Door Bumper Clear - 25 - Eldora, Indy, and the Oriental Garden

Episode Date: July 19, 2016

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Outside, door, bumper, clear of the 18th. Best car I've had here in a long time. You're going to do it. You're going to win it. Right with you. You're clear. Check the flag. You win.

Do you want inside information? You will not be able to repeat it to your kids, but you will learn and you will laugh. Door, bumper, clear is on. Hey, everybody. I'm T.J. Major. Spotter the 88 Cup car. seven Accinity and the 29 truck.

And joining me alone today. Brett Griffin, spotter for Elliot Sadler and Clint Boyer. And we've got our famous fill-in for KB. Producer Josh, hashtag. Whoa, whoa. Where's the... Hey, guys. There's the falsetto voice.

Sorry. What's the, Kristen got a gluten outbreak again? Yeah. She, uh, she binge date some pizza or something with gluten in it. I don't know. Probably. No, she's actually, uh, at a production today.

Yeah. With her Pokemon hunting buddy Natalie. So that'll... They're at Oscar Blues. So they're drinking beers, so she'll be at the emergency room later today. Yeah, pretty much. So, yeah.

Wheat beers. I got to hate to say this because she's not here to defend herself, but I text her on Friday morning because we were going back and forth about some work stuff. And I said, hey, never heard back from you. Are we doing this deal or not doing this deal? She says, I'm in the infield care center. My throat's swelling shut and I'm broken out in hives.

I'm like, Kristen, your lifestyle choices are just terrible right now. And Loudoun, she did that? Yeah, yeah. It's every weekend. That's the fifth time she's been EpiPen that I know about. I hadn't known this girl this long. Wow, I have a daughter with a peanut allergy for six years, and she hasn't had to be EpiPen yet.

Well, that's because she stays away from peanuts. Good Lord, Kristen. Lifestyle choices. No kidding. She needs just a bubble around her. Remember that movie, Bubble boy? Yeah.

Yeah. God, man, we're called bubble girl. We tried to take over her date life. Maybe we need to take over her nutrition as well. We do. What's that show where they come in and hijack here or whatever? Are they intervention or whatever? She needs intervention.

She needs intervention. Yeah. God, her and Johnny Mansell need interventions, man. Yeah. Together. Together. Crazy, man. All right.

What do we got today? Thank Exalta for having the studio for us to do this show in. Yeah, thanks for one Mayne for bringing this to you guys too. Yep, and Exaltas given their website, exaltoracing.com, a fresh coat of paint. To get all the latest news, photos, and schedule for Dale's Exalta number 88, head over to Exaltor Racing.com. Photo galleries, schedule pretty much everything. Everything. Everything. Everything. Everything was in New Hampshire. Hey, I saw, I mean, I've been going to New Hampshire 17, 18 years. I saw the best looking girls up there. I don't know if they imported some stuff. I didn't see any.

I stayed in Meredith, New Hampshire, which I'd never even heard of. It's way north. Like up near Lake Winnipezaki? Like in Canada, basically. Vermont? Yeah, but man, I feel like their talent picked up over the weekend, or either I've just gotten old and my scales going way down. Shoo show or? No, no shoe shows.

Even the track wall and stuff, man. I mean, we're me and Tony Raines. We were sitting out there in the parking lot waiting to go up to the roof, and I was like, man, these girls are wearing Daisy Dukes, you know. doing it that's just they just got up there this year it took them fast in that long took them that long to get up there

so uh yeah I never really I was at the track late every night pretty much so I didn't do much but stop and eat with a couple guys on the way

to the hotel and pretty much go to bed I watched the outlaw race on my computer that's pretty much all I did Kings Royal yeah it's one of my favorite races of the year

three nights a good race and that's awesome I've had to go many of times. So the big news going into New Hampshire, regardless of who you pull for, was Dale Jr. not racing. Yeah. It's our second guy out with a concussion. You might have heard about it. A few weeks. Man, for those of you who don't know what a concussion is, it's when your brain slams into your skull. So it's not like this is a deal you got to take lightly. I mean, this is a big deal.

Yeah, and especially, you know, we've just had some bad luck, and, you know, we've been in some three weeks of consecutive little jolts kind of, you know, Michigan, Sonoma. So, you know, it's right for him to, beg of him to step up and say, hey, I need to get, I need to make it, get myself right before I go back and do this again. And there's a lot of people that wouldn't have done that or that don't ever say anything about it. So, you know, good for him to stand up and put himself first, you know, and do the right thing. Do the right thing about it. Yeah, there's a lot of people that football players get concussions on a play,

and they come right back in thinking they're going to make a play on the next play and maybe take another hit and make it way worse. So, you know, he's doing the right thing. And, you know, Alex came in there. And, you know, Alex came in. You know, he was a little timid at first. Yeah. I don't, you know, he has run a cup season before, but he's a little timid at first.

But when the race started, I kind of, you know, I told everybody I thought it would take it to about halfway through the first run for him to get acclimat. rid of all the, you know, when you start racing, that's when everything kind of leaves your mind. Yeah. You kind of, you kind of just, oh, man, I'm racing. You know, you just want to pass the guy in front of you. So I think it was going to take until that part of the weekend to really get him comfortable in the car.

And once he did, he did good. And he took off and really consistent and aggressive on restarts when he needed to be. The couple guys pushed him around because they knew they could. They went in there. Harvick went in there the first time he tried to pass us. and we were already out. We were outside him. He just went to the third groove with us outside of him.

You know, you expect a little bit of that. But Alex handled it really well. The car basically had no scratches until... Did you see what happened to us? Did he cut a tire with the 41 or he cut a tire before that? No, what we were doing is we were in the top 10 and we were coming out of our stall. The 19 was pitted in front of us.

And the 13 came in late behind him and had him jammed up. So he was trying to back up to get out. of his stall and we were coming out of ours and backed into our left rear. Oh. And it wrinkled our fender in to where it was rubbing. And we, the five looked at it and said he, you know, look, it's rubbing a little bit, but we

left rear you're not, you know, really, really, you know, wasn't, it was bad a little bit, but we thought it might clearance itself because that's not a huge tire to get down there, you know, that's not drive another corner and stuff. But, and then it finally blew into turn one there. But he was doing a great job. And

and it would have been awesome to come out. I think we had a shot at a top 10. Yeah, for sure, for sure. It was also cool, all the support from all the other drivers for Dale and for Alex. Yeah. That was a big weekend. It showed really good sportsmanship. Yeah.

