Door Bumper Clear - 349 | Kansas: Rodney’s DVP Rage, Kyle Busch’s Calamity and Playoff Spoilers

Episode Date: September 30, 2024

We welcome Casey Boat back in studio with Brett Griffin, TJ Majors, and Freddie Kraft to recap the weekend action from Kansas. Ross Chastain managed to serve as ‘playoff spoiler’ for the 2nd straight season, how disruptive is that for the overall Playoff picture? Was Chase Briscoe fair or foul for squeezing Kyle Busch into the wall while trying to stay on the lead lap? With Josh Berry being parked by NASCAR after involvement in a Lap 1 crash, the guys discuss who makes that decision and the swift reaction to it. Plus, we’re live again on YouTube for another edition of #AskDBC to answer all your post-Kansas questions.  21+ and present in North Carolina. First online real money wager only. $5 first deposit required. Bonus issued as nonwithdrawable bonus bets which expire 7 days after receipt. Restrictions apply. See terms at sportsbook.fanduel.com. Gambling problem? Call 877-718-5543 or visit morethanagame.nc.gov. Want more DBC? Check out and subscribe to the new DBC YouTube channel! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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Because that doesn't sound good Because these little black bugs They were terrible this weekend And I want to burn my legs off right now And I don't want to wear shorts Evergant at the racetrack Brett Griffin, I've got AJ Almondager this weekend at Talladega. Looking forward to getting back in the saddle.

And then, Freddie, I'll pitch it to you so you can stop itching to. It's like they got fleas. I felt like that's what it feels like. I don't know what fleas is like, but if it's worse than this, I'd just kill myself. Tweet a picture of y'all's bites so people can tell you what it is. I don't know what the hell that little. What's up, Freddie Cratz Potter for Bubba Wallace? Kyle Sieg,

Dawson Sutton this week. Top 5 with Dawson. Dawson had a really good run, especially first time mile and a half. And then Isabella robust toe in the archer race, that did not go so well. Welcome back. Her debut.

That was her mile and a half debut. She ran Phoenix, I think earlier in the year. We'll get to that, I'm sure. Clear. Welcome back to our hostess with the mostest. Who?

Who are you? The lovely Casey boat. How are you, I honestly, I will admit I miss you guys. This is a little weird. They never thought I'd say that. Give us about 10 minutes. Hey, Brett, did you miss Casey?

Yeah, I texted her last night, told her how much I missed her. In fact, he said it multiple times. I'm how glad I am. She's back. Oh, so you were drunk yesterday. Hey, he said it in the morning. Sometimes he would text me and be like, just checking in.

That doesn't make a difference. Anyways. Thank you guys. For all the well wishes, it was a long few weeks, amazing few weeks, but I'm glad to be back. How is Ms. Carter doing? Oh, she's great. Yes. She's great.

I do want to note that I thank you to appreciate this. The time that I went into labor that my water broke, Chad was at Millbridge. So I figured I'd kick off the show with that part and let you make fun of me for it. It just pisses me off. You're already back skinny. Like, that's what pisses me off. Everything else I'm happy for it. Well, it's not like I'm on vacation.

Let me ask. So, Chad, the bigger question is, did he leave Milbridge when this happened? He did. He did. He also chose not to bring his car, which, I mean, I don't really know what I was 39 weeks pregnant. You'd think he'd make some decisions there. But he chose to have like 13 cars at Milbridge that night.

And I, we talked to this earlier. I said it was a trap. But I said, go ahead and race. It's fine. And then my wabby broke. So, yes. He was here. He made it in time.

Yeah. And then he probably wished he stayed there after because my epidural did it work. So are you getting any sleep? Not, not really, especially when when he decides to leave everywhere. How mean? But, hey, it's fine. What? How mean were you like when you said your epidural didn't work?

If anybody who works at the hospital was listening, I'm really sorry for all the comments in me. What kind of comments were you, Megan? I hated life. probably very angry. Especially when there was an emergency and the anesthesiologist had to leave. So you had a baby without an epidural? At nine centimeters, it finally kicked in. It didn't work, apparently.

I think she did it wrong, but whatever. It's fine. How hard it can be? So was it bad? Not the pushing part. I was so proud of myself. It was like so quick that part. then, but everything else was really sucked.

Not recommended. This week. Can you drink while I could have a baby? Right after you go. Right. I said you'd say you probably pounded once it's out. Once they cut the cord and ain't connected it anymore. Anyways, I forgot how hot it was in this room.

Yeah. That hasn't changed. Well, thank you, Carson, for filling in for me. You're probably going through the change at this point. I am. I am. Thank you. Thank you for calling that out.

Hot flashes. Anything else. Thank you, Carson. You were amazing and had so much fun with you at the wedding a few weeks ago. Anyways, before we head into our lovely BS section, I want to send our thoughts and prayers for those impacted by Hurricane Helene. And also share how y'all can help those who really need it right now. I mean, just, I know Brett's tweeted about your bunch of about it this weekend. just seeing the destruction up there.

I mean, the flooding and everything else is so bad. It's good to see guys, seen some guys biffles up there. I know helping out. I think they said a Gibbs helicopter. It's a Hendrik helicopters are going up there. So it's awesome to see everybody pitching in.

The American Red Cross has launched a massive relief response to get help where it's needed across a vast area covering hundreds of miles from Florida to Tennessee, Brett. Yeah, you know, I started following this thing last Tuesday, like closely. And when I saw 18 inches plus a. rain was coming. I was literally panicked for that area because, I mean, everything up there is not made to drain like that. You know what I mean? So shout out, like you said, all the guys are helping. And I hope now the race teams are home that they can load up some flatbed trailers with bottles of water, generators, gas, like anything you can. Our buddy, Steve Barkdale, his family is having to basically walk a mile and a half to get into a truck, which they're leaving beside the road, drive it 30 minutes to a gas station. And the wait to get gas was two hours. to get, you know, enough gas to be able to go back and put in their generator.

So, man, just tough, tough times for all these people. And it's getting some attention online, you know, but not necessarily in the news. So if you're, if you're able to help donate, man, definitely do that. The Red Cross is 1-800 Red Cross. That's 1-800-733-27-7. And definitely help us spread the word to help these people out, T.J. Yeah. And if you, you know, you need help locating some loved ones because of the hurricane, Helene,

the Red Cross may also be able to help you there. Again, you can call 1-800 Red Cross. That's 1-800-733-2767, and select disaster and provide as much detail as you can for them to assist you. And there's lots of other folks that are helping out too. So just keep your eyes and ears open. And Chris Knight and I were texting yesterday too, man, because every little bit helps. You know, I mean, these people have lost everything. I don't like Coleman Presley lives up there.

And I think he's just north of where a lot of the damage was. but what happened was he thought he couldn't reach his family basically for two days because the cell towers got wiped out. Right, right. You know, that's, I mean, that's just a helpless feeling when we're in Kansas and you can't get a hold of your wife. He's got three little girls. You know, I mean, he was talking about his dad was out there.

Robert, if you know, Robert Presley, NASCAR legend, he was out there, chainsaws trying to clear roads to get people in and out. But it's just, you know, it's just a helpless feeling. I know you can also go to the Red Cross.org is also another place where you can reach them. So, yeah, just help out any way you can. All right. Well, welcome back from Kansas. How was it?

Apparently buggy. Besides the mugs. I'm surprised. You didn't say it wasn't windy because, I mean, that would have helped you this time. I wish it was windy. It was still breezy, but not where the way it was going was not hitting the roof. No. It was, you know, Friday night, I think it was the somebody, Tony Raines walked by with a,

looked like a old bandito. You know, he had like a bandana tied around his face. and I was like, the hell are you doing? But he was down at the other end of the spotter stand. He's like, these bugs are killing me. And I'm like, I don't even know what you're talking about. Like, there's no bugs. Yeah.

And then the next day, they must have moved on down because I got a mind. You didn't get bit Friday? I don't think so. I don't know what Friday. I did. I thought they'd be gone during the day. I thought they were like a nighttime thing. No, they weren't.

They were not. No. Kansas was fun. I mean, it's all right. As a fan watching it honestly is like the old Atlanta used to be. Like it's probably. the best mile and a half track. I know we hadn't gone to homestead yet this year,

but it's the best mile and a half track that we've got right now. And this car has some struggles on some tracks, obviously coming out of Bristol last week, we know it wasn't a great race. This was a great race. This had everything you could possibly want. The Cup Series, Xfinity Series,

I mean, they both put on great shows. And Kansas City's a fun town. Like, this needs to become a bucket list race for all NASCAR fans that are out there because it's fun and the race. since awesome. Yeah. I mean,

that area alone right there is really good around a racetrack. There's a lot of stuff to do right there. Then you can go to, you know, Kansas City, downtown Kansas City, which is probably, what, 25 minutes away where there's a lot of power

and light district, a lot of cool stuff down there to do. So, yeah, it's definitely, and the racing, like you said, is phenomenal. Do the restarts.

Five wide, going into one, coming out of two. I said multiple times yesterday, I said four wide, you know, bottom of four, middle of four or whatever.

Oh, there's a couple of people that I don't think hurt, heard that. Listen, we talk about it a lot on here. You know, you're talking about Justin Haley. And that's a

last week they made a driver swap on the 51, but the team stayed in place. So the spotter of the seven stayed the spotter to the seven and the 51 spotter stayed the spotter there. And now you're having to learn a new lingo and that's what essentially happened there. The way... Do I need to come help Justin the last five six races? I don't think he needs to you. I don't know if that was...

Justin loves me. He, you know, it's just admit the way the guy, the way Justin's new spotter called the three wide is not what he's ever heard before. And he didn't, I don't think he realized he was three wide and hooked the left. And I didn't know what the hell he was doing because. Yeah. Bub was like,

what the hell was that? Like, it was just like we're all driving out of backstretched and one guy just hung the left. See, TV was weird. It almost looked like Larson maybe hit him or something or something broke. Like it was really hard to figure out. On the broadcast,

they were questioning if something broke. Yeah. I didn't know that he didn't know. Yeah. I mean, the way, so I don't know how T.J. calls it.

I don't know how you call it, but I'm usually middle of three or mid three, mid three, you know, that's usually just way I call it. And the spotter said one in and out. You're not supposed to laugh. I almost spit my water out. What the fuck does one in and out mean? One in and out means there's one inside, one outside. One in and one out.

