Door Bumper Clear - 270 - Texas: Black Eye

Episode Date: September 26, 2022

Door Bumper Clear survived the Texas Motor Speedway heat to recap the wild first race of the NASCAR Cup Series Playoffs Round of 12. Brett Griffin, T.J. Majors Freddie Kraft discuss how they dealt with the sweltering weather and producer Jason Schultz surviving a weekend in Columbia, SC. To begin Spot On, Spot Off, Goodyear listed aggressive team air pressures, changing conditions and resin as reasons for Texas tire issues after saying there are no excuses. The guys discuss who should take more blame for the issues and Brett shares what changes crew chiefs want to fix this problem.Next, NASCAR didn't penalize William Byron for spinning Denny Hamlin under caution and claims they did not see the collision. The spotters discuss how it would have been hard for NASCAR to miss the incident and if Byron could still be penalized for the move. Martin Truex Jr. commented on the tire failures after blowing one while leading the Cup Series race. The table explains why NASCAR needs to loosen the limitations on the Next Gen car and take responsibility for the part failures. Noah Gragson says he doesn’t want to run any of the Cup Series races for the rest of the year. They applaud Gragson for his transparency but mention who is negatively affected by his comments. Plus, the guys call for proactive safety changes.Kyle Larson says he wants Texas Motor Speedway demolished when asked how to fix the track. Freddie argues why they should not have reconfigured it and infers what the track’s future may look it.Finally, Joey Logano claims superspeedway racing is not racing because drivers should not be rewarded for riding around in the back. The spotters explain why Logano is being hypocritical and what makes the racing exciting. Plus, hear how drivers around the cutoff line should approach this upcoming weekend. In Reaction Theatre, fans call in about the tire failures, Tyler Reddick’s burnout, and William Byron spinning out Denny Hamlin.Later, hear what the guys suggest when it comes to pit wall safety, if and when Hamlin would retaliate, and a reckless move by Ty Gibbs.Thank you to our presenting sponsor Offerpad and partners Xfinity and RacingUSA.com for making this show possible. Want more DBC? Check out and subscribe to the new DBC YouTube channel! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Bumper Clear presented by Offerpad. I'm Brett Griffin. We made it back from a long day at Texas and have a lot to discuss. We'll talk the tire debacle, Byron spinning Hamlin under caution, demolishing Texas, and what to expect to Talladega. Here we go. The best in the booth. Stumber the Monday to tell you the truth. Giving the Finneys and breaking the rules. Good call to the hollad to bring it to you. Casey, you pretty. Freddy, you fat. DJ, you suck. Bracken so bad. Jason is pacing how to play in this race. And if someone don't crash and he's going to go mad. Looking for Freddy, he's killing the bottle. Casey is making messers like a taud.

Treat something stupid then don't even bother. Brett's going to block you like TJ is a spotter. See them online, though FF in the chat. Tell Rick where to stay off the track. All of the podcasts are living in fear. This isn't the download. It's door bumper clear. Nah, don't get it twisted, baby.

This isn't the download, nah. This is door bumper. Clear, clear, clear. There you go. I like it. Hey, everybody. I'm T.J. Majors. Spotted of the 6 cup car.

Had the 68, Xfitting car this weekend, and that's all. Hey, what's up, Brett Griffin, Spotter for Collick Racing. Another P3 finish for us. Justin Haley drove a really good race in a scorching hot Texas Motor Speedway. Were you hot? I didn't know it was that hot out. What's up, Freddie Crafts, spotter for Bubble Wallace and Landon Castle over the weekend. And I didn't have a good weekend at Texas, aside for it being hot as hell.

Hi, Casey. Hey, guys, Casey Boat here. Clearly will be a very short show. thing to talk about today. Hey, Jason. Hey, Jason Schultz, DBC producer, also Tyler Reddick lookalike,

big race winner. Texas was great. Great race. Best race ever. Keep Texas the way it is. You survived Columbia, I see. I did.

Did you guys all come back with your phones and Wallace and stuff? Yeah, we did. I was like, I was like, I could see how Freddie could have gotten lost. Freddy's like, teach me your ways.

Yeah, you know how you do that. Fans are a little cocky for the game cocks. No. No. I'm proud of them. Have you ever met a Gamecock fan before they? Oh, I did know one. I'm like, oh, these are his people.

You're like, sure. These are his people. Surely they can't all be ass-a-h-h-h-like Brett, but you're wrong. 88,000 of me. So they're not changing the name, right? No. Okay. I saw the cockaboos.

We saw cocky. It was parents weekend, so cocky had his cocky parents there. We talked about they were changing their names, and the leading candidate was. It was cock commander, right? Yeah, it was. The Serbixper died. The chicken died. And the chicken owner, like, had a, had the,

some kind of weird trademark or something on the name. He didn't want any other chickens to be named Sir Bigspur. So anyway, Sir Bigspur is back. We're good. All right good. All as well in Gamecock football. We actually won a football game. Thank God.

But I'm glad you have talking like they're going to Natty. Oh yeah, we are. Yeah. Undafety the rest of the year. They're just like, you're a recruiting class. In five years, you're going to be unstoppable. That's exactly how we live our lives. So they're like dolphins.

Five years. Because we should just give the Super Bowl to the Dolphins right now. Eight Saturdays, eight days a year. That place is rocking. I mean, you sell 88,000 tickets, something. That's going to be fun. 88,000 people's a lot. A lot of people.

No stories? No, we were very good people. That sucks. That town doesn't like those kind of people. That town likes people that come in and out like idiots. They love me. Which is why I go time of time. Speaking of acting like idiots, we saw a lot of that this weekend in Texas.

Drivers, crew chiefs. Everybody. Yeah, what happened? Everybody had it like idiots. Yeah. I mean, first off, congrats to Tyler Reddick. winning the race. I'm glad he survived.

Justin Haley told us on the show last week. Tyler was his guy. I know. He made sure he rubbed it in. And Tyler told me who the pick for DBC and clearly that worked out well. So glad he had to do. Whatever.

Never pick yourself. I don't even know where to start because I am... Just woke up. Yeah. Not to mention you were six minutes late. We were going to start the show without you. But you did a really good recovery.

Like when you hit the door, you were in your chair with your headphone on. You didn't do that thing where you get your phone out and look at your hair for 10 minutes. Pluck your eyebrows and flossy teeth. And it wasn't my fault. Somebody didn't show up when they were supposed to.

Babysitter or Chad? Not Chad, not a babysitter. Well, kind of. But I'm not going to say names because she's doing me a favor. So anyways, how was Texas outside? Yes, you all know her. Oh, Hannah. Oh, my gosh.

How is Texas outside? It was so obvious that quick. See, yeah, I should have been a detective. Did you see that look? I think it was her. I should have been. No, it wasn't her. But that look she gave you was classic, though.

Who's that? What? How was Texas? Casey, Texas was hot. The racing was completely insane. I don't think you could ask for two more insane races than what we put on this weekend. I mean, crash fest, tire drama, driver drama, everything.

Playoff drama. Like if you're a race fan, and your favorite driver crashed, like mine did on Saturday, it's easy to be upset. But if everybody thought we were going into Texas and going to see a really boring, no-story line, drama-free weekend, holy cow, were you wrong? You're an idiot if you thought that.

More stories out of Texas for probably two shows. How about the rain delay where it was literally just a blob over the track? It never even rained hard enough. It was a lightning. It was lightning. There was one lightning straight. Well, there was actually more than one. There was a couple, yeah.

I mean. We were under delay for, I don't know, felt like ever. It was 56, 56 minutes. Yeah. There was a couple. During during the delay. I was, somebody told me praying cures everything. I was like, you don't know what I'm praying for.

You better be careful saying that. My prayers aren't always good for people. I thought grapes cured everything for you. Grapes also cured things. I would have loved to have somebody to feed me grape sessions. Grapes, he was playing for grapes. Okay, I'm just going to say it very bloody. Yeah, go for it.

I was fucking hot, okay? It was a hot weekend on Saturday. I didn't run completely out of water, but my last water that was in my bag was too hot to drink. We didn't have any water. We didn't have any shade. Thank God Naskar saved us on yesterday because they had us a gigantic cooler of water. And I bet every caution came out, and there were 16 of them. I think I drank a bottle of water.

And I got under Kevin Hamlin's little umbrella thing. He had like a little station set up on his little spotter bag where he zipped tied an umbrella to a rail to something else. And anyway, I'd go over there and get in the shade, man. It just, it was one of those weekends where the air wasn't really moving, and it was just freaking hot. And I don't understand for the life of me why when it's going to be over 90 degrees, we do not have a temporary structure that can be put up with four poles and a nice little sheet of cloth to give us shade. Because here's what we're fussing about.

Not only is it hot, but we're standing on aluminum. And if you've ever been to snow ski, you know the reflection off the snow of the sun will burn you to death. It'll fry you. So we've got it coming from both ways. It's hot. Sun's beating down on us. And then it's bouncing off the aluminum. We're standing on and glaring in our faces.

So I just, man, I wish one of these track owners, which realistically, it's NASCAR and SMI. They own the majority of the places. Get together and give, look, I'm not going to be doing this much longer. Give these guys a break. It's freaking hot. Give them shit. We're the only people in the entire place that can't get out of the sun.

Everybody else can. I really, really, really appreciated both days. when Tim Berman would come on the radio and tell the spotters, hey, spotters, just so you know, there is a cooling station behind Victory Lane for all your guys on pit road. If you need you, you guys ahead and just let them know about that. And I was like, yeah, no problem, Tim. I'm up here baking in the sun,

but I'll be sure to let everybody on pit road know they've got a trail or they can go to the cool down. I'll tell you what's nice is like Bristol for the last several years has given us somewhere to go before and like least between in practices or something happens in a race. You have somewhere to go that's close to them. Yeah. There's a lot.

