Door Bumper Clear - 336 | A Wet ‘N’ Wild New Hampshire Race

Episode Date: June 24, 2024

TJ Majors, Freddie Kraft, and Brett Griffin are joined by fill-in host, Carla Gebhart, to recap a wet’n’wild race at New Hampshire. Christopher Bell may have swept the weekend, but he couldn’t avoid a mention in “What An Idiot” after accidentally leaking that Chase Briscoe would be joining JGR next season. The guys give their takes on the wet weather tires and react to a heated exchange on the No. 5 car’s scanner between Kyle Larson and his spotter. Plus, what should we expect out of the newly announced “Haas Factory Team” as Gene Haas decides to hold onto a charter? 21+ and present in North Carolina. Opt in req. Wager requirements apply. Bonuses awarded as non-withdrawable bonus bets or profit boost tokens. Restrictions apply including bonus expiration. See terms and conditions at fanduel.com/sportsbook. Gambling problem? Call 877-718-5543 or visit morethanagame.nc.gov. Want more DBC? Check out and subscribe to the new DBC YouTube channel! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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Clear. Hey, everybody. I'm T.J. Majors. Spotter, the six cup of car this weekend. Did a little ex-finy racing with Carson Quaple and had a mod for a few laps before it broke with ADJ. That's fun. Brett Griffin, Spotter Richard Childers Racing. I'm back at the racetrack. Two weeks in a row, Nashville and then Chicago. Is that right? Yeah. Yeah, that is right. What's up? Freddie Craft. Spotted for Chate. Oh, no. Bubba. I'm doing Bubba still. Poor, poor, poor Bell. What's up? Freddy Craft Spotted, Bubba Wallace.

Kyle Sieg this week also had Doug Kobe for all of 10 laps. Doug Kobe blew up on the 10th lap of the race and he was my best finish of the weekend. So that's a very good sign for my weekend. But in the house today, joining us for the first time while Casey is off sunning her baby bump on, I don't even know, some beach somewhere. And where did she say she's going, Anguila? In Alaska. Anguilla. Joining us for the first time, how are you, Carla?

I'm doing good. Carla Geppart here, yes, filling in for the lovely Casey boat. You hear me, I guess, on DJD Reloaded sometimes, also Fox Charlotte locally. So this is your first big gig. This is. I was thinking about it on the way in. I'm like, this might be my first true test in broadcasting of leading you three. Wait, first, I think we probably need to get this out there.

I said true test. This is this going to be a true test? I promise you that. I think we should all start off by apologize in the color that we are not Trey. Her favorite spotter. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I mean, really, let's go back to this for a second. Been waiting for this moment right here.

He is actually cuter than the three of us, though. He is better looking. I'll give him that, but I don't know about a better spotter. I said, I recanted my statement. I said, you three at the top. Okay. It's like the fourth. Yeah, gotcha.

I'm not recanting any of my statement. Oh, boy. New Hampshire, man. You all had a lot going on. A lot of weather, a lot of races. What a day. What a weekend. What a weekend.

The whole thing is just the day. Yeah. I mean, for one, I thought the week, when I looked at originally, like, Monday or Tuesday of last week, I'm like, we're going to be there all week. Like, it was like a 70, 80% chance of rain every day. I'm like, we got three races to get in. Saturday looked like the worst day, really, and it was the modified and Xfinity race that day. And then like we have issues because obviously we are one of the, like our job is the only one that really works, aside from the NASCAR officials, the only one that really works all three series. So now you're looking at, all right, when's this race going to run? Am I going to have a way to get home? because I don't spot for a Gibbs Exfinity car. I ride the Gibbs playing because the Cup deal. And then, like, you don't have, so now do I need a ride home? Like, now is the modified race going to be last? And what the hell am I going to do then?

Because Tommy, I'm sorry, I'm not staying, you know, like, so a lot of things come into play. And then we end up getting all three races started on time. We had a big delay in the cup race, which I still can't believe we went back racing. But, I mean, we should have. But it was still, I thought for sure, whenever it started raining, we were done. Yeah, I don't, look at the, I mean, to get all the, the races they did in to move the modified race from Saturday night up to Saturday morning was really helpful but like I mean that's in the back of your mind you know mine too if they ever

move the modified race to another when we're gone I can get home with Xfinity but it's tough with when they move like another race like that back because you can't do it then but I mean full weekend full weekend of racing and a track that always has a lot of races racing and wrecking There was no shortage of wrecks Oh, we can. Including if you guys saw it, John Force. Oh, my gosh. Yeah.

That was right as our race was starting, I think, is when I saw it. Herm showed it to me. Yeah. I mean, what did they say you hit the wall? Like 300 miles an hour? What his run was. And then obviously it's 75 years old. He smokes the wall, blows up, on fire.

Still hasn't lifted. It still gets out of the car. Still hasn't lifted. I mean, yeah, the guy, if there's anybody that can do that is John Forrest. I've got a really funny story. I think he's, have they come out and gave an update? I know, like. I don't know if I saw an official one other than he was in.

There was an official update that he was in. He's in a hospital probably. Hopefully he's okay, but I have a funny story about John Force. Our good friend, Joel Edmonds. Oh, boy. You know if I say Joel's name. It's just going to be a funny story. He missed this weekend.

Back in the day, the RE guys used to stage the Roush car, you know, back when you had to get a, you had to escape. So Kevin Hughes and John Leveck, they worked for racing electronics. They would park the car. car and the rouse spotters would run to the car, get in and take off. They used to fly together, though, right? Yeah, yeah. Yeah. And so Herm and Joel Edmins, who we all know is the happiest person on the planet,

get in the car. And I don't know what the hell happened to John Forst that day. I don't know if he broke a record or something, but like as Kevin's trying to maneuver out of the racetrack, he's telling Herm about John Forst's day, but he's like, I guess it's slowing up, getting out. And Joel's in the back seat going, who gives a fuck about John Force? So I was glad to see yesterday that Joel tweeted out, prayers. to John Forres, so now apparently he does

once again give a . When Joel's in go mode, everybody's supposed to be in go mode. I think when Joel's in the car and someone else is driving, Joel's always in go mode there. There's a lot of stories about Joel got mad somewhere that I think it was ready. It's not just somewhere, it's everywhere. I think it was Talladegger somewhere and like they waited on me

to get there and he was pissed. He was like, why the fuck are we waiting on Brett? That's good question. Joel would have been a lot of fun to be cars sitting with yesterday. Oh, yeah, he would have been in a really good mood. Should we go ahead and get into the race weekend recap, maybe? Yeah, I mean, Chris Pabell wins journal.

Turns out he's pretty good there. Seven of his last 11, I think they said on the broadcast. Wow. It's, I mean, and listen, he shouldn't have won on Saturday. He was, he was the, I thought he was the best car for a while and then lost a little track position to the double zero. And then the double zero was kind of cruising to a win until those late race restarts. You know, you get like guys kind of get to your bumper. I don't think, you know, Sheldon kind of, you know, I don't think Sheldon did even hit him.

Like, it looked to me like he packed air, what he was, I mean, he was tight. Yeah. It wasn't, I don't think it was anything, I don't think Sheldon did anything wrong. You know, he's racing for the wind. He kind of moves him up, but slows the two of them down, let's Bell get a big run down the front. And I still think that Sheldon was going to clear Bell off of two if the double zero doesn't kind of repay the favor and get back into Sheldon. So Bell, that was kind of one that kind of fell in Bell's lap. But then Saturday, obviously, he was really good when we put the wet tires on.

He was hauling ass there late. I mean, even in the cup race, though, he was, I mean, Martin ran him down and passed him. Yeah. So I think it was going to be hard to beat. I think Martin was going to be, I think Martin was the best car. Another, just another brutal race for them guys. Yeah, I don't know what happened on Pittsburgh. I know they had to come back down or they sat there.

It looked to me, it looked to me like the replay I saw, they didn't get the right rear tight. The right rear guy goes to go back around and then calls a jackman back up. So usually what that means is they kind of dropped a jack before it got tights. and now they've got to pull it off and put it back on. It seemed like, I don't know, but yeah, I mean, he's running, I think, second at that point and comes out. And then he comes out and then he goes back there and sees what it's like where we were the whole entire race. Why did you spin him out? I don't know.

He's in the way. He was upset, I saw. He was upset before that. I promise you that. I'm sure whenever he was waiting for the jack to drop or whatever and go and they had to go back over that, I'm sure that meter probably pegged right about that point in time. But he actually had a pretty solid recovery going. And I mean, I don't know where he ended up.

He was in the top 10. Yeah, he had a pretty solid recovery, honestly, for being, you know, spun out. And I think he did hit the fence a little bit. So good comeback for him. Came back to eighth. Yeah, he had the best car, I think, all day. So unfortunately, that pit road mistake. And the dirty air there is so bad.

Like, it was going to be hard for him to get back through there naturally, even with a fast car that he had. I think he did a really good job in the rain. like gouging, everybody's just gouging in the rain. So, uh, what were you guys communicating to the drivers, uh, once they started on rain tires? Cause it looked like some guys were figuring out quicker than others where they needed to be on the straightaways under green, what they needed to do under caution.

And then some guys were riding around in the dry like they were just lost. And then obviously monkey see monkey do kicked in. Yeah. I, I think that it was just how, how aggressive were you willing to be, you know, the bottom, like when we first fired off and the one, it was at its wettest, the apron seemed like the one that was moving forward. They would literally like, as soon as they got clear of the pit wall, they would turn down on the apron and then try to run all the way through the corner there.

Those guys are making progress early in the run. Then as I think as it dried out, the lane just started moving back up to almost, you know, it was just above the new pavement for a little while, I thought. It's almost like the new pavement was slick. I think it's just rubber. A lot of times they tell you like try to avoid the rubber, try to avoid the paint in the rain.

And obviously that was the most rubbered up part of the racetrack because, you know, obviously got washed off. but as we run there. Yeah, I just, we were, Bubba was timid. You know, we're talking, we're coming to green. And as we're coming to green, Kyle Busch goes in Rex. Like, just drives into three. I'm talking Rex hard.

Yeah, he goes into three. Like, and he just, I think he didn't realize how what it was, one. And didn't, he didn't really break. You know, he like, he kind of carried more speed in there and then just kind of busted his ass. And he was in the rubber. Yeah. Like right.

Yeah. In the middle of a racetrack, right where everybody didn't want to run. So then he goes and Rex and you're like, what the hell happened there? talking to JR, Mike, did he drive in too deep? He's like, he didn't really, he said he didn't really break, you know, he just drove in. I think he was carrying too much speed. And then, all right, well, we'll get that cleaned up. All right, now we're coming to green. Hold the one to go. You know, I'm like, what's going on? And LaJoy spun out off of two. They're like, yeah, he was running 40% throttle and spun out. So now you're like, oh, you're scared. Like, and I'm like,

I don't even want to tell Bubba this, but you got to tell him because, you know, if he goes in there spins out. You know, he don't, you know him to spin out. Yeah, I did the same thing. And you're like, and then the green's coming up and you're like, uh, this is going to be pretty ugly. I mean, you're spinning, Bubba, you would spin tires really bad at the start finish line. Like as you're, you know, the whole star finish line's painted. Right. So you're trying to avoid paint at all costs because that's the slickest. And, you know, Bubba said, like just rolling around or the yellow, he would, if he, you know,

buzz the tires on the paint, it would just spin. So now he's worried as I'm running through the gears, if I get to that paint, I'm up somebody's ass or somebody, you know, behind them, are they going to spin? Am I going to spin the tires? So there was just a lot of unknowns. didn't know what lane to choose. You know, we're operating off of outside bias or outside bias giving up a row all day.

And now you get it to the restart and you're like, all right, now what do we do? You know what I mean? Like what lane's going to fire off here? Is the bottom top? Do we still give up a row? So there's just so many unknowns going into that. And I mean, everybody did a great job of getting through it.

