Door Bumper Clear - 246 - Richmond: Get Out of the Way

Episode Date: April 4, 2022

No empty chairs could be found in the Door Bumper Clear studio as the crew is back from this weekend’s racing from Richmond Raceway. Brett Griffin, T.J. Majors and Freddie Kraft discuss the first short track race of the season and if the Next-Gen car was able to improve the track’s product.To kick off Spot On, Spot Off, the trio discusses how Denny Hamlin’s comments about a certain animal lead to his first win of the season. Also, hear whether or not they think Toyota can continue to step up their game after a rough start to the season.The crew then questions why NASCAR waited to hand out a penalty to Kyle Busch’s team for breaking the rules 200 laps prior. They talk about why NASCAR missed it earlier and how it may have been brought to their attention. JGR also debuted a new pit stop choreography on Sunday. Learn the pros and cons of this new style of changing tires.After Kevin Harvick nearly caught race winner Hamlin in the final laps, Harvick expressed frustration with the spotter stand. Learn why having a difficult time maneuvering through lap traffic on Sunday around a teammate and another Ford may have cost him a win.What’s the state of jobs in NASCAR right now? Stewart Haas Racing’s Brian Murphy joins the show after he tweeted about the evolution of the NASCAR workforce in recent years. Learn why there’s more opportunity than ever to work in the sport.Ty Gibbs’ “bump and run” to win the Xfinity Series race on Saturday raises concerns about whether or not he will eventually be able to take what he dishes out. The gang then debates his career ark and how quickly he could rise to the Cup Series.Finally, the crew reacts to Kevin Harvick saying Keelan and other young go-kart racers want to pursue Formula One rather than NASCAR. They explain how NASCAR’s failure to attract a younger audience plays a role.Thank you to our presenting sponsor Offerpad and partner RacingUSA.com for making this show possible. Want more DBC? Check out and subscribe to the new DBC YouTube channel! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Door. What's up? You're listening to Door bumper clear, presented by Offuttap. I'm Freddie Craft, and we're back from Richmond and have a lot to share. We'll cover my boss, Danny Hamlin's late charge to the win. Kyle Busch's 400-lap-later penalty, new pit stop choreography, the current state of jobs in NASCAR with a special guest and much, much more. Let's roll, Jason.

Best on the standing, the best in the booths, stumbled the Monday to tell you the truth. Giving the thinnings and breaking the rules. Good call to the holler to bring it to you. Casey, you preface. Freddy, Freddy, you fat. TJ, you suck. Brett ain't so bad.

Jason's facing kind of plate in this racing. If someone don't crash and he's gonna go mad. Looking for Freddy, he's killing the bottle. Casey is making messers like a taut. The tweet something stupid then don't even bother. Brett's gonna block you like TJ is his spotter. See them online though FF in the chat. Tell Rick where to stay off the track.

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There you go. I like it. Hey, everybody. I'm T.J. Majors. Spiter the Sixth Cup car and the 68 Xfinity this weekend. Welcome back Casey again. I've been here like every week. I know you're on a hell of the streak right now. So keep it up. Thank you. I appreciate that. You can't miss any more.

You can't make two in a row without doing your first one. Brett Griffin, Spotter for Colleg Racing. Had a fun day on Saturday with Daniel Hemrick run six. yesterday we had a few ups and downs, but the lady gamecocks are national champions. I didn't know you pulled for the ladies. The lady cox, let's go. Love them to death.

Don Staley's the best basketball coach. And Freddie, let's get this started before we get off on the ring. We've been on a rant all morning already. I don't know. I'm glad this show's not a lot. What's up, Freddie Craft, spotter for Bubba Wallace and Landon Castle this week. Yeah, fairly uneventful.

for me kind of not scared of me in practice i'll tell you that much scared of ourselves that's why we spun out we almost ran ricky over had a i saw you diving a three and i'm like oh god what's been in front of you i guess you know we were catching ricky and he was struggling a little bit and rickie was letting us go but never pointed like you know these guys point to each other like hey you know i'm gonna give you the bottom here and bubba said you know rickie just checked up early in the three to let us go and we were we almost ran up his ass so bubba just you know jumped on the brakes and hooked the thing to the left to avoid rick it stopped quick though i'll tell you that it was good it was fine But, yeah, it was, that was eventful for practice.

And then I'd like to say me and, uh, me and herm successfully didn't screw up anything yesterday, which was good. Good work. I liked it so much. I got up and put matching gray jacket and shorts again on today. I liked, you know, I liked the cars looking just like each other. So went for that look again. What did you guys think about when they released those paint schemes? And it's like, oh, perfect.

Our cars are identical. I thought it was a joke. I thought a couple days early for April fools. Yeah, I mean, which they did. say something to us about it, but I didn't really care because Martinsville or Richmond, I'd probably fine with it. But I'm like, I'm going to go ahead and you send that thing

to Pocono or a plate track or something? Good luck. Yeah. Well, before we keep going, we should probably introduce Jason since I feel like we failed that every week. Jason Shill's producer, driver of the 35 sprint car, I think it was. Yeah, over the weekend. Great job to see again.

It went great. Had a really good run and really enjoyable. What did I miss? You didn't see. see this? Jason made his debut at Port Royal. Port Royal. He's actually breaking in news potentially going to be in Chad's micro this week at Millbridge.

So there's some... He won't even play me in basketball. No, there was a tweet. Somebody tweeted... I know. Yeah. Jason Schultz was making his debut. I was like, oh, way to go, Jason.

Which they did. Jason and that kid over there went and got his breakfast this morning. You know, for Bojangles. So Ben and I made a tuning graphic on her drive to the bar on Saturday night. I'm like, this would be funny. Really confused people. Because some people believed that I was actually racing. They were tweeting us updates.

Oh, there was somebody, Chris Blackmore, who interacts with us a lot. He's like, he did a good job. He ran 11. I'm like, God damn, Chris. Was Kevin at the track this weekend? Yeah, he was there. I looked for him. I didn't see him.

He was in the infield. I saw him right behind the two-hauler, I think it was, when I was getting ready to head up. Shame. Yeah. Kevin's awesome. Kevin's another one. He will enter, he's everywhere.

He'll retweet our show every week. He's on Serious every week. talking to everybody. All the reason I ask is he's got Virginia in his name, I think. Yeah, he's going, he's coming to the 600. I don't know that he's coming to the experience, but he's coming to the 600. Probably one of our most dedicated listeners. Well, Denny Hamlin is officially back and redeemed himself after a rough season, starts the season with a win.

Freddie, are you happy? What a great thing. I mean, really? What a great. Seriously. I had to start with him. I wish my bow. bonuses were tied to Denny.

But I'm just happy to keep my job. So what a great job by the best one ever, apparently. No, he's great. Listen, Pitt strategy played out in his favor. I was very confused at why the 19 switched their strategy because I think they would have probably won the race if they had stayed on the same store. They were two-stop at the second stage and they won the second stage, I believe, right?

And then for some reason, they switched back to a one-stop there in the last stage and got beat. They were ahead of Danny and it was going to come down to them in the 20 or the 24, I felt like. And for some reason, they decided to make a switch and switch strategies and it cost them. But I thought it was awesome the way the race played out at the end. You know, two guys on one strategy, a couple other guys on a different strategy coming

through the field and you're kind of looking up there saying, oh, we're getting closer. You know, obviously we had the timing and scoring in front of us so we could see how much faster they are. But it's all a matter of traffic and whether or not they were going to get there. And they hawked them down pretty quick. Yeah, Chris Gabe Hart, Rodney Childers, are the two smartest guys in the garage yesterday. Or lucky, in my opinion.

I mean, I think they had a plan, you know, and I think they stuck to it. But I don't think you won that race. You definitely don't win that race without Gabe Hart calling the race that he did. Obviously, big win for Denny. He's in his hometown. Is Denny locked in the playoff now? I mean, he's 20th and then points. Is that going to be?

Is that win going to be enough? I think he's got to stay hot and keep climbing. He'll be all right. I mean, those guys 15th, 16th, then points. I don't think they're going to be okay the way this is trending. No, I mean, we're seven for seven now. Seven for seven. Oh, I mean, we're, I remember what that was like.

And we're going to Martinsville. Yeah, we're going to Martinsville. We still got two plate races, road courses. You know, it's, it's going to be a dirt race. A dirt race. We talked about last year we were going to get close. And I think we ended up with what, like 13 winners or something like that last year. And there's a lot of guys this year that have already won that did not win last year.

So it's going to be the days of. if you're locked in a playoffs with a win, could be in question. I remember what 15 and 16th was like. Last week. A few weeks ago. A few weeks ago. Last Tuesday was about the last day.

That's what I meant. I mean, if you were in gray again, is there a... Who gave T.J. a drink. It's illegal. I got 30 points yet. Take it away.

Take T.J.'s water away. He's not a top 30. Oh, yeah. Shut up, Jason. Mr. Give Your Own role in the company. Yeah, it's a hell of. of a move by them guys. I mean, we were running around them.

We were literally running around Danny and great pick calls there. Got up there. It was really surprised Martin switched theirs up. And you picked Denny and DBC picks. You should be super happy. Your jinx is over. I got to thank Danny for clearing that up now. Maybe this is a start of something.

You even said you would personally invite him on the show if he won. I thought that. I thought it was lined up. I'm sorry, you guys. I mean, I thought Freddie or Brett was going to get him on here. Are you free next Monday? I was texting with him last night and this morning because our buddy Chris Lambert, he's a huge Duke fan. And so Freddie and I took him to Hooters to watch the game. I tried to get Herm to go. He had one Jack and Coke and they won the race. So I text

him and Denny and I was like, hey, I'm going to have to take your buddy Lambert out for a Jack and Coke every night before the race. It seems that was your good luck charm. But yeah. I feel like my DBC picks has been like the Madden cover, you know, the athlete they put on there gets hurt the next year. But Denny is, he broke that now. So speaking of the Duke game, did you guys see where Eric Church completely canceled his concert to go to the Duke, North Carolina game? How do you all feel about that? You know what that is? What is that? You said that before. You money. I think that's fucking everybody, money. So what it, like, okay, I don't know, like, how much he makes a show. Over a million bucks.

Do you know this personally? Definitely have a few money at that point. I have frizz in the country music industry. I know Derek Church's ego is too big to even let people open for him. He plays his own concert for three hours. Did he think that he's going to get away with it or people would think? He is getting away. I mean, he just told you what he thought.

He had to refunded the tickets and he made up for it. Like I just said, I just told you what he thought. He doesn't give a. He doesn't care. I just think it's odd because this is literally the equivalent to NASCAR. saying, hey, we're big, we're big college basketball fans. We're going to cancel the race this weekend so we can all go watch. He canceled a major event that people bought tickets to for maybe anniversaries for Christmas.

You got non-refundable flights going on. Damn, man. You got hotel rooms. You got all these things. And right before your show, you go, hey, I ain't going. That's pretty good. Where was it at? It was in Texas.

Like a stadium? I don't know exactly which venue. But regardless, you pull the plug. I'm just saying it's a lot of people. And he literally wrote this letter that basically said, I'm going to be selfish and I'm going to go to this game of my family. And I was like, wow. That's rough.

