Door Bumper Clear - 255 - Gateway: It's Not Over

Episode Date: June 6, 2022

Door Bumper Clear returns from the inaugural NASCAR Cup Series race in St. Louis at Gateway. Brett Griffin, T.J. Majors and Freddie Kraft give their impressions of Sunday’s sold-out event and experience, while sharing their displeasure with the spotter stand location. The next Dirty Mo Media Ultimate Suite Experience is coming to Bristol Motor Speedway this fall, hear all the details.In Spot On, Spot Off, the crew further discusses how Gateway performed in its first Cup race and praises the fan amenities. Then, they spark a discussion of why tracks need to do a better job reinvesting television revenue into improving track facilities.Next, they talk about Ross Chastain’s bump and run move that took Denny Hamlin out of contention and Hamlin's retaliation throughout the rest of the race. The guys explain why Chastain can’t afford to continue making enemies and react to Justin Marks' comments defending his driver.More drama continued into the next topic as they talk Ricky Stenhouse Jr. spinning Bubba Wallace while racing for what 23XI team owner Hamlin said was 30th. Freddie shares his displeasure with Stenhouse's aggression and applauds Hamlin's retaliation shortly after the incident.In the rain-soaked Xfinity Series race at Portland International Raceway, leader Ty Gibbs got spun out by Jesse Iwuji under caution. The guys explain why they aren’t surprised to see Iwuji cause the incident and continue to question why NASCAR allows him to compete.Carson Hocevar was injured in a last-lap wreck in the Truck Series race at Gateway. The guys discuss the safety crew’s response time and break down how long it took for the safety team to reach the accident. Plus, debate whether Hocevar should have left his window net up.Stewart-Haas Racing's Brian Murphy tweeted about being curtailed from tweeting his thoughts and opinions about the sport. The crew discusses which entity they believe pressured him to stop sharing details about the industry on social media. Plus, Brett asks T.J. about how his vocality has changed moving from Team Penske to Roush Fenway Keselowski Racing.Finally, the spotters share their thoughts on Sonoma Raceway reverting back to running the chute instead of the carousel for the upcoming weekend. The guys share their thoughts if the racing will improve with the switch and question if the Next Gen car’s road course racing will continue to improve.In Reaction Theatre, fans call in about Denny vs. Ross, call the DBC guys Denny simps, discuss Joey Logano's overtime restart move to win, and enjoy another song by a frequent caller.Thank you to our presenting sponsor Offerpad and partners Xfinity and RacingUSA.com for making this show possible. Want more DBC? Check out and subscribe to the new DBC YouTube channel! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Door. Hey, what's up, everybody? I'm Freddie Craft, and today on Door bumper clear presented by Offerpad. We're back from the inaugural cup race at Gateway with a lot to cover. We'll talk Danny Hamlin versus Ross Chastain, Ty Gibbs getting spun by Jesse Owoogie under caution at Portland, the safety crew response time in the truck race, and much, much more. Jason, let's roll.

Nobody's listening, but I don't care. I'm on an episode of Door Bumper Clear. Hey, everybody. I'm T.J. Major is inspired of the 6th. up the car, the one truck this weekend, another full house. Did you have to read that off the paper? It's not even on here now. Just to make sure he got that right.

It was like you were intensely reading who you are and what you do. T.J. forget two weeks about. Brett Griffin, spotter for collie racing, stole a 13th or 14th place finish yesterday. And man, Freddie, you had quiet today. I did. I was backwards twice. Just ran awful after that.

What's up? Freddie Crasbauder, Bubba Wallace. Derek Krause this week. Yeah, I don't know. Why were you backwards? We got, well, twice. Chase spun out, or Chase got spun out by this guy Ross,

that wrecked, I don't know, everybody. And we checked up for the wreck and the 21 car that was behind us. Didn't. No way. Believe it or not. He has had a habit of that this year a little bit. Is that three weeks in a row? I know, I don't know, maybe three weeks in a row.

Texas for sure. Charlotte. Did he wrecked Charlotte? I don't remember that. Sam Busser into that wreck to flip him. Oh, I didn't remember that was him. I was gone. I was sleeping by then.

Also, earlier, when we wrecked you, when we spun you at California, you remember, he was the one that came in and cleaned this out like five minutes later. Do you think I forgot? Yeah, like, we were all going to be fine after that, and then here he comes and just wipes us all out. Yes, I remember that very well. So Bubba was on the golf tour with the guys,

and then him and Denny had a spat, and Denny kicked him out of the little man's golf tour. He just got kicked out of the basketball league. Oh, still on the golf league. So he and Ricky aren't buddies anyway. Well, I mean, they were buddies. Used to be. Well, and the deal with Ricky, which I think we talk about later, so we'll wait on that.

But we just got Ricky turned us around and then. But why didn't he wreck you? That's what I didn't understand. Well, it's a topic in the show. Yes. Maybe you read it next time. You know that sheet. You just blame me for reading.

You should try to read. I can't read. You should try reading the damn thing. But, yeah, so it was a long day. We just hard to pass. And I think that our car was pretty decent to start the race. But when we got turned by Harrison in that Elliott deal, we really weren't the same after it. I don't know if there was damage or not or if we just got, because we were in the back,

couldn't get any track position back. Track changed a bunch too. If you lose track position? Yeah, it was over. Like, it didn't matter what you were doing. So that was unfortunate for us. But yeah, just not an ideal day. What's up, Casey?

Hello, everyone. Back from Indiana Midget Week. Thank you to everyone who came in and introduced themselves. and thank you all for listening. Of course, Jason. Director of content, Jason Schultz here. Great and powerful eyes. Oh, man.

Yep. So how was St. Louis? Changing the subject. St. Louis was awesome. I made a friend. I think you all made a friend based on the videos that we saw. So this was actually in my spot off for St. Louis section, but since Freddie brought it up, I wasn't.

I wasn't going to bring it up. But Freddie was. Well, we can't go into much detail. Freddie was attempting to get an Uber, T.J. And a random person showed up and asked to give him oral sex in the middle of the road. This happened, okay? This is everything but videoed. A very well-respected person, as far as the way they were dressed, showed up and just out of the blue offered Freddie oral sex.

So like... Like, is there a catch or? Yeah, I wasn't. And he said, no, I went back in the bar. I was going back in the bar. I was going back in the bar. I ran. Like, I didn't know what to do.

There's no time when you would. You don't know. You don't know. I mean, I didn't know what to say. I didn't know what to do. What term was actually used? Like, just walk up. Wasn't like a hey, what's up? You're hot. There was a little bit of small talk. There was a little small talk. Like, how's your night? What are you up to? And then the third question out of their mouth was. Can I give you a B. Apparently, they really liked what you were doing that night. So he was dressed super cute. I was. I mean, he was dressed nice. I'm talking about Freddie. Freddie was dressed. I don't know about the other person. If we didn't get canceled before, we are definitely getting caught on that. You're flirting with it right now. So St. Louis, it didn't blow.

Jason, it was actually a pretty good race. Are you allowed to see that? Probably not. Oh, it was, hey, look, man, a lot of effort went into what those guys pulled off. And I know we're going to talk about it in a minute, but just I give the track staff an A plus, plus, plus, plus, plus, plus because I was there a couple months ago,

and that place looked awful. I mean, it looked absolutely terrible. And to pull off what they did and in a short amount of time, they completely renovated. You were there a month ago? Two months ago. And you didn't go check the spotter stand for us?

Well, the spotter stand I thought would be on top of the building. So where was it? But they moved it. It was in the top of the grandstands exiting turn four. I was going to, that like, I like to disagree with Brett, but this facility was awesome. I mean, the way they, and honestly, I was super worried about traffic.

And I think they had that nailed. Whatever they did, I think they had it flowing. I know that we got jammed up a little bit on the way in. But when you're bringing that many people into a race, it's going to happen. You're going to have some traffic getting in, to me anyway. Yeah. Everybody shows up at the same time. The only negative from the weekend, to me, you know, as far as the track wise and all that stuff,

A plus for everything they did. The buzz, the atmosphere there. Awesome. Super good. And was the spotter stand? Like I don't know. I didn't see it on the list here. Pretty hard to do. Pretty hard to be a useful spotter at that place. Brett, you mentioned that there was one thing you would change. Is it the spotter stand? It was a spotter stand. So TJ, the rumor was going around on the spotter stand that T.J was consulted on the decision of where to put the spotter stand. So I asked T.J. on Saturday night, was that the case? And he said no.

So we had a prominent team figure within NASCAR. Ask NASCAR who determined where the spotter stand was going to be. And what did they tell them? They said that they consulted with veteran spotters. So who the fuck are the veteran spotters? Because I've been up there longer than any of y'all. And it wasn't me. I mean, you've been up there a long time.

And if it wasn't you, who was it? I put it in our spotter group, me looking for answers. if there's anybody in here that did it nobody nobody in there I think I know but I'm not going to say yet because month and a half ago somebody said

hey yeah or two couple months ago somebody said I think you knew this as well they say gateway is building a new spotter Sam and they said like I was it made it sound like it was right next to race control up like at that point And if you're next to race going up, that's okay in that area.

But where we were was not where you would want to be. There's three things you want to do as a spotter. You want to have a place to park, a place to pee, and be able to see. We didn't have nowhere to pee. Yeah, we did. You had 14 stories down. No, man. There's a bad thing.

You told me I had to pee the last hundred laps of the race. You've been to gateway before. If you didn't show up 10 minutes before the race started, are you? It was outside. Literally, you walked right down. Okay. So I had a place to park. I had a place to pee, but I couldn't see.

I couldn't see turn one. I couldn't see turn for it. And listen, here's my issue with the whole thing. The reason we couldn't see was manmade. It wasn't, it was not because the spotter stand, I mean, the spotter stand was too low. But the reason we couldn't see, and I'll post pictures of it, is because they put stages in the middle of turn one and two that blocked the whole race track. There was a tent off a turn four that blocked half the racetrack. And I will say this about that tent.

when the wreck happened where y'all all ran over each other when Ross wrecked nine I could not see where I was standing the top side of the track so I can't I don't know whether or not to say go high or I have to base it on being able to see 40% of the racetrack and I had a guest in my suite yesterday her name's Nicole and she was basically saying stop being about not being able to see and I said okay let me hand you your laptop and only 70% of your laptop work for all week because all you want to do when you show up is be able to see. And they took that away from us. It was too low.

The vantage points were terrible. The stage in one and two is really bad. Really bad. I mean, you literally just lost them. Yeah, you can actually lost your car. You can't put us in that position because we're going to look like a bunch of idiots if they start wrecking and we say the wrong thing. Yeah, we had the, like, so there was a lot of contributing factors here. We had a Pocono style turn one where we were too far away, too low, so you had no depth perception in a turn one.

