Door Bumper Clear - 359 - COTA & Connor Zilisch: Just Admit When You F*** Up

Episode Date: March 3, 2025

Connor Zilisch joins Freddie Kraft, Tommy Baldwin, and Karsyn Elledge on Door Bumper Clear this week. The group unpacks the action from COTA, including: Connor's first Xfinity win of the season, his Cup debut, Chastain refusing to comment on his lap 1 Mellon-bomb move on Chase Elliott, brilliant pit strategy from Joe Gibbs Racing, NASCAR not policing track limits in turn 6, and more. Plus find out why Tommy damn near gave Freddie a heart attack on the show. You won't want to miss this one.Timestamps:15:30 - Spot On/Spot Off39:28 - Reaction Theatre 47:45 - #AskDBC51:55 - S*** Show Hall Of Fame1:00:00 - DBC PicksDirty Mo Media is launching a new e-commerce merch line! They’ve got some awesome Door Bumper Clear merch on the site. Visit shop.dirtymomedia.com to check out all the new stuff.FanDuel Disclaimer: Must be 21+ and present in select states. Gambling Problem? Call 1-800-GAMBLER or visit FanDuel.com/RG.  Want more DBC? Check out and subscribe to the new DBC YouTube channel! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

The following is a production of Dirty Mode Media. Should we just go back to being assholes? Yeah, that's what we are, right? Let's continue being an asshole. I am probably closer to Tommy than anybody else in this sport. What the fuck are you talking about? I think the two of you definitely have being assholes covered. Who can really be a bitch when they want to be a bitch?

That's the first person to come to money. I try to stay calm. Here's what pisses me off about that. What is that supposed to be? Exactly what I said. Who are you? Who are you? Well, fuck it.

I guess we'll just go back to being ourselves. Yeah, we'll buckle up because you might get you feeling. Yo, what's up, everybody? Welcome to Door Bumper. Clear. I'm Freddie Craft. Spotter for Bubba Wallace and Dean Thompson, who told me to shut the fuck up this week.

Really? I got a bone to pick with Dean. You should have listened. Maybe we'll get him in the shit show list of the week. Where was he running when they told you that? Oh, wait. Am I, Tom? You're still Tom.

I'm Tommy Baldwin from Rick Ware Racing, competition director. War room? War room. It was awesome, It was pretty cool to be in that room with all the information being supplied and what we did. The team executed really good.

I guess we'll talk about that later. But let's go back. What happened to Dean? I don't know. I really don't know. Where was he running? Not well. Okay.

Is that 20th? 15, 16. So he's frustrated? No, I think it was a little bit of heat related. He was not feeling well. Needs to go to the gym? I mean, the guy spends a lot of time in the gym. I don't know what happened there,

but maybe knocked a crush panel out or something. Who knows? In case anyone who cares. There's two other people here. Carson Ellage, marketing and partnerships for the car store. Oh, you got a title now?

I do, I do. What was it? You have a title. Partnerships and Marketing Manager. Hey. So after the show last week, you finally went up to. Yeah, I had to go straight up to HR and be like,

yo, what are we calling me now? I got an intro myself on DVC every week. What the hell of my title? It doesn't even say that yet. It says title. I know. Alex doesn't even know. Okay.

Well. You want to introduce our guests? And more important news. We have a special guest today who did not bring me a Red Bull as requested but Connor you requested Always I always request I have like 20 cases

I've given all Tommy's kids half my Red Bull But I wonder why their legs keep shaking No wonder why they keep driving through people Yeah Connor Zilich Welcome back to DVC You're one of our adopted children I have the last call you and your

partner in crime there Jesse Hell of a weekend for you I guess basically Hero to Zero Win on Saturday Dead last on Sunday but that doesn't really tell the whole story. How was your weekend? Yeah, it was fun.

You know, got to make my cup debut, which was really cool and win the Xfinity race. Obviously wish I got to make it to the end of the cup race, but it was fun while it lasted. Yeah, I mean, break down, obviously, the Xfinity race. I thought about this, first of all, how much going into the, you start on the pole, you're driving down into turn one.

Do we have any flashbacks of 2024? I sure. I broke earlier than everyone around me. I wasn't going to be the one to do that again. and I made sure of that. But yeah, it was a good race. I mean, I got that pit road penalty coming to the pits in stage one. I, you know, it was 0.9, I think, too early before I hit the line and the caution come out.

So I had to start stage two from the tail and made my way through the field and, you know, made it to the lead with 10, 12 laps to go in the race. So, yeah, it was a lot of fun. I'm kind of, you know, frustrated that I had to do all that work. It was a little bit more than I was wanting to do. But, you know, we had a really fast car and was able to get back to the front. So, you know, as frustrating as it was. I think you were the only one that was frustrated about it because I think the rest of us got to enjoy a hell of a show.

I think some other people were frustrated. Well, Corey Heim was probably a little upset about it. And there was a couple others, maybe we can get to – we'll have like an apology tour for Connor at the end of this thing. I think I saw a tweet where somebody was like, does Connor understand that we're like glad when he gets sent to the back? Because we all get to watch it. Yeah. Great show. I wanted to say, though, you do have, after the truck race last year, the Xfinity race this year and the cup race this year, you have to have the most passes in the history of that race track.

Oh my gosh. There's no way I don't. I mean, you come through the field of the truck race at least once. I mean, I forget what the number was last year. I know we went back and looked it up. I should have looked it up today. But Xfinity race, you had to pass the whole field. The cup race, you pass basically the whole field again.

Just an really impressive show. Talk about the cup race. You know, even just preparing. You know, you're going to a place that none of us have essentially ever race down. before I mean we've we've all been Dakota but not that course so how hard is it to prepare for that you know where or is it even a benefit to you where now you're kind of on the same playing field as everybody else yeah it's so tough to you know hop in a car that you've never driven before when you're racing against guys that you know have 500 cup starts under their belt and they've been

running this car for four years and you know I'm coming in and you know no no testing at all just kind of cold turkey into practice and we're not really good in practice really loose I everybody fought that we all expected it to have the track to have way more grip than it did I think every but every single team fought the same thing so it's kind of just a matter of who was able to you know get the closest come race time and we struggled in practicing qualifying started the race 14th and turn one I yeah just turn one happened at Cota everybody thinks oh my gosh I'm going to get to the bottom and then next thing you know you're six wide and everyone's reckoned so got caught up in turn one

Cut her right front. Went to the tail at the end of, or beginning of stage one had to pit. And then, yeah, was able to drive through the field in stage two. Our car was really good. We were super fast. And, you know, I wish we could have seen the race play out because I feel like we had a shot at a top five and, you know, a really good finish.

So a little frustrated with that, but still, you know, getting to make my cup debut. So it could all in, enjoy it. It was really cool, really cool day. Red Bull car looked good out there. I haven't seen one of those out in a while. Yeah, that one restart, we took to stage points in stage one, us and Joey, and then you were right there, the three of us left, head road together. And I think we were the last three or four cars, basically.

And we started making a little bit of progress. We passed four or five guys, and I'm looking. And Joey's right in front of us. I'm like, oh, that's good. I said, where the hell did Connor go? And I'm like, this little motherfucker is like 10 cars ahead of us now. I'm like, he's hauling ass. But, yeah, so it sucks.

It got derailed. But it was obviously an impressive weekend for you. Thomas, how did your race go from the old war room? Hey, you know, I felt as a team, we executed well. We had him, what, I think 17th or 18th with 12 to go with the best tires, you know, better than anybody in front of the, you know, in front of him. And I don't know what happened, man. He was fighting lost a grip all day, all weekend, and just, you know, race his way back to where he was racing, 31st, 30th. And it's where we ended up.

But it was a clean weekend. I was proud of the guys because they executed well, put him in good position. And that's all you can ask for, right, as a team. No problems. Pick crew did well. So it is what is on to Phoenix. Yeah, one thing we did not have was a clean weekend. I mean, Bubba probably still had his best road course weekend of the year until about 15 to go.

