Door Bumper Clear - 315. Phoenix. Cole Custer & Joel Edmonds: Champagne In The Hot Tub

Episode Date: November 7, 2023

The champions are crowned and DBC is back for one final episode to recap the season finale, in a record long recording! Xfinity Series Champion Cole Custer and Spotter Joel Edmonds join the group to break down the weekend, swap stories, and get the show off the damn rails!Freddie Kraft, TJ Majors, Brett Griffin and Andrew Kurland sit down with Custer to recap a chaotic Truck Series race, racing with respect in the Xfinity Series, and Ryan Blaney’s championship run on Sunday. The group discusses Blaney’s run in with Ross Chastain, and recaps Steve Phelps’ remarks from the annual State Of The Sport press conference. As one guest leaves, another jumps in. Joel Edmonds arrives at the studio with an 18-pack of beer and no damns to give. The stories start to flow in a spotter round table tell-all. Edmonds and the group discuss Carson Hocevar and Corey Heim’s run ins on Friday night, Allgaier’s even even keeled racing style, and their several candidates for ‘What an idiot.’ Plus, Blaney fans are rejoicing in the hot tubs after a roller coaster year on Reaction Theatre. It’s an episode that is damn sure worth the wait. Buckle up. Want more DBC? Check out and subscribe to the new DBC YouTube channel! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

The following is a production of Dirty Mode Media. Door. Clear. Clear by two. Pretty shallow entry. Bumper. Clear. Hey, everybody.

I'm T.J. Majors. Spotter of the Sixth cup car. Eight Xenity car. 61 truck this weekend. I don't think the guy the rectus has lifted yet. But I saw that. He got in there pretty deep. You sound busy.

I was very busy. You didn't do the Arker race? No. Slacker. Yeah. The G. The G. The slacker's wrong?

No, hell, hell, hell, Slacker. Brett Griffin, Spotted this year for Colleg racing. Cole, I did a whopping five races, man. Is that impressive? Yeah, I mean, I get it. I get it. Slacker.

Slacker. What's up? Freddie Craft, spotter for Bubba Wallace and Chandler Smith. I had Nick Leitz lights on a... You don't even know how to say his name. I told you last week. I didn't even know the fuck was driving it. We got Andrew sitting in for Casey this morning.

Hi, Andrew. How are you? How's going? Andrew Curlin. Where the fuck is Casey at? Casey, I guess, is flying back from Phoenix now. I don't know how I could get home from there and she can't. I can't believe it. Like, didn't she gives you shit about that every time you're late.

She just didn't want to do it. Yeah. No kidding. Bottom line. 100%. Yeah. Anyway, well, Britt, as Brett alluded to earlier, we do have. Wait, wait, wait, wait.

He didn't say, cut that out. Cut that out. We all tweeted it yesterday. No, you're good. It wasn't a secret. Cole Custer, Xfinity, Series. champion in the house. Congratulations, sir. Thanks. Thank you guys for having me on.

Yeah, I asked Muffy at the bar, much Muffy is Brandon McReynolds, Cole's, I guess, what's manager? What do we call? What do we call him? Life coach. Don't not refer to him as your life coach, dear God. I've already got questions. How do you get that in a game? So Brandon McReynolds is a life coach.

We've got to clarify this, Cole, before we move this along. That's a loose turn. Very loose turn. No, Brandon's, Brian's great friend. Here's what you don't do, Cole. Let me tell you why, because I've already done it.

That's Brandon. Brandon's the Clint line of, I will let you down. I have seen me do it. But I mean, talk about that for a minute because I know, you know, Clint, not Clint,

Jesus, Brandon has had a pretty big effect on your career and life in general for you. Yeah, I mean, I was teammates with Brandon and in K&N a little bit

when we ran for McAnally kind of a little bit. So I've known him for a long time. Actually, the first time I ever spoke to him was at Dover running K&N, and he was kind of the guy there at that point. So my crew chief was like, go talk to Brandon. And he was not helpful whatsoever. I was like, what do you think? And he's like, oh, yeah, so you get on the gas and you'll figure it out. Bud, bud, you just get in there and drive it. That's useless to me right now.

Brandon was a really good race car driver, though, one point. I don't think everybody realized that. He kind of hit that point in this career where you have to have funding and he didn't have enough funding to kind of take to the next level. But I remember seeing some late model races where he ran against the big boys and he had really impressive showing. Even some ARCA and K&N stuff, he got in later, just single races he ran fairly well in. And just, I don't know, just probably didn't, couldn't put a full season together and stuff. Couldn't afford it.

Like we talk about, it's all about money most of the time. You know, there's guys out there that are super talented that just never get the brakes fall their way. I mean, Brandon's won races at Talladega. I've seen him win, you know, all over the place at K&N. are just like you said just poor timing and speaking of that before we get into how great Saturday night was take it back to for me beginning of the year obviously how hard is it we talk about all the time on here about guys that go to the Cup series and are you know they're not

willing to go back you know and and what's that decision like when it comes down to it obviously probably not your decision to make but you know what's it like when that happens where you have to take a step back and go back to the Xfinity series yeah I mean it was tough you know i mean at the end of the day you know it can't say it wasn't frustrated you know and i think i was frustrated myself at the same time because i felt like you know a lot of it was put on me and i think there were definitely things i could have done better um but from there it was like when you get to go and run an exfinity car that you know can go compete for wins that that excites you you know like that's whatever driver wants to go out there and do and i feel like it felt like i could

definitely prove something going down the xfinity series and um just being with a great group of people that truly believed me and being able to build that into a championship team. Yeah, I mean, obviously the proof is into putting there Saturday night. Let's break that down. I mean, at one point I looked up and the four on the green, white checker there, first of all, let's go back to your, you're the fastest. I thought you were the fastest car in long run pretty much throughout the race. The 20 was really good short run, but then he would kind of fade a little bit,

and I saw you coming on there. So now you're in position. You're out front coasting to the championship and you get a yellow. the hell goes to your mind when that happens? I think I think I said on the radio, I think the one thing I said was like, these effing idiots. No, no, I said clowns. Um, well, if it makes you feel better, it was a race for like 38th. They're really spun out. I know, right? But, uh, it really mattered. That's just how it is, you know? And you're just mad at the moment, you know, at, you know, that happening. But at the end of the day, there's nothing you can do about it. So you take a deep

breath and it's like, all right, you just got to focus on the restart for two more laps and, you know, and it's going to be what's going to be. And then, And the restart obviously doesn't go. The initial part of the restart doesn't go good. And it looked to me, now I don't know what was like going on in the car, but obviously the seven gets outside you and puts you in a bad spot there. But it just seemed like there was no panic. Like you see a lot of guys in that position would maybe ship it off into one and wreck

or like we saw on Friday night, that disaster. But it seemed like you just like hit your entry right, got a big run off and put yourself back in a position to win right there. Yeah, I mean, I felt like, you know, it's always a toss-up with the top or the bottom there. And I felt like with the resin coming in, the top was going to be a little bit better because you could just send it off in there and the resin would catch you.

But it didn't work out. So, I mean, the one thing that I didn't want happened with the seven getting outside of me. I tried to block him, but he was able to get there. And from there, I was three wide in the middle and I knew I was just in a no-win situation pretty much on the entry. So I just made sure I made the corner,

didn't wreck, and tried to downshift it and just get a good exit. And from there, it just, you know, was all it would work out. Yeah, I mean, you could tell, at one point I looked up and the four championship guys were four wide off of two.

Yeah. It was not too far in front of it. I was like, there's no way they're all making this corner down here. And then they, I mean, it ended up being a really good race. I think Justin,

I thought Justin had a pretty good entry to three in a middle of three and four. The exit, he didn't get a very good exit. And I think that was pretty much the end of it right there. I think we both drove in until he saw Jesus. I think we had a, We had a great car to be able to make it stick.

But, yeah, it was a wild three. Wild last couple laps for sure. Seven win season the year before you moved into Cup full time. I sat at this table and I said you would win maybe 10 races this year. Was it harder to win this year than you thought it was going to be? Oh, yeah. I mean, we fired off the season. And, I mean, the first, we should have, we had a really good shot to win Fontana,

but we had a tire go down. But other than that, I mean, we kind of sucked. I mean, it was, we ran 12th like that. three weeks in a row and it was like, oh my God, what are we doing? And we just had to really kind of communicate with each other on what we needed to make better and we're truly fixed what our problems were and dig through a lot of different notes and figure out what we needed to do because it was, I mean, there's 12 cars in the Xfinity Series right now that could legitimately win where before it was more like five or six cars, I felt like. So I feel like the competition

level in the Xfinity series was pretty solid this year. I mean, everybody was really competitive. and if you were off your game, you were going to run 12. So it was good that it wasn't easy, I think, at the same time, though. I think if it was easy, I wouldn't have learned as much this year and how to communicate with your team to make things better and just how to really build something. Riley got fast. Oh, yeah.

I mean, I remember he drove by us at Vegas, and I was like, oh, my God. I got nothing for that. Vegas was unreal. Yeah, I mean, which all year, honestly, He's had speed. It's been his best year. Like even the beginning of the year, we were all super impressed by Riley.

He started off the first third of the year. Who's we all? Because I was the second half of the year. You must have been watching the first part because that was the best start of a season he's had ever. Did he make a playoff? Honestly,

they should have made the playoffs easily. I'm just arguing with TJ. Because you don't have the best start you've ever had and then not like a playoff 20 races in. He made it. He made it playoffs, didn't he? No, no. He didn't make playoffs.

Ligerman. He was raising. Him and the nine that we both thought we would have been in the playoffs, given how fast cars were. He had the best of a year for his career that he's had. We were all... But anyway, he's fast. You guys found something when it mattered.

Yeah, I mean, and it's crazy because you look at it and, you know, at the start of the year, we were like, man, what are the J.R.M. cars doing? Or what are the Gibbs cars doing? Like, they figured something out with this new package that Xfinity has. But at the end of the day, it's just little things. You know, like, we just kept working on our stuff, spring shocks, heights, you know, just getting all that dialed in a little better. and all of a sudden you're, you know, head by 15 seconds with Riley,

and we were super fast at Homestead, and just the whole playoffs were just extremely good for our whole team. So it's just the little things that add up, and it takes a great team to find those. It does. Three wins this year. I mean, and obviously you won the race that counted, and to Freddie's point, it was the best championship race of the weekend.

Oh, by easy. It wasn't even close. Y'all didn't like the truck race? Yeah. Did you watch the truck race? I did watch a truck race. How did that look from your seat? It was something.

It was something. Were you just praying that that wasn't going to happen on Saturday night? I knew it wasn't going to happen to us. I mean, I knew that the championship for an R deal were respectful and that they wanted to do it right. But that truck deal, I mean, man, it is wild. It was across the board. Everybody I talked to was just like that was the most embarrassing thing we've done in our...

I mean, apparently they addressed it in the meeting yesterday. Apparently, they all watched the Xfinity race from Marchville and said, Oh, this is how we're going to do, Fienies. Hold my beer. Have we gotten any diagnosis on that engine from your Martinsville car by any chance? Like, is there any pieces left in it? Doug Yates wasn't too worried about it. So I bet we won't ever see that engine again.

Because, I mean, we ran that thing hot. The alternator was going bad at the end. So the volts were all messed up. And then at the end, obviously backwards on fire. It's just on the chip. On the chip. It was a disaster. Talk about quickly, not quickly, you can talk about it all you want, but the difference

between the Xfinity and the cup car. You know, obviously, we talk about this all the time on here about the races are more fun for us to watch. I got to think the cars are more fun to drive. Yes. I mean, the thing about the cup level that's so special is just the competition of it. You know, like when you're racing literally 30 guys out there that could probably go in.

So it's just insane the competition to every single level out there. But the Xfinity cars in general, they just, the dirty air is not as bad. You can hang the cars out more sideways. The tire fall off's better. You know, overall, it's just a really racy package where you can go and run different lanes and have comers and goers throughout a run and not have to. It's easier to make passes too just because you're not stuck in such a bad dirty air wake. So there's just, you can just race your tails off with everybody out there.

What's the future look like for Cole Custer? I know obviously, you announced this week, I think you're back in the double zero for another year. I mean, obviously the 10 cars sitting there open. God knows we've heard so many rumors about that. And it's all we talked about with Brandon earlier. You know, it all comes down to money. What were we looking at just going to come back and repeat next year or what? That's the plan.

Yeah, I mean, we're coming back in the Xfinity series with the double zero team. So I'm pumped about that. I mean, seeing what we built this year and how much that went into it and just being with that group of guys is awesome. and I wouldn't want to do with anybody else. And I think that we're going to have a great year next year. And with Riley, too, I mean, I told them, like, hopefully we can split the races in half. You know, like, I felt like we had so much speed in the playoffs. I mean, we can do a lot of stuff next year, I feel like, so I'm excited about it.

Anybody roll changes for the Swindley cars? No, nothing for next year, I don't think. That's good for you. Yeah, exactly. I'm pumped. Yeah, it's a good time to be riding that wave. So, yeah, I mean, there's no reason why I don't think you'll, I don't think you'll double your wins next year. So what are you going to do to celebrate this thing? What's that going to look like?

Well, he's here. We can't go to cut uproves. Luckily, Brandon's not back yet from Phoenix. So the thing that's crazy about it, like, so I have Brandon that's like my best friend and manager. And then also Philip Smalley, who manages Ross. Yeah. And they won the race. And Phillips getting married this January. Oh. So we got his bachelor party this weekend in New Orleans. New Orleans. And Brandon's the best man. Yeah. So it's going to be a disaster. So it was nice knowing you.

Holy cow. Geez. I don't think that's a good place for y'all to go. Y'all might want to move it. Yeah. Poor Phil. Moving to like Huntersville. And Brandon's having a baby in like three weeks.

Yeah. Yeah. Oh, I mean, we were. So the next three weeks are going to be really hard on you. So speaking of that, I have to give a shout out to your wife, Carrie, who at Brandon's bridal shower, she was talking about maybe starting to listen to the podcast. And I said, well, listen tomorrow. And I'll give you a shout out.

out, which I think she might have been a little under the weather at that point. So she might not have remembered, but obviously I know family's important. Your dad works over there at SHR. Obviously, Carrie was there the other night. Just, you know, what's, what's that support system like in your world? Yeah, I mean, it's huge. I mean, Carrie's been there. Um, she, me and her met in 2019, actually, when I was in the Xfinity series still. Um, so she was there during that good year and then kind of through the whole cup experience and has had my back. I mean, the whole way. I mean, she's been so supportive. And, um, I definitely wouldn't be here without her and just all the support that she's given me.

And obviously, my family, I mean, you know, my dad got me into it when I was five years old and he's always been a huge part of my career. And, you know, without him just busting his tail every single day. And, you know, he's the guy out at the racetrack sweating through his shirt every single weekend. But, you know, it's just awesome to have that atmosphere and be able to work with your dad. But you have to keep things separate a little bit, too. You know, it's not the easiest thing to do. but at the end of the day, I think it's very thankful to have just the opportunities I've given. I had a laugh during the race, and I'll just probably never cross your mind, but it was on the replay board like 10 times the fight you and John Hunter had at, where was that, Canada?

And I was like, did you ever think about like, I'm going to tackle this son bitch again if he does something stupid? So I was just thinking about that. He brought up, you know, I wasn't worried about that. All these championships four, I'm like, going into three on the last laugh. If John Hunter's second to you, do you think he doesn't hit you? I think we wrestle again. We might. We might have.

Yeah, we might have for sure. That's probably the most epic Goldberg moment in NASCAR history. Did you get madder as you got out of the car and stood there? Like what? Yeah, I mean, that whole experience, I mean, that year, we struggled in the truck and we had to win that race to make the playoffs. And that was our chance. And he just stripped it away from us. So it was like, man, this sucks.

It just, it was horrible. of all the races I've ever seen in NASCAR history, I've never seen a race winner, not even on the racetrack when he wins the race. That's what that came down to. Yeah. I mean, it was a melee where you guys went completely off the track, up against the guardrail,

and then when you came flying across the racetrack and you nailed his ass and dropped him on the ground, I was like, fuck yeah. I'm here for this. So when you got out, you got really mad, obviously. Well, I was pretty mad. And then it was the point of, like, he was doing burnouts out there,

and he was going to get the checker flag, and I was like, that's just not happening. It's just not going to happen. And I was just so mad. I was like, I'm taking off. And I was like, where is he? And he was like, I'm on the front stretch somewhere. So I finally spotted him.

And I mean, I was going to knock his lights out. But the fans, they started like yelling at him. And he looked. And he looked at me. And I was like, oh, man, this is going to be big now. I hope I don't miss. Oh, man. Imagine he didn't know you.

you're coming and got blindsided. Did you imagine if this had been like one of that John West moment where Cole gets there and they belly rub and they hug? No, this guy takes him out. I don't think you should bring him up with it. But the mild mannered Cole Custer that I knew back then, like I was fully surprised. Oh, I think we were all surprised. I mean, he's going to football tackle a guy running across the train.

I don't know if I do it again. I mean, that was definitely when you're younger, you do some stupid things. So wait a minute. Saturday night, you're leading. he did you I mean you'd probably do something I don't know if I do it the same way or not but he'd probably be he'd be pretty ugly so so what your spotter tell you on the last restart to get you ready for it uh I don't even know coming to the green see in a bet I mean I was I was just you know focused on what we had at hand really I mean I think that was just the biggest

thing I had in my mind I kind of blocked everything out at that point what did you know that you had to do to win this thing on that last restart uh I mean it all comes down to the jump, you know. It's been the tires. Yeah, I mean, it's such a toss-up on the top or the bottom. But if you get a good jump, I mean, it kind of takes care of itself. And I didn't get a great jump. So the seven was outside of me.

The 20 probably wouldn't have been as far up on me into turn one if the seven didn't get outside me because the seven drug us both back. But at the end of the day, I mean, it just the jump didn't go how we wanted it to. But we're still able to keep our cool and just make sure. that you just take it one step at a time. I mean, especially in those championship situations, what I've learned over the years, I feel like. I mean, so many people, I think, get caught up in the big picture of it

and really just everything involved in it. But at the end of the day, if you just take a one lap at a time and just do what you know what to do, it's going to work out. We talk about all the time all here. You have to protect your right rear at all cost because it does suck you back more

than if somebody's on your left rear. as a driver, how much do you feel that when they're on your right rear versus their left rear as far as it's screwing up your momentum? Yeah, I mean, it's huge. It's definitely a little bit more on the right rear than the left rear, but whenever you can get that side draft, I mean, it's huge, especially, and that's why you see a lot of times on restarts at the top, you know, it has all the momentum, but sometimes they're all trying to put each other three wide that it actually just drags everybody back.

