Door Bumper Clear - 282 - Phoenix: "He Was Bullsh!tting"

Episode Date: March 13, 2023

The Door Bumper Clear studio is back to full capacity as Brett Griffin, T.J. Majors and Freddie Kraft have returned from the Phoenix race weekend. The guys discuss William Byron’s early season success, debate if the caution for Aric Almirola cutting a tire was thrown too early, and explain why Hendrick Motorsports had parts confiscated after practice.In Spot On, Spot Off, the table explains why Ryan Blaney could be lying about his thoughts about the new short track package, how Kevin Harvick’s pit stop strategy lost him the race, JR Motorsports and Kaulig Racing’s aggressive teammate battles, and what variables NASCAR needs to consider bringing the choose cone to road courses races this year. Plus, hear their thoughts on Denny Hamlin and Ross Chastain’s contact late in Sunday’s race. Want more DBC? Check out and subscribe to the new DBC YouTube channel! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

This is a production of Dirty Moe Media. Hey, everybody, I'm T.J. Majors. Spotted to the six cup of car and the eight Xfinity car. Back in studio, really here. Brett Griffin, Spotter for Colleg Racing. My next gig is Richmond unless T.J. pulls another hamstring, and I have to go super sub for him. Would they pick you, though?

I don't know. Maybe not. Probably not. What's up? Freddie Craft Spotter for Bubba Wallace, Chandler Smith this weekend. in the very, very super exciting Phoenix raceway. It was riveting. Hey guys, Casey Boat here.

And once again, William Byron lands himself in Victory Lane for the second week in a row. So how was Phoenix for you guys? Well, I mean, just to go back on Byron for a second, you know, we talked about this last year and we've seen somebody do this last year. like two of the biggest races of the year come down to that Vegas playoff race because it puts you in it's the first round of the last round or the second last round I guess and then obviously Phoenix the championship race

and old Bill Byron's gone out and won both of them now so and been I mean you can say circumstances played into it at the end catching caution and stuff but he's been really fast at both of them he dominated the early part of Vegas he dominated the early part of this one and then was in position to win at the end but but these are two important important races and they've come out gunning for both of them.

So knowing that they made some changes leading into Phoenix this weekend and this is the championship race, what do you guys think about changes, adjustments, things that they need to do for November? I mean, the drivers had their hands full more. The few that I've talked to said that the cars were harder to drive, but we still have the arrow issue behind cars and that's the biggest thing. I do like the fact that the car is a little harder to drive. I mean, I'm never against the drivers having to wheel the things. You watch these affinity cars go through the corner.

They're sideways, catching it and driving it off the corner. Cup cars are just so stuck still. Whenever they wiggle, like, you can see when they get loose into three. It's just that quick little twitch, and then your rest of your corner is done too. But, like, the Xfini cars actually, like, drive it sideways off the exit of the corner. When you're watching these in-car cameras, the more the driver's hands are moving, the harder the cars are to drive. I'm telling you right now, the driver's hands ain't moving much.

So I don't think they're... Yeah. Well, these cars are a fine line, though. I don't think they're, quote, that hard to drive. I think there's an edge, and you can't really feel that edge, and then all of a sudden you're wrecking. There is the area where you can drive the car like that and have all the hand movement is very...

It's a much smaller window in the cup car, because as soon as you cross that line in the cup car, it's snapping. Yeah. Yeah, that's exactly what it looks like on TV, which is obviously where I was watching from this weekend versus being on the roof with you guys. And it's, man, it's frustrating. as a fan to know that that's where we're going for championship weekend.

When we have all of these amazing racetracks around the country that put on better racing than Phoenix, Jamie McMurray sat on this show last year, and he said, when is the last time Phoenix put on a good race? I believe he said 1989. I think he did say 1989. That's a long time ago. I was seven. Seven.

I was breakdancing to Bobby Brown, I think, in 1989. New edition. Listen, I mean, we'll talk more up with a package later, but it's just, like, it does not matter what package you bring to Phoenix. Like, to Jamie's point, 550, this package, any package is never put on a, I don't ever remember going, wow, that was a phenomenal race at Phoenix. Like, when was the last time that ever happened? I don't know.

The weird thing is, as a participant in the sport, I always enjoyed watching qualifying at Phoenix. It was always kind of exciting to hear the own and all throttle, to watch them cut that dogleg after they did the reconfiguration. But man, for whatever reason, when you do it, drop the green they're five wide coming out of turn three and the next thing you know it's single file and it's over i mean that's how that's how that's all it was yesterday i mean i don't know you ran i see i feel like you ran fourth to sixth or seventh all race long great great race for you yesterday yeah yeah we're

about 98 percent of it yeah we had very in uh we had an issue there uh just we just shift he couldn't get in gear like something was messed up and i saw him coming i figured he missed a shift or something broke because he i thought we were splitting it we were We were splitting them. I know. Like he was, I don't know where you restarted, but we were about 20th,

and we went around you. And it was just like, you were definitely having an issue. It was clear. But like, that's how the race was yesterday. Like, it's just wherever you gained it. We started 19th.

We gained a couple spots on pit road, maybe one or two on a restart. We got up to 11th. We could run 11th. We could run, wherever we kind of shook out in line. That's where you ran. And then we had a issue on pit road.

We went back to about 23rd or 21st. And guess where we ran the next two to, two runs. So 19th to 21st until we got, you know, we got the lucky caution at the end there to wave around, get tires, and have a good restart to get 14th. But if it's just wherever you shook out after the restart, that's where you were going to run maybe plus or minus one position. There was just no passing. It's crazy late race caution to bring out the yellow with Harrison Burton spun out wrecked, blew a tire. It looked like. That sounds like he blew a tire. The tire blew after he spun. Yeah. I mean, they all blew after he spun it. Yeah.

I heard Tyler telling somebody that they thought they cut a tire is what caused him to spin and then obviously all four. It looked like the way the wreck played out of what you could see on TV that was due to a tire. But why was he three lapsed time to begin with? I couldn't tell you. I know there were. There were some comments on Twitter around whether that caution was thrown way too early, meaning whether there was debris or not they were going to call caution because of the race.

I get it. You want to, and I talked about this last week, it's usually directly related to your draft king's lineup or who you bet on. that day, but it's a caution. The guy is sideways, spinning across the racetrack and blowing tires out. That's a caution. He drives away and he throws debris everywhere on top of it.

It would have been a caution at lap 40. Yeah, it's a caution. It's a caution. It's a caution every time. It's race altering, but it's a caution. And we complained about last week, Almerola was a caution. You know, like, it's just like, I get it. It's easy. There was stuff all over the race track. Yeah. I know there's low-hanging fruit there with NASCAR and we try to call it out and we see it, but the last two

weeks were not an issue. Those are two legit caution. It's safe to say, I know last year we talked a lot about consistency with NASCAR's calls and wanting to make sure that you know that there's going to be a caution coming right at that moment. Do you all agree that NASCAR has done a much better job the last few races of, you know that there will be a caution if there is an accident like that? I mean, it's a smaller sample size, obviously, but the last two weeks, when they saw a guy sideways sliding across the racetrack with smoke coming off his tires, they immediately threw the caution. There was no waiting to see what happened. I've seen some people saying like, well,

he gathered it up and kept going. Like, well, you don't have, like, if you're either throwing the yellow or you're not, like, that's a caution or it's not. It does not matter the situation of the race. Doesn't matter who's got what lead or, you know, I heard some people talking, well, that ruined a good story for Harvard to win. Well, they're not, they shouldn't be concerned about the storyline that day. It's either, that's not an entertainment flag.

That's a caution flag. And this guy's spinning across the racetrack, throwing it out there, throw the yellow. Like, throw it immediately like they have the last two weeks and hopefully they stay consistent with it. I still think there's some circumstances. to it, you know, whether, okay, so, you know, you go to a plate race, you got a guy that's way behind the pack. There's a great race for the lead. We take the white flag.

They're in the middle of the back stretch. He just goes on to the flat on the front stretch and spins himself out and doesn't even anything. He keeps on going because say that's, you know, teammates lead. So, like, there's times where if a guy's by himself, like, but in a track like Phoenix or a or a mile and a half where it's sideways, just throw the caution if it's the guy's wrecking. You don't know where he's going to end up. Who was, who was calling a race yesterday?

I don't even remember Tim? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So if I'm Tim Berman, I want the authority to call a caution if I think it wants a caution. I don't want to have to take the time to get the committee to vote. And when I see something like what Harrison did yesterday, I'm pressing the button every single time. Yeah.

And if I don't have that authority, guess what? I'm not going to do that job. Yeah. Well, here's the here's. Okay. I'm going to, this is probably not going to make anybody happy over there. I need to take my headset off. Yeah, you probably need to leave.

You want the good news or the bad news first? Neither. Neither. Bad news first. I don't understand why we have four people doing one job. Okay. What's the good news? You know,

well, the good news is Steve Phelps was on the roof again yesterday. Come by, shook everybody's hand. I think that's always a great gesture. I heard a lot of guys when he left talk about how cool it is that he does that. But just to get back on, you know, we had, and I hate this because he's a good friend of mine, Jesse Little called the race on Saturday. and you could tell that he is inexperienced at doing that job. Right.

You know, there's a lot of, I felt like there was extra caution laps when we didn't need to have caution laps because, and it's, it's, listen, I don't think that's on him. It's not an easy job. I don't think that's on him. And I think it's because it's, it's, it's. And why we have so many yesterday? It's the confidence. I love what these two argue with each other. It's the confidence of, can I open pit road at this point?

