Door Bumper Clear - 310. Talladega: Cheap Shot or Sucker Punch

Episode Date: October 2, 2023

This week's show breaks a DBC record for the fastest one to go off the rails. So buckle up. Brett Griffin, Freddie Kraft, TJ Majors, and Casey Boat are back to recap everything from Talladega. TJ breaks down Brad Keselowski's crash with Carson Hocevar, the group discusses Kevin Harvick's DQ and debates whether or not the 4 car will win a race this year.In Spot On Spot Off, the group talks about Spire Motorsports purchasing KBM, NASCAR's "no locking bumpers" rule in the Truck Series race, Nick Sanchez saying Matt Crafton 'sucker punched' him in a post-race fight, Cup cars struggling with the current speedway package and Harvick's late-race moves that lost him the race to Ryan Blaney.Plus, the group shares 2024 schedule rumors ahead of this week's announcement, stories of fights on the spotters stand, and hears hilarious calls from Ryan Blaney fans rejoicing in the hot tub after the 12's win. Want more DBC? Check out and subscribe to the new DBC YouTube channel! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

All right. I'm going to start because Freddie might not make it. Hurry up. It's ticking time bomb. Hey, everybody. That was bad. All right, let's try again. That was bad.

That was bad. T.J.'s been smoking. I am. It's going to be a long fucking show. God, what is in my lungs? All right. The following is a production of Dirty Mode Media. No, long for, clear.

Clear by two. Pretty shallow entry. bumper clear. Hey everybody. I'm T.J. Major, Spotted to the Sixth Cup car. I had the 61 truck this weekend, and I know you were missing the truck racing Brett. Brett Griffin and I hate Freddy Kraft. I hope he chokes on whatever he eats for lunch and vomits.

I don't think he's going to eat lunch. He's going to be sleeping. I don't think it was my fault. F off. All the way off. Wow. I am never hanging out with you. You are a dirt racer ever again.

What's his name? We can cut right to the high side tickler. Is that his name? We can cut right to the BBC A-V-Aid if you are. Ready. Who are you? All right, guys. We'll talk to you next week.

I bet Andrew I know what a French tickler is. Brett. He has no fucking idea what a French tickler is. Brandon's covering his face. Brandon's turning red laughing and Andrew has no idea. Let's take it. I'll just look it up. Let's, no, hang it.

I'm going down right. Do you know what it is? Do you know what it is? Casey is also Googling it. This guy in the end has no idea either. These two on the end, these two don't know. These three. They're children.

Anyway, French ticklers are children? No, no, no. You guys are children. They make children. You cannot say, it's illegal to say French tickler and children in the same sentence. That is illegal. You can't say that. You just did, so you might need to cut that out.

Why is it French? Okay, ready. Holy shit. Readycraft. What's up? This f*** show is not going to make it. Like this might be it. We might be done after this one.

And we haven't even finished the intro yet. I'm going to die. Why is it French? Hi. My name is Fred Kraft. French Freddie. French Freddie fans. Oh, last night, you would have loved this part.

Oh, this is a lady walks over to him. And she's an attractive older lady, right? And I say older is in my age. She French? She's like, are you John Kraft? Oh, my God. She goes, and poor John gets this all the time because me and John obviously look a lot of like.

And everybody goes, was Freddy. And John's like, no, I'm not Fred. But it happened. And he gets so man. And yesterday this lady walks over and Brett goes, oh, she recognized you. And I'm like, oh, God, I don't know. We obviously were in big ass all. I'm sorry, but I'm like, oh, I don't know who this lady is. And she goes

walking over and she's like, John, right? And I'm like, no. Oh, my God. She's like, you're not John. I go, no, I got a brother named John. She's like, does he look like you? I was like, yeah, unfortunately. I was like, yeah, but John has a beard. Like, Freddy has a normal beard. You could not say that.

Hey, guys, Casey vote here. Andrew's making notes now to ask Mike Davis if we can say Mike, can we say French tickler and in the same show? That's actually, we should get bonus points for them. Working those two words and French tickler. We just invented a new condom. Oh my gosh.

Speaking of, not that we want to go any further off the rails, but I was asked last week if there was just. where this is going. If there was a particular condom brand that wanted to sponsor the show. I did see that. It was a cittler. I'm leaving. I'm going to have aneurysm. Thanks for coming. Thanks for listening. We're going to be in Roval this weekend.

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I thought she said a free gift. I'm not going to lie. No, you need that though. Somebody should make one with like y'all's faces on them. What? A condom? We're getting canceled. This is all going to have to be canceled.

I don't see, I don't really see those machines and restrooms anymore. Where do they, where do kids get condoms these days? I think they're still in truck stop. What the hell are you doing the truck stop? You don't, you don't go to a truck stop? You ever drove to a racetrack? Yeah, I don't really do. same for a truck. I don't drive a truck. Well, I don't go to a truck stop.

He does a Tesla. I mean, Tesla guys don't go to truck stops. There's not a lot of. There's not an electric gloves anywhere. There is. Three hundred other gas stations. Oh boy. I'm dying. Okay. Well, uh, uh, this is not good. You're not a fan. You're not a fan of rechargeables. Oh, God. I heard. Uh, uh, uh, uh, Oh, no. Never mind. Yeah.

Don't just stop. There was a lady on an electric device. Oh, my God. Electric device. Is that the one where they line them up and there's like a bunch of? Chandler, Chandler told me about it yesterday. Let's shift. Dude, is that the one that they have the saddles and people control them?

Shift gears to Talladega. Chandler. What the heck is Chandler out there doing? Looking at that. Oh, my gosh. I'm leaving. Thanks for. listening.

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Just go to spot. I don't split off. Just stop. There was a lot to talk about. So Taladaga Race Weekend. Ryan Blaney will officially move on to the round of eight after his win at Taledaca. I'm afraid to ask any of y'all how the race went, especially Freddie and Brett, because they clearly might not know or remember it.

TJ, how was your race or the half that you? Well, I mean, it was great to lap whatever that was. I mean, it was just Talladega. I mean, do you want to talk about it? This, we can talk about the fact that this package sucks. Why? Well, it sucks. Yeah.

Not if you're saving fuel. Well, that's the problem. It's great when you're saving fuel. The only reason the third lane worked was because everyone's riding 50 and a half second, 51 second laps when they could be running a second and a half, two seconds faster a lap. Yeah. And I mean, it's worked the last race for some people. and now the entire field's doing it. So that's the only reason we were, the leaders were running 50 to 80% throttle.

So, you know, that's why the third lane was able to come alive like it did. And somebody, as soon as the third lane and we were. As soon as the leaders gassed up. As soon as we were behind Joey and we're running the middle lane. And as soon as we had a car get within three or four of us out back, we'd just push a little harder for a little bit. And we could really control that. So, but I mean, I'm, I'm guessing. I'm guessing the fans loved it.

It looked like a good race. It looked like a good race. But like it's so, I was telling people I did like a little tour thing before the race. And I was like, you're not going to see three wide today unless the two lanes. And then, but the problem like what we fell into and it was,

it was my fault as much as anybody. I did a awful job yesterday. But, um, you know, we, we would get to the front and lose track position for whatever reason. And at the end there,

like 20 to go, we were talking about it. And I'm like, everybody's going to, be wide open. The third lane's probably not going to form. But it's so hard. It's impossible. Like when you've been rewarded for being aggressive forever, like Brad's one that's been aggressive, Joey, like guys that are really good Danny are at plate racing. They're good because they're aggressive. Like they make, they make stuff happen. They can make stuff happen. Yesterday at the end

of the race, like we, we were trying to make it happen and it just there's nothing. Like, it's so hard to convince yourself that the best thing for me to do is just ride in this middle lane and let guys make mistakes and go up and like that's what it is that's all you that's all denny did danny got denny got the lucky dog he restarted back there with 20 to go and just stayed in the middle lane never moved and drove and and as we all like moved up and went around like got out of line he just picked us off one at a time and ended up fourth or fifth wherever he was third probably two were having a little lucky free pass battle hey they were how it was awesome they were having i didn't know i forgot i knew denny was a lap down i forgot the two was a lap down oh yeah so like they

were in front of us they were nose to tail we were We're pushing the third lane. We were like the first lead lap car in the top lane. And we're pushing it. And they would like, one would go to the bottom. Yeah. Jump the other one. And Bubbs are they doing?

And I'm like, and I was like, oh, they're racing for the lucky dog. He's like, oh, that makes sense. Yeah, they kept going. Denny went to the middle, got in front of the two, went back up in front of the two shot to the middle and then got stuffed there a little bit. But they were having a good little battle for a while. Now, I know Kislauski obviously didn't necessarily blame Carson. What went on with that wreck?

Did you wreck somebody? How do you blame Carson Oswar for wrecking him? I'm curious. I mean, I don't think he's really blaming him. He didn't really blame him on the radio or anything. He said he didn't think he did anything wrong. No, but. Well, Carson didn't do anything wrong if, but.

I can't wait for this. Like, you run into a car at a stoplight. We were going down to back. Why are you sitting there? So it all started on the backstretch here. We have a big run. We're a third lane. And our car is good.

We can push. We can be pushed. We can do whatever we need to. do. And we have a massive run. Well, he gets the info or makes the decision to not get a run himself and just pull up to the third lane. Like already, that's not the, like, you got to build momentum. You got like, if you're going to do that move, you need to get a run on the guy in front and you get outside of him and pull that lane. You don't get up there and stop the lane. If you get up there and stop the lane, it hurts it. It kills the lane. So he pulls up with no run,

checks us up. So Brad's like, all right, well, we do. We don't. We do. It hurts it. It hurts it. So Brad's like, all right, well, we just get right to him. So Brad's like, okay, if you're up here, this is where I think, you know, cars have anything wrong. But if you go to the third lane, how do you get to the front? Side draft, the hell out of everybody. You push. You've got to push. You got to push. You have to push. So if you're going to the third lane and you know your car is unstable, you don't put yourself in that position because you know a guy like Brad who's trying to get to the front or it doesn't matter. Bubba would have pushed him too, I'm sure. Whoever's in the second of that point. And you're going up there expecting

to be pushed. And Carson knew that his car was very unstable. And other drivers, I mean, it was kind of, I saw it a little bit, but those guys can see in the corners and things like that. And down the straightaway is what guys are wiggling a lot and stuff. And his car just wasn't very stable. And, you know, Brad didn't really know. And he got behind him was like, all right, if he's up here, he can probably take a push. So we get behind him and get ready to, and as soon as Brad got to him, he first, soon as he touched him, he just spun to the end. they turned him. So I don't think it was, you know, it's not like Brad said, I'm going to turn this guy.

He had intentions of trying to get him up there. But Carson's car just wasn't handling very well. And we ended up just turning him. Thank goodness. Ty Gibbs is okay because he took that. When he hit that inside wall, I thought like a bomb went off. Like I was like, what the hell was? Isn't it crazy?

How hard they hit the inside walls? Like, it was, that was a wild wreck. Who runs better next year? Zane Smith or Carson Smith's one? I think hosts of our. I mean, I mean, he's done a really good job. Really good job in that thing. I mean, I, and I don't think that's not a discredit to Zane.

I just think that Carson's run a little bit better. Like we've seen Zane make a couple starts and Carson made a couple starts. And Carson has run basically top 20 every race he's been in this year. And that's not easy to do in the Cup Series. No, and I don't think, and honestly, I don't feel like they're getting in, you know, when they ran them races, I feel like the equipment was very similar. Do you think it's the type of races that they're running, though? I mean, I feel like...

