner. Correct. Yeah.

If you have to have it at every corner. I know what our investment was to go race out there. Yeah. Oh, 100%. So then they need to step up their investment. There should be somebody sitting there. And we talk about a judgment call or a discretionary call. It shouldn't be a discussionate call.

They're either all four wheels are off the racetrack or all four wheels are not off the race track. And there should be a guy going, okay, nine. You know. It's like pitting out of the box. Yeah. You're either in the box or you're out of the box. I don't know what the answer is.

Like Brett said, you know, turtles, we've seen turtles cause a disaster. You know, if somebody gets shoved, you know, they made a call on Briscoe, but he had gotten shoved off the track and they took the penalty back. But now if you have turtles there and Briscoe gets shoved off the track and blows a nose off his car, is that really what you want? I don't think so. We saw that last year at Indy, you know, where guys were getting forced off the racetrack

and I think it was McDowell destroyed his car, you know, potentially hurting people. So I don't know the turtles are the answer. I don't know if, you know, you put dirt down. So it's clear as dead. hey, you know, if they drive through the dirt, that's obviously a cloud goes up and that's a penalty. But there's got to be a better way. You can't simply say we missed it.

You know, especially in that situation like Brett said. There was land and asked me during the convenience race. He said, have they warned anybody about cutting the track? And I said no, which just instantly told me, everybody around him is cutting the race track. And he's thinking about doing it himself because everybody's getting advantage of it. They did warn people in the cup race because they, Warren Larson because on the broadcast

they... Okay, so is that right? Casey, is that the thing to do? No, I'm just saying that they were starting to... Hey, you probably shouldn't do that. The day before we penalized guys for it, but today, I was not real sure we want to do that. I did not hear NASCAR come over the radio and say that.

They did. They gave a filled warning, but it was a full filled warning. It wasn't like just one guy. But if there are people cheating, kick them out, post them. Black flag them. TJ, what do you think? I am spot off too because...

In the truck race, we were the first one to get a penalty for it, but we got ran off by Kaz Grawlup. He just started coming over. Like, we weren't there. We lost position. Didn't go all the way off or whatever. Just got forced over a little too far. And we lost position, didn't pass anybody or anything. And we get a penalty.

And then later in the race, the same guy does it to us again. And we didn't get a penalty. We lost a spot again and we didn't get a penalty. How do we get a penalty the first time and not the second time? I told the creature, like we're probably going to get another penalty here. We got run off here again. And I don't know. I mean, there's way, definitely some inconsistencies here.

I don't know why. Do you think if I gave you a camera and I gave you a button that you would be capable of saying that car was on the track or off the track? Yeah. Me too. I think you could put a small curb there. It doesn't have to be a tall one, but you could put something there being like, all right, guys, this is a limit. You go across this, sit, you know, and just something to get their attention. I hate this out of bounds.

I hate it. I'm not a fan of it. I'm sorry. I'm not a fan of it at any racetrack. If it's black, if it's concrete, if it's asphalt, you can run on it. It may not be advantageous for you at times. But when you look at turn one, we go up there and we're all sorts of out of bounds in turn one, but there's no out of bounds. What's wrong with a small curb?

There's nothing wrong with any of it. I mean, remember what comes Glenn? What's wrong is what we're doing? I miss about Walkins Glen is there used to be a curb on the right and then a little curb on the left and that made guys, now they come through, they're almost, it's like they're almost wide open through there. You know, they lift a little bit and then they're, they're going across that dirt flying through there. I remember watching like Robbie Gordon go through there and his whole right, you could see his tailpipes. It was right side of the car. He would hit that thing so hard and then go back to the left.

But there was a, there was a technique and a skill to it. And I appreciated that stuff. Now there's like, okay guys there's a line there don't touch that you can't put a rule in place that you can't enforce 100% of the time and enforce it accurately and that appeared to be what we had you get like we've said on here all the time if you give these guys an inch they're going to take a mile

and if you're not calling it to the letter of the law then they're just going to keep abusing it until and I would love to see the difference in what got a penalty versus what didn't you know I heard everybody about Larson cutting the race on the spotter started yesterday I heard numerous

who would come over there there. Like, exactly. Everybody in my section was complaining that Larson was cutting the racetrack over there. I heard a bunch of people talking about Chase doing it. What were they doing differently than the 34 car that got a penalty? You know what I mean? I want to know what the difference will. Yeah, the 27, 66. 66. Yeah, the guys that are not, McDowell might not be irrelevant to road course, but the 27, the 66, they're irrelevant. Those guys weren't even really racing anybody back there because they would come by after everybody I would love to see.

And they said that they have, when I talk to the mic, they said they had, they have video evidence to send the guys that they did penalize when they show, you know, like Jeb was complaining that he got a penalty. How do you see those guys and not like if the five is, how do you see them and not them? And I didn't see any of it.

But the answer I got in four words, three words was we missed it. How does that happen? I don't know. Well, there's video. Yeah, there's video. There's cameras. Now, what I will say is, you know, I don't know if it's a still, you know, just a stationary camera,

so you can't see what transpired before it, how, what the angles look like, obviously we haven't seen. But they have cameras in every corner there. So I don't know. It's hard to, like Brett says, though, if you put a line, those guys are going to cross it. You need to put something there that they got to go around, you know, something that's, uh, where, okay, well, maybe I shouldn't hit that. Right now it's, you know, and honestly, it's hard, it's hard going through. MSs in a line like that because you can't see, you know, you can't see anyway.

So half the time the guys that are probably cutting it aren't really even meaning to cut it. They just can't see. Yeah. You know, but if you put a curb there, there's better reference points, in my opinion, if you have a curb or something, you get a feel for where things are at more than just a line. Yeah. And like Brett said, I don't understand why is that the only section of the racetrack that we have limits? Like off of one, we're way out wide.

