Door Bumper Clear - 326 | Texas: A Pleasant Surprise

Episode Date: April 16, 2024

Freddie Kraft, Brett Griffin, T.J. Majors & Casey Boat recap a surprisingly entertaining Texas race. The “Hooters Curse” is finally broken with Chase Elliott securing his first win since 2022. How concerned should Ford fans be with the manufacturer being winless a quarter of the way into the season? Late-race drama between William Byron and Ross Chastain gets the Reaction Theatre line buzzing. Did Ryan Sieg choke or did Sam Mayer close it out? Episode Highlights Chase Elliott ends the “Hooters Curse” Jimmie Johnson = Darrell Waltrip? “He wrecked the Watermelon Man!” Does Texas need a repave after all? Ford’s drought continues Want more DBC? Check out and subscribe to the new DBC YouTube channel! 21+ and present in NC. First online real money wager only. $10 Deposit req. Bonus issued as non-withdrawable bonus bets that expire 7 days after receipt. Restrictions apply. See full terms at fanduel.com/sportsbook. Gambling problem? Call 877-718-5543 or visit morethanagame.nc.gov. Want more DBC? Check out and subscribe to the new DBC YouTube channel! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

The following is a production of Dirtymoe Media. Still good. By one. Go on the drive, man. It will come to you. Fall asleep on the gate out back. Keep up in top. Here.

Keep up in bottom three. Bottom three, right. Go, go, go, go, go, go. Door. Bupper, clear. Clear. Clear. Clear, clear.

Hey, everybody. I'm T.J. Majors. It's part of the Sixth Cup car this weekend. Had the 41 truck. No Xfinity. I was too tired. Too tired. Brett Griffin, man.

Speaking of tired. Are you tired? I'm back in the saddle, spotted for Austin Hill yesterday. And I just landed from Texas. I got, I was, what's up, Freddie Crabs, bottom of Wallace, Kyle Seag and Ty Dillon. I was landing at about 1030, 10.40. And Brett had just text that he was taking off at about, I don't know, 10 o'clock, 9.30. It was late.

It was ridiculous. Why so late? We waited on two motherfuck for two hours. Did they show up showered in full bellies? I mean, I hope they went to in and out, Buckees and the strip club. I hope they went everywhere they wanted to go before they got to the airport. Hard eight. Wherever.

Do we know these people or? I don't know them. So just two guys. What were they crew guys or like? They had on Hooters gear. So I don't know if they were servers at Hooters or if they actually were on the 9 team or I don't know. Would you have preferred they just left them? I had a preferred they just left them.

I had a hundred percent preferred they left them. I remember one year. Let him ride the truck home. I remember one year Joey won 500, and Mike Messick was on our plane. And we had to wait forever. I mean, it wasn't Mike's fault. He's doing engine. Mike works one of the main guys in Roushades.

He had to do engine tear down, and we were there for a while. Surely they could have swapped him. That's what I'm sitting there. I honestly think eventually they did. I think that we ended up leaving, but we waited a long time. I'm looking at two Hendrick Jets. across the runway from me, and I understand why they've not taken off. But I also understand that there's three teams over there.

Go get two people off that plane, put them on this plane, and send my plane home. But math is hard for some people. Well, I know. You're literally complaining about flying private. I know. That's because the commercial flight beat me home. The commercial flight landed before my flight landed. How did you get home, Casey?

Travel is one race, and he has so much to complain about. When did you get home? I did not go to Texas this weekend. Probably, you know. What's your next one? Dover. Dover. Oh, Dover.

We got some cool stuff coming in. We do have some cool stuff coming up. Anyways, Chase Elliott, all is right in the world, right? Gets his win, breaking his 42 race winless streak. What did you guys think of the race? All hell, Chase Elliott. The kingdom is correct again. All is right in the world.

Yeah. I laughed above his tweet. and I was like, damn it, now we're never going to get to fix Texas because Chase won here. That was a funny tweet. Listen, I don't know. The king has been resurrected. Chase Elliott is alive. Yeah.

I mean, listen, for what I couldn't believe, I was listening to tear down. And I actually had a text. We've been texting with Trey Ryan about some stats back and forth. And I couldn't believe to find out that this was Chase's first top five in the next gen car on a mile and a halfs. I guess excluded. I didn't know that. Excluding Atlanta. But, I mean, it's hard to believe.

You know what I mean? Just as good and consistent as he normally is, you would, you'd feel like that he's at least found one somewhere. But I don't know how many races it is. But that was a surprising stat for me for sure. I wouldn't guess that. Yeah, for sure. Well, I didn't believe it, to be honest. It's hard to be that bad.

I hate to kick a horse while they're down. But the, I, we text for Trey because Fox was the one that shared it, I guess. And I was like, I'm going to have to fact check these guys after some of the graphics they put up the last. Man, it's so cool for him to win, though, honestly. Big win for Hooters. First win since 1992. I obviously been supporting our sport for a long time. I was 10 years old.

In 92. I was a junior in high school. I act like a complete idiot. So what about that Hooters' Curse? Is it safe to say it's... Safe to say it's over. I guess. Yeah, I didn't even know there was a Hooters curse.

I never thought about it. I mean, it's not like... How many... I don't really think it's a curse. Kuiki. There were some other guys that... Who were they after... Who were they on after?

after Quickey. Like, I remember Loy Allen. Loy Allen, Jr. Yeah, they weren't going to win. They weren't going to win. No. But you would have thought when they got with a Georgia boy, and obviously Hooters started in Georgia.

But didn't they kind of disappear for a while? They did. They went away. So is it really a curse? They started their own deal, didn't it? That Hooters Pro Cup deal was pretty cool for a while. Yeah, that was really cool. Yeah.

I don't think it's a curse. I don't either. So y'all didn't tell me going into Texas how hard it was going to be to pass. Holy hard to pass. That's what I, you know, is this your first top, I had spotted in six months, T.J. So I was out of cadence. I was out of shape.

And I get up there and I'm like, this is awful. Well, you aren't out there very long, so it's okay. Yeah. Well, I was trying to second when my shit broke. You know what? Because it was hard to pass. That's because everyone pitted. Yeah, you know, I saw people,

and I'm sure we'll get into this more later. But, you know, that race, and it's trending pretty good on Gluck's poll. It's 74%. Oh, I'm really surprised on that one. When I just voted no, it was trending 74%. Did you vote no? You guys. Always vote no.

No. I do when I think it's a bad race. What if Denny won? Where's that poll at? Oh, for me it's definitely yes. Yeah. I mean, what do you think the percentage is? Yeah, I mean, I chase is probably worth, I don't know, five points maybe.

Oh, I think it's more than that. Way more than that. I think it was going to be over 70 either way. I think it was probably entertaining to watch. I feel like the race was entertaining. It wasn't a good race. And that's in my opinion, you know, it was just, it was cautions. Oh, cautions bring restarts.

Restarts are entertaining. So that's what makes people... But the cautions were actually natural cautions most of the time, so that was okay. Yeah, I mean, guys... We have the drivers to thank for it being entertaining. Because if they're not out there on edge, if they had been patient, Denny could have easily been content outside of whoever the hell he wrecked racing. Yeah, I mean, there were just so...

McDowell could have easily been patient trying to take the lead where he was at. Like, everybody knew, I got to get all I can get right here. It almost was like Talladega was 10 years ago. if you got the lead you had control of the race and those guys were doing all they could to get control but the the actual ability to pass was absolute garbage it was a I mean it was it was a joke and when you put on tires it was almost a joke yeah I mean we were we almost started we I mean we were all ineffectively we were running the race like a road course at the end of stage two like we were staying out like we stayed out you know we fueled it up and we could run to our window in the third stage where we could make a it to the end and I think I think the 21 was doing something similar he was but it's just you know like we don't that's never unheard of what we do you know what I mean uh we were just staying out on old tires and we we finished second the stage and and stayed out again and we're going to try to run about 25 there was a little bit of separation tires but it was still hard yeah and there

was two the groups were so big though like you couldn't get all the way back through it was it was it was the my biggest problem with with it was so easy to just arrow block Like if you could stall a run, then that guy wasn't getting around you for another five laps. I actually thought this was one of the harder places to arrow block. It's way, to me, it was harder than in Kansas or something like that because the cars would still get a little bit upset. And in three and four, if the guy ran the bottom, you would run the top and you could get a run. Like we had, like, we were, we caught chased near the end there. We were probably, Brad just got to him.

I think we probably could have got, we were just creeping in him. It was just going to be a game when he chose the wrong line, and then we were going to be beside him, which was probably going to happen, but it was going to take another four laps to get him. I don't know, it had been close, but Denny.

I feel like the nine was better than Denny when Denny was leading, but he was having to pay too much attention to us, and he couldn't run his line to catch Denny because he was having to play defense. But we had 15, 20 lap better tires, too. Yeah, which should have been able to just drive by him. Yeah, but it's still harder. You should have been able to blow his doors off with 20 light pressure.

I mean, if you do that at the old Texas, you're going, I mean, well, it wouldn't even be a question. Definitely hard to pass. Could you imagine if you got to the airport last night, both of you, and you read on Twitter, Chase Elliott has failed tech? I don't ever imagine that because that's never going to happen. It's never going to happen, so it doesn't really matter. The last time that happened, it ended up as being a money fine anyway. I did see that. I guess NASCAR was frustrated at Chase for not letting off the gas for that caution.

and I was like, are they talking about Chase Elliott? Is that fair? It actually screwed me up because him and who I was you that were you second of the time? Probably. Yeah. Then they put the 24 back and then they took, then they put it like they changed it twice at the end. Like he wrecked, we passed him in the middle of the backstretch and the caution came out. And Ross or, uh, what's his name?

Chase was in the middle of three and four. What's his name? Yeah. We're entering three. And it was been a while since. since we passed to 24. And I don't know how you go right back to put him back in front of you. And then, oh, well, we're going to put you back in front of him now.

Like, why change it twice? Just change it once. Yeah, I don't. But. So was that the same caution that took forever that drivers complaining about? Because I remember there was one that was quite a bit longer. They were just getting the lineup, right? You know, I don't.

