Door Bumper Clear - 261 - Pocono: Lift or Wreck

Episode Date: July 25, 2022

Brett Griffin, Freddie Kraft and T.J. Majors return from Pocono Raceway after a weekend filled with action-packed racing. Brett explains why he allegedly was suspended from Door Bumper Clear and shares a story about a bartender having a crush on a certain spotter. Then, they discuss Ty Gibbs filling in for Kurt Busch after having concussion symptoms and why it’s important for drivers to make their health a priority.Spot On, Spot Off starts with the spotters discussing Ross Chastain wrecking after racing Denny Hamlin for the lead on a late restart. They explain why Chastain could have avoided wrecking and potentially stole the win. Then, they debate if Hamlin is even with Chastain.Hamlin and Kyle Busch were disqualified after finishing 1-2 in the Cup Series race. Find out the cause of the disqualification and if NASCAR should change their inspection process to start looking for similar infractions.Next, Kyle Busch had a cold reaction to Joe Gibbs after the race on Sunday following a week of chatter regarding his contract negotiations. The guys react to Toyota’s comments and why they feel Busch was being disrespectful to his team owner. Brett leads the discussion of why Busch only has two realistic options if he wants to keep driving for a top-level team next year. Denny Hamlin said 23XI Racing will hire its own pit crew members for next year instead of leasing crews from JGR. The gang discusses whether or not this is the best business decision for Hamlin to make.Then, a leaked document indicates NASCAR is planning a demonstration using prototype electric vehicles before next year’s Clash at the LA Coliseum. The crew questions how long electric cars would hold up at big tracks, how quickly will they be implemented, and which series would run them.With the Indianapolis Motor Speedway Road Course coming up next, the guys revisit Kevin Harvick’s comments about how the road course is “terrible for our sport.” They talk about why the oval configuration should get another chance and if they should run a different aero package to do so.Finally, the spotters react to Austin Dillon’s comments about having TJ as his spotter for the Indy Xfinity Series race. They discuss Brandon Brown having to step out of his car to sell sponsorship and how the “Let’s Go Brandon” ordeal has negatively affected the team’s finances. In Reaction Theatre, hear fan reactions to Noah Gragson throwing up and then chugging a beer after his victory, whether or not Hamlin purposely wrecked Chastain, and the top two finishers getting disqualified.Later in the show, T.J. answers a call from a big name former driver who has a few questions for the guys after the dramatic weekend at Pocono.Thank you to our presenting sponsor Offerpad and partners Xfinity and RacingUSA.com for making this show possible. Want more DBC? Check out and subscribe to the new DBC YouTube channel! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Yo, what's up? You're listening to Door Bumper Clear presented by Offutt, and I'm Freddie Craft. We're fresh back from Pocono with a lot to cover. We'll talk Danny Hamlin versus Ross Chastain, the top two finishes being disqualified, Kyle Bush's contract negotiations, and T.J. Spotting for Arrival at Indy Roadcourse. And Dale Jr. calls in for a minute. Jason, let's roll. Nobody's listening, but I don't care. I'm on an episode of Door Bumper Clear. Hey everybody, I'm T.J. Major's, the six-cup car, the one truck, and the 60-80-xfinity car. Good job.

I did not read that on a piece of paper. Good job. I just muted. So I'm muted me. His mic. He's not. He's suspended. Oh.

Oh. Oh. Well, he appealed his suspension. It's still under appeal. It's still under appeal. So he gets to come back this week. Maybe. Maybe.

And Jason, if you want to turn his mic back on, you can. We can take a group vote. Casey with your vote Test I vote Keep it off And I count for five What'd you say

I can't hear you I don't know my mic's back on yet Who are you? I Finally And that's back on again Do it all show That's a new mute button

But I'm all the power Unlike TJ majors I actually Share the show On social media And so Last week I forgot.

So I made a joke that I wasn't definitely suspended by Mike Davis for not sharing the show. And people thought I was being serious. And TJ texts me and he's like, boy, you've really got these people going. Especially that one. No. Right there. And he screenshotsed it. I did not say, is it true?

I said, what was the deal with your tweet? No. No. You said before I'm too gullible, what was going on with your tweet? And I said, who tweets that? Honestly. What did I say? What did I say? Too late.

Literally who tweets? I've been suspended. When you hit send, you're already done. When you hit send, you're done. I was going to send it to you, TJ, because I feel like you'd be nice and then. Well, you didn't send it to me though. So don't, you can't get, you can't. I didn't have anything to do with it.

So you can't say that. Can you mute him? No, TJ's not suspended. Yeah. Geez. I love how people picked up on when I text you back, bless your heart. The worst. You can't just be nice and like

I mean, did you just meet him? Well, I thought maybe I was gonna give him a benefit of the doubt. Usually when he's drunk though. Y'all do intro, we don't know who y'all are. If I catch him out of a good time, he's drunk during the day and he'll be super nice. Like that one, the one text that he said, like,

oh, we should do his shirt like, you know, Casey, Queen of DBC. Like obviously drunk, so I thought maybe. Queens. Well, I got news for you. He's drunk right now. So maybe you can take advantage of the fact that I'm going to tell you something.

I don't know what happened last night, but I'm struggling. Brett laughed harder than I've ever seen Brett laugh in my entire life last night at our good friend Kyle from at Big Al's. Kyle at Big Al's is my probably fourth favorite bartender. Fourth favorite? Marge is my favorite. I never see her anymore. Rose is my second favorite.

The fact that you know all these bartenders is amazing. By name. And Jess is my third favorite. Jess from Big Alas. Yeah. And then Kyle's my fourth favorite. Well, Kyle has a crush on Douglas. He doesn't call him Doug.

He calls him Douglas. And Kyle. Douglas. Kyle openly admitted last night that he has a crush on Douglas. Are you talking? I don't know if he admitted he had a crush on Douglas, but he was looking forward to seeing Douglas. I could say that much. We're talking about, uh, was Baldwin,

call him. Sperm. He calls him sperm. Kyle, thank God Kyle doesn't know that. No, we don't need Kyle to know that. All right, let's intro.

But I'll tell you, I got the big house last night at 11.30. And Kyle sits down with us. And again, Kyle's my fourth favorite bartender. So one of my favorite people. I don't have any of people in my life.

And Kyle starts telling the stories and I am crying laughing at this guy. I mean, crying. Like, what kind of story? That's not suitable. Kyle had been drinking at the pool since 12 o'clock. A lot of good stories. Kyle wasn't working.

Kyle was not working. No, no, Kyle was not working. So Kyle went to his place of work to get. He looked like he was in the Tommy Bahama catalog. I'm going to tweet a picture of Kyle. Meet Kyle and Freddie right now. But, yeah, so anyway, Brett, Parker. You can just tweet that Kyle's coming on DVC today.

There's no chance. Kyle's alive today. Yeah. But if you tweet, Kyle's come on DBC today, that it's open for interpretation. Yeah, then we'll just say Kyle. We won't say who. Yeah.

Kyle's going to be on DBC today. Oh, but Tommy Bahama Kyle here. I'll tell you one story that Kyle told us that we, this we can share and this is one that made Brett cry laughing. Kyle, um, has some piercings maybe on his chest somewhere. And, that we know about.

And somehow his bracelet got caught on his one ring and ripped it out. And he rips his titty off. Yeah. And he said, he's trying to tell the story about how bad it was,

but he's so drunk, you can't help but laugh the entire time. And Brett was, I mean, it was ugly, ugly, but anyway. Let's start the show now.

Yeah. How about I'm, I am still. Phil, Freddie Craft, spotter for Bubba Wallace, Derek Krauss, Lannett Castle this week. Did you ever say

who the hell you were? Do we need to know? I mean, no introduction needed. So, it's moving on. Hey, guys, Casey Boat here. I'm very excited, Jason found the mute button for...

What's a button? There's teasing button. I'm very excited. Jason knows how to mute. There's also no A and Mac B. Thank you. Jason. Hello.

Hey, Talleretic. Driver number. great car had a good run yesterday. Did you win again this week? I've seen some tweets. I think I win every week at this point. So, you know, he's what it is. I get, I get tweets all the time. He did it again and it's a picture of that 35 car in Victory Lane. Yeah. Best there ever was. Best there ever is. On it. You need, where does that guy race? Somewhere like up in PA or New Jersey or something. I'm really thinking Jason needs to make a road trip one weekend and go watch this guy race. Film content and bring it back. Jason Schultz. They said a shirt or something, right? Yeah. Yeah. They sent us a shirt or

son Jay's in a shirt. This one guy wins. At least one of them. They did. Somebody on this show wins. At least Freddie's carrying the weight these days, finished in top 10, two weeks in a row. Yeah, yeah, solid.

Well, I don't really know who. A few more DQs and I'll be there. I know. I don't really know, like, is it still Chase Elliott who won this morning or has that changed yet? The Golden Boy. I know. Ironic, right?

Hey, he's, how many times have, have we said Jimmy Johnson was lucky. You know what I mean? Somebody said he had a horseshoe stuck up his ass or something. I mean, he would spin out by himself a lot and then drive back to the front. So, but what's the saying? Sometimes you'd rather be lucky than good. Yep.

So. Well, besides everything we are about to talk about, which is pretty much the entire race, I want to know how y'all did this weekend. What do you mean? What do you mean? I mean, on track, off track. Well, the truck race was exciting. The track the whole time I felt like I was there.

Oh, my gosh. It was the longest day I've had and they felt, what, three years? It's a long day. Friday was a long day. I didn't have to do anything on Friday, so it wasn't that long time. I had the Archer Race. I was at Woody's Drive. Why would you sign up to do an Archer Race?

Because a buddy of mine from where I grew up, Andy Jane Cowiac. Who? Andy Jay, listen, dude. No, what was his last name? Jen Cowiac. We just call him Jay from here on out. You're asking T. but the guy, other guy next to you, spots for pretty much like everything possible.

I mean, for now. Well, we got caught up in a wreck. So I actually got out of it before they called the race for darkness, which happened. Let's talk about that for a minute. Yes. I was waiting for. That was all my list. Please, please.

Let's start. How long is they lap around? It's a minute. Pin it. Pocan up. Mid-50s. Yeah. It's a minute.

Essentially a minute. It's a minute and a half. for some of them idiots. So the race is going to go, yes. The race is going to go green at 645, I believe it was. It started. And it's 80 laps. So that's 80 minutes.

That's longer than the truck race. Oh, yeah. It's 20 laps longer. Well, not really by the time they got done with it. It was about the same. But you got 80 minutes, 80 minutes of just green flag time. If the race goes green to checker, that's 80 minutes, which you know it's not because I think they had at least one planned stage break.

I don't know. Did they have two? 30. 30. So it was just one, right? It was two. It was two? 30 and 60.

Okay. So that's another 15, 20 minutes. So now you're at nine o'clock, I would say. Like, who dreamt this idea? It's like, I think sundown was like little like eight teens. Like something. Yeah, it wasn't late. So I mean, I don't like, whoever drew that plan up, great idea.

Yeah, that's not. You're banking on it. And you know the Archer race is going to have a red flag. They cannot help themselves. And it's usually going to have an oil down at some point. It's just, yeah, that was really good planning. When I saw the start of that race, I was like, that's a little. And the best part about it was, did you see the rain plan?

Yes, 10 o'clock Sunday morning or 10.30 Sunday morning. It was going to be in Sunday morning. So the Arka guys were going to have to stay two nights. Yeah. Go find hotel rooms, you guys. And usually Pocono has some sort of missed, like at least. They had a torrential downpour on Friday. But thankfully it was early enough to where they still got the start.

It stormed. Like there was a tornado watch or something. Yeah, they cleared the grandstands for a tornado watch. Yeah. But that was a good plan. I thought that was a good plan. Arc race was exciting. I saw another car that was 70 miles an hour off the pace,

get in front of the leaders and the tunnel turn and cost the guy the lead. So that would make me very angry. What tremendously though a great weekend of racing like across the board outside of ARCA everything else was the finish of the Xfinity race was incredible like double-headed Iowa for Andy Carr F1 race was crazy with Ferrari throwing it away and then obviously I don't know that I've ever seen two races Xfinity Cup races at Pocono better than what we saw this weekend I don't think Ferrari threw it away they were both good I mean they kind of did wow the guy's wrecked Leclair threw it away he wrecked exactly threw it away. Yeah, Ferrari didn't throw it away. Ferrari screwed up to one guy. It was a calculated risk, and he miscalculated. But no, the end of the exfinity,

credit to those two guys, I feel like we've given both of these guys some grief on the show we have through the years. And Noah and Ty Gibbs put on a show, that last lap. And Noah, the move he made into the tunnel turn on the last lap was wrecker or checker.