One thing we noticed at home under yellow is guys were leapfrogging each other. Like, you know, it's like some guys were maintaining pace and some weren't. Yeah, so they were letting that go because, you know, we were all kind of trying to get against the inside wall down the front stretch because they were standing water down there to cool your tires off. And, I mean, some guys, I've seen John Hunter drive through the grass at one point cooling his tires off. And it helped him, obviously.

You ran up to, I don't use in the top ten, I think. But so, like, you're going so slow because you're not trying to run each other over and not try to. So then some guys would, like, the 47 pulled out a line to pass 20 guys, which I don't know, they put them right back. You know, I think it was just, in those conditions they're kind of giving everybody a pass. If they were going to start. monitoring that. They needed to start monitoring

the where we come off term for it. We were all crossing the commitment box. We were inside the commitment box. Yeah, they were making a big deal of that. Yeah, and we weren't getting penalized for it. So, whenever I saw the nine do it and a couple of others You knew it was going to be okay. And there was no penalty. I'm like, you're good.

The other thing I saw is when it was wet out there, I guess they opened pit road one time and the lap cars never even got a chance to pit. Yeah, basically. That's a close Yeah. So they opened pit road, never said, I don't, I only know this because Frankie Kimmel had spots for 99 was going nuts about it behind me. He was the lucky dog, I think. And they, they opened pit road, did not say Quicky that I heard. I didn't. And then, and then went one to go the next lap. So the lead, the lap down guys just never got a chance to pit. Lucky dog. Lucky dog didn't get a chance to pit. So yeah, that was really, the only thing they're missing right there is a chance to pit. But you can't do anything.

you're going to come down pit road look at your crew wave to them. You don't need fuel because when we went back green everybody was good on fuel already at that point. You're basically missing around in over here, around there. So that's what, that's the only thing they were missing. And I'm not even sure that was going to make that. I don't think it was going to help. No, so it's not like they missed getting tires or something like that, which would have been used.

I know there's some pit strategy stuff coming, but is it okay to open pit road or whatever until you, you can't get tires at all? I don't, I mean, yeah. This is the part of the, this is the part of the, this is the part of the base that bothered me is there's no you're telling us what we can do and what we got to and by that point everybody's running the same line like you want to talk about a one lane racetrack at this point okay guys everyone's going to get new tires here again there's going to be no tire saving just like all day i mean i think the tires were probably you know harder than this concrete floor here um there was no there was

it was the same thing i mean you come down you get tires we all get you have to take them and there's no okay well if you're in the back why don't you put the slicks on and maybe it'll come to you in a little bit that you can have a chance like we're all in the same like we've been doing this long enough at road courses they tell you when it's they tell you when it's your discretion at that point

whether you want to put them on or not and I think from the time you you know if you come back from a rain delay and they start you on wets I'm fine with everybody transferring over at the same time but from that point on it should be at your discretion, in my opinion, I think, because that leaves the strategy back into the teams.

Like, I don't know, the track was drying out. We're all in the same lane. You know, you want some passing, give somebody an advantage, you know, somehow. Or, you know, I just think it's, I think it needs to be opened up it. And maybe they will down the road. I didn't understand, you know, I didn't understand any of it, really, but I didn't understand when we had, I think, four sets of wets, right? Oh, we were going to use a Yeah, like you come down pit, like you have four, I can understand a little bit more of you want to control who's on wets and who's on slicks, which I still think is wrong. But if you've got four sets of wets, they should be yours to do whatever the hell you want with them. Like if you want to come down to, you know, even if it should have been, it was non-competitive pit stops, which I fully agreed with because pit road was wet and you don't want to, you don't want to have guys sliding around on pit road with people running around out there. But even non-competitive pit stops, we all know the rules.

If you come down pit road, you lose your track position, everybody that stays out. Yes. but you come off of pits first. You know, if you go on first, you're coming off first, whatever that is. And, I mean, you've got four set of tires. You should be able to use them whenever the hell you want. When it opens, you should have to put them on. Yeah, that should tell you can't.

Yeah, I mean, obviously, I think that, I think that you should, you know, you should be able to put slicks on. If you should, after we go to wet, it's wet. All right. Now, from this point forward, have at it. You know, whatever you want, you got to start, you've got to restart this race on wet tires. We're not going to race in the rain. So from there on, the track's not going to get worse. Yeah.

And I did see a bunch of people complaining about that yesterday about why are racing in the rain. We can't race in the rain at a place like that. You know, they don't have wipers, too much spray. They don't have the mud flaps like we have at the roadcourses. That's a lot of reasons. What an idiot. All the people that think rain tires mean we race in rain.

No, we cannot race in the actual rain. Yeah, not there. No. But without them, there's no more racing yesterday. No. I mean, the race is, without those tires, the race is over at lap, whatever that was, 230 or something like that. The race is over.

There's no chance. With no lightning, how quick would you go back? I mean, we started back about as fast as we could. You know, there was, we were, I think there was maybe a little bit more, like they canceled, which is interesting. The lightning clock is at 22 minutes and then it goes straight to zero for the NASCAR, the NASCAR not lightning clock. I did hear that the NBC lightning hold was still on for their cameramen and stuff to be in place,

but that ran out about 630 and we restarted at 643. I think they were still kind of trying to clean up some of the standing water on the front. So that we got back going, I think, as fast as we could. But if you don't, if you don't have them tires, it's another, I don't know, 45 minutes probably to dry it, I would say to get it completely dry. And then, so now you're looking at 730, 745. How dark was it at the end? I was in my car at the very end. But it was pretty dark from where I was sitting. T.J., I was it vision-wise. It was dark. At the end of that race, it was dark. That was one of the darkest endings that that I've been involved in.

Did they say they were only making one attempt? Did I hear that? I don't remember. Somebody had told me that on the plane that they said they were only going to be one. The cameras do such a great job of picking up the light, just like a scope if you're a hunter. Man, it didn't look dark on TV. And I'll say this about TV, LaTart once it got wet, once we were on rain tires,

man, he did a phenomenal job. I texted him after the race and told him of breaking everything down. Like the race man at home knew what was going. on because of Steve LaTart. Yeah. I'll tell you this. I'm still considering it as my, what an idiot is, it's raining,

and we're all down there at the bottom of elevator. And Netflix, Nick. You're going to get Nick again? Well, he's down there asking Soko how to cross the racetrack in a row. He's down there asking Soko how to cross the racetrack to get to like, you know, because he's worried about going to victory lane. Like, what an idiot. You know how to jinx yourself.

You better wait that out. It's probably my fault because. I told him I'm not driving him in there. He's been spoiled, so. I'm going to tell you what you do. You walk your ass through a tunnel. And listen, they were an average car yesterday and made a great call that in any other time.

A lot of them made great calls. Would have won the race. You know, they flipped the stage from 30 out and put tires on and stayed out of the stage break to inherit the lead. And I thought he was going to be a sitting duck, but he just kept catching cautions. Every time somebody got to him, he caught a caution, and it just dragged it into the rain. And now they're sitting there.

And like I said, every other year besides this year with these wet tires, he wins that race yesterday. So, I mean, good kudos to them are being really aggressive. And like you said, there's guys up in there. Todd Gillen and Ryan Burgundy yesterday were called an amazing race. Burgundy? Burgundy. It's Burgundy.

Is it European now? Yeah. But they, you know. So I told you it was Burgundy. I've known him for a long time. Whatever you say. Burgundy. I don't know.

I don't know. That's why I've always said it. That's how his name used to get announced at Stafford all the time. Ron. Ron Burgundy. But, I mean, he caused super aggressive race. A lot of two tires, a lot of staying out yesterday. Kept Todd in the front all day.

And he was going to have a top five at the end there if it rains. Justin Haley, another one was going to inherit. But Justin Haley was fast. Like, he wasn't just inheriting. He was passing guys up there. He was an eighth, 12th place car probably. But he was going to finish fifth if it rained. You know, there was a lot of guys in that top five that called a really good race right there.

So with all the changes in the variables yesterday, how big of a wind does this look like for Christopher Bell and Adam Stevens to have had to, you know, go through all of those scenarios, right? Yeah. The biggest thing for me was they didn't practice. The second that it was, I was giving Adam a shit yesterday because I said, what a coincidence. You, you MF NASCAR last week on the radio and the second you leave Pitt Road for practice, they put the yellow out for rain and he didn't get a lap, you know, and obviously he's probably

coincidental. But, you know, so they didn't practice. So even, you know, they, they, a lot of us got, I don't know, five or six laps in, something like that. Um, they got no laps. So, you know, that's one obstacle that I'd overcome. And then all they see all the, everything that happened yesterday in the race. He was, he, I felt like he was untouchable once we put the rain tires on. Like, he drove back to the, he drove right to the lead and it kind of drove away from everybody.

You're not, any of those guys that were going to be up there, like Blaney, Truex, Christopher Bell, any of those guys in the top five were going to be really hard to eat, Larsen, you're not going to get, Those guys are going to maintain. I don't care if the tracks got water running off of it still. Those guys are still going to be there. 22 playoff points second most of anybody in the standings. Where's he at in points? He's sixth, but he's tight, man.

Like he can still get a few spots for sure and get more playoff points. You look at Larson with 23, a bell with 22. That man, they're locking themselves into the final eight. Listen, he wasn't as dominant as he was at Gateway and Phoenix, but if they make it into the final four, Ryan Blaney and Christopher Bell have to be Christopher Bell first and foremost, and then Blaney's also been really good at these mile flat racetracks. Gateway, you know, Phoenix, obviously, earlier in the year.

You know, the, Bell was going to, Bell won Phoenix. He was going to win Gateway until his motor blew up. And now he wins this one. Obviously, this is a little different circumstance. He wasn't as dominant as he wasn't in those first two. But if he can get his way to Phoenix, he's got to go in as the favorite. It also puts him in a different scenario than normal, right? Because he would get to the playoffs and then kind of have to further himself

this kind of sets him up a little bit better. A lot better. Bubba and Brad guys struggling a little bit yesterday. What do you? Yeah, we were just off. We were, we were. We were good in the three laps in practice that we ran. Yeah. But I mean, yeah, other than that, we just, we've been, I think that's one of Brad's best tracks, too, and we're just off. I mean, you have them picked you in DBC picks, probably. Probably. Yeah, way to go. Yeah, we just off. Yeah, we were actually weren't bad. We were pretty good, I thought. We could move forward. We were able to pass when a lot of guys weren't able to pass in the beginning of the race.

We drove up from, I think we started 18th or 19th, drove up to like 13th. And then we were hovering, right, we were around 10th for the first of the second half, the first half of the second stage. And then we just got a little tight. And then once you get, once you get midpack, we put two tires on and some guys stayed out. So now you're a little further back than you want to be on two tires. And you kind of, once you get in the midpack on two and there's kind of guys right behind you on four, it's kind of a no man's land.

And we, we ended up getting. though we came out and we had guys start behind us with new tires and a couple of them got us and we passed them back and they had a lot more laps than our tires. We were, I think the problem is we were tight and then we put two tires on, which usually trends to make you tighter.

So that was just, you know, it's just a bad situation for us. And then, you know, we were pretty timid. You know, we were guarding ourselves. Joey's out of the race. The big thing was, you know, we're battle on the 22 and some other guys for the last playoff spot. Joey goes up, finish his. third in the first two stages.

So now he's got a 16 point gap on us. He makes all, he's jumped us. I think we were six ahead going in. He's jumped us. Now he's 10 ahead. Well, he wrecks. Now he's a couple laps down, three laps down. I know he's going to finish in the 30s.

So we're just, all right, let's get to the end of this thing. So we fell back probably. We were 14th when it rained. We fell back to like 28th. But then as Bubba got more comfortable and it started to dry out a little bit, we drove back up to about 15th.

And that's when obviously Noah cooked her into one there and just lost it. backed into us and not ruined our day. But we were going to come out. I think we were going to kind of break even. I think we were going to come right back out. We went in about six ahead. I think we were going to come out about seven ahead.