Off a 20, we're way out wide. You know, you can cut the track back there in 11. You know what I mean? like why do we only have limits in one section? If you put a small low curb there, right where the, where the turtles were or whatever that. Every time you hear TJ say curb today. A curb.

Curb. Yeah, if you put something small there where that if the guy runs over, okay, fine, but you know you can't go on the other side of it. You know, uh, what we're doing ain't working. It's all I'm saying. AJ Almondigger knocks leader Ross Chastain out of the way on the final lap. And Chastain comes back to knock Almondinger out of the way.

to win the cup race. Spot on, spot off, Freddie. Spot off. Son of a B.C. Picks. That's why I picked you. Son of a B. Listen, this is what it is.

You know, A.J. moved Ross. Ross. Ross wrecked AJ. You know, if that makes sense. What it means is we're in a bar and I walk up to you and I push you and instead of you pushing me back, you punch me in the face. Yeah. That's what it means. you know but if I mean and and it's as simple as Ross moved AJ I'm sorry AJ moved Ross to

second and Ross moved AJ to 33rd you know um he wrecked AJ to he wrecked AJ to 33rd um but listen you know when when Ross made this move you know this was his only option this is the only way he's winning this race is if he figures out a way to to technically wreck both of the guys in front of him because he was third in line going into that last seven of corners. But yeah, I mean, this is kind of what we got to expect because we've put all this emphasis on winning, you know, first career win for one, which is a big factor here. You know, you're in an all-star race is another perk of it.

Five bonus point, playoff points. And you're potentially in the playoffs. Now we've had six winners and six races. So there's a, there's a chance that we might, that might not lock you in per se, but, you know, right now he's in the playoffs because of that. And this is what we wanted when we went to this playoff system, win at all costs. winning is the most important thing and you know

this is not the first time this has happened with Ross and AJ I remember vividly spotting for AJ when Ross wrecked us at Daytona to win a race but you know it's just like I said I can understand why AJ's upset because he did one thing

and Ross did something you know multiplied by five probably um man I uh I think you know to reiterate what what Freddy said I think AJ pulled off a bump and run, and I think Ross pulled off a wreck and win, which is completely different to some degree. I said on my on my DBC pick last week that I was picking Ross Chastain because AJ Almondinger made him a better road course racer.

He mentored him when he was at Colleg Racing, and Ross is very talented. Ross has always driven cars on the edge. I mean, he's one of those guys you knew you were getting 100% every lap. and now in yesterday's situation, Casey, I don't think you see Ross Chastain even in this screenshot if it's not for AJ Amundinger. So I think probably the bad blood that's going to come from this is going to be, yes, you know,

Ross did wreck AJ trying to win a race when they were plate racing as teammates. And that's one thing. But I think this one is, man, it hurts even more because we trained him to beat our ass yesterday is kind of the way I think you got to look at it. So in terms of his decision, I say it on here all the time, and I got to say it again, win at all cost.

And that's what he did. And once again, we have a guy that's locked himself into the All-Star race. That's a big deal for sponsors, big deal for young teams. And Trackhouse is a young team, obviously, locked him into the playoff. You know, if you say, hey, Ross Jastain, he may not be locked in. There's got all these different winners. His last four finishes are third, second, second, first. There is something about this call.

that Ross Chastain's driving style fits very well. You know, if you're a golfer, Elliot would say this analogy all the time. If you're a golfer and you have a little bit of a draw on the ball, there are some courses you're going to play that play better for you because of the way you hit the ball. I think this driving style fits Ross Chastain's. Because look, I didn't expect these guys to be this fast. Even with the level playing field at the new car that we're talking about, I didn't expect Trackhouse to come out and be this fast.

Did I expect AJ? I'm going to be a fast at a road course? Absolutely. because that guy could drive a freaking John Deere tractor around there and run with him guys. But I think Ross Chastain has made, he's the hottest driver in the series over the last four races in terms of his performance.

I think he's a championship contender? No, not yet. But holy cow, like when it all costs, he did it. Yeah, I'm spot off for the wrecking part, but this is the, you know who you're racing and you know who's capable of doing that. And there are certain guys that'll do that

that are going to go a little extra further, that are going to go further than the rest. And to me, Ross is definitely one of them guys where if he's leading a race and you move him and he gets back to you, you're probably going to get it worse. He's one of them guys. And there's nothing wrong with that. AJ's probably going to race the heck out of him next time. He's around there.

But you know what? That's nothing new to Ross. He races hard anyway, you know? So it was his first win. I feel like he probably, it was a guy. going to be a good race. And I think AJ, I think AJ knew going when he did that, that it was probably going to come back harder than, than. If I'm a driver and I watch this whole thing play out, there's one thing I learned from this. And it is. If I'm going to move a guy, I'm going to move

him to the point that he can't get back to me. So what we've done is all the fans that grew up in the 80s and 90s, loving the bump and run, it makes it almost extinct. Because If you do the bump and run at a 20-turn road course and there's still seven turns left or whatever there was left, three, he's got a chance to run you back down and just kamikaze you. And that's exactly what he did. We talked about down here. I can't remember what show it was, but it was racetrack 101.

You know, short track 101 racing was don't move a guy unless you know he can't get to you. Don't move the guy with two to go. You know, obviously you're talking about a short track oval. Don't move the guy with two to go because then he's back there to get you back on a last lap. you better, if you can, if you're better than him, you wait to the last corner and you move him then where he's got no shot to get back to you. And then you win the race. AJ made the mistake of moving Ross with four turns left in the race. And Ross had the ability to just drive back into that last corner.