Yeah. It's not easy when we're all three wide through one and two. And then somebody wrecks over there on a restart. Now you're trying to pick out, you know, the scoring loops. and who was involved and who wasn't. Like, I know it benefited from the old, don't stop, keep going. He looked up and they called the lineup out and we were, they put us behind the 10. And I looked and the 10 was literally the last car in line.

And I was like, how the hell is he up here in front of us if he's the last car in line? But they said he never, never stopped for the wreck. He just kind of checked up behind it and then came through, which I, you know, I guess I'm fine with. But it's, it's, it's better they take their time to get it right at that point. They have to. You have to because that's race changing. The time, oh, you weren't doing the Xfinity race. When?

No, was it the Xfinity race? No, it was a truck race. This year? Yeah, this year, this week. When the yellow came out when Zane was on Pid Road, that was a challenging line. Oh, yeah. And he rolled it. We, yeah, he kept rolling.

And, like, we didn't hear shit for a little while because it was, okay, what's the rule? All right, now, where are these guys at compared to these guys? And it was, like, there was, like, both the spotter stand. I forget, I think Weddle was the spotter official. He's like, yeah, Tower. Tower position of the 91. Tower, there's like, standby.

It's like we're trying to figure this out. Because it was, it throws you off. There's written rules about, you know, if the guy pits and he beats you to the line or, is it start finish line? But that he didn't pit.

He kept driving through. So then that throws it off even a little bit more. So it was. But I mean, no matter, I don't think there's ever going to be a time where that is the costh comes out in the middle of a cycle like that.

There's no, I don't think it'll ever be, okay, this is running order. I mean, you got to go back. and look because there's so many people like if somebody's on pit road he's doing 55 mile an hour you get guys doing 180 on the track that are passing him so you got to go back and look yeah

so and it's and that's that that's uh part of the reason sometimes why you don't see cautions during pit cycles when it's when it's possible or probably should be maybe uh well i know bret you've harped on this a few times now just the overall track experience being a struggle you were finally back at the track for the first time and forever. What did you guys think of the full weekend? I thought we had a good crowd yesterday. The weather was honestly great. Thank goodness for the breeze.

I think it would have felt like 120 if we didn't have that breeze. I mean, I'll go back to what I said. I mean, we're not on track enough. Like I looked at the Kansas schedule because that's my next race and the cup cars hit the track for the first time on Saturday evening and then you race Sunday. and then I went and looked at the Iowa track schedule, and it's a full three-day weekend for Cup, and I think, you know, for the first ever cup race at Iowa,

that's more of what the fans deserve. And obviously Iowa sold out. I saw online that tickets are going for up to $600, and that there's none available, obviously, from the track. So I'm a bigger fan of making us be a three-day weekend for the Cup series everywhere we go because a lot of our contingencies, as far as attendance, they hang on camping.

People aren't going to come camp for one night. They're not going to do it. We saw that at Bristol this year. You know, the campgrounds at Bristol were empty, and it was with the same schedule. We got on track, I think, at like 4 or 5 o'clock on Saturday, and then they were on, you know, then they were on the race for the race.

So it's obviously, I had a buddy that brought a camper up there, and I was like, why are you camping? Like, we're not on track at all. You know, we're only really there for only need to be there for two days. I mean, listen, our two premier events from a fan experience standpoint, in my mind, have always been speed weeks at Daytona and then speed weeks in Charlotte, because as a fan, you could come set up shop for one day or 10 days in both of those markets and have an absolute blast. And that's all gone away too. So, I mean, we used to roll into town

and be the biggest show on earth, kind of what Barnum Bailey's circus says, but we were literally it, and we've got to figure out how to get back to that. But no, a shout out to all the fans who came out to the Texas race because if I were a fan sitting in the stands having a cold beer, I would say that that was an entertaining race. And I think, again, we thank the drivers for that. I think the tire was garbage. And I think the racing was garbage. The ability to pass was garbage.

But thankfully, the drivers stepped up and made it entertaining. They stepped up by stepping on it. They did. Well, you know, it's, and you see what happens, it's hard to pass, right? So what's going on is guys are, guys know it's hard to pass. And they know that they can, if they can, arrow block or chop your runoff. What'd you do to Briscoe?

What do you call that? That was just us. Probably paying him back for wrecking us and turn one a little earlier. He got in the back of us and knocked us up the racetrack. I think Bubba was just committed to trying to beat him into the corner and lost it. But, you know, you see these guys, like there's multiple instances yesterday where a guy would chop somebody's nose off and then that guy got wrecked. A priest, priest flat out, wrecked Blaney.

I don't know what, I'm sure some Blaney did something. to him to precede that. He ran him up in three and four. I don't see that sitting well with Ford Motor Company. Just, yeah, I would imagine not. A, you've not won a race yet, which I'm sure can talk about later. B, he's your champion. And C, I don't know where Stuart Haas is and good graces with Ford anyway.

And here you go. Here you go dump him. Maybe, or I'm priest, you probably care. I don't think, I don't think you want to be. Is that why you tweeted you change your vote on drivers being cut? No, that wasn't why. He wasn't the only one, though. I mean, you saw, I think Ty and Ricky got into it.

I think Ricky tried to wreck him and missed and wrecked himself. What was Josh Barry doing? I didn't see that one. I didn't see it either. I haven't seen that one. Did you see that one? It's like he was trying to wreck somebody and he missed and he just completely wrecked himself. That's kind of what Ricky did.

I mean, but it, I thought it was something about what the air. Did you take off? Yeah. It was hard to even to put that one. The first one that Josh, it looked to me like the first one. I didn't see the second one when he actually wrecked, but I think he's by himself. The first one I think you're talking about looked to me like he was underneath them and then like made an aggressive move to the right, right before entry and then probably turned a bunch of wheel into it. It just looked to me like he made an aggressive move right and it can't do that.

You can't do that. Yeah. That one baffled me. But did you see the Ricky one? Like Ricky drives into one looking to me, look to me like he's like he's. he's just trying to get to the fifth and towards the end? Towards the end, yeah. And ends up way up the racetrack and it spins out on the eggs.

So that's the caution that really screwed me from. I was about, yeah, I was about to ask that about the strategy. That was like, once you get cycles on your tires, everything evens out. But I think the thing North noting for me here is, you know, obviously I haven't spotted these cars in a while, we ran third from last for the entire first stage until pit stop started. When pit stop started, we stayed out. We ran long. That was our strategy. Great call by Keith Rodden.

Caution comes out. Now we're running. After this thing shakes out, we couldn't get fuel in the car. It was a cluster. But once we got back going, we restarted about 15th, and we ran 15th to 16th. And then obviously stage ends and it's like, man, we ran long. We don't have a ton of laps on our tires, probably 18 to 20 green flag laps. Let's just stay out.

So we stay out and we restarted on the front row. and we run second with the same car that was running fourth from last, and Larson was just starting to catch us on brand new tires. And obviously he was in a class that was on. I thought he was the fastest car hands down until he had his incident where the wheel fell off. But I was in a car run a third from last for 40 laps, and that same car was going to run top five as long as we wanted to until we pit it. Yeah, that's what I talked about that at like the Phoenix race.

I felt like if you took our car with a crane and picked it up and wherever you put it down, that's where it would run. If it was fifth, it would be fifth. Your car was fast. Oh, yesterday was fast. But I'm just saying like that's how this car in general. But it didn't matter how fast for this car was. You would have faded a little bit.

If you didn't make up ground on a restart. You would have faded a little bit as the resident run went on, but not to where he was. Not to where you were. It's just hard to pass. Eric Jones was master of restarts yesterday. He would go three wide to the top. And we ran around. And then he jumped three wide, like two restarts in a road or the high side and passed like three rows of cars.

There was one re. Did you see the one restart with Brisco? I don't remember. Briscoe did it. I forget what restart was. We were towards the front. But he had to pass five rows of cars. Here's what I want to know on that stack because you have all the information. And I don't have stats. I don't have SMT. I don't have all that stuff you guys have. What is the top speed coming off of turn two when you restart about 20th? on the first lap after the Green Falls versus the next lap when you're wide open at speed because to me that tells you how hard that third lane can go on that restart. So I can tell you this. The third lane I asked about yesterday. I asked what the throttle traces were because if we were going to jump up there,

I wanted to give them heads up. And it was just like running the second lane. Yeah, but I'm curious what the speed is because there's a reason that third lane works on a restart and it doesn't work on the next level. It's air. What happened was just, yeah. But you're coming up to speed. You're not wide fucking open when you get to turn one or restart.

Definitely. Yeah, dude, think about you're taking two laps from there. Cars are stretched out this wide. When you go down to turn one in the first lap, the groups is small. So it's two by two row after row. Yeah. There's no air at all. I understand that, but the speed is vastly different too.

It's monkey see monkey do also because the reason, like to your point, the reason why Chase is making up ground is everybody's just bottlenecked. You know what I mean? They're all stacked up. They're not going anywhere. You lift, I lift. Chase goes up and he's got clean air. He's driving by everybody. But then Suarez did it at first that I noticed. I didn't see when Jonesy did it. He did a bunch times. But then Briscoe did it. And then people started to get wise to it. And not so much, they didn't, they didn't mimic that move as much as they just took it away.

Guard it. They just went up there and blocked that top lane a little bit and then you can't go anywhere. And then it would come back to the middle. And then what happens is a lot of times, especially at the end, um, They're fighting for that lane. Yeah. And then they end up running each other too high. And now you're up into shit. And once you get above that, you know, that second or second, you know, two and a half lanes.

You're over. Same thing as the race. So later it gets in the race to, you don't want to be on the outside. Yeah. And restarting up near the front. So, TJ, stage one, I don't think you were very good stage one, were you? No. I mean, you were back there kind of me.