Does he know what I call him? I don't think I think he did tell. I think me and you told him somewhere at one point. Emerson, Phippoldy. And I couldn't believe. I don't know. I think it was because Corey Lejoy was in the war room with me. We were going, you know, we spent the race together going to roll, analyzing all the data and working on everything.

thing. And then I was like, he was like, how about Bubba? I'm like, I don't know where he came from, but I'm sure Emerson's coming back some part of this race. And there he was. He, you know, he put, he's put a lot of effort in. He was, he was pretty good last year. Tyler Redick helped him a lot, obviously, coming over there and just, you know, being somebody that you can, you know, gauge yourself against. Obviously, it worked out in qualifying. I thought it was really funny watching back the top of the TV broadcasts of the qualifying laps and we're following Reddick and he kind of blows turn one a little bit and we get a little closer

than we wanted to but Harvick is never like, yeah, look at this guy's making you know, Bubba's trying to follow him but now Tyler's making way too many mistakes and at this point he's hurting Bubba and this is not going to be what they planned on and then they cross the line they're like oh shit their first and second like but yeah our race went

really well we plan on getting stage points in that first stage. He obviously made a mistake got a course cutting penalty run in second but you know it only dropped us back to about eighth or ninth we still cycle back to the he'd won the stage. And then we were in position. We were right there.

We pitted on that last yellow. Put tires on. We were 20th or 21st. And I think we probably easily would have drove to the top 10. Unfortunately, he hit the damn choose cone, which I don't know how the fuck that happens. He couldn't see it, I guess, with the glare. I don't know if the glare was bad for anybody else. But then just kind of compound some mistakes and got behind, spun out in the last lap.

Still a good day for us, 30 points. I think we had top 10 points on the day. So that's a good day for us. but it could have been a lot better for sure. My question to you, Connor, is the SMT showed a lot of guys not even hardly on throttle all through the corners. Was the thought process when you first unloaded that you had to drive the hell out of these cars? And how much did you have to slow down that process come Sunday from Saturday morning

of what you had to do your pedals? What did you have to do? What did you have to do differently from Saturday to Sunday? Yeah. the biggest thing for me was the sim to the track like when I was in the sim it was you know a lot of grip I think in the sim we were you know a good bit faster than we were at the racetrack so I showed up and I think everybody we went into turn two on our first lap and I think the whole field about wrecked because we thought there was going to be all this grip and then we went out and there was nothing

so yeah you just we just didn't have a lot of high speed stability anywhere you know we couldn't carry any throttle through you know turn two or the carousel you're having to underdrive it a lot to make any speed, especially in practice. I felt a lot better in the race, but in practice I was hanging on to it. And I talked to like Kyle Bush before the race, and I was like, you know, how's your car? And he's like, dude, when I unloaded, I went out and like, there was about three times. I about wrecked. And I was like, yeah, I know I was the same way and all my teammates were.

So, yeah, I think it definitely caught us by surprise. But, you know, that track, I will say, I did like. you know, 6A was such a good passing zone. Like I didn't have any trouble passing coming to the field. Like I've always watched these races and, you know, I've watched Kyle at Watkins Glen. He sped on pit road or something. And, you know, when I was spotting for him and he got stuck in like outside the top 20 and just couldn't make any moves. And I never felt like I was stuck. Like I always felt like I was able to get by guys. And, you know, I never felt like I couldn't make moves. So that was one thing that I was kind of surprised by is how well I was able to race through the field. And I didn't have any trouble getting through the field.

So I was pleasantly surprised by that. And, you know, just able to, you know, kind of maneuver through people and outsmart guys. A lot of the guys let me by. Like when I got to Blaney, he completely pulled over and let me go. I was like, okay, that's nice of him. So, yeah, it was a fun day getting a race against a lot of guys. I grew up watching on TV and, you know, definitely learned a lot, but wished I could have made it to the end.

Yeah, you mentioned Kyle Busch in there. and I mean, what a day for him. I mean, he's still, every once in a while, he'll just remind you that he's still Kyle Busch. When his shit is right, his shit is right, and he's going to out-drive most people. I mean, look, I have, I've said a lot of stuff about Kyle, right? And I stick to how I say and what I say about what he does, how he goes about certain things. But when he gets in that race car, he's one of the best race car drivers in the world. I mean, end of the story.

You can't say anything about that. But, yeah, he drove the wheels off at the... Talk about tires. What'd you think of the tires? I thought Goodyear brought a great tire. Yeah, I thought it was really good. We went out in the first practice, and I was like, oh my gosh, this is like before we put any rubber on the track. And another thing to think about is we were on the track after the MSA cars, so we were on Michelin rubber, so we didn't know what it was going to be like.

And the first practice session, I had like over two seconds of fall off, almost three, and I was like, wow, this is going to be a tough race. Like, that was only 10 or 11 laps. And then the second run when we went out and we had a little bit more rubber on the race track, cut that in half. So it was a little bit more manageable and better. But yeah, I thought the tire was really good. You know, it had a decent enough fall off to where you had to manage it and you couldn't just run 100% the whole time. But it wasn't to the point where, you know, you were hanging on to the thing by the end of a run. So, yeah, I was able to, you know, like I said, make my way through the field without overdoing it and,

you know, felt like I had a really good long run car. And, you know, that definitely played to my advantage. I was able to make moves later into a run when other guys were struggling more. And, you know, I think that's something that they need to have at all the road courses. There has to be an element of fall off that, you know, if you can save your stuff at the front end of a run, it has to be better at the back end. So, yeah, I did think the tire was actually really good. And you saw that at the end of the race, you know, when them guys came and like chase and them guys put tires on, they restarted 20th and were able to drive.

You know, you got to have those comers and goers. You got to have tires make a difference where, you know, a lot of times, you know, years past, you without the fall off, everybody's just going to stay out at lap with 12 to go, and nobody's going to pass anybody, you know? And now, like, you got Chase, you had guys like Bowman who got Bowman. I mean, he made an unbelievable comeback.

I mean, every time I looked, he was starting from last again, and all of a sudden I looked at the end of the race. I had he get the ninth. Yeah, there was, but you saw some guys, you know, SVG, one of them, you know, they were there, but they kind of faded because they didn't have the title.

They were the back half of that group, or the fast group, I should say, I mean, he's still, I think, the top 10, right, SVG? But, you know, but they definitely lost contention for the win there. And it's just now you're going back, you know, we see more guys take tires. But it was just nice to see differing strategies pay off where you had comers and goers at the end of the race

and it made a difference whether you came down pit road or not. The end of the day, those are the four things that are touching the racetrack. We need to keep working on those four things to make our racing better. And yesterday proved it. Yeah. Keep softening the tire. Oh, yeah. I mean, and you saw, we'll talk about it spot on spot off,

but two. lap difference probably won the race. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. I think it was, that's when they had a 20 car pitted, what, two or three laps later than the eight. You all ready for spot on, spot off? Let's do it. Unless you want to talk about cars tour? We had a great weekend, a new river all-American speedway.

I mean, it really was cool. Obviously, the pro race kind of was disappointing that we had to toss somebody, but rules or rules. And it was cool. T.J. She didn't care. Oh, no, DQ. T.J.

Left side weight. Poor guy. But. So explain how what that stupid rule is, by the way. There is a threshold. She's marketing, bro. She's probably not tech.

Did I hear offensive, first of all? You guys are the only tour. I'm just trying to bail you out here so you don't have to get too technical. No, I don't want to. You guys are the only ones that put the car

on the scales without filling the cars back up with the fuel. I'm going to just decline to comment on that one. There's a threshold. A rule's a rule. Suck it. I don't care. Three guys.

A girl, Jade, and those two guys raced a hell out of each other. Put on a great show and to ruin it. The same. Only one of them was cheap. Stupid rules.

I didn't see you in our pin area. Don't cheat. Don't cheat. That's what a cheater would say over there. Fill the car is up. You can tell which one the crew chief is at the table. No shit. All right.

Anyways. Spot on. Spot on. Did you want to go first on this one? I think he's a whiny bit. That's what I think. Send it. Why me?

Topic one. A great pit strategy call puts Christopher. What page are we on? I'm so sick of you already. A great pitch. All right, great pit strategy call puts Christopher Bell in position to make a late race pass for the lead on Kyle Bush. Bush pitted lap 70, Bell on lap 72. Spot on, spot off.