But it's definitely a huge part of it for sure. seeing Tony on the box going nuts after the races over what he said when you got to see him he was pumped and you know that was really cool I mean I think uh you know I called him you know at the end of last year when the whole deal happened and um you know I just said like you know anything that you can think of that I can do better like I want to know you know and I just I wanted to take it as a year that I could just try and improve myself and prove people that I could do it and um he was extremely supportive along the way and he was he was pumped up after the race you know he was it was cool to see his excitement and you know just how the last few years have gone and

um i think just it's uh it was a great day for shr and bringing a championship home yeah honestly you know i don't know obviously you can't comment about this probably but i think it's probably one of the best things that's happened to you was going back there this year because you know you look at we've talked about on here the stewart hoskars just haven't had speed on the on sundays and you know if you're just if you're just back over there and you're running where they're at you know then it's probably just going to be a deterrent to the future of your career now you go back win races win a championship and you're in your kind of vault yourself back into the conversation so awesome for you man we're congratulations uh we're glad you swung by here today uh thanks for coming

real quick like you filled in for brad saturday how chaotic was that trying to focus on the infinity championship but then also working on that cup car it was tough i mean especially i got the call at eight a m i think i was rolling into the track just the infinity garage and i caught the call from zippy and he was like, you know, I think Brad had to fly home. He's having a baby. And it was like, I've been the backup driver. I called Roush and Penske and, you know, SHR, obviously. I've been the backup driver for most of the year or, you know, wanted to be the first call. And it was, it had to be that weekend, you know, like championship weekend. Not only that weekend that day. Yeah, that day. And it's like, man, this is a tough decision. But I had to do it. You know,

I wanted to have the, I wanted to show people that I want the opportunity. to go run cup cars and be able to be in the top series. So having that opportunity meant a lot and having them trust me with his car. But it was tough because his seat actually fit decent. We didn't have to change a lot. I think I added a quarter inch of foam on the right side of the shoulder. And that was it. But I think I sat a little bit lower than him. So I couldn't really see exactly how I wanted to. Sometimes that's a good thing. Yeah, exactly. Not that. Not that thing. I was slow. But in the holler, I was talking to McCall, just trying to figure out what he had for a steering box and brakes. And he's like, yeah, he likes a really stiff pedal.

Like, he can barely walk after Martinsville. And I was like, all right, I guess I'll try and figure it out. And I went into turn three on the out lap. And I was thinking, like, I'll try and lay down a solid lap. And I went to turn three, and I was like, this thing does not stop. This is not what, this is not the brake pedal I'm used to whatsoever. So at that point, I'm like, do not, do not back this thing in the fifth. could you tell in those two labs that tj is the worst spotter on the roof

you know like he was i think i was like the only spotter on the roof so there was probably there was so for exfini qualifying there was probably five and for a cup qualifying there was probably seven or eight so yeah it was pretty slim up there yeah but it was good i mean he was telling me what the shift points were and stuff and i still i just shifted i think whatever felt right It was fine. I mean, you just try and do the best you can in that situation when everything's not perfect. Well, you didn't make the news for the wrong reason. That's the goal of that session is to not be in the news for the wrong thing.

Yeah, exactly. Limited cup schedule next year? You know, I'd like to run some cup races for sure, but nothing solidly planned at the moment. After the Xfinity race, you forgot your bag? Yep. Yeah. How did that happen? Well, we're doing all the pictures.

stuff and I leave my bag on the hauler, you know, to get changed and everything, all my clothes, my wallet, my rental car keys. So they're doing tech, they finished tech, we're still doing pictures and they pick off. And they're like an hour down the road. Me, Ashland, Carrie, Mike Arning, all had to go chase after the hauler. And that's why we never made it out to the club that night. Way to go. For the party. I promise you, it was a party. We had, we had a celebration for me and Brandon had a celebration for Cole that he wasn't a part of. But we, just so you know, you did a really, we had a good party for you.

It was a big deal. Thought that counts. And I will be expecting a call for whatever the actual celebration. Unless it's just going to be New Orleans. We'll call me when we're in New Orleans. Don't call me from New Orleans. I'm not going there with you, idiots. That's going to be fun, man.

Well, hey, this sets you up for a really fun winner, man. So congratulations, obviously. Big win for you. Big win for Ford. Big win for Stewart House Racing. And congrats champ. Well, thank you guys. Thanks for having me on.

Yeah, man. Yeah, I appreciate it, man. Congrats again on the championship, and if you've got to fill in again, we'll try to soften the brake pedal. Hey, door bumper clear fans, it's Mike Davis here, president of Dirtymo Media and co-hosted the Dell Jr. Download.

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I was two years. Ben Rhodes won his first truck championship. Right? It's Ben and Hemrick. Yeah, yeah, it was. Clarkson won that year, right? Yeah. Yeah.

Larsson big time to us. Yeah. Well, they got to go. It's hard. I can get them, but they got to go to New York. Like, they go right to New York. so they're not around. So I'd rather have him, I could probably call Blaine.

He's probably still drunk. Oh, yeah, 100%. Zero down. If he's been to bed yet. I don't know what time they got to go to New York. When we were sitting here last week and we were looking at the Cup Series Championship four, I ain't a lot of y'all. I was sitting here going, man, this is a bland group of young dudes.

Like, I don't know who resonates the best with our fan base after Blaney. Because to me, it's obvious Blaney of these four resonants. resonated the best had, you know, I mean, listen, Kyle Larson, one of the best drivers in the world, not a big personality. Christopher Bell, amazing race car driver, not a big personality. William Byron, obviously six wins on the year, great season, still a pretty chill personality, right? You don't know a lot about those three guys, you know, as far as their demeanor. Of the, of the four, Ryan Blaney to me, resonates the best with, hey, you know, he's a legacy guy, his dad raised. He represents the sprint car family.

I felt like of the four, like intrinsically, he was the guy we probably needed to win this thing. Yeah, for sure. And I mean, you've seen that right in the press conference afterwards. He said, you know, of course, I didn't get to see much of the battle with Ross, but I kind of saw bits of pieces where it looked like Blaney was better than him and couldn't get around and Ross was kind of blocking a little bit. Well, I mean, Ross was being Ross. Ross was being Ross.

But I guess Blaney must have hit him at some point. Oh, he nailed him. I watched it happen. Somebody asked him if he hit him on purpose. He's like, fucking. Yes, I hit him on purpose. We actually have a clip. All right.

We have a clip. We've got a clip. I was going to save it for spot on, spot off. Hopefully nobody calls Travis while we're trying to do it. It's like that Ross said I raced him hard. I mean, the dude blocks three lanes getting in the corner every lap. I mean, I don't know how I'm racing him hard. When you're looking in your mirror and you're going left and right and left and just following wherever I go, I don't understand how he thinks I'm racing him hard.

He's just backing me up to the five, so I have to go. I mean, he's backing me up to Larson to where I'm going to be in trouble. Well, fucking right, I hit him on purpose. I mean, yeah. Yes, I hit him on purpose. He blocked me on purpose 10 times. So, yeah, I hit him on purpose. I mean, what do you expect me to do?

That's accurate statement. I think Ross's rebuttal to this was epic too, though. Ross said, I knew he was mad, and I didn't care then. We have a clip. And now I know he's mad, I don't care now. We got more clips. We got more clips. Yeah, it was in every thought, every corner, every throttle application,

every break input, every downshift, upshift, all parts of the lap. I was not going to crash him. I was not going to use my front bumper, side fenders, anything. Dirty air? Different story. Yeah, I'm going to. And I'm going to keep the lead because that's everything. So, yeah, I know he's mad.

And I don't care. I do not care. I did not care then. I do not care now. I'm here to race him. I'm not going to wreck him. And I gave him the bottom most times. The only time I was inside of him was after he got by me.

I crossed back over into three and I made sure to wrap the bottom. Like I'm not going to slide up and pinch him at all. It's in my mind the entire time for sure. I want to bring something up right here, Freddie. Do you remember when we got a phone call from somebody at trackhouse racing and they were upset at us because we said the words on the show Ross Chastain doesn't care.

Yes. What the fuck did Ross just say? I don't care. I don't care. I didn't care. I won't care. We said this is how he races. Don't give a f*** to a return for one final show.

I mean, in Ty Norris, I'll say who it was because I think he's over it now. It's been a few years. But he was mad at us. I mean, he was legit mad at us saying that Ross doesn't care how he raises people. Ross just says, at it.

Yeah. Which I think it was very evident throughout the course of that series that he didn't care. He doesn't care how he races people. He doesn't care that if they don't like how he races. And I think he played everything. I think Ross did everything how he should have done it. He's there to win that race. He's in victory lane, ain't he?

He's in victory lane. Boy, we didn't know it for 14 minutes. TV did not want to show anything to do with who won the race. Yeah. It was all about the champ for Kevin Harvick. Eric Amarola was missing from this whole thing, too, by the the way, but they finally got to wrongs. So you know in turn where we spot from in three and four there. You can't really, it's really hard to tell where they're running, what lane they're running

through one and two, right? When they're running the bottom, is he on the paint? Is he two lanes below the paint? Like, it's hard to tell where they're at. So I'm watching the infield TV thing that they have down there. And I try to watch it to see where I, where guys, how low they're getting. And in cup practice, it was the entire run that we were on the track. They, they were on the track. showed the 12 car the entire time like it like i could not tell where anybody else was going or doing and it was the entire time like you couldn't even like i don't know it's so so focused on that yeah it's crazy ross chastain though fourth win in his cup series career that's a big number that's a lot of wins yeah for a guy that really haven't been in a fast car that long and he's won at four

completely different style racetracks obviously road course plate track uh whereas he nashville earlier this year and now you come back and win at Phoenix. I think it's a big statement win for trackhouse racing to really set them up for a good off season for a great winner. Yeah. He was strong too because you could see it the first run, that first stage, we were actually pretty good and we drove up to, I don't know, third or fourth. And then Ross, he started behind us, probably three or four spots behind us. He chased us down, passed us and was running the leaders down. So you knew like if there's any point, if he could get track position, he was going to be strong. Obviously, track position was important. I thought, you know, and Brett, I don't know watching it on TV,

because obviously the watching at watching versus being there at Martinsville was a little bit skewed. I thought you were there with me. This was one of midpack anyway, the better. I don't know if now, I say this because I don't know if I set the bar so low for this place that I just think that once I see somebody pass somebody, it's a good race. But it was a little bit better midpack. I felt like there was fall off. You could pass guys. We've seen the 12 didn't win the race. he saw a pit road but was able to manage to drive back by the five and the 24. I know he couldn't get around the one, but it still wasn't good by any means. Don't get me wrong, but it was a little bit better than it has been in the past. I actually thought it was very racy and guys could compete

from the very bottom of three or one and two all the way to the wall. The guy in the bottom obviously makes up the time in the middle, but the guy on the exit crosses him on, you know, can make up the time with the big run. And you could pass. Like we, I mean, obviously, we, I thought we we were going to have a really long day because we were starting to vary back. I'm like, okay, well, hopefully we can get to the top 20 because it's going to be super hard to pass. And by the end of the first stage, I think we were already there. And then second stage, we're close to the top 10. And, you know, even in the long run, I saw guys with better cars, catch guys and pass guys.

I don't know what made it so different this time, but the track was wide. The cars were they could race multiple lanes. and if a guy ran it's a chess match into three every single lap whether that guy's going to die to the bottom or is he going to roll up and because if you're running the bottom the guy in behind you just runs a lane gets a big run for the straightaway which is which is what you need to be to be able to do that stuff and I thought it was actually one of the better one of the better phoenix races that we've had there if not it might have been the best phoenix race we've ever had there with the passing I don't think um you weren't necessarily stuck behind the guy they would

catch a guy and work him over like I don't it's kind of got lost but I thought I thought I thought busher had a really good shot at winning that race he ran he slowly moved up all day and then passed all them guys at front past Ross for the lead comes out we have a heavy yellow comes down he just unfortunately has a bad pit stop and comes out ninth and he never he got back up inside the top five I think at the end but never recovered yeah I mean he was he was working on it but um you know I saw him racing the guys really respectfully as well there I saw him trying to pass a 24 and giving in plenty of room just you know um but yeah i thought the thought the track was was pretty good i mean what look like on tv bret well i was watching some old tv summit person

running around and i sent a tweet out at one point because what was frustrating is we saw where martin true x junior and ryan blaney were significantly faster than ross chastain they both at this point had run him down one would try to pass them they would be penalized they would go from running second, trying to pass for the lead back to third. Ross maintained the lead. So like when I hear the comments of, man, we're going to work on this car this winter. What have you been waiting on? Because this cars look like this for two years. They need to get aggressive. They need to go after some of these changes. They need to stop putting these teams in an expensive science project, which is what all these tests are. Who pays for the test? The teams. The team staffs it. They supply the car. They

supply the motor, they supply the driver, they supply all these things, the miles that it takes to get the hauler there, the airplane ride, get the crew guys there. Stop with the science projects. Go in here and do what the drivers are asking you to do. You know, Steve Phelps, Steve O'Donnell, those guys addressed the media this week. And they basically said, we're going to try all these things, but horsepower is probably our last thing that we're going to look at. We're willing to look at it, but it's probably last. We're going to work on the gearing. We want to work on all these things. What are we waiting on? Hurry up and do it. I think you're, like, and the thing is, first of which you talk about the expenses and travel,

like the test is coming up is in Phoenix. Like, they've got to go right back out there in a couple weeks. Well, at least it's close. It's only 1,600 miles. But, you know, I think that we saw, you know, we saw at Martinsville and you saw it again yesterday that different tire, whatever they're doing at the tire, is going in the right direction. So that might be the biggest thing we've got to fix is the tire. You know, if you get a tire that wears out and we can't, you know, I listened to Denny's

show last week and he was talking about like the tire was really good it laid rubber down but then once it laid rubber down it became everybody then the tire stops wearing because it's it's taking the abrasive in the racetrack it's just laying rubber on it so then it's eventually stops wearing and that's when we all become you know we all start running the same speed so we need if we can just get a tire that continues to wear somehow um you know and and that's that's on good year obviously good year needs to be safe they they can't have a debacle like they had at indie that year um but they they're I feel like a lot of this is going to be on them here to get this racing better because we've seen the little changes they made to the tire now is the two races they've done it with is trending in the right direction. So that's that that that would be my focal point. And obviously we talked about, we'll beat to death on here about the shifting, which sounds like they're they're trying to do something about. But I think that the tire might be the end all be all for especially as big as it is. Yeah, probably the most surprising thing for me all day watching that race play out. And clearly Christopher Bell never really had a fair shot. to show his hand having the flat that he had going into the corner and wrecking.

But when you look at Hendrick Motorsports, which is one of the most dominant teams in all motorsports in the world in terms of their success, they struggled yesterday. I mean, when William had, obviously started from the pole, had the first pit stop, pit stall, you know, went out, led some laps. So, man, once he got mired up, once he got in traffic, done. And I was really surprised that Blaney, the Ford team that we've been saying all year, man, Ford's struggling other than Chris Buster. Forgell don't have any wins, you know, and then boom, Blaney, the Ford team is the guy to beat.

And it's obviously, I mean, when you saw the information coming out after practice that on the long run, Blaney's got the best car. Well, he qualified 15th. And you're sitting here saying, ooh, he may not be a factor. This is a short race. It's only 312 laps. He obviously drove up to the front. But even while he's driving to the front, he's typical Ryan Blaney, he's going nuts.

He's screaming saying, I can't do anything. I can't pass. I'm stuck. But as that race went on, it was obvious that he was the best car. And I would have lost this bet a hundred times over when the last pit stop happened. And Larson come off pit road first. I was like, well, this is over. You just gave the best driver in the world better track position.

But that wasn't the case. Something that I found out today that I really didn't like. And I think this is one thing that kept the 24 in the race was that first pit stall selection. and when I seen him qualify on the poll on Saturday, I was like, well, that's a big deal. Like that might have won him in the championship because you've seen like, I don't know,

you guys have had polls this year, I think, right? Like that number one pit stall is usually worth two spots. Yeah, we had it a couple times this year. It's just, no matter what your pit stop is, it's usually worth two spots. You know, it's just,

it's just the way it is. And so I'm like, man, that's going to be a big deal for him. But what I did not realize was, did you know that the championship guys get the first four pit selections? Yeah. I didn't, I think that's dumb.

Like, I think if you don't, it should be the same as it always is. If you qualify like you should get a shit pit stall. It's also the qualifying thing too. I don't, I still don't know. They get the best qualifying times because they all go at the end. I don't mind that because that keeps it kind of, I think they should all be in the same group, though. Like I changed it.

I mean, you've earned where you're going. Yeah, I don't, yeah, I don't know. I'm not so bad about that. But I think if you qualify, you know, them guys qualified 15th. And I think that's one he was behind the, they should get the 15th, 16th best stalls. That's part of it If you have a shit stop, you should get a Pitt stall. But, you know,

I'll change my mind if we ever make the Final Four on that. Was that always the case? I don't think so. I don't think it was either. I saw it on Reddit the other day and I text Bob this morning and I said, I don't even know, is this true? I don't think this is the first year. I think it's the only fair way

to do it in terms of you're racing three guys for a championship. You're not racing 33 guys for a championship. So where you're saying to do it, treat it like you normally would treat it, you're putting that fourth guy potentially at a big deficit when in reality all the TV coverage is about those four guys. All the hype all week is about those four guys. So if somebody has a problem, why stick in between a Rick Ware and a B.J. McLeod car, you know, that they're going to have cars coming around and

cars in the way all day. So I don't disagree with what you're saying, but it's, I don't know how you do it fairly because to your point, they should all four. qualify back to back to back to back. They shouldn't be in two different groups because how much can the track cool down or heat up from group one or group two? We've seen it all year. So I know what they're trying to do and I don't I don't fault them at all for that. I just think you're forcing it too much. Let it play out. If you came if you brought your A game and you qualify right, then that's what you get. I don't we force everything though. I'm not saying we don't force a lot. But I don't know. I mean like it's just like people were debating. Okay, you guys,

work the truck race, right? How many times... I did like half of it or something? How many times did NASCAR come over the radio at the end of the race and scold you as spotters to get these drivers under control? I don't think it ever happened. Maybe one time? How many times would have happened if David Hoots was in that booth?

Oh. They would have started from the lap one before anything went wrong. We would have known that Big Brother was watching over us, and we also would have known when he said that over the radio that they're listening to all of us. us and that we better deliver the message. Quit your Jimmy Jacking. That was what it was. I mean, we.

Yeah, it was that or I, or hey, you know, quit or I'm going to post you. You know, you can go to the back and think about it. But my point is, like, I don't want to see a rule for a rule for a rule. But at the end of the day, sometimes you've got to send the police in there and say, hey, y'all cut this crap out. You're messing up my show. And so for us to have Friday night going as long as it did. And then when did you say they said?

something to the drivers? It was towards the day. Very late. Like, you know. I was already out. Yeah, you were gone. It was maybe the last restart saying. So this is on Sunday over the radio.

No, that was on, no. That was on Friday night. Friday night. Then they don't, they said something. I'm sorry. Yeah. In the driver's meeting, I guess Elton said, you saw what not to do Friday night. You saw what to do how they did it last night.

Let's make it more like last night. So when Blaney hit Ross Chastain, Ross Chastain's spotter was fussed out by a NASCAR official. Really? Yes. The official went down there and said, what are you doing? And the guy's like, what am I doing? I'm trying to want to race, right?

But he didn't want Ross Chastain to be, I don't know, racing, I guess, plenty of hard because why, here comes Truex in the picture. Like, they didn't want another shisho on their hands. So, like, I just think we got to get back to the resource. spec thing, but I don't know how we do that and do it right, because these kids are learning to race like idiots on eye racing. They're learning a race like idiots at their local short track. I mean, we see a video every single week on Twitter where some up-and-comer is just completely acting like a moron on the racetrack. And by the time they get to the truck series, there's 10

of them out there acting like complete morons. And then what happens to those guys? Well, they eventually graduate to the Xfinity series where they also are going to race like morons. There's a lot of guys. They get pushed up too quick, and they definitely try too hard. there. I think one of them might have might have wrecked you the other day. Yeah.