Yeah. We'll see how it affects him. Yeah. That could be the end of his career. No. Could be? I doubt it. No.

Could be? I doubt it. You never know, man. I'm going to go in saying, there's going to be some backlash, but I don't know if it's going to be just career. I mean, damn, those people had to be excited. That was going to be such a good time. He's like a, he's a local guy to here.

Those people were going to have such a good time, man. All them guys from Hickory are a bunch of ass. This is Jared. Gentleman Ned Jarrett's a real ass. I didn't say all. Can you believe? Yeah. General Jed is the only one that's nice out of there.

Those guys are so mean up there. I mean, you got Bark doll, Jason. Barnwell. Barkall's from the mountain somewhere. That's up there. So does Spiders either come from a Long Island or Hickory? Pretty much. Or Pagelan.

Yeah. One from Pagel. Yeah. Believe it around. Speaking of shows, when we talk about Eric Church, I keep seeing... Chew. Chew shows. I keep seeing a lot, a lot, a lot of negative feedback about these Fox pre-race shows.

And I have to ask these guys like, what? I mean, what's going on with these things? He just axed these guys. He killed them. You asked or acts. Acts both. He acts somebody. It seems as they are going the more entertainment route with the pre-race show versus actually

providing race analysis and I haven't watched one in a month because I've seen what people are saying on Twitter. I'm like it's not worth watching and Jeff Gluck just tweets out these screenshots of like characters on the screen like they had a watermelon seed on yesterday and you know that's probably something to do with Ross but like why are they talking about Ross in that sense for when they could be talking about how impressive his career has been to get to this point to win the race like that should be the storyline versus making a joke of watermelon about it which they could have talked about that stuff too I didn't watch but I assume it's not the best product I've seen multiple times people were just, you know,

there was one where two guys were dressed up like Chase and Kyle Larson and I don't know. There's been a bunch karaoke singing or something last year. I have not watched a pre-race show. Why not? What are you doing? I'm not watching the pre-race show. Well, based off of what I saw in Atlanta,

just sitting in a sweet drinking. No, I mean, I'm talking like on TV. Like, I don't go back and watch the pre-race shows. So I don't, is it like similar to Formula One or what? I think it's the opposite formula. the opposite. Yeah. Like they're not,

there's, I thought Formula One is actually okay. That's what they should model after. And I think that we see a lot of that, like a lot of, a lot of the NASCAR backlash I keep reading about the broadcast is like you treat your fans like idiots. Like, and I know there's an aspect of it where you have to inform the fan, but it seems like they, they take it to a level where it's like nobody's ever watched the race before,

where they have to explain everything. You know, and I think Formula One does a really good job of, of kind of mixing it to where you've explained it. and now you're hoping the fan that's been watching has retained it, and you don't have to break it down in the detail as much. But I see a lot of that on Twitter where people are like, you know, we've been watching for 20 years.

I don't need to know what a lug nut is, you know, or whatever. And that's just, you know. Yeah. But, you know, it just feels like it's a spoiler. Yeah. Like, yeah. You know, so. I think the key to them having a good broadcast is obviously Mike Joy is awesome at his job.

Clint Boyer, who I know very well, is not a guy who is going to spend all week preparing. He's going to be on the fly, off the cuff, tell you what he thinks. But he's good at it. And if you need him to go like in depth into something that requires preparation, he's probably not your guy. So that third guy, you got to have like a Larry Mack who is going to do an extensive amount of research and everything that he speaks to is hard, man. They're not going to do what TJ just did and said, hey, what's the show like? Because that's what we got with Danica Patrick. She was up there asking questions when she's supposed to be part of the storytelling process. So, I thought it was awesome yesterday that they had a crew chief in the booth because that was a crew chief's race.

Now, I also have a problem with Chad Knauss in the booth because he's on Hendricks payroll. And I just see a huge conflict of interest with Tony Stewart being in the booth. He owns a freaking race team. Four cars out there competing. Same thing with Jeff Gordon. I don't know why we can't get the right personalities plugged in that don't have a conflict of interest. Because it's a gigantic conflict of interest. You're going to have anybody in the industry is going to have a conflict of interest unless you have like a Steve O'Donnell who.

What is Clint Boyer's conflict of interest? Well, right now, nothing. But at the same time, Chad was great yesterday because, for instance, Kurt's challenges with his car. Like he was able to explain what most fans would not understand when it came to what he was going on in the car. If a Hendrick driver or Hendrick person had royally screwed up, he would most likely not have called them out and went into depth on a television. because he is trying to sell his company. But at the same time, you have two other people who will. There is no but.

You have to have a personality up there that doesn't have an interest in the race. And it's not that hard. There's enough crew chiefs out there that you could, you could put, I mean, you could pull the guy out of a race team and pay him to sit at home during the week and study and then talk about it on TV. We shouldn't have all these conflicts. I understand what you're saying, but I don't think yesterday was really, it became an issue. I understand where it could be, but I think he did a great job. Well, I think we saw it last year with Jeff, even before he was a fit,

I mean, he was always been part of Hendrick Motorsports, obviously. But, you know, before he took this official role and went back there, you know, we saw him a lot of times. There was some questionable calls where he did not, you know, we felt like the Hendrick car was at fault and he. Homer Simpson back into that bush. He tried to, you know, pass the blame on something else. And that's exactly what Chad Canals would have had to do yesterday,

because guess where his bread and butter's at? It's not Fox. You go get a guy like Cole Pern. Casey, that's who you go get. There's a lot of guys you can go get that will do a phenomenal job for you. Tell the story, present the facts. I'm obviously not privy to the pre-race show on race day either. I think that Fox has an incredible product and they've got a lot of money invested in the sport.

And I don't know who's leading their creative charge right now. But if it's not appealing to Jason, which we're all after the Jason's of the world, right? We want that younger demographic. How do we get a younger? I mean, Jovie said to me, this is a bad statement. I'm going to say that up front. She said to me the day after the Daytona 500, she came home from school. She said, Dad, your sport's going to die.

And I said, what do you mean it's going to die? She's in a sports marketing class at Lake Norman High School right here in Morseville. And the freaking professor, teacher, said, how many kids watched the Daytona 500? And there were three kids out of 35 that said they watched. And so that was alarming to her. So we do have to go after that younger crowd. How do we do it? I don't know how we do it.

I personally think you go call. God to survive. I think you call up freaking meeting with a bunch of 18-year-olds and you ask them how we do it. And then that's the way you go down the road. Because a 47-year-old male can't tell you how we're going to attract an 18-year-old demographic to the sport. But anyway, Jason, that's what I think they're going after is that younger crowd. But if they're not appealing to you, how are you now? 24?

Yeah. Gosh, you're getting old. 24 years old and if we can't appeal to you, I don't think we're going to jump the gap to go even younger. And F1's doing the phenomenal job of that right now, attracting the core audience that NASCAR wants in America. I'll tell you what else F1 has hit on. And it's weird that nobody else has hit on this.

Their numbers seem to be growing this year by starting at 1 o'clock in the afternoon. Crazy. Weird. It's 1 a.m. this week, but. Well, the last two weeks, right? Their numbers have been up and they were 1 o'clock races here. I do think, you know, I'm still, I'm watching that Drive to Survive again.

And I think like we're getting ideas from a marketing standpoint of things we can be implementing. But then also when you do watch those races, it's like you feel like you know those people because you've seen them on the back. And I thought they did a great job with our documentary there, Bubba's race. And I think that would be even better for NASCAR if they could find a way to do that with multiple teams. I don't know if you have to do every team kind of like Formula One, you know, Drive to Survive does. but you could bounce around for three to four different teams and do the same thing. I think you bounce around and get perspective from a bunch of people. Yeah.

And, you know, you drive to survive did. I mean, they got a little bit of hot water for creating drama a little bit. But, you know, that gets, it's interesting. You got to be careful these TV products do, not to be cheesy. Right? Yeah. Nobody wants cheesy. The best, all the feedback that I got.

from the Netflix show from Bubba about Bubba was, you know, how cool it was to see that Danny was in the team meeting with us. You know, it was no manufactured anything like where it wasn't the interviews, you know, they cut them interviews the whole time. But it was like the actual meetings or Bobba talking to wheels, you know, at the pit box about, you know, what the practice went. Like all the natural stuff that people want to see behind the scenes is that they don't ever see. They'll never see it. You know what I mean? And that was like just the biggest one I got was, you know, holy cow, Denny really sits in on your meeting. I'm like, yeah, he's there every week.

know, like, that's, you know, that's the stuff people want to see is how involved these guys are, kind of how they break the week down, how they talk to each other. Like, there's a point in that show where Denny's just like, listen, this is not acceptable. Like, what we're doing right now is unacceptable. We have to be better than that, you know, and he's going our asses in a meeting right there. And that's what, you know, that's what people want to see. They don't want to see, you know, a manufactured fight between two teammates that really doesn't exist in at McLaren or wherever it was in Drive to Survive. You know, they want to see the real that's going on behind the scenes.

I mean, you, we've all been in the sport. for years, even when we take people to the racetrack to see what they get to experience of the behind the scenes of how it works, like even like unloading a hauler. I mean, those are all interesting things that I feel like Formula One has done a great job of showcasing even on their social channels. So I think for NASCAR, can you imagine what product they could create just from what currently exists? I mean, the look on people's face when you give them a hauler tour and then, well, I mean, it doesn't happen nowadays, but you give them a hauler tour and you show them that there's a car above their head.

You know what I mean? You slide that thing open and they're like, holy cow. We've looked in it up top of the trailer a million times and it's just like, when you pop that door open and somebody looks up like, holy cow, there's another car up there. You know, it's pretty.

There used to be. Yeah. You know, like Freddie says, a look on their faces and stuff. There's a lot of opportunity there for. That's the favorite. The best part of my job is being able to see that. So have it on TV would be incredible.

How do you get up there? There's no way in hell you can see up there. What? Get a ladder. She got a ladder. I have to do it. all the time. That's where all our stuff is on top of the dollar. Two points. Oh yeah.

There's a car way up there. Yeah. All right. Well, uh, how many Bo Jinkles Biscuits did you guys have this morning? Because I had one cage and fillet and I had two bow rounds. Usually by the time I get here because I'm about Casey late nowadays. You live the closest and you're the last one here. And I've been like first. Yeah, but I'm not coming from my house. Oh, you're not. Well, whose house you come? I don't know if there's a huge couch.

Oh, no. Oh, no. Oh, my. No, no, no, no. Jason, cut that out. I mean, geez, TJ. On the way, you know, when I leave my... Rule number three is never telling yourself. About to do some sketchy shit, dude, I hope I get away with it. Oh, okay, we better move on.

Yeah, we need to keep going. There's a big ass couch and I fell asleep on this. Showed up late. All right. Some dude was mowing a lawn out. side. I think we need to move on and hear more about our presenting sponsor OfferPad before this gets way too out of the pants.

