Door Bumper Clear - 260 - New Hampshire: Breaking Your Own News
Episode Date: July 18, 2022A weekend in New England left Brett Griffin, Freddie Kraft and TJ Majors with lots of stories to tell. After two eventful races at New Hampshire Motor Speedway and a busy week of silly season news, th...e crew reacts to everything that went down. First, find out how Brett learned some Boston slang and why payment was required to spot the modifieds.Then the guys dive into Spot On, Spot Off. First, they discuss Martin Truex Jr.’s decision to take two tires during the last pit stop which cost him the win and placed the No. 19 team on the playoff cutoff line. Now given Christopher Bell as the 14th different winner this season, they talk about how many drivers they expect to see win before the playoffs begin.Brad Keselowski and Austin Dillon swerved at each other and made contact under caution on Sunday. T.J. talks about what led Keselowski to retaliate against Dillon and what each of them said in their post-race interviews.Tyler Reddick announced he signed with 23XI Racing for the 2024 season last week. The spotters applaud Reddick for his move but share their displeasure about Richard Childress Racing’s actions. While the timing of the announcement seemed strange, find out why 23XI needed to share the news first. Afterwards, they talk about who could race in the No. 8 car next.Ty Dillon will not return to Petty-GMS Racing after this season and the crew doesn’t find this surprising. Hear about who is the leading candidate to drive the 42 car next year and why they would be the most interesting Cup driver in the field.Next, NASCAR did not penalize Christopher Bell’s team for losing a wheel coming off pit road last week at Atlanta. The guys express their frustration towards NASCAR making a judgment call and why the penalty needs to have stricter guidelines for what is and isn’t a penalty.Finally, producer Jason Schultz reads Joey Logano’s comments on Next Gen crashes. The spotters talk about NASCAR’s confusion between what the drivers say about hits and what their data shows compared to the previous car.In Reaction Theatre, find out why Jesse Iwuji may now see the light, the guys learn about Austin Dillon’s TV show, and Jeb is back with a song. #AskDBC returns in the Offerpad question of the week segment and in What an Idiot, learn about the embarrassing incident at Bowman Gray.Thank you to our presenting sponsor Offerpad and partners Xfinity and RacingUSA.com for making this show possible. Want more DBC? Check out and subscribe to the new DBC YouTube channel! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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Hey, what's up?
Welcome to Doorbubber Clear
presented by Offerpad.
I'm Brett Griffin.
We're back from New Hampshire
with a lot to discuss.
We'll cover Brad Casalski
versus Austin Dill in the point standings
now that we have 14 winners.
Tyler Reddick signing with 2311 racing,
the return of Ask DBC
and much more.
Let's kick it.
Standing the best in the booth,
stumbling the Monday to tell you the truth.
Giving the Finians and breaking the rules
could call to the hollor to bring it to you.
Casey you pretty, Freddie you fat.
DJ you suck.
Breaking so bad.
Jason is facing kind of plate in this racing
If someone don't crash and he's gonna go mad
Looking for Freddy he's killing the bottle
Okay, see he's making messers like a taut
The tweet something stupid then don't even bother
Brett's gonna block you like tj is his spot
I see them online though ff in the chat
Tell Rick where to stay off the track
All of the podcasts are living in fear
This isn't the download, this door bumper clear
Nah don't get it twisted baby
This isn't the download nah
This is door bumper
Clear clear clear
Clear clear
There you go, I like it
Hey everybody I'm Tj
Major, spotter the 6th 8 Exfinity car this week and all weeks.
And, uh, the six cup car.
Yeah.
I mean, we celebrating early over here.
Freddie, yeah.
Freddy's here, but go, how'd you get in the gate?
It took a couple tries.
What were you doing out there?
I mean, I don't even have a good excuse except for the fact that I'm tired.
We went to big owls last night and I had like, I don't know, two beers, three beers.
And then I drove in this morning and I just continued to type my credit card pin number into
the gate code.
I thought you were back in Columbia.
I was waiting for the gate to open and just for some reason it wouldn't open it.
It wasn't having it, was it?
I guess you don't get your own personal codes here.
I can't really talk because I had to look it up three times in the row to remember it.
So.
Hey, Brett.
Hey, Brett.
Hey, Brett Griffin, Spotter Colleg Racing, Daniel Hemrick Saturday.
Jason. Jason. Jason's racing NASCAR now.
Justin, Jason, you may.
Oh, Jason, you may as well have been driving our shit yesterday.
But you know, Justin Haley on Sunday.
Hi.
Hello.
Hey, guys.
Casey Boat here.
Back from everywhere.
Vacation.
Again.
Hey, Jason Schultz, director of content, driver number 31 colleague car, sprint car racers.
You drive the 8 sometimes.
Newest 2311 driver.
I think after talking about basketball last week, MJ listened, he's like, I need a good player on my team.
So he hired me.
Actually, I think they just need to.
to let Denny Hamlin take over their personnel moves
because it seems that he's pretty good at making
personnel moves. Yeah, he's a, yeah, you can say that again.
First of all, I'm Freddie Craft still.
I was going to say, Freddie gets swapped out.
I had two third place finishes this week and one of them stood,
so that was good.
Thanks for that.
Yeah, but yeah, you kind of hit the nail on the head with personnel swaps.
I mean, God, poor Christopher Bell,
has he ever going to get over that terrible pick crew they gave him?
What an idiot.
comment was.
It was actually.
Just wait until
something happens again.
You know, like, you could not look
any dumber right now.
When you question that move
and then they, you know, they swapped
half crews essentially.
And one team goes out wins.
The other one finishes third.
Probably their two best runs of the year.
I mean, you just, that's on a very
difficult pit road.
Let's not act like New Hampshire.
And that 20 team busted off a pit stop there at the end
to get him track position to get up front
and be able to race with Chase for the win.
Do you think the strategy Christopher had made the fact that they weren't confident in their pit crew made a difference?
No.
I think they called.
I don't think they pet the winning strategy, Casey.
Heavy birthday, Haley.
Oh yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
We should have called her.
I heard, uh, it's her birthday?
Today's her birthday.
She was going to start celebrating at midnight.
Midnight.
Well, hopefully she is too drunk by the time the show.
and can say hi.
We were trying to get her to get drunk today with us,
but I guess she's got to get in the sim or something,
she said.
She got to do a sim tomorrow.
I sent her message.
I was like,
tomorrow?
Yeah.
Well, we can get drunk today if you don't got to drive to Sim to tomorrow.
Yeah, I don't think it works like that.
Why not?
She's young.
She's not you.
Young.
She can't overcome hanging out with us in one night's sleep.
Ike used to be,
when I was young,
that was the best time to recover.
Someone sent a gift in.
Would you like it?
No.
Keep it.
Alex is going to bring it over.
It's a very unique,
uh,
neat gift.
A unique gift.
I'm glad it's coming from behind me.
Does it stick to walls?
We got T.J.
Got golf balls.
Sweet.
I've been looking for a set of these.
I wonder what this is.
I have a feeling these are not golf balls.
What are they?
Are they jimmies?
It's definitely in bottles.
Oh, many bottles.
DJ open.
I'm guessing.
I'll let this is from.
Oh, nope,
it's golf balls.
Open that look at the golf balls.
Oh, you might have to look at the golf balls.
Oh, nice.
A custom make golf balls.
Yeah, these are awesome looking balls.
24 dozen golf balls.
I don't think you can say that.
24 dozen, what?
24 dozen golf balls.
Like there's 24.
Wait a minute, what?
So 24 of those boxes.
There's 24.
Wow.
What?
Where are they?
I'm going straight to the, no, I'm not even, you know.
Look how cute these are.
They are.
They're really cool looking.
They look great when they're wet.
This one will look good in the woods.
No, man.
This one will look good in the lake.
We need to. Can we, can we like strategically leave these around the racetracks and have people go on?
Oh, yeah.
BBC scavenger hunt.
Let's see who this is from.
Yes.
I don't guess Lisa Bailey.
Oh, it's addressed to Brett.
He must think you're a golfer.
Brett, thanks again for the hospital.
Oh, fireball.
Oh, that's weird.
Who would guess that?
That's a first.
Brett, thanks for the hospitality in Vegas at Resorts World.
Enjoy the golf balls and the fireball.
ball. How many golf balls are there again?
24 dozen. Some already went missing. I went golfing
this weekend. This is from
Heath.
Maybe Nick. I can't read
that one. Heath, Nick, and Devin, I think it says.
Well, thank you guys.
Appreciate it. Man, we were going to split that up and pour it out.
We are right now. Is that anything good?
I don't have COVID. If I did,
if I did, I dimmed. After the
the comments you made on the stage allowed,
I am not drinking it for you.
I can't help.
That guy asked me an inappropriate question.
No, no, no, no.
You can't back.
You can't get away from this one.
Spicy Jose, who I like a lot.
He does a great job.
That fireball is kind of spicy too.
Castillo?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, he asked me a question, Jason.
He said, what would you put on a Jimmy?
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
That's not what he said.
Yeah, that's not what he said.
He said, jimmies are something that you,
this is something you put on something.
it's called a Jimmy and Brett in front of all these lovely people.
What do you think?
What do you guys think it is?
A sprinkle.
Let me ask you a question.
What do you think Brett said it was?
Not a sprinkle.
What do you think Brett said it was, Casey?
Well, I saw somebody tweet about it.
So what do I mean?
Condom.
Oh boy.
In front of, I mean, and blurts it out like it's the right answer.
Oh, condom.
Condom.
It's a condom.
Was it with those appearances where it's all over the track?
Like, can you hear it in the garage?
I hope so.
There was so much confidence in that answer.
He's like, of course it's a condom.
What else would be?
I was like, I'm going to guess that's not it.
Like, I'm just going to get ahead and a limb.
That's not the question they're going to ask us for all these kids.
He was so confident when he said that.
Honestly, I think that might be the most PG answer, though.
And then the follow-up question was, bang a Ui.
And then one of us, I won't name any names, proposed a question to the crowd.
Is anybody out there named Ui?
What does it mean to bang of you?
What's it like to bang a Ui?
I'm like, hey, is anybody named Ui?
I was going to leave you anonymous on that.
Wow.
I don't think they're going to ask us back.
No, I think they will.
Absolutely.
They need this kind of entertainment of races.
That was, that might have been the nail in the coffin.
The track side line of appearance.
I think it was.
You put the jimmies on the track side line of appearances.
We are done.
Who the hell calls sprinkles jimmies?
I don't ever.
Okay, that's the great people of New England.
Did you know that?
Oh my gosh.
Did you know that?
I didn't call that, but I knew it was the new England thing.
He's a freaking Tom Brady.
Yeah.
Guy hard of England.
A chowda eating wicked guy.
All right.
I asked TJ and I were walking through the parking lot.
And they have the best parking that a fan can possibly buy at New Hampshire Motor Speedway.
The spots are $200 per person and you park literally in front of the main gate of this place.
Easy and easy out.
where we walk through.
So I'm like, you know me.
I walk up to this parking spot.
I'm like, hey, how much you guys pay for the spot?
To a shirtless guy, first of all.
To a shirtless guy.
It was about 6'5 and he was big dude.
And I asked him, hey, how much you put him?
He rattles off to this guy.
Hey, Jason, what do you pay for this spot over here?
I'm like, what the f*** did he just say?
I mean, just that accent was like as New Hampshire as you could be.
That didn't sound like New Hampshire.
I don't even know how to do it.
not quite.
I look like C.J.
I was like, what he said?
How much was a rocky?
Two hundred bucks.
No, I need you to use the.
I don't, I don't know.
I know.
I know I need to use the, um, if you were a family,
do it.
The, um, twang that you were just using.
I don't even know how to do it anymore.
I was rocky.
Two on a dollar.
That was even rocky.
All right.
How was New Hampshire besides the access?
Fantastic.
Jimmy's and the Uis and the Uis and the Uis and condoms and.
And it was all.
the on track portion of it.
Which race you want to talk about first?
Oh, man.
You go with the Modifieds, Freddy's area.
Modified.
Modified race is good.
I think Freddie will blow a big lead, huh?
Well, he didn't blow.
He got a caution.
Yeah.
He got a caution.
Kind of blowing it for.
I mean,
blew a restart.
No.
So the modifies have a strange deal to where you can't,
for safety reasons,
you can put fuel in and take tires at the same pit stop.
Yeah.
So in order for him to main.
any kind of track position he had to pick if he wanted they were going to be cutting it really
close on fuel so he had to either pick putting tires on and risk running out or put fuel in
and have no tires and they went fuel and he just didn't get a great restart and got and got
passed and got shuffled back a little bit he yeah shuffle we took fuel and came out front
of him somehow so something got crossed up there but who did you spot for Kobe seven okay
well he led for he was up there with yeah we were we were really good we were not good
how'd you blow it we were just terrible in traffic for some reason um
We were going to, I think we still going to have really good shot at it,
but then Emerling, who ultimately gave the race away.
Yeah.
