Door Bumper Clear - 320 | The Kyle Larson Show & Rajah Caruth Joins

Episode Date: March 4, 2024

The guys are back from Vegas to recap Kyle Larson's dominant performance. Plus, the newest Truck Series winner, Rajah Caruth, stops by to talk his iRacing background, mentorship with Bubba Wallace, and answer questions from fans.0:00 - BS SESSION39:44 - SPOT ON SPOT OFF1:07:48 - REACTION THEATRE1:18:26 - ASK DBC1:27:41 - WHAT AN IDIOT1:32:17 - DBC PICKSAvailability subject to regulatory approval. 21+ and present in NC. Bonuses are issued in non-withdrawable bonus bets that expire 30 days after FanDuel accepts its first real money sports wager in NC. Unique user identity verification required. Restrictions apply. See terms at sportsbook.fanduel.com. Gambling problem? Call 877-718-5543 or visit morethanagame.nc.gov. Want more DBC? Check out and subscribe to the new DBC YouTube channel! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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Go, go, go, go, go, go. Door, bumper, clear. Still there, popper, popper, clear, clear, clear. Well, hello, everyone. Welcome to door, bubble, clear. This is the Vegas, post-Vagas episode, and half of us are running on three hours of sleep, Freddie. Half.

I think I'm the only one. TJ got home early. Roger has been here for a week. I don't know. I would say early. Earlier. Earlier. Earlier.

Earlier. I'm on about four to five. Which makes a difference, but. Who are you? I'm Freddie Craig. I'm T.J. Major. Spotted on that sixth car that did not touch the seven car. What's up?

Freddie Crats, Spotter, Bubba Wallace. Kyle Sieg and Ty Dylan. week and we have no Brett. Brett is, uh, I wish I can go into detail that what Brett is doing. Why don't we go in a detail? Because I don't want to. It's a bad detail. It's a bad detail.

He's in a bad spot right now, probably. Oh. Yeah, it's not good. He'll be okay. What's that? He's still in the country? No, yeah, he's in the country. Yeah, he's, he's, uh, he's having a, he's having a procedure done.

We'll say that this morning. Uh, but, uh, but, uh, On my right, replacing Brett in a much better light. Somebody I met, I don't know, when the hell did we meet? Probably when Bubba was in the 43. I don't know. Yeah, like 19 or 20 maybe. Yeah.

A kid that's really talented and he's been kind of bothering me about coming on here because I know he's... At first it was kind of a joke. I know he's not going to ever shut up is what the problem is. We were trying to delay it as long as possible, but I said if as long as you do something, good or bad, like something spectacular. And then he did it. That's the other night. So, Raja, welcome.

Congratulations on your first. truck series win brother thanks Freddie well or what am I supposed to do you're just supposed to say hi you're here now all right well you've had a pretty solid weekend so to speak tell us you know from the point the checker flag dropped to now what has it been like now that you've had your first win um honestly it just hasn't felt real you know like I had a lot of text right so that was that's been like a task getting through him but that's honestly a blessing um I mean it just hasn't felt real like throughout the weekend like it just was I don't want to say it was smooth because it wasn't easy but like all the stuff we prepared for like I felt like prepared for everything that kind of

happened on on Friday night so it just it all kind of worked out how many texted you at one point it was like over 600 is that why it took me two days answer me yes okay just check that's 100 yeah so I figured out like normally when you text a guy like you don't want to be in the first wave you just wait most yeah I usually I usually do but I want to get this lined up because I had to let yeah oh yeah By the way, shout out to Kelly Crandall. I love you, Kelly. I apologize.

I had text, I knew what Brett was going to be out, so I had text Kelly. So you cancel with Kelly. I said, it was funny because I text her and I said, I said, I'd love for you to fill in for Brett. She said, oh, yeah, I'd love to do it. Awesome. I said, the only way that anything would change is if basically Rajah wins or like Jesse Love, maybe. It would have been another one. But, like, that's it.

I said, Rajah or some other storybook win. And some bitch goes in Windsor race. I text Kelly. I was like, well, sorry. Oops. I said Raja. Sorry, yeah. So, but we'll get Kelly back on.

Brett's going to miss 14 more shows before. Oh, 100%. We'll have plenty of time. But, man, just this race, you know, I was on here last week, and we've talked about this. I don't know how many times until, you know, we always, you know, anytime you reach out or I'd talk to you about anything, it's just about being in position. And this was the perfect example. I thought, I watched at one point, you had a big run down the front straightaway on. I forget who the two leaders were, maybe Majeski and somebody.

And KV, yeah. And you started to look like you started. the fade bottom. And I was like, oh no, here he goes. And then he backed out. And I was like, okay, great. And then you just maintain that track position all day long. And then obviously very fast truck, Spire trucks have been money to open the season. But, you know, just talk about how that race played out for you. Well, I guess we will start from practice. Um, like it was, it was windy, right? And that was a thing. I didn't know how much it would affect the truck. So I've run more affinity races at Vegas than I have truck races. So that's kind of like my

baseline for most places. And I feel like the Xfinity stuff is they honestly drive really well compared to the truck stuff. And so that was something I was having to think about like, oh, this is not that easy, you know, in three and four, especially with how fast the trucks were. So, but practicing qualifying went well. And honestly, like, that was my, I mean, I started up front at, I think, Nashville last year. But besides that for my mile and a half stuff, like, that's the fastest truck I've had on a mile and a half before. So I just honestly, like, I let the ninth, I didn't chase the 19 and the three, like the first like let me just figure it out you know because it's it's one thing to like qualify well and practice like by herself but it's completely different like running off than they're wide open you know when you're up to

speed for the first time with like the Xfinity rep around the racetrack from practice and stuff like that so um and you talked about like you know when when KB and Majeski were racing and nick and majesky and honestly just was trying to figure it out right like you wonder like you know how it'll feel when somebody's on your right rear you know if you're even with somebody in the corner and stuff like that so honestly but just trying to let it come to me. And then when we lost a little track position at the end of stage two, I was like, I thought I was screwed because I was like, this is the furthest I've been back all night.

So I didn't know how it was going to drive, but I just kind of save my stuff a little bit and waited for the stop. Yeah, and it's the biggest thing that I've told you this before. I've told a lot of young drivers, like if you just put yourself in the top five and Rajas had speed all year last year and he made mistakes and we've talked about it on here, which I've talked about with him multiple times, and you cost yourself damaged the truck, and now you're not there to capitalize.

These other guys at the end of this race make all these mistakes, and here you are, now you just got to run down one guy, you know, was it Taylor, right? It was leading. So, you know, like, I think Kyle had a pit crew penalty. Yeah, there's a couple of counties sped. I think Sanchez sped. Like, they're just, people are going to just hand you stuff.

And then all of a sudden you're like, oh, holy shit, I just got to run this one way down. And it was crazy, like, for, so me and Ty waved at the same time to pit. And I'm like, well, maybe I can try to sneak up to them to the line. And we passed our hot, or me and Joey's heartmark or hard mark in the middle three and four. I'm like, wait, I'm going to miss it. So I was like, I can't sneak up to him. And I felt like I got to the line and I was like, I'm way over my lights.

And I looked at the little sheet and I was 44. I was like, oh, I was okay. But obviously he was. That first section reads a little slow. But there was like that whole line. Plus they moved the lines too. Yeah. But.

Yeah. I mean, the truck series is all about not beating yourself. I mean, restarts are where everyone most of the time does it. You got to get what you can, but you got to be smart about it too. And like Freddie said, there was two or three times that race that I saw you lift. And I'm like, oh, that's not normal for Rajah. I had a lift right here. Like, and there was one time on the front right there,

and there was one time on the exit of two where I think somebody might have been passing you. You were just like, okay, well, go ahead right now. I'm not sure. I don't remember who it was, but that was a very smart race. And you get rewarded for it. So, I mean, that's what you, I mean, obviously having speed, you ever already got that box checked, you got speed. Now, as these races go, if you keep racing with that mentality, you're going to get better and better and be harder to beat. So I think it was a very well-driven race and well-deserved win.

Thanks. Also, one thing that was interesting is, like, when you're, it's such a dogfight running from eighth to 20th. Like, if you, like, you can take any one of those guys in trucks from 15th to 20th run. and then you give them track position, and it's, like, impossible to pass them, you know? So, and honestly, everybody's pretty good, you know, and so, but, like, upwards of fifth, like, you know, it was pretty fair because it's, like, we're already kind of away from everybody, so it's like, I mean, when Corey got to me at the end of stage, too, I was like, well, let me not be that guy and chase him down, like, this is for second and third.

Like, if it's the playoffs, right, that's one thing for, like, the last point at Martinsville or whatever, but it's the third race of the season, right? So I thought that was cool just about, like, not giving take, like, you race hard, but it was also, like, pretty fair. That was interesting. You know, next time if you're the rules of reverse, he's going to probably do the same thing with you. You know what I mean? Like, I think that's a good decision. You don't ever want to, you don't ever want to, like, you make your own luck, right?

And you put yourself in a bad spot, bad things happen. So, I mean, there's nothing that I saw that I thought you could have changed for that race. I mean, I thought you'd do a great race. So let's back up a little bit. I, you know, kind of eye racing again comes up in your background. Where, where does Rajak Ruth come from? So I was born in Atlanta, but I'd say I grew up in D.C. because that's where I went to school. I mean, I grew up watching racing, but I did not, my first race was in a legend car and I, when I turned 17. And then I raced eye racing like for the year prior. So very late, I did, I've done

probably less than 50 total legend car races. Um, lay mom. You got more eye racing races than Denny Hamlin. I've like, I've done like, probably, yeah, like, over 2,500 high races. And then, yeah, I mean, just, I made the Drive for Diversity program with Rev in 19, and then was there through Legend Cars, Late Models, Arka. And they, like, gave me time to develop because, like, sometimes you'll see these programs, like, they'll give a kid a couple races or a year, then they're just, you know, going to the next guy, right?

And they, like, were patient with me for a little while, just to figure it out. And thankfully, like, my first year in late models, it just started kind of a click. and in ARCA like I had a couple of chances I think to win like I think about Charlotte I think about Kansas Pocono like I threw away those races and that honestly I feel like caused me the championship that year well Kansas you kind of got jammed up right there so yeah but like I think about Charlotte you know I think about um you know and then I we you know changed crew chiefs in the middle of year and some other stuff kind of went on behind the scenes but um and then last year I thought it was going to be like, I was going to be like, I'll be fast, you know, easy, easy, easy.

And it was not that at all, right? Like, the expedite stuff I did with Alpha Prime, like, especially like before they took the skew out, like, okay, I could run 20th, 17th, 15th, 12th on a good day. And then it was not that last year. Like, it was so hard because I thought it was like I could just do the same things and drive super hard and like not get bit in the butt for it. And I definitely paid the price a lot of times. think like after that first Kansas race last year is kind of like all right like let me just calm down

and it kind of yeah and I know I know this win is obviously monumental for you but for for more than one reason I feel like I feel like and maybe this is you know not the correct perception but I feel like you've kind of you kind of bet on yourself in a lot of ways this year like you know this was you know I don't want to say this might have been your last shot but it was I mean if you don't make it happen now it's not going to happen yeah I mean the way you see it like last year like I mean Grant makes go and makes the final four. You know, the McAnally trucks are fast all year and, you know, the other two DMS trucks, like we didn't run super good. So I thought I was really fortunate to get this shot this year because most people don't even get one, let alone two. So, I mean, the way I see it is,

like, same with the Hendrick race at Phoenix last fall. Like, even if that was it, like, I know that was my shot, so I do the best I can, like, not just in the car like that day, but, like, leading up to it away from the racetrack as a whole. So, You're definitely right. Like, thinking about it, like, you know, that was it for me. Well, you've got a first step out of the way, but you're not done yet. No, yeah. You've got a long season to go, brother.