Oh, it was either going to stick or he, yeah. Like he's either he's going to get down on him. He's going to wreck or he's going to win. And credit to him, he made it stick. He won the race. And at the same time, credit to Ty, because Ty kind of drove in there and it seemed like we've talked about Ty maturing on this show for the last couple weeks.

And I think Ty Gibbs of 2020 or 21 probably sends it in there just as hard as Noah and they probably both wreck off the tunnel turn. I mean, it could be even early 2022, Ty, because he was doing everything. this year. It wasn't that long ago. So, you know, credit to him for not, you know, he was in the, he was in a vulnerable position getting into the tunnel there.

Noah kind of had control of what each of those cars was going to do. And if Ty wanted to ship it in there, they would have wrecked. Ty, I don't think at that point really had much of a chance at winning. And he was either he was going to wreck or finish second. And to his credit, he did the smarter thing and didn't wreck his race car and came home second. Because if he wrecks right there, then it's just back, right back to, oh, this kid don't give a shit about nobody. He's just going to run everybody over.

so he race as hard as he could. And his post race interview was great too. And I mean, I have to say I was very impressed with him yesterday making his first Cup series start too. Two great race car drivers. I mean, Noah Gregson and Ty Gibbs both belong in the Cup series. How he say Noah's last name? Which one?

It's Gregson. I've already messed it up. I've already messed it up. But Noah, like Noah is one of those personalities that we need in Cup. I mean, outside of Kyle Bush, there's not like, this big personality. And Noah could 100% get to the Cup Series and be that if you run

well enough to be that. You can't show up and run 20th. But Ty I mean, we all know how good Ty Gibbs is. He's won a lot of races and Exfinity. Throne to the Wolves this weekend, he found out on Saturday night at 11 o'clock that he was running the cup race on Sunday. That's when he found out.

So it's not like between 11 o'clock and 14 hours later, you're going to make some great gains as a race car driver to be ready to make her cup debut in a car a you've never sat in raced in the seat doesn't fit the pedals aren't for your height i mean he showed up with a car that wasn't built for him and i think you found out a little earlier than that 11 o'clock 11 o'clock on saturday night he was at the sim at i thought he was at the sim at yeah he didn't find out 11 o'clock on sunday night the race was over i thought you said sunday morning he didn't go to sim he was at his own sim he was making laps on he didn't go to toyota sim you can't you don't have time to do much

nothing. I mean, you raced all day. It was hot. I mean, Noah puked and rallied after his win. He pukes. He pukes. And then he shot guns a beer. Is that? But that's normal. That's like every race, I feel like for Noah. It is for him. I don't know why that is, but it is. He isn't like beer. Yeah. Maybe he should be switching the white clause in victory lane then. Maybe. But Ty Gibbs, shout out to him. I mean, look, it was very obvious when the race started, he was uncomfortable. It was very obvious that he was lost. They were pitting. They pitt. They pitt. every yellow, every time they got a chance they were on paper. They probably were trying to get the guy not to fall out of the seat literally,

physically, but he struggled. I mean, he was literally the only cars he was out running was Cole Custer, bless that guy's heart, and the B.J. McLeod and Rick Ware cars. That's the only thing Ty Gibbs outran the first half of the race. Once it looked like he got comfortable, he got a little bit of track position, he came to life. And listen to me, there's no reason Ty Gibbs should be running last in that race, if he's comfortable.

There's no chance he was comfortable. But once he was kind of in the seat and had been in the race long enough to realize, all right, this is what I've got, he comes out for an 18th place debut, which is pretty phenomenal. Technically 16th now. Was it 16th? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. He finished 18th, but he's rewarded with 16th. Very, very solid day for him.

First cup start. He was going to run 15th, and he got loose off of turn 1 and allowed two guys to catch him, and then they got around him on a last. I mean, I can't really say that. Maybe them other guys got loose before him. But like he, you know, he was a solid day. He did everything he was supposed to do. Like, don't, like really, nobody knew you're out there essentially, you know, kind of like what we say about everybody.

Just quiet day. Very similar to Zane, when Zane filled in for the 17. I think Zane had a good. Finished right around the same spot. I think he was like 16th or 17th also. Yeah, I think it was too. So it's two guys that are probably, you know, they deserve to be in the Cup series.

And they showed you when they come out there that they can do stuff like that. This is something you don't think about. a lot as an owner. I mean, even if you look at us as spotters, right? We don't have replacements that are ready to go. If something happens in another sport, there's somebody there to come off the bench to take your spot. But when you look at Kurt Bush, you know, obviously he failed concussion protocol.

There's not, I mean, who are you going to pick from? John Hunter Nemechek, Ty Gibbs, Brandon Jones. Where do you go after that? Brandon Jones wrecks every week. I wouldn't pick that guy. I mean, it was essentially, there was a rumor. So listen, this hit by Kurt was, is not the biggest hit we've ever seen, obviously. But Kurt has had at least three massive hits this year.

You know, he had a big hit at Bristol earlier in the year. He followed that up like the week after with a big hit at Talladega at the start, finish line at the end of the race. And then just a couple weeks ago in Atlanta, he was the, he was the wall for Corey the Joy. when Corey got turned back across, he took a massive hit there. The first Atlanta, he ranked hard. And there were, yeah, yeah. And then there was some rumors after Atlanta that John Hunter might have to fill in

because, you know, you just wasn't feeling great. It was a hard hit. So, you know, when I heard the news Saturday morning, I had heard Kurt was out on Sunday morning. And then I assumed there was going to be John Hunter. I saw John Hunter in the trailer on Sunday morning. And then they said it announced it was going to be Thai. So I was like, oh, that's interesting.

but yeah so that was you know John Hunter was there ready to go okay I guess Ty was having a flyback because he was here home yeah so he was having a flyback so I guess John Hunter was there for security for Ty if Ty didn't make it back Sunday morning but yeah so they those are the guys they're choosing from it was either going to be John Hunter or Ty this is the other piece of the concussion deal and listen to me when I say this health before competition right health before competition I would rather see a guy have the rest of his life to be healthy than to risk it to go run a race that he's not physically or mentally or emotionally or whatever capable of doing.

And we, listen to me, I have seen these guys in physical shape to where they didn't need to race. And guess what they did? They still raced. I know drivers that ran races that they literally do not remember running because of hits that happened on Friday or Saturday. I know guys that raced on Sunday that were out to lunch on Monday and fell out of the booth in the restaurant. all right that was a long time ago now we have a lot of concussion protocols but there was a lot of talk amongst the drivers about kurt because there was a different doctor doing his concussion tests and according to the drivers that I spoke to and this is not just one driver it's multiple drivers

the test were different so now there's a lot of talk amongst the drivers because you know when this thing first came about the baseline testing and the you know you've been in a you're out there competing, your heart rate's 150 beats a minute, you're in a massive wreck, you have a headache from the wreck, you roll into the care center, you're pissed off, and the first thing a doctor does, after he checks your vitals, it puts a test in front of you. And you've got to pass this test. You've got to do all these things to say, okay, I'm mentally astute to be okay. Well, the first thing that Clint was worried about, and I'll call him out by name, Clint Boyer's worried about, was, hey, I'm mad. What gives me the right to be able to focus right now and pass

all these tests? So what the drivers are talking about? talking about yesterday was, hey, what are these new tests? And is there a baseline for these new tests? So those guys were a little bit freaked out in terms of what if I don't, what if I'm in a wreck and I'm simply mad and I don't get cleared? Why was it a different doctor? I don't know. I can't speak to that. You know, obviously I wasn't in the care center or wherever that Kurt was evaluated, but it was a different doctor than what they typically see. So there was some concern there on a driver's standpoint. And I think to your point, too, like talking about, you know, taking your health into, you know, putting your health as a priority, you know, when you, as we've seen throughout

the years in all kinds of sports, when you get a concussion, it's a lot easier to get another concussion. You know, it seems like I had a Timmy Salamito's a kid that I work with in the modified series and he had a big wreck at the Atlantic City indoor race and he got a concussion. I mean, he had a severe concussion. And then he sat out a little while, came back race probably, I I don't know, four or five months later and just kind of, you know, you had a pretty hard hit to the wall of Thompson, but not, didn't look like it was overly, you know, something you'd be like, oh, wow, that was big. Another concussion.

Like, so it's like once you, like if you don't give yourself the proper time to rest and heal up, it's going to continue to happen. And who knows if he maybe had a concussion and it went overlooked earlier in the year. And now this, you know, smaller hit just kind of triggers it again. But hopefully they take the time and get him right. You know, what, what's kind of tough for Kurt is he's right there in that bubble of one, win guys that kind of are defending their spots. It's like him, Briscoe,

Suarez, Cindrick. Nobody really wants to be that last guy in points with one win because if a couple of guys, you know, go and pop some wins off here, then you're out all of a sudden out of the playoffs. Well, just imagine yesterday, right? If you're Tyler Reddick, you finish fourth in this race when you cross-start finish line, you were racing for the win against Chase Elliott.

You didn't know it. Look at Bubba Wallace. This guy ran top four all day. Look at Kevin Harvick. He was running fourth when he got wrecked. Those guys with this disqualification, qualification could have been your 15th winner. Yeah. And like another point to that, we were talking about how exciting Daytona is going to be as the last race.

All these guys, the Bubba Wallace's, the Eric Jones, anybody kind of behind Blaney and points, like you're cheering just as hard to not see more winners because if there's 16 winners when we get to Daytona, it does us no good to win a race. Like it does,

we'd be, we'd win, but we'd never get in the playoffs because we're so low in points. There are other guy, Eric Jones, whoever else, you know, if there's 16 winners when we go to Daytona, essentially all the guys without a win are out, unless it's, you know, Blaney or somebody goes and wins. How many labs you think Chase Elliott won yesterday, Casey?

How many labs you think he led en route to his victory? None. None. When does that ever happen? That's it. Yeah. I seen a funny tweet last night. Somebody said the last lap Chase Elliott led was at Sharon Motor Speedway on Saturday night.

Hey, it's that chase, that mustache. That mustache. He's rocking's working. Oh. I was, I'm really just, you know, I know we'll probably talk about, oh, wait, I just wait a minute. So back to Kurt quickly, as far as next steps go with the concussion protocol, has he, will he continue to be tested until, leading up to Indy? Yeah, he's got to get cleared.

You know, I'm sure, you know, I would hope, hopefully, hopefully he's smart enough to, to not force the issue, but I don't think a doctor will just clear him anyway. So he's got to, he'll go through the protocol. this week of whatever it is to just go back and see the doctor, take those tests. And essentially what they do is a baseline test before the season starts of, you know, not when you're fine because you, how do you think you do on that test? Terrible.

I heard a driver. I'm not going to name any names. There's a driver out there that they did this baseline test in December, whatever, January, February, before the season starts. They do it before the season starts because they know or hope you haven't hit your head recently. And the driver did the baseline test. and then he had a big wreck somewhere.

And he was like, I am, I am concussed. He's like, but somehow I got a better score on the test this time than I did in February. So they're not going to kick me out, I guess. And that goes back to drivers taking care of themselves at the same time. Like the guy knew he had a concussion, but he's like, I'm going to keep racing. I have to. I mean, concussions are, they got to be common around here because your brain is bouncing off of your skull. When you hit a wall at 150, 180, 190 miles an hour, how can you not have it?

freaking brain bounce off your school. Chad had a huge wreck, like wrecked 15 times into like a light pole or something. He was, I mean, noticeably different, like for at least two weeks after. And he couldn't race. He was supposed to make his Indy Lights debut. And he knew, like constant headaches,

light was sensitive. Like, you know a lot of times if you have a concussion. And like, it is up to the drivers too, because to your point, like those tests can be, I mean, you can feel that test sober, ready, but or, or do better when you're drunk. You don't know? Yeah.

I mean, I saw, I flew home with David Ruderman after his really bad wreck in Fontana. I remember Reed Sorensen on the team playing after he wrecked somewhere really bad. Flew back with Casey after Pocono. Yeah. Oh, yeah. They replayed that during their race, too. I mean, it's just, you know, obviously I flew home with L.A.

a ton. Like, there were points in times where you knew that those guys weren't, they weren't okay. But guess what they did? They strapped in the car. week. That's why I'm saying I'm a huge fan of this because of health before competition. Kurt's not a young ducklin out there. I mean, he's 40, what, five? How old's Kurt Bush? Yeah, I would say he's four. I mean, I'm 47 and he got here when I was in my low 20s. So, I mean, he's got to be around my age.

Like, man, that guy, and these guys have this terrible disease. Me and Freddie talk about this. if you're Casey Kane, why are you still racing? You had a concussion. You came back and you raced. You won. Your body got to the point that it wouldn't cool itself down. And then you mess up your artery in your neck.

