Door Bumper Clear - 267 - Darlington II & Tyler Reddick: Send It!

Episode Date: September 6, 2022

The NASCAR Cup Series playoffs are underway after race weekend at Darlington Raceway and TJ Majors, Freddie Kraft and championship contender Tyler Reddick react to it all. Reddick discusses his third-place effort in the Southern 500 and how the last restart unfolded when he had a shot at victory. Rain again played a factor in both races and the guys share the differences in how each caution for precipitation was handled.Freddie's Truck Series driver Derek Kraus turned 21 last week and Freddie recaps their night on the town. Find out why Kraus is a leading candidate for 'what an idiot.' TJ reunited with Dale Jr. to spot his late model race at North Wilkesboro last week. Hear how the race went and the crew's impressions of the facility. Plus, hear what crazy rumors might be flying around about the track's future.To start Spot On, Spot Off, the gang reacts to the Xfinity Series finish at Darlington between Kyle Larson and Sheldon Creed. They share their thoughts on the battle, why each was racing so hard, and what they could have done differently to prevent Noah Gragson's last lap pass to victory.Kevin Harvick's car caught on fire late in Sunday's race and he shared fiery comments about the Next Gen car after the incident. Hear what he said about the safety and parts on the car, and whether the guys agree. Plus, they offer thoughts on fixing the fire problem in the new cars.Denny Hamlin nearly caught Erik Jones to battle for the victory at Darlington but didn't try any video game-type moves to win the race. Find out what the crew thought about that decision and hear what Reddick says is the only way to move someone in the Next Gen car.Harvick and Kyle Busch were very outspoken about the Next Gen car's safety after drivers suffered hard hits at Daytona. The gang reacts to the driver comments and NASCAR saying drivers are wrecking at different angles and going faster than ever before, causing the stiffer impacts.Busch admitted last week that his persona may have made it harder to attract a new sponsor. The guys discuss the sports sponsorship climate and ponder what this means for Busch's next move, and how soon until the world may know where he's headed next.Thank you to our presenting sponsor Offerpad and partners Xfinity and RacingUSA.com for making this show possible. Want more DBC? Check out and subscribe to the new DBC YouTube channel! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Yo, what's up? Welcome to Door Bumper Clear presented by Offerpad. I'm Freddie Craft, and we made it back from Darlington, thankfully. We're joined by third place finisher Tyler Reddick on the show today. We'll cover Kevin Harvick's car catching on fire, the Wild Exfinity Series race finish, drivers being outspoken about hard hits, Kyle Bush's trouble finding a sponsor, and much, much more. Jason, let's roll. Everybody's listening, but I don't care. I'm on an episode of Door Bumper Clear. Hey everybody, I'm TJ Majors. Spotted to the Sixth Cup car. I had the 68 Xfinity car this weekend, and that was it. That 68 Xfinity car costs us from getting halfway in that race. I don't know it would have mattered, but you...

I got to the car. Yeah, you were gone long before we were. What's up, Freddie Craft, Spotted for Bubba Wallace, and Landing Castle this week. What's up, Casey? Hey, guys, Casey Boat here. Your marketing professional. And, of course, we have producer Jason Schultz. I finished third at Darlington on Sunday,

so that was a really good run for me. And also with us today, fresh off of his first ever playoff appearance, according to NASCAR Twitter, it's Tyler Redick. Really? You didn't see that? I mean, the last year was really quiet.

It was in and out. Did you see that? They tweeted a picture of like everybody making their first playoff appearance. No, I missed that. And let's see, front and center. Yeah, the picture is my man, Tyler Reddick.

What an accomplishment? Well, that's, That's cool. Yeah, I mean, I... Interns. I learned a lot from last year, so I mean, in some ways I wanted to forget it, but some really important lessons. It's not the first time the interns have screwed up the NASCAR social media page.

But what's up, buddy? How'd your race go? Well, it went okay. I guess I should have introduced myself. I'm retired as a spotter. I really don't do that anymore. I used to do it on part-time basis, but... You're done now?

Yeah, so I don't know why I got brought out. on, but well, we figured, I guess I hold the wheel. We had to have somebody. Sometimes I know Derek what to do. We usually have an idiot sitting in that chair, so I just figured we get a more talented idiot to come in today. Well, I certainly, you have to be an idiot to feed. So I'll fit right in.

I'll tell you what I noticed about your race card. It seemed like on Sunday, and it seemed like got better actually, but you would haul ass the first part of a run and then kind of back up a little bit. But, but like you'd gain, I don't know, five, six spots on the first half of the run and then kind of give maybe one or two back. But when, like, the beginning of the run, man, I'm like, I'm like, damn, this is a-tallin ass again. Like, and then hopefully he comes back to us. But it seemed like you could take off.

And then later on in the race, it seemed like it kind of stayed. But there's obviously shorter runs also. We were the complete opposite. Same way. I was going to say, Brad was the opposite. Brad was good on the long run. Well, you may miss some of the restarts because you were going by me so fast. But so, like, whatever reason, I was pretty tight.

And for whatever reason, I just couldn't go on a restart. It was, it was very normal to lose three or four spots, no matter what. if I took the top I'd lose you know I'd instead of just taking one to give up one road to go to the top I was so bad I'd give up two rows to go to the top and then that time I'd do that there'd be a stack up and I'd still lose four spots so yeah I would go backwards four or five then I'd pass them back and then if we went long in the first half of the race it was like 30 laps in I'd go from being tight the rear tires are gone and I would drop like a rock like we almost blew or I retire it was pretty crazy it was wild yeah your ace tj I noticed you guys were real good like the second. We all ran about 40 laps, I would say, right? 40 laps stands most of the time. We would go longer because we were stupid fast and longer. And then like you would stay out or you would be the last 10, last word of pit stop.

You'd be coming every time. And we'd obviously all get off off sequence again. We tried to one stop and we're actually going to end up okay. I forget which car brought the caution out. Probably your favorite one. At the end there? Yeah, we could run like our, no, I was like

it was one of the first longer runs. Yeah. But we were going to one-stop it and our car was like it just wouldn't fall off as bad like it was actually really good um didn't have the front end speed that we needed to to really be aggressive but um it would it would it would it about 15 laps in it would start we would even out and we started making up ground 30 lapsing in we were ridiculously fast and um and then the very you know anything after that was just a bonus but no we were pretty good it was um one of our better runs there i think we were we were What sucks is, is right before the caution come out,

second or third from the end there, we had just caught the 43, and we were getting ready to pass him, and we pit, and we had a bad pit stop. And sucks. Yeah, so we literally could have been in that position to take advantage of a caution at the right time and be up in the front,

or not a caution, but people breaking and stuff. Yeah. Shout out to them guys. I mean, we talk about it all the time. To win a race, you've got to be in position to win a race. Hang out. It just means if you're in the top, if you're consistently running top five, top seven,

you're going to find yourself in position to win a race eventually. And that was all they did the other night. They were good all night. They ran in that top 10 easily, top five most of the time. And then here they are. I have a great pit stop. Connaut, Pits second after Martin blows up. Come out of the pit second.

And there goes Kyle. He blows up. And now you're leading the race and you check out and win the race. Awesome to see the 43 back in Victory Lane. All my buddies over there, did a really good job. First win for GMS. I think that kind of gets lost in the fold a little bit.

it's technically GMS team. You know, they just kind of use Richard's name over there. But also for them guys, Dave Allen's Eric, been super fast all year long, shown consistent speed, I should say. My buddies over there, Joey, Rick James, Ian, all the guys. Rick James. Put your shoes out of his couch. But yeah, I had a bunch of buddies over there still.

And it's awesome to see them guys win. Xfinity Race, wild finish. I think we'll talk about that and spot on, spot off. but last restart, there you are in the front row. Oh, my gosh. Do anything different? It was, well, first off, I wanted to definitely, you know, mention, you know, big congrats to Eric and Dave, all petty GMS.

That's a big deal. Knowing them guys, you think they've been to bed yet by any chance? I mean, finally. I've done that a time or two with Dave. I'm sure. The sun comes up. It's a good time. Yeah, I know that they definitely had a blast,

and I was really happy for them. but yeah it you know it's actually weird well it's not weird but it was that last caution coming when it did and how everything worked out to where I was restarting second or second you know I was going to have the second choice it was all deja vu from the spring race kind of went the same way we were running second or something like that and lose spot on pit road or we were we we I don't know what it was we came out second both times off pit road and yeah I was like I was like I was like like, well, I took fourth. You know, I decided to start behind Joey in the spring,

and that didn't work out because William and him got together, and I got all messed up, and they broke away, and I ended up third. So I was like, okay, I'm going to try and take the front row this time. And, yeah, I didn't get a good launch. There goes Denny and Eric flying by me, and I'm in third again. And it, from my seat, other than, you know, Joey wrecking William, it pretty much played out identically in front of me. Eric kind of ran his line that William ran in the spring.

and I ran around Denny enough and Joey enough in the spring both that they kind of were running the line that only worked for me in turn once. I was just kind of stuck. Stuck, yeah. It was the worst feeling in the world. Both times I've been there this year. Pretty much played out almost the exact same way. Poor Dave, I've seen his, uh, they heard they toilet papered his house pretty good.

I didn't see that. I had a couple of other guys, Espinosa. They showed me a picture yesterday and it was a mess. It was pretty bad. And then it rained all it didn't. I've never, um, how do you like, thankfully? clean that up. Oh,

you're in trouble for rains. Yeah, you're pretty much done for her. Yeah, it's, you just leave it? You know,

you know what toilet paper does, right? Dissolves, so you got to pull it off the tree, like the tree, it's stuck on the tree, it's stuck in the grass.

So, I mean, at that point, just leave it, right? Yeah, you might as well. Oh,

the only decoration. Yeah. It started a little early. Yeah. Yeah. Now, I know you guys have been critical about how NASCAR has handled

rain in the area, and we had that issue. this weekend. What did you guys think of the protocol and NASCAR went in place, how they handled it? I mean, it was like a drop hit now and it's like,

whoa, well, that was on Saturday. Sunday, it was different. Sunday, you know, Sunday,

I was like, it's raining down the backstress. It's raining in the front stretch. Then there was that big cell. You could see it in the car, but it was right behind one and two. And I'm, every spotter on the spotter stand is flipping out,

waving their hands at Fort Saco and everybody. No, no, no. See, we were, I was pretty far back. So, I was like, I'm like, oh, I was awesome.