He, uh, nobody gave the race.
One guy hooked another guy.
No.
One guy came down.
Yeah, when he didn't have to.
That was going to say.
That's what I'm saying by gave the race away.
If he would have just drove straight to the line, he was going to be, he was going to win
the race.
That was him?
And yeah, and he hooked up.
No, no, no.
My guy was in the back.
Oh, you.
I was a seven.
That's right.
That's right.
It was 07.
So we got to run a fourth one.
Yeah.
Yep.
So the two leaders that come off of four.
So the modifies have a big draft there.
Like, you know, they were restricted.
They were stricter plates.
And the whole race was not like that.
Like, we got strung out.
There was no draft whatsoever.
Guys were gone all day.
And so they're coming to the checker and we are packed up because we just had a restart.
And Emerling does everything you do.
Like, you stay behind the guy now, get the big run down a backstretch, get clear in the three.
Got the race won.
Eric Goodell was running second.
He's got a little bit of a run off of four, but it's not going to be enough to drive by him.
him.
No, and for some reason,
Emerling just kind of hangs the left
and gets himself wrecked.
And Kyle Bonsignor was actually in position to win the race,
but I think he checked up for the wreck a little bit,
and that,
he lost by about a bumper.
But yeah,
Anthony Ocello on that one.
But I just,
seeing all my buddies,
modified world was good.
Modified races,
I'll spot for him all the time.
I'm going to go spot North Wilkesboro here in a couple weeks for Tommy,
and I don't know who the hell he's got driving.
Oh, what are they running that?
I don't go to that.
That'll be like August 1st and 2nd, I think,
or something like that.
It's Monday.
Daniel Jr. is running too,
right?
Monday, Tuesday.
I don't,
I think.
He's on Tuesday and Wednesday.
End of the month.
Yeah,
Dale's end of the month,
I think.
Okay.
He told me to put them dates
on my calendar.
I didn't do it.
Clearly.
Just in Pacey.
I think I'm going to go spot
for Landon Huffman,
one of those nights
that you're doing.
Oh, really?
So we can go fight about it.
Yeah.
I think there's a rumor
Landon's going to put my face
on his hood,
which I don't think I agree with.
There's probably a lot of things
You're going to be on landing's hood at that.
I might have to try to swap that out for a couch race.
Leonard seems to find the excitement.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Always.
But yeah,
the modified race was good.
I know spotting it for one of our buddies,
Austin beers.
He ran a good race.
His first race there.
So you had to pay the $60 to spot?
Yeah.
You had to pay to spot?
We didn't,
I mean,
I didn't pay.
I mean,
Tommy pay,
but yeah,
let's talk about that for a second.
So we have,
we have cup hard,
cards. License, hard cards, everything. The highest level you can get. We go to spot a modified
race and they say your cup hard cards not good enough. You've got to buy a single event
modified license to spot the modified race. Which I if like last year this started last year at
martinsville and nobody else was there like we were there on our own day. I was like a standalone
event I guess I can get it like there's nobody else here. So I don't know maybe insurance is different
but we literally had Xfinity practice like an hour after modified practice. So I had to be there
with my hard card. That works fine for Xfinity. It works fine for trucks. It works fine for
for ARCA. For 15 years, it's worked fine for everything but the modified series apparently.
But we'll see how that goes because I think that some people found out about it that didn't
know about it. And now they're asking why. It doesn't make any sense. It's like showing up at the
shoe show. You got to pay your cover charges to get in the door to make a living.
I mean, you preach about how much you're going to try and save teams money. And then they charge every,
like when we go to these races, like half the teams use a cup spotter to spot because we're there.
and now you're going to bang them for an extra $60
every one of them.
And what's the $60 per spot?
I really do.
The matter of what's your NASCAR sanctioned, right?
Yeah.
What's there in between that and like, you know,
if you go do an ARCA race or something like that,
it's no different.
I mean, we would spot an ARCA car there
and not have to go ahead.
You have the highest license that can be obtained
in the NASCAR touring space and it's not good enough for the
when you fill out the form on the bottom of it says
returning member or a new member.
I mean, you're, you already have.
The drivers have the same.
thing.
Corey LaJoy had to get a modified driver license this week to drive the modified because
how did he did good.
He,
uh,
I think he underdrove it in qualifying a little bit.
He qualified midpack.
I think he was running in the top five on the final restart and,
and didn't have a great,
I'm sorry,
final pit stop and didn't have a great pit stop came out in the back.
But I think he,
I'm sure he was in the top 10.
I don't know where he ended up.
But yeah,
I'm not even sure.
He was solid all day long.
We met,
we kind of got clipped at that wreck at the end.
Austin went to go low and they just kept sliding out.
He barely clipped something to right from.
Austin wiped out.
Austin wiped out the point leader.
Then he wrecked in the last lap.
Oh,
the point leader was behind us.
That silver car when he spun up.
Yeah, he spun into one.
You tell the story.
TJ, tell the whole story.
Please, do you share.
Don't leave about the good parts.
A guy got really loose in front of Austin about.
Totally.
It was Corey.
I 100% misjudged New Hampshire for these cup cars.
I thought the race was going to be wild restarts and boring as hell.
But the way the cautions fell,
the way we had a couple of big wreck.
the way the, I think it was the 18, it kept doing burnouts in the middle of green flag runs,
putting up huge smoke shows.
Jason, I know that probably hurt your feelings we're talking about.
I remember we love Kyle Busch.
You're using Casey's favorite drivers over at the JGR stable.
But I thought that race, to be a cup race there, was really good.
In the Xfinity race, man, I mean, and I tweeted this out.
A asphalt series, touring series, there can't be anything better going on right now in the Xfinity series.
The race lengths are perfect.
The races are awesome.
I mean, you've got Justin Algeyer driving into a lady who's making her debut,
completely just wrecks her car.
He comes back, wins the race.
Like, just a lot of good fun storylines, even inside of what already is a good race.
Yeah, I thought the race was, I thought this many race was good.
It was, uh, major pile up off a two.
Oh, big wreck, big dog, wreck, dog food.
He got bigger.
He rigged the dog food out of them.
Y'all didn't know what it was.
Well, now you got a freaking YouTube version.
I'll tell you what.
The 39 got the dog food.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And I mean, Exfinity Series right now.
I mean, look, silly season is running rampant.
There's a lot of Xfinity Series silly season stuff out there too.
Like what?
With teams that are.
Like who?
Like what?
I mean, there's a lot of teams that we hear financially in trouble.
There's a lot of driver movement's rumor to be happening.
Like, I think it's going to be, I don't think we know what's going to happen.
Are you?
Do you want to tell us any silly things?
Yeah, please, please do share.
I heard maybe one of you,
maybe somebody you spot for might be having to take
some weeks off. Well, that really narrows down.
You don't know anything about it?
What you got? What else are you going to?
I thought Brett had something big going.
When you said, no, no, nobody.
I've heard, I've heard one three car team
maybe losing a car.
In Xfinity? Yeah.
Because of financial reasons.
Yeah.
Three car team.
I heard one driver's stepping out for a few weeks to financially get some
got some other like maybe All-Star kind of cup spotter, you know, cup drivers in there,
cup spotters, cup drivers in there.
Maybe those two.
Three of us, we're going to rent it out for three weeks to kind of financially get him to the
point where his other sponsors kick in towards the end of the year.
So there's a lot of stuff going on out there.
I just think the biggest problem.
We're getting close.
Face is the purses.
The purses are weak and it's tough, man.
I mean, if you want to go out there and have an A-Motor program, very important to running well.
if you don't have an A motor program, you're not going to beat those Hendrick engines and those
freaking Stuart Haas engines and those Gip engines. It's not going to happen. I mean, imagine
showing up at Pocono this weekend where you've got literally the front stretches a mile long
and you've got a crappy motor. You're not going to beat them guys. To show up with an A motor,
to have enough people to work on your cars, obviously to build the cars by the tires.
Pit crew. You're looking at minimum $4 million. Minimum. You really need six,
but you're looking at a minimum of $4 million to show up
and be able to do the majority of those things.
And so when you look at that particular price point
and then you look at what these purses are,
it's not good, it's not healthy.
I think you talked about too right before Portland,
the fact that, I mean, they have to drive all the way
to Portland, which could not get much further.
No.
To make maybe what you had,
what you get for starting the race.
That's a long way to go.
Yeah.
And it wasn't around like a West Coast race either.
It was pretty.
But the series is putting on phenomenal racing weekend, week out.
I mean, obviously.
It's got the entire, it's got good drivers, aggressive drivers.
It's got the complete mix of drive.
And honestly, the Xfini guys might wreck a little bit now and then, but they're racing
pretty, like they're racing wrecks most of the time.
They're racing.
They're not idiots like trucks.
Yeah, trucks is just.
The trucks are almost like a glorified Beaumgray at times.
It is.
An understatement.
I'm sure we'll hit that later.
There's a certain segment of the show for that one.
But yeah, there's,
truck series isn't what it used to be.
It used to be one of my favorite series.
Now it's just becoming, like, it's just bad.
Good.
You've got a handful, and TJ and I talked about this yesterday.
You got a handful of guys that are able to pretty much be up front every week,
five or six of them, and they put on a pretty good show.
But after that, seventh, eighth, eighth, is on back.
it is just a complete disrespectful drive over your head bang and tear crap up it's painful oh 100%
and the series director could fix some of that maybe maybe but also the drivers coming in are in
control you know it's gonna it's hard to tell them them kids what to do they ain't that hard
I tell my kids what to do they listen sometimes yeah I was gonna say that's probably when I'm around
That's debatable, which is never, so they don't ever listen.
I did hear a rumor Chicago is going official today.
I heard that with either day or tomorrow.
So is it going official as July 4th or just going official that we're going there up to street race?
I was actually talking with a high profile driver, former driver last week via text message.
And he made the comment to me because there was a lot of buzz that we're leaving road America.
We're going to Chicago.
go there's a lot of industry buzz saying no don't do that go back to Daytona if we're going to do that right
um but the the rumor was that Daytona doesn't want us back on July 4th the town because they didn't
see a change in their economics and commerce by us not being there so it actually helps them
if we come back to give them a fourth major event of the year because obviously they have Daytona 500
they have Bike Week they had July 4th in a race well now they just have July 4th independent
it of a race.
So if you bring back the race, now you got four major events on their calendar.
So the rumor was a town doesn't even want us back down there on July 4th, which
makes sense.
Makes sense.
Yeah.
Makes total sense.
But I don't, look, if we're going to go, I don't want to go to Chicago on July 4th.
I'm not saying I won't go.
I'm not saying we aren't going.
I'm not going.
I'm just saying I don't want to go there.
Where do you want to go?
Man, honestly, you're going to think I'm crazy.
You're going to think I'm crazy.
I'm full-blown nut.
Well, first off, why don't you want to go to Chicago in July 4th?
It don't scream American city to me.
Just doesn't scream America.
They don't have enough, like, American flags out or?
I mean, it just don't scream America.
Look, I like the city of Chicago.
I know not to go on the east side.
I know not to go on the south side.
I know if you're going anywhere near the Chicago White Sox Stadium after dark,
you're probably not going to come out of there.
But I do think it's safe for us.
to go race there.
Like, I'm not that stupid.
But I don't know.
I just don't want to go there.
I'd almost rather be in Atlanta.
Well, I will say that if it's true and they are making it official.
They do a big fireworks festival in Atlanta.
I mean, so do Chicago.
I used to live there.
I'd say let's race Charlotte, July 4th.
That'd be awesome.
I do think NASCAR did a great job when they used to have the playoffs, like the kickoff
to the playoffs.
They did a ton of events there.
Some at the Navy Pier and on Lake Shore Drive.
so I think that they can blow it out pretty well.
But I think the Navy Peer is pretty American.
Navy Peer is pretty badass.
I would assume it's going to be July 4th when they announce it.
I mean, maybe they won't announce it today, but I assume that's...
Well, who knows.
Schedule that come out until August,
which is always fun on the sales side when you're out here trying to hustle sponsors
and you don't know when the races are going to be next year.
That's when, where, how many?
Have you heard any other rumors around track changes or schedule changes?
I mean, I think yesterday just proves
that we need to be at each track once.
You had a healthy crowd.
You put on a good show.
People were really excited.
The campgrounds were freaking slam full.
Freddie can attest to that.
I think he and Hirsch ate about 47 lobsters on Saturday night.
Combined we ate 47 lobsters and Hirsch ate 47 of them.
What Brett didn't tell you...
What Brett didn't tell you is we're walking to the trackside live deal
and I see Brett and we have not heard from Freddie.
and we're literally questioning like,
have you heard from Freddie?
No, did you?
No.
We went out to the X lot or so, oh no.
So we were a little worried about Freddie.
I think we're usually a little worried about Fred to come Monday morning too.
I rolled in plenty of time.
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Spot on, spot off.
It goes like this.
Spot on means you agree.
I'm spot on.
Are you joking me?
He's lost his mind.
