Door Bumper Clear - 279 - Daytona 500: There WAS a plan...

Episode Date: February 20, 2023

Brett Griffin, T.J. Majors and Freddie Kraft are back on Door Bumper Clear to recap the action from the Daytona 500. The guys discuss why the superspeedway package for the NASCAR Cup Series makes it difficult to pass, whether or not Kyle Busch and Austin Dillon should have started on the front row on the last restart during Sunday’s race, and what aspect of the TV broadcast fans were complaining about the most.In Spot On, Spot Off, (27:07) the table discusses why there should be changes to the Daytona 500 practice schedule, how JR Motorsports should have won the Xfinity Series race on Saturday, which driver mistakenly blamed Brad Keselowski for a late-race wreck, and why Kyle Busch needs to move on from the Joe Gibbs Racing split. In Reaction Theatre, (58:12) hear what fans have to say about Cup Series cars being slower than Xfinity Series cars, a driver’s new hair, and a recap of Sunday’s race in song form. Want more DBC? Check out and subscribe to the new DBC YouTube channel! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

The following is a production of Dirty Moe Media. Door, bumper, clear. Clear by two. Preach really shallow entry. Hey, everybody. I'm T.J. Majors, Spotter of the six-cup car, the 8xfinity, the O2 truck, and the 73 Arka car. God, that's a lot of working.

I needed your help. No. You did not need my help. What's your comment around trucks, Brett? Mm, fuck a truck. Brett Griffin's Spotter for Collie Racing. over the weekend. I spotted one race and here we are

the morning after. You kind of spotted half a race. One of the best races every year. Kind of. What's up? Freddie Kraft. I wish I stuck to my truck plan on Friday night. Oh no, you got 24 more weeks to enjoy that. Good luck. Spotter for

Bubba Wallace, spotter for Chandler Smith on Saturday and Derek Kraus in the 20 truck on Friday. And I had about the worst speed weeks I've ever had my entire life. So that was no fun. How are you, Casey? Oh, I'm just swell. Casey Boat here. I don't even know what my title is anymore. Back from Daytona. Make one up like you always do. Well, let's just see how the show goes and I'm sure I'll keep finding one at the end. Back from Daytona,

the longest recorded Daytona 500, that 230 laps and Ricky Stenhouse stole the show at the end. besides your finishes that we can get into after, what do you guys think of the speed weeks or weekend? Kind of a weird weekend. Getting there and right to qualify. I mean, it was kind of weird. Yeah, I mean, speed weeks was always the best because we were down there for what?

Two weeks. Just to be 10 days. Yeah, 10 days. You know, I was actually down there for 10 days, I think. But, you know, we used to go down early, practice, qualify on the first weekend, have a couple days off, then go back on... It just didn't feel like the Daytona 500 to me this year for some reason.

It wasn't a buildup. It was just the... It seemed like more of a normal race weekend where we were there for, you know, we got most guys... What did you guys fly on on Wednesday? I fly on Wednesday, yeah. So you're there Wednesday, you're home Sunday. I was there.

I was there Friday for some stuff in New Smyrna. But... I enjoyed the short track racing during the week. We flew in on Thursday and there was the big NASCAR Media Day all day Thursday. I'll never forget the year. The first year they did it. stations were literally taking hours. And Elliot and all the guys

have been sitting out there to go into this one trailer. And I'm talking about for two hours. And Rollsdale Earnhardt. Guess what Del Earnhardt did? Walked right in. He went straight into the booth, broken line, did his session,

came back out. Guess what they said to him? Nothing. Not a fucking word. Nope. This guy rolled in, did media day in five minutes. The rest of us have been there for half a day.

But anyway, man, you do media. There's something to that, though. There's something to that. Like, that's the intimidator. Yeah, I know, but that's like, yeah, and that would have been, man, that would have probably been 2000 or 2001 when they started the big media day, right? And then like you said, man, Friday, you know, we'd practice and do all those things. Single car runs and you didn't pull out front of somebody.

Saturday, we'd run the clash. You know, Sunday, literally all the drivers had to do was wake up and make one lap. So Saturday night, they'd all go out and have fun, have drinks. We had Monday, Tuesday off, but most guys just stayed down there and played golf. And then we fired up on Wednesday and we went hard from Wednesday. day morning until Sunday night. And so it did put off a completely different vibe than what we, you know, had this weekend in terms of product on track, stuff on TV, a lot of stuff to talk about.

Definitely changed, man. I got to tell you, though, the end of that race, they finally got going. Like, they finally all got aggressive. I noticed. We saw three wide for a couple laps. That was probably my biggest disappointment in this race. And I said on this show weeks ago, I think this package needs a lot of work. It's personally my least favorite super speedway package I've ever seen.

because we cannot go three wide for long amounts of time. And like I told Freddie last night, a text message. The more times you're saying three wide and four wide on your radio, the better the race is going to be at Daytona Talladega. And then I literally said, how many times did you say it? I mean, if I ever said it, I don't remember. I never remember ever being like in the beginning of the race, Bubba made some ground up. The only way to make, it reminded me of Archer racing.

Like, an Arka racing is the way it is because the guys aren't experienced enough to be able to generate runs. but it's just two lanes and you can't go anywhere. The only way you can make up any ground we did it in the beginning was you kind of hunt the middle. And if you can get to the middle of the guy in front of you, like if you're in the top lane or the bottom lane, really, if you get to the middle, eventually you're going to weed that guy out to the top. Who's ever on the top is going to be chucked because everybody comes back to the middle.

So you can get rid of one guy at a time and kind of make your way up that way. But there was really, if you were in the back, you were kind of stuck in the back. There's no more like you go to, you know, we used to be able to go, okay, if it was last year, say, it was Bubba, Justin, and Brad in the back, the three of us get together and go, hey, we're going to get a run in the three. We're going to jump to the top. We're going somewhere. And we would make progress to where we would either get people to come up and help us

or we'd just make progress on our own. There is no more of that. Like if you get two guys to go to the top, they just get shucked out of line. They go to the back. So, yeah, we, I don't know. We've somehow managed our two most popular forms of racing, or super speedways and short tracks, I think. and we've pretty much

both up now. The cars are unbelievably twitchy. They're obviously very unstable and I told TJ this before the show started. It looked like I was watching a race at Atlanta in the fall where Corley Joy was up there and having some success.

A lot of two wide air. You know, you had to be patient. I will say this about the package though. It almost, and we're obviously not racing tandem anymore like we were, but it's almost like when you can watch that 6 and 17 come into each other,

some of the other teams commit to each other. It's like a hybrid tandem. Like if I get through, screwed up, don't leave me. Give me an opportunity to recover it. A couple times yesterday I saw you know, Harvard get let it in, Bell let a teammate in. It's like you got to have

a buddy. Because if you don't have a buddy committed to stay to your bumper to push you, T.J. like you're in deep crap when it goes wrong. Yeah, I don't I still think it's hard to make up ground like you used to, but you know, Kyle went to the back numerous times and came back to the front. We did it two or three times too. Everything you have to make

really it's not you can't get two or three D together and and just make up ground like you used to it's you got to be really calculated and things have to it's just it's hard for sure but the cars are a handful like I noticed like in they're a handful that that's why they can't run three wide well that that's there's a reason why they're a handful too though I mean you saw the cars and you saw one of the front row you know cars that sat on the front row he did not drive good and he was all over the place when he was trying when he was getting pushed and getting help and he was hanging on and going to the corner

turning right. So, and that's a product of. Yeah, yeah. Do you want to be the front row or do you want to handle good? Yeah. And I think there's a balance there you know that you have to try to find and with a long race like that I don't, I mean, yeah, the front row is great. But what do you, does it, you know, what does it give? You know what I mean? I'd

rather have a good handling car and I thought, I mean, I'd rather have a good handling car. And I thought, I mean, I mean, I thought, I mean, yeah, the front row is, I thought, I thought as far as the racing went, you know, we, we were, we were trying to find Chris at all points. And I thought we worked really well together. We worked well with a couple other forwards were really good, priest did a really good job when he was running up there. He looked like he'd been doing it for 20 years. And I know he's been racing a long time, but he's a, he's a very skilled race car driver as well. And, and it's definitely harder to get runs. And you've got to be way more calculated than you ever been. It's just not, it's not as much of a free-for-all anymore.

or but shout out to rickie stinhouse third ever win third win again at a Daytona taladega style racetrack and are all his wins at plate track yes yes all three wins he does have a win of Daytona obviously not a 500 he's got to win a taladega now win here i don't think he's won since like 2017 or something crazy so when you don't win in that amount of time your career is not going to live much longer without something happening good for him so Daytona 500 will keep you alive for a few more years he's got a knack for he's great he's good play racer he's a very good plate racers. He's a good play racer.

He's got a good play spotter. Tabbs won a couple of Daytona 500s, at least one. At least, I mean, obviously he won last night. I think he won one with Joey, right? I think he won one with Joey. He wants some more plate races.

So it's like there's a handful of guys up there that tend to win these, these plate races. And, you know, Ricky, I probably settled in today. Like, I watched his interview live. Literally,

I was standing on the front stretch while he was being interviewed. He was very subdued. Maybe he was shocked. But, like, he wasn't, like, screaming and going crazy. crazy like it was just a very chill interview. And dude, you just won the Daytona 500. You know, I'd be crying and laughing.

You imagine if Pastrana won that thing somehow? Oh, my God. Man, he was right there with us. Same with Jimmy. I mean, they're up there. I hate to say this, but if Travis Pastrana had won that race, that would be an embarrassment to our sport. Oh, stop.

I'm not going to stop. I'm going to tell you again. If Travis Pastrana had won that race, it will be an embarrassment to our sport because it literally would say luck is greater than skill and some Daytona 500s. And some dates on the 500s it is. But that's what makes it exciting to you, is you never know.

That's what Kyle Bush said, who lucked into the win at the end of his interview? Because he was pissed. He was like, if this was 1998, the caution comes out with two to go, I don't want a Daytona 500. We go back green, I get wrecked. You just have to luck in. Who lucked into this Daytona 500 win? And they walked off.

So if he wins, is it a lock? No. Hell no. It would have been all skill. Listen, well, let's talk about that for a second because that was an interesting choice on the last restart. I think, listen, I don't think it was a bad, if you could execute it flawlessly, I think it's not a terrible move,

but I don't know why we just talked about it. You can't make a third lane. You can't do anything. So why would you not just line your two cars up leading each lane and go? Or line up together from the jump. Because when Lawston let him down, that bottom did not have momentum. I think you have a better, if you're worried about RCR winning the race, take both lanes because they can't drive around you.

