Door Bumper Clear - 330 | Darlington: RFK's Revival, Hub's Demise, and Butterbean Joins

Episode Date: May 13, 2024

Darlington delivers Brad Keselowski’s first win since 2021. His spotter, TJ Majors, is back from Victory Lane and joins Casey Boat, Freddie Kraft, and Brett Griffin to break down the results from The Track Too Tough To Tame. Plus, Brenden “Butterbean” Queen joins to talk about his upcoming Truck Series debut at North Wilkesboro. Silly season is officially underway after Michael McDowell announced his move from Front Row to Spire. We react to FOX’s decision to cancel their daily studio show, NASCAR Race Hub, and preview the All-Star race. Episode Highlights RFK’s Revival Under Brad Keselowski Butterbean’s Waffle House Celebration NASCAR Silly Season Starts Early FOX Cancels NASCAR Race Hub Want more DBC? Check out and subscribe to the new DBC YouTube channel! FanDuel Disclaimer: 21+ and present in NC. First online real money wager only. $10 Deposit req. Bonus issued as non-withdrawable bonus bets that expire 7 days after receipt. Restrictions apply. See full terms at fanduel.com/sportsbook. Gambling problem? Call 877-718-5543 or visit morethanagame.nc.gov. Want more DBC? Check out and subscribe to the new DBC YouTube channel! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

The following is a production of Dirtymoe Media. No good. By one. Don't ever drive, man. It'll come to you. You're a fucking idiot if you think that's right. But that's just because T.J. planned it that way. Ball three, one of the eight outback.

You come in time here. You come and keep up a bottle three. Model three, why? It's hard to get blocked. I mean, seriously. Might be the dumbest thing you've ever said. Door. Bumper.

Clear. So there. Bumper. Pumper. Clear, clear, clear. Hey, everybody. I'm T.J. Majors. Spotter of the race winning six cup car this weekend. I also had a truck with Bailey Curry and Carson Quaple. It's by the time you did something good around here. Yeah. It's been a while.

It's been a long time. Brett Griffin part-time spot this year for Richard Childers Racing. And Darlington is thebomb.com. Where were you? I was at Darlington's a Saturday. I don't know. Nice to see a call. What's up? Freddie Craft Spotter for Bubba Wallace. Kyle Sieg, Ty Dillon this week.

Yes, TJ, it's very nice to see your back in Victory Lane. Yeah. I forgot where it was. Yeah, it's still down there. And he's a crown on. I mean, I'm sure.

Would you guys, you guys definitely stayed out until what, like three, four and more than last night celebrating? Rager. Yeah, like, eight. Total rager.

Yeah. Yeah, no, I think, yeah, that's, we're probably past the, the big owls days and the pool party days, but, you know. Did you, do Freddie and Brett know that? Uh, no. We're never going to be past those days.

I don't think we celebrate top 30s. Yeah. No, I think you celebrate top 36. Yeah. We'll like it. What up, Casey? Hey guys, Casey Boat here. And I believe we have a very, very special guest this week.

Yeah, for sure. Somebody, I've been looking forward to having off for a while. A kid, I really don't know. Actually, it's first time we've met in person probably. but I've been following his career and some, first of all, you can't not follow a guy named Butterbean.

I don't know how. We're going to get into how this nickname came about. But what's up, Brennan, Queen. Welcome to DBC. Hey, man.

Thanks for having me. I've watched y'all for a while. So this is a pretty cool experience to be here. So let's get, I mean, let's get right into it. First of all, where how, I mean, I know,

I'm sure a lot of our fans are familiar with the old boxer butter bean that would just go in and pummel people in those American flag boxers shorts. I'm not going to lie. Before I met you, I kind of thought you were going to look like that.

Well, I get that a lot, so I actually got a nickname from him, but it was because I looked like him as a baby. So I was fat, chubby. So he looked like me, basically. Well, I wasn't going to say that. No beard. No, this is pre-Mullet days. Oh, you weren't born with that? I wasn't born with that.

So, Bullitt was COVID-era. So, yeah, that's kind of how it came. And it's funny because it was really. just a family thing and then as time went on my friends found out my teachers found out and next thing you know that's all i was known as at school and they ended up on a race car and it's been there ever since does anybody call you brenden i mean it's rare it's very like if people say like who's brittie queen they go who and they say butterby like oh i know that guy so that's pretty much how it's been uh it's a good sign you from the south though because everywhere else it's a

lima bean you know in the south it's a butter bean well i've been called a lot of things And, yeah, so you know how that goes. So, you know, the first time, and one of the, he has one of the most recognizable race cars, even before you got with Lee and them. I remember this car. I mean, I don't know how long you've been running, but this, I mean, this feels like it goes back six, seven years now. It has the digitized numbers on. It looks like an old, like an old video game. It's always, it always stood out to me anytime I went to a late model race.

So where did that, first of all, where do you come from? How did you get started in racing? And then what brought that kind of pain scheme about? So I kind of started kind of like the normal ladder when I was. growing up. I started racing go-karts when I was like six and then proceeded to move up. I actually did arena cars in between and then

Oh wow. That's cool. Yeah, which I got a picture of you sent to me today in an arena car. Oh yeah. I got it. Somebody sent it to me to me. Oh, yeah. But I did legend cars and then moved up to late models when I was 15 at the time. That was the age requirement. But did it all from, like in our backyard with my family.

My crew chief was Phil Warren. which he's a big name in the late model world. So he pretty much mentored me a lot until I got to Lee. We didn't have the money. We were racing out of our backyard, but I did a lot with what we had, and I ended up getting a sponsor that was a video game store. So that's how the number scheme came and the Mario and all that.

And it became a very, very noticeable car that I stuck with. And when I went to Lee, when I finally got that opportunity and had the state and family come in and help me. Actually, they let me drive their dirt car. That's how that kind of started. And then proceeded to move over to the asphalt side with me. And we went to Lee, and I feel like that was a great decision for us. And I kind of just took the scheme over there and kept it, you know.

Yeah. And you mentioned Lee. It's Lee Pulliam, who is a late model legend, for sure, could probably still be out there kicking everybody's ass if he wanted to be. What's it like getting a chance to work with the guys? You mentioned Phil Warren, which I think he won, what, three Langley championships? Yeah, we tied the record

three in a row, and then like for me, that was big because like I said, we were in our backyard doing it, and we won a Cars Tour race doing it at Langley, which was really cool because I think the days of doing that out of your backyard and beating those guys is kind of long gone. It's very hard,

but it kind of got me that opportunity to go to Lee Pull him and, man, working with him. Like, Phil was great. Don't get me wrong. He's like a dad to me. I can call him right now and and get advice or whatever but it was just that next part of my step and pull him is just phenomenal because you know I raced against him and now I get to work with him so like I kind of knew the person he was and I knew what he was capable of and then getting to drive his cars we

won the first race together so like you can't make that up yeah was that uh what race was that the 400 that's when we were we were pitted right next to you right uh yeah yes yep okay that was right that's a Florence I'm assuming tough race track Talk about the cars tour right now because I feel like this is, for me anyway, if I'm mentoring a young driver that's wanting to go to the late model ranks, it seems like to me the cars tour is a no brain. The competition level is just the best in the country, it seems like. It's unbelievable. You know, like take Hickory, for instance, I was 0.02 off the pole when I was 8. Wow.

Like you can't make that up anywhere. I'm telling you, if you're two tents off, you're dead last. Yeah. 35 cars. Huffman's been telling me that. he's having a rough year man he must be the one two tits off man I felt so bad

somebody commented on his Facebook about the greenhouse this week and said did the same guy bolt the greenhouse on that bolted the hub on and I was like he's just not having a good year yeah this last week's been yeah he's had a rough week too he had a convertible he did have a

he had a lot of shit that thing's hurt that thing is hurt I feel like position wise like cars tour is what arca was 20 years ago see yeah i was just in your thinking like you know what the car stores reminds me of the hooters pro cup series yeah with the tv package you got bigger yeah we're starting to know these late model guys by name like because we see them on flow every week and you know

and we're starting to recognize guy you normally didn't do that but with the what flow is done for that has been amazing well we've never had an ownership group at a at a grassroots level like we have the cars. I mean, Kevin Harvick, Hall of Famer. Dude, the Hollars, the Hallers, these late mall races. Yeah. Aren't what, I showed up with the Concord in 2002. And, like, it's, I mean, I watched the, the flow, I watched on Flo the Ace Race race, and I thought you were way, like, I don't know, I mean, you must be a nicer

guy than I thought you were. Millington. I thought you. Yeah, let me, let's talk about it. Yeah. So the nice to be, I used to be very, very, very aggressive and I got myself in a lot of trouble. Oh, yeah. And I didn't finish a lot of races. And, well, yeah, I know where you're probably going with this. You got into Carson a little bit. Yeah, that happened. I got a call from Dale.

I know. I was in a group text with him. Oh, my Lord. So, but the Millington deal, he actually dumped me after the race last year at Hickory. So that was strike one. And strike two happened this weekend. And the problem was, is I hit him and the quarter panel was cracked and I pretty much just went right to the fuel cell trying to move him. So I just went in there and just laid the door to him. But the thing they didn't catch was he tried, he about Arabia to fits like three times. Oh, I saw it. The third time he got me.

And I felt like at that point, if I could have got the clean air, I could have won it. But I knew the eight car was like my competition. You very used to saying clean air. I wanted to get back. Yeah, I wanted to go back. So I'm watching the race. I'm watching the race. I'm sorry Chris Rice was the announcer, which God, you could imagine how that went.

but he like eventually they get singleed two restarts in a row he's just running he's running Brendan better bean whatever you want to be called in the defense and

it's butter butter should we just call it butter butter it's butter I've been being a butter butter bean I've been called but he so he squeezes him in the fence like three or four times

pretty bad and then all of a sudden they single out and Chris is like man there's damage on O3 I wonder where that came from and I'm like has he been watching the same race did you notice what it happened

he said he ran to me a wall and did like two last later he goes where'd that now rich go i texted him after the race he's like man you had a good car but i couldn't i was like are you forget about it like two laps later i don't think listen to chris he's the he could take a totally like bad situation oh man these guys are so happy with each other and they should have seen so flow does a vlog with me called the motor bean experience and they got it on tape i get out the car and billington and i like meet face to face. And he, like, looks at me and he's like, I know I was just tight, man.

I ran you right in the fits. And I'm like, I almost caught me off guard because I was ready to just like yell at it. He tells me, I know I ran you to fits. I'm like, well, thanks, appreciate it. Yeah. That's how that deal goes sometimes. So you said the Dale called you after your little dust up with coppoll? Oh, yeah.

We got to go back. Let's just start a lot. No, so Dale and I are fine. Oh, this is a while ago. It's so fun to hear. Oh, yeah. I mean, for the people that remember the race, like, we had pretty much led the whole race, and Dominion gets so hard to, like, if you're pinched down late in the race, the tires are hot,

and it's just so hard to make the bottom work. And it's just kind of one of those things, like, Carson's really good at, like, laying back on the restart and rolling the box, and, like, then he'll be almost ahead of you at the line, which now they've kind of like. TJ did that all day yesterday. Yeah. Oh, man, we won't agree. So, anyways, I don't blame him. I did it when I was in second, too, but he basically had me beat at the line and put me in a bad spot going into one.

And I'm thinking in my head, like, okay, I'm going to go in here and just kind of giving the door because he's done it to me before. And I'm going to get the lead back because it was like, I don't know, what, 10 to go. That was late, yeah. It was like, it was late in the race. Like, this is for the win. And the problem was, is I hit him. I went in the next corner. I started getting looser and looser.

and I couldn't stay off of him. And it makes it look way worse than what it was supposed to be. And I just couldn't get off of him. And then Bobby catches us, McCarty, and I go into one on the last attempt, and I actually entered really low trying to stay off of him, which made me basically missed a corner

and I ran into him even worse. And then that's how we got three wide. I was just trying to make him 08 instead of on the door. That's all I was trying to do. The last thing that was said about, I'm going to talk to that boy. Oh, yeah. He was just a angry day.

So now he had Dale Jr.'s phone number. Well, I had it, but that's not the phone call you want to get at 8 in the morning. So I want to know what happened. Oh, he called you at 8 in the morning, too. That must be his time of other people. He called me at 8 in the morning last week. Probably for a similar reason. He texted me at like 1 in the morning and 10.

That's more Dale Jr. That was a, what the hell, you know? If you get the follow of call. You sounded just like him. He did. Yeah. If you get the follow up call out early. I figured that's how it was when he texted it to me. Yeah. Oh, I'm sure.

Yeah. So I want to know what your reaction was whenever you saw your phone ringing and it was him. Well, oh, it ate in the morning. Oh, yeah. So we were at the hotel and phones ringing. I'm still half asleep. But I'm like, who in the world's call? I see Dale Jr. I'd like act like I wasn't asleep. You got to quit. Hello? You know. What are you doing?

Just get to the show. He's like, yeah, he's like, what are you doing? I'm like, nothing, just getting some breakfast, you know? He said, I've cooled down a lot since last night. I'm like, okay, good. Oh, he was wound up. Thank God. I mean, he basically just told me, like, as an owner of the series, I loved it.

But as I mean, as an owner of the car, I didn't like it. Well, he definitely calmed down. And he said, I don't want you to, I don't want you to change. But just think about how you could do it different next time. I'm like, okay. Oh, man. That wasn't as good as I was hoping. No, no.

He had calmed out a lot. Now, if... Yes, he had. So I texted him on Saturday night when he sent me to text. I said, call me. And he said, I can't right now. Yeah, probably for the best. Okay.

TJ, would you like to, you know, re-adierate what Dale was thinking before you. Yeah, I saw your tweet. He was, uh, oh, I've talked to that boy. Um, yeah, he was, uh, he was adamant that he was going to get a hold of you. And I was like, oh, God. So obviously this week, making your truck series debut, Tricon, what are our expectations going into this week? I'm what have you done to prepare for North Wilkesboro?

