Door Bumper Clear - 265 - Watkins Glen: What It Takes to Win

Episode Date: August 22, 2022

The Door Bumper Clear crew returns from a rainy weekend at Watkins Glen International. Brett Griffin, T.J. Majors and Freddie Kraft begin the show by discussing the teams’ variety of tire strategies with the track transitioning from wet to dry conditions, Brett pronouncing the foreign drivers’ names and which international drivers they would like to see drive the No. 91 car.To start Spot On, Spot Off, the spotters break down Kyle Larson’s winning move on Chase Elliott into Turn 1 on the final restart. They debate the decisions made on the final restart, what Elliott did wrong, and how Larson should feel about winning in that manner.Next, the guys talk about NASCAR’s decision to not start the race in the rain because of puddling track conditions. Brett explains why the cars should not have started pace laps during the rain and why NASCAR needed to more clearly communicate their plan for dealing with the track conditions. Plus, the guys answer whether NASCAR should even race in the rain. Learn why more rain racing could be ahead with an upcoming short track test.Ross Chastain triggered a wreck with Austin Dillon in the bus stop that sent his teammate Kimi Raikkonen into the wall, ending his day. The gang praises the F1 champion for how well he was running at the time and once again question how Chastain will advance past the first round of the playoffs if his aggressive driving continues. A battle for the win on a late restart in Saturday’s Xfinity Series race at Watkins Glen led to both leaders Ty Gibbs and William Byron spinning in the bus stop. Hear who the guys say was at fault, the mistakes made, and which driver wasn’t willing to accept defeat.The final spot in the NASCAR playoffs comes down to this Saturday night at Daytona. With all three spotters needing a win to earn a post-season berth, hear what their strategies are to have a shot at the victory. They discuss what kind of racing they expect, who needs to perform well and what’s at stake for the entire field.Then, they discuss whether or not they expect the injured Kurt Busch to compete in the playoffs. Hear the situation if he were to not take a playoff waiver, how that changes the playoff field and who would benefit. Learn why the situation may be dependent on the outcome of the regular season finale.In Reaction Theatre, find out what really happened to Ty Gibbs on Saturday, why Ross Chastain isn’t allowed to visit Finland, and what fans thought of Kyle Larson’s winning move.The Offerpad Question of the Week makes the guys ponder Kyle Busch’s future, predict which rides he will not be in and what his current options are.Thank you to our presenting sponsor Offerpad and partners Xfinity and RacingUSA.com for making this show possible. Want more DBC? Check out and subscribe to the new DBC YouTube channel! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

It's showtime, it's yo time. It's game time. You got one shot at a gold mine. It's yo time. It's game time. You got one shot at a gold mine. Hey, what's up? This is Door Bumper Clear, presented by Offutt, and I'm Brett Griffin.

We survived the rain at Watkins Glen, and they're back to break it all down. We'll cover Kyle Larson's move on Chase Elliott, Kimmy Rackin's Day, Ty Gibbs, and William Byron's Xfinity Battle. Daytona expectations of the hell even a lot more. Let's roll. Nobody's listening, but I don't care. I'm on an episode of Door Bumper Clear. Hey, everybody. I'm T.J. Major, spotter of the six-cup car and the 68

Xfinity carless weekend. And I even had the 73-Arker car, and that's not on there. Oh, God. I am Brett Griffin. Spotter for Colleg Racing. Does he have a different script than this? It's a podcast. You can read while you, you know, or pretend you're reading.

Had Daniel Hemrick on Saturday. Thank God he's okay. Oh, yeah. Justin Haley on Sunday. Winning that fell down. Thank God he's okay. Lock his Glenn was not kind to me, but it was kind of colleague racing

two runner-up finishes on Saturday Sunday. Yeah, what's up? Freddy Craftspotta, Bubba Wallace and Landon Castle this weekend. Not a great weekend for me either at Road America. Where were you? I'm not even drunk this weekend. I can't hear.

I should have read it off the paper. Yeah, but about, I don't even know it was. About lap three or four, me and goes, my, my window net just fell down. Did you put it up yourself? So what'd you do? We had to pit. No, you don't have to do that.

It's been proven that you can do it without pitting. Well, that's true. We needed Ryan Blaney in our car. He could have put it right back up. Apparently, he had longer arms? Justin's arms not long? Yeah. No, we pitted and we were running seventh or eighth at the time and honestly had a lot of

speed qualified 13th. Like it was going to be one of our better weekends. it appeared and it went to and once it went to we could just never get everything to go our way and that those road courses track position matters

believe it or not really hard to pass the arrow tight was real up through the S's down that back stretch the further back you were the harder it was so but all in all

I think that's a great race track of all the road courses we go to it honestly may be my favorite it's definitely awesome I'm biased it's shorter so you doesn't take four minutes to go around there like a road America.

Even when it was longer and they had turns 10 and 11, it really wasn't that many corners because they counted the boot. Yeah, they were doing pretty dang good lap times on a wet racetrack. They were getting around there a lot faster than I thought they were going to. Oh, yeah. They were flying. Flying. Yeah.

Yeah. I mean, the first part of the race I thought was great just for the differing strategies. You've seen guys come in and put dry tires on immediately. Oh, yeah, that was awesome. Busher was the first one. He was like three or four lap. I had just said to Bubba like, what do you think? And I don't know what he said, but I thought he said wet.

you know, I said, has a track, and I thought he said, wet. And then the next lap, you know, Busher came in. And I was like, well, 17's on slicks. What do you think? He's like, I'm ready if you are. And then they waited a lap to see what the 17 lap time was. And he was obviously much faster. Yeah.

Him and the, I think the 14 was the other one that I noticed came in. He matched at the first lap. Then the next lap's like five seconds. It's like, oh, we're late to this party. So, yeah, so I thought that was interesting. He made for some comers and goers in the beginning there. Kind of shook the strategy up a little bit. That was the only time then.

Yeah. And then, like Brett said, it was just really, it was kind of, after it dried out and we all had the same tires on, it was just tough to pass. There was no tireware. Yeah, there was no, there was no falloff whatsoever. Yeah. I mean, if there was fall off, it was so we didn't, we didn't run long enough to make it. Yeah. On a factor.

I literally said over the radio, this tire sucks. It was awful. That was the only thing wrong with that race. No, no driver managing anything. It was go as hard as you can like a go-cart race the entire time. Yeah. I did not enjoy that part of it. No, me either, man.

I do like the starting when they did. I thought that was pretty cool. You can't, we can't start when there's rivers running down the track. I'm sure we'll. Are we talking about it now, Jason? We can talk about it right now. Don't talk about spot-on, spot-off topics before spot-on. It's not a spot-on.

Yes, it is. Oh, shoot. I thought you're going to talk about something else. Yeah, no, it is. Just kidding. It's a second bullet. Just kidding. Yeah, I'll wait then.

It's his first podcast. Shout out to all the foreigners in the race. Like, that was a lot of different people that weren't from America. They did okay. You had that guy named Helmonds. You had that rocking the fella. You Kavat, Rackanan, and Amarola. You are doing, are, are you, are you, are you, are you,

it's unbelievable how many people we have from all different countries. What is unbelievable is how bad you breached all those names. He's from South Carolina. Kimey Rackan did a hell of a job yesterday. Every single one of those, but, um, but then you, but the highest finishing foreigner was Daniel Souris. Who would have thought with all those foreigners that he, was going to be the highest finish he won.

He'd say foreigner. Can we call him international drivers? International foreigners. Well, that international driver has been in the Cups series. They're not from America. They're not from America. He's been in the Cups series for many years. They're not from American.

It was like watching F1 race. But I'm telling you right now, who if you thought before the season started, would you have picked Daniel Suarez to beat all them guys? Obviously, I'm kidding about how to pronounce her name. I know how to pronounce her name. I mean, would you not have picked Daniel Suarez to beat all them? He's been in a stock car for years. People were singing these guys' praises on Twitter this week

about how great they are and how great they're going to do. And then I'm did great. Well, I will say, I thought Kimmy could. Kimmy did pretty good. He got chastained. Yeah, because he got part of the chastain train or whatever you were calling it last week.

Chastain. I don't know what you were calling it. Whatever you said, I think he had a shot. He was top ten for a bit. He qualified 27. But are you kidding me? I'm not kidding you. I'm telling you a fact.

How many NASCAR races has Kimmy run before? Two. Kimmy didn't qualify 27th, I don't think. Did he? She didn't even know he's run two races. He was 20th in practice. But what do you run a truck race at? Compared to how many.

Don't ask me, you don't know the answer to. Compared to how many people. Be like my kids. If you don't know to answer, don't ask me. Shut up. Compared to how many people run full time every race. F1 champion. He did pretty well.

I hate you. Ragged Ann. I thought. Kimmy did a great job. I thought he did a great job. Me and Fredi talked about Kimmy during the race. And it was like, how much fun do you think this guy's having right now? He's running around a bunch of cars, which isn't typical, obviously, in F1.

Their door to door, their restarts are crazy. And he's up in the middle of it. He's freaking rubbing elbows with the big dogs. And I think, I think two things are going through his brain right there. Holy shit, I'm having fun. And you know what? These guys are really good. Yeah.

I didn't expect to get my butt kicked by all these other guys. Yeah. I mean, I think that if you took him and put him in a. an NASCAR race like he did yesterday. He outperformed anything that any of, Kyle Larson, pick a guy, Kyle Busch, whoever you want to stick in a Formula One car, would not be anywhere near as competitive, I don't think, as he was yesterday in our races.

No way. He made Jacques Villeneuve look like Timmy Hill. I'm not lying to you. Jacques Villeneuve is a, I don't know how you'd say his name wrong. That's right. But Jacques Villanoo is a hell of a road racer. How do you say that? Timmy Racking and made him look like his.

Can you please stop saying it? It's right, but if I say it's wrong? What? I don't think you said that. She don't know what she said. I'm even starting to get confused. Look, I'll let aside.

Daniel Suarez, at the beginning of the year, if you had told me he was going to be this good at roadcourses, I would have told you you're crazy. If I were Justin Marks in January and I had the opportunity to hire Kyle Busch for 2023 or Daniel Suarez, who would you have picked? Right. Kyle Bush. I mean, Kyle Bush. I mean, Kyle, duh. Now, honestly, for what you're paying Daniel Sores and for his international appeal, the fact that Carlos Slim is on his frequent caller list, there's a lot of reasons why Daniel Sores makes a lot of sense. There's a lot of reasons why Track House is doing good things. I mean, you did bring Kimmy Racketing in and look, he practiced well. He didn't qualify well, but he practiced well, practiced well, practiced top 20. That's freaking impressive. He was running really well. In a part-time call.

with a part-time pit crew or definitely a makeshift pit crew definitely guys that don't aren't together every single week right so super impressive man of all the guys that came in this week to be a part of the cup series from all over the world which is awesome to have seven different countries represented as killer but to see what he did man please come back yeah I mean and you talk about Daniel being obviously as good as he has been this year it's it's equipment based You know what I mean? Like we talked about this last year. Did Chase Elliott all of a sudden become the best road racer in the world?