I've never heard of that way. But I've never heard it that way either. But, you know, if Corey was used to that and now Justin's not, you know, it's just a lingo thing. And that's why that's why you hear guys going back and listening to other spotters when they're looking for a spotter is because they want to make sure. You can't unless you're, when you go back and listen to audio, I tell you it, it's useless for a lot of things because you're also, unless you're watching what the guy's seeing, the audio, I mean, you guy can sound like a great spotter, but if we had a guy one

time helped me and Brett and Brett said, could you see what he could see? And I said, no, I couldn't. And he said, how do you think he did? And I said, they thought they're pretty good. And he said, yeah, I did too. But I can see what he could see. And he did not do very good. He said he sounded really good.

But he was done. So I was like, oh, all right. well, that's what happens if you listen to audio, but a lot of times you're listening for lingo. And, you know, if you use stuff people never heard before, then that guy's probably not going to use you. And this was just a case of that. It sounded like to me. And he was running good. Like, Justin was having a pretty decent day, top 15 day.

All the spire cars, honestly, were surprisingly fast. How about that note, Trace in us last night? Did you see that? Uh-uh. The Spire cars? Uh-uh. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I did see that.

I thought you said, Trace. I might use trace. No, Trey Ryan's in as a stat last night that the spire car. for the first 15 races versus the second last 15 races they have proved improved their average running position by like five spots and they're their first like it's i think it's zane and and hosovar first and second Corey was like fifth which obviously he was a spire car until a couple weeks ago or last week um so i mean they're they're showing speed around the same time that the HMS cars are really shout out of Corey had a solid finish top 15 he did he did a really good yesterday as well. I thought they both did good. Yeah. Corey had a solid day and

I thought Justin was doing you know as good too. I thought Justin as good as the 77 and 71 where I thought the seven might just be a little bit, you know, quicker but you know, I was there's a you know, an adjustment time getting used things

and you know, probably didn't really want to go out there and have an accident on his first race but I thought they both did a good job. And Justin is and I've spotted for a lot guys as have you all he is a very aware race car driver like if something caught him off guard i'm literally even surprised because going back to when i did spot for him that full-time season he had like man one of the easiest guys to spot for super aware inside a race car which helps yeah oh for sure i've spotted for some that weren't for sure and i didn't spot for them long i mean i'd imagine to

I imagine to the transition even now, like obviously their lingo's different. What do you think they're working on? How do you think they're working on? You know, Justin, I think said that asked him to just call middle of three or whatever it was the next time. And you talk about it. This is essentially, when I spotted that Archer race on Friday, you have to change the way you spot.

And that's what I put the blame on myself for that wreck. not that I cleared her when she wasn't clear but you know you got to especially mile and a half happens fast you've never been on a mile and a half before she's fast she's sat on the pole so I mean she's very talented race car driver this is no by no means am I discrediting

anything she does but I had to I should have remembered that I was spotting for her and not spotting for blah blah you know there's we come off she gets loose of a four and there's a hole to get up and I call her I get up here you clear

for one behind this one. And the second I see she doesn't immediately start to move up. I'm like, okay, hold you line, hold you line outside. That's when we wreck. You know, so I should have just never even tried to get her in that hole because she probably was too aggressive on my part. So she probably heard clear. It's like it's, I don't want this.

I don't want this to sound derogatory. But when you spot for lower series like that, sometimes you got a spot like you have a two or three second delay. You know, you can't like when I tell Bubba clear, he's in the whole. before I'm done with the word. You know, other people, and I'm not saying she didn't trust me or what, but, you know, they don't, they don't move as fast. And if they don't move as fast, that's when the, change is quickly.

So it is my, I think I should have just told her to stay in the middle, hold your middle and let them keep going by until we found a safer spot to get in. But, you know, it is what it is. And it's unfortunate that it ruined her day. I had a similar, I should take a similar strategy in the arc of races, knowing that, you know, I should just told Andy, look, Corey, days inside. He needs all six lanes. make sure you give them to them.

Corey, Corey's very fast. He's got to learn the arrow balance a little bit, it seems like is, I mean, and then like people are holding them tight, but he just, when you know,

when they're holding you tight, the one time he didn't even make it to the corner. He was wrecked. And I think that was with the gray kid. But yeah, at least you got him back on Saturday night. Yeah, I guess.

Kind of. Not of our own doing, though. Yeah, that was, you know, it's weird, you know,

When you're with Isabella there, she, the not very often, you know at Kansas when you run the front stretch there, the race, every time every lap you're running practice and qualifying, you go to the bottom. That's our finish time. But in the race, you basically go to the wall and start, finish line. And it's completely opposite of like what they're used to doing. So when you're like, you know, you need to run up here. And then they leave like a lane and a half and you're like, nope, higher. Get up there. Like, because you're trying to pick the right side. Like, so I mean, I get it. You know, why it's a, like you said, it. They just got to learn. It's these last. Yeah. Well, looking at the playoff bubble at the moment, it seems like some of our drivers had some trouble, such as Christopher Bell, although he managed to still get a strong day. Kyle Larson. Did you cry? What? Did you cry with Christopher Bell, right? Of course, he did. Did he wreck? Oh, yeah. He just hit the wall twice. You get upset. Why do you hit the wall twice? I mean. He was fat. He ran out of talent. I mean, I didn't see him hit him. He just got loose. He was leading, right? I'll think. Yeah, he was. All things into the ring. I think most of them still salvaged strong gays, Chase Elliott. I mean, Chase Elliott. The guy you jinxed one of them. Okay. I said, I told Jay tell him I'm so sorry.

Like he's now four below the cut offline and he's right. You know who really, you know who really screwed Tyler? Champion. You know, TJ. Why? Because he got stuck behind you when you about killed yourself into one there on that restart. Oh, God. Yeah, that was.

He got, he shot the middle. And, uh, Brad was on old. which I mean, I didn't think that was going to happen. You know what I mean? Like, I know that he was going to be a disadvantage, but somebody worked us up off the bottom. Yeah. And he got in the middle and was going backwards. And poor Tyler picked the middle at the wrong time and lost.

I think he went from like six to somewhere in the 20s. I will say, though, that he was uncharacteristic. Uncharacteristically. Yeah. Slow. Yes. For being Kansas and his like that should have been. I thought that about 2311 as a whole.

Like I was really waiting on Bubba and Reddick's name to just be in the top seven. I mean, you guys won there, right? A couple years ago. We've won the, 45 car won the last three races there. Wow. The last three fall races, that's true. Yeah, I don't. That was weird.

They, we were. Missed it. We were loose. Loose. Yeah. Interesting. They were really loose, too. I mean, how does a regular season champion be already for a bowl of the cutoff line?

How is that? Bad races. No stage points. No. You know, and he only had, I think, what do he have 15? So he was probably 25 points, maybe, a couple of stage wins, maybe 30 points. when he starts. So you don't get stage points and then you,

you know, you finish 25th. That's, you're giving up a lot. Do you think it's fair to that really one race impacts so much? Yeah. I mean, it's,

it's, you got to run good. They're all important. They're all important. And I was talking about there was a Brett, you know, Tyler's not one of them, but we,

we talked about the wild card races at the first round. And now you have a straight mile and a half, just best race, one of the best, we just talked about the best racetrack we go to. You need to be fast. You need to have longevity in your car. And the guys at the bottom of the list are the ones we probably expect to be there.

The Cindrix, the 14, the 99. Those guys just haven't had raw speed this year, but they got through the first rounds because they had a great race at Atlanta. Good races at the road course. You know, so survived Bristol. And then, you know, now. Here come two more wild cards. Yeah, that's, you go. You got five of the first six races essentially are wild card races.

I mean, I think William Byron's good. But everybody else, if you get in the rec lap 5 or to end stage 1, I think the guy you got to worry about this week is Larson. I mean, he cannot find a finish at a drafting track. You know, and it's not, I don't think it's anything he's doing wrong. It's just, you know, it's, yeah, a lot of times it's just luck at these places. And now he's only, I think he's at 17, 18 to the good, that gets erased quickly if you get caught up in something. You know, so he needed to have a much better Kansas to give himself a little buff.

Here's where the fans win is all those guys have to chase stage points. They can't go out there stage one and decide I'm not racing. Like, I mean, if you pull a Denny Hamlin what he did at Atlanta, and then you don't get stage points there, you don't get stage points, stage two, and then you wreck stage three, you're eating. Yeah. And listen, it's the way the qualifying has gone at these plate races,

or whatever you want to call them, drafting tracks, whatever, it's going to be hard to beat the Fords for stage points, especially in the first stage, because they are super fast. They qualify the top, the whole top 10, except for like one guy. It was a Ford, I think, at the last one. And then they can lock out the whole front. And you can't get up there. And maybe it may be more racy now. We saw a little more racing at Daytona with that fin on there.

And if there's, they may be, they may be doubling down on that fin from what I saw. But, you know, maybe it makes it more racy. but we have to, you know, we being the Toyota group have to figure out a way to get up there and break down. Don't save fuel. Well, okay, then you put the fuel in

and they cycle to the back. Well, you had them on fuel last time there. Yeah. Was it there? Oh, was that where we all wrecked? Yeah. We were hauling ass. That was going to work right up until we realized.

Let's go back to that Finn. So there's been a few comments around NASCAR potentially making a larger change for the car to help keep the cars on the ground or help from a safety perspective. I know teams are a little iffy on it. What are you all hearing? As a spotter, you never want to hear that they're adding an element to the vehicle to the race car that affects the driver's vision. And it puts you even more important than you already are. And at that place, you're already the second most important guy there, right?

So, but listen, people, we can't have these cars taken off like airplanes. Because if they, if any part of the car ends up in the stands, people are, their lives are in jeopardy. And we can't go to a racetrack and do that. Like, and when we know the number, when we get the closer, we get to 200 miles an hour, the more likely they are to flip and the more likely they are to go upside down. We've got to figure out a way to keep these things on the ground. I think there's a lot of things that probably aren't being looked at that maybe should. Martin said last week, do away with his underbody on these cars. I mean, I don't think that's a positive for keeping them on the ground.

But you got to keep them on the ground. Yeah. And what Brett's referring to is the rumor is they've kind of made the shark fin the length of the greenhouse, which is the front windshield and the roof, the front rear wheelchills and the roof. And the fin would run across the windshield, straight up the windshield, over the roof, and then down the rear glass, it looked like in some of the pictures I saw. And some of the drivers were voicing concerns about,

you know, their visibility, which I would assume you'd make it clear, but it's still something attached to your roof. I mean, your hood, wouldn't you know, but I don't know.

