Door Bumper Clear - 307. Kansas: Chase, You Can't Act Like Nothing Happened

Starting point is 00:00:00 Oh. Oh. That's an accident. There you go. I was wondering who my wood idiot was going to be this week, and there it is. I'm just going to leave it. That smells pretty good. It's a party foul.

Starting point is 00:00:12 Is that pomegranate? You're rocking? No, it's great. Yeah. Great rush. Giving me T.J. Anything else you have to say, T.J. Sure should get the show on the road here?

Starting point is 00:00:21 We should get it started. The following is a production of Dirty Mode Media. No one. No, no. Clear. Clear by two. You'll be really shallow entry. Door, bumper, clear.

Starting point is 00:00:38 Hey, everybody. I'm T.J. Major. Sparta the Sixth of the Sixth Cup car. I had the eight Xfinity car, and I'd truck race this weekend. And Exfini raced. Wow. Sixty one truck? Seventy-three Xfinity. My exfinity guy wears a bandana. He'll fight you and beat you. 73 Xfinity?

Starting point is 00:00:51 What? I didn't know there was a 73 Xfinity. Who drives that? No, I'm sorry. 73 Arca car. Okay. Archa car. Josh does not wear a bandana. I was going to say Barry that to wear a bandana. Times are tough.

Starting point is 00:01:02 in the old major house we got a tj major's house we got a spot arc of these days so it's just park all the time it's part we need a ip or air pot or walk man or what do we need sandwich meat something slick meat i hate it when they call that slick i do you know some slick meat i'm like no he's brett stop it sounds awful no it just sounds analogy you don't but it's i don't want to know i definitely would not google that depending that's not that's not something you're going to want to google god god only knows right which couch did you spot for this weekend I know which site would pop up if you Google sleek meat. I'm sorry for those who are about to Google it.

Starting point is 00:01:40 See, that is meant to be on a sandwich between two buns. Brett Griffin, spotter of Chandler Smith coming up here in a couple weeks, and my good friend Black Cloud sports guy, Mr. Freddie Craft beside of me. What a weekend. What a phenomenal fucking weekend I had. Spotter for Bubble Wallows, he finished 50th. Spotter for Chandler Smith, who finished 55th. spotter for Greg Van Allis who finished

Starting point is 00:02:03 73rd and then the Giants lost 40 to nothing last night. So it's a phenomenal weekend. Other than that is a great sports weekend. I had a lot of fun to see. Oh my God. Yeah. Hi, Casey. Hey, guys. Kesey Boat here. And let's not forget, this episode

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Starting point is 00:02:47 This is off to a really bad start. I will agree. I spilled my drink everywhere. I dumped your drink over the table. You're like, you're doing. My chair is going to break your in. So I guess this is the point where I should ask how everyone's weak was in tech. Fall out of my chair.

Starting point is 00:03:01 Hit my head on the table. table. I think it's time we sacrificed, like, what did they do in that movie? Chicken? Yeah. You're a live chicken. Sacrifice one of the producers over here. Freddie, I'm assuming.

Starting point is 00:03:11 I'm assuming you went to Hooters. I did go to Hooters. So apparently I have to be a Hooters with you for the Swartz. Yeah. I'm going to need you to sign up to go to, where are you coming to Bristol this week? Oh yeah, you are. And we're going to go to Hooters. Okay.

Starting point is 00:03:24 Yeah. The Hooters thing didn't work out so good without you. I did run into a lot. And when I say a lot of dirty Mo Media. fans at Hooters. And they called in. Yeah. I'll tell you who else ran a lot this weekend.

Starting point is 00:03:36 This idiot in front of us, Andrew, he did like 70 miles. I think his next race is 70 miles. 70.3s. What would you just run the other day? It was pretty short. It was like a half-mile swim, 13-mile bike, and a 5-K. And you were the first loser. Is that why you're labeled?

Starting point is 00:03:53 Yeah. Yeah, that's why I'm labeled. Do you know, do you not shower? Yeah. Shower? I shower. They've got some strong sharpy, dude. I look exactly the same way he looks.

Starting point is 00:04:01 after I've been into a club. I got marks all over. Yeah. Probably some other stuff that I don't want to know about. Daytona, I've got both hands covered usually because he's got a down his leg, his arm. Well, somebody who had quite a solid weekend locking himself into the next round of the playoffs, Tyler Reddick scored the win. Congrats on your team, Freddie, I guess you could say.

Starting point is 00:04:25 Maybe not so much the other half. But how was everything else otherwise? All right. So, Casey, I just Googled slick meat. Why? No. And I got to tell you what comes up. It says, any processed meat, this is from Urban Dictionary, any processed meat product that has a slimy cutter surface, typically used in describing meats that have been turned, formed, formed, or shaped, and then it stops reading.

Starting point is 00:04:50 But basically, it's sandwich meat. There's not a. Oh, yeah. So Google is a PG rating. There wasn't a second definition. Yeah. Yeah. I don't want to keep.

Starting point is 00:04:59 Oh, I tell you look. With your search history, I honestly would be concerned. Brett, hit images. I think it took pretty much sums up. Did I tell you the story about Megan's search? What? We were going to, so we go to a place called Lake Norman Tavern a lot. And the nickname for Lake Norman Tavern is Uncle Milfs.

Starting point is 00:05:20 You know, it's just the guy, I guess, I don't know what it comes from. But we always just call it milk. I know what it comes from. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, you could guess. But we go to, we always call it Milf. So then we were going to, we always call it Milf.

Starting point is 00:05:29 So then we were going to dinner one night. I said, we're going to go to Mills probably. And Meg's like, oh, me look up the menu. And guess what she typed in? Mills. And you can imagine what came back on Google. There was no menus to be found. I don't think.

Starting point is 00:05:44 It might have been some menus, but not for what she was looking for. And I was like, well, maybe it's not actually the name of the restaurant, but you'll be fine. But yeah, congrats to Tyler Reddick. Congrats to Nick Payne for finally getting an oval win after. he, go ahead, what are you going to say? You're waiting. Look, as a spotter, that's a real win. Yeah, yeah, for sure.

Starting point is 00:06:06 Not the road courses aren't wins, but they're not, it's not equivalent to what he got yesterday. Yeah, and especially the way they did it, you know. Maybe he'll stop spoting for those shows that he spots for now. I will say that was still, that was, uh, late, I mean, you had to get through that restart, but when you have one of the two fastest cars and your, I'm better tires and everybody in front of you, I mean, once he got clear of the 11, that was his only threat. Tyler was just going where the momentum took him. Yeah, I was spotting.

Starting point is 00:06:29 I, Bubba, we were obviously in the back, five, our own lap. So Bubba's like, I'm just going to lay back here about a half of straightaway, and you just go ahead and go MRN for me here. So I just called the last restart like it was MRN. And that was basically all. I said, Tyler's got this as long as he can get her, you know, he's got a big run down the front. But yeah, it was good for them.

Starting point is 00:06:46 Obviously, we had two really fast cars. Ours didn't make it to the end, but I guess it did, but not in the same condition that started. I watched almost every lap yesterday. And when I turned that race off, the first thing that came to mind, for me was, man, how much better of a race was this than anything we'll ever see at Phoenix? Oh. Because that was a phenomenal race yesterday. Now, I was not happy that so many people had tire problems, but I also don't know why they had

Starting point is 00:07:13 those tire problems. Was it self-inflicted? Was it good year? Was it debris? What was actually causing the problems? But outside of that, that was a really good race. Yeah, for sure. And like you said, at the end of the race there, you could see different strategies.

Starting point is 00:07:26 Like, if that's Phoenix and we had that lake. caution and them guys come out with the lead, you're not passing them. No. You know what I mean? Like whoever would have came off a pit road with the lead yesterday would have won the race. Maybe even who stayed out. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Like whoever can get out front, you're not passing them there.

Starting point is 00:07:42 This place, you know, you can run all over the place. You can build runs. You can use different lanes and build momentum. And you see a phenomenal finish like we saw yesterday. So that's my biggest issue with Phoenix as the championship race is it's so hard to pass that if you get a late caution, you know, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're determining your champion by the final pit stop essentially. And the worst part about Phoenix is though they sprayed one and two and everyone runs up and what do you do there? What do you do in that corner

Starting point is 00:08:12 if everyone's already running against the wall? At Kansas is the opposite. You can run the bottom for a couple laps then you move up but the bottom's also still usable in the middle. You know what I mean? You got them you got two three lanes in the middle and even a lane lower than the guy but and then you get to three and four at Phoenix and it's it's almost one lane. Reddick. Reddick. Redick ran three different lines, three consecutive corners. He ran the middle of one and two on the restart, the top of three and four, and then the bottom of one and two. So three different corners in a row, he ran three different lines at that place.

Starting point is 00:08:38 That means it's a great race track. Yeah, for sure. Going back to those tire issues, though, I mean, have you from a spotter's in the way? It's a little bit of both, in my opinion. Yeah, I think I've seen a picture of the 19 ran something over. And there was sign, like, you could see Martin's coming because he must have ran some over with the right rear. And I assume it was slowly leaking, and he got super tight. He was up front and he got super tight.

Starting point is 00:09:00 We almost ran him over. So you could tell he had some kind of issue. Then he went to three and the tire blew out. So you're assuming like tires leaking. He's probably shrinking the stagger in the back. He's getting super tight. Now that blows out. I don't know what happened to our tire.

Starting point is 00:09:12 It's just no warning for us. Just blew out and hit the fence. And the same way, I don't know what happened to pusher. It looked the same as I think. I think the ones that don't have the puncture are probably self-inflicted somehow. And that's just, I can't speak for it. I have no idea.

Starting point is 00:09:26 Obviously, I don't know what the, what are. A lot of times, you see that it's air pressure related you just get to yeah that's i mean you're also talking speed yeah when you find this air pressure that's and there's yeah i mean that's speed it's like camber in the right front that's the new thing now like air pressure there's camber now you know you can get to a certain point and it just won't take it so but i think it's a little bit of both so going back to martin's wreck i know there was a lot of he ran over something and oh you're talking about the aftermath yeah yeah the aftermath of it. And I know there's a lot of, I guess, drama, so to speak around whether the tow truck should have taken them to the garage, taking them to the, to pit road to fix the car. I think the rule from NASCAR standpoint was that if you can't move your car, you are dead. Yes. From my perspective, Martin hit the wall wrecked and then he tried to drive back and he couldn't. Like, I don't know if you saw that. He tried to drive it. He got to the apron. He was stuck.

Starting point is 00:10:24 he was done and it wasn't because there was four flat tires you can drive a car with flat tires if you're still moving i mean we've seen him come back maybe not with all four flat but if you hit the wall i mean his car was wrecked you could see the tires pointed in different directions and i guess the they can make the determination of you're out well yeah just yeah you're not going to pit road because you can't fix this on pit road you know like you if you're right front's pointing towards the grandstands and your nose is pointing towards the scoring pilot in the infield, you're... Like you automatically assume you're... Yeah, you're not...

Starting point is 00:10:58 That's not something that you just go down there and fix on pit road. Is that something that the team should be able to decide, then rather than NASCAR? So what do you do? You have an instant like, where were we? Whatever they did that with the two car, they took him to a stall. And then they had to, we had to ride around her caution for three, four laps because of this. They unhooked them, put them in his stall. Oh, it won't.

Starting point is 00:11:18 We can't fix it here. Take it to the garage. And now they got to tow them back. Hook them up again. and tow him to the garage. And you could tell this car was wrecked. So, and I know they didn't, they wanted to work out. But that's like, to me, that's towing him right to the garage.

Starting point is 00:11:33 Wouldn't you want it there anyway? I mean, if you're if your suspensions, but you've got to try to fix stuff like that. I mean, well, the problem is once you told them to garage, he's out of the race. Right. I guess. You know. And I don't know. I'd have to look up and see how the rules were.