No. We just took four tires every time until. You ran along? And then, well, we were along at the end there. The other times you did. But the first time did you run along? Uh, no. We just pitted like normal. And then we took four. Everyone was trying to, everyone was messing around with two and stuff. So that hurt. Yeah, we didn't run long until the late in the race. Yeah. You had a good finish, man, P2. Yeah, we were probably 10th to 15th place somewhere in that area. Like if we were just kept going and everything cycled out the same, we were probably going to finish between 10 to 15th, I'd say, probably just outside the top 10. I was looking at laps led last night on the year. And Larson has led 531 laps. He's led the most to any Chevy driver. Denny has led 300. 95 laps the most of a Toyota driver.

Lugano has led 177 laps the most of a Ford driver. 72 of those, though, came at Daytona and Atlanta, which we all know he's good at those places. Then I was looking at TJ, who I think is having a good year. By the way, right on the cusp of making up points, you let six laps all year. No, we haven't had a very good year. So when you look at, what does it take to win? It's leading laps, obviously. Yeah, we're not.

But you were in the right spot, right time. It could have easily walked away with the win. Our strategy put us, you know, and with that race, it was catching the cautions. So you catch caution right time, and we did. You know, I heard, and we have it on our notes here, and I heard it mentioned on the tear down last night, you know, the concerns about the Ford winless street. I'm not so much concerned about the windless street

because I am the fact that they're not in contention to win. You know what I mean? It's not like they're just getting, I mean, you're obviously in contention yesterday being second, but you're not a second place car yesterday. Which driver in the Ford camp do you think has led the second most laps? Blaney? No, it's going to be somebody off the wall.

fucking Todd Gilliland. Yeah. Oh, yeah, from Atlanta. Yeah, but that is, but, but yeah. Holy cow. Yeah, I mean, then Larson has led three times more laps than the best Ford driver. And then Todd Gilliland is second.

He ain't a flagship guy. Nothing against Todd. No. And, you know, it's just for me, it's, you know, like I said, there's not, I mean, I, there's no, there's, I think there's four guys right now in the playoffs in Ford's, like if it ended today. I mean, that's, you know, what, a quarter of the playoffs is? So I just, that would be my concern is the fact that not only have they not won, which is not easy to win, but they really haven't been in position to win other than maybe the first two.

Yeah, I don't think, I definitely don't think everything is as strong as we wanted it to be right now, but I don't think it's, you know, I know there's things in the pipeline that are being worked on and ironed out, just like everybody. I mean, and they'll keep working on it. I mean, last year they were in Phoenix, they pretty much dominated. Is that something that we could potentially not see this year? Or do you think they'll regain themselves? It's a long time to Phoenix. I don't know. It could be, I'm going to tell you that, like, the end of the year completely fits

Ryan Blaney's, like, all his best tracks are like the last three tracks of the year, four tracks. So I could easily see, you know, one of them guys getting hot again. You never know. I mean, we were, who knows? Maybe Brad wins two, three, or whatever, and then he goes on it. You just never know. I don't want to put Freddy on the spot when I say this, but talk about needing to be hot at the end of the year. 2311 pit crews, holy giveaway races.

Like Tyler Reddick had a massive lead yesterday. He had a huge lead, yeah. You come in with a six second. I couldn't find him one time. I look up. I'm like, there's Denny. Damn. Okay.

Yeah. And I know how competitive, obviously, Denny and Michael Jordan are. But, man, 2311 has got to get their pit crew problems fixed. It was, yeah, I think Nick said he had like a five and a half second. leading and he came out behind Danny. Second half behind him. Yeah. Yeah.

But how do you fix that at this point? You don't. You just keep working and get better. I mean, you're not going to, unless you've got some developmental guy that you can bring up, you're not going to go hire anybody away from another team in the middle a year like this. And it's so much different. You know, these guys have been under contract for years, Casey.

But they've not been in long-term contracts for years like they are now. I mean, they're locking these guys in for five years. And that's longer than most driver contracts are for just for the record for you fans that are listening. But there's such a big emphasis on pit stops and not for all the right reasons. And those guys make a big, big check. They got to make a big, big paycheck. There's a lot more to it. A lot more to spotters make, by the way.

And when the race is on the line, it's our job to keep the driver safe to keep them out of accidents and to help them win. And it's also the pit cruise job. There's a lot more to it than just, you know, the timing of the stop. There is, you know, I don't know the details of. You know, how is Tyler getting into the box? Well, was there, you know, was there, they've been qualifying good. So I'm guessing their pit stall selection has been pretty good. But there's just things, there's a lot of factors that.

And it's just like a restart who's good at restarts. Well, there's so many factors that matter at that as well. But, you know, did Tyler stop long? Because if he stops two feet shorter or two feet longer of them where them guys need them, it's, I mean, you're probably going to lose boss. It looked, it looked to me by eye that they had some kind of issue on the right rear. their last that green flag stop was 14.3 seconds yeah that's a little long and and denny's was 10.8 yeah so yeah NASCAR also announced that the cw will broadcast the final eight infinity races this year what do you guys think of that news

i it's interesting the way it's going down it sounds to me bob was feeding us some infomium brett about well i'm too dumb to understand why so i asked why yeah uh you know it's it sounds like NBC it's still NBC production. It's still going to be the NBC crew, the NBC booth, but they have basically sold the rights to CW for these last eight races. And it sounds to me, according, you know, Bob made a great point about NBC, which is concerning to me, NBC wanting to get their NASCAR races off of their schedule so that they can fill it with college football games. So that's, that's a concerning thing for me to hear. But if you're NBC, you get money from CW. It's a win-win. You get rid of a product that you're not supporting next year, and you get inventory now to go sell for your network.

So you get double, if not more than double the money that you were going to get holding this inventory. I think it's a huge win for the sport because we're putting some of the best racing in America on its new channel in the playoffs with all of the hype of the NASCAR Xfinity Series playoffs. So brilliant on CW's part to get their brand out there. More people will hear about CW, in my opinion, in the last, you know, eight races of this year than they've ever heard about it in their lives. I'd never heard of CW until they announced that this deal was even going to happen next year, T.J. So I think for CW for Xfinity, it's brilliant. And for an NBC, it's a business move with probably big, you know, outcomes to the bottom line. I think the, and the thing that, like, okay, first of all, I don't want to hear, but you can't find a CW because you have it.

Everybody has it. Just look on Twitter. Even if you got bunny years. Yeah, if you got bunny years, you've got the CW. And I know you can't, I promise you right now, I could not tell you what channel the CW is. But I'll know it here pretty soon. And you only got to find it once.

We're not moving around. The Xfinity Series will live on CW for the next eight races and then a year, at least a year. I'm sure it's multi-year deal. So I get it. I don't know what channel it is either right now, but I'm going to find it. You're going to find it one time and you're never going to have to look for it again. So TJ's probably, I don't know, are you old enough to remember the bunny ears with tinfoil on the end of them? I never used tinfoil.

No, tinfoil helped you get like a better signal. I'm the oldest guy. I don't know if that's legit. I don't know. It's for real. That's southern ingenuity. Yeah. Wow.

I mean, it wasn't true. It never worked. Yeah, I don't. I just think it was. Have you ever chewed on tinfoil with a cavity in your mouth? No. Why would you chew tinfoil to begin with? I don't know, but try it.

You got any cavities? Why would you do that? Fillies. You have a feeling in your mouth? I did have a feeling. He's a complete. You've never done anything that will, did you ever put your tongue on the little nine-volt batteries?

Yes. Yeah? Okay, well, do the tinfall thing. I had not surprised. Don't you have a joke about batteries and something else? I'm not telling you. I'm not asking you all any more hypothetical questions. You've already asked that one on here before.

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Damn. Where did he come from? First topic. After Byron spun Chastain during the final overtime attempt, William had this to say afterwards. He blocked me late, which is understood, but I was already there. I hate that it happened, but it is the last lap. I'm going to take the run. Of course, Chasine declined to comment. Clearly, a little bit frustrated there. Spot on, spot off, Freddie.

I'm spot on for William's comments. I, and watching it live, I thought William just wrecked the hell out of him. The dog food out of it. Yeah. And then I was sitting on the plane with Lambert, and I got a video or somebody posted a video on Twitter. And you can see Ross clearly. comes down on him. And he's trying to, he's trying to block that, you know, Byron's got a big run off of two. He's turning down. And he's definitely coming down the hill

to block him and Byron's just there and he's not. I mean, he could, I guess he could have cut him a break if he wanted to you, but why would you? Why would you? Um, so he just runs in the back of him and gets rid of him. And that, listen, you, like, if anybody is probably accused of arrow blocking more than anybody in the sport right now, it's probably Ross. He's probably the most aggressive at doing it. So this is probably somebody taking the opportunity to send a message like, you're not going to, you're not going to block me on the last lap of this race. It's the last lap though, too, though.

I mean, if that's 30 to go, I don't think William Wrecks him. But, yeah, I'm spot on for that. You know, you can't, you have to set the set, like you said, you got to set the tone. You have to set the boundaries on how a guy is going to drive you because if he keeps doing that and you keep lifting, he's just going to do it time and time again. He slid up in front of us when we caught him. And Brad had to lift off a two because he decided to go up and said it, he was projecting the bottom, and we went to go to the, we went to the high side, and here he comes up off the corner and forces us to lift, because we don't want to tear the nose off or just do something dumb.

And, like, it could have been done there, too. Like, at some point, you can only do it so many times before somebody is not going to lift. And William ended up being that guy. I heard Williams' comments on PRN, and I was 100% spot off because the replay I saw was from, like, behind the cars, and it looked like William drove through his left rear and just wiped him out. And I was like, William's crazy. And then I saw the in-car camera angles from both cars overlap with one another. And it's very obvious Ross comes down.

So I am spot on for Williams' comments. I'm spot off for Ross not commenting. Man, this could start a little bit of a feud, which Ross is in a feud with everybody. I don't know how it's hard. I mean, it'd be fun if it did. If Ross thinks he didn't do anything wrong, then he's mad. Does he, but. Obviously, you declined to comment before seeing the replay.

Like, do you think that they're... I mean, to me, he knows what he was doing inside the car, but I'll tell you this about Ross having worked with him. When he puts that helmet on, he don't know what's going on. He's just on kill mode. And it's good for us all because it's entertaining. But Ross made a big mistake here. And the thing that's got to happen with his, from a driver perspective,

and even the spotter helping him, he's got to realize he's not catching the leader at that point, because he's not. He's also got to realize the momentum from behind him is coming, which is why he tried to throw the block. So once you get too wide, he's dead in the water right there. So his mistake cost William a spot and a point.