You know, it's a, I think Dodgers are really, really respected driver in the sport with how he handles all the, you know, situations that we've had been in the past. You know, he handles him most time as the high road. You know, there's been times where we've been times where, We've had bad cars dealt to us, and he still takes the high road out of it, and I think that goes a long way. Anytime you're in our sport and you're an industry guy, you don't want the news to be that Tony Stewart's out of the car,

Dell Jr's out of the car, you know, Kyle Bush is out of the car. You want the news to be about what happens on the racetrack, because when it's about somebody's health, man, that's serious. It's a whole different ballroom. So we all hope he gets well soon and that he literally takes the time needed to do that. And does it come back too early? Yeah, absolutely. I mean, we all need him here.

but we don't need him back too soon either. So Harvick finished fourth and has negative talk about his pit crew. We're going into spot-on, spot-off? Oh, I skipped down there, sorry. Yeah, I was just reading. Yeah, we'll go into spot-on. Well, let's talk about more. Did you, what you think about the Xfinney race?

Or the modified race. Did you watch any of that? No, I don't watch you much. How do you not watch that race? It's one of the best races. It was one of the best races until they changed the engine rule, and now they're not passing for the lead like they used to. The first two guys were checked out and gone.

I like to watch. That's because there was a halfway break and they weren't going to use their tires up back there. I used to watch to modify stuff, but they've changed the rules and now it's not as competitive as it was. It's still pretty competitive. It's still pretty good. I mean, it's a good race, but no, man, I watched enough race in New Hampshire this weekend. Exfinity race was, I think we're got, I'm going to go out of limb here and say we've got rule changes coming to how many Xfinity races they let these full-time Cup drivers run. I think next year.

I think next year in 2017, and it's unfortunate the legs to which those rule changes are coming because Clint pointed out during the cup race, it is very obvious that JGR has something that nobody else has. Now, there are things you can get from working hard in your shop and tricks you can find that nobody else knows about and it takes a while to catch up. But there's things like motor where you have more horsepower than everybody else. That's not something that we're going to be able to overcome. So it's obvious to me, JGR does have an advantage.

What it is, I don't know if we knew what it was. We'd all be trying to catch it. But sometimes your box for what you can do with engines does not allow you to catch up, right? So whatever's going on with JGR, they're light years ahead of what it looks like to be everybody else. Pretty much everywhere we go. At one point in the race, the cup race, the top four cars were JGR cars, the Xfinity race. Top three cars were JGR cars. So whatever they're doing, they're getting ready to see a rule change about Cup drivers in the Xfinity series.

if they're running for cup points, I'm hearing it's coming next year. Yeah, I just hope, you know, I hope it's, you know, I find it hard to believe that they've found something mechanically working on the car, engineering, something like that. I find it hard to believe that they've, you know, outdone everybody that much in that area. So you think it's more motor or something along those? I don't know.

I just don't, you know. It's just amazing because every race that he is in, We're referencing Kyle Bush. Yeah, but it's not just Kyle. I mean, it's JGR in general. Yeah, but. For Saturday, JGR, the difference is it's Kyle and then it's, you know, Eric Jones and Daniel Sores.

Well, if you put Carl Edwards and Matt Kenseth and those other two cars, it would be all three of them checked out and gone. I mean, the difference is Kyle's experience versus those other two guys' experience, but their cars in both series are still superior. I mean, Martin True X is part of the JGR stable. Right. Make no mistake about that. His chassis are built there.

His bodies are hung there. He's getting the same motors those guys are getting. So it just, it's going to be a struggle for me when they make this rule change because a guy like Casey Cain, Kevin Harvick, Brad Caslowski, Kyle Busch, those guys in the Xfinity series attract sponsorship. And without sponsorship, this model simply doesn't work. We're not the NFL. We're not the NBA. It'll hurt the series if they make a rule change. And it's a big one.

I've heard all kinds of things, so I guess we'll just have to wait and see. Yeah, who knows? All right. What else happening? Josh, you're supposed to be running this show. What else happened up there? Well, I mean, y'all, I didn't know y'all were done. If you let T.J. start running it.

It's going to get ready to get all over the place. Let's go to spot on. Remember that time we had a call-in show, and we were going to call people, and they were going to ask us a question, and we called them, and T. And we called them and T. ask her question for him right yeah you got to take over here man i'll call and ask questions i can do that all day all right so moving into spot on spot off cow bush wins an sp for best driver tj um you look excited right now yeah i don't need what to think about that do i think he's the best driver i don't think he's the best driver i don't think he's the best driver but do i think he's one of

the best yes i think we won an esp for being best driver so well congrats you know spot on for a Spot on for one of our guys getting an SP for driving his tail off. Yeah. I mean, no doubt. Kyle Busch right now is the best driver in two areas that I see. Number one is restarts. Number two is maneuvering traffic. Those things are very important to getting good finishes.

So spot on for this award, man. He deserved it and he brought it home to ultimately the NASCAR community. So that's cool. Spot on, spot off. Kevin Harvick finishes fourth and then talks negative about his pick crew. Spot off for me. You know, the guy is a champion. He is going to be in the championship conversation this year.

He also has fast cars. He's always been hard on his pit crew. And maybe that's why they consistently struggle is because of confidence. Maybe if he would loosen up on him a little bit, or maybe he needs to go drive the car at pit practice, or maybe he needs to go work out with him. If you tell me he's doing everything to make that team the best it can be, then I'll accept that I'm wrong.

But if he's MFing them on the radio after a bad stop here there, it shakes some guys up, man. I mean, I've played sports. I've been kicked in the, you know, whaters, you know, I've had to say and kicked on me by the third base coach in baseball.

And next time you come up to Batman, you're not 100% there. So I realize these guys have a job to do there, paid well to do it. But sometimes when you think you're motivating them, you're beating them down and you're getting the exact opposite. Yeah, spot off for that.

Could you imagine maybe the spotter, crew chief for some of the crew guys to start keying up if he misses a corner or something and, you know, hey dude, what are you doing up there? You know, or something like that. If he makes a mistake on the racetrack, maybe they start keying up. I'm going to go ahead and say that probably won't last very long,

but that's essentially what he's doing. I mean, you know, there's, those guys all, every single crew member on pit road makes a mistake once in a while. It's just part of it. It's human element. Yeah, it's part of it. You're not going to have robots.

Maybe we don't have robots that run the same, time everybody when you pay i mean just that's part of it and you finish fourth i mean yeah i i just don't i don't think it's right to degrade anybody on the radio like that or on tv or on tv or anything like that man those guys are there when you screw up and you know you when you wreck three other cars and you have three teams coming there to whip your guy you know those guys are going to be there fighting for you protecting you you keep doing stuff like that you're not they're not they're not they're not going to want to work with you or have your back in situations i just don't think, and I don't have a lot of data right in front of me to support this comment,

but I remember him swapping a lot of pit crews in the chase. I remember him swapping a lot of crew guys when we were at RCR together around on the pit crews. Man, it just seems like sometimes you got to weather the storm a little bit and support your guys and lift them up and get better with them and give them the opportunity to get better with you and not just MF them because it's easy to go off. I mean, but if society as a whole right now, Bobby Knight would not. make it as a basketball coach anymore ever like and that used to be the way i mean that was the way i grew up playing sports you know coaches got in your butt man now they can't so it's almost like hey you got a

bunch of 18 to 25 year old guys that are on your team and and they're not used to that and and you can rattle them if they have a bad stop and you come on and just chew their ass you can you can you can rattle them for the rest of the day and you got three hours of pit stuff left to do you know yeah when somebody makes mistake man pick them up yeah shake it off now if this is is going on all day. Consistently. That's a different conversation, but it still isn't necessarily the one to have over the radio.