No, it's because he's in the best cars in the world. And Daniel's a product of that also. Kimmy was a product of that yesterday. I mean, he's in a really good race car. It's a makeshift team, but it's a really good race car. You know, some of them other guys were in, you know, the 26 car or the 77. You know, they're not top echelon teams every week where, you know, you're not really expecting. But I thought Kimmy outperformed any of my expectations.

I kind of thought he was going to be a 25th to 30th to 30th. guy kind of all day just kind of out there kind of making a little bit of a show of it and be done but now he was up there in the I mean I he was in the top 15 when he wrecked right I mean he yeah I know I looked up one time he was just outside the top 10 or got wrecked yeah yeah if Ross doesn't hit austin dillon right there he probably doesn't wreck and I think he was going to have a damn good day but I just hope he comes back I mean I hope jocque villanoo never comes back I saw a lot of guys I hope Kimmy comes back I saw a lot of guys also I forget where I saw us on Twitter somewhere maybe gluck or somebody but like guys were, it was drawing interest to other names guys.

Jensen Button, I think brought up the fact he wanted to come drive the 91. The Bhutan? Yeah, the Bhutan. Marcus Erickson, the Indy 500 winner. You know, I think he was another one that was interested in doing it. So now this is going to just, as well as Kimmy, like, nobody really wants to be the first guy. You know, like, well, what the hell is this deal going to look like?

Well, Kimmy goes out there and performs as well as he did. Now you're going to draw interest of other guys that want to do this. Well, when I saw Montoya come, you know, go from Indy car to F1. he had, I believe, 8 F1 wins. When he came to NASCAR, I was like, man, we only run two road courses a year, but he's going to be a stud at these two road courses. I truly believe right now in all of NASCAR, A.J. Amandinger is hands down the best road racer that we have in our sport today.

He takes cars that I think are fast, but he runs better than they're supposed to run. He finishes better than they're supposed to finish. Back-to-back runner-up finishes this weekend at Watkins Glen. Obviously, three Xfinity series wins this year alone in road courses. It's like, I don't know that there's a better road racer in NASCAR right now. I mean, the three guys that come to mind from me that are just pure road racers that kind of outperform their equipment are AJ, obviously, Michael McDowell and Chris Busher. 100%. All three.

You know, Chris Busher and Michael McDowell always find themselves in the top 10 of a road race. AJ's always up there. Seemingly, you don't really hear from AJ all day and all of a sudden you're like, holy shit, you might win this race. He got Rick on lap two by Austin Cendrick. Yeah. And he's still right back in the top 10 to finish the stage and there all day. Like he's a special road course guy. He gets all of his equipment.

Same for McDowell. I mean, I saw McDowell leading the race yesterday and Chase Selly is running him down. I'm like, this is driver. This is not equipment. If that race would have stayed wet, you know, it would have just been like a light rain all day

and the track stayed wet, Michael would have been hard to beat. Those three guys that you just mentioned would have been hard to beat. I'm not, one thing I think that you're not, I think that track played in a guy like Kimmy's hands

that wet, to dry. He has obviously a very good feel for that. Yep. Um, but the high grip. He's used to high grip. That was a high grip low fall off track. I'm not so sure he goes to Sonoma and is able to perform the same with with a tire where you have to be finesse. I don't think he's, I'm not, maybe he has, but I'm not sure he's ever had to take care of the rear tires. Yeah. Well, and it's almost way more technical, way slower. Major elevation changes. We only really have one elevation. Low grip. Yeah. Yeah. And the challenge of a cup car is different getting into turn one of what it used to be.

How many guys would we see Will Hop on a weekend going into turn one at Watkins Glen? Dude. 20? I always remember just watching a different part of the race track and just hearing. And you look down there. Somebody's spinning down a turn one. Where did you notice car that the cup car is breaking for turn one? I thought they were like right at the like 400.

Okay. So Kimmy goes by and practice like third lap and I'm like, oh, 200. I'm like, he didn't make the corner. But like, he was really good at going almost to the three and getting it slowed down and making the bottom of the corner. Like you could tell he was very good at knowing what, knowing how to do it. If they did, they got. Maybe one guy. I mean, I think the 21 wheel hopped like the first three laps of the race into one.

But he had a hard time in the beginning. Yeah. But there wasn't much, there wasn't. It was wet. There wasn't the traditional. There wasn't the traditional wheel hop. where you could, you know, really see it costs people. Yeah.

All right. Well, since I'm not allowed to talk, let's head into. You can't ask me done. Let me literally let me explain anything. How about Ryan Blaney? He signed back up. Hold on a minute. We didn't talk about Ryan Blaney.

He signed back up. Long term, I hear. A lot of guys that people were excited about coming up at the end of this coming year, the 2023 season, they're not available anymore. But did you really think Ryan, was going to leave. Still, I mean, he never even talked to anybody. Tyler Reddick's already signed up.

Ryan Blaney's already signed up. Christopher Bell, what's he going to do? Harvick, what's he going to do? Like, there's not many guys, big-name guys left that some of these sponsors and teams were really excited about coming up. I think Christopher picked up his option, I think. For 23. For an article, in an article, yeah.

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When asked what you heard about Offerpad, select the NASCAR option so they know we sent you. Spot on, spot off. It goes like this. Spot on means you agree. I'm spot on. Are you joking me? He's lost his mind.

Oh, and by the way, no one ever seems to agree. And then spot off means you disagree. Spot off. Here we fucking go. This is the dumbest thing I've ever heard. But if you're T.J. Um, uh, uh, there's only one correct answer. I don't know.

It's time for spot on, spot off. First topic. Kyle Larson's winning move on teammate Chase Elliott into turn one on the final restart. Spot on, spot off, Freddie. Spot on. He won the race, right? I mean, the thing I thought about yesterday was, like, do you think the whole time that Chase is about Kyle to Mr. H and Jeff after the race is over

that video we saw, do you think they're just thinking, how are we going to get to Victory Lane from here? Like, you know, like, you know, I would segue this chat to actually good. Actually, we got to be somewhere. Listen, I think that for some reason, and I don't know what it is. I think, I mean, there's times where we kind of call them out, but people listen to this show think we hate Chase Elliott for some reason. And that's just not true.

That's not true at all. But I'm going to tell you right now, this wreck is Chase Elliott's fault. Yep. You chose the outside lane. You let that guy have control of your race car into turn one. It's as simple as that. We've seen three races this weekend, three late race restarts, and the leader that took the outside lane,

all three races, lost the race. And that's because you put yourself at the mercy of other people. And listen, I know it's the preferred lane. I know it gets a better run off of turn one. But when you got guys desperate on the bottom to win the race like Kyle Larson was yesterday, not only is Kyle Larson trying to beat Chase Elliott in a turn one, he's also defending against A.J. Amandinger behind him, who he knows can be super aggressive in the one.

So, I mean, you put yourself in a position where the guy on the bottom can dictate where your car goes, and that's what you get sometimes. Right. I tell you what, here was my dilemma when I got on the airplane last night. I was like, man, there's always one lead dog at every team. And regardless of what you people think, yeah, they get access to the same stuff. Yeah, they have access to a lot of the same people. But every race team in the garage has a guy.

That's the number one guy. And who's Penske's number one guy? Right now, Blaney. Plaining. Or look, I mean, you could go either way, but I think. I say Ligano, not Blaney. Who's Roush's number one guy? Keselowski.

Who's 2311's number one guy? Kurt. Kurt. Like, you look at these race teams and they all have number one guys. I mean, whether you like it or not, Denny listens to this show, we love Denny. Kyle Bush is your number one guy. You have Kevin Harvick as Stuart Haas. He was.

He's your number one guy. Everything that these race teams do, that number one guy is leading the conversation, and he is, believe it or not, he's in charge of a lot of things that happen. I don't know that Penske has that number one guy right now. It's obvious who the number four guy is. Hendrick has a number. That's what I mean, Hendrick.

I don't think Hendrick has, like, we know how talented Larson is, but I mean, when you look at their number one and two guys are starting on the front row, and Chase Elliott made a huge mistake, and he finished fifth because of his mistake. The mistake only cost him second. He still had a chance to come back and recover and win the race.

I'm spot off for the fact that after he got doored, he choked. because he screwed himself going up the hill in the S's. Then he got freight train and he went from first to second. Then he went from second to fifth and now you have no chance to win. So I am spot off for the fact that he, to your point, Freddie, he picked the wrong lane and then he scroily, he mentally screwed up after he got moved.

T.J. I'm spot on for the move. I think a guy's got to do what he's got to do to win the race. And it's not like he wrecked him. me just carried them off into the no man's land where I mean I'm doing the same exact thing I don't care if everybody you're a race car driver you're doing the same thing you brad I'm yeah we're crashing in here reckon but when you look back at that video tj even before they went to breaking Kyle Larson was already ahead of him by a little bit so you not only

gave him the preferred line into one he beat you to turn one and then he obviously obviously outbreak you and then he slid up a little bit after hitting the curb. But to your point, like Kyle Larson was going for it. The only way Larson beats him is by using him up a little bit there because it's not a true 90-degree corner there. And you can hold people off on the left. You just keep him pinned down in the middle a little bit. But, you know, two things.

If you're going to start out there, you have to have position on the guy. And even if you do have position on that guy, that guy is going to be in your door pushing you out. But he let Kyle get his nose and head. and Kyle, once Kyle saw that, Kyle was able to complete the, I'm just going to take what I need right here and clear you and go on and, you know,

if you get back to me in the asses or bus stop or whatever, then you do. But, yeah, I thought it was a great move. You know, you just, we just saw this restart. What was it? Two or three last before. You just gave, you basically gave Kyle a practice run at it. Okay, what I did this last time didn't work. I got to do something different now to beat him in there

and just get myself in position where I can be the one moving him up. You know, one, that one thing spot on 100% for Kyle getting out of the car and just basically owning it. He said, hey, I did what I had to do to win the race. You know, I'm sorry, but that's what I had to do to win the race. And whatever comes back at me from that is what it is. But I had to take the opportunity to win the race for my guys. And then 100% spot off for the reason why the caution came out.

The 27 car spins out running 63rd all by himself and ends up in the gravel trap. Like, how does that happen? Well, yeah, there's that. one thing, the only being devil's advocate here for Chase, the only thing you can hope for that is, there's two things. One, your teammate's just going to let you. My teammate, he's not going to do that to me.