I mean, if they might be able to get a run and back up and go around the top, but you just got to be aggressive blocking it. But if you just block both lanes, I don't think you can get beat that way. You know, we talked about that in one of our Toyota meetings. Like, you know, if you've got seven Toyotas or six Toyotas lined up in the first six spots, you're way better off going three and three than you ever will be lining all seven of us up, you know? Totally. I mean, you take me seven people that are dedicated to each other and I'll keep them in a line.

and I would take the high side. So you're, okay, so here's my, here's, let's put this scenario out. I got seven Toyotas in the line and we're one through seven. But I hope I'm not. And then the next three in line are forwards. So you'd rather give the Ford that's running eighth, the front row with seven in a row. Oh, no, no, no. I'm saying if the, if the pack's catching you, like, like, any spinning race there.

So you're, are you referencing when Kyle and Austin's done on the front? They chose, they chose Cyper Blanes. They chose Cyberlain, which was right, but then they did the team. I'm definitely if you got six or, you know, if you got numbers, I'm, even four. If you have four of you together, I'm taking the front two rows. They knew when they chose separate lanes, they were going to do the tandem style restart like we used to do where the guy on top gets let down by the guy on the bottom. The problem was the top had all the momentum when Kyle pulled down. It was lights out. The bottom lane wasn't going well. So if they were going to do

that in my mind, they should have just both started on the bottom. That way they could get hooked up. Kyle's controlling a restart. He's the lead car. If you're going to do the whole let's get bumper to bumper, you got to start bumper to bumper. If you're going to do block both rows, you got to race independently of block both rows. If you're going to do that team restart, you have to be down at the start finish line.

I don't, like, here's the thing. Break that top up a little bit. But I don't, I don't think it even if you know, it's becoming known now that if you're going to do the whatever teammate, the Ikey shuffle, whatever.

You don't come down right away. It takes a minute to get linked up. if the guy in fourth and sixth are no this is happening they are going to get linked up and push as hard as they can push because the guy in second on the bottom has to wait for you to get the guy to come down before he can go yeah by that time the outside's already hooked up and they have your right side doors the entire time that's all the reason i'm telling you that was a dumb idea yeah yeah it's a great idea to hold hold the front row if you're going to race it's a great idea to get nose to tell on the bottom or top if you're going to race but if you're going to

try to do that kind of restart that late, the Daytona 500, when you literally only have to run one lap, you get back to the white, the race is over. So you all know we're only racing for a lap. We're going to wreck. It's just, it's really hard. I mean, it's hard. You want to be with, at the end of the race. So comment, if that race finishes under green, two teammates together, probably could have paid, maybe would have paid off if they got bumper to bumper. Like, if you pay, if you put, I think, if you execute that properly, it's okay, it works better. They were still split by a car off of two. You know, they were done.

Like once they, the top had the momentum and they still hadn't gotten hooked up by turn two. They were done a minute Kyle got in a throttle and a restart zone. They were already done. I don't think they were, I don't think they were done there, but they shouldn't. They were, when we come off a turn two and the Kyle had a car lane gap and then the next guy had a gap, that's when we were, that's when the inside road was done. We had a restart late too where Denny Hamlin wasn't able to get and stay on. I think it was a 16s bumper. And the bottom line was just completely dead, you know, like, and then it just turns into a, but I can tell you, man, when they came out of four coming to the white, and Larson had that huge run, and they got three wide for a second.

And then they started wrecking behind people and people started wrecking in front of people. Like, it was crazy that you had to go back to another, essentially of another photo finish, not at the start finish line to determine who won the race. And back to back days. That's disappointing. Like, to me, like, that we, how do you end that race under yellow like that? You know what I mean? That goes for the Xfinity. What's your other option?

I know. I don't want to run 13 green white checkers. But I mean, Daytona 950. That's your other option. I just hate that people that, I hate that the wreck in 10th place ruined the race for the win.

You know what I mean? Like the wreck that happened right there, it didn't even have to happen. It was just a guy that was, I don't even know what it. You don't shove in the middle of the corner like that, first of all. That's where you let him go.

Anyway, you don't shove anybody like that, especially a guy that's in his first Daytona. They're referencing Amarola shoving Pastrana. Yes. Pastrano's probably a fifth car in line. Amarola hits him in the middle corner, turns them down, and here we go, we're wrecking again. But yeah, it is, I don't know, man.

Crazy ending. Still a cool event, still a fun weekend. I just hope Ricky is more excited today than he was yesterday. I'm sure he's probably... Do you see any interview, Casey? This morning, I was just listening to an interview on Sirius with Ricky, and he just seemed exhausted because I guess they were up till four in the morning celebrating. So I would hope he was hungover.

I think he got his celebrating in after that. Let's talk about TV coverage since did anybody watching on TV? Andrew, I'm assuming. I did. You didn't. You weren't there? I thought you were there. I had car trouble.

Thanks to you of car in a place. I'm not going to name names. And they totally screwed me. So, yep. That's interesting. But I saw. What's that got to do with you watch? I did watch the race just on TV.

When I got on the plane last night, I saw a lot of commercial complaints. And listen, they got to pay bills, but I don't know. It seemed like these complaints were over the top or I don't know if this is just people jumping on the bandwagon. But I also heard there were comments, and I don't know, Andrew, if you agree, comments around the commercials being too loud. Did you hear that? Too loud? Did you see that? I didn't hear anything.

I didn't see loud. A few people tagged me in that. But, I mean, listen, same with the Super Bowl. right? Like, we saw a ton of commercials for the Super Bowl. I think... Yeah, but they don't really, they don't ever really cut away from third down at the Super Bowl. I agree. And I will note that there were a few...

But in a race, when do you cut away though? Yeah, that's the issue. If you're under green, I saw... Here's the thing I saw a lot of was a lot of people complaining that they went to side-by-side commercials during yellows and full-screen commercials during green. Right. Like, I don't know, I don't know if that's... I'm not familiar with the TV production.

Like, if you have... Doesn't that backwards? Yes, that is backwards. I mean, I'm not a TV. I'm not a TV person. I don't know. I don't think you have to be one. I don't know. Side by side is like,

at this moment we have to be side by side or, you know, but that seems like it would be backwards to me. One thing I promise you you will not be at this year's Daytona 500 was the flyover. And then the fly over after that and the fly over after that and then the fly over. Listen to me. If you were on the roof the one time, you would have your pants. So there was two things. That guy was close.

That guy was 20 feet over our head. And did you see the guy that came in front of the racetrack sideways? Sideways. That was nuts. What was like, that's crazy. Did you see the like the stuff coming off the point? What is that? The sound barrier?

I don't know. Listen, when I was weird. Kevin Hamlin has a video of it on his, I think, Instagram story maybe. When they came from the backstretch and split and that one plane went straight over the top of us, I'm telling you, I felt like I could reach up and touch the bottom. So here. And about, and it like, about, if I didn't have my headset on, it would have been really paid.

We were on pit road and it was literally moving pit road. Like an earthquake was in. I felt that one in my chest. Eddie was, he was next to me. He wasn't paying attention. Finally, right when it went over, he, he, he shook him. He's like. Yeah.

So they did a practice the day before. Yeah. I saw that that morning. Yeah. Okay. So. I woke up to it. Yeah.

Well, I got, I got the, uh, good old come on in here and get, take this little test. So. Oh. Congratulations. So I'm in there. Guess when the first... Did you piss excellence? Like a whole cup of it, man.

All right. I love it. So the best part about this is I, the, I'm in there, you know, and the first flyover happens. And I'm... So you made a mess. I almost made a mess. It was really close. Man, that thing shook the building.

Oh, wow. I didn't know. And there was no warning. They just, the first time over was like, like, yeah. Here you are trying to perform. Here I am trying to, you know. In the middle of your performance. trying to piss excellence here and I can't even do it.

I don't want to spill any. I feel like that's almost a consequence if you say something dumb on the show the week before. So that must be a good start. Well, I pass like three other spotters on the way. So I mean, the best, listen, I can't really beat on them too bad here. So the 17 is not running the last practice.

And guess who else got a good over? He was so mad. He had to get up coming. It's random, but they got both routes. spotters. Yeah, basically. Weird.

So, well, it was for Xfinity. It was a show two years ago. It was Xfinity. It was a infinity test. Oh.

But so I'm, Herm texts me and he, it was, we had to be there between 8 and 10. Yeah. And Herm, we,

he was not, early rising. He was not, he was not happy. So, yeah, Herm was a little grumpy. Well,

besides the on-track action, I know, I mean, Daytona 500 was sold out. Truck saw the best Daytona attendance since 2011 and even Exfindi had incredible attendance. What did you guys think

of really the atmosphere performances, just general vibe from the weekend? I thought the truck race if they had the most people that are start they probably had the leads to finish because that was a nightmare. It's not there. Rain also

didn't. Yeah no. And it rained. Listen, like they were it's hard to fault them for it because of what happened there last year but they were not messing around with rain this year. If somebody said spring, there was a yellow coming out. Like anybody called in sprinkle or any

missed, they were putting a yellow out, which I'm fine. It's safer. It's much safer there because you know if it's misting at one point of that place, it could be pouring in the next turn. We get mad. We get mad at it when they do, but honestly, it is probably the right call points. Like, I think me and you talking about this. We got back, so in the beginning

of the race, it was like, it started missing, we put it out. The end of the race, it's under red. We go back up there. it's missing harder than it had been and they're like okay roll them off pit road under red and I'm like what are you doing? Like it's it's this was a caution in the beginning of race.

I think they were probably a little too cautious with it in the beginning and then by the end it was like there should be no difference but I mean I'd rather be safe than sorry because you don't want to go in there wreck all them cars. It's so fun to watch truck race on TV that's all I'm going to say to you guys it's a lot more fun to watch it than it is to spot it.

Oh it's chaos. I love watching them on TV. I want you to do an arc of race. I did one. about 10 years ago. I want you to do another Daytona race. I got roped into one year

of arc of spotting by Eddie Tim George or no, Tim George was a driver. Eddie Sharp. Eddie Sharp. Yeah, Eddie Sharp, who's a guy who I thought a lot of

and he called me. He said, hey, man, I really need your help. And I'm all about helping friends. I got roped into this with another driver too. And he was like, yeah, I need your help.

I need you to spot a few arc races. I'm like, okay, man, I'll help you. It wasn't a few. It was like seven or 11. I'm like, Eddie, no. A few is three. That was the longest race ever.

Which one? The ARCA? Yeah, that was... I feel like the truck race was longer. Well, only because of rain. I can't watch ARCA. I'm just going to say it out of that. I can't watch ARCA. I love truck racing.