I'm like, Brad, just keep going. If I see anybody slip, we get time to slow down. Just keep going. Yeah, you're open half. Field's going to wreck again, right? I would get a head start. I was getting close. Poor Sacco is getting screamed out up there.

And we're just like, what the, are you going to do this again? I saw him about it. And they just did it on Saturday. Like the first time somebody said the word raindrop, yellow, put it out. Like, it hadn't really rained yet, but, hey, listen, I'm good with that versus, you know, what they're talking about. But, you know, a lot of,

of conversation. I heard a lot of we talked about a little bit last week, but like something that I wanted to talk about was the idea of throwing the caution when it's not raining. And I just don't think you can do it. Like unless you have, which they, they, there was rumors about maybe testing some stuff out this weekend trying to get an idea of how to, you know, if rain's coming or if it's close to the track. Um, but, you know, like unless you have a way that we see the lightning data, like when they say here, they put it on the screen. There's a, here's your circle. There's a lightning strike. this circle we're under a red or whatever 30 minute delay unless they have something where it's like look right here on tv it's raining 100 yards from the racetrack we have to throw the yellow

they can't like they have to be completely transparent with it or not do it because you're just setting yourself up for god knows what if god forbid chase elliott's leading the race and they throw the yellow for rain that's not really raining or bubble wallace or really anybody but you know there's some trigger guys that'll send the fan base off let's bull-boh the race is fixed, you know. So if you're going to do something like that, you have to be 100% transparent with it. You have to be able to show on the damn TV screen. As soon as you go yellow, here's why we went yellow. The rain is right inside this radius and we have to throw yellow. Like a weather station, like a little weather station set up out there outside each corner or whatever. And if it

detects enough moisture. I mean, I thought from the broadcasting point, I thought they did a good job of like definitely on Saturday. Like they planned ahead. They figured out. They made people aware. I wasn't at the track. So I couldn't see. Saturday was. To me, they called it a little early. Yeah, I'd rather be early. I'd rather be Saturday than Sunday, though. Right. When they did, like, call it early on Saturday, I just so happened to be going to the gas station to get, I was getting my beer for some of my dad.

I just said that backwards than I. I was getting some beer for my dad. There we were going. So we left the track and they were still racing. We pulled out and we drove to the gas station and we made it across that like overpass. Yeah. heading to like downtown Darlington. And as soon as we crossed over that,

it was a quarter mile away. It was pouring so hard. It was a monsoon. You couldn't even see. Yeah. So I was like, oh boy. I mean,

they did the right thing. They did the right thing on Saturday. Sunday was still a little questionable. I thought they waited at least a lap too long, maybe two laps to throw it. But I was there for it. I was, yeah,

that was unsettling. I'm just, I'm just waiting for, you know, and the drops were small. They were, you know, about, you know,

piece size on the windshield. And then they, turned into like golf ball size drops on my windshield. And this is the second lap. I'm at this point I'm yelling at Derek, unfortunately. Like, it's freaking raining on the backstretch. I bet you didn't say freaking. Like, no, I didn't.

I didn't. I was screaming. I can't remember what I said. I don't scream that often. Jason really likes you right now because you're not cursing. By this point in the show, his like, she is half-phing out. Just to bleak freaking out. Might as well.

We should have pulled that up. We should have had that pulled up. It was just. I was telling Bubba. I'm like, I'm like, it's light, it's not bad.

Then it was like, okay, it's picking up. Okay, now it's raining. Okay, it's still raining. And then there was one time

like when they finally threw it, we were off a four. And I'm like, do not bust your ass in one because I think it's raining hard down there, but it was just. At least they're like trying to figure it out

and they're making some progress. I wasn't even looking at my car. I was watching everyone in front of the field. Yeah. You're going to see the first one spin. Yeah. soon as they since we said. Which should not be the case in the first

playoff race of the season. That early in the race either. Yeah, lap seven. What are you trying to do? Get to halfway? I need all I can get in. I think at least what we did

once the rain came out was the right thing. Just stay out there and stayed out. What was being said? I looked down there one time and I saw Brett looked really happy. Him and Sacco? I don't know what happened there. They were hugging by the end of the race.

But I'm sure Sacco had probably reached his boiling point with 30 guys up there screaming at him. And probably saw him. Brett and I'm sure Brett was one of the worst ones. Me and the other end. It's dry. It's dry. Fred,

you were mad at rained on Saturday because that delayed your return trip to Columbia? Yes, I have this on my notes. These are the important things. You had to be like boiling yourself sitting there waiting out. So me and Brett were going to the game and we had it figured out that like that race is one of our favorite races because it's short. Like it's a really good race. I think that X-Fiddy race is like the perfect Xfinity race of the year. It's 147 laps.

the stages aren't real long. You've got the tire strategy coming and going and you got an extra set if you wanted to use it. But like, so we're like, okay, this race is usually about an hour and a half, two hours.

We'll get out of here by five. We'll be down there by six, six, six, 30. And we'll see, you know, all the pregame. The biggest thing, I've never been to a football game down there. So Brett's like, you've got to see the pregame. Like the pregame on the field is amazing.

You know, they pop cocky out of a box to some song and they go nuts. Cocky, that's their, I don't know, I think it's probably changing his name. I don't know. they got a damn mascot down there. But, uh,

so, uh, of course, I'm looking over my shoulder and I'm like, so wait. This thing pops out. I guess. I don't know.

They got them in a bar. I've never seen it. I still haven't seen it. So, the weather. Cucky. I was just what I'm not sure. So is that legitimately like a box?

I don't know. You say that? That might probably. That might have to get cut out. I'm just saying. Brett would say it. So. So,

so of course, I wouldn't, but I look down. Cut that out. and I am. I look down and I'm looking at my radar and I'm like, ooh. And I just look down at Brett and he is steaming mad. That's why I wouldn't answer any of those messages.

Steaming mad. And I'm like, oh boy, he is not happy. And then he just looks at me and he's like, we're, that's all he gets saying. I thought, I had a few people tweet at me and I was like, oh, no, I'm afraid for what Brett has said. Like, please, I'm so sorry to all the fans, whatever Brett has said. We, yeah. We were trying to rent our gigs out.

But no, we made it. We made it for halftime. So that was cool. We didn't see halftime. We got there for the second half kickoff. So that was fun. God, you survived? Any stories?

Oh, yeah. Well, the bad part about it was, like, we were going to meet a bunch friends down there. They got a really cool deal right outside the stadium. They call it the cockaboose. And it's just train cars. They really like the word cockdown. I mean, they're the game cocks.

I didn't make the name up. I can't help it. But they were like trained cars that they got lined up outside the stadium. and they're super nice. They're finished like apartments and bars and stuff. So one of his buddies owns one. So we were going to go hang out there. So then,

well, they were all hanging out all day. So by the time we got there at halftime, everybody's drunk. And like you ever just show up at a party when everybody's drunk and you're sober, you know that's really not a lot of fun. Oh, wait.

I mean, you weren't going to drink while you're there. Well, I was planning on it. But like when we did, obviously, but like we were off schedule from everybody else. So like when we got finally got a buzz,

they were blacked out. So it's just like, it was. We were half a football behind everybody. Yeah, it was just me and Brett. Well, that's half of football and pregame, too. You're way behind. Oh, yeah.

And we asked Billy Moe, who's the guy that owns the train car. And I'm like, what times do you get here today, Billy? He's like, I don't know. The game kicked off at 7.30. I'm like, what times do you get here? He's like, ah, like 11. I was like, okay, all right, full day for you. Oh, Billy, is that your car, what do you call it again?

Cockaboose. We can't. Every time. But yeah, it was fun. And I survived. I told Brett, I said, it's kind of a low-key night because we didn't get too wild because we got down there so late. And I was like, that's probably what I needed in my return to Columbia. So I woke up.

I had all my everything I left with and we were all good. Megan must have been so proud. Megan was proud, I'm sure. Something about going to football, college football games that just are just so inviting. Yeah. Megan's probably really excited. You are all up in that cockaboose thing. Speaking of blocking out, how was Derek Krause's,

21st birthday. He turned 21. Turn 21 on Thursday. And he was my leading candidate for one idiot because he called me on, maybe it was a week before and he's like, hey, I'm coming to Charlotte. I'll be in Charlotte for my birthday. Can you take me out for my 21st birthday? I was like, I mean, I can. I don't know if you really want that to happen. So, uh, he, this could be a thing. He was doing, he called me. I said, what do you want to do? So we went to dinner. It was early. probably about six o'clock. And my 21st birthday, like, I guess I probably didn't drink a lot of beer back then. But like, I guess it was more liquor.

But I kind of assumed him being a kid from Wisconsin, like he's going to drink beer. And I'm like, what do you want to drink? He's like, I want a captain and Coke. And I was like, at 6 o'clock, I was like, oh boy, this is going to be a long day. So we got a couple drinks at dinner. We went to the Kilted Buffalo, which is a cool bar and Langtree over there. And that's where things took a turn for the worst. I had Brandon McReynolds join me to helping my corruption at Derek.

I'm sure there was switch from captain to crowning ginger. No, he stayed on the captain, but the fireball is what kind of The fireball took him over there. But I still say that me and Brandon had him on a decent trajectory of he's going to be drunk, but he's not going to be killed. Like he was, you can tell he was starting to get a little buzzed. Like he went to leave the bar with his drink. His grandfather called him, I guess, for his birthday.

So he's going to leave the bar. bar with his drink and the bouncer's like, hey, hey, you can't leave. And he's like, no, no, I'm talking to my grandfather. He's like, okay, well, you just can't leave with your drink. He's like, no, it's okay. I'm talking to my grandfather. They're like, no, put your fucking drink down. Like, so he's like, okay, whatever. Then he puts you answer at that point. He puts his drink, oh, he should not have answered. No. He puts his drink down in front of like some random person sitting at those tables outside of Kilton. And the guy's like, what, what is this? Get this away from me. He's like, why are you touching my drink? And then I'm like, here we go.

Now he's going to get me to a fight. It's like, I get on my brother. So then. So then, whatever, you get him back inside and he's still pretty good. Maybe he had two shots by this point. It's probably like 9, 10 o'clock. And next thing I know, he had a couple buddies with him. And one of his buddies comes over with a tray full of fireball shots and just one after another, hands him to Derek. And he might have done a couple of these within a small period of time.

And I was like, we're in trouble. I said, we were, the train is coming off the tracks. And his night ended. he might have blown a motor in the Saeed's parking lot. So I mean, if traditions if you're going to have a 21st birthday,

you're almost entitled to puke in Saeed's parking lot. Yeah, it almost has to end at Saeed's. Yeah, oh yeah. There was two options where it was going to end and Megan was with me, so Saeeds was the only option, really.