No, I don't think so because I've seen Carson was running really good at Darlington. Carson ran really good at Gateway. He's done. He figures it out as a race goes on. He does a really good job. And I was actually really impressed with his interview because he even got out and, I don't know if you saw it or not, he got out and said, you know, I probably shouldn't have put myself in that position.

He's gotten, he has matured a lot. The position he shouldn't have put himself in was when the field was getting ready to lap him and he was on the bottom. That's only bad position. There was a lot of... There was a handful of them that did that, though. And that's just... Ross started that. Remember Ross last year when he just put himself right in the middle of the crap?

Yeah, but... Because he was a fanning out thing. Yeah. What's the best... I mean, it looks dumb, but it's the only way to get in line. Like Denny did it. Danny did it yesterday. Well, Denny did it in the third lane, though.

He didn't do it in the middle. Right in the middle of a track. He was in probably a third lane. He was in the middle of a race track. We had to go, both lanes had to go around. Either way, if you're not against the wall, the entire field's adjusting to where you're at. You know what I mean? So what you mean?

If you want to stay in the pack and you're racing somebody, that's what you have to do. I think it was the 43 was one that we stayed, he stayed bottom and we just ate him up. I met him for the first time last night. I'd never met Eric Jones. Unfortunately. Unfortunately. I barely remember it. He's a nice guy.

Eric Jones? He's a very nice guy. Yeah, he's a good dude. I think he's my people. I wish I never saw him again. Do you even remember seeing him? Yeah. I remember every time.

I remember seeing Eric every time and I remember regretting it the next. day every time. And he's been trying, I'm going to have him come on here. We've been joking around about it a little bit, but he'll come on here. They found a little speed here lately. They've been, they've been hauled ass lately. I don't know what it is. Which is strange.

Like, I think it's so weird. I wonder. I wonder, like, obviously they put Hosevar in the 42, which is somebody that Chevy's going to have in one of their cars next year. And I wonder if that was a deal where, like, you put this kid in your car. No. And, like, you don't think that, like, Chevy's like, hey, maybe we'll give you little more help if you help us out with this kid?

Like, whatever it is, since he got in that car, the flip the, I mean, I'm not saying, I'm not saying that that's what happened. I agree with you on the speed, but I don't think that's right. It's weird that like the, how that coincides. But yeah, so anyway, Taledega. What about the

Harvard getting DQ? Cheater. I think that's in something. Well, Rodney in his text or tweet or whatever, X, whatever you call it. He kind of indicated that a bolt left the windshield, right? No, they came loose.

They loosened up through the vibration. What are the odds that NASCAR checks the bolts on a windshield? Is there, was there a sign? I feel like it's probably, what are the odds that NASCAR checks the bolts and the six cars windshield after the race? After the race? I don't think it's probably a thing. So are you implying that potentially they or somebody saw something?

I have a better question. What? If he won the race, would he have gotten disqualified? For a bolt? I'm curious why you check the bolts in a windshield. Well, because it's me, it's, this is something that people do. Like, this is like they're trying to leak air. It's, you know, this is, this is, what I'm thinking.

But I'm just asking y'all a very simple question. The bolt had silicone over the head of it. Yeah, they had silicone on it. That's why they checked. Does that mean it was tight to start with, though? Silicon better than. Now, I like silicone. Nope.

what I break go back to the I just asked a simple question you know how hard it is to check every bolt in every race car well there's a reason why they checked it is because it's an advantage like it's well I'm thinking it's something that teams have done in the past you think they check the bolt in every car in tech I mean I think they checked the twice I think they checked the top five probably every bolt every windshield yeah I think they do with the play especially at play racing because you know how much bigger tracks you know how many how much is put in the roof flaps everything

was around them for a while. And I'm not saying anything was done, but like, I believe they heavily tech those areas. But isn't it valid that because of the nature of the track and being at a super speedway, it's possible that they kind of got loose? No. I mean, if they got loose, it was intentional. Like, it was, I mean, listen, we, we, we, I love Rodney. How many players.

And the reason why Rodney's cars always go fast is because he finds stuff like this to do with him. he's one of the best crew chiefs in the garage but you know this is an advantage this is what they wanted to happen and i just i just what i would have loved to have seen if he won the race would this be the same result like it's easy to disqualify kevin harvick when he finished second yeah but if you disqualify kevin harvick after he won a race in his final season i mean uh you have to i mean you would think you'd have to i wouldn't you'd have to if you find it and it's not right it's out i think it would have it'd be interesting my guys had silicon on the threads and gobbed on the tip.

It still came out. You can't say that. That's what he said. He's indicating he did not do anything wrong. And Rodney's an honest guy. Right, which is what I was getting at is the, isn't it possible that on track something can. I mean, sure, it's probably possible. But I mean, how many plate races have we ever ran and how many windchills have come loose, Brett?

I've never seen a windshield. That's what I'm saying. Like, it's very rare. It could happen, I guess. but it's probably easier if they start loose. There's a reason why he was side by side with the guy for the leave. Their car was really good. Kevin knows what he's doing there too, though.

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Which one? Where a four is fast enough? I think he's been, I think we go to like a Martinsville. I think he could win Martinsville. I think. Man, there's a lot of stars that got to line up for that one. I don't think he's going to win the Roval. He ain't going to win Phoenix.

He's probably not going to win Phoenix. The final four, one of them guys are going to win Phoenix somehow. It's a miracle how that happens. It's weird. He chips away at it, though, and if he stays alive at Homestead, he'll be in that top six or seven, I think. He's a slow, he slowly works his way to the front every week. He just takes what's given. I hope he does win a race before his season ends, but I just don't.

I think he can win a race. I do. He's been in the ballpark. He just got to hit it right. Well, as we prepare for the Roval at Charlotte Mothers Speedway this weekend, don't forget to come check us out in the fan zone after the expeditedly race. I, if there's... I'm going to need a D-D, Casey.

If there is anything to tell us that this show will be fun to be a part of, it's this episode right here. Are you coming, Casey, to this? I am. I was invited. Did you come last year? Yes. You did? No.

Oh, you weren't there? I thought you were. Nope. That's not there. What did we do last year? You got an argument with that guy with Carson Osvar out there in a crowd, remember? You said you were going to beat his ass. We drank a bunch of beer because...

I remember Ben kept bringing us beer. You actually said you and you were going to bring Freddy with you to go down there and fight him. I would whip his ass with him. He's going to sign me up for a fight. I don't have another to do with it. Well, come hang out with us this Saturday after the expedite race at Charlotte Mother Speedway in the Phantom. Is there a time? I will hug and kiss all of you.

After the Xfinity race. As soon as the Xfinity race is over, we're sprinting to the stage. And after the show, just form a line. Brett's giving out hugs. I'm giving out hugs and kisses. Hold on. I've got a specific time. Or face punches.

No, I'm not punching anybody. No, no. I'm 18 years removed from that life. Other way around. So you're saying you wouldn't get in a fight anymore? That's a lie. I'm trying really hard not to. you're too old to be fighting by that's what i just said you're gonna hurt you're gonna hurt something i i went to

jail the last time i got in a fight i that was embarrassing i've f***ed up sorry i had to say that you can cross that word out i raced i foot raced a kid in my development last week and that was a mishore a toy i felt like i was gonna die afterwards like lungs are hammy no i was i wasn't out of breath or anything but i like probably needed a stretch or something before i did probably yeah beat him, so it's all good. But, yeah. I was a kid. Six.

13. On that note, let's move on to spot on, spot off. Spot on, spot off. Spot off. Spot off. Spot off. It was super fun yesterday to ride her out, Maren. I am spot off.

Damn. Where do you come from? First topic. Spire Mother Sports buys KBM and all of their assets for 2024. and beyond. Brett. Spot on. Spire Motorsports is making major moves in this sport right now.

And I, man, they're positioning. Listen, here's what I really want to see them do. And I don't know if it can happen because I realize OEM, tier one deals are limited. But, man, I want to see the amount of capital they're putting into the sport and into their race team. I want to see them land an opportunity to be a tier one team with an OEM because I mean, holy cow, you're talking about $70 million plus that they're putting into this. Because you can't just buy a charter, right?

I mean, you can. You bought a charter for $40 million. Well, guess what you've got to do now? Field it. You've got to field it. You've got to add people, right? You've got to do things. You don't just buy a $40 million charter and the money stop.

You have to invest more than $40 million. That $40 million was now $55 million for you. year one of that cup card. I would say at least. At least, right? There's also economies of scale where you already have two teams, right? You've got infrastructure. You've got a shop. You've got things. So you do save money there, but you're talking a $40 million investment being $55 million. You're talking a potential $25 million investment in these trucks being a $35, $40 million. So you're talking $100 plus million that Spire Motorsports has going on. Now, there's a lot of rumors around Andredi being involved in this, right?

Gainbridge more so than Andreddy. Gamebridge more so than Andreddy. Yeah, and Gainbridge is a billion dollar company, right? Meaning for sponsorship? Yeah, and Jeff Dickerson, I did not get to see what he said, and I've known Jeff for a very, very long time. We were actually neighbors at one point. I didn't get to see what he said in his little media session he did, but I did see the clip of where he and Kyle were up there talking, which I thought was ironic.

Very ironic. Because Dickerson used to spot for Kyle. He used to manage Kyle in a business manager role. much like I did with Elliot Sadler and have done with other folks. But Spire Motorsports, everything they're doing right now. I tweeted something a long time ago, a few weeks ago, rather, and it said, players make plays. And somebody text me that's a very high-ranking official with another race team,

and he's like, money makes place. Well, that's true, too. And obviously, they got money. Yeah. God bless them. Yeah, and I think they're taking their deal, which KBM is right down at road from where we're recording right now. I think they're going to move all their stuff there.

Yeah, they wanted the building. Yeah, that's, I mean, that's, that's a nice place for them. Yeah, beautiful building. Yeah, they're going to, that, that deal is just their, they're, listen, we'll see how it translates. You changed, you changed Kyle Busch's mind. Yeah, because he didn't, he just came out recently and said that he was going to keep KBM until Brexton raised, Brexton raised.

Yeah. And, and they were going to run there together. And all of a sudden, now he sells a team less than a year later. Like, it's, it's, but good for that, man. They're, like you said, it's, it'll be interesting to see how it translates to on track, but they are, they are not sparing in an event. Is this too much too quick? Not if you, not if you can get the people.

But here, here's the other thing. And you guys know this. And they're willing to get the people. I'm going to state the, I'm going to state something that. I can't wait. I don't even know if it should be stated. But when you take, and I say all the time, you know, a NASCAR driver, a Hall of Fame guy, he's not in the Hall of Fame yet, but he's been nominated.

He said to me, we have to leave the sport better than we found it. And I said to him, the sport should care that we were here. Spire, based on the things that they're doing for people like spotters, are saying we care about people. They have made it known that they are willing to get the best people. They said to me, we want one of the top five best best. spotters in the sport and they're willing to pay for it. They don't give a fuck about the RTA. They wanted three of the top five spots. And guess what they did? They put big money in front of them.

They didn't care what the RTA media. Here's the problem with our sport. And it's not just our sport. And I've told spotters this for 10 years. We need to know what each other are making in order to elevate the game that we play. Well, RTA goes, well, we're not paying more than this. Well, guess what Spires said? Yeah. Oh, they. So what does that mean? So what does that mean? mean for all of the other spotters if this is the case moving forward. It means you better get a raise. What's that saying? Rising tides, raise all ships or something like that?

Like that's, that's, everything that's, listen, we were not, oh, I, I'll take responsibility for this. There's a lot of times I watch Spire ride around in the back and it drove me bananas. This is not, that's not Spire Motorsports anymore. TJ, are you spotting off this of being too big of a move? I mean, there's a lot going on. Not to saying they can't get the right people to do it, but when you do all this stuff, there has to be results.