And now we're, I think, we're 13 behind or something like that. You watched the race? You watched. Yeah. No, I'm just sorry. I weren't talking about it. Never know with you. So apparently at some point in the race, they're doing,

I'm in this group chat that dissects the race. Drew Parker. I was going to say, Drew. So they do like, they were doing a spotter cam or something. Oh, Colman. Yeah, but they're running like top two or three. You know how much easier I restart? You can take a nap when you're up there and doing that.

We were four, one time, I said one inside, three outside off a turn two. Yeah. And like, I didn't think we were coming off. I didn't think we were going to make it. I must have been in that because I was five wide. Yeah, well, we were. Maybe. I was three.

There was three bottom. Is that we in there? Is that we? Is that we in there? Yeah. I'm in the second from the top. That was the five wide shot. Yeah.

Yeah. And like, I'm like, oh, gosh, this is not. And they, you'll never. ever unless it's wet hear that again in New Hampshire no dude but like the restarts are like crazy but I want to hear like if you're going to do a spot I want to hear them do the restart where he goes out there

and cleans out chase I want to hear that one that's the one I want to hear and listen you know we've we've harped on this forever but what a coincidence when you slow the corner speeds down how much better the racing is wow you stop to make the corner I mean when you have to lift and actually drive it makes the racing it's like we were right all alone who knew

So I wish we could just run on rain tires on the dry. Rain tires on the dry? Well, we did that on Saturday when we started the infinity race. Yeah. You did it at the end of the race, too. Honestly, it was fun. I wasn't there for that part. Yeah, he wasn't there.

It was actually pretty fun. So listen, yesterday was the best example of those rain tires because every other time we've done it, the track has been pretty dry. Too dry. Too dry. Like even the Xfinity race, I didn't understand what the hell was going on because the modified race ended and it was not raining. it wasn't wet.

It was, it had, maybe there was a little shower there. I can't remember, but there was no track drying. And I'm like, I was like, one of the officials there, I was like, are you not trying to track here for the Xfinity race? And they're like, well, I think we're going to start on the wets. And it's like they were just determined to start that race on the wets for some reason. And then we just go in there, run 10 laps for a thriller caution and take the wet tires off. And it's like, that was, that seemed really pointless.

Yesterday they were absolutely needed. And we wouldn't, we wouldn't have started without them. You should hear NASCAR on the radio, but when it's raining out. You know how normally they're like, all right, jet dryer, you stage over here. It is, you turn your radio off and on a couple times and make sure it's still on because there's dead silence. Is it not? It's so quiet on the radio. But they do, I mean, man, I'll give them credit.

They got it exactly. They make one pass with them. What do they call them? Air Tundras or whatever. Yeah, Tundras. And that track's basically ready. What kind of racing would we have seen had it not been on? I mean, the same that we'd be the same.

And listen, I thought a track widened out more yesterday than it ever had in the past. I don't ever really remember running above that. You know, used to the last couple of years they had sprayed the racetrack. So you ran the bottom lane or that third lane and you would run like a diamond, try to go from the third to the bottom on exit. Yesterday we were, I mean, there was a couple of times Larson was up by the wall in the center, running a really big diamond. It was, it was widening out, but it was still really tough to pass, just like it always is there.

Moving on to the Xfinity race. I've talked a little bit about it. The Sheldon Creed, this is his 10th runner-up finish. got to feel for him a little bit. That's a lot. That's a lot of seconds. I mean, I mean, there's a couple he probably should have won in there, probably more than a couple. Yesterday, like I said, I thought, or Saturday, I thought he was going to clear Bell off of two if the double zero doesn't give him a little bit of payback for what he did off of four. So, you know, it's just a lot of times when he finished a second, it's because he's, he's kind

of been aggressive or maybe a little overaggressive at times. But I mean, he's going to, I think he's going to find victory lane somehow. If you keep putting yourself in position this many times, It's bound to happen, I think. Yeah. We got really lucky with that late caution. We were on pit road when the caution came out. We ran about 20-25 laps longer than anybody else. And we were going to blend right out in front of the double zero, right as the caution come out.

We were going to be okay still. But, I mean, that just cycled us to P2 because Jesse stayed out and Carson beat him on the restart. And if I think if it stays green there, we probably finished top three. Yeah. I have to be a bit of a homer for a second. My boy, Justin, Bons, Newark, did an unbelievable job, I thought fast. for no for not having any practice going out there they did they made a great pit call set just flipped one of the stages got him track position and he ran you know bell got the lead obviously

bell's never lost in the infinity race there um he got the lead justin stayed probably i don't know half a straight o'er or so behind him the whole run got lost a little more track position on the next pit stop you know and you you don't notice stuff like this because it you know it like you if you're not maxing out your pit lights a lot you're going to lose tenths of a second that's going to be the difference and, you know, getting, you know, a couple guys beating you off pit road. So, you know,

Justin, first time pinning, he did a, he had the sketchiest pit road entry of the day on the green flag stop. Oh, yeah. He was, sideways. But got it done, got it slowed down.

I was like, oh, please don't get a penalty. But, yeah, I thought he did a great job. He, no practice. He went up there. He passed guy, you know, he passed Sheldon Creed.

He passed Chandler Smith. That movie made on Chandler in 3 and 4 was unbelievable on the outside. So, you know, just a great day for him and a great showing for him. It's a kid I know him, basically, whole life since he's been running. How do you say his last name again?

Bonsignor. He, uh, I thought I was like, looked on phonics Freddie today. It's not like Bonsignore or something. I mean, uh, I mean, if there's a track that he's going to go to, uh, to run that he could be most comfortable at and probably get up the speed the quickest is probably loud. So, but he, you know, he did a great job.

Yeah. For sure. And this is not a kid that like somebody just threw a bunch of money at him and he went out there and race. He, I don't know, he probably doesn't want me to share this, but he basically kind of funded this himself or or you know how to go around and pull some money together to do this it wasn't like he's got a pretty good job but uh he you know he he he worked and clawed at this i know he reached out the bread about trying to get him some help for you know for some sponsorship so you know

this is something he he did a good job of getting this opportunity and then making the most of it i thought i called him on saturday night as a man i i really don't get where you finished that was that was a really impressive run for sure yeah a lot of interesting racing happening this weekend at loudon Of course, a lot of interesting news breaking this week. We'll get to all those topics coming up on spot on, spot off. Spot on, spot off. Spot off. Spot off.

Spot on. It was super fun yesterday to ride around there. I am spot off. Damn. Where do you come from? All right, let's get on to spot on, spot off. And our first one is Stuart Haas racing announced Gene Haas will retain one SHR charter for a new entity. The name is going to be Haas Factory, team. We'll also have a two-car Xfinity program and will operate out of the current

SHR facility. Joe Custer is going to run that operation. Brett, you want to start us off? Color may surprise. I think when we originally talked about these charters being for sale, I thought Gene, if he were going to sell any, he would keep two and can keep a two-car team. I'm surprised at this because a one-car team is really difficult to be successful. It changes the economics of it greatly. And what I mean by that is, you know, if you have a central office of people, they can do a lot of the same jobs for two, three, and four car teams versus just one car team. So the expense of owning a one car cost more money. Also, no factory support is probably my biggest concern here for them going out and being competitive, which has been

a few years since they won anyway. So I do think from a business perspective, he's always leveraged his motorsports programs to increase his business, whether it be global with F1 or here in the U.S. with NASCAR. So maybe that's what makes the most business sense for him. When we were talking about this fourth charter, you know, RFK was in talks, potentially of picking it up. Richard Childers Racing was in talks of picking it up. And for me, the thing there is those are, you know, Tier 1 OEM teams. So clearly I think that charter is more competitive if it's farmed out to those teams, but obviously that's not happening. He's keeping it in-house. We know that Joe is already doing a lot of stuff for Exfinity teams. So it makes business sense for that

operation to carry on. I'm here at Ryan Preece's name as a potential driver there. So overall, I guess I'm I guess I'm spot on because at least he's sticking around. You know, his legacy doesn't just die. Yeah, it seemed to me like like something here between front row and SHR didn't come to fruition as TJ would like to say. Frotition. You know, they seemed like there was a deal in place where they were going to get a charter. They were going to take over the building. Now they're not taking over. And now they're not taking over the building. I heard, I heard some rumors about, you know, some of the stuff, some of the redundancies maybe not being agreed to, like, you know, they wanted to lease their Hawkeye, you know, SHR wanted to lease

their Hawkeye to have, you know, front row. Well, front row owns a Hawkeye. So why would they, you know, so some of that stuff seemed like, airplanes. They couldn't come to, you know, they couldn't come to terms on. Um, but, you know, it's, it's, it's, like you said, it's good for, it's good for that deal. Um, you know, it's weird. It's, it seems like, like you said, this was, we thought this was charter was going somewhere else. You know, there. It seemed like when the announcement came out, it was, we're done, we're closed up shop, and all of a sudden something's changed in that process where Joe, and we had heard rumors that they were trying to keep at least one charter, maybe for Joe, and who knows, I also don't

think this automatically means, I saw a lot of speculation that this is, oh, this is Coles ride now. I don't necessarily think that that's true. I think that, I think that's a very good chance still Cole still goes the front row. But it'll be interesting to see how that plays out. And you had to your point, the Xfinity teams, you know, there's room there. I've heard rumors of maybe priests. I heard yesterday. I kind of heard that get debunked a little bit yesterday. I heard Harrison Burton's name come up there a little bit. So it's going to be interesting to see what happens. But yeah, it's definitely good for them to stay. You know, for somebody like Gene Haas and Joe Custer to stay in the sport is a win-win for us. Yeah, this has been the weirdest sale of a team

that, I mean, it's been weird. There's been so many different, so many different buyers. And then this is changing and then that's changing. It's not, I don't know if I've ever seen anything go like this before. But yeah, spot on for him staying in the sport and keep the name going. Well, you know, like we talked about, we've been talking about silly season for, it feels like two months now. And it just keeps getting a little sillier. It seems like, you know, we thought, you thought last week you had a little bit, or a couple weeks ago, you had a little bit of a better idea what the picture is going to look like, you know, this, the only thing that was really out there was where this other charter was going to go. And if it was going somewhere

like an RCR, that was going to be for Noah. If it was going to be a front row, that was going, I mean, for a roush, that was probably going to be for a different driver, you know. So, like, you kind of had an idea of where this charter is going to end up. All right, that's who's going to be there. Oh, now it stays at Haas, and you're like, okay, well, now what? You know, you've got three or four different Ford teams now. If Justin Haley, we were heavily rumored to go to the 21. He comes out an interview last week and says he's committed to Rick Ware for five,

10 years, whatever Rick wants to do. So who knows where that's going to go. If Haley stays in the 51, now you've got the 21, the 34, the 36. I don't know what the hell number they're going to be in front row. And now the Stewart Hoss car, that's four cars with, you know, three drivers. essentially four drivers you know if you got custer graxon berry riley herpes name out there priest i guess you know barrisen burton you know it was good to see justin come out and and say that i mean those guys have so much

momentum right now and what they're building i think um i think it's in all their best interests to keep building on it and and uh got a good young crew chief that's learning um they're obviously showing that they're willing to put the pieces in there that to get what they need to go fast and man if you take the last month and to have, Justin Haley is probably a top five, top five point car right now. So if you're, if you're Gene Hoss and look, Gene Hoss, Joe Kuster, I might call it decisions on this. What crew chief are you keeping? What driver are you keeping? I mean, if you had your option, if you just right now, I think you have to keep Rodney and

Josh, like that's, in my opinion. They're running the best, you know, and I was going to bring this up a little bit later, you know, you're getting to the point in the season where you need to win. You know what I mean? And there's some crew chiefs in that garage that know how to massage. on some things to get a little more speed out of it. Listen, we're all cheating. Every car on the racetrack's illegal. You know what I mean? Or I'm sorry, you know, maybe pushing the boundaries, whatever you want to say.