His mistake cost him a finish. 27 or so points probably roughly. What did he finish? 30 seconds. 30 seconds. 29 points. That's massive. So he's got a...

And he got a wrecked race car. And you got a wrecked race car. I mean just that was a I thought it was all William Byron and I now think it's all Ross Chastain What did you say 29 points? I don't know Ish?

Ish, yeah probably That's almost three spots in the standings Wow Which is a lot at the end of the season That's three playoff points at the end of the season If you're in the top 10 It is three spots I'm sorry Yeah

Where do you fall to? He is now 11th If he gave him 30 points he'd be Ross is going to have to comment on it as some point, Casey. We're probably pretty decently close to that. To your point. Like, he's not going to get to Talladega and reporters not bring it up. Right. So, so I get that he didn't want to comment. Um, I'm not a big fan of no comment, but I mean. I think we assume that. I mean, I just not. Yeah, that's fair. That's what makes our support so beautiful is these guys

get put on the spot all the time. Right. I don't want to talk about it. Well, no shit. I bet you don't. But that's what makes this sport cool. That's why we're here though. So you do talk about I guess we'll find out next week. Yesterday's race at Texas proves the track does not need to be reconfigured. Spot on, spot off, TJ. Ah, man, I'm spot off. I still don't. They're just the only, I mean, it's interesting because the lanes you take in this,

there's two racetracks say we only run on one of them, the bottom half of it, really. And I don't know, it's just not. Not. Exfinity ran on the bottom half. Cup didn't run on the bottom half. Xfinity moved up too. Yeah. That's what I'm saying.

Exfinity did move up. A little bit. But when you say move up, they were not. They weren't like where we used to run up. That's what I'm saying. I don't think we're running half of it. We still have half the race ride that's not being used roughly. More than half.

So I don't know. It makes it challenging because you're taking all these guys and putting them into this tighter window, and it's a little treacherous if you get on the high side. but man, I hate to think what a race would be like with all these cup guys in cars or like these fancy cars. It would be amazing. I mean, I think we end up probably working the groove up even more at times than I, well, I mean, especially, you know, if there's more competitive cars too. You know, if you had more competitive drivers. That's what I'm saying.

So it's, I think that would be a great show. I think that the, I, not that I disagree. I think that the reason we can move up in three and four is Kyle talked about after the truck race You could still feel the effects of the traction compound Whatever they was resident a little bit You know they're still there if that's not there you're not using that It's the only reason we run up in one and two

Yeah, and it's just like you said It's it's frustrating to go in there and we're not using half the race track Probably more than half the race track And then you've got you know three and four There's bumps over there that yeah You're basically playing Russian roulette Like whether you know these guys Danny Hamill is pretty good

it. He's not, he's not bad. And he just went in there knowing, I've got to commit to this. And if I, what's happening is it seems to me like they, they're hitting his bumps and bottoming out. And that's what's, you know, and you saw it with Hamlin. You saw it with Christopher Bell. You saw it with. So I had to ask Brad about that. And he says, it's not just the bump. It's just the way the air is and these cars too. Because those guys, he's like, all of a sudden the front tires grab at some point. And then it just swings the back. Zero side force. Jimmy Johnson. I mean, there's. Kyle Bush, Jimmy Johnson, right by themselves on on Saturday. Yeah, like it's just, I mean, we always ask for it to be challenging. We want it to challenge drivers.

We wanted to make it hard for them. But that, it's not, I don't, it's not the same to me. It's not, they're not challenged like they're going in the corner and then they're just losing it. It's something else, you know, on the racetrack that's affecting their balance of, you know, the hit in a bump or whatever. But I would rather have bumps to deal with than the arrow stuff. I'll tell you that much. In the 2000s, when we went bananas would add mile and a halfs. We've lost Kentucky.

We've lost Chicago land. We've lost Atlanta. That's three mile and a half. Obviously, we still run on Atlanta. It races nothing like a mile and a half racetrack. How many more are you going to lose? Yeah. When in theory, Freddie, this is your best racing.

This is the best the mile and a half program's ever been. But you're saying reconfigure it? How are you going to reconfigure Texas when you look at that place? So the, in a perfect world. Dynamite? A perfect world. Are you going to blow up the condos in turn two? Because they matter.

I don't think. Probably change something about the configuration of turns one and two, though. I think that in it. Who the f*** paved homestead and where are they at? Can we please go get them out of their grave and bring them back to life and let them fix this racetrack? Well, like I was going to say, in a perfect world, I would love to see another mile and a half true oval like homestead. It's not going to happen. The way the footprint is, the way the walls are built down the front straightaway.

I think we're locked into this. being a mile and a half with dog leg dog legs you know you're not I heard some people in Jordan I think was last night saying you know a three quarter miles short track would be great did he not watch richmond they're not they're not he's and he's one of the people that doesn't like richmond the most I think uh but that that's not going to happen I think that you're locked in I think that the thing that makes the most sense is just go back to what we had like the reason that there was nothing really truly terrible about the racing before it was just the fact that we had wepers that we were there for a week if it rained.

So, you know, I think that just getting back to where we could use the entire racetrack is a big step forward for us and we have to figure out what that, whatever it's Let me ask you this. Why, is the Xfini race a bad race? Yeah, I mean, it wasn't great. You didn't think like, but I mean, it's better than the cup race, but it wasn't a, the thing about the Xfini cars is those guys can get sideways and they can drive us to, like Sam Mayer was sideways.

Sliding around. And the difference in those cars and our cars. cars is you can still use if you run him down you can follow him off into that corner and see his see him get loose without even doing anything you can also get him loose that's what i'm saying you can you can manipulate the air from behind the guy rather than and that and that enables you to get beside of him and there's i think there's more of a side draft in the exfini cars and trucks too so if he gets beside you but then you side draft him pulling back and then you go to the next corner he doesn't have any air on his door now so now you're really right now it's a you know it's it's and they're sliding everywhere i just the cup guys can't do

that you follow somebody in the corner we've literally seen them go to the middle one and two and get six ends from each other and the guy behind just had the biggest moment ever and the guy in front just drive away you know and i don't know i think that they think there should be more the drivers should have more offensive tools to use rather than um just be stuck you know and i don't mean John Hunter drive through them. I mean actually manipulate there where they can get loose. You don't like John Hunter. We'd run over us again on lap three. So why were you in his way? He told me you backed into him. Yeah, we probably did off of two. We just came right back into him. So you should have been on the gas off of two. Yeah, we should have been in the gas there.

If he hit you on entry, that's, that's his fault. He hit you on exit. That means you're in the way. Yeah, we're two by two, 25th. We're going somewhere. You were right there probably. No, he was 35th. Yeah. We actually, we actually came back two years. more. But again, lap three of a 267 lap race and there was a checker fly. You think it's too early to be aggressive? I mean,

I do, but not, I mean, everyone has their own opinion. I mean, there's only 265 to go. He's got to do it. 64. That's not that many when you think about it. It's one three hours. Every spot. I mean, actual contact I'm coming through on the late exit of two. Like, okay. Have at it, buddy.

We'll see you off of four when you're wrecking. I love getting T.J. Riled up. Oh, I was so riled up on that. You're right up now. Because, dude, you're there. you work all week on a car I don't but the guys do you go there you qualify and we made our own luck

qualifying bad we practiced good qualified bad and you make your own luck put yourself back there but there's just like where are you going at this point like the race there's going to be so many things that happen it just doesn't make sense to me but that's he said he was going to the front to the front up to 23rd I think actually

maybe fifth I don't remember somewhere in that area oh spot on spot off Chase Elliott is a championship four contender after his Texas win. Well, he does drive for Hendrick Motorsports, so that helps. That would sneak up on you? He does have a win. That also helps.

You look at the last three races, what are they going into that thing? Is it Vegas Homestead Martinsville? Yep. Leading into the Homestead Championship in Phoenix. Turns out Hendon Motorsports is pretty good at all them tracks. he's led double the amount of laps this year from a percentage standpoint. Last year he led like 2.5% of laps the whole season this year. He's 4.6%.

He led 14% of the race yesterday. When you look back at when he was really hot, he was close to like that 10% lapse lead mark, which is crazy hot, crazy insane, right? It's too early to say that he is a favorite because to me the favorites are Kyle Larson, Denny Hamlin from a speed perspective. but Kyle Larson, he could screw up a two-car funeral right now. Not William Byron? I mean, William Byron, too, obviously he's third.

But for me, that fourth driver is, I mean, same deal, the 20 car. He's stupid fast everywhere, but he can't put it together. But you can't say he's not a guy, but he's certainly not the favorite, you know. But, man, you, I mean, going back to history, even when T.J. won a championship, it's a big deal to win that first race of that round of eight. Yeah, Vegas. Yeah, I mean, some of the stats, I, you know, they said, I was listening to Tear Down last night, and I heard them say, you know,

Alan was kind of pretty adamant, maybe even a little standoffish in his press, you know, press conference, because they're like, people are asking him, like, are you back? And he's like, what do you mean back? We've never gone anywhere, you know, and to your point, he was much more dominant in the past, but to hear some of the stats of, you know, right now he's fourth in points. He's got the fourth best average running position. you know the last year I didn't realize that you know after obviously last year wasn't a great year for him after he got injured but he still had the fifth best average finish of the see of anybody for the season so I think we expect so much at a chase and put him on such a pedestal that even when he's just consistently really good it's not enough and you and you expect him to be that guy that's leading 10% of the laps and and winning races or in contention to win and listen I felt like over the last I don't know two three weeks we talked about on here maybe about a month ago that there was a huge gap between the 24 and the 5 versus the 9 and the 48.