They built us a countertop that was about chest, high so you lost the opportunity to lean forward because the thing is against your chest. And then like you guys said, there's on Friday or Saturday for the truck race, there was one stage in the middle of turn one and two. When we came back Sunday for the cup race, I'm assuming it's where Nellie and Dugger played on Saturday night. They had constructed some bigger stages. I think they were there, but they weren't raised up.

There was two more stages that they tried to lower. They did lower them from the pre-raised deal, but it still blocked the entire bottom half of the racetrack. And so from the entry to turn one to at least like the three quarter mark, you could not see any of the bottom lane. It was very challenging. Yeah. I mean, I'll post the pictures on Twitter.

There wasn't, there was not, to me, there wasn't a level of comfort to do your job. No. And that's like when you start, when you're not comfortable how you're, where you're spotting from, it just makes it hard. Here's what I'm going to say, whatever spotter or whoever they consulted with and whoever made this decision to put us. there are all a bunch of idiots. Yeah.

That was the worst spotter stand in the history of NASCAR. And I thought Indy was bad in the middle of COVID. Yeah. It was way better than that. Yeah. Like there's, I'm Indy, I'm Phoenix. I're the worst ones, but that one is. Imagine an offensive coordinator showing up for a football game and only be able to see

60% of the field. Yeah. How mad is he going to be? They can't see the end zone. That's all. Yeah. I mean, like that's, that's what we basically encounter. But anyway, St. Louis, A plus plus to the track staff.

And speaking of racetracks, we got Bristol Suites, the ultimate brist Bristol experience going on sale, right, Jason? Yes, the ultimate experience on sale now for Bristol this fall. Playoff race last year was very exciting. Harvick and Chase Elliott. And Bristol's loud. So being in a suite in the summer still. Here's my favorite part about these suites is, and look, I just had a suite with 30

people in it this weekend. Casey's in a lot of suites. But my favorite part about these Dirty Mo Media suites, it's 60 raging race fans. They truly love NASCAR. They're there for their favorite drive. and by the time this experience is over with, they're all buddies. They've all had a beer together, had a shot a fireball together. Like, they truly leave their friends.

And we get to hang out with them for a couple hours. And they realize I kept hearing on the video, you guys are just a bunch of down-to-earth guys. I'm just a redneck from Paisal of South Carolina. Where do you think we got an idiot from? Yeah, it's us. Yeah, it's us. But like to see these guys get to come in and have the, and this is a VVIP experience. I mean, you got drinks included.

You got food. You got bathroom. you got, like Jason said. And I will say this, Casey, I would love to hear you weigh in on this. Of all the sweets that we go to, Bristol is my favorite sweets in the entire country because the glass is seamless. There's no bad vantage points. It is quiet.

You can have a conversation and still get to enjoy 500 laps around that place. They do a great job at that track. I mean, I don't know how many times they clean that glass, but I can tell you you can see the entire track. it is clear you can't get much better. Like you said, like I've obviously helped you with some of the nutrient ag sweets and stuff like that. And a lot of times when you go to these sponsor events, it's their first time there. You know, it's a first there.

Oh, this is my first race I've ever been to. You know, they're not like Brett said, raging NASCAR fans. So it kind of, not did it dulcie experience at all, but like you're kind of, you know, we were talking about somebody in the suite last time, well, you guys weren't there. But there was their first race. Like she wasn't a big NASCAR fan, but because she was around everybody for that event, now she loves it. But yeah, like the fact that you're in there with race fans that are like-minded like you, you're probably willing to do some couch racing and do some arguing on the-

You're going to think I'm crazy. I think this will be the second hottest NASCAR ticket of the year. I think the Daytona 500 in general beats anything that any of us can do. But I think this ticket for this race is the freaking second hardest thing to get in our sport. Once it goes live. And it is live. The Bristol night race is on the verge of being one of the crown jewels. I mean, it's, if you're, it's just, I mean, it's Bristol.

Everything's right there. There's not a bad seat in the house. I like, like you said, you get to go in there and hang out with people and, and with the, just rowdy bunch, man. That's rowdy. I love it. Yeah. And it's fun.

I mean, like, everyone that's been to these experiences is left with raving, you know, reviews love it. So, and it's just cool to see them come in there. and get the experience and enjoy the trip, you know. Yeah. Well, tickets go on sale today. Today, they're out. Yes. Buy them now.

Buy them quick because they will definitely sell out. This is probably the best race of the year. Don't want to miss it. Speaking of the best things of the year, do you guys listen to any of the Mayfield, Dell Jr. stuff? I have not yet. Man, that Dell Jr. download with Mayfield, I'm two and a half hours into this thing. How long is it?

Oh, it's two parts. And, man, like, you're intrigued by a lot of it. and some of it is like you're reading a fiction book. You're like, dude, you're so full of shit right now. But when you look at that, like, I'm telling you right now, this is probably my favorite El Jr. So I have not listened yet because I want to wait for the second part to come out so I can kind of listen, probably this week on the West Coast.

Yeah, I'll do it to the West Coast. But so I've been of the opinion that he's full of shit for a long time. You know, like just kind of, you know, just that was my opinion. And I've seen an interesting tweet from Davis saying that this part two, that he says some stuff in part two. too that really makes you consider the fact that maybe he's not. So we'll see. I'll be interested in to listen to it.

One more Dirtymo podcast, Speed Street. Our IndyCar podcast had its first episode on Dirtymo last week. It's entertaining. Connor Daly is a hoot. And Joey Molanoero does a lot of those impressions. I didn't know what he said right there. A what? Conner Daily.

Oz said Connor Daly is a hoot. He's very fun. They were talking about the after party Indy 500 and the dynamics of the different drivers having after parties. And that was like crazy. It sounds like an award show deal. Like everybody had to get invited to the after parties? No, we were way too tired by that point.

Way too tired. So next year, we got to get on that list. Yeah, we're on the list next year. Why don't we take a week off after the 500 and do that type of stuff? Yeah, I agree. I agree. Daytona 500 winner can go on. The rest of us can go to Razzles and like holidays.

Yeah. Yeah. So go subscribe, follow Speed Street. They have shows every week. Indy car race was yesterday at Detroit was pretty good. It was a great weekend of racing period. Like, I mean, it just was all. Awesome. A.J. Amandinger.

I don't think you were going to say that if you were in Portland. Oh, my God. Did they make you spot in the rain? But man, that race, that race was awesome. I mean, AJ Amandinger, that's probably one of the biggest company. He wrecks before the race even starts. Who does that? So I didn't see the beginning of the race.

I got down there. What happened in the beginning? He ran off the track before they even took the green. Screwed his car up. If you come in. If you look at the picture of the field, you know, they always snap a picture of the field coming to green. Like half the field is not there. because AJ wrecked and they all had to like scatter behind him.

So like there's only like 20 cars coming to the green. Coming to the green. He wrecked full of racing started. How does that? During the racing. How does it like three times? If he does not come back and win that race, he is by far the what an idiot.

No, there's a guy that did some other. Oh, don't worry. You'll cover that later. But you, you expect that from the other one. You don't expect to this. You don't expect to this.

One of you guys said that that race was awesome. The others said that it sucked. I didn't say it sucked. I think he's insinuating it would have sucked had we had to be there and spotting the radar. I was saying yes. As a spotter, I mean, they were in the rain. It's not fun. We spotted a race last year and pouring rain the entire time. How much fun did you have? None. You probably weren't there. I enjoyed the roval race that we did because we won. I did that one, AJ. And that was a hurricane for three hours. Coda was a downpour. Oh, yeah. That was terrible.

It was out of there pretty. earlier. Oh my God. I was there the whole thing and it was miserable. Do you see us? Yeah, it was great to watch. I mean, couldn't turn it off. Any time a track goes from wet to dry, wet to dry and you got exfini drivers

out there, it's going to be a hell of a show. Do you guys see them going back to Portland after Brett, after your comments last week? Look, it's a phenomenal racetrack. Just economically it sucks for the teams. No other way around. Even two weeks off. Especially to go out there in the rain and then not only have to do all that traveling, but now half

the field is destroyed on top of it. Like, ugh. No, it's more than half. I'll bet 80% of this car is more. I mean, I was talking about destroyed. There was very little that didn't have any damage, but. AJ's car looked like he had raced Bristol and Martinsville in the same car.

The right rear was torn completely off of it. And he wins the race. I think it's the biggest comeback win in NASCAR history. One of those restarts, I looked back there, and the guy running third had smoke billing out of both sides of the cars and still digging. And then flies to St. Louis and races the cup race next day. That is indeed.

Yeah, and rain well. Yeah. Well, before we heading the spot on, spot off, TJ, what in the world happened to you during the truck race with Haley Degan and Stuart freezing? I don't, like, this is a way bigger deal than, like, did this get blown out of proportion or something? I have no idea. I don't know what happened. I mean.

Brock doesn't really cover it too much. I just saw on Twitter a few people were a comment. People keep asking me here, like, second, not the second person, there multiple people were like, what happened in the truck? We come off a turn four and we slowed up a little bit. she pinched Stewart a little bit into the wall. It was just, it was basically a Legano,

Byron off a turn to it, Darlington. I mean, it was that and he got mad. Caution comes out. He runs up there. It wasn't from that. The caution came out for something else. He runs up there. He's trying to run into the grass down the backstretch.

Spotters down there yelling at me for, no, like, I'm like, Rick, she just. Who's the spotter? Oh, was Rick. Mr. Rick was really mad at me. And I'm like, she just, slid up a little too high.

I don't know what you want me to tell you. I'm sorry. And then his guy goes and just fences the seven late in the race off of turn two. Oh yeah. I talked to Raja yesterday. He said that Stewart definitely stuffed him in the fence. Yeah, but that's okay.

But no, and that, like, he just, he tried to wreck her one time and then tried to run under the grass. Just losing his cool. And it's truck series. Speaking of that, shout out to two guys,

one Raja. I thought Raja did a phenomenal job in the truck race. Super good race. Made one mistake, leaving pit road he sped if he didn't speed he's probably going to run top five top 10 so great job by him he's doing a great job learning we see him on the roof every week asking questions during the race about he'll go to any spotter that has an issue during the race and asks them about the issue that they just had and what caused it and whatnot so great job by him

he's doing a great job learning getting better and kudos to zane smith uh good job yesterday kind of ran his own race off to a rocky start by spelling the boss's name wrong in the thank you tweet but i don't think that was him from somebody somebody in the zane smith team was off to a rocky start by spelling brad's name wrong in the thank you um but i thought he did a great job yesterday he kind of had that top rolling pretty well and came home clean he beat more than half the field so it's good literally just rode around for a while figured the cars out for half the race and he was pretty aggressive at the end i mean he was he does have the dubious distinction of his first

cup race he got out qualified by cody though we have to bring that up because he about busted his ass in turn three we almost read into one he he he's How many people do you think could spell Kiselowski's name right? I mean, straight up, without knowing them? But how many people know to fucking Google it? What an idiot.

