Door Bumper Clear - 269 - Bristol II & Justin Haley: Balls on the Table

Episode Date: September 19, 2022

Door Bumper Clear returns from Bristol Motor Speedway after the NASCAR Cup Series Round of 16 cutoff race. Cup Series driver Justin Haley joins his spotter Brett Griffin, along with T.J. Majors and Freddie Kraft to talk about his 12th-place finish and working with Brett.To start Spot On, Spot Off, NASCAR didn’t throw a caution for Brad Keselowski but threw one quickly for Christopher Bell late on Saturday night. T.J. breaks down what happened to the No. 6 car and why neither incident warranted a caution.Next, the guys discuss Denny Hamlin’s tweet about needing an improved Next Gen car. Haley talks about how the rules limit teams being able to make improvements and how Kaulig Racing compares to bigger organizations personnel-wise. Hear whether the spotters agree with Hamlin and why the short track product is struggling.Brandon Jones didn’t move Noah Gragson for the Xfinity Series win at Bristol, the week after announcing he’s taking over the No. 9 next season. Jones said that didn’t cross his mind once during the race and the crew reacts to the finish. They explain the points opportunity Jones missed and why he should have won the race.Richard Childress Racing announced Kyle Busch to the No. 8 car next season and how they plan to run Tyler Reddick in a third charter next season. The guys theorize why RCR isn’t planning to have Reddick drive for them next year and what his 2023 may look like.Finally, NASCAR released the 2023 Cup schedule eight weeks before the end of the season despite only making two track changes. Brett explains how this puts the teams' sponsorship discussions at a disadvantage and what other changes they would have liked to see.In Reaction Theatre, fans call in about South Carolina losing to Georgia, celebrating Chris Buescher’s win and a song about Noah Gragson throwing up.Later in the show, the gang makes playoff predictions for the Round of 12 in the Cup Series and why one driver stands out as the Xfinity Series title favorite.Thank you to our presenting sponsor Offerpad and partners Xfinity and RacingUSA.com for making this show possible. Want more DBC? Check out and subscribe to the new DBC YouTube channel! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Yo, what's up? Welcome to Door Bumpur Clear, presented by Offerpad. I'm Freddie Craft. Today we'll cover everything from Bristol with our buddy, Justin Haley. We'll talk to Dirty Moe Ultimate Experience, no caution for Brad Keselowski, next-gen durability issues, playoff predictions, Kyle Busch to RCR, and much, much more.

Jason, let's roll. Nobody's listening, but I don't care. I'm on an episode of DoorBumper Clear. Hey, everybody. I'm G.J. Majors. Spotter of the... Let me see the... The six-cup car, 68, had one truck, and I even didn't make an arc of a car.

Who drives you 68? This weekend was Chris Wright. Chris wrong. Chris wrong. Quick question. Why did you hit the wall while you were leading the race? Why did I hit the wall? Yeah, while you were leading the cup race.

Bristol, you're about to win. Why did you hit the wall? Because we had a tire malfunction. Do you read the show sheet? Seriously. Brett Griffin, Spotter, Colleg Racing. Got my buddy Justin Haley beside me. We'll kick it to him in a minute.

Good run for us the other night. top 12 and Freddie I guess you were smoking all day yesterday I was smoking all day yesterday I was smoking all day Saturday I was smoking all day Friday no I had them all covered yeah right okay yeah all right my weekend took a steep turn downhill after Thursday night uh it's up freddy craft your your week started off with you smoking in here on Monday yeah well that was that was uh did it ever stop yeah it stopped too actually so that night I left here started drinking left here, continue to drink until about midnight,

and then I died pretty much. So then I just took the rest of the week off. And Megan, the next day, well, Megan couldn't go out on Monday because she had to work. So then Tuesday, she was,

I'm sorry, Tuesday, Wednesday she was off. And she's like, let's go do something. And I'm like, get away from me, go work,

go downstairs. I'm not getting out of bed. Go to work. I don't care. I don't care. Honestly, somebody needs to check on Megan at this point. I'm not really worried.

She's fine. She'd get over it. And she went with him to Bristol. Yeah, she was there this week. Maybe that was the problem. Maybe she's not coming back because Friday night. Did you go to Hooters? I did go to Hooters, but I guess Herm stole all my mojo because Herm came with me.

Congrats to Mike Herman for winning with Chris Busher. If you were in the suite, we told a story about how Mike got me down here kind of hooked me up above up. I don't know 13 years ago. I don't know the Yankee moves south. I got to show you something. So while TJ shows us something, what's up, Casey? Hey guys. Casey Boat here.

your marketing VP. You've upgraded yourself. Promoting myself. What kind of raises I come with? Look at this interview. I'm so waiting. Look in the background. There's a boy, Herm.

Hey, Jason. Hey, Jason, Shell's producer at EBC here. Fresh back from the Bristol Sweet. Did you even drink last night? Yeah. No, not drinking at all. Bristol Sweet was a lot of fun. I met a lot of great people there.

Had a really good time with everybody. And you all came by. Megan was there. Yeah, Megan did come. She's story. Megan, I can see smoke coming out of her ears when we told the Columbia story for the second time. You made me tell it. Well, it's because I was smart because she was in that.

I was going to get in trouble if I told it. So you didn't share all the details? I mean, pretty much. I mean, I didn't go into the financials of it. But yes, I shared most most of the details. He didn't. No, I'm the next. If you want to hear that story, come to the next fan experience.

So feel free to share whenever you'd like. Wow. You can come to the next fan experience. I know where you can buy a ticket. Yeah, me too. I'll send you a link. We'll give me a discount. Oh my gosh.

She's going to stab you. Hey, Justin. How's it going? I'm great. You've picked a great show. 269. Brett's off. One number?

Dirt right now. If we don't have a question from Dicoc in episode 269, I'm going to be a great. I think, I think, I think, this opportunity. Damn it, Jason.

I don't think you sent one in. But I saw a few tweets that said, hey, if I changed my name to Dacock, will you pick my question? I'm guessing Jason did not pick his question. I don't think he sent one in, but yes, we can change your handle of work. So Justin Haley, I've been trying to get you on here for what seems like a year. And I made a deal with you.

We had a deal one night in Big Al's where you agreed to come on and 15 minutes later, you said, I can't. I got a massage tomorrow. Yeah. It all happened so quick that night. I had to pick a massage too. Last night, that night at Big Al's happened real fast. So then I told him this weekend, as soon as I did something, he, he, he, he, would have me on the show.

I did something. We determined. What did you do? I finished on the lead. I had something. Yeah. I'm really proud of you. We are the champions, my friend.

Yeah, I mean, it was just, I had to do something. That's a win. That's like a win. Would you finish 12th? Yeah, 12. And that was like a circumstantial 12th because I thought you ran much better than 12th most of the night, right? I mean, I felt like you ran better than AJ and I don't even know where AJ ended up. He was in the top 10 somewhere, I would assume.

I don't know if he knows this, but in the cup series, you have to pit. Yeah, from time to time. Not good for you? Yeah, we were either like seventh or 37th. There was no between, just depending on our Piz strategy. So, yeah, it was flip-flopping. Yeah, and that's just all you did all night. At one point, Cody Ware passed us, and I almost jumped off the back of the roof.

Yeah. Hey, Cody Ware. He did you text when that happened. But then I passed, Cody Ware. So, yeah. Yeah, it was overall a good night. We had a really fast car in one and two. Like, we could rip the bottom.

A lot of guys moved up really early. Justin did not. like he was really trying to make his stuff work on the bottom. And at one point, he fussed at me for telling him to run the top. Yeah, yeah, I did. Oh,

you got mad. Yeah, I mean, it was like a jokingly fuss. No, no, it wasn't. No, it wasn't.

So we were lining up. What was the jokingly? Shut the fuck up, ran off all that's on the bottom. We were lining up on a restart. We had just pitted, so we were way back there. And Cody,

where was in front of me, so, you know, with all due respect, we were going opposite. And he's like, I hope Cody takes the top because I couldn't make the top.

And so Cody chose the bottom and I chose the bottom. And there we were. And I rode behind them for a few laps and we passed them and set our sights on the next one. Yeah, fun race track, right? Yeah, no, I tell you what, there is, that's really my first Bristol night race. I don't think that there was anywhere that did a pre-race as good as that. I mean, the Daytona 500 comes to mind because it is what it is. But the Bristol Night Race pre-race show.

What was your song? Yeah, what did Brett choose for you? So Brett, Brett didn't choose for me. Oh. Oh, thank God for that. It was a publicity act, you know? I'm glad you really didn't trust him with that.

I had a sentimental song from my family. So it was Summer Breeze by Seals and Cross. It was my... You want to sing a line or two first? No, I don't. Anyway, Grandma's favorite track, Grandma's favorite song. That's awesome.

You know what I don't like? That is awesome. That is we can't tell from the roof what the song is. I can tell one of them. Did you hear what Tyoretic song was? What was it? Beastie boys. Sabotage.

Nice. Oh, no. And it couldn't have come in a more perfect time, right? The timing couldn't have been better for that.

Were there any other good ones that? That was actually the only one I made sure because I was hoping I was hoping that Kyle or Tyler played take this job

and shove it by what's his name? Wow. That would have been amazing. Sabotage is actually better. Take this job and show it. Can you imagine, though, like if Kyle came out,

because that's the first word you hear in the song is, take this job and show it. Oh, my gosh. So now the Bristol songs are you turn into like, hitting meetings. The Sapphire. Who knew our sport could do such a thing? Yeah, I didn't really hear any.

I'm sure Bubba had some stupid ass screaming heavy metal song that if I had to guess. Did you run your modified around the dirt? Yeah, I did. I tried. I blew up like three motors in two days and spent a bunch of money and left pissed off. So you ran Bristol Dirt Modified, Bristol Dirt Cup, Bristol Cup car. What's more fun to drive around there?

Well, obviously the modified was hooked up. I mean, you're just wide open with a thousand horsepower and eight-inch tires. So the few laps I did before I grenade two engines was really fun. But, you know, I think it's. It's, man, I don't know, the concrete's fun. It was fun, but... It evolves through to race. Like, it's bottom, top.

I wish there was more fall off. Oh, gosh, yeah. Don't say that word. Between all three series, I feel like there was no fall off, which, I mean, I don't know. I feel like there has been fall off at Bristol. I mean, is that just something I was missing? Listen, man, we saw Jimmy Johnson Pitt probably seven years ago for a flat tire, and by the time it it cycled, it was early in the run.

Like, he was 50 laps into a run. He pitted, and he came out with damn near a lap. lead after the cycle. Clearly he went a couple laps down. Yeah, that was the first boy. But he was so freaking fast. So yeah, we have had tire fall off there, but we did not have a lot of tire fall off this weekend.

Yeah, so I tell you what, the center corner speed, that first 65 lap green flag run, I talked to AJ about this too, and the caution come out. And I come on the radio and I said, I was like, man, woohoo. This is going to be a long night, 500 laps. Like, buckle up, Buttercup, you know? It's a lot. It's a lot of laps.

I finally kind of got settled down into a groove. But, you know, I think the Bristol Dirt race this year, you know, there was about seven rain cautions or, you know, it just, you're in and out of the car. And, you know, there was that pit strategy that no one knew what was going on. Who's leading? Yeah, yeah, there was that. I'm leading. No, you're leading. I think for me it wasn't that fun this year.

So, I don't know, maybe next year I'll have a little more fun. Yeah, cool. I thought the race was okay. I thought the race was pretty good, even with no fall off. honestly I would have liked fall off but you know I thought it was going to go top lane dominant yeah the bottom actually was a little bit racier I thought it was we were we were much better on the bottom I mean it was only not the top race but yeah we got to lead from the bottom yeah so I mean when we we passed all them guys our car was good though we can move up and make ground they would move

up and you know we could go where they weren't and still run a faster yeah it was just weird to see like you watched the arca race on whatever night that was Thursday night and the track rubbered up like it used to like from top to bottom it was rubbered up trucks went out there, pulled all that rubber up, and then never laid any more down. The cup guys finally laid some rubber down up top. They started to the very end. A couple trucks moved up,

but it was like the last 20 laps of the race. It was already over. Wait, what arque car were you spotting? The 73. Andy J. The Archer race. Yeah, we came back from two laps down to finish eighth.

Let me tell you something. That Arker race. Dude, there was, I turned on the FS1 broadcasts at home, and there was like 30 cars. Oh, there was a lot of them. There needed to be 27. When they went green, When they went green, there was three guys out there that I could have beaten my truck.

So what was the minimum speed? There is no minimum speed in arc now. It's by eye. It's like, ah. There was two separate races. There was a bottom lane of lap cars and then everyone else on the top lane. Did you see that one point in a race? It was pretty early in the race where the leaders got to that group of lap cars.

And it looked like a bomb was getting ready to go off. And I was just waiting for it. We were sitting in the suite waiting for the truck race to start. And like there's, I don't know, there's probably 10 cup spotters in there. just hanging out waiting for the for the truck race and they're coming up and we're like oh god because you can tell like we can't do this for living so we know what's coming and it's like oh boy oh boy oh god and like it's fine for the first five or six guys because they're single file and then once the first guys that are side by side come up you're like yeah here we go and these these guys

are literally running brad smith was the 48 car he was part of this pack he had no issues the first half of the race he was 21 laps down by a lap one 100. Yeah. I mean, it was, every what, five laps? You know? The leaders got to the first lap car, I think,

on lap five. Yeah. Like, if you're 20 laps now by lap 100, you're getting laughed every five laps. I was screaming about it. I'm like, I don't know how do you race.

Like, I'm no problem with people wanting to race, but like, how do you go out there and just have fun doing that? It's like, it looks like a driving experience. Like, I'm got here.

Like, get off the race track. There's, and there was three of them. might have the right side seat in it. There's a mouth. There's a mouth there for sure. I don't know if the seat's in there.

I mean, we talk about all, or you guys talk about it all the time, I guess not me, but I mean, that was a, you think it obviously. That was an impressive arc of field. Yeah,

it was a lot of cars. Yeah, I was a lot of cars. I was expecting to turn the TV on and see seven cars. Yeah. So it was nice to see the, like Kansas.