Starting point is 00:11:47 Yeah, I'm not sure. You know, they, they have towed cars that can't move to pit road and put them in their pit box. Like Chase Elliott ran out of gas. tow them to the pit box, which obviously, you know, you can fix that. But I guess it's almost like, I understand where the team is frustrated because they probably could have at least tried. But, you're not, you're not, like, try as hard as you want. You're not. Yeah, I don't, and I don't know what was broke. If something, you know, if it's a tie rod or something, they could probably, I mean, we put, we fix a toe link on pit road in the time. Yeah, the toe links are, you know,

Starting point is 00:12:16 toe links are pretty standard. Oh, yeah. When they break them. They've got, like, you don't know, but like, I get their frustration, but I'd have to see how the wording is, is in the rule book of, you know, what constitutes going to pit road or what constitutes, you know, we're taking you to garage no matter what because we've seen them bring normal cars. If you can't drive it and it's not because of the tires, you're probably done. Yeah, I don't know. But who, who's to say that? Okay.

Starting point is 00:12:39 Yeah. This is you and you're at Bristol and you're on the cut line and you were 20 points up going in and now you need to see if you can get back out there and you don't get that right. I don't think that's okay. Yeah. I mean, I'm not saying it's maybe there needs to be. something where you can get it behind the wall and look at it. And if you can't fix it then, you know, I don't know if going to the garage means you're out. I mean, Austin Dillon spent how

Starting point is 00:13:01 long fixing his car yesterday after hitting the wall. And obviously he got it back there on his own, but nonetheless, it took extensive repairs. He lost seven laps. Yeah. What did he break? So in that position, in this situation for Martin, I just don't think it's fair that the determination was made outright. Your car's done for the day. Yeah. Because at one point, he was tied with Lugano near the end of the race for the cut line. Oh, that's a huge. And then obviously the guy, I know made a brilliant pit call to change that,

Starting point is 00:13:30 but, and I think now Harvick's like seven up on him or something, but give me as a competitor, as a crew chief, as a spotter, the right to get my car back and make a determination of whether or not my car can continue. Because isn't that why you have the clock? Yeah, and I mean, even in, like when, even when you're wrecked, you know, you wreck on the racetrack and you're still, you know, limping back to pit road or whatever,

Starting point is 00:13:52 you always go to the pit box. You know what I mean? Like there's, it's never like, you know, just take it straight to the garage. It's always, let me look at it.

Starting point is 00:13:58 All right, yeah, it's killed. Back it up. And, you know, even when you can drive it, you go to the pit box. So, you know, just,

Starting point is 00:14:04 I don't know. I see both sides of it because like we did wait a ridiculously amount of time for some of them guys at Daytona when they push a two into the wrong box and they dragged them down back

Starting point is 00:14:14 to his box. And then he couldn't fix us. We had to come back and get him out of his box. Yeah. Well, hold on. that could have all been fixed during the red flag. And then we wouldn't have people going everywhere

Starting point is 00:14:23 when they pulled the red flag out and all the crashed cars going to want hauling ass back. Like, I think the driver, the team, the sponsors deserve the right for the crew chief to make the call. This car's not raceable or the seven minute clock expires and you're out. Yeah. I think you tow it to the garage, right outside the garage and your clock starts.

Starting point is 00:14:43 You know what I mean? Because you can't put it on pit road right then and say your clock starts because in seven minutes, we're going to be back green, then you're going to throw the yellow again to get the car off pit road. So there has to be some sort of plan to do the... That's debatable.

Starting point is 00:14:54 You'll be back green in seven minutes. Wow. I mean, I'd say... We about ran our clock out fixing it, and we weren't... It was yellow the whole time, pretty much. Yeah. I think we had a minute left maybe,

Starting point is 00:15:07 and then we went out... It spends on bad the wreck is. Single car wreck, and he, I mean, you know what I mean? It's just, it's just like I agree with Brett that I, you know, it shouldn't be up to... Who's making that call? The tow truck driver? Is there an official?

Starting point is 00:15:20 Highly qualified. You know what I mean? Like, is there an official with the tow truck driver? That's, you know, I don't see officials out there. Well, I guess a chase truck guys. But, like, I don't know. Who's making that decision that we're taking this car to pit road? The regular season champ after two races in the first round is staring down at not making it to round two.

Starting point is 00:15:39 You know, people are like, well, maybe we need to just give the regular season champ a pass into, no. No. The reason why he's only seven out is because he got bonus. He would be more out. He'd be 20 out right now. From last week and this week? Yeah. If so, you know, you're seeing the benefit of the regular season championship.

Starting point is 00:15:57 How many are you out? I'm 19 out. Okay. And you were. I would be ahead of him. Exactly. You know, if he didn't have, if he didn't have, you know, all those bonus points. And, but, you know, and to, to Brett's point, I mean, what a call by Lugano.

Starting point is 00:16:09 He was on the cut line. We were going to be, if the race ended, if the race ended the way it was, you know, we got that caution with a couple to go. We were going to go into Bristol like 12 or 13 out behind Martin. Martin was going to be basically tied or two out. And now Joey goes up there and steals 10 spots essentially. Steels them. Pickle.

Starting point is 00:16:28 Yeah. I mean, and now that now he goes from on the cut line to 12 up. And now I'm 20 out. I'm almost going to basically, 19. I'm basically must win now. This is what I think Lugano's people realized that Harvick's people did not. I'm not racing anybody in this race other than me trying to get points.

Starting point is 00:16:47 I don't have to worry about Bubba Wallace. I don't have to worry about Martin Truex. We know how many points he's going to get. How many more points can I get if I try this and it works? They roll the dice. They go from being right at the cut line to now being the second guy above the cut line with a 10 point plus cushion versus what they had when that caution came out. I think that's the way after.

Starting point is 00:17:07 Major, major win for that team. I have to play the race like that. Maybe the difference in whether or not they make it or not. Maybe the difference in whether or not Harvick doesn't make it by not doing the same strategy. I mean, he ran 15th, around 15th all day long. He was about 18th-ish. And then they go up there and steal a top 5 out of it. And you know, you're not going to even, you're going to get a net gain.

Starting point is 00:17:27 There's on a green-white checker, you're going to come out of the pits in the top 5, 6, maybe, you know. Well, it turns out they came out in the top 3 or 4, I think. And, you know, now you know I'm not going to go all the way back to 18th in one lap, you know. And he almost took the lead. Yeah. And had he got the lead, I don't know that he's going to win the race, but he's going to run third. Yeah. because nobody on old tires are going to pass. Yeah, I agree. I think he still gets passed by maybe Jones and Reddick. Maybe, you know, I don't know, we'll see.

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Starting point is 00:19:46 I don't know about you guys. I cannot wait to hear more about what this event looks like. It's going to be something we've never done before because I think we're going to tell stories on each other. Oh, yeah. I've got a whole note. I've got a whole notes page. Like I think it just went from, this is not going to be a podcast live.

Starting point is 00:20:02 This is going to be a live show. And we're with. And all I'm going to tell you, DJs, you better get your your shit together for talking about Bell Jr. because he's getting his shit together. Well, I mean, do you really want me to get together or do you want to have a good time? Do I want to get fired or not get fired? What can he fire you from?

Starting point is 00:20:19 What can he fire you from these days? I'm curious. It's a good question. Mike Davis is a president of dirty-mo media. Yeah, but he could probably threaten Mike Davis. I'm just saying. I saw Mike has a boat and he doesn't. I'm going to foreshadow something. Yeah, that's how that works. I feel like, mm-hmm, might be more on Mike's side.

Starting point is 00:20:37 Yeah, my boat comes when you rent that house. I've got a feeling that Dale Jr. is going to be a good night. We'll get to it later, but I got a funny feeling that might be the case. He's doing a lot of things lately. That's exciting. Make sure you come see us in Vegas. It's going to be fun and nothing like we've ever done before. And I might get fired.

Starting point is 00:21:00 Watch TJ get fired. No. On his day off. Is it though? It'll be a Friday. No, actually. Oh, yeah. No, I truck.

Starting point is 00:21:09 race. You know, TJ, if there's an Arker race, Canaan race or something. No, it's not that bad. I don't do that many races. There's no truck race out there, isn't it? No. Good try. So I will get family. All right, spot on, spot off, Casey. Take us down. Spot on spot off. Spot off. Spot off. It was super fun yesterday to ride her out there. I am spot off. Damn. Where did he come from? First topic, John Hunter Nemechek announces he will drive for Legacy Mother Club in 2024. Spot on, spot off, Brett. Spot on for him.

Starting point is 00:21:51 When you look at what he's done with his career, to be in the Cup Series and a not so fast ride at the time, and to be willing to take a step back. And listen, it's hard for these guys to be willing to leave the Cup Series because the Cup Series is considered to be the hardest series in North America to compete in every single week. To leave there and go back to trucks, win races, move up to Xfinity. Five wins this year.

Starting point is 00:22:19 Having a stellar year, obviously the favorite in my mind to win the championship Xfinity Series championship. And look, Toyota's put their arms around this guy. They've embraced him without Toyota. I don't think he's in this position either. And I think it's a big get for that team, especially given what they've had going on really for the last two years. I look back at Ty Dillon, who struggled there.

Starting point is 00:22:40 I look back at Noah, who before his PR, nightmare. He was struggling. He was never a factor, right, Freddie? And so I think this is going to be a team on the up and up. The big question that hangs over everybody's head is how big of a Toyota involvement are they going to be? Are they going to get to be like a Joe Gibbs racing? And I think over time that answer is going to be yes. Yeah, I think, you know, you mentioned Noah. I think that I think this was happening whether or not that PR nightmare happened. I think that, you know, strictly on performance, John Hunter was going to replace Noah at the end of the year. You mentioned the Toyota Connection.

Starting point is 00:23:15 And this is big. Like I listened into Andrew's podcast Next Level. You know, he did an interview with John Hunter. And he talks about gambling on himself. And that's what he did. You know, he gambled on. And he did a pretty good job in the front row. I mean, the front row car, that was the 38, you know, whatever that was four or five years ago.

Starting point is 00:23:31 He did okay. But he was always just going to be, you know, you were going to be outperforming your equipment. You know, maybe now if he stuck it out where you see McDowell have speed now, maybe he would have been a little better. But, you know, he went back, one truck races, now winning Xenny races, bet on himself. and he went from being kind of a pay-to-play guy to now being sought after by, you know, Toyota's, you know, supporting him and now he's getting a better ride, in my opinion. And, and he's, you know, he's in a better position now because of gambling on himself. So spot on for him for sure and excited to see what he can do.

Starting point is 00:24:01 T.J. Yeah, I'm spot on for him as well. I think the path that he keeps taking keeps him in victory lane. So, and that keeps him getting in other, better rides, you know, and, you know, and, you know, he's like you said we he'd I thought he did great in that 38 cup car then near one Talladega and then he goes back wins racing the trucks now he's winning racing infinity and arguably the championship favorite right now so good for him it's an opportunity and the um you know Carson's been doing a pretty good job in that car as well so getting some more you know I don't know what the ins announced of it whether what their

Starting point is 00:24:38 support is going to be but if it gets I mean they don't I'm guessing they don't have more much of anything right now. So the way they're, you know, a little, even a little bit of sports, probably going to go a long way with them. So I think the future looks, you know, decently bright at legacy. Toyota's made a lot of moves in the last three years in the Cup series. They make a lot of moves every year. I mean, when you look at, though, they lost a 78 car, which was a championship caliber

Starting point is 00:25:06 team, rumored to be because Joe Gibbs Racing wanted an excessive amount of money to continue that alliance. That's because they were beating him. They were beating them. I'm just stating the fact that the word was that Joe Gibbs Racing wanted, you know, Barney and his team to pay a lot of money for the information in cars and the things they were already getting. And Barney said, you know what? I'm out.

Starting point is 00:25:26 I'm selling my charter. I'm going home. I think probably around that same time as one Toyota realized we've got all these young, talented drivers that we've got years of time behind, millions of dollars behind. How do we get them up to the Cup series if there's only four seats? And now look, there's three teams. And obviously 2311, they won yesterday. That's their second win of the year. They had both drivers in the playoffs.