Well, you know, kind of with Pulliam becoming a TRD team, that's kind of got me in the door a little bit with Toyota and TPC and being able to work out. And the butter bean has lost some weight. I've had to lay off the chicken tenders. So that's not been fun. But kind of doing whatever I can to make the most of the ice. opportunity because I don't know how many I'll get at this point in my career. So trying to make the most of it. But doing SIM with Tricons been great, doing pit stop practice. And, man, just so ready.

I never thought I would get this opportunity. Like I tell everybody, two years ago, I was working at the Port of Virginia, moving to boxes off the container ships seven days a week and thought I was done racing. Wow. And I'm telling you, like the BRC and the state and family came in. And, I mean, and they turned my life into a 180, and I went back racing more than ever. So I lived it of working seven days a week, not thinking I was going to ever get an opportunity, and I thought the car store would be all of it. Like, when I won Wolksboro last year, like, that was, like, that's all that happened, I was good with it. And I was so content winning late model races, and who knows what the future holds, but I'm going to make the most of it.

We talked about before we got going today. The weather is not on your side this week. There's potential that your first lap is going to be in the race. Do you feel like you've done enough to prepare Sim-wise, eye racing, whatever it is, to drive it off into turn one there at Wilkesboro? I think so. You know, I think my dirt racing side helps me a lot with that. Like I was telling you, because when I go to dirt race, I've got to these places I've never been in two laps,

and it's time to race. You ran a couple weeks ago, yeah, I thought I saw you running. Yeah, I did a natural bridge. So I don't get to do it a lot, and I'm a rookie on there. But just to go make the show at these races is big for me because those guys are, it's like showing up to a cars tour race. And they got their stuff together. Which name are you most excited about racing against? Because I know you've looked at that lineup.

Ooh, in the truck. Like, man, it's so hard because like now we race against the cup guys in the late model. You know, like last year when I won Wilkesboro, there was eight or not I mean like so so I was always a Keselowski fan growing up

just ironically but like but like so I used to race against his father-in-law we had a big rivalry at East Carolina I saw somebody mention that on Twitter

Lewis yeah it is it was big Lewis and I we went at it but um and it was so awkward because like at the time

I was a big Brad fan at the time and And then I'm like, well, he ain't never going to like me because I'm over here beating doors with his father-in-law. So, no, it was cool racing against him and Harvick and obviously Jr. And then Larson, like, I'm good buddies with Cliff Daniels. So being able to race with Larson once last year in the car store was cool. So truck series is kind of weird because I've raced against a lot of those guys in late models, you know, with Corey and Raja and other guys.

guys like that. We kind of all know each other and race together, but I hadn't seen the entry list, so I'm not sure who exactly if any, I'm sure Ross Chastain will be in it, I think. I don't know. I don't know if I have no or not. Yeah, I haven't seen it. So it'd be, it'd be cool just to get my name out there. I mean, honestly, like, if you had told me two years ago that people would know who I was from late mile racing, like, I'd have never believed it, but it's, it's became bigger than I ever would have thought. What's it, what's it going to take for you? to leave Saturday night or Saturday afternoon happy at Wilkesboro?

What's your expectations? How do you leave that racetrack satisfied with the good run? Yeah, I think, you know, you just want to finish first, complete all the laps. That's the main thing, and not send the truck home tore up.

I know how much work goes into it. I spent those days working on my stuff, so I don't want to disrespect their equipment in any way. I'm not that type of person. I'd like to do what I got to do to win the race, but, you know, I'm not going to make a start. stupid move and and and be known for that so finish all the laps and then obviously my goal is if i could

if i leave there with a top 10 or something like that i'm going to be like i won the race obviously we want to win the race but uh if i can limit the mistakes on pit road on my end that's that's going to be the first step that's all new to me so i'd rather give up one spot on pit road than go to the rear absolutely is i think it's going to be the fastest short track in america absolutely for for what what they've got going on. I mean, obviously, it's not high bank, but, like, this place is going to be ripping all week.

Yeah, this is, I don't think it's going to take him long to adjust at all there. I mean, he's, he's won the late model race. Yeah, I think he's going to be okay.

It's like a new track right now, too, though, for sure. You know, and. And we get the late mall race on Wednesday. Yeah, so. There's a lapse you can't buy. I just think you're going to, what you're going to have to learn is these other,

the new competitors that you've never raised against, what their character, how they race, what they're going to do, like, things like that. you're going to have to, you're going to be surprised and not surprised at some of them. Let me tell you, they race like a ass. Oh, look, so that's not, so I went to Darlington and sat on the box with the one guys,

and, like, it's different because you're not out there seeing everything, but, like, just from, obviously I studied and followed the races, and there's some squirrels out there. Oh, there's some squirrels are, right? You want to come back next week and name so? Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'll call back in. and I'll let you know if I made any friends. Reaction theater, I want to hear you. But, man, like, in the world a give and take, there's no give.

There's all take. It's all taking the truck series. This will be easier than I felt bad for Carson because it rained out. Exfinity stuff. And his first lap, I mean, his first lap to Darling toward. N. SVG, some big names. Yeah. Turn one lap one.

Good luck. Send it off down in there. Yeah. But they both did a really good job, I thought. I think that'll be the hardest thing is, like, Cars Tour, it's getting rougher because there's a lot of, I mean, it's all turning into rent a rides. I mean, and that's kind of how the truck series is too, but it's rare to see somebody just get a shot anymore. Like, we all know that.

But Cars Tour, like if I'm racing Carson, it's kind of like our normal group that we race with for wins. Like there is mainly a lot of respect. Yeah, we'll move each other, but like it's hard racing, but it's what you want to see. Yeah, you don't see Torup race. Like look at the Thanksgiving Classic. Yeah, Josh and I, like, we got rougher and rougher, but, like, I thought it was a hell of a race. Oh, that's one. Yeah, that's one that we went to.

Yeah, I saw you up there. That would have, like, we crossed overed for 30 laps. I saw a buddy Kip. You see Kip? Oh, I see Kip all the time. He's always getting chewed out right now. Why? So he's, I think.

Yeah, about time. Yeah. I love Kip. Like, he's awesome. Yeah, he is. But I feel so bad because just a way, we're having a big time. tire situation right now in the car store. What do you make tire situation?

Like you'll bolt on a set, it'd be fast, and all you do is bowl on another set and half a second off. And I've gotten bit by it twice this year. Is that what happened at, uh, what is that, Orange County? Oh, yeah. I was,

I was fastest in practice Friday and Saturday. Tried two different packages every time I went on a track. Did you start on mediums? Top of the board. Yeah. So anyways, we put the qualifying tires on and I couldn't stay on a lead lap. That's crazy. I mean, that's Kip's fault.

Yeah, that's playing Kip. Damn, Kip. The hell are you doing, Kip? So I got in trouble because I'm a Hoosier hero. And they stick a mic in my face right after race. And I'm like, you know, all we do was change tires. I ended up in a meeting. And, you know, Hoosier wants to fix it.

It's not like I didn't, I felt like I didn't bash them. but like because it's not it's not like they want it to happen you know they're yeah it's an issue in a few other series that's right that's right so it's not like hoosers like yeah let me mess these tires up and screw their day right not intentional speaking of uh the thanksgiving classic that was that was a really good race there was i think there was more contact on pit road with crew guys and ripping ripping wires out of that was wild yeah that was insane before but so uh the last question i have for you and we were going to kick you out of here at this point but you you say you got opinion so we're going to let you hang out for little by on

see how you do. Just don't get yourself calls. Yeah, you don't want to go to the Haller this week. Trust me. So I know your tradition of Waffle House after the win, and you probably haven't been in a while like you like to be, but what's our

go-to Waffle House order when you do win this thing? I always go to the All-Star Special. What is that? Well, first I go get a chocolate milk. You got to have the chocolate milk. And then it's a waffle, bacon, eggs, hash browns, and toast. How you get the eggs?

I'm a scrambled, man. man god almighty yeah i'm sorry that you go north brad the the less runny they get yeah well i mean i am virginia so south virginia i mean you're below the basin dixon line i am i am like 12 minutes from the carolina line so i'm close thank god i had a buddy so me two southerners at this table finally uh bunkey which anybody's ever been to the sandy ridge knows bunky he's he's the bartender there just about every damn day and when i first moved down here herm we'd go to the canap

I was going to say you get Herm knows the Sandy Ridge. Y'all, Herm, yeah. So Herm introduces me to Bunky, and he said, this is my buddy Freddie. He's a Yankee. And he said, he said, you from up north? I said, yeah. He said, where about, what, Raleigh? I said, a little further north of Raleigh.

Oh, Raleigh. There's nothing better than Sandy Ridge. Is that the place to change the stool or something there in the last year or two? I thought Herm said something about it. No, no, no. That's the one by his house. It may be the only convenience store in North Carolina. That's a bar.

I took Timmins and then, which we'll get to Timman. later, but I took them guys, I took them guys, and they were like, we pull in, it's a gas station. You pull in, it's a gas station. You walk in and just push this, like, push store, and next thing you know, you're in this cool little bar and hanging out.

But if you ever get a chance to look it up, look up Sandy Ridge and stuff. We took Casey to Big House last week. Yes, I actually will admit, Brett, you are on my good side right now. Thank you for paying for my lunch. You're welcome. I've never known anybody to order a meatball sub,

so that was the first. But we're going to take you to Sandy Ridge. She's pregnant. And after that, I wanted Coldstone. I wanted the Buffalo Wild Wings Chips and Salsa. So you know what? We're just going to roll you. I'm going to follow you all around.

Let's talk to Arlington, TJ. How's your day? My day was wonderful. I mean. So to be more specific, take us through. Yeah. I don't even want to talk about losing the lead.

They're losing the lead and then racing for the lead and losing. What's that role code? Like you are, I mean, which was a phenomenal, marvelous, terrific, outstanding, stupendous race between you and Reddick for about,

I felt like 20, perhaps but it was probably five. The whole race, we were kind of, it was, it ended up being us and Reddick at the end of a run. Reddick would take off and I don't know what he was doing because he would take off like a rocket. And I'm, I would tell Brad, I'm like, yep, he's burning it up. He's three, four tenths faster than you. And I'm sitting there just watching Brad. And Brad, I don't know how he does it, but he knows, I don't, I don't know what he tells himself or how he manages that in the car, but he can run within a tenth, like every lap, just a little bit, a little bit. I don't know where he does it at. But then you look at Reddick and he's up there. I mean, it looks like he's

qualifying every lap. And as soon as he gets to the back of the field, it's six-tenths a lap. And he can't, and them guys aren't going to let him go. And he's used his stuff up. He's used his stuff up so much getting there that we run him down and he's got nothing left really. And we did one time it worked out, we got around and started driving away. And then every the other times it seemed like right when it was getting ready to be our turn, the caution would come out. So, I don't know, racing him for the lead, you know, Brad was, I don't know if Brad was, he was pushing him a little bit, but not really wanting to use his stuff up yet. Like, if he could get to lead, he would, but he knew he could, he knew he could sit there and ride. He had time.

And, um, but, you know, we finally late in the race there when, when Brad got control and we were kind of driving away. And, I mean, I thought we were, I thought we were going to win. And then I look over there, there's a fire spinning down the track. And I'm like, no, okay, the guy hosed us last week is a company. Now he's doing this again. So I'll, and Redick had that first pit stall. And our pit crew honestly had, we had better pit stops all day.

We just don't matter. Yeah, it don't matter because that number one stall, you roll forward six feet or whatever, or how many feet is. Probably. And you're the first one out. As soon as we get to the real speed line, we're three crawling. in front of them. Like, our pit crew was, I don't know if they were the best on pit road already,

but they had to be up there. But just have losing control of the race, man. It's so hard to get it back. But there at the end, you know, man, him and I don't know how they did it. Those two racing side by side was it three, four laps or something. I mean, normally you race for a lap, a corner or two at Darnington. And, man, these two were going at it. And it was one of the better races that I've seen.

And there was, you know, Brad wasn't giving him an inch. Tyler wasn't giving him an inch. And then they get together a little bit out of four. And here comes Busher with this huge runner. I got a question for you. No. So I'm going to take it back a little bit. I gained, man, respect for Brett Kozlowski a couple three years ago.

After he had a great finish, and I don't remember what racetrack we were at, but man, he gets out and he's pouring sweat. And Bob Pockrest or somebody walked up to him. By the way, shout out to Bob. he picked a winner Saturday and Sunday. Yeah, doubled up. Be like Bob. But Brad gets out of the car and somebody asks him a question and he's like, I'm telling

you, man, he looks like he's just ran a marathon. Yeah. And he goes, we had our best race we could possibly have. And we finished third or fourth and we're not good enough to win. And I was like, man, that's a big statement from a guy that's this good of a race car driver. Like you're saying we were perfect today. Every pit stop was great.

every restart was great. I did great, and we can't win yet. And now you can't. And obviously, you know, we were texting with Trey Ryan last night,

you know, people may not realize this. RFK, going back to the beginning of last year, is tied for third in the most wins other than Hendrick and Gibbs since the beginning of last year.

Like, I feel like Brad Keselowski has saved Roush Racing. It's been so long since that six car one. Like, who would have ever thought we'd say that? Yeah. I mean, to me, knowing Brad, like, and he never really talked, but you know it's weighing on them.

Because we were in position to win Talladega. We had a shot at winning Texas. Ten races in the last two years. Kansas, we had a good shot. We're still right there. And, man, something would just always happen. There'd be a yellow. We'd get a bad restart.

