Door Bumper Clear - 259 - Atlanta II: Don't Give an F Tour
Episode Date: July 11, 2022Door Bumper Clear returns from a hot weekend at Atlanta Motor Speedway with special guest co-host and NASCAR Truck Series driver Hailie Deegan. Brett Griffin, T.J. Majors and Freddie Kraft first discu...ss Hailie’s top-10 run at Mid-Ohio. Plus, they react to NASCAR penalizing Noah Gragson for his incident with Sage Karam at Road America four days after the event.To start Spot On, Spot Off, the crew discusses Chase Elliott’s move to block Corey LaJoie in Turn 2 on the final lap of the Cup race. The guys applaud LaJoie for running up front but question some of his late moves and debate if wrecking his car going for the win was justified.Ross Chastain turned Denny Hamlin in Turn 4 with 14 laps to go. The guys talk about Hamlin’s post-race comments expressing his frustration and question when he intends to retaliate.Chastain caused another wreck when he got into the back of Martin Truex Jr. in Turn 2 and collected multiple drivers. After getting caught up in the wreck, Austin Dillon said in an interview what he thinks of Chastain. Hear where the spotters place blame for the aggression and incident. TJ also shares where Aric Almirola’s spotter does not want to see Chastain.Michael Waltrip tweeted about adding banking to more tracks to create additional superspeedway type races. The guys talk about how Atlanta compares to other recently reconfigured tracks and what will happen when the track ages. Plus, they predict how the Next Gen car will race at upcoming tracks.Finally, Joe Gibbs Racing swapped two members of Bubba Wallace’s pit crew with Christopher Bell’s crew. Producer Jason Schultz reads Dave Moody and Denny Hamlin’s Twitter exchange about the change and the guys talk about how it can benefit both teams.In Reaction Theatre, fans call in about Parker Kligerman and Zane Smith’s battle at Mid-Ohio, NBC cutting to Dawsonville during the broadcast and some strong opinions about Ross Chastain’s driving during the race. Thank you to our presenting sponsor Offerpad and partners Xfinity and RacingUSA.com for making this show possible. Want more DBC? Check out and subscribe to the new DBC YouTube channel! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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You're listening to Door Bumper Clear, presented by Offerpad, and I'm T.J. Majors.
We're back from Atlanta with a lot to talk about with our special guest, co-host, Haley Deegan.
Today we'll talk Chase Elliott's winning block on Corey Lejoy, Ross Chastain, making more friends, Joe Gibbs Racing Pit Crew changes, and lots more.
Let's get started.
Nobody's listening, but I don't care.
I'm on an episode of Door Bumper Clear.
Hey, everybody. I'm TG Majors.
Spotted to the 68.
Xvenity car this weekend, the six cup car.
I didn't look at my sheet.
Didn't even read that.
Didn't even have to read it this time.
So a very big day.
We're missing Casey, but we've replaced her.
My name is Brett Griffin, and I'm never drinking again.
My name is Freddie Kraft, and he is a lying son of a shit.
I'm going to get up.
Lightning's getting ready to strike.
Oh, I'm Haley Degan, driver of the number one Ford F-150.
Let's talk about what people drive around here, Yuppie Tesla, T.J.
I roll up to the parking lot this morning, Freddie, and I enter our gate code.
Yes, we're in a gated freaking community.
Our show has gotten so big.
So I roll into this gate, and I see Haley getting out of this sexy Mustang GT, and I see Yuppie
Tesla T.J rolling out of this plug-in car.
I might get that as my license plug in now, Tesla T.J.
You maybe shouldn't drink anymore.
Meanwhile, you know, we won't talk.
about some of the vehicles you show
at bit. I mean, you had to mom minivan
at one time. I was. My sister's
totaled. It's gone. Oh, yeah.
It's gone. Way to bring up old shit. I mean, that's
not good. He's got his
daughter's car after the time. It just depends on where his
truck gets left at. It depends on the night.
It can be tough. Sunday nights usually end up.
Sunday nights are my Friday, 5 o'clock
Happy Hour. Big Al's looks like it's
open at 4 o'clock in the morning because there's so
many trucks still parked out front. You're not a very
good alderman.
I don't know what that word is, but we'll talk about that
What's up Jason?
Hey, what's up Jason Shell's producer, director of content.
Haley, we got to go back to mid-Ohio because I've seen you drop some dead weight this week
and left T.J. home.
I know first top 10 of the season.
I didn't even know T.J wasn't even going to be there until like the week of the race.
And I was like, hold up.
I started looking at the Cubs schedule.
I was like, wait, they're out of Atlanta.
I was like, oh, man, TJ's not going to be there this weekend.
You're like, way to go.
His Tesla can't go that far.
You're out of charge.
I don't have a battery to get there.
No, he's got to.
Got a good backup spotter that he sent with me over there.
And he does a good job.
He sounds just like TJ and so it works out pretty well.
It's like a robot.
Poor guy.
He actually is a robot.
I plugged, charged him before he went up there.
Next to my Tesla.
Let's see your car.
You got to tell me what was it like qualifying in mid-Ohio?
Because I turned it on and 17 trucks, I think, spun out on the first before they even got to the replay.
I think it's more than that.
Oh, my God.
It was miserable.
It was probably the most miserable qualifying of ever.
had. Like never, there wasn't a moment on track during qualifying where I was like, man, like,
I love this. Like, this is great. It was, you were just like a quarter throttle on straightways.
And people, there was more people spun out off the track. I'd than more people I saw on the
track. I was like, I don't even know how I'm going to make a lap. And we didn't spin out. Thank God,
but we were just going so slow that we weren't spinning out. So I was like, man, I was on the
mindset of like, if I just stay on track, like, I might just be able to out qualify everyone.
But there was a couple people towards the end in the second group that it started drawing.
out a little bit, but it was just a mess. And they told us before we actually went out,
they weren't going to send us out for qualifying if it rained because everyone was already
locked in. So they said there's no reason to. But I think they had some call with TV.
The TV won some entertainment. Yeah, yeah. I'm like, play practice. I'm like, you guys didn't play that.
Just throw that up on there. But when I turned it on and I saw the rain, you know that some of them
videos are a little clipsy is like, it was at this moment. He knew. It was at that moment I knew
of mid-Ohio was not going to, I'm glad that it was good not to go there.
That's a hard racetrack when it's dry.
I mean, it's fast.
It's fast.
Yeah, there's a lot of hard breaking zones.
You just get everyone that learns it in practice, a little time you get in practice.
And then you send them out on qualifying in the rain.
And it was just, um, yes.
So if you run those first two sessions, the track got better as it went.
Why did they not run the last one?
I was ready for it.
I didn't even know they didn't run the last one.
I don't know.
They ran A and B and then they called it after that.
but the track was getting better.
Yeah, the track was getting better.
So they probably saw the show that ensued.
Like, I was there for it.
Like, I'm not there.
I was,
dude, you were not there.
You were watching for it.
If you were there,
you would have wanted them to call it, probably.
100%, yeah.
Yeah, it was a great.
So I wanted to watch.
How is Atlanta?
Hot.
Really hot.
Like, it was pretty warm.
It was pretty warm.
NASCAR has now given us coolers.
Thank you.
Thank you.
And yeah, I went for a water yesterday, about halfway, and they were gone.
So I slammed a power aid.
Hey, I mean, I'm just glad they had it.
Yeah, I mean, it's nice to, at least when there's no cover or anything, you know what I mean?
We need it, man.
We need it.
So shout out to them for that.
But Atlanta was really cool.
I thought it was a lot different than the spring, especially for Xfinity, because it was so hot and slick.
You know, you didn't get that pack racing like you thought you'd get.
Obviously, the cup car is more down force, wider tire, a little bit different there for Sunday.
but awesome races
I thought the Xenny race was good
it had a very old school
Daytona-ish type deal
where you had to lit
like there was
the group could separate
you know like four or five of us
Brandon was able to stay in the front group there
but we would lose the guy off the back of the pack
he couldn't he couldn't keep up
and we were fourth or so in that line
but Brandon was able to stay with them
but it had that that deal where if you lifted too much
and got just a little bit too far back
you were gone by it and it was spread out too
It was very, very old school Daytonish on a new Atlanta.
So in the laps, man, the laps click off fast.
Like I, like, not for me.
Why?
I was running.
I was running 50th the whole cup race and nothing went, nothing went fast.
I was talking about experience.
Oh, okay.
Cup race, they were, I mean, they were clicking off pretty good.
I'm a big fan of being 400 miles.
First of all, I don't want to go anywhere twice anymore.
more. Atlanta should be one time.
Let's keep going to new markets. Let's do fun
things. But if we're going to go twice, at least
the track got it right and there's a 400 mile race.
Yeah, and I will say the track is
I miss the old Atlanta,
but this is, uh, we're still
getting. It was exciting.
Yeah, you're getting an exciting race still. It's not the same
save your tires type deal. Now it's, don't wreck this thing,
which is entertaining as well to me.
Yeah. You didn't want Ross Chastain behind you yesterday.
Yeah?
I wouldn't want them behind me next to me anywhere near me.
He was behind us a little bit and he kept trying to get to the outside and one.
I mean,
eventually he was going to force it.
You know what I mean?
That's what I did everybody.
I mean,
that's how I made every pass yesterday.
Yeah.
So definitely.
I'm sure we'll talk about it.
Yeah.
I was going to say,
we're probably not going to let that go.
Was the,
how was the truck race up there?
It was actually pretty good at Middoham.
I feel like for me, at least,
we had a pretty good truck.
Second stage, we're actually making some good headway in first stage.
We went from like 27th is where we started to 15th in the first stage.
And then second stage, we kind of got off on our change, just wasn't great.
And we went back on that for the third stage.
We kind of just stayed stagnant in the second stage.
And then third stage, we went back forward and kept picking them off.
So for me, I felt like it went really good.
I don't know.
I feel like the more road courses that I go to, the more I'm like,
man, road courses, I may be better on those
than actually going to the circle track stuff.
But I enjoyed it.
I had a great time.
I feel like he's a really good race.
It seems like the leader.
He's exciting?
Yeah, the leader and Zane finished.
Like, their race was great the whole time
going back and watching the whole race.
I saw all the magnets found each other in turn one that one time.
The same ones, the 61, the 22, the 91.
It's like the magnets always find each other at some point.
Yeah.
I mean, you got to give credit to them guys at the end, though.
like Parker and Zane put on a hell of a race.
Zane very easily could have put the bumper to him in that last corner didn't do it.
You know, tried to do it the right way.
Just the emotion you heard on the radio from that 75 team.
I assume that was the owner.
But I mean, that was a great moment, especially for Parker to get another win there.
He's won in that truck before, but mostly I think everyone's been in a plate race.
So this one was a little more driver related.
And not that the other one wasn't, but this one plays a little bit bigger factor into it.
It's good for that team.
but was there any,
never saw anything on TV,
but was there anything that happened on Pit Road
that you saw after the race?
Anything go down?
Not really.
I mean,
I really figured the way
the 88 was looking for the 22
that they were going to get into it.
No, I didn't see anything happen.
I was kind of waiting for it too
because I got into a few people.
I was waiting for someone to come over to me,
but nothing really came about it.
Is that who got the 88?
It was 22?
I think so.
Yeah.
Did you see the Archer race?
Was it awesome back in it?
Yeah.
Yeah, I saw an ARCA demolition derby.
I did not see an ARCA race.
That was ridiculous.
Like, there is no racing anymore.
What have you come to expect from ARCA?
I mean, it's, it's not a bad part about it is it is, it is actually going into the truck series a little bit too.
Well, because that's what they're coming from.
It's carrying into the truck series.
Because if you get, if you get out of the, if your fifth from fifth on fifth to 25th is a absolute, like,
just dog fight like it's bad and there's no there's nothing like zane and and them like uh then parker
up front like zane could have hit him he could have moved him but he didn't and there's no
racing like that anymore it's i'm going to wreck you at all costs and for 17th place i'm still
going to wreck you and and that's it yeah so i think zane smith is the next guy to come out of trucks
to do something big he's showing the maturity um the the the um the the speed the maturity
and just he fits the part.