How many were there? I don't remember. Not many. Like less than 20. Yeah. So that was, that was cool, see. Casey,

who you talking to on your phone? Um, No, I'm actually checking Bob's Twitter handle. Sorry, Bob, thanks for the info. Bob. I like when people tweet to Bob and then be like, oh, Bob, you didn't think about like, you're wrong, Bob. This is what the case is.

And Bob's like, you think you know more than I do. Can we talk about Bob in the phone pit? Oh my gosh. I saw a party Bob. Dude, I saw Bob in the morning. I was like, geez, Bob. Listen. Did you know the name that Casey gave Bob?

It's about Bob Packeross. Okay, that was like four years ago. And honestly, it's still six. Listen, if those people thought they saw Party Bob because he was firing off a foam gun, they should have seen Party Bob with me and Bread in Dover one year. So I told Bob, I saw him Victory Lane. He's up there. And I'm like, Bob, if you hang around, we're going to get the foam thing out here a little bit

and rage if you want to hang around for it. Like, Bob, did you see his arms? His arms had to be tired the next day. He was fist pumping. He got down there in the foam and started hanging out. So he was good after that. Bob Pockers is so famous. We just call him Bob.

Bob now. Yeah. And people know. Oh, yeah. No, there's only one Bob. He's my idol.

Like there used to be Bob Seeger. And now there's Bobbacher. I'm honestly hoping there are a few like Halloween costumes about Bob. Oh, for Barnesville. I would love to dress up as Bob. Give me curly brown hair. I dressed up like Bob.

And then give me, give me glasses that you know there's no way in how you can actually see out of them. Exfinity 500 race weekend is Halloween weekend. It's not Halloween. No. It's Halloween. Oh my. Oh.

Oh. after the H or no. They celebrate Halloween and McBee. Whatever. And eat McDonald's. I dressed up like Bob Ross at Brett's one year. I think it would have been the same costume. We just need glasses you can't possibly see out of and curly hair.

The funniest thing was you dressing up as him. The funniest thing was Brett not knowing what the was going on. I was so drunk. I was going to know he was dressed up as me. I was like, damn. What I was looking at you? Where did you get my socks?

He's like, why are you wearing my clothes? I'm thinking of Bob's tweets lately because what were with all of the issues, A, with Ford and tires, and B, like, car issues. Is it because, you know. Do you not read the show sheet? I've never been a part of the show, but I think that comes later. She. I'm not sure, though. So last night at about 9 o'clock, I text our group.

Somebody's going to get the middle finger here. And I said, man, I know this is going to be a tough show for you to navigate, Casey. But I really want you to be prepared and not kiss NASCAR. stars aster in this whole show. And she got mad. She obviously still didn't read the show sheet. I did. She comes here unprepared all the time.

It frustrates the f***ed out of me. I should just, I think I should just leave. If you swear you're going to get $100. The best part, the best part by this old year is, of course the ton of group me. The best part about this whole deal

is the two people that don't read the show sheet are going to argue with each other. I read the show sheet. I just sometimes ask TVC gets me. I'm so sorry. But no. We just communicate with memes most of the time.

That's how I hate you to the show sheet. Memes and emojis. Memes and emojis. That's all we got. But that's actually not the same question is what I was. Oh, now we're going to navigate. Why we suck? What?

That's what we're going to do. No, just issues in general. I feel like Bowman was talking about how in Bristol, like where, I don't know if the surface. We're still going to talk about this later. You're not going to dig yourself loud of this. Is that question wasn't in the show sheet? Why wasn't it? All right.

Let's have one. It seems like a reasonable question. Now Jason's getting fired up over here. Well, we've got a new DBC t-shirt for sale on Dirtymoanmedia.com. That's very exciting. It's the one of the first ones we actually think have had for sale on there. So go check it out. It's probably going to sell out fast and get it.

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He designed the shirt. It's for sale right now, DBCC. T-shirt, Speed Street T-shirts also out now and some other stuff too. He does all Dell Jr.'s eye racing cars too, I think. Yeah. And they all look pretty good. Dale Jr. has a personal eye racing designer. How do you think he got a job of J-R-M?

Wow. What, do you think he picks out his own personal clothes, too? Wow. It must be nice to be Dell Jr. You think? Are you just figuring this out? I'm talking to the guy who's still waiting on a boat. Listen, even like when you race with him on there, you're like, oh, you're like,

he doesn't realize when he gets. people. The guy's like, oh, that's Dale Jr. I'm going to race him good. They let him go right by. You get to the guy. And the guy's like, oh, get on your door. Like, you mother.

TJ. Yeah. What's his irising name? Is it just junior? Oh, yeah. No, he races. Del Jr. Yeah.

Oh, it's a little junior. I feel like you should just be junior. Uh, there's probably them already. No, he races his real name. I'm telling him he doesn't realize how catered to people are than, like, if it was me and you, we're getting wrecked. Oh, yeah. So he doesn't realize that everybody around him kisses his ass.

He doesn't realize that. Not on there. Not on there, but he should. Yeah. And then I race him and then he gets mad. You talk about like you watch, you go to like a plate race or Dale Jr. There's a line of cars.

Oh my God. I just live in real life though. And then that's funny. You know how you know your screws is when you go out there. And so Ryan puts these paints a lot of times on like trading paints, which is a website where you go and pick out stuff.

There's like 700 people using the same scheme. When you get out there and there's like seven filter time car, You know you are screwed. Like they'll join the session and be like, oh, Gail Jr's in here. Oh, yeah.

Go get his scheme, load back in. Well, you just know that they're not helping you a bit. They're a filter time car, so you're going to kiss his ass for the entire race. Oh, yeah. So you got to wreck all the filter time cars.

You know what it looks like you ever watched the tour de France and all the same bike guys are lined up together? That's what it looks like when they get out there. It's all line up behind Dale and just whatever Dale needs. We got it. It must be nice to be Dale. I mean, probably doesn't suck.

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Spot on. off. It goes like this. Spot on means you agree. I'm spot on. Are you joking me? He's lost his mind. Oh, and by the way, no one ever seems to agree. And then spot off means you disagree.

Spot off. Here we fucking go. This is the dumbest thing I've ever heard. But if you're TJ, um, uh, there's only one correct answer. I don't know. It's time. for spot on spot off first topic spot on spot off NASCAR doesn't throw a caution for brad kislauski but throws one quickly for christopher bell i know who i want hey i know who i want

let's let brett let's sit back and let tj get us called to the holler tj spot on spot off tj get us called to the holler finally so this goes back to the very first question you asked me why we hit the wall because we didn't want to caution um we got you hit the wall because you didn't want to caution? Yeah. We didn't want to bring the caution out so we got into the wall and then we got the pit road. I'm spot off because I mean, I don't know how I could be spot on for that. We, I don't know if I'm just supposed to stay on the racetrack and just till you decide to get the caution. Like, I think I'm doing the right thing, but then you got a guy that gets a flat that doesn't even, the 20 never hit the wall. Didn't even brought, didn't even get, I mean, he might have got close, but not even close to it.

Never touched the wall. Got low on the straightaway. I had to run a whole corner half of track high out of the way, trying to clear my guy low through traffic. the guy that gets the caution gets lowes out of the way and one off the corner and not even a factor and then.

But he was out of the way by the time he even got to the corner they had already thrown in the yellow. How many laps were in between this? Let's set the... Not many. Not many. So Brad doesn't get a caution

and then maybe five laps later? That's probably a little more now. Let's set the president here because let's set the reality of what happens. Kuzlowski has a tire problem and he nails the wall. Okay. Now he's riding around.

way slower than what you should ride around to be in a safe situation. Just trying to get down. Okay. The second, the very second that the 20 cut of tire, the tower said, caution's out debris in two. There is no way in hell they knew if there was debris there yet or not. Right? Am I right?

They were guessing. I am not. I'm not. Oh, here comes that. I'm not kissing NASCAR's ass. No. I am stating a quote from a NASCAR representative, which I want to get your thoughts on. Presentative.

Representative? Yes. representative. It's Christmas. She's going to walk out. Jason's get to finish the show. The 20 had... Pull together here.

Had lap cars around him and the six had a big enough lead, which is why they threw a caution for the 20. Who the fuck did you talk to? I don't know whoever told you that? Wait, is that word for word? On Twitter. My fourth. No.

Well, tell me... Oh my God. This is why I don't text him sometimes. No, it was a... I think he just tweeted it, but... He did tweet it. Oh, my. I'm just getting your thoughts on how I wrote that way.

So, he shouldn't tweet. So ask Mike, I would love to ask Mike, and I can text him right now and ask him, how many lap cars passed Brad before he got to pit road? A lot. Like, only half the field? I'm going to go and tell you. It was hard for me to get him down. Yeah.

He just got the video evidence here. If it's going to play. I watch it this morning. So I don't know if I'm spot on or spot off because it sounds like if Brad would have brought the caution out, we wouldn't have gone a lap down and we would have just been an elite lap. Yeah. But I'm also spot on for the cost of coming out because I was lucky dog. Who's around this guy?

All right. Here's a 20. Hang on. There's nothing around him. He's going into one. He's clear by 10 car links to Kyle Larson. Oh, there goes a tire. There's nobody around him.

Kyle Arson, Kyle Arson, he easily gets to the bottom. He's out of the way. You almost clobbered him, dude. What are you thinking? Brett, what were you doing? He said the 20 had three wide. Who were you texting at that time? barreling down on it.

He's a liar. You all, it's you. I understand you're presenting their side of it, but when their side of it's full of it's full of shit, then you can't, I mean, you can present it. You're an idiot. Can you please go on Twitter, TJ? No, I'm not getting it. Nope, the answer is no already.

Send that video to me and I'll send it to Mike. That was like a, that was the whole race video. Yeah, that, that, I'm not. I have been pulling the race thing. I mean, if you said there, I would love to see back down. Let's see it again. I want to see the three. Lab cars.

I mean, you don't have to show it to the camera. There was no three. I'm just looking for the three wide lap cars barreling down on the 20. I just go back in his knee, Cody Ware. It was you, Cody Ware and JJ? That's understandable. I mean, I mean, listen, I don't whether, I don't think either one of these situations merited a caution flag, but I can tell you what the case is.

You can't have one be a caution and not the other. And like the Brett's point, they immediately called debris from the tower. Not nobody in turn to said, take tower. There's debris over here. you better put it out. The second he got loose in the middle of one and two, the difference in these two accidents was the 20 car had sparks coming off of it and the six did not.

Like that was the essentially, that was the biggest difference in these accidents. As soon as the 20 got a flat, there was a little small shower of sparks off the right rear, and they panicked and through the yellow flag. The committee got this one wrong. I don't know. They went to the committee because the yellow came out so fast.

But listen, the implications of this, Kevin Harvick is hauling ass at this point. He's running down the leaders in a month. must-win situation. The 20 gets a flat. I think this bumps into second or third. And he's right there, you know, he's not far off of Kyle Larson with probably the fastest car at that point in the race. And in turn, in turn, now he comes down pit road as wheels fall off and his playoff hopes are done because of a caution that probably didn't need to come out. I'm spot on for everything Freddie just said. The reality is I don't understand. I agree. There's a car inside of Brad when he hits the wall.

He was clear. There was nobody around him. I am glad T.J. has all this video evidence to support the fact that the scenarios are very, very similar, and neither scenario warranted a caution. And it's just a shame that it changed the outcome of the race. I just would have liked a chance to fight for the top five if you're going to, you know what I mean? Yeah. Well, it's saved the 20s race.

It's when he never lost a lap. He came back out. He'd probably finished in the top five. I don't know where he ended up, fourth or fifth or something, third maybe even. How many other times did this happen? I mean, there were small car. All night guys blew right fronts and didn't get caught right. The only two cars that I remember getting in college front were the 11 when he got one.

He got one off a four and he slowed down. And he was slow on the front. He stopped. He didn't hit the wall. I don't think, but he basically stopped on the front straight away. Which I actually honestly thought that they, I was like,

oh, that might be a lap or something. They might penalize a lap. I think he was, I think he just stopped to keep it off the fence because it took off to the right. Well, he took off again after they threw the yellow. Oh yeah. You know what I mean?

You know what I mean? You know what I mean. He can do whatever he wants. he's pretty good I have not Casey gets Freddie about Hang on

I have not I have not got my new deal yet so he's only pretty good when you're at I think that's opposite of what you should be saying

Yeah I feel like you should be sucking up at this point No no I'm going to He's been He's great Yeah so. Hold on a minute

We ain't even heard from Justin He was driving in the race No I just said I mean He did say He talked about the I'm not sure

Where I stand on this Because if the caution Would have came out We would have been On the lead last Well you're right there But there's a driver Are you frustrated?

I was right behind Seabelle. Did you think that did you think that was a situation where we needed to instantly throw a caution flag? I don't know. I mean,

you narrowly miss it. You almost did your point. You got out of an opinion on here. We don't need two unopinion. Because I needed the lucky dog. And I got the lucky dog. And he said that before, Brett.

So you're happy. He was good with it. I have no words. He preferred, he would have preferred they threw it from Brad while he was on the lead lab and not the lucky dog.

That's where I stand. No, Loosened up as a show went on too, so we still got hope for you. I'm fine. I'm fine. I'm fine with it because we got down out of the way safely, and honestly,

it probably didn't deserve a caution. I got it. But the next one that doesn't, that's even less of a factory, gets a caution. That's the only issue. There were three wide behind them barreling down. The thing about it is,

is being a driver in the race, you almost know, like, the least amount of stuff that's going on. Like, I didn't even know it was a cutoff race. I mean, that might have been my fault. It's funny thing is, Brett probably didn't know.

I was like, Brett is this in cutoff race? And he's like, yeah. Like, oh, I should do my homework. Brett said, you probably said, Brett,

this is a cutoff race. He said, hold on. Let me text someone. Let me text somebody down. Let me text Bob. Let me text Bob and see what you. Bob is my go too.