Atlanta does the same thing. There's a lot of tracks of kind of are. Yeah, and it might not be the biggest and best area, but it's better than a stairwell. It's got air conditioning. And it's all really matters. You know, we get this lightning deal.

All right. You know, okay, guys, head to the stairwell. Yeah, you're in Darlington. You get a lightning to like where you want us to go, but. Yeah. There's nowhere to go. Look, I'm going to just lay this out there. I wouldn't want to be a crew chief this morning.

I wouldn't want to be a driver. Would you want to be a driver this morning? No. I would not want to be a driver. be a NASCAR executive this point. To wreck or win? Well, I don't think it matters. Even if you want, Tyler's probably got a headache.

You don't want to be him either. Damn sure he's got a headache. I don't want to be a NASCAR executive because they've got their hands full on a lot of different notes, right? And I damn sure don't want to be a good year guy. They talk to him. We'll talk about it. Yep, don't you worry.

I promise you there's a lot to talk about. But I don't know enough about it to really speak to it and it sound like I know what I'm talking about. That's not uncommon for you. All right. We'll just go what I miss. You know what I miss? Interliners.

Yeah. Yeah. Because it seemed like before you could feel the tire going down and actually get low out of the way before. Now you can almost tell right before it blows because see the sparks come out of the back of the car. Like you can see. Oh, they're going. Yeah. There's no help.

Like you said, interliders not there. Yeah. You don't feel it. It's going. It's just like back in the day when you'd have that random, that random tire pop, it'd be gone. I'm going to tell you, man, there was a wreck where Bush are wrecked coming out of four and where I stand on the spotter stand and the color of his car and the color of the resin and the wall and the asphalt and all that.

Like NASCAR said, turned forward. I looked and I couldn't find the car. He was up against the wall. I couldn't. I was like, hey, they're saying there's a car out here, but I don't see it, even though I get paid to see it. That was a challenging wreck. It's tough sometimes when you have, when you're trying to look, like, just imagine going, like,

if you're for somebody sitting at home listening, like go to a baseball game and try to look through a fence, but look through the fence like at a 90-degree angle. You know, you can't see through it. So that's kind of what happened there. He was up against the wall and you're kind of looking through the fence,

like back towards turn four. And I never saw. I mean, I saw him eventually. But like if it was, if we were right behind him, it would have been tough to see, you know, I see turn four. I hear him say turn four,

but what, and then he pops out from, you know, he gets further down the front straightaway. You could finally see him. There were 16 times yesterday for us to be challenged, as spotters. And another one was I was, we're tasked with a lot of things these days because a lot of spotters have the SMT on the roof. I do not. And then obviously we have our phones, which we all use a manufacturer app to look at what lap are on, what lap times there are, how many laps to go.

There's a lot of information that we get there. But I had, we were running really fast, like three tents faster than everybody in front of us. I think we caught like Ligano or somebody. And we slowed down four tents. So I was trying to look and figure out like, what the hell is going on? I look up and Ricky Stenhouse is just flat out decided to wreck. And I'm like, A, I don't know who that is wreck. And B, I don't know where I'm at in correlation to this wreck. So I just keep up and say, good luck. I hope you're all right.

Thankfully, Justin saw it. You can only look down at your lap times while your phone was working because half the time, especially on Saturday, my phone would just be up. Sorry, too hot to use. I have to stick in my pocket in my bag. But service worked really well, just so you know. Oh, did it? We luckily have Wi-Fi in the roof, so I don't notice it as much anymore.

Wi-Fi has been a lifesaver during those races. What we need for technology. But then you have the temperature issue. That causes it. Yeah, your phone shuts down. Whoever the Wi-Fi guy is for us, I would like to give him a tip at the end of the year. So if you want to come find me, I'll give you a tip.

And I'd also like to give you an offering to go buy some to build shape. Because you're already up there setting stuff up. You might as well throw four poles and some cloth up. I mean, the Wi-Fi has been awesome. Awesome. Yeah. It's been a game changer for us because we normally struggled. Imagine how much a game changer would be if the fans all had Wi-Fi.

They could post about their experience. And they could go to their race. I told a NASCAR executive six years ago, seven years ago, we were sitting in an elevator shaft at Michigan, and he came up and sat down beside me. And I was like, I'm going to tell you something. You got a lot of problems around here. Your number one problem is we don't have Wi-Fi and our phones don't work.

And he was like, we do have a lot of problems. That ain't even in the top 10. I was like, nope, you're missing it. But that needs to be your number one priority to get people service. And here we are. You still don't have service. You must have been a last seat in the room. Yeah, they're all gone.

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Spot off. Here we fucking go. This is the dumbest thing I've ever heard. But if you're T.J. Um, uh, uh, there's only one correct answer. I don't know. It's time for spot on, spot off. First topic.

Goodyear says no excuses for Texas tire issues, but lists aggressive team air pressures, changing track conditions, and the resin as reasons. since. Spot on, spot off. Freddie. Well, I thought it was interesting that he said that there's no excuses right after he gave about four or five excuses and none of them were good year. Listen, I'm going to be honest. I still think this is on the teams. I think this, I mean, it's obviously, they're both playing a part in it, but I think maybe a little bit more of the majority of the blame lays on the teams.

And I've seen a little bit, I've seen Rodney's comments on it this morning. and he basically is admitting that. They're saying that these teams are lowering the air pressure and these tires to get the diffuser down to get the diffuser to optimal downforce. And we've said it on here before. If these teams figure out a way to go faster, even if it's not safe, they're going to try it.

And they're going to push the limits as far as they can and it's just a risk for a reward situation. You're going to go faster with lower air pressure and your defuser down. You might blow a tire. There's no coincidence that just about everybody we've seen blow a tire yesterday was leading the race.

So, you know, there's that. They claim the resin. Obviously, speeds had picked up, you know, after the rain delay, we were going a lot faster because of cool temperature. And then to Rodney's other point was this was all happening in three and four. The two different style corners, you know, you try to get your car as low as possible for max downforce of one and two, but now you've got a higher speed corner in three and four that you're kind of hauling ass through.

And that's where we saw, I think, all of the issues. Cole Custer blew a tire in turn one. I think everybody else was either entry to three or regular. at a four. So listen, I think this is still on the teams. You know, I think obviously Goodyear needs to work with them to make sure that they know, like, you can't go below. We used to have, I feel like we used to have an air pressure to do it.

Like, you go below this air pressure, but you're done. Like, that's the minimum air pressure. And for whatever reason, we don't have that or teams are just not obeying by it. And that's the issue. The issue seems like it's just low air pressure. I think we talked about this, Brett, to you, yesterday, Freddie, you know, a lot of the times I noticed manufacturers all have issues like last weekend. It was four this weekend. I feel like it was a lot of Toyota's. Is it because all the teams are

working on those lower tire pressures or is there something else to it? I'm not a tire guy. I'm not a crew chief, but I only have the ability to know what they tell me. And I talked to a crew chief last night and I said, and his car did not blow any rights side tires. It had no problems. Okay. I said, is this a good year issue? And he said 100%. So he disagrees with everything that Freddie just said from a standpoint of liability. Now, with that said, I spoke to another crew chief this morning. And the biggest question I asked him is we're headed to two more mile and a halfs.

We have Vegas coming up and we have Homestead coming up. Is there a concern leading into those two races? And he said, 100%. Having spoke to a third crew chief and some drivers, I feel like the liability here is across the board. I feel like NASCAR needs to listen to a guy like Rodney in terms of letting teams not be limited in the areas where they're limited.

I feel like Good Year, look, we saw a lot of left side tire problems to start the year. Those went away. Well, how do you think that happened? Somebody spent money and somebody fixed it. Now you got right side tire problems, which is actually, arguably, more dangerous. Oh, 100%.

More dangerous. So, I think you've got to have a table just like this, the one we're sitting at. And you've got to have a NASCAR guy at the table. You've got to have a competition guy at the table, like a Greg Zipadeli, a Brian Patty, somebody that's been there, done that for many years, understands all the different dynamics as it pertains to racing.

And then you've ultimately got to have good years sitting there. I do not think, Freddie thinks it's majority on the teams. I would agree with that if we were seeing it happen in different scenarios. The fact that you got the lead and you went the fastest, when are you going to run the fastest? It doesn't matter who you are. Out front. You're going to run the fastest you run all night when you got the lead.

And when you got the lead, you blew a tire. And it didn't matter what manufacturer you were. It didn't matter what driver you were. And it just... The lap count was almost identical. 33 to 38 laps. Look out. That's just the way it was.

So to me, I think you have to... There's just too many variables to say, what's wrong? but it seems in this scenario that everybody's wrong. And they better get it figured out because these guys are already fussing about how hard these hits are in these cars. And we don't, I mean, Chase Elliott's comments were on point. I mean, it was spot on.

He was like, I don't really matter to me. I just don't know like it's hurt. TJ? Spot off. I think it's a mixture of both because teams are always going to be aggressive. But the weird part is, is you think throughout the race, you see an issue start, you think guys would, you know, back off it a little bit. And I don't know, like, you still see it kept 35 or 35-ish laps and you still somebody was popping a tire.

And it was always a guy near the front most of the time because they're running so fast. And as the track cooled off, it got even faster there for a while before we got the lightning delay. It was getting, it was getting faster and faster and faster. and one and two was being covered with shade. And it just wasn't. Everything was adding up to not for a bad scenario. But I don't know how you fix it. I mean, if you're a crew chief and your driver.

