Door Bumper Clear - 319 | Suarez's Big Win, Best NASCAR Finishes, and Hot Seat Drivers

Episode Date: February 26, 2024

Daniel Suarez wins a photo finish at Atlanta; was this the best Next Gen race so far? The guys talk the emergence of Front Row Motorsports, SHR's struggles, and a roof blowing off in the Trucks race. Plus, the reaction theatre phone line never stopped ringing - delivering some of the best calls we've heard.FanDuel Disclaimer: Must be 21+ and present in select states. Gambling Problem? Call 1-800-GAMBLER or visit Fan.Duel.com/RG Want more DBC? Check out and subscribe to the new DBC YouTube channel! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

The following is a production of Dirtymoe Media. Still good. By one. So on number drive, man. It will come to you. Fall asleep on the eight outback. Team cover in top here. Keep coming in a cup.

A bottom three. Got a three way. Go, go, go, go, go. Door, bumper, clear. Still there, bumper, bumper, clear, clear. Well, hello, everyone, and welcome to door bumper clear. My name is Casey Boat, your official babysitter of these three. How many times you think you can say the word babysitter in a season?

You want to keep going? Well, yeah, I mean, because every time you introduce yourself, you announce yourself as our baby-surer. If you were a babysitter, can we come up with a different word maybe? Please, by all me. If she was a babysitter, she would have a very low rating like children and we will be okay. You would not hire Casey case against. She would never show up. She wouldn't get to babysit long because the mom would fire her because she leaves such a mess behind. And she doesn't show up.

I'm T. She would be late. She'd be late. run around house. Don't mess with me. My hormones are a mess. Tell me what that means. Yeah, what does that mean? Don't mess with me. Just don't. No, when your hormones are a mess, what does that mean? Like, it means F around and find out. Does that mean how hot flashes or? No, that's, I think that's menopause. Are you hungry? Oh. I am very hungry. All I want is olive garden and chlorant

charitos and pop-edonged pizza. I don't know why. Soup selling and breadsticks sounds so good right now. There's one right down the road. I know. I know. Anyways, who we got here in the studio? I'm T.J. I already did that. You still T.J.? I just already did that. Oh, you did that? Who are you?

Brett Griffin. Spotter for Richard Childress Racing this year. I think my first race is in a big state. Freddie, what's up? Hey, how are you? This new intro deal goes really well. You guys are really neat. You guys are doing it the same way.

Let's flip it up and see what we don't know what the hell we're doing. What's up? I'm still Freddie Crave. I still spot for Bubba Wallace, Kyle Seig, and Ty Dillon this weekend. Did you get to spot the Exfinally race this week? I did. We actually, we had Kyle Seag. It was a.

Did you make it up fuel? Kyle, no. I ran out the same lab as every other Ford. We had, I don't know. There was, Kyle had a long night. Poor Kyle. He called me after the race, and he was, he had himself an interesting night. Did he have a day?

He had a day, yeah. I know he's Ryan C's brother, right? Yes. Are they teammates? Yes. Yeah. everything and it sounds to me like they do a lot of the work Ryan and Kyle on the cars you know it's kind of a I don't it's the four car team right now this year so they have a lot

of stuff going on and you know they they as it as any four car team is you need to have the right people in place and I'm sure they're working on getting it but you know they're they're they're they're have some growing games right now notice or no not yet does Joel still spot for them because I saw he was in no Joel Joel flew in I Joel had the truck race only so he he's in and my favorite part would you see Jeff Green and and Jeff Burton picking on them on Twitter because Joel just doesn't obviously Joel is a very big fan of NASCAR and everything that has to do with NASCAR and never says anything bad about him and then he's he's not still he's retired but he's been at every race so far as he's been retiring he's been

retiring for like six years man like I thought the one more year was last year now it's like half year I mean we're down to half we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're I think he's doing everything Riley Herp runs. Okay. So we got to get him in here Monday after one of the plate races, Super Speedway races. Yeah, that would be good.

Maybe it should be the last one just in case. Yeah, we have to have, I mean, he's the most popular guest I think we've ever had on here. So he was. A hundred percent. He's definitely. He had a lot of quotes. I think he was a top five most listened to show last year, wasn't he? Yeah.

Oh, yeah. He was third or fourth, I think. Yeah. Wow. Jesse Love was up there, too. The guy that was the most pop, poor Jesse. love. We'll get to that, I'm sure. But the most popular show from last year, that guy did not have a good weekend. He's not had a good year so far. He had, he might want a haircut. He got a flat

immediate, like he might have had more fun in Atlanta last year sitting in the hall or than he had this year because he got a flat early, no, Josh Williams. He got a flat early in the Xfinity races, a bunch of laps down. Then I think he crashed in the cup race too. Oh yeah, he did. He crashed. So God. Just, yeah. Poor guy. Well, third closest finish in NASCAR history and Army go Daniel Sforres gets it done. What do you guys think of the race? I mean, maybe DJ, I don't know if you want to answer. But everybody else.

I didn't think the race was bad. I thought the race, it's worse than Daytona for a spotter. It's fun. It needs to be for as intensive as it is. We can just cut that thing in half because there's enough excitement in half of a race for a full race. Bubba gave me the old, like he's like, all right, man, just stay calm up there. And I'm like, but you can't talk fast enough. Like stuff happens so fast.

It's like, you know, I'm sure my octave was getting higher because I just, like, I was an auctioneer. I could not stop talking. Yeah. You text me after race how fun it was. On lap two, how fun was it? Dude, I ain't never seen. Do you see all the black marks on the track? I'm like, oh my gosh.

So that started with just a dumb move and maybe it's a what idiot contender. You know, we're going down the front stretch and Gillen just stops to try and let his teammate up. Like, just you can't do that. Is that a product of no practice? No. No. No. It's just a product of your, like everybody going into it, watched the race the night before,

and I think most of the people thought the top was going to be very dominant. You know, you watch the two races, you know, nobody could pass Chessie level and I did the whole race, I think. And then the truck race is kind of the same thing. The only time the bottom got going is when Kyle was down there making it work. So I think everybody was so concerned that the top was going to be dominant that the 34 got trapped on the bottom, the 38th is just checking up to let him up because they think they need to be at top.

They think the 34 is going to get hung, and he just terrible. I mean, the star finish line, he's so tight right there. We're just, it's just an accordion effect. And then unfortunately, Austin Dillon, two weeks in a row, gets spit out of the crowd there. Yeah. But, yeah, so that was, that had no do a practice. I mean, obviously, practice would have been nice, but that had nothing to do a practice, I don't think. Hey, did you think, um, to answer me this?

Did they, did the start get messed up? Yes. Because I was like, I was, look, before the race started, I was like, I wonder if they're going to do this right and they didn't. How so? It was, yeah. Well, I don't. The lineup. So the lineup, so the front row was the 34 and the 22.

So 34's on the pole 34's on the pole He's qualified first 32's on the outside You're supposed to The 34 is supposed to choose his lane At one to go When we get to the start-finish line

When they take one to go He's supposed to choose what lane he wants After After everything's already settled Yeah yeah So at coming to one to go They're supposed to move the penalty cars So the 22 is supposed to be in the outside lane

When they leave the pit road Practice The 34 takes the top early. Well, now the 22's on the bottom. So they drop the 22 to the bottom while the whole inside row moves up when technically the whole outside row should have moved up. And of course, they didn't catch it or didn't care to catch it. So I mean, it's not a huge deal, but it could have been. It's a huge deal when you wreck on lap two. When you wreck on lap two and there's, you know. That's a huge deal. Well, Kyle went from third to the pole. Yeah. Essentially inside front row.

And then he led the race from it for a while. So it's a big deal. You know when there's penalty cars. You look what row they're in and you see if you gain spots because it is a big deal. It all matters. Yeah. For sure. Yeah. So maybe that, I don't know. I mean, but the weird part about it was is the 22s in the bottom. They put them in the back. Then they're like, all, you're on the outside row in the back. Yeah. And then like, like it just didn't make any sense. I don't know. So I want y'all's perspective on it because y'all were there. Why was the truck race and the Xfinity race, arguably two of the worst races in NASCAR history? And then the very next day, we have one of the best races in NASCAR history.

Is it, it's not the track? No, what is it with those two series? What made it a bad race for the Xfinity and truck? They're not racing. It's a parade. It's a train. See, last year was the complete opposite with Xfinity because they all went in turn to three for the first time and all about wrecked.

So I don't know. I was talking to Jordan, Bianchi, before the race started, and I said, you know, obviously last night was awful. I thought those were two terrible races, like not to take anything away from Jesse Love, but you shouldn't be able to lead 157 of. whatever he led to like 165 laps before he ran out of the dance. And I said, listen, I didn't have a lot of optimism about the bottom, but I knew it would be better because just for the sole purpose of our guy,

the cup guys are better than the X-Findy guys. And like I said, you could see the bottom lane take off in the truck race when Kyle let it. You know, Kyle knew what to do, how to lead it, and obviously had a very strong truck, which you needed. And I think that played part in the X-FINITY race, too, where the two and the 22 are the two fastest cars on racetrack. So if you put one of them out front, you're probably not going to get around them. So you're better off, you know, the guys are timid to make that move now.

We've seen it. Michael Annette won the Daytona Xfinity race for that same reason. Like, guys are just afraid to get out of line because they know if it doesn't work right away, then you're going to the back. You know, we saw it with, I think it was AJ late in the race, got, you know, somebody got to his outside. He went straight to the back. So, you know, I think guys are a little timid to make a move when you have a really strong car leading because if you don't get clear, then you're going to the back. but yeah I think just honestly just the talent level

you know I think is what produces we see it all the time in every race you know some racetracks where you just the other races are not great obviously Xfinity we think is always great like mile and a half compared to the cup races but I think something like that where you need to get talent I was curious if you thought it was

the amount of good cars or trucks because obviously in Cup you've got 30 plus cars that are going to keep up and be in that lead pack and be able to create that energy and Xfinity if we're on us with each other. There's 15 to 18 teams that are really, really fast and funded. So I didn't, I was curious what you guys thought caused the racing to be so bad. Honestly, to me, it's the drivers in the cars. So everyone goes back and watches videos

the last race. And everyone's like, oh, man, you got to get in that top lane. So they all come out of these meetings. Man, we got to be in the top. We got to be in the top. So then now they all have a fear going to the bottom, which I think, I think it'll evolve and I think it'll change once these guys, once they see a guy like Kyle run that race and be like, oh, okay, well, we can run the bottom and make it work. This is how we do it now. So next race, we go back there. We might see all these guys line up down there.

