Door Bumper Clear - 33 - Insight from an Official NASCAR Official

Episode Date: September 13, 2016

TJ, Brett, and KB get a unique perspective on today’s topics from NASCAR Official Jason Brownlow. Want more DBC? Check out and subscribe to the new DBC YouTube channel! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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You win. Oh, yeah! Do you want inside information? You will not be able to repeat it to your kids, but you will learn and you will laugh. Door, bumper, clear, is on. Hey, everybody. I'm T.J. Majors. Spider the 88 Cup car, the 7xfinity, and the 29 truck.

Joining me today, the regular cast of... Brett Griffin, Spiter, Elliot Sadler, Clint Boyer, and our wonderful, beautiful non-emergency room co-host. Hi, guys, it's KB. She did her hair up so well today, too. We've got to take a groupie. We got a selfie. We've got to selfie your hair today.

Let's do it. Yeah. So, anyway, we're coming at you from the Exalta Studio. Speaking of Exaltza, don't forget to head over to the revamped Exaltor Racing.com to get all the latest news, photos, and schedule for Dale's number 88 Exalta Chevrolete. Why didn't you say W.W.W. Exaltta. Sometimes I say that. And sometimes, I mean, you threw me off because I was saying Bill Bev DeVoe wrong this morning. Yeah, yeah, you said that wrong. It's Bibb. Biv. Bill Biv DeVo. Not Bev DeVo. Guess who's here? Who's here? He's here.

Jason Brownlow is making his way. We have NASCAR royalty walking into the Exaltes. studios. Yes. And he is late. Yep. He's nine minutes late for tech. Nine minutes late. You know that's a 15-minute penalty next week, Jason?

Sit down and throw a headset on. Yeah. You know what? You need to sit at the front of the line for 15 minutes and you can't talk. Yeah. It's trip wires. Don't be stepping on a cord. We booby-trapped the studio.

So I reached out to NASCAR and I said, hey, we got an official coming on. I need a list of everything. we cannot talk about on the show. And then NASCAR called me and said, what is your show about? Don't let Brett ruin NASCAR. And so from that script, I think all we can really talk about are the Georgia Bulldogs, Brown-Low. What do you think? That sounds good. You're going to stand up this whole show? Were you making you uncomfortable? No, I got a little back thing. Oh, so. Are you sure you're okay? Yeah, I'm sure you're okay. Yeah, I'm probably got some drugs for it. Do you want me to grab you a chair? Oh, I got plenty of them.

Okay, good. Good. I got a good doctor. 10-4 only good doctor, man. So we're just getting going on the show, man. Welcome aboard. Thank you. Welcome aboard. Hey, before we dive into this thing, Jason's going to join us for the whole show, man.

Just tell us what your role is as an official so that everybody understands what the hell you're doing on here with us today. And how long you've been with NASCAR? I've been with NASCAR for going on 14 years now. And my main speciality is safety. So I do all the interior stuff on the cars for inspection. During practice and whatnot, I'm either usually in the flag stand or up in the spotter stand. And it's pretty much about it.

You know, during the races, I'm usually out either in the pro trailer or up in the tower, running the pro trailer system, which we could probably talk about later on. And it's fun. It's been great. Yeah. It's been awesome. I put him in our top two officials we like on a special. spotter stand wouldn't you?

Soco's not the number one more. Why you got to put me up a spot like that? I'm kidding. Yeah, sure. Yeah, Jason's, uh, he's a definitely in the top, one of the top ones. Actually, we've got a pretty standard group that we've been getting lately now. Soco and Jason, we've got a, and, uh, and he's probably the only one I'd say, let's get rid of the rest of them I like.

And the, the girl, what's her name? She, she goes, yeah, she does a good job. She's awesome. When she come up there the first time, you could tell she really wasn't sure and stuff, but she's not. I mean, she goes around, checks us all off, gets it done. She's got a lot of tattoos, Kristen, you'd like her. Oh, yeah?

Yeah. She's in-dust. She's quiet. I'm like you. Except for your first show on here when you're really shaking. Yeah. Now look at me. Yeah, I know.

Look at you now. Kristen Mingle. She's got a website. Did you know she tried to register Kristen Mingle? No, I didn't. You looked at all. Okay, you idiot started this whole thing. And then I just looked up to see if the URL was free and it's not.

And some guy tried to sell it to me for $9,000. I got five on it. Yeah. Maybe we can start a go fund me for Kristen Mingle. Everyone can start chipping in. They look like you were mingling pretty good at the pit game this weekend. Yeah. You were tweeting pictures of people vomiting on themselves.

There was a guy in front of it. It was the most fans that have ever been at a Pittsburgh sporting event, the history of it, 70,000 fans. Wow. And Penn State the first time in 16 years, they played each other. It's a state rivalry. It was an amazing experience being there. They haven't played in how long? 16 years.

That's crazy. You think they would play more for the, I mean, it would be a good rivalry. So there was a guy standing in front of us, a pick guy, and he got so drunk, he threw up on a Penn State fan next to him. But he left and bought more pick gear, left his tags on and came back, finished the game. He was a true, he's a warrior. I was pulling for pit. So did you throw up? Go ahead.

I did not. No, but I had a great time and I got kind of somber. I was pulling for pit for two reasons. Number one, you were there. Number two, Tony Dorset was there. Yeah, he was. He's a man. We got emails from like Mike Dix, Dick,

before the game and clearly it wasn't him but and Dan Marino we got some good guys coming out there Larry Fitzgerald that's cool yeah yeah yeah Pitt's had uh Sean McCoy you know what I remember about Pitt is I remember the first game of the college season about three four years ago when James Winston was starting for Florida State we were still in the big east it was where we yeah his first game was at pit and I remember watching that game on Thursday night to start to see it it was I was on the road but I remember watching it and that's one thing I remember about Pitt You got a good, there's a, the running back there has a really cool story, doesn't he? James Connor, yeah, he just beat cancer.

