Door Bumper Clear - 264 - Richmond II: Taking Your Ride
Episode Date: August 15, 2022Door Bumper Clear is back from a weekend at Richmond Raceway. Brett Griffin, T.J. Majors and Freddie Kraft start out by talking about Freddie’s 40th birthday celebration the previous night. Then, th...ey discuss why the two-round qualifying format needs to be changed. Plus, the crew tries to decipher Freddie’s show notes he wrote at 5:00 am.In Spot On, Spot Off, the guys discuss Kyle Busch running Ty Gibbs up the track then Gibbs repaying the favor while battling for 15th in Stage 2. They question if Busch should be racing Gibbs that aggressively and what it says that Gibbs didn’t back down from the challenge.Kyle Busch got tagged by Ross Chastain in Turns 3 and 4 and said in a post-race interview that he was Chastain’s victim this week. The gang explains why Chastain has consistently been one of the fastest cars every week and debates whether or not other drivers will make his championship run easy.Next, they discuss how the Next Gen car has raced at short tracks this year. The spotters debate the quality of Richmond’s racing and whether or not the track deserves two Cup Series races.Then, Kyle Busch was asked if there is a strategy to get Martin Truex Jr. in the playoffs and compared the question to the 2013 Michael Waltrip Racing scandal. Brett discusses if team orders are allowed and references the Richmond race when Clint Bowyer questionably spun late. Hear Bowyer's former spotter explain details about what forced NASCAR to drop the penalty hammer on MWR. Then, the guys debate if Denny Hamlin would help Truex Jr. or Bubba Wallace win to get into the playoffs at Daytona.Carson Hocevar wrecked Nick Leitz during the Truck Series race at Richmond and has now caused two wrecks in two playoff races. The spotters explain why Hocevar potentially wrecked him to stay on the lead lap and if he should be penalized.Asking prices for charters have reached $20 million according to Adam Stern. Brett explains how teams are gaining equity from the charter system, what teams are in the market for one, and why NASCAR needs to invest more in the lower series.In Reaction Theatre, fans express their thoughts on whether or not Richmond was an entertaining race, Kevin Harvick going for back-to-back wins, and a lullaby for Sunday’s race.Thank you to our presenting sponsor Offerpad and partners Xfinity and RacingUSA.com for making this show possible. Want more DBC? Check out and subscribe to the new DBC YouTube channel! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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Yo, what's up? Welcome to Doorbubble Clear presented by Offpad, and I am 40-year-old Freddie Craft. Thanks, Jason.
Richmond is in the books and we're now two races away from the playoffs. Today we'll cover Kyle Busch and Ty Gibbs battle,
who Ross Chastain got into this week, rising charter prices, and much, much more. Jason, let's roll.
Best in the booth, stumber the Monday to tell you the truth. Giving the thinnies and breaking the rules.
Good call to the holler to bring it to you. Paiser, you pretty, Freddie, you fat.
DJ, you suck. Breaking so bad. Jason is pacing. I'm going to play in the truth.
He's racing. If someone don't crash and he's gonna go mad.
Looking for Freddy, he's killing the bottle.
Casey is making messers like a taut.
The tweet something stupid then don't even bother.
Brett's going to block you like TJ is his spot.
I see them online though FF in the chat.
Tell Rick where to stay off the track.
All of the podcasts are living in fear.
This isn't the download. It's door bumper clear.
Nah, don't get it twisted, baby.
This isn't the download.
Nah. This is door.
Bumper.
Clear, clear, clear.
There you go. I like it.
Hey, everybody. I'm T.J. Majors.
The six cup car, the one truck this weekend.
And Freddie is chugging water.
Freddie turned 40.
Brett Griffin.
And he is showing it.
There's no way in hell he sees 41.
Who?
Me?
Yeah.
Who are you?
I got to throw this out.
What's up?
Freddie Kraft.
I spot for a living.
What's up, Casey?
Wait, who do you spot for?
Who?
That's a bad question.
You don't know right now.
I got Bubba.
And Krauss this.
week I had. And did Bubba have any news last week?
Bubba re-signed. He did? Multi-year deal. Did you resign to?
No. Nope. I think I'm getting fired.
I'm waiting out of negotiation. Way too late. I'm waiting out of negotiations to kick off.
I think they should start today. I think you do an amazing job. Let's call Danny right now.
Let's face time Danny and see if he wants to resigning.
The part is he would answer. Oh, I know. That's the worst part.
Freddie, where is your phone?
My phone's right here.
Okay, give me your phone.
He's got his nuts on there.
I don't think it's a good idea.
I need my notes.
I wrote all my notes at 5.30 a.m.
as drunk as I could possibly be.
So I have, it's all going to be a surprise to me and the listeners what I say today.
Well, loud that we get to know.
Anyways, hey Jason.
Hey, Jason Schultz here.
Me, Tyler Redick, had a really bad race yesterday.
So we're not going to talk about that.
Tyler Redick.
Did I, so I initially asked Tyler to come to Big Al's last night.
That's a lie I asked him.
No, in the garage.
I asked him before the race.
I said, are you coming to big owls?
And he said, no, I don't think so.
He goes, I got Bo.
Not going to make it.
And then, like, in the middle of the race, I was going to text him like, are you sure you don't need a drink?
You're having the worst day ever.
Started off bad.
Real early for Tyler.
Yeah, who wrecked him off before?
Already wrecked himself?
I don't know.
Well, he wrecked.
He did.
He just spun.
He half spunk.
He half spun.
He was in a wreck. He just didn't hit anything.
I'm honestly impressed.
Well, actually, he hit somebody or somebody hit him.
Did he?
Oh, yeah.
Oh, I don't know.
They were three wide for 40th and he wrecked.
So you already know the answer to the question.
I don't know who wrecked him, though.
It was behind me.
It was the time all you have said,
that's the first time somebody's been behind you.
The only time all year I've said,
spin behind you.
If it was behind you, it was behind me and Freddie at that point.
Spin behind you.
Congratulations.
You finally aren't last.
Oh, that's, he had a.
bad qualifying effort too, though, so.
Well.
No, he did not.
He had a bad,
he had a bad group effort.
If you were in group one,
you were screwed.
If you were in group one and qualified six,
you were doomed.
You could not be in a worst group to group one on Saturday.
I mean,
Blaney made it out,
didn't he?
The guys that made it out were okay.
But the guy that was sixth in group A
was 21st on Sunday.
Yeah, that's hard.
There is nothing more screwed up.
than being in group one at Richmond.
Group A.
I don't understand.
That track is so sensitive.
Because TV.
Because TV thinks it's a good show.
Here's what I love.
Somebody in the higher-ups is going to tell you,
we're doing two groups and we're doing this dual group qualifying session
because it's great for TV.
Tell me one race fan in America that thinks it's a good idea
to have multiple rounds of qualifying.
Find me one.
Jason probably likes it.
One doesn't is entertaining.
It's fucking stupid.
The fastest car in the first session should be on the poll.
We shouldn't even go to a second session.
Okay.
Everyone tweet Brett whether he's wrong or right.
Let us know.
But if you don't,
if you're going to do it.
I'm just saying if you're going to have only one qualifying session,
you need to only have one practice session too, though.
I agree with you.
And do you need some sort of break though, too?
How can we put 40 Xfinity cars out there at the same time?
But we can't put 40 cup cars out there at the same time.
We got to split them up in a group so 18.
I just think if you do it all once,
you got to have a little bit of a break too.
But we can also, here's my favorite thing.
Like two minutes before Xfinity practice starts,
we run all the Xfinity cars down to the independent road.
So it's a complete shit show when we go green.
But the cup guys, they just stay in the box until the green comes out.
And then they take off.
And it's not as bad.
Yeah.
And the thing about it is, okay, all right, leave the middle lane open.
Yeah, nah, not today.
Yeah.
I mean, somebody goes down there.
I love it when they go, okay, just so you guys know, the right lane is leaving first,
and Noah is the first guy in a left lane every time, and he takes right on.
And there is no repercussions for disobeying what they say.
Two rounds of qualifying stupid.
Yeah, I'm all for one, but I'm just saying you've got to have a break because if you are the first car out, like if you...
Every person that knows anything about racing that listens to this podcast is going to agree two rounds of qualifying stupid.
I'm still trying to read my notes.
Hold on.
Can we take an hour of break so I can read what I wrote down here?
what's your first line my first note was brett question mark tie question mark
no no what the hell that's del tix that was my first note that was my first note is carson dale
ticks too and i only don't know what that means and i spelled tix t ix pronounced tic talk but but
oh that's what it is it's carson del tic tic talk and i was too drunk to spell ticot right
You just abbreviated it.
That was six letters.
That's supposed to be TikTok, not six letters is a lot.
What's the second note?
Got Cloudy, some cars and went too shit.
Is that true, T.J.?
Freddy, what's your second note?
My second note is Doug running airport.
Doug runs the airport?
I guess.
He did last night.
She is a man.
Like, I scan it.
like scrolled Brett's notes there.
I've only got two though.
Yeah.
The rest of them are old.
The rest of,
because one next one was electric cars.
Yeah.
The rest are old.
I've got a lot of,
I'm going to be honest.
I've got a lot of notes and I don't know
what a fucking one of them says.
What does Doug do at the airport,
ready?
He runs the airport,
apparently.
Did you get fired from spotting?
We're going to all get fired on this show.
Did he get served well last night?
I want to get things started,
but this is so.
Let's go and see what happened.
Okay.
Let's see how this goes.
Kevin Harvick gets his...
Well, I think we should do...
Oh, Kevin Harvick, I don't know.
Maybe I'm drunk too.
Jason, she's recathing the race.
I'm literally trying to start the show.
It's all right.
Not all right?
No, no.
I'm sure Jason said me by Kevin Harvick
because he picked Kevin Harvick.
Yeah, I was supposed to pick him.
60th win.
60th?
60th.
Wow.
Yes.
Isn't that impressive?
That is impressive.
Back to my wins.
Who would have been?
thought he'd have back-to-back wins. I feel like some playoff drivers are a little concerned
leading into, uh, well, the playoffs. Harvick's like that. Some playoff drivers are concerned
going into the playoffs. This may not be our best show. I don't, I don't like our chances
today. We take our worst shows. This one. This one. This one. Anyways, anyways, how was Richmond
for you guys outside of, well, after the post-party? Brett didn't show up until the race started.
Why is that?
I know he didn't show up until Sunday.
I took a day off on Saturday.
I have the best boss in the world,
Chris Rice.
I asked for a day off and I got one.
What do you do during the week?
Nothing.
I do absolutely nothing.
So why did you need a day off?