The same F1. Two, if they do get three wide and that guy inside of you has to go down to protect, he's, if he moves far to the right to block, you've got to beat. You can't enter the corner that low and make the exit, you know, all the way against the inside. You can't enter the corner right there.

So, you know, that's, but me, I am, if I'm controlling the race, I'm rolling up to that restart line. I'm taking off when I get to it, getting down to turn one, and I'm opening a wheel up for exit, winning a race. There's 30 plus drivers in this race. How many guys got to pick where they started on that restart? One. Well, usually from like, one guy got to pick. 34th on back, he can kind of do what you want. One guy got to pick where he started.

Chase Elliott. One guy got to go first. Chase Elliott. He got beat. I mean, the proof is in the pudding. Three races this weekend. All three guys took the top. All three guys lost.

So Brett, back to your comment. So we're calling it pudding? Putting. Really not having that number one guy at Hendrick. If you were Mr. H. and Jeff right now, how would you handle the situation? Look, man, Jeff Gordon knows better than anybody what it's like to be the number one guy and then have somebody come in and take over. I mean, he helped hire his replacement.

Jimmy Johnson walked in. I'll never forget, man. you watch Jimmy Johnson in this number 92 Excedron car for Herzog Motorsports he wasn't worth the shit like this guy was not contending for wins he and Jeff get to be buddies they're going to New York all the time hanging out next thing you know

it's hey Hendricks forming a new team they're getting lows from RCR Jeff Gordon's going to be part owner it's going to be the number 48 we're getting Chad Canouse who had I think gone over to what was that team Colin Presley's dad drove for Jasper? Jasper

I think he was over there for a while anyway here he comes, you know, from that deal. Like, I mean, it was like, Jimmy Johnson is getting to go to Hendrick Motorsports? What's he really done to say, hey, I'm the guy. When he got there, it was like, holy cow. He's the guy, and he was the immediate number one. So when you sat down around the table, like we're sitting at, the first guy you look at when you ask the question is Jimmy Johnson.

No offense to William Byer, no offense to Alex Bowman. But when they sit down at team meetings and they're on competition calls, who do you think engineering is believing more? Kyle Larson or Alex Bowman right now? I mean, the proof is in the pudding. I think the thing is, Casey, like Mr. Hendrick is very fortunate to know he's got two. Look at Gibbs right, Joe Gibbs Racing. Kyle has two championships.

Denny has a championship. Martin obviously has a championship. Denny does not have a championship. Sorry, Denny doesn't have a championship. Pan, really. Come on. Come on. You just make your shit together, will you?

But when you sit around that table before Kyle Bush obviously was, was, was, was where he's at now. Like, you knew who your number one guy was at Joe Gibbs Racing. And it's just the way it is. I think Hendricks in a unique spot here where they've got two number ones and how they fight it out. I mean, look, Chase Elliott was so f***ed up in the head over what happened. He got out and he said he's going to the next race at Bristol.

So not only did he choose the wrong lane, screw up the restart, choke going from second to fifth. He got out of the car. Didn't even know where the race is next week. Well, I spot on to how he handled the interview because I think a lot of drivers would have just aired everything out. It was all lies. It was a fake PR play and it was all lies.

Yes, but coming from somebody who has PR experience, my driver. I don't have any. I know. You're, I would not want my driver to bash my teammate. All lies. He lied to everybody on TV. He handled it professionally. He lied.

I think we all know that. And he said we're going to Bristol another lie. I don't know if lying's professional. Moving on, spot on, spot off. NASCAR's decision to not start the race in the rain because of, of peddling track conditions. TJ. Oh boy.

I am. Easy. We were not ready to start that race. In my opinion, we shouldn't even have got in the cars at that point. Whoa. He just had an opinion that actually is fact. Well, I mean, it was raining. When I was putting my radios on, it was raining hard.

Yes, it was. And, you know, there's the river running. down the S's. The front stretch was a river. And, um, yeah. So I don't, look, I'm all for starting to race with the track being wet, but we can't, we can't race with, um, what do you think the visibility would have been had we gone green down that backstretch for the guy running fifth, not to mention the guy running 35th back there where the Tilly guy was, Killy or whatever. So it would have been very bad. And it's not, it's not, it's not, it's not, the track's very narrow. I mean, that truck's pretty narrow on that backstretch. I don't think it's very wide.

No. And you're going into the bus stop. It's not that fast. A lot of runoff room. I don't, I just, I just think when, you know, I'm all for racing in the rain. Either if you're, if we were already racing and that rain started and we were keeping the track somewhat blown off from the cars like we were at Coda that one time, we're already rolling. Everything's going. But if you stop the race at all and the water has a chance to sit, we can't race like that. What changed from the time?

we loaded the drivers in the cars to get ready to go to the green. Yep. And to the time that we decided we're not going green, come down pit road. What changed? The shirt under my rain jacket got moist. What changed? Nothing changed. Nothing changed.

Here's my problem. We are a national sport, international sport, especially this week. And so I go back to the dirt race. It's like we don't know at times, we look like at times we don't know what we're doing. at the dirt race was a prime example. We went out there and we were freaking clogging up the grills and we went to single file restarts because people couldn't see for the dust.

We don't know what we don't know. But there are people that do know. If you had hired Tony Stewart to be a consultant at the dirt track, Casey, do you think he would have helped us not make so many mistakes from an operations standpoint? Do you think if Ron Fellows or Boris said was in the Pace car yesterday with Kip or was in the booth yesterday with the NASCAR executives,

that he would have helped him realize, hey, this is a bad idea. Don't do this. Well, your guy's thumbs up or thumbs down. My guy said it ain't going to get any better. So it said it's only getting worse. So you might as well throw the yellow flag. It isn't about the drivers, T.J.

Believe it or not. I was figuring what they thought about the track. I didn't ask my guy because, I mean, what are we doing out there? I mean, I'm seeing the river run across the front stretch that you're referencing. I'm seeing the standing water in the bus stop. I'm hearing drivers, you know, based on spotter feedback around me, talking about their hydroplaining in the S's and it's not even green yet. Like, I don't understand why we loaded the drivers and attempted to go.

I'm all for racing in light rain. I'm all for racing when the track is wet. I am not for attempting to go green in that scenario just to appease TV. And that's what the hell I think NASCAR had to bow down to is TV's probably standing at the door knocking on. We got to go, man, we got to go. we've already missed our window. We're an hour late. Let's go.

Let's go. Let's go. And they load them up and we do the show and we go, ah, never mind. Yeah. I'm all for the idea of putting on a show of racing in the rain. But it ended up being good when we started. You cannot race in a steady to heavy rain because like T.J. said, the second we have a caution flag, that same scenario, if we're, if it's sunny out when we start racing yesterday and it

starts to rain, you know, we're going to be fine for a while. while. But as soon as we have a stage break or a caution, you know, the standing water is going to build up. And like yesterday, they're like, okay, we're just trying to move some of the standing water. Well, I don't know if you realize, but there's gallons of it falling from the sky while you're trying to move it. So it's not going to go anywhere right now. You know, so I just, I think we just need to scrap the idea. We just looked like we had no clue what we're doing yesterday. Okay, load everybody up. Let's go out there and run. All right, we're coming to green. Oh, never mind. No, we're not coming to green. You know, all right, let's make.

two more parade laps. Let's make, all right, you know what? Let's just bring them down road and get them out. Like, what, we just looked like we had no clue what we were doing yesterday. We just need to scrap the idea of racing in a heavy rain, like, you know, or a steady rain even. You know, we saw Cota was a disaster last year. You know, I mean, how many big wrecks, how many guys almost got hurt because we're racing where guys can't see because it's a driving rain and there's standing water. I mean, the visibility was, another guy at all. Yeah, their visibility was a bigger issue than any of the water yet last year. This year. This year, year, obviously the standing water, they knew they couldn't really race like that. My guy,

I had Scott Tapley on the S's. He's like, he's like literally, there's a river running down the curb in the S's right now. We've seen guys on the racetrack. Like, I don't even know what that guy was doing. Like, like, like trying to unclog drains or something. We've seen him out there with a big pole. I don't know what the hell he was doing. But it's just like, let's just scrap the idea of starting a race in the rain. And if it's start, you know, if it's a heavy rain, we just can't do it. Like we're just not doing. Yeah. Well, light rain. If the track's wet, we can do it. We saw how, the racing was good when it. It was. We we started yesterday. You named who you thought were three very, very good road racers earlier in

the show. Why didn't you put them in the pace car? And why didn't you go right around the racetrack and say, hey, what do you guys think? I mean, you've got AJ Alminger sitting there. AJ, before you get in this car, get jumping here, let's make a lap and what does this look like to you? And if you see a little bit of puddling at that point, you know it's raining its ass off. Like it's going to get worse in the next five minutes or, you know, the time by the time you get back around, it's only getting worse. We talk about it all the time. Like just give me transparency. Come on, get on TV, get on MRI and say, hey, we thought we could go.

We can't go. As soon as we can go, we will go. Like, we still get no communication. Bring drivers pit road, tell them sitting their cars. Okay. Again, like you said, we look unprepared. You just can't race. We can't do that.

The biggest issue is the water on the track. That's the unsafest part. Well, I think it's not going away while it's still raining. Yeah. The visibility would have been the biggest issue. But that comes from the water laying on the track, though. Yeah. You know what I mean?

Like if there's standing water or a river running down the track, it's going to cross the track at some point. We probably... It's just a bad idea. Yeah. I do. I thought when we started the race was awesome. Yeah.

I think if you have a wet race, like the second, you could just say, hey, as soon as it stops raining, we're going to move some of this water and we're going green. That's all you had to say yesterday. Yeah.

And we put on a good show. And even if it started raining lightly at some point in that little run, we're good. You know, even a single file deal was all. I got frustrated. I got frustrated. I took my headset off because I was pissed off.

Yeah, me too. And then I got more frustrated when nobody said anything publicly. Like, hey, here's our strategy. Let's just all sit around here and wait. Like that drives me bananas. Talk about frustrated. Tomorrow, what are you going to test tomorrow? Tomorrow we're going to Martinsville to test for two days.

Me, a bunch of guys, I think it's pretty much every organization is bringing a car. That's cool. The rumor is the last two hours of the test in Martinsville on Wednesday, because we're test tomorrow and Wednesday. It's going to be, they're going to wet the track down and run wet water or wet tire testing at Martinsville. Let me ask you two things on that. It's weird.

We're going to have electrical issue or something. I think everybody's going to have an electrical issue. Let me ask you two things on that. Number one, is it fair to say this is a science project? 100%. Okay. Whose science project is it? NASCAR.

Okay. Who's paying for the science project? If you wreck a car. Not NASCAR. Who's paying a tire bill to go out there and run these tires? That I don't know. That might be NASCAR. All right.