I feel like there's enough stuff that's happened for him this season already for a whole season. Dude, I know. Literally, like, literally, like, literally. I can't tell y'all how, like, so Daytona, man, that was crazy because, you know, like, I got tight. I mean, and I look in the mirror and I see, like, Taylor's one of my buddies. And I look and see his roof numbers. I'm like, I look at the mirror. I'm like, holy shit.

Like, that does not feel good seeing like, you know, him flying through the air and like seeing him land, you know? So definitely a crazy start to the season. So we had, we had Bubba on here right after Daytona. And, of course, there was a big deal made about that. Which it really wasn't that big. I mean, I know it was when people started texting me like, what's Rajan and Bubba fighting? I was like, I doubt it. If they are, it's probably a joke.

But, I mean, and listen, we can give him, like, he gave you a bunch of shit when he was on here. right. We can give him because I remember that he'll be the first one to Victory Lane and that son of Bs into Cosmo or something hanging out. Yeah. Well, he called me

when we were riding into the airport. I totally forgot about that conversation. And he told me, he was like, well, this is the one time I didn't have my bus. I was like, oh, boy. Yeah. I was giving him stuff.

I was giving him crap about all day yesterday. I was like, real nice. Told the kid you'd be the first one in Victory Lane and now I got a video you watching on TV. From some nice assholes. Yeah. But really, I mean,

you've had to face some tough criticism from Bubba and from other mentors of yours that are pretty high profile. How have you handled that? And especially now that you finally reach your goal or one of your goals. Well, I think for one, I don't want to say I have reached anything yet. Like, we still have a whole season, right? Like, it's one race. And I'm glad everything kind of worked out. But like, let's talk about that in November, you know? But honestly, like, I think a lot of that stuff helps me because I grew up, like, playing sports like basketball, ran track, play soccer. So I work well, like, in that type of coaching environment. Like, that's how I get better. So, I mean, I don't take a lot of that stuff personal. Plus, I know the people care. And I, obviously, the people that are talking crazy,

like, they don't matter. They're not putting my trucks together. They're not supporting me. So it doesn't matter. Fair. Do you watch cup race? I did. What did you think? Well, I have to, like, differentiate, right? Because, like, I can look at, like, the SMT and stuff. You can't be biased towards the hinder cars either. The henser cars back on. Or inspire cars. I mean, the fire cars is the one looked just like your truck. That is true.

Yeah. Yeah, there is. I mean, it's done good. It was interesting because it's like, like I said, like whenever I watch the Xfinity and Cup races, like, I look at it like analytically and not like as a fan, you know. So it's interesting. Just kind of how the race went with lines and stuff like that. And then knowing, like having driven the cup stuff on the sim a little bit.

and knowing how it drives and seeing kind of, oh, well, that's why he did that. That's why he had a lift there and stuff like that. So it's interesting to watch. But, I mean, I like watching every race, like even if it's boring. If I were a student like you during that point in time, I would be like whenever I missed a couple of races last year, I watched most of the races on SMT. You can see, you know what's going on so much more. And you have a feel of what the flow of the race a lot more than just watching on TV.

I wish they would, so for that, obviously the cup stuff, y'all have like the actual steering traces, thrall and all that stuff. Yeah, it's way better than them accelerometers or what do you say, Freddy, how's that word go? I don't know. I can't even say it's super cellular. You want me to say a cellarometer? But I wish they would, because like obviously the truck's out of Elmore and like on the dashes, we have the throttle sensor or whatever. I mean, even if you put that on SMC, I feel like that would be, that would be cool to see. Yeah, I would, it's weird because you know how when you look at the truck and experience. stuff sometimes you get the you get you're like in the wall like or that and you're not 100% sure if it's a lift because they get down to the corner you're like it shows a little bit of

like the you know shows a little bit decal or something you're like in reality like yeah he's probably not lifting but yeah it was fun we were watching qualifying as tyler had smt up on his ipan it's like i like i like watching qualifying because you can see like who's lifting like through one and two it's like it's like uh straight line okay this is yeah or then it's like just a little 80% quick you know it's like ah that's it's it I do think I saw somebody post a tweet one time that they shouldn't do it exactly during live qualifying with the SMT stuff. Because it takes the excitement out of the lap. You're talking about like the overlay.

Yeah, like as it's going. Yeah. Oh, for the broadcast. J.R. Houston, I think, was one of the ones that tweeted that I saw. But yeah, he's right. And then it's really funny because sometimes you can see, you know, being familiar with SMT and stuff. you'll see, like, when they get to the line, then they're not lined up correctly.

You know what I mean? Like, so, so now the guy will beat him to the line, but the guy, it won't be right. It won't be correct. You know, it's like, what the hell happened there? Like, you know? Like, I like, I like, seen the tracker, but, like, having, like, the ghost car in there, I feel like is a little confusing. Because, like, for example, like, I went back and watched truck offline.

Like, they only showed, like, my back half of the lap. But what I wanted to see was, like, me coming to green. Yeah. Right. Because I felt like, that's where the whole thing starts. That's what I'm going to say, like, exactly. Like especially in the truck stuff like with how like water down the motors are and stuff and how drag it. It's like Daytona. Exactly. Like getting up to speed through the gears.

It's everything. Yeah. And that and I went back and I'm like, well, I felt like I did that pretty good. I would want to see it on TV and then they'd have to like you know. They're just so like those cars. So a cup race for, I don't know. For me it was terrible for you guys. I mean the so what? No, we couldn't get the left front lug off. So it just was like. I don't, yeah, it was stuck on there. I think they, I think it got overtight. The terminology of the changeer uses, like it sucks up too hard. Like it sucks up. Like he said he got on the gun a little too early and it overtightened it. I guess they knew like when the next stop. Because that was after, it wasn't like we started the race with that on there.

That's crazy. One little slip up like that. He said it was like milliseconds. Like he said he clipped the comb, you know, the center of the wheel there. And it like hit the trigger like a millisecond earlier than he wanted to. And it was overtightened it. He said, because he said he's like, we knew like that was going to be. we knew the next stop, we're going to have trouble getting that tire off.

And it's just, you know, it obviously ruined our day. But, you know, we were, we were okay. We were really tight, especially deep in track. We were kind of buried around 15th, 18th. And we were really tight back there. Maybe some track position, you know, you know how it is. Like, you get back in the field and it's just, you just, you just, you just, you just, you're tight as hell back there.

But I don't know, hopefully, I was encouraged by the speed, the Toyota's had the rest of the Toyota's, Bell had some issues. but Larson goes out there and leads 180 something. That's probably one of his top three best tracks now. I mean, he's just, something fits with him there and he's good. Yeah, it's, and I think William probably would,

at the beginning of the race, William was right there with him, and then I don't know, they got that gigantic garbage bag that I've seen flying around for 20 laps. It was like that peach they had at Chicago land, like 15 years ago. And apparently there was a beer can suck as well.

That's I seen Rudy's there was a silver bullet in his air cleaner. Nice. It was an orange, man. He probably, Orange. It was an orange.

Oh, Chicago, yeah. I remember a old modified guy. Yeah, that was Todd Ziggity. I've done some modified races for him, but yeah, that's what he's more famously known for. Not winning the modified race allowed, but almost hitting that orange. On the broadcast, they did kind of allude to more tire issues between lug nuts, cutting tires early.

I mean, did you notice any tire issues or do you think it was just really? I think it was all, I think it was like I think ours was just a fraction of a second mistake. Christopher cut tire. Christopher, I assume, just same thing. Like just... Bell, yeah, Bell, seen Adam say he thinks they ran something over

on the parade laps because it went down right away. And then, Busher, I assume, just a loose wheel. I don't, yeah, I'm not sure. I don't know. I didn't talk to him. I just, I just see the,

the way you look at it on camera, the Fox did an unbelievable job. You give him crap about the camera, whatever you want about the production. The camera work on that was amazing because you can see, you can literally see the nut fly off, the wheel fly off.

That's insane. And I mean, he hit a ton. I hope he's all. I heard said he was a little maybe took the wind down him or something. Yeah, he said it was, he had a ton on the radio. I mean, he broke the damn wall. Yeah, I know. For 20 minutes.

Yes. How about Noah? I mean, he's been. That's not a surprise at all. He. Very under the radar, too. We were, he was, I don't know what he didn't qualify. I didn't see his qualifying lap, but he must have made a mistake.

No, he just under did it. Underdrop. Yeah. Because he was fast in practice. I'll tell you why is because his teammate had already, oh, yeah. They were already down one car. so it wasn't, you know.

So he was fast in practice and then he qualified very badly. Yes. And I was like, damn, what the hell happened? Maybe he just caught a good lap or whatever. And then we fell back and we were, you know, 17th, 18th-ish. And we were racing with like Briscoe and some guys. But it was like kind of back and forth. Like it was host of our, like all the guys that finished around there.

And then out of nowhere, I don't know where the hell he started. But here comes, I said, who this is? I didn't recognize the car because it was wacky paints. Oh, yeah, it was. And I was like, who's that? I look up as a 10. I would go, all right, 10's coming. And he just, like, just drove through the whole line of traffic.

I was like, well, shit. Like, where's he going? And then he started right behind him. And he took off. And I was like, all right, well, maybe we get Noah here. And then, nah, that wasn't going to be the case. I didn't even know where he ended up in the top 10, right? Yeah, he was, he was really strong all day.

Complete opposite of the SHR cars, the rest of them. I've seen where, yeah, Briscoe was kind of back and forth. It was weird with him. There was one run. Yeah. They said, like, he was like, haul in the mill, you know, and then I don't know what happened. I think Chase just, like he puts him, it's like a 110% every single lap. And sometimes like it works out for three, he'll get three spots that way.

And then he loses five, you know, and that slowly. And I feel like at one point I saw Josh up there on the top 10. He got, he had a couple good runs there in the middle of the race. But I think maybe a late race restart or something, he fell back a little bit. But yeah, I mean, the 10 was definitely probably the best Stuart Hoss car. I feel like the 14 and 4 were probably. rate. I don't feel like they were terrible.

I feel like they were, you know, just outside the top 10, which that's not bad, you know what I mean? So the 41 was in a bad. It's going to be interesting to see. It's like I listened to the tear down or I listened to like half the tear down last night when I got home and

Jeff and Jordan basically fought the entire show. The entire part that I've listened to because Jeff is trying to get takeaways from last night. Yeah. And Jordan's like, I'm not putting any stock into what I've seen yesterday. It's like so but you know in a ways, right?

It's like nothing that we didn't expect. Well, let's go back to last week. You know, we made a comment. I said, I wanted to see what the front row cars do this week. Yeah, there was, yeah, 24. Yeah, so, I mean, you were a little more optimistic. And I mean, you never know. I wasn't sure, but it's just tough, man.