No, I should. They're too far across the racetrack. Or can we go to one to go here? they're too far down the back stretch, you know, and I'm sure he's getting help. We heard it last week on the radio when I think it was Tiffany was doing it. Like you could literally hear the people in the background telling her what to say. That annoys the a bit of it. I don't understand.

I don't understand. Like I feel like these people are more than capable of doing their job and this job to me should be a kind of a sink or swim position. Like if I could never spot if Brett standing over my shoulder going, tell him inside. Tell him to this guy's five back. You know, like this is either get out there and do the job or you're not ready. And I don't know why we use our second highest series as a training ground. It's really not fair to the competitors of the Xfinity series. Like when we were, when I first started doing this 10 years ago, 12 years ago, whatever it was, David Hoots did every race.

Every single race we did. Then like towards the end of his career, Berman was doing some of the Xfinity races. But we have two guys up there that are really, really good at their jobs between Tim Berman and Jusson Hamilton that have been, doing this for many years now. And I don't understand why we bring in inexperienced people to throw in there once in a while. And this is not a knock on Jesse or Tiffany.

I just don't understand why we have four people doing the same job. Like what are what's what I mean? If Tim and Juzon are moving up to a different position, then by all means, congratulations to them and then you need backups. But I don't know. I don't get it.

I don't think that's on. I noticed yesterday too we had extra lax. Yeah. And they've been doing that lately with the clean the racetrack. up for an issue. I'm going to tell you what the extra laps for. On the front end, they're waiting on television. Yes. Television goes to commercial, and I didn't always know this as a

spotter. Television goes to commercial. It takes a couple minutes when that's over with and they come back hot. That's when they let you up hit. Yeah. At the end of those stage breaks. It's 100% it. It was noticeable last week and it was noticeable this week. But it's been like the thing that gets me is it's been the same

forever. We've known this. Stage breaks. It's two laps. You know, usually yellow flag, it would be Pick up the pace car, first time around, pit road would be open. It's been a little bit more now. Yeah, it has. Because they're waiting. But then I felt like Saturday was more than normal.

You know what I mean? Like I felt like. It's a shorter track, though, too. I feel like we talked about this on Saturday. I mean, I was sitting over there like. Have you met T.J.? He's getting to contradict himself any second. I mean, I'm sitting there thinking the same thing.

We all are. Whenever you're just, all right, it's going to, you're telling your driver, hey, because you're reiterating. It's not open yet. because you're expecting it to be able. At some point one time this year, somebody's coming down in Pitt Road and they don't mean to. Yeah. I mean, we had one time where half the field shows because they thought we were coming to one to go. Well, that's because the flagman had the flag rolled up. But the same thing, like we get used to the same cadence. Pit Road's closed. When

pit roads closed, that means we're coming to choose. Not this, not Saturday. Pit road is closed for what, two or three laps? I wish we, so you go to an, you're probably a commercial. You go to an NFL game. There's usually a clock counting down to when you're back live. Like, I wish there was some sort of a countdown deal. Dude, they wouldn't even give us a clock when we had a clock for qualifying. We legitimately could not see the qualifying clock. It'd be nice to know though. Like, hey, you know, we got a minute 34. We're back

live. I feel like, and I feel like I've beat this horse of death on this show before. We don't stop now. Like, I don't understand why we have different people doing different, the same, like, why is the flagman, not the flagman every week? You know, because that was a problem we ran into yesterday. Here's a comparison. Would Bubble Wallace want a different spotter every three

weeks. No. Like the flagman, we ran into an issue on Saturday because the flagman was rolling the one that looked like he was giving one to go instead of waving the flag. I was counting like crazy. You know, you got. No, I wasn't because I just, I never heard him say one to go. So I didn't even look at the flag man because I keep looking every time you look at that flag man, he throws you off. Because that was that one guy, I don't even know who it is rolls the flag up every time we come by. So you think you're coming to one to go. And then, you know, just that, you know. Did you hang out with Joel a bunch this weekend? Because you sure do have a shit. No, I'm good.

I just don't understand. He's, he's upset. Like, we talked about this in our meeting in the beginning of the year. We have different spotter officials a lot. Oh, I fussed about that. You know, why does that, like, why do we not have, which it's been better lately, I feel like it's been Sacco and Kyle for majority of the year. But we had an issue last year in the truck race because it was an inexperienced guy up there

that wasn't calling in a restart order. It wasn't that big of a race, though. It was only the championship for the truck series. I mean, it's not that big a deal. But it's just like we, I don't understand, and I get it. Like, you want to have variety. You want to have people that can fill in if somebody's going to be out. But, like, I don't understand why.

If you have capable people on the property, put your most capable person up there and leave them there. Yes. How do you expect somebody like Jesse Little to learn then? There's ARCA. There's K&E, there's Hickory Motor Speedway. There's tons of opportunities. There's thousands of races run a month all over the country. You know, spend more time, you know, I, Jesse started there.

towards the end of last year, maybe Darlington. I think I remember the first time I see him being up there. And, you know, so now he's, what, three or four months into training, you know? Like he trained the tail end of last year, probably through the playoffs. Obviously a very experienced racer legacy. Chad Little's his dad drove the John Deere car back in the day is a big dog now with NASCAR. He's a NASCAR brass. I feel like.

It's not like he's not a racer. And he's, I feel like he's doing a pretty good job to start with. I think he's learning pretty quick. And my point, I think my point is, if, Let him do his job. Yes, let him do his job. Like, if you're going to have these people up there, this is sink or swim. Like, here you go.

Obviously, they'd be there for support. But you can hear, you can literally hear these people telling them what to say over the radio. Like, that's not letting them do their job. Just kind of, listen, if they're trained and they're ready, they should be in position to be able to handle it. If they are just going to, if they're going to let them do their job, then they have to deal with you guys complaining if they make a mistake and saying that they're so new. Yes, because if they're not ready, they shouldn't be there. That's my point.

So you should have told Chandler how to do his job and turn three there. I don't know why you hit the break so hard. So. Y'all wreck each other a lot. Have y'all noticed that? No, I just wreck him a lot. It's usually him wrecking me. Hey, you know what the best part about of Phoenix is, right?

What? We stand right next to each other. Oh, good. I look over Brady and it's like, yep. That's on me. Brett, you know, watching this race from home, what did you think not being there this weekend? And what do you think of the broadcast? What did you think of overall the race?

I thought the product was a little bit better than what I thought it was going to be. Obviously, lap times were considerably slower it looked like with this package. And we have screamed for years on here. We want more horsepower. We know that's not going to happen at this point. Denny had some ideas about the tires on how you make them slip and slide. I don't know if you ever really go to Phoenix and put on a great side-by-side battle to the end race. You know, and I think fans say, I saw a fan yesterday, it should be hard to pass.

These are the best drivers in the world. Okay, I'll give you that, but we should be able to have more of an opportunity to get positioned to make a pass. And I think that's where the struggle is at this particular configuration of racing. But again, I mean, I saw five wide racing yesterday. I saw four wide racing. The restarts are absolutely insane. The way the strategy played out at the end, some people made the right choice,

Some people made the wrong choice. They had crazy restarts after that to come back to see who was going to win the race. So if you're a race fan, I don't know what more you really want out of that place because it ain't going to give you more than what it gave you yesterday in a cup car, probably ever. No. No, it's just that's the way it is there. I thought Denny's comments on the tires are pretty interesting, though. Me too.

I didn't think of that. The more of the drivers have their hands full, the more they're going to be. I mean, give me off-throttle time. Oh, they got to be able to roll. Give me off throttle time. Why are you off throttle? Because you can't get in. I mean, you're loose or you're tight or whatever.

You're going to spend out. Give me off throttle time, and that creates the opportunity to pass. If we're all busting around there and using 96% throttle throughout the course of a lap, we're not going to see passing. It's just the way it is. But they got what they wanted out of this car last year, all those different winners. You know, personally, I appreciate years where a guy wins seven to ten races, and that tells me two things.

A, the drivers on his game, B, the cars are being, the cars are being built very fast, but it takes us back to this car. And I was sitting there with my stepdad yesterday. Roy, we were watching a race, and a car pounded a wall. I'm telling you just pounded this of it. And I was like, well, Gramps, back in the day, that thin sheet metal on that car that was handmade by a fabricator would have been killed. And this car would have probably been going to pit road for sure, not this car, not with this body. You can break things on the car when you hit the wall that hard. But that body, that's a tough one. And it's a one piece, body. So I don't know. There's just a lot going on. Obviously, we're early in the season.

A lot of racing left to play out. And yeah, I thought it was as good as it's ever going to be, Casey, to answer your question. Speaking of car parts, see, I don't know if you saw the news, Hendrick got their louvers taken away. I did see that on Friday. I think they let him practice on Friday, right, and then they took them away for qualifying. So this would be interesting to see. I don't think it slowed them down. It did not seem to really affect them much. But listen, TJ's first-hand knowledge of this, if you technically modify one of these single-source parts, what was it?

100 points, 50,000, something like. It was a lot. Yeah, it was a lot last year. So it'll be interesting to see if that same penalty gets levied tomorrow. It seems to me like sometimes Hendrick can skate by sometimes for some reason. Jeff Gordon-Thirt, kind of playoff. Well, that comes to mind, among other things. You know, track attack.

