Door Bumper Clear - 258 - Road America: Where's the Line?

Episode Date: July 5, 2022

Door Bumper Clear is back from celebrating the Fourth of July weekend at Road America to break down the road course weekend in Wisconsin. Brett Griffin, T.J. Majors and Freddie Kraft first discuss how they celebrated America’s birthday this past Monday and offer DBC host Casey Boat an opportunity to try her hand at spotting.To begin Spot On, Spot Off, the spotters talk about Tyler Reddick outdueling Chase Elliott to earn his first Cup Series win. They highlight Reddick’s growth since his Xfinity Series titles and the possibility of him leaving Richard Childress Racing at the end of 2023.Sunday’s Cup race did not have a naturally-occurring caution and was one minute shorter than the Xfinity Series race. The guys talk about the drivers’ road course skills and how cautions for stage breaks are hurting the on-track product. Could stage breaks one day be eliminated on road courses? The crew debates.Contact between Noah Gragson and Sage Karam during the Xfinity Series race caused a multi-car pileup. The gang breaks the drivers’ comments after the race and if NASCAR should have penalized Gragson for the incident.Ty Gibbs passed Kyle Larson on the final lap to earn his fourth win of the year. The guys give credit to Gibbs for showing maturity racing against the reigning Cup Series champion and not needing to pull a bump-and-run move on him.No driver in the Cup Series has three wins after the first 18 races for the first time in history. Hear the crew’s thoughts on how many more different winners they think will surface before the playoffs and if any drivers will be able to point their way in.Finally, the guys weigh in on Formula One driver George Russell’s comment about fans not having the right to boo drivers. The guys discuss why Russell needs to have thicker skin and fans might not be booing because they don’t like him as a driver.Finally in Reaction Theatre, fans call about the Noah Gragson and Sage Karam incident, Jesse Iwuji's run, and celebrating Reddick’s first win.     Thank you to our presenting sponsor Offerpad and partners Xfinity and RacingUSA.com for making this show possible. Want more DBC? Check out and subscribe to the new DBC YouTube channel! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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I stop in to me to get that trophy. You know what's this game on. I want to you click. Now we're a big in the circles in the Hall of Fame show. Yo, what's up? This is Door Bumper Clear, presented by Offutt, and I'm Freddie Kraft. We're back after Road America and the 4th of July to talk a first-time winner, drama, and much more.

Today we'll cover Tyler Redick beating Chase Elliott, Noah Gregson triggering a big wreck An F1 driver complaining about getting booed And so much more Jason, let's roll The best in the booth Stumber the Monday to tell you the truth Giving the Finney's and breaking the rules

Good call to the holler to bring it to you Casey you pretty Freddy you fat TJ you suck Breaking so bad Jason is pacing is facing kind of play in this race And if someone don't crash And he's gonna go mad

Looking for Freddy he's killing the bottle Casey is making messes like a toddler Tweet something stupid then don't even bother Brett's gonna block you like TJ as his spotter See them online though FF in the chat Tell Rick where to stay off the track All of the podcasts are living in fear This isn't the download, a store bumper clear

Nah, don't get it twisted, baby This isn't the download, nah This is door bumper clear clear Clear clear clear There you go, I like it Hey everybody, I'm Tj Major Spotted to the 68 XFinity car this week The Six Cup car

Um, full house Greg Griffin Spotter for Colleg Racing Fresh off a Cajum Filet biscuit from Bojangles. I couldn't imagine living in this great country of ours and not having a Bojangles. So if you're in, we got a lot of listeners in Texas, California, hungry, all over the world.

Hungry. You should move here so you wouldn't be hungry anymore and get you a Bojangles biscuit. That's going right to the top of their sales pitches. Their best ad ever. What's up? Freddie Crafts, spotted for Bubba Wallace. Landen Castle had a weekend to forget in wherever the hell we just were,

Road America. What's up, Casey? Hey guys, Casey Boat here. I'm not even going to say what I do anymore and just pass it off to Jason. I'm curious. What do you do? I don't even know. Babysitter. About the same shit you do, Jason.

Make up names. What is that necessary? Any of that right there? Titles. New titles. Producer Jason here. Happy birthday America. I have to say of all the times that people have accused Jason Schultz of being

at different places in the world and being a drone pilot, up being a race car driver. The photo that I saw tweeted yesterday of Tyler Reddick laying on his steps with a cigar sticking out of his mouth, it looked just like it would be Jason George. Yeah. Jason, should you reenact that? I mean, he totally should because I literally,

I looked at it, I'm like, sure that the guy Jason didn't go this far. Because, I mean, you could see the Gucci belt in a picture. You can see. But as I zoomed in on this thing, I'm like, that's actually Tyler. But for the first time, I saw the resemblance. Yeah. The best pick, I think the best picks and videos of the week were, of Bo, Tyler's son, just passed out in victory land.

He was done. Like they're trying to wake him up. Lexi's trying to wake him up. He's done. I can imagine that's what Tyler's going to look like for the next couple days himself. But I thought that was some of the best content to come out of the weekend. You know, they do. I can slightly see the resemblance, but damn sure not when they're standing up.

You cannot stand next to each other and try to do it that way. I'm just the tall version, but it was really great to get my first cup win. It's a long time coming. I worked really hard. I tried to get Tyler to go to Saeed's last night and he couldn't show up he wasn't available

I don't think Is it this picture? You know it to Saeeds last night? I did go to Saeeds last night Oh that's fun He was on the ground Did Tyler post that picture Or you just saw that picture?

Is it this picture? No No, it's a different picture Oh It's a different picture I can't believe Saiz is still going It is still going strong too

There was nobody there When we got there And then we brought 35 people in with us And it was jump there Of course Okay but like

Saiz was like a 2004 thing five in that time where they made a little mistake recently I don't remember it was about three or four years ago they actually put out like an article somewhere in the paper that was like

hey if you want to see your NASCAR stars come to Saeed and then you know what stopped to go nobody went after that for a while but now they're starting to trickle back in well McRannells is there McReynolds is there he's the talent right

he is the talent What did y'all do yesterday celebrate the fourth? I was on a lake and then Saeed's. Brady said he got a unique sunburn. I do have a unique sunburn. I got a, I was wearing my snack bag hat and I got it on backwards and now I've got a line through the middle of my forehead. Well, now we know what our photo is for the week.

Yeah. It's awesome. What about you guys? I chilled, man. I went to the pool. I cooked a big old dinner and hung out with the kiddos. It was fun. Do you smoke some?

A lot of golf cart. Anybody jump off? No, just burgers and hot dogs. I did use my smoker for it though, but yeah. On high, 500 degrees. Holy, I can't cook burgers and hot dogs and 500. You have to. That's the only way to get a chart up.

Nobody jumped off the golf cart, I assume. Nobody jumped off the golf cart. Nobody flipped the golf cart. Put doors on it. Jason, I saw you. You didn't lose the windshield. Oh, everything's intact. Have a flat by any chance.

Did you do any fireworks? They did fireworks on Sunday night. So I heard a bunch going off last night Yeah There was a We did a few over at Brad's And it was fun A little get together

Not not real big But Um Did have one little Accident And me and Brad's brother Were lighting the fireworks off And

Somebody trusted you to light the fireworks off This is There was nobody That's the I am the safety coordinator Oh God This sounds like a Jason Pierre Paul incident.

I learned this from Jason. I just named my role. Yeah, so we're around, we get these fireworks lit off and like the big ones, the finale. And we did like maybe 10 or 12 big ones, but in a line,

I had my line of them and he had his line. You're kind of close to him. Well, we're trying to get off the dock when they're all lit. And we go to around the corner and he wipes out. And I about fall over him,

but I'm like almost crying, laughing because he's the bowl. I mean, he's not. a little guy. So he wipes out and flip flops. My brother, you mean Brian?

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No, he's not a little. No, the bull. And we got them all lit off and hell of a minor scrape up on his knee. Other than that,

everything was good. It was a good time. Yeah. Nice. I try to avoid pyrotechnics. Jason, that's a bad decision. Especially a lot of.

Jason doesn't tan. I'm tan. I'm tan. Jason's red. Jason's tan. Yeah. Take your shirt off. Whatever.

Same. He was up a beat. I made fun of Ben for. and sunburn all weekend and then I got sunburn yesterday. Yeah. It was turning into a tan. My brother and Doug are smoked today. I guarantee it because they put sunscreen out.

Doug made the mistake of relying on Megan to like cover his back. His back is as red as that snow go can over there. And then John, I don't think he, he hose himself down with an entire can of spray, spray tan, whatever, like suntan lotion. And only on the front. He forgot to do the back. So I'm like, John, your back is purple. Is that a bad sign?

I don't know. Oh, man. He's got enough hair. He shouldn't even eat sunburn. No, he's not that hairy, believe or not. Like, not on the back for sure. I mean, it was literally purple. And all night of dinner, Doug's going, Doug's hitting him going,

hey, man, hey. Every time John's about to cry. Sunburn sucks. Oh, John got the worst sunburn ever in the history of sunburns. He fell asleep, face down on the beach and sunburned the bottom of his feet, like really badly, like for an hour. So, I mean, could you imagine sunburning the bottom of your feet? That's got to be miserable.

Yeah, that can't be fun. That debt, I told the, told it before, but back in the day, Ben Gable fell asleep in a lawn chair or a beach chair down by the pool and woke up at like noon and he was probably the most sunburned I've ever thought anybody could get. That's got to be miserable. What do you do? Just lay in, like you just fill your bathtub up with cold water or what do you do? I don't know. Brett, I saw you were spotting among the fans in Rhode America. I was.

So they have a spotter stand for us. and then right above it, there's a concrete pad that backs up to a concession stand. And there's probably seven or eight of us. The Lions Club. Yeah. And that's where I've always stood. I went up there years ago to do a one-day deal for Elliot when Cup was off

and Exfinity was running there and that's where I stood. So these guys take these poles, Jason, and they take these poles and they run them up like six, seven feet in the air. And they're obviously antennas to help their radio broadcasts. Well, my radios are already that high. So I don't have to lug it around and look like a complete moron walking around with a pole and jacking my antenna up and sticking my radio up in the air because I'm not going to be that invested.