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When I asked where you heard about Offerpad, select the NASCAR option so they know we sent you. Spot on, spot off. It goes like this. Spot on means you agree. I'm spot on. Are you joking me? He's lost his mind. Oh, and by the way, no one ever seems to agree.

and then spot off means you disagree. Spot off. Here we fucking go. This is the dumbest thing I've ever heard. But if you're T.J. Um, uh, uh, there's only one correct answer. I don't know. It's time for spot on, spot off.

First topic, Denny Hamlin wins after saying, if you want to win the Kentucky Derby, you can't have a three-legged, donkey for your race. Spot on, spot off, Freddie. Denny's great. Do donkeys race in the Kentucky Derby? I've never seen a donkey

in the Kentucky Derby. I've never seen a three-legged donkey or horse in the Kentucky Derby. So I guess he's right. You can't win it without with one of those. I guess his donkey grew a fourth leg yesterday or just Gabe Hart was that good on the pitch strategy. But obviously there's been no secret. Toyota's been struggling a little bit this year. So I'm assuming that's what he has been referring to.

and having to turn it around, and they turned it around yesterday. All four of the Gibbs cars were really good, I felt like. Obviously, we'll talk about Kyle's penalty here in a minute, but, you know, the 20 was up front leading laps, the 19 won a stage, the 11 won the race. The 18 was there, top 10 all race. So, you know, they've obviously found something there and kind of turned a corner, and hopefully we can continue to build off that, especially all these short tracks coming up. Yeah, yeah, I'm spot on for what he said leading into the weekend.

I made the comment last week that I thought this was a big 10. for JGR and to really see where they're at. I looked up and to Freddie's point, they were second, third, and fourth with 60 plus laps to go. So obviously in contention to go out and win the race. I also am spot off for the way Freddie says donkey. It's donkey. It's a donkey.

What? What? T.J. Donkey. He sounds like, he sounds like Shrek. He sounds exactly like Shrek. Donkey. Donkey.

Jason, how do I say, how should you say donkey? You're the donkey. I don't know. That's funny. He is the donkey. There might be a new donkey. What?

You're good for you? I am, I'm, you know, Danny pulled me, got me a win in the, in the DBC pick,

so I got to go spot on. I'm spot off because he didn't show up this morning. Kind of sucks. What you saw off here? Were you to his house trying to give him to come on? I was beating on his door.

Come on, man. Deliver. Which door? Got like 18 doors at that house. Just throw a rock at the back of him. He's here. See that he's here. The FedEx truck literally just drove by our door.

I wish we had the cameras facing that way. The timing could not have been any better. Danny delivers. See that? Perfect. Yeah, you know, I don't know if he straight up had the speed to win in the middle stages there, but they did what they had to do to make some good pick calls.

and he obviously upheld his part of the track. That's one of his better tracks too. So the bad part about it is I can't pick him again this week because we're going to this next bet. You know, it's probably one of his best tracks still. So momentum, momentum carries over. And I think that showed with Ross this week too. Ross fast and qualifying, fast beginning part of the race.

Got into an arm wrestling competition there a couple times and kind of he fell back a little bit, but now spot on for them guys for getting up there and making the calls to get the win. Kyle Busch is black flagged with 52 laps to go

when the team put a piece of tape on the grill instead of the brake duct 200 laps before. T.J. Spot on. I mean, it was pretty it was pretty obvious that it was up there. Not that obvious.

If it took 222 laps to see it. I thought they put it on it. It was also bright green. I thought they put it on under a pit stop. 222 laps later they got black flag. They did on lap 126. That's when they did it. And then 200 plus laps later, they got a penalty.

How do you feel about that time lapse? Is that, is that all right? I mean, he's running illegal for 200 laps. It's fucking ridiculous is what it is. You still can't. It changed the whole outcome of the race that he got to run illegally for 200 laps. I think that they also talked about that they consider taking it off, but then they're like, well, we're not going to get black flagged.

So we'll just keep it on because of the delay. So another. Well, I mean, you're talking about you're taking it off. It sounds easy enough, right? But when you're talking about a nine second pit stop like they did have yesterday, it's tens of a second for a guy to hang a tire and then go up there and pull that tape off and that could be the difference in position. So if you've gone 200 laps without getting a penalty, why would you,

ever think you're going to get one and there's no reason to take it off. There's got to be a rat that saw this from pit road or saw this on television and brought it to NASCAR's attention 200 laps later. And obviously when the official called it in or however NASCAR was alerted, I don't think NASCAR all of a sudden woke up and went, oh, what's that bright piece of green tape on the front of that car? That's not supposed to be there. So I personally think there's a rat, and I think that somebody raised their hand and went and tattlettold.

You? And no, it wasn't me. The last thing I'm looking at is tape. But I think somebody went and tattletailed on the 018 ball and they got in trouble. But the 200 laps of running illegally is what I'm most frustrated about. That's what I'm most frustrated about. I don't understand. So listen, they put out a statement through Bob last night I saw where they took them 222 laps because they were doing their due diligence.

and then I saw a quote in Jordan's, Bianchi's article this morning that said that the answer they gave Ben, be sure the cruci of the 18, was that they were checking to make sure that it was actually stuck on during the pit stop and not a piece of tape that got stuck to the grill on the racetrack. And what they need to do, I don't know if they had this ability, they should just put a camera in every pit box

so that they can see whether or not guys stuck the tape on because we actually have that. And I don't think it takes an hour and a half. to look at the video and see if you stuck a piece of tape on or if it fell off. Tell us how you're looking. Well, it's just ridiculous. And it's ridiculous from a lot of fronts. We're now racing against a quote unquote illegal car.

How much it actually benefited them, I don't think, at all. But also for Kyle Bush's sake, The hell's wrong with you? It's 100 or 22 laps of, they could have changed their entire strategy. If they get a penalty, okay, you pit at 126, you get the tape on there. Hey, no, no good. you know, even if it's 10, 20 laps. We're looking at it.

We're going to make sure it's stuck on there from the pit stop, whatever. You give him a penalty by lap 150. He's got 250 laps to make this up through strategy, through whatever. Now you throw it out there on our last pit stop with 50 to go. Oh, by the way, you got a pit now. So now it's like, what in the hell is going on here? It's just, it's from all fronts. It's a joke.

I don't understand. Literally, you're talking about 222 laps is essentially an hour and a half, maybe more of actual time, you know, what, what were you doing for an hour and a half? 100% I agree with Brett that somebody from pit road sent a text to the tower saying or, you know, sends a message to the tower through their pit official that, hey, did you look at the front of the 18 car? And oh yeah, look at that. Penalty 318. You know, I don't understand how you can say you were taking an hour and I have to do due diligence

on something that you could easily see from a pit road camera that we have now in every pit box to judge all these pit road penalties. So I don't buy it. I don't agree with it. It's just something that can't happen. Brett, you alluded to this a little bit earlier too, but with their choreography, the new choreography, you feel like that completely impacted

and completely changed. Oh, I think it changes a sport a ton. I mean, obviously it's faster, but what I'm most impressed about, and I tweeted this yesterday, the rear tire changer has the heart job. I hate to say the hardest hardest, because the jackman jumps first and he can get run over.

And all the choreography of the pit stop is based off the jackman, right? He's like the 5, 6, 7, 8 guy if you're dancer. You know what I mean? Now we're going to start a routine. But if I'm the tire changer and I'm the rear tire changer, I'm literally chasing the car and I'm diving onto

the concrete on my knees. Physically, it's tough on you. Performance-wise, it's the toughest part of the pit stop, in my opinion. So now the way those two changers are jumping in front of the car, they're both like two front changers. The car is coming to them versus them having to chase the car. So I think that's a big advantage.

And I think physically it saves a lot on their bodies because these guys get beat up. I mean, by the time these, if you're a long-term tire changer, by the time you hit 35, 40 years old, you're beat all to hell. I don't know. I don't know one that's not. I assume we're just going to go to the next topic since, you know, listen, JGR fought for this. It wasn't allowed. They kind of fought to get it approved. They got approved.

They got approved for this week was the first week. They used it. And they turned the fastest four tire pit stop in history of NASCAR. So guess what every pit crew in America is practicing. This morning, I would assume, you know, that the proof is in the pudding right there. And we talk about 10th of a second is positions on pit road, especially under a yellow flag. So, you know, it'll be interesting to see how it goes forward. Going into it, I had talked to some of my guys.

namely Ryan Flores, a buddy of mine from, you know, he tire changeer at Penske, and they, they knew under perfect conditions and pit stop practice, it was, you know, three to five tenths faster than what, you know,

the traditional pit stop was, but it had been unproven in race scenario. And there's a lot of factors that go into that, you know, cars coming around, you know, the weather, anything could be different.

And, but they went out and proved that it was better. So, you know, it'll be interesting to see going forward. My only concern with it when I watched the video was, will that front hose get run over by the guy pitting in front of that car? Because they swing that front hose out so wide that the guy can get around the front of the car to the right rear tire

that it's essentially if we go to Martinsville this week. Those are tight pit boxes. You know, there's potential where that car, well that guy's changing that tire, a car could come in hit that hose and rip the gun out of his hand or, you know, or just alter the pit stop in some way. So it'll be interesting to see, especially early this week when there's a lot of cars in lead lap, if we have a yellow flag pit stop, how that plays out if they even still do it. My favorite part of this, TJ, is we're all being put every single year in a tighter and tighter and tighter box.

JGR went out and spent millions of dollars on developing a pit gun that would be faster than everybody else's pit gun. And when they debuted it, holy cow, they were fast. Here again, they've spent a bunch of money because we're talking a lot of different guys training, a lot of cameras, a lot of technology, a lot of meetings to change the pit stop. do you think NASCAR should be trying to limit how teams can spend their money? No, I don't think on this subject I don't because they're not doing anything different. They're just going to set the bar for everyone's going to start doing it. I'm really curious this week at Martinsville how

to me it's a more risky pit stop for tight stuff. for tight stalls. You go to somewhere with bigger stalls and Martinsville is kind of spread out a little... Big difference between India and Martin's. Well, like Richmond's pretty decent too, but Martinsville, man, that place is tight.

Yeah. And I think, you know, who knows? I think there's, like you said, there's a chance the hose gets run over. Yep. Buy a car coming out. It's approved by NASCAR to do this pit stop now. Do you think that NASCAR should have approved this pit stop

and giving everybody 30 days? notice to be able to implement it versus it's approved Gibbs is doing it I think uh I don't know they did they did like around Daytona they said they were going to approve it but it wasn't going to be till like after so they gave they gave when I think they were you I think they were yeah I think it's they knew yeah I think that oh that's awesome that's good why didn't more teams jump on this I think they just worried I think they didn't think it was going to be this much of it like I risk versus reward you know it's just something different and maybe they might be worried about the hose like we said

or they might be worried about something else about the pit stop where are you going to keep doing this if somebody runs over your hose and rips that gun out of there and then you're yeah you know you go from top five to 25th yeah how much time are you gaining versus the risk of losing two seconds that's what i'm saying do you do you just stick with the safe way that doesn't put yourself in any danger or do you or maybe you pull this out at the end if you need a gain in a pit you know what I mean maybe you switch it up but this is my last stop of the day I'm running third I'm try to come out with the lead. I'm going to do it. I like it. I'm a big fan of it.

