Door Bumper Clear - 318 - The Daytona 499 & Bubba Wallace Joins

Episode Date: February 20, 2024

The guys are finally all back in the Bojangles Studio to recap the 66th running of The Great American Race. Bubba Wallace joins and unveils his Atlanta MoneyLion scheme talks which tracks he hopes to win at in 2024, his mentoring of Rajah Caruth, and the closest he's been to firing Freddie! Want more DBC? Check out and subscribe to the new DBC YouTube channel! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

The following is a production of Dirtymoe Media. Still good, by one. Throw number dry, man, it will come to you. Fall asleep on the gate out back. Keep up in top here. You come in top here. Keep up in bottom three. Bottom three, right.

Go, go, go, go, go, go. Door, bumper, clear. Still there, bumper, bumper, clear, clear, clear. Welcome to door bumper clear. My name is Casey Boat, the host, sometimes, and official babysitter of these guys. Speaking of babies. Oh. Well, yeah.

Yep. TJ, who are you? What happened? What happened? Can you describe it? I can explain how this happened. We're really starting off strong. Yes, yes.

I'm a baby boat. I guess there's probably a bunch of babies. So somebody sent me a tweet over the winter, and it said, if I were Chad Bowd, I would keep Casey pregnant. So I sent the tweet to Casey, and ironically, she was already pregnant. Good work. Yeah. Good work. So she said she was going to use it for a baby announcement, but she didn't.

Well, I figured maybe a picture with Chloe is classier. There were a few more of like, it's about time, Chad, or congratulations, Chad. Nothing, nothing for me. But yes, thank you. We'll keep the show rolling, though. The men do the heavy lifting, right? Yeah. Okay.

All of it. That's true. Whatever. 100%. TJ, who did you spot for this weekend? Oh, I had, who did I have? I had a long week. Yeah, it's been a long week.

I had a guy that's famously quoted. I'm going to put my foot on the floor, and I'm either going to meet God or see a check of a flag. So, yeah, Andy Jay and the Harker Race. I've seen the heat that his car was in the next restart. Yeah, we almost met God. I had Bailey Curry in the trucks and Brad, of course. So long week, though.

Brett Griffin's Spotted this year for Richard Childress Racing. I'm going to do seven cup races. And number one on my list is Chicago Street course for all you haters out there. So I'll see y'all in Chicago. That's ironic. Yeah. I heard about St. Louis. Karma.

I want to St. Louis, too. Are you? Wow. Yeah. I'm going to hang out with Freddie. Wow. There's a lot of fringe benefits in that town if you're around Freddie. Allegedly.

Which driver? Just say no. I can't tell you which driver yet. Oh, my God. Some shit's a secret. Come on. Like we don't probably all right. If we guess it, will you say it?

I can't tell you. I can't confirm or deny anything else. What's up, Freddie Craft spotter for Kyle Seag. Unfortunately, didn't make the race last night. Who did I have in Trucks? Ty Dillon? Long week, Freddie. Six laps in the truck race.

Justin Bonsonior, 20 laps in the Arker race. So my weekend was pretty fucking until our new guest in the studio, Bubba Wallace picked up the slack last night and got us a top five out of the deal. What up, B? What up, homies? About time. guys invited me on the show. We've invited you before.

Listen here. Bullshit. Son of a f*** is so dumb that he's been on the show before. He's been on. I just one time I never been on it. It was virtual. It was virtual. Yeah.

You were still on the show. I got an episode that's as Bubba Wallace. DVD. So on that show, I asked you on that, literally on the show, I said, have you talked to Michael Jordan? And you said no. And it wasn't a month later you were driving for him. Remember that?

Because Freddie hits me on a table. He's like, you can't say that. I was like, why not? I was like, remember that? Because we had just talked about it. So me and Bubba had just talked about it literally like the day before that podcast. He's like, I think I'm going to drive for 23. And I hadn't talked to Bubba.

I mean, I hadn't talked to Brett. So then I'm sitting on the show and I'm like, we're just going. He goes, you talk to Michael Jordan? I'm like, yo, I'm like, what the fuck? I'm like, Bubba's going to think I went back and told Brett about this shit. He just talked about this. Right. Hey, by the way, we're driving for him.

You don't know. I love it. Oh, man. What's up? How was your week in Daytona? My week? Oh, God. I forgot you moved there.

I moved there. So I tried to get Bubba to come on. I said, when are you going to Daytona? So he said Thursday. So I thought he meant Thursday, like the week leading up to the 500 or something. And I was like, all right, you want to do the episode after the clash? He's like, no, I'm going to be in Florida. I'm like, oh, you mean you're leaving Thursday as in like tomorrow?

This is back like the beginning. January 18. So then he just moved to Florida for a month. No income tax there. I don't think it works if you just lived there for a month. We get charged in every state we race in, so I don't know. That's true. Did you, like, live in the mother home?

Yeah. Why? I mean, of all places. My motorhome's nice, by the way, Casey. I mean, no, wait. I'm talking about Florida. It's nice in my house. Damn.

Do you go to Florida all the time, Casey? I know. I'm from there. I'm just saying what. Well, so I had to go down for MSA, right? And so we did the Roar. Great experience. We did the Roar.

And I was asked by this. I appreciate Toyota for, you know, listening to me and wanting to help me out. And so I've never paid attention to the Rolex race until the green flag dropped. And then the checker flag fell. That was it. So they're like, hey, we got an opportunity. You want to do the roar? And I'm like, yeah, sign me up.

What the fuck's the roar? I didn't find out what the roar was to the roar was over with. We're down there testing. And they're like, all right, well, that was the roar. And I'm like, oh, so I'm not racing? They're like, no, no, no, no. We'll race next weekend. I was completely lost doing that.

That's funny. I had no idea. So we went down for, what, that was three days of testing, Friday, Saturday, Sunday. Were you there spot? No, we didn't go to the roar. We came down midweek. Gotcha. So then I flew back home.

Amanda was the one that stayed down for a full month. I had to come back for a couple of production days. But the weather was a little bit nicer down there. And you just kind of got away for a little bit. It wasn't really vacation because there's no. not to do in Daytona. But it wasn't just nice to get away for a little bit and enjoy the Florida weather. I mean, we can cut this if you can't talk about it, but this son of the

got to disqualified twice in the same race, I think. Twice. How do you do that? You got to squalify and qualifying because I guess he touched the car. So, yeah, I got out. What? Qualifying, I pull down pit road and I'm like, all right, well, we're not going to go any faster. So I'm getting out and the team's talking to me.

and they're like, you know, good job, and I'm getting out, sit there, talk to them, shut the door. I get back to the bus, and Kevin Conway, he was kind of like, he's running that whole deal for Smooge over there, and he was in the second team car. Well, he calls me, he's like, hey, are you around? I'm like, yeah, what's up? He said, can you come back over here? We got something in our hands, and I'm like, okay. Meanwhile, we qualify 20th.

There's 27 cars. Qualified 20th. So I called him, I'm like, what's up? He was like, they're dekeying you for getting out of the car. I'm like, what? And so we go down there and told him to like, hey, I was doing an interview. Like, I had to get out, you know, promoting the sport.

Not the case. Just got out because that's what we usually do. And I come to find out if they de-cued us. It wasn't because I got out. It was because I touched the door to close it. Wow. Touching the car. Yeah.

So I didn't know that. So we went from 20th to 27th. By lap one, I was back to 20th. Yeah, a big difference. Yeah, big difference. And then I go run my stint, and I'm all done. And the team's like, all right, well, we're going to run John Hunter next. And then Corey Hound's going to finish this out.

So I think you're pretty good. You know, you ran your lot of time. No, I didn't. So you cute. Yeah, you have like a mandatory amount of time you have to drive. I had to run 40 minutes, 39 minutes, 20 seconds for old BWallis. Solid. DQed.

DQed. Again. Again. That's not false. We blew up with eight minutes to go. Dicke you. And you guys complain about the NASCAR. Oh, man.

All right. Well, on continuing on to Daytona, let's move on to this weather, fun-filled weekend week. T.J., how many cars do you wreck down there? Just curious. Oh, he'd say none. He'll tell you none.

He didn't do anything wrong. How many? No. How many cars did Brad drive-thru? I usually said it by how many caught on fire. Dude. He's a common denominator. Yeah.

It's a lot. To 21. Two years ago, he dumped 21? Well, that was bad, yeah. That was pretty bad. Yeah, that was pretty bad. He jumped the 21 this weekend? Well, 21 was in a bad spot.

Yeah, because he's in front of you. No, he was in the whole old lane. He should have been in a better spot. Damn, Harrison. He was in a, he was in a very bad scenario. Yeah, yeah. There's a car outside me. He's getting pushed by Brad.

That's a bad spot. I got to keep that. in mind. Yeah, yeah. Bub, there's a guy outside with Brad on his bumper. He might want to move to the left as far as you can. I mean, I think if you look at the common denominators, though, it's guys that don't. There's one common denominator.

No, there's... It's Brad Kislauski. It's a guy in the six behind them. That's what you would say. I don't know which one of you idiots did it last night, but there was somebody on counteration that wrote Brad push with just a lowercase R, so it said bad push like we always. Yeah. Is your radio working during all that?

I'm just curious. My question is, like, if you want to talk about it, then we can get in a while. We can talk about it. We can talk about it because. Show me the data. If you want to see how these happen, don't, I mean, the only reason that the Denny didn't cause a big wreck in that dual race because he pulled up seven mile an hour, six, seven an hour slower than the guy coming to him is because McDowell got, got shuffled out right there. Otherwise, there's probably a bunch of us that are going to wreck right there.

And these guys are pulling up. But we didn't wreck, right? Thank God, because one got shuffled out of line. I mean, we were all going to be piloted to that one. These guys are pulling up with no run, and they just put the brakes on, and you don't really, like, Talladega, host fire pulls up in front of Brad. Oh, my car doesn't drive very good, but I'm going to pull up and try to get pushed to the front. So if you pull up to the third lane, what do you expect to have happened? If you go to the third lane, what are you doing it for? Yeah, you're trying to go forward. You're trying to go forward.

But if you can't take a push and your car is driving like, crap, then why would you pull to the third lane without first place? No momentum. Like, if you're going to go through the lane, what do you do? You build a run. You start it. You pull it. These guys are pulling up there.

And the kid spotting for the 42s. Like, I told him to go up there. Who's spotting for him? Blanchard. This is where you, like, do your homework. Like, learn how these guys like you. I think he didn't do anything wrong. They didn't pull up with no momentum.

They pulled up and you didn't catch him until off of four. It wasn't like they pulled up and stacked you up. By the time we got back, no, he stacked us up in three and four. He absolutely stacked us up. We had to hit the brakes because John Hunter pulled up in the middle of the corner and then we came back to him. I didn't think that was a bad pull. I would have done the same. That wasn't, but that formed the gap.

And then he just stays up there to do that. And then we got a guy pushing us to him. So we're going to have more of a run. So the block started in three and four in the middle of the corner when he was he was doing the, well, I'm kind of going to come up, but I'm not going to come up. So Brad hits the brakes, and then the Gat forms. And then we got the guy shoving us because we're in a third lane. We're trying to go forward.

And you can only stay up there when you get to the guy. And then you're pushing a guy that you really haven't had a lot of experience, and everyone's lined up. And John Hunter, they just come off center a little bit. And Brad thinks he's going to be here. And John Hunter moves here two feet. All it takes is two feet with them bumpers. And when you come back, you're going to get hooked.

So guys, I think you had TJ talking more than he's ever talked on this show. It's just a coincidence. I fell asleep twice. It's just, yeah, everybody on Twitter wants to know what TJ's take was. There we go. Yeah, well, I mean, do you, like, learn the, like, these guys need to learn the

etiquette of trying to pull that lane if you're going to do it. Don't just go up there. Listen, I think that deal was, you know, I think that, I thought Brad was more at fault on Thursday night than he was on Sunday because, or Monday. day, whatever f*** day it was. But because I think that deal was, I don't think John Hunter by any means was out of line for making the movie a day. He wasn't way slower anymore.