I agree with Brett that you got to, you got to keep these things on the ground, but what, how do they know? You don't know. You're just, you know, you're not going to go and try to flip a car over at Taladega with this thing on there.

So they did it at wherever that was. was it Atlanta? We put the fin on and we still flipped a couple of them over. So, you know, I don't know. But I agree. The drivers tell you that they'd rather flip over than smash a wall. But for the fan safety, you can't have these things flying. The angles that are possible once you start flipping are probably not the safest that, you know.

Yeah. They get off the ground. There's a lot of things that can happen at that point. But I don't, I don't think anybody wants to be Ryan Newman. No. No. I don't think anybody wants to get in there. Ryan Preece either.

I mean, you don't want to be upside down and have a car driving to your driver door. Yeah. But like, you know, what about like when we go Talladega and Daytona and even Atlanta, well, you know there's risk, right? You know, and, you know, sometimes guys don't make moves, especially, you know, you don't make certain moves because, you know, there's a lot of risk involved with it. But everyone so, say, everyone's so comfortable with these cars now that, like, they've done the safety of this car is unreal. like the all the measures that that have been taken to keep these drivers safe from the car to safer barriers to like everything man it's it's like off the charts good with everything they've done but that the you know sometimes do you make you know do they they I don't think the drivers worry about it I don't do you do you think they think about making that like look at Dow's block you think Meda was worried about safety I mean man I hear you. but he covered 10 lanes in like two seconds you're absolutely right but i i do think about safety i mean i mean i do too and i like i mean when austin dillon won that fence and that july fourth race i was like he's

dead i didn't know he's walking away from this and he did like so to your point and i mean and me and phitoa tim feetil will have talked about this you know you get immune to nobody's got killed in yeah two thousand one and but man people broke their backs people have career-ending concussions. So, yeah, safety still, man. I think we worry about it more than they do. I absolutely think that's an accurate statement because it probably looks worse where we're at than it does where they're at. I just seeing the moves they make like in, you know, all of them.

I mean, they're all the race car driver. They're going to make this move to try to win the race. They want to win so bad. Dale Jr. juked Elliott going down the back and to Kurt Busch. And Elliot moved and he wasn't clear. and when he started flipping, I was like, oh my gosh. Yeah. It's not a good feeling.

Well, and I mean, listen, Elliot flipped at Michigan. It was practice and he ran over a piece of tailpipe on the front stretch and the car with his right rear. The car spun around backwards and took off like an airplane. Yeah. And at one point, he was told he was higher than the catch fence. I was spotting from the top of the truck. We didn't have to be on the roof back then.

But man, when you're watching these guys flip, I mean, even Larson's wreck at Daytona, next finity race. I remember his engine ended up in the fence. And a tire, I think, went up in the stands. Yeah. You know, I think the fence stops the first car most of the time. But what happens if there's another car behind it? Yeah.

Yeah. That would be, that's my main concern is more so for the fans. Absolutely. You know, not the drivers, like I said, a lot of them, you ask them, they obviously the freak accidents were like Newman's, but they'd rather flip over and slide forever than, you know, pound a fence anywhere. But what I've heard drivers say, though, some of them say they'd rather hit a wall because you hit a wall once hard. Boom. And then it's over. And then then it's over. When you start flipping, you don't, it gets really quiet. And then you start flipping. Then you hit and you start flipping again. You get flipping faster. Like I think it depends on who's flipped and who hadn't. Yeah. Fair. I ask Ryan Priest's he want to flip by that again. I mean, his eyeballs about come out of his head. He's hits a wall pretty hard too a couple times. He might be good on ads. He probably, who is it? Was he the one that he Got hit or he hit Larson when they teaboned him there.

And one and two. He's one that hit Larson, yeah. That probably heard. Well, I know NASCAR will be making a decision. Man, you watch these wrecks though, Casey, and it's like they're in a box of match and they just got hit by Mike Tyson right in the mouth. Gosh. I mean, but to say that people, that drivers would rather flip than hit a wall, that says something to. And think about it this too, with whatever happens, whether they change something or not.

Like the crew chiefs, the engineers, they'll be. in full-blown panic mode because it's not been tested. It's not been run. We don't know what it's going to do. And guess what else we're not doing when we get there? We're not practicing. So how does that work from a driver and a team standpoint making adjustments if they were to make that decision to put it on the car?

Well, from the team standpoint, I would assume the cars are done or damn near done. I think I'm serious. They really said he'd need to know by Monday, which is today. Yeah. They'd have to leave, you know, be loading up probably. Wednesday, I would assume, and get down there. They've been known to have to unload cars, though, and add parts to them. Yeah, I think that's what happened with the shark fin in Daytona or Atlanta, wherever I was.

You know, it was late. But, yeah, I mean, for, for, and for us, like, we don't know. Now we can go back and watch Last Talladega race, but there's now a new variable. Like we at Daytona with that, what the fin was on at Daytona, right? Or no? It had to be because it changed the top. You know, remember the top came. in better and that we think the only reason it was because there was a fin on there so it made it was on

there it made yeah for sure um it was you know we didn't as the variable going in we don't know like the first two races there there was no second lane you couldn't you couldn't go or third lane you couldn't make it go without people saving fuel it seemed like that you know it worked better with the fin so now maybe does it work even more like can you be even more racy hopefully that is the case um but you know so we don't know you know we can watch the last tall allegor race but now it's not going to race the same because you have other variables on the car. With obviously visibility being a potential issue. And as a spotter, how do you guys adjust knowing that they might not be able to see a certain portion?

You just have to know, like we'll talk about it. And you know, Bub will go out there and run a qualifying lap at least. So he'll be in the car with it on there and know what he can see and what he can see while you can. If he'll just help relay to me, you know, I can see fine. I can see, you know, I can't see out the right side of the windshield, whatever it is. and then we just have to adjust accordingly. I don't think we're going to change anything the way we spot. You're still going to give as much info as you can.

And it's just it might change his reaction time to certain things. Yeah. I don't know if it's going to change. We're still going to give the info when a guy's there when he's almost there. If they're pushing in front, we're still going to give the same info. All right. Well, real quick, silly season news. I know Ty Dillon has been announced to drive the 10 car for collag racing next year.

what do you all think of that? Any other rumors you're hearing? I was surprised at the number change there. But then I got to thinking, I'm like, man, I guess there's a couple numbers that are going to become available with Stewart Haas closing the door. So they've obviously got the number 10 in Xfinity series, so it makes sense.

But I thought it was cool they had a 31, you know? Yeah. I think this puts him right back in trucks, if what I'm hearing there is right. Yeah. Some stuff's going on with crew chiefs and engineers and all that, but that's normal for this time of year. I don't know about spotters.

Y'all got a bunch of changes coming. I think they're already done. Yeah, I think most of them are just changes. There's maybe some new guys coming in. Definitely going to be a handful of changes. I heard one wild rumor the other night that I don't know if it's true or not. But if that's true, then it is a, it'll be a big change. But yeah, there's definitely, I'd say, I mean, there's a fair amount.

Is that almost a phone we're going to quit driving and start spotting? Yeah, yeah. So that's the rumor. He's going to let Hamlin drive. and he's going to spot next year. Oh, that'll be awesome. I hear he owes you guys. How many these guy?

We said one thing about him on here and he can't finish out of top five. I'm proud of him. I mean, his fans should love us. They do. They call it all the time. Which, listen, like, if you're talking about teams hitting their stride at the right time, HMS is looking pretty strong.

You know, Larson goes out, dominates last week. Byron, I thought, was one of the best cars yesterday. You know, obviously Alex. up there gained a bunch of points. So, you know, the Larson, I'm sure it would have been there if he doesn't cut the tire. Chase, he wasn't, I mean, he was probably was top 10. He was in the box and he kind of got in that first

wreck and yeah, I mean, he was fast, but he wasn't crazy. Larsen had that tire go down. He was still top. I think he was still top seven or eight. I'll tell you, one of the most impressive things yesterday was Blaney. The recovery they made at the end where I guess he had a loose wheel that had to come back down on the green and they were a lap down with like 50 to go. Yeah.

I don't know where he finished using top five, I think, right? So, I mean, that was impressive. He's fast. Well, when we come back on the break, we will kick off spot on spot off. Hey, NFL fans, you can start the season with a big return on Fandul. America's number one sportsbook. So when you get a hunch in the middle of the game, you can check out the latest stats, view live play-by-play,

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Spot-all. It was super fun yesterday to ride around there. I am spot off. Damn. Where did he come from? First topic. Kyle Busch was squeezed into the wall by Chase Briscoe, who was fighting to stay on the lead lap. Afterwards, Bush said, I'm numb. And Briscoe said, I felt like I left him a car with and a couple of inches. And also said, I'm a Kyle Busch fan.

I want to see him win. Spot on, spot off Freddie. I think it's spot off to say you want to see him win. And it's a kind of a productive statement when you say, I left him a car within a couple inches, but I really want to see him win. I don't think Chase did anything wrong. Could he have been more accommodating?

Yes, obviously. But you're racing this down in the lead lab. The one thing I need Chase is to do. And I need this. I've talked about this across the board with every driver. Stop saying I hate it. You don't hate it. You got to caution you needed.

You stayed on the lead lap. You know, I think it was Austin Hill. Like, he ran high him up in the fence. I hate that happen. No, you don't. You won the race. Like, stop saying I hate it. You don't hate it.

What happened was what you wanted to happen. You know, Austin Dillon, I hate that I had to do that. No, you didn't. You did it. Like, stop saying I hate it. I did what I had to do. I asked the end of the story. But, yeah.

Listen, Chase did what he said. He did. He left him just enough room for a car to get outside. And we saw at Michigan. a couple guys spin out in the same arrow position where you get just offset to the right rear somebody a little bit and I think it just caught Kyle off guard

and he's probably he's probably pushing a little extra harder right there trying to get outside of chase on the exit to get that run down the backstretch because the one's still right there and it just steps out and when we've seen them before when these cars step out you can't bring them back sometimes.

Brett. I think this was a Kyle Bush grew up and I think he screwed up because he was trying too hard. And I feel like, you know, he went on a run this summer where he had top five, top six cars, and he consistently didn't finish there because he was trying too hard. And I think we all know how talented Cowbush is. I mean, he's one of the best ever holding steering wheel.