Obviously the timing adds up to it as well. If this is lap 15 or whatever, you know, middle of the race somewhere and AJ moves on, but Ross is going to wreck him. But when you're coming around there and there is a little bit more to it, if you're trying to get your first win and you've been leading. I mean, you feel like that guy just took a, win from you. But I'll tell you what through the, I mean, I was like watching him going in. I'm like, oh, and then I saw Bowman shoot down the inside and pass him both. I was like, that dude just find another gear through there? What did he do? Because Bowman passed him both in that corner. I don't know if AJ stumbled. Something happened to AJ in the middle of that

carousel because he had a good run and all of a sudden it was like they were all over him again. Alex drove by both. I'm like, holy cow, where did this guy come from? And Alex shot to the right and that's when and Ross coming in and really planted himself. on AJ's bumper. I was like, this is a 10 out of 10 for an exciting finish. You can't have a more exciting finish. There's two corners left.

We got 20 turns. We had two laps to go. We had 40 turns that these guys had to make. And here we are coming down to literally the last half a mile. And they're all over the top of each other. Like, you can't, I mean, we have had some amazing finishes and races in this cup car so far. Yeah, it's been some good rate.

And that was another, you know, amazing finish as well. So good job to those guys for getting up there and duking it out and having a race. You take, AJ obviously wins a race a day before, right? And then here he is, as a part-time driver in the Cup series, in position to win another Cup race. And I don't recall, I mean, going back to when Kislauski, you know, won for James Finch back in the day. Like obviously, AJ came in last year,

running a limited effort, won the indie race, the road course race. Like, it's hard to be a part-time guy and go out and compete for wins. That shows you how good that freaking guy. of road courses. He is the best road racer in the field. Yeah, AJ is going to make a difference, especially when it's a level playing field. That's where AJ is going to stand out even more. So that's, then he was doing it. Spot on, spot off. NASCAR waited to throw the yellow flag when Ricky Stenhouse Jr. crawled to a stop on the track, allowing other cars to pit before the caution. T.J.

This is tough. I was right in the position where we could have hit pit road. road, but he was still moving a little bit. And when I saw it on the TV screen, I actually thought he was going to make it back. When they showed it in turn one, I looked at the screen, I'm like, okay, he's still moving. They're not going to throw a caution unless he comes to a stop. And he was still moving. As soon as he came to a stop, I was like, uh, and we were just past pit road. So we kind of missed it a little bit there.

But, you know, I think, I mean, you can't throw it for a guy creeping around, in my opinion. And it's just timing, man. How many races have been flipped like that? you know that's just luck and timing and that's what happens at roadcours is that what's makes that's what makes them exciting as well because you get that timely caution how many time we're always looking for somebody stuck in the gravel and stuff right yeah and it's just sometimes you're at the right part of the track sometimes you're not it can cycle you to the front it can flip the whole field sometimes it can take the 12th place guy and put him in the lead

but that's just um that's how road course racing is so i don't how long did he sit still before they threw the caution do we not not long at all Yeah, he was rolling to a stop and you can kind of tell. Yeah, I mean, you know, to TJ's point, when the yellow comes out, pit road is immediately closed. And if you literally, if the yellow comes out and one second later, your front bumper crosses that pedestrian line, you're penalized for pitting under a closed pit road. So when teams see this, and this has always been this way, when you see that there may be a caution forthcoming because of something stalled, you're immediately planning to hit pit road. hopes that you make it before everybody else does. And the reason is because you can hit pit road, do a full pit stop, exit pit road, and have no concerns of being lap because of what we talked

about earlier. It's an eight to ten minute. And I realize that's a big window. Freaking caution lap under there, right? So then when the pits are open, all of the leaders come down pit road and they pit for tires. And everybody that pitted under the caution, then they advance. They leapfrog you, right? So it is a huge advantage to be on top of that. And this has always happened at road courses. And it's always going to happen at road courses when spotters and crew chiefs are watching on TV and they see something that may bring out a yellow. If they're in a window or they think tires are going to help them, they're going to pit every time. And I don't think that has anything to do with what NASCAR was doing with the yellow, especially if he didn't sit there alone.

Yeah, I think that, you know, to me, I was off the radio at this point. So I didn't hear much of this. I kind of just was watching it play out. But it seemed to me like everybody, just about everybody had the opportunity to pit. And it's just a gamble. You know, if the guys that the seven or eight guys I did see come down pit road, we're just gambling that they were going to throw the yellow. You know, like we talk about it. Our corner spotters will call in.

I got a guy over here just barely creep in or there's, you know, somebody stuck in the gravel over here. So then we relayed it to the crew chief. And it's on them to make the decision if they want to gamble and pit or not or, or, you know, which I don't think, you know, a lot of the guys didn't want to pit anyway. You know, like AJ and them, I think, we're committed to staying out. They didn't think that, you know, you're going to pit and start midpack and have a chance at winning anyway. We did see some of the guys. I think Bell was the first one on tires that got back to the front.

I think he ended up in the top five. I mean, it was guys, I think it was like 26, 30, like 30 or something, who were hitting because it was their last shot at anything. So, yeah. Lucky, too, and some of them restart things opened up right. So it's just, you know, and it's just, like we said, it's just a gamble. And as, you know, I don't think that there's anything unfair about it. you know, NASCAR just, like we said, they wait until the car stops rolling to throw the yellow. We would say, no, he's stuck because somebody could be caught and, you know, only have fourth gear or something and be rolling back.

But yeah, it's just a gamble whether or not you want to come down pit road there and take that chance that yellow is going to come out or not. And some of them guys don't have an eye, like, there's nothing to lose. You know, they're running 15th, 20th and they go, for hell with it. You know, I'm going to come down here and get tires. And if they don't throw the yellow, whatever, we got us 10 spots. But Tony Stewart questioned the call on the broadcast is why it seemed like a bigger deal. this like why are they waiting to throw the caution when they know he's eventually going to stop and then giving people the chance where all their cars already passed the pit entrance?