What's that artery? That main artery in your neck. He killed himself there. Cyan nerve? I don't know. That's in your ass. It's not in your neck. It's a cartyroid artery or something.

Carotid carot. That one. I can't say that. I already said. But like this guy, I mean, I literally, I told Casey this, why are you still racing? Like, why? It's a terrible disease. They cannot quit. I just, I'm glad that somebody, I'm glad that NASCAR has us in a position. And look, it sucks, man. Kurt's got all these sponsors. He's got the playoffs on the line. He's got all these things that he's racing for. But your health still matters over competition. And it's hard when you're a driver because you think all that matters in my world.

us putting his helmet on on Sunday. It's not all it matters. Yeah. I, uh, forty three. Oh, so he's, oh man, a little younger. He's got a several years left. And that's, this is the weird thing too. And this sucks because obviously him retiring has now come up. They've signed Tyler Reddick. How much longer are you going to race? That's out there. Kirk kind of started talking about it in the last week. And then this freaking happens.

Um, yeah, I'm glad, uh, you know, that the right steps were taken to keep him safe. Um, Freddy, how'd you doing the truck race? I forget 8th, 9th, something like that. He was battling for that last playoff spot. Yeah, we kind of ran our race trying to beat craft it in points

and then we had to flip mid-race because we weren't going to beat them in points and try to race for the win a little bit but we didn't, we had a pretty quiet, quiet day. We had a pretty cool. You were what in the hell were you guys doing out there? When? The whole race.

How'd you get lapped in Pocono? With two flat tires. Jesus. And we, so. And they almost wrecked the leaders when they were laughing at it. That's because that went down into one, right? Like, isn't that how, like, doesn't it seem to work like that?

Like, we're just, all right, stay low out of the way. And then it just takes off. And I'm like, oh, no. Oh, no. But yeah, so we get, we got in a little bit of a wreck earlier with Todd Bodine. Oh, oh, yeah. So. You want to talk about that?

Yeah. Like, so I watch. T.J. Todd's last start when I would have bang, thanks to T.J. 800 starts. Eight hundred starts for the ballheaded, cue ballhead, fool or whatever his nickname was. And then T. ended his career. Ended it.

They said he might run one more now. I bet he will. He's probably coming for you. Probably. You get rid the spot for him. We're, uh, you know, at Pocono, you go into one. They're, you don't know how many wide they are until they get to the, basically the middle of the corner almost or, you know, or until they're aimed to the other way.

If you're ever listening to a radio and you hear a spotter say, hold your line, it means we have no, you don't know. You don't know. You don't know. Let me tell you something. If you listen to a radio at Pocono and you hear a spot or spotting into turn one, they are lying. He's lying. He's lying.

He's lying. so we turn off in there and we're too wide entering the corner and the guy in front of us slides up there's already a guy inside Todd drives through the middle of us so we get to four wide and Haley's trying driving off the guy on the outside in front of her and they're too wide so it just ran out of room and he was at our door on the inside and just it spun him so but you know just poking old stuff whatever it's not like she was like oh there he is I'm going to hit him no Like, Pocono was packed. Oh, yeah.

Well, we'll get to that too. That infield was packed. You got to hear this. So I'm listening to Todd's interview and he totally, he destroyed her at Texas on the last lap. I remember that. And then he's like, I didn't wreck her at Texas. What did you do? Because we were on the, did you see it?

I remember you tell me. Literally, we're just running the second lane in the grip and he goes into one and just drives up and enters that lane as well and carries us both to the wall. So the truck needs a front, a right side and a rear. and he raped you I've seen somebody do that yesterday yeah I'm team Haley anyway so listen he says he doesn't wreck her there and then he talks about her

saying you just need to know when to lift and not put yourself in a bad spot he was behind us entering turn one or decided to drive three wide I'm wondering who entered the bad spot right here there's Haley clearly Todd said so are you like how do you preach say to do that then you're you're the one

forcing the issue here like are you jumping ahead to one idiot I mean, do you want to do it now? Is this your what an idiot for the week? Sure. I didn't even think about that, but yeah, I'll give it to him. How do you just contradict? Like, you got to know when to lift,

but I'm going to drive three wide into one. And when we wreck, it's on you, not me. Good job. And I didn't wreck you at Texas, which is absolutely the driver's fault. You know that. You absolutely went from the bottom to the grip strip in Texas

and all way to the wall in our left door. That's wrecking you. Good job. Okay, keep going. I'd like to thank Bojan. angles for the delicious biscuit that we had. Me too. I was a lifesaver. I was late this morning with a get mine one way out.

Casey ate it. You ate my biscuit? Sorry, not sorry. I'm wondering if Casey's been reading Oh God. Been reading weird novels because she's wearing this choker. Let's move on. Can they still call that thing a choker?

Let's hear a little bit more about our incredible presenting sponsor. Hey, when it comes to buying or selling your home, there's only one place to do it at. And that's what our friends at OfferPad. They provide an easy home selling experience unlike anything you've experienced before. It does not take much to get started, Freddie. Simply log on Offerpad.com and fill out the five-minute form about your home and your big-ass couch. He does have a big-ass couch. You'll answer some other basic questions about your home. Submit it to Offerpad and their real estate experts will get to work. Offerpad will send you a cash offer to your

inbox within 24 hours. Then you have full control on your next move. If you take that cash, offer. Offerpad provides lots of perks. You can sell without listing. There are no showings. You pick your own closing day and the option for a free local move. That quick cash offer offer offer offer offer. Make it a no-brainer when it comes to selling your home. Do it and do it with Offerpad. We're heading to race in Indianapolis this weekend where OfferPad has a market. If you live in the area or want to make a move or if you live elsewhere and want to make a move to Indy, use Offer Pan. When asked where you heard about OfferPad, select the NASCAR option so they though we sent you.

Spot on, spot off. It goes like this. Spot on means you agree. I'm spot on. Are you joking me? He's lost his mind. Oh, and by the way, no one ever seems to agree. And then spot off means you disagree.

Spot off. Here we fucking go. This is the dumbest thing I've ever heard. But if you're T.J. Um, uh, uh, uh, there's only one. correct answer. I don't know. It's time for spot on, spot off. All right. First topic in spot on, spot off. Ross Chastain, Rex after Denny Hamlin side, wait. What do you think about them lights? Now you screwed me. I did not screw you. Look at those lights. What do we call those lights?

Spot on, spot off. Ross Chastain Rex after raising Denny Hamlin side by side for the lead on a late restart RIP to my DBC picks. Thanks Denny. Spot on, spot off. Brett. I think that Ross is wearing the same shirt you're wearing and he's got a choker on because I didn't see anywhere in this replay and I wasn't watching this live because I was running for 50th in the back of this cup race.

But I didn't see anywhere in this replay where Denny wrecked or sent Ross Chastain into the wall. I saw a replay where Denny. where Denny ran him high. I saw a replay where Ross drove into the wall. I don't know how you credit Denny Hamlin with this wreck. Like TV, Marty Schneider, who I think is an awesome guy. Denny, are you even with Ross?

No, you're not even. He wrecked you twice. You ain't wrecked him yet based on the replay I saw. But look, I mean, I'm spot on for the racing. They're racing really hard for the lead. Did Denny run him higher than he would have ran a teammate? 100%. Denny running in the fence, 100% not.

I mean, props to Denny's response. Freddie, what do you think? I mean, so. He's great. Blah, blah, blah. Yeah. That's why. Listen, kind of to Brett's point, I mean, they made slight contact at the entry

of the corner. Super. And then Denny was going. Danny was, I'm sure, of the mindset that I am going to run Ross out of room and he's going to have to lift or wreck. And Ross decided to wreck, apparently. You know, I don't know. like you kind of have to see that coming, especially the guy that's next to you, you know,

has made it very obvious and maybe, you know, more so in the driver chat than anywhere else that he is going to wreck the one car at some point and or at least threatening to wreck the one car. So if you're even with this guy through turn one and he starts coming up, good chances. He's not going to leave you enough room if he doesn't want to. And that's kind of what it looked like to me. It didn't look like a blatant door slam into the wall or nothing like that. It was just Denny saying, I'm going to run you at a race track. And if you want to stay out there and wreck, be my guess. But this is where we're going.

And then Ross stayed in the throttle and kind of drove straight in the fence on exit of one and wiped out the four and a couple. And I don't think he got anybody else. But it didn't, I mean. Christopher hit the wall. Danny, Christopher didn't get the fence. I hurt your feelings. TJ, spot on, spot off.

I'm, I got multiple issues right here. You can say that again. I have multiple things about this. Let's hear it. Why are you so nice about it? Danny, why are you so nice? I mean,

that was like as gracious as you could be like, look, I'm really, you're just going to lift or you're going to hit the wall. I mean, that's so nice of him to be like that. I mean,

he could have wrecked him straight up. He could just door slam him straight and a fence and been done with it. Yes. So it was very nice. But then he still finish is higher than you. that's a real so like what a perfect storyline

I know and it just gets ruined then it just totally erases everything but I did think it was I mean if that was the the nicest payback that you could give somebody I mean it was he literally just said look you're you're just you're going to lift or you're going to hit the wall I'm not really going to wreck you

but I'm going to put you in a position to basically give me the leader you're going to wreck and and he did a great job at that which which is um I was expecting more fireworks out of it than that, but, you know, I think, I think Denny got a point across and showed us how much, you know, Ross had a choice to make right there,

and he could have lifted and probably finished top five in that race still. Only thing Ross has done wrong all year is pissed off a bunch of people. He's got A.J. Ammoninger mad at him. He's got Joy Lugano mad at him. He's got Denny Hamlin mad at him. I'm sure I could keep going. So think about this. But when you look at Ross Chastain,

he is A, the biggest surprise of the year. B, he's sitting going into the race on two wins. That's 10 playoff points. Second end points. There's 10 more playoff points. Like he's sitting there pretty much locked in to going to round three of this playoff base. Not many playoff points he is and how fast he is.

So we've got a guy who came out of nowhere in my mind into this Cup series. A, he can drive. B, he's a guy. having worked with him on the sponsorship side, he will do everything a sponsor asks him to do. If you call him a day and say, Ross, man, we need you to drive to Florida. It's seven hours and do a 15-minute autograph session.

He'll literally feel like he's got to tell you, yes. You don't get that out of these guys at the Cups series. Very soft-spoken. So very humble guy, hard-working blue-collar guy. His family's... And when he's got a Rick, you to win, guess what? He'll do it.

Like, he's like a Dale Earnhardt, nice guy. Dale Earnhard is not a nice guy on a racetrack. If you listen to the Tid Norris and Dell Jr. podcast, you don't even know if Del Jr. is a nice guy, period. I mean, Dale Earnhardt's a nice guy period. When you're kicking Tid Norris in the knee when you know you got a torn ACL. I mean, like he's a, Dale Earnhardt's a tough son, I don't think Ross is that guy.

But on the racetrack, he drives a lot like Dale Earnhard did. And yesterday, Denny made him his . Jeez, dang. He did. Ross wrecked himself. What I was going to say there is think about. about this. Ross lets him go. Then he goes

and wins the race. Ross finished the second. Ross wins. That's what I'm saying. Sometimes you got to know... When to hold him. Yes, you got to know when to be smart. And this is the part that Ross hasn't, that I don't think is figured all the way out yet. You know, and I love watching him race. He's, I mean...

I mean, we saw this with Ross firsthand in the 10 car colleague. You know, he had speed to run probably top three every race. But when you sometimes try to take a top three car and win with it, you wreck. You wreck and end up in the fence. And there's a lot of, he would, he should have been a shoe in for the final four that year and just compounded mistake after mistake in the first round of the playoffs and didn't make it. And it's still happening.

Yeah. And you just, like, he's got plenty of speed. He's got all the talent in the world. He just has to put it together. Yeah. Super fast. I'll tell you what else about him. You know, obviously you guys haven't been around them as much as I have.

When he puts a helmet on, he goes out there in races. And when the race is over, if you ask him about something, he doesn't always know what you're talking about. He is so caught up in that go fast, this particular lap, get is all I can get 110%. Then when you're like, hey, man, Ross, you know, this, this nap. And he's like, I don't know what you're talking about.

Like, he literally blinders on, which is a good thing. You know what this all comes down to? The damn lepricon. The lepricon. The life of a lepricon. Spot on, spot off. Denny Hamlin and Kyle Bush are dequeued after finishing first

and second in Sunday's Cup race. T.J. I mean, if they don't have legal cars, I'm fine with, this is the first time we've had somebody get dequeued this quick, right? A winner, yeah. Yeah, a winner. So in my lifetime, we've never had a winner DQ.