Oh, and by the way,
No one ever seems to agree.
And then spot off means you disagree.
Spot off.
Here we fucking go.
This is the dumbest thing I've ever heard.
But if you're T.J.
Um, uh, uh, there's only one correct answer.
I don't know.
It's time for spot on, spot off.
First topic.
The decision by Martin Trix Jr.'s team to take two tires after dominating
ultimately costs them the win and puts him in the playoff cutoff line.
Freddie, spot on, spot off.
Spot off, have to go spot off.
You know, this was just a costly mistake on their part.
You know, they clearly had, I think clearly the best car all day long,
them and the four.
I think the four, did the four do the same thing that they put two on, I think, too?
Because they ran together the rest of the race.
Just, you know, they, they, they, they,
didn't get you know they put two tires on then they got a bad restart and kind of give some other guys position on them that had a little bit of rubber um so it's just um jimmies some jimmies yeah uh they just uh the the the
And at the very end he was fast again.
But like by then,
it was like everybody's tires had equaled out because that was one of the biggest things that helped us.
We were running about 10th and we took four.
And we were able to drive up to fourth or fifth and then a couple guys pit for fuel.
That's how we got.
But that's how we got in front of them.
But at the end of the race,
they were just as good or better than us.
The 19, especially on the last couple lapses running us down.
But it's just too late.
By the time the tires equalized, he was, you know,
half a track behind chasing them and stuck in third and fourth or whatever.
So it's just a costly mistake on their part.
Like, you know, every once in a while, it's just you kind of overthink it.
This is kind of, you know, this is maybe the second time.
They, the first time might have been on Martin where I forget where it was in Nashville,
maybe where they all pit at the end when they were running one, two, three and never got back
through the pack.
There's another one here.
So, you know, we're talking about how many winners there are.
And right now, Martin's the second highest guy or he's like fourth or 15 points.
And he's on the cut line, like to make the midst of playoffs if one more guy wins.
Fourth and points, March.
happen. Oh, easily. We got Daytona coming.
That's easy one to win.
Brett.
I mean, look, you watch, I'm spot on
for how fast that car was, let over
160 laps or whatever it was.
I'm also spot on for the experience
it provided the fans that were
there in attendance and watching on TV
because it created a lot of drama.
And it sucks for Martin. It sucks for his team. It sucks
for his fans. It was weird looking out there
and seeing that interstate battery scheme on that
19 car. That was
playing tricks on me. DeWalt on the 18.
Yeah. Yeah. The serious on
Kurtz. I can't remember that song in the 90s.
My mind's playing tricks on me or whatever was, but I
was like, man, that's... I kept looking back
and being like, what is Christopher Bell's problem today?
But I think it goes back to what I said earlier.
I think this was part of the dynamic
that made New Hampshire a really good
race. And it changed the strategy
and it changed the way the whole thing played out.
And the best car
and the best driver on this particular
day did not win the race.
Yeah, I'm a, I'm spot off.
I hate it for Martin to have that good of a car and to,
it's always a bitter taste if you lead that many laughs and you don't win the race.
There's not a bitter, but I mean, he was strong though, man.
I really felt like yesterday it was Martin's day.
Like it had that feel to it.
But that's one cool thing about our sport is, you know, pit stop strategy.
I mean, that's, I mean, you never know if you're going to get it right.
We timed it right on Saturday.
We stayed out on older tires.
Brandon managed to stay in the top 10 with older tires until 25 to go or whatever.
We got that caution 20 to go something.
And we had a set of stickers left.
Nobody else pit.
We put them on.
We knife up through the field and get inside the top five.
Freddie gets too low, so we get a free spot out of that.
Noah.
Noah is too low.
I think one of the interesting stats, if you look at the point standings right now,
the two main guys that don't have a win
there's Blaney's second in points
Martin is fourth in points I would talk about.
Planey's third now. Is he third now? Chastain second.
Okay. But
they have the most stage wins.
Martin's got the most in the season by seven.
Blaney's got five. I think Chase might
have five as well. So these guys
are fast. They're up front and in position to win
races and they can very easily pop one off here in the next
six weeks. This is going to be what
makes Daytona
the most exciting race of the year.
because we're going to get to the final race of the regular season.
And I'm telling you right now, Brad Keselowski is going to drive like a complete animal.
Given where they're at right now, Bubba Wallace, Ricky Stenhouse, Justin Haley.
These guys are all really good plate racers.
Do you see, so at the beginning of the season, you said there will absolutely not be 16 different winners.
Now what are you thinking?
I don't think we see 17 winners, right?
because that's the number that kicks out a winner.
I don't think we see that many winners.
I mean, when I rattle off and I look at this list that Jason was kind enough to print out for us,
and you look at, all right, look, who's out, right?
And you look at a Eric Jones.
I don't see him winning a race unless it's a plate race.
You look at a Justin Haley.
Same thing.
I mean, Atlanta, Daytona, Talladega is what we had circled in our calendars of places we thought we could potentially go win.
Michael McDowell, okay, there's some road courses coming.
Things could go his way.
AJ Amadinger last year at Indianapolis was running third
and he won the race because Chase Briscoe wrecked Denny Hamlin
and Chase Briscoe was under penalty.
The door swung wide open and boom,
Henwalks AJ Amadinger into victory lane to kiss the bricks.
So I think we could see one more guy get a win,
but I think it's going to be that Daytona,
like I'm telling you that Daytona race,
I'm already excited for it.
So you're telling me right here these guys are that close to being bumped.
Yeah.
Second and points.
And another interesting thing, which I think he's going to get a little far away from it now is,
so Blaney's 78 points out of the point lead.
If he can make that ground up and win the regular season, he's in.
Like, he's locked in.
So then that bumps, that's essentially another winner.
That could potentially bump somebody.
So, I mean, if you're Chase Briscoe, if you're Daniel Suarez, if you're Tyler Redick,
you're probably starting to sweat a little bit because now, you know, these are the guys that are in jeopardy.
They're going to race hard to not be the last guy.
end points with one win. Yeah, that's the, that's the battle you're looking at right there. I mean,
they're right there. 15. Actually, Kurt, Cindrick, they're all right there. 13, 14, 13 through 16 is all the
guy, or 13 through 17 is there are guys that have a one win that are, you know, that are in jeopardy.
Yeah. So Cindrick. I feel like Bill's going to have a little momentum here now. I feel like he's
going to be. Bill should be pretty safe because he's up at eighth in points. So he should be fun.
I think he's always driven. Well, it's the pick crew that's kind of screwed him. So I think Martin's
going to win a race before the end of the year. He's just too fast, not.
to. I don't know where it's going to come. Before the end of the playoffs, sorry, I should say.
I mean, it's a strong possibility. Kevin Harvick goes out and wins one of these races.
He's been strong. And if he gets a win and then somebody else sneaks in a win,
Blaney's gone. Yeah. I mean, he's going to be sitting there 30 points and going out.
It's crazy to think, yeah. From the playoff race. I mean, it's not completely out of the question.
We go to Daytona with 16 winners and somebody pops off a win and Chase Briscoe with a win
gets popped out of the playoffs.
Or whoever ends up being out last place.
Cedric or Bowman.
Could you imagine when the Daytona 500
and not making the playoffs?
And knowing you're good for your playoffs.
And then all of a sudden it's gone.
But this is why they created this format.
It's a lot of drama.
I just will say this.
When you Google Cup standings
and you're trying to find it on your mobile device
or your computer,
depending upon which site you land on,
it can get really confusing.
And one of the sites that you land on,
it'll be the points standings.
And the next one,
like ESPN does a phenomenal job of giving you what Jason has in front of us,
which is the playoff standings.
Actually, what Jason has in front of us is the...
He's both.
Yeah, he's both.
He's got the point standings on top, playoff stands on the bottom.
You're amazing.
Jason is just the best producer in all of NASCAR.
But it's tough as a fan sometimes to find what you need to actually know what the running order of the playoffs are.
Because like Denny Hamlin, although he's 19th in points, he's got two wins.
He's way up in the playoff standings.
He's sitting there fifth in the playoffs.
What's interesting, and I don't think a lot of people,
even people inside the industry that I was talking to yesterday,
did not understand how the tie is broken.
They're like, well, is it the regular season standings for the guys with one win?
Or is it the playoff standings?
Like, is it the reset and who's ever got the least amount of points?
Because you've got, you know, stage points or whatnot.
But no, it is, it is three wins is in, two wins is in.
Then the guys with one win, they go back to the regular season standings
and who's ever lowest in the standings there gets booted.
But yeah, even like, so you talk about how confusing it is for fans.
People inside the sport are like, well, which way does it go?
Like, how does this work?
So it, you know, it can be a little confusing for sure.
But it'll be, it's going to be interesting because we're going to get a lot.
In the beginning of the year, you get to that 13, you go out of this one.
You know, we're going to get close again.
Like we got close last year.
It's like, well, we have 13, 12 or 13 winners last year.
But, I mean, every week somebody pops one off and you're like, because I felt like
yesterday we were getting a new winner anyway because Martin and Kevin were dominating
the race.
And I was like, well, one of these two are going to win.
Yeah, for sure.
Chase was going to be the only one that could have been the repeat winner.
But that looked likely for his few labs there.
But it just had that feel to it yesterday.
So if Ryan, if Truex, Blaney and Harvick get some wins, I mean, if this could get really interesting.
Yeah.
So that's exciting.
Moving on.
Brad Kislauski and Austin Dillon swerve and hit each other under caution.
Brad then says, the guy tried to recpeed down the backstreet.
T.J. This one's for you.
TJ, what?
I think I saw what everybody else saw was the backstretch.
What led to the backstretch?
I'd have no idea.
Wasn't it a few, wasn't it last week or another race?
I don't, I don't know. I've never seen them have an issue.
I cannot tell you. I literally have no idea.
I mean, it's under cautioning.
You're just getting slowed down and lined up.
Got to go to the bathroom, whatever you got.
yeah and like i've seen awesome pull up there and at first i'm like oh he's just challenging a spot
for some reason but it wasn't even we were on single file so i'm not really sure and then i i couldn't
tell that he hit brad until brad turned back into him and i'm like what is going on back here like
what are they doing and i mean i'm spot off because like it's just unnecessary i mean if you're i don't
know. I just...
What did, did Brad say anything on the radio?
I mean, he caught him by surprise, obviously, and obviously it triggered him.
So this was the funniest thing I think I've seen in a long time. Like, I don't know what,
like I said, I don't know what happened before this. Nothing. Nothing happened. Austin goes up there,
like he's going to be like an intimidating factor and goes up there and just kind of just nudges Brad
with his right side. And Brad proceeds to lose his mind and just hang a left as hard as he could,
chase him down on the grass,
trying to hook him into the grass.
I think Austin tried to flatten.
I think he tried to flatten his left sides or something
because he hit him in the wheel.
Yeah.
It was close to it.
And yeah, I don't know, man.
But like, you know, if you're,
you know what it's like when you're,
you're in a battle back there.
You're battling hard and somebody comes up there.
Had your little tiff with Chastain already happened?
What are you talking about?
Didn't you have a little run in with Ross at some point?
Yeah.
You did off a four.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, that was.
But that had already happened.
So Brad might already kind of,
his blood pressure might already be out.
Yeah, but he didn't,
I don't feel like Brad was mad at that.
When he ran Ross low,
he was just,
he ran him low.
But he was just showing that he was.
And Ross gave a spot back.
He was just showing that he wasn't appreciative of it.
You know what I mean?
So he wasn't mad.
He just wasn't appreciative.
Yeah.
That's like the,
Ross drove into him,
but Brad was fine with it.
He wasn't,
he just ran him all the way down to the pit wall or halfway to the pit wall.
Once it was back settled and then Ross,
it was over,
You know what I mean? It wasn't like he was haunting him after that.
But I do know that we went back green after this deal.
And Austin drove into one and tried to get to Brad again and missed.
And he drove in so hard that he missed.
He slid up over the cushion.
That's how hard he drove in.
Have you ever seen those videos online where the young kids run and they like
knocked the hat off the older guy and the older guy chases him?
That's what it looked like to me.
Like Austin Dill went up there like, I'm going to mess with this guy.
And then it was like, oh no, this ain't going to go well.
He's chasing me.
He's chasing me.
He called me.
He almost dumped him getting into three.
Like, had they not been grass there?
Do you know?
Have they had the conversation since, you know?
I doubt it.
Yeah.
And here's the best thing about this, Casey, is the group, all the drivers are in a group chat.
It's a group me app and they're all in there together.
And they all get in there and talk about each other after the race.
And they're all in there reading this same stuff.
So if you're, if Brad gets in there and voices his displeasure,
Austin is in the room.
Yeah.
This is the best thing about it.
I can only imagine.
some of the comments that have been said lately.
I can tell you exactly what happened here.
It's very clear to me what took place yesterday with Brad.
What was it?
He spent five minutes on a couch with me and Brett and was just at his wish end.
Why that race started?
Brad did crash the trackside live appearance.