What if he takes off? I mean, what if he takes off and you throw the caution? You know what I mean? Then everyone's like, well, you should have waited. That's a no-win situation. Yeah, you have like, especially where he's at, you have quite a ways until anybody's going to get back to him. You know what I mean?

So you have time to sit there and say, all right, is he going to get rolling? We have two minutes, you know, two and a half minutes before anybody's going to catch him again. Let's see what happens here. And then, okay, he's not, you know, he's not rolling. I'm sure the yellow came out well before the leaders ever got back anywhere near where the 47 was sitting. So I don't think there's any danger there. I think that we would like to air, like we talked about how long the cautions are. You always want to err on not throwing the caution there.

If somebody spins or, you know, you're going to give him a minute to get rolling and hope that they can keep going instead of throwing a 10, 15 minute caution flag for, you know, for a guy that's really can keep going. So I don't know, I don't, I don't think it's, there's anything questionable about it. You threw it when he stopped. I'm what on the other else you can do. Do you throw it before he stops? Then if you're, you know what I mean? I think the right thing is when he comes to a stop, he's in a dangerous spot. That's when you throw it.

If he's still moving, he can possibly get back to pit road. You don't want to stop the race for no reason. Alex Bowman and Stuart Friesom die bomb leader, Kyle Busch with two to go in the truck race, all making contact and allowing Zane Smith to pass and win. Spot on, spot off, Freddie. spot off on KB's part. I thought he made the mistake of just leaving the door wide open. You know,

he took a big arc into that corner and just kind of invited them guys to take a shot at them. Yeah, and then came down, you know, like they weren't there. How bad do you think Alex Bowman? I mean, at the end of that race,

Bowman was better than Kyle, like towards, you know, before them, he was running him down. And when the yellow came out, I was like, I think Bowman's got him.

And I think that Alex Bowman would have loved nothing more in the world. then to go and beat Kyle Busch heads up in that truck race. I think he was going to as well. I think he was too. The hack is back. The hack is back. But yeah, I mean, for one thing, this truck series, these green white checkers are just a recipe for disaster because these guys don't give,

they don't care. They don't race. They don't race. They just run each other over. I mean, it's a joke. Like, I don't understand. Like, we talk about earlier, you know, you even look at the raw situation. and you talk about when is an appropriate time for like NASCAR to step in and maybe penalize somebody.

I don't like I hate judgment calls and I don't want to put any more judgment calls. So I'm fine with them not making calls on a situation like Ross. But when this series here where it's a feeder series and these kids need to learn, my God, do something because this is a joke. Like, especially you can do anything, man. I don't know what you can do. You can't do anything. Let them wreck. It's just like my goodness.

It's, it changes the integrity of the sport of auto racing when we allow bumper cars and these people to drive like idiot. It does. They lose their minds. Like, they just literally lose their minds. But it's because we let them. Yeah. Yeah. Well, that's...

There are no parameters. It's so hard to... And, you know, like, you're trying to teach Derek how to race some in that group. But, man, when you're in that group, you don't... There's... You're doing nothing but racing around people that have a lot of bad habits. And how do you... You know, when we follow someone out of the corner and she watches them, knock somebody out of the way,

well, that's how you're supposed to pass now. Like, that's not right. like Derek's been working with Josh Wise and Scott Speed part of the Chevy program and like his road racing yesterday was immensely improved from where it had been last year and he's had a good quiet year so far and that's why I'm like him you know and but to hit to that point and this is I don't know if this is what's going on around him or not

but it was whatever that race was it 42 laps something like that he ran 38 laps like he listened to every word Josh Wise said and then the last three laps he looked like he never met Josh Wise like we're bouncing off people. People are bouncing off us. And I'm like, just get back to what you've been doing all day long. It's hard, though, because soon as somebody, it's like the go car race, man, we're on the last lap.

Everything's all good. As soon as I hit you into that hair pin, what are you going to do and you get bad to me? Yeah, of course. I got a question. Is Josh Wise? He seems pretty wise. He's helping a lot of people. Oh, Brett.

Spot on and spot off. I think, I think it's awesome. You know, I, we're just fussing about that. almost backed into one. We were just fussing about the truck series and how these guys race. But at the end of the day, man, this is like, it's like Bowman Gray on NASCAR style. Like, it's awesome. I don't have a dog in the fight in the truck series.

And to have the veterans out there like Kyle and Alex and have them getting upset, I mean, Kyle, there's nothing better on television in NASCAR than to see Kyle Bush climb out of a car pissed off. The look on his face is so true. transparent that he is so mad that he could spit fire. His desire to win is probably higher than anybody else is out there. And there's no more of a piss poor loser than Kyle. AJ had a little bit of it. Did you, yeah?

Yeah. I don't know, Bob. Nope. Did you see Bowman's interview? Yeah. I got some advice. Put it on a t-shirt. Yeah.

Yeah, just, uh, watching the footage of Kyle and Alex, or Alex trying to talk to Kyle and Kyle like wouldn't even look at him. He's like, yeah. Kyle just did. He's got that water bottle, that long-ass straw. That's what you know he's pissed off. He's just sitting there molding the water bottle with a straw in his mouth, just not even looking.

What do you think he's thinking? What do you think is PR person's thinking? Oh, please don't talk. Please don't talk. Please don't talk. I don't know, Bob. Yep. Yeah.