You know, something would happen, you know, anything. And I don't know, man. And I know it was weighing on him. but now I'm not going to lie I'm I'm I think this is Brad's got it back in his head I can still I can win again and now he he knows it and he's been back to victory lane you're probably getting ready to you're probably I mean he's getting ready to unleash Brad that you probably haven't seen in a while now like it like I'm meaning this and he's put it all into it man I don't know you know I'm not just saying that because he's one of my best friends like he's put it all into it he's at that shop every same thing. single day. He's working on stuff. He knows that car from top to bottom. He knows what what he wants to work on and he's in there pushing for it. And I don't know, I don't think there's many that are like that, you know, and to have that, just to do that. And like I said, now he knows, now he knows he can win. When you saw Reddick get into Busher, which I have my own opinion of how the whole thing went

down. But when you saw that happen, but when you saw that happen, happen. You're watching a teammate basically open the floodgates for you. Like, how happy were you when that happened? So down the backstretch, I saw Reddit creeping in on him and down the backstretch. I told Brad off a two. I said, Tyler's close enough to take a shot here. He's probably going to go for it because I know Tyler. Yeah. And I know how Tyler drove the start of every run. Tyler doesn't know, Tyler doesn't have any chill. And when Tyler saw his opportunity right there, he went for it. And I told Brad down the back, I said, Tyler's close enough, he's probably going to try to slide him here.

And when I seen, you know when they get to that 20% Mar 30, you know when they're not going to clear him. The guy throttles up and he's still going to be there. When I saw Chris get back in it, he was still going to be there, I'm like, oh boy. And I told Brad, I said, down to back, I said, Tyler's going to take a shot. He's probably going to slide him, get ready to turn down if you calf to.

And they both kept rolling fast enough, but they hit hard. And I was like, I don't know, man. I felt like it was taken from us and then I felt like it was, you know, giving back right there. So, I mean, you can't give up. When Chris got around us and we got back behind Tyler, we were still fast. We were still right there. And I was telling Brad, like, look, man, you don't know what's going to happen here. Just stay with it here.

And, you know, it worked out. You won a truck race at Arlington before. Never a cup race. Never won a cup race there yet. Brad praised how hard it is. And Butterbee, I appreciate this. would race in so many tracks. Some tracks are hard.

And Brad praised how hard of a racetrack it is to race at Darlington. Like, how cool is that? Man, that's, if you can circle three or four tracks on the schedule that you want to win at at some point in your career, Dalenton's on that list for sure. That is, you go around there, you see all the nostalgic stuff there, the race cars they bring there, the crowd, those people love racing. that's just one of the places it's got the tradition there

everything about it is great for for NASCAR there it's just everything man the racetrack it's so tough they run literally six inches off the wall the entire race I mean did Bubba brush it at all? I'm sure yeah well like you see these guys Larson P-7 for you yesterday

yeah solid Larson I mean these guys all bounce off the fence because man it's hard and these are guys that are man they're really good like really, really, really, really good. And to see them position these cars and do what they can do, like them two running side by side for three, four laps, I don't know if I've seen cars race that long. And they're racing for the win.

Well, you said last week that they fixed turn two, and it wasn't as hard as it once was. We obviously saw some wrecks off turn two. It's still tricky. But because of what you said, you were able to stay beside him because in the past, turn two, somebody won or lost off turn two. You weren't able to go through there too wide very, very often.

Yeah. somebody uh somebody was going to make a business decision at some point over there and you know stand on business yeah somebody was going to stand on business and you know sometimes it was the guy in the bottom if you hit him in the door with your right front you wreck sometimes if you if if you clip the guy in the left rear behind the tire or something or he's out there at your door you run him into the fence and uh it's tricky over there but this i mean it's such a great track you have you have a little bit of everything man you have guys guys guys managing their stuff.

Same thing we always saw. If you have to, if you have people that you're going to have, you're going to have some really good racing. If drivers have to manage their tires, if drivers have to drive the racetrack and it's not, you know, it's a tough place to get around. And, you know, just, and I think this car, I think the car fits, you know, these style tracks really well. Like Kansas, another great race.

Like, in these guys, dude, they go through one and two. And they are, you couldn't put the, you couldn't put a phone. bones between them and they are running. Oh, wide open. And I'm fine. They are, and I'm like, that's how good these guys are. You can't, like. Tell me about the tire.

It's a good tire. I get to talk now. All right, just check it. Everything I saw on Twitter was you had to pass in the first five, but you got to talk to butter bean for 35 minutes. Didn't let us talk. Everything I saw on Twitter was five to seven laps, you better get it or you ain't going to get it.

All right, thanks for the answer, Freddie. No, I don't think I agree with that. And I think the T.J. showed that. You know, if the way I think you should, you know, approach it, and I think that's, you know, for most of the drivers, is it's much easier to pass at the end of the run than it is the beginning of the run. Everybody is so fast at the beginning of the run that you're better off just kind of,

it's hard to pass. Oh, yeah. It's hard to pass. Even when you're even later in the run, I mean, you have to have a pretty substantial advantage to easily pass anybody. But, you know, the beginning of the run, everybody's hauling ass. So, you know, you kind of just get in where you fit in, maintain your stuff, hope that the guy in front of you

was burning his shit up longer than worse than you are, so that towards 20, 30 laps into that run. Because we were going to probably run, I think most of the day you were going to run 35, 40 laps, pit, and then maybe run 50 on the backside of it. So you had to manage your stuff still. I don't think there was I mean, if you could get a guy early,

obviously it was beneficial to you because then you could hold them up and arrow block a little bit and then maybe get away from from him later in the run. But, you know, it is, you know, and I want to talk to Butterbean about this because he's run multiple races like this where how hard is it, you know, like Brad was doing, Tyler checks out, he's gone. You know, I know you've run Florence, you know, probably run Myrtle Beach, places that are

really abrasive on tires that you can't go. You know, you see somebody take off and you're like, oh, I'm not going to be able to ever catch that guy again or, you know, I know I can't burn my stuff up here, but just how hard is it in the seat as a mindset to say, I'm just letting that guy go and I know I'll catch him later. I feel like I've been really good at that. A lot of people just can't do it like Jacksonville comes to mind. Like I, last year I rode, I got the pole, I led the first lap, got my bonus point, and then I checked back to like 15th, and you'll see these guys come up to you and try to ride at your pace,

and they just can't do it. After like two laps, they're like, bye. And I'm like, see you in 30, see you in 40. And like literally, I don't even care if I lead the last lap. Like it's to me. Well, I mean, like, except the last lap. You don't have to lead them all, but just the one that counts. And the thing that I like about it is if I go back and watch it,

at the time you don't realize it, but when you watch it back, it's like art, how you just make your way back through the field. And I love the strategy of it. And, like, Darlington, I've never drove there except on eye racing, but, like, I think it's bad. Like, I think there's the races that you have to manage your car, That's what makes a driver. Like anybody can just go out there and hold it.

Thank you. Hold it to the floor. Thank you for saying that. Darlington takes talent. Darlington takes everything, speed, talent. But I will say, like you said Jacksonville, like didn't Landon take off that race and lead? Then he got lapped. Yeah, the heat.

Man, they do it all the time. Like Hampton Heat last year at Langley. I rode. I knew in practice. I could run, I didn't have that raw speed, but like I could run the same lap time for 80, lap straight, same 10th, and after they ran about 20 laps faster than me, they were slower. Yeah. I rode into teens, and then when it got down to 50 to go, I lapped up to fourth place.

So what's hard about Darlington is when our lap times, we fall off like two and a half second, something like that. Like, you're losing, you have to keep some pace, but you also have, you're going to have fall off too. And it's like, like I saw Larson fall in behind Brad one run, and he was trying to copy, he was kind of trying to copy what Brad was doing and run right. there. But yeah, I don't know. You know, some of these older guys got a, like, Martin was working his way up there, too.

I don't know before he got that wreck off of two, he was creeping his way to the front. And Martin, I feel like Martin comes from that school of knowing how to manage the car and do things there too. Martin's really good at Darlington as well. Casey, I know you're ready to move this thing along, but I will tell you as a spotter, there's no better feeling at Darlington than when they say Pitt next time. Because you come off Pitt Road and you're fucking. Superman. You are your Superman.

It's like, yeah. We had yesterday, we, twice, we did the, like, run long strategy. Yeah. Let me tell you something. That sucks. That's the worst. But actually, it actually, it actually was pretty good. I mean, it was going to work.

If we had a little more pace on our car, we pit from seventh, and our car wasn't great. So on top of strategy, your car has to be good to make strategies work. And we pit from seventh in the first stage. And we drove back to 10th. If our car was better, we would have drove back to probably third or fourth, I think. or, you know, probably easily fifth and probably gaining from there because Blaney, Blaney was quite a bit behind us and he had a pretty good car. He was able to catch us, pass us, and then drive by two or three more guys.

So, you know, obviously pace plays a big factor. But I enjoy that because then what happens is a lot of times somebody's pits and you see everybody come. So, like, while it sucks for those, because you've got to stay out. Like what happens is some people react to this too quickly. Like, if you get beat to pit road by somebody you're racing, you can't just come the next lap because that guy's going to jump you and now you don't have enough tire. advantage. So what you have to do is, all right, he jumped me. Now I've got to run at least five,

maybe seven, ten, whatever it is, to now when I know he's going to be way the hell out in front of me, but now I'm going to have an advantage when I catch him, you know, later in the run. So it's a toss up, but I actually enjoyed yesterday because I wish we had a little more pace, but running long sucked for those seven or eight laps, whatever, we ran long because we're just getting eaten alive. Come out, though. But then you come out. Now everybody else is on old stuff compared to you and you're a hero. So, but I mean, what do you think your biggest challenge going to because we're talking about pit cycles and all the stuff. Like, you guys don't do this in the cars tour.

So what are you most concerned about this weekend in North Wilkesboro? On the pitting side? Yeah. I mean, like, obviously not getting a speeding penalty on my end and then not hitting somebody in and out of my box would probably be the first thing. My first pit stop practice, I thought I was going to, I came in the box and they're like, all right, that was great. Just do it five times faster.

And I'm like, I thought I was going to hit the guy. It's like, trust me. He's going to get out in the way. I'm like, okay, 10-4. I come in there next time, let her eat. So it's like you're rolling down Main Street, Moresville, running 55 miles an hour, and there's people crossing the road.

Yeah, you get one of them crosswalks. Yeah, so I think I'm a lot more, I went to my second pit practice, like, much better. Yeah. Like, you had a lot more confidence, you know, getting in the box, and I'm like, well, I just figured I just go for it. Like, if I'm going to mess up, mess up here. Yeah.

Yeah. We got time to fix that before the race. Like, we'll bet something to practice. Well, shout out to a few other drivers who had really solid races, especially SHR. Both Barry and Briscoe's top five finishes. I mean, that's pretty impressive. I know Justin Hayley did pretty well. So really.

Justin Haley did not do pretty well. Hey, dude. Ty Gibbs' best career finish. Obviously, Josh Barry, like you said, big finish. Justin Haley, ninth, dude, right? And was not, this is not a luck ninth. Like, he was fast. He had a race.

He made his very similar call to the 17 that gained him some track position. But he was, I actually took a picture. I was going to, I forgot to send it to the, you know, me and Justin and Brett have a group text. And I meant to send it. I took a picture of lap 20 on our timing and scoring. And Justin was like the second fastest car at lap 20. Wow. And I was like, and obviously split groups or whatnot.

But, um, and there's 10 guys at that lap. And Justin was like the second or third fastest guy at lap 20. And I was like, damn, he's got good pace. I think, I think when I spotted for Justin, the year we did, first, year I did full time with him. I think we finished third there. I think it's a great race track for him. And look, man, we've given Rick Ware a lot of credit on here for a rebrand. A top 10 of Darlington? That's a big deal. Straight up. Their best finish ever outside of a super speedway race. And like you said, straight up. That's a big deal. Yeah, he was fast. Like, I look back there and I'm

like, that's 51? Yeah, I mean, that's impressive. Justin's a good dude and I'm excited for him. I'll tell you. I'll tell you who else had a really good run yesterday, and unfortunately for him, didn't get a lot of help on pit road, was Todd Gilden. Todd Gilden had a lot of speed yesterday, and it seemed like he would be running in front of us, pit and come out five spots behind us, and then it just seemed like he continued to lose track position. I don't know if they were having issues with the box, pit stops, whatever it was, but he had a lot of speed yesterday, especially the end of the first stage, and he had a really good run, and I don't even know where he ended up. Hopefully it was well. But, yeah, he was not.

another one that was up there yesterday. And like you said, the SHR cars were fast. Barry was really good. Yeah, Josh, he looked like Harvick. He got just a few spots, you know, a few spots of run. He was just methodically, if that was the longer race there, he's probably, we have a couple green flag runs at the end, like we would at the longer race. Like, he's probably going to, he'd have been in contention up there. What do you think of the throwback schemes? Who was your favorite? Oh, I ain't a question. Had to be the five. I ain't no question. Oh, without a job.

God, man, that car was so fun to drive on NASCAR heat back in the day. Dude, I'd tell you. Dude, Terry Labani and the fire suit. Yeah, come out on you. Yeah, that's pretty cool. I'll tell you else that was really cool about, I don't know, I don't know if they just did this because of, and I think they're doing it some other places, but the NASCAR alumni program that they're putting together now. I saw Rick Mass was there.

I seen Skinner was there. Yeah, I saw there. Park. I seen, I had lunch at Park last week. He said he was going to be probably coming down there. There's a lot of these guys where I don't know what the benefit package is for this NASCAR alumni program, but I know they're getting hard cards,

and it's just, it's nice to see we've complained about it on here before, like some of these guys go away and you never see them again. But I'm telling you, the problem is, and I mean, I'm saying this on my level, you get to the racetrack, and you don't know where to go.

When you guys show up right now, y'all know you're going to your hauler. You know where you're going to eat lunch. When you get there, as an alumni person, you don't have a home. Like, you're homeless. Yeah. You don't have a hauler.