So, you know, quarterback Tom Brady, throws three interceptions, has a bad day. Yeah. I mean, you think his wide receivers are going to? Yeah, you think they're going to go in there and say, hey, this quarterback sucks. He's got to go. Yeah, right. I mean, relax, man. Yeah.

And say, hey, you know, he made a couple bad reads. Yeah. For the most part, all of these teams have team meetings on Tuesdays. And those team meetings typically consist of the, crew chief, the engineer, the driver, and a team manager. Sometimes a spotter will go in depending on what they're talking about. But that's the right time to be discussing that stuff. Not, you know, don't kick the guy while he's down.

Right. Yeah. I promise you he's pissed off. He messed up. So that's a universal spot off. Yeah. All right. So spot on, spot off, team Penske and Joe Gibbs locked into the 2016 Cup chase.

Spot off for me because I'm not on Team Penske or Team Gibbs. Yeah. So I can't, you know, obviously that's a big success story for those two organizations. They're both running well. I think that they're certainly in the championship conversations, but it doesn't excite Brett Griffin at this time. Yeah. I mean, spot on for those teams that have worked hard and, you know, got this far and performed

well enough to get locked in. You know, congrats for those guys. Big accomplishment. Yep. Spot on, spot off. Col Custer. T.J., who are you worried about getting locked into the chase? I'm hoping we make the chase.

Yeah. And that's the thing. You know, we certainly respect other teams and we want to see our friends do well. I got a lot of friends at Gibbs, a few friends at Penske. It's awesome for those guys. But, you know, I want to see my team do well at the end of the day. I'm only on one team. I'm only part of one organization.

And I'm part of an organization all week. And I'm part of the team all weekend. But the last fuel run, I'm worried about my guy. I'm worried about my car. You know, there's only so. You can only be so nice in the sport if you really want to make it. I will say, you know, I'm looking forward to racing to get into the chase and hopefully make it in.

You know, hopefully we can go and win a race and get locked in. Because we have some decent tracks. We've been successful in the chase. And if we get a, you know, we go there and execute like we should be able to. We should be racing at Homestead. Yeah. But, you know, there's also, you know, the element, you know, a lot of these guys when they, like, when they get knocked out, like, they're going to, they're going to be rolling the dice.

and be even harder to beat the guys that aren't in, they get knocked out because they're going to be rolling the dice. They're going to be going for wins only. Yeah. They don't care about points at that point. They're going to be stretching fuel. They're going to be taking two tires a lot more than the other guys. So you look at a guy like Tony Stewart who took a pretty large break in his career.

You look at Kyle Busch. They both came back in one. Well, they came back in one for two reasons. Number one, they're in a fast car. But number two, they got a fresh perspective and only one agenda. Dale Jr. is going to come back with that. that same thing. Yeah, that's, I'm, you know, I'm looking forward to that.

And, you know, we can, we can just be aggressive and go after it. Yeah. You know, you've got a guy, you've got a guy that's sitting, you know, 12, 13 of the points. It's within striking distance, still are the other guys. Yeah. He's going to be point racing. For sure.

So, and we don't have, we're, point racing for us will be. It's over. You got to win. Yeah, we're going for it. Yeah. So. All right. Well, spot on, spot off.

Cole Custer in the one main truck at El Dora. Man, this is definitely spot on. One main is obviously bringing this podcast. guys a great partner to junior motor sports their debut as a primary in the truck series with cole they've been in the truck series before with elliott finished second at detona a couple years ago when michael waltrop half his spoiler fell off i know tj remembers that but i'm a i really enjoy being a fan of the sport at this particular race man i'll go out and ice down some cold beers cook a good steak on the grill sit back in the living room man just watch it tweet tweet my ass off

make everybody mad on the internet yeah that's you know i went to the race last year here and work with Tyler. Tyler's a really, really good dirt racer. Tyler Redick is. Did he come from dirt racing? Yeah. He came from dirt racing. So I'm looking really forward to watching him. The schedule just didn't work out for me to get there, you know, and get to Indian stuff. So I'm going to hopefully sit at home and watch. You come to my house, I cook a good steak. I've seen. You could have gone up there with Ron. Ron went up to today. Ron LaMastor. Yeah, see, I can't leave on a Tuesday. It would cost me.

The reason is it would cost me more money. It would cost me more money to go on a Tuesday or Wednesday in kids watching fees than it would. You know what I mean? Economics. Yeah, but spot on for Cole,

I'm sure he'll be exciting. Yeah. We're going to take a quick break. We'll be right back for TJ's favorite. Fastling. Hey, Junior Nation. Now more than ever, exclusive, entertaining, and free content

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its newest and most versatile way yet to plug directly into the world of Earnhardt, anytime, anywhere. All right, so we're going to move into... Hey, guys, go to Rital. Fast lane. And for those of you who do not know what Fast Lane is, we're going to give TJ and Brett a topic to debate. Each one gets 30 seconds,

and then the one that went first gets the... What is it, TJ? Rope. Rupottle? Yep, for another 30 seconds. Anyways. All right. How much does the amount of information given

from a spotter to a driver change when you have a sub-driver, TJ? Actually, I try to do everything that I normally would have done, but you do a little bit extra. Normally, you try to, you have to coach a guy a little bit around other people. Like, you know, Alex, you know, you want to be aggressive and not that Kevin Hartwick. You don't want him to be, oh, here, that guy, you know, Cup champion, go ahead and go, go, go, go. You want to race him and make him earn it still to a certain point, but you don't want to hit him. You don't want to make him mad.

And, you know, ruffles people's feathers. too much. We pretty much all say the same things in traffic. I think when you have a veteran driver that's been to a racetrack multiple times, they know where to lift, they know how their car needs to fill in the center, they know where they need to be on the gas and exit. When you have a younger guy, you have to give them a lot more insight into where they're getting beat and some things they can try inside the car to compensate for that. So the biggest difference is how experienced is the guy you're subbing for and how good of a spotters he had in the past? Because all of us aren't that good. Some of us are, some of us aren't.

Yeah, I text Alex after the race and told him he did a good job. And, you know, it's, I can adjust. It's hard to adjust to a younger guy. And, you know, it's harder for a younger guy to tell an older guy else, you know, what they want to do or whatever. It's harder. That would be hard, but Alex wasn't like that. You know, I sent him a text after the race and told Alex to be, like, I know I'm no Doug Campbell, but, you know, someday I hope to be.

