Door Bumper Clear - 350 | Talladega: Who Caused the Biggest Wreck in NASCAR History?

Episode Date: October 7, 2024

TJ Majors, Brett Griffin, and Freddie Kraft are back from Talladega to recap the first NASCAR Cup Series Playoffs race at the legendary superspeedway, with Andrew Kurland filling in as host. Ricky Stenhouse Jr. becomes the third different driver this post-season to play Playoff spoiler, how much chaos do surprise winners throw into the Playoff picture? Plus, NASCAR’s decision to tow cars back to pit road certainly raised some eyebrows and made drivers sound off, when can we expect clarity on the DVP rule? And what really happened at the front of the pack between Austin Cindric and Brad Keselowski that led to the biggest wreck in NASCAR history? TJ shares his side of the story and who’s really to blame.  Want more DBC? Check out and subscribe to the new DBC YouTube channel! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

The following is a production of Dirtymoe media. No good. By one. Don't ever drive, man. It'll come to you. You're a fucking idiot if you think that's right. Like that just because T.J. planned it that way. Ball three, one of the eight out back.

You come in top here. You come and keep up. Bottom three. Bottom three, why? It's hard to get lost. I mean, seriously. Might be the dumbest thing you've ever said. Door.

Pupper. Clear. So there. Popper. Pumper. Clear. Clear. Hey everybody, I'm T.J. Major's Spotter the Six Cup car this week. We also ran the 88

Xfini car with Carson Quaple and the 42 truck with Matt Mills. Full weekend of tearing up race cars for me. Full week. I got it all out of the way. Greg Griffin Sputter for AJ Amadinger yesterday. It was fun until it wasn't. It was fun. Did you have fun? I got to throw it's a Freddie Crabbter for Bubba Wallace, Kyle Sieg, and Dawson Sutton this week before we get to the race. I have to say, I don't know what childbirth does to you,

but Casey is way less attractive now than she was. The little one she had before she had the baby, I don't know. hormones apparently changed, too. I mean, something happened. Casey, what?

Give us your best, hey guys. Hey guys. What is, hey, what is it? Hey, what is happening to you? Freddie. So, Casey boat.

Casey boat. So, so. Looking good, Andrew. Thank you. Andrew. Last minute filling.

Andrew Curlin, I got the call about 20 minutes ago. So I'm fully ready for this. I'm sorry that I put in the group chat that I have a cough because obviously that scared her off. Yeah, possibly. Anyway. Usually it scares TJ off. Usually. I'm a little bit away than normal.

Wait a minute. Did you do that on purpose for it? Were you trying to get them both out of here? Well, that's a strategy for the future. Next time I will give a, I'll give an hour and a half notice. just don't say anything. TJ's didn't look at the group of me this morning or else he wouldn't have been here either. One of the things I got a kick out of yesterday was, you know, we'll talk about how the race plays out.

But there's one point yesterday when I look up there and Brits blocking every lane and getting run. I saw that. And I look and he's the only one running 100% throttle. I was having fun. They were up there running their ass off and I'm like, oh man, they're having a blast. And we're just back here 60% throttle just cruising around. I saw it. You look like Michael McDow covered to the checker, dude.

And you're like, and nobody's. even trying. You're out there like, that's why I had fun. It's fun. At least it's fun. I mean, it was fun,

but then unfortunately. And that car was bright too, so it stood out. It would go from the top to the bottom. It was nice to have a car that didn't look like every other car out there. That was a pretty color of teal, I guess it was.

Yeah. I was a strive car. And I tried to get a strived racing hat to wear today because they actually look really cool. And apparently I'm not out of enough on the pick in order for the strived racing hat. You got to sit on the plane a little bit long So I'm rocking the spot off for cancer half for October this couple of times.

They had to spend it on fuel in your hat. Oh, that just brought me to a point. My baseball coach is probably going to win. What an idiot. Again? Oh, last time it was somebody else's coach. Well, we had some high, we had some really good candidates this weekend for what an idiot. We did.

He must be really an idiot. I mean, TJ. Hey. You lost by six one thousandths of a second. Was that the gap? That's still the third closest finish this year, though. Yeah. Um, do you like, so the only question I really have for you. And I'm not and on this is not. I mean, I like to pick on you a lot. But like what's the thought process? I know you're coming to checker. You get clear that top lane. Is there any thought of going up there and taking that lane away? Uh, yes and no. Yes. Um, I was kind of hinting to Brad to come up a little bit. But if you fade up, Ricky's not going to push you. Ricky's going to take his help. You got him the 24 lined up. They're just going to go to the outside of you. And then you, you,

better hope you get back to the bottom fast enough to cover it so you get the push. And what push? Well, funny you say that. That's a loud laugh. I apologize. Yeah, funny you say that. Yeah, if you think we were planning on just racing back to the line, but apparently others weren't.

Who wasn't? Apparently, apparently our help. Who is your help? I don't know, blue car behind us. Is that going to be a spot-on, spot-off? No, it's not a spot-ons, we can talk about it now. The opposite of ours. Did it have an emblem on the hood?

Let's, I'm going to give you an opportunity. A lot of squares in it. I'm going to give you an opportunity to not be a . . . That's what I'm going to do. No, it's a fucking simple question. Did Kyle Larson lift before the start finish? Absolutely. Absolutely lift before the start finish.

I give T.J. props. Did they? Was he told to do it? You got to get T.J. Prop. Yeah, yeah. I'm proud of them. Absolutely. I mean, this is already posted on the internet.

He was absolutely told not to help us. So, and he didn't. Yes, that's absolutely true. But is that, I mean, is that a witness and the jury of a great. Is that or all? I mean, is there. Guilty. Like, that's, you know, you got to think that.

I don't know, if you think that far ahead, but that's got to come into play. You know, like I'm racing side by side with a Chevy and there's a Chevy behind me. You know, do I have to do something different here because this guy's not to push me because already we saw all the backlash come out of Daytona. Well, there was three of them. I mean, no matter what lane. Yeah, yeah, no. I'm just saying, but like that's just, you know, then you just try to be more aggressive like blocking wise. You know what I mean? I would think. But to me, you're just getting to me when they're lined up like that. I've been in this situation before when those and we were was leading a race at Talladega with Joey and we had like five of them

lined up behind us. And we got the first one, but then the second one gets by. It was one Chase Elliott won that race. We got Kurt. We, we stopped his run but by the time you get on stopping his run here come the rest of them so i really feel like if we fade up too far kyle's just going to drive by on the bottom well if you didn't wreck all the fords on the caution before you might have had more yeah apparently apparently that's another thing too there's a lot of i mean when you drove through the back of the two what is your favorite term for all them people on on the internet that think they know everything and and before they even see the facts and look at what really happened a replay they are already

on there tweeting. What do you call that? Darfs. Okay. So there's a handful of those. I'm sure Jay's picked some fine ones from reaction theater because Jay Absolutely has nothing better and is doing his nighttime and then pick those out. What is he supposed to do? You want to pick something? He's bonding with the Darfs. Yeah. Those are the best

one. That's actually a good. You're bonding with them, huh Jay? Yeah. No, we go back and forth now. The text line actually gets a fair number of texts every week and so I go back and forth with those people and it can be. You should just frame that up. I didn't know we had a text line. You can either call into the number. You can text the number.

People text in pictures, songs. So you're a Darth Bonder. Wait a minute. What kind of pictures? All sorts of pictures. G-rated. What the hell you got going on over there? What's going on over there?

We'll meet the Darts of Mills after the show. The Darf Bonder, Jay. But yeah, that was, I don't know. I thought we did everything we could do coming to this art finish line, you know, pushing. We actually got ourselves. us clear. Brad's really good at timing things like that and getting clear and it just didn't, I mean, did materialize behind us like we thought it would or should and that's it. I think that I think,

you know, you can make the argument maybe of that 100% rule, but I think Larson did everything he should have done. He pushed you all the way down to backstretch, trying to get you clear, hoping that you would go up there and open that bottom up for him to have an opportunity to win the race. Once you don't move up there is now it's kind of his job. He's already pretty much, I don't know if he clinched his spot, but he's got to be in really good points position. Third to fourth really doesn't make a difference to him because that's where he's going to. But does the winner really matter to him at that point? Because neither one of us are in the playoffs.

Ricky. Yeah. It matters to him at 9 o'clock. They told him to help a shit really win. Yeah. I know, you know, we've. And maybe you're probably more like this as well. When you go back to the old school days, like when those guys were racing, it was just, you didn't know who you were going to match up with at the end.

And sometimes like your partner was your partner and you would. Yeah. And that was it. Like we've been, I've lost the race there with Dell Jr. on a restart when Kevin Harvey steering broke and, uh, got into Trevor Bain. Oh. Oh.

We were leading. We were leading that race. Yeah. We were leading that race. And, uh, Jeff Gordon, I think was pushing Joey in the outside lane and pushed him. He had like three feet on us.

And he was in front of the time of the caution. so he got the lead in the wind from it. But like, I don't know, to me, we never really, if it worked out like that, but you were just trying to get as far forward as you can. Like, you were trying to get, if we move up, you know, I thought maybe when you get to the line, we slide up a little bit and Larson goes inside of us, you know, like they always do. They always split at the line, kind of. But, I mean, there wasn't even an attempt at that.

It was just, I'm just going to get on out of here. You got to think that after Daytona, there was a much heavier emphasis put on. Do not push, you know, rival manufacturer to the wind. because you saw what came out of that. You know, that was, that's, that was, that was a news for a week of Retzloff pushing the 21 by the 8. So I'm sure that whatever that meeting they had Monday morning because I, as the Toyota group left their meeting, the Chevy guys were going in. So I know they had one. Yeah, they were probably going to take away at some time.

They might. They were going to probably. I'm sure he made. I'm sure he made a lot of friends in that company on yesterday afternoon. So. Yeah. I mean, I just missed there. I mean, 15 years ago, we didn't really ever.

You were, you were lined up who you lined up with and you just raced it out. I mean, I decided when I got on the plane, I'm not a fan of Talladega being in the playoffs. There's too many antics. There's too many games. The five's not going to push you. We're going to ride around same fuel. There were just some things that I saw go on throughout the race. I'm like, the integrity of drafting as I grew up watching it and spotting it is forever.

Yeah. And I hope there's a way to un-b-it it. But I don't know if there is. Not with this car. I don't know. It's in spot on, spot off too, because there was a lot of guys

that made comments about it. But the, you know, yes. But it should it be a, but it should be a playoff race? I said it. I mean,

I don't have a problem with it being a playoff race because it's still, there's, you know, why not? There's, we got wild cards all the way throughout the playoffs. You might as well add another one. So,

you know, that's just where you're at right now. But yeah, I don't, I definitely don't love it next year when it's in the last round. Now you're, that race yesterday is deciding. deciding one of your final four guys

like that I don't love at all. Can't wait for this to happen in that race. It's going to be great. Yeah. So you cause the wreck and missed a block on the 47. We can go on to the rest of the show. Yeah. Something like that.

Yeah. So like, you know, there's a whole, oh, all right, darn it. Homer. After Daytona, there was a bigger emphasis, you said on not pushing manufacturers, pushing certain ones. Like Tyler Mon said,

I think don't push him to the win. Is there going to be any repercussions for a spotter saying something like that? That was the beginning of him. Get off of him. Get off of him. Get off of them. Right. I don't you shouldn't say it on the radio, I would say. You should have some kind of code or, you know, whatever you want to call it to know, or at least Kyle should. Kyle probably knew without being told, I would assume. The last time this was something was said on radio about not helping or getting out of the way or not push somebody. There was. Yeah, that was the double. Zero you're talking about? Yeah, that was the Roval last year.

And that was a heavy fine, heavy points fine. Bro. But that's not going to happen. Yeah. I don't think. No. I'm just saying, you should, like, if you can avoid it, don't say that on the radio. Yeah.

I mean, that's that stuff that. I actually give Tyler Mon props because Kyle is in there, helmet on heat of the moment. Racing. Thinking I can win up until 50 yards from the start, finish line. This is Talladega. No. You're more like five feet. And then he hears a voice say, don't push him to the wind.

And it's like, I got this. And then you lift. Are they whisper? You lift and then Chevrolet wins. But I mean, does Kyle Larson think about that in that moment running 190 miles an hour? I don't know. I don't know.

No, dude, like coming through three and four, Larson was absolutely like 110%. And if the door opens up for him to slip us on one side, he's going to take it. Tyler, Tyler was given instructions at 9 o'clock on Sunday morning by somebody. Probably Jim Campbell, if I had to guess. Wasn't like 90A and 904. And he did his job. So you're going to penalize a guy for doing a task that he was asked to task.

