Door Bumper Clear - 328 | Dover: Practice, Aero Blocking, Mirror Driving, and … Pineapples?

Episode Date: April 29, 2024

Clear weather prevailed in Dover this weekend, keeping the “Monster Mile” parched and fans happy (except for William Byron fans). Freddie Kraft, Brett Griffin, T.J. Majors & Casey Boat are back in the studio breaking down all the action from the race weekend, where Denny Hamlin held off a late-race push by Kyle Larson to secure the win. The spotters offer their insights on the potential impact of racing dynamics if the rear-view camera gets removed. They also discuss which NASCAR Cup Series drivers must “press the panic button” and who is on the playoff hot seat.Episode Highlights: Breaking down Bubba’s wreck: Is anyone to blame? Carson Kvapil’s stellar performance Are the Fords the only teams that need to be concerned? Larson’s shocking “Bus Stop” data from Watkins Glen Want more DBC? Check out and subscribe to the new DBC YouTube channel! Want more DBC? Check out and subscribe to the new DBC YouTube channel! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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So. I'm T.J. Major. Spiter of the 73-Arca car this weekend, the second place finishing again, 88-exfinding car, and the 6th Cup car. That's awesome. Brett Griffin's spotter, Richard Childers Racing. I'm back at the racetrack this week. And Freddie, I think I've found somebody that loves parity in racing.

Danny Hamlin has won four of the 12 Cup races so far this year. He's great. I don't know what to tell you. Who you spotting for? Is it Austin again? I can't tell you. I don't know. You don't know.

You don't know. I mean, I know, but I don't know if they've told you all yet. How do you not know if they don't know? So it's God Austin. I can't tell you that. You can only tell us everything else. You cannot confirm nor deny. We can pretty much name.

I mean, we can tell you who we, the only possible suspects are. There's a couple. Yeah, there's a couple suspects. It's a fluid situation. Yeah, one's Australian. One's, I mean, right. I don't speak Australian. Yeah, you do.

Yeah, you're probably right. No, I don't think they wouldn't. They would need an interpreter. Pagelin and Australia would need an answer. No, Pagelin and Australia are very similar. What's up, Freddie Crafts, spotted for bubblewales, Kyle Sieg this week. Hi, Casey. Hello, Casey Boat here.

Well, the sun was finally shining. The sands were... I didn't even know they had a sun in Delaware. Dover finally had a good weather weekend. And, of course, all is right. Denny gets another win. and maybe this is this year for a championship. They had a good weather day.

Saturday was miserable. Friday. Friday. Let's be honest. We ended that dark race and I was shivering. It was bad. It was one of them. Then Saturday was getting to that point.

Yeah. It was wild. But thank God Sunday rolled in there. Sun was out. Got to see a bunch of our friends at the old get together on the front stretch there. Shout out to Zane and Briscoe and Josh for swinging by. That was fun. But yeah.

The race was the race. As expected. What? So Brad, I'm assuming, just got loose. Yeah, we were just really free. And we were trying to pass Noah for 12th. And just spun out. Sound like that was hard to do.

Kyle didn't seem very happy with Noah after the race as well. Yeah, I don't know. We were only, it was pretty early in the race. I don't know what. That was fairly early. It was the end of the first stage, right? Yeah, something like that. I mean, it's worked out for him, considering his finishes lately.

Yeah. I don't know. Just trying too hard a little bit. And these cars, you don't. There's no, if you're loose, there's no, you can't drive them sideways. Like you used to be able to, you know, them guys. And I ran into Jimmy Saturday night, and he said the same thing. I mean, we used to watch Jimmy come off turn four at Dover, and he's broadside.

Like, you could read his door numbers from the flag stand, and it's not like that anymore. And just got a little too free. And then we damaged the car a little bit. And from that point on, we were just, we cut a tire a little bit later, and we were just on damage control. You mentioned Jimmy, and there's something that came up this weekend with Jimmy, where he got out there and was again advocating for more practice. And it was like, he said like if we just get 45 minutes of practice, that would be good. And I don't know.

I have to ask Jimmy this, but it's like, are you just looking for more laps? Because you can't, there's not, you can't make major adjustments to the car. You know, if you have a 45 minute practice and you come in and want to change, you know, all the springs and shocks, it's going to take more than that time to get it done. So I get the guys with wanting more time. but are you just looking for more laps? Let me ask you this. I haven't talked to Jimmy in a while.

But if you practice on Friday for 45 minutes and then Saturday for 45 minutes. That's a different story. But what he's saying is I just want one 45-minute session. My problem with that is how many sets of tires are you going to have? Yeah, that's the thing. But like the same thing, like you can't make a job. I mean, you can make minimal adjustments in that amount of time.

What about the same schedule we have now, practice, qualifying on Friday, short practice, and then Saturday have a happy hour. Happy hour. Yeah, I mean. If you're a happy thing around here. I feel like if you're going to add practice, there has to be a big gap in between the practices

because you need time to pull the underbody off of this thing. And as meticulous as the teams are with how they set the cars up, like that is something that's not going to be an easy process for them to do at the racetrack. So I mean, I know what these teams want in more practice. and I don't know if it's just more laps, but the people that are asking for more practice have to be, they've got to be more clear about what they want because it's got to be a Friday, Saturday deal, basically.

If you're going to overhaul the car, it's not something you can do in an hour. I think for Jimmy, it's laps. Yeah. Because Jimmy obviously doesn't run these things every week, and when he does, he seems to be playing catch-up a lot. And yesterday, he had a fairly decent race. I mean, he was competitive, you know, for...

How did he lose two laps? probably the long runs and I'm not sure he's race these cars enough to and he's still figuring out the car I missed first quarter of the race because I thought it started like 3.30 Yeah he's he

Well that's when I usually start For somebody who is on Twitter 20 million times a day He texted me about something tweeting his life I was like yeah the race The race started 30 minutes ago Just to you know

But to that point Obviously Jimmy doesn't have a ton of time In this car I mean is that the consensus To cross multiple drivers I think that the calibration here is the guy's 11-time winner at Dover, and you expect him to be able to put the glove on and it fit, and it's not fitting. And I think Jimmy's lobbying for more laps for that to be the case.

What I was going to say, the other second thing is for Jimmy's laps to me, a guy, a guy, you know, whoever, who else is one more? Did Brassy want a more practice? Yes, yes. So for us, to me, it would be, okay, we're looking to dial our stuff in closer. we don't have quite the resources that the bigger teams have still. And, you know, I don't think Denny's going to make his car 10% better. Denny's, they're probably not going to make many changes at all.

They're going to, they're going to gain a little bit. We have an opportunity to gain bigger chunks with the practice because we're probably, you know what I mean? At this point, they need to get Ford an extra practice. The public made the comment yesterday and I kind of agreed with him. Like, that practice on Saturday was one of the most useless practices we ever had. because it's completely different track conditions, you know, where nobody really knew what to do about a tire. Now you see some guys, we're kind of a lot like Bristol, courting tires and practice that we knew probably wasn't going to happen on Sunday because the temperatures.

It laid a lot of rubber. Yeah, it's going to lay way more rubber and the temperature should be way higher. So, you know, you ask for more practice. If we had three hours of practice on Saturday, it would have been completely useless. So, you know, I don't know. I think we're in a pretty good spot with practice, but obviously, you know, for the fan side of it, I know they want to see us on track more. and I could support that 100%.

Talking about driving styles, though. I saw some videos this weekend of cars going around a racetrack from the hotel and press box and all that. Man, I remember when you would stop to make the corner, you would try to roll the center and all your speed was found center out. Those guys in the center of the corner are absolutely flying. It looks like they're not even using any break. You should hear them in Qualified when they're going around there.

Qualifying that, it is barely out of the throttle. and that's that is uh that's a that's a that's one of the issues to me there is it making passing hard they're just in the throttle so much and you don't really notice it in practice because there's so many cars out there but when they qualify and you got a chance to hear these guys man they are flying flying you can see in the videos oh yeah yeah dover's a fast place had the had the race look on television it was good i mean look dover's one of my favorite racetracks unless i'm slow because that is not a fun place to spot when you're not fast. But, I mean, listen, the cool part about it is like we talked about last week.

Would the groove widen out? It did. I mean, the track took rubber, and, I mean, all the things I like about Dover happen. You had a crazy wreck on a restart, which are always a big deal. I mean, you go back and watch the Dover races. It wasn't uncommon for us to see eight cars finished on the lead lap when this was a 400-mile race with no stage brakes. So this is a place I do think stage breaks are a good thing. And Dover is literally one of my favorite tracks.

I know Dale Jr. hates concrete. I don't. It's just a Bristol on steroids when you look at it, and it honestly looked like a great turnout for fans. The fans were, I mean, that place was packed. I'm sure the weather had a lot to do with that. They haven't had a really good, you know. And I was actually, we were at an event on Saturday night,

and I was talking to Marcus. And Marcus was, he said, man, these fans up here are one of the most diehard fan bases because you see, he says, we see over time, You know, if you get a rain out at a race or a rain delay or whatever it is, he says, that hurts your attendance for the next couple of years. And then obviously when they get, you know, good weather, it trends back in the right direction. He says, these fans come out. He's like, we've had a clean, you know, a day, a Sunday here with nice weather in probably four or five years.

He goes, and the fans just keep coming. And now that the weather's going to be nicer, he's like, obviously there's even going to be, there's going to be more of them. But, you know, he was just saying it's a testament to how deep that fan base is up there, that even those rainouts and the weather never really affected the, out, you know, the turnout. So I was awesome to see there was, you know, I've seen some people complaining about maybe some traffic issues, but I mean, that's what you're going to get to get. Yeah. Like when you see, I like it, like, when we get caught a little bit of traffic on the way in,

I'm like, good. That means we're going to have a good crowd. When you go to a football game, what do you get in on the way there? Yeah. Traffic. I mean, so it's just to be expected, you know, playing out of fix that? Leave early. Camp. Yeah. Stay at the track. Stay at the track. Yeah. For sure. But yeah, I mean, the race to me, look fine. there was some, I think what really, the first half I thought was really good because because the track conditions were so different on Saturday, I think you've seen some guys qualify up front that maybe weren't going to be as good on Sunday and some guys not far up, you know, not as far up. Like Truex, I thought was the best car at the beginning of the race.

