Door Bumper Clear - 289. Dover: Short Term Memory Loss

Episode Date: May 2, 2023

After a rain-delayed Dover race, Brett Griffin, T.J. Majors and Casey Boat are back on Door Bumper Clear to break down the action from an eventful weekend at the Monster Mile. Ross Chastain’s ‘Don’t give a f— tour’ is the talk of the town in the NASCAR garage, and takes center stage in today’s discussion.  Plus, the group discusses Martin Truex Jr.’s return to victory lane and debates whether or not he will return for another season in 2024. In Spot On, Spot Off, the table breaks down what Christopher Bell describes as “gutless” engines used in the Cup Series rules package and reinforces that drivers must follow up their words with action. Finally, they talk about Denny Hamlin’s bracket challenge idea coming to life, why Brett burnt his hamburger buns, and which spotter has ducks roaming around their house. Want more DBC? Check out and subscribe to the new DBC YouTube channel! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Are you ready, Casey? I mean, I did my read fine, so you should probably check yourself. Before you wreck yourself. Wow. Chick-dy-check yourself before you're really getting into that, huh? You call me out. I call you out. Check.

Yeah, but I'm like one for 50. You're like 49 for 50. Are you kidding me? Okay, fine. The following is a production of Dirty Mode Media. No one. Long for. Clear.

Clear by two. Pretty shallow entry. Hey, everybody. I'm T.J. Majors. spotter the six cup car. We're going to do a segment. And the eight-examity car. You hear something, Brett.

Okay. Do you hear anything? No. Do you hear anything? No. Don't be a jerk. Brett Griffin, I did not spot this weekend. I did go to the drag races, though, in Charlotte, which was a lot of fun.

We'll get in that a little bit. Freddy is fan-boid out somewhere. He is. Likely asleep. Probably. Probably asleep. So we'll skip Freddie and go straight to the- Why is he asleep?

To the hottest host in podcast. podcast in the podcast world. Finally being nice to me. Thanks, guys. I thought you're talking about Skip. Hey guys, Casey Boat here. Director of marketing, babysitting. You know what it is.

I thought it was going to Andrew next. I'm kidding, Casey. I'm kidding. So strong. Well, for the 13th time in the history of NASCAR, brothers have swept a weekend with Ryan Truex winning the X-Finity Series race in Dover. on Saturday and then Martin on Sunday.

In the same car number, right? Yeah. That's awesome. I mean, Ryan did a, that car was phenomenal. I don't know, like watching it being at the track. You know how you can just see when a car is going to dominate? It was that weekend for that car. Oh, yeah.

Anywhere, he could run the top, the bottom, the middle. He probably could have ran to the Grotto Pizza place and back and still won that race. I love Grotto Pizza head over. But yeah, he was, uh, last week, Look like a bird without feathers. And this week, he dominates the race. So congrats to Ryan and for a dominating win. And it's cool to see those, that's, I believe that's like their home track too.

It is. So it's cool to see them guys. Get a win at the home track. And Martin, you know, obviously real happy to be back in Victory Land. But it's good for the family. That's a good racing family and big weekend for them. I don't think it's a secret that Joe Gibbs racing in the Xfinity series is always. fast. Oh, yeah. I mean, that's who you got to beat when you show up to the racetrack. Yeah,

JRM can bring, you know, some fast cars last year especially. Obviously, Colleg Racing could show up with some fast cars. But weekend and week out, you know who you have to beat as an organization. And it's Joe Gibbs Racing. Yeah, you circle car numbers on the entry blank every week or the entry list of who's going to be hard to beat. And you circle the 18, 19, and 20 if they're on that list, no matter what, really. Yeah. Yeah. True X has been trying for a long time. I was at Michael Walter racing when he was coming up through the ranks

and Bush North, Bush East and whatnot and they were really high on TrueX. He got there. He shared a car in the Xfinity series which was I think

maybe the Bush Series at the time and he shared it with Trevor Bain and obviously Trevor got hot. Trevor got the seat full time and Ryan has kind of been

bouncing around literally almost everywhere for 188 Xfinity races finally got his win good for him that many? One out of 188. Yeah. Wow. Yeah, not a very high win percentage. And again, like you said, he's been in some good situations. He's certainly been in some situations where he wasn't in competitive equipment. But at 31, 32 years old, here he is getting his first win. And look, if you look at Martin's career, you know, Martin Truex, obviously won a race yesterday at Doverick, like Casey said, I mean, his career didn't really get started until late either. You know, he was in the Cup series for a long time. Started in the Cup series.

in, hold on a minute, let me pull it up, 2004. And he didn't really get hot until 2016. If you look at his career, he had three wins at the end of 2015 total in his career after 10, 11 years in a Cup Series. So when you look at it, it got hot. Then you got real hot, but you look at Michael Walser Racing, which was one of my favorite places I ever worked. And they went out of business after the whole spin gate thing, right?

And Napa was a big part of that because Napa said, we're leaving the Cup Series, and we're going to go to the Xfinity Series for a little while. They ended up going to the Cup Series with Chase Elliott and a big opportunity for them. But when they left and errands had left and sponsors were leaving, and Clint was kind of sitting on an island going, man, what am I going to do by a career? And it looked like Martin was probably going to be really the guy that was out and the guy that got the worst opportunity. He went to Front Row Motorsports, which was housed in Colorado.

and I think at the time they had won one race with Regan Smith, a Southern 500. Yeah, Dalai Lincoln. If my memory serves me correct. And then Martin gets there in 2014, they don't win a race. In 2015, he wins one race. 2016, four races. The next year, eight races. Obviously a champion at this point.

He went from a guy that potentially was about to go out of business as a driver to a Hall of Fame career. And that was in 2016. So you look at his 20-year career, and it wasn't until the last. six years he's really been hot yeah and even there's a couple other things on there too like you know matt kenseth missing that block on denny at the end of the 500 martin was right there wasn't he was he was he right there um yeah so i mean martin's been on the verge of some really big wins and he's won some really big races obviously a champion and and uh he's um he's accomplished a lot 32 wins.

That's a lot. Dude, that's a whole hell of a lot of wins. And you look at last year, he's sitting there fourth in points. It doesn't make the freaking playoff. Yeah. Like, that's hard to believe. I mean, he could have been on a championship run then. Who knows, right?

But congrats to Martin. I would say, though, the biggest talk of the race yesterday, maybe of the year. Maybe going back to Martinsville last year. Maybe going back even further than that. You're talking about the DGAF. Don't give a F tour. Is rolling on, man. Ross Chastain is in the house.

And I'm going to pay this. This guy probably the biggest compliment he's ever been paid in his career. Uh-oh. When I look back at Dover and I say, what race car drivers were good at Dover, here's, here's who comes to mind. Tony Stewart, Matt Kenseth, Jimmy Johnson, Carl Edwards. Like, we're talking All-Star Hall of Fame, all champions except for Carl, obviously. Kyle Bush.

I mean, we're talking legends in this sport. We're good at Dover. And I'm talking about concrete Dover. I'm not talking about Asphalt Dover. Ross Chastain has entered this conversation. Ross Chastain is leading the points. Ross Chastain won a stage yesterday. Ross Chastain is arguably the most said word, name in our sport right now.

He is the new Kyle Busch. I don't, I think that's a stretch a little bit, but he's definitely, a lot of it's not because he is winning. There's a lot of scenarios that are, that he's creating that are, you know, but I mean, I guess it doesn't matter if they're talking about you or they're talking about you, whether you're winning a race or you're going 17 wide into turn one at Coda and causing a wreck. Or riding a wall of Ardonsville. Or riding a wall.

He always seems to find his way into the conversation, whether it's good, bad, or one of the, I mean, we're talking about him right now. He didn't even win. I try to get my son to do one thing in sports. And it's have a really, really, really bad short-term memory. Because if you screw up, it's hard to move forward if you focus on that. screw up. If you hit a bad golf shot and you carry that to the next hole, you're done. If you miss a putt, you have a bad drive. You're mentally screwed, right? And I try to teach podium all the time when you

swing, when you swing, worry about the next swing, not the last one. Ross Chastain can screw up and screw up somebody's day in a heartbeat and mentally focus forward as good as any driver I've ever seen. Well, he said sorry. He said sorry. He said all a few times already. But you can't, you can't coach how sorry he's not. I mean, the day, you know, the day Danny's car got back then, she said, sorry, that was it. I'm just telling you. I want my kid to have the same

short-term memory loss that Ross Chastain has in sports, because it's important to being, it's important to being great. Drivers go through this a lot every, you know, you'll have a run every race where your car is just off a little bit, and that's where it's a lot of times them drivers, they go off a cliff. And that's where you got to, you know,

Ross has a really good job of keeping in the game, even after something bad happens like that or, you know, a bad pit stop anything. He just, and that's huge. I mean, Jimmy Johnson used to go, Jimmy Johnson's probably one of the most mentally strong guys that I've ever met. For sure.

