Door Bumper Clear - 322 | Tire Wear: Careful What You Ask For

Episode Date: March 18, 2024

Dale Jr. & Tyler Reddick join to break down the wildest Bristol race in years. Was NASCAR right to allow teams an extra set of tires? Did experience play a key part in who finished up front?21+ and present in NC. First online real money wager only. $10 Deposit req. Bonus issued as non-withdrawable bonus bets that expire 7 days after receipt. Restrictions apply. See full terms at fanduel.com/sportsbook. Gambling problem? Call 877-718-5543 or visit morethanagame.nc.gov. Want more DBC? Check out and subscribe to the new DBC YouTube channel! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

The following is a production of Dirtymoe Media. Still good. By one. So on number drive, man. It'll come to you. Fall asleep on the eight outback. Team coming top here. You come in time.

Here, keep coming about a three. Got him three rights. Go, go, go, go, go. Bupper, clear. Still there, popper, popper, clear, clear. Hey, everybody. I'm Tijam Majors. Spot of the Six Cup car this weekend.

I had the 41 truck, and I don't even know how to kick the rest of this show. I think you were busy. Yesterday. Brett Griffin, spotter for Richard Childers Racing this year, and I am no longer friends with Freddie Kraft. That's a lie. That's not nice. What's up, Freddie Craft, spotter for Bob Wallace and Ty Dillon this weekend. Full House. We've got the Captain of the Titanic here. And my good friend, Tyler Reddick is in the house as well. That's a great title. Yeah, how's it going? Yeah, I drive for 2311. You do? Denny's great. Yesterday?

Were you trying? I mean, God, Tiley. Half the day yesterday? Or just about... It was a lot of fun. It was a lot of fun. I had a blast. Hey, your car went to same speed for 80 laps.

It didn't matter what you were doing. No, I mean, the shame it was. I think we actually had a good car. We just, we didn't really get to find out. I think the 71 with the same speed when he hit you. Yeah. How? I can't believe you hit him, Tyler.

Did you count the 10 before you hit you or? Dude, it was very slick out of the groove. So, yeah, no hard feelings. I bet it for him. What's up, Casey? Hey guys, Casey Boat here, and I mean, I guess the captain of the Titanic also joined us today. So, welcome, Dale. Oh, yeah, he joined us today.

What's up? Yeah. I thought, man, with everything that went on yesterday, I need to come on the show. I'm just here to listen to what the hell y'all have to say. We're no better than that. I don't want to wait until, you know, it pops up on my Instagram feed. Apparently the download needs a ratings boost. They're the other way around.

we didn't we didn't court so we might have stopped by big I was on the way home last night Redick's like what are you doing I'll do I said you want to DBC tomorrow he's like yeah so about midnight I said let's do DBC I walk in I go there's there's six mic set up

why is there six and I said Dale pulled in I said fucking Tyler's truck looks just like Dale's and here he is so you guys both signed waivers right like we're not responsible for anything I think Dale could do whatever he wants yeah I don't know if probably doesn't need

waiver. All right. Well, there's plenty to talk about today, but I would say Denny Hamlin might have had the most fun out of all of you drivers and spotters. Would you agree with his win yesterday? Yes. He's probably the happiest today.

He's great and he's the happiest. How was the race Tyler off the other for the new? Oh, really? Oh, yeah. I need to name. Yeah, good. Ask him. It was a pretty good day. Yeah, so where do I start?

One spinning on the front stretch. That's where we started. Yes. At least you got the lead. Typically, yeah, I let a lap, yeah. Typically at Bristol, you know, typical Bristol race, which it was not. You know, that sort of flip works out for the most part. We definitely were all a little concern going into the race, what it was going to turn into.

You had a fire problems in practice, correct? Yes, I did. So, I mean, naturally, I was a little. a little worried, but typically at Bristol, the wares get better as you go into the race and the wear doesn't stay an issue. And yesterday's race was not that. It was a very different animal than I've ever seen at Bristol. Going back, I don't know how far, you know, in time at Bristol, it felt very old school to me. It was actually a lot of fun. I know we were lapsed down, but as a driver, I've never been in the next gen car and thought, okay, I got to take care of my tires. I've got to

be thinking 30, 40 laps ahead, right? Unfortunately, a lot of cars would just start crashing when you would save your tires. But it was an interesting race. So not everyone was on the same got a plan ahead here type plan. It's, yeah, like you could see, you could see the guys. I'm sure T.J. could see him spotting. Like there would be, like we just committed to, we're not going to the top. They stood out.

Like you just can't go to the top and you can't push for, it was 30 laps. you start to solve problems, such the problems. And then 35 to 40 is when somebody, it was Kyle Bush most of the time, but somebody would blow a right rear. But Kyle drove right to the front too. Yeah, but that was the problem. Like you could see it.

Like somebody, like you'd be on the bottom. It was like, you could laugh. Like you'd be on the bottom just cruising around and something like Harrison Burton was one. Austin Sandrick. There was guys that would just drive by you on the, the Rick Ware cars. I thought they ran the race the most fun way, at least.

Like they drove to the front and then go, all right, we'll see where we fall to. But like, But like you could see the guys like you just watch them go by. All right, let them go. And you'll see him here in about 15 laps. They would come right back to you, go back by him. But it was one of the craziest.

I think it was great. Like what we've been asking for is tire wear. And this was, we got tireware. I mean, I think you'd probably want it to last maybe a little longer than 30 laps. But this is what we've been asking for and we got it this week. I wanted to say, like, don't you think, though, say, you know, everybody's thinking, ma'am, this is too far. It's better.

Back it up a little bit. maybe we don't need to be this aggressive, but if you let the teams go home and turn around and come back a week later to run that same race, wouldn't they be able to make enough adjustment to get that tire to 80 laps to 100 laps? Rick Ware, you talked about them, they're up there running toward the front, and they still really didn't have some of the problems that the other teams did because they're probably nowhere near as aggressive on Cambers and all the other things. And so if the teams, so if Goodyear said, look, we're not budging, right? We're going to sit right here on this tire. We don't know what it'll do next time you come back. So prepare.

The teams could dial some of that aggression out of the cars that would make those tires work and last a little longer. So I text a prominent crew chief in our sport, somebody that's very well respected. And he, I said, if you went back tomorrow with knowing exactly what you know now, you could change the car, could you make it last more than 50 laps? And he said, not really. I don't think. And I think it was just a rubber issue. You know, like obviously, the They switched from PJ1 to resin, and it didn't take rubber. Like, you could see the racetrack did not take rubber. And that was the issue.

That's why the tires were wearing as they did. And he just said, I don't think we could change. It wasn't a setup problem. He said, I don't think we could make it last. I'm sure he could. You know what I mean? Like, if there's some way, you could probably do it. But when you see, you know, the Gibbs cars all being able to be more aggressive

and then take another organization that all were having issues across the board, like Pinsky, right? Pinsch you couldn't really push hard at all. The 12, the 2, all those guys are struggling. So, you know, you see these sort of organizational, you know, imbalances at racetracks where teams perform really good in some struggle, and we saw the same thing. So to me, that is settings.

That is an approach and ideology that that team or that organization had coming into the weekend. Yeah, for sure. I mean, the 11 and the 19 were unbelievable. I don't know. We were, at that one, that long run, when everybody pin under green, like we were the whole field is struggling like they're out there on ice trying to wreck and the 11 to 19 are still dicing through traffic

like there's nothing wrong yeah we were that was 70 laps on their tires as well and the crew chief that you said his car actually went near that went about 60 at the end and it gave up he said they ran 74 laps he said it gave up with about 10 to go yeah but i mean still denny's Denny had the best car and they're where they did wear some right rears early, which I think was easier to manage for Denny in the long run, because you can control it with a throttle more than a right front when you go into the corner. But, yeah, the 19 and 11 were just good. They were really good setup-wise.

And I do think if we go back there, I think teams are going to run probably 80 to 70 to 100 laps, probably majority of the field will be able to do that more competitively. And the guys figured it out during the race, too. Like you can see, like, they, like, we went. The first run was like 30 laps, we're blowing tires. then he realized, okay, we can't go up top as much as we want to. We have to run the bottom. And then you can see guys like, if you could jump a guy up top, you would go up there.

But even then, like, I swear to God, two laps up top murdered your tires, whatever it was. Like you can see a guy go out of line. Tyler can back this up. Like you go up to pass a guy for two corners and it would drastically affect your tires. If you can get a green flag cycle, the tires would last longer. Because when you run in a yellow, it does pick up the stuff that's put down that you don't really see. So if you get the green flag cycle, guys can go longer on. tires as well. So those early yellows just hurt. We've been jumping up a down on here for six years.

TJ and I have and Freddie for the last four. So you don't jump. Off throttle time is a good thing. It's a good thing. Chase Elliott said it this weekend in a press conference regarding horsepower. So as a spotter, when they're ripping around running wide open, we're not working that hard. When you change it up and they're off throttle and some guys are 80%, some guys are 100%, some guys are 50%. It makes us work harder. How much more fun is it as drivers? to do yesterday versus well you sucked yesterday that's why i still had fun i mean i was five laps down but i didn't care i was racing everyone from 20th on back like i was a lead lap car i was having knock him out of the way everything i was uh i was hoping at some point right like maybe i'd somehow

get back to front i was just trying to cause a big wreck at the end the race when martin and denny are racing for the lead i was like i got stuck behind two cars that were like right rear's recorded and Denny's trying to knock me out of the way and I'm like blocking him, blocking Martin, trying to stay ahead of him. But you blocked the ball. You don't block the leaders. So does you. He shut you up out of the way. Not the leader. I'm talking about the, me? Didn't he shoot you up

out of his way? No, we wrecked. We wrecked him out of his way. Okay. Why did Bubba cussed you out yesterday? Yeah. He was tired of me talking because we were we were holding on to a I don't know if I thought the tire went down but I think he just got into the marbles and I was like, pit if you need to, but we got to go. There's the like

10 laps ago in the first stage. I said, don't pit if you don't have to. Like, stay out because you're only going to lose a lap. Like, if you just maintain, I said,

but like, I'm like running through all the scenarios and he's like, please just shut the fuck up. I was like, copy that? Shutting the fuck up. I mean,

during that cycle, though, guys, from my point of view, it was one of the most chaotic things like going back to like when we're racing at the rain and Coda

and maybe a couple other instances. I mean, it was just absolute chaos. There was cars going out there that were like, three or four seconds off the pace. You're having, I mean, people's tires were, like, they would cord, and then they'd wear it through the first layer cords,

and then they'd about wreck, and you're trying to dodge them. It was, it was absolute chaos. It was a lot of fun. We were spotting, like, almost a third of the lap, a third of lap in front of you instead of just, like, right in front of you're like, you're looking way up here because you're going to catch that guy like that. It looked like a super fast arc race. On that green flag cycle, it looked like a video game.