Maybe he was probably the best car right up until he got into the back of the house. The beginning of race, the five was. The five, the 19, they're flying. Honestly, I thought we were third to them. We were following the five up through. You were holding ass at the end of that first run. Yeah, we were moving. And then, you know, so you've seen them guys. kind of cycle to the front. Then once then the five to 19, those guys got to the front that was a lot less moving.

But I thought at the beginning of the race is great. And then you just kind of, you know, you race it out from there. But I, you know, it was, it was hard to pass. You've seen guys complaining about arrow blocking. But that's just a, that's what you're going to have. If it was hard to pass, how did Larson get up to the front from starting 21st? Well, so, I mean, we started, where we start, 24th or something?

We were a couple rows behind him and we followed them through. I mean, it's just the first run's always different. Everyone's cars are a little bit. you know, not everyone's cars or you made them adjustments for the race and everyone's a little bit different. After everyone gets an adjustment, they get faster and it gets harder. That's what fans need to realize is every time we stop the race and allow these guys to work on. Who hit pit road? Cars are going to get better.

The drivers have given their feedback. The crew chiefs and engineers are studying SIM. The spotters have given their version of what's happening, Casey. So when you see us come down pit road, so if you're leading the race, right, and you see the guy behind you's kind of chipping away at you, and that caution comes out, even though you're leading the race, you know your car has to be better. You can't just say, oh, we're leading, we're good, no changes. Like, you have to realize we're going, everybody behind you when that caution comes out, they're going to make their car better.

Yeah, everybody does. I mean, that's every week. That doesn't change for, I mean, that's every race ever. So deeper we go into the race, the harder it's going to be to pass. Bubba, or Freddie, for you guys, I mean, you were pretty much just outside the top ten. You look a pretty Bubba. You look like a Bubba? Yeah.

Yeah, I see there is semblance. Bubba craft. Bubba was just outside the top 10 for quite a while and then obviously, you know, had that wreck at the end. What ultimately ended up happening there? Yeah, so we were just, we started 15th, 16th. We ran 12th, 11th, the whole race. We passed you earlier, didn't we?

Yeah, earlier. Yeah, early, like, first stage probably. Yeah. We almost hit you when you spun out is what happened to us. Yeah, that's what I was saying. Get Freddy, get him. get him. So, yeah.

That's right. But we were probably right there, 10th, 11th. I think we were going to run there. You know, if we, it's kind of one of them deals where I felt like if we cycle the track position and we're fourth or fifth, we could have probably run fourth or fifth. I figure we were seventh to ninth somewhere in there,

fifth and nine something like that. It was one of them deals where, you know, it was track position based. But we were going to have a good day. We were going to have a top 10 day, I think. And then the restart, the problem was on the restart, we had just pit. we had to take the wave around.

We got trapped by the leader. There's, you know, four or five of us that were top ten guys that had to start right. And what happens is the top eight were on the lead lap. So they all cycle to the front. Then you have a group of, I don't know, six or eight guys that pit, but their laps down. Well, now those six or eight guys are going to be between the eighth place car and the ninth place car. So, you know, you're going to be in a rush to try to get through there. And, you know, you see the replays I was talking about with Brent last night.

And I still, I don't know who to blame. If there's blame, you know, it's just, we go into one. Tyler, Tyler makes an aggressive move to get inside the 71. He gets a little free underneath him kind of moves up. That packs air on the 71, 71. You can hear the in the end car of the 71, you can hear he gets himself into a bad spot where he lifts. I mean, he's not trying to wreck us paying any means. And I don't want, Zane got a lot of hate last night for that that I don't think he deserved.

You know, he's not trying to wreck us. He's out of the throttle when he hits us. You know, he could tell he's in a bad spot. He's completely trying to bail out of there. And he just kind of chases it up into us and unfortunately turns us. And then here comes the whole field. Somebody, Bob, Brandon, Lyons apologize for hitting us. I'm like, Brandon, we're sliding across the race track in front of the whole field.

Like, I don't, there's nowhere to go back there. But I didn't, I don't know, you guys watch replay. You got a less biased opinion. I didn't see anywhere to really, it sucks for us. We got caught by somebody else's mistakes, but I didn't see anywhere where it was really blamed to assist. If I'm Zane Smith, I'm probably pissed. off because Tyler Reddick is very aggressive, makes it three wide. And Zane has to realize right

there a couple things. Where's he having points? It's not going to matter. Points aren't mattering. I know, but where's he adding points? Not good. Not good. Does he have any? Does he need to be involved in a wreck? Does he need to be in a bad position? No, he needs laps in this car and he needs to be competitive. Well, he's now in a competitive situation where he's put in a bad spot by Tyler Redick. in there, Tyler does wash up, and it washes them all up, but they all recover. Then when Tyler tries to get off of him, Tyler gets loose again, and Zane is kind of coming down to get on his door, it looked like to me, almost to side draft him, that was where Zane made a mistake. Zane should have said, man, I'm in a bad spot. I got to ride this thing out. Somehow another, I got to see the

other end of this corner, and I think the competitive nature in his brain couldn't let him do that, and he went back down trying to race him, and that's when they all wrecked each other. I don't think it was anybody's quote fault and people on my Twitter were saying don't call this a racing deal I hate those words I think Zane got in a bad spot and he didn't try to dig himself out of it he tried to remain a race car driver in that particular situation and he needed to just forfeit what he was going to lose I don't know if I I kind of disagree with that because Zane's racing too and I don't know I don't know what position he's in I don't know if he's got two or three cars run him on the same lap as him if he's racing if they're race for the free pass I don't know I don't

think they were racing for that. You don't know what their scenario is. But one thing you said, though, is Tyler drives in there, makes it three wide, makes one mistake already and washes everybody up and then has another little wiggle again. To me, if anybody's to blame, which I do think it was a racing deal. But if anybody's to blame, to me, you've got to put more of it on. It's not Zane's job to live for some other guy's mistake. I know what you're saying if he wants to big picture and race out, but Zane's racing too. And if Zane, keeps letting guys put them in bad spots and lifting, they're going to keep doing it to them again and again and again.

And, you know, to me, one thing that Zane probably should have done more is be a little more defensive on, don't even let the situation happen. Stop it from happening before it does. Protect the bottom. Protect the bottom. And then it doesn't even happen. But, you know, once they get there, obviously it sounds like Tyler had a couple little wiggles, mistakes, which kind of created the scenario for the wreck.

But to me, those guys are all racing from position. They're racing hard. Guys are going to get loose. Guys are going to lose the nose. They're going to have things happen. And we just talked about how fast these guys are, you know, they're hauling ass through the center of the corner. So if Zane, you know, if Zane does try to back out of that situation, it's not like

we're the tail of the field, you know, he's just going to get run over from behind somebody else. So, I mean, again, it's just a, you know, it's a product of the racetrack. I can say who's fault it is it's whoever tweeted two weeks ago that we had the longest streak without a DNF because now we've got back to back one. So I appreciate that person. and I wish I'd go back and find it. Come to your house.

It's John. It's probably my brother. Innocent victim of circumstance. But also, this is a product of that racetrack. When you come off the corner at Dover, this isn't like a big wide, you know, track. This is a very narrow track. And it's hard at two wide. And three wide, good luck.

Yeah, it's basically impossible. It is. I mean, like you said, it has to be. Coming off 200 under that bridge, three wide. Dude. Three wide. Two wide, you're like, oh, were they going to make it? I mean, three wide.

I mean, Offa two at Darlington, off of two at Dover, two of the most exciting corners and all the NASCAR. Especially they fixed, they fixed Darlington though. Yeah,

they did. Like you don't, it used to be used to tense up when you were raced up over there now. I used to tense up watching them. Yeah, now you're just like, oh, they're good. Yeah.

On a similar topic of racing deals, Alex Bowman had some words for Kyle Larson on his pit road incident. What in the world happened there with Kevin Hamlin? I think it's on the track. I think he was on the track. I think he was just racing.

I think they raised the show. They showed Kevin talking on TV after the pit road incident. What the conversation between Bowman and Kevin or whatever was happening on their radios between the crew chief spotter driver channel one channel two was a Larson related to all on track, not pit road. Yeah. And I think that, you know, to everybody's point, you have to do it. You know, arrow blocking is a gigantic part of the sport now because there was guys at times

yesterday that would run us down and we would, you know, take their lane away at the Ty Gibbs is a perfect example. We took his lane away from it and made a move and then he moved and we found it a little bit of speed and we drove back away from him. You were easy to pass. Yeah. He didn't ever left the bottom. Yeah. I mean,

and that's, we're easy to pass because Bubba at that point, it's early in the race. There's no reason to really do that. You know what I mean? There's no reason to arrow blocks for 12th or 13th. You know what I mean? Well,

the guy's faster. Yeah. And he caught you from behind. You know what I mean? It's one thing if we restart together and we try to, you know, we're holding off. But you run to. Tell Torres is that? No, he hasn't.

He hasn't figured that out yet. No. He's got six mirrors in his car. But, you know, so I'm sure Kyle arrow blocked and raced hard or whatever it was. He's leading the race. Yeah, and Bowman got frustrated about it, which Bowman, neither one of them were in the wrong. You know, Kyle's doing what he has got to do. Bowman should be frustrated because he can't pass him and he knows he's better.