Starting point is 00:25:51 As a very young team, that is crazy to even imagine that you can do that. So, yeah, I think this is just a big statement for how embedded Toyota is in the Cup Series and will continue to be. And I don't think they're done yet. I don't think Toyota's done yet. Now, Jimmy Johnson mentioned an interview that he still talks to Noah Gregson Weekly. any rumors as to where you think Noah will end up, if anything? I think the bigger thing there is, you know, Casey, like looking at this from our fan base's perspective,

Starting point is 00:26:22 man, they melted down against Legacy Motor Club and Jimmy Johnson when Noah got suspended. And I don't know what our fan base thought would happen. I don't know how they thought he wouldn't get suspended. And so for Jimmy to state publicly that, he still has a relationship with him, I think speaks highly of Jimmy as a person. And Noah, T.J., he needs that support. He needs Dell Jr. reaching out to him. He needs veterans that have been successful.

Starting point is 00:26:54 Because I'll tell you something Dale Jr. has always been big on. At least he was when I was talking to him a lot. He was always big on second chances. And he even started that race team. What do you name it? Chance to. Chance two motorsports with Teresa, right? So I think Noah deserves a second chance.

Starting point is 00:27:10 I'm not so much worried about Casey where he lands. Again, I think the Cup Series is way too big for the problems he has. I think it's going to take him a hot minute, as we've said before. Go winning something else. It'll open doors. And I hope Noah gets a chance to come back because he's a very talented race car driver. Yeah, we haven't seen or really heard much from Noah, obviously, since it happened, but I've talked to some people that are pretty close to him.

Starting point is 00:27:31 And he's doing everything he can. Jimmy's mentioned it. He's doing everything he can to getting reinstated. I know he's getting help from outside sources, you know, talking to the people he needs to be talking to. And I heard he's in a really good place right now. So, you know, just continue down that path. And when he comes back, that, you know, that's only going to make you that much better, you know, in a, you know, mental space when you can come back, you know, stronger than you were before. Yeah, I agree too.

Starting point is 00:27:52 I think, I think, no will come back and be mentally stronger, a better person. And I think he'll eventually, he will get in something either whether, probably an expedient car or something. and he'll end up getting back into the swing of things and winning races. Very big difference in what he's doing to come back versus what Kyle Larson did. Kyle Larson was racing. It felt like seven nights a week while he was indefinitely spent it by NASCAR, and he was winning a ton of races. Noah is sitting on the sidelines from the racing perspective.

Starting point is 00:28:23 He's not out here running big late model races that he certainly could go and be one hell of a will man at. So I think he's taking what he thinks is the right approach for him. Out of sight, out of mind, go get reinstated, get your. funding figured out, come back in the best scenario you can to try and win. Moving on, NASCAR reveals the modified valve stem found on Tyma Jeski's car, which was used to slowly bleed air from the tires during a run, resulting in a 75 point penalty, five playoff points, a four-raised crew chief suspension, and a $25,000 fine. Spot on, spot off, Freddie. spot on for NASCAR doing this and revealing the stuff you know it's kind of what we said it was on here

Starting point is 00:29:08 you kind of heard that rumor that getting that weekend after that race happened and listen it's nothing new these guys have been trying to bleed air out of tires forever you know it's a huge advantage when you can do it we used to see people drilling little holes in the wheels you know to bleed air and and what you're doing is just trying to get your you know you hear us say or if you listen on the radios you'll hear the crew chiefs early and around especially at short tracks you know all right, give it a chance for the tire pressure to come up. What happens is you're trying to get your tires to an optimum tire pressure, and you have to start them low to get to that pressure because they're going to build air as you run. So what this does is when you start building air, it gets to the pressure that you wanted to be,

Starting point is 00:29:46 and it bleeds off the air. So you maintain that optimal pressure for longer throughout the run. And, you know, it's not a surprise that he went out there and dominated at places like Richmond and IRP because this is, that's where you want this optimum air pressure. and, you know, no surprise it was the right rear tire. And you see this, if you go to any dirt race in the world right now, you know, you'll see they run very elaborate bleeders on their tires, you know, that they're, and it's legal, yeah.

Starting point is 00:30:12 You know, so, and it's illegal in a lot of different series. I think NASCAR is one of the only ones that, you know, you can't, or ARCA, I guess, too, but, you know, they're legal there. You can get a look at them. They'll show them to you, you know, Chad's got probably stacks of them somewhere. And then it's an elaborate system that they use to, to, to, you know, to, you know, maintain that optimal tire pressure. Yeah, I'm spot on for NASCAR stepping up here because this is, I don't think,

Starting point is 00:30:38 this is an old trick as well. So, but like, got, did, uh, he get two wins from that? Yeah. No, he didn't win Richmond. Yeah, he won, he won an IRAP. He ended up losing Richmond at the end. Yeah, but he, that was one more, he was dominating. Yeah, it was obvious.

Starting point is 00:30:55 Like, you could see the speed difference, but that's pretty big. I mean, obviously, it's slow that the truck has lost a lot of speed since then. So, I don't know, I don't think, I think they're, you know, Ty is going to be, he's a good driver and he's even a better short track driver as well. So if you're, you know, a guy like that, that's probably the place that you don't even need it because you go there with a guy that's already good at it. You know, that's not even sure. That's a place that I would want to do it the most.

Starting point is 00:31:26 So spot on for the penalty. Spot off for Ty. I like Ty and I think he's a good driver. Is this blade at cheating? Yes. I don't think it was put on there by an accident. Is this blatant cheating? Yeah.

Starting point is 00:31:43 Is there any bigger form of bladed cheating than this? I mean, there's some bigger forms, but this is blatant cheating. So Elliot Sadler, he tweeted, this has been around for decades. Hath Phil was doing it at one time. They should just make it legal. That way, teams can do it in a safe manner. There's too much speed and bleeding tires to not do it. We don't need to go faster.

Starting point is 00:32:06 I don't disagree with Elliot, but Elliot, that's not the case. This is against the rules. And what they did to invent an opportunity to do this is blade at cheating. I don't think this fine is stiff enough. I really don't because you're basically saying to all your competitors that you're trying to outrun every single week, you guys, I'm going to outrun you. You'll have no chance to beat me because I have something that you do not have.

Starting point is 00:32:35 And I'm all for playing in the gray. I'm all for being innovative. I know that's gotten harder around here. But to go out and blatantly cheat, dude, that's like me putting Vaseline on my golf club before I hit the ball to take my slice out if I'm playing in a PGA event. I'm glad you said that. I didn't know where you were going with that. Well, there's a lot of different ways to go with that.

Starting point is 00:32:56 But that particular way is to make my balls. It's to make the balls go straight down the fairway, okay? To take the spin off your balls. But in this particular situation, I think the crew chief should be indefinitely suspended because this is blatant cheating. How do we know that Ty Majesky doesn't have a net win in this penalty? He lost five playoff points and 75 points. How do we know that he didn't gain more points and more playoff points than that by cheating?

Starting point is 00:33:25 And other races, too. What is to stop you, you know, if it's just fast forward and it's hypothetical and, you know, you could say these all day. But what if this was Vegas? What if this, you know, a cup series and you're cheating in Vegas, you win the race, you know, you get, you know, whatever. Oh, you had bleeders on, but, you know, we find in the following week, you've just, you're in the final four now. There's no penalties don't matter. You know. What if this is Phoenix?

Starting point is 00:33:49 What if it's Phoenix? What if it's Phoenix and he's bleeding his tires? And he goes out and kicks everybody's ass and wins. What happens? The number one thing, Brand. Brandon is now leaving us to go to South Boston Speedway. He's sitting here. The number one thing we used to look for when we would watch a race go under red flag

Starting point is 00:34:03 is will anybody that's out here on this racetrack get a flat tire? Because if they do, they're probably bleeding their tires. There was a point where NASCAR would walk up and down pit road and randomly grab tires and go put them in a dunking booth to see obviously if air was coming out of the tires. I've seen the tool that we used to use. You grabbed it like it was brass knuckles. It had a little bitty pin that stuck out. out your middle hand and you pop the tire when you did it made a tiny hole in the sidewalk.

Starting point is 00:34:30 Boom, let the air out. Right. So my point is this is, oh, this is cheating. So the problem, here's the issue that you have, and it's, they didn't get caught at IRP where they won. They got caught the following week at Milwaukee. So, you know, you can, there's always that deniability, oh, this is, I just put this on there, you know.

Starting point is 00:34:50 So that's why they didn't, I mean, but, you know, so that's like Phoenix, like if they found it after Phoenix, you would just get disqualified. But like if you did it at Vegas and then we go to wherever the hell we race after Vegas and it's, and you've got something illegal, well, you were probably running it at Vegas, but now you're only going to do, you know, we're going to give you a five point. You just won your way into the final four. Are you sure you're going to find it at Phoenix? No, I'm just saying.

Starting point is 00:35:10 No, but I'm just saying like, everybody's cheating. Listen, everybody's cheating at Vegas. When we get the Phoenix, everybody's cheating, just for the record. But, you know, it just like, to your point, like there's no penalty. He had already won the race. he kept the win. So that locked him into the next round. He lost the points that he got from the win, the five bonus points.

Starting point is 00:35:30 But is that really enough? You've already transferred through. Yeah. So it's a weird deal. TJ, you mentioned that. And oh, by the way, Casey, one more thing. I'm not mad at Ty Majeski for this. No.

Starting point is 00:35:41 Because I don't know if Ty knew. I also know that as a race car driver, you want to go as fast as you can. So maybe if you do new, you're like, well, I can't. I mean, what do I do? Tell you not to do this. You're my boss. Ultimately, you're over the car. I'm over driving the car.

Starting point is 00:35:54 So I'm not mad at Ty Majesky here. I'm mad at whoever invented this thing, which, oh, by the way, it was brilliant. And whoever said, yes, put that on. You should be gone. TJ, earlier you mentioned that you could tell Ty's speed was a little bit higher than... Yeah. Did you not? You see the lot.

Starting point is 00:36:14 Right. So is that something that NASCAR just automatically checks? Oh, no, I'm sure. Because of that disrupting. He's going to be probably the random. We finished top three, or whatever it is in the truck, so they're going to check them. But this is like, this is blatant cheating. But like, so when the 19, obviously at Martinsville many years ago in the cup race,

Starting point is 00:36:36 they got a little right front fender damage. I mean, it was probably enough they could have kicked it out. But no, they brought this massive saw out there and they cut this huge square off right in front of the right front tire, which is keeping that right front tire cooler, which this is a say, it's, they're doing the same thing. They're keeping the air pressure down on the tire. But then isn't that cheating as well? No, you have damage on your car, so you're just clearing it in the fender. Fixing it.

Starting point is 00:36:59 You're fixing it. Which benefits it. Do you agree with Elliot that we should allow bleeders? No, I don't think we should allow bleaters. No, I think that I watched a video that Larry Mack did about bleeders and it's, you know, you worry about, and we saw yesterday people getting flats. You know, you worry about these high load places. If you've got a tire bleeding air and intentionally keeping the pressure down, you're going to see that more often. What if you put this tire on that has?

Starting point is 00:37:21 low air pressure and then we have a quick yellow and then that thing bleeds out more than that then that left rear is even lower than where it should be and we go back green and them guys are popping tires at a 200 mile out of the corner i don't i'm not smart enough to know if we should be allowed to run bleaters that's why i asked what y'all thought because i truly don't have an opinion i just know it's illegal and i know this guy did it and i know he should be kicked out that's it correct who should be kicked out whoever fucking did it and the crew chief he said i would kick the tire guy out and the crew chief out indefinitely this is no different than the jet fuel thing at Michael

Starting point is 00:37:54 Waltrip. Why would you kick the tire guy? He's just doing what he's told to do. Well, that tough... You have to have enough integrity. If he says... Okay, so he's going to get fired because he's not going to do it. Guess what happens if he says I'm not doing this. He don't get kicked out. He can go get another tire guy job. There's tons of tires. There's more jobs

Starting point is 00:38:10 in our sport right now and there's ever been. So I'm not buying. He can't say, I'm not doing that. I don't think. I don't think tire. And a truck series, a guy... To make $40 grand a year and put that freaking caps on tires, I'm going to say I'm not doing that. And that guy, I'm not saying... He might not ever get another job in the city.