We watched those old miss players flop on the football field all night the other night in Columbia when we get a first town because the coach told them to flop. Well, if you don't call a penalty, it ain't a penalty. That guy was hurt. I think Tyler Mon gets props. Should he have said it already? I don't know. If he don't get fined, it was fine.

Yeah, I just, I don't know. You got to do what you got to do to at least either not say it or. What are you going to say? You could say code blue. And then he's got to think, well, hell on the code blue. Mountain Dew. Was it blue to wreck the guy beside of me or was that red? Well, then you have to know, but you know that's, yeah.

That's what she, I mean, I again, I don't think anything's going to come out of it. but ship your pants, Brett, ship your pants. Man, when we're so worried about what's being said over the radio from the spotter to a driver, we got big, well, I'm tell you. I wonder where that started. I mean, if it changes the outcome of a race, does it not matter? Death penalty to the whole sport. I got a spotter told a driver, don't push him.

Let's just cancel the sport. Yeah. Wreck him. 2013 or whatever year that was. Turn to tables. His face is getting red. I'm clear. He didn't do anything.

On the better news, big win for Sammy Smith. I mean, he goes from, I think, last in the coming into that race, he was last in that, in that playoff and now he's locked in.

So that's a really big deal for him. It's weird. What happens is when you stay in the throttle. Well, I've seen one guy staying at throttle. I think he was behind you. Oh, yeah. that guy saved the throttle big time.

See, you can't have it both ways, T.J. You got you were on Saturday because the guy behind you didn't lift. Now you're on Sunday because the guy didn't lift. I don't blame him on Saturday. I don't blame Brandon Jones. He was just trying to put, I mean, he's just doing everything you can. It's the end of the race. Same thing as the cup race.

These guys are all, the 38 got everything out of sync a little bit being on the bottom and the runs weren't lining up exactly how they were previous handful of laps. So these guys are off. They're off a little bit. And the fourth, third, fourth guy on. line. I don't know. It's the end of the race, too. That guy wants to advance. Well, they're trying to win. They're still trying to win. But, you know, they, uh, they want to advance your position. The only way to advance your position is move your lane forward. Right. And if we get

up forward and the second guy behind us gets clear and goes to the top, that moves them up a lane. Or we move up and they, the bottom, I mean, it's just, you know, they're trying to do everything they can. And I just thought, I thought Brandon was probably a little more on the aggressive side. because he had you jacked up kind of yeah for a little while you know it wasn't it wasn't like one shove and it knocked you like it was like sway through the trial over and you see you're out of shape and he's just keep going and it I mean listen like you said it's not like he's doing anything egregiously wrong now it's just a little too aggressive for me with cars and carson and carson did a great job for his first plate race ever I mean our our goal all day was just kind of kind of be there and

just be in the pack and learn as much as he can and you know obviously if you you want to get with the JRM group and ride with them and you don't the whole teammate thing is you're supposed to you want to be there to help but you don't want to sacrifice yourself you're not you know you don't want to sacrifice your race for a bad decision on somebody else but you want to be there to help like we had us lined up a handful of times we had three or four of us lined up and the three jrm cars went to the bottom the three jrm cars went to the bottom in front of us and we were kind of stuck in the middle but uh we just rode it out and ended up back in the front because then lanes all yeah kind of cycle it's like it's almost like plate racing yeah yeah it's like cycles like that. So, yeah, I mean, but them ones actually move because they're going after it. stuff happening. Yeah, there's, there's stuff going on. That's the downside of, you know, racing with your teammates,

trying to get your teammates help because I think that wreck wiped out at least three J.R.M. card. It was you, the nine, the seven gotten out one, I think. Yeah, it did. So,

you know, that's the, we're really good at doing that. We can do it at Bristol. Well, it's just, you know, if you're all racing together and that hard,

like that's what's going to happen. You know, when you, it works out great. So one of his wreck. And then one of your wreck, usually collects a couple of you, at least,

which by the way, great start to the round for him here. Now he's gone from probably championship favorites. You've got to be out now, right? I mean, I would assume minus seven. Minus seven. Yeah. But he's the robo.

Man, he's minus seven with SVG behind him and points going into the row. That's not a very comfortable. He's minus seven with A.J. Amundinger in front of him going into the road. And you got to think minus seven is to the cut line. That cut line could move. Well, whoever's, you know, where's, what's the in front of that? Riley Herps.

Riley Herps is plus 20. So, I mean, that plus seven might not even matter, honestly. Yeah. If SBG wins. It's a role, though. You got to think Roeville Xfinity, all those guys go for points stage one. Yeah. So because you never know what could happen, right?

If Riley Herps were to have a mechanical issue in stage one, spin out, something. Spin out with five to go. Whatever, man. Like, there's an opportunity to gain a lot of points if you get stage points. Justin's not out of it by any means. He's right there. He's not out of it, but he's going to have to have a great strategy. So what are they have left?

The roval. That's it. And then it turns into the next round. So, yeah, I mean, but, you know, JRMs had fast cars at road courses. So Justin, and Justin, I mean, he knows what he's doing. I think Justin can go there and still transfer if he goes and has a solid race. He has the most pressure of anybody in this race.

Oh, thousand percent. I've seen Justin race, you know, under pressure before, though. I know you're on JRM payroll, T.J. How many costs is that? God, my. He's at four. No, we're at more. No, we're higher than that.

We're like, my second one was a fake making, in front of him in front of him. It still counts. It still counts. The best part is. He started the show by saying it's way better now. It is, but I think Brett jinxed it.

Just keep cough and we'll get that cough button. You may breathe on you with this cough drop I got. Be quiet. What do you call? The, what do we call? It's called the Dharf. The Darf.

Oh, you forgot your nickname already. Darf bonding. Yeah, whatever. Where do we leave off and BS? No, I don't know. I don't talk about the lawsuit now. Oh, yeah.

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. The lawsuit. Three. Oh, my God. Oh, it's terrible. I got to leave. Do I add to Freddie?

I'm sick. So I, let me tell you, I do have an opinion this week. I hope we run great these next five races. So is Jim France. Here's what I'll say about the lawsuit. And Andrew, if you've got any questions, I'll be happy to answer them. Sure. Perfect.

I was not surprised the lawsuit came because we were hearing for two weeks that it was coming. I was surprised that Jim Frank. was named in the lawsuit because that opens up, you know, him potentially, personally, to having to be deposed and divulge a lot of information about his personal life. I think that there's a misconception in the media that was put there by some of the media members that a lot of the owners in the garage were, quote, fine with this deal. Why would these two organizations not be? and I don't think there were a lot of organizations that were, quote, fine with this deal.

I think they felt pressure to sign, and I think they're glad that these other two organizations are bringing this to a legal matter. And with that said, this is a legal matter. They're being accused of doing something illegally, which is running a monopoly. And that will be for the course of side. It'll take forever. They're talking about, I heard the Kessler attorney say, we hope to have this thing, you know, tried and heard in a year or two. Well, good luck with that. How many years of history?

What does NASCAR, an 85-year-old company at this point? No, 77-year-old company, if I were guessing. Like, good luck with that. And I also had one other comment that I heard in the media that because 2311 hadn't been around here long, like, why were they the ones that should be able to come in here and kind of rock the boat and start that? It doesn't matter how long you've been around. Four years or 400, you know, if you come in and you're invested and you think something is illegal, I think you have a right to raise your hand and say, hey, I don't like this.

So I have a lot of opinions on a lot of different things as far as where, how, or why, or what might go. But I don't think you should be surprised there's a lawsuit. I also don't think you should pick sides right now because no information is out there. There's only an allegation, and we don't think we did anything wrong. Here's one thing I will finish saying before I see if you got anything you want to ask. If they don't let these teams keep racing under the charter agreement and they lose, then they're going to have to pay damages. Those damages could be massive.

So I do think, obviously, NASCAR is going to want this dismissed. If it doesn't get dismissed, the teams are going to want to keep operating under the charter agreement until this is resolved. I think you have to give them that. Now, there's an injunction that is coming, right? That's what 2311 and front row are hoping for, and that would give them almost like a temporary charter.

Am I understanding that correctly? My understanding would be that NASCAR goes to a judge and asks the judge to dismiss his case altogether. And if he dismisses it, and guess what? It's over. If he doesn't dismiss it, then I think what you're saying would be what happens. I thought one of the more interesting,

you know, of course they asked everybody about this this weekend, and obviously I'm not going to go into details about anything 2311 related. But Kyle Arson had one of the more interesting comments I thought of the weekend and credit to him for speaking up about the driver salaries. He said, we're the only sport in the world right now that the athlete salaries are going down. They're going in the wrong direction.

So I thought that was a big comment from him to say. And he's right, I think. But yeah, it'll be interesting to see what goes on. Of course, it's never a dull moment. What is what do they hope 2311 and, you know, front row, what do they hope to get out of this? Is it making it more of like a franchise? You know, like that was one of the big, it was a permanent charter stake.

Like, is that their end goal here? I think there's a lot more end goals than just that, but that would certainly be one of the things that they want. I mean, I also don't think they want to give up, you know, and Michael Jordan's case, the 2311 Michael Jordan affiliate brand to be able to do whatever they want to do with it. You know, like in and it not be a chartered system of RHA.

franchise system. So, I mean, listen, man, there's a lot of things. The profit sharing, I mean, everything across the board. I mean, but when you look at what is being, what is being said, NASCAR owns a sanctioning body. NASCAR owns the racetracks. NASCAR owns the vendors and or tells you what vendors to buy your parts and pieces from to build your cars. NASCAR asked for the right to field four cars in their own series. and then there obviously are various other things that are that are out there too so i mean that's

where the antitrust monopoly and all that that stuff's coming from you know and i mean even looking back at some of the things that i saw in the news and maybe you guys can speak to this since it's not lawsuit specific related like the integrity of the sport NASCAR owns the officials the officials work for NASCAR and so people in the media said that teams that were in this lawsuit with NASCAR could potentially face more rigorous technical processes pre and post race. I don't believe that's true. Teams in the race, I mean, they're all tech by these NASCAR employees. There's a very rigorous process that they go through and it's very technology driven these days. You know, this isn't 1950 anymore where you look at something to go, I don't like the way that looks.

fix it. Everything is now is measured by lasers and and I thought it was kind of a cheap shot for people to say to NASCAR officials who work more hours than any of us that there could be some shady stuff going on in there. But then I also thought but if that's the case, if we truly believe as a sport, our fan base, our sponsors, our teams believe that that could happen. Should NASCAR farm out its technical process and the officiating from the booth to a high-end, integrity third party that could oversee that process to remove that conspiracy theory from even existing. I'm not saying that's going to ever be a thing, but like just so many things start snowballing

from these conversations and these articles. And at the end of the day, I don't have a dog in the fight. I hope it's whatever's best for the sport. And it's the largest, I mean, it's the most famous athlete in American history taking on one of the largest juggernauts in professional. sports. I hope we run good in the next five races. I just hate us the story right now. Denny's great. I do hate it's the story, but Michael Jordan handled it very professionally yesterday when he was asked about it with the Bob Pockris interaction. Obviously, Jim France,

when he was asked about it, made a comment just like Freddie just made, that he hopes a great playoff championship. I mean, you're taking a team that certainly has a billionaire as an owner of Michael Jordan. But the France family, I would bet if Michael Jordan's worth $3 billion, I bet they're worth $40. All right. Well, coming up right after this, we're going to get into some spot on, spot off. Spot on, spot off. Spot off. Spot off. It was super fun yesterday to ride around there. I am spot off. Damn. Where did he come from? First topic. Reversing course last week, NASCAR elected to tow multiple cars back to pit road after the big one, instead of treating them the same way Josh Berry was at Kansas.

Spot on, spot off. Let's go to Freddie. Aye. Yay. Yay. Yay. Yeah. Yeah.

Spot off, obviously. Listen, I don't know. You can't come out last week. And like they came out last week. And I think that they knew they screwed up. last week. I think that they probably reached out to Josh and Rodney and said they probably screwed up last week. But they called it by the letter of the law. And I believe they made a comment like, we're going to look at this in the off season and maybe adjust it. Well,

that was a very short off season because it was about six days maybe before we completely did a 180 on the policy because they came out and said if the car is involved in the crash, if the car spins and has flats with no contact, he's going to get towed back and be able to change. But if he has contact and is involved with the crash, he's out of the race essentially. He's getting towed back to the garage. Well, here comes the nine and the 14 on the tow truck wrecked. I mean, the nine hit the wall. He hit on the cars.