If somebody needs me to be that invested, I'm out. I don't think they do anything. I don't either. I don't think they do anything. I guess what you gain in signal strength, you lose in another area because of the cable length to get it to back to you, you know what I mean, to your radio and your headset and stuff. So it took Monez a good hour and a half to get his set up straight. And even during the race, he was fiddling with it.

I'm like, if you think I'm going to be doing that in the middle of a race. Was it Monez's radio? I seen one, I was back there talking to Brett, and we've seen one of the polls go up, and then they shot a radio up it. And then the radio just like slowly timbered over. I was like, ooh, that's probably not ideal. What an idiot.

Like, who does this? And I don't think. Meanwhile, my radios are just the same height as their radios. I still don't think it matters I mean the things that you're in the middle of a How long is that track? Eight miles? Yeah, at least.

You're still in the middle of like a huge road course And it's not And it's got a lot of elevation and trees and a ton of stuff So I don't think there's ever going to be perfect radio communication I was pretty happy that my radio was not working great With my turn one spotter on Sunday Because that guy was spot in a full blown play race I was like dude

Who was it? And I kept telling him nicely to shut up on channel two And I finally said well I guess he can't hear my channel too because I mean this this mother fucker has not stopped talking yet so I'm like Lenny who is this guy and he's like he's the Indy car guy I'm like it sounds like he's rattling off an arithmetic problem that you would hear on the SAT working with you honestly and I was like somebody tell this guy to shut the fuck up please I'm so sorry for you would hear you would hear the crew chief say clear by 10 count the one clear by eight clear by seven six three driving away by half quarter two

seven wide behind you three three three three behind you three three I'm like, dude, shut up. Just shut up. We don't need to know all that. How many spotters do you use at Road America? I had four. Yeah, four total. Same.

So how? And you still can't see anything. No, obviously. I wish they had done it with three and let me stay home. I mean, you need, if you're going to prevent everything like the exfini wreck, you need about 12 spotters. So. How was, uh, I know you had some, some issues on the radio.

There are a few people complaining that they couldn't listen to you. I saw. I mean, I have no idea. I've seen a few people celebrating that they couldn't hear you. Yeah, if that's what you want to call it. I have no idea. I mean, it's Road America. It's a huge track.

I don't know where. Maybe it's where we're positioned compared to where they're picking up the radio. Maybe you need a poll. Maybe they need a poll. I don't think they're record, like I'm sure it's being recorded in a truck somewhere, right? Brad could hear you. I would assume. Sometimes.

Yeah, not very much. Yeah, I think he said he had some issues too. but like if you're being recorded in a truck which is back on pit and honestly I could hear my turn one spotter on Sunday but I could not hear him on Saturday oh I wish I could have flop that around so um but you know you still got if they don't have center to the truck and where you know yeah we use the repeater system which I've never used before we have to and it was it was fine that everybody the crew cheese loved it I could hear Bubba and Bubba could hear me everywhere uh the only issue was like scanning myself which we, I guess we all do it, right? We all listen to ourselves, just to know if we have an issue. When I keyed up to listen to myself, it sounded like there's an airplane landing in my right ear. I don't know what the hell that noise was, but I had to turn that down to get rid of that. But other than that, it was fine.

When I turned it off, Bubba, I was talking to Bubba and he's like, why are you yelling today? And I was like, because I can't hear myself. So I don't know how loud I'm talking. The place was packed. The aerial shots on TV looked amazing. The concession line when I walked up. Oh my gosh. I mean, I went up at like 10 a.m.

And just to kind of scout my area and make sure that fans had plenty of coolers around me and hot dogs and all the brots and cheese curds. Like, it's just crazy the culture of that particular atmosphere and how much different it is and anywhere we go. It's like a Formula One race. All we need to do is be able to get that atmosphere at a good race. I thought it was a good race. I know you're drunk. I didn't think it was terrible. But it definitely like the atmosphere there, man.

The amount of racing you get in a weekend at a place like that, I mean, it felt like it was nonstop. There was something on track. It was nonstop, man. It was like, all right, well, this race has got to be over by, you know, 10, 15 because we got this other one lining up to go. So what else was different is you obviously, no matter where you go there, you can't see a lot, right? Oh, yeah. But they completely give you free roam to go wherever you want to go. Yeah.

I jump on a golf cart Sunday morning and went down through those kettle bottoms. Like, holy loud during that race, though they race. Sunday morning. It's super narrow. Then they've got the can of the corner down there. Like, you've got the ability to really move around. And Kevin Major, he told me last year that was his favorite part about going there with his son was they got to go watch the race from 12 or 13 different areas.

Like, you could get in a ton of steps, see it from a lot of different views. And everywhere it was different. I don't really need to get in that. I guess it was like $35 to rent a golf cart for a day too. Yeah, 135. If there was any later. And they sold out of them. Oh, I would pay that.

And hands down, we're not in the right spot. We should be in turn six, seven, and eight. because I spotted there last year, now having spotted where we were this year, six, seven, and eight's where we need to be. You can see more of the racetrack. It's more technical. It's more demanding. The only thing we really do is watch turn five and tell them if they're wrecking or not.

Typically if they wreck it's, hey, they wrecked and they're off the track. Track's clear. Watch your right and they're fading back on. We don't do a whole hell of a lot. I actually kind of like turn five because you kind of get a mix of everything there. I know there is, and it's a pretty big passing zone, but they've already decided what's going to happen. when they It's fun to watch them come in there

Yeah and they've already decided who They're if they're gonna try to outbreak a guy or not Before they get into our view But it's nice to be able to When Like Joey Joey came into our view and I was like Uh look out for the 22

He's coming It's already decided what's gonna happen at that point But I like being able to I like the middle section there Because you kind of got the end You got up the front stretch If you're doing pit road stuff But I mean

Even if you were to go to 6-7 It's gonna be You can just see more, I'm telling you. You can see more. I went up there and looked. You can definitely see a couple. Those corners are kind of closer together and stuff. Do they have any like paid grandstands?

Like, they sell tickets? Maybe on the front stretch, maybe. I've never even seen. But everywhere else, I know the fans are roaming. And they love it. And it's awesome. I know we talked about it a little bit last week, but the fact that they were talking about bringing a Chicago race,

street race, and Rhode America doesn't have a contract for this next year. after coming back from America, do you think that this could potentially be one that they get rid of? There's no reason. It's so hard to say they should, listen, I thought the race was boring. I thought it was a snooze fest.

I thought Saturday's race was boring. I thought all the races were boring. The finish of Saturday's race was not boring. That wreck was not boring. I wasn't there for the wreck. Oh, that was... The hell you weren't you? Because you ran me over.

Get out of the way. But, you know, like Sunday's race, I thought, was just a snooze fest. And that's what they're going to base it off of. They're not going to base it off of the Xfinity race. I would just hate to lose that atmosphere because there's so many people there. Like, and they all love racing.

Like Brett said, they're there early in the morning. When we rolled into the track, there was a train, the TA2 race going on. There was races all day long on Saturday with the little Mises. Do you think? Just boring.

Just too stretched out. So what do you want? What do you need to make it not boring? I don't know. Like it was just it's it's the track is too big. We'll talk about it here later, but the cautions, but it's just, it's, I don't know. It's a boring race. I don't know what to tell you. I mean, there aren't. I don't think last year was as boring as this year, but lack of cautions and the race getting stretched out. It was just a boring race. But then when you have too many cautions, people were like, oh, this takes way too low to right cautions. That's the point. Like you can't, you can't have cautions because the cautions take 20 minutes of the time. And then the racing, if you don't have a caution, the racing gets stretched down. It's a boring place because it's five miles long. You're becoming really hard to please. You're becoming really hard to please. these, Freddie. I know. I thought it was a good race. I mean, it's a road course race. I thought I watched Tyler Reddick run down Chase Elliott. I watched Chase Elliott make the mistake. I was like, man, I think he's going to get to him. And Tyler just kept going deeper and deeper in the five. Then he'd

miss it and he missed the apex. He'd lose five or six car links. Next thing, no, he's running them back down again. Like, I thought it was awesome. I didn't think it was a terrible race. I thought it was boring. It wasn't, it was, my minute, it wasn't a good race and it wasn't a bad race. It was just, you know, maybe you should spot your car in turn one. It's not real boring up air. So we had that one guy, what the hell is his name, that runs the Rick Ware car this week, Joey Hand. He was behind us.

And I told when Bubba left my section, I was like, he heads up. This guy's super aggressive on entry because we've seen him in the past. He just blocks the hell out. He races like, he's aggressive. And so they dipped down the front stretch and we were right behind you and he was right behind us. So then I hear Brett wins and turn one.

He's like, oh, get it going if you can. I'm like, damn, that 15 must have got us. And then I'd see the replay. And Bubba just did exactly what Joey did to us. Just blew the corner completely. Thank God he didn't hit you. I was watching on SMT. And I saw your car go down through the grass and not, and just like, at a lot of speed,

I was like, oh, no, we're going to hit. And I don't know how we didn't. I mean, it was. Must have been Brian. Brian was the expert spotting. Yeah. I mean, I had a kid, Brian Tedeschi in turn one. He just got Brad right through it, man.

My guy was spotting it. I can promise you. Maybe Brad heard your guy. 100%. He knew Bobo's coming from the start, finish line. If he heard my guy, he would turn around and went back up straight away wrong way. That guy's safe to say. That guy's probably not doing any more road courses for you.

Yeah. Do they, like, have you interview them? Because I feel like they need to. Well, you're so picky. When you have spotters, they typically help kind of recruit who they get. But at Colleg Racing, Chris Rice, overseas all that. So I don't have to give a shit to who they get. Chris is going to take care of that.

All I have to do is either love them or motherfuck. Luckily for me, I have. I had Neil in turn one, which is Chris's bus driver, and he still hasn't turned his radio on. I actually saw Neil on Saturday night, and I said, Neil, how'd you do? And he said, well, I did turn my radio on this year. But I don't think he spoke. There was one time we were ninth. We're mid-pack in turn one.