But the funny, the thing is like with Kevin, no, I don't know how many people realize this, but like Kevin works for Alex, you know, during the week, outside of Hendrick Motorsports. So this is just, I think this is just buddies, you know, you know, having a moment. I mean, but Bubba told me to shut the fuck up a couple weeks ago at Bristol.

And I was like, yeah, Roger, that shut the fuck up. I mean, it happens a lot. But, you know, this is just heat of the moment.

Like, and the, you know, the clear by five, good luck is like the same thing. You know, all right, have fun,

you know. It's not going to, it's like it's going to, it's just makes for good TV. Yeah, just makes for good content. Alex is frustrated. Kevin's trying to,

Kevin's trying to motivate him a little bit and Alex just didn't want to hear a little bit. Kevin is a passive aggressive ass. really cool arms sleeve tattoo that's what kevin i love you you know that but yeah stop being a d'b on the radio he just motivates him that coming from me yeah everyone everyone has their different different style of don't be a bit on the radio just be a d't all the time so i got we told this story years and years ago but i'm going to tell it again because it's been so long ago we were at wakins glen and kevin hamlin um i looked down there during practice and kevin hamlin is he's spotting for somebody

And I'm like, man, I thought that guy drove. I thought I saw his name on the, like, the lineup sheet or whatever, entry list. So next thing you know, I'm watching qualifying and out goes Kevin Hamlin. I'm like, damn, he was up here spotting a minute ago, and now he's qualifying a car. So here we are. We get in the race and sure is hell, Kevin Hamlin starts the race. Well, he D&S. He doesn't make it.

Well, it ain't fucking 10 minutes later. I look down there and this guy's standing there spotting. well next thing you know his car gets in a wreck and i walked down there and i said congratulations kevin and i don't know kevin that well at this point in life and he's like what i said you're getting ready to become the first human being to ever dnf as a driver and spotter in the same race and he looked at me and buses out laughing that's impressive that's impressive that's a good staff yeah yeah so that was one of the first times i really told we've been buddies ever since yeah buddies i'm sure Anyways, I know, obviously, some drivers had some challenges between front row motorsports.

Ryan Priest and his foam fire, Christopher Bell, and his third DNF. The foam fire thing to me is baffling. I haven't gotten a chance to talk to Ryan yet, and I don't even know if, I know he didn't seem like he wanted to tell anybody what's happening. I don't think he'll tell me either because he knows I have a podcast. I feel like that's the consensus. But, I mean, it looked like it was immediate. Like, it looked like it was, like, I think I looked down at like lap 10 or 15, and I was like, I couldn't tell right. Like, but look, it was on a big screen there.

And I was like, who's cars on fire? Is it the 41? Because you can see a Ford logo. And he's like, yeah, that's the 41. When he drove by, I looked, and you can tell the cockpit is just full of smoke. I was like, oh, okay, I don't know what the hell's going on there. And then he went back out. And I thought they had it cleaned up.

They had a pit. They went back out. And then that's when he came back. And then he pit and went to the garage. But that was a weird deal. Yeah. I don't know. You can't drive because you say your hands are on fire?

I can't. That's unfathomable for me. Just saying the steering wheel was hot, right? Like he said it, like... Yeah, the steering wheel was so hot as hands were on fire. I mean, they were burning so bad. That's why he had to stop driving. Yeah, that wouldn't be enjoyable.

Nothing. And I don't even know how that happens, first of all. That's about that. I don't either. I don't know how it happens. I've had things when I drove a goody's ash car. They put the exhaust pipes underneath. It was up against the,

bottom of the chassis somehow and it made every like the gear shift the ball was glowing um so when you had to shift gears you had to grab onto it and just like throw it it was hot hot ball hot shit it was hot yeah wow it was hot to just had to add that you're an idiot i'm never to hurt of nothing like that it was bad yeah it was really bad oh anyways i was what i was getting at was which drivers do you see being on the hot seat right now we're over one-fourth of the way from the season end. What do you mean by hot seat? I'm about to get fired or ain't going to make the playoffs?

Everybody is not top 16 in points. 17th. I'm not being a smart ass. I mean, I'm being just honest. It's going to get harder and harder and harder to move in the points. And it's going to become more of a stressful situation for everybody 17th on back to go for a win. And then as that happened, 16th, 15th, 14th, 13th, and points, now they're screwed.

Yeah, right now, right now we're 15th and out. That's not good. And you take up, you think it's hard to move into points. It's not hard. If you just don't finish twice, you go from 9th to 15th and real fast. Two weeks. Yeah. You should start off going into the third race and 36.

That's a lot of fun, too. Yeah, that's a lot of fun. Yeah, I don't, I mean, there's a lot of guys that are probably, there was a lot of guys that started the season must win because they just weren't going to point their way in. And there's just, you know, I mean, you look now there's a pretty big gap already. I think TJ and I are. two or four points separated.

Like we're 15 to 16th, two, and then there's like a 50 point gap behind us. That's hard to make up. If we, if we have two top tens coming up, we'll probably be top 12 or say. Yeah. Because there's a,

that group. Yeah, from like 11th to us is close. 10 points, maybe four points on my dad. So yeah. Yeah. I mean,

there's, there's, I mean, I think if you're probably behind 17th, 18th right now, you're probably already looking at must win or or getting close to it. Yeah.

And it's such a different. a different, I mean, after Atlanta, y'all were sitting here saying, oh, look at the front row guy. I mean, it's completely swapped. Oh, yeah. You know, but that's just the, it's so hard starting the season off with two plate races because you don't really have a true reading of what's going to happen. All right, well, before we had the spot on spot off, some interesting NASCAR news coming out of last week, I know we mentioned it, the change from the track at Watkins Glen and how

people were very much against it. And then Larson shows his mouthpiece from the last race and really the impact that it's having his body. What do you guys take from that? To me, the biggest thing to take away is sometimes you have to protect these guys from themselves. I think that's why you saw a rule about you can't ride the wall anymore because if guys see that Ross Chastain ran eight seconds faster than everybody else on a racetrack by riding

the wall, we were going to all do it coming to the checker. and it's just not a safe thing to do. That would be awesome. Holy cow. You know, so, you know, this was a move. You see, like, what was happening is that getting into the bus stop, they were going so far right and just driving straight over the curb that they were basically launching in the air and then landing on entry to the bus stop and then completing the bus stop.

And that's where you see this big spike. And I think it was crazy. It was like 17, 18 Gs that, and I'm assuming that's when he's landing, you know. And that's math. You know what I mean? Like, I don't know if anybody's ever, you know, been in some kind of simulator where they can test it. But I mean, I don't want to test that.

I'm good. You know what I mean? I don't need to blackout or puke on myself. That's like letting Lawrence Taylor just run into you. You're standing there still and he just runs over it. You might get 18 Gs when when, Bernard Pollard hits you when you catch it in the middle. So, you know, they put the problem that we had with,

I think we came up, brought up on the show last week. We saw clear, you had a picture of it. I think, TJ, where they had paved that, but they didn't have that big. turtle or whatever you want to call it there. And I'm like, well, that sucks because now they were reacting to the drivers having to jump it. And, and, you know, now they're just taking it out, we thought. Because we saw the pictures.

And I'm like, well, now they're doing that to protect the drivers, but it kind of sucks because you're making that corner a lot easier. Well, now they've made it a lot harder because that turtle is going to have some big effects on that range. I wish there was an easier option. The only thing we want, the three of us want, we all want the same thing. I know we did. We want you to have to slow down to make the corner. I want it to be challenging. And it's what we saw last week that you had on your phone was not challenging.

Now, Freddie says it is going to be challenging. At the end of the day, that's all we want. Yeah, I don't need to see them landing like that, but just something that was some repercussions to the car, at least, or something like you, look, if you get over here, it might be a little faster, but you're playing in a gray area that's going to bite you at some point. And I felt like, you know, not that it wasn't, not that it was easy, but, you know, years past, it was very rare to be able to see anybody go through there.

side by side, you know, especially entry to that first left. And it almost made it easier to do that because you were so far right. That guy had a little bit of more lane to work with on the left. Oh, yeah. And you could go through it now. That's not going to be the case. And that's where you're going to see, I think that's what's going to make that bus stop as exciting as it used to be. Now, these guys cannot go to the right. So what are they going to have there? What they put in there? Yeah, yeah. It's, it's gigantic. It's going to destroy your car if you run it over. So I'm fine with that. But now it's going, you know, these guys are going to be trying to force each other over there. force each other back to stay off of it.

That's how it's going to be. That's what I'm saying. That's what's going to make that bus stop entry exciting again. Or we oil it down. I mean, listen, it looks like a spike. You know what I mean? It's like a turtle, but it comes up to a point. It's like the Star Wars spaceship.

Here's what I don't want. I don't want track limits that we're trying to enforce. No. I want if you miss the corner, it's a stop and go. And if not, it is what it is. Are these things going to be worse or better than what we had at Indy? I think about the same. If you hit this, from what I saw, if you hit this thing, you're probably done.

Or at least, it's going to at least, you know, spin, you know, you're not going to be able to just jump over it like they were in the past. Why don't we use those things like when you turn your rental car in? Spikes. Yeah, just use spike strips back there. Flat tires. Yeah. Coming to you. We have cars down.

We have cars stuck all over the place. And that is why you are not the race director. Spot on, spot off. Spot off. Spot on. Spot on. It was super fun yesterday to ride around there. I am spot off.

Damn. Where did he come from? First topic. In his post-race interview, Kyle Larson said NASCAR should get rid of the rear-view cameras to make it harder to airblock, describing it as easy. And on Saturday, Kyle Busch commented how the next-gen car

can be better used as a defensive tool than as an offensive tool. Lots of buzz on that next-gen car. Spot-on, spot-off Freddy. I kind of spot off for Kyle's comment just because, or Kyle Larson's comment, because, listen, arrow blocking didn't just get invented this week. I'm pretty sure we were arrow blocking long before they had these cameras in the car. Now, maybe it is easier now because they have such a better view of it, but these guys adapt. And if you took the cameras out, maybe I should be spot on for his comments.