You know, he can put together a race
as he's showing how to,
he fights through adversity,
puts together a good race.
If you're hiring,
if you got an open seat right now,
are you hiring,
are you hiring John Hunter?
If I'm in a cup,
I'm hiring Noah Glaxon.
If I'm an Xfinity,
that was not the option.
If I'm an Xfinity,
that was not a lot of us.
You didn't say which series.
I said the option is,
if you own a cup car,
are you hiring Noah Graz,
not Noah Gregson,
you are hiring no,
You said cup car just then.
Cup car, yeah.
Are you hiring John Hunter or are you hiring?
I'm hiring O'Rexon.
Okay.
Dumbach.
One more time.
Zane Smith, John Hunter, Neumichick.
Zane Smith.
What about you?
I would probably hire John Hunter Nebuchek.
Only for the fact that he's got more experience in Zane.
And the fact that you owe him.
T.J. just talked yesterday about.
Yesterday.
Yeah.
Yesterday in the elevator shaft slash stairwell.
You were in the shaft?
You should have gotten the elevator.
We just thought, he just said yesterday, look at John Hunter and Emichick.
When he went to KBM, how many races did you think he would win?
Versus how many he's actually won?
Seven.
But, I mean, you said, you thought he would set the world on fire.
I thought he would, you know, I thought he'd win more races.
Yeah.
So I did think he would win more.
He's been in contention for those wins.
something he's either taking himself out somehow or you know something else most of time he just
seems like he gets into stuff that doesn't need to happen so he definitely does make more mistakes than
zane for sure um you know puts himself in bad spots and ends up getting in pissing matches with
like the 22 last year who wrecked him in martinsville you know stuff like that but i don't know just
based on experience level i mean i'm talking about splitting hairs here you know that's not like i would
and i thought john hunter did fine in that 38 car when he drove that's kind of what i was getting at he did
Good job.
You did.
I see you got your reckless society apparel today.
Yeah, yeah, we just got a bunch of new stuff.
And it's always, yeah, it's really cool because we started this clothing brand and it was just
like out on a whim on it.
And mostly when it comes to my merchandise, that's not necessarily like my style of what I
like or like I grew up.
Where you're going after the NASCAR fan with your stuff?
I grew up on the West Coast.
So it's a little bit different style.
And my style is definitely different than here.
But I wanted to start something that like represented like.
like truly like what I love and like what it's what I love being around and being a part of and it's
taken off pretty good we sold out of everything the first run and we just we kind of ordered a bunch of
stuff got a bunch of stuff made had really cool designs and it all just flew off the shelf so we kind
of went into it to like a good panic of man we need more stuff so this stuff isn't released just yet
but it's going to be coming out this week that's awesome so if I can ask for something can we give
Jason and TJ shirts so they're not Twinsies every time we're yeah we can do that
We can do that.
I don't know.
Jason and TJ are wearing the same exact shirt today.
Jason is never in our photo op post show.
He will be today because I want everybody to see Twinsies.
It's just going to be the two of them.
They were throwing a tennis ball back and forth before the show started.
Well, I wanted to see his reflexes.
And just for the record, Jason dropped it like four times.
Jason's out of cross fit.
We don't see reflexes.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
It's obvious you're a cross fitter.
Thank you.
Listen, if I don't know this, I was going to wear the shirt.
Last time I wore the other shirt,
Nell Jr. wore it.
So I'm not wearing him anymore.
T.J.
usually works in the gray zone,
so he's wearing gray.
But this week, he went full color.
Yeah, I wanted to pop this week.
I wanted a pop.
Brett, you said you're quitting drinking.
Haley turns 21 next week.
So do you have any wisdom to give her before that?
Haley, if you were going to drink,
what would be your shrink of choice?
Oh, man.
How would she know?
Hypothetically.
I mean, let's just hypothetically.
She's been in bars and restaurants.
I'm not allowed to go into bars.
What pills to you?
Do you have a real ID?
My ID is real.
I don't know.
Like, are we thinking vodka, or are we thinking Crown Royal?
I feel like I wouldn't be a beer person.
I don't know.
I feel like I would not be a beer person.
I feel like a beer belly wouldn't suit good on me.
Jason will show you some white-closy.
Yeah, they're really good.
I've heard a lot of bad things about tequila.
Tennessee will do tequila.
Freddie's not a beer guy either, and you can just let you know.
So you turn 21 a week from today?
Exactly. What is it today?
The 11th? Yeah, away from today.
Wow.
So I'll let you know in a week.
Where's the party? I mean, we're going.
I know.
I don't have a friends out of party.
I used to have a bunch of friends.
I used to have a bunch of friends.
We could have a Brett's house.
Dog treat Dave would be there.
Dog treat Dave was there last night.
That's just me.
Yeah, I just like that name.
Oh, man.
Brett had a friend that used to come over his house all the time and ate all the dog treats
and didn't know they were dog treats.
My grandpa's done that before.
I don't know. It happens.
Brett had a bowl of dog treats next to his door
and was like, where the hell?
Every time I look, this bowl's empty.
Who's giving the dog all these treats?
They was eating the dog treats.
And Dave turned out it was Dave eating all the treats.
There's two dog things that always, it's dog treat Dave,
and I'll wreck the dog.
Yeah, food out of you.
You remember that quote?
Did you see the video?
I heard.
Yeah, that's Jeb's quote.
Did you see the video that we got from all the people,
all the fans about wrecking the dog food out of that guy
on the restarted the dirt race?
Did you see that video?
No.
You didn't see this video?
Somebody de-ended to all three of us.
I did see it.
Holy shit.
He wrecked the dog food out of somebody.
Like, okay, I've got to, I'm going to send you a clip really quick, Haley.
This is worth like, this guy did work.
And I don't know how else to describe it.
When I watched this is like, all right?
I'm like, oh, this is kind of, whatever, you know, boring.
Lambert retweeted it.
The best part of us, Lambert retweeted it and said,
wow, Ross Chastain went dirt track racing.
So last week, all the memes were about nothing.
Noah. And this week, they're all about Ross. I actually tried to get Noah to come on our show today, Jason. We were on the plane and Noah was on my flight. And he goes, and he's a smart ass. You know, Noah's a full-blown smart ass. And he's like, what's going to be your topic of your show tomorrow? And I was like, we should be you. You should come on with us. He said, no, I'm in enough trouble. I'm not coming on your show. You don't get any trouble on this show. That's why I try to explain to him. I was like, nobody listens to our show. NASCAR doesn't listen. Team owners don't listen.
Is that the truck series? Oh, my God.
That's kind of what it feels like.
As soon as you get in that like 8th to 20th area, that's what it feels like.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Oh, wow, that is an intentional.
That's the dog food.
He wrecked the dog food out of it.
I mean, speaking of Noah Glaxen, let's talk about Noah Glaxen a minute.
All right.
He wrecks the dog food out of Sage Carum last week.
We thought there would be a penalty during the race.
Hey, if you read the sheet, there's a penalty topic down here.
Oh, there is?
I didn't read the sheet.
I was drinking on my buddies all night.
We'll just wait to get to that part.
No, let's go ahead.
We're already talking about it.
You're being a bad an acronym or whatever that way.
Alderman.
Alderman.
So I really want to hear Freddy's take on this.
And Haley's.
So Noah Gragson wrecks someone on purpose.
And that same wreck takes out 10 cars.
And NASCAR doesn't do anything during the race.
And then obviously they meet with their committee,
which we've made famous.
And four days later,
they decide to find Noah Gragson $30,000.
It's 10 cars and two balls.
Okay. Bubba Wallace wrecked by himself intentionally, and they find him $50,000.
We spun intentionally.
You spun intentionally. You didn't wreck anybody else.
And Bubba got fined $50,000.
Well, that was an idiot tax on Bubba because you don't ever admit that you do it.
Idiot tax. The idiot tax is $20,000.
Yeah.
So you think Noah avoided the idiot tax?
I think that he did because you don't ever admit to intentionally spinning.
That was dumb on Bubba's part.
Yeah, but you don't want to do that.
Listen, we talk.
I'm of the opinion better late than never because you have to get it right.
We said on here you have to do something here to draw a line.
And they did.
And, you know, it was a 30 point penalty and a $35,000 fine.
And it doesn't sound like a lot.
But that 30 point penalty took him from, you know, five points out of third and 30 points out of second and points.
to now he's back to fifth because it brought him back to Josh Berry,
who they finished second and fifth or something this week,
and Josh jumped him in points.
So now that's,
we talked about one playoff point being a big deal.
You potentially took him.
I mean, he was only 39 points out of the lead when he got this penalty.
So you took him from 39 to 69.
You know, the chances of him catching AJ now are slimmer.
But, I mean, that could have potentially been a eight playoff point penalty right there.
So, I mean, it's a pretty substantial penalty.
We didn't get the, obviously the fine was lower,
but we didn't get a point penalty.
I don't believe that when that happened back in the day.
So I'm good with it, man.
I said last week we had to draw a line in the sand,
and they've kind of at least said,
hey, you can't intentionally wreck anybody.
So,
the points.
How did he come up with that money?
Jesus.
30 grand.
I've seen him selling everything.
And they don't let you show up until you pay your fine.
You got to pay your fine first.
So, Haley, my question to use this.
Oh, man.
You're a driver.
You're a driver.
You're behind Noah Gragson.
Noah Gragson creates this massive wreck intentionally.
and you get in it.
Are you mad at Noah Gregson?
Like, do you put that in the back of your brain
as if I ever see this idiot doing something stupid
I'm gonna wreck him?
I wouldn't say so because it happens to me
almost every other week in the truck series.
It's not very boring.
But also, you gotta look at who Noah was racing with.
I've dealt with the same situation
with the same driver.
Remember, TJ and Martinsville?
Were you there for that?
I think you're there.
Are you talking about the guy
that would just roll in there
and running?
We're talking about Sage Carrel.
That's still the conversation.
Remember at Martinsville, we were dealing with the same thing.
I was pissed.
DJ is pissed.
My crew chief was pissed.
And almost the same result came of it.
But it's, it just, I probably will have waited until the next corner.
But I don't know if necessarily it was like a penalty because of what it caused after.
Like maybe if it didn't wrecked 10 cars and whatnot that he wouldn't have gotten that penalty.
Because I watch people in the truck series intentionally wreck each other all the time.
Like 61 tried to do it to me.
at mid-Ohio all I did was just crank front brake to it and just stop in the middle of the corner
and I was like I ain't going anywhere and neither are you so it's it's something that I see all the time
in the truck series and I think the penalty more so came because of what how many truck or how many cars
got wrecked I don't think there's a penalty if no they're oh yeah I don't think so well there
wouldn't if he wasn't an idiot like here's the rule of thumb here if you're going to do this
don't wreck yourself in the process like that's the number one rule like if you're
going to hook a guy, hook him and get rid of them. Don't mess around and half-ass do it and
wreck yourself. Because if he just does it like, he probably should have done it. I think what he
expected is to send him off to the left and he'd be out of the way and he would have went out of
the way, but that's not how it worked out. Yeah, but like you did it, it would not have been a penalty,
I don't think, if it didn't wreck half the damn fuel behind him. Well, it makes it fun.
It makes it fun for your turn one spotter. How do you think he would have called that wreck?
he is retired he is now an auctioneer he had a turn one spoter my guy would have called it like this
he had a turn one spotter at road up road america and he said the guy go ahead now what was it like
he just didn't shut the fuck up the whole race like in the turn one like how to go play racing
yeah it was like he was rattling off an arithmetic problem oh man that's the worst and you can't
kef to like tell him to you can stop channel two i was like politely trying to tell him shut the
up and he wasn't catching my hand.
Oh, he couldn't hear you.