I would not want to be the crew chief yesterday. If you're a crew chief and or driver, though, and you know this situation is happening, you're going to do everything that you can to not blow a tire. That's what we did. We kept putting, we kept bidding and putting tires on. And we were talking about putting 14 lapers on at one point because it had less laps just to, you know, and we played the safe route. I know I was nervous for Tyler and him.

If you're a crew chief and you ran all the practice and two thirds of the race at the same air pressure with no problems, do you expect to go into the final third of the race and not have a problem? You would think that you'd expect it, but you also have to account for the fact that you're going to be going faster. And you might have, you know, you might have an issue. That's their job. You know, their job is to know that keep up with the race. The one thing that we, the crew chief's job is during the race is to call the race, no one to pit and keep up with the racetrack. And if you know we're getting ready to pick up speed, you know,

you might be at a higher risk and you have to factor that in. I think the hard part is if in that scenario, if it existed and you ran your practice and you ran two thirds of the race and they tell you all day, hey man, your tires look great. Your tires look great. Boom, tire failure. I just don't know how, I don't know how you can. I don't know how you can manage that.

I truly, I don't. I don't know how. I was worried about Tyler. T.J. to your point towards endsaries because that was one of the longest green flag runs, I thought for sure. He had like 70 laps on his left side tires.

That's kind of my point. Like there's guys that ran the whole race didn't have an issue. You know, some of the, like Tyler, for an example, and then some guys had issues. He was back and once he got the lead, he slowed his pace down a little bit. He didn't go.

I mean, it's just, listen, When I say I put majority on the teams, we're talking 51-49 here. This is very even. You know, the tire has to be better, but the teams can do a lot to help themselves at the same time. They don't wear out. The tire doesn't wear out.

I'm just going to say, if I'm a fan yesterday, here's what I saw. Your tire doesn't wear out because these guys are going faster and faster as the run goes on, and they don't last. That's what I'm going to see as a fan.

I'm not going to, and you know what is a fan? I don't give it a shit about all this other technical stuff. All I want to know is, why is that tire popping? and why is it last? Why doesn't it fall off? That's what I'm saying.

So I think, I think Goodyear needs to be more, look, man. And I think that would, I think that would help. Like if the tire fell off, we wouldn't be going as fast. Duh.

And, you know, like, if you just make the damn thing, wear out, then then they won't be going as fast and we won't be at such high speed at lap 30.

But they're going to push it to the limits. You know, like the 14 had to be on course at the race yesterday. And he looked like it. But, I mean, if they're on cords, that's, they're wearing that. We saw it at the end of the Xfinity race. Who was it?

AJ stayed out. And I know, I think he bad, he had to back his pace way down because he felt like his right front tire was coming apart. And that was, I mean, I don't know how long that was. 60, 80 laps, something like that maybe. But that's, to me, that's how. Yeah, it's supposed to be. Yeah, maybe you shouldn't win as hard a few laps.

But he was stretching it too. Yeah, he ran hard. He didn't put tires on the last bit. Yeah, he was stretching it. It's almost like you, I mean, we talk about, here you want the driver to have to manage the tire and typically that means typically that means you're managing the tire to actually have a grip at the end of the run now it's like you you've got to manage the speed so that the tire don't blow up at the end of the run yes not the management that i would

look for not the management that i want to see our sport go in that direction so if i'm uh like i said if i'm good year executive NASCAR executive a crew chief or a driver i'm pretty stressed out this morning i mean obviously they can keep working on it because they've fixed things we've made progress in the beginning of the year with everything. Wheels, tires, everything. I mean, can you imagine that group chat, the NASCAR Cup series driver group chat today? Because those guys saw all their buddies and some people they don't like hit the wall and hit the wall hard.

I mean, we heard radio communications where some of those guys who didn't even hit hard from the roof were saying, ow, like that was a really hard hit. There were a few drivers after the race who mentioned they had headaches. I mean, and they barely hit. Doesn't Jason have access to that group chat? The driver group chat? Yeah. Oh yeah, I do.

I do. They were all saying, congratulations, Tyler. But you got drivers in the garage, and this, I mean, this has always been this way. You got a guy like Noah Gragson,

who is willing to buckle up and go race no matter what, right? And you've got guys that have kids. You got guys that are married. But I'm going to tell you something, having worked with a driver and having a driver that was one of my best friends, they know when they buckle up in that race car

and they put that helmet on, there's a chance they're not coming back. and they accept that. And it is really hard for people to hear that and swallow that. But I'm telling you right now, every one of those guys that climb in those cars, they know there's a chance they're not coming back. But we've gotten immune to the death part of it because it's been 20 plus years. And now, based on what these guys are feeling with their bodies when they hit,

they're scared to die again. Or they're making it publicly known they're scared to die. That's another topic. Good. All right. Let's talk about it. On that note, moving on to another hot topic from the race yesterday, NASCAR doesn't penalize William Byron for spinning Denny Hamlin under caution.

After the race, NASCAR says we had no eyes on the situation. Spot on, spot off. TJ. I mean, I don't know how you can spot on that. That's kind of, I mean, if racing door to door bumping somebody, maybe getting to Newman and send them up the racetrack in a corner is one thing, but like under yellow, I don't think there's a place for that under yellow to wreck somebody. All they had to do is check with their social media department because they had a video of it up 10 minutes later.

It might have been 15 minutes later. Every car has an in-car camera. When the guy, the yellow's clearly out in the middle of three and four and he gets to him and you hear the motor rev up to hit him, I don't know what else you would need. I mean, listen, they literally post. posted a video of it. NASCAR. NASCAR themselves posted a video of William driving through the back of Denny and then they come out and say we didn't see it. Yeah, there's enough cameras around that place. You can see the throttle up. And like I said, there's telemetry on these cars.

Casey, you're not, you're not going to brown nose your way out of this one for them. I don't know. No, no, I was going to say I was watching Martin's interview with Sirius this morning on YouTube. And he was during the interview, he looked on the screen and he saw, he was Like, why is Denny, like, doing donuts on the front stretch? Like, obviously something went wrong there. So Denny, paint a picture for maybe some of you guys who didn't see what happened. Denny and William were racing. Denny, uh, squeeze William, William scrub the wall.

Um, no contact made. No contact made. No contact. It looked like it was close. Okay, maybe they barely touched. Yeah, I mean, regardless, it wasn't anything malicious. We've already proved to Darnington, the first Arlington and a little bit of scrubbing equals rack. So now here we go.

there's a caution that comes out for a wreck. And in this same wreck, after the caution comes out, William Byron wrecks Denny Hamlin on the front stretch. Okay. Denny Hamlin at this point in time is running like second or third. He's going to line up, have a good night, right? He's now wrecked. He's now wrecked.

This is where the whole thing goes right. He's wrecked. He's mad. He comes out. I'm going to say about 16th, 18th is where he blends up. Where does he drive to? Second. He drives all the way from wrecked to second.

What does he do when he gets up there? Does he shows very much his pleasure? Does he bump William Byron? First thing, I think he break-checked him. Does he swerve at William Byron? Does he break-checked? For NASCAR to say they don't have eyes on this, it's asinine.

It can't even be true. Now, let's go a step further. Do you think that Denny Hamlin, Denny Hamlin's spotter and Denny Hamlin's crew chief are upset that they've lost their spot in the lineup. I'm sure. Okay, they're upset. We can all agree on that.

The caution was out. Okay, so as a spotter, do you go to the official and do you ask the official to get you help on getting you lined up correctly because you got wrecked under caution? Yeah. Yeah. I asked for more tires all night. So there is one communication source from the roof to NASCAR to say, hey, we have a question, we have a problem.

Can you look at this? Okay. So there's one thing. Now, did the official call it into NASCAR? I don't know. Did the spotter go to NASCAR and ask them to? Yes. So if that communication broke down, whose fault is that?

That's NASCAR's. Okay, now let's go to step two. Step two is every crew chief has a private chat on their computer to the NASCAR tower. So if they need something or NASCAR needs something from them, you've got mail pops up and they can talk to each other. Do you think that Chris Gaphart sent a message to the tower and said, hey, will you please look at where we're lined up? We got wrecked under caution. I'm sure he said something.

It might not have been. I'm not sure it was that nice. There's no way you just take that and just be okay with it. Okay. So now we got two things, two communication things that have happened. Guess what? Don't tell me you don't have eyes on it. If the spotter did his job and the crew chief did his job, it tells me you didn't do your job.

So, hey, and so now back to your. point, do we have in-car cameras and all these playoff cars? I think we have a car camera in every car. So guess what? You now have footage to go look at. Does NASCAR have access to SMT? That I don't know. I don't know either.

But they probably do. What they do have is TV replays because, as you said, their social media team decided to share it with the whole world. So. It was on the big screen. So did you know that it happened and you didn't know what to do? Or did you know that it? it happened and you come out and said you didn't know that it happened or did you truly not know

that it happened? Because in all three scenarios, who's in the wrong? Like my, my big thing is, there's two things here that I'm going to harp on is like if you didn't know that William ran him over, what did you think happened? Did you think Denny Hamlin just because we saw what Cole Custer early in the race. He blew a tire and wrecked under caution in turn one. But that was a blown tire. He hit. He hit. Yeah, he blew a tire and then wrecked. Denny, if Byron didn't touch him, would have had to just spin out under caution on the straightaway. Like that's, I say he's great all the time. I think he's good enough to not spin out by himself on the straightaway.

So, you know, you have all this footage. You obviously had the footage because you tweeted it 15 minutes later. We have the technology. And I guarantee if I looked at the yellow came out, and the time the yellow came out to the time the video when I was about 14, 15 minutes. I'm sure it was maybe a couple minutes after we went green. Because I think the next tweet I looked at was Tyler Redick takes the lead, which was on the restart.