Starting point is 00:38:23 Yeah, it's not as easy. Yeah, he's doing what he's told to do. If Dale Jr. walks in here and tells you to untie your shoes and walk 10 laps around the table, you're going to do it. I'm going to fuck off. Will you know? Should we find out in Vegas? New, what it is.

Starting point is 00:38:36 Should we find out in Vegas? Y'all have got a completely wrong perception of me if you think I'm going to untie my shoes and walk around the block because somebody told me to do it. I didn't say the block. I agree that we have a wrong perception of certain things. Next topic. Parker Gligerman grabs the Exfinity Playoff. spot over S.HR's Riley Herbst. Spot on, spot off, TJ. I'm spot on for, you know, the, the story there with the owner of the 48, Scott Borshett, I think. Big Michigan record.

Starting point is 00:39:05 Yeah, really the story of his summer, man, like there was, you know, a friend of ours went and worked with him Rocky and speaks, I don't know Scott at all, but he speaks highly of him. and so I'm really glad to see him back at the track and get a playoff berth here. And, man, it's just a good turnaround for him. And there was a while there that I guess he was pretty, you know, we all saw that wreck. We all saw that video of that wreck. And it was pretty bad. So, but, you know, Parker, Parker did drive a good race.

Starting point is 00:39:33 He ran in us twice. Perfect. Yeah, he ran it. Yeah, he ran perfect with centimeters. Just ask him. Yeah, you'd have to see the interview that. Did you see it? Okay.

Starting point is 00:39:46 But, you know, they did run a good race, put himself in a few spots that were very risky and probably shouldn't have. But, you know, good for them guys. And, you know, they've had some speed. This never could put all the race together. And they finally put one together there. So good for them. Yeah. I mean, I was, it's the polar opposite day there because, well, and listen, we doubted on this show that they could go out there and outrun the 98.

Starting point is 00:40:10 And listen, man, I mean, the 48 did exactly what he had to do. But this right from the drop of the green, the 48. took control of this deal because I was actually texting Brett. We had 47 cautions. It felt like in the first 10 laps. Longest race ever. And just on the choose alone, the 48, the flip the script. You know, I think the 98 out qualified him by seven or eight spots.

Starting point is 00:40:34 And by lap 15, they had completely flipped. And the 48 was eight spots in front of the 98. And that was just, you know, bad choosing, you know, or, you know, just getting in the wrong lane, whether it's bad choosing or not. Parker being way more aggressive on restarts, making up track position, and then he gets a position where he gets a couple more stage points than him in the first stage. The 98 was clearly much faster than the 48, clearly, but just could not execute.

Starting point is 00:41:00 You know, it's just he ran back to 10th, but every, seemed like every restart, he gave up a bunch of ground and then we'd try to close it back up. And then finally, he just, he ends up running into Parker, of all people, and getting right front flat. And then from that point on, basically, his day was ruined. but that was just Parker from the drop of the green putting a ton of pressure on the 98 to go out there and beat him

Starting point is 00:41:21 and they couldn't do it. I'm sitting here looking at something that I didn't know what it was that was laying in front of me, Andrew put it here. It's a DBC Christmas ornament. Okay. Merry fucking Christmas to Parker Klingerman.

Starting point is 00:41:33 Because Klingerman. He's been really close to winning races this year. I mean, he's been up front a lot of times, even this weekend. And this is the biggest win this team will get all year to make this playoff. They have zero chance. someone in the championship. Zero.

Starting point is 00:41:46 Flat out, I'll bet you whatever you. Well, I can't bet. It's zero percent chance to win a championship. But this is a huge win for a small team. When you beat teams like Stuart Haas Racing and Junior Motorsports into this playoff, that is a massive, massive win for a team that small. So hats off to him. Spot on for him.

Starting point is 00:42:04 Obviously, he works hard on Sundays on the Cupside trying to paint stories and deliver the broadcast for us on NBC. He's a really, really nice guy. And congrats to him and his team. well-deserved. Work really, really hard. Don't make mistakes. You can make it to the round two.

Starting point is 00:42:19 You'll stop there, but you can make it to the round of eight, especially if guys have problems. With no wrecks, no DNFs or anything, you could make it a round two. I mean, he's been consistent with his finishes, though, so I feel like. Oh, yeah, what are they? Okay. I wish you could have seen her face, ready. You're being a b***.

Starting point is 00:42:36 No, I'm just curious. I mean, do you know what they are? I'm like. Yes, I literally work in the series. I'm not being. I'm just asking what they are in the last four or five. races. Okay. Well, what do you think? What do you think they are, DJ?

Starting point is 00:42:50 I'm asking you. You know what? Let's go look. Let's check this out. I honestly can't. I honestly can't tell you. I did not print out every stat for every driver. I'm honestly don't know. So I was asking you what they are if they were consistent. I don't remember him being overly like. Freddie's getting ready to tell us. He's on racing reference.com typing in Parker Kliggerman. Did I do better right there? Way better. There's a change this time. Oh, sorry.

Starting point is 00:43:15 That was the wrong sound. That's the story of my life. Hey, you know who got knocked out? Your other buddy. Matt. Who? Deepenedetto? Oh, whoa.

Starting point is 00:43:23 Nailed it. I know. How did that come from? We don't work on my finals. That wasn't it. Cleggerman, fourth, 24th, fourth, third. It was last four. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:43:32 Casey, get it, girl. He's got, uh, one, two, two, two, four, five, six. I may not have every driver sat in front of me, but. Seven top tens in the last eight races. Yeah. Did he, is he a Tennessee fan, Casey? do we know Casey I'm just going to start asking you random stats

Starting point is 00:43:46 Casey I'm just going to expect Hey Casey congrats on the big one with Tennessee though That was you had to enjoy that Who's the quarterback? Austin Pay Was that who Blake? Who's the quarterback? Okay let's move on

Starting point is 00:43:57 Handed in Hooker I have enough Had enough coffee this morning Anything else on Klingerman? Klingerman Anything else do you want to talk about Parker Klingerman? No I'm just glad for them guys Hey he went out and did what he'd do

Starting point is 00:44:12 Agreed. It's been very consistent. It's perfect. He's been super consistent. I hate you. Back to the Cubs series race at Kansas. Denny Hamlin says he should have focused forward after missing the jump on that last restart, opening the door for the 45 to win.

Starting point is 00:44:33 What an idiot. Spot on, spot off Freddie. Yeah. Well, let's here, Freddie. He's great. Why were they going without him? They should have waited for them. Not great a restarts.

Starting point is 00:44:44 I could, like I said, I was doing the MRN broadcast and I seen the five was definitely laid. He was laid back about two cars on Denny. And NASCAR has claimed that they're going to crack down on this. And they do like call it out before we get to the restart box. Sometimes they close it up. If it's really bad, they warn maybe or something. But we haven't seen any penalties from it. I don't think I've seen anything deserving enough of the penalty.

Starting point is 00:45:08 But even that, I don't think it was penalty worthy. But you still shouldn't be laying back at all. Like it's supposed to be... You're not going to be able to place it. I guarantee that's true. But it's the same time, like we have to do something because somebody here's getting... If Denny doesn't lay back...

Starting point is 00:45:26 Obviously, it's screwed up. He should have just focused on what was going on in front of him. He lays back, they take off, he's got a three-car lane gap in front of him. But if he stays up there on their ass and let's Kyle lay back two cars on him, guess what happens? He's middle of three by the time we get to turn one because Kyle's coming ten more mile an hour faster than he is. So, you know, Danny screwed up at the end of the day. Danny did a, this is a terrible restart on Danny's part because of the fact that he's trying to

Starting point is 00:45:51 combat what's going on behind him instead of just taking off because it costs him to race. You know, he would have been outside of Tyler into turn one if he just gets a decent restart and Tyler can't move up to the middle and then get to the top and clear them for the lead. He got the second three or four crawlings behind him after getting stuck three rows back of Tyler. So, I mean, at the end of the day, this cost him to race. But at some point, we we have to address the fact that we got guys laying back on restart. I don't, I'm spot off. Denny just misjudged it.

Starting point is 00:46:18 If Danny focuses out front, like he said, and does his own restart and gets a run himself, even if he times it right himself, he's playing offense at the start, finish line, and there's nowhere for the five to go at that point because you can't move to the start finish line. If Denny times it right, that five has nowhere to go. And Denny just messed up. I mean, it happens. They're hard to time anyway.

Starting point is 00:46:39 I mean, it's, you'll have five resarts. there's no way you're timing all five of them at the right time. It's just how it is. I mean, we all thought the 99, and we were even part of this as well on the bottom, we were like maybe ninth or something. We were all thinking the 99 wasn't going to take off as good as he did. And then he just went really early and kind of caught. Did he go too early? I don't know. I mean, I don't remember seeing it and being like, whoa, that was really early. Brad, do you have a comment on that? Do you think he went early?

Starting point is 00:47:12 Listen, I think they lined up and I'm sitting there with Gramps watching this thing on TV and I'm like, and I literally say Denny Hamlin's going to win this race. He's the first car, all new tires on top, the bottom has sucked all day. Well, never mind, he didn't go. That's exactly what I said. I said, now he's in trouble. And honestly, the block he threw on Larson, I don't know, I'm surprised Larson didn't wreck him inadvertently without even saying he tried to wreck him. I'm surprised he just didn't wreck him because Larson did have a big run, Denny threw a late block. and I can't blame Kyle Larson on Denny having a bad restart.

Starting point is 00:47:44 I'm not going to do that either. Kyle's doing his job. Yeah. If Denny's backing up to get to the guy that's backing up, then Denny's breaking the rules too. And I want, honestly, though, I thought, I said Denny Hamlin's winning, and then he didn't win. And he finished second.

Starting point is 00:47:59 And obviously, he's going to go on to the next round. And, you know, Bristol's a good track for them. But it, it... Who was on the outside of the front row? I think the 99 went three-quarters of a car length early, but I've not seen a replay. That's just awful what I remember. remember on the jump. And again, but if that's, that's not the player's job to manage. That's the

Starting point is 00:48:18 official's job to manage. So if the 99, let me ask you this, if the 99 you think went early, that screws up everything out back. Black flagging. Well, I'm saying you can't. If he's going early, how do you penalize somebody back there? You know what I mean? Like that, the problem starts right there. You could have said post the 99 and the 5th. No, yeah. Wow. I mean, but that could, the 99 can create those scenarios by what he's doing. How many times did they tell? us at Daytona Talladega, don't block bumpers, and we have three to go in an Xfinity Series race. What do we do? Push our asses off.

Starting point is 00:48:47 How many the people do they black flag with three to go? Very rare. I mean, there was a couple races there where they started doing it quite a bit. Remember that? They did it during the race, not of the last last. Yeah, I was three to go. At the end of the race, yeah. Three to go.

Starting point is 00:48:58 So I rest my case. The players play the game. The officials officiate the game. And that's not up to Denny Hamlin to worry about it. Yeah, and that's where Denny's, like, Larson's doing it because he's going to get away with it. like there's nothing Kyle's not doing anything wrong it's just he's they're not going to call it especially not going to call it in that situation on a greenway they might call that earlier in the race

Starting point is 00:49:18 I don't recall them in my 20 plus year career I don't recall them ever calling that that late in a race oh not but my question is why does Denny even care what the five is doing if Denny does his own deal and times his run ride the five's irrelevant well he just you know he's you know as well as I do there's an advantage to laying back so you don't want to give the guy an advantage but he's I know that but if Denny but on these restarts to where does the momentum come from to get going? It comes from behind you. It comes from that push. And he knew that Larson was going to have a push. He was trying to prevent being three while getting into one. But again, he can't blame Carl Larson for his mistake.