And it's not the way they're going. It's just a lot. I mean, it's big moves. How much better is Corey Lejoy this year than he was two years ago? Much better. Ten spots? 12 spots? I would say six to seven, but that's a big jump.

Like, people, when we say that, people don't realize what kind of jump that. Like, if I say he went from 2050, the 20th, that is a huge leap in our sport. He's anywhere in the teens now. Yeah, like he's not, he used to be a 25th, 30th place guy. And now if he's not in the top 20, it's a surprise. Yeah. I would say 13th to 20th in that area is normally, I mean, he has some better runs here

and there, but he fluctuates. But yeah, like, absolutely. It's definitely his best. He was not competitive two years ago. Fair? Will, uh, yeah, no, he was, he was, he was, yeah, he was. Is he competitive now? I mean, he was, Corey hasn't changed, but the car, like the team.

That's my point. Is he competitive now? The equipment has gone back. He's not going to win races, but he is going to be competitive. He'll have a chance to win six races. Atlanta, Talladega, Daytona. He fished fifth yesterday, right? Fourth with a disqualification.

So, great, when this team first came to be, you mentioned that this is a business team, meaning they're not out here to win races. They're not out here to win championships. What do you think has changed? We talked about it on here. They own two charters and no race cars. Right? Yes.

At one point, they owned charters and didn't even own race cars. Yes. And obviously, Jeff Dickerson and T.J. have made a lot of moves. And, man, I'm big time spot on for what they're doing on the business side of this thing. I mean, they're getting better. And I'm going to tell you what, it's really helping. It's helping the value.

This is going to sound crazy. It's helping the value of the top teams. When you have a bottom, listen, they were a bottom tier team. I don't consider them a bottom tier team. I don't consider them a bottom tier team. team anymore. But they were a bottom tier team and now they're a mid-level team and the amount of capital and amount of money they're sinking into this thing. It makes Rick Hendrick, Roger Penske, Stuart Haas, it makes all those teams and charters more valuable. I don't like obviously

I don't know enough about the business side of it to accurately comment on this, but they just sold probably they just bought the probably I would say the least valuable charter in our series. Absolutely. For $40 million. Yes. I don't know what the gap is from the least value. I think it's only like... So what does Hendrick Motorsports now work? Yeah. It's incredible.

I love it. Phenomenal. Marvelous. Hold on. I'm getting to my line here. Extraordinary, outstanding, substantial. Unparalleled. Do you have a...

Synonyms. Cinnamonns. Cinnamonns. Yep. Simons. It's phenomenal spelled right, right there. Shifting gears a bit to the truck race at Talladega. Fans called.

for NASCAR to enforce the no locking bumpers rule at the end of the truck race at Talladega after multiple cars locked bumpers on the final start without penalty. Freddie, spot on, spot off. I don't know what happened. Does somebody lock bumper? You. I wouldn't even out there. Yeah, you were.

You were spotting. I don't know what you're talking about. We were just trying really hard. Oh, okay. Did you lock bumper? Did somebody lock bumpers? Just a little bit. How do you get going fast?

You got stuck. You lock bumpers. So you hold the throttle down. And then what happens? Well, I mean, if you're by yourself, you just keep on going. I'm going to put TJ on the spot right here. He listened. TJ got caught a lot of crap last week for having an opinion, which is what podcasts do.

No, I got caught a lot of crap for somebody saying something that I did not say. You called the guy an idiot? But I never told him to run over a guy, which is what he said. I never said run over the guy. I said I think he's talented enough race car driver to move him up the racetrack. T.J. Go ahead. What's your...

Do you think... No, next question. Do you think that we should be allowed to lock bumpers in the lower series when we're at a plate track? Yeah. Thank you. This is the dumbest. I'm a dumbest rule we have in all of NASCAR. Me and Elliot Sadler tweeted about it.

Elliot Sadler and I won a lot of races locking bumpers. The way that you go... Listen, the word race means go... as fast as you can go. How do you go as fast as you can go? Lock bumpers. Holy shit. You draft. You draft. You push. Get up there and help the guy. You have got to allow these guys to lock bumpers in order to go fast. And you can't have a rule. Here's the other thing. If they had enforced no locking bumpers, the last two laps of that race, how many trucks would they have had to disqualify? Probably six. I would at least six. So then what are you going to do? Have a guy run a 12th win in the race?

it's and the thing that bothers me about it is we've seen them penalized people midrace oh you two are locking bumpers and a lot of times it's funny because they'll like the guy leading it's just leading like he can't do i mean sometimes you are dragging the break to keep locked up but like a lot of times they're just getting pushed and you both you guys both you don't have control over it but but now like we've seen this forever and like i don't i didn't even listen i never even to talk channel or not to lock bumpers because we know at the end of the race they're not calling it they've never called it at the end of the race like we've seen every race you go back i know people complained about it because it was probably mentioned on television that we were doing it but

if you go back and watch any ex fan of truck race for the last since this rule's been in place i guarantee you the guy that won the race lock bumper at some point like every time so at least half a straight away or something especially if there's a restart involved yeah if it's a green This is like telling a boxer you can't throw a right hook in the final round of the match. This rule, and TV made it look and sound even worse than it already was. Because Jamie Little, bless her heart, is on TV going, it's not allowed to lock bumpers. I don't know what NASCAR is going to do here. Well, I'm going to tell you what they're going to do.

They're going to let them race and see who wins the race. Like you're now. You're going on a limb there. As a broadcaster, and it's not her fault. She's doing her job. but you're saying the integrity of this win is in question because this isn't allowed to happen. It's like letting a wide receiver run out of bounds the whole way down the field and then come in the end zone and catch past. You can't do that.

Well, then guess what the NFL says? You can't do that. Yeah, they throw a flag. NASCAR has to get themselves out of this box and say, with five to go, we're not touching this lock and bumper rule or three to go or two. Listen, here's what they're trying to do. They're trying to prevent wrecks. And I'm all for that. And I'm all for the no lock and bumper rule in the middle of the race and whatever else you got going on.

but if you choose to enforce this rule, you're ruining the race. And if you choose to enforce the rule or not choose to enforce the rule, you're ruining the integrity of the race. You're in a really bad spot here for NASCAR. Yeah. I mean, listen, like there's no, we had nothing to lose. Yes. And you're putting guys, if you are not like guys yesterday or Saturday,

like us and Moffitt, we're only out there to win the race. Elias Sadler tweeted that when he responded to my tweet. He said the one-offs don't care. Yeah, we're going to lock up, make you make a call. Like, we're going to lock up and push. If you're pushing a full-time guy and he isn't doing anything wrong to your point, he's wide open and you're on his bumper, why should he be disqualified? And you can manipulate, like, I mean, imagine if, you know, if I'm behind, if we want to

say my teammates out there and my teammates racing this guy in the points, like, I lock on to this guy and get him black flagged, oh, perfect. Like, you know what I mean? Like, it's just, just do away with the rule because you don't enforce it at the end of the race ever. and just get rid of it. We have all won races in the top three series at plate tracks slash super speedway tracks. And T.J., me, Freddie, we all agree this is a bad rule.

Yeah, I don't. It's risky, but that's how you win. That's, yeah. I'm curious to hear what you agree on with this next topic. Continuing on the truck series race, Nick Sanchez says he got sucker punched by Matt Crafton, after the race. TJ, spot on, spot off.

There's obviously two sides of this. There's three sides. It's Sanchez's, there's Kraftin, and there's the truth. I'm spot off. If you're going to fight somebody and you're going to confront them, just confront them. If not, it's almost like you're scared of them. But Crafton says he didn't sucker punch him. So who do you believe?

I don't think you said they had a conversation. And in that conversation, Sanchez threatened him. yeah as mad is is is Matt is Matt this is just my opinion of it I think he got sucker punched because I know that that's this the guy has the race is the same way as that he just wait you know what I mean he's really he's a really smart race car driver and um so smart people sucker punch people well I just thinking I mean he got did we got accomplished what he wanted to how many times they had run-ins this year I don't know a bunch they the two of them I mean he's been in his window I've seen crafting his window talking to him

And Nick's very aggressive, but watching the accident on the track, I had a rookie guy. My guy that ran there was his fourth truck race. Okay, what is a sucker punch? Well, and the guy is not ready for it. No, that's not a sucker punch. A sucker punch is you're not looking and you get hit. I mean, is that a sucker punch? That's a sucker punch is you're not looking and you get hit.

If you're not ready for it, then that's your fault. If you're looking and you get punched in the mouth, that's your fault. I've been sucker punched. A cheap shot is you don't think they're going to hit you and they hit you. It's not like we have a, we have a, we have a, we have a, problem. But guess what? If they've had problems when Matt Crafton approaches Sanchez, which according to Matt Crafton, that's why, here's my problem. So many people on the Twitter are like, oh, this is a gross, a 40-something-year-old man punching a 20-something-year-old kid. Okay. They're both

adults. They're both over 18. That doesn't matter. The age does not matter. They're both out there racing at 200 miles an hour with their lives on the line. One of them got wrecked by the other one. I don't know who wrecked two. You can pick whichever side you want. But when you see that other guy and or that other guy is coming towards you, you're probably going to have a confrontation. Of some sort. If you see a common, though, that's why I think it was caught off guard.

Because if you see, like, if a guy's Maddieu coming up, he probably doesn't get as good as shots. There's a difference between not, if here's where I'm at, a sucker punch is your back is turned to me and I hit you from the side. Yes. That's a sucker punch. If we're facing each other, which they had to be facing. facing each other because he punched him in the nose. You're going to

cheap shot. I'm not going with cheap shot. I don't think it's a cheap shot. Because I'm not seen a video that just tells me this was a cheap shot. If you're face to face, which they must have been because he punched him in the nose, then I think that he, I don't call it a sucker punch or a cheap shot. Like if you're, if, listen, we talk about it on here all the time. If you're going to get into a fight, don't wait. My mama has never been smarter when she said, if you think you're going to get in a fight, you better hit him first or you might not get to hit him at all. Well, guess what Sanchez didn't do. So you guys are spot off for his...

Here's what I'm going to be... What he's referencing what happens, not the actual situation. Dictionary definition of a sucker punch is to punch a person suddenly without warning. That is some punk-ass definition of sucker punch from a person from a person that wrote the dictionary that's never been in a fight. Sucker punches, I don't see you punching me. Yeah, sucker punches, I'm not... Like, if you punch somebody from the side... From the back.

by the back, whatever. I've been a sucker punch twice. I know what the fuck it is and it's not in that dictionary. I'm going to sucker punch you in a bit. So here's the, here's. If I walk up to you and just as soon as you, soon as you lay eyes, I mean, my fist is already swinging.

Is that a sucker pun? If you, if you had, not by my redneck stand. Especially, I mean, if, if me and you, T.J, if me and you who don't have any differences in the world, you walk up to me and I'm just, hey, what's up, TJ, and you punch me in the face, I might consider that a sucker punch.

But we, these guys, these guys have had issues. They just had an issue. If you see this guy coming, you should know something may happen here. What did Ross do when Noah approached him? Punch him in the face. He did punch him in the face. He grabbed Ross's dominant, I mean, he grabbed Noah's dominant hand. He grabbed his right arm.