And then I think that he just got light off of four and Brad hit him at the wrong time and turned him. I don't think that was like. He wasn't stacking. It wasn't like he was shoving him and they got turned. But that deal on Thursday night where he pushed eight through the back of the 24, that was a little bit questionable, especially when Brad gets on TV and says he didn't know the 24 was in that way. Well, so what happened is.

It's 100% your fault. Notice that. So what happened is when Blaney went to throw that block. Or no, Blaney went to move up and then came back. How many red, did you spot this weekend? No, but I watched you wreck out the field every first 30 months. Every time they'd come back from commercial with six and wrecked somebody else. Well, I'm glad you were there to witness it, Brett.

Brad said he couldn't see the 24 or the 24 because... He said he didn't know he was there. Yes, because when Blaney went to move up, the 24 reacted in front of him and Brad can't... Then the 12 came back, and as soon as we started pushing him, I'm yelling tight, tight. Tight, tight, tight, tight, tight. But Brad didn't know there was still somebody in front of them because the runs happened so fast that I'm yelling tight. And by the time Brad lifts, they're already basically tight. So just. Now, now on to another wreck that happened. And Jeff Kluck tweeted this out. Who? Jeff Kluck.

Jeff Kluke. Oh, here we go again. Did you hear? Jeff Kluck. You're the worst. I don't make you say this. He tweeted out a few of the comments that Alex had. to make about, you know, causing the big one. And Bubba, this is for you. He said he didn't even know what happened that he had no idea. He caused it. Do you guys just like black out? Because I feel

like this is something we talked about with Ross too. You can't see. Or you just make it up. So Alex Bowman is pushing the 24. The 24 causes a wreck. And Alex did not know what caused the wreck. He said he didn't know. Right. So he couldn't see it. Did you not know he was pushing 24? He said, Jeff said, on the wreck with the bump, were you all just going for it? And what happened there? And he said, yeah, I didn't really see what started it. I feel like it started in the third lane.

They did, right when you pushed William out of shape and he hooked the guys in the third lane? Yeah, interesting. I don't know. I would have, if I was Alex, if that was me in that scenario, I would, oh, that one's on me for sure. Let me ask you this, though. I mean, you've been doing us a long time. you're good at play racing, super speedway racing, whatever we want to call it. How much over the years has your ability to see gone down from when you started?

A lot. Actually, I take that back because I don't remember my first one. That's good. Usually the first one was the best one. My first one was when Joel was spotting for me in the 43. In the speedway in the cup car. Oh, that's right. In July race.

Yeah, July race in 17. and I don't remember, but I've always been like the guy to, the spotters probably talk shit about us, but I'm always left. I'm always looking the whole race. I was super mindful of it because I didn't want to eat my words that I've been trying to preach to Harrison, who's run over me three times now, or Rajah when I went to his ass after the truck race, but it's always being aware.

When I'm pushing somebody and like we're trying to go forward, only time I'm looking at that bumper to make sure I'm lined up. Other than that, I am spotting myself. Thank God. Yeah, because we got a homeboy over here. Lugano's leading both duels here. Like, how the, how the, how that happened? But I am always, I am always looking 10 carlinks up ahead of me.

So you fade left so you can see. Yes. Yeah. And that puts me in a bad spot with the bottom line, because if I'm running the top, bottom lines there, yeah, for sure. It gets very close. That left rear gets close. Yeah, but I'm mindful of that too.

I'm like, okay, I'm crowding these guys, let me come up. But I want to see what's happening because I see who's around me. I'm like, all right, you're fine, you're fine, you're fine, but, oh, they're getting dicey up there. I need to watch this to call it in case he doesn't see it, and that's what's it. So I don't remember what year had changed, but I remember after practice, you know, Elliot sat me down. He said, look, you're phenomenal at keeping me updated on the runs and the gaps. I can't see anymore out front. You've got to tell me the gap in front of the car that I'm behind.

And I'm like, holy cow. So, I mean, for you guys, when Alex says he didn't see it, he obviously saw himself pushing the 24, but he may not have saw what happened. Yeah, but it's usually like, oh, I didn't see the car in front of the 24 wreck. You turned the 24 into the 6, 6 into the 22. Yeah, 24 goes, yeah, pretty sure you should see that. Yeah, I don't know about that.

Now, Freddie, would you typically tell Bubble, like, yeah. So, like, in that scenario, they looked like they were, hooked up and they were rolling pretty good to pushing them so at that point i'm just counting bubba down to what we're going to hit you know with what william was going to run into it's three two one tight and it was i think what got screwy was like you guys not that you did anything wrong like you pulled down a little bit more and william tried to like change lanes he was follow the middle and i think i think he was like when he started to move at any time like once he moved like that push got him out of you can't move with the Chevy bumpers that well you can't change lanes with those bumpers you know

What's funny about that is, like, I go back to last year and it was about to happen last night. But we're so, I am so like, oh, I'm not going to push in the corners. Like, I don't want to cause a big wreck. Down the straightways, I'll push you all I can, try to be center. My batting record is pretty good at not causing a wreck. Great. Here we go. I just wanted up to field at Atlanta.

Yeah, here we go. I'll wreck myself like I did last year. That's okay. But when it's last lap, obviously everything's out the window. I'm like, how in the hell are we not crashing right now? Because I remember pushing the 8 for a whole corner or a whole lap last year. And it's super easy. But 50 laps into the race, I'm like, oh, my God, I'm going to crash him.

Other than that, I'm like, hang on, motherfucker, here we go. Yeah, that push at the end of the backstretch. Like, you've got to, and if you're changing lanes, that's where it gets dicey because the guy pushing, you know, and finally, like I saw Brad and I thought we were actually probably going to wreck with the one car because the one was not going to relinquish the front of the lead without. That's what I started telling. We were having our own issue at that point.

I'm like, they're going to wreck. It's just that one is over here just being ridiculous. I mean, he had the whole track covered. So we finally got inside the one and I'm like, oh, we're going to, and we wanted to get to the lead. So, and 24 was going with us. So I think we could have cleared the one, but never got a, never really got. The thing that drives me crazy about. plate racing is like the two guys that start the big one and wreck the whole field finish

first and first and second. And that was honestly some of the best super speedway racing with this package that I've seen at the very end there whenever they were dicing up at front. There was almost a wreck into one, maybe a few laps before that. You remember that? Like, did you see them all lifting? I mean, there was almost a big wreck into one. And everybody lifted and took care of each other.

And it was like, oh, that's, that's cool. You know what I mean? And it was. I'll tell you what's not cool. Is this? package. I hate this package. It's the word. Like, we're literally riding around out there four seconds off the pace and beginning of the race. Like, what the fuck? What's minimum speed? Y'all are running 52 flats as a pack.

Wow. I don't know if it was it that slow. Dude, it was like a 5170, 170 miles an hour is what y'all were doing. AJ Amandinger was running by himself faster than y'all were. It's just, I get it. Like, I see people, and like, Gluck's polls are like 80% great race. And I'm like, it must look great on television. Because, I always ask Amanda after the race. I sit there in the bus and I was like, well, how did it look? She'll say that I was boring. And I was like, last night, boring race, she was like, no, it was crazy.

That's what I think people were saying the same thing. It's like, it's technically comers and goers. Like the whole race, somebody was willing to drive to the front, but it's such fools gold. Like you're like, all right, I'm going to drive to the front. All right, I come down pit road and now I'm last again. And you can't like, we're, JR, one of our engineers said it best. I thought yesterday in our pre-race stuff, he's like, this is three duels. It's three duels.

So you go out there, you ride around for 40 laps, save whatever fuel you can, come in the pits, hope you cycle to the front, and now you've got to run a 20-lap stage to the end. It's like you can drive up there again. Like a couple times like normally in years past me and Bubba would take that top line every time. I knew he was going and we would just drive to the front and then be leading or control the race. Well, it was pointless to do that yesterday because we'd come down pit road and need one more second of fuel than everybody else. And now you're last again. It's like.

Kyle, Kyle has a tire problem. Yeah. And normally when you get mired in the back, Daytona's, it's tough to get back up through. And he drove right back to the front. If you're willing to go, like you could drive by the whole field. They run, like 50, the leaders are running 50%

throttle leading the race. I've seen 20% one time for a lot. Oh my dad. I mean, I don't know. I guess if it looks good on TV, we're never going to change it. But it's boring. Like, it's, I used to love spotting these races. I used to look forward to these, and it's,

now I dread it because you don't even know what you should be doing. Like, you don't know. And it seems. You're not racing until the very end. Yeah, the last 20 laps. Somebody, a friend of mine texted me yesterday, and she's like, oh, it's going to be, you know, can you delay to start any? I'm not going to be home from work until 5 o'clock. I'm like, don't worry, we ain't going to race until 7.30.

And that's like the 730 was like the big one. It was like 735. And she texted me. She's like, oh, you're right. But it's just like, I don't know. It just sucks. Like it just sucks. Because you can see, you could visually, maybe the average fan can't.

Like the guys that have done it forever. Like, you can just sit up there and going, this is slow. Like we're really slow. How do you fix it? I don't know. I was thinking about that. You can't get like the stage. It's not a stage thing.

No, it's because you're, it's fuel capacity, right? You're going to say fuel no matter what. Exactly. You're going to say fuel. So I don't know. Yeah, we saw it.

I think it came to fruitition, as T.J. likes to say, the year, the year, Ricky won. Was that last year? Yeah. When he was just the one, like he had like topped off one restart before the last one. And when we all came down and he just put less fuel in, cycle to the lead and won the race. or cycle to the front one the race and everybody's like, uh-huh, well, if we just put less fuel in the last pit stop, like we're all going to be in good shape. So now that's all we do. Like, when have you ever seen

the whole field come down pit road on a lap 10 caution? That's what we all did yesterday. You know, it's like, it's just, I don't know how you fix it, but man, it's, it's not fun. And then like, we were talking about like strategy-wise, I was like, the only thing we can't do is become last at the end of the race. Like, you just can't do it because there's nowhere to go. Like, you might be able to, you might be able to get up there, like, and get, It's in the top 10 maybe, but if, and then it just breaks. Like, we got lucky yesterday, like, three or four guys decided to go to the top, and we just filled the middle and found some holes.

But, like, if those guys don't go to the top, like, you're just going to ride around two by two and finish 15th or something like that. So it's just, it's hard. One thing I noticed, too, William gets out of the car, and he looks like he just left a barbershop. Like, he's not sweating. Oh, yeah. Like, what is making y'all so much more cool inside the car? Bubbo was probably sweating.

This son, he sweats. I was actually fine. He's sprighted right now. He's sweating right now. I was with that bright-ass light on him on the green screen. You don't look with your titty light. You don't like to cover it. Nice.

You'll never unsee it now. You'll never unsee it. Damn, I'm lost. Is it a cool shirt? What is it? It's cool shirts, for sure. That helped me out a lot. But also, I mean, it was pretty cold.

It was chilly. Yeah. Hell of it was cold. It was really cold. So that helped out. But, yeah, we got, our 23 stuff is solid. Everybody at 2311 does a solid job of making sure the drivers are cool. But, yeah, I was good.