And that was about the same time the video came out. So listen, the biggest thing that I'm taking away from this is you've set the precedent. Kyle Bush, wrecked Ron Hornady under the yellow. He got suspended. Johnny Sauter spun out Austin Hill at Iowa in 2019 under yellow. He got suspended. Surely they're going to be consistent and suspend William Byron, right? No way.

No chance. No chance. No chance he's suspended. But I don't, listen, we could go on, this could be a two-hour show in and of itself. How do you come out and say you didn't have eyes on this? When I just told you your people had eyes on it, your industry people had eyes on it, your officials had, they were aware of it, the message board guys aware, the spotter, listen, I don't know who he talked to, but he talked to one of them.

There's two officials up there with us. So if that spotter, if that official didn't call it in, then they have a problem. But if you cannot come out and say you weren't aware of it. this because you were made aware on multiple levels. I mean, yeah. And you had the means to do some investigative work to figure out what was going on before you up in pit road. But regardless of that, regardless of that, here's the bigger can of worms.

We're at Phoenix. And TJ is running, let's don't use TJ because he and he's not going to make it. 25th. He had to go ahead and use. I prefer not to be in this equation. Let's say that Joy Lugano is running first. and the caution comes out and Ryan Blaney

is running third and in the middle is a pickle with William Byron, right? So the first two are in the playoffs. They're competing for a championship. The caution comes out and Ryan Blaney just runs over runs over P2

takes William Byron completely out of the race. Oh, now Joy Lagano's got an easy championship win. That is the can of worms that has opened up here is are we going to allow drivers to wreck other drivers under yellow with no penalty. Does Denny Hamlin deserve to get his spot back? I don't know the answer to that question because he lost his spot.

He did not maintain race speed, but it wasn't his fault. Now, should Denny Hamlin be allowed to drive back up there and do all the things that he did to William Byron? No, he 100% should not be able to do that. You're telling me they didn't see that on their 42 monitors that they have in the boot. And on the backshed. What should the penalty be? I just told you what the penalty is. Not running out of the race and suspended for a week.

but does the other guy get his spot back? No, I don't think he should get his spot back. Like you're a Phoenix, does he care about beans to spend on the next week? Because there is no next week. Does he care about being? There is the next week. It's Daytona 500. Well, I don't, I mean, there's no way that carries over.

I don't know, man. To me, you send William Byron to the back and Denny Hamlin is stuck where he's at, which sucks for him. But, I mean, that's the way the race played out. But you know what they did? Nothing. Not a damn thing. They didn't do nothing.

They tweeted. No, they did come out and say that they are evaluating potential like penalties for this one. And then I believe there's another incident on pit road that there could be penalties in the future, like such as tomorrow. The pit road deal. Yeah. Does that, do you feel as though that makes a huge difference as far as, well, the impact of the race yesterday doesn't? I'm upset that it's not a plausible explanation. I didn't have eyes on it.

We were not aware. We didn't know this was going on. Uh, bull-h-h-h-h. That's kind of like saying there was 47 cars bearing down on. Yeah, I was just going to bring that up. Yeah, he was down out of the way, but they were going to... I could not do Scott Miller shop. I mean, well, I can't get down.

Because Scott Miller is an awesome dude, very intelligent guy. He's done a lot of different things in this sport and done well with all of it. Richard Childers Racing, Michael Watch Racing, so forth, so on. I could not be that guy that has to go out there and look at all those media people and say something that... I don't know. I have to go, Jason. Get out, TJ. Do you want my pick?

Oh, yeah, you're picking. I'll give my Xfinity X-Fi. More than Fast Moment will be our PR guy for getting Brad to the Porta John before everyone else with the rain hit. Branden Lee. That's good job. Yeah, he did really,

and I was talking to him on the radio and he can't talk back, so it was even more fun. Yeah. I'll go with Ryan Blaney as my pick as well. That's a good pick. He got me a win last year. Well, I had nailed it this week with Kyle,

so. Good job. Yeah. You go into your meeting to talk about how your guy wasn't clear? Is that where you going? No, that's how my guy got run over by AJ. Thanks.

Is that you're one idiot before you leave? Who's your idiot? Who's your idiot? Talking to the mic. Can't leave without an idiot. You know, I got to give it with the, I mean, you got to, I got to give it to Byron for doing that under caution like that. And I'm not sure he meant to do that, but, you know, to me, you just lower, you just put

yourself in the same from Darley Turner this year. Now you're eating. Now you're that level. You were above that level before, but now you're that level. Like you had a one up, now it's gone.

Like in Mario and you hit the little crash mark and get the mushroom, you're one up, now you're down. Should they do something to him? I mean, I don't know. I'll let you answer that.

We've already seen William's struggles with retaliation. Remember where's that, Walkins Glen, where he destroyed his car, trying to run in the Kyle, I think it was. Yeah. But, yeah.

where were we now that the dead weight's been dropped? Let's get in the real stuff now. I don't know. I don't know, man. I don't know. Spot on, spot off. After blowing a tire while leading, Martin Truex Jr. says, Jason, John Reed. Martin Shrex Jr. said in his interview after Brecking,

I don't even know what to say between crappy parts, tires exploding and all the bullshit we're dealing with. It's a joke. There are a lot of people. there's a lot of people who make a lot of money to do this and get this stuff right. That's all I'm going to say about it. Brett, spot on, spot off. I'm spot on for his comments. I'm spot off for the fact that we have gotten to where we got.

But the thing is, man, when you look at a business and as a race team, these guys were able to have their own infrastructure to build cars and parts. And now everything, including the tire gun that you use, is an outside. vendor chosen by NASCAR. So unfortunately, when you take the supply chain and you control it, you have to own the responsibility of that. And they control who the tire manufacturer is. Goodyear pays a lot of money to come in and be the tire manufacturer of NASCAR. Teams pay, oh my gosh, each team's tire bill for the weekend was probably over $20,000

yesterday. Teams pay an astronomical amount of money to those tire companies. But then when you look at the car itself now, NASCAR has got a lot of liability and responsibility in who builds what and how they get it. So they're on the hook for this. Yeah, I mean, this has just been coming. I mean, we've seen Martin standing there flipping off his, you know, everything under the hood of his car last week when the power steering, their rack, the seal blew out of their rack and their end of their race.

Unfortunately, the same thing happened to us at Bristol and it happened to us again yesterday. We ran 220 of 334 laps with little and no power steering. But that was fun. Yeah, luckily it was only 100 degrees. But, you know, it's just, listen, I don't even know where to go

with it. You know, I get the frustration. I get it. I understand last week you could definitely be frustrated with them. Again, tires. Maybe you have to take a little bit of to blame yourself, but it's just, you know, Rodney talks about it. You know, you're at the limitations of what NASCAR's letting you do. And these, the thing that's most frustrating to all these crew chiefs is they know how to fix all these problems and they can't because of the limitations they're under from NASCAR and

had like these shock limiters that, that Rodney was talking about in his tweet, you know, he's saying basically if you get rid of these things, we can naturally lower the car without having to lower the pressure. So now we can get stuff where we want it and run a higher air pressure to make it more safe for the tires. But where do you stand on that? You know, is that, is that a NASCAR problem or is that a team problem? Is that, you know, does that what NASCAR wants? NASCAR doesn't want you low in the back of the car. They want you to run a higher pressure and be safer. I don't know where you stand with that, but obviously we're seeing a lot of issues. And we talked about this all year. Like as the year goes on, these guys are going to figure out ways to go faster and they're going to

figure out ways to kind of cheat the system and find gray areas on these limitations to make things better for themselves. And now you're discovering some of maybe the weaknesses of this car because guys are taking things in direction they're not supposed to. So I don't know where you stand on that. You know, NASCAR's got a box. They want to keep these guys in. These guys can see that the box is not right and they're trying to get ways around it to make their stuff better. I, you know, I don't know. But we do we need to do better because we look pretty foolish the last couple weeks. Well, I'd say the offseason should be interesting. to see what they, what changes they make.

Have you heard anything as far as progress or conversations that teams have been having with them? No, I mean. I'm a spotter. Yeah, I don't hear anything. Countdown the races. Six to go. Joel Edmond sent a tweet out yesterday. Spots for a Camarola.

Did you see what he said? Uh-uh. He sent a tweet out last night. He said, I don't want to misquote him. He said, how do you file a Lemon Law claim asking for several friends? I thought that was pretty funny But that puts it in layman's terms Like you know

I feel like I got a lemon out here How do I get a better car So I thought that was pretty funny Yeah Joel's one of the best people To follow on Twitter if you don't already I think it was a fishing spotter Yeah fishing spotter

You only got to follow them after about 10 o'clock at night Yeah Noah Gregson says I don't want to run any of the cup races The rest of the year After winning the Xfinity Series race spot on spot off if you're a Noah Gragson fan

you should be spot on because he is telling you exactly what's on his mind so if you are a Noah supporter you should be jumping up and down if you're a if you're a person on his cup team you're spot off because

there are several guys who work endless hours long days, long nights, travel away from their families to go race. And the last thing they want to hear is a driver saying he's going to give you 80 to 90 percent. So for me being a guy who thinks Noah is super talented, this just comes down to what do you want people inside of the garage to think about you? And what do you want people outside of the garage think about you? And maybe you don't care, right?

maybe you legitimately could care less what any of them think and you don't have to worry about it. Outside of the sport, outside of the garage fence, I think it's refreshing to see a guy tell you what's on his mind and be honest with you. But he's saying this because he doesn't want to wreck in this car. If this was the old car, I don't think Noah would have this approach. And he's obviously not on the show here today to talk about it. But one thing we do know is he said, he said the next time I win, I'll come on DBC and I think he's won every race since then. Yeah, it's a pretty good run. It's the show.