So that Noah couldn't punch him in the face with his dominant hand. Because he thought this guy may punch me. So if Sanchez is dumb enough to be looking at this guy and get punched by him and I'm surprised. Anyway, you have two stories. You have Sanchez saying, I will sucker punch. That's a lie. You have Kraftin saying, we were arguing, I don't know if that's the truth. But nonetheless, these people calling for both of these guys to be suspended

because there are people saying Crafton should be suspended for punching him. Why? We've never done that. If we do that, we look like fools. Because Ross just punched Noah on pit road in front of God and TV and everybody. And, I mean, we could go back for decades. and fighting in our sport. And here's the weird thing about our sport fighting

is we don't always have officials present in the moment, right? In hockey, they're in the middle of the ring. And football, they're in the middle of the field. In baseball, they're all in the mound together, right? In this situation, there's no NASCAR official there. I didn't see one of the video. Just Corey Roper. Which I'd have been the first guy to punch if I'd have been Sanchez,

because let me go and let me finish getting my ass beat or let me hit this dude at least once. That's why I think it was a surprise. deal because if they're wrestling, you're pulling them apart. Damn, uh, you ain't wrestling. I ain't wrestling. Well, I'm just saying if you're getting in a fight, guys are, I ended up on the ground after the punch. Guys are pulling you away from each other. And they were. But it doesn't seem like Crafton was there and gone. You know what I mean? Crafton had three people on top of him when he was trying to crawl away and he was still standing there.

Everybody's like, oh, that's what I'm saying. They didn't have to pull them apart. It was like one hit. If you're calling for a suspension here, you're a candy ass. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, this is it. Who doesn't know what the real world's like. Honestly, we've never seen a suspension for punching somebody. But what you cannot do is get up out of a fight and go, I'm going to kill you at Homestead. That's no good. Like, you can't.

I get it. But that also doesn't warrant a suspension. No, I mean, I don't think you should. Because it don't mean you're going to kill him. I mean, I'm just saying you can't say that. I don't think. But it would be something else. If Sanchez got punched in the face, I dotted up, broken nose,

and then he's the one that gets in trouble because he said something. stupid. So what did, what did you think about the wreck? I, listen, so I don't, I mean, I think it's Krafton's fault. But I, you know, I, Nick was aggressive, but it's, it's, if I'm wrong, it's within 10 to go, right? It was, it was, yeah, it was six or seven to go. It was a green white checker. So, so, so, I mean, you, you, you moved up off the bottom and he didn't move you, he didn't, he didn't, he was there and you came back. You left enough room for his truck to get there. Yeah. I mean, you You could easily make the argument of, you know, it's kind of overaggressive. But listen, this is the end of the race that you're going for.

You've got to jump lanes anytime you can. I mean, if you're, if the only way to make progress is to get through the middle and the guy in front of you leaves it open, how are you not going to drive in there? I would have drove in there. Are you not going to pass the guy? You're going to follow him. I'm cram in the middle. Exactly.

And I preach to this kid, you know, I had Jake Drew and I say, all day, I'm like, do not leave enough room between you and the bottom truck because if you do, they are driving through there. Yeah. and he did a great job all day. To me, to me, I watched a replay and Matt got a little high. He was falling the trucks in front of him, but he drifted up just a little bit too much.

And I think he realized it, and when he realized it, Nick was already there. And I'm going to go and tell you, he would have drove in that hole himself. Matt would have. We started right in front of him on the initial start. He put us three wide on the very first lap.

And if my guy would have went to the highest third lane to block it, We would have been up on the high side. I'll buy ourselves. We were in the middle stuck, but I knew we would eventually get help in the middle and not lose as much ground. But he, all these guys are going to drive through that. If you leave the door open in the truck series,

even the Cup series, I mean, if you left the door open, bubble force four wide yesterday at one point, late in the race, and the door was open, and he took it. I mean, you know. Which hurt us, but.

So if, and listen, we're not in charge. I wish we were. Imagine that. That'd be fun. Do you suspend Mike Crafton or Nick Sanchez? I don't think you suspend either one of them. I don't. I think you do the old bring them in the hall our next race,

which they don't race again for a month. I think they go to homesides their next race. Yeah. His interview, though, Casey, I don't know. Did you see Sanchez's interview by chance? Where he said they glued my face back together,

and I think I got a broke nose. I mean, and then the PR lady jumps in going, we're not answering that. Like, it was the best, one of the best Talladega Night moment interviews in our, in our history.

I actually, well, you probably, I thought Nick did a good job in the interview. You probably can't say if Nick going back next time you get punched in the face, while there's blood leaking out of every hole in your face, don't say you're f***ing with the wrong guy because apparently that didn't correlate at that point in the day. Like he f***ed with the right guy in his side of it. Yeah, he definitely.

That's why I think it was a sneak attack 100% because Nick was awfully mad. I just, I don't know. how it could be a sneak attack when you punch, if the side of his head was bleeding. For me to hit Freddie, like, from behind, I got a swing like this. And I can't hit him but so hard. I mean, they say that Matt went back

and changed and was hanging out, like, in amongst the people. You know what I mean? Like, he wasn't in his fire suit anymore. He went back and changed. And I'm going to be honest. To me, that's how Matt. So if he'd have been in his fire suit, you feel better about this. It is Bernard's yellow. I know. I think you would see.

You can sneak up old shit with that color. No, you're not sneak up. up on anything with that fire. Casey, would you suspend MacCrafton? You're a mother, you're a lady. You're very distinguished. I would not if NASCAR wants to be consistent. Oh, there you go. Tell them, Case. But I will say everybody's different, right? Like, there's just two sides to it. And I know that there's other camera angles that they're probably looking at. This is the best thing to happen to a truck series since Ron Hornaday was still racing. And by the way, there's more video of this out there because everybody there had a phone out.

I've seen two angles. There's got to be more. Well, NASCAR also has cameras in the garage. So there's more that they're probably looking at. But I guess we'll find out. Oh, with 40-to-go, Jeff Burton says it's impossible to understand what lane to be in with the entire pack three wide. Is that true from a spot-or standpoint, spot on, spot off, Brett? Well, the only person who really had an opportunity here in my mind to make a lot of moves was the car in the middle lane that has. had an option to pull up in front of the top lane.

And then if you're one of those front two cars in all three rows, you got yourself in a decent position. But whenever that top lane had to fade, the bottom two lanes just simply applied more throttle to TJ's point earlier. They started pushing harder and the top lane went away. This is that the, I never thought I'd say these words and I tweeted it yesterday. The best racing we saw all day was when we were saving fuel. Like that's how bad this package is.

for Talladega, which is not only four lanes wide that T.J. mentioned that Bubba made it one point. But is that really a bad package? It was five lanes wide. This package sucks. This package sucks. This package sucks. Do you not think it sucks? I mean, it sucks when you're wide open. It's hard. Yeah. That's what I'm saying. At the end of the race. And here's my, here's why I say it sucks. You guys say, oh, Brett's a, always negative. You're not wrong. But for the last 13 laps, I never once was able to clear Chandler Smith. Yeah, we couldn't clear anybody either. We could not get clear to make a move to save our lives. We were stuck on the bottom, fifth or sixth in line, pushing. All that I'm able to give him is information to help him push. Listen, you guys know this.

If you hit bumpers, you get squarely, you have this big accordion effect, right? If you're in the front two cars, you can get tandem. You can make your line really get a lot of momentum. But if you're fourth and fifth in line and you start banging the car in front of you, it screws the whole line up, right? So all that I'm able to do for 13 laps is help him manage gaps. Not once could I say clear how you can get up. We were never clear.

You can't move. You're stuck. That means this package blows. Where did you finish? 11th. You know why you finished 11th? Why? Because you couldn't move.

Because if you could move, you would have finished 25th like I did. I'd have been moving. I'd have been moving. We have, me and Bubba have worked so hard at being, and we've been rewarded for it in the past of being aggressive, making a third lane doing. And that was our downfall yesterday. I couldn't,

it was my fault. I blame Bubba if you want. But like even at the end, we were probably mid-pack, I don't know, 15, 16th. You guys tried to third lane a lot. And we,

and we, and we tried, there was a five or six car group out there. Bowman was leading it. And I'm like, okay, if we get clear, let's go.

And we went up there with coming to the white. I mean, I'm talking, we came to the white leading the top lane and ended up wrecked in the middle, finishing 23rd, 24th, wherever it was. Yeah. Like, the best thing that could have happened to you was being locked in that lane because you were forced to do what you needed to do. It's impossible for me, like, just knowing what I've, like, what we've done in the years

past of a new same way, aggressive, DJ, like things, like, the reason why guys are good of this is because they're aggressive, their spotters are aggressive, whatever it is. And the aggression yesterday is what, hurt you. Like if you just, the best thing to do is just sitting at middle lane and ride there and guys would pull up and you'd get one at a time and just Danny, I talked about earlier. Danny did it from from the lucky dog spot to fourth or third wherever he finished in the race. And, and that's all he did. He just got the middle lane and like he talked about. He said if it wasn't a playoff race, he would have been doing what we were doing, trying to make a third lane, try to make

stuff happen. But when you see you're gaining points on guys around you that you need to gain on, now that you just stay in that middle lane and keep picking it off. I don't want you guys to get mad me for saying this, but there was a point when I think I was a highest paid guy on the roof, and I literally went after that money because I thought I was one of the best super speedway spotters in the sport. And yesterday, I felt like I was worthless the last 13. I was, I did, that was by far the worst race I've ever spotted at a plate race. But just, but just because I was trying to do what I've always done, and it hurt us. But according to Jeff's poll, as of right now, 87% of the fans felt that yesterday's race was a good race.

That's because we were saving fuel. Yeah. Right, but at the end, with all of those passes and how it was really hard for a car to get the lead as much as it has been in the past. I mean, don't you think this package also gears towards the fans? I don't. I think the package sucks. Here's who did the best job yesterday as a team, Casey, is front road motorsports.

The 34, the 36 and the 38, they worked exceptionally well together all day. and they put themselves in position as a team. I mean, I remember being Stuart Haas. We ran one, two, three, four all freaking day. It felt like, like as a team, front row did the best job yesterday. Shout out to Riley. Riley did a really good job yesterday. I will say it when Riley got to lead.

Riley was not saving fuel, I don't think. I don't, why would you? Yeah, I mean, no. Who cares? He did a good job. Yeah, and I'm not saying, yeah, he did a great job. Riley did. He did really, like, solid all day.

And we were able to go to the third lane when Brad wanted to in that second state. We were able to go to the third lane and get up to the front and get track position that way. But at the end, it's still super hard to make the big moves. Super Speedway should not be about saving fuel and track position. No. We should be able to pass. You know, I don't know. The cars are very stable by themselves.

They are. But when you're pushing, like our car was really good. And like I said earlier, we could take pushes. We could push. Like we got behind Joey and Joey couldn't. He told us, and he asked Brad to, hey, no tri-oval and no corners, please, because my car is, I'm out of control. Yeah, we were super dardy too.

Yeah, well, Brad, I'm saying, Randis de Coleman, and Brad's like, oh, he looks fine, tell him not to be so nervous. That's what he's driving. Yeah, he said, nah, he looks good. Tell him not to be so nervous. But I wish the cars were harder to drive by themselves, where you could, where you got to come off the throttle. Like at Daytona, them guys are lifting out of four on the bottom sometimes.

because the tires wear out. And it's, I mean, how many wrecks are. But tires are never going to wear out, Talladega. I mean, they did. They did? Yeah, but it's not like. You're never going to have. Handling has never been a big thing at Talladega. Yeah.

Okay, I'm tied off of two. Okay, I'm whatever. But like handling has never made you not run wide open at Talladega. Yeah. No, no, it's definitely the easier the two plate. Daytona, yes. Oh, yeah. Talladega, no.