There's a lot of different things you could talk about. Garage 56. What was that? Yeah. But it'll be interesting. And it's like they confiscated them for a reason. So, you know,

the only other side of the argument is last year, the Penske, supposedly there was a issue. NASCAR knew there was an issue with the production of these louvers and told the teams, listen, we're working on it, but don't mess with them,

you know, and I guess they felt like Hendrick messed with them because they took them. And, but, you know, we saw last year. They may apologize and give them back. We saw last year when Penske and Roush messed with the wheels,

they originally got in trouble. And then NASCAR said, you know, you know what? You guys are right. You can modify your wheels. Still got a penalty. Did you get a penalty for that? Yeah. I didn't think you got a penalty.

I thought that was. No, we still got a penalty for that. What was the penalty? Cheater. I forget. I don't think you got a penalty for that. I'm pretty sure we did. I'm pretty sure you got the, obviously, the quarter panel one.

But I don't think there was a penalty. I think they, no, there was, I'm pretty sure there was. I don't remember that. But I remember the next week we all were told to do it. So if they gave you a penalty for it, then that was ridiculous. That's the bad part about it. You were cheating and then they let everybody cheat. Obviously pending, you know, the feedback on potential penalties,

looking at William Byron and Chevy overall and their trends, do you think that William, at least is a championship contender if he's in the final four? I don't think so. He's only one, two out of four races and I already got ten play. points. Maybe unless he loses tomorrow. I think he definitely is. I mean, the Chevroletes is a whaler just so much faster than everybody else right now.

I mean, I thought Brad did a great job yesterday. Obviously, Kevin got up there, arguably his best racetrack and a super talented Hall of Fame guy. He was going to win. He was going to win. He ran the five dollars. But in general, those Chevys, especially Hendrick, they're flying. Four for four.

Four for four. This is the first time since 2001 that Chevy's won the first four races. Wow. The season. Parity. And it goes back to, you know, this is these guys, you know, last year we had a lot of parity because these guys were looking for cars in the beginning of the year. They were trying to get cars. Now they had a, now they've had a year to work with these cars. They've had cars in the shop all off season, you know, coming back and forth, putting them rear clips on. But, you know, you've had cars there to work while and fine-tune. And now you're starting to see, we talked about last week when you guys were taking a break. You know, this is with the cream starting to rise to the top. And it's been the same guys every week. Bell and Byron, I'm not sorry, Larson and Byron have dominated. the last two races. I mean,

Bell's been up there too, but. Yeah, he's just top five. I mean, them two are dominating. All right, let's head into spot on, spot off. Spot on, spot off. Spot off. Spot off. Yeah, spot off.

It was super fun yesterday to ride around there. I am spot off. Damn. Where did he come from? Freddie, since you are on top of your game today, spot on, spot off. I've added notes, by the way, so this is it. I'm done.

Thankfully, we are at the final topic because I don't know that we can handle it much more. I thought it was a good race. I don't think a lot of people agreed with you. I told you we should skip a spot-off. I absolutely told you we should skip it. Straight to DBC picks. Let's start one idiot right now. Yeah, let's just, I mean, what an idiot could probably be a 30-minute segment right now.

First topic, Ryan Blaney says it's hard to tell if this new short track package is better after Phoenix hosted the first race with the new rules. Friday. Spot on for Ryan. I don't like to, like we talked about, I don't want to judge this package based on a track that's never really had a good race at it, you know, or, you know, no matter what package we bring there is not a good race. So we've got to see this somewhere else, whether it's Martinsville or Richmond, and to get a better feel, I think.

But what I saw yesterday wasn't, and to TJ's point earlier, but, you know, we were, we were free all day yesterday. We were kind of on edge and had to be guarded. and I think there's a lot of guys like that. But at the same time, he didn't see anybody wrecking. He didn't see anybody out of control, you know. So it's hard to say that they were so on edge that, you know, it made a huge difference.

But it is what it is for Phoenix, and I'll be interesting to see what happens at Richmond. How many guys missed turn three yesterday? Like... I would shoot up the hill. None. Not that I. I mean, there was a couple guys doing it on purpose.

I mean, there was guys that would miss the corner, but the correction is like half a car. length and no momentum. You're not like you're not missing the corner going all the way to the wall. I didn't see anybody get all the, you know how you normally see some guys? Yeah, that's what I'm asking about. Yeah, no, no, no. Not there. I mean, to me, man, that tells me this car still ain't hard enough to drive. The fact that Ryan Blaney said it's hard to tell if this is going to be better. Isn't enough. It scares me because he knows and if he had something positive to say about it, I feel like he would have said it. Surely in his mind, he's able to predict what this is going

to do at some of these other tracks. He's a professional Cup Series driver. So if it's hard for him to tell, who the hell's going to tell? I'm spot off for this statement because I don't think he's being honest. I think he's bullshitness. I think he knows and he was scared to say.

You're thinking he was acting like, TJ? Brett kind of stole my... I was kind of spot off on it too because if he's not sure, it's not enough, in my opinion. Like, you know, if he's just not sure, it's just there's not enough of a change. They need to come out of their being like, I think what Brett's saying is he is sure, but he's not saying it.

I think if TJ made a significant change on his eye racing rig, he would tell you if it was better or worse. And we have a Cubs series driver saying, I don't know. It's hard to tell. You know what I found out last night. John's upset with you. John Kraft? My brother. He said he pushed you all the way to lead you the other night and you bailed on him as soon as you could.

Are you surprised? We're talking about T.J. What do you want me to do? I am. I'm there for him to win. Sorry, Johnson. Spot on, spot off. Kevin Harvick said,

I'd rather be on offense after he took four tires on the last pit stop of the day, losing the lead in the race to William Byron, who only took two tires. Brett. Spot off for what he said. You lost the race. You had an opportunity to win,

to lock yourself into the playoff at your best track, and you had a three-second lead. You have a three-second lead with under 15 laps to go. Obviously, the caution comes out. They can't change that. Now you have to make the right call. And the reality is you're probably going to have another caution because somebody's going to make a move.

Somebody's going to be aggressive. Somebody's not going to lift. So you're really only looking to have to run five or six green flag laps potentially. And if you get buried back in traffic, I'm surprised that somebody didn't just stay out. And I realize you say, well, they'd been on all tires. But you may not have to run many laps. And if I'm the last car on the lead lap, but what do I care?

What am I going to lose? I'd have to look back and see where he shook out. But the guy that I thought potentially might have stayed out and didn't was Eric Jones because he ran so long on, you know, he stayed out forever on that last run and had way less tires of anybody. But he may have had to weigh there. He can't remember. He's a lap down because he lost the league.

He can't remember. I'll give Harvick props for saying the right thing. But the reality is they did the wrong thing. Could he have known that everybody else is taking two tires before they made that call? You can assume. I would have assumed if I were leading the race that somebody in the very, very back is going to stay out. And somebody mid-packed, multiple people, eighth on back, would get two tires. And then he comes out seventh and then he's buried.

Yeah. I mean, this is obviously Monday morning quarterback. Yes, that's what we call a couch racer. Yeah. I mean, so, you know, it's, you have to assume if you're not in the front two rows on that last restart, with three or four to go, your chances of winning are really, really slim. You know, Reddick was the first one that got to the front on tires, and he was, you're just boxed in.

You can't go anywhere. You know, Reddick was coming down a backstretch and basically decided the race. Whoever he was going to push off a turn two was going to win the race. He pushed Byron out front, but then he could never get clear to make a move on Byron. And Kevin was behind him. I don't think Kevin really went anywhere. I mean, he wasn't Blaney. Who, no, Reddick.

Reddick Blaney was on the bottom trying to pass Byron. Reddick had the, Reddick was the fastest car at the end, but couldn't go anywhere. He pushed, he pushed Byron Plas Blaney. But, you know, it's just the four tires was a little bit better, but it wasn't good enough to, we saw all day you couldn't pass. So guess what, guess what happens when we go back in this same scenario for championship weekend? Everybody gets two tires. Yeah.

Why would you get four? You just saw you get screwed. Yeah. Like I just, you know, and listen, I think Rodney is top two, three, three. crew chief in the garage. And especially if you're thinking, you know, you want to play offense instead of defense, that's your call, I guess.

But if you, I feel like if your, your car was the best car, obviously, on a long run. And there's no guarantees he would have won. The five come out with the best car, I think, all day. And especially on short runs, came out on two tires and lost the race, probably because of his lane choice. But that's another topic.

But, you know, so there's no guarantees if he puts two tires on, comes out with the lead, he's going to win. But at least you're still on the front row where you would hope to still be on the front row, and I think that's your best shot versus restarting 6th or 7th, wherever he was, on four tires. Yeah, I don't know, I'm kind of, I'm spot on because I've been in, I would rather play offense with two, but you can't play offense if you're boxed in that far.

You don't, you don't know how many, if only two get two tires, he probably, he could possibly win the race then. But you just don't know when you're coming down pit road. I mean, if you have the fastest car at that point in a race, that's what I mean, I'm probably I'm probably going to take four because you figure only a couple we're probably going to... That tells me there needs to be more...

Tire follow. Yeah, in the race. There needs to be more penalty for doing that. Like, Eric Jones ran a long time. And there was some fall-off, but I'd still like to see a little bit more than what there was. I would rather play offense.

You just don't want to play offense when you come out, you know, seventh or eighth in line and there's a green-white checker. That's not going to work out well. Moving on to the Xfinity Series race. I can't wait. Three of the four junior motorsports drivers finished outside of the top 10 after Sam Mayer spun Josh Berry and Brandon Jones got into Justin Allgaier.

