Door Bumper Clear - 339 | Pocono: Tricky Triangle Strategy, Phantom Blocks, and Traffic Headaches
Episode Date: July 15, 2024Casey Boat, Freddie Kraft, Brett Griffin, and TJ Majors recap the NASCAR Cup Series race at Pocono. Corey LaJoie and Kyle Busch tangled in Turn 1 of The Tricky Triangle, did LaJoie’s comments afterw...ards make things worse? With NASCAR’s return this weekend to the oval at Indianapolis, the guys give their favorite all-time moment at the Brickyard. We discuss the recent silly season development of Rodney Childers signing on with Spire Motorsports to helm the #7 team. Plus, Corey Heim and Christian Eckes are dominating the Truck Series. Can anyone else step up their game to contend with the heavyweights? 21+ and present in North Carolina. Opt in req. Wager requirements apply. Bonuses awarded as non-withdrawable bonus bets or profit boost tokens. Restrictions apply including bonus expiration. See terms and conditions at fanduel.com/sportsbook. Gambling problem? Call 877-718-5543 or visit morethanagame.nc.gov. Want more DBC? Check out and subscribe to the new DBC YouTube channel! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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No good.
By one.
Don't ever drive, man.
It'll come to you.
You're a fucking idiot if you think that's right.
Like that just because T.J. planned it that way.
Ball three, one of the eight outback.
You come in time here.
You come and keep up a bottle three.
Model three, wax.
It's hard to get lost.
I mean, seriously.
Might be the dumbest thing you've ever said.
Door.
Bopper.
Clear.
Clear.
Clear.
Hey, everybody.
I'm T.J. Majors.
Spotted the Six Cup car.
No experience this last weekend, but I did have a truck, which I know Brett loves.
Trucks.
I do love trucks.
I didn't watch truck race.
You like what rhymes with trucks?
I like to watch them.
I'm done spotting them.
Oh.
I retired.
So someone says Brett, spot a truck.
Clint said no.
Clint already asked.
Yeah.
I'm not going to have.
I politely declined.
Politely?
I said, I said, no.
He's already hitting the button.
Brett Griffin, Spotter for Richard Childers Racing.
I'm back at the racetrack this week after a...
You're coming to Andy?
I'm coming to Andy.
Jesus, that's bad.
You got a terrible schedule, though.
You work Friday night.
Oh, yeah.
You work all day Saturday.
It's called a job.
My schedule's pretty easy.
It's a truck series.
It's what the problem is.
Yeah, for a little bit on Saturday, around noon, and then you're done until Sunday.
No, I work Friday evening.
We got cup practice.
Oh, yeah, that's right.
What's the issue?
You're already in Indy.
What's the issue with what?
Would you rather make money than spend it?
Here's what I love about the cup schedule this week.
it only affects us, I would assume, but
Cup practice and truck practice
basically overlay each other and they're at two different race tracks.
Yeah, the guy I'm spotting for is running both of those,
so it's going to be curious.
I don't know if I could tell y'all.
As well, now, it's Ty Dillon.
I guess it'll be out of the time the show drops.
Probably.
What the hell's my name?
Freddie Craft, spotter for Bubba Wallace,
Kyle Seek and Ty Dillon this week, Ty Dillon.
Has Ty Dillon hard to spot for him?
Wait a minute.
You guys are sharing.
He's really easy.
He's really easy.
Yeah.
Awesome.
You guys are sharing a driver?
We're sharing a driver.
No, driver's wives over here again.
I have whoever sent us that post of bread.
The picture of bread.
I didn't see it.
I can't get it out of my head.
Oh, my God.
I got it right here.
Hold on.
I don't see it.
I mean, it might mess you up.
It might ruin your day.
Why?
Or no, my make his day.
I don't even know where it was.
So somebody made me a woman?
Is that what you're saying?
A mate.
A mate.
A hot mate.
Oh, this is me and this.
Dude, that's when I was skinnier than I am not.
See, you wanted to be a wife.
You wanted to be a hot wife.
I look pretty good.
No, you don't.
I don't know if that's the way I would describe it.
I look like Ricky Morton from the Rock and Roll Express.
Yes, exactly what you look like.
Yeah.
Anyways, we are back from the tricky triangle where Ryan Blaney gets his second one of the season,
probably more to come this year with his track record.
How is the race?
top tens
uh yeah we got a couple of
the race was what i expected i mean you know guys are it's a road
road course to me because you're gonna you're gonna have some guys that take stage points
you can have some guys that pit early because you can there's um we all know the certain
time that you have to be within the leader to pit and not get lap and some of these guys
time that they're really close but you know they were able to to pit and come back out and
trying to get kind of get some track position um and there was two different strategies and
you're hoping the caution falls at some point randomly on your strategy. And it didn't fall for us
when we were, we got the lead. We weren't, we were going to run. We were actually in a good
spot if it stays green because everyone was going to pit again. We were going to pretty much
stay the leader. But caution comes out and we had to take more fuel, which then puts you back in
the back half of the top 10 and got to try to work your way back up, which we did a little bit. But
man,
that end of that race.
TJ,
you're well aware of this.
We can let the crowd in on this.
T.J.
and Herschman are the kings of
a whole benefit of himself.
Yeah.
How are you going to help me?
Yeah.
So he comes down to me on a restart.
We're behind him.
He's like,
got to push me.
Just push me.
Just push me.
And guess what happened to me?
Four spots I lost because,
like somebody in front of you.
Who's 19 or something like that?
The 14.
It was the 14.
It was the 14.
It went three wide bottom.
that start, finish line.
And they're running, like, running into each other and wiggling and stuff.
And it got down to one.
And I don't think, um, it got pretty messy.
I tried to, we just tried to do our deal like, all right, we're going to push the six because
the six is good.
And guess what happened to me?
Yeah.
You kind of owe TJ a couple of T.J.
efforts.
Yeah.
I owe Brad maybe.
Last I checked the score card still.
Well, I think I got one.
I got one mark back in my column yesterday.
I'm being a nice guy and getting shuffled three rows.
You finished still.
So that's different.
that doesn't work. Most of the time when you strike, we don't finish.
I don't know. What it looked like on TV? It seemed to me like it was probably a very
boring race to watch on television because we get that's how that's Pocono. That's how it is.
Basically a road course. Yeah, I mean, the question was who was going to pit win, who was going
to take stage points. I mean, I feel like Gabe Hart kind of gave one away, you know, going after
a stage. Well, you get two playoffs.
Versus going after the race win. And, and I mean, look, Gabe Hart's one of the brightest guys in the garage.
But, I mean, it just came down to strategy right up until Corey LaJoy dumped Kyle Bush.
And then from there on it, there were some things that were.
You're mistaken.
Kyle blocked him six times.
Okay.
Corey drove into him and then he drove into him again.
Don't worry.
We will talk about it later.
But once that started, then it, you know, caution after caution.
But, I mean, it was a typical polka-no race.
Nothing crazy.
If you compare the restarts in the beginning of the race, we go to term one.
and it was like too wide the whole way there
because people know that if you step out of line
the bottom sucks. Yeah, so, but
the later you're getting into that race
that you're not, everyone's stepping out and doing it
and that's when it gets bad.
Yeah, the first guy to step out on the first restart,
I think it was Ross and then from there on out, man,
like you said, it got crazy.
But those restarts are four and five wide.
They're going away from you guys.
Like there's not a worst angle in the sport for spotters than that.
Oh, when they turn off into the corner,
you think you're three wide, you're just like,
gosh, I hope you know.
like yeah like you know you can't i told i told us sorry on here before bubba came up there and stood next
me when i spot for biffle and like look down there with me and i was trying to spot and you're like
i stood up he goes you're a liar he's like you can't see anything down there like when they go
i don't believe you anymore going coming to the one to go i think we all say hey just so you know
when you get down to one when you get to about right here we can't tell anymore and there's
there was a handful of guys that had a you do you have a second guy yesterday like i don't i know
Blaney did.
Like Mule was down there
for Timmy.
I don't, it's such a hard drop point
there.
Your buddy was in down there in the infield.
The guy you made friends with it,
Larry.
Larry McGowan.
He was down there.
Your buddy.
Was he spotting?
I don't know who was spotting somebody
from seeing one of the other.
It was a, I mean, listen,
track position was king.
Whoever got the lead seemed to jump out
to a two-second lead pretty quick.
Sounds like the traffic
getting in and out of there.
was amazing.
It was amazing.
All right.
It was.
I don't know.
I know they said they had that storm.
That storm hit.
That's lame.
Yeah.
Well,
so I got there before the storm.
So if I'm reading that thing right,
they made their people that were working.
Yes.
So there was a wreck out front for one on 115 there.
The main road out front.
So that I think diverted people to the way we always go,
which is Stony Hollow or Long Pond.
I was a mile from the racetrack, and it said an hour and 45 minutes.
So I was probably there before you, obviously.
Yeah.
We usually get there when the sunrise is.
No, I'm not Corelli.
Or crazy.
I wish I was as week.
Yeah, no kidding.
So we've stayed, Miller-Louis is.
We've stayed up that way a bunch.
That's not where I stay this time, but we've had houses up there.
And I've never, and we've left late before.
And I've never really hit.
We've never, we sit a little bit of traffic like right, you know, when you get ready to turn on the lawn pond.
But I was in traffic before you even make the right on the whatever road that is it connects a lawn pond.
And it was bad.
So the issue was because of the severe thunderstorms that occurred earlier that morning.
And a few years ago when I believe, I think they were talking about it, there were lightning like strikes.
This was the first place.
that I recall being at a sporting event
and it was outside of turn three
and a fan was struck and killed by lightning.
Exactly. So now... About 10 years ago.
They're taking precautions,
which every track does, but they have
to...
All the staff have to seek shelter.
And so do the police officers
and everybody else who's been to do traffic?
Last time I checked every police officer
has a car they can sit in.
Yeah. They were still working.
Let me ask you all this.