AJ should have a shirt that just says, yep. And on the back says, I don't know, Bob. Spot on, spot off. Brad Kislauski's team find 100 owner and driver points 10 playoff points and crew chief Matt McCall is suspended for the next four races

for modifying three now for modifying a single source supplied part TJ I'm assuming you're spot on I don't know Bob I am spot off I don't really I'm going to wait for

everyone to play its cores but I think that's you know when you do have issues getting parts and things like that, I think there's, I think that's pretty stiff penalty, but I don't make the roles. I don't have anything to really do with any of this, but I'm going to let them guys handle it

and let the process play out. So, Brett, you mentioned, I think Brad mentioned he's going to appeal it. So what does this process look like? Well, I mean, that's the thing, man. Winning appeals is very tough. Very tough. We've only seen a couple of appeals,

reversed and one of them they didn't really have a choice because the series director had given someone the approval to do something of which they went and did and then the series director said you can't do that you're kicked out so that guy kind of had to eat crow but um the the likelihood of winning this appeal very very low um massive massive fine here not the money the points a hundred points is massive uh especially when you're at a company that's not performing at a high level in a week out. Do I think they're going to get there? Yes.

Brett Kassowski's a very talented race car driver. T.J. is obviously a very experienced, talented spotter. They've got the resources, but their cars aren't fast yet. We saw them really struggle at L.A. And now here we're getting ready to hit a ton of short tracks. Now Bristol's fast. Richmond's going to be fast. Martinsville will not be fast, but nonetheless, they're still, this is our three short tracks.

I don't put anything in L.A., though. I know we miss there and stuff. I feel pretty good about that. But as an observer, I'm like, now you've got to run of three tracks here where you could potentially struggle and you're at a hundred point deficit. So I think the thing that people need to focus on with this particular situation is not what did they do, right? Because it appears whatever they did NASCAR didn't like. Well, NASCAR doesn't like tires falling off cars. NASCAR lets you drill holes in things if you don't ask for permission, which I think Rouse Fenway Keselowski Racing was part of that deal where they were cheating up the wheels before.

everybody else was allowed to cheat up the wheels. And they didn't do anything to them then when I thought they should have been kicked out for that personally. Because if they're able to do it, then why wouldn't everybody able to do it, right? But the 100 point thing, Freddie, is what I say is big in this situation. Your crew chief, yeah, money, man, that sucks. Point. I mean, the crew chief's not that far away. He's still there calling a race.

But, you know, Brad's in a must-win situation now in my book. you know, he's too far back and too many guys, but he's over 100 points out already, and there's 20 guys between him and the cutoff line now. He's, I don't know, what is he like 34, 35th in points? I mean, there's Cody Ware, BJ McLeod, David Reagan's run two races. He's ahead of Bradden points right now.

That's how stiff this penalty is. You know, there's just, and if we see this trend continuing, there may not be a position in the playoffs for a guy that points his way in. You know, we're six winners in already now. You know, there might not be available spots for guys to point their way in anyway. So he's going to have to win a race, I think. But one of the things I found interesting about this was, you know, we've seen in the past, they, you know, take cars at the R&D Center all the time.

You know, every week almost it seems like we took two cars, these two cars to the R&D center. And it was almost this week. It became like a formality. They took Brad's last week, right? Was that where they found this issue? Captain Avi is sitting over here. I mean, well, no, you said it was during inspection.

You never mind. So they, you know, we, now they took, this is where they found this stuff as on RD Center. So now, you know, that becomes a little more interesting when they say, you know, we're taking cars back to the R&D Center. What could possibly come out of that? Because like I said, last year it seemed like a formality. It took three cars after a race and we never heard anything else about it. So that'll be interesting to see if that continues to, you know, to play a role in the season long point standings. But don't forget, people are short on inventory.

they're short on parts and we're short on time. And that west to west of west coast racing, when people were tearing up cars, I mean, like, holy cow, man, it just really paints you in a box. So I can't imagine that this was necessarily on purpose, but it doesn't matter. If you're cheating, you're cheating.

And obviously they saw something they didn't like. Like you said, if they have any shot of making up that point gap, I mean, you're going to have to run top 10, top five consistently every week now and load up on stage points. and we just haven't seen that speed out of that car yet. I mean, we haven't seen anybody really dominate like Denny and Kevin did a couple years ago. I mean, right now, Chastain is the dominant one.

Chastain, Reddick is up there all the time. Brisco's up there all the time. Guys you don't expect, but just because they're different guys, they're the ones that are up front. It seems like every one of these races right now. Tell me it didn't look like something was going to go down when you had Chase and Ross Racing for the lead.

I honestly thought that AJ was going to just get the win from the default. You know what I mean? I thought that they screwed up on the one restart. One of the things AJ was really mad about was Ross kept just taking him wider and wider off a turn one on the restarts. And Ross took him so wide the one time that Reddick passed both of them. And I was like, wow, that was a big mistake

because he was so focused on AJ. He just forgot all about Tyler Reddick. And they ended up getting back by Tyler. But I thought that he might have potentially given a race away right there. But yeah, these guys were ultra aggressive up there. Tyler, struggling again. Let figure in his car out. Good job, Tyler.

What happened to Tyler? I don't know, but he's fast every week still. Yeah, I mean, I thought he had a problem because he seemed like he was slow through that carousel. Yeah. And I thought he made out flat or something. There was some Daniel, Daniel drove a great race in the beginning. Fast as heck. I think somebody said he lost power steering.

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Reaction fiender starts now. Every fucking time, Derek is towards the front of the fucking field. Someone or something has got to fuck it up. What the fuck, Tyler? Can't fucking beat them, you got to fucking wreck them? It's fucking Texas. It ain't the fucking middle of winter in fucking Wisconsin. You don't need to put the fucking plow down.

Pick it up. Race them. What a load of fucking shit. Judging by that accent, I think that gentleman might be from Derek's hometown. I don't know who it was, but, yeah,

Ancram definitely just drove through the back of us. Somebody had, like, who was passing us, and Derek was kind of letting him go, and we were going to get in line behind him, and Ancram had different ideas, and he just kind of overdrove turn one by a couple car links and cleaned us out.