She didn't want to go to the shoe show? She didn't want to swing by a score sports bar. She didn't want to go to the Ruth Chris. That's weird. I thought she was cool like that. She's been. I can tell you she's been. I don't think she's ever enjoyed it,

but she's been a couple times. All right. Well, before we had to spot on spot off, TJ, what? What was it like, what was it like spotting for Dale at the Wilkesbury? Oh, okay. Yeah.

We can talk about that. Oh, it was awesome. Yeah, we, uh, North Wilkesboro was ridiculously awesome. Like, there was a lot of people there on Wednesday. Okay, so I went up Tuesday and did practice and they changed their schedule when it rains more than anybody that I've ever seen.

We're going to get a 15 minute practice here. And then we're going to follow that up with a street stock qualifying session. Then we're going to get a 10 minute practice. And then, you know, after that, we're going to give you seven minutes. It's like there was a lot going on with that. But so where we were spotting from was in turn two and there was a little wooden stand there. Clearly not big enough to be a spot. There's 35 cars there and that fits six people.

Yeah. It was not good. And then there's the walkway right next to it down. And then there's like, what, maybe? 20 feet, 30 feet. I don't think it's that much. Probably 20 feet. And then the bleachers just end because they were pulling them down.

I mean, they just end. There's no railing. You just, you fall off the edge. So they got this like orange snow fence. Snow fence up. And so you can't go over there. All good.

Well, that's fine for Tuesday. We get to Wednesday and halfway through the race and I look down. There's this dude ripping that fence down and he moves it over to the edge. And I look down and this place is packed. Like, ridiculously packed. Like, not a seat to be at. No. Yeah, it was, it was really full. Oh my gosh.

And then so we fell back. We qualified six, fell back to like ninth and we were just saving tires. You could see people who were driving turn one. He wasn't and I kind of was hoping it was going to turn out pretty good. Well, at the end, we're the fast car on the track. And he goes, starts passing, gets to like back up to six. And he's fifth. And by the time he gets to fifth, the crowd's ramping up.

Like, it's starting to get. then it gets to, oh my gosh, I thought the bleachers were going to come down. Like, I was nervous. Like, it was ridiculous. The atmosphere there was incredible. Like just to see that many people, the, all the people work in the gates they had, the concessions, these little food trucks they had there, just where everything was exactly how I would hope it would have been for that race.

And it was, uh, the racetrack was phenomenal. I know it's run down a little bit. It spots and it should be. It's set for so long. but the track itself raced phenomenal. Like there is, we, we could put on a heck of a race there.

Yeah. The, the track is in really good shape. I don't know. I heard they're maybe holding off on the decision to tear it up. I don't know if that's true or not. I heard rumors about it. But,

you know, they got to work on obviously some of the, some of the infrastructure around there. Yeah, for sure. Some of the real, like, traffic was pretty brutal getting there. I heard. I've seen one guy tweet.

that he lives 10 minutes away and it took him like two and a half hours. But I mean, that's what you're going to have. Like, it was, it was just, you're going to go to a big event. Yeah.

And they did the great, I thought they did a great job. They kind of pushed the start back a little bit, trying to have let as many people get there as possible. Um, so that was cool. I, you know,

I don't know. I hear some, some crazy rumors about that place. I think. Please share. What, what, uh,

I was just about to ask, do you think it's back for good? Uh, yeah. Yeah, I think I heard, it should be. I heard rumors.

I'm all for it. I heard rumors Tyler's going to be racing there, if not next year of the year. Oh, I like it. This place is amazing. I'm not telling you what he's driving. Not next year. Why?

Well. Next year he might be why. I don't know. Coffee was hot. Extra hot Starbucks over here. No, I think the place is amazing, though. The track. I would race.

I mean, it was way more banked than I thought it was. Like watching races from back in the day there. Like I was like, this got way more. I thought it was like super flat for the first time. Everyone knows the first thing you think of is the wreck in a turn three. And I looked over there.

I'm like, so this is where that wreck happened. You know, and I'm like, this place is really small. Like you see it on TV, everything looks so much bigger. Then you get there,

you're like, man, this is where they raced. But it was, uh, they put on a great race, man. And it,

it's awesome to, go to somewhere and actually see a guy ride around, you know, not just ride around like the modifies did there, but like actually try to maintain it, save his stuff a little bit and it pay off in the end. Like we, we were a 10th faster than the leader and probably three tens faster than everybody else.

The kid that took off in the beginning. Oh, that 81 or whatever was. He got lapped. Yeah. Like half with the race. I thought, I thought you went back a little. I think,

I didn't think you intended to go back as far as you did, but it was like you were riding and then you kind of got stuck behind some, my 14 car. I was screaming about that 14 the whole race. I'm like, Dale, get rid of this guy. Yeah,

I was, but, I knew it would pay off. Yeah, we probably got back a little bit further. And I thought, I was thinking maybe we'd get back to like fifth or six or something, but man,

at the end, and I'm like, we got to third and the leaders had a pretty good gap. We weren't going to make that up. And I told him, like, just say, look,

man, you're just save your tires now in case we get a green white checker and here. Poor Carson Quaple wins the biggest raise of his life probably and nobody has any idea about it because they only talked about it. because they only talked about Dale. I know. The poor kid went over there and did a really cool Polish victory lab. He went to turn to, turned around, and he's, everybody, hey, congratulations.

And then Dale just turns around as the same exact thing. And again, I thought the bleachers were coming down. The place erupted. But at least he got loud cheers when he won. You know what? I would deal with the traffic and stuff like that for to go to an event like that. You just, there's certain things you're going to have to do it. There's no way you're going to go to an event like that and not have some sort of

traffic or anything like that. You just got to know that that's part of it. Do you stay up there? No, I came back after. I heard they ran pretty hard that night. Yeah, he called me to hear about that. Huffman and Boogarlyle and a couple of those guys. He called me.

He called me the next day and it was on lunchtime and I could tell he was wounded. Well, he's seen he had to go to like, I don't know, like kindergarten orientation or preschool or something the next morning. I'm like, oh, I bet he's loving that right now. He called him. He called him. He was like, hey, what do you go to do it? He was like,

But on the point of that track, I mean, we don't have a lot of places like that anymore where everywhere we go, it's like drive at 110% every single lot. 110% every single lab, man. And that is one of the few tracks of that size with the infrastructure already there with a little bit of work, you know, that you could take NASCAR racing there pretty easily. And with the service that it has, you have to, you have to. I mean, the track was great. your tires.

You kind of have to have that in back your mind. We don't really have a lot of tracks like that anymore. Yeah. I don't, you know, there's, I don't remember hearing a bad thing about it. Not one thing.

You know, a guy got sucking traffic. Well, okay, guess what? It was a great event. There's also 20 plus thousand people there. Yeah.

If you go to a bus concert, you're going to get stuck in traffic. Yeah. Everywhere you go. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Hang on. I got to give a shout out to somebody from North Willicksburgs.

So I see this kid. spot in a limited race and this kid comes over and he's like hey give me a shout on your podcast no fire suit no nothing I just thought he was a random fan so I'm like oh what's up all right I'm like well who are you he's like my name is Michael bumgartner and I'm like or bumgarner and I'm like all right I said I'll think about it I was I was I had zero intention to giving this kid a shout out on the podcast so limited race ends I'm not I just we finished 10th or something I don't my timing it's going wasn't working because there's so many fans there and I'm like whatever I'm going the infield, I'm getting my bag, and I'm leaving.

As I'm leaving, the kid's getting out of this. Kid wins the race. He's getting out of his car. And they're like, and it's Michael Bumgarner with the win. And I'm like, no kid. Okay, well, here you go. Michael, here's your shout out. Congrats.

I went in the limited race at North Wilkesboro this week. So you did three race. Did you do two races? I did two. I didn't do the car's race. I just did. Limited and Flores and the street stock. Yeah.

So, yeah, what happened after that race? I heard there was, I heard there was. I heard there was, I didn't go down there for that. So we got dumped on the last lap. I heard you chopped him. Nah, no chance. I know. And we got turned around there.

And the best part was, I thought we, because the street stock race was before the limited race, so I stayed up there. They put you back in the position. They put us back to third and put that guy to the rear because they were coming to the checker. And I was like, oh, if that guy wasn't mad already, now he's real mad. Yeah. So that was fun. He came down there and wasn't happy, right?

Ryan's the guy wanted to fight Ryan. And Ryan's like, it's a street stock race, man. I don't know what you want me to tell you. Like, sorry you ran through the back of my car. I can literally see him saying it just like that too. I can't do. All right, let's hear a little bit more about our presenting sponsor, Offerpad. Freddie, have you been thinking about selling your home and making a move?

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Spot on means you agree. I'm spot on. Are you joking me? He's lost his mind. Oh, and by the way, No one ever seems to agree. And then spot off means you disagree. Spot off. Here we fucking go. This is the dumbest thing I've ever heard. But if you're T.J.

Um, uh, uh, there's only one correct answer. I don't know. It's time for spot on, spot off. All right, first topic. Sheldon Creed and Kyle Larson's battle to win the Xfinity series. race cost them both the victory and Noah Gregson wins from P3 on the final lap. Spot on, spot off, Tyler. I think you could look at this one a few different ways.

Well, yeah, there's three of them. Well, I mean, look, I guess let me start with the Sheldon Creed, Kyle Larson Battle. So, like, me and Andy Petrie had a pretty spirited discussion about this on Sunday. This is an interesting one. I don't believe, I don't think Kyle's, is Kyle won there in Exfini car? I don't think he's ever won there now. I don't think he has either. So that was part of, what it matter, he's going for the win.

I know, so that was kind of part of my argument. But then the other side of it is Sheldon Creed needing a win, playoffs, playoffs, all this stuff going on. You know, Hendrick, RCR, track house. We all work together. We do a lot of stuff together. So, you know, I think it was pretty interesting to get Andy's side of it and hear his perspective, you know, like feeling like Kyle should have been a little bit more, I don't know, given a little bit more on a break or a little bit more. A little more forgiving. But I feel like Kyle was. That was my side of it is I feel like Kyle, Kyle was.

He was trying to do that. Well, yeah, they, at Watkins Glen, they kind of got after it with one another. Sheldon and Kyle did actually, I think in the exfiny race. Yeah, well, yeah, and the cup race, I mean, Kyle got after. for a win, but that was against Chase. That's different. It's for a win. Meaning not, he's not competing for a championship in the next thing. I don't know. I guess where I was going with this, sorry.