All right, moving on, Freddie, your favorite person. Denny Hamlin tweets, we need next gen 2.0. Just got to figure out who's going to pay for it.

After at least one dozen playoff drivers faced durability issues at Bristol and he said passing was just impossible. Ready? Yeah. Denny's right. I think, well, I mean, it's hard to argue with the,

you obviously liked the race here today because you were in contention to win. I think that that was not one of our better Bristol races. I've seen better ones. It was just impossible to pass and you started running it. Listen, the issues we had, I think the blown tires were team related. You know, you saw a lot of it was Ford.

you know, and I think that's just... I'll tell you this, we had no issues all night. Yeah, you know, and, you know, that's a lot of... You just showed me an issue. I mean, we had no... Right front hit a wall. I mean, that's a small issue. We ran 125 laps on the first set, didn't have any sign.

And the tire is probably too gone to tell if it was a puncture. Well, I mean, I don't know. Well, we'll just call it a coincidence at all the Ford's blue right fronts. But, you know, and then, you know, the... There was steering rack issues. You know, obviously Toyota had a big issue. There was three or four of them that... that had a, I knew we or I know there was a seal blowing out of the rack on one of them on either to 45 or the 23.

Like there was issues with that, but I heard throughout the field, some other teams were, or four teams are having issues with that as well. But I think the bigger concern is just lack of passing. Like you almost started running this race backwards. Like you do with a road course, just try to get track position. You would flip a stage from 40 laps out, you know, cycle back to the lead and hold it. Like, well, you won the first stage without pinning, right? I mean, you do 125 laps.

25 laps. Bell, who's one of the best cars all night, was second, 60 lap, better tires, and couldn't do anything. We actually, at the end of that stage, we were starting to pull away from. We saw this on whenever we practiced Friday, but, you know, the guys went out there, ran 30, 40 laps, went in, let their cars, their tires cool down, went back out and went faster. And it's like, yeah, I'm like, did they put tires on or what's going on down there? I saw somebody ran a 38 and they were in like 50s. And I was like, whoa.

Yeah. Okay. So I qualified a 15-teen, so 15-1, something or somewhere around there, one-seven. And then, and during the race, like 300 laps in, I was running 15 fours. Yeah, it's like, so, you know, I'm fine laps. You just essentially ran the race like you were a road course where you just pit as soon as you're kind of in windows and get cycle back to the lead. I was shocked that everybody pit on that last caution when, when Bell, you know, had his issue. Like, we see it all night.

If you circle back to the lead, I mean, they were. I was surprised there was a caution. But, you know, I thought somebody, like Harvick's a must win. I wholeheartedly disagree with Denny on this. He wants a whole new car. I want two things. A tire that'll wear and more motor. I mean, Kevin Harvick tweeted last week, give us a thousand horsepower.

The problem within this race from where I stood for the entire weekend was how freaking fast corner speeds are, Justin. Like you guys are flat out ripping the center. Yeah, I could do with more horsepower. I feel like at a Darlington or New Hampshire or an officer. or an auto club, places where there's a lot of tire wear. Even at the end of a run, it's hard to spend the tires. I mean, it is. I mean, we just have a lot of tire and a lot of downforce and grip.

And, I mean, it's hard to, you know, step out. And, you know, you look at the races back in the mid-2000s. I mean, it was like they were half-throddled down the straightway at Charlotte. So, and honestly, this is a lot more horsepower than we had planned on running this year. I mean, we did that Charlotte. Yeah, that was a big. drivers kind of came together and we talked to NASCAR and we were like, hey, you know, I don't remember what they were wanting us to run, but we got way more horsepower than they

were wanting. So I still think we need another step in that direction. Because even at Bristol, I mean, you just drive in as hard as you can, let the thing set and then you're just wide open. And I even remember in the Xfinity car last year, you'd really have to manage your rear tires and, you know, use the throttle. So, yeah, I think we could use a lot more horsepower. I think this is going to be a race that a lot of these teams that have been clamoring for more practice is going to circle because you would have probably seen your tire issue.

Like, there's no way you can run as many laps to show up. That tire issue to show up in whatever we run 15, 20 minutes. Which we had in our pre-race meeting. But the weird thing is, in our pre-race meeting, in our lounge, everybody said guys are going to have tire problems. Yep. Yeah. So I disagree with you there. Because after practice, you know, the teams take the tires to Goodyear.

Good Year cuts them apart. Oh, yeah. Goodier says, hey, we don't like it. And I think the team's like, well, why don't you like it? And Goodier said, no. Like something like that. Isn't that how to win? But I like the stopwatch.

It looks great. Well, that's the problem. They chase. There's so many variables that go into, quote, quote, tire problems, right? And when you see one team or one manufacturer having these problems across the board, it may not be the tire. It might be you.

Who's been, who's been all year long, I felt like Ford's been a little behind everybody, right? I mean, I feel like they haven't had the general speed, and then we go out there and qualify on Friday, and it's all the Stuart House guys up front. They're hauling ass, and then all of a sudden, every one of them's got a tire issue.

Like, that's why I think that the tire issues lend themselves more teams versus any issues with the car itself. I know it's probably easier to say that we probably, I don't believe we saw, no indications of anything we were running. We run 125 that first run. Brad got no tire issues. Tires look great. Keep going. Like we were fully, we were making our

deals on fuel. We won't worry about tires. The only reason we ever pit was because we thought maybe the right front was going to blow. Not for speed, not for fuel. We only would pit. Just to be safe. We were looking to pick. We were looking to keep track position the rest of the race. Like we weren't pitting for. But I'm spot off on Denny's deal, though.

But to Denny's point, I'll play devil's advocate against myself. You and I were running around each other, which means Justin and Brad were running around each other. The caution came out. We elected to come get tires. We damn near got lapped by you, who we were racing before the caution came out. You won the stage. So like that's what I think when we talk about the track position thing, the more horsepower thing. Like you went from running 20th-ish to running freaking first solely because of track position. I know we weren't. I think we were like 10th. I don't think that's the way we want.

He was texting. I don't have a 10th. But actually, I don't think that's the way we want to see the sport. Yeah. And I don't know. I don't know that we want to see the sport go that way. And that was clear from the truck race. I mean, part of the Cleggerman ran wherever he ran all night.

The truck race. The truck, I almost felt bad for some of the guys in the truck race because Chandler Smith had the best truck. But he, he got caught in the playoffs. That was their first playoff race, I think, or cutoff. Cutoff. No, that was their first one. No, that was the first one. So at least that's not confusing for the fans to follow.

But, you know, he's dominating the race. Well, it's their first race. So he's got to chase stage points. He has to stay out. We had to plan the whole time. We're going to one stop. As long as the caution falls within these 30-lap window here, we're going to pit, there's a 200-lap race.

We're going to pit any time after lap 80 and stay out the rest of the race. And we cycled back. Like, we ran, I don't know, 12, 13th into stage, forfeited any stage points. And then cycled back to the top five where Chandler won the stage. he won both stages, I think. Yeah. But then had a pit on the stage break and never, I think he finished ninth.

He never even got back up in there because, never relevant again. But those tires knew. I mean, if he can win both stages doing that, then you know them. You're setting yourself up for having to fight the traffic at the end. Oh, yeah. I'm saying, that's what we were preventing that. But he was in a bar, you know, he was like the point of the playoffs guys, we talked about in our cup meeting, like the playoff guys are in a box.

They have to put themselves in a bad position for later in the race because they're forced to change stage points. That's what the stages do, though. Yeah. But it's just, it's just unfortunate that, you know, it's so. track dependent, track position dependent, that you're kind of throwing your chances to win the race away

just because you got to chase some points. So we have less motor, more tire, and more down force. Are you concerned how the Martinsville elimination race can play out based on that Bristol one?

I'm not concerned about it at all. Going to that Martinsville test, Justin was there testing. I was there. We had a test? We, listen, all we did for two days

was get everybody closer together, I think. know like we already saw no passing the first race they're not they're making very minimal changes to the tire i think uh i didn't notice really any different to the test and i think all you did was give everybody two days to make that box even smaller to where we're all even closer to the same speed so i'm not i'm not super optimistic about putting on a great race down there the first race was just like he said you go in there as hard as you can stop it and chase elliot ran us down we were on the tail in the lee lap i don't know where we were running probably midteens or something he ran us down and got behind us and followed us for like 60 laps because he couldn't get around us. How do you feel, Justin, about all the shifting and all these places? Does it need to go away? Yeah. I mean, I don't, I think at a mile and a half on a restart, like, it's cool. You know, you can use the bottom down, shift, a fourth. I think shifting every lap at Martinsville is a little aggressive. I mean, I don't know if I need to do that, but, um. You're shifting because,

I mean, like, but, but I don't know, I say that. F1 guys. I mean, you know, you look at what they do on a qualifying lap of their steering wheel. They're adjusting all kinds of stuff. So it's just not, it's new. So I don't, you know, we don't like it because it's new. I think a lot of the guy, like, listening to some of Danny's comments and even Bubba, like the margin of error is a lot bigger now because you can go in the corner and blow the corner

and just downshift and drive off to where before you lost all that momentum for the whole next straightaway and the guys would have runs on you. Now it's just like, oh, drop a gear and take off and you're good to go. Like similar to the Coliseum, we ran second gear. Martin's really don't even run. fifth gear you go from force to third um i think is it because of the horse i guess i just did a two-day test there and i don't know is it because of the horsepower change though because like you said we went up in horsepower from where we originally were at that 590 mark up into the 675ish

mark like is that what happened is the gear ratio was already set and when they gave us more horsepower it opened this window well so i believe it's already i don't know i think that they i think that they were, oh, I think they wanted this. I think that they thought maybe this, you know, like, I don't think this is a surprise. Well, I believe we're in a box of what we can do. Yeah, like, you can only do so much and then. Like, I think, because we use the same transactal from the Coliseum to Daytona and Sonoma and everywhere else. So I think there's only so much we can do inside that box. I think they missed a lot of marks with this car and they need to own it and they need to make shifts. I mean, when you look at Jerry Freeze last week, who was on Kelly's podcast, and he said all

this money, we thought we were going to save teams is a lie. we're spending more money than ever, which you expect to do year one, because essentially it's a startup business. You got to reinvent the wheel. But based on what he's saying in terms of his alliance with Rouse Fenway, Kozlowski racing and the way it used to be advantageous economically versus where it's at now is that's not the case and they're spending more money than ever. He literally said, don't tell my owner because he doesn't want the owner to know how much

money you spend it because obviously that's who's writing the check. So if we're not, if this car isn't going to be economically justifiable, then hey, let's spend some money and fix it. I don't like the fact that we're shifting at Martinsville, but just because of how I grew up around sport. Like, I'm not a fan of that. I don't like that we can't really spend the tires off the corners at these tracks. No, that's kind of what I'm saying. Yeah, I don't like, like Richmond, you should be able to buzz the thing and that should be the guy that takes care of it because that creates comers and goers. You got this guy that's using his stuff up, but doesn't know it.

I mean, look at North Wilkesboro in that Lemaugh race. Dale Jr. slid back to 9th or whatever. And then drove past him because he saved enough tire. No, did Dale Jr. drive past him because they let him by? No, they were actually. Yeah. They actually, I will say this conversation earlier. Those guys actually raced.

I think they, he hadn't. I'll tell you what. Oh, my God. Did you hear what I told him? 14 did not let Dale go. I can tell you that much. And he'd come by one time and as like he passed three or four of him, his number went from three to zero three zero zero.

because he had more donuts on the side of his car. Oh, no. Oh, yeah. Dale deserve that. I liked a new car. I'm not sure he didn't inflict most of them. He was the one using him up. It's good because we're not getting rid of it, probably.

I love it. It's fun to drive. I mean, it just needs a little work, right? I mean, it's new. But do the work. That's what I'm saying. Do the work. I love this car too.

I thought it was cool. It's great. But like you guys said, like we can't be coming off corner and you're not buzz the right rear. It's a new car, though. I mean, there's going to be like you said, there's still things that we can do. We had a Legends car race at Charlotte.

There's things that we can fix still that are fixable. Yeah. You know, so I actually like the car. I actually think the car is pretty good. It's a pretty race car. What I was trying to get out earlier is Alex Bowman and a few other drivers during the broadcast after they had their issues mentioned, you know, a lot of the things that are going wrong with the car, they can fix. They're just not allowed to. So is that something, are you hoping, or will NASCAR talked about being able to allow teams to make the changes if they go to ask for approval or?

I think you've seen a lot of those comments from guys in the Hendrick camp that dominated the season last year. And they would like to get back to dominating the season next year. So they would like to make their own parts again. And they'd like that box to open up a little bit more. And I don't think NASCAR is going to let that happen. Joe Gibbs, Hendrick, were 100% against the way to your point, this new car went because they lost control. And the richer children's of the world loved the direction of where this new car went. well, they won three races this year.

It worked out well for them. So, no, I mean, I think Freddie's proven a great point. You're not going to see it go back to where the teams have full control in all the areas where they did. Now NASCAR has full control. I mean, you're going to see NASCAR make changes. We saw them make a change two weeks ago with, you know, trying to help them fires for the forward guys. So if there's an issue, they're going to, I mean, they know there's problems. It's not a secret.

You know, they're never going to go out. They're just going to have to be, you know, make changes on the fly to make things better. But they're never going to just go, all right, you know, but just like opened up Pandora's box again and you guys can do whatever the hell you want because that's exactly what we're trying to get away from. And the other thing too is no matter how great this car was or how perfect it was, we were going to complain. Like we're race car drivers.

Every single one of us is selfish and, you know, you know how we are. Like we're race car drivers and we want the best for us. So no matter what we were always going to find and they put themselves in that position. I mean, it's just how it is. But now we can blame it. Now we can blame them. I just hope it's a productive offseason. I hope we don't get to January 1st and it's crickets, you know?