He's doing turn one. It's a restart. We're running ninth. I know there's stuff going on around us. I hear the crew chief go green, green, green, and then I was the next one to talk on the radio. Neil was really good about like, are there? There's a tire lane over here. There's a tire carcass over there.

There's a tire carcass over here on the left, but I never heard him really spotting anything. Yeah, I mean, my spotters were all. We added Brian since Coda, and everybody was pretty much on the same page. I can't say that all my guys had a really good job. I mean, it's hard to find 160 spotters. I mean, let's be honest, right?

I mean, you can. You can put people up there. You should just pick one of the fans. I mean, Casey, I think you should come and help us. at the next one. Sure. I would love to have you at Waukes-Glan.

We should have a DBC car and then we'll all spot it. I'm going to get a corner. I'm going to get the only female spotter in the race that day in the Cup series. Good media story.

I'm going to get, yep, Casey Boat will spot for Justin Haley. I might be like Neil, but try our rest here. We'd prefer it. We'd prefer it.

I don't really not talk and do what the other guy did. Oh, if I'm spotting with you, then don't you worry. I'll keep talking. What would Casey say in the radio, you know? Hey guys

What's up? Look out Oh, well, a little late I'll probably say left when it's supposed to be right I'll get door above or clear right There you go Just use the inside, inside outside That's all you got to do

Done. There was a spotter that was spotting for two cars At the same time this week And What location was he? He was in turn seven And he could see, I think he was expecting one of them to not make the race.

So he just agreed to do both. And then he just did them both. And he said, everything went really, really well, right into the green, white checker when they came next, came by him side by side. So how did he do it? He like switched. No, you just switch buttons.

They only require one spotter. Outside. Outside. Inside. As long as somebody's on the main spotter stand, NASCAR doesn't care where the others are. Interesting. So I got how many you have, really.

No, they don't care. Yeah, no, they don't care. Inside outside. Inside out. All right. Before we head into spot-on, spot-off. He wrecked you. Nice job, man.

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I'm spot on. Are you joking me? He's lost his mind. Oh, and by the way, no one ever seems to agree. And then spot off means you disagree. Spot off. Here we fucking go. This is the dumbest thing I've ever heard.

But if you're T.J. Um, uh, uh, there's only one correct answer. I don't know. It's time for spot on, spot off. First topic, Chase Ellie is unable to hold off Tyler Reddick after final pit stops as Reddick gets by to win his first career cup race. Freddie, spot on, spot off. Spot on. Awesome for Tyler. You kind of seen Chase, the big thing I saw was one time Chase just blew, I think it was

turn five. It was five. Kind of overdrove it and then that gave Tyler the opening to get in front of him. And then Tyler, kind of like we've seen Suarez do at where the hell he won, Sonoma, just ran pretty much a flawless second half of the race there. Got aided by, you know, no caution. So they just kind of ran their race out and worked out well for him. But just took advantage of one mistake and then capitalized on it and drove away, really. At the end, there really wasn't much of a race for the lead.

I think this is a big time spot on and also a big shock. I mean, when you look at starting the season, we talk about wildcar races. And there was a long time where road courses, when we would talk about a wildcard race, we would say a guy like McDowell is going to have a chance to win or a guy like A.J. Amundinger is going to have a chance to win. Certainly not a guy like Daniel Sauris, certainly not a guy like Ross Jastain, certainly not a guy like Tyler Redick. That's three guys this year that got their first win. on road courses. First Cups Series win on road course. We didn't ever saw that before this car,

in my opinion. I don't think you're going to go out there and outrun a Chase Elliott, a Kyle Larson, some of these guys that are super good without this particular car. But spot on for sure for Tyler's first win, first career cup series win, one of many. And obviously, good timing for him, having been announced that RCR had picked up his option to bring him back for next year, taking him off potentially what would be the free agency market for 2023. But having watched Tyler since he came into NASCAR and to watch his growth on and off the track because he's matured a hell of a lot off the track too. I don't think he gets enough credit for that personally for what he's been able to establish there. I mean, TJ, he's one of the best,

he only has one cup series win, but in my mind he's one of the best drivers out there right now. Yeah, Tyler has grown tremendously. Well, not really. Yeah, not heightwise. Not physically. He's definitely grown a lot, you know, since his early days there. I mean, shoot, I think it was, did he win his first truck race? I don't remember. Or did he run a partial schedule than the full schedule? I can't remember because I spotted for him. I saw he spotted for him.

I can't remember if we did a partial schedule the year before. I think we did. But we won the first rate. I mean, one Daytona the first time we ran it. And the kid listened. He was a sponge from the beginning. And I think them years of him doing that learning as he goes up the ladder. He's very quiet and he learns.

He's really hard on himself a lot, probably too hard. But to me, this is more of a big win for him, first win. I know the Bristol Dirt Race would have been cool, but this is a bigger win than that, in my opinion. You passed a guy that's won every road course for a year or two straight. He seemed like Chase won every week, every road course we went to. So you passed to that guy to win your first race. and I don't think it gets any better than that as far as being your first win.

You earned it. You know, you passed. You always look back and, you know, you look at something like, when a guy wins Dayton or Talladegh, you go back and look. And then you look at the top 10 and it's such a scattered group. And there might only be 14 cars running. But here, I mean, you pass the best at the road, one of the best of the road course today in this day and age.

You passed him to win your first race. So I don't know how it gets much sweeter than that for Tyler. It's very, very deserving for him and his family. His dad's put a lot into it, and his family has got a great family, and I was super happy to see them get to win. And that's your hardest one to get is your first one. Now he's got it. I think he can run off a lot.

And I mean, I don't know where the other RCR cars finished on this particular day, but he's been head and shoulders the best RCR car. And it's not just RCR car. Obviously, they've got alliances with other teams as well. And, I mean, he's usually the only guy in the top 10 out of the RCR stable cars. Yeah, I mean, consistently. You've seen, we've seen this last year, too, I think. I mean, he was on the pole of Coda last year, even with the old car.

So his road racing had been, I know he put a lot of work in. He's been working a lot with Josh Wise and Scott Speed. I run into him a couple times at, you know, Mill, not Mill Bridge, GoPro over here working with them guys. And just talk, even talking to him about like what he's learning over there. You can hear the enthusiasm in his voice of, you know, drills, they're making them, you know, procedures they're making them do, how they're making them run the car to learn stuff. But, I mean, you're talking about next year it's going to be a pretty good offseason,

I think, for Tyler Redick. I mean, is there, is there anybody in the sport that, wouldn't want Tyler Redick? I mean, Gibbs is probably out of chairs over there, but is there anybody that wouldn't kick the tires on Tyler Redick to trying to get him in their car? Well, this is what was confusing for me, you know, having been on the management side,

is RCR comes out and announces, we've picked up his option. Well, why did you only pick up his option? Why didn't you announce, we've signed Tyler Reddick to a new contract through 2026, which tells me that the two sides, surely to God RCR wanted to do that.

Oh yeah, 100%. Right? I mean, I would hope so. Nobody's told me that. But if I'm RCR, there's no way I want this guy to ever come up as a free agent, right? So the fact that he's not under contract

beyond 2023 tells me that Tyler Redick is about to be one of the top 10 highest paid guys going into the 2020, 23, 24 season once he gets established as to where he wants to go. But look, to your point, he was in the Hendrick family of drivers. and he had an opportunity in my mind to go get in one of those Hendrick cars, and it didn't work out for him here. And he left here.

He went to RCR. He won an Xfinity Series championship at RCR. Having just one won the year before at JRM. Now that's kind of odd, right? You win a championship at JRM and they let you leave? That's kind of odd. All right. But you go to RCR, you win another one.

Now they've got you. Now they put you in a cup car. Only let Daniel Hemrick run one year. Everybody thought that was going to be a long-term play. He ran one year. They moved him out of the way to put Redick in. Obviously, they're sitting on all of the control of that contract. Now when it comes up, I mean, you look at whatever's going on at Stuart Haas Racing, right?

I think Chase Briscoe, as safe as he can be. Going into this year, I didn't think he was. Now I think he is. Harvick, he ain't going to be there forever. I mean, this guy's 45 years old, it seems like. Maybe he's older than that. I don't know. But he ain't going to be there forever.

Eric Amarola, who knows what he's going to do. I mean, we alluded to a few months ago. We heard he may not retire. And now he kind of owned that a little bit. I've seen a little back pedal this week. He kind of owned that, right? And the big move there is Smithfield loves Eric Camerole. And if they can't get a major upgrade in driver,

why would they agree to bring in a guy that they don't know can win? They know Tyler Reddick can win. So you just wait a year. And you talk Eric into sticking around another year, right? So to your point, I mean, if I'm Gibbs, hell yeah, I'd look at him. Christopher Bell doesn't start winning a lot of races. I mean, the rumor is Bell's been picked up for next year. Obviously, Kyle's got to figure out what Kyle's going to do.

We know Ty Gibbs is coming along. If I own a race team and I own a cup team, he is on the top of my list. And there's a lot more guys coming up next year. They're going to be big names. If you were Tyler and you had some options, where would you go? Well, I mean, you can't establish where that is right now because a lot of things can change. I mean, look, Casey, if you had told me that, you know, Daniel Suarez was making a brilliant move to go to trackhouse a year ago, I would have told you he's taking a big risk and look how fast they are.

So from an evolution standpoint, you know, Stuart Hoss Racing right now doesn't have the speed. speed they've had. And is that a place you jump up and down and go, I can't wait to go over there? Well, I don't know. I mean, if he's winning, if he's outrunning them now at RCR, you know, these guys have to establish two things. Do they want to win races or do they want to get paid? And sometimes it's both, right? But at various points in their career, the answer is different. You know, I've been a part of driver's career where all that mattered at the end was getting that big payday. And I've been a part of guys in the beginning where it's, I don't care about the money. I just want to race. So you can't say where he should or shouldn't go at this point. But it's

obvious that he's going to open up his options at the end of next year. And typically the way those contracts are written, you kind of have to negotiate in good faith to a point, but I don't know what his contract looks like. You have no idea. But it's very hard to get both of those at once, though. That doesn't align very often. Joe Gibbs Racing does a really good job of aligning those. Yeah.