My channel two guy couldn't hear me on channel.
My turn one guy couldn't hear me on channel two last week.
But I mean, look, road courses are fun.
You had a great spotter experience this weekend with your third spotter since Tesla
TJ could make it.
I don't know.
Rights and lefts are hard when they're driving at you.
Yeah, yeah.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know the spotter game because I'm not a spotter, but one of my spotters did call them
on the opposite side.
He's calling his right and left, not my right and left.
That's pretty smart of him.
I mean, that's...
I don't know how the whole spotting game works, but...
Well, I can tell you, it doesn't work like that.
That was a little correction.
That was the first time I had to make that correction with the spotter.
I think next time, Jason Schultz should be your third spotter.
Yeah, I'd be a great spotter.
You think so?
No.
He was going to send Jason and Casey with Haley next time.
He's got to be better at spotting than he is at catching a tennis ball.
Yeah, I can tell you.
I can spot it really well.
His coordination is...
Jason listens a lot, so he probably could spot better than most people.
whole basketball thing that we have lined up
just, I just literally took my bed
off the table.
Did you see the height?
Yeah, you realize there's a height difference.
I mean, that that.
There's probably a speed difference too.
Oh, now he's talking.
Now we're the trash talking.
Yeah, I mean, I'm not, literally.
It's fine.
Place your bets.
What was your bet?
Jason?
I wouldn't mess with him.
He's going to CrossFit now.
Ben, run to Walmart real quick and pick us up a basketball goal.
You set it up in the parking lot.
When it shows over, we're going to have a one-on-one.
I can't.
We can just go out to the gym one night, one day.
There's a gym right here.
Where?
Yeah, there is.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, in the corner.
It goes down.
Yeah.
Yeah.
We can go in there as soon as this show's over.
And I think Haley would be both of y'all.
Two on one.
I would be more worried about Haley being me than Jason.
For sure.
Jesus.
Jason, I wouldn't take this.
He has no choice.
Technically, he just runs the same team.
They're in the same shirt.
PJ just doesn't look in the mirror.
All right.
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Let's go.
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Spot on, spot off.
It goes like this.
Spot on means you agree.
I'm spot on.
Are you joking me?
He's lost his mind.
Oh, and by the way, no one ever seems to agree.
And then spot off means you disagree.
Spot off.
Here we fucking go.
This is the dumbest thing I've ever heard.
But if you're T.J.
Um, uh,
Uh, there's only one correct answer.
I don't know.
It's time for spot on, spot off.
Chase Elliott's block on Corey LaJoy in turn two on the final lap of the cup race at Atlanta.
What do you guys think about it?
Go ahead, TJ. You're the blocking cake. Spot on, spot off.
Spot on, man. You do what it takes to win the damn race. I don't, and I mean, spot on. I would have made the same damn move.
I don't, it's for the win. And I don't, it's not like he turned the guy.
was trying to get out there the best he could and then if he if corey made it stick he's
gonna have a damn good shot of winning the race but you do what it takes to win without just driving
through a guy which i don't think the block it wasn't as it was a block it was a block but it wasn't
like uh i hate that corey wrecked afterwards but i think the only reason corey wrecked is corey
tried to make it stick anyway and i would it too at that point cori did what he had to do
because if he did make it stick he might win the damn race so spot on got to do what it takes to win
I'm spot off for a Corey wrecking.
And I mean, the thing is super impressive run for the seven car.
This guy goes up there, has the lead, loses the lead to Chase Elliott, takes the lead back.
I mean, they are literally fighting it out at what looked like 180 miles an hour at Atlanta Motor Speedway.
Super impressed by what he and T.J. Bell were doing together because obviously you're utilizing your spotter in that scenario and that situation.
but if you're Corey LaJoy, you cannot wreck on the last lap.
You have to either wreck Chase Elliott or you have to not wreck yourself and you have to get a good finish because how many times is Spire Motorsports going to be in position to win a race?
Obviously they've won with Justin Haley, right?
They've got one win under their belt.
I mean, but it's not, it was a rain to lay deal.
It's not like he went up there and battled to win it, right?
But here's Corey LaJoy in a position to get himself.
and his team a win
and I am just spot off
for the fact that he wrecked.
You cannot wreck in that situation
because the stat sheet is going to show you finished 20th
and nobody's going to really remember that.
It comes down to look, Chase Ellie's block,
he did what he's supposed to do.
One 1,000 percent.
Corey would have done the same thing.
I hate to see that Corey wrecked.
Yeah, I mean, you could see early in the race.
I thought that the seven was really good.
Like when guys got lined up in that middle lane
like we've seen a lot of times the seven could pull down and drive by three or four rows of guys in a corner.
Obviously, you'd come back kind of accordion style.
Most cars did that to you.
Well, everybody did it to me.
But yeah, so you can tell early, but it just sucks for Corey.
But I liked what both guys said after the race is over.
You know, Chase said, Chase is like, listen, I'm not going to sit on the bottom.
We'll let the guy drive around me.
He's like, that's not my job.
He's like, I'm not going to pick which lane I want to lose in.
He's like, I'm going to throw a block and hope that guy don't wreck.
That's what he did.
And unfortunately, Corey Ricked.
Corey on the flip side's like, hey, I'm going for it.
You know, this is it.
You know, now maybe going for it might have been just try to shove, you know, chase up the hill and get him out of line.
Kind of like, you know, he kind of door slammed Martin on that restart and kind of move Martin up to get the lead off of two.
But, you know, it is what it is.
I don't fault either one of them by any means, you know.
And Corey will learn from that.
He's in a better position now next time going forward.
I think the biggest mistake Corey made in this whole process,
was coming or taking the two to go.
It's kind of the cardinal sin of plate racing.
He let the nine that was outside.
He didn't protect his right rear quarter down the front stretch
and let the nine back to the outside of him.
And that put the nine in control of what happened on the last lap.
If you make that block and you hold the top,
now you're kind of in control of what's going to happen here.
And now it's your decided, are you throwing this block to block the nine and whatever?
But you kind of took the control of the race and gave it to the nine in that situation
by not blocking the top, which we've seen all weekend there was just pivotal in.
And you have to protect that right rear quarter.
And unfortunately, coming to, or just after they took two to go coming out of front, Corey let them back to the top.
It's also, it's a plate race, but it's also that place is a place you can throw a block and get away with it like that.
Like you can't get away.
You would never get away with that block at Talladega.
Like Corey would have got around it.
I really enjoyed spotting that race because at a plate track, Haley, we've got our binoculars up.
Literally 95% of the lap.
and there, I think I put my binoculars up five times all day.
I mean, it was literally the naked eye because, and the thing was, it's like they were going
slow, you know what I mean, from where our angle was and how high.
I know bubble was going slow, Freddie, but like, it's just like everybody was not, like,
wide open.
At the end of the races, we got more cloud cover in shade and turn one and two, you could tell
they were ripping wide open.
When the one got out front.
It was a fun race to spot because I didn't have my binoculars up the whole time.
Like, I got to enjoy the race even though I was spotting it.
And I talked as much yesterday as I probably ever talked to my wife.
I had to change the battery.
Yeah, same.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And we, look, I'm getting really good at getting my people through wrecks, man.
Like, I'm getting good at it.
Every wreck yesterday was in the front.
Like, there wasn't a wreck where you were like, oh, spin by you.
Not everyone.
I saw a couple back there by me.
Yeah.
It was like, spin in front of you.
Good luck.
Yeah.
So the wreck that caught me off guard really quick was Denny's into three there.
I'm looking in front because we're 18th, 20th in that area.
We're going to follow Denny back up through a little bit.
and we're going on the backstress, and I'm like, I look back and there's smoke right in front of us.
I'm like, oh, Jesus.
It was not ideas.
That's always fun.
Yeah.
Okay.
Next one.
Spot on, spot off.
Roshesteem makes contact interns Denny Hamlin in turn four while battling inside the top five with 14
laps to go.
And Denny says, as a driver, you make decisions.
Eventually you have to pay for those decisions you make.
Freddie, spot on, spot off.
Well, Danny's perfect.
Denny's great.
Denny's perfect.
This is another stop.
on the Ross Chastain, don't give a to her.
And I think we've seen this twice yesterday.
Twice yesterday, numerous times through the week.
The one thing I'm happy for, we didn't get a bullshould apology out of them this week of
I'm really sorry.
It's kind of, you know, I don't.
It's just, I mean, it seems like it's every week.
And we say eventually somebody's going to give it back to him and they don't.
He comes out smelling like a rose again, finish a second.
But this one here, I mean, in my opinion, I'm not a race car driver, but I've watched a lot of
races in my time was pretty easily avoidable.
You know, his, his excuse after the race was, you know, I just overestimated how much grip
I had.
Well, you've also got a gas pedal.
Like, if you see, you're going to, you've already drove in the middle of three and four
and you're kind of creeping up the hill.
You're losing grip, obviously.
The car's getting tight.
You're losing the nose.
You could lift or at least get out of it and try to stay off the guy.
But instead, you just kind of stay in there and turn the guy in front of the whole field.
That's way less exciting.
Just see you know.
I mean, it is what it is.
and it just seems like week in and week out,
this guy's doing everything he can
and I heard his chances for winning a championship.
I mean, I'm spot on.
I mean, not that it...
Spot on to reckon Denny or?
No, just in general,
because this just adds to the...
adds to it, man.
I mean, we saw Gateway.
Denny was one lap away from getting Ross parked,
which would have been...
That would have been, I will say,
that would have been awesome if he accomplished that.
But, um, I mean,
It's exciting.
It's, you know, I've been involved in plenty of scenarios with my, with drivers in the past.
We were usually in this position.
And it's a lot of fun to watch when it's someone else.
So I'm spot on for the rivalry that's kind of brewing right here.
And, uh, so are you spot on for him wrecking Truex earlier in the race too?
Um, I mean, I'm spot on for the aggressive driving, creating these type of moments that give us something to talk about.
I thought you hate wrecking race cars.
Martin came back and almost won the race.
You say all the time I hate seeing
Martin didn't wreck.
Martin came back and almost left.
He could have.
But he did.
He could have flipped.
Yeah, you could also get a flat tire in this parking lot, but you won't.
I better not get a flat tire.
Your battery could die in this park in a lot.
You'd be getting a ride home with that battery.
You better hope so.
I am spot off for this.
And this is going to be a little bit of a rant.
And I apologize for that.
But Ross Chastain wrecked Denny Hamlin.
Ross Chastain after he wrecked any Hamlin, he hit Denny Hamlin.
Ross Chastain after he hit any hamlin, he had to slow down.
And after all this was said and done, NASCAR, under caution, put Ross Chastain all the way back up in the same position he was running in before he wrecked any hamlin.
So he caused the wreck.
He was in the wreck.
He slowed down as a result of the wreck.
He did not maintain, quote, race speed.
And then NASCAR let him drive by four or five guys that were not in the wreck and put him back in front of him.
One of those was your car.
Because it's a discretionary call on their part.
And I just don't understand for the life of me how you have all this technology and all these replays and all these things in place.
SMT data, you got it all.
And you literally let this guy cause the wreck, be in the wreck, slow down for the wreck, and then put him back as an original running order.
That's what I do not understand for the life of me.
So I'm spot off for that part of it.
the wreck itself, it's time for Denny to shut up and do something about it.
He has been talking about it, and I know what he may be waiting on, which is if I were him,
it would be a smart play.
The playoff.
It wouldn't be right now.
But now the scoreboard is two to Ross Chastain and zero to Danny Hamlet.
So I know what Carl Edwards did to Brad Keselowski.
And I thought that wreck, what Brett Kuzlowski and Carl Edwards back in the day, was
racing. I didn't think it was a wreck that warranted Carl wrecking Brad on purpose.
But now we're in a position where Denny is, it's Denny's turn. What are you going to do?
