Door Bumper Clear - 39 - Sub Spotters and Bologna Burgers

Episode Date: October 25, 2016

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You win. Do you want inside information? You will not be able to repeat it to your kids, but you will learn and you will laugh. Door bumper clear is on. Hey, everybody. Welcome to Door Bumper Clear, a podcast with the best. spotters on the planet in the NASCAR industry. This is KB. And thank you to one main financial for sponsoring this podcast every week. And we're here in the Exalta Studios. And I am with our co-hosts.

Brett Griffin, spotter for Clint Boyer, Elliot Sadler. What a wonderful opening you just pulled off. Was that good? You sounded great. Thanks. Yeah, you could do that 1-900 stuff if this ever doesn't work out. I actually already do it. It's how I'm supplementing my salary. That's how you train yourself. We got a super sub in the house today. Yeah, hi. I'm Kevin Hamlin. It's spot for Casey Kane. I am basically everybody's sub. It's basically how you're everybody's b-bred. Yeah. Like 15 minutes ago I was at the office

getting ready to start my Monday and I get a text. Hey, can you stop by? T.J. can't make it? Yeah. Here you are. Yeah, I'm just, I'm like the Vinnie testiverty of Nass call. You know he was colorblind? What? Yeah, that explains all those interceptions I got through.

Because he left Miami, pretty good college quarterback, gets to the NFL and just sucks. I don't know if he's Is that a new revelation that he was colorblind? Or is this something people... I think I saw it on Facebook.

It must be true. It's got to be true. So Kristen, what did you do all weekend? You were off? I was off. I went to a cousin's wedding in upstate New York. It was 45 degrees in pouring

and I love that weather, so it was good. Yeah. Josh, what did you do? I just hung out. No real big stuff. Go to Saeeds? No, I didn't go to Saeeds. Josh's favorite bar.

No. It's not my favorite bar, but I did do some drinking. Yeah, yeah, that's good. I don't tell Alabama game. That was awesome. Did you? 101,000 people. Holy crap.

They squeaked out the wind and it's staying in them. Dang. So it's fun. That's a cool place. Not as fun as Columbia, South Carolina. Not as fun as Knoxville, Tennessee. Knoxville is beautiful. Not as fun as Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania.

Knoxville is beautiful. Columbia is more fun. What did you do, Hamlin? Truck race? Nope, got fired from that deal, so I did not do a truck. You were doing who? Nobody. But who were you doing?

Oh, Ben Rhodes. Ben Rhodes. Yeah. Is he the guy that calls the big wreck this weekend? One of them. It wasn't his fault. He took out Cole, the double zero. One of a truck.

Wasn't his fault. So you just chilled this weekend? Yeah, I was just going to hang out and watch the race. And then T.J. said, hey, can you spot the 19? Joey's going to be late. He thought the race was at three. So the race is in like 50 minutes, and Joey's like 45 minutes away, leaving the hotel. You are a super sub.

Yeah. So I'm like, where were you at? Standing on top of the roof, like, I didn't, all my radio stuff was at the hotel. Like, I didn't have anything. TJ's like, Joey might make it, but can you be on standby? I'm like, are you serious? So Joey ended up making it. You know, we all have that nightmare that we're at the hotel or in the infield.

Yeah. So Joey makes it. Wait, you didn't have any radios, though. What'd you use? Well, Austin, Dario brought up all his stuff. And he was going to, I was just going to borrow his stuff until Joey showed up. And then... So wait a minute.

You're there as a fan. You're hanging out. You're just going to watch the race. Yeah. And then you get a call of, hey, joy, he's not going to make it. We might need you to do it. Yeah. Wow.

And then, wait, this... This has never happened. No, listen. And I wish I could make this up. So I'm just standing up there watching, watching what's going on. Tyler Green hollers at me. Hamlin, yeah. You do this pit stop for me?

My stomach's tore up. Like, are you serious? So I do pit... pit road for the 24 at Grant Enfinger when he's leading. Yeah. Come in first. We leave like seventh. I'm doing pit road.

So Tyler's got a shit and you got a spot. Yeah. So I do. So Tyler's like Kevin Ham's going to get you. This is unreal. I get him on pit road. He does a pit stop. Tyler comes out after the pit stop and goes and wins the race.

He wins the race. I text him. I said, hey man, you get me victory lane hat. I mean, you're a winning spotter. Yeah. Finally. You contributed. That's what you.

That is funny. I got a weird career of... You really do. Whatever. This pillow is really awkward. Yeah. But you should feel good because everyone now, you're the go-to guy. Basically, yeah.

If you want a mediocre substitute for anything in your life, just text you. Just let me know. Yeah. That's amazing. Awesome. We got a lot to talk about. We do.

So Daga, Joey wins. Joey Lugano. After dragging a jack around for a while. How did that not come out? I don't know. We were behind them. Yeah. I said, duck.

Duck. Just coming through the window. Yeah. Yeah, duck. You got a Hans, six-point harness. Just duck. I don't know, man. Talladega, for me, it lacked a little bit of drama.