Well, hopefully he doesn't have your Facebook pass. word like he did Doug's either. That's a story for another episode. Yes. Okay, Matt Kenseth wins at New Hampshire, but fails post-race inspection. Should the race winner be allowed to keep the win if the car fails? The question is, should he be allowed to keep the win? The answer for me is no.

I talked to Randy told him about this. He used to race trucks back in the Craftsman Truck Series a while ago, and he said Bill France wanted everybody to know who the winner was, when they left, which is why if you win the race, they let you keep the win. They hand down penalties, but they let you keep the win. But I go with no, we shouldn't let this guy keep the win. Yeah, I'm the same way. I don't, they tech the car after the race to make sure you were legal to, you know,

who's to say they didn't do something on a pit stop anything? Who knows? Why even tech after the race? Well, why do we have tech after the race if the wins are going to stand no matter what? If you don't pass tech, you're not legal. You don't finish the race there. If we're worried about people knowing who won when they left, guess what? Everybody has a smartphone now.

Everybody's on Facebook. They're on Twitter. We can communicate to them who should have won. There's no way you should take home the trophy, take home all the sponsor exposure, and take home the extra chase points and the advantage of having a multi-win season. And look, if this was this guy's first win, he's now in the chase. It wasn't his first win. but if he was his first win, he's in the chase and he doesn't even belong there.

He's not the real winner. Yeah. One quick thing. One quick thing to add to this is we should, you know, they should take the win away and you should have to like start in the rear next week or something. There should be more than just the trophy because their other teams should have deserved to celebrate. Yes. You know, and get their pitchers all taking and stuff.

But if you cheat and you get thrown out, there should be more repercussions than just There should be, you know, last pit stall pick for the next two races or something. And this LIS, which stands for a laser inspection station, if you're failing that, man, you're, you've done something and you have an advantage. If you've not been involved in an accident, which you can't prevent, you know, we saw that with Sam Hornish, who was in an accident in the Xfinity Series on Pit Road with the seven. It gave him an error advantage. But if there's no accident and justification for it, you got to take the win away. It's just, and I feel like team owners and sponsors and drivers and everybody should be jumping up and down saying it's not right anymore because there's too much on the line for a win now. It's not 1980.

All right, the NASCAR Camping World Truck Series returns to Eldora Speedway this Wednesday. In your opinion, will it be a dirt racer or an asphalt racer who takes a check flag? T.J. My opinion, it will be a dirt racer just because they will be more aggressive. they will be faster, but it's going to only work that way if they can all keep the right side on the truck for most of the, for their whole race. You could have a guy like Matt Crathen. He's going to roll around the bottom every single lap, and if they reckon of, he's going

to take advantage of it, which is what he does a lot. He's a smart driver, but in the end, I think you're going to have a dirt driver. I think you'll have a Christopher Rubell or Tyler Redick up there winning the race. Kyle Larson, one of those. So Larson is in it. Larson's in it. Larson's in it. RICO's in it.

I'd love to see. Oh, Rico, too. I'd love to see Larson or Rico win this thing. You're going to see a dirt driver win this race, period. You're not going to see a guy with an asphalt background. I will say this. What we've seen in years past, it's gotten harder and harder to pass later in the race. The groove tends to get a lot more single file up against the wall.

No, Tony and his guys are working hard. If they have a great racetrack here, 100% going to see a dirt racer win. And that's the way it needs to be is that groove right there. If we have these guys flying around the bottom, everybody hooked up, we are not going to see any passing. When they run that close to the wall, there's room for... They're very little room for... They call it the cushion.

Yeah, when they run the cushion, which the wall is basically the cushion at that place. So there's very little room for air. So when you do that, it's a great race. And if you're anywhere within driving this thing, you need to go because it's a full day of racing, and it's going to be a lot of fun. All right, before the Xfinity Series started racing

at Indianapolis Matter Speedway, they raced at Indianapolis Raceway Park. Do you feel like the Xfinity Series should return to the short track, or was it the right move to send the series up to the big track? It certainly was the right move to send the series to the big track. It puts the Xfinity Series on one of the largest venue platforms in all of motorsports. However, we left one of the best short tracks in the country to do it. Yeah, that was one of my favorite races all the year.

I've watched a lot of races there where guys ran side-by-side lap after lap, and you just don't get out there to the big track. Big track's awesome because of the prestige, and, you know, it's the brickyard. So I really, you can't beat short track racing, man. The guys are close. They can't get away from each other as easily. They are, you know, rooting and gouging and stuff.

Why, that's where we need to be. One of the best races I ever saw was Brian Vickers against Shane Mill at IRP. And, man, they put on a heck of a show. We 100% still need to be at that racetrack. Cup has an off weekend in August. There's no reason that shouldn't be a truck, Xfinity, companion race back in August, NIRP. It's a big deal that they're on the big stage in Indy,

but they need to be on this little stage because it is a lot better show than some of the places we're going. All right, the off-the-wall topic, Nate Ebner, who is the New England Patriots Safety, has been selected as part of the U.S. rugby team for the Rio Olympics. If you were the Patriots organization,

do you let him compete? rugby after all can be even more brutal than football well here's the thing you know Nate Ebner has a contract and in his contract he has some things that he's not allowed to do the question is does this fall under that do they even have the legal right to step in and say hey Nate we're not going to let you do this it may say he can't skydive he can't on a motorcycle you know he can't go in strip clubs and make it rain because he may get tackled by all the shoe show veterans in there. But the question for me is,

does he have the parameters to, do they have the parameters to even say yes or no? If he plays for the Patriots, he's absolutely allowed to go in my eyes. I'm a Bill's fan, so I think Tom Brady should go over there and play rugby. That's it?

I'm done. I think, man, the Olympics is such a prestigious offering. And if he's not afraid of Zika, dude, get on a plane and go do it. Go get it. I think I got Zika this weekend. I've never had some of any mosquitoes around me in my life so I did in New Hampshire.

I think some of them have gone in, man. They're all behind my legs on my ankles. Well, dude, you were out there putting on a dance show. No. This was outside. That was inside. I know. Well, that too.

There was some dancing outside. No. I didn't dance outside. If I was dancing. You and Justin did a little bit. That was inside. It started a little bit outside, I think. Just a couple moves.

And it went inside. That was me trying to get the mosquitoes off my legs. He just looked like I was dancing. I was doing that, what's that river dance stuff? God almighty a mosquito is. It's crazy. Crazy. Crazy.

I didn't move into. Shouldn't wear them Daisy Dukes. That's a lobster. Lobster. You didn't have them Daisy Dukes, I knew it would have been better. Yeah. What I figured out is our friends at Sprint know exactly where to go to have a good time and a good meal. Oh, yeah.

You know, so we went out to some place called town docks for dinner, and then some pizza place turned into a karaoke bar around 9 o'clock. Is that where your picture was from right there on the river? A pizza place that turns into a karaoke bar. Yeah. Don't you like that? Yeah, there used to be a Chinese place up there. To turn it to a dance club.