He just got done chemotherapy, I think, three months ago. And he, the first touchdown last week against Villanova was James Connor. Yeah, I thought that was a pretty cool. He's got a good spirit of great attitude, so. That's pretty inspiring. Anyway, I got a question. So this, are we allowed to talk about the pro trailer right now? Whatever you want to talk about?

What's a pro trailer? So pro trailer is the new thing that watches all the pit road stuff when something, when a tire rolls out, when something goes, was wrong, it's from the pro trailer. Over the wall too soon, anything like that, the pro trailer calls the name. What's it like working in there? Is it hectic and chaotic during pit stops? How many officials are in there? So there's eight officials in there. Each has a dual monitors computer set up and a monitor above them. Once cycle pit stops come in, it's a random deal. So it doesn't matter, you may get the 48, you may get the 20.

five or whatever. It's just random. Every time. Every time. Yeah. So it's just all random. And what it does is it'll log all the pit stops. So you'll have like eight guys going at once. As soon as you're done with the pit stop, it'll pull up the next one that's in Q and run it until everything's done. How many per, how many do you normally get? How many do you normally have four or five cars? Yeah, on average four or five cars depending on. And you've got to watch all their pit stops. Correct. Depending on the pit stop, you know, if they've got damage or something, of course, their pit stops are going to be longer.

Yeah. Everybody else is going to pick up the slack and get the other stops. So relevant to what we've seen in the past 10 weeks, these guys on the right side of the car, when the Jackman is slamming into the door to give them an air advantage, that's something you guys are looking for as you watch the whole pit stop? Correct. Yeah. So, for example, if that happens, we would call up to. the maybe call it

the head official or whatever that's in the tower that has the same system in front of them that is watching

everything. Right. If it's a concern that official will tell the series director hey, you need to

look at this and the series director would make the judgment call which is hoots. Is that hoots or is that buck?

It would be Buck, Wayne or Chad. Yeah, okay. So do you replay it

if you see something? And then you make the call to up to the tower? Do you have the ability to replace stuff? Yes. So we can stop, freeze frame. We can go second by second. We can rewind, all that stuff.

Because it's just like tape recorded. Does it light up for you? Like, you know how they show on TV? Like, okay, this tire rolled out. It has like a red square where the pit stall is. And if the tire rolls out of there, you know what I mean? Does it light up like that at all? Or you just got to watch the stop and watch for certain things?

You've got to, it doesn't light up like that. I mean, there's a. box outlining the pit box that's on there. Just to give you an idea what you're looking for. Correct. Yeah. So the computer doesn't call any, well, I'll take that back. The computer does, can call driving through too many pit boxes.

Is it light up or does it? How does it show you that? It would light up. It would say there's a down at the bottom of the screen. It would show vehicle. And then you can go back and look at it and make sure that it is a legit call. It calls going out more than three. Once you see that, you can look at it and make the judgment call it.

You know, was he forced down? You know, were there too many cards coming out and he just couldn't get over? And, you know, the other thing. Is that something that you guys look at? Like, does that make it legal to drive through too many stalls if you're forced there? If you're forced down, yes. Okay. Like if...

I've just, I've kind of wondered that myself. I mean, do you... If you swear to be able to avoid contact or whatever, then, you know, if you go over there to avoid contact or something like that, then it's understandable. Yes, it's understandable. But just to do it just to get a good entry is not. Correct.

Yeah, I got you. Is that stressful watching four or five, six pit stops at one time? Or it's just like old hat now for you? Since we've been doing it for the past two years, yeah, it's just gotten routine. The one thing I can say is it's in double time. So it's not like a normal pit stop. When we see it and watch it, it's twice as fast, just as though you can get through the pit stops faster. once you get used to it, you know, you see the normal stuff, you know what you're looking for,

but you have the ability to slow it down if you need to. So if you have your choice, spotter stand during the race, flag stand during the race, pro trailer during the race, we're at the final one in Homestead. Which one are you picking? Pro trailer. Pro trailer. Yeah. Just because it's air-conditioned.

And we thought we had serious insight coming. All right, we're going to kick this thing off. We're going to come back to you in a minute. Jason, want a bunch of questions, and we're going to bring you into some of this discussion, too. Kristen, that's your cue. So we're heading into spot on, spot off.

I do that every time, don't I? Yeah. It's like the fake break? All right. So spot on, spot off. We'll start with Jason. We'll just give you a topic, and you just say, spot on, spot off,

and then explain why you said that. You go with that? Like, if you agree with it, like it, like it, dislike it. And sometimes they'll... That's spot on. All right, spot on, spot off, Jason. Battle at Bristol. same time and day as

Richmond race. Spot off? I guess what is spot on and spot off? Spot on means thumbs up. Spot off means bad idea. I'll pass on that one. I'll go spot on. I mean, there's not much of a choice.

I mean, I guess they could have planned it for another weekend, but you're always going to be going up against something on a Saturday night. It would be real hard to plan I mean, there's a lot of college football games to schedule through. And I'm sure they don't look at the NASCAR schedule when they plan their games. As long as the NASCAR race isn't at Bristol that weekend, they probably don't care much about it.