And I don't mean to disrespect anybody when I ask
When is the last time?
Not trying to be a d. What is the last time that you feel like the parking attendants made parking go faster?
I was just going to say, like, when they went away, it probably picked up.
Like, because, yeah, it cleared up a little bit.
The guy, the problem for us was the guys outside of the tunnel were, yeah, just making you go to a certain lane.
Then you get in that lane and it would jam up.
Like, I do feel like that was worse.
It's endless.
And, listen, the weather was not good yesterday.
And if you made people stop.
but listen for two or three years now
when we went to one date here
the crowd has been phenomenal
like there's been a little people
listen they have a lot of stuff
going on there too out there like
they have like a circus out there
yeah and it is there's a lot going on
but since then
the traffic has been and it's
listen it's a hard place to go
I bet you they got a new director of security
and he screwed the whole thing up
it was it's always been bad
like I was staying 20 minutes away
and I banked on an
hour to get there. Like because
traffic has always just kind of been
shitty. And an hour is reasonable. I was like, I had a meeting at 12
o'clock. We left at 10. I was like, you know, it's a 20 minute
drive. It's probably going to take us an hour. We parked by 11 where we got
plenty of time. If I didn't. Did you break the law?
I was sitting in a car that broke the law. Nick Payne,
which I might have talked to me. Nick Flicks. We might have
discussed it. We went up the left side of Stony Hollow because
it saved us an hour. Like literally, we
were my ETA was 105. Did you play your flashers home? Yeah, we did. It looked important now way. Yeah. But we, I, I, I, I, I, I, we, uh, organized the group of us because, like, Joe White was back there and then Slugger was behind me. So I was like, if we all just go up this left lane, like they can't, they can't, they can't, like get mad at everybody. Yeah, they can't. I've been in that situation. So we, we, we started it too. But it was literally, we went, we were a half a mile from Long Pond on Stony Hollow drive or whatever that is. We were a half a mile from Long Pond. It said our ETA was 105. This is like 1130. Um,
we went up that and drove a half mile too long pond and it clicks had to be nervous and it was 12 05 like we gained an hour just driving a half mile up to the wrong side of road I did it at talladega one time same deal I was you know within a mile of the racetrack and we were sitting there dead stop and I was like I'm just gonna venture on over here in this left lane and I did and I'm creeping me and my buddy Christi's he was with me and I creep for about I don't know three quarters of a mile cop jumps out in front of me what the a fuck are you doing?
have you lost your mind.
I was like,
now by now,
other people
had started to follow me.
I said,
there's a cop back there
for us to use this lane.
Which is a lie.
And then he was like,
well,
just get back over.
And I was like,
but I did what you did.
I made up a bunch of time.
You had,
like you had to.
Like,
I would have missed my meeting.
I would have been pushing
an hour before the race to get there.
I just hate fans missed the start.
And yeah,
that sucks.
And listen,
this is on Pocono.
They got to get a better plan.
And to their credit,
they did put out a statement there.
If you were affected by it,
they're going to try to make it right, which I don't know what they're going to do.
So if you just go to their website and you fill out their feedback form.
A good problem to have.
No, it's not.
No.
Well,
it's obviously good that we have a lot of people there,
but you have to do a better.
The amount of people that come there to fill that grandstand.
When's the last time you missed a start of a sporting event?
Because of traffic.
Well,
I leave super early.
This one because of traffic.
This was a problem.
This was, yeah.
This was a Kentucky all over again.
Yeah.
That's what Nick said.
Nick's like,
this must be the worst traffic ever.
I was like,
Kentucky tops.
I remember I think Denny walked to the racetrack in Kentucky.
But anyway, I had one of the team, I don't even know what the hell is title,
a team president.
I seen him walking down the street yesterday.
And he's like, I think they hired the people that did the first Texas race and the first
Kentucky race to come here and get this line up.
It does.
To me, it should, it should flow.
There's all there's, when you go in the tunnel, most time they wave to the right.
If you have a credential, you go to the right lane, well, they were making to go to the right.
And then you still go there and stop.
That lane should never stop moving.
you know what I mean
you shouldn't have the car up there
Hey am I at the right gate?
Well like like you I don't even know
I didn't go at the front today so that yesterday
So I don't know what it was like out front
But like there should be like like New Hampshire does a really good job of
All the traffic is flowing into the racetrack when we're going and then there's maybe one lane
But it's like three or four lanes.
Yeah
Yesterday it was one lane going in up Longpon and one and there was a lane coming out.
I'm like well who's leaving like we're an hour before the race like who's coming out of the tunnel to leave now?
But it definitely was.
worse than what I expected.
Yeah, it was bad.
Well, going back to racing,
Exfinity and Truck Series race again.
I mean, Exfinity, I feel like
takes the cake, but
truck series, would y'all think?
I feel like there was some drama that we'll get
to a little bit later, but
on track product.
Newsflash, Corey Heim
and Christian Eckus happen to be
very good.
Their trucks are very fast. I seen Tray
Ryan share a tweet that was like,
They've led, two guys have led 51% of the, the laps this year.
Yeah.
That's ridiculous.
It's embarrassing if you're the rest of the field.
Like, I think if you're a crew chief and a driver in that series, you need to get off your ass.
Like what?
I mean, these guys, they're, it's not even a race.
This isn't Kyle Bliss driving these trucks.
I mean, they're, listen, they're talented guys.
I'm not saying they're not good drivers.
That's exactly what I was saying.
You know, could you imagine if Kyle was in them trucks?
You know what I mean?
Like, these guys are really good, but the trucks that are driving.
that they're driving really good.
I mean,
congrats to, you know.
But like the thing that,
like they have teammates.
Like that's,
so what's the solve?
Especially if there's no
as well.
I don't,
I don't think necessarily,
you know,
you can say,
I mean,
Jimmy Johnson would win 12 races a year,
10 races a year.
Oh yeah.
He had teammates too.
Where did they well,
you know what I mean?
So it's just,
you don't,
we don't see this often.
You know,
I mean,
there's no,
like we,
like,
and then I don't even know where to go.
Who's the next step down,
Mijewski.
You know what I mean?
Like, I don't, Raja.
You know, it's, you see guys like, you do quite frequently see Grant sneak up there,
but he's never, it takes him the race to get there.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
Grant's a good, he's a good, he knows how to put together a race.
It seems like the Thorisport trucks just don't have as much speed right now.
It is what they've had in the past.
So usually they're right there.
Contending.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I don't know, man.
I mean, if you'd ask me a couple of years.
years ago, the McAnally truck would be that, you know, he, he, they've done a really good job.
Who's crew chief in those trucks?
Charles, uh, I don't know how to say.
Lue and down, Denicki.
No.
Tonight, I don't even know.
He was, he was, he was there like at the end of the deal.
He was Grant's crew chief when Grant was a GMS and then Grant replaced him with Hensley probably.
I can't remember. Uh, and then Charles came over there like the second half of the year when I was spot for Derek in the 19.
And then, uh, he stayed on and, and, and I mean, they took off.
I mean, that truck calls it.
Those two, I mean, say what you want.
The two of them, they dominate the series.
That's a good point.
Derek destroyed every truck they had.
Yeah, they had to get a whole new, they had to get a whole new fleet.
So it's Derek.
Derek gets credit for how fast they are.
Yeah.
Research and development program.
Clearly.
Have we heard anything around if they are remaining in the truck series next year moving on?
I think Corey is going to remain in the truck series.
Really?
yeah I think so I don't know for sure to me he needs to move where's he gonna go like hopefully a good car yeah that the problem is like that's that's great that's that's that is you're I don't know you are absolutely right unfortunately for him I don't know that that's available yeah I don't know if Sam Hunt is you know he I don't like Sam Hunt's got like they're there he overachieves in that car at times and runs top 10 top five but what would you rather do win every truck series race or or go run top
10 in the Sam Hunt car because I think that's his best
I'll double the money. Yeah.
Well. Yeah. It's expensive. Yeah. Oh, you're saying
charged double the money. Yeah. I was just I don't think he's making double the money.
No, no, no, no. I mean, I don't know what his deal is in a truck series, but I would be
restructuring my bonus program. Yeah. It's yeah. So we talk about winning at all cost and
that's, I think that that makes the most sense for him.
To me, he's on the verge of if you stay there too long, you start becoming that.
You know what I mean?
And then when you move up, you race differently.
And he's young enough now and to where if he moves, I feel like he would adapt quick.
But if you, you know that mentality of the Truxswain mentality is different.
Oh, yes.
And if you stay there too long, you kind of adapt that.
And I don't know if you can ever get rid of it.
I mean, he's obviously, I think he's more than ready to go cup racing tomorrow.
It's just where are you going to go?
I think there's five or six guys that are ready to go cup racing tomorrow.
So, skip Xenity.
from Austin Hill to Jesse Love to Chandler Smith to Sam Mayer to Corey Hyam.
Like there's there's probably more talent outside of the Cup series is Cup Ready right now,
potentially than ever before.
I don't know if Jess.
I think Jesse's on a great path.
I think he's in a good Exfitting car.
He's learning.
He's faster every week.
And he's in the,
he's still learning.
I think he needs a good solid couple years of Xfinity in a good car and then go on.
The thing like the thing is, and you, I mean,
you're working with Chandler now.
like if you're advising somebody like Chandler like don't the cup series is the cup series like
the allure of going cup racing but at the same time do you want to just be a 25th place cup
tribe like if you're going to get in something like John Hunter did it you know when he got in that
38 car he ran he overachieved at the time of the 38 car but nobody even knew he was out there really
you know aside from us you know whoever was talking about him he goes back and dominates truck
series for a little while and wins races and he's going he's right back to it but now I'm sure
you know, he, it's a better
company, I guarantee than what he had then.
Yeah, I think the legacy thing, I wish somebody could really dive deep into
why do they not have as much speed as we think they should have?
Because I think there's some disconnect.