I certainly thought it was going to be wilder than what it was. I just feel like some of the forge were dominant. I mean, when you've got Brian Scott capable of running second, here's your sign that they've got some sort of an advantage. But the pack itself was just a gridlock. There was no big one. No. I mean, when you got in the pack, you just couldn't move. I mean, I like to see a lot of lead changes with a lot of guys.

And I feel like when you're pushing momentum and lines are working well and guys are working well together, they can make things happen. But it really seemed like whoever got out front just played the sort of right and left game and keep everybody behind them. Yeah, the two is really good at that. Yeah, I think he had nitrous. The two and Dale, Jr, about the best at working in the area. like that and they get out front, it's just too hard to pass them. Yeah. Yeah, we definitely saw that Dale Jr.

is one of the best drafters with him not being in the race. Because I think a lot of us think, man, that car has something special. The 88? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, even when he drove the 8, it was like, man, that car. And I think now with Dale not being in the race, we say Dale Jr. is something special because that car never led.

It came out of a pit stop sequence and ended up fourth. Other than that, I mean, this guy ran 10th to 15th. all day. So Bowman certainly is No Dale Jr. when it comes to play. Right. But very few are, you know. How'd Clint Fair? We ended up 18th. The bottom line on restarts was just terrible. And we got the bottom twice there at the end. So it went from seventh to 18th after two restarts. You got a little TV time yesterday. Oh, that ain't good. I mean, really, they were showing Joey Meyer, but you were standing next to him.

Joey made the race on time for the cup race? Yeah. Yeah. I'm excited. Yeah, we've been standing beside of each other. and ironically between Saturday races and Sunday races, Elliot on Saturday, and obviously he spots for Brad on Sunday. We won a lot of races in that little spot over the last few years. So I think he had yesterday pretty much locked up, just got debris on the grill, waited too late to get it off and blew her up. This isn't on the spot on spot off, but what was with all the engine trouble? So Truex, he got the pole, right?

And then he finished last? Yeah, he blew up, you know? That place is hard on motors running wide open all day. Brad actually got trash on the grill, so he overheated, blew him up. Gotcha. And when that happens, you know you have trash on the grill because your temp starts skyrocketing. You're screaming, look at my grill.

We're looking at the grill. Yes, you have trash. Well, if you don't make a move, which basically for him, he's got to relinquish the lead. Well, he didn't. And by the time they orchestrated the deal, he let Blaney go around him to get the trash off. It was too late. Two laps later, he c-oed it.

So let's go in a spot-on, spot off. Y'all ready? Yeah. Kevin, you're first? Okay. Spot on, spot off. No big one at Talladega. Why do you got to make the sub-guide that start?

Did you wake up already? 20 minutes ago, I was drinking a r- Yeah. Just get on it? I don't know. I mean, you want Talladega to be a good race, right? I mean, I guess you don't want to say spot off because there's no big one because you don't want to see all these cars tore up.

I mean, as somebody in the industry. I was very surprised coming to the checker that they didn't. didn't wad them all up. Yeah. Very surprised. Yeah. I'll go spot on with a big one. I don't go, I don't ever go to the race track to see a wreck, you know, and I think when

we went away from tandem, we came back to the pack just to get the freaking wreck back. And I think a real race fan wants to see a race and not a wreck, you know? You think? There was a big one in the truck race. If you wanted the big one, just watch that. Big ones, there was like nine trucks running at the end of that thing. Yeah. I mean, we had a couple wrecks.

We Biffel had a wreck. Casey had a wreck. What happened in case he's right? I don't know. We were middle three just cruising and it came around. He thought maybe the left rear went down because it just came around on them like that. Yeah. Man.

Spot on, spot off. Harvick punches Kurt. Spot on for the intensity. But spot off, these guys are teammates. Like, that's awkward. You're both advancing into the chase. You're in the elite eight, so to speak. And now you have created this drama within your team.

Like, you should be worried about. helping each other, not doing that. Yeah, that's kind of weird. Lunch time today, it'd be a little awkward. There's Tommy Ballin. What's he doing? Is he lost? Yeah.

He's looking good. Does he want to come be on the podcast? Yeah, we can ask him about his charter. I'm sure he hadn't heard that yet. What's up, TB? Spot on, spot off, Trucks Jr. And Brad blow up and their chase hopes and dreams. And spot off.

What a bad. bad way to go out. You know, Martin is certainly not locked in, but he's in a pretty good spot. Brad's got a win to get in, and that sucks for them guys. Yeah, it just shows how important that, you know, the chase is. There's two cars were dominant all year and then aren't in the final round. I mean, it's got to be tough for those guys this ball. Yeah, I picked Truex to win the championship. Josh picked Keselowski. They're both already out. Who'd you pick? Harvick. He's still in. Mm-hmm. Who TJ picked? Denny. He's still in.