But you think it's Denny's turn, but it might not be. We thought it was Danny's turn after
the last one. You know, I just, like Ross, in my opinion, is maybe, arguably the most consistent
fast car. Like, and you look up front every week, he's there. You know what I mean? And easily on speed,
he would be easily one of my final four picks.
But I would not bet a single dollar on that
because we're not allowed for one.
But two, like, you just got to assume
that nobody's going to let this happen right now.
There's a line of people that would like direct cross-dastain.
Like, you cannot, you could not pick him to be the final four
because of just how many enemies he's made
just over the last two months.
But if everybody's so mad at Ross Crash Dane,
then why is it somebody swinging at him after the race?
Well, because NASCAR security was lined up or all around him yesterday.
Did you see that picture?
Those pictures were awesome.
Those pictures were truly awesome.
I didn't see any of them.
There were a lot of people there?
No, it was literally NASCAR security, had them circle.
Yeah.
Legitimately.
Guys got his own security team now.
Hey, I gave it to him, man.
He's going to need it.
It gives us something to talk about, so I'm here for it.
Is there any chance NASCAR steps in and says,
Denny, you shouldn't wreck him back, or if you do in the playoffs,
will penalize you?
No, NASCAR or any, they are.
already showed that they don't have that kind of authority because they threatened Danny at Gateway
and then just let what was going on continue all race long because the first time Danny,
you know, the first time Ross passed Danny obviously Danny swirmed out and slowed him down.
And they're like, okay, Danny, you made your point.
As we're catching him again, NASCAR's like, okay, 11, you've made your point.
And then Danny continued to mess with him the rest of the race.
And NASCAR didn't do anything to them.
Maybe they spoke to him afterwards.
But there wasn't no penalties then.
So you've already shown that you're really not in position of doing.
anything. I mean, now if, now, if Denny goes and intentionally wrecks them, something like what
Noah did and it ends up causing a big scene, maybe they've seen now, you can, they're going to
penalize them and, and, but I don't think that there's any retribution.
I think he's too smart for that. I don't see this looking intentional. I see it looking like,
oh, well, I overestimated my grip level too. Yeah. So does you see what Denny was doing to him,
like middle part of that race? He, he was like right on his left rear and turn one and two. Like I saw
that a couple of times. And I, there's,
I couldn't quit watching it because it was so close that you're like he might hook him to the bottom right here.
Like it was close looking.
But did you know like what we're talking about when they wrecked the gateway?
Ross was one lap away from not making minimum and getting parked for, you know, so that would have been a home run had that had happened.
I was watching that.
I was like, I'm glad we're not racing anybody because I'm watching this show right here.
I honestly would never even thought of that.
Like, man, this guy screwed me.
I'm going to get a part.
Well, you're just like Freddie at Charlotte.
Okay, well, we're going to stay on the topic of Rosh Chastain.
Contact between Martin Turex and Chastain and turn two triggers a big wreck.
Austin Dillon gets collected and says,
just looks like we're another casualty of Rosh Chastain again.
T.J, you just said that no cars were wrecked when he hit Martin.
No, I said Martin didn't wreck.
Oh.
No, I saw Austin.
You were okay with that wreck.
No, Austin hit hard.
And, I mean, did you see him hit?
I saw the picture of the softball.
Oh, my gosh, man.
I saw the three hit the wall and I was like, oh, that had to hurt.
So, yeah, spot off for that, you know,
cars getting wrecking, that guy wrecking hard.
Definitely another casualty of that style of racing
and that seems to be a repeat offender.
Yeah, I thought this was,
it's still 100% Ross's fault, still 100% unnecessary.
It was less egregious than what he did to Denny.
this was just an overly aggressive push in the turn one in the middle of a coin entry to middle
he never got off of them until they were wrecking um so it's it's it's unnecessary at lap 92 of 260
whatever it was you know it's it's just i mean it wasn't i didn't think this was dirty i just thought
it was unnecessary and then pretty stupid on ross's part chris rice had just told me that you can't wreck these
cars i mean lily he had just got it out of his mouth you cannot wreck these cars because in the stage one
we were running about 12th,
and we were kind of the last car-ish in that front group,
and I said, look, man, we're not going to get a stage point.
We're not going to pass two to three cars in a lap.
Get out of here in case they wreck,
and Chris Rice is like, they can't wreck these cars.
Well, holy hell, did we wreck cars after that?
I mean, Ross Chastain wrecked twice after that.
But, no, I mean, look, it's, if you were in person at that race,
I thought it was a great race to watch.
I don't know how TV did with broadcast.
I'm sure they did a great job.
But Ross has got to stop wrecking people.
I mean, how many is this?
Yeah, I mean, I think you see, I watched the highlight of the Denny wreck and Burton was kind of critical,
which Burton would be one of the guys that is like, listen, you can't just keep doing this every week.
Like, what is your end game here?
Sure, you can.
I mean, you can, but you just added another five or six guys to the list.
You know, there's six or seven cars in that wreck.
You know, there's five more guys that are on the list of guys that are like, you know,
you turn the 19, but now in return of that, you've pissed a three off because he's the only one that really got wrecked in the deal.
so now the three's mad at them
you know it's just you just can't keep adding guys
to the list of people that are pissed off at you
what happened with the 10
I've seen the 10 was pissed off at them
I've seen there there was a good quote there
from they said it was a driver
but I think it might have been the spotter
that I can't really
What was the food line thing?
Okay I missed the food line context
I don't know something my TJ knows
so it's an actual
we have a lot of food lines around here
food lions for you
those of you that are not in the south
It's a grocery store chain.
Yeah.
We have a lot of food lines.
I mean, great.
You just made me type in food lines.
But somebody said something about them meeting at a food line.
So I just was curious what I was.
Maybe they go to the same food line.
Maybe they've seen each other there for.
They're going to watermelon shop.
I am going to.
I mean, Mike Harmon want to go to Applebee's.
And now we're going to food lines.
I think Applebee's is much better choice.
Food line?
Yeah.
Applebee's on a date night.
I think it's on NBC.
NBC definitely made it.
If we don't know what food line context was, I apologize.
I just saw somebody.
asking for it last night.
I saw Joel ask if there was a food line
next to Big Al's.
So I don't know.
I still don't know what it was about.
I thought he was just joking
because there is a food line
right next door to Big Al's.
Well, if I want one guy mad at me,
as Martin Truex.
Okay.
Because he was mad at Lugano
and I still don't think he's paid him back.
No.
It's NASCAR and Fox.
One second.
Hang on.
I'm gonna,
when you hear it, Brett,
you're gonna,
you're gonna know already
what the,
who it is.
Do you need the quote?
No,
you can hear that.
If anyone get mad
the DVC guys just mean at Bojangles.
That's where they hang out.
Bojangles, that's funny.
That voice sounded familiar.
Wow.
We're going to fight in a shopping cart.
I've seen a lot of watermelon busted memes this week.
I must say, old Gallagher.
Gallagher was making the rounds on the gift circuit.
I see Ross using a lot of DoorDash here soon.
Wow.
I mean, I just don't know.
I don't get it.
I don't know.
Maybe Ross can explain it.
but I mean, you can't just piss off the half the series
and expect to contend for a championship.
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So Michael Waltrip's tweet about adding banking to tracks
to make more plate races.
What do you think about that?
So Michael Walter tweeted 10 years ago,
I suggested to NASCAR we add banking
to the California Speedway
and make it a plate race,
a Piston Cup heads west.
I was told by an important guy
that's a dumb idea.
Watching Atlanta makes me ask,
who's dumb now?
Great job, Marcus Smith.
Brett, spot on, spot off.
I'm spot on.
I mean, look, I think, you know,
drivers and spotters
and content people, Jason,
we all have great ideas
and some of them just aren't ever going to come to life.
I personally think,
Fontana was a crappy track.
when it was built.
Like it did not put on good racing.
It was 3,000 miles from home.
Like, it was all,
it was in the middle of a steel factory.
It wasn't pretty in that area yet.
Like all the reasons why we went out there,
we all were like,
and then they took Darlington,
one of our prestigious races,
the Southern 500 away,
and gave it to that track.
So none of us like Fontana at the time.
Now, Fontana in today's world
is one of the best racetracks we go to.
That area is awesome.
Like it's a lot better.
Fontuckey,
But I mean, look, you know, Michael was kind of onto something.
He wanted to make it exciting because 10, 15 years ago, it wasn't exciting.
I just wish we knew who the executive was because 10 years ago, the big dog was Mike Helton.
And I know Mike Elton didn't say it was a dumb idea.
But there were some other big dogs around him.
I'm just curious which one said it was a dumb idea.
But looking at Atlanta Motor Speedway, I miss old Atlanta because it was a driver's racetrack.
Now, when you look at the fact, no disrespect to Corey LaJoy,
But when you look at the fact that he can be up in the front, contending to win the race,
it tells you that we're wide open and that handling isn't that important.
And you've got more parity in the field, right?
Which NASCAR likes that idea.
But look, if I were up a ticket holder yesterday and I asked the question before race,
how much were tickets today?
And the majority of people said $109 is what they paid.
if I paid $109 to sit on a metal bleacher in 95 degree heat to watch that race,
I actually had a good time.
I don't know if I would have agreed with you there.
I don't know if I would have had a good time watching that.
And maybe it's just because of the fact that I got to watch most of it
because I was a half straightaway behind everybody.
One time Freddie came.
Freddy was standing beside me, TJ, and they raised the hood.
And I was like, Freddy, what are you doing?
He said, we just pitted for four tires and four shocks.
We made some pretty big swings at her.
day. But listen, and I was wondering about
Fontana because I didn't, I'm like, the last
seven or eight years I've been around Fontana is like my favorite
race tracks. I'm glad they didn't do that. I'm sure I didn't know
it was terrible back in the day. And I'm with you. I'm more
kind of a racing purist where Atlanta was one of my favorite tracks. We
harp on here all the time about tire wear and strategy of the race.
And Atlanta was one of the biggest tracks for that because the tires
wore out. But unfortunately, the surface needed to be redone. And I'm
hoping that as we trend back, you know, just as this place
weather's a little bit, we try.
trend back towards that a little bit and the tires start wearing again and we have more of a
traditional mile and a half race. My biggest issue with yesterday's race is just it's so dependent on track
position. We saw it Saturday. We saw it Sunday. If you're, you know, at some point in the run,
everybody's going to get single file. And if you're from, I mean, you were stuck in fourth on
Saturday. I was stuck in seventh. Couldn't do anything. If you pulled out of line, you were going to
the back of that line, however long it was. So it's unfortunate. We see that at Daytona. We see it
tell they,
obviously,
when they feel like
they want to single out
and ride around a little bit.
But we just can't,
we definitely can't add
more racetracks to where we just
all get single file and
ride around and you have to sit and,
you have to stay in line
because the penalty is,
if you get out of line,
you're going to the back
of whatever line that was.
Luckily for us,
we tried to make some stuff
happen on the last lap there
and there was only seven or eight cars
on our pack,
so that's where we finished,
seventh and eighth,
or sixth and eighth,
wherever Brett was.
But you just,
you just literally,
if you're behind 10th or something,
you're just locked into where you're at
and you can't go anywhere
and there's not a move to be made, really.
I am spot on for the Atlanta.
If that place wears a little bit, it could be a homestead.
You know, to me it could be a homestead.
And we like those type of racetracks.
Just for reference, last year at Atlanta,
Corey LaJoy finished 29th,
six laps down.
That's about where he finished yesterday.
So, but, you know.
He was on a lead lap.
That's just a difference now.
I mean, it's definitely, it's turning into a wildcard race.
If you're a spotter, right, spotting a road course is the easiest thing to ever exist.
You have one corner.
You do very little.
Even at Sonoma where you can see 90% of the racetrack, you still aren't like spotting your butt off.
Like yesterday, spotting our butt.
I mean, we now have six, well, Freddie, I'm sorry, you weren't spotting your butt off.
We now have six plate races, essentially on schedule.
We're going to see how Michigan is.