But, yep, that was the start of my downfall for that day. On his way out of Austin, Landon Castle might want to stop by Jerry World and try out for the punting position. Holy shit. Did he punt somebody? We might have gotten to Ross a little bit on a restart. We turned Ross around.

I can tell you is. Define a little bit. I was running about 25th when that happened. And obviously it's a big difference coming up that hill watching a guy running 25th versus watching the guy running second or third or wherever you were. And then I see this 92 sitting broadside. I'm like, oh,

we're getting ready to nail this guy and I knew at that point Daniel had already seen him and I just started clearing a clear eye clear one outside whatever because I knew I couldn't tell him anything and I about had a freaking heart attack because it was like right under where I was standing and you're not looking for that like you thought everybody

kind of went through it was kind of one of them deals where we were we tried to come up the middle and Ross kind of went out wide and was trying to get a better runoff of turn one and I don't know if he didn't know we were there it's kind of like we were trying to get all we could through the middle and going one way and he was trying to cross over the other way, and we got to back of him and turned him around.

Ironically, I just told Brandon Banesh, who was spot in front of the RCR cars, I said, you know what's so funny to me, man, watching this race from turn one for the first time ever for me, because I was like, these guys can't wreck at the top of this hill. Like they're getting up here and they're four wide, five wide, and they're knocking the crap at each other, and they cannot wreck. The very next restart, they wrecked. Oh, yeah, you're welcome.

There was a handful of cars spun around. you know when you have second and third spotters you don't really I don't feel comfortable sending a secondary guy out there to do a restart like that I mean if you don't get through that corner you could easily rip your nose off in that corner and to send that's chaos it's uncontrolled and a lot of times it's unavoidable but I don't want to put a guy up there that doesn't do it every week you know if you were to get an accident there you're going to be like I should have been there that's the way I look at anyway

Alright, let me start off by saying congratulations Ross Justain, but I got a bone to pick, man. Two things. One, take your helmet off next time, man. It needs to be your face with that watermelon, because now you just look like a crazy man throwing fruit. Secondly, look, I love Cota for what it is, but it ain't built for these stock cars. I slept the whole damn race. Every time I woke up, I got more bored and fell back asleep. Hell of a finish.

How do you say The same man Then it's a hell of a race That's kind of contradicting Well no I think that happens a lot I think it happens like With the gluck pole a lot

I think you have a race Where it's super super boring Super strong out And then we all kill each other In the last lap And I go oh it's a great race It was a good note It was a great finish

It was not a great race Like during the race There were points Where it would drag a little bit So what you're saying is When we do our pit road run We come round Or the one to go

It's all right boys 10-lath race. We're done after that. That's what I wish. Look, let's go. Dating back to 1988, there's nothing better on a Sunday afternoon than a nice nap during a cup race.

You watch the start, you catch you a little nap by accident, you wake up, you grab you a beer, and you watch the rest of it. It ain't that hard. Don't complain to me about a nap during a cup race. That's called America. Hashtag Ask Junior.

Hashtag Asper Jr. Man, Freddy, I don't know who this guy is racing up next to me, but he's tough. Uh, Bubba, that's the, that's your tire. That's, your, your, your, your tire just came off, buddy. You're not racing anyone. What the hell did he say? I think he was, he was, he's fake spotty. He was racing the car.

Oh. The tire. Yeah. I don't know. I didn't get that, but yeah, I did say your tire just fell off, so, I did a good job, I thought. You think he didn't know? Like, is that why he told him? Well, he didn't know.

So he thought he's like legit. He thought we broke a rear end down to backstretch. But I'm assuming that it was because the wheel. Yeah. I assume it was because the wheel might have been spinning. I don't know what was going on. But yeah. So he legit didn't know.

And then he's like, uh-oh. Something happened. I said, yeah, your wheel just fell off. Can somebody make me a giff of Bubba twerking? No. Is there any point penalty with that? No point penalty. Just crew chief and.

He wants to move up and press for somebody. There'll be a point penalty of he twirking. if he twirks. I want to race with you. Hey, AJ Almondinger and Alex Bowman. He didn't slam into you. He didn't bump you. He didn't nudge you. He rubbed you. And Rubbin's son

is racing. Ross Chastain. Congrats on the first win. You did what you had to do. Awesome for you, man. You deserve it. Now the question is, this car's been good for six weeks. But can it put on a show at Richmond to entertain Jason? If it can put on a show to entertain Jason at Richmond,

we know this car is good. Casey you rock, Freddy you rock. T.J. You rock. Brett, stop being so grumpy. Holla. Thanks. The difference is he did slam. Yeah, that wasn't really rubbing.

That was not a rub. AJ rubbed Ross. Ross is not going to rub AJ back. Fantastic. One of the dirtiest motherfuckers to race. AJ give him a bump and run, which, hey, if you're going to give a bump and run, you give it back.

I'm all for that. I'm all for retaliation. But when you go into the corner and literally jack the guys rear in off to where it causes him to wreck into Bowman, that's just dirty. And he won the race because he wrecked two guys that were faster than him

and outsmarted him on the racetrack. He wrecked him so he can win. Got the trophy. Kissed the girl. I am pretty sure that if putting that same scenario, he's going to do the exact same damn thing. I'm going to tell you if, if, you know, I'm leading and Brett

runs into me and gets by me, then Freddie gets by both of us and they're side by side, I'm going to wreck the shit out of both of them to win that race from the last quarter. I mean, I'm going to do what I have to do to win. That guy's paid to win that race. AJ said it's up to Ross if he can look himself in the mirror, and I can promise you he was smiling his ass off this morning when he looked in the mirror. I bet he was too.

Listen, man, the guy won. Are you going to victory lane if your guy wins that race like that and celebrate? Yeah. I mean, yeah. To leave an audio message 24-7, go to anchor.fm slash door bumper clear and click the message icon.