I knew when he rounded the corner over there that he wasn't going to miss the opportunity.
Yes.
But which was cool to do.
I mean, that was fun to have them up there.
But yeah, I really don't know.
it seems like Austin was just frustrated and he's having you know having a bad day and
I mean I literally when I looked at Brandon his spotter and I'm like what is this problem he's
like why'd you hit I'm like why'd you hit me and he's like because why'd you hit us he's like oh we
did I'm like yes like because you can see the they showed the replay it goes back to what we
said like we didn't foresee all of these things happening going in New Hampshire and it just
makes it better makes it better I think it just shows there are like people are so stressed right now
not knowing what the playoffs are going to look like.
Yeah.
Yeah, I really don't know what there was no contact before this,
that there was nothing to happen in the race that led to this with him.
But I just think he was frustrated and having a bad day.
And I guess he doesn't, like Brad, I guess.
I don't know.
I mean, it said in his interview, the part that, did you see the interview with him?
Yeah.
Well, he's like, you know, well, at least it got me an interview.
Who said that?
Oh, did he not say that?
It's your story.
How hell do we know?
I mean, that's what I heard.
So, but like, that's, I just think he's frustrated, man.
I mean, I like Austin, but he's just frustrated and, you know, everybody, they're out there driving hard.
And yesterday was a trying day for the drivers.
I'm sure.
I'm sure.
A lot of drivers ended up into Care Center after the race.
Don't know why.
Multiple drivers.
I don't almost say a lot, but more than one went to the Care Center after the race.
And I spoke with a different driver who when he got, he said he wasn't hot during the race.
he felt fine when he got out of the car,
it's like he was on a cruise ship all of a sudden.
Everything was kind of like moving.
So I don't know if we've got carbon monoxide issues in these cars
or what's going on.
But obviously something went on yesterday
because A, it wasn't crazy hot,
but B, you're running the side window.
These cars are still new.
Is that the first time, like, using these cars
that multiple drivers have gone into the infillicerson
when it didn't have to do with heat?
I don't know if it's, you know, the first time
or the second time,
but it definitely was A-time.
I know there were multiple guys
who had to go to the Care Center yesterday.
So something we got to look at
because, I mean, it wasn't crazy hot.
It was a long race to only be 300 laps.
It was pretty muggy.
Hell yeah, it was hot up there.
When that cloud would come,
you'd be like, oh, nice.
I'm sure Austin will get his front end fixed up
and be back out there next week.
Tyler Reddick signs with 2311 racing
for 2024.
Spot on, spot off.
Actually, Brett.
This could be its own show.
I agree.
I have a few questions.
Go for it.
This is a...
It might be one day.
This is, it might be its own show.
I truly, when this came out, I was speechless.
I looked at this and I was like, man, we told you guys two weeks ago that RCR had screwed up by not announcing an extension to a contract, by only announcing that they had picked up his option for one.
one season. We told you guys they screwed up. So spot off for RCR, spot off for whoever
wrote that contract, spot off for whoever didn't make this a more long-term deal. Freddie
talked to Tyler, I talked to Tyler. It's very obvious that he wanted in the beginning of
the season to have a long-term deal with RCR. For whatever reason, that didn't come to fruition.
So spot off for RCR. I don't know how you put yourself as a company in this position.
I guess my question marks to Tyler Redick, first of all, spot on to him.
Congratulations.
I mean, you're going to a team that yesterday had a lot of success, led some laps,
finished third.
I don't know where Kurt ended up because he was on a different strategy and had to end up hitting there at the end.
But obviously fast cars.
But if you're looking at the sport as a whole, right, you got super teams, is what I like to call them.
And the super teams are Hendrick, Penske, Stuart Haas, Joe Gibbs Racing, and
Richard Childers Racing. Those are the five teams that feed the other teams in the sport.
We'll call those affiliates. Okay. So he is essentially leaving one of the super teams and going to an
affiliate of Joe Gibbs Racing. So what does that say about Richard Childers Racing?
To me it says a lot. When you look at the Chevrolet stats, Chevrolet since 2014, okay,
Harvick was at RCR in 2013. He left. Since he left. Since he left,
in 2014, RCR has won five races.
That's not a lot.
Chevrolet, in that same span of time, has won 93 races.
So clearly it's not a Chevrolet problem,
but you're averaging just over half a win a year right now.
And you just lost a generational superstar.
This guy is one of the best drivers in the series right now.
So I'm going to just stop there and say spot on to Tyler Redick because he knows his future.
He's going to a really good spot with a manufacturer that is dumping resources into our world.
Did you just spot on your own question?
And spot off for RCR, man.
This is a huge loss.
I mean, you look at, you can correct me if I'm wrong because obviously you did a little more deep dive on this.
The first year, Kevin left RCR.
Did he not go, did he win a championship?
What championship is to our race?
Five races.
than a championship that year.
Correct.
I mean,
it's conceived.
Tyler could do the same thing.
And RCR went winless when he left for three years.
Yeah.
I mean,
first of all,
welcome Tyler to the newest,
he's the newest member of the Dennyhamham fan club.
Glad to be here.
He'll be around for a while,
it sounds like.
But yeah,
we talked about it on here last week.
And Denny proved our point by,
we were saying,
everybody's going to be after this guy.
And the fact that Denny went ahead and locked him up
18, 19 months before he can ever make a lap in Denny's cars.
Goes to show you how much in demand he was.
Denny was in a Twitter space deal,
racing spaces and said that, you know,
there was already multiple suitors out there for Tyler.
There was people out there with offers into Tyler already.
And he made a comment that they weren't even the highest bidder for Tyler at that point.
But, you know, it just goes to show you also that, you know,
obviously everybody wants Tyler, but 2311 is obviously an attractive place to come race at.
we got a lot going on, a lot of good stuff.
Like Brett said, the cars have been fast.
So I know he's looked good.
Speaking to that, I am in a contract here, Danny,
so whenever you want to get that locked up, I'm great.
Let's bring him on the show,
and we'll just do an announcement, just like he did last week with Tyler.
We just sign my contract right here.
So on that note, actually.
It's Air Tyler.
I have two questions.
One, you know, announcing it this early,
what does that mean?
A for RCR.
I mean,
emotional damage.
Awkward.
No, but I imagine
they're trying to find
sponsorships for next year
and knowing that Tyler is leaving.
In my opinion,
and I don't know where this is going,
this is not any kind of,
obviously I've talked to Tyler,
but I talk to Tyler a lot.
If RCR was to kick Tyler out of that car,
they'd be insane.
Because their only chance right now
to compete for a championship
is Tyler Reddick.
And it shows every,
week. I mean, Austin has some decent runs, but
consistency-wise, Tyler is
much, much faster. The A-car is much, much
better than a three on a weekly basis.
But, you know,
obviously, you're not going to give him
proprietary secrets. You know, there's
meetings that he's going to be with held out. I don't know what
secrets really matter. Yeah. I mean, there's not like there's, I mean, there's a lot
of stuff that you can tweak on these things
a little bit to help. But I mean, it doesn't,
I don't know. There's meetings he won't be involved with, but
I mean, you see some effects of it now. I don't
think you're going to see Tyler in that 48 X vanity car for a little while.
You know, I think he would like to still drive it, but I don't know if that's going to work out.
That's kind of a RCR affiliate.
You know, it's just a little random stuff.
And I mean, let me ask you a question.
If you're Richard Childress.
Who you mad at if you're Richard Childers?
Yeah, like, who the fucking you mad at?
The timing could not be any worse.
That's the word.
That was maybe the worst press release I've ever seen in my life.
No, no, no, no.
the ball bag.
Oh, the ball bag.
I'm sorry.
The second worst pressure leaves I've ever seen in my life.
I mean, that sounded like a whiny little, I don't know.
The same thing has already happened to RCR.
Did they not learn anything from it?
Kevin Harvick in 2012 announced he would not be back at RCR after 2013.
He put himself out there in a lame duck situation for a year.
Now, in that same situation, he run one, four races and finished fourth in the championship, I believe.
So clearly that was successful for Kevin and for RCR.
They kept everything going right.
I mean, the team's still around.
But this is a, this is, I've never seen it come out of this early.
You know what I mean?
Like I think when the whole Kurt Busch thing went down with Rauschenpinski,
something like this happened back in the day too.
But like we've seen lame duck drivers, you know, have to.
And they've kept running for that team, right out of year.
You know what I mean?
But, but I think that it's just.
the timing of this couldn't have been more weird.
I'm not saying it's not bad.
Was it intentional?
This guy, hey, we've picked up Tyler Reddick's extension, option year.
He's coming back next year.
Tyler Reddick goes and wins a race the very next week.
Tyler Reddick's going to Denny Hamlin, 2311, and he's out after the 2023 season.
Like the whole is just weird.
But to your point, if I'm Richard Childress and I've just lost one of the top talents,
in the sport, T.J. Majors.
Who am I going to put in there next year if I tell them to go get f***?
Say that again.
Say that again.
Who are you going to put in the car?
If you tell Tyler Reddick, get out of here right now.
I'm mad at you.
First of all, you got him under contract.
You publicly said that.
But if you say, hey, get out of here.
We're going to, we're going to pay you.
That's what you're going to have to do.
We're going to pay you to not drive here.
Go away.
Who are you going to put in that car?
I'm going to get John Hunter or I'm going to get Zane Smith.
And you think sponsors are going to get excited about either one of those two guys.
Don't know the answer to that.
You think either one of those two guys are going to get in that car and run better than Tyler Reddick?
I did not say that.
Do you think they're going to get in that car and win more races than Tyler Redick's?
Did not say that either.
You're screwing yourself.
You better you, you, you, you, this up.
Somebody at RCR royally screwed this up.
So now you have to make the best out of it.
I personally don't think you sleep on Austin Hill the following year.
I don't think he's ready right now.
But again, you've got a year to get your plan together.
and Austin's got a little money with him, right?
Because now you've got to have money
and you've got to have a driver.
I'm going to do that thing
where I'm not saying you're wrong,
but if you look at it from a team's perspective,
I think there are a lot of factors
that go into selecting a driver,
picking up an option year.
They might not have had a choice.
They might not have had enough sponsorship.
There's a lot of other factors
where they might not have screwed up.
It's just the way things were done.
The point we were making was Tyler wanted to be there
and then they didn't make it happen.
I also think, is what we heard.
But then I had a conversation yesterday with a high profile media person
who is one of our favorite people to talk about on this show.
You had a busy day.
I did actually win a garage.
And we started talking about scenarios.
And you're like, man, if you're RCR, your most valuable player in this entire organization.
I forget about, I'm talking about engineers, crew chiefs, even owners,
your most valuable player is Tyler Reddick.
You didn't sign him up.
all right well then when you didn't sign him up
and he came to you and said I want to be signed up
but you didn't do it right
if you're Tyler Reddick you have to say well if they don't want to sign me up
then why would I want to sign up right
then you start asking something so it's good then I look at Denny Hamlin
Motorsports this is how the conversation went
who's going to be running 2311 in five years
Freddie yeah it's me
it's Michael Jordan and Denny Hamlin
yeah who's going to be running RCR in five years
Mike Dillon
think so
I mean,
I mean,
Mike Dillon,
Andy Petrie.
I mean,
you've got a list of guys,
but it's not guaranteed
to be Richard Childress.
I can tell you that much.
You know,
I,
yeah.
Once you didn't sign him up,
Casey,
I get you playing doubles.
I don't sign him up
and he starts questioning,
well,
why would I want to be here
long term
if they're not going to sign me up here long term?
And then he had the ability
contractually to go out
and have conversations
and do what he did.
Somebody RCR didn't learn a damn thing
10 years ago with the whole Kevin Harvey thing.
Yeah, and I've seen, I've seen a lot of people complaining about the fact that,
that the timing of the announcement, you know, this, this, you know,
it is very weird timing.
Danny took a shot at, you know, this is, you know,
Denny, you know, taking a shot at RCR here.
Listen, here's, I think this boils down to one thing.
Denny wanted to announce his own news.
And the fact that, you know, he had to sign Tyler up when he signed him up to get him.
And we know as well as anybody in here that once anything breaks in this sport,
it's through the garage at some point.
And the rumor was that, you know,
eight minutes after Tyler had told Danny,
Tyler had told RCR,
people from RCR were already texting other people
within the sport about Tyler leaving.
So that,
so if you want to be the one,
what kind of text do you send?
Like,
like,
oh,
you just,
you know,
Tyler just walked in here and said he's not coming back in 2024.
Yeah.
He signed another deal with Denny Hamlet.
Break it.
Ruin their announcement.
Rewin their ability to make noise.
So, you know, you, so if you, every day.
And we see all the time on here, people come at us about, you guys shouldn't break news.
You guys, you know, people let people break their own news.
Well, listen, here's how you, if you want to break your own news, this is how you do it.
You don't let nobody know.
You line all your, you get all your ducks in a row.
And you announced this.
And the way they did it was classic.