That's a kid that's been thrown out of the car store. I think it's a in the house. Ladies and gentlemen, he's made it.

Bring your ass over here. Come on a. You're doing over there. Bring the beer with you. You bought some bushlight. That was kind of you. God damn, Joel. I mean,

that's Joel rolls in with a suitcase of beer. I mean, a legit suitcase of beer. I mean, a 18 pack. I mean, how many,

you think this show is. 18 pack of beer. Hey, we definitely got to get, Andrew, by all means, let's stop the show to get the release signed before we get Joel miced up and his headset on it. So, Joel, I'll set you up

because I've known you the longest out of any of us, us three. We've been on the roof together for probably 25 years, it seems like. You got your start, though, back in the day with who? He's a big boys. When I first started,

You want with TJ? I mean, I don't know how far you want to go back. I drove a show car. I want to go back to the beginning. A show car. And I wasn't very good at that either. You're one of them guys that revs the motor up? Anybody else over there?

Yeah, it sounds like you're setting the timing at like $97,000. That's what they do. You hear them down there all the time. I did the show car for Junior Johnson's deal in 91 with Jeff Bodine. And the show car thing's pretty cool, except you're in Richmond and the race is in Bristol. So I'm like, I'm at grocery. stores and this and that. I said, this ain't going to work.

So I got done with that. But I want to back up just a minute right here. All right. Show car driver. They have to be good with the public. That's not really one of your fortains. That was another reason I didn't work out.

So the show car driver's got to get there. Got to park the truck and trailer. Got to get the car out. Talk to people. All these people are going to come out. That ain't it. Talk to people. And back then, a show car at a grocery store was a big deal.

That's a big deal. But the reason it almost worked for me, it was the Budweiser show car. I mean, back when Jeff O'Dine was wheeling that thing. Oh. So, you know, you imagine you're 20 years old. You got a new job as a show car driver, and you get two cases of beer a week for free. So I thought I'd won the lottery back. This is starting to explain a lot.

Yeah, you were 21 years old. Yeah, you were 21. Oh, I'm sorry, yes. What was I thinking? I went through like three drinking eight years. You know, there was one of those deals where it was legal, it's not legal. I mean, so whatever. So you quit show car driving, then what happened?

I pull up at Alan Kowikis. It's kind of a weird deal. You pull up, and I guess that's a spire shop now. You can kind of pull up there's a bank, and I just drive by into where the snack truck was at, because I knew what the snack truck was about, obviously. So they're out there, and I walk up to the guy, and I say, hey, bud, I want a job.

And I'll work here for free until you think you need to pay. pay me. So he hums that over a little bit and he said, come on inside. So I went straight in the bathrooms and cleaned the bathrooms and then they rolled out this big cart with all these parts on it. And I wash parts and bars all day. So at the end of the day, you know, I felt like a robot. And then he said, okay, take all that stuff to the motor shop. We're going to throw it away. Have you got anything to do tomorrow? Because we're going to Daytona for three days tests. And I said, no, he said, we'll be here at 7 o'clock. So I worked for Allen for probably. Probably, I don't know, the whole winter, because the race season was over.

I worked for him the whole winter. What year was this? This is going into 92. The year he wins the championship. Yeah. So I start out with him, you know, just mess around all winter for free. And at some point, he had to go to Atlanta for the Hooters car and get a photo shoot. And he said, I need somebody to drive the car.

And I've been working for free, you know, going to change tires almost. And he says, if you're going to change tires almost. If you'll take that car, you know, yeah, yeah. So I took the car on Saturday, which is fine. You know, you're going under as Hooters Girls and Allen and all. That ain't a bad thing. No, it's not a bad gig at all. Free Hooters stuff.

So you got Hooters deal, Budweiser deal, this guy. Yeah, everything. Yeah. So then I get back, and he writes me a check for $100. And I thought, okay, maybe I'm on the deal, you know. And stupid me cashed the check. Because after that, Allen paid me $250 cash every Friday. He would just come out with money.

I guess that was part of the per diem or whatever. But he paid me then until like we left, there was six of us that quit Allen's in 92 and started, including Ray Everingham, who's a little bit smarter than me. Brian White, so he did a little bit better. But we did that deal and started Jeff Gordon's deal. And then I spent about, it seemed like a lifetime there

because that was hard work. Jeff was awesome. A rookie year would be running second and wrecked 20 times. So you worked eight days a week. Ray was going to make it perfect as he did, you know, and they won championships and done this and that. But it was a tough go. And after that, with that deal with Ray, I didn't know if I wanted to really race.

So I kind of dropped back to Xfinity. I got to get my stuff back together because I'm not ready for this all. I was driving a truck. Me and Brian Weitzel are driving a truck. We're doing this. We're doing that. And it's, you know, at 6 o'clock every day, Ray would come around and say, get a dinner order.

So you knew you were working. But now, Ray, I love Ray. Ray taught you how to work. We had meetings at 7 o'clock, which meant you better have your ass in a seat at quarter till 7 with a pad and pin in your hand because, you know, don't be coming up the steps to get to the meeting, be there. And that's what a lot of guys in racing don't have now.

You know, we sit out, and it's kind of funny. We got Joe Campbell that spots for the 14. So I got feet of one. I got Andy Houston, all old school guys. And we get, you know, we're at the car. 20 minutes till every morning. Joe's not. What time you're thinking on Joe?

And it was fun of the other day. And we're three, you know, we got three-hour advantage from the West out and, you know, three-hour time. Yeah. It was like 28. They said, no, and he's never, I mean, it's usually just straight up. If we say eight, I said, you got to do the other deal. You got to tell him like 15 minutes different.

But, I mean, you would get your ass left. We've all been left because there's that 15-minute deal that these cup guys had back in the day that doesn't exist now. There's a lot of things that don't exist now. And the further we get into that box, we'll get into that. But from the Kowicki deal, went to Jeff Gordon, and then after that bounced down, and then, you know, had an unfortunate about a three-year deal with Kenny Schrader, who is zero fun.

I mean, so. He don't know how to have fun. No, he got no idea. That's why I come in with a box of beer. But, like, Schrader's deal was so fun. We were doing the cup stuff, and that was when, you know, you were still mechanic and a little bit on the car and spotting. Well, then I just kind of turned into a spotter. Well, then me and Schrader were dirt race all week.

So we'd leave on Tuesday, go dirt race at about three different spots. And then by the time the weekend come, you couldn't even drink by the weekend because you had so much fun. And you've been to Wheatland, you've been to Farmer City, all these dirt tracks. And Schrader on. You're flying a lot of places too, right? Oh, yeah. I mean, he had two King Airs. So we would leave one of those on Tuesday and just, I mean, we raced.

and then we played and we raced and we played and I mean I read the other day where he says he's going to do it 30 more years and I think hell I'm 55 so I know Shreder's a week or two older than me what was his pilot's name that was famous around here Earl Earl Earl Earl and Earl would come in it was so I'm telling you I could sit here for six months but Earl would I sit up front with Earl and Shreder sit in the back because you couldn't let Shrader sit in the front because he got up there one time and he was he was telling you he had some wine and he kind of fell asleep in front of a king air and we've all been in the front of a king air yeah yeah well he poured the wine right in the aviard so now the fuses are popping out and the it's going bad and then another time he tries to help like i did whether i'd turn the radio or do you know we've all switched you know king air is pretty simple until you need to whatever but schrader shuts the fuel off so they're thinking they're going down and they are down at the interstate looking to land and finally Earl Seeson hits the switch

but I mean Earl would come in Did he flip it off on purpose? No, Shreder was just trying to help but he was trying to save fuel too I guess I don't know what that plan was So you got to tell the story about the time that the pilot shows up and y'all just sit there for a while

and sit there for a while and you ain't moved yet Now which location is this because there's a couple of them I've had some pilot's He couldn't find the keys to the plane Oh, now this is kind of Schrader, when he bought his second King Air, he bought Rusty Wallace's 200. Schrader had a 100. So Earl gets from a 100 to 200, and you would think it would be a lot of difference.

But sitting on the 200, and here we are, you know, okay, let's go. And Earl's like, I'm going to have to get him to come out and show me how to start it. So he goes in and gets Rusty's pilot to come out and show him how to get it going. I didn't know that would be that much difference. It's like a plane with a pilot. I don't know how to start it. That's scary already. Earl would do some of the stuff.

Like we'd come in and he's going, come on baby, come on baby. And I'm sitting there with him. You know, and that come on baby stuff, I don't like any of that. And I'd be like,

Earl, you let me get the flaps that not working. You know, and we come in and Schrader, you know, we're upside down, we're flying through because we're going to the dirt race. Because Schrader's getting

$5,000 to show up at these dirt races, so we're going. You know, no matter. We get up there in the weather's just terrible. And then you land, and I got the door down and we wake Shreder up and we get out and I was like give me a cigarette I smoked in give me a cigarette and give me a beer you know I mean soon as he's but it it was fun times I mean like you said you know in our years it it has come there's been so much fun and then I don't know

they start when they started fun sucking is when I started that's when my attitude got back that's when my attitude's been bad for quite some time when did you get hooked up with Biffle because obviously y'all had a hell of a long run ago what was your last year of straying? Um, it was, he was in Cup in 2000. It was before he went to Bam. He was still at a 36 car. Yeah, because I started a 36. I don't know if you, me and you didn't miss each other farther. So he, it was Biffles, Biffle was running Xfinity. And Jack Roush was supposedly spotting for him or Max or one of them. Max Jones. Yeah. So Max Jones, great guy. But they did not have any, they went to Daytona and Max did it, I guess. And I was spotting for Schrader in Cup at MB2. And then, um, they asked me Randy Goss, which I will get into him in a second too, because this is a bigger story. But they came up and said, would you consider spotting for Biffle? And I'm like, yeah, I don't care. And everybody's going to say, oh, man, you don't want, you know, this is awful.

You don't want nothing to do with it. This guy's going to scream and yell. And I spotted for Biffle for 16 years, and we never had to cross work. I mean, we still go fishing together in Alaska once a year. That's weird. I did one year. he yelled to be every he was just mad at you because I'd done

stupid it wasn't your fault but I mean me and Biffel had a great run Brett was we became great greater friends because of that because him and Elliot you know they shared a hanger or whatever and we did a lot of flying together

but it you know it's it's been a great deal I've been fortunate to work with some great people I mean I started out with Jeff Gordon you know and you're with Quilickey Jeff Gordon and you know I did a stint with the Krog brothers up at Junior Johnson's old shop, which was fun. And, you know, then you end up with Schrader. Like I said, it's just hard to, it's all fun.

And then you get Biffle, who's pretty fun. And, I mean, and then Almerola, which is probably the reason I'm still alive is him, because he's the most down to earth. You know, kind of kept you in the road. Kept me in the road. I mean, when they did away with a private radio, and then it went to the channel two that everybody could hear, I'm not sure how I stayed in the sport.

I mean yesterday I'm begging my guy to wreck the three. And there's four laps to go in the race. You know what I mean? In this championship, but the three is just all over him. And I said, if he touches you, just please settle what he started six years ago when he turned us head on into the wall

at the Daytona 500. When there was a lane on either side of us and we were not blocking like you block. Yeah. You could go any way you wanted to. Instead, he runs into him and then turns him head on end of the wall. And I've tried ever since.

in to make sure they rolled the top back on his car to get him out. And I could never talk him into it. So unsuccessfully. But I like the guy. I know that'll have to come out. No, no, no. I'm good. You're good.

So what you're saying is you've had a little bit of a grudge. Well, you have not much of a grudge holder. I'm going to tell you how calm Almerola is. It's not yesterday. It's every day. And it's the nature. It's why I'm probably going to do, if I do two cup races, it's great. But I'm going to do some Saturday stuff.

I had an idea of doing some Friday stuff, which is a little bit more of a challenge because I tried it. And like you say, the race was three hours or something. And we ran a cup race in three hours. It's just a different mentality. You know, the kids that are racing trucks are different. The product's great. The product on Saturday is phenomenal. Yeah.

And then you get to Sunday and you're like, man, if we just qualify a little bit better, we would have been up front. But, you know, we miss a little bit in qualifying. You can't pass nobody. When you catch somebody, they start that coaching and lane swapping and all that. So it's an absolute joke. Oh, I begged him all day to wreck the 22 yesterday. Because the crew chief's telling me what, and I mean, it's Coleman's job.

I guess if that's where you want to do your job, I don't do that. Yeah. There's a lot of things I don't do. Maybe why I'm not going to be a spot. anymore because now you have to have like I own a damn iPhone which I got on me somewhere I got an iPad so I can watch hockey hockey on the road exactly Freddie knows me I mean and we got a hockey story too and I do the old-fashioned way I don't lap times tell me in my left ear and I'll tell him yeah but I'm not looking at a computer screen and God bless the ones it can because yesterday's like a 312 lap race

and I'll be like, 50 to go, and the creature's like, no, it's 62. You know, because I don't, when it's an, if it ain't a 400 or 500. I do have a lap counter. The lap counter helps a bunch. That's what I'm telling you. Like he says, to the end of the race, end of the stage, and I'm like, that's the only damn feature I needed. Yeah.

Listen, tell me when this s's going to be over. It does. It does. It does. It does. It does. It does. It does. You know, because if it's stage racing or you're trying to get to, but, I mean, but, now,

me and Freddie had a funny story this week, like in the Xfinity, we're trying to get going. and, you know, he's a Rangers guy, and I'm a Minnesota wild guy. So we're playing each other, and my team is, obviously, Jeff Gluck, know about that because I heard he say he's mad at the wild. He's mad at the wild. I think anybody that follows you on Twitter knows you're mad at the wild. Yeah, I'm going to try to clean it up a little bit, but it probably won't walk. No, you're not.

So we're playing each other, and we're on a big skid, just awful. Well, I mean, like three minutes into the game, Freddie's spotting. I'm not paying attention to spotting. I'm hockeying, you know? Because C can pretty much handle himself out there. So I said, Freddy, it's three to nothing. You on four shots. So Freddie just forgets about the hockey game.

I'm like, I'm good. We're up three nine and it's over. Yeah, and I didn't even tell you we pulled the goalie. I didn't even get to that part, which they finally put Flurry and it got a little better. So this goes on, whatever. I'm at dinner. And I text him and I'm like, overtime. And I'm sure he thought, what the hell is he talking about?

I thought you were still there racing. Is there a relay checker? And then we end up winning the game in a shootout, which I appreciated the spare point because we've been suffering a little bit. I was, by the time you had text me that we lost, I was, I was, had probably just put this stupid gold chain on. Which I really liked it. I told you.

I said, if that thing don't turn you green. I stole this thing from large from Barstool. He was, I don't know if I stole it or he gave it. I mean, one of the two things. I woke up with it on Sunday. Hey, it's like that box of beer, free stuff's good. Yeah, man. I'm hoping.

I'm going to sell it probably here. I'm sure it's worth a bunch of money. But, yeah, I couldn't believe he texted me. We lost 5'4. Up 3-0 in the first five minutes of the game. So you're at the barstool, whatever, dying deal, and I'm on top of my game. We go right around.

Timmy, God bless him. I don't know how him, Andy Houston, and Joe Campbell, have put up with me because y'all know how I am in like a five-end deal. I'm aware. Imagine being in a damn rental car. Oh, I know. After the race, and you get to pick the wrong lane and there's shuffling by us on both stuff.

I'm like, Joe, can you get, come on. and then you get there and you sit on the plane for seven hours. Oh, man. We probably should start to show at this point. Nah. Is he still preliminary? Oh, yeah. We're still just.

Where's chest red? Yeah, we kicked him out. We heard you were on the way. We kicked him right now. Oh, I got a bump the guy. Yeah, we had a champ. Yeah, we had to get rid the champ for you.

But yeah. So how was your race yesterday aside from trying to kill Austin Dillon? Actually, we were really good. Like, we went out to practice for the 20 minutes or whatever or no, 50 minutes. Yeah. Yeah, that was like took an extra battery this week. And we're dynamite. Like we're with the 12.

You know, we pass the 12. He passed us. We, you know, really good. Qualifying, you know what I'm saying? I turn. Harvard goes to like top of the sheet. When it comes to us, we, you know, it felt great. It just wasn't great.

28. But we methodically, you know, after about 10 or so laps, we're able to pass and got through some. And had the rowdy not spun there at the end, we're going to run 10th. So that's a lot of cars. The boys were fantastic on pit road. But I'm telling you, Drew Blick and Sturfer, if just how he says, hey. That's it. You doubt it.

I did it. I thought I did it. I'm kind of cross-eyed right now because we flew all night. But he has put together, like that group, whoever's going to drive that car. That's a plus. But they're a really good group. And as you guys know, as you guys know, there's a lot of stuff going on over there. It's not going to, that group could be the new, you know, forever with the 10 on.

Forever. I mean, for tomorrow. 10 ever. 10 ever, yeah. Yeah. But it's a solid group and there's a little bit of up and downs and, you know, some stuff's going to change over there. Or so they say, I don't know. Yeah, I mean, TJ, I don't know why you tried to crash me on the end of their race yesterday.

Yeah, that was, that was, we got bored. God, Brad was really good. I mean, like I saw him coming early and often, you know, because he'd come by a couple times. Yeah, we were pretty good from the back. We were, we were probably going to finish. We probably had a seventh to tenth place cars somewhere in there.

Maybe, maybe a little bit better if we could just could have, we couldn't fire off. We couldn't go the first 20 laps, but we were good in the long run. But long run speed nowadays doesn't really pay off. No, because it's so hard to pass. everywhere, really, but it's just you can't forfeit. And that's why you see guys we were talking about Ross, racing, you know, blocking. Because if you could block a guy for five or ten laps to keep behind you, you don't know,

it's going to flip eventually and you're going to drive away from him probably. So, you know, you saw that yesterday. And like, even if you're better on the long run, it's still going to take you, you're going to use your sh-h-h-up trying to pass one guy. It's going to take you 10 laps to get around him. Sometimes if you can do it for two laps, the guy can run, you can run a guy down. And if you can just take his line away for two laps, then he's seven back and he never gets in closer.

And I think that's why some of these guys are not going to race on Sunday. I don't blame them. I know it's not fun. You know, you could see, you just see how much fun Colcester and them guys have racing those cars on Saturday. And this other deal is tough. It's tough on us. It's changed everything. I'll tell you what ain't tough on y'all.

After 25 years going on the roof, I saw y'all got some shade. It was nice. They were throwing a little shade at me and you probably is. Phoenix does it right. I mean, it was either sandwiches or t-shirts. They were the first ones to, you know, they tell us everywhere we can't have bathrooms. And they got this, well, we've, how we're 400 feet in the air there probably? They drop them.

They've got four port-a-john sitting on the roof. And they're nice. And they're cleaner than the bathroom in my house. Yeah. Yeah. And got spotters only on it. And I appreciate that. Yeah.