Like, it's not easy in that in that group. We talked about it before. Like, just the different, you look and see who's running 20. And this is to your point, like in trucks. in the X-Vinney series. Like, if you, say you run a race for Alpha Prime, and you're probably expected to run 15th-ish, 20, somewhere in that range,

to ask you to run 12th, three spots better is like, you know what I mean? It's funny you say that. So at Phoenix last year, like, I thought it was like, oh, it's like, I've been struggling my butt off to run 15th or 12th and that stuff, like, oh, it's going to be easy. Oh, yeah, and then like, I get in that thing

and, man, I'm racing the snod out of, like, Brett Moffitt, and Jeff Byrne, I'm like, and those guys are good. Like, I've obviously raised those guys over the last couple of years, but it took me like till stage three to get into the top 10, you know? And it just like everybody is like that much better, the higher you go. Yeah. It's just, you know, to close that gap, people don't realize. You know, it's easy to say like, oh, you know, you should be in the top 15 instead of 20th.

I'm like, yeah, look at the guys that finished 15 to 20th this week and tell me how easy it is the past them guys. You know, like, that's what we went up against. The first year at RFK, we were not very good. And then to gain the ground that we did to even be where we were last year was big deal. Big, huge difference. But like, dude, we passed a bunch of cars. And I looked up and I'm like, oh, we're going to be good here. And I'm like, oh, we're 23rd.

I'm like, oh, God. It took us a long time to get through there. We were really good in the long run. And any time it didn't settle into a long run, it kind of hurt us a little bit. And it was, we had a really bad pit stop. Not pit stops, but pit stop. We had the three who had a really good day. He was fast.

We had to come around him, and then as we would get stopped, the 41 would come around us. So that was a very, I mean, it starts with qualifying. You don't qualify good. You don't get your good pit stall. You don't get a good pit stall. Every time you come out, you don't get a chance. Like our picker is one of the better ones on pit road, if not the best pit crew on pit road. And, man, like, you don't need give them guys a chance to work, right?

You're taking away the advantage that you have there. So it just, it all starts with how you unload. That same thing happened to Redick at some point in the race yesterday, because we had qualified fifth, so we had an opening. Then behind us was the 10, and then it was Reddick. And it just so happened to one of them deals where Reddick was the highest running guy than the 10 and then us, so we're all coming around each other. And eventually somebody's going to get blocked in there.

And it was the 10 ended up blocking Redick in. But yeah, I mean, and you talk about qualifying. Like, we weren't very good to start the race yesterday. And same thing. Like you pass a bunch of cars where you qualify and you're like, oh, dear, we're good. And we're 23rd. I looked up and we're like qualifying makes such a difference. I feel like we're going backwards.

I feel like we're running 40th, and I look and we're 16th. You know, it's like, oh, all right, we're still, we're not bad here. You know, we're just got to get a couple pit stops and get, you know, getting a couple adjustments and maybe get better. But, yeah, qualifying, like, basically sets your whole weekend out. Like, that makes me thinking about two things, like, one for the most part in every series. Like, there's very few scrubs. Like, everybody is pretty good. Even if you look at the 20th-th-old scone.

If we, if we could probably say there's a handful of scrubs. You can say that, but you won't blow about. No, like, it's hard. Like, it's super hard. Well, that's what I'm saying. Like, it's, like, you can literally take, I'll refer to truck racing because that's what I've been doing. Like, you can tell, I don't know who finished 20th, but if you look at a guy where, like, Dean Thompson, like, I think Dean is good. And Dean can show up and run up front and, like, lead laps.

You look at Charlotte last year. You look at, I think Phoenix. And, like, he'll run good. And then you'll have a day when they miss it, you know, and then same for us. Like, I can run good one a week and then miss it another week. But another thing that I thought was cool. is like, obviously you play on Irishing for years and you just, you know, you just drive the thing on pit road and drive to the pit boxes and, you know,

turn off the picker guys and stuff, whatever. In real life, that is, like, nuts because, like, it matters so much. And obviously, Vegas and Phoenix, like, those are, like, the most slickest, you know, pit boxes. But it matters so much, like, how you lock the tire, how you get angled, having your wheels straight. Like, the picker guys are so good because, like, they practice to, like, every single input that you do to the car.

So it's like crazy, like how accurate you have to be. Yeah, I can't imagine like, you know, coming down that pit road with just people everywhere, especially if you're mid-pack or towards the back or something like that. Even worse than the cup race, because at least, I will say at least in the truck race and exfitting race, you get, there's usually some more empty stalls. But in the cup race, man, it's, it is like. And I think a lot. So I think our, which I don't know, what do you look for coming down the road?

Do you just look for your sign or holding or you look for your hanging? Well, so I usually, like, I know, like, what box is mine, so I know where I need to be looking anyway. Like, Daytona and Atlanta, I was pretty early, so I was already looking left as soon as I got to the line. But this weekend, I was, I was four, so I was all the way down. So I have, like, my little Avengers logo is my pit sign, so I'm looking for that. Like, I'm not looking above. Yeah, that's what our, so ours broke yesterday, I guess, because it's probably wind. Windy, yeah.

And Bob was like, I don't know. I never look for that thing anyways. I was going to say, yeah. It's too much to look at. I bet night races are. All the night races in the cup side, everything's lit up. Yeah. It's wild.

Exfinity. Anything happening in Xfinity race? I don't know. John Hunter. Chandler was really good again. It's two years in a row. Chandler probably should have won that race. Did they get into like a disagreement racing each other at some point?

Yeah. On the radio, did anybody hear that? I thought I heard something where they were mad at racing each other that hard or whatever, like on each other's doors or something. I mean, they're racing for the lead. I get it. You know. And it seemed like we're, everyone got the league just led the rest of that.

Yeah. What is your opinion on that? Because I was listening to Sirius this morning and they were talking about how you know, black flag of John Hunter running, he's a cuff driver taking away wins and strong finishes. I hate the limit. I hate that they have the limit.

Why? Honestly. I mean, how are we going to get better? I mean, I agree. Like, it's, I mean, I think about like when I was growing up watching nationwide races, like watching Danny, Carl, KB, all those guys race against. Harvard racing against like, I don't know, like Chris

Busher and Bubba, obviously, Legano. And like, I think about now, like, I only get to race against Kyle, you know, five times this year. Yeah. Same with Ross or Seabell or whomever runs in the truck races. I personally like race against the cup guys because I expect to get beat by them. So it makes me better.

It makes it that much better. Like, this was what we went through in 13 and 14. Yeah. And you're going through right now. You're running the same truck. You're a same truck to Kyle. stuff. And you beat them. You know what I mean? And that makes it sweeter for you. I mean, and Bubba

like Bubba will always go back and say the same thing about when we were running trucks. We were racing against Brad and Kyle almost weekly. It felt like, you know, and it makes you better. Like if you, and it makes it more rewarding if you can beat them guys. You're like, I know how good these guys are and we went out and beat them today. You know, even if it's not for a win, if it's

fifth and sixth or whatever it is, you're still like, okay, well, I beat Kyle Bush today. I kind of like the limit though because these guys are just going to dominate and it does give guys like, there's an extent to it. Like, how many of them guys really are around like Kyle that much in the truck race. You know what I mean? How many them guys are really up there racing with Kyle? Maybe two? You know what I'm saying? Like there's not a big group that actually gets to be in that position. Yeah, for sure. With Kyle. For sure. Like most of them

are in that group back there where they're four or five wide and the turn one most of the most laps. And you don't you're not racing Kyle at that point. You're doing the same thing. You know, you do normally. So it's just another spot. But if you do have if you do get through that group and you breakthrough. Then you actually have a chance at winning. You know, you don't have the Kyle that's, I mean, let's be honest, most of the truck races, Kyle runs, he dominates. Unless there's a pickoff. So that, so I, yeah, so I'll, I don't want to backstep, but I think, I wish it was more than five, but it may not be, like, maybe just don't let them race in the playoffs. Yeah, but they, yeah, they should have a chance to win. I want to see you win,

but I mean, but this week, I mean, you had a good truck and things worked out and you did beat them guys. But it won't be like that every week. No, it's going to be. hard, like super hard. Yeah. I mean, I do think I do like them being in it because I do think guys can learn from it, but most of them aren't learning anything from Kyle. Because only two or three of them probably race around him more than, you know, the whole race. Yeah, I just, I think that

it also just brings attention. You know what I mean? Like, if you've got Kyle Busch in the race, there's people watching because Kyle Busch's the race. There's sponsors coming in because Kyle Busch or Christopher Bell is in the race. You know, I think that, you know, I agree. I think it should be more. I think they definitely think they should not be able to race in the playoff.

I like the idea of no playoff races, no, you know, what is it? Dash for a cash. Or a triple truck challenge, whatever. You know, stuff like that. So you get to make sure those guys win those races. But if you take away the playoff races, how many regular season races are there? I think there's more, there may be, is there more playoff races this year? Because they added, so it's, I have to go to Martin's hole again.

Or maybe they just move around. I think it's different for trucks. But I don't think, I think it's the same number. It's the same amount. They just moved the races. But I think it's like probably, was there 22 races? Yeah, it's just over 20. So then you're whatever.

I think there's seven, right? There's seven, I think there's seven playoff races. So then you're looking at roughly 15-ish races. Yeah. Well, then there's the triple. Like, there's 10. Like, I think maybe like 10 races. You know what I mean?

Because like they're not going to do plate races. No. No. Yeah. Why? Those are so fun. I would definitely sign up to run that Daytona race one all over again if I was one of them guys.

My goodness. One thing, too, about truck racing I've learned is, like, like, I think about, like, the Thorisport guys, right? Like, all those guys are veterans. And so, like, like, I think about, again, Kansas last year and talking with tie after the race about, like, what I need to not do in that situation again there, or crafting or freezing, like, those truck guys, like, they're really good about, like, letting us younger kids, like, no, I don't know if I'm, I'm a grown man, but letting us know when we

mess up. Yeah. Then also like I think about so I'm not sure if y'all saw Kyle's post race, but he talked about we we at Pocono last year he doored me and he told me why I didn't I didn't know until this weekend. I was like well if I don't have that conversation I do the same thing on Friday night and I'm like well why did he just drive into my door it was like well maybe I don't do this on the second lap of the race so I think that stuff's really valuable. And that's fair and we've talked about this on the show too but you've had experience both in the experience both in the Finney series and trucks, and we've seen drivers like Zane Smith going from trucks straight to Cup.

What, I mean, do you see trucks providing more experience than Xfinity to prepare you for a cup? I don't know. I think that's too far me to look at right now, to be honest. I do think the Xfinity stuff, since I race them, when they had the skew rules and they took the skew out, I think they're a lot worse than dirty air. You can still, like, change lanes behind people, which you can't do in a truck, or it's really hard to do in the truck. And obviously in the cup stuff, if you try to roll to somebody's right rear, you will almost bust your butt.

So, I mean, I don't know. I think the bottom line is you have to, like, run well and win in what you sit in, regardless of as a truck, exfrey car car car car. I don't really know. Like, I think Jesse's going to do really good this year. I think Zane's going to do well. I think obviously Carson's doing well, too. But I think the bottom line is if you're good, you will figure out how to make the stuff you're going to go fast. It doesn't matter if you go straight to cup, if you jump a series, if you run all three. It's about timing too. Yeah, timing. What seats open up. What, you know, there might be a better cup seat available for you than there is an exfinity seat. Yeah.

You know, or if there's a really good exfini car, you know, you get in that. You know, you got to, whatever you get in. You have to run good. The equipment, you know, the equipment. For what it is. Yeah, if you need to get in, like, the better equipment that you can get in, if you can get into an A or B cup car, you probably get in it. You know, or do you go to a C Xfini car? I'd probably going to the A.