Eric was fast this weekend on what they signed up for when they signed up for Toyota versus what they're getting.
I don't know.
I think that they're getting exactly what they thought they were going to get.
You know, I don't think so.
I do.
I think that they knew.
I think I agree with Brett because I think they're,
I think they thought they'd be faster right now.
I'm sure they thought they would be better.
But they are getting, I think, what they were promised.
It's not like they were promised something from Toyota.
And listen, I don't know the inner workings of it, but they were never going to be a Gibbs.
You know, I think they were, they were always going to be on their own little island.
You got a convincing me that Jimmy Johnson is going to switch, make a lateral move to another manufacturer.
The thing is, I would, I would argue that there may be not as fast as they were.
Oh, 100%.
They were not as, they're nowhere near as far.
fast as they were last year when they were getting no, I'm sure they were getting no support
from Chevy after they announced they were going to Toyota in the middle of the year.
They, I mean, Eric was much better.
I think Dave Ellens is a top 12 crew chief in the cup garage.
And obviously, like you said, they had a good run yesterday.
But in general, like, man, they're, they're lacking.
They're trying to put it together.
And I don't think they can publicly say what it is, but I think we're all trying to put it together.
But I think there's rumblins, though.
They're not.
I don't know.
Oh, you've heard.
Fennick tricky situation.
I don't ask you one more thing.
I heard a lot, but I'm not telling you.
Stuart House racing drivers, three are on the move.
Brian Priest, what happens?
For Ryan, same thing that I think we talk about with everybody else.
You got to go back and win somewhere.
Like, I mean, you could probably maybe hang on and get a place like Rick Ware or something.
But I think Ryan's in the cup series next year.
I do.
Where?
I mean, I don't think he's going back.
I mean, I don't know.
The problem is where do you go?
I don't know what I mean? The only thing, there's a seated front row open.
There's one there.
Let me ask you this.
All this charter talk, which has kind of been quiet over the last couple of weeks compared
to what it was.
If NASCAR's all about a new manufacturer coming in here, which is why they did all this
crap they've done, what are you going to do with a new manufacturer comes in and there's no
charters available?
I'm assuming you hope a.
But if you're a 36 car field and Honda walks in tomorrow says we want to fill four teams three years from now, where are they going to get the charters from?
You're going to have to take over a team that's already existing, which they can't because it's going to be the only three charters per organization.
Which, let's talk about that for a minute.
All right.
You're Hendrick and you have four, right?
You're Gibbs and you have four.
You're Stuart Haas racing and you have four.
Stuart Haas says we're selling three of ours.
All right.
Who is in the driver's seat with the charters?
In my mind, it's Penske.
because Penske has three.
The Wood brothers have one,
and the Wood brothers can expand to three.
So now Penske can be in control of six charters.
Yeah.
And you heard of it?
You mean, you think of it like that?
Well, I mean, you could also say the same thing.
And listen, I don't know any inner workings of my place,
but Gibbs is no different.
But you're independent to more of a degree from Joe Gibbs racing
than the Wood brothers are.
Are we?
No, I don't agree with that at all.
we have a airspeed's amazing
at least you got a building
that's a functioning shop
I know Denny loves that word
And Denny definitely wouldn't
take stuff from fast cars
And put it in his own cars over there
You know
He would never do that
They're definitely separate
TJ is either
So you think Gibbs is a seven car team next year
To me
2311 is a Gibbs car basically
So you think there's seven car team next year
essentially.
Yeah, they could be if they get a charter, yeah.
Could be.
Three for thought.
I mean, it's, everyone knows they work.
I mean, there's no way they don't, all them crew chiefs, I'm sure, meet, I mean, talk and.
Well, apparently there's meetings where all the drivers get together because there was an altercation recently.
Yeah, yeah, what happened there.
So what you got, Casey, anything new?
What?
What?
You don't want to talk about it?
I wasn't there.
I don't know anything about.
About what?
Speaking of altercations that I imagine might be more willing to talk about, you,
Brett, you obviously work with Chandler now.
What happened between him and San Marius on Saturday?
He felt like, hold on.
Freddy's mad about something.
He's slammed his hand down.
I am all about Chandler wanting to fight.
You got to take your head sock off before you go yell at somebody.
Yes, head sock on.
They took his helmet off.
Yes.
He had his helmet off and his head sock on.
Maybe he would look like a ninja.
you can't be taken seriously when you're yelling at somebody's your head socks.
Ninjas wear head socks.
Yeah, I'm sorry.
I didn't mean an interview.
Do you think Chandler's got any ninja in him?
Do you think,
Chandler's legs?
I don't even know what to compare him to.
I've never,
I really want Chandler and Parker Redsloff to fight each other.
Oh my gosh.
It'd be the chicken leg fight of the century.
I told you.
It looked like the strings on a ceiling fan swinging at each other.
I bet Chandler can squat more than you can.
He might tap.
His leg will snap.
That's what I'm thinking.
I don't know about that.
Anyway, I'm sorry.
I doubt that.
What was your question, Casey?
Yeah.
What did Chandler, what was his reasoning that he told you?
I think he was upset with how Sam was on his door trying to make him wreck for three laps.
And, you know, I talked to Chandler after the race, and that doesn't mean he's going to listen to me.
But you got to let that stuff go and you got to focus forward.
And what you don't need to worry about at this point in the season when you're sitting there with the second most wins in the series of the guys.
that are running full time is what somebody else is doing.
You got to worry about what you're doing.
And it's easy to get upset.
It's easy to get mad.
But, you know, hopefully he's got a clearer mind today than he did after the race.
But listen, it's great that people are mad at each other.
That's what makes this sport wonderful.
It's old Sam went in there and dumped SVG.
Was it SVG?
Dude.
Just ran over it.
Just ran right over.
And that typical driver, I don't have no brakes.
That's a lie.
You stop the next time.
So I love when drivers screw up and they're like,
Oh, so what did Sam do to Chandler?
They just to race a hard.
What do you do?
Race him hard.
Yeah, I mean, I think he was on his door.
He's on his door, getting him loose.
Driving like we're in a truck series.
It's like that kid that races to hell out everybody in the middle, in the back half of the Xfinity.
What's his name?
Tyler Young's guy.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
Honeyman.
Oh, yeah.
I told Tyler, I'm like, this kid's going to wreck your because he, well, I'm talking.
When I say on your door for 25th, like, every time you get around it's, he's on.
He's on your door.
I got on him in Nashville about it.
I'm like, do you want us both to wreck?
Like, for literally 25th of the time, I'd like not to have to say hold the break and for,
and, uh,
so you have to tell your driver,
you have to talk them through crashing too.
Uh, well, when you got a guy.
Put your head back.
You just, yeah, lean your head back.
Is that still a thing?
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, I don't know.
I'm asking for this week.
Yeah.
I don't know.
Listen, Indie and Pogano, you don't want to wreck there.
that you want a wreck anywhere, but man, there ain't a slow place at Indianapolis.
And the angles we're going to have this thing you're going to be great.
Speaking of wrecks, did you see that IndyCar wreck?
Yeah.
Yesterday.
I somebody, I think you said it to be those Halo bars saved at least two lives, lives.
I saw the one where the guy flipped and basically landed on his head.
That guy, that was, that was.
And then the end of that clip that I saw, somebody drives right over to the top of a guy's head, basically.
Like, thank God they put those bars in.
That shows you how on edge those cars are because the guys behind it,
They saw the wreck up there.
Who was wrecking?
I don't even know.
It was Carpenter.
Well, Stingray Rob was the guy that went upside down.
What a name.
The guy that.
Kirkwood, yes.
Kirkwood.
So one of them loses it off at two when they see the wreck by themselves.
And they spin down to the bottom.
And I guess they,
a couple more did the same thing.
And they just kind of met.
Something happened to Rossi's car.
That car had to slow.
Ended up spinning wrecking.
Yep.
But thankfully they,
willpower.
Thankfully.
Willpower.
And they were all.
Indy car drivers have cooler names
in our names.
They do.
Sting Ray Rob,
Willpower.
Sting Ray Rob.
What a name.
What's the name?
What do you?
Does he have a middle name?
Is it Ray?
Is that it?
Ray, Rob.
We call TJ Seahorse.
Seahorse.
Seahorse.
Seahorse majors.
Call you C. Biscuit.
All right.
We're going to take a quick break.
When we come back,
we will chat more
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Spot off.
Spot off.
Spot on. It was super fun yesterday to ride her out, Mairn.
I am spot off.
Damn.
Where do you come from?
First topic.
In silly season news, last week,
Spire Mother Sports announced
they've signed Cup championship-winning
crew chief Rodney Childers
to a multi-year deal,
a multi-year deal starting next season,
seeing him helm the number seven team of Corey LaJoy.
Spot-on, spot-off, Brett.
I'm spot on for Spire.
You know, I don't think I've ever seen a team invest more
into drivers, crew chief, spotters, crew guys in general
than what they've done in the last two years.
I mean, this is a team that we said on this show,
it seems like three or four years ago,
they didn't even have a car.
They had charters and were just farming out everything, right?
So to see the progress they made is something unprecedented for me.
Rodney Childers, probably the biggest crew chief free agent on the market, very surprised that he ended up at Spire.
There was rumors that he was going to Gibbs with Noah at one point.
There was rumors that he was going with Josh the 21.
And for whatever reason, some of those things didn't pan out.
and I feel like Rodney, to some degree, probably got to pick where he went, you would think.
I think what's going to be interesting for me is I remember where Rodney walked in the garage with a Jasper crew shirt on.
You know, that was early 2000s maybe.
And then I had an opportunity to work with him when we were at Evanham with Elliot Sadler.
And probably the biggest thing that I think we all are going to have hanging over our heads here is he's never been in a crew chief situation at a high level without OEM support.
and so what is that going to look like?
I mean, I think when he was with Riggs at MBV or MB2 or whatever they call that place,
he wasn't there long and he and Riggs moved to Avernham together.