And then coolers full of water, T-shirts, sandwiches. Yeah. Like, it's always been, it's had all the amenities we've ever needed. Unbelievable. It's in an unbelievably bad spot. but for where they put it they do get to stuff I mean the amenities are amazing

thanks to Rocky we never got I thought we removed I love Rocky he come by and seen me last week I saw Rocky he was giving Pat I got shout out though

don't let me butcher this name Latasha Causey right? I heard she showed up before the race she did she came by she said hi to everybody I didn't see her I was probably a little late

you know what is even like they come up there and asked if they could do even more to make it better like not just here's your roof be quiet or here's some shade be quiet I even heard they said they were going to put a little thing out of the back so we have this amazing shade right

they put it above our heads and obviously being the smart asses that we are you know me and Herm were talking and I said well I mean it doesn't know it's no good there's Amson right here it's like you know I was I was 100% joking you know I was like man this is awesome because you can still feel a difference even if it's not walking the sun directly all afternoon yeah 10 degrees cool and then and then spotter Julie came up and was hanging out for the bench. She's like, yeah, we're going to block this backside off too because the son's obvious. I'm like, holy shit. Like it's really, they've done a lot, you know, that's a tough

spot for them. There's really no where they could, they can move us. They move us, you know, around the front like 10 guys want. And then you can't see pit road at all if you're down the back part of it or whatever. They really got what they got there. And, you know, they've moved some of the campers down in, I guess, one and two now. Yeah, it's helped us some, you know. I mean, it it is what it is and that's one of the great challenges of what we do you know they're all not the same do they at least work with us oh yeah they know and try so that's one of my favorite places to go as far and we just did it with um frank callahur and chip were on the roof at homestead yeah and they were like what can we do to make this better you know and there there's a railing that does like that covers half

the roof and we're like t j's like can you put a railing all the way so we can you know hook our radios and stuff whatever and they're like oh yeah piece of cake that's no problem you know so they're like chip comes up a lot now and since he's got involved away from one track and does more stuff at all the tracks, a lot of stuff's got better. And, you know, Chip's a good guy. He's one of them that stuff will show up and you know it's probably from him and he's not trying to get credit for it. Like the food or the ice cream or the whatever area. Yeah, usually Frank does a, usually does. Them sandwiches start showing up at Daytona those box lunches. Yeah. Yeah, Frank. I'm just glad y'all got a shade. Well, the shade's great.

It's a big deal. We, uh, we made it through Homestead this year. I mean, you got muffins, so you got coffee. The nicest, like the, I want to buy that port-a-john and take to my place in Minnesota. That is a nice port-a-john. That thing is phenomenal. It looks like a bathroom. Where was the guy this year?

The guy, I don't even who the guy is, that chewed our ass out last year on the roof. I didn't see. And they want to be outside for like seven seconds. He's talking about how hot it was. I didn't see him this year. And then they gave t-shirts, and then we got hot dogs a week after that.

But he come up. Somebody. Who does he work for? I think he's still around somewhere. I mean, he chewed everybody's ass. I don't want to be outside. I'm going to be out here in this heat. I mean, it's amazing.

I don't know how. It's kind of like you weren't very good at your job. So now you just run this deal. How about that? We've seen a bunch of people that way, though, in this sport. It happens at race teams. It happens at all levels. I feel like a –

I feel like a crew chief – There's a team president, though, that I'm not lying to y'all. Like, he would get fired or he would become team president, run the race team out of business. and they go to the next team and get a raise in a bigger house and then run that one out of business and I mean it just kept going. I don't remember the last time

I saw a crew chief get fired. Has a crew chief ever been fired? Like they all just get a reposition. They move them to a different, like all they do is go another level up in the stairs. You never see them again. Special projects manager.

Yeah, there's a lot of stuff they can just give yourself. Well, that's not really true. I bet you, and I'm not saying these guys should have been let go or fired because a guy like Kenny Francis, I wouldn't let him leave my company if you paid me to let him leave. But I bet you Hendrik Motorsports has a dozen former Cup crew chiefs standing in their race shop Monday morning that don't even travel anymore.

It's very strange that once a change is made and you bring up the guy from the trucks or Exfendi or whatever, that the other guy just is all of a sudden over something that didn't exist last week. Hey, now I'm looking after what's... You're the director of competition a mile to half. Half races. There's some kind of building there and there's some kind of building there and in the shop

nobody's using, but I'm going to go make sure what's going on down there. And then, like the war room, I think either, like the engineer yesterday told me I could come down to do the war room, you know, since I'm not, he said, because, you know, you can see some stuff and do some stuff.

And I said, well, I think I could spot from the war room. I mean, for enough money. And I don't know. The war room's probably a little bit much for me because I would show up in full camouflage. Well, what's weird is, RCR won the race.

a couple years ago from the war room. Yeah. They were making the call from the pit strategy perspective there. The war room is kind of like when the crew chief was suspended at Rockingham, and you look up and he's in road two, or he's in the spotter stand, or he's in the stands. But the war room's gotten pretty good. I mean, there's so much it goes on that I can't hear.

That's another reason I'm quitting. They all talk on the intercoms and all this other stuff. And I'm like, I never, anytime anybody asked me how Boa was doing, in practice. I have no idea because he don't say about on the radio. He comes in parot and silence. All we hear is silence. Yeah. Coming to you, spotter. Yeah. And they don't

that's the thing. 30, 33 years in this sport, 25 years spotting. And they say, coming to you, spotter. I don't give a damn which team it is. If it's your cut team, your truck team, your ARCA, new team, they don't nobody know the spotter's name. No. Come to you, Spotter. I always tell,

I said, kind of 10, 4, truck driver, or crew driver, whoever it is, I got you, crew guy. I mean, it's great. We've got, that is one of the best jobs in racing. And it, you know, it's funny because it's 80 days really anymore if you don't do any expensive practice. And I started working for free like I told you all. And I won't do it for 175,000.

I'll say, what's that? It's time to go, brother. It's going to be better for everybody else. Speaking of time to go, Andrew, start the show. Let's throw in the spot-on, spot-off. From what we haven't covered, covered yet. Spot-on, spot-off. Spot-off.

Spot-off. Spot-on. It was super fun yesterday to ride her out there. I am spot-off. Damn. Where did he come from? But this first spot-on, spot-off topic, Tony Stewart calls the truck race a shit show. We have a bunch of other quotes, and we actually have a clip of Tony talking about it. Any of these young kids, tonight's the example that you want to go off of, not last night. That was an S show last night.

S show. And the scary part, and I had conversations with people today about it. And what scares me is that these kids watch that and think that that's what they're supposed to do. And you go to go car races and kids' parents are fighting because somebody's dumping, one kid's dumping another kid because that's what they see on TV. And tonight was a great example that that's not how you have to race. You can race clean. You can race door to door. You can race hard. But you can race each other with respect. And I think that's the truck series has a zero percent amount of it. Obviously, we touched on a lot of what happened to the truck race already, but we have not touched on Corey Hime, Carson, Host of Arbett. Spot on, Spot Off on Tony's quote there.

I'm spot on. We've talked about it before. We've said the truck series has changed. And it has a lot. It's not as much fun. It doesn't have, you know, when Brad had his truck teams and Ryan Blaney was in him, there was a lot more respect back then when you had the in the truck series. And it just seems like it's progressively gotten worse. Yeah. I mean, I tweeted the other night. It was in Carson, like God, almighty.

Like we just talked. We were just been, we've been singing his praises here for about a month and a half, two months. Brad had a board about, about Brett. I mean, he got a t-shirt. I had the T-shirt on. I saw him in the truck. I was like, my goodness. But he just screwed up.

And I saw it coming. Like you saw the lap before. And listen, here's where it comes. Like, here's where it is. You know, the 11 was the best truck.

It was pretty clear all night long. He was the best truck. I thought that I was curious, like the strategy the way I played out, made it a little more interesting, obviously. And because I was like, man,

he might be in trouble here because he, a lot more trucks did that flipping of the stage than I think they were. Yeah. I think he was further back than he wanted to be. But he was further back than he wanted to be. still going to win. And now, I mean, the 42 wasn't very good. I mean, they were probably third or fourth best truck of the playoff guys.

And the 11 catches them, runs him down, catches them, passes them. And you're like, you know what? I still got a set of tires laying in there. I'm beat right now. Like, at that point, you just, hey, I'm, you know, all right, is what it is. There's going to be 37 more caution. So I just buy my time. I still got time here. But what happens is you see, he's blocking

the shit out of him as he catches him. Then as soon as he catches him, he's, you know, he's trying to pack air. And then he dives into three and just and loses the nose I'm sorry, drives into one. I'm still back racing there five years ago. I did that seven time yesterday. I never got used to. So, you know, and he

just slides across the apron and cleans him out. It's like my God. Did he get tight? Did he get to the gas too soon? Did he do it on purpose? On the replay. Which one are you picking? I think you saw, I saw Corey wiggle a little bit because Corey definitely entered in a lane that he wasn't

really wanting to enter in to try to protect him. And I think Carson was going to be so close at any point, any little slip or anything they're going to hit. I think I don't know if Carson went in there necessarily to turn him right away, but I think that slip there gave him an opportunity to hit him. I don't think he wanted to wreck him, but he did. I don't think it was intentional, but it's just. But it happened.

Yeah. That was the only way you were going to get back in front of him. It's just his, his track record doesn't matter if it's intentional or not because it looks intentional. I agree. I think it probably wasn't intentional. But like you look up at one point yesterday when Ross is just all over the 12. Like if you don't let me lead, I'm going to wreck you.

And finally, he just lets him go and goes to third. I mean, nobody's watching their cars. We're all looking at that. I don't mean to get off topic. But I saw Soco come scream at McReynolds. I mentioned that earlier before you got here. So I'm glad you're vacuum air. Was in Socos here going to calm him down, maybe to keep the host of our thing from happening.

They wanted Ross to calm now. Because Ross, yeah, they're not saying anything to the 12 that I can see. Yeah, I'll take one of them. I'm about out. I figured. Sorry, I didn't mean to get off one. I didn't even know. Well, yeah.

Listen, I don't think. We're still there to win the race. I wanted to win that race. Exactly. You did. We fought, we battled, you know, because you guys drove up to us a couple times. Yeah, I mean, we're all there to win, right? We race clean.

You weren't blocking me. I wasn't blocking you. Look back at this truck series thing, though, which turned into a complete debacle. We all agree that was a debacle. But the car. thing, listen, nobody was more vocally against how he was racing and how he was acting and the things he was doing on a racetrack than I was. I burnt the guy out of the ground. I loved it. I mean, I normally don't say much, but when that was going on, I was liking, like and liking, like.

I mean, because it was every week. He was doing it, right? And then, and then he, it's like he admits it, okay, I have a problem. And he comes on here and he talks about his problem. And you can tell that he realizes I have got to make progress in this area or no one's going to hire me eventually. This is going to be my way out of this sport if I don't fix it. When Dale Jr. sits me down,

the first thing he says to me is, you ain't going to wreck my cars, are you? That's the first words out of his mouth. Well, it was the same conversation that the guy, what's the guy who drives a one again? Ross was going to have yesterday had he a mess with the 12

because he got talked to at some point, remember, and then he started running like he had a plug wire off. his date or a darlington right and then he comes on and is doing great yesterday but then he's trying to run over one of the championship guys and i'm not saying he's not supposed to race right but if he wrecks the 12 yesterday with 75 laps to go or 175 to go just being a you're back at square one getting talked to and then you've got a whole half season try to put that back together in my opinion i just think that carson needs a mentor and maybe has one but i think he needs a full-time mentor

Hey, I'm, uh, you're available. I don't think that's going to help. He needs somebody, listen, Carson, he's obviously got Tyler Green going with him to the Cubs here. He's obviously got Tyler Green leaving Harrison Burton Penske racing to go to Spire Motorsports. Like, Tyler has got to wear this guy out next year and remind him several times during a race when he sees him get in a position where A, he could do something stupid or B, he could lose his temper.

You can't do this right here. Because now Carson is almost back. I don't think he's back fully at square one because the four of us just said we don't know that he wrecked him on purpose. But nonetheless, he wrecked the guy that's leading the championship in a situation where there's only two of you

really in contention to win it. We were watching it. I don't think any of us were surprised that it happened. No. No, you saw it coming for two laps. You can see the way he was driving, it was like...

You can see him in the corner and know that they're going on too far. You knew that the chance was pretty high. Well, something happened a half a lap before, right where they kind of were running each other they were jimmy jacking yeah they were definitely and they said cut that out didn't they they always cut you knock off the jimmy jac but i mean i i truly think and i'm going to die on the sword

fall on the sword i guess i don't think carson hosovar is nowhere near done fixing himself but he has to give himself the tools this winter to fix himself before he gets to Daytona because if he does this dumb in the draft in the Daytona 500 If he does this dumb-b-b-hitted Atlanta the following week when they're in the draft, three-wide running 185 miles an hour and a one. If he does this dumb-b-b-b-at at the fourth, fifth, sixth, seventh, eighth race of the year,

he's going to get crucified. He has got to do what Ty Gibbs did. Do you agree that Ty Gibbs had a reputation of being a little spoiled? Yes. And racing like a complete idiot. Yes. And he's fixed a lot of that. He agrees, too, because I had to go to the truck for that.

He's fixed a lot of that perception this year, though, as a rookie, because he didn't race like a fool. think he's getting a mentor there's somebody that's going to show up over there and do some mentoring for him there is a while it's your you know i mean you got to have that and and believe it or not i was that guy like 25 years ago must about a long time maybe 50 years ago but like when everybody knows the harvick biffel bristol saturday deal when gregg got into him and turned him head on into the wall and i mean i ain't been spotting for gregg for a month or two and i'm like hey man that's a little bit aggressive. He's like, well, I think he let off.

And I'm like, but good grief. The guy hit the wall head on. I mean, we were running all over him. It was kind of like we'd let him go, and then we got back to him, and Harvick was struggling to get off the corner. But there was a time when I was calm and was trying to get him not to wreck people,

you know, because when I got Greg, he was pretty raw and always, you know, flying into trouble and doing this and that. And he got a little better, you know. Kurt and him, but they'd still wreck each other. You know, and I miss the days, like, like I said, I was trying to get my, you can't do that anymore because they got you stirring trace. They got me up by running my mouth. I mean, it's all, and then you go to jail on Tuesday.

Yeah. And to that point, you know, I tweet this the other night, I think, you know, Hyam obviously, his truck was screwed up from, you know, the contact with freezing after he spun. And he's not, he's nowhere near as fast as he was. And, you know, he, Carson goes to the outside of him and he wrecks him. And, you know, obviously, Corey can't say it publicly. Yeah, I wrecked him because he wrecked me. He, fuck him or whatever. But it's pretty clear and obvious what happened there, you know. And I think, in my opinion, that's way worse than what Carson did.

First of all, it is. Change the outcome. First of all, Carson is villain number one. Carson is the bad guy, this whole story right now. And now you just gave up all of your moral high ground to stuff him in the wall. And now you cost Grant and Fringer an opportunity at a championship. You know, he's in position. to win. Don't know if the yellow doesn't come out for something else, but he's going to win

the championship if that thing stays green. So now you cost him a championship, but you also just take, you know, you get if obviously you're pissed off. I'd be, I'd be irate myself. Just get out and beat the guy's ass. Or handle it however you want, but now, now you're affecting the outcome of the championship. You're doing the same thing that Carson did. And you always dragged somebody else in. It was like the deal with the Gibbs and Seaget, Vegas, you know, when he tried to take a shot at him and kind of missed and then wrecked a couple of people. And then I got to stay four more hours and Wayne out and, you know, chewed my ass or whatever. But you never can, like you say, I think the best way to handle that is in the coach lot or at the big aisles or something.

The only thing that I think is the only, I mean, I don't want to, it's a terrible move on Corey's part. You shouldn't have done it. But he probably cost Carson the championship because Carson had tires and was coming. And I think if they're going to restart, he's probably going to pass them other times. two guys. So, I mean, it was, you know, I hate to say it. But it's just, it's just turning into a disaster. You know, they don't want something that change, the best part about, I'm going to get it way off top of here, the best part about championship weekend is the tower like it don't exist, because they don't say, which makes it way easier, you know, because they're not trying to manipulate or they're

not looking for debris or they're not trying to, which is the exact opposite of like Talladega. So when we spot Talladega, we have to be way more on our game than anything else. But what are they going to do every time we cross the strike? They're like, new leader, the six. The next lap, new leader, the 10. New leader, the six. So you've got this going on in your head that does not matter. But the best thing about Phoenix is they don't say anything the whole weekend.

They kind of let the races play out. Sorry for getting like on a different page. We should have put that toward the bottom. But I like and then like my question is so Corey wrecks him you know right so he's out there now he's flowing around he's a lap down he gets his and we got a caution caution comes out why is he because now here's what here's a scenario carson's out of the race he's done the 11's back there in the back the last two laps or the last lap end fingers all over the 99 like if you don't park the 11 and end finger somehow wrecks the two of them you're going to let the 11 win the championship after he

just stuffed the guy in the wall attention like this I mean I almost wish that happened like I I was telling something outside of Friday night. I'm like, I wish that Grant would have, because Grant took a shot at, could you imagine Tony's post if that had to happen. Because Grant, I mean, I'll give Grant credit because Grant could have wrecked him. He drove into four, or driving to three. And I'm like, oh, he's squared him up. He's going to hit him.

And he kind of like let it run up the hill and didn't. He let up and graze him. Yeah. And the guys race like that. But if he would have wrecked him and the 11 would have won a championship at that point, I mean, my God. What a fitting. I think he's got to get his mindset right.

I think that Ty Gibbs ran slower this year than he would have run if he had his same mindset as last year. But he cleaned up his brand. He cleaned up his reputation. He gained some respect from his fellow competitors that are out there. And if Carson starts his year off next year in the Cup Series, he's skipping Xfinity. He's going straight to the big boys. He's going to a team that obviously is growing a team that is getting better, a team that's spending a lot of money. He better not race like a full.

So, Sunday, Sunday is way, way different than Saturday. Yeah. I mean, it's like Pee Wee League versus NHL. And I mean, a lot of people don't, you know, the only guy that could never do it on Saturday, they could do it on Sunday was Jimmy Johnson. But a lot of them have been able to do it on Saturday that never had a shot on Sunday.

This will be my tell-all. Ross Chastain got here, and he did a lot of the things that we give Carson crap about, and he got away with it, and he flipped all you off, said, I don't care. He just said it this morning. On our show, I don't care. like Carson

I feel like he's more hated by the way he races I think Ross is perceived as Ross is racing for his team and he's being very selfish people look at Carson to go he's racing like an idiot he's got to stop I saw a Ross tweet or

or maybe a Bob Parker or something last night when I was flying home about the racing that was going on him and the 12 and he's like I didn't give a damn man I don't give a down man but if he'd a wreck you know you can say that after the fact that it turns out good and you didn't

run over your neighbor, Sprink or sister. But had that turned out a different way. He'd have cared. He'd have been back to that. And I need therapy. And there's guys. There's two or three of us that could get it this winter.

Hosevar, the one guy. You, like, if you listen to Danny's podcast, he talked about how stupid he raced last week when he wrecked Ty Gibbs in one and two. You see guys like Reddick

tweeting this dumb bitch never going to learn. I miss that one. Oh, yeah. You know, I think you quote, I think you retweeted it. I almost had another poll. I almost had another poll, but I mean, why are you, what are you doing?

But like, but that just goes to show you, like, these guys, if they have this opinion of you coming in, they are going to make your life miserable. Because you can, in this cup car, you can, you can determine how everything goes. Like, you can. If I don't want to let you buy, you're not getting by. It's an animal. That cup car is a different car to drive, and you're going to come in there, and these guys are know exactly where to be, exactly how to push the buttons to make it super hard on you. It's like my poll last week. was not nothing against that guy.

Are you sure? But there's some, no, there's some people that, you know, just race off the corner. You can, I've never driven a car, but I guarantee you I can keep you from passing me. I did drive a show car for a little bit. And I bet it in some breaks one time for Derek Cope at Mars, which was the scariest day of my life.