I was homeless. in the rain. I hung out with my crew chief from last year's at Spire now. So I was in the Spire trailer and that's where I posted up. You know what I'm saying? Like you literally get there and you're like, man, this is awesome. I couldn't even find credentials. I don't, I don't where to go. So it's really cool. And NASCAR's doing a lot of cool hospitality stuff. Last year they had a really cool mobile marketing piece in the midway. But like they should feel at home somewhere and you don't know where to go. the midway by the way.

I don't know. Martin went to the racetrack last year and didn't even go to Rouse's hauler. Yeah. Like that's how weird it is. So I love this.

The midway was by the way it was rolling. It was like it was pretty cool. They had a lot of, a lot of displays out there. I will say this about the truck race is I gave up with eight to go. I thought it was over.

And I thought it was literally a done deal. And I leave and then I get to the next stop. I was in Columbia. And I see Ross Chastain won. Like, what brought the cost now? What brought the loss? last call you now first of all the race was over Corey Hyme was going to kick everybody

right up until right up until Dean Thompson just wrecked the f***ed everybody so that's why yeah Monday meeting I'm sure that meeting the guys asked me you want to come to the meeting Monday I said uh I might want to come to this one

I'm like I don't know if I want to be there FaceTime me I want to listen you know I don't know like the thing is the thing the funny thing is those trucks are hauled ass right I think Tricon and Bill McAnley have the class of the field which neither one of them were in position to win. But, you know, even Dean, like, he's been fast. You know, like, and he's just got to harness it.

Like, he's got, like, you can't make that mistake there. Same as all we always see. Like, you talked about how tricky turn two was. He finally gets, he started, he had a fast truck in practice, qualified like shit, gets up there. And, you know, he's long run speed. He's got a fast truck. So as guys fall off, he's picking him off one after another, one after another. So I think he got to the top 10.

He was probably, I think, seventh on that restart. Yeah, he was. And Corey's another one who wasn't having great pit stops. He'd come in with the lead, come out, fifth, six, whatever. So however they chose, they end up next to each other. And Dean just tries too hard off of two and chases it up into him and causes a massive wreck, wipes out. I don't know, half the top ten, it seemed like. So it's unfortunate.

I don't, you know, I've seen him kind of get a little snippy with somebody that asked, you know, asks my question. And it's like, hey, man, you f*** up. Like own it. Like Reddick do. You know, don't be sniffing. You know, oh, it's hard. What do you think? Reddick had no choice but to own that because if he didn't, he was going to get pulled.

But I mean, this is the same thing. This is the same thing. Like he, this is, you wrecked half the field right there. You need to own that. You need to, you know, I heard him, I heard one back listen to his audio and he's trying to blame it on Corey was on my door. Corey was nowhere near his door. So it's like it's, it's just, you know, you f***ed up, own it and move on. But you can't.

I saw him. I don't know who. I can't remember the video I saw, but he was like, you know, kind of trying to bite the guy's head off, we're asking legit questions. And you're like, well, sorry, bud. you messed up. You better own it and apologize and figure it out for the next one. But he's got speed.

So I want to see him run well, but you just can't make a mistake like that. Last thing. I'll wrap this segment since Casey's over there playing on MySpace. I was about to bring up a new topic that. Race up, 15 years. A staple. I was bringing up the tweet. Thank you.

Okay. You go ahead then. Nope. I thought you were playing on your phone. Brett's world. We're living in it. Here we go. You're not on our good list anymore.

I'm glad you finally realize that. Just might have to pay for a few more lunches. Anytime. Meatballs, home meat. So, race up, 15 years in the sport. Obviously, NASCAR losing a show on cable during the week. I think this is a big deal. I agree.

Do you think it's a big deal that it's going away mid-season? Yes. It seems so strange to me that the timing of it. You know what I mean? Like, I can see, and it's not even, When does there, is it running concurrent with their Cups series? It seems like they're basically stopping it when they're done with the Cups schedule. So, I mean, I thought it seemed to stop them before that, which I thought he was even weirder.

But yeah, I don't, you know, you hear different things. Fox spends more money as a TV partner than any TV partner in NASCAR history. They're covering the Cups, the Cubs schedule half a season, Exfinity Schedule half a season, truck schedule all year, and Race Hub. Arca. And the amount of money that Fox has poured into the sport is unreal. And I guess I have a lot of struggles with this. My biggest problem from a marketing perspective is this platform was utilized by teams and sponsors to do a lot of cool unveils and a lot of announcements and whatnot. It gave personalities like Trevor Blaine, Drew Bligginsdurfer, etc.

Does Trevor Blaine rely to Bay? Trevor Blaine. I spotted for Trevor Blaine. Yeah. But like when I look at this thing, I struggle because NBC did not sign up Dale Jr. to continue as a broadcaster. That's a budget cut. I don't care how y'all see it, it's a budget cut. When I look at Fox, man, this is a budget cut.

You know, look at Sirius, obviously Claire B., Chocolate Myers, a lot of shows went away. That's a budget cut. So I look at NASCAR and I see the, you know, play with CW, right? Where they're going to be on CW next year and Ben Kennedy, I think is who said, or somebody said a press release, that we're going to do our own version of a daily show. Well, where is that going to live? How are you going to do it better than Fox was doing it? And how are you going to get more eyeballs on it than what Fox was doing? So this is a big media transition, if you will.

of our weekly content. So I hope it works out great. You know, I just, man, I hate, I'm not a guy for change, right? You hate change. I am. I'm an old-fashioned, and I hate change. And then when something comes back, bigger and better, you still hate it. I still hate it, because I like the way it was.

I miss Speed Channel. Same, man, me too. Or the Speed stage? No, no, you're good. The Speed stage at track. I'm like a Rick Flair chopper when I get happy. I miss those days. I was, I mean, that was my job.

You know, get off the bus on Friday and the speed song would come on and Budweiser qualified. So, man, you know, like you remember what was a Friday night show they did on speed from seven to eight every Friday? Couldn't tell you. There was so many. Was it wind tunnel? You're talking about with, uh, no. That was a good one. It was a trackside live.

I don't know what they called it on Friday night. No, Sunday morning it was trackside live. But like the Friday night show was Steve Burns, Jeff Hammond, Elliot Sadler. Yeah. Dude, that show was the bomb. And when it went away, I cried. It was like college game day. It was awesome.

And the same deal on Sunday morning, man. You know, you know, yeah, Kenny Wallace. You had stuff all day on TV, like going on to the thing. So what the f***ing happened? Like yesterday they don't even interview Josh Berry who finishes, you know, career high best and then they break away to some bowling replay. Like, man. I miss Victory Lane, too.

But I missed Benny Parsons on Monday, you know, Monday night. I thought they were rolling into a post-race show sometimes or was that later in a year. I think NBC. Yeah, they rolled into like. a post-race show? I agree. Listen, as a fan, do away with all the pre-race bullshit.

All more post-race. If you've got an hour, if you got an hour on either side, I want all the post-race. Same. I want all the driver. I want to hear you. All the driver is going to say the same

before the race starts. Yeah, we just hope to have a good run. We'll clean day. Learn. Oh, all right. There's got 10 guys saying the same thing. Now, after you put post-race, it's like, that's some bit running to me.

I mean, you could do a 30-minute pre-race show leading up to it. You could do a 30-minute Chris Busher interview after the race yesterday. And I definitely think like a 30 minute to an hour, you know, afterwards. Like that's what happens with big football games and stuff. You talk about things that happen in there. And that's when you get the interviews and stuff like that.

And that's what I want to see. Same. Well, before you had to break, next Thursday is J.R.M. Fanday. And your favorite Dirty Moe podcast, Doorbubber Clear, will be live on stage. 11.15 a.m. we'll preview all the action for Charlotte Mother Speedway, plus tons more. Stay tuned for more details.

Just check out Dirtymo Media's social channels. Also, you can send it for our newsletter at DirtyMonemedia.com. And so we will see y'all May 2030. Do you see this? No, no, no, no. Okay. It's not a new NASCAR. We might get called to Formula One haul, but we're not to NASCAR Hall.

Oh, yeah. Formula One got our race in Chicago. What? Well, it is... Signed. Allegedly. The contract to bring Formula One to Chicago has been signed. Formula One has not announced it yet.

For the first time ever, last week, F1 beat NASCAR. Three million viewers. Yeah, I mean, obviously, network versus cable. It shows what Versaupin does when he wins everywhere. He lost. He lost. I know, meaning like the ratings go up. The ratings probably went up too because of Lando.

Like, the ratings went up because we had a rain delay. Yeah. And it was. network versus cable, which is always a big news. So on this note, obviously NASCAR had Chicago first. What does it mean for, you know, Formula One now? This says, according to this article, which is the fastest pit stop, they have, I don't know, a couple hundred thousand followers.

So I'm assuming they're somewhat reputable. The race would be 2026, which I think our contract was a three-year deal, which would have been end in 25. And the mayor didn't cancel it. So, yeah. So, but I'm saying that three-year deal would end in 25, I think. So I don't know how they overlap. Chicago's doing a big, you know,

they're trying to build a big football stadium down there, I think, on the water. They were going to move it and now they're not going to move it. Dude, soldier field. The only problem I have is there was absolutely no parking. None. There is no parking. You have to go by a boat. There's the same reason we don't get rental cars down there.

There's nowhere to park. Good Lord. I mean, but even if you can park over where the racetrack is, that's not near where the stadium's going to be. No, yeah, no. What about tailgating? I don't know what the plan is. Let's take a break.

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Spot on. Yeah, spot on. It was super fun yesterday to write her out. I'm Aaron. I am spot off. Damn. Where do you come from? First topic. Ryan Blaney is quite upset with William Byron following their contact in the race at Darlington yesterday. Butterbean, spot on, spot off. I mean, I don't know how you would say it because technically Byron made it three wide, right?

So, I mean, I think Byron put them in that position. So I don't know what that does. So he should not have put them three wide. Should Blaney be mad at Byron? At over Truex, I think. Yeah. That's my, I mean, the guy in the middle probably loses the nose probably when all that happens. The guy in the middle five years ago would have lifted.

That's, but now he probably can't. T.J., what are you lifted? Oh, yeah, you'd have been sideways. So y'all say Martin didn't do anything wrong right here. Martin didn't do anything wrong. Martin would have lifted five years ago. Yeah, but he's not driving the same car. Yeah, this is a different car.

This car is not. So everybody just rolls through their wide-ass open and you hope you don't rent. you hope the other guy don't move up. You hope the guy that put you three wide doesn't run you into the guy on the outside. You hope the guy in the inside doesn't move up to the guy in the middle and he moves up into the other guy because that's what happened. I saw the replay. I didn't see it live. I saw the replay of it. So I was trying to go back through it. But I don't know. It's a tough call there because who are you mad at if you're the driver? Both of them.

I'm mad at all of them. Mad at everybody. I think it just, Brian, Blaney's probably having a frustrating scene. season so it probably doesn't take much to send him over. It never takes much to send him off anyway. I'm sure him and Byron aren't the best of friends right now anyway. Freddy, spot on, spot off. I was spot on for being mad at Byron.

I think it's William, William takes him three wide. It's at that point, William's job to give the guys on the outside enough room. If you're going to put this guys in this position, you have to leave them room to race. you know, and I know he was trying to get clear of Martin, and could Martin have lifted? Absolutely. But if Martin had lifted, guess what he's not going to do? Pass the 12 or the 24, the rest of that run.

Just, that's a product of this car. And you can't give up opportunities on restarts. We saw it a couple weeks ago with Tyler and Bubba and Zane, and you have to take every opportunity you got. And I don't fault William for making, you know, the lane opens up for him. He's got to go for it. He can't just ride back there because then somebody's probably going to pass him on the top.

So it's just, you know, it's, it's kind of the gentleman's agreement of if, listen, if you're going to take us three wide down there, you're going to have to give us a chance to get off the corner. And we've already talked about how tight turn two is. You know, he just never got clear and then moved up. And when you move up and there's two guys outside of you, the two guys are going to wreck. And again, once again, I heard Blaney even say it, you know, like the guy that causes the wreck and wrecks two cars, two really good cars comes out of the deal, Scott Free. And probably, I don't even know where he ended up finishing it. But he comes out of that deal on the top five still. So I think it's, I think it's on William.

If you're going to put yourselves in that position, if you're going to be the one to put everybody in that position, you've got to be the one to also have consideration for the guys outside of you. And he's lucky he didn't get hooked in the fence at the same time. I think the gentleman's agreement is dead. Oh, it has to be. It's dead. Like, that's not even talk about racing etiquette on here anymore in the Cup series because it's gone.

Did that warrant a caution? Probably, yeah, probably. I think so just because I don't know that was debris, but I mean their shit was wrecked. So I'm assuming there's a great out of backstretch. Plenty hard. I think William was being aggressive. I think William certainly slid up.

I think Martin, if he had it to do it over again, he would have lifted and let William have that lane because whether you like it or not, William had position. William also has three wind stickers on the side of his car. His give a f***er probably pretty low. And that's what makes it great racing. See, I think if anybody,

I'm mad at William because he's the one that like Freddie says. William's the nicest guy. I'm not the... I mean, I don't blame for going on. You're all mad at him. I'm not mad at him. It didn't affect me.

Gain me three spots. He's the one that put... You should be happy. I mean, we were in front of it, so I don't care. He created the scenario. I can tell you, turn two is at least two wide. I can tell you what it's not. And it's not, you can't go three wide off of turn two.

And he was in the position. Martin thought you could. No, William must have thought you could because he doesn't want to enter down there and he was going to stay down there. I mean, if you don't clear the guy, where do you go? Into him. Exactly. Exactly. So if you drive into a spot and he went in there hoping to clear and when he doesn't clear, at that point, you kind of got to concede, in my opinion.