Yeah. Yeah. Spot on, spot off. The 100% rule? You know, I never really understood why we came out with this years ago at Richmond to start with. I mean, these guys are going to give and take. The 100% rule, spot off, do away with it. I mean, clearly the Gibbs guys were not running 100%. Clearly, Kyle letting Eric Jones lead a lap a week ago at Kansas, he's not given 100%.

So why market this thing if you don't have a way to actually say, we don't think you're given 100%. Here's the penalty for it. If there's no penalty, what's the point of having a rule? Yeah, it's just too hard to police. Yeah. There's no way to actually, I think, police that deal. I mean, the Gibbs guys were doing what they had to do to get through that,

but you would think at one point, okay, everybody that were racing the two and the 78 or out, we might as well at least try and go race, and they still just kind of hung out in the back. And I didn't understand that given a situation that Denny was in. I mean, Denny really needed those three cars between him and the three car, you know, to help the point cushion. I mean, Denny wins a tiebreaker to get through. If the Gibbs guys got up there and raced, they would have been fast. they would have been up front.

You would have thought they'd go help their guy, but I don't know, that was weird. I didn't get it. Spot on, spot off, the rules package for the plate tracks. I mean, I think I could go either way. It kind of just depends on how the race ends. I mean, the Daytona races were pretty good. The spring race there was good.

This one ended kind of, you know, boring as far as a plate deal goes. You probably want to go back to the tandem racing since you were the man at it. You, I didn't have to work. Yeah, I'll go spot off. I think, you know, we're looking at some changes for next year, and we certainly need to look at changes for the plate stuff too. We need these guys to have more motor and have the ability to push. And right now, like I said, it's just a gridlock.

Spot on, spot off, standing ovation on lap 14. For sure, spot on. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, I'm not going to lie to you. I'm standing there. I'm spotting. And all of a sudden, everybody stands up. And I'm like, uh-oh.

What do they see that I don't see? And I almost have a panic attack. I'm like, oh, shit. I thought Dale Jr. took the lead, and I forgot he wasn't in the race. I mean, it literally scared me. I'm like, what are they seeing? What are 100,000 people see something I don't? So it freaked me out a little bit, but it was cool.

Yeah, it was. Was that a premeditated thing? Yeah, they were talking about it leading up to it, and it was on the big screen and stuff. I didn't hear it. I didn't hear him talk about it. I didn't. We were in the back with the Gibbs guys at that point, so I wouldn't do it a whole lot. You were chilling.

He was being the mediocre spotter. I think Tony just kind of chilled all day. He did. I asked Bob, I'm like, Bob, you're going to get up there? He's like, no, we're good. I mean, I think he's just like, nah, I ain't getting in this deal. I'm out. So it's cool.

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Dirty Moor Radio gives Junior Nation its newest and most versatile way yet to plug directly into the world of Earnhardt, anytime, anywhere. Hey, we're back, and we're going to go into Fast Lane, and I'm going to give some topics to both Kevin and Brett, and each of them gets 30 seconds, and then the person who went first gets time for a rebuttal, which is T.J.'s favorite word. All right, Brett, you're going first. You ready? Okay. Of the eight drivers that have advanced in the chase,

who do you think will take home the cup this year? That's a tough one. The 50% rule says it's going to be a Toyota because Gibbs has all their cars in it. You've got to think they're going to work well together. There's so many guys so fast. I'm going to go with Matt Kenseth. I think he's racing his ass off right now.

I say he's got to beat. I don't think you can rule out some of the other guys. Obviously, they've been good all year. Jimmy will be tough. Those guys just always seem to dig deep and run well at the end. Obviously, they've done it many times in the past. I think the 18 will end up being tough, too. Yeah.

You've got the 18, the 4, the 11 who's not won it. You've obviously got Matt who has one. I mean, you've got a lot of fast cars in this thing. I don't think anybody is there that you can look at and say, got no chance. I think all eight of these guys have a chance. Harvick. Harvick is going to be tough. Him and Jimmy. Jimmy, like Kevin said, I mean, when it's time to go, Jimmy goes. Cup goes from the longest track at Daga to the smallest track, Martinsville. As a spotter, what is the easier track to spot at? Kevin?

Martinsville. Everything happens a little slower. You're right on top of everything. You can see everything. Talladega, the angles are tough when they're coming out of four, coming into the tri-oval. They're a long ways away from you getting into three, so Martin'sville's a lot easier to spot. Martin'sville is definitely easier. It is, however, though, one of the busier tracks for us. When you look at the plate tracks, you look at Bristol Martinsville, that's our four busiest races of the year. So even though it's easier, it's still busy, still fun.

You have anything to add to that? Nope. Super sub. Hey, my stomach hurts. I'll be right back. Cover me. Martinsville was the last race that Jeff Gordon won in the Cup series. He will be behind the wheel of the 88 this weekend.

you think he has a shot to go to victory lane again, Brett? You know, Jeff Gordon certainly was capable of winning at Martinsville, but he set out. He's been out of the race car, and it seems like when he's come back this year, he struggled to get acclimated for whatever reason. I don't know if it's because it's not the crew chief he worked with last year with Allen or what's different, but he's not come back and set the world on fire when he's in that seat. Yeah, I think if he had been running a little more, absolutely. You know, he's really good at that track, and he's proven it for a long time.