Tommy, you're feeling opinionated already. Let's get into it. Yeah, I mean, I think they did that last year too, right? And they almost pulled it off. And with the tires being a little bit softer and having a little bit more where with the speed he had, It was a really good decision that the team made. I mean, look, everything that group or the top groups do it, it's always calculated, right? They always know what to do when to do it.

And the Gibbs group seems to do it more than others. They have always a really, really good game plan on knowing exactly how many seconds they need to be behind getting beat up with old tires. So when they pit, they can make it out. by two to go, they know or three to go, they know where they're going to be. I mean, they do such a good job of calculating that strategy. It's awesome. And again, yesterday I feel that's what won it for him. Yeah, obviously, I've sat on here for a while that gay part, I felt like, is one of the guys

that doesn't react to what other people do. He does what other people do. He just kind of, this is what I'm doing. I know my optimum pit lap is this, and obviously you're basing it off of how fast they're going, but, you know, we're talking in the group text about last night, and Tim's just like, yeah, would it have worked out if, they didn't catch a caution. Well, they're kind of banking on that caution. You know, they may or may not get there. No, they would have. I mean, fought in a lap times. It was, it was, but I'm saying

Kyle built a five-second gap in, in those two laps that they, you know, they switched. But Christopher would have gotten to him, I think, even if he doesn't, they're still breaking even on where they were. Yeah. But now if you catch a caution and erase that five-second gap, but at that point, when it is green, again, they're calculating. Oh, yeah. Look, you don't have to be a half a second faster lap right now. Just give me a second. 10th. You know, just give me a little bit. Don't burn your stuff up in case the late caution comes and everyone puts tires on and it forces us to make a decision we don't want to make. So it's all calculated. I mean, they do a great, great job that group of calculating

races and look, you got to have fast enough cars in order to do that, right? I mean, you know, you know. And how hard is it as a driver, Connor, you know, you're, say you're in Chris Rebell's position where they're going to leave, we're going to leave you out long and you're going to bleed here for a little while, but I promise, you know, how hard is that to get in the mindset of like or just you get in the mindset of I just got to push make the best lap time I can and just keep this gap as tight as possible so it pays off on the other side. Yeah, it's tough. You got to think long term though. Like you I am always the guy I want to be on offense. I don't want to be, you know, the Kyle Bush that's having to defend the lead for

eight laps, 10 laps with older stuff. And that's one thing Kyle did a really good job of that. Like I was sitting in the hauler watching the race after I was, you know, wrecked out. And, you know, he did everything he could to, you know, keep them back and didn't overdo it. But Christopher drove a really smart race as well. You know, he didn't over push his limit, right? He knew he had time to get by and knew that the tire strategy would pay off. And he was forcing Kyle into mistakes, and, you know, Kyle was pushing his stuff harder than he needed to. And, yeah, it paid off for Christopher, and you could see Kyle fade the last five, six, seven lapsed that race.

He really had nothing left. So, yeah, really good job by Christopher to, you know, keep Kyle on his toes and force him mistake and, you know, capitalized on it when it came. I think the 24 probably drove the best race out of everybody. I mean, he was, didn't, just kept his boundaries, right? Just took position when he could, didn't force it, never tried to spin the tire, never tried to do anything. You never seen his car getting out of control until in the last lap or so trying to get

to Bell, but he did an awesome job as well as controlling the situation. Him end of 45, I mean. Yeah, that whole group, I saw one picture. It's awesome. I saw a picture, I don't know, maybe it might have been break, or somebody, but they had a, it was like the top four were like in a, like a just an offset line getting in the corner with, I mean, I don't know, inside five to go. I mean, it's just a phenomenal race.

And really, kudos to Kyle and Christopher for the way they race each other. All four of them. Yeah, but I mean, just saying like for the lead, you know, we've seen guys lately and we've heard a lot of people bitching about hosts of our last week and now Ross this week about the way people race, especially at the end of these races. And these guys put on a clinic yesterday of how the right way to do it was and not not just blow each other off their age track. Kyle was pretty aggressive, but I mean, he's hanging off all he can.

Yeah, but he didn't run into anybody. No, I mean, he kind of ran into him one time. Yeah, well, when you complete sideways and put him no tires, I don't think you have a choice. But yeah, I mean, he doesn't do anything wrong. He's just, I mean, and he doesn't know, you know, for a guy that missed a playoffs last year, that might have been his only shot, you know, but, you know, but the way he would look yesterday, it was pretty solid. But yeah, but I thought that was just a clinic on how to do it.

How about the, Tim's has got it right here. I did see a lot of complaints. about the Fox coverage yesterday. And we're looking at the grandstands as the two guys pass each other for the lead. You can tell. The guy fall off the back of the grandstands. I don't know. Where to go?

Tommy thought they ran on the fence right now. Yeah, I was watching the same thing. And I'm like, did them guys go off the track? What happened? And Corey, like I said, he was in a war. He goes, no, there they are. Oh, my goodness. It's tough break.

I think they lost, like, Cam. cameras or something because I feel like they had to have a camera that, you know, could see that. I think they just cut to the wrong angle. I don't know. I couldn't. We never saw that grandstand all race until the moment. I almost feel like that's like the like a helicopter or some of drone or something because it's not, it's obviously not a fixed camera somewhere.

It's just, it's kind of moving with them. Somebody in the production truck hit the wrong button. Oh, it's probably maybe, I don't know. It's just not, it's not ideal for the, what you want to see for the battle for the league. The best part, another good part was. the two wives showing the video of that. Oh, yes, man. What corner is that? Is that in the stadium section?

You know who probably needed that camera? Was Zillich when he just destroyed Haim right there. Oh, thanks. Oh, boy. That would have been a good time for that camera to pop up. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you had to pop up not to see it. Oh, shit, I don't know what happened. No proof.

All right. Ross Chastain makes a dive bomb move, lap one, turn one, and turns Chase Elliott around, causing damage to multiple cars. He declined to comment. on the incident post race. You think? Well, it's interesting

because he was one of the first ones in line to tell Josevar what a dumb ass he was last weekend. Where is he right now? He's right behind Kyle. He's gonna... He's 10. He was coming through the lead.

There he is right there. He's second. Where am I doing? Now he's looking Jay Zellied in the eyes. Where are you at, Connor? Oh, right there. He's way out there. I'm like four wide.

You lost a lot of stuff. Right front's gone. Yeah, everything's called. I was glad it was just right front. I wasn't glad because I wanted to beat you. He's ninth right there. Hosevar trying to get to our right rear. I thought it was totally.

Yeah, when you went by me, I thought everything was broke. Like the right front was bouncing around, but I guess it was just over the curbs. I just don't understand where he's going. Like that's not, that's just such a low percentage move on the first lap of the race. Like if that's a green white checker, I still don't really give him a break, but I think that hat he was wearing pre-race, tightens his head up a little bit. The thing that pisses me off about it is like, why are you declining to comment. Like why can't you just get out of the cards? Because you know you fucked up. Yeah, why can't,

why can't you just get out of the car and say I fucked up? Like, everybody knows you fucked up. Nobody, you can't deny it. So like, why just say, why not just say, my bad, I fucked up? Like, what's so hard about that? Well, I mean, obviously, yeah, you've made mistakes. You got out of the car and, you know, what was your comments after the race? You know, you made mistakes on Saturday. Yeah. Like, what, like, where were you at there? I heard that you talked to Corey immediately after the race was over. Yeah. No, I mean, I got out and said that I fucked up. Like, it's pretty simple. You know, I don't know what Ross is, I doubt it was Ross's decision not to talk, but, you know, I definitely think that it's worth getting out and just owning up to it, right? Because, you know, in the long run, that's going to pay off for you and be the best decision.