Yeah, see how Michigan is.
Yeah.
But Michigan's been narrow.
You know what I mean?
But we're slowing down.
We're slowing down.
When I run 208 miles an hour getting to turn one anymore.
I still don't think you're going to use the racetrack above where they've been running much.
It's so gray up there and I don't think we use it.
I think Michigan is going to look a lot like the Michigan truck races do, which are, I feel like very similar to plate races where you're utilizing the draft a lot more.
Massive runs.
Do you think the worst track now is for racing one?
New Hampshire.
No.
Well, it might be.
We don't know yet.
Like from what we've run, a mile and a half track, what's the worst track?
Mile and a half.
Texas.
Exactly.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
That, you know, they, it used to be really good, but there's like three miles of racetrack that we don't touch there now.
That reconfigure was, was doomed.
Do you remember the first one we first went out there?
Like, the first time we were out there and we all wrecked.
It was a Murray.
It was the first car.
And then he was the next one.
We all just went to corner and all wrecked.
They were all.
McMurray went to turn off into one.
He was in like the eighth.
lane. Like he like it was where you go when you have a flat tire right now. Like it wasn't even
close to where you should be. It was they all missed it. I just remember like the first practice like
everybody just hung a left at the start finish line and like rode the grass line in the turn one because
you couldn't get it. Because it was like a wheel on ice. Yeah it was like I mean Murray went in there
and tried to arc it. Oh, Texas I'm going to arc this corner. Oh no you're not. Yeah. I want to
bet. Yeah. Watching on TV I think last year I would have not watched the Atlanta race 90% watching the
TV. I watched most of that race on TV. So I think if you're trying to capture attention from a
demographic to watch their race, that's the race.
But I'm talking about even like at the end, like the last 30 laps you ran around there
single file. You're just glued to that? Well, yeah, compared to if it was like Kurt Busch
with a five second lead, I'm not, I'm not going to watch that. I was going to watch this,
knowing that something could happen. Their wreck could happen. It did. It happened. Yeah.
I mean, and look, the drivers control it being single file. You know, they watched all those wrecks play out.
And then they realize, okay, there's 30 laps to go. I put myself in jeopardy to wreck if I race like
crazy or I have to be patient until it's time to go.
And then that's what they do.
It had a play race ending feel.
Like you could feel it like the end of Xfini race.
You could feel it building up like who's going to take the run and when are they going to do it.
You don't have that at a other mile and a half.
And you still have Kurt Busch back there trying to make something happen every now and
then, you know, because he was the guy that was 17th, 18th.
But I mean, I'm a, if I'm a race fan and I watch that in person, I think that's a good race for Atlanta.
I think so.
Definitely packed up.
I mean,
did you watch race at all?
Yeah.
And I truly think,
Haley,
like NASCAR last year
with a rules package
they were trying to go to,
I think they were trying to get us
where we raced like that
at all the mile and a halfs.
I think they wanted Vegas to look like that.
They wanted Atlanta, Texas,
all those places to look like that,
but that rules package
was an epic fail and it did not.
This rules package,
this car, this tire,
it's what they wanted
with the last year's package.
with the whole high down force, high drag, low horsepower,
and we scream on here.
We want more horsepower as racers.
But the TV broadcast yesterday was exactly what the NASCAR brass committee wanted.
I missed the side draft.
There's not much side draft anymore.
Like not as much.
And one thing that does counteract that is you can run closer in the corner.
Like you can run go a lane higher in the way.
the wake's not as big as the old car.
But did you like to race?
It looked like, too, that if you ran almost too close to the wall,
that there was more drag there.
A penalty.
In these car.
Like, you couldn't get right up against the fence and get some of those massive runs.
Like, we've seen Dale Jr. get at the old Daytona, right?
Because he would literally be painting the fence.
And off of two, here come, Del Jr.
Well, way more momentum.
It almost looked like if you got this particular car too close to the wall,
it slowed you down some.
Yeah, it's almost turned into like watching a Daytona.
That's what I feel like you're watching kind of the last 30 laps of Daytona.
You kind of know something's brewing up to happen, a wreck, a big wreck.
But I don't know, I didn't get a really race at Atlanta.
It's a race that I got hit by the 91, like lap eight caught on fire.
So it wasn't a great deal for me.
But I wish I would have been able to get more laps there to actually experience racing it.
But just from watching it, looking back at the truck series race there,
I think like the guy in 17th had like the whole body was ripped off of it like every panel.
Like it just.
The Ross run that race?
Like it just, there was so many wreck trucks that race because you get, they're not
Cubs guys racing.
They're guys in the truck series.
So it's a lot, you're not as intelligent when you're kind of at that level.
So I feel like there's a lot more opportunity for people to make decisions and they were
just taking every opportunity and you saw kind of how it ended.
But when you get in the Cubs series, you have a little more, a little more,
a little more brain on your side and experience,
you just kind of sit back and stay in line
until really that one person decides something happens.
Yesterday on the straightaways,
they could literally be running 10 to 15 miles an hour faster
and just nail you from behind.
Did you see how hard True X?
It just knocked you out there.
Did you see how hard True X hit Corey
at the end of the backstretch near the end there?
I didn't see that particular one,
but I'm telling you all day long,
I was like, if you hit each other on the backstretch,
it's fine.
You can hit each other as hard as you want to hit each other.
Yeah. You know what?
I couldn't do anybody.
No, he couldn't for sure.
But like Chris Rice made that comment they can't wreck.
Dude, you saw a guy as wrecking by themselves again, you know, like the 48, I think.
Christopher Bell right by himself off the four.
Yeah.
So you got plenty of couple guys off of turn two still lost it by themselves.
Briscoe lost it off too by, you know, just alone.
So these guys have their hands full in there at times too.
So, yeah.
For sure.
So we're going to hop on to the pit crew side of it.
Joe Gibbs Racing Swaps two members on Bobo Wallace.
his pit crew with two members on Christopher Bell's pit crew.
So then Dave Moody tweeted after that,
if I'm Christopher Bell, I'm not feeling like a higher priority right now.
Hashtag no pit crew love.
Denny quote tweeted that and said,
What makes you say that, Dave?
Especially without knowledge of why changes were made.
Chemistry speed, leadership experience is what makes up a successful pit crew.
Some teams have two or three of those, but not all.
Perhaps by mixing a few from one to another, it helps get all four.
Freddie, spot on, spot off.
I mean, spot off for Moody's kind of.
comments. I mean, what a, it's kind of caused a bit of a show last week. Um, but I mean,
especially somebody like Moody who should understand the situation a lot better. I mean,
this is no different than changing your line, starting lineup in a baseball team or changing
the lines of your hockey team. Like, listen, we didn't swap. They didn't take the entire 23 pick
crew and the entire 20 pick crew and just swap them. Um, they took the front changers off our car,
swapped them with the front changer on the 20. The 20 got a new rear changer that wasn't even on
either one of the teams going before last week.
I think he had been subbing.
And it's just a move to see if certain guys work better with other guys
because obviously it's been no secret to 23s had its struggles.
But by no means, you know, the 20 has quietly had a lot of issues of their own.
I mean, there's been a lot of loose wheels.
They've, I've seen them come back to the pits three or four times with loose wheels.
Wasn't that quite this weekend?
Yeah.
I mean, they had, you know, they had another issue again this week.
But it's, I don't understand where you're coming from saying, you know, I saw a lot of people
last week. Just all what Joe Gibbs is just trying to screw over Christopher Bell right here. And it's like,
no, I don't understand that. If you said that we're taking the entire 23 team that struggled
and swapping it with this great 20 pick crew, yes, then I would say, yeah, that's not right for Bell.
But all they did was move some pieces around and try to improve both teams. Yeah, I don't, I'm, I'm,
spot off for the comments. If those guys are, if you're swapping two teams that are just
average right now, just trying to find something better, what's,
That's the point of trying to get better, right?
You can't stay the same.
Everybody does this.
Penske had a big shake up earlier this year.
I think they swapped a two and the 12 teams.
You know, this kind of happens everywhere we go.
It's just bigger news this week because everybody wants to jump on it.
Yeah, it happens every year at time at some point.
I think the big thing is here, it's Joe Gibbs Racing and 2311 racing.
It's not the same team.
It is obviously the pit crews are supplied by the same source, which is Joe Gibbs Racing.
But for Joe Gibbs Racing to make the change and for people to think,
think they're doing the change to make a Joe Gibbs racing team worse. It's fucking stupid.
Like, how can you honestly be a member in this industry and think that Joe Gibbs Racing just
did something that would be detrimental to his own team? That is a pretty ignorant,
a fucking statement if I have to say so myself. Because if I'm going to manage Brett Griffin Racing,
Brett Griffin Racing is going to be the most important thing that I care about every single day.
even if I partnered with T.J. Majors Racing,
I'm not going to care about T.J. Majors Racing as much as I do,
Brett Griffin Racing.
So for you as an industry person to think that Joe Gibbs Racing is screwing his own team up,
there's an award for that.
There's an award for that.
What an idiot.
You saw this, I mean, then they had problems.
They had a wheel get away last week and now Adam's, well, I guess Adam's not already suspended.
It's like a, maybe it's a committee thing.
The committee has to decide if he's suspended because he lost it on pit road, not the racetrack.
Oh, boy.
But, you know, I don't think going back, I'm pretty sure that that was the new rear changer
that had that incident on the left rear.
So it wasn't anybody from the 23 teams.
I'm sure that was getting ready to blow up.
I haven't looked, but I'm just going to show you this picture right here.
I got a picture where Christopher Bell is not in his pit stall.
He is in Ross Chastain's pit stall.
And his tire is not.
not even in the same pit stall. It's in a different pit stall. So let me tell you something.
That is a loose wheel. I don't know what the committee is going to rule, but that is a loose wheel.
That is not a loose wheel. That is a wheel that is no longer on the race car. It came off and passed to the car.
Yeah. Yeah. So it is not, it's definitely, it's the wheels off. The wheel. The wheels are falling off.
Much like this show every. I, uh, yeah, I don't. That's, uh, yeah, I don't. That's, uh,
definitely the wheel is not attached.
Yeah, and I don't like,
you would assume that's a penalty.
I don't know what,
because the penalty used to be on the racetrack,
right?
Like it was,
it had to be come off on the racetrack
was a penalty.
And then we saw,
obviously see people rolling down pit road
and the wheel comes off.
So now they had a bring in its discretionary penalty.
So probably had one of these already.
What is it?
Well,
I lost,
the only time I've actually lost one was at Coda
on the racetrack.
So that was a four week vacation for that.
That wheel might have traveled further.
No,
that wheel smoked that Porter Potty.
You remember that?
Like, if you remember, imagine somebody was in there.
Gosh, you imagine being in the air.
Pows!
Sounds like a bomb went off.
Oh, damn.
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Engine, engine number nine.
I'll tell you, if they don't hurry up and pick this track, I'm going to run out of
beer and cigarettes.
Okay, so, TJ, look at the fucking date all the time.
I only tell you this fucking data.
Hey, Freddy, just letting you know we got the beige GMC out in the parking lot in case you
want to have Bubba come out and hit us, like you said, everything out on the track.
Hey, now, Jason, got a message for you.
Get out of Dylan's ass.
Reaction Theater.
starts now. First of all, big congrats to Parker Cleggerman. Nobody deserves it more.
Dude works his ass off getting in anything he can and just running the best he can. Huge
congrats to him. But I'm going to give a big adder boy to Zane Smith. Prior to this race,
didn't really have an opinion out of the way. Good driver. He gives me hope that that truck
series is not full of darts with no wings out there. Adda boy, Zane. I hate to burst her bubble.
It's not full, but it's pretty close.
It is one feather away from tipping over.
Yeah.
I mean, I wish they could just put a camera on every corner of Haley's truck.
Well, I saw yesterday that Haley obviously got our second top ten of the series.
I'm like, how many would she have if these idiots would stop wrecking her?