It's his, the best part about it is, it is his Twitter handle. It's at Kessalowski. That's no, Brad, there's no letters, no numbers is Kiselowski. Brett, the day you can say Matt's de Benedetto.

I almost spit my water out. I can spell it though, damn it. Because I got Google. Yeah, so you probably, yeah, I mean, there's zero chance you write anything professional with Matt's name without looking it up. Because if you tried to sound it out, you'd have like seven Ds. All right, let's hear a little bit more about our presenting sponsor, OfferPad. We know your life is busy.

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No one ever seems to agree. And then spot off means you disagree. Spot off. Here we fucking go. This is the dumbest thing I've ever heard. But if you're T.J. Um, uh, uh, there's only one correct answer. I don't know.

It's time for spot on, spot off. Moving on to spot on, spot off. First topic. The inaugural. Pup Series race in St. Louis. I know we talked about this in the beginning of the show, but Brett, overall. So I've got kind of a list here, and I'll just run down it real quick. At track experience, okay, spot on.

I have never in my career seen a track do more than what St. Louis did. I've been to Super Bowls. I've been to Major League Baseball World Series. I have never seen a track. Try to give you a better experience. We had stages freaking everywhere. They had two stages on the front stretch outside. They had two stages on the track inside.

They had big names. Nelly, Old Dominion, just tons of freak of Dugger was there, like just tons of that. So a huge spot on for that. Food vendors. Lots of local food vendors. What does that tell you? That tells you that the track was not screwing them on rent. Because if they can't afford to make money, they can't afford to come.

And when you go to these big tracks that overcharge for their space, a local food guy can't afford to pay rent. So for those guys to do that, major spot on. The race itself, spot on. I think that goes back to the drivers, though, for the cup race. I think the drivers made it interesting. I think the tires sucked. I don't think the car was going to do that great there.

I think we had guys like Ross Chastain that did stupid things that made it be a good race. And I'm sure me saying he did stupid things is going to make somebody a trackhouse, man, because we've already done that once this year. they called complain. Wanted a whole podcast taking off the air over Freddie calling Ross an idiot for pulling up in the middle of the pack. The length of the race, just over three hours, I think, major spot on. I thought that was perfect. The rooftop patio on top of the suites.

I don't know if they showed that on TV at all. Freaking A++. What a great place to watch the race. If you beat the hell out of where we were, like you said, traffic. Traffic plan exiting. I had suite parking. Frank Denny was on my plane. He had spotter parking.

Both of us got there at the same time. easy, easy out. Spot off for two things. Food and beverage lines. They had such awesome vendors there that people were literally standing in lines that were 40 and 50 yards long just to get food and beverage. But when you've got the local sugar fire barbecue there, people are going to want to eat it, man.

So they got to do something there. They just let's let even more vendors in. And then obviously biggest spot off is that terrible spotter location, worst ever. But overall, Casey, spotter. on for me. Yeah. I mean, just the takeaways, like looking off the back of the grandstands where we were down in that midway, that midway was incredible. I haven't seen a midway like that in years, you know, honestly. And I mean, it was loaded with people, loaded with every concession saying he looked at like Brett said, had a long line, but they were all like that, you know.

There was people everywhere. That was the biggest takeaway from me was just the amount of fans that kind of flock to this event. And I think in the years that come, maybe, you know, I don't know about as soon as next year, but, you know, you know, you know, you're going to see a lot of upgrades to that place. I think you're going to see a new grandstand. I think you're going to see new suites, a new spotter stand. Obviously, you know, in years past, these tracks probably had to do that before they got a cup date. But this is a pretty important place in NASCAR.

There's a lot of NASCAR influence on the board of directors there. So I think it was important to get there. And the fans flock to it and showed that it could be a great race. I don't know. Now, obviously, we don't know what the traffic looked like an hour after the race was over. It might have been terrible. but the plan to get, you know, it seemed to be flowing very easily when we left.

But you know what else they did after the race. Yeah, that's what I was going to say. They had four more concerts. They had a reason for people to not just leave right away. So that's good. That's what you want. Like we talk about added value. And then the people tricker out at a slower pace too.

Some are staying for the concert. It's the only got, you know, 60% of the crowd might leave. 40% stay, get another drink, go to the concert, hang out. This greatly exceeded my expectations. I had pretty low expectations of a single file, kind of more Phoenix type race where, you know, this track seemed like it widened out. I didn't anticipate it in widening out as much as it did.

Oh my gosh. Like Brett said, the drivers kind of contributed to that, being able to move around. And that's what helped the race. Because like you said, the tire falloff was non-existent. Track position was king. You know, there was some guys, you could tell the guys that were really good, namely the 22, obviously won the race.

But you could see he can get through traffic a little bit better than most guys. But it's a lot of times, and it contributed to a lot of the issues, I think, during the race, was guys were getting very frustrated because it was hard to pass. But it could have been worse if it was a single lane racetrack. But like I'm aside from the damn spotter stand, I think it was a home run on all accounts. And a spotter stand like we said wouldn't have been so bad if they didn't put stuff up that was in the way. You know, so it's just we talk about if they consult or other spotters and stuff,

even if they do, if they take me, you or T.J. there and go, all right, guys, we're going to put you on this roof right here. And we got there and there's nothing around. Oh, great. It's going to look fine. It's going to look fine. Yeah, that'll be fine. Then we get there all of a sudden, and there's this big tent and two stages over here. Like, well, wait a minute. When we talked about this, that's, it wasn't there.

Like, so if you don't look at it with all the stuff that's going to be there, you can't tell that stuff. So, you know, like I said, I'm sure they're going to make some steps to fix it. I mean, we've reached out to our people and ask our namely, poor Kip. He gets beat up on his spotters a lot. I tried to steal his face card this weekend. I saw that. But, yeah, I mean, I'm 100% spot on. Obviously, I'm good with going back there.

Dave Stewart. one of the owners, I guess, of WWT. He's done a lot for Bubba in his career and helped out when we were at the 43. So it's good to see him get that date and hopefully they can keep it. Yeah, I'm spot on the whole weekend. Mine is the spotter stand was challenging,

but racing, track widened out. I don't know if you have the same result with that racetrack if you run it at night. I think it wasn't even that miserable hot. I was worried about that. Weather was awesome. Low 80s or something.

Low 80s, I think it might have been. Great weekend. It was 69 downtown. Track knocked it out of the park. So great job with the parking. That little tunnel out of three and four out of term four flow. Like they got that down. You might wait a minute for one lane.

Then they send the other one. There's people that can walk through that all the time. Yeah, home run. My only regret from the whole weekend is I didn't get to see the Nellie Tim Dugger duet. Like if that happened, something else. No, God, no. Yeah, second thoughts about that, aren't you? No, not even.

I think two big statements were made this weekend, and the biggest one is this track. Listen, when you hear about TV money as a fan, when you hear the word TV money, the majority of the money goes to two entities. Those entities are the tracks and NASCAR. That's who gets the big rake, okay? The majority of tracks that we go to, they don't seem to be reinvesting in their facility, right? So I give them a huge A-plus for actually spending some freaking money.

money to make the fan experience awesome all weekend. But if I'm Steve O'Donnell with NASCAR, who is over all the tracks now, he just took that role, I think, a month or two ago, he went in above Chip Wild. If I'm those two guys, I'm going to sit down and I'm going to go to this racetrack and I'm going to say, show me the economics of what you did. Because obviously the track still has to make money, right? But if you sell seven or eight million dollars worth of tickets and then you got the TV check coming in, how much money is a track making? It's a lot. But what they reinvested there compared to what we see NASCAR and SMI do. It was unbelievable.

But they need to go sit down and collaborate with these guys and change the model for these other tracks. There's no way Charlotte Motor Speedway that's been paid for for 100 years should look like it looks compared to what St. Louis pulled off in a couple months. My question, where was Victory Lane? Front stretch? I believe it was on the front stretch. I think they did it on the front stretch.

That to me, at a short track like that with the crowd that close. Home run. Dude. Perfect. So home run for a gateway. I mean, awesome, awesome experience all weekend, really. Next topic. Denny Hamlin versus Ross Chastain as Chastain, Rex Hamlin,

and then Hamlin cost Chastain valuable time on track multiple times. TJ, spot on, spot off. I mean, this isn't the first time this year. I mean, I'm spot off for for Raw. I think he mentioned himself, just continuously making these moves to do this stuff, it's eventually going to bite you at some point, and I don't think it's bit him yet.

I think a guy slowed him up a little bit, but you got, what's he got two wins? Two wins. Two wins. Like, this is the time to make friends and be quiet. You're just going to knock out them top fives. The wind pops up, you get another one great. These are, you don't,

now's not the time to make the enemies. Now's the time to build as many friendships, if you can go into the playoffs because you want to be on good terms because Danny Hanlon goes, has some bad luck in the first round of the playoffs, gets knocked out, his meter is going to be pegged

that he does not give a he's just that you don't want that right now. You're just creating really bad luck for yourself down the road at some point. So, you know, spot off for Ross doing that. I don't feel like it's over. I am spot on for Ross saying it was terrible driving on his part and that he shouldn't be in the car if he's going to do that.

It was way off on my driving today is what he said. He wasn't only off on his driving one time. He was off on his driving three times, four times. So, four. So what I'm spot on for that. I'm spot off for his car owner, Justin Marks, after the race, when Denny basically tweeted how frustrated he was. Justin Marks was like, honestly, I don't think Ross Chastain did anything wrong.

Denny Hamlet can bring it on. That's kind of what he said on the social media. So I look at these guys and I'm like, man, spot on Fort Ross said, spot off for what his car owner is saying. Keep yourself out of this, in my opinion. But what I'm most spot off for is Ross got punked after he wrecked Denny. Like he put him in a wall and then he let Denny just keep messing with him. Why are you wreck him again? Get him out of the way.

Send another message because he made you look like a punk after you wrecked him. He slowed you down and I don't have SMT like all you guys do. looked like he slowed him down to about 47 miles an hour off a turn two in the middle of a green flag run and Ross just sat there and took it. Why didn't you spin him out and keep going and run your race? Now Ross ended up with a pretty good finish, but I just thought he looked, I thought he looked punked. Yeah, I mean, it looked to me yesterday like the Ross Chastain, don't give a tour, may they stop in St. Louis? And that was, good way to look at it. That was, I mean, he flat out wrecked Danny. Like, that was brutal. Like, he, I mean, it looked to me like,

like they were getting frustrated racing around each other. He just wrecked Denny. Like run him over and went on to one or two. I don't think he meant for it to be that bad, but it did. It didn't be being that bad. Chase Elliott, he just, you know, kind of put himself in a spot where he didn't need to be, turned Chase around off of four. He launched Lugano into three, bottom of three wide, just ran him over, launched him in

there. Did the same thing to the 34 late in the race, just got on his bumper into three. And you don't want to mess with him. Launched him in there. So now you got. Why is that? McDowell will wreck your ass. You've got three guys.