Well, I think, and something's going to have to change there. I mean, something's going to change eventually there, right? I mean, I don't, who knows? Well, I mean, you look at now, you, like, you've got Bell and rumor is he may be coming back, but then is, you know, that's not guaranteed for 24. True X is already rumored to be retiring this year. Is he gone in 20? So that might open up two seats right there where you can get Tyler over. I thought he said he's coming back now.

He's coming back, but I'm saying he's not, he's not guaranteed for the following year. I mean, so that could be two seats right there. Kyle, we don't know what Kyle's doing. So, I mean, there's places everywhere. The 21 car would probably be a really good fit for Tyler Redick. You know, I don't, like if you're, if you're a Rick. Kendrick, do you want Tyler Redick in the 48 or do you want Alex Bowman right now? I feel like Alex is, you know, he's had a decent season, but I feel like he's noticeably below

where the other three cars have been running. I don't know. It's just, like you said, everybody, it's going to be Larson-esque. You know, it's where everybody's going to want them and it's going to be who's going to get him. Should be interesting. Moving on, the 62-lap cup race had no natural cautions and was one minute shorter than the 45-lap

Xfinity Series race at Road America. CJ. Yeah, so I'm spot off for, I still think the cars, it places, it just seems like they have too much grit, doesn't it? Like Martinsville, that race just gripped up.

It looked like slot cars going around there again. I don't know if that's, to me, that's just my opinion. These things look stuck when they get there to the corners a lot. But these guys are also super good at what they do. the cup guys, they're all, they're all almost ringers now, like the top 20 or ringers, basically.

And it used, that's not how it used to be, used to be able to plug the Boris Seds in and them guys, and those guys run top five because they were really good at road course racing. Well, these guys are all really good at road course racing now, so it makes it hard. So I, the Xfinny race should have more yellows naturally because those guys are supposed to be the up-and-coming guys learning how to race these things. And those cars are a handful to drive. We say week in and week out, you know, that race, them guys are up on the wheel at mile and a half. And places like that, they are up on the wheel, you know, digging. So it's not a surprise to have, you can't really compare the guys that are trying to get to the Cup series.

So the guys are in the Cup series because the ones that are trying to get there are obviously going to have more crashes and more natural yellows. Yeah, I am 100% spot on for no cautions for no reason. And to be honest with you, we saw, and I put this tweet out, we saw over 30,000 turns made by the field and no cautions. That is unbelievable. Does that speak to how great the drivers are? Or does it speak to what TJ just said? These cars have too much grip and they're stuck to the racetrack. But for me, I don't have an issue watching a race play out naturally.

But unfortunately for the fans, the drivers, the teams, the spotters, the engineers, we go into that race with a pretty. big plan on how we're going to attack that day. And it's a lot based on stages because we kind of anticipate what the tire fall off is going to be based on the sim that we run. We anticipate what we think we need to do for tire fall off on when we need to pit in that last stage. So I say at road courses, just take the freaking stage break away. Throw the green white checkered, award the points, keep the race going, because then you may put a guy in a position where he's got to make an audible make a play. I mean, we saw Austin Dillon with three or four laps to go in the race cut a tire. And to me, he made the biggest move of the race to help Tyler Reddick win the race

because he didn't opt to stay on the racetrack. When he got to turn five, he went through turn five, he went into the infield. He drove the freaking same road that I drove when I come through the tunnel that morning to the cup garage so that he didn't risk putting debris on that racetrack and bringing a caution out. So when you have a longer race, well, not a longer race, you have the race run without these guaranteed stops. I think it helps the overall experience of the road course race. And I don't just mean at Road America. I mean at all these road course races. I also mean it at plate races. I don't like stopping at plate races. I don't like stopping at road course races. Yeah. I think that we, I mean, we talked about this Sunday, but, you know,

just pay the points. Hey, we got lap 15 and lap 30 pay points because that's one of the big reasons why the Xfinity race was as long as it was, is because one caution was at the absolute worst possible time. Three to go at the end of the three to go to the stage. That was like a 30 minute caution because we had to roll around there for three laps to run the stage out, then had to make another lap to open pit road. So you got five something minutes a lap. Yeah, it's five minutes a lap. That's 20 minutes of just rolling around because we're waiting for a stage stand. You know, there's no reason why listen here. We're paying out points at lap 15. It's lap 13. We're opening pit road. Do you want to stay out and get your points? Or do you?

you want to come down pit road and get yourself set up for the rest of the race? Like it's just, you know, that's the biggest issue that I have with Road America. I said it last week. I said again this week. And it's, it's the reason why is because of the caution flag. That's why the Xfinity race was naturally that the Xfinity race was 17 laps shorter than the cup race. That's 40 minutes of time.

You know, that's two minutes a lap, two and a half minutes a lap, whatever it was. You know, that's 40 minutes that the cup race just on time alone should be longer than the Xfinity race just on lap time. and now you end up with a shorter race because the infinity, you know,

they drag that three or four cautions is 15, 20 minutes each. One caution, one big rack. Yeah, I mean, so, you know, we need to figure out if we're going to stay racing there. And I don't have anything against Rhode America. I love the area. We're adding road courses. We're not taking them away. Yeah, like we've got to figure out a way to keep the show moving.

And then if we do get a yellow, like I talked to Kip. I was talking to Kip in the garage and it was like, there's no reason why you can't, if they're, get everybody caught up. And if we know we're coming around to one to go and everybody's caught up, haul ass. Like go, take off. Like,

there's no reason why you can't run a hundred mile an hour from turn four to turn five. And then, you know, you get that long back straightaway. You can, you know, we see the damn F1 car. They did pick up the speed a little bit.

A little bit. But, I mean, not to the, I mean, if you run 80 instead of 50, you know, you're going to cut that lap time in,

and in half almost, you know. So, you know, it's just, there's little things you can do. I don't, I don't think it compromises anything. asking a lot of kit, man.

Is Kippen's got it out here? I think Kipps got it in him. Let the guy have some funny. He has to roll around there all the time when the parade lapses and on the Ovales. I need you to hit a hundred and something on the straits and try to head in these corner because that pace car in Formula One is hauling ass. I mean, it is all. That guy is getting all he can get out of it.

But like, you know, I don't think you're doing that. I don't think it compromises anything to just pay stage points. You know, lap 15 and 30. It requires a bunch of people sitting around in a room and saying, hey, if we do this differently, it's going to help the sport. We can't treat Rhode America the same way we treat Richmond. No. You shouldn't.

But you're throwing away a restart, different pit strategies, and all that when you do. That's what I'm... Yeah, but I'd rather see that play out because you'll have, especially at a place like Road America where the tires wear, you're going to see a lot of different strategies because some guys are going to short pit as soon as the window opens because they're hoping to catch a caution. But we're not going to see it. We're not going to ever see it because of one reason.

Stages. TV. TV gets a guaranteed break to commercial and we're not going to see it. But if they're not going to do it because of TV, I'll give me that pass. Do what Freda just said. If we know the freaking,

we wrecked with two to go in a stage, tough open pit road, one to go, run it like a normal deal. Don't just ride the stage out and waste all that time. That's what I didn't get. We probably could have had a one lap shoot out if we hustled it right there.

Yeah, but they wouldn't do it because they won't restart without opening. pit road and pit road was closed because they were coming to two to go. It's just a lot of procedural stuff that just gets in the way of the show. Correct. Correct. Pits were closed because it was two to go. Now they got to open pit road when it's a mandatory close.

Yeah. You got to fix that. That can be fixed at road courses and in my opinion play races. Easily. NASCAR doesn't penalize Noah Gregson for his role in triggering a big wreck after making contact the Sage Carium in the Xfinity series race. Brett, this one's for you. I actually meant to text Noah and ask him something before I commented on this, but I totally forgot.

Just ask him on here. And that is totally on me. We can call him right now. Yeah, let's ask him. FaceTime. He might not answer knowing we're recording. I am 100% spot off for what happened after he made contact with the 45 car. He wrecked that car.

He wrecked himself and he wrecked, I don't know what looked like about 12 to 15 others. obviously I piled into it. All of us. Ruin my name. I'm watching the television and it's a long ways away from me partly because I couldn't see the other television closer to me

because of Monez's his big ass pole. And I'm watching this. I'm like, man, they're wrecking right there. I don't hear anybody talking. I don't know where I'm at in the middle of this thing. I just know I'm probably behind it.

So I key up and I'm like, hey, they're wrecking. Good luck. If you're through, let us know. And he's like, Oh, I just hit the 10. I'm like, yeah, we saw him flipping over. You were in my fuel cell.

That's where you were at. But I'm watching this television, and it looked like an F5 tornado had formed and just was sucking up cars and slinging them around. So I'm clearly spot off for the amount of race cars that were torn up. I am spot on for how Noah handled himself after the race. A, he faced reporters. Kyle Bush, wouldn't have done that. B, he wasn't an arrogant ass

He kind of basically said Hey, this is my stance The guy had taken advantage of me two to three times I'd had all I was going to take And so that part of it, Casey, I was spot on But the overall thing of this What your question is, the penalized thing I think this warranted

At least a three to five lap penalty To be held on pit road because it was just stupid. You know what I mean? Like where it was at on the racetrack and knowing how narrow that place is and knowing how fast they're going right there and once you get those two cars out of control

and wrecking in front of that many other cars, there was no way to avoid it being a major, major wreck. That's a seven to 15 minute penalty. My question, if that's not a penalty, what is? Like what's to stop anybody from doing anything now because this guy right hooked this guy down the straight way where nobody can see for one obviously you're not taking that into account of the car but

you know if that's not a penalty what the hell is a penalty? You know we've seen some in the past but I felt like we're less than this you know but same as you like here's my issue and no was obviously one of my leading candidates for one idiot this week and it's not really because of what he did

it's or it is because of what he did but Sage Karam has run a couple races with us and if you race around Sage Karam you'd probably want to do this too at times because he kind of races is like an idiot. You know, he runs you all over the place. I want to go in the rental car.