I'm going with what Brownlow said to start with, spot off. And here's why you could have had this game a week earlier on Saturday night and it not have gone up against a race. It's almost like ISC got the middle finger from SMI. You know, like SMI said, hey, we on Bristol. You guys are racing at Richmond on Saturday night. Watch this. We're going to go head to head. with you. We're going to take all your fans out of Richmond and Tennessee, and we're going to

bring them over here to watch college football. So spot off next year, play it on Saturday night, Liberty weekend when college football kicks off. This was almost a travesty. Virginia Tech almost loses the Liberty. Tennessee almost loses the at-state. Like if one of those had lost, this game would have been irrelevant. Yeah. Josh was there. It almost was irrelevant still. Josh doesn't have a headset today. He doesn't. Say whatever one. Yeah. Spot on, spot off. Ryan Newman's comments on incident with smoke. I say spot off. You've got to draw a line somewhere.

That guy employed him. I'm not going to lie. Ryan was driving that race very aggressively. I'm not saying the contact needed to happen. Ryan was doing what he thought he needed to do to get in the chase. And he got to a guy that doesn't like to be pushed around, and the guy handled it. Ryan, we had a little incident with Ryan in turn one.

He dove in on Jeff, and I thought Jeff was going to leave the lane open, but he didn't. but Ryan, he would dive, you'd turn off the wall, and then he would go lower than you after you already turned off the wall, and it makes it real hard on a spotter at that point. And even the driver, when you're like, oh, he's falling into the corner, inside, inside, inside, after your guys already committed to the bottom.

Yeah. And that's fine. You can drive like that, but you can't drive everyone like that. Somebody, we'd actually got back to Ryan the next time, and Jeff wasted no time bumping him a little bit and passing him. And Ryan knew, and Ryan, it was fine. Yeah. But he apparently, I didn't see every time that he run into Tony.

Apparently he gave Tony three or four shots before Tony had enough. Comments are definitely spot off. I mean, there's a guy bro code around here, and then he definitely went way over the line, in my opinion. And at TJ's point, I completely agree. He was racing like an asshole. Spot on, spot off. Richmond was a wreck fest. Spot on for the second half.

My God. Have we ever torn up that many cars in 200 laps? You know, the first half went pretty, pretty, Easily. I didn't think the second half was going to turn into that. But, yeah, it was a... There was a couple big ones. Big ones.

Yeah, like big ones. Like, I can't believe we made it through a couple of them. It was wreck after wreck after wreck. And then you look up front at the end and you're like, nobody is eligible to win this that's not already locked in with the exception of Casey Kane who got up to like fourth on the last restart. Like, I mean, you're watching this play down and play out and you're like, why? None of you guys that have to win are even close to winning.

Yeah. It's crazy. Spot on, spot off. Truex Jr. fails post-race tech. I don't know how many times we can spot off this stuff. It's becoming a normal. It's becoming, you know, I don't want to bash it too bad since Jason's here. If you don't, if you're not legal, you shouldn't get the win, in my opinion.

If you don't pass inspection, you are not legal. The point penalty means nothing. The money means nothing at this point. Your sponsor is celebrated. Your car was in victory lane. everyone says you won the race. Nothing against Martin or any of the guys that win, but we need to have legal race cars.

Here's the thing with Martin Truex. T.J. is definitely spot on with his comments. With Martin Truex, if he fails post-race tech, it doesn't matter. Other than the fine, it doesn't matter. So this kind of leads us into... Say Casey Kane wins the race and fails tech. It doesn't matter. Doesn't matter.

He's in the chase. How is that right? That's not right. You know what I mean? That could be anybody. Say McMurray or somebody that had to win. Ryan Newman wins the race. Fails the chase.

Still in the chase. How? And here's the thing about it. If you fail it at Daytona to start the year, it's no different than failing at the last race to make the chase. So it's a lot to police. But this is a good time to ask Jason a question. I don't agree with a lot, Ricky Craven says.

But I'm going to pose what he said first. He said that NASCAR should look at a system that once you pass pre-race tech, you shouldn't have to worry about post-race tech. That should be the end of it. You shouldn't tech the cars after the race. Do you think there will ever come a time that the guys could play in that box legally and NASCAR say,

hey, we're not going to tech cars after the race? I don't think it'll ever happen. I think just the continuity of trying to make sure that everybody's legal after the race that, you know, no one's going out there to cheat. Right. I mean, they're going out there, they're going to push the bounds.

that they can. And sometimes it goes over those boundaries. But as NASCAR, we need something after the race to make sure that, yeah, we can say that it was good or bad. So it seems to me this year we've had a lot more people disqualified after the races for wins. Yeah. This year stands out to me as being before it was like after qualifying or something like that, you have a guy that might not make it. Now it's like once a month we have a guy that's not legal after the race and it doesn't even matter. Right.

So, you know, what about a tech that, okay, after the race, say, hey, we're going to tech three things. We're going to make sure all lug nuts are on. We're going to, you know, we're going to make sure your weight's right. And we're going to, you know, maybe we're going to do whatever, dino, whatever. You know, if it's not going to, you know, if you're not going to care about the other stuff, why I haven't really tech it? You know what I mean? Why not just have a standard tech after the race, you know, scales, lug nut check. Dino, boom.

Or, you know, take the car back, top three. Jason now has grill marks on his back. T.J.'s roasting him right here. We're going to take a quick break. We'll be right back to continue this Jason Brownlow show. That rhymed. Hey, it's Mike Davis. Join us each Monday on the Dale Jr. Download podcast as we recap the race with

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Fast Lane is? I'm going to ask a question. And one of them is going to go first and has 30 seconds to respond. And then the other person goes. And then the person who responded first gets to rebuttal whatever the second person said. We just argue, really? Basically, it's an argument in 30 seconds snippets. Your name's on here when we expect you to be involved. Okay. And if it's highlighted, it's up to you. Yep. We're just trying to be aware of the sensitivities that it takes to be Jason Brownlow. All right, let's go, good girl. Chris Gale will crew chief for Eric Jones next year

in Cup. Eric will be a rookie driver. Chris will be a rookie crew chief. Should they have a rookie spotter as well? Absolutely 100% not. You're the biggest race of the year is the Daytona 500. You probably shouldn't have a rookie coming to there. You wouldn't want a rookie.