I think you're fucking yourself right here with your answer. Because if they take the cameras out of the car, then they rely on us more. maybe that's going to drive my salary up, Denny. I can't believe you took that stance. I'm like, what are you talking about? I think Denny might have actually said he was against it because he doesn't even use it. Well, yeah, I did see his post-raised comments where he said, like, he didn't really look in his mirror. He was, I'm assuming, relying on Lambert or just, you know, worried about his own race.

But, yeah, listen, I don't know. It's the product of this car and what's what we got to deal with right now. Right. I think if you take the video camera out, it helps Kyle Larson as much as anybody in the field because of his background. is his uh i mean he races without a spotter at a lot of places and and i honestly to freddie's point like i would be fine with him taking i i was never a fan of the video camera mirror anyway like i don't even know why it became a thing it's not in my passenger car and i mean we're called the stock car auto racing for a reason it's actually pretty standard in passenger cars now

not going down the highway mind them i don't have one most of the mirrors flip to a camera like that the thing in the mirror flips a like a camera. But I was not a fan of this from the beginning, so I'm not a fan of it now. So I am spot on. I am with Kyle Larson on this. Take it out. But they're not going to take it out. No.

And I don't think they should take it out. It is what it is. Like, if you do take it out, it's not going to change anything. I don't think. Do you think it, I mean... I think it changes a little bit. The thing's so detailed and so it shows so much. Like before the driver would,

tell you before races, hey, man. Help me protect my right rear. Yeah, I can't see over there a good. Make you just tell me, like, I've had, we've had drivers tell us that stuff. That's kind of my point, though. Do you think if, do you think if Danny Hamelin didn't have a camera yesterday, it would be any different of a result? I think, I still, I don't think the result changes, but I think there's more opportunity throughout the race to make moves because I think that, I think the camera shows a lot more than

just maybe one car behind you. I think you can tell if another guy splits or something like that. And, you know, maybe if, you know, he can't see, you know, I don't know, these guys look at it a lot. I think Bozzi actually tweeted from 2012 there were comments about mirror driving and how it's always been an issue. It's not really changing. We're still going to tell the guys. Like Kyle said, it's probably easier now. But it's never, it's not, if you take it out, it's not going to go away.

You know, it's just. I mean, I think you, I'm not a big fan of it. I think you should go back to some other type of mirror that you can use, but it's challenging because I do think it does make it easier. And we don't need to make it easier. I don't think we need to make it easier. I completely changed our mind. I am spot on, take them out because that means we'll probably get paid more.

Well, I mean, we're going to still spot like we were before. It just got easier for the drivers to make a decision in the car, which honestly, that's what you want. You want the possibility of making a mistake more for passing. And you see the frustration of Kyle Bush after the race. And, you know, it's so understandable. And it's so hard to, you know, put the words. And Kyle Larson was probably just as frustrated because, you know, you catch a guy

and Denny's doing exactly what he's supposed to do in that situation. You know, if Kyle's that much better, he's got to do whatever he can to hold him off. Kyle just want what all Kyle is asking for in that situation is the opportunity to be able to get to Danny. and what Kyle Bush is saying is even if you get to Denny Denny can defend you know the saying the car is better at defense than offense just means that

if Kyle Larsson was somehow to get to Denny Danny Camel is in control of what happens there and what it should be is probably Kyle Larson should be in control like we see a little bit with the Xfinity cars where he can get up on him not saying he necessarily has to run into him and move him he can affect the aerial balance of his car by you know running up his ass or packing air on his left

rear quarter and right now it seems like the most of the drive drivers minds. The wrong guy is in control of those situations. They wanted to be the guy that's faster and running them down, not so much the guy that just got caught. Now he's the one that's in control of the situation. Yeah, you should have some sort of offensive

weapon at that point. Like at the Xenna race, we passed near the end of the race. You had the 18-21 racing side-by-side will, I mean, Carson drives right up to them, and he works at 21 off the bottom, and the 21 moves the other one up, but we're three-wide off of turn four for the lead.

It's because of the air. and he's got a weapon when he gets there. He doesn't have to, you know, he doesn't have to, I mean, it's, you get to the middle of the corner and you're close enough, you can, you can make a move still. So that would be, I mean, that would be something, like he just need, they need something to, just to play offense with a little bit. Moving on, Carson Cvopple choosing the top on a green white checker finish,

ultimately finishing second behind Ryan Truex in the Xfinity race. DJ, this one's for you. I am, I mean, I'm spot on. We would probably pick the, we would take the outside again if we did it. We started on the bottom already two resarts before that. And I think, you know, we just weren't as good into one on a restart as some of these other guys. We took the bottom when we were racing for fourth off a turn two because they just pin you down. And let's be honest, the 21 knows exactly what he's doing in that situation.

Sheldon's not going to give an inch out there. If you go into the corner and Sheldon's on your outside, you're going to have. have one car length and six inches. And Carson with only, it only being a second race, is still a little timid in them situations. And honestly, with the 21 restarting on the inside of us and losing it, he was probably a little more timid that that could be him, driving in there and hitting a guy in a door and spinning out. The only, we had a good restart. Ryan just did a really good job of driving it deep into the corner and getting even with us to have position. And if we get into that corner,

or just a little bit harder with um and we can keep our left front front of his right front we've got control of it at that point but Ryan did a really good job of driving down in there and establishing that and we raced into three and he just kind of washed us up because he had position on us still so uh I can't Carson drove a phenomenal race I don't I mean he looked like he had been racing it's his fifth year in the Xfinney series as smart as he drove that race so uh really great job by him uh he did nail the restart at the end just some guys, a little more track time, a little more experienced, they're a little more comfortable with the car.

If that late, we don't get one of them late cautions, I think he wins the race. Yeah, I mean, it's tough to ever give up the bottom on a green, white checker. I think you almost never want to do it. But to T.J.'s point, if you can't restart down there, you don't have a choice. But then you just have to realize that now you've just put yourself at the mercy of that guy in the bottom. And we saw the restart before. Well, we felt it. Yeah, Austin. I mean, and I think at the same time, I think Austin Hill did a good job of

wrecking himself. Wrecking himself to not wreck the whole field. But that's, you know, that you already saw, you got a blueprint right there of what's probably going to happen on this next one. And, you know, luckily Ryan did a good job where he just got in there. And like T.J. said, Ryan put himself in position where he controlled everybody's destiny when they got down to three. And it puts the T.J's point, Carson, I thought did a really good job.

He was, he started deep and wasn't in a hurry, kind of just worked his way through there. But, you know, I'll let you comment on the reset before I comment on the Xfinity race anymore. I listened to me. TJ was obviously a player in the game on the restart. You just gave your perspective. I don't have anything else to add in terms of him picking the top. Just what a phenomenal product it was on a race. I'm just a great, great, great, great race all day.

The reason why he was in position to pick the top is because my God, did the double zero and seven fumble the ball in this race. I thought like a bunch of them, not just those two. Well, I mean, there was a handful, but those two, I thought, were the class of the field all day. And then you get a rain shower that. Like, not even a shower. I think, and yeah, I mean, it was not, yeah, it was, it was very lightly rained. They didn't even dry the track.

Yeah, they never put the dryers out. Well, and then TV, you could see, you know how it is on TV, man. You could see really good, right? But you can see a couple raindrops hitting the camera. But when that started, it put you guys in a big cat and mouse game on who's pit and who ain't. So I think NASCAR's done a pretty good job in recent, in the recent years of saying, listen, you know, we're going to hold the pit road opening until we're pretty sure we're going to go back racing. You know, they're not just going to, they're not trying to, they're not trying to, if they have a feeling like they're going to go back green, they'll do a cycle. And when you shoot here, Pitt Road's open, that should be a trigger to you like, okay, they intend on restarting this.

And you could use the radar. Yeah. Like, my radar showed just a little tiny bit. Like it wasn't going to be there for a long time. And it wasn't going to be heavy. It was never going to be heavy, I don't think. And what I thought was weird was, I don't, I apologize, because I don't know who is, but the double zero's crew chief, I mean, when the yellow comes out, they're. They're. They're celebrating on the box. Like they just won the race. And I'm like, man, I don't see that. You know, I'm not, I don't know what he's looking at versus what I'm looking at. And even like one of the guys on our team, and this is at Ryan Seag racing, not to, you know, not belittling them. But it's not, I'm sure they don't have all the tools that Stuart House racing does. He comes on our radio.

He's like, you know, I don't know, we were the last car on lead laps. So we were, you know, well, we could stay out and come in whenever we wanted. He's like, listen, they're going to restart. You know, the rain's not that bad. So if our guys know that, like, how do you not know that? So when they come down, you know, they come around and the pit roads open and them guys stay out. And I know they can't make it to the end. There's only, what was there, 60 to go?

70 to go. And they're like 10 laps or so left to feel anyway. Yeah. I'm like, what do you, like, you're so, you're just banking on this with the two best race cars in the field. I just thought that was a really big mistake on their part. And then, you know, that just jumbled the whole field. But I didn't understand that at all. I think that's the two best drivers in the field at that particular moment at that particular racetrack.

But shout out to Justin Algeyer, massive hit. the week before. I mean, a gut-wrenching hit. And to come back out, it just shows you these guys aren't, they aren't wired normal. Yeah. Yeah, he's hit at Talladega. It was pretty big.

Damn, that wall, like, I don't know where it is, no matter where it is, we find that wall. Yeah, the one section. The one that's just, like, and they got it like that so the cleanup truck can drive out easily. And they fixed it. Like, it's actually not even bad, but we always find the one spot where it's a little bit worse,

it seems like. But no, Justin did a really good job. Cole was really fast. really fun race. I mean, it was a good race. I've seen drivers over the years take massive hits like that and come back the next week and not even be seen on the lead lap because it takes them a minute to get over it.