Yeah. So I don't really fault Noah for this. What I fault Noah for is do a better job. Yeah. Like if you're going to wreck the guy, just wreck the guy. Don't wreck yourself in the process. Like you right turn to the guy in the quarter panel and then wreck yourself at the same time. And that's the only reason we had all the cars pile in.

If he just kind of right hooks the guy in the left rear quarter panel and turns him across the track, he's gone. We're all tracks clear. We're all good to go. But he does like a half-ass job of it, wrecks himself, wrecks all of us. wrecks all of us in the process. So that was my only fault with Noah in this deal. My driver's manhood is still stuck in his lap.

I heard your guy who was wrecked. Yeah. I think is... He's still talking at a higher pitch. His stuff still stuck in his lap, his crotch belt. So that was a blue ball wreck? Ugh. We could ask him, but I, yeah, I mean, I...

Yeah, look at the wreck. I'm sure it was. He's spot on, spot off. I'm spot off for creating this big of a rack. There, Noah, and I think Noah is better. than this. I think he knows how to do it better than this. I don't fault him for wanting to teach a guy, you know, because look, I watch that guy, you can't run, you can't keep using people up like he was. And I, he acted all innocent in his interview, Sage did, in my opinion, you know, racing's way up through it,

but you can't run numerous cars. It wasn't just the nine. It wasn't, there was numerous cars, including, I watched it in turn five. He just gets inside something. He throws up, runs him to the grass until they have to, that's not racing. Tommy Joe Martins disagrees with you. That's not racing. If you consistently, okay, you miss a corner and you run a guy a little bit, make a mistake, it happens. AJ, AJ did it to Brad, but he got, I saw him, he got made a mistake. And, but it wasn't his technique to pass like that.

That's this guy's technique to pass is to use people up until they have to lift and force them into bad places. Well, no, I had enough of it. I don't blame him. I don't either. I don't blame him for wanting to retain. It's not rallied against the guy, but it was just, like Freddie said, it was a very bad job of retaliating. Let me ask you this.

If you're going to penalize him, given that it is the Xfinity series, given that it's Noah Glaxen, what are you going to actually penalize him with that's going to hurt? Because if you sit in three to five laps like we would have seen in the 90s or early 2000s, what's it matter? Yeah. It doesn't affect his playoff. The only thing that I think a penalty does in that situation is you kind of just set a bar where, okay, we've drawn a line. this is you can't do this you know what I mean and and in the future it might stop somebody that will hurt you know a guy that's battling for a playoff spoter it's the integrity of the game yeah like it's just you can't let that go and and as far as Noah like his interview you know it was all right

you know obviously he faced he kind of owned up to it but still like you like there's little comments in that interview like I didn't under I don't I don't know what our pitch strategy was today like there's little digs there there's little comments in there like where you like I own it but I don't really own it because he was pissing me off um I think no one needs to get back to worrying about driving instead of his image deal. Like, where was it last week or two weeks ago, walking down pit road with his fire suit zipped open, not wearing the mandatory underwear that he has to have on pit road, I think sent his management team into a little bit of a tizzy.

Like, why is he walking around pit road with his suit down? He's trying to play into this Tim Richmond image. And I think he needs to maybe just get back to driving the car because in the beginning of the year, he was, he was borderline untouchable. Like, what was it? Like the first four or five races, he was top three. And he's kind of tailed off from that a little bit. So maybe just kind of get refocused on doing what you do best and then let the image stuff handle itself.

So my thing is that's on, that was on a straightaway right there. And obviously it misjudged a little bit. But the next breaking zone, it would have been a real easy. If you're already, just punning. Yeah, if you're already right there at his quarter panel, just let him clear you by a few feet. Get in behind him when he goes, when he breaks, you don't break. And you go in there and he sees the access road down there and loses all his spots. I mean, I don't necessarily think he.

And I don't think Noah meant to cause that big wreck, but it did. I don't think he meant to get that many cars involved. I don't think any of these guys would do that in that aspect. But it did. We're coming up on Indianapolis Roadcourse pretty quick, and that puts a lot of Xfinity Series teams in a little bit of a hole. It takes a lot of effort man hours to fix that many cars. Manhood.

Ellen Sawyer said this morning that all options are on the table as far as penalties for Noah Steele. after at Road America, including fines, point, suspension, or nothing. Well, I mean, how would you feel for you? If they come out today and say, I mean, they're going to suspend them. But if they come out today and give them a 10 point penalty or something, I'm good with that. You know, you got to do something. Because like I said, if not, where's the line?

You know, this guy, this was a blatant right turn into a guy that wrecked half the field. So if that's okay, everything's okay. Yeah, it's not mono-e-mono. It's mono-a-mono plus 20 more people that were just trying to finish the free of race. I wish. You can't suspend him, Jason. And if they suspend him, that'll be the dumbest thing they've done since they suspend him at Kansas. Can't suspend him.

So points do you think would be the... I mean, you're going to get their attention when you start taking points away. That's how you get their attention. That's my point. Like sitting in for three laps, five laps, who cares? Not letting him finish the race, who cares? And you start taking away points and playoff points. Playoff points is what would hurt.

You really want to get their attention? Take away a playoff point. Yeah, one. Just one is enough, you know, but... The bad part about it is he thought he was going to fix a problem, but he just created a bigger problem for it. So if now it took away from the other problem that he was trying to And you talk about, you know, we talk about playoffs, which he's already locked into playoffs.

He's going to be fine. But you talk about indie road course coming up. You talk about Watkins Glenn. I guarantee Sage is probably in that indie race. I don't know about Walkins Glenn, but... I think Sage has more enemies. How many of those you just mentioned, do you think Jesse Owoogie is going to have Friday commitments with the Navy? Well, you just got to see the entry list and see how many cars are on it first.

Okay. So you think if there's... More than 38? Yeah, he'll be busy. Yeah. Listen, let's just dive into that for a second. I'm going to dive out. Does anybody in the sport,

anybody in the sport of auto racing right now need practice more than Jesse Owoji? I mean, yeah. Who? Who needs practice more than him, man? Nobody in the sport needs to be practiced more than Jesse Owoogie right now. And not only is he doing this to skip qualifying so his car can get in the race, but he's also missing practice.

So his first lap on the racetrack is the race. And it shows because he, He was running 38th place. He was five seconds slower than the guy running 37th place, 12 seconds off of the leader. Wow. What is minimum speed? I mean, what's minimum speed if this guy can run around there 12 seconds off the leader's pace? Could you be within 12 seconds of the leader?

I don't know, but I gave it a shot. The press says these cars were easy to drive. I could probably do it. I didn't say they were easy. You say they're easy to drive. I'm not sending an infinity series car is easy. man. Well, I mean, it's a race car in general.

I said it's easier to drive five feet in a pit stop competition. I respect your opinion, but you're wrong. But listen, here's a difference. I'm not signing up to go out there in race. I will say this. I would put money on this. I'll bet $5,000 that Freddie would be within 12 seconds to Jesse Oogie. That I can probably confirm.

Because he's 12 seconds off the leader. And Freddie doesn't claim to be a professional race car driver on his Wikipedia page. I think, I mean, do you think you could be within a second in most of the corners? Within a second of the leader? Yeah, like a quick time. I mean, that's almost a second, a corner almost. I mean, I would think so, but I don't know. It's been a long time since I drove anything.

But here's where the people I feel bad for. I feel bad for Ryan Vargas. I feel bad for JJ Yaley and his team. I feel bad for Dexter Bean and his team. Like, these guys are there all weekend. I feel bad for Emmett Smith, too. But these guys are there. Vargas is there driving.

just trying to, you know, make the living doing this. And he misses the race because this guy's off doing a naval commitment somewhere to let Kyle Weatherman drive his car and qualifying. NASCAR has rules in place for this not to happen. But we circumvent the rules because this guy's claiming he's at some kind of obligation before that. So if you let it, I think this is the third time. At least third, maybe fourth.

How many times you let him do it if you're in NASCAR? Apparently, they're not going to stop it. I mean, why would they let them do it a third time or a second time? Like, listen, I get it. And listen to me. I mean, I wish I had a friend that was in the Navy Reserve. Me too. I was going to call somebody.

The Navy Reserve is obviously you're doing the function of a naval officer, but you're not full time, right? So you can get off on Saturday every Saturday for 30 plus weeks, but you can't ever get off on Friday? Well, he's off on some Fridays when there's not enough cars to go home. Well, I just wish somebody would tell me, how do you get off every Saturday if you're in the Naval Reserve? That's why I have to work on Friday.

And like you can't plan this. stuff ahead. I feel like there's organization, like the big thing of the military or any military base is like organizational stuff. You don't know this in advance. Like, you know, make us a list of all the qualifying you're going to miss right now. All right, moving on. Kyle Larson gets out dueled by Ty Gibbs for the Xfinity series race victory. Spot on, spot off, Freddie. Spot on. I tweeted out. I mean, this guy just went out and beat arguably what we've called on here, driver in the world right now. The best race car driver in the world.

And that's obviously open to interpretation. But listen, and he beat him. He didn't rough him up. I was worried. I thought there was going to be. I just got back to the hotel in time to see the white, the green white checker. And I was thinking that, oh, if he gets close, he's going to put the bumper to him. And he never really had to.

Kyle had a decent lap, the white flag lap coming to the white, but he missed the last corner. And then that gave Ty the big run down the front stretch. Ty put the pressure on. Kyle Blue turned three. or four whatever it was and Ty drove by and then drove away. So, I mean, credit to him. I don't know how that's got to be one of the most satisfying wins you could have

when you go out there and beat a guy like Kyle Larson in that kind of scenario. You know, this kid's what, 19, 20 years old? I mean, I don't know how you have a better win right there. Right. I am spot off for Kyle Larson being, to Freddie's point, one of the best, if not the best race car driver in the world making that many mistakes. If you go back and watch Ty Gibbs, it looked like Ty was making a little more grip than the Kyle was at that point in time. But Ty actually got over to his right.

And Kyle came over and Kyle was not clear. And the Ty Gibbs that I've seen race for the past two years would wreck him. He's like, screw you, I'm in here. You're coming over into my space. I'm punting you. And he would have turned him to the right. He would have went off the course. Ty Gibbs would have went on the winter race.