You wouldn't want Jared Goff coming in and playing in the Super Bowl. It was his first game of the NFL career. So, you know, I definitely don't think it's good to have a rookie spotter. We heard a lot of talk early on when we found out Eric Jones was going Cup Racing that he was bringing a rookie spotter, that it was his late model guy. Now since Chris Gale's been assigned as a rookie crew chief, it sounds like they're shifting

their focus toward more of an experienced guy. TJ is definitely spot on with what he's saying. You can't put all three nobs out there at the same time and expect a good result. It will not happen. I mean, you can. You can put them all out there. It looks like Robbie Gordon. Yeah, it's going to look like maybe work.

worse than that. Stephen Wallace? That's scary. Hit the post at Daytona and the testing there when he clobbered at that one year. But yeah, you can't do that. I mean, I wouldn't personally want that.

I would want somebody that's been up there and spotted them races talking to me and telling me where to be at. Who do you think is the most underrated driver in the Xfinity series, Brett? Oh, I'm going first. I've got Bubba Wallace. I think Bubba's proven he can win races in the truck series. He's in equipment

right now that just for whatever reason isn't that fast. I think if you made me pick one guy, I'd like to see in a good cup car. It'd be Bubba. Yeah, I would like to see Bubba in a quality ride. Again, when he ran the gibstuff, he was fast. He made a decision to go run a full schedule instead of a partial schedule. And I think it's biting him a little bit. But, you know, I definitely, I agree.

I'll give Bubba a shot. Wow, T. Jason, who you got? I'm more say Jeremy Clemens. for single car team and it's a family run team. They build their own motors. Oh, really?

Yeah. Wow. So with what he's been able to do, even though he's, you know, mid-pack and whatnot, I mean, he's up there. South Carolina boy too. Go Cox.

I will say this real quick, this on Jeremy Clemens, a long time ago, I went and watched a dirt late model race somewhere local around here, and this is when he was still around dirt late models and he had a nice dirt late model and he wore them out that.

I mean, And they built race and motors for that, too, and they were pretty stout. The past three races, he's been up in the top 15, top 10. He does. He's a very nice person, too. He does well for what they have. His fiancé, not that anyone cares, is one of my good friends. I'll tell you.

Hey, who also I've been impressed with here recently is Ryan Preece. Yeah. He's actually stepped up, picked up the program over there a little bit. It seems like in the O-1 car. Yeah, they've been around the top 15, and he's in. Is that the Scuba Life car? No, it's the O-1 car. He's maybe in top 25 equipment, running top 15.

Yeah, he's running, he was pretty decent at Richmond. He ran top 10. Darlington, 9th, I think. Yeah, so that's pretty cool to see. Yeah. What are the biggest surprises about the drivers who made the chase, TJ? Oh, man. The biggest surprise is about the drivers who made the chase.

Well, I think, first of all, you know, seeing Chris Buescher in there is a huge surprise. I don't think anybody would have ever picked that at the beginning. of the year. Oh, that was it? Yeah, it's pretty standard. I would have picked 300 guys to be in the chase, and they would have been Dale Jr., Jimmy Johnson, Casey Kane. Big surprise that Chase Elliott's in.

Obviously, Dell Jr.'s had health issues, and Casey Kane didn't make it. Very surprised both Gannasi cars made it. I mean, you got Kyle Larson in his third season, Jamie, a veteran, big accomplishment for those guys. So I would say those are the two biggest surprises for me. I'm going to have to probably agree with. With Brett, the biggest surprise is Casey Kane not making it. Figured he would be up there with the equipment that he has.

You do a lot better than what he did. One thing about our season is it's a lot easier to start off the year. Winning the Daytona 500 one year, that was the easiest season I've had. Right, no pressure. That race, that one race erased pressure until the chase started again. And we won four races. We won four, yeah, I think we won four races that year. it was the easiest four races, like to win.

Not that they were easy, but there was no pressure. We knew we could just, it made it a lot easier. And when you, like Casey had a string of bad luck there at the beginning of the year, and it's really hard to dig out of a hole like that. You start getting more desperate as the season goes on and if things can backfire real quick on you. What is the ideal track to kick off the chase and why, Brett? Do I get to play Mike Hilton right here? I've got two things that I think are important.

Number one is an international audience. Number two is the diversity of the driver So I'm going to go with a road course in Montreal I think we can go to Canada I think we can have a road course in the chase And say truly the champion is a well diverse driver He made it through short tracks, plate tracks Intermediate tracks and a road course

Yeah I think I would like to I think I would like to To start off with a place like Bristol I think that would be pretty fun I think you go in there And Bristol's already on the edge of You know man we're going to race It's Bristol.

Anything can happen. And it's kind of like a Talladega or Daytona or Daytona where anything can happen there too. But we go to Bristol, man. You can have a guy. We had Di Benadetto finish top five. Say his name again. Debenetto.

Correct. I just say it all at one time. Dibbendetto. I can't say it either. That's why I say it all one word. Hey, you can't, he broke my 30 seconds up. Anyway, you got guys that won't normally have a chance, run good. Yeah.

Jason, what you got, man? Best track. We got it. We're already. doing it. You already like Chicago land. I love Chicago land. Yeah, me too. Place called Benny's Chop House downtown. They got the best bacon in the world.