And you know what I mean? I just think it's evolving. And last race is there. I thought we're pretty messy. I mean, they were messy. They were messy. And this one was the opposite. We were fearful to go back there because they were so messy.

And the racing was so bad Saturday. I was afraid of what Sunday was going to hold. I ask you this too real quick. Front row motorsports. They've never been on the front row in their lives until this year it doesn't seem like like those guys are a haul and ass why is it uh well no they i mean i know they've jumped up to be a tier one oe m tier one o em but but you don't just overnight man holy cow they switch alliances right they're not they're with pansky now versus i think they were

with rfk in the past um i think they've been qualifying decent at plate races here they did last year and i'm not surprised at this but i also think you're not surprised tigilla land led over 50 laps I mean, the amount of laps that he led, you know, and as aggressive as he was, I thought he did a really good job. That was surprising. What is surprising to me was that it was him and not McDowell because McDowell is supposed to be the savvy veteran that's really good at plate racing stuff. But I know that their cars, I mean, obviously they're trimmed out. Yeah, that was one thing I took away from it. They were really good out front.

When they got in the pack, Todd struggled pretty big. There was two or three times where I thought he was wrecking off a turn two. If he could get air on his nose, if he could get air on the nose, he was pretty good. But he couldn't, I mean, not that the car wasn't good, but it was more of a struggle. And I honestly think, you know, I think we'll see how it really goes. The next two races are going to be, or this next week will be more of a sign of how it's going to be. For sure. For sure.

Brad, I believe, had a foot cam in his car. And it was pretty cool to see the closer he'd get to the front, obviously, the more he was wide open. Oh, yeah. But there were some times where when he was like fifth or sixth in line, he was lifting a ton. He would use a break getting into three. Oh, yeah. So Fox did a really good job. I mean, I'm not trying to discount what they did in Daytona, but they did a really good job of having a really good broadcast yesterday as opposed to what I saw for the Daytona 500.

The camera angles. Let me Dale Jr. tweeted they were shooting too tight, which I think I've said that on the show. I know I've tweeted that before. The pictures are so good. They look. It looks so good, but you want to see the whole story. I don't want to see the detail in that. headlight. I want to see who's making a run three, four cars back. If we had to spot based on the

TV, we wouldn't be able to do it because they shoot so tight. And being a spotter, I want to see the bigger picture so you can see where the energy is coming from. But overall, Casey, I thought it was a really, really, really good race, really, really good broadcast. And thank goodness. TJ, they made it very clear. What? And you wonder why I have to comment. Yeah. On the, on the, broadcast obviously Brad I think got loose and you know had a bit of a wreck what was going on how was communication with with you guys is there anything that could have avoided that uh I mean we didn't really have anybody in front of us at that point in time you're just you're playing offensive defense at the

same time and at that point in the race you when you're on the outside lane you have to be defensive of the middle and the high side and the five kind of went to the corner a little bit higher than us out back and we'd been running the same kind of line where you kind of go in not really in the middle not really on the top so the guy really can't make a move. And I don't know. I mean, it just snapped so quick. I didn't even see him wiggle. It just snapped.

So I'm not 100% sure, you know, if something didn't happen. But it looked like Chris did the same thing earlier. But our car was really good. Really stable. He was happy with it. And if Brad's not happy with a car, like, he wasn't happy with it at the beginning of the race. So we didn't push anything. I mean, we kind of fell back and, you know, the high teens maybe, low 20s.

just saving a car. And then we got the car good and he was able to go. So, I mean, no, I don't think that's a communication thing at all. I think that's just guys going forward at the end of the race. I mean, I'll tell you one thing that dry, like it happens. I swear to God, every time this goes down, this scenario plays out, the same thing happens. And you guys could agree or disagree. Every time somebody gets a pass-through penalty to start the race, we have a caution in two laps to save them.

Barwick, Bristol, I forget. I mean, it feels like every time. it happens. Like there's a caution to save the race there. What was the issue with Joey? So I don't know. I heard 47 different things. I want to see a picture of the gloves.

So I heard it wasn't how to do with the gloves. No, it had to do it the gloves. It's definitely the glove. I think it's a combination of things. So from what I understand at Daytona, there was some people complaining about him pulling his window net forward during his qualifying lap to get the pole. Then obviously there was something,

they're obviously cracking down on, SFI ratings because the picker guy's got a big mandate this week to make sure I don't know if a lot of guy picker guys don't they use gloves but don't use maybe SFI rated gloves so there was a big mandate that went out about that this week about you know we're coming to check you better have the right stuff on I think it's like head socks and everything yeah yeah the whole everything head to toe SFI so then I don't I don't know I heard there was some webbing in the glove maybe to make it flow air better although there was yeah you can I see it pictures uh what

So I thought it was somebody had sent me a video last night that I thought was interesting, where you can see him. He finishes his qualifying lap Daytona and only takes off his left glove and pulls the window net down. So it's like, you know, obviously he probably didn't. He doesn't need both two gloves like that. He just needs the one. What they're doing is if it's a webbed glove, he's putting it in the window. You see the guys, if you watch qualifying, you can see the guys stick their hand up in the window to deflect air from coming in the car.

And it just, it helps. I don't know how much, but it helps. Oh, it would help a ton. Yeah. If you got it. It's way less. It's going to be less drag a lot. right. Like we give Tyler Reddick because he's so small he can barely get his hand up there.

So he's like he's trying, he's like trying to slide down to the seat to get his long little Lassar. He's just sitting a booster seat for qualifying. But yeah. So do you think the penalty yesterday is enough or do you think that he should be fine? It's just blatant cheating. So listen, what was Chandler Smith's penalty? He didn't put a head sock on. Yeah, but I'm saying it's an SFI penalty. It was, what, 25,000 or 10,000? A ton of money for an Xfinity Series driver. I can't remember it was 10 or 25,000. I thought it was 15, but that's a lot of money for an Xfinity series driver. This is the same thing.

Zoom in. It won't. I don't think you can do it. This is the same thing. I can't tell the size of it like that. You go. If you zoom in, it gets bigger. Yeah, zoom on.

Look, you can kind of see it. Oh, yeah. So, I mean, this is, they claim the same thing. It wasn't an SFI rated product, so it's essentially not wearing SFI. So it should be some kind of fine if they're going to be consistent. Well, Joey is an SFI product, but it was modified. Oh. And you're not allowed to modify it.

That's what I read. It should still be some kind of fine. Yeah, you can't give them. That's what they said on the video, TV or something. On a similar note, and I think I heard somebody, somebody tweeted about your comment during the truck race, the roof. So falling off. So, Ty Dillon, I was spot for Ty Dillon. And the yellow comes down.

I said, there's no wreck. I'm like, it must be debris. He's like, yeah, I just got hit with a roof. And I'm like, is this guy crazy? I'm like, what is he talking about a roof? And then the 41 comes around and is a convertible? And I'm like, yeah, okay. And if you looked at the 25 truck at the end of the race,

like it about blew the windshield out of our, like, it must have hit us flush because it, the roof was caved in. It blew the camera off. The windshield was, I ruined our day. But these guys are cheating. And what I heard this morning, I heard there's a rule coming out. Easy. That's my truck, man. Oh, well, don't cheat.

Calm the hell down. So, and I heard there was, I heard. Your truck was a convertible? Yeah. And it ended up being a convertible. So I got a funny story. So I'm at a dance recital. I'm actually not a dance title, a dance competition.

And Mike Hillman's wife, her kids take dance there. And Mike Hillman is your crew chief on this truck, TJ, right? Yeah, oh yeah, he's big time involved there, too. So Mike Hillman, great guy. I've been around forever. That makes sense. So I walk out in the hallway. Well, I saw on Twitter that somebody lost their roof, but I didn't know who it was.

And so I walk out in the hallway and she looks at me and she goes, why would a roof come off a truck? And I said, well, I don't have any idea. So I go back in and I'll find a picture and I come back out and I was like, it honestly looks like windshield braces broke and they created a gap and then obviously air gets under it. And she goes, well, that was Mike's truck. And I said, that was Hillman's truck. She goes, yeah, she said, I pray to God they don't suspend him.

I can't deal with him being home every weekend. So there was, and it looked like if you watched, like I think it was Gluck or somebody was tweeting because remember Homestead last year, the 38 truck, who did it again apparently, had to had to deal where their windshield braces broke or loosened up and the windshield was caved in to gain downforce. And it looked just same. It looked the same as on the 41. The 41's windshields caved in for a while and then obviously it creates a gap and it ends up blowing the roof off. But then I heard there was seven or eight trucks after tech that had issues with their windshield braces.

So supposedly there's a rule coming out this morning about how now you, a different way to make sure you fasten them. and they have to leave tonight to go to Vegas yeah so I mean it's going to be it's a tight squeeze for them guys but it's the old TJ just said it around and find out you keep pushing the rules as far as you can and your roof's going to blow off eventually all I know is that early on the race Bailey said I hit something and it got worse and worse and worse so and I don't like I've worked with him for years and he's by the book I mean he's by the book and Bailey he did say hit something and then he sat there and washed it the entire time. I don't know about by the book.