I think he could still be in contention, but I think if he would have run a little bit more the last few weeks, that percentage would have, you know, at least for me, it would be quite a bit higher. Yeah, I'd say no. I think the answer is just no. I think that these chase guys have so much on the line. Those eight guys will probably all finish top ten.

Is this a dumb question? So he's been out of the car for a while. Do they put him in a simulator leading up to any of this or no? No. No, he's Jeff Gordon. Yeah, he's Jeff Gordon. Okay. Those simulators are weird.

You know, like some of the guys go to the one at TRD, and they physically can't do them. It gives them motion sickness. Really? Yeah, because you're sitting in the simulator, and it's telling you your brain that you're moving where your body's not moving and some guys struggle with it. I mean, these are professional race car drivers that struggle with it.

I know Bowman's in them, like three times a week for Hendrick, right? Yeah. Eight hours in the black box. Well, it's the new way of testing. You know, what people don't realize is we have a, a no testing rule. But what these engineers do is they rent time on these simulators and they go run setups on these simulators and the driver like an Alex Bowman, a guy that's not running full time and has some downtime, they'll go drive. But a full-time cup driver doesn't want to go sit in a

simulator all week. He drives a real race car for a living all the time. So their lifestyle, they don't want to go sit in a simulator. But it's supposedly really cool. I've only seen a video one. Have you been the one? No. But I would like to say I think it's cool that Alex Bowman is a cup driver and has a day job. Yeah. That's awesome. Yeah. Blue collar, Alex Bowler. Martinswell is not only known for their great short track racing, they are also known for their hot dogs.

How many Martinsville hot dogs have you consumed in one day? About half, half a one. Half a hot dog. Pass. I call them gut grenades. And they're really a funky pink. I don't know. I'd rather eat a taco over a hot dog.

Sometimes they'll show up on our hollers at other. racetracks. Do you say holla? Hala. I mean, the Marginville hot dogs famous. It gets a lot of pub, but then they give you issues. The fact that they sell them in the garage. Don't let Tyler Green have a hot dog this weekend.

Yeah, they sell them right there in a garage. My favorite food is to go to South Boston and get a baloney burger. Ew. Oh, it's National Bologna Day. Today? Yeah. Woody and Wilcox said it. Have you ever had a fried bologna burger?

No. No? Would you eat one? No. I've had a sandwich. What's the difference with a sandwich and a burger? A burger is it's on a hamburger bun. So it's still a sandwich.

It's called a baloney burger. So you got to take peppers and onions and you saute them in butter, right? And you cook them, and you get them good and soft, and then you take them out. And then you fry your baloney. Well, if you don't cut slits in your baloney, it'll, like, blow up in the middle, like a bubble. So you got to cut little slits. And then you fry each side. Like regular baloney?

Yeah. Like Oscar Mar. Yeah. And then you take it off. And you put a bunch of Hellman's mayonnaise, and you put a bunch of cheese. I see what you did there. Some mustard, if you like mustard, and then your peppers and onions is good. It sounds disgusting.

Oh, it's awesome. I've had just the fried bologna. Like, I didn't do all that other. And it was good. It's got to be thick bologna. I like ring bologna. Yeah. Like, I'm Pennsylvania Dutch, so it's like, I don't know.

What are you talking about? Ring bologna. I've never even heard of it. It looks like a sausage, but it's bologna. in sausage form when you cut like slices. They call up home they call it like the summer sampler or something. You get like cheese and bologna and mustard and that's what you're after-town. Summer sausage.

We're going to get Elliot and Will to cook you a bologna burger at Texas. Weal. We'll. You got to have a bologna burger one time. I just, okay, but I can't have the bread. Why? Because the gluten tank. How many times when they ended up in in care?

Like not even a bite? No, my throat closes up and I can't breathe. Hamlin will sub for you. Can you give a garage tour for me? Do they make gluten-free hamburger buns? Yes, they do. So we need to buy those. Do they taste terrible?

They're hard. They jack up the top of your mouth. Yeah. There's also that wheat thing that you're not very good with. All right. The off-the-wall topic, the World Series begins tomorrow night between the Indians and the Cubs. Who is your pick to win the series? Brett.

I thought the Cubs got beat by the Dodgers. No? Oh, you didn't see all those bandwagon Cubs fans come out? I thought it was like two to nothing or how many games do they play? Five, best of five? I thought it was over. Obviously, the Cubs came back in one. Well, they had to win three in a row.

Where have you been? In Alabama. They lit Chicago on fire. They did? Wrigleyville went nuts. No, they just were like that. That's cool, man. I hope the Cubs win.

You know, but Cleveland, the mistake by the lake, they've been struggling for ever. Why are you alienating our Ohio listeners? They've been struggling forever. sports and now it's like LeBron's back. That's the last time they were in the whole series. So this is a big deal, man. Go Cleveland. The Brown still suck, but.