And, yeah, I got out and I was in victory. And honestly, it's tough for me to celebrate wins like that because, you know, you ruined someone else's race or, you know, did something that caused, you know, especially my teammates, right? I felt that's what I felt worse about, worse about is, you know, the incidents I had with my teammates. So even just today in the post-race meeting, just owning up to it and say, look, guys, I've, you know, made mistakes that I'm just going to do my best not to make again. And, you know, I definitely, you got to own up to those things. And, you know, that's the best way to handle it, I feel like. I thought it was maybe a blessing of disguise, Tommy, because I feel like this never happened the rest of the day. You know, I mean, I don't remember anybody else really just blowing through turn one and running anybody.

over the rest of the day, you know, over here. Like, I feel like we see us every restart in years past, and it seemed like maybe this was like, okay, now we don't want to be that guy. Yeah, I think finally everyone said enough's enough. I mean, what are we doing? I mean, we just ruining the race and ruining ourselves and ruining it for everybody else. So it's just, you did mention teammates.

And I did want to give a shout out to Carson Quaple because I think everybody knew going into this year you were going to excel at road courses. I did not have him being the one to challenge you at Coda on my bingo card. And I don't think he has any, like, you know, road racing background. He did the T.A.2 race here the year before, but still, like, I was really impressed with, you know, just how, I knew he was going to be good, right? He was good in the T82 stuff. He's done, you know, quite a few races last year in the year before, I think. And, you know, he's, he's, yeah, he's gotten a hold of it quick. Newsflash. The kid's good. He's good. He's going to be just fine. Yeah, no, he's good. He picks up

very well, and obviously he had a lot of data to look at the kid across the table from us. Oof. Yeah. I was like, I saw the spin. I didn't obviously couldn't, I was down in turn 12. And if guys were just coming by me, Denny come by, no fender, Connor come by right front hanging off, felt like the 54 obviously had damage. It's twice in the row now. Twice this year, 54's up in the air. Oh, damn. We got to figure out of the ground. What happened with Denny? He took out somebody. The three. He got, he got, I think he got. So when they stopped calling the turn limits or when everybody realized they stopped calling the turn limits or when everybody realized they stopped calling the turn. track limits in six. Everybody got back to like we were doing, I think it was eight last year, where you just

run off the fucking race track and throw all the dirt on the track. And I think he just got in the dirt. We got loose. And lost it. And just teaboned. How about the two? Yeah. Which incident are you talking about?

Because there's a one on the front stretch where he just right hook to 10 for some reason. Yeah, I don't, I mean, if you're going by the letter of the law of what you've done in the past, that is suspension worthy. it's obviously a road course so maybe it's judged a little bit differently but you still right hooked the guy towards a wall, collected whoever that is,

innocent bystander. Was that Ross? I don't know. That might maybe not so innocent. He was going to say he doesn't classify he doesn't classify as an innocent bystander. Oh no, I think it's a 38 maybe.

Yeah, he went around. Oh. No, Zane. But I mean, like, Tommy said beforehand, what were you saying before about the two?

I mean, just two weeks before of frustrations of getting taken out and getting roughed up. He's not in the front right there. Obviously, he's in the back, racing against guys.

He probably hasn't raced against all year long so far, and he's getting moved around a little bit. It don't take much for that needle to pop, you know? I was surprised. They seemed to struggle as a whole yesterday, at Penske. You know, we were, when we restarted back there for the stage win, and then, you know, some of the penalty stuff, they were all back there together, like the three of them.

I think at one point in the end of the race, it was the 22 to 12, and two right in front of us for like 25th maybe or something like that. They seemed to struggle as a whole. But they understood it. And both the 22 and the 12 capitalized on it on a couple stages, right? They gained some points. They knew obviously they were going to run probably 15th to 20th, but if they can steal some stage points,

it's like being in the top 10, and they did their job. Yeah. All right, NASCAR removes the tire pack in the S's before the cup race that were designed to self-police track limits, spot on, spot off. You were just kind of talking about this, Freddie, but... Yeah, I mean, they removed it. Was this a decision where you, I mean, were you involved in this decision? No, but I heard about it.

So we all did the track walk, right? And there were, you know, Larson, Byron, Allgaier, a couple other guys went up in the hall and were like, look, like, if we hit this, like, they're going to slide onto the racetrack. Like, because they were, like, 400 pounds. Like, they were not just like a plastic barrier that was going to, like, you know, fly out of the way. Like, it was a solid. You're going to end your day if you hit that. And, you know, if you hit it onto the racetrack. then you're ending someone else's day and you know there's a chance for a lot of chaos so um it was the

best i mean the best decision nascar could have made right i don't know that that would have been a great solution to their to their issue um i feel like they did do um a good job you know not i don't want to say over policing the the s's but i feel like i never saw any like judgment calls. They were cutting some slack on some guys, and I feel like giving you a kind of a first chance if you messed up. But, you know, I don't know.

There was a few guys that, you know, Larson got called for it, Bubba, I think. I don't know that we ran a lap in practice because I think we got called for turn five every... I got called for it three times in practice. I think every one of our lapses might have got deleted in practice because Bubba just couldn't hit turn five. I think the last 15 of your laps in a race,

you got called on something. That's probably true. Yeah. I agree. Like, I feel like the... I didn't mean to call. cut you off. But like I want something there. Like I feel like I want something there. But to your

point, like, it's an if you get forced out there, you know, if you're, if you got on the S is on a restart, late in the race or whatever and you get forced into, you know, missing the track limits, it's not a penalty. But if you got forced out there with this fucking thing sitting there, the day's over. We can't take that back.

So, you know, I want, I wish there was something you could put there or just make it so it's not paved and it's not faster to go through, you know, cut the track. But I think you, you could, not have those tire packs out there. I think the best, you know, solution would be to put gravel, like, you know, have CODA. I know it's tough because F1 goes there.

We're not F1, but, you know, if they could do something, I think a turtle, I don't, I know they had that the first year and the cup cards were really rough over them, but I feel like we've gotten closer on, you know, safety-wise to where it might be a little bit more feasible. But, yeah, it's tough to, it's really, it's so tough. NASCAR, no matter what NASCAR does, they're never going to be right. So, you know, I feel like that's one of the things that, you know, they just kind of got to take their, you know, lick their wounds and, you know, police it themselves. Yeah. Did you feel like they should have called track limits in six?

I know, I mean, I didn't know. I assumed it was three through six. You're saying beforehand, we kind of were told it was not six, but nobody really trusted. Yeah. Yeah. No, they told us at the beginning of the weekend when they took the tire, the barriers away, they were going to, you know, they said, yeah, we're doing three, four, and five. And everyone's like, well, what about six? And it was kind of like a confused answer.

Like, oh, well, 6A, there's a tire pack. And we're like, no, like 6, like the last part of the S. And like, no, we're not going to call that. And in practicing qualifying, they never called it. And in qualifying, I think everyone was so scared to just cut the track because they didn't want to be the one that got called for it. But yeah, I mean, they never called us for it. And then halfway through the cup race, I think Kyle Bush was on the radio and was like,

are they calling turn 6? Because I think everyone started cutting it. And it was worth like three or four tents to just get your left sides off the Rumbles trip because there's so much more grip just on the paint if you got all four tires down there. And yeah, it started getting more and more and more out of hand. And by the time I got back to the hauler and was sitting in the car, people were sitting in the trailer. They were not even close to the racetrack.

So yeah, it was just a matter of, you know, who's going to push the limit first. And, you know, as the limit started getting farther and farther, people realized, okay, yeah, NASCAR is not calling us. I saw one picture of Bell where they could have run side by side on the other right side of the curb. There was a full car between them and the curb. I mean, I don't understand. I don't understand the thought process of if you're going to call track limit. It's like, why are you just now we're picking and choosing which corners to call?

You know, like then even I saw like 19. You could kind of cut 19 pretty tight and get off the trip. Yeah, and the Xfinity car especially. The cup car was tougher because, you know, there was a big, they put really soft dirt down at the, like, where the grass started in 19. and, you know, as the race went on, the hole got bigger and bigger, and it got to the point where, you know, Suarez ended up, you know, hitting it and, you know, gotten the rub block and spun out.