Bacon? What's that? What's that Chicago place that's like, there's like two or three of them around there that you go and you walk up and it's, you know what I'm talking about? There's like two or three of them around there. They got like a... Restaurants? Yes, like a real Italian name place.

Talking about Gino's? No, it's not Gino's. It's longer than that. It's a longer Italian word? Jepetto? I don't know. Like from Pinocchio? Diananettos. I don't know.

Forget it. You know what you call it when you see two pigs kissing? Pam sandwich? Making bacon. Yeah. Pam sandwich. The off-the-wall topic is the classic 90s song Smells Like Teen Spirit played by Nirvana,

25 years old yesterday. What was your favorite song or band 25 years ago? Jason? Is there not a list of this? I don't remember. 25 years ago. Still relevant today, YouTube. Yeah.

I love YouTube. When was 25 years ago? I know. That's what I'm thinking. 1990 Oh Oh 9?

Oh. No, 1988 You got the right stuff You're math Math is hard. What's It had been

Yeah 95-ish 90? I don't know T.J. 95 It's your turn. 91.

It's 96. What was your favorite song? 95. I mean, I was literally It was 95. Yeah. Were you even born yet?

Yeah. This is bad. I mean, he was the same height then as he was now. New kids on the block maybe. They were big back then. Yeah. Yeah.

In sync. Something. Yeah. 25 years ago. I'm going to make a change for once in my life. Michael Jackson is always my favorite. It don't matter if it was 10 years ago, 20 years ago, 30 years ago, 40 years ago. If he was born, he's my guy.

That's who I'm down with. Oh, man. Yeah. You know if the Sparta thing don't work out. I can sing. I can dance better than that thing. He also dances. It's frightening.

I've seen that. I mean, we've went over this a little bit before, but I'd go with like Stone Temple Pilot. Something like that back then was pretty. Hairband music was big. Rex and effects. And effects of that. We've done that before. Check, baby, check.

The biggest songs in 95 were Gangsters Paradise. Living in a gangastic. Boom busting. Michael Jackson, you are not alone. You are not alone. Oh, yeah. See, I know I'm all. Tell me.

Tell me some more. These are like high school dance stuff here. What do we got? Couple skated. I'm ready to grab your butt. Look out. Yeah, yeah. A girl like you, Edwin Collins.

Keep going. All over you live. Ants marching, Dave Matthews. Yeah, I remember that. Back for good. Take that bedtime story. Madonna. I had that single that cassette tape.

Be my lover, LaBouche. Transams with six by nines in the window. We're a big deal. Breakfast at Tiffany. Steve Blue something. That's still pretty popular. Wow. All right.

We're getting ready to roast. and continue rushing him. So, ASDBC, Josh chooses a few questions that we get from Twitter and our Facebook page. So at Jen Olk asked Jason Brownlow, how has officiating changed in the last few years? In the last few years, probably I'm going to say it's been about three or four years ago. Each series had their own officials. Cup had set officials, Spinity had a set of officials, and trucks. A couple years ago, they...

decided they're going to go with a new model and we're all going to be one team, one set of officials. So if you inspect an exfinity car, you'll be inspecting a cup car, trucks, whatever's there that weekend. Also the what also has changed is that we've gotten a lot more technology in officiating. All of our inspections procedure stuff, all on tablets, Microsoft Surface tablets. That way, the series director can look at the tablet and say, okay, you know, there's still five more cars to be inspected. Here's the problems that we're seeing. The pro-trailer system, we used to all be on pit road. There were one official for every car. Now, on pit road, there's one official for every four cars, and then there's the eight that

are sitting out in the pro trailer that are actually running the race. and doing the pit stops. Jason, how did you get into officiating? What were you doing before this? Actually, I was at the local short track in Georgia, Lanier National Speedway. Started actually just selling tickets there and got to start working in the pits and just getting to kind of like it a little bit more. A friend of mine that was working there went up and was a contract official for the

first series at that time. This was, you know, like 14 years ago. Went with him to a couple of races. Got to actually know the couple of the guys there. And persistent. At the time, Joe Groni was the head official there at NASCAR as far as hiring. I forgot about that. Yeah, he's not a furniture.

Roe. And it was probably every other day calling him, hey, you got anything open? Hey, you got anything open? and I think he got tired of it and just went ahead and hired me. Be a whole lot easier to just hire this guy. Did you grow up racing or around cars or? Not really. My dad always watched, we always watched NASCAR on Sundays.

But as far as growing up around it, not really. Actually, my first real race was Richmond about 14 years ago. And within a year I was working for NASCAR. That's big. So, man, people hear that these teams are failing LIS a lot. Break down what LIS stands for and what that means to the average fan because if I'm a chick and I'm on my couch and I hear LIS, I got no idea what it means. Lipstick.

Do you know what it means, Kristen? No. What the hell is it? I'm kidding. Okay. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Do you really know what it means? No.

What does LIS stand for? Laser something, right? Laser something. Now, Jason is going to give us a real answer. Laser inspection station. In theory, what it is, but I'm not going through tech. I'm not a laser. But tell us what that really means, Jason.

Yeah, laser inspection station. So car goes up. They've got plates on each wheel, and they've got plates that go to the frame rail. What are those plates do? Well, what it does is they're lasers that hit those plates, and it measures the well-based tread width, camber, offset. Important things. So when we hear someone...

I know what camera is. So when we hear, when we hear they failed post-race LIS, those. Those are pretty significant measurements. What does Camber do to a tire? It turns it in or out, right? Depending on what track you're at. It still turns out. I got a question.