I think it's been like 60 years. So, spot on for that because we've always... It was 1960. I think it's the size of it. We don't like, it's big news. And if you don't pass, I wish it was a little earlier because the other guy is probably on the plane already home figures out he won, he's already won, he's won the race now.

But, you know, spot on for handling it quick. So I don't know how deep you want to. Me and TJ were on this show five years ago and we were screaming about guys winning races and being illegal. And NASCAR finding them 10 grand and taking away 10 points. But they got the trophy. they kissed the girl. We were jumping up and down here screaming going,

you cannot let illegal guys win in today's world because there's so many ways to cheat. And obviously, the NASCAR officials found something after the race underneath the wrap of the race car that they didn't like. Yes. So for me, this precedent was sent, was set at the beginning of the year when you modify parts of the car for an advantage. which your driver's team was accused of doing,

which we were accused of doing. Just in my opinion, this precedent was set in the beginning of the year. So I'm in arrested and seeing what happens this week. And what do they hit you with when you did that? Well, they didn't hit me with anything. But, um, what they hit your team with a hundred points?

Oh, suspensions, 100 points, 100 grand. 100 grand. I know it was 100 points. I don't remember. I think it was 100 grand. I think it was too. Did they, do you think, or so fault, in 1960,

was minus 15 years old. That's a long time not to kick anybody out for a win. They didn't just disqualify first place. They also disqualified second place. Do you think that they should fine and uphold the same penalties with Denny and Kyle that they did with you? I mean, if they're modifying parts of the car for an advantage, it's what they said we were fixing a part that we didn't have any more to put on. And from what I've read, this is he said it was an act. He said it was an added part for an arrow advantage, right? That's what I... It was a material.

It was a piece of tape. It was material. Added material for an advantage somewhere. Was it tape or what was it? It was tape. Not a lot of material you can add under a wrap. No. Well, you could add Bondo.

You could add stuff. So here's what the teams do. Like these teams have sharp edges on their car, let's call it. You know, and the more you can soften that edge, on the body, the better the air flows over that certain part of the body. And essentially, I mean, not going into too much detail, they essentially got disqualified for a, I don't know,

three inch piece of tape on the nose yesterday under the wrap. Three inch thick or three inches long? I mean, it's the thickness. It's heavy tape. It's called, they call it a helicopter tape. It's a heavier duty tape. But, you know, we've seen people say, oh, I can't believe they didn't catch up before the race.

Well, they're not tearing wraps off before. the race. So that's why I wasn't, you know, seen beforehand. They've been going at the noses of these cars. The last couple weeks, I heard they were really heavily inspecting chases recently. And listen, you know, and this is how, this is how small it was. I would venture to say it was on the 20 car last week. But it's such a small detail that they, it was probably overlooked.

And, you know, it's just, it's little details like that that, you know, it make a big difference. Listen, whatever they did, they did it for a reason. And that company's not dumb. Yeah. Man, I just hate to know that we're in air where when the race is over, you essentially need to freaking peel the entire wrap off the car. Because if we can cheat under a rap, well, I think what a lot of these. Holy cow.

You know, we've seen this. This is nothing new. We've seen teams do this with the rap. You know what I mean? Like you layer the wrap heavier than an air. So you soften those edges up here and there. Now what's interesting for me is I don't know if they do like essentially what they're trying to do is is you know take some of the contour out of these curves on the front of the nose.

If they do it with just a heavier wrap is that legal because the reason why they're getting disqualified it sounds like is because they added a piece of quote unquote material to the nose, which is this piece of tape that they got on there. that's obviously illegal. It's pretty black and white rules. You can't add material to the nose or modify it. But I mean, if they did the same thing, essentially, with rap, is that illegal? Now you're inventing the need to inspect the rap. Yeah.

Oh, I mean. Like, are we seriously going down this room? I mean, oh, yeah. I mean, how do you? I don't know. That's what I'm saying. Are we seriously going to inspect the rap on every race car? But it's true.

I mean, there's a rap bender outside right now. TDS. TDS is right out here. And some have it in-house. The people who, vendor. I mean, it's true. It's an outside vendor. And some have it in-house. So, like, how do you know?

You have no way of knowing. But I did see a lot of people tweeting, like, they should have figured this out before the race. I don't think that NASCAR should have to, really, take off the wrap of a car to decide if it's legal or not. I hate that Denny Hamlin lost the race because he drove his butt off. He was running Ross Chastain down before that caution came out. That caution grouped them together.

he didn't give Ross Chastain an inch and he won the race. It was a good race. It was a great freaking race. I hate that he got the wind taken away. But you cannot, this is why I give NASCAR credit. How many times in y'all's career have you heard we won, they told us don't bring this back? Oh. They found this in tech and they told us they don't like this, don't bring this back again and tell all your buddies to.

How many times have y'all heard that? Yesterday they didn't say that. They said, you get out of here. You're not keeping this trophy. You're not keeping this win. We've never seen that. It must be a bigger. It must be a pretty big deal what it was.

NASCAR does not like the rear camber we brought guys. We can't do this again. They just told us that in the tech shit. We're keeping our win. They're not going to find us. They're not going to do anything to us. We're going home. But we're not doing this anymore.

Yesterday they didn't do that. I mean, you've seen them cracking down this week. they crack down on the 43 and the 42 for something very similar. You know, a rocker box, the way that's blocked off. I don't know Brad, the new J. Fabian guy. I don't know him. But what he did this weekend in Pocono was he made some pretty big statements. Don't bring stuff to the racetrack.

I don't like her. I'll kick you out. I mean, there was a pretty big statement made it at the beginning of the year, too. I like this Brad guy. There's a fly on TJ's broom. I mean, it's been there like pretty much the entire show. I've seen it flying around here. Literally fly.

It's actually NASCAR. Are they a spy fly? Yeah. They're listening to where you all are saying. I forgot who I was talking to it, NASCAR, but they listen to the- They love us. They listen to the show and they're like, one of these days, we are going to be a guest on your show.

Come on. Open door. Yeah, we gotta give me the gate code now. We had some ideas on some gifts to bring as well. So spot on, spot off. Kyle Busch's cold reaction to Joe Gibbs following the cup race after Toyo his comments regarding Bush's contract negotiations. Jason, do you want to read that? Toyota said, we're in a bad place right now. We've got some tremendously heavy lifting in front of us.

Freddie, spot on, spot off. Well, for... He must have been in front of him. For his... Is that choker? That's why he can't breathe right now. Take that few. Jason, you got some scissors we cut that choker off. She'll get her that breath bite. As far as Kyle's reaction, I mean, for one thing, This is not really a surprise to see Kyle reacting this way after finishing second. That was normal. Yeah, I think anybody that walks up to Kyle in that situation is probably going to get a similar reaction.

But, I mean, come on. Like this is this is a guy, Brett. How much money is Joe Gibbs paid Kyle Busch? $100 million probably. Plus how many wins? I mean, I looked it up last night. Kyle Bush has 147 wins in the last 15 years in JGR car. Wow.

So like when Joe Gibbs walks up, maybe, maybe you take a break from being pouting and being mad to like acknowledge the guy's presence at least. Maybe that's too much to ask for. But yeah, there's a bigger thing going on. I mean, I'm sure there's, I'm sure that they're not happy with each other. But to that point, like he's already paid him hundreds of millions, he's still making him offers even without sponsorship blocked up for next year that Kyle's turned down. It won't take it.

Yeah. So, so like it's not like they're just telling them, I see you later, get out, get lost. They're making, they're trying to get them back.

But it's just, I don't know how you don't even acknowledge the guy's presence. After all, he's done for you. I was at Ray Evanham Motorsports. Back in the day, and we had a crew chief. And the crew chief left the car and was walking back to the hauler.

And Ray was sitting in a director's chair. I was actually sitting beside him. and Ray said, hey, how's it going? And the crew chief looked at him and he didn't speak. Ray looked at me, he said, oh, my name's on the side of the truck and this guy doesn't have enough respect to speak to me when spoken to. He fired him. He fired a crew chief.

What Kyle Bush did yesterday in that video that I saw in NASCAR is disrespectful. Where is your gratitude, buddy? Where is your grace? Because you don't ever display any. So maybe that's why you're not marketable enough to warn a 25 million. not a sponsor right now. I'm sorry. Most talented guy in the garage, yeah, he's one of them. Best personality for NASCAR, probably. Last person I think NASCAR wants to see go away is Kyle Bush, because you don't need 100 Chase Elliott's. You don't need 100, whatever. You need guys that are

out there doing what Kyle's doing. But man, in that video, holy disrespectful. I thought it was, I thought it was bad. Did you see it? You didn't see the video? I mean, he basically just ignores. Joe walks up to talk to him and he blows him off, essentially. He doesn't even look at him. probably will pull it up I mean that's just I do think there should be a respect level there for a guy that's done so much in the sport and continues to do

yeah like this everything I mean all right that was nice you know props to Joe Gibbs for you know doing that and you know

because Kyle did run a good race had a shot at winning had a really good car the best car for three quarters of the race. Yeah, and not to saying, if he was out front, they probably wouldn't have got around him either. So, but yeah, I mean, to me, there's, looks like there's more going on than,

then, I mean, I know Kyle's usually pretty mad, but to me, there's. To me, this is the week that Joe Gibbs Racing and Toyota came out publicly and leveraged the media against this negotiation of, hey, we're working on contingency plans. Joe Gibbs, hey, it's really difficult. We've had a few sponsors come to the table,

and they left negotiations. So it really sounds like we're at the end of July on air square one with Kyle Busch. Yeah, I mean, and you, we talked about this with your expertise, and I mean, I don't know last time you signed up a $25 million sponsor, but I know you've signed up, you know, multi-million dollar sponsors. Like, if you're in July and we're going racing in February, how in the world are you going to get somebody to commit $25 million in the next six months?

It would take a unicorn. The sales cycle on major NASCAR sponsorships right now is a year. And I know people hear that. And they're like, what does that mean? It means from the time you meet someone and you do all these presentations and you go through the budgeting process and you have your executives meet Joe Gibbs and meet Kyle Bush and spend time with them and see your race shop. understand pit stops because all sponsors don't know everything about NASCAR. By the time you do all the things that it takes to bring a sponsor in here, it's a year, in my experience.

Used to be sell cycles were three to six months. Right now it's a year. Only these big ones. Yeah. I mean, you look at, we heard rumors. I heard rumors yesterday that Gene Haas was there yesterday. That's not very common for him recently. He hasn't been in a lot of cup races, I don't think.

So maybe that ties into, you know, he's, maybe he's, I mean, That's the, where else is he going to go? I mean, it's the 18 or it's the 41. The 10's already got a driver, you know, in my opinion, that guy's not retiring. So, you know, it's the 41. It's the 18. I mean, you hear track house rumors. I don't think there's any, I don't think there's anything there.

I think there's two to three charters that are. Yeah, available. Being available to buy. I don't think I should say who, but I know there's two and there's potentially three. But I also know there's more than three people and more than three organizations that want a charter. Oh, yeah, like who? Well, I mean, Dale Jr., we know he wants charter, right? Danny wants one.

We know Denny wants one. I thought Kyle was coming. I promise you right now. Matt Colleg would buy one because Matt Colleg is Matt Collick. Awesome people to work for. And a very aggressive businessman, if he had a charter to buy, he'd buy it. So I think there's a lot of moves to be made. But again, if you're going to buy a charter and you don't have a sponsor,

how the hell do you afford Kyle Busch if he's going to make what he's making right now and that seems to be the thing I mean who can afford him I mean Gene Haas can if he wanted to and is there anybody else I mean Roger Panski but he I don't really see him hiring Kyle Bush

anytime soon so you know Gene Haas is the guy that everybody kind of has circled on this deal because he's the only one that can go out there we've seen him do it with Kurt in the past kind of run the Haas car all year long Kurt was you know his guy that was his car he stuck him in there.

It might be a similar situation of that, and maybe you stick him in there hoping you can sell a sponsor over the next year. But there's no way, I don't think, that if Kyle sticks to his guns about having to make $10 million. Here's your struggle with Stewart Hoss Racing, if you go there. Kevin Harvick is God at Stewart Hoss Racing. What Kevin Harvick says is Stuart Hoss Racing goes. So I don't see a personality like Kyle Busch and Kevin Harvick,

I don't see that going well. Denny Hamlin said 2311 racing will hire its own pit crew members for next year. What do you think spot on, spot off, Freddie? I mean, spot on. If you want the best guys in the sport, you've got to go out and get them. Well, Danny's already showed you very recently that if he wants something or someone, he's going to go out and get him. obviously it's going to cost him more money probably than it will you know millions of dollars

accrue from from um that's jgr but that's the cost of doing business if you if you want to not be you know it's hard to say these guys if there's six pick crews at jGR you would think that they're going to align the four best teams with themselves they're not going to give the 23 and the 45 their best you know two of their best six not what they're moved thinks.