You know, I just think it's all about timing. you never know how it's going to work out. Well, moving on, we did take a fan vote poll on the DREDEMO media social handle, and it seems like Bubba had the most votes for the best paint scheme in Vegas. So shout up to Bubba. Freddy, I know that was all you. So congratulations. I might have to talk to my friend Matt from Columbia now. This is two races in a row with this black and gold car that have not gone well,

so we might have to get some new drip. Might have to switch some colors. up or something. The last time we ran the black gold car was Kansas and we cut a tire running second and probably knocked us out of the playoffs. And then now yesterday we didn't obviously have it's not good. I think it's obviously because you didn't cut your hair. No, well, I mean, how could it be? I don't know. I'm sure the wind worked really well with that too. You said you were rolling with it because it and it bit you. I know, but it's over. It's got to go tomorrow as soon as I can get it. We can do it right now. That's what I told Bubba. I was like, we should shave it on the show. No,

we should shave it on the show. I'd be down for that. I am not. Nobody's cutting my hair here. It's like when you have a, I'm sure you guys have out of the shot when, I forgot what her name is, but this really nice woman, she comes and cuts everybody's hair. And it's like, I'm not doing that. I have my own. We used to do that back in the day when I, I mean, this is like 20 years ago. When I worked in the shop, there was a woman that came to the shop.

And it was like 10 bucks or something. It was cheap, too. Yeah, she's the nicest lady. Yeah. Oh, yeah. All right. First and foremost, we'd like to welcome and thank. consumer cellular for being a big sponsor of DBC this year.

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Hard for us to stay, but easy to use. Spot on, spot off. Spot off. Spot off. Spot on. It was super fun yesterday to ride her out there. I am spot off. Damn.

Where do you come from? Moving on to spot on, spot off, which, Roger, I think you listen to the show. So you probably understand it a little bit. Okay, cool. Well, I'll start off with you. You will find Victory Alene again this season. Spot on, spot off. I think if I just execute a, I would hope so. I know, like, Bristol, Darlance, in Kansas tracks that I feel like I've got a good handle at. I know the trucks will have the speed. I just got to put a whole race together. The things that I will look for myself to improve the most on are at Cota and then Martinsville, Richmond, Milwaukee Gateway. Like, those are kind of

places I struggled at last year. So that's where I'm looking. at like I know I can go fast at the mile and a half. I feel like I have a good understanding for the arrow balance and like changing lanes and and running in dirty air and stuff like that, but I think I need to be continuing to get better on my short track stuff. So that's what I'm looking for. Like Bristol, like I said, I got a good handle on that place, but it's also a concrete track and you're running qualifying laps every lap because the tire is so hard. Is Kyle running that one? Yeah, Kyle's running that one. He'll be tough to be there. Yeah, exactly. So I'm just looking for myself to be better at Coda and, you know, Richmond, Martinsville, those places.

Running second to Kyle at a place like Russell, that would be like a win, though. For sure. No question. No question. Cota, I mean, Cota's different. That place, you just go and there's so many opportunities to make mistakes there. Like, just take yourself out, like, wheel hop. There's so many. I did last year. And I screwed myself out of, I think, a tenth from just nuking my tires, you know. Yeah, but if you go back to it now, you know, okay, well, I'm not going to wheel hop here. I'm not going to throttle up this hard here. There's techniques that you know, but it's really hard to tell yourself to do that when you're racing.

It's because you're racing. Right. You're like, I need this spot now. And it's like, really, no, you don't. Yeah, you can live for another. Raj are going to win again, DJ? I think there, I think it will. I think the mile to hassle will be a strength for him.

And like he said, if he keeps racing, you keep racing, like, there's probably going to be some tracks where you are the dominant truck. And that's going to be, that's the track that you need to back your pit road entry up. couple carlings because you're going to have elite you know what i mean like there's going to be so opportunity like it's going to be so inviting to go and do like oh i can do that and then that's the track that you or time that you back it up a little bit you don't push it into this doll you you take it a little bit easier on everything um but i do think i do think raja will win more this year what about you freddie uh yes of course you know i first of all he's sitting next to me i'm not going to talk about him i mean it would be the first time i reach over and sma pull raj off your neck

I mean, I had no doubt that he would get to victory lane at any point. You know, I've had multiple conversations with him about this. Like, if you just continue to have clean races and the speed you have, you're going to win. And that doesn't change moving forward, you know. Obviously, you got a very fast truck, very good team. I think they've won basically every truck race so far this year so far. So that's one in itself right there. And, like, you know, the race you've got to improve on.

And there's, you know, obviously that wasn't a dominant race the other night. You know, like you were kind of... 98 was the best truck. Yeah, but eventually that's going to turn around where you're going to be the dominant guy and something's going to happen and you've got to take it with a grain of salt that, you know, all right. Sometimes they come easier than hard, you know, whatever it is. But as long as you continue to run clean races, that's the biggest thing I've always preached to you or any young driver. Clean races gets it done. That's what I told Derek Krauss yesterday before his cup race.

I was like, the best thing that can happen to you is nobody have any idea you're out there today. He was annoying yesterday. We had to block the shit out of a few times. Was he like racing you? Yeah, we had to block him. And there was absolutely no way in hell that we were getting passed by Derek Krause. What spot were you blocking for? Oh, it was 40th.

No, it was like 30th. It was right around 30th. But yeah, we blocked this shit out of Derek a little bit yesterday. And then we ended up getting better as everyone on. But then he started following us through. Like he realized Brad was able to maneuver around and find some, you know, figure out how to make it work. And then Derek did a really good job of taking advantage of that. The guy that we were passing didn't lost his momentum.

Brad was getting on the outside of him. They got pinned down. And here comes Derek, getting a free spot. So he kind of figured out a way to get the spots. Yeah, he did. They, I think he's ended up like 28th, maybe. Yeah, he ran a good race. And he did he, I kept going down.

I went down to Joe White, who was spotting for him. I said, how's he doing really good? And the guys next time were like, man, he's doing great, you know? Yeah. And then, you know, they ran long on that last. And that probably cost him a couple spots. But, I mean, if a yellow comes out, they're heroes. You know, that's going to be probably a top 15 run for him or something like that.

So he did a really good job. I thought that that's exactly what he needed out of that race was to, you know, just be quiet. But yeah, to go back to Raja, I think he's going to win. I think he's going to probably win multiple times this year, no pressure. But you just, just like you keep doing, just clean races. Yeah. I think I still need to, like I think about like Daytona, right? I think last year for the most part, I mean, I had a run-in or two, but I felt like I wasn't terrible for, you know,

having a bad rap, but I'm on the field. And then I start the season with that, you know, so I definitely feel like I still got a, like, get a little bit rapport back, you know, amongst some of those guys. But, I mean, I can only do that. I can only control my truck. Well, that's the biggest thing you see. And it goes back to Derek when Derek was running trucks. Like, oh my gosh.

You know, I said, we're never going to be competitive because everybody's going to race us like an ass because you race them that way. You know, like you're overaggressive when you don't need to be and stuff like that. And I said the biggest thing we need to do. Like, we spent a whole year like just, you just got to get respect back. Like just if you race these guys with respect, they'll give it back. back and then we can move forward. But it felt like every week, like he was running into somebody.

And whether it was intentional or not, it didn't matter. Like, it just looked bad. And then you get that, it's kind of like Hosevar. You know, like, Hosevar's got a little bit of reputation right now of being, you know, a bit of a wildcard. And, like, until you get the respect back, that people are going to make your life miserable out there. For sure.

He still, I mean, I saw yesterday he was still super aggressive. Oh, Hosevar? Yes. Yeah, I saw a couple. Like, he's driving. He was getting into the corner really deep. Yeah. And, like, some guys, like,

But it's just some of these guys aren't going to be race like that. Like, it's not, like, it's not how you race them. So not saying it's a wrong move. Yeah. But it's just not somebody's going to get tired of it sooner or later. Shout out Carson, though. He's, he's helped me a lot this winter from, like, being the Wives program and stuff. Yeah.

Like, he ran, I mean, he was fast yesterday. He does a good job of moving. That's one thing. He's very versatile. Like, he knows how to find. He's not scared to make that thing go fast. Yeah, he's not scared to put it against the fence when other guys, like, okay, there's a 70-mile-an-hour wind here.

Probably not going to do it yet. Here's Carson, you know, but yeah. So he's, I look for him. Did I say he'd probably be, I think I said he'd be the best car for them there this year. Yeah, I don't remember. And, like, Corey will be consistent, but Carson will have, I think I said Corey would be the most consistent, but Carson will have higher high, you know, he'll be peaks and valleys, yeah.

On a similar note, spot on, spot off, a Chevy driver will win this week. against cup race at Phoenix. And just a quick note, they've won all three in 2024 and swept Phoenix last season. Spot off. Go Toyota. Yeah, I mean, I don't, you want me to spot on that? That's probably not going to happen. Spot off, spot off. Oh, boy. You can say you drive one. I mean, I would love for a shared one, but the fours have been kind of cracked at Phoenix like the last couple years. What does that mean? I'm not, I'm 41 years old now. I can't. Yeah, we got it's just very, very good. Oh, I saw you tweeted it.

I saw you tweeted like old Phoenix was cracked. I was like. Like cracked like fun or very fast. I need like a, I need a dictionary like for the. Why don't you tell Megan that? It's like. Yeah.

You look cracked today. No, that's not. That is not the correct use. That's not the good use. Nah, I'm going to make like a like a one feature. Yeah, I need like a shirt. Terminology. Casey, you look cracked today.

I do not co-sign that. That is not the correct. That is not the correct research. That was on that way. Just spot off. Yeah, spot off. I wonder, I always wonder when a manufacturer does like new bodies and stuff. When they build that spec, you know, because obviously year over year, right, they change spoilers, diffusers, the tire, et cetera.

I always wonder, like, how that much changes, like, the strength of the build, right? because they build it for maybe how the car is right now, but then it won't be the same in six months. So I always wondered that. So it's, and I think you've seen a little bit of this yesterday. Obviously, we have a new nose,

the Ford's have new noses. Chevy's are the same. You know, so they already know what to expect going there more so than, I mean, obviously Toyota and Ford can run a million Sims, but until you actually put the thing on the racetrack around other trucks, you don't really,

around other cars, you don't really know exactly what you got. And the Chevy guys do. They know, went back there, I'm sure they had similar notes of what they dominated the last fall with, and that you've seen the same cars up front dominating. So it'd be interesting to see, it's encouraging for me to see all the Toyotas up front for our season. Not all of them. Most of them, the ones that weren't sitting on pit road. But, you know, so that's encouraging to me, like,

kind of out of the box to see that much speed at a mile and a half, which is, you know, kind of dominant our season. So, but yeah, like, kind of similar. I expect Chevy to be good, but hopefully. You can't take your same setup when you have a new car. and expect it to just pop right in and be exact same because there is different downforce. I mean, the front and rear. So it's going to be a learning curve a little bit. I mean, I do think they'll get stronger. I think Ford's and Toyota's will get stronger as we go.

I noticed, and I mean, it could be complete coincidence, but it seemed to me like the Ford's were good on long run yesterday. Like the guys that were good on long runs were typically the Ford's. I noticed that 12 made a lot of progress. He was actually getting better as the race went on. The 10 was another one, long run he took off. There's a couple of Fords I realized that were making big gains at the end of runs. Did having practice or really a short practice this weekend help?

No, I mean, it's... It doesn't help us. Yeah, you're not really... The people, like, Brett, like, I get it. You know, you want more practice. But you can't change anything. So it's like, you know what I mean? Like, it takes...