I'm not a car person. You said all your stuff is on surface tablets. Is that live? Like, are they all connected to a network where they can, like, as soon as you check a car off, it checks it off under, is it a house program or do you guys use, you know, a program someone else? Like one note. It's a house program. One of the guys that actually works for it.

now built of the program. So they can, David Green can get on there at any point and say, oh, Jason, just finish this car, just got to check. Yep. So it's up to date. It's up to date. And if there was a violation, for example, safety, if the seatbelts were out of date, we'd ride it in red.

So like, hoots can roll out of a bed in the motorhome, be like, oh, cars are through tech. Yeah. Is that accurate? Yeah, that's cool. So if I'm a 14-year-old kid and I'm listening. And I'm listening to this show or I'm watching the sport. And I say, man, I want to be a NASCAR official because there's all sorts of jobs here. There's marketing jobs, agencies, jobs with teams, jobs in competition, jobs and business.

Your deal, your side of the deal. What's the best way for somebody to get to be you? NASCAR.com down at the bottom has a job deal. I think they're always kind of looking for people. But I would say before you even do that, go to your local short track. Yeah. and go there and watch what they do. And that's the easiest way to learn.

Right. Because, you know, we get a lot of people that come in that, you know, to come from the local short track, they already know what's going on. Right. And it's a whole lot easier transition into inspecting. Yeah, we will post Jason's number after the show, and you can call them every other day. We'll tweet it out. You guys texting short. You can call them every other day.

Eventually, you'll probably get a job. So I'm, I'm, this is a long time ago, but my phone rang. and it's an old high school friend. And I'm like, how did you get my number? And she proceeds to tell me how she got my number, which was through a really good friend of mine. Squirrel. No Joy Clonts.

So I proceeded to put Joy's number on Twitter and said it was Clint Boyers. I blew his phone up. You're the worst friend ever. Well, the assholes shouldn't be getting out my number, so I gave out his. I had a much bigger platform to blow his number up. Remember that time, Elias number got posted? I know you do. Nah, I don't know what you're talking about.

That was funny. No, that wasn't. Yes, it was. Yeah, not to me. I didn't think it was funny at all. Oh, the good old days. So you travel every weekend. Yes.

And your wife, Christine, she works for Hendrick, right? She was at RCR. She was awesome. He outpunted his coverage on that deal. Yeah. I married up on that one. She's got really good hair, too. He called her every other day and finally she said, yes.

It's about right. So do you get an off weekend? Do you, are you on, on, on? Yeah, we, throughout the year, we get about six races off. That's good. A lot of mine, we're at the first of the year. I got a question for you. When it rains out.

I think you can just ask it. Yeah. When it rains out, does it put a lot of stress on you guys to get, like, both series, like when you got to tech both cars, you know? Rain outs. Suck. Yeah, they suck. Yeah.

More than, yeah. So if they, we put them all through inspection. So let's just say, for example, it's a, I think of a rain out. Pocina. Pocono. Either one. So they go through inspection. Yeah.

Regardless if it's raining or not. Okay. And then we'll put them back in the garage. If it looks, if it gets called, it gets called. The next morning, the only thing they can do is, you know, we'll let them prime the oil, you know, start the motor, change the tape out. They do very minor adjustments because they've already been inspected. impounded and then we put them out and race.

It's always a talk amongst like our group that we have like, okay, if it rains this time, can they just run the cars now? What do they do for inspection? What do we do for that? They can't do this because they can't put officials over here if there's no, if they're already over here. But it's got to be up in the air sometimes. I'd like to schedule a hurricane every year during Kentucky weekend.

Have a hurricane on Friday. Have a hurricane on Saturday. have a hurricane on Sunday until 12 and then stop and then let's run a double header Xfinity and cup and they get the hell out of there. I want to go pick up Sterling Marlin and some of his firecrackers and take out the elevator. At least we know we don't have one. Good Lord. Versus thinking we have one.

There's Elliot Sadler in the house. Elliot Sadler. We're attracting all kind of stuff around here. Oh, and it's the sheriff. He brought the sheriff with him. He brought my substitute spotter. The one that's going to take your job. Look how efficiently he looks.

No, see, the key to hiring a substitute spotter is you always hire one worse than you are. Are you saying the sheriff is a bad spotter? I'm just saying he's not as good as I am. You know, normally I go to Iowa and I stand next to him, but I didn't go this year. You made him mad. I can read lips. He just said M.F. Yeah, I can read lips and that was definitely MFer.

So Elliot won this past weekend, so Elliot's in the house with the sheriff because he every time he wins, he buys lunch for the entire shop. Boom. Barbecue. Halla. Halla. But hey, I have a question. No.

When you have the non-companion races and or truck in a different place, is there a set core group of officials that will always go and do trucks instead of going to the cup and Xfinity? No. No. It just rotates. It just rotates around. It really does. Depending on what's needed at that other event.

And your schedule is set from the beginning, so you know when. Yes. Beginning of the year, we know what days. or what races were off, what races were working throughout the year. That's pretty organized. What about during the week? What's your job during the week? Anything now?

Usually on Tuesdays every once in a while, that's inspection days when the R&D Center. At R&D Center. If you have to go in, go in and usually for safety-wise, we do something like weigh the seats, we'll take the ballast out, weigh the ballast, check the stern wheel, weigh the fire bottles, stuff like that. Random stuff. Random stuff. So when tear down happens, it's the actual team that comes down, comes in, and tears the car down, but it's in front of you guys.

Correct. Yes. So it's just like the tear down at the racetrack used to be. It's just done at R&D Center. Correct. Yeah. And you can go to NASCAR.com and watch it live. Oh, wow.