We had, what was the other one that we were just at?
Three races ago.
I had another SRX series in between it.
Nashville.
Nashville, yeah.
We've had one there.
Guts fly.
That wasn't even in the corner.
That was on the front stretch, you know, just straight run into.
Just straight idiots.
And so I talked that kid.
I have another, yes.
So I have another friend who previously racing the K&M West Series.
His name is Ruben Garcia.
And he was over at our house.
He was teammates with my boyfriend.
And so he just came over to hang out.
And apparently that's a consistent thing with that kid.
Even down the Mexico series, he just junks everyone.
And so no one really, everyone just, he gets wrecked like every other race
because of what he's done previously.
So I'm like, oh, okay, it's consistent.
assistant. He fits in this truck series. There's really no credentials. Like, you came up from the K&N series.
You have wins into K&N series. Half these people, I don't even know where they come from.
And they get in these trucks. I mean, you know what I mean? Like, is Jesse Outs. Oh, gosh.
He had a good race. Yeah. Super exciting. But they don't, there's no K&N wins. There's no,
half them don't have Arka starts or anything. And they're just truck racing and crashing for 17th,
legit every week. And that's not, that's not what it used to be. Jason's going to kill me,
Haley, because we're in a middle of reaction theater. Oh, yeah. S-R-X, you brought it up.
Are those cars as tight to drive as they look like? Because they look really tight.
I mean, a little bit. They're not that... I thought it looked loose off.
So you'll get tie and center, a little loose off. They're kind of just a little bit more
skating. Like, they're just kind of like not in the track as much as like a normal stock car would be,
but it makes it fun because you kind of have to just go out there and just do your thing.
you're given what you're given and it's mostly similar to what everyone else is given.
You're allowed to make little changes like me and Tony when I was racing there.
We're making the exact same changes because we kind of had the same feedback.
So our cars were kind of reacting the same ways and it was cool to be able to experience that
and like try little things.
You see, oh, this person didn't make that change.
So you know they're going to be a little bit tighter in the center.
You're only 20.
Do you have to Google who these guys even are?
No, no, I know quite a few of them.
I sat down with Bill.
I bet you know Paul Tracy.
I sat down with Bill Elliott talking to him and he's like, man, like the day we got power steering, I'm like, damn.
It was just crazy talking about like how it was back in like the 70s, 80s and just everything that he experienced and his opinion of what NASCAR is now.
Had you like a million dollar bill.
Had you like Stafford?
It was actually pretty fun.
That's one of my favorite places.
Yeah.
For a short track, I feel like there's so many short tracks that are so similar.
And it's cool when you can actually go to short track where it has some characteristics.
where you can use the apron, kind of go on and off the apron, like halfway, and it helps
you turn, or if you're a little loose off, you can be fully on the apron.
Like, there's cool things that you can do at that track to help your car.
And so that's why I feel like it makes fun to be.
I saw my buddies from the Black Flag podcast were harassing you all day long.
Somehow I ended up in a Snapchat, like a group chat with them from one of my friends
paying.
That's a very dangerous place to be.
I don't know how I did.
And one of them said that they had my number
And he's like, right, this is your number
I'm like, that's my mom's fun number.
I'm like, you probably got that off Google
That's what I'm guessing, buddy.
Kay, like, you didn't get that from one of us.
Brian's going to kill you if you text my mom.
Yeah, I wouldn't recommend it.
Oh, God.
Yeah, that would.
Yeah.
I wouldn't recommend doing that.
Jason.
You know, I'm not even someone who roots against Chase Elliott.
But dear God, NBC, NASCAR.
stop trying to shove him down my damn throat.
The 35 cutaways to the Dawsonville pool room today, insufferable.
Insufferable.
And I get it.
He's NASCAR's most popular driver.
I get it.
The problem is, far too often, NASCAR acts like he is the only driver, and that has to change.
Didn't Chase Elliott say he's never even been to this pool room?
He did go, he shot some with Dale there.
I know he had a.
He's got a bad shot something there.
Yeah.
Because they'd get it.
I mean, they did it when he won the championship,
They did like a tour by there and everything.
Yeah.
Okay.
I think it's cool story.
I heard that they keep showing.
I heard,
yeah,
Rutledge was at the pool room during the race.
Oh,
Jesus.
They did pan to it when I was watching the end of the race.
Like at some point,
it's a lot.
It's a long cup race.
Like I got stuff done on like my Sunday.
And so like I'll step away a little bit.
And like when I came back for the last portion of the race,
they did pan to it.
And it was a little like like a little crickets in the room.
Yeah, I saw Twitter where people were.
Look, I mean, Chase is the modern day Dale Jr.
He's got the biggest fan base.
It's his home state.
It's his home track.
Big win.
He's obviously running well.
He wins the race.
What do you want the narrative to be about?
Yeah, and I don't mind stuff like that.
I remember back in the day when they had the old Dale and Dale show at Daytona,
and they showed poor Martha sitting in the van like ball and nerves.
Wanda just puke all over the place it seemed like watching that race coming to an end.
So I'm good with stuff like that.
Maybe not to the extent that they showed it.
to where people are complaining they showed it too much.
But I'd say it for the end with
If he wins, show it like that.
People are going to complain no matter what you do.
No kidding.
I think it's cool.
They still do that as tradition,
especially since it started, you know,
with his dad back in the day.
Yeah, I mean, I'm...
I think it's cool.
Whatever.
There's only one bad thing about the Dawson Hall,
the Dawsonville pool room.
I heard they don't have beer.
Yeah, they don't.
Nope.
What?
I thought this was a bar.
Was this a, like a Bible school?
I don't know.
Arcade.
Why is Derek Smithley on the
track. Why is this 15 car
racing? Rick Ware, why do you do
this? I hate you all so much. You're moving
chicanes. Literally every week.
We're on a super speedway race. You
for some reason don't just get
out of the way and now you've taken some of the
best cars out. Jesus, TJ's
out. Byron's out.
DJ, you were out? Oh,
we got... I know you got damage.
We got clit. We missed the wreck.
I know you hit me, you jackass.
Did I? When we came down the hill.
We got knocked from behind down.
into you.
I don't,
did we ever hit you?
Yeah,
hit me a little
here.
You guys hit each other a lot.
That's because
we're racing around each other a lot.
Yeah, we were going to miss the wreck
and the 34 gets into the back of 38
and turns of 38 down the track
into us, hooks us.
We go back up the track.
We don't hit the wall and it's just
hoping you don't hit anything.
We ended up right near each other
at the, near the entrance of pit road.
But yeah, that was,
I didn't really see how the wreck started.
I'm not 100% sure this was.
The 15 stopped in the middle of three and four.
No, he didn't stop.
stop. He got, he lost it.
He got just wrecked.
Yeah, he just lost.
He stopped.
I mean, he lost, yeah.
He was wrecking and lost it.
But I mean, what's there between him doing that and Christopher Bell losing it?
Well, I think earlier in a race, he stopped on pit road.
Caused a frantic mess there.
Okay, well, if you want, then that's a different story.
But, like, you can't, I don't get mad.
This guy's upset at Rick Ware racing.
But, I mean, then be upset at, you know, JGR for Chris Rebell wrecking, too.
Because that could have very easily happened at the same point.
So, you know, guys are out there driving.
If they wrecked, they wrecked.
I mean, it could, at least it makes it exciting, right?
Why did the 51 of Cody wear a wreck when the other wrecked?
I hope he had a flat.
Because I saw him, like the 18, it was the 18 that wrecked, right?
The 18 kind of wrecked around Cody and then five seconds later,
Cody just shot up the racetrack.
I'm like, where's he going?
I don't know.
The 18 wrecked, he was, looked like the 51 got loose and gathered it up and was just rolling
around the apron under yellow.
And then all of a sudden when, like, we were going to blend off a two, he was
backwards, like he was spinning back to the ride.
right up and backed into the wall.
That's weird.
I'm hoping.
I'm going to just get in the benefit of doubt and say he blew a tire and didn't do something
stupid.
Yeah, it'd be really weird to go right up the racetrack.
I think Garris Smithley is an awesome dude.
I just hate that some of those guys like Garry Smithley don't ever get a chance to
show whether or not they can compete.
So Garry was going to be my one idiot, but we'll just get into it now.
He drove a good race to that point.
He did.
but here's where I have an issue with it
he went into turn three and lost it
you know he lost it got loose had to check up
the 42 got in the back we all piled in the back of him
because he's checking up and we're all running wide open
and he gets on the radio and just says
well the 42 just dumped us
no yeah no this is at least the second time
that I know of that he's a little too quick to the trigger
you know I did see a replay of the wreck and I actually for
the first time I saw it I was like oh the 42 got into him
but I think he was losing it before the 42
yeah he was losing it way before the 42
and it's just like I know you
try to pass the blame i've seen this firsthand before um maybe just maybe just stay off the button
you know what happens kansas or where was that kansas i really wrecked the hell out of him you did
yeah and imagine that the second time that chase elliot has thrown a bad block in two seasons at
super speedway races and wrecked someone in the outside wall no i did not like who he did it to
the first time but really i mean lejoy was there his spotter should have
have known that he was coming with a run. Do better, Chase Ellie, you fucking golden boy.
I got an award for this guy, too. I mean, Chase knew he was there, too. Just so you know.
Just for the record, he wasn't there. He was still behind him and moved up. I mean, you can't say
this is a bad block when the guy won the race. A big block gets you wrecked. I think he got there.
I think he got outside him a little bit. But he got outside of him because, but Chase just kept
moving up. And listen, and that's not on the spot or either because when they're that close like that,
we're calling outside. Chase was doing what he had to do and was going to do it until he saw the seven go up high enough.
And then as soon as he got him up high enough, what did he do?
Hung a hard left because he was about a half of car length from Ross being down there.
From Ross getting inside of him.
Yes.
So, I mean, that's...
That's two good blocks, in my opinion.
That's not a bad block.
And guess who, what's Brett always say?
What do you do when you win?
Kiss the girl and get the trophy.
That's right.
I don't know.
Haley, when you win, who are you going to kiss?
Actually, I like, never mind.
Oh, okay.
Is there a song for that?
I kissed the curing.
You remember what I did you taste of her cherry chapstick?
Do you guys remember back in the day when we used to be on TV?
We're going to get canceled.
Oh, man.
Didn't you just go to a Katie Perry concert?
I did.
You did?
Vegas.
He's like, hey, he's a Katie Perry huge fan.
Hey, he's like in Vegas.
He's like, hey, we're going to go a concert tonight.
I'm like, all right, who are we going to see?
Because last time it was like Nickelback.
And I forget, usually it's like Blake.
or Gwen maybe.
He's like, we're going to see Katie Perry.
No way.
I'm going to the fucking bar.
I'm not going to see Katie Perry.
Have fun.
She was really good.
Oh, my God.
Did you guys go to the Mali Crew concert in Toronto?
I didn't even know they were here.
It was so awesome.
I love like 80s rock music.
I don't think I was even in town.
It was poison.
Poison, Molly crew, Def Leopard.
Oh, deaf leopard.
Pour some sugar on me.
It was really good.
It was awesome.
Missed it.
You would have kissed a girl and liked it.
Holla.
You guys, as a Harvick fan, I am so happy right now.
I was starting to get a little depressed, feeling like, man, even if there aren't any new winners,
Harvey can't really get in here.
And then Joe Kidd's racing goes out and puts members of bubble losses pick her on Christopher B.
They can't even change a tire.
Do you realize if Harvick merely finishes 15th every week, he's going to make the playoffs?
Because they can't put it on a tire.
that guy's hard
unfortunately for that idiot
it wasn't a member of the 23
crew that had any issues there so
good try
that was a funny clip that was still funny clip
that was so funny he laughing the ass off
yeah that's good
you should make people send you the videos of them
actually like
I can only imagine what some of that looks like
this guy entertains himself
a lot
you can tell you could tell
yeah
man I don't know
but I'm pretty sure Ross Chast
sucked off a leprechaun.