You know, that was one of the funniest things ever where somebody's going,
Tyler, I think you're in the wrong Zoom.
And then he's like, actually, he's not.
Welcome aboard.
And then Tyler slides into the frame.
But, you know, if you want to announce your own news, if you don't want stuff to break, this is how you do it.
Well, don't let nobody know or let the bare minimum of people know and get it out there.
But don't let it sit because Danny had made a comment in that same racist base deal where he knew that if he waited for Tyler to drive back from welcome to Mooresville or wherever, you know, come to our shop, that news would have broken on Twitter in that 30 minutes, 45 minutes, whatever that drive is.
So I think he went up there and met Tyler and that's when they announced it because he was.
determined I'm getting this news out.
And that's why you've seen the announcement come out when it was, I think.
Well, props to Denny, it was, I mean, bomb drop there.
Entertaining.
Yeah.
And that's perfect for him.
And congrats to Tyler.
Very well deserved.
That's perfect for Denny.
That's exactly what he wanted.
I mean, who is, who is Denny Hamlin in business for?
Denny Hamlin.
I mean, this is a dog-eat-dog world.
It's working for him.
I'm not going to sit here and pretend that every, all these owners out here aren't animals
because they are.
They're rich for a reason.
they're successful for a reason.
And it's because they do things
the way that you have to do to be successful.
And I will say I completely,
this is rare, but I do completely agree with Brett,
that if I'm Richard Childress today,
I keep Tyler Redick in that car
for next year because he gives me the best chance to win races
and compete for a championship,
and then I transition to Austin Hill.
I think Austin Hill is one of the most underrated drivers in our sport.
He is.
And he's very good on equipment, too.
He doesn't recollect.
lot.
Richard's mad, right?
I'm sure he's really mad.
And once he gets over that being mad,
when you look at what's best for us next year for the future of our company,
it is damn sure not to take out Tyler Redick and put Ty Dillon in there.
And who else you're going to get?
Cas Grala?
I mean, who are you going to put in there?
I mean, there's guys, there's a Ryan Priest.
There's a Corey the Joy's.
I mean, there's people, like if I'm going to, if you're going to kick Tyler Redick out
and you're going to have to replace them with somebody with money.
Let's face it.
You know, they're not going to be able to sell sponsorship for any of the, you know,
Zane or Corey.
Like it's going to be, those are your options.
It's the two main truck guys, Zane and John Hunter.
It's Corey.
It's Preece.
It's, you know, there's some guys that are available.
But like-
It's unproven guys in Cup.
It's minimal wins outside of Cup.
It ain't like you can say Ryan Priest has won 10x50 races.
I wouldn't be afraid to put Noah in there.
I wouldn't be afraid to put Noah in there.
either, but rumor is he.
Well, yeah, we're going to, let's move on to this next topic because you are, you are already
ruining it.
Spot on, spot off.
Ty Dillon won't return to Petty GMS racing next season and Noah Gragson is reportedly the leading
candidate to replace him.
Freddie.
I mean, listen, this shouldn't really come as a shock to tie, I don't think.
Maybe it was a shock that they announced it already, like that you're out.
but we had heard last week that Noah was going in that 42 car
and did not expect the news to drop this quickly
but I guess which they haven't announced.
See then this is like the exact opposite of Denny.
You know like everybody knows who's going in the 42
but they didn't announce it so it's just going to sit around for a couple months
and Noah's going to get asked about it every every interview he does
until they announce it.
Tye's going to have to talk about it.
So, you know, but listen,
ties struggled this year.
you see speed out of the 43 car you don't see it out of the 42 i think he's got one top 10 versus
eric six top tens uh so they're just probably trying to get somebody else in there that they
think will will be competitive and and and let's face it noa brings some money to the table
um well my question is is like noa regretting this right now like if he signed this deal
two weeks ago and all of a sudden the gate car opens up are you going oh oops uh maybe i should
wait is that ain't open is it?
I don't think it is, right?
And if you look at who we think is open,
it's the 42, potentially the 18,
obviously the 16,
Colleg Racing,
they've got a full-time entry there
with multiple drivers.
The 10, he's probably coming back.
I mean, the 41 question mark,
I don't know if Custer's good or not,
but certainly he's not running well over there.
You mean, it's good.
Safety-wise good.
Yeah, yeah.
I don't know, man.
And I want to say this.
People were tweeting at me yesterday
saying that we wrecked Ty Dillon.
me explain something to you people. There's this big ass thing right in front of the driver's
head in these cars and it's a windshield and it's gigantic and it's really, really easy to see out of it.
No, no, no, no. It's really easy to see out of it. Then around where their feet go, there's these
pedals. One of them makes you go and one of them, believe it or not, helps you stop.
and when you see that you're three wide for 30th,
maybe even 32nd at this point in the race,
and that the guy in front of you out that big-ass windshield
that he's coming down, I'm going to tell you what you don't do.
You don't stand into gas and driving his door.
So all you people who tweeted me that we wrecked Ty Dillon,
you're all idiots.
You wreck the dog food out of him, man.
And then not only after he hit us, somehow another,
he managed to turn.
Wait a minute.
Wait a minute.
That was an odd, odd.
thing there. How did you think? How did you get three wide? Who is the third car in the equation
that made it three wide? Who is the guy on the bottom that drove into the guy in the middle?
I'm asking you. Who was the last guy to join the party? When you hit somebody at a stoplight
in the ass? You just got your answer. Is it the person and the back? You're for 30th,
three wide is imperative at that point in the race. It's imperative. That pedal. You're just telling you.
If you're the guy on the bottom, A, you don't drive into the guy in the middle. And B, after you do,
How do you wreck like that?
What about C if you're the last got to join the party for 30th?
Why are you in there?
I had room.
I shot the middle.
I squirt at the middle.
So it was an unnecessary risk.
So go back and Tydillon won't return.
Noah Graxton rumored.
I think this is, man, and yeah, man, I saw another guy in a garage yesterday, Bob Pockras.
Jesus.
And it's not Pockrass, despite how his name is spelled case.
He is Pachras.
So he informed me that during all these years, I have been saying Noah, last name,
wrong. It's not Gregson.
Well, yeah, you do actually say it wrong. It's Gregson. Gregson. Yeah. And I say, well, Bob, I don't
see it that way. But he informed me that it's Gregson and I need to start saying it correctly. So
from now and it's Noah Gregson. Sorry, I did the same thing. Bob, if we can slowly work on you,
working on a McBee, be nice. Yeah. So I think this is, if this scenario is what plays out,
I think it, Noah Gregson is ready to go cup racing. He's ready to go full-time cup racing. He's ready to go full-time
Cup racing. He has a really cool
personality about him that I think will
go well in the Cup series. I
think next to probably Kyle Bush
he'll be the second most
interesting guy in
that series. The question is
can he get in there and do what Eric Jones is doing?
Which is what you said, can he get up there and run top ten?
There were a couple races. I thought Eric was going to have a chance
to win. Yeah. And
the question is, he's got a long relationship
with Dave Ellen. Obviously, they
were at JRM together. So
I think this is, I mean, who would you rather
have Ty Dillon, T.J. or Noah Gregson? Yeah, I'd rather have Noah. You know, I, the sport needs
Noah. And I'll tell you right now, I've heard rumors. I don't know what Eric's contract situation is. I've
heard rumors there's teams after Eric, too. You know, it's a couple of those rides you talked about
potentially 10-41 are, you know, they're, they could be interested in somebody like Eric Jones,
who's showing right now that he can still compete with, you know, you want to, you're not inferior
equipment because not, you know, we're all got the same stuff. He's had a solid year.
He's had a really good year.
For a first time, Cup crew chief and all that,
it's at a solid year.
So, I mean, you may be in position where if Eric does move on,
you can just go ahead and pair Noah right back up with Dave
and then never miss a beat.
DJ, this next one is for you.
No penalty for Christopher Bell's wheel.
I got a question real quick, sorry.
What happened to the Xfinney race with Ty and Austin Hill?
Ty Gibbs?
No, Dylan.
They kind of had a little discussion in the garage area.
Yeah, like at the cars.
And so they...
I don't like his chances in that fight.
No, Austin's a big old country boy.
But so Ties over there kind of giving it, you know, like going at Austin a little bit.
And the best part about it is they get done like kind of arguing a little bit.
And Austin's like, just points away and Ty kind of goes away and Sheldon walks by and fist bumps Austin.
Which was kind of funny.
I think the best part was you laughing at yourself.
I'm laughing at the video that I saw, which is, it wouldn't have been a pretty battle.
Are you ready, TJ?
Now.
Now.
Now.
Too late.
No penalty for Christopher Bell's wheels coming off on pit road at Atlanta.
Spot on, spot off?
I am spot off last week when you were on vacation.
A wheel coming off is a wheel coming off, no matter if it's on pit road, on the racetrack.
wherever. To me, a wheel off is a wheel off. Now you're opening the door by, you know,
now you've got to just define if the wheel was rolling too fast, where it was at, was it dangerous
or not. A wheel off should be a wheel off, in my opinion. I mean, so this was their,
their quote from last week from, I think it was Miller, Scott Miller. We're still,
we're continuing to look at the incident and really potential consequence for the wheel
rolling down pit road. Now if that thing would have been going twice as fast as it was,
we would have had a, or had the whole field on pit road,
we may have a different view than we did with hardly any cars on pit road.
No speed to the tire. It was not getting away very far.
Who, what, what, what the, like who, where is the parameters for this?
What I'm saying? How fast can it be rolling? Yeah, how fast is too fast? Does it have GPS in
how many cars is too many cars? How far away is too far away? Like, why put yourself in this
position? Why have judgment calls? The tire.
falls off, the tire does not fall off.
It's a penalty because we've talked
about this. I get it. I get
it. You know, it's not running
it's the, you know, it's not like he's on
a racetrack and the wheels hauling ass on a front stretch
like Bush or at Nashville. But
listen, it's way more
dangerous to lose a wheel on pit road because
a car could hit, you know,
a car hitting a wheel that's rolling slow
that's running 50, 60 miles an hour is going
to launch it. And guess where the people are?
The people aren't on the racetrack. I mean, obviously
the people in the grandstands. There's no fence there. And there's, but
there's no fence.
This thing can just jump over a wall and clean out an entire pit crew or fans that are standing
behind the pit boxes.
Like it's way more dangerous on pit road.
So I don't want to hear that.
It's dangerous on the track too.
I mean, it's dangerous.
But I feel like there's way more people around on pit road that can be in potential harm.
Let's not just talk about the tire.
What was Christopher Bell's angle once all was said and done?
He was 90 degrees.
Pit wall.
Facing the wrong way pointed head on into the pit wall.
So to your point.
If the car that was pitting in that particular stall had been in their stall executing a pit stop,
someone could have been really injured.
Yeah.
So let's just say everything now is hypothetical that because there's not a car there
and that because the tire didn't go fast enough or because the tire didn't hit anybody,
we're not going to throw a penalty at you.
Well, now you've opened up, which you always do this.
Always.
You open two things.
You open the, I didn't penalize.
Christopher Bell. Well, is it because it's Christopher Bell? That's what you opened that box up.
Is it because it's Joe Gibbs racing? Why didn't you penalize a 20 car? Well, now you're going to have to
penalize a two car. Yeah. Because his tire was running 55, 60, 70 miles an hour down pit road yesterday,
but it didn't hit anything so it's really no different than the 20. Yeah. I mean, but you
two didn't hit anything, so it's really no different than the 20. I know you notice this. You could hear it.
You could hear the momentary panic in Tim Berman's voice when he's telling, heads up, heads up on
pit road gang, hands up, heads up. We got tire.
because he sees this thing
down pit road.
I hate this word
and I literally hate this word.
This is karma.
That's what this whole scenario is.
Last week you should have penalized
Christopher Bell and you didn't.
And now you have the exact same scenario
only the fact that it's
four times worse
because there were people
actually own a live pit road.
But the pit road was live the first time.
So this drives me bananas.
Yeah.
This is bananas.
Yeah.
It is bananas.
It's just there's,
just I there's nothing that you can do worse and you're in as an officiating or sanctioning body
then make put yourself in a position where you have to make judgment calls because there's just
no way to be consistent with it you know there it's I mean there's there's ways to be you know
semi-consistent but we've already seen that their consistency lacks on caution flags and stuff like
that so now like you said like how do you not penalize it too this week but then how do you justify
not penalizing the 20 last week 20 got a free pass
Yeah, because I think moving forward, it's got to be, it's just too unsafe.
I don't care if the thing just bounces around a little bit because all it takes is one car coming down to road to hit that tire and it's God knows where it's flying.
But look at this scenario you created. You gave the 20 a free pass according to all three of us.
Who won the race yesterday? Does he win the race yesterday if his crew chief sitting at home?
Or is two are his freaking two all-star tire changer guys?