Starting point is 00:49:53 But if he's playing off and start finish line himself. I agree with you. Yeah, Larson's going to go with him because that's the momentum. I totally, I totally agree with you. But. Well, Larson's not going to go with him. Larson's going to go. If then he moves high to go in front of the, he, Larson is going to the middle. I don't think he's going to the top. I think he goes to momentum at that point. I don't think you're trying to get in front of him.

Starting point is 00:50:10 You know, you got to beat that guy. But you're not going to get behind a slower car. You know that Danny's a fastest car. Well, you're going to have two car legs now to get to, you know, go in there. Larson won last week. There's no way in hell he wants Danny Hamill to win this week. No chance. Well, and I don't think, I don't think Carlson really accomplished what he wanted to accomplish.

Starting point is 00:50:27 Yeah. why he was mad in referencing his pit road contact with Chase Elliott. Spot on, spot off, TJ. I'm spot off because I, well, I agree with Larson, because I think when you see the video, when you get towards the end of pit road, obviously, you can see them guys. They're all. You know who you're racing. Well, they start turning left a little bit, too, because that's where you're kind of aimed.

Starting point is 00:51:02 You can see that right there. They're all kind of creeping to the left, slowly. And it just got, it got tight. There was obviously room on the outside of the 45 to the grass still. there's also half a car between the 9 and the 45, but Chase can't see him. Chase has to understand, like, in my opinion, Chase needs to slide up another four, three, four feet because you got to know there's cars coming out right there. You know we're coming out.

Starting point is 00:51:23 We've been racing with you all day right there. You know that's our stall. You know the five's inside of you. And we're racing for, I mean, I don't want to say, I mean, we're, things go right on a race or we can still win that race too. You know, the five and, you know, the five and 11 get to. together. They get out, you know, we get a run on them. We were really fast on restarts. So you're, you're not going to lift, but there's definitely more room there. And I don't think

Starting point is 00:51:48 what, what the five did was anywhere. But he was just an innocent bystander right there. So, and then the swerving deal, that was right in front of us for a second. I thought it was our car. I looked down there and I'm like, wait, is that the nine and the five? And I'm like, Brad, you see that? He's like, oh, yeah. So I'm like, the day hit. And he's like, yeah. So I don't know if that deserves swerving under the guys right front. And I'm like, Brad, he's like, at that point. Brett. I rest my case on what TJ said.

Starting point is 00:52:14 I don't have anything to add, Your Honor. It was, Chase lost his temper for no reason. Kyle Larson didn't do anything wrong. When you look back at the video, Freddie just showed me again. There's nothing Kyle Larson could have done differently in that scenario. I mean, I don't know what you think you,

Starting point is 00:52:27 you just think he wasn't going to drive on the side of the six? Like, he's got a move. I don't think room to your right. We left enough room. I think we went out and kept it as tight as we, because we had to go around the 20 right in front of us. The only thing that I did. not like about this whole situation was.

Starting point is 00:52:42 And I don't know if this is Chase Elliott or this is the NASCAR police, not letting these guys speak their mind, but he doesn't interview a Bob after the race. And Bob said, what about that deal leaving Pitt Road? You know, is that you sending a message to Kyle that you didn't appreciate that? He said,

Starting point is 00:52:55 well, what do you mean? I didn't, what, there was no message. I didn't do anything. I didn't, what, like,

Starting point is 00:53:00 listen, like this is so patronizing to our fans. Wow. Of, you know, they're not stupid. Like, you swerved,

Starting point is 00:53:07 you actually ran into him. You hung a, hard left, swerved at them, then you ran into them. Like, I get it. You probably can't say what you really want to say there because... You need to say something. Like, you can't just act like nothing happened. You know, it's just...

Starting point is 00:53:21 I hate this for our fans that like they get treated at times like they're idiots. Like, we saw what happened there. And then you, Bob asked you a question about it. You got to have a better answer then. What do you mean? What? I didn't do anything. Nothing, no. I wasn't sending any messages there. Yes, you were.

Starting point is 00:53:37 Yes, you were. Stop. Rick Hendrick probably disagrees. Yeah. He's going to have to have a milk and cookies conversation part two with these two guys. Milk and cookies. Is that a fear of admitting something? That's what I don't know. You know, like Chase.

Starting point is 00:53:51 Because you can't. Chase is usually non-controversial about stuff like this and he kind of stays out of it. But like, at the same point, you're treating fans like what they know they just saw did not happen. Right. Like, it's what I don't understand. That was just. You can say like, I didn't appreciate him running this out of me. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:54:08 When a driver's leaving their pit box, is somebody guiding him and telling him like somebody's to the right? I'm going to go ahead and tell you, anytime you get four-wise, somebody's probably going to bump each other there at some point. It might be slight, but when you get four-wide leaving pit road right there, somebody's probably going to have some contact. Four-wide, the last four or five pit stalls, green-white check are coming. Like, you're not giving up anything at that point in the race. And honestly, I thought it was pretty, I thought it all worked out pretty well. Yeah. Well, let's move on to the DBCA Main, where we catch up on all things dirt.

Starting point is 00:55:02 How about Hudson O'Neill out dueling Davenport in the World 100th win at O'Rour? That was a really good, I mean, you probably didn't watch it, did you Brett? Anytime you bring Kryptonite to Superman show, I'm not here for it. I'm spot off. Are we still in that segment? I'm in Davenport, Gavinport. What's Davenport's nickname? Superman.

Starting point is 00:55:25 I just said Superman. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. I called the other guy Criptonite. Yeah, I got you. That's a big win for Hudson, though. Yeah. It's a really entertaining race.

Starting point is 00:55:35 Those guys, like, when they run the top there and, like, they bounce off the fence. And that place is a lot of fun when it gets really slick. So I think I know a lot of people that go to that World 100. And it was a, I think they start on what, Thursday, Wednesday or Thursday or something, and they race all the way to Saturday night. It's an awesome spectacle. Yeah. Ben.

Starting point is 00:55:56 Great race. And shout out to Corey Day getting his win at Gold Cup. That was really, really cool to watch. Is that his first win? Yep. First win. One of my favorite guys was on a podium a couple nights out there, old Dom Selsie. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:56:09 That guy, did you hear the one? He gives the best interviews. Oh, my God. You'd have to go back, go back to Der Vision and watch the podium interviews. Please. Can we have him call in to some of our aiming? This guy's interview. He is awesome.

Starting point is 00:56:23 You didn't hear it. I didn't hear that. I don't think we can repeat what it said. No. Just go back to DirtVision and watch the replay from the other night. Oh, well, don't forget. You can catch us every Wednesday on DirtVision. I know there's tons of racing this week. I think MoBridge, I think I'll be there. A few other races. So be sure to check it out. You should see my, I looked at my data plan on my data, data, whatever you want to call it, on my iPad from, because I watch DirtVision like every Friday or Saturday night. It's a really good thing that I'm on an unlimited plan. Did you ever look at what you use for a day?

Starting point is 00:56:55 data or data, whatever you want to call. I have other things I can do with my time. I'm going to go and tell you, remember when you used to pay for like 10 May or, oh, yeah. Oh, my gosh. Blowing out of water. Is the World of Outlaw final still here in Charlotte? It is. That's awesome.

Starting point is 00:57:10 You going to go? It's always Phoenix race weekend. I'm going to go over there probably like Thursday night that weekend. Is DirtVision doing it? Yeah. I'm in Indianapolis that whole week for the FFAKO, so I'll miss it, but I want to take Bodey sometime. Can DirtVision put us in a suite or something? I mean, I'm sure.

Starting point is 00:57:28 I think we all know some people, but it would be really fun to go if you're not in Phoenix. If I'm home. Andrew's nodding, yes. Like he's got all this pool to get you in a suite somewhere. But that whole week is really fun. We're going to go to South Boston suite. They got one over there? We don't know anyone.

Starting point is 00:57:47 That's actually the only place Andrew can help us get in a fucking sweet. And we don't even need his help because we know Brandon. Unless you're running like 75 miles, then Andrew. Andrew can help you out there too. Andrew's going to run to the track and then... Yup. Yeah. All right, let's move on to your action theater.

Starting point is 00:58:03 A long weekend, haven't really got to get on Twitter or text, whatever we're calling it now. As I get on that, I'm scrolling down through my timeline, and then immediately I regret getting on there. Who gives a shit, Frank Griffin? If you've ever ate a damn Big Mac or not. My God. You know what? You got to. So I'm 48 years old, and Gramps loves Big Macs, and I didn't have him lunch that day,

Starting point is 00:58:39 so I stopped getting him a Big Mac. And I was like, you know what, man. And I always get a double cheeseburger, no pickles from McDonald's. I don't know what you get. That's what I get. I'm like, man, maybe I should try Big Mac sometime. That's why I tweeted. Did you try one or no?

Starting point is 00:58:50 No, I didn't try it. Oh, no. But somebody said you have to love Thousand Island dressing to like a Big Mac. And I absolutely grew up on Thousand Island dressing. That's the only dressing that was in our house. So, I mean, you never put it on your burger? No. But I'm going to try a Big Mac.

Starting point is 00:59:06 Maybe we have a Freddie or McDonald's guy. Maybe we'll have a Big Mac. No pickle. Don't get the Pickle on it. We'll do a Big Mac review. Like, what's his name does in Pizza reviews? You want to go? We'll go after the show.

Starting point is 00:59:16 One bite? They put pickles on a Big Mac? Yeah, there's pickles on Big Mac. I don't like pickles. I don't like them on my burger because all I taste is a pickle and it screws a burger up. But anyway, we'll have a Big Mac meeting. Okay. Let's move on for our own

Starting point is 00:59:33 Sandy. I just want to check on you, Freddie. Are you okay? No. Chandler and Bubba and the Giants. I mean, damn. You need a hug? I'll give you a hug.

Starting point is 00:59:45 So is it a hug? What is a, like, there's an extra little in there. I mean, is that like a squeeze too, Freddie? I mean. I'd be full palm grasping. That's what we all need. Did you say grasping?

Starting point is 01:00:01 grasping. As grasping? Yeah. Give me a little squeeze. I need a good game. There's a good game and a grasping. He's going to hold you, Freddie. Like them, I'm a hole.

Starting point is 01:00:12 Speaking of holding. Went to the game the other night. Oh my gosh, the amount of holding that I witnessed with no flags on that. Kansas City. Oh, my gosh. Wow. Yeah. And I saw the running back got up one time and just punched this other guy.

Starting point is 01:00:26 We're talking football. So we may as well. No, no, no, no. We may as well talk about the bills. a night. I want a prediction. I don't know. I can't predict it. They could either score, they're going to either lay an egg or they're going to score 40 points. That's one of the other most of the line still three. Oh, it's two. This is a good Monday night football kickoff. Please tell me it's not on ESPN. It is on ESPN. Motherf-Fi-or. I don't have ESPN.

Starting point is 01:00:49 Immediately you see every producer. Yeah, it's probably on ESPN. That's one of the words we bleep out. B.SBA or mother-b-hicker. Yeah, you can't say mother-b-k. All right. All-Fem NFL, Andrew, sorry. Trip playing for my buddies and I this weekend, and they all bailed on me. But it's, Bristol, baby.

Starting point is 01:01:12 Let's go. Bristol, Saturday night night, night. I got to ask you all this, because I'm not a big guy on focusing on our attendance, but yesterday, Sunday, Kansas, it didn't look like we were, as packed as I thought we should be. How was the stance?

Starting point is 01:01:30 I thought they were fairly strong. I was there on pit road the whole time. And I thought they were fairly strong. I do, I know Brett, you mentioned NFL opening day, having a race on that day. I don't know how you would change that though. NASCAR, like, we have a race every time. 10 a.m. race.

Starting point is 01:01:47 Tracks got lights, don't it? It's pretty easy to change it. You just move to Saturday night. Yeah. So you should think Bristol should be night. Yeah, exactly. Well, wait a minute. Hold on, hold on, hold on. College football, for the most part, is a regional sport. There are not many.