Can't believe somebody spun you out. Oh, TJ, spot on, spot off. Well, let's first start with Freddie. I didn't do anything. I was just sitting there. I mean, spot off because there's just a lot of things that are happening that shouldn't be happening still. I don't know. That talk you guys had after Daytona sure is working well.

I don't know what you're talking about. Have you got any meetings? I haven't been any meetings. Just my team meetings. Your commitment's pretty low this year. You used to go to all the meetings. No, not, I haven't been to meetings like that.

I've been to the team meetings. I'm not going. I don't want to go to the other ones. I'm sure they're a lot. I'm sure they're pretty entertaining. It seems like my car is always the one getting hosed. I don't know what the problem is here. I mean, geez.

We had them all whipped at Daytona and somehow we, I mean, that was, I don't know how. I mean, I do know how. but then we go to Phoenix here and we're just eight laps to go on the stage, going to get some stage, well, just kidding. I mean, I don't know. It's just, you don't know. I mean, have you heard anything that. It's just stuff that doesn't need to happen.

Have you heard of anything that the teams are doing to kind of help with the overall morale, I guess? At some point, somebody's got to sit these guys down. Like, it's just, at some point somebody's throwing hands. Yeah, something. I don't know who I want to fight for. on it. They're throwing bumpers again.

Look, I'm spot on for this, man. Oh, you love it. I do love it. As a guy that's watching racing, I mean, I watch Colleg Racing wreck each other on the last lap too. I mean, you got Kyle Busch and Chandler Smith wrecking each other, literally coming to the checker, costs both themselves a position. Freddie, I would love to hear your take on that particular list.

But look, they're not teammates. They're teams within an organization, right? They're not teammates. If we're teammates, we're on the same side trying to do the same thing. That's not the case. These guys are on their own team. for their own sponsors and their own crew chief and their own legacy. And they're getting all they can get.

And it just so happens. The guy they're screwing is in the same organization as them. The Dallas Cowboys and the Washington Redskins have never been teammates. That day don't exist. Even if the same guy on both teams, they wouldn't be teammates. This isn't a football podcast, Brad. I know. You guys get mad.

Some of these listeners get mad. But I think as a fan, it shows you how hard they're trying versus, look, if this were F1, would this be? happening over and over and over? Hell no. We know why because they have quote team orders because these owners look at it differently. Our guys are able to go out there and get after it. The fans win in this situation. Pretty what happened to your rate? You know, I really don't know. I'll tell you what happened there. Yeah. First of all, it's to be your second wreck or third ring. Yeah, you got to clarify that.

Listen, I was, I really, I was kind of shocked. I really don't know because I remember we talked about here like getting caught off guard. I didn't. really we had ran the 10 down. We passed him. The 10 is Cowbush. Cowbush is in the 10. Chandler's in the 16, obviously. We ran them down. We passed them where we got a position on them off of two, went in three and four past him. He tried to cross us over, drove straight into our back bump or almost turned Chandler head on on the wall at that point. And then they race each other down the backstretch. And I still thought we had position. Like, if you could get through one and two pretty smooth up top, you were going

to have a better run off of two and get them now. I still haven't seen a good enough replay of it. I saw one quick on the big screen at the track when I was trying to get off the roof. Chandler might have held him a little bit tight. Kyle looked like he kind of sent her in there. And I don't know if Chandler was expecting Kyle to be on the bottom, you know, try to hook the bottom there. You know, turn one? Turn one, yeah. Yeah.

Chandler chased him down. Yeah. Like I couldn't tell. I still, honestly, I have no idea. He didn't run the top. He chased him in his door on purpose. And Chandler, Chandler did run kind of a different line. And over there, he wasn't entering high.

He would run in the middle and then run him to the top. But, you know, if he, if he held him. down we shouldn't have done that Kyle you know I just don't understand like we were just past you we're coming back to the checker I guess you know you're trying to get the best but like Chandler's a full-time team over there Kyle's in a I don't know he's gonna run three or four races over there so I don't know why we were racing each other that hard coming to the checker for third place but we did and we cost ourselves race everything you can get yeah I'm you know I guess so do you think Kyle should have held back I don't think anybody should hold back I just don't know

that we needed to raise each other as hard as we did. Get off his door. Yeah, well, I'm just saying, I'm saying each other. I'm not saying Chandler's, I have not seen it. So I can't tell you whether. I can tell you, no, I'm not going to be Team Chandler right now. If this was not Kyle Bush, here's some insight. If this was not Kyle Bush, and this were Daniel Hemrick and Chandler Smith,

what do you think Chris Rice does immediately after that race? Probably choose, well, you choose both their asses out for sure. Okay, all right, now, it's not them. It's Kyle Bush and Chandler Smith. What do you think Chris Rice does after that race? Choose Chandler Smith's ass. You think so? I would bet.

I haven't, I've done that. I don't know for a fact one way or the other. Kyle's not going for a championship. I don't know that you can get in the business of chewing Kyle Busch's ass. Exactly right. I don't think that's a good business to be in. I don't know what happened. I don't want to be the owner that business.

I haven't talked to Chandler or Chris since then. It's a compliment of the Chandler, though, because you're racing with Kyle. You know, you're racing with arguably one of the... This is the second week in a row, Chandler's outrun Kyle in the same stuff. But that's like, but that he's gaining the knowledge. that he needs to learn here, but he's not, like, the replay I saw, he just went down in there and Kyle's or in Kyle.

And listen, Chandler has that habit right now, and that's something we've been working on. He probably didn't even need to do that. No, he didn't. And that's kind of what I just, I kind of stressed that down the back store, I guess it's the front stretch now.

Nobody's going to follow him to the corner. I said, just get a good run off of two here. You're going to be fine. And if he went down there and chase him around, then that was a mistake on Chandler's part. Because, like you said, if he just rips the top, we had already run him down the pass.

I'm telling you right now. Kyle Busch isn't going to follow him to that corner. The replay that I saw was Chandler on his door tight, yes. Kyle Busch's job is to know that. Kyle Busch lost it and washed up in the Chandler. It's what I saw in the replay. He lost it because he didn't have any side force. But you knew that.

You knew that guy was on your door. So to me, it's one of those deals where it's a racing deal, and they were both literally trying to get all they can get. And that's all you can ask for. And they didn't recognize. each other. Yeah, they cost each other a couple spots. They were running up for third, right? That was for third. I think we finished fifth. He was ninth. You make your own luck.

Chandler's kind of in control at that spot because he's in the... He's also a rookie. Can you tell Chandler spun T.J.'s guy out of? He's also a rookie and you guys race like that in a truck series. That's where he came from. I mean, you definitely learned that in the truck series. Truck series races like idiots. There's no way I could race in that series. I'd kill somebody. That's some of the stuff we've talked to Chandler about like... How good is Chandler Smith? Honestly. How surprised you? I'm surprised. pleasantly surprised at how talented he is.

And on top of talent, extraordinary feedback really works really good with Bruce, crew chief, and surprises me. Like, you know, points in that race, I thought we were a top 10 car. And then at some points, I'm like, you know, holy shit, we're going to run third right here or fourth, you know, because he had really good restart, super aggressive, but clean on restarts. You know, he's just doing an incredible job right now and he just needs to keep it up. And there's, like we've talked about, I've talked about with him, I've talked about with the team. like we have a couple little things we got to clean up and that's one of them like get rid of that

truck series mentality if I got a you know truck series is all air racing like it's just get on the guy's door that's got a resource so you got to dig yeah and so you know if if we can get off of that truck series a little bit and and just get to racing and worrying about what we got to do I think he's going to be in really good shape he'll be great at the road courses he's great at driving deep into the corners I see that one coming to like like I did Kyle was it was it was it was It was one of them ones where you see the guy in front of you sewed on, you know, and the guy behind you hasn't slowed down. And I'm literally telling Josh, I swear I said hold the break before you even got hit.

Because you just knew it was going to happen. It was one of the deals. It's in the three, too, so it's driving right at us. And Kyle was on our bumper. And it was like he was maybe more worried about Kyle driving and hitting him. And he kind of overdrove the entry. And I'm like, oh, shit. And boom, right in the back of the gate, turning him right around.

I was like, oh, that wasn't even close. Well, shout out. You weren't the only one. Shout out to Josh Barry, though. He might not have finished very. Were we the highest finish in J.R.M cars still? Probably. I think the eighth or something.

Yeah. Hey, shout out to Sammy Smith, by the way. Kid did an unbelievable job. Obviously, those cars are super fast, and he's capitalizing on a great opportunity right now. That car seems to always, the 18 at Phoenix seems to always be. Shout out to Ryan Truex, too. Like, middle of the race, I'm like, this guy's struggling. Like, he was, he was, you know, 12th to 15th-ish, and I'm like, you can't run there in that car.

And then at the end of the race, he was a fucking hauling ass. No, I don't know how he, like, they didn't give him tires, but I don't know where he came from either. Yeah, I'm pretty sure. And how do you drive from the back to the front? I don't know. Like, it just maybe cold tires compared to the rest of us? Are you sure they didn't give them tires? I'm pretty sure.

I don't know. How could they give them tires? They don't give anybody else tires. I mean, if they, you know, you don't get tires for spinning out. Listen, I'm just asking. What? Was it a hinder car? But, no, so Truex was hauling ass at the end, got back up the second.