I like a playbook for it. Like the options are, I like having the option. Hey guys, this is the money stop. We're going to go for it right here. I love the evolution of the sport in these kinds of things. Yeah, for sure. Spot on, spot off. Kevin Harvick says, you all need to get your shit together on the spotter stand on the radio after the finish where he almost caught Hamlin for the victory. Brett. This is a, this is a weird scenario. because the 10 and 22 were side by side racing one another when the leader caught them. And the leader was Denny Hamlin. And the 10 pushed the 22 up and gave Denny a lane to clear them both quickly.

And then when his own teammate caught him, they were three wide with a four on the bottom. And the 10 did not just let him have it. The 10 actually slowed the momentum of the four down. It was backwards of how it should have been. It was complete backwards of how it should have been. So I don't know what was relayed to Eric Amarola. I don't know what was relayed, obviously, to Joy Lugano because you have a teammate in the 10, and then you have a manufacturing teammate in the 22.

So for those two guys to essentially... Were they racing? They halted Kevin Harvick's ability to have a shot. shot at the wind. And that can't happen. I mean, it can happen and it did happen. But if you're, if you're all aligned, and what I mean by aligned is, you got Ford, then you've got management, then you've got spotter communication, then you've got driver. And if anywhere in there, it's broken, you see what happens yesterday. And if they're aligned and Joel Edmund says to the 10, you know, hey, Harvick's coming, man, he's only three back of this 11. It's for the win with three to go.

I don't think you do what he did because he let the first guy go and then he race the second guy. You don't have to do anything but just race the other guy and run your lane. Run your line. Like Kevin Dewey. Let Kevin handle it from there. And they were already too wide. So, man, I would love to know if this was an Eric Amarola decision.

I'd love to go back and you guys have, I think, the ability to go listen to some of the in-car stuff. I don't have that. But I would love to know what he was told and then analyze what he did because it sure looked like that he didn't do anything. thing to help his teammate. He actually did something hurt him. Spot off for the whole situation if I'm a SHR guy. I'm spot off because I saw, I watched it on the

front stretch off of four and I'm like, oh, this is going to get good. And then I seen what happened in one and I was like, damn, this is boring. But yeah, I don't, there was some drastic moves. Like it, you know, like, and I get it, man. Some guys don't like to be a part of anything like that. but I don't know. I mean, every driver makes their own decision on it.

I wanted to see, I wanted to see Kevin get there and see what he would have done to make a good race, man. You know, I don't, whoever wins from there, I'm not a fan of going on there and just wrecking Danny.

I wouldn't want to see that. I don't think Kevin would have done that. I think, uh, I think it was going to be a good race between two really good short drag drivers. So I'm confused. By Danny.

Denny's gone. So now you're going. Now you guys think the teammates should have helped him win Because a couple weeks ago you said that that was no good The lap car should have just got the hell out of the way I just said they should have race the race I'm just saying you guys are now you guys are faulting The 10 for not helping when two weeks ago you said

The 4 did the wrong thing by helping his teammate win the race The 4 did do the wrong thing At the restrict a play track Okay He's two laps down He helped his teammate win the race Now this week you guys are saying This teammate should have helped

Listen the 10 should have helped him The 10 should have stayed in the bottom And Harvick would have gotten to his bumper And would have moved him because I think he said in this post-race interview, he had all intentions of getting to that 11s bumper and moving him out of the way. Because like we talked about last week with Ross,

that the win at all cost, you have to win a race, especially now we've just talked about how many different winners you have. You're not going to be able to point you weigh in, I don't think. So if you knew, there's only going to be one, maybe two spots available. So if you have a shot of the guy's back bumper on the last lap,

you're going to take it. And the 10 cost Kevin twice that opportunity. Once by moving out of the 11th way, and then the second time, by staying on his door off a turn two and making sure Kevin had no run down the backstretched to even attempt to get to the 11's bumper. So we talked about it on here all the time and I talked about it last week or whatever was two weeks ago.

Your job as the driver of the 10 is to make sure your car wins the race. Your second job as a driver of the 10, Stuart House car is to make sure or do everything you can to make sure a Stewart House car wins the race. And they didn't do that yesterday. And like you talked about whether or not that's an Eric decision because obviously Eric doesn't have a long term future there. This is his last season. Maybe he don't give a about.

I just think. as a competitor in the field, you give the people who have earned the right to race for the win, the right to race for the win. And I thought Eric gave Denny that right. He got out of Denny's way. He didn't hold him up any,

but then he actually did the opposite to his teammate. And regardless of if his teammate or not, get the fuck out of the way. These guys are racing for the win with two to go. So, yeah, if you're going to do it, if you're going to do it for one, you got to do it for the other. If you're, if you're the spotter of the four car yesterday,

and your AJ's in the 10's position or Bushers in the 10's position, are you not expecting the 10 to stay in the 11's way? Maybe for a corner. But my job as a spotter is to tell the 10 what's coming. And here comes Denny. He's leading. He's cleared by three to Kevin. Our teammate, two to go, whatever the hell.

I'm going to paint the exact picture of what's going on. And again, the driver make his decision because obviously we can. can't say, oh, you need to screw the 11 right here. Help our teammates. I did it yesterday. Well, the 24 was leading. This is earlier, maybe 100 to go, 150 to go, something like that. 24 was leading.

Danny was about 10 back. And we were on a little fresher tire than William. So I knew he wasn't just going to be able to buzz by us. And we actually ended up driving away from him. But I admitted, I painted the picture to Bubba. I said, you know, five back to the 24 and he's got 10 to the 11 for the lead. That tells Bubba. I'll get out of him.

You just have the decision to hold him up and maybe help Danny or, or you just get out of the way into it, but eventually we drove off, so it didn't matter. But at Richmond, it's really easy just to give a guy the bottom and race him on exit one time. And it's probably a half a second. Honestly, honestly, that's not anything really malicious either. You know what I mean? That's just race and short track. Of course, you can let a guy, you know, Danny gets there, lets him clear him in the middle of the corner so Danny can use the racetrack on exit if he needs to and gain a little bit of time.

But I still don't like John Hunter wedging himself in there as a lap truck. and being a part of the finish like that. I don't like that. But catching lap cars at the wrong time. I mean, it costs Scott McLaughlin an IndyCar win in Texas. What can you do? You know, but a guy placing himself in that position purposely, I don't, I'm not a fan of that.

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But we just finished analyzing the Stewart Haas Racing scenario where we thought the 10 car didn't cut his teammate a break. And actually, he cut the leader a break, but maybe not even his teammate. you guys are all watching. You obviously are very invested as to who wins this race and who you're pulling for. What was your take on those last couple laps, man, as Kevin was kind of running down Denny and they ran up on the 10 car who was too wide with Lugano. Yeah, I mean, it's tough. For me, my initial reaction, I really didn't even think about it.

It looked kind of like some bad time there. I mean, he gave Harvick the bottom line. He probably, you know, heard him a little off of two. but I didn't see too big of a problem there. I really don't think Harvard was going to be able to catch the 11 anyways, unless he was going to have to do one of those dive bomb moves that we've seen lately. So really, it didn't really hurt my feelings. I see no problem with it,

and I don't think it will be too big of a discussion here today. As a Stuart Hoss guy, were you not maybe hoping he didn't give either one of them the bottom and kind of brought the 11 back to you, Kevin? Yeah, I mean, there's, I guess, a bunch of different ways he could have, he could have, you know, done that differently. You know, I think the easiest thing is just to go to the top and let it play out naturally. Honestly, I'm all about teammates helping each other. I just don't think that was the best time to do it.

And, you know, at the end of the day, the floor had a great day, a great race. So it would be 11. And I didn't really see anything, you know, that would hurt anybody's feelings here, to be honest. Yeah, well, Kevin definitely did because he basically told, he said, you spotters need to get your together up there, which I thought was pretty awesome. So, man, thanks for jumping on with us. Brian Murphy is at Brian underscore Murphy underscore on Twitter. Brian is a very opinionated guy.

In my opinion, he is probably the edgiest team guy that I follow in terms of really putting his opinion out there to be heard. Murph, tell everybody, man, what your role is at Stuart Haas, how you got there, how things are going, and just overall kind of kind of what you do in the sport. Yeah, I start at Stuart Haas in 2015 as a body hanger. I've now moved into an associate shop, form, and role. It's really, it's just helping the people, getting them the information, getting them the parts. Whatever I can do to make their life easier is really what my job is. And, you know, especially now with the new car, getting those parts, getting things sorted out

so that we can put together cars efficiently and maximize performance is really what I try to do every day. You know, it's fun. It's just right now, again, it's such a tough time with this. new car and trying to figure everything out. We hear about these parts shortages. We hear about low car inventories. Is it fair to say that a four-car team is struggling more than a single-car team right now to be able to get all the teams outfitted into the racetrack every week and have the

efficient and sufficient amount of backups and everything? Sure. Yeah, for sure. You know, we have some alliances with Rick Ware and a couple of other smaller teams. And it is funny, they seem to have some more parts available than we do at times. But I think that's because, like you said, they're just trying to get parts for four cars. We're trying to get parts for, you know, four teams. So, yeah, it's a little bit harder for us.

But honestly, I think we've reached the bottom. I think from here on out, things are just going to get better. We're getting more parts. We have more cars. And we've gotten used to dealing with these parts shortages. At first, it was very uncomfortable for us because we've always, had just an unlimited supply parts and pieces and man hours and really nothing to hold us back. And now we kind of had go back to our short track routes where, you know, cars don't get power washed

every week. You kind of hand wipe them off and you start flipping them around really quickly. Parts are instantly coming off cars from this week to be put on cars for next week. So we've gotten a lot more efficient at that. It's part of this next gen process. I mean, this is what NASCAR wants. This is what we need. I mean, we need to be more efficient, more, you know, we need to be more stable with what we're doing. And that's what's happening. I'm going to ask you one more question before we dive into your tweet, which is why we wanted you to come on the show. Former body guy, great finished fab guy, do all the things with the cars.

When you look at what happened with the six car and their body and the penalty that was handed down to them, did that penalty surprise you? No, not at all. You know, it's, I did tweet something about. about that. It wasn't calling anybody out. It's just this is what's going to happen. NASCAR has warned all the teams. It was going to happen to somebody. They're changing the culture of cup racing. There's a lot of differences in how they're going to police this new car. And so I wasn't surprised. Again, I think it was going to happen to somebody. And to be honest, I think it's going to happen again.

So they pass pre-race tech. NASCAR takes the car back to the R&D center. If they don't pull the wrap off this car, do they even find this? Honestly, I don't even know exactly what it was. It's amazing how hush-hush it's been kept throughout the garage. I've heard bits and pieces of what it was. I've heard it's multiple, multiple things that kind of led to this penalty. And it's hard for me to really comment on how or why it got caught. But yeah, I mean, going back to the R&D Center, it has been a thing this year, unlike recent

years. I think you're going to see more of it just because the officials are having to evolve and learn just like the teams. It's almost impossible for them to correctly police this platform just by going to the racetrack and learning those things. They have to bring the car back to learn and see just like we do as teams.