I think it be cool with the Cubs one. But I'm more excited for the stewards of the game, you ate honeybees. My daughter Grace's playoff start tonight. Yeah. One and done, they better win. The honeybees? That's so cute.

I don't know. They can't pick a name. That's all they really care about. It's eight-year-olds. It's pandemonium. Is it? Yeah, I stand on first base. They're like out in the outfield, like pick and fly.

And stuff. Yeah. Does she run like you run? Or does she have a... She got wheels? I'm fast, man. I'm just old now. Your technique is what I'm speaking to.

Because it's hard to run with seven radios on up there when you're moving around. When Hamlet starts running, I just start laughing. Why are you running up there? Because I'm working. He was running everywhere yesterday. I mean, he's all over that spotter stand. He was coordinating pit stops. Do you have a Fitbit?

You're trying to get your steps in? That's what it looks like. Oh, God. All right. So we're going to go into AskDBC, hashtag Asked where producer Josh has chosen a few questions from our Twitter feed. At Jen Olk asked, how stressful is it when things get crazy on the track? Y'all stay so calm.

It's very stressful. I have a Garmin watch that has a heart rate monitor built into it. My resting heart rate is 72-ish beats a minute. And after one of the wrecks yesterday, I looked at my heart rate and it got up to 102. to this point of this question, if we get excited, the driver's going to get excited, and if he makes a mistake, it can be big. So it's important for us to try to be calm. I mean, we all have to be a lot of things.

Sometimes informative, sometimes entertaining, sometimes you've got to get their head back in the game. I mean, you can play cheerleader, Dr. Phil, and Spotter all in 30 seconds, you know, with these guys. But if our voice gets raised, man, they're going to panic. I mean, Hamlin's been on the other end of it. He's been in the car and heard the Spotter freak out. So I think he probably realizes how he's got to stay chill. Yeah. It's usually because I was backing the thing into the fence when I was driving it.

You're all right in there? Yeah. I don't know. It's just part of the deal. You get used to it, you know. I think over the time you learned to do that, like at first, when I first started doing it, I probably wasn't very calm. Yeah.

But, and I think depending on whoever you're spotting for, too, you kind of know if they like to fight a little bit or if they like somebody to kind of stay chill. just things you pick up as you. What's Casey like? It's chill. It's pretty quiet. He's not chatty? No, not unless he's mad.

He's not chatty in real life, though. Yeah, I was about to say. He's pretty quiet. He's a quiet dude. Yeah. I think it was Kansas. I've never heard you get super riled up ever because you're pretty calm. You're like a therapist up there.

Yeah. But where were we? Stay with me, man. Stay with me. He talked me off the ledge. Yeah. I think we got a bad lane on a restart. We were behind an idiot or something, and I lost it from the bottom.

We got the bottom, and you didn't want the bottom. You wanted the top. Yeah. See, on Channel 2, I'm more animated than I am on Channel 1 because Channel 2, like, I can scream and holler and nobody cares, you know, but you don't want to rile up the driver. Yeah. Yeah, it's good he taught me off that ledge. It was funny. Yeah.

At I have something K. Court. Court. Court lick. Court lick. Uh-huh. Cotter. The R is after the team.

Oh. Well, who names that? If you could do it all over again, would you pick a new career? Why, why not? Hamlin, talk to us. Hamlin has like nine careers going on at one time. I do. It's very, you know, I did that on purpose.

That way, if I suck at one, they had a hard time at firing me to all of them. Yeah. No, I mean, this is what I set out to do. I guess the only thing is, you know, I wish that, you know, being a driver would have worked out better, but I'm a better spotter than I am a driver at times. At times. The only part I don't like about the career is travel. stinks it's hard being gone Thursday through Sunday so much that's absolutely the worst part yeah your

wife's probably glad though dude in like like third week of off season she's like Mandy's like you got to go yeah it's Thursday you're totally screwing up Archie here it's Thursday a four go right around for three days and they come back home yeah I mean look we all have wonderful jobs you know would we pick a new career I really wanted to be a backup dancer for Janet Jackson and I was on pace to do that and then I got to college and I stopped dancing, you know, professionally. This comes up every podcast. Somehow Janet Jackson enters this podcast. It's because she's hot.

And then I ended up, you know, doing PR for Elliott back in the day. And, man, the main reason I say I 100% wouldn't want to do anything else is because of the friends and the relationships I've made since I've been here. I mean, hell, I wouldn't know Hamlin if I didn't do this. I wouldn't know you, Josh. I mean, you make so many friends. Elliot's like a brother to me. And I told somebody yesterday, you know, I've been very fortunate because everybody I've spotted for

I had a personal relationship with before I started spotting for them. So it makes it easier to do your job. So just from that standpoint, man, now, I definitely would do this again. I'd like to make about triple the money I'm making. Yeah, for sure. Yeah. Can we work on that? TJ makes like 2,500 a podcast.