And I thought for a second there he's going to have a shot at Sammy, but good job by those two. And shout us to Josh Barry for getting a top 10 in the Cup series. Really cool to see him. I worked way harder that race and I wanted to. Freddie, jerk. Sorry about that. Oh, final topic. NASCAR adds the choose cone to road course races starting at CODA in a few weeks.

Spot on, spot off, Freddie. You're shaking your head. Spot off. Why are we doing this? Like, I get it at ovals. I know why we do it at ovals, but what road course do we go to where there's a preferred line, like a dominant line. Sonoma?

Sonoma. The left side. So you're going to give up. So you're going to choose, you're going to both go the right side? I might give up a row to be in the left. You're so full of shit. I'm telling you right now. So you're going to go, you're going to restart. Don't beep that shit now.

Let that shit fly. I'll take responsibility for it. You just added three more. So you're going to, so we come to the choose line. You're running second. The leader. No, you take the front row if you're a leader. Oh, no.

Like you didn't say. Are you planning on being a leader there? That's what I'm saying. You're not being a leader. But you're going to start giving up rose mid-pack? You're not going to give up rows of road course. You might want to make it more than five laps where you worry about choosing, Freddie. Five laps.

Okay. Whatever. How many laps you got a snowman in the last year? I don't know. How many laps did we run last year? I have no idea. I couldn't tell you. Wasn't it last year?

I don't think so. Blue up or whatever? Maybe we blew up there. Yeah. I'm sure. That was all about this ball. Oh, yeah, because you were drinking beer up there with me. Yeah.

Yeah. So they also were going back to the normal one that we're used to as well, not the, not the. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So here's my question. There's so many questions about this. For one, why are we doing it? I don't think there's anywhere that there's such a preferred line you're going to give up rows to start, especially on the front row. Because the preferred line literally changes the next corner.

So, you know, everywhere we go, it's usually a right and then a left or, you know, maybe two rights, but then you have a left at some point quickly. I don't understand why we're doing this. I don't know if the driver's asked for it or if NASCAR just, you know, thinks it's a good idea but like then there comes in the question where are they putting this choose v yet because we don't get one to go at the line that's a question we don't get one to go at the line at any of the road courses so now are you putting it at the line so we choose the line and then we get one to go and turn seven at sonoma or the bus stop of walkins glenn we don't know that answer are you going to put it where we can see it or anybody can see it like you're not going to see it unless you're

to roll yeah like you know so now we have all this historical data based on what lanes are preferred and what lanes, you know, are better than the other ones, which I don't think you'll have to worry about that at road courses. But, you know, now the spotters have, you know, part of our job is to count these cars and let these guys know where they're going. Because if you're running to your point, if you're running 15th, the driver's not in there going, all right, looks to me like seven went this way and seven. Like, they don't know. So now if we can't see it, maybe our backup guys who haven't done it yet can't see it or can see it, but they're not used to calling it. Like, it's just so many, I don't know. I just don't understand why we're doing it.

Like, you're going to bring that indie car guy out of retirement, put them where the shoes cone is? Yeah. Here's my question. How many rule changes did we have over this winter? I mean, a bunch. A significant amount of rule changes. How many road courses have we run this year? None.

So why are we throwing more rule changes out here? Caitlin Vincey sat on this show and she said, it's hard to keep up with all the rules. And this is why? because we're having rule implementations coming at us all the time and if it's safety related I am all for it but sometimes your bed's made you got to lay in it and and this this is the frustrating part for me is why do we constantly have rule changes it drives me bonkers let me ask you this when do they show the choose on TV yes and they like they have their garage going everywhere it is it is it is zoomed in and you can see guys literally dive one way or the other and it's sometimes

it backwards for us because they're driving right at you and the graphic on the screen is the other way. Yeah, it's opposite of what's on the inside from what we would think. I mean, that's the way I see it anyway, but it's just, it's, it's, it's, it's, leave it alone. Sometimes just leave it alone. I just, I thought you're, I thought at a road course, you're perfectly fine with giving the leader option on what lane he wants to choose. So we're now choosing everywhere. Everywhere. Everywhere. Everywhere. There's nowhere. We're not choosing. Correct. Well, maybe that was the thing to do from the start. But if that was, that's the case, why are we four races in and now you decide we're going to choose when we get the Cota? That's my problem. Like I said, this could be something the drivers wanted. I don't know. Well, tell them to fuck off. I definitely think road courses could have been left out.

The tail can't wag the dog all the time. I'll give the tail credit sometime, but not all the time. They're not going to like it when we don't have somebody where they can see the shoes. And because at choose, we might be able to see it at Sonoma. But like in Arroval, I feel like we'll be. But at the same point, it's flat. It's going to be in turn. If it's at the start finish line, we can't see it at Sonoma.

If it's in turn seven, it's super flat over there. I don't know that we can see it. Like, it's just. I don't know. I mean. And then they'll be complaining when it gets messed up or when you're back three rows. You didn't mean to be. Hey, guys, you got to choose.

One thing we don't need to do is run an extra lap to choose at a row course where it takes 47 minutes to run a caution lap. That's one thing they don't need to do. So they got to, I think, though, I have confidence he'll get the procedure right. I think what your point is, what spotter is going to be where and can they help them manage it? I think that if, you know, it's still so hard to say it. But like, maybe it's at the start, finish line and we choose there and going to go to one to go. And maybe the crew chief can see it each time is. I think we should just add a rule every week from here on for the rest of the year.

Just a new one for fun. Yeah, just, yeah, one rule. Hey, guys, here's this week's rule. I was listening to, I was jumping back and forth between your guys's radio. I heard, can you explain like the counting off like when you're coming to the truth? Because I heard like the magic number is nine. Like what is that? Like what does that mean?

Damn, I don't think mine was ever that high. It means. It means, maybe it was nine. It was nine. It just kind of means that that's our number of basically break even point. There's a lot of times with me and Bubba do. So if there's, if we're running 13th and our number would be six, that just means if six guys go one. way. That means six have gone the other way.

It's dead even. It's dead even. You pick lane you on. Yeah. You know. And then there's some tracks where that number gets skewed a little bit by if that, if the top rows, two positions better than the bottom row or whatnot, but that basically it's like a break even number of. To know which. You're probably

around an 18th if your number's nine. Then you have, if you're, if your numbers nine, you have lane choice. If you get nine on the bottom, you have lane choice of top or bottom. You're not going to back up a row. And if you're, you know, your numbers you just kind of figured out like that. Let's move on to reaction theater. You mean to tell me that Fox can't find somebody better than Danica Patrick to be the third person commentating?

I'm sorry, she spent a whole segment of the race talking like the track was in the old configuration. I am so thankful that they're getting Harvick next year because at least he will talk about it in the correct configuration. Plus, Mike Joyce saying the keyboard warrior comment, quite funny on that one. Have a good one, guys. I think there's a place in the sport for Danica for sure. I don't know exactly what it is or where it is or when it is, but I don't, I mean, she looked great. And there were times where I had it on mute and there were times when I didn't. And the things that I heard her say were totally fine.

Like, I mean, you're never going to get a broadcaster. I mean, here's my opinion on broadcasters. I've never tuned into a sporting event because of who was the broadcaster. Not one time in my life. But when I tune into a sporting event, there are some people's, voices I love. There are some people's voices I don't love. And there are some, some analysts that I like what they say, and there are some I don't. What I don't want the analyst to do is to try to sell me on something. I want you to tell me what's going on, paint the picture, give me the analytics,

give me the analysis. You don't have to sell me all the time on how great this is or how great this is going to be. But I mean, I grew up listening to Ned Jarrett, Benny Parsons, Buddy Baker. I mean, that's, Alan Beswick was my favorite play-by-play guy in my lifetime, and I'm, and still is, right? So the TV products are different. I mean, Fox and NBC try to do different things and be creative. They're competing with each other in some sense. And we're all, nobody's ever going to tune in and be like, man, that's the best broadcast and I've ever heard of my life. That's not what we watch for.

We watch for the entertainment value of the race. And I appreciate what everybody does in our sport. I mean, these people are still sacrificing their time to go up there and do it. Listen, Clint Boy is rich. He don't have to work. He's giving his time. Obviously, he's getting paid for it, but he's doing it because he still loves a sport and wants a spot here. Dale Jr., he's even richer than Clint Boyer.

I don't know if y'all know that. He's got a little bit. I mean, according to Google, he's real rich. Like rich not to where he could all give us a million dollars a piece, and he'd still be real, real rich. I don't think so. If so, T. T.J. would be first, and he ain't got his million yet. Or a boat.

I can't even get a... boat you can't get a third of a boat but but del junior's a guy he doesn't have to come do this he man i love when he tweets that he's watching this youtube race from 1982 and i'm like why you're del junior you could be wherever you want to be in the world doing whatever it's because he loves it that much and he wants to be a part of the sport still to this day that much he's already in hall of fame so i think we just got appreciate what we got and know that these guys are working their tails off and we're don't look again i don't i don't ever turn on a sporting event because of who the broadcaster is. Not one time.

This is becoming a thing, though, not just in our sport either in, like, football. Like, you watch a football game. Chris Collinsworth drives me bonkers. Yeah. But you got respect to what? That's an immediate mute for me. But he, you know, some people, I like listen to Tony Romo, but I have no, there's people that

hate listening to Tony Romo. He makes the game exciting for me. He explains things that's going on. He's like, look, when this coverage has happened and not, this is what they're going to look to do right here. Sure enough, there they go, like, he's really smart. So, A lot of football podcast, remember. Yeah, I know.