He's Finney Racing Cup racing. I can't watch an ARCA race. Did you see there's two things. They just TrueX put out a tweet. Like, if you're a numerical person or whatever, it's the 19, 19th. His 19th Daytona 500 is running on the 19th. I think he ended up getting in a. wreck with 19 to go.

Oh. I don't know. I mean, I'm finished 19th. I don't know. And they're also, for Arker qualifying, the,

what's his name? The, the TV show guy. I don't know. Adam. Frankie Minas? Franki Minas. So he qualified

and was one position away from being in the very middle. So he was almost. Malcolm in the middle. Yeah, for qualifying. Who spotted for him? Was he ever three wide?

Frank, you're in the middle. One thing I took, I did watch. I did watch some of that Arker race. And one thing I think that needs to be addressed in that series and really all series. A lot of things. If we're, if we're being honest, that 69 car, which I think the guy's name is Scott Melton. What a great number. He, uh, he wrecked.

He got wrecked. He got run over from behind, got turned in the fence. And his car caught on fire. And he, 69 on fire. He could not get out of the car with his helmet on. You saw him try multiple times. Oh, I did. I saw that.

He could not get out. He's like 61 years old. He's older guy, yeah. Yeah, I saw that fire. That was scary. He could not get out. So you saw him try to get out twice. You could see him hitting his head on the roll bar.

Yeah, I saw that. And then he had to go back in. And the car that's full of smoke. The fire had kind of been out by then. But the car is full of smoke. Now he's got to take his helmet off and then try to get out. Like there should be some, you should be able to display that you can get out of your car. Whether it's, you know, come to your, you know, we do safety checks all the time about, you know,

checking the guy's equipment. Yeah. But if you can't get out of your car, if that thing's on fire, he's in a lot of trouble. Well, we were in, I was in the meeting with Way Not in talking to the exfini guys. And he said, make sure you practice getting out of your car with on the glass side too. Because, I mean. Yeah, but you can't leave it up to them. NASCAR should make these guys do it in front of them.

Like this guy literally couldn't get out of the car. Like, I'm sure they tell them guys make sure you can, but this guy could not. And you can see him struggling trying to get out. Like he goes one time, goes back in. Goes the next time I noticed he hit his head on the roll bar. He does back in. And then he starts taking his helmet off because he can't get out with all of his stuff on.

So listen, if you can't bail out of that thing in a hurry, you don't need to be in there. That's why in the new cars, the doors and stuff are bigger on the cup of stuff. Also, if you're 61, I don't know if you need to be in there. I mean, I don't have a problem with anybody. Yeah, but you better be able to get out. I mean, heck, Arka race,

one of the spotters got told to shut the F up by the driver. That was interesting. Nice. Oh, who was it? I don't want to say. Oh, you can't just tell us and not tell us the name. I've been giving him a hard time. I'm going to tell you.

If an archa driver tells you to shut up. You guys been around a long time though, so he's not, you're going to probably. Is it a Cubspotter? No, no, part time. Oh. Our friends at racingUSA.com are added again. You can get free shipping when you pre-order your 124th scale. Ricky Stenhouse Jr. Daytona 500 racewind diecast at racingusa.com today through Thursday

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Visit betterhelp.com slash bumper to get 10% off your first month. All right. Well, I think we'd BS enough. Let's hit in the spot on, spot off. Spot on. Spot off. It was super fun yesterday to ride around there. I am spot off.

Damn. Where did he come from? Freddie, since you are on top of your game today, spot on, spot off. I'm out of notes, by the way. it, I'm done. Thankfully, we are at the final topic because I don't... Golden Gooseys. I know that we can handle it much more.

I thought it was a good race. I don't think a lot of people agreed with you. I told you we should see a spot-off, spot-off. I absolutely told you we should skip it. Straight to DBC picks. We should just go check. Let's start one idiot right now. Yeah, let's just...

I mean, what an idiot could probably be a 30-minute segment right now. First topic. NASCAR holds only two cup practices before the Daytona 500. Brett, spot on, spot off. Spot on for holding two practices before the Daytona 500. It would have been nice to have practice before the qualifying session on Wednesday night or the duels on Thursday. And I'll go ahead and give away my wood, an idiot in this section.

Why would you put Chandler Smith and Travis Pastrana on a racetrack for your biggest race of the year with guys that have no experience in this car, no experience. in the Cup series, why would you put them in a position to not get an opportunity to practice prior to racing in the duels? Why would you not give them an opportunity to practice prior to going out for qualifying? Why, if you were a competitor, like a Kevin Harvick, would you even want them guys anywhere around you when they haven't had any practice? So I don't know how that works with television, NASCAR, where the buck stops for that decision, but this is my, what an idiot for the week of whoever said yes to this because it almost is unsafe for the drivers to do this this way

those guys their teams i mean you look at it at colleague that's a brand new team looking at 2311 brand new team right you we have too much invested here and there's so few of spots to be gained you're looking at four spots that they can make this race uh for the investment that it takes from the team sponsors obviously a big brand i mean Travis mistrana is a global brand like give that guy an opportunity give Chandler Smith an opportunity to go out there, buckle into their cars, make some laps, get comfortable, make sure nothing crazy is going on with their car

and let them gain some experience. So I was very, very frustrated. Clearly my car didn't make the dates on a 500. You're going to think that makes me more biased. It actually doesn't. I'm telling you, this is a major, major, major miss for me. Spot off. Yeah, I don't, listen, I think, you know,

I don't know what the answer is because I could see them thinking, you know, all these are the premier team. teams and and you know the reason why chanler didn't miss the race wasn't anything to do with chandler there was a mechanical issue same with connor daly he got by the time he got out there he's riding around on a pogo stick it looked like like that thing's bouncing all over the place um so i don't know you know you really driver-wise like Travis was having to practice launches in a parking lot last week you know before we got down there like because he like so much like

if you listen to anybody during the broadcast, a gigantic part of qualifying on speed is the launch off a pit road. Like just getting through the gear, getting off pit road, minimizing your wheel spin, don't lug the motor, and then getting through the gears. And Travis is doing this for the first time in a parking lot,

you know? And I don't understand, I mean, if you have maybe a rookie practice or just, I mean, all you need is a damn. 30 minutes. Not even.

I don't even think you need, I mean, 10, 50 minutes. Let everybody get one. run off pit road. I mean, I don't really understand it. I know that, you know, you expect the premier drivers

and the premier teams to be prepared and go out there and make a lap, but these aren't premier drivers. These are rookies that have never done this before. These aren't premier drivers and they're not premier teams either

because they're brand new teams. Even though they're within a successful organization, clearly they're not premier teams. Well, you would hope that if, I'm not saying they are, but you would hope that you're 40, or your 36 charters and your 40 cars that show up, these are supposed to be the premier teams in the land of what we're doing.

And if they're not prepared to be there, then maybe they shouldn't be. You know, that 50 car, when it left pit road the other night, it was bouncing around the racetrack like that, like that team looked like they didn't belong anywhere near that racetrack. I am spot on for the two practices. I just think they're at the wrong times.

I think, uh, agree. And I'm even fine with qualifying because, not having one before qualifying because that's just for, it's just sessalonant for the duels. I mean, honestly, Pichano's not out there

a threat for the pole. I mean, yeah, but it made a big difference. But I don't think you have two or three guys that, but those lock-ins, I mean, they had a chance to race.

Yeah, but I'm saying like Travis, Travis didn't have to worry about anything on Thursday because he was locked in. Jimmy Johnson didn't have anything to worry about them. But it also, it also, that affects the guys to you do, Ryan.

It shouldn't be easy to go there and do this. And if you're going to go and if you're going on, I mean, he's been in NASCAR stuff before. He's got an idea. And if you're going to go right to the couple, well, you need to be ready. We shouldn't cater to guys that are, okay, well, you're a, you're a motocross guy going to run the five hundred now. We should give you some practice. No, you should work ready to that point.

If you're going to come in with there with the big dogs. So you think a rookie should buckle in and go out there and race at Daytona with no practice. What if you were the wrecked your car? I didn't say, well, that's why I'm saying, no, I said we should, I don't, I don't think we need a practice before qualifying. I think we need a practice for the, for the duels. I think we could have had a practice Thursday morning before the duels. could have had a practice on Wednesday for one hour, let teams go out there and do that thing.

I don't care if you're doing groups. I don't care if you're doing rookies or whatever. Practice for one hour. Let these guys go over these cars because I promise you, Chandler Smith would have had an opportunity to make the race on speed if we'd have had that practice. Nobody's going to draft it knows. Doesn't matter.

Secondly, you go out there and you run qualifying, then you impound the cars. Now you've had the practice, now you've had to qualify, and then you put them in a duel. And I don't care if you practice for this weekend before the 500, but putting rookies out there with no experience in that situation. and this isn't this isn't Charlotte where you're out there

riding around on your own fate this is Daytona Tallagia a rookie with no experience is running the Daytona 500 how do you want to get experience if they don't practice so Chandler Smith's got experience just not in a cup car there

he's got experience at Dayton he's got quite a bit experience of Daytona in another series he knows what he's doing so this isn't like this guy just came off his couch and was like I'm going to go run Daytona

and it shouldn't be that easy that you shouldn't go to Daytona for the first time I mean, this is a huge raise. I mean, you don't just, you don't, you're not a, you don't come off of a practice squad and go play in a Super Bowl for your first game. That's the point of it. That's why they need practice.

But I'm saying you, you, we have other series for getting to that level. I don't think you get it. I mean, but you're, but at the same time, T.J, at the same time, if a Travis Vistrana, who maybe has only had a few starts, goes out without practice and wrecks your car, who should be in contention. Oh, he'd be living. He'd be so pissed off. Yeah, he'd be mad. wrecked my car. Why'd you let this guy in this race

without any experience and practice? I mean, he would lose his shit. I wish that would happen. If we get to the cup level and you don't know what you're doing, you probably shouldn't be out there. Listen, I think that they know what they're doing, but it's at the same time

to have this guy come in here. This is like, talk about Travis. We'll just key on him. He's a good example. Like, this guy's practicing in the parking lot. Like, I mean, it worked. getting ready for the Daytona 500 in a parking lot. It worked because he was able to, and, and, I don't know.

Like, I see it both ways. You know, if you, like, I agree. If you're in the, if you're in the Daytona 500, you should be one of the best 36, 40, whatever it is, drivers in the world, in our, in our former racing. So, listen, I, the teams should have been prepared. The drivers, I don't know how they were going to gotten prepared, except for going in parking lots and practicing. But, same time.