He used to pit road penalty, something spin out by himself. He spun out a lot by himself. But like 50 laps later, he's right back in the same spot where he was. It's, you know, guys can refocus like that. But Ross definitely does a good job of seeing the big pitcher at the end. best thing to happen to him and I mean I hate to say this about a guy that can't defend himself sitting here with us

but Chip Gannasi Racing had some amazing drivers. Do you agree with that? I mean you think? Amazing drivers. He had Larson. He had Martin Truex. He had some amazing drivers. He had Juan Montoya, Jamie McMurray. He had some amazing stock card right. He didn't really ever do shit with it. They didn't ever really win a lot of races.

They were never dominant. No, man. Look at what Ross Chastain is in a terrible contract in terms of the financial side of it. And he ends up driving that car. He inherited that ride because Chip couldn't find anybody else to do it at a decent price. Ross was his decent price guy. So Ross was under contract. He made Ross get in the cup car. And Ross is sitting there probably not in an ideal situation. He doesn't know that yet. No. But he's not in an eye. I mean, Chip, Chip Gannasi let him lose the minute DC solar, that whole DC solar thing blew up. Chip Gannessie didn't pick Ross Chastain up and put him in an

affinity car, he ended up going back to Johnny Davis, still under contract with Chip Ganassi while he was there and colleague as well. But long story short, the best thing to ever happen to Ross Jastain's Cup career and probably career ever is Justin Marks. If Justin doesn't come in and buy a track house, there's no way you can make me believe that Daniel Sorez, if he were at Chip Ganassie racing, would be as fast as he is and would have won a race. I ain't buying it. No, I mean, I don't think. So I think there's, I think they're good teammates with each other. I think Ross is a very valuable asset to that place. I think Daniel is too, in his own sense.

I mean, I think Ross is the more, you know, obviously a little bit better race can help get the cars better. But Daniel's pretty, he can be really competitive and fast too. He's fast. He's got some fast, you know, really good guys over there. You know, Travis Max over there. He's come a long way from where he was. And Justin and Ty and them give them the right pieces to go and be fast.

It's a two-car team, run that third car, Project 91, which is an awesome concept. You look at Track House at the racetrack. They've got LEDs behind their haulers. It looks like Best Buy. They've got a freaking DJ out there playing music. Like they have changed the culture, which brings me to a point, Casey. I went to the NHRA experience, like I said, four wides out here at Charlotte. Talk about a badass paddock in garage area. They blow ours away. Mac Tools had a hospitality right smack dab in the middle of the garage with one team they sponsor on one side with funny cars. and one team they sponsor on the other side with Top Fuel,

and their hospitality guests have the best view in all the motorsports I've ever seen from a garage perspective. It was unbelievable. Getting a walk around down there, everybody could walk the garage. Oh, really? Oh, yeah. You just got to stay out of the roped off areas? It holds 34,000 people, that particular drag strip does.

And as long as you do, what you just said, stay outside of the stanchions of the racetrack, of the haulers, you're fine. Yeah, but they wrote, they put them. No different than what they're doing in our cup garage now. 2311 has a stanchet off. You got a stanched off. Isn't for a cup garage such as like when we have practiced, a lot of times they're more active in the garage, I would say, right?

So there might be more restrictions. I mean, there probably needs to be more restrictions, I would say. I mean, the thing about us now is we only practice 50 minutes if we practice at all. So I think there's ways for us to have a cooler fan experience based on what I saw in NHRA. Best experience I've been to from a motorsports perspective. in my 47 years of living because you had access to see and do damn near everything you would want to see and do. And I mean, kids like Bodie, man, Slugger Labby was in there.

He, you know, former Cup crew chief. He's with Toyota Racing Development now. He showed Bodie and myself and majors around and not TJ majors. Good Lord. The majors, the family. I wasn't there. Kevin and Max. But no, man, it was really awesome.

It was my first NHR event. I'd never been in one. Well, you got to go. you got to go take your girls and I swear this is a great job when they promote it it makes me want to go so yeah jr todd was running around in there that was cool maybe we should just have a weekend where

the uh the garage area and somewhere with the track where there's like a tunnel to walk through just open it up rope your stuff off let the teams rope their areas off open it up Saturdays are a perfect day to do that yeah Sundays no because we do need some exclusivity for my partners that are paying a lot of money to feel like they're somewhere special.

But Saturday afternoon, Friday afternoon? They used to do that at a few tracks. I want to say maybe Charlotte was one of them where it would be more open. And it was definitely for the Xfinity guys because they were. So I got a question. Why don't we do like a, you know,

we have basically very limited practice now. How come there's not like an autograph session or something? They, what do you mean? You know what I mean? Like the fans can go to because, you know, you go to these. How many tracks have you been to back with a series like smaller. You go there and they have autograph sessions where you can go and you can get an autograph.

Like now if you go to the cup, if you were to go to a cup race next week and just as a fan, are you going to be able to get an autograph at all? It's going to be very difficult. You have to stand at the where are you going to stand? I personally, that's it. That's if you're going, are you saying you can even get inside? Outside of it. At Kansas, there's no chance to get an autograph unless you go to the midway and you go to a

display where your drivers like the Chevrolet. And they're coming out there. They're bringing a couple drivers out every couple hours. If you go to like the Westgate resorts last weekend, Jeff Burton went signed autographs for those guys. Well, they should cycle the drivers. When you look at an Atlanta Motor Speedway, there's that little tunnel, not tunnel, but there's just a little breezeway between the D.O. lot and the garage.

But a lot of drivers jump on golf carts and have their guys drop them off at the side gate, so they don't have to walk through there. So to your point, are you going to get an autograph if you're a fan with a general mission ticket or a grandstand ticket? No. But I mean, if you go to a basketball game or a football game, you get there early. You can go down there and watch the players come out, warm up, get near the tunnel. But when the game comes, you go to your seat or whatever, you know, like there's a opportunity. Exfittany Series does it.

They had one this past weekend. Yeah, I think, you know, you mean, you're bringing up a point that is a deep dive into a tunnel that we damn sure don't need to go. But here's the reality. When you look at NASCAR as a whole, when it was most popular, Winston, the cigarette brand, sprint the cell phone brand, which was formerly NextTill. Did a lot. They took. They took our sponsorship into the marketplace. And when I say that, I mean, we went to the Sprint campus in the middle of nowhere in Kansas and met thousands of their employees. We went to the Sprint store three times a year in market and met hundreds of race fans.

Sprint was spending a lot of money on marketing and promotions and taking NASCAR into the marketplace. There's nobody doing that right now. So who would we have to rely on to do that? I can't, I can't, I don't agree with that. You got to rely on, you got it. Xfinity, for example, they do a lot for the Xfinity series. Who's doing a lot for the Cup series since you don't agree with me?

We do more with the Cup Series than you realize. We're getting back to it. So if I don't realize, that's a problem. Pre-COVID, it was different. We are slowly getting back to it now that things are getting back to normal. But, I mean, we bring our drivers to retail stores. And we used to do a whole Philly takeover. We would bring drivers up.

And same for Cup drivers as well. I've been a Philly takeover. and it is awesome. I do know that an Xfinity Series driver going to a store is going to draw 80 to 100 people and a Cup Series driver is going to draw 500. We do Cup guys too. There's nobody taking our Cup Series sponsorship,

our Cup Series as a series to the marketplace. What does that mean? When I used to walk into a bar, I was at a bar in Myrtle Beach, South Carolina. Shocker. Easter weekend. 47 TVs in there.

You want to know how many was on the race? None. That's fair. So guess what? Somebody's got to go. in there and put that on TV on. Somebody's got to do promotions in these bars. It's not present right now.

You know what? I missed that Winston preview. That was so fun up in the Lawrence Joel Veteran Coliseum or whatever it was. Yeah, that was awesome. It was pretty fun. Back to Martin. I know a lot of the conversation last night after he won was around if he's coming back, what the plan is.

And obviously, coach's response was, you got to keep winning races. That's the biggest pitch we could possibly get to our sponsors. Do you envision him coming back now? next year and what will that take? I think if he's having fun, he comes back. Yeah, why wouldn't you? I met Martin Truex. The first time I ever met him was in the back of Dale Jr.'s white Tahoe that he had 20 years ago.

We drove to Daytona. We left at midnight and drove all night to get to Daytona for, it was the first year that they did the Dale Earnhardt Legacy Concert Series. They had Hootie and a Blowfish, Brooks and Dunn, Alabama. Like, it was freaking awesome. You didn't go with us that week. That's the only freaking weekend. You probably didn't ever have. I don't think of where I was.

Hovis and Josh and all them were with us. But that's the first weekend I met Martin, and I literally didn't know who he was. And by the time we got the Daytona, and they had talked about racing, you know, some on the way there when we weren't sleeping. I was like, man, this is a Bush North driver. And so he's really quiet, really laid back.