The 14 was back in that mix. Some were doing the same. Those two cars are clearly wrecked and getting towed back to their stall and were able to continue in the race. So I don't, the end of the day, the fundamental problem is the car because it's not so much the policy for me. It's the car because if the car could move one, you have flat tires, we wouldn't have this problem. There wouldn't be 25 cars sitting on the apron over there stuck because they're all beached on the ground because they got flat tires. So the main concern we should be focusing on instead of changing the policy is trying to figure out how to get these cars off the ground so what they can still move and we don't have this problem.

you know, it was just to see that happen, and I'll let these guys go because I can go on forever about this, but to see that nine and the 14 coming down pit road, wrecked with a lot. I shouldn't say wrecked because they continued on, but they had a ton of damage and they were able to continue on when the guy with four flats last week was out of the race was ridiculous. Yeah, I'm kind of in the same boat. They towed a lot of wrecked race cars to pit road. Did they? They didn't tow mine.

Shouldn't erect as hard. you shouldn't have started the wreck I didn't you hit the two two wrecked I got hit first what's there what now

you didn't wreck you almost won the race guy who starts it never gets in the wreck that's not really that's usually sometimes your history doesn't speak well

for causing wrecks well my history I ain't gonna I'm wasting my time TJ you're spot off yeah you can't do a 180 So you can't go back on it

And I think I do think Josh and him You know and I think it will get fixed I think they'll you know we got to find something yesterday As you said it just fixed it Wow I think it there's even more ways like Freddie was saying Maybe we can do stuff to the cars still Or find ways to get them up where they can drive back I heard how much how much you just realize this DVP clock isn't good for these cars

I also heard Joey say maybe maybe they can find an interliner for the tire. I don't know if that's possible. We said that last week. But I'm just saying there's maybe there's avenues we can explore more in depth. And I'm sure they already had. I'm sure they're looking at it. Held it in.

It's a company. That was a pump fake to a cough. Good Lord. I assume you're spot on for all this. I am spot off for the fact that after you up last week, you didn't come out this week and tell us what you're going to do to fix it. it. Instead, we just sat there and watched you toe two playoff cars back, one of which is the golden child to the number nine and open up a whole other can of worms around here. So, I mean,

if you're a fan, this is literally like WW 200 miles an hour. It's just nonstop rule changes. And that's okay because we know how quick we love to make a rule, but at least come out and publicly say what transpired following last week for you to get to the point to make it better for this week. You made it for better for this week. You did it right this week. But, we're all going what changed why the nine like we're we're controlling the narrative because unfortunately it wasn't controlled on Thursday afternoon and I say that because on Friday I don't even know there was a race at the racetrack um that's another that's because you don't like truck racing I love truck racing you should spot it no I don't love it much the you know one of my

biggest problems I kind of brought up last week is you know they they were talking about which the next topic is going to be even more ridiculous but you know why are we doing this? and they were, they're trying to figure that the spotter official was like, oh, they're trying to figure out who was actually involved in the wreck and who wasn't. And I said, there's 40 cars back there involved in the wreck. Everybody is, but one of my things is like if this is going to be the process moving forward, I don't think you should have guys in the booth trying to determine if a race car on the backstretch, especially at Talladega or Kansas last week, is damaged.

You know what I mean? There should be somebody in that tow truck or in the chase vehicle that is, you know, well-versed in the engineering or the mechanics of the car. Sounds like a great job for David Green. Yeah, perfect guy for that. You know what I mean? He's been a driver. He's been in the safety in the garage.

He's held numerous positions within corporate NASCAR inside of that garage. Put him in a chase vehicle. Yeah, and he can go out there and go, all right, this car, the four car has four flat tires. He doesn't have a bit of damage. Tone back. He doesn't have been in the wreck. He's got damage. He's out.

But now they're trying to do it from the booth. You know, what's Taldaegga? Half mile away. So what do you do with like, what do you do with like Blaney? The booth. Hell, they can't even see the front of a booth. That's what I'm saying. I couldn't see the car.

Yeah. We were higher than they were and I couldn't see the car. What do you do with like a Blaney at the Glen though? You know what I mean? Where you can't really visibly see anything. Well, that's what they, that's where you got. David Green goes out there and he can see the steering's broken. If the car's damaged until they got out of the hood.

I mean, the wheel, you know, I mean, if you look at it. I mean, if you look at it. I don't think. I don't think Blaney's a hood. Yeah. I mean, if you pick the David Griggins, he's capable of that and going on. One thing that I saw yesterday is the first car that I saw them hook up was the 41.

And he was out of his car. Yeah, why are you hooking the guys up to the house? Yes, I mean, get the guys that have flat tires first. You know, and not to, but you go back to that deal about, you know, guys making calls from the booth. There's another can of worms that happened yesterday with this 47 car that didn't get talked about a lot with his door foam was missing. You know, and the two hits him in the door. There's a gaping hole in the door, and there's door foam is missing.

You can see it very clear into some of the pictures. And I believe the rule is that's the safety. You're supposed to come down and replace the door foam. Or if you can't put door foam in, then you're out of the race. Yeah, we should take him out now. And then I know Elton in his post-race comment said that they didn't even, he was asked about it. And he said that we didn't even notice.

So now you're the leader of the race has got a safety issue with his car. And that goes unnoticed. You know, so it's just, I don't know. We did such a good job that we got that. We wanted to hit him in the door. Yeah, I mean, we needed to get him out of there. So we got his foam. Yeah.

And I don't know what the wording is. I don't think I don't think I don't think. I don't think anybody's going to voluntarily pit in that situation. But here's my issue. And then I know the segues into the next topic. We got caught up in the big wreck. We got run over from behind. AJ thought maybe it was a 31.

I don't know how that could have happened because he was on his break so fast. But if he hit you and that guy or the other guy. He hit me in the back And then he also went on to hit the leader Yeah, yeah Yeah But anyway Here's my issue

We're in the wreck Our car is It does have some damage But our biggest problem is We have flat tires We needed to be pushed out of the grass They went under red For however many minutes

Then they went under yellow For however many minutes The pace car passed us twice Before we finally Got pushed out of the grass I went down there to Saka and I said, I need a push out of the grass.

As soon as the wreck it ended and all the people that calmed down up there, you know, because we get, we get fired up. He said, they're going to give you one push. And if you can steer it, you get to drive it back. That happened about 27 minutes later. So why do I lose two laps with a car that would have finished on the lead lap? When other cars got brought back, I want equal opportunity to finish my race as just as much as the people who got pushed out and towed back well before me.

So once you go red, and that's last. I'm going to say once you go red, give everybody a chance to come home, whether that's come home to the garage or come home to their pit stop. Yeah. And then go back yellow. Yeah. And everyone should be to the same. And the same still goes back to the car. You know, that you should. You get pulled out of the grass and you're still stuck there because of your flat tires. You know, you should three laps at Talladega under caution is forever. You know. So, you know, but yeah, we'll, Andrew, move on to the next one because it leads right into. Yes. And by the way. I think that was the biggest wreck in history, 28 cars, I think officially deemed involved. Congratulations, TJ, for starting that. Next topic, NASCAR chose to go back to yellow flag conditions, but did not put the field in motion. Several teams expressed confusion and frustration with how everything was handled, with Lugano calling it, quote, a disaster. And Briscoe saying, I have never seen a more disorganized deal in my life.

Spot on, spot off. T.J. I was I didn't know what was going on. We're already, we're close on fuel. It's never happened before. We're close on fuel and they're like, all right, just, you know, display of the yellow. And I'm like, all right, we're getting ready to roll here. But we're not rolling in.

We're close on fuel. Like, we have enough for one green white checker and no more. So we don't want to burn any extra fuel. And it was a while. Like, I don't know how many minutes. It was minutes. It wasn't seconds. You know, it was minutes for sure.

But I've never sat there. not moving under yellow when you the yellow comes out when the pace car moves in my opinion that's always like every red flag we've ever been under all right you know display of the yellow the pace car takes off everybody goes to work at the same time this was uh i don't even know like it was just weird to see all right we're going to go to yellow you guys go start working kind of like it's kind of like we're giving you a head start to not get lapped i mean kind of and not only not at lap like if that happens at Bristol you know how fast that pace car if if the pace car leaves and he's a minute and a half from pit road you get a minute and a half head start from the time the yellow starts

so now you take the fact that they don't roll the cars off for several more minutes what if you're in your explanation given i'm assuming they so the explanation given which i don't want to say is BS but so the explanation given was they went yellow and then realized that they couldn't roll the pace car because of the conditions in turn three. Oh, you mean the 30 cars that were sitting there that you still need to bring back? So then they decided that they can't go back red because of the cadence of going back yellow. But the problem that I have with that is when we were told we were going back yellow, they said, Pace card do not move.

It wasn't like we went yellow and then he realized, oh, wait a minute, we can't go yellow. don't move. It was all in one motion. It was, we're going back on the yellow and and the pace cars sit still. And then we towed cars back. Guys got to start working on their cars that were already on pit road. Namely the 45 and 48 were the two main ones that I noticed that were down there, which helped them benefit a lot by staying on lead lap and gaining points. At least they were in their stall.

What would have that opportunity. But it's just, I don't understand. Like all you did was benefit. And this has never happened before that I can remember. I've never ever, ever, ever. And the only thing that makes any sense to me, and I don't know if this is why they did it or not, but we have seen numerous times guys get parked for,

you know, you got a little bit of damage. You're trying to get to your pit box. They throw the red right before you get there right before you get to pit road. Some guys, I know this happened to Reddick recently. I can't remember where it was.

He drives to his pit stall under red and they park him because he drove to his pit stall. And really what you're doing is they're not going to work on it, but you want at least get there so they can look at it and see what they got to do. Now all of a sudden, we're under red and you're towing guys to their pit stall. You know, so is that why they put the yellow out so that they don't have to just, just now you're going to disqualify guys because you're doing what you've already disqualified other people for. You know, you're, you're, you're towing guys back to their stall that you know we're going to continue on in the race. I don't have a problem with you towing guys that are out.

You know, obviously they're out. You're going to the garage. But if you're towing guys under red back to their stall, that's the same. same as driving to your stall with damage under red. So I don't know if that's why they went yellow in that situation. But if they if that was that they were doing something wrong there because you know, like to me they're just when if you throw the red, I think everybody, the yellow should not come out until every car has been either towed to the garage because they got too much damage to be done or towed to their pit stall and the track is clear and ready to go. You should be able to come around

and open pit road up that time. We had to send, we had similar instance on Saturday. We were in that wreck and won. Why had to stop Carson about, you know, in the short shoot there before pit road, we were done. We were done. And I had to stop him there. And he had to sit in the car, the entire red flag because we couldn't move. And I mean, maybe I should have just told him to go back. But you know the roles.

And I didn't want to move. So, and you don't want to bring any unwanted attention to yourself. Because when you do move under red like that, that is not. And you don't really know what's going on. It could be safe. I don't want to, you know, rock any boat and don't need Carson's name. We know that. I mean, but that's my point.

Like, should they even be, I don't even know that you should be towing them back under red. You know, if they're going to continue. I mean, you have to tow them back. You've got to get them off the race. Why don't you tow them back to the skid pad? So everybody got a fair chance. What's the difference? What's the difference of towing them back?

Then driving back. You know, like, I don't, I don't know. And I don't know why if that that's just, I don't know if I'm just, I don't, I really don't know. There's definitely. I'm dumbfounded on this one. There's definitely like a gray area there where it could be. Is there?

I mean, yeah, to me, I mean, you're getting free track position kind of. I mean, you're, you look at the, the 48 was one of them. I know for sure the 45. The 48, if he would have lost the lap, the best he would have finished, I think was 23rd. He finished, I think, 16th, 17th. So he's gaining six or seven points right there. He's pretty safe. He's not going to get knocked out.

But, you know, that six or seven makes a difference. You know, if it's other, you know, Redick gained three or four. He's only 14 up on the cut line, I think. So what if, what if, you know, what if there's too bad? races and that that point still come into play i mean you just never know it's just i don't understand why you would ever go back yellow and not move the field like i just don't i don't i don't i don't i don't know why chris lambert almost had a heart attack he was upset he was trying to get on the show today i think we did him a favor by not letting him come yeah he was pretty ill there for every time i was the

second maddest i've seen and the maddest i saw him was at you that time he wasn't even really mad at me At that point. Was it the same track? Yeah, Lambert go back there. Yeah, Lambert was mad yesterday. That might, he was,

I mean, he was wrong. I mean, it's, what are we doing? In this same scenario, I mean, you,

the same wreck, we changed the entire DVP policy in one shot, and then we did something we've never ever done before. Like, what the hell is going on up there? I was lame mad

because I couldn't find the wastesray. God almighty, they were all over to place. Okay, let's talk about that real quick. Did you see how many of there were yesterday? We're in the middle of a green flag run, 20 laps in, and then they decided to come up there and spray wasp. What do you think the wasp did?