So first thing is it's a science project. The teams are ultimately funding. The second thing is, did you see how fast that track dried yesterday when it was soaking wet? Yeah. Did you see how fast people put slicks on? So if you have 20 cars at Martinsville and the racetrack is damp, how long is it going to take for them to need to put slicks on? Five laps. Dude.

Five laps. Which is crazy. How fast can you dry a wet Martinsville racetrack? If the weather's okay. Not like super cloudy, but okay. How fast? five minutes. Okay. This seems like a waste of time and money to make. Listen, the rumor is, and this is just a rumor I haven't talked to my guys about it yet,

but there is a lot of teams that said, no, we're not doing that. There's a driver I know that said I'm not doing. There's one driver that said you can go to hell. Like, yeah, I'm not doing that. I wonder which one that is. Not my guy. He drives a Ford. I can tell you that much. Okay. But, you know, he, like, not only are the cars super expensive, right? one, two races this year back to back. I already knew what you're talking about. Not only are the car is expensive, right? I mean, we've already determined these cars,

the cost of these cars is pretty ridiculous. But on top of the cost of the car, now you're bolting probably, what, $100,000 worth of data acquisition on there as well? Or, you know, I don't know exactly what it costs, but I assure you it's a lot of money worth of data. There's a lot of sensors on that thing. And you're going to go out there and run around in the rain.

I don't think anybody's going to willingly sign up for that. I just want to know how fast it's truly going to dry if you put 10 cars out there. I'll tell you tomorrow or until you Wednesday. Yeah, just. I personally think it, and look, this sounds crazy. Don't do it at Marinsville, but do it at Charlotte. But we see on the roval we see at Daytona when we watch these guys road road race, they can go on the banking with a wet.

But to your point, the banking is dry. Like even that monsoon of a roval race we had a couple years ago, like the banking was drying out 10 times as fast as the infield was. You know, so, I mean, it's just. I'll tell you what I was really surprised with. When Chris put those dry tires on, I thought it was too. When Christopher put those tires on,

I thought it was too early. Run the All-Star race at Martinsville with the sprinklers on the whole time. Full field. Everybody makes it. Million dollar payday. I'm in. I mean, I got a crazy idea.

I don't know what. That's most of them, really. This is right. Like, how about we just don't race in the fucking range? Like, what? I mean, let's try that. Lenny was my spotter yesterday and he literally said,

just because you can race in the rain, don't mean you should. Who is your other guy? Is that the right model guy? Tapley, yeah, he's like a race director. Yeah, that's the guy that I met. Yeah. Oh, yeah.

Yeah, Thunder Road. Yeah. Nice. Yeah. All right, moving on back to Watkins Glen. Ross Chastain triggers a wreck with Austin Dillon in the bus stop that sent his teammate Kimi Reikunen into the wall and ended his day. That's how you say his name.

This is the easiest part of the show sheet for Jason. He doesn't have to change Ross's name. He just puts the new name behind it. Now for the Ross Chastain to second of the week. The Ross Chastain makes contact with. Yeah. It's the same. And I'm here for it.

Spot on. This was technically the bus stop on the Ross Chastain. Don't give a tour. Like this is the bus stop. I felt so bad last week because I didn't remember what I said during the show. And I went back and listened. Shocker. And I said Ross Crash-Stain has got to stop wrecking people.

Son of a bit he didn't listen. The very next week. I got news for you. He's not going to listen. He causes a wreck with the three car. And it ends up putting his own teammate. And guess where he'd get their motors from? ECR.

Like he kind of wrecked the team alliance guy. Oh, I mean, Indy's made another person mad. Like if I don't know how in the world. he makes it out of the first round of the playoffs. And he's arguably got as much speed as anybody. Not only another person, somebody that he's already made mad. You know, Austin Dillon already made comments about him after that wrecked at Atlanta that he, you know, with True X got wrecked, you know, he was like,

oh, I'm just another victim of Ross Chastain. And now here you are all over again, doing it again to a guy that's not even in the playoffs. I mean, he could win this where he can get in. But this guy's not even in the playoffs right now. He has no reason not to mess. I mean, there's other guys in the playoffs that probably won't mess. I mean, Danny is not going to screw around with him if it's going to hurt himself. But these guys have nothing to lose moving forward.

I just don't know why we keep me included. Why do we keep talking about it when nobody's going to do anything about it? It's like we got the kid at school that everybody's scared of. He does something about it. And he got, this is not the only time in the race. I've seen him blow through there later in the race and I think he's gotten to 14 or somebody. He used Brad up on coming to the white flag, I think. That had to be a battle for what, 20th or so?

A little higher. I mean, I'm serious. What were you racing for? I think we were right around there. Ross is talented. He's fast. He's good for the sport. But I don't know how in the world he makes out of first final.

He just brad up off the six. Obviously, we're not allowed to bet. But if you were in Vegas right now, betting on people make the final four, could you ever put a dollar on Ross Chastain to be in the final four? No. I mean, there's just no way. There's just too many people that owe this guy something. But nobody's done anything.

I know. I'm probably actually going to take the bet because I don't see anybody doing anything. I don't know. Maybe they're waiting on that. I don't know. Don't give a two or rose on. Just continue on. It's got its own bus stop now. Do chew. Yeah. Keep on rolling. You have any horn sounds, Jason? Can you play something? Choochoo. No, that I meant like, that's not a horn sound. That's a smokestack sound. Like digitally, like on your phone and remember when you used to do the rooster. That's a rooster. I think.

That's a dying rooster. Is that a game cock? That's the way we play. You don't like soundboards? I'd be using that stuff all the time. I'll let you control it. Oh my God. Oh, put it over here.

I'll use it all the time. Yes. Do not give T. Yes. Absolutely put it over. Full metal jacket, soundboard. He's a gadget geek anyway.

Do not give him more gadgets. Please. I'm going to bring my stream down. You and Will Harderburn. The gadget, two gadget geekiest people I know. Gadget geekiest. Hey, speaking. Okay.

Did you see? What's his name? Bring a scooter to the roof? Who? The only guy on the roof shorter than me that doesn't. that does part-time stuff. Will Rogers. Oh, really?

On the roof? He had a scooter up there. Wow. The only guy shorter than it. All right. Moving on to the Xfinity series race. Spot on, spot off. Ty Gibbs and William Byron's side by side.

Oh, shoot. Just kidding. Can I start that over? Sure. You're going to have to. You've been perfect the whole show. Why I'm going to do it up now? Listen, let's give you a do-over.

Oh, we get the finger. We got cameras. We got cameras for that. Yeah. Now we're not going to edit it out. It's going to make this section even better. Just smile, sweetheart. It's okay.

Give it to us, Casey. Give us your all right here. A game. Spot on, spot off. Ty Gives and William Byron's side-by-side battle for the lead into the bus stop with five laps from raining

in the Xfinity Series race results in both spinning and losing. Crowd goes wild. Yeah, good. Yeah. Honestly, I'm on three hours of sleep. Leave me alone. I was on two hours last week.

Here's the only bad thing about this. I think that two guys are going for the win. I think that Ty it's very obvious that he's not going to give up the position, even though Larson had at one point knocked Byron almost 100% ahead of Ty to the point that he got clear. But when Ty went in there so deep and so crowded, he got his left rear off the racetrack and he wrecked both of them. So for me, I am personally spot off because, because he wrecked both cars. We had this epic finish building up,

and he took that away from me as a viewer. I wanted to see those guys race it out, and the way he did it, and I think he did it wrong. I do think he screwed up on a lot of ways, but I ain't going to go into that. I'm just going to say, for me, I wanted to see those guys race to the finish,

and because of what Ty Gibbs did, we didn't get to see that. So I'm spot off for the move. First off, he picked the wrong wing. Yep. You know, took the bottom, or took the top, and had a race his way that way to that position,

let the Hendrick cars kind of gang up on him. And, you know, William doesn't get that big run down that back straight away without Kyle pushing him. And then Ty finds himself in a position where he's got three choices. And listen, this move is not a lot different than the move that Kyle Larson made at the end of the race in the cup race, except Kyle executed it better than William did. I mean, and Ty did. If Ty can get in there, another half a car deeper and have control and be wheeled,

to wheel with William into the bus stop. All Ty does is push William to the right and he continues on and wins the race. But he did not get in there deep enough or the 2017 was a little bit better positioned into the bus stop to where he couldn't get in deep enough to get wheel to wheel. But at that point, Ty's really looking at three options.

He's looking at, I'm going to sail this off in there and see what happens for the win. I'm going to stay where I'm at and potentially probably have the same outcome or wreck with the 88 because it's not, you just, it's really not feasible to go through there too wide or completely lift and run third. and pretty much throw away any shot you have a winner.

He does or have that last personality. And that last option is just not on the table for him. We've seen that in the past. And, you know, especially in a race like that where there's really not a lot to lose. You know, obviously he's still somewhat in a battle with AJ for the regular season championship. But, you know, that's not on his mind at that point.

You know, obviously, I think he, I don't know that he regrets it. I think that he just wishes it went better. Obviously, you know, I don't know what you want the guy to do. Like, it's... I mean, I'm spot off. because you put yourself in that situation to start with, and then you tried to make up for it. You tried to drive into the corner super deep already.

You were beat into the bus stop. He was beat. He was beat. He drove it in there super deep, basically saying I'm either going to wreck both of us or you're going to wreck. He did. He wrecked them. You got to know, the part that I don't understand about is,

is Larson and him have a great race at Road America. and with none of this, hey, you're, you know, we're racing hard. You get me, you get me. There was none of that. It was like, you got me, but nah, I'm not going to let you. Like, but I know it wasn't with Larson. It was with William, but like, you weren't done right there. Like, if he beat you into the bus stop, you're not done.

The race isn't over right there, and he's good enough still to get back there and race him. There's nothing wrong with going into the, in the six or into one the next lap, giving him a little nudge and still racing side by side. Like, you just threw the way, like you said, you threw Ray the great finish and possibly a win still because you got beat up through the S and started it on the restart. But I just think you should, at some point, he needs to think, okay, he's got me right here.

I'm going to get him, you know, it's not over. The problem is I think that we, and we saw it all day in that, in those two cars, whichever one of them got out in front of the other one, they controlled the race. The other one really couldn't contend. And I think when you have a car, the 54, we looked at each other, I think it was like lap three or four. And I was like, the 54 is hauling ass.