He's not going to tell you what the hell he's doing, Casey. I can promise you that until he's 100% knows. But I think if Martin Truex is having fun like he did yesterday, and like he did with the year he won a championship, I could see him coming back. Yeah, I agree. I mean, if you're having fun, you're not going to quit. I mean, he's probably a, probably decently paid, multi-champions still winning races. I'm probably not quitting. Now, what about the other brother? So part-time schedule, he capitalized on his opportunities,

got the win. Now it happens. I mean, I still think Ryan's going to have, he's still going to probably bring some funding at some point to go. I don't think anybody off this win is going to say, you know, that's my guy right now. I mean, if he goes and I don't know how many more races Ryan has left this year, but if he goes and wins two or three more, I definitely think it opens up doors at that point. More doors or some, I think. But, you know, he's going to have to, you know, keep winning.

It's just so competitive now. I mean, there's not many Ryan Priests of the world that come through, run a partial schedule, get a win, make a name for themselves, move on. There's not many Josh Perrys of the world that come through, Gained a lot of popularity, have a guy like Dell Jr., Junior Motorsports, Rick Hendrick, willing to fund, fund that project. And, man, Casey, I don't think Ryan Truex moves up without a major sponsor stepping up.

I know his dad has some connections and has made a lot of efforts to give Ryan opportunities to win. The question is, how much longer does he have? He's 31 or 32 years old. And when you look at Martin Truex, like, he didn't really get hot until he was that old. but here's Ryan with zero cup experience in terms of being competitive one win in the Xfinity series out of 188 starts and look you can you can race an Xfinity series full time and have a lot of fun and make a great living I mean there's a lot of guys doing that right now so I would I would say to Ryan Truex have your fun go after wins the cup series ain't all this made out to be man

it's a dog eat dog world and it ain't when you're not when you're not winning it's not fun you know I think the the scenario that Ryan would probably be best in is is getting a couple more wins this year and then getting an offer in that car, one of the sponsors saying, yeah, I would like to see him in one of them cars next year full time. Yeah.

And then get a full time deal in one of them. Then let's see you put a season together. And if you can be competitive all year, put a season together and run for the championship, then I think you move, then, I mean, you got to go and put a, you got to go and improve that, you know, and I think a couple more wins this year,

maybe that opens the door there to stick around there and run a full season. I can tell Elliot Sadler is a different guy now that he's not racing. He's happier. He's more happy go lucky. He's more jovial. I was texting with a cup driver last night that had a tough day. And I'm not going to say who it was, but he said, thanks, man, wish it didn't frustrate me so much. They carry that frustration all freaking week until they get back in the car for a lot of them, for a lot of these guys. I'm not saying all of them do it. Single digit number, 20s, teens, what are looking at? I'm not telling you. A lot of guys carry that frustration though. I've been around them Thursday morning.

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Damn. Where did he come from? First topic. In a test last week at New Hampshire, Christopher Bell said everything that we're doing is just a band-aid for the gutless engines that we have today. TJ.

This is quite the comment. Yeah, I was actually at that test. I mean, I think I'm advocate for more motor, less tire. We've been that way for a long time. Since we started this show. Yeah, these guys like watching them, even at Martinsville, I watch a guy downshift in the middle of the corner and just mat to throttle. And these are like, these are cup cars.

They're supposed to be a handful to drive. And I just don't, it's not a handful to drive in the right way. It's not, you know, you're just, you know, don't see a guy just manhandling a car. I mean, when these things snap, they snap. Like, yesterday, Kyle Busch got loose in front of us, and it was out of nowhere. Like, it wasn't like I was watching him drive it sideways. Brad said he was really loose one run, and I couldn't even see it. Normally, I can tell a Knicks-Fini race, when Josh says he was loose, I could see it. But I could not see it. And when these things snap, they snap. We bottomed out into three one time earlier in

the race, and the caution came out right after we did it. Dude, you shot so far up. hill. I thought we were done. I mean, Brad had an incredible save and, and, um, we rebounder from there. You broke rule number one. Traction? Never scare the shit out of the driver. That's what you did.

He, I don't, he never really said anything, but like, two or three spotters came down and he was like, holy cow, like Josh comes down to me. He was like, dude, Ryan just said Brad is probably just scared the crap out of himself. Um, it scared me watching it. And I was like, oh gosh, like three inside. Like, that's not good. But, um, yeah. I don't know. I think Christopher has a point that they don't, they're not really,

these cars used to be throttle control cars. Like, you used to have to, you know, how many times back in the day just say put an egg under the throttle, gas pedal. Dude, I don't, I didn't see any, if there were any eggs under the throttles of Martyrsville, they're smashed. They're matting them. Yeah, everything smashed. And I, I wish it was going back. And I think that's what Christopher means by this. There should be some throttle control in it. And, and, um, because if you have a lot of motor, then the, car is hard to get to work. How many horsepower does Christopher's favorite car to drive have? Probably 800 to 1,000. Yep. How many do we used to have?

800 to 1,000? We probably have the most expensive 550 horsepower motor in the world that we run at Daytona Talladega. I was at the drag strip where they had 11,000 plus horsepower. So when they had four wides out there with 44,000 horsepower, rumm one down to racetrack, it was exhilarating. One Piston has more horsepower than our entire motor, and that's because of the restrictions. My question is, and we won't ever know the answer to this, between the team owners, the OEMs, and the NASCAR, who has hell been against giving us more horsepower? I just think if you do it, there's a lot of other things that have to be looked at, because you can't just put 800 horsepower motor in these cars.

I mean, do you see the corner speeds now? Like, did you imagine how much faster? But they don't have to stop to make the corner now. either. That's what I'm saying. Like, there's other things that need to be looked at probably. They're just too gripped up. I mean, I think Denny had a comment months ago about just the, what do you say? There's too much tire. And honestly, one of the, one of the better races that I saw start was the trucks on rain tires. They were kind of, they were not on edge, but a controllable edge. You know what I mean? So it was kind of. I think people are ignorant to Denny's comment.

in terms of what they hear versus what he says. You have to realize he's speaking from two perspectives. One of them is a driver and an owner. The other one is an owner. So when you hear a guy like him talking, whether you like Denny Hamlin or don't like Denny Hamlin, you need to realize he wants the best for the driver and the owner. No different than if Brad makes the comments.

Brad is way more reserved. Brad is way more politically correct. I don't blame Brad for that. but I'm telling you, when a guy like Denny or a guy like Brad speaks, they have multiple interests in mind. Yeah, I agree. And so for Christopher Bell to come out on the Hills of Denny making some comments about more horsepower and Kevin Harvick tweeting to Doug Gates about making more horsepower,

I know engine builders want to make horsepower. Yeah. That's a given. Well, Kevin, Kevin obviously wants more horsepower in them too. I mean, when you look at the drivers and owners, some owners, Listen, there are owners out there that want to save money at all cost. That's why this new car came to be. And I'm not going to not rattle off what owners it was that was pushing and advocating for this car.

But they wanted to save money. That was the whole point of this car. Save us money. Save us money. Hell it ain't saving money yet. Now we have this low horsepower. So I'm all for what Bell said. Spot on for him having the balls to say it. And as we've said on here for five years, six years.

However, I don't know how old we are, TJ. You're old. We're getting old. And you just referenced a story from 20 years ago. Neither one of us can see. TJ just admitted he wears readers. I need readers. That's good.

I mean, yeah, because Dale Jr. I just said the word. What did I say, Andrew? What word was it? Can I said confidentiality. Confidentiality. It was confident. Confidently.

Yeah, but I saw confidentiality with these old eyes. But we're old. The show's old and we want more horsepower. Next topic. Partier Kligerman flips off Corey Hym following contact that ended Clearman's Day at Dover. Heim responded after the race, by saying I got no reason to make energy.

Whoa. I need these gloves. You need readers. Yep. I responded after the race by saying I got no reason to make enemies. It was just an accident on my part. Spot on, spot off. Brett.

I think any times drivers are flipping each other off, I'm spot on. Anytime they're talking about it, I'm spot on. Anytime somebody gets mad at anybody right now, I'm spot on. I'm here for the entertainment and this is part of it. and ran racing is a passionate sport and people don't realize the amount of hours that go into making a race car ready to race and when somebody messes up your day it's easy to be frustrated tj yeah i mean it's that's part of racing right there and this is the xfinity series i mean cori's learning this is he's what got three or four maybe not even exfinity starts and

dover and dover is not an easy track no that's why i made a comment about Ross, man. Like, you're fast in a hard place. Yeah, and it's, it's not easy. I honestly feel like the Exfini cars were more of a handful than the cup cars were there. Cup cars are so binded by the air when you're manipulated by the air so much. So they just, they said they have to stay a certain distance apart at certain parts of the exterior of the corner there.