You're good. You see the company side and then you see the racer side. I guess what I should have started with, sorry, it's like I don't listen and don't know what I'm doing. I should say spot on because that was one of the craziest finishes I've seen in a very long time. Just how that whole whole thing unfolded. Kyle had to work really, really hard

to get around AJ, run them down. And it was just a great battle between the three of them. hard to get back in the race. He cut a tire or something early and was lapsed down. Oh yeah. And I was like,

I'm like, if that 17 gets there, he's winning the race. It didn't even matter that is right where the border panel is completely knocked off, knocked in two inches. Like, oh,

he's just, his right rear's going to get closer to the wall now. He's going to go faster. But, you know, like the same thing. I can see why people would be upset with Kyle for racing as hard as he did.

I don't think, I think Sheldon set the bar. We've seen this earlier in the year. I think it was Road America or I don't remember where it was. where did Larson and Gibbs battle for the win. Was that Road to America? Yeah. So, you know, Ty really didn't rough Kyle up. So when Kyle got the opportunity, like he got back around him, he had an opportunity to rough him up. He's like, well, I'm not, he didn't do anything to me, so I'm not going to do anything to him.

But when he caught Sheldon, Sheldon was not going down without a fight. You know, you got to the outside. Sheldon kind of, you can't. This is not, not blaming Sheldon at all, but, you know, Sheldon was aggressively trying to block and then do whatever he had to do to win. So when Kyle sees that, it's like, all right, the gloves are off. And now we're going to race. and I don't think that Kyle did anything egregious. He went into one and got loose. Like, he just got loose underneath him and chased it into him. He got loose and that was what I was my point with with Andy was.

He got loose because Sheldon laid it. Sheldon admitted that he laid on his door. In his interview, he admitted he laid on his door on purpose. Yeah. These guys are just racing their asses off. Yeah. It's just tough. If he would have just given him, I feel like another foot maybe, he still would have had,

it still had been the same effect. Kyle can hang on to anything. He would have caught it and not clipped him. Probably would have been a different story. The only thing I would have. learn from this wreck this deal is please stop doing the video game move it's not going to work i know so that was well that's my question because i don't actually know i heard i the video i saw it didn't look flat he's told his guys he felt like it was down getting in a three so he just

went for it um either way i don't have any either you could not i would not be surprised one bit if it was or wasn't down uh and he just did that same move anyway thinking it was going to work but what almost worked for Larson yeah almost like he and that's what i think like and it's different in that type that type of car though but i don't think the tire was out because you can tell what it when they go down so you can see when it went down it was just a shower or sparks and that was like the quarter mark of the corner he sped up before that i think what what the difference was is Kyle like kind of eased it in there and then got on the gas after he was in the quarter shelled it like just said it in there like a video game back of the day and uh

It was wild. I mean, incredible race, incredible finish. Again, we talk about it all the time on here. The Xfinity race outshines the cup race by a million times.

And it's just, I mean, the way you can get to each other in those cars and then, you know, you can use the air to affect the guy in front of you. It's just that those cars put on

in a phenomenal race. It feels like every time we go there. I don't mind somebody being aggressive because I feel like Sheldon's pretty aggressive at times. We go back to the first Atlanta race this year. I'm spotting for Brandon Brown. We're running side by side with Josh buried on the front stretch and Sheldon tries to go three wide through the middle and causes a wreck.

Like that's, how can you blame another guy for racing aggressive if that's how you're going to race? I mean, the guy's trying to win the race. I mean, whether you like it or not, Kyle Larson's not there to collect points. He's there to collect a trophy. And if you're a race car driver,

it's really hard to tell yourself going into that spot. After everything you've overcame that day, you pass this car, you're getting victory. This is the last guy. and how do you be like, no, I'm going to let him. Yeah, I'm not going to say it. And I don't, I don't think he did anything.

But look at his record though. Like, this is Kyle Larson, right? Like, he doesn't move anybody ever on purpose. And he let, yeah, and he led, um, look, go back to Road America. I mean, he's honestly a very clean racer. He's very clean driver. He's really, yeah, fans would disagree with you. Well, I mean, yeah.

One time. I mean, so. But I don't ever. I want to see two guys going for it. And I enjoyed watching Sheldon try to hold him off. And I enjoyed those guys going in there and racing. I mean, that was one of the best races I've seen there. Kevin Harvick's comments after his car catches on fire and ends his day.

Jason, you'll read that? Kevin Harvick said, we just keep letting cars burn up, letting people crash into stuff, get hurt, and we don't fix anything. Now we're just riding around and cars catch on fire. Just parts. They don't care. It's cheaper to not fix it. Find someone to run the show who can run it.

spot on, spot off, Freddie. So first of all, was the committee on a coffee break when Kevin's stuff went up and flames down and turned one? I want nothing to do with any of your comments. Look to me, I mean, the guy's getting out of the car. And like, I don't know if the TV and the yellow flag are exactly synced up like they are most of the time. But like, you're watching that video and Kevin is literally halfway out the window

before the thing turns to yellow. And it's like, what, what were you doing? I understand. Like, this is where we come in with that. It's a caution or it's not a caution because we know what the delay was. We're in the middle of a pit cycle. And they don't want to, they don't want that to be that, you know, race altering.

But it's a caution. The guy's car is on fire. He's getting out. Like, are you going to just stay green with Kevin Harvick walking around in the apron and turn one. But, you know, that was the one part that it was like. It's a local yellow. It's just a local yellow.

I mean, do you, I wonder from from up there in the stand, it's so flat and so. you know, there's all this stuff in the infield. Did they maybe think that he was crawling to the back? He went by us on fire for sure. Yeah, when he went on fire. I saw it in turn, I saw it in the middle of three and four. And I told Brad, I thought he was blowing up first of all.

I said, Brad, I got one blowing up on the front stretch. You were probably right when you were me because we were right behind Kevin. Yeah, I saw it. Yeah, I guess either way, they don't have like a line of fire trucks on the back straight away. Yeah. And, I mean, you're looking at, he's on the apron. We're in the middle of a pit cycle. So now guys are going to be bowling by him on the apron coming back on the racetrack.

it just wasn't a good look and it just entirely too long to throw the yellow especially with a guy in danger on fire but as far as his comments listen I thought one of the more telling things Kevin's always fiery you know you know where Kevin stands on everything he's going to give you his opinion quite literally but Rodney

Rodney got fired up and I think he deleted it since then but he sent out a tweet like essentially just like you know I forget exactly what it said but it's like sure let's just have this opening and let's catch all the rubber we possibly can and let it get into the rocker and then get hot as possible and burn my car. You know, like he got fired up and that's telling because Rodney really, I feel like he's

way more reserved a lot. And I don't know what this is. Like maybe you know about it more than me. It seems like some kind of design flaw with the Ford's because it only happens to the Fords. Like we saw it with Busher, we saw Abrisco, we saw now with Kevin. Like I think there's been four or five guys that just literally their rocker panels caught you on fire and then they're out of the race.

So I don't know, I don't know where the flaw is, but if you read Rodney's comments and you read some of the way these guys are talking about it. It's like they know what they need. Well, it wasn't, Busher didn't run enough laps. Busher got caoed by your guy and turned on. Oh, I know, but still, but I'm just saying. But the fact that it happened. They've caught the car on fire.

You know what we want to talk about your torpedo move and the one there to be in. Rodney also, I think he did like a video on Instagram. Yeah, like it seems to me like they know what they need to do to fix it, but they're not allowed because of the modification. You know, you got limits on what you can modify. You can only run with you, yeah. So it's, it's, it's, they know what the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, I I assume that's the frustrating part for them.

It's like they know what they need to do to fix it, but they're not allowed to. Yeah. There were very interesting comments, for sure. Denny Hamlin gets close but doesn't make contact battling for the win on the final lap with Eric Jones. T.J. Spot on spot on. The last thing Denny needs is to go in there and knock a guy out of the way.

He's just quietly doing what he needs to do to set up for a long playoff run. Like, you don't, the last thing you want to do is go in there and mess with guy that has nothing to lose the rest of the season but go for wins and when you're when you're in that moment and you can't afford a bad race and he's having a bad day and he sees you and decides to make your day way worse because he can really end it right there it's not worth it so smart move by denny yeah i mean smart move on him's part but he would you say if it wasn't it's not that it's not that he didn't try because he got in there pretty hot in the last corner but he could he would have it would have had to have been deeper and harder than like he would have had to be it would have been ugly if he

if he got to the only way you can move somebody it unfortunately with this car is basically what joey did to william yeah you have to drive in that hard and tell yourself if i don't hit william i'm going to hit this wall so hard like you have to go in there almost kind of like you would in a video game when you're trying to knock people out of the way it's just kamikaze you just got to drive it in there and if you don't hit their bumper you're killing the wall speaking i didn't see it on the rest of the show but Did you see the three, four wide move in turn one and two there? Did I see it?

Somebody was on the outside of it. Yeah. That was then, yeah, wait, wait. Off turn four. Yeah, turn four. I'm talking about turn two. Oh, I didn't see that. 99.

It was 99 and, um, the 20 got together over there. Oh, yeah, yeah. That was right in front of us. And then Joey shot to the bottom, uh, yeah, I lifted. So I was, I thought though, and I, I saw the 20, the 22 go to the bottom. And then he kind of comes up and hits the, 20 in the door a little bit. I thought that was roles for like destroying the guy's car.

Yeah. It was the first race. Wasn't that like this? That's almost the exact same thing. Was that not bullying? I mean, this. Bubba did the same thing, but like Bubba's aren't checking up. I'm like, no, no, no, keep going. They saved it. So I don't know how, but they saved it.

It's funny how when the shoe's on the other foot, it's like, okay. Oh, yeah, we're just racing. It's playoffs now. Three wide, though. I see you get squeezing the fence off of four. Oh, yeah. I saw that. Poor Austin.

I didn't know that he got squeezed too. When I got back to him later on, I pretty much did the exact same thing back to him and stuffed him in the fence off too. He came up to me after the race. He's like, hey, I just want you to know that I got shoved up too. I'm like, oh, man, okay, sorry. I'm glad I didn't ruin your race because I was pretty mad. I got to be honest, so we had our pre-race meeting in the hauler, and obviously Bubba and tire

in there. And I think Bubba told him how to use that maneuver where you just go three wide and see what happens because it's what it looked like. Bubbo was telling him early in the race because he got to he was starting in the back or 21st. Somebody will lift won't be you. And he's like he's like just plug the bottom. It'll work in the beginning because everybody will be stacking up up top. And then that way, that way, I said, oh boy, he's taking that advice now.