Yeah, you remember the name of it? Yeah, I don't remember that. It was the Oriental Garden. Was that what it's called? Yeah, it was right across from the hotel where we used to stay. That was like eight years ago. It was a long time ago. Yeah.

Any Chinese place that turns into anything other than a Chinese buffet is going to be fun. Yeah. It was a full-blown nightclub. Yeah. So actually. How was the food? We didn't eat there. A year ago, Blake came into New Hampshire.

This isn't a secret. It was Oliver TV. Blake came in New Hampshire. We went to dinner in downtown. They say Concord, weird. Cockett, New Hampshire. And so he's like, man, I want to sing karaoke. So I find a karaoke bar that was a Chinese restaurant in a basement right on Main Street in

Kakit. And it ended up all of. over TMZ. Oh. And here was my fat ass sitting in the background on the couch, talking to the karaoke DJ. That was not part of the plan, but nonetheless. Still fun, probably. It's hard to imagine that New Hampshire can be fun because it just doesn't sound like a

fun place. Yeah. But we've made a fun. Manchester is not that bad. Manchester. Yeah. For anyone who's never been to New Hampshire, which is everybody that's listening. That accent is a little rough.

It is. It's different. It's different for sure. Man, go to New Hampshire. Just load up and go up there. I think it's a great racing weekend, too, by far. Yeah. Modified, East Series, Exfini Series, Cup Series.

You cannot beat. You got full days of racing. Yeah. So. They get after. I think the majority of people are from New Hampshire and from Maine. Right. Yeah.

They love their racing too, man. It's good up there. I've never been to Maine, but I've got to go. Yeah, I've never been to Maine. For what? For something? What's up there? I just got to check it off the list.

More mosquitoes? You want to get hit by more mosquitoes? I got to check it off the list, man. I know a lot of good people from Maine, so I think they're my kind of people. But what are you going to do there? There can't be anything to do. There's water. Yeah, there's a river that goes up north of it.

There's a big-ass ocean on the east side of it. Okay, so you're telling me that you're going to go up there. I mean, it's got to be colder. Are there whales out there? I'm sure there are. It's an ocean, maybe. Yeah. Great whites.

We can go whale watching. I actually think I saw a couple whales at the racetrite. some narwhales we saw it all at the racetrack in New Hampshire New Hampshire you know what it is fun about New Hampshire though it's really close to Boston Boston is a great town

but the traffic oh yeah the traffic sucks but it's a great town it is great town the people are nice like they're in the south yeah the ones I've been around I've always enjoyed enjoyed going up there it's always a it's always fun

and Boston is pretty cool I went on a whale watch there one time in school yeah the voyage of the Mimi How far of a trip was that? It was a long way. No kidding. We busted all the way from western New York over to Boston.

Yeah. Six hours, seven hours? No way, no. It's more than that. We're leaving like Buffalo area here. It was just like a month long trip. We backpacked. I think it was like eight or nine hours, something like that.

One way? Yeah. Jesus Christ. Did you see the whale? Did you see the whale? Yeah, we saw some whales. I ate two hot dogs on the boat and got seasick, so Don't do that again.

But, yeah, we saw some whales and went to the cheers. Oh, yeah, I went to cheers when I was there. Yeah, the original one got beer at cheers. I'm in the Fenway a few times. See, I've never been. Yeah, Fenway, I walked right by it. It's pretty neat. Awesome venue.

Pretty neat. I feel like I'm in the 60s, man. Just awesome venue. I've seen the Yankees play the Red Sox there twice. I went and saw Miranda Lambert and. Jason Aldeen do a concert there. It's phenomenal. It's hard to beat Boston. I'm not a huge baseball fan, but you know, I don't even think the Pirates are my favorite

team, but I used to, I would get on eye racing way back. This is right when I first started. You know who's an investor in it? John Henry. Yeah, yeah. So I would get on there, and he would be in there racing. Right. He's got a whole complete setup for racing on eye racing. And we would get in there, and he knew me from hiring all the guys they hired to start that I knew from the previous game. Yeah.

And he knew of me, and he would actually, we would message back and forth a little bit in there, and he'd be like, hey, how's your day? You know, I'm like, this is John Henry. And he's actually racing Legends cars on eye racing for fun. That's awesome. Yeah. So, I mean, that's. He's worth a little bit of money.

Yeah. Yeah. He's funny. I mean, it was enjoyable and fun to do. Yeah. Let's do some questions, Josh. Yeah, what do you got? The hashtag SDBC.

I bet these suck. All right. Well, anyways, back to the show. We've chosen the best or funniest five hashtag ask DBC questions. The guys here today are going to answer them. At DMH underscore 13 asks, what differences are there in spotting in the three different series? Prefer one over the other. This is all, T.J, because I only do two series. Oh, man.

I do the Arka series, too. Does that count? Does that make it four? So I'm out. That's four. You're definitely in. It just depends on the driver. And ARCA, you, it's,

Arc is tough. You go and you have a lot of cars that are, that are, you have a handful of cars that you're going to pass every five laps. And there's nothing you can do about it, but you try to prepare more for that. You know, the truck series, there's a, truck series is close racing.

Like, you're, and you're real, real air sensitive on the doors, probably more so than cup cars or there's affinity cars. You've got to be real careful with that stuff. So you try to work with the driver a little bit more. And he knows most of that. then you get to the Xfinity series, and Exfini in a cup are real close. You know, the drivers are similar, and you probably use, unless you have a rookie driver, then you're a little more talkative and stuff.

But, you know, usually the lower the series, the more work you have to do. Yeah. All right. At XS. Thoughts asks, is it harder for a driver to learn a new spotter or a spotter to learn a new driver? I thought it was more important for the driver to learn the spotter until I started spotting for Clint Boyer, who is a good friend of mine but has a high amount of ADD. So he requires a lot of information and a lot of talking compared to some of the other guys I had done. Certainly I've adapted and we've had some success and won some races and finished second of championship the year Brad Keselowski won it.

So, you know, you have to be willing to adapt to do the spotting role. And the role has changed so much in the 17 years that I've been here. and it's only made our role more important versus where it was when I started. So like I said earlier, for the most part, we're all saying the same things. It's just a question of how quickly can you deliver it and have the driver and make it help them. Yeah, I think the experience level of the driver and how long he's been around matters too, though. I mean, if he's been around a long time, you're probably going to have to adjust to him a little bit. if he's already, you know, if you were to go and spot for a guy that won a championship before

and already knows the ins and outs, he's probably going to tell you what he likes to hear a little bit. You're going to have to adjust to him, but if you've also been around a little while, he's probably going to have to adjust to you a little bit too because you can't change. You can't just change. You can adjust a little bit, but you can't just change the way you spot for just like that. Because certain situations, it's automatic when it comes up. Yeah. You see something.