Otherwise, you just lose the nose. And it's all timing. You got to have the right timing. And Xfinity, you can roll up there and get your left front out and roll up underneath somebody like we used to and you can see them wiggle and they get underneath them and stuff and it's fun and and Corey did that and when you get out to the wall at Dover where the walkover is there and turn it is it gets tight like I mean it when I say tight I don't mean the car not turning I mean the guy is up against the wall and the guy in the inside him is right up against him and you mess up by six inches

you're either the guy in the inside is hitting the inside wall bouncing off the other guy or the guy in the house is getting turned down there so speaking of that crossover bridge I've never been I've been across the crossover bridge, but I've never sat in those seats that exist at Dover in turn three. That's got to be some of the best seats in sports. I don't think I, I mean. You be scared? Yeah, a little bit probably. I ain't a lot to you.

I might be scared. If they start flipping? That's what I'm saying. I've seen people flip there. There has been a crash back there. And my guy was, I think the start of it was Matt Kenseth and like 0-4-ish, oh-five-ish. And he spun out. And like 25 seconds later, Donnie Neumberger came three.

through there and started flipping down the backstretch. So I saw Ligano flip there. Oh yeah, that's right. I forgot about Ligano. Yeah, that was a... But that's got to be the coolest seat in sports. Yeah, that's a good one. I mean, would you want to face turn three or down the backstretch?

I'd want to face down the backstretch to see what's coming and go ahead. Because there's usually some... Yeah, there's some good wrecks there. I don't like surprises. Yeah, that'd be a heck of a seat. Continuing on the topic of our favorite topic of the day, Brennan says Ross Chastain, quote, probably needs to get his butt-whooped after contact with the one that ended Pool's day.

Ross said after the race he owes Pool a big apology and a bit more. Spot on, spot off, TJ. I'm spot off. I mean, just unnecessary, really. It took out Larson too. I mean, it was right in front of us. I mean, we were right behind Larson and just unnecessary, that part of the race. And now, I mean, an apology doesn't give the guy's points.

back. Doesn't give the guy a race back in his career. It doesn't give him the car that's destroyed back. It doesn't give the five guys their car back. Or Brennan, who doesn't necessarily have a spot bride. Brennan lost that race. I'll tell you what else Brennan don't have. A good hairdresser. His hair looks horrible.

He looks like, remember when you used to put sun in on your hair as a kid? Yeah. Did you see Noah's hair? Are we going to talk about hair? I think that was a bet, though. Noah's hair. Holy cow. He looked Amish.

If he had one of them little beards And the little trousers on With the little buttons right here above his collarbone He'd have been like the perfect Amish kid That bully movie? Yeah I'm spot off for Brenna making this comment If you're gonna go whoops of my ass go well

That's what I was getting at Okay probably I mean if you're gonna do it Just that's He didn't say he needs to do it He said somebody needs to Well You're the one with the wrecked car Yeah

I mean there's a bunch of pants I noticed yesterday The amount of pansies on Twitter was at an all-time record high. And this is a pansy comment. Does that include you? I'm pretty sure I'm not a pansy. When you look at, here's the Vernon Pool thing. I'm spot off for him saying somebody needs to whoop his butt or he needs his buttwop.

I'm spot on for Daniel Trada. She is married to Robbie Benton. Robbie Benton is a GM kind of guy over at Rick Ware Racing. A guy I've known a long time. I have a ton of respect for it. And she was burning Ross to the ground on the Twitter. And I am spot on and I am here for it. Wow.

I didn't know. She's also friends with them too. And she sees the kind of work that they put in people who are fighting to get sponsorships for just even one race. I mean, this is their one race to be able to prove. Her Twitter was on fire. So Brennan's in a position where he has very limited opportunity. And he's just trying to go out there, have a solid, quiet day and maybe get another opportunity. And that might lead to something else.

Well, this just completely entered his opportunity. So I can. I'll say my lesson. Ross screwed up. and Ross took out Kyle Larson. Kyle Larson later impeded Ross's path at one point during the race to help Martin Truex going to win. I'm not saying that's why he won because obviously they had a restart pit strategy played out and all those other things. But at some point, T.J. has said it on here many times that Ross doesn't believe anybody is going to do anything to him.

And until they do, he's not going to stop. There was a clip of Tony Stewart talking about, you know, Del Senior, Rusty Wallace, Del Jared, like all those guys, if you messed with him, I saw Del Jarrett get wrecked by Ryan Newman at Bristol. I went down to Bob and I said, do he say anything? Bob said, nope. I said he's going to wreck the dog food out of this guy. Guess what happened when Ryan Newman come back around?

He wrecked the ever-living dog shit out of him. And guess what Ryan Newman won't do anymore? He won't wrecked Del Jarrett. Well, until somebody does that, because nobody's retaliated yet. I mean, technically Denny did, but it didn't really work out too well. That is lame. Denny wrecked himself as much as he wrecked Ross. That was a lame excuse of wrecking somebody.

Yeah, I agree. That was that he took himself out with it. So that wasn't. That's not an eye for an eye. No. I think Ross has five eyes and Denny has none as of right now, if we're keeping score. Freddie was here. He'd be, Denny's great.

Denny is great. I love Danny. Listen, I just think it's crazy how much Ross Chastain has entered the conversation is in this sport right now. There's nobody talked about more than he. is. Ross left with what he finished? P2. P2. Stage win. I mean, solid day for Ross. Can I ask a quick question? No. Yeah, I didn't think so. Do you think drivers are afraid to retaliate after Denny tried to and got penalized for it? I think they're afraid of Ross. I think they're afraid if they get him back, he's just going to get him again. Like, I don't, I think the don't kill a B. To where Andrew is real.

Like, I mean, why hasn't somebody paid him back? How many people are mad at him? Five, six. I think the whole garage is, yeah, I was going to say. I think there was a point when his own teammate was not good. Yet he's leading the points. He's contending to win races. I think that to your point, Andrew, there's a lot more stake if they were to routine. Is this guy the Newdale Earnhardt in terms of how he races?

Are people intimidated by Ross Chess St. Is that a fair question? Why aren't they doing anything back to it? I don't know that they're intimidated by him. What are they? I don't think he does it like, oh. I just want to wreck this person. I think he truly just wants to get to the front

and doesn't care who's in his way. So did Dale Earnhardt. He meant to rattle his cage. He said, look, man, the guys lead the points and contending for wins. I know people are going to get mad. You're going, Ross Chastain ain't Dale Earnhardt.

No, I know that. That train's shifting gears. I can tell you that. Just making a point. All right, let's move on. In the final pit stop of the race, Truex, Blaney, and Bell took two tires while Chastain, Kislauski, Byron and others took four.

Truex ultimately edged out Chastain. Spot-on, spot-off on that strategy. You got to be spot-on. He won the race, right? Yeah, Truex. We talked about it on here. Now, this is different, Casey, because there's only eight or nine cars on the lead lap at the time as caution flies.

So if you're running eighth or ninth, can you get two tires and get to the front? Well, it's hard being because those first two guys have such a big gap because they're so far gone with a lot of lap cars between them. When you're interpitt road, there is a time difference. Third place isn't right on second places, but when you look at the strategy, come out on the front row with this few laps to go. Seven, eight laps, you get a good restart.

The guy who gets the lead and gets that eight to ten car length advantage is probably going to win the race. I think this is the time where teams are looking at this and crew chiefs are looking at this and finally realizing we need to grow a pair, We need to make a big call here. There's so many crew chiefs on pit road that say, do what the leaders do. Coming to pit road.

How many times you heard that as a spotter? When you're running 7th, T.J. Yell is out, pits are open. Crew chief says, do what the leaders do. Sometimes that may be the right call, but sometimes you've got to do what's right. When I look at Ryan Newman's career, I would hate to know or love to know

how many races he won based solely on end of the race pit strategy. Because Matt Borland consistently put him in a position to win the race. what James Small did yesterday with a two-tire move. If Martin gets four tires, he comes out third or fourth, he's probably not winning that race, just like Ross did. Yeah, no, I agree. That's a great call, great move.

There was a few more laps left. There was seven to go when we took the green. That was a little more than I probably would have wanted to be comfortable with, but he still made it work, and it was fine. So I know there was a decent amount of wear yesterday, which was kind of cool to see the fall off, and you could see guys start to struggle. Well, it was still hard to pass.

A lot of guys cord and tires. Yeah, early on. It was a, I mean, challenging race, and that was the winning move. We were, we were P6, and there was eight cars on the lead lap, so we were going to take four to matter what, because there was so many lap cars between the leader, Truex, and us. By the time we, like, we literally, he was pulling out of his stall, and we just cleared him. Yeah, I saw it. So it didn't make sense for us to take two, because we were going to, we were going to come out

in the thick of it. So we just got four. where'd you finish? Oh, eighth. We got super tight. We restarted fifth. You guys had a good day yesterday, though. You ambush her.

Yeah, we had a little issue earlier there. We were leading, come out second on the pit stop, and then had a penalty for a tire that got away from the front there. That's part of it. The strong part to me is rebounding in that place. It's not easy. It's not easy to go to the back. I mean, when I say the back, we had to restart tail end of all the cars.