It's a little late for that. He just, I'm like, we're right behind you again. I'm like, oh, they reckon. One of ties moves that at Darlington was, and his car turned really good down there was to run the bottom through one and two. And he would just make it, he would catch people surprise them. and the guys up there, oh, you're clear by three, clear by two,

inside inside and the guys are like, whoa, I'm just gonna lift and there he goes. So if you took it away early, you don't have to lift though. You don't have, but I think it catches them off guard. Oh yeah,

no, you can, it, well, and if it's a longer run, you're spread out, there's nothing behind you. You're like,

oh, just go ahead, you know, but we ran off, we ran two by two off of two one time late. What might be like the second or last resort. It's tough, man.

Oh, boy. We were on the top, and I'm like, oh, And this was a late restart, maybe the second and last restart. It was after that caution, right? With the pit cycle? I think it was like.

Harvick or where? No, where was the last one? So yeah, I think it was Harvix still. And I'm like, I was that was, I had a close call with him. I had a close call with Denny. Off of two, actually on the last restart.

I mean, what are you doing? I was going to say that was. Sign that deal and wreck us all. Yeah. You got to teach him the ways. Don't touch Denny. Don't say you imagine. Yeah, Freddie, what are your roles here with Denny?

Could you imagine that race? Like, they, he might not know what it used to be like at Darlington, you know, seven, eight, whatever years ago, whenever, if you went off turn two side by side, it was over. Yeah. Like, one of you weren't coming back. And like, it used to be so sketchy over there. Now you got guys running the wall over there.

You're like, what is he going to make the exit? Remember, Ricky did it like lap one, the COVID year, didn't he? Like, well, he ran the bottom. Yeah. No, I mean, he, what I said that. I think he was right in front of me. That was like my first cup race of darling. I'm like, okay, this is this.

That this place is going to be. Might have been one of the most bonehead moves that I've ever seen my entire life, simply because it didn't work out at all and he wrecked bad. So, yeah, that was not good. Hey, great thought process. So like, hey, if I go out, if it sticks,

send it. Send it. Yeah, uh, 12 tires stick better than four, right? 12. I think that would have been more like 16 tires. Tyler, this one is for you. After hard hits at the tone, NASCAR says drivers are feeling the wrecks more because they are wrecking at higher speeds and different angles than they have in the past.

You want to take a bathroom break? Kyle Busch and Kevin Harvick respond by saying this. Kyle Busch said, I don't believe that. No way. Kevin Harvick said they are blunt, violent wrecks every time you hit something. Every time you hit a car, it feels like hitting a concrete wall. Every time you hit a soft wall, it feels like hitting a concrete wall. Andy said money is more important than safety of the car.

that's the perception. Did you go to a rave last night or something? What the hell are you doing? Big rave guy. Like you can't even, like your voice sounds like you swallowed a frog. Like I don't know. So instead of commenting on NASCAR's comments,

because we don't want to get you invited to the hauler with the rest of us. No, I'm not. Do you know, you took some hits? Like, do you notice a difference? It is surprise.

You know, it's been a process for me getting used to this car and what's going on with it. Yeah, you lied about it at the beginning. I couldn't drive this car. I can't hang on. I couldn't hang on to it for a while. At the Charlotte test, you were convinced you were not going to be a race car driver anymore. He's got it down Pat so good now.

He ran around Martinsville backwards. I'm not even going to hire than everybody else's. Yeah, we saw that too. Well, I'm not even going to lie. Doing that in Martinsville prep me for driving backwards out of the crash in the rain at Daytona. I don't know if you guys saw that. Like, I did. Banking backwards and drove backwards to the grass.

there's cars crashing in front me. I'm driving backwards, looking at the camera. I don't reverse all the back straight away, and it works. I didn't get stuck in the grass. I didn't get stuck in the grass. It's true valuable.

But I don't know. I guess we don't want to get you in trouble. Kind of in a mix on this because that's pretty aggressive, you know, comments by Kevin and Kyle. So I don't know where, I don't know if I should spot this on or spot it off, but certainly I think what they're saying about the car

and some of the details about it, from my experience, the little impacts seem more sharp. You know, it just seems like this car is stiffer, and you would just bend more stuff. You know, we had track bars and truck arms and just, you know, things would crumble. Things would crumble a lot more with the old car. And this car, certainly, it does surprise you.

The smaller impact seemed like they're more. But I've hit some things really hard in the truck, and Xfinity car and the old cup car. And, you know, I haven't had, you know, I remember those hits, they were huge. And I don't know, I haven't really wrecked this car super hard yet, knock on wood. But, you know, I haven't had any, like,

really big impacts that were just, you know, really caught me off guard or anything. So, but certainly, like Darlington, last lap going in turn three, I, for whatever reason, I was like, I got to send it in here in case something happens. I lock my left front tire up, smoke it, smoke it, go slam it into the wall. And I hit the wall so hard.

I thought I wasn't even going to come back to the line. Like it was pretty surprising. So what? I know you have driver group chat, tons of conversations with the drivers and the driver council. What are you hearing or hoping that drivers will have NASCAR do to improve these, make them safer, less hard of a hit? What's the conversation been like?

Well, it's a balancing act, I think. This is just my opinion because there's a lot of things that this car has been a lot better for and I you know I haven't been doing this as long as some of you guys have but you know the crashes that have in my opinion almost kill people taking their lives are the the ones where intrusion really comes into play when the cars come off the ground the roll cage has been crushing like Newman's crash like Joey's crash at Talladega so for me looking at that I felt you know again this is my opinion they didn't ask me how they when they when they did this car but I'd look at at that, you know, that is way better. You know, we saw Harrison Burton's car flip upside down at Daytona and it looked like the roof barely moved. So like that type of stuff, you know, I'm really glad the car's a lot safer in those regards. But certainly it does seem like when you bounce off the wall, it's a little bit sharper. But I mean, the car is, is stiffer. You know, the car's Yeah. So it's almost like it's going to hurt more. I've seen, you know, seen the chassis. I knew that, you know, the little, I just, I just had a feeling that these little impacts were probably going to,

you're going to feel them more. There's just no good. But it's safer in other, in other, a lot safer in other regards. It might hurt more for the little ones, but the bigger ones are less severe. The chances are severe injury.

You know, I mean, if we slapped independent rear suspension and the parts that we have on the old car and took it to like Darlington and bounced off the wall with independent rear suspension and the way the front suspension designed,

you know, it's definitely going to be stiffer than what it has been on thinner side wall top. And then, well, the tires and the wheels. You know, I look at, I've hit the wall a lot. Everyone knows that. But looking over at my car after the race, you know,

normally when you hit the wall with the old car, you just destroy the tire, the tire would blow, whatever it was, right? You wouldn't really have a lot of debris or markings on the wheel. It'd suck you in too. It suck you in, but certainly the next gen wheel on both right side wheels, I mean, it looked like the wheel pretty much took a lot of the impact. Some of the sidewall scrubbed off. of the tire, but the wheel

really hit the wall more than the tire did. And I think the old car, the tire would eat more of it up than the wheel. Interesting. So, you want to go first? Because I'm probably going to get called to the hauler for this one. I don't want to go to the bathroom. Yep. I mean, first of all,

how in the world can you come out and say that we are suddenly just hitting the wall differently than we ever have this year? Like, what is that, what does that even stand? Like, what does that look like? How, what are these angles that we've never hit at before that were suddenly hitting this year that we've never done? Like, I don't get that. That's one. Wait, I missed that part.

So they came out and said that the reason why the Rex NASCAR statement was the reason why the drivers are feeling the effects now is one, we're hitting at different angles now. And two, we're going faster than we ever have before. Well, I would certainly agree in the middle of the corner corner. We're going fast than we ever had before. The corner speeds are definitely up because you're just not out of the throttle enough. Like back in the day, you'd have a thousand horsepower and you'd have to roll out and roll through the corner. Now you're just falling ass through the middle.

This car has no side force. When you spin it out, it snaps and you're backing in the wall. And you, I mean, from that regard, yes, you never would see a car spin out and crash the way like Chase Elliott's did at Darlington with her old car. You just spin the apron and that'd be it. That's just the way this car is built. So, I mean, I just,

you are back in these cars into the wall more than you would have with the old one for sure. The, you know, our biggest threat, Bubba's two biggest wrecks, you know, for sure corner speeds are up, but still, like, I don't, like, I feel like we've always hit. Like, there's no, you can't tell me, all, to this year, all of a sudden, we're hitting at a 33 degree angle that we've never hit at before. So, you know what I mean? Like, I just, you're never going to convince me that we're just wrecking differently now. Uh, even, I mean, guys spun out and back to the fence. You'd see guys rear clip down to the back windshield many times in wrecks. Um, but, you know, Kurtz was just a simple spin off of four rear impact. Bubba's two biggest hits were all front impact. And, and back. you know, getting hooked, coming to the start, finish line and two plate races. But, you know, I just, the statements of, you know, are wrecking at different angles than we've ever wrecked before, you're never going to sell me on that.

But then just, you know, going to, you know, credit to guys like Kevin and Kyle that are going to have to be the mouthpieces and stand up and say, like, listen, that's just not true, you know? Like, this, like, well, this here, their statements are pretty poignant in the fact that they're just going to, they're calling them out and saying, listen, you know, these are, these are older guys,

the veteran guys that shouldn't be the ones leading the way in this deal. And the drivers are realizing now, you know, they don't, the problem is you got to make these things safer. These guys are not sticking around. Like, you know, like, they're making, I really do know that they're looking at, and they're going to make changes. I think the drivers

just, they're like, I think the drivers really, and I can understand this point of view, they want it to be this week. Yeah. Always. Always. Yeah. That's a driver's thing. But like, hey, like, we obviously I can understand you wanting to fix this week because what if you have that crash?

Yeah. And I think like Denny was a perfect example. Like Denny came out last week every Daytona and he's like, listen, you know, I wasn't, I had not hit yet. Like just like you talked about you haven't had a hit. When he hit that hit at Daytona, he's like, that was rough.

You know, that was that was harder than I thought. Yeah. He took the race off this week. You know, it was, it was a big shot for him. And I think it was okay. Now I kind of see what these guys are talking about a little more. And hopefully you don't ever find that out.

but, you know, I do think the car overall is safer. I think it's safer for sure. I just think it's just too rigid. You know, I think they did a lot to... It's definitely solid. It's to the back.