But there's some guys that we've seen in the past that know how to find speed and must-win. I mean, I can remember was it Dover? Harvick was a must-win situation and he went out there and kicked our ass. You know what I mean? And so there's guys that know how to massage on things and make them faster. And Josh, the last, we're getting to the point where we need to win. And Josh has been in position to win in the last two weeks, really. He's a caution away from winning Iowa.

and yesterday, you know, in the dry, he was one of the two, top three, top four cars, you know. Yeah, he was really good to wet. Even at the end there, I think, before the last yellow, he was questionably close enough to make a move. Whether it sticks or not, I don't know. But if I'm Rodney Chilters, you're going to pay me a lot of money to stay there. Yeah. Oh, for sure. I'm not staying there for the same amount of money I'm making.

Yeah, well, you know, like if your options are basically, you know, Rodney, who you got Rodney, Boswell and Chad. Chad and Drew. Chad's out, right? They're not running well enough to even be considered. I would imagine, unless you don't have an eye, you're going to keep him because you don't got anybody else. You know, out of the four, he's probably the lowest.

If Briscoe's leaving, you know, then, you know, if, it depends on who's the driver is, I'm assuming. If Gregson stays, maybe he wants to keep Drew, but I don't know how you would let Rodney leave if you have the option to keep him. But if I'm any of them, crew chiefs and I stay, you're going to pay me a hundred grand more than I'm making now. Oh, and would you stay? Well, even then, like, for a hundred grand more, yeah.

Yeah. Is it as simple that, As Gene just changed his mind, though, do you think? He can. He can do whatever he wants. Would a B, what a capital B. There's no owner in the sport with more wealth than Gene Hoss. Partly because he didn't get married, didn't have kids.

And like I said, I think there was deals on the table. Carla knows what I mean. There's deals on the table that, you know, if that deal with front row gets done and they don't have a building to race out of, then this probably looks a lot different. And, you know, we had heard the X-FINITY team was always going to stay in Custer's control and move down to, like, the F-1 shop or something. Well, now you've got this cup shop and maybe like, all right, well, if we don't have a deal to get rid of this, we might as well keep a charter and run. The charter's going to probably, if you could sell it this year, you can sell it next year, whatever you want to do, it's going to be the same probably. So it's just, you know, it's going to be interesting to see how it plays out.

All right. Moving on. Moments before the rain delay, Kyle Larson and Denny Hamlin were racing close and Hamlin pinched Larson up near the wall. Larson spotter Tyler Mon said he runs you like that every time because you let it happen. Larson's response was shut the F up. Brett. So I was actually at the same place as Larson's wife yesterday when this happened and I showed her the message because Matt Weaver had, he was the first guy I saw that twigling it out. And so she read it out loud and I was crying laughing. Listen, this isn't this isn't necessarily good, right? It's good if you're,

Freddie Kraft and Bubba Wallace because you're buddies and you go way back. You're good if it's Elliot Sadler, Brett Griffin, T.J. Majors, Dale Jr. I don't know Tyler Mon's relationship with Kyle Larson. If they're buddies, this is okay. It's two buddies talking, and I mean, I tell Freddy shut up all the time. So it's okay, but if you're not buddies and you really pissed him off right there because you're insinuating, you're not a good enough driver. Hey, this is Kyle Larson, by the way.

You know what I mean? This isn't, I'm not going to say another guy's name because people are so sensitive in the world today. But this this this could go spot off really, really quickly, Carla. Like you don't want to deteriorate your relationship. And listen, I sat beside Kevin Hamlin, the spotter, not the crew chief, Kevin Hamlin, years ago. And he was so pissed off at Clint Boyer over something that was said over the radio. And he typed this long message. And I was like, Kevin don't send that. And he's like, I'm sending it. I said, dude, God, it makes a hundred grand a year. Can't text a guy. It makes 10 million a year. You, you, you, you,

you got to take your blows sometimes. He's like, I'm going to, I ain't taking it. So he hits sending on the message, and I was like, well, this is going to go one or two ways. You're going to either get Clint's respect or he's going to tell you to fuck off. And he got Clint's respect. So I don't know where this goes. I'm not trying to make a soap opera out of this, Freddie. Weird.

But this could be a thing. Yeah, they're good enough buddies. I think that it's not that big a deal. To your point, me and Bubba just had it out at, I don't even know where the hell it was, Bristol or something. and we were trying to roll around with a flat tire and I was just feeding him information about just get to the end and he's like, well, you just shut the fuck up? And I said, 10-4, shut and a fuck up.

You know, and he said, I'd just laugh for two laps after you said that. You know, so like, say, you can't take it to heart. And this, but I'll tell you what, it did, this did not have the playful shut the up, uh, the response. This sounded like it touched the nerve somewhere. And maybe it touched the nerve because Kyle knows Tyler might be a little right. You know, I feel like. you know, Kyle has come out of the bad side of some of these runnings with Danny.

He lost that race at Kansas when Denny, you know, kind of packed air on him and got him in the fence. And, you know, so, you know, it definitely didn't seem like it touched a little nerve there, but I'm sure they'll be fine. Yeah, I don't know. There's, I mean, what would you do now? T.J. would a pile to defeat a bit. Well, not over that. He threw his headset off the roof and stormed off.

Not over that. Now, when the guy changed his mind six times a race and then you do exactly what he says, and he says, don't do that again. and then then you get really mad and that's when you that's when that happened yesterday that's when you no that's what happened with del jr one time that's when i quit spotting and uh and then he he passed a guy and i didn't even clear it means like oh i see how it's going to be i'm like yeah but see that's how two buddies can do it yeah yeah yeah i mean but i don't know i don't i don't see it carrying on i don't even know if it it's probably already kind of squashed if not kyle knows there's a lot of guys

you can call that will probably take that job. I'm in a Netflix Nick. I'm in a contract year, by the way. Yeah, me too. We're all in contract year, as Kyle. I've got a price.

Yeah, I don't know. I think Tyler did it. I think Tyler's terrible. I'm just kidding. I'd fire that guy tomorrow. I wouldn't let him talk to you like that. I wouldn't take that. I would not take that, Kyle.

It's hot in here now. I think high limits is awesome. Man, all right. Moving on. After Michael McDowell's move late in the race, that ended his day, along with Ryan Blaney's McDowell found Blaney after to apologize. Blaney had this to say. Apologies are nice, but it isn't going to bring back what he did. It was a low percentage move. What do you think was going to happen? You're going to take both of us out. Take T.J. I've been there before with him. This is not the first time this situation is to come up. I'm spot off. I just don't think it's you can't go in there and take yourself out too I mean you got to you got to make moves I get it but you can't keep taking yourself out like this is this is two times in what the last month maybe whenever talbot a half whenever taladega was like that was really low percentage move as well and you still you know I'm not saying I know he's pretty much in a must win but if he comes out of Talladega with the top two or three and come comes out of Loudon with a top two or three. And who knows, man, then you, that you're getting on a hot street kind of at the right time.

Maybe you win next week. I don't know. But I just don't think you can keep taking yourself out in these situations. Yeah. Can you imagine if Ryan had not gotten a win at Iowa, what this would be like? Yeah. You know, you, like, last week we weren't very critical of Kyle Larson making an aggressive move because I didn't feel like that was a low percentage move right up until, you know, he ended up getting wrecked.

this was you weren't this wasn't going to work that you could not drive in deep enough on the bottom it there was it looked like there was a little bit of moisture down there still like every time we ran the bottom we lost a nose really bad um so you know this is a really low percentage move and all you have to do is you can't take yourself out you can't this is not going to work you know so yeah but you know you wreck him you wreck yourself and all you have to do is look to saturday you know the third place guy in the middle of three and four coming to the white flag is the guy that the race. You know, if you, if you live the race another corner, you'd get in there

behind Blaney, let Blaney go up there and race Bell and you don't know what could happen. You know, they might hand you a win, but now what's not, what's not going to happen is now you're, you know, I think he finished 15th, but he's, you know, last on a restart with three to go, you're not winning from there. You've got a much better chance of winning, let them front row guys get together and

hope they maybe hand you one, but you go in here and clean everybody out. That's your least. Hallardica. Eladega, running fifth. That's where they, that's where the video they watched showed where they needed to be. I mean, you just, like we always said, Danny Harps on a battle all the time, especially plate racing. Like, live to race another corner, don't throw the extra block. But, you know, same thing in this.

Like, it was just an unnecessary move at that. It was like, it's like throwing a Hail Mary on third down with a minute left. You know what I mean? There's still more game to be played. You still got other options. You don't need to go for it all right here. But he doesn't, he doesn't see that. He sees when and I'm in, he sees, I got to make this pass, or I won't have a shot to win

because he knew how good Blaine he was. I don't fault him for trying the move. I fault him for not being able to finish the move. I watched Chandler Smith do the same thing on Saturday. He's driving in over his head on corner entry trying to maintain that inside spot when you know the outside lane has the advantage. Sometimes you just got to be smarter,

but it's hard for these guys, man. They're racing. I'm 100% spot off because this cost me DBC picks. I was going to have an easy win, and Michael McDowell that completely up. I mean, it messed Aladego for some too, so I mean, that's the way you live.

How's his teammates feeling? I mean, this is his last year with front row, too. Yeah, I mean, they're wanting him to go for it. You know, they're wanting that. They probably commend that. But at the same time, you just, you need to pick a better spot.

You know, if that's further, you know, if that's in there underneath Bell, you know what I mean? Because Bell was leading, right? At the time, this was for second. Yeah, this was for second. You know, so, you know, if that's the last lap, and that's Bell you're underneath or you're even trying to get the Bell's bumper on the last lap.

I get it, but it was still a couple laps to go. You had no, we have always talked about this, T.J. on here, like, whoever has the nose ahead is going to dictate where you go. And if you can't, you know, he's sliding to his door and he's only about halfway, three quarters away in there, you know, you're just at the mercy of that guy up top. You're going to get free because you've got no side force now. It's just, it was just like a low percentage. There's basically no chance it was going to work unless you just get a little bit further

in there and knock the Blaney up the racetrack. just it just didn't work out. Last restart, two Stuart Hoskars right there on top of Bell, and Bell absolutely yards them. Yeah, I was watching. I was staging the car at that point, but he run like eight-tenths faster than them on that coming to the white. That's a spot that I thought, all right, both of these guys are in must-wins. You got Barry, you got Briscoe, they're in must-wins. And I said on the show last week, I almost picked Briscoe of my picks because I said, this guy's going to have to prove he's worthy of this 19 car, if that's who's getting in it. And Man, they didn't even have a shot at him.

I haven't seen a replay the last restart, but I know, TJ, you probably noticed. The bottom lanes launched yesterday was terrible. Yesterday and Saturday was awful. You couldn't even stay next to the leader. It was not even a chance. He was half a second up, start finish line. So it was over.

Yeah, it was over before they got turned one. All right, moving on. This is very interesting. Discussed on the teardown last night, but the playoff schedule, possible changes reported by Jordan Bianchi. Atlanta, Watkins, Glenn, and Homestead are out New Hampshire Gateway and Darlington are in. Freddie, your eyes got big. Yeah, we talked about here on last week and I said there was going to be one surprise coming out and two surprises

going in. And for me, Homestead, Homestead is the surprise coming out. You know, I think a lot of people were, they're clamoring for that to be the finale race. And not only is it not the finale going forward, it's not even in the playoffs anymore. You know, the rumors you hear are, you know, Darlington we knew was going to go back in. It only came out this year because of the way the calendar laid and the weeks laid out. And just Labor Day weekend just happened to be a week earlier this year. So it took it out of the playoffs. It's going right back in.

Daytona's going right back to the regular season cutoff. What I did here was obviously they took Atlanta out. Atlanta was in. They're going out. So now they had to replace an SMI track. The options I heard were Texas and Loudon. I think they picked the right one if we're going to Loudon. And maybe that's based, I mean, a great crowd yesterday.

We, we, the Northeast fan bases, they come out every time. Every time we get up there, Pocono, Dover, place like that, there's a lot of people there. So that probably played a big factor in it. Plus, the racing at Texas, obviously probably wouldn't have been good optics if we just took it out of the playoffs and we put it right back in. I just hope that when we go back to Loudon, that we can get back to where they, we wear it the heck out of the time. Yeah, for sure. We got to. The other stuff was, obviously, Watkins, Watkins Glenn's interesting to me.