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with furniture, Casey. And I can taste beer again after three months. So congratulations. Thank you. That's not good news. Thank you. Yeah. Beer prices will probably go up to you to demand. I am, uh, I'm, I'm like 80% now on my taste buds. So I'm celebrating. Solid. Ready? I've beaten the shit of Brussels sprouts still then. Broccoli, brusper, callifier, all that stuff. I don't have anything that I can think of. At some point, Freddie's big ass couch is going to be nostalgic. I think it is at this point.

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What an idiot. Time for what an idiot. Brett. I'm not prepared for this. I got to think. I have to go back to what I said earlier in the show. Somebody somewhere up the ladder makes a decision. And I don't know if it's the racetrack.

I don't know if it's NASCAR. But whomever. Emotional damage. Whomever it is, you cannot put us back in the spot that you had a spotting turn one out of Dakota. You have got to move us. It is utterly ridiculous of where we're at. I mean, you guys are, they're not joking about a throttle getting hung. I believe it or not, because the way that the heel comes up at us, it looks like they could jump and land in the fence if a throttle hung, right? So from a just overall standpoint, whomever this person is, and I know

you're listening to the show, because everybody listens, go to the freaking spotter stand, stand up there and then watch the replays that Freddie posted on Twitter move us somewhere to give us an opportunity to be better at our jobs. That's all we ask for. We're not asking for, you know, freaking shrimp cocktails and bud lights during the race. We just want to be able to see. And the thing is, that's a mandatory location. Like, we have to be there, you know, or you have to adjust your roster to fit it. But that's the, that is the primary spotter location.

And I felt like the most useless guy of the three that we were doing yesterday. Correct. We were literally utilized on one lap, and that was the first lap after every restart. And that was the worst time to be able to see. So whoever had the spotter stand there and whoever built the scaffolding for that, you're an idiot. Oh, I got one. It's very easy. Bubba Wallace.

They did a track walk Saturday or Friday. This is good. It's Friday or Saturday. It was Friday. It was Friday before the truck breakfast. Who did a track walk? Everybody. They had it open.

That guys could go out and do a track walk. Did you wreck? Bubba said, I'm going to, I'm outsmart. Everybody, I'm going to go take my long board out there and show him how it's done. And 10 seconds later, he busted his ass all over to race track. I mean, when I got to the hauler for our meeting before the race yesterday, he was all bandaged up and he was a damn mess. So my one idiot this week goes to my very good friend Bubba Wallace.

Maybe just go ahead and walk the next time they have a track walk. What's it called? A track. Track walk. Oh, sorry. Should just walk the track, maybe? I got my question for tomorrow. It's, hey, Dale,

have you ever rode a skateboard around a racetrack? Hashtag ass junior. Longboard, Ax Jr. TJ. What number was Chris Wright? 44. Okay. Was there a 44?

Chris Wright used to be the crew chief, is it? No, no, no, no. So I'm going to go with, if you're a number 44 in the Xfinity or the truck, you're my idiot for the week. because in the truck race, you swapped in about four times.

And when we get to the senior race, the 44 proceeded to clean out two cars in the first lap. And whenever we went off into the carousel, we're on the left side, outside. I literally see, and my guy's given him plenty of room and a guy drives it in there. And you see him come off the curb, up the racetrack, and you see the gap, and you're like, oh, no, oh, no.

Yep, yep, we're wrecked. Um, you know, on lap one. So I didn't know if there was some sort of prize on lap one that you can win for that. Uh, but if there is, they, they definitely won it. But yeah, 44s. And the biff wasn't in the race this week, the biff. The biff. So I can't, I can say it.

He did run over Cody Ware at Atlanta and caused that big. Yeah, but that was started. Oh, I know. That was started before that. I thought the biff does a good job in that car, man. He doesn't do bad. I mean, it's still biffle. I mean, it's not like you forgot how to do it.

No. Yeah, he was good. I have to go on a rant. Oh, yeah. What is it? The show's already long enough. I know. I saw something last week where somebody called our sports entertainment.

Who called it? I think it was Marcus Smith. Oh, a buddy Marcus. And people that I, that don't know anything about racing, like don't know anything about racing, seen this, and are asking me if we're like the WWE, because that's the only other time I've ever heard of sports entertainment. they're like oh so is yours the outcome of your race

predetermined? I was like no of course it's not AJ knew AJ new Ross is going to hit him But you know the problem is people don't know And then they see something like that And they equated to the only other thing that I ever seen sports Entertainment related to was wrestling And I don't know why that

I don't know if that was just a poor choice of words Or what that was but you give off the wrong impression About our sport when you say something like that Like we're in the racing business I don't know. We're not in the, I mean, obviously you have to put on a show, but I want the race to be entertaining. The racing is what we're here for, not the entertainment.

So, you know, I don't know. I think that was just a poor choice of words. Well, it started. I mean, we had NASCAR executives saying that publicly. We're in the entertainment business was the words that they were using, you know, not that long ago. So to have a prominent track figure, say we're in a sports entertainment business, isn't surprising because they're kind of following the lead of what they'd heard. you're absolutely right.

We are in the racing business and we hope that you find our product entertaining. We're not spending collectively hundreds of millions of dollars around here to go out and entertain people. We're spending hundreds of millions of dollars to go out and activate brands and race. And we hope you find it entertaining. That's the way I look at it. I agree with you. It's not sports entertainment. Is the NFL sports entertainment?

No, it's a sport. and sometimes you find it entertaining and sometimes you find it boring. It's the way sports work. But yeah, I agree. Do you think the new car is doing well? I think it's doing amazing. I think it's doing great.