So talk about cahoons of steel. It's probably good for Joe. I mean, if it's that or Phoenix are probably Justin's best racetracks. I mean, Justin is phenomenal at. You'd have been losing your head at Justin at one point in that race. just, you know. Oh, yeah. Why?

Whenever they were trying to. So we pitted, everybody pitt. And then we chose because we're getting ready to go back green. And then it picked up just a little bit again. So they bring us down pit road. Kept us double file on the road because we've already chose. Well, then we come back out. And the other guys, the double zero pits from the outside lane.

And Justin thinks he re-were- He wants to pick. He wants to raise shoes. They were three wide coming to the green. Oh, yeah. Yeah. And they're hollering at them, but it's always been that way. You don't ever re-chews. And you're the leader.

You have, you have, you're controlling the restart, which you did a good job controlling it as well, I thought, but you don't ever re-chews. Yeah. You know, I thought two things interesting happen there. One, which a rule I learned about yesterday was if it got called there, the lineup would be set. The finish would be based off of before the choose. So they're like, if you guys, if you went from. Yeah. Oh, yeah.

Yeah. But there was one. And Bob's going to have to text me or Brett, like me and Brett tomorrow like he normally does. so them guys are low on fuel and we're riding around and there was a couple times where I thought they drove below the commitment line one time one time for sure I'm pretty sure the seven was all four below it and there was no penalty given and then I heard different I have conflicting reports that if you're saving fuel maybe that's it's okay you know or they said it was close but they reviewed it so I'm going to need Bob to somebody to to verify what the rules are rule is

in that scenario, but it looked very close, and I thought he was four wheels under at one point. Maybe I could be wrong if they had to see a video of it. There's numerous people that thought that. But yeah, it was interesting to see that as they're rolling around in the apron trying to save fuel. Continuing on, spot on, spot off, it's time to hit the panic button for Ford as they are still winless 11 races into the season, Brett. I'm going to give you a stat, Casey, that's going to help you with your deal. EBC Picks. And here's the stat for Kansas. Toyota has won all four races with this car at Kansas.

Ford has led a total of 45 laps of the 1,069 laps that have been run. So you're going into the 12th race of the season, and it doesn't look promising that you're going to compete for this win. So 12 races is one-third of the schedule. They've got to turn it around and they've got to turn around fast. And I know that they can get hot at any point in time. We've talked about Blaney being in a good spot, but this isn't just about one driver in their camp being relevant. All of their teams. I looked yesterday, Blaney was the only guy inside of the top ten for the most part for the majority of the race. They've got to steer the ship in the right direction.

And I don't know what it's going to take. Obviously, if they knew what it was going to take, they'd fix it. But this Mustang has not lived up to the height. Freddie. Yeah, I mean, obviously they would love to be in Victory Lane right now. And we talk about Ford panicking. I don't even, I don't know that Ford's the only one that needs to panic. I think maybe everybody that's not in a JRM or an HMS car probably needs to panic because

these two organizations have won every non-drafting race this year. And, you know, maybe. He didn't mean JRM. I was about to say J-GR. He meant J-GR HMS. Sorry. They've won every non-drafting track this year. So, I mean, obviously Ford wants to be better, but are you, should you be more concerned

if you're a team like trackhouse and Legacy who is running the same, manufacturer technically supposed to be the same car as HMS and and JGR and you're not performing. You know, you're not in content. You know, we talk about the Ford's not in contention. I mean, Daniel won Atlanta for drafting track. Congratulations to him. But, you know, I don't remember them guys being, you know, Ross hasn't been up there really in the mix. Maybe a couple handful, you know, a couple races here and there, but not showing great speed.

Daniel hasn't showed great speed. You know, the legacy cars, they're kind of, you know, mid-pack at best. So I don't know. I mean, Ford has to be one. worried and so does I think everybody that's not in those two organizations you know our you know 2311 is basically you know they're they're running very similar cars to what jr has and we've shown you know speed and kind of match theirs but they're not winning the races they are um so you know even we should be a little concerned with that but they you know

these two organizations are dominating the sport right now and i mean i know ford needs to be better but i mean everybody should be in a little bit panic mode right now yeah i don't i don't know if it's panic mode yet i think with the new car you're always evolving it and still working on it um you always want to be faster even if we were even if we had four wins right now we still want to be faster i mean it's never going to change i don't i think we're getting closer i think we're um you know i think our car was a top 10 car last week uh obviously plate races we've been really just had we don't have the wins but we very easily could have won duttona we very easily could have won um talladega Atlanta. We were fast. Blaney almost won as well. I don't think it's time to panic. I just think

we have a lot of smart people and they're always, you know, they're working to make the car better every week. And I do see gains in it. You know, like Freddie said, this week, I mean, we didn't qualify where we wanted to qualify, but in the race, we were able to make moves and pass and we were up near the, we were inside the top 15. And I do think we would have finished inside the top 10. But, I mean, you've got to keep working, man. I mean, we've been in this position before. It's a great run of races.

I mean, you go, obviously, you just left over, going to Kansas, going to Darlington, going to Charlotte. North Wilkesboro is what it is. I mean, we can't really count that one in the run of races because it's an exhibition race. But this is a great run of tracks to find out who's fast, and we know two of the teams that are, and Freddie's right, the other teams better catch up. Moving on, this might be my favorite quote ever from Brad,

but Brad Kislauski said the following on Air, Jones having to watch someone else drive his car. I've never seen somebody sleep with my wife, but I'd imagine that'd be what it's like. I'm afraid to hear Brett's response, but we will start with you. Man, he must love his car. A hell of a lot. That's a very, it's a great quote. Brad's been hanging around me too long. That's amazing. It's a great quote, but man, I've never. You just got to be careful here because I mean you think I mean

some people kind of enjoy that kind of thing so you're saying you I don't know if you're I mean Freddy you're egging him on yeah I'm just saying does it a good thing

a bad thing I don't know what he's really getting out of here some people are in this kind of is it is it funny or is it bad sometimes there's a car with a lot of people

ride in the car it ain't just a driver I thought it was people in the back seats I thought it was pretty funny people started coming up be on the roof, one of the breaks we had up there and were like, hey, did Brad really say

this? And I'm like, what are you talking about? I'm like, oh gosh. That's like, I feel like that's the last person you expect that. I didn't. I didn't expect that. Like, that's like a Denny quote. Or so, you know what I mean? So I got a question for y'all. No, I'm serious. So it's always been rumored to me that people in my neighborhood, if they have white rocks

around their mailboxes, their swingers. Where do you live? Is that right? The only one I heard. Have you all ever heard that? I've never heard the white rocks thing. I've heard something about some pineapples. I've heard pineapples on your shirts and stuff. Yeah. Yeah.

I've heard that's a sign. And now I feel bad because some guy might... Brad, which house is yours? I got the white rocks and a pineapple hanging from my door. The, like, now it's weird because, like, so I didn't know this. And somebody else told me, and I can't tell you the story about here, why I know this.

But please tell us. It's funny. I want out of here. But so now, so. somebody had told me this, you know, if you, it's, I think it's supposed to be like an upside down pineapple. I think is what it is. But so now I see people that got like, like, pineapple tattoos. And I'm like, oh, do you like, are you committed? Tropical, like, is somebody. Somebody, the person this story relates to is somebody who's like, I said, you know, you got a pineapple thing here. And they're like, oh, yeah, he's just, he's from Florida. I go, yeah, I don't think that's it. I don't, I don't think that's the deal. But so. So, so yeah, anyway. Well, Casey, from a girl's point of view, what do you think about the quote? Would you be, would it upset you? I mean, it's like a backwards.

I've seen Eric on Saturday and I was like, so is Brad right? Like, you watch practice today. I'd that. I would not be upset. I don't think. But I also have not thought about it. You already talk about how much Chad loves his cars more than you anyway. This is valid.

That's actually a valid point. All right, let's just back to you before Chad and I get an argument before we even seen each other today. Let's get back to the actual quote and the meaning behind it. He's with his race car. He leaves like before the sun comes out. What do you think of a, you know, Eric Jones. I saw him at the track this weekend.

He did look like he was in great spirits. And Coreyheim had a great run. Freddie, what do you think about, you know, the circumstances? We don't know when Eric will be back. So I think the biggest thing to realize, was we were going to Dover. And Eric, obviously, from what I understand, I don't know, you know, can't really get too much into it, but he had a back injury that is, it's more, they were keeping out of the car more for preventative moving forward.

Like, he wasn't in a, he was around walking around with us on Saturday night, and he seems fine. It's just a concern, especially at a place like Dover where you're, I mean, you're getting thrown down into the corner, kind of getting thrown down into the seat. So that was a place where you probably didn't need to go. I know talking to Eric, he's working to get back as soon as he can. He's hoping to be back this week. I don't know if he will be back this week or not. But, you know, I think that was, I think the place we were going played more of a role

into him getting out of the car versus, you know, him actually being unable to drive. I think it was just more of a concern about, you know, potentially doing more damage. Yeah, I don't, to me, Eric needs to get 100% before it comes back. That's just something, you know, you don't mess with, in my opinion. I mean, you just get 100% and then come back. Your car is going to be there waiting for you, ready for you to get back in it. And, you know, not to mention you want to, you want to be able to give 100% too. And if you're out there and you're hurting still a little bit, you know, and these cars are flying through the corners.

And I'm sure, I'm sure, you know, bumps would probably aggravate it. I mean, back injuries can't be fun. But I don't, like you said, you see him walking around. It looks fine. But, man, just get 100% and come back. We need, we need 100% Eric. And shout out to Corey Heim. I thought Corey did a really good job this weekend. You know, kind of quiet race.