Starting point is 01:02:03 I mean, listen, do I stay up to watch Southern Cow play at 1030 on a Saturday night? Yes, but I'm a college football geek. If the race is on versus Southern Cow, I'm picking the race. But most time on Saturday, I'm not Southern Cow. Saying that college football goes up against the racing, that only exists in the South. And that only exists when big schools are playing. Alabama's or who else. But that's what they would have win against.

Starting point is 01:02:24 Saturday is Alabama and Tennessee. Texas. Alabama, Texas. Whatever. Okay. Casey, now you're Tennessee fan. I just don't know that us, I don't know that we want to ask our fans to pick NFL or NASCAR.

Starting point is 01:02:37 Opening weekend. USA Network versus all these other games are on. Only opening weekend am I talking about. And I think we now end our season earlier because of the NFL. Yeah. I think that's a big factor. So why go up against them on opening weekend? So do you think you moved Bristol night race to the NFL opening weekend?

Starting point is 01:02:59 No. You can have back-to-back night races. I mean, we used to have six or seven. Now we have two. So it's, you know, I don't, I mean, we used to run, we've ranked Kansas. We used to run, we used to run a night race the week of the Masters. Right? We ran Texas, I think, at Saturday night, the week of the Masters, not to go against

Starting point is 01:03:17 Masters Sunday. You know, opening week of football, we used to, we used to run a Saturday night race. Or, yeah, I think it was a Saturday night race. I don't remember where. Me and you used to get together on Sundays. I'm opening weekend and watch that channel that's like being on drugs. Yeah, Red Zone. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:03:31 That channel drives me bickers. It's so exciting. Everybody's about to score. I know. That's the point in the Red Zone. But, you know, so I don't know. When's the last time you've been to the Red Zone? Been a while.

Starting point is 01:03:44 All right. Let's be on. Hey, that can be the name of a club. What? Red Zone? Because you're about to score? Yeah, sure. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:03:52 Freddie made some friends over the weekend I got to hang out with Freddy Kraft at Hooters this weekend and he told me every time he gets drunk at Hooters on a Saturday night his guy wins the race and I figured out that's not true every time he gets drunk of Hooters the 45 car wins the race

Starting point is 01:04:14 that's not true we won with the 23 I'm telling you I'm the missing thing I'll do my part you screwed me up somewhere else appreciate it Yeah, so we had some fun on Saturday night at Hooters. Who was the driver?

Starting point is 01:04:30 Met Redick. Reddick popped in. He was picking up wings for his. Jason Schult. So now we found the problem. Redick has come in and stole your mojo for Hooters. He was exactly what I was going to say. He was only there for like 10 minutes.

Starting point is 01:04:43 Don't matter. He stole it right out of my beer glass. He took it. He came in and picked up wings to go back to his bus to watch the race. So he does go there for wings. Your proprietary luck is gone to Tyler Reddick. Damn it. I didn't even think about that. Yeah, son of a bitch.

Starting point is 01:04:58 I'm going to, when I kid, I'm going to kick his house. Let's go. They text me last night. They're like, we're having a wind party. Come over. I said, it's midnight. Hey, what do you think Drew's doing right now? You think Drew's in his trash can trying to glue his beard back on?

Starting point is 01:05:12 That was a bad deal for them to shave their beards off. Didn't wear that else. That's what I told my neighbor. I said, hey, you're going to glue that. Drew was with me in Hooters. Maybe we shouldn't know what the Hooters. That's because they all want the mojo, man. Reddy got there and took it.

Starting point is 01:05:24 Yeah, Drew was, I don't know, he was staying out here for something. He must be doing wheel force test somewhere or something. Yeah, here's the deal. I would love to nominate myself and my buddy for what an idiot this week. We decided we were going to shotgun a beer after every caution in the infinity race. That's a bad idea. We're not expecting five cautions in the first 75 lap. I've seen these guys at Hooters, too.

Starting point is 01:05:49 And let me tell you something. They looked like they shotguned a shot. a load of beers when they got there. I was going to say, how were they still awake? Yeah. They were tweeting that. And then I saw the guy, he's saying, I'm the one that shot on the beers.

Starting point is 01:06:05 I said, I can tell. They had three cautions in the first 12 laps. I've been telling you all, Kansas is a good time. This reaction theater is just proving it to be true. I'm not going to go to Hoosiers next year. Freddie isn't good time. And these people don't even know where the Power and Light District's at. That's even better.

Starting point is 01:06:20 That's where I was. I was, I will say that at the football. ball game. The fans were very respectful. They're partiers. They were partiers, yeah. Except for the, we had one of Brad's friend with this, I have to tell this. Brad has a friend that he grew up with that came to the game, big Lions fan. Well, there was this couple that was sitting in front of us, older couple.

Starting point is 01:06:42 And this woman, he was agri-he. He wasn't like bad, bad, but he was like, you know, every time there was a penalty, he was like, oh, cheaters, you know, and she was just like getting mad because the lions were staying with him and then got ahead. She just kept picking away, picking away. And then she would do the little, like, and then she covered her ear one time, and then she just got up and left.

Starting point is 01:07:02 She never came back. Wow. Game ends, the husband stands up, and I'm like, oh, here we go. I hope Brad texts Clint something to mess with him. I don't know if he saw him or not. I don't know if he texts something to just mess with him. Oh, yeah.

Starting point is 01:07:15 About beating him. Yeah, I told him we should do a wellness check on Clint after the game. But the husband stands up to go to leave, and he turns around, I'm like, oh, here we go, here we go and he's like hey congrats guys all them like oh that's a nice guy do you wear a lion's jersey uh no I was gonna wear my Josh Allen jersey

Starting point is 01:07:31 but that was probably that was probably going to be bad because Josh Allen Josh Allen's been owning them in that stadium except for the 13 second game which he still owned them in that game that wasn't his fault we got one more and I just opened your text bread

Starting point is 01:07:44 thank you thank you for sending you're gonna send that 50 people well bless his heart Freddy He's a sweet young man Oh, not Freddy But he can't drive

Starting point is 01:08:02 Worth a good goddamn He's red more cars out Than ready Yeah, he's thin house He's gonna put poor Lennonwood in the poor house Oh, no Don't put poor letter

Starting point is 01:08:25 Wood in the poor house Full band Yeah, that was I was just texting with Eddie Wood Not about that about something Are they in the poorhouse? Well, he was talking about being a hearties. Oh, for breakfast.

Starting point is 01:08:47 Anyway, Harrison has had a rough go. Oh, my gosh, ma'am. He probably can't wait for a fresh start again. You know, I mean, like next year, Colleen, you know. These years are not fun. Like when the one he's in, just it draws you down. You've been a part of some bad years at times. And it's just you've had a couple.

Starting point is 01:09:06 It just, it's, it's. You just can't wait to get through it and start it. And sophomore slump's a real thing. It's always been a real thing. I don't know why, but it has around here. Yeah, and they made a crew chief change last week. So all you're trying to do now is build a notebook with your new crew chief. And they get taken out of a race early.

Starting point is 01:09:21 It just sets that back even more. So, yeah. Him and Cendrick both. They've just had rough seasons, man. Like, just rough all together. Well, to leave us an audio message, call our new number, 704, 802-9-7572. especially if you're from going to who there is before the race with Freddie. Apparently, I'm ordering wings next week.

Starting point is 01:09:45 Whatever Tyler got. Yeah. I don't know how I should ask what flavor you got. You should see where he's going next week. Steal his thunderback. FaceTiling right now. Tyler, what's you order? He's probably not awake.

Starting point is 01:09:56 That's even better if he answers. Moving on to AskDBC. Use hashtag AskDBC to send us your questions on Twitter. This first one is from Michael. What are you most looking forward to about the Bristol Ultimate Experience? For me, Columbia. The Columbia story is normally told in the Bristol Suite. That's not what I look forward to telling,

Starting point is 01:10:21 but that's what people get when they come to see us. Just meeting fans, meeting new fans. I've seen, I'm sure we see a lot of the same people. I know the coffee's come to almost every one of these. I don't know if they're coming this week. I haven't heard from them. but just looking forward to meeting new people and seeing old friends that we've seen in sweets years past or events passed, I should say.

Starting point is 01:10:41 Yeah, best part about it, honestly, man, just hanging out with our fans and supporters, and not necessarily fans, but supporters. And they become friends. I mean, it's really cool to see people love the sport of NASCAR. Some people have been to this ultimate experience as their first race, and by the end of it, they're like, this is the only way I'll ever be able to do this, because it is awesome. And our team has been working very hard for Dirty Mom.

Starting point is 01:11:05 media to make it an amazing weekend. Get there when the suite's open and we'll see y'all shortly after and I'll be hanging out for most of the race. And you boys are stopping by, what, 430? Yeah, I think so. Yeah. And if you haven't seen Brett's tweets during the race, he's, um, imagine it in person. So, yeah, I think it would be very exciting for being in this week. Imagine it in person. Yes. I'll be there too. Oh, awesome. My first time at Bristol. Oh, yeah. You never been to Bristol. You You're running up? You're going to run up there? I'm very fortunate in the amount of professional sports venues that I've been to in my life. And I include the L.A. Coliseum as one of the coolest venues I've walked into.

Starting point is 01:11:45 It is a cool place. Walking into Bristol Motor Speedway is the coolest sports venue you'll ever go to. Yeah. For sure. I can't say the same for the Chief Stadium. Standing on that roof, looking down into that bowl, walking into that tunnel, looking up at the bowl, being seated in the bowl, being in the suites. I don't, this place, Andrew,

Starting point is 01:12:05 seeing that massive TV screen hang over here. I can't wait. I cannot wait. This is the best sports venue in, that I've ever been to in America. The buildup. And I've been to the new Cowboys Stadium. I've been to World Series Games in Phoenix.

Starting point is 01:12:18 I've been very fortunate to see a lot of venues. This venue, it's just freaking epic. The build up to it, the fireworks, the, everything. Yeah,

Starting point is 01:12:27 it's pretty cool. Definitely, if you're a race fan and you want to see one of the best tracks in person, it's definitely Bristol. Agreed. Wear your ear plugs. Yes. Especially with these cars.

Starting point is 01:12:41 But if you're in the Dirtyymo experience. Yeah, you don't need them in the suites. We got scanners for you in the suite. Scanners so you can hear Freddie. Fireball. Everybody gets a fireball shot. Freddie, do we prove the mile and a half stuff any better for you? Yeah, yeah.

Starting point is 01:12:55 I was actually going to bring that up. You were fast. Buster was top 10. You were top five, I thought, most of the day. That's what you need to do. You've got to have speed of these mile and a half. I didn't expect to come out of there with a stage win, but that worked out well. You know, you got Texas coming in Vegas.

Starting point is 01:13:12 So now you're, I mean, obviously, Bradson. We had good speed at Texas last year. Yeah. That's good. This next one is from Philip. What was it like going back to Dover after the September 11th attacks in 2001? First of all, it's September 11th today. My heart goes out to everybody affected by that.

Starting point is 01:13:29 Obviously, you know, all Americans were. I'll tell you, I don't think I've ever. told this story publicly. Elliot had the United States Air Force sponsorship that year, and we canceled the race at New Hampshire when 9-11 happened. So Dover was our first race back, and so many NASCAR sponsors and teams put out, you know, paint schemes that were reflective of the United States of America, American flags. But Elliot and I were asked by the United States Air Force to fly into Dover Air Force Base. And at the time, the Air Force Base was closed off to civilians because of 9-11.

Starting point is 01:14:04 They were under Orange Alert or whatever they call it, where they only let certain people in. And we walked into an environment that we were not prepared for, certainly at our age back then. All the body parts from all over the country from every crash site were being flown into Dover for us, for them to be able to identify who these people were. So they had the top people in the world for forensic science from dental fingerprinting and everything and those doctors and those scientists and those people that were working in that

Starting point is 01:14:35 event came out and this was literally they asked elliot to come for to be a morale booster because those people were working around the clock and i've never been to anything like that and i hope i never go to anything like that again where we were asked to go do something positive in such a negative time bone chilling but the men and women that were there and telling us stories were literally heroes behind the scenes of what was happening post 9-11. And so, you know, that race is always going to stand out. It was sold out. And, again, a lot of patriotic paint schemes out there.