It was ridiculous. Did you guys see all the dust? It almost looked like, did it almost look dusty? Yeah, I'm on top. Yeah. There was tire cords bouncing off. Somebody sent me a picture they were sitting close to the front row and like whatever. There's like a platform below their seat and it has just tire cords laying on it, like blowing over the fence, I guess.

Dale Jr. was in the race in Indianapolis where tires were a problem. I spotted the race in Indianapolis where tires were a problem. The biggest difference, Dale Jr. in the race yesterday versus that one is, When we were in Indy, they threw cautions to prevent wrecks. Yesterday they let it go. Yeah. I remember that race at Indy, and when you had a tire issue, basically you'd go down in one corner,

realize that you were at the cords, and then the next corner the tire blew out and ripped the whole left side or right rear or left out of the car. So, I mean, there wasn't like, you know, at Bristol, as Tyler said, you know, guys would go through the cords, and you could make a lap or two or hamfew. full of laps. I know I think George Barry ran 10 laps on the cords at the end of that race

a lot of guys did. Just putting around just trying to get to the finish. But at Indy you'd run 10 laps. Somebody was going to get into the cords and blow the tire of the next corner. It was like bam, bam. You know, and... We did lead. Yeah. So, I mean, it was pretty frustrating.

And then, so NASCAR starts throwing the yellows every 10 laps. And so that was my only fear yesterday because you could see everyone, you could sense everybody panicking in that first 100, 200 laps. Everybody on social media, fans, the media,

Goodyear, good year. They did a press guy and a press guy. We're sorry. We're sorry. Don't hate us. And I'm like, this is unnecessary, man.

This is amazing. Well, I think the difference, though, is, I mean, it seemed a couple of drivers blue tires, but, I mean, I did a great job of courting tires all day long.

And even in practice. And, I mean, it was very obvious when you court it. It was, I mean, immediate. But, I mean, you, I feel like myself and a couple other drivers pushed it like 15 laps on corded tires. Like, they didn't most of the time explode. So, I mean, I mean, that's a good thing. I think back to my next-gen test at Darlington, I'd run like 20 laps and then out of nowhere, it'd just become undrivable.

And it was because the right rear tire was corded. And I did that probably 15 times at that test. And I never once wrecked because I blew a tire. I just, I wrecked at the end of that test because I pushed it too much on that corded right rear rear tire. So I guess that's the only, that is a positive, right? Like I feel like for the most part, we can run this thing to the cords, and it's very obvious it's on the cords, and then it's ultimately up to the driver and the team if they want to pit

or not. Now, Dale, on your point with NASCAR throwing cautions to avoid wrecks, should they have been more cautious and maybe thrown a few more caution during this one? That's a tough situation they're in because they're out of tires. They didn't have enough tires to finish the race, so they didn't want to throw yellows because they knew people were going to come down pit road and put on tires. And then they definitely were going to run out of tires. So it was a tough situation.

They didn't want it to turn into a shi-go, but they also knew they couldn't throw a ton of yellows. Guys were just going to run through the tires in the pits. I was, me and you said, you responded to my tweet. I was watching the race about it, 200 laps in. I'm like, man, if you're a pit, this is what's frustrating about these races. There are some things that's frustrating about it. If you're on the pit box, you know NASCAR is going to alter their, you know, NASCAR, whether they want to believe it or not, they call yellows differently in certain races for different reasons, right? For different reasons, right?

Sometimes they do it for caution, you know, out of caution, right? And so I'm sitting on, if I'm a crew chief on the pit box and this starts happening, I'm like, hmm, how do they call cautions today because of this, right? And I thought that they would be quicker to throw a yellow. Like a car gets into a wall, car gets sideways, yellow, because we don't want to have blow tires, and we don't want to have this shit that happened at Indy happened here. And so I thought that they would be, you know, a little quick to do it. They were, yeah.

And then they realized, we can't do it this way. Well, not so much that, but for one, they gave everybody an extra set of tires, but they did not have any more tires on hand to give more than one set. So you saw them start to burn laps under caution. We would run extra laps under caution. Fans were picking up on that, really? On social media.

They're like, I went to pee twice. They said it. They said it on the broadcast. Yeah, they had been. They would run, they would hold the one to go. We're going to run two more labs. And I was like, yeah, they were blowing the fucking apron off.

They're like, all right, put the, we need a blower on the white line to blow the, apron off. I was like, when do we clean the apron? They did watch the truck race the night before. Freddie, I peep twice under caution. You probably have plenty in time. They saw Zane get down in there and that stuff and run me over. So like, we don't want that to happen again. So we're going to blow that off every time. And Freddie,

you, you expressed your frustration. I think Carson, post of our, you know, so that was my biggest, my only problem with the entire race. And I know, like, TJ, I asked TJ to go back and check this. Let me just say one thing right here. T.J. and Freddie are getting ready to argue.

No, I don't think we're not. I don't think so. This is going to be the best part of the show. We're not really going to argue. He knows I'm right and he's wrong. Yeah, okay. I'm just glad you finally have an opinion on something because Dale said you used to be mouthy and now you just shut the fuck up every time you come on here.

But I've already been in, last pig is I've already been to the holler once because of you idiots. But a host of our, host of ours has a prior issue, obviously. We're in the middle of that green flag cycle with the end of the race. He has a lot of issues. There's probably about 50 to go maybe and everybody's kind of trying to stretch it. There's no yellow. and some guys start pitting under yellow. Rodney was the first one to come down

on the pit road, or Josh was the first one to come down at pit. And there's some guys that everybody's starting to pit, and Josevar has a problem. And he wants a caution, which everybody wants a caution. T.J., how fast was he going? Which time? Well, when he was at his most dangerous point of this. The most egregious attempt at getting a yellow,

he hits the wall and then stops and goes about 35, 36 miles an hour. So less than pit road speed. He's on an ever. race track running less than pit road speed. No, because pit road speed is 35. You just said he'd run 35 miles an hour. Didn't you not just say that? Same as pit road speed.

You can't go over 35. He was above 35. So he is out there. He hits the wall off of two, which when I first saw, TJ said he spent a lap trying to draw caution, which that is not right. You should not try to manipulate the race by drawing a caution. Do you think he was?

That's according to the legend, TJ. Yes, he tried to drop caution. You saw it. Was he trying to draw caution? He wasn't, he didn't watch the thing. I showed him right here.

Oh, did you? Yeah. So he's clearly, but it doesn't matter. It should not matter. He is out there running 35 miles an hour and we're splitting him on both sides down the front stretch. He can't turn because he's got flat tires. He goes in the corner, washes up the hill. He can turn.

Well, he couldn't when he got to turn one. He could turn. When he got to turn one, he could not. When he tried to turn, he went up the hill. I would imagine because he came to pit road. He had to stop and come to pit road. He didn't want a turn. He was trying to cause a wreck.

But, okay. Shouldn't it have been a caution? No. So, no. No, no, you, because you have. Pittery? No, because you, well, you did it. You pit it three laps later, so of course you think it.

I blew a tire. That sounds like your problem. That has nothing to do with what I'm talking about here. The son of f***es out there running 30 miles an hour on a track that guys are running hauling ass. If somebody runs in the fucking back to him, he's going to get hurt or somebody's going to get hurt. Don't hit the back of them. They were cautious.

You've been driving on a highway and you're behind somebody and they move out of the way and there's something laying in the road. Can you see, Tyler, can you see if you're following somebody down the front straightaway? He's little. Can you see in front of that guy? Yeah. Nick, Nick's calling it for me. Yeah.

See? What's your argument? It should have been a fucking yellow. Oh, no, I don't agree with that. You're crazy. Oh, that's two against one. Now both of both of you are crazy. I don't, I feel like that, so Hosevar has the issue.

He can slow the car down. He can get left. He can get on the apron and get to pit road. And I think he didn't, you know, whether he was doing anything intentional or not, I don't know. But I think that he can get his car. off the racetrack so the race can continue and he should. Oh, for sure. Right.

And so I'm not going to throw a yellow because he can't or won't do that. So when somebody piles in the back of him, we're going to be okay with it. His problem. Okay, but it's not Tyler's problem when Tyler blows into him because he didn't know he was doing it. Freddie, we all did our jobs very well. You guys are out of your minds. Tyler can go to host car. This is not a, we threw a fucking yellow at lap 20 because vinyl fell off the 24 car.

But we're not going to throw a, we're not going to throw a caution because the guys out there running 30 miles an hour. This is fun. 35. It shouldn't be a yellow free of the one. It's not a bad president, right? It shouldn't be a yellow free than one. If you throw a caution in the middle of the cycle. Plus,

so what I thought you was about to say is you're enabling everybody to do this. Yeah. Then it's just going to become a thing. It's the caution flag is a caution flag. It is not a fucking entertainment flag. It should not have anything. There's a car out there running 30 miles an hour. I get, I get it.

He's trying to draw a caution. But at the same time, it's unsafe. You're wasting your time. I don't care. You're all right. You, your argument is good, but you need to be telling Carson this. Oh, I get it. But the fact that the, he put, not Carson did it to himself, right?