I only worked like seven jobs.
See,
so I wanted a day off from one of them.
You ditched Daniel.
No, Daniel was off.
They weren't an exfinity race.
There was no expedit.
And Brett ain't doing no truck.
You mentioned,
I wish Jason would not.
bleep this out.
A truck.
I will never spot another truck race.
Although Justin Haley convinced me
last night that he had convinced me earlier
in my life to spot an arca car
when he ran it.
He was very mistaken.
Does he realize you were not going to do that?
There is no chance I'm spotting an arca car either.
Jason took his pen out as soon as
you said trucks and he knew
you're going to say he picked his pen up
to write down the time.
I truly love truck racing.
I enjoy watching.
You love watching truck racing.
I will not spot a
a truck. It's not going to happen.
You get paid $250?
For $250, I'll pay him $250 for me, not to spot the truck.
If any truck drivers are looking for a spotter for the truck series,
I could use the money, so please let me know.
Let me tell this story one time.
Brett quit. The last time Brett spotted a truck,
he quit the truck series mid-race.
He, we're racing.
It's in the middle of the race.
I won't say who it was.
Martinsville, Virginia.
Martinsville, Virginia.
Why not to say who it is?
He's standing next to me.
I don't know, four or five years ago.
What truck number?
13, right?
I don't know.
So he looks at me and goes, hey, proofread this and make sure I haven't left anything out.
It's under caution.
I go, it's like, basically it's like, you.
I'm not the spot in this truck series.
I was like, yeah, I guess you've nailed it.
I don't know.
Are you going to send that?
Boop.
Hit the button, sent it right then.
and that was the last truck race bread ever did.
I'm done.
I'm out.
Why?
Y'all can keep your money
that you can't afford to pay me to start with.
Why?
I'll take it.
Why'd you quit?
Why'd you quit?
Because it's stupid.
What they pay versus what you do
to babysit them idiots.
It's not enough money.
I agree.
If I spotted for Carson Hosevar right now,
I would pin his tall, six foot one,
skinny ass up against the wall
and be like, stop wrecking, mother fuck.
Okay, on that note.
So Richmond.
At least he's,
dressed like a pimp.
He dressed like a
idiot.
I'm sorry for all the F-pombsation.
I'm going to clean it up.
This is another curse word.
This is going to be...
Let's start over.
Three, two, one.
There will not be another cuss word.
I'm T.J. Major.
I spot.
The rest of the show, no cuss words.
That's going to me.
You owe me $100 if you swear.
Oh, God.
No, that's not going to...
What's the first word that rhymes a truck
that comes to your mind?
Gluck.
Jeff Gluck.
Who is coming on our show.
After Martin's Hill.
Monday, I hate to preview.
I hate to say something this far in advance,
because I may not make it a Martinsville.
But Monday after Martinsville,
Jeff Kluck is going to be a show.
So this is going to be his annual...
So I hate to sell him out right here,
but I'm going to sell him out.
Do you know what he said to me when I said,
hey, man.
Can I please be on DVDs?
No, when are you going to be in town?
I love to have you.
He said, this is probably my favorite thing I do all year.
Coming out here?
Yeah.
What a guy?
He didn't have a life.
That's what I was saying.
We got his profile.
picture last year when we started that picture that picture a header picture that picture when we
started talking about our friend Kyle yeah and the look on his face when he was like what the
fuck is going on around here yeah he would be giving you that look right now Kyle Busch kit yeah yeah
legend what's Kyle no it might be another it wasn't a skit it wasn't a skit we were
generally I brought a helmet I can't say genuinely right now I can't say genuinely right now I
brought a helmet from home. It was a skit.
Oh, that's right. Your cheeks were premeditated.
We were foreshadowing
his next ride that skit.
Yeah. Should we try that again?
Do you know what it is? Brett does.
He won't tell anybody. I'm not telling anybody
anything today. All right. I think
let's just get started. Have we started yet? No.
We'll start now.
Anything else to talk about? I have no notes.
Carson Dale ticks two.
Ticks two.
Follow dirty moan media on TikTok. I can't leave by misspelled TikTok.
I can.
I can.
Oh, okay.
Can we do it like a best of
DVC and just leave right now?
Yeah.
Here's rerun last week.
Yeah.
Why don't you?
Kevin Hargwick won.
Somebody won the truck race.
Thanks for coming.
Since the three stooges here
have all dirty moe racing shirts on
and all of them covered.
Won't you all come over here?
At least they wore different ones.
I know.
They're all the,
the whole selection, man.
We lose Alex.
Alex ate his miss getting left.
They said over there on TV this week.
I mean, there's no monitors.
I feel like there's nothing going on there.
I think they knew what was coming.
Good.
I don't need to be on TV right now.
Happy birthday, Freddie.
Thanks.
Yeah.
I just can't wait until when we can afford air conditioning in the studio.
Oh my gosh.
Okay.
I just give up on the BS section.
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Spot on, spot off.
It goes like this.
Spot on means you agree.
I'm spot on.
Are you joking me?
He's lost his mind.
Oh, and by the way, no one ever seems to agree.
And then spot off means you disagree.
Spot off.
Here we fucking go.
This is the dumbest thing I've ever heard.
But if you're T.J.
Um, uh, uh, there's only one correct answer.
I don't know.
It's time for spot on, spot off.
This topic, Kyle Bush sends Ty Gibbs up the track in turn one,
and Gibbs repays the favor in turn three while battling for 15th in stage two.
Freddie, since you are on top of your game today, spot on, spot off.
Spot on, I thought.
Like, we already know Ty is not afraid to put the bumper to somebody.
And the fact that they race their asses off for about 10 laps, really.
it started off KB moved him
Ty went down the next corner
and moved Kyle back
and then they race side by side for a while
Kyle moved Kyle
No yeah Ty moved Kyle back
Listen sorry that's what his notes said
My notes said Kyle
My note said Kyle moved KB
Go home
Let's try this
Go ahead you guys go
I don't think
I'm spot on for giving it back
This is what I told you
She'll see a spot-off, spot-off.
I absolutely told you we should skip it.
Straight to DBC picks.
Let's start one idiot right now.
Yeah, let's just, I mean, what an idiot
could probably be a 30-minute segment right now.
At least.
I was actually watching this.
I was watching this live.
And when I saw Kyle move him, I was like, wow, he moved him.
And I didn't think anything of it.
And then the very next corner, Tide didn't move him.
He punted him.
And I was like, wow, here's what a guy does when he knows he's taking your ride.
Oh.
So I didn't see it.
I saw a replay of it.
Somebody had put it on the internet's.
And I mean, they got,
Ty kind of crowded Kyle into one,
like, which you're short tracking.
You kind of do that.
And Kyle wasn't giving it up.
And they hit and Ty went up to hill.
He got it pointed down to straightaway
and drove her off into three a little deep.
And I think he just got in hot.
Yeah.
He definitely did not mean to do that.
Yeah, 100%.
There's a zero chance that.
tie meant to hit that car.
Yeah, zero, 100 percent, 10 in front of a zero.
But if my name's on the building, it says Joe Gibbs racing, I probably race with a little
bit of swag too.
Listen, you raise people, we say on here a lot of time, you raise people the way they
raise you.
If he don't, he doesn't.
Wasn't he just on the Ziozina download and he said that Kyle was giving him some pointers?
Like, no, not to.
That don't matter.
Not to flip the bird.
Yeah, he gave him a pointer.
to one.
He got appointed.
I'll tell you what the, I mean, you could tell as dedicated as tie was to getting pointed.
You can see when that car came off the corner what was coming.
And then when you see in the three, you see that gap close up.
You're like, oh, he's going for him.
Oh, yeah.
You know when they're going for it.
Oh, you can tell when they bomb it in there, it's like, oh, boy, here we go.
Yeah.
But we see guys get moved all the time and they don't do anything.
This guy just got here and he's already like, screw you.
You ain't going to hit me.
I appreciate that.
I just laughed.
even when they were side by side.
Like I'm, I was literally going to say something above it.
Like, do you think he's mad yet?
Because, like, Kyle had caught Ty, moved them.
And then they got back, they started messing with each other.
And then, but like, Ty just stayed outside of him for about five laps and just race the ass.
He race his ass off.
Did he race others like that as well?
Probably.
Not like he did, Kyle.
And I was going to be like, is he mad yet?
You think he's mad yet?
So you're foreshadowing.
Well, we got to big owls last night.
I asked Freddie as if he were at home watching on TV.
I was like, hey, yeah.
You think they showed the tie and Kyle thing,
like when they hit each other on TV,
everybody's like,
I don't know,
I was spotting.
But it was awesome in person.
So I'm glad to know they showed it
because if Jason put it on a show sheet,
obviously they showed it.
And it was probably a 15 lap battle.
They felt like 15 laps.
It was awesome.
Good racing.
Best Richmond race I've seen a long time.
Contact between Ross Chastain and Kyle Bush
sends Bush around and post race.
He says,
got chastain's this week.
You were his victim this week.
Oh, Brett, spot on, spot off.
The Ross Chastain, I don't give a
tour, continues.
I've got two sets of.
This was a brand.
I didn't mean to cuss.
Can you pay me for this?
No.
You ask for money a lot.
Jason needs money.
You don't need it.
You got on golden goosey shoes.
You drive a big old Audi A5.
You don't need money.
What do you drive out there?
What I just noticed was I have two sets of notes
for the same topic and it's not this one.
Oh, the next gen one.
Look, man, I truly believe this.
Ross Chastain is arguably,
weekend and week out,
everywhere we go, road course,
we'll call it play racing,
even though we don't want to play it anymore.
Wherever we go,
this guy has an abundant amount of speed,
qualified on the front row,
was close to his first cup series poll.
God, there's no way in hell
these other guys on a racetrack,
let him win a championship.
ship. There's no way. Not
based on how much
he wrecks everybody. I mean,
he causes almost a wreck
every single week.
At least one out of two weeks.
Who causes more wrecks than Ross Chastain right now, T.J.
Nobody. Nobody.
I mean, as far as like racing
causes wrecks. With fast cars, nobody.
On the roof, it's like,
was that, we all, like, wait, see a replay,
and then we all look at each other.
Was that, was that Ross again?
That Ross get that guy?
You know, like, even if it wasn't really, like, I don't know that this was 100% Ross's fault.
Like, there's somebody shipped.
I think it was Ty Dillon shipped in there three.
I don't think it's like, it don't matter.
Like, who's in Todd Dillon's car yesterday?
Lewis Hamilton, I think it was.
Damn.
Where did he come from?
The high lane?
Probably the UK.
The high side.
I mean, that guy was fast.