We automatically have our sayings. for what we do and you know and it's hard to sit there and like wait a minute this guy wants to hear this yeah you don't have time to tj's point also if you're a driver that's been around a long time and you've had a spotter for a long time and he wasn't a very good one and you get a guy who is you actually are like wow i've been missing a lot of information that could have helped me navigate traffic find quicker lines be a better plate racer you know we're not all the same up there. We're saying the same things, but we're not saying it at the same times. And we certainly can coach a lot different. I mean, I've had a lot of veteran drivers that I've spotted one race for

or multiple races for that were like, wow, I wasn't getting this much information, or I didn't know that you guys could see this, or, man, you help a lot more with the runs in a plate track. And I think that's where as a spotter, you have to differentiate yourself. There's only 40 of us in the world on a Sunday. So it's a very elite job. I'm not saying it's. It's a famous job. It's not. It's not a high-paying job, but it's an elite job to acquire. So if you get in there and you have a niche and you're just a little bit better than the other 39 guys or 30 other guys,

it makes you have a staple in the sport for a long time. Probably closer to 15. So wait, one is this. But there's a lot better guys up there than they used to be. Oh, yeah, absolutely. So Scott Riggs one time, a long time ago, told me, I respond for him, and I said, all right, caution's out, wave him off behind you. This is before when you can see the hand waving in the mirror real good. Right.

That's something you do. When the caution comes out, you get your hand up in case the other guy might be talking on his radio or somebody might. He doesn't get the message right away. You wave your hand for him to slow down. It's like going down the highway. You see somebody raise their arm, whatever. You know, they're even saying thank you or hey, they're checking up. Well, it's their version of a brake light.

Yeah, so I said, all right, caution's out, wave him off behind you. He comes on there all mad. He's like, oh, so I want to hear his caution's out. So I was like, okay. So I might have told you before. So we got wreck. We were involved in a wreck a little bit later. and we were spinning down the front stretch at Phoenix

as soon as he stopped, I'd say, Cautions Out. You know, I didn't figure that was nice. You know, I was mad because he was, he didn't say, hey, man, just say, you know, cautions, I don't need to rat. He was like real. There's a way to say it and a way not to do it. Right. Yeah. Good question.

All right. Ed Craig Chevalier asked, if you could change lives with someone, who would you rather be Derek Jeter or Justin Timberlake? Oh. Oh. That's a good one. Craig Chavillier. I think it's an A, not year. I want to be Justin Timberlake because he can sing and dance.

There's no, at no point in my life have I ever said, man, I really want to be Derek Jeter. Nah, it's not happened, it's not going to happen. I want to be Justin Timberlake. Who's got more money? I don't know. I mean, Derek Jeter has gotten paid. Yeah. I bet you Justin Timberlake is a $70 million a year guy.

I mean, what do you think is net worth is? 70 million times 20. No way. Dude, Justin Timberlake is killing it. I'll get Timberlake. I bet Timberlake gets 2 million a show right now. Really? Two million.

Yes. I have people that I know that make a million, and he's a lot bigger than they are. Justin Timber. Yeah, we're going to the trustful World Wide Web. Justin Timberlake net worth. So anyway, T.J., who do you want to be? Or you don't know until you look up in the financials.

230 million. That's what who's worth? Justin Timberlake. That's what he's worth. I've got 175 right here on Justin's... This is a celebrity net worth, so you know it's legit. Okay, what's the other one? Yeah, you and DJ are only 50 million apart on your guesses.

That's, it's probably going to not matter at that level. They don't know. Yeah, they don't know. But, okay, a guy's worth. So at $250 million, does it really matter? Is your lifestyle going to change at $250? Money doesn't buy happiness, but it does buy a BMW, and I've never seen anybody sad in a BMW.

I know Derek Jeter's signing like a $200-something million contract. $185 million. I'm just a Timberlake. I can dance too. Andy can dance. He's in movies. He's in movies, can dance. He's got it all going on, man.

He dated Britney Spears. Yeah. Justin Timberlake's got a pile more money than Derek Jeter's got. Yeah. And he can dance. Yeah, you just, I forgot he's even in movies. He does. He's decent and a couple.

Dude, that's $15 million a pop for a guy like that. Plus, Derry Jeter had to give half his money to other people. Yeah. And he was involved in some sketchy stuff. Some of the roids? Yeah. Pretty much. Yeah.

I've been working out. I wonder if I could. How much do you make per movie? Per movie? I've only been in one music video and I got to. six-pack of beer out of it. Hey. I didn't get anything for being in Matthew.

Matthew Good's video a one time ago. Yeah, we had this garden on them. We chased around and stuff. It was fun. Good question, though. All right. At Keith Dishman asked, what do you think about having a podium

celebration for places one through three? Still do the hat dance for first. Basically, like IRL does it? I think we should do it. I think we should stop every single one of them on the front stretch and set it up. on the front stretch. I do.

I think they should put it on the front. Like Martinsville, Martin'sville Victory Lane is awesome because it's right there. No fans leave. They all hang out there and watch it because it's literally 30 feet from where they're at.

And I think it would be awesome for them to have some of the drivers right there, the top three right there, you know, celebrating, you know. It works really good. You've seen the crowd at Formula One races where they are standing. They are lined up 100 deep

to see that podium. Yeah, it's cool. So our current process is first place goes to Victory Lane. Second through fifth place is held on pit road for media obligations. And then the highest finishing rookie is sent to the media center, as is second and third to the media center. So we don't have anything like this. And I don't know why.

It's a really good question as to why we don't have it. I'm certainly not opposed to it. We just have our little system we've always done. I think more importantly, we've got to make sure the hat dances for the guy deserves to win the race. Yeah, absolutely. The winning team gets to celebrate. You know, they get to go and roll their car in there and, you know,

and spray the champagne and all that. That's another obstacle for us because it's going to take time to determine is this guy worthy of the win? And we're so TV-driven. But again, I don't have an issue with you stripping him after the fact because you do have, in the 60s, and 80s, you didn't necessarily have the way to communicate to people. hey, this guy didn't win the race until Monday afternoon when they got their paper from the Charlotte Observer. Are they listening to Benny Parsons on Fast Talk?

You know, like now, everything is right now. So when we know, I'm sitting on the plane already and I get the text, the tweet, you know, Matt Kinzell's pre-pray, post-race inspection, his car is going back to R&D Center. And I'm like, oh, this is big. I mean, still keeps the win. He keeps the win. And if it's his first win, he still keeps the chase berth. And you find him 100%.

And you find him 100 grand, and guess what? It doesn't matter. He may have a million-dollar bonus kicker for making the chase in his sponsorship contract. So that alone was subsidized to find. It just, and I'm, T.J.'s been a driver. I've never, you know, driven professionally, but he drove. It's not the driver's fault. The car is illegal.