You guys, you've got three guys. guys there, the 11-9-22 that you're going to be racing against in the playoffs. And then you've got a guy that's not going to I mean, essentially, he may make the playoffs with a win somewhere, but right now he's not a playoff team. So, I mean, these are guys you like you said, are these the guys you

really want to mess with at this point? And don't forget about AJ Amadinger, who you wrecked to win Cota. Yeah. Like, I mean, there's, I mean, like these are guys that when they get to you, they're going to be tough in the playoffs. All of them are going to be very can go make deep runs into playoffs. These are the guys right now that when they catch you, you're already ahead of them. You got

two wins. When they catch you, it's the, or race you can, you know, they'll just go. Just go. I mean, this is where you build that friendship. Yeah, I don't, so we're not, where I get, like Danny, of course, said that they're not even, you know, which. Well, it wouldn't matter what Danny says. You're going to say Danny doesn't. But here's my point. Like, he's, we're going to have a hard time here because he said he's going to get them. You know, he said, you know, made comments about the only way to get these message to these guys is put them in the wall hard. And what do we say on here

all the time? If they say they're going to do it, chances are they're not. So we'll see if he can prove that theory wrong. But, you know, going back. I think he proves it wrong. They might. I mean, it's very possible. There's a very possible. Could possibility any of them guys yesterday can prove that theory wrong.

So if we get to the last, we get to Phoenix. Write this down, Jason. If Denny doesn't ever do anything, we have. We have to. You guys be ready to handle this then. Are you surprised NASCAR didn't do anything besides three times that you should stop doing it? They said something. They only said it once.

Yeah. But I don't know where I stand on that. because it's like you know something wrong is going on, but you're going to let it go, or at least make the comment that you're going to let it go once. And they told him, you know, like, Danny,

you made your point, which, who were they to say that he's made his point? Like, he just got wrecked. You know, his car's wrecked. I don't feel like he felt like he made his point yet.

I think he expressed that on the radio when they told him that you've done that. Because I think Lambert relayed the message of, all right, they said, you've made your point. And he said, ha, no,

no, I have not made my point yet. Like, I was like a kid on the morning to Christmas every time they called each other. I was like, all right, here he comes again. I know. So do you think that NASCAR should have not even made the comment and just let them

going, ready? Yes. I don't know. Listen, if you're going to turn a blind eye to it, then turn a blind eye to it and ignore it because all you've done now is put out there in the world that you're watching this happen and you're okay with it. Like, okay. Like, we saw him run them all over the place, obviously the first time.

And NASCAR saw it because they said, you've made your point. And then what he proceeded to do was run him all over the place. every other time you passed them and NASCAR still didn't do a thing about it. They really pissed me off because we're, I can't, we already can't see a quarter of the racetrack. And I try to watch him. Now I got to watch you and my card. So what was going to be really interesting? And I wish that, I don't know if Denny knew this or not or, but after the nine put the one on the wall,

first of all, the nine sends the one up the hill. And I thought it was Denny because it was, they were both in the back. And I just assumed I saw the one take off because it was like right behind me. So it was still in my peripheral. And I saw him go up the hill and I just assumed it was. Denny. So I look back to like look fine where Denny's at and it's not Denny. It was the nine and all of a sudden because we can't see

him, Denny comes out from behind one of these stages and just like sideswipes the one on the way by. It was like a triple threat match of WWE. So that's what he gets in front of him now. He's got damage from the chase wreck. So he's on the DVP clock and Denny's blocking him and if

Ross had one more lap. If Danny held him up for one more lap, Ross is out of the race because he can't make minimum speed behind the 11th. This is when I'm talking about Ross being punked. Yeah, oh yeah. Imagine if he actually accomplished that. Could you imagine? No.

That would have been the funniest thing in the history of the sport. So would NASCAR give him another lot because he didn't get the chance to show it? They parked me last week for it. Yeah. You have three laps to make minimum speed. You don't do it. You don't do it. You better be on the trailer like we were.

So, you know, I was praying. He could have put a situation. I was literally on Channel 2 talking to Chris Rice going, they're not at minimum speed out here. They got to park them. I'm like, I'm telling you. This was the best thing to happen all weekend. For me, the thing that I don't, like this whole deal I thought was, you know, Ross wrecked Danny.

Danny's like messing with Ross or the rest of the day of his, like miserable. But when when Justin Marks comes out and says, my guy did nothing wrong, his view must have been worse than ours. I don't know how that's possible, but like, I know we couldn't see shit. He really couldn't see if that's the case because, I mean, he literally wrecked Danny, flat out wrecked Denny, turned the nine, ran over the 22 and a three wide situation. Ran over the 34, almost wrecked him. Like, listen, he was, and

Ross, for Ross to get out of the car and go, I drove like an ass-h-h-h-h-h-h-a-day, and then the car and I go, he did nothing wrong. It's fine. Like, I don't, I don't buy that. He's got his guy's back. I get that. But here's where we talk about this with Ty Gibbs earlier in the year. You say can't wait. You respond to Denny's tweet that

says, you know, Denny's comments that say you're going to wreck Ross, and you respond, can't wait. Are you really saying you can't wait? Because is what's going to happen when somebody, I mean, somebody, whether it's Denny, whether it's these guys, whether it's AJ. Ross is pissed off a lot of people. At some point, somebody is going to pay Ross back.

Are you really going to sit there and go, it's okay? That's fine. It's good hard racing. What if they all just have enough of it and just do it in like three or four consecutive races? Yeah. I mean, he can't wait. You can't wait for it. I said it yesterday.

I think Justin Marks is a awesome dude. Great. He's done a lot for the sport here. He's done a lot. He's done more in a short amount of time than anybody in a lot of calls. by the end of cars. You look at Michael Alter racing. They come in and struggle to get up and running.

Red Bull, $60 million budget, struggle to get up and running. Obviously, Justin's in a unique situation. He bought an existing race team. But Chip Ganassie racing was never relevant in a championship conversation. They had the best driver in the world, and they barely won multiple races, multiple years. So for Justin to come in with his leadership and to do what they're doing, it's impressive. But as an owner, you have to mature. and realizing that sending that tweet out was stupid as part of the maturity process.

And I think it's cool that he's got a driver's back. I agree. And on top of that, I mean, if you look at what he's doing, bringing in, like, international drivers. And he has done more, like you said, than anybody. And if he has an opinion on it, there's obviously more than you're not realizing. I listen. I am all for Justin Marks. I'm all for everybody over at trackhouse.

I think what they've done is incredible. And if he really, truly can't wait. and somebody, if Denny goes out there and Rex Ross in the first round of the playoffs and knocks them out of the playoffs and he don't say a word about it, kudos to him because that's what he's setting himself up for here. He's saying yesterday where everything that Ross did is fine. When it comes back to Ross, you better have the same opinion. Well, continuing on the topic of drama at Gateway and Denny Hamlin,

Ricky Stenhouse spins Bubble Wallace in front of Denny Hamlin and Hamlin pulls up to Stenhouse under caution, then says, running 30th. Why is he wrecking for 30th? Spot on, spot off. Ready. Spot on for the boss. We were trying to get going again and I look up and we got rolling finally down the front stretch and I look up and Denny's got the 47 hemmed up against the wall and one and two. I'm like, oh, I just realized that he was right behind us when that happened. But listen, this was a product of two guys having a miserable day. Ricky ran dead last for pretty much the

entire race. I think Cody. Cody Wear drove by. Cody Ware run around him one time. He was having a bad day. And then we, this is after we had gotten run over by Harrison. So now we're in the back. We're having a bad day. And we were better than the 47, but we couldn't pass them. It was just one of them deals where we're better, better, but you just can't get around the guy.

So we finally got underneath him in one and two. And Bubba kind of ran him wide off of two to get the spot. You know, we were three quarters of the way clear. And Bubba kind of just kept moving up to make, you know, make Ricky lift and get behind us. And when he got behind us, he just went to three. and wrecked us. And listen, if that's how he wants to race for 30th, I mean, I think they said 30th.

I'm pretty sure we were running 70th at this point. It felt like. You were right behind me, so I agree. But I mean, listen, like Danny says, like we're literally running probably 28th and 29th or something like that. Like, I don't know that we need to wreck each other for that. But listen, if that's the message he wants to send

and that's how he wants to go forward, I mean, these guys raise each other hard a lot. And we usually find ourselves around Ricky pretty often. So it's not the first time. has happened. But yeah, this is the second week in a row. We're talking about something that Ricky Stenhouse did that we didn't necessarily think was going to be beneficial to him.

Last week, he's MFing one of the best drivers in the field, who also is his manager. And this week, he's wrecking one of the more prominent figures in our sport bubble 430th place. So Ricky, those guys a lot of times overachieve. You know, Brian Patty, what they're doing over there with JTG. They don't have all the resources that these big teams have. And I think you just have a super competitive. I think Ricky's a talented race car driver.

and I just think he's frustrated, but it made the race better. I literally watched it happen, and I started laughing because I was like, did he really just wreck him for freaking wherever they're running? And I thought it was funny. So I'm going to say spot on because hell it wasn't me. It was right behind me.

Yeah, it did. It didn't really affect us either. So it was entertaining. So, you know, I'm spot on for it because it just adds another topic to our sheet right here. And it's good to have topics. So spot on for the topic. It's always fun when you can,

like I had the opportunity to tell Bubba, oh, he's going to wreck you. Like, you know, like, it's not like, it's like, you see him coming from two back and he's like, ah, he's wrecking you. Brad made a couple comments. So what did he say after he got wrecked? He did not say a word.

Bubba is very good about, like, he won't, he did say something later that we won't get into, but he's very good about not like the, now when Harrison ran us over, he got real mad. He says, son of a, Harrison, not again. Because this is, you know,

this is a continuous thing with the 21. But, you know, when Ricky wrecked him, Booty had to say something and to get a reaction out of Bubba. But yeah, Bubba didn't say a word when it happened. Switching gears to the Xfinity race,

leader Ty Gibbs gets spun by Jesse Owoji under caution in the Xfinity race at Portland. Freddie, you can just have my time on this one because you're going to have a field day with it. Yeah. Actually, I'm curious. I've already had a field day with it.