You know, you can't... It's not like you're going to throw a whole new packet. You know, if you go out on load and it's not good. the time it's going to take you to throw a new package into there, you're pretty much using up the rest of your practice time. So, like, I get it and it might improve the racing a little bit,

but I just don't see it making a huge difference. Yeah, I don't know if it's going to make the racing any, it's probably making it worse. I was going to say. Yeah, because the good guys, the cars and teams with more resources

are going to know how to fix their stuff that much more better. And it's not going to get better. Now, I do agree with the more practice for the younger guys. Yeah. Like an Xfini or maybe a truck or something like that. maybe some of them guys could use a little bit more practice. I was talking about that yesterday with David Green,

former Bush Series champion. 1995, Bush Series champion. His son Austin is running some Trans Am races, but they're... I risk against him a legend car this year. He kicked out. I don't know what happened to him. I don't know. He's shot up.

He's like seven feet tall now. I don't know what happened. What David's been feeding him. But I was talking him yesterday because he's going to make some Xfinity starts this year at some of the road courses. And you think about that, like somebody that's never been in a Xfinity car before. you're going to go to, I assume, maybe Coda or some of Chicago, I don't know, and run 20 minutes of practice. And so at a place like Coda, that's like seven laps, probably eight.

Probably 80 hours of SIM. And then if you, God forbid, you have a problem, you know, like if something like this is a new team, who knows what the car build is going to look like. Oh, yeah. You know, so you have any issue now. You basically have no practice. So I don't know how you remedy that. But the idea that, like, practice is going to fix everything, I don't really, I'm not buying into that much. Yeah, I think as a driver, a short amount of practice is kind of fun because you're just like,

like, everybody's in the same boat, like, figured out, you know, even unless like your stuff is like, oh, well, I'm going to be out to lunch here. But I think you think about, like, mid-Ohio, right? You go and you'll have, you'll do maybe 10 laps and you go and qualify. I think that's kind of cool because, like I said, everybody's in the same boat. I think the idea of having a, like, a warm-up session because, like, I mean, I think about the COVID races, right? Like, you won't have an opportunity for, like, I don't want to say dumb, but, like, not good, like, oversights, whether it's, like, I don't know, getting something stuck in your throttle body or, I don't know, like, tungsten coming out, right? Like, anything.

Anything, literally. So I think practice is a necessity, but we don't need to, like, when I grew up watching, like, happy hour on Friday, like three practice through the weekend, I don't think there's a need for that. that right it's expensive it uses resources but i think like there's still even if you make the practice 30 minutes right you like you said freddie you can't you know you're changing springs right you can't scale the thing but maybe you can try you know different shocks or um stuff like that i think with a longer practice you know like 30 to an hour at least you can send your driver out there like you know in austin he's going to go out there and least you can just hey go run you know what i mean we don't got yeah you don't got 15 minutes here we got 45 minutes whatever go run for

a bit. Come in after you're done. You know, come in, you know, when you feel like you got a good handle on it. Now, you don't, you just don't get that opportunity. Yeah. One set of tires, like, that's it. I almost feel like practice should be enough for two sets of tires. Right. One to start on or then one, you know, you go run enough before you get a feel for it, then let them go out there and make a stick or run because that's, there's such a big difference in grip level, I think so, like a road course. Then old tires and new tires, that gives them an opportunity to go out there and actually make a mock run or a Q run to get a feel for it. So I think it would

maybe level the playing field a little bit in the lower series, but not in the Cup series. I don't think it's going to make it. I think it's going to make the racing worse. Yeah, we saw it at Martinsville. You know, like we went and tested Martinsville and all we did was get closer. You know what I mean?

Like did we just, we shrank the box to what, you know, the lap time difference from first to 20th or whatever. They figure it out. Yeah. Kyle Bush was a bad pit stop away from winning at Las Vegas. Do you agree? What race? Yeah, that could be so.

for two races. Yeah, his whole weekend. Well, you actually, if I looked, if I saw right, you cycled out in front of Kyle. Yeah, but I looked, I saw this little, I think it was one of Terry Ryan's, uh, stats. And like our, I was like fifth for my pit road stuff and KB was first. I was like two seconds lower. Yeah. But that includes fit stop, entry, rolling time and then exit.

But I think it was. What's penalty to get in the truck. He got, it was, uh, safety. Safety violation or something. So that's probably what's maybe slow to stop down. but I think you pit outside the box Oh he did pit outside the body yesterday. Slid, I've seen slide just barely out the front.

Yeah. I don't think, again, I think Larson, Larson and Reddick were the two best cars. Larson, man, I thought Larson, like Larson's M.O. kind of has been dominate and then possibly give it away late. Yeah. And I thought we were seeing that yesterday again. Like he was, I mean, the beginning of the race,

I'm like, we're never catching this guy. And then at like the end of every stage, Reddick would be there. Like, or we'd be catching him. And then I saw, I was watching and like my, the, my favorite part of the whole race yesterday was when we got to tandem with Reddick trying to push up. That was actually kind of cool. And I thought, I thought, I was laughing the whole time because I'm like, I can't imagine how mad people are going to be. I saw that. And then like, it was so funny.

So we got like, it worked. Yeah. I mean, it was working. We knew it was going to work. We tried it last year at Kansas when he won. We were trying to push him up. He was second. And they ended up getting a caution that he won the race.

But he was a little sketched out about doing it there. like so this time we just didn't even a choice we just got behind him and started pushing because we had fresher rubber and it was funny because we Bubba like you know just making sure and he wanted to do it again but it was like when we because we had fresher rubber so we could stay with that obviously their car was much

better than ours but then like because of the rubber we like we could stay there and just push and push and push and I think we got like we went from like two and a half seconds back to like less than a half a second back say like within and I really just didn't care what happened I just wanted to push him to the lead and then like go whatever happens because I know I know the internet would have exploded

my gosh. But so then, you know, we come out and we, we pit with him so that we can come out again with him. And he was obviously better. So he's driving away from us. Yeah. And then Bubba's like, once the pace calls off, put tires on his thing. I'll go back out there and do it again. And they're like, ah, we don't think we need to do that.

No, I don't think that's a good idea. I don't know. I think, honestly, I think Tyler messed up coming to the, with two to go or whatever. So it's funny you say that. So I'm like, man, because it, because obviously Kyle's going to take away the top. 100%. And I saw like he got a really good run off the tool until I'm like, he's showing his headlight.

So I'm like, in my mind, I'm like, I do that same thing of like peeking your headlight of making you think I'm a bite to the bottom and just go to the fence. And then I think Kyle already knew that. And he just took the top. I think Tyler should have gave up more early because he knew like. At the front half of the run. Yeah, like right at the end of the backstretch. Oh, like that lap.

That lap. Like you know if you go up. he's driving off of you and you're going to get to him in the middle. That's his, he wants you to get to him at that point because if he, that kills your whole run for the straightaway and really the next lap. And I don't think he really got back that close to him. So I think if you,

like Tyler got a really good run off of two and he got down the back. And I think, you know, if he ran the top, that was a perfect scenario for Larson. He knew he could run him up until he just stopped him. Yeah. And I think if Tyler backs his entry up and still has his headlight out you mean

well just backs his entry up makes the gap with the air gives him a couple car lengths and then he can throttle back up and then there guys were like we could do that and turn down so at that point you're turning down with momentum at least maybe then you can get to one of the sides of the other and make a move on him but if you run up on him

in the middle of the corner he's that's what he wants that's what he wanted to have happened and I think Tyler played right into the right into that right into that and I mean Kyle's literally going through the corner looking to that wherever that little screen is. Dude, it's just like the irising one.

It's so easy. Yeah. He's literally just opening the wheel up as wherever Tyler's at. He's just doing that. He knows once you get in that wake right there, you get close. You're done. And he said it after the race. He said, I just arrow blocked.

He's like, I'm looking in the mirror 50% of that lap. You know, like that's all you're doing. And that's all it takes with these cars. But I just think Tyler, you know, he needed to build a run to get to one side or the other. And that was, you know, that was all. I mean, that was it right there. I know Tyler is really good at running the fence.

But Larson's also really good at, you know, these guys and, I mean, the guys in the Cups series are good. Well, that's what I was going to say, too. So they were, I feel like they both were, like, top of the game, right? Yeah. But I think you can take, like, if you take 20 random guys in Cup, if you give them something, they can run the fence and do it really well. Oh, yeah. You better.

Right. You better be able to say. Yeah, exactly. So I was wondering, like, you mentioned that, I guess it was, what, four, three to go, and he had the runoff to him, like, I don't know what you do here, right? Because you can't go to the top because he obviously going to take it away, and you're not close enough to. try to bomb it on the bottom, right?

Because you can just, like, take it away from you or we'll chase you if you try to, like, slide them. So I don't know. How do you, well, you got to, I look at it, like the back stretch of Atlanta in the truck race. You know, with Bailey, we're riding there, running pretty good. We're top five. And I'm halfway down the back. I'm like, hey, you know, we don't have any real pressure.

The guys three or four, if you give yourself a little bit right here. And that way, when you get to the corner, you can stay wide open. And then they get side by side or something. You can play offense. You don't, because everyone drives into the corner right on and show. does that lift right on the entry and then everybody's jammed up so we were giving it early and then we could stay in a throttle more and you have a little bit of a run you can play offense if you want you don't have to take the run if you want but if the right scenario opens up

you can go so i just think that you know there's different ways to look at or maybe maybe tyler dives at the bottom maybe he can maybe get him i don't i think you're just guessing at that point you know like it's it's it's Tyler knew he caught i mean he caught him running the top so I think he would like to run at that. But like Roger, I said, you've got to know or be prepared that he's getting ready to take that away. One block. Yeah. It's all your momentum's done.

Yeah. One block. All your momentum's done. And it's over. And it's doing it. Coming to two to go or coming to the white, whatever it was. That's why I think you need to catch them on the straightaway. You know what I mean?

You need to time your runs. It's like, get there. You need to time your runs in the straightaway. The corner, you're done. But he's just going to take it away. That's what's so hard to is like, you run a guy down, running the fence. I'm like, oh, this is so much fun. I'm like, I'm getting there, I'm getting there.

I'm like, I'm here. I can't go nowhere. You know what's even more fun is when you run a 30th and you run a guy down doing it? It's been run the bottom. Then he tries to do it for the first time. Three cronies are front of you. And he's like, he's like almost a second off. And it's like, really?

Is that why Brad flipped Josh off or is it? No, it was for other reasons. Similar, but not. Just, yeah. Well, I don't know if I talk about that. Oh, spot on, spot off. Spire Mother Sports will win a cup race this season. I know we've lived too.

Dara, I dare you to say spot off. Yeah. What's your thing I'm going to say? You can have my spot time here too. What do you mean? I mean, honestly, so I've been going to Spire since like December 1st, right? And I didn't even know if I was going to be able to race full-time, part-time there at all because we didn't know what sponsorship was going to be or anything.

And honestly, the only reason why I'm in the truck is because of Mr. H. and engine cars. So going there, you know, showing up every day. it's been crazy because they've had to do so much, like the decal guys, guys and gals, the PR department, marketing department, legal department. Like, they've been working so hard, not to mention, like, the guys in the shop. And, like, they've had so much to do.

Like, they moved the fab shop down the street. I guess that would be the chat. There's a lot going on. A lot going on, right? But one thing that's been really good is, like, everybody's pulling in the same direction. And, like, our leadership is really good about making sure, like, we're all teammates.

it doesn't matter for a truck or cup. So I think for that reason, like, obviously, you know, we're not a Hendrik. We're not a Gibbs. But I think we can be that one day because everybody, like I said, is pulling in the right direction. So you're going to spot off. That's what I deserve. Yeah, spot off. Or spot on there.