They got pretty happy about that, I'm sure. What the fuck are we doing? They sent this 15-year-old kid up there with a wasspray, and I'm like, why are all these wasps flying around me? All of a sudden. I look up, and I'm like, holy distracted hell. Thank God Joel ain't here because he's allergic. I guess the first thing I thought of was my buddy Joel Evans. McReynolds must be allergic, too, because he...

We're in the middle of the race, and you had... 365 days to come spray these wasp and you wait to her under green at Talladega with 40 people staring on there's legit only like there's probably three or four tracks that I can tell you there's going to be bees at right now let me give all you track operators a little advice pressure wash and spray for bugs before we get there it ain't that hard we don't want to stand bees and stuff we don't want to say okay you complained last week about nociums biting your little no one noceums what the hell's a noceum I would have told you to tie some gas around that candy ass.

If I would have had gasoline, I would have put it on me at that point. That was bad. But my blood pressure is going up. What tracks is it? Darlington. Now it's Talladega. Loudon has a bunch there. Those are the main.

Main three right there for bees. Just give one of us a pressure washer and bug spray before we get there. I just got there and make the spray for them. The potter stand. I'm not pressure washing anything. Okay. Where were we all that bird? That was darling.

That's not, but it's not. I've already been through that. It's not that. You can't pressure wash bird's, it's been pressure washed, but it's the residue from the soap. Oh, it's not. It just, oh, okay. I'm 45 years old and dumb as fucking. I don't know what bird's shit looks like.

It's okay. Apparently you are. Thanks for calling yourself out. Okay. Next. It's a TJ's topic. Yes, that's right. TJ's topic.

Which one is it? Spot on, spot off. Brad Tislowski caused the big one, triggering the biggest wreck in NASCAR history. cars involved. Spot on spot on. Hold on. I'm rewriting it a little bit.

Yeah, wait. First, first, first one. Who wrote this? What wrote it was correct. What Andrew said was a little. I was getting ready to go off on. It's a little bit more direct.

I was getting ready to go off on two school day over here. Two chains. Oh, I got two. I graduated from both. Spot on. T.J. Are you spot on or spot off that you started the wreck? Were you distracted by the bees?

Was that? No. Were you looking at the bees and you just drove straight through the back of the two cars? I am spot off on the wreck because. No, you don't ever want to see that big wreck like that because we lost every bit of help that we had. First of all, we've been in that position before and I kind of liked where we were at again. Same as the spring race there. I feel like we were kind of controlling how far we could get the two out when we wanted to.

And we were in a good spot. But then we catch a lapper and everything gets off sequence a little bit and everybody's just trying to. It's the end of the race, man. These guys aren't going to cut each other any slack at that point. I don't expect him to. So, you know, four or five of us got all linked up together. And whenever you're doing that, the guy in the front, I mean, every single time three or more cars are locked bumpers, the guy in the front usually just gets shucked out there really bad. And, you know, it happened to Austin.

Austin was driving a great race, too. He was doing everything he needed to do to put himself in position to have a shot to wait. Yeah, right, right until he didn't. I mean, he did get out too far. So you could have controlled that a little bit. But, no, it was just circumstance plate racing. How much break did you drag when you got back to his bumper on your little data thing on your phone? How much break?

Well, we were all over the brakes. We were all over the way before we even hit, like way before. Like it started. What's that? Brad tweeted the SMT data. Well, I mean, even like I saw it coming and it wasn't even Joey. Like as much as I'd like to blame, Joey was getting shoved through us. And Joey was getting shoved by the 21.

Who was getting shoved by the 14? So the last I checked, five cars shoving. I just think it's funny. There is some humor in this because Doug's a good friend of mine. And after the- According to Doug, we do it every week. After the Daytona race, he was about me driving through somebody,

which when you're coming to the white flagger-chegger, guess what you ain't I say? Lift, man. Well, I guess when I was right through him. Never mind, Tyler Monce at Lyft. But, I mean, this is the product. This is maybe the only thing that you just watch these runs, the entire race and you watch these guys get hit.

so hard and you're like man they need a mouthpiece in they're going to get whiplash in there they get hit so hard and then finally you find the point to where the driver's going to run out of towel can't save it yeah well we've had one on the front stretch there was a really hard well that's different than the flat backstretch yeah for sure good news for blaney though i saw after the race that Alex hated that that happened so that's good news for Ryan i know that that was that's going to make him feel better that Alex Alex that makes me feel way that I mean Everything is good. I'm going on a campaign about this hate stuff.

Like, we're ending all hate. If you, from now on, if you say that, ever hate in the beginning. From now on, if you say that, you were absolutely 100% happy that it happened.

Like, it's the opposite. Like, it is the exact opposite. Could you imagine like Bowman gets out of the car? I could not be more thrilled about that. I didn't know what the hell. Ryan was doing.

You see Ryan come back up there with the right front hanging off of it. I'm like, I told Bubba he was coming. The way he was going after him. I was like, I was like, uh, I said he's coming. I don't know if he's just trying to get a spot back or he's going to wreck somebody, but he's got the right front hanging off. Yeah, but going back to this wreck, like TJ said, you know, by no means the 38

doing anything wrong. He just rode to the bottom and, and I think that kind of split that lineup and got the two a little too far out there. Well, when you go back to a car getting lapped. I'm going to save that for my second. I'm not talking about my swore as. I'm not talking about as when you go back to a car getting lap at Talladega, there used to be do I blend up from the bottom?

Do I blend down from the top? You know, spotter driver conversation, which I had to have yesterday with AJ. And then you had Ross that year to just said, pulled up in the middle of the field. He just swerved. And once he did that. Briscoe did it like the next year, I think.

Now it's okay. It's like that guy has to, he's got to stay in front of whoever else he's racing. He's got to do this. And so I thought for sure. There's another side of the gentleman agreement that's out. When I, we were coming up to, I was, well, Bubba was second or third line.

What lap was? Where is his deal on? Two, whatever. No, it was probably a little bit. It was like 10 maybe. It was early. 12. Oh, my gosh.

The, uh, we'll talk about that later, I promise. Uh, the, we were coming up to lap you and we were second and third line. And I'm like, f***, Brett's going to do it. No. I was like, this son, he's going to do this dumb shit. I'm going to kill him. No. Oh.

That's all I can think about the whole. time as we're, I'm like, here we go. There is a play. Like, there is a play for this move at certain points in the race, like, whenever you do need to stay on the lead lap and stuff. But like, we'll talk about the first one that later. I think you have to do it. I think you, if you're desperate, if you're desperate, you have to do it. Yeah. If you're not desperate, it's dumb. Like, yeah. And that's what we'll get to later. But yeah, this wreck here just, I think just plate racing. And I think we all can agree, it's T. T.J's fault. So 100%. Especially the got, especially all these, these people that Brett

college just darts on Twitter and stuff. Oh, I got tagged in so many. Oh my God. Can't wait until TJ sucks? I was like, I got it. Like, TJ you suck, by the way. I really hate it for TJ that he's getting all this hate. I mean, it's fine.

Has it got this much hate to listen. For Joey. I know. I have not my timeline. And Joey did this. Nothing fills my timeline like that day. Like, oh, like the hate messages that I got over that. Like, I got your day's messages from people.

Like, it was great. Was that Bristol? that you were never alive to. Yeah, pretty much. Yeah. Sorry for sending some of those, DJ. Dude, you were like four when that happened. All right.

Last spot on, spot off. You were putting diesel and gasoline cars at that point in your life. I still like to do that. After the race, Denny Hamlin's crew chief, Chris Gabehart said, Chris Gabehart, sup. With Gen 7 Speedway racing, I just don't see any greatness. Once you get all lined up, you're just stuck. If we want driver racing discipline to matter,

these tracks, we have to do something. Spot on, spot off. Let's go to Brad. I agree with them. You know, when you look at the move yesterday where T.J. doesn't get up to block the top in the old days with the old cars. We're never getting past. Even with the alliances, you want to get that lead because you know I can get up right here.

And when the bottom comes back, I can get down. I can fade a line. So many opportunities, much like the Xfinity series is even still today. for the driver to showcase his skill and the team to showcase their ability to beat speed in a race car, whether that be the motor department, the area department or whatever. So I side with Gabe Hart, and I agree something has to be done. And I just think the integrity of the racing at Talladega has been compromised given what we're putting on the track right now. And as much as I love it, as much fun as I had leading that race yesterday, as much fun as I had, I had being up front.

As much fun as you had not saving fuel. Take. Well, yeah. Like that's way more fun than riding around. And because, I mean, once you guys got two by two after the big wreck,

there were four or five of us that consistently tried to get that top lane to form. And we could not get more than a row or two. And then it would completely die. And nobody else on the top lane was willing to pull up to give it a go with the Toyota cars. around us or even somebody that was up there like fifth or sixth on the top to make potentially I don't know create a vacuum to bring us to him wide yesterday more than I've ever been my entire

running 70% throttle if that yeah well the leaders like some guys like we were trying to actually get to the front a few times I think Eric Jones when he started that stuff with a four wide deal going I think he was digging but once you once everybody's like oh we'll block this lane once they fill the lane you're running yes four was 51 so The front four, the front two rows of the four wide could save a little bit of fuel. It was impressive to me for two laps and then I thought I was watching a pre-race Eldora parade lap. So Corey LaJoy then, I mean, a couple of the guys started figuring out how to get five wide in where the door, and the doors were opening up, a lane up off the bottom into the trival and up against the wall right on the entry to the trial.

You've been around here long enough to know if we were four wide at Talladega, balls to the wall, that's second lane from the top is going to have no air on it. They're going to be loose as crap and they're going to get out of the throttle. Well, yeah, I mean, there's definitely more handling issues before now. We don't have any. No, we don't have them. But I'm spot on for for Gabehart's comments here. He's absolutely right. There used to be and Freddie probably has been a part of some of it. But me and Rhett have probably seen a lot of it in the early days there. Just the craft of plate racing. And guys, you know, there were guys that had. it and you knew those guys and if you let one of them guys get to the lead they were going to be

hard to pass and it was guys like tony dale junior mcmurray mcmurray was really good um Brad Joey when those guys got to the lead man it was like you had to really work to get around them and it didn't matter if it didn't matter if i was in a forward you were in a Chevy we were going to work together to try to get around this guy at some point it took two or three of us to do it and And, you know, even it pains me to say this, but Denny, I mean, Denny's one of them guys that has learned that craft. And he is, if you put the handling and all that back into these cars, you're going to see these guys. These are the guys that you're going to see in the front. Dates on a 500 is the sixth race on the schedule from right now. What do you do? I don't know. Aside from starting over from scratch with a different car, there's, I don't know what to do. And you hear, like you named guys you mentioned, Joey Legano yesterday saying, I didn't have any fun. today at all. I was just, you're stuck. Yeah. You know, Danny Hammond last week on his show says everything I learned from

Tony Stewart and Dale Jr. back in the day is completely useless now. And my problem is, you know, yeah, sure, four wide looks impressive. And it is impressive for even at half throttle. Yes. To be out there running around four is not easy by any means. But it's, it's easier than when we're running wide open back of the day. But the problem. My only problem is that's great. We can make it look impressive when nobody really cares. But when we're trying to, race. At the end of the race, it's two by two. You can't get a third lane going and there's no excitement whatsoever. It's just whoever can get their lane to push at the right time down the back stretch or into three and four. That's who's going to win the race. And, you know,

I saw people this week complain. Like last night saying, well, you guys, you know, saving fuel is not new. You guys used to get to the top and ride around. Yes, we did get to the top and ride around single file a lot. I wanted to save fuel. And that was the saving fuel. That was just saving cars. That was not to kill each other. Yeah, that was saving cars. Logging laps. And I get it. That looked boring. But guess what happened?

When it came time to race, it happened. You know, you could make some stuff happen. You could be last. Dale Earnhardt. Where did he win that race from? And he was mid-20s or worse.

And 10 laps drove to the lead. You know, you could do that back in the day now. So I can, one thing in Washington, the Xfini race and the cup race, the cars to me, these guys,

they can run four wide because the cars are super easy to drive, in my opinion there. There's no, how many times in the Xfini race? you see a guy go through the trial will just hang it on like because someone's right up under his spoiler there and he's just hanging on you don't see that in the cup side at all and these like these guys and this is nothing these drivers are really really really good they can run literally this far off each other four wide and not even and not even break a sweat doing it which is

incredible to do but it's just like you said you can't Brett you talk about the the craft of spotting and and or driving and either way just a played race in general. Spotter and driver. You know, back in the day, you guys had the entire colleague fleet, I think, was back there and you take the top lane and you were right behind us, I think. And I'm like, you got to stay middle. And it's like years past when we had a car that you could race with. Obviously, my job was to get him in front of you.