And it just shows you how hard these cars are to drive in certain scenarios. Weird thing is, like you didn't see anything like this of Bristol, you know what I mean? Like where you'd think you'd see guys running out of talent, cars getting loose, hitting the wall. and here it was all day long just just out of control. I mean, we remember Larson's wreck where he hit extremely hard in a very similar scenario like Freddie was saying earlier. But I just think Briscoe did not do anything wrong. I think Kyle just should have been a two more patient,

100% understand why he was trying to get there. But man, him and him and Ross had a battle. It was fun to watch. TJ. Yeah, I think Kyle wanted to get around, or he wanted to get around Chase as quick as he can because you get held up for two corners here, the other guy's there, and he's going to probably have a run, and it's going to be hard to stop him. So I can see the urgency for Kyle wanting to get around

him, but the high side of two is probably the most treacherous spot there. I would say when, especially when somebody, you're on the outside of somebody, it's a bad spot. Like you, and, you know, I talked to Brad about it before the race, even on the radio before the race. I'm like, look, when somebody pulls down in front of you, if you're running up, or you're below somebody you're not there they're going to come down in front of you and you're going to lose the nose right there so plan ahead for that stuff and you know Kyle's racing for a win and he feels like he needs to get around chase or uh yeah at that point in time which you probably did because if he doesn't complete that move right there and it has to lift and he doesn't hit the

long he keeps going i think the one car is there entering turn three yeah and making a move on him you know Chase, again, I don't think he did anything wrong. But, you know, he, for some reason yesterday, he seemed like he was pretty aggressive. He ran Bubba in the fence, like lap two. And then, you know, Bubba kind of chased him down the hill and, you know, cost him a couple of spots. But, you know, then I seen Josevar was complaining about him at some point. I don't know what they're running was if that had something to do with him. Carson around the back stretch.

Oh, yeah, for sure. He means he's aggressive. But now you're making, and then Kyle Bush now, I assume, is not going to. to cut you any breaks. You know, so, and you know, and does, it's hard because I'm sure Kyle, Kyle probably could have ran him a little bit differently at the end of that Darlington race that got Chase in the playoffs. And now here he is running him down to lap them.

And Chase doesn't cut him any kind of break whatsoever. So, you know, it's, it's still impressive that at 180 miles an hour, these guys can leave you literally exactly a car width. because it wasn't, it wasn't more than a car with. Like, I mean, he was going to have to cram it in there and you were going to have to hope for the best and the best didn't happen. But literally, Chase left him just enough room.

And Kyle was, he knew it. And he's like, I got to get this. And then he read. It's just you got to, if you're in Chase's position, especially now being out, which the next two races really don't really, but you can't, you don't want to make enemies at this point. And he made it. He made, he does hate it.

I'm sure. got Kyle helped him sleep at night tomorrow. Chase hates that that happened. But these guys, stop saying that. It's incredible that they can run four wide like they can run. And they do it like they do it every single lap. They can run four wide.

And we got five wide a couple times yesterday. And these drivers, they know if you say, well, most of them, if you know two outside, one inside, they know exactly how much room to leave.

And it hit tight and you're like, oh, gosh, but they do it. They know exactly how much room to leave for each one of them. spots and it's it's insane it like got like you have to appreciate the talent level these guys have when they're in them areas and this car because it's easier to drive i feel like with the old car you couldn't earn exfany car if you get four wide through the corner there you can't you can't

run yeah somebody's in trouble somebody's getting loose like but man these guys are so good at like the way they pass each other like the way denny and brag got to race in yesterday at one point for probably eight to ten somewhere in there and man denny wasn't given Brad an inch at their certain points. You know, on the exit of the corner. Yeah. Then he has Brad pinned against the wall. Well, you know, when he moves down, Brad's got handpin.

And it's the chest mess match that goes on between them guys and at that speed. And it's really, I mean, I can appreciate the driving talent of them guys when they do that stuff. Spot on, spot off. After being involved in a lap one crash, when Josh Barry's car was being towed back to the infield, Josh told his crew chief, Rodney, they're. NASCAR is making me get out of the car, Rodney. And Rodney replied, we're not getting out. We didn't come here to run half a lap.

And Rodney then tweeted after, obviously, just not having the ability to make that decision on their own if they only had to really change some tires. Spot on, spot off, Brett. Spot off. Period. Spot off. Yeah, I don't know how it can't be spot off. This has to stop happening. I mean, these guys spent three days of their life.

They left their families at home with a hurricane coming, and they spent a gazillion dollars to build this car and drive this car across country, fly across country to be able to qualify, practice, race it. And you didn't let them because they have four flat tires. Are you, are you, are you, are you, I thought we had a deal better for this? How are we three years into this car and we don't know how to get around the track without flats? I know the Bollies, but I don't know what happened. They must have lost them somewhere. We're three years into this car and we have not figured out how to get it to move around with flat tires. Like, how is that possible?

If you don't hit the wall, they bring you to pit road. Is that what the deal is? If you do hit the wall, they take you to the garage and you're done with four flat tires. I could tell because we were invested in a little bit because the four was pitted in front of us. And I looked down and they were on the wall with tires, waiting for him to come and I watched them turn in that cut through and back in the back stretch. They could have just as easily drug him to a spitbox. Yeah.

And they, but they turned in and I heard one Josh, I seen a tweet from Josh radio. It's like, Rodney, they got me in the campground. Like, they were telling them through that backway. And I'm like, they're done. Right. Like once they've home in there, that's over there. Then they, like, obviously they did not think they were done. They were on the payroll.

I didn't TV interview Rodney Childers. Listen, Rodney, I think Rodney is usually one of the more even keel guys in the score. Oh, 100%. So when he sweets out. When he tweets out that this is the worst thing he's ever seen in 25 years in NASCAR, that should say something. And what are you going to do when this eventually happens to one of your final four guys? Like, I get it.

They're going to be a couple laps down, which that's already a problem that you're going to, just because you've got flat tires, you're going to lose five laps trying to get to pit road or waiting for them to tow you to pit road with dollies or whatever the hell else it takes when you probably could be a lap down, driving it back. But you're still in the race. What happened to the inner liner? that we used to have. Can you not do them with this time?

I guess not. I don't know. I just, it's, I, you, we cannot have this continue on. Like in, and I'm just, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm going to say it. It's not fair to Rodney. It's not fair to Josh. It's not fair to their partners.

It's not fair to anybody on that team. No. Like, that's one rate. You know, that's this race. And you can say, well, you know, they've had an awful stretch here the last month or two. But I'm like, what are you going to tell people when this, is going to happen eventually to somebody in that final four.

And you're going to eliminate a championship contender because he got a flat tire. I mean, it could happen this weekend. Yeah. You could, you know, he knows easily. Especially at Tallade. There's a wreck in front of you. You sit hitting the brakes. You start sliding down the, you know, the backstress somewhere.

You don't hit anything. You get flat tires. So what should the protocol be then? Like how long it takes? The protocol should be that NASCAR doesn't deem you unable to race. Here's what I want to know. Who's making that decision back? there. Like who's making the decision on where is it somebody in the booth because they see a replay

where he touched the wall or because it's not like Brad Moran and Elton Sawyer out there running around in the tow trucks and can look at the car and see, you know, we're relying on a tow truck driver to tell you if the car's damaged or not or, you know, like I don't understand what that protocol is and that's the question I'll have to ask, you know, Elton or whoever I want to see him. Like, who's making the decision that he goes to the campgrounds versus back to pit road? You know, where does that decision come from? I mean, I, I mean, I'm. I assume it's got to be somebody in the booth, but there were they getting there. Are they watching a replay?

Maybe John Soco on the roof. He's too busy dealing with you guys. Soco's got his hands full dealing with a bunch of idiot spotters. Don't think he's making that call, though. I don't think so. But yeah, I don't, it's got to be, something's got to change. If this happened to TJ yesterday. Oh, God.

He's already in the bad. Like right now, he's kind of chill about this, but this happened to him. I was waiting for him to say it's not a big deal. He's ignoring you. He got it. He gave his blood pressure would be higher than mine right now. Sorry, I was reading text. What do you say?

Shifting gears. I've been freaking out. He's so damn mad. Shifting gears to the Exfinity race. Cole Custer and Chandler Smith were battling for the lead and Custer got squeezed into the outside wall. Custer was passed by Eric Amarola to finish second and said afterwards about Chandler. I told him if he was going to race me like a clown, I'm going to race him like a clown.

He's going to be. have it coming back to them now. Spot on, spot off, TJ. I don't, I mean, spot on because I like now that we have two guys that are, you know, race for a championship and they're kind of enemies now, seems like, so that we're all going to win from this scenario.

But I don't know, uh, you could kind of see this coming for lap after lap. I mean, Cole was getting closer. Chandler was running the turn down line in three four and Cole is running up against the wall and the meet point was right at the exit and it was getting close sometimes and I mean I'm not surprised Chandler's not going to just let you have it he's going to keep doing it until he knows that you're either not going to lift or and it puts him in a

bad spot at that point in time but apparently he didn't think he wasn't worried about Cole making that choice so he kept going until Cole eventually ran himself into the fence right there and instead of getting into Chandler and, you know, worked out. My favorite part about social media is you go look at this comment, right? And the thread will say, Cole Custer's an idiot. He did it to himself. And the very next tweet will say,

Chandler's a clown. He drives like a moron. And it's like, well, which one is it? Like, I'm going to say spot off because, and I could go on and on about this, but you can't say you're going to do something. Because then if you do something,

the NASCAR has to react, right? Yes. So you're spot off about what he said. I'm spot off. He said anything. Not the situation. I mean, racing's racing. This is why people race, right? If they go out there and they're all nice to each other and Chase Briscoe leaves two lanes

open, Kyle Busch drives right around him and laps him and maybe goes on to win the race. This is why you race hard. And there are certain points in the race. Really in the cup race now, you race hard every lap. The gentleman agreement, it's gone. Like, nobody lets anybody go anymore.

Because they know when you catch them back, they're not going to let you go. So, I mean, the days of Jeff Burton and Clint Boyer and Tony Stewart and Jimmy Johnson, that's gone. It's over.