Starting point is 01:15:07 But I'll never forget flying in. Because as a civilian, you guys fly a lot. I mean, we all fly a lot. How many times are you actually are you in the air, in an airplane, and you see a fighter jet? It's very, very rare. And when we flew in that day, there were fighter jets from the time we took off from Statesville, North Carolina, until we landed at the, Dover Air Force Base. We could see fighter jets out the side of playing multiple, multiple times.

Starting point is 01:15:30 So very scary, eerie time for the country. Obviously, we've come back from that. But I'll never forget going to that Air Force Base. Yeah, obviously, I didn't go to Dover. I wasn't spotting. Yeah, we weren't there quite yet. But yeah, I just remember. I mean, I lived in New York, obviously the time. So it kind of hit home for me, hit home for everybody, really. You know, just happened an hour from my house, really. So it was a tough time, like you said. this next one is from Jessica. What was your first thought when y'all first met each other?

Starting point is 01:16:03 Oh. I don't even remember. I was going to say, how do we know the first time we met each other when you all weren't that impressionable? I don't know. I don't remember. I'd have to guess. Me and Brett were probably drunk if I was just going to go out on a limb.

Starting point is 01:16:18 I would probably say the first time I met Brett was probably at something similar. Yeah, part of years. Yeah, 100%. Hands down. First time I admit, TJ would have been somewhere running around with Elliot and Dale Jr. Because Elliot and Del Jr., there were years there where they were super tight and did a lot of things together. And, you know, Freddie's same thing. I don't know the first time I probably ever met, you may have been on a roof somewhere.

Starting point is 01:16:39 But we certainly hung out other places after. So that's pretty funny. Maybe I need to do a better job of remembering the first time I meet people. Yeah. Let's move on to What an idiot. What an idiot, man. My one idiot, they gave it away. They gave themselves away in the, in reaction theater.

Starting point is 01:17:04 I was going to, the guys shotguning beers, every caution. You know, I guess you don't anticipate that. I mean, you guaranteed the shotgun at least two. Yeah, so they got the benefit of three in the first 12 laps, and then they still had the two stage breaks coming. So that was five. So they shotguned at least five. I can't remember how many cautions were they're in the race?

Starting point is 01:17:24 A bunch. A bunch. So, yeah, so they were feeling no pain by the time they got to Hooters later on that night. you got well speaking of that uh i'm probably going to give it to we're sitting up there in the elevator what do you call lobby lobby yeah up by the roof and this woman comes through there and i'm just had she's the elevators were pretty jammed up at the bottom so we're kind of talking to her and i'm like hey you know where are you heading she's like well del junior forgot his belt so she had to go meet the kennie the bus driver at the bottom of the elevator so we could get his belt um you know i'm not

Starting point is 01:17:59 sure what kind of homework he had that morning, but surely you can remember to put your belt on. Well, but let's defend him per second. If he wore elastic pants up to the booth and then he was going to change into real pants, it's easy to forget your belt. Really? Don't you think? I don't think he's changing pants to the booth. What elastic pants? Yeah, like pants like jogging pants. Pants to stretch. I don't know that that's what I don't think that's what's wearing. Here's the last time you saw Adel Jr. a gym shorts. Here's actually what happened. He wore yoga pants to the booth. And when he realized he had to change. Probably so. He realized he didn't have a belt on in his Lulu Lemon and Yoga. You're telling me you don't wear a belt with your yoga pants? I don't. I'm just simply

Starting point is 01:18:42 saying that you can remember to put a belt on. I saw Daniel Suarez in yoga pants in some Twitter video. All right. This is what cut off. He could have, uh, those with their, they tell them. They sell belt. Do they sell belt to Lowe's? Maybe he can get one of Lowe's. Yeah, probably. A gift card to guy. Yeah. Hey, when you. Andrew, next time you go by Stefan's office, can you grab me one in a couple of them? Actually, get us all some. I'll grab us some Lowe's gift cards.

Starting point is 01:19:04 Yeah, all of us, please. Please give us some gift cards. Man, I guess... They got belt. I guess my one idiot is shifted because I... Oh. I've been big on Chase Elliott, you know, over the last few months, and I'm not... I can't be big on him after that interview he did where he just didn't say anything.

Starting point is 01:19:24 I mean, the last interview he did before he got suspended, he lied about everything. And now he's just playing dumb. Say what happened. Just, that's what I mean. That's for everybody. It's not just chased. Could you blame him though? I mean.

Starting point is 01:19:36 I just did. You don't have to say. I mean, he counted us dead. You don't have to say like. He ran into my left side door. I was pissed off so I ran him down in the grass and I hit him. That's all you got to say.

Starting point is 01:19:46 Moving on to Bristol. And then he gets suspended. No. No. We weren't going to get suspended for that. It was weird. He ran into me and then the wheel slipped out of my hand. But a few drivers have done that this year.

Starting point is 01:19:57 There was nothing wrong. He just showed his displeasure right there, and that's it. That happens almost every time off a pit road at some point. Well, let's move on to the Birch Gold. That's Gold Ward. Don't forget, you can get a free info kit on protecting your IRA or 401k with gold by texting DBC to 98989. This is an easy one. Who you got? Wait, was the code DBC or DBC? DBC W&BC. DB. D.B. Hands down. My Burt's gold genius this week

Starting point is 01:20:41 is the 22 team. They pulled a rabbit out of the hat, had a bad day going, end up with a great finish, completely changed their points. I mean, we're talking a 15, 16 point jump from where they were. And if they take four tires and they come out way in the back, then I have finished dead last. So big hats off to that team for a gold decision.

Starting point is 01:21:00 Yeah, mine, you know, obviously I can easily give it to Tyler and then for, you know, really fast race car all day and close it out with a win. But I'm a highlight two guys, buddies of mine, that I think had two really good runs for themselves. First was Krause. He gets back in the 11 car again, runs top 10 all day. I think he ended up seventh or eighth. I thought he did a good job. He's done a good job every time he drives that thing. Hopefully he gets some more opportunities in it.

Starting point is 01:21:24 And Eric Jones. Eric Jones did a really good job yesterday. He's done a really good job the last two weeks. He's always been really good at Darlington. But to come out yesterday, and like TJ talked about earlier, like they're not getting a lot of support, I'm assuming, from Chevrolet, knowing that they're going to Toyota next year for him to go out there and essentially run top five all day long. And then he comes out.

Starting point is 01:21:42 You know, you're talking about Lugano. If they're side by side in the backstress for the lead. If he gets out front, you know, you never know what could happen there. But no solid run for both of them guys. And Eric, I thought did a really good job all day yesterday. Yeah, you know, I was going to say Eric Jones because he ran a really solid race, did a really, really, really good job. There's no way.

Starting point is 01:21:59 You were going to say your team first. No, it wasn't. No, Eric did a, I mean, he was solid, man, and he slowly worked his way up. Liar. No, I'll give it to, I'll give it to Eric. Eric deserves it. Eric deserves it. Yeah, I mean, the season that he's had as well, I mean, he's quietly had a really, really rough season.

Starting point is 01:22:19 And a lot of playoff drivers had problems, but even then, it's hard to be a non-playoff guy for whatever reason and compete and outrun these guys. Yeah, I mean. Like, we saw a little bit yesterday, you know, we were picking on here a minute ago, but like, The nine was kind of back yesterday. We saw him up there leading the race. He was running in the top three to four majority of the race. It was going to finish third, I think, if the yellow doesn't come out, I don't even know where he ended up after the last restart.

Starting point is 01:22:41 But, you know, they showed flashes of where we expect them to be. Yeah, there were people on Twitter saying, I can keep his job. I read a post where it said, who do you think out there that they wish their season was over now? And somebody was like Chase Hill. And I'm like, no, I think they need something to build on going into next year. You don't want to go into next year sucking. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:23:00 That's a long freaking off season. Now on to DBC picks. Oh, congratulations, Freddie. That a boy, Denny. Appreciate you. Thank you, Freddie, for making me doze. I'm an idiot because I was watching the race the whole time thinking I had picked Christopher Bell.

Starting point is 01:23:16 I was like, my guy's on the pole, my guy's fast, and then this pit crew started sucking, and I was like, well, my guy's pit crew suck. And then I look at the sheet of paper, and it ends up I had Martin Truex, who went out of the race on what felt like lap five. So I'm actually glad that I didn't. know I had Martin Truex. I've been going to hurt you to see that I had Bell. Because I enjoyed the race thinking that I had Christopher Bell.

Starting point is 01:23:35 But I do get to pick first because my guy finished last. Congratulations, MTJ on that. I'm going to go with a guy that's not in the driver's championship, but he is an owner's championship. He's one of the best of Bristol, Chase Elliott. Good one. The same guys run good at this track. It doesn't matter what you show up in to drive.

Starting point is 01:23:53 Well, guys. Who's next? Casey. Well, guys. I don't know. Make your pick. Guys. Head in hooker.

Starting point is 01:24:00 Yeah. You're in Tennessee? After all. I'd probably pick Van Gisberg if I were you. Oh, I can't decide. Go with a sleeper, Casey. Big underdog. I think I might take Bisher.

Starting point is 01:24:18 Picks are final. Is that your final answer? Yes, T.J. He's locked in. He won the race there last year. He did. I forgot about that one last week. He did forget about that.

Starting point is 01:24:26 But you got to remember the 20 cut of tire, the six cut a tire, and they took two to get out. He did a great job, but don't get me wrong. but I think it's between two guys, and they're right next to each other on this list. I just got to figure out which one I want here. Hamlin or Harvick? Which one am I going with?

Starting point is 01:24:45 Well, it's not Wallace and Wire. Hamlin or Harvick, you said? Yeah. I really, I like, Denny's been hot lately, and I want to just pull away in these playoffs, so I'm going to go with Danny Hamlin. I'll take Christopher Bell. there you have it ladies and gentlemen we're off to bristol motor speedway so is jesse love

Starting point is 01:25:08 racing this weekend love machine jesse love did a good job he ran top 10 in the truck yeah after he i don't know that's my one idiot actually i'm going back no he didn't he didn't finish top 10 in the oh no he did get to qualified or set back whatever penalized i didn't see it so i don't know if he should have or not but my one idiot is jesse love for what because the first lap of practice jesse love goes out there and he comes down the front straightaway and I don't know what the fuck he was doing he was all over the place swerving I almost wrecked somebody after 98 I think and then he's like the right side window just blew out and hit me in the face and Nick Payne spots from me he's like what whoa what and the crudgy's like there is no right side

Starting point is 01:25:50 window here like there was never I think it turned out to be like his uh tearoffs or slapping him on the side of the head or something I call my daughter's dramatic I don't remember But instead, the right side window hit me. The guy's like, there is no right side window. That's funny. This is just a rough guess right here, or rough, but that's what they called. All right. Triple header this weekend.

Starting point is 01:26:11 Trucks, Exfantley and Cup. Thursday night, Friday night, Saturday night. Who is, this is the last race in the first round of the playoffs. Who is on Bubble Watch? Bubble watch? And who will not make it? Yeah, and who will not make it into the next round? I'd say everybody.

Starting point is 01:26:29 below true X has probably got to win. It's going to be hard to make up 20 points on the cut line. I mean, this is going to be you know who's going to drive like a crazy guy? Stanhouse. The guy who's fast there is Ricky Stenhouse. This is probably his best non-plate track, non-super

Starting point is 01:26:45 speedway track. Michael McDowell must win and it'll take a miracle for that happen. Nothing against Michael, but this isn't a place where a team like that can show up and win. Not usually. Nothing against him and his team, but Tough.

Starting point is 01:27:00 Man, this is tough. I'm telling you right now, listen, Christopher Bisher, Christopher Bell, Joey Lugano, Kevin Harvick cannot afford to have a problem. In stage two or sooner. Yeah, Ross.