He's out there putting himself at risk. Yes. But he also put 35 other guys at risk. And if somebody runs into him as fast as they're going when he's running 30 miles an hour, that's not fucking safe. The caution flag is a safety flag, no? Freddie, are you more saying that NASCAR should have gotten on the radio at that point been like Carson.

I don't even, I don't remember what they said, but we preach safety in this sport. We're all about fucking safety. There is a car on the racetrack running 35 miles an hour when the rest of us are running, well, God knows what speed, and it's not safe. This Carson flag should have been out. It's close to being a legit caution, but I don't know. I just, I think the race plays out right there. That's just, it's a flow of the race at my point, like right there.

I understand what you're saying. The problem is. There were several. There were a lot of cars in the last 10 laps of that race running sort of similar to that same speed. But not that bad. I know, but I'm just saying like there was. Well, there was that whole run. And listen, this has nothing to do with the fact.

I thought we should have pitted 20 last four we did. So it really doesn't have anything to do with the fuck up. It has nothing to do with the fact that we were still out there. It's just like we've seen this. And I guess we ask for consistency. They're being consistent. They're not going to fucking throw a yellow during a pit cycle. That's consistency because we've seen it at Atlanta.

We've seen it multiple times. they're just not going to do it. So now you have to call the race based on the fact that you might as well pit early because they're not throwing a fucking yellow during a pit cycle. It's not going to happen. I also think they saw what he was trying to do and knew. I get it. It shouldn't matter.

There were less things that happened. You're putting everybody at the racetrack at risk when he's out there. Two things. One, if you don't throw the caution as soon as he hits the wall and slows way down, I'm on Dell Jr's team. Of course, you are. You guys signs our checks. I know. And then they need to be bigger.

But if you're going to throw the caution, i.e. Haley Digg in the week before for no reason. Like, he's hit the wall. He's very slow. Once you don't throw it there, then it is the driver and spotter's job to basically avoid the problem. And I think everybody safely, you know, did that. I don't know. That's kind of where I stand on the hole. Do you throw it or not throw it? But if you do throw it, after you let him ride around there for 50s. 15 seconds, which I think is how long you said he was out there. Yeah, 14 seconds to get down at one point.

Okay, so if you do throw it after the fact, you have to penalize him five laps. Because you have to set the precedent of we're not going to let drivers manipulate cautions. I thought it was when Denny parked on the racetrack at Richmond years ago. It was like two laps or something. Yeah, they gave him like a two-lap penalty, yeah. The other thing, too, is, I know we're getting into the Bates here, but you mentioned the Haley-Degan deal. I don't know about you guys, but I quit comparing the, the, the, the, the, the, the,

The booth, the choices in the competition booth, you know, between Xfinity Cup and truck, I don't know, I no longer like compare the two because there's two different teams up there. Different race directors, different opinions. They all have a different opinion on what a caution is and when should I throw a yellow, right? And so, you know, the trucks are going to truck and the Xfinity guys are going to Xfinity and the cup are going to do what they do. And so what happened on Saturday with Haley is an Xfinity deal, right? And so I don't really let that affect how I look at the cup races, but I mean, I think the

cup guys do it the best. I really do. That cup booth, they do a great job. The truck and the Xfinity is an opportunity for guys that are going to be doing it in the future to grow and move up. They're going to make mistakes. I'm okay if the trucks don't go exactly like I think it should, or Xfinity throws that yellow for Haley.

like they did, I'm okay with that, because that's where they're learning that, you know, that balance. And I was happy that they held off on that yellow for Carson. He's a rookie. He needs to know that this is not, you know, Pensacola or the short tracks that he, that he grew up racing on or the truck series, right, where they might have thrown that yellow really quickly, right? They would have given that yellow every time in the truck series. Would you call it, Brett? What was it, the truck series when he was in it?

I don't know what I called. You caught up the car. This isn't the car's host of our truck series. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, he ran a series for a year. But you're right.

It is, there's a danger factor. And I think it gets close to that. I think it gets close to the, I'm sure they were looking at it, getting ready to mash that button. But, I don't think they were because they're not going to throw a caution during a pit cycle.

Like I knew it. I knew it. I knew it. I was like, they're not going to throw it. Like they're not going to, I mean, it's not,

it should be, but they're not going to throw a caution. And that, and in my opinion, and I don't know how you guys feel. That should not weigh in on the fact of a caution flag or not. I agree. Whether the pit cycle is happening or not.

It's either a caution or it's not a caution. The pit cycle should not. But it's always been that way. I know. Because if they hit that button in the middle of it. That is not true. Like when I was going to races, the fucking caution came out in the pit cycle a lot. Like when I was a kid watching races.

It's like they don't want to have to do the math and figure out where everybody goes and take that 20 minutes away from racing. When 30 years ago, we had less. technology and did it. Scores. What's on your car? The wives were up there figuring it out. Can you imagine that?

Oh my gosh. Sign me up. I don't think you want to be a part of that. But on that note, you saw Carson Rec, right? Like, as from a team standpoint, what's your strategy? Tyler,

did you go blown by Carson at some point? I think he went around outside of him. I saw you go by. This was before I think he even slowed down more, but he like went into turn one. It didn't look like he got. loose but all of a sudden his car just jerked right and he clipped Blaney and about wrecked him. So the next car I'm like, oh boy, I'm worried the same thing's going to happen.

So he drives down to the bottom. I don't see the back of his car get loose or anything like that, but all of a sudden, boom, I get hit in the left rear and I'm already on a quarter of right rear rear and it about wrecked me. So I was like, what is going on, right? Like it seemed a little odd, but yeah, I mean, we kind of went to that green flag cycle knowing at some point, right, like someone like Kyle or someone's going to blow or lose the right rear tire, right? And it was going to catch him off guard.

They're going to spin out, bring the caution out. yeah that just that just didn't happen did that hold like at least for you i think you waited what three laps to we didn't wait we went the tire blew out i was out there for like 16 17 laps i wanted to pit about 20 laps before we did so i was like i was jealous of rodney and then they came down pit road and they were looked they had the most fun ever because they were they were through there i mean josh was flying

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Damn. Where do you come from? First topic, Goodyear should not change a thing leading in the Bristol Fall Ring. Tyler. I mean, I wish I had some. I wish I at least had a, you know, a couple of conversations with Billy and Booty about this. But I feel like the box that we operate within with the next-chain car is very tight when it comes to toe and

and camber and just all the settings. So I would love to say spot on we could keep it the same. But knowing those tight windows we have to be within, it may be. not be enough. I mean, we were already going out there with the mindset during our, you know, after a restart, whatever it might be. And I feel like a lot of the field was like, all right, I got to take care of my stuff. And we went from maybe getting 30 laps to 55, 60. And I feel like that's, I mean, that does seem short. But if we all know that and we have enough tires for it, right, we're all going to, I mean, we're going to split every, you know, the first stage and

the second stage, probably in half. So, I mean, it, it would be a much different race than we've seen, but we know that we can go plenty of laps past the limit of the tire when we're in the cord. So I think it would just look a lot different, but I think we could take it back, and everyone's going to approach it differently now, that we know that, okay, they're not going to throw the yellow for a lot of things in a cycle,

and we'd probably just split stages up more. Yeah. Well, I mean, there's a lot of things I think you could do. They should probably go back and test. They could probably add a little more rubber to this particular tire, just more tread. But if they went back to test with this tire and found a combination that was slightly better, you'd be tempted, if you're good year, to use that tire, right, to make a change.

You can't risk going back and having the exact same situation. And to Tyler's point, I think we'd want these tires to not really have these kind of issues until we get around 80 or 100 laps. And if we're riding a second and a second half off the pace and only getting 50 laps out of the tires, we've got to do better than that. So there's a lot of different things that I think they could do. They're going to probably test. They're going to have to try to figure out whether, you know, the resin had anything to do with it versus the PJ1. Do they go back and use the PJ1?

Was that aiding the tire, the PJ1, when it would activate and add grip? Was that relieving the right side tire by giving that less side tire more grip? Was that, you know, helping improve the tire's ability to pull? put rubber down. Why did the tire not rubber the track in? To Tyler's point about the variables that they can change on the car, albeit minimal, do we give these teams two, three hours of practice the next Bristol weekend so they can try to improve tire wear, try to make the adjustments to the cameras and so forth, to try to make some gains there. I think there's a lot of opportunity. The one thing that I think drivers have been asking for this,

drivers have been asking for a tire like this. Good Year has been asked, to be more aggressive they got aggressive we ought to applaud that the drivers know that this is probably a little more aggressive than than we need to be less work with the good year to make those small adjustments so we don't overcorrect that's my fear every time we ever do anything like this and get something's sort of close to what we won't this is the best short track race I've seen in a long time on the next gen if not the best let's not overcorrect let's not let's not be hard on good year and and force them to go back into conservative mode and bring

back a tire that's going to run 500 laps, right? My only issue with yesterday was, I mean, I know that to your point, it was the best rate, I guarantee on TV, it was amazing. It was not a lot of fun to spot because it was... I want to say it was a great race. I don't know what it was like to be there in person.

It was a great race on TV because of Harvick and Clint. They did an amazing job. Well, probably Harvick. Clint's an idiot. I know. They jumped right on top of what was happening and told us what the drivers were doing and what they were dealing with. Without that, it looked like, it would have looked like confusion and would have not been enjoyable to watch.

But they helped us understand, like, why things were happening in the way they were. The only issue I had with it yesterday was, like, it did not pay, like, we've all run tire management races. You're doing it right now with the late models a lot. Tire management almost didn't help yesterday because, like, we were, we could, we were, Bubba was like, I'm not leaving the bottom and it'll pay off in the long run. But the problem was, you never really got to the long run, because of, you know, you'd get 35, 40 laps. Somebody would blow a tire, spin out.

And so it's like, you're managing your stuff, and then it was like Russian roulette. Like the Rick Ware cars were a good example of it. A couple of guys, they would drive their whole ass on the front part of the run and just get to the front and then go, all right, we'll just see how far back we go. You know, and hey, but so there was, there was not, like, and normally, like, you would run late model races or whatever it is,

you run, whatever, 50%, 70%, and then that pays off in the long run because, you know, you've got the tire left at the end. It didn't matter if you had tire left because, you know, somebody's going to spin out and kind of ruin it. But I thought it was really fun to watch. It wasn't fun to spot by any means. It was fun early.