But you got, I mean, you got to show some, I mean, it's bad. The Sunday product's bad. That's why I'm on, I'm going to fish on Sunday. Drink on Sundays, fish on Sunday. Probably do a little bit of both. I'm sure. There you go. Next topic, spot on, spot off.

Justin Allgaier said he'd rather spin himself than get into John Hunter Nemechek. That was really early in the race. Would you say Allgaier's lack of aggression there may have cost him a chance at running the championship? No, I think that's the way you're supposed to race. You know, that's that we saw these guys. said they were four wide off a turn two coming to the white flag the four championship guys and they all managed i think the 20 might have had an issue i heard he might have had a right front tire going down um but like and you've seen or he gave cole credit earlier for this joel that you know he has a

bad restart he you know he lets the seven get to the outside and and more other people in that position would have probably freaked out drove into turn one and probably wrecked too like probably wrecked himself and the seven and and and cole just went in there he got his entry right and he's and he's and got a good run off the corner. They don't call him stone cold for nothing. I'm telling you, I spotted for that kid about four years back, and he should have won a championship. Then he won like nine races and one of them bills

where they didn't call him in at the right time at Homestead. But when I looked up getting into one, he was like ninth. Yeah. Yeah, oh, yeah. And then I went back to Sieg for a second because we were like 12th or something. And I look up off of two and he's leading. And I'm like, if he don't blow the corner down here or somebody don't just send him,

but I don't know what he did. It was kind of like what Tony's other comment was. like he or on Twitter he's like I don't know what moves you made or whatever you've done but it was unbelievable but yeah I love that kid I spotted for him um you know it's it's tough about it's you think about it's like you play baseball and your dad's a coach you know or you're yeah you're not kidding it's it's tough on him um I think he would maybe another year in Xfinity and he comes back and could be a big time cup guy because but the hard part is your dad's in the building and That's always a shadow.

You know, that's a tough deal. I mean, if he went, say he went to front row. I was going to say, what if he gets an offer to go somewhere else? Hey, if I'm Brad Keselowski. If I'm Brad Keselowski, that guy's on my list for about two years from that. I don't know how long Brad's going to race. I hope he raced his 10 more years if he wants to. But I'd be looking at Cole Custer because if he got out from under that deal he's under,

I think the sky's a limit. He lost a lot of his confidence. You know, the first two years we were at Stewart House racing. and the cars are really good, Eric, just done a lot of stuff. You know, you were there at the end. I mean, this stuff was phenomenal. I mean, hell, we wanted them restrictor plate race, 300 yards in front of everybody.

That is unheard of. And then the stuff kind of got bad, and he got in there, and he wanted to restart. You know, and I think he's a great driver, great kid, but it's tough to do with your dad there. You know what I mean? And I got nothing against Joe Custer. We never had a fallout ever.

Austin Cendrick is going to face the same conversations next year. that you're talking about Custer had to face last year. And it is Austin Cendrick comes in. He wins a Daytona 500. Boom, good for you. That buys you some time. Yeah. Holy cow, this year, I mean, they've struggled.

It don't buy you the time it used to. Derek Cope won that 500, and it bought him 20 years. It don't buy you 20 years anymore. Your teammate won three races. Your teammate won the championship if you're Austin Cendric. You're a lap down to end the first stage. So what, yeah. But I'm bringing up this to the point of your dad's in the building.

and it changes the optics real quick. It makes it harder, way harder. And I mean, a lot of these people don't have to worry about sponsors or anything. And not saying nothing against Austin Cendrick. I mean, but he has to race really hard to hold you off, you know, with the same stuff of them guys. I mean, it's like me and you. We fish and we've got the same rod and reel.

You know, and Freddie's catching all the fish. We know we're fucking up. Yeah, if we're sitting on the same boat, he's catching all this. T.J. I know you fish, too. I mean to leave you out. Listen, the last time I went fishing, I think it was a Charlie Brock. That's a damn good fisherman right there. Yeah, well, the problem is by the time me and this other guy, Billy Fredell, I don't know.

I know Billy. We got the boat parked and anchored down or whatever. And Charlie had already fished a hole out with seven different rods. He'd be like, all right, next hole we're like. Yeah, we're moving. Yeah. It's like, I'm trying to push the button here to get on. He got on a boat with one of them bags with a bunch of poles and they were already set up.

Me and Billy are just kind of casual to get out there. Snoopy. Snoopy bowl. Yeah. Charlie had the whole, had everything fished out. Cast and shoot. Yeah.

So, yeah, Charlie really, I won't go fishing with Charlie much anymore. He's a good dude. He was on that M.B2 bill back when I was on the way back. A lot of good guys there. Oh, yeah. And I mean, that's Red Farmer's grandson.

You know, so he, whether he likes Rays or not, it's running through his veins. That's some of the most fun that I've had was Mb2. It was a good deal. Shrader bought us lunch every Wednesday. Shrader,

Shrader, Shrader, Shrader. I'm telling you, that could be a whole other. I may have come back to him for another day. Have you ever had him on? No, he's been on Dale's show. Yeah. I saw that and I did cry. Because, I mean, I was around with Shrader a lot and I heard a lot of those.

The stories he was telling Dale about, you know, that the stuff that it was not told. Me and Shrader were tight enough to where he would tell me stuff, you know, in confidence. And you would just, you know, like, man, I don't know how you deal with this. You know, because, like, you know, Dale, knows he saw stuff he'd nobody else in this country will ever see you know and but there's no better person i think we've all kind of had a relationship with some of our drivers that like you and elliot were really close and i've been close with i've been lucky to be close with a lot of my drivers with dale junior and brad and stuff yeah super close yeah i was right i was sorry i was looking at

this is me and awesome dillan come on good buds so you're going rCR next year on your part-time I didn't mean for that to get out today. I'm not, I mean, my part-time deal is, I think, will be okay as long as that company just stays off my Twitter. Hopefully they don't listen to DVZ often. I mean, it's a different, it's a different atmosphere, but it'll be good. I got two or three different plans. Yeah, you'd be all right. We'll close off with one more spot-on, spot off.

Steve Phelps had the state of the sport press conference. earlier this weekend in Phoenix. Jeff Gluck has a great thread of all the interesting, most important things he said. But in regards to TV viewership, which this season was down 5%, he said, if you consider back in March,

we were down 15%, and now down mid-single digits. We're happy with where that is. Spot on, spot off on C. Phelps' comments there. Man, I break our fan base into three tiers. I break it into the person that has to watch race. And I say that if you live with Joel and Joel watches every race and you're Joel's wife, you're going to have to watch race and you're going to be a casual fan.

And then I think the secondary fan is a second tier up from that is you love one driver and you're going to follow the sport as long as you have that one driver. But when that one driver, you know, doesn't qualify well or gets in an early wreck, you know, you turn the channel off. And then I think you got the hardcore fan, which is who listens to our show, that follows all three series a little bit, consume some digital social media during the week, and they're going to watch that truck race or that cup race rather come hell or high water. That is your hardcore fan. We've alienated that fan for whatever reason.

And I feel like they've made a transition to try to get that fan back in the last couple years. And I feel like now what we can't have happen, and listen, we're not the WWE, despite what some of these conspiracy theory people think. But we cannot have Chase Elliott, our biggest star, running 25th at Phoenix in the championship race a lap down. We can't have him missing the playoff. We can't have him not win a race all year. When his teammates, to your point, they won 10 races. Alex Bowman had issues. He broke his back. I didn't expect that guy to come back, set the world on fire. But we've got to have our stars be stars. And right now, that's, man, I don't know why, but that's not the case. Yeah, I'm, I, I, I,

actually think this is going to help. I think Ryan Blaney winning the championship. I think he, I think a lot of those hardcore fans are fans of Ryan Blaney. And Ryan, as he, you know, I remember one quote that Ryan had coming into the 600 week and you're like, hey Ryan, how do you prepare

for this race? Well, he's like, well, I drink less beer this week, you know? Yeah. That's like, he too. He's probably lying. So, but like, I think Ryan is very, um, I think we're getting ready to see a lot of good interviews of Ryan in the next week. I was going to say, what kind of champion is he going to be all-winner? And what kind of champion is Penske going to let him to be? Roger Penske, me, Joel knows this. Listen, he would walk up to guys in the garage. I saw it happen

with my own eyes. Not Roger himself, but one of the managers at Penske handed a razor to the guy I was talking to and said, Roger's coming today. You might want to get that scruff off your face. That dude walked into the bathroom in Michigan and shaved. Now Blaney's got this big playoff beard. Like he's obviously, you know, Brad got there and wore jeans or whatever. Like, I mean, The Pitsky's a different animal. Well, the Indy car deal, like when I worked at Cal Wells for a little stretch, when he left there and came here and we'd get on the plane and all dress alike, you know, like we were scouts, I don't think you say Cubs, Scouts, I don't think they're,

Cubs, Scouts, whatever, like, you know, we all looked the same when we got off the plane. Indy does that. They all, and it's kind of a weird, it's like the spotters. You know, some of them wear full-fledged, you'd think they were pit crew. and like me, I'm a jiffy loob. You know, I got a shirt on his plane. Because I learned a long time ago, like Hedleski, you know, he was up there in a tight jeans. You know, well, yeah, he kind of had some skinny jeans.

But he had him a hat on, you know, Carl or whatever, and maybe just a polo that said Office Depot or something on it. They wrecked Dale Jr. at Talladega, we're going down in the elevator. I said, hey, boss, when you get to the ground level down, they're going to cut your head off. You might want to get a hat away. So I always just look like a fan. You know, I wear T-shirts. plus that stuff. And I mean, all black.

Yeah, we're really not smart on that. I don't understand. I mean, maybe that's my new gig is to come up with cooler, spotter. Have you been, your cool shirt? Did you bring a cool shirt out yet? No, I was going to, I should have brought it to Miami. He's got a cool shirt. After I quit, you come up with some shit like it.

Well, I mean, they sent it to me to try and I'm getting, I mean, it's going to get a good workout next year. Shade, cool shirts. Hey, listen, man, I got one for Herm too, so we're going to, I got to keep herm. Oh, they make an extra large. Yeah, yeah, something like that. plus two. The thing, listen, and you know, he talks about we had a bigger drop in the beginning of the year, 15%.

You know why? Guess who wouldn't earn the beginning of the year? Chase Elliott, because that was, what, the second or third race when he broke his leg? It's kind of like golf on. Tiger Woods took about 10 years off. How much golf was everybody watching? Yeah. I mean, you have to have that person, whether you like him or not.

I mean, it's like Denny. If Denny leaves, it's going to get worse because they boo him. Yeah. I mean, just like yesterday, you know, Denny. And I didn't know what was going on. I thought that, because Bubba was introduced right after Denny, so it was like mass chaos. It was a, it was a long boo. It was a long boo session.

Yeah, it was like, me and Freddie was talking about something. And he's like, oh, here comes. This is going to be bigger because there went Denny. We're next. If they're booing you, you're doing something right. Exactly. Like Ernhard always said, long as they making noise. Even Ross.

I mean, we talked about Ross on the show for a month and a half straight. Like Ross, you see more Ross Chastain shirts out there because of that run. that he was on there. Well, he was getting booed, and now he's getting cheered. The hell melon chase the game. Even before that, when he was ralphulling feathers, and he wasn't backing down. Like, you know, but he was getting booed for. There's still a blue-collar fan base out here that somebody like Ross can appeal to, you know, farmer.

Which is great. Oh, it's freaking necessary. We can't, we can't have a bunch of spoiled kids coming up. If it's not relatable. It wouldn't be fun if everyone was the same. I hate, like, I don't want to say I hate this because it's a strong word. But, like, this state of the union. deal that they do at the end of the year like it just seems like a chest pounding you know they

talk about how great everything is and it's not you know and like i don't understand why we can't just be honest like there's things that aren't our short track program is awful yes like just come out and say it so we think we need to take this let's just get exfinity cars running a short track something because the fix is not a diffuser it's not a half inch on a spoiler it's not a wind-a-net I mean, and let the teams, get the teams involved. Because obviously it ain't these EMSA people or whatever this car or wherever this thing come from. Get somebody that knows something about racing. Yeah.

And say fixes. I mean, even if we look back, all right, if I told you guys 18 months ago that GMS and KBM are not going to be out of business at the end of right now, would you have said, oh, you're spot on, that's going to happen. No, I wouldn't have thought it. You'd never thought it. And so you look at, I mean, Ron Hornady was on my flight last night. He was on the red-eye flight.

I had to get a chance to say hello to him. But nonetheless, you look at that guy and you think, man, Hall of Famer, one of the best racers to ever drive in the truck series. When the truck series was a formidable platform to come in and prove yourself. He was the man. He was a man. He was a man. Skinner. Mike Skinner.

Yeah. But you sit, but where is that in that series right now? We don't have that. As a matter of fact, we have two teams going out of business. We had that team a few years ago that won the championship. I want to say it was a musgrave that went out of business. Ultra Motorsports, the same year they won the championship. We have got to give that lower series the ability to be more sustainable than what it is right now.

There's about four people. If you lose them, that series is gone. You lose Duke Thorson. And, I mean, Duke's about like me. I don't know if you know who he is on Twitter. He's got his own, like his own kind of funny account. but you lose him i mean you got a guy like that that's dragging so much money around and got the big sponsors and you know bringing kids in bringing this in and he don't he's one of them guys too

that don't care if you got money like oh i got four million dollars but i'm an asshole he's like he can't drive my truck that is true i mean and like you say you lose a gms how many trucks they have two or three or something yeah and i mean so you you can't have these losses i mean it's Like if you start running off, I mean, if JR Motorsports gets out of Xfinity and about two more, what are you going to do with that? Yeah. Yeah, it's wild. You know, you've seen, I heard rumors this week that Mac and Alley's going to kind of

step in and maybe absorb a lot of the GMS stuff. I've heard some of that. It sounds like he's got some bigger plans. Yeah. It'd be good. I mean, that's one of my favorite owners I worked for. I worked for him for a while, spotting for Kraus and some other guys over there. I did like a one-off something out in Sonoma or something, help somebody.

Nicest guy you'll ever meet. I mean, just super guy. Yeah, I've done a few things with him and always really enjoyed it. It walks right up to that spotter stand. It's an humble with cash. That's my favorite part about them. They ain't nothing better to see him come unless you see Rod C. And that backpack and that grim.

Funny thing, we're on a spotter stand Friday. You know, and it's an odd weekend. We got more practice or whatever. So we're doing, I think, cup practice was right after Exfendi practice. And I turned around in Rod's there about 20 minutes into cut practice. hands me like eight envelopes, you know, from like four from last week and four for this week to pay up, you know, all, you know. Yeah.

That's like going to casino. Oh, yeah. And I mean, it's just like this. And then I'm looking for, you know, cover. And Rod's like, when do we qualify? I said, Rod, tomorrow, bud, you're done. He's like, what? He starts cussing because he could have been gone and having fun.

But, yeah, he, uh, Rod Cig, one of the nicest guys you'll ever meet. Spends a lot of money, you know, and put some kids. out there and wow gonna miss them yeah well let's move on to the DBCA main where we talk all things Dirt World

Freddy did you ever make it to the world finals nope I had to go he did in Phoenix on Thursday son of a yeah did you catch any of it though I did watch a bunch of it yeah we've been more dirt tracks out of y'all than Joel Evans what's your favorite three

favorite three i'm gonna i'm gonna put peevely at the top of the list because i had some good times that's schrader's own dirt track yeah i 55 it's done great it's still a great track long as it ain't raining that's a great place gets in in a flood zone he got a pretty good deal on but i'm telling you world outlaws goes there they put on some awesome shows it's one of the best world of all races it is it's great it small is the iron is that the iron that's iron man yeah it's a great track and we uh i should check that out we yeah he's got a couple more him and dale jrondel I bought a couple, you know, I'm going to say friendship speedway because that's where I grew up, up the road here, Elkin, North Carolina, but I race there.

The Chad Paxson track? Did you work with Chad? It's had about, no. It was an MB2. I remember him. Yeah, suspension room there. But that place has had about five owners, and then maybe I'll just go with Gaffney, because I remember Gaffney down here at South Carolina, and where the big peaches

that way, towards the land, looks like a butt. So I gave Tyler Courtney, he's a buddy of mine, I gave him the other night because they ran, I didn't even know. I knew they were coming down here to run the world finals, which was all weekend. And I was planning on going Thursday, but then we had truck practice Thursday night, which I still didn't even do that, but our flame was going to leave Thursday anyway. So I ended up going Thursday night. But so I'm sitting at the house and somebody, or I think it was his Twitter or something had like race day, Gaffney.

And I'm like, are you in Gaffney? He's like, yeah. I'm like, well, you say something. Yeah. Like, it's only an hour from the house. It's right down the street. It's like, I could have came and hung out of a little bit. They took all the fun out of Gaffney.

Gaffney used to be like six-tenths of a mile. I mean, it was the biggest dirt track in the world I thought, and then they made it small. Yeah. But like it used to be so, I go to watch the Flintstone Flyer. As I said, that Duval? Mike Duvall. Flintstone Flyer. You go down and when Bloomquist, you know, he rolls in and a damn, looks like a 300-foot-long tractor-trailer

you know, compared to everybody else's a shit. Yeah. And this goes out there and just blistering fast. And you got Duval, who's, you know, got his stuff on a trailer like Schrader would, you know, open air. It could run with him. Four tires. And run with him.

Exactly. And get out and smoke, you know, got a cigarette in both hands. Double Dick Trick. But, yeah, I watched, me and TJ watched, was that during the truck race? We watched the end of one of one, I think, the night March one. Yeah, they're a red flag. Yeah, the red flag it. The night marks one, yeah.

I think it was before the race even started. Oh, it might have been, yeah. Yeah, that's right. It was. Because, you know, we were watching, I was telling Tyler, if he had a spotter that night, he would have won because we saw Peck running him down from the top. Yeah, like, Tyler made the pass on the bottom where I'm yelling at the TV. I'm like, move up.

God. Dang it. Worst thing I saw was from Charlotte this week was that... Oh, there's a couple of big wrecks. Oh, that one. The guy got in there and hit like on his top. I'm like, that ain't good. Now, when Zeb hit, that was scary because not only did he hit and it's a scary looking

wreck, it looked a lot like Shane Meals did years ago. But then he lands and he's just, I don't know if he's unconscious or if the throttle stuck, but it's just whipping around like a top. And it was... Luckily, it gets hung up on that tractor tire. Yeah. I mean, he might still be going if not. But I remember they said right off the guy was talking.

an alert. Okay. Yeah. Outstanding. Because we all like to see, I mean, everybody likes to see a wreck, but some of them are bad. Yeah, so that was ugly. But yeah, it's all good racing.

Brad Sweet, another championship. What's that? Five in a row. I think it's five in a row. Five total five in a row, I think. Unbelievable. Be interesting to see if he's still, you know, because the outlaws, I think, have a pretty strict rule about going and running other stuff.

And now he's obviously bought this other series, which I don't know if they're going to make that national. Well, then you can run whatever you want. Yeah, like so. I spotted for Brad when he drove for, was it the 38. 38? Yeah. Shop was right around the corner.

Braun, wasn't it? Yeah. Yeah. Hey, I saw him in Phoenix. Todd Brown? Walking through the garage. He's got, I mean, you see pretty much everybody.

I heard he's got to speak easy here. We need to find. In Charlotte? It's hidden in like Huntersville. Really? Yeah. How do we not know about that? Well, I mean, I know about it.