I mean, the guy won a thousand truck races with Todd Bodine. I'm pretty sure he wasn't 100% legal. They're good. But yeah, I don't, like, it kept getting worse and worse. And I could see it down the front stretch. Like, I can see it. And I'm not talking about the roof. I'm talking about the window.

I'm like, oh. So, I'm happy. Hang on it. Yeah. So speaking of cheating. Cheeking. Speaking of cheating. Speaking of cheating.

Speaking of cheating. Does anybody get caught cheating? and not win as often as Stuart Haas. Like, that sounds like, have been caught like a couple times a year. It seems like since we went to this new car.

And I, what was it? Roof rails this week. Two cars got caught. Yeah, like I get, like Hendrick got hammered last year or two years ago for them louvers,

but they were hauling ass when they did it. Like, this is the third or fourth time Stuart Hoss has got a penalty and they haven't been that good in two years. You know? How to get better? It's not getting caught. Maybe, well, maybe just like,

Let's try to get the cars better. Let's stop trying to cheat. Let's not try to cheat. They got caught with that rear window the one time or whatever. Who's that? Harvick. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. They keep getting caught.

Oh, no. Did he win? No. Yeah, that might have been. It was like Vegas or something. Yeah, that was two years ago, right? That was like two or three. That was a while ago.

Yeah. But that might have been their last win. But like it's just, I don't know. I don't get it. Like, I mean, I guess. I literally had like when the season started, I put a list together and said, all right, who's on the hot season. and I said every SHR driver.

Like there isn't one driver that I would look at and say they're safe. Yeah. I mean, Barry's probably safe. Yeah, I was going to say Josh is probably the safest because I feel like you don't, you know, he's a rookie. I feel like we're getting ready to find out how good he is. Yeah, but I mean, I honestly thought he ran a pretty good Daytona 500, quietly ran up near than the front half of the field,

and then he was running decent this race too. I think this weekend we find out how good he is. Well, yeah, we're not going to know until we can start going to some of these real race tracks. It's easy to go get in the nine car. I mean, right now, Todd Gillen and Michael McDow look like the stars of the series. Absolutely. You know. Prior to the race and even during the race, I know Chastain and Josh Williams were very vocal about the fact that there was no practice.

I mean, Brett, you are also very vocal on Twitter. What do you guys think? You're not a popular guy on the spotter stand right now, but I don't know. I don't have a spot. I don't think he's, has he ever been? This is, what, what, do you know what your first race is? Can you say what your first race is? That's in a big state.

I don't know what that means. But so, oh, it's probably next week. Or no, it's probably Cota. Yeah, that's definitely. We're going to have practice and this time, we'll be bitting that we're there. Oh, we got, I'm talking about it's a practice. Ridiculous. But do you guys agree?

Should there have been? 100%. He'll leave there being like, this is stupid. They're paying me so much money. I'll watch all the practice. Y'all want. Here's the deal, though. The drivers.

that aren't veterans. Imagine going into the truck series as a rookie and having to race against Matt Kraftin who has a gazillion starts in that series at these tracks. Imagine going to Atlanta for the first time as a rookie.

I mean, Jesse Love obviously proved you can do it in a rocket ship. But practicing the little things, man, coming to pit road, getting in your pit stall, knowing where your lifting points are, they're screwing these drivers and teams completely over by not practicing. But I think are the teams not the ones that want it?

Well, the teams want to save money. But is that really helping your sport? If we had practiced on Friday for the Xfinity Series and the Truck Series, would those two races have looked like absolute garbage like they did? Probably. Like, I just think the drivers deserve an opportunity to go out there and practice. I don't think it's going to matter. I think if you took a pole in the garage.

Let's pull the crew chiefs from the drivers. Crew chiefs and drivers will want practice. The owners, I think, would like to just. keep it the way it is. Of course they won't. Owners and spotters will say. Hey, if I were spotting, I wouldn't want to practice either because I don't need practice. And I'm not saying that arrogantly. Like, I don't need to go up there and watch practice. It doesn't make me a better spotter.

But let me ask you this. What have you ever done in practice to make you a better spotter? But are you going to, you go to Atlanta is if you go out there in practice, your first time there, you're going to go out there by yourself. You're going to hold it wide open. How is that even getting any practice for the race, really? Are you going to be in a pack, a 30 car, 30 truck pack? No. So are you really learning anything in practice?

If I get to do that and I have a problem with my car and or my driver area or what a tire going down or whatever, at least I get to go out there and know that. What if you cut a tire versus going out there? Then you're wreck. Versus going out there and trying to make the Daytona 500 on time and you don't get practice. That's the dumbest shit ever. I mean, I do think you could use a little bit of practice. Like one practice for the Daytona 500 might be, you know what I mean? like an hour long.

30 minutes, something. Yeah, just something like that. But, I mean, we have it everywhere else. But I don't, I don't think at Atlanta, like, I really don't, I don't think a. And when we do have practices, too short. Oh, I'm sure. He is. He's a.

One idiot coming up, T.J. Oh, man. Just before we get going, we're not going yet. Well, before we get into spot-on, spot off, I should say. Tungsten butt plugs. Does anybody, anybody have any opinions on tungsten butt plugs? I think we were the first people I think we were the first people

to ever say that these drivers needed to weigh in their underwear I think if you go back years ago to one of our shows we said it because I would watch Elliot Sadler get dressed in the motorhome before he go weigh in that was weird okay but if you would like you would see these guys go waiting

they used to weigh in their fire suits right yes and you would it would sound like a hardware store walking by you when they went to it they had on their listen they had on I mean, Elliot would have on several layers of clothes under his fire suit. Oh, yeah. With stuff in his pockets.

Sterling, like, 05 maybe, Sterling came in the, he opened up the bolt bin. It just starts so much. That was 15 years ago. That was 20 years ago. That was 20 years ago. Oh, I got a way in. I might explain my martin's in such a good mood all the time. All those years of the 78 together.

Oh, my gosh. Hey, you know what drove me crazy again about this week? the way. No, I can't guess. The guy that starts the big wreck with five to go wins the race. You know what I didn't, what I didn't mind is seeing that 48 putt around there trying to fix it. What,

why don't you like to 48? I mean, I'm, Oh, you're talking about it from last week. I did like Alex's comments. It's like, he said,

everybody got mad at me or whatever. And they cheered me when I finished second. They all wanted to kill me for starting a big wreck, and then they all thought I won the race. Did you guys, watch DJD reloaded on Thursday, but we had Alex on and we straight up asked him, like, that might have been what it was from. Keep in mind, when we go back to the next time we go back to this place, first playoff race.

I know. Yeah. I'll tell you what, like I said, I said that it was fun to spot last night. I wouldn't want to do it every week. No, absolutely not. I don't do that every week. It was fun. But I would assume, I don't know, I would assume the first playoff race would be a little more mild just

because guys are going to have to be a little more conservative. You're going to regret that. That's what you say now. Totally. He's going to eat those words. I think, I mean, I would hope that's the case because,

like, I feel like the second race of the year, you're all out. Don't matter. I hope that's the case, too, because I had to spot my ass off on the second lap for whatever it was. I went through two batteries last night, which I never go, which was a little chilly at night,

but like I never, I usually don't go through one of race, and that was two. I mean, I never came off the button. I was like, I'm tired of hearing you talk. There was,

He tweeted he didn't even want to read a tweet from you. That's how tired of hearing you talk about it is. We have like a team chat. He said, we have this video. They play every week like a hype video. And I say, hey, when you get a chance, give me a call, I got to talk to you about it a couple of days. Shit.

And then I got Brad saying, oh, keep it up. I keep giving all that info under one of the cautious. Oh, Bubba likes the info. I think he just gets tired of sound of my voice. Hey, next time he's in the pack, just shut up for a laugh. See what he says. You like that, huh? Somebody had a problem yesterday.

I forget who it was. but their battery went dead or something happened, and their radio didn't work for a lap. And I'm like, now he knows how much you need him. If you get a lone, left alone for two laps, it's a big deal sometimes. Well, just quickly before we hadn't spot on, spot off,

obviously one of the best finishes in NASCAR history yesterday. How would you rank that among some of the others, such as a 2007 Daytona with Harvick and Mark Martin and Emerson Kislauski. we've got, oh, Harvick and Gordon for Atlanta. Yeah, so I'm more, I still kind of put this in the super speedway realm of finishes. I think the other, like the Darlington Craven, Kurt Busch battle, I think was way better than this because they're, this, this is still plate racing, you know, like, those dudes are on the edge. Yeah, they're just driving the shit out of it.

These guys are just wide open. And like the thing that decided, like Bubba basically decided the race, we go in the corner and, and got tight. You know, I'm sure, I think he was going to try and square Blaney up and, and push Blaney to the wind because obviously they're friends. And we get tight and lose all our momentum. You know, like we had a lot of damage from the first wreck. Our splitter was killed.

So we were tight all race anytime we had, you know, air on our nose. And he goes in the corner and gets tight. And if he doesn't get tight, I think he pushes Blaney to the wind easily off and four. But then we, you know, so this is just, these guys are wide open, drag races down the front. Obviously, it's a great finish. I mean, don't take anything away from the finish. But I think those, the Walkins Glen races where these guys are just driving the shit out of it for a whole lap off the track and bouncing off each other. The Darlington Craven, those things rank a little bit higher for me.

Yeah, the cars are sideways. Literally, they can't get the throttle down. These guys have no problem getting a throttle down on this finish. You know, and what I was surprising with this is, like, going down to Baxter, I'm like, oh, Blaney's in a really good spot here. Then, like, the pack swallowed him. Yeah. And I was like, how did they get three wide that quick into three?

And, but it was a good finish. I think it's up there, but here's the problem with us three. In terms of how we rank the finish. Yes, it's a super close finish. Yes, it's an exciting finish. But how much talent did it take to run the last lap for those guys that were three wide coming across the start finish line? And I'm not saying they're not talented. I'm just saying that this particular style of racing, we're not looking at them white knuckling at wrestling the car, the car control.