Or you're... I agree with tricks probably now. Like if he didn't know and that's what's going to happen, he probably would have lifted the race later on. But at the time, like, I'm not lifted. if I'm in that position. Go to Care Center. If you put your internet down, you're done. Yeah.

No, it's a tough goal, really. I mean, because who knew how it was going to turn out? I just don't think, I mean, it's exciting. You got a crew chief in your ear. You got a spotter in your ear, and they're all telling you, hey, man, you got to get it on this restart. If you don't get it on this restart, you ain't going to get it. You ain't going to pass a little.

You ain't going to pass a man. You got to go. Yeah, I mean, you do have that. But I think that's a little. of character for William to, it's not out of character to make them move, but it's out of character for him to move up and them not figure out the exit of the corner. You know, you saw in William's interview, it was almost, you know, sometimes you know, like, you know, part of our job is to know the tendencies that the guy is around me. I agree. And you know, like, if you got Ross Chastain

behind you in a mile and a half, you're like, he's going to try to take you three wide and a one. That's just, that's just what he's going to do, you know. Or there's guys out there. William almost seemed surprised in his interview that that was even possible. He's like, man, He's like, I really, he's like all of a sudden, the lane opened up and I just, you know, shot it in there. Like I said, if he doesn't, we talked about it on here last week. If you just follow a guy in the corner, you're going to lose a nose. You're going to, especially if you're on the bottom, we were giving up a row yesterday to take the top, you know, because the top was beneficial off of two. You get a much better run down the back straightaway.

And we would break even at Lee. You know, we would give up basically two spots to break even. And, you know, I think William just went to one and that lane opened up and he's like, oh, shit. Look, I can go through here. you know now thinking you know you start off enough I'm going to get clear and like you said I mean he definitely had position I mean he was probably Martin was probably at his rear wheel but maybe behind his rear wheel but he's still there you know and you can't just move up if he's still there I'm sure Brandon was telling him three wide you know I'm sure he knows but you know at that point

you just got a bail most of the time most time when they get to that spot the guy gets in the wake and he starts losing the nose that's the spot where you start losing it but the problem is Blaney's still out there yeah And that's where it got tricky. Larson actually tried to say move on us the next restart, and Brad wasn't going to lift through the middle either. I mean, you're in the second best position to come off that corner. The bottom ain't where you want to be.

And you see it, I mean, talking about it too, like your point. Three wide is absolutely can't happen. Two wide was, there was points yesterday where your guys are trying to make pass on the bottom and they're throttling up in the center and they're not going to make the exit. And you got the option, you know, you have the choice right there is,

am I just going to run this guy in the fence or do I have to lift? And there was multiple times where guys just you had to lift and let that guy go back around and the outside to keep you guys from wrecking. And I think William just took a shot and it didn't work out. So Butterbean, there have been times in my career at Darlington where they're coming off to you're keyed up and you literally, your butt draws up. Like, does your butt ever draw up in the seat? Because there's a spot or my butt's drawn up a few times.

Spot on, spot off. Spot on. There's been moments of that, you know, blowing or cutting a left rear going to the quarter, did that the other week. So there's moments, but there is moments you come out to a quarter and you go, I don't know if we're going to make it. You know, and then what do you like, what do you like so, you know, and probably maybe the turkey, you know, the race of Kenley is a good example.

I mean, is there ever points in that run where, I mean, you guys are back and forth, you know, side by side, three wide at times. Is there ever a point where you're just like, I'm sending it and I hope we don't all wreck right here? I mean, you do. Like, it's such a hard, it's a finesse feel. Like you know who you're racing if they can save these kind of hits, but sometimes the hit gets harder or in a bad spot. And like one time I went and hit Barry and I bottomed out as I hit him, so it made it look even worse. And you're just hoping that when he gives it back to you, you don't catch you in the wheel or something in the wrong spot.

And something stupid happens. So it's, I don't know. You don't ever go in there going, oh, I'm going to run this guy. And then we're going to come up the corner and run right in a wall or something. but it, but shit happens. Speaking of aggressive moves, Casey. Yes, perfect segue. Spot on, spot off.

Tyler Reddick's slide attempt on Chris Buzher was too aggressive with 10 laps to go. Oh, Brett. Y'all ain't gonna like my answer. I have a feeling. Chris Bisher was already in a fence when Tyler hit him. He was already wrecked.

Tyler 100% screwed up. I will say this. Also, they weren't going to hit if Chris doesn't have defense. No, they were going to hit because Tyler's an idiot. Okay, then what you just said is completely irrelevant. Tyler Eddick was sitting in the same seat, Butterbean was in when I asked him to question, how many races have you give away?

Right? Yeah. He gave away another one yesterday. If he just stayed off of him right there, he was going to win the race. To your benefit, I'm glad he didn't because I like you, T.J. Brother, you believe it or not, and I'm glad you won. But if Tyler would have just gotten the fuck down for a hot second,

it. Bisher was in the fence, and he went up there and smoked him anyway. But do you think that, I mean, there were drivers in the fence pretty much all day, and they were fine. It scrubs your speed. Chris was driving off. He was going for a slide job. He didn't make it, and I will say this. I don't know Chris Bisher.

I've never had a conversation with Chris Buster. I don't have his phone number. I admire the fact that he's an Xfinity Series champion. I admire the fact that he's won four or five cup races. This guy, I've never seen him pisses. off. Holy pissed off. He reminded me of Austin Hill. Holy f*** pissed off.

Like, he grabbed him. Do you think that that was the right move for before talking to Tyler going up and grabbing him by the way? I would have. What? You talked to him first. No, you know.

He just, okay. But you, listen, you can, he can apologize while you're trying to punch him in the face. That's all there is. Wow. Now you want Tyler to get punched. No, I don't.

I don't. Busher, like, was like in shock almost. Like, I didn't know what to say. Yes, agreed. That's what happened would be in Millington. When he took the blame, I'm like, it's like you walk up somebody like, Freddy, you're a kid. You go, yes, I am.

That happens all the time, actually. But, yeah, I mean, listen, I'm going to be a homer because I'm 100% that Tyler Redick fan. He's a good friend of mine. He definitely royally f***ed up in the situation, but he owned it. And I think that's the biggest thing. It's just one of the, you know, we give certain guys crap on here because they make mistakes like that regularly almost,

or they're over-aggressive. And this is not the way Tyler Redick races, in my opinion. I think that it comes back a lot to, like, we were just talking about with this, you know, the rest restart, the car, you know. And, you know, there's, in years past and cars passed, I thought Tyler was the fastest car at the end of the race. You know, you guys were about even. Tyler got ahead of you.

I thought Tyler was better than the 17 on a longer run. and I was actually having a conversation. Bernard Powell texted me this last night because he's, you know, he's always asking questions, wanting to know. He's like, man, was that Tyler's fault? I said, yes, thousand percent Tyler's fault. He didn't want it to be Tyler's fault. He didn't want him to be Tyler's fault.

He didn't want him. He didn't want him to be wrong. He did not want that to be Tyler Redder's fault. So I was like, it's a thousand percent Tyler's fault. I said, by no means that he'd do it on purpose. I said, but what happens is now, you know, the older cars, you know, if you're better than a guy, especially a place like Darlington, you know you're going to get them.

You know, you're like, I'm, all right, I'm running this guy down. I just need to pick my spot, set him up, I'm going to get him. With this car, we talked about it on here a couple weeks ago, you know, the, the, the drivers talked about how you can play defense with this car. And Chris is very good at it also. He's got a great spot on Herm that knows how to play defense. And what happens is if you're able to get any kind of run on a guy, you might start to feel like this is my only shot.

I might not get back to this position. You know, we talked about how hard it is to just even affect their arrow balance. with his car. You know, and if you don't, if you get, he gets that big run off of two and he's there, he, what happens is he goes into three and he's just trying to, he's going to overdrive the entry to three. Chris sees that. Chris is now going to jump into throttle, trying, you know, to play defense on that.

So that's why Chris gets in the fence. And Tyler doesn't get clear. But, you know, probably I would say, I don't know, what do you think, TJ, the two third, the one third mark to the center, Tyler realizes this ain't going to work. You know what I mean? And it's now it's, now it's, when you hear still there, still there. Now it's panic. And he probably jumps out of the throttle.

The thing snaps sideways. He overcorrects it, stuffs both of them in the fence and cuts their tires, which, you know, I mean, like you said, Chris was in the fence. He was going to be fine. But once Tyler stuffs them in the fences when they ruins both of their days.

And it's unfortunate because, like I said, I love Tyler and it's not malicious. And I felt so bad for him listening after the race where he's just like, I'm sorry. You know, it's genuine. But Chris has every right to be pissed because there's a huge difference in locked in that chase versus only plus 17 of the goods today.

There are just so many drivers in a sport that it was easy to stay mad at and be mad at. I just feel like Tyler's one of those guys that, like, Chris Bush will probably woke up this morning and sent Tyler a message and was like, I'm sorry, I touched you. I bet he did not. Okay. I bet that probably didn't have that. But yeah, Freddie, Freddie had it right. I mean, it just didn't work. I mean went for it and it didn't work.

But what was wrong with second at that point? You know what I mean? Were you going to be happy run a second? Better than... He's better than... I also think that what plays into it, a lot of it is Tyler dominated the race. You know what I mean?

Like, he was the best car you talked about, you know, taking off early in the run, but he led, I don't know how many laps you led. I'm sure it was about half the race. It seemed like anyway. And I think that plays... You know, if it's us, you know, if we're running seventh or eighth all day

and we somehow cycled a second on a restart, Obviously, we want to win. And I'm sure, you know, if we get in that position, we might take that risk. But it's different. Like, I feel like the mindset of a driver in Butterbain, you could talk to this. Like, if you're dominating the race and lose the lead. Yeah, lose a lead on a restart. You're not, you're going to do anything you can to get it back as opposed to like,

maybe you've cycled up to second. You're like, oh, I'm having a good run. I'm just going to stay here. Yeah, it's a lot harder when you've, you know, dominated. It makes it a lot harder to lose it right at the end, especially when you probably still have the faster car. but I mean I've learned from Dominion obviously I would I would do a million things different to try to win the race a different way but

in the moment man it's just hard you don't you don't like I mean I'm spot on for him being too aggressive there because like he and I'm more spot on that he owned it because it could have been something to drive it in there and then well you know whatever got loose yeah so racing deal yeah that's right you know I mean, I don't blame him for trying to win the race, but it definitely was very aggressive.

Last week, Michael McDowell announced that he'll be leaving front row motorsports and joining Spire at the end of the season. Spot on, spot off, Brett. Oh, man, this is big news. You know, this guy's leaving a newly formed Tier 1 OEM Ford camp for Spire Motorsports. All I'll really say about this deal is there are provisions in driver's contracts that say when and who they can talk to, right? So obviously Michael was in a position where he could talk and negotiate and exit his current team. That's not very common. I think if front row, you know, had that provision or did not have that provision in there, they will in the future.

Because this is not the earliest silly season has ever started. right Kurt Bush Kevin Harvick they both announced they were going to go somewhere 16, 18 months before the year they were going was even going to happen right so I mean I remember Kevin announced at Phoenix that you know two years

from now I'm going to go to Stuart Haas and Kurt Bush now is you know boom I'm going here right so it's not like silly season started earlier it starts whenever somebody approaches you or whenever you have a conversation with somebody but I mean listen good on Michael McDowell dates on a 500 winner a hell of a human being.

And when I tell you all that, I'm not going to go into the guy's personal life, but hell of a human being. I mean, this guy is phenomenal off the racetrack as you can possibly be in terms of what he does for kids and what he does for family. It's, I was shocked. And I think I text Freddie.

And I was like, man, this has got to be a payday, right? Like something, something, is motivating this guy because he's running well. I mean, he had a chance to win races this year. So to, and for drivers to say, hey, I'm going to leave a really competitive situation, holy crap, that's hard to do. Yeah. And especially, you know, there's, and we'll get to here in a minute, I think, but there's,

there's a lot of rumors out there that's, that front row is taking a major step forward. We already know that they're probably going to be a tier one partner if they're not already. and you know he was always kind of the flagship guy there since he's gotten there like he was bringing good people in and and and you know progressing that team greatly it seemed like and obviously they go out and win last year at Indy getting the playoffs they had speed this year out of top 10 yesterday you know obviously really fast at all the plate races and and like it said we talk about all the time on here about key partners versus them second tier partners and you're leaving a key partner now at front of Ron Rowe to go to a second tier, right? I mean, there's no chance. Spires a tier one Chevy team next year. You know what I mean? But to your point, you talked about it specifically on here last week about Ricky Stenhouse.

It seemed to me like Michael's been on one-year deals the entire time that he's been over there. And now one of the biggest things I know he talked about in his press conference was this was a multi-year deal and you get that security and that's a big deal over there. And we know we've seen it last year firsthand on our side of things. spire's going to do whatever it takes to go out and get the best people. And that's probably what they did here. You know, whether you want to call it a payday, whether it's the security, whatever it is, they're going to do whatever it takes to get the best people in

house over there to advance their program. And this is no different, DJ. Yeah, that's what I think is better for Michael is stability of where you're going to race for the next few years. I think he, I think it's going to be harder for him to run well because I think he's gotten really good with the group they've got and they got a lot of good chemistry going over there and have had a lot of speed here. And that's, I think it's going to be hard to step into another situation like this and just, and have that because he's been, they've built that team up.

And, you know, they've done a really good job at it. So, but, you know, the stability that he has, it had to be really good for him personally. Otherwise, I don't think he would have. I'm going to put butter being on the spot right. You think he's ready for this. I was getting ready to. All right. Hold on a minute. You don't know what I'm going to ask you. Would you rather be turning riches for Zane Smith or Michael McDowell? Oh, I mean, I think you got to go with Michael McDowell, right? Because he's got the experience. He can win races.