That might be a difference, but the crew chiefs took it on. Doesn't matter. They created this whole.
conversation that we're having. If a tire hits you, say there was a, say there in Atlanta,
if there was a guy standing in the box front of him, if that tire is even rolling at three,
four mile an hour, if it hits him from the backside, it's still going to drop him down and
maybe tear is AC or something. I mean, there's, if I take a tire and there's a tire in here
and you stand over there by the door and I smoke, like, I just roll it with my arm and hit you in the
back of the leg, it's probably going to knock you over or at least like buckle your legs a little
bit. Exactly. I mean, it's like it's either off or on, in my opinion. It's either, yeah. And if you do a good
or not, if you know it's coming off, you creep around and get it fixed, fine. If the tire stays in
your box, I'm okay with you not being penalized. If you leave your box and the tire comes off,
you're penalized. I don't know what in the hell happened at the 41. Did you see this pit stop at the
end of the end of the race yesterday? There's the very end, like 10, 15 to go. They, I have to go back
and see a video of it. But like, they dropped the jack on the right side and the changer was
still holding the right rear tire.
Like it didn't fall off.
They had just,
the guy was still holding it.
I was like,
what just happened down there?
Like,
they just dropped the jacket
before the guy
haven't got a chance
to put the tire on.
But like,
for that's to that point.
Yeah,
if you get,
like,
if you start to move
and the tire either
like lays over or,
but like once you send that tire
rolling in any direction
out of your box,
that should be the same penalty.
This is a crazy sport right now.
We literally just watched
Joe Gibbs Racing
announce that they have a tire changer
signed up for,
what, five years?
Yeah.
And you won't sign up
Tyler Redding for four.
five years. Like, this is a crazy sport right now.
Freaking tire changers are getting better contracts lengthwise than drivers.
Five years, man. Dang. Who would have thought it?
I thought of Denny about that five year deal.
I do think it's cool that they're highlighting pit crew members and crew members in general.
I think that's something new. And I don't know him personally, but I saw Jackson Gibson Gibbs is on one of the pit crews.
He is. So Jackson was the one that got switched last week. He was our changer.
And so Jackson had been on, he had been on the 11 a little bit to start the year, I think.
Maybe he's a fill in, maybe when their guys got suspended.
And then he came to our team and he was on our team.
And then when they swapped him and him, he was the change of front changer and the carrier went to the 20.
And that's Joe's grandson?
Joe's grandson.
And he had been, I think, like a backup quarterback like UCLA, App State, I think he was too.
Very cool.
He played locally here too, didn't he?
Didn't he go to day or like high school around?
Yeah, I lived in Cornelius.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So that's cool to see him on there.
Yeah, that's awesome.
Moving on, driver comments on taking the hardest hits of their careers in the next gen cars.
Jason, you want to read that?
Joey Logano said these cars, they hit harder than ever.
They hit really, really hard.
They're super solid.
It hurts.
And then NASCAR's managing director of safety engineering, John Padillac, maybe that's how you pronounce the name.
says he made a comment that NASCAR doesn't have a great engineering explanation as to why the perception is not matching with the data that says the hits are similar to a decade's worth of crashes. Brett, spot on, spot off. I mean, we kind of talked about this a little bit. And obviously I've had a lot of conversations with the drivers that I'm affiliated with and I've had a lot of conversations with Jeff Burton around this. And all that I keep hearing back is that if the hit is not massive,
the driver gets the brunt of the force.
He fills it a ton,
but if the hit is hard enough
to actually really go in there
and move the barriers,
the data shows that it's not as hard on the driver.
It's hard to say what's going on here.
I mean, obviously, you don't want our drivers
saying that it hurts,
but the data keep showing,
and I don't want to,
I hate to say that because I don't see what they see
and I don't know what they know.
Friddy has an issue, too.
But the data keeps saying and showing
that in these scenarios,
the driver is not going to get hurt.
And as weird as that may sound, it hurts the driver,
but they're not going to face an injury.
Even Jeff and I were talking about if they back the car into the wall,
it is potentially with this particular car in the way our safety walls are designed.
The hardest hit a driver can make in these cars as far as what the driver is going to feel.
But yet in every one of these scenarios backing it into the wall,
despite the fact that it hurts the driver the most,
it actually doesn't injure the driver in any of those scenarios.
So I've been, listen, we were hard on NASCAR before this car ever ran for two reasons.
A, we were worried about driver safety.
And B, we were worried about how hot these cars were going to be.
And here we are, you know, however many races in, seems like 20 races in.
And we haven't had any injuries, knock on wood.
And we haven't had really anybody saying they've been too hot, you know, knock on wood.
obviously we had some guys yesterday with issues, but it wasn't, according to the guys I talked to,
heat related.
This is one of those things where you look back at 2001 when we lost Ellinhardt, and obviously
we had lost a lot of guys leading up to that one, and you say, man, we hadn't lost anybody
in over two decades, and that's because of NASCAR.
Nobody can get more credit than NASCAR can for keeping our guys safe.
Yeah.
I mean, it's a strange deal because, like, Bubba kind of agreed with Joey, like them two big hits
we took at Atlanta at the front start finish line and i guess it was talladega maybe star finish line
coming to the checker at the end and bubba's like yep those are p1 and p2 on my hardest hits and this is
a guy that drove through the wall at polka no breaks a couple years ago um so you know to say that but
then you have austin dylan who we saw like to your point like i mean that buckled the soft wall
he killed the wall last week in Atlanta in that wreck with ross and uh true x and he was like no
it's fine i didn't really you know it wasn't that bad you know so it's it's it's it's
It's just, I guess it's how you hit, where you hit.
You know, I'm sure like a driver's side impact that's going to hurt still, a rear impact
that's still going to hurt.
Joey had a dog leg wreck at Charlotte or something like that.
He'd get pretty hard.
Even Kurt, Kurt said the one when he wrecked at the Coliseum, which, I mean, we're doing like 50 miles an hour there.
He just, he said, you know, he's like, that was hard.
You know, that was rough.
And that was the first race.
And I'm like, oh, man, like, we're in bad shape here.
This guy's already saying how rough this hit was.
And we're running 50 miles an hour.
Like, what's going to happen?
we're going somewhere else but you know i don't to their point like some of the guys say it's
terrible some of the guys say it's not so bad i think it's just where you hit how you hit you know
it's wrecking's not fun no matter what and you know credit to nascar they the car it might be a hard
hit but you know there's no injuries you guys are there's still i still feel like the cars are safe
they've done a this car's been i mean it's been a good i like it i think it's done well aside
I mean, aside from the cost of it, it's done everything that NASCAR's wanted.
But right now, the costs are outrageous.
For me, for me, I hate the shifting.
I do hate the shifting.
I do hate the shifting.
I absolutely cannot stay in the shifting.
Phoenix, Texas, terrible.
Martinsville, definitely not good.
Outside of that, this thing's been a 9 out of 10 everywhere else.
But fixing will fix some of that.
The two tracks you named first there aren't necessarily car-related because the other series that run there
they struggle to put on a really good show.
You look at what Denny said last week.
He was on the record saying you have completely changed the way we go about attacking these racetracks.
We were momentum drivers.
Now it's, ah, we miss a corner, we grab a gear, and we freaking hammer the gas and off we go again, right?
And the fast cars are still going to go fast.
I think this benefits a guy like Chase Briscoe.
Him and Ross, this benefits their style because Chase will be, and Tyler Tucson,
they'll be the first guys that we look at.
what gear are they using? Are they going to third?
I mean, those are the first two guys that'll, you know.
But literally it allowed and tight racetrack.
The last thing I want to hear when I walk into the lounge is they're shifting before you do to help slow their corner to down.
They're shifting later than you do.
Instead of the lounge.
And I'm like, why in the, are we talking about shifting?
I think that's, I think we have to because of the gear.
You have to.
And I think that's, I think that's why Corey wrecked yesterday.
I think I heard TJ tell somebody that, on.
a downshift.
Not me.
No, T.J. Bell.
Yeah.
He just said like on the downshift, it's like kind of locked up.
That's what I was on the broadcast too.
Yeah.
Interesting.
Not a fan of all of shifting.
Yeah.
That's the only, if I could change one thing, the shifting would be the thing that I changed.
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Yeah, this is Andrew.
I am the Brett Griffin fan club president of the Indiana chapter.
Finally, yes!
Way to go, Josh!
Way to go!
The data tells me that Bubba still sucks.
Freddy, you can't see shit.
I just want to say, I'm not drunk.
My great-grandma could I run him and she's 90-8.
Reaction theater rolls in three, two, one.
I can only assume Emmett Smith is sitting here watching this Xfinity Race one.
Why the hell is Kyle Weatherman in the top ten, and you were 15 seconds off the leave most days?
That kid should be driving our car all the time, and Jesse Woogey's like, no, man, it's cool.
I like wrecking the leaders and stuff.
Like, no, it's good, dude, it's good.
Like, come on. This is a joke.
This 34 car has speed, and Kyle Weatherman's not a bad driver.
He's right.
I can't disagree with anything he said.
Unfortunately, I don't think Kyle Weatherman is the answer.
I think they're going to go out and look for a guy that, you know, has probably a little more experience than Kyle
and maybe has a little bit of money.
Could happen.
And I just don't see them.
I think Owoogi is seeing the light.
And Owoji has an amazing opportunity in this sport as an owner.
Yeah.
I mean, I think...
I think it's pretty bad assing him and eminor owners.
I think he is great at every aspect of the sport except for one, unfortunately.
Yes.
So you get to me a driver.
He brings...
He brings a lot of good stuff to the table.
He brings...
He's got obviously a marketing base because cars always got a sponsor on it.
He's got Emmett Smith talked into being an owner.
I mean, he brings a lot to the table.
Nice guy.
Great story.
Great speaker.
Does not need to be a race car driver.
Yeah.
And Kyle's doing a good job.
I mean, Kyle's making...
Kyle always does. He did the same thing in a 47 car last year. Yeah, I thought so too.
He's done a lot of good things for himself. I just don't think in this scenario he's the answer for these guys.
I mean, I was told these guys are in, you know, some JREM chassis and some Hendrick Motors.
And if you got those kind of resources, that means you got some pretty good money coming in.
You cannot put yourself in a position where with those kind of resources, you're A missing races,
B putting in substitute drivers, C, your wreck and running 38th. Like, you got to do the right things.
The 48's similar to the 48's done good things.
smartest thing Richard Childers ever did was realize he couldn't drive as good as he could own.
And he became an owner.
And he's down a damn good job at it.
I'll tell you what.
Austin Dillon's going to at least make two or three episodes for his new TV show off New Hampshire here.
He's making more friends out there than Ross Chastain.
Jesus.
I didn't know he had a TV show until this week.
Has anybody watched it?
Casey, have you watched it?
Casey has definitely watched it.
I've watched half an episode when I was waiting on the count on the green.
Is that good?
I honestly just haven't really watched a lot of TV.
What's that about?
It was just their life and, like, things that they do is, you know, they're getting ready to have a baby.
Oh, they are?
That's cool.
Well, no.
Paul, or what's his name?
Paul Swan.
Yeah, Paul Swan and Mariel.
They had a baby, so.
I don't know them.
They're best friends.
Yeah, you know them.
And just, like, things that they do as friends.
And it's just a, it's more like a sitcom.
I don't know.
I think that there's probably, like.
So it's like Sanfell.
It's real.
Yeah.
It's, it's, I mean, it's, it's probably exactly what you're expecting.
I mean, it does help give, like, fans they want the entertaining side of the sport.
Is this what you want?
Is this the content?
I love racing wives.
Let's bring racing wives back.
That show did great.
I liked the, we talked about it before.
I liked the show where they take different guys and you see what their weeks like.
Are they recording a documentary right now, like USA?
I heard something about a series for USA, but I haven't heard.
I think they are, but they haven't really talked much about it.
I have seen some camera crews interviewing.
a few people, I think, like, Ricky and a few other people I've seen, but I'm not exactly sure.
Yeah, I just wanted to call in, say, it was a great race here at New Hampshire, and that Austin
Dylan is a baby back.
Don't understand why he would say something like, I don't like the way Brad Keselowski races.
Maybe if Austin Dillon race a little bit more like Brad Keselowski, he would have more than three
wins over the last 12 years, three that he lucked into.
But good job, TJ, proud of that six team.
Go Cox.
Oh, I have explained.
Was that you?
You disguised your voice better this time.
I thought it was Dale Jr.
When he first started talking.
You think when he said baby back, you thought it was in?
Then he said, Go Cox.
I knew it was because Junior's a sleeper spurious fan.
If you want me to play your party, you've got to let me know.
Some of us folks out here have a schedule.
And if you're going to have hot women, be sure to have Casey Bow.
So I can sing her the song, but I just
road.
It's called, will you marry me?
Casey Mo.
I like it.
I better start looking for a maid.
He'll get it at the end, but honestly support it.
We need to get Jeb to come.
Yeah.
He's got a schedule.
Hey, Mike.
We have a performer lined up for the Bristol Suite experience and just needs your approval.
Just sign them up.
Just send him an email.
He'll never reply or a text.