These dudes are racing their balls off in every series now. And it's some of the best racing you'll ever see because of it. You might, you know, the only thing I take away from this. And I agree, it's racing for the lead. And,

and, you know, obviously, Cole's going to be upset. because he got running the fence and then the 20 run him down and and beat him at the end but my concern is and only because he's a friend of mine is chanler you know chanler has a habit of getting out and getting after the race is over and going and yelling at people for for racing them hard you know we saw with mayor we saw a couple weeks go with i think maybe was even sheldon you know

you're the perception of you got to sometimes and i he's not making any friends and i don't think he cares like that's one of the things that that's fine i don't have any problem with that but the outside perception of chandler changes because people see him get out of the car and then go down there and yell at somebody for racing him hard and then they see chanler do what he's just got mad about he's doing himself um so you know that's the only thing i concern about the only thing i'm saying here is don't like if if you're by all means race anybody you want to death but you cannot get out and be upset when it comes back to you sometimes so um you know that's the only concern i have us so which I know Chandler.

He's a great kid. I just hate that. I've seen a lot of the same comments. People on the roof talk about it. You know, that he's getting a perception of, you know, he whines about it when he happens to him,

but he's one of the hardest guys to race with out there anyway. So that's, I hate that perception for him. But I enjoy a mad Custer at the same time because Custer is one of my favorite people. And he's so funny. And then when he's, when he's mad,

it's even hard not to laugh at him. Because it's like, oh, he's mad, you know? Even his, like, his tone when he walked away from Chandler, I mean, if you watch it on you, it's so funny. Yeah, it's

he just snaps, too. Remember, Montreal, Canadian, whatever, well, not Montreal, but a Canadian tire sports party. Yeah. Yeah, he just, it's like a snapping turtle. Dude, he just snapped. Speared him. And he takes run down the front stretch. I mean. Goldberged him. Yeah.

All right, Freddie. We have some exciting news coming up for the Roval race. Yeah. Next week. right when the hell do we go the roval after taladaega yeah that's exciting yeah we're gonna do a little party uh it's in the infield where are we at where are we going here tj i don't even know i haven't i think it's over there betweens turns uh one two three three and fourish in that area um i think it's betweens uh turns somewhere you always put the ass on the word between somewhere you know that walkover bridge over there and yeah yeah in that area in that area i got you

uh listen it's free to anyone with a race ticket it's located in the infield obviously we just talked about where at. TJ Jordan Bianchi and myself will be there after our show. And I'm sorry, we'll be there. And then after our show, DJ Slim McGraw. What a name that is. It sounds like Eminem and Tim McGraw. Is it you, Brett?

Well, I think the Slim kind of eliminates me. I mean, Tim McGraw either. He'll be there and then we'll have fireworks afterwards for just in our honor. Do we get to light the fireworks? Yeah, I think so. I think that every time we've done this, There's been a lot of beer involved on stage. So hopefully they don't let us near any pyrotechnics.

But yeah, it'll be a party. It'll be fun. It's after the Xfinity race on Saturday night. So come and hang out. I believe it's, there's a scheduled time or no. I don't know. But it's probably sometime about an hour after race. Yeah, about an hour after race or so.

So, yeah, have come hang out. It'll be fun time. One dude brought us like a case of moonshine one time. If you're coming, don't come. If you're uninvited. At one time, you got heckled by that. Hostvar fan, I think. I could hear.

Me and Brett literally had a case of moonshine hiding under a table in somebody's display because we couldn't carry it, keep carrying a case of moot chat around. So we were just, it was like a, it was like a, we don't have a little still back there somewhere. But yeah, it'll be a blast. Yeah, it should be. Basically go watch the Xfinity race and then head over and check out Jordan, T.J. And Freddie. What interests do you what Jordan wears?

Give Jordan a dress code for this. He'll have some. Can he dress up like Brett? him what we'll ever want to dress like we should tell him what we're going to wear and not we wear that and then I think y'all shall wear sport coats like he does. Let's tell him we're going to wear sport coats. Just let him wear it. I'll let him buy me a suit like he bought Gluck for Daytona this year.

That was embarrassing. That was embarrassing, he said. It was, did you see Gluck? Gluck was right. I would have to say yes. All right. We are going to check our reaction to their phone line when we come back. Hey, now it's time for our favorite segment reaction theater where the fans are the stars of the show.

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Oh, God, live reaction from a Chastain fan. Final lap coming off of two. Oh, it's been a rough season, boys. Come on. No. Keep coming. Come on. Why do you say no? Yes. Well, fellas, the melon felon has struck again.

The melon felon. Back crack house racing. Number one in the cabota car. And he won it fair and square without wrecking anybody. Hell, he got Kyle Busch to wreck himself. Brett, shout out to the watermelon people out there in Paisland. Oh, damn here for this. go home.

Come up, Watermelon. Hey, question for Brett. I'm going down to Columbia for the first time next weekend to watch some rebels kick some f***ing cock for about three and a half hours. Anywhere I should go to give myself a cold beer, try not to end up like Freddie. Thanks. Bye. Bro, y'all lost to Kentucky.

Kentucky sucks. You back. Breaks off you. The Cox beat Kentucky, right? The Cox rolled Kentucky. Yeah. Yeah. So you're confident.

Juice Wells had zero catches against Kentucky. Who? going to Columbia, man. There's a lot of good places go down there. Where should he go, Freddie? No, there's not. I don't know. I've never been there.

Pretty can't remember. I'll tell you what. Don't call me or Clint or Clint tell you what. Don't call me or Clint's information about Columbia. Clint's dumb. He went to the Clemson game. God, it's been about five, six years ago.

He left his wallet in an Uber. Columbia is just tough on people. It's a hard place. It's tough. Trust me. I've never left there with a dollar in my pocket. I will say that. Every time I wake up, I'm like,

where the hell to hell to all my money go. And it's zero. I guess where do you send somebody? I mean, I don't lose as much money as you did. Freddy comes back. Freddy had a $10,000 Columbia train. That's only an hour and a half from here.

That's like his vacation in England. Yeah. I wish I could tell you where to go, but I don't know anywhere we went. So it's funny. Oh, boy. Don't go to the food line. You're a credit card with a food line.

I don't know if you did. It's been there. There's been a lot of food lines in that city. Your cell phone was all over town, too. Anyway, where are you going to tell this guy to go anywhere? I mean, go to Bourbon. It's on Main Street. Get a, what's that drink called?

Heart of darkness. Heart of darkness. Heart of darkness. Yeah, go to Bourbon. Go to Hall's Chop House. Go to Blue Marlin. Yeah, there's a bunch of good spots. Oh, God.

I don't know how to feel because on one end, I'm a Bush fan. And I don't want him to lose the shit. but on the other hand, I'm a Ross fan. And I don't want to hit the loose. Every time there's a leader change, I don't know what to be pissed off or happy. I'm not okay. God.

Why does this have to be such confusing sport? Keep me there. Really? Go one. I'll tell you one thing. I meant to say this after the first call. It's awesome. How passionate some of our fans are.

I remember there's a clip when Chase won. One of there's a guy going nuts. And it's just cool to see that stuff. You know, it's a lot of times we, talk about it becoming work for us. You know, you're on the road traveling a lot. And when you see what it means to some people, it really hits home sometimes. My man, Kyle Cush, leading the race. Yeah. We're going to smoke one for some Kyle Cush. We like Kyle Cush. Get it done, Kyle Cush. I thought he said Cush the first. I was like, wait a minute,

I don't think he's smoking cigarettes. I got to be honest. I don't think it's a cigar. He's definitely not. I think he might be smoking something else. short skinny ones. I've noticed a pattern with a brisco and I got some advice for his cut drivers. Not that I've ever driven a cut car or any race car, really. I went to police driving academy, but I don't think that counts. When y'all going around this some you're way faster than him and he moves up. Stop checking up.

Stay in the gas and put that motherfucker on the wall. That's when this will stop. That is when it will stop. I feel so damn sorry for Kyle Busch. God, what you allow will continue. Y'all remember that shit on November. Chase Briscoe, dude, you are a jack-jack.

You're a lap down. You can't just give the leader the outside line, the entire corner, and then decide, oh, I'm just going to pinch him off right here on corner exit. That is called racing. If you want to block the leader, then block him the whole cuck. Take his line away on entry and force him to take the bottom. And here's the thing.

He knew what he was doing. He knew what was going to happen with that move. He was trying to force a caution, and he got it. What a f*** clown. I swear to God, Chris Briscoll has the IQ of a door handle. That inbred in that shitting piece of fissil to get beat the d' by having his brain spasping by Cowish with the Sierra Lord. Sub-25th place car, 26 to go, 20 laps remaining. What does he do?

Gee, let me block a fucking leader. What is he going to do? Finish 25th and 2026. You're still going to suck dog Anyway, you f***, idiot. And what does he do with all that wreck after Kyle Busch and the 20 year, win a year, or, I'm so, that thing,

I can't even f***. What did he do after wrecking Kyle Busch? He still gets up to him. Why? Because he sucks. He f***ed Kyle Busch. He fissed spread. And he's going to f***ing.

Joe gives racing when he goes there. That clown. Why'd you beep the word dick out? He seemed upset. He was very upset. And if you're a Kyle Busch fan, though, you would be upset. Yeah. So if you block the whole corner, it's okay.

You can block the whole corner, just not just one other corner. He wasn't blocking. He was clear on exit. The last I checked, Chase Briscoe is racing for a lot more than Kyle Bush right now. Yeah. No, I don't agree with that. Chase Briscoe. I don't.

How many years is Kyle Bush one race? 19, I think. Chase Briscoe advances the next round. How big would it be for Chase Briscoe to advance the next round? I'm not saying Chase isn't racing for. a lot. He's racing for a championship. Kyle's not. Kyle's racing for what? A win? I mean, I think

he's racing for just as much. Does he need another one? Yeah, to keep a streak alive. Oh, so. I mean, what I loved about, what I loved about Ricky Rudd was his winning streak. I mean, that literally made me a Ricky Red fan. Chase Briscoe ain't racing for a championship. He's mathematically still alive. He is in the

playoff. He is in the playoffs. But he's not racing for a championship. If you were Chase Briscoe, I think you'd go for a team. I'm not mad at Chase Briscoe. I'm just saying he's racing for more. I said earlier, Chase Briscoe didn't do anything wrong. I just said now if I'm a Kyle Busch fan, I would be pissed off at Chase Brisco. I mean, I would be too.

But Chase is going to do. Chase loses a lap right there. His race is flipped. He goes from racing, everybody in front of him to racing whoever's behind him right then to try to send an elite lap. Like there's a huge, Kasha comes out. He gets a word of end up, do you know? Probably back there where I think he said 20. The caution comes out.

How many times we've seen it? The guy almost gets lap. Kosh comes out. He has a good pit stop, moves up a little bit, has a great restart. He's plus eight now. And I'm not, Chase might need those points when it comes down after the roll. I don't know what you're debating with right now. Chase is racing for more than Kyle.