That's not easy. It's a recipe to get loud. Well, the next run was a green flag stop, too, and we ended up staying on the lead lap. We pitted a lap. We were on a lead lap, and we pitted. We made our stop. It came out behind Ross, passed him in the first two laps, and moved on. And then we drove all over to 12th.

So to drive from the mid-30s to 12th in a run is pretty solid. I mean, that's- Passing a lot of cars. Brad did a really good job, and Matt, and they had a really good car, and we were able to get back up there. And that's tough play with this car. It's hard to do. You don't pass that many cars a run. So the track widened out. It was able, if your car was good, you can move around.

I mean, still, if you moved up, sometimes we were a little too loose to even move up. So Brad had to literally look like Kevin Harvick and them rolling right around the line. And tough place, but definitely a good call. Spot on for their call there that got them to win. And I don't think you can ever spot off a call that wins. Spot on, spot off. Continuing on a similar topic, Larson says you can take it for whatever.

be it was a long frustrating day for me and another day where I get caught up in something that wasn't my fault. This comes after the period Larson held up Chastain on the track during his battle for the lead against Martin Turex Jr. And I know we talked a little bit about this, but I guess spot on spot off for what you think might be coming for Ross and I guess Larson's comments. T.J. I mean, it is a long day. There's two cars that had really long days yesterday and it was the five and the 14. 22. Yeah, Joey had a long.

Joey was actually until halfway point it started to go to that. But like the 14 was bad, like had a bat. The three. Yeah, the three. But that started in practice. Like obviously, yeah, the three had a long day too. So that's a, um, it's like a Bristol on steroids. To getting out of the way there is not easy either.

And, you know, everything closes up. It's like, um, everything closes up on the exit so tight. If you're a lap car, sometimes it's hard to. say out of the way and not not get caught up in something because they're trying to they're trying to get around you and it's hard so um definitely i can see kyle's frustration just kind of caught up into something he didn't the same thing the week before he gets caught up in a wreck that he didn't start but it's part of it just got i don't think anything's going to happen from it do you think stage one listen man as a fan stage one was exciting it was fun we had all the things we had all the elements that

you would potentially want to add over do you think we had all that because we didn't get to Do you think if we qualify and all the fast cars are in the front and the slow cars are in the back that Daniel Suarez is going to wreck. Oh, no, absolutely. I mean, the variety. And same thing with Xfinity. Xfinity was the same way. I mean, look at the results at a Talladega race. They're going to be mixed pretty big.

And you're going to have much more variety in that top 20, top 10 even. You're going to have much more variety up there than you would normally on a qualifying day for sure, like big time. I was a big fan of it. I was a big fan of no qualifying going into that race. To your point, Casey, Larson had a rough week. My man gets teaboned at Talladega where he's hosting a race, a high-paying dirt race. His teammate flips and injures his vertebrae, and he's out for three to four weeks. He gets it over and not of his making.

He's running beside a Brennan Pool, and pool gets wrecked and turns, slides up the racetrack, and Larson creams him. So Larson's probably very frustrated, especially with how fast his cars have been, because there's no doubt who the best car, who the best race car driver at Dover was in that field yesterday in my mind is Kyle Larson. Behind him probably is Martin Truex. If Matt Kenseth were still there, if Tony Stewart were still there, Jimmy Johnson, I don't know where Larson would rank, but they're not there anymore.

And McMurray and I had a conversation about this years ago and basically said, man, when some of these top guys go, how good is Kyle Larson going to be at Dover? So it's got to be one of the tracks that he circles. And these guys will tell you they go through the schedule and they circle certain tracks knowing I'm going to be a badass there. I'm going to have a chance to win there. I'm going to have a chance to dominate.

So I think any remarks that Larson makes are out of pure frustration and rightfully so. He's one of the best frustrated. He knew Ross screwed his day up and at the end of the race he tried to do the same to Ross. Hey, Dirty Moe listeners. This is Dillon Hart Jr. It's May and you know what that means. The Indianapolis 500 is just around the corner.

Thankfully, we have Speed Street, with Indy Car Racer Connor Daly and comedian Joey Molenaro. They're going to get us ready to go. Follow Speed Street so you never miss an episode and get ready for the greatest spectacle in racing, the Indianapolis 500. This is a perfect segue into the DBC A-Main where we chat about what's going on in the dirt world.

Brett, you said it. So Hendrick Wethersport's president, Jeff Andrews says the team will evaluate the races that drivers do outside of the Cup series. but says that drivers can get something different out of it than a racing simulator. And this comes after Alex Bowman becomes the second HMS driver this season to be out of the car due the injury. I know Stenhouse says that he stays more sharp racing sprint cars than the same with Larson

and that it won't make them stop racing having Bowman be out. What do you guys take from this and what would you do in this situation? I think as a driver, they have the most fun of their lives in those sprint cars, I think, and I've talked to guys that have driven sprint cars, stock cars, drag race cars, whatever. They love, they're addicted to those damn sprint cars and how fun they are to drive the high horsepower, the amount of y'all, the amount of car control you need. And at the end of the day, I feel like we can't wrap these guys in bubble wrap and keep them safe.

I mean, Kyle Larson said that he thinks Talladega is more dangerous than racing a sprint car. I don't know if that's true. I don't know where he would come up with that other than his own point. personal experience. Clearly, he knows how much danger he's in when he wrecks at Talladega and he sees his roll cage broken and potentially pointed at him. I mean, the fear in his voice about his cockpit having damage was real, you know, but at the same time as a fan, I see Talladega as super dangerous, right? I don't see Martinsville is super dangerous. I see every time they get in these sprint cars that's super dangerous. I wouldn't let my kid race one of those things, and he's 10 to save my

life because it looks freaking dangerous and that's what makes it amazing for people to go watch people other people drivers do something that they aren't brave enough to do i am not brave enough to get in one those spread cars and go around there at 130 miles an hour wide open yawed out with a bunch of other people with open wheels around me and flip down the racetrack that's what makes them amazing that's what makes them have hero cars that's what makes them self-sponsorship and and and that is the world that kyle larson came up in. It's not the world that Kevin Harvick come up in. And how many times have you seen Kevin Harvick's kid in one of those things? None, right? Larson's kids out there in one. Clint Boyer's kids out there in one. They came up in the dirt world and I think, and I came up loving

dirt racing, but not having the balls to do it. I can tell you that. Yeah, these guys love their dirt racing. And if they're happy doing it, I think you just got to let them do it. I mean, that's what, I mean, I, it's, you know, I mean, I enjoy watching it. So, I mean, I like, I like to know that there's sprint car racing coming up even this week. I mean, there's some races that I'm going to watch because I know these guys are going and they're going to make it, they're going to make it good. And they're good at it. You raced.

Can you do that? I would drive a sprint car. Yeah. Actually, my dad drove a sprint car when I was little. And I grew up around dirt tracks and I would, I wanted to write. That's what I wanted to do in the beginning. I wanted to race a sprint car. So you would do it right now.

I would go out there right now, yeah. With a bunch of people around you. Yeah, it probably wouldn't be exciting because I'd probably work my, way up to it, but I'm not going out there going wide open. I mean, if you'd like a shot, we have a few if you, if you're interested. Well, the midgets don't scare me like at all. You wouldn't get in a midget? I ain't getting a midget. I ain't getting nothing. I'm old fat now. I'm done. I think it'd be fun. I mean, I think I think the midgets would be fun. The only thing I don't

like is some of them tracks the midgets go to. They are flying and I mean. Ripping. And if they hook, they're not, they're going to continue to flip 12, 13 times in the air. There are times I even saw Carsonelage reckon. And I'm like, oh, gosh. Don't even get me started. But please be okay. And I don't know a lot of these open mill guys. I mean, Gavin Boshill, I'm working with him on some stuff. Like, oh, it tears my nerves up.

That's what makes it awesome. It is. I think what was really cool to you is Larson spent a lot of the season, unfortunately, not racing cup, and he was doing what he loves, running on dirt. I mean, getting to see that so close because he ran for our team and dominated, like, every time he got in the car. A lot of people are saying that helped him get the championship that very next year. And it truly, I see it because you see his mindset.

You see him living life. They got in their mother home and they just drove to different races. And that helped them get back to the proper mindset to really race because they love it rather than what they feeling like they have to do it. And I truly believe that helped him get that sponsorship that next year. I mean, Chase Haley likes to snowboard. I mean, that's what he likes to do. Yeah, I am all for letting these guys have a life because,

why would you sideline yourself for 20 years of your career and not have a life when at the end of the day you might get hurt at your job and you might not ever get to have a life. Yeah, and luckily NASCAR has a thing in place too that if something does happen, you know. As we should. Yeah, and it's great that those guys can come back. The pressure's on them to win, but there is an opportunity to not throw away your season. And normally that didn't happen back in the day either. I mean, if you take off for personal reasons, you shouldn't get a waiver.