It's a much tighter. Wider, wider, more banking, a lot of differences. Bumps and stuff. They're way different tracks. Yeah, 100%. spot on spot off did harvick give it away at the end of the cup series race fredi i have no idea did he give it away i was run 24th just give it away i was actually going to get the car for carelli so i saw you i saw you sitting at the bottom elevator that was nice yeah i had a lot he's he's got bad knees so i went and got

the car for him yeah what did it look like anybody got a replay or i mean if harvick gave it away it it wouldn't matter because he was i don't think he gave it away well what he would have a legal Yeah, I mean, I don't think he gave it away. That was just, I think Blaney shot to the bottom. What's he going to do? Blaney had a run. He was going to go to one side of him or the other. I don't know.

And they went side by side across the line. He lost by what? A couple feet? 07. Yeah, so. 0.07 seconds. I don't think it's ever giving it away because you don't know who's going to go with who. If you block Blaney to the bottom and he's moving with you,

I know what doesn't work very well is two cars changing lanes hooked together. That does not work. work very well. Blaney and Josh do a really good job at plate tracks. I don't know how many wins that is for Blaney to Talladega. Blaney just has three wins. He has a knack for being, timing that run perfect almost every time. And I know like he's good at being in them positions, but to me, you know, there's a lot of

things have to play out just right. Like they have to fall in place in your mirror. And it has. And he's done a really good, he's done a really good job being in a position where he can get some help at the end. Maybe the biggest win of his career because it may end up putting him into the final four. You never know. We know he's locked into the next round. I didn't want to see him. Blaney barely got clear to get there. Like that was a that was a big move. In the three. Yeah, because he just barely gets clear by him. Yeah, he does barely clear him. And then yeah,

good job by Blaney. Good job by Josh. Yeah. I wonder how many wins they got in the future. I bet Josh didn't clear him right there. Oh, no, I think you can clear him there. I mean, he's probably moving before me. Oh, yeah. He did the whole move for you. He, yeah, all right, now you're clear. But Blaney knows what he's doing there. So, oh, 100%. Well, let's move on to the DBCA Main, where we have plenty to talk about. We're not, me and Brett are going to talk about dirt this week. That's, actually, I was going to cue it to you. Please, please share. Give us an update. I heard more Scott Bloomquist stories last night than I've ever heard of my life, and I loved every one of them. Because I think Blumquist is like the modern day Tim Richmond of the dirt world. Oh, God.

And I just want to say... I don't think Tim Richmond could hold Scott Bluquist. No, he can't hold a candle to this guy. No. This guy's... Yeah, shout out to Kyle Strickler, the high side tickler. Yeah, Freddie introduced me to him last night. I know what you're thinking already.

Freddie introduced me to him last night. He goes, this is Kyle Tickler. And I was, oh. I said Kyle Strickler. Jesus, I got to get back to him. Yeah. Sorry, Kyle Strickler. And I'm like, oh, I know this guy.

We have some great racing names. Kyle Strickler. That's one of the best. The Dirtler. Dirt World does the best. We got the Love Machine. I mean, we got Love Machine. Shout out to the Love Machine.

Let every lap. Let every lap in Salem, which is unbelievable. Like, I don't even know how that happens. Well, nobody passes him. I've always wanted to go to Salem. I said that last night. I've always wanted to go to that trip. Yeah.

It's a cool track. There's a, I've never been to. No, I've never been to like Berlin, Salem. Those are all my. I've been all, like I did a full year of ARCA and I got to go to Salem and Winchester. Oh, Winchester. Oh, that's a cool track. Yeah.

Because I'm telling, man, all the tracks I've been to, Pensacola was, man, it's right up there. Like, that's a great flags. Yeah. That's snowball, right? That's a great race track. Uh, I want to go. Like, if you, like that place, you wouldn't believe Salem and Winchester. Yeah. Like, it blows that place. You're going to spot the snowball derby then? No. Hey, you want to go? Yeah. I might go. I know somebody needs a spotter. Uh-uh. I want to go. I don't necessarily want to work. I don't, I don't know if you know this is about it. So really funny story about Snowball. I don't want to get too sidetracked here, but I've been going with Krause for like the last, I don't know, 10 years probably, it seems like.

So this, and I've kind of been wanting to stop going. It's like our second off weekend. I'm like, I just don't want to. Is it that early? No, it's like, it's my second off weekend because I go modified racing forever. But also the thing starts like on Wednesday. So you're there. You got to be there all week.

Just show up and race. So can I get in on the house deal? Yeah, you get a spot. Herm's looking for somebody to go. Yeah. Didn't Bobo say he wants to run? No, no, just. Yeah.

So. So that's where I'm riding a fan down there either. You don't have to. They'll just. So here's what I want to do. I want to make plans. Are you going to snowball this year? I don't know yet.

When is it? It's the first week of December. First weekend of December. So college football's done. Yep. It's a cool man. It's done for the Gamecocks already. First weekend of December.

First week. So it's like the third or fourth maybe? I think I want, can I get my own room or do I got a share of all you guys? I get my own room. It's like a six bedroom house. Oh, yeah. It's a nice house. No, Herm probably got the mask.

Herm. I think I'm in. I need to get with Herm on this. I talked to Herm yesterday for a while. So I decided this year, I'm like, I'm not going to Snowball. Like, Krause, sorry. Oh, you're not going? I love you.

I'm not going. Oh, wait. But then, but then. So listen, it gets worse. Hold on. It's getting better. So we go on a yearly trip with Wyndham and Tyler and our friend Brian and their wives and girlfriends.

And so I'm like, you know what? Let's just book the trip that week. So I can't go to snowball. Like, because every year I'm like, I'm not going. I'm not going. And then I go. So this year I'm like, I'm not going. Just book the trip.

We're going that weekend. I'm like, all right. I go, we made the playoffs. Bubba had us over the house. The Sunday of Saturday Night Race Sunday, we go to the house and he's like, hey, I've run snowball this year. And I'm like, I said, well, guess what? I'm not doing it.

It's going with you. I already booked the trip. So Bubba needs a spotter? Bubba. I don't know if he's got his deal done yet, but I think he, I'll do the race only. Race only. He probably don't want you to spot. He's probably hurt enough of your mouth.

that's probably accurate. I'll do race only for Bubba. I will not do. Even when I did Johanna, I didn't. Well, the best part, Brett went to do Johanna is the year that, did you do the flake to? Yes. The year that they ran the flake at like 3 o'clock in the morning. Remember that?

I got back to my condo and the sun was coming up and I had to go immediately, took a shower, laid down for an hour, right back to the racetrack. That doesn't sound fun. It wasn't fun. I do enjoy that race. But I was race only. I do race only deal because then I can have fun all week. Hopefully they change the way you practice.

I guess they got this for you. You can have fun to matter of way. Hopefully they change the way you practice there because all them guys that park in turn one that just back out and budge the line. That is a good deal. No, that is a terrible deal. If that's not fixed,

I'm definitely not going back. He was so mad. He was parked at the start, finish like waiting to go out and we all were down to turn. We'll just back it out and go ahead. They would drive to their pit stall, which is down there. And then everyone else is getting in line.

They would literally back up and just pull out on the track and everyone else is still waiting. But they only let a certain amount of cars on the track at one time. So those guys, and they're all the big money cars that are already fast. And we're back there. It's us, Majeski. Yeah, it's all the guys that are already really good.

You're giving them more practice. It's the dumbest I've ever seen. They should park all them guys in turn four. I agree. Like the guys that run it and win it all the time. Mike them waiting line. Yes. Yeah.

It's the dumbest shit. TJ was so bad. I was laughing my ass. Yeah. Whoever that official is that we had that little group of me. I don't, who was it? Nick Rogers. Yeah, Nick.

Fix that. I thought we were talking about dirt racing. Oh, yeah. Sorry. Yep. To hell with Kyle Strickler, who may still, may or may not still be sleeping in the back of my truck. I haven't looked this morning. He woke up on the wrong side of the truck bed.

He woke up on the wrong side of the crew cab. But what happened in the dirt world this week, Casey? A lot happened in the dirt world. We've got a win by Brent Marks and... That's a big one. That's a national open. Weak as well at Williams Grove. Yeah.

And I mean, there's plenty. I need to come up. Coming up this week, we've got Millbridge, Wednesday, Saturday, Tuesday for the little kids. We've got Royal. Millbridge is fun the week of Charlotte. It's fun all the time, but it's really cool week of Charlotte. I wish we could do the dirt races at Charlotte after our cup season. I know it's a little cold, but I wish we could go to that stuff.

The World Finals down here. It's always Phoenix Race Weekend. Yeah, I'm going to go whatever. It's Thursday night. Are the outlaws running or something? Yeah. They run Thursday night? Yeah.

Oh, yeah. I'll probably go. I wish they would move that to one. Listen, our schedule, it used to be when we were in Texas, the championship would be at Charlotte-Mars Speedway. Now I wish they'd move it back a week so that NASCAR's off. Yeah. I'd love for World of Outlaws.

Shout out to Justin Grant. One, BC39. Our friends at Noss. I was there. Shout out to everyone who I met a lot of Journey Mo fans out the track. Indie does it great. Justin won? Grant.

Yeah, that's my buddy Gavin. Lugano's buddy there. He comes a lot of races. He's a big Justin Grant fan. Yeah, they did a great, it was a, they did a great job at that track. I'll tell you more about that in a little bit. I can't not say it.

All right, well, as always, you can catch our show every Wednesday, and plenty of dirt racing coming up this weekend. Moving on to Reaction Theater. Well, I know it's been a few weeks, but how about that black cloud over that 12 car now, Brett.

What do you go to him? I love it. I love that. I can hear the splashing in the background. I can hear the splashing in the background. You Blaney fans enjoy your hot tub. Okay, these next guys call in five times. Do we have all five calls? No. I think this is the best one.

Hey, you have, Amy Mill. We're just about 65 southbound. And from the Ark of Monarch, Salem, 200. We're death and a low. was where Greene and Checkard Got the Winning the hat

Had he signed it Just a loo Mess on stage Go Brett He's speaking drunk Yeah Jesse Lou People yelling

From the back In the back seat That guy Jesse Lou I saw a picture Somebody tweeted me I'm assuming He was this guy

Tweeted a picture of He had him Signed the hat Jesse Love Next on stage Jesse Love Does he have any like anything that he does when he wins

races, does he ever get out? You want to strip? Wow. No, that's not what I was thinking, Freddie. Good Lord. No. I mean, you can get out and make the little heart thing. Oh, my God.

If he ever does that, I'm not a friend of this. I have no. I think that. Let's get out. Let's get out with the race. Are you kidding me, T. Well, you could also. I think I think he should get out,

get on the roof and just start dancing. Like just suit off the whole deal. Just PR lady is going to bring a pole out there. Yeah. Like there's an invisible pole. He used to bring a brat of flag. Just bring Jesse a pole.

Just bring him a pole. Sit it up. Please don't do that. And I will be sure. I'm just saying, does he have a something that he does. I mean, he should. He should have something he does. Jesse love.

Yeah, Jesse love. Jesse love. He's a kid, guys. No, he's not. Here we go with that kid. So if he gets in a fight, he's not an adult. He's not a kid.

He's actually considered a lover, not a fighter. See Jesse on clinching. Casey, can you say it right? Jesse Love. That Arka championship. We single-handedly, we single-handedly Casey made Jesse Love famous. And he is a huge fan of this show.

It's not winning all those races. It's the fucking podcast. Once he came on the show, I mean, his career took off. Yeah. Filled it full of love. All thanks to Bright Garfin. That car runs on love. It's not because of me.

car runs on love. That's what he needs to do. Do you love love? Who doesn't love love love? He doesn't love. Jesse Love. Jesse Love. If he don't,

he should put the name on his roof, LU and 7 Vs. I'm telling you right now. I'm going to have Chad do that for his micro. When we run the, when he runs the micro, I want LU and 7 V's across the I have an idea.