I disagree with you. Hey, you guys want to play a fun drinking game? How about you take a drink every time? Burton says a little bit, not even a little bit. It's a little bit. It's a little bit lower than him. Jesus Christ, man. I'd be f***ed up if I played that game.

Sounds fun. Poor Jeff Burton. That's just a little bit of South Boston coming out in them. A little bit. You know, I like seeing, you know, WWE in NASCAR. I really enjoy white trash stuff, hence why I love the both of them. But, like, Cole Custer had the prime opportunity to, like, I don't know, kick cameras, Smith in the nuts, and then hit him with a stone cold stunner.

or like Stompson I mean for a f*** sake you got you got the WWE on them dude throw at least a fake punch I mean it doesn't need to be real fighting wrestling's fake anyway Stone Cole's though

well fuck Cole Custer's double chin must be cutting off circulation to a fet or something I mean I thought it was a great grace I understand Chandler might have might have chopped them a little bit might have took some air off of them

whatever you want to say but holy fuck you're going for the wind like I don't know what else you could go for And I understand that lap two, lap three, we're under 20 to go. This is for the win. I mean, let's be honest, once Eric Allen roll, it gets there happens if something happens between him and Custer, you know, then he's the winner. I don't know what the f***s problem is, but tubby needs to figure it to f*** out.

Actually, it wasn't for the win because Eric won. I didn't see what happened. Chandler running him in the fence. I got to that point right on next to the corner. Was it two or off a four? Off of four. You know, Chandler was running that turndown deal and Cole was almost getting there. and he was to the point where he was he was going to he was there basically and and he hit the wall and lifted to save them from i think that if if any if cole

cole was probably very angry at the end of that race obviously him and chanler had contact but uh i forget who it was might have been the 44 car ran like we're the the officials actually were doing a really good job of telling guys like look what's in your mirror what the lap cars i shouldn't talk about look what's in your mirror look what's coming you know don't try not to be in fact you know factor in the you know factor in the you end of this race because it's obviously a good race. And the 44 ran Custer's line for the lab, which he's not doing anything wrong. He's on lead lap. So he's in his well and his right.

But I think that's how the 20 caught Cole. And then the 20, 20 was really good on long runs all day long, really. Yeah. But I was surprised he was back in that car. I thought he was out of that car. Yeah, who knows. Who knows? That's his second win of the year, right?

Yeah, he won two. Yes, he went somewhere else. I don't remember where. No, Indy he lost. You, this is his second window. I can't remember. I just called and left a message about what a great job T.J. did spot. And you can delete that one.

I kind of messed it up. And I really want to call back and get brits and good fat asses and f***ing and stuff. So I'll call back later when I've got my head on straight. Appreciate it. I got his mind. And here he is again. Did he call back? No, never did.

The best part is I never found his first call. Oh, I'm sure you did. He probably didn't. Dharf. I haven't heard that word now. All right, last one. I'm going to die of liver poisoning. Just watching the second car try to complete a

race in the playoffs. God, like being a Cowboys fan. Just good enough to give a fuck. Man, listen. He's talking about Allgaier. And I don't know. he can get mad at me again if he wants to. Do you get mad at you before?

Well, I'm saying he got mad at you or one of us. He got up. Yeah. He's being his own worst enemy right now. I don't, he's so fast. Like last week had none to do with him. He just wrong place, wrong time. But this week, you know, he just running up Sheldon Creed's ass to the corner and then gets on his left rear and

then packs air and Sheldon gets loose and hits the wall and comes down and wrecks him. You know, and it's, Sheldon continues on and now Justin's days over. And I don't even look. I'm sure he's still got a decent cushion, but like, you know, you see this a lot. I feel like it happens a lot with him. It's just he's got to be smart. He's got such a fast race car.

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So basically, does Dale suck or is he better? Well, I mean, comparing like Brad, Brad is much more aware of what's going on at times. He's obviously a skilled veteran that's been around. So Connor is learning all these things. He's learning air. He's learning all these moves to make because he doesn't know. So working with Connor trying to paint a picture of what can happen and you go over things pre-race like during a week.

You talk about scenarios. You're about to be in and what to do when they happen. So him actually, you know, talking about it and then letting it play out on the racetrack is probably, you know, it's definitely challenging. But it's rewarding to see, you know, to say something on the radio where, hey, you know, like we talked about this week, then see it that transform on the track as well as is always rewarding. But I don't know, anytime you can run good in a cup race, these cup races are, I wish we could put a level of how hard they are to win and how difficult these races really are because it is hard. And to come out of somewhere with the top five definitely makes your week a lot better. And no matter what series you run.

Yeah, I feel like it's more rewarding. I don't know if you guys agree. Obviously, like I've been friends of Bubba for, I mean, I've responded for 15 years. Obviously, it's very rewarding when we run good. But he doesn't need me as much as he did 15 years ago by any means. So when you get out there, like you talk about Dawson Sutton and I, you know, you feel when you get a kid like that a good finish or, you know, help him get a good finish, you know, it feels a little more rewarding. You know, you're trying to help him a little bit more than I would any, you know, other driver of Bubba, namely. You know, so it's more rewarding, I think.

when you can help a, feel like you help a young kid. Okay. Next question is from Jim. Which tracks have the best and worst facilities for spotters? So it's ironic. The best track for spotters is probably the worst location for spotters. This Phoenix, I think, is by far the best spotter stand in the series.

You haven't all these bug bites on you two idiots? I would say Kansas is the worst spotter stand. Kansas is a good spotter stand. It is good. It's good. You might want some bug spray. You might want some bug spray. Yeah, no, that was working.

Somebody had it. Yeah. I don't know. The one I dislike the most is Pocono, and it really has none to do with the spotter stand. It's just the angles of, you know, you're close to the race track and it's a damn mile down to turn one. So it's really hard to see. Darlington, you're on top of each other. Yeah, Darlington, you're on top of each other.

Or looking over cameras. Yeah, but just looking over those cameras. Yeah, turn four is a little sketch. Like, Darlington's is tight. Coda. Code is tough. Coat is tough. Code is definitely tough.

Did you ever? Yeah, you did, yeah. I've done two spotter stands there and I didn't like either one of them. You got eaten up there, didn't you? I got bit from every, yep. Is that where there was a rattlesnake or something? Yes, there was a rattlesnake there too. Maybe that's the top of it. Well, they're coming up that hill at you on those restarts and you're like,

good luck. Yeah, middle of 18. Yeah, six wide, your third from the bottom. Now you're wrecked. It's a little bit better now than to move the restart zone. So, yeah, it's definitely better. All right. Well, on a similar note,

Tyler asks if any of you have chucked something off the roof or at another spotter out of frustration, which I feel like there could be a few examples here. I think Brett chucked a fist at one spotter one time. Oh, well, that was an idiot. I almost got in trouble for that. He's not there anymore. But I tell you what happened to me at homestead is I had my keys on my finger. and I sat my drink down

and my keys slipped off and they slid down that roof and it literally sounded like a jet was taking off. So Homestead is up. They went to the stands and I'm like, damn it.

Nobody was there. It was like the opening day of practice on Thursday or something. But I had to go down and find my keys. We had Bristol. We had one of the spotters lose his timer.

We used to have timers out for practice when we used to practice for some days. No, no. This is a timer. And the funny thing was the guy made it himself. He's a very talented fabricator. And he made it himself and it had his logo on it.

So it goes down to grandstands and hit somebody. So we get in a little bit of trouble about, hey, guys, do not. You know, let's fall off the roof. This is obviously very dangerous. So we're like, yeah, we apologize. Guy couldn't get denied it because his logo was on there. I'm surprised he and bring up the sandwich. We go, well, that sandwich.

We only tried to kill the track president that day. The next week or like two weeks later, we're a Pocono. And thank God. one of the spotters fan visions, which you know how big they are. Oh, that's baby. And we're the, they're right below that. I remember that. And it goes right below us.

And thank God. I looked at it. We saw, and when it happens, everybody knows it. Like we all see it go down there. And we just look at each other. And I'm like, oh, we're going to be a lot of shit for this. Like, and luckily, I look down.

Shout out to Anthony Bazella, who was a young up and coming spotter at the time. He spot some modified stuff now. Hit him in the head. Like. thank God it hit him because anybody else probably would have sued us to death and then a guy would have been probably thrown off the roof forever but thank God Anthony Anthony didn't say anything but that was that was a dangerous day. This next one is from Chris.

Are you guys at all surprised that colleague would take Dylan instead of Corey with Corey already being a Chevy driver? Corey LaJoy. Well, joy. Obviously there's some other factors in place. there. I think you get a pretty good deal on your engines with Ty Dillon in your car. I would assume they would their alliance with RCR. So I'm sure that played a big factor. And you know that the engine deal is, I mean, millions of dollars a year, right, to lease engines.

So if you're getting per car. So if you got a guy that if Corey LaJoy has two million in sponsorship and you can get a $4 million discount on engines. I think the big win for colleague there too is obviously RCR has an invested interest in Ty Dillon. Yeah, for sure. And they want him to run well. So the alliance probably just got a lot stronger for Colleg Racing, which I know they want to happen. And I know they're making a lot of investments into being faster next year. So I think it's a win-win, honestly. Like I get, you know, why you would say, you know, pick Corey LaJoy over Ty Dillon, but I think the big picture is Ty Dillon.

Yeah. And to your point, Ty was driving that 25 truck all year. They were heavily, RCR was heavily invested in getting that truck better, you know, and they did throughout the year to the point where one time I, we go out for practice and Stockman is on the radio making adjustments. So, you know, there's, they were obviously, were and still are very heavily invested in Ty. Next one is from Dustin.

How worried should Reddick be after finishing 25th? He better be worried. I mean, this is two wild card races, and I know he's going to be fast at the roble, but so a lot of other people. Yeah, and this, like, we talked about earlier with the numbers game, you know, you have to, we have to come up with a different strategy to get stage points at this next week. You know, you know, the fords are going to be up there. They just always are. That's the way it goes. The Chevys have shown that they can cycle to the lead on pit cycles and kind of get, you know, get to the front and stay there on these stages. So we have to have a better plan than them coming in, and it's hard to do when you have.

have six cars versus 15. You know, they, they don't have to execute their pit stops perfectly. They can leave pit road with, you know, half of their group and still haul ass, where if we lose one or two cars off our group on a speeding penalty or, or some guy, you know, they have a bad pit stop. Now we're, we're at a deficit. So, you know, it's, it's hard to get stage points. So Tyler's definitely got to be on high alert.