I said, we're back in Atlanta because they're two by two running two seconds off. And we're having a hell of a day here. But it was, it was, it was way better. To your point, it was the best, most fun I've had short track. It brought me back to old school short track racing. Yeah, I'm spot on. I think they, I think the teams will figure it out. I think we'll go back there and the teams will

figure it out and everyone these guys aren't dumb. They know what they're doing. You saw it during the race. The first runs we'd go 30 laps. Then it was 45 laps. Then it was a little bit like six guys ran 60 laps. You saw it during the race. You figured not so much the setup wise,

but the drivers figured out what they had to do to make it last longer. You know, like don't go to the top. Take care of your stuff. I actually enjoyed it because there was a lot of like the driver wanted to go faster and you had to pull them back sometimes. and I mean I felt like I spotted a plate race yesterday because I'd look at that lap time.

It would be like 80, 90, 80, 65, hey, slow down. Yeah. You know what I mean? And I thought it was a lot of fun to actually have to manage a tire for once. I can't even remember the last time that we've had to do that. It was probably, I don't even know. I don't know either. It's been that long.

Almost 20 years. It's been probably almost 20 years. I think that's why I told somebody last night that it's been almost 20 years since we've had to do that. We'd fire off at Atlanta and you ran 75. 80% for 8-10 laps because you knew at the end of the run you were going to have something for everybody. And we loved it. I guess my biggest thing here is if this tire had laid down rubber, would that fix the problem?

Yeah. Yes. It seemed like during, sorry. No, no, no. I'm asking. Yeah. It wasn't like super obvious, but it just seemed like the tire lasted longer the second time. Like that second, when everyone pitted and I came back out, like I pretty much pushed the entire

last bit and my tires never went away. It seemed like everyone was being much more aggressive when they came back out. And it visually, it's not much, but it did seem like just that little bit was a step in helping it. So for whatever reason. Because the team's belief was, okay, practice was bad. We have a problem, but we're not all out there at the same time. Once we get out there at the same time, we'll turn this track black, we'll be fine. And I don't know when this started eight, nine, ten years ago, but I remember Dover, Martinsville, Bristol, we would watch the track turn colors, they throw the caution, and then all of a sudden it's all cleaned off. But for whatever reason yesterday, I would just say to your point, Dale, I feel like they have to go test.

But if you go test and figure out how to make this tire lay down rubber, will that fix it? And if it does, man, that'd be awesome. Well, the tricky thing with the testing is, you know, we would go to Martinsville. You go to a lot of these tracks. And because you go out there and run 30, 40 laps, whatever group of three or four cars, you'll come straight off the track. and putting new tires on and go straight back out. And a lot of times what happens is you're not out there putting around picking up picking the rubber back up.

So you get this false illusion, you know, disillusion that, okay, it's going to lay rubber. And then we get there and then all of a sudden all that rubber that it was laying down is not anymore because we're out there pacing around picking it all up. My favorite part of this whole weekend, though, is there's all these super smart people involved on the team side, on the NASCAR side, on the Goodyear side,

and none of them knew this was going to happen. And that chaos is what made it great. I think we're just so blinded by the trends that we've always had there. It's like, okay, well, you know, we're going to get in the race. It's going to go back the way it always is. The funny thing was, yeah. Our whole group was like, yep, top's going to come in. It's going to turn back into an old-level.

Tyler, Tyler quarter tires and practice, would you run like 30-something laps? 30 laps. And I was like, is that a concern? They're like, ah, we don't think so. We think it's going to rub her up. It'll be fine. And then the first caution, they're like, all right, it's 20 laps. There's still pretty good wear here.

And then I think the next was like, like a 35 lap run. I think they ate blue tire. And they're like, okay, we're all, this is a show. Like we're getting ready to be in trouble here. Yeah, Brad said early. He's like, tracks not taking any rubber. Like he mentioned that early and we kept, you know, everyone had problems. Looking to tracks somewhat similar, such as a Richmond or Martinsville coming up, can we see?

Bring the same tire. I would definitely, I would not be as nervous about taking this tire to Richmond. Yeah, for sure. I think, no, that's a, the asphalt, you know, where is. the tire differently than concrete. Concrete, that brushed concrete, is a bit of a grater. You know, a bit of a cheese grater,

tireware at Dover and Bristol. Is this your pitch to get asphalt back at Bristol? Never going to happen. I'm never going to stop talking about it. I don't know why you hate concrete. I want to know why you hate concrete. Concrete's for sidewalks, man. Why did they go to concrete at Bristol?

Because the asphalt was tearing up. Yeah. It was like, I think those races are on YouTube, but there was a particular weekend where they had just recently repaved the racetrack, and it was tearing apart, awful. And they said, we're just going to put concrete down. They've never had a problem since.

You know, is today's asphalt technology better? Sure. Would it probably last? I don't know. We're about to find out with North Woodsboro, right? We'll go run that All-Star race. Holy fucking fast in Northwestern. Two and a half seconds.

Two and a half in the truck. Bring that tire to North Westboro. With Wilkesboro. Did you do the test? No, I think Ty did, yeah. I'll track that little two seconds fast. Yeah, two seconds. Wow.

And they're driving up the racetrack in the middle of one and two because they're going down that hill so much quicker. It's going to be wild. It's going to be neat. But, yeah, I think that, you know, I would take that tire to Richmond, no problem. I would be a little nervous about, I mean, Martinsville is probably fine. You know, you're just going to burn the rears off, which is probably a good thing. Yeah, that's what we want, right?

You know, I think, Tyler, the tire they had at Martinsville at the end of last year was probably the best tire that I've seen at that track in a long time because it did rubber the track in. Remember the rubber stacking up on the turns and stuff? Well, the tricky part with it was it would lay a bunch of rubber down and you would have somewhere that would go with it. But as soon as the track really, really rubbered in, now of a sudden you're running rubber on rubber and your tires would stop wearing. So I think that was kind of an unforeseen circumstance that came. with that. So that's the tricky part. You want the track to lay rubber. So you have, you know, your soft, aggressive tire, you know, rubber's in the racetrack, but then you've also got to somehow keep the tire wearing in that rubbed up racetrack. I think that's what, that's what happened in

that race last fall. Once it rubbered in, the wear kind of went away with it. Yeah. So, but I thought they made some gains, whatever they were doing at Martinsville and the approach that they used there this past year, that they probably could continue down that same path at, at, that, and maybe it's the same shit they're doing it, you know, at Bristol and so forth. But I like it, man. I think I love the good years even trying to do something different. They, you know, forever it felt like they were basically like, hey, we're going to build a tire that we know is not going to fail.

I don't care what you say or what your comments or what your thoughts about how it drives. It's going to freaking get us through the weekend. No questions. Yeah. You know, and so now at least we're, they're trying to, you know, forever, man, they were not willing to come off of that, you know, really, really conservative approach. But the tire connects the car to the ground. It is the most important thing that's going to affect what the race looks like and the

raceability and drivability of the cars. It is the most critical component. It's, you know, we talk about the next-gen car and arrow and all of those things. The tire is the number one part of that puzzle. And so finally, for good year to have, you know, to be able to, you know, open the book a little bit and make some changes and try to help the product is a great thing. We've preached about it on here. You've preached about it on DJD. The tire is going to affect the race better, more greater than anything else.

And we saw that yesterday. Like nobody's talking about the package. Nobody's talking about this car. The tire is the arrow. There's no, the tire is the, like that's what drove the race. What made the race great yesterday was the fact that the tire was different. It was the drivers and the tires. They talked about passes.

they're also, that's the most I've ever seen a car running in the back of another car in the middle of the car. Oh my gosh. So many times. So much of that shit going on. I was like, yes. Yeah, Tyler knows. Taking me back. Dale's adopted son Josh, run fucking Tyler over.

I mean, this was, this race had the most lead changes in a short track race ever, which was 54. So, I mean, that shows. I just remember leaving Martinsville to Dell's Point and Lee, my engineer at the time at Stuart House Racing. said this left side tire could legitimately run 3,000 miles. Three thousand to California and back. And then I got a phone call this past week from a former driver, buddy of ours. And he said, Goodyear is bringing the softest tires to the racetrack they've ever brought. And then we were talking about, but after, you know, 40 laps, the falloff stops.

Like you lose a second and a half, but you stop at halfway through the run. You don't keep going. Well, holy cow, hold my beer. this weekend fixed all that. You know how far we could go on a set at tire this week? 15 miles. It was 30 laps. That's perfect.

Oh, well, on similar notes, spot on, spot off. Experience was a big factor in a race center around tire wear. Dale. Yeah, I mean, I think that, you know, experience was important, but your car played a big role. I mean, you know, some of the guys that were more aggressive on cameras and so forth, no matter how smart they were, how talented they were, there's not much that you can do with that. If your car just will not, you know, get to lap 45 or get to lap 50, there's nothing you can do about that.

So, I mean, some guys out there were in a bad situation and there was no way out. Other, you know, teams and drivers like the Gibbs cars, you could see that their cars were assisting in that whole process, right? and so I think it's a good balance between experience and the car itself and the setup of the car. I thought it was very telling Danny. I thought Danny was the best car, like drop of the green. He drove to the front. Like I thought he was the best car. Then we started having the tire issues.

And he kind of maintained, but he was able to. Well, he wrecked. Yeah, for sure. He was one of the conscious. He cut two tires. I didn't cut him, but like he was probably corded tires because he would drive a couple times he was up front. He would, you know, landslide to the back. But he was able, he was one of the guys.

was able to drive. Like he restarted behind us one restarting. We were just committed. We're going to run the bottom and just save, save, save. And he drove to about seventh or eighth and was it. But later in the race, you can see he was just in tire management mode. Like Ty Gibbs was very aggressive all day. Bell was pretty aggressive.