You're a win race. Oh, you're spot on. I don't, I think I'm spot off on it still. Unless there's a, you know, obviously plate races. A plate race could happen, but I don't think they're there yet. A plate race could easily happen. Yeah. And like we just talked about, they were fast.

Corey, Corey used sparks, used good pitchers, you get Corey track position. And Corey maintained it. Corey was in the top five. You know, we were back, I don't even know where we were a mid-pack. And I looked up and Corey was in the top five or top seven. Like he had speedy. I saw him get up there and I'm like, ooh, this might be tough to maintain. And like a lot of the guys that took to that run fell off and he didn't.

Like he maintained it. And then, you know, host of our was pretty good. Dane obviously had problems early, so you didn't really get to see much out of him. But like we talked about earlier, running fifth is one thing, winning. I mean, we talk about how much it is to go from 15th to 12th. Going from fifth to third is like a monumental step. You know what I mean? So it takes a lot.

It's good to have speed, but you're going to have to step it up a lot to, you know, to win a race. And I don't think they're there yet. They've definitely taken steps in the right direction that the 77 car, you know, is much more competitive. than it was in the past. Obviously, they put a lot of time, they've put a lot of money, they put a lot of resources into making their entire program better. You know, they've obviously got the truck stuff figured out first right out the gate.

They've won all the races. Well, they should have that figured out. Yeah, they inherited. Yeah, an organization was already a winning organization. But, you know, but still, it doesn't mean anything. You know, I mean, you still got to have the right people in place. And just because the trucks are fast, I mean, you're automatically going to win. Yeah.

So they got that figured out. They come out, you know, they show speed at the first, you know, real, mile and a half race of the year. Hopefully they can build on that. I just not ready to say they're going to go out. What I think would really help them and is at the plate races and I don't know if I've seen it yet

is you get them guys all three and maybe the circumstances haven't worked out quite yet, but they need to find each other and show that they're going to be with each other. You know what I mean? Yeah. You know, like you see that at Talldega for sure.

Yeah, like you see Chris and Brad, when you see those two together, you know they're going to work with each other. Yeah. You know, they need to have some sort of system like that, which I think could be trying at times because I don't think Carson likes to run second. And I don't think Corey likes to run second. So you're going to, you know what I'm saying here.

So it could be interesting. But I do think they could find the victory lane at a Super Speedway, but I'm a spot off. Roger, you mentioned not knowing what this season would look like and how involved and how much Mr. H really helped you. What did that look like? How did he help you? So I guess we'll backtrack. So I met him for the first time, the 500 in 2020.

I do not think he remembers that. I met him in checking us. They do not remember. There's no way. But actually, we met last year. The conversation kind of started. We had a, well, our partnership with Sonoko for their 20-year anniversary. We wanted to do a race and stuff.

And so through Chevy, they kind of connected us all. And they were honestly really interested. and I was surprised. I mean, I haven't really done much this year. Like, why me? But they gave me the opportunity there at Phoenix, and it just, I guess, obviously, finished 14th, but I felt like I was going to finish 8th.

So a decent day, I think, for that car not running on Oval's that much. But I think they just, I guess, have believed in me. And originally they were only going to do part of my season, but getting to know, obviously, Mr. H., Ms. Linda, and everybody at Hendrick, but also their automotive group, like Jeff, Darrell, Chase, and they just wanted to support me, you know, so it's been pretty special just because, like, they don't do that for anybody, right?

Like, very, very few, let alone a young guy like myself, so I feel pretty, pretty grateful about it. Yeah, you're in a good situation. Get Ready, North Carolina, Fandul, America's number one sports book is launching soon, and just in time for the biggest call. college basketball tournament of the year. Right now, you can get $100 in bonus bets just for signing up before March 11th. Just go to fendule.com slash DBC and join today. Then you'll be set to bet when Fanduel is officially live. Soon, you'll finally be able to bet on all your favorite teams and all your

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Brace yourself. Oh, Lord. How many calls were there? Not as many as last week. Oh, thank goodness. So I picked a handful. I think we got five or six we can get to. Do a bumper clear. Casey.

Brett. Freddie. God, I love you, Hillbilly. This is Michael. You got the best podcast out there's some bitch. I can't fucking Stan Logano's smug-ass attitude. I'll see y'all in Darlington. I'll see y'all in Martinsville Falls. I got to go.

Swirm a meatballs. Love you. Meatball. That's a T-shirt. Where are you all thinking that guy's from? We're in the southeast of the United States. Wait, why does he say he's most out? Timonsville, South Carolina.

Love, love Simmonsville. Grow up a lot of racing at Florence a lot. Oh, boy. We love you. Thank you for being here. Yeah. I'll see you in this track. Come see that.

I'll probably see it Florence later this year, too. I'm sure. I'll be getting custom a little mile race or something. Yeah, for a gift card. Well, guys, I'm doing a bumper clear. Listen, Z. I'll show for a long time. Hey, wait, this is my homie Jordan, I think.

I was going to give the biggest congratulations to my little brother. Oh, yeah. This is my homey Jordan. Yeah, yeah. First career wins. The truck series. Oh, that's cool. And I always come up.

short a few times. He's probably made a couple mistakes. I've always been one of the ones that's kept his head up through the good times, the hard times, and sometimes the ugly times,

but never left his back, never left his side, and just wanted to keep congratulating him and hoping that he, you know, get, stay consistent and get a couple more wins for the playoff start

and then show him what he's really made of. And also, the most important thing that I'm calling for, Uh-oh. Is Freddy. I remember on Twitter, Raj asked to be on the show. And he said that he had to do something, which was winning.

Well, he's done that. So let's get him on the show, please. Well, yeah, you're calling in. Here he is. I'm sure he probably called before we announced it. What did you think he was going to say? You said, uh-oh. So we was on Irish last night, and he texted me.

He was like, oh, yeah, they made, uh, I did a little call, and I was like, uh-oh. hopefully he doesn't expose me yeah I mean we've been playing I racing for years so yeah that's my friend Jordan TJ's probably wrecked him I've probably wrecked him

Raja's probably wrecked him I was about to say I got to yeah I've given I've got a big list on the game I've had to slow Raja down sometimes on I race he definitely I mean everybody's talking about NASCAR's better than F1 then after this weekend

I mean Kyle Varson looked like Max for Staffing out there winning all those stages. Are you supposed to keep fans entertained? Max for Clair. Just kidding. F1 sucks. NASCAR is lit, as Clint Boyer would say. Did he actually say that? Yes. More people come to the start, finish line, and Carlos Sons had to celebrate a podium. Go Willie B.

That's crazy. He, uh, I don't know if that was like a directive from Fox, but so I know what it was. Clint said lit. Is there a joke behind it or something? Like, so Clint said, organically say that. Clint said lit, the race was lit. Kevin on the parade laps was like on our, on our radio. He talked to Bubba.

And he said, your paint scheme looks lit today, Bubba, floor it. You're too old to be saying. And Bubba said, you're too old to be saying. There's no way. That was, that's industry plant stuff. Last night. And he mentioned that. So I'll tell you later.

I don't. So what, on that note, you know, Max obviously is, you can't catch him in FAA. 23. seconds. Kyle Larsson might win. I mean, this guy was kidding. But yeah,

I know. It's a, I did see a funny meme or whatever you want to call it that, uh, it was a picture of Max winning and it was, you know that. And with that, the 20, 24 season is,

you know what I mean? Like that'll be whatever then people put it into the year. I see that after qualifying. It was like, oh, it was after qualifying. That's right. He's on the polls and that concludes your 2020.

Yeah. That's funny. But I mean, the fact that Larson obviously dominated yesterday's race in there is comparison like, oh, Larson. There's no, I feel like that's not even accurate, considering it's not like he's won every race this season. Well, no, and Larson, I mean, Larson, for NASCAR terms, Larson dominated yesterday's race.

But it was still a race. Yeah. Like at the end of both stages and at the end of the race, he had to hold off Tyler Riddick. Verstappen never saw anybody after they turn the lights off. I don't think Verstappen saw anybody after the qualifying. I mean, sandbagging and testing and practice and then, yeah, that's, you know. I mean, it was still, I mean, it was a good race.

I mean, it wasn't Atlanta. Well, back to the real tracks here. But, you know, I don't, it was still a good race. It was hard. I mean, there was a lot of handling issues. Vegas is a tough track. I hate when people compare F1 and NASCAR. Like, it's, it's, they're two motorsports, right?

But there's, like, so different. Like, I don't think it's, it doesn't do either one. I think the F1 is more along the lines of appreciating these guys, building that caught. Because there's no, I mean, listen, it's, the rulebook in Formula One is wide open. They develop a new car every year. And change it in the middle of the year.

Yeah, and change it a million years. Some of them throw away in the middle of the year and start working on the next year. And it's a whole different ballgame there. It's not even close. First non-plate track, I still call it a plate track. Sorry. Other year, probably had a really solid race. This was really entertaining.

Lots of people making mistakes. Lots of woes on pit road. Raja, awesome job. Look forward to watching you the rest of your career. Pala. Hey, thanks. Listen, we don't need any sensible callers like that. Yeah. What's that guy's problem?

I mean, that guy, I mean, he's just going to call in. Block that number. That guy's going to call in and be positive? What's his problem? Wrong show. Yeah. Why? Call it.

Give him DJD reload his number. They're friendly on that show. We don't like anybody. Oh, gosh. Hey, DBC, guys. We just got through watching Las Vegas. We just wanted to say that Ross Chesson, coming back from Van Dano lap to finishing for us was awesome.

But the race is kind of boring. Very boring. But that's all right because Ross is going to hang out with us along with Kid Rock at Tall Vegas Super Speedway in the spring race. So we've got something to look forward to other than this boring race that we just had here at Vegas. We need some more plate races like what we had. up on this guy.

And Daytona. That's what we're looking forward to. Let's go, Daga. So here we go, guys. You're going to give you the invite to hang out with us in North Park and Daga. You'll freaking find us, boys. I don't think they've had any beer. No.

Average Alabama citizen. I'm kidding. I'm kidding. I'm kidding. This is the problem with Atlanta. Now everybody wants that every single room. And they don't want it. They think they want it.

It's just like everything else. Like you get a little bit of something that's great and you think you want it every week and if we did it every week you'd find something to complain about. It wouldn't be... And I'm not spotting that shit every week. Good Lord.

I did see some guys in the lobby walking out of the hotel that were dressed. I mean, they were from the Talladeg infield basically. I mean, overalls that were, you know, USA and actually they stopped me. And they were having a good time. So shout out to them guys. It's fun to have fun.

I wonder, as Atlanta ages, if they'll move the lines to widen it out and when they'll open the motors back up. Nah, we'll steal it. I think they're going to do something to make the track race that way forever. It might be fun when it wears out, though. Yeah. So I know they sealed Richmond back in the day. They haven't done that recently, have they?

No. I don't think so. Hey, what's going on, y'all? This is Chad first time calling all. I'm a long time listener. Big Brad family to say, good job guys. and good job, PJ for, you know, come back, although we almost ended up like the 80s of the weeks.