So it kind of self-policed itself in the cup car, but in the Xfinity car, there were lapsed I was four in the grass. Yeah. Like, not even on the racetrack. But the cup car was a lot tougher because you're so much lower. And, yeah, you can't really afford to hit that hole. The new short course at Coda produced the best road course racing in next-gen history with 20 lead changes, which is tied for the most in road course history in NASCAR,

spot on, spot off, Tommy. Yeah, I think spot on. I think it was a great race. I loved all the coming and going, and I loved what the drivers, you know, we spoke about it early, what the drivers had to adjust to from when they first unloaded. I think the speed and the, I think we seen the same thing at Watkins Glen, right? That everyone was worried about the tires and the tire wear on Saturday and the extra practice that we had, I think, back then, or from the test.

And then on Sunday, it all went away. Well, we all learned. We all got better. We all got smarter. The drivers got better and they got smarter. It produced some great racing. There was stuff going on. You know, in the war room, we had like two or three in-car cameras that we were watching different parts of the field.

And it was racing going on everywhere. It was really good. I'm sure the fans at the racetrack really enjoyed the race. Yeah. I don't know about how your SIM related to when we got there, but ours was not close. Oh, yeah. No, I was talking to Kyle Busch. And I was like, someone asked, I think it was Byron. They're like, so what did you think of the Sim?

And Kyle's like, why do we even do it? Why do we even do it? I think my guy was kind of as I mean, we were turned up too much. Yeah, we were, I mean, we were seconds off of our expected lap time versus what the lap time actually was. But yeah, I thought it was great. I was concerned because I thought we were removing the best passing zone in 11. but like you said, 6A produced a similar area where you could kind of dive bomb in there

and put a guy in a bad position where he's got a lift and then you got position for 6B and then you're gone again. But I thought it was, you know, the only race that might even rival it as the best next gen would be the 23 Chicago race at SVG one,

but that was not such a great track. I mean, it was a great finish with him and Justin, but there's a lot of shit that happened in that race. But this was, I think, on track, probably the best next gen race. Yeah, there were a lot of passes throughout the field. Like, I was, that's one thing. I, I've watched the cup races before, and I've always seen guys, you know, struggling to make moves, but I had no trouble getting to the

field, which I thought was really good. You had any trouble passing any cars on a road course in any division. I had one, I did have, by four, since you were four years old. I did have one issue with the short course. How many fucking turn sixes did we need yesterday? Three of them. Like, what's wrong with, I mean, I know eventually. Put a turn seven in there. It's like the exits on. the expressway, on the Island Expressway, right? When they jump the exits. Like, like, can't they go in order?

No, we can't. We go from 62 to 68, you know? It's like, all right, I'm over here in six, now six A, now six B. What, like, what? Like, I know. Just do seven and eight. Yeah, like, eventually we got rid of. Well, there's seven and eight somewhere else on the course, right?

Yeah, but I mean, eventually we got rid of that at Watkins Glen, right? Forever it was like, we just counted the boot. And then the last two turns were always 10 and 11. And then, like, I don't know, five, six years ago, they just became six and seven. So if we can do it there, we can do it anywhere. It just seemed like wonky to go from, all right, we're in six, now we're in 12. Okay, whatever.

Oh, wait. Come on. Oh, come on, Carson. Get your shit together. I'm supposed to ask myself. What page are we on? Yeah, well, I'm supposed to ask myself. I'm not.

Oh, do you want me to? No, nothing has me fired up except Tommy. Tommy has you fired up today? Tommy always has me fired up. No, really. Is that it? Nothing has me upset today. Come on.

I have such a nice shirt on. I'll tell you what had you fired up yesterday. I could tell a little bit in the group text. How was Chris Wright's Twitter going for him yesterday? Oh, man. Bless his heart. Is he still on? What would we call on it?

That's like when Connor was saying earlier, like you just own up to it and say he fucked up. The more you bring up receipts and try to defend yourself. The one thing I don't get is I saw something and look, I don't mean anything bad, but at first it was his spotter and then it was his breaks. And then yesterday I saw something he said on Twitter that his throttle had hung at Daytona. Is this all Daytona?

Yeah. And I'm, you got to, if you're gonna, you gotta, you gotta pick one. You gotta pick one. Stick to it.

He's just trying to find something that sticks. But then he posed, I saw some pictures that he posted. He posted a photo trying to prove that Josh Plicky did something. And then that photo actually further proved that he was in the wrong. And everyone's responding like,

bro, you fucked up. And then he turned their replies off, I think I saw. Yeah, then you couldn't reply to the tweet unless he followed you. So. That's a tough.

That's a tough. That's a tough. That's always a taste. tail-tail sign. You turn your comments off. When you're just a note to self, Connor, you're never going to have to worry about this. It's better off to just be quiet and try to get better. Have a slice of humble pie.

Like, just try to fly under the radar and hope to God nobody knows you're out there. I think Balicki was spot on on his comment. Yeah. What he needs to do. I didn't even see. I think he said to go back to vintage right? The vintage? No. To MSA

racing where you can race against Dennis. Yeah. I feel bad. I'll get Baliki credit. He had a pretty decent day going on Saturday. He was... They had a lot of speed. The car, they had some issues.

Joey Campbell was spot and he was sitting next to me. They had some issues getting out on the track. But, you know, he was hanging right in there, you know, just outside the top 10, top 15 for a long time. And then, I don't know, some gremlin. I think he got into it with Chris again and got some damage and I put him behind late in the race. I've worked with him a little bit in the cup car.

He's a pretty good race car driver. I think he proved it a couple, you know, I think two times, right, when he drove for Gibbs. He was capable of top five, top five, top ten. So, yeah, he's a good racer. I'm looking at this bellickey tweet. And any time the eggplant emoji makes an appearance in here, you know it's going to be good.

You know it's, you know, it's probably. But was this what he's talking about from this past weekend? I think this is just a culmination of. Emzo where you can race with doctors and Dennis. That's a pretty crazy ratio. Was he talking about this from Coda? Oh, was it so they told me. again this week. He said every

race this year, Belkeke said basically every race this year he's gotten damaged on his car from Chris Wright. And this week it sounded like Chris maybe lost it and spun out in front of him and Chris is saying that he got loose on the outside of it. Yeah. I think the light count on that post tells the story. One's got 40 likes and the other one has one

1,000. I think you see who people side with. The people have spoken. Hey, it's Dale Jr. And for the latest DBC gear, we need you to go to shop.durtymo Media.com. We've got plenty of options and we're adding new stuff all the time. Shop.Dirtymo Media.com. Well, speaking to people speaking, you're going to get into some reaction theater.

Fans can call in and voice their opinions from this weekend's race. I'm sure we've got some chastain. We didn't talk about. What do you want to talk about, Thomas? I can read today. You didn't even talk about Chase Elliott, how the rebound. Are we on that topic? Oh, yeah, okay.

We were talking about, we should have put it in a Ross one. But yeah, let's talk about it. I mean, that was a, to come from basically the back twice, you know, he was back there with us a couple times. And top five, him and Bowman, I think, had the, the, well, they had to change the tow link on pit road and start last again at the end. I don't even know they changed to. Oh, yeah. Yeah, they did a lot of work. And that was a great comeback.

Like you said, both the nine and the 48, but the nine was impressive. The, I'm sure it's a good segue to reaction theater because I have a feeling the Chase section was probably called in early. To voice their opinions with Ross? Yeah. Yeah, I'm sure to see some good ones. I got a few tweets of what's the number, so this should be good. How many calls do we get? We got eight today.

Well, over in total. Like, I don't know, Alex. What was it? Like 150. Holy-hmm. We've got eight to listen to you today. So you just pick eight? The best eight?

Yeah, the best day. Well, I don't know if they're the best. The most entertaining? The most entertaining, eight. All right. Well, if you picked eight of 150, they got to be pretty good. Well, mid-race, Chase, Sexual Update. We moved from beer to whiskey.

Ross, you drive like a nutless wonder for a year. And of all the people, you decide to dive-bom, chase, lap one, turn one. Mr. Andrews's going to have to have another talk with you. I can see that right now. Nutless wonder. I think it's, I think it's, I thought it was interesting or ironic that, you know, he, Ross obviously has toned it down over the last whatever year, year and a half, and came directly after the darling.

where Mr. H made those comments, and then the first time he goes and kind of wipes somebody out, it's right back to a Hendrik car again. After that road course yesterday, I'm thinking about changing my sexuality. I've been a chase sexual for years now, so my man is not turning me on anymore. My relationship with my wife

was like the guy that caught a couple weeks ago. His wife has Fritz got their bunny wins. I'd be backed up like the first turn at Cody yesterday. Go 20. I thought that was going to be a Zillage fan. I mean, he changed. I'm manufacturing. He went everywhere.