Zane's not quite to that, which I don't know if it's the team car, whatever. But I know Spire's been struggling. But back to the other one, I'm with you. Like, I think it's the multi-year deal and the money. because why else would you leave where you're at? You can make the playoffs. You're probably not going to make the playoffs next year or might not make it the whole time you're there

unless he's bringing. I heard a rumor that the crew chief might go with him and stuff like that. That's the thing too, man. Like the crew chief he had, you know, when the crew chief left Blake, right? Yeah. He left to go to Bowman.

Bowman. I thought that guy was going to take the speed with him and he didn't. They're still fast. Yeah. Well, you're saying take the speed away from front. road. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm saying, like, I didn't think Michael McDowell will continue to be as good as he was when Blake was his crew chief. And Blake left, and he's just as good as he was. Yeah. It's not better. So it all goes back to how many people he brings with him, probably his morning just. But that's still, I mean, you're still like the support. You know, you're not a lot of rumors that Custer takes that seat. What do you think? I don't know. I mean, there's so many rumors right now. It's crazy. So, like, that's what that's what I was getting at earlier when I said, you know, we're talking about silly season fired up. Like the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the. The. The. The. The. The. The. The. announced deals are not silly season of me.

The silly season is the rumors. You know, if you announce a deal, that takes it off. Like McDowell. And then to that point, you know, I've seen some people saying, like, why the hell would McDowell announce this now when we're in May and you're going to run the rest of this race in the 34 car? Because guess who are we have no secrets. And if you're signing this deal with Spire, somebody's going to know.

Go back to Tyler Reddick. Reddick, when Danny said, Danny said they, you know, they snuck that deal in on RCR and announced it without, you know, kind of, you know, bang, bang, bang. Tyler, but before they got, Danny drove from Winston to the shop and the news was already leaking out before, you know, before that. So if you're going to announce this and you want to do it the right way, you have to announce it or else it's going to get out and you don't want people hearing this secondhand or finding out about the internet, you know, especially somebody like Michael that's been there and meant so much the front row. I think what he did it was right, you know, and you can have all the questions you want about whether his performance is going to step up or down. But I think announcing it now is something you have to do. I think Hoselar is a hell of a driver.

And McCorily, he finished 16th yesterday. He also had a spotter change. I don't know if we're going to talk about that or not. Zane Smith is not relevant in that car right now. He's under contract with track house. He's obviously now moving to track house. A lot of rumors out there. A lot of rumors out there is how that track house thing is going to play out.

So, yeah. I mean, you talked about Chris Rice earlier. The rumors are, hey, Chris Rice is going to be on here in two weeks. and when he's sitting right here where a butter bean sitting, I'm going to flat out ask him, are you merging with track house? Yeah, so he better be ready for that.

If he don't show up, then y'all going to know that he don't want to answer the question. And this is when Chris announces it before. So, you know, to your point, Brett, the rumors are out there. The,

the, the, the latest, you know, this Stewart Haas deal changes day to day. It seems like, but, I mean, the latest rumor,

the one that's gained the most traction is they're selling two charters to front row and their building and basically, you know, going away, they're going to assume sell the other two charters to whoever's in the market to buy them, which, by the way, I'm hearing the numbers that are quite substantially lower than what BJ pay last year. Now, I don't know.

I think that charter deal gets done. Legend. Fairly. Legend. BJ McLeod. The legend. You know, I think that charter deal gets done probably next month or so or, you know, announced. Maybe, I don't know.

But I think the closer we get to that charter deal, the numbers probably go back up. But, yeah, to your point, you know, if that deal goes away, there's four drivers there. Are you under contract? You know TJ's not going to answer to that. No, he can't, he ain't going nowhere, so he can answer it. Are you on a contract with RFK? Yeah. How long is your contract through?

Mine's up this year. I already had some guy tweet me saying, thanks, you're going to be missed on the six-car. So he knew. I know, yeah, I guess. So does your contract prohibit you from talking to another team? Yes. Michael McDowell obviously didn't have that in his contract. Neither did Tyler Reddick, neither did whoever else that announces her leaving this far out.

like how nobody ever does that though no nobody ever talks to other people no nobody talks to anybody the you know to get back to just you know you hear so now you got stewart hoss if they're going away yeah there's and with like the you think they're going away all together no i think so i think so i think it's possible i think it's very possible that they just go away i think that i think that they have some kind of either you don't think they retain two charters and keep going i don't think so i don't think so either i don't think it goes away i don't think so either i don't think it was away I don't think it goes away. I don't know.

Listen, I don't know. I don't know. I think that they're going to sell these two charters to front row. Now, whether or not the front row runs both of those charters or leases one is going to be interesting. I think I get to easily three full-time cars. I don't think the leasing thing is as easily done as it was. I don't know the ends and outs of it, but I think that that's somewhere where it might be heading. I think, too, I agree with, I hear that rumor about Cole Custer heading there a lot.

I hear a lot of teams, a lot of teams are in on Noah Gregson right now, which is obviously understandable. Great personality has a tie to Bass Pro. There's some surprising teams that you hear about talking about him. The Wood Brothers, Harrison's out. I think that's common knowledge now. I think that, you know, I think a big thing of that, I don't know how much it plays into it. Congratulations, John Wood, you know, is kind of taking the helm of Wood Brothers racing there.

You know, if he's, we see this all the time in sports where, you know, a new GM takes over, they want to bring in their guys. You know, they want to bring in their coach, their driver, whatever you want to call it. So it would be interestingly there. Like, I would say, who is that? I would say Briscoe would probably be the guy that I would say is the front runner. I don't know. That's the rumor.

I think that, I think Ford is not going to let Brisco go. I think Ford's going to make sure they hang on to chase Briscoe. Now, if that's the 21, if that's maybe an RFK car that may be there in the market for a charter. If there's going to be a Ford, I heard you're buying a charter. I might buy one. If I could, I would right now. So if you're Dale who has been known to shop around for charters and previously Dale's not, Dale's not buying one at this price. He's going to have to have some kind of partner. Yeah, I don't know. I think he, I don't think he shops around too much. Yeah, I think he wants in the weeds. I think he might, Dale's an eBay guy. He's trying to swoop in. He's trying to swoop in and

and steal a charter from somebody late. But yeah, I mean, there's so much stuff going out there that it'll be interesting to see how it plays out. But everything kind of, like, you see the first, like, and you talked about it, the Domino's. So McDowell is coming to spire. Okay, well, that doesn't make sense. They got three guys ready.

Well, Zane's leaving. All right, well, where the hell Zane going? Because trackhouse ain't just not going to run Zane a cup next year, which I don't know, maybe they might want to consider at this point. Yeah. But by the way, SVG. SBG, yeah. So you need three charters.

A lot of seats. You need four. You need four. and then there's SVG is 38 years old what's your five year playing with him yeah there's

and like to Brett's point there's a team sitting there with two cup charters it's not running well right now that you already have some kind of

alliance with because SVG is in your Xfinity car so it makes a lot of sense there we'll see I'll let Brett Hammer Chris down well Blake brought up a good point

I mean with conversations now are there even charters next year do you know that yeah that deal is going to get done I don't know when it's probably

in the next month or two but as car has said we're going to come back with an offer and I'm telling y'all right now this is the take it or leave it offer there's no way they're coming to a negotiation this is that we've sat on this since Daytona since February and we've thought about it and here you go yeah I mean you probably know more about the ends and outs of it I just know I feel like talking to people in the garage that the deal is nearing completion it's going to be done within the next month or two we appreciate you coming by good luck this weekend and

don't run into my truck to 25 yeah so what days are you racing Wednesday and Saturday. Which means if you are able to, you better get yourself to Wilkesboro this weekend because... Bean Nation rise up. They're... Bean Nation. Is that it?

Bean Nation. We got Bean Nation. We got T-shirts. Can we get a T-shirt? Well, I've got... I will hook y'all with some shirts. Yes, please. Yeah, we're going to need that, for sure. Send me all's sizes. We're all 4x. That's the size. Just send your car cover. We'll make a couple times. I get a lot of beans. Hey, I got, though, I got a 4X.

is in the Waffle House Barterbean shirts too. Hey, I'm a fan, dude. I'm pulling for you. Have fun this weekend, man. Hey, don't suck

because I don't like to pull people that suck. Me neither. My girlfriend told me I can't come home if I don't win. Brett, I got news for you.

Man, I should say that to chat. You're not going to like this. He's an Eagles fan, too. Is he? That's all right. Yeah, he's a cowboy's fan. Oh,

my girlfriend's a galvice fan. Giants fan. Yeah, you're a bill. You're a bill. You're a bill. You're a bit. We didn't talk about that.

That's bullshit last year. What happened when Philly played Dill? The referees. Oh, okay. All right. Thanks for joining us. We're going to take a quick break. Bean Nation.

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is $20 a month. And for a limited time, new customers received their second month free when they sign up and use promo code month free by May 31st. Let's go to the call. Yeah, what's up, guys? I'm on my piss break right now. I just wanted to call and say, uh, willing to bea-hwin, you're a f***ing you. Putting them three wives.

I mean, what the, man, you. Oh, God. Tiny-ass brain of yours. You still got to use it. It don't matter how small it is. You still got to use it. It's the motion of it. the ocean, all right?

And the ocean is telling you three wide. Don't fucking work into turn one, okay? It works in a turn one. It just don't work off a turn two. Yeah, it doesn't work. I don't know where the motion. That guy, first of all, did he say he was on a piss break? He did.

Is that what we started with? Just checking. We can't be mad at people for going three wide. Let's establish that right now. Because if we don't go three wide, I'm not mad. I'm not mad at that call. I know you won the race. But does it depend on the track?

I'm not mad at three wide. I'm not mad at three wide. But you got to respect the guys that are next to you. Yeah, if you enter in lane one, you have to stay in lane one. If you move into lane two, you're in the wrong. Guess what, TJ? You don't suck. Brad just won the goddamn race.

That's it. DJ didn't suck this. Congratulations. This week. Guess if you don't win. What did you do to celebrate? Went home? No, I assume you went down there.

Yeah, I went down there in Victoria Lane for a while. And I saw your. you're a video from victory lane yeah so andrew was down there curland and uh hung i saw him for a little bit but i don't know man it's that was my first cup win with brad so it was kind of yeah it was kind of yeah you know we've been close and i mean you know we've talked after a race and i mean i feel like we've had so many conversations about i can't believe that happened we were going to steve barcdall win brad's first cup race was i think steve's got a win with brad too yeah wow yeah yeah tell day shout out to bark doll yeah he was talking out to that tell the rest yeah so that was kind of

kind of cool. And to see his kids, see the girls down there real happy and stuff, they were when they were taking the car out to tech, they were pushing the car. So it was cool to see, you know, the family atmosphere there. And what's that, 33, 34 wins for that guy? Yeah, he's in the 30s. Yeah. I think so. That's a big, that's a big deal. It's a lot of wins. Dude. I mean, that's a lot of wins. It is. Now that right there is a championship quality track. Championship quality track, championship quality race. You got freaking brother-in-laws about to whoop each other's ass.

You got Chris Bush about the Long Dart, Tyler Reddick somewhere. People pissed off, people happy. Hell of a run by the four team and Justin Haley. Come on. That was just good shit, boy. Just good shit. You heard them. That's the title of the show this week.

Just good shit. I mean, he's. He's not wrong. It was a phenomenal race yesterday. Yeah. I mean, I don't know what more you're going to ask for in a race. Comers and goers, different strategies, guys wrecking each other. Guys, you know, we would say all the time you want to see these guys wreck and they were wrecking yesterday.

Tire management, you know, really side-by-side racing. I had a little bit everything. Stop Strat. You could run two strategies, which made it interesting as well. You could run the short one or the long one and they both had benefits at times. My heart broke when they moved the Southern 500 to California. My heart broke again when they moved the Saturday Mother's Day weekend race to Kansas. And then Darlington went to one date.

And then now it's back the way it's supposed to be. Twice in the best track in America. It's a great race track. It is. Damn, Chris Bisher pushing up on Tyler Reddick looks like a damn gym teacher beating up on a sixth grader. Take on someone your own size, Chris. Is Busher a big dude? He's a lot bigger than Reddick.

I can't say that. He's not like, He's just He reminds me The bar's pretty low there. I think, I mean, I mean,

He reminds me of like a new minute. He's just stalky. You know what I mean? Stalky. Like corn? Stalky. Stalky. Yeah.

It's stalky. Yeah, yeah, it's like a stock. Yeah. So it's a 5 foot 9, 510. Yeah, I'd say it's probably my height.

Yeah, I'd say somewhere that 5, 9, 510. So he ain't going to dunk on you. You know, what the scary part about it is you never see him mad. Oh. So when you get him mad, you've done something. So it was, I mean, and this has been a brutal two weeks for him.

Yeah, I mean. I mean, you lose a heartbreaker, which all by the way is the closest finish of history, so you're going to get to see that about another million times in your lifetime. And then you're leading. And then you're leading to get wrecked. You get torpedoed by a guy. Man. The Reddick Rocket.

Hey, Mr. Major's, this is Steve from Party Supply. and wildlife. Look, I don't want to judge a man on what he's into or how he wants to celebrate, but there is no way I'm sending a 55-gallon drum a cool whip, a pair of sheep, and a slip and slide. You do you, man, but I'm not putting another one of my signs in the yard when you and your buddies get so wasted, you violate my sheep. Oh, wait, that reminds me.

Mr. Kraft, your usual order is ready for pickup. Have a good day, gentlemen. Sorry, guys. Parties off, I guess. I saw that. I saw last night. Like people, it's so funny that you just,

I feel, at times I feel bad for TJ because he kind of gets lumped into our shenanigans multiple times. And yesterday I was like, TJ's going to be hammered on the podcast tomorrow. And I'm like, you guys don't know TJ.