And I think Chase has done a lot to close that gap in the last two weeks. They had a lot of speed in Martinsville right there in contention all day with them, other two. And then obviously got a 1, 2, 3 finish. And then yesterday, obviously. And we talked about this when Raja was here. By no means that I think Chase had the best car yesterday. I don't think that there was really any point in the race where I thought Chase had the best car yesterday. But if you're consistent enough to hang around that top five, top seven,

wins find you. You know, some guys spin out, you know, you get multiple restarts, and then you take advantage of, you know, the restart with Reddick and Danny get the lead. And then we talk about how hard it is the past. Once you get the lead, if you can just get away on restarts, you're not going to catch you. I think, you know, I don't know if I'm ready to write Chase into the championship four quite yet, but he's trending that direction. I mean, he's obviously putting together a very solid year so far,

but we're way too early into the season. I mean, you could, you know, you could go through a summer slump, and then we're going to, it can fade away. You never know. But I think, you know. Media want to talk about it. I get why. They're always going to.

I pulled up last year's finishes. Vegas, 32nd. That ain't good. Homestead, 15th. That ain't good. Martinsville, 17th. Well, no, you ain't going to make the final four if you do that. Yeah.

No. Yeah. And honestly, yesterday, we, we struggled getting going on resarts yesterday, and we lined up behind Denny. And we probably cost any, we cost any of the lead because we weren't pushing him on that restart when the caution came out quick. Chase was able to be in front of him.

And Chase didn't even, he never cleared Denny, but he had a nose in front of it when the caution came out. And now he's a control of restarts. And now he's controlling it. So it's not, this isn't like, oh man, Chase Shelley just went up there and, you know, won this thing. Because I'm not 100% sure he passes Denny straight up. I mean, he had numerous chances. I don't think he does, honestly, because when we caught Chase, he was riding about seven car lengths behind Denny and kind of just staying between seven and ten back. And, And, you know, Denny is, this isn't Denny's first race. Denny knows what to do when they get there.

He's going to make it very hard on Chase. If Chase gets in within three carlings, Danny is going to probably do something to knock them back 10. I think the three of us agree. The five and 24 are faster than the nine every week. Speed-wise, yes. I feel like the nine, I feel like the nine is much more consistent than them other two. You know, I feel like the five, you talked about it.

The five is a fast corner. race track, it seems like every week, and has one win to show for it. Um, they just can't. That's kind of been Larsen. That's kind of Larsson. When he first started, that's that was like Larsson too. I mean, even going back that far, but I mean, especially with, with them guys, the one year, obviously he dominated won the championship. But the, like we saw last year, we saw it this year, crazy fast. And I was literally standing there watching them come down the front stretch under yellow. And I seen something rolling around. And it rolled into the grass and I was like,

oh yeah, almost looked like a wheel nut. I'm like, nah, couldn't be a wheel nut. And I looked at my right and Larson's smoking on the apron. I was like,

oh, the wheel's going to fall off to five, I guess. Yeah. So, you know, it's just, and I don't know what happened.

I'm sure that, you know, some kind of issue, but then he rolled to the bottom. And then he got hell for two. And then he got held for two. And then he still gets it back, but I'm sure it must have done damage to it.

I'll tell you, the 20 car came back. That thing was destroyed. It couldn't pass. Talk about how hard it is to pass. We were behind the 20 with the right front fender. The right rear clips knocked off. I mean, the thing wouldn't meet the wheel.

It was shortened up by like three feet in the one corner there. Couldn't pass it. I'll tell you what did happen is you might have seen this. Denny, he did spend out in front of your favorite driver. All of them. Yeah, there's one in front of them. But, yeah, I mean, I agree with you guys. I think if you're picking a championship four right now, it's the three.

you guys mentioned obviously Danny, Kyle and William. And then obviously we always get to see a wild card get in there or, you know, somebody gets hot late like Blaney last year. But you have to pick a Hendrick or Gibbs car right now, I think. You know, they're the top six in points. So who's the more consistent ones of that? You know, you can't put Christopher Bell in right now over. I think Christopher Bell is much faster than Chase, but they haven't.

Four guys or five guys that are raided. And they're all pretty much Gibbs or Hendricks. So, I mean, Ty Gibbs could get pretty hot. Ty Gibbs' consistency worries me. He's fast everywhere, but he's got to figure it out. Yeah, he, so we, and this is the thing. We caught him yesterday near the end. We were much better than him.

He tries driving to one, and we had ran him down. This is where the experience should, or the, he needs to, this guy just caught me from way back. I'm in a bad spot right here. He drives it into one, super hard trying to stay on the outside of us and just gets loose and goes way up to the wall. It's like at some point, you know, a veteran guy is going to be like, okay, you got me. here i'm just going to let go ahead you're faster go up here and wreck send somebody back to me i'll get a

free spot but instead he loses and he took himself out and i'm going to tell you if he would have been right behind us or within a spot or two of us in late restarts he might have been a factor in that so yeah i had to laugh yesterday i went to text him after the race is over our buddy justin he tries to throw this massive block on us down the backstretch for like 23rd and it didn't work so then we get underneath him now he's really shallow into three and he watched the race track and gets passed by like two more guys and I'm like man I wanted to take them like if you're going to be a dumb a block for 23rd and a back should you better get it done because now you're 27th because you missed the block yeah I wish I could say they had a good run yesterday but I'm not allowed to compliment that team

anymore so dude I'm not going to lie I looked at one time in cask girl was like 15th like racing like like damn that so that was I had two things impressed me this weekend about Rick Ware racing and and I think Casey's going to be surprised by what I'm about to say I think we're all going to be surprised. I found out that they have hired a very experienced PR person and Mike Arning to help them with their public relations work, which I think is a brilliant move on their part. And I also found out that they have their own kitchen in the garage. And for you folks sitting at home and you hear Rick Ware Racing has this own kitchen in the garage, what does that mean? That's a big deal. I mean, we all eat basically from two or three different food vendors. And for Rick Ware Racing to invest

and almost looks like it's in partnership with RFK. It's nice. Dude, Andy, I've known Andy the chef forever, and so he was a chef at Stewart. He's a legit chef. He was the chef at Stuart Haas Racing last year, and he left Stuart Haas Racing, or is no longer with Stewart Haas Racing, and now Rick Ware Racing has their own freaking food tent. It's nice. The culture of Rick Ware Racing has shifted greatly from when, and I'm sorry he's your son,

but it shifted greatly from when Cody where I was driving these cars to where they're at now. They're in a much, much, much better space. And I read B.J. McLeod's comment slash saw the video last week when he was, what show was he on? DJD reloaded. And he said we spent millions of dollars more

and we didn't run one position better. And then I look at the points and they're ahead of the Zane Smith with Spire. They're ahead of Harrison Burton with Penskees slash Woodbrothers. they're way more competitive. Now, it's going to be harder for them to get things that go perfectly for them because of all the things that exist. When you're back in points, you go through tech lasts,

you get a bad qualified draw, you get a bad pit selection. Like, you're in a hole. It's not like those top 10 guys in points. It's a lot harder. But when I found out those two things that are non, because, man, I grew up Roby-H racing 2003 to 2008. He had one marketing person, and one licensing person because he said hiring all those people don't make my cars go fast.

That was his belief. And it was the culture was, I'm going to have more horsepower than you. And I've got Todd Parrott. Obviously, he had a lot of other talented people. But it comes down to people. I think Rick Ware is now in a position where they can attract better people because of the other things that I'm telling you they're doing. They're slowly improving all across the board. And obviously Justin Haley's there and I have a big affinity to him.

and Cass has been I mean we sat here on this show a year ago when it came out and said what the F is he doing and he's out running Collick cars a lot and he didn't yesterday Collick had a good run

I think both guys are top 15 top 16 but in general he's been racing ahead of those guys a lot yeah I think Ty was 16 and Daniel was 20th I would love to compliment them but they get upset every time I talk about them so

I'm not going to mention any more I wonder how Justin and Kaz are their buddies I mean they run like it they run close and I mean, they're competitive. Anytime Justin shows up, Big Isles, Caz is usually with us. Oh, really?

Nice. That's cool. Safe to say. That's good to see those guys. Bromac. Yeah, that's fun. Shifting gears to the Xfinity race, Ryan Seig drove Sam Mayer too clean coming to the checker flag. Spot on, spot off.

Freddie. Spot on. I mean, yeah, spot on. He was too clean. Like, listen, I wish, did you pick up, well, how many starts is Ryan Seag have? Did you look at this stat? Probably 300. I don't know.

It was a bunch. My, like, you, you don't get many opportunities to win races, especially if you've done this for 300 and something races. And that's every series. Yeah. And like, I get it. You know, it was hard to watch because I was spotting for his brother Kyle, obviously. So we put tires on and I knew we were going to be kind of aggressive through traffic. And I was like, listen, the 39's leading.

If he gets away on this restart, you cannot draw a car. caution. So you're going to have to be extra careful, you know, to make sure we don't bring a caution out. So now I'm kind of watching that. I see he got away and I was like, oh, God, he's gone. Like, oh, he took off. I was like, he's gone. They're never going to catch him. I think it was only like 10 to go maybe. He started chipping away at him. So then you just see, and I was talking to a crew chief in the garage yesterday. I don't know if he wants to be named, so I won't name him, but he's like, yeah, it just looked at me like he got tight and I'm not talking about the car. You know, and it's, listen, it's a different world. I think Joey was talking about this on the broadcast.

If you'd never been in that position, that's, that's a a hard spot to be in where you've got a big lead and there's multiple grooves to run. It's, you know, if it's something like Martinsville where you're just, I know I got to run the bottom, I got to hit my mark because that's one thing. But, you know, if you're running the middle or the bottom and he's running the top and he's gaining now, now you've got to change your lane. And I think it's... With 10 to go, he wasn't. I was watching the lap times. Yeah. And he was only a 10th better. I feel like he should have never got off the bottom. I think that, you know... I think you should have went higher on the last lap. But I'm saying before he caught him.

I felt like he caught him because he started moving around. It was only a 10th. He was And I was like, dude, this is over. He's going to drive away. And it was like a 10th. And then it went to, okay, there's two tens. Then it went to three. And I was like, oh, this is going to get close. Yeah.