When he runs a sprint car instead of his love on the front of the wing, just do like the lobe machine. I have an idea. It's probably bad. I'm willing to fund. Do I need to leave for a second? I'm willing to fund this idea.

Oh. We go to a strip club. Nope. And we do a full-blown photo shoot with Jesse. With Jesse Love. Wait. You're paying stage? I'll pay for the whole thing.

I'll pay for the camera or the good time. The photographer. The talent. I'll pay the talent. The strip club will be open. Yeah. Are you paying for peppermint or? Spearmint?

Yeah. I'll pay for it. Do we need to add this to a segment in Vegas? I'm in for this. Yes, it'd be even better if we do it at Vegas weekend. Yeah. Is he out there? He's running, he's running a truck somewhere.

Maybe I think it's. He can't. How old is you got to be to get into them establishments? 18. Yeah, 18 to get in. Thank God the shark lounge closed. That place had to be impressive with SDDs. Yeah, what are you?

I mean, I'm not that I'm mad that it closed, but I mean, I think a lot of people like that. I see some there that I can't ever ever, ever. I never went. What? No, I never win. I'm not mad about it either. What about Biggins? Remember that one?

I went to Biggins. Biggins is still open. Biggins is the one where you take your own drinks. Yes. I win the Biggins. Talk about efficiency. I know where this shoe came from. Next caller, I don't even know what number we're on anymore.

We've got a lot more, too. Jesse Love. You know, I used to think I had a great disdain for Demi and Hamlin. Now I realize I fucking hate MacCraft, and he's a lot. little. Jeez. All right. I get why.

I like Crafton. I think Crafton's amazing. I think that people have, I think people believe Nick Sanchez. Yeah. You're choosing which side of the story to believe. Yes. If I was, if I looked like Nick Sanchez did after that fight, I'd say the guy sucker punched me too.

I have a feeling your comments would be very similar to Nix if you got sucker punched. Out of nowhere. It was, it can't be out of nowhere. I'm just saying, like, if you weren't expecting it and somebody did that. You know, growing up, we had a saying, is either you're as useless as tits on a four or useless as tip on a chicken. I think I'm going to change that saying. You're as useless as Corey LaJoy with a fast race car.

Damn. What? What? I've seen some tweets that Corey. Did Corey start that? I've seen a couple that said he was the cause of it. I haven't seen a replay. I haven't really seen enough.

I guess I could wish one, Andrew. Did you send us that video? Is that the whole finish? Yeah. Let's watch the show. In live time, we're going to watch this finish and see if it's all. Can you put it on the screen? No.

See if it's all Corey Lejoice's fault. So Blaine he's leading. Where is Corey? Oh, he's third one in the top lane. Let's see. You have a privacy screen? I'm still trapped on the bottom. Nope, same thing.

Same as Sanchez and Crafton. Riley opens the door a little bit, it looks like to me. Riley moves a little. Riley moves a little to his right and Corey plugs the middle. Oh, hang out. And Riley comes back down. who? Where was it?

I don't think there was big enough hole there. I mean, he's inside of him. So I looked at it on SM. Let's see. I mean, he turns them, but it's same thing.

Riley kind of wavers a little bit. You're not lifting in that scenario. No. And if there's a hole in front of you, coming to a chair, you're going through it. Yeah, I'm driving through it.

I don't think anybody. But listen, I mean, the guy finished fourth or fifth. Like, what do you want to do? It's going to be hard to tell him he did something wrong. Yeah.

It's going to tell you. Riley was in what car? 36. 30, I mean, obviously it's Stuart Hoss car. Yes. So obviously the forge were fast. Yeah.

He did a good job. He did a really good job yesterday. Yeah. He had the bull spotting for him. Yeah. Who's that? Brian. Brad's brother.

Oh, nice. His nickname was the bull back in the day, Parker racing and stuff. I got something to say to Freddie and Brett. Y'all paying attention? Bucking the Taylor Smith in the garage. this weekend. I asked him if y'all were spotting for him.

He was like, yeah, how did you know? That they speak about you on door bumper clear every week. His reply back was, they talk about me on door bumper clear? Usually. You might want to check y'all's drivers to see the fact he don't even listen to your show, apparently. Oh, he listens. Oh, he listens. He also is a punk.

He is a punk. He talked about Big Ows on the radio. and wanting chicken wings and on the plane wanting chicken wings. Have me send Freddy a video about going to Big Owls and then he comes in and gets food to go and leaves. Yeah, he was there for six seconds.

He's on my... Oh, he bailed. He didn't even bailed. He called it a rain check. Yeah. You don't give rain checks to Big Al. You go, you're committed if you get there. Yeah.

Yeah, I think you're committed if you actually go and get there. Kids these days. Speaking of wings, did you see the new mixture drink you can they're pushing in buffalo no yeah so apparently you put hot sauce in your Pepsi and stir it with a piece of celery it's disgusting looking but Pepsi yeah Josh Allen pours a Pepsi and then pours a good bit of buffalo sauce in there speaking of disgusting drinks guess one of our one of our good stories shut down in Texas last week I found out no old redneck heaven it did it did so me and freddie were in redneck heaven a long time ago and we sat down Andrew and we were there for probably

seven, eight minutes and no server ever came to the table. And I called the store. I literally look up the phone number and I call and I'm like, you know, they're like, hello shredding at Kevin. I was like, hey, my name is Brett Griffin. Can I speak to a manager? And they're like, yeah, no problem. Put a manager on the phone and I said, he goes, hey, you know, what's going on?

I said, hey, me and my buddy are sitting here in the middle of your restaurant and we can't get a server. Is there any chance you could bring me a drink? And he like starts looking around and I start waving at this guy. And he's like, holy cow, man. sorry. And so he came over and he was like, what can I get y'all to drink? So just so you know, Brett's always been in a s'clock. So the server comes over and she's like, I'm so sorry. And I'm like, we're going to tip you well. Just bring us drinks. But if you're ever in a restaurant,

you can't get help calling us to a manager. RIP, redneck heaven, because it was, it was the fun of stuff. Wonder what happened? Uh, man, me. You are probably the reason. Yeah, they probably went that business that week. Service sucked. That's what happened. All right. All right. Keep going. Yeah, Austin Dillon sucks, and he needs to hang it up. And I'm glad for Ryan Blaney and hopefully all the guys in the hot tub, maybe have diary in there and hold Austin Dillon. Jesus God.

Underneath the water. Tyree in a hot tub? And then hold the guy's head underwater, he said. I'm going to tell you all something, man. Austin Dillon, when he finds a wall, holy cow, does he hit it hard? Yeah, that's what I was going to say. listen, thanks for the call-in, but maybe if you, let's send you into the wall, like Austin hit and see if you get mad at it,

you know, and Austin, obviously Austin saw some things during the race, you know, on how the cars were driving and stuff and knew that that was a really bad scenario to put that to be. And he got, he was an innocent bystanderness, but I don't blame him for, I mean, dude, if one of us, if we were under that wall, we're going to probably be pissed too. Did I mention this package sucks? Just a few times. Okay, just sure. Thankfully, everybody was okay, because some,

of them guys hit pretty hard right there. That was, I mean, when you have wall repair, if it's necessary, it means there was a very hard hit. I thought we were flipping at one point sliding down there because I saw the car pick. I'm like, oh. Well, and I saw Gluck tweeted that had you started flipping, he was afraid your car would wouldn't end. I was worried about that.

It started lifting. I'm like, oh, and then. So I'm going to tell you, if that's the case, they've got to put a fence. You got to fence that. Yeah. You can't not fence that. We almost, I was really worried about hitting the inside wall where it comes out for this.

I mean, we were aimed. We were aimed. of just right for it and you're in that slide you know that slide where you feel like you feel like you feel like you have 20 seconds and you're like oh there's that wall there just waiting for it and it's like it's just like we teed uh we teed a couple racetracks up last week for places that need revamped talladega is on that list for me now i walked around some and yeah it needs it needs some it needs some upgrades it's time and that is a that is one of my favorite sporting venues in all of america that i've been to and i've been to probably 100 uh it's time for uh make a little nicer

With Blaney's win, we got a few more hot tub calls. Oh, boy. A, DBC, long-time caller, first-time fan. Just got a few questions. Are the Blaney fans finally out of the hot tub or the shower? And are the Harvick fans now in the shower? Now, obviously, with the age difference of those fan bases, they shouldn't be in the shower together.

But I just want to make sure those Harvick fans are okay. We're going to get through this. I don't think the hot tub's emptying yet. Yeah, I think the hot tub is just on round three right now. Yeah, I think great time to get a win because nobody wants to go into the roval. Like me and you don't want to go into the roval where we're at right now. Yeah, no, no. So, but, you know, it is what it is.

We've got to go and do the best we can, but the hot tub's probably not emptying. Hot tub's rocking. The hot tub is rocking. Last call here. Hot bam for Y. but just a question since he got the wind, does that mean that there's like a giant orgy

in the hot tub now? How does that work? Speaking of French ticklers. I think the funniest thing I seen yesterday was I don't remember who it was, but can you say orgy on the podcast? Yeah, probably.

I'm going to take that one back and ask. Yeah, he's going to write that one down. That one's going to the PR team. That one's going back to the shop. Can't say. Did you see? I think the words yes. The orgy?

I think I should be the final saying. All right. Yeah. We'll just. You are probably the reason why everything has to be reviewed. Could you imagine if Mike Davis gave me the range to what makes the show and what does it? So I have a very, did you see this quote yesterday from Blaney about Dale Inman? Yes.

Dale Edmund is one of legendary best people in the garage. Like if you get a chance to sit, luckily when I was in the 43, I got to sit every Sunday afternoon and talk to Dale Edmund. Yeah. But did you see his quote yesterday about, so they asked Blaney why he doesn't do burnouts? And Blaney said, because Dale Inman told me, you don't ever see the, the guy went to Kentucky Derby and get off and beat the of the horse to you. I was like, that is one of the most

Dale Inman things to ever say. Yeah. As soon as he said it, I was like, I get it. I understand it. So, you know, when they went to Kentucky Derby the guy, the jockey don't get off and beat the of the horse, does he? Yeah. Like, that's, I don't know. I mean, I can hear him saying that.

In the truck race, one jockey beat the other jockey. We were in the hauler one day. I would love to see a jockey orgy. I mean, like a jockey fight. Not a jockey orgy. I want to see a jockey. All the jockey is just in a cage match. Inman.

We were in the hauler one day and Inman's in there with Richard. He don't like my idea. And Richard said he had to go to an appearance or something. He's like, I got to go all the way around the track. It's hot out, whatever. And Dale just said, I'm sorry I made you so famous. That was like my favorite thing of Dale. He's the only person that could give Richard.

Right. Like, nobody else on the planet could give the king. except for Dale Edmund. That's awesome. Andrew quit. Casey, you're still lost. You said or you left. Is there another call?

No. No, we're done. No, all right. No more orgies. Oh, don't forget to call 704, 802-92572 to send us an audio message. I'm sure we'll get a few more tub messages. Do not call us during your orgy? Jesus.

Do you realize what you just said? Do you realize what you just said? Do you know what you said, though? What did I say? Yeah, a minute ago, y'all. I loved to see a jockey orgy. Why didn't mean that? I'm in a jockey cage match.

Orgy in a cage match. The Freudian slip. Okay, we'll have an orgy in a cage. How about that? Is that better? I don't think that's legal. Oh, my God. Andrew had to go to the bathroom.