We move forward. Somebody's going to jump up in front of us. That's how you get that line moving forward. And Bubba even said on the radio, he's like, you're sure that this top lane's not going to work. And I'm like, no, the numbers show that as long as everybody in the bottom two rows is running 100% the top cannot get formed. It can't happen. So, and you saw it. Like you said, the front two guys who get tandem, they drive up maybe two rows. And then as soon as they got split up, they just get right back to the back. So yeah. And of course, everybody knows that. So now

nobody's going to watch Kyle. I don't know what the hell Kyle was doing on the last lap. I know he's just desperate like trying to make something happen. But, you know, that new, that move was never going to work into one just pulling out, especially without. I want him to pull him back just a little bit. If somebody went with him, he might have got next to the guys for the lead. But then down the backstretcher in the three, he would have been back there with us. I was like, oh, gosh, please let him get up there a little bit because it was going to pull. I was going to take that whole line back a little bit. I was like, oh, thank you, Kyle.

No, that's not good. Yeah. But yeah, it's just, that's my biggest issue is I really don't care what happens that first half of the race. But when it comes time to race, you can't do nothing. You know, you're just kind of locked in the way. And that's why we see, everybody always asks like, why do we see fuel saving now versus why is it? Why is this just the new problem? We didn't have this before.

It's because you can't pass. So you're saving fuel to make that last pit stop as short as possible. So you can cycle to the front of the pack because you know if you're not in the front of the pack in that last run, you're going to finish, unless there's a wreck, you're going to finish wherever you're at. We were, I don't even know where we're running mid teens probably. And I was like, we're stuck here unless they crash. You know, you're not be able to go anywhere. You're just going to, we're going to fall to 20.

We were in that position, the first kind of half of the race. And we tried to, we got an opportunity to flip it. there a little bit and that's where we got our track position at the end, but we had to sacrifice the whole first half to get it flipped. Well, coming up right after this is Reaction Theater presented by Consumer Cellular. Now it's time for our favorite segment, Reaction Theater,

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Breaking news. Doot-Doo-Doo-Doo-Doo. Radikovsky, Rex. whole field and an aggressive push at a super speedway. We've never seen that before. Breaking news, Darf number one. Let me hear your slack your lips of that one, T.J. You stupid, fucking idiot.

A new entry this week, T.J. You have to change it up. Uh, T.J. Major, bought her for the bulldozer, six cup car. Typical Brad plowing through people. Way to wreck the entire field. Jack, go five. Darf number two.

Oh, go five. Yep. Taxes and grabs. Lowsky wrecking the field at a plate race. Hey, I got an idea. You know, we put a yellow stripe on the back of a rookie's bumper. Maybe we should put a blaze orange stripe on the guy who calls us a wreck at every single plate race.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, TJ, I know you were getting pushed by the 22 and the 21. You always got an excuse. Hala. Is that you? Is that you? Did we cause the first plate? Did we ask the evidence presented against you? do you have any defense?

I love the fact the guy said, I know, I know the 22 and 21 we're pushing you. You got no excuse. It's pretty solid excuse. And he left off the 14, which I feel bad because you got to leave. You got to give him some credit.

Yeah, you got to get everybody credit. Give credit or credits. I got to give credit to the Fords that pitted early in a race and by cause a hell of wreck off for it because nobody knew they were coming. That was awesome. Oh, yeah. First.

Don't wave down the bag. Don't wave on the roof. Let's just try to have a seat. Is this your, first plate race with this car because I don't know if you know that's not nobody waves anymore that's not true us down there in the Toyota camp we wave oh yeah four yeah for you're waving to four three in the spring race no yeah we're waving we're waving for the ambulances to get over there as fast as they could real nice yeah we're calling to report a cluster over in turn three here

we got people everywhere they're scattering like ants we got one guy he's driving backwards it's all over the place. I love it. You. Fittittittitt. Yeah, we're, we're backing up. I was back it.

I was like, what the hell is he doing? We lost visibility in that wreck very, very quickly. That was one of those where it was like, they're wrecking, they reckon it. Well,

I can't see. So they, they, I remember they built up that campground over there. Yeah. Remember when they, the year they, not only that though,

the smoke in the dirt. Oh, you can't see that. I told, but Bubba was making me shit. But like we, I was watching the 38 car, make sure nothing happened. And, of course, that's when the wreck happens.

And so I'm like late to call it. I'm just check up. I'm like, check up, check up. I can't see. Is what I said. I think because it was. Historically, when they wreck like that, you know, you are waiting for the calm of the post wreck to be able to say, okay, I see you navigate here, navigate here.

And I was like, can't see the track. Can't see the car. Crew chief's going, we in it? And I'm like, probably. There's a hurricane over there, but I have no idea. Yeah. And it's like, this is where. We wrecked one time with Dale Jr. there. It's all over YouTube, I'm sure. But the crew chief back then, you wanted the car back no matter what. You drove it back. I mean, that thing had two tires and, you know, four feet shorter on one end. They still drove it back to the stall. And the crew chief wanted to try to fix it. And we wrecked. We're sitting down there against the inside wall somewhere and I can't see him. And I'm like, all right, we'll drive it back if you can. And of course, and typical Dell Jr. YouTube clip, he's like, are you effing serious?

And I'm like, I don't know, I can't see you. I'm just telling you to drive it back if you can. Yeah. And we were destroyed. So they built up that because it happened in the truck race. I think it was on Friday. They have that campground build up where the camper. So like we can barely see the low lane on the racetrack.

And I think it was the two truck got turned into three and was down there spinning. And I was telling by Dawson, I was like, he's spinning. I don't know where he's at. Like I don't know if he's getting ready to hook or write and come back up and wipe us all out. And Dawson did a good job of checking. up we unfortunately got run over from behind but they're down once they get below that yellow line we can't see anything

the 21 I don't know who the driver is I don't even know who it is hey I mean he just he just kind of he tried to drive it the problem was he tried to miss us like instead of just hitting the square he tried to miss us and kind of toward the right side off a little bit but yeah yeah you can't see anything all right guys long time listener here

first time caller we watch this four wide crap all day long we listen to the announcers try to make it interesting we're four lanes wide Everybody wrecks at the end. The whole field, we got 36 cars getting towed off into the frickin' wherever. I mean, Jesus, what are we about to do? A Talladega Roadcourse race next?

This plate racing, stuck! I'm tired of this. I don't even watch anymore. I tune in at the last 10 laps just to watch them wreck. We do 17 triple overtime replays or restart. Man, this race was as bad as watching the game costs. I agree. Any of you guys got the direct phone line from Michael Jordan, Danny Hamlin.

I'm ready to file a lawsuit against NASCAR myself for putting on probably the shi-d-draise that I've seen in my lifetime. This four-wide racing sure was interesting to hear them talk about it and pretend and sugarcoat it like it was awesome. And then we get to watch everybody wreck with just a few laps to go and do unlimited restart. I can't watch it anymore. I'm ready for Cavaldega to rip up the infield and do a road course for 2025. No. Please no.

Yeah, please no. There was only one restart at the end, right? Yes. Yeah. Yeah, I think he's just talking about old reasons. Oh, we've had plenty. There's a clean finish, too. Yeah, you're going to have it with 10 cars.

A little like a freaking practice. Hey, I think one thing, and I didn't see it. That big wreck, I didn't see one car. Upside down. I didn't see one car, so I would know if they were up right now. From the replay, I saw shooting straight down the back stretch. I'm telling the fans of the first stretch. they were like a pile of dirt.

Yeah. I'm just saying like it looks like maybe that adjustment the deal they put on there. It didn't hurt. Yeah. So, because there was plenty of opportunity with that many cars wrecking for somebody to catch air. Good news is now they've got time to go back and dissect between now and February

what it really does in a wind tunnel. Whereas here, this was obviously them just throwing something to wall and hope it works. And I'm thankful no cars ended up upside. Yeah, for sure. T. T. J. your point, the two looks like it wanted to flip over.

a couple of times but I ended up and he was in a good Is that one a perfect spot? Yes. It was before

a hamburger he was in a good spot that was like watching a figure skater do like triple lutz it looked like the hail melon I mean my man yeah maybe that's what herring was doing a hell melon in Talladega

I mean that might be the way to get through these wrecks because if you check up you get run over sometimes like it's your only opportunity so I was skating around I saw obviously you see this wreck and then I look over there

and I see the two just I mean, whoa, and I'm like, is that what got him? Yeah, he was like nose back up to the wall and Daniel was trying to rim rides

around the outside. No, he went to try. He was trying. It didn't work. That's why he was. He was running. So right in the beginning of the race,

we're rolling here and we go to the third lane right in the beginning. We're going to the front and, oh man, Daniel throws a block. I want Data King to tell me how fast Hemrick was going when he hit the two because I would guess 120. I mean,

that's what I was in. I want Data King. Data King. King. Like Tiger King? All right, next call. Hopefully not like Tiger King. It hasn't been... T.J's in the weird...

That kind of weird... Dude. You don't know. If you want to talk about weird shit, I mean, there is nobody taking that crown from you. You talked about trying to marry SVG at one point or something. Next caller.

Damn, when it's got to be the luckiest son of a in the whole damn world. 20 below the cut line. now he's 30 above. I hate him. Hey, easy. I'll tell you that, Danny will be the first to tell you.

He got very lucky yesterday. Blaney, I think got very lucky yesterday. I think Blaney got very lucky yesterday. Well, I'm just saying, like, after he's wrecked, I don't know where he was sitting cut line-wise, but that wreck eliminated Joey and the two who were probably going to make up a bunch of points on him if they finished where they were running.

So that's true. That was a good break for him. Do you know why you can't get new fans? Because you changed your day. They're rules every week. You can't keep track. And this sport is the thing. Your damn shit show.

Wow. Jeez. I just finished watching the Tadayga race. And, you know, one big thing I want to hit on is we need to talk about the fact that just because these races are ending in photo finishes, today was, you know, 0.006 seconds. It does not constitute it as a good race. So far, this season, we are going closer and closer to F1, then we have. have in the sense of where you qualify is where you run.

If you guys have talked about it for years with this new car, where you qualify is where you run. If you really want to see good racing, you may as well just tune into qualifying and not watch on Sunday. More of the story is close finish does not mean good race. I agree. And I was surprised. I haven't looked updated.

But when I voted on the Gluck Bowl this morning, it was 70-30 good race. That was surprising to me. I guess maybe the four wide. I mean, I don't think it was. a bad race. 64% now. Yeah. And I mean,

I don't think it was a bad race. I just, let me vote. It's just so much different to be, I mean, it's like Bristol, you know, like,

it's just so much different than what it used to be with this particular design of the car. Yeah. Toyota, B-O-Y-O-T-E-R, Toyota. Thanks, Lee, Diffy. I've seen something about,

we won the rev. I got a tweet yesterday. And it was like, we won the Revolutionary War just so I got to listen to this. Britt called this race again. Yeah, damn Brit. Speaking of Brit. He's coming on. He's coming on the Monday after the role.

Next week. Next week. Who? Lee Diffy. Lee Diffy. What do you mean speaking? All right. Lee Diffy.

Speaking of Britain. Brit. Brit. Yeah. Well, everybody calls him British. Yeah. So they think he's. Yeah.

But then, yeah. That's awesome. Did you go back and watch him to the race yet? It's awesome that he's coming on the show. It's not awesome. It's not awesome. I caught myself. We've also got Bob Prockers on the show next week.

Did you watch you into the race yet? Like a replay of like the broadcast? No. So they're like, we're just two by two at front and we're in, you know, and Brad and the first four cars are working on time in their runs and figuring out they're doing,

they're working. But then so like Hemrick or AJ would pop out, SVG like 10 rows back. And he's every time someone would pop out, he'd be like, oh, here comes a third lay to see if it materialize. Oh, it doesn't, like 10 seconds later. That's his job.

Yeah, he's good. I mean, I enjoy listening to him. The race ain't even over yet. I have no idea who won. NASCAR won, though. Fiask, he gets to work on his shit. Joss Berry, four flat tires. Get on the fucking trailer.

Not Chase Elliott, though. Not Chase Elliott. This is the biggest load of bulls-s-mother-fitting. I've ever seen in my life. What a fuck. More people need to sue them. This is... So since the chance...

Chase twins were apparently not damaged in the wreck, because that's the rule, right? Josh Ferry was not towed back to get his tires replaced because he was in the wreck. He was damaged. Since the 14 and the 9 are not damaged, I say we require them to bring the same car to the roval next week. Because, you know, it's fine. It's not damaged. The DVP is a joke. NASCAR officiating is a joke.