Do you think I've seen some conversations about this last week when this penalty got handed down? Do you think NASCAR should make these penalties public and exactly what the six got caught for? I mean, especially with this new process, you know, obviously you don't want to let out all the secrets and have teams trying to build off what you already found. But should this be a public forum now for going forward about exactly what these guys are getting penalized for?

Absolutely, 100%. I think the more transparent this industry can be, whether it be on the technical side or the penalty side, you guys know, a lot of the things we fail for or a lot of things that we get penalized for, some of them aren't really on purpose. some of them, you know, a lot of the technical failures in inspection are just, you know, us pushing the limits. And we're dealing with small tolerances. In this case, I think it would definitely help open the eyes for the fans and the teams on what NASCAR is wanting if they were to be more public with what teams were failing for. So I definitely think with this next gen platform, it's something that we need to look into as a sport.

Awesome. So Brian Murphy, Stuart Hoss Racing, you break into the sport. Look at you go, man. Moving up the corporate ladder. I love it. We all got into the sport a long time ago. People are always asking, tweeting, texting, emailing, what can I do to get into NASCAR? You sent out a tweet this past weekend.

Jason's going to read it for us. Then I just want to hear kind of what your thought process is and what you meant by saying this. So Brian tweeted the sport has gone from people fighting over employment to having the perfect amount of jobs for the industry to team members just absolutely running away. If you're looking to get into NASCAR, there has never been. a better time. What do you mean, dog? Talk to us. I'm actually really glad you guys brought me on to explain myself because there's so many

ways to dissect that tweet honestly. And my initial reason behind it was just what I said was, you know, there are a lot of people leaving the sport right now for many different reasons, good or bad, but it's just the fact. And for the people that are looking to get into this sport, you know, there's never been a better time. We're constantly looking for team members, whether it be rows, crews or mechanics or whatever it is.

And I get phone calls throughout the garage, you know, just, hey, you know, anybody we're looking for a front end mechanic. We're looking for a finish-fab guy. So, you know, and 10 years ago, there was stacks of resumes. There was lines at the door trying to get in. And right now we just don't see that anymore. So, I mean, if people are looking to get in the sport, there's no better time than now. I talked to my buddy Chris Sherwood yesterday over at Gibbs, and he said he's seeing people

reappear that had been gone for a while, whether it was on their record or not. I mean, I've literally seen guys that I knew were fired for screwing things up, and I see those guys back on set-up plates and people's shops. I mean, big prominent team shops, right? So how do you go about, I get this question all the time, I know the answer, but I want you to tell about how do you actually get in front of somebody to get a chance to get hired in NASCAR? What is the easiest way to do that?

Well, I mean, we're talking about so many different series here. And the first thing you've got to do is you have to, at least. least know what you want to do. A lot of people, they, they don't know what they want to do, whether it be IT, mechanics, fabrication. So you kind of have to just dabble in different, you know, racing series just to kind of figure out what exactly you're looking for. I started out in the short tracks when I thought, I, you know, I came down here thinking I was going to be a motor builder and I realized really quickly, I am not a good motor guy. So it was, it was great to work in the lower series and get my feet wet, get a little understanding of the mechanics side. And every time I

moved up, I realized that I didn't know, you know, everything that I needed for that particular series. And that's how it's going to go. You're going to learn as you go up, but just dabbling in the beginning and then just showing your face, like networking. That is the biggest part of the sport is being around, people seeing your face, talking to the crew members, talking to everybody within the industry, whether it be a vendor or a team, and just showing that you're really driven, that you want to be a part of this sport. And that's really the big. And that's really the biggest thing to be honest. Are the hours right now the craziest they've ever been since you've been in the sport in terms of you guys are waiting on parts than when you finally get them, you're thrashing,

burning the midnight oil. I mean, you talked about going back to short track routes. That's what guys did. When they got off work, they went and worked on their own race cars and worked on them all night. Like, are you guys burning more man hours right now than potentially ever? Absolutely not. Honestly, I think there's probably the least amount of hours we've ever worked about right now. Surprisingly, you know, back in the days when we had unlimited, you know, car counts, we had a fleet of 120 cars. From the end of Thanksgiving to Easter, our fabrication guys were six to five, five days a week

and sometimes Saturdays. So, you know, we don't have the opportunity to just build cars because we just want to see if we can do something better. Now, what has happened is when you do work, it's a much bigger thrash. So when cars come back from the racetrack, you are worried. working as hard and quickly as possible to get things disassembled, get them to the department so they can be rebuilt and gone through. And then, and then you're kind of already set for the next race. And, you know, you're kind of, there's two or three days there of the week where you're,

you're just kind of comfortable. So, yeah, I don't think as far as Stewart House racing, we're not seeing the hours like we used to, which is kind of nice because it's, it's letting people be with their families more. The weekends are less busy. But yeah, I hear a lot of People talk about the hours, and for us, it's just, it's not as many hours as it used to be. Are you guys looking at any kind of a rotation with your crew guys? Like, I've talked to some of the teams in the garage, and obviously, we only have one weekend off in the Cup series this year. So basically, you start in February, you end in late October. It's straight through other than one weekend off.

Some teams are doing a rotation where, you know, the car chief gets three weekends off, and here's what they are. We bring a guy, you know, from the shop that's capable of being a car chief, and we, we, let him come back and do his old job. Same with tire guys and whatever else. Are you guys doing that as Stuart Hosser? Are you pretty much saying, hey, we're all in this together. We're a team. We're going to go to battle every single week and you get your one weekend off.

No, we're kind of, I think from what I can tell going with the old school deal where, you know, the road crew is going to be the road crew and the home crew is going to be the home crew. So I definitely think that's going to be a good idea for the future to, you know, we don't want people to get burned out. And the schedule is going to be very difficult. So I think as the season plays out, you'll see some adjustments. But right now, our road crew crews clicked together really well. They all enjoy traveling for the most part, the people that we have.

And I think we got a good crew just to send to the racetrack every week. I got a lot of good friends of Stuart Haas. Obviously, spent some time there, won some races there. Proud of you guys turning around this year being fast. You're going to get inundated with freaking DMs from people saying, hey, Brian, I heard you on DBC. and you get me a job, so I hope you got a canned response to get ready for all these resumes. No, that's fine.

Like I said, I love that there's so much opportunity in the sport, and I didn't want that tweet to be a turnoff. It created a lot of conversation unexpectedly. It was a very vague tweet, so I guess I should have known what was about to happen. But a lot of great conversations. It's a great sport to work in. I absolutely love it. And a lot of the reasons people are leaving isn't necessarily, You know, it's nothing bad.

It's just a time for a change. A lot of people are looking for something different. A lot of the jobs that we had, the metal shaping, the body work, that's all gone. So a lot of those guys still want to do those things. It's a great sport to be a part of. And like I said, there's no better time to get into it than now. Well, that's why we wanted to bring you on. We love to have people that stir up and then we bring them on to clarify what they meant.

We've done it with a lot of people. Mike Joy, Jenna Fryer. We could keep that list going. So thanks for jumping on, brother. and best of luck this weekend at the old Martinsville paperclip. One of my favorites. And we won there in 2018 and that snow weekend. So maybe we can repeat and bring home another clock.

Yes, that will be awesome. I was extremely hung over the next day. I remember that one. See you, brother. Thank you, Brian Murphy. Thank you. Spot on, spot off. Ty Gibbs move on teammate John Hunter Neumichek to win the Xfinity Series race at Richmond.

Go ahead, Freddie. Anything to win, right? As long as your car wins. Anything. DJ. I mean, it's hard for me not to like a little bump and run, short track racing.

So I'm spot on for doing whatever it takes to win the race. You didn't wreck a guy. You didn't destroy him. You know, the only bad part about this is he's got a history of rubber people lately and spinning them out and, you know,

well, you think I got loose in front of me. Yeah, because you were three inches off his back bumper and he was going to, you know what I'm saying? Like, you make certain things happen, but, man, as Brett always says, what do you say, guy got the trophy and kissed the girl, right? Yeah. So, I'm, man, look, Ty Gibbs has won seven out of 25 races, win percentage of 28%. Pretty high.

I only thing I'm spot off about is John Hunter's Nemichek's comment after the race. I can't say what I want to say or I'll get in trouble. Well, you look like a B. When you said that. So if you're going to either say something or don't say anything, because I am not a fan of the whole, because that creates this situation where it looks like Ty is the favorite. Well, no, he's the favorite. He's a grandson of the owner. Like, that shouldn't be a surprise to you.

He just stood there and drank his water bottle. And to your point, did you not think he was going to try to move you? Yeah, he's going to try to move you. And I would expect John Hunter to try to move him. Exactly. Why would you not? I was spot on for every single piece of everything that happened right up until he made that comment, which, oh, by the way, do you remember what you did to Cole Custer years ago and run him in the fence at that road course?

Yeah. And you're going to fussing somebody by a little bump and run? You always talk about drivers needing to own up for what they say. Well, Ty admitted, like, hey, I did it. He was, I own. Teddy Christopher said this best a long time ago. You want friends. Go to summer camp.

Ty Gibbs don't give it to anybody likes him at this point right now, I don't think. And he is driving that way. What will be interesting to see, I think, in the near future, and it's probably going to come in the very near future, is Ty has no problem dishing it out. Yeah. What's going to happen when it gets back to him?

Because that's where you can tell the difference of a guy that, listen, if Ty Gibbs gets moved by John Hunter, the next race they run, and Ty gets out and goes, I put myself in that position, he got to me, move me, whatever, then that's good. If he gets out and cries about it, He physically cried at Phoenix. Yeah.

I mean, you can't, you can, if you can dish it out, you better be able to take it. I don't want to hear any, you complain when somebody gives it back to you now, because you, you've, you've, this is multiple times this year, multiple times I watched him wrecked there. Yeah, the Arker races, he was turning people. So, you know, it is what it is. And I'm all for it. You know, and from a team standpoint, this is what JGR has no issue with this because

for one, it's obviously tied that won the race. But they didn't wreck each other. They didn't, you know, they, they, they, does a good race. Make sure our damn team wins. I don't care if you guys. run each other over, but one of years better win the damn race. And they did. I think that I think John Hunter made two, maybe three mistakes here in the last lap. One, he parked his car on the bottom of one and two with no center speed whatsoever to try to hold the bottom and a loud tie to get to his

bumper to move him up off a two. So now off a turn two, they're side by side. Now you have to make the decision of obviously, I guess John Hunter and his thought process was he's going to run me clean, which I don't know why he would have thought that watching Ty. He needs to drive in deeper than him. he's thinking, you know, I got to get in there and he's not going to give me room. What he needed to do was, one, let him go, get behind him and move him back in three and four or two, run into three like you're going to run in there hard and then stop the brake pedal and turn back underneath him because you know, you have to know in that situation, John Hunter is not going to give you room.