Yeah, probably not. Yeah. I will say that if you would have seen me, you know, 15 years ago. Yeah. That's a good thing. We didn't have a podcast 15 years ago because.

None of us would have been here. Because, yeah. I mean, it didn't matter. Back then. it didn't matter like the beginning of the show there if you won the race or if you finished 30th, we were partying after the race

and especially close ones like this or Charlotte or whatever. It didn't matter if you won or not. You were hanging out and partying. I was probably up till the sun came up most of them times. Woo! Brad finally gets himself a win there in Darlington. That was awesome. It's got me a little bit emotional.

My mask air is almost as running as bad as his was. Casey's boyfriend Tyler there. He's about as short on brains as he is height, that move was never going to work. And finally, even Darlington is able to put on a good show with this absolute engineered scrap race car that we have.

Can't wait until we find the move on to the next generation of race cars. So happy for Brad. Congratulations, TJ. You've been holding that team back for so long, but it's great to see you guys get a win. Did you see TJ after the race, Brad? I saw his little video. Oh, you didn't see him climbing the fence on the front straight away? No, he climbed it?

Yeah, I went right up it. Did you honestly not see the video? The guy climbing the fence? I thought it was TJ too. I figured it was TJ's. Way up there. I mean, he climbed the front stretch fence. He fell down twice trying to do it.

South Carolinians are, if you're going to climb a fence, how high, are you going up over the curve? Well, the problem is it gets that curve. That's what I'm saying. Straight fence, I'm okay with it. I can probably, my fat ass ain't get up there anymore, but back in the day, I probably could have climbed a stroke. But when you get to that curve, I'd be really worried about just going over the

or you keep going. I don't even get up that high to the curve. I'm not, no, I'm not even climbing the fence. So you're stopping the curve. I'm not climbing the fence. Yeah, I'm not even climbing a fence. I don't need to climb it. What's the good in climbing?

But no, there's a dude, there's a guy that, I climbed. Full Richmond yesterday and climbed all the way at the top of the fence as Brad's doing his burnout. Yeah. I assumed it was too. Clint actually, I think, said something about it. Yeah.

Clint said, oh, there's a guy in the fence. He actually looked like a Griffin, to be honest. Yeah, it's a solid chance. Boy, what a beef in freaking race. I'll tell you what. I thought that was it. I thought it was, too. Dark Horse Mustang finally hit puberty and let his balls drop and got into Victory Circle.

What a great call. I thought it was over. You have a little more confidence, Freddie, in the Fords now? You're talking to the wrong guy, buddy. I said the Fords didn't need to be worried. Everybody needs to be worried. I pick Chris Bisher on DBC Picks. Don't get me started.

He was going to win. I've been there. Trust me. Look at my picks. It's frustrating. Okay. You suck. We have one more call.

Hello? Is this that number that Ms. Boat told us to call for a date with Joel? Yeah, I ain't got none of them there wiping rocks around my mailbox or pink flamingos in my yard or pineapples in my window, nothing like that. But I would like to take my pole out and get me some hogs if Joel's interested. I'm talking about fishing. I've seen his profile on Twitter, and it looks like he's into fish. So I'd be into that too. Just have them give me a call back.

Thank you. This guy likes Joel's pole. And hogs. And hogs. Do you say a Twitter profile? Yes, he do say Twitter. I thought about this yesterday as I was on my neighborhood walk and I saw the white rocks by the mailbox. And I thought, man, just imagine being like a 22-year-old listening to our podcast and you realize that your mom and dad's got white rocks.

I've seen a buddy of my Richie Pallai. He tweeted this yesterday. and he's like he's got a he's got a mailbox where he's he's like man I was getting ready to you know put some you know some stones down here he's like but now you guys have ruined it for me I don't know if I can I don't know if I could do that you know what I'm walking my neighborhood tonight I'm looking I still know I still have never heard the I haven't either but I'm going to find out yeah well when we left here I googled it start knocking on doors and hey what happens if they're outside they wave do you wave back I mean what's that

mean is it on came on or what you just go talk to them He just approach them. Okay, Brad, you try that and let us know how it goes. He did. Oh, great calls, as always, to leave an audio message for us. Just call our number 704-802-9572. Consumer Cellular is official wireless partner of Brad Keselowski, RFK racing, and the six-car. If they can count on consumer cellular, you can too.

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same doubt? TJ? Yeah, I mean, you're thinking about it as close as we were. I mean, you just don't know. This sport's so hard to win, and you don't know when it's going to be your last win. And, or even your first for a lot of guys that, you know, yeah, I mean, it was in my head. I don't know how you don't think about it. You just, you get so close and we've had so many conversations on the drive home from to races, you know, what if this went a little bit different, we should have won this, we should have won that, you just never know, man. And, um, I think, uh, yeah, I mean, it's, it's been tough. I'm not going to lie. It does drain, it does, it does, it does wear you down mentally. Um, and I, you know, I'd be lying if I said it was easy.

Oh, for sure. And I mean, we're kind of in the midst of, of a long streak now that we've, you know, me and Bubba being there forever, 15 years. This is our 15th year. Um, we have, um, we a lot of success early in the K&N series. We had a lot of success in the truck series. Xfiniting didn't go so well. Beginning of the cup career didn't go so well. Finally got to where we needed to be won some races. And now you're back in this streak where it's been over a year and you're wondering, you know, you're in position, you got speed. You don't, I don't think you doubt that it's going to come. It's just you have your concerns that, you know, how are we going to get this done? And it obviously always creeps in the back

of your mind somewhere. Well, here's a weird part. Like you go back to the start of last year, Hendrick has 16 wins, JGR has 12 wins. If you're not one of those two organizations, it's freaking hard. And obviously, RFK has four wins in that same time span. But, man, you go into every race, every weekend, hoping you can win. And then when you practice, you kind of settle into, man, I hope we can run here, right? Whether it's 15th or 5th, but if you know if you can run top 5, you've got a chance to win. And so as a spotter, we're probably way more optimistic than the drivers because drivers are feeling and seeing every inch and every opportunity.

But, I mean, if you're a driver with a 5% win percentage, you're a Hall of Famer. In any other sport, you'd be dead. You wouldn't even have a job. So I say this all the time. Winning a Cup Series race is the hardest thing to do in all the motorsports in America. It's so freaking hard. This next one is from Andrew. I'm traveling to North Wilkesboro from the United Kingdom next.

weekend for the All-Star Race, followed by a road trip through Charlotte, Atlanta, Nashville, and finishing with the Indy 500. No, he ain't going to make it to Indy 500. Nashville's deadly. Sol his schedule. What are your top recommendations other than Big Ows? Milbridge.

Oh, my gosh. I don't think they're, I don't think they're, I don't think Big Ows is a top recommendation for Charlotte. It's just where we go on Sunday Heights because there's nothing else open. I think we let people down often when they're like, I get a lot of tweets about, you know, know, man, big Allen's in a strip mall?

Like, it's, like, I'm like, yeah, it's, it's our place. You know,

I would say another top, top recommendation is J.R. M. Fan Day next Thursday to catch us. It's race shops.

It's Hall of Fame. It's honestly, Hall of Fame. Ray shops. There's nothing cooler to do in Charlotte. If you're a race fan, then GoPro Motorplex.

That's a good spot. Yeah. Those, those, those cards are fast. I think it's called Trihaus. I hope that I don't,

I don't, I should probably not say this because I'm not 100% pretty sure airspeed is going to open up during the Charlotte Race Week. Wow. So that'll be cool. What is airspeed, Freddie? What is airspeed?

That's where we build speed for 2311. That's the shop that we're using, but obviously we're not permitted to call in a shop. So it's airspeed. It's our facility. Well, it's a shop. You ask me what it is. It's a shop, Casey. That's a building that we've housed the cars in.

It's so aggressive. But I believe it's going to be open. I think it might be the same. day as Jaron Fanday, which is the 23rd, I believe. So I don't know, keep an eye off for that. I'm sure they'll announce something soon. The guy's doing it right, though. He's coming from the U.K., like he's hitting some good spots.

Yeah, and listen, you're going to, if you're coming through Charlotte, you're going to Atlanta, you've got to stop at the Varsity. The varsity is a local treasure. You got to go to the college football Hall of Fame in Atlanta. Atlanta. In Atlanta. Okay. I don't know.

I've never been. The varsity, you U.K. guy, you're driving down the interstate and it's on your left when you get coming into a lot. Atlanta. It's a hot dog and burger joint. I think it's called a frosted orange. It's like a dreamtickle milkshake thing. It's fantastic. And it lasts you all the way from Atlanta to the Canapolis border. I've tried it one time. I will say, you know, I was obviously joking about Mobridge, but there are a lot of local tracks along that route that you can easily catch. Oh, you were joking? I mean, I was, but I wasn't. There are two big races at Molybridge next week. Are there? But yes, there are. But I will say

like there are quite a few and and I mean a lot of these tracks also have local um do you do y'all wish that the all-star race was at charlotte motor speedway i'm not saying we wouldn't go to northwarksboro like don't don't confuse me with saying let's go to charlotte's south northwurst let's let's assume northwarksboro still lives why on our schedule is that something you wish brett i'm asking y'all i think i mean i used to love the week between the all-star and and the 600. I thought that was, I mean,

and you're kind of getting a lot of the same stuff because it's not, we're still in Wilkesboro, but I think the race would be better at Charlotte, for one. But, you know, which it'll be interesting to see how this option tire works.

But, you know, I always love that. Run Charlotte, have that week in between where you go to see these fast shops and everything and then have the 600. Yeah,

the way this car is, I think in the right format, I think the awesome race could be very exciting. at Charlotte Motor Speedway, but I also think they're working on things to make it exciting at Wilkesboro, too. So we might go up there and have one of the best all races

we ever had. Why do you think Wilson Bro hadn't sold out already? Which I have not. I mean, I hope it has by now. I haven't looked. One thing that is like interesting to me that I haven't looked to see what they're selling for tickets,

is that backstretched grandstand gone? I have no idea. It's not been any of the pictures I've seen from the test. They do have a spotter stand now, right? Yeah, the spotter stands on top of that suite in turn four. But from all the pictures I've seen at the test, the backstretched grandstand that was there is gone. Now, I mean, it was a portable grandstand so they can take it out and bring it back as fast as they want to.

But I haven't looked at the ticket sales to see if they're selling that backstretched grandstand on the island. I'm going to Myrtle Beach this weekend for a baseball tournament. But if I were not going to Myrtle Beach for a baseball tournament, this is one of the races I would literally buy tickets to and take Bodie. Because this is the grassroots. This is the home of what NASCAR you've. to me. I'm glad we're back there. I think that this race, and if you go back and listen to Dale's show with Elton Sawyer last week, they were talking about this tire that we're going to

run, the softer tires, basically the rain tire without the grooves in it, it sounds like to me anyway, which we saw last year was a really good tire for racing anyway. And a lot of people are comparing it to the harder versus the softer compound. And to listen to Elton, basically like they're only working they're wanting to see what this tire does for the future you know like not so much concerned about how it relates to the harder tire but just so sewing us like is this tire going to wear out is there going to be cumbers or go or is it do you have to manage this tire i hope you can i hope you see us go out there and run as hard as we can and and burn the tires

off this thing early and and and teams figure out and i i hope what i hope obviously i always see this complaint about you know we need option tires we need options tires the problems the problem is just like we do with a pitch strategy, the team's going to figure out when, when to put the stuff on and everybody's going to do the same thing. So I hope that somebody doesn't at Wilkesboro. You know, I hope there's somebody that puts it on early and cuts through the field and not everybody just saves it for later or somebody, if everybody puts it on early, somebody does save it for later and can cut through the field later. But I hope there's some differing strategies on that race and that and that program. I just hope they see the option tire is the better tire, and that's

the tire we run. Yeah. I think that's kind of what Elton was getting at. Elton was, because we were talking about a lot of people were like, oh, you know, how's it compared to the other tire heads up? And it's like, they're not so concerned with that. They're concerned to how that tire, that option tire performance because they would, you know, if it's an option to move forward and use that at Martin'sville. I think they figured out some, some good things. Like the tires that were that were wearing out of Bristol, they weren't just popping. You were used. It was like you were wearing it out too much and it, you don't have, when you felt it, you pit. Yeah. Like you wore yourself out. You need to hit pit road. And I, and I, I think. think that's a good thing. Yeah. This next question is from Nathan. Is it panic time for anyone outside the top 16 in points to get a win for the playoffs? So I don't know that it's panic time, right? My guy's 16 or say 17th in points.

He's six points out of the championship, right? Or out of the playoffs. I talked about two weeks ago how easy it is to lose points on here because we had back to back to ENFs and lost a bunch of points yesterday. We ran top 10 both stages, ninth and 10th in the two stages, finished seventh. And we went from four points out to six points out. So if you're telling me it's not time to panic for the guys like Noah, maybe Joey's on that line of, you know, maybe he doesn't need to panic yet.

But, you know, 19th back, no, these guys are going to have to win, I think, because it's just so hard to make up ground. You know, we obviously, I think we were four behind Brad. Now we're six behind Briscoe. So we've gained on Kyle Bush yesterday, but still we have a top 10 run all day long and lose ground technically in the in the fight for the last playoff spot so it's just if you get to a point where you know you're i think no was 83 out or something like that you did that you have to win i'll tell you what man josh is creeping in on noah yeah and

we had said was the beginning of year um over under on steward house was going to be 20th and they got two in the top 20 and one knocking on the door of the top 20 so that's pretty impressive with a big point penalty yeah yeah for sure Noah anyway Which one's got it there? Noah and Priest, I think? So, I mean, you think these guys, I mean, who do, from Noah Downs must win, you think? Or can he make up an 80-point cap on us and Lugano? I don't, I think everybody that's out is going to have to win.