Like, there's, there's, it. I feel like you could have made it all a mute point with one 20-minute practice on Wednesday afternoon. Also, I don't, one thing that- I bet you we practice next year. Probably. I think, but you got a problem. Dale Jr. even tweeted. What do you tweet? I don't know.

One hour practice on Wednesday? Yeah, he did. Is it too much practice? That could be the only practice of the week. It could be. Just rate that one practice. Well, you look at the last practice. Only half the cars ran.

So what are we doing that? You know what I mean? Like, only half the cars ran. Is that wouldn't even. But that was after the tools. The practice on whatever, what day we practiced. practice. Saturday.

Friday. Friday? Friday. I just did pit road runs. I never, I did pit road runs. What was you doing on Saturday? Nothing.

See? I mean, yeah. Like when you get through the duel with your car, you're like, you're not going to do anything because you don't, that's, you know how good your car is.

So, yeah. I mean, we had one backup car there for all of us. We ran all the practices, but I mean, I noticed a lot of them didn't run the last practice. So.

TJ, spot on, spot off. All four junior mother sports drivers found themselves in contention. in the closing laps of the Expending Series race with only one of them finishing in the top 10.

And that was Justin Allgaier who finished third. What'd you think? Y'all f***ed that up. I mean, bad. Real bad. I don't know who's in charge of that. That's why I asked you. What should I say?

I don't know. I'm trying to figure out if that's a JR on his head or a J.A. because he's such a big O'Geyer fan. So, well, I was going to ask you if you want me. Should I say, thanks, Justin? Thanks, Justin. Yeah, I'm spot off.

There's zero reason why J.R.M. Cars shouldn't have won that race and been for the top six or seven cars no matter what with a win. So there's when you have, that is a dream scenario to have at the end of the race. Even if you're second, third, fourth, and fifth with, I mean, everybody's in line. Nobody can make a move and you have four strong cars right there. The 21's a sitting duck. The 21 was a sitting duck for 20 laps and won the race. Yeah.

So there was a plan to run. There was a plan. Some people weren't on it. Well, he was a plan. Why is I was broke on the seven box. Look, I mean, you have all, we were told that we're going with you on the last lap when you make your move that way and we're going to bring as many as we. If somebody were to make a move like a, like behind us, two or three can get down and block it.

we can we can adjust accordingly but nobody was moving yet we we started racing each other before anyone else started racing and that's how you lose a race and we had a plan that when we made our move the seven was going to go with us and push us by and we would pull him and then we would race for the win and we're all four basically racing for a win um and that was you know we're not going to move at that point why would you move to the last lap right you're basically in control now if other teams move we adjust to that if the 19 and 20 start making a move yeah we get three of us down maybe four of us if they have to adjust to them no problem um but coming through the dog leg there I'm in line with you inside the seven like oh okay so we're racing with two to go now and from that

point on the gloves are off for everybody you just went from having four cars teammates lined up to basically everybody's for themselves right now the team the whole team thing is out of the pitcher. In my opinion, that's how it goes. I mean, Josh's, we're running second. We specifically ran multiple three or four pit road entries in practice to learn our point where we could go the deepest to and get a good pit road if we had to put under green because that's where some of these things are won. That's how you get your track position, right? So Ligano one is dual. You learn how where you can go and Justin hit pit road and we knew our mark was way past him. So Josh just goes around the outside of them. Nope. Clears him before the line.

Is there an issue of that, you think? No. Because we worked on it. And we all get, we get control of that deal. And, you know, I thought we were in a good position to finish first through third. I thought we had a good shot at a win, but I knew we were probably going to finish top three and have a good run. But that just got thrown out the window and then we get a run down to back. And at that point, you're racing.

If you're coming back to the white flag and you got a huge run down to back and your fourth, are you taking it? I'm taking it. I'm taking it. And Josh Mood, and I don't know why Brandon moved, Brandon moved a little bit to block it. and we hooked him down to the inside, and then there goes one car, and then we flip another one over. We run out of gas because we were only good for the...

So what's his debrief look like? Good question. I don't know. I'm not going. You can see, like, obviously, everybody wants to win the race of the day towards, you know? So Josh is doing what he needs to do because the 20, like we've said the 21's a sitting duck

for the entire time he's leading there. That whole single file line, the 21's out front, and he's, he's essentially We made him look like a genius Yeah so then I mean he's a great plate race We had lost the draft

We got tangled up with getting side drafted By a slower car at the back And we end up losing the draft And I told Chandler I'm like I'm on channel two Like we're probably We're probably screwed here Like nobody's gonna go anywhere

To the last lap because why would they And then as soon as the seven pulled down On two to go I'm like We got a shot Because they're gonna get race shots And we just need to wreck before they get to three And then you know they end up But like

All they had to do at any point was... I know. I know you do. But like, if he just accidentally, the eight gets out of line accidentally, four cars are going by the 21 at least. And then he's scrambling to find the next car, whether it's the fifth guy, six guy in line,

whoever it is to push him back up to them. But by then, you guys are all probably clear. So it's just... Did you see Austin move? So right before like two or three last four, he started doing this, I was like, Josh, don't get baited at anything here. He started moving down.

This guy's going to. and try to bait you into something to get you guys racing. Don't move. Just stay in that top plane. He kept swerving all around. Josh followed him a little bit, but then he just let him do it. But Austin's really smart because he was trying to get, it almost worked. I mean, it did work. He won the race. Well, those moves didn't work. I mean, he just, I guarantee you when he saw us racing and in a mirror, he was like,

you know, it's just like, if that happened with colleague racing and me and and Brett was spot and we'd be getting our asses chewed out because like every time that's all, like make sure we win. That's all their bad. Like it don't matter. I don't care which one he has win, but make sure we win. You know, and that that deal there,

they made sure that they didn't win. Essentially, there was no weed. There was no weed in any of that stuff. You guys made sure, not you, but the guys behind you made sure that nobody won. And now instead of a trophy.

It caught me off guard because I'm, we're planning for the last lap here. And then also, that's the problem. That's the problem having a plan is the other guys know you're playing too. So they can try to screw you. Like, and apparently you hope your teammates don't do that.

But that's fine. I was okay. I mean, if you're the last guy in line, you know you're kind of a sitting duck. But if you have teammates in front of your... Well, that's the thing you get with a buffer. Like, if you're running the top and you've got four cars in line, the last guy's kind of a sacrificial lamb. But if somebody goes, they might be able to jump him.

Say that again. But sacrificial lane. Yeah. Yeah. You don't know what that is. That's just funny here. So, you know, that one guy is probably screwed, but the next three can move down and block whatever run comes.

And the 21 might be able to block me with you. That's why you have numbers. But that's why you have numbers. It's just, it was they, they bungled. that about as bad as you could do it. As a spotter, I hate getting caught off guard. Like, because it takes me a few seconds after that. What the hell is having?

First thing I think is what the fuck is he doing? The second thing I think is, what do we need to do now? I checked that box. Yeah, it took, I always took me just a little bit of time to get my brain back together around. Okay, the whole scenario I was painting. Now we threw the picture out the window. I got to find another picture to paint.

It happened to me in the cup race yesterday. So we, you know, we got up front there. We're pushing the 14 along and just trying to get me or trying to get the 23. and the 19 clear at Denny so we can both get up in front of Denny so then that we get the shove we get a good shove

we both get clear we pass to the 14 we're going on a back stretch and Denny kind of runs the 19 through the back of us and like it's hard to tell depth on the back straightaway obviously because it's so flat

Danny drove him right through the back I'm saying what listen bad shit happens when the 1911 and 23 get near each other we punted Danny at L.A Denny Rex us yesterday but like I didn't like it's hard to tell like you get turned into the wall like that

So it looks to me like we're going down the backstretch and Martin just yanks out. And I'm like, what's going on here? And then Bubba's slow. And I'm like, okay, now I got to get, we're going to pit road. But same thing. Like if you have something happens here, like, because like biggest thing that I think you is the anticipation of plate races of what's going to happen. So you're looking kind of a couple laps ahead and this, where these runs are coming from. And then all of a sudden that just all gets crumbled up and thrown out the window.

And you're like, wait a minute, what the hell's going on here? Sounds like you're, sounds like you're turning on Denny a little bit here. I see what you thought about Daniel or anything. You didn't follow back with it. I didn't hear the word great. I know. It was payback for a call to see him, I guess.

I don't know. Of course he's great. I still got to get paid. Oh. Freddie. When asked if he blamed Brad Kislauski for his late race overtime moves, Austin Dillon said that the sixth car

just drove through the 24. It's what he does. His car is good enough where he can drive through whoever he needs to and push them out of the way or wreck them. That's the desperation they're in right now. Spot on, spot off. Damn, TJ, he called you desperate.

Oh, no. Oh, don't worry. Today, we have some topics for you. Speaking of us driving you at the Coliseum, this guy really complaining about somebody driving to the back of him yesterday? I don't get it. I've never seen Austin drive-through anymore. Nobody.

I mean, it's been at least, what, two weeks now. Two weeks. Yeah, there's two weeks. From the class to hear. Listen, I watch to replay this and I don't know, I don't know if Austin did where he got his info. He got fed some bad info because the six never touched him. The six never touched 24. There was a gap there the whole time until maybe Austin started wrecking and the 24 got checked up. Maybe the six may have gotten a 24 then, but Austin was already well on his way of wrecking. So to get out and speak to something that you don't really know what you're talking about is probably not a good idea. Like let go look at a replay before you condemn Brad. He was told. He was told by another driver on the ride into the infield. He was hit. Brad. I mean. I'm going to guess that driver was Byron.

I'm going to guess you're probably right. Yeah. Let's go. I want three, you motherfachsh mad at each other. That'd be awesome. Brad, Brad and the 17 were doing the best job of anybody. I thought they were the two best cars probably all day.

All day. And they were doing the best job of pushing with each other. Commit. Or pushing other guys, other Ford's. I think it was Priest and Brad in one of the stages. Yeah. I'm telling you, Priest was doing a hell of a job.

But, you know, they were doing a great job. And listen, Brad gets a bad rap, obviously, because he wrecked about half the field last year. So, you know, this was an easy guy to blame here. That's still top of mind for you. And I don't really, you know, I don't know. Like obviously he got bad info and shouldn't have said what he said, but I don't know where he came from, desperation.

Like Brad was. TJ, is there any desperation on Bradside right now? There was no, did you see desperation driving yesterday? I saw desperation in L.A. when the guy launched to the corner and threw the back of my car. That's what I, not you. Oh, I saw desperation too. that was actually the 99.

And he was actually desperate in the duel as well. But yeah, there's no desperation. We drove, I don't think Brad and Chris could have drove a smarter race with each other. We were in position up in the front, control in the race until, you know, you never know how these things are going to shake out there. Did that catch you off guard? Them guys going as early as you did. I mean, I thought they would wait until later, but I was ready for it. But I was just ready to pull Chris.