I mean, I'm sorry, Ty Gibbs is not going to give John Hunter any room. So I think if he crowds him. Work your damn crossover. I think if he crowds him, he can spin tie out on the inside too. They were not. Ty had no intentions of making that corner. He was going in there and taking John Hunter. That's what I'm saying, though.

If John, that would have wrecked them both. He could have been on his door. Then it would have wrecked both. He was not. That's what I'm saying. He was not going to do anything to stay off of John Hunter. So he wasn't going to spin himself out. You can't let his nose be in front of ears into the corner.

That's where he made a mistake in one and two. I think if he would have ran through one and two like he had been. And had a better run off of two, John Hunter, I mean, Ty would not have had control of the situation in the three. John Hunter would have been more in control because he was going to know's I'm going to know's head. even if Ty is three car lengths Bad on the Baststresh,

he is going to get to John Hunter's bumper still. 100%, but at least you're in a little bit more control. If you're wheel to wheel... It's harder for him to do it at that point. If you're wheel to wheel with a guy in the three, the guy on the bottom has all the control. I mean, you can crowd them all you want, but he can take you to the cleaners like...

Well, if his right front's behind your left front is going to spin himself out or take you with him. Yeah, well, that's what I'm saying, but like it's just... I knew what he was doing or knew how to do it. Yeah, I think that John Hunter had a couple different options there, and I think he just put too much faith in thinking that he was going to get ran clean and I don't know why he would have thought that.

He wins four races, his first year and a part-time effort. He went four for 18. He has won three races out of seven this year. How long are you going to leave his kid in Xfinity series? I saw a stat, which I have not confirmed yet, but I believe there's another guy with the same winning percentage in the Xfinity series

as Ty Gibbs and it's Kyle Busch. Yeah, yeah. He seemed to work out pretty good. Like, I mean, at what point are you going to say, hey, we're moving him to cup. This is where we're going to go. Is it a third team? Is it a third team with Denny or is somebody out at JGR?

Because how many races you got to win to prove that you belong in the Cubs series? I think that's a foregone conclusion now. I don't know if it's full time next year, but he's going to be in a cup card next year. There is zero doubt Ty Gibbs is going to be in a cup car. Whether it's next year, they might let him run two years depending on how things work out. But Ty's so young, I don't think that hurts him right now. I think you just keep building his momentum. know if he was dominating because we all know when you go to the cup car it's a whole

another experience i think you have to i think ideally if if i'm a executive at jr i i leave him full-time exfinity but make sure he gets cup starts next year because obviously it's a whole different world that car versus how it used to be yeah you know you want to have them see time where you don't want to just throw him to the wolves i'll say this though the cup car drives nothing like the exfinity car so when you look at all these first-time winners I think a lot of that is attributed to the fact that these younger guys, like a Ross Chastain, like some of the other first-time winners that we've seen this year, is because they're not at a big deficit because of the experience.

It's the first year for everybody. So the longer you wait to put Ty in that car, the more he's going to get behind on that experience. If you look at him fast cars too, though, fast cars go fast. Fast cars still go fast. I 100% agree with you. But if you let him run some this year, put him in a couple races, see how he does, put him in good stuff. I'm sure there's a Toyota team

they can fake it until they make it and do what Stuart Haas does when they do the Rick Ware thing with Ryan Priest. Field a Stuart Haas car under the Rick Ware name and let Ryan Priest go out there and haul ass, right?

Like I don't see the reason in waiting to put him in cup. I put him in cup next year if it's up to me. There is no Toyota teams, but I'm sure you could make something happen. You can make something happen. Are there any, is there anybody up contract-wise next year? I don't know exactly where a contract.

tracks are at. There's a lot of rumors that True X is potentially up. Yeah, obviously M&M's leaving Joe Gibbs racing is a big deal. You know, the Mars family, they love racing. They were a big part of being in the sport and why the brand was in the sport. So them leaving to me still, long time. Them leaving to me still seems really weird because Victoria Mars and Pamela Mars love to come to the racetrack. They love the sport. And a new CEO comes in and doesn't want to be here. Well, guess what? If the Mars family wanted to be here, they'd still be here. So I don't know. I just think that if I'm Joe Gibbs racing,

I'm going to put Ty Gibbs in a cup car as quick as I can. Because what's the point? There is no point. I'd move him up, get him ready. I mean, he's a big part of the future. Spot on, spot off. Kevin Harbick says he's talked to Jim France about keeping young racing talent steered towards stock cars

because he said most young go-carters, including Keelan, want to race F1. Ready. Well, I don't really fault Giel and Harvick because I just seen the contract that Max for Snap and signed a couple weeks ago. And a lot of them Xfinity, a lot of them F1 guys are, are rich rather high up on the food chain. And it doesn't come as a surprise to me. And Jason can answer the question of why some of these kids want to run F1. Jason, why is that?

Drive to survive. Content. You know, I think F1, when I was growing up, and this is. you know, early 90s in racing where I was like, you know, I want to race like my dad, this, that the other early to mid-90s, you know, everybody that I knew wanted to win the Daytona 500. You know, you wanted to be the Dale Earnhardt. You want to be Jeff Gordon. Formula One wasn't even a blip on the radar in my life.

You know, I barely even knew the Formula One existed and I was going to racetracks every week of my life. Nowadays, I feel like I see more Formula One stuff than NASCAR stuff. You know, it's insane how much it's blown up. and how much content they put out and that drive to survive is leading the charge. And we know how much

these guys are on iPads and Netflix and everything else. You can watch it all day long. But it doesn't come as a surprise to me where younger kids are gravitating towards F1 just the pomp and circumstance around the whole thing. Obviously the kids don't know about the money side of it yet, but maybe some of them do.

Keelan probably does. But yeah, it doesn't come as a surprise to me. Brett. I am spot on for the fact that Kevin Hart, made this public. I am spot off on the actual comment itself because in reality, Kevin Harvick said on the Del Jr. Download last year that he is sending Keelan to Europe to run against some of the best road racers in the world at his age. How many people can afford to do that? T.J., can you afford to send your daughter and if you had a son to Europe to race for a while?

He's still working on the boat, so. No, man, we're going to GoPro. So with all due respect, the average human, that has a child that is Keelan's age, hopes at best to get to Milbridge to be able to race on Tuesday or Wednesday night at that age. It is crazy to think that the majority of people in America who have kids that are racing want to go be F1 drivers because I still think NASCAR is king in America. I still think there's nothing better than being a Cup Series driver. There's nothing more competitive.

and I think this is something that Kevin is saying because his child is very fortunate to have a father that is very knowledgeable about racing but also very wealthy. I think I think that he has a point in that kids always want what's in and what's cool right now. Right now people are talking about F1. And if you have the opportunity to go that way, then absolutely. But I think last Wednesday, Chad races two micro is one restricted. with a lot of people, but I mean, there are 35 micros. And these are kids that come out and just race every week to try and get to NASCAR.

So I think if there's an opportunity to go F1 racing, absolutely. How many times have you seen Keel and Harvick at Millbridge? He raced there a while. Yeah. A handful of times. And you see a lot. It's not what they're pursuing, though. Like if they're going to go to Europe, you're almost saying you want to pursue the F1 route.

I think that Kevin would, and this is what I would, obviously, I don't have the means to do this. And I don't think anybody in this room has the means to do this. But Kevin is doing the right thing by Keelan where he's in multiple different disciplines of racing. He's got a micro for Millbridge. He's got, I've seen him testing legend cars at short tracks. He's running go carts in this, you know, WK, you know, whatever going to, not talking about going to Europe. So obviously, if you have the means to get your kid in every form of racing that you can do, make him a better road racing. make him a better oval racer,

making them a better dirt racer. Obviously, that's the route you would want to go. Obviously, at one point you're going to have to take one and focus on it. But, you know, even,

I hear you say NASCAR is king in America. And, man, I'm sure it is. You know, if you take a poll right now, I'm sure it is. But I don't know that

Cup ratings are four times out of F1. I'm not talking about F1. I'm talking about if you talk to kids these days, it's, you know, F1's obviously big. We're talking about here now. dirt racing's huge you talk about you talk about what's the avenue we see milbridge we just talked

about how many carts they had the other night uh they had so many cars they had to split the nights up and they run two different nights now um what's the avenue for a kid around here aside from the summer shootout to which the summer shootouts only i don't know four or five weeks long you know it's like seven or eight weeks maybe but you know that's just the summer where else are you going to go race around here that it brings that kind of hype to it I just feel like we're falling behind with our presence at short tracks and local short tracks. When I was growing up, the NASCAR Weekly Racing Series or the Winston and Weekly Racing Series was huge. Guess who paid for that?

Yeah, Winston paid for most of it. But then they transitioned down. It still was pretty big. I know Dodge was paying for it for a while and they're gone. But, you know, I feel like we need to have a better presence at our NASCAR short tracks to promote it and promote to the kids and stuff. This is fun and get out here and do this stuff. Kevin Harvick specifically went to them a few years ago and said, you got to do more with the weekly racing series.

And I haven't seen anybody doing anything more because there's nobody willing to write the check. It sounds like he's done the same thing again. But he's done a great job behind the scenes of supporting people who are trying to go that route too. I mean, there's a lot that you guys don't see on the background. And I do agree with Freddie. He's doing a great job of giving Keelan every opportunity he possibly can, no matter what route he takes. I just don't think there's a lot of people that can do that.

I don't think there's a lot of people that can do what Kevin. Look, how many bad cars is Chase Ellie never driven in his life? None. Neither will Keel and Harvick. He'll never drive a bad car. DJ? I can see both sides of it a little bit. You look at the Formula One race. The last two races have been night races.

It's been neon lights. You know, all the celebrities on the grid walk and stuff. And that stands out. Like, I'm telling you, that thing they do in Victory Lane, and they drive that car up onto that screen. I don't know if you saw it yet. Yeah. That thing's amazing.

I think the after race stuff is still, I think we should still do a podium, in my opinion. I think it'd be cool to put them all three there. John Hunter standing beside Ty Gibbs and Victory Lane on a podium would have been epic after these. Yeah, but it was just like Lewis and Max last year, whenever, remember they walked by each other and bump shoulders and stuff? I mean, that's, I love it. Yeah, I'm going to tune in. I'm going to watch.

Yeah. So, I don't know, there's always things, but there's also the traditional part of, like, NASCAR, like our races aren't these sprint races. Like, that Formula One race is over quick, you know, these are, if our race is over and Twitter last, we would, Denny wouldn't won that race. Not even, you know what I mean? It would have been completely different. So I think you've got to make sure you separate what kind of racing you're watching. But, you know, Formula definitely has a little bit of momentum. But, you know, I still. think that, and there's definitely things we can do that NASCAR is still where you want to go. Yeah. Like in here, like around here. We are just a few weeks out until the Dirtymo Media ultimate experience at Charlotte.

I don't know about you guys, but I'm pretty excited. Oh yeah, we did invite you, didn't we? Yeah, I was invited last week and it was recorded, so don't worry. I told you it's really just for Chloe. So if you don't bring Chloe, you're not invited. I can't wait to get to Charlotte to see all you fans, man. We love you guys. Vegas was a big hit.