It comes out of the playoffs before it ever gets a chance to host a playoff race. You know, like they host their first one this year. And now who knows what the crowd's going to look like and whatnot, but now they're coming right out. Replaced with Gateway. I heard... Walkins Gun is going to sell out. It doesn't matter if it's going in February or September.

And TV, what I understand, TV wanted the St. Louis market. So that's why Gateway's going in there. They had some scheduling, too, with Indie cars going at a certain time, I think. I'm okay with the playoffs changing tracks, but this smells like a fart of sleeping back. Like this just does not get me excited. You got three flat miles in the playoffs? I mean, this just does not excite me at all. No, it stinks.

The one thing that I know people are going to flip out about Homestead, and Homestead puts on great racing, but unfortunately, nobody shows up. Like, whether it's... But there's, there's, listen, we're not going to pull the Miami crowd to Homestead. And there's nothing else down there. No. Where are you going to come from? Key West.

There's nothing around Homestead. Yeah, but I'm just saying like you got to pull the country people out. The reason why Phoenix continues to get the damn championship race is because it's sold out every time we go. And then for whatever reason, we can't get people to go to Homestead. I don't know how this helps. It's not going to help by taking it out of the playoffs. I did see some rumors that they said that maybe they're running earlier in the year next year

so they can get some renovations done for 2026. Maybe they have a chance of getting the finale race back then, which it does need some renovations. It's kind of getting old and tired. so maybe they can, maybe they can pump some money into it, bring it back, and bring that what's what brings the people back.

But I know there's going to be some unhappy people about Homestead coming out of the playoffs next year. Kyle Larson probably being one of them. Yeah, Reddick, Larson. Reddick, Larson. I mean, all of that. Who won there last year? Bell, right?

I think Bell won. That's where Larson cowed the pit wall, right? It's behind Belaining. Yeah, it was. But yeah, so it'll be interesting to see. I knew this last week, and that's why I teased it on here because I figured people were going to go nuts.

Nobody. everywhere I saw gas and there's a lot of people that Loudon and Gateway people started putting together the Gateway deal because of the handicart schedule. A lot of people some people knew about Loudoun already but the homestead coming out one I think is caught a little bit of people off guard. Weather coming into play

for a lot of these decisions too. It seems like TJ are you spot on spot off for it? Yeah I mean I'm spot on right now we'll see how it goes. I mean you never know I think the right the tracks that we're putting in there have the ability to put on good shows. So, I just, the only thing I just, like you want, I feel like you want a variety,

a variety of tracks. And now we have, I don't know how it's going to lay out, like what's going to be in what round, but you've got three, like I said, three flat miles, three of the same, similar race track in the, in 10 races, you know. I would like to see Charlotte, the big track instead of, the only thing. I would hope that, which it's, I thought that that was going to happen. I don't know if it is or isn't. But if you take Wock and's going to.

Glenn out and then you switch that back to the Oval. Now you've got no road course in the playoffs. The road is the only one in the playoffs. So I would assume that's going to stay the Oval now, but I don't know for sure. It's just, it's, who knows? I don't think it's going to go over well. No, we'll fight it. Listen, I don't think no matter what you do, it's going to go over well.

So, I mean, honestly, it doesn't really matter. Well, I just think that it's like the fan reaction. Every time you see any poll, we've done it on DJD Reloaded, you see a poll about what should the playoff, what should the final race be? I mean, it's overwhelmingly. Homestead. And Hopsted does put on a great race, but that's not everything. Like Brett says, that's because people want to watch it on TV. And now, if those people all said, okay, I want that race and start going to that race, it might be the last race. Last race should move. The last race

should not be saying every freaking year. Because I don't want it to be home. I love Homestead. I don't want, you, you shouldn't have an advantage. And like, listen, Kyle Larson, Tyler Redick, those guys have an advantage at Homestead, whether, you know, whether other guys can learn it by watching SMT data or not is one thing. But those guys have a clear advantage when we go to that race track. Christopher Bell. Bell actually, believe it or not, is not the best running the wall. Well, you know, I thought, you know, he does a good job of it.

By no means he bad at it. But he's, I think them other guys are a little bit, you know, a little bit different league than him. I mean, Larson and Reddick can get, I mean, one, Reddick, what? Two Infinity Championships? You know, where I thought he wasn't the best car in the race, but he just got outroves. Yeah, two different teams. Yeah, two different teams, out of everybody. So it'll be interesting, but I agree with you.

like it should move or it should rotate or at least be that three race playoff we always talk about. All right. Well, we got Reaction Theater coming up next. Now it's time for one of our favorite segments on DBC, Reaction Theater, where it's your turn to be heard. Reaction Theater is brought to you every week by Consumer Cellular. Consumer Cellular has fast, reliable nationwide covered as the leading carriers, but with plans as low as $20 a month. And now for a limited time, get their best deal of the year. By any phone when you switch to consumer cellular and get two months of free service.

write the same fast, reliable nationwide coverage as big wireless, now with two months free. Proof, the best things in life really do come in to. See ConsumerSylor.com for promotional details. Jay, let's go to the call. Come on in, man. All right, we're going to go ahead and knock out your midseason review today. We're going to go over some things you're doing great, some things you can work on. Overall, I'm impressive how you present.

So you're not up the DBC guys' asses like Andrew is with Dale Jr. And we really appreciate that about you. Some things you can work on, just express yourself, man. Don't be afraid to tell PJ's son or just tell Brett to shut up. Before you go, just gonna ask you some questions, see how you're like in your new position here at DBC. First question. All right. How would you rate Casey's cleanliness in the studio since working alongside her?

Do you think it'll get worse with baby number two on the way? Or do you feel like she's just kind of plateaued as a slob? Question two. Question two. On average, how many of TJ's lip snacks would you say you edit out each week? Do you feel like you need to leave water bottles at his chair? And lastly, what do you think has more negative impact on the podcast? How much Freddy strokes Danny Hamlinoff or how often Brett correct other people's grammar then shows us incompetence how he pronounced as McVee and water.

It's called glazing. I really appreciate your time here and I feel like you do it in a great job. Just please. Don't turn into any of the... Don't turn into, like, any of the other past f*** heads. And I think you'd be really good for the show. And fuck me, I've had too many beers. I can't fucking walk.

I had no idea. Noticed. Jay, are you enjoying your new job? So far, to answer the question about the lipsmacks, I think it's about 20 to 30 a show. But thanks to Evan, he brought some re-Cola for TJ. I think that's been working. Lipsmacks.

Yeah, but you, I've been watching the whole show. You've been popping in those recall. It's been working. I've only got three throat clearing so far. It's because I took it at 1 o'clock in the morning. You just snort out every week. I don't think you take it that way. Yeah, I don't think you take it.

Wow. I don't take it that way. I think it's going to make it worse. That's what somebody I claim they did. And for the record, I think Casey's the cleanest out of three. You haven't flown with her. Yeah, I have no idea. Really?

I don't ever leave garbage. Oh, my God. You leave your rundown every shirt. I get your paper every week. Your rundown never moves. Everybody else kicks their rundowns up. No, I get it. If it moves.

Yeah. I have to clean, or if Brett doesn't get it, I grab it. Then how am I the mess if you don't have to do anything? Because he doesn't always grab it. That's not what he said. He says he always grabbed it. I'm never grabbing it again. I don't think that guy liked me.

You didn't really mention me much. Stroking. Oh, here we go. Oh, no. Well, it's a beautiful day at the train. Sounds like the wedding singer. I ain't even had time to climb out of the car And they're already in my face

I know I promise they might be better than this I promise next time I'd race with class I promised him man to man But then I dumped him ass. Ross, Regan with Fox Sports. Can you tell us what happened out there? Yeah, sure, Regan. Well, I damn near, I don't know one. I almost passed him in two, but then I gasped it in three, and I know more bumper nailed his ass in four. Right foot never left the floor there's more.

Face, I could have passed him with grace, but I died bombed his ass in more. Lomper nailed his S in four. I will say, Not a bad day. You're back next week. Okay. So, production value,

great. I have no idea what the hell that song was about. I think it's about Ross trying to make a pass. Was he trying to wreck somebody? I don't know. I tell you who.

To the floor. Did you see the video I sent you this morning of Ross coming down across Justin Haley's nose? I haven't opened it yet. He missed the corner a little bit slid up off the bottom.

I'll tell you. And Justin was committed. He glazed the hell out of his bumper. So we got that call about a week and a half ago, and this guy has been trying to send it to me that entire time, because he sent it in through the text line. And I was like, it doesn't sound clean enough like it was super garbled. So he finally figured out a way to send it to record it and send it.

It's still close. He puts so much effort into it. I'm like, all right, we'll try to work it into the show. I mean, it's, yeah. Keep digging. Yeah, great effort. Give us another one. Yeah. Can I have maybe a, a,

a title of the song or what it's about first? What are you watching? Justin Haley Rick Ross-Jess-Name. Just runs right through the back of it. Glaze his bumper. He's meat riding. All right. What do we got this?

No, that's Sam Mayer. He's an idiot. He threw it down in the... Unseigneur. What a shame. Didn't deserve it. Little Sammy Mayor. What an idiot.

What a cry, baby. Crying because he gets no calls from... Is Donald Trump? No cup teams. No one gets less calls than him. What a shame. Dale Jr. should send him to Mexico, or at least down to ARCA.

Sam Mayer, what a baby. What an idiot. This is funny. This is definitely not a guy from the modified series. Well, it's Trump. Yeah, Donald Trump against it. If it's AI or somebody actually doing it, though. I would assume that's AI.

And listen, I was, I don't know. I'm pretty sure it was Sammy that got Justin, or Sammy at least had him jacked up the way to the corner and then mayor might have come in and that was definitely not alan iverson you don't think that was him no that was don't know that was don't that wrecked justin right there that was this honestly it just got i don't think sam came i don't think sam mayor came up much at all i think he came up enough to wreck him well i think honestly i think justice started closing the door not thinking not knowing there was two cars there was enough room for three cars there i don't i mean

justin to me i'd have to go back and look at it again justin look at justin wasn't in control the Of course, Sam had it, Sammy had them jacked up on entry. And then it looked at me like Sam came in here. Diving to the apron in turn one is pretty much going to happen. Low percentage. Well, I mean, but it happens almost every restart, even the cup cars. I mean, everyone dives down there. And really what you're hoping to do is you're hoping that everyone in the second or third lane

needs each other up and then you clear him before the exit. Well, you see the front inch travel. And then you're like, if the back end doesn't stick, we're wrecking. Yeah. I mean, that was what, three, four wide, Freddie? It was when Sam got in there was four. Yeah, and the two in the middle started meeting, and that's where they were meat riding.

Yo, TJ, you just quit spotting? What happened, majors? Were you in a porta potty like Brett with Elliot Sadler? What's going on? You just dumped Chooke's because he's retiring? Come on, man. Do better. Norther.

Just want to Martin remember me. That guy's from Jersey. Yeah, you can tell. Listen, man. Why'd you do that? What did you tell him? Our car was bad. Did she tell him to hit him?

We're trying to hang on to it back there and maintain the best we can. And I think Briscoe got on the outside. And when he got on the outside of Martin, it kind of, it's one of the moves where you weren't expecting the guy to jump up there and get there. And when he got outside of Martin, Martin kind of, I think Martin jerked to the left a little bit quicker than what. I don't know. I think you were two lanes off the bottom when you were three.

Well, Martin forced the middle, and he was being too aggressive. And then the 14 crowded him, which crowded us, and then we hit him. How's that go? You got it pretty good. It's not our fault. It was definitely someone else's fault. For sure. Freddie Kraft macaroni and cheese.

You couldn't get Bubba in the pitch doll. Come on, man. Come on, Freddy. I don't understand, man. What's going on? Oh, T.J., by the way, it's not raining here. So maybe you'll test a little crank. And nothing to the rain.