I was just glad this week.
He never been that.
passing a cup car.
I was just glad this week that Ross Chastain admitted that he should have lifted last week
instead of wrecking with Christopher Bell, like you argued with me about it.
You think Ross caused a wreck again last week?
I'm just saying he gave an interview this week where he said I should have lifted and not brought a caution out.
What should he have done in Richmond?
No.
I still don't think it was his fault at Richmond.
I mean, it was still the Ross Chessain, don't give a to her.
TJ, do you still think it's his fault?
No, I think it's Christopher Bell's fault.
last week. You got a guy coming with tires and you're switching lanes in front of them.
Get the hell out of the damn way.
All right.
Well, if that's what you think.
I'm just telling you what Ross said.
If he apologized for it, it's his fault.
I'm just telling you what Ross said, not me, Ross.
The guy that was driving the car, Ross, that guy.
Maybe he's planning ahead.
Maybe he's trying to wreck somebody else next week.
Maybe he's trying to get back on the good side.
Well, you said he didn't wreck anybody this week.
Ross Crash Tane needs to stop.
No, he doesn't.
keep going Ross.
He's going to hit you
and then you're going to be really mad on the show.
Then I'll change my story.
Until then.
I've seen you do it.
Until that point,
I'm going with it.
This is going to be like a 40 minute show.
Yeah,
real quick.
Honestly,
Mike Davis,
if you're listening,
I deserve a race.
I think at this point...
They're paying you to do this?
Did you get paid?
You shouldn't?
I need to get paid and I deserve a raise.
TJ,
this nice one is for you
because Freddie has two
separate notes.
No, this is the notes I got for it.
But actually what I just realized was,
I just titled that note wrong.
It was about Ross,
but it just said next year.
Should we just go to the next one while we're on that topic with Kyle?
I mean,
geez.
I wanted to break up the Kyle Bush show a little bit and spot on,
spot off today.
I'll bet you did.
Still got that infatuation.
He does.
He'll bring it.
He's the only one that made in Richmond interesting.
I thought it was a good race.
I don't think a lot of people agreed with you.
Wow.
It was better.
Compared to like what Richmond needs to be.
Yeah.
T.J.
the next-gen-car's performance at short tracks heading into the playoffs.
Spot on, spot off.
I thought that was a better race in the spring race,
and as wide as that track got made it very interesting at times.
That's the widest I've seen Richmond in a long time.
I told Bubba, I was like, Bell's running the third dash, the second dash.
And I was like, actually, he just drove by five guys on the second dash.
So you might want to try to get up there.
Yeah, when I was explaining, it's going to be hard to describe this,
but literally they're running almost all the way to the wall, mid-mid-pack.
It was like 47 started doing it first, and he gained a few spots,
and then Bell started doing it.
And then the entire middle part of the field was doing that.
And for like 20, 30 laps, they were all over the racetrack back there.
And I'm like, I don't know who's fast or who's not.
There's so many different lines going on back here.
But then I noticed a lot of them guys faded pretty hard late that run,
but the track was probably really green up there,
so they used up their stuff,
but it set up the high side for, you know,
decent speed later in the race.
So I thought it was a,
I thought it was a good race.
There was lots of different lines.
We weren't line locked to the bottom.
We weren't searching for the,
the PJ or whatever it is.
We weren't searching for the resin or whatever.
You know what I mean?
Like, so you're just naturally finding grooves around the track.
which I like.
Todd Dillon ain't passed that many cars in his career.
He passed more cars in stage one yesterday, to your point,
than he's probably passing his career.
Like, he got up top.
Him and Ricky Stenhouse were the first two I saw up there,
and they were flying.
And it's like when you got in that 25-second bracket,
that's when that top really came to life.
It reminded me of when we would put the sealer on Richmond.
And as you went on through the night,
obviously we're not night racing during the day.
That's stating something obvious.
but we were able to move around.
It's been a long time since I've seen Richmond
to widen out like that.
When it's right around the bottom,
it's miserable to race on
and it's miserable to spot on.
I thought going into yesterday,
the Richmond International Raceway
or whatever they call it these days,
was not deserving of two dates anymore.
I was like, man, we need one time
because the spring was packed.
Yesterday was not packed.
I'm like, maybe we don't need two races here anymore.
But the fan experience they've got going on inside
is really cool.
And I think,
thought it was a great honest guy for richmond like i thought it was one of the best richmond
races we've seen in a very long time it was good my my concern is everybody equates richmond
to phoenix like you you try stuff at richmond because you know you go to phoenix and it wasn't a
i think it was a great race i mean obviously it was hard to pass and guys it was basically i love the
if you're a naskar or racing purist the reason why there's passing is because of different
pitch strategies guys are guys are on
different tires here and there so they're coming and going
like Phoenix if you're going to equate that there's no
there's no fall off at Phoenix so the racing
is is going to suffer there but
you know I thought it was interesting yesterday like there was
there was a couple guys I think it was like the 47
the 48 the 99
them guys tried like a different strategy
didn't work out for them but if like if they
caught a caution right it was going to work out for
him eventually but it was
like just how Bell had a shot yeah
I think Denny like chalked this up
Danny he'll tell you this is like
his whatever it is,
43rd race,
him and Gabehart
should have won
because they were
ahead of Bell.
Like they pitted,
like I don't know,
what,
20, 30 carlings ahead of
Bell came out behind him
and Bell ended up
on the four's bumper
at the finish line
on the same,
like they had pitted
like a lap or two away
apart from each other.
So like the,
I like a race like that
where you guys kind of
get off a strategy
and then like pit 10,
15 laps apart.
And the tire fall off
was great.
I thought the truck race
was a lot.
The truck race
kind of suffered
because everybody just
fell off together.
Like it was like we all, we had tire fall off.
The tires were falling off like we wanted.
But unfortunately like it didn't seem to matter if you saved your stuff or like it wasn't.
Yeah.
I don't know if it was enough.
Yeah.
I don't know if it was quite enough.
So, you know, but last yesterday you could notice a difference like you saw Bell and
Danny at the end of the race.
They pitted, I don't know, 10 laps after Harvick.
But it made a huge difference.
And I mean, if the start finish line was on the backstress yesterday,
Christopher Bell would have won the race.
Gabe Hard deleted a tweet.
Did he?
Oh.
100% because yesterday a fan had tweeted basically questioning the 11's pit strategy
under green and Jim Utter retweeted and said makes no sense and Gabe Hart retweeted that
and he said that's why I get paid to make pit calls and you get paid to tweet about it and it's
gone no way I saw it definitely happened it happened but it's gone I was going to pull it up
and I was going to give Gabe Hart credit for it because I thought it was actually
awesome, but it's gone. His last tweet was in August 4th.
No, you could, it's probably in the replies. Yep. Actually, it's in the replies.
Okay. Okay. What do I click on?
Well, that's why I get paid to make these pick calls and you get made the tweet about them.
That's awesome. And look, I love sports media. I truly do. But I also love the fact,
Twitter is we get to read everybody's text messages. That's what Twitter is. And I thought that was
awesome. Yeah, no, you're right there. And they literally, if they would have, if they would
had a...
I should have known Gabe Hart
wouldn't delete anything.
Yeah, he wasn't deleted that.
Because he's the man.
He, if they would have had a decent pit stop,
the 11 would have won the race yesterday.
Yeah.
Like, not even a great pitch stop.
They give away a lot of stuff.
They got, I think, I forget,
I don't know how many races they've won,
maybe 16 of the,
I think they got like 130 starts together.
I think if I were a driver,
I would pick Chris Gaypart to be my crew chief right now.
I think he's, pick him.
Yeah, I would.
I think he's the guy.
The cars are fast.
I mean, they were sitting outside of the playoffs and didn't panic and then bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, start rattling off wins.
They're up to like 12th. They were right in front of us. They were 30th. They were right in front of us last week or two weeks ago. They were like 20th. Yeah. And now they're 12th.
Yeah, we talked about that though. We said it would happen. Oh, well, I mean, he's not a 20th place.
Tell me a crew chief you would rather have over Chris K. Bart. Right now, Roddy Childers.
There's one two in a row.
Okay, this next one is back to the Kyle Busch show.
Kyle Busch is asked if there is a strategy to get Martin Trex Jr.
in the playoffs and says, that's a bad question.
We're at Richmond.
I have an itch.
Spot on, spot off, Freddie.
Brett, this is my Brett Ty.
I think this is my Brett Ty.
Brett Ty question.
It wasn't Ty.
I thought it was Ty Gehers, but I just realized it's Ty Norris.
Is it hot in there?
I spotted a great race at Richmond that night.
Followed right, followed all your commands.
Let me ask you a question.
I didn't have any commands.
Let me ask you a question.
And you might not be able to answer this without getting suspended.
Brett's like I'm dying.
Was there?
What's Denny's fire, uh, fireball break, bathroom break?
Was there talk about this before Richmond?
Not, not to me.
Okay.
that's that the question like because like a lot of times if we have code words or something like that
here's what people need to talk about if there was a he's already choking these conversations
are way above pay grades I mean I mean literally Casey asked a question on here I think to Denny
or somebody did about or last week it was about team orders to get uh true X in the playoffs
Like every organization
Every organization wants
What's best for that organization?
Well, if you're Michael Walter Racing
At the time
You want two cars in the playoffs or one
You want two
So you call your race accordingly
I think what
What transpired there
I don't think Clint did
I mean you guys are going to get pissed off of this
I don't think club boy did anything wrong
Why is that
because I've seen people wreck on purpose for 40 years of my life.
God damn it, I just lost $100.
It should be $200.
I am a man of my word, Jason.
I do pay when I lose bets.
I see another $100.
Can you just...
Casey, go buy some more golden goosey shoes.
All right.
But I've seen...
Dale Jr. admitted to wrecking on purpose of Bristol.
When a driver wrecks another driver on purpose,
it is intentionally bringing out a crossion, okay?
A crossion.
Across.
I will stand on my grave.
I guess I want to.
won't be able to do that.
I would do that.
But it sounds like a hell of an idea.
My ghost will stand on my grave and say,
Clint Boyer did not do anything wrong at Richmond,
where Michael Walshup Racing royally f***ed up,
I'm not paying you 200, Jason.
Where they royally f***ed up was the radio chatter
between the spotter slash team owner
slash general manager and Brian Vickers,
which was publicly displayed of Pitt.
well I don't want to pit.
Okay, well, you're going to pit.
I don't want to pit.
I'm good.
No, no, no, no.
You're going to pit because we need this and this and this to happen.
That's where he screwed up.
Okay.
So I don't know if Clint Boyer wrecked on purpose.