Of all the things that we saw in the broadcast, I would say probably when y'all looked, the damn toughest you ever looked was when they went back in one of the wrecks, and they actually were showing the end-car cameras and how violent it is inside the car. And they made a comment that this new wheel, the new, the new, the new, steering pinions and all the crap y'all got in there now like it'll it'll snap your wrist worse than the other ones yeah the blaney got his hand called yeah yeah you have to be careful um i don't know if i've had any close calls uh with the wheel we are so f***ed this week i know he can be in a sling you wreck the field just a different different type different feel uh everything

with this next chin car so uh definitely have to be mindful for sure and and it's hard because i think he's got side swiped or something i didn't see that right or I didn't see him in that wreck, but Amanda says, like, he hit the wall or something, and that got him. So, yeah, you can you? You know, it's like, I remember the first person I really remember letting go of the wheel was Danica. Remember when? Oh, yeah, because she came over the Indycar. Yeah, there was drama around whether that was accurate or that was. Yeah. Well, Harvick said, of all the cup cars he's driven, this one is the most flat-lant with the wheel. Oh, I'm sure. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. What about the finish? I know, obviously, that probably was the most exciting part of the race,

but I know Brett, you are going back and forth on Twitter around. I thought the finish sucked. That's surprising. Because, I mean, it's the Daytona 500. It's the biggest race of the year. You've waited two days for it to stop raining, and it just comes down to a crash, and at what point they throw the caution. And TV never really did a good job before they went off the air to come back and say,

this is when the caution lights come on, or this is the shot that we're using to determine the Daytona 500. there was an angle on TV and boy they went away from it really fast where it appeared Bowman was in the lead when the caution lights came on and when I say in the lead I'm talking by a full car length in the lead but no

we didn't use that one and then they declare William Byron the winner and it's like man you guys are opening a can of worms here and I still haven't seen video proof of when all the caution lights came on who was where I need to see what the rule book says because

if it says when you can see clearly from the one video I saw the green light shuts off Williams leading then obviously whatever milliseconds later the yellow light comes on Bowman's looks like he's ahead but I'm assuming

probably shouldn't do this with them but they hit the race contractor hits a button up there that's the caution button I'm assuming when he hits that button that shuts the you know it's flipping them lights and that's when their freeze kicks in and then they showed that picture last night

where you can clearly see Byron's ahead, Bowman's creeping up on him, and you can see the flag stand and the lights are off. There's no green light. It has a hint to yellow like yellow's coming on. So the split second delay. So that split second delay,

I don't know if it's, because somebody tweeted me, which I didn't go back and read the rule book last night, but somebody said it's when the yellow lights illuminate, which if that's the case, maybe it should have been Bowman. But I'm pretty sure like when they hit that button and it shuts them green lights off,

that's their, we've just froze it and now that's the picture. But imagine sitting there for four hours watching this race and I as a new fan get zero explanation and William Byron has declared the winner. I think that Doug Kobe had the best tweet of the night when he said, imagine going to the Super Bowl and with like 10 seconds in the game,

they just smash all the shit to tell you the Giants of the champions. Me and him were texting at the end of the race. I don't know. Good joke, Freddie, good joke. I mean, it's like this thing was, Couldn't have been scripted any better, and it wasn't scripted. But you've got all the guys that are in the front of this race contending to win were all featured in this Netflix documentary.

It's Denny. It's Ross. It's Joey. Like, you literally are like, man, if you're a new fan, this is why you're here. And then it's like, boom, the race is over 24's a winner. And it's like, show me video proof. And let me, don't show me a picture on Twitter after the race. Not when I've been sitting here for four hours.

And that's what happened. And so I was disgusted it ended under caution. I was disgusted that you guys couldn't race harder. I mean, like you said, I'm not an average fan sitting at home. I'm sitting there watching it going, this sucks. They're riding around at 50% throttle. Race. This is the Daytona 500, but there's no reason to because if you don't obey the strategy,

then you're not going to be a contender. So, like, it was, I was very frustrated at the end of the race. There's no way I would have, I almost, like I saw you guys saying, you know, the arc of race was embarrassing. The truck race is embarrassing. The way that race ended, it was fucking embarrassing. Well, Bob did answer your question a few minutes ago when a fan asked about how they made that call. And I guess they go off of a timestamp where the light might not have illuminated in that picture.

But when they hit the button, they use that timestamp. Show me the video. I mean, I agree. I think the broadcast it made it a little bit more complicated. Well, you can see the video. Like, if that's the way it grows, you can see it on the video that they showed or somebody showed. on Bowman's in car where he's creepy. I mean, he's coming.

Like he's going to, we, I wish it would have been green because Bowman would have been a sitting duck. I don't know if Bell or us would erect each other to win, but it was, we were going to be pushing the top. It was going to be Bowman, Bell, and then us. And then we were going to be, you know, we were going to have all the momentum and probably been able to pull out and pass Bowman whenever we wanted. So I wish it stayed green. But like he had all the momentum. Byron was going to be done. And then like you see he's, Byron's clearly ahead and the green light shuts off.

And I'm assuming that's their timestamp. Bob Pokra. not be the one explaining to us how the winner of the Daytona 500 came to be. Bob Packers is my encyclopedia for NASCAR. If I have a question, I go to Bob. Maybe Fox should put him in the fucking booth so they can tell us what happens. You're getting a phone call. Seriously.

You're getting a phone call. This is like our first show back. Like, can you just waiting again? I'm just speaking up from what I saw at home. And it's not. You get a car. You get a car. It makes sense now.

He's talking Chicago and St. Louis. He's trying to get a phone. Yeah. He's got to go. NASCAR did Twitter. NASCAR did. tweet out the picture and then Mike Ford from NASCAR also. He's saying he wants it on the broadcast.

We know that's tweeted. And listen, like, they took their time because we were riding around. I think we made it all the way to, I don't know, three and four before I said, like, it's over. Like, you know, they were like, because you could tell and you can see this like, you can see this in the Xfinity race versus the cup race. I think they were trying to beat the leaders to the white flag. You know, I think that they were, that start, that rec starts to happen. They try to flip that switch, trying to beat the leaders, which that was a spin.

and like three guys spin to the bottom tracks clear. Like we can keep digging. They wrecked their asses off off of two in the infinity race and they ran around the track and came back to the line. Sheldon lift? I don't know. Well, he had no help. Absolutely not.

I don't know, but he had no help also. He lost all of it. Like, he went from three back to two. I think he lived. He probably did, man. I mean, they were, they were wrecking. I mean, they were. They were wrecking.

Like the 39 spun went back up, pounded the fence. The whole field's coming. Well, that's the thing. With ours, too, like the two and one, they went back up the track. Did they? Yeah. I just know, like, I was like, wow, there. But, I mean, the yellow was probably already out.

But, like, as soon as they started spinning, they were, I think they were trying to, like, try to get it before they got to the line. Which, I mean, I would do, yeah. It's just hard, because, I mean, I've been watching these races a long time. I mean, you watched Della Earnhardt win his Daytona 500. Caution is out. They race back to the line. Obviously, things have changed.

We don't do that anymore. So, like, as a fan, it sucks to have that race in under caution. Yeah. Yeah, I guess, like, how do you, I don't know, because it gets tricky, right? Like, put back in, like, what was the line on the back? No. No, no, no, no, no. What I'm saying is segment it.

Yeah. Yeah. So if there's a wreck in that part, before that line, okay, you race to that line, or if it's after that, and you race, but I don't know. Should you have done the green white checkered finish? No. You can't. We should have.

We should have. Well, no, we should just not thrown the yellow because we would have been a really good shape. Right. But, yeah, like, I seen people, oh, just keep, why are we have these stupid rules? You know why? Because we would have done that 12 more fucking times if you just kept letting us do it. Oh, we would have been seeing. We would have to, like, you have to, like, once you take the white, like that's it.

We can't keep doing it. Winning a NASCAR Cup Series race is the hardest thing to do in all of professional team sports. Fair? Fair. I mean, never played. He's not arguing that. You won a couple of them. I don't know of anything in team sports that's harder to do.

Don't ask the Giants. So it's just hard when you're watching it play out, and you're like, you're high, like TV didn't even really celebrate who won the Daytona 500. Like it was just, it was weird. It was weird. How'd you like to broadcast, Brett? My phone was going off the entire. Every commercial break.

Oh, my God. Every five fucking minutes was a commercial break. And it was pissing me off. Every fan that's ever complained on this show about commercials, I'm siding with you today. Today? Holy. At the commercials.

It was Commercial Fest, 2004, and then there was some racing in between. It was insane. I was texting Clint. I was wearing Clint out. You just said there wasn't any racing. You couldn't watch it for the commercials. So you hate the racing and you hate the commercial.

I was wearing Clint out. He texted me every one of the, when I got on the plane last night, he's like, holy commercials. I said they might as well show commercials. right there 20% throw. I know. Why not?

Take a rest, Brett. Geez, calm down. Oh, man. Well, I know the Journeymoe media social account tweeted out their weekly fan vote for best paint scheme from each race. And for Daytona, it looks like the number one, number six, 23, 24, and 45 were the favorites this week. So. 23 is really the favorite. They just put it in a miracle order.

Right. Whatever you say, right. Sure. Y'all do have some fly paint schemes. Yeah. You know what I think it is? Fly. It's the black wheels.

We're the only team that runs black wheels? Yeah. And you notice it too. Like it really brings it together. For sure. Yeah. Like that car, like that car last night. That was a good one.

That was a good car. At night, it was a little bit tricky, but it was good. Speaking of paint schemes, I think you guys might have a pretty cool announcement. Yeah, I heard, I hear this week, we're running back the old money-line teal, Bub. And listen, you talk about a good-looking car. This one stands out. And Bubba will give me crap all the time about not spotting the right car. You're still not going to spot the right one.

It's hard to get it wrong this week with the MoneyLine Thiel car. I think we got a picture of it somewhere maybe that's going up here. But yeah, I'm looking forward to it, man. I'm looking forward to having the Money Line folks back at the track. You know, I know you probably appreciate these MoneyLines cars. Oh, it's all teal. Yeah. I haven't seen it yet.

I don't know. I haven't seen it either. It's what time's the race Sunday? Do we know? Nobody knows. Three o'clock, probably. Damn. That looks sick.

That thing looks bad ass. That's another fly one, Brett. That is fly. Freddie, you better not miss this on track. You know what kids would say? That's nice drip or whatever. That's nice. What?

Yeah. No, that's that's drip on a whip. Yeah. Oh, yeah, that's a good one. There you go. Drip on the whip. Yeah, that looks good. You can't say that.

You probably shouldn't say that. We're trying to promote sponsors here. Yeah. We're a PG-13. Seriously. Money teal is back. All money teal. While these idiots are talking and making no nonsense at all,

go ahead and download the Moneyline app today and start making better decisions with money, which I think everybody at this table, especially Bubba, probably needs to do. For sure. It's one-stop shot for all things money. I hear they're giving away some cold hard cash too, right? Just head to their social media account.

Yeah, it's rig. They're giving away cash. I know. I'm about to head there right now, actually. Speaking of cash, we've got to trade some bourbon bottles. You got Elmer T. Lee in the car out there? I might. I might have something in my truck.

I'll trade you. Sid, you want to grab my book back, please? Uh-oh. This is why I love Bubba right here. This is the reason. And Cindy's looking at you like, seriously. Just bring it on over here. So Burb-Bub-Bub-Bub.

I go so excited as I can't even talk. That's the wrong sponsor. We're doing the other one. But me and Bubba always texting back and forth about bourbons. And I've seen this bourbon get a lot of love. And I think it's your favorite, right? There's multiples in there. You hear it a bit.

Yeah. Oh, we could try this right now. Right now, we need some cups. Yeah, we need some cups. Casey, grab us some cups. I've always wanted to try this. We got some of the years. There's not a shortage of drinking things in this place.

This bourbon will clean it up. You've never had Elmer? No, man. And I know you love it. So it's a... There you go. Dry February? I got a meeting in a little while.

So do I. That's why I'm drinking. Give me one of them chocolate glasses. I'll try it. Oh, God. I'll tell you. These are nice chocolate. Oh, geez.