I mean, he ran, I think he finished 25th. He showed decent speed, you know, was not a problem for us. I mean, I don't know that we ever laughed at. I don't think he got back to us at all. But I don't, I didn't hear anybody complaining about him. That's all you asked for. When you're a rookie, your first race, if you can go out there and run well and not really have anybody realize you're out there, that's a successful day for me.

Now it's time for your favorite part and my favorite part of the show, reaction theater where fans get to call in and be heard. And shout out to our sponsor Consumer Cellular for bringing this segment to you guys. Yeah, Consumer Cellular has fast, reliable nationwide coverage leading carriers, but with plans starting as low as $20 a month. And for a limited time, new customers receive their second month free when they sign up and use promo code month free by May 31st. Let's go to the calls.

We all know Jenny's great. Yep. But Dale Jr. is pretty good too, especially when he's putting, people like Budapal, Parsons Cavaple, and Big Finney series, and they're running great. Can you imagine Travis Cavapel sitting up on a collar and thinking that his kid has a chance to win in a second ever start? Dude, that kid's fire. Just like Connor Zillich, he is going to be the best next short track racer that we have ever seen. Carson's eyeball, mark our words this day, today.

I would have thought that was one of Carson's cousins, but he can't say Kvopal right. No, that definitely was not a relative. Yeah, he loves Kvopal. He does love Carson Kvapel. He should love Carson Koppel too. Kazgerala. They interviewed Carson's dad in between some of the restarts,

and he was pretty chill, man. Like, he was not pumped up. He was like, man, you know, we've been here, done that, just not on this stage with this level of competition. And I thought he managed it well. I was once again impressed. And at some point, somebody's got to look around in the building and go, how are we going to get this guy full time?

All right, let's hear the second one. Well, today's my birthday. I turned 31. Happy birthday. And Denny Hamlin won. You. I got a feeling he was giving him the 11s. I have a feeling he probably was, too.

Just leaving over, my entire experience, I was with an arm reach of Jeff Gluck, Michael McDowell, Jimmy Johnson, March, Jr., Kyle Bush, William Byron, you name me another sport where you can get that kind of access to the athlete. You're not going to find it. It's not happening. He just called Jeff Gluck an athlete. Congratulations, Jeff. You are now an athlete.

First time in forever. I'll tell you, and Brett will probably agree with this for once. Having the casino and hotel right there at the racetrack. and that accessible, like, that's a big plus. You think that's a good idea? I think it's a phenomenal. I would disagree with you. I'm saying for access for fans because, you know, we ate dinner over there.

Is sugar factory still in there? Oh, yeah, yeah. Everyone goes to dinner. Then you go there. Carousel bar. Michelle's is still there? No. No.

It's something else. The steakhouse is still there, but it's... Yeah, it's called something else. But everyone, I mean, everyone goes over there. My favorite Dover Days and years and their listeners that have... been there for this the Sheraton. I knew you were going to say it. Then the lobby house kind of took over after the Sheraton got on fire. Oh, it's probably safer. It was the Dutch Inn times a hundred. And like here's what I will tell fans. And you know, you saw Saturday night we were in that,

there's a bar right there in the center of the center of the casino. And listen, the guys are in there hanging out. Drivers are in there. There's guys in there Saturday night. And like the one thing I will say is, you know, they don't, they don't mind. Take a picture. Say hi. Don't try to be their best friend. Because there are some guys I've seen like, and they were drunk, so I don't, I got to give a break. But it's like, then they wanted to hang out and then never leave. And it's like, okay, just take your picture and say hi.

They're more than welcoming, but they, you know, probably go ahead and move on after that. You probably see 60%, maybe 50, 60% of the drivers there at some point. Between dinner and gambling. Yeah, absolutely. I mean, but that's the sport. It's true. an NFL game, you don't really get the same access. So that is one thing that Nassau does.

He gets Stefan Diggs to wave at him. That is true. He was on his shoulder. Not anymore. Not anymore, yeah. I know, but I just know how I'm excited. We don't talk about that either. Holy Moses on a rocket-powered pogo stick.

Denny Air Hamlin win the race. I'm about to go suck some toes. Suck some toes? Why? He's definitely got white rocks at his mailbox. Aye. He was wearing an upside-out pineapple when he said. Dude, that's really.

What the hell did he say? Toesucker, you. Hey, bring out the best of them. Yeah, I had no idea. Rex Ryan was a race fan. You think that was the same guy that was shaving his wife's back last week? It was waxing. Waxing his wife's back.

I thought he said shaving her back. I don't even know what to think. So I was scrolling through Twitter, as I do. And I started getting all these notifications. heard you on DBC today heard your name on DBC today I heard them bring you up on DBC today so I had to go listen

and I proceed to hear my name get brought up on DBC and I hear Freddie say I think you know I think I think he'll come to the show I don't know but you know I got to thinking I don't know that I need to buy a plane ticket come to Charlotte on a Monday to record on DBC when

you guys are just talking about me without me being there. That's free publicity, in my opinion. You know, I don't know that I need to come. So that was, for anybody doesn't know, that was Drew Parker. And we've made him famous. We've now made him famous. You're welcome.

Drew talked, he texts yesterday that people in his meet and greet at his show were talking about DBC. So he realized how big the DBC Army was this week. So we shout out to all you guys, but we are trying to get Drew in here, but he's too busy for us. Yeah. So

You know, not to blow his head up anymore. He said he did play in front of the biggest crowd he's ever played in front of, which was 85,000 people this last week. I don't know where it was. It was probably where he was that. It was biggest for Luke, too, I think he said, as well. I went to a Garth Stadium tour. I don't even know.

It was Gainesville. What's Gainesville? It's probably 80 times. You know, there was a swamp. I mean, it was, I mean, you don't know. The atmosphere is unbelievable. Yeah, that's pretty cool, though. 85,000.

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Moving on to AskDBC. Another way to get a hold of us is by using hashtag AskDBC on X. This first one is from AJ. There was a picture floating around on social media of Byron fans heading for the exits after he wrecked out. Our fans who leave sporting events early dedicated. I can't imagine spending all that money and just dip because my guy was in the wreck. Well, I left two. For different reasons. You're fair with it. You didn't stay in support.

Nick? No, no. Especially not after that. Casey, I drove to Darlington Racetrack in I think 1997. And I just have two of my wisdom teeth taken out. And Dale Earnhardt, very, very, very early in the race. had a problem. And he blacked out inside of the car. And he rode the wall for a lap or so. And then he came down pit road and he got out of the car. And they put Mike Dillon in the car to finish the race.

And I packed up my cooler and I went to the house. Like you're, you're, as I listen, listen, I grew up a huge race fan, but my favorite driver at that particular time had fallen out of the race. I didn't really have a second favorite driver. And I wasn't going to stick around there and live in a hundred degree heat to watch my guy not be out there. So, I can relate to those fans at Lee Early. I'm also a Gamecock fan, and we get blown out a lot. And we've never lost a tailgate, but I've left out a lot of half times. Yeah.

Like, we did this. We went to an Alabama game. I don't know how many years ago that was on a Saturday. We had a rare Saturday off. Seven or eight years ago. We had a Saturday off in Talladega, and we all took off to the Alabama game. And whoever gave us the tickets forgot to tell us that they were on the visitor's sideline. And one thing you never want to do in Alabama is sit on the visitor's sideline because it is, I don't know,

I'd say the surface of the sun hot. and it just bakes in the sun. So we had, we went, me and Brett were sitting next to each other and you can't really bring alcohol in there. You can't buy alcohol. So that was kind of a downer. Allegedly. Allegedly. You can bring, but you can only bring so many mini bottles.

They must have really liked to you to do. Once they ran out, once those kind of disappeared that we allegedly might have had on us, it was probably the first quarter, maybe into the second quarter. And we just looked at each other and the game sucked. like Alabama was probably blowing somebody out Tennessee. Tennessee and we left but what we didn't do was like go home we just went to a bar to watch the game. Remember who we ran into in the park? Yeah so we're walking around there's nobody

it's a ghost town because the game is like second quarter, middle of the second quarter. So there's nobody outside. It's literally just me and Brett, maybe some couple stragglers and his door swings open and this guy comes out of the door and I look at Brett and I'm like Heism a trophy one. I said Brett is that Desmond Howard? He's like

nah, yeah, that is him. So then where Brett's hitting him with the Hysman pose, and we took some pictures with him. You're not an obnoxious fan you were talking about in the casino. You could take pictures and say hi, and then you leave. Yeah. I didn't follow him to the trailer. I'm trying to be his buddy.

But it was funny that we're just three people walking around the stadium. It's me, Brett, and Desmond Howard. But then we went into a bar and enjoyed the rest of the game from there. But yeah, I don't have a problem. You see this all the time. Your team gets blown out and you leave the game. You're trying to beat traffic. I am not going to sit in there and be miserable and watch my team get the balls beat off home.

It ain't going to happen. TJ, if you're staying around for a bills blowout? Is it only if they're getting blown out, though? Like, if they're blowing the team out, will you stay? Yes. Absolutely, right? Yeah, well, I was there for the last time they played the jets. Especially if I'm on the over.

If they played the Jets and we stayed pretty much until the very end, it's a lot of fun when that's happening. But if I lived, when I lived up there, no, I'm going home. But since I only go to like a game every year or two now, even if they're getting kind of blown out, I mean, you probably stay as much as you can, but it's not fun. This next one is from Nathan with the NFL draft this past weekend. Who would you guys draft to build your own race team? What are we drafting? Drivers.

A race team? Yeah. I just said that. So we're driving drivers. Drivers. Yes. I mean, if it's me, I'm just going to, if I want to be like the bills, I'm just going to trade back twice. Just trade me your pick and trade me your pick.

ruined my Thursday night. TJ watched the whole draft Thursday night, and the bills traded out, Thursday night was just the first round. They had like the 28th pick. And he watched the whole thing and they traded twice and got out of the first round. It was like miserable.