Obviously, we're all about having fun on this show and having fun at the races. And there's nothing better than showing up, getting a drink beer for 600 miles. Yeah. Fireball. Shot of Fireball. Fireball. Listen, this is the 600 in May. This is a freaking, one of the biggest races of the year.

And the whole area that week, man, is just a great week to be in town. I think we should do a big GoPro race with all these guys that are. coming. Like we used to do. If you're coming to the suite, I think we should all meet at GoPro and have a little quick race too, just to make it even more fun to be in Charlotte. I like it. If you're a race fan and you're a NASCAR fan, Charlotte is freaking heaven.

You understand you're signing you and Freddie up for a go-kart race, right? Yeah, they got big seats. We're going to run a two-seat or me and Brett. We're going to need a bigger motor, ladies and gentlemen. We'll spot for you. And you guys all dress up in the Mario Kart costumes, too? We're going to run a bigger motor. shells and stuff at people when they go by.

We're going to run a bigger motor, but when you shut up at the suite, we want you to blow a motor. That's how much fun we want you to have. Listen, and, you know, I'm sure Mike will be there, you know, taking care of everybody again. He got upset that I, that I called him out last week for thinking that he was the grand attraction. Well, listen, so we know Mike's not the grand attraction.

I thought we were the grand attraction, but they announced this week that we might have been trumped because Jordan Taylor is going to go to the suite and hang out. that's awesome during the Charlotte 600 at Coke 600 so I can't wait to meet him I mean if you guys have seen some of these video jorts that he's been doing they I was going to ask him as a tire is going to be hysterical if he doesn't wear if he doesn't wear george to this deal we're not going to be friends with him anymore but that's going to be awesome for you guys I mean just to hang out I mean Jordan Taylor on top being one of the funniest personalities on social media also just happens to be a badass race car driver that I believe won C-bring a couple weeks ago so you know that's just another perk of it I mean I mean, we'd love to, you know, meet everybody. We did a Q&A for, I don't even know, 10 to 20 minutes or something like that before the race started. Yeah, Mike turned the heat on for that. Yeah, I mean, we weren't melting. Hopefully the air works a little better in this sweet.

But, yeah, I mean, it's just an awesome experience. And we love to interact with you guys. So I hope everybody gets their tickets now. They're going pretty fast again. So don't miss it. Get yours now. And then you also get your scanner so you can listen to these guys while they are in the race. And then you can talk about them after.

And they did the last time because we all wrecked, I think, and they talked trash while we wrecked. But I would come in on Tuesday. Easy. I would come in on Tuesday. I would go to Millbridge because they'll be racing out there Tuesday, Wednesday night, right? Yeah, come Wednesday night. And if you're NASCAR fan, everybody at Millbridge pretty much works in NASCAR. I mean, it's even the Kenny Francis that used to be Casey Kane's crew chief.

Obviously you're going to see Kelly Earnhardt out there. A lot of different NASCAR folks. Casey boat. I would come in. I know. Every time you say Milbridge, Casey's like, oh, I'll be there. I will be there. I'm sorry.

That's my life. I just think, do Millbridge, do GoPro, do the Hall of Fame. There's so many great. Do your favorite race shops. Go to Brett's house. Go to Junior Motorsports. Check them out, man. You got to come do this sweet experience.

It's going to be awesome. 10 out of 10. And the, I mean, I did not see anybody, the stuff that was given away and stuff. Everyone had a really good time. The biggest thing I think that we do as far as with that Q&A especially is, you know, we can kind of paint a picture. of stuff that you might not anticipate watching when you go on the racetrack if you just go and sit in the grandstands and listen. You could always rent a scanner and listen. But,

you know, we kind of paint a picture of what we're getting ready to watch and what we'll be looking for during the race. And it kind of helps the fan that's listening to us, either any of the three of us or even their own favorite driver about how the race is playing out and stuff like that. So just, you know, it's an unbelievable opportunity. We talked about it in sweet about, you know, you don't get this kind of access when you go to a football game. You don't get this kind of access to the baseball game. So, you know, take a advantage of a wall. It's there. SMI, Charlotte Motor Speedway. They want you to have fun. That's why they're allowing us to do this. And we can't wait to see you guys. Big hugs all around.

Yeah. Hopefully see you there. So buy your tickets now at jerrymo Media.com. They're going to sell out quick again like they did for Vegas. So get them now. Book your trip to Charlotte. Nobody's listening, but I don't care. I'm on an episode of Doorball for clear. Oh, T.J.'s cool. And Freddy kisses. Hamlin's ass. Every chance he gets. Casey's beautiful.

But she never, ever paints her. But Briscoe forgot that he had breaks. Now the pasta's getting high. And it's going to hell. It's time for Reaction Theater. I'm about tired of the way Ty Gibbs races. It's one thing to bump into somebody for a win. It's another thing to have a guy race you clean

and not rough you up any because you're the boss's grandson and then you just go up and body slam the guy and turns three and four. Come on, man. Race with a little more respect. I hate to hear you're tired of it because it's not going to stop anytime soon. He's pretty young and he's not going anywhere. Crimea river First we had this fake argument between

Chase Salliot and Kyle Larson after what happened in California Now we got this freaking bozo that's pretending to be a watermelon seed Come on Fox Sports You can do fucking better than this Just for the record I had no idea that that call was coming earlier Oh oh oh okay stage two is over All right, cool. Yep. Nothing exciting up to this point. Richmond, you didn't disappoint with your boringness yet again. Jason, I meant to ask you, how was this Richmond race? It's Richmond. That's my answer all week.

I may have been ahead of the curve calling it out last year, just sort of done out there. You know, genius. I will say I was a huge fan of stage two being longer because we knew a pit stop had to come. It gave different strategies. Just imagine if we'd have run another short 75-lap stage. Oh, it wouldn't have made the race even more brutal. I mean, I saw a lot of people complaining about the race, and I think they did a good job, like you said, making stage two longer, and it's half a one, you know, it's hard to explain because I love that. I love that race yesterday, just from the way, you know, the strategy plays out, where we break it down before the race of a two-stop strategy is better than a one-stop strategy,

and then a caution could, you know, affect it or whatnot. But I love to see that stuff play out and see a guy pit. Then another guy pit 20 laps later and see if you can go run them back down, stuff like that. And I saw a tweet from Brett's buddy. I can't even remember his name. Oh, Bromberg. Oh, Jason probably liked the tweets. Probably why you saw it.

Well, no, I think luck retweeted it. And it was almost something. It was I found it interesting. It's one of the first things ever found interesting. Like I said, yesterday was the first multi-car accident in Richmond since 2019. Wow. Jason, I want to tell you this about Richmond. I feel like it was like watching a college football game

that the teams are tied and it goes into overtime and one team wins three to nothing. Because it was an epic finish. You were on the edge of your seat for the finish. But man, leading up to the finish was kind of boring. Come on, NASCAR. How the fuck are you going to wait 200 laps to penalize Kyle Busch for unapproved tape on the grill?

Wait it until 49 laps to go to say, something about this and you just completely f***ed his day over. Come on, man. I'll tell you one thing. When they announced post the 18 for a tape penalty, I was like, what did they just say? I've never heard that before in my life. I just want to say this because I'm clearly in the minority in terms of NASCAR Twitter.

But that was a awesome race. I mean, look, I'm a huge fan of stage race and I have been since they introduced it. I love it. I think it's exactly what NASCAR needed to spice up some of these races. But that race was just thrilling. I mean, different strategies. Thrilling came down to a naturally tight finish.

I mean, it didn't take a fucking Rick Ware car getting in the wall with five to go in order for us to get an exciting finish. What does Cody wear? Cody was in the way yesterday again. I seen him almost wrecked the two car when he was laping him. And then I think him and Ricky wrecked. That was the multi-car wrecked for the first time since 2017 or something. Get the fuck out the way

They just wave the white flag And you're still in the goddamn way Is your spotter T.J A fuck out the way Hey you bunch of I'm gonna be in Martinsville this weekend And uh If you see a mother fucking a white cowboy hat

Flipping off Joe Lugano and Eric Comorola Well hell that'll be me And uh, I'll all don't y'all come on down from the spotters, man, and let's do a shot of fireball. Oh, Jeb Mehta. Is that Jeb? I assume? Yeah.

Jeb meet us at the bottom of the elevator at the race is over, and I would happily do a shot of fireball with you. Right before I'd have somebody drive me home. Jeb, I have to, first of all, we're coming off the most efficient, full weekend schedule I've ever seen NASCAR pull off to do practice, qualifying, and race. Big for you to say that. All two series in two days.

Phenomenal. You're sick? But my dumb ass has to drive all the way to Martinsville on Thursday for one 20 minute practice. So, Jeb, if you're going to be there on Thursday, send me a DM. I'll gladly have a shot of fireball with you after practice because I have a two and a half fire drive up there

and a two and a half fire drive back and I might as well have a shot of fireball. Hang out with you 20 minutes let it wear off and drive home. Jeb, I hope you get your cowboy hat dirty. Get the fuck out the way. I like that. I just hope that Jason doesn't beep out the F word in the song.

Good luck. Because it deserves to be played in its entirety. We just got to get Jason drunk again because I think he let one slip the day after the Vegas show. Nothing happened after Vegas then I'm responsible for it's all Freddy's fault.

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what is your favorite room in your house and is it the same as your wife's favorite room? Brett, I need to know the answer to this one. R.P.G. Room. I can tell you right now, his favorite room and his wife's favorite room, probably are not the same. My favorite room right now is the garage. And I know that's not a quote room. But my ping pong table's out there, Bodie's drums are out there, just got me a new golf cart. out there. All the things that I want to do

are in the garage. Dog treat Dave. And me and Body can kind of have our own little world out there. So I can tell you what room Claudia doesn't like and it's the laundry room

because she apparently has forgot how to wash and dry and iron clothes because my laundry room looks like the damn airplane look when you and Chloe got off that airplane when we got back from Turks and Kekos. Oh, shut.

up. It's a great honor to have clean underwear on today. Just the fact that I had a pair. No. So she's also allergic to the kitchen. Most expensive thing for your kitchen doesn't work. Yeah. Yeah.

I love you, Claudia. I don't know how you do this. Yeah. For how long you've been married? Apparently she doesn't. Apparently she doesn't do much. All right. You guys need to stop.

I'm just saying, I don't know how you do this. It doesn't sound like she does much. Ready, please say something nice about Mecken. Does Megan do your laundry? You want me to... Well, Megan come do my laundry? If I drop it off, will she do it at your house? Megan, John Will.

Megan made a valuable mistake, very bad mistake. She put in her wedding vows that she would do my laundry. So anytime she doesn't, I'm like, hey, this is grounds for divorce. Like, it was in the vows where you were going to have my laundry done in time for me to leave the next week. But yeah, she does all the laundry on a fairly consistent basis. So maybe bring some over for her, Brett. Wow. I'm assuming my favorite room is just mine.