If you take off for health reasons, you should always get a waiver. I don't care where your health reasons came from. If it's you caught the flu, if it's you caught COVID, if you broke your arm, your finger, your toe, I don't care. If you have a legitimate health concern, you should always get a waiver. Because in no other sport, would you penalize a team for a player having an injury or a health problem? And that should not be the case here either. If the crew chief gets hurt or if he has a whatever, it doesn't affect the standings. And that should be the case with the drivers.

NASCAR does that 100% perfect. Well, be sure to tune into DirtVision because there's a ton of racing this week. I know I'll be watching World of All right off. From Ohio at El Dora. So be sure to check that out on top of my favorite place, Milbridge. Can't miss it. Dirt Vision will have you all covered.

I watched a lot of Dirt Vision over the weekend. I bet you did. You had quite a lot of time on your name. Yeah, I mean, in the evenings, there was a lot of, There's a lot of good racing on this weekend. Let's move on the reaction theater. I find it hilarious that Denny Hamlin in his podcast obviously has NASCAR so frazzled that when he goes on his podcast and complains about the Green Flag passing at Talladega,

NASCAR Twitter posts that we had 308 passes for the lead during Green Flag at Talladega the most ever. Insulting even the NASCAR fan with an half an ounce of intelligence that knows that you track, lead changes at the line. Get off Twitter. Hurry up and fix a car. How about that? Was there really that many lead changes? That's what NASCAR said. So now we're counting it like every time the

bumpers do this? Yeah. So during the Green Flag stops at Martinsville, obviously a lot of passing passing with quotes around it took place, okay, which means positions changed. They weren't actual passes on the racetrack. So people were complaining about how

hard it is to pass. So a graphic was posted by NASCAR that said how many green flag passes occurred. So Denny engaged and basically called them liars and said, you can't count some of these things as passes that you're counting as passes. So he and Mike Ford had quite the exchange on Twitter. And at the end of the day, it's NASCAR's way of telling fans that you're wrong. We are getting passes. And so that's what this call was about.

I don't have a dog in the fight. I'm just telling you, I'm just giving you the context. Can one of these guys that get wrecked by Chastain grow some balls and annihilate his ass already? I am so fucking tired of seeing this guy do the same thing week in and week out and just being like, oh, I'm sorry. Oh, I didn't mean to do it.

Oh, I'm just a little baby that doesn't know how to drive on the fucking track. Somebody take him out. He's your points, leader. Yeah, I'm going to go ahead and say, he finished second. He's been competitive all year, and that's your points leader. So, I mean, you might want to reevaluate your statements there.

Great call, but I mean, you might want to reevaluate. He's kind of right at the beginning. Somebody's going to stand up, but who's it going to be? Who would he wreck that wouldn't put up with it? Kyle Bush, maybe? I don't know. I honestly, 15 years ago, I probably could have named 20 guys right away. I'm going to name you one guy he better not hit.

Who? Michael McDowell. If he touches Michael McDowell. Michael McDowell will flip him over the grand stand back stretch. You don't hit Michael McDowell. He's the modern-day Ricky Rudd. That's why you never see nobody hit Michael McAulner. Put him over a hood.

I mean. Well, again, you don't hit Michael McDowell of the racetrack. I don't know which guy is going to get out and confront Ross on pit road. And not when I, and I don't mean just have a conversation. How much you think Ross weighs? Buck 80. Now. Buck 70.

bucks seventy five bucks seventy. He's got to be muscle because he works out with that Josh Wise guy He's got a lot of beers So that's probably six pounds Yeah he's got that beard going

He scares people for some reason I mean What are they scared of Casey I think Ross is a nice guy Outside the car I don't know I like Ross I'm just pointing out stuff

I'm not saying anything bad about him I don't think that people are scared I think it's They're scared of like additional repercussions that might come from it. Why are we talking about it then? Just handle it. Wow.

But what is that going to do? I mean, then just take it. Don't say in the media. She's scared. S-K-E-R-E-D. Maybe Brennan should have got like, I'd like to thank Ross.

I really appreciate getting wrecked by him. I'm in the team, on the club now. I'm telling you right now. Brennan needs a son-in sponsorship. That's his go-to. I mean, I feel like we should just start thanking Ross when he wrecks us. know, just like thanking him.

I mean, there is a hashtag. Thank you, Ross. Thanks, Ross. You gave us a lot of things to talk about today, so thanks, Ross. You got wrecked by Ross. Thank you. We should have had Ross on today in Freddie's absence. Yeah.

But we have to make a deal. Ross has been on our show twice. He did one in studio. He did one at Live and over, ironically. We just have to make a deal with him that we can't ask him anything about wrecking people. What are we going to talk about, Ken? Watermelon farming Well he'll tell you all about that

It is pretty cool his story And his brother ran Dix Finney race? Yes Yeah that was cool And he spots too Sometimes Whatever

He's terrible on eye racing Hey Brett What's worse Ross Chastain Taking out a Rick Ware car Or that Rick Ware car Was actually passing Austin Dillon

For position Austin Dylan What the fuck It's funny We just said on the show How Slow the 3 was Like the three was flat out struggling from the word go. I was surprised by that.

Yeah. If you're a key partner, and listen, Chevrolet has three key partners. Those key partners are Hendrick Motorsports, Trackhouse, and Richard Childress Racing. If you're a key partner of an OEM, any key partner, and you're getting passed by Rick Ware racing, you're having a really bad day. Because Rick Ware is limited people, limited budget. but obviously drivers, I mean, Austin Dillon is presumably a lot better race car driver than Mr. Poole is. Yeah, I mean, I've got to give them a little bit of credit because they've been fairly, I mean, decent for their, you know, what their expectations. They've been, to me, kind of meeting their expectations a little bit with what they've been, you know, given and their, like their equipment and stuff too.

So, but yeah, it's the three, I mean, I don't know what the bad. The best thing to happen to Rickware Racing is, Tommy Baldwin, Robbie Benton, and now they've got two guys in the car that want to be good race car drivers. They don't have any other agenda. It's hard to be, listen, man, Kyle Petty,

I watched him. He won, I think, five cup races in his career. He won at places like Sabco Racing. And when he got to Petty Enterprises, man, it was so hard because he was in the middle of the family business. He was trying to be the CEO.

He was trying to, yeah, he's trying not to tear your dad's car up. You're trying to do a lot of things. There's a lot of back things going on in your brain. outside of just being a race car driver. So I think it's a good move for a lot of things Rick Wair's got going on. But you don't want to, I'm telling you right now, can you imagine what went through Austin?

Dill is mine if your spotter says clear behind the 15. Well, I'm not going to like Kyle wasn't, I know he had a little bit of damage there, but he wasn't as strong as, you know, just off a little bit that weekend. So, I mean, but Austin, I think, I'm going to guess the backup car wasn't. Kyle Busch had a chance to win station till he spit.

He's dominating the race. he's not happy with how his car's handling, but the one of, he has the lead, and he's leading the race up until they pit. Once they pit it at lap 20, he got a speeding penalty. Then they tried to flip some strategy and put him up there on old tires, like you said. He has some damage. He had tons of damage from the stories, right? He has some damage stuff, so. Yeah, the damage is huge there. Anyway, great, great observation. Austin Dillon will be back. I bet he outruns Require racing at Kansas. All right. Well, don't forget to leave us an audio message whenever. you would like, just head to anchor.fm.fm.

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That's cool, Mike. No. He takes the rapper in my boat. Same time. Let's move on to AskDBC. Use hashtag AskDBC each week to send us your questions, and we'll be sure to pick the best ones. This first one is from the officer nasty.

That's an interesting name. Besides the obvious weekly scheduled disruption, how does a Monday race affect a race team and how do teams manage it? TJ. Sounds like a call the duty name or something, doesn't it? That's not what I was thinking, but okay. Go for it.

I mean, thankfully they called the race. The weather was very rough. I mean, just rainy. it's just miserable when NASCAR was very proactive in calling the race. They wouldn't have got it in. Like there was the track,

there was never a dry enough time to get the track. Even when the radar was clear, it was still that stuff you couldn't see. So there's no way they could have got everything done. But they were very proactive. I think it, I think they called it early enough too

to help the fans that might have been on the way. You know what I mean? Like it was early enough to help alleviate some of that. So the question is, how does this affect the race team? man, I don't really think it affects the race team that much. You're kind of, we've been, we've done this, how many times you've been in a rain out? Oh, God, a ton.

It's just another day. You go back to the hotel. It's kind of annoying. But there are people at the shop that are also working on cars, too. So it's not like nobody's there. Yeah, I mean, the things are getting handled at the shop. Well, the hay is in a barn for Dover when you get a rain out on Sunday. But the hay is not in a bar in Kansas.