They're incredibly inconsistent. They are making stuff up as they go along, it feels like. I hope that stuff like today is fuel for the lawsuit because you can't say that everything's being treated fairly when you've got the nine car being pushed back to the pits after Josh Barry was, you know, told he was done after last week. I don't disagree with any of those people. I think we've covered that, which I think, yeah. I think I just got upgraded to first class from my flight, boys. Good, good. It's good.

How, you fly one time a year. Meg, Meg's got some status. She must have bought some. No, she's usually pretty good. Yeah. I don't, I kind of agree with all those people. Did you hear? Did Josh have a good quote?

Josh had the best interview I've ever seen. Oh, my God. Did you see that? Oh, that was. What was it? What are he saying? He said something like just surely they're not telling those guys back, right? Or so like it was just, I can't remember.

It was sarcastic. He was just being very sarcastic. Like, it was great. He said the, he said the 42s back there. And which I did must have been bad because NASCAR says something about on the radio. He said the 42s back there doing donuts, throwing rubber at all the, there's people standing around trying to help these guys. Yeah. And they're doing everything they can to get going.

So they're just dropping, you know, 100% throttle, trying to do a burnout leaving. And they're flying up on these people that are trying to help them. Yeah, but it's a disaster. Just finished watching the Degger Rae. Listen, my girlfriend had never really been an NASCAR fan, just only known a little bit about it. This is her first full Tall Dagger race that she ever watched. She fell in love with the fucking shit. It was awesome.

Four wide, big crass. The biggest NASCAR wreck we've ever had. Listen, my girlfriend is a huge fan now, okay? She's about to love my long pit road. I bet she got her boobs out. That's funny. That's a good call. That's what Talladegh is.

I bet she went home with 100 pairs of beads and a different shirt. This dude might, he might just wife her right now. I was pretty disappointed. I went to the boulevard. down the stands. No, yeah, Billy O. wasn't there.

I was disappointed Billy O. wasn't there. The, yeah, I went to the boulevard Saturday night. I was going to. We used to throw beats

from the spotter stand out to the crowd during the red flags. So now we're too high. We can't do that anymore. Yeah. It's a way more. I do have to apologize. I have to apologize to one DBC fan.

And this is a blanket statement for all DBC fans. If there's a, if there's a bad time to ask for a picture, it's when we're trying to leave. And this guy was down, like where we, used to spot from me. He's like, hey, can we get a picture? And I was like getting on the elevator. So I apologize that we didn't get a chance to take a picture. We're our hauling ass to the

car to get out of there as fast as we can. So if sometimes I do it, you know, if I can, well, it's not. But yeah, well, that was unfortunate. Sorry about that. But scheduled meet and greet right at the Charlotte. Come to Charlotte this week. Yes, that's right. Come to Saturday night. Come to the Charlotte. Roval experience here. Well, to leave an audio message or text message. Yeah. Jay will text you back. Because I have nothing better to do with my Sunday afternoons than to text all you Darfs. Darf Charmer. Oh, now you call everybody, Darfs.

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Lives! Here we are. It's time for S.DBC. You thought you could get rid of me. No, you can't. I'm here in replacement of Casey. And we have DJ and Freddie who are really trying not to cuss right now because we are live.

So welcome to ask door bumper clear. Please don't cuss. Please don't cuss. Anyway, hi. How is everybody? Don't cuss. Don't cuss. There's a guy in the YouTube chat saying hurry up.

Hurry up. We're trying. Hurry up and why. We're trying to get out of here. We can just get this over there. I'm saving fuel. I'm running 40% right here. First question.

Nope, that's the spot on spot off. I was about to reach your spot on spot. Martis asks, Stenhouse is now the third non-playoff driver to win during the playoffs. Where are the chances we continue to see playoffs? spoilers win races in the playoffs. I think you could very easily see one this week. Either one of them call that guys, SVG or Ericomarola.

I don't think he's going to win the cup race. I got to be honest. AJ Almondinger. Yeah. You've got a lot of good cars that can swing for the fence, you know, and that puts them in, you got guys that have to point race

because they absolutely have to. Yeah. And that takes, when you point race, you take away from, honestly, a lot of times a hurst your chance a victory. Yeah, for sure. We talked about that just in that, you know, about Redick last year there.

He was probably the fastest car, but I don't even know where he finished the top five, I think, but he kind of had a forfeited chance to win the race to chase some points. For sure. Iron Bear in the YouTube chat says, we can hear you, and that is terrifying news. Samantha Hall asks, she's headed to the Roval this weekend, and I'm so excited. What do I need to do beyond going to the NASCAR Hall of Fame? This will be my first time in Charlotte. well first of all you have to come to uh the live party we're having in the infield on saturday night right uh yeah i didn't get invited well there's a reason for that and take a hit take it oh man wow uh i mean that's a first the uh around here i mean there's i know there's some shops

that are having um fan days i just saw i pass shop i passed spire they have a sign out there for october 11th i think i have no idea what you call your place that's not really a shop air speed air Airspeed, buddy. Don't know mess with Airspeed. I don't know that Airspeed's having a official fan day, but there's, if you go there, there's a really cool area of viewing area. You can look at the whole shop. Most of the shops have a viewing area. So I would probably spend a day if you got time to go into some of the local shops and checking them out. A lot of them have really great access. And you can really kind of see how these cars are put together and kind of see the lay of the land in the shop. You go to TJ's house. I'll send you his

address. You go to Freddie. It's on the screen. actually. When are you coming back? When do you coming back? I'll probably come back Wednesday, you think? Oh, never mind. All right. All right.

John will be there, won't he? John's there, yeah. Unless he goes to a Mek game, but I don't know if he's going to go. But yeah. So, yeah, I mean, there's a bunch of cool stuff. Millbridge,

yeah. Believe it or not, I don't know if they're racing. I went to Milbridge for the first time on how did that go? Did you see Casey? You should enjoy it? Is he cool?

Is that why your hair's right now? Yeah, it's from the clay. It's from the dirt. I think it's in my lungs still. Oh, I'm sure. We should do a match race at Millbridge one time. Me and you? I don't know.

Maybe put bread in there too. I would need bread. I think I'd be at a severe weight disadvantage against you. Yeah. There's good restaurants too. Yeah, everything. It's a big day. Fun area.

Big daddies. Big daddies. Big dads. They got some cars mounted on the roof. Big Alts. Go say hi to Kyle. Chipole. You idiot.

This next question. We've got two questions for TJ coming up. Oh, here we're ready. Here we go. This is going to be about. JBC wants to know if you also. smack your lips while you spot too. I don't know. I mean, you got free. You can go listen to out of the NASCAR app. I don't know it's free. You might have to. Yeah, you might have to pay like

four bucks. I guarantee you. Yeah. I'm sure you spent five bucks in a worse way. No, I've never, but somebody has. And then Stephen wants to know, did you go to the boulevard over the weekend, T.J. I guess either of you. No, I did. Specifically asking about you. I did not go to the boulevard at all. T. T.J. The only way T. The only way T. J's going to get to the boulevard if it's on a video game. If he's got to like, if he's got to run, if he's got to run a college football team down the ballpark maybe or something. Speaking of that, we're playing in the national championship tonight. Who you got? Who you playing against?

Stephen Stephen. Oh. So, yeah. Who's your team? Hey, let me tell you about Stephen and this thing, though. Is he cheating? He has a new girlfriend. Oh, he does?

I don't know that. He is restricted from playing at certain times. But you know what he says? Oh, my internet's out. Well, it is. It might be, she might shut her down. The internet's definitely out. So, but yeah, Stephen, and he got, he was having a good time later night.

I was telling me, you know, about 15 times how he's going to win. So we'll see how this goes. What teams are you guys? South Carolina versus Michigan. And who are you? I'm Michigan. Michigan. Way to go out on a limb.

Yeah. And Dale's like Charlotte, isn't he? Yeah. He actually is turned them into a very good team. So they're in the top 10. My guy here, I heard Dale on the show last week say that he beat Drew Parker like 35 to nothing. I'm wearing Drew shirt in honor of that beat down. He took Drew from the Charlotte 49ers last week.

Yeah, the country singer is in there. I mean, I made Dugger quit. And then he rejoined, thankfully, because it's fun to have him in there. But I made him quit in the last. I, to answer the question, I did go to the boulevard Saturday night. I was shocked. I was a little, I was a little disappointed. It was a little more tame than I remember it being.

I hadn't been in years, probably since Bubba's been running trucks. I think there's the last time I went there. It's been 2013, 14, something like that. What brought you back out? I don't know. I was bored. The Mets had just once. I was kind of like, yeah.

Yeah. The problem is the problem is mainly we stay, I don't know, what, 25, 30 minutes away. No matter where you stay, it's not close. So I don't know if anybody's noticed, but I partake in alcohol drinking sometimes. So the fact of driving there and back becomes a problem because there's no Ubers in the state of Alabama, I think. But the so Nick Payne and Ryan Blancher just a couple other spotters. They were going. So I jumped in with them.

Yeah, no Netflix. I jumped in with them and we went and hung out for a bit. But yeah, it was, I mean, there was some. There was no nudity. That was a lie. There was some nudity. Nick's been slacking. Must not watching a video this last week.

Yeah, he did. But yeah, there was some interesting things going on down there. I stay in Birmingham and that's not a. That's an hour. Yeah. Yeah. I'm in Anniston or Oxford. Yeah, which is grown up a ton.

Yeah, for sure. this may not be the best question to ask live, but Joe wants to know what's the oddest thing you've witnessed on the boulevard that is appropriate for there were these saddles there were some racists they're still there by the way

they might the problem is you got to here's the thing with the boulevard and you got to remember this when you're going out there look at TJ's face. I'm not going to curse but I'm going to get a shutdown either way Jay looked at me in fear or And I was asking this question.

This face matches his shirt right now for some reason. These three sitting right here. They have no idea. So listen, there's people. There's things going on and there's a race or people sitting on saddles. You could probably think about it what's going on there. But some of the people that are willing to do this, like you got to remember like there's people standing. I mean, kind of the weird part is like you, I walked down this.

We did one lap. I walked down, walk back. And that was pretty much it. There people stand at this, this one display. And I'm like, you got to imagine the people that are going to sign up and be willing to do this aren't going to be supermodels is the best way I can put it. So then you got somebody's grandmas climbing on this saddle. And it's, it's, it gets a little bit much for me. Do they clean the saddles between races?

I didn't stay around. to watch much of it. But yeah, it was, I think maybe we should change it. And we are no longer live. There, listen, I think the most iconic thing on the boulevard is probably the guy that wears the Goodyear tire. Yeah, I didn't see him. Oh, really?

Yeah. I mean, when I say Goodyear Tire, I mean, he only wears it. He were suspenders in the Goodyear Tire. That's, that's the extent to his outfit. Yes. It's my Halloween costume this year. Please don't. All right.

There was, there was, there was one, um, money making opportunity that I did see. They had a very elaborate. They had a very elaborate. Pole? No, there was no poll involved. There was no poll involved. It was,

you ever seen them cash machines? Like an ATM? They blow money around and you're grabbing it. So there was, they had one of those. And there was just a prerequisite somebody had to take their shirt off to go in. But other than that,

that's how you would make money. So, I mean, there was, there was an entrepreneur available. That's a really good idea. Yeah, I thought. What do you get one of that? I don't know. But I'm going to probably look. We're going to.

We're going to make one for TJ and it's gift cards. It's going to get cut, like, sliced by gift cards. They had to use my gift card for a... Next question before we get canceled altogether. Fender brace or something. Let's see. Let's go back to the sheet. The sheet is all reliable.

So the sheet, I don't... I would pick a different question because I don't know... I don't know anything about that rule. Master of Light wants to know who's your dream... Evan's the guy supposed to be moderating chat. Yeah, Evan... Evan's the chat barter. I haven't seen no...

I haven't seen a pinned messages. been message yet. I'm over here running the board. Master of Light, our good friend Master of Light wants to know who's your dream celebrity that you'd like to meet.

I thought we were going somewhere else with that day last conversation. Who's your dream celebrity you'd like to see in that wind tunnel machine with the ones,

ready? Who! Thank God, Master, like cleaning that up for us. I don't know, man. I was, listen, I don't get Starstruck very often, but when I met Michael Jordan for the first time, it was, and I don't really know how I'm ever going to top that. So it would be, I don't know who, probably some, like one of my sports heroes, I would say, maybe like a Brian Leach or somebody from the Mets. Yeah, I mean, probably just Josh Allen. Should, this is from Jarrett from the YouTube chat. Should Stenhouse have been instructed by NASCAR to come down pit road to replace the mandatory door foam?

after the big one. We were talking about this earlier. Yeah, we talked about earlier during the show. I'd have to wait for Bob. Bob's probably going to, Bob's going to be here next week, but Bob will probably text me the rule, the official rule.