I just don't want to end up with your underwear instead of mine. Last time I saw you a different underwear was like boathies, I think. They were an extra small. She bought Texas. My favorite room is probably my living room with my big ass couch. And Megan's favorite room is probably any room that I'm not in. So that's probably how that breaks down. DJ.

I'd probably say the office or the garage. one of the other, probably the office. Is out of your Sim reggae is and stuff? Yeah, you can, I got TV in there, sim stuff in there. Kind of business you run out of there. I can't tell you. I can't tell you.

I got a couch in there and stuff. Actually, I think me and Brett recorder was showing there like three years ago, four years ago, one time. But that or the garage. I got TV in my garage now, so it's also a place where I can pretty much go and guarantee. I thought about putting a TV in my garage.

Oh, yeah. It's a garage game. Well, streaming stuff now. You always just put smart TV in there and it. Yeah. Yeah, it's way to go now. My garage, I've got to have a party because my garage is getting overrun with shit. I don't, every time I do it.

Well, you don't have kids. So you try to get away from the party when you have kids. But I'm saying, like, every time I have a party, it's always in the garage. And every, so that gives me a reason to clean every six months or so. Now I haven't had a party. Let's have a party tonight for the National Championship game. Okay. It gives you for you to find out of notice.

No, you've already got me working all day today. Or Charlotte race we can. Invite. everybody to your garage. Yeah, Megan will be pumped about that. Yeah, we'll go from GoPro to your garage. It'll be fun. Yeah.

Your house is closer to GoPro than mine is, I think. Yeah, you got a bigger couch. Go get a cash offer on your home today with our presenting sponsor, offerpad.com. What an idiot. Time for What an idiot. Brett, who wins this week? Well, Denny Hamlin just got his 47th cup win. He now ranks 17th.

on the all-time win list. Don't even start. Around him are guys like this. Tony Stewart with 49. Erb Thomas with 48. Buck Baker with 46. Bill Elliott with 44. Mark Martin with 40.

Tim Flock with 39. Guess what all those guys have in common, Freddie? I could guess. They're all in the F***ing Hall of Fame. So Mike, what an idiot is T.J. Majors for saying Denny Hamlin does not belong in the Hall of Fame. What an idiot. But you're not.

I'm saying right now he doesn't. We can't put the guy in. there right now. If he retires and we talk about this next year, I'll probably say he does. But right now, I'm not putting a guy in the Hall of Fame that's still racing. That's not the way you said. That's... I've just said, that's not the way we talked about it.

No. Where's Homer? That's what the sound of backing up. If you ask me down the road... DJ just backpedaled away from the table. I'm not talking about putting a guy in a Hall of Fame that's still currently a driver. You can't do that anyway, but you said he's not worthy last year. Just like Kyle Larson is never going to figure out this package.

You point blank said he's not a chance. Carl Larson did not have to figure out anything. He doesn't have a championship. Kyle Larson had that figured out the moment he hit fourth year. So I don't know if I have one or a good one this week, man. Do you, Freddie? I have one that's really not racing related, but. Yeah, there's not.

There was actually a pretty good week on the track. You could give it to whoever decided to wait 270,000 laps to give Kyle Bidge a penalty. But mine, so mine, and you guys, I don't know, yeah, maybe I guess you guys. are both there early enough. There was a deal going on behind the spotter stand, which one, I have two idiots out of this deal. One,

which one guy's just doing his job. I feel bad calling him an idiot. But man, he was very hyped up. There was a stage back there. I heard a guy holler. This guy, I heard,

it sounded like a full blown rock concert was going on behind me. And I turn around. This guy's hooting and hollering. And there's three people standing there, listening to him. And he is the best hype man in the world. And there's three people standing there talking.

So I don't know who he was talking. to you but my one idiot is the people that he was hyping up because they're over there on pogo sticks doing double back flips and back flips and front flips and i'm like it looks scary i'm like those they are idiots like that looks just like a great way to break your neck and i don't know whoever thought that that was a good idea but yeah no i'm not signing up for that that was y'all should have videoed it oh my god i think hersman might yeah hersch might have but i was like this they were doing i don't i can't even explain to you what it looked like but Every time, like you held your breath because I'm like, oh, they're going to fall on her head.

Didn't make it. But somehow, but I don't think, I don't know how you sign up for extreme pogoing, but I'm not for me. I don't even know how you go that high on a pogo stick. Like they were literally, every time they'd land, I'm like, he's going to wipe out, he's going to wipe out and bounce back up. You know, I don't, I like to keep it. There, not, there wasn't a lot of really bad stuff on the track this week. Like, who'd you have any, Daniel? I'll give it to him.

for about wrecking me into my pit stall in the first pit stop. Sorry about that. You checked up too much. My pit stall was next to last pit stall. Pull left. I did. I was trying to. Do you remember what Jeb said?

Get the fuck out the way. TJ, who he's spying for in the Xfinity series of race this weekend? I was waiting for that question, too. You're just going to ignore it. While I was hoping you'd make your first Xfinity start this week, Jason venturing from the sprint cars. Sorry, I'm not ready yet. I will be sliding over to basically get yelled at for an entire race.

race. Who's going to do your guy? I have my second spotter. His name is Michael Fisher. He's going to... He's my assistant. You never want to have a guy to fill in for you this better than you are. You know what I mean? That's how you get fired. You don't ever want to be replaced by somebody that's better than you are. Like, if you move on and put in there somebody really shit and he's really good.

You screwing me. You're an idiot, Freddie. You're an idiot. I had a crew chief tell me one time they're like, you played this really well. what do you mean? He's like, you got replaced by the worst guy up there. So you sound amazing. You can go back here anytime you want. Yeah, you definitely don't want to do that. But he actually does a good job. So he's filling in for me so I can, you know,

and I'm going to go ahead and tell you, if he gets mouthy, there'll be some, I'll be on Ask Junior next week. I'll send in tons of questions or I'll just turn my radio off. You're talking a big game. Post the 88. No spotter. Can we make this a segment like the before? for the race and after the race, TJ?

If he wants to get mouthy, I'm just turning my... JRM car's been fast. It's a good time to be in the JRM car to short track. Josh Barry? We were one let from passing Josh Barry yesterday right before the end, so I thought that was a pretty good run. Josh Barry is a good short track driver, too. Absolutely.

But yes, I will be... I will be working with El Jr. this weekend. I'm thrilled. A million dollar question. I think I'm going to call. cry. I know. All right. Moving on to DBC picks. T.J. finally didn't drinks a driver

and wins with Denny. Tied for the lead. Look at you go. Yeah, man. Look at that point system. Who goes first? Brett, you are first. Oh, man. Corley-Joy didn't do me any favors.

31st. Come on, Corey. I go first. I will take Martin True X. Junior, Jr. Martinsville. Yeah. Jason. Ryan Blaney. Damn.

I'll go with Eric Jones. That's a good pick. Ready? I will go with... Don't you do it? Bubba Wallace. What? He beat us with Bubba Wallace like two years ago.

Bubble finished like eight. This is the race of shit like that can happen, though. But he didn't run like crap last year and the Denny Hamlet car. So, man, I am going to go with... I can't decide if I want to use this. I'm taking them. I'm going with the one and only Kevin Harvick. There you go.

Got a little momentum. They got a little speed right now. Sorry, Kiv. Hey, what's up, DBC fans? If you haven't heard about Anchor, it's the easiest way to make a podcast. Let us explain. Well, first of all, Freddie, the best part is it's free. There's nothing better than using a free awesome service.

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It better not be 400 miles. If it's 400 miles, I'm not going. It's actually 400 kilometers. I'm not watching 800 laps around that place, Jason. It ain't going to happen. It pays good, but it don't pay that good. Wow, that's a lot.

Can we go back to one idiot? No, shit. I think I literally wrote down miles of my things bring up to you. I just assume every track's miles. Oh, boy. Yeah, I mean, what? So, I mean, we have been asking for shorter race

I don't understand. So we are doing this thing on the couch race or Twitter where we've been doing track brackets. And of course, now we've got down to the finals and the two tracks are Bristol and Martinsville. Everybody has said that they want short tracks. And we want, and we've said maybe shorten some of the races. So now we have taken a short track off the schedule by making it a dirt race. And now we're going to take one of the short tracks and shorten it on her laps. I don't get it.

But whatever. I mean, I think we should shorten all the races. so we start with this one and shorten the rest of them too. But I mean, my goodness, I don't understand sometimes. I think it's cool to actually go to a short track because I know Phoenix is considered to be a short track, but it's just so freaking fast. This one you're actually going to have to slow way down, make the corner, look at potential wheel hopping, be able to beat and bang. We showed in L.A. These cars can take a beating.

And I think this weekend we see just that a beating. One thing to watch out for, though, in these cars, the hits. The slower hits are harder than they were in the last car because the way these cars are built, they don't hit the wall hard enough to actually move the wall and get the energy absorption to start happening. The wall doesn't move with these cars. So when they hit, it's violent on the inside of these cars. So I think if you see guys hitting the wall, I don't think this is going to be one of those places where they can, you know, knock the freaking fender out and come back out and keep digging.

I think when they hit, they're going to be big hits. I, TJ, am probably most excited about this because I was highly entertained at L.A. yeah, I'm excited. Martins was always a good race. I don't, they're so close there. You can't get away from each other. Richmond's high speed. Richmond's pretty fast.

Martinsville, it's hard to hit a guy and get away from, you know, so there's, and we saw some of that yesterday with Ross and Blaney. I don't know if you saw that. They got in a couple times. I'm surprised we didn't talk about it on here, but Ross sent Blaney off down to one. I mean, tire smoking. Do you see that? Yeah, and it was, I guess, Ross also ran him into the law out of four.

So, Martinsville, you're not... Suarez was in a few pissing matches, too. Oh, really? Including one with Brisco. Oh, yeah. To me, Suarez was the only thing that kept the race exciting while I was watching other than the Ross thing happened. Like, Suarez was, he was,

he was like a bull in a china shop. And there's a lot of pressure on that guy. You know, I mean, your teammates already won. Your teammates finishing well. I mean, he didn't finish well yesterday, but he ran well up until the whole strategy thing started trying to kind of like people. I'll tell you what I saw yesterday with, with Ross as well. There was, he has speed, but as soon as he lost three or four spots, it's almost like he hit the panic button and like, oh no, I need to be up there in the top three and I saw him get into

a Blaney. Like, he laid back on a restart with us. And I mean, he's five car lengths back. Like, I'm really surprised they did not say anything about it. And he's diving three wide into one, things like that. And we just forcing things. We saw that a lot when he, drove the 10 car calling you know he had a lot of speed and was in position to win some races but he would make mistakes like that because he felt like he should be leading or or was leading and lost a lead and would make a mistake and get in the fence or or some other mistake there's unnecessary risks here that that you don't need to be it's okay to lose a couple spots on a restart it's okay um i did see like just chill i mean you're going to put yourself in a you're going to get

to a piss and match with somebody and knock your fender and get a flat then you're going to come down pit road and throw away a top 10. But yeah, Martin'sville is going to be awesome. I can't wait. It's probably my favorite racetrack now with other than plate tracks. It's probably my favorite racetrack.

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