So the guys can go grab a couple beers, sit in a hotel lobby, engineers work on setups. Yeah, people go by the room and work. Yeah. I mean, it's just all is not lost just because it's rain out. And man, that's the first time we've had a race called that early in a very long time. And I thought props to NASCAR, props to the racetrack, props to Fox, because a lot of times I feel like TV has pressure to come on the air because they've sold all the ads. They know the most eyeballs are going to be on as soon as they go on air and obviously at the end of the race with checker flags. But props to them for not being greedy and being respectful to people's time and doing the right thing.

you had it like this yesterday. So Dover has won a year now? Yes. Yeah. So during the National Anthem, or after the National Anthem, I go back and I look down there, there is a line to get in still. I saw it. It was like a mile long.

It was forever long. So props saw the people that came back on Monday. I thought the crowd was very good for a Monday. Great for that area. I mean, it was a good show. I mean, and I think the race was hard, but the track widened out. The tires were a handful, and it was a good race, considering. It was a great race.

It was one of the best races I've seen it over in a long time. This next one is from John. There's only one question. Why does Brett Blacken his hamburger buns? Well, I might have left it in a toaster a little bit too long. So what I do with my buns is, I love butter. I love butter on my buns. Do you like butter on your buns?

Casey, do you like your buns buttered? Yes. Same. So I have the spray butter and I spray my buns. Okay. I get them nice and buttery and then I put them in a and I left them in the toaster too long and then I have black buns. And my friend Bernard Pollard, former NFL player, big NASCAR fan, he basically tweeted out making fun of my black buns. And I took offense to that because even though they were black, they still tasted good. You ate them? Hell yeah, ate them. Gosh, dude. We had a tenderloin, beef tenderloin burger from Omaha State. Two new buns. Well, I could have, but after I tasted my bun, I liked it.

And I'm a picky bun guy. I normally don't like anything black that's burnt buns. But yesterday, I let it go and I tried it, and it was amazing. What Bernard said, he just picked on you? He's picked on me. He didn't like cheese on my fries. I like cheese on my buns and butter on my buns and ketchup and mayonnaise. So whenever you grill, do you like, do you butter your buns out there too and put it on the grill or Blackstone or whatever?

Yeah. Have you been to Dario yet? I have not had a hot dog for Dario. You just got to go there. Maybe you'll go here. Maybe we should go today. They'll butter your buns. Yeah.

Before we move on, back on the Ross topic. Thanks, Ross. Again. Adam Stern just announced that UPS is sponsoring Ross at Darlington, doing a vintage UPS scheme. And I think it's pretty ironic that, you know, FedEx, UPS. Wow. I think pretty bold.

That's a great sponsor. Listen, man, I think track house is making a lot of smart moves in the sponsorship world. And I think they've got a lot of irons in the fire. And I think they're setting themselves up to be a two-car fully funded team for a long time. And then you can really go to work on that third car. What happens with the charters? Would pull up next to each other. They would have that could come back.

I mean, once again, man, we talk about it all the time. Like the Dale Jarrett, will you drive the truck ad campaign? Oh, I forgot about that. And UPS did so much to take us into the marketplace. Like I love sponsors who come in and activate in our space because the sky's the limit. That car became iconic. Like you knew it. Like, you go, you see it all over the place.

I mean, you went everywhere with Dale Jr. And we all know how famous Dale Jr. was. I went everywhere with Del Jarrett. And you couldn't go anywhere with that guy because of the damn commercials. It wasn't because he was a famous NASCAR driver. I mean, yes, if we were in the Pocono market and we went to eat around the racetrack, of course everybody's going to know him. But we'd be in the middle of nowhere at a golf outing or something.

And everybody knew him because of the drive of the truck. campaign. Yeah. I think Justin, what he's doing, when you think if you're taking the sponsorship side of it, I mean, he's the future. Like his team, what they're doing, that's what you'll see in the garage. Everyone do in a few years. UPS comes back. They're leading the points.

I mean... It's just pretty funny. I mean... It's 1999 all over again. If I were their partnership marketing team, I would be going towards UPS as well. I think UPS started in 2000. Yeah. No? 2001. I think quality care ended in 2000. and 2001 would have been the year that the motorcraft moved to Elliot Sadler with the Woodbrothers

and Dale Jarrett got the UPS deal. And at the time that UPS deal was the biggest sponsorship deal in the garage that Robert Yates landed. Big deal. Miss those days. What an idiot, man. Brett, based off of your Twitter feed yesterday, I think you might have a few and I'm afraid of what they might be. Well. First of all, how sober were.

you when you were tweeting some of the things that you said. I didn't drink a drop yesterday. That's a dumb question already. Actually, I had two beers. I had two beers in a backyard. That's more than a drop. Because we bought, well, McLell-Oltriek, ain't that strong. We bought ducks.

My daughters ordered ducks from California. Ducks, like real ducks? Ducks. Four ducks are in my living room. You had four ducks ship from California? Four ducks showed up at my house from California in a box. Apparently they can be born and go two days. And that's how long it's.

took them to get here and there's ducks. There's ducks in my fucking house. And they're going in the garage soon. I'm going to Buffalo, New York today. Did you know that? No, that's cool. Fuck of you. Yeah, somebody sent me Danielle Bennett, Deva Q on the Twitter.

She told me that I need to go to this place called Charlie Butcher. Charlie the Butcher. You ever been there? No, but sounds good. Yeah. So anyway, I'm going to onion farm up there. I like onions. Case you bad to your point, what an idiot.

It's everybody that's on Twitter at this point that sends me stupid a shit. They can all win, what an idiot. Now you know why I say off Twitter. I think it's funny. My favorite part is people think I'm upset when I'm tweeting them. I'm not. I'm laughing at how stupid they are. I cringe every time I go to your Twitter feed.

Please tell us what an idiot was this week. I just told you all the people on Twitter, they're idiots. Yeah. There's hundreds of them. DJ. I've got thousands of them block I know Man there's

I mean it's hard not to give it to the obvious one I mean but we'd how many I don't want to We're skyrocketing his credit here Thanks Ross Is that what you're saying? Is that the new saying? Thanks Ross I mean

Ross just wrecks Bradwick Somebody said NASCAR even tweeted or Fox put out a graphic Yeah thanks for it's a hashtag thanks Ross That's I mean Thanks Ross What an idiot because we could just do that, like,

at least he owned it. At least he owned it rather than being like, I don't know. No, you know what the saying should be would, what's it? Like, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I mean, Carl Edwards got away with it for years. I might not going to lie. Next argument, you might get him.

I'm just got Ross going to apologize for me. He's sorry. He didn't mean it. Yep. It's going to have Ross apologize for me. Ross, what are you doing later? When you get done it. My one idiot.

My one idiot is Andrew. I agree with that. Because if anybody understands. sports, you understand that when you play fantasy football, if you pick a guy, you pick a quarterback, and he starts the game. Once he started the game, if he gets hurt and the backup comes in, you get that quarterback's statistics, right? Which is basically what happened with Bowman. Bowman went out. Josh Barry's coming in and I had to get an opportunity to use Josh Barry. Because Andrew clearly, do you follow sports at all, Andrew?

Yeah. What sports do you follow? You're not going to like this answer, but I follow. Soccer. Yeah. That explains a fucking lot. Pickleball. What? Soccer. He follows soccer, which is why he doesn't.

So who? Which is why he doesn't understand how real sports works. Oh, so like European stuff. Yeah. So you love. What did you say? European. Yeah.

What? European. You can't say that on here. So you like, you're a big Ted Lasso fan then probably. Sure. Yeah. Yeah. So.

Is Ted Lasso European? He is now. But you just tied in European to Ted Lasso. I don't agree with the, I don't agree. with the idiot statement, Andrew, you are not an idiot. You're very smart. So I just want to say, Casey, when you picked, who was it? It was Josh Barry.

When he was in Chase's car. Casey didn't get Chase Elliott's. Josh Barry didn't get hurt. Josh Barry got pulled from the car because somebody was able to come back. We all knew that was a possibility. But if I had a chance to pick, then you would have a chance to pick. I didn't get a chance. So what's the problem here?

You got, you got a hose on your pick? Yeah. So, it's fine. It's clearly not. We have a soccer fan running a sports pool. this is the way this is going to go. Casey can still pick Josh Barry. So what do you want to do?

Go back and repel. No, it's over with now, TJ. He wanted to repick. Who were you going to? I mean, I didn't. That's just how the cards fall here, man. Not on an injury. Sucks to suck.

What do you want to. What an idiot. Yes. That's what you want to. What an idiot. We didn't want an idiot. Yeah, I mean. Let's move on the DVC picks.

TJ won, unfortunately, with Denny Hamlin. Good job, dude. Let's meet him Where are we doing? Kansas, man. Man, I sucks this I'm not going on the racetrack.

Oh, Bowman's won there before you should. Who are you picking, Brett? Did I finish last? Yeah. Oh, I didn't get to finish at all. Yep. Well, I don't know who I'm picking. I'm not picking yet.