During, I believe it was the first green flag of pit stops. I believe you called him queer, and he moved up the track and almost the 47 almost took us out. Oh, that was your fault of it. But whatever, we got away with it. And, yeah, good job, guys. What'd you do? No, literally, he hit that deal over there

and started sliding up off the apron, and I'm not, no, you don't clear a guy up at that point. Oh, this is leaving for the road. Oh, yeah, and the 47's coming outside, right as he hits it too. And the 47 had to move up the racetrack. And it got really close. Yeah, it was sketchy.

And then to make it known in typical 47 car fashion, next time we got back to him, we were passing. He runs us all the way to the inside wall and turn of three. And then again, later on we're passing him. And he just packs her on the left rear and just drives us up the track off of two. But, you know, I don't think of you. Are you saying Ricky's not nice?

I mean, I think every driver's made mistakes out there, and I don't think his, I don't think his sheet's, I think his sheets pretty long. It's not clean? No, I mean, it's not like, nothing happened from it. Yeah, was it sketchy and scary? Yeah, I would about close my eyes. But yeah. That's one thing that's, it's kind of a gray area for like the pit exit lines because I mean, I look at the cup guys on boards, right? Like some guys will, they don't pull up in the middle of the corner, right, but they'll be merging before the hash mark.

So that's like, hopefully now, obviously, watched. Did you, did you do, did you have, I'm sure you had yellow flag that stopped the other night, right? Did you notice the line was painted? They changed up. So I was like, wait. I go and fall on the black one. I'm like, wait.

Yeah. Like, guys were like, because you can't see, you know, you're kind of up each other's ass. You can't see anything. And then, like, the line would lead you into the grass. Right. So guys were like two wheels into the grass. Yeah. I didn't, I didn't read Seth's email.

But. I was following Thai and I'm like, wait, that looks kind of far. I'm like, oh, shit. Yeah, a little weird. Surprise. Surprise, yeah. Oh, thanks to everyone for calling in. Don't forget, 704-802-9572 is our reaction theater number.

Call us. Send us your thoughts. We'll keep picking the best ones each week. Moving on to hashtag AskDBC. You can also send us your question. on Twitter X, whatever it's called these days. Hashtag AskDBC. This first one is from Jordan,

with Raja winning Friday night. Max for Sappen being an avid sim racer and even William Byron coming from the Sim world, will we see more top sim racers and get opportunities? Do you think this is your buddy Jordan again? No, it can't be. I think he wants a ride. I know, I know.

He didn't tag Dale Jr., though, so I doubt. Most of them, Tagdell Jr. Yeah. I mean, I hope so, right? I mean, I feel like that's one of the beautiful things about sim racing is that, like, I was, I'm a city kid, right? Like, I didn't grow up going to the racetrack. I didn't have family or anything doing this.

So that's one of the great things about it is that that got me in the door, right? I'm not, like, very few people get to drive race cars, and I'm very lucky that I get to do so, right? But I think it's a blessing because there's so many people that can get engineering jobs. Like, you look at Keegan Leahy, right? He works at 23rd. 11. Eric Dr. Smith, I'm pretty sure he works there too, right? You have guys that get to the top of the sim racing level and can go work anywhere, whether it be in NASCAR overseas. I don't know that much about sports car racing or any car and stuff like that. But I think for sure the top sim races should

and will get more opportunities. It's just hard like because there's so few drivers. Yeah. And I think like, you got to be careful with it because like, okay, yes, William and Rajah, these guys kind of started out sim racing, but they still had to get in race cars and do something. You know, like they didn't just go to all right, you guys go to the Bush series like William is a very accomplished legend car racer. Raja went straight to legend cars. You know, like they still had to start at the, you know, kind of the bottom and work their way up. It wasn't like they were handed. Yeah, you know, and there's a lot of them like there's guys on there that, you know, you see that try it and they don't make it. So it's the same thing. I do think, but you see as many,

you see as many guys in real life try real racing and don't make it either way. So I definitely think it opens the door a lot more. I mean, obviously there's more notoriety to it as we go on with William winning and you winning and, you know, these other guys, like you said, are getting jobs in it. And not that that's going to lead them into a driving role at any point, but it's definitely opening the door for, you know, a lot of kids coming from there. And you never know, man. It's all, like we talked about earlier, timing. If something times out right and, you know, you meet somebody at the right time or some doors open and, you know, you're present, you get an opportunity. But I do think there's more, I do think people are looking at it more and more as a tool to, you know, educate yourself with racing and get better.

Literally, like, if I've, if I'm off by a year either too early or too late, there's no way I'm here. Because they did, I did the Ignite series in 18. If I was a year earlier, they don't have that. If I do it in 19, like it's COVID. So it's like, I got very fortunate. We got rain coming on Tuesday. So I'll slow your ass down. I'll get to you.

It's not on NASCAR stuff, unfortunately. Unfortunately, that's fine. We can run a sports. We do have a lot of irising players who listen to the show, as I know, because I got 20 million. I probably wrecked a couple. About Millbridge going on. That is cool. That is cool.

What is, you know, what advice would you give? I had to say it. Sorry, T. Casey's been waiting for this. I'm racing in Millbridge, Millbridge. What advice would you give someone who, you know, maybe wants to be in your position? one day. I mean, you just got to do the work, and I'm not saying that means it's going to work out for you, you know, but do the little things, show up early, be there late, and then

just pay attention, right? Like, look at the other guys that have, guys and gals that have made it to where you want to go, because I don't think it applies just to racing, and just care. And if you care enough about the thing, like, you're going to do, like, all the other stuff will come easy. Like, I don't want to say it's not anything special, right? But I just, I care about this stuff a lot. Like, I watch racing all the time. Like, it's really all that I do. So, I mean, that's really it.

Like, anybody can do this stuff. Like, there's nothing, like, special about me. Like, I just got very fortunate with timing and with opportunities that presented themselves to me, and I tried my best to make the most of them. So that's really it. It's funny you say, Milbridge. I see one of the question is, what's the hardest hit you've taken in the car? One of them was at Milbridge.

I flipped last year before Martinsville. Ow! I think I remember. remember that. Yeah, that was your last trip to no bridge. That was the last time I've heard. I want to race again this year, but I'm like, uh, like that, that micro stuff has helped me a lot, but that, that hurt. That hurt a lot. And it was a and it was a non-wing, too, so you didn't have the wing to. No. God. Yeah. That did not feel good. This next one is from Blair. What's the most obscure thing you've had to autograph? And have you had to autograph a baby's head yet? Well, At Pocono a couple years ago, I signed somebody's like beer flap. That guy's sitting right here. Why are you calling him out?

I ask you to do one thing one time and you want to pull him on blast. Freddie actually prefers the lower back tattoos, so we know it's not him. Yeah, so that was kind of crazy. A little bit lower as you recently. Did you know about that? No. Oh, you didn't tell him about Chantee? He's probably not going to show him.

I got it for Rajah. Rajah. seven last year a couple times. He went to Key West and got... You don't want to see it. He went to Key West and drank the Kool-Aid. I sat with, did you sign the kid Alan?

You know, big DVC fan, Alan, Bedgood. Did you sign his arm? Like, wasn't when this weekend? No, this is years ago. Yeah, oh yeah. And he's got us all tattooed on his. He's like, hey, sign my arm.

And I was like... Did he actually get that tattoo on? Yeah. He's got like a sleeve of tattoos. Like, it's like, I think me, Brett and T.J. are on there. I remember Lugano was on there. He's got a, he's got like a bunch.

I mean, respect NASCAR, we have the best fans and I'm sports, no question, but I told me he's crazy. I'm not, I'm going to say, like, having another girl man signature on my body for the rest of my life. I see crazy, like tattoos, some of the Bubba fans, too, are wild. They, I've seen one guy like me and Bubba will always say the same thing. Pre-race, like, I'll say, like, let's go to work and he'll respond, yes, sir. So I've seen two people have that tattooed, like on their leg, just in quotes, like that quote. I'm like, well, appreciate it. Love the support, but good, my gracious.

I can't believe you did that. I mean, Hamlet's got like a sleeve now. Yeah, I see that. I thought it was fake. No, man. So, Kevin. Oh, I saw that last time. I'm like, yo, I didn't know you? So he came up on the roof and like, and it was like really fresh.

It must have just got done. And I swear I thought it was like, you know, a lot of guys wear the sleeve to protect from the sun. And I thought he just got one that was like, it looked like a tattoo. I was like, I was laughing. I thought it was. And he's like, no, it's real. And I was like, shut up, whatever. And he's like, I'm serious.

Look. And I was like, oh my God. He's got like the Star Wars movie. He's got like a whole bunch of stuff up his arm. Yeah, that's real. Yeah, that's crazy. Yeah. I like tattoos.

I got a couple tiny ones. And you've already answered your hardest hit questions. Well, I don't think that was my hardest hit. Oh, oh. I blew it right front in a cannon car or Dover. That hurt. Oh, yeah, it's not the place you want to blow it right from. No thanks.

Honestly, so I wrecked at Bristol two years ago in a spire truck, and I got hit. I hit, like, flush on the door and it bent the center section. That was probably the hardest hit I. Did it spin all the way around and hit driver door? No, it was on the right side. Oh, yeah, hard, solid. Like just, just, just, thin everything. Yeah, that was hardest one I've had that.

The solid hits to the right side or left side are probably the... I'll never forget. Like, Priest's wreck scared me the other day because he hit flush the driver's side like that, and that's usually one that really... It's hard. And it took him a couple minutes to get out. I'm sure it knocked the wind out of them.

I remember, though, talking about Dover. Bubba, we were the first year we went there. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. We went and... Those canon days were stacked, dude. So we were there and we were running okay. And then I forget what happened. We got a tire rub.

And I'm like, run the top. Like it's like, like I had a halfway break or something. I can't remember. So there was like 10 laps to the halfway break. I'm like, man, just run the top. Take it easy. Get us to that break. So we can't let him.

And then we'll, you know, they can fix it. So he runs the top. All right, we get to the break. Fix it. They pulled a fender out. They said, all right, good. Everything's good. Yeah, everything's fine.

I said, maybe just run the top for like two laps here. make sure we're good. He's like, all right. So he runs the top for like two laps. I said, I don't see any smoke. Everything looks fine. He went to the bottom. As soon as he went to the bottom, boom,

he blew it right front and pounded the fence. I was like, are you okay? He's like, oh, I couldn't even talk. I was like, oh, my. There's not a good way to wreck it, Dover. Like, no matter what. And if you don't hit a wallhard, somebody's probably hitting you. So, yeah, Dover wouldn't want to be.

I wouldn't want to write there. And like, when I had that wreck, I had torn my ACL playing basketball like a week before. So that's just, yeah. climbing out. Freddie did that before. Playing basketball? I've not torn my ACL. I promise you.

The Freddie Jumpman logo. Yeah. Air Freddy. It's not really a jump man. It's like a plump man. It's like a hop man or something. Plump man. Junk man.

Junk. What an idiot. Oh, moving on to what idiot. Rajo, would you like to get things off? Do anybody want to call an idiot? Hmm, actually. Did anybody send you a really dumb text this week after you won? Like, do you think of anybody?

No. Nice and supportive. I'm usually not the guy who's like to talk show. You don't have to call anybody you needed. Let's go. Let's make a more positive life than you. Who was,

and it's hard to say best, but like who was either maybe like the most surprising or like the coolest text you got this week? Well, it was crazy. So Corey Hyne came up in Victory Lane. I was like, dude, like you didn't have to do that. Like that was a big deal, you know? Just because like you race so hard against those guys for years.