I'm not driving a race car.
I can tell you when he wrecked, I was not looking at him.
I was looking at turn one.
And I heard a car wreck and I looked and Jeff Dickerson was filling in for my friend.
T.J. Majors.
That weekend.
You already there?
I was there.
I thought I was there.
No, you wasn't there.
What year was this?
13.
Every year you had intestinal problems.
You sure wasn't before that.
You were not at Richmond.
September 2013.
I walked down there.
Jeff Dickerson came down to me.
He didn't even know when he's here or not.
That's right.
You're supposed to be the circle.
I was watching it.
You were watching it.
Oh, sure.
So I go down there.
I actually, Jeff Dickerson walked down to me and he was like, hey, what happened?
I was like, I don't know.
Did you hit me?
Because, again, I wasn't watching.
I mean, we're always watching.
I watched my car 25% in front of me.
My car, I was looking into turn one.
I heard a car wreck.
I looked down. It was me and I'm like, damn.
So I asked Dickerson, did you hit me? And he's like, no.
Did you not think it was weird when somebody's on your radio going, is it hot in there?
That ain't what he said.
They said, is your arm itchy?
Clint legitimately had poison ivy all over his body.
And that was my thing too. Like if when he got post race, if he had taken his fire suit off and tied it around his belt like they do all the time, he was covered in poison ivy.
that's probably why that was the code word.
I don't know if there was a code word.
I didn't see a code word.
I made a last word.
Was that a 400 lap race?
Well, ideally.
He made it like 300.
It was also the race where Jeff Gordon did something
just as whatever absurd in the middle of the race too.
Like him and Jimmy Johnson had this game going on trying to get Jeff in.
Like, listen, the reality is people are trying to maximize their opportunity
individually. And then as a team, they're also trying to maximize their opportunity. And that's
what Michael Walter Racing was probably found guilty of. That's why they got $300,000 worth of
fines. I mean, they were basically put out of business. They were put out of business. I agree with
you there. That was the same as the death penalty. That's when Napa raised their hand and said,
hey, we're leaving. And it was SMU football back in the 80s or 90s, whatever it was when
SMU got the death penalty. I mean, it was the same thing. So,
But again, I will go to my grave saying Clint Boy didn't do anything wrong.
Okay.
He read.
Going back to Truex and like trying to help him.
My ideal situation at Daytona is Bubba and Truex are side by side off of four and the 11's coming with a run.
Where does the 11 go?
He's an idiot if he don't push Bubba.
We talked about last week.
Who would you rather having a chase?
Would you rather race Martin?
for championship or Bubba?
Where would Joe Gibbs expect?
I would think he would expect him to go for Bubba either way.
I would.
I don't think so.
He would hope he went from Martin.
Joe wants his cars in.
Joe wants his cars in, I'm sure.
Should call him, ask him.
Let's call him.
I don't think, does anybody have Joe Gibbs's phone number?
I think he's that guy that calls him a block number all the time.
I have heard he does do that.
Yeah, if you get a call from a block number and it could be like two in the morning,
you better answer.
I still think you need the call.
me last night?
All chance.
I still think you need to call Denny.
Brett, this one is for you.
That guy has a phone number.
The other guy don't.
He does.
Yeah.
Are you done?
Yeah.
This one's for you.
Carson Hosevar makes contact with and sends Nick Leitz.
So sorry if I got that wrong.
Who?
Around in the truck race as Hosevar has now caused
two wrecks in two playoff races.
Brett, spot on, spot on.
I'm spot off.
According to what I was, listen, I had to turn a truck race off.
I was so bored.
I will be the first person to admit that.
I watched stage one.
I went to the Yankees, Boston Red Sox game for baseball.
I turned back in stage three.
I couldn't take it anymore because there was no passing, no wrecking, no nothing.
But according to my good friends who told me the story, Carson, Hoselar, who wears them hideous hats like LeBron James wears,
caused a wreck on purpose to steal a lead lap.
so I'm not I'm not for that man I'm out I don't I don't understand he got rewarded for this essentially like he yeah he slipped up off of four I think I'm assuming Chandler was leading
Chandler gets underneath him and he goes in there and wrecks this poor guy who I don't know how to say his name either because I never heard of him but uh and the guy didn't do anything wrong
he's just into like he's I mean he's a lap down he's just kind of hanging out and he was running way up high out of the way and Carson not only wrecks him but as
he wrecks him, he follows him to the wall.
Like he turns him, follows him to the wall.
So now the leader's gone.
Like the leader's 10, 15 o'clock lengths ahead of him.
And NASCAR's like, oh,
uh, off the loop data,
the 42's back on the lead lap.
I'm like, oh,
so.
Okay.
So what is a difference, Freddie, between the question you're
going to read to ask me that I was just going to talk about?
What is the difference between him wrecking that guy intentionally to bring out
a caution and you allegedly thinking that Clint Boyer wrecked on
purpose of Richmond?
No, this is a different question.
but I thought you were going to go somewhere else
because here's what I was going to get at was if you're the lucky dog
so if they if you move these two trucks back 10 feet
and put them behind the leader into turn one
and Carson's the first because the other guy was on a multiple laps down
and Carson turns that guy behind the leader
guess what he doesn't get the lucky dog because he's involved with the accident
well now just because he's 10 foot forward than that
just happened to be ahead of leader by a bumper getting into one.
I don't know where the loop is.
They had to go back pretty far to find that loop to get him ahead.
But like what is, it's the same principle.
The guy is turning this guy that's in the way.
He's not racing him.
He caused the caution on purpose to save himself a lap.
So where's this $100,000 fine?
There should be, there should be some, you know, I don't know,
but it's the problem with Clint was it was on the radio.
That was the only problem with Clint was...
The problem with Clint was not on our radio.
The problem with Clint was Brian Vickers's radio.
Yeah.
100%.
I'm telling you right now.
If all you had on Clint Boyer was, how's your arm or does your arm itch, there is zero
reason to find Clint Boyer, to take points away from Clint Boyer and to impact that race team
in any way, shape, or form.
The problem with Clint Boyer was all on Brian Vickers's radio.
So it burned them down.
And it sucked because of all the race.
race teams I've been on.
That was a great race team.
Fun people.
Was that the year they,
that was the year they added Jeff to the playoffs, right?
They added a fucking extra driver.
I've already paid Jason.
No,
that's a dumbest,
Brian Francis is ever.
Well,
I probably ain't a dumbest he's ever done.
That's the dumbest thing he's ever done.
That's the dumbest thing he's ever done in public.
That we've gone on about in public.
Yes.
I've added notes,
by the way,
so this is it.
I'm done.
Freddy's going to stop talking the rest of the show.
I don't know that the notes have really helped you much,
to be completely honest.
Shout out to,
to, and I honestly, I almost went and told this guy that's in the airport yesterday,
but Steve Phelps coming around to us, look, I've been in a sport a long time.
The only time I ever saw the president on the roof was when he was coming up there to rip my ass.
Fact.
Until Steve Phelps got there.
Third time this year that Steve Phelps has come around to the spotters before the race,
President of NASCAR Steve Phelps, and thanked us.
Like, touched all of us on our back, shook our hand.
I'm assuming he did that to you yesterday.
I did see him.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Great.
great. Hey, look, we don't get a lot. Look, we get on an elevator with these guys sometimes
and they don't even speak to us. The higher ups in NASCAR, not Scott Miller. Scott Miller is
the best. Maybe because of all of the that you've said on this show, they don't want to talk to you
because then you'll bring it up on the show. My point is this. We need, we, I will say this. I think
spotters have the best relationship with NASCAR we've ever had from a communication standpoint.
Kip is awesome.
I've never personally met Brad.
Have you guys met Brad?
I've hired by.
Never like, I don't know who he is.
Like, I would love for him to come to the roof and be like, hey, man, I'm Brad.
Because when Brad does something dumb, I probably won't about it if I met him.
You will.
And I like him.
You will.
You will.
He still will.
But y'all get my voice.
Yeah, no.
I get you fun.
All right.
At least you agreed to something.
Thankfully, we are at the final topic.
because I don't know that we can handle it much more.
Asking prices for charters have reached $20 million, according to Adam Stern.
$1 million.
If you count off all the times, Brett, so on this episode, we'll get to $20 million.
Spot on, spot off.
I mean, that's crazy.
I mean, I'm almost spot off on it because this is getting ridiculous.
I love it.
I think it's the best thing ever.
It's ridiculous.
You don't like money?
I mean, that's so, if you want to get into the sports,
what do you think the Dallas Cowboys are worth?
I mean, right now that are worth 20 million?
They should be really right now.
How much of the Buffalo Bills worth?
A lot more than the Cowboys.
You're crazy.
Dallas Cowboys' number one sports franchise in America.
Arguably the world.
I realize you Liverpool soccer clowns are going to make fun of me.
Soccer is ridiculous.
This is a good thing, man.
Owners have had nothing to lean on in terms of equity in their sport for a very long time.
We just talked about my quadracing.
When it went out of business,
what do you think it was?
was worth.
Dimes on the dollar.
Yeah,
whatever it was in the share.
It was worth whatever that building was worth because anybody can buy a race car
parts.
Anybody can hire people, right?
So I am all for this, but I'll ask you guys this.
If you're Rick Ware and you've got two charters that are worth $40 million,
would you keep racing or would you sell?
I would, I think that you're going to see Rick Ware.
I would sell both of them right now.
But I think you'll see him sell.
sell one and then hopefully I'm hoping he invests some of that money back into an alliance with
SHR with possibly Cole Custer driving but it's weird because we hear all the cold customer
rumors but if he goes to one car is he going to get rid of Cody like I don't Cody where yeah
I don't know I don't see him getting rid of Cody so I don't know how that works but like you
would hope like good point like these guys I'm
I love it because I just found out that my team's charter is worth $7 million more than what they paid for one last year.
And I'm negotiating a contract right now.
It's been a great job by it, by the way.
I'm not doing it here.
I assure you.
But this is good for all of us.
Like this should raise the value of the entire sport.
Spotters, truck drivers, whatever it is.
You know, everybody should be feeling the effects of this.
Guess what?
You won't.
I will.
So obviously,
Adam knows this
because there are
multiple people
trying to get a charter.
Have you heard of
who that might be?
Is that a Matt colleague?
It's not a secret.
It's Danny.
It's Dale.
It's probably a bad colleague.
It, you know,
I don't know.
I mean,
20 million Dale is going to have a hard time.
There's that other new team too.
Oh, that,
yeah,
I mean,
I don't know if there are three cars
week in and week out
that are way off the pace.
The 15.
There's four, really.
the 15, the 51, and the 78.