But people give him, like, they... I'm glad he's a good broadcaster because he sucked as a quarterback. It could have been worse. You know, I remember seeing Danica do, like, the... SRX stuff? The host, not the SRX stuff. Oh. Like, she was hosting and doing interviews, like, pre-race at the Indy 500.

And I thought she really excelled at that because she has a connection with these drivers. She's obviously very personable. And she's been in their position before, whether it's been in any car or, cup car you could have her kind of you know maybe not like you know obviously we michael's got the grid walk and he's all over the place with that um but you know have her sit down and talk to these guys before the race and they can relate on you know they could talk about what's kind of what they're looking for that day but i think she would excel in that role more so than maybe she is doing as a you know an analyst or a commentator in the booth i think no matter who you put it in there they're gonna

find whatever they can wrong and blast them about it that's what that's what it is nowadays so what's the point of penalizing ummerola an extra two lapse for a mechanical failure, not a loose nut. The rim and the rubber came off separately when he hit the wall. That doesn't seem like the same thing we've seen before with a negligent pit stop. I mean, what are you going to do? You're going to park a guy for a few weeks who blows an engine? You're going to dock points for a drop cylinder? What are you doing here? If he's got a loose nut, he's got bigger problems. It's a lug nut guy. It's not a nut. You just want to say it. I just want to point out the fact that it's his nut's not loose.

His lug goes. That was a very strange deal. It was really strange. It was strange for TV, too. What it looked like on TV? He's driving away from us. All of a sudden, the wheel shoots out of the right front. Yeah.

And the tire is nowhere to be found. And I'm like, where did the tire go? I couldn't find the tire. I was looking at, where is this tire? Well, they showed the tire on TV, and they were separated, and it was really weird. I don't know. But they said that they went back and watched video that saw the nut, the lug nut come off. and before the wheel.

And I don't, listen, I don't know anything about that. They have video that I'm sure we're not. Yeah, I mean, if the lug nut comes off first, it's definitely an issue. Yeah. So the penalty for that now is you sit for two laps. Two laps. And it's, I don't know if they do it every time like this. So we went from suspended crew cheese for a month.

It's a two lap penalty. To a two lap. But it's two laps. Do they do it every time coming to green? Because like this time it was, we're choosing this time, the 10 down pit road. I don't remember it being coming to the green. I know Martin got it. got it this earlier this year, but I don't remember the timing of the penalty.

Yeah, I don't. But, and maybe they were, maybe they were late this time because they were reviewing it. Did it caution come out right after Martins or something, though? I don't remember. Can I tell you my least favorite penalty? Come on all the penalties. Over the wall too soon. Nope.

My least favorite penalty because I feel like it is completely unfair, track to track is if you fell inspection too many times, and I know what you're going to say, you shouldn't fail inspection too many times. But if you fell inspection too many times and you have to do a pass-through penalty on the start of the race. Why do I say that? Because give me a pass through at Kota, I really don't care. Give me a pass through at Bristol. My day is done. That rule drives me completely bonkers because it's not the same every time. So what should it be? I don't know, but it ain't that. It ain't fair.

Yeah. Start a lap down everywhere. There are ways to make it fair and to fail too many times. And I realize what you guys are saying. The problem is if you move one thing, it'll make another thing get off in the tech process. And those guys have their hands full. And clearly, I'm not the guy. needs to be talking about tech. I'm not, I'm not an expert in that area, but that rule drives me bonkers. Yeah, I mean, it's hard to, hard to change it per track. I mean, like, leave it uniform. It's fine. I mean, you want to add another role then, basically. This is the one new rule we're going to add for this week since we, well, we've got to wait until next week. Too many roles. Because this week's the new rule about choose cones at roadcourses. There's a new rule this week

that I didn't even know about. What is it? Do you know that we have to pit and turn three this week? Where are we going? Atlanta. Pitt and turn three. Yeah, we did that before. Meaning go down on the yellow. We did that last year too. The commitment line is going to be like marginal.

I think it's because of the speeds. We did it last year too. So the commitment line was in turn three last year. You had to be on the apron in turn three because I remember talking about it. Is there an access road? Why am I not? Why can't? It was just the apron.

You got to use apron in three. I don't remember that at all. I remember talking about that last year. Me either. I don't remember that at all. I think it is new. Because they were talking about it on the broadcast. I'm telling you, we pulled off into three last year.

Well, Andrew's going to YouTube it. I'll double check. Maybe TJ was just a pioneer ahead of his time. Let's bet a hundred bucks that we didn't. He's probably the reason why there is the change because he did it last year. I bet you had him hundred bucks. Freddie would have took the bet just for fun. But I don't remember it either.

Anyway. Josh Barry, the real deal. Top 10. Way to go, Josh. A junior, you better get that. Cup series team fired up soon. That's not a good idea. What do you think?

What would it cost right now to fire up a cup team? He'd be, he would save $25 million if he gave us all a million each. That's how much it would cost. It would, I mean, it's going to be, it's probably, what's a charter cost right now? 20. At least?

That's before you buy anything. Yeah. Are you looking for Atlanta? Yeah, I'm going. back and looking it up to which one was uh Josh needed a good show man the first eight 400 to first race the first week out um he struggled you know and obviously had some issues there at the end but I mean when you've got your teammates literally running first second third and you're nowhere to be seen I don't care if it's your first race you're struggling and

it's not like you don't have experience right so um a new experience to this car I get it but show up yesterday he was outside of top 20 for a while slowly made gains and to freddie's point I don't think he ever lost the lap either no he didn't um He was right on the verge there when AJ and some of them guys lost theirs, but he was, or Justin Haley and him guys. But he was slowly getting better as the day goes on. And look, we know how good those Hennert-P crews are. I mean, when you're Hendrick driving, you're running 15th,

you hear the caution come out. You probably are like, heck yeah, this is a good time for me. I can get three or four spots here. Yeah, and Alan Gustafson did a really good job. We had actually just passed him for about, I don't know, 18th or 19th, before the Green Flag cycle started. And the nine was the first car down pit road. and he cycled back to where we never saw him again.

Here's where life gets hard for a guy like Josh Barry. Not hard, just tough decisions. You're at junior motorsports. You're in quality equipment. You're winning races. You're in the playoffs. You're contending to win a championship. You don't have any money, really, tied to your name.

And it's not that he's got to have family money. It's that he's got to have partners that are attached to him that love his brand, love what he's doing, and want to move him up to the Cup Series. otherwise if he makes that jump to the Cup Series, it's going to be in a C or D-level car. Do you really want to do that? I mean, that was the thing about Elliott's career toward the end before he retired.

He had opportunities to go getting cup cars. He didn't want to run 22nd to 28th. He wanted to stay in Exfinity and have a chance to win races, which he did. And I always supported him there. I mean, I think it's the right move because, and Josh said a different spot he's younger, but man, I don't know.

I mean, how much fun is, and Coil is always having a better year this year, but last year other than Atlanta, would you have rather been in Inspire Motorsports Cup car or Union Motorsports Exfinity car? And you see that, and it's a perfect example of that right now is John Heronimichick. He was in the front row cup car,

ran pretty well for that car. I thought he had a successful year. But not great. He was still a 20th place, 25th place car every week. Now he goes and jumps in a truck series, you know, contend for championships. He's, you know, in the Xfinity series now, winning races in the Gibbs car.

So, you know, I feel like that trajectory was way better for him and it might find him, you know, if a guy like Martin retires this year, who are they going to put in there but John Hunter? You know, like, you know, maybe you're going to take some money from somebody, but if the next best option at Toyota Pipeline would be probably John Hunter. So, you know, if you, you know, leave front row, end up going backwards a couple steps just to be five years later, you're in the 19 car. Like, that's the right thing to do. All right, who's putting money on it? Because I've got an answer. I think we've never done that before. Maybe we, I could have swore we did, but maybe we did.

It is, it is new. Okay. And so, but I just sent a tweet to the group chat that you guys can look at. Like the line, the commitment line is on the back straight away. So I think it's definitely different. I'm telling you, we had to be, we couldn't be on the racetrack. Everyone was diving off in turn three. Huh?

Look at the tweet. Look at the tweet I just sent you. Anthony Alfredo posted a picture. I'm on, I'm going to look at a green flag pit stop. Are you just watching an old race? No, I'm going to go bring it up on the. Yeah. That we never did that

That's where the commitment is Holy cow It's like Margeville Is it because of the speed? I think they just don't want us I think they're trying to prevent A huge wreck coming to pit road Because we're packed up

You don't want a pit under green In the old scenario If you do It could be a massive You literally can total every single car On the racetrack So this makes you slow down Down the back and get out of the way

Yeah this will be Which is good You're not peeling off off of four late because we see it at Daytona and Daytona's obviously got a lot more room off of four to, you know, Daytona Taladaiga. Oh, for sure, yeah. So now, you know, this is, I mean, it was a disaster last year.

Like we were pitting like at Daytona Taladaega, you like, you try to find a group to pit with. We were trying to find when the groups are coming so that we can get the away from them because you didn't want to be around the groups when they came last year. To leave an audio message whenever you'd like, just head to anchor.fm. slash door bumper clear and click the message icon. We'll keep playing the best ones. each week. It is time for AskDBC. Don't forget to send your questions on Twitter using hashtag AskDBC. Andrew will keep picking the best once. This worst one is from Jay. Are the teams still

facing a part shortage with this new car? I notice that there are still teams bringing only one and maybe two backup cars with them. I don't know that it's so much a part shortage as the limited practice. We don't have a we have 20 minutes of practice now. Most places we had 50 this week. So your time is kind of limited on whether you might not have a need for it. You might not need a backup car. I don't even know. I know we have cars.