And Abraham had obviously top-notch Dodge support.
So I'll be curious to see, you know, what he's able to do.
And this puts a ton of pressure on Corey Lajoy.
And obviously, as a race car driver, you want to know that your cars are going to be faster.
You have to think Rodney's going to make them faster.
But in my opinion, host of our run,
On average, 10 spots better than LaJoy does during a race.
It seems like Hose L'R's right around 15th, and Corey's, you know, eight to 10 spots
worse.
You ain't going to be able to do that with Rodney Chiltern's his crew chief.
So you're going to have to come up with a new hashtag, a new podcast name, because you can't
say you're stacking pennies anymore.
You barely be stacking top tens.
And I think he's got like nine in his career, one this year.
You can't be a race 20-ish with Rodney Childers as your crew chief and have one top ten.
And I'm pretty sure none of them, everything's been at a drafting track, all his top tens.
Very good at Atlanta.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Should have won that race, whatever that was last year, two years ago.
Yeah, two years ago.
And like to your point, Spire gets their guy.
Listen, we talked about this last year.
We're talking about spotters.
Spire is doing whatever it takes to get the people they want.
And you saw when they said, like Rodney said, these people are invested.
Well, they're invested.
They're paying top dollar for any position they want.
And to your point, Corey's going to have a championship winning crew chief,
probably going to have a championship winning spotter.
This is the best position Corey's ever been in.
What is, what is a successful season next year?
They have to make the playoffs, right?
I mean, I don't think you have to make the playoffs,
but you've got to bust off some top tens.
And you can't.
can't continue to just be completely irrelevant.
You better be in the ballpark of that final transfer spot if you don't have a win with Rodney Chiltern's there.
And if you're investing that much, that you have to be, you have to be there.
I mean, you might.
And if you don't, I'm not saying you have to win, but you better be consistent.
You better be in the talk of that spot, I think.
Where's Josh at?
Is that you looking at?
No, I'm curious right now with what TJ just said, is anybody inside of the playoff picture,
locked into the playoff picture that isn't OEM Tier 1 support?
No, probably not.
So I don't know why you think that magic button's going to come.
You think Rodney's that good?
I think Rodney's smart.
It's going to be hard to have wins,
but I do think Rodney knows how to put his guy in position.
Look at Josh.
He's put Josh in position this year.
You know, he was leading races.
He's been leading races.
He had a good track position this week.
Got shuffled out in one.
one, I think, on a restart, but he was in the top 10.
And I think Rodney's a smart enough to call a good race to stack them solid.
He's not going to get single-digit finishes, but he's the guy that can get the 10th to
15th area quite a bit.
I think he's got to have top tens.
I think he has to.
If you're not a playoff driver, you have to at least be the flagship of that company, I think.
You know, I mean, you can't have Carson outrunning you every week like he does now.
Hoseilar has more top tens.
Oh, by the way, he's a rookie.
He has a better average finish.
Like, he has more speed.
More fines.
And McDowell's going to come in there and do the same thing.
You know, McDowell's going to run too soon.
What did you say?
More fines, too?
I think it's a huge hire for Spire.
And I think it's a good thing for Rodney.
And listen, I heard that he could have been the general manager of multiple teams,
and he didn't want to do that.
And he said point blank to me, I don't want everybody coming to me with their problems.
That's what general managers deal with.
I want to go out and still win races and compete to win races.
So he's not going here to not win races.
And I hope he does win races.
The question is, is Corey LaJoy ready?
Ready, I can't talk.
Ready to win races.
Yeah.
To your point, like Rodney had options and he chose this one.
So he believes in something over there.
So it'll be addressed to see what happens.
On another Cori Lejoy topic, during a Cs 3 restart,
Corey Lejoy was blocked by Kyle Busch going into turn one.
LaJoy turned Bush when driving from the apron back onto the banking.
When asked about the incident post race, he said,
I'm sure he's mad.
I'm sure there were guys that got caught up that were mad,
but I didn't feel like it was a boneheaded move.
Freddie, do you feel like this was a boneheaded move?
Unfortunately for Corey, there's an instant replay.
because I saw the one thing where he said he blocked me
and then he blocked me again.
Well, that didn't happen.
The second by didn't happen.
Yeah, there is no such thing as a second block and a hook.
There was a block and what happened was
and Kyle threw kind of a late block.
But even the first plot, Corey ran into him.
Corey ran into him.
And I think probably thought he damaged his car.
And because I mean, he hit him pretty hard.
And then he just shipped him.
Like he just drove into his left for him into.
turn one on a restart where we're already 17 wide getting down in there.
You know, like that's something you can't do.
How?
Like you can't do that because you're going to wreck.
I mean, how many guys got wrecked there?
I know two or three or three that got out of the race.
And then there was four or four more that had damage.
I know it took Stenhouse out.
It took pre-s out.
It took obviously Kyle out.
Yeah.
21.
And the guy who starts it.
It's fine.
Drove's right by.
I was off.
You just, listen, we.
I talked about this when this happened a couple weeks ago.
How is this?
Like you gave the Riggs kid a reckless driving penalty a couple weeks ago.
I mean, it was something that went off for a couple laps.
And he drove in the corner and turned to him.
This is where that penalty needs to be applied again, I think.
Because this guy just recklessly goes in there, wipes Kyle Busch out and then decides it just wrecks six other guys.
So when NASCAR goes to review this, TJ, is this something to look at SMT data?
No, no, this looks like a.
It looks like a racing incident to most, but I mean, but you know it's not.
I mean, I don't know what his intentions were.
I know what it looks like.
You don't?
I mean, to me, he came back up in 10.
And I don't know if he meant to hook him and take out of them cars, which I'm sure he didn't.
But that was a reaction that he made at the time.
And it got the other cars.
But, you know, I think there's a, when two guys are going at it for a couple laps and you can see it building.
and then one guy just straight up wrecks the other guy
you have to probably
I get I agree with you
but nobody the only people that were affected
in that wreck were Lane Riggs and
Stephen Parsons because they were going out of this wreck
this guy drives in there cleans him out and wrecks six
other guys for no reason maybe he did mess up
oh he messed up maybe maybe right
it was the second it was the second block
that did it maybe I know that the crew chief said
he got what he deserved
on the radio and
yes, the broadcast covered it.
But it wasn't
Corey that said it.
You can't do that.
You cannot turn a guy into one on a restarted
a Pocono.
Like intentionally.
And it looked to me like it was intentional.
Maybe it's cool shirt
quit working.
Brett.
I think
if it wasn't intentional,
what was it?
An accident.
You misjudge something by that many feet.
It was the second block.
That's a lie.
There was no second block.
And the first block I said it earlier, you ran into it.
Here's what I feel bad for, and I ever thought I'd say this.
I feel legitimately bad for Kyle Busch.
Could he have had a worst weekend?
It was not going well.
He had steering issues.
Then he had oil leak.
Then he was dumped.
Losses breaks in the race.
They had break issues in the race, I think.
Like, there's some weekends you just want to have them back.
That's a weekend where you never want to have back.
like let me move forward and focus on Indy.
And I would bet that that team shows up with a lot more speeded Indy without all the
demons in the car.
But Corey looks,
Corey makes himself look really bad here.
And his comments make him look worse,
saying the second block and the crew chief saying,
I don't know the crew chiefs.
Yeah, but I mean, Corey was the one driving.
Sparks.
Like if he said he got what he deserved,
what did he deserve?
He blocked you.
You ran into him when he blocked you.
I think he got what he deserved when you ran into him.
And then did you get mad because you thought he messed up
nose when you ran into him, you ran into him, right?
Do we all agree with that?
Yes.
Yeah.
And then you dumped him after you ran into him.
So I don't know what, like if this were to go to trial, a jury would 100% convict
Corey LaJoy of stacking Cowbush.
Stacking race cars in turn one.
Yeah.
Did Kyle get anything from Wilkesboro?
I don't think anything in race like that.
this deserves a penalty. And I know, I know there's differences of opinions on this,
but for me, this is part of racing. This is part of NASCAR. If we want to police this like some of
the other series, i.e. road course races or, you know, whatever in Australia. Like, if we want to
police it that way, then you got to come out and say it because half of our fans are still
hanging on, the boys have at it. So if you're abandoning that philosophy and you're now going to
have a system in place that says Lane Riggs shouldn't do this, Corey LaJoyce shouldn't do this,
Bubba Wallace shouldn't do this.
Like, you got to come out and say it.
You can't just start.
I mean, you can.
I remember back in the day, I remember back in the day they'd sit you on pit road for five laps
or they'd put you on your lift gate for doing something stupid.
But you kind of knew it.
Now it's like we've abandoned that.
Well, that's my problem.
That's my issue is I'm not saying that Corey should have got a penalty.
But a couple weeks ago, you gave La Riggs kid a penalty for reckless driving.
this is one of the most reckless things you can do on the racetrack.
You know, it's like, so where do you draw the line?
That's why I said he probably shouldn't have penalized that kid either.
But, you know, it's just, I don't know.
I mean, it's hard to be consistent.
It was close enough that it looked like Corey could have misjudged it.
I'm just saying if you didn't know, he was lawyer.
I'm just saying, like when you got two guys that are that one guy runs another gap in the corner,
you just goes on and sends you like, like Lane did.
That's blatant.
Oh, for sure.
The Lane deal was, it was when,
went on for four laps before that.
But yeah, this, like, it's just this can't happen.
Before we move on and while we're on the topic of penalties,
Freddie has to resurface last week with Bubba.
Do you feel the penalty was fair for what he received?
No.
I mean, I thought he should have got fine probably, if anything.
At 50,000 is a lot of money for that.
And when you see, you go back and look.
I mean, Martin Truex had a demolition derby after Richmond running into
Ranan Larson, ran into Danny, you know, like it's,
the shit happens every week.
We talked about it last week.
And it's just, I mean, like Danny said, I agree with Danny.
The reason why he got fined was it was the winner.