And the next car that's not way off, but is off, is the 77.
It is very obvious that the seven car is on a different budget than the 77 car.
Do you agree with that?
Yeah, most part.
Yeah.
I mean, Corey is a full-time guy, so obviously it's going to go on.
A plan for motors.
And the 77 is not with Josh Balikki, Landon Castle, split in the schedule, whatever, whoever else drives.
car. So for me, man, I look, I'm all for this. I think it's a good thing. I think owners have
finally got a reason to stick around. We've lost a lot of owners in this sport over the years.
I mean, we could go through the whole freaking name, Junior Johnson's, the Bill Davis's, the
Robert Yates, the Wood brothers, they were going extinct until Ford came in and saved a day.
They went from a full-time schedule for what seemed like 55, 60 years to a part-time schedule.
And then Ford came in and said, hey, let us help you. Let us partner with Penske. And let's get you
back on the right foot.
Like we can't afford to keep losing owners and expect the sport to thrive.
So I mean,
Jeff Burton sat right between me and TJ and said,
I want owners to get filthy rich on race cars.
They're not going to.
That's a fictitious dream.
But this is a big step in the economics,
business model.
I mean,
look at the truck series.
How the hell can,
I mean,
look,
how many trucks do the truck series in home at Richmond?
Five?
Yeah, four or five.
Like that tells me that the,
truck series is doing something right from an ability of I can show up and afford to race.
I think their motor program, T.J. Bell and I were talking about this yesterday. I think their motor
program is a good thing. But their purse is a joke. It's a joke. What you get paid to run 10th
in a truck series will literally not pay your team's travel to get to the racetrack.
I had conversations with this about Tyler Young and he basically said like running one truck
you'll lose your ass. It is useless to you. He's like, you need to run.
two, probably three trucks to be sustainable in the truck series.
Like, so just to that point, like, you're not going to.
You got two people spending a lot of money in trucks, KBM, which I don't know if
Kyle Bush is personally spending any money.
I would say not.
And you got Thor Sport.
Those two entities are spending.
Or Gildlet, Dave Gillil and God, I mean, GMS puts a bunch of money into it, not as much
as they have.
A lot of rumors they're getting out.
A lot of rumors they're doing out.
done. Why would they be done? If they were making money, would they quit the truck series?
Probably not. The model's broke. NASCAR needs to pump more money into the lower series.
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Yeah, this is Andrew.
I am the Brett Griffin Fan Club president of the Indiana chapter.
Oh, really yes!
Way to go, Josh.
Way to go!
The data tells me that Bubba still sucks.
Freddy, you can't see shit.
I just want to say, I'm not drunk.
My great-grandma
did I run him,
and she's 90-000-A.
Reactions theater.
Rules in three.
Two, one.
Jason, I'm going to apologize in advance.
But I finally found something
faster than Xfinity X-Fi internet.
And that was me turning off that
Mother fucking race today.
Holy shit.
Why the fuck are we racing twice at Richmond a year?
There is absolutely no reason for it.
We do not need to snooose fest a year.
Give one of the dates back to Rhode America.
I don't want 20 fucking road courses on the schedule.
But holy shit, we don't need to be racing there twice a year.
God damn.
You think he's from Richmond?
He has a hundred bucks.
Geez, oh man.
No, it's just you.
I look I don't I don't want to see Richmond have two races anymore and I know people probably in that area are going to get upset but I think that it's a one race in the spring and if you're in the playoffs you might deserve two races if you're Daytona Charlotte
and I just I don't I think we've changed and we look when we go somewhere once are the stands more packed yes Michigan was slam let me ask you a question
How about St. Louis?
Pocono.
Pocan.
Slammed.
Slammed.
Let me ask you this.
On that topic, you have one race slam full.
Is that better than two races at half to three quarter full?
The problem is it ain't about the people in the stands.
I know it's not.
Because it's about the people watching on TV.
But the people watching on TV get skewed when there's nobody in the stands.
Oh, we've been part of them conversations numerous times.
we're in a suite or something
they're going
where's
where's everybody at
like where you're trying to sell sponsorship
for the next season
and you're like there's
there's nobody here
there needs to be competition
to get to the track
you like you know what I mean like
you got to get your tickets early
because there might not be a seat
then that boost
you know everything
look at the Dirty Mo Media experience
that we do
it's a small
small group
right
it's an exclusive
opportunity and is a high demand.
I think when you go to one race at a racetrack, it's a higher demand.
I agree.
I'm just saying from a racetrack standpoint, like, I get it.
If you have one date, it's going to be sold out, slam full.
But if you have two dates and it's three-quarter full, then it's still better than one.
TV pays them so much money, they don't care for anybody.
Exactly.
You got two dates.
That's a problem.
I mean, we got to have, we got to have butts in the seats.
And we should.
I mean, I thought Richmond was a good crowd yesterday.
It wasn't as good as a spring, but I thought the race was better.
Oh, God.
The race is always going to be better during the day there.
Yeah, I'm just saying it's spring this trend day too.
Race was awesome.
Do they both turn of day now?
I just thought if race was good, man.
Yeah, strategy.
You had guy short pitting, long pitting all over the racetrack.
I'm not sure what could have made that race better.
Nothing.
For that, for that gentleman on the call right there.
Like, what else do you need to see?
gentleman or whatever
that was very nice of you
call number one
the gentleman caller
go ahead caller
next caller
ladies and gentlemen
cue the spooky organ music
and get out those Halloween cobwebs
because old man Harve is looking like a real contender
in that old four eyes express
bah
bah bah
I'm not getting the Harvec Halloween
reference.
I may be drunk.
Well, you might?
I've heard some witty things
and that just wasn't one.
I mean, I agree with him.
Harvick is peaking
when he's supposed to peek.
But if he had to run through
one more quarter, he wasn't winning yesterday.
Yeah, it don't matter though.
I mean, he is
strong right now.
And this is what Harvick does, man.
He kind of just average,
he's average for a while.
Then he gets on these hot streaks.
He's a modern day Mark Martin.
Yeah, he's...
No, that's Denny.
He's a stud.
All right, Jason, I don't want to hear your stupid take on Richmond
saying that, oh, this track is so boring, there's not a lot of crashes.
Me and my White Claw, millennial friends, can't pay attention for more than 30 minutes.
You know what, the race was good.
I had a lot of strategy.
The groove widened out.
Those guys were running all over the place, and the finish was good.
So, no, Jason, save it.
I like that guy.
Let's have him on the show.
I can't believe you picked that one.
I know. That's what I was saying about. I was listening to it.
Bad bus to pick down.
I judge the quality races by the quality reaction theater calls.
You can see guys getting loose into one. Like you could see guys catch it.
At least I did anyway. I saw a few guys get loose into one.
I saw my guy get losing to one at every lap I felt like.
Yeah. So I mean that.
There was a big difference between the truck race and the cup race.
Oh, 100%. Yeah.
The truck race, I agree with you. It was a snooze fast.
Yeah. The problem with the-kella 1 to 10 a suck and it was a sucker.
The problem with the truck race was everybody had to stay on the same strategy because you only get whatever it was.
Let's do this right now.
Let's lay this out there.
The Xfinity series and the truck series only need a halftime.
They do not need three stages.
They're too short.
They suck.
At the same time, I like what the Cup series has done with the stages this year because the first stage is essentially a comp caution.
It's usually like, it's not bad.
It's usually a fuel window.
Whatever the fuel window is.
and then the second one forces you to have strategy.
Well, yesterday stage 1, 70 laps, stage 2, 160 laps.
You got a pit at some point, no matter where the cautions fall.
You got a pit in stage 2.
So truck race, the tires worked out where you couldn't take tires before a lap 70.
You couldn't do it.
So if there was a caution at 50, if you pitted, you're going to get run over at stage.
So there's not even a, there's no chance to flipping anything.
Somebody is going to get hired at some point in NASCAR, and they're going to bring up this
in a board meeting and say, hey, there's too many stages in the lower series.
We need one stage break.
And it's not going to change anything other than make the racing better.
It's not going to change who makes the playoffs.
Do you have an interview?
Me?
I don't think they would accept my resume.
I don't think he's on their list.
Oh, he's on their list.
Oh, he's on that list.
That's a different list.
Rock goodbye baby on the black top.
When the green blows the.
bodies will drop this
bull-so boring
can't stay awake for the most
god-awful racing
Richmond takes the cake
These people are idiots
What the what is going on in a reaction here this week?
One guy just said there was the best Richmond race
ever this guy said it's terrible
So what it is you know what it is right
It's how their driver did
Like that's that's
No it's because there weren't a ton of wrecks
That's what it was there was not
I just don't there's two wrecks
three wrecks.
Yeah, but they weren't.
But Richmond used to have.
Right.
Yeah.
That's what it was.
But these cars are harder to wreck.
There's more downforce.
There's a wider tire.
They have more to lean on.
They're harder to wreck than the cars were in 2007.
I'll tell you what plays into that.
We talked about it last week with Ross when Ross wrecked Christopher.
You have to be aware.
There's differing strategies.
So if you're on the two stop per stage strategy, you come into a pit.
You're going to blow by the guys obviously that haven't pit yet.
But you have to be careful.
because you don't want a caution.
You know if you cause a caution,
your race is ruined at that point.
So there is a lot of guys that drive carefully
on new tires or
however it is because they know
that they can't afford to have a caution.
And I think that's why you see this race
have these long green runs because of the different
strategies that guys know they can't afford a caution.
And like Christopher Vell got lucky.
He got lucky to the wreck because he waved around
and he messed up on pit road,
waved around.
And the caution came out just a couple laps into that run.
And it put him right back on a lead lap.
He pitted it was probably, what, four or five laps in?
And that gave him an advantage as well.
So he lined up heck like just into low teens.
So he essentially went from being a lab down, waving around,
catching the perfect caution to having tires and lining up into low teens.
It might have been the same caution.
We had got the lucky dog at the end of the second stage.
and we restarted our like we have a number system for the restarts you to choose and we were 33rd on the racetrack
we were in one lap Ross dubbed Kyle or whoever however that worked out and I restarted 13th one lap later
so I just got handed 20 positions because I went from the tail to the field and lucky dog and maybe
tires too depending on we didn't put tires on but no in front of you though yeah but like I literally
gained 20 spots in one caution
just from moving from 33rd
to the restart to 13th. Just lock.
Yeah. I mean, that's how it goes.
Hey, sometimes you gotta have it.
Yep.
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I can't wait for as TV.
Hey, uh, maybe we should ask for
people that actually went to the race to send some tweets on how they thought it was in person.