I'm like a bartender over here. You're doing good. In our DBC special glasses. Elmer, I will say, it's not the best one? no it's really it's no it's really damn good but this is what got me started in the bourbon so that's like yeah it's like everything is ranked after that how about we still we talked a lot about that full speech on here but the best part about it was boot bootie's house is getting broken into i hope he knows that like did you see that did you watch a show so my two favorite people on the netflix documentary

are hamlin's dad and booty those are my two favorite characters in this thing for sure it's got a new good nose on huh yeah yeah tastes like can and and that's the thing people just taste it. Now, you've got to smell it a few times. Always smell it before you taste it. It's the bourbon trick. 1,000 percent. Oh, my, my. You guys laughing?

Well, I love bourbon. All right. Now I'm going to taste it. I'm going to give a review. Got swirl it around a little bit. Oh, yeah, that's good. That's good. That's top-notch.

I hate it. You see Freddy's face? He hated every bit of that. Freddy don't love bourbon. I'm not a bird in the lover. The best we brought John over. I wasn't doing a shot. I don't know.

We brought John over to Brett's one night and my brother, John. And Brett's got all these fancy, expensive bourbons. John's like, John, you drink is like Jack and Coke when we go out or something like that. Next thing I know, he's got one of Brett's badass bourbons pouring a cup. He's like, you got Coke and Brett's like, you know. What was he mixed? I said you better not put coke in that bourbon. I think it was like E.H. Taylor.

And then it wasn't no time. Brandon McRillels is over there. and he's like, man, you got Blantins. I pour him some on ice. He drinks heavy, goes to pour half of it down the sink. I said, I will murder you if you pour that down in the sink. Jeez. That's right.

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I want to know something, Bubba. How did you get hooked up with Freddie? Like, did you pick Freddy or did you get given Freddy? How did y'all get together? I got giving Freddy. He got to get given Freddy from old Herm. Oh, Mike Herman. So Herm got you hooked up with Freddy.

So I knew Herm ever since I raced, ever since I started racing, his sister, Elisa, was married to Chris Rogers. That's who got me started. And so when we went K&N racing, 2010, that was with Rev, and they were like, I think Herm was going to do it. Herm was, yeah, he ended up doing Ty Dillon. He did Ty Dillon at Arka Race somewhere. Yeah. Because he wasn't even there.

So it was like, we got Freddie. And so I was like, okay. And if we didn't win our first race, we wouldn't be together. It happened. The funniest thing that happened that weekend, and I'll never forget this was, you know, I knew. didn't know who Bubba was, and I knew it was rev racing. I knew it was, you know, African-American driver, yada, yada, yada. So I go to the hotel, and this guy comes walking up to me, he's like, you're Freddie Krab? I said, yeah, white as can be. I mean, the hillbilliest son of

I've ever met in my life. And he's like, you're Freddie Krab? I said, yeah, how are you doing? He's like, you remember me? I said, no. You don't remember me? I said, nah. He said, that's because we ain't there met. How you doing?

I'm Darrell Wallace Sr. And I was like, fuck off. You are not Darrell Wallace Senior. So then I call herm. And I'm like, hey, what the, he's like, oh, I forgot to tell you.

I was like, yeah, just met him. He's like, I forgot, Darrell's above his dad's white. I was like, yeah, yep, just met him. I just found that out. That could have been some information. I just got, but that's because we ain't there and met. How you doing?

I'm like, fuck off. You are. not Bubba's dad. I was wrong. As Bobba's dad. 14 years later, still my dad. Freddy's still with you. Here we all are.

14 years later. Freddy's still here. My most favorite memory of that was just screaming. Holy shit. I think we talked about it. We did. Just screaming. Clear, clear, clear, clear, clear.

I'm just driving Greenville. All places like full throttle. And you cannot do that there. I was like, holy shit. calm down and we ended up winning i go there thinking like how we qualify i don't know who this kid is 16 years old and actually i know we're taking a lead with 10 to go i'm like oh god yeah that was a good day that was a fun day that's the picture i tweeted too yeah yeah as greenville first day how many times have you almost fired him oh not you bubba how many times have you almost fired freddie yeah yeah

no i uh oh well he was screaming probably once that was just that first day other than that we've been pretty good I mean, I'll text him when I think he's up or he'll text me when I when I when I f*** up. So we have that relationship to where it ain't no hard feelings like whatever. I know some of these spotters get butt hurt quick when you yell at them. So I, you know, what I told somebody, I mean, Garrett Smithley is the guy that came to mind and this is why I was giving you shit about Brad saying stuff on television is like, no matter what, I wrecked the hell out of Bubba at, I think it was Vegas in a expensive.

car just we were three wide i didn't see a spin we piled into it and yokem was like trying to because i was late i mean there's no no there's no if ands or butts about it i was not low we were bottom of three racing our ass off and i just the guy spun i don't know 20 car likes ahead of us and i was late and by the time bubba saw it he like tried to jerk to the left we spun and and hit him pretty hard and they were like oh you know spotter was long you know and bub was like

nah you know it is what it is but like never at any point would ever throw me on the bus and then like i got that smithely at kansas couple years and it's like freddy Freddie usually pretty good. I don't know what Freddie did. And I'm like, listen, motherfuck. Like, if you want to call me out and be, call me and tell me about it. He's over it for sure. I'm just saying, I quit that day.

Like, I quit that after, I was with Brett. I quit that afternoon. I'm like, I can't spot for you anymore because that's, that trust rackers out the window. I said, you don't, you don't throw me under the bus. Like, if you want to talk about it, me and you, that's fine. Get on TV and talk shit about me. That's over. And I've never had, I said, I use Bubba as an example.

I'm like, you think me and Bubba have never had an issue like on the racetrack? like I've screwed up or he screwed up. Like, neither one of us is ever going to go like, that's stupid son of a Like, what the hell is he doing today? Yeah. And that's just, you know, we'll do it on the podcast. Yeah. That's what the podcast is for.

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Spot on, spot off. Spot off. Spot on. Spot-all. It was super fun yesterday to ride her out there. I am spot-off. Damn. Where did he come from? First topic, and don't come at me with this, this is just an opinion. Kyle Busch will retire without winning the Harley-J-Earl trophy.

He's had 19 attempts so far. Bubba, spot-on, spot-off. Well, how many years do we think you guys left? Anybody know this contract right now? No, I would say he's in a three-year deal, second of a three-year deal. second of a three-year deal. Just guessing. Now he probably knows.

Guessing. No, I'm just guessing. I don't know. Yeah. Who's thoughts for him? Darren. Darren Neal. Yeah.

Yeah. Who arguably is one of the best. Yeah, I like that. I mean, his cars find their way to the front. Yeah. Obviously, one two or three races this weekend. Man, it's interesting, right? Like, you look at, I'll be quick with this,

but you look at Byron, somebody tweeted it, DNF, DNF, DNF, DNF, DNF, DNF, winner. Kyle's been finishing these races and can't do it. You know, we've been finishing and can't get it done. So, It's like, is it like a chosen one type deal? So I am going to say, I'm going to say spot on. Spot on that of your time.

It's getting harder to win these things. It is. It's not a talent thing, but it's just the cards are not. You didn't get the right deck of cards. Well, it used to be a good plate racer. The teams would build, you could build a car for them guys that they could almost do whatever they wanted in like and these guys all the all the plate races before this package the good guys would always and they still do but like they can control the race like you gave

del junior a really great car we got out front it was hard to pass him like you couldn't get around by 10 buddy just keep doing what you're doing yeah so it was easy um but they can manipulate things we can manipulate things with a really good car and now you can't do that now it's this guy I mean you could have got behind anybody the 38 car and shoved him yeah out front, caution comes out on the last left. He wins the raise. Yeah. You know?

I think it's, I think it's spot on. Just the numbers aren't in his favor. You know what I mean? You're like you said, how long has he got left? You're thinking, I mean,

what's he? Five more? You know, like it's probably, it's less than 10. So now if you didn't win, it's not, but he has been better with this package for whatever reason.

You know, he has been, he was in position. We should have, we were, I felt like we were going to have the momentum down the backststatch last year until we,

the Pistronic got wrecked behind us and the wreck move forward four rows. I thought we were going to be pushing him to the lead at least, and then I don't know what was going to happen after that. But, you know, so he was in position then. He was, you know, the restart deal, I think they screwed that up last year. They should have just locked out the front row.

And, but, you know, so for whatever reason the last couple of years, I think he's been better or just in better position, but still, like the numbers are not in your favor. Like if you got five left and you haven't won in the first 19, you know, it's all, I mean, it's at least 50% luck. He's definitely more competitive in this package for sure. think he was in really good shape last year. I just think he made his move too early at the end. And I remember of him being one of the guys, like, you know, like we joked around about earlier

where Brad, like there was a lot of years where you didn't want Kyle pushing. You know, Kyle, like some of the packages, you know, some of the little more unstable packages, like you, like Kyle, there's a lot of times where people turned off the nose of the 18. So, you know, it's- I will say Kyle and I were we work really well together. Oh, yeah. Pushing or being pushed. Like, I look forward to running with the 8 on speed of races. I used to look at this race as a game of skill. And I say that as from the driver perspective, from the guys building the cars. I mean, you went down there and you knew Del Jarrett was going to be fast.

You knew Dale Earnhardt was going to be fast. And now I watch BJ McLeod drive damn near to the lead in the duel because y'all are riding around at half throttle. And the way the wrecks play out at the end, it is more of a game of chance. And that's unfortunate because I appreciated the spotters and the drivers and the mechanics and the crew chiefs and the arrow wind tunnel time. That game of skill that it took to be good. at it. I remember you'd save your tires if you were Clint Boyer for a little while. You also raced in the heat of the day. You know, you finished the race at 4 o'clock. Now they always bleed over into the night. And when that track's cooler, y'all are wide open balls to the wall. I feel like

it's just a game of chance at this point. And that hurts a guy like I always. Remember what they had back then though. They had horsepower. They had horse power. Also though those speedway cars back then were like they were there was a lot of hours. Now they roll out a backup car put a new note. We put a new nose on the car. We ran the same car. Like back then there were so many, there were hundreds of hours by many people in a one car. I remember we would go test, and I know that's a strange word around here, but we would go to a three-day test and do single car runs the entire three days. And Todd Parrott would tell Elliott Sadler, when you go down to backstitch, you lift.

Because I don't want them to know what we're coming back with. I don't want them to know what they've got to run to beat us. Interesting. Wow. Yeah. You probably saw that. I did that qualifying on Wednesday. Did you?

Why, we qualified 28? Yeah, that's what it was. Thrott a little bit. I texted him. I'm sitting in the oyster, bro, watch you qualify, and I'm like, 28. I texted him, I said, I wouldn't plan on working this hard tomorrow. We used to sit in him qualify lines for 45 minutes on the Daytona at time. How many are in line?

18. You're not going to make it for lunch. It's like 10.30. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So spot on and spot off, bro. I'm spot on.

I don't, man, it's time's running out. I actually think it's easier for him now. than what it was. It's just the game of chance. It's the number of his fans. I know. It is. It is.

It's. I thought last night he had a shot before certain instances, but. I mean, Derek Cope, Trevor Bain, like there's a run of guys that you're like, man, they were pretty lucky. Now it's like everybody's lucky. Yeah. I hate to discount it, but. Moving on, William Byron deserves more respect after his Daytona 500 win. And he had six wins last year, so that says something.

I mean, I think you already have. I don't know. I don't know anybody disrespects William. I mean, and even on the plate races, I know, like, you read off, like, he's got a bunch of DNFs and then won, but he won. He won the July race, right, one year there? So, I mean, last year. It's just, I mean, like I said, it's just kind of whoever falls into place at the end of that last pits. We were literally right around there all night long for, whatever, 400.