The winner was on TV live when it happened.
You're showing it when it happened.
I don't know why that matters.
It should be the same for every.
everybody. But, you know, if there, there's a lot of backlash about it, obviously Bubba's going to
always generate some kind of, you know, reaction on social media. So if that's what they were
reacting to, so be it. I thought it probably should have been a fine. I don't know if 50 grand was
was the right number. But it's just, it's just, it's frustrating to see. Can I say something right here?
Okay. No. Why in the. Would you take off your seatbelts before you get to wherever you're going?
I have, I mean, that's like wearing a seatbelt for 95% of the ride,
but then when you turn down your road and you got a mile left,
you take your seat butt off.
It should be a rule that you have to stay buckled in until your car becomes parked
on Victory Lane.
I'm sick and tired of hearing about my belts were unbuckled.
Well, stay the buckled up.
Was that in?
You had dumb buckled your belts.
Did that happen?
Yeah, he was unbuckled.
Well, he wrecked himself?
Any pilot that you've ever flown with, any pilot that you've ever flown with,
How many times have you flown where you could see the pilots in an airplane?
I mean, when do they unbuckle?
I don't know.
Yeah, not until you're stopping.
I would assume when they stop?
When the plane stops and everybody's getting ready to get out.
So stop unbuckling.
Listen, the guy that should be thanking somebody, Chase Elliott should thank,
who was it, Hemrick?
I think it was Hemrick that was behind Sores when Chase pulled in front of and locked the brakes up.
But thank God's, Hemrick was paying attention and didn't just run straight
back of Suarez when they stopped in front of him because that's probably saved him
50,000 dollars.
He slams the brakes in front of him and Daniel hits him.
Is there anything?
I don't know.
That's what I'm saying.
If he gives Chase a concussion when he hits him.
Well, he would have hit Suarez.
But, well, I'm saying, that's why.
That's why.
Chase break check.
Yeah.
Yeah.
He said Daniel, Daniel would have hit Suarez.
Yeah.
He's saying, I'm saying if Daniel had hit Chase.
Oh, Daniel would hit Chase.
Yeah.
And Chase gets a concussion for break checking.
it's we get whatever it's I'm just tired of hearing about those unbuckled well you've been
in the damn seatbelt for four hours what's one more minute how that's exactly about how long
it takes you to get back that probably this is I just I don't know it happens every week after
a race whether if you win I mean if we're racing and I think I told us Del Jr like if I was
racing we were in the same race and I won or he won I'm going to go up there running them
you know, like,
congratulating because that's what a lot of guys do.
Bubba might have said that yesterday.
Why?
Because his buddy won.
And he's like,
will they find me if I run into?
Well,
that's what I'm saying.
Like,
I don't know.
I don't,
I can see the upset.
I would have been pretty upset if I got wrecked by a guy and he won the race as well.
I'd want him to know my displeasure.
And I think Bubba made a point of it.
Listen,
there's no secret.
Bubba has struggled on road courses for a long time.
And he's put in the work to get much better.
And he was having the.
best road course race of his life and gets wrecked, you know, and that that leads into it also.
It's just, I don't know. It's, it is what it is. You're not going to change it so there's no
point in arguing about it. Alex texts him. That makes it okay. I thought that was hilarious too.
I texted him, try to call him. Dude, he was a hundred feet from you. Walk down there and talk to him.
I see the baby. Obviously, people are irrational when it comes to Bubba sometimes. People's irrational.
They're like, Bubba should have went down there and talk to him during the break. I'm like,
Bubbo go down and say what?
Like, you wrecked me?
Like, shouldn't it be the other way around?
Yeah, I think, yeah.
Bubon's hot.
When's a race, third this week?
Coming off two injuries and listen, man, it takes time.
Chicago's the surprise.
I would expect Alex.
Concussion injury and the back injury.
And here he is.
I expect that Alex to be good at Pocono.
I mean, that's one of his best tracks.
But the Chicago, it's a big win for him.
Yeah.
On the topic of Truck Series,
The truck series race had a controversial mid-race rule change in the closing laps.
With only eight laps remaining, the red flag was displayed due to adverse weather conditions.
The drivers returned to the race under caution, but only two laps later, another stoppage followed.
Initially, NASCAR's decision was not to include these caution laps in the overall count.
However, officials later declared that these laps would indeed count effectively reducing the race to a mere six laps.
resulting in a frenzy sprint to the checkered flag.
T.J.
spot on, spot off.
I forgot everything.
She just said it.
That was a very long.
That was a very long.
I know.
We could have probably done that ourselves.
TJ should the collapse of a calendar.
Basically should the car.
We cross the line.
The only thing they didn't do differently,
they put us in our stalls,
which they have been doing,
but we still all crossed the line.
Instead of lining them up before
the start, finish line,
and covering them all up out there.
And now we're stopping in our stalls.
To me, the labs should absolutely still count.
You're still crossing a line.
I mean, you're still running a lap.
They were in a time.
I sit on here last week that I hate changing the rules mid-race.
And I think this one is, I think they got it right.
At the end of the day, they got it right.
Because you have guys.
You got to count.
You have guys that are stretching fuel.
Well, that's, that was a thing.
And they're getting close to running out.
Now you basically ran two laps that didn't count.
You know?
I can tell you who was right on the edge was Lamber's guy.
I think Lambert was trying to hold court up there.
It was like, and this is coming from the NASCAR side of it, the teams ask for this.
The teams ask to go to their pit boxes versus lining up on pit road so you don't have to chase your car around whatever.
They like the driver.
If it starts pouring and you can get out and get cover.
I think, I honestly think you have to go back to that.
If you're going to do this because what the problem is you go to your pit stall, well, half
the guys cross start finish line half the guys don't so now if we don't get restarted like if you're
counting these laps like technically these guys are going to be ahead of the guys that are behind the
pit, you know, the start finish line. So they came up with the idea, all right, we're just not going to
count this lap. Well, you can't do that. Like it's you still ran the lap. Well, you know,
whatever was we ran a lap. Well, we were coming to pit road. So we ran a lap. They're like,
all right, you got to come to pit road. So then we, all right, drive the track, whatever. We go back out.
As soon as we go back out, it starts raining again. And they're like, okay, we're going to bring you
back. We're not counting this lab either. So you're like, wait a. You're like, wait.
minute. We just ran two laps of fuel. That doesn't count. Like, has this work. Yeah, you got to count
them. I cross the line. I think that they just need to go back to what, like they did in Chicago.
They did it in Chicago. They, they, we went red, we came down pit road. We stopped before the start,
finish line, two by two. I get it. It's easier for the teams if you get a pit box. But just to
keep everything clear and everything uniform. I think you just go back to what we've always done.
And count the lap if we all cross. Yeah, just count the lap. You can still put them in the pistol.
you know the running order.
Yeah, I mean, I guess it's frozen.
If the running order stays insane.
They did that in Chicago, too, right?
There was one time where they did that.
They had them parking their pit stops.
And then they just ordered everyone by lineup to come down.
Yeah, they call you up by your.
They could just be convoluted, I think.
I think it's the easiest way to do it is just line them up, roll them down pit road,
stop them before the start, finish line.
And everybody's on the same page at that point.
You know, it's just, I don't know.
It's just, but they did they, at the end of the day,
they did the right thing by adding the laps back, I think.
Brett, you're awfully quiet.
I followed this on Twitter.
I didn't see it live, and I think it's, you have to, these guys are right.
You cross our finish line.
It's a lot.
Common sense.
All right.
Well, spot on, spot off.
In stage three during a critical stop, Kyle Larson, Ty Gibbs, Chase Elliott, and Daniel
Sures were all hit with speeding penalties in Section 7 of Pitt Road.
Spot on, spot off.
T.J. again.
Spot on
if you got track position from it.
Yeah, we gained four spots.
Yeah, I mean, it's nothing, nothing.
So let me ask you this.
We went pre-race roll
and the teams have this mapped out.
They can tell you what sections are going to be hot.
Surprisingly, we have
Section 13 is a notorious
hot section at Pocono.
So that was one we were talking about maybe changing lights.
We roll our pit road and I, Tyler,
luckily for us, for us, we qualified 80.
So Tyler was up front
Tyler rampant road and slowed down
For the section 13
And we're like we're just gonna run through straight
And see what it's like you know
What the lights look like
So we were close to speeding
But but JR our engineer goes
Freddie the whole field
Sped in section 7
He said I don't know what's changed
And that's I don't know what would change there
The lines aren't really moving
So I don't know what the difference is
But he's like literally the whole field
He's like I think all but four cars
Sped
Was that an issue in the past?
No
It was, but not in that section.
Yeah.
It was there.
I remember spot in race for Jeff Burton and Pocono and man, everybody was getting popped in that whatever section 13 or whatever it was.
So what do you think it was?
I don't know.
You think you think you think they were speeding?
Do you think the whole field sped section seven?
Something changed.
They were definitely speeding.
I mean, they were, yeah, they spent.
I mean, there's no, there's no, they time it, you know, they have, they, I think Danny ran, I saw a Lambert on the plane last night.
then he ran like 60.03 or something like that, which is 0.03 over.
We changed our lights.
We changed our lights.
We had to change your lights after the practice role.
And I don't know if these guys didn't change their lights or just didn't change your lights enough.
So to add context, Kyle Larson did tell Cliff Daniels on the radio that he never saw his blue light come on on the dash.
So maybe that goes to your point about not changing the lights.
Yeah.
Well, when we say change lights, the lights in the car don't change.
the what we're telling our drivers instead of uh i was too green instead of two green i ran one down
the whole pit road just to be safe yeah so whether it flashed real quick or not or that's a that's a
issue with that's their deal programming too so yeah and it's i mean it was ironic that it all
happened basically at the same time and i was asking like if it's been historically an issue because
blaney was i think spot up his pit saw was in section seven no that was just coincidence like
i saw somebody saying that he picked that
to kill that zone. But that nobody knew 13, 13 was the hot zone yesterday. And people probably
picked in that section. I think it was like Truex and maybe the 99. I can't remember who else
is over there. They probably picked that section because that's been a notorious hot zone. And that's
what you try to do. If you have a area where you know it's a hot section, you try to kind of pick
there or around there. First you go for the openings. First all openings. Yeah. Oh, yeah.