At the end of the day, my biggest issue with it is like you're coming down to front straightaway, side by side for your first career win, you got to stuff that guy in the wall. Like you've got to run him in the fence earlier. You've got to do something. I guess that wasn't your tweet on Cal Tracer then. And then he went down clean. I'm like, who the fucking tweeted this? Must have been John.

Yeah. I mean, it's not the right thing to do, but I can apologize in Victory Lane with my trophy. Like, it's like, here's my trophy. I'm really sorry about what I had to do to you. And let me tell you something. If the rolls were reversed, Sam Mary would have his ass on the wall. So, you know, it's just, I think Sam would use them up. So you, I get it.

It's not the way, the right way to raise. It's not what you would love to see. What would Ty Gibbs do? That's what I would just ask myself. Run that son of a bitch in the fence early, you know. As soon as he gets his front tires are right, right, right. as soon as you see the beginning of his car, you come up. Yeah.

Like, because you're not going to get turned at that point. If he's right here as soon as you see that, knows, you know, you just got to drag him against the fence and scrub his speed. You don't have to, like, wreck, wreck, wreck. You just drag him against the wall. I was sitting here looking at the top five teams since 2019 when X really races. Gibbs, junior motor sports, colleagues, Stuart Haas, children. I don't see Ryan Seagst.

I don't want team on here anywhere. No. Man, you cannot not win that race. And I was watching the same thing you're watching. A lot of times, the gap getting so much smaller. And I'm thinking, is this dude in his mirror? Is he freaking the hell out? Like, you're giving this race away.

But then they took the white. And I was like, man, he's still got a chance to win. He's going to win. He's going to win. And he didn't win. And it's his fault. Yeah. If you're going to give away a lane, or you don't, I don't know why.

Like, you don't let Sam get a run on you down the backstretch. And if he comes off on the bottom, Sam had been running up. So you know where he's going to go. You've got to take that away. Could your phone be any more obnoxious? Mine? I don't hear it. You just showed like everybody's like everybody's looking around.

What is it? I seen a very comment about that. At least some of the female listeners were trying to figure out what. I didn't know you can make it by the brain. I didn't even get it. It was just. It just was.

You didn't know that? I don't know. I don't have no miss call. I didn't get an alarm. Everybody is like looking like where is this conference? I was going to reach over and turn it off for it. I know. I don't see it doing.

anything. I don't let it turn it up. That's another issue you have. Oh. I hate he didn't win. I was, man, I was really, obviously, being part of that team now. I don't think it need to get to the point where we needed to put him in the wall. No.

I think he could have drove a better one and two on the last lap and it's not even a factor. You win a race. You go to Talladega to ask for cash eligible. You're in the playoff. Like, this is a life-changing moment for this guy and his team. And let's be honest, he's probably got a shot at Talladega. That's what I'm saying. So a really good shot.

That's exactly what I'm telling. That's exactly what I'm telling you. Like, holy, it drives me nuts. You know what they say? Nice guys finish second. Now it's time for our favorite segment, Reaction Theater, where it's your turn to be heard.

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Get pissed over the ending. But I just have one simple question. What is Jimmy Johnson doing out there being the Daryl Waltrip? And I'm talking the last three years of this generation. I'm just going to ask a question. What's your doing going out there, finishing last, not even making races. That man's a great racer. What the fuck is he doing here?

Whatever he wants. Yeah, he's a seven-time champion. I'm pretty sure he doesn't really care about your opinion. I watched the Darrowelection play out, and it was painful. I don't think we're to the painful part for this yet for Jimmy. And look, they won't expand. There's a lot of talk about them trying to go to three full-time teams. Jimmy's a great guy to lay the foundation for it.

Got his first lead lap finishing this car, so it's hard. I can't sit here in MF, Jimmy. Johnson. He went to He went to He went to He went to He wanted to

Who cares? Jimmy wants to run a cup car Let him run a cup car If he spins out He spins out He spins out Who gives

Who cares? If Jimmy's having fun That's all It really matters Holy Holy guacamole Are y'all sure

This is Texas There racing Matt The Xinity race was Awesome And the cup race It's pretty good too Oh by the way

Denny's great I agree with that guy I agree with that I agree with his last part I agree with all three parts Yeah Part of my language but Ryan Preece is a

man, I mean, what the hell? Oh. Are you team Ryan on that? That guy's calling from the bathtub. That hot tub. That guy was definitely in the hot tub. Yeah. I mean, there was more to it than just that.

I'm sure. I don't know if that necessarily deserved to be, destroy a guy. That's a place where you don't do that, in my opinion. You don't just go in the corner. turn a guy at Texas motor speedway? Not like that. I mean, but hey, I mean, everyone has their own ways.

One of the worries for me there, especially is you've got a lot of run on. You know, you're going to, if you spin a guy, he's going a long way before he hits something. Go on. Probably also from the hot tub. He's just got out of the tub from their windless streak. Probably damn. Taste one. And that chump, Byron just straight dunk the watermelon man.

I hope the watermelon man dumps that boy Byron in the face. Oh, punk. Well, unfortunately for you, sir, that was Ross's fault, I think. Well, the checker flag just finally fell after NASCAR tried to give it to their golden boy. But the racing gods had their say and actually made him work for it. Oh, by the way, Byron? You're just chastain chastain Good job, buddy

That's Man I think I wish people I know these people are reacting Probably in the moment And I swear in the moment I was like damn William wrecked the hell out of him

But when I saw it later I was like Not so much William Byron Just driving the backer off Chastain finally having a good day Chance to win Stumped us

Can't stand him Who can't stand William Byron He's like the nicest guy Yeah and he doesn't Yeah What angle Did these people watch from? Well, I'm telling you

They didn't see that in-car camera The lot of the angles I saw Were not good for William And then when I saw that in-car The same one Brett saw It laid over It's Chase's car I mean Ross's car

And William's car It was very obvious What happened Thank you God Thank you Lord Jesus for this Oh my God I'm crying right now I'm killed out

I'm sorry I am Was that you I'm not sure, but I think he might be a Chase Elliott fan. I think it's if two dudes I was waiting on at the airport all night. They recorded that on the way. 100%. Concerned about that person.

Hey, guys. Just want to congratulate Chase Elliott and winning the race today. I feel like this is about as much as excitement as I can give him. About as much as he puts out other than race is. Well played. Kind of reminds you that guy like you knew in high school And you're like, oh, no, he really made it Yeah, but you know, guy still is a bit, though

Nobody really likes him. Jeez. I don't think Chase is a fuck at all. No. I don't either. I think he just comes off very dry. Yeah. And it's just his personality.

Well, he don't have that cute accent his dad had. That was what was attractive for his dad. That was a cute accent? Yeah. I mean, there's a lot of other cute things. So I think he's doing okay. Oh, you think Chase is hot? A lot of people do.

I think that's a valid comment. T.J. You think Chase's a lot? I don't answer to that. Did you hear? Did her play about a no? That was not a no, by the way. I'm just not a year.

I'm just ignoring your question. Did Herm tell you about Coda real quick? About the security guard? He goes, security guy looks at her. He goes, security guy looks at her. He was being nice to him and he's like, oh, well, thank you. I don't normally say this to guys. You got pretty eyes.

To her? To Herm said that? Wow. This is getting awkward. Don't, do not go out with Freddie in St. Louis. He's probably going to be mad. I said this guy.

I'm over when the badgers he'd dieing over there. Oh, my God. Well, I know they say it's, uh, it's and butts were candy and nuts, man. But if Larson did not lose that right rear tire, he would have smoked the field, in my opinion. But again,

none other but. NASCAR has got to be happy with that happening because Texas got a great race. This might be the first Jeff Gluck poll at Texas in years. That's going to be voted most likely yes than no. So why? Listen, Tiger Woods won the Masters for us yesterday. I mean, Chase Elliott won, Texas Motor Speedway, his windless streaks over. All the right things happen.

I just don't want NASCAR to get lost and think that that was a good product and a good race because it was not. I, 100% I voted yes in the polling like Freddie because I thought it was a good entertaining race. I thought the right guy won. I thought it was a lot of lead changes. I mean, we had all the things, but the product was not good. No, the reason it's not sold to you is because I said it was entertaining. There was a reason entertaining because of all the cautions.

All them restarts. The restarts are very entertaining. But you're coming off of too bad. races also that this that lower the bar a lot to real bad race boy Brissa really spoiled us didn't it yeah we went from we went from the clouds to like but by mistake we got a good tire at Bristol we ain't had a good tire since I I still don't know about that I still think if it's 70 degrees we go back there that tire's not going to act that way but we'll see I don't know if the tie I still just think there's you can't play offense at times when you should be able to so

Hey y'all just wanted to come on here real quick and just let you know from a fan's perspective of how today went. I was sitting over in turn one and today I noticed that the fan zone, normally it's on this little midway and they went ahead and put the merch trailers on the main road and that spread everything out and that was a huge win. As far as the track goes, I kind of like it because it's challenging. I know the drivers don't like it because it's not, they think it's not really good racing, but I think it's just a challenge that they don't like. If they are going to reconfigure it, I was sitting there thinking of what they could do, staring at that turn all day.

And I think maybe if you move that bottom line up and turn it into almost like a Darlington, you're not getting an Atlanta vibe off that to make them run closer to the wall. That's the first time somebody's ever sent me a DM, like, hey, you've got to listen to my calls. So I thought it'd be like hot takes. Yeah, you go. That's the last time. Yeah, I would just like, like what's going on that. I'm just like your DMs are open.

That's kind of hot. Yeah, I leave my DMs are open. Slide in there. Most of them call DM me and complain about you. Brett blocked me. My, half my DMs are, can you get Brett to unblock me? That's mine too. I think I should all screenshot it.

I can't. And I can tell you why I'm blocked it. Oh, there's so many. Or it starts off with like, hey, I love the show. I tag bread, but he can't see it anyway. So. Or can you please share this with Brett? It's hard to get blocked.

Like, y'all think it's easy. It's really, you're kidding me. That might be the dumbest thing you've ever said. Oh, this guy liked a tweet that I disagree with. Blocked. You're the most dramatic person. Oh, I have no words. If Freddie sends out a tweet and somebody's an asshole to Freddy, I do block them.