Jesus.
The dude's doing his best
Bob Barker impersonation,
playing Plinko through the entire damn field.
His front ends more fixed up than Whitney Dillings.
He's finding a way to finish in the top five.
Battling for the lead.
What in the hell is going on?
Please give me this guy's fault number.
He said he sucked off a lepracot.
There is three or four settings.
in this one.
Oh my God.
That was funny.
That's the funniest guys ever called here.
I don't know what to say about that one.
Oh, my God.
That's a good one.
Jason, send me the audio clip.
I want to make that a ringtone.
I just want to hear that guy.
Are we allowed to air that?
Oh, yeah.
100%.
Are you?
Oh.
Yeah.
I was offended, so we definitely can air it.
I don't know if you can say.
Yeah.
Yes, you can.
It's a lepricot.
No, that's not what he's talking.
You were laughing too hard.
You missed half of it probably.
Yeah.
Did you hear the rest of it?
I heard I have well.
Oh my God.
The front half of the back of the back.
Jeez, oh man.
That guy.
I wonder if he has even drank anything.
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question of the week. What's the most fun thing about the home you guys grew up in?
Well, I grew up in a lot of homes. I grew up in Pagland. So there's not a lot that,
yeah, exactly. It's the town you don't speed through going to Darlington. It's one of them.
There's two towns. What is it? It's about it. No, no, no, no, no, no. Stop. The two towns you
don't speed through. M-C-B-E-E. How do you say that? McBee. It's not how you say it. It's MacBee.
and California's B.
No, it's McB.
It's McDonald's and McDonald's.
What do you say?
Jamie.
MacMerry.
MacMarrie.
Oh my gosh.
Okay.
So continue.
What is there,
what is awesome about your home in Pageland?
Well,
there's a gigantic gun shed next door.
I mean,
probably my biggest memory of Paisalin is
we were living in a single wide trailer right
there in town and my brother
Oh God
got pulled over by the cops
But you can tell this whole story?
I'm gonna tell real quick
Okay
So I'm in the fourth grade
All right
I'm laying in bed
It's the middle of the night
And I hear something under the trailer
Oh my gosh
And you're like man
What the hell is that noise?
Well a few minutes later
Somebody knocks on the door
I'm glad we got sound effects for this
Okay so here's the front door knock it
So my mom goes to the door
All right I creep around
I can kind of see through the living room
My mom opens the door and it's a cop.
And he goes, hey, Ms. Griffin, how are you?
Good.
All right, we had somebody jump out of a car and they ran this way.
Is any chance you, they came over here, you heard anything or anything like that?
She's like, no, no, I hadn't heard her or seen a thing.
And I'm like, there's something under the trailer.
You know what I'm thinking in my head.
So mom shuts the door and I look at her.
She's like, go to bed.
And I'm like, she knew.
I'm like, oh, my God.
So I go to bed.
So fast forward, five more minutes later, there's a knock.
It's on the back door.
And I'm like, oh, we're under attack.
She opens a door and it's my brother.
And long story short, he had run from the cops, right?
I mean, this is 1983.
So you could kind of do that back then.
They didn't have helicopters in Pagel.
They didn't have German Shepherds to chase in Pagel.
I was one year's old.
They probably didn't even have but one cop in Pagelan.
It just so happened.
He was working.
But no, growing up in Pagel, it was about the memories.
It wasn't about the house.
We had a little porch.
My sister, obviously, in a will.
wheelchair. We had a ramp that was built. And I played a lot of games on bicycles and
skateboards on that ramp. But Paisal was the best place in the world to grow up. And then when
you turn like 15, you're like, I got to get the fuck out of here. So what fast as I do?
Mom took him to the police department the next morning and turned to me in.
Strict, man. You wouldn't have any trouble believing this story if you knew Tony or Tony's
kids, actually. My brother's an angel today. He's literally an angel. He's a, he's literally an angel.
that you got it all out.
He passed a baton.
So I grew up.
I kind of moved around a lot growing up,
but two houses I remember,
we used to have these really big hills
right next to our house.
So me and my brother,
we were young,
I don't know,
eight, nine years old,
something like that.
And we would race big wheels down there.
And I would always let John get ahead of me
and then just wrecked the dog food out of him
right at the bottom.
Like we would go down the hill
and then like hang a hard right into our driveway
and right at that right turn,
I'd square his ass up.
team on him, try to flip him over.
But he did get me back because he, I think I told it on here before, but he, the next time
they didn't tell me, my sisters had one of them like little tykes cars, the red and yellow
ones.
And they're like, if we stick you down in there and push you down the hill, it'll be funny
as hell.
And I was like, all right, good.
So I jump in this thing.
I've never seen it before, nothing.
Get in there.
They shove my fat ass down the hill, which I guess I wasn't fat then.
I was nice cool.
But I go to turn the wheel and I don't have you ever been in a little tights car, but the wheel
doesn't turn.
No.
So now I am hauling ass down this hill,
squeezing a little Tykes car going,
oh my,
I'm literally doing like 30 miles an hour
in a little Tykes car,
smash this curb,
come flying out,
hit a telephone pole.
I've seen a video of a kid doing that.
Yeah, it was great.
My cousin and my brother thought they killed me.
But it was John's idea.
I think you were trying to pay me back
for wrecking them for all those years.
No, that was absolutely probably.
John knew what was going to happen.
Probably my,
at my house,
in New York where I grew up,
we didn't have a very big house.
But we had a really big house.
big backyard.
And it was like every weekend we had football games back there.
We always, me and my friends, we always played football back there and all sorts of
sporting stuff.
I mean, everything.
So that's probably my backyard is where we spent most of the time.
I went, I went and speaking to TJ's growing up.
I went to one of TJ's old stomping grounds last week, Lernerville.
So I just, out of whim, I was like, I'm going to go up.
And I've been telling Chris Windham and Tyler Courtney that I was going to go watch them race,
the All-Star race.
and they had a big show at Lernerville on Wednesday.
So me and Megan jumped in the car.
It was like a six hour drive up there, hung out.
So I'm like, I'm not going to tell him I'm coming.
I'm just going to show up and surprise him.
So I get there and Windham just happens to be walking by me as I park.
So I'm like, oh, cool.
So blow the horn at him.
He looks over.
He looks like he's pissed off.
Doesn't acknowledge my presence.
It keeps digging.
I'm like, what n**?
Like, I came up here to see this guy.
He's not even going to wave or nothing.
Did you just leave?
So I should have.
So I get out of the car and I'm like, hey, he's signing in.
I'm like, well, it's not, you could have waived at least.
He's like, holy cow, what are you guys doing here?
I was like, yeah, yeah, surprise.
He's like, I got a better surprise.
He's like, oh, my truck's been parked by DOT three hours away.
I don't think I'm racing tonight.
And I was like, are you sh** me?
I just drove up here and you don't even have a car.
But I guess they got it all squared away.
The driver didn't have a CDL.
And I guess with that setup they were having because it wasn't a big rig.
It was a duly in a trailer.
But I guess whatever they were doing, they had to have a CDL.
So their truck got parked and they came rolling in.
I don't know what time it was.
Like just before hot last.
and Chris jumped in there and took off
and actually had a career best finish
at the time. He finished fourth.
So it was a good time.
See less practice better.
That's what I told myself.
From now on, no practice.
Don't leave.
I should leave that thing down the road
somewhere for about two hours
and then show up with it.
But it was fun.
It was a good trip.
And I didn't realize that you were hanging around there a lot.
Haley, where you grew up,
y'all had like dirt tracks and motocross tracks.
Yeah, yeah.
My parents, they built their house back in like 2009
in California before like the town that we lived in
really like blew up and like was like a big popular area and so they were there when it was just pretty
much like dirt and land and vineyards and so they got a good like 20 acre piece of land out in
California before that town was huge and we had like motorcross tracks I had an off-red truck
track there was like super cross track there was every track that you could possibly think of at that
property you got something similar now I think you're you're like the opposite direction but I think
your parents live right up the road from me yeah yeah
they're close to you. And so they are now building like pretty much the same thing they had in
California out here. So they pretty much moved their whole life out here. So they're in the works of
tearing down a bunch of trees. And my uncle's actually there who built my tracks, building their
tracks right now. So did you go to more dirt tracks when you were a little out there? Like going to them,
like watching races. Probably probably not. I mean, not really. Like I kind of just hung out at home and was like we
went racing and did our thing like in the off-road truck scene. And that was it. Like I didn't really go to like
any dirt track stuff or I went to Irwindale a little bit because I raced out there in like
bandoleros legend cars um I did some late mall stuff out there but other than that like we we had
everything at our house so like I didn't leave the house I was just there yeah and we had a bunch of
youtube I was the kid at where freddie went at Lernerville sitting by the flag stand what do you learn in
learn how to race on clay um but yeah my dad my dad raced there in the 80s won a championship there
in 85 so I spent many many nights at Lernerville one of uh it's probably one of the
one of the better racetracks in the area.
There's a lot of great dirt tracks in Pennsylvania.
For sure.
What I liked about it was the grandstands are kind of set off the racetracks.
So you don't, no matter really where you, I mean, it got a little dusty when we were there.
But it wasn't like you were getting pell.
You know how like mill.
We go to Millbridge and you're like getting pelted with mud and rocks all race long.
Like the grandstands are set back on because the tracks got no wall really.
I mean, it's got a wall.
But the front tracks are the wall.
The corners and the back stretch don't.
So the racetracks set back a good ways from there.
So you get you and you can still see just as good.
You're just not getting pelted with stuff all race like you did.
It's a really good track.
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What an idiot. Who you got?
What, I mean, I got a list. I don't know. I always have a list. Most of these,
rate weekends now. It's hard to pick one.
We have so many options.
Well, I already mentioned Garrett
for Garrett, just stay off the button until you know
exactly what happened because the 42 did
not dump you.
Cody Ware again, I say, I hope
he had a flat tire and he just didn't like
miss a shift or something and spin himself out.
Jesse Woogie spends out lap two and a half
three again.
Made qualifying. Well, he did. Yeah.
He didn't have anything to do this weekend, I guess, because there's only
38 cars. That
one guy we saw earlier wrecked the dog food out of that guy on that dirt race. I'll know who that guy's
name was. I've seen a bunch of videos. But I think I have to give it going to Mid Ohio. I think
Chandler Smith wins my Woodneed Award this week just for the fact that I believe he spun out four
times before he took leaving between the time he left Pitt Road to the time he got the green flag
and qualifying. I believe he spun out four times. So I got to give it to him just for the fact of
not only did you not learn your lesson the first time or the second or the third and you probably
would have done it again if the lap was a little bit longer maybe but you know at some point you just
got to go okay I got to just slow down and stay on the track much like haley said earlier like even if my
laptop sucks my lap time sucks just get a laugh just get a lap in at this point my what an idiot is
a politician in chicago i assume he's a politician he's an alderman he's an alderman i don't know what an
alderman is but his name's brian hopkins and he went on the record and said that if chicago were
to get a street race that he's very concerned for the people in Chicago that wouldn't understand
that these guys are professional race car drivers and that they can't all go out there in the
streets of Chicago and race like idiots.
He said, I know the people behind it are professionals.
They're not like renegade criminals out there tearing up whacker drive, but it feeds into
that whole culture and adds a level of hypocrisy to our efforts to crack down.
We would be saying, quote, this is what we.
we like let these guys do it because they're professionals but the unprofessional guys
we're going to try it and send them to jail for doing basically the same things so not only is this
guy an idiot but he's calling everybody in the state of the freaking city of chicago an idiot because he
thinks they don't know any better because they're going to watch martin true x come race through
the city and now this guy with a tesla is going to get out there and he's going to do that crazy driving
So this guy gets my
What an idiot.
Does that mean anyone to watch the race
is just going to go
Ross Chatting.
It means yesterday everybody left
the Lanham Motor Speedway
just knocked the hell out of each other
All the way back back on the 75.