Was Eric Jones had 480 miles. And in the last 20 miles of the race and all that matters. And it's just who cycles to what part of the. pack on the last green flag pit stop. And then so I mean, I'm not discrediting anything they did because he made moves at the end that I thought that were good, but it was, you know, that was

real funny, Freddy. That wasn't him. Yeah, I wasn't willing. But, yeah, I mean, I don't think there's anybody that doesn't have respect for William Byron. I can't imagine. Dude, put together like a two million piece Titanic Lego. He's got all my respect. Dude, I hate

Legos. You ever step on one? I don't have the patience. I don't have the whatever you got to have, skillset. Anybody that has a kid, I get them two things. Like, their kid. I bought them. Legos or drums? Like,

or something that makes, like some kind of instrument that makes a lot of noise. You might you should put Legos together. It might relax you a little. Maybe. Me and William texts about Legos all the time. So I am going to go with Spot Off because he's got the respect already.

Yeah. So I think he's there. I think it's cool that he came from online racing, you know? It's different. I mean, most of you guys... There's a good and bad side of that. How would you should? start racing eight nine how old nine nine i mean that's almost old nowadays man like these kids are

starting at five years old but um i think it's just a cool story and he's good good dude and i definitely don't think he's underrated i think he's those of us that understand racing have a lot of respect for william byron for sure but why is there good and the bad talk coming from i racing because you get some of these kids around i race and i think they can do the same thing and that is not the case you see you all see that picture going around the nine-year-old Yeah, I saw that. That's not, I'm not okay with that. That made me crazy.

There's a nine-year-old running a dirt late model. 602. 602, great-late model. Nine years old. Listen, I've said this to some of the guys, some of my buddies that, like, have kids. You're six years from driving on the street. At least. You know, it's, there's certain things.

We talked about this with Bodie and baseball, like, and some friends of mine that have kids that are getting in a racing. there's just certain you can't teach somebody that's nine years old. Like, you know what I mean? Like we could teach Bodie how to fail the ground ball, but I promise you now that he's 12 or 13, he feels does it completely different because, you know, at that point it's like,

all right, here, Bodie, we'll do 100 reps like this. Great, great, great, great, great. Hit him a ground ball. He's all over to the, like, you know what I mean? So it's like they just, like the kids like that, in my opinion, that age, like you can't teach him racecraft. You can't teach a crossover move to a nine-year-old. You know what I mean?

He might get lucky and hit one once in a while, but it's like it's just I don't think that kids can retain that kind of information and it's just it seems unsafe to me to put a kid that little in a in a in a race like that yeah did he rate I mean how do you I don't know I just saw a picture yeah and it's ridiculous they stand it besides the car I listen it happened to me it with Kraus when I went to soup like we went down to Samerna one year and I'm super late model racing with Herm and we were just like splitting the week at Samerna like we can I can make three or four days he can make three or four days so we were spot for Majeski and Kraus was like, you know, he was part of that team kind of. And they're like, hey, Herm's going to spot for Tidey and I, can you spot for this other kid? I'm like, yeah, sure, no problem. And like, when you say kid to me, I'm thinking he's like 16. I get on the radio and I'm like, you got me, but yeah, got you. I'm like, yo, what the, I said, how old is this kid?

And his dad was standing. He's like, oh, he's 11 or 12. I was like, I'm like a nervous wreck because I'm like, I don't know what to say to this kid. Like, I can't let him hit nothing. He's going to break in half. Like, I was like. And that's why we don't let you around the CB Industries. All that TV industry kids love me.

I think Derek still drives like, I might put that nine year up against Derek at times. Sorry, Derek, I'm just kidding. Spot on, spot off. The truck race at Daytona was an embarrassment of the series. Brett. Boy, yeah, I like what I got to say. You want to spot a truck. I'm telling it.

No, fuck a truck. I'm not spotting a truck race. Usually it's a fuck, now we're a fucking truck. I give these idiots a hard time all the time. Why don't you all spot for these no-driving? Brits! If we raced... He used to be one of those.

Listen. He didn't drive like a complete idiot all the time. Just most of them. If we raced the same way every weekend that we race this past weekend of Daytona, none of us would have jobs. Because it's a shit show. Like the appreciation for racecraft and taking care of your stuff and save it tires and It just, man, it was a disaster.

So it definitely was embarrassing. I think that, you know, it was awful. That was the sketchiest, like we wrecked on lap five or six, but that was the sketchiest start of a race I've ever been a part of. And I think what played a factor into that was guys had to make the race. I think they sent four or five trucks home. So you had guys up front with really trimmed out trucks from qualifying that probably didn't know what to do with them.

And now, like, they're going this way. That's right. They're impound. So, like, you know, there's a couple guys I saw that. were just, they're going in reverse as fast as we're going forward. And you had good guys at the back. Ecus was back there. Ty was back there.

Like, we have good trucks trying to move forward. At the same time, they're trying to go backwards. And I think that, I mean, it was as sketchy as it gets. And then, you know, we have the big one already. And then, listen, one of the guys. Corey the Joy, who I love to death, I don't know what he was doing all night long. All night. Like, like, his truck, I mean,

Listen, I was like, this guy's going to win the race. Like, I saw his truck how good it was. I'm like, oh, he's going to, bird without feathers again. He was, like, he would drive to the lead, then pulled in the middle and watch the whole top line go about him. Then he pulled, like, he was driving the top line. Somebody moved up. He'd move up with him. The whole middle line, go by him.

I'm like, what's he dead? He'd, like, the end of the race. The end of the race, he pushes Raj out, like 15 car lengths. The whole field drives by him. So then they get, luckily, they get a green white checkers before the, you know, they're still second and third. So they line up on the top lane and go. They were like, that works so good the last time. Let's do it again.

Let's try to get back out there. It's bad. It's bad when me and the wife are sitting on the couch and bus watching. And the first restart, she was like, what's he doing? It's Amanda. She said before I left the house this morning, she was like, don't say anything bad about me. Now this brings it back. So it ties all into those stories.

So Amanda's like, what is he doing? And then the second restart, I was like, all right, well, they won't do that again. She's like, what a f***? Same person who just asked, what's a triable? Damn. She's literally just found out what a travel one. She's going to kick your ass for that one. I'm like, what?

But like, you know how it is on the roof? Like, I had to do the Archer race. Of course, I haven't done an Arker race in 15 years it feels like. And the one I got to do is at midnight. But so now, like, the truck race is running. So we're all up there at the end. And like half of the field is gone. So just half the spotters are up there.

And like, you could just hear us. They're getting out. We're like, we're just looking at it. Where's he going? Why is he doing it again? And here comes the whole field trucking on by. I'm like, oh, my God, not again. But, yeah, that's, I mean, and then I'll let Bubba talk about his boy, Raja.

But, I mean, it was, it was just overaggression from the, from the get-go, like, literally, lap. Oh, it's terrible. It was just right out the gate. And it was just guys, it's, it's, it's, it's good. I mean, they're not bad drivers, but they're in really fast. Some guys are less experienced in really, really fast trucks. It legit looked like a C-fix race. I mean legit.

Random race, let's go. But like, so obviously, in my opinion, so I watched, and I, watching it live, the end of the race, I thought Corey pushed Raja into the 91. Then I've seen the replay, and I'm like, nope, that didn't happen. So then people start texting me, and they're like, I thought, well, I mean, why is like, Raja get along? And I'm like, I don't know what the hell you're talking about. So I just ignore it.

See the video. Like, in my opinion, you've been a mentor to Raja. Raja, listen, we're going to bust his balls here in a second. but he's a kid that every race that he's not in he's on the roof watching he's asking me questions lamber questions brett when he was up there tj he's asking questions about moves we're making why we're making him like he wants to learn i'm sure he's leaned on you many times for advice on certain race tracks but like what what was that interaction like uh not good speaking of roger he actually just text me when can we talk about alana so to your point he

he wants to learn his or grow his his notebook and learn as much as he can't but, you know, I was sitting in the bus, watching it, seen it live, and I was like, what the hell was that move? And so I put my shoes on and march out there to, you know, if your kid came up to me and was like, hey, help me out, okay, strap in. Because I'm a praise you. I told Roger this after the fact. I said, when you win your first race, I'll be the first one of Victory Lane. When you fuck up, I'm going to be the first one to go to your ass. And if you don't like it, cry about it. I don't care because that's what you get. So I went up to him and I'm like, what the hell was that? And he said, I got pushed into that. And like I said, I've seen it live and marched out of the bus.

So I was like, are you sure? He was like, bro, I promise you, I got pushed into that. And I'm like, okay. So that's when the camera cuts away. But then somebody else had a phone camera, I was like, okay, good job, proud of you, you know, tone it down a little bit. Like, remember, I told him before the race, I said, I said, hey man, it's going to be, you know, a lot of wrecks. Be patient.

Don't go up there and do anything stupid early because you got to learn. I said, do you go through all this data, all this stuff that we talked about in our meeting. Like, it doesn't make a damn if you don't finish a whole race because you have nothing to talk about. You have nothing to learn from. So I thought he did an excellent job. I was kind of like judging him because he was right around 15th, 20th, wherever he was. And not really in the picture. But, hey, he was doing what, I don't know if it was what I said, but he was just blogging.

lagging laps learning Biden's time missing their X, whatever. Great job. So then when he gets into that deal, it's like,

okay, I'm trying to put myself in his shoes. Oh, the top line's moving around me, top lines moving around me. There's half a hole. Bam, done. Like, what?

You got a mile and a half. I don't even know what the actual distance is from exit or turn two to start finish line. Mile and a half? Sure. About three runs still? Yeah.

It's like, bro. So he's like, I got pushing that. So I'm like, all right, good job. So I go back to the bus. I studied film like it was my own

I'm like pausing the TV pulling up my phone and I'm like bro you didn't get pushed what are you talking about he was like no I'm getting I got hooked by Corey I'm like Corey's not touching you he's like no the 11 not the seven and I'm like oh different Corey all right okay what are you talking about no one touched you and I'm like bro he finally came around and said I messed up and I said thank you

now pick up the phone and tell everybody else that because that's what he's got to do. And so, oh, so many people got, somebody that had the best tweet after that whole interaction. Bubba Wallace could get on Twitter and say, Boba Wallace and people will be mad at him. That's true.

Holy shit. I'm helping this kid out and I'm going to praise him when he does good and I'm going to go to him when he does bad. And so I'm doing what I thought was right. I don't give a shit what people say. But it's just so funny to see all that. and then it's like, oh yeah, I didn't make a mistake.

And I'm that. What I told him last year was I said, listen, you're, in my opinion, his rookie year looked like a mirror to years. Like really, really fast, a lot of speed, constant mistakes. And I'm like, man, if you could just put a race together, you're going to, I said, all you got to do is finishing the top five. And then, like, once you start finishing the top five, you're going to find a win. Like, it's just, they just find you. Like, you don't have to be the best truck all the time. you can find a good pit stop, whatever it is.

But if you, like, just keep putting yourself up there. But, like, it was just mistake after mistake last year. And hopefully this year, he's in obviously really good equipment. I think he'll win races. I think, you know, we'll all be really happy for him when he does. But he's just got to just figure out of get there. Just got to figure out of getting there. Yeah.

Matt Crafton won a championship by just finishing. Yeah. Without even winning. Well, he won a championship because we blew motor in Texas. So I don't want it by finishing, though. All right. I did tell Brad you push us into that wreck that one time, too. I was like, I don't know, I think Bubba hit you.

That's all right. That's okay. Let's hear some fans reactions with Reaction Theater. What's up, boys? It's tough. It's a pretty damn good race. Even though we're able to watch a computer nerd win. But Bubba almost can't do.

Got a strong finish. Can we just get a sponsor for Brett? So he can just go Facebook live so they can't watch these commercials and hoax. Go, Bubba. I think my man went through a whole bottle of, I think my man, I think that was an Omerti.

Yeah. Oh, man, that's a good one. Well, well, well. Congratulations to William Byron for winning the Daytona 499. Che is Brad Kesowky or William Byron driving that 44 car in the Archer race? That shit was ridiculous.