You're going to be a little bit of Freddy and I don't want to read their tweet. You block people because they spell something wrong. No. No. If you have been personally blocked, by Brett. Please use our number to call in and let us know what you think. And why did he block you? Yes.

704, 802-9572. Let us know what you think of not only Brett's thoughts. It's going to be our record number of calls next week. It is. 1,500 people calling in next week. Yeah. How many you got blocked? How many thousands?

If you, you can see it, I think. Okay. I don't know how to do it. I don't. I don't have to find it. If you're listening. and I have blocked you. I'm so glad that you're listening

of the show, but there's a reason why you got blocked. How do I find? The thing is, the thing is we want to know, the thing is we want to know if you know why you got, because everyone that sends me a message is like,

Brett block me and I don't know why. That's it. Do you know how to find it? No, I'm trying. Oh, she knows how. Hold on a minute. There you go.

I found it. I found it. Go to your settings. It's going to be thousands. Like I'm telling you. Settings and support. And then settings and privacy. It's like muted.

1,540 block. 27 are muted. 2,700 muted? No, 27 are muted. I didn't even unmooted people. I screwed that up. So 1,540 blocked accounts. Good gosh, man.

That's not that mean. Let's unblock somebody. Just pick one at random and unblock. All right. I have 100. You blocked 100? Do you have blocked 100? You probably are all.

TJ sucks. All right. It's all Casey stuff. Is there any good race fans that y'all know their Twitter name? Let me see. Just pick out a good name. All right. Trackhouse fan club.

Trackhouse fan club. Maybe I'm blocked there. There we go. That Schultz. Trackhouse fan club. And it's at fan track house. All right. You are our lucky unblocker today.

We should do this every week. Yeah. Tell me why I should unblock you. But the problem is this idiot is going to get blocked again. That's what's going to happen because they can't not be a claim. I'm going to tweet this guy or girl. Congratulations. You think this is good mojo for the day or something?

It's Jason Cholz. It's Jason Cholz. By the way, I passed Jason twice. Jason's big time now. He does, we don't know. We do not exist to Jason. I run it to Jason in the bars nowadays. I don't know.

He's branching outlaw. Jason and old Neb been outlaw. Yeah, Jason. I saw him twice at Martin's Zone. He just walked on straight by. He's too big now. Man, those were some great calls this week. Not only does Consumer Cellular bring you reaction theater every week,

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Let us know what you thought of the race. Let us know why Brett blocked you. This first question is from I see Joe. A lot of talk over the weekend on parody. And I want to know if more parody. Who's Perry? Parity. What does you mean by that?

Parity. He's right. That's the word right. Parity is a word. You said Perry. I said parody. You did a second time. The resort.

Oh my gosh. It's funny. I mean, I can't help, but you can't read. I see Joe. Lots of talk over the weekend on parody, and I want to know if more parody is better for the sport. Ice Joe asks. Why do you read this? Answer the question.

Not ask the question. Answer it. Answer it. You don't want to answer it. Brett, what do you think? More parody battering. I'm so hot right now. I don't like parity.

I think when cars run the same speed, it's called a parade. I want to see comers, I want to see goers. Parity's bad. And oh, by the way, the parody they were after, it ain't here. Joe Gibbs Racing Hendrick won in every race. And I thought Danny made a really good point on his show last week. That's funny. I'll imagine that.

You know, they made the cars the same, you know, exactly the same. And then they give each other, all the drivers, each other's data. So now you've made the drivers the same. Where, you know, yeah, you've got plenty of parity. but the problem is now you can't pass each other because everybody's the same. It's good for the sport, but when we're all the same,

that's no good. Like we have to have comers and go over. No, that's not. There's ways, everything the same, but they could have, if this car was similar to the Xfinity car still, you would have, I think it would be much better still.

The sport relies more on people than it ever has because the, The similarities amongst equipment is the best it's ever been or the most common it's ever been. And there's no practice. That makes it even more reliable on the people before you get to the racetrack. Because once you get to the racetrack, there's not a lot of opportunities to make your car better before you qualify or before you race. So, man, it just the parts don't break like they used to.

And I say that coming off a power steering problem yesterday. But, I mean, leading into yesterday's race, everybody was finishing every race. And then obviously yesterday we wrecked. But, man, I'm not a fan of all this parody talk. I think the thing that I always think about, you know, we talk about more practice, I think more practice brings more parity. In this world, it does. You know, they're just going to get them closer together,

and that's going to make it even harder to pass. Do you want to read the next one, too? No, you can try this one. Thanks. You just needed a minute. Deep breath. Get back, join us. Welcome back to the team.

Chip asks. I need a drink. I don't think that's a good idea. You can have one glass of wine. Chip asks, with Talladega being next with adding a playoff point for whoever leads the most laps, solve the problem of drivers not running full throttle. No. Yeah, probably not.

The reason why we're not running full throttle is to put ourselves in position to win the race. Which is going to be a lot better. Yeah, which is going to pay off a lot more than one playoff point. I mean, I don't. don't think. Would you run your race completely different for one playoff point? Y'all going to hate me when I tell you all this. I loved when we were in the air that leading a lap got you a point.

I love that leading the most laps got you points. So for me, I would love to see us instill a rule to where anybody who leads a lap under any condition on the racetrack, whether it be green or yellow, you get a point. a playoff point or a season point a point a season point because that season point is going to be a big deal in the playoff points especially for those top 15 16 drivers i'm sorry i know a lot of people are going to say oh you're crazy that's i think it incentivizes lead changes it incentivizes different pit strategies um if you're running last if you're if you're the last car on the lead lap yesterday and the caution comes out and everybody pits what would you do stay out yeah probably a point it gives you a me a different narrative on the broadcast. I like incentivizing leading laps. If we're sitting at Talladega this coming weekend and Justin Haley's running forth and he knows he can get a point if he gets the lead, he ain't going to just ride. But if he doesn't have that incentivized statute in the rules, he's going to just chill. I think the, you know, the problem is this race

is going to, I assume, be just like the other races where you're saving fuel and you burn more fuel. leading. So, you know, nobody wants to lead. And, you know, I guess if you incentivize it, maybe you see that change, but you honestly can't do it. We saw it with Jesse Love, even in the Xfinity race at Daytona. You know, he led the whole race, but didn't save enough fuel. And then that's what cost him to race at the end.

So you're all going to, we're all going to run the race the same way and save as much fuel as we can. And I think even if you incentivized it with a playoff point, I still don't see anybody really sacrificing their race for that point. If you incentivize it with a playoff point, people are going to go bananas. But I think the playoff point should be incentivized if you lead the most laps. That's what this is. Leading a lap.

That's what this question is. They're saying here leading the most laps of Talladega. This next one is from Zachary. How hot is Alex Bowman's seat now that all of his teammates have wins? Brett. It's early in the year. There's a lot of regular season races left. Obviously, he's going to now fill the pressure to win.

and I don't know how much he was filling that pressure, you know, with Chase struggling 42 plus or 42 race winless streak. You know, Alex was leading to points when he had his wreck and he got hurt and he went out. And I think Alex is in a great spot from a sponsorship perspective because I don't think they're putting a whole lot of pressure on necessarily, you know, winning. And they're obviously tied to Rick's businesses. But, man, he's going to start filling the pressure of I've got to win. And I hope he does win because I like Alex. I think he's good for a sport. And, oh, man, time starts ticking and you start getting in your own head.

But I think the same pressure is probably on Ty Gibbs. I mean, he needs to win too. And he's young in his career. But, I mean, his name's on the building. He's taking, or if he hasn't, he's going to eventually be taking a leadership role with a company. Like, you got to win in this sport. It's not what it was years ago. Do you think for Ty, he's also still working on,

experience. I mean, it's only been a few years since he's really started in the Cup series. Yeah. I feel like Ty's shown more speed. The cars in general, I've shown more speed. But, yeah, like we talked about it with Alex, you know, there was a gap between the 5 and the 24 to the 9 and the 48. Well, the 9s figured out how to close that gap in the last few weeks. Alex wasn't bad at Martinsville. He was, you know, 7th, 5th, the 7th, most of the race. Obviously, it's good, but when your teammates are up there dominating the race, it's, you know... I think Chase led 60 laps of Margeville.

Yeah. Yesterday he got, I mean, I don't know what the hell was going on there. I have to call John Hunter and see Alex checks up for the wreck and starts to spin. John Hunter starts spinning into him, too, though. He wasn't like... He looked like he was wrecking to speed when he hit him. He did look like that. I know how that is.

Yeah. So, but it's an unfortunate that takes him out yesterday. But, I mean, you can't, listen, all the... the other three cars are in the playoffs and Alex is only probably like, I don't even know, maybe 10 points to the good right now hanging on to that second or last spot in the playoffs. That last spot isn't any good. Suarez is out. Oh, that's that I'm counting Suarez in there. But there's going to be more winners. You know, you're putting yourself in day. If you're down there in the last three or four

spots, you're putting yourself in bad danger of some guys rattling off a couple plate wins or surprise wins here and there. And next thing you know, you're outside looking in. So I think he'd be the first to tell you that he's not overly, you know, overly happy with the way things are going. And he's a good race car driver. There's no, he wouldn't be where he was if he's not. So he's just got to kind of get it figured out. And I think he'll be fine.

But he's definitely, definitely feeling the pressure. Did he recently resign for a few years, too, though? He signed a contract at the beginning of last year, I think. I don't know how many years it was. But like Brett said, allies essentially the old GMC financial, you know, that's just a product of Hendrick partners there. So like you said, there's not a ton of pressure. from them to get rid of somebody and honestly you look around like if you fire Alex Bowman

who's going in there you know there's there's not some you know I mean there's some prospects out there but I don't know that they're ready to replace Alex Bowman yet what an idiot man moving on to what an idiot who would like to go first well I was going to give it that something happened on the broadcast on Saturday but I'm not God I heard a little bit about that I'm going to let that Listen, and there's a fan, I told Brett this story, there's a fan that I ran into at the dirt race on Saturday night that I could easily give it to, but I'm not going to bring that up. I'm going to give what happened a pass,

which I don't do very often, but I'm feeling nice today. I think there's an overwhelming, what an idiot this week, TJ, what you think? I know you spotted that race. The truck race? Yes. Which one are we giving it to? The one that came from the third or fourth lane off a turn two and just drove to the bottom of the racetrack

with a bunch of trucks going. Oh, that one. But I heard his wheel popped off, did it? If that's true, that's an even bigger one. You didn't have the wheel on it. But you also can't keep your truck up there if you don't have a steering wheel. I don't think you can,

I don't think he can turn the wheel the steering wheel that many times to get the wheels that far crank left in the middle of the corner like that. I don't think you can do it. Like, those wheels were. So you think Thad Moffat's steering wheel came? I don't know.