And so a lot of people like the first all when you get the pit road, uh, or which would have been what,
like 36, whatever they number them now down there.
So it's just, I think it definitely caught everybody off guard before the race.
When we did the practice role and they're like, uh, something's changed because everybody
just sped in section seven.
We did it back it down a lot.
Yeah, we, we, we changed our lights.
You know, and that's, and that doesn't have that rarely happens where you get caught out like,
oh, that's different.
Probably three, four times a year you back it down a little bit.
But yeah, it was, it was when they were, I forget, we came off at road and they're like,
okay.
usually you hear it
you know like 992 fast X and you're like
okay the following cards are speeding
and it was a list of cards you're like
holy what the hell happened
and then you're like all section 7
I was like ah gotcha
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Jay, let's go to the call.
So some people debate whether or not Pocono has three turns, you know, embrace this with the what turn four stickers, whatever you want to call it.
Well, thinking of that, opened up a massive can of turnworm that I never wanted to open.
Turnworms?
If we based it off of how NASCAR actually does their turn counting,
technically Pocono has six turns.
And then when you go back and look at how Pocono was built, obviously,
Tunnel turn, turn two, or actually turn four, three and four, would say it's off Indianapolis.
Even though Indianapolis technically only has four turns, if you count it, how NASCAR does it,
Indianapolis has eight turns.
And then that got me thinking more about the actual triobles.
I mean, shouldn't Daytona, Kansas, Las Vegas, all them, don't they technically have five if you count the triobles?
if you're counting the interest of the
and the exit.
Make it stop. Jesus Christ. Stop.
Like, just stop.
Pretty space though, trying to figure it out might have been.
I would leave it in that too.
I was just hoping to stop talking at some point.
It's a three-turn race track.
Simple.
Jesus.
I'm sorry, y'all.
I don't care what you say about this man anymore.
It's time to have a real conversation about Corey LaJoy or
La Joke or Lafraud.
I don't know what you want to call him now, bro.
How is this man?
Like, still in the Cup series.
Bro, he's being outrun by his teammates.
I mean, honestly, he's really being outrun by his teammates.
He's kind of all these issues.
You can go back to last year of Pocono when he hit the wall,
turn one, lap one, and destroyed his race.
Now he's just fucking Kyle Bush in the middle.
Why?
Bro, I'm tired of this man.
I'm sorry.
Get him out of the seat.
The place him with almost anybody.
Hey,
I don't know anybody else
from that seat at this point, bro.
I'm done with this man.
I'm getting to feel like he's not a Corey the Joy fan.
I'm going to guess he likes Kyle Bush.
You think so?
Maybe.
I think I don't know who he likes,
so I can tell you who he doesn't like.
Yeah.
La fraud.
La Joke.
Poor guy.
I just want to say,
I think that race was kind of a snoo fest.
No shit.
But what I really want to call about,
is the parking situation at the facility.
Holy Moses on a rocket-powered pogoste.
I had to sit in two-and-a-half-hour traffic,
and I was only, I got two miles away from the track.
Do you believe that?
That's crazy.
And then on the way home, the traffic jam,
nobody wanted to let anybody go.
everybody was so rude
he's yelling
yeah I hope he's better today
yeah hopefully he's not still there
I don't think he was there
you think he just read that
I think he read it on Twitter
made it up
nah it's probably
it's possible
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this is this is uh we need to do better
I thought last week was pretty good
you did yeah well you were wrong I got a news flash
too by the way uh Pocono every time we go to Pocono
yeah I mean it's it's a fuel mileage strategy race
and thankfully we have stages that make it that way
because if we didn't have stages
see I disagree with you like I don't like stages there
why I mean well it's a
same as. Denny Hamlin didn't win the race because he had to stay out or elected to stay out to win a stage.
And that I am of the belief that at certain places we should pay the points and just keep going.
And I know we tried it at road courses and it didn't work there. But for me, man, like Pocono, Daytona, Talladega, Atlanta.
You know, and I get it. We got to stop for TV, but TV's going to stop anyway.
We're going to stop. I had to laugh last week. Dale's show, you were there.
he's McDowell put out like in some press conference somewhere that he said they think they should remove stages and Dale's like I don't understand why he thinks that.
That's because he won't fucking indie without stages.
I think you're just glazing Denny right now.
That might have been it.
So but now we're down to the final five races before the playoffs.
Do you see strategy with the stages becoming more of an issue for people who are either on the cut line or?
Listen, Ross Chastain, Bubba Wallace.
and Chris Busher, they need stage points.
And they need them bad.
You know how many points we got combined stage points yesterday between the three of us?
How many?
Zero.
And just think if you'd have gotten seven in each stage.
But it's almost like you have to, in some cases, decide if you want the stage points or the race went, right?
Yeah, but where they're at?
And if your car is fast enough and you do take the stage win and you get back in the soup a little bit, it's harder to get out.
But that's what makes it.
The thing is, like, you choose.
chase, you know, it's easy to say, you go, all right, we just got to stay out here and get
stage points. Well, okay, great. You stay out, you know, people are flipping the stage. You stay
out and you get six stage points. Well, if staying out and getting six stage points caused you
to finish 10 positions worse than a race, well, that's a, that's a minus four. You know what I mean?
Like that's, so I mean, if you get, if you get the stage points and you get a good restart and
you get a few of mad. If you, if you trade off, you know, sometimes people get caught up chasing
stage points and they and they forfeit you know you know whatever the positions are in the race itself
like so it i mean it's it makes it exciting though because the guys that pit before the end of the
stage they come down and obviously the guys that run it out they have a little bit better tires
um you know they you know if you're leading the race like denny and you feel like you might have
the best car and you stay out and get the stage win and come back out your restarting eighth you're
he's going to be aggressive he wants to get back up there and i don't i don't i don't
I think if you don't have stages at Pocono, holy cow.
I mean,
we used to have a 500 mile race there twice a year with those stages.
Remember those days?
I did.
And the two races were what?
Like a month apart at one point.
Literally,
we would go to Pocono.
Three weeks later,
we're going to Pocono again.
Yeah.
And the same conversations came up after that too, though.
Like, hey, how was the race?
Well, I mean, I don't, it's just how Pocono is.
I mean, it's just, it races like a road course because it's so big and you can pit without
getting laughed.
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Moving on to AskDBC.
This first question is from Nathan.
With the return of the Oval at Indy, what is your favorite racing moment of all time at the brickyard?
that when Timmy threw that sandwich
sandwich game
we don't worry about that anymore
that was that was something
yeah they won't let us on the pagoda now
they put us in the I think Raj took over
they put us in the crappy I think Raj turned that
into a personal
a condo or something sweet or something
yeah I can't blame them
I mean it's hard it's hard not to
give credit to the first year we went up there
I think it was 94 I think Jeff Gordon won
Rick Mass maybe sat on a poll
like just
just going there as a fan is unique.
And I've never been anywhere where when you push a car out to qualify and you roll through
gasoline alley, you know, 220,000 people would start clapping.
And for some reason, when we went to the road course versus the Oval, you know, it just
lost its buzz.
And I know that attendance was down, but it just didn't feel like Indy when we went up
there and ran the road course.
So I'm excited to be back on the Oval.
I don't know what the racing is going to be like.
I don't think it's going to be the thrill of a lifetime,
but we don't know.
It may be one of the best races we've ever seen in our lives.
It might be like Pocono.
That's what it's going to be.
With stages, you're going to have guys.
Do you go for the win or do you go for the...
At indie, I'm going for the win.
Well, yeah, especially if you're a top three car and I'm going for the win.
If you're a top three car and I'm going for the win.
Well, let's go back to Nathan's question.
Favorite moment of all time so far.
I think when Tony won was a big deal.
Climb the fence.
That was a big deal.
yeah um mine personally is probably something to do with you i'm getting getting my favorite was when i won with
a j i'm a digger and i got to kiss the bricks but that was that was the road course though i know but it was
it wasn't the break i did it it didn't count it was the road course i'd probably say uh just that was
dale junior ran 12th one day no the race uh you're gonna sound like a jerk here in a second
i always sound like a jerk this i always sound like a jerk this or uh jeff subbed for dale junior
probably was probably and him and Tony did that deal at the end oh they made a lap around together
that was Tony's last race right yeah there there it was his last year and Jeff's too so to see
them kind of ride around there and to that was cool to do that race with Jeff there was pretty neat
very cool Dale Jarrett went on there was cool um I don't know man there's a lot of cool wins there
I can remember the drivers that win the Oval race there quicker than I can remember the
guys on the road course race there. I mean, you look at a kid like Briscoe won the road course
race there. And he got on Victor Elaine and said, I always dreamed to win in here. Yeah.
But it's the road course. You know, like it, it, you could tell in that interview, it took away
from the fact that he won an indie because he won on the road course. I mean, it's still indie,
but, you know, this, this brings it back to more of a, definitely more of a prestigious race,
in my opinion. Like, if you win the brickyard at the big track, you're doing it. Like, it's just,
to me it means more amazing weather this weekend 80 degrees all weekend
it was hot yesterday don't bring that up because Jesus Christ it's going to rain again by any
chance like 12 weeks in a row or so odds are and any dry is quick too it's a small
place I'm sure what's that what's we'll just run away weather tires we'll be fine what
what times race start 2.30 right yeah I think eastern no local 245 local and that is eastern as
well I was going to say it's the same place it's one of the
I don't know.
Oh, it is.
Geography's hard.
Time to.
Okay.
Brain zones are hard.
This next one is for Maddie.
Does Todd Gillen finish above Kyle Bush in points in the regular season?