It doesn't surprise me and he'll scream how broke he is. So you got a much extra-critical. Christmas money coming your way. Cool. Yeah. We'll do it in cash. Well, now my wife knows, so I can't spend it, so thanks. At TLSTAR 2014, do spotters have any requirements, responsibilities put on them by sponsors?

Yeah. I mean, we certainly have to carry ourselves. I mean, we're not a brand ambassador to the extent that the driver is, but we have an affiliation with all these guys. You know, it's corporate America playing. You know, we'll do pit tours for them from time to time. We'll do appearances in the suite for them from time to time. You know, I mean, we've got sponsors a part of this show. So I think we certainly have that in the back of our minds.

Sure. And TJ's like, you know, the corporate sponsor. I got a sprint appearance. I got to do this. I got to do that. So there is some stuff. But yeah, you got a T-shirt on or a billboard shirt with your last name across it. Yeah.

On Sundays. So, you know. Your shirts have your names on them? Mine do. And everybody asks, hey, how's Denny running? I'm like, you see the Hendrick stuff. I have no clue. this is hamlin across the back but um yeah sure i mean we're brett hit it spot on there when we

first got on twitter everybody would say how do you get to become a spotter how do you get in a race in it every one of them that would tweet me i would tweet hamlin to go ask ask hamlin he knows how he loved it yeah we got that a lot i started telling him it was part of my probation and people thought it's true at cornelius v star s your thoughts on late october and no cup sponsor announced concern or not yet. Man, this is a... Listen, I'm ordering fire suits. And our fire suits, they take

four to six weeks to make. And I know that's the smallest thing that anyone's concerned about, but we don't have a sponsor to put on a title. We don't have a patch. Uh-uh. Yeah. We'll make a sticker. You know, is there calls for concern? Here's the thing. I just want to put this in a

perspective. It seems like to me, NASCAR is faced with the same challenge that the teams face on a daily basis, which is selling our product. and our service to corporate America. And I think they've never really struggled with that. And I think in today's world, social media, and a lot of things have changed the platform and the assets and ultimately the value.

And so they're having to take their sponsorship to the marketplace. And I think they're finding out what the teams have known for the last decade is sometimes it's not easy. You know, we know there are some companies in play. They can be very selective on ultimately who they pick. But the fact that it is October and we don't have one announced, I think, It says a lot about just the market in general for sponsorship. Your watch is still on central time, bro.

I know. I got to set my GPS. I was just looking at. I'm like, what the hell? Yeah, I got to show you do it. Yeah, what you said is good. He's such a great new addiction to this podcast. I mean, I'm not as controversial as the man that sits here normally and this guy.

Here's the thing that nobody really ever says. Okay, when you have a brand like Winston, okay, and you have a brand like Sprint, they do NASCAR's job for them. They take this series and this sport to the marketplace. They put it in every sprint store. They put it on billboards. They put it in commercials. So the sponsor does NASCAR's job for them.

NASCAR doesn't have to spend a lot of money on branding, on advertising, on marketing, because these guys are doing that for them. So they have to be really selective too. They can't pick the wrong one because if it doesn't get taken to the marketplace, our ratings go down, our attendance goes down. A lot of things change. So it's important that they get the right partner for all of us. It has to be, you know, ultimate consumer-driven brand for us all to really prosper.

Because just think the flip side of that is, you know, you're Casey Kane. Well, Sprint uses you to put you in their commercials, so Farmers Insurance and all your sponsors get love, you know, more value. So it's important we get the right one for sure. At Jojo 6040S, will dig his date switch in 2017 change? What? Oh, well, yeah, right. How Chase teams race it. That was it.

What's the date change? They're flopping. They're switching it with them. Yeah, it's not an elimination race. So if it's not elimination race, yeah. You won't see the Gibbs cars hanging out in the back. I don't think you'll see everybody racing. Yeah.

It's almost like, based on what Hamlet just said, it's almost like it needs to be first. Yeah. To where you got to go because you can't afford not to go. Yeah. So, yeah, it's going to, I mean, it's going to change it for sure, no doubt. So, Brett, you won. You won the inaugural door bumper clear pickum championship.

TJ's not even here for me to make fun of him. Do you get a trophy? So here's what happened. We started. I think it's a belt buckle. Yeah, we started this thing where we were just going to pick who wins the race, right? Basically, you pick who you think's going to win. I'll pick who I think's going to win.

So TJ gets way behind. Did he change your rules? No, I changed them for him because he started whining. Because he was sucking so bad. He was down like eight. races. Yeah. So we said, all right, look, we're going to start over. You get to pick one driver every week, as do I, but we can never pick them again. And we just have to pick who we think is going to beat the other one, basically a matchup. So my whole strategy was, I'm going to get a big

lead to where you can't catch me. Well, he kept picking crappy drivers, and I just kept getting a bigger lead. And so it's over. I've won with four races remaining. I think it's cool. We can give TJ a hard time, and he's not here to defend himself. I think that's the best way to do it. Favorite part. Yeah. He's going to be so mad next week. He is going to be mad next week. He'll be back, though.