He might do it now that we're live if he's watching. But it's my understanding that, yes, he was maybe supposed to come down. And I heard Elton after the race say that they weren't aware that that was missing. And I don't know. So, I think they should just deque them right now.

Yeah, just take it away right now. but yeah so I I think by the letter of the law maybe he should have been instructed to come down there but they didn't they missed it yeah um let's see what do you guys have I'm not reading the one you penned why why why

is let's see here what is the one he pinned TJ Frey are y'all spotting in Exfiniting truck next year and for TJ are you spotting for Conor Zillich no I'm not spotting for Connor Zillich no I'm not spotting for Connor

Zillich. I am doing a full Xfinity schedule next year, though. You can't say who? I mean, I guess I could. They just announced it. I know. We can edit it out. Right now it's it don't really matter, but I'm planning. It doesn't matter. He's not going to say you say it right now. Yeah, so I'm planning on I sticking with Carson Quoppel next year.

We've ran really well this year together and we look to carry that momentum in the next year. I don't think he has any more races this year left. We got Zillich at Homestead and Phoenix. and Connor Mosack this weekend in the 88. Yeah. To answer the question, yeah. I assume I'll be spotting both, but I don't know. Yeah, I haven't figured out truck yet.

Yeah, but working on that. I mean, either. We'll see. Another thing that we were talking about actually earlier in the show, it didn't make air during our BS block, but we've had 18 different winners in Cup this year. Is that a good thing for the series? Is it a bad thing for the series?

I mean, no, it's good. I think. We talk about you want parody, and that's what this car was supposed to, create, you know, I think you see a lot of the, the unexpected winners, you know, are the, plate races like we, you know, we would assume. Yeah. You know, what would we have? How many different winners are there in the chase? How many, is there not, there hasn't been a repeat winner yet, though, right? You know, in the, like in the playoffs. Playoffs. Yeah. Yeah, I don't think

so. But yeah, I mean, you look at three of them are the Daniel Atlanta. I think you have an opportunity to see more because with the way the people are going to be. chasing points and that opens the doors for wins on other other cars. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I'm hoping to see the eight win a race. I like to see that street continue. I mean, you know, it's just one of that things. He's so close. Yeah. He's so close. Yeah, he's so close. Yeah, for sure. He was so close on the last lap too for a second. Oh, he got there. He got to the top and then. You almost had it. Someone's asking, does Kyle Bush win a race this year, driver 3019? And also, can we talk about how He completely got hung out to drawing that last lap.

Yeah. Nobody went with him. Yeah, I know we mentioned it earlier. It's just that that lane doesn't work at that point in the race when everybody's pushing hard. I wanted it to for him. Yeah. You hoped a couple guys went with him. I was hoping it took off a little bit.

I hope he wins a race. Brett said earlier that he, you know, he, Brett mentioned that he thinks it's possible that he could win this week. Kyle's had a lot of speed in the last month now. Yeah, they've been. So it's not really a sleeper to me. of it. If you told me right now that Kyle wins the robo, I would not be surprised.

No, I mean, really any of these next few races. Any of them. We got another question from Master of Light. Thoughts on Haley D. Excuse me. Oh, Jesus. I'm getting emotional. I mean, put yourself a check.

Get yourself a check. Go ahead. Thoughts on Haley Degan making her open wheel debut at the end of the month at Kota. I didn't know that. Was she driving like an indie light car or something? Great question. Master Lound.

He knows more than we know. Yeah. I would assume I know she was at one of the Indy car races. Yes, I saw some pictures. So I would assume it's maybe like the indie lights. I think it's awesome. But yeah, I mean, I don't mean. Yeah, why not?

Go and do it. Getting anything you can. Yeah. Add to myself to the list. The cough list. Perfect. How will next year's new broadcast deal impact the sport from your perspective? Does this mean teams will find more sponsor money for the five races on Amazon Prime?

Uh, yeah, it's a question. Yeah, it's really a question that Brett would accept. sell at. You know, I think it's, you know, they don't know, I think it's an unknown, really, because you don't know, like if somebody like Brett that's going out trying to sell sponsorship for a driver that he has, you don't know what that audience looks like. So, you know, right now, you have a historical data of, you know, we're going to get a million viewers on FS1 or, you know, whatever, USA. You don't know what that, you know, this. So it's harder for them,

I think it's an unknown. You can't. sell, you know, we assume we're going to get this. And, you know, there's numbers that are coming in lower than a million for the streaming races that is a projected audience. But like I said, they don't, they don't, there's no way to know for sure. So I would assume it's harder to sell sponsorship for those races. But I don't, I don't, that would be definitely something that Brett could tackle a little bit better. Uh, Taylor Grace wants to know. Is there ever a time you look for? Taylor Grace. Taylor Gray is not in the chat. Maybe not. He's quite a few years. I heard he's Pissed off of T.J.

Is there ever a time you look forward to the most to doing the podcast besides after a win? Every Monday. When I wake up, I'm just like, I can't wait to get in the studio. And then like I got hours of sleep. I really flew by. What happened was I got like I wake up every Monday so invigorated to get here into the studio. That's not really true. And then I got here this morning and Andrew walked in and I was like, what the hell is going on?

There was a show like a month ago that you were definitely not looking. forward due. Especially that one after John. Big Al's. John, yeah, that was a tough one. But no, I mean, like the, obviously the win ones are fun. You don't remember any of those. But yeah, I just, my favorite ones with the guests, like Gluck.

We got Gluck coming up in his yearly spot in the Martinsville race. I look forward to that one. Bob's going to be here next week with Lee. So that'll be a fun one. You know, anytime we got a guest coming in, especially my favorites like with people that really don't know, you know, like Connor. When we brought Connor on earlier in the year. You know,

get these people a chance to meet these people before. Even Todd. Todd was really good. Yeah, all of them. Like anytime we have a guest is my favorite. It's cool. I enjoyed everybody.

And plus like that means I have to talk to T.J. Less is as big of the bigger. Oh, we don't have to listen to bread as much either. People give you crap, TJ for smacking your lips. But Freddie, you're the,

uh, uh, uh, and like. I say a lot of like, uh, I'm a like guy. Uh,

uh, uh, Brady. Um, Check that pin message. Oh, there is a new pin message. Matt, and I'm reading these all for the first time. So if you got to pick a round from the playoffs, what three races would you choose?

Oh, all right. So pick the tracks. Like you get to, I guess, is it, would it be this round? I think. And I've said this before. If I, you know, I think the race is the playoff, the final should be a three race playoff. And I think your best three race. races are Homestead, Martinsville, Phoenix.

Just for the fact of the amazing turnout we get in Phoenix, I don't have, racing has never been good to Phoenix, never probably going to be good. It's three different tracks. And I don't have a problem with ending at Phoenix if it's not the end-all be-all. If it's a three-race playoff and you get there, so you're going to use a track where one of the raciest tracks we have in Homestead, Martinsville, hopefully we have a better short track package. And then, you know, then you have.

We tested there. so we should, right? Oh, yeah. Like I said, unfortunately, I say about all the tests of Martinsville, all that does is usually

get everybody closer to the same speed. But that would be my ideal round. If I was setting up a three-race playoff for the final round, it would be Homestead, Martinsville, Phoenix. Taylor,

there's another pin message from Taylor Grace, not Taylor Gray. Question for me, actually. Andrew, when do you listen to the DBC calls? So I know when to call in. So you actually will hear it

before it gets cut off. I think that's a question for Jay. That's a J question. Yeah. I don't listen anymore. That Andrew, I guess because your name is still on the voicemail. 704, 802, 9572. But there's at least 10 people that call on every week asking for Andrew.

Wow. So you're still, you're still popular. So you're a whole family. Yeah, they don't know where I went. But it is in fact not Andrew anymore. Has anybody seen Andrew? Where's Andrew? Yeah, I heard, by the way, speaking of Taylor Grace,

did you call Taylor Gray an idiot during the race? Were you spotting for Mills? Did I? Yeah. He must have called him an idiot. Now he's upset with you. He wants to come on here and punch you in the face. Okay.

Well, that's fine. There's an open seat. I mean, don't block the entire, or don't swerve in front of the field again in a truck race. I don't know what. Was that he was doing what we're supposed to do? Get in the middle and stack them up. A truck race. Now, what's a difference?

In experience. It worked. Did he get the lucky dog? They definitely wrecked. Did he get the lucky dog? Yeah, I guess. Good move. No, they wrecked, right?

Did they wreck? He didn't wrecked. But they wrecked right? afterwards. I mean, it definitely created that. And he finished second, didn't he? Yeah. Great move. Next. Until he's in that wreck. Well, finish second. P2. Great move. Weasel. Okay. Weasel. Wheezel. I'm just reading the names here. Could NASCAR make S&T data public and may be available via like a subscription service for fans? I have seen a lot of people

ask for that. I don't know why they don't. Like if all of us could see it. I know like, you know, my brother has, you know, he like I've logged into my computer and I think he probably has access to it. So he's into, he's really into, you know, and I think there's a lot of people out there that would like to watch that, you know, watch an in-car camera matched up with SMT data. So if I don't know why they wouldn't make it. Surely people would pay for it. You know, like if they're paying whatever it is, four or five dollars a week to listen to the audio, I'm sure they would like to listen to. Yeah.

I don't know if it would just open up way more. I mean, there's both sides of it, I guess. You could definitely, you're going to, you're going to see people posting screenshots of it all the time. This guy's lifting here. Well, you didn't lift there. You wreck this guy. But, I mean, we kind of do that anyway now.

So what's the difference for sure? Nicholas, this will all tie together. He asked me if I would ever do the triathlon at Daytona International Speedway, possibly. But I just wanted to thank you guys. because I still get people asking if I have my pills from last year. You're shark fin. Oh my gosh.

Fact stroke. What? Next question. So that was it. If you do it. I've got one in a few weeks again. All right. Be on your game.

I've got pills all set and ready to go. The whole left side was missing. You're on DVP. I'll tell a funny story out of quick before we go. Boy off live. Buddy of mine, we were on a vacation, and he had this rented a purple Dodge Challenger. It was bright purple.

And I see, I want that one. I see him. I don't know what he did. But I see him in the parking lot. I can see, I'm on the passenger side of the car, and he's on the driver's side.

And he's just like looking at the car and shaking his head. And I'm like, what's wrong? We're in like this resort. We're on a golf trip. So we're like this little gated resort thing. And he apparently the gate, like he was trying to do like,

the guy in front of him went through and then he decided he was going to go through behind him and he knocked the arm off the gate and then had like just the like the mount of it and it I'm talking like a can opener down the side of this brand new challenger that he rented. Oh my God, it was destroyed. So when you said that, that's what reminded me of it. Old, uh, Dave, Dave Roy's. Matt, Matt is asking the chat. How many hours a week do you guys study for the next track?

TJ is going to have a much larger number than me for this answer. I usually go back and watch the race. So whatever that is, three or four hours. And then if there's something in the SMT that I need to go up and look at, I will. But I usually just kind of watch the race and just try to see fine trends and stuff like that. But yeah, I don't, you know, I feel like you can overprepare sometimes and get yourself in a spot where it's, A little bit to your detriment. I normally don't.

I normally don't watch a race replay. I normally watch like SMT or something like that before or an onboard, depending on which race. It depends on the week, too. If I got a Sweeney with Carson, there's a lot more involved with a rookie like getting Carson. Carson's never been to these tracks before. So you're doing a lot more stuff.

You know, you try to find in cars. You try to find things to help prepare him for his first lap. I heard you used eye racing for Daytona. Yeah, we did a lot of ira-racing stuff. That's pretty cool. Not racing, but just putting him in scenarios that he could see on the track, working on the timing of the side drafts, what certain things look like,

just putting him in scenarios. And he said during the race, or even after he told me, he was like, you know, it was good because some of the things that came up, he had never really, nothing really caught him off guard because he said things would happen. He kind of had an idea on how it was going to be already. So to me that's worth it. And I think eye racing is a great tool. for doing that. Obviously, you're not going to go out there and just try to, you know, run a fast lap.