I'm going to go out of 77
and hook somebody here in a minute
just because that's what I saw.
This is how stupid and far removed
politicians are from real world.
Oh man.
You know, it's...
Not all of them.
Some of them.
I really want to give
my What an idiot
it to, you know, someone that it would be really obvious.
Give it to him.
No, because I enjoy it.
And I'm not involved in it.
All right.
Yeah, go ahead, Ross.
You can have it.
It's hard not to pick you this week.
Flew down to there with him.
Ross is a good dude.
Love talking to him and stuff.
But you're making really bad luck on yourself down the road.
And you got plenty of speed.
You don't need to be doing this?
You flew down there with Ross?
He's got his own plane?
No, he flew with us.
Oh, or flew with it.
He flew on the plane.
that I was on.
Oh,
okay.
All right.
I'm TJ's own plane.
You know what we could do.
Who did we got,
did you hear about the victory stuff,
the plane that took off and left people?
No.
I didn't hear something about this.
Yeah, so they were all delayed
because of the weather up here.
And Herm,
my teammate was on that plane coming down.
We were taught text back forth,
seeing him he was taking off.
Well,
some of the guys,
a couple of picker guys,
went back to their cars and sat in there
and waited there and came back
and the plane had taken off.
so
yeah they left him because they went and sat in their cars
and didn't you know apparently they didn't stay involved
who would we give the one idiot to there
do you give it to the guys that got off the plane
and went and sat in their car or do you give it to
the people that didn't know who was on the plane
because I guess you're not taking a roll on the way off
yeah well you you're counting heads
but if they're not there and you need
and you're already three hours late
you gotta go yeah you got to go
I mean if you're waiting out whether
are you getting far from the plane
knowing that it could be anytime?
So what do they do?
They come back and get them?
I heard McReynolds was on the wrong plane.
I don't know.
I think there was another plane
that was coming shortly after
and they ended up getting on that one.
But like if you're waiting,
if it's bad weather.
I'm going to tell you this,
we've all been traveling a lot in our lives.
When I check in on that airplane
and they put that highlighter
across my name,
I'm going to sit my ass on an airplane.
What if you're delayed three hours?
I'm not going back to my car.
I'm definitely not going back and removing them.
If I'm going to remove you.
Well,
but if they say,
hey, it could be 30 minutes from now.
How far are you going?
You're going to the terminal at worst.
I'm not going far.
Exactly.
So 30 minutes could turn into five.
Yeah, and if you're not there and they're in a hurry to get down there,
I mean, it's your job to be there.
Yeah.
That's sketch.
You've been involved in a few different plane things.
Haven't you?
I wasn't on the plane to call on fire like you were.
Didn't catch on fire.
It was just smoking.
Your plane did that too?
Where do you think smoke comes from?
we ever heard this saying
where there's smoke there's fire
you need to go back to Lernerville
Listen
I had text messages written
That way if it was going
I was just had shit
Sand on the way to that episode
I feel like you have to have at least
Some of those pre-premated messages
Every time you get on those plates
Yeah
I love you buddy
Thanks for you
Thank you
Thanks Jr
I should have wrecked the dog food out of you
Oh.
That's funny.
Okay.
Now we're going to head into the DVC picks.
For New Hampshire.
Yes.
New Hampshire.
Oh, man.
I'm not a huge hand in that place.
New Hampshire.
Okay.
Lobster.
Freddie.
What's that one word they say to describe everything?
Wicked.
Wicked.
It's wicked.
Wicked.
Big lobster.
Wicked.
Oh, man.
Those people talk funny up there.
They do.
They think the same thing about you, actually.
I'm going to get me a lobster roll.
You ever have a lobster roll?
Like a, like a, what do you mean lobster roll?
It's a lobster roll.
It's like a lobster salad.
It doesn't sound great.
It's mayonnaise based.
Oh, no.
And it's on a hoagy roll.
It doesn't have to be mayonnaise based.
Man, that's like, mm.
It's awesome.
It looks like a hot dog with lobster salad.
Or trucks in New Hampshire with us?
Or trucks in a hot.
No, they're not.
No, thank God.
You're glad.
Thank God.
Yeah.
Terrible.
Okay.
So, Freddie wins DVC picks at Atlanta with Ross Tustane.
Cheater.
Brett leads with six wins
Freddie is second with five
Jason is third with four
TJ is fourth with three
and Casey is in last with two
What the heck Casey?
Casey sucks.
So we're gonna make the picks
for New Hampshire.
T.J. You start off.
I think we should have Haley make Casey's pick
maybe help her out of here.
I'm gonna make Casey's pick.
So I am
looking at this list here
she can pick anyone in the purple.
Okay.
I am going to go out on a limb here
and go with
Kyle Larson
That's a big limb
I need a win man
Playoffs are common
All right Casey goes next
What do you got Haley
These are all the options
Of what I can pick
Just do me in favor
And go with like Balikki or something
Yeah
Goodyware
No strange
Smithley
McLeod
Oh man
Let's go
Kyle Busch.
Oh, damn.
Stole my pick.
Jesus.
Louise.
All right.
I'm going to go with Denny Hammond.
Stole my other pick.
Holy everybody's swing fence.
Eric, I'm old.
Last year's winner.
It's probably a solid big.
Yeah.
I will take...
How many road courses are left?
Two.
Two left.
Well, here was that?
I got to say...
Watkins Glen, Indianapolis are the two road courses left,
as well as Daytona, three wildcard races left.
What about Michigan?
that walk hard. Who knows? T.J. says not.
I mean, it could be.
I will take
Chase Briscoe.
Michigan will definitely be a
more competitive race this time.
Way more. Brett, why do you think New Hampshire's not
going to be a good race? It's flat.
Ooh. I think the
restarts are going to be interesting because
track position is going to be so
important. I truly believe once
we get sorted out, you will not
see any passing. I think
the downshifting thing is
detrimental to this particular racetrack.
I think the wider tire, the grip level, the lower horsepower.
I think, and I hate to say this because we're not even there yet.
But I, it's given me Jeff Burton leading 300 lap vibes.
And he did that.
He let them all 301 laps one time.
Him and Frankie Stoddard.
Frankie was his crew chief.
I'm just really worried that you're not going to be able to pass.
That's what I'm worried about.
I think if we get the practice, it's going to look cool.
I think qualifying is going to be fun.
I think once we drop the green, it's going to be crazy because we got freaking 30-some cars on top each other.
Might be some rain on the track.
But once we get single file, I think we're in trouble.
Well, if you are a fan of passing, the good news is they have real race cars on Saturday.
The modifies will be in town, which is always the best race at the weekend.
I don't care what any of you guys say.
Are you spotting?
I know.
No modified cars.
I got Doug Kobe and Tommy Baldwin's car, which coming off another win, Jimmy Blewett at his home track Wall Stadium for Tommy.
Three drivers of one of that car.
Three drivers and won four races out of, I don't even know how many they've run so far, seven or eight.
So Tommy's on a roll everywhere he goes lately.
He's been winning.
So hopefully we can continue that next week, but there's nothing better than a good old modified race.
Modified race in New Hampshire is top notch.
Oh, it's so fun.
I've actually been a part of winning it one time with Todd Zaggetty, which was, it was awesome.
It's like a, it's like a play.
race.
It is a plate race.
There are many races I would crawl out of L.A.'s
bus to stand on top of the bus to watch.
But if we were in New Hampshire,
the modifies were out there,
I'll stand on top of the bus.
It's a fun race.
I did that race for someone else.
I can't remember who it was one time.
But honestly, it's so hard to,
I'd rather watch that race.
Yeah.
And New Hampshire is a lot like Watkins Glen.
It's a great culture up there around a racetrack.
A lot of campers.
People love to be there.
The weather, if it's not raining,
is usually awesome because it's not 100 million degrees
like it is down here in the south.
I hope I'm wrong.
I hope this is a great race.
The stages probably help this race.
Like there are places I don't like stages.
I mean, we talked about it last week at a road course.
I hate to stop a freaking road course race to end the stage.
But in a place like New Hampshire, it may be a good thing.
You know it would make it a good race?
Tower.
Baby powder.
Baby powder.
If you are a fan of partaking in a bit of a party,
they have a lot called the X lot there.
It's at the top of the hill behind the racetrack.
and it gets rowdy at Friday Saturday.
How do I get there?
Just come out of the tunnel, make a left.
Tunnel, make a left, go top of the hill.
Top of the hill.
Then where do I go?
Just look for the sign to say X lot.
X lot.
So if you make a left out of the tunnel,
do you keep on going straight?
Do you make a left behind the back stretch?
No, you don't make that immediate left.
You kind of go up the hill,
and there'll be signs everywhere.
I can't remember exactly,
but you go left by them showers up to hill,
and then it's up in there somewhere
because I used to walk to it from the modified lot.
I told Derek Neal and I would go shotgun a beer with him.
this weekend because he's from Maine,
which is as close to New Hampshire's,
I guess you can get.
I think I'm going to Vermont on Thursday.
They're racing.
You're going to Vermont to Thunder Road.
Derek and Brad's racing
Thunder Road.
Derek and Tyler are actually racing
at Lee USA Speedway on Friday night.
I think Tyler Redick and Derek,
they're going to race against each other
in a super late model.
Garth Brooks wrote a song about that Thunder Road, didn't he?
I don't know.
Did he?
The Thunder Road.
You're an idiot.
I mean, a complete idiot.
And a Thunder Road.
That should be their,
how is that not their theme song?
Like, the point of race.
Just have one inch.
Just have one guy in there to like converts the L to a D.
Like,
D.
Haley, we love you.
Thank you for coming back to see us.
If would T.J. doesn't contribute anything else to this show,
the rest of his life,
he brought you back.
Yeah, no problem at all.
And you rolled up in a muscle car.
Park beside of his Tesla.
I'm not.
I'm fine.
Well, I mean, well, we got to make fun of Kevin.
Kevin has both, right?
He has a electric Mustang, Kevin Major.
And he only has, like, he has to drive from here to Myrtle Beach to charge and then
you come back here.
So it's kind of counterproductive, I think.
So I guess the Tesla charging stations are everywhere.
They're more and more now.
And I guess the Ford Mustang version, you have to kind of point.
What is it called Mocki or something like that?
Yeah, the Mockies are.
Very similar.
You got to plan your trip around.
Because there's not many charging stations.
Oh, really?
They have, um, there's adapters and stuff.
Yeah, there's, I know they make adapters now.
And then they have, um, like a full system inside the car that finds the charges for you.
So some are like the speed chargers.
Walmart has a lot of them.
It's like, you'll pay 10 bucks and you get to like 80% in like 10 minutes.
And so like, so like, so you got to pay to charge your car.
Well, 10 bucks.
I thought we were saving money.
If you're on the speed charger.
If you're on the speed charger.
Yeah.
I mean, yeah, you charge it for only your power bill at home.
But like, when you buy a Tesla,
you get a thousand free miles of supercharging.
So I haven't even hit that thousand free miles yet.
So I'm still using those miles.
And they're like,
there's one at the Lowe's grocery store here in Moresville.
So when I go to the grocery store,
I just park over there and charge my car all the way up.
But it'll plan your trip to.
The Ford Machis are,
they're pretty cool cars too.
I mean,
I think it's obviously they're going to become more and more.
You're going to see how many,
I mean, you see a lot of Tesla's around now.
You're seeing more and more like the fords
and stuff like that as well.
So there's going to be more and more chargers
that show up. I just like the fact that
we beat Kevin to the beach by three hours because he was
looking for charges for his car. How many miles
is it? Well, we went from Charleston
to Myrtle Beach. I don't even know. I think he said, what's he
said, it's like 2.35, 2.85, something like that.
Yeah, they're cool cars though.
It's under 300. It depends how much A.C. you're using too.
Yeah, it's true. Kevin, he needs a lot
of AC. I'm fat. I turn it wide open.
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