Trucks is a laughing stock. Arka is a laughing stock. And now the cup series might as well be allowed to stop. Damn. Who's the 44 in the argument? I think the 44 shoved a guy in three and four

one time. He's like, remember when it was what car spinning out the apron by himself? The 44 is the one and he did it. Middle of the corner.

Yeah, the race by then. That maybe. It was near the end. Who was spotting for a big Willie? One of his guys wasn't a cup guy. I don't know what.

That was a weird looking deal. Like he hit him and never ever slowed down. Oh, you've seen it coming from a mile away? Yeah, I don't. I said, babe,

watch my car. White car, white car, boom. Yeah. That's not a spotter air. Those windshields are see-through. And he chased him. I mean, it was weird. Yeah.

Anyways. Hendrick motor. Shut the fuck the fucking. Shut. Bras to William Byron and the boys. I hanged it. 40 years. Oh my God.

I am jumping for joy. Man, I'm going to tell you guys, I'm going to go grab me on a bear. Because let me tell you how I want to need beds. They tell the 500. I've watched in years. It literally put. Arka and Truck Series competition Too shame because

those two series, Arka and trucks, are a fucking joke. Natural Truck Series He's damn best. Did you want to five hundred are best? He was drinking the beer at that moment. Holy cow, he went through different accents, different octas. He builds Legos.

He's getting coloring books for Christmas. Well, I'm glad I didn't call him sick to work. because all it was was followed the leader bullshit for, you know, the first 180 laps or so. What a joke. Did they change the rules to where it's the last person to cross the finish line to win the race? Because when they show the replay on TV, it looks like Bowman is clearly ahead of Byron when the yellow flag comes down there. No, no. They changed their scoring, or what?

I don't know. I feel like they need an explanation on that, because the replay they show on TV shows Bowman ahead when the yellow flag. Brad, you call in? No, you can tell one, Brett. It just validates what I'm telling you. You can tell it. For the viewer. Yeah, for the viewer.

And listen, if the rule says when the lights illuminate, then the 48 won the race. Like, you know, because the light wasn't on. Like, I know what's happening here, but you need to, there can't be a delay if you want the rule to read that way. Remember Atlanta last year? That, remember that picture where it was us and Bella

crossed the line? And the one pitcher, it looked like he was clear. Then you go to the other angle. and they weren't front of them. Like, it's weird how stuff can be deceiving, though. I mean, it just shows that 80-20 where some people loved it. Some people just couldn't stand the race. I don't know.

I know the truck race was a struggle, but I still watch that series every week. I think it's so exciting. Oh, it's exciting. It's fun to watch. Taylor Gray, was he the one flying to the air? I'm sure he thought it was super exciting. Yeah, he landed on. You're on spaces when I was asking Todd about how many trucks.

Did you hear about that? Can you hear about that? Brad, he's talking about. He can't hear. Elmer Lee. T. Lee. Elmer. Elmer fun.

We get invited to do, like, during Sunday to promote the race office. We get on Twitter spaces. Yeah. And me and mom are on there. And then Todd Gill and Raja gets on there. Who else is on there? Garrett Smithley.

A bunch of us on there. And so Todd, oh, Harrison was on there. And so I asked Todd, I was, hey, is your dad got any truck races open? I'll go running. He was like, man, I don't know, he's been so busy. I didn't even ask them. He had five trucks in this race for the truck race. And I was like, yeah, Roger probably wrecked all five.

Taylor sent out a good video. I forget what movie it's from when it was like the guy's like, the thing freezes. And it's like, I bet you're wondering how we got in this position. And it was, it was his car. It was like literally flying upside down, down the back straight away. You know what sucks is the guy that gets flipped is usually just an innocent bystander. And he was. 100%.

Yep. He's the guy that's up in front gets clipped in their quarter. The guy I thought was coming out of there was going to win. I thought was Jack Wood. I thought Jack Wood had, like, he was in a good spot, and, like, he had nothing to do. Like, Daytona's the only place where wrecks happened forward. Like, you know what I mean? Like, they move forward. Like, you could be three rows ahead of the wreck and be in it.

You know what I mean? Like, so this guy clips this guy. He goes down. Like, that's not about last year. Yeah. All the way to the lead. All right, we have one more. I can't believe we waited, what, 48 hours for that wet part of? the finish from the biggest wet part of the winner. Has to wear a big hat to look like he has a personality.

It is where it is. I don't know what I expect at the end of the same. I don't want to hear y'all complain about that package anymore. Clearly, they know how to put on a show when they want to race, but I don't want to hear the whole episode about the Super Speedway package sucks

because when they want to race, they want to race. We saw it in the duels, and we saw it right before the big one and everybody decided to water it up. Coincidentally, the winner caused the big wreck that took out most everybody and then he sort of kind of caused the wreck that's one in the race. So, you know, great. The reason why the package sucks

is because we always want a race and we can't. It's not because we're just wanting to sit back and not ride. We want a race. He says the guy said, you've seen it in the duels they can do it. We were doing the same shi-dules as we were in a race. Yeah. Same in fuel. Same in fuel total.

That's 20 laps. That was the first test session for it. We run five duels at the day doing it now. The package is great for the last 20 last. Yeah, no doubt about it. Is Austin Hill that good or is that car that fast? Holy shit, both. But he just makes all the right moves.

But not only that, nobody blocks them. No one blocks them. Just let this son of, keep having to lead. You know what, this guy's the best? Go ahead and lead, Austin. We'll try to get around you. Has he seen the checkered flag in a green condition yet, though? I mean, he's been running the exfitting.

It's not. He's outsmarted everybody in that Xfini field. He knows if he's leading at the right. I mean, he's been running the Xfinney series since Fireball Robbers. And by the way, his car is a missile. It is a missile. And he knows that, dude, when you got Sage Karam and the other group behind you racing, you know they're going to wreck each other trying to get to you.

I think that I was watching. I got home to my house with probably like 12 to go. And I watched them last couple restarts. And like when they get that run into one and Creed lines up behind Austin, Petrie is 100% on. board with Creed's going to rent because the first thing he goes he goes Sheldon Creed's really hungry for a win like he's just he knows like he's like he knows it's coming and they all wreck and he loses whatever but yeah I was like I seen a lot of people tweeting and I think you might have said something about

bias in the booth like people were talking about like just just pretty outright like cheering for one team or or being hard on certain drivers that maybe made moves that weren't that bad but got picked on for being like I seen Mikey said one time he's like I forget it. It was AJ just drove Sage Karam straight through Custer at the end. And Mike, he's like, that's a terrible push by Sage Karam. I mean, he's getting pushed from behind, but that's a terrible push. I'm like, well, it can't be both.

Like, if he's getting pushed from behind, it's not him. Like, he didn't do anything wrong. So, but yeah, I didn't see. It was a terrible push by Kyle on that duel. I'm telling you. I don't know what he's doing. What was he thinking? Yeah.

All right. Well, to leave an audio message. whenever you'd like call our new number 704802-9572 and we will keep picking the best ones each week moving on to hashtag ask dbc don't forget to use that hashtag whenever you'd like to ask us a question and we'll keep putting one on the show sheet so these guys can answer them this first question is from james and i'm assuming bubba this is more for you um has mj's involvement with 23-11 changed since his sale of the Hornets? Yes, and it's growing rapidly.

Because of the sale, he has more time. He wants to be at more races. You often ask him before, hey, you come to any races? He's like, I'll see what the basketball schedule. Well, that's not the case anymore. So I'm not sure what his next one is, I think. I don't know if he's coming to Atlanta. He may.

Was he there yesterday? No, he had to go back home. But he came in Thursday for the Dules. And so, yeah, he's definitely involved. He's been on a couple of our team meetings. But Curtis, his right-hand man, who basically runs our ship over there, he's involved each and every phone call. New shop.

Tell me about that new shot, man. We don't have a shop. Oh, he's right. It's not the S word. It's called Airspeed. Oh, yeah, airspeed. Airspeed. Yeah.

Airspeed is the name of the building. The building. No S-words. It's a fine. It's a fine. Wow. Yeah. So when you hear me that,

Jay, Jay, listen up closely. If you hear me say the 2311 shop, we're cutting it out of the show. It has to be cut out. Airspeed. Airspeed. Okay.

And it is, it is nice. It is nice. Money. Well, the cool thing is, the cool thing is, it's close to Charlotte.

It's right there on the interstate. So fans, when they come to Charlotte, like, they're going to be able to check it out. Yeah, for sure. I mean, everybody has talked about it.

You see it right there from 77, so did a great job with it. They're still putting last minute tweaks on things. So a couple more, I'd say a couple months it'll be fully done. So I don't know when they're going to open in public, though. It might be a while for that. Yeah. Yeah, it's good.

Next question is from Matt. How do you feel about the next-gen-gen-style drafting and which package or car do you prefer pack racing in? I don't mind the next-gen-style drafting. I feel more confident with this car. and pushing and stuff. Pushing was never a big pseudomon. Like I mentioned earlier, like I still try to be methodical throughout the race,

of just pushing on the straightways and when the timing's right. As to where I was still trying to figure out which way it was up, down, left, and right in the previous car. So I'm good with the next gen, style. I prefer it to everyone. But I wasn't sitting in the seat. I felt like, I feel like this car, the last car rewarded aggression. Like, if you were aggressive, you could, you could. you could make shit up in and get to the front.

This car almost rewards patience. Like, you know, in years past, we, you know, we would jump up in front of every lane and try to get pushed to the front or, you know, like make certain moves at the top and try to get a third lane going. Didn't stop her off. Yesterday, you know, like we gained all our spots

by just not moving. Like guys kept moving, like in the last two laps, whatever it was, a couple guys got out of our way and we just filled a hole in the middle and probably gained seven or eight spots at the end of the race. You have no idea how hard that was. Oh, I know. Because you were like, top lines coming, top line's coming.

And you're like, I'm like, no. And then three cars pass you and you're like, God, don't. Yeah. But you know, there was two things that came to my mind there was, you know, for one, you know, there was guys up there already. So we were going to be the fourth or fifth car in the top line. And we're not winning the race from that. You know, that's not happening.

No. I look, the middle's open. The 20 is the only one in the middle. So now you're the second car in the middle. and who knows, you know, if you can get to him and we get a little bit out. But the thing that played in my mind, the biggest was Talladega last year.

We were trying, like, we needed points. So we were trying to make shit happen. And every time we went, Danny was behind us. Danny was like last. And we were behind, he was behind us. And we were trying, like, every time Elaine would come, we'd get to the top.

We'd lose like four or five spots. Go back. And we ended up at the back. And then Danny finished like third or fourth. And I'm like, that top line. Unless it's like clear as day going somewhere with everybody up there. And even then, like everybody was up there.

we still made the middle work better than them. So like when everybody's all out, the third line just can't maintain. It's not possible. I honestly feel like if you got to be careful what you wish for here, because if we don't, the fuel thing puts strategy into it and it actually gives you cumbers and goers because you can knife your way to the front a little bit. If everybody goes 100%, we're going to have a wreck early.

There's going to be mistakes and there's going to be 15 cars or less running at the end of that thing. And then people are going to complain, well, this wasn't even a good race. There was only 10 cars running at the end of the race. I mean, and listen, we, at no time have we ever run 100% the entire Daytona 500. You know, we would, sometimes we would get single file against the wall and ride for a whole stage or something. But at least it was in everybody's hands at that point. This is like, you have to save fuel. You have to do it.

Like, and I don't know why it wasn't that case before unless we just weren't smarter to figure it out then. But, you know, it just, this is in a box now. First of all, we're not changing tires really ever. I mean, there's no, there's no tireware. Like, I don't know how we didn't get a flat. at the end of the first stage when you come smoking down pit road. Oh, I saw him. You had them lit up.

Both of them. I was like, I was like, I mean, there was a long ways. And I was like, we locked them out, booty. I don't know if it was on one or two, but I was like, locked up bad, locked up bad. And booty's like, fuel only. I'm like, okay, I guess we just. I felt a slight vibration. Because it wasn't that many laps.