But Ty didn't do that. Ty lifted. And he let him in. Guess what Kyle did the very next corner? He missed it. He completely freaking missed it. And Ty Gibbs drove by him. So I think you're looking at Ty Gibbs experiencing a little bit of a maturity situation here the last two weeks.

He didn't get out of the car two weeks ago and blow the interview like he would have normally done over Sam Mayer and those guys wrecking each other. Here he keeps his composure. And then he lets one of the best race car drivers in the world make a mistake and he takes advantage of it. So I'm spot off for Larson's execution on that last lap. I don't think that guy needs to be. I mean, we praise him as the best in the world. Drive like it. But for Ty Gibbs, holy spot on for what he did right there.

Maybe Kyle was expecting just to be wrecked and not make that last corner, so he was kind of caught off guard. Chance. Chance that's true. I'm spot on for Ty. Very veteran last couple last lap and a half there. But it could have been overshadowed because last week, when him and Sam got together, if you look, did you see them get together?

Ty tried to wreck him. He tried to hook him into the wall on the front stretch. And I'm glad it didn't happen. But it just, it's not necessary. But hopefully, it seems like he's growing, you know, into his role more and more. And he's going to realize that you can't just hook everybody. You know, look, he could have hooked him, but he didn't. And guess what?

He still, what was the end result? You still won the race. So you don't just have to hook people when you get a bumper there, even if you can't because if he gets a bumper there, Larson might clear him off the last corner and if he carries that momentum all the way up that straightaway, Ty's probably not going to get another chance at him unless Kyle makes another mistake,

which is probably going to be rare. So to take advantage of that right there and live to run another lap and then ultimately it was only one more corner you were in second place, right? So to learn from that and big win for Ty, very big win for Ty. And I thought Larson was very good.

Larson said in his interview that he didn't rough him up back because Ty didn't lean on him at all. So it was just a good race. I mean, these guys were going at him. We got a shit. I think you see Ty maturing this year. I think a lot of that probably has to do with Austin Payton and some of the guys at pro sport that he's been working with Ty this year. And like you said, though, like he's saying a lot of the right things. He's, you know, gets out of the car.

He said, I'm just trying to earn respect, trying to kind of change my personality a little bit before I get to this cup level. but in some of them moments, like you said, it's a different story last week if he doesn't miss Sam and he hooks him in the front stretch. You know what I mean? So what you're saying and doing out of the car needs to align itself with how you react

to some of the stuff in the car. And I think he's like Brett said, a couple of years ago, he probably hooks Larson right there and goes on to win the race. I see that, you see that maturity level growing and that's just what we, going back two years when he was running Arca,

you know, that's what we talked about on here. Like super, super talented kid. just needs to work on that maturity level and you see it trending in the right direction. I think like I said, I think it's a lot of the people that are around him helping him now. But, you know, those little moments

where something goes wrong on the racetrack, you just have to react a little bit better. You know, but I think that'll come. Like I said, he's whatever he is, 19 years old or so. You know, you can't expect him to be, you know, know, know everything right now. But again.

There are cup drivers that still do it. Yeah. I mean, so it's, it's, you know, it is what it is and he's going to be, he's going to be around forever. So, I mean, I'd love to see him succeed. I'd love to see him do everything right, continue to take the steps in the same direction.

Agreed. Spot on, spot off. It's the first time ever that there isn't a driver with three wins after the first 18 cup races in a season. T.J. Spot on. New car, no notebook. Everybody, we're all learning.

So I wouldn't be surprised if we start going back, we start going back to some of these tracks for a second time that you start seeing some repeat winners. you know, that category. I think it's going to take it's going to take a turn in the second half of the year, though, I believe. So I think you'll see some guys

start to separate themselves. Yeah, I mean, 13 winners already this year is freaking insane. And you look at the wild card races that we call the plate races and the road courses. Cendrick 1-1, Chastain 1-2, Sores 1-1, and Reddick-1.

All first-time winners, except for Ross, obviously, who doubled down on this thing. But what it does is it makes the point screwed up because you're sitting here looking at Daniel Suarez with a win. There's a chance he could miss this playoff, right? Because we still have three wildcard races left. And I don't know, do we count Atlanta this week?

Is it a wild card? Absolutely. It's a pool race package. So now we got four wild card races left. So it could potentially, we could rattle off another four winners here. And a guy with the win be sitting outside of the top 16. But if you look at the points, Ryan Blaney's out, Martin Truex is out, Christopher Bell's out, if we keep seeing winners.

Right now they're the last three in on points. Kevin Harvick is now out if we ended the season today based on where he's at. So you're telling me I got to win two races? I'm telling you you got to win two races if we keep going at this rate. But honestly, it's just, you know, Casey, I've been a part of this sport for a long time and I remember fans jumping up and down screaming, oh, Gordon wins every week, oh, Jimmy wins every week, oh, this guy wins every week. where are those people at now?

Because if they were complaining, they should be happy as a pig and because the reality is we don't know who's going to win going into every single one of these races at this point. No. I mean, you look at just looking at the point standings, as I looked yesterday, I'm not sure where he's at now. But Blaney, I think, is second in points and is in jeopardy of not making the playoffs without a win. You know what I mean? That's insane. I still don't think you get 17 winners.

I think you could easily get 16 probably within wildcards. I don't know that there's going to be any, but that's the same thing. If you get 16 winners, Blaney's out if he's not one of them, you know? So you just got to think about that of there's, if we get the 16 winners, nobody makes it on point. It's all winners. So that would be something else. But yeah, I mean, it's five weeks ago, I thought there was no shot now. I mean, with the with the road courses in Daytona and this week coming up, you know, I think we get 16 winners.

But I don't think we get 17. Be interesting. Moving on to F1, TJ's favorite. After getting booed at Montreal and from the general abuse from fans, F1 driver George Russell said, what gives that guy the right to boo at anyone? I think that's what a lot of people don't really appreciate in this position. Spot on, spot off.

Oh, boy. I watched the 30 for 30 last night on Joy Chestnut and the Kobayashi guy. and I think the Kobayashi guy, there was a point in his career of eating hot dogs for a living where he realized that Americans are greedy-ass. And I think this is what this F-1 guy needs to realize is you're going to go into a bunch of different countries with a bunch of different cultures,

and some fans are going to offer you grace, and some fans are not. And I mean, I saw Matthew Dillner, he sent out a tweet this week, and obviously he's big at the Mad House in the modified world, and he said if you buy a ticket, you buy the right to boo. And I'm not a big booer unless we're playing Clemson. And then I booed my little tail off because I can't stand those turds. But if you're a professional race car driver at an elite series like F1,

why is this? I don't know how you even make it that far if this bothers you. Because to me, you're somewhat of a pansy. I mean, how thin is your skin that you can't get booed? I mean, I can understand if they're calling you name. if they're, you know, whatever. What if they're saying TJ sucks to you all the time? What if you get, like, who cares?

So, but I guess for us, like, TJ, you specifically, you get to hear, you suck a lot. But, like, at NASCAR races, I mean, I can't tell you how many drivers get booed at driver intros. It's just, like, Kyle welcomes it. Denny welcomes it. So is. They don't really have a choice, Casey. But, like, at an F1.

No, but at an F1 race, I mean, are they, is that not the norm? Like do they not booed drivers? Are they more respectful than fans? If this guy wants to hear some shit, I'll let him walk out with Bubba for driver intros and he can have some real problems on this hand. Just walk out with Denny and Martinsville. Yeah, that's all you really need.

It took one race at Martinsville and it went from Danny getting cheered to Danny getting booed by his own people. Which is his home state, by the way. Yes. You remember what race that was, right? Oh, yeah. You don't. Listen, this guy's making $7 million a year for one. I think you can get booed. I think it'll be all right.

But here's what he really screws. One is, or maybe he wants to go back to driving whatever Bix box he was driving last year. Nobody's going to know who he is or half people won't know who he is unless you're really a diehard fan because he ran last every week in a Williams car. But the biggest issue here is

he just opened up a whole new can of worms by telling these people it bothers them because it's only going to get worse now. It's like little, you know, fans like that are like little kids. And I tell people about the stuff even when we say on this show, if we're bothering you, don't listen because we're not going to stop.

But if you let us know we're bothering you, it's probably going to get worse. So I don't know what the game plan is of here coming out and saying, I really get upset when these people boo me. Well, guess what, bud, you're getting ready to hear a whole new world by the time you go to the next race. I think that happens. I'm spot off for his comments, by the way,

but I think that happens when you get into a higher-profile role. I mean, how he went from a field filler car. And when you have a good win, people are all excited to see that because it's cool to see you take a car that should finish 12th and you finish 6 with it, which is not, that's awesome. But now you're in a higher car and that car has, that company has created, they've won a lot of championships. They've made a lot of, and when you look at Jimmy Johnson, what Jimmy ever do but win, and they booed the heck out of him and Jimmy's one of the coolest dudes there is.

So just because you get booed doesn't mean you're a bad guy either. You know, sometimes you're just guilty by association, like me with you two. True. You know what I mean, though. Like, he didn't do anything wrong, really, but you go to your teammates with Lewis and he gets booed, so they're going to boo you. The F1 landscape is completely different than anything we're used to because you're looking at people that are just, how many people are out there are just a Ferrari fan?

You know what I mean? They're just going to, don't matter who's driving there. We just cheer for Ferrari or we cheer for McLaren or country. Countrymen, you know? I just won a Ferrari. I was watching, I was watching the grid walk before the race and they were asking all the people from like Great Britain or whatever

that like who you cheering for today. And they're like, oh, the Brits. I'm just cheering for the Brits. I don't care who they are. Like, I'm just like, so you got people that are against you countrywise. You got people, people like devout followers of just Ferrari or McLaren or whoever else, Red Bull, you know,

they're going to boo you because you're driving for their competitor. Like it's not like it's you. It's just that's how the nature of the beast is, especially over there. So we cheer like if we had an American driver and he went to whatever company, we would cheer, you know, you'd cheer for that company. And if he leaves there and goes to the other company, you'd cheer for that company. You know, so I definitely, as far as George, I think George is on a great job. Speaking of cheer and I just had a great idea. Oh, God. Cheers? Oh, no. Okay. The Simlaws is Casey. I was just to say you made I kind

with Casey, so this is bad. Okay, in order to train her to be a spotter. I don't like this already. In order to train her to be a spotter at Watkins Glen. Rocky Ryan can do it. I need you to let us know your next big eye race that you're going to run and have Casey spot for you. I mean, we can plan that. We can, it doesn't have to be a big race. It can be any race. No, it needs to be a big one. Tuesday.