Now he couldn't, like Larson, when you have a gap, you can't afford to have a bad race, especially at a place where you're expected to be good, and they both unfortunately did yesterday. I also want to note, T.J, you are here, right? Your Tesla didn't break. Somebody was asking if you guys were here. If you're just a little quiet. That was a one-time thing. T.J's in the bad mood today. Listen, if that thing didn't start, I wouldn't be here. I would not. I'd probably be torching my legs right now to try to get these bug lights on because they're annoying. They are. Oh. From Melissa. From a few weeks back, how did Brett know so much about Viagra?

I'm not sure I want to know the answer to this one, but I guess we'll ask it. Did you know a lot about Viagra? I think we were joking around about the milligrams or something. I don't remember. I remember I text you about it. I know they're blue diamond-looking things. I missed the Viagra car. That was a hard one to pass.

So next question. What is this? Anyways, this is next one is from Tanner. If you could build an all-time dream team, who would be your driver-cru team and manufacturer? Well, I mean, is this going to be a 20-minute discussion right here? Let's just pick. Let's just pick a driver-cru chief. Y'all want to just pick one?

You know, we'll each take a category. Done. TJ, you first. This is pretty easy, I think. I think pick crew or 1420 on me to do. You can't pick Kyle Larson. You can't pick him? No.

You want to do the driver? So he's off limits? Yeah. Why is he off limits? Why? Because he's the best driver. So you think that. I'm going to go out on a limb.

I'm going to take Chad Canauss and Jimmy Johnson. Done. They weren't not good. No. They only won seven championships and 80 races. I didn't think that was that difficult of a question. Yeah. I mean,

it's hard to argue seven times. And dominant. Like, Chef Gordon Ray Eberhan was pretty damn good too. Weird T.J. that you're not picking Dale. Not, not, not. Well, they didn't stay together.

Yeah. That's true. Not Dale. I mean, had they say together. Oh, interesting. Who knows. So no other duos? I mean, it's hard to.

It's hard to mix a match. Like, I think Gabe Hart and Denny are a great duo. I don't know you, Gabe Hart and Larson, does that make a difference? You know what I mean? Like, it's hard to quantify what you. I think Kyle Larson could win with you as his group chief. Oh, I, right. That's probably not true.

you can definitely win with me as a spotter. Like he doesn't need me or anybody else a spot for him. Probably a guy runs half his life without a spotter or a mirror or anything. So I could probably just get up there to lounge chair and have out of buddy. All right. Miss Circle 5638. What tech do spotters use that most people don't know about? This is probably a T.J.

with his million. I mean, I'll use the same stuff. So I mean, looking at if you look at setups on the roof, there's nobody that has more stuff than probably. True herring for sure. What is he how that's different? He has two backpacks. He has, I don't even know.

I think he changed it up. Nick Payne has the biggest spotter bag I've ever seen in my life. It's not a bag. It's a case in there. No, there's no snags. It's, I don't even know what the happens. I saw Nick without a hat on the other week. I didn't even recognize him.

Really? Yeah. People probably say that about you. So basically, TJ's cool suit is the pretty much the only tech that's different. Tech? I don't consider that tech. I don't know. Maybe I'm, I could be wrong. But I don't use, do you, I mean, you use a tablet.

TJ's tablet. Yeah. He had a problem the other day with it. But I don't, I'm trying to spot. Like I'm trying to. And I'm like to, like literally, I think it was Pocono a couple weeks ago. I don't, I don't like to look down at when Bubba's on the racetrack. I don't want to be watching him or watching me going on around.

I mean, Pocono like three weeks ago, we fire off a practice and Fido had SMP open next to me. So I just looked down at it. I'm watching to go into one to see like what lift you can't see in turn one anyway. So I'm like looking to see like, all right. Like we see how Bubba drives into one compared to Tyler. And as I'm looking at that, Tyler spins out right in front of us. And I'm, I look up and there's small. Oh shit.

I check up with him. Bubba's like a little late there. I'm like, yeah, no shit. What are you looking? But like, I don't, I don't know. I get it. It's very valuable information that you have down there. But I have the same information on my phone that I can go to if I need it.

Um, as far as timing and scoring. I use the tablet because it's easier to see. Yeah. my your phone uh a lot of times there's overheat like it overheats and your screen dims and you can't see it like i don't know like in this the the tub that i have is an outdoor just rugged thing and i just use it timing and scoring and i've got it laid out exactly what i need to see and i just mean i don't do anything other than lap times and running order really that's all you use it for lap count um sometimes how many to go into stage how many go in the race yeah i just like things like

that i know people have smt open live i couldn't do that like i wouldn't want to do that i don't I don't see a benefit. That's not, to me, I don't see a benefit of that. I have a, I got a button on my radio that can connect me to a war room, basically. I don't care. I don't have the war room, but I talk to the pit box. And the pit box talked to the war room. And they got just about every piece of information I could ever need.

So if I have a question, I'm sure I can ask them. During the race, I don't think that's our job to diagnose what the car, where it's missing speed at. That's not really our job at that point. I don't believe. Next one is from one of our biggest fans, Master of Lights, 24. He's been missing the show live. He's probably excited to me at this time. Great.

Do you guys think Kyle Wishes 19-year winning streak comes to an end this season? TJ, is it a big deal? I mean, I don't think it's that big of a deal. I mean, it is to Kyle, but would I be surprised of Kyle won? I would absolutely not be surprised with Kyle won. Would I be surprised if he doesn't win? I probably also would not be surprised he doesn't win either. But Kyle is the type of guy.

He's one of them guys that he can wreck six races in a row, and then he's going to win the next three. and he's just one of them guys that has that ability. And he's been fast this year, so there's no reason why he couldn't win two or three races coming up. There's also, looking at his year, there's also the possibility that he doesn't finish any of them either. But, I mean, Kyle's won.

His, I mean, he's won pretty much everything there is to win. And, I mean, there's a couple races that he hasn't won, obviously that he wants to. But, man, like, his stats, like, are ridiculous. So Kyle, I know he's not happy winning, but he's still accomplished. I mean, more than most probably ever. I mean, how many wins does he got total? I'm going to guess 65. Yeah, I would say.

But I don't know how many. I mean, that's ridiculous. So for cup wins. The they've, they've gotten fast. I mean, they've had, they've been in contention for sure for a bunch the last month or two. You know, he'll be in contention this week. They've been fast at my, you know, the speedway races. So I don't see him.

I mean, he'll be in contention maybe at the roll, but I don't see that being a place where he's going to win. 63. You were way off. Where else? There we go. Homestead. Homestead.

If he was as fast as he was yesterday, he's going to be fast on Homestead, I think. For sure. You know, there's plays he can definitely contend. And honestly, being a fan of the sport and somebody's, you know, you want to see him win. You want to see that street continue. But hopefully we can beat him.

David Foster asks, Thoughts on Kyle Petty comparing Seabell to Casey Kane and Kyle Larson as drivers who can't finish races. Ouch. That was a tough question. So here's a good news about Kyle Petty. He tells you exactly what he thinks. And he's entitled to whatever he thinks. And if he, you think, if you disagree with him, that doesn't mean he's wrong.

It just means you disagree with him. So I get tired of hearing the same. every time I turn on a race. Give me a guy like Kyle Petty that's going to challenge me or say something like that, whether you agree with him or not. I mean, Casey Kane, man, I remember him finishing second, I believe five times as a rookie. In like 2003, 2004, when he rolled up on the scene in the number nine Dodge car. And I remember a very prevalent car owner at the time said,

you'll never make it because you like to run the top more than you like to run the bottom. And I think he did all right. He did okay. but I mean Casey Kane had a tremendous career in my mind I mean what do you win 18 races I forget how many races he went 18 you just had a list up what did you I don't know can you guess I had a Kyle Bush list up I would say yeah

well that that was the thing I'm somebody I forget when the comment was made I don't know if it was in you know replying to Kyle but remember Casey took that picture he has 18 cup wins I mean I said 18 but you remember he took that picture in his trophy room like there was a trophy out. He's like trying to figure out where to put it. And it was all cup wins. And he's like, it was because somebody was critical of, you know, he was popular but not fast or something like that. Whatever. I can't remember who said it. And he's like, well, this, you know, where do I put

this or something like that? But yeah, there are certain drivers that helped our sport get more popular. And Casey Kane was one of them. When he rolled up, he was like new kids on the blog, made it to NASCAR. Like he brought all the teenage fans with him. And he was tremendous for it. And the fact that he was so cute definitely helped. I mean, yeah. I'm sorry. I don't know. I guess. So, like, for me, Case Kane had a great career. I mean, Christopher Bell, he's one of the best talents out there right now. Yes. And what you say on here all the time, you know, sometimes guys run out of talent.

And the reason why they, we're saying that, we're not saying they, like their talent disappears. They overstep their end. That's because guys like Christopher, guys like Kyle, or the ones you see it happen to the most, is because they trust their talent so much that they are on the edge at all times. Christopher's leading the race yesterday and gets, you know, snaps free and he hits the fence. We've seen him numerous times, you know, spin out. But that's only because he is driving every lap on the edge of that. You know, like a lot of guys aren't willing to go there.

So, you know, they're never going to run that talent because they're never pushing their talents as far as these guys are. So Christopher is extremely fast. He's going to be fast. If he gets into the final four, he's probably going to be the favorite. Like he is an unbelievable race car driver. and if he can just maybe go down to 90% sometimes and get to the end of these races clean, you know, that's where you're really going to see him shine.

Next one is from CEO. My brother is going to Talladega for the first time. What places and events are a must-do? Boulevard, hands down. Oh, yeah, the boulevard. I don't know. Do they do the big one at this where they do the drivers? Yeah, the parade through the boulevard.

And then the concert. Yeah. So go to the concerts. There's really not a lot around the racetrack to do. I would just, if you're camping, stay at the racetrack, stay there as long as you can. If you're not camping, have a drive. The dirt track. The dirt track is across the street.

If you want to be covered in red clay for the rest of the weekend. But yeah, there's really not much to do. Unless you're staying in like Oxford-Aniston area. That's where most of the team stays. Some guys stay in Leeds. There's a bunch of places. But yeah, most of the funds had at the racetrack all weekend. Agreed.