You know what I mean? Like, you have to have a team. We knew if it came down on the last lap, you need a pusher. and if you're going to win this 500, and if it goes to the checker flag, you're going to need help. And we knew our best chances were with a teammate, so I thought Chris and Brad drove exactly what they needed to do the whole race.

And we were able to control near the end and things didn't work out, but I don't think they did anything wrong. It's just circumstances. I'm spot on. This is great. Because you're not involved? I don't have a dog on the fight. I got 83 hats in the truck for you guys.

I give you both one. He just, He said he was sorry. He didn't have the right info. I just really laughed at him. Who said he was sorry? Austin did. To who?

He told me. So. I mean, props to him. I take that takes a lot. He said it wasn't. He said he just had bad. He told us he was sorry too, I think. He did.

I'm really sorry about that. He said it to you on TV. He MF TJ on TV and then privately said he was sorry. He said your team's desperate. That's you. Oh, yeah. You're on a team. You guys can watch Austin's initial reaction on Bob's Twitter.

So be sure the tune in there. But at least we know he apologized. That's why they like them interviews right away, man. Oh, perfect. Oh, yeah. Content. Spot on, spot off. NASCAR is in active talks to bring a race to the New York City area per C-OO,

Steve O'Donnell. And they're also looking at possible cup races in Denver, Seattle, Mexico, Canada, and an international series in the Middle East. Brett's going to be the international series director. No. Yeah, that would be great. Good foreign relations. Spot on, sweat off.

Brett. what the hell we're going to do with Kyle Bush if we go back to Mexico? Oh, God. Is that going to be a problem? He's going to sit that one out. One raise waiver for the table. Can't be packing? Got to pack easy light when you go to Mexico.

Not heavy. Look, I'm spot on for new markets. I'm spot on for the markets he referenced here. I think there's a lot of opportunity, a lot of these places, but I still stand by what I said last week. two weeks ago, whenever it was about where I think our fan base lives. I mean, I had a conversation yesterday with a CEO of a company, and that's the man. The crazy thing is we can go to Brooklyn, Michigan in the middle of nowhere and kind of sell a

place out, sell a lot of tickets. We can go to downtown Indianapolis and we can't sell by 20,000 seats. Like, it's kind of weird how our fan base, you know, does different things to different markets, different tracks. But at the end of the day, man, I think going new places is good. I can't tell you, I think this cap of 38 races, 37 races, whatever we're running, I think if we're looking at all these things, that number goes up. Yeah, listen, I'm fine, especially New York.

That's my home. That's where I kind of grew up. It's not about an hour from New York City. So I'm okay with that. I'm okay with any of these places as long as it's an oval of some sort. I don't want to add five road courses or street courses to the schedule. I'm fine with maybe a rotating street course. If we go to Chicago for three years and then we go to,

pick one of these other cities, New York, for a couple of years and move around if that's the plan. But I don't think you want to add five more street courses unless this one is some kind of great, you know, success, which I don't know that that's going to happen. But, yeah, I don't like Seattle was one that I, like Seattle, I feel like the fan bases in Seattle are rabid. Like every sport they got out there, the fan bases go wild. So I'd love to go out there for a race and see what happens. Mexico, I don't know.

I wasn't around back in those days. It wasn't a lot of fun for the teams. Like you had a, you were kind of on lockdown the whole time. Like coffee maker. Yeah. With your border you brought from home. Yes. Yeah.

So depending on where we're going, I don't know that I'd love a trip to Mexico. Yeah, but take us to Cancun. It'd be awesome. Thanks, Cabo. I like Cabo. Cabo's American eyes. Take us there. What about the bridge to the Atlantis?

Is there going to wait for? Race across that. Well, my dad used to race across that bridge, boat racing. so I'd highly not recommend that. Under it. If he was across it, that's been a bad day. Under it, over it, whatever. Oh, any additional thoughts? Where would you guys want to go in general?

Man. Myrtle Beach. God. Did that place gone yet? It's gone. It's sad. Tearing my beer. Of this list right here.

New York for me, just because I can go home. I would like to see how Chicago does, but I definitely think a street course in New York. So just a little info for the Chicago. Ticket start at $269. I knew they did that for you. No, that is totally. For the full weekend includes four concerts,

which is the chain smokers, the Black Crows, Charlie Crockett, and Miranda Lambert, and both races. So I don't think that. So 250 gets you all that. 250. I think that's about that. So they're trying to get people to come to a concert and accidentally watch a race.

Or come to a race in a concert. breaks out. But I mean, for a weekend. That's cool. A weekend, I think that's very manageable. That's more than just a race. I think there's a lot of times that I'm glad they're putting a lot of things together. I'm sure it'll be, you know, $269 for the weekend and then you got to pay probably $15 to $20 a beer and $7 for a water.

Parking should be cheap. So basically Jason can get drunk really easily and you're going to get. I'm going to go broke. I mean, look, when there's been a lot of sporting venues I've been to and, and teams that aren't good teams, if they can still sell tickets, they make it the place to be. It's the place to be at that particular time,

and it just so happens, there's a sporting event going on. I mean, there was a time when, you know, some of these Charlotte teams are terrible, and fans don't support that if you don't make it the place to be. You look at it right now,

the perfect example of that is that, that fucking baseball team. What's it, oh God, what is the name of that team? Savannah bananas. Yes. Like they're,

I don't even, like the Glob Trodters. The Globe Trenors. The Globe Trenors. The Globe Trots. Crotters of the baseball world. Like you can't, they're coming to Canapolis in a couple of months and you can't get a ticket. Like it's like make it something that everybody wants to go see.

Savannah bananas. Savannah bananas. Look them up. They're huge on like. They do funny things. Are you kidding me? Andrew has a hat. See, there they are.

That's how popular they are. That's how popular to that young demographic. I mean, Bodie's freaking 10 years old. I think I think Chicago thing, look, here's the thing. I don't know a lot of people that I don't know a lot of people that I I've talked to that don't live in Chicago that are willing to go into Chicago on July 4th for this race, right? Make that is what it is.

So if you're going to have a fortunate and a good of a successful event, you're going to have to get people in Chicago to come out to it. Well, how do you get them to come out to it? Hopefully it's just to see the chain smokers and watch a race. We bring other names in, right? And they're trying new things. If they weren't trying new things doing the same old, same old, then we'd be complaining about that. My only issue with that is we're trying new things.

You're making it seem like, okay, we're going to trial run. But we signed a three-year deal with this deal, didn't we? Like, I remember, like, I remember they announced. I thought it was a three-year deal when they first announced it. So, like, what if it sucks? Like, what if it's a problem this year? Well, we're going to try it again next year. Like, you know, it's...

New York. Yeah, like, but if you're locked in there, what do you do? Yeah. I don't know. I mean, it's good to see them stacking the weekend, no. We've always said there should be... I mean, we say that every week. And, you know, we say, you know, not that D.

Deerx Bentley is not a great performer, but like that's the biggest name you can get for the Super Bowl. You know, I don't know. They got bigger names coming to this Chicago race. Yeah. Four bigger names, actually. Yeah, minimum three years for Chicago. So I hope it's good because we're going back twice more.

Moving on. Kyle Bush shares in Daytona pre-race that Joe Gibbs was going to pay him with his own money to stay with the team in 2023. and per Tom Rinaldi's interview, Bush said he couldn't accept Joe's personal money, which is why it didn't work out. Spot on, spot off, TJ. There's got to be more to this.

I don't care where you get it from. I mean, right? Must be the money. If you're getting paid, you're getting paid, right? If Tom Brady signs up. I mean, essentially it's all Joe's money, right? I mean, the team's, the sponsor's paying Joe. Joe's paying the driver.

Yeah, I mean, if Tom Brady signs a $50 million deal or, you know, a million dollar deal for, you know, whatever money years and he gets, you know, if he gets on an airplane or there's a briefcase in the back with, you know, 10 million, does he think he's going to not turn it down? I don't want, I'm not, it's a briefcase, my, I don't want this. Yeah, PR 101 here, man, just take the high road. Like, why are we still talking about this? It's a new chapter, a new team.

You're going out to run the Daytona 500. Why are you in Gibbs still going back and forth? Why is Toyota still involved? Why are we still loft? Take the high road. Let that chapter close. That's lucky money. Start the next chapter.

I mean, we said on the show, he had an opportunity to stay at Joe Gibbs racing last year. And for whatever reason, that didn't work out. Well, once it didn't work out, things went south and they split. So, I mean, we could stand up here all day and keep beating a dead horse. But at the end of the day, Toyota, Joe Gibbs, Kyle Busch need to take the high road publicly and move on. Agreed. Listen, I don't know. Like, I don't get the quote because it's Joe's money. And Joe's not, I mean, they really got a, they really got a negotiation.

And Joe said, listen, I'm going to take this out of my personal account. Right. We'll go over here to Wells Fargo and, you know. What feels me, I'd be like, Kyle, I got $1,500 I can stay here. That enticing? I don't understand that. But the top of the $5 million we offered you. Here's $1,500 more.

Is that, not going to get you excited? Oh, boy. Let's move on to Reaction Theater. Yeah, this is Andrew. I am the Brett Griffin Fan Club president of the Indiana chapter. Finally, yes! Way to go, Josh! Way to go!

The data tells me that Bubba still sucks. Freddy, you can't see shit. I just want to say, I'm not drunk. My great grandma here I run him, and she's 90-000-A. Reaction Theater rolls in three. Two, one. 1236 on Saturday before the 500 watching the Xfinity cars qualifying and Anthony Alfredo sits on top the lead of board and a car that's faster than Alex Borman. This is a joke.

Listen, that, I don't know, was anybody watching Xfinity qualifying or you probably had the track peeing, but like. I was trying to anyway. I don't know I'm assuming it was just the way the wind worked out but you know how they had the ghost cars well alfredo goes and he was in a bj mcloud car and like he made up five car lengths on a back straightway like they're literally like coming down the back straight away and you can't see my hands obviously but they're coming out of back straight away and then he just drives by the guy in front of him and i'm like what the hell was that and i thought like the other night i'm like oh the things broke again well nope he was three tenths faster than the guy I was like

what just happened? The only thing that makes sense, unless he had a nitro button in there, was that he just got some lucky-ass gust of wind that propelled him by everybody. Which wind is a big factor. Oh, it's huge, yeah. And you saw a big headwind for a lot of the other guys,

so I think maybe it probably just died out for him. Yeah. But it was really funny to watch the, because it was like the next 10 cars in line until Parker went, like they'd be like even, even, even, even. And then he would just drive away from him or drive by him down the back straight away. I'm dropping the hammer.