I mean, what did you think in person? Would you go back? And that's the thing about racing.
It's always better in person. I don't care how great it was on TV or even how bad it was.
I've never been to a racetrack and had a bad time. Dude, they were four and five wide sometimes yesterday.
Yes. How do you not, how does that not look on that first restart when Legano passed like four rows of cars on the
outside? We're all like, oh, he's not going to make it. And they start fanning out. And they go all over the track.
I'm like, it's hard to explain this, Brad, but they're running their left,
their left sides on that white dot on top line there.
I think your fan's broke.
I think the fans broke.
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Send in your questions on Twitter each week
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and will answer the best ones.
Freddie, you are so excited.
No, I'm not.
You're reading this.
There's no chance I read this.
Jason picked this one just to hear your voice.
How you said it earlier was way better.
Let's hear it.
This first one is.
just say it
just say it
Freddy said it
you can spell it if you want
this first one
read it right now
stop making me laugh
I'm gonna cry
this first one is from
at B underscore
D underscore
better than C
now what was his name
B underscore
pull it together
get your
get your shit together
and read the guy's name
he deserved
he got a good question
it was Friday
earlier
think his brother is C
underscore
question is from at B underscore
DeCoc.
I still didn't hear you.
I didn't hear you at all.
You got us read the name.
It's not his name.
It's how Freddy said it earlier.
I wish we were recording.
The guy's name was at B underscore decoq.
Is what the guy's name is?
48.
I know how you said it before.
It's funny.
I don't know what was DECock or DECO.
Is it DECOC?
Is it DECK or DECOck?
Can we put any of this in this show?
Jason had you.
Oh, maybe it's, is it?
No, it's there's a.
I thought it was a CH.
What was his question?
If you were Dale Jr.,
who would you put in the nine car next year?
Freddie, you loved his name.
If money's not involved,
I'm putting,
well,
I mean,
there's a handful of guys,
but I mean,
if you're taking some of your truck series
at Zane Smith,
if not you're my guy,
if you're going to pull somebody off,
Brad Moffett.
Brett Moffett.
Oh.
What am I doing?
I put somebody in the nine.
Yes.
If you were Dale Jr.
If you were Dale Jr.
If you were Dale Jr.
Because the nine is now open.
Kyle Bush.
Because he doesn't have a job.
It's public knowledge.
And I think the Dell Jr.
can afford to pay him the $15 million that he wants.
Hold on.
It would up his net worth a little bit.
But he can afford it.
Can Dale Jr. afford to hire Kyle Bush?
That's the question, TJ.
Can he afford it?
I mean, yeah.
I mean, there's zero chance that he does.
Dale Jr.
A tight ass.
100 billion percent, yes.
Kyle, you're fired.
Yeah.
T.J., who would you put in the nine car?
You know, they do a,
J.R.M's got some leaders over there already.
Some, you know, some veterans with all guy.
I'd pull from the truck series probably.
I maybe give.
If you say Haley, I'm going to punch you with a B.
Oh, my God.
I'm going to knock you all this to what you say daily.
I think.
Hostavar is, you know, looking...
How many races is Hosovar won?
Ever.
Yeah.
Let me help you with that.
None.
None.
Yeah.
But I mean, he's got speed.
He's riding the wave right now.
He came to Cam Newton where to say that's.
He can't bring the hats.
I won't say which reporter I talked to yesterday, but I had a conversation with one of the garage
and somebody had text them and said, what's this?
Because Hosevar was supposed to have an announcement.
There's rumors about him doing something with track house.
And there was rumors obviously about him getting into the night car last week.
And so somebody texts this reporter and they were like, what's the deal with Hosevar?
And the reporter said, I'm sorry, between the Kyle Bush news, the Cubschedule news, all this other news, I don't really care about the guys and never want a truck race.
I bet I wouldn't know that reporter because he's done that to me before.
Who?
He has, it looks like his glasses have been slapped with baloney.
Is that who it was?
Maybe.
Yep.
I got it right.
Slap with below.
So they're very, um, who has a dirtiest?
glasses in a garage.
Like when you talk to him,
you literally want to just take his glasses off
and clean him and put him back on his face.
I don't want to answer that.
And I love the guy.
I just want to clean his glasses.
Have you heard who's going in the line car next year?
Do we know somebody is?
Like, why?
This is the first year.
They've run a full full tariff.
I'll tell you everybody's big on
in the truck series is Zane Smith.
Like everybody loves Zane Smith.
And I don't know Zane Smith.
I've never met him.
But everybody loves...
Have I met him?
Oh, I did in Nashville.
We were both.
face. He was drunker than I was.
I have met Zane Smith in Nashville.
That does not count. Okay.
I cannot speak to his character because
I was under the influence.
As was he, he was actually more under the influence.
He was staying a day late.
But in the garage
right now, nobody speaks
higher of an up and coming driver
than they do of Zane Smith. Personality,
work ethic, talent.
He checks every box if you talk to owners right now.
The other guy that you hear
a lot about is Ben Rhodes.
He gets a lot of credit when you talk to
owners about up-and-coming guys.
So, look, it comes down to dollars and cents.
And they're already biting the ticket on Josh Barry,
which fans don't appreciate that enough.
Fans should appreciate the fact that Dell Jr.
and Kelly Earnhardt and Mr. Hendrick are funding
Josh Barry's career.
A guy who made it up through the grassroots.
I mean, it's been a hot minute.
Kyle Arson funded.
Casey Kane funded.
These guys didn't come from super rich families, right?
So I think fans need to appreciate
because all the fans do is about,
oh, Ty Gibbs, grandson, Ty Dillon, grandson,
appreciate the fact that Dale Jr.'s funding guys like that.
But Casey, I don't know the right answer,
but those are the two guys in the truck series
that I hear the most positive things about.
I think those are all solid choices.
Do you think that the Noah's crew chief goes with him?
Luke Lambert.
To GMS.
I know Luke Lambert.
I work with Luke Lambert.
I honestly,
I can say this, honestly,
when I work with Luke Lambert
at the 31 cup car with Jeff Burton,
if you had said,
hey, Brett, he's going to be your crew chief
the rest of your spotting career.
I'd have signed up.
I enjoy working with him that much.
There's no doubt that night.
Look, JRM as a whole right now
is the best team in the Xfinity series,
I think.
Center out, who's making more grip than those guys.
Now, Ty Gibbs has got, he's a talent.
He's also getting a ton of resources.
But as a whole, the organization, I think J.R.M. is the best.
I thought they would go to, to be honest with you when Dave Ellen's left.
Because I appreciate and respect Dave Ellens.
And they did not.
They got better.
So I think whoever decided Pemberton or...
Pemberton, Dale Jr., whoever decided LW, like whoever checked the box of,
we're going to hire Luke Lambert.
Obviously it worked.
But Jason Burdett and that seven car, flying every week.
At the same token, like at the same time, if you're J.R.M., can you
you let Luke Lambert leave?
Yeah.
Yeah, because you can't afford.
Can't afford him.
Yeah, I mean, GMS is a cup team.
He said he could afford Kyle Busch.
Well, Dale could afford a lot of people.
He'd afford him, but you said he wouldn't spend the money on him.
Two different things there.
So, man, do I think Luke Lambert goes with him?
I think that's a solid possibility.
But I also think that Luke Lambert was on the table for GMS last year to hire as a
cup crew chief, and they did not.
And given the fact that the 42 cars had one good run in 25 weeks or whatever we've run,
I think you definitely got to
if you're a GMS you've got to upgrade everything
because if you keep everything the same
and put a new driver in
what is your expectation? Your expectation
would be that your driver is so much better
that he's going to take that car and make it go
from 28th to 15th? I don't think that's realistic.
What happened to the 43? If I was Stuart Haas's
president and I don't know who the president over there is
I know Brett Freude left, I would replace
Col Custer's crew chief tomorrow. And I like Mike Shipplet.
I'm not saying I would get rid of him
and get him out of my organization,
but I would replace him tomorrow
because that 41 car can't still
on a lead lap to save his life.
He was three laps down yesterday.
Didn't they do that?
They did have power steering issue,
but nonetheless.
I thought they did,
didn't, didn't Booger go over there
for a couple of a race?
It was in the middle of the setups,
but that's not the answer.
Like, I would full-blown,
you got 12 weeks left,
give this kid an opportunity to not suck
because he's bad right now.
And Cole Custer is not that bad of a race car driver.
All right, let's move on to the next one.
from at Biddy 9595.
Fox didn't show the running order below P20
during the truck race at all during the first two stages.
What does that do to sponsorship?
Or does it affect it at all?
Brett, I'll ask you first.
It sucks.
You know what I mean?
Like if you're the driver that's not in the top 20,
if you're the sponsor of that truck,
it's not top 20.
It sucks.
What does it do to sponsorship?
It can affect it.
You know,
it 100% can affect it
because you're not getting
that brand on television.
And there's a lot of things
that I used to appreciate
about the 80s when I'd watch races and 90s.
And they would do the full field rundown.
And they would literally go through
and talk about each driver
or where they're running,
what they're dealing with.
And that put a little bit of pressure
on the PR people because the PR people
had to tell the pit reporter
what was going on.
Pitt reporter had to tell the booth.
And there was a lot of communication.
But if Fox truly only showed
the top 20 shame on them,
because that sucks.
because there's a solid chance your favorite driver and our sponsor was outside of the top 20
because I'm going to tell you something that was a competitive truck field at Richmond the truck field
is deep now like it's it's pretty deep right now it was as solid as I've seen it like you look at
the names I'm like damn there's a lot of really good truck drivers out here is there but my question
to you is from your side of things there's no sponsor value to seeing
your driver's name on a pylon, is it?
No.
Like there's no value in the sponsor for that.
So they do, when you do a report, right, there's multiple companies in a sport to give you
analytics on the broadcast.
And no matter if it's Joyce Julius, if it's repucom, I can't, Nilsson ratings, they're
amazing, right?
They give you this breakdown.
When you have a Kyle Busch or a Ross Chastain or a Justin Haley, your name is now worth
something.
brand equity in that name.
So when they say driver mentioned at that level,
they value it.
At the truck series level,
I don't know a lot of those guys.
I mean,
like they announced that Chris Wright
is coming to drive for TJ.
No.
At TJ Motorsports.
Yeah.
I signed them up.
I don't know who Chris Wright is.
If he walked in the door right now,
I wouldn't know who he is.
So when they put,
say,
they say his name during a race,
there's not a lot of value behind that in truck series.
I was very confused about something this week.
And maybe you could touch on it.
You're probably not allowed to talk about it.
But, next subject.
Like Brandon Brown put out a tweet that said, I don't own this car.