You'll get an answer at some point a week later.
I forgot about this.
I forgot about that.
he sent me last week.
Did you guys do that one?
I did it.
You're not leaving until you got filled out.
I did it.
Sorry about it.
I just gave Mike a little taste of his own medicine there.
I forgot all about it.
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It is time for the hashtag AskDBC OfferPack question of the week.
I know Freddie tweeted about this yesterday, if you guys did, send in your questions on Twitter each week using
hashtag ask DVC and we'll answer the best ones.
You guys had some really solid questions this week.
And we've already answered a ton of them earlier on the show.
So we are going to kick off one question from at Bruce B86.
And do you guys expect this year's parody to continue next year and on?
Brett.
No.
Why?
I think these teams are going to.
going to keep getting better.
I think this winter, look at the last winter, man.
It was a scramble to put these cars together.
It was a scramble to have a fleet of cars.
I mean, we had, you know, at Colleague Racing,
we had three cars for two teams for weeks upon weeks.
You look at Spire Motorsports, you know,
they've torn up three cars in the last two weeks.
Like, had that happen week one,
you'd have been in a full-blown panic mode,
borrowing parts and all the different things.
So I think this winter, these power teams that I mentioned,
those superpower teams, the super teams are going to keep getting better and better and better.
I think the depth of those teams just freaking launches them into what we know to be.
The fast cars are going to run fast.
Cream's going to rise to the crop.
We've not really started going to these racetracks for the second time yet.
We went to Atlanta.
That's kind of a wild card, right?
But we're going to start going to some of these tracks for the second time.
And that's when these teams with all this engineering support and all of the,
these talented people and these drivers who study and work hard and look at all the S&T data,
that's when you're going to start seeing the gap.
So I don't think you're going to see the parity that you see right now.
I don't even think you see parity within teams that you see right now.
Like you look at Kevin Harvick, where'd he run all day?
Yeah, top five.
Where'd Briscoe and Custer run all day?
Never saw him.
You never saw them.
I saw them.
Because they were back there with me.
Hell yeah.
Saw him all damn day.
You look at you look at a Ross Chastain.
Dan Souris, I realize Sauras has a win, but he's sitting there on that point line.
He's in trouble.
He's nowhere near what Ross Jastain is.
So I think you see this gap not only get bigger within the teams, but also even within
organizations.
These better drivers and these better teams, like the Rodney Children's of the World,
they're always going to find a way to be faster than everybody around them.
I agree.
You know, we talked about this kind of leading into this year, and it's just, they just have
more resources.
And we talked about it earlier where, you know, when you say you're going to save these
team's money on no testing or limited practice, well, all they do with that money is take it
and dump it into their SIM department or their engineering department. And they're just going to
continue to get better and continue to improve. And the rich will always get richer. And I think
you'll see that gap continue to grow as like Brett said, no matter what you do, you got guys,
it's going to be as easy as even like Brian Patty, like plate races. Guys just know how to make
their stuff go fast. You know, they know little tricks of the trade to where they can
tweak on stuff, what they can get through tech.
They know it. So there's always going to be a guy like a Rodney Childers or, you know,
Chad or whoever else that can just know how to make a car go fast.
And the longer you give them to kind of tinker with things and find them little holes that they can play with,
they're going to continue to get better.
So I think, I mean, I think that this year is going to be the most winners we've seen
a season for a long time.
I don't think, I don't think next year we're talking about when it could be completely
wrong like we were this year.
But, you know, I don't think next year you're talking about 16, 17 winners again.
I don't think the jump is going to be as big as what is yours, you know, maybe in the past.
I think the playing field is pretty level, but I think the box everyone has to play in is a lot smaller.
So the margin that you gain, I think it's going to be harder to gain bigger chunks.
I do think they're going to, the good ones will be good, but I do think it's going to be harder to game as big a chunks at one time because there's more airy to do it in before.
Now a lot of parts are limited that you could work on,
so it's going to be harder to find that,
but it's obviously fast cars are going to go fast.
I've missed hashtag AskDBC.
I truly have because I think it creates a lot of conversation with us,
and we don't never know what these questions are until Casey Rattles' mom.
You say Brian Patty's name.
TJ and I were talking yesterday about, you know, Roush, Fenway, Keselowski racing.
Obviously, I'm at Colleg Racing.
if either one of those organizations hire Brian Patty today
and come in and give him run of the shop,
do you think it makes those organizations better and faster?
100%.
A hundred percent.
He's one of those guys.
He's not even top of the food chain where he's at.
He's got Ernie Cope above him.
Like he's one of those guys.
When I look back at how fast Nemco used to be,
which was Nemichick's Bush Series teams.
And he had the Kleenex car flying.
Like he had everything in that.
Brian, Brian Patty's one of those guys that can just make everybody better.
He lets people go out and do their jobs, but he's a smart, smart dude.
He's what Todd Parrott was 10 years ago.
And when you have those kinds of guys, that's where teams make big gains to this, you know, fans' point.
This is where you make a big gain is you go out and get a guy like that when you're not,
you don't have the depth you need to run the competition side, maybe like what Rouse currently has or maybe like what Collick currently has.
You know, Chris is kind of top of the food chain, obviously, at Collie Gracie.
he's the president, but you can't run all facets of your business when you've got five cars,
a sponsorship department, a show car department, the competition pieces that all have to be there,
the engineering, the managing the motor program.
You need a car guy running those kinds of things.
And when you get people like Brian Patty in place, they can make a huge difference.
You look at, just look at, you know, we all talk about Ricky Stenhouse as being a really good plate racer.
You know when Ricky Stenhouse became a really good plate racer?
when Brian Patty started building his race cars
because they hauled ass.
I had Patty with me at the 16
and R. We had Defass
as played cars on the planet that year.
And on top of that, when he's a crew chief,
somehow he pulls some shit out of his ass
every time to end up in the lead.
I don't know how he does it,
but like he knows a strategy call
and he plays a race out better than most, I would say.
So like you said, yeah, like those are the guys,
but that's what I'm talking about.
Like these guys, the longer they have to work with this car,
the more they're going to figure out where they can trick it up and what they can get away with
and figuring that. So then Brian's one of them guys. Like you said, Rodney's one of them guys.
There's a lot of guys out there that know where to play around and make things a little bit quicker.
I grew up with the Jimmy Finnings of the world. You know, like you look at those kind of guys,
the Greg Zipadelli's of the world. I mean, he built a freaking car at Texas and NASCAR impounded the entire car right there in the garage,
didn't even let it practice. Like those are the kind of game changer guys I'm talking about that are still
there to chat canalsas of the world.
I mean,
he's run freaking Hendrick.
Like you,
you have those kinds of guys
and when you elevate them,
you make your cars faster.
But anyway,
thank you guys for the questions this week.
Sorry we didn't get to ask about one
because we talked about everything else.
We're supposed to get asked.
And please,
remember,
if you're listening to this,
use the hashtag X DBC.
I tweeted out my,
you know,
A.
AXC.
That's what I said.
A.S.
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Put some sprinkles on.
Jimmy's,
whatever it is.
But,
you know,
use the hashtag.
please, because I had about 50 questions and maybe five hashtags.
Whoa.
Yeah.
Congrats again to at Bruce B86 for having this week's offer pad question of the week.
Keep sending them in.
Use the hashtag AskDBC and we will keep playing them.
It's time for us to get to our favorite Xfinity X-Fi,
more than fast moments from the week.
Whether you're behind the wheel or online, speed isn't the only thing you need.
What were your favorite more than fast moments this week?
T.J.
You know, I'm going to go and give it to my own team.
My Xfinity X-5 moment will go to the sixth car in the cup race.
At one point, we are battling down the backstretch under yellow with a flat left front
and we battle back to get a top 10.
So I think, you know, Brad had a pretty impressive drive from,
From that moment, he drove up through the field quite a bit.
So Matt made a couple adjustments on the car, and Brad took off.
So let me give up to the six.
Pat's cell phone back.
Mm-hmm.
I'm going to go with all the fans that tune in for these Xfinity races.
Your eyeballs win the Xfinity X-5 more than fast moment
because you are tuning in to some of the best freaking racing that I have ever seen.
That might be the biggest reach I've ever heard.
It is.
It's amazing.
I'm telling you, if I'm a freaking race fan, that's who's winning in these Xfinity Series
races.
They're that good.
Agreed.
I wish that I could just spot Xfinity full time next year.
Like, I wish it could pay me enough to just do that.
That's all I had to do in my whole life.
I got news for you.
He's lying.
I would just love to do it.
Is there a chance that's happening?
No.
I don't know.
There's no chance that's actually when it turns to SUV racing like DELSA.
Yeah, it's going to be, we're going to run Jeeps next year.
What?
My X-Finity X-5 more than the past moment,
while it would be very easy to give it to my own team,
I'm not going to do that.
I'm not T.J.
I mean, who would ever do something like that?
But Bubba did run a good race yesterday.
But I'm going to give it to Justin Allgaier.
I mean, he came from,
I thought he was completely out of the race.
You know, at one point, when he had that damage from the wreck with Julia,
I thought that I looked back and he was,
he had the fastest car that first run.
He was running down Gibbs for the lead.
And then he got that damage.
And then when I look back, he was running mid-pack,
12, 13th.
I was like, oh, man, I guess that damage is going to knock him out of the
race and I thought we were going to have a chance to win.
And then at last restore, one of the last restarts, he comes busting out of the pack.
And I'm like, well, damn, he's a little better than we are.
And now we're going to race him for the win.
So for them to come back and battle back and win after that was my Xfinity X-Fi more than fast moment.
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What an idiot, man. Time for what an idiot. And I'm slightly afraid for the person that I think
is going to be nominated from Bowman Gray. I mean, well, so Saturday afternoon, I thought,
I had my one idiot locked up.
The modified race.
Well, no.
I mean, the modified race was interesting, too.
But, yeah, that was,
Emerling definitely was up there.
But, well, Jeb was leading.
As a, Jeb was the leader in the clubhouse Saturday afternoon,
right up until this idiot, Nick Wall goes and decides that because he got spun out at
Bowman Gray, he wanted to destroy his race car.
And the other guys.
And the other guy's car.
But, I mean, you're essentially, I don't know how much time and effort is.
I don't know who Nick Wall is, how much money he's got.
But he just knocked the front clip off of his race car because he got spun out at Bowman
Gray.
I'm sure that race paid all of $7 to win.
I mean, I don't know.
It's a street stock race at Bowman Gray.
And these things look like late models.
Like, what's the street stock class?
I thought they were late models.
I thought it was too.
So, I mean, listen, this Bowman Gray is kind of, it's, it's a joke, essentially.
Like, if this is what you're going to let this place go to, you might as well shut
it down because it's embarrassing.
Like it's embarrassing.
Every week we get a video of two idiots running into each other, wrecking their race cars.
Somebody's going to get hurt.
We had guys rolling around on the pit on the track while races were going on a couple
weeks ago.
One guy jumped off the top of his car.
Yeah.
Like there's races.
The train races are still going on.
These guys are rolling around on the ground.
But I mean, I don't understand.
I'll never, never for the life of me, understand how much time and money it takes to go
into building that race car for you to blow the nose off of it one and go, you know what?
I'm not done yet.
I'm going to go ahead and blow the whole front end off here.
and T-Bone this guy in the grass.
And not only that, they have rules about not driving on the grass
because the Winston-Salem State is letting you use their football field as a racetrack.
And here you go, just tear up all their grass and stuff at the same time.
Like, it's just, you can't be a bigger idiot than what I saw in that video.
Go ahead.
I really want to give it to my crew chief, Trent Owens, because how long has he been in NASCAR?
He had his 300 cups start yesterday as a crew chief.
You know what he did when he went out of the racetrack to go to the airport, TJ, to go to the
Manchester Airport.
I'm going to guess.
Manchester is to the left.
Manchester to the left.
He went to the right. He thought he had a short coach.
That was your crew chief?
Yeah.
I got so many questions here.
So anyway, Freddie was in tech last night and Freddie took off before I did.
Freddy was not in tech.
Freddy's guys were in tech.
My fat ass was on the plane.
Freddy's guys were doing tech because they had a great fan.
You thought we won the races, ladies I got.
Anyway, that's not my what.
My wood of idiot is obvious this week.
It is whomever screwed up the whole Tyler Reddick situation at RCR.
and let the MVP of your company walk out the front door at the end of next season.
I can't believe that they made this mistake.
So whoever is responsible for not signing Tyler Redick back up, congratulations.
Could you imagine Steph Curry going to the Warriors and going,
I want to come back and they go, yeah, we'll think about it.
Yeah, we'll let you this.
We'll definitely have you back next year, but not so much the years after.
Or not even reply.
And then what do you think the next team would say that Steph called and goes,
you guys want to sign me up two years from now.
Do you think like, do you think when Tyler asked for that, the message said red at the time?
Just left about, left about red.
Never got answered.
I got a, I got to back Freddie up on this one because this is absolutely ridiculous.