The things that we think make a great finish as racers versus fans watching at home. What brought me to that conclusion was Daniel made two really big mistakes in the last lap and won the race just because of the circumstances behind him. He's leading the top line. He gets a good block on Blaney off of two, and then he pulls back down and lets Blaney drive by him on the outside to where Blaney can get clear. Then he gets clear. So now they flop the lead around. Blaney blocks the bottom. Daniel gets back outside, which is a good move.

But now here they come down the backstretch, they leave the middle so open that Kyle, you know, Bub is shoving Kyle. Kyle's got enough room to go through the middle of the two of them, which could never happen. You know, he should be tied on Blaney, and the two of them, you know, decide the race amongst his young. Well, now they bring the eight into the picture because they left a hole. Blaney pulled down during that same time. Yeah, if there was a mistake on the last lap, I would say it's probably more on Blaney and a three. Oh, I know, but I mean, if you got it, like, you know this is better than you, like, you have to keep that middle closed up. Like, if you're on the top, you know, whatever it is.

If Blaney moves down, you got to move down with them because you don't want to invite anybody else in there. And I didn't know, like, I'm counting Bubba down because we got a good push off of two. and I'm thinking that we're going to get boxed, you know, we're going to be boxing behind Blaney, and the eight's going to have to push him, and then I'm just counting him down to Blaney, and then all of a sudden the eight darts middle, and I'm like, oh, okay, well, then I knew kind of Bubba was probably going to want to go with the 12.

So I might just fill the bottom, and then we go in the corner push. But if we don't push, the 99 loses because, you know, so that's why I don't think, you know, it's just kind of circumstantial about what happens behind you. It's a lot of law. That's how, that's how, like, you know, at these play races, it's kind of, like, you've got to be lucky. and I feel like he was kind of lucky right there how it worked out.

Same thing with, you know, you got, there's obviously these guys are skilled, but if you look at some of the end of five hunters, Denny didn't, for a couple of these, he didn't even, he didn't, like, they got wrecked in front of him, right? And look at these Talladegas, you know, you get, you get to shove with the backstress, you get clear, then they race behind you and no one ever gets back to you. Or the guy gets shoved so far out front like Newman did at Tal. Was it, where was that Talas? Someone got shoved out front of Talladega, and then that is coming up.

into the dog leg. I mean, the whole group got to them and passed them. It's just all kind of how luck. I mean, you got to have the right push at the right time. And it's just, that's how it works out a lot. It's not that you're out driving a guy. It's who gets to your bumper and shoves you. So, it's a great finish. It'll go down as one of the greatest, closest ever. And for me, it's just not top ten. I mean, it might be top ten, but I mean, it's not top ten for me. It's just, it's another close plate finish to me. It's like, you know what I, what I appreciate about that finish is these guys all race super hard and we showed this is there's an exfini and truck they wouldn't be able to do that in exfvenient truck they wouldn't be

able to cross the line or run four wide like that these guys 100% not showed how how talented they are like in this race obviously after the second that one clip you see of I think it's Cindrick peels off to the bottom and goes in and clears everybody yeah they get four wide behind them and they're coming down the back stretch with that straight on shot like head on the back straight away and you can see I think it's true x is like there four wide and he's literally like there's just not enough room and he's kind of like leaning on each on each other down the backstretch at however fast we're going you know it's like imagine just like

go on the highway today and just try to imagine four cars in three lanes you know what I mean like just you're all like just on top of you can it is too wide 77 it's super exciting to watch it's super exciting to spot it's super exciting apparently to drive because the drivers were rant about it how great it was um but it's a lot of circumstance to get you yeah there's a lot of things have to go right, you know? And one thing that I don't think translates, like Austin Hill at these plate races that we just ram, he wants to lead on the last lap because he knows they're going to wreck behind him. And you can see that's his plan every year. Every year. He just does the same thing. He gets out front and lets everybody wreck behind him. And I think if you looked at how many

of these finishes finished under yellow with them wrecking, I think it's probably at least half of them. I know it was this week, right? Did they wreck this week or that? No. I don't think so. They ran out of gas. There wasn't enough people out there to wrap. I think, like, Shrecks at the wall, but there wasn't a thing that you got to come in, this car on that we have been very tough on at a lot of times, especially at short tracks

and at Super Speedways, saying this car sucks. One thing that this car did not do yesterday, it didn't suck when y'all all wrecked. Thank goodness, you know, 20 cars wreck, and 18 of them continue. Yeah. Intercompetitive. I mean, Bubba was tight, Bubba could drive to the front. Yeah, we could, as long as we had people in front of us. Didn't

Hamlin wreck three times. Yeah. I mean, and you could, like, years past, we, we would have been we would have been tore up. We would have been done in trouble. You know, we probably would have been done or limping around the back. But, yeah, to your point, we've seen that everywhere with this car. Like, you can bounce it off some shit. Like, as long as you don't break a toe link or something, you're going to be in good shape.

Brett, who would, what finishes would be on your top ten list? There's some, obviously, there's some Atlanta races, you know, that I love. I would have to go back and see who won and what year it was. But that track has produced so amazing racing when you look at what Carl Edwards Jimmy Johnson, Kevin Harvick, Jeff Gordon. I mean, those guys were able to do. There's a lot of Bristol races I absolutely love. Clearly, Darlington is one of my favorite tracks,

and that is probably the greatest finish in NASCAR history with Craven and Bush going around there. But, I mean, it's just a circumstance of the Super Speedway racing. Is it one of the best finishes ever? Absolutely. Is it one of my top ten greatest races I've ever watched? No, just not. Consumer Sailor is the official wireless partner

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So what are you waiting for? See consumer cellular.com for promotional details. Well, let's kick off spot on, spot off with a similar topic. Atlanta was the best next-gen race so far. Freddie, spot on, spot off. Again, probably spot off. You know, I think it was a great race. it's a plate race. You know, it's, it's the, it's the best plate race we've had so far by far,

I think. But I enjoy, I enjoy more of seeing the guys kind of on edge at my own and a half. So I think Charlotte was a great race a couple years ago or last year. Last year was you know, there's been, I think there's been races where you can look and see that the guys are driving the shit of the car and you're like, wow, that was, that was impressive. It might not be a, you know, three thousandths of a second finish, but what they did and competing like that with each other is, I'd have to go back and look and see one to come to mind. But I think, again like I think the race was so good yesterday that it was just you know because of we're packed up you know plate package or speedway package or everyone to call it um but yeah I don't I don't know that

it was the best next gen race ever tj I don't think it was the yeah I don't I don't know if I could ever give a plate race the best next gen race because there's just too many circumstances that that lead up to the finish to that and how somebody wins the race and the drivers aren't like I can't literally sit there and say that some guy just got up on the wheel that that race and out drove everybody that right i can't say that so um great race great finish but i don't think it's it's yeah i don't think it's the best next-gen race i mean it's perspective it's not that we don't like it it's not that we don't appreciate it um and i don't want fans to take it the wrong way is it the best super speedway speedway best super speedway it's the best super speedway race with this generation of

car by far hands down but it's not my favorite race in this this generation of car. Just not. I mean, give me a slick Charlotte or give me somewhere that the tires wear off of Darlington, you know, I mean, it's as a racer, you know, and obviously I'm a fan too, a lot of these weekends, but as a racer, there's a lot more that goes into it than what it takes to win that race. Spot on, spot off. Daniel Suarez saved to see that track house with this Atlanta win. Brett. Oh, man, there's a lot of talk about this. I mean, I had Daniel Suarez. on my list, and I'll give you guys a list, so there's no confusion. Here's drivers I had on the hot seat.

Austin Cendrick. Austin, Dillon. Austin's your third points, by the way. I know. This is preseason. This is my list preseason. Drivers on the hot seat. Austin Cendrick, Austin Dillon, all of Stuart Hoss Racing.

If Bushier wins multiple races, Brad Kislauski, Brad's obviously the owner, Daniel Suarez. That's all the bigger name drivers that I had on my, they're on the hot seat list. Daniel Suarez goes out and wins the second race of the year, locks himself into the playoff, locks himself into the All-Star race. It's going to get a lot of hype. He didn't lock himself into the playoffs yet. Well, I mean, unless something really stupid happens, he's locked himself into the playoffs.

He's under a lot of pressure because Ross Chastain has won four races in the amount of time that going into yesterday, Daniel had won one. Ross tends to be up front a lot. Daniel does not. SVG comes in and wins, and is four. first ever road race in the same equipment. They've won seven races as an organization in the last three years. I don't know with Zane, and I look at this thing and I go, well, what do you do with, what

do you do with Sauras if he's under contract with Trackhouse, but he doesn't have a seat in the 99? Well, you'd swap seats with him and Zane Smith, wouldn't you? Yeah. You could. Obviously, SVG is under contract. So charter-wise, Trackhouse has. Way more drivers than they have charters.

So that tells me somebody's screwed. It's either somebody that, like a Zane Smith or SVG or at Sauras, I think right now, Suarez needs to go win one more race to be 100% locked in. He's got to go be competitive at all these other places to stay for me to say he's solidified in the car that he's in. Now, Matt Swinderski is his crew chief. Matt and him just got hooked up.

Matt came from RCR. He went to collie racing. A lot of people don't know this about Matt. He also worked for Elon Musk. He built rockets. This guy is fucking smart. I worked with Matt. We actually won the race together with AJ Ammendinger at the Indianapolis Road course a few years ago with Colleg Racing.

I think he's going to be a huge asset to that organization. I think he was the smartest guy at Colleg Racing. I don't mean anything by that. I don't mean to discount, you know, Lenny and Alex and Bruce Slicker and everybody else is over there. But I thought he was the smartest guy at Colleg Racing and he left to go to trackhouse. I think that's going to benefit Casey Daniel Suarez a ton. But Daniel's going to have to show up for me to say he's solidified in this particular car for a long time and win more races. But here's the thing we don't know.