And it's like, what the hell just happened right there? But yeah, I saw that where the, I guess the cup cars were the slowest in the qualifying this year. Fast pasta. Yep, fast pasta. This is ridiculous on Fox. There's a wreck happening while they're in commercial. They played their full commercial break while, you know, we're trying to figure out who's in the wreck, how bad the damage is, what cars are on pit road. And they just keep playing commercial after commercial after commercial, knowing full well that as soon as they come back from commercial, they're going to do two replays and then go right into a commercial because it's the yellow.

flag. Like, come on Fox. You got to do a better job about this. My whole timeline was full of people complaining about their viewing experience on Fox. I don't know. I feel like that one, that one I don't know about that because like you're just wait a second. Like followed Bob on Twitter. He'll tell you who's in the wreck or like if there's a wreck happening. What do you want to do? Cut to the car sitting in the grass. Like yeah. Just just come like run your commercial out. So hopefully you don't have one in the green later and probably causes more issues if you don't finish that commercial. Like when you come back. When you come back. go, oh, look, like you said, here's, yeah, we had a wreck, here's the replay, you know.

The one thing that I... This isn't new. This happened all the time back in the day. The one thing that I do wish, and it's a good thing, it's a good thing because we want to see more, is that there were more post-race coverage. I heard there was like nothing. Yeah, but it was also because the race went so long, but I do think, like, it's a good thing because we want to see more, we want to hear more.

Like, I mean, that's just NASCAR fans wanting to see it all. I do wish that there was more. I know it was 200 and something 30 laps, but it was. was only four hours. So what was the block? You know, what did you have time blocked out for that? Like,

so if we went to overtime, it was going to be, I mean, you should at least have a five or six hour block, I think, for the Daytona 500. Like, it's always going to be somewhere

between three and four hours. I think this, this little off topic, but the front stretch interview, I think ruins the team X, like this everything. Like, it's all,

you don't, you don't really, like, after the first celebration, everything after that, is kind of downplayed, right? I think so. I mean, maybe you see it, you washed it, but...

I'm not a fan. We said that. I want to see the driver. We had the driver get to Victory Lane. We have the L.J.N. I mean, I know what they're going for. They're going for that Kentucky Derby moment where the horse just crossed the finish line

and the other reporter and on a horse comes and catches up to them. We had that, yeah, we had that in Victory Lane, no. 100% we did. Like, let the guy, yeah, man, I'm with you. Just put him back in Victory Lane. I enjoy. watching the burnout or the celebration no matter what they did.

And then right to victory lane. You interviewed second and third. And then hold the guy in the car for a hot second till we're ready. Boom. Get him out. Like that's nostalgic for me. What's the most for me I have one? But like what's the most iconic victory celebration you can remember at Daytona?

Would it not be Dale Earnhardt driving down pit road? Shaking the hand of every crew member. Yeah. But he did the three in the infield first. Well, no, he did. He did that and then he pulled into the infield. But if, like, if they're doing an interview on the front straightaway there and that, like, them guys aren't going to be sitting there waiting on him to come down

pit road, the whole, you know, like, like, let it be natural. Like, let them celebrate, get down to pit road, get to victory lane, be with his team. Like, the energy from the team is way more than just the guy getting out. The driver's excitement's going to be more when he has a hundred people around him, wait for him to get out and celebrate right there. I mean, how is that not more than getting out by yourself? And, you know, you got some people that stay, some people that leave. But, I mean, if you're going to do,

that's why I think they should do Victorillion right on the front stretch with everything. Get everyone right to air. Yeah. Hard to do at a place like that, maybe, but I don't know. Man, Cory Lejoy really is just a class act. It's so nice of him to cut his mullet off

and donate that hair to Joey Lugano because Joey just looks so much younger now. Corey, you're a great guy. People are infatuated with Ligano's new hair. Hey, man, that's it. Listen, Lugano's a smart guy. like he's getting he's getting some new hair and he's getting paid to do it so congratulations to him i told i look i've been on us a while i told several guys in the sport that were drivers they needed

to go get hair because if they don't have a hat on it i mean they're less marketable and i mean i'm talking about guys that could wheel it like jason keller um and matt kinseth was smart enough to realize i probably need to get hair because if you don't have hair you need to be just completely bald because from a sponsorship perspective, you're not going to spend four, five hundred thousand dollars on a photo shoot and not being a good looking guy. And I know Joey's catching a lot of shit for this, but we've seen other drivers make other changes to their appearances. In Hollywood, they get praised for doing this kind of stuff.

I think the big thing with Joey is we've gone from like kind of really, really little to a lot. Yeah. Like there's no, there was no in between there. Yeah, we went from like some, a few snips. a floby. I mean, floby. Yeah, I mean, he definitely went all out.

I mean, listen, he has zero idea what that is. But if I was rich, if I was rich, I might go get me some higher. Hell yeah. I mean, it's working. You can tell me you are rich. When are you getting in? I actually know of a few people who are who've looked into hair clubs. So, hey, it's working for sponsorship. I'm not going to need

names. I think there's a couple guys. Everybody should be able to figure out. Chad? No. No. I'm just kidding. Pop Pop, you told him to block like heck. He said, make that number three car six lanes wide, even if it causes a wreck. But the plan went bad when Joey got to run, but Austin kept blocking for Bush. Then everybody started wrecking when Willie V gave Austin a push. We'll line him back up again.

It's NASCAR overtime. It ain't the Daytona 500. It's the Daytona 500. Well, this race takes skill This race takes luck But today it took a man named Ricky It took Brad Dardy over MJ It took being from Mississippi

And I think Ricky deserves it Cause of all the big wrecks he missed And everybody seems to be happy for him Said Danica Patrick's pissed That old Mississippi Ricky That's good Even Caleb do that you didn't touch the back of the three there Yeah. I think there was just damage control going on there, so he wasn't mad.

That's really, listen, it's, you know, he kind of glossed over a little bit, but it's awesome for Ricky. Awesome for Ted and Jody Keshector. Yeah, that team. Mike Kelly, Mike Kelly and Ricky have been together forever. Mike Kelly's kind of followed Ricky almost everywhere he went. They're super close. Mike's a really good guy. Great people, too.

He tried the spot for a week. Oh, that's right. I forgot. Hey, it's a good thing it didn't work out for him. Good thing that did. Look at him. Oh, I forgot about that. You went from a one week spotter.

And he's easy it looks on TV I'm gonna tell you all that right now People think it's easy It ain't that easy Yeah one week spotted a Daytona 500 Win the crew chief good for him man And like you said I mean it doesn't matter where you see Ricky at

If you see him at Millbridge Or you see him at Chili Bowl Or you see him wherever There's a lot of times Mike was with him So as we all know It's great to win with friends My buddy Travis Young's Car Chief over there too

So it's good to see him Get a win Hey win for the little guy Right I mean But here's the thing right. Riki's Ten Houses team. We call him the little guy. Where did they finish some points last year?

Like 30th? There's a few storylines going to come out of this. He just took a playoff spot. Well, yeah, for now. Most likely. Yeah, probably. Just put himself in the All-Star race. Awesome.

Put himself in the clash because, you know, that everybody's in the clash. But this is not, we talk about this team being, you know, I even called a little guy. They have the sponsorship. They're not sitting on, you know, B.J. McLeod's money or, you know,

front row motorsports money even. I mean, this team has a lot of sponsorship. And they need to perform, right? Because Kroger's been a part of their program forever. Because Schechter's like you said. Great, great business people, been around the sport for very, very long time. This win

will obviously put them on a big stage. But now, you've got to maintain this. You got to go to Fontana qualified top 15 and run top 15. If you go out there and you're 27th and lapped, you know, at the end of the race, would you really accomplish. You're going to have a Daytona 500 win at a trophy, but you've got to elevate now.

Ricky's got to stop crashing so much. We all know he gets in too many bad positions. And Ricky's a great race car driver. I believe. I met him when he came into the sport, worked with him some at Roush Racing back then. It wasn't Roush. Finway Kislauski racing at the time. When him and Trevor Bain got there, like it was like which one of these two are going to be better. And then Ricky got let go from Roush for wrecking too much. And he's got to now go elevate his game, elevate their game, because now you're talking about a playoff run, which is a big deal for this team. Yeah, and I was listening to Denny's podcast on the way in here.

And he said that's, it's essentially like a $3 million win for them because on top of whatever it paid to win the race, you just jumped 15 spots in the standings because the worst you're going to finish now is 16th as long as we don't have 17 winners. But, you know, the worst you're going to finish is 16th. He said that's like $6,700,000 just in the differentiation. Then, you know, you got the historical money from the charters. So, like, that was a big win yesterday just for them.

And like you said, now you've got to back it up. Yeah. I think, you know, one, looking at the rundown here, I think there's some, you know, people that probably deserve a shout-outs, probably Riley for finish in top 10. I mean, that's a good run. I've seen both, I think, where's Cody? 15th.

I think both Rick Ware calls in the top 15th. 14th. So great run for that team. Zane with a solid finish with 13th. Pistrano 11th. Those are solid runs for those guys, man. And Pistrano would have been probably top five. It's five to seven if he doesn't get wrecked.

Because we were on the top. He was following us. And we had a head of steam with Lugano and Kyle in front of us coming down to back. And who knows what would have happened down the back or three and four. Because we were on the bottom. We had Chris behind us. And we were going, the middle was going backwards. Speaking of Chris, he's got to have a good year too.

I mean, he's another guy that he's got to have a good year. Contract year, I think. I can't confirm that, but he's a guy that he's got to have a good year. I mean, you're going to look around, and at some point somebody's got to be able to say, hey, I'm good enough to go getting that four car, right? Who's that going to be? Because it's a weird year for free agencies. I was talking about this with Jordan Bianchi yesterday on pit road.

That's going to be, and look, I've seen guys ask to get out of contracts too. You know what I mean? So it's going to be curious to see what the last year. I say it on here all the time. Every organization that is going to be powerful has to have an A-level driver. and when Kevin Harvick leaves Stuart Hoss Racing, they will not have one in the Cup Series. They're going to have to find one.

And if they don't, their program's going to struggle. And the reason why, it's easy for you to say that. You guys say, why is he saying that? Because when you put Kyle Busch in a car and you put Tyler Redick in a car, you now know I have evaluated my car in my program, how good am I? Because they're going to get all they can get out of the car. And there are other drivers, unfortunately, on teams that you know

they've got to have all the right things go the right way for them to have a chance to win on any given Sunday. But when you put the studs in there, you put a Denny Hamlin in there, Joy Lagano in there, when they crawl out of that car, you're not sitting there looking at the driver going, man, I don't know if he can get the job done.