It was only like five laps. Yeah. In the big wreck, though, that's so weird that you say that. Because when I told you to hit it in practice, it's an absolute max, I hit the brakes and I'm like, oh, yeah, we're, we're slowing down. We're going to make this. And I think I locked up right there at the end

just to make sure. I thought you were speeding. In practice? No. Oh, whoa. So what I'm getting at is so when we called it in the race, I knew to back it up a little bit.

I hit the brakes and I'm like, am I slowing down? Oh, shit. There comes a line. Okay, sure. Well, then in the big wreck, like I said, I try to praise, like I'm aware and everything.

We were 10 car links back, five car links back. I was fucking you so bad on this. Five car. feelings back, seeing the wreck happen, hit the brakes, and I'm like, oh, I got it missed. Boom! Never knew I was locked up until I hit AJ. Oh, you didn't know. I had no idea, because you couldn't feel it.

So that's something to talk about if it's set up or something we can do with the brakes, but hit the brakes. And I'm like, I'm missing this for sure. Picked up speed. Yeah, you had them, they were lit up. I was going to say, as Joel would say, you were there smoking like a busted chainsaw. Bastian asked What is the most frustrated You have been with Freddie on

Or off the track Oh I skipped a question Well she was going to skip it But I said he said he said he wasn't going to fire me He never said he wasn't mad at me We talked about it a little bit She was going to skip it I know when the I know when he was the most mad at me

When was it over in the casino Oh This What did you do you Oh my God. So this is where Freddie drunk came from. You know Freddie drunk. You know Freddie drunk?

I haven't. I don't know if I win this. Freddie and the casino at Dover as well. No, I'm saying like hashtag Freddie drunk. Yeah. Like when you're that drunk, you're Freddie drunk. Yes, Chili Wolf. So we come up.

It's pretty much every night. Come on. Every, every outing. I'll say every outing. Anyways. We're at the casino. This was when? We were in the cup car?

I don't even know. No, I think we're extended. Probably. I think we're in Cincinnati before I got kicked out. Anyways, and we're sitting there playing blackjack me, Hemrick, I think, Kinsey. I don't know. We're all sitting there. It rained, I think.

It rained, I think. I think that's the day we went to a Mexican place with Clint, and I was drinking margaritas for some idiotic reason all day. There's going to rain the next day. Early. I think it was supposed to rain all weekend. Here's Freddie. I wish I had some liquid in this.

Here's Freddy. All over me. Spills his whole drink on you. And he's just like, ha ha. That's the best part about Freddie drunk. And then he started picking. He's like, ah, ah. Oh, I was so mad.

I mean, I'm just wearing vodka tonic. So do, soda, that's okay. I was trying to get a stain on your shoulder. I was trying to get out of there. I was trying to, I saw it like something. All that is burned into me, etched in me as a Freddie drunk. What about in the car? in the car, man.

Right. I would have to say be a speedway race. Yeah, I'm sure. I mean, like, every once in a while, missing a rock or missing a run or something like that. Other than that, there's nothing that you could,

you drove me into a wreck or, I don't know, no. I think it's just been a speedway race, but I can't get that personality. You can't really get mad at him, you know. Listen, we can try. You can try. Some people will have a hard time,

I promise you. Megan, Megan's perfected getting mad of me. I promise you that. Where were we at? Syed's? She was just sitting in the car? That's not the first or last time. That's going to happen. She said in the car waiting for you? I think she had had enough of Freddie drunk that night. So Clint and Laura, they acted a lot like Freddie and Megan. And then it got to the point to where Laura just left Clint wherever he was. I mean, it didn't matter where we were.

It'd be like, where'd Laura go? Well, she went home. It's like, well, that's 45 minutes from here. How are we going to get a f*** ass on? But it's good. That day's coming for him. Like, it's going to start coming where she just flat out leaves him. Any day. All right.

Let's just quickly answer Amanda's question. How often do you listen to DVC and actions detrimental? Never. Never. I don't listen to podcasts at all. She does. No podcast. Amanda's a fan.

No podcast at all. What are you knew? You didn't. You were on it. weird. Oh, easy. Just talking to you. Just talking to you. I want people screaming at a little helpful

promotion here. Oh, y'all do a great job, I'm sure. Don't tell people not to listen to podcast, no, no, no, no, no. Listen. Personal preference. Well, I don't need to go back and listen. I've heard everything we said today.

But, like, if there's clips where I'm like, What an Idiot Award, I'll go back and find a clip. That's the only time I listen. That's the perfect segue. What an idiot. There you go. What an idiot.

And listen, Amanda listens all the time. God. Every once in a while. I knew that was the reason I liked her. She'll be yelling to me about something I said on here or something. Who's your one idiot? Bubba, do you have one? I got a list.

Yeah, there's a Roger list here. Roger Ruth. He called him out. Oh, straight to it. He's probably told him three or four times since then. You should have heard him in that Twitter space. Just, I mean, it was relentless. No, I was going out.

Going at it. Who else? Raja's going to have to, he's going to have to rebrand after this week. I'll tell you, one of my favorite ones of the week. I don't know if it's going to be my favorite ones of the week. official one idiot but one of my favorite ones was Austin Hill in the Exfinity race. Did you see him come down at pit road in third gear?

Oh yeah. Running a little round hour. Hey, I can't talk. I know you can't say shit. I did that at Martinsville. At least it wasn't a, that was a 35 mile out of pit road.

This one was a 60 where you're running. I mean, when he hits that line and just drives away from everybody, I was glad. I seen a replay. I was laugh. We did Dover in second gear when you were with Dale Jr.

I think that's back when they were running first gear there. And we were. That's back with Fireball Roberts. Bubba touch on. My one idiot was almost Bubba. because we were short on fuel and I'm like, man, just get back here and just ride around the back. Don't get near this wreck. All right.

And here we are. Sorry, I'm like, you son of a bit. As the brakes are locked up, I'm like, if he hits something, I'm going to kill him. Oh, yeah. Oh, I hit that.

That is the worst. It's even better now. You made it better. Thanks next. That's the worst. Because at the spotter you're like, oh, yeah, we're going to be back a little bit. We're going to, we know they're going to miss it. Then you look up there and your guys are taking this big run into the pack.

You're like, no. The one thing that's the thing that's screwed me up, was I had just John Hunter was like not leaving our bumper. And I'm like, no, I got to go tell him. So I went down and I went to flanchet. I'm like, yeah, we're short on fuel. We're going to run a couple more laps.

Go around me. Don't be behind me because I didn't want him behind us if they did wreck. Like, you don't want anybody on your bumper. So of course, I'm going down. He's like three people down from me. He's like, go down and I tell him, get off my bumper. Like, so then he does. Thank God.

And as I'm getting back there, they're piling. I'm like, ah, I try out, sure. Yeah. When he was, they were getting ready to wreck earlier on, too. And we're back there. I told Blancher till I'm like, look, the dangerous spots are end of the backstretch, awful four there when they're coming right at you, and right into one there when things kind of get tight sometimes.

And I'm like, don't, when you're, it's hard when you're riding around the back because you got to watch your car and you got to watch this going on up here. And if you've got a guy right on you, you don't want that when you're back there. So you're like, you try to prevent things back there. Dare I ask, Brett. Whoever within the Ford Motor Company camp has decided to not have any branding on the front of the cars. That's stupid. Like you can't see

Blue Oval? No. They don't have. The only thing they have is the dark horse but it's the same color of the grill so it's like tone on tone

you can't see it. But my one of an idiot is a guy that over the winter and I love tattoos I have several. The guy that got the number seven tattooed on his ass. Freddie Kraft.

That's my what an idiot. What? I didn't know that. It's because I'm going to go spot for Corey next year. I didn't want to say. It's fire. You didn't know he got a number seven

tattooed on his ass? Listen. It looks like a really small seven because he's got a big ass. But nonetheless, it is the number seven. So here's what happened with that deal. So we're in Key West. It's me, Megan. It's me, Megan, Dugger and Tara.

And Dugger's got this great. He's like, let's all go get tattoos. I may have seen. And I'm like, you've seen. That's right. And I was like, all right, I don't have any tattoos. I'm like, I don't care. Dugger get one?

So we were going to get, we're all going to get one. And we were on our way to Freddie drunk at this point. And so we go in there, and I always wanted to get a Billy Joel lyrics. I was like, I'll get that. It can't take too long. Which one were you? I'd rather laugh with the sinners than cry with the saints. And that's not going to take too long?

It's Billy Joel, the preacher? No, that's the Billy Baldwin. That's Joel O's the game. That's what he... Were you going to get it on a cheek or you're lower... No, I was going to get it on my back. Oh, you're going to get a lower back? Yeah, like a train.

stamp. So we go in there and the guy's like, I said, how long I could take? He's like, I probably an hour. I'm like, well, I'm not laying here for an hour. Like, that's not. So then Megan was getting his little hedgehog because our dog loves hedgehog toys or whatever.

So she's getting after the dog. And I'm like, I'm not laying here for an hour. I was like, put a seven on my ass. Like, because it was our seventh anniversary of the day. So this year, so we're going away this year with Doug. I said, I'm going to get another tattoo. I'm just going to cross this. I'm going to make the seven into an eight.

Like, you know, like he's just like disconnected somehow. You should have like a little Roman. Just kept adding numerals. Should we go back to the One Idiot segment? This sounds like a Dugger. That was Dugger's idea. So, yeah, so then when they said all he said, Dugger was going to get the, what do you call it, like the Bowie, the Key West, the southernmost point thing.

He wanted to get that. And they were like, that's going to take a couple hours. And so we're like, you know what? We're out. Well, that was his plan. You're an idiot. Dugger's going to go to get that. Oh, but it's going to take a long.

Go ahead and get yours, Freddie. Listen, it scares. Like, it doesn't scare me. But I'll be walking. I'm like, what the fuck is on my. Oh, never mind. I got a tattoo back there now. You stuff to wear, no, you should be good now.

No, I was like, I was like, just the tattoo being there. I was like, I'm like, whoa, what is this? That's like, that's like, I think of my tattoos. I forget that I have tattoos. I think of the one on my shoulder. But then they're like, didn't you get a rich of petty? I'm like, oh, I did. Yeah.

On my, not on my ass. Did you have, who's your one idiot? I mean, I can't believe we haven't covered it yet. I know, like, I figured you're going to get to this. I have that one on my list, but I'm going to let you go on arc erasing again? No, this is mine was. mine was truck racing. We looked at each other

and said that guy won the one of the idiot award during when it happened. I mean, I don't know how we, I got to give it to the, the bad teammate. I was going to go there,

yeah. I was not going to call him an idiot. I was going to call him an idiot. I was going to call him an idiot. Oh. Like, how do you do that? I mean,

I, we're, the reason, I mean, the reason I'm involved in this is because my guy was starting forth behind the guy on the outside and we always assumed

that like, that guy's ducking down. So we're going to bet there by ourselves. So you're looking out back for some help, right? I mean, you got to get linked up with someone back there or whatever. And I mean, if I don't know in the 20 was going to be pinned up there, it just would have pushed him. Yeah. And listen, what we're talking about is Vennerini Motorsports, who, they've had a history. They've won six or seven arc races in a row. I don't think they won last year.

But this is how they do it. They have a green white chair. Every arc race has a green white check restart, I think. And they have a teammate restart. The two of them get hooked up and then nobody can touch them. And the last three Archer races I spotted were at Speedways for Billy Benarini. I think two of them were Drew Dollar and I forget who the other one was. Sorry. And we were the ones that were allowing the teammate restart. And that's, that's a hundred percent decision. Like Billy obviously would like that because that's his team and he wants his team to win no matter what. But it's up to the driver. And my point, like I tweeted that I thought it was a B. And I still think it's a B. Move. Not that Gus wanted to race. I know Gus had a lot

things race for us. Grandfather just passed away. He wanted to win the race. If you want to win the race, that's fine. Race. But when they say, hey, you know, let us in. And you're going to let us in and you say yes, that's like if you want to get and they ask you and go, hey, you want to let the 20 in? No, I want to race. I'm going to get, I'm going to let the 73 push me, let's go heads up and see who wins.