Brandon Jones doesn't move Noah Gregson for the Xfinity series win after announcing he's taking over the nine next season and said that didn't cross his mind one time. Come on a f*** off. Justin. I would have liked to see him move him. I mean, it's, I was kind of waiting for it. Like, he chased him down, he ran him down. Everybody in the sport was. He's already signed the contract.

You know, maybe if it was the contract week, you know, be a little nicer, but... What's the exfany points? Is he, like, is there anything... It was a cutoff race. But I'll tell you what... It was a cutoff for the start of the playoffs. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was the end of regular season.

Yeah, well, yeah. It was the end of the regular season. Let me ask you this, Justin, as a race car driver, you have a chance to win Bristol. You've just ran a guy down on a hundred lap better tires. Is there any way you're losing that race? No, absolutely not, unless I mess up. Yeah. But I'm trying...

1,000% to get Matt College You talk about the points You know, listen, he can say whatever he wants It didn't cross his mind, well not You don't let five points go like that Like that's five playoff points So you can carry on into the next season. Not only do you leave five points on the table

Next to the playoffs season. Maybe he's trying to keep those points for the night next year. Yeah, that carries over. Keep him for the post season, sorry. But not only do you leave those five points on a table but now you give them to the championship favorite. Like that's,

the biggest issue for me. Like this guy just won three races in a row. It's a 10 point swing against Brandon Jones. Yeah. You just get, instead of keeping these five or taking these five, I should say, we talk about it on here all the time. Like do what you got to do. Maybe, maybe he wasn't confident in his ability to move the guy without, you know, maybe it looked too and he's brushing the wall. Yeah. And you drive right by him. Because he's ready to run. He's ready to run the top. He's not going to wreck. You're just going to knock him into the fence and take off. That's what Noah's thinking, going into three at Darlington, too. I'll never move this. All he had to do was do what Noah did to Ty Gibbs and Sheldon Creed and it would have been gone.

That's exactly what I was going. I'm spot off because Noah's already shown he's going to do what it takes to get to the front although I don't think Noah meant to wreck. No, I think he didn't mean to wreck him, but he did so I think Noah already knows and he's won the last two races. There's no way you're leading that race with somebody

beating your bumper and not expecting some sort of contact to try it for the win of the race. At Bristol. At Bristol. I mean, one little and Noah's going to brush the fans, you turn anything and then you go buy him. I don't know how you don't do that. I can tell you because he's driving that car next year

but what does it matter? Well, you don't want to piss off your crew chief You're already signed the contract You're not wrecking him You're not wrecking him. I listen. Yeah, I mean he's still finished his second. You're preaching to the choir.

I love Junior Motorsports. Maybe I'm wrong. I love Kelly Earnhardt. I love Dale Jr. Why is this guy leaving Gibbs? Junior's been pretty fast this year. Yeah, JRMs. They're flying. But okay, you're leaving

one of the fastest organizations and there's only really three in the Xfinity series to go to another one. So where do you go after this? Listen, this? You keep picking your shit up and moving. Where are you eventually going to go? Home.

Thank you. Glad somebody said it. You know, this is, he's been, he came in at RCR, right? He came in at RCR. Went to Gibbs. Now he's going to JRM. Like, you've kind of, he was at Toyota. Did you go to KBM?

Did he run to KBM trucks? I think he did, right? Like a little bit. Like, so he's kind of checked a lot of boxes off here. I mean, if I'm Brandon Jones, my career path is to get to the Cubs series. It's not to keep bouncing around in the fastest cars in the Xfinity series.

I don't understand what the play here is. I mean, does he think he's going to replace somebody at Hendrick in the next three years? Like, again, I'm not this guy's advisor. I don't know. So anyway, I'm spot off the fact that he left Gibbs to begin with. A huge spot off here for me on every single crew chief that said Pitt when that caution come out

that was in on the lead lap. Justin Algeyer gave the race away twice. A, he pitted, and B, after he pitted, he sped. I think he would have won the race, though, pitting, though. He didn't have a chance to win the race because he sped. So he made two errors. He said he was in third gear, right? He was in the wrong gear.

He ran third gear on pit road. Either way, I don't care if he runs forward. It's still sped. So, A, you made two bad calls. One, you pitted, and B, you sped. I don't understand why a guy, and I hate to say this, I don't understand why a guy like AJ Amandinger pitted right there. You got a chance to go win the race if you stay out and you're on the front row.

I don't understand why the last guy on the lead lap pitted right there, right? I mean, we saw Bailey Curry, I think he was driving a four car the other night. If he wasn't, I don't know who was. But we saw that guy come out with the lead to start stage three. He settled in about fourth or fifth and ran there for a really long time in a car that we all know is not fast. It does not have brand new brakes and brand new everything on it. It is an old race car, right? So I think all the crew chiefs right there were complete pansies.

I think they completely missed the mark on doing their job by telling all those guys to pit. So that's what I'm spot off. I sit over the radio. I can't believe all the media is just pitted. I think Justin wins a race who doesn't speed, though. I do. It doesn't matter what you think because he pitted any spend. Well, it don't matter what you think he even.

And caused caution. And caused a caution. What I think happened is the guy won. I sat over the radio, no Gregson is going to win this race. Get what happened. He won the race and he puked. It's a good thing, Brett, is in a crew chief. You know how many wins he'd be in?

Hundreds. He'd be in the Hall of Fame already. Already. He already thinks it should be in the Hall of Fame, honestly. Him and Eminem and be up there. First spotter in the Hall of Fame. Mount Rushmore of Crew Chiefs. Dale Inman and Brett Griffin.

What do you think Ray Everettam learned everything from? Listen, and to Noah's credit, man, he's gone out here these last three weeks and won three races and now he's built himself a 30-point cushion to fifth place. He's got like 55 bonus points. Something crazy. He's got something stupid like 13 or 14 stage wins. He can probably miss a full race and still make every round. I mean, it's only a 30 point gap to fifth right now.

But yeah, that's essentially a full race. I mean, that's a cent, you know, that's somebody's got to go out, run top five and he followed out to beat him to pass him. And that's a guy that's fifth or sixth in points. So that's going to be tough for them to do. But, you know, it's, what the, think about it, that was a, that was a 15 point cushion three weeks ago that he had to fifth place. Now he just doubled it in three weeks.

And then we talked about that penalty early in the year when he wrecked the guy. It cost him second the regular season. You know, he finished third. That 50-point penalty cost him second place. So that's a little bit more points they gave up there. But this last three weeks, he's been incredible. I love the Xfinity series. And I grew up really only a Cup Series fan.

I mean, I would be at the racetrack. We'd camp on the infield. I would watch the Bush Series races from there. But you were watching to see what Delle Earnhardt did or what Daryl did or what Michael Waltrip did, right? some of the cup guys that were running. The Xfinity series right now is some of the best racing in the world. Week in, week out, I love the distance of the races.

I love the fact that it's go time all the time. You can't just go out there and manage the race. You got a freaking go. The only thing I don't like is two breaks in the action. I'd rather us see a halftime in that series versus two breaks because I think I love Green Flag Pit stops. We're never going to see that in Xfinity series unless something crazy happens with the way these things are laid out.

Really rare. Yeah. Really rare. All right, moving on. Richard Childes Racing officially announces Kyle Bush to the 8 and says they plan to run Tyler Redick in a third charter next season. Spot on, spot off Brett. Spot on Richard Childers Racing. Obviously, you gained a gigantic talent.

You gained a stud. Kyle is 37 years old, I believe. And if I am Richard Childress, I think he is a stud until he's 45. Is that fair? I would say at the early side, 43, but yeah, I mean. So you got a six to seven year plan here on this guy. In racing, we do everything realistically in the driver world in two to three year increments. So he's got a double shelf life in terms of what contracts look like.

You don't have to worry about like what we said last week. Is it the car? Is it the driver? You're going to know the driver's getting you everything that he can out of it. So I'm spot on for that. I'm spot off for the direction and the distraction that I think he's created with his comments about Tyler Redick and the fact that he's going to run him in a third car because from an economics perspective that gets really expensive okay because you're going to have to add people

guess what that's expensive you're going to have to get a charter that means buy or lease that's expensive you're going to have to find funding because that third car is not funded right to go out and run the way that richard children's racing runs and i realize rCR builds our own motors but at the end of the day, everything operates on about a $10 to $15 million budget. So is he going to be willing to go out and spend that kind of money to run Tyler Reddick in a lame duck situation, or is this a great big, gigantic PR move? That's my question for, you got such a great day. Why let the narrative go to Tyler Redick and be about what you plan to do, Justin, or not do with him? Because I don't see the advantage. Yeah, I mean, this is a lot of this, this comes up in

racing a lot where it's believe none of what you hear and about half of what you see. This is the gamesmanship here is basically you're looking at you're looking at RCR going well we're not going to let him go and 2311 going that's all right we don't need them. You know we've got curtain. If Kurt don't run we've got another guy we can put in there next year so you can keep them and I think this just comes down to basically who blinks first. Now like I know you talk about the expense of it there is a less expensive option for him if he really wants to make Tyler sit over there and that's just stick him in a 78 car. You know, they have the people, they have a team.

It doesn't have to, you know, they have an alliance with RCR. He can lease the charter for essentially giving him engines all year long and just kind of stick Tyler over there and go, hey, enjoy your last year over here. You know, you're not going anywhere. So then, and like I said, Danny has options because they're hopeful Kurt's

coming back, obviously. That's their primary plan is to get Kurt back in the 45 next year. If that doesn't happen and if Tyler still stuck at RCR, they have a guy, sitting there waiting in the wings to get in that 45 car. And so it's basically just who's going to blink first here, in my opinion. You know, is RC so spiteful over what happened with Tyler that he's willing to just dump some money into the 78 team for a year, which I don't think it's going to be, I think it's

essentially going to be Tyler, you go drive the 78 and we, quote unquote, lease a charter to give the 78 engines. Richard Childress Racing has to fill the car for Tyler Redd. Okay, so they put R.CR on it. Per its contract, right? So if I'm Richard Childress and I'm a Hall of Fame owner who, employed Dale Earnhardt forever. Kevin Harvick, Clint Boyer, now Kyle Busch.

Do I really want one of my cars to go around and ride around last all day? I mean, that's how you're going to finish his legacy out? You shouldn't. You shouldn't, but you might. Justin, what do you think? I'm spot on. A spot off, first of all, for losing Tyler, right? Tyler's obviously really good, and I've worked with him since he came to RCR.

with our alliance. A spot on, I think Kyle can bring a lot to Chevrolet in general and a lot to our campus over at RCR with colleague and hopefully it helps us be faster. TJ? Just kind of what Brett said. Richard did a, RCR is going to be,

that's big for them to get Kyle. So congrats to them. That's an A driver you're getting and going to be competitive with him. But it's just going to be so awkward with the rest of this stuff. Like it's got to be, it's already awkward this year some, and it's going to get worse. So I would just cut ties with it and be done. I mean, your organization had two teams in the playoff in the postseason and the cup series.

They both fell out first round. Your focus needs to be based on building freaking something special. And in our world, whether everybody likes this or not, the team who spends the most money is typically the team who goes the fastest. It's just how this sport has worked since I've been in it. Getting Kyle's the start. Getting Kyle is the start to going fastest. So do you really want to be playing this Tyler Reddick game into November, into December, into the offseason? It could go long. It could go long, right? So do you really want to be playing this game or do you really want to focus on next year winning again and going deeper into the postseason? Because this Tyler Reddick thing is going to

become a distraction. If it's not already, it was a distraction at the freaking press conference when you announced your new guy. Yeah. The first question you're getting asked about in your Kyle Busch press conferences, what's going on with Tyler Redick is already an issue. I'd have said, I don't care where Tyler Reddick goes. He can get the hell out of here right now. Good luck, Tyler.

Because now, guess what? It's Tyler's problem to find a ride. Because to your point, that's Kurt Busch's car. Yeah. If he comes back, Tyler, like put it on Tyler and be like, hey, dude, have fun, man. See you. You wanted to leave. So guess what?

Get the shit out of here. Yeah, you out. you know, one of the things I think is interesting is, me and you talked about this the other day, Kyle Bush has never really had to do more with less. You know, he's always kind of been

in the bed shit in the garage. No, that's wrong. You're wrong. When he started his affinity team. But how long did that last? And that's what I'm saying. But I'm just saying, like the second he didn't have what he felt like he needed, he quit.

You're going to a team now, where you left one of the best, you left one of the best organizations in the sport. Before that, you were at Hendrick, the other best organization in the sport. Before that, you were in, you know, did he ever run a rouse truck race? I know he was going to and then they changed the age limits,

but that was rouse trucks who were dominating at the time. You know, so he's never really had to, the one time he had to fend for himself, he quit. So it's going to be interesting to see how he does. And by no means is the eight car, not a good car, but it's not, I don't think it's a great car. and we'll see if he can if he can turn that ship around and make it a great car. But there's also other dominoes.

You know, we saw, you know, that one of the questions came up about KBM, which obviously is going to switch to the Chevrolet and then they'll have to find some drivers because Toyota's obviously going to pull their Toyota funded drivers back to their themselves. And I've seen a lot of people questioning, oh, this is such a big hit for Toyota. You know, Toyota's going to suffer for this. No, not really, in my opinion, because they basically funded KBM. So all Toyota's going to do is take that money and go fund somebody else. David Gillen, one of these other...

I think the opposite happens. I think Chevrolet pulls money from existing programs that are in that. I don't think Chevrolet just comes up with $5 million from another budget to give Cowbush Motorsports. I think Chevrolet pulls back resources from some of its other teams to be able to afford to get Cowbush Motorsports. 100%. I'm just saying like Toyota's not going to, this is not going to really... It's an opposite effect. People are missing it.

They're missing the boat. Yeah, it's actually hurting Chevrolet more than it's hurting Toyota. the lower series teams anyway. But yeah, all Toyota is going to do. I mean, there's teams out there where they fund Thorisport more. They get a guy like David Gilden to switch back to Toyota because he was a Toyota team, went back to Ford. You know, there's teams out there.