Complete switch out. Go 20. I have the greatest idea ever. After every single race, they need to have like a pit walk with Tommy Baldwin and have Tommy Baldwin go up to guys like Ross Chastain and Carson Hosevar and all these guys and being like, why are you driving like a fucking idiot? I would do it. Tommy does that pretty often, actually. It's just not on television.

We can probably get a camera and a mic. I'm right. Newman. Well, there's plenty more on that list, I promise you. Oh, yeah. It's apologizing to absolutely fucking nobody. Kyle Larson steps on his dick all the fucking time. He's hung money for a fucking reason.

Hell, his picker stepped on his dick as well. Left the damn tire loose. me how you really feel. Big Larson guy. Who needs therapy when you have reaction theater? I was a little confused with that because they was so concerned about the left rear tire issue that the right front fell off. So I don't know.

Did you see his in car with the radio? He was like, I think I got like a tire going down or right front's loose. Oh, there goes my right front. As soon as he was talking about it, and it passed him going to the 12. That was right in front of us at the 12. And I was like, oh, five's got no wheel.

I said, where the hell is the wheel going? I'm like, oh, there goes down straight. I got it went straight down into a. And that runoff, we didn't get a cause. And knowing the damage having to drive that all the way back around to the pit. Was that painful free to watch? Oh, my God. What it causes on the news?

Are you just counting money at that point? I mean, that is easily a $25,000. Half a lap. Half a lap right there of all the damage it caused. And they might have to send that center section back to NASCAR to get re-certified. Yeah, I mean. And now you're going to lose. Somebody gets suspended, right?

Yeah, Jack, man. Jackman, tire guy. Tire changer. Competition director. Competition director. Yeah. God damn, that was a good fucking race. See, that's why you need more road courses on the schedule.

Fuck you, Freddie. I don't give a fuck what you say. You need more road courses. That was a good fucking race. Yeah, more road courses. I'm in. Fuck all y'all. Fuck all the way off.

How's that sound? You don't like road courses? No. Why? No. It's too much extra. It's a driver. He laughs.

Lever since. Yeah. You liked it for two to two. I am fine with, I am fine with He liked it after ball five. You're a good driver. You'd like them. No, fuck that.

I still don't like, because I don't like anywhere I can't see the whole damn track to spot. I don't like to share my job with anybody. But, you know, I'm good with like three or four. Yeah, but all three races, you really haven't seen the whole track spot in anyway.

I mean, that's just because of what happened on Saturday night usually. Yeah, yeah. Got about three quarters of the bottle left and just looked outside and fucking piss. are flying. Hell must be freezing over because fucking Bubba Wallace is on the front row at a road course. Son of a bitch.

Exactly. Yeah, that was, that was. I'm surprised some of these people have the, the awareness to call this phone number after how many things they qualified. That was Saturday. That was nearly a Sunday night. He was on a roll. They were getting their money's worth early this weekend. Yeah, I mean, listen, he's, he has gotten

exponentially better at road course racing. It's just now you've got to clean up the small mistakes and they'll get there. I hope. God, I hope. What's the BBC? The next jam. Because that's all my Kyle Busch fans. Sometimes.

We're in the dog days. Well, this next jam I got to you guys. Just for you guys, take them coaches. I have to put them back to your kitchen counter. maybe next week maybe next week I don't even know what we call them it's our second or third call this year

I need subtitles I can't understand I heard like a toaster I heard something on a toaster and kitchen cabinets Blaney could have been that but that guy called when Blaney was here so I don't think it was him but yeah Blaney's been threatening to call

which he'll never he'll never call Oh he's gonna call I don't know He's gonna call one night I need to call Everybody should call. Just disguise your voice and see if you can figure out it's you or not. That was the last one.

That was the last one. That was good. We're trending down a little bit since the first couple weeks, unless Alex is getting afraid to pick some of the foot job calls. We need to put folks to step it up again and bring it back for where the hell we go next? The week Bubba was here was out of pocket. Phoenix. Oh, God.

Out of pocket. To leave an audio message 24-7, you can call our number at 704-802-9-572. and we'll play the best ones each week on the show. So as Freddie just said, make them good. Yeah, really good. Get wild. Time for. Who the fuck tweeted we only want responsible callers from Dirty Mo Media?

Dalton, we do not want anybody responsible anywhere near this show. If you want to be responsible, go listen to Dale and Danny and all that bullshit. We are the irresponsible ones. What am I doing here? The most irresponsible. We bring responsible guests on trying to bounce it out. You've been on a couple of vacations with me. Oh, yeah.

And the boys, you belong right at the table. You're fine. Y'all want to tell any stories about that while we're here? No. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. He's been my adopted child the last two years on vacation. I want to get on that program. My mom is his number one fan now.

She follows him. All right, it's time for AskDBC. You can sit in your questions on X each week using hashtag AskDBC, and we will answer the best ones. And Freddie, you actually touched on this earlier. So we can expand a little bit now. Should NASCAR suspend Austin Cendrick for hooking Ty Dillon? So obviously I'm biased in this because my guy got suspended for doing this already one time. So I think everybody, if you're going to suspend anybody for right-hooking somebody,

you have to suspend everybody that right-hook somebody. And it's unfortunate. And now it's a much steeper penalty now than it was then. You know, back then you were getting waivers and everything was fine. If you get suspended now, you're losing all your point, you know, you're losing your playoff points and, you know, you're not going to be able to, I forget what the penalty into the playoff. obviously is, but, you know, it's a much harsher penalty now. And this, this was something that they put

in place, hopefully deter stuff like this. And obviously didn't work. How do you, I mean, obviously, you're not thinking about that in the moment. I don't think you're ever going to right hook anybody. Yeah. Just not really. I don't seem like that kind of guy. But like, does that weigh into the idea at all? Like, is that something you're consciously thinking about? Like, I can't do this now. No, I mean, it's such a spur of the moment thing. If you're going to right hook someone, you are, you're not thinking about anything except right hooking that guy. So, Yeah, I mean, it's tough because I'm sure as soon as he did it, he was like, I probably shouldn't have done that. But yeah, I mean, it's part of it.

Don't do it. Should they suspend them? I think if that's the rule, that's the rule. I mean, it is what it is. Do you think it should be judged differently because it's a road course? I mean, it's still the same. Because that's where you create more issues. It could have been a lot of different situations.

And again, I think it was all built into what he's had to deal with the last two races of having the best car for the day. Tony of 500 and in Atlanta and getting dog at the end. I think that frustration got to him. I saw a good question this morning for you, Connor. It came from our buddy Kevin from Virginia. I don't know if you've forgotten to meet Kevin yet, but you'll know him when you see him. He's one of the biggest fans in the sport.

Calls in every serious show and sends us questions every week, sends us DMs about stuff we can do better maybe, which is a lot. But he did, he said something like basically, Like who would you want to be compared to driving style-wise or even personality-wise, you know, in the past or like somebody that you're kind of trying to mold your career after? Man, driving style-wise, I feel like a Jimmy, like a guy who's pretty quiet, but, you know, just gets it done on the racetrack. You know, I feel like he always did a good job of that and super humble and down to earth, it seemed like. And, you know, I feel like he just went out there and did his deal and worked hard.

off, you know, off the track, and I respect that about him. Um, personality wise, um, it's tough. Like, it's a, it's a balance. And, you know, there's guys like Noah that, you know, obviously the fans love them and, but at the same time, you got to, you know, in today's day and age, you got to watch what you're saying, what you're doing. Um, so it's tough. I mean, I like being kind of like that, um, really open to fans and people. Um, you know, I want people to know my, my story, I want them to know the good about me and the bad about me, right? I want people to know all about me. And, you know, I think that's different than a lot of guys in today's age. You know, there's guys like Chase who are a lot more reserved and quiet. But, you know, I'm not scared to

show people the ins and outs of, you know, who I am. But, you know, there's a fine line with that, right? You got to have an understanding of what's the limit. But, you know, I try to be as open as possible. I promise I didn't write that down. He wasn't reading anything I said. I know. I was like, what are you looking at? I thought he was like, did he write this down? What the fuck is he did? I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I don't like making eye contact with you. You're scary. He's scary? Yeah. Yeah, I can be scary at times. Damn. Not once in my life have I ever been afraid of ready. No, well, I guess it's just me. This is just too. All right. It's time for shit show Hall of Fame. We're going to nominate someone each week as we've been doing and fans get to vote on who gets inducted.