I just know the wheels are pointed way to the left further than I've ever seen any wheel pointed in the middle of a corner like all the way to the left so that was a what an idiot moment regardless my other one I had last was Ryan Sieg for not stuff in that kid in the fence yeah it wouldn't you're at first race

did you all see Brian Murphy sent me this tweet did you see where the two motorcycle guys read and then the motorcycle guy went and got on the wrong motorcycle oh and then the other guy sprinted like 40 yards and he's like hey dumb s you're on my bike go back and get on your bike that one was an epic moment And then the safety officials are like trying to get the bike.

Yeah, it was pretty, it was like a cartoon. That was a great honor you mentioned. But my, what an idiot. And maybe I'm just too damn old school, but I was really bothered by the fact that we didn't have a scoring pile on at Texas Motor Speedway. Like, yeah, you could look at Big Hoss, but you couldn't see one through 35. You didn't see the lap count easily until you. I mean, and listen, I'm 25 years trained to look for that scoring pylon going into one when I want to know what lap it is and what position. I'm in and who's around me and that was gone.

And we were from two pylons to none. And I love that pylon because it was one of the only ones of what you might even said that, but it counted both ways. Both ways. It's up and down, so you knew exactly how many to go. It's like Charlotte. Charlotte has the same type of one. The worst to me is both I did, didn't do the Xfinery race, but the truck,

Bailey said he used the pylon because he could look for laps. I thought, you know, and Brad said the same thing. He's like, hey, man, may she tell me more about where we're running how many laps ago because normally I would just look at the pylon and I can't see. I'll tell you, I couldn't see early in the truck race either because the lights weren't on and turned that one good. Boy, didn't he look like a genius for them comments? I, though, when I think about Indianapolis Motor Speedway, I can't tell you how many times

I've taken a picture of that scoring pylon if my guy was on the pole, if we won the race, if whatever. And so, I mean, to me, pylons are our. a big deal at the racetrack. And then for Texas, I use it as a tool. I know fans use it. Drivers use it.

It's just gone. There's a kid, actually it was Andy, Jay. Justin Bonsignor did a, he ran the race this year, the Archer race Daytona. They had like a flow, had a little film crew

following him around. And Andy Jay was, he ran there for the first time a couple years, did a test. And he said he was going down the front stretch. They got in the draft. They go down the front stretch.

And he said, I noticed we went to the top of the board. He said, and TJ's trying to talk to me about how, to run the draft because CJ spots for him. And he said, all I'm doing is kind of get my PR guy to take a picture of the pylon at Daytona with my number on top of it.

He's like, I'm like, make sure you get a picture in that. I know. He says something on read. I remember that. But I'll tell you, I'll get another honorable mention for one idiot. Whoever was in control of Big Haas during practice and played the Michael McDowell wreck to where I thought there was a fucking massive wreck happening while we were out there practicing.

You know, like it's so zoomed in. So you're like, you know, it's, you know, following. Then all of a sudden you see like a car pound the face. Like, holy shit, where's that at? And you're literally, you realize, oh, it's McDowell rolling down the racetrack. But it's like, I was like really in the moment.

I was like, oh, all right, never mind. That's not a wreck. Moving on to TVC picks. Congratulations. Brett, um, you won. Texas. Now, the last driver to win back-to-back races with Daga being the second of the two was Joey Lugano in 2015.

So it's been nine years. can Chase Elliott break the streak? Freddie, you DQed last week so sorry for picking the same driver twice. Who are you picking? What an idiot for me. Shout out Trey Ryan was feeding us some stats last night about that. The back-to-back wins in Lugano. I think he said Jeff Gordon was the last one before that 2007.

So maybe that's a trend like it's every eight, nine, ten years. And Chase, listen, Chase is going to be strong. Obviously the odds are against him. I am not picking Chase Elliott this week. I'll leave that to you guys. I'm going to go with Todd Gilliland. Solid pick. DJ.

Ricky Stenhouse, Jr. Solid pick. I'll go with Kislauski. I'm going with a guy coming off his first top ten of the year. Who's that? Noah. No, Noah finished out of Vegas. Austin Dillon.

Oh. Yeah. I think I got the biggest gun, but it's such a wild card race. It is. I almost feel bad for Austin Dillon, because we were right behind him coming to the white or coming to the checker, I guess. And Ross Rex and Austin lifted for the wreck, obviously. Like we weren't that close to him where we were going to run into him.

But like, he obviously lifts for the wreck. And I'm like, keep the up, wrecking tops. They keep getting in. And we passed them down and back straight away after the wreck. And he lost a spot. And he lost the spot. Blaney's wreck. We actually passed two cars on rate as that started happening.

And they threw the yellow so fast that he wasn't, he was still backwards. has that ain't hit anything yet and they threw the yellow and I'm like just wait three seconds here good lord Ford we got to talk about Ford's what I was going to say earlier you know the Ford winless streak they're going to a place where they could easily break it because they have been the cars to beat it feels like or like the the the teamwork to beat really is what I should say it's hard to win when the Chevy's drive through you so this listen this might be the this just what the doctor ordered for Ford to go here and and finally break that streak who's on the hole. Hendrick?

No, Hendrick has a big Carl's hard. It's probably... It's going to be fast, right? Stuart Haas, probably. I think front row. Front row. I think front row would be really good. Does Joey have his gloves still?

I don't know. Oh, secret gloves. Yeah. Did they come out with a better design? Yeah, the front row car's been fast. No practice at all right. I think, for sure. No practice.

No. Show up and race. Which, by the way, I've seen something the other day And somebody, TJ, you doing the Raker race this week? Oh, yeah, man. Did I see that they are not qualifying? They're just lining the field up by points. No, we're doing it.

We have a practice on Friday. Yeah, but it's like a pratiness qualifying thing, right? The thing that Bob tweeted was like, it might be by points. The top 20 is going to be by points. And then after that, it's that practice qualifying deal, which makes, I'm hoping that's not true because that makes zero fucking sense to me. So I don't, like, Arc does some wild qualifying.

I don't understand. And like, and I know this don't matter very much to probably because you like Spot Arcca, but, um, why don't we just qualify? Like why? And this, so they, do you know how, do you even know how they qualify? Normally? I don't know. You go to Daytona for the first race of the year for them and you literally, what do you,

draw for a group? Draw out of a hat for a group. And that's your group. You could get the four worst cars out there, a drawing your group. And that's your luck. I mean, to me, it's still, it should come down to the fastest guys. Like, whoever puts, not, not because this guy's been running it for 78 years. He's in over you.

You know what I mean? Like, I don't know. They, they need to go back to regular qualifying. Just one lap off pit road, run one lap. Yeah. And you could stick probably three or four of them out there at a time. You know what I mean? You could run.

You could have, yeah, three. What we used to do? We used to do something like six, seven seconds apart or something like that, send a car. Yeah. They got cars that are six seconds off. Well, I mean... Do it and you got to do it in time drive. Yeah, I mean, you can do it.

They don't have a minimum speed, do they? If they do, I don't know what it is. It's got to be like a minute 20. They've got to do something different. I mean, Cup qualifying and Exfeeing qualifying take no time now at that places. I mean, they're rolling as soon as the car goes by us, then the next one. Car goes by us on the next one. I like the Talladega infield in the spring.

Not that the fall's bad, but the spring's usually real wild. fall a lot of people in that area big college football fans so it's not as wild but you boys y'all stay off to infield this week I think I'm gonna go to the infield this week maybe I think old Dougger playing

Dugger's playing might go down there and see him for a little bit on Saturday night I think he needs to play on like Friday night he's played in Texas What's the Applebee's song guy's name Walker Hayes He's the show

I think Dougers opening for him I heard that Walker Hayes is born up hadn't he Yeah he's awesome I think that was three years ago Yeah I do think that was I know, I took my girls to Applebee's when that song come out. Because where I grew up, Monroe, North Carolina, that's all we had to eat was Applebee's. Like, if you were going on a date, you went Applebee's.

I took my kids to Applebee's. There's three restaurants in the whole state or the city of Pageland. You drive by every one of them. Two of them are local. There's definitely not Applebee's subway and probably, you know. Bochangles, a Hardee's and a McDonald's, I think. There's a subway there, too. But we didn't have that growing up.

We had a grits and groceries. That was the name of it. Gritzy groceries. All right. Oh, Talladega, yeah. Watermill and Capitol. Throw the world. Grits and Groceries. Can't believe Byron wrecked the watermelon, man.

What an ass. I tell you, man, Ross's fandoms? Man, I saw a guy literally wearing a watermelon hat yesterday. He's blowing up. He's the working, man. All right. Well, we're, I guess Casey, you ready to cut out of here? You got somewhere to be? No, I'm all good. I'm all good.

I'm trying to figure out what they want for lunch. Yep. We got to take Casey to Big Alts. Her husband won't take her. We got to do the DBC picks dinner still. Yeah. I thought that was Reddick. I thought we were waiting on Reddick.

Come on, Tyler. Make it happen. Get on your... I've been waiting for... You told me we're waiting on Redick. I didn't say that. Waiting on a scooter gang. You've said it multiple times.

Well, Reddick, tell us when you're free. Epic's open, so we can go there again. I hope y'all have a good week. Talladega, it'll be wild one way or another. See you guys there. Sure to subscribe to us on YouTube, not only Jersey Mo Media, but also the DoorWip or Clear channel. Tons of cool content.

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