Like, he is the best, I thought it was the best car. And when you have the best car, and you're, like, you're right. He's beat at that point. You know, he's beat. But you know this as a race car driver. You know, you know this and anything you do, it's hard to accept defeat. Like, you know, it's not easy,

especially when you've been as good as you are all day. You can't just go, well, they got me. you know and when you feel especially when you feel like I'm telling you in his mind and I would think this is what he was thinking like if he can get in there deep enough to where they're wheel to wheel he's back in control because now he's going back to the left and he's probably got the straighter sharp back to do it yeah but he still I mean he didn't get far he only missed by about a quarter car half a car because he hit him in the door pretty big but but he's still thinking like he's still your mindset is still that I can get in there deep enough and do this you know or

your options are I'm going to go for it or I'm going to just going to lift and let these guys both beat me into the bus stop and then I'm going to hope I can drive back by two of them. I don't think the other one goes for. I think he's going to go for it. He's not going to get him though. Oh, I think he is because he's got the preferred line on the entry. It's the same thing. I think that they're going to wreck. I think that the 88 and the 54 are going to wreck if tie stays in there. But if they go in there, if tie lists a little bit and they go in there side by side, him and Larson at that point, like you said, he's got position on him. He carries him where he wants. He chases that. He goes after Byron. Yeah, I mean, listen, I just think he, like I said,

It's hard, and it's hard for people to understand. It's hard to accept defeat. And he was beat at that point. He was beat that point. He decided that he was going to go for it. I'm not saying it was a good move. I think he's good enough to make a race out of it still. I think it was a bad move.

I think Ty understands it's a bad move. I think Ty, you know, he somewhat regrets the making the move. But, you know, he's still at the same point. We've seen this from him before. He's going to go for it. And then William retaliates. I feel bad for him. Poor Ty.

I mean, you got the last name. You're getting your cup series starts right now. You're kicking ass Nick Finney. He's driving the fastest car to race on Saturday. I mean, I'm not saying that car's illegal, but I'm sure had more grip than everybody else had. I mean, this guy's on top of the world right now. He's taking Kyle Busch's job from him.

He's on top of the world. Poor Ty. Poor guy. Is that what's happening? It's what the hell it looks like is happening. Do you see Kyle Busch's remarks this week? It's awesome to me. I hate that.

I mean, I don't know. He's worked awesome. But he went from this complete, butt hole in the media to like this really nice guy the last two weeks. Have y'all noticed that? Like he's answering questions. Ask Joe Gibbs. I don't know.

Talk Joe Gibbs. He went from that to opening up and actually telling his story. I appreciate that. If you want to win me over, tell me your story. Tell me what's going on. So you're saying there's a chance. I'm just saying. I don't know.

Is there? Proust in the pudding. Proust. I mean, what's trying? You'll see how much different he is. We got a topic about that cover of. Yeah. I thought Jason didn't have one.

Well, you don't read the message that you get sent. Where's that? It's an ex-DBC. A 16th driver will win Saturday night's Daytona race and knock the last driver in on points out of the playoffs. Sounds good to me.

Me too. I was going to say, if anybody at this table is spot off and punch him in the face. We all three need a win. We're all three hours. out of the playoffs. Who's in the B? I hope Justin Haley.

Look, if I'm Justin Haley, and he and I have not talked about this, I am going into stage three of this race, my career is on the line. I'm win at all cost. Different position than Brad Kedalowsk. Brad Kislauski. What country is you from?

Is he related to Ricken? Is he related to Ricken? Thanks for asking. I think it's next to Finland where Kimmy's from. So, Freddie Craft Finland. Bubble Wallace. Must Wallace.

Bubble Wallace, people. I can't talk today. You can't even Casey a lot of shit. You can't say any dance. I deserve it all back. Bubble Wallace is not in a must-win situation. He just signed a multi-year extension. If I'm Justin Haley, I roll into this weekend with the swagger of, I got to win.

Let me ask you this. You said you're Justin Haley. You're going in stage three thinking you must win. What do you do at stage one and two? That. I ain't getting in the middle of it because there are people in this race that do need stage points to maintain or better their position in the regular season hunt to get that playoff point that's going to be paid out at the end of the race.

We know Chase Elliott's already got his 15 playoff points. But these other guys, they need them. They need stage points. We do not care about a stage point. If I were running this race team, and I'm not, Chris Rice is, I would literally say I better not catch you in this pack in stage one and stage two. We have nothing to gain. Just don't lose the draft.

Once stage three starts, though, you got to get in there and command your position of, I got to learn, I got to see where I'm fast, I got to put myself in some situations. I need to know how I can recover. Justin Haley's a really good plate racer. I don't think he's Brad Keselowski good. Brad already knows all these things. Brad's already thinking about what he's got to do in this race. but I think Justin's got to spend this week

and figure out how do I set myself up in stage three to be in contentional to win this race? This is a do-or-die moment for me on my season. Yeah, to your point, 788 to 761. That's what, 27 points, separate the top five in points. Wow. So that's our second to fifth, I should say. Big deal.

That's a lot of playoff points. You know, that's whatever. I think it's 10 for second and all the way down to like five or six. Five or six. It goes one per spot, yep. So, you know, that's a big deal. Listen, I know what our strategy is. is it's the same as we always have.

Me and Bub, we're going to try to go to the front and stay up there. It's just how we raise. That's how we always do it. And if we see, if we get stuck 10th or 12th then we see guys driving like idiots,

then yeah, we're going to go to the back and wait. But like the guys that it's such, it's going to be such a different strategy. Let me ask you this, TJ, you obviously won a bunch of play races. Brett,

you've won a bunch. Does the winner, the likelihood of the winner coming from a guy that's been in the mix all night long or a guy that's been in the mix all night long? Guys been in the mix all night. But look at the, Denny Hamlin, man. He usually forfeit stage one. He's usually not the guy up there in

stage one, duke in it out, but stage two, he gets up in the middle of it. But I mean, look, man, we've seen, we've seen guys like Austin Dillon, you know, come through. We saw Ross Chastain. May, come through and get a miracle win, just right place, right time. It can happen here. But stage three for us as a team, like I don't agree with your strategy of going up there and duke in it out, stage one, stage two. I like it. I like racing. I do too. but if you're right if you I mean I I don't know if there's really a right answer if I'm in three wide I've been wrecked from the lead I've been wrecked from 30 at the

don't matter so I so lie I if I'm three wide and in the middle and I'm running 16th coming to the end of stage one and they wrecked and I get in it that's my fault oh yeah you can obviously control where you're at no like like I promise you if we're anywhere near the pack and we're not in the top 10 race stage points like we're not in the good position side of it we'll draw back a little bit and look man no sense in Justin and I were talking about last night on the plane, we can beat Bobba Wallace and points. We're just barely behind you guys.

There's a couple guys barely behind us. We want points. So it's not that we don't want stage points. They do matter. But for this race and the way it plays out, I'm all in on stage three, try to win a race. If you are, now flip the script a little bit, Ryan Blaney's got a 25 point cushion to Martin Chewex.

Oh, boy. What do you do? Because, I mean, if you get up in the mix and you wreck early, you're out of the playoffs. You're in trouble. I get behind the 19 and I ride with him. And if there's a wreck, I just, if he's in it, I'm in it.

Or just wreck the 19th. I mean, I think, honestly, I play off his cards. You do one of two things. He's one of the best plate racers in the field. You do one of two things. He won this race last year. Martin Truex Jr. is not known as a great plate racer.

And this race has been won, this race specifically has been won before from a lot of attrition. So I'm either think you go all in and you go to the wall the entire time like digging as hard as you can trying to lead every single lap or you, your strategy is going to switch to whatever he's doing. You either copy him or you race as hard as you can. I think make him come to you. I think if I'm in that position, I'm going to slack off stage one and just see where he ends up. If he cuts 10 points out of my lead, now I got to go.

Now it's time to race. If he doesn't get stage points and you still got a 25 point lead, I might ride again. I definitely light up stage one. And Martin's a guy that's got to race as hard as he can every lap. He cannot afford to go out of your ride because of the scenarios that you just mentioned. It's going to be a 60% chance of rain right now on Saturday. Oh, it's going to rain. Low of 75.

It's going to be dark. Will we start it in the rain? Yeah. Why not? It's going to be dark. Even though this car is different than last year's car. The tires wider. It's still going to race differently than it race for the Daytona 500.

It's going to be more grippy. It's going to be easier to run three wide. That creates more opportunity for crashes. This is brilliant on NASCAR's part. Scale of 1 to 10, that $400 million renovation they did, this is a 10. If I am not a race fan, I still watch this thing on Saturday night. This is a epic buildup for a lot of different storylines. I'm here for it.

so I'm going to add a spot on spot off topic if it's okay with you Jason I'll let you be the assistant producer today good job only because I was listening I was listening to this as I was doing my notes this morning because we had a little bit later start time and I got to listen to the teardown with Jeff Jeff and Jordan and they brought up a really good point of listen Kurt Busch has the ability he's Kurt Busch is in the playoffs now we're not going to have enough winners and not Kurt out Kurt Busch has the ability to forfeit his waiver and take himself out of the playoffs if he does not think he's going to be ready to

compete in the playoffs. The way the rules are structured, I had to ask Bob about this last week because I wasn't sure if Kurt does not forfeit his waiver, takes his waiver, accepts his spot in the playoffs and it does not race the rest of the year, he's 16th in points. Like he's still in the playoffs. They don't add anybody in. We just have 15 guys competing for the championship. Kurt is essentially just a 16th place point guy if he does not make another lap for the of the season. But he does have the ability to waive that right to, you know,

because obviously the rule is win a race or highest in points, but you also must attempt to start every race. He hasn't. So if he waives that right, he's not no longer eligible for the playoffs. There's, they were going back and forth about this decision has to be made before Daytona this week.

Like the Kurt has to say, if he's going to do this, he needs to be doing this now because, you know, that's, you know, it's not fair to do it after Dayton. Well, I'm going to tell you right now, he's not going to do it right now because there's no way he's going to forfeit his playoff spot and potentially add Ryan Blaney to the playoffs. Now, if we go to Daytona and if we have a new winner

and Ryan Blaney's a odd man out, he's adding Ryan Blaney to playoffs to compete against the rest of the Toyotas. They're not going to sign up for that. But if we come out of Daytona and Ryan Blaney points his way in and Martin Truex is the guy sitting there as the first man out of the playoffs, then I think it becomes a little more interesting if he gives up that right or not. Because I don't know, you know, I have no idea what the Kurt situation is.

I know, obviously the same team, but very fluid week to week. You know, we get, you know, no notice or anything about if he's coming back or not. You hear some rumors that he may be done for the year. You know, he may be done, period. But, you know, it'll be interesting to see with this, if this, you know, if Martin Truex is sitting there out of the playoffs and the chances are Kurt's not going to be able to perform, do they put some kind of deal in place where, you know, hey, I'm not going to be able to do it? I'm out, put Martin in.