It doesn't, never really cranks, right? Yeah, that was in my garage, buddy. I don't know. Rain or shine, if that was going to matter there. I would pay to see a Tesla, what do they call that truck? Cybertruck. Cybertruck. Yeah.

I would pay to see 40 of them out there at Loudden raising each other. I don't pay for that. I don't know what happened on pit road. You just pay for one for me. I'll take. Yeah. I don't know. How much are they going for?

I don't think, I don't know. You got it, though. Probably not cheap. No. And there's just like a waiting list, I'm sure, forever. Yeah. A waiting list is probably worse than the price. People are selling their request.

Right? I think that's what a lot of people are like buying the getting a waiting spot and sell it like, you know, to somebody else. Yeah. Yeah, I don't know what happened on pit road. I think our car was wrecked. We stopped a couple of balls, it's all short. I thought your battery died. That's what it looked like.

I think he just couldn't drive it anymore. It was tore up pretty good. Yeah. That's what I thought. Then somebody jumped you off and then you drove just fine. Just got somebody fired back up. Hey, I don't know if I should admit this, but, uh, I'm. still have my V-card.

But I assume the first night is a lot like that race. Things are kind of exciting. Is he talking about what I'm doing? And action is good, but nobody really knows what's going on. And when things get wet, you're really confused. You're not sure if you'll be able to come get new rubbers. But overall, it was a good time. Carla, welcome to our fan base.

Don't know me. Yeah, no comment. Did he say V-card? Yeah. Yeah, yeah. What's that mean? He's a virgin. I thought he worked for Venturini.

I don't think that's it. Fly to V. That was, yeah. I mean, he pretty much nailed it. That's what he thought. Nobody really. No, he hasn't. He hasn't yet.

Oh, he hasn't nailed it. This is your area, break. Give him some advice. Don't. Don't. Let him go. Okay, whatever's getting ready to come out next. I'm going to get a top drop.

Get a re-cola. What are you going to do? So there's Gleet and. There's a few ways this can go. How much money you got? I mean, it's so hot here. I'm trying.

I mean, I probably handle business before you leave for the date. I feel like my face is as red as bells right after he said Chase's name the other day. You watch that video. You can literally watch his face change colors. Like,

it's like a cartoon. Okay, guys. Hear me out. All short tracks. You put some sprinklers around the track, and you keep water on it. Constantly, we run the rain tires. Because this is the best racing of the day right here, these last few laps. I mean, good Lord, you got guys on the very bottom all over at the top.

It's like watching a damn dirt race, which I think is more entertaining. So come on. We got to do something here. Maybe put some water on the track, all short tracks. I mean Listen It's like we said earlier When you slow

When you have to slow down The racing is better And it was phenomenal Marvelous stupendous For whatever the last And you're slowing out Because you don't have grip And it's a perfect thing

Like I left with I don't know how many to go But as it was drying out The racing was getting worse Right You know what I mean Like it was While it was wet

You're having to spend time off throttle they're all over the place racing. There's guys running the wall. There's guys running the apron. There's three lanes in the middle. Whatever it is, as it dries out, it goes back, turns back to one lane, and there's less competitive racing. It literally was like talent mattered.

That's what I was watching. It was like, talent matters again. You're not just out there 95% throttle all the way around the drive. Yeah, and it was, and not so much talent as, like, risk-first reward. Some guys were being a little guarded because they, like, but, you know, but we didn't haul ass in the rain because, like, we're trying to make sure we finish race to gain points on the, 22, who we know we've got trapped in the 30s.

We were going to finish in the top 15, I think. But there's guys like a Ryan Priest was an example of, you know, he's just trying to haul ass on the bottom and make up because he's only, he needs a win. He's got to have a win. So now he's going broke for that. You know, there's just guys willing to, you know, risk versus reward, put themselves at risk. And like you said, just like how aggressive do you want to be? And the guys that could be more aggressive could make time.

It was good for the first, like a little bit though. But as it did go to one lane, it made it harder. Yeah, once it dries out, like we've talked about it, it's just, it's drying out so you have more on throttle time and then less room to race. The only way to fix that is to give us the, you know, when there is a yellow, give us the ability to let guys in the back chance it, or, you know, guys up front and put the slicks on. Yeah. Who would have done that Rick Wharf racing is more competitive than RCR, a Kier-Woney Chevrolet team. I'm here for it. I'm just waiting for you guys to start busing an RCR like you did, Rick.

for a racing. Come on, grow some balls, man, get it done. Okay. How bad the people look that were critical,

I mean, we were kind of critical of them ourselves, of Justin Haley for leaving colleague racing to go to Rick Ware, where we have, I mean, aside for maybe

a couple of road courses, you haven't seen colleague for most of the year, and here they are running, you know, Justin's been contending for top tens the last three weeks on speed,

not, you know, pitch strategy or anything. No, known better yesterday when I should have been more alert for our wreck with cause Austin Dillon was right behind us and for some reason I don't know what Austin Dillon has done in his life but every wreck seems to find Austin Dillon I mean this guy every wreck none of nothing of his making I feel like there's been four or five times this year we're just a big giant wreck happens right in it's not a little wrecks no it's it's you know catastrophic events where it's knocking him out of

the race yesterday we're just riding along in the top lane and here comes Noah like a bowling ball doors us, knocks us into him, destroys both of our cars, and Noah continues on and finishes the race. It's like, really? But I mean, poor Austin Dylan. Like, it happened. That's the first time it's happening to over, we got collected. But, I mean, I feel like it's happening weekly to Austin, Dylan. I don't know the stat, and maybe we got it. We had text last night before I went to sleep or whatever, but, like, Kyle Bush wasn't winning a lot of races at Joe Gibbs racing at the, you know, his last couple years. I mean, I remember him winning Bristol Dirt, maybe his last year there. He won that rain race at, where the hell were we at? Texas, I think he won really late.

He was not going to win the one year, was the 20, the last year of Gibbs, he wasn't going to win. He won a race really late. I think it might have been Texas. And then he gets RCR and he wins, what, three races first year? Early in a season. Two races first year? Yeah, definitely early in season. So, I mean, listen, there's a lot of smart talent that people.

At RCR, they're obviously not, you know, as fast as they want to be. But, you know, RFK wasn't three years ago, two years ago either. It takes, when you get down in those holes, man, it takes a lot of work today. dig out and RCR's going to dig out. It's just a matter of time before they dig out. And listen, one of the things a lot of people don't realize when you end up like this, you know, Kyle's had three or four bad weeks in a row, there's a snowball to that. Now he's going to either where Qualifying gets rained out, you start last because you're way down in the metrics. If qualifying doesn't get rained out, you go out early as hell and now you're

a couple tens. So now you're going to qualify like again. Now you're going to have a bad pit stall. And it's just hard to dig your way out of that hole. It takes two, three weeks to get Yeah, you got to kind of creep up to where you're back in at least a middle of your round of qualifying. For that, for an organization like that, it takes two to three races because you're already, your qualifying efforts are not going to be good. That's one part of the metric there. And, you know, you're going to run a really fast lap? Probably not. Do you get a good finish mission?

Yeah, you get a good finish. So then you're up a little bit the next week and then you have to do all that again and make it even better. Jay, I'm apologizing because I'm going to get sidetracked here for one second while. qualifying. Like, let's just, what the fuck? Let's just keep making more rules every week about qualifying.

How complicated we can get it. It's awful. Like, just do the metric, use the metric, qualify one round based on speed. I know somebody had said they were doing it for TV to get interviews in of the group A guys during group B. Well, why can't you just interview them while the other guys are going? Yes, like they've done forever.

Like, I don't understand what we're doing. I don't know. Confusing. It's just. And every week. you've got to come up with a new rule because something else happens. You know, they're reacting to what happened at Iowa because the track was wet to begin with. So then 18 or 17 of the 18 guys in group two ran faster than everybody in group one.

So now that threw off the lineups. It's just we have, we keep reading. Like, it just seems like we're making it very confusing for our fans to keep track of. All right. Well, for more on reaction theater to leave an audio message 247, call our number 704-802-957. We'll play the best ones each week on the show. Consumer Cellular is the official wireless partner of Brett Kislauski, RFK racing, and the number 6 car. If they can count on consumer cellular, you can too.

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And in your questions on X each week using the hashtag AskDBC and we'll answer the best ones. The first one's from Dave who asked, who's a bigger part of the problem? Kyle Bush or RCR? I think they're kind of going hand in hand right now. The RCR doesn't have the speed that they need to compete, I feel like, right now. And I don't think Kyle's handling that very well at the same time. So, you know, I don't, I mean, obviously I have no clue of the inner workings of RCR. But I've been in places where you don't have speed and the drivers used to having, you used to

competing for wins and now he's not and it doesn't go well you know the driver is is kind of you know I remember I was working for one guy and he would just we'd go out and practice and we'd be five laps in it he'd be like this thing's a big pile of I ever drove and you're like well that's gonna really I'm sure the guys working the shop are really going to try harder next week when you're five you know five laps into this practice just tearing them down um and I don't know that that's Kyle you know you've heard comments you know you heard the comments last week about it just seemed like a really odd statement for Kyle to make about when somebody asked him go back would you go back you know, would you go back to JGR or Hendrick? And he said yes. You're like, why would you ever say that when you're under contract at RCR next year?

You know, that's going to rub guys the wrong way in that shop as well. So I mean, I think it's a, RCR definitely doesn't have the speed. You see that with both cars. But at the same time, I don't know that Kyle's doing much to help the situation. Yeah, I mean, I think if Kyle has a weakness, this is probably it whenever things aren't going well. He just, I don't know if he tries too hard or if he's just, it seems like. like it seems like it's hard for him to just piece together the eighth, the seventh, you know, the runs that they need to get back. It seems like it's either it's either win or rack. And, you know, the only other time I can remember Kyle really going through something like this was probably when he has a Zix Finney series team when he started driving them. Then he quit driving him because he couldn't run that good at him. You put Kurt in him.

Yeah. Sometimes, I mean, we say this in racing all the time. You know, sometimes you got to take what it's giving you. And you can't take a seventh place race car and wreck it and finish 35th. I mean, that's how you don't make the playoffs? If you got a seventh place car, how many times can that car go up and finish fourth because of the way the end of the race plays out? So I think that, like you said, Freddie, like there's a lot of really talented people at

RCR and they'll get it figured out. But you're not going to get it figured out if you're not all on the same page. Yeah. Yeah, it's happening every week. I feel like every time he looked at the screen yesterday, he was spinning out. All right, another question from Greg asked. Should NBC show more of the pre-race? ceremonies. I'm all for post-race show, but it would be nice to have some warm up before we go green.

See, this is the perfect example of you're never going to make everyone happy because I personally, me, I don't know about you guys, I would rather a post-race show because I feel like the pre-race show, what are you going to talk about? You know what I mean? Like, you're going to talk about, here's what to look for, here's the trends, here's how these things are already been talked about all week. All week leading up to it, everybody's already talked about the same stuff leading up about the race trends and who's going to be good today. Who, might be struggling, who's on the cutoff line, who to watch during the race. So you're just going to have another, you know, I'd much rather have, you know,

if you're going to give me 30 minutes one way or the other, give it to me at the end where you can interview more drivers. Guys had really good days. Todd Gillen, Justin Haley, were, you know, having really good runs. You know, guys had really good finishes, you know, the briskos and berries, you know, talked, I want to hear from them guys after race about how their race went versus hearing the same stuff over and over again before the race. So give me the post-race show every time.

See, I'm not obviously a producer, but give me, give me the answer. anthem, and then during the five minutes that we literally burn for the drivers to go in the cars, give me a pre-recorded interview of the Pulse Center. Last time we were there as winter, and if anybody had something crazy happened during practice for qualifying that it's worth highlighting. Otherwise, I don't need all the hand clapping. Start the damn race. Give me all the interviews at the post-race, post-game, post-show.