Like I've raced against Corey since Canaan, right? And Nick and Taylor and like, again, the respect for those guys was pretty special, you know? Because like I don't want to say I had run into people, right? But you have disagreements as you as you do naturally, like when you grow up racing against guys. So that was pretty cool.

I honestly can't think about it. What an idiot. Again, I would just probably say myself. I kind of, maybe you know who you give to me? Because I positioned myself very poorly. We come out of the elevator, right? And I'm like, oh, Victory Lane's right here. Let me shoot over here real quick. Oh, yeah, because that's where it comes out.

So I was like, I was like, I can just go over here real quick and he's coming. I can see him on TV. He's coming. So they stop him. I didn't realize they were going to stop you. I thought you were going to drive in. And so then, well, they stop him. Now I'm like, I don't know, 20 feet ahead of them. So I'm like, should I walk over there? I don't know if I'm allowed to walk over there. Well, then I didn't realize he's going to do a burnout from there to victory lane. But then I was like, oh, I'm like, oh, shit. I'm like, I don't stop your burnout. Keep going. But I was like, so you can give it to me. I kind of screwed up your your pros race burnout in the victory lane.

But yeah, that was a hell of a, I thought you were going to get in trouble. Did anybody get into that? No, I didn't mean to do it. I promised I did not mean to do that because I'm like, I literally, I'm like, bro, it's literally a truck race. Why am I over here? Because I was trying to do like, you remember the burnouts Joe used to do? Yeah, I saw you get a little speed up and I was trying to do that. And I just, I missed up.

So I don't know if everybody knows this, but it's a big no-no to screw the grass up before the cup race. I was like, oh. I saw him sliding. I was like, oh, no, he's going to end up in the grass. And as soon as I got on the grass, I'm like, I'm like, lift him. I'm like, oh, no, no, no. That's funny. Who you got, T.J.?

You got to call him an idiot? I'm trying to think of some instances that happened in either race. And it was a pretty clean weekend, I think. Yeah. And I mean, I didn't see any local race in this weekend or anything that happened. So I know the race that can. So I didn't watch those. So I have to just bust somebody's chops.

It's really not an idiot, but there's a friend of mine, so I get to, I have a microphone. He doesn't at this point. So, Daniel Hemrick, I love you to death. D.H. You cannot speed on pit road every week. And he has done it this year so far. Yeah, you can. Ross does.

Every race, every race, Daniel has got a pit road penalty. Ross has two. Really? Yeah, that's good. I think so. I didn't even know it. And somebody's, I've seen a note this morning with Hamrick has, he's three for three and speeding penalties this year.

So hopefully that's true. If not, maybe if it was Ross, Ross, Ross, you're the idiot, then. I think Ross is three for three, at least two. Yeah. So, but like, and you just, you know, we talk about how hard it is to gain spots. You put yourself that far, which I think he recovered and got into the top 20 at the end of the race, Daniel. But, uh, yeah, there was some wave rounds there. Yeah, there were two opportunities for wave rounds.

So I'm sure. I should really call. If you really want to call out idiots, the people that are responding to the video of Bubbo watching Raja when that race take the cake this week. Because some of them are. I've seen one. It was like this race is definitely. I haven't really looked at it. It was just, it was like, this race is.

definitely fixed. Why else would they send a camera crew with Bubba to watch the end of the race? I thought it was a camera. It's Amanda. It's Amanda's cell phone. I was like, damn, what kind of camera you got on your cell phone? It's just, you know, it's the same stuff. And then it's like, Bubba's trying to make it about him. I'm like, and then he's like, oh, Bubba told her to film. I'm like, no, he didn't. She's doing that because she knows he would

like to see it. Maybe share it. Like, it's just, it's just typical. Oh, it's fixed. Yeah. Yeah. Can't wait to see the script this week. Yeah. How's you like this one? So dumb. They're like, oh, well, it was good. You know, they just, it's, Freddie got his script and was like, oh, stuck logs, not damn it. That's why, oh, I go out Saturday. I'm only going to run about 20 competitive last tomorrow.

I'm going to go ahead and tell you, if there was a script in Freddie Redding and saw that, he'd have been hammered Saturday night. I was about to say he already would, like, all right. Oh, man. Let's make picks for Phoenix. And shout out to Brett. He's not here, but he did win. Oh, went out on a limb there, didn't he?

This week with Larson. Wow. I saw him pounding his chest on. Was he? Oh, so I picked the winner. Yeah. I think,

I think, TJ, you were first with Christopher. Yeah, you lost. Totally screwed Christopher. Who's your pick for Phoenix? I'll pick mine.

Who you got? Who's gonna win? You just tell me who's gonna win this week. I think the 24 is gonna do good. Because I know, like, they were obviously really good in the fall, but like as they,

as the track rubber, they kind of fell off. So I think, with a cooler racetrack, I think... It's going to be hot. Is it going to be hot? But compared to the fall, though. What was fall?

I mean, it's November and Phoenix. I'm telling you, when I looked at, Freddy's not going to like. I didn't want to ruin his day. I mean, it's hot, hot, I think. It's F. March, how could be so hot? Maybe it won't be.

Let's hope. 77. 77, that's good. I think the 24. You like 24? I think it's 24. That's not cold. though. All right. I'm going.

Oh, I go. I'll take Ross Chastain. Ross Chastain. Casey, you're up next. That's a good. That's a good pick, too. Who did Tyler tell you to pick? So, Brett, do you? So I got backup picks for him. Oh, you do have backup picks. He sent me his number one through like four, so Chastain's off the board, so I got another name.

All right, cool. I will take Blaney. I will. You know what? Rajah's on a good role this week. I'll take Billy Byron. who does breck all right so chastain's off the board Byron's off the board I think Blaney got picked as well right oh yeah so C-bell so he got his fourth pick either

oh it's all championship for guys wrestling for the fence earlier this year isn't he a little bit yeah he's trying to get a big lead what don't we do in the dinner because I have been not I don't know I don't know whenever you guys want I'm home when the heck is isn't Tyler buying it again

he's not buying he's buying but he's Didn't lose. Who lost? Casey? No. I did. Oh, that's right.

It's you, Casey lost a year before. Yeah. Casey, you should buy, you actually owe me because I didn't go to the year before and I bought dinner. I didn't know how that works for. He said he's got the car service. Casey owes me dinner. Okay. For what?

Because I didn't go two years ago. And that was, I was. That's your fault. You got to buy T-Js. Yeah. That's right. Sorry. Sorry, not.

Sorry. Um, anyways, what can we expect as we watch Phoenix this weekend? Punts of passing. Um, shaded spotter stand. Yeah. Hallelujah. Did you have to be like, uh, attached to. No, we were fine.

I mean, it really looks like the type of guy that needs to be tethered. It honestly, I don't know about you. It didn't, it wasn't as bad as I was expecting when I've seen how high the winds were supposed to be. Like that banner, that, that thing is a lifesaver. Whatever they put that that banner up on. You weren't there. I wasn't there when it was blowing around. Yeah, we fixed it.

Um, do you remember, um, a couple years ago at Phoenix when Lambert had that, uh, giant ass, uh, Yeah. Like bug on this. Yeah, we get that all the time. TJ usually ends up with him, the big like praying mantis or something. No, yeah,

Bristol. Oh my God. Terrifying. But, that one jumped on her. I don't know. I have always, I always go back to McMurray's quote on here on this show.

And he said Phoenix hasn't had a good race since 1989. I disagree. 1989, no, I don't even have a concept of that year. What was you were you born? 2002. Jesus.

I was out of school for two years. years. Raja, what do you think we can expect to be watched? I don't know. I always wonder, like, so last fall the seams had kind of grown in one and two. Like, really to the point where, like, the truck

it didn't affect it that much, but the Xfinity car, like, if you got your right side tire on it, like it, like, not on purpose, like, it really messed up your balance. So it's interesting to see how those have kind of grown over time. I don't know. I think with how that stuff drive is always weird to me.

Conceptually, like compared to the truck stuff and experience of stuff, like truck arms and stuff like that, like how it sits on the straightaways and how it works. So I hope it ages a little bit more. I hope that like the track surface kind of evens out in terms of grip level because I know like when they apply that stuff, it usually kind of hurts the original surface. So I don't know. Hopefully it ages a little bit more and those seams become like a little bit more of a factor too. Yeah.

You know, so hopefully we just, you know, it's good racing. The restarts are insane. It's the craziest restart we'll have all year. Oh, one thing. So obviously, truck race at Phoenix was crazy. Part of that, dude, like they moved the restart zone all the way to start finish lines. What do you expect to happen? The truck race was, you're the start zone was in the wrong spot.

Yeah, so that's part of the problem. Like, what do you expect? I think the Xenia race will be good. Good. I like the Xfinity cars. Yeah. The Cup race. to me it's going to be those guys are I mean not like there's really a lot of there's a ton of talent in the cup series and those guys don't make a lot of mistakes so it's going to be hard to pass expectedly like just like it was hard to pass at Vegas so it's going to be hard to pass Phoenix yeah there's going to be a lot of air blocking not quite as much as Vegas but yeah it's just it's going to be a tough race you hope you need to start off the weekend good last year

We had someone, I think Cole Custer had to qualify our car in the fall because Brad went home for the birth of his child there. And then we started from the back. I think we got all the way up to inside the top 10. So, which was, I mean, I'll tell you, it was hard. Like, it was tough to do. So it's going to be, I don't expect to see a lot of cars coming from the back and make it to the front. So qualifying is going to be a huge deal there. For sure.

Unfortunately, before we leave. I've seen another Zach Brewer passed away last night. I wasn't sure if it was confirmed. So, yeah, that's, I mean, I've known Zach for a long time, modified racer. You probably raced with him. I raced against him. Yeah, dash stuff back in the day. He finally won Bowman Gray this year.

Thank God I know that was something he was really, really looking forward to. I really don't know what happened, no circumstances whatsoever, but just, just sad to see another loss in our racing family. It's tough to see, man. I ran against him in 03 in the Goody's Dias series, and maybe. he was always fun to hang out with and talk to. Like somebody you could go up to and always smile and, you know, we had some good races with each other and really like, he was just fun to be around.

Like you want, like, good, genuine person. Definitely tough news to read this morning. Well, hopefully we'll see, see some people out in Phoenix. I'm still blown away by the amount of DBC fans I run into. Oh, every week. Pre-race or whatever. Yeah. You're off this week, right?

We're off. Two weeks or so, right? We got a, no, they were Bristol. Oh, that's right. Yeah, Bristol's coming up there. We got, you know that spring mountain school in, out in Vegas? So with Ron Phillips. So we'll go there, a couple of Chevy guys going out there.

And I got some stuff in L.A. You're going back to Vegas? Yeah. It didn't make sense to just do nothing out there for a couple of days. Like, we got comp meetings and stuff today. Yeah. He wants to get on and do some. That's what I said.

Like, you know, like, I obviously text Roger out the other day to come on the show. And he's like, yeah, I got some comp meetings. I texted him this morning, you know, the address and stuff, and he didn't read it. So I was on the way. Somebody's a little better. But he was coming from where you were working out this morning? Yeah, the tech center, yeah. So, I mean, obviously he's right back to work as fast as you can be.

So, man, we're pulling for you this year, and I'll be happy to text you if you do anything stupid, and I'll be happy to text you when you win. So good luck and congratulations again. Thank you for having me on. Yeah, glad you come by, and hopefully thanks for putting on with Casey. Brett's going to make you come back when he's. he's here. He's very bitter that he's not here, that he's not here, that he's not here. But just win again and we'll have you back when he's here. Thank y'all for listening. Don't

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