I mean, I hate to say I told you so, but I told you so. I mean, What else is there to say? Spot on. I don't even know what the hell the question was, but... That he gets spun by Jesse Endercock. I couldn't believe my eyes.

Like, me and Brett were at a bar watching this in St. Louis. And we were actually with Tony Hirschman, who spots for the 54 normally, but obviously wasn't there this week. And the camera cuts to the 54 stopped on the racetrack. And I'm like, we're like, whoa, what happened? He must have broke, you know, transmission, something. Like, he stopped. And then he took off and we're like, oh, no, he's fine.

I don't know why you stop. And then the replay pops up and you're like, oh, wow, somebody ran him over. At this time, I still don't realize who ran him over. And then it pumbs into my screen and I'm like, no way. Are we serious now? Like, this has gone too far. And I just looked at Brett.

I was dumbfounded. I looked at Brett and I didn't know what to say at that point. I mean, listen, we've said it on here before. I guess I'll just continue to bash this. Well, Brett's tweet pretty much. Yeah, Brett, spot on, spot on. I'm about spit my drink out when I saw the tweet. This was the racing God's way of paying back Ty Gibbs for all the people that Ty Gibbs has run over in the past two years.

I think this was karma and I don't really believe in karma. So I'm going to be spot on for the fact that Jesse Ougi can't drive and he ran over Ty Gibbs. Your karma got their spot back though. Well, I mean, yeah, you got a spot back. And I think, I mean, I don't know how to do that the litter of the law, but he should have got a spot back in my opinion. He got ran over from behind. He had the best car in the field by a lot.

He threw that away later all on his own. But I mean, failure to maintain is failure to maintain whether you spin out or whether you. He should not have got a spot back now. He should not have got a spot back. But by the rules, by the rules, he should not have got a spot back. You failed to maintain pace. It just goes back to, and I've talked about it on here five times. Owoji exceeded pace.

They should have gave him 10 spots right out past. He was going. He definitely exceeded pace. He just, listen, nice guy. I met him a couple times. Yeah, credible dude. Great. Has a knack for finding sponsors.

You know, that car always seems like it has a sponsor on it. He has a knack for finding other cars, too. He does not belong. It has just zero awareness. He's a danger to himself. He's a danger to the other cars on the racetrack. If NASCAR does not step in at some point, he's going to hurt himself or somebody else. And it can't happen.

You know, it's, it's, I don't understand how. we continue to let him out there. Like, it's just, I, it, it's mind-boggling to me. I don't, I don't know. And his excuse was, oh, they told me to pass him. Okay. Well, that doesn't mean you have to pass him right now. Like, that where you're trying to pass him is not a good idea.

It's a big track. He's trying to get caught back up. I don't care. Like, you know the deal. Like, if they tell you to pass a guy, you normally wait for a, especially at a road course like that, wait for a straightaway, wait for not launch it in there and then come out and say, well, the 54 was taking a big arc to the corner. I told the 47 to pass you. Like, what? What do you mean? He was arcing the corner under yellow. Like, you don't have any

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TJ. I don't, maybe you guys see it differently, but I don't see from the videos that I saw, they got there fairly quickly, in my opinion. If you see the here, the videos, you can still hear trucks going by at like motors and they're looking for them. You can see their heads turning. First, you know, if you need help, don't drop your window net, first of all. That to me, when you drop your window net, what does that mean? Signifies you're okay.

It tells everybody that you're okay. Be safe getting to that, be safe getting to the car, truck, whatever it is. So, and I guess the antenna, the antenna got. got knocked off the truck too, did it? We were talking about that earlier because there was no radio communication. Yeah, I don't know what happened. And that happens a lot. Like the radio can come unplugged. The radio can get knocked out of the holder.

A lot of things could happen there. So to me, I thought the safety crew was there. You know, I thought, I mean, I know he's in there going help or whatever, but they have headphones. They have headsets on with radios and stuff. They're probably listening to commands and stuff at the same time. Yes, they cannot hear him. And his window nest down.

So if you're walking to a car of a safety worker and you're looking at his winter now, are you going to put yourself in danger real quick to get there even faster? Because his window nest down, you think he's getting ready to pop right out, which is what I thought he was going to do. So I think there's a lot of unnecessary criticism for the safety crew here. You know, when you play it and try to line it up, you can make it look worse than what it was. You can make a lot of things look worse.

But I thought they did. I thought they got there when, you know, leave your window net up if you need help. The numbers are simple. After, now you look at a video and you say, well, the truck stopped. Okay, you've got to also take the fact that the truck has now got to stop. You still see trucks driving through the- It was near the front of the field. The wreck was.

We were running fifth, like fourth and fifth. So you got 30 trucks to come by still. There are still trucks. By the time the last truck goes by to the time they get to these trucks, 19 seconds for the two guys on the bottom, 41 seconds for the guy on the top. And you see a cleanup truck. they obviously don't have enough people right there to tend to all the drivers.

So a second safety truck pulls up and 15 seconds after that truck pulls up is when they get to Carson. They're the last truck to get there. And like you said, he made him a mistake by dropping his window net because that signifies there's not an emergency here. Yeah, he was a lane and a half off the bottom of the track. If he would have slid down on the two car links that had been in him right away. Like they were literally, the two guys on the bottom, the five and whoever else piled into the five,

19 seconds. After the last truck goes by, there's there. I don't know how you can do that any faster when you consider that they're not standing there waiting. They have to get in a truck, drive over there. You don't drop in. Yeah. They should be in the truck. But they still got to drive over there, get out, get to the driver.

So I think this was kind of low-hanging fruit after the kind of the debacle last week with the time it took to flip the car over. And I think people kind of piled onto that. Oh, look how terrible this is. And obviously it sounds awful when you listen to Carson's scream for help. and tell him, but I don't know what anybody expected them to do. They got there in a timely matter, in my opinion. Did you want them to drag him out with a broken foot or whatever

he's got going on? Like, he's got to sit there and wait for the ambulance people to show up and then figure out a few more seconds off. If he leaves the window and up, they probably knock a little bit of time off that. They would probably go to him first. You know, if that window net's up and them two guys, because the two guys on the bottom, their window nets are down. There's the one starting to climb out. The other one's kind of daisy, but days, daisy.

But, you know, they're, they get there first because they're, you know, their closest ones to him. If his nets up, they're going to go there first. I just, I just didn't see. Spotter could also get to the NASCAR official,

and I don't know if he did or not. Yeah. And, hey, my guy needs help. Yeah, well, he don't know because, like,

we talked about the radio probably got knocked out. Like, I never heard any radio communication. You know, the audio that you hear is from the in-car camera from the TV, you know, production. So I don't know.

I don't know what they could have done differently. I mean, obviously you want them there immediately. But within, you know, 15 seconds. of pulling up to the scene being there, I don't know what else you could have done differently. Who drives the five truck?

I think it's Tyler Hill. I don't think that was Timmy. Yeah, I think it's Tyler Timmy's brother. I mean, you talk about a Woo-Can drive. This guy is piling into this wreck at a high rate of speed. For the safety crew perspective, when they show up, all the trucks looked about the same in terms of how bad they were damaged. They were three trucks severely damaged.

So I don't know how you would pick which one gets service first other than the So if he dropped his window net, like you guys are saying, he basically surrendered immediate help. But to me, you're still only talking about, I looked at the video. I saw it was like 16 seconds into the video, the last truck cleared the accident, which means the safety crew can actually get out there onto the track and do their job. It was only 45 seconds after that when they were at his window. That's not really that long. I don't see an issue.

I mean, like I said, leave your winter and up so they know you need help. Then they can be more urgent. It could have been 20 seconds. instead of 45. If he'd have followed protocol. But he's in a traumatic situation. He's in pain. And even though his foot's broke,

he may not know it's broke. He may be like, I got to get out of here before I get hurt worse, you know? And it's, you know, like you, how many bones you guys have broke, but like instantly, you don't know.

You know what you mean? Like it's the kind of adrenaline's pumping. You drop the net thinking you're going to get out. Then maybe when you go to put the weight on, you know, you're pushing out of the car with your feet, you go, oh, wait a minute,

I got a problem here. So he might not have known. And it's, It's, I think 90% of the time, everybody's going to drop their net. Like, it's just natural to want to get the hell out of there with their wreck like that. But then you talk about the five, listen, yes, he hit him a ton. But it's also in the same area where we said we couldn't see. So it's possible that they might not have seen that wreck.

You know what I mean? So who's that on? I don't know. It's on whoever said okay to that spotter stand. Who ever put that damn screen over there in the middle of one and two? I was watching on TV. I could see fine. But had I been on the spotter stand, you're right.

I might not see anything. You know how sometimes are, and I'm not, you know, I'm not, you know, it's whatever Tyler saw. If that was Tyler, then, you know, you make quick decision when there's a wreck and there's a car sliding down. And sometimes it doesn't work out. And you're not. I mean, obviously, he wasn't trying to hit him. But sometimes you speed up and try to get by a car to get this coming down. I mean, it's a greenway checker restart.

And there's going to be a lot of guys around. And a lot of times something like that happens where, I mean, this is probably happened to 90% of the people on the highway. The car in front of you is driving ahead, you know, you're following a guy in front of you, all of a sudden, he, darts out of line because there's something stopped or something in the road in front of him and now you have to react late to it you know so he might not a seat he might have been looking it's a restart it was a green white checker

so he's probably up you know on somebody's bumper into one that guy darts a certain way and oh boom there's a truck sitting there you know there's a lot of factors and like we said he might not be able to nope he might not have got a lot of warning because you couldn't really see over there I hate it for Carson because he was he was fun to watch this year

unfortunately it sounds like he's going to be out for a while yeah He's been fun to watch this year. Kids got a big personality. Looking forward to him getting healthy and back and, you know, competitive again because he's been fun to watch and making things happen. Brett, this one's for you. Stuart Haas Racing's Brian Murphy tweeted,

it's unfortunately become apparent being authentic, transparent, and educational poses a real threat to my employment in this sport. It's not my job to provide these services, so I no longer will. Spot on, spot off. That's a hard one for me to swallow, Casey. Like, obviously I know Brian Murphy, he came on our podcast about a month or so ago to talk about, you know, kind of how you get into racing, right? And he's been very vocal on social media about things that he feels and sees and knows about our sport. And I feel like it's educational and beneficial to our fan base to have somebody like him doing this role.

I'm spot on for him saying to his followers, hey, my content is going to drastically change here. or I'm going to lose my job, right? Because otherwise, all his followers, you know, 7,000 plus followers that he's got are going to be like, man, what happened to this guy? He get his wings clipped. So for him to come out and say that, I thought was pretty spot on. But when I look at this, TJ, I think there's four entities that could potentially have a problem with his tweets. First and foremost would be his crew chief. Okay.