Starting point is 01:27:12 If they do, they're in deep. So, thinking through strategy, Freddie, what is yours going to the weekend knowing that you essentially need to win?

Starting point is 01:27:22 You got to be. You've got to qualify good. You've got to qualify good. You've got to get good pit stall selection. You've got to get, you just got to do everything you can to keep track position. I mean, you're going to go after stage points, but at the same time, if it's looking like, you know, we get a caution right before a stage and it's looking like we're not, you know,

Starting point is 01:27:37 there's guys, if Truex and Harvick are in the top 10, you're not going to make up a bunch of points, you'll pit there to flip that stage and try to get a bunch of track position on them. So that's what you've got to watch for, you know, if there's an opportunity, we're going to have to do opposite of the four and the 19, essentially, because, you know, if we just race heads up with them, we'd have to beat them by, you know, five spots of stage and then 10 spots at the race. So we're going to probably be doing opposite of them a lot. If they stay out, we'll pit.

Starting point is 01:28:03 If they pit, we'll stay out. And just try to, just the biggest thing is, obviously, we have to go win the. We're planning on going to win the race. And if one of them have trouble, we might find ourselves in a different scenario. But you're just going to do everything you can to keep track. But you still have racing reference up. Top four locked in. Kyle Larson, Tyler, Redd, Denny Hamlin, William Byron.

Starting point is 01:28:19 They're locked in. They're going to the next round. The next two, Brett Kislauski, Ryan Blaney, all they got to do is just run the laps. Don't do anything stupid. you're going to be totally fine. Brad, obviously, if he goes out and gets some stage points, stage one, he's locked in. Kyle Busch, he doesn't do anything stupid. He's fine.

Starting point is 01:28:34 One of his better tracks, if not one of his best tracks. Richmond and Bristol, he's crazy good at. Ross Chastain, he can't afford to screw up either. And he can't afford to get an erected at one. So I think when you look at ninth through 16th in his points, that's the guys that have to focus on unloading fast, qualifying well, doing the things Freddie said. Who's not going to make it?

Starting point is 01:28:55 I'll go with Kevin Harvick's going to make. make it. Great track for him. Joey Legano. He's not had the speed to make it, but damn they're good at strategy, and he's good at Bristol. How good is he at Bristol? T.J. I mean, he's pretty good at Bristol. Top five guy at Bristol, top seven? Usually, but I don't think the cars, they've been struggling. But Joey will make some of that up himself there. Christopher Bell, it seems like one of those Feaster Famine guys. He can step on his, he can make issues for himself easily. The line he's going to run there is going to be very risky for Christopher Bell.

Starting point is 01:29:32 I mean, Christopher Bell and Tyler Redick are the same people to me. I think Tyler's a little bit more talented at this point in his career, but they both will, for whatever reason, as a team, not just them two as drivers. They end up with a lot of mistakes. Christopher Bell's pick crew cannot do what they did to him yesterday. If nobody has problems, I see it finishing, you know, I know somebody will, but like seven points is a lot to make up on Hardwick at Bristol. I think, I hate to say this, but I think bubble Wallace, Ricky Stenhouse, Michael McDowell are all out.

Starting point is 01:30:01 And I think that Christopher Bell's out. He's my fallout of the chase. Playoff. If, if Mark, like that, I really think. Do you agree the bottom three or out? I actually think the bottom four are not going to make it. If somebody does, though, it's going to be Bell in my opinion as well. I don't think, so Martin's got some things going against him.

Starting point is 01:30:23 I don't think Bristol is one of Martin's better tracks. And he's all, he's going to go out early in qualifying. He's going to qualify. It's going to be really hard to qualify good. The track gets better as they go. So a late qualifying run, so he's not going to have the, it's going to be hard to lay down a great lap and get that good pit stall, you know. So he's going to have arguably mid, mid-pack pit.

Starting point is 01:30:46 So I just think things are. So you think the bottom four stay the bottom four? Yeah. From a spotter's perspective, with... Hold on a minute. Who you got, Freddie? Let's say that Bubba cannot win this race.

Starting point is 01:31:00 That is part of your picking rules. Because obviously, we know you want to win. We know you want to transfer. Yeah, I think it's going to be a long shot for us to make it. So the bottom three are out. And, yeah, I see Martin getting in. It's just going to take a mistake from somebody. And this is a place where you see,

Starting point is 01:31:14 you see mistakes come for, like, not of your own doing. You know, a wreck happens in front of you, and this place is so fast, you know, you guys are both spotted there forever. Like, you're indirect. before you even know what's really happening. You know, a guy cuts a tire up top. You're going to run in the back of them because we're all running the same line around the top.

Starting point is 01:31:29 So you see guys get in trouble like that. Lapcars, you know, we see guys get collected by, I think it was Blaney, got wrecked by a lap car here a couple years ago. So, you know, if I got to say somebody's out, I don't know. I think Truex can jump Harvick, probably. I know Harvick's really good at Bristol, but he's been fast lately, too, man. Harvest had speed. Yeah, we'll see. And Bristol's probably one of his best tracks.

Starting point is 01:31:52 I just, I just, it's hard for me. It's, it's hard to, you know, see him casting Kevin, but it's also at the same time harder for me, as good as they've been all year to see them not make it out of the first round. The fact that Joy Lugano has the cushion that he has just goes back to genius. I would easily pick that, you know, if that, if that race ended with that, without a busher caution and Lugano's sitting there, I think they were like two points separated. Yeah. I would say, oh, yeah, Trudex is going to out run it by two points, two spots.

Starting point is 01:32:19 Yeah, this is all going to come down to the beginning of the race. if Joey qualify as well and he gets some stage points to beginning, that battle is pretty much over. Joy Lagano will be the hardest guy to pass all night. Yes or no? Unless Newman's there. I don't know if Newman's running. Yeah, he's not going to give up anything.

Starting point is 01:32:37 He's got to be that way. He's, but it also depends. Truex goes out and does have a good qualifying run and does get, and Truex starts out pointing him in the first couple stages, that's going to really tighten things up. So knowing this track is very small and you pretty much as a spotter have to pay attention to your driver, but also there's wrecks happening at a half a lap ahead of you. That's five seconds.

Starting point is 01:33:06 Just for like human thought process. When you say half a track, we're five seconds from that wreck. And on top of it, Pitt Road can sneak up on you pretty quick. So how does that work from a spotter's perspective just trying to look at five million angles of the track? Pit road is not a big issue there. What's tricky about pit road is if you're doing green flag stops, because I've seen guys at Jeff Gordon's caliber go down the wrong pit road. So the spotter driver really have to get in sync before the race

Starting point is 01:33:34 and during those pace laps to think about if we pit under green, we only run half a pit road. We don't have to run the full thing. That's where pit road is tricky, Casey. And that's a mental error, small mental error. But the spotters are going to be on top of that, I would think. I mean, these 16 guys all have very formidable. spotters. All of them? All of them? I'm still in this thing. Yeah, I can think of two off the top of my head.

Starting point is 01:34:00 I actually have to call it Brandon McFrendles because I'll know if you heard. Actually, there's a couple. I don't have a lot of faith in since y'all. And it is not these two. And for the spotters that are listening, if you think it's you, it's probably you. If you think if this song is written about you, it is. Oh, you guys are so funny. Listen, this is going to be an action pack, 500 lap. How do we, uh, how do we not, I mean, we're not going to talk about that? That's what that sounds like getting knocked the fuck out. Yeah, I mean, dang. What's it? Yeah. I mean, I can't believe Ryan Blaney just went straight to violence. What do you think, Josh had a golf club with him or something? I mean, who do you think Brandon

Starting point is 01:34:38 Reynolds against Josh Williams without golf clubs? Wait, teed up. What do you? So, uh, so Ryan Blaney came over. Josh isn't fighting. I can tell you that, right? Ryan Blaney came over his radio and said to his spotter, Josh Williams, go knock Brandon McReynolds out. Who is Ross Chastain Spotter? So I don't know. What did Ross do wrong? I don't know.

Starting point is 01:34:58 I think he wouldn't let him pass. Yeah, he was racing him really hard. It was just, he was being, he was being Ross. Yeah. But I love it. Yeah. It was great when I saw it on Twitter. The best was Brandon tweets, that's cute.

Starting point is 01:35:09 He responded to the tweet, that's cute. And I did, I responded with, uh, Smokey from Friday. You got knocked the fuck out. Oh, you just got knocked. Yeah, that's good. Yeah. I don't think that's just, first of all, Josh isn't fighting. Second of all, if he did, that's just a vacation.

Starting point is 01:35:28 So I've been around Ryan Blaney a few times, who is a really chill dude. Yeah. But he does have a little bit of a temper, right? Del Jr., Del Jr. brings it up frequently on the broadcast. And then in addition to that, man, they just kept on yesterday. Like, they kept on about how hard he is on the radio and how he's so mad and how he's having these meltdowns. and they literally said and they asked the crew chief what do you do about it he's like well we just kind of

Starting point is 01:35:53 don't do anything and we hope that he can self-heel i don't know i mean he it'd be hard to spot for him listening to the way he does he mf the spotter too oh yeah oh yeah i ain't putting up that yeah no i mean he emmfs everybody he em off his spotter other spotters he wants him he don't know different the del junior yeah some of the times you listen to some of the stuff that comes up i will say it's del junior and it's del jrador self-heeled sometimes. Yeah, when you turn your radio off. Well, that one time when I quit spotting for 30 laps or whatever it wasn't.

Starting point is 01:36:28 Were your feelings hurt? Oh, I was so mad. Maybe I'll tell that story in Vegas. Yeah. I was so mad. Get them lined up. Get them stories lined up. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:36:36 Are you still up there? Yes, but I'm not talking to him. I'm not going to get his black fly, but I am not speaking to him. That's funny. Oh, well, thank you all. so much for listening, as always. Catch us on DirtVision this upcoming Wednesday. Special guest next week.

Starting point is 01:36:55 Oh, yeah. Are we announcing this? We do got a special guest next week, unless he bails for some reason. Tim Dugger is going to be in town, so he's going to come over here after the Bristol night race. He's probably going to bail. Who's Alabama play?

Starting point is 01:37:06 Is that or does that? Yeah, we got to see if Alabama will lose again. He might not show up. We need another context here. When he leaves Bristol, he's going to wear in North Carolina to be here. I'm just worried. I'm just worried that Dugger ain't going to be able to show up.

Starting point is 01:37:17 That's what I'm worried about. Are you going to blame Dale for that? No, no, he'll be here. I think he'll be here. All right. Yeah, I think Dugger, we can talk about him abruptly leaving a group chat that we have because Dougger went to the Alabama game

Starting point is 01:37:32 when they just lost him. He was not, he is really good at like sh-h-talking. Mark that. He's really good at it. He is very poor at receiving it when it goes to Alabama. All you see is, you know, about three, four comments, and then Tim Dugger is left to come. Tim Dugger, country music recording artists, big eyelesser, huge NASCAR fan, lives in Nashville,

Starting point is 01:37:59 frequents the batters box. Oh, yeah, loves the baders box. Which if you've been to Nashville, that's a dive bar mainly for locals. This guy frequents Ireland, Iceland or wherever he just came, he just came back from. We're talking about going Ireland in like January. Oh, Dugger. I want to go there. I'd go there. He'll go for the weekend, like a weekend trip. He goes like, I'm going for a week. He goes like, He's like, all right, what are you doing this weekend? He's like, I'm just going to shoot over to Ireland for a couple days. Is that near here?

Starting point is 01:38:21 Like, is that a close flight? Yeah, man. I mean, it's probably 10 hours, I would say. 10? No, I don't know how much. It's probably not that much. It's probably like six. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:38:30 It's probably six or seven. Either way, yeah. You will not want to miss next week's episode. Hopefully. If he shows up. Don't miss the races this weekend. Don't miss DBC next week. Love you guys.

Starting point is 01:38:42 Thanks for listening. Have a great week. Yeah. We'll see it. We'll see it the experience this week. I love Go Bill's word. Check out Dirty Mo Media, Twitter, Facebook, TikTok, and Instagram.

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