It's got to fill the pressure. I mean, yes, high stakes, Jason. We normally run on Mondays. Why not you start a little smaller? I know how I race. Listen, this is a fucking video game.

This is as small as we can. Next week. Have you met some of the people that drive ira racing? Real life injuries aren't going to occur. Real life expenses to repair cars are not going to hear. Have you met? Have you met some of the people who drive irisies? Let me take it like it is the cup championship.

Casey, you can virtually get fired because you won't hush. You can virtually hurry. We're going to set this up Tuesday night. Now let's do it on next Monday. Can we switch it too while we're doing it? No. See, next Monday nights is Ford Martin's got a league called Monday Night Racing and it's got a lot of people that like to wreck in there.

Let's do it. And it's like Vargas, um, uh, Will Rogers. There's a handful of guys in there. Okay, so you drive, she spots, you twitch, she twerks. I wreck. Jesus. You just had to throw the inappropriate.

She should probably twit if she's going to twerk. Don't act like you can't because we've seen it. Okay. She hasn't said no. I like our plan. Moving along, I'm sorry I stopped the show for that. All right, Casey. I got to show Chris Rice you're ready for this.

You could virtually hurt me. Emotionally. Emotional damage. All right, move on to Reaction Theater before I make any other. comments. Hey, Doorbup, for Clear fans. This is Mike Davis with Dirty Mo Media, and I want to give you five reasons why RacingUSA.com is our favorite store for NASCAR merchandise.

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Casey's beautiful. But she never, ever pinks her. But Briscoe forgot that he had breaks. Now the pasta's getting high. And it's going to hell. It's time for reaction feeder. A big prop to Jesse O. Wooji, man, started a 24th, finish 22nd, and you missed a wreck. How about that? Great job, Jesse,

great job. You save some money once and for all. It's easy to miss a wreck when you're 40 seconds behind it. Well, not for him sometimes, but he pulled it off this week, I guess. Hi, door bumper clear. I am calling in about the Noah Gregson intentional wreck today. I recently watched the Kyle Bush documentary in which Dale was interviewed multiple times and criticized Kyle in his younger years for how he chose to race his emotions on the racetrack, using his vehicle as a weapon, and how Dale just did not respect that as a competitor or person. Yet Dale is the owner of the race team in which Noah Gregson did just that today. Because not only did Noah do that, but he doubled down and admitted on Live TV that it was intentional.

is she reading that? Absolutely. Does she want him to fire him? I mean, I don't know what she wants. I don't know if she was reading that. Did she take the time to write this thing out and then read it? Because who talks with the word yet comma space in their dialogue? Also, what is early in Kyle Bush's career?

What year is that? Now? Maybe the year you got fired from Henry. Okay, that was a long time ago. It is a different day and age now than what it was then. Do you think that Tommy Joe Martins regrets tagging Kelly in some of them tweets? I'm going on next. Oh, okay.

No. Get to it. What the fuck is wrong with Sage Carum? My God, if he's going to complain about how NASCAR does its racing, then he should get the hell out and go back to IndyCar. Did he think Noah was not going to retaliate after getting hit by him three times? Oh, my God. and then the Tommy Joe Martins was posting on Twitter

you know and plus telling Dale and Kelly what to do you don't tell them what to do they run their own damn business Jesus Christ and I think it's been fairly successful Yeah it's not bad

It has a pretty decent business model I don't know if you Google How much Tell Jr's worth I don't know if he's doing that great I said you could tell He struck a nerve with Kelly because I don't see her that active On Twitter very often

And she was she was firing some replies around He's doing well enough. We could be on. Tommy Joe's always loved to play the victim thing. You know, Tommy Joe, he lives for that stuff. And look, the thing gets me about Sage is if you came out of IndyCar, you can't even touch over there. So just the fact that you got fenders on, you think you're going to race everybody like a tool and what it does? And this, I'm telling you right now, in TV, it's hard to show the whole field at one time.

But this guy was continuously using this method to pass cars. He does it all the time. And, yeah. Oh. Last year, too. It was code everywhere. Like, you can't, like, you can't. Like, yeah, you can, nobody minds you bumping doors,

but when your method is to run them off the track, they're going to have enough of it. And I have nothing wrong with Noah retaliating. I just have the result of the retaliation was not good. He needs to be better at executing his plan, which I think was just to ship the guy off the course, but it did not happen like that. But yeah, and just stop the other guy.

Yeah. I would like to give what an idiot award, not to Noah Gregson, but to the NASCAR officials, who decided that he should not be penalized for admitting to causing a wreck at the most narrow part of Rhode America and wiping out a third of the field

and then saying that he took responsibility, but he's sick of being ran into and then he's fighting for a championship. As someone called for, and it's ridiculous, the NASCAR does not step in. I feel like that guy's a sportscaster somewhere.

Yeah, this could come back to Haunt. Like, Noah will feel the wrath of this probably more ways than what we'll ever see because people are going to race him and remember this when they catch when he catches certain cars they're going to not they're going to hey man you took me out here i'm not going to make it easy on you to pass and he's going to it's not going to be as easy at certain times but you know i don't know i think tj you almost feel more of the wrath of this walking into the garage at Atlanta and having all those guys look at you yeah like you you took me out last week because you got mad and it wasn't right like i i think the wrath is

pulling up to the airport and getting on the airplane with all the crew guys that spent all week fixing those cars. Yeah. Like I don't think the wrath is just on the racetrack. Because look, there's not a lot of guys that can catch Noah Gregson on the racetrack. And look, I mean,

Noah plays this role well, but I do give him credit for getting out and taking and handling it. Yeah. A lot of guys, like you said, would run from it. You talk about that wrath. I mean, I got a feeling he's going to get a,

have a conversation with Dale or Kelly or both. I'm sure. Like, you know, this is not okay. You can't do this and make us look bad. Yeah. I bought it for Tyler Reddy. Man, so glad to see Children's and the number eight back in Victor Lane and the best driver at RCR. Not the Silver Spoon Boy.

Glad to see that. So glad he was able to win. Hope everybody's having a good fourth. Go America. Go America. Put a boot in your ass, baby. Let's go America. It's the American way.

Go down. See him. What do you say? Hey Brett, how about them dogs? What dogs? That's how you said. I can hear that part. That's not a dog.

If you would just take your own advice at Casey and shut the hell up for a second. I thought you'd drink sweet tea when you held that bojangle sweet tea. All right. Well, to leave an audio message 24-7, all you have to do is go to anchor.fm. slash dormpiper clear and click the message icon. We'll keep playing the best ones each week on the show. What's up, Dirty Mo Media fans? This is Indycar Driver, Connor Daly.

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what features must you have in the home? TJ. Oh, man. A mansion would have a complete wing of the house that would only be accessed by me. Like a bad cave? No, like a bat, not just a cave. I mean, I need a freaking bat, like house.

Basically, you need another house away from your wife? Yeah, everybody. I mean. There. I don't know. I mean, if you're going to be cool, you got to have an elevator, things like that. I mean, basically, just probably take Denny's list when he built his house and check most of it. Yeah, because he's, I think his clause is big enough. It's probably bigger than our house. Yeah. So.

Freddie. Yeah, I mean, you got to have some kind of game room, some kind of like entertainment room. I definitely need an elevator because my fat ass ain't going upstairs all day long. RPG room. RPG room. Big pool, nice pool. Other than that, I don't know. I'm pretty easy.

Ten car garage, Mazurati. That's where I was going to go. I want an HVAC unit for my garage. So if it's hot outside, it's 69 degrees in my garage. If it's cold outside, it's 69 degrees in my garage. I know somebody that's right now at your house. If I go in and out of my house, I automatically is 69 degrees. Why don't they do that for garages?

Because they're harder to seal off. So, Elliot, actually, when he built his home in poory virginia. Elliot hates to be cold. Listen to me. Wait, put a heater in there? He hates to be cold. So he had a full-blown thermostat just for his garage.

For winter. I want it for summer. Yeah, yeah. He's got a full-blown thermostat in there just for his garage. So we get up, we go hunting, we leave the doors open all day. We come back that night. Freaking eater ran all day long. He got the bill and he completely cut the cord on that thing.

He's like, hell no. But Elliot is the only guy I know that has a full-blown heater. He doesn't have the AC because he doesn't feel hot. It'll be 80 degrees outside and he's like, man, it's chilly out of here today. And I'm like, fuck, I'm dying. But no, Elliot's got one. Go get a cash offer on your home today with our presenting sponsor, offerpad.com. Time for us to get into our favorite X-Fi more than fast moments from the week.

whether you are behind the wheel or online, speed isn't the only thing you need. What were your favorite more than fast moments this week? TJ. I think I'm going to take the easiest one here. My Xfinity X-5, more than fast moments, going to be Tyler Redick. I think that's the obvious one for all of us here, passing Chase Elliott, under green, getting it done, winning the race. I'm going to go with the second obvious then, for sure, Ty Gibbs, Xfinity,

X-Five more than fast moment. He passed the fastest driver in the world. It doesn't matter what. Larson gets in. He's fast, and Ty Gibbs took him to school. My X-Finity X-5 more than fast moment goes to a combination of people. It's Brett and Daniel Hemrick for how fast they were going when they ran in the back of my car

in that wreck in turn five or whatever turn it was. Yeah. That, we've seen a couple guys steal some playoff points there. Briscoe and Blaney played some strategy. He steals some playoff points in the two stages. So those are my experience. X-Fi more than fast moments of the week.

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That's right. Thank you to Xfinity. Prad Premier Partner of NASCAR. What an idiot. Time for what an idiot. Freddie. You have one. I got one for sure.