I just don't know where it is. I mean, Justin probably, I'm sure Justin knows. We got to find it. Huh. I think we're off again. Did we get off on? Oh, yeah. Spot on.

Millbridge had a big race last week. I have no idea who won it. Casey could be here to tell us, but they had a big guy. I've seen a lot of people. That's one of the reason I want to come down. Yeah, Casey, she can't make it too. She literally pulled a Brett. She complains about Brett, but she pulled a Brett right there.

She always bitches that Brett don't. I can't believe Brad. The rest of us are here. Yeah. And that's where are you? The last show of the year. She's at the beach. She's in Phoenix somewhere.

I flew all night. She didn't. I thought I was going to fly all night too Hey, is there any, can we like start a petition to maybe push the world finals back one weekend? Just one week. Just one week. Yeah, please.

Well, didn't, they just bought it, right? And it's in Charlotte. That's, that's, that's, he did it. They didn't buy the outlaws. They bought the All-Stars from Tony. Oh, okay. Yeah. I can't keep up.

Yeah. Maybe I start my own series, our first off week, freaking race right here at Charlotte. That'd be perfect. There'd be thousands of us out there. There'd be a lot of, you'd have a lot more from the industry. there watching and stuff too.

Big names get, you know, fill the seats. It's right here. You know what I mean? I mean, Outlaws put on a great show. Everywhere they go. Everywhere they go. Whether it's a three-quarter mile or a half mile or a tennis court. Absolutely.

I mean, you can turn Dirt Vision on any point and watch. Everything they got is good. It has changed my weekends, man. The evening stuff, dirt vision. So you play, instead of playing PlayStation, now you watch them. I don't like Xbox or something because I'm going to, since I don't work anymore, I'm going to need like a discount. But I'm going to down, I'm going to get some of this stuff that I've never had before.

Because it was funny, like during COVID, you know, I had to get on like the iracing thing and do a little spot. Worked out better for some than it did for others. But yeah, but there's, I mean, there's a ton. You could take in tons of action every week. And we obviously, we appreciate our vision putting our ugly mugs on TV or streaming us weekly. So thank you to them. And keep your subscription rolling.

Who knows if they're going to renew us. So you might not see us. Well, I'm going to renew or... Yeah. You're going to renew just for... Enroll. Enroll. Subscribe.

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Yes. Well, big thanks to Dirt Vision for show and DBC for most of all this season. Let's move on to Reaction Theater. Oh, it's the best part. This is a good one. We got a lot of calls. I'll bet. Go 12.

He called in. I would hope so. He called in. I was a little worried that he didn't, but we got him. I don't know what took fucking longer. Casey didn't tell a story that she's still telling or that fucking Chuck Ray. I think that was Clint Boyer.

Yeah, that might have been him. That context and everything about the cadence. That was... Andrew, do you have a similar story that Casey had last week? I do. I was I was broadcasting the fan controlled if you guys heard about that the fan control car it didn't go too good yeah

the hacker hacker ended up getting into the hacker ended up getting into JJ Ellie but the broadcast did you guys continue to broadcast after that thing we did continue to broadcast afterwards and then we just started reacting to stuff that was happening but I did that I did that from JRM and as I'm leaving I'm barely out of the business park rolling up to a stop sign and I look over to my left and all of a sudden

a deer T-bones me. You're not even moving? I was under five mile an hour. Like the deer fucking ran right into my car. And you live here right? I live in Huntersville. Okay. And now I can't open the driver's side door. So you got to get out the passenger side? Yeah. Is it here? If you would have drove home with me from Statesful last night, I saw 7,000 deer. Oh my God. I mean, I don't know. no hat and it was unbelievable. Everywhere. So I was the best way I describe it, I was the deer in the headlights.

Did you scream? Somebody sent me a video and I'll show you guys, but I don't want to stop the show for it. But the guy says, it's a clip and the guy says, a great story. He said, I sold my truck on Facebook Marketplace or something like that. And he says, you know, a guy calls me and says, I want to buy it as long as it's in many condition. The guy says it's in many condition, I promise. I took care of it forever.

So the guy got a camera and I was just. show it to you. But it's his, it's his, like, ring camera out the front of his house. And he goes, the guy's, this is the guy pulling up to my house in this white Tahoe. He pulls up. And as the guy pulls up, a fucking deer jumps into the side of his pickup and destroys the quarter battle. I saw that. Wow. He's like, you got to be kidding me. Yeah. Was in mint condition. Well, it used to be in mint condition. I saw that. It's a thought that counts. Yeah, you go near a do tag now and you can get it. That deer clears that other car. I mean, just, just, I was right over the car.

Deere getting dumber. Oh, yeah. Like a bear. I was in Gallenburg five, six years ago. Set to the cabin, whatever, come back and got the dog out,

and I'm like, is that a bear coming down the road? And I go in the cabin and I come back around and I got a video. I mean, you know me, I got everything on tape.

So the bear comes up, and I'm like, he's going to walk across the front of mine. So I'm filming and waiting for him to come across the front of the truck. He don't come across. This s s a shit opens up the back door.

and then I have to scream. If I'd just held the camera up for like four more seconds, 10 grand, instant 10 grand. It's a very funny. It's a funny song video. They opened up the back door because they get in cars. And Galenburg bears are like cats. You know, like in Galenburg?

Oh, yeah. They're everywhere. And I mean, the damn thing just walks right up the road, opens the door. And if it had got in my truck, they don't go out the same door they come in. They find a different spot to come out. They tear out of the seats out.

Yeah. And I'm like, oh, God. God. Well, I hollered a little 200-pound bear, but it took off. Bubba's dad, he had a house. I don't know if he still has a house up there, but he sent me a video one day, and there's just two bears in his driveway, just hanging out. I'm like, what in the world is going on?

Oh, yeah, you ride through Cades Coe, which is a beautiful part of the deal up there through some big park. And people are out, flushing them out, like, flushing them out, like, they're eating. I'm filming like this. They're going to die right here. Because you don't mess with Barry. I had to fly with Marcus to Nashville to do a thing to Smith.

Yeah, to do a thing for the fairgrounds. Yeah, a big fan of yours, probably. I got a story when you get knowing you. And he was telling me that Cassie is amazing. And she loves animals, like, loves animals. And he's like, yeah, he's like, I'm a little concerned because she's just been kind of just throwing food out there feeding animals. And we got bread.

Yeah, we got everything in our backyard. He's like, what happens the day when she's got no food? Like, what's this thing going to do? So obviously I pissed Marcus off. Often. Well, just the once big time with the scaffolding spotter stand at Wilkesburg. But, you know, Wilkesburg I hold, you know, near and dear to my heart because I grew up 20 minutes away. So we're going back there, and where I got a stand is like moving, you know, and somebody addressed it a couple months before.

But, I mean, they did a great job making that track. The best thing, that was the only weak link. But, like, Marcus is still mad. Like, still mad. I'm sure. saw him at the smoke point south point um in the little you know they got a little liquor store and like where you can buy beer like past the casino part yes can you buy cigarettes in there you buy cigarettes in there and he was like on one side of thing or where they're trying to save the t-shirt

for the south point 400 and he didn't know which way he'd go because he didn't want to run into me and i didn't want to run into him but it's it's kind of funny i was it you know i tweeted out a picture of wilksboro last week and i was up would you break in uh yeah uh edie seven who's a senator, North Carolina senator, was having like a fundraiser. He definitely is a Democrat. No,

he's, he's, there's, there's, there's, there's, he's, he's,

so my buddy, the clerk of court and Dobson, Neil, so we're going up to, uh, to this deal, because only,

the invitation is Eddie Settle, whatever, guest speaker, Margaret Smith. And I said, you damn right, I'm going, because he's going,

he's going to have to sit there and watch me, hang out with him or whatever. So you and Marcus, hug it out. You and Marcus hug it out. It was good. He actually didn't show. Oh.

He probably found out I was gone. He did send a guy that did a night. Can you hear that over the? That's a signal. We got it. Refill. But, no, I got nothing against Marcus. We actually talked it out that weekend.

I met him, I found him in the parking lot. We were walking around. He was very upset. His face was redder than mine right now. and yeah he was not happy I said hey man I'm not throwing I just want it you know I said the only thing I said to him I said hey if your kid was racing and getting into three and four and there's one sitting there sideways

you know your kid sitting there with his door with everybody coming and we can't see him is that what you would want and that ain't what he wanted to hear you know I know I know he didn't build the spotter stand but it did get 18 million dollars to deal going, put something somewhere. So it'll get better. You know, me being a something helps. Not every time.

Not every time. But it has happened. There has been an eclipse every once in a while. This next call, I think they figured out a way to fix a truck series. Oh, boy. Oh, boy.

What a truck race. I think I have a solution for all of NASCAR. I think we need a couple dozen priests, a couple dozen nuns, a couple dozen everything. I don't know what else you got out there, but just send them all,

and they just need to start blessing the races and blessing the drivers. Instead of going to the NASCAR Hall or after the race, they need to go sit down with the priest in the hot tub. I think that's the solution now. I don't think you can say sit with a priest and hot tub.

Is that that that guy from Kentucky with a smoking hot wife? Is that that priest? Who was that? I don't know what the hell that was. I don't think it's going to, of work either. We got some good, you know, reverence at the track.

And it's still. That's not working. Like, I was in a crash fairly, maybe one-third left in the truck race. And I did not have enough beers. Hang out a minute. Hang out of my. You were not in a crash. No, I called.

You started a crash. Hey, it's my first week with this kid, and I don't want to mention any names because I am working on something else. But we end up, we, I don't know. You know that was my truck here. Right? Was it you? Yeah, yeah. Yeah.

Okay, so I did not know it was you or I would have come said sorry. But I hear what I hear. No, I would have because y'all know me. I'm very apologetic. If you would have saw this wreck, you would have probably said sorry yourself. And I was told later that he blew a right front. And I know he did at some point. So I might argue when it was.

But like we, and it's funny now that's me and TJ, but we end up on the apron. Oh, they're right next to win the net. I'm serious. Like it's like closer to me and Brett. And I said, hey, bye. I'd stay in there for a little bit but he's going to be mad so I didn't know at the time

but TJ's guy gets out and he's talking to the window net and he's down on him and I said he jumps off the bed and kind of goes over to the safety people and there's enough to ask our people now that you know I didn't see Stan but there's no people

like something's not going to happen but I said you can get out now boss and he dropped the wind of net and come on out I said I'd hang there for just to beat I said I think this guy's going to be mad when they hit the wall they were they were going down the track

their window nets We're two feet apart. And as he's sliding out of the track, I'm like, Jake, you okay? And he's like, yeah, but I'm going to. And I'm like, I'm thinking like, well, you're two feet from him right now. This is the best chance you're going to get. That's why. You noticed my guy never dropped his neck.

I told Jake, I told Jake, I'm like, Jake. That's trying to get more, you know, move up in a spot. I'm like, Jake, just be smart here, man. And, uh. Well, TV, that was the best spot you did all weekend. Exactly. I mean, and it was like, now I'm going on the car and drink beer. And had not, didn't have enough.

Didn't have enough here. Because, I mean, I'm out there. My battery's dead on my phone. The vehicle's dead because I don't have, Joe went back and sat in the stands to watch, Joe Campbell. So I'm opening the door just to keep the light on when I thought the battery's going to be dead. I've been there in four hours, you know, waiting on 17 laps of the truck race. And like they go whin, and then nothing.

And then there's another car. But it was fun. But if I had known that was you, because I thought, like you said, my best spot. And I said, bro, sit there for just a minute. I think he's going to be bad. We got a, we're, one good thing about where we're at at Phoenix is when they're right down there, you see exactly what happens. You see when guys get into the corner is too deep.

Like, me and Freddie sat there and watch Chandler earlier this year just send Josh, like, same type of thing over the corner. And we saw the same thing. Right when it was too late by the, you can't say anything. Like, I can't tell my guy at that point. Well, when I saw us 15 foot before we hit you, we knew. I knew too. I already had two radios in my bag.

I knew I was done. There ain't no way he making a corner. I just hope he don't take me out. Oh, my gosh. I didn't know it was you. Yeah, you know they're going to wreck. Sorry about that. What are you going to do?

You know, it's not like we can't. It's funny, like you talk about, I was sitting in a truck yesterday in the hauler, and I'm looking at the pit road map, and they're bringing some Smithfield people through, and a guy sticks his head up and says, hey, do you like T.J. majors? And I said, who? Well, yeah, during the week. I said we don't, none of us like each other on race day. You know, it's kind of a joke.

Because we all get along. You know, every now and then I'll get somebody's shirt all in a big night. I heard, were you mad at my teammate last week? We kind of made up over the weekend. He sent me in Texas. You followed him on Twitter recently. Oh, wow. He followed me back.

Oh, I mean, it's like we're dating now. Hey, you need to learn from it. Brett can learn from this. He didn't just block somebody. They made up. Hey, the block, I think they're going to take it away from us, ain't they? No. Brett's got to pay for it.

I don't think they can. I hope they can't because I have to block them every now then. Yeah. Say something about my dog, you block. Brett, you say anything to Brett, you get blocked. Well, I don't know. I've said a lot to Brett, but we've done a lot. Man, been a lot of water in this bridge.

Me and Brett take off one time out of Statesville. And we've done more flying together than Chuck Yeager did with all that people he played with because we were on like Biffles Plains and Elliott's planes. but we take off, we're going to Richmond. It's like a 40-minute flight. On Elliott's plane, I think everybody else was already up, but we were stopping maybe to get Elliot in Emporia. Emporia.

Yeah. But we take off, and this son, we look up, and the yoke is shaking this massively. There's two pilots apparently. It's like the steering wheels come off, like your wheels loose. Tollank. So Brett, me and him in the back, and we're going to do practice in like two hours. So Brett runs to the front, talks to the two pilots, comes back to me and says,

You want me to mix you a drink? And I like, well, I do, but I don't know how, what are we looking at here? Brett. So we circle back around and they took something off the plane. Then we were fine. Yeah, they were good. But it was like 20 seconds of chaos. But I appreciated where his heart was like that.

Brett does really good on situations like that. Oh, yeah. I panic. We start hitting bumps. I mean, and I get it. I don't like that either. It's like Greg. We used to fly biffle everywhere, you know, kind of.

and like the, you know, you're getting your ass kicked up there. And Greg's, and the, Greg's, you're, and Gets, and Gary says, hey, I don't like to see the wing shake no more than you do. Go back here and sound. You know,

the wings are up there just like, it's about the tariff. Yeah, you don't want to look at a wing in there. He said, I don't like to see them shake anymore than you. Go back around to sedan. That's why I think people don't get about our flying is, you know,

a lot of us have flown on really small airplanes. Oh, yeah. I mean, Biffles King Air 90. I flew that thing to Philadelphia one time, and I'm not you. It took three and a half hours. And it beat us to absolute death. And I literally got there and I was like, I'm driving home.

I ain't flying this thing back. You order to flew the old 210. You remember the little one we had. Oh, yeah. Like we go to, we come on from Bristol one time and had Todd in there who was a co-pilot for many years. And Greg's flying or whatever, you know, and this is a retractable gear, little 210 really nice. And Todd's like, hey, man, you're going to have to climb or something. We're going to hit this mountain.

And I'm like, say that one more dog. Why are we going to hit a mountain? I mean, why is Greg? That doesn't seem like good. Why is he? Well, that's like Clint. Clint would always take off in his airplane, and he's wanting to fly by his farm every time.

And I'm like, we just saw this farm last week. Why are you flying and why are we going back by this farm again? Greg, you live there. It was really, really good in a helicopter. I will tell you that. Now, fixed wing, you know, they all say like this and that's different. I don't know. You know, I can't make a paper airplane.

But like, before we would, when I, later in his career, I would meet him at down here at Berkdale when he was living down there and we fly to Donaldson just me and him and you just don't get in the helicopter

with just anybody yeah he landed at Dale Jr's one time we were we were out I don't know what we I forget what we were doing but this helicopter

I remember if I had to guess he literally landed this helicopter lands in the field and we're like yeah who's this and he shuts it down

and gets it out walk up as Greg it's the same with Petrie like he's got one and he's up in Asheville and we're up at Biffles Mountain property one time

in Rutherton you got you've up there, I know. And all of a sudden, you know, they were having one of these deals, some benefit that they used to have for the dog stuff that Greg does. And Andy just lands in the field because he saw four of their helicopters. And he said, well, I just saw y'all up here. And I mean, because Andy bought one of Greg's old helicopters or something. He did a little backpedaling this week. Yeah, I got on him a little bit, too. I saw him here. He wasn't, he wasn't, he wasn't, fist bumping me either. But I mean, I guess he found out something. And that's the way it always is.

What did you tweet him? You said, Andy, handle this on Tuesday. Yeah, this is, he said, you know, somebody put out something that said, you know, this is something, something. I'm like, man, this is on Tuesday? You don't run up and do that. Is this because of Austin Dillon or what is this because of it? That was the, uh, no, I was going to run up to that other guy. I know, it was because of why I'm with Austin Hill and Cree, but it's, but it's, but it's,

I am not an Austin Dillon, man, I can tell you. And as far as G.S.2, I don't see it. I mean, what, I mean, are you serious? When these boys, hey, maybe the greatest people in the world, but I remember when they were playing Little League Baseball or something, they went to the World Series. And like they flew on a private jet, you know, and everybody else is taking a bus.

You just know that that ain't going to work out. You know what I mean? I think it's working out well, actually. They're doing all right. Well, I mean, for sure he'll be running that place for a long. Probably sooner than most think. Yeah. Go ahead, Andrew.

I'm sorry, we got off track for the 15th time. It's me, man. I should have got a 12-pack, so 18-pack. This next fan is confusing Ryan Blaney for somebody else. Someone please tell Blaney to shave his beard. He won the championship. He looks like an old homeless man. He put 10 years on him.

Get rid of that beard. You look like a bum. Congratulations, champ. Congrats, champ. You look like a bum. Blaney always tries that. I'm surprised they let him have it. Is that the cops outside?

I think so. It looks like there is a cop. It does look at a cop car. They saw you carry that 18-Barranger. You're charging with a brush guard on it. I don't like that. Thank goodness is leaving. Listen, no race car driver in the Cup series right now has more looks at Ryan Blaney.

He'll do the mustache. He'll do the long hair. He'll do the clean-shade. You don't know what Ryan Blaney's going to show up. And then a Halloween costume or something come up, it's always something. You just don't know. Some of them Halloween costumes he's put on. They're different.

I don't do that. I bet he pulls. I think Martin Truex, when he won his championship, I think he drank all winner. I bet you blame he does that. It'd be like me or you went on. I'm sure. I'm sure.

You know who I felt sorry for? Who? Who did not come today? It's cold custer. Because he wins the championship on Saturday. And he drinks or pours two beers on himself, then cuts himself somehow. He cuts up. In that deal where he did.

He didn't cut his finger or something. Yeah, he had a ban on his finger. But then he doesn't know how much you can drink because he don't know if Brad's coming back. Yeah. You know, because Brad's home having a kid. But Cole's wanting to do the Stone Cold all night and go to Scottsdale like the rest of us want to do. But he had to go to the hotel and stay with Joe. I had good news for Cole because me and McReynolds had a hell of a victory party for Cole.

You told. He wasn't there. I had somewhat of one. Like after the, we got out in Timmy, God love him. We went and ate and messed around and then I said, I want to try to find some, uh, what is. Is it, Colonel E.H. Taylor? Yes. I said, I want to try to find.