So you can watch all that. Really? Yeah. I didn't know that. Yeah. And they do it. I mean, they do everything. You know, they'll take the motor out, the winning motor out.

They'll inspect it. They undercar, the rear gear, whatever. whatever they want to look at we'll take everything apart. Yeah, interesting. That's cool. All right, Kristen, are we rolling? Here we go. Prediction? Oh, there's one more question. Yeah. When a veteran driver fills in for another driver.

Such as TJ's scenario. Does the retired driver get to use his old spotter? No, he's retired. He loses them privileges after you retire. Yeah, we've kind of, we've hit on this before, but you, most of the time, everyone's accounted for. you can't just yank somebody off another car and bring them back. You know, a lot of, you know, we're already all accounted for.

And, you know, I would understand if Jeff had somebody that that wasn't already on a car or somebody like that. But Jeff, he basically moved into a full built team. And his former spotter is actually Chase Elliott Spotter, who's not going to up and leave Chase to come help a part-time guy out. Even if he wasn't, you know, if Eddie was sitting on the sidelines all year and Jeff came into the the car. I'm not sure Jeff would you'd want to mess up the team. You know, we have a team that's pretty tight.

You know, you don't want to come there. Just move a bunch of pieces around. But, you know, and Jeff's been great about it. He's been, he's been really fun to work with. I've actually never got to work with him before until now, but he's very impressive how he has asked me questions before races through text and in person that, you know, he is very detailed before the race. Right.

He, like, I'm, he'll, we wonder, lounge and Jeff's literally said there and said, all right, you know, I know what I've been doing, but I want to know what you would do if you were driving the car. I want to know what you would do differently. Right. Like, I'm like, geez, I've never been asked that before. And I'm like, well, I would just back up turning three a lot more than you are because you missed the bottom of that every other lap.

So, you know, and he's very detailed. Like, he thinks about stuff, hey, what do you think about that high grief on restarts? What do you think about this, you know? And he's very, very, very detailed. That's cool. Yeah, and I was very impressed with it. Still your turn, Kristen. Will you put your phone down?

Actually, it was NASCAR texting me to make sure. This is becoming a frequent occurrence where you lose focus in our show. Me? The only one? Josh won't get off of his either. Are y'all texting each other? We need predictions. Predictions.

So the first thing we're predicting is who were the first four drivers out. TJ, I'm sure you've already put a lot of thought on of this. I haven't. You want to go first? You don't you go first? I haven't looked at it. First four drivers out? Chris Bisher, he's out.

Absolutely. Jamie McMurray, he's out. Tony Stewart, he's out. And my fourth one would be Jimmy Johnson. I will say Chris Bisher, I will say McMurray.

I will say Tony Stewart. We have a great on three so far. Did you say Tony? Yeah. But you're not going to call it a Hendrick guy right here, so we know we're going to be different on the fourth one. No, and then I will go with, uh... Let me see here.

One good guy won't make it. One good guy is going to have a bad week. Yeah. And I think it's going to be... He won't say Brad Caslowski either because everybody's... Nah, I'm going to go with a... I think it's going to be a Gibbs guy, man. Ooh.

You know, I want to say Carl. The Carl. Say Carl. He's been the worst Gibbs car. Yeah. Okay, well, who takes home the cup? Oh, we got to pick that now? Yeah, why do I got to pick that now?

Because are you going to pick? Because that's what we do. Everybody's picking. Not Jason. He's not picking. You don't even know who's in the chase? No, I do. Man, I'm going to go first.

You don't go first, T.J.? I got to think about it for a minute. I knew you had to think about it. That's why I said I'd go first. I'm going to say the fastest guy right now at every track we go to is either Truex or Keselowski or Harvick. Harvick. I got Harvick. So she's got Harvick.

I don't disagree with you. Your phone's screwing up something else in here. Can we just pick our top four? I will go, uh... No, because we can keep doing the elimination thing round by round. We can pick top four and then pick our winner at Homestead. But I think, well, this is pre-season, pre-chase starting. I got TrueX.

I think it'll be Truex, Brad, Harvick, and... Ah, man, it's going to be a toss between... It'll either be... We've got like eight more weeks to do that. Hamlin will be called So he's always find a way. Who's your pit?

You know, I got to... I think it's going to be... Man, it's so hard to pick right now. He does his shit every week, Jason. I'll go with... No matter what we're doing, he just sits... He's the most indecisive man I've ever met. I'll pick Danny.

Denny. You don't even like Denny. You didn't ask if I liked him or not. Chicago predicts. Harvick. Harvick True X. Denny, who you got, Josh? Brad Caslowski.

Everybody's accounted for. Best of luck to all. Hey, we need to bet here. No, because, I mean, we need to side. None of us are in the chase. You're not in it. I'm not in it. So let's have a little side bet for breakfast or something.

I mean, y'all owe me like three of them anyway. Whoever wins has to buy. Whoever wins has to buy Chick-fil-A and beer. I'm just kidding. I like the way you're thinking on the second part. Chicago prediction. So here's the deal. I only have to win four races out of the next 10,

and I win whatever we want to call this thing we've been doing all year. TJ, you have to pick first. You have to take less than 60 seconds. Let's go with, I think you should have 10 seconds. I will take. Man, so hard. I'll take, uh, I used him already. Hang on.

Legano. That's strong. He's kind of strong. I got to win. There's 10 left. I got to knock him out now. Yeah, yeah. I like the way you're thinking.

to come back with a rookie into the chase, not a rookie driver. The show, Mr. Kyle Larson. Kyle Larson. Got that, Josh. 42 against the 22. So, Jason, this is the part

where it's called the rant part and it doesn't have to be about NASCAR. What was it last week? Colin Kaepernick. What do you want to rant about anything? It can be about like... Spotters, anything. The fog.