His crew chief could be a guy that comes down on him and says, hey, stop doing this. It could also be the organization as a whole, which is going to come at like the president, Brett Fruit or Greg Zipadelli, right? But if Rodney Childers didn't have, Rodney Childers was very active on Twitter. If he didn't have a problem with it and Greg Zipadelli and Brett Fruit didn't have a problem with it, you know, it's very possible that Ford had a problem with it, right? They're obviously the OEM in that situation. Maybe he put out something that they didn't appreciate or the top dog in this whole thing,

and they've called me to the Trump before because of my Twitter is NASCAR, right? So there's four people, one of those four people entities, right? Either a crew chief, a general manager president type, NASCAR or an OEM, sat him down and said, stop. And I am spot off for that because I really felt like he was doing a great job of providing Jason. Awesome content for our fans. I just wish they to set parameters and said, hey, don't go outside of this box. You can still have fun with social media, but unfortunately, doesn't sound like that's the case. Yeah, I mean, like you said, we're especially on this,

podcast. We try to keep it as authentic as possible. And listen, I think Danny said it on Dale Jr. download. And he was on there a couple weeks ago. I've had conversations with my team about stuff that's set on here. And, you know, not that they've ever like chastised me at any moment, but it's like, hey, just, you know, watch what you're saying. Remember, you're kind of representing our organization and whatnot. But that's the way I feel like it should be handled. Like not, Freddie, if I say one thing that upsets them, that's it. You know, you got to get out the podcast. you got to stop tweeting, you got to stop, you know, doing whatever. So it's unfortunate that he kind of got cut off completely because, like you said,

a lot of his views on the sport and some of his insights of how the cars are being built and stuff like that was very educational for our fans. And I would think that you would want the fans to kind of gravitate towards that. And they, that would kind of, in my opinion, would gravitate towards your team. So I have a hard time believing it's a team-related deal. You know, I would lean more towards the NASCAR or the OEM side of it. you know, it is what it is and it's unfortunate because like you said, I've known Brian a long time. Him and me and him came kind of through the same razz. Mike Herman kind of got us both down here.

So it's, it's unfortunate for him. And I know it's unfortunate for him because I know kind of how much it meant to him. You know, I think he took a lot of pride in the fact that he could kind of bring that information to people and share it with him. So the fact that he can't anymore is unfortunate. DJ. Yeah, I really enjoyed his knowledge. I learned things from him myself. I thought he was very knowledgeable on a lot of things. but I did it in a fairly good way. So, I'm... Talk about your own personal culture of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, with, with Rouse Finway.

We don't talk about that. We don't talk about that. Like, can you, can you, can you honestly say that you're able to be, it's obvious to our listeners, because they tweet about it. We even joke around about it. Like, are you in a more comfortable position now because of the team you're with? Oh, absolutely. Well, yeah. I mean, obviously, when you, when you're, when, when, when, when, when, when, when, you're, when, when,

friends is one of the owners there. You're in a much better, you know, you're just comfortable. It also shows like the difference in teams too, where there are certain teams that are more higher profile, more. Some teams are very strict, you know, with what's being said. And, you know, that was definitely, you definitely felt like, not that, not that anything was ever said to me, but I didn't want to cross that bridge. I didn't want to have any of them conversations. So you're always very protective of what you say. do to not have those conversations. And, you know, you still do that to a certain point now, but you're just not, you know, it's easier. It's just come more comfortable now for sure.

Yeah. Switching to Sonoma this weekend, we will now be reverting back to running the shoot instead of the carousel this weekend. Finally. I hate the carousel. Did you ever spot the carousel? Okay. Um, yeah, I think this, I think this track configuration and lends itself to more action for the NASCAR cars. You know, we have multiple passing zones here now, I think. Like, I feel like last year, the last two years, it was 2020 we started, right? I think we ran two on the carousel.

And it seemed to me like really turn 11 was the only super passing zone now where you've got turn four, turn seven of them same kind of, where you can set up a dive-bom or run the guy wide off of four. So I just feel like it's going to lend itself to having more. more action throughout the race. Four is the far end. Four is the one that's like they come over the tent. That's four or five is the far corner, right?

Hold on a minute. Five and seven maybe. Four is the far. Four is the 90 degree right-handed. You come up to us to top of the hills one. That's three. Then you got two. You got three, three-a.

Four is that right-hander. Four is the hard right and then seven is the other hard right. So the one's the left-hander up the hill. Yes. Two is the right-hander. Yes. Three and three-a. Three and three-a.

And then four is the-down. Down the hill. The far is where they always get the pictures where the cars are halfway up in the air. Or is that freaking passing zone if you got your stuff together. So when you get to the top of the hill and you come out of 3A, the cars are very light right there. There's a lot of wheel spin. There's a lot of grip issues. We see type people drop.

There's a lot of dirt flying. Yes. But that, you know, why that's happening is because they're on the edge right there. And when you're on the edge, someone's not getting a throttle down, right? There's a passing zone at that next deal. And what's cool is if two guys going to their side by side, the guy behind them's like, oh, this is going to be great in five. And also it brings back the restarts for instance or honestly it's one of my favorite tracks for restarts because they're side by side.

Sonoma is actually one of my favorite tracks because we can pretty much see the whole track. And I think it's got a little bit of everything. It's got a damn hairpin. It's got two, three different passing zones. It's got a little bit of everything, I think. And it's just one of my favorite places. I think it's a great race track. It's got the rhythm section there, the yasses.

When I would go there with Sterling back in the day, he would normally wait for somebody to get sideways there and aim for him so we could get out of there. Sterling hated road course racing. He did hate it. He absolutely hated road course racing. He'd tell you he hated it. Oh, 100%.

I've probably changed or been a part of more motor changes with Sterling and Marlin at road courses than I have the rest of my entire crazy career. I'm spot on for going to, I think it's a beautiful area. The weather is almost always phenomenal. I am also spot on for this change back to what we need to be running for the NASCAR track. I am, this is the second road course of the year, right?

So teams are going to get a little bit better. They learned a lot at Cota. It'll be interesting to see what teams make gains, you know, what teams don't. But, man, road courses are the new short tracks. I mean, they're where exciting things happen. And if you've got guys running on top each other at the end of stages or at the end of the race getting into 11, they're two and three wide down there. You know, and this is where, you know, that one year, Ross Chastain went in there and wrecked and then just took off and short-cutted the whole thing and gained like five positions. They didn't even penalize him.

So, but, I mean, my point to that is officiating is going to be a big deal. We talk a lot about officiating on this show. It's part of our game. It's part of our sports. So a lot of pressure on the booth this weekend to make all right calls. You weren't doing the truck race, where are you? I was watching the truck race. We actually had a guy screw the choose up

and was going to serve a penalty for it. Good. Remember that? Oh, yeah. Laptown truck. Yeah. No, yeah, he was a lap down there. He didn't move all the way to the back.

It's 33 truck what are you talking about? Yeah, they were going to give him a drive-through. Screwing the choose up. Screwing the pooch. Is that what you said? Basically. Hey, one thing we didn't talk about is the race length. Gateway. I said it was spot on.

I didn't hear you say the race length. Three hours. Just over three hours? Perfect. It was. 200 mile races. It was packed with action the whole time and it didn't feel too long and it didn't feel too short. Sonoma's another one. I usually love their race distance as well. Yeah.

Well, lucky for you guys. Adam Stern announced that we will be back at Gateway next year. That's good. Awesome. We knew that was coming. I couldn't have guessed. Yeah. The one thing about the good thing about Sonoma going back to this configuration, less spotters, at least for me. I'm only bringing one other guy. Last year we had three, you know, so three total. I forgot that we need extra spotters.

So you just said that. But the good news is Chris Rice is on top of it. I'm sure he is. I hope I get Lenny. Lenny's my favorite guy to be my same spotter. What's the bus driver's name? Will. Neil.

Neil. Neil. Neil. Neil spotted with me somewhere, Koda. I don't think he plugged his radio in. I'm still waiting from the talk. Hey, what's up, everybody? Freddie and I are excited to tell you about our new lifestyle racing brand Couchraceracer. Our website is Couchracershop.com, and we're about to share code with you shortly to get you a free gift.

First of all, if you're already listening to DBC, you are definitely a couch racer. You love racing, you love to watch and talk racing. You're smarter than the racers that are in the game. And Brett and I, when we're not at the racetrack spotting, we are at home being couch racers ourselves. We sure are, man. Couchracershop.com is the most inclusive race. racing brand in the world. Couchracershop.com is our website, and it's where you'll find awesome racing designs. We have our Freddie shirt, line of spot on apparel, our CouchRacer branded items,

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look at the f***ate all the time. I'll only tell you this fucking data. Hey Freddy just letting you know we got the beige GMC out in the parking lot in case you want to have Bubba come out and hit us like you said everything out on the track so. Hey now Jason got a message for you get out of Dylan's ass

Reaction theater starts now Jesse Wooji? More like Jesse, you what an idiot! What the hell are you doing? Look, I don't like Ty Gibbs as much as the next guy right now, but what the hell are you doing, man? Oh my God, that is top-notch stupidity.

And if he ain't Brett Griffin's What an Idiot, I'm going to be severely disappointed. That's a long list. I know you guys are a bunch of Denny Hamlin Sims, but he needs to be black flagged. that's just absolutely ridiculous. Ross bumped him. He bumped him.

This is NASCAR. We allow bumping. What he's doing is 10 times worse. He should be parked. Or Ross just needs to put him in the fucking fence and end him for good. I got it unlike Denny. I don't think he likes him. He bumped him.

Just bumped him a little bit. I mean, what did Danny do? He never even touched him. He was going slow trying to get out of the way. I love our fans. Some days you're the bat, some days you're the ball. It's never fun when you're the ball. Matt Kenseth would be so proud.

And so would Tony Stewart teaching these new guys a lesson. You can't just race like a d-a-a-the-whole the whole time and expect everyone to be okay with it. He raced like a Richard? Richard. I don't think he got him back. The guy got a top. Where does he finish? Sixth.

Eight. Eight. Oh, yeah. A terrible day for Ross Chastain. Yeah. Rex four people and finishes 8th. It ain't a bad day for us. I wish he would have got parked for minimum speed.

That'd have been funny. I'm sick and tired of these damn tire problems. If it's the teams, we need to go ahead and find penalties for this because I'm tired of this ruin my race every 25 laps. You want to take four weeks off for a tire falling off. Let's figure something out for this. He is either a Chase Griscoe fan or a Ryan Blaney fan, which one you think it is.