It's really, it really, I think, boils down to the rear of the car. I think they did some things in the front to kind of make that give a little bit better, but they really have... There's always so much you can do in the front with the motor and all that up there.

But, you know, it just seems like these rear impacts. Bubba talked about it. We were, we were wrecked and I'm not talked about this last week. We were in that big wreck in Daytona. And I think it was Ricky was up, up wrecking up top and just slid down the hill into the back of our car and Bubba's like it completely

knocked the wind out of me. He's like and he was just sliding down the hill like he wasn't we weren't at speed. He's like he's like I just don't understand. Um so you know obviously they're going to get it better you know and we're not doubting that you know it's just it's just it's just it's just hard to hear the driver. It's a learning curve man. It's a new car. Yeah. Obviously I do think it is safer though for overall I think it's safer. Just need to maybe do a couple minor adjustments to it to make the impacts a little less severe. and keep the fires from starting too, right? That would be good.

Well, just, I mean, as long as the stage of the forwards, I'm fine with it. You might want that. Same here. You probably have been okay with that fire at Martinsville there. First race, right? As cold as it was, like 35 years. That's for sure. Kyle Bush says it's probably tougher being who I am to sell a sponsor and then says,

name me the last big $5 to $10 million sponsor that has come into our sport. So is that a Kyle problem or a sport problem? Name one that's leaving. Yeah, and that's probably a Kyle problem. Yeah, the one that's leaving is a Kyle problem, right? Spot on, spot off. TJ. You know, I don't think he's wrong,

but I don't think he's all right. It's like a 50-50 thing here. You know, the way everything is going, it's hard to get the all-year sponsor on a, You don't see many of them. Back in the day, it was like, okay, this was on. that car the entire year. That was their sponsor. Now, now this sponsor wants 10 races. The

markets are different in areas. So they want, they want to be on the car here. Oh, they want Daytona. They want, you know, the marquee races, but, which I don't think is bad. I think that's, it adds variety. Yeah, I think it's good. You know, I don't think it's necessarily, I don't think you're going to see the one big guy come in here and, like, Kyle's been there, though, when it was like that though. When he first started, it was like that. But now you have three, four sponsors a car almost, I think. You have like maybe one big, one bigger one, one, you know, then one medium size one, then maybe two smaller ones. Yeah. I mean, spot on for Kyle because obviously he's kind of acknowledging the fact that his persona has, is going to affect what's going to, his future now.

And, and, you know, Eminem's, you see that, we see it Sunday. A poor guy's leading a race going to win the Southern 500. It blows up. And the crowd goes. nuts. Like as soon as they see smoke coming out of 18, the place is standing up cheering. And I'm like, damn, this poor guy. But, you know, listen, Eminem's afforded Kyle the opportunity to do a lot of things, say a lot of things, and kind of act however he wanted to act for a long time. And that's gone now. You know, and he's feeling the effects of it. And you're not, to your point, there's not many, I don't know of any right now that are, that are full-time sponsors. Denny, I mean, everybody's got, I feel like I don't think anybody's got a full-time deal that I can recall. So, you know,

That's what he's, you know, wherever he ends up next year, that's what his deal is going to look like. You're not going to find Brett, if Brett was here, he'd be the one to tell you, like, you're not going to find a $20 million sponsor now between now and February. Like, that's a year long. But the top guys. Even Chase has multiple sponsors. Yeah, everybody. All of them do.

All like Joey. I mean, a lot of them, too, are B to B sponsors where they use some of their assets to get support from, like, from a business standpoint. So I feel like it's also different where the sport is different. Yeah. The process of. getting a major sponsor like that is probably year long. You know, you're working on these people forever, trying to, you know, take them to races, you know,

smooth them around a little bit. So you're not going to, so if he, wherever he's at next year and that decision's coming soon, I think it's, I think it's a two horse race. Oh, yeah. And who's horse's name? I don't know. But, you know, like, he's just going to have. It's going to be a multi, multi-sponsor deal.

You know, it's going to be race to race. It might be 15 different sponsors. Because, let me tell you some, people will be dying to get on Kyle Butch's car wherever he announces he's going. Because the guy is super talented, one of the most talented guys in the garage. Wherever he ends up next year, he's going to contend for wins. He will be in the playoffs. He will potentially. I mean, he is.

And love him or hate him. He's on TV a lot. And he gets a crowd reaction no matter what. So you're noticing whatever logo is on Kyle's car. So people will be lining up to get on there. It's just, unfortunately, for him, it's not. going to be the 10, 15 million dollar primary sponsor. It's just going to have to be, you know, here and there, piece it together like we were talking about four or five different guys or

or girls sponsor-wise. But, you know, it's just, it'd be interesting to see. And, you know, that's what he's going to have to go through. I mean, you know it. He's had a lot of the same merchandise for a lot of years. So wherever he ends up going, going to sell out of merchandise. Oh, yeah. And yeah, I definitely, there might be a couple of drivers in the garage that it's easier to sell sponsorship for. But certainly, you know, at the end of the day, what he brings the table as a personality, what he does on social media,

all that sort of stuff. I mean, he's got, I would think he's got to be like top top five, I would think. When you go to the racetrack, the merchandise haulers are lined up in the midway, and there's only two guys that have their own merchandise hauler.

It's Chase Ellie and it's Cowbush. Everybody else has their team hauler. There's, you know, all the Toyota guys, are in one and then there's a Kyle Busch all there's all there's all the hendrick guys are in one and there's a chase elli at all those are the only two guys in the sport that have their own merch trailer but yeah i mean i think i don't know if it's necessarily again a problem of like the state of the sport i just think how you know people that they come in partners that come in and want to

be a part of the sport look at doing it have just changed how they want to you know they're spending their money how they want to advertise what they want to do with it it's just changed from what way it was just like being on the sponsor side you're not going to put all your eggs in one basket either. Like right now, they are sponsoring other sports. When you look at, you know, TJ, your comment around market it markets, like they might not find value in going to a place where they don't sell their products. Like West Coast. It means some people don't have product on the West Coast. You know, that's what we talk about. And overall exposure, you can only get it for, you can only find value for so long and get new customers for so long. And when you're spending all that money and you're

not seeing new customers come in from that product, then like what's the point in spending all that money? Guarantee rate one of my partners does it in a really cool way. They just like they're they work with us and when I've talked to them, their motto is kind of like, yeah, we just kind of want to be a part of every little small sport that might be out there. I mean like bowling's not small but they're like, they're on bowling. I did a pickleball event with them. They like do cornhole. They do all these crazy sports and stuff because like they're like, they'll get our name in front of it because not a lot of other people are jumping at it. And I think people are catching on. It's pretty smart. And NASCAR. is the most fan brand loyal sport,

like the research is still there. So, like, I know they'll find success in it, but it's definitely changed compared to what it used to be, like, three years ago. If you liked that guy, you were using that product. Like, if that was your driver and he was sponsored by whatever oil, you were using that oil.

Or smoking that cigarette or whatever. Yeah, I think I've gained a lot of new fans this year with Ritchie. That's what I bet. They don't remember you, but you did get it. Now, they remember. They're like, yeah, you were all right, but you got that three-chee deal, and you just became my favorite driver. That's why you followed up with a restaurant sponsor, man.

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going to run out of beer and cigarettes. Okay, so, TJ, look at the f*** date all the time. I want to tell you this fucking deal. Hey, Freddie. Just letting you know we got the beige GMC out in the parking lot in case you want to have Bubba come out and hit us. Like you said, everything out on the track. Hey now, Jason, got a message for you. Get out of Dillner's ass.

Reaction theater starts now. How about that Xfinity race? The greatest finish this year ever. Can't tell me any different. Sheldon Creed, Kyle Larson battling it out and wrecking the dog-buck out of each other and letting the good. Goat, Noah Gregson, win this race at Darlington. Once again, he's the goat. The goat can't tell me any different.

Noah Gregson, get on door bumper clear now. Oh, yeah, brother. Noah Gregson, the goat, Noah Gregson. We'll have to refer to him next week. He'll be here next week. His deal was, him and Brett made a deal that if he won, he was coming on. So Brett's obviously not here today, so we pushed him back a week. And he'll be here next week.

But yeah, I don't, I got confused. Was it the greatest finish ever or this year? Because he said, the greatest finish ever this year. Well, someone reminds Suarez that Darlington is slick and rubbing is racing. Him and Bell are side by side. A little contact. He gets the wall.

Bell's one of the cleanest drivers on the track. He's out there talking tough after the race. Oh, I'm going to get him back. For what? Racing? I didn't see that. Did he get mad? Oh, yeah.

He definitely said he owes. was in one. He said he was going to get him back for sure. Yeah. What do you get them back by just rubbing against it? Like, they didn't wreck, right? I mean, they just, was you going to just dorm somewhere? I forget how many people he's, he's forgotten. Never, never. He doesn't. Angel.

The Roth Chastain, not give a, tour. Nah, I'm on the Cody Ware, not give a fuck tour. Going from a top 10 to fucking knocking the wall down twice at Darlington and impact in the playoffs. God, glad to see we're back to normal this week. Something had to have broke that last time because he pounded the fence off of two. You don't just miss that. Yeah, like it's something. A toe link or a tire went down.

I've seen him probably been at the gas station on the way home. I think he said he broke a toe link or pent of toe link. Yeah, something broke for sure. So that's not really on him. So here's my thing that Cody did the other night that drives me crazy. And I see this isn't just Cody who's guilty of this. I see a lot of times that people have to do this. And it drives me insane.

Cody did it twice the other night Chooses on the restart Like chooses at the cone Gets to the backstretch And lays over and gets out of line So he's up there like top 15 Top 20 or something like that Would choose what lane he wants to be in

And then when we get to the backstretch He just pulls out and goes to the back So now you're if you're behind him You're choosing based on where he's running Yeah your numbers are messed up And then he just pulls out And moves that whole lane up And you're like

What the fuck? Yeah Stop doing that And then he did it twice I thought Brett was going to lose his mind Because I think Brett was behind him both times I didn't lose my mind on on it when it happened to me

Sunday because it seemed like it worked in my favor. Like if everyone chose it. That was your best restore. Sweet. He got on my way. He got him away. But yeah, that one was tough for me specifically because

whether Kyle was going to have that engine failure or not, you know, I felt like we were chipping away at his lead. I didn't actually know about the 11 yet. Derek didn't tell me about that. But it was setting up to be really, really good for us. I think we were going to get to Kyle and have a shot at racing him. Would have been interested in see if Danny would have kept the pace.