But when you have a guy like that on you in your organization, and there was a time when Joe Gibbs Racing had three out of four that were all A-level guys. But when you don't have that A-level guy, you cannot evaluate how good is your equipment. A prime example why Chris Rice went and hired AJ. I'm a danger to run road courses. Let's see how good our road course program is.

and while doing so, we know he's going to make it better. And he made other drivers around him better. Justin Haley, Ross Chastain, guys like that. So when you hear me say you got to have an A-level guy, that's why. Yeah. And like one of the things that I shouldn't say it really surprised me, but I wasn't expecting was that Alex Bowman extension. Like we were talking about it, you know, in the off season of, you know,

Bowman's kind of been the odd man out over there, really hasn't performed, obviously, as well as Larson and Chase. And, you know, this is going to be a contract year for him. and he had to step up and apparently his deal already been done because he's got at least a three-year extension over there. I seen Ally was five years, which we talked about that last show, I think, was, you know, Ally is going to be there no matter what.

No matter what. They can essentially pick their drivers. So it's good to see Alex. But who would you have picked to replace him? Like right now. I don't know. You know, there's guys out there. Like somebody did a poll the other day and asked me if I was Stewart House,

who would I put in the four car? My answer was Eric Jones. just I think he's a super talented race car driver he gives me a lot of Joey Lugano vibes of you know didn't work out the first time at Stuart Haas I mean at at Gibbs and maybe he learned a lesson from that and he's getting the most out of that 43 car

that anybody has in a while so you know it's you know it's I think that would be a natural choice for me so I've had the same thing you look at Alex Bowman though Alex Bowman is one cup races four years in a row four years in a row that's not an easy feat one year obviously just two years years ago he had a four-win season, seven wins total in his career. I don't know why you would not

resign Alex Bowman for me. Like I think he's... You're referencing to in comparison to the rest of the guys. I think I think he's your guy. And what was the last organization you were talking about right there? Me? Yeah. Stuart House. Stuart House. Well, I said Eric Jones. I mean, at the Legacy Motor Club, right? Man, there's like Jimmy comes in, Richard Petty's out. Richard Petty's throwing quotes around about it. Like, there's... struck me as strange. Which part? All of it.

I mean, the me... Once again, take the high road publicly. Why was Richard Petty saying something? And I don't... I think that this... The only thing that makes sense to me is this would be upsetting to him because the petty name is gone.

Because it's not like Richard's been the owner or, you know, he hasn't been the owner since I worked there. You know, Andrew Merstein was the majority owner, you know, the, what do you call it? Medallion Cab, Medallion Bank guy. And he came in and bought it from Gillette,

Evanham, right? So Richard, Petty Enterprises has long been out of business, people. So, like, Richard's been more of an

ambassador to the sport or ambassador to the team. I know he was, you know, still maybe, I think he was partial owner when we were at RPM, but I'm pretty sure

when they went to Petty GMS, Mori bought him completely out. It was more, he was the owner, and Richard was more the ambassador. So I don't know. Now, they did make a lot of front office changes.

You know, Richard's son-in-law, Brian Moffitt was over there. He was the CEO at RPM. He was the, I think he was like, the executive vice president when they merged with petty gms he's no longer there philippe lopez was there for a long time he's no longer there so i could see him being maybe upset that some of his people got

pushed out and the petty name got kind of taken off the board over there but i don't like when he says jimmy's coming make all decisions like he hasn't been running the show for quite a while i think yeah and jimmy had a good run going too jimmy did and he looked like he was having a lot of fun so yeah he said he had fun after race he said it was awesome to not have to worry about stage points to just go out there and race and try to do well and they asked him what's your future plans and he said well the plan is to run another race before chicago so it's good to have jimmy here yeah i'm happy for him man it's awesome great for the team too to leave an audio message 24-7 head to anchor dot fm slash door bumper clear and click the message icon we'll be sure they keep playing the best ones each week on the show it is time for the ask dbc question

of the week don't forget to send your questions on twitter each week using hashtag ask DBC and will be sure to answer the best ones. This first one is from Blake Rader. What are your thoughts on the blurring out of the digital dashes, which is a huge topic yesterday? And what could teams be learning from that? If they show that in-car camera again, with all that blurry going on, I'm telling you,

oh my gosh. I can't. It's so bad because it doesn't just blur out the dash. It blurs out half the screen. And I don't even care about the dash. Like put a privacy screen on the dash. do something. We can't be in 2023 with this pixelated.

I'm telling you. You know what you're... Miss Pac-Man had better graphics in 1950. You know what you just ordered up? What? Now we're going to have sponsor logos on the dash whenever you show instead of the blur. I mean, good. That's a great idea.

That's what they should do. I watch the Ranger games at, and the boards are different. Like the TV can place sponsors on the boards that aren't really there. So for what... Put your sponsor on the dash. two may not be as close to it. Explain what information is, should be kept confidential on the dash.

I would say that the biggest thing that they're worried about is our Wi-Fi password for the hollers. But that is, that is true. Can you share that? That is, that is a big deal. Yeah. I would say the engine temperature is probably the most concerning thing that they don't

want to share. I don't know. I feel like everybody probably knows everybody's running. But there's really nothing else on the dash. I mean, we have, I don't even know what we have on there. There's a lot of information, but I don't think any of it.

The engine temp would probably be what I think is. Nobody's getting our lap time. We are not getting that. I mean, there's lap times on there. There's obviously shift like pit road lights. I think there's throttle percentage on there on ours. I can just tell you, a fan watching a home, it is brutal when they show that shot. We watched it.

In-car cameras are my favorite shots in any form of motorsports. And somebody at Fox called me after I sent out of Swig going, this is brutal, fix it. We got it fixed. We got this new technology. You know, these things got to prove late. We didn't get an opportunity to test them. Here's another reason why you should have ran practice.

Because guess what you could have tested? That in-car camera before the duels on Thursday. So one thing I saw is the helmet. The helmet camera. The eye, whatever they call that. The helmet cam is, yeah, the one that Dale tweeted is the camera. Helmet cam's gone. Yeah.

It's like. It's like a pin. It looks like a little button. Like Dale tweet. It looks like, well, I don't mean like pin. I mean like a pin. Oh, yeah, yeah. So.

But the helmet cam's done. Yeah. I, when I saw some replays of that, the sound was different. Really? Did you not hear? I didn't hear it. I watch on mute. They watch a guy going to a wreck and he's going to drive.

Like, I watched one from Ross maybe and he's going to this wreck and he's still wide open down on the apron off the, and he's spinning out wide open still. And I'm like, it did. It was all consistent. Like, it was all. So they're. Not playing the, I don't know if they can't play the audio. There is no audio with it or something like that. But like it was like, he's wrecking and is he, wah!

I'm like, nah. This is weird. That's weird. So Andrew just sent us a note per Adam Stern this morning. NASCAR is working with teams who have driver eye cameras for the Daytona 500 to see if they will agree. Oh, this was for yesterday? Yeah. It didn't happen.

I guess they didn't agree to it. Because I saw. But I mean, listen, that. And then what was the other thing we were watching? Oh, we were watching qualifying. And who was it? Harvick run the apron all the way around the race track. I don't know what he was. They got the ghost car and it gets a little fudged up sometimes.

I deal was there. Harvick went down in the one and just drove. Like they got him laid over each other in the one. And then Harvick's car just drives on the apron and passes the guy. So they've also, they come to the start finish sign and like the car on the main car beats the ghost car. But yet run the last time. I was like, wait. I said that the Brat, we were an oyster pub watching qualify.

I was fine. And I was like, wait a minute, that guy beat him on the racetrack, but the lap time was slower. Yeah, I probably saw the same thing. I was watching. I was like, there's no. He got him. He got. No, he's second.

This next one is from Shannon Wilson. When it comes to making deals on the roof, like, will they let me in or will they follow me? What kind of leverage can you use? And what do you say to make the deal good for them? Just lie. Just lie to them. And say, we'll help you out. Yeah, we'll help you out later.

And then they screw you. Been there. you know, I don't know. You go down there, like, you're trying to come up with a deal that's mutually beneficial to both these, but you're really just trying to help yourself and you know the other guy's trying to help himself. So, you know, you strike deals based upon what's going on at the moment. But the deals up there kind of, I don't know.

I don't really put much stock into them. It's kind of like if you're at the back and you need to make something happen, you go to a guy and say, I'm going to go to the top. Why don't you come with me? All right, we're going to go. So I'll tell blah, we can go to the top here. The 20 is going to go with us or whoever. and we do that and see if it works.

But when you're up front there, I don't trust anybody. And listening to Denny's podcast, I know he mentioned a little bit around manufacturers and working with each other. Is it typically you would work with a manufacturer on the roof or is it anybody? Like we've even split up now on the roof to where we're basically all split up by manufacturers. Used to be stand wherever you want. And now like we stand with all the Toyota guys, I think most of the Ford guys except for TJ stand with the Ford guys.

TJ hasn't moved his spot. He's still down there with us hanging out. but yeah i mean we have meetings all week about basically when we're going to pit what's right you know what sequence we think the pit stops are going to go um you know and then you just try to find like we're talking about you know that the point where we got wrecked in the race we were trying to find there there was three Toyotas lined up front we get two more up there now we got a strong line of five Toyotas leading a top line we were that we were going to be pretty content with that for a while and uh that didn't work out for us but i think even after we got shucked out of there the 1911 them

guys stayed up there for a while. Well, they blocked everybody off of pit road that one time about because of the big wreck. Did they? It's more methodical than it's ever been because of what Freddie just alluded to. You have more teams with more cars out there. I mean, obviously you can have up to four, but then you have alliances within your four. So if you're RCR, you got colleague right. Then you have the OEM alliance is where you're getting team orders.

At the end of the race, though, the majority of these deals are off. If you got a late race restart, you don't know how many teammates are left in the race. You don't know how many OEM buddies are up there. I mean, I looked at Ligano yesterday and I was like, man, he's the best plate racer out there currently in the top five, and he's screwed right here on this restart. At the end of the day, it comes down to something Del Jarrett told me a long time ago, when you take the white flag at a Daytona, Talladega-style racetrack,

you want your momentum to be going forward. If you've missed a blocker, you've missed a bad restart or something, you're toast. You've got to be going forward on the last lap of the race to give yourself a chance to win. What about two to go? Well, you might as well do it with two to go now because we know we don't want to the race is over breath of white. I was talking about experience.