Old Dave Moody, yeah. He thinks that Christopher Bell got hosed. Yeah, he got hosed for the 23. Right. But it's just, if this is it. This is essentially, if you want the best guys, you've got to go out and pay for him. Then he showed he's going to go after people. So would not surprise me to see him start signing some pickroom members away.

Right. Spot on, spot off. I'm spot on for it for, I mean, look, if you run a business and you have like you talked about KC, vendor, supplier partners, you don't always have control over what they're giving you. And when you look at vertical integration and a business model, you're essentially buying everything under you from a supply chain perspective. And pit crews are important. I think it's a major investment that you're taking on.

And I think you've got to go out. I mean, look, we just had Joe Gibbs Racing publicly announced. They signed a pit crew guy for five years. Tell me how many drivers are signed for five years in the Cup Series right now. Because to my knowledge, there's Joey Lugano that signed a seven-year deal a few years. ago and outside of that, tell me a guy that's sitting on a five-year deal that's a driver. These pit crew guys have become a hot commodity. They're in unbelievable shape.

Their craft is so difficult to be great at. I mean, when you look at, you know, the, let's just say the front row motorsports, right, that's a Penskegee pit crew. When you look at, you know, Colleg Racing, that is a trackhouse pit crew, which was formerly obviously Chip Ganassi Racing, which is the only reason track house, how. their own pit crew. So when you look at making your team better, this is a big step in the right direction for Denny because in my mind, what Freddie said is right. You're getting the fifth and sixth best pit crew from Joe Gibbs Racing and that's not going to be good enough to win a championship.

DJ spot on, spot off. I'm spot on because if you're going to grow, this is the direction to go. I think you're just, you know, I thought you can, he's going to be able to get better people himself. So I think that's a good move for them. He's moving quick, man. He's not messing around. So what does this look like now as far as next steps go? A lot of the guys that are being used right now, there are they belong to teams,

are they going to create their own group similar to JGR's crew, similar to Hendricks group? I mean, how will this work as far as securing you? Well, first thing you've got to have facilities. You got to have facilities. Which he's building one, right? You got to have facilities. You got to have a pit crew manager because no longer does the crew chief pick his pit crew.

And no longer does the crew chief tell them what to do. The crew chief probably had a lot of scenarios. And I hate to say this, they probably don't even know these guys' names because they do change on a weekly basis, depending on what rotation you're in and what team you're on. I think they know their names. Not all of them. I know drivers that don't know their pit crew guys' names. Oh, they should. They don't.

They don't. Well, that's bad. That is bad, but that's the way it is. So, like, it's just an investment, right? It's people and facilities, and you're going to have to go out and get some guys. I mean, there's no, who pays the most money right now in the garage for pickers? There ain't no question about it. So guess where the best guys are?

Joe Gibbs? Yep. Elite document indicates NASCAR is planning a demonstration using prototype electric vehicles before next year's clash in L.A. T.J. Spot on, spot off. Yuppie Tesla T.J. That's why I fixed you. You're going to be able to drive for this. I've actually been negotiating.

Can I be the spotter? Absolutely not. I think spot on maybe it would be a good race. Who knows? From a sustainability perspective, I'm all about the conversation that we're having because obviously it's important

that we protect this lovely world that we live in. I am all 100% on board with this if it's taking the place of the ARCA series. I wasn't expecting that. But can you go to Pocono and run an 80-lap race with an electrical vehicle? No. No way, man. No.

Listen, I don't know. Like, I would have to think that the first instance. installment of this is not going to be a full on electric vehicle. I would think this is going to be some kind of like hybrid. The corner of a motor on a straightaway. I think it's going to be like a hybrid like electric assist where it's like under green, you're running an engine and then under yellow it's going to be like, you know, you're on the battery, saving fuel.

I just can't imagine there's any way where they think, and I don't listen, I'm not smart enough to know anything about the. technology of this, but there's no way we can have, TJ's car hauls ass. Like his Tesla will go zero to 60 before you know it. But he can also sneak up on you because you can't hear a damn thing. So there's, there's no way, in my opinion, that they could have a race without sound. Like, I mean, the driver, just imagine being in a race car.

Oh, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. First of all, you can, I can download sounds onto a flashlight. Yeah, the ice cream truck. No, that's already installed. But you can download what. whatever you want. Engine sounds. Oh, yeah.

I can make it sound like a Formula One car if you want. But I was talking to Krause about this the other day a little bit. And he's like, did you imagine just driving around and like the little balls of rubber

hitting the wheel well? This NASCAR flies driving me insane. But the, you know, like the balls of rubber hitting the wheel wells or just like all the random noises. That's the first thing that I noticed. Talking in the grandstands.

That's one of the first thing. that I noticed when I got my car is you hear all sorts of stuff man it's definitely I would just be curious gosh this is opening a can of worms from an environmental perspective what's going to pollute the air more 40 race cars out there for two hours which is what our lower series run or sometimes are 10 tractor trailers going up and down the road like what are we really accomplish you what are we going for what are we going after by doing this are we trying to enter the politically correct world that, hey, look, we're racing electric vehicles. What does that really do?

So didn't they start like a Formula One series? Yes. Yes. And like, like any good? I don't know. I watched one video they all wrecked into a turn at New York. It could start raining. And that's happened multiple times.

Don't they swap cars out in the middle of race because they don't have enough battery power or something? Like, I just don't know what you're going on. You know what? I do remember seeing something where they had the graphics on the screen where it was like, this guy had this much battery left and he's using more here. It's so weird. It's definitely different.

I support green initiatives. I really do. I just don't understand what we're going after. I think in a perfect world for NASCAR, they can somehow, this could be the Xfinity series identity. Because Dale made a great point on his show a couple weeks ago. I remember two,

three weeks ago about like the car, like the deal for the manufacturers, they have the cars are in the cup series. The trucks are in the truck series. What is the Xfinity series? doing for you. And I think this makes me want to puke in a perfect world. Because that's my favorite series. I know. I know. Yeah. Well, it's better than racing vans. Well, let's go screw with the best thing we got. That's about what we normally do. I'm telling you right now. I mean, if we're going

electric, it's not soon. Like it's, I don't, I mean, they might run a race somewhere next year that's exhibition, but it's not, this is years down the line, especially if we're going to go full electric. Like, this is, I don't think this is coming anytime soon, but they, like, there's, I think if their end game would be to give this Xfinity series some kind of identity for the manufacturers and this might be it. I don't think there's enough.

There's, I don't think a car can run long enough on a, no, that's what I say I think it's got to be some kind of electric assist. It's not going to be a full electric. Electric slide. What's that what you call it when they wreck?

It's electric. He's doing electric slide off a two. Yeah, Dale Jr. Oh, electric slide. Electric slide job. watch out. I got one running a battery on the front stretch. I mean, if it helps the tire shortage we're having for everything else.

It's a battery life race. Not for you my own. Yeah, exactly. Moving on. Put the switch. Go to go to two. Moving on to this upcoming weekend at Indy. Kevin Harvick said running the road course at Indianapolis is absolutely terrible for our sport.

Spot on, spot off Brett. I thought when we stopped running the Oval, it was maybe a good thing because that place holds easily 300,000 people. And in my mind, when we got there, I was looking at about 15,000 people in the stands, and it was bad. And it started with a tire debacle back in 07,08, whenever that was, that good year brought a tire that wouldn't work more than 10 laps, and people were blowing tires. and it screwed the race up. And then it screwed the fandom up. And that racetrack is not built for stock cars. That's not a secret.

Best racetrack in towns across the street, IRP, O-R-P, whatever they call it. A little bit further out. I struggle now because I've seen us put on some really good races at some really big tracks that have typically been boring with the older cars. So for this car, I think Kevin Harvick's right. put us back on the oval.

Let's see what this thing does. Let's go back to it. And listen, I was fortunate enough to be on the team last year that won this race. And it's a spectacular place to win. But man, I'm not a fan of this road course either. I mean,

listen, it's not terrible. Well, I'll tell you what was terrible was the races we were putting on on the oval. Those were terrible. But it robs the place of some of its mystique. And I think Chase Briscoe was one of the ones that said it like he's an indiana kid grew up there wanting to win there you know tony

stewartes's hero and he wins the next uh ex finity race on on the road course and i think he alluded to it and is a post race like i always dreamed about winning here but you know i kind of wish it was on the oval like same thing i mean you won the brickyard last year but i mean you're down there kissing the bricks but it's just no way for me to say it feels the same as if you would have won the brickyard you know turn one's the other way yeah like you're facing the wrong direction we're going the wrong way you know It's just, you know, the road course just robs that place some of its mystique for me. And it's, I don't know what the answer is.

Maybe try it one more time, but like you said, it's a place built for Indy car. I don't remember, I mean, maybe before I started, but I don't ever remember coming away from Indy going, wow, that was a hell of a race, you know? Like, I just don't ever remember a good race there. Yeah. And the road course race was good last year. I mean, Danny and Chase going at it. Like the road course produced action, but it's just still not.

nowhere near the... It's not Indy. No, no. Yeah, I agree. I'm... I would like to see what this car does on the big track. You know, the thing about Indy, what do you think of that place? What's the first characteristic of the big track that you think of? What's the first thing you think of when you think of the big track, Andy? Like, if you think about that track, what do you think about first?

It's big. Yeah, long straightaways. So we need to make it so those are usable, you know? In years past, we would have to... You get so arrowtight in the corner. is maybe we slow the cars down more and let them be able to get enough runs where they, I mean, Indy 500 is great

because the guy can get a run. Yeah. We don't have that to our, it's not in our toolbox to use. You can't use the draft. And that's what I think we're kind of going for in some of these places like Atlanta. So if we can get it to where you can use the draft

to make a pass, I think it could be a good race. Other than that, we're going to, if you're fighting for air in the corner, it's, I mean, we've seen it plenty of times. where, you know, a slower car can just take the air in the corner and still be plenty good down the tradeaway and you can't get to them. Can't do anything. Tell me a racetrack in America that's cleaner than Indianapolis-Mobile speedway. That facility. That facility is amazing. It might be... The dirt track is cleaner than most facilities. It's unbelievable. It's the most top-notch

facility that we go to. It is the most pristine race track in America. Yeah, there's... And I'm not going to Budapest to have one race to see if there's any prettier. I'm going to You're in North America where I'm happy and I'm safe. I'm telling you right now, Indianapolis Motor Speedway is gigantic in size. Yeah, that's huge. You could eat off the floor. You can eat off the bathroom floors in this place. Yeah, it's a phenomenal place.

I don't know if I try it. But hey, you try it first and let us know. There's no way Roger Penske would hire you because I've seen the mess you leave behind on airplanes. Excuse me. First off, he met Chloe when we won the BC39 last year and he loved Chloe. He loved Chloe. And Chloe made quite a mess. Everybody loves Chloe.

This place, though, I'm not lying to you guys. If you're within driving distance to Indianapolis, go, because go for some. Jason, you were just there. Go to St. Elmo's for me. Yes. Indy 500. How many people are there? 300,000 people?

Yeah, like 325. Were you not blown away how clean this place was? Yeah, that was awesome. The media center, the pagoda, pit road, the garages, the bathrooms, the concrete. Everything is just so pristine. They've put TVs up in corners where you can see everything around the track. Now, you know, from your seat, the action on the TV. phenomenal place. I mean, it's one of my,

it's probably the nicest race track that we go to. Speaking of Andy Carr, Indianapolis Motor Speedway, obviously Roger Owens both. They were in Iowa this weekend. They had Tim McGraw, Florida, Georgia Line, Gwen Stefani, Blake Shelton. Here's another promoter that gets it. Make it the place to be. They brought in tons of sweets, Hy-V, I think.

Ivy, yeah. That place looked huge with those sweets. It was so awesome, man. Awesome to see on TV. I've always wanted to be. to race in Iowa. I've been to Iowa. I actually go to Des Moines a lot. You never did a race there? No, I never race there. I mean, when the ex finity race was there, it was a great race. I've obviously watched races there

on TV. But working it. I want to work a race there. Working it. It was a great facility. I mean, the thing I was most excited about this year when I signed back up to go full time was literally spotting a race at the LA Coliseum. Because how many people can say they worked an event in competition at the LA

Coliseum? Not a lot. With the concert. And that, dude, that's like, that's the thing I wanted to do this year. And I look forward to. I would love to go race in Iowa. I love that part of the country. And after seeing what they pulled off this weekend, Cups should be there. Why would the Cups series not go there? You better get an IndyCar gig if you want to work there.