You can use it for scenarios a lot and getting drivers acclimated like for certain parts of tracks where the trouble spots are. And, you know, I just used a few buddies to put them out there and line up and let Carson try to make moves and time moves and stuff and do things like that. And I think it helped a bunch for him when he got there. So we do a lot of stuff like that. But, you know, there's a lot of prep work during the week depending on the series the the the a lot of cup stuff for brad brad likes to see things and you try to give them everything you know you can and and same thing with every driver really that you work with for my end but i would say tuesdays is probably almost a full day of it like for like a full day then you have meetings uh then you catch up with the driver

once you get all your stuff prepared you catch up with the driver you go over things you know uh for that race and and go from there brad's now tweeting live The OEM battle on play tracks has become next level with the video of Larson. Perfect. Last lap. So it's, if you haven't seen that video yet. I've never seen it like that. I mean, it's always been, you just race and you try to win as much as you can.

And it's never been, you know, oh, get off. You know, but it is what it is. One final question from trackside views. We were talking about irasing, TJ. What is your rating on irration? What's your count? my original accounts has been over 7,000 for years and years. It used to be good.

I don't know. Some of these guys are probably way up there now, but I haven't raced on that account probably four years. So four years ago, 7,000. Me and Deljured. We got into a battle. Where are you at Blake? What's yours?

And I probably have it way less race. Oh, great. How many races did you do it? it is. Who you voting for? How many? Oh, mine are like two hundred, maybe under 300. I don't know if they can hear Blake. So we got real political real fast. I think mine got all the way up to like 400 and something, I think. So this is no joke. Normally when you get into a race and Blake can you get into a race and sometimes you look at the eye rating of the guys that are in there. Just kind of see what you're racing with. There was a legit guy that had like 18 eye rating. Like that's

really bad. Like, yeah. I don't even know how you do that. That's not possible. Because you start at a certain number, don't you? You got to work real hard to get down to that number. Like I think I wasn't paying it. I don't know what happened. But my brother ended up like on my account for a week maybe or something like that.

Like I wasn't racing like against you guys. Probably play race week. Yeah, maybe. So but he did well. Oh. You know, so like my rating was way up. So then the races I was going into. I'm like, wait a minute.

Why am I? Why my car number one? Like I should have been. They're blowing by me. It is nice when you load into a race and I racing and you're a higher number because it gives you, it assigns you a number based on where you rank against everybody in there. So if you're the number one, you're, you're expected to win that race. So to go in there and be like an 18 to 20, it's like, oh yeah. But yeah, I don't see that much.

Yeah, I don't. I don't, does it reset? Because I haven't even turned my account on in probably three years. No, you're still probably on there. You'll still be there back. You guys still race? Not yet. Doug.

I think we're getting ready to with Dugger. Everyone's kind of getting the itch again. I'll jump back in there. I'll see him tonight. I'll tell him to get a fireback up. That loss he got handed to him. All right. Are we done live? That's it for Ask DBC. Jay, do I make it? Zero cuss words.

Wow. You did it, Freddie. We need like an applause. Andrew. There should be upstanding ovation. When Andrew where's your sound clips, Jay, we need the clap, but you know, the... Let's try one of them.

The golf clap or something. Yeah, they've got to be loaded in here somewhere. Oh, yeah, sorry. All right, well, I know that's hard. Thanks for tuning in to AskedBC Live. The full podcast will be coming out later today. What an Idiot! All right, it's time for What an Idiot.

Who wins this week's One Idiot Award? TJ, you had a list. Oh, I mean, yeah, there's always. There's plenty here. I bet it's hard not to go with the Lap 12 hero. I mean, how do you do that on Last 12? lap 12. You and I was the lap 12 hero, TJ.

The 99 car and you literally have a 180 lap race and you know there is going to be some yellows and stage rakes, which and there's no one else even in danger of going a lap down. You've got this in the bag, but. And it's like I almost didn't have a problem. I didn't love it because like we talked about earlier, it's a desperation move to make, make them split you. And it seems. like it always causes a wreck, but you're almost hoping for that.

You're just hoping not to be the wreck because you want the yellow to come out. You want that's going to put you in position to be the lucky dog. But this was like TJ said, lap 12. There's nobody in danger losing lap. We're getting a caution at lap 60. Just like play it safe. Not only these, you go to the middle. So he goes in the middle, picks up the middle lane, which I told, I had told Bob,

I'm like, this is going to be pretty exciting because we're three wide. This normally happens too wide. And it kind of works out a little better. This is three wide. So somebody was going to get stuck. 38 gets stuck in the middle of one and two. Then he splits him and he gets them. So now he's coming back again and then just tries to move up in front of the 78 of all the people in the world, B.J.

McLeod, who like doesn't do anything wrong to anybody. If you're already back to that's the way that's right. And B.J. is just chilling running up against the wall. If you're already back that far. That's probably why it happened. He probably thought he'd let him in. I'm saying. The problem was there was a gap.

There was a gap. There was. But if you're already in that area, you're already going to. catch back up and blow, you know what I mean? You're all, like, there's no need to make that move. Here's where the driver made an error when he turned right. Oh, I don't disagree with that. But he made an error before that and realizing that the field is not at full throttle.

There's no reason to panic. There's no reason to throw that hell Mary. Yes, there was a small gap there, but that gap is traveling considerably faster than what you're sitting. Yeah. And just calm the. calm down. If we were 100% throttle and he were going to lose a draft again,

I still would say this is a dumb move, but this is even a dumber move because they're saving fuel. There's just no sense. And then once he caused that wreck, then we didn't have to save fuel if we didn't want to. Yeah. Then we could make it. Yeah.

It was just, there's a brain fart. There's a brain fart on the whole understanding of, we talk about awareness on here. There was very low awareness on, on their part to make that decision. It was also, did you see him pulling up to,

pit again and then slam the brakes? No, I didn't see. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Why did we run the truck race on Friday afternoon and when did that start? I don't know. Because I think last year was doubleheading. What time did you go green?

And I'm asking you because I legitimately have no idea. 3.30. Yeah. He went green at 3.30. Yeah. On a Friday afternoon for a major sporting event that is considered a national series on national TV. 3.30.

Yeah. Local. It went green at 3.30. somewhere around there local. For sure. When it got dark here, I saw a tweet and who had won. And I was like, well, it would have been

nice to know there was a race. So I can't wait to see how great those ratings were. Maybe they'll be record breaking. And from now on, I'll just be the only one that didn't know they were racing. But I was very surprised.

Newsflash, we had another big rack. Yeah, I'm not surprised. But anyway, that's, I'm... All right. Pick it. Picks. T.J., you go first.

That was it. That was it. I think we had a unanimous. I'll say it was a well unanimous this week, I think. Wow. Yeah, I'm struggling here. I have really hoes Blaney. When is the truck race?

Are they truck race at the Roble this weekend? No. They're good. I won't miss this one. Going to the Roble. It's really going to be hard not to go with SVG. Is he running this race? I'm sure.

I don't think so. I don't think so. I don't think so. Well, then I can't go with him. I'll go with AJ Almondinger. Is he running? he's running. Okay, I'll take AJ.

I like AJ. Well, maybe I shouldn't take him if I want to run. I'll take SVG. Is he running? It's not my job to you. Who's running? I really don't care. I'm so far down on this one.

It don't matter. Casey's beating me. Play a man, Brett. Your eyes lit up so big when he was like, wait, is he running? And Brett was like, I don't know. He was like, well, take somebody up. Brett was just like, look like this.

Well, it's eyes about to come out of his head. It honestly don't even matter because I'm, I mean, my only hope right now is to beat Casey. So, and that's embarrassing. You got SVG, huh? I'll take Redick. I think the sleeper pick here is Kyle Busch. Pretty fantasy lovers. Very possible.

Which I know, like, TJ's a fantasy lover. I think you should look hard at Cowbush. So Casey's picks, her number one was SVG, too. was A.J. Almondinger, so she's going to have to go with her third choice, Ty Gibbs. Even she knew SVG was running. Honestly, she probably didn't know that. Yeah. Roval.

Roval is completely different. They changed one turn and it's upset. A lot of people. You know, I tell me that before I picked SVG. I'm not reconsider picking the best. We know where it's at. I wish Connor Zillich was racing. I'd pick him.

We now make a U-turn to get up on a racetrack. We don't have the Chase Elliott, Kevin Harbock, a little corner there anymore, right? No. Yeah. It's a very, it's a very, very, very tight corner. And I think with the concern of a lot of the drivers that I know some guys went and did like a track walk last week and did it. First of all, there's like an elevation change. Exactly where it is.

So it's turn seven is where you come back up onto the oval and turn one. Yeah. You used to have that little, just kind of little S section. Well, now you go straight. and then it goes into basically a U-turn, like a hair-pin turn to get up onto the banking. They've also changed the chican on the front stretch a little bit, but I think seven is the focal point of everybody's kind of higher at this point,

mainly because I think that some guy, first of all, there's a little bit of elevation change there where you're kind of coming over a hill, so it's kind of a blind entry. Breaking is going to be tricky because, you know, drive over the hill or you've got to break before the hill, whatever. but the biggest problem is I think to properly take the corner you've got to take a pretty wide arc into seven Coda and late in the race there might be some guys willing to not take that wide of an arc and just say that I'll just use that guy yeah shotgun that guy

so I think that it's going to be interesting to watch it maybe you make the racing great but I know there's there's a lot of people in the pit road in the garage that we're not thrilled about it bring it on we'll see chase elliot needs a good run a lot of guys need a good run yeah there's a couple guys that's hair out and then must wins but the reality is i mean centric's a good road racer lagano's a good road racer chase elli's good road racer like all those guys right there around that bubble redick's good road racer i think it makes for a great storyline going into the weekend so these guys they're so close they're going to compete with each other there is no more staying in line at a plate race and helping your teammates like that here now they need they all need these points now

Yeah. And I think how many Penske cars are out? Two, Joey and Cindrick. So Blaney's only one. Blaney's in a good spot. Yeah. Yeah. And like going back last year, our experience with this race, we went in, we were down. I don't remember, not a ton to the cut line, but maybe 15, 20, I want to guess.

And we were of the opinion that we had to get stage points. And I think it cost us the race because Bubba was really, really good in this race last year. And we got stage points, but we lost track. position each time because we were chasing the stage points. Had we just run the race backwards, I think we would have had a much better chance at winning and just getting in that way. Because Tyler, I think the only guy that was noticeably faster in us in that race,

AJ was very good obviously. He won. Tyler was a little bit better than us, but he was just chasing points too to get safe because he had a little buffer to the cut line. And if we just did the opposite of Tyler, I think we would have been in AJ's position late and had a shot to win. So, you know,

looking back, What do you do you chase the win if you're 29 points out? You know, I think is where Cindrick's at. Like, yeah, I think that guy's, I think he's got to go for the win. Yeah, it's going to be fun. I agree. Good weather. I haven't looked yet.

I haven't looked at it. I assume. Yeah. I hope. It's cool at all fair this week. I think it's going to be 70 degrees all week. I looked at it. I'm going to Nashville when we leave here.

And it was 90 degrees there yesterday and it's 75 today. Yeah. Yeah. Honestly, this next week, that's what's coming here. It looks great, man. Friday 71, Saturday, 77. Thank God. Sunday 78 all sunny.

I did that damn weather monsoon race that's roval and I'll never want to ever. I'm headed to South Georgia to visit a couple farms and I'm actually going back to my hometown. Oh, Waterman and Capital of the World. Farms off Lansford Road, North Carolina, which is literally 10 minutes from where I live. So yeah, it's a way fun. Fun week. Wish you guys best. Thanks for listening.

Andrew, thanks for, I don't know. What'd you do? I don't know. Not really. Not really much. They pay you double. They get like a bonus for doing that. I'm working overtime.

Yeah. Oh, I'm sure. I'm glad you're available and your busy schedule this morning to go over here. You guys, your people had to talk to my people.

You guys futz around the playhouse up there you got now. That's that's how you were doing. Yeah. I was lounging on the couch. They got watching the tinker for sports betting. The room, all the,

have you seen that room they got it? It's ridiculous. It's like, it's like a gigantic playground. Yeah, it's a gigantic playground for these guys. We got the bouncy castle going up. They're only mad.

They're only mad because they got to be here and work right now. They're getting ready to go down. there and screw off again. Ryan scooters around. I'm getting ready to go down there and remove all your lips macks and coughs and toe clearings and that's what I'm about to get ready to do for the next six hours. Don't worry. I'm Mark.

Hey, Jay, go f*** yourself too. You had five coughs to Brett's too. In the first minute. You stopped counting after B. Once we started BS, you stopped counting apparently. Really?

Did Brett have more? No, I'm just saying that both of them I thought had more. Mine's cleared. Mine's cleared up. I thought my back. next week Lee Diffy Bob Pockris

be a big show maybe our biggest show of the year yeah I would say it'll be fun yeah we're gonna what I want to do

I had Jordan Bianchi gave me a great idea yesterday he said that we should pit NBC versus Fox

with Bob just do some fun table decor making a debate yeah actually could be kind of fun all right

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