Do you see a non-playoff driver winning the championship round again this year? And this one's from Turn 4 podcast. I assume it just means winning a race. Yes. I think it's... Ross did it, obviously. Yeah. The top three at one point yesterday, we're all non-playoff.

Yeah. The only guy that I noticed. William was up there. I saw at one point, the 48 was the only guy that's the highest finishing guy that was in the playoffs. Yeah. It's odd for that to happen. And listen, Talladeg is certainly a place where a non-playoff guy can win. After that, I think it's all playoff guys.

So the Roval, I mean, last year, AJ won. And it's because, you know, guys at the Roval being a cutoff race, guys are chasing points. Yeah. So the guys that are there for wins, which I don't, who's running the Roble, AJ or I assume it's AJ right? I would not be surprised if they both run it, but I don't know. Yeah, I don't know either. I know I've seen a list and I don't think SVG is running, but I'm pretty sure AJ is.

Okay. But AJ is just, he's only there to win the race. So he's going to be doing with flipping stages, getting track position while other guys are, there's going to be guys that have to chase points. They have to pit. They, you know, they have to run the stage out. So that's why that's, You can see an upset win there.

Probably just AJ is about the only one. There's going to be guys that are that are just Hail Mary for the win there. But yeah, and this week obviously is wide open to anybody. Yeah, for sure. Next one is from Michael Erickson. Do spotters have their own spots at tracks like you can't stand there? That's TJ's spot. I'm assuming, yes, TJ.

I've seen Brett rip somebody's tape off from a couple of times. I've never done such. We are like I'm 20 years into going to these tracks. So, you know, you just go to the same spot you've been going to. And you, the reason why a lot of subtracks is not, it doesn't matter. But the reason why you go to your same place is because you spotted so many races from there that you're really comfortable with the angles. You can, you can call things quicker because you're more comfortable with it because you've seen it happen so many times. So you can be more aggressive with your calls because you're comfortable.

Yeah. And it's important. It is important. And, you know, sometimes, uh, there are places where it doesn't. really matter. It's kind of the same thing. But like you just kind of, it's a, it's, I don't know, you just go to the same place. It's like seniority. It's, you know, yeah, sometimes we like Taledager recently built a new spotter stand, which needs to be about 10 people bigger. But they, you know, when you do that, then basically all the team guys got together, like all the Toyota's kind of

stand together, all the forwards. But what happens is then somebody switches out the Toyota camp or whatever gets a little clumsy. But yeah, yeah, you ever want to see TJ get stressed out, just go to a new track where there's no, no, no, no hierarchy. Or somebody sitting in a spot. Like guy or bathroom. Yeah. But then like we have guys. Some guys like some guys drive motorhomes.

So like that guy is like the track on a Tuesday or Wednesday and he could tape off a spot for all of his buddies. And then, you know, we get there Friday and everything's gone already. But yeah, it's pretty much just seniority. And like we tell the new guys, you stand back here. When everybody gets here, you find a spot. You get there. Then that's your spot. Well, usually there's a guy.

If there's a new guy. Somebody's on. Somebody's out. Yeah. So you kind of go where they were. Poor T.J. Bell, the funny thing, TJ Bell took that approach. He said, I'm going to stand wherever Brett was the whole time.

Brett's first year he quit. And so he did that. And then Brett decided to come back the next year and poor T.J. Bell got his tape ripped up everywhere. He said, I don't know. I think you might forfeit your spot. But Brett, Brett didn't believe it or not. That works.

What an idiot. Moving on to what an idiot. Who do you guys have this week? Gorda. He was so mad Friday night. Well, let me tell you. I'll tell you real quick why here. And Brett, I don't know if you saw his interview after the race.

I did not. It was pretty bad if you asked me. He said he went in a turn one and came up the track and used up Andy Jay, who has like two cars at most. They have to repair everything themselves. Like, it's, it's hard to get to the track. They got a lot of volunteers. They don't have a paid pit crew.

They got volunteers. And when you go and you use somebody up and you get down in the room, you say, I don't really care. I was here to win. You know, don't take my air. Like, first of all, that's not your air. It's your job to manage your car in the lane that you enter the corner in. If you go up the track and get in somebody's door and carry them all the way to the fence

and just get out and say, you know, I'm here to win. That's basically it. That just, I don't know. I have a, I don't like that attitude. I mean, I know you messed up, but just say, hey, I got in there. I'm learning. I got in there a little hard and, you know, got loose. And I'm just learning, man.

I hate that his car got tore up. But I didn't want, that's not what I had to have wanted to happen. But what do you think? Yeah. I mean, it's, you definitely need to have a little better response, I think. That wasn't the first time that happened that race. Yeah. Like there was multiple times.

So it's okay. He's learning. I gave mine away earlier. He'll be right. Oh, you gave it to that guy on the thing. Mine is me. Oh, for one. just even agreeing to go back and do an arc race was probably stupid on my part.

But then going down there and I had to get my radios program to do it. And which is another pain in the ass, obviously. Did that. Got my radios program. Got to the roof for practice. Went to take my stuff out. And I did not have a headset because my headset was still a Nauri. Are you sh-me?

No. I was like, oh, yeah. Good job. Stupid. So I had to borrow Joey Campbell's headset to practice. And then somebody, Ryan Blanche went and grabbed my headset out of the hauler.

for me and brought it up for truck practice. But yeah, not a good feeling when you go to unload all your bag and I'm like, wait a minute. Something's missing. Oops. Sound like me going wherever Nashville. I landed and I realized my radios were still in Statesville. Brett did that was Brett's whole spotter bag. I couldn't help it though. I flew with Clint Boyer to Lake of the Ozarks and nobody said a word to me. So about the plane leaving. So I flew with him. I left my spotter bag on the airplane where it would be safe, safer than taking it to Clint's lake house. I leave it on

airplane. And the day before we're leaving, Clint goes, we got a plane coming to pick us up tomorrow at 8 o'clock. And I said, what do you mean? A plane's coming to pick us up? Well, my plane's in the shop at Wichita. And I'm like, well, my spotter bag is in Wichita. So, yeah, I didn't have a spotter bag. I showed up in Michigan in a full-bon panic, running around like an idiot, trying to find radios and headsets. No hard card. Thank God for John Lebeck. No hard card. My hard card's also in my spotter bag. Why wouldn't it be? Thanks. Clint lawyer. Oh my gosh. You know, Clint, he's like, yeah, that'd be fine. It's cool. No. It's actually actually not. It's just like you get into the racetrack and not having a race car. Same thing. Moving on to

DVC picks. Lugano. For Talladega. Lugano? I don't think I picked him. How? Too late. Probably not yet. Yeah, I don't think you're up. It's down to me and Freddie and everybody I pick sucks. How do you pick Kyle Larson and he run

like? I'll take Kislauski. sorry T.J. I'll take Blaney. I'll take Cindrick. What a coincidence. Weird. So. They're going to line up behind him this week.

Besides a Ford winner, what are we thinking for Tal'Daga? What can we expect? Like I said, unknown. Unknown about what the car's going to drive like. If they had this fin or whatever, it's going to be on. I don't mean anything negative by saying this, but I feel like when I started in this sport, that car and driver and spotter, like it was a formula to go out and win. And I feel like now it's just damn near luck at this place.

At these places? Yeah. It's a lot of luck. It's a lot of, unfortunately, fuel strategy. You know, if you can figure out how to spend two less seconds on pit road than the guys in front of you, you're going to beat them. And, and, you know, that's, that's, that's, I hate it. I hate it. So you're, I mean, you're right that it takes, there's less managing the race like we used to. If you could get out front, there's less doing that. But there, there is a strategy part of it.

Like, we knew, we knew where we wanted to be running on the white flag and the first race there. And I thought we were in the best position we needed to be in the win the race. And obviously, you got McDowell throwing the huge blocks but I feel like we were in the spot to win the race if them huge blocks don't happen like that which I don't think I don't know if they'll happen like that again I don't think a guy in the playoffs will make a move like that

and you're not if you win the race you're not locked in anything like that for if you're outside of it but I don't think a guy I'll risk doing that you don't think McDowell would do it again no I don't think he'll do that again. I don't. I don't. Not that big anyway. He'll block, but I don't think you're going to have the, you know, double or triple walks like that was going on right there. I don't think you will. I think there's. I think you're crazy. I don't think you're crazy. I don't think you're crazy. I mean, obviously there's two guys from certain cases, but there's going to be guys. It's a cup win. It's a cup win. You just talked about how hard it is to win a cup race. Even if you've got a hundred of them, you know, you don't think Kyle Bush, if he's leading, he's going to be throwing 100 blocks trying to get to 20 years in a row. I think you throw a hard block, but I don't think you throw the double or the triple. I think you throw 100 of them.

Whatever it's going to take. I'm going to help my guy throws me as it takes. Yeah. I don't care. That whole double block thing, that's gone. Like that whole strategy. Like, I mean, it's just a lot different now. It's, yeah.

I feel like we don't race, though, until five ago. Here's the problem. Here's my problem. And this is in a nutshell. And TJ, you know, you were involved with this. I think we had crashed out last Haldegger race. When I saw, that's right, we wrecked with the damn, with the whole Toyota group. So, uh,

I look at the lineup on that restart, and it's Laura, I forget who was leading. Was it McDowell? McDowell and Redick. And I said they are going to, it's the races between them, essentially, because they are going to be the top two for the rest of this race. You know, there's no more pit stops. There's no more saving fuel. They're not going to move.

Whoever comes out here, like whatever this, that's where they're locked in. And then McDowell or whoever gets the better push, T.J. is going to plan it out at the end to try to push McDowell clear so then Brad can make moves, whatever it is. But you knew those two were going to be the, the guys that led these lines until the end of the race. And that used to never be the cat. I would stay and watch the races because it'd be coming and going and guys would get runs. I left knowing, okay, there was probably, I mean, 30, 40 to go probably.

And you knew that those guys were going to be the front row, the rest of the race, until we got to the very end and some, you know, some stuff happened. The worst part about it is nobody wants to leave to get you to that point because they don't want to burn the most fuel. Yeah. I remember, I think it was Suarez that drove to the front. When this whole fuel thing started and it's like Matt Sores just drove

to the front. I'm like, they let him. They don't want to lead. Yeah, nobody wants to lead. Yeah, it's just, I mean, it's there's I mean, you can't say there's no strategy. There's a lot of strategy to how much fuel you're saving tons of strategy. If you're a real race fan and the strategy and stuff, this is, you'll love it. But it's just, I. If you love saving fuel, you'll love it too.

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