I mean, they could talk Danny into starting a damn truck team because it's going to be fully funded. Toyota's going to put all their backing behind it and to get, make sure they have a pipeline for these young guys, the buddy cofoids of the world that are coming up that they need to have seats for that they're going to have to go and then Toyota's going to make sure they have a place to go. People need to understand that just because you see a manufacturer on a car, it doesn't mean they do a lot for you.

Yeah. Right? There are teams that it does. So if you're Hendrick Motorsports and your Chevrolet, they're giving you everything. They're giving you millions of dollars. They're giving you tons of company cars. They're giving you whatever you want in terms of back in the day, what would be wind tunnel time and those types of things. Then there are Chevrolet teams that only get company cars for their drivers.

And then there are Chevrolet teams who don't get a damn thing, right? So there is a very big scope, right, Justin? Am I wrong? Yeah, I mean, like, how much Chevy support do you think Spire gets? None. I mean, maybe some. I don't know. But not much.

They ain't getting much. But there it is, right? There's a tier program. Yeah. So it's definitely different. I think the question is if I'm a reporter in this garage, I'm going to walk around and I'm going to ask TJ at Spire. I'm going to ask Dell Jr.

in the Xfinity series owner. is Chevrolet going to cut your budget? Are they going to hurt? Where are they getting this money from? It's going to hurt somebody, I think. I mean, to your point about that, we used to go to Chevy meetings, and Justin was probably in some of them at Spire. Like, we would go to the Daytona or Talladega Chevy meeting,

and it would be like, okay, here's a list of these guys are going to roll off in this position off of pit road and practice. And then these guys down here, you make sure you can get in line with this if you want, but you're going to fall under the back and just let these guys do what they've got to do. It was teared there. Yeah, I mean, everything there is tiered. So it's to your point. I saw a lot of people just harping on the fact that, oh, my God, this Toyota's really going to take a hit here by losing KBM.

And I think it's, like you said, I think it's the other way around a little bit. I'm a big fan of RCR making this move, though. Huge, huge, huge move for them. I think they get Kyle Busch at probably a below market rate compared to where obviously he was this past year. And it's only good things for them going to come out of this. NASCAR releases the 2023 Cup schedule eight weeks before the end of the season, despite only making two track changes. Brett, I know you have a few comments here, spot on, spot off. I just don't understand what took so long.

You add as... Yes, you do. I don't. I truly don't. You're two changes where Road America's gone. It's getting... We're going to Chicago, July 4th. Okay.

And North Wilkesboro replaces the All-Star Race of Texas. You had some other really small changes like it used to be we went from Richmond to Martinsville to Bristol Dirt. Now we're going Richmond, Bristol, Dirt to Martinsville. Insignificant. who is over this schedule because and who is it first of all I'd love to have a conversation with them put the damn schedule out and put all-star race to be determined beside of it once you had all these other things in place and were keyed up put the schedule out it doesn't make sense to me to

to wait to to the point of what Jason put on this show sheet we're a couple months from the season being over and you're just now getting schedule out like put this thing out how long have you been working on budgets for your sponsors um for seven weeks Yeah, and we literally budgets are due next week. So it's really hard to. And look, man, when you're looking at that to your point, you say, how much money do we have? Okay.

And then you say, what can we buy and where can we buy it? Well, what do you think cost more money? The Daytona 500 or North Wilksboro All-Star Race? I would assume the Daytona 500. The Daytona 500. What do you think costs more money? Bristol Dirt Race or the Coke 600? Ooh.

Coke 600. So when I look at it, this. It's hard. It's really hard on sponsors and people like myself who make a living going out there and creating activation and experiential marketing around our sports. I think living as a spotter. But no, that's fun money. But the reality is just this, put the schedule out. If there's some unknowns, leave it unknown because you have tracks that are out there selling tickets anyway for next year because they have to because the races seven races away. Right. So just put schedule out. Yeah. I mean, to your point, obviously we know. We know.

what the holdup was on their end. Like whether or not you agree with whether or not there should have been a holdup. The holdup was NASCAR, signing off on North Wilkesboro, whether the surface was good or not. They saw how that revival went. They said that the surface was in great shape. And the second we got done with that NASCAR race there,

we're trying to get this All-Star race and more moved. You know, so that's what happened there. But I mean, I love, I love the truck schedule. I think the truck schedule is awesome. They only go to one track twice. I think it's Kansas. I hate the expensive.

schedule. They have a quarter of their races at road courses, which I think is unnecessary. But in the cup schedule is kind of like we suck. It's the same essentially, you know, trade out the Chicago street race, which I'm not a big fan of. And North Wilkes where I'm obviously looking forward to. But I love the truck schedule, added Milwaukee. But that the deal of eight road course races and 32 race or 33 races, the Xenity series, I think is way too much. It's a big part of the schedule. Yeah, I don't know. It doesn't, I don't really, It seems a little late for this schedule to be out, but I don't necessarily. You know, we might go to Chicago and it might be a great race.

I don't know. I mean, we all. We won't know because we won't see it. I mean, it could be a really fun time, though. We might leave Chicago and you were kind of the same way. You weren't sure about the Coliseum, and it turned out to be pretty good. So I won't bash it until we go there and try it out. But don't they go back to Portland, right?

Exactly does, yeah. And then they're going right from Portland to Cincinnati. Sonoma. Phnomah. Yeah. So at least there's... At least there's two weeks you get to go out there and hang out.

It's tough if you wreck your primary road course car, though. Justin, how do you feel about the schedule change in terms of? Bob Pockish usually knows everything. And I was trying to get Bob to give me some insight on the schedule, and he wouldn't give it to me. Or he didn't know it. So I kind of got some insight on it.

I sent him a rough draft, and he's like, I don't think this is right. I don't see us running all these road courses to end the regular season. That's what we're doing. It's indie road course, right? I mean, it's the roval. It's the roval. It's indie.

Walkins Glen Dickson. Like it's a bunch of, like how do you feel about us being an Oval Series and then at the end of regular season we're throwing all these road courses at you guys? I mean, are we an Oval Series?

I mean, we're kind of transitioning away from it, right? More short tracks. Yeah, I like road courses. Personally, it's, I mean, I wouldn't say it's all what NASCAR is built on. So it's tough there. But I think for the schedule, you know, I thought since we were waiting so long for it to come out,

I thought there was going to be more changes, and it was kind of the same. So either way, I'm going to show up in a race. I mean, I'm young, right? I'm 23 years old and in the Cubs series. Last three races are regular season. Indy Road course, Watkins Glen, Daytona. That's three wild cards.

Yeah, wild card, wild card. And you better enjoy the Indy Road course because you ain't going to run that again. it'll go back to the Oval next year. It's going back to the Oval. Because it's the 30th anniversary of NASCAR. And you guys just know everything here, huh? I mean.

We try. It's like I live under a rock. Thanks to Harvick. Oh, this is an opinion-based show, by the way. What do you guys think of this being really, 20-23 being the final year of the two-mile layout for Auto Club? I know we're talking about more short facts. You know, I don't, I'm still waiting.

I believe anything. Like I told you, believe none of what you hear and half of what you see. We were already supposed to be on the short track. track at Auto Club. So listen, we'll run the two-mile race there. I think where's out? I think that place is awesome. I think that place puts on one of the best races. Like, if you're not going to give me Homestead for the final race in the year, give me California. Like that race, like that race. That would be a sick. Yeah. Like, just, I don't know. Inside, three outside. I'm not, yeah, I'm not, I'm not by, until I see that that place has

become a short track. I'm not believing it until it happens. Why don't they start? Like a short track inside it. Well, that's what they're doing. Like, why not? doing it. Essentially, that's what they're doing. They're leaving the front stretch transstands and using the front straightaway and kind of making pit road. It's, but I don't know. I'll tell you one thing I found ironic about the schedule coming out and North Wilkesboro getting the All-Star race. Like if you remember what was 26 years ago or so, North Wilkesboro lost their date to go to Texas. And now here we are 26. Later, Texas is losing a date to go

back to North Wilkesboro. So it's funny how things turn around. It's the same thing that happened with Darlington Fontana. We left Darling, on Labor Day to go to Fontana and that didn't work so what do we do? We came back home. Yeah, do you think this will be the last race at Texas on this configuration?

I think on this configuration, yes. And I think that I think that that's that played a role in moving that date because now you run Texas now and now you basically have a year as opposed to six months, eight months, whatever would have been. What are they configuring it to?

I hope and I think that the drivers hopefully can get them, Justin might know more about this because he might be a little more inside. He's playing dumb a lot. But, you know, I don't think the drive. I think they grew up me. I don't, I don't think the drivers want another Atlanta. It's just, you know, I don't, I don't think so.

I don't know if that matters. There's one of 36. What's that? Wants it? Yeah, well, Joy probably agrees with you too. I think a majority of the drivers are trying to petition to, we don't want another Atlanta on his schedule. Yeah, what do we want?

What do you get? I don't, I know what you don't want is what we got. Just let's ask it, what do we want? What are you what do you want? If you, if you were, Tell me what I want. If you were, I need you to tell me. It's already two different race tracks.

There's a big track around about a while that we don't even run. I want a Texas truck race. So if you, if you want to, if they reconfigure Texas, you would hope it would go to something like Atlanta? Yeah. I think so. Especially we're still having two Kansases. I miss the old Texas.

Do you need to re? I never raced old Texas. Oh, Texas was awesome. Never. It was awesome. It was awesome. Do you need to. reconfigure Texas to make it race like Atlanta?

I mean, do you need to do a full repave? With the rules package that you could, because we have a different rules package we run at Atlanta versus what we run at Kansas. Yeah, no, you need to. I think you need to fix it. You see the entry to one. Banking.

You need to. Three and four would be okay. Yeah. I just don't understand what they were doing with turns one and two. Like, why is it so wide? Like, why? Remember the first laps there?

No, he went there. I remember McMurray was the first one. He went into the corner, like, didn't even turn. I'm like, oh, he's going the wrong one. He missed a corner. I remember telling Bubba. I was like,

so they're turning at the start finish line. They get on the yellow line and start finish line. Because if you have 1% of arc into the corner, you're spinning out. So I had Tell Jr. And I'm like, look, when you got to turn, where I was like, start turning, turn, turn, turn. And then you're like, oh, whoa, it's way down here. It's like, oh, that's deceiving. Yeah.

Yeah, that was, that was ill-conceived, to say it politely. Yeah. They got that. They could get rid of that grass down there, too. That ruined one of my races there. ruined it. That was after a rain delay too. We stayed all day and then you blew.

I think like we stayed all day the next day and then the first lap of the race you blew the whole nose off the thing to get out of there really. You guys were home. Back to the schedule because we didn't cover all the things. One weekend off all year. Yeah.

Spot on. Spot off. Spot on. Let's race. Shut up. Give it to the fans. Fans want to see racing every week. They can have it.

What do I have? What am I going to do on an off weekend? Another Bristol being on Easter again. Yeah. I don't like that. Bristol on Easter Sunday, a dirt track race at night on Easter Sunday. They move Mother's Day.

They move Mother's Day to Darlington from Kansas. You say spot on, but how are you going to get to see your mom, Freddie? I'll go see your mom, I guess. I don't know. My mom lives halfway between here. Thank God. But like if your mom doesn't live with you,

you're not going to see your mom on Mother's Day. So why can't we race on Saturday night before Easter? Why can't we race on Saturday night before Darlington? Because the 500,000 more people can watch. We're a family sport is what I've heard my whole life, and I truly believed it until we started making these schedule changes. And we're still a family sport, but just not for the families in the sport. I was having a conversation with Trent yesterday,

because Colleague Racing, I'll publicly announce this. Colleg Racing is looking for talented men and women to come to work there. And Trent and I were talking about it. It's hard right now. We had Brian Murphy on the show a few months ago talking about how hard it is right now to find talented, experienced people in our sport. A lot of people have left, and it's because of stuff like this. And if they haven't left, they're on five-year contracts.

Like the people, the engineers. Like, it doesn't matter how much money Matt Collick has. If we can't hire anyone, we can't. I mean, we have what, maybe 30 employees at our cup shop? Maybe, I don't know. Like, it's not much. We just can't. We just can't.

Like, there's no one. Meanwhile, Gibbs has 100 engineers. I mean, it seems like it. Yeah, I'm literally. I mean, Hendrick has 500 employees. right. They have more engineers and we have people.

Colley doesn't have 500 employees. No. No. We can't find a bike to work now. Maybe if you add in all of Matt's companies. If you take all Chris's personalities. You add in leaf filter, leave home,

all of his companies together, he's got 500. So how many more years for the Olympics? Two more. So that's what we'll get on another off week. The thing that bothers me is like we, like Brett talks about it. It's obviously ratings based.

But not only do we lose an off weekend. We lost a Saturday night. They've moved the Martinsville Saturday and I race to Sunday. So that's another Sunday off. We were talking about this the other day at where were we, Kansas? Like, why are we racing heads up against week one of NFL football? I was just about to say that. I think it was Chase Elliott mentioned in an interview.

He thinks the season should end when NFL starts. Yeah. I mean, that would be difficult, I think. That's a lot. But why not do? It could be earlier for sure. My favorite time, I hate to say this, my favorite time of the year of the race is the fall.

Yeah. Temperatures are great. I don't mind that. But we don't have to go head to head. with them every single week. We know what their big weeks are. What's on Wednesday? I'm going to tell you what's on Wednesday ratings. We did it. We tried it. Our ratings are junk. I mean, I know it was during COVID, but we tried it and I was man, TJ, I was all for it because I would love a West Coast swing where we run Saturday night Phoenix, Wednesday, Fontana, and then the next Sunday is Vegas. That would be freaking 10 days off. Yeah, 10 days, one ticket, go to all three races. That would be phenomenal.

but our Wednesday ratings, the Thursday ratings, suck. Why don't you draft up a schedule? I would love to see a Brett Griffin drafted up schedule. It's only going to have Daytona and Bristol on it. We're not going to go anywhere else. J.R. Houston, one of my engineers, and we sat in the trailer.