So Timmy drove us to L.A. Seam Rock. Four hours. But I got, we went for a while. Yeah. I mean, you know how Timmy is. Timmy is one of the best sports up there. Good guy.

We did. I found a fifth E. So if you ever up my way. Yeah. A couple hundred? One, 12. That's cheap. Oh, a guy told me, said, I'll give you 200.

I said, 200. I wouldn't give you the box around this. What are that cylinder it comes in? That's a steel. Last night when we landed, after we finally got home, I said, I just hope we didn't blow the cork out of that thing. This next call is from one of Freddie's sponsors this weekend. Uh-oh.

Wallace Papa and Reddick Tyler, a 45, Thai fodder. The Yoder. The Yoder. And once again, congrats to Betty Ryan. The force is strong with him. interesting sucks. So I really

really wanted to try and spot some of the race like Yoda yesterday but I just could never find the time to like a Yoda voice I wouldn't have done the voice

but I would have just you know how he talks like he talks backwards I was going to say I was going to say like clear you are you know instead of like you know because he talks

like he speaks backwards but like when you came out with the suit like the orange suit I said who what and you said it's Star Wars and I said, well, damn it, I would have got some stuff from my nephews because they watch all that and tweet all that stuff.

See, now we talk. Now we talk. 18 for some Star Wars. 18 from Star Wars. My nephews are sophomores in college and they still love the stuff. And I said, I ain't seen the first 15 minutes. I've never gotten more requests from people saying, can you get me a hat? Can you get me a crew shirt?

Whatever it is. Like, I mean, it just ate up with it. I mean, I've seen the movies. I love it. It would be the same as the Harvick hat. Yeah. It's made a company. It looked like a bushlight.

That Harvey, that deal there was a cop out because all that did was look like every video game I played in 19 or 2005, like when they had a, they couldn't put the Dale Jr. But eight, you know, like that's. Yeah, they had to, yeah. Yeah. Star Wars made a comeback, though, man. Oh, that's the thing. I didn't even know what, because nowadays there's like extra movies.

I saw like the original. I haven't seen the Mandalorian stuff. When they got rid of that one girl that had like the Princess Leia. It's head on or something. got rid of her. Is she still in it? I think she's still around. But she's got a different hair, right?

Well, I'm pretty sure she is. Well, she died, right? Yeah, she passed away. In real life. Yeah. In real life. That's why she replaced her.

I don't know. I haven't seen the last movie. Oh, like CGI. Yeah. Whatever. See, I don't know. Oh, no, they didn't replace her. They made a, they, yeah, they did this CGI deal, like made her.

Really? Yes. In one of the movies, but in the last movie, it was actually her. It was like a deleted scene from. I can't do the scary movies. Oh, it's not a scary movie.

No, you don't understand. Like, the E.T. deal threw me way to that fendor. That fanger, that lit up.

I can't do that. No. Still think about it. We're getting pretty far into this box. I'll tell you what else I'm throwing off. I was in Scottsdale. And a car pulls up to the stoplight.

And, there's nobody in the car. There ain't a driver. Oh, it's one of those. There ain't a passenger. Yeah. And there ain't nobody in the back. And I'm like, can't believe what I'm seeing.

And it's called Waymo, W-A-Y-M-O. But it looked like it was like a Google car. You know how the cars you should drive around and film everything? So I looked at the car and I thought, that's what it was. Well, the next one pulls up. And this is 30, 45 minutes later. And I'm like, there's a fucking car right here with nobody in it. The guy rolls down to wind in the back goes, oh, man, I'm in here.

There's nothing. There's nobody in the front seats. This thing is artificial intelligence driving itself around Scottsdale. I had that. Me and Jason Jared had a similar situation in L.A. last year because we're sitting at a stoplight and a explorer, which I promise you was not autonomous. So whatever that word is, it makes a left. And I look at you, I look, I go, Jason, there's, there ain't nobody driving that car.

Nobody. And it goes over, hits a curb. It hits a curb and then smokes the car behind me. I don't know if the guy got out, got car jacked. Like, if he just fell over, I don't know where he was. That's what it. It was a hell of a red. It's similar, yeah.

It looks like a Tesla. Yeah, it does. Well, I'm going to tell you something. That's what Tesla, because there's something on like a cop-com. I mean, last night I was in one beside a one, and light turns green. It took off the same time we did. They've been driving around Phoenix for the last couple of years. For as long as I went to school there, they would.

It's scary. You're from Phoenix? I went to school there. Yeah. Where are you from? Chicago. We still got more calls. So you grew up in Chicago.

Oh, you bet, Freddie. And went to school in Phoenix. Yeah. And now you're around here. I live here. Okay. You've been to Mayberry yet? I've not.

He has no idea what that is. Open invitation. Did you ever watch? Do you ever watch Andy Griffith? No. He doesn't know what that is. He doesn't know who Andy Griffith is. He don't know who Andy Griffith is.

No champ. He don't know Davey Crockett and the Waltons, any of that stuff, man. An episode about him on Seinfeld. Not that he had his own show for a thousand years. my heart because I live in Mayberry. I live like eight minutes from Mount Airy, North Carolina, which is where Andy Griffith is from. Joel gets a haircut of fluids.

I'll send you, I'll get you the whole first season on DVD or whatever you, whatever you, whatever you, whatever you watch. They don't have DVD players. You got to stream now. Oh, I'm sorry. See, I burned the woods. My internet runs off different stuff. But, I mean, how do you, Mount Pilot, Aunt B, nothing?

Nothing. Barney Fife? You ever heard of Barney Fife? Barney 5 Me? No. Jesus. I've heard of him. I've heard of him.

You're a liar. What are you? Schmall or Smedium? Does I get you, Andy Griffith. And then you'll fit in. Like you go out to Joel's sushi or whatever over here. They'll be like, hey, this guy is that your place? Is that your place?

Is that? Yeah. You run that? I got a shirt from there once. You know what Gilligan's Island is? I've heard of it. Okay. All right.

Go to the next. Jesus. We're going to figure out the year. What's that number? How do you get this number? 704, 802-9-572. Now that I'm unemployed, I'm going to be calling in a lot. And I got several aliases and asses that it's going to be.

We have one more call. Mayberry Joel. We have. Opie. Opie line two. We have one more call, and it's from one of our best reaction theater callers who is finally rejoicing after being down. earlier this season. Go 12.

We, boys! Ryan Bland is a 2023 NASCAR champion. And I don't know what the f***a men is, but I'm about to go to one. Boys and Rochester can shove that watermelon up as a win a race. Who gives us? Boys! We've done it! Woo! Go 12!

And furthermore, before I put this hot tub on Marketplace on Facebook, y'all want to ask Christopher Bell if he wants it because I give it to him. Go 12! Go 12. That's pretty. Go 12. That's it. That guy's been calling in for a couple months now. Yeah, a few months ago, he was down and out. I think that's my neighbor because I hear this going on like in the distance over the mountain. Wow. That's, yeah, I can fit in on this deal. Give me a number. Text to him. Hey, cool, really cool deal for John Bernard, who's been a supporter of our sport forever to have his name on the car where they win that championship. Yeah, that guy is funny when I got. fired from Bipplefield, which is a great story.

We told that one. We told it last week. I heard. But like I get a call like the next Saturday from GS1 and GS2's dad. He's like, come on up, come on up to Michigan. You spot in tomorrow from a yard. I'm like, what? I said, no, you got a guy that's been on the roof for two days, done done practice.

And I'm not coming up and going to replace him on Sunday. Yeah. And that was, it kind of told me then I didn't want to work there ever. You know what I mean? If you would do that to somebody. And I, but Paul Menard loved the guy, great guy. He's like Carl. They were really good friends, kind of a little bit eccentric.

But I remember Googling what, there's a damn cop car game. Somebody go get the lights played off my truck. But I googled what John Menard was worth. And I told my dad because he was scared death because I got. fired. You know, he's never been fired. I wanted to get fired. And I said, this guy's worth like so many billion dollars. And it's like three times that now.

But, you know, a guy that's been around forever. I mean, every series, I mean, he's on Friday, Saturday. I mean, he sponsors the Archer series, right? Every is Archer Menard series now. I mean, he's the one guy that if he said, you know what, I'm sick of

this shit. I'm just going to buy a NASCAR. He can do that. You know, because they would probably take his money. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Because he's got, and he's a pretty nice guy. Like the guy shows up, you don't know he's in a room. Nope. You don't know about his clothes. You don't know by the way he's acting.

I have no idea who he is. He could walk right in tomorrow and I would never know. Yeah. And Paul, I like Paul. He just like Paul. He just looks like Paul. Paul's really cool, man. Paul's super cool guy.

Yeah, really good guy. A lot of fun to be around. I would have loved to spot it for him had he had he been driving somewhere else at the time. Not that, I mean, you know, there's any hard. feelings anything. No, no, nothing at all. I've noticed. That's a great location up there they got too for a shot. Come on, man. Well, thank y'all for all the calls. 704, 802-9572. That's the number. You'll be hearing from me. Yeah, we expect. We're going to keep, we're going to keep the lines open all off season. So, uh, I won't be on, y'all on speed dial.

I mean, I got, oh, save it to contacts. I just got phone up there, too. I mean, I just got landline and everything. Uh, let's move on to ask. DBC where fans you can send your questions each week using hashtag AskDBC. This is, this question is from Master of Light, one of our, one of our most engaged fans on social media. What moments stood out to you guys the most from this season? Whether it be a certain race, certain popular win. Hell, I don't know. I've been drinking beer for the last two hours now.

I'm sorry about that. Let's see here. I mean, honestly, probably the run Blaney went on here. You know, you've seen that run that Tony made in whatever year that was, him and Carl ended up tied. And I don't know if cops leaving again. Oh, he's coming in. I don't know how direct of a coincidence this is that he really turned it up right about the time he failed that tech but didn't actually fail the tech or, you know, whatever that happened there. But they hauled ass the last round and a half.

when his shock was too short or whatever. They came up the next week and said, hey, our gauge was off. So then everybody went through tech at the next race. They were good. That was at. No, they all failed. Like the 99 car, which I give no sh**s about,

went through tech, and all four of his shocks were illegal. From the week before that he'd run for like three weeks or something. So NASCAR's gauge was off, which is I know is hard to believe. that they got something that ain't on up and up. But like they measured a shock, and then the shock guy is probably, you know,

trembling at home going, I'm done. You know, now it's Dollar General from now on, which Dollar General is a great store, by the way. But if you knew your stuff was right, and then you got kicked out, and now you're going to be out of the playoffs. And, I mean, he could have been out of a championship, but they said their gauge was off.

Well, then we all go to the next race, and I don't know anything about tech or even where they have it anymore. But everybody's stuff was off. Like we had two shocks off on the 10. We don't cheat. I'm going to go ahead and tell you. Obviously.

Now, some of them cheat over because I think they paid out about $750,000 and fine. It was a lot. Yeah, you down right. This next question coming from Luis. Have you got your last check yet? No, but I'm going to send the invoice a day. Let's take a chance. I'm getting one.

You might want to expedite. You know who gets invoices? Jennifer. Oh, my gosh. I better text my stepmom for this goes live. I try to get that on through the system. You might want to leave here and drive over there. Yeah.

Just walk in and get him and cut it. I'm probably going to stay down here. I don't know about leaving here. You got a bad in here? This next question coming from Luis. Thoughts on Ford sweeping the weekend after struggling in all three. series throughout the season and there's actually an interesting stat

Ford went 8 for 36 in the Cup Series 5 for 33 in the Xfinity series and 6 for 26 in the truck series. I don't Yeah. I mean I guess Well I mean we talked about last week I said on here Ben Rhodes if he wins the championship it just

kind of points out where the system's at because he was an average truck I mean I shouldn't say average he's above average but you know he by far was not the fastest truck, you know. I think that the, the double zero didn't surprise me because the two fastest cars the last three or four weeks have been the 98 and double zero. That really didn't surprise me. And they weren't, if it was a short run, like, obviously the restart, but they were there,

they had stayed out. So like the 20 was better. I felt like on a short run if he can get out in front of them, but then the double zero would take over long run. So that didn't surprise me. And we all, I think we all kind of agreed last week that Blaney was probably the favorite going to Phoenix because of how we run. A lot of momentum there. Yeah. You know. It was. But, I mean, that's unbelievable for them. We talked about... It's going to be weird being at the same track. You know, like I said, Biffle won Homestead three years in a row back before this was ever what you did.

Or maybe it was one year. So if you're in the final four and you can win at that track, you know, like he could win Texas. So if you started having it at Martinsville, there's certain people that can win it and certain people can't. I felt like back in the day before the final four, was the final four which in 2014, I think, you know, I felt like Rauch won Homestead every year, whether it was Biffle or so. Well, it was Biffle three years in a row. Kirk got one man.

So it's five years in a row. It's kind of like when Jim was winning championships. Yeah. And it's like, it's funny because now once we switch to the final four, you rarely see, obviously seen it with Rosh yesterday, but you rarely, I think that's the first time since they went to it that the guy didn't win, right? I think so. I think so, I mean. On about every day.

Yeah. Or every series, I mean. It's interesting. You got to give epic freaking shout out here, though. The Ford, Doug Gates, who we know well. Roush H. Engines, obviously, Penske, back-to-back championships. Lugano last year, Blaney this year. And to Andrew's point, it's not the guy that five, six weeks ago we had winning this thing.

I mean, until he won Talladega, we didn't even know if he was going to make it to the next round. And then he got crazy, crazy high. And he won Talladega by the length of that box. I mean, we know why Ben Rhodes won Phoenix and won a championship. Good for him. Good for Thor Sport. Stellar team in that series. No owner or more invest in that series than what Duke is.

And then obviously, like you said, Freddie, Stuart Haas, crazy fast. But John Hunter was still the favorite going into the race. Oh, yeah. In my mind, anyway. Yesterday, obviously Blaney got hot at the right time, but we've been talking about it since he won Martinsville. Like, their short track stuff was good. And Ford's struggles were, for the most part, on a mile and a half tracks.

I mean, other than Chris Busher, who was sitting a world on fire. one point yesterday looked like he was going to contend to win. Harvick, I mean, you know, he started third

and coming up and led some stuff and I'm like, wow. Yeah, took the lead. And all of a sudden, he was kind of towards me.

It's tough. You know, I think the Friday, Saturday's stuff, you kind of got to look at Tony Hirschman a little bit. You know, he was the Toyota guy.

He's the favorite on both days. He sucks. They can't get it done. You know, the damn guy, if he'd moved down here, if he didn't live in, Allentown,

Pennsylvania. Maybury in the North, Transylvania. Maybe you know the north is exactly right. He's still thinking they're going to bring Nazareth back. That's like thinking the Eagles are going to get back together. I got to go. Me and hers are so stupid.

We're going to race against each other to modify it. I heard you're talking about that. We're going to fight our way out of a couple more race track. Is that up there or down here? It's in one's in New York, one's in New Jersey. I don't think you're going to make it. I think I'm banned from New York, sure enough. But if they have that north-south thing and it's in the south, that was

that was last week. That was last week. See, the weeks, the, they don't line up. They just don't lie that. It doesn't matter to me anymore. Yeah, you're good now. I can go to all that. Okay.

Sorry. Let's, uh, let's move on. I have a really good feeling about this segment. Oh, let's go on to what an idiot. What an idiot. Hell, I even drove down here for this. What an idiot. I had so many,

one idiot. There's a lot of them, man. Like, uh, all right. So there's one that's, that was really bad. And then there's one you had to go back in time. Actually, there's, I got one. TJ made my list this week, by the way.

By what I told you? Yeah. Yeah. But then I got top quick. TJ went to the racetrack without his radios this week, by the way. Oh, yeah. I mean, you know, minor detail. I can help you on this in the minute.

Go ahead. He got the, he left him in his rental. I don't know what he was doing. He was switching rental cars at the race. So I'll tell you real quick what happened. We get off the plane and Brad's car is there and there's another guy that's not coming's car is there. And Brad's like, all right, well, I don't want this.

this, this, Fort, this, is a big car. Yeah, and he's like, I'm on this

Ford Edge. So he hops in the edge. He's like, take mine. So, me, Andy Houston was riding

with me. We hop in Brad's, and I'm just going to drive it out and get my car because it's going to be a travel nightmare. They're going to be looking for this car, turn it back in or whatever. So we put all our stuff in it right here

instead of walking out to that satellite lot or whatever, where everything's at. We drive out there. We get my car. Well, Andy gets all the bags out of the back, and I'm talking to the guy, getting this, you know,

Andy a little bit. What an idiot. So I get my stuff. I had a cooler and a backpack in the back seat and I grab that stuff throw it in the back. I'm like, oh, Andy already closed the trunk up. So I'm like, oh, he got everything. And we drive to the track and we parking a lot behind, you know, the, the, we're,

we're parking a lot back air. And I'm waiting on you guys are coming to the truck. Well, you were with, no, you were with them. We were meeting you guys. Yeah, we're waiting on you to get there. Me and Andy are sitting there waiting. And they get there. just under an hour before practice, no time, no problem.

So I get out and I'm like, all right, well, they're here. I'm going to go on up. I don't, where are my radios? And I'm like, oh. So you can say, it's okay. Yeah, I'm like, oh, fuck. And I fortunately had the number of the guy that worked for the deal there and I called him right away.

And I'm like, hey, that excursion that we just turned in that we're not using. I need it. I won't. Yeah, I need it. I need in it. And he's somebody looking at like right now. And he's like, oh, let me look here. Yeah.

There's no worse feeling. He's like, oh, I don't see anything in the back seat. Let me check the very back. And he's like, oh, God, oh, God. He's like, oh, yeah, there's a K. I'm like, all right, I'm on the way. Yeah, it's only like $15,000 in there. Yeah, yeah, it's it.

So I drive there and honestly. Andy left your bag in the car. Well, that's not the way I heard it. What's, I said, what's Andy's side of this story? It's not really Andy's fault. I should have checked. So who's my fault was it? It's everybody.

At the end of the day, it's my fault because I should have checked for my own stuff. The only time, and I did this yesterday, T.J. I'll take up for you. I'm in there, and I show up, and I go to the truck. And it's my last day, so I'm all sentimental hugging everybody. And I put my backpack on the counter. Well, somebody shuffle f***s all that stuff later. So I get ready to go to the roof, and I go in there and I pick up the backpack that's sitting right there.

And I walk my fat ass all the way up to the spotter's name. Oh, no. Oh, yeah, to the roof and set it down on the ground. and I'm like, I ain't got no carabiner on my damn backpack. So then I walk back to the truck. And they're calling, like the crew chief's calling because it's one of the tire changers guys, and I guess he's got his tire changer thing in there or something.

And I'm like, he's some fucking. And I slamming doors down there and raising hell, it's my last race. You know, I'm trying to get a good send off. That's a bad feeling. I mean, like, I'm like going on there's a carabiner on mine yesterday, and I'm like, are you kidding me? Who put this on my bag? I mean, and then I'm like, you know what ain't yours, but they all the same.

They all look the same. It's kind of like when you unload off the plane. Yes. Everybody's bag is the same. The, uh, I get on the roof. I wish I got two. I have to do two. I'm going next because I go.

We have time. My one idiot. Hands down is starting the truck race at 1015 Eastern Time. Are you? Because I just talked about the hardcore fan who for the most part is still on the East Coast. Why are we doing this? That is hands down. My one idiot.