That's where all the things are for me. I don't 100% agree. You would think you could do that in like a 10-to-15-minute window, then have like a 30-minute post. Yeah, I would definitely prefer post-race rather than pre-race 100% all day. A lot of times. And I don't know what, so what do they show? What is NBC showing? Well, I mean, it varies sometimes race-race, but there have been times before with NBC

where, you know, you're coming up on the broadcast and cars are running their laps. I mean, they're not even on the grid anymore, right? They're ready to go in two or three laps. So I understand his point in that like it'd be nice to have a little bit of a lead-up because if you don't catch the beginning of the broadcast, it's like, boom, oh, I missed the first 10, 15, lapse of the race. Going back to the whole why there's sometimes so much of a lead-up or like a longer pre-race show, a lot of times it's those ad spots that they sell because at the end of the race, a lot of times some people will tune out, they'll turn it off. You go and throw me to one of them

recall this for me. But yeah, I mean, there's a lot of those like sponsored things that they sell pre-race that they know we're going to have a larger audience than after the fact. All right, moving on. Jerry asked, what should we make of Haley Deegan's season? She has two top 15 finishes, but everything else feels like a comedy of errors at this point. That sucks. I mean, I wanted to see her do well. And obviously, she's, my biggest struggle there is I've not seen her have speed anywhere. And you're not going to have success.

Fast cars go fast. And when she got in, you know, to Xfinity Series and made her debut, she ran really well. She was competitive. And for whatever reason, this scenario that she's in is not working, TJ. You've worked closer with her, obviously, than we have. but I want to see her be successful because I do think she has talent. But again, you know, so did Johanna Long. And if you don't get in the right spot at the right time, you don't get to say,

hey, look how good I am. Yeah, I think when she made her Xenia Series debut, she got into a, I mean, it was a good car. And I think having good teammates at the time, too, because that was basically a, wasn't that Stuart Hosscar? Basically. Yeah, and then you got good teammates. I mean, Riley had a lot of speed. last year. Riley was really fast in the last year. So I don't know. I think I just, it's hard right

now. Like Freddie said, once you get behind, it's so hard. You got to put together and it's not going to get easier until you start having, you start stacking solid finishes. But, and there's only one Ford affiliate in that series that's fast. Yeah. If you're not associated or in a Stuart Hoss racing car as a Ford in the Xfinity series, you're not going to be relevant. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, you see it with Ryan Sieg. Ryan Sieg's much more aligned with Stuart Haas Racing. And he runs much better this year than he has in years past. He's a top five, top 10 guy seemingly every week now. He's top 10th for sure. You know, and it's just, you know, it's, the problem I have is some of the, and I don't know what happened Saturday, but she was literally running. She wasn't having a good day. We were all back. I'm going to spot for Kyle. Kyle. Kyle was like 31st. She was 32nd.

and and and or actually she might have been ahead of us she might have been like 30th because she uh oh no she got a she got a penalty and got herself another lap down um but you know she goes in and wrecks running literally last or you know last on the racetrack at the 92 who was you know kind of you know not not a lot of speed there so i don't know what happened there but that's the stuff that can't happen you know what i mean because now not only are you having a bad run but now you tore up race cars and we've always heard when i was growing up racing like if you tear the race cars up we can't make them any better you know because now we're fixing them we're instead of Instead of spending the time of working on setup and trying to make your car better,

we're just trying to catch up on fixing damage from the week before. And that's going to hinder your ability to get any better. So those are the mistakes that can't happen. And like you said, same deal as Cup. Once you get back there where you're going out early in qualifying, it's hard to dig out of that hole. And let's take the obvious. It comes down to money. Yeah.

And you can't expect to go out and compete with a team that has $5 million a year in sponsorship. when you're bringing a million five. The only caveat I have to that is Brett Moffitt was much, much faster in that car last year. But he should be. Yeah, oh, I agree. But that car had speed, you know. So did that car lose all of its speed? Is it Haley?

I agree with you. Haley's a talent race car driver. She's won NASCAR regional series races. You don't get that. You don't do that by not having talent. She was in fast cars. Yeah. And she was in fast cars then.

You know, she was in the best, you know, Bill, McAnally Racing West Series cars are the best West Series cars there are. You know, she went out, took a fast car, and won races with it. Now, you know, where, these cars, are they the same as last year? They had the same alliances. I think that was an alliance. I think there's a lot of things.

It's different. Here's the thing that you look at if you've got her ear, and I don't know that if anybody's got her ear. I'm going to sit her down. Sorry, my phone's vibrating. You know, here. Oh, yeah. I'm going to sit her down, and I'm going to say, okay, and I'm going to make up a number right here. She's got a million five.

I'm going to pick 10 races and go run those 10 races in a Stuart Hoss car versus coming back. Because you're not in, you want to run the full schedule for what? To make the playoff? Well, you ain't going to make it. I mean, let's state the obvious. She's not going to make it. She's not going to make a playoff. Unless some lucky thing happens and she stays out on her rain delay and she wins.

So you're not going to make the playoffs. So your fans, your sponsors need you out there every week. Well, I think her social media funds a lot of her sponsorship. It's phenomenal. She didn't have to race every week for it to still be phenomenal. I would highly recommend she pull all her money together, run a partial schedule, very similar to what Ryan Priest did, very similar to what Ryan Truex has done, and go out and have a chance to win because you're running worse than 20th is doing nothing for your career.

Ross Chessane and I had a long talk about it years ago, and he's like, you're better off to run Johnny Davis Motorsports cars every week versus running 10 Gibbs races. And I'm like, I won 100% disagree with you. Yeah, that's exactly what Ryan. Ryan Priest did. Ryan Priest ran a year. He took the, he had a little bit of money. He took it to Johnny Davis, ran a year and was nobody even knew he was on a racetrack. He took that same money and ran three Gibbs races the following year. One one of them ran top, or he might have won two of them and ran top three. I think every time he was on the racetrack and took that and made that into getting the ride in the 47 car, you know, or 37 car maybe at the time. So, you know, I agree with you. Winning is everything. You know, I saw Danny, you know, a clip about this last week about, you know, are you better. off running, you know, I know everybody's goal is to get to Cup, but do you want to get the cup and run 30th every week? Or do you want to win truck races? Or do you want to win, you know, extended races? I'd much rather be the guy winning versus running last, you know, maybe your

banking has a little bit better running last than Cup Series versus winning a truck series race. But I think you got a lot more eyes on you. You get better opportunities while you're winning races. Yeah, my last thing I'll say on her is our sport and the popularity of our sport is built around personalities. And it's built around drivers, period. And we need someone like Haley Degan to succeed because she is a great personality. Obviously she's a female. There's a lot of things that she can do really well that these guys can't. So I hope she gets it figured out. Yeah, there's a lot of eyes on her. And you would think a partial schedule would help build that confidence back to as well. Yeah, because when it's down, Carla, it's dead. Like it's, man,

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This is my favorite. Well, I feel honored to be here for this. Do you have yourself an idiot this week? I don't know. I'll see what you have. Oh, I think there's a, there's there. I mean, you have to. Christopher Bell is going to have to go.

He's going to save him a spot in the Wooden Idiot Hall of Fame. I mean, and I felt, I mean, he's such a nice guy. And I feel so bad for him because you could tell the second he says the word chase, he locks up. Like, stares right at probably on a stash. think he was going to say Amarola. I'm assuming his PR guy. You know, I was like, I mean, he's just, he's looking at a camera and just was,

who look right out of the way. I'm assuming PR guy or maybe somebody from the, from the organization. But yeah, I mean, and listen, they, if they don't. See your hands down what an idiot. He's got to be, you know. But here's my, here will be, will be my one idiot, maybe retroactive. If they don't somehow include Christopher in the announcement tomorrow, they have really dropped the ball.

You know, like they have to do that. You think that they should emcee it. I think they should bring every race car driver named Chase to this thing tomorrow. Chase Elliott, Chase Briscoe, Chase Purdy, find every every chase in the sport. Bring them there and have it like the, like the, when the kids decide what college are going to. Oh, yeah, they're so a hat. Bell just hand Briscoe, a JGR hat. Were all these people named Chase because of the chase for the Sprint Cup?

Yeah, that's the time and work for all that. It does. So Christopher Bell is on my list. Frankie Munez is also on my list. Have you been following this on social media? This clown turns in his Avis rental car, and Avis is claiming he dropped the keys in the drop box. He didn't actually hand them to somebody. And Avis is telling him that he owes like $7,000 because they can't find a car.

And it's an ongoing thing on social media. So he gets a mention. The that was sitting, and I don't usually have this many. I usually have one car, but I'm pulling a Freddie this week. The d'I. That was sitting on the hot indie racetrack up by the wall. I mean, this guy. Oh, that was Laguna Seca.

He's in the corkscrew. He's sitting on the inside of the track at the wall taking pictures. He's a photographer or something. He's definitely, he's, he's worse than, he's going to die. That's how dumb this idiot is. The fans who left yesterday. I watched it full house, like you said, unbelievable fans up there.

They came back on, they missed one of the best races, one of the best endings of a race at Loudoun in NASCAR history. So I thought, yeah, they're all idiots. And then my last one is Max Pappas, because he made fun of guys with beards. He basically said that you and I look like homeless people because we don't shake.

Well, I mean, it's not wrong. I got a buddy of mine that's driving down for his son runs the summer shootout, Steve Halpin, and he's having the nightmare trip of all nightmare trips.

He had a medical thing a couple weeks ago that was preventing him from flying right now. So he had to go rental car and the only car available. He's from, he lives in Long Island.

He's driving down for the summer shootout at Charlotte and which, by the way, our friend Carlo over here had a hell of a performance at the summer shootout a couple weeks ago almost flipped a bus over.

But it was excited. It was up on edge. What'd you say? Yeah, you had it up on his edge. Every turn. Well, like the Duke's a hazard. Every turn.

Yeah. But so he rented a car and all they had left, and T.J. is going to know this, was electric vehicles. I don't know what kind of electric vehicle you got. Nice. But it only runs 200 miles on a tank. It takes five hours to charge it. They said it's an hour for a supercharger.

What's that cost? Five hours for a regular charger. Is it a Tesla? I don't know. I doubt it. Oh, it shouldn't take that long. But it said he can run five hours. every 200 miles every five hours.

So I think he was still driving. He left yesterday at like 4 o'clock and he was still driving this morning from Long Island. So he's definitely a one idiot. I do have one honorable mention left and I'll let T.J. go. I found out yesterday and she's not here to defend herself.

Oh, no. Casey, you know, she poor mouse a lot. Actually, she ain't got nothing, right? You know what poor mouse means? Oh, yeah. Because you Yankees speak different language. I've never heard that's a southern... You never heard poor mouth?

That means they act like they broke when they're not broke. She loves to poor miles. Yeah, Casey's not broke. No, but she poor my, she acts like she doesn't have, you know, oh, I love it. She's got a f*** nanny. Really? Yes. I didn't know that.

I met the nanny. You met the nanny? I met the nanny. I have one comment here to add as a mom. Wait, she's got a nanny. No, not anymore, but. Not anymore. Listen, a nanny was cheaper than child care.

Oh, like daycare or. How many kids do you have? Oh, she has one. So I would like to say that her daycare will be half of what yours. And she still gets smiled a little bitch. You got a baby moon number two, right? Doesn't that what they call that? No, this is the boat family.

They take a big boat family vacation. God bless Billy. So this isn't the baby moon yet. There's 70 of them on this trip probably. Oh. I don't know how Billy does it. Billy Boat is a saint, by the. I mean, that guy is the best guy on the planet.

71 including the nanny. Yeah. Yeah, they got to bring the nanny now. Are you going to give it to them? I think it has to be brought up, don't you? Oh, it's got to be brought up. We got to give it to the Mr. Bring the Caution out Whatever he wants himself again

The repeat offender It didn't work at Bristol He made sure it worked at Loudoun this time The old driving in other corner slowdown Stay on the throttle, then hold the brake Why did you do you have a flat or something? Yeah, he had a tire going down Who was it? I didn't see this. Carson again

Oh man, come on. He was doing so well too Damn, I thought our intervention worked It didn't matter. We had to have him on here again Yeah, kids. We did a DJD reload in a week's going. You look at the previous two laps where the breaking is, and all of a sudden he's got a lot of throttle in areas where he's not breaking. It's pretty obvious that when you do that,

then you stand on the break really hard, what you're doing. So back to old habits here. Old habits die hard, they say. They do. That's right. Me and him did an episode of DJD Reloaded with Carlin. Did you? Did you? Did you ask him about this?