How much money does Daniel still have behind him? When he came into the sport with Joe Gibbs Racing, he came in with a company called Aris, which was backed by Carlos Slim. It was over $20 million. They sponsored Carl Edwards in Cup. They sponsored somebody in Xfinity, I believe it was Suarez. And then they sponsored Suarez and trucks. They wrote a big check. how much money is he still got with him because it still takes money to race too so you're a spot

off you don't agree that this is i'm i don't think not in this particular car i'm not saying he won't stay a track house driver i'm not saying he won't stay a part of the family but i don't think he stays in this car unless he can can prove himself to be competitive and run up front top tens every week or a lot of weeks and be a contender i i agree from the what we just talked about you know this was not a i don't want to take anything away because i thought he did a good job i don't think he had the fastest car. I think he was one of the most aggressive guys at the end, and that's what got him to win. But it's still circumstantial. He's won Bubba Wallace push away from, you know, not winning that race. So, you know, third place ain't saving his job. So it's just, you know,

I think, I think a lot of it depends on the success of SVG, the success of Zane Smith this year. You know, if Zane goes out, Zane hasn't had a great start to his year, you know, obviously we'll see, we're going to get a better idea of like, PJ said earlier of what everybody really has when we go to the races, you know, in the coming weeks. But, you know, if them guys kind of, you know, have a mediocre season in Xfinity or Zane Cup, you know, there's no point. And you're not going to take one of them to replace Daniel, especially after coming off the playoff season. But I agree with Brett.

This doesn't, I don't know that this does a lot, you know, it doesn't lock them in by any means to that 99 car in the future. Yeah, I don't think this, to me, this doesn't really change a whole lot yet. If you would have won the Daytona 500, I'd say that probably helped. That'd be... That's crazy. Yeah. So, to me, Todd Gouldland had a more impressive day than what, you know, the win at the end there. I think Todd, what his day was running up there with the front guys, slicing and dice in there a bit, leading a lot of laps.

That was more impressive to me than, you know, a three-wide finish, no matter which one of them guys win. nothing against him, great race to the end. But, like, what, you know, for Todd, if you would have told me that Todd was going to lead that many laps beginning of the race, I was like, yeah, that's probably not going to happen. So I don't think anybody would have thought he'd lead that many. You know, last year, I think Todd got a little chip on his shoulder last year when they took him out of that 38 car for whatever Zane's races were going to be, because I felt like you've seen his performance step up, especially the second half of last year, to where front row basically

had no choice but to put him back in that 38 car. Yeah, he was running good. You know, and now you see the speed. Obviously, we're going to see what the Ford's happened, a mile and a half now. That was kind of, I think, their struggle point a little bit last year. And, you know, we'll see what they have going forward now. But to start the year off, I thought Todd did a great job in the Daytona 500. He was up there in contention all day long.

He was up there yesterday all day long. I seen he tweeted out. He felt like he made one mistake yesterday. That cost him a good finish. I'm sure he got, I think he got caught up in one of that wrecks late, right? But yeah, like I said, like I think last year, I think when they took him out of that car for whatever was, six or eight races that he got sent over to Rick Ware. I think it was like, all right, you know what?

I'm going to show you guys. And at the end of the year, he left them no choice but to put it back in there full time. And you can't really look at points right now. Yes, I read Justin Marks's comments when he said Daniel Suarez is going to be here. Those are sometimes some of the worst words you can ever hear. You know, I can't tell you how many times I've heard. Oh, Freddy's our guy. Freddy's going to be coming back here next year.

Yeah. And then nobody calls Freddie to tell him he's higher. So, you know, you say you can't look at points yet, T.J., but I was watching some show. I think it was truck pre-race maybe or qualifying. Trevor Bain made a point of like I think after after race two or three only two guys that were outside of the top 16 in points

made the playoffs. So like maybe it might have been registered or four. But like it was it was early in the year that only two or three guys bumped in from that were out of the playoffs. So you get there's a lot of guys that are buried right now that are going to have to work their way out. Yeah, but you got to look. We've had we've had two races and both of them had huge wrecks.

Oh yeah. I'm not tonight. Here's who's way out. Tyler Redick, 26th in points. Joy LaGano, 33rd in points. Austin Dillon, 35th in points, and Kislauski, 36th points. Yeah.

Big names, a lot of funding. So, I mean, you look at it, they're not going to, I mean, they have to go on a hell of a run here to be in the top 16 in the next two or three weeks. So if that's that holds true where, you know, the people that are in the top 16 after five races kind of stay the top 16 and without a couple exceptions, that's a hold to dig out of. Moving on. Spot on, spot off.

There was not a caution during the pit cycle wreck between McDowell and Byron. I mean, I didn't, when I looked over there, there was already, see, I didn't see it happened. I think we were on the other side. Should have been a caution. They hit the wall. Both of them. And one of them barely got above the racing line.

He got off the apron and onto the racing line. But they, why was there not a caution? But they kept going, right? They were stopped. And then they got going again. They were both stopped. And listen, here's where I, it should have been a caution. Now, listen, it would have benefited me greatly if it was a caution.

So I'm obviously probably swayed on this idea. But, but it heard like Ty Gibbs, like Tye Gibbs, Hirschman standing next to me, Ty Gibbs coming to pit road with the pack, a middle of the pack, had to stop. The track is blocked again on pit road. So now he loses the draft because he had to stop because two guys that had none to do with him in front of him wreck.

That should be a caution. We talk about this all the time. I get it. You don't want to throw the yellow because of the pit cycle. That should not factor into the caution. and throw the flag decision. Like it's, they two guys wrecked. The 34 hit the wall.

Both cars had damage. Neither one of them were competitive the rest of the day. And you have the 34 kind of sitting up on the apron above that white line that they have on the, on the apron for pit road. Like, how is this not a caution? If TJ had been the, if TJ had been Ty Dillon. Oh, he'd been freaking out of Ty Gibbs. He'd be pissed. Yeah.

Yeah. I'd probably be pissed. Yeah. I mean, we all get pissed if something doesn't go your way on the track. That's just how it goes. It's just, you know, it's not. The caution flag is for crashes. It's not for, ooh, we don't want to throw it here because it's going to really

fuck up our pit cycle. That should have nothing to do with it. And that's the only reason it wasn't a question. When I looked over there, they were already rolling. So I wasn't, that's why, I mean, I didn't see them hit. Yeah. So what happened was the 34 is outside of 24. He locks up coming to pit road.

So he hangs the left, wheel hops, hangs a left, runs the two of them into the wall. They bounce off the wall, slide back up onto the racetrack, but like above the white line on the apron where the pit road is. Yeah. They sit there for a minute. Then they get fired up and get going. and but I mean still like Ty Dillon got screwed there's I'm sure there's other people in that mess that were I mean I don't know how long they sat there but like if like I'm not saying they I mean to me if they're sliding up towards the racing surface I probably would have thrown it then what I mean when have we ever seen a car stopped I mean the Saturday night they could have easily you know as soon as the 39 stopped at a fuel that yellow was out yeah he's on pit road he's coming to pit road he's stopped at the entry to pit road no yellow after hitting the wall after hitting the wall yeah my step down my step down looks at me, he goes, how's that not a caution? I said, well, let me give you my opinion.

Some cars had already pitted. Some cars were out there wide open, and some guys were in the process of pitting. And if they hit that little button that makes the yellow lights come on, they're going to have a fucking mess on their hands of figuring out who goes where. And they don't want to take 20 minutes to figure that out. They want, they're praying that these two cars that just hit the wall and wrecked get going quick enough for them not. to have to do that. And that's what I think happened. Yeah.

How do you solve for that then? You throw the yellow when cars crash. And then you're 20 minutes out from trying to figure out. You're not going to be 20 minutes. But listen, if that's what it is, it is. You know, I mean, if I would have been on the other side of it and got burned by it, I'd have been pissed. But I would have been like, all right, you know, they wrecked.

What are you going to? It's a bad luck situation. But, you know, like when cars crash, like I said, you have a car stopped on pit road the night before you throw the caution immediately. You have a car stopped on pit road the next day. You don't. If a car is sliding a car is sliding a car. into the groove it has to automatically be a cause for me i'm probably if they're if the guys get it

rolling and it a fairly decent if they stop for any period of time and don't move you got to throw it right away but if they if the drivers make a good at i mean if they stop and you know you know oh i'm straight i'm going and they do that then i understand while they're while you know there's a little bit of area there to because you don't want to throw it if you don't have to and if the guys do a good job of getting it going yeah it's just you're both listening to nascar during this process did they at least key up? No, I don't think so. Well, they talked about it because I heard them saying.

Somebody called in. They talked about it. It's turn three clear or something like that. Yeah, the officials did the officials say had Washington. I'm asking, did the tower key up to potentially throw the car? I think they said, no. I think they just said it's turn three clear after they got rolling. That's what the tower said.

Yeah, they were watching. And then the other guy, well, the other two officials, they did. I think there was two people that checked in and said, backstress, clear, three and four is clear. And when they say that, I don't, I mean, if you're the, if you're, if you're, If you're hands on the button, why do you throw it then? You know what I mean? Because you're going off your officials.

I mean, I'm just saying if that's what you're going off. So you think it should not have been a caution? I mean, I don't know. I didn't see the wreck. So if there was a guy sliding up to the groove, then I don't know. He was going towards the groove. I don't know if he was ever going to get to the groove. I think he barely got just barely right at it.

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, if everything's still fluid and moving, if a guy hits the wall and stops, you got to throw it. And I knew they weren't thrown the yellow. You just said if a guy hits the wall and stops, you got to throw a yellow. Well, that's what happened. If he comes to a complete stop, like, yeah, I mean. They did.

But if he's, if he instantly starts moving, like, he's trying to keep up. Well, which one is it? Is it a complete stop or is it if he comes to a stop moving? If he hits the wall and his car is messed up where he can't move. But if he brushes the wall and he's way out down by the wall, I'm not probably throwing it until I know. The weight is almost over, North Carolina. Fandul, America's number one sports book is coming to your state.