I mean, people should just be begging to get on here. He's tied now with Sam Ard for the most wins. In a row, right? In a row, yep. Yeah. He said that on here. You know, when he was on here, he said, I'm scared to direct that cup car and I don't run it as hard as I run the Xfinity car.

The fact of the matter is, he has nothing to gain in the Cup series this year, and he has everything to lose in the Xfinity series. You're running for a championship, and we've seen, listen, Kurt Busch is out for months now. with a wreck that did not look that hard. I mean, he spun out and backed in the wall, you know, coming up to speed on his qualifying lap. So, you know, we don't know what's going to knock a guy out and what's not,

you know, there's no telling the one wrong shot. And listen, Noah has taken some big hits in his career. I remember Talladega last year, I think it was. He wrecked real bad. And so he knows kind of where his limits are at. And we saw, I mean, we talk about the safety of these cars. we saw Cody Ware yesterday I mean that thing

I don't know what happened in three and four it hung a hard right and he pounded I mean he broke the wall essentially it was the wall was distorted you know after he wrecked and then comes in wide it seemed like wide open I don't know if you know unfortunately I don't know if he's unconscious or if the throttle hung

because of the hard impact but then he wrecked again on the inside wall and pit road barely missing people barely missing that corner that wall which thank God he did hopefully he's okay we've seen him get out We've seen them kind of go down and get taken to the hospital. You never want to see that, but that's just another incidence of this car. Just, you know, these guys are not simply walking away like we've been accustomed to them seeing, you know, over the last whatever 20 years or so.

So it's just, you know, I just hope that there's something in the works. I hope there's something, you know, these cars just have to, the driver is absorbing the contact, especially in the rear impacts for whatever reason. Hopefully, you know, 2001, we became really safe. but unfortunately that was a reactive move. We had guys, you know, three or four guys get killed in cars and we reacted to it by making the sport much safer. Hopefully, moving forward, we can be proactive and get these things safer before somebody seriously gets hurt.

Again, we're not reacting to that later on. So I just think, I mean, it's kudos to Noah. You know, a lot of these guys are afraid to say what Noah is saying, whether it be PR reasons or sponsor reasons. Again, I agree with Brett. If I'm a sponsor or maybe a colleague race, I'm not really thrilled to hear that Noah is going to go out. there and give you 80%, but I don't blame them.

You know, like he cannot risk getting hurt and throwing away a chance of the Xfinity Series championship. You say that Noah has nothing really the game by running in the Cup Series, but the Xfinity series cars are completely different than the Cup Series car. So if I were petty GMS, I would want him to be getting as much experience as possible, right? So knowing that he doesn't want to run the car to prep for next year, I mean, that says something too. He doesn't want to reg.

Right. I think that's the thing that people need to hear. but what you don't want to hear as a competitor. Do you want to be his engine tuner? Do you want to be his shot guy in the Cup series? Do you want to be his crew chief right now? And he's telling you he's going to give you 80 to 90%. I mean, no.

You want to be a spotter? No. You want to travel all weekend for that? No. But again, if you're a NOAA fan, appreciate the genuineness here because he's being very transparent. He's being very transparent for the world to hear. And some people, it's tough to swallow for some of the people that are hearing.

I'm proud of him, too, because I did not notice any puke on his fire. when he got out of the car. And it was white, so. Maybe he chewed gum, finally. Solid job. Kyle Larson says, I would like them to demolish the place first

and start over from scratch when asked about fixing Texas Mother Speedway. Spot on, spot off, ready. I'll help him. Let's go. This is spot on. Listen, the only thing worse than having to run a race at that surface yesterday,

that configuration was we had to run a 500-mile race at that configuration, which God, help us that should never happen again if we ever have to go back there. Four hours and 20 plus minutes. Listen, I've got a really, really good idea for a configuration of that place, I think. Anyway, what is it? What they had before?

Like, there was nothing wrong with that for 20 years except for the fact that it wouldn't drive fast. You know, like, I don't understand why we had great racing there, I thought. And then we just went to this ridiculous reconfiguration where there's like 50 yards of racetrack we don't ever even consider using in one and two. You know, I don't need, I mean, there's got to be something done. I think there will be something done. I don't know what it's going to be,

but I think that played a part in North Willicksboro getting the All-Star race because now they have an entire year to go back and change Texas before we go back there. But, I mean, I don't know. We used to put on really good races at Texas, similar to Atlanta. And then we just changed the whole place, and we have not hit our ass since then. And like, I remember the first lap we went on the racetracker, Jamie McMurray was like the first guy out there.

And the second he got like two feet off the white line, he spun right out. And then Danny Hamlin followed him right there, like a couple of labs later and spun right out. The next hour of practice, we were at the start finish line making left turns and lifting out of the throttle. So it's just there, if we're going to do something, I hope, I hope, hope, hope that we don't go to an Atlanta style track. But I, if I had to guess, I would assume that's what may be coming. I hate to say the same thing I just said, but I'm going to have to. If you're a Kyle Larson fan, you should be spot on for what this guy said because he's being very transparent. If you are the owner of NASCAR, if you're the owner of Texas Motor Speedway, if you're trying to sell tickets, if you're trying to get more eyeballs, you have a past champion and one of the best drivers in the world saying, this racetrack sucks.

Well, is that going to make people watch? Is that going to make people buy a ticket? Is that good for the sport leading into the weekend where the race is at Texas Motor Speedway? No. So I am going to have to side with the fan in this situation and be spot off because I don't think the timing of that. I think if he had said it after a wreck, after the race, this weekend or this week, you know, whatever. but to say something that harsh while we're already there, oh, that's a black guy.

Not on him, it's a black guy on the racetrack. Yeah, I was going to say. And we're just coming off of Bristol where our ratings were not great. So if I'm, I don't even know who runs the show anymore, Steve Feltz, Ben Kennedy, Steve O'Donnell, there's a bunch of them, the committee. If I'm the committee, I'm going to call, Kyle, and I'm just going to say, hey, man, we love you. You're great.

You're great for the sport. please don't do that again. Just please come tell us the racetrack sucks. We won't do a damn thing about it, but just come tell us. That might be the problem. I don't know. To Freddie's point, I don't think drivers want to see this turned into an Atlanta-style racetrack because we don't even know how long Atlanta is going to stay an Atlanta-style

racetrack. Like it's going to wear, it's going to weather. The grip level is going to go away. And at some point, that package that we run down there that it tries to mimic a plate race is not going to work there. So it's a shame because Texas is a great market. We've talked about that. Dallas is an awesome city, Fort Worth's an awesome city.

We've got to have a presence there. I mean, we really, really do, especially when you look at, you know, we took away Road America. We took away a race in Joliette. Obviously NASCAR doesn't go back to Iowa anymore. Like that whole Midwest right there, we've got to have a presence. And I hope they figure it out and hope they figured out quick. But honest God, that race was not boring.

I didn't see a boring race all weekend. I saw crazy races. I saw crazy races because tires were blowing and guys were wrecking. But when they were racing, the racing was terrible. Like you couldn't pass. Listen, like wherever you came out, you've seen guys, everybody was on different tire strategies yesterday because people were panicking about putting tires on.

And the 38 car, we were no power steering right around in the back and blew by him. The next thing I know, I look up, he's running third. And nobody near him. And I'm like, what the hell is going on up there? like I well you know I'm trying to fall along the race but we're running the back by ourselves half the time and I'm like chase briscoe same thing blue by him in the back with no power steering we're really I mean we're running like 75 80% probably just trying to make sure above his arms don't fall off and we drive by him and I look up he's running third so it's like you know these it's it's just it's just not conducive to passing it's just I didn't think it was a good race what's the better chance we go there next year and it's a different configuration or the same one I think there'll be some changes for sure I don't know if it's I mean, there has to be, I think. I don't know what it's going to be, but there has to be something different.

What I don't understand, Jason, I'm not a civil engineer or whatever kind of engineer it takes to build roads and racetracks. But why in the hell can we not take Homestead as great as it is with a progressive banking and Bristol, as great as it is with a progressive banking to actually go race on and do something similar at Texas? I don't understand why we can't do that because we talked about it last week with Justin Haley. you're in the corner longer. Those corners are huge at Texas. So you're in the corner a very long time. Why can't we go in there and make it more racy? Because it used to be awesome.

I mean, when you go back, look at the victory photo from when Elliott Sadler won Texas in, man, probably 03, 04, he and Casey Kane are door to door. And Casey was running the high line and Elliott was running a low line. And it was an amazing race for the finish. that there's just that's not the case now when when you come out yesterday and you did your restart if you were fast you could drive up the 20th but once you got the 20th you were froze and then if you were already inside the top 20 wherever you ended up on your strategy and your pit cycle and your

restart wherever you ended up if you could get in the resin and just rip the top nobody was passing you moving on joe lagano says super speedway racing is not racing because drivers finishing up front are the ones riding around in the back. Do you believe you should be rewarded for not working is what he said. Spot on, spot off, Brett? I'm spot off. You know, nobody makes choice. I don't go up there and race hard.

I think it's part of his mentality, part of who he is as a person. And he's obviously had a lot of success as a plate racer. I think right now they're probably in the fastest plate cars that are out there. But I'm spot off. I think everybody's got to just weigh their own risk, Right. So, you know, if I'm Justin Haley and I'm going into this race, I'm going to race my tail off in every facet of the race. But when there's five laps to go in stage one and five laps going stage two, I'm probably going to bail. Because why would I tear my car up? Why would I wreck when points aren't that important to me?