He's going to possibly know some things are going down. But when you see a car doing things after they've won, like a suspicious. burnout or backing into the wall or swerving repeatedly. That's when they're in the know of things they've got to correct. Yeah, I know, like, I drove the dash series, which is a stepping stone for there. I mean, I didn't, the shop wasn't near here. It wasn't right close to here. When I would go to South Boston and I got out literally around a late model and

dash car that night and I got out of the late model and was getting right in the dash car, I had no, nothing to do with that car other than until I got in. it. I got a light model ran over the dash car, strapped in. I had nothing to do with that car up until that point. So the driver a lot of times has, they don't have any, they don't turn a wrench on that car. You know, they're not the ones working on it

and stuff, so it's hard to I don't know. I would like to see, I don't think it's fair though for them to keep the window. All right, TJ, we're going to go first with you on this because I think this is what you say, your verbiage. B

underscore verba asks. Who would do better over the course of a full season? One bar driver in a top car or top driver in a one bar car? Set the analogy up, though. Like, explain what this means. So we use a terminology instead of going off on people on the radio. And if somebody makes a bad decision or races like a tool, I call them a one bar. It's like a cell phone signal.

When you get around a guy with one bar, you might drop your call. You might get wrecked. So I usually refer to driver. as one bar, sometimes when I'm not pleased with what the moves they make on the track. So who would be a one bar driver in a top car? I don't know, but right now, a one bar driver in a top cup car. You normally don't have that because normally they don't get to that point, you know, but you have... Who's a driver you call a one bar driver right now?

I mean, I've probably called them all one bar. It's one point or another. So if you put Josh Wise in the 88 car versus Jimmy Johnson and Josh Wise's car, who's going to have a better full season? Josh Wise. Absolutely. 100%. Fast cars go fast. I told Jeff Gluck that 15 years ago.

They're going fast when they wreck, too. But, I mean, Josh Wise is not a bad driver. He's just in subpar equipment. and he's just trying to make do with it. And, you know, those guys, there's 10 guys back there that are making a living office, not because they don't have a choice. And they're better drivers than what they are, but they're limited to their resources,

and they may never get a chance to be able to, but it's not a bad career. They're still driving race cars for a living. You know, so it's not a bad deal, but there's guys with talent back there that you don't know because they can't show it. Where this sport has changed so much is Jeff Burr, Burton used to get here and he would have to earn his way into a top ride.

So he would start out, you know, in some equipment that was certainly subpar and end up with a Stavola brothers who was still subpar. And then boom, gets hired by Jack Rauch all of a sudden compete for championships, leading every lap at New Hampshire, you know, winning Phoenix, doing all these, winning Southern 500s. The guy always had the talent. He didn't have the equipment. Jeff Gordon kind of changed that because he got here and it was like, man, this guy's

got a ton of speed. We're going to put him in a fast car immediately. Rick Hendrick went and hired him away from Bill Davis. Was in the Babe Ruth car in Exfinity Series now doing pretty well. Rick saw some things. Boom, he puts him in a cup car. He wrecked 13 times his rookie year, but was super fast. Second year blew up.

Rick Hendrick changed the mold. He allowed a guy like Tony Stewart to be able to come in and get in a good car. Blaney to come in and get in a good car. Chase Elliott to come in and get in a good car. For the most part, in NASCAR history, you had to get here and earn the good car. You didn't immediately get in an RCR. car. They had to see you and go, okay, this guy can do it. Yeah, you worked your way up. He went C, B, and then the A. You just kind of worked your way up over the years. Now you have these kids

that are coming in as rookies and they're going right to A's. Yeah. They're not going into the C car or B car than the A car. Eric Jones has never been in a C car in his life. And he will continue to be in an A car. Chase Elliott has never been in a C car in his life. It doesn't. It's not anything derogatory toward them. Yeah. They just don't know what it's like to be in a subpar car. Now, To TJ's point, when you came in and went CBA, when you got to A, if you didn't do well, you never heard of you again. See you. Yeah. You know, see you.

And you were a lot older. Yeah. You were a lot older. Yeah. Do you, I mean, do you guys think that, you know, these rookies should come in and earn their way up or are they good just to come straight in into an A? I think the way Chase and Blaney have went about it are pretty good examples. They both put their time in in the lower tier series and came in and earned their. I mean, Chase is a Xavier champion.

and Blaney came in. Blaney ran two, three years in the truck series and won races and was competitive, and they've all came in and put their time in. I remember watching Blaney his first. Remember when he went to Darlington? He was the first car on the track, and we were all watching them.

We were holding our breath in the corner because he was about to knock the wall over a corner, but man, he was digging, you know, and he comes in there, and these guys, they both have talent. So, you know, I'd say, if they didn't have the talent to do it, I would, you know,

but these guys both have talent have both put their time in in the lower tier series. Blaney's been in the trucks for at least two years. Chase took two years of Xfinity. It's not like they've just went from, you know, super late models, ran a couple of Xfinity races, and now they're in the Cup series. You know, they've actually put time in a lower tier series and worked their way up. It was economics back then, and it's economics now.

You know, if you've got the sponsorship attraction to put you in the fast car, you're going to get in it. But T. T.J. is definitely spot on for fast cars go fast, man. Josh Wise and the 48 would outrun Jimmy Johnson that 30 every single race. Yeah, I'm not 100% sure a guy like Eric Jones. He's got a super amount of talent. He's fast.

He knows where to place the car. But he doesn't seem to handle adversity very well in my eyes. So I'm not sure if he whatever had to make it in a lower tier car, he would survive anymore just because of some decisions he might make or something. But he's got a ton of talent. He's got tons of speed. Valid point. it's tough to struggle in any sport yeah you know so were these questions good

were they one bar best ones man best best best question was the one bar question yeah we could talk about that for a dude i like justin timberlake question now that made me think i like justin timbrelake i'm sorry i wasn't justin bhaver what if it was justin timbrelake or just him just jason just you're going to beaver just you're going he's going he'd go beaver he's a believer just why would he not go is it too late now to say Sorry. Yes, it is. Because I'm missing more than just to your body.

Kristen, this is to you. He's sniffing gluten right now. She is swelling up. She's probably stabbing herself in the leg right now with a pen. Probably. Indianapolis, man, home of the brickyard 400 and some other race. It's not a big deal. Yeah, this is, I've never won a race there, so I would really like to check that off my list.

Me too. Elliot ran second, third, back in the 8th. stays at this place. Heartbreaking, man. Set on the pole, which was cool. We used to go to Indy, man, have 100,000 people there for qualifying. Insane.

We used to be able to go out on pit road to stand there. Now we've got 100. Sorry. We used to be able to go out there and stand on pit road for qualifying. Right on the inside of the pit wall. And man, those cars coming into that corner. Yeah, it was, they're so fast, man. Yeah.

Thanks. Well, it's pretty good. But I've fled there. I've led laps there, but have never got the victory. You screwed up the whole race and the tire war deal. Not tire war, but the tire debacle. Whenever we blew a tire. You kept blowing tires every eight laps, so they kept throwing cautions every seven.