Well, that's true. Yeah, y'all might want to work on that. I just want you to tell me how the meeting goes. You won't be there. Who's going to chew everybody's ass? Let's at least get that part out there. I'm not feeling well. Who is chewing people's ass?

I don't know. Is it Del Jr.? I don't know. Is it L.W. Miller? Can we put like a hit? You want me to FaceTime? Yeah, let's FaceTime. Yeah, let's face it.

We want to know who's going to chew their asses. Which one of y'all is it? So my buddies, Brad and Bobby were in town, and they were hanging out with Noah. They're buddies with him. So they were in Noah's butts watching the race and watching the Xfinity race, I should say. And they said that they were going off about like, how did they f*** this up? I can't believe they screwed this up. How do they pull this off?

This guy's an idiot. This one's an idiot. They turned around and Kelly was sitting there with them. I don't know how that went. That's funny. They were probably too drunk to notice. choose in there, but I thought that was hysterical when they told me that Saturday. Maybe they all three chew their asses.

Like somebody's got to chew somebody's ass. I don't get. Maybe this isn't the proper wording we should be using, but. Oh, it's our podcast. Say whatever we want. I'm just, I'm just really happy with us. He is just four drivers. That's a fact.

I'm just, he has that Justin Allgaier hat on so we can celebrate it. Oh, uh, this is a perfect segue to what an idiot. What an idiot, man. Brett. I've said mine. I've said mine. My one idiot, it's Brett.

Picked his own guy and didn't make the race. Oh, true. Thanks to no practice, partly. Appreciate you. T.J. There's a... A lot. Yeah.

And I hate to give it to some... There's some really inexperienced people in Arka. I mean, it's... When the race director tells you to get in front of another car for four... lap or not four laps it too it was legit two laps that's seven minutes and you don't do it and you're told multiple times and it's just guys don't listen and then you know what arco doesn't choose so they just double up at the line thank god they don't choose well did you imagine here's what happens is it'll be terrible you know when that guy decided he wanted a spot when after we already doubled

up of course and then he comes up there and wedges in and and they put him in front of another car when that moves that guy back a row when he shouldn't be there. So it's just, I don't know, there's just a lot of guys that I'm out. I might change my wood idiot. I don't even know who it was, but somebody sent me a video of I think it was

the 10 car trying to get going and he drives, he tries to drive, yeah, it was Arka race. He was on the apron and he tries to drive straight up the banking and like gets his car hung up. I wish I could remember. Oh, he beached it. He beached it basically. but yeah Murphy was the one that tweeted it

Brian Murphy I had to go back and find it We were also catching a lap car And the guy we were catching We're 30 mile an hour faster than this guy And he hits the apron and the dog leg Wow What do you think happens next? I think it goes

We all close our eyes Yeah well he he starts straddling it wiggling I'm like oh god oh god He's coming up He finally got a little bit like why If you're getting lapped in Arca Just get against the wall Right

I'll give whoever fixes the golf carts or takes care of the golf carts You have more golf cart issues than anybody It wasn't me! She crashed at one at Kansas. No, I'd like to apologize For holding up traffic No, that was Brett's fault right there.

She's kidding. She's getting worked out of it. I pulled the move of all moves Getting out of there last night, by the way. I went out to turn four side And right as I got there, here comes the old police escort. I just happened to have myself

a black navigator. like, boop, lights on and jumped in line. You better be careful. Your police stories are getting frequent. What happens if, what do they do? I mean, can they really know? They tell you get out of line.

Okay, but by that time, you're all, yeah. Yeah, I was ready out. That was good. Oh, I thought I was for me. Well, I apologize for holding up traffic on International Speedway Boulevard for trying to cross the street and my golf cart.

You were trying to cross the International Speedway Boulevard in a golf cart. Well, you can. It's to go across. cross to ICE to the NASCAR building. That's where you park all the carts. And yeah, it broke down in the middle of the street. So I'm really sorry for holding up traffic.

And then it looked really awkward because you were having, you had to like choke the thing at the bottom and just looked inappropriate. And I'm really sorry if there's videos. No, just quit it. Anytime. Let's move on to DVC picks. I just want to tell, I just wish I had the picture of the golf car that I rented. It costs more than my hotel room for Speedweeks, first of all.

It had no windshield in it. It went 3.2 miles an hour. And when you were pressed the gas, it was like a 10 second delay for it to go. Casey, am I exaggerating about how these golf carts are? No, I, nope. It's unbelievable what we get charged to rent pieces. Like, if you're going to charge me a bunch of money,

give me something nice. Can you just bring your own? And I'm not trying to call, like, I feel bad because I don't want to talk negatively about anybody. But, man, I was so embarrassed on the middle of this, like, crowded highway. Police was, they're directing traffic. and I look like an idiot.

Did you get off and push it? She choked it. Somebody push you? The people behind me. Oh my goodness. The choke doesn't work when the battery when the motor's already warmed up.

You got a choke before it's warmed up. Let's move on to what, DBC picks. Who won? I actually won the first race of the year at Daytona by picking Kislauski. So thanks, T.J.

Yeah, well, you were looking, You were looking good for a while. I could have picked Cody Waring, but that's the sad part. Well, Jimmy Johnson finished 31st, so Freddie you got second. T.J. picked Justin Haley,

who finished 32nd. What an idiot. Brett picked Chandler Smith, who unfortunately did not make the race. I want Kyle Larson. Okay. TJ. Ah, man.

We're swinging for the fence? We're going for it already? Go back. You have to. I'll go. I'm making y'all have to swing for the fence. I don't know if I'm swinging for the vets. I'll go with a guy that rebounded last year

and then got destroyed by his teammate. I'll go with Chase Elliott. No, actually, I'm changing my damn mind. I'm going with Alex Bowman. There you go. He won there two years ago. That was going to be my, if I wanted to swing, that was going to be my pick. I'm going to take Eric Jones. He was faster last year.

Bowman likes that place. I will take Eric Almorola. Eric Amarola. And I would like to get credit for actually starting off strong this season because I got a lot of shit last year. You finished 22nd one. Congratulations. It's Daytona. Exactly. It's Daytona. And last year I sucked. I tried to pick a driver who wasn't even ended up. Are you picking on your own this year? Are you getting help? Where's MAPS? Tyler?

MAPS helped me a little bit. I have not reached out to Tyler yet. But Tyler, feel free to help me out. It's going to be cool out there, boys. Cool. It's going to be wet. I think it's supposed to like snow before. It's going to be 35 at night and 50 during the day and good old on Tucky. Last I looked, it was 90% chance of rain every day. We're there. You know NASCAR is in town when it rains on the West Coast. Well, you can't really say that it's going to be, that's a weird place for rain. Hold on. Let me go back on there. California has been very wet this year. But what I saw, it was definitely a chance of rain on a lot of days in 30 and 50. 50 degrees there is cold on that roof too. 95% chance of rain Thursday, 44% percent of

chance rain on Friday. Oh, what's the wind? I need to know that. 82 on Saturday. 82% chance of rain on Saturday? Yeah. And 51 on Sunday. So you're saying there's a chance.

Yeah. And the rain chance is only lower than 50 on the following Thursday. So are we recording the podcast like the following Friday then? We might be doing it remote. This looks to me like I'm going straight to Vegas. Do I need to fly out to Auto Club to record this? Are you coming to Vegas? Yes.

Oh, my gosh. Oh, that's right. We got a big boat. Yeah. Yeah. We have very, yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Very few tickets left. So be sure to get on that right now. Yeah, if you're listening and you want to go, you better buy it because you ain't going to be much buying opportunity left. Yeah. It's going to be fun. But yeah, dude, I'm going to Vegas.

You think I'm going to miss fucking Vegas. I'm going to Vegas if we're not racing. Vegas is a good racing weekend there. It is. You got the races are, the timing is good of them. There's a lot going on there. And you got downtown Vegas. Got the Thunderbirds.

Got the air show. Everything. I'm just kind of, I'm kind of emotional about this Fontana weekend, though, because I, I I love this racetrack. One of my favorite on the planet. It's a good racetrack. Yeah. If you have a chance to go,

highly recommend this year. Yeah. Yeah, there's a lot of good. Fontana's a great racetrack. The drivers have to be precise, the seams, they have to know what they're doing. There's some bumps they got to deal with,

some characteristics. Some. There's a lot of bumps they got to do it. I don't mind. It's good. Characters are the tract. Yeah, you deal with certain things at places. You run the apron in three and four.

I like going there. Who am I going to go? You're not coming out there, obviously, right? Fontana. I'm going Fontana. Are you? Okay. What day we'd go on to the Mexican food place?

I fly out Friday night. So Friday night, I'm kind of a wash. But Saturday, if you want to go to Mexico, we'll go to Mexican. Marriachi band? I'll never remember the name. We'd go to go there, Japanese. Oh, that Habachi place is so good. They always talk about that.

Didn't he sing? Didn't somebody sing something? Oh, no. No, there's like a 47-person band that come out. It's a, it's a, it's a show. I don't know the name of the place. I don't know. I did go to a restaurant in Daytona that I've never been to.

What was the name? Out. The garlic. Oh, good. There's been there. Yeah, or, yeah, you know, in the area. That's really good. I had never been there.

I was there and you guys weren't. So I felt. Well, I was probably working. Yeah. Try that. Text me during the truck race. Hey, I'm about the oyster pub. What are you doing?

I'm like, I'll look at the TV. No. I asked who you, I forgot that you were, whatever, I'm just going to not cover that up. Casey put the qualifying tape on, huh? All right. Well, thank you, as always, to listening to DBC and these idiots over here. Don't forget to subscribe to Dirtyman Media's YouTube page for videos from the show. Tell us how much you love us.

Leave us a rating. It's called PV's. That's the name of the Mexico place. PVs. PVas. Yeah, PVas. Okay. There's a holiday in bar that's really good.

good there too. Jesus, that sounds amazing. Yep. I'll be sure to go around there. Brandon McReynolds would love that place. I'd never seen anybody who likes a hotel bar more than Brandon McReynolds. Oh, well, have a great week, everyone. Yeah, thanks for joining us.

Hey, and guess what, Freddie? What? It's a new NFL season. Say, go bills. Do I get to wreck you this week? Or do you want to skip that? Fontana. That's why I got you last year, right?

Yeah, we're running tough. I think it's the favor should be returned this week. No, no, no, no. I've been wrecked enough for the first two races this year. I really feel. like the favor should be returned this week. Let's just skip it. Let's just.

How about just get, let's just race. Wave me by. See y'all after Fontaine, or hopefully, if we race. Word. There's a brand new episode of Actions Detrimental with Denny Hamlin out now. Head on over to see what Denny has to say.

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