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We have introduced him when you gave him the reaction theater number. He doesn't talk about. We need to get him out of his little bit over there. I don't know what his deal is. He's got a voice. He's afraid to speak because Jay, he went to Clemson. And I think every time he, they, they hired me to keep Brett in check. Just like Clemson's been keeping South Carolina in check. Here we go. If you think you're going to keep me a check, you're going to get fired. I'm just warning you. I was worried about him last week when he showed up to the studio with a clumsy jacket on. 200 and something?

I have been mugged yet. No, yeah, not yet. We'll see. It might be coming. Welcome to Hot Landa, ladies and gentlemen. If you didn't like that race right there, I don't know what's the matter with you. Your mama calms your hair funny and you must not love Jesus. Then boys on Saturday said they couldn't run the inside line.

I think the boys today proved that you could run inside all you wanted to. Atlanta is the best track on the series, bar none. And from somebody who's been going there for the last 15 years, the crowd today was heavier than it's been in 10. I'll give them that. It was a very good crowd yesterday. Yeah. I have a feeling the fall race.

So my unpopular opinion is I still prefer old Atlanta. like saying I prefer old Atlanta tires wearing out having to watch guys drive the hell out of it like I listen I love spotting that race yesterday we keep I can't I don't want to I feel like we're keep being negative about this race I love that race last night I thought that that was the most fun I've had spotting in a in a next gen car in three years probably but I still prefer like natural true racing and I prefer a car like a track where tires wear out and but listen if if that if that show is packing the house, keep doing it. Bring it to the Texas too. Is it going to wear out or tires going to ever come back to matter? I don't know.

It's a finny race. They seem to struggle with tire wear a little bit more, but I don't think it's bad enough. I agree with Danny to where if it does start to wear out, they will do something to the track to bring it back.

Like a sealer or, or, you know, via whatever that is, PJ1, resin, whatever it is. But I feel like if it gets to that point where it starts,

I agree with Danny that they'll do something to the track. Whole speed. Mother of . I don't know what air speed means, Brett. But what a fantastic freaking race, man. Congrats to Daniel Suarez. He needed that. And I'd like to welcome Ross Chastain back to the Don't Give a F*** tour.

And I'm going to get back to my beer. Y'all have a good one. So on that note, the Ross Chase incident, what in the world? So I don't know if TV did a good job. covering it. Bubba and Ross were battling for the Lucky Dog. Right. And we were back and forth. Like we got stuck behind him for a little bit and then we got to the middle and we were trying, we were outside of them. And then all that was was Ross aggressively trying to push Chase to get back in front of Bubba because the caution can come out at any time,

obviously. And that that's what that came from. I don't know. I think I heard Mike Joy mentioned it after the fact during one of the replays that, oh, you know, look, here's what was going on here. You know, Bubba and Ross are basically side by side for Lucky Dog. And obviously we all got back and I think we all finished. At one point it was we got trapped a lap down because Bubba spent on beer. We have maybe my one idiot of the week should have been Bubba because we have all these different lights for Pitt Road and the only part like to get to his box and then leaving his box is just all green all the way out.

And his dumb sped leaving. Like there's 47 light changes from the entrance of Pitt Road to your box nails all of them, all green leaving. Nope, that was too hard. We got to speed. So I got to give him shit about that. But what the hell we're even talking about? I can't remember.

The Chase and Ross. Oh, so yeah. But the 8, the 47, the 1 and us were all battling for the Lucky Dog and we're all finishing the top 10. Yeah. I was looking at, I'm like, well, I told Brad at one point, there's a really good race going on back here for the Lucky Dog right now. I mean, that was probably the hardest I spotted all day, was trying, because we had to

start the tail, obviously. And then you're driving back up there. That's a lot of pressure, though. You're driving back up there. I mean, you're racing for the, you feel like you're racing for the win. Because you're, but it's funny because nobody else has any idea what you're doing. You know what I mean?

Like, luckily, Hirsch was next to me. One time he, like blocked us or something. And I'm like, hey, dumb, I'm racing the one for the lucky dog.

So he said, oh, so then that Ty kind of gets out of the way and gets behind us and starts helping a little bit. But like, there's 20 guys out there that have no idea what you're doing and meet us

and the water. They don't have time to know what you're doing. Us and the Ross are cutting through the field and filling holes we probably shouldn't be filling. So I was told last week, Jay, you can confirm this maybe that we had 87 cusset.

It was, yes. Yes, over 100. It was over a hundred different beliefs. I did want to congratulate you guys. You did break a record with Bubba. Bubba contributed.

Bubba was the problem. I think it was that bourbon. Once that bourbon came out, you got a little bit loose-lived. I had actually made a deal with myself over the winter. I wasn't going to cuss on here anymore. Good fucking chance. I think we should do a little change jar.

No, we had that. Nobody put any money in there. I don't care of big bills. Jay, I went to South Carolina. Actually, I think Brett just put a hundred in to begin with, and that was it. Like he covered himself for a while. There ain't no change in these pockets, Jay.

This is what happened when you go to South Carolina. This is what South Carolina degrees pay. Show me that. Get your wallet out. Let's see what. Look, they're still coming. As if Britt isn't big enough ass.

Mike is laughing at the corner. That USC education pays well. He probably has like 10 bitcoins. Yeah. That's all he's got. So that's all monopoly money. It's not real. He emptied his bank account on the way.

Yeah. It's completely fucking dry. Let's please move on. You guys get some interesting calls on the show. This is more. But I'm a returning fan, not because of Netflix, but actually because I listen to your podcast as recommended by a friend. And as my second race back, I think it's been great so far this year.

And I think I'm going to be here to stay after this one. Thanks, guys. I appreciate that. No, I think Noah tweeted at us. I think we, I remember sharing that, I think, on Twitter, or seeing that he was listening to Dirty Moe podcast or something like that. So welcome back. Hope you enjoy.

Hopefully the next couple weeks live up to your expectations. Like to go ahead and apologize for the rest of the season of this show. That's like Bob was saying last week he didn't listen to a podcast. Like if you have an interest in something, you know, whatever that may be, if it's building sandcastles, there has to be a great podcast to help you be a better sandcastle builder. So if you love something, like, I mean, I love college football. I listen to multiple college football podcast. But if you're a race fan and you're not listening to this podcast.

What are you doing? I think I don't know what you're doing. Two big problems with Bubba was I think that he doesn't ever want to hear me speak except for, and he doesn't want to be talking on radio anyway. Do you Venmo him that money for me? I did. I figured that's why you have all the hundreds of years. I just realized now I owe you $400.

For what? All this money in my pockets going, getting ready to go to Frikan Freddie. So, so. So, yeah. And the other thing is, like, the guy is, do you ever hear the music he listens to? We can't touch his judgment on anything. Head-banging shit. Yes.

Screaming. It's a whole different level of headbanging. Like, I grew up in the 80s and 90s when, like, Iron Maiden was, like, hard rock, heavy metal. Not Bubba. He listens to, like, concussion protocol. Meadow. He listens to this stuff you can't even understand. understand what they're saying.

Do you guys, we should bring back the videos, remember him and Blaney? There's a buddy of him and Blaney. Like, brother's playing the drums, and Blaney is just sounds like the devil is coming out of him.

Yeah, I don't even know what he's saying. I don't know what's happening. You can't. Well, do, and they do like those goat seances and shit, right? Can you give us an impression, Brett? Can you do it?

Goet on fire. Goal to fire. What? You say goat on fire? Is that what you were saying? I don't think you could say that. The f***a's going to be after us. Peter was mad that Travis Kelsey and Taylor Swift went to the zoo.

Did you see that? Oh, God. I'm sweating. Is it hot in here? New intro. Are we going up there? Please tell me there's more. You all want to hit a couple more?

Oh, yeah. Just keep going. Yeah, please. Ladies and gentlemen, that is one. why you roll into Atlanta, ready to raise hell and praise Dale. That's why you go 12-birds deep on a Sunday afternoon, knowing you got to work tomorrow. Ladies and gentlemen, that's why you make friends with Dale and Bill behind you, knowing that those two are idiots during the rest of the six days a week.

But on that Sunday, all the matters that we're cheering on the same team, racing. And that was racing, ladies and gentlemen. That finished today was absolutely phenomenal. You couldn't ask for anything better, and you will not see it again. Savor this moment. Atlanta's on top. These drivers are on top. We all worked hard today.

The grill was rolling. The beers were flowing, and that racing was good. Damn good. Here's to you. Congrats. I love that call. That reminded me of the preacher from before the race. That guy was good.

It was good. That was a pep talk. It was actually really, really good. It sounded like Stephen A. Yeah. That did sound like Stephen A. Oh, boy. Can we finally stick a fork?

And this hurt-to-d-dur narrative that Atlanta sucks or Atlanta was ruined because I know damn well, all of your motherfuckersers were hooping and hollering in your living room, scaring the sh** kids and pets for that finish. Yeah, I mean, listen, and before last night, the racing wasn't that great, but maybe as it wears, it's going to get better. I don't know. But it was a hell of a race last night. I don't give it that.

All right, we got one more call. One more. Man, that was one best finishes I think I've ever seen. Man, I watched the movie Cars growing up, and man, to see life imitate art, that was amazing. Like, I was on the edge my seat. I was holding my breath. I was jumping up in the air after they crossed the start finish line. And for the first time in a long while, I legitimately had no clue who the hell won once they crossed the start finish line.

And I'm usually pretty good at that, but oh my goodness. That was amazing. I thought Blaney won the way the momentum looked at all. I was like Blaney one. So did Clinton. Clint still, yeah, he still today thinks Blaney one, I think. On that note, I saw Clint at the track. He is the only person that will still whistle all the girl to get their attention.