Like they pressured Denny. And Denny's like, all right, get like just rolled up one corner, the two of them go, get back to the bottom and rode. And then 10 laps later, he's driving back by them guys because they're hanging off for dear life. So I think experience definitely played a huge factor in that. But for to Dale's point, the car made a, I think the car was a bigger difference, but you can see the guys that knew, I got to make this shit last forever.

And Danny, Danny did the best job. Danny and Martin. Martin was all, Martin was just as good as Danny, I thought. But the two of them, in that green flag cycle, we're all, like, there's 40 cars or 34 cars out there hanging on for dear life. And Danny and Martin are just cutting through traffic at 50, 60 laps on tires. You were right behind him, I know. I was right in front of them trying to hang on for dear life because I'd play.

it really, really safe, right? I'm like, I'm in great shape. And I, like I said, got stuck behind two cars on cord of tires. Next thing I know, Denny's beating on my back bumper. I'm like, I'm trying to run away, get away from them because I saved my tires. But, yeah, it was interesting to see how it. I may never get to say this again because it's not 1885. And Harry Gant's not out there in his 50s winning races.

The top three guys are all 40 years older, older. That's what I was getting ready to say. So, fuck, yeah, experience about it. Yeah. I was getting ready to say that. Those three guys up front have driven the cars like what, it back in the day. Right. I was going to say, you know, Denny comes out of late model stocks where tire management is critical and True X is a modified guy where tire management is even more

critical. I would say modifies are beating the tires up worse than any car we have on the ovals. So you look at guys that never ran any of that, you know, any kind of old school short track stuff and those guys are really struggling. But to your point of the car mattering, Josh is the same thing. It didn't matter what Josh did. It seemed like Josh knows how to save tires. I mean, that's late-mile stock rates, cars tour stuff is that most of it is that. And he tried to, but at lap 40, it didn't matter. His shit was burned up. He was going backwards. I think Josh, looking, I talked to Josh last night too. I think he went looking at his lap time and stuff. He went too hard. Well, that last run trying to get himself back. No, yeah, yeah. That's for sure.

He was, he had to put it. Even earlier on, when he drove to the lead, it was like, oh, buddy, you're a little, it was a little aggressive here for you. I was like, I was thinking, I was like, man, this guy probably knows as well as anybody how to conserve. Yeah. He must have a really, really good car to be doing what he's doing. So we just, it wasn't an idiot. Maybe not. Maybe he was like having a little too much fun.

That was, that, it looked fun right there. That was awesome. That was the thing that I really thought was new and nice was that you had guys that knew better and they couldn't help themselves. Yeah.

There it is. Yeah, they'd run them lap time. There was guys, I laughed so hard. Like, we would literally, the whole second half the race, we would just put around the bottom and just wait. And you'd watch a guy blow by you and four of the guys on the top.

And, you know, like, 10 laps later. 51. 31, 31, 31, 15 to 34. Yeah. Like, they'd go blowing by you on the outside. You're like, all right, see you in a minute. Like, 10 laps later, here they go. Yeah.

And I was thinking it last night. Like, I'm looking there, like Martin's, Martin got into the Cup series back in when the cars had big motors and did that stuff. And Denny was good. Benny had it too. And then Brad was in it back then. Those guys know. Could you imagine if we had 750 horsepower yesterday? Oh, my God.

Oh, my God. Oh, moving on, spot on, spot off. There will never be another Bristol race like this one. TJ. I don't think, I don't know if we'll ever see another one like this one because no one saw it coming. It was the element of surprise. And now if we go back, if everyone sees them tires are coming back, we're going to be prepared for it. So you probably won't see another one like this one.

Follow-up question, though. How early or how soon can Goodyear-Tel teams? what their tire will look like for the fall race so that teams can prepare ahead of time. I hope they don't tell them. Require a test. I mean, you'd have to go test. And in the fall,

I think Xfinity runs there. So who know. Bring the same tire back. Make them figure it out. This is what we've been asking for. I agree. You know how if... Just spit more.

Let's break it up more. Yeah. Should, but should Goodyear or should NASCAR prep the track the same way? Yes. Just leave it. Do the same way. I mean, why not?

It was awesome. And it was fun to watch. I guarantee it was fun on television. Like, it probably looked amazing on television. Like, it was, it was. We don't, we don't, we don't, we haven't had a good short track race with this car in three years. Like, this was awesome. Yeah.

We haven't had a race at Bristol since they reconfigured it like that. I mean, there's a lot of height. I mean, your dad reckoned Terry Labani sold the place out. A race like yesterday, they can, they can sell a lot of tickets off that product. Atlanta is going to be a badass race when we go back to it. This race has the, potential to do the same thing. I wish they never did that press conference in the middle of the race.

It was like a panic mode. And Marcus, I talked to him before the race. But I guarantee they saw it at lap 50 and they're like, oh, God, this is going to be bad. It's going to go one way or another. People are going to love or hate it. It was like there's literally when I was walking down those hills to go to my car yesterday, every fan that was in front of me was talking about how awesome it was to watch. That's what you want.

When in the elevator, when you know in the elevator when you go up there, you see them pictures on the wall. Look at all them people. They're going to, like, you're going to want to go to that race if it's like that. A million percent. Like you're going to want to go to the Coliseum now. Let me tell you, if you weren't there, and I don't know how good a job TV did covering it, when we had that green flag cycle, it was the most exciting thing.

It was a miserable experience of spot, but it had to be the most exciting thing you've ever seen in motorsports. Because there's guys out there literally running four seconds faster and everybody at a short, At Bristol. Here's the meeting I hope that is happening is we're off to the best season we've had in years. Ratings are up everywhere we go. Racing is phenomenal everywhere we've been. I know people are going to say Phoenix wasn't. I was on the Phoenix was a good race train.

You're an idiot. But I think you got to as a sport figure out, all right, man, we got them in a corner. How do we box this guy to death and capitalize? Because we're freaking riding high right now. Yeah, I think it would be a mistake to make any changes or be too aggressive. Jeff Gluck's poll is at 88%. I think a solid number, 22,400 votes. So, I mean, I was surprised by that.

I thought when they, you know, came out with the Jeff Gluck poll would be 50-50, just judging by reaction yesterday. But, you know, I think if you stick around long enough, yes, we'll see another race like that. But I don't think we'll see it anytime soon. I mean, something will change, whether, even if they don't change, the tire. The track will be different. Temperatures will be different. That was just an anomaly. I don't think that's going to be anything we'll continue to see. If Denny didn't win, that's another probably 7%. Yeah, that's very true. If Denny doesn't win that race, we're in the 90s.

What if Chase Elliott wins? Just imagine if Dale Jr. won that race. If Chase won that race, it would be 99.1%. Because there's always going to be some ass-ass going to vote no just because everybody else will, yes. Dale, you were really close to Twitter yesterday watching what the feedback was. If Jeff had done a mid-race poll, do you think it'd be different? That's what got me thinking the poll would be more 50-50 today because everybody in the first 100 to 200 last was panicking. Good year, fans, drivers, crew chiefs, everybody was freaking out

because it was going to go one way or the other, and everybody was assuming that it was probably going to go south. and we were going to have, everybody was already comparing it to 2008 indie. And a lot of people, I think, were hoping to be right. You know, they made their bed. This sucks. This is awful. And I hope it stinks.

And you're going to apologize at the end of this. But it ended up being a great show. And, you know, the drivers, the teams, everybody adapted. I think, you know, Harvick and Clint up there talking about, hey, these teams will adapt. They'll make changes. They'll adjust. The drivers and the crew, chiefs, the spotters, they'll all figure it out. and forgot how to get the end.

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Works smarter, not harder. I have a lot to say, and I'm going to try to say it real quick. I'm calling it before the race even is over. This is the best race I've watched in a long time. Now, I know NASCAR fans are the worst, and they're going to give all a bunch of hate. Hey, especially a good year.

Well, everyone's been asking for this. Give us a soft tire. They've been on dirt here the last few years. Things have changed. Technologies changed. Good year, I'm on their side with this. They gave what the fans asked for. Here it is.

It's like watching a true gladiator battle. This is a great race. It's like an adrenaline rush of driving on an empty tank with your fuel light on. the desert hoping you can make it to the next gas station in time. That wasn't very quick. That wasn't quick at all. It was a good point.

Listen, I think the person that made the decision to take the dirt off the racetrack is the person we probably need to hug today. Because just imagine if that track had had dirt, we'd never got this crazy race. Are you sure about that? You imagine time's blowing out on dirt? That would be amazing. It looked like, after about lap 40, it looked like we were all on dirt, honestly. Oh, I mean, yeah, it was a lot.

Actually, no kidding. It really was a lot like that. Buffalo dip, Bristol, and beer. Ain't no better way to spend a Sunday afternoon. Cut bomb. My question is, when the hell are we going to get back to the good paint schemes? I don't know who's driving what each week. you guys have to have a hard time with it.

There are no good iconic paint schemes anymore. What the hell, man. The problem with that is the sponsorship. It's just nobody does a full season. You know, like back in the day when it was the Good Wrench 3, the Valvillane 6, the Miller Light 2, like that was just that car all year. And that's just not going to, nobody, right? I don't know.

I think all of the Penske cars have been pretty consistent. I was going to say, I think the minority. paint scheme is phenomenal. I think the monster paint scheme is pretty iconic. But that's what he's saying. It's not the Menards 12 every week. I know. You know what I mean?

It's the two sometimes. That's changed. I mean, and it's still an iconic paint scheme for me. I mean, whether it's on Ty Gibbs's car or Tyler's car, I appreciate the monster paint scheme. But he wants that paint scheme to be tied to that driver. He wants to, yeah. He can piss in one hand and not know than tell me which one gets wet.

That's what he's saying. He wants that driver in that same scheme. Yesterday, we got, when he got, when he got, Oh, yes, or Friday, we're Saturday, when we got the track. I looked, and the cup cars are staged on pit road. And Tyler was straight monster this week, which is kind of rare. I feel like you're always usually the beast car or the nasty car. And I was like, he was right next to Ty Gibbs, which was like a blue and white car this week.