No.
Where they at?
Right now, Bush is only 25 up on him.
He's had five of the seven worst weeks of his life.
And it has to turn around.
Trey Ryan said, what was it?
It was four out of five weeks the first time in his career that he DNFed.
and now we're up to like you said five out of seven
these guys
he ran like a super late model and something happened
but he did win at Mobridge so
I mean maybe his level turned around
oh yeah the answer the question no I don't think
I mean it's tight and if if Kyle keeps wrecking every week
yeah it's gonna be easy for Todd which Todd had wrecked yesterday
we're gonna have Todd on here pretty soon
to talk about some stuff like that but
yeah it's
I don't think he beats him in points
I think it's tough.
Although the way Kyle season is going,
every week I'm like,
this is the week Kyle rebounds.
Do you think it would be satisfying for Todd to beat Kyle in points?
Remember that exchange on the radio when Todd won?
Oh, yeah.
When he got so upset that he had won.
What do you say?
Stay in your bus or something.
Yeah.
Next one is from Todd.
Really enjoyed.
the portion of the broadcast, yeah.
Really enjoyed the portion of the broadcast where they showed
Ryan Blaney's spotter Tim Fidoa spotting.
With all that talking going on, are the microphones voice
activated or do you have to mash a button every single time?
And who gets to override who if a crew chief and a spotter talk at the same time?
They are not voice activated.
Thank God.
They're not voice activated.
No, we push a button every time and nobody overrides each other.
So, yeah.
Yeah, but I'm saying if we.
both if the crew chief and the spotter talk on channel one at the same time,
it's bra,
you can't understand anything anybody's saying.
So we do have a channel to talk to the crew chief and then a channel to talk to the driver.
But yes,
thankfully,
no,
they are not voice activated.
Thank God.
I mean,
it would make for some great content.
You know how mad those you would be in me?
We probably wouldn't even be friends.
All right.
When we come back from the break,
it's time for one idiot.
What an idiot, man.
I don't have an idiot this.
You don't?
I don't think so.
After sitting in traffic for that long.
I do have an idiot.
I change my mind.
Who's your idiot?
Are we on an idiot?
If you kicked it off yet, I don't remember.
Yeah, we're still rolling.
Who's your idiot?
So my idiot is the guy, so as I was breaking the law,
running up the left lane that I shouldn't have been doing,
we're getting flipped off by.
But it wasn't really you.
It wasn't me.
It was Nick.
Yeah.
Nick Flicks.
Nicklicks.
Some idiot.
I love these people.
Like, you see it on the road.
You know, like if there's a lane closed,
like one truck is going to move over and block the lane that's closed like for a mile.
This guy,
we were coming up the lane and this guy took a chair out of the back of his truck
and sat in the lane that we were running up.
And I was like, look at this.
Maybe he was protesting.
He was not happy about.
We just.
to ruin his day even more,
he forgot there was a shoulder,
apparently, so we just drove
around him while he sat on the road, he's flipping
us all often. Maybe he just likes to
watch traffic. He might have been a traffic
watcher. I don't know what his deal was, but he was an idiot
for sure. Anybody else?
No idiot, Brett? You got some.
Well, I mean, it kind of
goes back to what we were talking about on the pre-race
or pre-show, rather,
where you've got these dumb security guards
that are telling ladies to smile and won't let them
in the garages to do their jobs.
that guy should be fired.
There's a few of them.
It happens a lot.
No woman wants to be looked at and said, smile.
Or I won't let you through.
Or you can't come through here despite the fact that you have credentials.
Like, stop being a loser.
I talked to somebody yesterday.
I don't want to say her name because I don't know if she wants to be mentioned.
But like she said that there's a gate between the cup garage and the Xfinity garage.
And the guard stopped her every time that she walked through.
Oh, you can't come in here.
Like, I mean, he's obviously, I'm assuming he's trying to be flirty.
Whatever.
I'm sure.
It doesn't work.
It doesn't work.
You sure?
I think it's 100%.
It doesn't work.
I can't believe she didn't drop her number off right at the game.
I mean, honestly, if we walked around smiling the entire time, wouldn't that be creepy?
No, I want to see.
Like, if you're trying to get.
Why are you smiling right now, actually?
I mean, Jesus.
Why aren't you?
It's not my job to smile.
It's your job to smile.
Okay.
Nobody tells me to smile at race track.
valid.
What if the next time somebody tells you to smile, Casey, you just say, go
f*** yourself?
I unfortunately am too nice to say it.
That's bullshit.
I think that's my advice to all you ladies out there.
If somebody says smile, you say, go fuck yourself.
Because then once a second, I'm going to say back to that.
He can tell you smile again.
Yeah, but it's not like.
And if he says again, you kick him out of the balls.
Again, too nice.
That might be going across the line.
I might lose my job.
You know who's smiling?
You have a job?
You know who's smiling?
Hopefully.
Casey's nanny because you're going to get a pay raise here in a couple weeks.
What do you mean?
Yeah, let's talk about your nanny for a minute.
You got a nanny?
The show that you missed.
Oh, yeah.
It just so happens that leading into that show, I ran into your nanny at the pool.
And she was telling me some nanny stories.
And so I...
Are you get good stories?
Oh, yeah.
I just can't believe.
that Casey works part-time and has a full-time nanny.
What?
She's going to kick your ass.
Just smile.
Casey, take Brett's advice.
What are you going to say to him?
Go f***.
I don't have a full-time nudge me.
For the record.
That lady lied to you.
Here we.
Yeah.
Which one's lying?
She is like her grandmother to us.
She's a family friends.
That doesn't matter.
And you're that.
That doesn't matter.
No shit.
When you have a significant other that travels every week.
How many kids do you have right now?
One and a half.
One in three quarters.
What are you going to do when you have two?
You have two nannies?
No, one she can make more.
Wait, I wasn't paying attention.
What happened?
I said she has two kids and I just going to eat two nannies.
Right?
Man to man defense.
Yeah.
Or does the half nanny become the full nanny?
I like don't even.
I am way too pregnant to have to deal with this conversation right now.
Same.
All right.
Send the nanny in.
Well, she's with her right now.
But she's like her.
Of course she is.
Why wouldn't she be?
It's what the nannies do.
I literally hate you.
It is hot.
I want a snow cone and I want Jimmy Johns.
Snow cone.
Snow cone, Buffalo, Wilding, salsa.
Oh, Jimmy John.
I can't have Jimmy John.
I cannot wait to have it.
You can't have Jimmy Johns?
Why not?
Because you can't.
When you're pregnant.
So for the record, ass.
I work a lot.
My husband is gone.
I've cleaned out the garage, cleaned out all of our rooms.
I've done all of it myself.
Don't be a jerk.
Who watched the kid when you do that.
There's a mass murder.
What the hell is our address?
I can't remember.
So you going to indie?
I can't travel anymore.
Why not?
Baby watch.
Well.
I think after this week on baby watch.
Baby watch it.
It's like a month, two months.
No,
a month,
right?
You're going to tell me two months left?
No,
it's a month,
right?
Oh,
there's no way.
There's two months left.
It's like,
it's right around my birthday.
But they say 36 weeks on,
you can pretty much have the baby anytime.
So hopefully it won't happen because Chad is still traveling.
So.
Chad,
big milestone for Chad.
Yes.
I saw that your day.
38 wins.
38 wins.
He was mad.
He didn't get to 40,
but.
I got news for you.
He's probably.
we're going to get to 40. I hope he gets
to 100. I would love for him to get the championship.
It's amazing what he can do while getting
that by Casey. I mean, it's amazing. I saw
that tweet. It's, I'm telling
you, he travels more and he's, he
Why do you think he travels more, Casey?
Take a hit. I know. And that's fine.
Don't call me out for having a mini. Somebody
asked me one time and they were like, say, what do you do?
Whatever we're talking about? I was like, yeah, I'm gone. I don't know.
Like the time is like back before COVID. So we were gone
like 160 days a year or something like that.
And they're like, how do you?
do it. Like, how do you guys stay together and not see each other? I'm like, how the
fuck do you do it when you see each other every day? I'll bet. I'll bet check and I'll bet you can do this
as I suppose. Decline, custom message, real busy, call you back. Call you back. No, it's, no,
he at least has it down. He texts me one time a day that says, hope you're having a great day,
love you. And then my response is, what do you want for dinner? Can you schedule? Can you schedule
text? It's usually around 1130.30. Like, we can mark it. He'll send it to me when he's at lunch with
his friends and then they're not as friends
there's employees
I've seen him at lunch it's a working lunch
burrito loco big owls multiple times I've seen
Is Billy there?
Billy's there some yeah
Billy's the best but Casey says you just off with his
friends while she's all with her nanny
I hate you
and I'm over there what do you want for dinner so I can cook it
so you do cook dinner
you don't have a chef
okay we're going to move on from what an idiot
because I feel like it's a fair question
all three of them are
You have a nanny?
Do you have a nanny?
Does the nanny cook?
Maybe the nanny cooks.
I was the nanny.
T.J.
T.J.
Babies and some kids.
I was the nanny.
Yeah.
He travels on the weekend.
Chad works through the week and travels on the weekend.
I took care of him all week, too.
No nanny.
Wow.
I was the nanny.
I babysit.
Wait a parent.
I'm proud of you.
Listen, I'm telling you,
scariest day of my life's first day I was left from a home low and Matt.
I'm sitting there like, yeah, you're still scared about it.
What do you do now?
Exactly.
Exactly.
Anyway, so I probably, well, yeah, I've probably changed more diapers in Gacy.
You definitely change more than me.
You have more kids.
I guarantee you change more than Brett.
I don't do poop.
Hey, have you done?
Okay.
What was the last time you changed this diaper?
You call me out.
I don't do poop.
We're going to move on.
I'm not an idiot because this is not a.
I mean, at Bodey's what, 10.11 now.
Like, hey, first of all, we missed this.