I just don't understand, okay, well, why don't you tell them there's certain limits on things. They're sketchy to go past. And, yeah, it's faster when you do, obviously, but there's a risk involved with that. So we cut a tire in practice, and we think that the rumble strips in turn one contributed to it. You know, because there was, it looks like it's hard to describe. It looks like teeth on a gear almost, you know. So something was doing it, though. Yeah, but like, and it's not, and it was lap five, we cut a tire.

So it wasn't like it was a camber issue or an air pressure issue because, you know, that wouldn't have shown up until a little bit later on. I don't think. But still it could be, I mean, is it self-inflicted? I think ours was self-inflicted. I think a lot of them are. And I think like Brisco's, I think is, you know, a set-up issue. You know, he can only run whatever it was, 40 laps, whenever he got his flat.

And then. It's weird. He was super fast, huh? Yeah. We're so weird how that works, right? Same with the 12. The 12 was super fast. It's weird how that works.

It's just, you know, that's... We talked about Y on here, but it is just crazy the transition of you used to go to places and you were so worried about that right front. Now you're not. It's the exact opposite corner. That's at left rear. Yeah.

After all that, the 22 and the 18 race clean as can be. I ain't mad at it, but I wasn't expecting it. Didn't have it on my bingo card. I thought the 22 ran 18. Sorry about your boss. sucks a suck. Dang, damn. Sucks the Suck.

I thought the 22 ran to 18 way up the track and wanted to and took a complete advantage of him. Kind of like what you're talking about. Bubba did to get clear of Ricky. He was here on Joey right at his door and Joey just kept coming, coming, coming, eventually Kyle had to lift and Joy cleared him. It's weird.

That probably would have worked at Darlington too. Yeah. I don't know how that's funny how that works. I thought that, I mean, Joey was doing what he needed to do to win the race at that point. He probably wasn't going to clear Kyle unless he did something like that. And honestly, Kyle made a mistake in three and four. He overdrove the middle there and let Joey clear him.

But the winners in this are the fans. They get to see these guys swapping the lead. No matter who it is, it's still fun to watch two guys go for the win and somebody's not out front and just stealing the air from somebody. These guys are going after, and it was fun to watch. Two of the best in the game. Fans on their feet. You're right.

Fans of the winners. Yes, hello. This is a welfare. check for a t j majors uh we know you get a little cranky after your old boss uh wins a race so we have the wambulance on standby with a fresh bottle and a new diaper for you also we have some chapstick because i'm sure freddie's uh lips are going to be a little sore from all the ass kiss and he's going to do jesus denny made an ass for himself this weekend good lord the guy got wrecked and he can't i mean i don't know i'm starting to feel bad for danny i think he made a ass at a ross i don't

know that he's I mean obviously I have to be swayed in my opinion but whatever he's done I mean he he is he's the most entertaining person in the cup series but see like he doesn't he's like it's funny because he can and I've been kind of in this position before with somebody you get wrecked and you're still the bad guy we got destroyed at Bristol and you would have thought we shouldn't even have been on the racetrack you were in the way uh yeah don't don't there is no um You don't need to send him ambulance here. It's my, you like to see a good race, no matter what. Everyone come out of, I'm not going to lie.

I bet I was glad to see Harvard cop out of that car. Well, me too. He hit a dog. Yeah. On that topic, I saw a tweet from Jeff Gluck saying that drivers are saying that the next-gen end impacts feel harder, even if it doesn't look as bad. Is that what you're hearing as well? I wish we would have asked Jeff Burton at when he was in here because he and I had a long talk

about this about two months ago, kind of after the Eric Amarola hit at the L.A. Coliseum and then a couple of these big hits at Atlanta. And what I was told is that these cars, for whatever reason, when they hit the wall with a small impact, the wall doesn't move enough to dissipate the energy and the driver gets the majority of the force of the hit. So some of those small hits are massive inside the car because everything that the energy-wise, the driver's feeling it, when it hits hard enough to actually move the wall compared to the old car, this car is safer. So the small medium hits are hurting the most. But like when they show the data on backing the car in, like the energy is terrible for the driver.

It's a massive hit, but they see no injuries coming from that style of hit. So again, this is just information that I've been told is not scientific stuff that I've personally seen. but yeah, I mean, that Harvick hit, oh. That was not a small medium, yeah. I was like, oh, when I saw that hit, I was like, oh, that hurt. It looked to me. It looked to me like something like right front caliber blew out or something because getting into one, getting into three, you saw a puff of black smoke and then it looked

like the rear brakes were locked up. So it looked like he almost blew something in the front and the rear brakes locked up and spun him out. But man, he was just along for the ride. He hit a ton. I was glad to see him hop out of there. I mean, I saw him walk in the air. I saw him walk by me at the airport.

and he was fine. So I'm sure he's sore today, but I was glad to see him get out of there. Moving on to the next one. He's going on. Michael McDowellon, seeing the league. Cody Burke is running in the top of team.

And he's driving like George Jones. Dude, he's good. Oh, he's the best. I don't think of this guy. He was at somewhere. God, that's right. He was. And I didn't get a chance of seeing him.

Martinsville, maybe. Had two or three sentences in it. It was good. Maybe I'll come play for the suite in Bristol. Yeah, that'd be perfect. That'd be awesome. We'd line that up. That'd be great.

Jeff Burton, my sister thinks. She probably still thinks it. Hopefully by now she's figured out. It depends on how many fireball she's had. That's true. So Danny was going to wreck the dog food out of. He's going to, he wasn't not going to yesterday. He's going to somewhere down the road.

You know what? I'm pissed off. He did not use that term. Why did he not key up? I don't think anybody's going to use that one again for a while. Oh, send us a song. a message or whatever you'd like on doorbubber clear, go to anchor.fm. slash doorbubber clear and click the message icon.

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I like it. Same, probably. Ready? My wife would have had a guest home at Brett's house for me to get the hell off the property, probably. Yeah, I don't know what Megan would want. She'd probably want a pool at Brett's.

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This is, I don't know where, what position he exactly ended up in, but I thought he was competitive all day and hung a right around. He led a little bit and hung right around that top five. This is going to be surprising, but I mean you to have to Eric Jones. I thought he's going to have a chance to win at one point. I did too. He was quietly hanging out right in the right area. So, and not many, not many probably noticed it, but I'm going to give to Eric Jones. Ready? My X-Finity X-5, more than fast moment. It's going to go to the 22.

Had the race in control, lost the lead on the second of last restart, came back on the last restart to kind of outrun Kyle, out-dule him, if you will, kind of won the dog fight there, took his lane away and then just drove back by him in three and three. for it. So I'll get mine to Joey Ligano. I got to go. He's Finity X-5. More than Fast moment to AJ. I'm a dinger. I mean, to bring that Neutronic Solutions Chevrolet back as quick as he did from all the deficits he put himself into. Holy cow. And I still think it's one of the biggest comeback wins ever by a driver to pull that off. So congrats to AJ. I got on the plane yesterday with him. And I was like, man, I didn't know whether to text you that night and congratulate you.

I was scared you were sleeping or this morning. And he's like, dude, I'm so tired and dehydrated. I just want to go home and get some rest. But props to those guys, man. colleague racing and Xfinity series at road courses on plate tracks, they're on fire. Here on Doorbubber Clear, being more than fast is a way of life. Thankfully, there's plenty of weekly action for our Xfinity X-Fi more than fast moments. You know what else is more than fast? X-Fi. With a speed for all your devices, you also get the reliability and security that keeps your crew connected and protected.

With Xfinity X-Fi, you can do more of what you love with a faster internet and a powerful and secure connection. Follow at Xfinity Racing on Twitter for even more Xfinity. X-5 more than fast moments and Casey don't forget to vote for your favorites. Thank you to Xfinity, proud premier partner of NASCAR. What an idiot. Let's move on to what an idiot. Brett, who's a go-to? I don't even know what to do right here.

Do you need to like rank them? Well, I hate to give out the honorable mentions. And obviously, whoever said okay to the spotter stand wins, what an idiot for the whole show, not just for this segment. But for this segment, two weeks in a row, I got to. give it to him a friend Freddie Kraft. Derek Krauss, had he picked the bottom, would have won the truck race. He opted to not take the front row, to not be on the bottom, and it was heartbreaking for me. I was sitting in the bar throwing beers at the TV because Derek Kraus gave up the front row.

Derek Krauss would not have won the truck race if he chose the bottom. Derek Kraus would have been probably the same spot or wrecked if he chose the bottom. Of course you're going to say that. Well, listen, that's the whole time I checked up and stopped. Yeah, because Derek had him jacked up. Why not just go? Hammer down. I don't know why he couldn't go,

but I know that we tried it twice and we couldn't go. This is the thing. The more that these guys, and these games get played all the time, they watch each other going into the restart zone and they start slowing down. When you slow down and go late,

when you hit that restart zone, every foot that you go into that restart zone is giving you. You're losing more of an advantage. The more, and you're packing everybody up right with you. You're actually giving him a chance to get the guy behind him,

to push him just right even better. Stop screwing around, just go. The thought process was, I could take you right through it. We had two opportunities to restart on the bottom earlier in that race. Not long before that either. You know, maybe 10, 15, 20 laps before that, whatever it was. And we got two terrible restarts on the bottom for whatever reason to the point where, no, no, we just couldn't take off with them.

The leader would be gone. And we could, we were spinning the tires, whatever it was, the leader's gone. So the thought process of race him into terms. one hard was not an option for us because every time we did it the leader was three carlings in front of us. So now what we're going to do is put ourselves in a defensive position into turn one where you're blocking the bottom or you're going to end up middle of three or hooked to the inside wall versus every other restart that we've had in fourth place. We were playing offense off of turn two.

And your thought process is I want to be moving forward through one and two, not trying to block the bottom, risk getting myself wrecked. At that point, our truck was, we had just seen the 98 was the better truck. He had just run us down and went by us. So our options were, in my opinion, to follow him and be playing offense through one and two rather than trying to defend our spot on the bottom. And obviously, with the 98 spinning his tires,

I still think the 51 went early. But, you know, it is what it is. And listen, hindsight. 98 started on the top. He was a leader. And you took the top behind him? Took the top behind him. Yeah.

I'd probably take in the front row and just tried to use him up. But my point, we couldn't because he was gone. You know what I mean? Yeah. If I know that that was an option, if I knew you could jump to start. They do. Yeah. Well, I mean, just like I'm telling you, if I had not restarted on the bottom all day yet,

I would have taken the bottom. But I just saw two restarts on the bottom and they were not going to work out in our favor. I can assure you. This little violin is still playing over here. What violin? You're crying here, man. I'm not crying. I'm just kidding.

That was like four minutes of explanation right there. Well, I'm just taking you through it. You mad, bro? I am mad. I am mad because we were damn leading your race. for five to go and didn't win. I was throwing beers in two. That guy started running you down.