I think it's more important to get to the end of the race because a guy like Justin Haley, you know, obviously full time this year, he needs to get experience. and he needs to learn the tendencies of what the other drivers do in certain situations, and they need to learn to trust him. You can't do that riding around in the back. You got to get up in there. You got to mix it up with them. But once you say there are five laps to go in stage one, he has nothing to gain, only everything to lose.

Because the odds of them wrecking are higher potentially than they've ever been, because you're going to have, this is, I don't want to say it's the most dangerous plate race of the year, but it's the most aggressive. The dangerous in terms of wrecks can happen because these points have not been more important than they are for these playoff drivers. The playoffs are cramped. I mean, you look at who's out. There's two guys that are out by 30 points with Bell and Bowman. Everybody else is squeezed in.

But let me tell you something. If Bell or Bowman goes out there win stage one and win stage two, they're right back in it with the points. So everybody that's a playoff driver has got to be a crazy crazy aggressive to end these stages to try to get points. Yeah, we see, you know, you talk about Daytona being a cutoff race, but when we get there, like there's a majority of the field is going for the win, and there's

usually, like I think we saw this year, it was two guys, right? It was Truex and Blaney that needed stage points. Now you've got 12 guys, 13, really, if you count Bubba, that need stage points. So, you know, the heightened, it'll tense up there. But I feel like we see this, and we see this topic

every year about whether or not the Super Speedway should be in the playoffs, and it absolutely should be. I think we should run one track of every one of our disciplines in the playoffs. And we have, you know, a mile and a halfs. We have short tracks, road courses, a mile track and a super speedway. And they're all in the playoffs and they should be because that's what we do all year long. And to Brett's point, like if Joey doesn't want to get caught up in a wreck because people were being aggressive, he can go back there and quote unquote, not work with the rest of the guys that are riding in the back.

It's just, it's a strategy play. It's no different than every race we go to, you have different strategies. And some guys, me and Bubba, we've talked about this a thousand times. we are on the aggressive side. Joey is the most aggressive plate racer there is out there. And we are aggressive because we feel that gives us the best chance to win the race.

These guys that ride around in the back, the Corey the Joy's, the Ryan Priest did it for a while. There's a lot of guys. We saw in the last race. People were making millions of dollars on the Rick Ware cars and BJ McLeod finishing the top 10.

They're not going to finish top 10 if they go up there and try to race all day long. You know, so that's their play. They might not win the race, but if you are right, are you on the racetrack with a clean race car with five to go? You're going to be in the top 15. You're probably going to be in the top 10.

So listen, I don't understand what Joey of all people is he's literally the most aggressive plate racer. So if he's talking, I get why he thinks that it's not right. If he wrecks being aggressive and then these guys just collect finishes, but I can't really get on board that. I'm definitely spot off. Yeah, I don't know the sense that he said it's not racing, but it 100% is racing. Yeah. Do you see, to your point, with all of the playoff drivers really fighting for stage points, do you see them staying in the back and then going towards the front at the end of each stage,

which could cause a wreck, or do you see it being consistent? You can't. You don't ever know, man. I mean, I've seen Denny before take the green and go to the back and right around. And obviously, you know, halfway through the stage, decided to make his move. I've seen, like, I know, blocking like crazy up front the whole race. I don't not see. let me rephrase that. I see Lugano, Blaney, Ross Chastain. I see them guys

buckling the belts up tight as they and getting them and racing every single lap like it's the last lap and trying to keep track position, trying to stay in the front. But, I mean, there is no perfect recipe. I've been very fortunate to have some success at plate tracks in my career, but I've been wrecked leading, literally leading the race and got wrecked. I've been wrecked riding around in the back trying to miss a wreck because you start you call a caution out and you say hey spin in front of you da da da da da da da da next thing you know a lap car with a bad spot or bad driver drives through the back of you and just destroys your car so there is no perfect recipe if there was we'd all do the exact same thing yeah it's it's it's all about timing it's all about um how aggressive these guys are and they're going to be aggressive yeah you can't you can't win a rate you can't win stage points you can't if you're not aggressive you're not going to be able to run around the back and get stage points.

You know, that's just there's no way to go. All right, there's five to go. I'm going to drive back up and in the front because by then it's usually two and three wide and there's not a lot of momentum. There's not a lot of places to go. So if you're not aggressively in the top, like I think if we're like normally, if I'm running 15th or worse with Bubba and I see there's not really lanes moving and we get to like three or four to go to Brett's point on where you get we bail out

normally because there's just nowhere to go. And if you do try to make something happen, that's usually when you put yourself at the highest risks. I mean, if you listen like the, the Joey's point about these races. and this goes across all racing. It was the first rule I learned in racing. To finish first, you first must finish. That's the last thing I say to Bubba.

Every race before, if you listen to the radio, it's be there at the end. You got to be there at the end. And that's what these guys do. They maximize their ability to be there at the end of the race. Drivers like Bubba, drivers like Joey, we're putting ourselves at a much higher risk

to try to win the race versus be there at the end. Because listen, to like to Brett's point, you don't know, majority of the time the wreck happens up front or, you know, mid, 10th or a show. you know where the eye of the storm is, but I have no, there's no reason to knock these guys for doing what's best for them by saying they're back there not working. That's that's assinine to me. Well, if I'm a fan, I won't want to miss this one for sure. Now, this will be to the,

you'll get your money's worth. But again, you got a guy saying, we're not racing at Talladega. Is that going to help sell tickets? Is that going to help give viewership? No, it's not. I promise you they're racing at Talladega. It is going to be exciting. Um, the fact that, listen, most drivers come into the sport and they like plate racing. But then once they get older and they get kids and they realize how dangerous it is, then they start hating plate racing. And I think I've said this before, you know, Elliot and his last year's driving, he said to me in a motorhome.

He said, I know me and you're really good at this together, but I hate this. And we went out and won the race that day. Doesn't mean he loved it, right? because, again, your risk level as a driver goes up of wrecking at that track, and you're out of control a lot of times as to how that wreck starts and whether or not you get in it. That's hard to swallow. But part of what we do. Four times a year, we do it.

Five, if you want to count Atlanta. What's the protocol for cautions of hurricanes approaching the racetrack? Just let me get the lead and we'll throw the checker. NASCAR in the past has done a great job of monitoring these types of scenarios very closely. I remember being at Richmond and they simply canceled everything for a day or two, you know, put us on hold, did the same thing at Atlanta, I believe, years ago. So I have full confidence that they're not going to ask us to fly into a hurricane to get to Talladega to do tech. I have full confidence that they're going to monitor this and for once not let TV dictate what we're going to do.

If we need to move the race to Monday, move the race to Monday. At the end of the day, the only thing that matters is, safety for everybody. That is for the fans. And look, our fans are crazy. They're, they're awesome, but they're awesome crazy. They'll show up. Hurricane or not. They're going to show up with their fifth wheels and their pop-up campers and their Coleman tents. They don't give us, they're crazy. So we got to help them not be put in a bad situation. We've got to monitor this situation very closely. And literally, we're not going to open our campgrounds until this day and this time. Do not bring your RV. Do not bring your travel trailer.

Do not bring anybody. Stay at home until we know what's going on. So I think NASCAR in today's world and having experienced what they've done in these situations in the past, I think they make the right move. The hard part is it's a hurricane. God only knows where it's going. I only think God knows where it's going. It shifted like further south, even in the last hour as I look.

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But brisco forgot that he had breaks Now the pasta's getting high It's going to hell It's time for reaction theater Man, I get off work, I go home Have me a couple beers I turn on the NASCAR race and swear these beers are working way too good.

So I feel like I went back in time to the 2008 Brickyard 400 with all these damn tire issues. I mean, oh my God, this is ridiculous. The drivers who are leading the race can't trust it. Harvick's going to go off on Goodyear. Oh, there should be a good week next week in Talladega. I think people had some short-term memory loss because that indie race was way worse. That indie race was what? Eight to ten laps, they were blowing tires.

Yeah, the problem was Del Jr. was the one, having them, the biggest problem. And we didn't want him to fall out of the race. So we had to keep them cautious to keep a minute. But I actually, I don't recall a lot of violent wrecks. I don't recall a lot of hard hits that day. I recall NASCAR being backed into a corner and knowing or deciding to throw, everybody wanted blowing tires. Robert Y. Racing,

Elliott Sadler, we were not blowing tires. We were in contention to win that race all day. I was pissed off they were throwing the cautions. You got what you got, right? So I thought NASCAR did a great job yesterday of letting us race it out. But at the end of the day, I thought yesterday was much worse because of the danger aspect. The crashes were violent. We know about this car and the drivers complaining about it.

So having spotted that race at Indy, was it worse? from a PR standpoint? Yes. Was it worse from a competition standpoint? No, I thought yesterday

was worse. Good year needs to get their shit together. NASCAR spent all this money, got these cars and whatever to run faster in the middle of the corner, but we don't have a tire that can stand it.

It's ridiculous. Also, hey, I guess if you guys have a racing incident, you can now just dump people under caution and no one gives a shit. I don't fucking understand that. Byron's a baby.

Hamlin should have just wrecked them. It is what it is. Good year needs to get the fuck together. He ain't wrong about anything. Pandor's boxes open on this wrecking each other under the yellow right here. He doesn't understand NASCAR didn't see it. And listen, man, what Byron did was wrong. What Denny did after the fact was wrong.

What NASCAR did about it was wrong. Yeah, I mean, we'll see. Maybe if they do something tomorrow, which I don't know what they do, because listen, you know, Denny didn't get, Denny didn't spin William out, but Denny went up there and made contact with him. And if you're asking for penalties on Byron. But here's my problem of what Denny did.