This makes me not even.
This is ruining.
This isn't even racing when you use your cars like this.
I want to go and watch a good race.
Some people get spun out.
But the last thing I want to see is you do this afterwards.
that guy should be banned from that place for life,
but for doing that, not race.
You're not even racing.
If that's how you're going to act,
and I get it,
they said this is a second week in a row that he's been spun out.
Well,
you know,
there's better ways to you handle it differently than that.
This is like,
this isn't even short track racing.
And I love short track racing.
I mean,
it's where it all started.
So to see somebody use their car like this,
not go after him once,
but go after him twice.
And then,
and then get out.
And I don't know if it was a flagman or somebody takes you down, but that was kind of...
I didn't see that part.
You see the flagman run up to the car when he stopped and hit the window net with a flag
and then take the flagman reaches into the car, takes the wheel off and throws it to the passenger
side himself.
This is ridiculous.
So Dillner is the announcer there now, right?
He's like the flow announcer there.
He's a play by play guy.
So that guy's hard.
He compared himself to Dell Jr. yesterday on his Twitter.
I saw that.
I was like, come on.
Are you serious?
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, Del Jr. tweeted about how fun it was.
was to be the play-by-play guy at NBC, you know, obviously yesterday in the cup race.
And Dillner was like, man, as a peer to you as another play-by-play guy, man, I feel your pain,
man. It's hard. Congratulations on doing almost as good a job as I did at Beaum McGrath.
Like, Dillner, I just seen it this morning because I got in late last night. But he's like,
if you want me to explain to you what happened to you, I was like, you don't, I'm going to
tell them today when I get off of here, like, I don't care what happened. Like, there's no
explanation for destroying your race car or driving around that you'd feel. That's what I'm saying.
I mean, if you want to meet the pit area
and do get out of the guy, do that.
The problem with this is now, it's become so
ridiculous over there that it's
like it's expected. It's a gimmick. It's like, yes.
It's like if somebody gets turned around,
I have to go run into this guy. I have to drive
the wrong way on the racetrack and hit somebody.
Like this guy was completely out of control
doing this. You know what I mean? Like, he don't know.
There's people in the infield. There were cameras.
Like, you don't know. He's driving down the
backstretch with the nose half ripped off
already. And he's, the pieces
that are hanging off or hitting other cars. What if he
drives by a guy too close, swipes that guy's leg or something. I mean, he jerked that thing when he was
going the wrong way down the front straightaway. He harnes a hard right to try and hit that guy in the
infield. If he misses him, there's cameramen, there's safety workers in the infield behind this car.
I just, you know, like, it's just, it's very embarrassing. Every weekend, people go, that's short,
oh, that's the madhouse. That's short track racing. Now, that's not. Go to Riverhead. Go to Stafford.
That's racing. This is a circus. I went to Thunder Road on Thursday for a late model race with
Brad. It was a song, Garth Brooks rode about it.
What was that?
What was it?
No, you had, it was ACT?
Okay, I think it was an ACT.
Those guys, that track is very unique, first of all.
I've watched it for a couple of years now on Flow.
Great racetrack.
Very, very nice facility.
Way up in the hills of Vermont, zero cell phone signal.
But beautiful facility, but those guys,
we ran, we had like maybe two or three natural cautions.
One was a guy that spun out by himself.
They ran side by.
side and barely laid a fender on each other the whole race.
And I mean, it was one heat race.
The top four, 15 laps, never touch each other, finished first, second, third, and
fourth.
I think the guy on the outside beat him to the line, but 15 laps never touching each other.
That is, that's like when we went, we would go to this week.
You know, we'd go to Mahoning Valley a couple years ago to watch Austin race.
That's how Monhooning Valley is.
They run side by side the whole race.
It's a tiny little circle.
Like, that was, I've never seen, it's been a long time.
So I've seen a group of that many late models on a track like that
and have that much respect for each other and still race hard.
You know what I mean?
So that was very cool to see it.
I got a random text message like, what was that Thursday night?
You were raised?
I got a random text message Thursday night from Scott Tapley,
the series director for the race that TJ's at.
And he says, just tell T.J.
I said, thank you for listening.
So for the first time in T.
He listened to whatever somebody said.
And he got a call out from the race director.
Because did I tell you what happened with it?
Yeah, he did.
They start the lappers.
Did you know this, Brett?
Mm-hmm.
So if you're running, if you're running 23rd and you get lapped by the leaders and you're
fourth in line, when you go back green, you're starting P4.
They just start the lapar's right in where they were running with the leaders.
They used to do that.
Yeah.
And I'm like, we're not in there to ruin anybody's race or anything.
And this is a, I mean, it's a big race.
So we, I'm actually made eye contact with him when he's in.
I'm like, we're going to the back.
So, I mean, we didn't need to be involved in that top five.
do those guys are racing for a you know big win so but it was fun man i really enjoyed thunder road
that tour was super clean the drivers that were there we talk about redick earlier in the show
so this clown goes out and it goes to the first ever super late model race and he goes to lee speedway
which is difficult to race that's very very rough on tires you got to ride around a little bit
and save your stuff and loses by a bumper i mean yeah i don't know if anybody can appreciate
how talented some of these guys really are because i think you know bubba did that same
thing. Bubba ran and ran the short track
nationals at Bristol and dominated
that race. It's like these guys
are, you know, they race around each other all the time, but then they go
and jump in some one-off deal that they've
Tyler's never even seen he practiced the car that day
and then goes out there and damn near wins the race.
I mean, it's pretty ridiculous. Drew Herring and I
were talking about this on Saturday night. We were watching
SRX race together and it's like
the drivers
that get the most laps
just keep getting better.
Like who races more right now in NASCAR?
Who races the most of anybody?
Robbie Reddick.
Or Larson.
I mean, Kyle Arson.
Oh, yeah.
Rison.
Like, those are the guys that are badass right now.
Who races less now than he ever has and is running the worst that he ever has?
Kyle Busch.
He used to run everything during the week.
Truck race, Exfinity Race Cup, every single weekend.
Now he's not doing all that.
He's got two kids.
You know, he's out there.
He's running micros now.
He's out there chasing his boys' dreams.
But he's not getting all these laps he used to get.
And guess who's not as good as he once was?
I don't understand sometimes.
I know there's this whole protect your investment thing,
but sometimes I don't understand
why these owners don't just let these guys race
because I think it's what makes them better.
Speaking of the SRX, I think
give another shout out to Haley for
wheeling it. Wheeling that thing. She was doing awesome.
That in-car camera shot of her,
I could have watched that for an hour and a half.
She's driving the heck out of it, man. She was driving
running third. Huge fail on SRX
this part, though, when she had the motor problem.
Yeah, got up to second and then the way of the race.
Like if you're going to give her time
to fix her car, then stop the race.
don't just go out there and have this super long caution.
SRX screwed that part of it up.
It's cool to see her get in there and mix it up with the
great race track.
I want to go to that race track.
That's one of my favorite one.
The outlaws run there.
I think Sheldon wins there most of the time.
Him and Brad's,
Sheldon runs really good there because it usually ends up by the fan.
Hey, isn't that the track that we,
no,
that was, I-55 is Peely, right?
Isn't that the track Sheldon came back and won on?
Or was that some, no, that was somewhere else?
I don't know.
No, no.
Last couple weeks,
talking about? Yeah, no, that was uses. Oh, that's right, yes. Similar. Yeah. Very similar.
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with Denny Hamlin. Denny's the best. I really screwed Larson. Brett, you are still leading with six wins over Jason and Freddie.
in second with five.
TJ and third and...
You're last.
That's all the matters.
With three and I'm last
and I'd like to point out
it's not just me
because I didn't even pick last week
but they still lost.
So, not my fault.
Let's make Pigs for Pocono.
Brett, you're at first.
Man, I felt good
about my Loudon pick,
Amarola and then he had a problem.
I feel like I could have
certainly challenged Jason.
Sixth is not that great.
I think I could have
at least challenged him.
But my guy let me down.
My team let me down.
I've only got two options right here
because the most important thing at Pocono,
one of the most important things is horsepower.
You can't go to Pocono without a lot of horsepower.
And I only got two guys that I think have horsepower
inside of that helmet and under the hood.
It's Harvick and Kurt Busch.
I'm torn right here because Ford's been struggling
at some of these tracks.
But Harvick, I got to go Harvick.
I think I just wasted him, but I got to do it.
Denny Hamlin.
DJ.
If that was the old Pocon,
know it wouldn't even be close.
How many races we got left?
Six.
Yeah, you're screwed.
Damn.
Your list is shit.
My list is pretty bad right here.
Baliki heel.
David Reagan.
Garrett Smithley.
Cody Ware.
Let's go with,
I'm going to go Chase Briscoe.
I will take Chastain.
Alex Bowman.
Of course.
Chastain is having a record year.
Alex Bowman's on a roll right now.
good pick, Jason. I don't think he's
broken on Pocono. He did win last year.
I don't think he's broken a sweat in the last two weeks.
And I was listening to Greg Ives
on the morning drive this morning and they
sound like they have their shit together.
I was like Greg's a motivator.
I don't know if Hamlin has to even
charge his batteries this week.
He doesn't. He wrecked last week too.
Didn't they wrecked Atlanta?
Like fairly early? Yes. Yes, he did.
And Nashville for the
Ally 400. Oh yeah. Thank goodness.
I'm telling him. I'm telling him.
I mean, I had to charge his batteries this month.
I mean, Nashville was key, though, because it stormed and we had a place to go.
All right.
What can't?
How many times are we shifting at Pocono with this car?
I heard it's actually not as much.
I don't know.
The corner speeds are probably so high that they're not down shifting as much.
So across the tunnel, you're going to be ripping.
Yes.
I would imagine you're shifting probably.
Turn one, you'll be shifting.
Turn one.
The tire fall off there.
Yeah.
I don't know.
We'll see.
The tunnel turn could be pretty interesting because these cars run side by side much
better than like an Xfinity car or a truck.
So you know what I heard this week too.
Some guys went and tested Michigan, Drew, namely one of them,
which I was expecting to be kind of plate races.
Did he wreck?
No, he didn't.
He managed to not do that this time.
That's a first.
But, you know, a lot of off-troddle time, he said,
or maybe not completely off-throddle,
but I thought that was going to be easy, wide open, kind of, you know.
My fear there is the track width,
the groove with.
Yeah.
That's what I, that's what worries me about Michigan.
Imagine old Michigan wore out, tie.
Oh, that'd be so fun.
I got a feeling it's going to race a lot like a truck race there,
which I think even trucks were wide open.
But I was surprised to hear that they were back in almost coming all the way out of the throttle there.
So it would be interesting to see how that goes?
I'm excited for this weekend.
I mean, this is another track where it's easy to say it won't be exciting.
But every time we've said that, they have all kind of stuff go on.
I think it's going out.
Like Loudoun impressed me.
Me too.
I was impressed by it.
I was worried about it going in.
But even in the beginning,
we were holding Denny up really bad.
Like, Denny was better than us,
and he kept trying to pass us,
couldn't clear us,
and finally he tried to use us up on the cortex,
still couldn't do it.
Then he went into one who followed us
and just gave us a little nudge.
I mean, that's what you're supposed to do, right?
So that shows you that it can be done.
You know, and what do you do?
I mean, that guy did when he tried to pass,
he didn't make it,
and then what do he just did?
Yeah, he's barely, he didn't shut up a little bit.
I just think the draft on the front stretch here is unknown.
You know what I mean?
If these guys get tandem,
they're going to be flying.
and they get side by side,
the guy behind them is going to have a big run.
I think it's going to be cool.
I still wish they take the grandstands
and move them to the tunnel turn, though.
I think that's the most exciting part of that whole racetrack.
It's also my least favorite part,
probably my least favorite track to spot at.
Oh, my God.
Here in Phoenix.
Turn one.
What would be, if you could redo a spotter stand of Pocono,
where would you put it?
I don't even know where you'd put it.
I put a tunnel turn.
Put the high as you can put a tunnel turn.
Do you just put a pagode in the middle and get two people?
You'd have great angles,
to one, which we don't have.
You'd have great angles, exit of three, which we don't have.
Maybe that's a place we can try that hanging spotter stand.
No, I'm out.
Yeah, I think that's a good idea.
I quit.
Do it.
I quit.
I'm not doing that, ever.
Million dollars to do a race, and I don't think I could do it.
I'd do eight of them right now.
I mean, I guess if I took enough Xanax and drank Crown Royal, I probably could.
It'll be strapped in.
It'll be fine.
Nah.
There's no way I could do that.
For a million dollars?
It'll just be a little.
I don't think I could.
All right.
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Yeah.
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Thank you for the, what was it?
Golf balls.
Two dozen to 24.
24 dozen golf balls.
So, that's not right?
No, 12 dozen. I forget what you said.
I don't know.
Thank you for the golf balls.
We will need more next week.
Yeah. If we go golfing today.
All right.
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See y'allel out of Pocono.
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