The kitty litter dust up from the truck race is last week's winner. Now joining Chris Wright. And I think Chris Wright is a potential nominee. He's got to be on the list. He's got to be on the list, right? He's still leading. He's on the list. Ross has to be on the list.

Riley, actually, Riley, I was in the hall or yesterday, Riley, Hurts volunteered himself because he said, he said, I'm an idiot. And he said I blew turn three in qualifying when I was tracking a top 10 lap. He was going to be like top five and cut the track. He said, he said, so that's one thing. Then he said, I spent on pit road leading a race. So that he goes, I just make me your shit show of the week. So we can add Riley to the list if we want. Connor, I won't put you on the shit show list.

But I mean, do you want to have you sent out all your apologies yet? I'm up there. I wouldn't be upset if you've dominated me. I would have put you on there if you didn't win, but you came back and you made it worth it at least. You won the race. And, you know, like you said, and I appreciate the fact that you said that

because I think a lot of people kind of feel that way, watching, I feel that way a lot of times when, like, if you wreck a guy for the lead, don't do the big celebration. Don't do the big, you know, like the big burnout and the big bow and everything. So I appreciate you saying that. But so who else we got? I don't know if it gets.

I think Chris Wright's still lead. Yeah. You still, all right. Two times. side. Oh, three time. So it's Chris Wright. It's Ross.

I mean, Riley's not going to win. Those two. I mean, there's one other one I could give out or we could talk about here. I don't know if anybody got to watch the Smart Tour race this week. Oh, no. The Baldwin boys kind of created a bit of a shit show at the end of this thing. I didn't get to watch the whole race, but the video I saw Luke is running down Coulter for the lead. And Jack is getting lax.

and then it all just kind of comes together with Luke driving through the back of Coulter. And I think Luke feels pretty bad about it, so I won't pick on him too much. No, he does. It was a big mistake on his part. And obviously him and Joey have talked about it. And Joey's a good guy, man. He races really clean. And unfortunately, we cost not only him the win, Luke finished in second.

And then it put the guys that were not on the same sequence and running in the back the whole race up front to capitalize on Luke's mistake. you know, and it's been a rough day and a half for him, especially coming from me of all the things he has to think about why he's out there on the racetrack, you know, how it changes the race, how it changes the perspective of you, and, you know, what happens next time you know, someone else is going to be behind you,

and, you know, it's just, there's no excuses, right? I mean, it was the 96th lap at Florence with no tire change yet. The right rear tire was down to the canvas on both cars, and you just got to touch somebody, They're going to get spun out. And he even said, look, he says, I was content. I knew I was going to run second. I was not going to be able to get to Joey and pass him.

And even if when I hit him and if he just got sideways, I was going to let off and let him get gathered back up to win. So he thought about some of it. He just lost that split second of the thought process and what he did. Yeah, like you said, they're so on edge of Florence. I mean, Florence is one of the most tire abrasive racetracks you go to. so on edge that the shot you give the guy at lap five, just to move him up maybe a little bit now,

is something that's, you know, he's gonna have no chance to recover from. But that's, you make a good point about, you know, just the repercussions of everything. I talk about this a lot with guys that draw cautions, you know,

like, I get it. It's, it's maybe what you needed at that moment, but now you're just throwing the whole fucking race into chaos because of you, you know, your selfishness of whatever your race needed.

You're now, now you're altering the race for everybody else on the track. And I hate shit like that. But yeah, I obviously have to pick on them. They're my adopted brothers there. I got to give him shit so they don't do it anymore. Also, why is Jack on crutches? What happened to him?

He broke his ankle at App State playing basketball, had somebody roll on it. But he did a good job. I mean, he messed with Newman a little bit and got paid back during the race. Newman stuffed him in, luckily there was no fence. He just stuffed them in the weeds of the backstress. Took the clutch out. You know, going off the backstretched at floors.

It's a shame because Jack had. Jack had pretty good strategy in the beginning and was passing him for, I think, eighth at the time moving forward. And, yeah, you got a little roughed up and didn't understand why, but I tried to explain to him why. So that's not of any Ryan's fault at all. It was Jack caused it and started it, and you just don't do those type of things to a driver like Ryan Newman. There's some drivers in the cup field you can get away with, and some drivers you can't. And again, it's a learning experience for them. And they're young.

You know, that's probably Jack's sixth or seventh modified race ever. Luke has a lot more experience, even though he's three years younger and has a lot more speed right now because of it. But it's going to be fun to watch. It's going to be a fun year. We're excited for the future. You're in for it for sure. I don't know if my wife's blood.

Say, Beth probably does not agree with you. It's not good. Connor, one thing I wanted to ask you about, I meant to bring it up in the track. limits. The Joker deal is obviously way better than the pit road, right? I mean, that's, I think that's a much fair penalty. Yeah, good job NASCAR for that. Because, I mean, we were, we were running second, cut the course somewhere, probably five for the 14th time that week. And I think we re, we regret, you know, came back on the racetrack seventh or eight. Yeah. So, I mean, I think it's just a much more fair penalty versus, I mean, yeah, how many times did you get in the truck race last year?

Yeah, I got twice and did two drive-thrues. Yeah, and that's, I mean, you're coming out, you know, towards the, you know, almost last again, you know, because it's a much bigger time loss. So I thought that was a good call on them. I thought it was really easy to, it was very clear. But the lane was there. You just drive off into 13, stop. Make sure you enter back. There was some guys that screwed up and just kind of hung it right and went back on the track in the middle of 13 and got another penalty for that.

But, yeah, I thought that was a big improvement over just calling out. Yeah, they got that for MotoGP. Really? Really? Really? he does that at Cota for cutting the track. You know, I've got to give the 71 group, did he get penalized at the end there? Because they had some pretty good strategy, a little bit different strategy to get out.

He got a pit road penalty at one point. And something happened later in the race, too, I think. Well, later in the races, I think, what's screwed. I mean, he ended up still with a good finish, but I think they stayed out at the second stage, and they were the only one that did, and they pitted early than most, so they're going to have some pretty good track position. probably by the end he was going to be out of tires. Yeah, I was surprised how fast he fell.

I mean, it just shows how tires mattered again. Like, he restarted the front row, and I think we passed him from restarting last, like, I don't know, maybe 10 laps into that run, five laps into that run, something like that. So, I mean, it was a hard fall. Then he pit right after we passed him and was, you know, going to cycle back through there. But, yeah, interesting day for sure. I think we got a handful of nominees. So remember to go vote on our shit show Hall of Fame Twitter poll. voting. No, the fans. We nominate

So who's leading so far? We don't let's fucking put it up. No, from the last two weeks. Well, so why are you cursing at me? This is why I'm just you cursing at me. I did not curse it. Chris Wright won after Daytona. The kitty litter won after Atlanta. And now

where do you go to that? Twitter. Twitter. Okay. In a dirty mode, Twitter. It'll be up here. Is it up already? We'll tell Kyle to do it for you. Short. It's up now. It's posted. It's live. Just posted. It's live.

Just posted. Chris Wright Award. Honestly. He's been nominated all the least around. I'm telling you, we should have probably just left him on there, like left the first week and then just seeing if anybody could beat it all year. He's the only one that could top himself. Well, I guess we have percentages, right?

We could go back and look and see who had the highest percentage of the year. He's definitely winning. He's going to win. Yeah, we can pull it all up. He's definitely winning. All right, DBC picks. Connor, you get to pick with us now this year. How does this work?