Whoever allowed this to happen should be fired. I probably have already been in this segment, but my what an idiot is how in the hell is the restart zone at the racetrack painted 75 yards from where they thought it was going to be. I mean, like, we get there and I'm like, I like this. It's shorter, you know, it's not as big. You know, because like at most places where there's a good race, you got one cone.

That's where you start at. You don't give them a football field. So we have from a football field to 60 yards, and then we moved it up 80 yards. So it's right to start, finish. And I thought, well, this is going to be better because they won't be 17 wide getting down into one. Well, obviously, after the truck race, they said, we're moving that. You know, I get up there, and I didn't even, I would have noticed it in the race.

I didn't notice it. I didn't do truck practice. I didn't do truck practice, and then you practice, you're not looking. So, like, once the box was in front of us. The box is directly in front of me and TJ. Like it used to be directly in front of us. And I said, wow, it's way down there. And then one of our officials came and said, hey, obviously, we've, the box is not

where it's supposed to be. We're going to run it tonight and maybe move it tomorrow. And I look and I go, well, they ain't even going to be out of second gear yet by the time they get to the wing. We ain't worry about four wide of the line because they're going to be rolling so slam slow. But the whole recovery from it is kind of where the, what an idiot is because they said we did not know

or like how do you got like this surely this has been painted for a week you would hope well I mean that paint like the championship weekend paint and all the paint on the walls everything's pretty fresh everything yeah yeah somebody somebody goes you know like Melissa that does all the testing people go weeks before to make sure stuff's in the right

spot the restart zone I mean that's like having a coach slot in the wrong spot. That's going to show up pretty quick. And it's the restart zone. It's like I don't, it's, and I don't know, I don't know who it is. Like NASCAR at the track, like somebody should have, somebody should have, I hope they do for y'all. Is that stupid racing 17 wide on the apron?

I mean, everywhere we go, you can't drop below the yellow line or the white line until the start finish. And then you got about a lane in a half. Why do we need three football fields to the left? I mean, literally, you can't, when you come off pit road, if you cross that line, you, you've blend line violation. But on a restart, you can go down and be on pit road and then come back across all that. That's the dumbest thing I've ever seen. You imagine.

I was kidding. I was kidding. I was kidding. Don't doubt put grass down there. That would be a grass. Yeah, but I don't know. You need a water hazard. You won't go down there if it's a water house.

How about a jump? What do you want to put a bunker? You want a bunker on the bottom? I'm so old. I remember going to Loudon one time and they ran like a race on Saturday. with Haley's dad. Brian, is that right? Yeah.

He, and this was pretty cool shit. Like, they came out and they ran like down the pit road. Oh, he's losing. They'd run down the pit road and then they jumped a water hazard

kind of where the set of truck said. They come back up and then go over the pit wall. All kinds of jumps. And then after that we ran the Xfinity race. Yeah, I remember just cleaned the shit up. But I don't know what series that was, but I'm looking to get there.

Yeah. Travis Mastrona. Nitro. Nitro. It was. Rally cross or whatever. spotted for him. High limit series.

You spotted for him? Oh, yeah. How'd that go? Probably short. I mean, you park to leave not to win. Great guy, though. Great dude. I have to give my wood.

And my wood, restart zone was on my list. T.J.'s on my list. But how do you not give your one-needed award to Kyle Petty? After all the shit, he talked about Ryan Blaney earlier, an unfulfilled potential and all this stuff. And Blaney comes out here and just goes on a heater to end of year. and wins him a championship. That's the ultimate, just middle finger back to that. I mean, I thought those remarks were dumb at the time,

and now Blaney goes out there and just makes them look really stupid at the end of the year. So congratulations on that award. You go ahead. I think Kyle Petty's good for the sport. I think he's one of the few people. I think he's one of the few people that are on television that will actually speak their mind. And Clint Boyer, how well do you know Clint Boyer? Pretty well.

How opinionated is Clint Boyer? Very opinionated. High opinion days Club Boyer on TV. Not Clint Boyer. Kevin Harvick, brilliant, opinionated, hard worker, most recent perspective of anybody that's going to be in that booth next year in either network. And if they calm him and tame him down, it's going to be unfortunate. Because we need voices and people that are willing to state their opinion right or wrong. We do the same thing on here.

Kyle Petty's good for the sport. He's one of the few people that will say what he actually thinks versus what we need to do to sell the sport. so sorry tj i mean that's it's a good point um man i there's there's so many um that you could do as well but it seemed like as the weekend went on someone just kept topping every time you thought you had somebody yeah started off with me and then the truck race happened and there's seven from the truck race that you could pick you i mean which one was worse core himer cars knows far core hym yeah 100% i mean the one was an accident like a true accident like i unfortunate but I think Carson was, it was very dumb to what happened, but it's not intent.

It wasn't intentional. It wasn't like, here he comes, here he comes. Okay, I'm going to wreck him now. Honestly, it did take away from a guy like Grant who has worked hard and just kind of had, you know, seems to shuffle around a little bit. Storybook ending, GMS shutting down and fingered a long shot. Grant's a good dude, man. Like, not that any of the other guys aren't, but, you know, that changed the whole

outcome right there. And it didn't, it shouldn't, that was a bigger factor than it should have been. But yeah, the truck race happened. You got tons of different guys. You know, Corey probably should probably be the top of the list. You know, Joel's guy who hasn't lifted yet with that flat tire. I thought in the middle of the race yesterday, you were mad at every guy named Corey. I can tell you that much.

Oh, my good Lord. Yeah, Corey, uh, Joy come out. Well, he's three laps down, off sequence, waved around, did something to get off sequence there. He comes out, and he is, uh... Is that one cold? No, it's good. Same as that. Yeah.

Room temperature. Put that over in your stack. We're racing with the 43 for, like, ninth place, and I mean, we're racing hard, like, and we're getting near the end of the stage. It's going to, stage point, not that it matters, stage point at this point, but you still want the spot. It still mattered. Yeah, I mean... It's money. No matter what.

He comes off a pit road, racing one other car on this lap. Another car is half a track in front of him. Not that three laps down. You're going to make a lot up at that point anyway. So he comes off and we're side by side off two with 43. He dives to the apron where Joel wants to put the jump. And clears all of us and enters really low,

misses the corner, slides up. So we have to, we split him. Like 43 goes outside. We go to the bottom of him. And then he hangs a, hard left off the exit of the corner and then he kind of slides up in front of Brad a little bit and Brad about hooks him on the backstress

not purposely but like smile he's going keep talking Corey just and then he drives up but there's literally like what was the point of that right there you know what I mean let us figure out the position and then pass her but you got tires so and then I mean I can obviously give it to Freddy's car

in the cup race there I once gave it to my own guy what are we giving here now what are we giving here now? What it is still? Yeah, five to go in the race. Yeah, I got it. Freddy's guy. So, Brad out.

We're almost done here. It's three hours into the show. We're going, Andrew's loving us right now. I can't wait to edit it. So, T.J., who you spawned for next year? Are you going to edit me out? Got all right? Yeah, there's going to be no record of you.

Who else you spawned for? I don't know. No? I mean, there's, this has been a weird year. I don't know. Does Haley D. Does Haley Digan move into Exfinity? Is that attractive to you?

um yes and no there's i mean there's other opportunities that it's going to be tough it's it's going to be a tough i think she's a good fit for the expedity car when she can separate herself out and um she could be the jimmy johnson of the truck series you never know you know she ran that one exfinity race and ran well yeah you know or ran really really well because she wasn't in that hornet's nest how's that team gonna be i don't honestly they've had a lot of speed here lately they've been decent so with some you know I'm sure they're going to get some more backing

that's Stuart hot stuff I think which is older Stuart hot stuff yeah but it's pretty phenomenal as of late and I mean the old steward high stuff's even going to be better next year so yeah so it should

has an opportunity to be I don't think it's gonna I don't think I hope she does well I mean I think she has an opportunity to finish 8th to 15th you know most races you know some attrition and she you know, maybe can put in, I think she can do well. She's, she's good when it's her

versus the car on the track. She's a very good driver with stuff like that. She doesn't do well whenever they drive into the corner seven wide because she doesn't want to go in there and wreck somebody. That's not how she races. And I know she's had a couple of instances. So you're doing Brad, you won't tell us who you're doing Exfinity. No. You don't anybody truck? Same scenario. Kind of waiting to see where the cards fall to do that. What you're going to do, part-timer? You know yet? I don't know. Which cup car you can do Daytona. I tried hard

to the week via Texas to talk a minute to win John Hunter. And you got close on a couple deals.

I mean, like it, I felt kind of bad last night. A couple guys I talked to coming home or out, don't got nothing

looking. And I thought, man, I'm pretty fortunate that I had about four choices if I had a wanted, had Stuart Haas

not asked me back, I could have went somewhere. Right. And you know, you always want to be wanted. And, I obviously wasn't going to stay there. You know, I'm not, me and priests would probably not work,

and I don't know about this one or that one, but it was nice to get some texts and calls and to do it my way. But I've got, I mean, there's a four or five cup deal, and there's a 13 race truck deal, there's a 16 race Xfinity deal. What I'm going to do is be part-time, that way a lot less pain in y'all's ass. And, you know, most of the. us have a really good time. I mean, especially the spotting part. And then at night we have a little better time sometimes. But I mean, a lot of those guys won't even talk to me because they think I'm

nuts, you know, or, but I just like, they're scared. Believe it or not, people are scared of you for some reason. It shouldn't be. I was not even one percent scared of it. It was a fun weekend with Nick, because like he was really, and I text you last week, you know, that I knew. But I mean, I mean, you got to think about I'm leading the race and I'm running behind him and the hack holding you know they're not racing for shit and we're trying to get by him plus we're trying to save tires you know and Blaney's still six seconds behind me then and all we're trying to do is win you can't pass so we put two tires on and you just try to make them last yeah and Eric's pretty good at saving tires so we're trying to do that you know but like Nick I went down I said hey man I'm leading the race

and you're in the way, for God's sakes, your headset has your name on it. Get out of the way. What you mean this guy's name on it? Well, that's another reason I can't do it. Like when the people, I mean, God love them, they show us. Here we go. I love it.

And whether it's year 20 or year one and your headset's painted with your name on it. Oh, so he's got a customized headset. Customized with name. And hey, Nick's a great guy. but I've done it all these years was just a straight-up 3M Peltor headset from racing electronics

and the backpack like me and Jason Jarrett was talking about yesterday I said when I need no disrespect T.J. But when I need a fucking Oh you mean like there's an uncrushable bag

that like I could put my lot you know everything I own in to take to the roof. I'm just a backpack guy. I just got what I got. Minimal batteries. I think Herm can move into his bag if he was. Herm's bag is a casket

And somebody else has got one up there That's true Maybe that T.J. Drew Harry is actually He's a spot for that one guy in the truck So now he's got a big bag like that. T.J. Bell. Yeah, T.J. Bell.

Oh, he's got one. T.J. 2.0. He's got new shoes every week. I don't know. I don't get that. He does. Like, I've wore the same pair of shoes for four years.

He does have a new pair of shoes every week. Hey, what do you think about these? I don't get it. What are the... What am I doing wrong? Are these your new one idiots? I don't know. I think if you took my case, I think I got the same amount of stuff in my case.

I do appreciate y'all's organization. Like, y'all, y'all make fun of me every week, not anymore, though. When I get there and I hang my headset up on the rail, and it looks like my cords, like you took them and just took the drill and spun them until you can't move them. Somebody, I can't remember. And that's for like nine minutes getting my shit straight now. I can't remember who was standing next to me last week at Martinsville. But I started yank, and Martinsville's a tough one because I don't ever, I don't ever unpack my bag before I go on the track.

and from the week before. And I started trying to drag my radios out of my bag, and they were, it was a disaster. And somebody said, and they're like, you made out with Joel? Joel take your stuff home? We showed up for the duel one year, and it's been about 10 years ago.

And I was standing beside Tool and Joel. And I had not held my radios out of my bag all winter. Like, no chance. And I think I crashed at homestead, so I thought the batteries were still charged. I look at Joel on that too. the duel. I go, how many batteries you got? He said, I don't know why. I was like, mine's dead. He said, it's lap two with the first race of the year. And I'm like, yeah,

I didn't charge these things. I swear. I got you, but no, I'm team throw your in the bag and leave racetrack too. Freddie, who you got? I'm the same. Who you spot for? You know? Yeah, I do. I'm going to spot for Bubba. Believe it or not. Year 14. Nice. I think that's good. That is. How many a cup is this? This, for me, it'll be a next year. For me and Bubba, I think we, I think 17 was our first year. So that'll be seven years, I guess. I think. And you had a great season. Top 10 points. Yeah. Had a lot of speed. I mean, really good playoff for us. We jumped from 16th and points to 10th. I mean, we passed Truex. Truex out a 36 point cushion on us to start. He was 11th, I think. So, I mean,

we had an unbelievable year. I'm a spot for Bubba. I don't know the same thing with I would love to say, I think I am leaning towards the Frike a truck program, I believe. I think me and Brett are fielding offers for the Manning cast truck races. Joel would be amazing on that as well. So if somebody wants to pay us to watch TV, drink beer and call about. You know, I got a lot of that this week. Like on my Twitter, you know, most of it's pretty like, I hope he die. But there was a lot of people saying, like, you should do that deal where you just talk.

Maybe we could do a go-fund me or something. Who we raise the money for? Me. No, start to go-fum me to fund me to fund the manning cat. The truck. Could you imagine me and him, I mean, Claudia can't, because I'm going to have to stay down there. And we got another dog. We have to bring Josie down.

But like, it would be fun to sell. I think that would be so much fun. We just need donations like them other people get to do that stuff. Only fans. Oh, I mean, I kind of got more. but I'm not going to call it out right here. Or give like the... You don't want to send a link out?

I don't want to send the link. Spicy link. Yeah. Oh, me. Is this only six hours long this show? Oh, my gosh. So I feel that enough... I think he did.

You're not being here is not going to matter. Oh, Custer was here. He left. Oh, he was here. Yeah, he did about 30 minutes. Yeah. Okay. I was late then.

He did about 10% of this. This is the first show we've ever done in our 10-year history. I ever long as Ben T.J. and I started this thing, where we didn't teach anybody listening to a damn thing. They just heard stories the whole time. Good stories are good, though. You know, especially for a guy like me who's just, that's all like I left. Hey, maybe we should just need to get Joel back for the Christmas episode. I'll come back. We got red, red X coming. When is that? Oh, yeah. We don't know. That might be a conflict. You did call him Albert Einstein this week. Was it not true? Dude, go to bed.

Get off, put your phone away. It's like before you used to tell me. hey bro don't don't tweet while you drink I said okay that ain't going on that's not good work so you're mad at reddick you're going out on this thing I'm not mad at reddy reddy mad at Nick you're mad at Austin Dillon I think him and Nick have patched it up okay we're following each other on Twitter okay so you're good sorry

are you following only fans are you and Austin Dillon following each other nah but if I get behind him he'll know it I can tell you that anybody else we need to burn a bridge here while of finishing this show. Hey, I got one edition that I forgot about

that me and Freddie saw. It's my wood and idiot. It's the guy that flew around the racetrack. Oh, God. On a hand glider or whatever the hell that thing was. And the dude's like down behind the mountains and I thought the cops were going to shoot him down because the cops are on mountains.

Then he crosses the racetrack, right? And then he's over in the parking lots. Goes down to backstress, and he goes off into the sunset. That ain't real smart on his part now. And I thought it was Kurt Bush going, do y'all not know who I am coming in here? Yeah.

Wow. Doug Campbell just texted. If you guys getting beers after the podcast, I'm going to put in a pile. Did that get a pile over here? Oh, boy. Any closing thoughts? I mean, obviously, thank you.

When's a Christmas special? I don't know, yeah. We haven't decided that. I will try to plan my six weeks in Minnesota. It's probably here in a couple weeks, I would assume. It's usually mid-December. It's usually mid-December. Ice fishing up there.

Anytime y'all won't. Ice fishing don't sound fun. We're going to go to the, girlfriend's cabin it's a little bit big mine's 20 by 20 it's about the size of that the bathroom is nice though that's a good ad a little bit bigger than a little bit big yeah the girlfriend's cabin's big and on a lake yeah and nice bars around there my place a little small what i'd fly into uh bemiji okay uh um um bemigi i can't spell it but um let's see duke thorson can spell it because duke thorson's um grandpa or dad wants

Was it the biggest paver ever up in this northwestern Minnesota town? And that's where Duke's money comes from. So like Jason Hedleski knows nothing about ice fishing, and Duke begs him to go every year because Duke owns this town. Could you see Jason ice fishing? Can you see Jason fishing at all? No, but I mean especially ice fishing. Could you picture that?

Actually, I took Jason fishing in Texas at a buddies, and he did really good. Like that place you go to when you go there early? Yep, exactly. and got to see Jason this weekend. We forced him in between me and Hirschman. He's, you know, because Brett's like me, it's going to be interesting to see how I am. Like when I come back in like March and say, I've been standing here for 35 years, you know, because like Brett comes back, he won't stand where he's always standing.

He did, yeah. Jason shows up. I got a fight of darn to. I've been here for, you know, it's funny how a spot. We're territory. We are pretty bad about it. And, you know, I'm normally just easy going, you know. Yeah.

Yeah, very much so. Ask Nick. I should pay for that shirt last week that I grabbed. Did you grab his shirt? I'm sure the sleeve's not the same size on the right as it is left. No, it's fine. I mean, I get it. I was that guy.

My first spotting was like Scott Pruitt. So, and that's how you learn to be a good spotter, in my opinion. All these people are listening at home that are going to do it for, that think they're going to do it for living? Yeah. You start hearing. They're hiring like any. now to do it from it at some of these spots from what I hear but um so you got to get somebody

runs about 30th because everybody can spot in the lead oh yeah it's easy spot for the guy leading but when you're 30th you got your work cut out speaking of nick on the way home way back to the airport yesterday they didn't run good yesterday they were kind of 20s we got by him a couple times and I was like he's like two down I'm like yeah he's take your customize headset he said yeah exactly he said I don't know how anybody does that every week like you run like It's the, we talk about it all the time. Fast cars are easy to spot forward. Like if you're going forward, Claire, Claire, Claire, you're good.

Yeah. But before we- Are open. First of all, Joel, thank you for finally coming. You are probably been the most requested guest of DBC here for the last few months. But we got this shit here called Prairie Fire. And apparently Prairie Fire won the original. One Idiot Award from Brett Griffin.

Oh. For a paint scheme or something. So, yeah, it's RW. you are paint scheme that looked like true X or something. So I believe this is supposed to taste like fireball. So we'll close this out with a shot because we haven't drank enough today. No. But cheers to you guys. Joel, thanks for coming. Thanks for having me. I've been wanting to get down here forever. Andrew Colby, Travis, I guess we'll lock you in here today. Dalton.

Brandon. Brandon. Ben Walton. Ben Walton. Micah. Thank you for Mike. Andy Griffith. Andy Griffith. Casey, don't worry about me. I just wanted to see Casey. What's her name? Gray Goose. Do you say her? Abby.

Abby. Abby. So thank you to everybody for making this show what it is. You listeners, I think we got up to the number 11 episode in the country last week somehow. Yeah. Maybe this will get top ten. It's going to be long enough.

I promise you that. Some more stuff about Austin Dillon. I'll do it. Cheers to you guys. Cheers to everybody. Thank you guys. And thanks for listening. Thanks.

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