I don't think I'm good enough to any car. Earl can teach you. I said Earl. Continuing, continuing back to the upcoming indie race. Austin Dillon's comments about having T.J. as his father for the. in the Expedity Series race. Jason?

I do have, I do have a spotter next week, TJ. I've already forgot about that. I might have to trade him out, make a trade. TJ for Brandon. Spots a two car.

I don't know if that one will go over real good because that's Crete's on Saturday. So, no, I mean, we'll work together and figure it out and maybe I'll run into somebody in the Xfinity race and he could be another side of it.

Wow. TJ, spot on, spot off. Hey, the worst part about this is TJ knew about this while they were wrecking him last week at home that loudon, I think. So I mean, why didn't you tell him to stop? I don't know what's talking about. Why didn't you tell him to stop? I got a spot for him, Brad.

Stop running into him. Well, first of all, like I said last week, you know, you're not really, you're not staring at your car the entire time under caution. You know what I mean? I'm like, TJ was looking for the bathroom. Hell yeah. I was waiting. I'm like, I had a little break here.

Go to the bat. What? Stop! Stop! What are you guys doing? No, it'll be fine. looking If I was you, I wouldn't talk to him. Like, just say the green's out and then don't talk anymore. You up there?

Yep. Yep. Green. Green. I mean, for the sake of all the other drivers, I'd maybe talk to him. Clear. Yeah, just do the clear.

Yeah. Not clear. Can't tell. Can't tell. That's what he deserves. He's already wanting to trade you out. So have you met with him yet? I think you had a meeting with Brandon's team this morning, right?

Oh, yeah. No, it's, listen, we're going, you're going to win the race. I mean, there's no different. than we're not driving the cars. So it's obviously... It sounds like you are in a truck series away.

Sometimes. Sometimes. You definitely bad timing on this. So couldn't line up any better. Here's my struggle with this. Brandon Brown won a race last year. And here we are, less than a year removed. And he's having to take himself out of the seat.

to sell the seat and subsidize his revenue in order to keep his doors open. I hate to see this because I know damn good and well, Brandon Brown doesn't want to be out of that seat this weekend. I've only talked to Brandon a couple times in my life, and he's doing a great job of owning and driving a race car, and it sucks that he's got to get out of the car. Here's my struggle with Brandon Brown. last year at Talladega Kelly Stavast with NBC heard the crowd Stavis Stavis Stavis

Clays Stavis whole stay vast sounds like I know that Kelly thought that they were saying let's go Brandon she did not know they were saying Joe Biden so the whole world jumps on this let's go Brandon train how many people do you think Freddie made money off a let's go Brandon. A lot. Millions probably. People made millions of dollars off of this chant. Let's go Brandon. How much money did Brandon actually make off of Let's Go Brandon? None. What an idiot. Like I look back at this thing and I hate that chant. I hate every time I hear that chant public, I'm like, come on man, this is ridiculous. Let's not do this.

If you want to say F. Joe Biden, just say it. Don't use this chant as a cover up. But what I hate about it is. This guy, he opposed it and he didn't do anything about it to monetize it and he totally missed the bus because every, we had airplanes flying banners that said, let's go Brandon. We had people still wearing shirts. We see these bumper stickers all over. In gas stations. Everywhere. We see it everywhere. And the only guy that didn't capitalize on it was the guy who actually deserved to capitalize on it, which is Brandon Brown. It's it's like he got on the train too late. because it was, like, he tried to distance himself from it as it happened. And then coming into this year, all of a sudden he had that LGBT coin.

And it's like, that guy was a scam artist. They said no to it as well. Yeah, and NASCAR. But like, if you're going to, you can't waffle back and forth. Like, he should have capitalized on it. Should have happened. And he didn't. And then you try to jump on late and this is the stuff that goes on.

It sucks for him. I think what happened was there was potential sponsors and they backed away because of that. Oh, I'm sure. So that probably, you know, oh, these people are running from this. I can't sell this. You know what I mean? So, like, that's what?

That's just my opinion of it. If he had trademarked, let's go Brandon, the next morning, he would be sitting on a gold mine. And he didn't. And he missed the boat. And I hate it. Because, to your point, he kind of is a victim of something that he didn't have anything to do with.

Oh, he wins a race. He wins a race. did a great job and a television reporter misunderstands the channel. Look, she's got on a headphone. I mean, how many times does somebody say something to you during a race where you have your headset on and you don't understand what they say? Not only that, she's got producers in her ear. Like you can be talking to me and yelling at me.

And if I have either Booty or Bubba or NASCAR in my ear, I can't understand a thing you're saying. I promise you, Kelly did not know what they were saying when she said, no. Oh, listen, they're chanting, let's go Brandon. But where he screwed up was right then. He might as well, I got on the train and rode down. to train till it ran out of steam. And now here we are less than a year later and he's having to give up his seat at road

courses. How many years is that normally last? Oh, man. How long does that train run? NASCAR flies back on your hat. It's just, I hate it for Brandon Brown and his entire organization because people don't realize, man, this thing's bigger than Brandon Brown. This thing affects the crew chief, the crew guys, the spotter, the front office, the travel lady,

you know, all the people. So I just hate he missed the boat. We talked about it on here last week about this is obviously we were talking about Brandon Brown was what we talked about two teams. One was going to be a driver having to get out. Obviously, that was Brandon. Another one was a team that was, you know, struggling, potentially maybe shutting a car down.

And let's face it, it was our motorsports. And here they go again this week. And they destroy another car, you know, with, with Jeb getting, I mean, just Jeb collected in a wreck there. I thought Jeb was going to drive straight into the barrels at the end of Pit Road. And I was glad that he did not because that would have been way worse than what actually happened. I mean, it was a flip, but it wasn't really a vicious wreck.

Wrecked a dog food out of that thing. I'm not sure why he didn't go down to pit road. He did wrecked the dog food out of it. It was all falling out of the Trump too. The Xfinity Series, I say this weekend and week out, the Xfinity Series is my favorite form of asphalt racing in America right now to watch. They do a phenomenal job, but man,

we got a lot of teams on life support right here. And we cannot afford to lose the Brandon Browns and the hour motor. The guys who run 8 to 16th are part of what makes that series amazing. We can't. Take those 8 to 16th place cars and turn them into 20 plus cars. Door bumper clear fans. We want to give you five reasons why RacingUSA.com is our favorite store for NASCAR merchandise. Numero uno.

NASCAR fans have rated RacingUSA.com. Google's top source for NASCAR merchandise. So you can always buy with a lot of confidence. Second, RacingUSA.com discounts every in-stock and pre-order item every day. So no need to wait for a sale. Third, racingUSA.com guarantees the lowest advertised diecast prices, so you don't have to shop around for a better price. Numero 4.RacingUSA.com ships all-in-stock orders the next business day so you can get your order faster than anyone else in this industry. Fifth, RacingUSA.com has a wide selection of current season hats, apparel, diecasts, and novelties for the sports most popular driver.

You can find products that aren't available anywhere else like the autograph, Kurt Busch, Jumpman, Kansas, Racewind, 124, die-cast car. Fans, RacingUSA.com is DoorBumper Clear's choice for NASCAR merchandise, and we want it to be yours as well. Whenever you need new gear to show your support for your favorite driver, we want you to shop RacingUSA.com, where you're always somebody special. If anybody sees a big guy streaking down Talladega Boulevard, don't be alarmed with just friday.

Rick Grieffin is a fucking play. I just had to call it and say somebody to call him any o'ambulance. Well, I never thought that my fucking Kyle Larson would be on my bad side. His cars held together with duct tape and home. Reaction fiender starts now. Here's the best part of it, though, right? Ty is thanking the Lord for the opportunity and being his new mature self, okay, which is great. But while he's thinking the Lord, you come.

To Noah, just absolutely chugging a beer. That's amazing. Throwing up, climbing the fence, chugging a beer. Two polar opposites. I heard somebody said, I've seen a tweet, was like, okay, Noah has done every possible celebration you could do. He's chugging beers, he's climbing fences, he's doing burnouts. He's got them all covered.

Puking. Okay. So let's just first start this off by saying I've COVID and I'm highly medicated. Oh, great. I don't think Danny Rason Ross was anything crazy He was going for the lead It is what it is

But can we talk about how hard These damn hits are Like is NASCAR going to change something Like damn Kurt has a concussion How many people are hitting off of turn 3 Like holy shit

And then also How hot are these wives and these girlfriends And these fiancés Like Bubba and Amanda's engagement pictures Like holy I kissed a girl That thing took a turn that I wasn't expecting In the middle of that call

Any comment Yeah I mean they were great pictures I don't know what to tell you No No front end word Who wrecked who more Chase Elliott Against Corey LaJoy

Or Denny Hamill against Ross Chastain Who wrecked who more Who wrecked who more I don't see much of a difference I would say A slight edge to chase But not really a lot of Chase's was a little more aggressive early.

Like, I'm taking this. You're not winning this race. The people who were saying that Denny Hamlin wrecked Ross Chastain, they've lost their fucking minds. Denny didn't wreck him. He put Ross in his spot to make a decision. I'm glad we all three agree. That's,

Danny's great. That's what I'm saying. It's rare all three of us agree on something. And it's rare that you're so nice about it. Guess who disagrees with us on this? This woman? No. Dale Jr.

What do he say? Dale Jr. thinks that Denny Hamlin wrecked Ross Chastain. He paid him back. Sent him. He sent him. He paid him back. I mean, Ross also thought the same thing. Dell Jr. also thought that Brad Ross wants that to be to pay back, Casey. He wants it to be that mild. He says in his interview

that he probably has more coming. He wants to be that mild in that lane. Del Jr. also thought that we wrecked Bubba in turn 1 in Road America when Bubba was sliding through the gray. You did. You wrecked the hell out of us. I saw it. I saw it from turn five. Gets hit by Brett. Really? Okay.

What an idiot. Hey, what's going on door but for clear. Just watching the Pocono race and watched Denny Hamlin completely run Ross Chastain into the wall. Complete bull-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-hatt. Whatever, man. Chastain was much faster.

Fuck you, Denny Hamlin. He's a Ross fan. T.J. doesn't even like Denny Hamillan, and he's on Denny-Hamlin's side on this thing. That's how wrong this person is. Denny did not just wreck him. Ross wrecked. Denny. Remember Gateway?

That is what I used to wrecking. That is wrecking somebody. The dog food out of him. You'd wreck the dog food out of him. Well, here I go, getting all fired up and ready to come on here and talk some trash about Denny Hamlin because I don't really like him. And his daughter shows up crying happy tears because Daddy won the race. And I turned into softy girl dad over here going, well, hell. Now I can't even be mad at the guy.

So I guess congratulations, Denny. Not really. Not really. Finally somebody wrecked that son of it. of a B. Whammer put his ass in the fucking wall. Fuck you, Tastain. Soft,

good Lord. Soft girl dad disappeared there for the last five seconds. Oh, yeah. It was a different person, I think, sorry.

They just ran together. I thought the guy went to a range. Wait, let me advise with Ben. Was that two calls or one call, Ben, when he started cursing at him? It was the, the girl dad and the guy saying,

finally somebody wrecked Ross Chastain, the same guy? Two different calls. Okay. They sounded a lot. They sounded a lot. Did you hear the crowd? Yeah.

Oh, dude. That sounded like that day when I wrecked, when Bubba wrecked Kyle at Waukins Glen and it was a standing ovation. That, like, I'm not going to lie. I was walking. We went through the tunnel. I mean, we made it through the tunnel good real fast. Me and Brett, I actually passed Brett in the tunnel. He got in the wrong lane on a restart.

I did. I did. But, um, holy smokes was the crowd loud. Like, the almost, it was a loud enough for I was like, I turned around and looked on pit road. I was like, wow, this is pretty badass. Like, to see that many people there and, you know, to then be that involved in it, just even if you don't like who won or whatever, just, man, it was pretty awesome. There's a, I mean, just the parking lot.

Frank Denny is still at the racetrack trying to get out of the parking lot that he parked in. Oh, my gosh. They had traffic so screwed up going in that place yesterday. Holy cow. Yeah. But it was packed out. Well, I mean, when you have traffic going on a racetrack, that's usually a good problem. Yeah, it is.

Oh, 100%. So that's good. and congrats, you know, well done, Pocono for a solid race weekend. Just goes to show one race a year. You imagine if there was a concert after that race? 100%, because this is the first time that I remember. When was the last night Pocono only had one race? I mean, we had one weekend the last couple years.

How many campers and stuff? You couldn't even see turn one, bottom. Yeah, we, I mean, we've been going there a long time. We used to go for Father's Day, and then we would go back six weeks later. Yeah, it actually got to where the window got to four to five weeks later. And it was like, man, this is too fast. Now, one race a year, it just goes to show. It was perfect.