Being deplorable. Yeah, sure. He won't say it. Pence? We're not talking. politics, right? Yeah, we can't about. I love talking politics.

I'm not afraid of. Hillary fainted. If Trump would have fainted, they'd have been like, oh, this guy can't be president. I stopped following when my guy dropped out. Who was that? Bernie. Oh, God. She can't say, I told me.

You guys are ridiculous. Why can you not? What are we not allowed to say again? Damn. Now we can say damn. The F word. Can't say that. I don't think we, Jason, you have a rant?

Is anything you want to get off your chest? Yeah. Your wife, she's not, she's not, she's not cook a good meal the last all night. Oh, she just great mail. She doesn't listen to this show, man. You can blast her right here. No. She's going to listen to it now.

Just because I'm on here. She's going to have a hard time because our bandwidth is limited and we're like going, we're like falling off the earth. We're so big. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, there's got to be some complaint you have about her. No, there's no complaint about her.

See? This is a good man right here. Oh, man. I've been married to her too long. I know. You know who's a good man, Travis Campbell. Okay. She's got a lovely.

lovely Twitter follower that just he asked her to go to his prom. Did you know about that? Yeah, Twitter follower asked her to go to prom. And he made a T-shirt that says, I asked Kristen Mauer to prom and the back says, she said no.

And he wore it to Bristol. Wow. Yeah. And they changed shirts. Sad day. It did not. I would have made the story sound better. I got one more question for you.

If you weren't a NASCAR official. Ask caller. NAS caller. NAS caller. What would you be doing? He said NASCAR. NASCAR.

Mass car. Who's your favorite? I'd be in the political field. Yeah? That's where I started out just during working for the local congressman back home and just kind of got tired of, it got burned out. And one weekend, like I said, went down to local short track and got a job there and the rest of history. That's super interesting.

Thank God you left that corrupt bulls for this. Yeah. Yeah, no kidding. Man, geez. There's always time. You can always run. See, he just opened the door up for a political rant. No, don't do it. But I've been instructed by Mike Davis and Natalie the Speed Sater to not go there. And I would probably fall asleep because I don't know. They care about political stuff.

Josh, you got any rants? You got any good jokes or anything? You got any good jokes? Yeah, but nothing you can say on anything. You can say anything out here. Yeah, you can say anything on here. We just beep out any bad words like shit. What you need to do is. Richard Bostic. You need to get him on.

Oh, Richard Bostic. Yeah. He's got some good jokes. Yeah. Or Henry Benfield. An hour's worth. Yeah, I got a joke, but I can't tell you. I'll tell you when this goes off.

That's my favorite joke. If anybody ever sees me at the track, stop me and I'll tell it to you. It's funnier in hell. Is there a pizza and gynecologist. That's all I'm going to say. Oh, I saw that already. I saw it on Twitter. I don't know.

Yeah. I kind of made it up. So maybe somebody's copied it. I saw actually the. This morning at like 6.45 a.m. That wasn't me. No, but I read it on Twitter. I've been doing this for since like college.

Yeah. I get, the joke that I read was we called an order to pizza and ask the pizza delivery guy to write a joke for us. And they did on the inside of the box. Maybe. I don't know. Maybe we'll finish this joke off the air. Maybe Brett was the pizza delivery guy. I used to do it.

No, it was the Steve Stifler account. Do you run that account? I love that guy, man. I know, man. You would. Oh, man. Until next week. Hey, we got another special guest next week.

Which one? Our teammate. Kevin Hamlin. This weekend. Oh, Kevin. I can't wait for that one. Kevin Hamlin. The only guy.

So Josh just sweeted a picture and I look like I was sitting like a girl. Kevin runs like a girl. He does. And he runs a lot. You sit, what? That's not feminine the way you were sitting. The picture he tweeted out, I looked feminine. I saw it.

I don't think he looked feminine. Oh, thanks. You know, next week we got to ask Kevin. I don't know if he'll hear this or not. Remember the time he rib-shotted Herm and clouding? We're going to bring that up. We've got to rent that up. Yeah.

He literally punched a guy. Bring up with Kevin. I think it was 2007, somewhere around in there. Flying back when he was with Gannasi. Yep. Flying for Ganesi. Yeah, he was driving for Ganesi. Test dummy.

Driving back or flying back from a Daytona test. Yeah. Going back to Charlotte asking what happened on the flight. Okay. 2007, write that down. Somewhere around in there. I don't remember if that's exactly what. We got a bunch of good handling stories.

I need to ride them all down. But before we go, man, thanks for coming on. Yeah, it's a pretty rare occasion that NASCAR lets an official come on a show as cool as ours. Shout out to Mike Ford at IMC. Thank you. Yes. I'm actually, I gained a lot of knowledge myself today because I wasn't 100% sure how all the pro trailer self-worked. I want to spot from the pro trailer because it's air conditioning.

Yeah. Since you come on the roof with us, can you form an alliance and help us get shorts and shade? Can we, like, you got a deal out. You got a deal out. No, the guy who sits in the air conditioner. I'm sure that'll work well. I even ask for shorts just on Fridays and Saturdays and we're going to dress up on Sunday. Can you get a doctor's note for shorts?

Listen, my legs. Swamp ass. I have medically declared swamp ass. I need a daughter's nose. My legs are allergic to shade. Something. I got to have them in the sun, man. I need vitamin E.

Gotta be in the sun. Look how white my legs are. F. Geez. We're out. Yeah. Thanks to One Main and Exalta. Peace.

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