All right. Do you, gents, have anything that you want to ranch? I saw something last night. Oh, boy. Is it political or religious in any banner? No. So the media, our motorsports media is a lot different than other media because they travel with us everywhere.

They're on our planes. You know, we see them at the track. We see them in the media center. And I just saw an article that said, Harvick, who finished seventh, went over to Bush's car afterward for a brief conversation. No. No, no, no, no. That's not what happened.

Kurt Bush body slammed Harvick going down the backstretch. He slams into his car. Okay. Harvick gets mad. Harvick gets out of his car. He goes to Bush's car. They didn't have a conversation. Like, these people need to write what really happened. But see, what they're afraid of is if they say what really happened, well,

they're afraid that Harvick won't give him an interview or Bush won't give him an interview. Like our media is in a really tough spot to do their job. I mean, this is one of the hardest working journalists in the sport, and he's afraid to say what really happened because he don't want to be blackpalled. Everyone saw what happened on TV. It's not like it's some secret that happened in a NASCAR Spring Cup hauler where someone got their hand slapped and no one wants to talk about it. That's my point is our media is so entrenched with relationships within the sport.

Sometimes it's hard for them to do their job. Oh, like personal relationships too. Yeah. Well, I mean, here's the thing. If they say something bad about Casey Kane, the next week they call them and they say, hey, Casey, we want you to do an interview. He's going to say, no, I ain't doing it. So our media is in a lot different spot.

When you watch football and you see Mike Ditka and all those guys in the studio, they don't see these people every week. They can say whatever they want to say. I think that's a weird spot to be in the job. I mean, try to do your job, but then try to worry about whose feelings you're going to hurt. That's what I do every day. Yeah. Sure.

Check your Twitter. I'd be really good at that. Or the group text. Maybe we should be media people. We are technically. We're on a podcast. Is this media? Yeah.

Millions. Millions. Hey, I've had more people. FM morning talk shows. Worldwide. I've had more people the last two weeks coming up to me saying they listen to the show. That's cool. Yeah.

Yeah. Oh, I got to get your mom. I'm giving away a crew shirt. It's too bad I didn't bring it the day. You could have signed it to people who left us reviews on iTunes. Oh, yeah, there were a lot of people that were doing that. Yeah.

Can we talk about how my Eagles beat the Vikings yesterday? And the Vikings were undefeated. Yep. Wow. No more. Can we talk about the Seahawks kissing their sister last night? That terrible game? Six to six?

Yeah. Nobody won? No. How can nobody win? I don't know. It beat the crap out of each other for like three hours and it's like... Did you watch it? Yeah, I stayed up until midnight.

Thus why I'm on two cups of coffee, two of those. but you're not like high energy right now. I'm just, I'm barely functioning. Stop by KKR in about 20 minutes, and I might be drooling on myself at my desk. He's sleeping underneath his desk. So what do you got to do today at Casey Kane Racing? What's your Monday's like?

Got to update his website. Got to update KKR's website because they both won this weekend. Oh, cool. Awesome. Which one won? Both of them, Brad won on Friday. Darren won on Saturday. They ran out makeup, so that was good.

They, uh, such a, long season for them guys. They just got world finals this week. People don't realize that grind. It's nuts, man. When they leave like in May. Josh, it worked for them. Did you? I worked for the World Valance, yeah. Yeah. So I went to all 90, one year.

You went to every race, 90 of them. It was awful. The crew guys leave and don't come home. Did you get to come home some? I got to come home some, but I went one stretch. I went 60 days in a room. Came home for like three days and then went 30 days. Came home for

like two days. It is brutal. It is brutal. Yeah, these guys since, you know, KKR and Larson Marks are in North Carolina, most of the teams are in the area, so it's kind of centrally located. But I'm getting it wrong, but something like in May when they leave, the haulers don't make it back until September. Holy crap.

Yeah. So, and then the crew chiefs, well, you know, Kail's got a family, so he'll fly back and forth when he can. But the crew guys are younger guys, so they just kind of hang out with the truck and do their thing. It's a real tough deal of those guys. I mean, it's crazy because you'll, like you'll go to Seattle and race north of Seattle. I forgot what race.

Skagit. It's way north and in Elma's south. And then go all the way down to like Sacramento in a matter of 12 days. Yeah. Like 11 races and 12 days down the West Coast. Yeah, they were in Kansas on Friday and in Oklahoma on Saturday. Yeah. Oh, we get to go to Canada, too.

Canada. Brett loves Canada. I do love Canada. I maybe should be Canadian. Yeah, you have that. A. Accent. Yeah.

I think you like Montreal. I like Canada. Whistler is one of my favorite places in the world. God, it's fun. I was not a big fan of Canada. At least Montreal. Not even like old town. You probably didn't get time to do tourist stuff.