One quick one. My one idiot is Tyler Reddick. I called him to come on the podcast and he said he would have loved to, but he's in the simulator already this morning. Like not celebrating his win. I could understand. I would be okay with it if he told me, Freddie, I can't. come in because I'm partying as hard as I can and I'm not going to make it.

But he said he's in the simulator today all day long and he's not going to make it. So, I mean, this guy's right back to work already after everyone in your first race. What an idiot. That's impressive. My, what an idiot, and I love this part of the show, is anybody that can sit around on July 4th and watch those people eat hundreds of hot dogs in the hot dog eating contest. I was literally gagging as they were shoving these wet buns. Oh, the wet buns did me.

You are an idiot because you watch them. And then you watch the wet buns in situations like me where it's running down their beards. And they're doing like these dance moves and I can't tell if they're dancing or gagging. And I am literally like, oh my God, I'm going to vomit. So my what an idiot is all of you who tune in to ESPN to watch Joey Chitwood cram 60 hot dogs. I don't think of that Joe Chisholm. Joy Chestnut. Kenny Chesney.

Kenny Chesney cram 60 hot dogs down his throat in eight minutes. what Joey Chitwood was probably not the person that was you are an idiot because it's not wrong Joey DJ

I mean I guess I'll stick to the race track this week I mean since you guys don't want to go with it and there's a long list of idiots out there this week obviously the biggest miscalculated

attempt all day could be Noah it could be you know quietly sage for building these points up and finally give getting a slam dunk. You know, but I don't know. I, I, all right, Noah, you win.

So listen, and I had this, this just come up again this week. Me and TJ both kind of got this. But some people have come up and complained, you know, and I've had in the past with people, Noah was one of them. That's like, hey, you talk trash about me on your show. And I told Noah, just like I told this person on Saturday, listen, we don't make anything up on this show. Like there's not, we don't make up situations.

call people an idiot. I told Noah to his face, we'll stop talking about the dumb you do when you stop doing dumb shit. Like if you don't want any attention on you, stop doing dumb shit and we'll have nothing to say. So I mean, that goes for everybody across all forms of racing or anything else. Like if you don't want anybody talking about you, don't give him a reason to say anything. Yeah, I agree. I totally agree. You would have been my what an idiot or Baba had you clobbered us in one. If we would have. How about, you know what? you know, so I watched a replay of it later on and I'm listening to the broadcast of it. And Del Jr. goes, and he gets a little help from Brad.

No, we did not help with it. There's your idiot. Yeah. I mean, damn. That dude was wrecking like way before he got to us. And luckily, we didn't get any help from him at that point. I said to Brent, I had Brent Wentz over there. And I said, I said, what happened?

He just wholesaled in there. He goes, oh, yeah. He said, I knew a pit road exit. We weren't going to make that corner. He said he darted out to the right and was flying. I was watching SMT and I'm like, that's a little far back. And then he carried a lot of speed into one.

So it's a good weekend of racing at least. I'm, you know, maybe, maybe we can talk some MX5 owners and it'll let us rerun on. I heard that thing's like 15 grand. Yeah, they are. So did you notice like every time they go into the last corner, the guy leading,

you go out of sight, the guy lead, they'd come back in a turn five and that guy would be like fifth or six every single time. So they must have a monster Draft. Monster draft. You versus Jesse Ougi in that car who wins? I don't know.

You want to find out? Yeah. Okay. Let's go. What do we got to raise? 15 grand? Yeah, I'm in.

Probably 30 because he needs one too. Brett, you're rich. You have that. How much you're going to put up? A trophy? Oh, so you're going to beat him. If I win?

Oh. I mean, I hope I get a trophy. You're usually pretty cocky. I know the sponsor. You're not a sponsor. I'm not the sponsor. I am. Jason, who do you think wins?

is TJ or Jesse Owooggi? T.J. That was quick. That doesn't really. Jesse Ougi or Casey? Jesse would be. What about if it's a golf cart? It depends on if it's got the key in it or not.

You literally have no idea. Casey, let's go through some of the slang terms. Let me hear you say inside. Yeah. After you get done chugging your NOS energy, which is also a spotter move pre-race. That's how we pre-game. Yeah. Let me hear you say inside.

Yeah. Inside? Inside? Outside. Outside. Clear. Clear. Spin in front of you.

Spin in front of you. Spin behind you. Spin behind you. What the fuck was that guy doing? What the fuck? I thought you were talking about me. Sorry. What the fuck was that guy doing?

You can't hesitate. I'm so sorry. Cases hesitation. Hesitations. Cases fears to come true. You just got to go with your gut. I think you can do it. I think we got a chance.

I think there's a chance. Yeah. I'll tell you one thing. We did a really good job in DBC picks this week. Do you see where we all finished? Fifth, sixth, seventh, eighth, and ninth. I mean, honestly. And the three of me, you, and T.J.

were like bumper to bumper on the last lap. I was like, damn. Yeah, I saw that. I didn't know I won till just now. I picked next to last. I thought I was toast. But you guys didn't realize how good Daniel Sweres is on road courses. My guy was faster at the end.

He just couldn't get around. He's amazing. All right. Well, I don't get to pick till last. Jason? So Brett still leads now. He leads six to, four to three to two with

Freddie and I tied for second, T.J. third, case you last. Now for Atlanta, I'm going to pick Bubba Wallace. Ah, man. It's a good pick, Jason. Dude, my guy and your guy were battling until the last, like the last very end. Yeah, I was hoping I was going to get a shot at Bubba here because Atlanta, I mean, here's the difference, right?

Obviously, we've been there before. We just ran a 500-mile race. We get no practice going into this weekend. The track is going to be a lot hotter, 90-plus degrees for track temps for sure, looking at Saturday and Sunday. Obviously, we're talking about Sunday here. Handling is going to have to come into play more, right? More so than spring. I don't know, man, but teams have gotten better.

That's true. So a lot of factors is I try to buy you more time, T.J. to come up with your pick. Who did you pick? I'm next. I'm next. Okay, so you're next. I'm really sorry.

I feel like I jinx every driver that I pick, so I apologize to my brother-in-law, but I'm going to pick Kurt Bush. Who did you pick Jason? Bubba. Okay. I will take Ross Chesting.

E.J. I'm going to go out on a limb here. And I'm feeling a good race for Ricky Stenhouse. Man, that leaves me with basically nobody. I'll go with Eric Jones.

That's a good pick. Fair. Pick last. That's all I got. I'm loaded up. I've saved all my picks. I'm going to wear you guys out here this last week. Dude, I'm,

have you not looked at mine? I've got some pretty good ones left. All right. Well, we are. There aren't that many weeks left. Is this reset? Yeah, resets up the playoffs.

Sweet. I am setting up for a good run here. Well, we are headed to Hot Lana, where it will literally be miserable. Surface of the sun. What can we expect as we watch? See, you know, sweating.

Besides that. Yeah, there's no practice or quality. or qualifying. We just show up in race. There is qualifying. There's qualified. Oh, that's right. But we don't practice.

We don't practice. Yeah. So we qualify, which is going to be hold it wide open and see where you end up. I think no practice is a good thing. I think it makes some unknowns

going into the race because the surface is hotter. It's going to be slicker. I like it. Some guys are going to miss. I think some guys are going to miss the setup. You know what I mean? And this is a place where

you want to be able to hold it wide open, but will you be able to with this hot and this slick? and if you can't, if you don't have enough downforce in your car, you could be in trouble. It wasn't that cold last time there. It was actually pretty nice weather, so it was fairly warm last time we did. But it wasn't a track temp of 100 plus degrees. Yeah.

I think it's definitely going to be hotter, but I... She's going to be greasy. Yeah. Which might, when guys have to lift, it creates runs, which create passing. So we might all be in for a show. The Xfinity race is 515, so that'll be hot, but not as hot as hot as. Sunday at 315. It would be a good show.

Get your tank tops ready. Yes. I will be there as well as these guys. So be sure they stop by and say high. Come out on the roof. Put your headset on. Let's get acclimated to the...

Sacco. Coming up. You need to just... You need to pretend you're spotting. Like pick a car and pretend you're spotting it. And pick a bad one. Don't pick a good one because it's easy to say, Clear by 5.

She'll pick the leader. Yeah. I'm going to take Kyle Larson. You just need to pick somebody mid-pack that's racing pretty hard and give info. All right. Deal. I got to give a shout out. I met my future driver this week.

I think you guys met him on Sunday. Oh my gosh. The Mullet Kid. The Mullet Kid. Easton. Easton Vedito, I believe his last name was. He was a trip. I seen him after we crashed on Saturday.

I went over to the other spotter stand and let my other spotter know that I was leaving. He can ride home or find a ride home. and they came over and talked to me a little bit and the kid asked me if I would spot for he's seven years old and he asked me if I would spot for him when he goes cup racing so of course I said sure I'll be tired of boba now but I'll really be tired of bubba by then

so then they came back and seen we've seen Brett and T.J. on Sunday so it was pretty cool he's got a badass mullet some pit viper sunglasses yes that kid fits the part his wording what did he say he worded something like

I forget what he said, but it was like the kids, your delivery of this is amazing. What did he say? Other than, I don't remember. He was talking about listening to the show and we started questioning. Oh, yeah, we started questioning his parents. He's like, I'll listen every week.

And I'm like, look, it's probably not a good. Big fan of Jason for bleeping out all the F bombs in there. Sorry, I miss one every once in a while. I think it's funny when you miss him. His hair, his sunglasses, the kid looked like he's. having a great weekend. He said he could come to some more races, so hopefully I said him soon. Great personality, good fun kid.

Well, we could probably set him up with Chloe. Oh, that's true. What? Chloe was Miss Congenial. I saw a car. I saw, my gosh. The whole race weekend at the track, she was kissing drivers as they left. Literally the kid next to this gunner, sets her, gets in the car, and he has, she has his helmet on,

and all of a sudden, Chloe's waving, and then kissing him about, I was like, excuse me. She really knows how to pick them. That falls right after her mother. Yeah, I was going to say. Close to the tree. It's easy like Sunday morning. And on that note,

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