I'm like, at least, at least draft somebody. I almost swore right there. Give you a kicker or a punter. I don't care. We'll do something fast. We'll do a mock draft. We'll draft three drivers each.

You can't draft same one twice. See who has the best team. How do we determine Alex who gets to draft first? How do you determine who's eligible? current driver Current driver's eligible Current current This is talking about

Like up and coming We're not talking Kyle Larson It could be something In the truck series Yeah this is They're talking prospects Okay I mean but how you determine

But you got to run cup this year No No no That the whole point is not running cup Any driver in contention Like Connor Zillich would be the number one pick Is what we're getting at here

Okay You know what I mean Yeah Which would I think that would be that You know so go ahead If you want to pick Who would just go around

I mean I don't think you got to pick All three of them Just pick Just pick All right, I'll take Connor. Okay. I'll take Chandler Smith.

Chandler Smith doesn't count, Dibb shit. Why? Because he's already there. We're talking about like young. So he's got to be in trucks or not in anything? I mean, you can take him, I guess. I'll take Brent Cruz.

Brent Cruz is a great pick. I take Corey Day. I'd take Carson Quaple. I thought he's already there. Well, I mean, he could a couple starts like Zillage has made starts. Like not somebody's full time for years. Technically, I guess.

I'll take SBG. He's 38 years old, but he ain't there yet. Yeah, I don't know. I'm kind of running. Because we're going to run some road courses. Blake, who I got in the cars tour? Hey, don't be helping pick your draft. You can't be reaching out.

I got my scout over here. Corey Day is a solid pick, though. Cory Day. Who's your second pick? Come on. I think Corey Day is the next Kyle Larson. I think that was my first pick. That was his first pick, yeah.

You know who I'll take? I'll take Jade Avedisi. I'll take, who's that kid to one in Chili Bowl that I always preach about? Logan TV. Yeah. I'll take Ceevy. Damn, that's where I was going to take.

Oh, should have trade it up. I think regardless the point of this whole thing is there's a bunch of them coming guys. Yeah, well, I think the biggest thing. I think Conner Zilich would be the overall number one. But that, listen, that Corey Day kid, if you don't follow dirt racing, like, you're getting ready to hear this kid's name a lot. Yeah. What an idiot.

Well, it's time for Freddy's favorite topic. What an idiot. I don't remember who I had this week. You already, you just talked about it. Hey, who's phone. fell off the rail. Yesterday? It didn't bounce.

It just rolled onto the edge, but it got like, too. I didn't see it. It was the clip and everything. I didn't see it. Oh, it was close. Panic mode sitting? I was panicking. It wasn't even me.

Yeah. Who you got? Nobody lost a bunch of money at Cino this weekend? No, thank God. I did. I lost a bunch of money. It was just a bar. The Indy car race,

whoever dropped the mannequin? Yep, at the Indy car race might be a top. Shut up. Are we sure? was a mannequin. It's definitely a mannequin because he got hit. Yeah.

Shout out to Scotty Mack for winning that. And then taking a picture with the mannequin after the race was over. I thought that was great. I'd probably keep the mannequin. One of my favorite ones yesterday was, did you see the video of Larry Mac with Mitch camera nine? Oh, Mitch is getting... Mitch got caught.

Did you see this? So they, you know how they cut to Larry Mac in the studio? And behind Larry Mac is... you know, Fox feeds. And it's over here, all they're here to the left is all their cameras. And it's listed like camera one, camera two,

whatever. So they get the bottom left, bottom right of all the cameras. It says nine Mitch. And Larry's doing, whatever Larry's doing, I didn't listen to it. But they show Mitch,

whoever Mitch is, God bless him. The Godfather. He is, you know, just on the crowd, like a wide angle of the crowd. And then he just zooms in on these three

rather good looking young ladies. Mitch does? And then zooms right back out and somebody's like, I think Barsall was what I've seen. Barstow was like, no, don't be calling Mitch out. It's all right for Mitch you get a little sneak peek. I just sent in the group meet before I watch it. The timing of it was phenomenal.

What's you doing, Mitch? What are you doing, Mitch? I don't think Mitch knew his camera was hot. Mitch probably knew his camera was up. Should we give Landon Castle what idiot for saying to get rid of his voice? Yeah. Oh, God. Yeah, I called, I texted, tweeted him in the last night he's an idiot.

while you're looking for it the I'll tell you who on the opposite side of what idiot it was Carson Kovopal's team on Friday did you see that deal where it was it was Carson right where they took the pit sign and bolted it to the right rear quarter panel

to get them back out there dude that was awesome that's what a genius that's cool and I saw them I'm like what is that oh that's awesome Scott Tapley's a buddy of mine he said that happened back in the day I forget what track he said was at

but they they knocked the spoiler off of Kelly Moore's car and they took the pit sign and built a makeshift spoiler out of it. So that's not the first time it's happened, but that was to, I was, I was looking at it on Twitter, watching on Twitter and I seen a picture. I'm like, what are they doing? I was like, they took a pit sign and bolted it to the right rear quarter panel. Thank gosh they got something back on the right rear rear rear. Because that car would have been a handful. Yeah. If it didn't have a right rear quarter panel. That's what, Herm said to me, after Justin got

the fence there when the, when Austin Hill wrecked and Justin basically knocked the spoil off his car and knocked the right rear quarter panel off. And just, Herman looked at me, he's like, what's the seven going to do here? I said, probably spent out if I had to catch them, sure enough. Or off a four, you lost it. Yeah, we didn't need them cautions, by the way. We didn't need them cautions. Moving on to DBC picks.

Good pick, Brett. Appreciate you. Yes. Shout out to Freddie winning with Larson. You're welcome. Thanks. I was a little under the weather last week. I didn't need to.

We are taking picks for Kansas. Once again, this is the worst words than golf. Casey. It's still your turn. I won last week. Don't be rude. You won last week? You got the win? Taladega. Yeah. Congratulations. Thank you. I will...

Remember what I told you earlier. I need you to win right here. I know. I'll take Reddick. Oh, is Reddick available? Let's make sure we don't get DQed here. No, don't tell her because she's done it twice. Yeah, I have it. Okay. Brett, who do you have? I'm going to go with...

Man, let's see. This is a tough one. Who's in the 51 this week? 51's always Justin Haley. Oh. What about the 15? I would assume Cads, but it could be... Oh, no.

No, it's... I think it's Riley. Riley Hurts. Because Joel's spotting, I think. I know Ford sucks there, but there ain't nowhere else I'm going to pick Riley Herps. So I'm going to go with Riley Herbst. Oh, laying up this week. Big time.

But I'm taking a fast. car. TJ. I'm going to, I'm sorry, you're probably going to DNF again. I'm taking Bubba. Thanks, Tim. I almost picked him, but he was in the Xfinity car last week, and I just. Speaking of DNFs, this guy is going to have to turn it around.

I'll take Christopher Bell. Taya, y'all went Toyota, Toyota, Toyota. At least y'all listen. He has been turned around a lot this year. Thanks, our buddy, Trey. I mean, he's had the last three weeks, it's like he got caught in our mess yesterday, got runover at Talladega. The wheel fell off at Texas. I hope he's out there, I don't know, picking out horseshoes or something. What? Okay. Or, yeah, it's good luck, Casey. Geez. Looking ahead to the next

few weeks before we chat Kansas, the NFL, there was a comment made around the start of next season, potentially wanted to go to 18 games. So they also would like to start the season on a weekend where they have a Monday off, which would be Daytona 500 race weekend. What do you all think about that potential move? I think that means the Daytona 500 moves. I don't know when or where. But does it move forward or doesn't move back? I have no idea.

Probably forward. It ain't going to move back toward Christmas, in my opinion. What are you going to do, have a Daytona 500 and then then what? What are you going to do on Super Bowl Sunday? Hey, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. You've always preached. They've never listened. that we should have the Daytona 500 and then an off week.

I agree. But are you going to have the Daytona 500 and then have an off week? We've never done it. We might now. But kind of the whole landing point of the Daytona 500 was on that president's day weekend. I mean, that was kind of the thing. Unfortunately, Casey, I think it, I mean, does it really matter if it's the next weekend?

What I can tell you will not happen is we will not race the same day as Super Bowl. Right. I mean, here's the number. I mean, there's a million reasons why I could tell you I'd love to have a week off after the Daytona 500. One of them is because if it rains on the day of the Daytona 500, I'd almost see them rather see them do it the next Sunday. So that our ratings aren't in the tank because we're racing on a Monday afternoon. You know, and obviously it could rain the next Sunday, too, but I'm a huge fan of racing the Daytona 500. Given that team, give the industry, give media an opportunity to celebrate that for the extra week.

Would there be, and at such a. I don't think I would like this, and we don't ever see good numbers. But would there be an audience for the Daytona 500 on Saturday night, Super Bowl weekend? Man, I don't, I mean, listen, there's a lot of national championships in college football that kill it. Even look at college basketball. The women's college basketball game. It was on Sunday. It got 20 million people on a Sunday night.

But, like, I mean, you could run the Daytona 500 at 7.30 on Sunday night after the Super Bowl. Because Super Bowl is usually like a 2 o'clock kick. No, it's not. Is it later? Yeah, man. It's like a six o'clock. It's like a great when you just said. Yeah, we're running it after the next day.

I don't remember what time the game started. We are not running it after. It's your rule. Listen. Midnight. Go and green. For the industry, Casey, it would probably suck because it's probably going to vacuum out of an off weekend that might be there.