West Coast is a little bit different, obviously. But like Daytona, we had, I think we had one car on property, one backup car on property, but there was two ready to go with the shop if needed. So you'd have to go back and get them. But it's, you know, with the car allotments, you don't really, you need cars at the shop, guys getting them cars ready for, you know, future races. So you don't want to have. You know, if each car's got, each team's got seven cars.

You've got four at the racetrack, you know, you don't want, you know, then there's not a lot of left back of the shop to work on. So I think it's more to do with, you know, just kind of lack of practice, less opportunity to get in trouble with a backup car. And then I think each organization has one, like I'm sure we have at least one there each week in case one guy goes down. And then Toyota itself probably has, I would say, three on the property at all times. So, you know, it is what it is.

But I don't think it's a, I don't think it's a, I don't think. it's directly related to a park shortage of anything. This next one is from Tyler. Do you think NASCAR would benefit from multiple tire compounds like F1 to help vary the strategies on a day like Phoenix with multiple long green flag runs? What do you guys think? Oh man, I think that's a, I just, I don't think so. No, I think that we saw it.

There was an all-star race. They gave us like a super soft compound. Yeah. They just saved that one for the end. We have too many pit stops. Yeah. Formula one you stop like once, maybe twice. Yeah.

And it's just everybody would do the same thing. You know, basically, like everybody's going to science it out. Maybe the first race, some guy might pull a fast one. But everybody will have it figured out by then where, you know, you'll give up a little bit. I don't think they can make enough tires, though. I mean, how do you make that many different compound tires? I'll tell you how we have a tire war again. Don't even get a start on that again.

Bring Hoosier back. Yeah. Old school, nostalgia. Okay. If you wanted to do something, that's what would change something. because they would they would be trying to beat each other. You know what I mean? That'd be a good thing.

If Tire compounds, if Goodyear's making all tire compounds, there's no competition, there's no reason for a tire to be better than the other. But if you've got a, if you've got Hoosier trying to come in and get Joe Gibbs Racing to sign up with them, they're going to give you, well, who was it? Was it Bodine? Yeah. I feel like it was. It was.

And his car hauled ass. Now he had tire troubles pretty often. He hit hard sometimes. But he hauled ass when he was on them tires. So, I mean, it would be interesting to see it. It's never going to happen. Good Year's selling a million dollars plus of tires a weekend. They ain't giving that up.

They're going to keep paying NASCAR to have the exclusive, but that sure would be fun. It would be. We have a third asked-DBC question, and this was probably the most asked that I saw in social media. They want to know what your guys' thoughts are on. Denny Hamlin versus Ross Chess Day in the last life. Denny's great. What do you mean? Move on.

Take us through what happened there. I mean, I... Wow, that's pretty obvious What I saw happen, but I mean I saw, late race restart I looked up and I saw, we were racing, so we were bottom of like 17 in the middle of one and two

and I saw the 11 and the one on the fence and then I saw the 11 trying to wreck the one down the entire back straightaway and I just assumed, oh shit, here they go again. Ross must have got on his door or something and caused that wreck and that's why Danny's pissed off.

And then I got on the airplane and I've seen some of the replays that were being shown. And it appeared to me like Denny just kind of ran Ross into the fence and then proceeded to run in the back of them three or four times down the backstretch trying to wreck him. So I don't know if, I don't know if something happened before that or if this is dates back to last year. Or, you know, it's just, I mean, I don't think it was intentional.

Looked a little bit intentional. But he just literally, I was like, he must have got on his door. There's a really good replay from Harvick's in car. Oh, yeah. Them going in the corner, and Ross really couldn't be any higher on the racetrack. Danny just kind of squeezes him in the fence. He went up and got him. Well, you said, TJ said that Ross said, I ain't going to do nothing.

Yeah, but I mean, that's still like, they were both, like, Danny was going to have a good. If that was a retaliation, if that was intentional, that was not, Danny, you are great. Please keep signing my paychecks, but that did not work. Did anything happen before that point, though? Not that I saw. I don't think so. Not that I saw. I mean, last year.

I mean, besides that. It's just like, if you're going to, if you're going to do that, like, then he was going to run top five to seven, I think. He's going to be single digits. Single digits, probably. And then you ended up, I think, 20 something because of that. Yeah, that definitely won intentional. I'd be curious.

The actions detrimental is recording right now. So I'd be curious to see what he saw. You should text and make sure you talk about that. Yeah. Oh, he'll talk. Yeah. Yeah. FaceTime, man.

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That's where you're going to leave this off at? Yeah, that's what I'm going to do. That's a tease. I know. That's the first time I remember we called a tease. Well, this is a great segue into what an idiot. What an idiot. Freddie, who you got?

Let's these guys go first. I got a list. Oh, Joy. Brett. What an idiot. It's the guy that threw the fire extinguisher at that late model car after he ran all the way across a racetrack and could have gotten run over. That guy is, he may win, what an idiot for the year. You don't run across a racetrack.

Who was it? Was it Boris? I don't know. It wasn't like Boris Scar. I think so. Yeah. The Archer race was very entertaining. Oh, God.

I'm glad it did spot it. Is it over it? Yeah. Oh, my. It was the longest. I mean, you're spot an ARCA? No, I didn't. I was watching it, but I haven't almost turned it off because it was so long.

Josh Williams, we were out on, that was Friday night, right? Yeah. We're out, right? I'm at a bar or dinner. So Josh was like watching a restart. They all wreck on a restart or something. Oh, yeah. They all wrecked every lap week.

So then, I don't know. It was, we had moved on to like a different bar or something. And I had said somebody, I was like, who, this is an hour and a half, two hours later, I felt like. I was like, who won the Arca race earlier? They're like, hold on, there's a green white checker getting ready to happen. I was like, are you I'm still going? Dude.

So a 500 lapper? It was forever. But so was Daytona. I feel like every Arker race these days. I got to go to the, the, um, was it 25? Oh, yeah,

that's just, yeah. Yeah, so they're having a pretty good race to lead. This guy and this kid, the 25 comes in there and just, I mean, KOs all the leaders.

Is that the one who wrecked Jesse? Yeah, he got Jack, and Jack Wood was driving. He was driving a great race. Jesse Love. They were having a great race. I mean,

it was fun to watch. And then. This bowling ball comes in there and just cleans them out. Worst than Freddie in the exfini race. Wow. It was terrible. Oh. Freddie, what's your list?

Here we go. A couple honorable mentions. First honorable mention, Mr. This is your favorite part. Mr. Rick Griffin for picking the same driver two weeks in a row in our TV. I heard I did that. Good job. Second honorable mention, Chris Lambert.

Is there a penalty for that? Chris Lambert left, got to the airport, got home last week, had no car keys. He went through a two-day ordeal of getting his car towed and his car keys were in his eyeglasses case. the whole time. Lambert had his keys the whole time. What an idiot. But then I saw

the one guy, this is still not the one of the week, but G.R. Smith, did you see this guy under yellow? The dirt race just destroyed his race. Oh my gosh, I did. Did you see that? Did you see that one? Like he literally just, they got racing on a restart and then they

kind of ran each other over. Well, the guy got a flat tire and he went into the other guy and then he, no, no, no, that wasn't that race. No, no, that was just, they just got a racing and then not only yellow came out, and the guy literally destroyed his race car just running into the back of the car. He didn't like the slide job.

The guy pulled on him because it was pretty close. And he literally went after him like four times. I mean, ram it, but I do have to, my one idiot of the week is whoever is running the Hickory Motor Speedway right now because they run,

if you're not familiar with Hickory Motor Speedway, one of my favorite short tracks, one of the oldest short tracks in the country, super deep legacy out there. they run twin 40s or twin 30 features I think it's twin 40s and they had an incident early in a race Landon Huffman was one that kind of brought it to my attention with his blog

if you want to go check him out on YouTube but he was one of the guys that crashed Doug Barnes another one there's a couple other guys I think they crashed early in the first race well they thrashed all race all night now to get whatever's going on between them to races to get their cars back together they get their car back together

and they get lined up on the grid and when they, the officials come to them and say, by the way, you guys can't gain any positions here because you did not run enough laps in the first race. They run the same tires, both races, I assume. You didn't run enough laps in the first race. So you're technically disqualified from this race because you didn't run 20 laps. You can start and park, basically, but you can't run the whole race. Now, the state of short track racing in this world right now, we need all the cars we can get. So when you start turning away guys, like, I don't understand.

And to Landon's point, like, this was not something, there's not a written rule about this. Yeah. This is not something that was covered in the driver's meeting. So, you know. And this guy still is, he, I'm going to keep going straight. So, like, Landon's point was there's no, there's no written rule about this. There's not brought up in the driver's meeting. And the first time these guys heard about it was in this scenario.

And so, like, I don't understand. Like, if that, I get it. I know why that's a rule because these guys. dominate the second race if they had three laps on their tires and everybody else had 40. But there has to be something in place where either stop running these twin races or you have to have tires there. I want to say it's their limited class there. Have to run old tires.

They put them in a trailer there and they go and pick, they get like a lottery system. And they get old used tires to run on their features every night to save money. So like just have them tires available for these guys to put on. But you can't send guys home because they got wrecked and happened to fix their car for the second race. So I don't know, I don't know whose idea that was, but there's something got to be addressed there because these guys are like Landon's running for points there, I assume. And, and, you know, you just took a race away from him essentially because he got wrecked in the first race early. You know, it's not, that wasn't really his fault, I would assume.