I'm 1,000% fine with that. We talked about that yesterday. That's what we were going to do. If it wasn't, you know, even, I don't, like, that's how you're supposed to do it. I would never expect Bubba, like if I go, if Tyler comes to me and goes, I wouldn't even ask Bubba the question. I got to be, Tyler, go, hey, you want to let us in? I'd be like, no, like, we're not doing that.

We're going to race. But like, don't, you. can't say, yeah, I'm going to let you in. And then on top of that, not at top of not letting him in, you jump the restart. Like, Gus fires first. Like, that's what, like Jake. And it changes your whole mindset if you're Jake, because Jake, for one, did a phenomenal job.

He, he, he, um, has come a long way. He's, he's kind of a little bit of rambunctious. Um, but he's, he's fast. He's talented. He makes mistakes sometimes. But I thought he did a really smart race. He did. And when you, and you put that guy in that position to where he's expecting you to let

him down, he's not expecting to have to have. have the best jump. He knows what's getting ready to happen. I just got to get rolling here. This guy's going to drag. Let me down. Then we're going to get hooked up and go. Now you're behind. And now all of a sudden, like he's sitting there and all of a sudden he sees the guy next him with fire first. And that's like, oh, in panic mode. Like you're, and then he goes down. I don't, they didn't make it a lap before he got wrecked, right? I mean, no, no, we didn't make a lot. I just thought that was, I thought that was. It's definitely. It reminded me of of, um, India a handful years ago at the big track whenever, um, Kyle and Martin were on the front row.

and um oh yeah kyle martin kept letting i think martin kept letting kyle down or something whatever like Kyle was the benefactor then it was their turn no yeah they're like no and then you go when they pop into our view and the one they're both sliding to the outside wall wrecking yeah that's when adam stevens got got his ass whooped yeah that was okay tough guy okay cowboy he uh i thought you're i thought you're going to ben roads because we talked about that ben ben ben ben ben tried to do old um hit a tire going middle yeah i know i know but that's why you that's why you don't risk doing that move like i get it it works sometimes but the time it doesn't work now you've opened yourself up to be called

what an idiot because like he would you watch it like he splits the middle tries everybody's line up and then and then blend in to get the lucky dog but that it'd be great what if gus go about it for a second what if gus said i'm gonna let him down he had four minutes three to four minutes to change his mind what if he changed his mind i said so i think it's communicating that Yeah, like, I don't, like, it's, I don't think, I think he changed his mind before he answered that question. I think he knew the whole time. Heck, yeah, he knew. I'm not.

Yeah, he said, he said, I didn't have it in my heart to do that. I, I know, listen, I get it. He wants to win a race. His grandfather passed away. So it was a mental tactic is what it was. Yeah. I think it was just, this is my, this is my easiest path to win this race. I don't think he, I don't think he was going to beat the 20 straight up right there.

No, not the only way he was going to get it, get it was to do that. and he basically just took his lunch. Took his lunch money. The problem with the Archer race is that like in Cup racing, we talked about yesterday, like if it's a green-white checker, you're probably splitting the lines, locking out the front row,

and then you can control everything from there. The Arker race, the bottom line has such an advantage because I feel like every time the front two or three guys get going, but from third on back or fourth on back starts filling in holes and the top lane falls apart really quickly,

especially on restart like that. So, you know, if you stick that guy up there and just race side by side with him into one, the chances are he's going to fade and you're going to be in control. And I think he knew he wasn't going to beat him and that was his only shot. So I can watch that, you know how watching out of turn four, Brett, when they're coming at you. You can tell the cup drivers. These guys are really good.

They're in line. There's not any really. Except Bubba, he's a little faded left. Yeah. A little left. But they know what they're doing. Dude, in that Arka race, when they come out of four and they're side by side, there is. It looked like you took like.

Sidewinder. Dude, it was, yeah, it was. It's scary. Like these guys and then and then they all think they can side draft and do all that stuff and they can't. And it's really scary. Yep. All right. Let's move on to DBC picks for Atlanta.

Atlanta. Atlanta. At Atlanta. At Atlanta. Okay. Bubba, you're not allowed to show anywhere. Good. We need like a sheet.

Yeah. There's no sheet. Yeah. Who picks first me? Just go for it. I don't know. Where's the finish? We're just going to roll.

It had to be me. We need the finish. Who'd you have? Justin Haley was, he had a... Fire wrecked, it takes three seconds, look at the finish. Yeah. I'll go first. Okay, just go first.

Whatever you want to do. Let's do all the things you want to win this weekend, Bubba. Yeah. Well, we're not renting because Bubba put 14 jinxes on his early in shows. Oh, wait. Am I allowed? Freddie, you're last. Oh, wait.

You pick first with Stenhouse, then Brett with Haley, then I go, and then T.J. So Friday, you go first. Corey the Joy. I'll take Ricky Stenhouse. Who did you take, Freddie? Corey. I will. I'm not picking.

No, you know. You pick at the end. Pick who you think is going to win. Can't pick yourself. I'll take Justin Haley. I'll take, we'll take Briscoe. You're using up some good picks early in here.

Am I? Really? Is he? I mean. Bubba. A lot of unknowns. With two questions. What can fans expect in Atlanta?

Is it similar to a Daytona with all the wrecks? Oh, I got to give you shit, man. I forgot about it. I don't know. I'll answer these questions. And then who's your pick to win? I'm going to go since my picks don't matter. I'll go chase.

I'll go to the nine car. Okay. And then what can we expect? Yes. Atlanta's treacherous, man. I'm going to be interesting to see how much it's weathered from the fall to now. because just from year one to year two wait was year one last year no no no that's right next gen was the same year yeah okay so this is year three like it changed so much like qualifying

bro fingers fingers crossed like sketch yes yeah super sketchy super rough the race is pretty you're hip hitting bumps and like we i would love 20 minutes breakfast remember when i think it's going to get to the point where it's going to get so weathered and we're not going to know until the first car goes on the race track. Well, we get we get we get a little practice. Yeah, kind of. We get we get pit road practice. You just have to haul ass for a laugh. Oh, yeah.

So no practice straight into qualifying. Straight in the qualifying. Pit road practice and then remember the start of the Sydney race? Everybody went to three and about right? This no practice is a dumb shtover, by the way. Tell us how you really feel. I just didn't. Bubba just agree with me, which means I'm right.

Since Brett retired from spotting. I know, yeah. I think it's stupid. It is. I think we need to, like, you have. have these cars that have issues in qualifying and announcers get on there and say, well, wouldn't have this issue if there's qualifying. Practice.

Yeah. The announcer's right. Like, yeah, like you show up and you look like. I remember last year with Travis? Travis had never made a launch. He can't, like, his first, they're trying to go parking lots around here, trying to figure out a place where he can practice launching off the road because that was going to be the difference in whether or not he made the Daytona 500.

Like, if he has 20 minutes of practice, he can just sit there and do that for the whole 20 minutes but like it's just I don't know whatever yeah there's a few things like I mean even you want to go group qualifying for ARCA that's oh my god just dumb as just line them up and qualify them please the play and the way they do it is my favorite

like draw out of a hat for groups so you could just end up with obviously ARCA's got some guys in there that probably don't belong in there so you put like one venerini car with like all the Wayne Peterson cars and they're like five seconds off yeah not a lot yeah you ought to see the commotion on the

roof for Raker qualified. It is a madhouse. People are trying to make plans. I was like, just go out there. Here's the plan. This guy's going to leap fraud this guy. He's going to push you. You're going to let him go around the outside. Then you're going to get in front of him. And then we're all going to be 10 crawling apart and not make the race. Yeah. Which tracks you got circled this year. That's one you're going to win.

Vegas, Kansas. Basically, Jimmy Johnson's schedule. There's a reason why Jimmy Johnson came over to Toyota and then made his schedule all mile and a halfs. Toyota So a mile and a halfs look really four years. to. Honestly, we were talking, we made such a big leap last year. The only track that I can say

is a weakness right now. Sonoma? Chicago. Sonoma. Like, it's still the road courses, but you can't say anything bad about Chicago on here. That's true. But, man, Richmond was a place where I usually struggled. We went up in lead laps and our finish didn't really show how good we were. Texas, I pulled booty aside. After we made the playoffs, I said Texas is going to kick our ass. Qualifying pole, lead a bunch of laps, choke on the finish. That car was good at Texas. Yeah, stupid, good.

So I'm looking forward to a lot of races this year, be honest with you. How much are you leaning on Redick? How much? He's little. Yeah, you've got to be careful. You know, Reddick's fast everywhere, and so you try to just have that mentality of, of just basically send it, right? But I think you have to be methodical with that.

And I think if I've been really saying a lot about 2014 Bubba, like I'm trying to bring that back because that was all confidence there, you know, running with the best of the best, beating the best of the best. And I feel like Reddick has that. And it's like, all right, well, let's see. Let's bring that confidence back because at the end of the year, we were running right there with him, you know?

So I knew Amanda asked me, how's Reddick going to be? when he came over, I was like, kids going to kick my ass, he's fast. So it made me step up and deliver more. But now I feel like, you know, I'm kind of, you know, we're both helping each other climb the ladder, if you will. So it should be a good year for both of us. I'm excited.

So year, this is 15, year 15 for us, starting year 15. This, in my opinion, maybe since, I don't remember this in 2014, this is the best mindset I've seen you come into a season with. You agree with that? 100%. I mean, and what, is that just confidence? confidence coming off of last year, you think? Yeah.

Confidence coming off last year. And, you know, for the last three years, I've been racing to prove you wrong, prove you wrong, prove you wrong, prove people over here wrong. Go out and race because you know how to race and win races and go have fun with it, right? You know, I got caught up in all the BS that came my way and, you know, whatever. But it's like, let's get back to how it was, right? And, you know, I came up from 2014 was my last solid year of competition. I remember.

Yeah. Because then I went through, went through hell at Roush. And then the year we ended up doing really good. Peace out. You're out. You know, we're fourth in the points or whatever. And then obviously struggle with the 43. Had glimpses of hope every once in a while.

But then 23 came about and we had a new life brought into you, but I was still carrying over the mindset of I got to. to prove everybody wrong instead of, hey, man, you are good and you're here for a reason. Go out and find that and go have fun with that. You wear your feelings on your sleeve. I love that about you because not all the guys do, you know. But, man, you deserve this. Yeah, thanks.

And that's the thing that you don't need to struggle with it. Yeah, for sure. And I think, I think, like, even like being at the shop now, like, instead of just, even after a bad race, like last night I was super pissed. I was super frustrated and I found myself like I don't know how it came across in interviews but I was laughing and tried to put on a persona but obviously still pissed but kind of managing your emotions in a better way right but then like even going to the shop here in a minute for our meetings is yeah cut that yeah please cut that just beep out shop don't yeah yeah yeah you're like

what's that going to airspeed to have our debriefs like I have a shit time of questions that I want to figure out on like if we went back to Daytona tomorrow like okay I'm invested in this how do we make both of our cars better and to not show up the way we did and not have the same finish well thank you Bubba for joining us I cannot wait to see that money line teal paint scheme on track this week money teal I can't I can't I'm not going to miss it so you'll miss it don't forget everyone who's listening be sure to subscribe to our new door bumper clear YouTube channel I hear there's going to be a competition between us and Denny's podcast.

So I don't know, Bubba, maybe you just tell people to subscribe to ours over Denny's would be a great subject. That's fine. Do that. That's easy. That's easy. Either way, thank you, Bubba. Thank you all for joining us and have your week. Check out Dirty Mo Media, Twitter, Facebook, TikTok, and Instagram.