Denny was not supposed to be up there according to the lineup. So if I'm the race director, why am I allowing him to be up there and do the quote David Hoots, the Jimmy Jacking? Had the lineup been set during that time, like already? They finally called him out somewhere to go around back there near Austin Cendrick. But again, why do you think he's up there? Should we not maybe investigate that?

We literally could have a two-hour show. I wish Denny would have dropped in here this morning and Hale brought Byron with him. I mean, we could always add a show this week if any would like to join us. Yeah, it's, it's, I, Pandor's box once again has been blown open and they are going to have to make

a really tough decision on what they're going to do here. Because if they do nothing, they are telling these drivers, fair game. Fair game when the caution comes out. may I just wrecked the guy. You won't ever see him the rest of the race. William Byron didn't see Denny Hamling again rest of the race after the Jimmy Jacket. If I am the race series director, I am losing my mind on both these guys and I'm putting both of them to the rear

is what I'm doing in a live situation. But I'm not the race director and they didn't know what was going on. Actually, I'm not putting Denny to the rear. I'm putting Byron to the rear and Denny has to maintain where he's at. Yeah. Yeah. Denny goes wherever he blended. But Denny going up there and Jimmy Jacking with him. I'm putting him to the rear for that. Yeah. Yeah. So actually both of them. It's essentially the same thing. He just didn't spin William out. I'm sending them both to the rear for Jimmy Jacking. I just think it's funny that all race long, they were having Goodyear tires blow out left and right. And then Jason, I mean Tyler, crosses the finish line and does a 20-minute burnout and all the tires stay up.

Burnout has nothing to do with load in the center of a corner. Yeah. It's that they're not related at all. I'm sure this guy's a really nice, intelligent, good-looking young man, old man, but a burnout does not wear a tire out in the sense of causing it to fail because of load. Correct. Bless his heart. I like Denny, and I do believe he's Hall of Fame talent.

If he can get a championship under his belt at the end of his career. but by God, go punch that William Byron in the face after this race and if you're going to sit here and talk about it, go wreck raw shastain. Stop giving empty promises and follow through on your commitments. Wreck them both, fight them both. I don't care.

Just punch somebody. Danny has thrown a punch before. Who did he punch? I can't tell you. Oh. It's a secret. That's a secret. Is it really a secret, though?

I forgot about that. I think you know who he punched. Look, this is drama, man. This is why we got a playoff. This is why people get eliminated. This is high stress levels. I think it's fun to see a lot of people siding with Denny. Because Denny has a lot of people that can't stand him.

And it seems in this scenario, a lot of people are going anti-William Byron. I'm saying I kind of surprised at that. And William Byron is a really nice guy. It just goes to show you. Probably one of the nicest guys. When they put that helmet on and it's all on the line, they lose their money. mind. They turn into a completely different human being because, yeah, but I, man, who tomorrow should be interesting. And the freaking place is going to get burnt down no matter what.

You're going to have Rick Hendrick on the phone today lobbying his side. You're going to have Joe Gibbs on the phone lobbying his side. Joe Gibbs might have a lot of lobbying to do. Do you see? I did. I did. That was not good. No, it was not. I mean, we can talk about for a second. It's in my notes for a word. I didn't know where we were going to bring it up. Let's do what it needs. Okay.

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And be sure to give us a follow on Twitter and Instagram at Speed StreetPod. It is time for the AskDBC Offerpad question of the week. Send in your questions on Twitter each week using hashtag AskDBC and we'll answer the best ones. This first one is from Don't we or do we Should there be a mandate That all tracks install a wall

Between the track and pit road To protect the crews and fans Which obviously is in reference to Cody Wears wreck Yes, the answer is yes And I've said this for over a decade There is no reason we should have an exposed pit road And yesterday just scream that Fortunately no one was injured on pit road

As a result of the wreck But if you go back and look man the 48 pit crew guys, as do all the pit crew guys, they sit on the wall with their back to the racetrack. And if one guy's radio isn't working at that moment in time and listen to me, it happens, an injury occurs. If there is a car in a pit stall anywhere near there, for the next four pit stalls, people are going to be injured. To Freddie's point, we're reactive about a lot of things. If we can have a pit wall outside to protect the crew guys, and it isn't about the fans.

the fans shouldn't really be in a position to get hurt, but I'm not saying they couldn't. But if you're looking at this thing, we should not have one single pit road that is exposed to the crew guys on tour. If we can have an outside pit wall at Darlington, at Dover, at Indianapolis, at Michigan, we can figure out how to have a pit wall, an outside pit wall at everywhere. And it's really not that hard. You don't need to have, obviously, a straight edge, but you can have a curved edge, put some tires and whatnot around. to keep the impact softer. We have got to fix this today. We should not ever see another car hit pit wall that hard again in our lives.

It's just dumb luck. And thank God that it wasn't in the middle of a green flag cycle or something like that. What if it's this? What if it's qualifying? Yeah. What if it's qualifying in that pit road is lined with race cars and crew guys that are pushing their car? What happens if it's qualifying?

That was just, you're going to kill people. Don't forget, this was after, this was, Christopher Bell had been on and off pit road and Christopher's pit was right before it. So it could have been extremely bad. There's too many variables that make this too dangerous. Cody Ware was not, quote, wrecked. He wrecked on his own accord. It appeared that he didn't have control of his race car after he wrecked.

It appeared to me he was still somewhat in the gas pedal. and boom, he nails Pitwall. We cannot have humans exposed to that risk. And you have the opportunity to fix it, fix it. This next one is from Jared Coates 24. Who will Denny Hamlin repay first? And who's the bigger threat to him? What do you guys think?

I don't think, listen, as long as Denny's in the playoffs and Denny has a chance to win races, he's not going to retaliate to either one of these guys. You know, I think you saw the level of retaliation at Pocono. You know, he's going to put Ross on a bad spot if they're racing hard with each other. I'm sure he's going to do the same thing to William now if they're racing around each other. But he's not going to go out of his way to wreck a guy and potentially, you know, he's still trying to win a championship.

If he falls out of the playoffs now and one of them two guys are still in there, maybe then he messes with him a little bit. But you don't want to get into a damn war while you're, six races left, and he's still probably one of the fastest cars left in the playoffs. He's got a great shot to win a championship. You're not going to get yourself into a war right now and risk that.

So, I mean, he's not going to pay anybody, I don't think, until he falls out of the playoffs. Hamlin is eight points to the good. He's eight points above the cutoff. He's very much so still alive in this championship picture. I think, if I'm Danny Hamlin, it comes down to this. How many points did William Byron

cost me in that race yesterday? And he and Chris Gabe Hart know exactly. what that number is. If I miss going on to the next round by that many points or less, I'm going to pay his ass back in the next stage because he cost me, he robbed me of that many points simply because I was racing him hard. If I am Danny Hamlin as it pertains to the Ross Chastain situation, once I'm out of the playoffs, I'm going to do what I said I was going to do and I'm going to pay him back. Yeah, I mean, for one, you're not going to, nobody's paying anybody back this week. Obviously, Taladego. I mean, and if Danny's having,

having a bad day at the roval and looks like he's going to be out maybe that's a place you pay a guy back mortonsville is usually the place a lot of these scores get settled so you know you'll see what happens but like i said as long as he's in contention and in the playoffs he's not going to do anything all right who's our offer pad question of the week whichever one you like Casey I like the guy I like the guy I like the guy's don't we or do we name that's all right done took me a few minutes they'll like oh that's what that is just like that's creative all right congrats to don't we or Dewey for having this week's Offerpad question of the week. Two great questions, though.

It's time for us to get to our favorite X-Fi moments from this week. Whether you are behind the wheel or online, speed isn't the only thing you need. So what were your favorite more than fast moments this week? My more-than-fast moment is actually T.J. and how fast he left the studio before we got to talk about the wreck that he and his driver calls in that Xfinity race. T.J. is swearing up and down that AJ drove through his driver. And did AJ not lift?

It sure looks like he did not lift as he made contact. But it also looked like to me that Brandon Brown did not get up in that hole quick enough. So I'll give my Xfinity X5 more than fast moment to TJ on leaving before we got to this. Because he and I were literally screaming at each other before the show started about it. One of my favorite things is just to get T.J. going and then just watch him talk to himself. Because I tweeted thanks a lot. You know, we were the ones that suffered all of this. you know, I'm sure Brandon got knocked out of the race,

but I mean, we got right hooked into the wall and knocked our race. You know, Lannon took a pretty big shot to the driver's side, which is never good and then knocked us out of the race. So I sent him a text and I was like, hey, thanks a lot. You guys wrecked us. I'm, well, you know, what the hell? And then he just continued to post pictures and I didn't even answer anymore.

I just like to get them talking to him. That's my favorite part about TJ. We don't know. Expendiia X5. I'll tell you what. I'm going to give mine to Chase Briscoe. I don't know how in the world they finish in the top five, and this is to the point

of that racetrack and this tire and everything else, but they were literally, when I looked back, they were like one of the last three or four cars on the racetrack all night long and somehow got a top five out of that deal. So kudos to him, his team, I'll give my Xfinity X-Fi more than a fast moment of Chase Briscoe.

What T.J say, his X-Five more than fast moment was his Brad's PR rep. Oh, yeah. What was it? Yeah, I forget. I'm forgetting to the bathroom, I think. Yeah. Good job. Yeah. Thanks, TJ. Here on Doorbubber Clear being more than fast as a way of life. Thankfully, there's plenty of weekly action for our Xfinity X5 more than fast moments.

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Oh, time for What an idiot Which I imagine this might be a long one Oh boy I remember I had like six Remember I said I hadn't have anyone I got here The whole show I just been accumulating them I'm like oh

That's good idea I remember that one now I remember that one I gave this guy Oh what an idiot I think the last time I were Talladega Because I said he was flipping me off

flipping somebody off As he calls the wreck He called me And he said I want to talk to you about it I wasn't flipping anybody And I said, okay, you weren't flipping anybody off. Your hand was at the window.