But he, I told him. Yes, I told him he needs to, he needs to come on the show to keep you in line. Can you whistle, Casey? I cannot whistle. I look, I'm looking at you as you're saying. I'm like, I bet she can't whistle. I can't whistle. I'm so sorry. Chloe can't.

Why can't you whistle? I don't know. I've just not stilt. Do you think that? What percentage of people can't whistle? There's got to be a percentage out there. I can whistle. Anybody else in this room?

I can't whistle. I can't do that really loud whistle with your hand? Oh, no. You can't whistle? My brother will deafen you when he does that. Seriously, you can't whistle. I can whistle. I can whistle.

You're the only dude I know that can't whistle, like, congratulations. He's never whistled a girl. Do you think coming to the line? Obviously, I got the cars tour thing. The Cars tour. Shout out to the Cars Tour. How about the shi-cautions? I'm looking forward to that.

The Schi-Cosions. That's actually good, yeah. But the Cars movie, I got that thing sent to me 25 times last night of Lightning sticking his tongue. You think Kyle had his tongue stick out? Did you see? The best part last night I thought was Kyle,

his race recap was like, you know, great race for us. Just came up a couple inches short. And Samantha responded. I've been telling you that for 20 years. Yeah. According to Samantha, we better hope Kyle's give him his tongue. Wow.

Wow. That was great. That was great. But I think we both, Clems and I both agree, you just need to get off Twitter. Nah. Nah. Why would he do that? All right. Well, don't forget to use our number to leave an audio message.

Whenever I read like, 704, 802, 9572. Keep those calls coming. Keep those impersonations coming. We would love to hear them. Moving on to AskDBC. Use hashtag AskDBC to ask any one of us a question. We will keep picking the best ones each week. First one is from Hamill.

It looks clear. Front Row Motorsports has gained Tier 1 status in the Ford camp, so has SHR been demoted to Tier 2, and will that accelerate their rumored exit? Is that a rumor? Because I haven't heard it. It's rumored that they're... I want to say exit.

it. Yeah. But they're definitely, I would assume they're still tier one partners right now, right? Correct.

Stuart Haas. But listen, if you see other teams around you getting promoted and you're not running well, a demotion or... Let's pump the brakes on us still,

though. We've ran two plate races, basically. Oh, yeah, no, for sure. I don't think... TJ sounds bitter about this front row motorsports recent success.

No, it's just plate racing. They left RFK. You know, all right, we're literally plate racing still. So if you can, if you can tell me, anything off these first two weeks on how it's going to be at Phoenix and Vegas, then I don't,

I haven't heard that Stuart Haas is exiting, and all I'll say to that is Gene Haas is a billionaire. He can do what he has. With a bunch of bees, and he can do whatever he wants to do. Tony was out the track yesterday, so it doesn't look like he's removed himself. I don't think Tony's very involved in the day-to-day stuff, you know, and I could clearly be wrong, but last I heard he was not overly involved in all the day-to-day stuff. Obviously, he said some things publicly. Put some pressure on people that have been there for a while that you guys need to get

the cars faster. And listen, fast cars fix everything. But when you look at their stable of drivers, they have four drivers. How many combined wins do they have in the Cup Series with these four drivers? They have one. Chase Briscoe, one at Phoenix. Yeah. Right?

So, and that's off top of my head. There could be more out there that I don't. know, but man, you don't have a lot of depth behind the wheel. You don't have a lot of winning success behind the wheel. And other than Harbock last year, having a few flashes of speed. Overall, they were pretty slow. Now you've got a brand new nose to deal with. So talk about going into a race with a lot of unknowns, TJ. You're really doing it with Stewart House Racing this weekend. Yeah, 100%. I think, I do think, I do think, I do think, I do think, think the Josh Barry and Rodney Childers connection can, I do think it has a, I do think they can

grow and become really competitive. So you think Josh Barry's as good as Kevin Harbett. No, I don't think, I mean, not right now. He's not. But do I think he can be, well, I mean, yeah, you never know what the ceilings are on these guys until they get in it. I mean, if you go by, if you looked at Jimmy Johnson's exfini career, Bush career back then, would you, would you say I wouldn't have hired him? Exactly. So, you know, you just never know, but. And that's what they're, I mean, maybe he does grow in it. Maybe all three or four of them do. You know, I think Chase showed signs.

I don't know what they were. I kind of think I know what they were doing when he was quick right there, but he showed, you know, he can get up there run. He was up there yesterday. So, I mean, I do think there's signs of growing there, but it's going to be tough with a lot of young guys. I think the biggest thing that they're going to struggle with this year, and we've mentioned this on here a thousand times, you know,

like Brett said, you got new nose, new front of these cars. you don't have a baseline. You don't have the Kevin. Like if the four of them go out there and don't run well, who should be? Like if they went out there last year and Kevin sucked and the other three sucked, you go, oh, we've got a problem because we know Kevin Harvick's a bad.

Like he can drive this thing. You know that veteran they can tell you. So now you've got, who's the most veteran guy of Chase? I guess. Yes, Briscoe is the veteran. Maybe Priest might have more starts because he was in TG. You've got more top tunes

This is a driver and he does probably. Nothing against Ryan Priest, but he doesn't have his stats suck. Yeah. His cup stats suck. He's a hell of a race car driver. He's a good dude, but his cup stats are terrible. Yeah. But so you don't have, you don't have that baseline to where we go, well, we know it ain't the car.

We know what ain't the drivers because this guy, look at Kevin, you know, so it's just you, that's what they're going to be missing the most, I think, this year. I agree with him. But you just can't replace that. No, it's in. And like, there's not that many guys out there. You know what I mean? There's not, you know, I don't have a place for a long time.

And they just have that. I mean, you just can't replace it. And it's going to be tough without it for sure. This next one is from Robert. With Joey Lagano's web gloves being found, can you recall any other driver safety gear or gear-related advantages being discovered recently? No. I mean, I don't think there's any way to really,

that's the first, honestly, gear-related thing that I've heard of that was an advantage. Yeah. I mean, what else could you do? Cudos to them for... Well, I mean, you did have a lot of weight in your helmet. Who did? I know. I don't use a helmet.

I don't think one would fit. But, yeah, I don't think so. That would be, that would probably be the closest thing you could think of. That's it. Guys would be filling helmet bags and stuff up pre-race with weight to get through and then pulling it out for the race. Yeah. That's probably the closest thing. Next one.

from Wayne. How come there was two, three, and four wide racing with the cup cars, but the trucks and Exfinity cars couldn't even run two watt? I think we talked about it earlier. And one of the other thing that played into it was we talk about this cup car. It's usually

stuck to the racetrack. It drives better probably than the Exfinity car. So we walked like Brett said earlier or T.J. might have said it. Like the Xfinity race last year, we all went down to turn three and almost were all wrecked. Everybody blew up, you know, shoved up a lane and we almost ran each other over. So you know, the cup car being a little more stable probably lended itself to this two by two racing as well.

If you watch like a Daytona race, like I think I might have said it before, if you look at the drafting lines, watch a cup race compared to an Xfini race or even a truck race. The cup guys, for the most part, man, they are squared up. They don't move a lot. They are very accurate with where they're at on the racetrack. You get some of these other races. I mean, tell me what exit of turn four looks like in a truck race from the guy on the bottom. You know what I mean?

That guy's coming up. Yeah, and then they come up, they slide up, and then when they do, they go back down. And there's always movement like, these cup guys are really good. And, man, and seeing four, I mean, they're getting more comfortable there, as you can tell, as well, because now we're seeing four wide. And, man, they're leaning on each other, and they're not lifting. Like, they're, like, oh, they're four wide. It's going to end.

Like, no, they're still four wide. No, they're still four wide. Down the backstretch, we got on the outside of one time, and I'm like, I think you're three, I think you're four wide still, but I can't really tell. And they were still four wide. And they, I mean, it was, there was a lot of great driving on display yesterday. Who do we have on our wooden idiot list this week? I've ended up with multiple people again for two weeks in a row.

I try not to do that, but I usually just have one, what an idiot. And I look down at it and I go, oh, yeah, that's my what an idiot. Like I really had, my leader of the week was whoever won't let us practice. And then my second leader of the week was Eddie Gossage for saying that the net, Netflix documentary is bad for NASCAR because of the cussing. What an idiot. It's, it's, it's, it's,

I think that, and I think that it had to do with the person that was featured in the, because you remember last year he had some stuff to say about Danny, I forget exactly what it was. Yeah, he did shade. Danny was the one that was primarily doing some of the cuss, most of the cussing probably in the Netflix. So I don't think there's a coincidence there.

I mean, I guess Eddie doesn't go watch right at our movies. Yeah. He promoted fights. Forever. I mean, come watch this race. Look at this fight. Then the Penaata thing happened in Victory Lane where they handed Daniel Svarez, this taco,

which I thought looked really cool and I didn't know what it was. And then he didn't know what to do with it. Pignatas have to be hit with something. Somebody's got a hold and let them whack the hell out of it. So that celebration was garbage. Put it in front of the six. Like you got Ross smashing. Put in front of the six.

We'll take care. You damn sure know how to smash stuff. Just throw it at the six car. But like you got Ross smashing. watermelons off his roof and you got Daniel like picking lettuce out of a pina off a taco. You know what had been cool. But then last night I was laying in bed. Here we go.

We're still going. Then last night I was laying in bed and I was like, how in the hell is Dale Earnhardt Jr. Not signed up by now to be a commentator for NBC. Like who. It's easy. They won't pay him with gift cards. Who at NBC? This guy was on Olympic broadcast.