Who won? So you won, Freddie. Congratulations. Someone finally beat me. So we pick So the guests get to pick We all get to pick Everybody one time

Until the playoffs and a reset So you can only use each driver one time So whoever You can't use any of these guests guys Already the three Blaney Truex And so Connor Who who picked Connor Noah?

Noah yeah Yeah You let Noah who You let Noah down last week Gregson he was on last week He picked you to win this week Oh damn And you really

Yeah I did Dead last He was Connor heard that What happened was Connor heard that He had gotten picked, and he threw the whole race, so he gets to pick first. He picks us. He knew.

He picked first today? Well, because whoever finishes last, it goes first the next week. So I'm saying, I think you heard that, no, I picked you. And you're like, you know what? I know I'm going there Monday. I really want to have first pick. I'm going to harpoon myself into Suarez here and see how hard I get this wall. All right.

I'll take Joey. Logano? Where the hell are we going? Phoenix. Yeah, he's pretty solid there. He's decent. I'm going to go with Wait, where to go? I just lost his name

Oh, you know what I'm going to go with William Byron this weekend William Byron. Thomas Blaney. You mother shit, why didn't I think of that? I will take, man, I know I want to take, but it's hard to win three in a row. He's been good there. I'll take Seabell. Let's go

for it. Three in a row. Hopefully get me two in a row. Damn, you're going three in a row for Seabell? Yeah, why not? Wow. It's a bold production. impressive. See it. Old prediction. Head in the Phoenix this week, you have not raced.

Have you raced here? I ran the continuity race there last year. Oh, did you? Finished about five. Yeah, I finished fourth. Where you been? I wasn't there. Oh, that's right.

Wait. You went somewhere. That was the week after. Sunday, I think I was Saturday I was at the dirt track. Oh, no, Saturday I was at the North South shootout. Oh, yeah. But yeah, so has preparations, preparations looking for Phoenix this week. About a sim time?

Yeah, we've done a little bit, not a ton. All of the junior motorsports guys, we're all showing up pretty similar to how we were last year. Obviously, Justin won the race. And, you know, I ran top five, and I think all our cars were really solid. So, yeah, going back there with similar stuff. Hopefully it's similar as it was last year and we'll be good, but you never know. Yeah, for sure. Obviously, winning the race this week takes a little bit of weight off your shoulders,

playoff-wise. How much of a relief is that, knowing now you're kind of playing with house money, you can chase some wins and bank some playoff points for the rest of the year? Yeah, no, I mean, we're going to be aggressive with getting playoff points and doing whatever we can to win stages. And, you know, that's definitely going to be on our mind for the rest of the year. season. Now we don't have to worry about, you know, stage points and, and, you know, it's good to be good in the regular season, but, you know, it's more important to get playoff points at this

point. I was, there was one more thing I was really proud of you for this weekend because I was driving back to the hotel Saturday after the race. And I was like, man, it would be really funny if Connor got out and, like, laid down and went to sleep or something on the car. And then I got back to the hotel and I saw you did the hands in sleeping on your hand. So I was, how was that? Was that something you had in mind before? Yeah, I actually thought about it. Like, when you're leading a race, it's bad. I might be the only one that does it.

But when I'm leading a race and, like, I feel like I'm going to win, I start thinking about how I'm going to celebrate. So when you start thinking about that, you're like, I can't lose this race now. So, yeah. There's a lot of videos out there. Guys, you know, arm out the window or something. They were, like, getting passed right before the line on them. Yeah.

No, if you were in the lap before. Yeah. No, I had that one in mind. And obviously, Jesse and I mess with each other probably more than we should. but it's all fun in games. Yeah. Well, we appreciate you stopping by. Tommy, what's preparations?

You got just one car again this week? Yeah, one car with Cody and trucks leave tomorrow afternoon. Yeah, it's a quick turnaround for all of us. And then the truck leaves, again, another truck leaves for Vegas to week after. You know, a Tuesday to week after. So we've got to cram a lot of work in here this week, getting ready for the West Coast swing. Kids are racing in Anderson. South Carolina, Anderson Speedway, and the Smart Tour Saturday, so it'll be fun.

Cars Tour? Unlike you guys, I've got like two weeks off. So we are just... Did we shout out Connor Hall? Yeah, no, we did not. We did not. Connor Hall. Yeah, our late model...

We tore up some shit at the beginning of the late Monastert race. Oh, man, there was a kid that could have made his way to the shit show. Bryce Afflegate? Is that his name? The 47? Straight up. I mean, he'd come in there. He does what we were talking about, really.

It was pretty late. I felt bad for who was at Diaz at Spun and he was just sitting there innocent bystander he ran in the back of Brandon Pierce and then just tore the nose off of Diaz's car so that's unfortunate so we're so no two race two weeks off

we go to Wake County next in Raleigh Wake County that's usually It's always fun and we plate model stocks only though so I mean we can't fit that many trailers in there anyways but should be good Well that's good We will talk to you guys next week. We'll see you in Phoenix again, of course, saw a bunch of BBC fans out in the

grandstands of Cota. It's always fun to spot in the grandstands because you get a bunch of people coming up. I don't know who. Nick Payne, the president of Nick Payne fan club was down about five rows in front of us, just bringing him waters every day. Apparently, this guy and his son they just kept running up and bringing Nick water. I was like, could you ask him to get me water? How many spotters did you have? I had me and two others. We had a guy in turn one, which was technically the primary stand. But all you can really see in turn one is turn one. You know, maybe down the hill in a little bit.

Maybe if you try, if you wanted to spot the S as you could, but it's a little bit harder. It's a lot easier to spot. You can from turn 12, you can really see basically a lot. You can see entry to one. You can't see the top of one where it kind of flattens out. But you can see down the hill, basically all the S is 6A, 6B, 6B, 6Z. And then the whole stadium section.

And then when they come out of the table section, stadium section to the carousel, you lose them. So we had a guy over in 19 just to call that little area. So there was three. You did not have, oh. Yeah, I didn't have one in 19 where I wrecked. That makes a lot of sense. You could blame your spotter.

So it was almost. I was a lot of blame. Three times 37. So it was. 37. Oh, cars. Yeah. Minus one.

So it was over 100 and over 100 spotters. Yeah. It's a lot. There's a lot. Oh, my Lord. That's what you always say. I didn't say it. You said it.

You said it. say that. So, if anybody would like to be a new host of DBC, let us know, drop by the... Cut me loose. Cut me free. She finally got a title now. Drop us a line of the DM. You can email me your resumes. I will pass him along. Finally has a title. Now she's running a trap. I haven't stopped running a trap. I do have to give a shout out to the Calhoun family. They're big DBC fans. They swung by old big owls and we're hanging out with Kyle the other day. So they're from Myrtle Beach and they came into town. So,

places on fire right now, right? Or something. Oh, I thought you talked about Big Alas. You almost fucking ruined my own. We got to know where you're going from here. I don't want to lunch. You almost ruin my day. Freddie, where are you?

Lunch. Okay. Yeah. That would be devastating. Oh, man. Tommy, you can't do that shit at the end of the shows. But all right. Connor, thank you for stopping by.

We'll have to get you and Jesse back in here one day. Maybe I'm sure Tommy's going to have to miss a week at some point this year to go racing. So we'll try to get. that lined up and get the two of you idiots. You know, talk some shit. But appreciate you stopping by. Good luck the rest of the year. Win that Exfinity championship.

How many, are you running, have you announced more cup races or do you don't know? Nothing announced. Okay. So hopefully there'll be some more cup races this year in the future. And then, well, I mean, we know there's going to be a lot. Wait, are you going on vacation with the kids in a couple weeks? Are you part of that group?

No. Oh, okay. Way to go, Tom. Now he feels left out. Yeah. Come on. No, I think it's Jack in his college. Oh, yeah.

He told me about it. It's not you guys. Probably for the best. College kids, yeah. Probably for the best. It's 15 of them going. I know. Beth is the only adult going to chaperone.

Wait, Beth is the chaperone? Yeah. Okay. I can't. I'm like, I don't know. I don't know who would be worse at chaperone. You or Beth.

Like, I don't know. The two of you can I? Never mind. We won't get in. All right. Everybody appreciate it. Thanks for listening. We'll be back next week.

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