They were sitting in the trailer and they were asking my opinion on some stuff. And they drew up a schedule. Like, it was the end of last year maybe. But yeah, it was. If I drew it up, it would just be Daytona. Just Daytona. Here's what I would do. In all seriousness, in all seriousness, in all seriousness, here's what I'd do.

I'd run 10 races. take a week off. Run 10 races, take a week off, run six races in your regular season, take a week off. You got three weeks off, then run your playoff straight through. That's what I'd do.

Awesome. Back in the day when we had that Wednesday races, I don't ever tweet like, when was this? It was COVID-year. You were here, you just weren't here. I mean, you were probably in them. You guys know I've never ran a NASCAR race

without a stage or a caution clock. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Caution clock. Remember that caution, clock. Oh my God. I've never ran a NASCAR race without a stage break.

So, right. When we were talking about NFL and how they were going head to head with NASCAR releasing their schedule, what, right before the season ends, what happens with NFL and other, even like midget racing, they're trying to work on their schedule right now and trying to align with certain markets. NASCAR releases their schedule. How does that work with other series? Are they working together?

Have you heard anything about that? If I'm NASCAR, I don't care, right? I mean, I hate to be that. But you just said that they shouldn't go up with NFL. Well, NFL's a little different than USAC. No, but what I was saying is other sports. I meant other sports. I think it's brilliant for World of Outlaws and some of the other racing series to tag along with NASCAR in the markets.

I think there's a lot of people in the garage that leave the garage after working and racing all day, go home and take a shower, get them a roadie, and they go to the dirt track. Man, I'm all for that. Yeah, easy. I'm all for that. Not to mention the fans that are there. Obviously, we bring a lot of fans into these markets. But as NASCAR is laying its schedule out, I think it's give a crap about what those other series are doing should be zero.

Yeah, I mean, I've done that before. I think it was Chicago. Chad was racing across the street of the dirt track. I went over there as soon as we were done practicing. I went and seen like Wyndham and Tyler race. They were running. I did it in Kansas. I mean, it should be up to the dirt series to do that.

I have NASCAR's not conferring I mean I have modified if I could run them Yeah we see And we see Kyle You would run them every Saturday night I mean there was a track

Outside Chicago land That I ran out When I was right When I was a Yeah I don't remember what it was But like I used to do that all the time And I just Don't anymore

Because there's no It's all Again that's a modified right Like it's not a sprint car Like C-bell runs or anything like that I don't even understand How Larson Figures out

Where to go Oh my gosh His kid was got I don't understand who does that for him, but I could never do that. Like, all credit to him for even figuring out where races are. Because honestly, Yeah, I want to come here. Half the time of figuring out where these dirt races are is like some Facebook feed posts,

like, hey, we're racing Thursday. You know, like, that's how it is. They don't have posted schedules. So, I mean, it's up to them to figure out. So, yeah, if there was an outlaw show, you know, say we ran XVee race on Saturday, and there was an outlaw show somewhere within, 40 minutes of the track at Bristol, would you went and washed it?

No. No. Well, he's just, he's a modified guy, though. But like, there's a lot of guys in the garage that would have. Spring, Kansas, they do that.

I think it's Lakeside. World About Laws races Saturday night. Yeah. And I think the whole, like, the crowds are packed with NASCAR people. Saturday night, I wouldn't. Friday night, I would race. Friday night.

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I literally said half of our team is not back from five points yet. We'll be a second half team. That was a joke. I think he's getting a little offended right here. You can hear it starting. People are. I'm not mad. People are clob-fitting.

Georgia. Firm, fuck them all. So we're doing so good. So we applied PJ1 to the inside lane to improve the racing. But after three series race on it, leading into the cup race, and completely wear it out. We don't reapply it ahead of the cup race.

Ding, ding, ding. I think we have a What-An-Idiot award winner on our hands, boys. And it might be the guy on this call. If you would have reapplied that, the race would have been terrible. Awful, awful, awful, awful. It was close to being good. I'm going to ask a question.

I'm going to ask Justin a question. Why apply it at all? I don't know. I don't know anymore. We haven't not applied it. So I don't know what would happen. if we did apply it, but I think Is it stupid to apply it?

At Bristol? I don't know. I mean, I think for, the problem is Okay, T.J. Is it stupid to apply? The truck and a C race was bad, right? Because it was there. But you needed those two races to make the cup race good.

But why? Because it wore out. Is it stupid? Yeah, but I'm saying, but if you don't put it on, then you don't need to wear it out. Is it stupid to apply it? Yes or no. I don't know. Oh my God. I don't know. I haven't seen a race without it.

He's going back to JJ. It used to be JJ J.J. Haley. He's going back. It's TJ and JJ. How do you know? How do you know? How do you know if it's going to be a better race without? Because I don't know why we, listen, I think that, I think it helps.

I think it does help. I think it needs to be there because I think it helps the bottom lane. But I'm glad they don't reapply it because then the bottom lane would become dominant. And I think that that's what you're trying to avoid. You don't want one dominant lane. If it wasn't there at all, Brett's leaving because I'm making a point. He's done. I think this weekend is perfect.

Thank you. For you to have the rest of the show. Thank you. You hold on to them. I think it does help. I think that I think it helps the bottom lane a little bit. But I think they find a heavy medium for the cup race. It's trying to be reasonable.

Thank you. They don't want. I see. They sacrifice. the Xfinity and truck race for the greater good of the That's what I just say At least someone's on my side

Listen I'm agreeing with you. I don't need to reapply it You didn't you said I don't know You could have said yes you should have said yes You should have said yes they should have All right let's move on we're getting nowhere I'm leaving Question for the caution committee Is a flat tire

A caution or is it not a caution Because right now it's somehow both You can't just Be showing favoritism to the Playoff drivers because that's what it looks like when you have Kislaski hitting the wall and don't get a caution. But when Seabell splashes a few sparks

without hitting anything, it's an immediate caution. That's not right. Be consistent with your fucking cautions. He doesn't realize that Seabell had three cars bearing down on him, I guess. Three wide. Three wide.

In the way. You know, I was a little, the only time I, trying to cross a car to the bottom is nerve wracking when you're stuck up top. And listen, it's hard because even if there's a gap coming. Like the gap. is usually five car lengths maybe, so it's...

What if you turn and you're running half the speed of everybody else? What if he turns and it doesn't turn as good as he thinks? He doesn't get out of the way quick enough. Like, we were actually stuck on the high side. The other one was already on the bottom, too. The yellow was out before he even got to the bottom. I mean, I don't know. I mean, I don't know.

I don't have an opinion. My wife was asleep last night at the end of the race, so out of respect, I didn't do what I'm about to do. So this was my reaction last. night inside when Chris Busher won the fucking race. Let's go! I've been waiting 10 years for Rauch to get their shit together. They finally did it. Chris won the race. Brad probably should have won the race. Congratulations, TJ on another good run. That Rausch groups coming together. Glad to see it. Go Cox.

Oh, go Cox. Christopher. Oh, Christopher Busher. Listen, this is a bigger win for Chris Busher than people realize. It's a bigger win for Rouss Fenway. at Kozowski racing that people realize. Obviously, they came out to start the season. Struggle Bus at L.A. I mean, struggle bus. Show up two weeks later at Daytona win both duels, right? Big, big change there.

But for Chris to go out and win this race, he's, to my knowledge, he's probably in a contract year at the end of next year. He needed this. The company needed this. Winning fixes everything. Winning is a lot of fun. Winning is a lot of fun.

It fixes everything. So we probably didn't give those guys enough credit to start the show. So give them credit now. That's a huge win. That is a crown jewel win in my mind. Bristol Night Race is a special event. And those guys deserve a lot of credit. And Chris Busher deserves a lot of credit.

Of the two cars, I'm not going to ask TJ this question. I'm not going to ask Justin this question because God only knows what he'd say. I don't know. Of the two cars, the six and the 17, which one do you think week in and week out has had more speed? 17. 17. He deserved it win that race. I'm happy for them guys.

Yeah, I'm pumped for them guys. They deserved it. So Chris got up on the wheel and won that thing. So he was fast all night too. There's not many blue-collar guys that can still work on race cars and get things done. Bushers is one of them guys. I have a lot of respect for him. I don't know Christopher personally.

I don't know if I've ever even been in the same room with him, to be honest with you, but he's a guy that needed that win. Well, every time you win, you puke up your whole spleen in 2020. in 2023 You're driving for the king I used to think you were overrated But this year you proved me wrong Now I'm calling in to DBC

To sing the Nova Gregson song And you're pretty dang cocky Brother, that's a fact But you can always find a bass pro car At the front of the pack I bet if you lost your beer gut You gain a couple of tents but I guess it really ain't that bad

because you can still climb the fence And if you get to Phoenix And your chances are looking slam Go pique your guts up one more time And win the championship That was pretty good That was really good We'll send that to Noah

That's the best lyrics we've ever had written That was clever That was good That's still the best Because I like Jibb does some good stuff But that was awesome Yeah And what's with it

I mean, we've really got to talk to him about puking on himself all the time. We did. We gave him some tips like that. Or a white fire suit? Really? Yeah, that's a bad deal. He said he's going to seek medical attention at the end of the season. Have you ever thrown up on yourself in a car?

No. Yeah, I didn't think so. That cannot be enjoyable. He does it every week. He must like it. I'll tell you what. He does a hell of a job because the other guy that peaked in his car ran right to the back to somebody.

I'll give it to Noah. I don't know why he's so open. and, you know, shotgun. I don't understand how he can shotgun a beer on the front stretch, then drive his car to Victory Lane. That wouldn't work for you. You'd ready to run into something? Well, no, like...

How can you do that? Justin would be drunk. Do I have a point or no? Is that any legal? You don't just drink a beer and now you get drunk off right? Like, in 30 seconds. Justin was 80 pounds. I retract this, David.

We're going to take Justin's coming to big owls with us again. We're going to start this three days with your energy drink here. Sorry, sorry for making a point. Yeah. Just say I don't know the rest of the show. All right. To leave an audio message 24-7, go to anchor.com slash dorm-up or clear.

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Dirty Mo Media's newest show is available now on all major podcasting platforms. And be sure to give us a follow on Twitter and Instagram at SpeedStreetPod. It's time for the AskDBC Offerpad question of the week. Don't forget to send in your questions on Twitter each week using hashtag AskDBC. We'll keep picking and answering the best ones. This first one is from NASCAR fan 999. should NASCAR investigate the potential team orders that parked the 23 and later the 22? Both teams suddenly pulled off with mechanical issues.

Brett, what do you think? I wonder why you went to Brett. Well, I'm not aware of this, so I can't speak to this from an educational standpoint. I don't know what she's talking about. So Kyle Bush fell out of the race blew up. Yep, saw that. I don't have balls. So basically it was a little ironic when the cars pulled off where other manufacturer or team cars were.

Kyle Busch fell out of the race. Yep. I saw that. I saw that live. 2311 cars had power steering issues. Both went to the garage. I saw that live. Fixed them.

Yep. Both came out of the garage. Okay. And the 23 had a power steering issue come back about five laps before he passed the 18. Okay. Then that kind of put. So he didn't pass the 18. He didn't pass.

He didn't pass. He did pass the 18. 23 did not. Okay. And then there was, the two car was the car that was going to be on the cut line. Okay. And he was getting close. He was only in by, he was tied or in by one.

And the 22 had some issues and the 22 parked to kind of pad that lead. And he would have passed him. He finished race. Yeah. Spot on for the owners and the crew chiefs that made the decision to park the cars to help their respective teams. That's what, that's why you own multiple. pull cars. That's why you have manufacturer alliances and if you people

who are referencing this is, oh man, this is no different than what MWR did, you're 100% right. It's no different than what MWR did. They're trying to, you know, essentially maximize their guys' day and if you think this isn't going to happen, you're naive as f***. Again, I can't wait to hear this.

NASCAR did say that the officials did evaluate the cars and they had legit mechanical failures. saying an opinion. I'm just telling you. They were three wide behind Christopher Bell when he strode debris everywhere. Justin, what do you think? No comment. They're wrecking at different angles. Absolutely. Going way faster.

I wouldn't comment on this either. I'll keep my boss on the table. They, you know, I saw a lot of people like Toyota's out to get Kyle by having the 45 pass them. Listen, the 45s and the owner points. And a lot of people don't realize, yes, the 45 is already locked into the next round. But if we ever fall out of

the next, if we ever fall out of the playoffs, we're still racing for fifth and points at the end of the year. So you've got to accumulate every point you can get. And you also, at the same time, hate to say it, but like you want, if you're the 45 team and you have the opportunity to knock the 18 out of the owner's championship for the next round, you probably want to take that opportunity. You'd much rather race Austin Cindrick in round two of the owner's championship

than you would Kyle. So that's why we're back out there to get around Kyle. But you were already locked in, right? But yeah, but I'm saying we want to knock. We're already locked in. We want to knock. Who would you rather race? Would you rather try to beat Austin Cedric or Kyle Bush?

I was in the race, so I probably know the least amount of information. I'm just saying, like, if you want to, you want to advance the next round, you're going to want to do it against us two versus 18. It's the same people saying Kyle Bush was sabotaged. Toyo was sabotaged him. Joe Gibbs Racing sabotage him. If you honestly believe that, you're an idiot. You're not what an idiot you are a complete idiot.

You couldn't be more wrong in what you think happens around here. Idiot Hall of Fame. Because I promise you. Toyota doesn't want to win a chance. You know, exactly. That's how, anyway. All right, let's move on to the next one. MSN-1108.

If drivers feel absolutely unsafe in this next-gen car, do you think they could strike or would owners just fill seats with willing drivers? Justin. Oh, here comes your boss back. I'm not going to strike. Again, I'm 23. What do I have to lose?

Everything. A lot, actually. But it's just me. Like, I'm going out there doing my job, right? We get paid to take the risk. I mean, at least I do. I mean, I don't know about Cody Ware. But, I mean, like, I go out there every weekend and I feel safe.