Maybe he, knowing Landon's for a good chance, he probably calls the wreck. But it's, you know, that whole deal there. I just don't, I hate that. I think it's pretty dumb if to turn away guys, especially guys that you, the Landon was the champion there last You're the guy that's supported your racetrack all year last year. And now the second week out, I think it is, you're telling him he can't run. I think that's pretty dumb. Shout out to the other Landon Huffman, Landon S. Huffman, Shane's boy. I think that was his second race over there, second or third race, and he won.

Nice. So that was a pretty good deal for him. Cool. Is that your list? I think I'm done. Please, dear God, let it be the end. It's like Tim Fido and that's fighter's meeting when Tim wouldn't stop ask questions. Freddy's board an idiot.

It was like 22 minutes long. Well, there's a bunch of them. He can be his own segment of what an idiot. What an idiot for being so long-winded. Let's move on to DBC picks, and I'm a little bitter about this one. But T.J. took home the win in a close battle in Phoenix. Larson finished fourth. My pick, Harvick, finished fifth.

And Freddy's pick, Briscoe, finished seventh. Brett, I think you should be DQed for, like, the next three races. I'll pick Ligano again if you want. I was going to say. You should just pick Ligano. This is a good strategy. Brett's saving picks here. Brett,

who would you like to pick for Atlanta? I'll take Corey Lejoy. Damn it. Technically speaking, I got to pick last one I got to be my pick. So did I. I don't care if y'all don't pick. Yeah, you should pick last. Freddie, go for it.

Brett's got Lejoy. No, he doesn't. Nope. Wait, are we, is that the rule? Yeah, he's like, what happened last year? Actually, Andrew. We got to pick last Because we got DQed

Yeah, I think if you're the new commissioner, Andrew You get to pick. If you're DQed, you pick last. Hold on, I want to be consistent. You guys are talking about consistent people, you know, in the booth. Just because he's new doesn't mean he gets to take it. I said, I said, Andrew is the commissioner. Andrew gets to pick.

Oh, Ben's saying you have to pick last, Brett. Ben's not the fucking commissioner, you are. Well, Andrew just made a decision. I just made the fucking call. What's your, what's your, Thank you. And you just leave himself out. Freddie, who are you taking?

I will take Ryan Priest. I mean, there's better you want to win, so. Yeah, I'll take Ryan Priest. Just to piss Brett off, I'm taking a little joy. That don't piss me off. Oh, okay. It baited you right into that. TJ, I was going to pick him anyways.

TJ. I'll take Prey. Josh Berry. What? Nothing. Is he in a race? Yes. What?

Well, they haven't announced it. Are the picks locked in? Does that mean TJ's just qualify for picking the same guy? Yeah. Oh, shit. Wait, wait, wait. Did you pick Priese? Wait, hold on.

Yeah. TJ just picked Priests. Why'd you tell him? Where's he at? TJ hasn't picked Priests before? No. I just picked them. Oh, never mind.

But listen, you can have them. Wait, who did you pick Priests? You can have Priests. Oh, yeah. Both of you guys picked Priese. You can have. I don't want them. I didn't even listen.

I got another track. All right. I mean, I'll pick somebody else. No, you can keep Priests. I'll, uh, I will switch. I'll switch to Justin Haley. Y'all got this all. I'm going to switch to Haley.

Andrew, you fired as a commissioner. You screwed it up last week. You're fired as, I can't believe it up. By picking the same person two weeks in the room. I didn't screw it up for you. All right. Anyways, heading to Atlanta this weekend, what can we expect? Andrew just told us it was about three years ago that the whole COVID thing hit.

Hard to forget that day. I will never forget that day. Oh my gosh. I'd like to forget that. We'd heard all the COVID buzz and we went to the racetrack thinking that we had a full weekend of racing going. Yeah, the cars were already there. The haulers were obviously already there. We went to Concord and we got on the airplane and we flew down. And when we landed, they said, hold on, don't go anywhere. There's a lot of talks going on as to what we're going to do for the

schedule. And they essentially came and said, we're going to qualify and race all in the same day on Sunday. And we're going to go home after that. So you guys unload, go to a hotel, hang out. We'll keep you updated. Get to the hotel, check in. literally don't even put my bag down yet and open it up and i get a message come back to the airplane we're going home to race is canceled and i was like are you kidding me like we're all already here the cars are hard or not all of us already there but the cars are there most some of us were there and we're not going to just go race at the racetrack like we can't we can't pull this off what official i think they there was word that an official or somebody had gotten to the track from

the truck series tech or something like that remember yeah yeah and did you get there no we were voted on the plane. I was sitting in Statesville on the plane. We were too. So I turned out, came home and took the next 10 weeks off. It was 10 weeks, right? Yeah.

It was a while. Yeah, it was a long time. We were the first sport back. And so, man, I'll never forget Atlanta being like that. But obviously, Atlanta Motor Speedway, 550 horsepower package. It'll look like a 2x2 plate race. I guess you call it a plate race. Old Scott, obviously not a plate race, but it's going to look like that.

Really tough to get more than too wide. Yeah. and but but I mean this is a good chance for some of these underdogs to come out and make a name for themselves it'll be interesting to see too listen this is this place wears fast and will that have an effect you know like we've saw Atlanta in years past like that was just one of our best tire wear racetracks we had it'd be cool if this place started wearing out it's going to start like it's at some point you're going to start seeing tire wear and it'd be harder to run side by side so it'd be interesting to see if that's this one or not you know obviously the package is going to lend itself to side by side so you're saying handling might come into play

It might. You know, it's eventually at Atlanta's going to. It's just a matter of when. This is also the anniversary of the replacements race that we had. Yeah. Which kicked off the Sim Racing World. Oh. The high racing race.

We were so bored. Kevin Hamlin called me. He's like, we should host a race. So we did. Well, if you're headed to Atlanta this weekend, be sure to say hi to us all. It'll be freezing and raining. Hopefully not. Hopefully not.

Shout out to Tyler Reddick for last week, getting, what, third? This week he'll be in the Xfinity 10G car, who's a partner of Dirty Mill Media. It felt like yesterday, man, Tyler didn't get the TV time he deserved. He ran a really good race. I'm surprised by that, and I mean, that's his first race. He's really put together this year. He obviously needs it. Typical Tyler, I thought he did a really good job, and I get on the plane, and he's mad because

his interview, he felt he was defeated. Last restart wasn't good. You could see his last restart. He gets gap pretty good. He was fourth. But, I mean, off of two, he's pushed. I don't know. He was never going to be able to go anywhere because he was always going to be boxed in.

So I don't know what he thought he could have done. Obviously, the restart could have been better. But even if the restart was better, I don't think anything would have really changed. So good job by him. He's an idiot. He's another one idiot, by the way, this week. Tim Dugger last week was a one idiot for me. Like, we got, there's a list.

Yeah. Well, I just tune in. It'll be fun. I'm excited about watching this race. It's, it's, Tim Dugger and Drew Parker are having a little, we're going to have a, what they have? They want to race each other. Oh.

In something real. Like in a real car? Oh, yeah. So, where we're going to do this at? When is this? It's in the, it's in the process. They might talk about it on, uh, both of these guys are country music singers. Yeah.

And we have a league together and those two. I think Drew Parker tours with Luke Combsome. He does. I know he co-wrote a couple songs with him. I think that's why Dugger's mad at him. Oh. So it's Dougers. ego is what's hurt. It's something. I mean, it's something going on there. It's been really,

really, really entertaining. So. Dougger just dropped the new music video last week. Yeah. Buy a bar, which I could buy anything about buying any bar. You do not need dough at a bar. No, not a, I think it's by the bar. You know, it's just, we buy the bar everywhere we go. It's like, Freddie, by the way, I think this was on the Dirty Mo Live, like over the off season. Your idea of a bar being named the gym is genius. I thought it was great. I don't know. Call it like the grocery store. of the gym. Yeah.

The bar, the gym, the, the, the gym and someplace else for my two favorite. Church. Yeah. Where are you going? Some place else. Sh. Or like a, like a meeting at work or something like that. My buddy's name is Dave.

Dogtreat Dave. No, this is a different Dave. And he wants to name a bar Saturdays. Well, what if somebody else one up next to him, Sunday? It'd be a problem. What's old dog tree Dave up to you? I don't know, man. I don't ever see him.

text every week from. He's running around watching kids play the cross, I think. We have officially lost control of this show, so we're going to close it out. We are? Thank you all for listening. What if we want to stay? Yeah, what if we want to stay? By all means, I'm leaving. Okay, see you later. So you want to go to Big Al Saturday night? Sunday night? Maybe. Can you make it? Come home from Spartanburg. Oh, no, you're gone. Oh, now you want to talk. You're not here anymore. Sorry. We're officially closing this show. Millbridge is back. If y'all are in Charlotte area.

Come out. Say hi. Do you want to say congratulations anybody before we leave? Chad's team won this weekend in the junior sprint, and shout-out to David Abidiccian. We miss her a lot at CBI, but she got a one. Oh, third win this weekend, so we're very proud of her. Cool. Have a great week.

Have fun, Atlanta, holla. See you. This is Dale Jr. This been a bad-assery. You're listening to Dirty Mode Radio. The Dell Jr. download. It was made by Bad Asherty. Dirty Mode Media.

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