I was like, wait a minute. This looks awkward, you know. A lot of all Greg Stucker stuffed up the microphone and said, you want fucking tireware? Here's your fucking tire wear. he's right I love that guy that's my new favorite person we had plenty of it

well well well we are back I'm just gonna crack a beer and toast to a phrase that I haven't heard in long long time savory tires old ex-girlfriend calling back

when you used to love her tire wear came into play if anyone calls in and bitches about that race you got to go back and look at a bunch

of old classic NASCAR race races at Bristol because that is what I like to see guys managing tires and a great race at the end top five was the only one not a lap down that's old Bristol baby this Bristol baby he's right yeah yeah yeah that's saying might come back now Brett which one it's Bristol baby like oh it left I mean it that's the Twitter handle Tj I know but like now it's like if they say they're coming they're gonna bring this tire back in the fall I'm gonna there's probably gonna be a spice they should announce that literally to Literally, the ticket sales are going to go. Yeah. I mean, the night races at the Coliseum always sells out, so I'm not really concerned about that. Sales out? Or? I don't.

I don't. I feel like they do very well. They do well. Somebody educated. The reality is when they reconfigured this track, they took away that bottom groove, the bump and run. They took away all the things that Bristol was famous for. And this is a chance to get a lot of that synergy back. Whether we like it or not, like there is a ton of momentum around that race yesterday, and they could sell it out.

Dude, I'm telling you right now, if this is coming back, it's going to be a show. The tell all, listen, we all know this. When you get to the racetrack and you look out up on that hill, if that hill's full of campers, those stands are full of people. Because there's nowhere to stay in Bristol, Tennessee. Like there's not enough hotels. I've always said the ideal place to have a Super Bowl if you had accommodations would be Bristol Motor Speedway because of the way that the stadium is built.

But there's not enough capacity, lodging capacity for people to come and stay there. I mean, it's a really small market. And it's a badass track. It's a badass track. But man, they got a ton of momentum. And Marcus is a smart dude. And I don't have his phone number. But if I did, I'd say, man, I hope you capitalize on this and sell the freaking thing out because you can now.

The problem with this weekend, when I talked to, Brett, sent me a picture. You didn't get the caution when you want. No, we know. But the problem, like, there's not, there was no reason to have a camper there this week. That's, yeah, we were there one day. I've been telling you all that. Y'all talk, y'all get mad at me because I say we need practice. You're an idiot.

When did you leave, T.J. Majors. Saturday morning. Like everybody. Saturday morning. Y'all left Saturday morning. So why would a fan drag a camper from Alabama to Bristol Motor Speedway when cars are on on track until Saturday afternoon? Yeah. Bristol is a badass enough race track where, and I liked the week where we ran an

Arka race on Wednesday or something. Trucks ran. It was like, yeah, you run Thursday. Yeah, there was a night off for the hauler parade downtown. And, I mean, it was always, you had a reason to go there and spend four days or possibly five. Can we have late models there? We did that before. We've done late models there. Super late models.

Dude, they ran a Legends race one year. Oh, that was that. Not good. You don't remember that? There was such a bad wrecking that race. When that happened, probably. There was a legist race race of late models. Which one of them guys wrecked that?

Larry Pearson, I think it was. Oh, my gosh. wrecked hard. We were talking Andy Houston yesterday That's not the point My point is there was a lot going on on the racetrack Which gave fans a reason to be there If there's no reason to be there

They're not going to come all weekend We got to give them a reason We used to be the biggest thing going Everywhere we went We got to get back to that I got to be honest When I saw the campground It'll tell you what the crowd is going to look like

You know what you said that But I'm saying the crowd was better The crowd was better than I thought Brett just said that The crowd was the better crowd than I thought it was for what the campground which tells me that the crowd that was there drove in for the day and drove home

you know why it tells me that because I know what hotels cost around there no shit I mean 600 bucks a night dude they ain't paying that yeah not in beautiful Johnson City Tennessee no that is what I'm talking about bro that was lit like the light ball party I was ready to buy tickets for Atlanta but now I'm thinking about buying bristle tickets in the fall

and that's gonna run me banked bro bro that was a great show. Man, what more could you ask for that? It sounds like Roger. Tiretadety, tire fall off, pitch strategy, drivers that manage their tires, drivers that were not as good at managing your tires. And what can I say, the best driver of all, especially in managing tires one. I agree.

Freddie, take it away from me. Where were the greatest? Maybe we should get this up. We're all them super talented drivers. Yeah, I guess you take your money from it if you're going to spend Atlanta And go to Bristol. I think Mark's going to be fine with that either way. Yeah, it doesn't matter.

One way or the other. Just go to both. Get a credit card. Yeah. If the greatest gives me a big enough raise, I'll pay for your damn Bristol tickets. Who's vibrating? I mean. Me.

Damn, Brett. What do you? That's not a normal. It's usually, it's usually in his pocket. That's why he has that turned up so high. It's like a belt sander, dude. I don't know what I'm going to get you that.

No, don't know. Just stop. I can see the wheels turning in Brett's head right now. Thank you to good year. That was a hell of a race. Please don't get discouraged by any morons on Twitter talking about issues with the tire wear because I can promise you the variation in lap time, the cumbers and goer, the fact that there was that much difference in pace. That was a hell of a race.

Second, thank you, North Carolina State Legislature. Because without you, there never would have been a day in my life that I was cheering for Denny Hamlin. I'm no Hamlin fans, but I'm going to take that $130 to the bank. that was a hell of a week. Gambling. Yeah. I thought he was going to give him a shout out to NC State's basketball team. That's what I thought that's where I thought it was going to.

What a story that is. Hey, the best story out of the weekend is that, what I'll tell you, Long Beach State? Do you see this deal at Long Beach State? Was that? They fired the coach. Oh, no. They fired the coach and the coach said, I'll just keep coach. They fired him on Monday.

He said, I'll just keep coaching. And they won the tournament and now they're in the damn big show. and he doesn't have a job for next year. It's not even the end of the race. What is it? 53 to go. You just take 53 to go. This is the best.

Hosefar is getting ready to slow down. That's what I was going to say. You're about to pit, Freddie. This is the greatest spectacle I've ever witnessed. Oh, my God, they just almost freaking hits. Dude, I love this sport so much. This is what we've wanted. This is what we've been asking for.

for the longest. Look at those tires coming off of the 11. Dude, this is pain. This is good racing, man. You can actually say the drivers drove the wheels off the thing. Quite, right? Well, almost. Pretty much, yeah.

Rove the tires off of it. Drove the tires off of the thing, yeah? I, yeah, I just... If we were going back to Lakers, would you look forward to it? Oh, yeah. I mean... As a driver, right? You're going back.

I've had quite a... I've had many miserable days where I do some... something stupid in the beginning of the race and I'm out the race for nothing but that was I wish I would have been in the mix in that race I mean that's the most fun I've had has to be fun right long time and I wasn't even the craziest part was I knew earlier we were talking about you know we've always talked about arrow with this car at short tracks and everything I knew my car was damaged but I did not know it was quite literally destroyed in the front and I'm up there racing with people right and I'm wondering why like you know people are getting frustrated and then I see my car after

race. I'm like, oh, it was, it was like killed. But I was still in the mix. It was like Arrow didn't matter. You didn't feel that hit. We're in the front there. Down the front stretch. I mean, I did. I did. You didn't think like, hey, maybe my car's fucked up. I don't know. They had an ample opportunity not to wreck you in that wreck. Well, I mean, old Bristol, right? You can go down there and you're fine. With all the, all the debris coming off the tires, all the rubber coming off the tires and just populating in all the areas we weren't racing. I mean, I figured it out later on in the race, why that. why that happened to me is just anywhere out of the groove, your tires would get, your hot tires would get caked up with all that stuff, and it would take three or four laps. It was ice.

Yeah. It's just, there's no grip. But that's another element to it. For sure, I mean, like, there was one time,

we, we were just creeping the bottom. Like, that was our, the whole state has race. We're just not getting off the bottom. And Eric got underneath us, Jones.

And we, we moved up to let him go. And I said, there's a two-car gap behind him. We could. Like, like, we must have got in the,

in the marbles. And Bubba's like, he could not get down. Then we got shuffled like seven more spots back because we just like, and Bubba's like, I wasn't even that high. It's like it doesn't matter. Like it's like once you get any kind of marbles on your tires, it's like ice. It was hard getting into your pit stall turning left. Oh, yeah.

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This first one is from Fishfan. Would you agree strategy by the crew chief was just as important as the drivers having to be patient to not burn up tires? Tyler, that's a great question for you. Well, unfortunately, our plan didn't work out. But, hey, we learned. We showed the rest of the field, hey, this doesn't work. But, I mean, we already kind of talked about that, right? Like, the strategy was important.

Obviously, the 11 and 19 had kind of gotten out far. enough to where they could play a little bit safer. For us, I mean, we were like the last car to pit during the green flag cycle at the end. It didn't really cost us anything. We could go super hard to the end of the race and get a P-30 out of it, which was great. But to a degree to, like, some of these teams, just depending on where your car was, there was only so much adjustability in it. You could only go so far with the balance. And if you're using up your right front tire too much, there's not a lot you can do other than just run ridiculously slow at the start of the run in hope that your tires don't go bad.

The downside to that was, like we talked about earlier, if you really took it easy in the beginning of a run, at some point in that first half the race, someone would spin out, something would happen, right? And all your hard work would in return give you nothing. We fought that a few times. The first handful of the others, we fought that. We were riding right when we thought we were going to take off,

it's like, oh, coffee's out. And it was, like, like, said, crazy to see a play out. There would be guys just take off and go, and you're like, oh, they're going to be doomed. Like, the 54 got somewhat back up in the mix, just gone. took off. And then the caution fell. There was not a lot of crew chief strategy until that last green flag cycle with whatever

it was, 50, 60 to go. Because you just knew, like, you're going to run 40-ish, 50 laps. Somebody's going to blow a tire. You're going to pit. Like, where you're going to put four on? Yeah, their strategy turn from different. Now they're managing lap time. You're managing, you know, what should we run?