That scares me a little bit about this conversation. What is what an orgy's like? We start talking about jockey orgies and Andrew ran to the bathroom. We're getting way off topic. Let's move on to AskDBC. Send in your questions on Twitter each week using hashtag AskedGee. You're all right. Why are you sweating?

Casey, there won't be a show next week. You don't have to tell them to send anything. I tried really hard to keep this going. Andrew comes out with a shirt untuck. Yeah. We know why he went in the bathroom. Yeah, I mean, just sweat. I mean, the guy runs Iron Man to come out of the bathroom.

You know what happened is? He tried one of them ED things. Here go again. Oh, this first question is from Dylan. If any of the spotters dated Taylor Swift and had a bad breakup, what song would Taylor write about them? I don't even understand it. And I'm going to add to this question of the spotters that you have on the spotters

stand, which one would date Taylor Swift? Which one would or which one could? Could date Taylor Swift? Swift. Well, because you know how Taylor Swift? Like, whenever she breaks. Maybe. Yeah, I think Denny hung out with her at one point. Right? I don't know. Google that. Whenever Taylor Swift dates someone and they break up, she like writes a song about. Yeah, I don't know who. So she's going to write song about a tight end? Oh, God. There's already TikToks of people writing songs with like forecasting the breakup.

She was at the game again yesterday. She was all about it. That's why they threw the flag. Travis Kelsey Travis Kelsey's making her famous He's a gold digger Travis Kelsey is a gold digger Is she the most famous person Right now in the world? Yes

I think I've heard they've had Earthquake type behavior around her concerts Maybe we should start doing segments of the show based like the broadcast last night There is a TikTok out there

Where this guy is obviously torturing his wife And she's obviously probably Big Taylor Swift fan And he's got a camera set up and he's like, he's watching football. And he's like, he's like, this is unbelievable. This girl's just piggybacking off of Travis Kelsey's fame.

Like he's like, and she's like, what? And she gets, you know, she gets, it's like, Megan Lidsinger. Like it would be like, good. Singer's a biggest. Yeah. And like, like, you know, she's just, she's just, she, and the guys, she's like, do you know who Taylor Swift is? He's like, I don't care.

This guy's the best tight end in the league, you know? And she's just going off. And he's like, he's like, no, she's so famous. He's like, you don't understand. This guy's going to the Hall of Fame. Like, it just goes. on and on and she keeps getting madder and mad. I got mad at Taylor Swift when she switched from country to pop.

She lost me. Okay, we're way off topic. I'm pretty sure if you don't care. She's saying about Tim McGraw. Is there any country music anymore? I think it's all pop. It's a little bit of everything. What Spother could date Taylor Swift?

None of them. Drew Herring could date her. Drew Herring. Drew Herring. I mean, he's married with children. He is. So he would not probably, I don't think he would, but maybe a hall pass. but everybody gets what do you call it?

Does that exist? No. So I saw who's your hall pass? I saw who's your hall pass? Oh, Miles Teller. Miles Taylor. Really? Yes.

I thought you were going to Ricardo. The best part is I seen this guy, a comedian, he goes, he said, hey, honey, we got hall passes. Who's your hall pass? And she said, Brad Pitt. He said, oh, that's good. She said, who's your? He said, Janet, next door.

She said, what? He said, well, he said, well, he said, Mine's chubby Janet Jackson. He said you got no chance of Brad Pitt, but a couple of tweets in Janet and I might have got a shot. Let's just go. Family man Dave asked, have you witnessed any fights on the spotter stand? TJ, I have a feeling you might know the answer to the movie. The answer to this is yes.

Move on. Next question. I mean, there hasn't been any like really good fight fights in a while. There was one. Can we share this now? I know somebody. Oh, my gosh. that may have gotten into a fight.

I didn't get a fight. It wasn't a fight. I punched him. It was not a fight. Oh, and it wasn't a sucker punch. He wasn't a sucker punch. You talking about? He still ain't caught his breath.

Chicago. Yeah, I was trying to find a better way to do it. Yeah. But now they don't know we're talking about the person in the city. That was so long ago, man. That was so long ago. That was a long time ago. I wasn't really long.

I've not hit anybody in 18 years. Oh, it was 18 years ago then. I've seen a couple. Why did you punch him? he picked a guy up by the throat. You remember that one? Who? What?

Yeah. What track? New Hampshire. I try to diffuse situations. Right. Right. I do. TJ was in a situation and I defused it.

You did that one. The rest of the time you're in the middle of it. I mean, you're. That's not true anymore. Okay. Not anymore. Maybe not. Yeah.

And yeah. I'm old. Are we going to share details or no? No. We can't. We get in trouble. Yeah. We had a spotter's meeting the next day at Texas, and it was a no-touch policy was an institute because I punched a guy.

No touch. It's my fault. No. I truly am sorry for that. No-a-old-orgy rule on the roof now. I want to apologize for that. All right. What an idiot?

Chicago, if you're listening, I'm sorry. Whatever happened to that guy? I don't know, but I'm sorry. Brent punched his career out. I shouldn't have hit it. That was very immature of me. I truly am sorry. What an idiot.

Is your what an idiot, Freddy. Brett. Look at my notes, it literally just has the word Freddie. Like, I don't even know what that means. So my what an idiot, I rarely have multiple what an idiot is. But before we give an award out, let's qualify to Landon Huffman that winning what an idiot is a prestigious moment in your career. Do you agree with that? Absolutely. I think so.

I've given Freddie what an idiot. I've given myself what an idiot. I've given T.J. what an idiot. I've given famous people what an idiot. Landon Huffman should be happy that he won. What an idiot last week. Well, that's what I was going for.

That backfired on you. Well, it backfired. And I'm going to tell you what else it did. People were hating on me because you said it. I was getting tweets saying DBC is a bunch of idiots. Well, that's when you know you're just an ad. It's accurate. Then I get nobody listens to y'all.

That's accurate. I mean, nobody listens is not accurate. Unfortunately. You made me get attacked. I mean, well, no. That's hard to do. Landon, you're getting it again. I mean, let's just give him one idiot every week.

But let's talk about how personal he took it. He was upset. Well, what a pun? Like, what the fuck? Landed? Somebody was feeding Landon information because before the show came out, he texted me. He's like, yeah.

What the Frizzis problem? I was like, I don't know. What happened? When I gave Landon, my, what an idiot. It wasn't because he had a bad race or, you know, wrecked something. It was because I wanted him to win and I felt like there was a more strategic move that he could have done. And I even said after that that he's talented enough to pull that move off. There was nothing personal about him being an idiot.

There was just, I wanted him to win. My favorite part of listening to the podcast last week was TJ goes, we just need more respect in short track racing. And then four minutes later goes, he should have lift and inject that guy up in the three. I don't think that's disrespectful, though. Watching them go down on the front stretch, that move would have been very easily accepted at that point. This is a prestigious award, Landon, and you should be proud. We should have...

I'll have Landon come on. Are you going to win the race on the outside in Trensville? Are you going to win the outside of Martinsville? I was about to say I've never won anything at Martinsville, but I did win a race. I'm just saying it. You're not going to win the race from the outside of Marchville. Which was what I was insinuating.

Especially not in a late model. And I don't think we've ever condoned terror... like destroying cars. Like we've never done that. And that's not what I said. So Lannon... That's not true. I agree with what Matt Kensel did, Joy Lugano.

Well, that's it. I mean, that was amazing. But there's, in no way to do I think Lannin should have wrecked that guy. Lannin's... He's had a really good year,

man, he's gotten that car and had a lot of... He won this week? Yeah. So who are the... Who's your two? What is is? Well, we're getting ready to give Lannan another 10,000 followers here.

Thanks to Brett. I've never. I never met Landa, but I am a fan of his. I do follow a lot of stuff he does. So my, my, my one idiot is whoever doesn't do away with his locking bumpers rule, because it is the dumbest rule that we have in all of NASCAR.

So, so I don't, this person's not an idiot, but it made me laugh yesterday. Careful. It's not a landing, is it? No, it's not a land. Put your phone down.

The, uh, the, did you notice, you might have been out of the race already, but Danny was a lap down racing up front and we were pushing him. He was leading to the middle land. I was running, I was up there when you guys started fucking that all up.

So, so Danny, Danny's leading and they were calling out new leader, 11. He's 11. Oh, my. And they said, who led that laugh? And they're like, 11. They're like, nope, try again. 11's not on the lead lap. Scoring.

Because every once in a while, like, when we cross the line, they'll be like, you'll hear the race director as scoring. I need help with that one or whatever because it's close. And they'll go, all right, it's so and so. So they were like 11. They're like, uh, no.

And that place is a unique finish line too, because you can't really, I'll make you get very clear that they're not an idiot. They have a very tough job, but I just, it's really not that tough. It made me laugh. Actually,

it's not that tough job. Oh, dude. Oh, yeah, 100%. It is a hard job to do. There is no chance. You're staring at a computer and deciding who gets across the time.

Well, I hope they're not sitting at a computer. I hope they're watching the race. So they're looking at a computer screen. I'm just saying, I think that new leader of the 11. No, he's a laptop.

That's funny. There is no chance. I wonder who that is. I never want to be a race director because there's no way. No way. I would love to be a race director. You would be very, you would be completely terrible.

I think that we need Brett to go into the operations. I would black flag to f*** out of somebody. I'm telling you all that right now. You would have way more appreciation for everyone you're calling in here. I have tons of appreciation and respect for everybody in the booth. I just want to be a race director for one race. I'll be up there spot out here. Post the 6.

Why? T.J. T.J. Sucks. Brett, he's going to listen to your channel too the entire time as well. Watch this guys. Maybe you should call an arc race or something. It would be such an upgrade.

Oh, God. You are seriously the worst. All right. Any other one idiot contenders here? T.J. You got a one idiot this week? Landon? Yeah.

I literally text Freddie. I'm like, man, TJ's not going to have an idiot the rest of the year. No, I mean, I feel like Landon needs to come down here and buy us all at lunch or something one day. It's a prestigious award. Exactly. And he did not take it prestigious. We got to wrap it up. I've done a 10% battery over here.

I called a crew chief an idiot. A few crew chiefs and idiot at some point. And they all will text me laughing. It's a prestigious award, Landa. Take it a little more lighthearted. So who's your one, an idiot, TJ? Oh, I feel like I had one on Saturday. I told you he wasn't going to have an idiot.

No, I'm trying to think of what it was. Something happened on Saturday. Was it crafting? No. No. That truck race was messy, though. It was pretty messy. But exciting.

All right. Well, you have seven days to come up with your next one. After the road. We're going to Charlotte, so we couldn't find one out of their live show. Hey, so, Brett, I heard a rumor. Oh, no. What rumor? Schedule's coming out this week.

Wednesday. Oh, sweet. I heard Wednesday this week. And I'm really upset that we're not going to Canada. I am full-blown. The corn fans will like... The corn belt will love what we're going. And I love that we're going there.

Because I've... Listen, NASCAR owns the track. We should already be going there. There's no reason IndyCar can put on the race that they put on there in the event they put on there. We don't go. But now the question is, can we do it to the level that IndyCar does it? Because IndyCar does Iowa, right?