I tell you who struggling as a manufacturer. Ford. Ford? Like, man. I mean, I remember so many times in NASCAR history, concessions are given. They need to give some concessions to somebody. I think I saw a stat where this.

I don't mean like the first time in 10 years that the RFK car has finished top 10 two weeks in a row. Wow. So been 10 years since consecutive weeks. And that's a big accomplishment for you guys. I mean, obviously you want to be doing it every week.

Especially at two really difficult tracks. We are one Martinsville tire bouncing down the front stretch pit stop away from being fifth, six in points right here. Because we were running fifth six in that race, Kasha comes out. We get pinned a lap down. We were running, we lost basically 20 points that day because of that.

tire. We'd be probably six in points, maybe fifth. So it's a pretty, Brad and this is just you know, Brad and Matt and all the engineers and everybody there working. I mean, this is all stuff that was started last year that's showing now. I mean, it takes a long time for the results to show. But the most honest I've ever seen Brad in an interview is he had a good finish, didn't win the race, and he got out and he was beat. I mean, you could tell he was physically whipped. And he said, we finish today the best we can finish. Everything went right and this is good as we can be right now, knowing that he wants to be winning the race and knowing they have work to do,

but he was, he literally admitted, and I don't see many people doing this in our sport, not publicly. This is as good as we could be on this day. And he was happy about it, but knew there was work to be done. Yeah, I mean,

Brad's at that shop every single day from morning till closing time. Wow. Every day. I mean, I think he, then he goes, to his other deal. I think he goes up there on Friday. But he runs the other business too. But he is at that shop,

meetings, making things happen. He knows every part of that car. He knows everything about him. He knows which direction. He's probably one of the most intelligent individuals I've ever met. Who is a director of competition over there right now? I think he's Jeremy Thompson. Okay. I don't know him. Yeah, Jeremy's

also a huge asset. He was at MB2 and then he ran Brad's truck stuff. And he's a very he's a huge asset as well. But yeah, they, nobody, nobody knows how hard Brad's working at this. And it's going to pay off.

Brad knows what he's doing. And obviously the results were, we got one season on our belts. And you can see, I mean, I think it's noticeable this year. You can definitely see the more speed in the cars. Yes. And Matt and the engineers and they're,

you know, using the info and getting better. So Martin Trevex Jr. I think it goes back to back. He's your pick. Who's Friday picked. Freddy picked Christopher Bell. That's a good one.

Casey. Toyota. Those are my top two. I'll take Bubba. Bubba. Bubba was fast here last year. This is where he right hooked Kyle Larson and was suspended the following race. It was at Kansas Speedway.

Fall? TJ is your pick. I hate it because he's probably going to call me and yell at me. You're going to jinx? Who are you going to jinx? Tyler Reddick. Oh, yeah. He's definitely got to be mad.

That was Freddie's backup. So that was all Toyo. Yep. We think it's going to be the Toyota show. Well, they won the last two. I'm not looking at manufacturers. I'm looking at a guy that I think I saw him kind of hanging out in the shadows there last week. And this is.

I wonder if Steve LaTardt on his podcast is going to talk about the Toyotas because we did. We just did an all Toyota lineup. Guess we'll find out. I think Bubba right hooked Larson at Vegas. It was Vegas. Was it? Yeah. They all look alike.

I'm wrong. Yeah, because they were going to fight on the front stretch, remember? Well, Bubba wanted to fight. Well, yeah, Kyle don't want anything to do with it. No. Well, Kyle's obviously not a fighter. What do you think Kyle weighs? 150.

Now, you think? Yeah, I guess he does. Maybe, I don't know. He's probably less than that. I'd say 137. Maybe like 170 once he fights him and gets in the sprint car. 140. 140 is over under.

Kansas. Should just ask him, text him? How much you weigh, man? Kansas is fun. Fun area. Fun town? They got a sock. Stadium right next door. They actually have some of the best chicken wings I've ever had.

My buddy, Dirty. Why don't you fix that today? You remember Dirty? Trove Clint's bus? Oh, yeah. He sent me to a chicken wing place downtown Kansas City, and they serve you the whole chicken wing. Artis? Yeah. They serve you the whole chicken wing, not just a flapper and a drumette separated. Oh, so you got to rip it apart. Yeah, that place was a bomb. Do you eat the other half? What other half? I'm just kidding. You're going to Buffalo today. Where am I supposed to go to eat wings? I mean, there's, Oh, man. I'll send you, I'll text you. If you're going to get some wings, I'll send you a, I'll send you. Tomorrow's the date I can get wings. I can't get wings tonight because I don't land until late.

So you got to just go where Josh Allen says to get the wings because that's like the guy, he's like the mayor of Buffalo. Is he streets after him now? Is he going to be there? You know, when they were reelecting, um, that people were, you know, you can do like, other or whatever. People were all putting Josh Allen on this. He probably would have won too. That's funny. So, yeah, I'll text you some links. And if you see Brad up, well, this, probably he'll be gone by the one of you stay leaving tonight i leave tonight i'm there tomorrow and i leave tomorrow all right well if you see bread up there tomorrow where are you going to be at an onion farm called the big oh the big oh are you bringing back some onions i love onions me too so bring some back

big oh big oh big oh onion farm sounds like no i'm stop i'm stopping right there i'm excited about it i think onions are the secret ingredient everything you eat yeah because they they're not people think onion and think oh they're spicy they make you cry no it's the opposite you're No, they're good. Yeah, they're good. I love onions. I agree. Yellow onions, white onions, sweet onions.

So what's the best one? Onions. Yeah, like, what's the best taste? I mean, I grew up eating Vidalia onions, which is a sweet onion. Casey, why did you make that face? I'm from South Carolina. It's a Georgia onion. Nothing.

No comment. I mean, a Videli onion. That's from, that's the town, right? Yeah, Vida, Georgia. Yeah, I mean, maybe we just need to have a competition one day. An onion eating competition? Yeah, let's cook some onions up. I'm like a good onion dip.

Oh, how do you do that? Well, it's got all kind of stuff in it. A lot of money. Can you deal with mayonnaise? Yeah. Okay. You like Ms. Dash? Oh, the salt?

Yeah. Yeah. Okay. I'll make you some onion dip. Well, this is a riveting topic. So. I'm going to eat this onion dip while I watch Dirt Vision. At Millbridge.

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How cool with that? They wouldn't give you the boat. No, they'd just. I'll take it. They'd pick another name. There are some interesting round one matchups for Kansas. Chase Elliott versus True X. True X.

Chase Elliott ain't back yet. I know he's back, but he ain't back yet. Yeah. Truex is an easy win there. Fill out your bracket. Right after the show, I'm signing up. What are the other matchups? Give me another one.

Other matchups. Suarez Briscoe. Oh, man. That's pretty good, too. That's a good matchup. Cendrick Stenhouse, Jr. That's another tough one. That's tough.

Austin Dillon versus Christopher Bell. Christopher Bell. Yeah. Play it up. What? That's a matchup? Yeah, because it's first and points. Versus.

Versus. Versus 30 second in points and so on. Yeah. But this week would have been interesting because I think Todd Gilland would have upset Joey Lugano and there would have been a few other upsets. You really don't know. There isn't like a sure answer to this either. Go fill your brackets out.

That's fun. Fans need to enjoy that. I might try it out. See, once again, Denny has a great idea. as an owner and a driver. I hear you, Fred. He's trying to get people engaged. Danny's great.

Well, I just think people will misunderstand his comments sometime. I think their feelings hurt. Oh, I know someone similar. What's said on podcast shouldn't hurt your feelings? Or Twitter? Did you hear that? Twitter has not hurt my feelings ever, I promise you. Damn.

She calls you out. She didn't call me out because I don't get a... I don't care. It's up. It's up. It's never upset me. On that note, really sorry to everyone who came out to Dover. No, no, no.

Hold up. Didn't you say you were going to find. Didn't you say you're going to fight a guy one time on Twitter? Probably would have. Well, you said it doesn't upset you. I don't mean right. I like to fight. What's hard to understand about that.

Really sorry to everyone who came out to Dover to see us live. Unfortunately, the weather one here. But hopefully we'll be doing it again, another track. And thank you for Dover for at least trying to make it happen. Yeah. Really cool. We met some awesome people this weekend. She got out of her car saying, Dover was so hard.

And we had homework last week. week and I want to pat myself on the back because we had to sign all our diecast cars that are going for selling racing usa.com. Get your stay if you haven't already. I have signed all of my cars and have them ready for Wendy to pick up unlike the other two host on this show. But in my defense, I actually left. Oh, here we go.

I left and she's here, so I got to really layer this on here. I left Monday night. I left here, went home, packed my bag, left Monday night. Didn't get back until late Wednesday night. left again. I was only home for one day, left Friday morning, and then got rained out, and I spent an extra great day and over. But Casey came home early.

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