Packed. Passed. Yeah, it was packed. It was awesome. Anytime the crowd's that engaged in it, you know, and hell sometimes when there was a race for the lead, I mean, I had to look to see what was going on because the crowd was starting to be crazy.

Yeah. All right. Last one. How is that part of the intro to this segment? Oh. Oh. Engine, engine number nine. That's win number four.

Welcome to Mickey Mouse's Clubhouse, motherfucker. I don't think that's how Mickey Mouse Clubhouse goes. I've heard that hot dog, hot dog song. Yeah, I don't remember. I have never heard anything. Hot diggedy dog. Don't let your kids do drugs.

That is the point to the last caller. It may have been a Mickey Mouse win. That's my name of call that. Mickey Mouse win. Yeah, just like the Lakers championship in the bubble was the Mickey Mouse. championship. Chase's win after finishing third. Mickey Mouse, gotcha. Well, he did be in the elaps.

You can't blame Chase at all. No, he didn't do anything. He's on, like, they just had an interview with him a few minutes ago, and Jenna Breyer tweeted out that Chase is not probably not celebrating this one. He's like, I cross the line third. Like, he's not going to. He's not going to celebrate somebody else's sports. He doesn't really, I mean, I can't.

He doesn't. He's not a big celebrator, I don't think. I don't think, yeah, he's not throwing a big party or something. Could you imagine if that was your first win ever? That would kind of suck. That would be the worst. That would be bad. I said something to Landon.

On this topic, I said some of to land in last week because we were in contention to win that race. Correct. Loudon. And Loudon, yeah. And Algar got passed us at the end there and we got disqualified. And he's like, well, that sucked. And I was like, this is on like Thursday. I sat down with him.

And he's like, I think I still would have liked it. He's like, I think I would have wanted to win the race and get to do all this. Even if I didn't get to keep it. At least I did my job. you know, and I would have preferred to, I would prefer to have kept the, you know, got the win, did the victory celebration, Victory Lane, all the pictures.

TJ's going to hit me ahead. He missed him again. That's twice he smacked you in the forehead. I didn't hit him again. That NASCAR flies. Won't go away. That should make for great TV for Mav TV this week. TJ smugging the fuck out of Freddy.

Don't worry. Don't know. I have a picture. I have a picture of Freddie with the phone. I'm from Pagelan. I'm taking my head off and I'm swinging back. You see how quick I'll react to right there.

To leave an audio message 24-7. Oh my God, it's back. I'm right kidding. Get out of it. Give you one more. It keeps landing in the same spot. It's going back. It might be great because it goes back and forth

between our two ads. Yeah. To leave an ony message 24-7, go to anchor.fm slash door bumper clear. Do not hit me again. The message icon. We'll keep playing the best ones each week. I'm going to be in protocol.

What's up, Dirty Mo Media fans. This is Indycar driver Connor Danyly. And comedian Joey Rollinero. And we're Speed Street, Dirty Mo Media's newest podcast. We dive into the latest happenings in IndyCar, NASCAR, and F1 every week, as well as life, on and off the track. Speed Street is available now on all major podcasting platforms. And make sure to follow us on Twitter and Instagram at Speed StreetPod. It's time for hashtag AskDBC.

Offerpad question of the week. Don't forget to send in your questions on Twitter each week using hashtag AskTBC and we will pick the best ones. Thank you all again for submitting some pretty solid questions. This first one is from Joe Deals Amazing. Let's try it again. What? I think it's pretty obvious. I capitalized different words.

Jason's nice way of saying you. Let's try. That's an I not an L. to capitalize the words. Jody is. Jody is. It's literally an L. It's an I. It's a capital I. It's still an I.

This first one is from Jody is amazing. What are y'all's thoughts on Cindrick getting the penalty for a wheel coming off after Bell didn't? I think it was the right call. I think that Bell got away with one and the right call was made on Cindrick.

And, you know, we talk about consistency. Listen, they missed one. Now they need to, this needs to be the baseline. If that tire gets off your car on pit road, it should be a penalty. Out of your box. It should be a penalty. Brett.

NASCAR got the bell thing wrong. If there were cars on pit road when that happened, I think they react differently. And you just can't do that. They did get the Cendrick one right. And it was a big miss. Bell got to win the next week. And holy cow. Epic fail.

DJ. Yeah. If it's off, it's off. If it's in your pit box, that's still like you're changing a tire. If it leaves your pit box or your car leaves your pit box, that wheel is off. I have a question for you guys,

and I'll use hashtag SDBC. We saw this twice yesterday, and it just was a question that I don't even know exactly where I stand on it. Should the penalty be stiffer for driving the wrong way up pit road? So I was thinking about this yesterday. to, you know, this happened twice.

The 10 and the two both did this yesterday. They both drove backwards up here. You did this earlier this year, I think, as well. I didn't drive backwards. I drove, I drove across and to the right. I missed a commitment line. But to me, you should have, so, I mean, that's still pulling up to pit, in my opinion.

I think you get held a lap. I think it should be at least. I think, I think if you, if they're, pit wall is set up like Charlotte. It was Charlotte, I think it was, where we spun out. And the pit wall is open there. So we drove across the short track and got on pit road. That's a commitment line violation because we went around the commitment line and turned on pit road. They went down put road all the way and turned back up pit road and came back. You're saving yourself multiple laps.

Well, that's what I'm saying. And damage to your car. And damage to your car. Why are you crossing into pit road? Because you're trying to shorten the distance. You're basically pulling up. You're basically pulling up to pit, my opinion. But stop the scenario. What if Eric Amarola went down pit road backwards during a live pit road pits or open pit cycle? Would NASCAR have a heart attack? Heart attack.

So what's the difference? We could not open pit road yesterday. We heard this on the radio. They had Kip trying to lock the brakes up into turn three because the two was facing the wrong direction on the road in his box. I don't agree with that at all either. So I'm going back to what I ask you got. What is the difference in if pit road is open versus pit road is closed,

you still drove the wrong way down the highway. Yeah, I mean, it shouldn't be. And right now all it is is tailed the longest line for missing the commitment. So if we got to work on the car, I'm going to have Brad loop it around, turn it backwards. So they'll sew the pace car down, right? Yes. Yeah. Okay.

Yeah. You cannot have all of these scenarios exist given the fact that pit road is open or not open. It is either a penalty or it is not. I'm fine with them coming to pit road not running around the whole racetrack if it's safe. There's, you know,

under yellow, there's nothing there for Eric. I'm fine with all that. But you can't do it to, and then get in a, like you should have to pay the penalty for going around the whole track still. You don't get to cut the course.

It should be a lap at least. Like, because if you're driving around the racetrack with a flat tire, the field is going to come around you. Yes. At least once. It should be at least a lap.

So until the pace goes by one time. Because why not? Why not do it now? Like if you said the president, this is tailed the longest line, everybody's gonna do this. If you get a flat down the front, you're set off a turn forward.

Charlie, if you get a flat, stop. Take a left. Yeah, however you can do it, you know. It needs to be something set for it. This next one is from Jeremy Zarfoss 1. Name the top five crew chiefs in the garage,

any series and no particular order. I assume he means active, probably. Yes. Top five's a lot. I'll take this a different way. because actually even we had a beer last night with Dave Ellens. I think there's two guys in the cup garage that deserve a lot of credit right now.

And I think Dave Ellens is one of them. Obviously, he's with Eric Jones in a 43 car because that car yesterday was running up front in contention for a top five. And they've done this a lot this year. I mean, we've even kind of rattled him off as a guy that can win a race. And when you look at how bad and how slow that 42 is versus the 43, night and day difference coming out of the same shot. So Dave Ellen's to me is a guy that comes to mind.

Another guy that comes to mind is Blake Harris. Michael McDowell is arguably running the best he's ever run. Even going back to when he was at MWR and a fully funded cup car, I think those two guys, if I'm colleague racing or if I'm, you know, Dale Jr. Motorsports and I'm starting a cup team, like I'm going after one of those two guys tomorrow. Because those two guys to me are difference makers right now. Yeah. I mean, you have all the same names you're going to throw around.

And you look at it, I think I tweet about this a couple weeks ago. Like, we always see like ebbs and flows of what manufacturer has on it a little advantage. Chevy was dominant last year. Toyota looks like it has speed this year. But always throughout that, there's always guys like Ford right now, we would say, is on a downturn. Like for whatever reason, I don't know if it's body motor, whatever it is, they're not great right now. But the four car motor. The four, no, it's not motor, but the four car is still runs, I mean, he's not dominant like he was at one point, but it's competitive. It's competitive every week. That's a guy like Rodney. You know, this is where like good teams, find speed, great teams make speed. You know, these guys can find ways to trick cars up like we saw yesterday probably. You know, you guys that are always just consistently up there. You got the Rodney's. You got the Gabharts. You got the guys. But, you know, like Brett points out, guys that are making a difference at smaller teams. We talked about Patty making differences with places last.

week. You know, Blake was a great example this week. Michael McDowell has run better than he's ever had in his life everywhere. You know, we've seen him show flashes at road courses and maybe some places that run like road courses like Pocono yesterday. But I mean, he's been top 15-ish all year long and rattling off. I think he's got five or six top tens this year. Yeah. So yeah, Blake was a great example. Dave, of course, you know, we saw what he did at JRM. Now you're seeing like just a difference between the 43 and the 42. But it's hard right now to T. because we don't have a guy winning five races, six races, seven races to be able to credit the crew chief. Yeah.

Yeah, it's hard to, that's what I was just thinking here. I'm trying to sit here and think about who's really. He's going to say, Matt, just so everybody knows. Yeah, of course, you know, we have two of the best. That was obvious yesterday. We, you know. How many times I passed you for 25th? Only when we pit.

Hey, we ended up with a 16th. Yeah, we got 20th. Yeah. Smoked you. Listen, this new car is throwing a curveball and a lot of this stuff. But I do think you got the same kind of group. I think, you know, Cliff still looks pretty strong at Hendrick. If you could bring back any retired crew chief to be your guy, who would you bring back?

Tommy Baldwin. Colpern for me. DJ, who would you pick? Todd Gordon. I like it. All right. So which question is the offer pad question in the week? Oh.

I like the crew chief question. I like the crew chief question. Yeah. I want to pick the first one just so we can hear TJ, I mean, Casey butcher that Twitter handle. Well, I'm sorry. When you read it, it looks like an L. I don't know what to tell you. Well, congratulations to Jeremy Zarfoss one for having this week's offer pack question

of the week. It's time. Who is it? Yeah. Yeah, answer. What do you want? Ask him about sit. You think, hey, we're busy.

Motherfx. Hey, you're on speakerphone. I see. I hear some foul language. Yeah, we're almost done recording. What did y'all talk about? Yeah, you. We talked about you.

We called you an idiot. Let me ask you question. What did y'all determine on Denny and Ross? Was it a retaliation or not retaliation? We all three said you were wrong. man yeah but he was so nice about it it was so graceful

it was retaliation with a scaffold not a hammer it was he had his kid gloves on very gently push him well I mean that's a lot for Denny

yeah yeah here lately it is um believe it or not that's as hard as Denny goes who knew I don't think it's over I don't even

especially since now Ross finished in front of him. I know. That's that. It's null and void. It's reset. Back to square one. Back to zero. Because it didn't matter.

Back to zero. Yep. All right. I'll call you after. Wait, wait. Where's Ty Gibbs going to drive next year? Brett was just going to tell us. Okay.

Okay. I got some ideas on that too. Well, we're all years. Okay. Have a good day. All right. I'll call you back. Say it.

I got a love a good. I have to leave that in the show. Cameo appearance by our Ballstale Jr. Just pops right in on us. Wanted to do a quick interview. Just quick, yeah. Now we got silly season with Ty Gibbs. Oh, boy.

It is time for us to get into our favorite Spinity X-Fi more than fast moments from this week. Whether you're behind the wheel or online, Speed isn't the only thing you need. So tell us what were your favorite more than fast moments this week, T.J. I mean, it's hard for me not to pick Noah. That was a great drive for Noah at the end. He had plenty of opportunity to throw it away and he got the job done.

So it's hard for me not to give Noah my X-5 more than fast moment of the week. I tried to get Noah to come to Big Al's with us last night. He turned me down more than fast. I can tell you that. He didn't want no part of that. but my X-Finity X-5 more than fast moment is given to NASCAR. They disqualified the first and second-place car before I even got to the airplane.

So shout-up to those guys for being fast. Ready? I don't know who the hell I'm going to give it to. You know what we talked about? Am I exfinity X-5 more than fast moment? I'll give it to two guys. Got top 10 yesterday. Bubba Wallace, Michael McDowell.