I mean, that's the thing is I'm in control of my own car for the most part, right? So kind of like what Noah said last week, you put yourself in your own situations and risk and take your own risk versus rewards. So now, are we going to start? strike, that's ridiculous. Unless it starts raining. Yeah, unless it starts raining, then I, then I can't control my outcome. Whatever you do, I'll f*** and lift. Yeah. I should have told you to lift, man, I'm sorry. There's, there's, there's no, I mean, come on. Like, what, why would, how would we get so low that we would go on strike? Like, what do we get to, like, sit on the front stretch? It doesn't even make sense. Pick it. Signs up. Because, you know, you know,

cardboard. I mean, five of us can't get, like, never mind. I'd go on forever. No, no, no, you're right. None of us could agree for that. I mean, if 36 of us or 35 of you go on strike, I'm not. And I'm winning the race. Like, that doesn't even make sense.

And then I have my second career win that's due to unfortunate circumstances. Like, it doesn't even make sense. I agree. It doesn't. Like, it's not like, we're not unsafe. This don't like to rent. What would happen if you call my colleague right now,

and you said, I'm not racing this weekend, I'm going on strike. What would happen? Just guess. So I, so when I had, uh, when I sat out for COVID protocol at Dover last year, call him that up, he said, all right, well, we'll just put someone else in the car. That's exactly what every homer is going to say. And you don't want to hear those words. He meant it respectfully, but they're just going to.

There's a line of people who would gladly. Yeah, I don't want to hear those words. No, I mean, that's just what's going to happen. I mean, they're just going to put someone else in it. And I would be that guy. Yeah. If someone stepped out because they felt uns- But none of us feel unsafe.

Like, come on. I think just people are. Do we? Do we feel unsafe? Tell me. I mean, I feel fine up there. I feel like every time Bubba hits the wall. The spotter stand kind of scary sometimes.

Bubba hits the wall. You're way up there. You've been very fortunate to not crash a lot this year. Yeah. I saw you take what I thought was a really hard hit at Vegas. Huge. Huge. Huge hit.

Obviously, Daytona. Was it? No, it wasn't Vegas. It was, um. Was it Fontana? It was Fontana. We threw a block. Somebody said,

Fonte off, and they sent us. Atlanta was huge. I mean, I will go on record saying that it's the two hits this year. Even the Coliseum, that was, people don't realize

that Coliseum hit was huge. Because it wasn't a safer bear. It was the front stretch. It was ginormous. It was at the Coliseum. So. Where was it? You thought your ribs were hurt?

Atlanta. I thought when I got on the plane, I had a broken rib cage. That was with us, right? we all wrecked. Is that coming to the checker? Yeah. It's just ginormous. That was one Bubba said it was P1, hardest hit over.

And I was P1 in the same wreck. And Christopher Bisher was in that same one. So the wrecks, the hits are harder on you. Yeah, I mean, we've all said that. It's not a secret. Yeah. Huge. Yeah.

Can they fix that? Can they make it better? Yeah, I mean, I would assume they can. I mean, you just, I don't know the dynamics of the race car. I think they will. I do. I think it's really tough to make that big a change during the season. That's why I said earlier, I hope it's productive off-season.

So I'm going to rephrase this question. You're not going on strike. You're going to show up and you're going to race. How do you get the message to NASCAR from the drivers, other than publicly, which we're seeing in the last three weeks, become a predominant way to get the message across? How are those conversations held? Who are they held with?

Who represents Justin Haley and them conversations? I really don't feel like I have a voice for those conversations. Be honest with you. Because you're new here? Yeah, I mean, I'm just trying to figure out where I fit in, you know, and I'm not like an open guy like Noah, right? It's hard for me because I was how I was raised and my personality. I'm pretty, you know, behind closed door kind of guy.

You know, I don't open up a lot. So it's hard for me to figure out where I fit in in the Cups series and where, you know, how much say I have. And, you know, I don't want to overstep my boundaries, right? So you trust the veterans? I trust Kevin Harvick. I trust wholeheartedly what Kevin Harvick says. And I feel like he's done a great job.

Well, congrats to NASCAR fan 999 for having this week's OfferPad question of the week. Both were good questions. Yeah. Yeah. Time for us to get to our favorite X-Fi, more than fast moments from this week. Whether you're behind the wheel or online,

speed isn't the only thing you need. So what were your favorite more than fast moments this week? DJ. Man, I hate to be biased, but I thought Brad drove a really good race and he drove up to the park. How many times have we passed the top five

legit, like straight up this year? Yeah, just finish. So whenever you do, how do you not give it somebody that did that? You did a great job. It's probably the same way I didn't give it to us last one. Where'd you finish? Oh, yeah, we didn't. Yeah, way back.

We just didn't get Kurt. He's like, that doesn't matter. Just because you got Kurt's car last week. So you finished 31st. Yeah, thanks, thanks, Kurtz. You finished 13th. Yeah. So, yeah, pitting under green.

So we were, so our Ex-Findyx 5 moment is faster than yours. I, well, I didn't. Could be if you want. Good. My, you know, I was a great job. I was proud of the guys. I was proud of the team. Those guys fought hard, got up there.

Should have had a shot at it. Thank God, good year and Gatorade, boys. Greg. My ex-Svindley X-5. More than fast moment goes to whoever decided to stay out with Noah Gregson's car and his win. I heard it was him. I was giving Luke Lambert a ton of credit post race for making the call. It won in the race, but I think it might have actually been Noah.

So whoever decided to stay out, that thinking fast right there won the race. And the seven car, ooh. So Noah said basically move me or I'm going to win. You're going to have to move me to win. Yeah. That's a good call. And he's in a position to be able to do that. Yeah, that's smart call.

My Xfinity X-Five. More of the Fast Moment is going to go to Ty Majeski. First career truck win. Really good all weekend. I noticed in practice he was one of the best cars. I think Chandler, like we talked about, had the best truck, but got kind of buried in track position. But Majeski was right there in position.

You take the risk of forfeiting some stage points to put yourself in position to win the race, and he capitalized on that. And now he's in the final four going to Phoenix. So awesome to see Ty. Somebody I've known for a long time, spotted some lay model races for him, New Smyrna, always go down there with him. Derek are kind of pseudo teammates at the derby.

So I've known Ty a long time and just awesome to see him. Guy that's worked his ass off to get where he's at. You talk about guys that like Bush or that work on the trucks. I mean, he was an engineer at Thor's sport last year while he was running part-time. He bet on himself. So yeah, and you know, like he's a guy that he knows every inch of that truck when he gets in it every week. So awesome for him. Awesome to see Ty get his first career win.

I'll say one thing about him is there's a lot of guys that come into the sport with a lot of hype and a lot of they're going to win. They're going to be successful. Man, he wasn't. I mean, he just kept running into roadblock after roadblock after roadblock, and it appeared he was on a dead end street. And I don't know what he did or how he got to where he's at, but I'm really happy for that guy because he has a lot of talent.

Obviously, we've heard about his iracing reputation. We know he's won a ton of short tracks in the short track world. Like if you look at guys that have come through here and didn't make it, you were like, man, that's a shame because the guy can drive. It's good for him to get a win because I think this will be the first win of many for a guy. Is he arguably the winning-ish super late model guy? Right now. Right now.

In like the modern era. Like he's probably... Him and Bubba are probably the two, Bubba Pollard. They're the guys for pretty much a decade now that have gone, and they're the guy to be when you roll in the track. Even when Ty goes back for the one-time deal, like Bubba's kind of falling off a little bit. Yeah, Bubba's, yeah, he's kind of tapered up.

It seems like every time Ty goes back and runs the race, he ends up winning it. Yeah, I mean, he probably should have won this snowballed there to be five times by now, but either before they went to, well, they had live pit stops, he was never going to win because unfortunately they didn't have the live picker. They wouldn't spend the money to bring Jimmy Johnson's picker down there. And then a couple of times he got wrecked leading a couple years ago.

So he's, I mean, he's probably the most dominant super late manager. Just get them belts tied at Pocono will be good. Oh my God. Do you remember that? Yeah, I remember that. Who do you got, Justin? He want to give the Xfinity X-Fives? My X-5 more than fast moments is AGE on one-dinger,

regular season champion. I mean, he is just, he's unbelievable what he can do. And we know every week. I mean, he's probably not in the fastest race car. just the truth, right? We're working to get there at college racing, but being teammates with him, he can take a 10th place car any day,

win with it. I mean, he has made an organization. He gets all of it. He's a smart race car driver. He came into victory lane to see Chris. How much does he helped you? Not at all. I mean, he's helped the organization.

He's helped me back. I mean, AJ have really never had, AJ's like, hey, you're going to ask me a question. I'm not going to tell you. Like, that's just how he is. And, I mean, we've definitely, helped each other. I feel like we've helped each other off track, though, and how we go about the weekends and everything like that, you know.

I feel like it's more off track stuff. The biggest thing I take it, just as important. The biggest thing I take away from AJ is, especially in these cup races, it seems like, you really don't see him all night long, even at the road course. Like, you know he's there, and then all of a sudden you have a late restart. He's like, just like that. Holy shit, he's in the second row. Like what happened here?

Like how to put himself in two position. Here's my favorite thing about AJ Ammendinger. And AJ and I have settled on the show. we had a stint where we didn't really like each other. We didn't know each other. That's changing the last two years. My favorite thing about him is we walk in the lounge yesterday, me and you were in there together with him. He does not give a single he will tell you exactly what he thinks. He will lay it out on the table because A.J. was retired. They got him out of retirement. Still to this day, the smartest move Chris Rice has ever made.

Besides hiring me. Besides hiring me. Second. Was hiring AJ, I'm a dinger. But like when they ask A.J. a question or when he voices in a opinion, it is solely to help make the race cars go faster, to make the race team better. He doesn't care about Chris's feelings. And let's be honest, a lot of people care about Chris's feelings that are around Chris. He does not. I think that's the number one thing that he brings to the table is the fact that he only wants to go fast. He doesn't care about anything else.

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And I think you all got it right where Austin would be eliminated, but it doesn't look like anybody got their elimination predictions correct after Bristol. I had no idea, Kyle Busch with a Bristol race in there and with the racetracks that were in there that he was going to be a factor to win. Somebody should have picked Kyle him now make it. Oh, Freddie, I think you may have. That was brilliant. Just kidding. You did.

And T.J. picked Eric Amarral and Eric Jones to get eliminated. So, um, he was, I wasn't, I wasn't wrong. You're right. They did not transfer. They were definitely eliminated.

All right. Round of 12 elimination predictions. What tracks do we have? Texas. Talladega. Roval. And the Roval. Oh.

Is it the Roval already? Who gets eliminated? Ah, we will go with Austin Sindrick. Daniel Suarez. Two road course. Yeah. Interesting.

I will say Ross Chastain and Chase Briscoe. Wow. Those are all road course guys. Right. Well, they better win.

They better be Chase. Look, I have been on the Ryan Blaney train for far too long, and I'm getting off of it. He should be losing his crew chief for a month. I saw a tire. rolling out. It's questionable.

He should be losing his crew chief for a month. It almost hit a guy. He's not won a race all year, other than his million dollar net gate. And we're going back to Texas. You guys are out of control right now. I'm just telling you, man, I ain't feeling his mojo. He's swinging the wrong direction. I say Ryan Blaney's out.

I say Chase Brisco's out. I'll echo Freddie's comments. Daniel Suarez is out. I think he makes a lot of mistakes. Austin Cendrick has surprised me the last few weeks. He's had some speed. Yeah, he does. He's had some speed.

I'm going to go to William Byron. Ooh. You always got to have the one guy. One big name is going to have a problem. I mean, you pick Blaney too, which is a... You got a plate race, and you got a freaking road course, and there's a lot of things going to happen. I couldn't pick Blaney because of the plate race and Texas. That's just...

None of our picks are going to make sense. Suarez. Briscoe. You don't work at Penske anymore. You can pick St. Byron. And, um... Man, I just, I don't feel like the 48th's been, they've been struggling a little bit too,

so I just'm going to roll with. I think Austin does enough during the races, and he chips away at it enough. He might have some bad luck, but he seems to claw his way back into it, and he's probably going to be an animal at the roval. So, and they've been good at them. I'm guessing they're going to be good at Texas, but I think he can survive this one. Justin. Who you got, Justin?

I'll go with I'll just go with the bottom four Brisco Bowman's where that's a way to go out on a limb right there Give them the balls back please You want your balls back I mean I mean the only one I'd really make a case for Cendrick All right well we are officially entering the Expinity Series playoffs

Let me ask you one question Casey Oh yeah here we go How important are stage points going to be At Talladega for these guys Just say yes 10 out of 10 Yeah I mean 100% You got to go for them.

If you're Chase Elliott, if you're Joy Lugano, you may be sitting on a bubble depending upon what happens this weekend at Texas. But if you're those bottom seven or eight with that middle race being a plate race, how important are those stage points going to be in stage one and stage two? There's no, they're invaluable. Like, I mean, it's like you got to have them. It may be the hardest points to get all year. And I know that sounds crazy for me to say that,

but it may legitimately be the hardest points to earn all year will be stage one and stage two. You know who wins from that? Everybody listening. Everybody watching the listening. Exfinity Championship predictions. TJ? I got to look at it first, Casey. You don't have it.

Man, I really want to see, I really want to see AJ Almondinger or Daniel Hemrick, obviously, get one for Daniel. It would be number two. We simply don't have speed right now, and we can't put races together for whatever reason on the 11 cars. Why? Because you're texting.

It's been probably. Maybe I should. just start calling people during a race instead of texting them. Hands free. You need a hands free device. I've seen that too, actually. Obviously, we just had a crew chief swap a couple weeks ago trying to light a fire over there and get some good things going.

We had a power steering issue this weekend at Bristol. But the reality is, man, there's two situations out here. The 54 car is an absolute rocket. I have never driven a race car at that level, and I would love to go out there and take a lap in that thing. It looks like it's that fun and fast and easy to drive. Nothing against Ty Gibbs. He's the lucky pilot of that thing.

and then obviously J.R.M. For whatever reason, the 1 and 8 can't hit their ass with a paddle, but the 9 and 7 are on absolute fire. That's the three guys you got to pick from. If those three don't make it to the playoff to the finale, it'll be a shame

because they certainly, thus far into the season, have earned that right. Obviously, AJ being regular season champion, he's earned that right. I hope that's the four guys that are in it. And when you get to Phoenix, who's your money on? Allgaier.