And would you, because Jeff and them were kind of alluding that that's similar to adding Jeff Gordon a year and whatever you, the show you guys caused it, what Richmond was? No, this is that. These things are way different. I actually don't like this scenario that you just put in front of me to where if I'm Kurt Bush and I don't run Darlington, I'm immediately out of the playoffs. Well, you're not out. If I'm on a medical waiver. No, you're not out. You're in the playoffs. And he can come back at any point. He can come back in round two and three and race for 15 points.

At any point, he can come back. But I'm saying, I'm saying if I miss Darlington, because of let's say that there's a bad wreck this weekend, knock on wood, and somebody springs their ankle. We'll make it a simple injury. They can't race, but they're a playoff driver. If they can't race at Darlington, they should not be kicked out of the championship conversation.

They should be able to come back the next week in a win or you're out scenario, as would be the following week. Even if they can come back in and points their way in, they should have that opportunity. So I don't agree with this scenario you just put in front of me. Well, they have that opportunity. So they can come back at any point in the playoffs. Obviously, if you're out, if you get eliminated in the first round one,

you're done. But he can come in any point in round one and win a race and be back in. Then Kurt Busch deserves to be the 16th guy in. He deserves to be the guy in and he deserves to make that decision on a week-to-week basis. And he damn sure I wouldn't make the decision going on this week anyway, Unless, here's where it gets ethical or unethical. If Kurt Bush knows for a fact he's not returning to this car over the course of the next four weeks, he should announce that now. Ethically.

But there's some unethical that goes on around here. Okay? You think? So, selfishly, if I'm Kurt Busch and if I'm 2311 Motorsports and if I'm Andy Graves of Toyota or whomever else is involved in these conversations, you're waiting to see what plays out and it becomes a strategy. TJ, what do you think? I think just go to Daytona and race and if the right people make it in. If you don't make it in, I don't know if there's anything.

I don't think anything should be switched around. If you didn't make it, you didn't make it. That's the way I look at it. There's no switching people around. I'm okay with only having 15 guys in it. Because the 17th guy didn't deserve to be in it or he would have been the 16th guy. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. go race, whoever makes it, makes it, and if Kurt can't race, then he can't race.

I'm fine with that. We're still going to have a champion. Do you think there needs to be a line, a line drawn before we start the race? Hell no. I want to see these two guys race for their spot. For Kurt and on Kurt's side of it. They have to tell Kurt, like either you have to forfeit now or you can't forfeit. That's absolutely nonsense.

He deserves the extra week to rehabilitate himself. You're taking all the storylines out of it. if you do that. If that's on the table that he can really habilitate himself and get back in the car, give him that opportunity. Don't take it away from him. That's assinite. Yeah, I mean, I agree. And you're changing all the storylines going into that big time. I mean, there is

no. I mean, there's so. Wow. I mean, yeah, but I mean. It's just, it's just like they were, they were of the opinion. Like, if he's going to do, he's got to do it now. And I'm like, there's no way he's going to do it now because there's no way he's going to voluntarily take himself out of the playoffs and then potentially anybody. Corey Lajoy wins

the race on Saturday night. And now you just added Ryan Blaney to the playoffs to race against the rest of the Toyota's, that would not be an ideal situation for them. You know, so, you know, the idea that he has to get this out of the way before Daytona, I think I disagree with.

I do think Corey's too. He's 31st. I don't think he's... He can't be in the playoffs. Damn. You know, the best part about Daytona is the unknown. Oh, yeah.

Corey could... Well, Corey don't matter. I'm just saying like... Somebody else. Yeah, like, Ricky Stanhouse. I mean, there's guys that are really good... I mean, Busher, Stanhouse.

Bubba. There's a lot of guys good in the draft. Yeah. What if Brad wins the race? Brad, Brad. I mean, Brad, maybe he has, what's he got about 400 plate wins across his career? What I'm saying.

I screwed up. Put him in a road course race last week with my picks because you told me y'all are going to be good. We were. You sucked all day. It rained. I mean, that changes everything big time.

One of those wild cards. But it's great to see this is the perfect scenario. You got two guys really going for it. Then you got all the wildcars. Sorry, Jason. That was my only, only addition to the show today. That was my. Good job.

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Reaction Feeter starts now. You know, Tide Gives really reminds me that spoiled cousin used to play video games with. And whenever you had him beat, he knew he couldn't get past you so he'd just like run through the corner and destroy you both. Yeah, power off. And then shut the console off or restart it.

Fibu Kuh needs to grow up. Good God. True. He is. I mean, listen, that's what we talked about. He just did not at that point want to accept defeat. No, he pushed the power buttons, but he did. It's just not in his makeup right now.

He drove in there wide open and got up and pushed the power button. Actually, William pushed a power button between six and seven. I heard that William got him back. I didn't see it. He did. I think, unfortunately, we will now never see Ross Chesting go to the nation of Finland as the Ross Chastain, don't give a f***, just made a stop. at Watkins-Gwin and it resulted

and can be righting and crashing. So good job to Ross Chastain for ruining the best storyline of the week in NASCAR and probably the biggest storyline of the entire year. That's a little stretch.

We can talk about Ross all he wants. He doesn't care. He does not give a... I always run into Ross and I think that he's going to be like, damn, you know, what the... Like Noah gets upset when we talk about him. No, like I was running to Ross

and he'll just start telling me funny story about something somebody else said and I was like oh I guess he's not mad at us he don't care he don't give me shit yeah he doesn't care and he's soft spoken how's that oh he's good yeah we're gonna grab some dinner tonight I mean so soft spoken like I'm here for it

he puts that helmet on he's an animal I'm here for it something right till he hits your man right I'm staying here in line for the porta potty after the race and I still don't understand what the hell Chase is doing in the left lane on these last two restarts Kyle did the smart thing

door him out of the way and clear him drive away what an idiot he's a contender he's on the list he's on the list to pick from on my phone luckily for him he's going to be pretty far down on the list but does chase elliot have some

Canadian in him because that was the most polite you I've ever seen out of a person who just got the dog food wrecked out of him the man is so pissed off he isn't even thinking that it's Daytona next week it's Bristol in his mind next week. Kyle Larson, be prepared to get by your teammate.

Geez. One thing I will tell that guy is he definitely did not wreck the dog food out of him. I mean, you don't know what. Buddy Coffoyd wrecked the dog food out of his stuff. I mean, my God. I was going to bring that. I can't really blame him, though, because that's a bad spot. Oh, yeah, you couldn't see.

I don't know what the hell that other guy was. Did you see this wreck? Someone was broke in the right front. And it was, I saw a head-on shot of it. and it was the right front was literally on the slow car yeah yeah the right front was digging into the ground turning the car like it like it was bad even the like flag saying couldn't see that but congrats to one of chad's drivers jesse love oh jessie love with the win but yeah we did that guy did not chase or Kyle did not wreck the dog through that of chase do you ever think jesse use his last

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and we'll answer the best ones. Freddie, I would like to nominate you to read them. Well, we got another one from. If he sends a question, he said a question and it's in. I don't know. Mr. Decoq, if you have any questions every week or Ms. DeCock maybe, I don't know. There's no first name.

But if you have a question, send it in. We will use whatever it is. I promise you. All right. This first one is from Casa Mofo. What are the two? That's pretty good. House mofo.

House mofo. What are the chances? Kyle Bush ends up at RCR. Brett, you know the answer. Please tell us more. We know where he's not going to answer. end up. He's not going to end up back in that 18 car. You don't think when he said this week things are going to look a lot different than they have for the last 15 years. That was pretty

much a declaration of I'm out. Jason, how many times can you hit the microphone with the same camera? That's a really long blind. I mean, I hate to say we called this a while back, but we kind of called this a while back. Like, I don't know. I'm pretty sure we saw it of Pocono. I've been, I've been on this Ty Gibbs train for a while of him getting the cup and I thought it was going to be the 19 at the end of next year and then the way things transpired this year and you know Kyle Busch's demands for certain monetary things not coming to fruition early enough in the year a lot of things were going on behind the scenes that we're all hearing about and and look I don't know where he's going but I do know he's not going back in the 18 I would say

percentage wise on this pretty low pretty low at RCR yeah I think it's lower than what I'll other places. What do you think? 20%? Because of financial reasons? I think, I think 20 is probably a little low. I think that there's,

I think there's two Chevy teams probably at the top of the list and there's a Toyota team on the outside with a shot at it. So you think Ford's done? I think so. I think that, you know, the only Ford option,

I think is Stuart Haas, and I don't, I think that. Let me ask you this. How many people, we have asked this question on here before. How many owners can truly afford

to hire Kyle Busch? I mean, out of all of them? No, not all of them. All of them would be on the table. None of them owners that I know of are not loaded.

I mean, there's three or four guys right. How many billionaires are in the garage? Two. Penske. Maybe four. Penske. Hendrick Haas

Collick, to my knowledge. Maybe Matt's not a billionaire, but if he ain't he's close, he's got a big-ass boat. When you got a big ass boat. That means you got a billion? Well, if it costs $30,000 a buck in a something, it means you got some damn money.

Way the revenue. Or a little credit card bill to pay every month. I don't know which. But like I look at them four guys and it's like, okay, you got Stuart Haas left there and you got colleague left there. I don't know how you say no to a billionaire because that's who, look, man, look at what Gene Haas did with Stewart Hoss Racing. I mean, he started this thing with, I believe, Jeff Rick Green and Scott Riggs back in the day. they couldn't run top 20 to save their life, but he eventually got it to where it is.

I think Matt Collig is on that same plan and that same path. You know, this is the first year he's in the Cup Series. They've got a Cup Series win. First year, he's full-time. I don't know. I think the billionaires are in play for this guy. I think if you're an odds maker, I think the favorite to Land Kyle Bush right now is probably Calle Grayson.

I think that, you know, not far behind them. I think you have a, are and you have a 2311 depending on what Kurt does but I don't think Kyle has the ability to wait and see what's going to happen with Kurt now maybe he'd obviously their brother so he might know already but you know I think that if Kurt announces tomorrow that he's out for next year out you know or he's retiring then that seat opens up maybe that's something they they explore but because we Danny likes to make splashes we've seen that a hundred times um but I think I just I go back to, you know, that, that 2311 to me, there's other pieces that have to fall for that. Yeah, a lot.

For sure. And what the biggest deterrent for me on that one is, Kyle said, I want to go somewhere that I know I have a home for a very long time and that I know my truck series team is going to survive and that I know I'm going to be able to race against my son and transition him into NASCAR. Denny doesn't have all those things. Not right now. No. I'm not saying Toyota can't come fill that void. I'm not saying Denny can't have conversations with Michael Jordan, who also is probably a billionaire. He might be. But I don't see Michael Jordan write the check for this guy. No.

I mean, and like you said, it's not a long term. Like if Kyle was coming to 2311, it's for one year. It's a bridge to get him to somewhere else. That I think. Oh, sorry. I dropped some. I think the other deal is if, you know, RCR, for that to happen, I think one person leaves there and goes to the new seat. So that's the only way.