And I take back the fact that you were not flipping anybody off. You were shaking your fist or whatever it is. Props for his sick of college. Major, major maturity on this kid's part over the course of the last several months, had an opportunity to walk into the Bristol racetrack, say hello to him. But Ty Gibbs cannot and should not be swerving at drivers on purpose on pit road. and I realize he's got his helmet on. I realize he's going to say he had no idea that people could have been harmed when he did what he did.

But he's just got to mature again on this level here. Because if you're on pit road, people are also always in some way, shape or form on pit road and on the side of the wall where their cars are. It's essentially like pitting a race car on I-77 here in Charlotte. That's what it's like. You've got people running around on the interstate. So on the interstate, you can't be swerving at each other when you know you might hurt somebody. I think he's going to go back and see that replay. I think he's going to learn from it.

I think he's going to mature from it. And I think he's going to be really, really sorry that he made that mistake and had that lapse in judgment. But because he did it, I got to give it. I still love you, Ty, but you got to give it to you, man. We've seen, like you talked about, we've seen Ty mature. And there's just these little moments where anytime he has a moment to think now, like it seems like he does the right thing. But we've seen these little moments of when something happens,

he reacts immediately and and it's and it's been wrong a couple times and to your point yeah it just can't happen I saw it yesterday during the race and I was like ooh that was a that was a bad look and then the video looks even worse from the from the end of pit road but so I can't disagree with you there um two of mine before one did you see this I mean I guess he's an idiot uh Andrew Grady from Martinsville went viral this week for I mean he is way laying this guy while he's sitting in his car, punching the hell out of him with his helmet on. Where do you think that's getting you?

Like, the guy's got his helmet on. I would like to know what his... And then he punches him about 27 times in the head with his helmet on and then steps back and just kicks the door. Yeah. What does that feel like with a racing shoe on? He'll be lucky if he didn't break his foot with a...

I mean, you're talking about a reason. You ain't wearing a sneaker. You're wearing a damn racing shoe. There's not a lot of support there. But that's really not... I can't give him my ultimate... What an idiot.

And unfortunately, I don't know, this is probably going to get me called to the hauler. But, oh, God. My, what an idiot has to be who's ever in control of the NASCAR Weekly Racing Series to where we have a champion that it thinks he won the championship on Saturday night when the racing's done. And then he gets called on Tuesday and said, actually, just kidding. We went back and reviewed some finishes here and there. And you didn't actually win. We're going to give it to this other guy. And listen, this, I'm going to be honest,

this NASCAR Weekly Racing Series deal has been a joke for a long time with guys filling the field with their own cars and sticking guys out there to start and park. Like, you've got to do a better job of figuring this out. And there's no way you can go into the last night or the last weekend without a cut and dry, cleared picture of what each guy needs to do because they were racing. On the last night, they race each other head to edge.

Which driver thought he won the championship? So Peyton Sellers thought he won the championship. He thought he needed to do. I mean, I could go into an hour long conversation about what he needed to do. But he won a race at Old Dominion Speedway last week on Saturday night against Lane Riggs. He heads up. Lane Riggs, son of former driver Scott Riggs. He beat him heads up, thought he made up the difference in the points to win the championship.

They went back and reviewed it and came back and said back in August and sometime, you had a guy driving one of your cars that didn't technically have a NASCAR license. so we're deleting his two finishes and you actually lost. I think they tied and he had the tiebreaker. So instead of actually tying, you lost by four points. And it's like, you know,

this whole deal has just been a joke. But I don't understand. Like if you're moving forward, please, please, please. Before we, if you want to do audits and check all these score finishes out, do it before the last night. So these guys know what they have to do the last night.

Because I assure you, Peyton, if Peyton would have known he was down by six or eight instead of four, he would have, because he took, he sat out the second race or drove a different car or something thinking he had the championship locked up. So it's the whole thing's a game and it just needs to be cleared up. It's super convoluted.

It's always been that way. I mean, I remember one guy won a Greenville Pickens because I think he fielded the entire field at one point. Be Keith Rocco. But it's just, you know, that whole deal is a joke. It's been a joke for a long time and it's just,

they're not helping themselves this year at all. All right. Let's move on to DBC picks. Well, Freddie wins DBC picks at Texas with Ryan Blaney. Brett leads with six wins. Jason, 08, sorry.

Brett leads with eight wins. Jason and Freddie tied for second with seven. T.J. in third with five, and I'm in last with four. You can beat T.J. I'll just say, we should just let her win. You can beat T.J.

Honestly, we should just let her win a couple of weeks. No, it's fine because Reddick told me who the pick last week and he screwed me and he already agreed to help pay for dinner. So, I'm just, I'm just going to come to dinner. He said he's like, if I can go, I'll help. He's got to beat TJ.

Just try to beat TJ. Let's go. All right. Who did TJ pick? DJ picked Ryan Blaney. All right. I will go with Bubba. What the fuck?

Sons of B. Jason. I'll pick Austin Cedrick. Right. I have been ice cold. Freddie has been hot. I mean, he's got a bunch of good picks here. He's got like a second, fourth and a fourth.

I thought I was going to have this thing yesterday. man, Larson was one of the faster cars. I don't know if I want Lugano or if I want Hamlin, but I got to be, I got to be aggressive here. Denny seems to be there at the end. I'm going to go with Denny. I am going to take Brad Keselowski. Like it.

Heading into Talladega. No, we talked about this a lot. What are you guys thinking we can expect besides some really tight stage ends? I think you're going to see. just a crazy race. You know, I hate the comment from years ago when somebody said,

we're not in the racing business, we're in the entertainment business. I still feel like our hardcore fans and our fan base are racers at heart, and they want to see a good, pure race. And that's what you're going to get this weekend. It's going to be, I would be,

if I were a driver, I would be very methodical in how I manage the first half of those, those two first two stages. Stage one and stage two. Like I'd almost like to go tell my buddies, hey, there's no need to us all wrecking right here, you know, on lap 10 and destroying all our cars. They do have a driver group chat.

If I were in that group chat with them, I would say, hey, let's try not do a lot of three and four wide. Is it really going to be worth it? But if you're at Todd Gilliland, you might not give a shit what the playoff drivers have going on. So there's a lot of different strategies, a lot of different goals. Obviously, a playoff driver has yet to win.

a playoff race. Tyler Rex out of playoffs and he won this past weekend. So will we see a trend where will this be four in a row? We'll playoff driver? It would be five of another one wins. Yeah. So I just think a lot of great storylines. I think the minus the tire debacle that's kind of put a black eye on us as an industry, you know, and I put that black eye more on the garage and I do the fan. Like if I'm a fan

and I'm watching yesterday, if my favorite driver wrecks, yeah, I'm going to be mad because it's my favorite driver but the fans don't need to worry about those kind of things they need to worry about sitting down watching a good race watching these guys give it their all and that's what you're going to get at the end of stage one with 10 to go the end of stage two with 10 to go and the majority of stage three and if you get to go there too tall dega does a great job of really having entertainment over the course of the weekend it is a fun weekend for sure and we you know we've talked about in the past these guys are these drivers are you know they can be superheroes you know what I mean? And we talked about

just their mindset and we know the inherent dangers of these cars and we heard Noah Gragson talk about he's not going out there because he's worried about wrecking himself. You're going to see guys laying it on the line this week knowing that there's a much higher risk for a wreck at much higher speeds, but they don't

really seem to care because they want to win the race. And this is just the mindset of these drivers. If you can't respect these guys for climbing in these cars and running the speeds they're going to run on Sunday and so even Saturday throughout the weekend. You know, it's, it's, it's pretty remarkable that they can do that with a clear mind and

knowing what we know about these cars and stuff already, just for them to buckle in and give it their all. And you'll see Joey Laganel, you'll see Bubba, you'll see Danny, you'll see these guys being making super aggressive moves early in these races and throughout the whole race, really, knowing that they're just kind of throwing caution to the wind and doing whatever they got to do to win the race. It's going to be in the 70s all weekend. Fall brawl weather, a nice break from us.

a 90-degree heat. They are calling for some rain, obviously, from the hurricane. Keep your eyes on that. But, man, there's nothing better in the month of October, you know, to be in the South, all the college football games going on on a Saturday, NASCAR racing going on on a Saturday. The next day you got all the NFL games and a freaking cup race Talladega. You're a sports fan. What a great weekend.

I personally would pick Talladega over going to an NFL game. Having done a lot of sporting events in my life, I would set up. up camp. I would have my TVs to watch the football. I'd be on top of an RV drinking a cold beer watching a race live at Talladega. It's one of the best experiences as a sports fan you'll ever have. Trust me, Talladega in October, when it's raining, is a good day. Yeah. All right. Well, thank you all so much, as always, for listening. Thank you to our incredible presenting sponsor Offer Pad. And Monday show will be a good one.

Yeah. We got Charlotte the week after, which is always fun. A lot of good things to do here in Charlotte for people that are coming in town. A lot of fan days. Freddie and I are heading up to the Collegiate fan day for that week. Jerry, I'm doing anything, Jason? You know of? No, I know.

So it's just, it's awesome, man, to race back home. So I look forward to these two weeks a lot. I mean, it's when the schedule comes out, you're like, man, I love going to Talladega and I love being home in Charlotte. So kickoff October in a very fun way. Obviously, Brett's Cancer Awareness Month. You'll see a lot of NASCAR support in that space for that. I loved a month of October.

One of my favorite months. The leaves change colors, the cool, gets cooler. Min spice latte season. Cooler. Cooler. It gets closer to deer hunting season.

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