I did. The one we did was about trash talking, so here we are back trash talking them again. If I had one, I think it would go along with Christopher Bell, but he was kind of recanting, apologizing for the big blow up. But whoever made him feel bad for this, I agree with what Kyle Larson said and that you probably got way more attention, way more clicks on this by, you know, obviously it's an accident. You don't want every press release to happen this way. But if anybody made Seabell feel bad for this, it got way more attention.

No, yeah. Like if you go, I guarantee, unless they do some kind of crazy announcement tomorrow, if there's no way the impressions that that video got from, and if every different reporter tweeted his own video of it, like then the impressions of that are getting retweeted a million times probably is going to be way more than whatever statement you put out tomorrow where I welcome Chase Briscoe to the team, you know? And I did once see, I did see interesting Jane Small is going to be at the press conference. They're obviously retaining him. That's going to be interesting because obviously. he's a little volatile at times him and Martin you hear them going back and forth, so it'll be interesting to see how they click. They're kind of the same. That team,

that whole team is, like Martin, and that whole team that fits together perfect. You got Martin, you got James, Jazzy. Like that whole group over there is like really tight knit, clothes, you know, so it's been interesting to bring somebody like, you know, I don't want to call an outsider, but it's a guy that they're not really familiar with, you know, into that fold to see

it's, so it'll be interesting to see how that works out. All right, should we get to our DBC picks for Nashville? I'm pissed. I don't even know where I finished. in a bag. Did you finish my name? Yeah, TJ sucked. That's why I happened to me.

Yeah, we were. I should have picked Briscoe. Oh, so close. Briscoe. I'm going to tell you, before all that started going down, Briscoe was. Oh, no, he wasn't. He was worse than us. Oh, I saw.

It was like, but he finished second. Oh, yeah. It's because he, they threw the green in the rain. He saw the guns rolling the wall. Like those dirt racers. And I mean, you knew it was going to happen. Those dirt racers. He was running up there coming, like, in the few pace laps that we were running.

and then I'm like, I knew where he was going to go, but I don't know if it was going to work, but he's in a position to, why not? Why not? Yeah, try it. Who's first? I think I'm first. I'll take. Pretty sure I go last.

I'll take Alex Bowman. Ross testing. Who's Casey gap? Do we have Casey's pick? Yeah. God, I need them recall this, TJ. Yeah, man. Get the button on yourself.

Go ahead. I know. Casey is going with Josh. Oh, no, wait a minute. Nope, change. Eric Jones. Eric Jones. He's been fascinating.

He's been fascinating. You know. T. You know. What do we have coming up? No, man. Yeah, it's his fourth one.

What do we have coming up? A lot of racetracks. Yeah, but. Nashville, Chicago, Pokey, no. Indie, Daytona, Darlington. Darlington is a race race. I really wanted to take Bowman.

Bowman was my guy. I picked him because it's Ally 400. That's, yeah. The sports rigged. Dang it I'm gonna go with Daniel Suarez Good pick I mean I'm laying up here

So it's Bowman against Ross Yeah I'll wreck your ass I'm gonna talk I'm gonna call Alex I had to text Alex last week Because there's a picture

in the Iowa Elevator chef He's like seven years old I don't he's driving It must be like an arcar car or something I don't even know But he looks like he's 12 I had a 10 of X

I go This is before you're cute You know what's You know where the weirdest bathroom is that we go to? Oh, boy. It's Bristol. Because we walk into those bathrooms, and there's pictures of the pit crews,

pit and cars. And you're in there using... What the hell bathroom? Are you using the Bristol? I don't ever... I go into the bathroom. First thing I see is Alan Mincy looking at me. And I'm like, this is weird.

I don't think I've ever been in that bathroom. Yes, you have. It's still going close to the fireboard. I don't remember ever seeing a picture. Y'all just don't pay attention. Why? I don't usually... I don't tend to look around much in a bathroom.

Everybody listening from now on when they go to. I probably been in there more than any of us here. So, I mean, you're laser-focused. I tend to stay pretty focused on my own deal in the bathroom. Every man who listens to this show that goes to Bristol Motor Sweetway is now going to, they're going to see what I'm talking about. Are you talking about the one up in the suites or the one in the garage? No, I ain't talking about garage.

I don't know where that's in my garage is. I don't think you know where the one ups and sweets is either. I don't know which one you go to, but I've never seen, I'm going to maybe try to pay attention this next time. Are you all ready to burn up in Nashville this weekend? I mean. I'm going early. Not me. I'm going. I'm staying for a couple days. We're going to hang out with our buddies. Chris and Georgia. Brian and Dejole. You know Brian McDowell's old bus driver. You call him a bus driver.

Yes, we're going to hang out there on the lake for a couple days before we come back. So I'm looking forward to this weekend. I'm going to need it. It sounds like after. After. Hossford? Yeah, Hossford. About 100 days, 100 degrees on the roof. So at least it's not hot. You know, at least it's, it's good Lord. The roof, the roof's even high. hot there. Two years ago, we had one drop out. Yeah. Yeah. Not me, though.

I got invited to a dinner at one of my favorite restaurants called Hall's Chop House, and it started in Charleston, South Carolina. I thought that was Charleston. Doug's been there, I think. Yeah, Doug's been to that bathroom. I met to that restaurant. I shouldn't have told an inside joke right there. I hope Doug's listening.

No chance he listens. I hope everybody in garage walks up to Doug and ask him about the Hall's chop house visit that he had. But no, man, it's Nashville's such a great. town and the track's 50 minutes from downtown it's far yeah it's not it's not super close yeah but i mean it's doable it's not so far that you can't not stay it's not as close to the fairgrounds yeah and and man listen it'll be packed downtown will be packed and it's obviously going to be hot friday is a night race Saturday is a day race I think everything's yeah Saturday night yeah Sunday

was a night or like an evening start 15 start on Saturday and a 245 start it looks like on time that's hot that's hot that's hot that's hot time to use my cool shirt. I'm going to need my cool shirt. I'm going to soak the towel. But no, Nashville's, you can't be going on Nashville. I do hope one day the fairgrounds gets a race. Me too.

If you get hot, just hug me. Just come over. TJ can start hugging me. Can somebody please send me a picture of you two idiots, belly to belly hugging? I mean, if we're cool. Oh, boy. Yeah, it's going to be hot. So, Carla, you get to any races yet?

Yeah, I usually go. We do a big trip for Fox. and next start throughout the country with Daytona. So I always do Daytona. All the local races. I'm going to Chicago this year. I went to Nashville last year. And then, yeah, a couple more busier schedule as we get in the playoffs.

So you get me a Cubs ticket yet? We're working on it. Okay. Are you going early? We're going Friday. I got to work on that. That's in two weeks. Two weeks.

Just got Thursday. 2311 has a day there, right? Oh, they did last year. I don't know if they're, I think they're doing it again, but I don't like me. I don't like them right now. They don't tell you anything. They don't keep me in the loop. I'm going to go with my buddies.

Yeah. No, so I think we're going to go Cubs game. Brett's got us some reservations somewhere for dinner. I think Saturday. Have you ever been to Gibson? Oh, that's awesome. So we're going to enjoy it. We've got to do it.

Me and I think, I don't know if it's been announced yet. Me and TJ are doing some stuff with the track Sunday morning, I think. Oh, yeah. So that'll be fun with our friend Spotter Julie. It's going to look like that movie. You know what? The brothers, yeah, the brothers, three brothers, bus tours. Yeah, whatever.

It's a bus. The next couple of weeks are going to be really fun. Schedules. Yeah, yeah. It's leading into it off a couple off weeks, thank God. Can't wait. Counting down the weeks to those. But yeah, I think, listen, the one, if there's any good things to come out of

being 100 degrees, it should make the racing better. You know, it's usually whenever we get hot and slick, these guys got to be up on the wheel driving a little bit harder. So hopefully that's the case this weekend and then we see some good racing again. Clint Boyer wins a truck race this weekend. You think so? Calling it. Because you're not spotting it. Solid, solid chance that helps him. Nothing holding them back. Yeah. I mean, I listen, Corey Heim still the man of beating that series for me. Him and Majeski, kind of these shorter tracks. But listen, if anybody can do it. Clint Boyer is probably his best track. Really? His Exfinity cars, man, I don't know the stats, obviously, but man, he was really good there.

Is there any concern that we're going to Nashville with Clint? Well, that's probably a good point. They probably should have ran this. He probably should fly in the day of the race and go straight to the track because he finds Roberts on Broadway or all around. Hanging out Thursday night. No, I'm not hanging out here. But listen, I've seen him win hung over before. I've, I've, I've, hell I've won with him.

we were both hung over. I saw him. Laura posted the story. Did you see this idiot in this little cold tub the other day? Did you see that? Yeah. I hugged him in Victory Lane, Carla, and he says to me in my ear, he goes, if these people only knew what the fuck we did last night. Because it was supposed to rain all day.

It did rain, right? It was a rain short. It rained at the end, but it didn't rain all day. Those are usually the bad ones. You're breaking rule number one right now. You're telling on yourself. I know. I don't care.

I'm retired, so is he. That's the good part. Cut the show. Cut it out. There was one time where, I won't name any drivers. I'll shut up and let us close the thing out. But there were seven or eight drivers. The owner of Dirty Mo Media might have been one of them.

And they all got picked up on golf cars at Watkins Glen, and they rode around forever on the infield, on the outfield. They're having the biggest time ever. And they were the seven slowest drivers the next morning in practice. There was one guy, no names mentioned. He was, what, seven seconds off the pace? his first run? Seven seconds. The crew chief, oddly enough, radioed up to me and said, what did you two idiots do last night? We were not at a race. You're telling on yourself again. I didn't name any

names. We were to test. And I said, I don't know what you're talking about. The next run, we were four seconds off. The next run, we were 1.3 seconds off. Then we broke for lunch. We were P1 after lunch. We went to the top of the board. Just took a few hours. You should have taken the morning off. Yeah, that'd been a great idea. Best thing. There was some fun stories back in the day. You can't get away with that now. You used to get away with it. And we're talking early 2000, mid-2000s,

but the game changed too much and cell phones came out, which captures everything and then you get fired. So, yeah. All right, y'all got anything else? Ready to go. I think that's it. Well, I've seen a bunch of DBC fans this week. Same.

I wish I got their names. They parked right outside the gate. I've seen them there the last two years, and they said they got those tickets because of us talking about it. Remember, if you look out there's that, hospitality VIP walking there. And they said, you guys talked about this being the best deal in NASCAR on the podcast. And that's why he bought these tickets. It's $200 a day, $200 for the weekend, excuse me. And you park literally right behind the front stretch grandstands. That's easy in and out.

And you can get in and out. There's a gate right there, easy in and out. I mean, it's for that price, that is the best deal in NASCAR. I didn't remember talking about it. He said, I think he said you did. Maybe I went here that day. But he said that, you know, that's a, they turn that in a good area like a primary. Very usable. You know, that's a, but. So a lot of DBC fans in New Hampshire, seeing a bunch of guys up at the BFP

of a party up on top of the X lot there at Saturday night. So awesome to see that. I'm sure we'll see a bunch of Nashville. Carla, thanks for subbing. Carla, let me sit in. Thank you. To get very easy on me, I expect a lot of people.

Well, bad news for you is our host is actually pregnant. So I think we're probably going to need you back here pretty soon. So hopefully we'll be a little more. Minus, you know, no more Trey talk, then we'll be all right. Yeah, yeah. I just need a phone number to somebody that knows you really well.

Yeah. Yeah, I don't want that to happen. We'll figure it out. We'll get to that. But thanks for coming. We enjoy it. We appreciate you all listening. We out.

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