There's no vacancy right now. How does that work with his track team? Well, they say, okay, you're good to go. That's how it is. a toy with a manufacturer and let's say he's looking at the Chevy team. I mean that doesn't make a difference. You could cut the noses off and put Chevy bodies

on them and it'd be the same thing. They would fix that. Yeah, they would Chevy, I mean, we've heard rumors that Chevy is very interested in stepping up their their footprint in the truck series. Who's the third best driver that Chevrolet has right now?

We know who the top two are. In what? William Byron. I mean, William Byron is a third best driver. Or I mean, all you're saying, Like right now, I think Tyler Redick is the third. I think, I think Kyle Larson Chase Elliott are top.

They're top dogs. They're hunting. Them dogs are hunting. Burr-r-r-r-r-r-r-r. I don't think, I don't think you have a third-best guy with Tyler Redick leaving. Like, I think the drop-off to your third-best guy is Ross

is probably their next guy. Pretty substantial. I think it's pretty substantial. Would you rather have Kyle Busch for five years or Ross Chastain for five years? Who's going to sell more? Who's going to get you more attention? Who's going to keep you in the forefront?

I'd rather have Kyle to train a young one. I think I'd pick Kyle Bush and that's it. I would too. Right now, right now, still Kyle because if you are, speak hypothetical. If you are Matt Collick and you have an opportunity to hire Kyle Busch,

do you do everything that you can to get him? Absolutely. It's a game changer. What is the best thing that Collegers has ever done since they've been in existence? Hired AJ Almondinger. Hired AJ Almondinger, who was the best driver available for them with what they were trying to build. And Chris Rice

knew what he was trying to build. He knew how many cars he wanted in Exfinity last year. He knew how many cars he wanted in Cup this year. They made the moves to get charters at the time when charters were super expensive. I don't know how you can question who should go after Kyle Busch more than them. Stuart Haas, they're still going to have Kevin Harbitt. How well is Kevin Harbour going to work with Kyle Busch? How do you think that's going to go?

Talk about 1A and 1B again. It ain't going to happen. So I don't know. I think, I'll say, I think 40% chance he goes to Chevrolet, 30% chance he stays at Toyota, just given that Kurtz scenario that's out there, and then 20% chance he's at Ford. So that's 90 where you put the other 10%? He's going on the BBC with us. Yeah, he's going to run midgets.

This next one is from B underscore the cock 48. It's like a third grade class in here. that happens. Who would be your pick to see in the Project 91 car next? Where are we going? What race track? You know, it's better that it's a B and not a C because that would be really bad. What race track? What race track we're going to before we say this? You pick any track, any driver. Who y'all got? I want Donnie shots at Bristol Dirt track. You just because you think he's hot. And Daniel Ricardo, though. Danny Rick's looking for a ride.

He might need to drive that thing full time next year. He's a Bills fan, so I'm cool with that. Chad has a midget ride available. I'm pretty sure he's not going to want that. I will pay. I want 11-time winner, Donnie shots at Knoxville Nationals. I like it. At Bristol Dirt Jack.

I like it. I don't. Donnie ran already in a truck. Did you know that? I can know. I can pick who I want. Did you actually know that? Yes, I can pick who I want.

Man. I like the, I like the thought of just bringing in guys, like, that just never done it before. Just so they can really see how good these guys can be. That's a great name. You're throwing out of right now. Pick one. Guys.

I like, I do like the thought of bringing other Formula One guys. Like I wouldn't. I mean, I wouldn't mind seeing Ricardo run, one race. And maybe, um, you think he's cute too. No, he's just a Bill's fan. I've already said that. Um, I would like to see, you know, him come in there and try it. He's got a big personality.

He'd be one to look in. fun of Americans? No, it was funny. He's one. He also said doorbubb McLear. He's one that made fun of Americans, right? I thought it was awesome. I don't remember him making fun of him. The way he was talking. He was talking like he was from Texas. Okay, keep going. Was that him? I would like to bring. I'm a fan of that guy.

I would like to bring George Russell into there and let him run it so they could boo him across stage one time. Yeah, Jesus. Poor guy. They wouldn't make it long. Give me, uh, give me Scotty McLaugh. I like that guy. He'd be good. He's, he's, he's, he's a fun. He's, he's a bit of a clown. Didn't Marco Andretti say he wanted to run. Marko's running.

Marco's running the Roval, I think, in the 48. I think McLaughlin could win. No, Exfinity. Marco Andreddy. Yeah. If you were to put Scott McLaughlin in an Xfinity car at a road course, he would be very hard to beat. Oh, yeah.

I mean, he would be very hard to be. That's what I'm saying. Stick him in the 91 at a road course somewhere. He let him pick somewhere he's been before. So who is the offer pad question of the week winner? It's a cock. Of course. No, did we already give it to them?

You can give it to it. wherever he like. Well, give it a casamofo. That was more of a conversation piece. Well, didn't the other one win last week? I wish, I wish we knew where Kyle Bush was going because it's killing everybody. But the good news is he's finally publicly saying, I don't know where, I don't know, I don't think I'm going to be back here. Does Hirsch go with him? If I'm Tony Hirschman, I follow Kyle Bush. Oh, I disagree. Oh, what do you know? Why? I'm just saying, if you, if Kyle Bush is leaving, Gibbs is coming in there, you would think, right?

Like, that's the natural progression. So if you got a 20% pay raise to go with Kyle Busch, you would stay there. Yep. Wow. Brett, are you waiting for your phone to ring? I know Kyle pretty much loves you, so. I'm not waiting for anything to ring. I'm good.

So if Hersh goes, if Hersch stays, who... If Hersch stays, who signs up to spot for Kyle. That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm wondering. Anybody. Honestly, anybody that doesn't have a job is going to sign up. the spot for him. But, no, dude, let's assume that he goes to a team that's going to pay you top dollar, you're going to be able to get a top guy. I think.

100%. I think, I think people are going to be calling whoever hires him and says, hey, I want a spot for that guy. People are probably blowing Herschman's phone up right now. Are you going? What's you doing? Well, he's a fucking if he entertains him people. Oh, I know. I'm just saying, like, that's people, that's what happens. In these situations, I let people speak for me over the last two years. Oh, Brett ain't doing. this and Brett is doing this. I promise you there's probably one person on the roof other than me knows what the hell Brett's doing and it ain't none of you other

idiots. Could you imagine Brett spotting for Kyle? I know that's what I'm saying. That would be awesome. I spotted for Kyle. I mean every week we ran second in a truck race in Talladega. No, I want like every week through the grind when he gets mad. Of all the guys I've spotted for in my career and we're talking Kevin Harvick, Dale Jarrett, Greg Biffle, Michael Waltrip, Elliot Sadler, Clint Boyer, Jeff Burton, I could keep going because we do a lot of guys that aren't our guys part-time bubble walls last year

Warkins Glen. Kyle Bush needed a spotter less than any other driver I've ever worked with. He was making moves and I was like, yeah, dude, dude, dude, you clear, you good. You probably haven't worked with him, but I mean, this is I don't mean this. But that's a truck race. He drives in the front by itself. I don't mean this is a knock on anybody, but I feel

like that's a similar situation like a Kyle Larson. Agreed. You know, like a lot of these guys that grew up dirt racing kind of have a little bit more awareness of what the hell's going on around. Let's be honest, though. Justin Haley, actually is second on my list. of not needing a great spotter. Casey could literally spot for Kyle on a truck and it'd be the same result.

Kyle Bush, yeah. Okay, well, congrats to Casa Mofo for... Casa. Casa Mofo. Casa Mofo. House, motherfucker. That's what that stands for. Is it Casa Grande?

It's Casa. Jason made that bet this week. I don't have any money left, Jason. You got it all. It is time for us to get into our favorite X-Fi more than fast moments from the week. Whether you're behind the wheel or online, speed isn't the only thing you need.

So what were your favorite more than fast moments this week? TJ. You know, I'm going to go, I'm going to be probably a little biased, but it was really pretty ballsy at the time. I'm going to give Christopher Busher for putting them tires on because I thought it was too early. And that track was still pretty wet, in my opinion.

And he come down there and put them tires on and went out there and made up a lot of ground. So I'm going to give it to Christopher Busher. My X-Fiddley X-5 more the fast moment, I think has to go to Kyle Larson. I mean, you get back-to-back wins, Xfinity Cup series, at Watkins Glen, place that is tough, it's fast,

it requires a lot of mental fortitude, and it required him making a very aggressive move against a teammate. This is why I love NASCAR way more than F1, because we don't have team orders in those situations. We race and we race to win and he kissed the girl. He got the money.

He got the trophy and got the five playoff points and he's off to Daytona with a lot less stress and then what he would have. Yeah, I mean, Kyle was going to be mine, obviously, but I'll go, my X-Fini X-Fi moment, more than fast moment, we'll go to Michael McDowell. The beginning of that race,

when it was a little bit slick out there on wet tires, he drove straight to the lead. And he was hauling ass. And if it would have stayed raining and stayed wet, I think he would have been pretty hard to handle. so I'll give him my X-Finity X-5 more than fast moment. I'll tell you who should get an honorary mention

is Todd Gilden. Todd Gillan was fast yesterday. I don't know what. He was leading the race whenever they had some sort of issue or whatever, but he was wheeling it. His last two road courses, he's been phenomenal, really.

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Follow at Xfinity Racing on Twitter for even more X-Fi more than fast moments. And Casey, don't forget to vote for your favorites. Thank you to Xfinity, Prague Premier Partner of NASCAR. What an idiot! Let's move on to what an idiot. Brett? What an idiot. I'm going to leave this one. for Freddie, because I know who he's going to pick. I got two, though. I don't know who to put. You can share.

I know. I'm going to go politically correct today. I'm going to pull a T.J. I'm going to pick Chase Elliott because you picked the wrong lane, dude. Like, what did you not, what information did you not have that you needed to know? I need to take the inside right here. So he gets my one to need it. Cost him the race.

Big, big loss. T.J. Go ahead, Freddie. I want to hear what you say. I don't want to take... All right. I want to hear you ran if it's good. I don't know which one he's going to pick right here.

So I had my new one idiot boxed up, ready to ship off to Rickware Racing to join the other 500 awards they have over there. And I would... I was putting the packing tape on there, ready to ship it off right up until... And if you don't know, Rickware Racing, somebody Rickware Racing left a piece of lead-all loose on their car. And it came out and just about killed three or four photographers, tungsten, whatever it was. Blew through a fence in the bus stop. I mean, it's just one of the most neglectful things. things you can do in racing.