I mean, I think, you know, it's easy to say Bubba Wallace can point his way in over Chase Briscoe. I mean, dude, you're staring down, Kyle Busch. He can win anywhere. Chris Busher, he could have won the last two weeks. Ross Chastain, he's going to win a race. Like, Alex Bowman, he's a Hendrick car. Like, I mean, what I'm looking at inside of the top 16 is guys that are fast with a lot of speed that can win at a lot of places. And I don't, I mean, listen, Clint Boyer, God bless him, love and death.

There were years where we rode around trying to point our way in instead of going out and winning races. Blake Shelton asked to come on the show because at that point in the NASCAR journey, he was frustrated with guys not racing to win, racing their way in. I don't think if you're outside of this top 16, you can say I'm going to point my way in. Absolutely not. That's the point I was making this today. We ran as good as we could yesterday. We weren't great, weren't bad. We ran top 10 and lost ground.

You know, so, you know, it's, it's, you have to. And then you're going to have, you got road courses coming up. You've got, you know, at least two more plate races before, I'm sorry, one more plate race before the playoffs start. So, you know, I mean, you're getting wild card wins from anywhere here. You know, and some guys could pop a win off. Bushers right here in front of us, he could have won yesterday. You know what I mean?

So it's just, I think everybody's a little bit panicked. What if you're out? I sat on here a few weeks ago that we're hitting the sweet spot of the schedule. Minus North Wilkesboro, A, it's not a point race, and B, it's a short track. Like, these races are, I mean, Jeff Gluck's poll right now is 93% was Darlington a good race. We're hitting the money spot of the schedule. That's high. That's freaking real high.

What was last week? 96. Yeah. It's two big weeks. Dude, I told you all, we're hitting the money spot right here. Just need Denny to not win. Speaking of Denny, Dirty Bow announced the return of the Denny Hamlin Bracket Challenge.

Sounds like there's tons of excitement from fans on X. What do you all think? Yeah, I haven't seen, I think, and somebody who has to back me up on this, I think, did I see that Amazon or TNT has said that they're going to somehow incorporate something like this into their broadcast? part, you know, thing next year. That's cool. So that's cool.

But yeah, this was, I mean, this was a hit last year. How'd y'all brackets do? I don't think I did one. I didn't do one. Yeah. We could do that this year. We could do that. Yeah.

I know you do not win. It'll be a lot of fun and it's something cool to, you know, like, look at matchups and talk about during the week. And I think they're, you know, like, I think Danny had a great idea here when he brought it up last year. And there definitely, I think, shouldn't be something in season like this. You saw the NBA do it this year and in a season tournament where it's got a big payday at the end of the year and it adds value to a race that might not be as exciting.

You know, you can have a battle for 12th that's actually for a million dollars or something like that, you know, so it's definitely a great idea and it's awesome to see it come back. Head to journeymo Media.com to sign up for the newsletter to hear when it will be live. What an idiot. All right, guys, who is your idiot of the week? I don't know what Freddy's is, but I'm going to assume it's that idiot that drug, truck in the side of Bobby Timman's race car. Oh, man. I mean, that's a, bro.

Like, we don't have many Hall of Fame, wouldn't it? That's a Hall of Fame. No, that guy is straight to the top. I saw, I saw another angle from like turn four where I think what, it's hard to tell exactly what they're going, what's going on in the car there. And I think the angle I saw, some people that aren't, have maybe not seen it go to my Twitter. I retweet it there day. Brett did, I think. Bobby Timmons 13 is, is Bobby's Twitter. Yeah. It's there. He runs a supermodified at Star.

which kind of similar to any spring a spring car race you watch they have to get pushed off to start. So this is, I don't know if this didn't look like a push truck because it didn't have anything on the front of it to push with but they're getting pushed off, they're rolling around the racetrack and this guy just hangs the left and destroys Bobby's race car.

Lucky Bobby was okay. Then the video I saw from the outside it looks like he's throttling up trying to get across the racetrack quickly. I don't know what you're doing. Like you're like like I said, you're one idiot Hall of Fame member.

We had a couple this week. There's a guy, poor guy in the arc of race that drove right into a big tire at the end of the pit road. But most of the time I'm what an idiot is fun. Like it literally is to make fun of somebody. We've even given that to ourselves.

I'm going to do that in a minute. But like we, this is, this could have been dead right. Yes, it's absolutely kidding. This is a serious what an idiot. And man, who pays for that? So Bobby did,

Bobby did tweet that the racetrack and I think the sponsor of the race or whoever was putting on the event have reached out to him and they're working on some details to try and make it right. But I mean, you can't make it right. You know what I mean? You can maybe help Bobby. Bobby's a fabricator.

Bobby basically, Bobby and his dad basically built that race car from the ground up. But then there's not a lot of bodywork on that thing. So, I mean, it's probably more so heartbreaking for him that his race car just got destroyed versus, you know, anything else. But I feel bad for him. He texts me before the video

came out and he's like, man, you're not going to believe what happened to me today. And when he showed me the video, he was right. I couldn't believe it. This is the same guy who threw up at Big Al's, by the way, just to tie this all the way. Oh, I forgot about that. Oh, yeah. He threw up on the floor at Big Alas. Alleged. Yeah. No, no, no. I saw him throwing up. There is no allegedly bullshed to this. He's coming back. He said he's making a return visit for the

old stuff. Hold on. We got to give it to our buddy. Okay. Who we giving it to? Clint Boyer. What do he do? Oh. I heard two things. Pull it over? I heard he got a speeding ticket to Mick B. What an idiot. It's MacBee, by the way.

Okay. Yeah, okay. And then he's trying to circle the idiot that was climbing the fence on the front stretch and somehow circled some guy's ass on television. Yeah, I mean, Dustin, I think Clint likes your backside, buddy. That's up. Clint, poor Clint. Do you have any idiots this week, T.J.?

I was getting a little. to give it to the fence guy. They climbed it? Yeah, what do you do? He was trying to celebrate your win. You can't give a guy an idiot award. You don't. We're security in this situation.

You don't need to be on top of the curved part, man. That's where, you know what the next step is, is racetrack. Yeah. Yeah, that's not, uh, that's not, that's not, that's not very good. It's been a long time, man. He's excited. You know what? I don't know if I want to give it to him or not.

Like, we were, we were choosing from third. And Ty Gibbs is running second. and we were front row or fourth outside and we pretty much knew where they were going to go. But for some reason, ties rolling up to the choose box and he swears left. Then he comes back like, well, like, what do you do it? Just choose your lane. It's not like, he almost got you. Yeah, like, oh, are you trying to like, what, are you?

You know when that'll stop? When he hits the box. Yeah, when he hits the box. But like, Tony Hirschman told him to do it. It's just like, do you know what that shows? Like, this dude wants to get rid of us. He's, we're like, he doesn't want us up here. So he's trying to do every little thing.

Like, but like, just shoot you spot. Hey, I will give Ty credit. He ran a great race. He did a great job. He did a really good job. He did a really good job. Oh, yeah. He had the best Instagram post of the day.

Did you see it? You ever see the SpongeBob meme where it's like, I'm a head out. And the guy's like getting up. There's a video. Ty is talking to Tyler as Busher is heat seeking missile for Tyler. And Ty text turns around. You just see him look up and he just, he tweeted the video and says, I'm a head out.

Speaking of, speaking of that, I would have give him that what a genius for that. And also, I picked on them last week because they suck. But the Dirty Mo No guys are back to the Dirty Modo guys, Tampa Tims, which hold on a second. I'll get back to that in a second. Picked Brad to win, I guess. I know I saw a clip of him talking about there's great value in Ford's this week. Ford's had five of the top 10. So he nailed that pick.

But I have to ask him, maybe this is for the production crew more so than us. Where the fuck did the name Tampa Timms come from? He was Alex Thames for as long as I known him. He's not from Tampa. Like, where, how does, is this like an alter ego personality that he's trying to? He's been Tampa Tim's as long as I've been here. I've only been here three and a half months. He did.

He's been to Tampa one time. So he went to Tampa one plus. He's been to one time. Something happened. You don't just go to us. He got locked up or he got some like pregnant. You don't just get the town's name. Yeah, I don't.

I promise you what I'm, I am never going to be Columbia Freddie. That's not going to happen. I mean, Brett's not going to go to Chicago and become Chicago Brett because of this cup race. I mean, Brett's not going to be Chicago Brett. I mean, unless. Unless. That's like I met this kid this weekend. His name was Montana.

I'm like, well, I ain't going to name my kid South Carolina. But Brett, you get these nicknames. Brett has a friend that I forget. I wish I knew the whole story right now. I'm sorry. Herm has a friend that his two kids were on vacation somewhere. And one was like this or prom night or some was like the center motel. which is not a nice hotel in middle of Canapolis.

And their other kid was conceived like at the MGM in Las Vegas. And he's like, if I was sure, I wouldn't tell either one of your kids about that. But it's like you should name them. You should have named them after each like where they were born. You know, Caesar. One be Caesar. I'm not trying to speculate here, but a very well-known movie, Magic Mike was filmed in Tampa. So I don't know if Tampa Tim's.

Tim's was out there dancing? So what do you think happened? Maybe that's how he's getting his betting bankroll. Oh, do you know? Oh. I don't know. Do you? He looked like he knew some.

Who, Evan? Yeah. Evan. Listen, Evan's a man of mystery. All of a sudden, he's, I don't know, this kid's out there making voices. He was, you know, Evan painted the lines on the track. By the way, shout out, the line was straight as hell. Yeah, man.

I mean, it was straight as hell and it looked like it was lined up with the camera. I did. I went out there and measured it. It was straight. No, I'm scared. One chance in that again. Just a gase. Oh, moving on to DBC picks.

I honestly, like, I give up. We all suck this week. 19th 1. I mean, I literally picked Larsen. Told you all air Jones. I got Tyler Reddick. I had, what? I was going to win.

That don't matter. I was going to win. Until 8 to go, I was going to win. My guy was outrunning your guy all race long until he got a speeding penalty. Even you told me that I was going to win. I know. Larson, come on. So here's my question for BBC picks this week.

Are we sticking to the... No. No, you pick anybody you want. You pick whoever you want. That's what we do. Yeah. I get to pick first. No, no, no, I do, right?

No. You sure? I lost with Larson. Why? Because Larson wrecked. Oh, you're making me so mad today. I'll go with Denny Hamlet. Kyle Larson.

Well, he's coming from the back. Kyle Larson. Coming from the back. He has to, right? He can't run heat races. $800. He'll be right. Kyle Larson.

Okay. So my turn? Uh, hmm. I'll take I got to pick somebody's in a race, I guess, huh? Josh Perry. He's a good short track guy. He's a really good short track guy.

So he's going to win the open? Maybe. I hope not. I hope my guy wins the open. Oh, you're an open? Oh, yeah. I'm in open. T.J.'s not an open.

He's a more. And a champion. I will take Martin Chewax. All right. So I feel like he's going to come back here. I'm going to go with William Byron. You've been in motherfucking him the whole show. I did not.

I said I like Legos, dude. Damn. I like William. I love William. Do you know you've won twice, and your average finish of those wins is 21st? Do you realize I probably have more single-digit finishes than the rest of you as well? You don't know, look at that, Casey? Whatever.

All right. All-star race weekend. I mean, they could not have a better schedule between the cars tour. We have the pit stop pit crew challenge. the race is going to be phenomenal, as Freddie would say. Oh, you know what I think I'm going to go this week just for fun? Big ass. Nope.

Oh. I think I'm going to go to Bowman Gray. I've been to Boa McRae. I've been to Boa McRae for a year and a half now. I've never been to Boa McGra. And they've started to trend back in a bad direction this week. They had some terrible races and a f***le show guy flipping off the crowd. Hey, what was it, Tim Brown?

No, I don't even know his name. He's like the guy that was like praised for being the crowd favorite last week. And now he's flipping the crowd off in the middle of football theater. Saturday night? What was a Saturday night? What was his name? Who's Zach? Something.

Zach Staley, Stanley, something like that. Yeah, Saturday night. But yeah, I think if we're going to do after the truck race, me and Hirsch, maybe Meg will head up there and maybe watch Bowman Gray. You got to run heat races. I don't have a heat race. What can we expect as we watch this weekend? Fast.

Fast. Really, like, two seconds faster than we were last year, probably. Probably a little faster than that when you put that other tire on there. And I think that's the biggest thing everybody needs to focus on is how that tire performs because that may be a huge thing moving forward for our short track package. And this could be the unknown. The unknown this weekend with these tires. I mean, it's going to be interesting.

Looking forward to it. Now, with Harvick practicing for Larson, because Larson will be an indie, you really think he has a shot of the win if he's starting from the back. Carl Larson can win anyway. We all started in the back last year. I think we drove to the front. Yeah, I don't. Just not when I pick up.

I think it's going to be hard to pass because obviously, new asphalt is not ideal. I think the question is, you know, how does this, as they've said. Super grippy. If the grip falls off, it's going to be good. Yeah. That's what we need to happen. And, man, it's a, our all-star event is the best all-star event in all-sports. There's nothing else like it. But you know, the NFL all-stores. I mean, NFL's gone into a freaking two-hand tag game because it's so lame. And the NBA game is just the overrun is 400. No defense. Yeah. You don't play Dier- You're talking legit all-stars out there being absolutely lame. These dudes are going to go in here with a million bucks on the line.

Well, yeah, they're trying to win. The other guys are going to care about. They're trying to beat each other for a lot of money. Yeah. Literally second place doesn't matter. Yeah. Be fun. I'm all for it.

All right. Well, everybody enjoy your week. Congratulations again, TJ. We're shotgun and beers after the show for TJ. All right. Right now. I'll film you too. I'll join you.

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