So Dale Jr. wouldn't keep blowing tires. We got out in the lead one time. We were only in the lead one time, I think. And I looked back, and I'm like, man, we've got a big lead. And I'm like, yeah, I need to tone it down. Then he was like, I'm just riding. I'm like, yeah. Yeah

Another tire He blew about seven tires that day No, only about two man Man Everybody blew tire You got me blowing tires We didn't blow anybody But we had to keep stopping for you guys

So we should You wouldn't blow another one They were all over the place The most famous Steakhouse On tour arguably St. Elmo's I think I'm gonna go

Thursday night And Friday night You get in the shrimp Croptail I don't need that It's got too much Spicy stuff in It was

Shrimp cocktail man It's too spicy Dive in No not diving into that. It's spicy. I don't eat spicy food. You've got to just respect the place, man. Just dive in. I will say for anyone who's never been to Indianapolis, city, fantastic. Great downtown.

Love that city. Similar to Charlotte. Yeah, very flat, clean. Stadium is right there. It's got a lot of good bars. A lot of good bars. A lot of good restaurants. Hooters. It's got a Hooters. It's got a P.F. Chang's with a nightclub in it. Elliot's little boy, Wyatt, he's like six now. Oh, he loves hood. He loves Hooters.

He's like, let's go to Hooters. His mom, Amanda gets pissed. It's awesome. I bet. Oh, man. I mean, I mean, he likes the wings. He likes chicken wings. That's why we all go there.

We go to Hooters for the wings. Yeah. And the Turley fries. And the breasts. Well, they got to fried chicken breasts. They do. They do. All right, we got to predict some stuff for Indy.

Last week, TJ, I was hoping. I was pulling for him because he had Clint. That's what I was. I was really hoping for. Well, where are we going, Indy? Indy. Oh, man. It's all about motor.

All right. If you don't have motor, you're not going to win Indy. How many races do we have left in the season? Oh, now he's going to get analytical. He's been just picking all year. He's five races behind, and now he's getting nervous. Well, we got that bonus. What is that bonus junk?

What bonus? There's a bonus one on there they give you. But we didn't know nobody won it. It was the All-Star. Nobody wanted it. No, no, no. You had to win the race to get the bonus. Nobody got it.

You had to win the race so it was neat. You got a five-point lead, right? That's correct. That's a fact. So, it's a fact. I'll do this after. Let me pick my, make my pick here. I'll show you why it's added in there.

Oh, God. Here we go. Anyway, so for Indie, let's go ahead and, uh, um, I'm picking between two cars. I've got who I want to pick, but I'm I've got to go with... I'm gambling.

I'm gambling. I'm gambling. Everybody's going to gamble this show all year. You know, I gambled last week. It's a pretty hard gamble when I pick you. I'm going to go... I mean, now that you said you're gambling, I'm thinking. I need Kristen here to rush this along.

You screwed it up. Yeah. He didn't know what to do. You really mind. Yeah. See, but when you get the lead, you can intimidate your competitor. Especially when you're five out. Yeah.

Yeah. That's like being up 30 points in a football game. Let's roll with Kyle. It's going Kyle Busch. Or Larsen. Bush. Kyle Busch. I've already used Larsen.

The Bushmeister. So I have a really unique strategy. And I only have the strategy because the... Just give me the win right here. No. with it. I may be about to hand it to you. The only reason I even have this strategy is because the Hendrick PR team jumped the gun

on naming an announcement, a replacement in the event that Dell Jr. doesn't race. So I'm going to gamble and I hope that I don't even have a starter. Like I hope Dale Jr. comes back and has a good weekend. But in the event that he's not going to come back, I'm going to

pick Jeff Gordon. So either I'm not going to have a driver in the race at all or T.J's out. Or I'm going to have Jeff Gordon, who hasn't raced all year. So we're going to take a gamble and go with Jeff

Wonderboy, who's now 40 plus years old. Gordon. TJ, you got any comments? No, I'm adding this guy's math up because it's terrible. Okay, and see, here's the funny thing. Here's the funny thing about TJ's prediction thing. We both picked Denny Hamlin for the 500.

I picked him because I, I thought he was going to win, and TJ picked him because he didn't want him to win. So we tied on that one, and it really should have been another win. I really screwed that one up. I really bowed that one pretty hard. You got to rethink that strategy. So anyway, Jeff Gordon against who did you pick? Kyle Busch.

I'm at a disadvantage regardless, but I got to gamble on this one. I'm not gambling. No, I think you picked the top three or four guy, no doubt. Yeah. TJ, you got a rant today? We've already covered most of my rants. Maybe if I could ran about anything, maybe this Pokemon stuff, if I could get Brett to quit playing it. I don't even know what it is.

Dude, I found a rare Pokemon on the roof and I realized it was the Two-Spotter. Did you see that? We're talking about Pokemon's and Clintons. Yeah. And I'm like, this is 1988 all over again. I thought Pokemon was a card game back in the day. That's what I thought. You had it.

No. Are people paying for this out? No. I don't think you can pay for it. So how do they make it money? Advertising? Yeah, I don't know. That's a good point. Maybe.

I mean, the entire damn country is playing this thing. Not Brett Griffin. His family ain't. His family ain't playing. I'm talking to myself in third person like I'm a rock. Brett Griffin's family didn't blame it. I won't let my kids play it. Meanwhile, they're in Charlotte right now, hunting.

It's good family fun. It's good family fun. How about go get a damn fishing rod and have some family fun? You know? You know, I'm all. I think it's pretty cool. At least kids are getting out and doing something at least. It's better than, you know, sitting, you know, I mean, I'm glad to see some kids getting out.

Something to get them a little active and do it. But, I mean, I fish all the time when I was little. I went fishing all the damn time. Fish, ride motorcycles, ride a bike, ride a skateboard. We ain't chase Pokemon people that don't even exist. I mean, what if you ride your skateboard? Watch wrestling. What if you ride your skateboard or bike to go find a Pokemon?

Well, you probably could run over because it's apps putting Pokemon people in the middle of interstate. Hey, speaking of the Rock, do you know he's one of the highest paid actors in Hollywood right now? Is he still in that show? If you can smell la la la la what the rock is cooking. He was my favorite wrestler. He's the Jibroni. He's a race fan. Is he?

Yeah. Heck yeah, man. Twain Johnson. Who's he in the new... Who's a race fan of? It doesn't matter who he's a race fan of. Him and Hermie are big buddies, Sadler. It doesn't matter what your damn name is.

That's what you say, isn't it? Yeah. You can say, right? Yeah. Okay, good. Anyway. You can't say. Yeah, all the other.

Yeah. Yeah. So, all right. Well, let's go to Andy and see how we do. Thanks to everybody for joining us here. And the Exalta Studio. Thanks, one main. Yeah.

Good luck in the truck race Wednesday night. Maybe Kristen will be back next week. Maybe not. Maybe not. Depends on our gluten intake. Yeah, she's maybe we, you know what? I'm a buyer. that bubble.

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