He was at the Kentucky Derby. He's obviously at Daytona. I mean, he's everywhere with NASCAR. And we're not going to sign up the biggest name in this generation to be a commentator. We're going to let this guy just not commentate. So whoever that is, and I'm not trying to get in trouble and get fired, Dale Jr. I'm not taking up for you here because you're already rich, you're already successful. I just don't know how we don't have Dale Jr. locked up to be a broadcaster because as a

fan of the sport and Dale Jr., TJ knows how lazy Dale Jr. could be. He'd sleep before and afternoon every day back in the day, not now that he's got kids. But this guy works his ass off to be a historian of the sport, an ambassador for the sport. He watches all these old YouTube videos. He goes back through all these old pictures. I don't know of any broadcaster, maybe Larry Mack that's ever worked that hard around here. So somebody signed a little bit. Junior up. I want to hear him say slide job. Yeah, I feel like he is the

probably the most important person in our sport right now I would assume, like... I agree. And he's got to be a part of it somehow, I hope. Idiots. I don't even know who I had. Oh, I was going to... It's pretty light. We're running along here, so I'm not going to... I was going to call Weatherman and ask me if you had pants on because I was going to give the Yaleie's crew chief, I don't know what he meant to say, but he said like, yeah, so Weatherman,

it was... It'll be a toss-up, whether I gave it to Weatherman or if I gave it to the crew chief, because Weatherman does shove JJ. I don't know where they're running 20 something, probably 15, I don't know, somewhere back, not in a fleet pack. And JJ kind of runs up on somebody, so he kind of gets off center and then Weatherman dumps him. So that wasn't ideal. But then the crew chief goes on this tirade on the pit box and he says,

I'm going to go down there and talk to him at the race and he better have his pants on. The fuck does that mean? What's that mean? So I was going to call Kyle and ask if he had pants on this morning. But then the crew chief went down and tried to get into a fight with him. and I think he ended up getting tackled by a NASCAR official. Why? Why did he get tackled?

No, why was he going to? Because I guess he didn't like the push that Wetherman gave JJ through the trial. It was like, listen, if that's the case, let JJ. If JJ wants to fight, by all means, let JJ go down and fight. I don't think you could have crew chiefs going down trying to fight drivers. That's probably not a great look for us. I don't really, yeah. By my one idiot probably, I hate to say this because I re-raced with them in Xfinity,

but the Ford Exfinity crew chiefs I heard one radio transmission where they told Riley like yeah the two is probably really close you can go ahead and go after them they played it on TV oh did they and and every Ford ran out on the same lap it was like four to go so they weren't even close

and they're not only they I don't even know what they saved I don't know how much Riley was saving but like it wasn't enough and you can't tell you if you're not sure you can't tell you guy yeah no now go race you know maybe wait for the last lap to do that but yeah so every one of them ran out on the same lap. So their calculations are all accurate or equal, I should say. But I think the three major, we, so both Seag brothers, the double zero and the 98,

I'm pretty sure, all ran out at the exact same time. Wow. Who you got to, Jay? Man, it's, I don't know. It's been a pretty light week for wasn't as many idiot as I would expect here. But your teammate probably thinks somebody's an idiot. Which one? End of the second stage.

Oh, yeah. Well, I don't know if he would blame the driver or the guy telling him that. Yeah, I didn't. Because I heard the guy got cleared and then it was like clear. No, not clear. Then it was too late. So, no, I went back and listened last night. Actually, Lambert had it on his, on his, he gave me one of his earbuds.

And it was a weird deal where Coleman, and you could see the 22 is clear. But it's at a point in the corner where you can't really just hang a right and drive into the hole. So Coleman. It's just past the center of one and two. Yeah, the car's kind of light there. Clears them. but then he starts telling them, you got to get there, you got to get there, you got to get there. And like, you can hear the octaves go up and then it's too late.

And I think at one point you could see like right before they made contact, Joey lifts. Like you can see the flames come out. Like he realizes, oh shit, like this isn't going to work. But then they're too close together. Joey continues to get tight. Then he comes across his nose. But yeah, that was not ideal. At that point, the race.

No, yes, for a stage. I mean, live to be there the rest of the race. I would, I mean, that's probably, that's pretty rough to do that. That's probably up there. I would say that between that and the, lifting on the front stretch when everybody's jaded up right at the beginning i mean that that's too early for that man we have how many last is like there's just like and it's you know todd is not we just talked about he's not the most experienced driver there's just he's trying to do something nice but like

there's way better ways you do that in the corner you know you can't do that down the front straight you do it on corner exit like when everyone checks up in the gas when the corners then you leave the gap then he comes up on the exit of the corner yeah oh i want to go back real quick steward house racing um which driver of the four finishes high and points. I'll go first. I'll take Ryan Priest. I think Priest's finished his highest.

He showed a lot of speed last year. I think he's, I think he finished. I mean, there were a lot of races where you would, me and you would talk, Freddie after the race, and you'd be like, man, Briscoe's back there racing with Rick Ware.

So I'll pick Priest. Who you got? I think Priest's, I think Priest will be there, but I think it's going to be Josh. I do. I'll answer your question. I'm going to ask you a separate question.

So you're going to answer a question with a question? I'm going to say Briscoe. I'm going to say Briscoe. I'm going to say Briscoe. I just think he'll be a little more consistent this year. Hopefully they've got a little more speed. Over under 20th place. Oh, 18th for Ryan Preece.

Points. Are you saying over under for where they're going to finish in points? The highest guy, we've agreed you say maybe Josh, but is it going to be over under 20. I think... Is 18 over or under in this situation? Under. That's under.

I'm going... I think it'll be right there. I do think it'll be right on 20th on it. So we don't think Stuart Haasks might playoffs. Unless they sneak a win out somewhere. Because what do you think? Where do you think Brisco is at? Over under 20.

Over. Wow. I can't look at... I'm the only optimist here. No, in the drivers there. I can't look at any of them and say, okay that guy's been really good at this track I don't see any of that right now

you know priest will be good at the Super Cityways he's pretty good at it but I also I think Josh is sitting there soaking this all in Noah's the wild card to me he could know I mean Noah's I mean he's gonna be really aggressive he's probably gonna have a few more incidents

but I don't know I'm gonna look real quick and see where they were last year well while you're looking I just want to brag that we're only two races in and I've already won a DBC picture how do you know I'm gonna yeah we don't get Whatever.

It says Rick. It is there. Oh, it's on the bottom. Yeah. I'm looking for our sheet. But here's how smart Clipson graduates are. Look at the next piece of paper. Add reads below in his blank.

It's on the next page. It says below, Jay. It doesn't say on the next page. I'll change you to say next page next page for you. Jay, we got, you've got to dig up one of his old sheets for the DBC picks. Yeah. We need to be looking at it. We've got to find that.

Yeah, because we don't know. Because we don't know who we've picked now. We need it. I don't even know who I picked for me now. It's your two races in, seriously. Hush, I don't even know I picked the Daytona. You're going to make me hormonal. Oh, so you all got to keep track of who you pick for a race.

Can you be hormonal? Oh, man can't be a hormonal. Yeah, that sheet he had. I'm sure he's got it. Congratulations to Brett for winning Atlanta with Ricky Stenhouse Jr. Freddie, you finished second with Corey LaJ. I got third with Justin Hale. Oh, Sandhouse is up front, yeah.

T.J. I had a shot. I had that one. By the way, 22nd, 23rd, and 30th last year in points. Eric 22nd, Priest 23rd, Briscoe 30th last year. All right. All right. I got like 15 minutes, 20 minutes.

Who are we picking for Vegas? T.J. you go first because you finished last. Man, I don't know who I got. I'll go with... This is hard because Ford and Toyota both have new noses. We don't know what to expect. I mean, I'm going to go with Christopher Bell. Christopher Bell is off the board.

Casey. Bummer. Who Tyler Reddick tell you to pick? I know. Don't look at me like that. Redick didn't actually give me a suggestion this season. Wow. Yet.

Bowman. Bowman won there four years ago, right? Three years ago? No, 22. Wow. Probably his last win. Freddie? He's going to pick one of the two that I want.

But I'm going to pick one. the other one, so I'm not nervous. I don't know if I'm going to... He's going to pick the five or the 24. No, no. Oh, then I'm going to get the one I want then. Yeah. I don't...

I will take 54. Ty Gibbs. Wow. That's surprising. All right, you know, you're picking between these two guys now. Just pick your... I'm picking Kyle Larson. Okay.

Interesting. What can we expect? Swing for the fence. Yeah, I don't think we all know yet. especially with having practice, do you think that will help? Thank God. Yeah. Yeah.

I'm sure it'll just make it all the way. I mean, I'm kind of glad we had a little bit of brightest. Yeah. I think it's going to be good for the guys with new cars, new noses. You got on load good. Yeah. Yeah, you can't 20 minutes, right? Here's what we're going to find out this weekend, Casey, is who's in and who's not,

because you're going to have guys, full-blown organizations go out there and just miss it. Because, like, in the Cup series, you got the new noses. And the Xfinity series, you've got folks like Haley Degan and SVG and they're easy to be relevant at a Daytona and Atlanta. Like, we're going to find out if their cars are fast and can they drive really fast, really quickly. For sure. And some of these scenarios. And I'm excited. That's what I'm most excited about is seeing how that unfolds this weekend for these series and these drivers.

Because there's a ton of unknowns. So be fun. For sure. Be fun. Can't wait. Vegas. Vegas. You're going out there?

I'm not going to Vegas. No, I'm in Houston all week. Commodity Classic, big convention down there around agriculture. Can't wait. And then I'm actually not going to be here next Monday. I've got a procedure. I've got to do. So I apologize for missing next week.

Stay away from the goats, please. Tungston. Too much Tungsten. Stay away from. But I'll be back to Monday after Phoenix. I'm not going to Phoenix either. Before we take off, just want to send our thoughts out to Alexa Dalyone. She lost her father yesterday, Tyler Redick's fiancee at this point.

They're getting married this year. Actually, I heard about it right before the race yesterday. So unfortunately, Tyler didn't have a good day. He got caught up in that first wreck and was tore up a little bit. But just wanted to send our thoughts out to them. Tough deal. Obviously, I know. I just went through it.

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