The advantage that he had definitely looked like weight was going to turn out. It was going to come down to me and him pretty much at the end there. So that one was a bummer. We'd finally gotten a rolling pretty good there. So I was pretty unfortunate. If it stays green, I think we probably finish about fifth because we were getting ready to pass air. Oh, yeah, you got the ultra long. Yeah, I think we were.

I think we were, if it stays green, but it obviously didn't. No, it didn't. unfortunately. You mean to tell me Kevin Harvick's car looked like a damn California wildfire. And nobody saw it.

Didn't see it at all. We'll just wait a good 15 seconds to throw the caution. NASCAR should be embarrassed by that. I don't disagree with her. I mean, he did drive it for a long time, though, too. He drove, I mean, he drove it down to the fire trucks, essentially.

Yeah, well, I mean, if it was on fire in turn three, Yeah, yeah. I'm saying he came out of front and he just pulled down by the fire trucks. I honestly think he was going to drive it back. He was going to try and then the thing was in gulfed in flames and he couldn't. Then it got really big. Yeah, so. Yeah, that was crazy. It's a hard call though. If he's trying to drive it back, do you throw the caution? And wait until he's, yeah, because he makes it to the pit stall.

You throw it as soon as he stops or you see him slowing down down there. If you see him stop, you throw it right now. They didn't because he was getting out before they threw it. I drove by him whenever that was starting. And I'm like, oh, that's weird. It smelled like, almost smelled like he had a gear issue. Yeah. And I see it in my fancy high-definition camera I have in these cars.

And I'm like, oh, man, there is something really on fire right behind the right front tire. This is going to be a caution. Yeah, it was wild. Jason, Tyler, wherever the fuck your name is. Shave that damn mustache off. You look like you're getting ready to give my kid candy and try to get it. him in a van. Dude, it's real.

I'm very disappointed that you shaved before you got here. Your buddy Ernie was really hoping I gave you a hard time about it, and then you show up with clean shade. Yeah, Ernie was not impressed. So there's, I mean, it's not a great story, but I mean, there is a story behind it. You know, I was cleaning up for the day right before we had some appearances, and I was shaved my face, and I hadn't had any facial hair in forever.

I kind of had shaved my face. So I was trimming it up. I was kind of rushing and I screwed up, went to way too far. I'm like, oh, great. I'm just got to shave my whole face now. About an hour earlier, well, I had different style hair at Media Day. Lexa doesn't like it at all. So she'd been giving me grief all day about my hair.

So I let her fix my hair. And I just, you know, it's like, okay, I'll fix my hair, whatever. It's fine. I get it. You hate it. It sucks. Okay, cool. I'll change my hair.

So I go on there to shave and I screw up. And I'm like, okay, well, she really didn't like my hair. Okay, change my hair for her. Maybe I'll put this on my face. And Rock it, because it works for Noah. It was one for one. So I was going to try and make it two for two. You got close.

I got close. Let me guess. She loved it, right? I would assume she really. I walked out of the bathroom and you would have thought you saw a ghost. It seemed like everyone. When I walked in my holler, I was around my team for the first time that afternoon, they was either like, oh, yeah.

They're like, oh, my God. What is on their face? The crew guys were like, oh, yeah. Yeah, and the media people were like, what are you doing? It's Darlington, man. It's Darlington. It's the only place you can get away with it, I think. It was great content.

Got all the attention on social media for it. Yeah, a lot of positivity for sure. A lot of good comments. Take the good of the back. To leave an audio message 24-7, go to anchor.com. slash door bumper clear. Click the message icon, and we will keep playing the best ones each week on the show. Dirty Moe Media fans.

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So this first one is from Superhero 2.5. What are your thoughts on NASCAR changing the DVP clock from 5 to 10 minutes? We should sponsor the DVV. Yeah. Should this have been done sooner in the year? The DBC clock, I like it. I think it should have been done after the year. You leave it how it is right now.

Yeah, that actually got me thinking about a change they made earlier this week, too. Maybe you know what I'm talking about. The qualifying changes they did? I don't know what you're talking about. The qualifying order? Still don't know what you're talking about. Okay, sorry. I'm going to break it down.

So Monday it was, they sent a bulletin out saying that they changed the qualifying order for the playoff cars. So you could run dead last. Didn't matter how you finished the week before. You're going to still, in your order, go before, you know, all the other cars are outside of the playoffs. So you could have a 40 on your metric and you're still going to be probably, you know,

I'd say the 13th or 12th car out. And you're in the same group? Like everybody. Group A. Well, it's group A and group B. It's split evenly. Oh. But it's just, it kind of, it's kind of frustrating to me.

It kind of takes me back to when we were all, you know, our starting order was kind of determined by playoffs and all that sort of thing. You know, like you, uh, when I was outside of the playoffs that first year, I like ran like second somewhere and I was still starting like 17th. 17th. I don't think it should change. I think it should be how it is. Like you're...

Oh yeah, that's what I was getting to. Like, let's not make changes in the middle of the year. Like, we know this way the rules are going to be. And let's some sort of safety deal. Like, that kind of frustrated me because of all weeks, this was the week that was going to have the most parody to it, right? Like, nobody in the play that was in the playoffs had a good day. I guess I'm a little salty about it because I did.

Me and Austin were going to be like the last two cars out and everybody else was going to be way before us. You're saying you earned it. Well, I felt like it did. And then they made a real change. So I was a bit frustrated. So, I mean, when I look at this, changing the D.B clock, to me, it's kind of the same thing. Like, I, you know, why are we changing the old of year?

Like, we've been prepping and understood that, okay, this is our time. We have five minutes to get all this done. You kind of have tools and all these things accordingly, game plan accordingly. Now we've got to start thinking about, okay, now we have twice the time. We can think about it more, blah, blah, blah. It should just stay the same. Like, you should have the same advantage, you should have the same opportunity as the other guy. So basically you're saying if we finished seventh

If you would have finished seventh You're going to be in a better spot next week Simply because you're in the playoffs Yeah like all the playoff cars Whether it's group A or group B Go out last in the order of how Based off their metric So you're telling me that we could go to Kansas

With the best Opportunity or whatever Say it's our best track And we're going to be a disadvantage already before we get there Yeah like a place like Martinsville or Richmond It would have been huge with how that went And I feel like Martinsville is going to play out almost the exact same way.

Some of these tracks, like the roval won't matter. I just don't know why you would change it now. It's definitely going to change the outlook of the qualifying. This next one is from our favorite B underscore de Kock for the eight. How aggressive does Chase Elliott need to be the next two races after going into Darlington with a 33 point lead and coming out with a 15 point cushion?

Tyler, I'll ask you that first. you know, I don't think they have to hit the panic button or anything. I think it'd be that'd be the mistake, right? If you hit the panic button after a day like you had a Darlington, going into Kansas, make the same mistake. Now you're really in trouble. But, I mean, he's been the best car all year on a consistent basis, whether it's, you know, maybe he's not had the fastest car every single weekend,

but he's gotten the most out of it and been the most consistent. You know, he was regular season champ, has the most playoff points. I mean, like, again, I think if they just have normal or just average runs over the next two races, he'll be fine. Yeah. When you start doing things differently is when you start having issues. Like, you don't have to change anything. There's no reason to raise the aggression level. You go through this week normal and then you see where you're at.

Maybe for Bristol, you've got to raise it a little bit. But like Tyler said, he's been the most consistent guy. He's going to go up there and get 30 points. You know, it's going to have a good run and he'll be fine going into Bristol. but, you know, you don't, once you start at Ram Bristol. Once you start, well, that was a couple of weeks ago. Once you start changing things, that's when you find yourself in trouble. Yeah, I don't, definitely not a panic situation.

There might be a time where in this race where somebody puts him three wide maybe and instead of normally not lifting, he might lift this time just to be out of the situation. But if he goes and does what he's been doing all year, it's not even going to be a factor. All right. Well, congrats to Superhero to five for having. this week's Offerpad question of the week. Time for us to get to our favorite X-FINITY X-Fi

more than fast moments from this week. Whether you're behind the wheel or online, speed isn't the only thing you need. So what were your more than fast moments this week? DJ. Oh man. You know,

it's got to be hard for me not to these are all great choices. There's so many good choices between Eric and Kyle and Noah. I'm going to give it Eric Jones. I got to give it Eric Jones there. You know, being in position,

that's a long race to not make a mistake in or take yourself out of. There's plenty of opportunity to speed, to brush the wall, to take yourself out of the race. And he didn't, and he was rewarded by it from, you know, obviously there was a part failure or something in front of him, but he was there.

And to do that, you got to be more than fast. Yeah, I got two. My first one goes to Kyle Larson for how fast he spun out after he took the wave around and got himself back in position to get back on the lead lap. That was pretty impressive on his part, I thought. And then I'll actually give it to the 43 pit crew. Eric did a great job, obviously, also,

but the pit crew is what got in position there. Oh, my old guys, Rick James, Ian, Doug and them guys, Rick James. You know these guys. they're the ones that wave on pit road every week. You know, they're the ones out there. They waved every car as they go by. Yeah, they do. They do.

Yeah. So their guys are awesome. And then they had a smoking, I think, 9-2 or 9-3 pit stop to get them up in position to when the 18 blew the race that they were leaders. I met him in there like me. You're way cooler. Thanks. Yeah.

That's pretty cool. Yeah. We had a saw 9-pit road, but we didn't have that. You didn't have that 9-3 or whatever was out there. Tyler. Um, um, well, I, I don't know, you guys took to, too, uh, obvious. ones. I would say for me

just seeing how out of gas he was at the end of the race and how hard he was pushing to stay in that fight. He got passed by Kyle Larson and then stay in it, not let the two leaders run away from him. I got to give it to my man fellow Fumannchu rocker, retiree. We both retired it. Noah Gregson.

He had a really good race. Noah's been really good at Darlington and yeah to fight up there and stay with Kyle I have to get in past that's a tough thing to do

it's so easy at Darlington when you're working your tail off and someone just drives around you it's weird like I don't know it happened to me a bunch of times in the cup race like I could fight fight fight and as soon as they passed me

they would just drive away from like 20 car lengths and he never so easy for that to happen to that driver when you're the third one in line if you will so you do a good job staying in the fight not giving up and putting himself in position there when the leaders got into it. Here on Doverbeclear, being more than fast is a way of life.

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Thank you to Xfinity. Proud premier partner of NASCAR. What an idiot. All right. It's time for What an Idiot. And I know, Tyler, you already had three. So feel free to go first. I'm disappointed in you.