They're managing in a different way, which is cool. I mean, that's, that's, like, you could tell some guys, you could definitely tell some guys kind of got caught with their pants down. in that like you I mean you could run like I think 190 on fuel probably there and we've never really had to you like before the pre-race

our pre-race meeting was you're running until you got to flip the switch it stumbles you flip the switch you get another lap you're coming to pit road that that's how far we're running all of a sudden we were like I don't even know how many laps Josh Josh I think was the first one to pit it was 40

probably 50-ish laps they ran they start coming to pit road like now you're in a green flag run 5th lap 50 and it's like yeah Oh, shit. When that first correct road, you're like, oh, boy, here it goes. It's probably, I would say you lose three laps, probably up-hit road, two and a half, three laps. And that's a tough pill to swallow, like, especially when you know guys are blowing tires.

Depends on right where you're behind the leader. If you're almost going a lap down, you're probably going to be three when you come back out. But if you're within a straightaway the leader, you're probably going to lose it. It paid, I think it paid, like, it paid. And this is what I'm talking about kind of earlier with the caution. That, like, they've shown us now. They're not going to throw a caution. during a pit cycle.

They're not going to do it. I wouldn't hold him to that. But they're not going to do it. I think if there's a legit, if there's a wrecked car on the track and he stops. Really? And he's got to get. Atlanta?

There's a fucking car parked sideways at the entrance. It took off right away. Not right away. He stopped. He stopped on a race track. There's a stop car on the racetrack. We need to get him back in here and say, you're straight again.

No, he didn't send me straight before. You're starting the day off with an L. Why? He agreed that it was dangerous. That guy's out there. 92%. He didn't agree that you have been a yellow. Take your L.

My own Jeff Gluckpole, 92% of people agree that it's dangerous for a car to be running 35 miles on the interstate. That's not an interstate. Yeah, they're going faster. There's no helmets. But that's the problem. So you're now,

now you've got to adjust your pitch strategy based on the fact that, well, they're not going to throw a yellow during a pit cycle. But you can't pit too early. We did so. And I think the four did that. The four didn't have a choice. They were like bleeding very badly. They had a really bad tire problem.

So they came too early. but Josh cycled back to third or fourth, I think, because he just, he hauled ass. He drove up. He was the next car in front of us. He was third. And if they catch a caution, we're coming back and put tires on it.

And it works out for them. He bled at the end. I think he ended up in the top 12, maybe 12 to 13, something like that. But they fell off a cliff at the end. But like, I think some guys got caught like, they just couldn't do it. You know, there are some guys like,

I know I got a pit, but I'm not, I'm not willing to put myself three laps down right now. And the guys that were aggressive, kind of paid off. Even Josh, though, after the race. I mean, he texts me and he's like, he's like, dude, I entered the race with three flat tires and my car was on fire and it was freaking awesome. You know what I mean? Every driver I talked to absolutely loved it. Yeah, there was a couple that I saw last night come through the FBO deal that weren't real happy with, but they were ones that

had issues. I mean, if you have a bad day, you have a bad day, but. But, like, Tyler had a bad day. Let me tell you had a bad day yesterday. Austin Cendrick had a bad day yesterday. Yeah. He tried to, somehow he made my day back too. Somehow he teaboned you on pit road. Coming in last. blows through Stenhouse right in front of the leaders. I don't know what he was doing there. Oh, yeah. He went down like 66 truck race.

Oh, man, he did not have a good day. Poor Doug. This next one is from Josh. And I'm going to switch it up a little bit because of what we just talked about. Of the drivers who were not a fan of what happened yesterday, was it because it was unexpected? Would a longer practice have helped? What do you guys?

think. I don't know. No, because I mean, like, I think the entire field looked at practice and was like, well, it's just, it was a green racetrack, you know, not a lot of laps on the racetrack so far in the weekend. Yeah. Ran the day before. And we're just, we're all looking at the historical stats, right? And the trends that this place is of this place over the last, you know, 10 years. And the top always comes in, the where always goes away. I think everyone was just, you know, blinded by that, right? Like, We're like, it's going to go back to the Bristol we've always seen. There's no way it doesn't. And, well, it got us.

Yeah. Yeah, for sure. Longer practice doesn't do anything there because you have one set of tires for practice. And by the time you run 50 laps, your car, it's. Yeah, we ran 250, 300 laps and the track never really changed from that regard. Tyler would have been done. If we had an hour practice, Tyler would have been out of 30 laps. Yeah, you're done in 10 minutes.

Don't hide it. Don't hide it. Tire fix Phoenix or would it be too much of a variable to crown a championship using it? It definitely needs a softer tire, but I don't know. Tyler, what do you think? I mean, I can't really, I didn't do a good job or really seeing what the differences were from my point of view. But, yeah, I mean, you would fall off and then you would kind of plateau. That's kind of been the trend with the next gen car.

So I think they tried to bring the tire to Phoenix. I think it had more tread on it. I could be wrong there. But I think anything you do to soften the tire up, add more rubber to the tire that you can burn through, increases the heat, all that sort of stuff. So, yeah, obviously we saw how Bristol played out, and that was an extreme, and it accomplished the goal, right?

So I think there's a process there. right like from my point of view i've corded many attires and the only times you blow a tire is when you know there's not enough air in the tire or you make an aggressive maneuver that damages the sidewall the tire that's when the tire blows every time i've wore a tire out it goes to the cords and i either wreck it because i can't drive it or you know you lose lots and lots of time so we blew one yesterday well that's that's the thing i guess people did yeah how did that happen right that's the thing i mean just wore more cars wore their tires down to the tread and just lost But you didn't back it in, though.

No, no. Because that's how it used to be back in the day. If you blew a tire, holy cow. Well, you were running 160 miles. We were running 20 mile an hour. That should have been a yellow. Should have been definitely. Yeah, I think if you have more of a Bristol-style race at Phoenix, you know, it seemed

pretty obvious. Air didn't matter as much. You're trying to take care of your tires. It would definitely be a more old-school, old-school race. Which would be great. What is he's saying is when it hits that plateau, we all were in the same speed, and wherever you're running out. Yeah, it's just dictated by the air you're in.

Exactly. And if you're running the same speed, you're just looking at the mirror going to turn one. Okay, is the guy going to run top or bottom? Always running up. I want to move up. Yeah. What an idiot, man. Moving on to What an Idiot?

And we'll kick things off with Freddy. Oh, I got a good one. I got two. One is Andrew Curlin. Is he still here? No. I'm trying. They all left.

They all left. They all left. Andrew and his fucking frosted tips was right at the top of my one idiot. And it's not only the tips. Oh, God. It's the attention he sought to get the tips. Yeah. If I can get 60 likes.

If you can't get 60 likes. Dude, I can fart you at 60 likes. I mean, if you're going to reach for something and actually try to challenge people to reach a goal in order to do something stupid, which, by the way, he did, at least make it hard. So you wanted to frost your tips. Just go frost your tips. So my real one idiot. though is another friend of mine. T.J. Majors, do you know him?

I do. What did I do now? So I'm listening to the podcast DJD last week and Jefferson is on there. Jefferson Hodges. By the way, amazing episode. Amazing episode if you want to go back and listen to it. But Jefferson and Dale agreed

that T.J. at one point in his life was a mildly ass that was very outspoken and wouldn't shut the fuck up. And I'm just trying to figure out where that guy went. Yeah. Because now he's got a podcast, the number one podcast in the world with millions of listeners. And he won't say a fucking thing on here. Are you talking?

I didn't hear of the thing you said. I didn't know what you're talking about it. I just said you used to be a mouth of the ass. No, no, you won't even run your mouth anymore. I'm disappointed in you. Yeah, it's got a little better. When he's at Penske, he's like, oh. Yeah, when y'all got me to holler.

Good Lord. Geez, I'm like, I got to be careful. He'd walk right down the middle. My one of an idiot is really easy. And Tyler is literally wearing this guy's t-shirt. ironically. And the irony in this is unbelievable. So we're sitting at Big Owls last night and these two guys that do the, what's it called? Black Flag Podcast. Black Flag Podcast. They roll into Big Ows. And I've met these guys. They're good dudes.

But Mr. Bobby Timmons blows a motor in the middle of Big House under the table. So Kyle, my favorite bartender walks over and he says, it's real nice. Your friend just puked all in my bar. I'm like, first of all, I didn't bring the guy here. Freddie did. But fortunately, One of their friends cleaned the whole mess up because I'm telling you this was, it was bad. What's Nick's fault? Nick brought you. You brought that guy. Yeah, Nick's old people.

I just, I hate it for him. He like, you know, he's in bad shape, right? And then he just goes and plants his feet right in it. Oh, man. But he was in a real great mood when I left. I said, hey, just for you, buddy, I'm wearing your shirt tomorrow. Yeah. Yeah, you did.

But if you're going to blow him out or go to the bathroom. I'm just glad you did it. They're not my eyes. house. Because they started my house last night. He might have already done it there. Yeah, there's probably a pile somewhere in my house that I haven't found yet. That's not fun. Can't notice the smell?

I wasn't noticing much when I left this morning. I was saying if you're going to show up or not. We had an instance like that with one of the guys that Jefferson mentioned on the podcast that he worked with, former driver. We were down in Charlotte at a bar. I was sitting next to him and I look over there. You can tell. You know when they're getting close.

And he just goes, that's exactly. Leans under the table and poor Bob, I mean, the thing that happened with Bobby, and I would love that we're going to be mortified about this. But like he was over there talking to me and Brett, and he was, seemed fine. You know what? He was drunk. You know what's really funny? It sounds very familiar to someone else I know that did the same shit.

That was into a garbage can, though. I made it to a garbage can. That was your fault. That was your fault. I'm not trying. I don't want to say his name, but Mark puked everywhere. Well, this is a reverting conversation. I love it because Bobby's going to be more.