This fly will not leave me alone. Bubba first career, back-to-back, top-10 finishes in the cup series. that's awesome for him. And we just talked about how fast Michael McDowell's been this year and he clicks off another top 10. This might be number seven, I think, for him. Which one is it?

He can do both. I can do both. Speaking of Bobba, more than fast, how about them taking him to do an unveil with the Chicago street course? I mean, he's such a great road racer that he is now part of

unveiling street courses. The 23 usually does pretty well in Chicago. So we'll see how we're next year. We should run a bulls-pain skiing to the streets. Who is in charge? of not getting Michael Jordan to this announcement. Like you have one job if you're NASCAR.

It's take Michael Jordan to where he is God. Yeah. Chicago. I don't care what it costs you. I don't care what G5 you got to rent to get him there. You got to take Michael Jordan when you do a Chicago announcement. Okay, Brett, you are in charge of getting Michael Jordan to the next Chicago. I could do a hell lot better job than whoever was in charge of it this year.

Because Jack is so easy. You got to have Michael Jordan in Chicago. All right. What gets people more excited about Chicago? Bubba Wallace or Michael Jordan? Bubba, obviously. I saw the video. I thought it was a police chase.

Did the video him driving through the street? I was like, what the what's going on here? Oh, you got to watch out there. Is somebody steal the 23? Here on door bumper clear being more than fast as a way of life. Thankfully, there's plenty of weekly action for our Xfinity X5 more than fast moments. You know what else is more than fast? X5.

With a speed for all your devices, you also get the reliable. and security that keeps your crew connected and protected. With Xfinity X-Fi, you can do more of what you love with faster internet and a powerful and secure connection. Follow at Xfinity Racing on Twitter for even more X-Fi more than fast moments. And Casey, don't forget to vote for your favorites. You got it. Thank you to Xfinity, proud premier partner of NASCAR.

What an idiot. Let's move on to What an Idiot. Brett, who wins this week's One Idiot? My What an Idiot, other than the guy who didn't take Michael Jordan to Chicago, is whoever invited Paul Tracy back to the SRX series. This piece of shit has no respect for people, for their equipment, for his competitors. I know Ryan McKinney, friend of mine, son plays on our baseball team. They work their guts out to fix these cars.

For like a month and a half. In a lap three of every race, this moron goes out there and destroys half the field. Ryan Blaney flies over this racetrack to race against his dad how awesome is this story going to be. CBS invested a lot of money

into the PR angle of Ryan and Dave Blaney are going to race together tonight. Well, let me tell you who that up. Paul Tracy. So he wins my what an idiot

for the month of July. The whole month. Top that. DJ. I'll just show you Todd in there with that then. I'll give them, they can put them right there together. They look a little bit alike. They look a little bit of like, wrecking balls, man. Like, what can I go out here and hit? What can I hit this time?

Freddie, who's your one? I got a list again. Oh, Jesus. I got three. Well, I mean, they're quick ones. So we've seen another idiot at Hickory wreck his race car in Moonhead had the video of it. If you go back, find it's Moonhead on Twitter. The guy comes blowing out of the infield and T-Bones a guy in turn one, destroys both their cars. for God knows what reason. Yeah. Idiot. Going with the camper guy?

The camper guy. The camper guy is close to the top of the list for the year. Did y'all see that? Did you see that? He's leave. I don't know how drunk you have to be to leave driving your camper with the awning still out and blow it off the side of your camper. On another camper.

Never check up. Never even. And then and still like after he hit him. Never checked up. Like he's still going around the corner with the awning pointing up the side. He didn't he kept going. I text that AJ Amadinger. He sent back not clear.

my, but I think one of my, my favorite wooded idiot yesterday was, and I seen this, was it Will? 12,000 times. Yeah, might have been Will. I seen, I don't know how many tweets I got tagged in about this. All these people, the conspiracy theories about Ty Gibbs McDonald's fire suit. I mean, did you see all this? How did they get him a suit so fast? This is, this must have been pre-planned because Ty already had a McDonald's fire.

The fucking guy's suit said Kurt Bush across the front of it on his, on his belt. I saw it. And they're like, well, it seems to fit awful good to be Kurtz. If you look, you can't even read the word McDonald's on the leg because it's so bunched up because Kurt's a foot tall and tie. I was like, I mean, how big of an idiot do you have to be to jump on this bandwagon when it clearly says Kurt Bush right on the front of the suit and it obviously doesn't fit him. But yeah, that was my favorite what did he the day yesterday. There's no, like this isn't, you don't plan this. You know, and honestly, I think all the props go to Kurt for stepping up.

You know what I mean for, but yeah, you're, I mean, you're an idiot if you think that was playing like that. And like to Dale's point about where Ty going to drive next year, I think it's pretty clear. I'm pretty sure Ty wouldn't have been like, man, I can't wait to run my first race at Pocono. That's going to be great. It's going to be awesome.

You know, but it's funny how that stuff works out. But, you know, it's that. Do you see Ty moving to cup next year? If they don't resign Kyle Busch, yes. You don't have another plan. Your plan is, Bush resigns and Martin Truex has already said he's coming back and you put Ty Gibbs in Martin's car at the end of next year. You don't have any other plan if the 18 isn't filled? Damn, man.

I don't this, it's July. What about a driver with money? What about what about what about what about leasing your charter? Could lease your charter. You could lease your charter. You could lease your charter to Danny Hamlin and run three cars there and have three cars in house. And then you have a third car there. But again, there's charters for sale, so Denny may secure his own charter. There's so many scenarios in play. What if, what about, if I'm Joe Gibbs, my A plan is Kyle Busch and my B plan is my grandson. Do we know if Tyler is going to our staying RCR next year? What if he goes into the JGR, Toyota?

That'd be the dumbest thing RCR could do right now. He's let that guy walk. He's the only RCR car and RCR affiliated cars that runs well week in and week out. If you enjoyed one idiot, head over to Coucher Shop.com. to order Spotter Brett's signature What an idiot t-shirt. Enter the code CouchRacer to get a free premium sticker at checkout.

Remember, that's Coucheryshop.com. Let's make DBC picks. Jason, congratulations. Some bha. Yeah, you won at Pocono with Bowman after your boss. You ever been to Vegas? Yeah.

You make me gamble anything so I don't really know how it works. Well, TJ and I are both sitting on two road course of veterans. I know, and you're already going to take one. for this week. Oh, don't you worry,

Brett. Brett and Jason tied for leave the six wins. Freddie in second. I don't understand that Jason became commissioner in the league and he's playing in the league.

Yeah. Just my game. What a coincidence that when I get to qualify, he wins. I mean, I still think the driver

who, in Dale's works, took my driver out at least I don't want the driver that wrecked to be reinstated as like Ross had it in these ridiculous. I think no one should win and we just all burn our picks.

How about... How about next week when they win the appeal, I get my win back? Yeah, if they win the appeal, you're one back. Do you think they'll appeal this? I don't think so. I wish they would. But how do you... What's your excuse and it's pretty like... What's your excuse for what? I mean, what excuse you're going to give for having... Maybe you got permission to do it?

Like Broadson? We've seen it before. We've seen a driver get permission to go test... a car. Yeah. The guy had permission in writing, and he went and tested the car, and then they suspended him or whatever they did to find him or whatever. And then he won the appeal because he had proof that he was permitted to go do that.

So anyway, the appeal. I wish, I hope they appeal. I love Chris Gabehart. I obviously liked Denny Hamlin. I wish they would appeal. I think it would be awesome. All right. Let's make picks for Indy.

Freddie, you're at first. Brady, why don't you get to pick first? I thought you won the race yesterday. I did. but I got, Jason, Jason decided he wanted to win. All right,

you can go last. So Jason disqualified you from your win. I know. So that he could get it. Talk to your boy, Denny. Denny's great. Denny didn't do anything. This would have been a great Monday

to have Denny on. Yeah, we should have been fired up this morning. There's two guys I could pick from. I don't know which one I want. What are your two options? I'm going to take well,

let me see something right here real quick. I am going to take, I'm going to take Chris That's a good pick. That's actually who I was looking at as a sleeper. I will take Cendrick. Who goes third? To me?

Yes. I'm going with last year's winner. I knew it. The dinger. A.J. Amundinger. The dinger. What was that? Let's go dinger.

What was that AJ thing? We came up with that one time. Oh, the goldfish. AJ's party. That was still the funniest thing. It's still. It's still. It's still.

It'll have to get bleeped out, Jason. I'm going with Tyler Redick. Every time I see that brand. Tyler Redick, he said. Dang. Ricky Stenhouse, Jr. Well, that's a great pick, Jason. Jeez, oh, man.

Have you ever seen him run a road gorse? It's a strategy game where I may have more better options to save for a later. If you're going to lay up, lay up. If you're going to lay up, pick Tim Eel. Yeah. Cody Ware. I want one that, you know.

If you're going to lay up, you're like, Bowman was a layup last week and then he won the race. Bowman is not very fast right now. How many weeks do we have left? five. Five total. Going into this weekend, Indianapolis Road course,

we have five left. We have Indy, Michigan, Richmond, Watkins, Glenn, and Daytona. Wow. I'm running low on picks. Three wild cards out of five races.

Three wild cards. So we got five races left. I got both bushes, Byron, Chase. You guys are in trouble. That means you backed into a lot of... Be your... Yeah.

Yeah. Strategic, bud. All right. St. Elmo's. Anybody this week? weekend? I'm sure. Thursday night.

You coming? Thursday. I got to go Thursday myself. Why? Truck practice is a damn 7 o'clock Friday morning. At the real track. That's why I don't do trucks.

I don't like, I love to watch truck race. I'm hoping that Derek Krauss moves up to Xfinity so I can retire from truck racing at the end of the year. Yeah. People don't realize how much we don't get paid to do a truck. They don't realize it.

I mean, look, in Xfinity, here's the bad thing. in Xfinity, there are spotters who make more money to spot than the drivers make to drive. I bet you I make more money spotting than half the field. Jeez. That's not something that shit. I agree.

It's bad for the driver, Casey. It ain't good for me because I promise you I'm not getting rich on the Xfinity series. Yeah, it's not like we're making a lot. It's not like I'm up there making freaking bank, okay? It's just telling you that there's drivers out there that aren't making bank. The truck series is where I'm starting. it's becoming so bad back there.

It's almost like you can't even help making a, you can't even help a driver because they just run over everybody. Let's do an overrunner game with Jason because I love Jason. All right, you got to travel to Indy on Thursday. You got to work all day Friday, right? You got to spot practice, spot the race. It might rain. You might have to end up spotting another day.

What do you think a spotter should make on a weekend to spot a truck race? Uh, what's fair? a good spotter. 2,500. Damn, I love Jason. You're fired as the new spotter stand union president. Wow.

We don't make 20% of that to do a truck race. I think if we ran every week, I might make $2,500 a month. They say these cheap ass, listen to me, these cheap ass truck owners, and I'm going to call them that, they save more money by having Cups spotters spot a truck race than we make. If they had to hire somebody full-time, if they had to travel them, which is airfare hotel rental car per diem, if they had to do all those things, they would spend at least $50,000.

They don't pay us anywhere near $50,000. So just so you know, just laying out out there. I'm not going to spot a truck then. We're clearing the air on how much money spotters make to spot truck races. So noted for my spotting debut not to start in trucks. Don't start in trucks. No. I would skip the truck series by racing. What? $2,500 in Xfinity?

A weekend? Yeah. Yeah. Nah, Jason. We would love you right now. Holy smokes, Jason. Now, nowhere near $2,500 a weekend to spot Xfinity. There's probably a lot of guys that don't make that in cup. God bless their hearts. I make that in cup, Jason. I will give you that much. But, Jason's got a truck. Why do you think I don't spot a truck race? Fuck a truck. They don't pay any money. KBM's over there with $3, $4 million coming in per truck, and they're going to throw a spot of $500. I'm out.

do it yourself, Kyle Busch. Get up there and do it yourself. All right. Well, thank you all for listening. Don't forget to watch us on Mad TV this Thursday at 7 p.m. Eastern. We've looked really good on TV. Speak for yourself.

Your heads look smaller on TV in there. I'm just going to wear black every week. Me too. Don't forget to share it, like, comment, post. My green sunrise grill shirt doesn't really slim me down much. you like. Hey, thanks Dale Jr. for calling, Ann.

Yes. Special guest. Special guests. Special guests. Thank you. Dale Jr. and the fly that still keeps showing up on. The NASCAR fly.

We'll see you guys after Indy. Yes. Go to Indy and then go to the BC 39 the next week. We out. Have a good week. Word. Check out Dirty Mo Media on YouTube, Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram. Dirty Mo.