I don't own Brandon built motorsports.
That puzzled me too.
Well, who the hell owns Brandon built motorsports if it's not Brandon?
I don't know.
What an idiot.
Why don't he own his own name?
I think his dad owns it.
But they just decided to name of that.
That'd be my guess.
I don't know the answer to that.
It's just like, change the name.
It's your race team.
Yeah.
I mean, it was built.
He's like, I don't hold it.
I'm just a driver.
It's like, uh, well, he is a contracted driver.
Oh, I get it.
But I mean, you're, it's your team.
Like, it's your race team.
Who wins this week's offer back personal of the week?
Decoq.
I mean,
that guy sends in a question every week to go in.
All right.
Be the cock.
Be de cock 48.
Where do you think 48 comes in?
I'm not making fun of your name.
It was the conference.
conversation Freddie and I had right before this. I swear. I promise. I'm so sorry.
Great. HR is here. Here comes HR. We said to talk too many times on the podcast today.
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AskDBC when submitting a question. It is time for us to get to our favorite X-Fi more than
fast moments from this week. Whether you're behind the wheel or online, speak,
isn't the only thing you need.
So tell us what were your more than fast moments this week.
Right.
Christopher Bell at the end of the race for me.
I mean, you talk about fast.
Literally, if the race was one more set of corners, he would have won.
He was hauling ass at the end of that race.
And I don't even know what was it, maybe a 8 to 10 lap difference in tires,
but he was on a mission at the end of that race.
Right.
I got to give it to Christopher Bisher.
He's not a guy.
Christopher Buster.
I was going to say, too.
That's what Del June, listen, NASCAR Jesus calls him Christopher Buescher, so that's his name.
Not debatable.
So I took a picture of him last night at a plane and I texted the LJN.
Christopher?
I said, hey, Christopher says hey.
Oh, look at Christopher.
Oh, Christopher Bush.
I said Christopher, Christopher says hey.
Is Christopher used sun in on his hair?
He's got that orange hair color.
No, I don't think so.
Christopher Bisher for running P3, Christopher Bisher.
I think Chris Buster honestly had a chance to get the lead had Ricky Stenhouse not raced him as bad as he did.
I got to be honest.
I thought Ricky Stenhouse.
I thought it was bad.
Ricky Stenhouse held him up.
But I'm going to be 100% transparent and tell you that we raised him to.
And I seen people tweeted me about this.
They're like, well, well, you got in the 17th way.
And we didn't.
Like the four got around us, drove to us, got a bias, drove by us.
The 20, when he got to us, he drove by us.
The 17 got to us, and he stayed too back.
He couldn't really get there to go around us.
But you know what?
It's our job in that situation to make his life a little bit difficult.
Do you know why?
Because he doesn't have a win.
And if we're trying to make the playoffs,
you don't know who's going to win wildcard at Watkins Glen next week.
You don't know who's going to win Daytona two weeks from now.
You don't want new winners.
If you're out of the playoffs right now, you don't have a win.
You don't want to see new winners.
Christopher Busher needs to race.
the dog food out of you from that one.
So you don't get it.
If I was him, I would.
Like we,
but you were on the lead lap, weren't you?
We were,
we had,
we were,
we were,
we just got passed by Harvard.
No,
but we were on Lee lap to that point.
The 47 was already a lap now.
Oh, he was more.
Yeah, he was down.
So there's a big difference right there in my opinion.
And the 99 did the same thing.
99 was on the same lap as the 47 and he was in the way.
I agree that you're racing.
If the caution comes out,
it saves your race.
And we were like,
it was,
listen,
we were racing.
our race. The five was right behind the 17. That's who we're racing for the lucky dog after
Harvard got us. But in the back of our minds, you're thinking that you can't, you can't have the 17
win a race. Like the 17 wins a race only hurts your season. So unfortunately, like, if he would
have, if he would have got to us and got underneath us or outside of us, we would let him go.
But like, he couldn't get there. Like the Ford got there past us, the 20 got there past us. And
people are like, oh, I don't think you can. And I was like, wow, we didn't. I don't. I don't.
don't think you let him go like that point because if the caution comes out the front row some of them
guys might chance to stay out those are easy spots you're pitting no matter what like if you get if the caution
comes out and he's right behind you're the last card and lead lap what are you running like 14th yeah to 13th
okay you're 13th you're pitting from 13th get a couple spots on pit road you're choosing 11th few
three four stay out yeah dude you get you got you got a solid chance it around a top five finish because
you raced right there but in as far as the 47 it
doesn't change much in his position there at all. There was really no point in him.
He was just being that in the way. Who's Ricky Stenhouse's manager?
Who's his management company? Kevin R. Rick.
I think who's his realtor? He's selling a house for like 14 million. 15, I think.
Damn. She's looked into it. He can afford to hire Kyle Bus. He can sell his house and hire
Kyle Busch. Honestly, my argument to Chad was it's right now, it's right by Milbridge. So you already live there as
is.
There's enough land out of time.
That's a $15 million house in the middle of nowhere.
That makes it even less attractive.
Anyway, look, Chris Busher, I know T.J.
sitting here.
I don't want to talk about him with him sitting as close to me.
He might swing at me.
But Chris Busher is faster than Brad Keslowski every week.
I think he deserves the X-Finity X-5 more than Fast Smallwood.
He was going to be my pick.
So you stole my.
He's also in a contract year next year, as are a lot of guys.
Tyler Wreck was one of them.
Obviously, he's not.
next year is going to be free agency.
You're talking about gold.
Silly season of heaven.
Yes.
2023, he's locked up.
After that, he's under contract.
But he is a, look, if you're a race fan, you don't know Chris Buster.
He's a blue collar, hardworking guy.
Like, he's one of the guys.
He's probably one of very few guys that can tear his race car up on Sunday and go in
there Monday morning and actually fix it.
Yeah.
Yeah, he's a hard work.
And I've gotten to know him a lot.
And I got a lot of respect for him.
And he's done a really good job.
I mean, since Brett took Christopher Buescher.
Sorry.
I don't know if I liked this, you know,
Ty Majesky's Jackman getting run over,
but still finishing the stop.
He just got a...
I mean, that's dedication.
How about Daniel Suarez running over his guy?
I didn't see that.
Was it big?
Punted him.
Hmm.
You know, as much as he drives like a weapon,
I gotta get with Ty Dillon for, you know,
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What an idiot.
Time for What an Idiot.
Brett, who you got?
I had such a pleasant week.
I don't even know if I have a word of an idiot this week.
do I? Are there any good nominees, Freddie?
I think you should go because surely in your notes, you've got some good ones.
I've got a really good story from last week.
And our friend Russell Long will appreciate this one.
We go to dinner.
Russell was in townies from Myrtle Beach, one of Brett's good friends.
And we go to Epic Shop House, wherever we was.
To Myrtle Beach, Epic's high dollar to him.
Gold Corral, Epic Steakhouse.
So the waiter, they're asking the waiter, what they're asking the waiter,
again. He said, I'm telling you right now,
the bone in ribby is the best steak
I've ever had in my life or something like that.
Best steak ever. And I was like, well, that's good.
So then he leaves and Brett
looks to menu and says,
oh, I mean, that bone and ribby
sounds good, but damn, it's 22 ounces.
It's a lot. He said, it's a lot.
He's like, I don't think I need a 22-ounce steak.
And is a lot. Right next
to the 22-ounce
ribai is a 48-ounce
Tomahawk. Yeah. And Brett goes, you know,
we need to do and him and Russell are having this conversation.
I know what Brett meant, but he looks at Russell and goes, we need to just split that
tomahawk.
And I'm going, well, 22 was too much.
But if you split the tomahawk, that's 24.
What's the difference?
I don't think this is making any sense to anybody.
Talk myself right into it.
So it doesn't make any sense.
Just get your own steak.
Brett, man, Brett wanted to share it like 17 ways.
My one an idiot this week.
Did you get the time of hawk?
No, they got it.
I got lobster tail.
My what an idiot this week is Noah Gregson.
Gregson.
Gregson.
Oh gosh.
Gregson.
Gregson.
Bob Parker, I said Gregson.
I text this guy and I said, hey, come on a podcast.
You just announced your Big Cup news.
Come on a podcast.
Crickets.
I text him again.
Hey, if you don't reply to me, I'm going to tweet out the fact that you're not texting
me back.
So I finally saw him in yesterday in a cup garage.
And I'm like, hey, come on a podcast tomorrow.
He's like, I can't.
I'll get in trouble.
Well, I don't know if he knows.
knows this or not, but he stays in trouble.
Like, he doesn't, him coming on this podcast would have zero impacts of him actually
getting in trouble.
So if you're listening, tweet Noah Gregson, because he looks at Twitter religiously, like
he was showing me all these tweets on the airplane last night and tell him to come on a podcast
because he's my one-ed-a-diette just complete chicken shit and not even texting me back.
He was, he wrecked the field of road America.
You can come on a podcast.
How much worse can't be worse than that.
Yeah.
He was there for a little while last night.
He finally, we dragged his ass out.
for a little while.
Finally.
I've been telling him
to go to big house
for six months
and he came in there
for a drink.
He's hated a workout
at 7 o'clock this morning
so shout out.
Freddie, yeah,
Freddie,
that's why he's upset early.
That's what I happen.
I get up this really.
TJ.
Oh, man.
I don't know if I want to
get my one.
I mean,
let's go for it.
I mean, God.
Send it right here.
There's a lot of stuff
going on in the sprint car world.
Oh, God.
Let's not go there.
We're not going there.
Please go there.
Please go there.
What's going to go there?
please go
what's the Twitter account
that you need to follow
nobody
johnny
please go there
wait we
nope
just say it
I'm not saying
what is my friends
I don't know any of them
I don't care what you say right
man
I like
there's some
you know I'm just going to get to the 47
for holding Christopher Bisher up
in the end of the race being a lab down
and um
you just got to know
you know I know he doesn't give it
damn obviously, but like...
Clearly.
Yeah, I don't know.
There's just a right time for it.
You know, I wanted to stand a lead lap right there too.
I wanted to race the heck out of the four, but when the four got positioned on us,
we ran the second lane, made him earn it on the bottom.
When he got us, he got us.
That's all you do.
You know what I mean?
Like, and you let him race from there on.
Like, Freddie, you know, if he, if he would have got position on you, okay, go.
You know, but...
You're not going to stop and wait for the guy.
If I'm Brad Keslowski, and I'm T.J.
Majors, because T.
has a lot of say of what goes on it.
He's basically the general manager.
You have right.
Easily.
I heard Steve Newmark has to call you and ask for permission to make decisions.