You know why? It's because we're sitting talking about, you know, Noah and you guys rocking the thing together. Yeah. Why do you not walk around with your fire suit, like unzipped and stuff? I did. I did it one time. Didn't go well. I just don't anymore.

What happened my notes? Oh, your list? Delete them. Where did they go? They're next to TJ's. There were, Freddie did his notes at the bar after his birthday. I did, actually, I did notes. This is frustrating.

They're usually in order. So I do, I get to go first. That's kind of my favor. I let you go. I don't know. Who you got to call an idiot? I don't know. Nice guy, Tyler Redican.

I really missed, I don't have a lot of details, but it's hard not to talk about or, or, okay, just give it to Anthony Alfredo. I like, what the heck happened? Well, he threw up the pasta. Oh, he threw up. Now I feel bad.

Well, the thing was, so he threw up. He said he was driving in his interview. But like some, I thought it was pretty funny. When I drive heave, I don't hit the gas. I hit the brake. He was hauling ass down the back straightaway dry heaving. And somebody commented on Twitter I saw where it's like, well, Noah throws up every week and he wins. So that's not an excuse.

I'm actually, it's actually a really good point. I think it was like one of the last exfitting races I ran that 48 car. I don't know why I mentioned that. But anyways, the last race I ran with 48, I got out, I think it was Nashville. I went over there and was like Pat and Noh on the back and like Kristen Bowers standing there. She goes way back. She used to be out here. Yeah.

And I'm sitting there and no just seems out of him. I'm like, what's wrong with him? He's like, oh, he just threw up all over himself right where I was just patting him. I'm like, oh, great. But like, I don't know. I guess he just needs to throw up a few more times and we do some more practice, throw up all driving. Maybe he'll be all right. Like the one team that can't afford to wreck cars, they're wrecking I'm under caution now.

Like that deals, that deals imploding very fast. That was a rough, rough outing for the Carolina Cowboys car. I hate that for Austin. They didn't stay on for the full eight seconds. I don't think. No. I was going, obviously, that was my leading contender there. That was going to be my leading one there.

But I'm still going to have to stick. with Derek Krauss for ever asking me to take him out to a bar. He probably will never do it again. Yeah, it was pretty poor judgment on his part. I got so many texts. They're like, what is that kid thinking about? Like, please don't kill him. I didn't kill him.

When you texted me about it, I'm like, that's bold. Severely injured. All right. So I'm going to go with the guy that runs some trucks stage for Kyle, Coreyheim. So in Wilkesboro there, he gets a new intern one. You were sitting down there, I think. I was not on turn four.

for the late model. I didn't have Derek spotting for him. That was his problem. Matt wasn't in it. So he goes into, he gets into it with somebody in this car tour race in the middle one and two

and they about spit out well he hangs a left to like try to wreck the guy and then like hits him in the door and wrecks himself. Like just ridiculous. And then

yesterday I'm watching that arc race and did you see any of that? No. So it rained and they ran it yesterday. I don't. I was, so it rained. I'm watching this saying and he gets used up a little bit and he gets used up.

He gets spun out. Like it drove through Jesse Love didn't show him any love. No love. There was no love right there. And he spun him out. So nothing wrong with the car sits there until the caution comes out. And then there's only look there when I say that it's an arc of race, there was six five, six cars racing. And that was it.

So. And then so they give. him a five-lap penalty for bringing out the caution. And they're trying to beat rain that it eventually actually ends up short because of rain. And he parks on the track to bring the caution out. And they literally give him a five-lap penalty. So, and you know that's the rule too, though.

And he was just mad that, you know, you get spun out. So you just got to know better than that. Because we actually had another caution that wasn't him. Or they had another caution, it wasn't him. So he would have been caught right back up on the lead lap and been fine. But the little,

I'm going to bring the caution out. Well, good luck with that. You gotta be smarter than that. Yeah. That was a rough stretch. Well, you know, talking about rough, that Darlington has not been good to Alfredo this year because I remember now the first race, you know, he had that issue this week. The first race, remember he blamed Landon for making him speed down pit road.

And the video comes out and Landon was nowhere. Like it was like we already pulled off the pit and he was on the other end of pit road when he spent. There are so many. Maybe was that place, Appalanties? Maybe he goes to Apple Anis the night before the race left there. There's a, there's so many like pasta jokes with that. Oh, he's got Alfredo. Was it mom spaghetti?

There's so many pot. All right. Let's move on to DBCPICs because I finally won at Darlington with Denny. Thank you, Denny. Turn over a new leaf. Yeah, whatever. Tyler should erect Denny. Oh, yeah.

Well, I mean, that would have been. That would have been a good idea. I mean, on the restart through two, we actually had contact. That was pretty big. I was like, hey, that was pretty big off turn two. He's like, yeah. I was kind of laughing. I'm like,

asking if it was bigger than the contact than the parking lot here. All right. So on that note, Brett, yeah, Brett leads with eight wins. Jason is in second with seven. T.J.

and Freddie are tied in third with five. And of course, I'm last with three. Let's make picks for Kansas. Do we know who Brett picked? Brett's picking Kyle Bush. Son of a bit. Freddie.

That's who I wanted to pick. I'll take. I'll take the boss man You Dennis T.J. All right. Now I got to go back to the drawing board here. Seems like Toyota's

are the trends so far. Yeah, you know what? I don't want to do it. He's going to screw me if I do it. I don't know I won't pick you. Oh, thanks. Usually it's a bad luck. It's a bad luck.

Yeah, but I think I won with you though, didn't I? I did win with Tyler. I'm going to go with Christopher Bell. Damn it. That's a good one. I'm going to go out of the playoffs. Martin Shooks Jr. Okay, so the Gibbs guys are all gone.

Toyota's everywhere. There's one more, there's two more Toyotas you can pick from, Casey. I don't even remember. I mean, I would. I mean, I'd just go for it. I would. Who would you pick?

Oh, geez. You can pick basically anybody but Ham one. You can't pick Ham one anyway, so. Or Toyota. I mean, I should be Bubba. I don't know. Bubba ran good at Darlington. And everyone's picked Toytis here.

I say there's a good chance how this day could go. We passed him. It would not be a bad idea. Or I could pick Larson. He's had a lot. He's had. But this could be his race. Today would be great.

I don't know. I'm sorry. It's almost like you've had the whole show. Fine. I'll pick. I'll pick. I'll pick Larson. What a, what a pick.

Wow. So crazy. All right. You're crazy. Tyler, I have to ask this. Knowing that you have already out, they break this even more. You just about, that just about was the last.

As I, as we, you know, knowing that you're already signed up for 2024 season with 2311, what, what do things look like right now? I know you're shifting to Toyota, 2023, back with RCR, not tell us anything. What do things look like right now, knowing that 2024 is set, but 2023 TBD, and you're still probably in planning.

Well, it's certainly everything has been, it's been interesting. You know, our CR certainly wasn't thrilled with how everything went on the announcement on the future. But it hasn't really seemed to hurt things this year. We've been able to go out and win another race and continue to run strong. But it's obvious. I mean, you know, some feelings have been hurt. So, yeah, I don't know. I think I'm going to be there next year.

I'm pretty sure that's what the plan is, but, you know, they're trying to. Me too. That's how I was asking. They are certainly trying to figure what their future is going to look like. Right. They know it's not going to involve me. So, you know, there's weighing out all their options, trying to figure that out right now. Have you been a part of anything Toyota, anything 2311, or is that really just you're waiting until close to 24?

No, I didn't joked about it quite a bit. I'm straight up competitor right now. No help. Yeah, you're not. No meetings. No meetings. Well, it was interesting in Daytona, like, watching. you run very well with her and with check me i didn't realize that until someone said something to me

then i went back and watched it i'm like dang this looks bad oh but kyle and denny and the the the toyota front bumper just line up really good um with my back bumper no pun intended quite literally they just line up better you know you saw what happened when i tried to push somebody i freaking wrecked mcdowell so i mean better off up front nice guy so i have a quick question what was the first initial contact like whenever you got were like oh you know what i mean could you say anything about that i mean me and denny have if have talked quite a bit you know it was the first thing that was just you know surprising to me is when he did reach out you know just you know complimented me and what i do he's been paying attention he knows the work i put in

thinks to do a really good job and it kind of just started there and we would just you know every time we'd race around each other we just you know tax talk back and forth and it kind of just it's from there. I didn't really know where it would go. But, you know, the more and more we talked, the more, you know, it became obviously he wanted me to be there. So it was, it was pretty exciting. So this is like your first real, him coming after you for just driving? Like, oh, opportunity. Yeah. Yeah. That's good for sure. No, I was. And I never even really thought about it that way. But yeah, that's, you know, as you, it's tough to, to get into NASCAR. And I had a lot of, help along the way. I wouldn't have made it here without it, you know, from my family and my

grandfather. So, you know, it's really cool that it's gotten, you know, my work. I think you started off, you put yourself around the right people like with Brad and stuff too. In the beginning, you get right. Like, I mean, I think you've been around good people your whole career. Like, even at Junior Marr Sports here, you're around good people and, and you've excelled from it. So I think you've earned it. No, thanks. And your spotter early on was probably a big asset too. Yeah, it was kind of a self-plugged there wasn't it. I wasn't actually meaning me. I'm just talking about you had good like...

TJ spotted for him back in the truck, Daisy kind of self-plugged himself. Yeah, I was talking more like leaders like Brad and Del Jr. and stuff. You had good... And Tjibed majors. Yeah, yeah, me, of course. I did listen to him too sometimes.

That's for sure. We go to Texas five laps in. Not time yet. I'm up there running the fence. Not time yet. Cars are going by on the inside, trucks. Not time yet, buddy. In the fence.

I remember one time I told Tyler, I was like, oh, yeah, we can't run up top there and like three last way he tries it and then he hits the wall and he was like yeah i don't know what i was doing just then there was i couldn't for whatever reason just painting a white line was not my thing it's painting the outside wall was more my thing all right well thank you so much for joining us tyler i'm really glad you had it easy with brett not being here yeah i didn't offer the the business insider and and and the insight it was oh how about i say this this will really get i'm good

It was, I didn't, I didn't speed going through McB. Oh, or MacB? Yeah, McBee. I stopped at the gas station there. You know, it's weird. I look at it on my phone and there is no A. Yeah, there's never been a. That's what I always say.

That's always right. You will never win the I go out. I've heard people call it McDonald's. Yeah, true. They live in McBee. Maybe in MacB. Yeah, exactly. McDonald's in MacB.

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