Allgaier. AJ. You don't have a choice. You're like TJ over there. Does Brad have an exfitting car you could pick? I think I picked Noah last year, didn't I? Yeah. Chris took Noah's going to take the championship.

No, I don't... Is he not... Is he not running out? How bad was he in practice? Was he better in the race because he sucked in front of the race? Yeah, okay. It's just for us, it's only his third or fourth exfini race. I was worried about you.

I was scared of death for practice. I was worried for you. What happened? He was terrible. No, we were in this fast group and it's his first time at Bristol, like third or third time in a senior car. Oh, you were in the fast group. Yeah, we never should have been in the fast group. Oh. Because we, by the time we can't even get to the bottom to get some laps in. I mean, it's, we're already 10 laps in. Like, yeah, we should have never been in that group.

So it. You did a good job during the race. We ran all the laps. I think we were close to getting the lucky dog. I was legitimately worried for this. I was. There was. There was not one issue during a race. Look, if you're a spotter, I don't feel bad for you if you're spotting the driver. Why are you looking at me? but I legitimately I don't feel bad for you because if you suck and your driver sucks you're going to suck but if you're an accomplished spotter and you're spotting for somebody that sucks it sucks I mean honestly I feel that whole paragraph for you to re-examine I look back at it is I did my job and I feel like you know we've already had a meeting stuff but he's learned from it and he learned

during that race so I feel like it was a I did my job and he did his job to learn um zero issues who I'm impressed with is Brandon Brown what he's done what he did in that O2 car last week he was the top qualifying our car first week in an hour motor sports car and then this week in the BJ's car. He was in a five.

And this week and he was good. Yeah. He's qualified in front of us. You've only ever seen him in the 68 but he's showing that he can get another equipment. Whatever he gets in, he outruns a 68. Whether he finishes in front or not is a different story, but he outruns the 68 every week. That's cool. That's awesome.

He should have built a better team. Who are going to spot for in his affinity next year? are you going, you're like, what's X-Finity? I'm just kidding, I can't say that. You don't want to throw any Hail Marys out there? No, I don't know. I mean, we're still. I don't know yet.

I'm not throwing any Hail Marys. Who are you spotting? Xenity. I think I'm retiring from Exfini. Are you retiring? No, I'm hoping I'm spotting for Landon next year. I would hope, we'll see. You don't got a deal there yet either?

Nope. I might just retire. I might get retired. That happens around here a lot. I've been retired a few times. I spotted one race in my career. How'd that go? Not good.

You're not signing up to do it anymore? I got fired. You got retired. Who fired you? Who fired you? I think you did. I did. It was on the 11 car at Cota.

Oh. I said like four words, which was probably the issue. Well, no, that's every other spotter over there. The least you took the radio on. Neal still figuring out his stuff.

What an idiot. All right, let's move on to what an idiot. You do that indie car guy. Oh, Brett's buddy. Talk too much. Speaking of what idiot. Oh, is he spot in your car?

No. No, no. No, that's what I got replaced by. You're back, actually. You've been retired. My what an idiot, I have a thing with smells. Oh, what? Can you tell?

Where are we going? I am the kind of person that I'm going to smell something before I drink it. I'm going to smell it before I eat it. And when something smells bad, it distracts me. Oh, I know where this is going. So I would like to give the what an idiot to whomever at Bristol Motor Speedway thought it was a good idea to put a cigar lounge right fucking beside the spotter stand because I had to smell cigar smoke for two nights and I don't like any kind of

smoke and of all the smoke cigar smoke is my least favorite smoke so I would like to give my one idiot I would actually like to take a stigar a cigar oh stigar and stick it up whoever's ass that thought this was the great idea and and just twist it around in there because I hate smoking this is getting way more graphic I hate cigars and I had to smell it for two days I thought you were going to say that you, the stink coming off of the fireworks that went off behind us during the National Anthem. You didn't think it was fun to get rained on by ashes

from fireworks before the race. I mean, it goes off right behind us. And then what's worse than that for the anthem is like, you guys are light them. The checkered flag goes off, right? No idea. And we're, now we're hauling ass to the elevator. And we walk right by it.

It's like five feet to our left. And it goes blowing on. Like, holy shit. This is too close. There were way more ashes this year that I've had that. Oh, we got covered in them. My one idiot, unfortunately, has to go to the driver of the DBC car from earlier this year. First of all, you're in the wrong year coming to Penn Road.

Second of all, there was no reason to push it. He was clear by 10, 15 car lengths coming to pit road. You were going to be the first one off unless the wheels fell off on the pit stop. It was just, just gave a race away, essentially. He gave a race away when you came down, Penn Street. road for one and then two you gave it away by making mistake you know coming to pit road and it just seemed unnecessary to me and i love just and i think he's awesome hell of a race car driver like we just talked about the favorite for the championship here great guy but that's a mistake you can't make uh yeah that was

that was going to be mine um talk about 10 point swing you just you took those five points from yourself and gave to know there's really not that many idiots this week i don't know no it's no one one idiot if you guys want to talk about so let's let's all i'm not going to go into detail but the true the crew Chief on the 40 truck is the biggest idiot of the weekend. I don't know. If you can look it up, you can look it up. I'm not going to. I'll tell you guys all fair because I'm not repeating it,

but he's the biggest idiot of the weekend. Jeez. All right. I mean, yeah, Freddie took mine because that's just you can't beat yourself and that's beating yourself. That's the most, that's the worst pennier that you can get in the series because track position

is so hard to come by and you literally throw it away for the length of these two footballs next to each other. You know, what are you really gaining? We choose. you could, if you don't like the guy in the next leg, choose the other lane. Yeah. I don't think he just, the mistake was just being in the wrong gear.

I don't think he was pushing his lights or that. You got to be aware, man. It's little, that. You get to Phoenix and do that, you're done. You know, if you get to that race. All right, Justin, this is your moment to shine. I don't, I honestly don't know if I have one. I mean, the biggest one.

Brett had to say something stupid on Saturday. I're an idiot for almost clobbering bell. Yeah, three lines. Come on. I don't know. Pick somebody. I don't think, I mean, I don't really know. Give it a Chris Rice for something he's done at some point in his life.

Just make up a good Chris Rice. What an idiot. Well, did you see his workout pictures? I mean... Oh, my God. He sent out a picture with his shirt off. That's what I was saying. What an idiot.

I passed him in the garage. I said, I'm scared of you, man. I've seen your workout pictures. Yeah. I don't know why he needs to. It's motivational. There's two things you don't do as a grown man. Take a picture with your shirt off a selfie.

Or take a picture in a bathroom. Those two things should be criminal offense. No bathroom. himself being a scritt off. Oh, Crempe, two nights in jail. You'll be what you get.

In county jail. So Chris needs to go to jail for a night? Yeah, 100%. Two nights. Yeah, with his shirt off. Does he get his phone off? Does he get his phone off? You know what?

I'll give it to Bob for being in the phone pit. Why are you in the phone pit? What? I thought to the exact opposite. No, it was amazing. But like, why? Because he can. You're in bed.

For entertainment. He couldn't see the phone pit anyway. His glasses were so dirty. He wanted to get to the track early for the next. day. All right. Casey wants to get the DBC picks again. Yes.

I won DBC picks. Casey's on a roll. First of all, thank you, Tyler Reddick for the inspiration and telling me the pick. Sorry, Mapes. Tyler Reddick,

he texts you to pick? Yeah. You should text them every week. I did. Don't you worry. Brett still leads the standings with eight wins. Jason in second with seven.

Freddie, third, with six. T.J. fourth with five. A bullshit caution calls me a win. I was going to win. And I'm last... The bullshit no caution.

The bullshit caution was my guy leading. The bullshit no caution. The bullshit no caution cost me a win. Yeah. Yeah. The bullshit caution actually cost me a win. Both of them. Twice.

Who wins? A DBC win and a win. Yeah. All right. We're making picks for Texas. Jason, you are up first. Denny Hamlin. You butt hole.

Who gets to pick second? You. You're even a bigger butthole. because I was going to be the next guy. Have I took Kyle Arson yet? No. No. Then I want Kyle Arson because he's the best driver in the field and he's due a win.

And he's going to beat Denny Hamlin just because you're a butthole. DJ. Damn. Go ahead, TJ. You okay over there, Jason? I'm going to go with... It's always like this, Justin. No, it's not.

Justin already knows who he's going to pick. Come back swinging. I'm going with Kyle Bush. Ryan Blaney Oh, that's good Window net or no window net? No matter. I'm going to take Chris Rebell.

Wow. Oh, that's... Bell is hot right now. I see that coming. That's her guy anyway. That's her bromance guy. Jesus Christ. Justin, who you got?

Who's going to win? You can pick anybody you want. We're limited on who we can pick. I'll go with Tyler Reddy. Oh. Oh, comeback week. Come back week. Bounce back.

This would be what his third. winning of the year if he wins. Yeah. Wow. So talking about Texas, something interesting I heard was it's just a rumor. I have not got any factual information about this, but I understand that the Kansas race will be the last time that somebody else is allowed

to qualify the 34 car for Jesse Ougi. So now if he would like to race, he's got to qualify his own car and I believe this week you'll see a driver changes Justin. Kyle Weatherman will be back in there. He did a good job. Weatherman does a really good job. Weatherman does a good job every week he's in that thing.

And I don't understand why he's just not in it full time. Yeah, he does a really good job, man. I would love to go back and look, and I bet it's three to four seconds, if I had to guess what the lap time was that Weatherman ran in practice versus what Jesse ran in the race. Probably two and I bet it's easily two and a half seconds. Did Jesse race?

Jesse race in Kansas. He had some kind of obligation. He couldn't make it for qualifying. And then Kyle qualified and then Jesse ran the rest. So this week. But I understand that that's, yeah, that's happened a lot this year. I understand it.

It's not right. shouldn't happen. Because it has to qualify it in, right? Because this could be anybody who can do this. You know, there's any, Carl Long, you know, he's on that cut line every week. What's to stop him from going to getting Tyler Reddick to qualify his car every week and then sticking Ogada or whoever in it, you know. So it's not right. And I'm glad if it's true.

I'm glad that they put a stop to it. There's a really good picture of Jesse Ougi and military uniform. And I personally love that picture of Jesse Ougi. And I think that's what he needs to do. And I think he needs to stay in uniform. I think he is awesome for our sport. I would love to see him in an ownership role but he doesn't need to trade in

that Navy uniform Justin for that fire suit that's what I feel like not at that level if he needs to go somewhere and learn how to race then go somewhere and learn this ain't a place for that yeah I agree so he sell Saco to get well oh Sacco

damn it's what happened John Sacco was running a half marathon John Sacco was running a 5K Friday morning that's not true and tour his Achilles I heard it was going up the tunnel maybe I don't remember but yeah unfortunately I heard he tore calf calf strain

oh yeah he's out six weeks with a calf yeah that was a rich man he's day to day a day with a calf strain okay I thought somebody had told me towards Achilles that would be a bad deal I'm waiting for the injury report he's an official with us on the roof every week and a great guy big Notre Dame football fan get well soon before we jump though

to Texas right we can't tell you what Texas is going to be like as a race car driver what's it going to be like don't say I don't know I'm going to knock you off chair. He don't know. He's ever been there. Are they spraying it? No, I don't know.

We don't know. We don't know. They don't tell us that. Usually Brad's the first one to ask. Bob's the first one to know. We got to get through the homestead test first this week. What are you going to homestead? Yeah, I think we were good there in the All-Star Race until we pitted and we were good.

So hopefully it's a good show. I feel like, honestly, I feel like it's getting better, like Texas with, with, the wear and everything. Three and four is still the scariest corner of NASCAR. Wow. Why is that? I mean, it's just you're going so fast in the wall just is there. Like so you're and especially with how our cars are. You run that top. You're getting that bump. I mean, you're one bottom out away from just backing it in the fence. So three and four is the scariest corner of NASCAR. It's fair to say you're in the corner longer at Texas than anywhere else we go, right? Yeah. I mean, I don't hate Texas. I I've honestly ran good there.

I want a truck race there on this configuration. I think it races good. You know, it's just different. I don't want them to do anything to Texas. I don't have a problem with Texas. I think it's been a great racetrack for a long time. And I think the tire is a big part of what we don't like when we go there to watch the race. I think downshifting is a big part of what we don't like when we go there to race.

I think the Dallas-Fort Worth market is huge for sure. sponsors and it's a big important part. I mean, I remember when Bruton Smith had the media tour guys and he put them on a plane and he flew them to Texas Motor Speedway, like to unveil it, right? So it's a big part of the history of our sport and I

love to, I love going to Texas. I love the people, the cowboy boots, the country music, and the cold beer. I'm down. Yeah, I mean, we had an issue with Texas before where they wouldn't dry. This is why we had to do a pave and then why they The asphalt was awesome. Yeah. But it just wouldn't dry. We were there for a week one time because it was a mist. You know, like it never really

But we were there all week. But like I get it. But if I would be there for that, I would wait it out for a great race rather than you can't do that. Oh yeah, you can. We did. But that's why I got paved. Yeah, it'll be fun. Thank you.

I have to shout. Hold on one second. I got to give a shout out. This is my new favorite fan. Zach Beechler was his birthday on Saturday. And he came up and said, hey man, it's my birthday. Big DBC fan. Here's $20.

First time everybody's ever gave me money for their birthday. He's getting paid for shoutouts now. He said, no, not 20. He said buy a shot for the ground for the DBC guys. So I bought it for the guys that were Hooters where you guys are sleeping. You were both invited. Didn't come. So go to hell.

So I bought a shot for everybody there. But thanks, Zach. Happy birthday. $20. $1 a long ways. You bought it for everybody. I got too. Jeez.

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