TJ, I got an idiot. Yeah, I mean, you're not, I'm surprised. You're letting Carson go on this. I mean, I don't know, Carson's got to get one for trying to wreck the field for three laps when you can easily get off the racetrack. This isn't the truck series. And what I tell you earlier, like, if you have a flat tire, you have a problem, you pit like an adult. Right. You don't throw a tantrum.

out there and try to tee somebody up and, you know, ruin. Listen, if I get it, next time, I wish you could say it on the radio because if Bubba Blue is tire, I want to be like, spin out. Like, you're going to lose three laps coming up in the road. Spin the fuck out. I mean, that's the problem. Everyone knows that, right? Like, you can't.

Bubba knows it because he paid $50,000. Yeah. Well, because he's not going to do that. One idiot. Bubba Wallace, retrospective. Yeah, that, I mean, if someone really wanted to spend out in that cycle, they could have. It was so easy to do. And I'll be honest, there's going to be real, I mean, it's going to be really hard to tell if someone did it on purpose or not.

Oh, yeah. Not what that. Yeah, yesterday, yeah. I thought all the couple of hours. Well, you can do it on purpose. You just can't say you did it on purpose. Well, I mean, I feel like it over the course of history, it's somewhat obvious when someone does it. Yesterday it wouldn't have been. It wouldn't have been obvious.

When your throttle trace goes from like 30 to 100 real quick and then. No, no, you don't even have to do that. Oh, yeah. Well, I'm saying, but it's, it's obvious when you see that. But you could probably do it now just. no no i mean if i mean i was basically turning right through the corner the last like 15 laps it felt like i was racing bristle dirt yeah like i don't know i'm glad the cup drivers yesterday did a i mean that was some of the most fun crazy stuff that i've seen and those guys we like del jr said they were catching

each other hitting each other in the middle of the corner because they weren't the closing rates were something they're not used to like you guys don't have closing rates like that that often yeah and it was awesome tyler you have an idiot yeah i'll give it to myself i try direct my teammate Jesus. How dare I not get out of Josh Barry's way? I mean, why were you doing? Why were you holding Josh out? Yeah, that was not, that was a call for my part.

So I apologize to. Bubba's like, what happened? I go, well, I said he wrecked himself to not wreck you, basically. But Josh was the one that started it. I said, Josh gave two big shots in the middle of the corner. And then he just tried to stay off you and spun out. I miss the bottom. But I mean, I had a bad feeling when I was scrubbed my tires.

I'm like, oh, boy, this is going to be rough. And it just, it would not go to the bottom. I'm just glad you got a really good restart. That was a good restart. start, though, because, like, you clear Josh and let us go around. Oh, my gosh. I mean, I basically just floored it, spinning the tires, Bubba shoved me on by. I'm like, all right, sick. And then, yeah, then I, they got in Zane's way, unfortunately. You backed into Zane. I do need to text. I got to give him credit. Like, you know, I, in no way thought Zane did anything wrong.

Everyone was kind of picking him apart for it. He committed it was done. I need to get back to him. He text me right away and apologize. And I really appreciate that from him. But, I mean, it's just circumstances there. Moving on to DBC picks. Who won? Who won? Who won? Congratulations. You won with your boss man.

Denny Hamlin. Can I pick him again? Negative. I get first pick, and I was having a beer with the guy last night about, you know, Cota and how I thought it would go and how he thought it would go. And it just so happens that Tyler Reddick is pretty fucking good at Cota. And he's my pick. So I'm going with Tyler.

I get to pick first. I'm glad I didn't tell you wasn't feeling good about it. God. I'm kidding. If I don't have a half a second on that, the field, I'm being pissed. Oh, let's see. I think I go next, right?

Yeah. Man. The good news is you can't lay up because I went big. Big gun right there. That's why you lay up. I will go, is A.J. running that race? AJ is, I don't think, is, I don't know if they've announced it, but he is running

that race. Oh, well, then I'll take A.J. when they announce it. Breaking news. Well, I mean, I hope they've announced it, but if they haven't. it's AJ. Surely it's out. I'm sure the Bob Pockris has got that little thingy where they all sign up to run and it's got his name on it.

But it doesn't come out until tomorrow. The entry list? The old thing. That's a big, but it's cute. A little thingy. What do you call it? Do hicky? Do funny.

Do funny. Who's that? What? Oh. You can picture this one. I have an idea. MAPES didn't give you one? He did give me one, but I'm also losing, so...

Love you, MAPS, but... Tyler. Well, at least tell us who he told you to pick before you pick. I didn't get a chance to. Chastain? Chastain's a good one. Yeah. Okay.

Deal. Chastain. Who'd you pick? I went with AJ. I'll take Chase Elliott. Chase Elliott. Yeah. Tyler, if you're behind him on the last corner, move his ass.

dive bomb coming dive bomb his ass and then when you get out I'd be like hey I'm really sorry if it's rust sane you definitely move his eyes if you've ever seen me dive bomb I'll clear him by like

four cars there ain't give me no contact if you move Chase Elliott to win it's going to be great for the while then you're going to get home and you're going to look at social media and you're not going to have a good time my kid's going to be a little torn

yeah you're going to be mad yeah I hope to God I'm not spotting for you again this race last year we wrecked on like Laptan I had to go spot for like the last corner for Tyler. Yeah. All right. Well, what do we expect to Cota though, honestly?

So with, I think with the newer downforce package, it's shown that there are some differences in what the car wants and where it wants to be. So obviously you can't just, I don't think you're going to be able to take what you took last year and expect the same performance out of it. There's going to be some changes that have to happen. So that opens up the opportunity for other teams to hit it, miss it. it does seem like this newer car, this newer downforce packages and is sensitive is what we've been racing. So I think you'll see similar racing. I don't think people are going to be running a whole lot tighter.

You know, it's a tricky track to be able to stay within a car length through the S's and other areas. So with, I think the biggest thing is they've repaved from turn, turn, exit to turn nine through turn 11 is all repaved. That was one of the most war out places on the track. So it's going to be a lot of grip there. Does that hurt passing there? I don't know. They repave the breaking zone and turn 12. The breaking zone into 12 through turn 12. So there's going to be more grip there. Oh, good. You need grip everywhere. Yeah. You're talking about oh, good. There's like 87 corners. That's what corner isn't going to help you that much. I think the area that's going to affect people the most is you get pretty much three quarters away through the carousel and it goes from

that old asphalt to new asphalt. So I think people, people are going to be struggling through there, and then you're just going to be hauling through turn 19, again, repaved. As we go from repaved asphalt out under the old bumpy runoff. So it's going to be a little bit different. I'm curious to see how much. Certainly, lap time's going to be faster. Don't know how much it's going to change the racing. Another big question for me is right now it's going to be 78 degrees in windy, no rain.

Shane Van Gisbergin in a cup car had a road course. Obviously, Chicago, he kicked y'all's ass. what does he do this weekend? What's he driving? What's he driving? He's driving a collar car. What's AJ driving? Another color car.

If AJ doesn't race, I get Shane. No. Oh. That is how that works. AJ will be in an open car, so I'm obviously qualified. But Shane Van Gisbergen, what do you think he's going to do this weekend? Because he's going to be a big topic going to the same. I feel like if this was our first time going here, I think he'd have an advantage for sure.

I feel like we've all raced here enough. We kind of know the race track. but certainly his expertise in the areas that he has will show up. I mean, I expect him to be fast. But who knows? I mean, it could be a surprise. The deal like at Chicago, right, he had speed, but the biggest thing that helped him there is he knew where the line was

and wouldn't cross it. You know, he was smart. He was methodical about it. He knew how he could put other drivers in bad spots where I made my mistakes. I was just push, push, push until I hit something. Shane shouldn't have won that race. Somebody else here. I really screwed that.

up. But hey, it made for a great story. Whatever it takes. Can you not screw up this weekend? Well, the nice thing about Cota is there's not a wall at every breath of off racetrack, right? So like at Cota, everything's a lot of runoff. I mean, we got track limits through the S's and that's about it. So it's perfect for me. I blow through the corner.

How many races have you given away in the last two years? Not you specifically, but. No, I've f*** that. I mean races, have you given away in the last two years. Oh, my gosh. You know, your team, it doesn't matter. Y'all, you're all together. Kurt Bush and I had a conversation about this.

He told me to stop thinking about it. But that's what I'm trying to get you to do right now is realize you got to stop this shit. Because you could have how many more cup wins? It's a lot. Yeah. Well, I mean, a lot of it's not a him. I play my role. There's a couple that you.

I play my role. Yeah, Chicago is a big obvious one. Chicago's one. Rich, Richmond. Believe it or not, I never thought I'd have a shot of winning at Richmond. I think. I truly think this is a year. saying it's going to sit in here.

I told you this last night. I think Tyler Reddick wins three to five races and he wins championship. I think you're there if you don't, if you stop fucking up. If I stopped wrecking my teammate and holding up before. Well, listen, we're glad you came on. I appreciate you. Obviously, we were having a couple cocktails and nobody's ever had a bad idea when you having a couple cocktails.

There's never been a bad idea that Big Owls. No, ever. I was, I was texting Freddie. I'm like, it is, is it 9 or 930? I didn't hear from him for a while. I'm like, uh-oh. I was dead. and then I said 930

and then I said oh wait apparently we agreed to 915 just see no he was that he was valid like it's validated he was concerned he's like he'd actually text me and said I'm scared about I'm worried about Freddie I always make it eventually well no one time

that's that true well here in Columbia oh no yeah that's true too all right well we'll see everybody in Cota Casey congrats yeah congrats Casey I'm more glad we got a fan

fan in studio Justin's here is still here nice to meet you He's the one who cleaned a puke Yeah, I was going to say it. Yeah, just to clean the puke last night, so thanks for him. Clean up one of our friends' peep. You get to join us for the show.

What a reward. Yeah. Come on by. All right, well, Holly, y'all, Monday after Coda, I'm going to go out on a limb right here, and I'm not one to gloat. But this is the best podcast in NASCAR this week. We had Tyler Edict, Dale Jr., and obviously the three stooges plus Casey. So I hope you guys enjoyed it as we did.

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