It's basically you.
If I am.
You and Jeremy.
If I'm Steve Newmark, I listen to Herm.
I just take,
Herm's my boss.
Who runs the competition side over there now?
Is it Kevin Kidd or who is it?
No.
Stay out of that.
You don't.
You know who the competition guy is.
Just go to the next.
Is it Robbie Reiser?
Is he still there?
No, he's been out of there for years.
That's my point.
Who's running the competition side?
Robbie.
If I'm running the competition, who runs the competition side?
Do you know?
I would say Kevin Kidd.
Kevin Kidd.
Kevin Kidd ain't the guy anymore.
Is Kevin Kidd the guy or not?
Well, Jeremy's, what's Jeremy do?
Jeremy's like the charge of everything.
So is he the guy?
I think there's like two or three.
Okay.
Well, there's one problem.
You got too many chiefs and not enough Indians.
All right.
So I would say that if I'm Brad Kesslowski,
I would go hire Brian Patty tomorrow.
I bet he runs seven spots better right off the truck.
Who's your crew chief?
Oh, but call, right?
Jason, tell T.J.
He can talk.
He's scared to talk.
T.J., I'm not talking.
He's deleting messages.
I'm not talking.
Remind me to tell you a story about deleting messages.
That's always good.
Not on the podcast.
Who's your one an idiot?
He said Stenthouse.
Yeah.
I mean, that's hard not to go with that one.
Somebody's got to give it to him.
Yeah.
Let's move on to DBC picks
Well, Jason, you won with
Who was supposed to be my pick?
Cheater.
At Richmond with Kevin Harvick.
I don't cheat.
I just win.
You took a win away from Freddie.
So it's 766, man.
Brett and Jason are tied to leave the seven.
Freddie in second with five.
T.J. and third with four, and then I'm in lost with two.
I feel like Jason has like an algorithm or something.
He does.
Let's make picks for Walkins Glenn.
Brett, you are up first.
Do you and Ben sit around a night on side?
Sunday nights to figure out who you're going to pick.
No.
Are you lying?
He's already done it.
He's got a spreadsheet.
I am just good at this game.
Unlike.
I mean, I'm impressed by you.
Thank you.
Jesus.
I know what I'm doing.
I can't wait to win the NFL or a 30s NFL game this year.
You?
Damn.
Should I pick Keslowski or Michael McDowell, Jason?
It don't matter.
You're losing?
Keslowski.
You think so?
TJ, how are you going to run this weekend?
We got to go to Oak Course stuff.
Do you?
Where's the last?
road course. What did you finish?
You don't want to go by that one.
Okay.
What did you do for that one?
Well, that's comforting.
We had a lot of speed.
Oh, yeah?
Our cars are fast, yeah.
Okay.
Remember the road course before that one?
Road America, where do we run?
I think we were fairly competitive there.
And we were good at, um, uh, we've had speed at road course is probably our strength.
Okay.
Kiselowski.
It's actually Kislauski.
Yeah.
I said his name wrong.
Why don't some people say Kiselowski?
Why does some people say MacB?
Keselowski's my guy.
Right or die.
They say Keselowski because there's a E between the S and the L.
But it's not a Z either.
Kiz.
Kis.
Kisalowski.
We got a lot of differences in.
I can't even talk.
I can't speak English.
AJ's running?
No.
Nah, he don't run roadblocks.
Well, I got to check on that.
Take him first.
Daniel Hammer here.
Take a great.
Remember when Chris Rice came on and he was like, oh, yeah, Austin's running that.
No, no, he wasn't running that race.
Josh Balicki's in the 16 this week.
Oh, you can pick Kimmy Reicherman this weekend if you want.
Oh, you can.
And there's a solid chance that he won't finish the race.
That's very true.
Is that the other guy running this week?
Yeah, in the 77.
Rockefeller.
I will take, uh, I'll take, uh, I'll take AJ.
solid and if he don't run I'll take Todd
I
If Kislauski can't run
Todd Gillian
I might not ever make another pick
I don't have a lot left to pick
I can't
I mean Jason
Bubba's not going to get you the wrong course
You literally have one driver to pick from you do realize that
Well let's see how it goes
Hold out
If you f*** this up Casey you're fired
I could literally list all the times
I was screwed out of a win
So don't go
She's still got a heart rate
I will...
Was it six?
I'll go with Harvick.
Thank God.
That was your only pick.
That was the only chance you had.
My next.
Chase Elliott.
I thought you already picked him.
I told you last week I was picking him.
Oh, that's where I've heard that name before.
Tyler Reddick.
Good pick.
He's...
Horace Reddick.
You just made me mad right there.
You might actually win.
I know I'm going to win.
This week.
Who are going to pick for Daytona?
No, we're not doing that yet.
Stay tuned next week.
Oh, we got, yeah.
I mean, Daytona's going to be big.
Dayton's going to be best race a year.
It's going to be best race year.
But we're off to Watkins Glen first.
I got to hit myself in the face.
Hey, if you've never been to the Watkins Glen State Park,
I was telling people on my race team.
It's arguably one of the best kept secrets on the NASCAR tour.
Are your allergies act?
I don't know.
I'm dying.
You need some.
I mean, you'd better not be sick.
Have you ever been to State Park, TJ?
No, I haven't, but I've never been there.
You got to go.
It is awesome.
You can't do this much longer.
I almost died in Watkins Glen, but that state park is worth it.
It is a 10 out of 10 beautiful.
Content bearers.
Have you been? Yeah, I love that place.
Yeah.
Have you been to Freddie?
I'm jealous. I'm not going to go to.
So the two idiots from New York have never been to the New York Wachensland State Park.
That's not New York.
It is New York.
That's actually the real New York.
That's actually the real New York.
That's a different part of the world up there.
I mean,
it's the,
where the normal people
in the state of New York live.
They don't even,
they won't even put the football teams
in New Jersey,
you know,
because.
How do you have a football team
in New Jersey
and call them the New York something?
Because they want to be in New York.
You see New York for the stadium.
That's my one idiot.
Yeah.
People in New Jersey
naming their team in New York.
We've talked about this before.
They're in a wrong state,
you moron.
I forgot to give Doug what idiot.
Remember I was supposed to give Doug what idiot?
You wrote something
on the airport.
So Doug was,
Doug was, Doug has like a goal every week.
Doug Campbell spots for, who's he spot?
Cendrick. Daytona 500 winner.
And he has a goal every week.
How many miles he has to run?
And he was one mile short yesterday.
So when they got to the airport after the race,
he made him and Tyler Green ran a mile around the airport.
And that means an idiot.
Did you join him?
No.
I listen, I'll bull-s-aside.
If you're going to Watkins Glen, go to State Park.
Yeah, it's amazing.
And send pictures.
And before we got to the Indianapolis Road course,
I truly have always believed the hardest corner of NASCAR was turn 1 at Watkins Glen downhill braking.
A lot of wheel hop.
We see a lot of wrecks there.
Like it's truly hard to do.
And restarts are nuts.
Now they've such since then invented turn one at road horse at Indianapolis, which is idiotic.
But like Watkins Glen, it is not a technical road course.
It's fast.
Bubba put turn one.
Bubba put turn one in the middle of the front stretch the one year.
Do you remember that when he just turned?
Yeah.
Yeah.
He wrecked Kyle Busch.
Somebody tweeted me asking where they can meet you guys.
Where will you be spotting this weekend?
Front stretch,
but there's only one elevator.
I am going to go, I think Friday night,
I'm going to go watch the All-Star Circuit of Champion race at Outlaw Speedway,
which is right by the race track.
It's like 15 minutes away.
What's that?
Outlaw.
Is that new track?
I didn't know.
I think it's the place they used to go to run them like,
I remember they used to.
They had like the celebrity races, like McDowell used to go all that time.
Yeah, that was an asphalt track, though.
No, it was dirt.
Yeah, they read dirt cars.
Trust me.
But yeah, I'm going to go there probably Friday night.
Wyndham and Tyler are racing.
Who's Tyler?
Courtney.
Oh.
Seems like I heard his name recently.
What was that about?
He was running good at Knoxville Nation.
Knoxville Nationals.
I heard he had a hell of a finish.
He was running really good.
I would like to give a shout out to the winningest.
team owner this weekend, Tony Stewart winning Knoxville Nationals and the Cup race.
Wow.
That was pretty impressive.
Donnie Shots has won 11.
That's ridiculous, man.
11.
I feel like he's been racing my whole life.
How old is this guy?
He was in the damn game.
The World of Outlaws video game on like PlayStation 1 or 2, he's in there.
He was on Atari.
Yeah.
Pretty impressive, pretty solid.
weekend for Tony, I would say. He's been the man in World Outlaws for a long time.
Really long time. I love World Outlaws. One of my favorite series to watch.
Me too. All right. Well, we appreciate you guys. Listen.
Walkins Glenn's going to be nuts, man. A lot on line for a lot of people. Yeah. It's going to be
good. I'm excited about it. I mean, Truex is getting in to put up a shut up stage of the
playoff conversation. It kind of let us down yesterday.
Big time. I didn't really. Never saw them up there.
Never saw them. Contending. It's Dundee Speedway.
Dundee.
Yeah, pretty sure that's what it used to be.
Okay.
It's called Outlaw now.
Like,
all right.
I'm going to go with you to Dundee.
I might for real.
Okay.
Okay.
I mean,
if it's 15 minutes from the track,
I might go.
It's close to the race.
I mean,
I may be staying in Pennsylvania.
But I might go with you to the race.
I might need a room with you.
Okay.
Just like I'll see you at Millbridge this week.
I go to Millbridge.
He's been to Millbridge.
What?
Sheila really loves Billbridge.
Big fan.
So my sister is the biggest clean freak in America.
And she goes out there and she's like, do you think I should take my wheelchair or my scooter?
And I'm like, hell, I don't know.
Take whatever you want to take.
Well, I don't want to take my wheelchair.
I'll get it dirty.
She takes her scooter.
This damn thing, Jason, is covered in mud.
The whole day.
I'm talking about covered.
The whole night we're there.
She's like, look at all she.
She did not see one race because she was looking at the wheels of her scooter going,
look at all the dirt on my scooter.
Dude, she gets that air compressor out.
Allison McKinney took her over.
with somebody's truck and we were
sprained. Dude, she's cleaned her scooter for a week.
She'll never go back to Millbridge.
Not a chance.
No chance.
Oh, well.
All right.
Well, thank you all for listening.
I'm really sorry about this show.
I have no words.
Have a great week.
See ya soon.
We out.
Can I say goodbye, Jason?
All right.
Bye.
Word.
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