We didn't go into, we don't need to go in a lot of detail about last week.
But these two, they had a problem.
Listen, we can tell that story on here.
So we're in the shout out to Julie for getting us amazing tickets to the Cubs game.
So it came with access to the makers mark barrel room or whatever, which is a bar.
You can get all kind of great food.
Amazing experience.
Yes.
I ran into an issue where I had to use the bathroom.
No tissue.
Oh, yeah.
Forgot about this.
So we're going and Brett is a little squeam.
Brett has to go to the bathroom five times a day.
I have irritable bowel central.
So we're doing it.
a video and if you ever watch a Cubs game, they do that go Cubs go song thing. So
Herm is videoing as they run through this room with flags. And as we're watching, there's a guy
throwing up. Like he's running through the room throwing up. And he dips into the bathroom.
So I'm like, I got to go to the bathroom. And Brett's like, I wouldn't go in there if I was
that guy probably peaked all over everything. And I was like, well, I don't really have a choice.
So I went in there. So in my haste, I sit down and there's no toilet paper. So I text Brett.
go, good news is the bathrooms are still clean.
The guy didn't puke on everything.
Bad news is you're going to have to, when you get in here,
you're going to have to throw me the toilet paper from the other stall.
Two minutes later, I hear shuffling.
Brett comes running in, sits down next to me,
reads my text as he's sitting down and goes,
there's no toilet paper in here either.
So now we're in the only two stalls.
Nobody's got toilet paper.
We're yelling to baseball fans outside.
I'm like, could somebody please throw us a paper towel?
or something.
I don't know what was going on out
out there.
You were out there.
Somebody come out.
I said,
Brett and Freddie are
and stuck in the back in
they don't have any toilet paper.
And this guy comes out
and gets like these hand,
these hand towels
and goes back in there.
I'm going to pass out.
Someone was going to,
they almost grabbed a handful
of the Clorox wipes and said him in their thing.
Oh,
that would have been,
that would have not been ideal.
That would have been a bad deal.
Oh my gosh.
Just the moment of bread sitting down going,
I don't get to.
I was not here in here either.
I was like, oh, we're in trouble.
And then the guy come walking out.
And everyone's like, not all heroes.
We're capes.
Yeah.
That guy was,
that guy is my would of genius forever.
Oh, my gosh.
He's lifesavers.
That's what I,
last week when I said we go to the bathroom together,
that's what I was referring.
Oh, man.
Yeah.
Let them in there.
It was fun.
Okay.
DBC picks.
Oh.
Thank you, Denny.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
It was close there at the end.
It was close.
You, Denny.
There will be nobody more
prepared than Denny Hamlin this weekend. This is on his bucket list as a must
win back at the Oval. He's got what two, three shots most left. He's going to be on his
game this weekend for all your fantasy players. Then he screwed me by passing Alex there at
the end. Did you have Bowman? Oh, I know that was my issue. Too close. But we are
taking picks for the Oval. We are pretty much all out of drivers. Right. You go first.
Chase Elliott.
And you still got Chase Elliot?
You sure?
I don't know who the hell I want to pick this week.
I'll take Eric Jones.
I tried live lied.
I'm taking Josh Perry.
Oh, switching it up.
Oh, boy.
I am going to take
Casey's got a
shit and grin on right now
Like it doesn't matter how we take
She's probably got somebody
She's probably got somebody
I actually don't
She's still texting mapes right now
Trying to figure out
We don't have
Oh we established that yesterday
I'm gonna take Legano
Okay
Because if he wins I win
And if I jinx him
Don't care
It's fine
I'm saying
I'm still bitter
Huh
I'm just saying like
I don't mean it like that
I'm just saying you lie in motherfuck
I feel like it's a good call because they've been like piecing together solid finish.
Yeah.
Oh, man.
Casey, who you got?
I will take Chase Briscoe at his home track.
Man, I feel pretty good about my chances this week after hearing y'all's pitch.
Who'd you?
Who'd you bet?
Yeah, I think you'd probably.
We'll see.
We'll see.
We'll see.
Well, we talked a little bit about the oval breakyard.
What can you expect on track?
impossible to pass.
Yes, I think you're going to have to temper your expectations.
I don't think this is going to be the best race of the year,
but you have to trade that off for the fact that we're at the Indianapolis Motor Speedway.
Like the road course race wasn't much better.
It might be.
I mean, with our,
with these long straightaways, man,
I mean,
and you get two cars together.
It could be like a Pocono front stretch where you can get a big run on somebody.
And resarts are going to be,
resarts are going to be insane.
And way,
more narrow.
Yeah, this is a narrow racetrack for crazy racters.
Yeah, I mean, if somebody dives three wide to the bottom, it's going to, it's going to,
they're going to run out of room because the entry to ones really similar to like a,
a Martinsville where the wall is a little lower than where the corner entry probably is.
And I feel like if you get down there, it's going to be, I don't know, it's going to be really
hard to make the climb.
We went, I took a pace car ride around there, I don't know, a few years ago.
Yeah.
And you're going down that long as front.
And I try to relate it to like indie car, the Indy 500.
Like you're going down this front straightaway.
And it's, it looks like you're just making a 90 degree turn when you get to the end.
Did we do that same time?
I don't know.
Like, you were there.
Me and you and Earl did it.
Yeah.
You're just driving down the front straightway and you're looking at a wall.
Like, and these guys are doing it at whatever, like 230 something miles an hour, you know.
And you're like, what kind of courage does that take to just, all right, I got to go down here and hang a left at some point.
Yeah.
And they're not out of the throttle.
they're doing the option tire of Richmond
I wish they were doing it here
I think it'd be cool to have it here
yeah
listen one thing to watch out for
this pit road is always treacherous
like there's usually some kind of a stack up
some kind of a wreck
it's narrow it's narrow
it's small boxes
it's too wide and if you're on the inside lane
and a guy is pulling out
you almost have no choice but to lift
like you don't have any choice
you're going to hit this is where we were
when there was an incident in the very first pit
saw where a driver got in too hot and slid through his box and ran over his jackman.
And they then backed up where pit road speed started to eliminate that from happening because
there's not room for air on his pit road.
Yeah.
Big boxes, but narrow.
Where will you guys be spotting from?
I am assuming turn one and turn three, right?
That's what I've heard.
Yeah.
I think majority of us, I think three of us will probably be turn one, I would guess.
Yeah.
I've got Reed Sorensen helping me this weekend.
former Xfinity standout Cup Series driver.
You're going to be in three?
I'm being one, I guess.
Where are you going to be?
Oh, no, you'll be.
He's a primary guy.
He's not as good spotters I am.
Come on, man.
Yeah.
Fire Jesse.
That's why you would say it's hilarious.
So I wanted Jesse to do it, but he said he would need to train for it.
He's not ready to do an oval like that.
Because of his voice.
Here's the problem with us at Indy is they're coming at us the whole freaking straightaway.
And it's hard to see the angles.
when we were on the pagoda, our struggle as a spotter was the trees in the way.
Honestly, you could see, depending on where you stood, I could see about 75% of the racetrack.
And now where you're at, which is where the IndyCar guys stand, it is hard to manage those runs.
When they pull out, it's tough to know if they're there.
Yeah.
Where do we park?
I was going to ask you, where do we park?
Usually it's at infield by the...
No, I'm not part of it.
If we're in one and three, I'm definitely not.
If you think Freddie drove bad,
trying to get in a Pocono,
you just parked on the infield,
trying to get out.
Yeah, I don't think that's going to be a...
No, that ain't where I'm going.
Heck no.
I'll pay 50 bucks parking somebody's yard before I do that.
Well, there'll be plenty of options.
We've used to do that all the time.
I did that the last couple years of road courses.
It's common, yeah.
We used to do that.
Bristol, you sometimes you could park across the street.
Great place, great town.
Like, go downtown.
I'll tell you what's really cool is,
around the racetrack
near the IndyCar shops.
That's awesome area now.
Yeah.
And I think it's worth mentioning
that facility
how nice and clean it is
since Roger bought it.
You don't work for him anymore.
You don't got to kiss.
That place.
I'm telling you,
when they redid it,
we went to them bathrooms
on the outside.
It was.
And he was like there.
I remember the first year we went,
when did he buy it during COVID?
Was it right?
Yes.
And he was walking
the grounds.
checking it out.
Looking like,
is everything good?
Like,
there's so many times
we show up and I literally say to myself,
y'all could have at least pressure washed the seats where fans are going to sit.
At indie,
you don't have to worry about anything not being pristine.
Yeah.
It is the most pristine racetrack you'll ever go to.
100%.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Really.
Yeah,
you won't find a nice one.
No.
But it'll be cool.
Big race.
We'll have plenty to talk about next week.
Yep.
And then that's it.
Two weeks off after that.
Yeah,
we'll have some shows dropping.
during his off weeks.
But yeah,
I'm looking forward
to a break.
I might make my
racing return
in a couple of weeks.
They're having a memorial race
for my dad at Riverhead
and I dragged one of his old cars
out of the woods
and I might,
I might race.
Have you been working out
to get ready for that?
But it's only nine laps.
I think I could do it.
It's twin nine lap features.
Okay.
I can get through the first one,
I think.
You want to borrow my,
my cool shirt?
You can probably put on your arm.
Yeah, I probably need something
put on your arm.
Half my body
is cool.
But no, it'll be, it'll be fun.
But yeah, I guess we'll see everybody in India again.
Another great week for DBC fans.
I saw a bunch of them throughout the garage and everything.
Every time I walk through the tunnel.
Yeah.
I ran into fans.
They say TJ suck.
Most of them is Freddie and Brett.
That's a lot.
That's what I get to.
No, I'm.
They usually say you don't suck.
And then normally, actually it's more Brett.
I get a lot of Brett sucks.
Oh, yeah.
That's, that's, well.
That's accurate.
So, yeah.
Fair.
Well, thank you all so much for listening and have a good week.
We out.
Word.
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