My, did you give one idiot? I mean, my buddy is Jesse Oogie. There's not much more you can say about it. But we do have to tell one story. Have you pictured what an idiot yet? No. Oh, you go next.

So, Chip Weil, he parked right behind me at the airport, gets out, totally leaves his parking pass in the mirror. And I save him. so I almost said the yesterday too I was walking by my car

I'm like oh shit I got my car parker pants yeah I'm like Chip you might want to grab that so wow I'm not gonna do for you down the road I mean I'm hoping for like some sort of uh juice bar with a roof um I'm one of the

covered the stod of stands I lose you I mean well he's probably got a stack of mine he probably got a stack of him I told him that so um but yeah you know it was kind of funny but I sent Chip a shot of fireball during the truck race

actually it was during an extended series race. I hope it was extenance series race. It was during Xfinity series race. They all run together for me. I was at a bar for 42 hours. Brett had breakfast, lunch, and dinner at the same bar. Never left. Had bloodies and then that night I had a steak dinner.

Hey, hey, one thing about that. Three shift changes. My teammate, Mike Herman here, he has to have coffee. He needs his coffee. He has to have his coffee. And then we get to St. Louis.

And it's like on the verge of, late breakfast, early lunch, or, you know, around the edge. So there's a few of us there. We're like, all right, we'll go to this Italian place. I mean, he needs breakfast still. He gets a breakfast pizza. It's just funny. So we were in the middle of practice and the 15 car caught on fire.

Oh, God. Not just a fire. It caught like fire. It's engulfed in flames. And this guy drives into the garage, which I was honestly surprised. He drove it that far, given the amount of smoke and fire that I saw coming out from under the hood out from under the front tires out of the exhaust pipe. So there is a guy, and I wish there was video evidence of this, because I can only try to

recreate this in your mind. There's some video evidence. There was a guy that was kicking the tailpipe trying to put the fire out, okay? First of all, that's not going to work, because we are talking about a freaking three-alarm fire here, but not only did that guy do that, he left the side of the car and started walking around to the front. Did you see what he did? It was slow motion.

He pulled the freaking hoodpins out and went to raise the hood. And when he raised the hood, he jumped back like his hands were on fire. They were. There ain't enough mayonnaise for him to stick his hands in to stop that burn, buddy. Like, what the fuck are you doing? The fact that you're working on a car, it scares me. And I know we have a lot of listeners at Rick Ware Racing and they're going to give whoever this guy is crap. You know who he was?

He was the guy that took the radiator cap off. Oh, at some point. I mean, it was like, so we see him kicking the tailpipe. I saw him kicking the tailpipe. And I'm like, what is he doing? And then he like, he started heading to the front. I'm like, you know that? What's that?

TikTok? Oh, no, no. No, no. No. Like, no, no. Like, you're, no, he's not going to do that. No. And all of a sudden, as soon as he lifts the hood, you realize he's in bad shape.

Yeah. So he actually raised it up. Yes. That's like a ball of fire. He got to do it before he had to drop it because his hands are on fire. Oh my gosh. Like, I saw him kicking the tailpies. That guy's working on his car.

He's like kicking at it. Do you want that guy working on your car? Definitely don't want them putting a fire out. I don't want to turn in wrenches either. So there is a video of it somewhere? Maybe somebody can line that up to that song or the... There's not a video of them laid from the hood, but there's a video just before that. About to do some sketchy shit.

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That's A.N.c.org.f.org.com to get started. Time for DBC picks. Congratulations, Brett. You won at Gateway with Kyle Busch. You are currently leading the standings with four wins. Jason is second with four. sorry, five wins. Jason, second with four, Freddy has three. T.J. and I both have two. I think we found the weak spot for the Chevy's.

I mean, they just weren't that competitive really all day, right? They're terrible. Yeah. Their cars in dirty air are worse than anybody's cars in dirty air right now. We've seen, and it's interesting, we talked about this after Kansas, I think it was, that they took all the manufacturing. extras to the wind tunnel and Ford's been quite a bit better since then for some reason.

Blaney won the All-Star race. You know, they were, they were, they were all fast here. I wonder, I mean, I haven't, normally they announced things when they changed things. Normally, but I'm just, it's been, listen, they were not good and then they did that wind tunnel test and now they've been better. Two Chevroletes that are fast weekend and week out. It's Ross Chastain and Tyler Reddick. Yeah.

And other ones will hit or miss something. Larsson's pretty quick. Yeah, but I mean, not like Kyle Larson. Not like last year when the cars were... Chevroles and dirty air are awful right now. But anyway, DBC Pigs. I will go with AJ. Jason.

Martin Truex Jr. Wow. How are swinging fences. T.J. Boy. KJ. Are you sure AJ's in this race? Shut up.

Oh, boy. I did my research. Okay. Are you sure? I think she's guessing. I'm running on three hours of sleep. She's guessing. Don't piss me off.

Oh. TJ. Okay then. I'm going to go with Cindrick. God dang it. I thought I was going to slide one in on you right there. Michael McDonnell. And you just took the other one.

Now, Prince laying up. He's laying up, man. The problem is there's four road courses left before the playoff starts. You're saying y'all just took all the road course guys because I won last week. All right, so I'm going to swing for the fence because I ain't laying up. I'm going to go with a guy that's coming off the win.

Give me Joy LaGana. Fair. Heading to Sonoma, famous wine country, besides lots of drinking, what can we expect from the race? More action than we've had there the last couple of years, I would think.

Yeah, I just love going out here. Ernie's Ten Bar. If you're a fan and you're listening to this show, I highly recommend you go to Ernie's Ten Bar. Every NASCAR guy that gets a chance to swing by and have a beer there is going to do that. There's no cell phones allowed. And if you pull it out, you have to buy around drinks for the whole bar. It is in the back of a legitimate service station. Really cool atmosphere. And there's a lot of cool dive places

out there around Sonoma, around Napa County. If you pull your phone out. If you pull your phone out. You buy everybody around, right? And they scream at you and embarrass you. Can we do that on this show? Because that's where all my notes are. I'm as smart as my phone. Remember, I Google. everything. Yeah, and here's the deal. We don't ever turn our camera on to check ourselves. We know what that's going to say. We know what that's going to do. Casey, you're so naturally beautiful. You don't need to do that yourself. Her phone and us must not be working today. Thank you. Again, three hours of sleep. I made it to the show on time. I'm kidding. Casey, you look cute. You don't want to, I mean, you could call bread out right now if you want.

What are you calling me out for? Well, last week, you agreed to, you agreed to a later. I've got ADD and I didn't put it in my phone and therefore it didn't exist. The problem is not ADD. The problem is he can't hear. So listen, we've now been in business together for a few months and we've had multiple conversations that he has not even remotely heard. I can't hear. And I'm like, remember we talking about this?

And you're like, no. I'm like, okay. Whatever listeners I talked to at the track last night and I was talking to about Brett, it's all true. Yes. It's always true. Well, thank you all for listening. Don't forget to watch us on MavTV.

Big guest. Big guest next week. I don't even know who it is. Who is it? Next week, well, we are dropping some dead weight and Brett's not coming. But John Hunter's coming. I remember back a few weeks. He earned his way.

He asked to be on DBC, and we couldn't just give him a free pass to come on DBC. Race his way in. So he had to race his way in. So he finished top 10, I think, in both the Xfinity and truck race at Darlington. So he's earned his way in. He's going to come in. He's got some big shoes to fill. Brett's obviously a loudmouth idiot.

so hopefully John Hunter can back that up. He better bring my glasses. Yeah, I was going to say, I hope we can. I hope we can uncover. Is that his daughter, I assume? We can uncover the beef that Freddie and him had. I hope he brings aspirin because I'll probably be hung over. He can bring aspirin and aspirin.

I mean, you might as well just still come drunk and we'll be fine. Was it on Twitter? What? Twitter beef, yeah. Yeah, they were, you know, John Hunter was tweeting at Freddie. They were having a little battle. Oh, we'll have to resurface this conversation. That's what we ran into him at Bristol Dirt Race.

Yeah. Make sure he knows we're on MavTV now and he dresses the part. Like we don't need him on here looking like a beach bum. We need him to come on here and look good. Does he look like a beach bum? Yeah, I don't know what he looks like. What? He needs to know he needs to come on here and look pretty.

Look, who's talking? I'm going to Phoenix, Arizona tomorrow, Oakland, California, Sonoma, California, Charleston, South Carolina. Mertle Beach, South Carolina. I'm going for the next 17 days after today. Mertr Beach, Merton Beach. So I'll be back. Which one?

I'm going to Charleston and Mertle Beach. I'll be back. and in Nashville and obviously on the show for the Monday after the race in Music City, which I can't wait for, by the way. I love me to Nashville. One good thing about the Bristol Sweet appearance is that Freddie will tell Columbia story. Maybe. He might have another story after Merlville Beach.

It's got to sell out. If it doesn't sell out, they can't get the story. Saturday, September 17th, the Bristol Motor Speedway, Dirty Mo Media, ultimate experience. We had multiple people in the Charlotte Dirty. 30. There was a funny story about the one guy. Did we tell it on here last week? I can't remember. But the one guy said, you know, you guys need to do this in Bristol. And Davis is like, yeah, we're doing it in Bristol. And his wife was like, oh boy. This is me we're coming again. Like, it's going to be a blast.

Do you think we can talk Mike into doing? We were only scheduled to do three. And look, it was like pulling teeth to get Mike to do this. And then he all of a sudden was like, man, this is a great idea. And I'm like, yeah, it was a great idea. Excuse me. I brought this up like three years ago. So, okay, you don't want to get in this conversation. because Mike's going to tell you when I brought it up. You weren't even here yet. You weren't even thought about it. You were still inside the egg at that point.

So we do have time to do Las Vegas in October. Again, Las Vegas. We can do Las Vegas twice. And I think people would go to another Las Vegas because Jason, why wouldn't you? Did you have fun in Las Vegas? I'll go again. I want to go and not have to spot.

Just party in the suite all weekend. Yeah, exactly. We need to do this in the off season. I want to have an off season party. We need a chili bowl. A chili bowl, dirty bowl experience. I like it. And then I could be,

then they can get all kinds of stories. But there's no sweets or anything there. We need somewhere. They got, they have sweets. Does there even need to be a race? I mean, we didn't just pick a weekend.

The CBI trailer could be our sweet. Right now, Megan went to the chili bowl this year and was there for four days and had no idea there was a racetrack there until Saturday night when she finally made it to the grand stance. All right. Well, don't forget. Buy your tickets for the Journey Mo Media Experience at Bristol. Listen to or watch the show on Thursday, MavTV, 7 p.m. Eastern,

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