Because we can't, we shouldn't go any later in the year. You know, we're already going. I mean, we've been trending toward not going as far as we were in the past, which I was a fan of. Because then you get into competing with an NFL even more. Yeah. Holiday season two. The answer is we don't have any answers

Until the NFL may The only answer we have Is they're not going to run Super Bowls today I will tell you this man We've been in I remember being in Vegas for a test Watching the Super Bowl Remember that?

But that wasn't fun Like we were literally That was terrible It was remember Did you were you there for that? I went every year for that Yeah I didn't go to the test I just flew out of the Super Bowl

It was a true story You know what? No no no It might have been the race I can't even remember It definitely wasn't a race Difference in progress he's here.

I didn't go to the Vegas test. I went to the Super Bowl. I 100% believe it. Yeah. 100%. It was a good average friends. Oh, and then yesterday, Kyle. But I mean, back on one's like,

could Fox even want to do the Super Bowl? Because don't they still have the Super Bowl and the dates on a 500? I don't know. You know, yeah. It's like once every three years for them because it rotates. Is it? So it rotates. Yeah.

Because that obviously could be a challenge, too. Come in with the knowledge, Alex. I feel like they do use the same somewhat equipment or something like that too, so there might be a conflict. Oh, yeah. Larson announced yesterday during Dover pre-race that Kevin Harvick will be coming out of retirement to fill in for him for practice and qualifying for the All-Star Race while Larson is practicing for the Indy 500. What do you all think about that one? Yeah, I saw some people getting like push back to Larson about not practicing. I think he's okay.

Yeah, like he'll be fine. Did you all watch the race last year? The less proud as he gets, the better. And like, he needs to be focused on going, whatever, it's going to be some crazy number of 230 miles an hour and not worried about getting back for practice. So, yeah, I mean, I mean, why wouldn't you call the closer off the bench? Like, that's what you do. You call the closer out of the bullpen.

And Kevin, I mean, he's got to be the best available guy to get feedback-wise, you know, so. I mean, he's fresh out of the car still, honestly. Part of me wishes it wasn't Kevin Harvick because, I mean, if you're in the junior motorsports, Hendrick Motorsports Pipeline, and they don't pick you to go practice the car and qualify the car, like... Who would you pick then from that pipeline? Well, I mean, obviously they've got Sammy Smith. They've got Sam Mayer.

They've got Justin Allgaier. I mean, they've got guys that are capable of driving race cars. Because if, for God forbid, a Hendrick Motorsports driver gets hurt, they're not going to be able to put Kevin Harvick in the car to replace him for the rest of the year. So part of that was confusing. But for me as a fan, I think it's a huge win because Kevin is on TV talking about these cars and it keeps him very relevant in knowing how they drive at a short track. For me, as an owner, it's a win because to Freddie's point, he's the best guy to bring off the bench that's probably driven these cars and is an amazing

racer as a industry person my biggest question to kevin harvick which would probably be had behind closed doors is when you unloaded your shr car here last year how did this car drive compared to yours why is this car so much faster what feels different because when we left harry scott motorsports and we went to stewart hoss racing you know clint made a lot of comments about you know the cars and and the speed, but one of the things he said is you would expect this thing to drive a lot different for me to go this much faster. And it's really not that way. This car just goes faster. I remember. You see what I'm saying? Elliot said the same thing, too, didn't he? When he was talking about like leaving,

I think he left Roush to go to Gibbs or, you know, like he said, I'm not driving any different. I'm just going faster. You know, like, this car just has more speed. But I think it'll be interesting that weekend. And it'll be great for the people watching the broadcast, because because Kevin can tell you what the five was doing yesterday. You know what I mean? Like it's not so much he talked to Kyle and, you know, got Kyle's feedback or clips and got feedback. Kevin was driving the car yesterday so he can break down like what they were challenged with or, you know. So I think that would be an interesting aspect for the people watching at home.

I looked at four perspectives. I bawled in for three of the four reasons. Yeah. Fair. Definitely cool news, though, for the sport. Speaking of cool news for the sport and we almost forgot it like it seemed like everybody else did this week. Anthony Alfredo won 100 grand. I was about to call it out of me.

Is he buying dinner? I seen Josh Graham at the bar at the casino, the bar and the casino afterwards. And man, what a, what a just, I mean, and listen, he wasn't like, I mean, Jason Love, Jesse Love did get two laps down, him and Truex racing a hell out of each other

and Riley got turned around there at the end and Rick. But Alfredo wasn't like some slouch that was running 50th all day and just backed into this. He drove from last up into the top 15, and I think he was running into top 10 or around the top 10. He was. Towards that, you know, at the end of the second stage or early third stage.

So they had speed. They were really fast. So congratulations to them guys. And he was eligible because he did so out Tal Deva. So it's not like he's a one and done. I'm not going to lie to you. Me and Brett were having a conversation with Jesse Love. And who was the fourth guy?

It was Jesse. Ryan Seek and Riley Hurst. I didn't really see in it. Yeah, because remember he should have won. Oh, he won. He won Taladega. But he finished 15. So I didn't think he was in this one.

I thought it was somebody else. but it was I don't remember but we were talking to Jesse Love and I said legitimately and probably wrong on my part for saying it but I said the good thing was you you when you get the dash or to catch a Talladega sometimes you end up with guys that you don't normally race with and you know if you were to tell me to pick between Jesse Love and Anthony Alfredo going into the race you know I'm going to pick Jesse Love every time 10 times out of 10 so you know it's you know the circumstances happen and but it wasn't like I said it wasn't something that Anthony backed into. He ran pretty well all day long.

I was watching at an awesome little bar in Georgetown, South Carolina, and I was like, why don't they keep showing the dude wipes car? Because I had completely forgot it was even a dash for cash race. And then I finally was like, oh, that's why. So shout out to him, man. That's a big win for that little team. And obviously he gave you some quotes as to wine, but that's such a great program. It is. I think it helps you really highlight drivers who, you know, having Talladega especially, I love post to Halliaga. because these teams that maybe don't have the opportunities all season, they really get to, you know, be proud of the work that they've done

and have a chance of the strong finish. And then they go to Dover and, you know, obviously we don't really know what outcome will be. But for Dash for Cash, you know, somebody like an Anthony Alfredo, Ryan Seag, somebody who may not have had the chance at a race other than Taladega gets that shot again. So really cool for them, really cool that NASCAR and Xfinity does that. Oh, all right. Well, looking ahead to Kansas, what can fans expect as they catch the races this weekend? It's great.

We're going widen out. Same thing we asked last week. One of two. Yeah, I mean, this place. One two is phenomenal up top. This place is great. Let me tell you how it's going to, how wide it's going to widen out here in a second. You could probably expect to find me and Brett in a certain a place across the street on Saturday.

Where are you staying? I don't know. I know I'm leaving Saturday morning at 7 o'clock. I'm leaving at 7.15. That means I got to get up at 5. I wonder what time the truck races. We probably can't go. It's evening.

Yeah. Because Arc is a ride-race. You got Arker race in the afternoon? Me? He's going to be wherever Freddy said they're going. No, I'm not going to be able to go because I'll be truck racing. It's going to be low 70s, Saturday, low, 73, Sunday, 71 Saturday. A hundred-mile-hour winds.

Sunny, oh, yeah. Loose in the three. Good. Pretty much. You'll hear that a lot. I thought Wizard of Oz was a movie. Now, that's some real-life shit out there. Dude, David.

Hey man, I mean, hope everyone out there. That's some rough weather. It was been really bad. Did they have a rough run? Recently? Yeah, last week. Big tornadoes. Yeah.

Thank you about everyone out there. But looking at Kansas, they've noticeably had incredible finishes. Obviously, the wind de facto restarts are insane. What, you know, as you prep for this weekend, what have you been chatting with your team on? Like Freddie said last week, this car has shined for the most part of a mile and a half. so let's hope we hang our hat on a good race. Yeah, I mean, it's just, there's really nothing to prepare.

I mean, you can watch all the stuff you want, you're just going to see driver's tendencies, but restarts are wild, and then you just got to see, you know, how the lanes move around. Well, I mean, what, what is Nick going to watch for 30 hours this week? He's been preparing for this since October. Yeah, he prepared to run fifth last,

he wanted to be fifth. I said him a text, Tyler a text. I mean, hey, man, great job being right in the position you guys plan to be. Tyler is pretty witty. His response was pretty funny. Drew it right up. Just how you planned it.

Oh, Nick. Six to 10 mile an hour winds. That's pretty nice. Oh, that's unbelievable. Dude, you have no idea how windy it's been this year. Yeah. It's been the windiest year that I can ever remember. Yeah.

I love weather elements and wind is not one of them. I love weather. What kind of elements do you love? Yeah, what? I love cold. I love snow. I love 70 degrees. I do not like above 85 and I do not like wind.

It was hot yesterday. You wouldn't have liked yesterday. So you ever heard of nociums? The little bugs that, yeah, they're in Daytona, they bite. So they don't bite me. But apparently they bite the hell out of everybody else. I was at the wedding of Georgetown. They know better about you.

This weekend. And I guess you can't really see them and you can't really feel them like a mosquito when it bites you. But you feel it when it bites you. You're full of insect knowledge. I learned an insect from Bodie, Brett's son one day. He said something to me, Megan got bit by a red ant. Oh, yeah. And Bodie said, yeah, that's a piss ant.

And I was like, oh, what? Yeah. pissant. I was like, what the hell is a pissing? He says, they bite the piss out of you. He's like eight years old. I was like, geez. Nobody was a hit of the wedding this weekend, as you can imagine. They probably got a whole colony out there, but in white rocks. Anyways, thank you all so much for listening. Thank you for those who stopped by in Dover this weekend. It was really cool to meet a ton of people, a ton of fans, asked a lot of questions.

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What is going on with my father? Somebody in your house is Instacarting. Hey, let me right back. All right. Well, they go grocery shop. Thanks, nuts. Thank you all so much. Have a great week.

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