I mean, look how many winners we've had in the last few races. I've seen one boring race. Well, you know, one thing that I don't think we've touched on is, you know, we've seen Chase dominate road courses. Yeah, man. You know what, dude, I'm not buying the whole Chase is the greatest road racer because last year when he got in that JRM car at Watkins Glen or wherever he was, he ended up with a pretty decent finish.

But he didn't run well in stage one. He didn't run well in stage two. When he got in the MSA cars or whatever he got in for the 24-hour deal, like he went out there and put on a clinic. I appreciate Chase going and trying different things, but people acting like, oh, man, he's the best road racing in the field. No, he's not. He's not the best guy.

He's in the best car or was up until this year. Last year, the road courses were dominated by the, 24-9. I think this fuels the fire of everybody who was talking about that track attack deal or whatever, where they got the opportunity to test them Gen 6 cars whenever they wanted with different packages, obviously. And this is what was what, this is what, I don't know if we did a great job of conveying this last week when we're talking about the Lamont thing. But that's what everybody's concerned about. They're concerned not that Toyota didn't get a chance to have a car in there. They're concerned that they're going to get a free week of testing, you know, because like Danny's, I seen

Denny's reply to one thing was if there's one common part on that car versus, you know, the same as the next gen car and that car, that's a free testing opportunity for them for a week. That's not just a 24-hour race. They're down there practicing. You know, that's a week-long test session for them if they can run next-gen parts on that car. And that's what we talked about last year with that track attack deal. And like you just said, the give the, the Penn, the Hendrick cars were dominant last year in the road course races, all of them.

24, 9. And I mean, yesterday, where were they yesterday? You know what I mean? The 9 was there. the five was there, but they were mid-pack. Obviously, the 48 was in contention, but, you know, there was nowhere near the dominance we saw. They were good, but they were just went dominant.

Yeah, there was nowhere near where they were last year. Yeah. Last year, I mean, it was lights out. So Richmond, obviously, first legitimate short track for points of the year. Biggie Bob's? I foresee, and I've had some conversations with some guys in the know about this. Hey, what's up, DBC fans? If you haven't heard about Anchor, it's the easiest way to make a podcast.

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on how hard we saw hits happening at LA, these wrecks are going to be massive. They're going to be some of the hardest hits we've ever seen in short tracks. And I remember seeing Sterling Marlin going into three at Richmond and backing it in and I thought, man, he's just taking a massive hit

and he actually hurt his neck. Like I think this weekend is going to be fast. I think it's going to be competitive. And I think when we see cautions, they're going to be big. I just want to see the, it seems like we've gotten away

from having to control your tire wear with the right rear out of turn four and stuff. Like we kind of got away from that a little bit. I'm hoping it's back now. So where the guys are struggling, I want to see them struggling out of turn four. Like sliding. Like to me,

that's like, I want to see them wheeling it. I think that it's a lot of unknowns again for the first time, which is a good thing. I don't think it's a bad thing. Limited practice. And obviously, heck of a race.

I love Richmond the market. I love the racetrack. It's been boring. lately and I hope it comes out I think it's gonna be good I think it'd be good I mean I think with this car seeing how it's driven so far

I think the guys might have their hands full a little bit and I think it's gonna make for a really good race so if you're in the area or I want to see a good one come on out yeah and heading into Richmond let's make DBC picks because Brett you are already in the lead with two wins

I should have three but he screwed me the week before messing around with Bubba's twerk I know what Kyle was thinking when he was sitting there with his interview whenever he just you know he knew he was thinking about that

I picked him for the cup race that's what he was thinking I looked like he picked him for the cup race and I saw him backwards at least two or three times I'm saying he knew it was over I go first huh yes loser

I guess I will take Martin Truex Jr. DJ damn you're not going to use him for Martinsville no man did I already pick this guy son of a

dude um buy me a drink that's the man you son of a you son of a you know what I'm gonna go with

a guy that his you used to be like you were on it the past few weeks and now you're back to being slow I don't pick these heavy hitters we normally don't have two extra

people in here. So I'm going to go with Danny Hamlin. Wow. All I'm going to tell you is I went with Danny Hamlin at Phoenix and he struggled. He was on the struggle bus at Phoenix, especially considering it's Danny Hamlet of Phoenix. So good luck with your pick. I'm going to pick Joey Logano. I will pick Christopher Bell.

Man, y'all all four went big. I'm going to go with a guy that I think, yeah, he's going to lay up here. is going to have the run of his life. Mr. Corey Lejoy. We're stacking pennies, Corey. I like it. That we're stacking quarters this week. Let's go.

The whole strategy this game seems changed now that there's five people and it's very interesting. When Brett hears us take the heavy, he's like, oh, yeah. Corey don't cut. He literally text that one week said, I want Denny Hamlet or BJ McLeod.

Oh, wait. See how we're colluding this. No, I text you. Jason. No, he takes Jason. If I can't get the guy I wanted picking third, like I did that particular week, I was laying up, and I got Denny Hamlin and look at it killed me. He run like shit all day.

Yeah, I'm swinging for the fence here. So Danny, don't let me down. This is your chance to redeem yourself, Danny. We're going to find out if Toyota's any good right here. This is a Kyle Busch racetrack. This is a Martin Truex Jr. Racetrack. Obviously, Christopher Bell, tons of short track experience.

How about Danny? This is a Denny Hamlin racetrack. You just picked them, so he's not going to run away. If this is a Gibbs test right here, you know, I saw Kurt Busch yesterday struggling at that road course in the 45 car. If I win with Denny, he should come on the show. I mean, that's Bubba. This is a Toyota test for me. I want to see how they do.

And I'm sure Denny would love to come on the show with you. I'm sure he'd be happy if he won Richmond. He would Smith slap you said right here. Talk about his Hall of Fame resume. Yeah, let's talk about it. All right, go buy your Charlotte Experience Dirty Moment Media Ultimate Suite. We experience tickets right now in Dirttymone Media.com.

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