No, I didn't really get time to do touristy stuff. My brother lives in Ottawa. So, and it's beautiful up there. It's freezing as hell though. It is. It is. Like by now it's cold. June.

Yeah. It's pretty during the summer. We're off to Martinsville. Paperclip. How's Casey Kane run there? Good. We're usually pretty fast there. Yeah.

It's, uh, be interesting to see if that VHD stuff they put down does anything for the outside land or not because you always, you know, restarts the top lane getting into one after you get the green rolls pretty good. Yeah. You can kind of roll three and four on the top, but the next time you get the one, you better hope you're at the bottom. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah, you're screwed. Yeah. I don't know, man. Marksville's been kind of like the new Bristol, a lot of beating and banging and moving guys around and I don't know. There's a lot on the line for these eight teams. And, you know, you would say, well, everybody needs to take care of them

and race them respectively. It's their problem is the way I look at it. They've got to take care of themselves. You know, Casey Cain needs to go out and win a race. Clint Boyer needs to go out and win a race. But it's going to be an interesting week. You've got to qualify good there, man. Yeah.

There's nothing worse than starting like 30th at Martinsville. Yeah, the leaders are coming like 14 laps. As soon as you say green flag and as soon as they get single foul, he's a half straightaway back. and you're getting lapped, you know, and it just makes your whole day crazy. But it's fun. Pit road's fun there. Pit road's fun, yeah.

It's tight, man. That place is cool. We all grew up racing on short tracks, so what are y'all doing this weekend? You're off again? Yeah, I'm going to Oscar Blue is one of our sponsors. Sponsors at their Reeb Ranch in Burvard, North Carolina. They have the Piscuit Mountain Mountain Biking Festival. So we're going to go show some sponsor love this weekend.

What is a mountain biking festival? They do demo mountain biking, group rides. a lot of beer consumption. Have you ever gone mountain biking? No. It is the hardest thing. It's so difficult. So hard.

I went straight into a tree, hit my head on it, and it busted my glasses and broke him in my forehead. And I was like, done, that's why I only road cycle. I can't do it. You need coordination.

And like... Even riding... I tried to go cycling with Casey and trainer Ryan a couple years ago. Yeah. Right through here. He's grabbing... Hurt.

His legs for anyone who couldn't... And I got lost. I couldn't keep up. We were on What kind of bikes do you have? One that he's got in the shop. It's a row. I have no clue.

It's white, I think. And I have the little clip-in dudeads. So that if you stop, you got to twist your heel out to put your foot down. Or you just fall over. Or you just fall. And so we were on over there by Williamson, kind of.

That's where we were riding, kind of going down into the point. And it's four, it's two lanes each way. So I got, I was way behind him. I couldn't keep up with the draft. Man, I was Gibbs.

I couldn't keep up. You're on the road. Yeah, on the road. And so I kind of got an idea where they're at. And about 20 minutes later, here comes Ryan and Casey going back the other way. I'm like, son of a bit. So I had to turn around and catch up with them. They went like 15 miles.

I think I did three. And I'm like, never doing this again. Did y'all ever get off road? No, it was like cycle. Like, uh, I thought we were talking about mountain biking. We were, but I switched gears on you. Oh, you didn't tell me that. Yeah.

I kept hearing. He has no segue. No, man. We were talking about mountain biking. And he's talking about ride on the road. I'm like, hell I can do that. Well, Mount bikes will ride on a road, but... Well, no.

And riding a bike in general is completely overrated. Yeah. By the way, Williamson is completely flat. How could you not keep up with them? Have you ever seen... That's what I ride on. I ride on Williamson. He's a hundred and fifteen pounds.

That's a true statement. Maybe 109. Casey's in shape, too. He's half my size. How long has Ryan been training him? 10 years? Eight years? Yeah, probably made out 10, but a while.

So, Jimmy, Johnson got here and kind of changed the game. He kind of pulled a Ricky Carmichael on us, right? So he got into tip-top shape, and everybody's like, well, it makes him a better race car driver. So Jamie McMurray went out and got Ricky Carmichael's trainer, and he won some races at here. Daytona 500, brickyard, second in the coast, 600. So everybody was making moves to get trainers. Well, Casey was like, I'll just bring a trainer in-house. So he's an in-house for KKR, which is awesome for these guys, because all the employees get to use him, too. That's awesome.

Yeah. He's a good. guy too. He runs like six minute miles or something crazy. Yeah, Ryan's a big guy. So for him to be able to do that's nuts, you know, he's a safety in college football. Brett, you can come in and use the J-R-M gym. I'll train you. I can. You'll train me? Yeah. We'll start with five pound weights. We can start with more than five. All right, y'all. You say y'all. Thanks to, you got you guys. You guys. Use guys. I'd like to thank one mean again for sponsoring this podcast in the Exalted studio. for Hamlin for getting us out of a bind. Yeah, thanks.

I'm such a great sub. Super sub. Don't sound too enthusiastic about coming. I'd leave real quick. He needs more caffeine. Yeah. I'm good. Or a taser. Yeah. Now you're talking.

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