Yes. I would never get an Indycar going around that place. Who said Iowa? Do you say Iowa? I mean, I said Corn Belt. I thought Iowa was in the Corn Belt. that's that's one of the things uh and i think one of the bigger things in which we talked about this two weeks ago last week if you if you did the math on what weeks line up where we're not

going to day tona for the cutoff hard to believe that won't be a cutoff race but labor day only falls on one weekend and that's darlington and that does shift everything i mean i'm interested to see what happens because dale went on his show and said the roval is going away next year well i was curious says that the roval is not going away i was curious if it would go away i thought it would go away. I hoped. I hope it goes away. I sure hope it goes away because the big track here is way too good of a product. I think that it'll be interesting because that that would put, there's going to be a road course. Walking's Glenn. There's going to be two road courses. Walkins glens going to playoff. Walkins glens in the playoffs. Now, if the roval stays, that makes two road courses. If the roval doesn't,

then that's one road course. I don't think, I mean, I'm not a, obviously. I'm not a two road course. I'm not in the playoffs like that. No way. Not when you have that good of a race. But I truly like the roval. You like it because it's here. True. But I do like the roadway. It's pretty. That's a pretty race track. What about with the changes that they've made to...

Pretty. You don't think it's a pretty racetrack? I got my one idiot. It's a fucking Brett. Jesus. I mean, I'm a fan of it. I think it's fun, but like, what the... I think it's pretty.

I think Road America is a pretty road course. You can't even see the fucking road course. You can see one corner. What makes it pretty? Just go to the top of the grandstands and look at it. It's pretty. I don't know what that means. I mean, I can see.

That's pretty. So does the landfill behind it? Is that pretty? No. That's not a landfill. It's a mountain. It's a trash. That's pretty? All right. Well. It's a pretty heel. It's only ugly because you know there's trash in it. No, it's pretty is racing on a mile and a half where they can actually race. Okay.

I have lost this show. No. I'm so sorry, guys. I've tried my best here. She was early today too. I was. DBC picks heading into the roeval. Is TJ wrapped this up yet? I mean, pretty much. DJ won this week. Yep.

Oh, they can tie. I can't catch. I just got to get out of last, so I'm going to buy dinner. What? This is going to be, I'm looking good for repeating. You are.

I got to bed last year in the playoffs. God. Who are we going to the roval? We're going to the roval. I pick first, and I will go with Redick. Cowbush sucks. I'd find it really hard.

Oh, never mind. Yeah. You haven't picked. Do I go second or third? We're going to the roble. Who won there last year? Bell, I think.

Bell. Yeah. Christopher Bell won? Christopher. Where's he at the playoffs? Christian Bell. He is plus 22. Oh, so he's going to have to point trace.

That ain't a really good pick for me. Who else is fast at the roble? Anybody good there? Just pick somebody, will you? Can you just pick? I don't know who I want to pick. She picked. Tyler Reddick, and he's got a point race.

That's a stupid pick, Casey. Pick Alamander, damn it. You're going to pick him. Okay, I'll take AJ Almondinger. Jesus. All right, good. I'll take Michael McDowell. T.J.

This just went from bad to worse. She picked Tyler Redick. What an idiot. T.J., who are you picking? Would you pick Tyler Redick for him? Never. Not a chance. No chance.

He's going to be point racing. He's got to be stage racing. He's got to lose all his track position. He won't even finish his top ten. faith in Tyler Redick, okay? Tyler Reddick ain't even that good of a road racer. I wonder if he's going to come back on the Christmas show. I'm glad.

Brett right now. I mean, how with it? I'll go with Chase Elliott. Good pick. Joel. I could have picked Chase Elliott. Talk me into Almondinger, you b***ed. God, Joel.

I'm not prepared. So we're going to have to have Joel on here at some point, obviously. Edmonds is. That's a really bad idea. So, just see, you know, we all need. So he said, what show should I come on? I was like, maybe we'll bring you on Christmas because you bring so much joy to everybody. She has tweet the other night when Eric got the poll.

It's the guy on the pole. Oh, God. Can we leave yet? Am I done? Have I filled my obligations? I know. I would like to know. I would like to know we are headed to Charlotte final race in the round of 12.

Who is in and who is out for the run. Are you a good road racer, T.J.? Me? Yeah, you're plus two. I'm pretty decent at GoPro or track house. You're plus two, Brad Kislowski. Man, we're going to have to go there and swing for the fans, get some stage points. I don't know, man.

I'm nervous, but I know our team is strong enough that our car should be fast, and if we can go there and execute, we have a shot at it, which is, I mean, which is more than what a lot of people have. I watched Bubba Wallace go from, he drove his heart out yesterday. You drove from 9th to 23rd. Good job, Freddie. It's not a laughing matter. I looked at a lot of the points in the race when they would put live scoring up on the scoreboard bubble was above the cut line, and now you're minus 9.

Yeah, like I said yesterday, we would drive, kind of drive to the front, and then we would end up in the back. End up in the back. So minus 9, what do you do? I mean, just going to race your ass off. Obviously, you're going to get stage points. Yeah. But we needed to have a better day yesterday, and we,

And we fumbled the ball. Same here. Listen, from seventh up, from seventh, Kyle Larson all the way to Denny Hamlin, who is not locked in because of a win plus 50. Christopher Bell's fourth plus 22, Brett Keselowski, eighth plus two. I feel like Kyle Larson all the way to Denny Hamlin, if they just have one good stage, they're probably good. Yeah, Denny's just got to finish 29th.

Like, yeah. He's locked in. He's in, basically. I mean, I hate to drink some, but. He's in. I think Brad's the only guy, Casey, that can fall out. Yeah, we're... And I think Ross Chastain can knock him out.

I think Reddy could knock him out. I don't mean that. No pun intended. Yeah, I mean, the only... I mean, honestly, though, looking at it, I'm glad we're on the plus side of it, but Tyler and Ross both have been making mistakes lately. Yeah. But so, I don't know.

Are you saying you're not worried about that? But they're also good road racers. Yeah, I mean, this is probably the hardest. I mean, this group right here is hard to pick, man. I hope, may the best man win. With the return of stage breaks to this track, what are we going to change this whole scenario right here? This is going to get flip-flopped numerous times throughout the race.

Because people are points racing in. Yeah, so you have to, if you are Christopher Bell to Brad, Tyler, Ross, that group, you have to stay out of the stages. And there's going to be people that pit with two to go, or three to go probably. This is the hard thing to know too, Freddie. Like you're running 12th. You're not in the top 10.

You're not going to get stage points. And you come to the lap before pit road closes and are they lap pit road closes because you can pit there before you get to start finish. You don't know what to do. Yeah. Oh, I mean, you'll see the guys in front. Like our call will usually be like if we can get a point, stay out.

And you just kind of see. Literally a point. Yeah. That's going to be the deal. That's going to be the deal. It's going to be that important. But it's, you're going to, you know, you just got to do opposite of what the guys in front of you. I just wish we could have, I wish we didn't.

Because I feel like we could have probably come out of there with the top 10 or 12. You and Ross both could have came out of here looking really good. But like a guy like McDowell, a guy like Chase Elliott, or Chase is probably still an owner's point. So a guy like McDowell, a guy like AJ, Cindrick, maybe even, like guys like that are dangerous because they're going to shore pit. They're going to get track position, get the lead, and then they're going to be hard to beat. Yeah. Well, I guess we'll find out. Don't forget to catch us at the fan zone at Charlotte Mothers Speedway after the

Expinity Series race. A lot of people ask us what to do in Charlotte. Casey, what's your favorite thing to do in Charlotte? Millbridge. Millbridge. Millbridge is a highlight. Millbridge is good. T.J. just said GoPro.

Gopro. Track house now. Victory lane carting at exit 18 off of I-77. That's a good one as well. Has bowling. It has indoor go-carts that run 30-plus miles an hour. It has a lot of video games. for your kids grill in there. There's a bug that's a lot.

Yeah, man, I'm going to smack it. The NASCAR Hall of Fame. About Mount Maccraft in that mug on your face. Where do we do your bachelor party at? Would we start? Not Doug worst. Where do we start or would we end? Not Doug worst.

Where do we end there? Just Big Al give you guys free wings on Sunday nights whenever you go there. I mean, if you advertise. They charge us double. Yeah, I mean, if you advertise, you're going to go there after the race. We'll probably go to Big Al's after the roble. Free wings? Good chance.

Exit 36. for those of you who like to go to something after the race. There are a few. What's your favorite restaurant, Casey? Oh. Room 40? I will say there, before I forget, there are a few fan days at race shops this week and Martinsville Race Week.

There are. Be sure to check out your favorite race shop if you're in there. Are you not answering what your favorite restaurant is? I had to think about it for a second. I'm going to give you one that I bet you haven't been to. It's on South Boulevard, and it's an old school steakhouse. Beef and bottle. Yep, been there.

Been there. You have? Yep, I have. I'm not a New York strip guy. Their New York strip is phenomenal. That's old school. It's old, old school. So if you want to go somewhere cool, that's your cool spot.

If you're up near Moresville, Epic Chop House. Yep. Pisces is also really good. Oh, Pisces. What's your favorite? Pyssey's been struggling lately. Their service sucks lately. I do.

Epic's really good, but it's a little fancier place. I mean, you got to dress up a little bit to go there. Epic? A little bit. I've never been to State 4. I hear a lot of things. South Park. It is.

I might be going there tonight, actually. That's where Busy loves champion Chit. That's where boozy people go. Yeah. South Park. My favorite is. Somebody asked me yesterday on the airplane, you always make fun of Casey's expensive golden goosey shoes.

How much do they cost? I'm like $1,000. They're like, I'm wearing Nike's that I got for $35. Shut up. There's no way she's got $1,000. I do not have $1,000. And they want to know how you came up with $1,000 to buy them.

That's easy. Side jobs. Chad's credit card. Feetpix.com. All right, we are going to close out this show before we get ourselves into more trouble. Do you pay taxes on OnlyFans? Do you have to? I don't know, do you?

I don't know. Somebody said a girl last night was in there was from OnlyFans. No kidding. Thank you all so much for listening. I am so sorry for anything. Andrew's nodding like, please get us out of here. Like the late model guy? You might have said that might have offended you.

Come see us in Charlotte. I have the show. Come see us in Vegas. Casey. I hope the show is unedited. I hope the show is unedited. Don't even touch you. Just put it out wrong.

We're live. By the way, Freddie. By the way, we're live. Freddie, I got something you might like. Oh, God. I'm going to have something in my like for the night.

I know it's supposed to be kind of cool this weekend. No, this is it? Is this legit? Yes, this is legit. This isn't like, yes. These, no, these been so, this,

since Texas, I got a message. from that cool shirt place. I see them. They said they say they tweet me. So I'm gonna, they send me a size 13 boot. So if you get me a shirt,

at least make sure it fits. I'm not at this again. Are you spot in Martinsville this year? No. Hell no. Are you retired to rest of the year? No, I might do Phoenix.

Oh, okay. Hmm. Yeah. I was trying to get Brett to come spot the roval with me. I told you I would. Yeah, you're not doing it? No. He could do the Xfinity race.

Yeah, you love the exfini race there, don't you? I do. Didn't you stay there in the rain that one time? No. Jason Jared said, hey, because you got to have a second spotter just to do nothing. Literally just go check in. He's like, would Brett do it? I was like, no.

I didn't even ask him. I was like, no chance. And then Brett's like, you should have told me. I would have done it. I'm like, shut the fuck. Like, you're a lying piece of. I am excited about going to the pretty roval. I'm going on Saturday.

He would have done it because he's already got to go down there for the show. Yeah, the show. So he would have done it. I can't, last year they brought us a bunch of moonshine to the show. So I can't wait to see what people bring us this year. I remember that? I had to hide under a table on a display or something. It did bring a lot.

But we love you guys. Thank you for listening. We'll see you after the Rebel. We'll see you Saturday night. Come on out. See you Saturday night and see them guys. Hey, by the way, last week people were very concerned that they said that was the first episode ever that you did not say holla. I didn't.

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