And it's probably the most dangerous. We've seen pieces of tongue center ballast, whatever you want to call it, come out and hit cars and destroy them. It's just completely unsafe. And they're going to get the hammer dropped on and they're going to lose crew chief, car chief, engineer, which they can't afford. Probably a monetary fine of some sort. But that was, that was, I'm like, there's no way anybody can beat this.

And then good old Mayette Snyder showed up in the Xfinity race and wrecked, I don't know. It seemed like every time there was a wreck, Maid was in it. and his car is destroyed. And I see him come out of the garage 10 laps down. It may be nine. I don't know exactly, but I'm pretty sure he was about 10 laps down. So you're saying there's a chance.

When he came out of the garage with the car destroyed and proceeded to make a lap around the Watkins Glen beautiful facility. It's a great track. Just dumping every drop of oil that was in that car all over the racetrack. And NASCAR sees it at some point. I think NASCAR saw it probably around. around the bus stop. And they were like, get the 31, stop the 31 right now.

Stop them. Stop them. Get him off the racetrack. And you can see it on TV. It is just literally pouring fluid out of it. Like it is, it is not leaking. It is dumping fluid.

And he proceeds to drive all the way back around the racetrack, switching lanes, luckily, off of the carousel and going halfway up that straightaway in one lane and then switching over to the other lane and the other half of the straightaway. And proceeds to drive through turn six, drive through turn seven. and then finally does stop right at the opening to pit road. Perfect. Wow. I mean, and listen, you know, this is you can talk about Cody Ware and Rick Ware Racing all you want.

Nobody did that purposely. It was a mistake made. Cody didn't know that the lead was going to come out of the car. You know, I like to pick on them guys, obviously, when they do stuff wrong. But that was a mistake that was made by somebody. This was a knowing situation where they are. telling you to stop before you do this. And listen, this is how bad this was.

Brett was in the wreck. This happened during the Daniel Hemrick caution. So Daniel Hemrick hits the wall. Daniel, you know, Brett checks, make sure Daniel's okay. They start cleaning up that wreck. Brett packs up his bags and is leaving the roof now. Before we went green, Brett sent me a picture from the bar by our hotel that was 30 minutes away. Yeah.

It was a 30 minute question, 30 minute caution flag because of this idiot that drove around the racetrack. boiling the whole place down and we had to bring. I mean, there was more speedy dry out there than Myrtle Beach has sand. I mean, it was, it was ridiculous. It was a lot on TV as well. It's inexcusable and it cannot happen. What do you think they should do to him for that?

There's got to be, I mean, obviously they're going to call him into the hall or him and the crew chief get called in. Was Maya told to stop by a spotter? According to the spotter on the roof, he didn't get called to the hauler because he was telling him to stop. So Maya had the information, assuming that his radio was working, he had the information. he needed to stop. In my opinion, you're not going to like this, or you may love it. He cost us 20 minutes. Is that fair?

At least. I'd find him $1,000 a minute. Because your viewers, your people in attendance, it's negligence at that point. It's no different than, I mean, it's on purpose. If they said stop, then freaking stop. And if you aren't obey my command, I'm going to charge you $1,000 for every minute you cost small broadcast. There has to be some penalty because

and we were talking, I think it was like Chris Mona that standing next to me. Like stuff like that would not happen back in the day because they knew like if they screwed up Mike Helton's race or whoever, like they were going to have the wrath of God come down on them. And these guys now they don't care.

Like what are you doing? Like your car, why are you even back on the racetrack? You're 10 laps down. Your car is destroyed. Take your L and sit in the garage. It's not your day. Like go home. Like what are you doing?

It's not your day. Is it bad? I still want to give the people that locked the gates in Michigan, the Water Nidious still? No, it's not bad. Because I really just want to keep doing that the rest of the year. You know, I don't know if it's what an idiot or what a brilliant guy, but watching, I did the Arker race.

That was an idiot probably guaranteed. No, it was the end, though. I mean, you got Brandon Jones sitting back there just waiting, and he goes out into one and gives the kid, was it Taylor? Yes. He gives him just a little bit of a shot, and Taylor just cleans out Sammy Smith, you know, way up the racetrack and stuff. I can't figure out if that was a planned move or an idiot move.

But I mean, I really know there's some better ones, but that's kind of what are, I'm going to go with that. I have to give another award this week, and it's the exact opposite. It's what a genius award. And it's going to go to NASCAR or somebody at NASCAR. You about to say this? Whoever, yeah, whoever came up with the alternate star finish line and a greener. read to it is a genius because that has saved us so many headaches in practice and qualifying, mainly qualifying because what happened was you used to come by the start finish line and then

you would shut down and there'd be five guys coming behind you on runs and you're trying to navigate where they're at. Now you finish in turn five or turn six. You're done. You come to pit road. It's on the middle of the straightaway. That's between five and six. But everywhere we go, we have an alternate star finish line now and it's just alleviated so many of those problems during qualifying. The only bad part about that is, is it at least at the glen, it's in the middle of a straightaway. Some of them, yeah. You can't put it, you're better off putting it in the middle of the S is at Sonoma than you are turn 10. Turn 10 entry?

Yes, you cannot put the line. That's Kosovoire about that. Yes, you cannot. It looks like Clint Boyer on that motorcycle wreck. He had an Atlanta that time where they're racing into a, the finish line is a 90-year-corner. It's a drag race. In Atlanta. He might kill himself.

Yeah, I know. It was awesome to watch, but I mean. We need to get Clint on here. I'm going to call him. That'd be fun. I just saw him on Saturday. Yeah, I'm going to find him Monday. He's,

ain't got nothing to do, which is every Monday. Hopefully doesn't act like Noah. All right, BBC picks. Oh, boy. I got Freddie and T.J. with five.

Casey, bless your heart, honey. I really thought you had a shot last week with Harvard. So did I. You should have picked him the week prior or the week prior to that. I got a shot up. I tried to you. I mean,

but Jason took him. All right, so next week we'll reset our drivers. We'll have everybody for playoffs but Brett and I are leading with seven wins. Freddie and T.J. second with five. Casey and last with two. T.J. one on a Sunday with A.J. Almnager stole Freddy's victory. Yeah. And Casey, I need you to win here. I need to win or I need you to win. So I need you to really get a good pick. And I'm going first, right? Yeah. Man, I'm going to go with this guy,

not because he won the Daytona 500, but because I know how fast. I knew it. I knew, I knew how fast those Penske cars are. I'm going with Austin Cendrick. Oh, nice. Okay.

I was on the McDowell, Busher, Austin Dillan Austin Cendrick fence. I had a bunch to choose from and I'm going on

with Austin Cendric because I know how fast those Penske cars are. Oh, man. Them and JGR are fast. Let's go,

Case. I'm between two. That sounds like Do I need to consult with you about this? Sure. Not permitted.

There's only really one guy you should pick, Casey. Downhouse or a little joy. Where am I too? Like I said, there's only one guy you should pick her Casey.

I know that I like Let her pick her over if she wants. Last time you all let her the wrong way. Or then you're later that. Somebody spelled Stenhouse wrong, but I will take Ricky. Stenhoes. Yep.

Good old Stenhose. I'm taking murdering names over here today, Jason. Brad Kiselowski. Kislowski. There's no O in Kislowski. Kesslowski. Because there you go. See, I taught you something.

I guess. That's a very. I will take Damn, I was going to take Kislauski Do I pick Brett or do I not pick Brett? I'll take Alex Bowman. I will take Michael McDowell. Let her eat.

Daytona, hey, what do y'all think? No practice. Send it. Send it. I love it. I mean... They're not qualified. Are they qualified?

Yeah, I think so. They're qualified. Straight off the truck, go qualify. Yeah, they're not using... the matrix, the matrix, metrics, whatever. I'm here for it. What else we got? Scale of one to ten.

Scale of one to ten, how wild is this race going to be? I hope it's 15. I think it's wild because stage points matter. Man, the race in obviously matters. There's a lot of people vying for a lot of things right here. There's not many guys who can just go out there and say this race don't matter to me. Chase Elliott. He can say that.

He's about the only one. Yeah. Everybody will ruin the party. Everybody else's got a lot to come. going on. So I'm here for it. Busy week. Hit Daytona, hit the Outshipub. I got a lot of racing coming up, man. I got to go testing all week this week. Oh, no. Me too. I got to go. Testing. You spot for Dale next week? Oh, yeah. I got a spot for Huffman. I don't know. I don't know if he's announced that yet. Which one of us is doing? I think he did.

Which one of us doing the street stock? I don't know. Well, you can do one night. I'll do one night. All right. That's fine with me. Hi, Rodd-Rex. I'll do Wednesday. Flores is running. Yeah. High Rock is sponsoring Landon Huffman, so I'm going to spot for Landon. Well, Dale obviously outbid me, I think. They're a lot prettier, though. Landon called me. He's like, hey, you know, I got this deal with Dale. He wants to sponsor the car. I tell him to screw up. I was like, yes, please take my face off your car. I'm begging you to take my face off your car.

What do you think Land is getting it? Boat, free face of vodka. I just hope he's paying me in vodka when we get up there. so that'll be fine. Say hey if you see us in Daytona. Yes. Maybe we'll go. Where are you working at? Live, Grandview.

Jesus. Lollipop. You're going to be a lollipops. Just kidding. Nobody goes to lollipop. Have you been actually? When was the last time you stepped foot lollipops? Multiple times.

Would you go again? Has anybody been to lollipops in the last five years? I mean, is it sanitary enough? No. No, it's not. I used to go during like bike week days. that's with Super Cross. So now shoe shows have to be sanitary or we can't go.

Well, you're crossing a lot off the list. We can't go to any. You go to Ruth Chris. Yeah. So one of our fellow spotters, who we won't name, was at the strip club in the middle of the day here,

Moore's World North Carolina. The one on the street? It's called scores. Yeah. No, it's not. So one of the other spotters, girlfriend, wife called, or whatever, So where are you guys at?

And they're like, uh, they face timed in. I was, I was not the girlfriend or wife involved here. I was just along for the ride. I hope you weren't the girlfriend or the wife. Yeah. And they're like,

where are you at? I'm in the, they FaceTime and the guy hands me his phone. He had not said hello yet. And it's just his girlfriend. And she's like, hey, what's going on? Where are you at?

I have nothing but neon lights behind me. And she's like, are you at, are you at scores? It's like literally like three or four o'clock in the afternoon. And I'm like, uh, and one of the other spotters.

from the other side of the bar goes, we're in Ruth Chris. And I'm like, yeah, the one in Moresville. So if you wonder what spotters do all week. There's your answer. There's your answer. I'm going to guess the original call was the Doug's phone. And that's probably,

I can't confirm or deny it. We love you guys. We're not incriminating anybody else on here, Brandon at Reynolds. We love you. Have a safe week, everybody. See you guys. So you guys stay on a way out.

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